Fauci’s COVID Coverup + Trump & Xi Meeting | PBD #799

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana react to Trump’s meeting with Xi Jinping, explosive allegations surrounding Fauci and the CIA’s role in the COVID coverup narrative, and the arrests tied to alleged CCP espionage operations in the U. S. ------ 🧢 LIMITED EDITION FLB USA 250 HERITAGE WHITE SNAPBACK: https://bit.ly/4dPjWAP 🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 0:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 0:20Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I gotta tell you, if this continues to happen with Jake defending Vinnie every single frickin' time he falls off the wagon, I'm gonna have a problem here. Every single time I come in. It's like Jake's like, "It's okay, Vinnie's having a bad day, just give him a break." Every time I have to deal with this, "Vinnie, wake your ass up, Vinnie, let's go." My goodness, every time, Vinnie.

• 0:43Adam Sosnick?

  I'm so sorry we're late, guys.

• 0:44Patrick Bet-David?

  It's getting, it's getting old. You and Jake. Jake's like your agent defending you every single time, Jake. This is it.

• 0:50Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, so much pizza.

• 0:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sick of it.

• 0:52Adam Sosnick?

  We had pizza.

• 0:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, one, I have to deal with him, then I have to deal with having to repeat myself three times to Tom.

• 0:57Adam Sosnick?

  I'm so sorry.

• 0:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Adam Kent, "Stop doing podcasts with Dave Smith." It's like, every single time, I'm getting out there with, "These guys are becoming buddies, doing stuff."

• 1:06Adam Sosnick?

  Best friend.

• 1:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Talking about expertise in the comedy industry, but we're figuring this thing out, folks. As a bunch of amateurs, we're trying to see on what's going on here with stories.

• 1:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm sorry, Pat, did you say something?

• 1:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's right, I have to say three times, but we will figure this thing out, okay? Collectively, we're getting better. The survey's making everybody, God willing, get better, and if it doesn't, we'll, uh, we'll go back to selling gym memberships at Valley Toyota, and it's some local gym membership here. But anyways, let's go into some stories. Some crazy things happened. A bunch of, uh, important, powerful people went to China. I don't know if you heard or not. This guy who runs the, is the leader of the free world, they call him President Donald J. Trump, took a bunch of billionaires and successful folks to China to negotiate. There was a lot of back and forth that happened. Uh, Trump said this is the first time ever where a relationship has been this long, and then Rubio made comments about Taiwan. Taiwan was like the main topic. You know what China

• 2:00Patrick Bet-David?

  kept saying, Vinnie? Just to kind of give you an idea, it's like, "Well, you know, they're talking about, we'll send you 200 Boeing, uh, for the first time in 10 years." I think they did a contract to sell. China purchasing, did you just have a hiccup? I had a hiccup. Yeah. I've been, I've been. China purchasing. I had a lot of root beer last night. China purchased, potentially purchasing 200 Boeing aircrafts, but then at the same time, they're thinking about selling 75,000 chips to Alibaba, Tencent, Bydance, JD.com, Foxconn, Lenovo to China through Nvidia. And a lot of people are like, wait a minute, what are we talking about? Even there was a little bit of a bump on the stock market. I know you were watching it closely. Then on top of that, with Xi's warning multiple times about Taiwan topics.

• 2:44Patrick Bet-David?

  The Taiwan issue is the most significant concern in the China-US relations. If addressed properly, stability can adversely and mishandling, it could lead to clashes and conflict. By the way, again, China's red line. The Taiwan issue lies at the heart of China's fundamental interests. And Rubio turns around and says, well, too bad because the US policy towards Taiwan is unchanged. Period. Can you imagine this guy? It would be a terrible mistake for China to try to take Taiwan by force. And then Taiwan comes on and says, hey, with gratitude, we just want to say, we're expressing gratitude for Washington's long-term support and views, actions attributing to regional stability positively. So Taiwan's like, yeah, you guys backed us up. So anyways, there's a lot of stuff going there. Then out of all the stories, listen, all these things that's going on, you know what was Tom's top story?

• 3:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's top story that we lost Tom for about 17 minutes this morning is the playlist. And one of the songs on the playlist when the president arrived, they have this one song. Don't show it yet, Rob, because I know this is a big hit for Tom. You guys got to see what the song was and maybe Tom will have to perform it because of how a celeb, would it a celebratory? Celebratory. For him, it was impressive. So we'll let you know what that song is. Couple other stories. If Drake is making this song that's coming out, taking shots at LeBron. If you haven't read the lyrics, it's crazy. He calls out a bunch of different people. He gives compliments to KD and even a couple of other shots. He takes that folks.

• 4:10Patrick Bet-David?

  But one of them was specifically to LeBron and it's kind of weird because many years ago when LeBron came out, I think Drake's first song or one of his first songs was about LeBron. I think a lot of the lyrics, right, and we'll talk about that. Tom's got a, you know, he specializes in hip hop, so we'll go to him for his analysis. Thomas Massey, some interesting things going on with Thomas Massey, Humberto Salas, please talk about it, we will. Cuban Raul Castro indicted, and, you know, can you imagine Castro's brother, who for what he did in 96, Rob, is being claimed of the plane that was attacked, I think it was bringing humanitarian aid, and now we're going back, so it's very interesting what's going on with, the way they're sequencing on how to take over Cuba.

• 4:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And we'll watch that. Karen Bass, you know, if some of you guys know people who lose, you know, who have used meth and use meth regularly, you know, once you get there, it's very tough to get off. She comes out and says, these people who use meth don't have teeth. They can't eat, we have to get them teeth to be able to eat. That was one of her campaigns. You know Spencer Pratt's gonna jump on top of that one when you say something dumb like that, so we'll address that. And then aside from that, there's a kidnapping story, devastating, four-year-old. Vinnie's got thoughts on that story. And then I got a couple other things here. British, this is a very weird story on what's going on in UK. It's 18-year-old kid, I think he's a finance major, is going to college.

• 5:35Patrick Bet-David?

  A 23-year-old guy, who apparently is a Sikh, comes in with a knife, ceremonial knife, and stabs the kid. Then he says, that guy disrespected me and he offended me. Cops come, they put the 18-year-old kid in handcuffs.

• 5:51Adam Sosnick?

  White guy.

• 5:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Sitting on the side, he bleeds to death.

• 5:54Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my god. Yep.

• 5:56Patrick Bet-David?

  In UK.

• 5:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 5:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're telling me that's normal? Like you defended, oh, that guy offended me by saying some words. We'll address that. I mean, why, you know, by the way, no one's talking about that. The mainstream's not gonna talk about that because it goes against the narrative. And then this new movie coming out, Odyssey. Can you imagine? It's about the history of, you know, what happened in Greece and Greeks and all this other stuff. Not a single person that was casted for this movie is Greek, not one. And not only that, Sunny Houston is now trying to tell us that Helen of Troy. Was somehow.

• 6:26Adam Sosnick?

  The African of the, you have to see it. I can't even say the word.

• 6:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's got a good point. Tom says maybe she's talking about a Helen from Troy, Michigan.

• 6:35Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, okay.

• 6:36Patrick Bet-David?

  African American.

• 6:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Helen Williams is part of the League of Women's Voter from Troy, Michigan.

• 6:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And Musk loses it saying, what a dumb thing for these guys to do. A grades are suddenly not a big deal. Everyone apparently in school is getting A's. I was counting how many A's I got in school. But apparently everyone's getting A's today in school because of Chad GBT. And Tom's wife, who's been a teacher for quite some time, she has a way of tracking who is using Chad GBT and who's not. And on top of that, even though A's are climbing, there is one test score that isn't. Matter of fact, it's declining and it's important for parents to know this. Tom will give us insight on this. And then Kamala Harris came out and revealed their hand of what they want to do. And by the way, for some of you guys that think Kamala will never run again after devastating 107 days that we all had to listen to that voice.

• 7:25Patrick Bet-David?

  It was a very difficult. I can listen to Obama for hours, his voice. Bill Clinton soothing voice when he speaks. Joe Biden's voice, you can listen to the guy's voice. By the way, I can listen to Hillary Clinton's voice.

• 7:36Adam Sosnick?

  I know.

• 7:36Patrick Bet-David?

  10 times more than you can hear Kamala Harris. Whenever we play a clip by Kamala Harris, 60% of viewers quit. And studies have shown about 1% of them have anxiety attacks and panic attacks. 0.1% accidents happen when they watch Kamala Harris speak. But we're going to play this clip because it's going to reveal what her agenda is. And then last but not least, maybe one of the best clips we'll play today. Vinny just showed it to me. It could be the best clip, honestly, is a clip of James Comey. Ladies asking James Comey, so hey, if the president offered you a pardon, would you have taken it? He says, no. He says, why would you have not taken it?

• 8:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Because the act of taking a pardon or receiving a pardon is saying you're guilty. Then she says, so are you saying the same thing as Fauci and all these other guys that took the pardon? They're guilty? I'll let him answer for you on what he said because it's an indirect shot at Fauci. And it's important for us to address that. Now, having said that.

• 8:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, for us that are going into the weekend, and we're having conversations about the 250 year anniversary that's coming around the corner. We can't wait for that, as well as the World Cup. And everyone's saying, Pat, what happened to the next hat? I thought we're doing more limited edition hats, you know. But by the way, Rob, can you do me a favor? Go on eBay if you could and type in "future looks bright." For some of you guys that missed the last hats and you're like, Pat, I can't get it. Just go on eBay. The previous ones, the number, you're going to pay premium because people buy it and put it on here. So if you go a little bit lower, a lot of these hats are here that you can go order from previous limited editions one. But today, Rob, if you can play the clip,

• 9:17Patrick Bet-David?

  we have a limited edition, one out of 250, USA 250 year anniversary edition, and it's sick. Go ahead, Rob.

• 9:28Adam Sosnick?

  It started with a belief that bold decisions shape the future. For 250 years, that mindset has defined a nation, not someday, but now. Relentless, unapologetic, always moving forward. It's a good looking guy. And the ones who carry it, they don't wait for permission. They build, they risk, they lead. This is for them. Precision in every detail. Purpose in every stitch, a symbol of where you stand.

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• 12:11Tom Ellsworth?

  How many discounts does USAA Auto Insurance offer? Too many to say here. Multi-vehicle discount, safe driver discount, uh, new-vehicle discount, storage discount, legacy driver discount.

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• 12:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That shirt is sick. Oh, is that the sweater you're wearing? I didn't see the sweater. Oh my god, that white on white. By the way, does a bike come with it?

• 12:41Adam Sosnick?

  We don't wait for what's next. We define it. The future looks bright.

• 12:50Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 12:50Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, here's all I'll tell you folks. I'm telling you, in 30 minutes, this hat's gonna be gone. For those of you guys that want to gift it to somebody, go to VTmerch.com, place your order, get the shirt, get the sweater. If not for you, get it for somebody else. And for some of the youngins that they buy, they get upset when it goes through. They buy it and they put it on eBay. You know, you can do your thing as well. But go to VTmerch.com, place your order. This will not last long. And sport it. Go to work, go to the gym, put it on, go to church. Others will recognize the brand, "Future Looks Bright", as it's getting bigger. With that being said, let's get right into the first story. The president and his team visits China, and now the clips are out. The conversations, what was discussed? What was the main issue? China's number one issue, they made it very clear and kept repeating it over and over

• 13:34Patrick Bet-David?

  and over and over again, and that was Taiwan. So as the conversations are happening with the visit, first things first, if you can go to what the president said, the meaning, the significance of this, the fact that this is the longest standing relationship a president has had with the leader of China. Go ahead, Rob.

• 13:55Speaker 07

  You and I have known each other now for a long time. In fact, the longest relationship of our two countries that any president and president has had. And that's, to me, an honor. We've had a fantastic relationship. We've gotten along. When there were difficulties, we worked it out. I would call you, and you would call me. And whenever we had a problem, people don't know. Whenever we had a problem, we worked it out very quickly. You and I have known each-

• 14:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you can pause it right there. So, you know, and then he says, "People give me a hard time that I'm being complimentary", all this other stuff. And then Xi gets up, and he says, "Look, the president is actually making America great again." Can you imagine? The leader of China officially joined MAGA. Okay? 1.3 billion people that can no longer vote, cannot vote, but officially, the leader of that 1.3 billion people is MAGA. Go ahead, Rob.

• 14:47Speaker 07

  Also, the 250th anniversary of American independence. The over 300 million American people are reinvigorating the spirit of patriotism, innovation, and enterprise, and ushering in a new journey for the development of the United States. The people of China and the United States are both great peoples, achieving the great rejuven-

• 15:13Adam Sosnick?

  Nation of the Chinese nation and making America great again can go hand in hand.

• 15:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Bingo.

• 15:19Adam Sosnick?

  We can help each other succeed and advance the well being of the whole world.

• 15:27Patrick Bet-David?

  55年前.

• 15:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I got this.

• 15:30Patrick Bet-David?

  尼克松总统派基辛格

• 15:31Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Rob, we have to stop this.

• 15:32Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I got it, I got it. General Saul. Go ahead. Extra, no.

• 15:38Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, we're not doing this. We're not gonna do this, we're not gonna do this. So, okay, so anyways. A lot of things was discussed. Tom, I mean, I know you're following this closely. What were the most important issues for you? Most important issues that you saw them talk about?

• 15:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So first of all, I think it was strong to walk off the plane with basically, you know, 20% of the GDP of the United States. I mean, I thought that was a boss move to walk in with that. But what came out of it so far seems to be a little thin. I was kind of waiting on Taiwan. I was waiting for Trump to be Trump. You know how he trolls? You know, Xi, Qatar gave me a 747, beautiful, big, beautiful plane, really wonderful. I think gifts like that should go around. So you know what I'm, you know what I'm doing? Celebrate Taiwan, you know, the Double Ten Festival, October 10th. I'm giving him an aircraft carrier. I thought that would just be nice of me. I was waiting for Trump to like say something like that in sort of his Trumpian way, you know what I mean?

• 16:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Just go there. But they really didn't. They kind of avoided it. But what came out of it on the economic side seems kind of, I was expecting a little more, but I'm glad to see what's there. But I was a little concerned about, we've been talking about not giving advanced chips to China. And now, yesterday, they said Nvidia can sell the H200, which is a powerful chip, to China. 10 Chinese companies can buy the H200, and yesterday Nvidia's

• 17:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Up to 75,000 of them.

• 17:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and yesterday Nvidia was up 10 bucks yesterday. Went up 10 immediately, like from 225 to 235. And then Citi, Jane Fraser was there, CEO of Citi, and she was given permission to do the, get through the The regulation in China, and now they're gonna operate a big securities business. Boeing got 200 planes, the rumor was they were gonna buy 500. And then Besen came out, along with Jameson Greer, the US Trade Representative, and said, hey, you know, the Board of Trade looks like a go. I think that's a positive thing, to have a discussion, ongoing discussion back and forth about trade and tariffs, I think that's progress. Do I think China's still gonna cheat? Absolutely!

• 17:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Do I, do I think that's progress? Yes, I do. But overall, I, I give the trip, from what I can see on the outside, probably, you know, a solid B, but I wanna see the rest of the stuff come out of it. I wanna see real announcements come out about real agriculture, about real, you know, trade deals with specifics. That's, that's what I, I wanna see. And I really wanted to see a little bit more on Taiwan, where we draw the line on Taiwan and say, listen.

• 18:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I think we kinda did. I think we, we did a little bit, what Rubio said. I think the part that gets a little bit of the criticism, Tom, that people were worried, there was a clip where the President is talking to Hannity, right? And he says, we're both spying on each other, right?

• 18:31Tom Ellsworth?

  In like a jokingly manner, which I get it, but at the same token, it's like, this is something serious.

• 18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, do you have that? Yeah, so there's a clip where they're saying, look, they spy on us, we spy on them, which by the way, he's not lying, he's true, he's right, that they're both spying on each other.

• 18:44Tom Ellsworth?

  For 50 years, he like jokingly says it.

• 18:45Patrick Bet-David?

  For 50 years, there's a clip of a...

• 18:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I might have sent it to you, Rob, if I didn't.

• 18:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, but, but the point is, like, when he's saying spying on each other, we spy on you, you spy on us. One of the talks was that, on the criticism side of the President was saying, hey, allowing China to buy more agriculture in America, which by the way, there's, there's a lot of people like, we don't want these guys to buy any land here with us.

• 19:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course. And they've been, we caught some of their spies trying to come over and, and poison our freaking fields.

• 19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 19:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Like agricultural freaking terrorism.

• 19:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, right. And, and that happened in different places, some are seeing that's also what happened in Florida for the, you know, the orange farms that took a, a big shot here, last 20 years, you know, down 85, 90%. So, and then the other part, was this it, Rob, on the spying?

• 19:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir.

• 19:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go for it, go for it.

• 19:32Tom Ellsworth?

  It goes for the Department of Justice. It's the bureaucrats inside...

• 19:37Speaker 07

  I said, "We spy on them too," I guess, you know. So, some people thought that was cute, other people said, "You don't have to say that." I said, "I sort of do." No, we have, we do things and they do things and that's the way it is. Now, with that being said, I spoke to him very strongly about them and I'd like to see it taken care of, but they've been doing that for 50 years. Well, we see a change, in other words, will there be improvement with trade? Fentanyl is way down coming into the country for two reasons. The border's strong, but it's also down because they're sending less. You know, we taxed them, I gave them a 20% tariff and because of fentanyl, it's like a, it's like a penalty.

• 20:22Speaker 07

  Nobody ever did that, you didn't know that probably. I gave them a 20% tariff because they're sending fentanyl. It's a huge amount of money.

• 20:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, your thoughts, your thoughts on this?

• 20:33Adam Sosnick?

  I know, you know the saying, you know, "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer." I could see with that type of tactic. Tom made a really good point at the beginning, Pat, about the, how much money did you say, Tom? Well, what was the amount? It was 12 trillion dollars worth of companies and people there. Elon Musk of Tesla, Tim Cook of Apple, Jensen Huang from Nvidia, Larry Fink, BlackRock, Jane Frazier, Citigroup, Larry Culp from GE Aerospace, and then Kelly Odenberg from Boeing, and then, Pat, they have executives from Meta, Mastercard, Visa, Illumina, Goldman Sachs, and Coherent. So, dude, they had a serious, serious thing there. I think a huge, I think a deal, Tom, a big deal is on the horizon, but at the same

• 21:12Adam Sosnick?

  time, the last time that the president visited Beijing was November 7, 2017, nine years ago, and right after that, what happened? Trade deal, and then a couple of years later, COVID, the biggest freaking pandemic we've had in God knows how long. So, again, Pat, people call it an adversary. I think they're still our enemy because of what they did, but think about it, he's over there, I don't think anything with COVID came up. When we're talking about the spying, we just found out another mayor, another mayor has been a spy for, for how long? I know he's saying that we're spying there. Arcadia, California. Suburb of LA. If our spies are getting caught over there, they're getting killed. Okay, because we don't hear nothing about them. But think about the history, Tom.

• 21:55Adam Sosnick?

  Spy balloons during Biden's administration and nobody said anything. They're buying farmland next to our military bases by Mounts from Air Force Base where I was stationed. Remember, I forgot what year it was. Many of them. Many of them. And then they, we had, they had a secret Chinese police department in Chinatown in Manhattan. And it's just, you know, I'm, I'm just very weary because, you know, this is again, our adversary. They are our enemy. I understand doing business and I want to, you know, build a relationship. But then they're gonna, Trump approved what? Trump's saying that they could bring 500 foreign students here. 500,000. 500,000, I apologize. To buy land, Pat, and take away from America. And I understand, I get, I'm not gonna try to act like I'm a geopolitical professional.

• 22:38Adam Sosnick?

  I don't trust China at all, period. And the one thing I wish he could have asked Xi in front of his face is, hey, COVID. We know, we don't think, we know, we've proved it came out of a freaking lab in your country in Wuhan, where Dr. Fauci is implicated. What, what's up with that? Any investigations? Nothing. So I wish, I wish he would have got a little bit harder with that, that part. Your thoughts?

• 23:01Adam Sosnick?

  Well, China was supposed to replace us as the number one country in the world in 2025, I believe.

• 23:06Adam Sosnick?

  Made in China 2025.

• 23:07Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. And they failed miserably. So let me just be super clear. China's not in America's league. We were sold because a lot of our manufacturing went there and basically our politicians basically bowed to China. Because of Trump, America is by far the number one country in the world, and it's not even close. We were told that China was supposed to surpass us. Let me just give you some quick stats.

• 23:34Adam Sosnick?

  What is our GDP versus theirs? Do you know it off the top of your head? Top, do you know it? 30 trillion to 19 trillion. So China would need Germany, Japan, and Saudi Arabia's economy to somewhat equal United States. We have the number one economy in the world. GDP per capita, do you know what it is in America? Versus China? $90,000 America GDP per capita. You know what it is in China? $14,000 per person. That means you make $14,000 per person in China. 90K United States. Like Drake says, like Kendrick Lamar, they ain't like us. Okay, we have the number

• 24:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Number one world's economy, number one military, number one innovation, number one energy now. Who needs who more? I would argue China is not in our league. They need this meeting way more than us.

• 24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so again, they do for sure. And Trump went in in a way where, just visualize if Kamala would have gone. Who would she have taken? Probably six transgender. She would have probably taken Dylan Mulvaney. And they would have sat there trying to negotiate and they would have sold everything we have to them. Instead of the ceremony that happened here.

• 24:44Tom Ellsworth?

  She would have had the CEO of Smirnoff get off of her.

• 24:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so if you see the ceremonial events that they put together for him coming there. They know what this is. They know who's the boss.

• 24:54Adam Sosnick?

  And they know, she knows that he loves, look how happy Trump is. Cause there's people that are like.

• 24:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're trying to make him happy to the point where.

• 25:02Adam Sosnick?

  They're all gonna go to a factory after.

• 25:04Patrick Bet-David?

  They wanted to make a song, like they knew what his playlist was, paying attention to details. Tom, do you wanna talk about what it was on that one menu of songs that they were gonna play?

• 25:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they had the equivalent of a state dinner and we can see the, here. And during the state dinner, they said they're a play of plays. I mean, look at this, it's very elegant brochure, they got the White House there. They've got Beijing right there, Beijing Palace right there. Very, very elegant, the official seals up in the corner. And they have the music program. And it's like China in the glow of lights. Edelweiss, The Butterfly Lovers. We are the world, a wish fulfilled, ode to the pear blossom. And the last one, YMCA. It's a state dinner lineup, very elegant. John Philip Sousa, they have a Sousa march, very elegant. You know, a orchestral band playing there.

• 25:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at the, look at the detail and look at the silverware and the chopstick holder. I mean, this was elegant, this was very elegant and put together. And right there at the bottom of the playlist, Pat.

• 26:08Adam Sosnick?

  Y N C A.

• 26:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Hang on a second, I'm getting a, I'm getting a text, I have a text, hang on.

• 26:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom, this is when you say entertainment.

• 26:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Melania, please stop singing that.

• 26:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you paid attention to the poll on entertainment like it was.

• 26:23Adam Sosnick?

  Melania called it the gay national anthem.

• 26:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I wasn't.

• 26:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Melania said what?

• 26:27Adam Sosnick?

  Melania calls that song the gay national anthem.

• 26:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that what he says it?

• 26:30Adam Sosnick?

  Remember, that's what she.

• 26:31Patrick Bet-David?

  She called it the gay national anthem.

• 26:33Adam Sosnick?

  Right, right, right.

• 26:34Patrick Bet-David?

  She didn't say that.

• 26:34Adam Sosnick?

  Alleged. He said that she calls it.

• 26:36Patrick Bet-David?

  She calls it the gay national anthem. And he said that she said that's the gay national anthem, okay. So, but let me, let me, let me continue with this on.

• 26:44Tom Ellsworth?

  See.

• 26:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 26:47Speaker 07

  She hates when I dance to at the end to.

• 26:52Speaker 07

  She hates when I dance to what's sometimes referred to as the gay national anthem, you know that. She hates it. You know, that song was number five thirty-two years ago. And it went to number one thirty-two years later, there's never been anything like. It never hit number one. It was number five thirty-two years ago and it went to number one for months during the last months of the game. We love that song.

• 27:14Adam Sosnick?

  We love that song.

• 27:15Speaker 07

  But she goes, darling, please, you know, she's a very elegant woman, she goes, darling, please don't dance. It's not presidential. I said, it may not be presidential, but I'm leading by twenty points in the polls, so.

• 27:26Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my God, it's so funny.

• 27:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so you have that part, now, going back to fun, everything, hey, we're glad we're having a president. So, Xi did to Trump what Newsom did to Xi when Xi went to California. Just, just to put in perspective.

• 27:41Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 27:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Xi did to Trump above and beyond what Newsom did to Xi when Xi went to San Francisco and they kind of, uh.

• 27:47Adam Sosnick?

  Agree.

• 27:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Opened it up, so they're, they're kind of showing the best and hey, we want to make sure you feel good about it. Now, the, the, the part about Taiwan, Tom, that a lot of people are saying, like even you said, I don't know if it's gonna happen, it's not gonna happen. So, th- this is the part, messaging from everybody, yes, we saw the chips with Nvidia, seventy-five thousand dollar, seventy-five thousand chips to each of those company, Alibaba, Tencent, ByteDance, JD.com, Foxconn, all that, yes. The two hundred jets confirmed Boeing being sold at a price of twenty, one to twenty-four billion dollars estimated value. Yes, you know, they were supposed to do five hundred, but when it came down to Taiwan. Xi was not changing. And even there was a moment where they asked about the topic of Taiwan to Trump and Xi. And it was an awkward moment.

• 28:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, do you have that clip? Watch this moment here on when they ask about Taiwan. Neither one of them want to comment on it. Go ahead, Rob.

• 28:43Speaker 07

  It's great.

• 28:45Speaker 07

  Great place. Incredible. China is beautiful.

• 28:49Patrick Bet-David?

  China is beautiful, right? China is beautiful. Now, Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one here first. Xi warned, okay? This is a Xi to Trump private sessions Chinese FM readout, May 13th. The Taiwan issue is the most significant concern in the China-US relation. If addressed properly, stability. Conversely, mishandling could lead to clashes and conflicts. This is Xi privately, okay? Taiwan's red line, China's red line. The Taiwan issue lies at the heart of China's fundamental interest. Foreign Minister Lin Jian, okay? Xi pressed Trump to publicly oppose Taiwan independence. Xi pressed Trump to say, hey, leave these guys alone. Then Rubio's counter.

• 29:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, if you have the clip with Rubio, Rubio was like, no, this is not what we're doing. Because, you know, the whole part of why this is creating a conflict is because Trump was about to sell $11 billion of arms package to them. And they authorized the largest ever Taiwan arms deal, but has not begun fulfilling. China demanded Washington honor its commitments. And this is in December 2025. So here's what Rubio had to say. Go ahead, Rob. Yeah, US policy on the issue of Taiwan is unchanged as of today and as of the meeting that we had here today. It was raised. They always raise it on their side. We always make clear our position and we move on to the other topics. We know where they stand and I think they know where we stand. Yeah, US policy. Straight up, okay, for him to have that conversation. And by the way, Taiwan said, thank you.

• 30:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, expressed gratitude for Washington's long-term support and views actions contributing to regional stability positively. Xi is saying, hey, halt the $11 billion weapon sale to Taiwan. So you have to realize this is an interesting place because China can like, wait a minute. You want me to be okay with you selling to Taiwan, but you don't want me to sell and help out Iran? Why not? This is a double standard. So they're probably going to use that in the negotiation tactics to see who has what leverage. Tom, what do you stand with this?

• 30:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Where I stand is this. Don't sell that stuff to them.

• 30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  To Taiwan?

• 30:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, so when they say that, stop, don't do this. What they're really saying is, we're gonna take it. We're gonna take it. And if you're selling this, you're gonna make it more bloody. Because if we don't jump in, or Japan offers support, or even Australia offers support, you know, naval support, Japan, Australia, they could get there very quickly. They could be part of a blockade. If no one jumps in, they're just gonna take it. That's what they're telling you. And when they say, "Don't sell that stuff," and they make that the lead argument, Pat, they're telling you, they're telling you that they're gonna do it. And they're planning to do it sooner than later. And they don't want a heavier armed Taiwan.

• 31:32Tom Ellsworth?

  They want to do to Taiwan exactly what we did in Venezuela. We didn't take over Venezuela. We came in and we had the US Special Forces give special Uber services for Maduro, right? "We're gonna give you a ride, ride to New York." "I don't wanna go to New York." "Too bad, get in." "Here's your tracksuit." So it's like, and we took them. So that's what's going on. China is very, very clear, they're gonna do this. And I think it's, you can do it with an overwhelming military-threatening force without bloodshed. And I think that's exactly what China has in mind. And they do not want Taiwan to have significant new weapons to fight back, because now it becomes bloody. And now it becomes big.

• 32:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, while this is going on with the Taiwan, I think that's a massive issue. Because I think the Taiwan issue, China's gonna say the same with Iran, which it's interesting how they'll handle that, okay? Then Xi is also bringing up and talking about the fact that this whole thing with Iran is lowering the amount of transactions and business that's being done. So hey, we gotta kinda figure this out as well, because, you know, we gotta figure out Strait of Hormuz fairly fast, because it's impacting business, okay? It's impacting business. So then Besen comes out and says, "Hey, this is why China has a significantly greater interest in reopening the Strait of Hormuz compared to the US." And he's right. He's right. So Trump's like, "Yeah, whatever."

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• 35:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But they're like, yeah, maybe whatever to you, but we'll be impacted by it. Rob, I don't know if you have that clip by Besen on Besen making comments in regards to this. Is that it, Rob? Or is it a different clip?

• 35:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe this is a different clip. This is him talking about the bilateral board of trade.

• 35:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it kind of goes with it. Put this one, kind of goes with it. Vice Premier and I, who have a very good working relationship, I think we've seen each other, this was either our eighth or ninth meeting, worked on the agenda for today's meeting in terms of the economics of deliverables. And so we talked about purchases, we talked about some issues that the Chinese side had, and we're going to talk about forming a board of trade for the bilateral trade between the US and China, and we're going to talk about a board of investment that will be responsible for investment in non-sensitive areas.

• 36:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, okay, so there's Besen talking about that, you know, he's kind of a, you know, bringing up on the economy side because he's dealing with a different issue. And in the meantime, you know who people are talking about that's missing? The guy named JD Vance that wasn't on the trip. Now, you know, Tom made it very clear yesterday why JD and the President didn't travel together. Tom, if you want to make that clear for the audience, why the President and the VP don't travel together?

• 36:40Tom Ellsworth?

  The President and VP don't travel on the same plane together at all. That's just for, that's just for safety. I mean, they could be going to Nebraska, you just don't want to have something happen and have them both lost.

• 36:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so that's something that's been historic. It's not, it's not like it's a big deal, right?

• 36:52Tom Ellsworth?

  However, they don't send JD on a plane over to China either. They don't want both men on foreign, so both, both people, President could be a female in the future, Vice President could be a female. They do not want both individuals on the same foreign soil away in the future.

• 37:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And same thing, you already said that. So it's the same thing, that they don't want the same person to go in the same place and the same plane. So here's JD making, making fun about it, joking about the fact that why he wasn't there. Go ahead, Rob.

• 37:21Adam Sosnick?

  China a few hours ago, I always, you know, you may know that because of Secret Service protocols that I don't travel outside of the country with the President of the United States. So on days today, I sometimes feel like Macaulay Culkin in Home Alone. I walk into the White House and it's very quiet and no one's there and I, it takes me a second to realize exactly what's going on. But we've got a very big announcement today, actually a number of big announcements.

• 37:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So JD wasn't there and, and so, you know, why isn't JD there? Why is he taking Ruby or why is Ruby, you know, negotiating JD's not going? That was the reason. There's, there, in this specific moment, it's not like one side or the other. However, is there anything else, Rob, with China that we got to address before we get into the next story? China or Taiwan?

• 38:01Adam Sosnick?

  It was one funny clip, Pat, that we didn't play when he goes, how'd you feel meeting him on Hannity? And he goes, he's very tall for a Chinese man. He was, he was, I'm dead serious. Rob, can you play it? He goes, he's very tall, central casting. He had to, he had to, because he is tall, Pat.

• 38:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's a giant.

• 38:19Speaker 07

  When you look for a leader of China to play a role in a movie. Central casting. He's central casting. You wouldn't, you couldn't find a guy like him. Even his, his physical features, you know, he's tall, very tall. And especially for this country, because they tend to be a little bit shorter.

• 38:39Adam Sosnick?

  He's being real.

• 38:40Speaker 07

  You look at the military, I mean, the military today was incredible. That military marching was incredible.

• 38:45Adam Sosnick?

  He basically, I mean.

• 38:46Speaker 07

  If you went to Hollywood.

• 38:48Adam Sosnick?

  He's saying he's tall. It's, he's a big guy. That's not, that's not common. Who's the tallest Chinese basketball player that they had? What was his name?

• 38:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yao Ming?

• 38:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yao Ming.

• 38:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Yao Ming was 7'4" and the story of Yao Ming is. 7'6", I believe. Two of the tallest parents. I think Yao Ming was 7'4". Can you, can you type in Yao Ming, watch him be 7'6"? You might be right. I think Yao Ming was 7'4", but let's just check.

• 39:10Adam Sosnick?

  Yao, 7'6".

• 39:11Patrick Bet-David?

  You know basketball more than me, Pat. What a one. This one you got. Okay, now do Murasan and Manute Bol. George Muras, 7'7".

• 39:19Adam Sosnick?

  You don't like when I tell stories.

• 39:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Murison, Murison, some reports say he's 7'8". Go ahead, George Murison.

• 39:25Adam Sosnick?

  George Murison.

• 39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  How tall was George Murison?

• 39:27Adam Sosnick?

  George Murison was not in Yao Ming's league.

• 39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead, go ahead with height. George, oh my god, that was...

• 39:31Adam Sosnick?

  Murison.

• 39:32Patrick Bet-David?

  7'7", guaranteed. Do me a favor, Rob. Ask the question on ChatGPT. Can you do me a favor, ask the question on ChatGPT? I don't want to have to embarrass my boss. Manud Bol was what? How tall was Manud? 7'7" as well, sir. Manud Bol was 7'7"? Maybe 7'6". I thought he was 7'6". I got drunk with Manud Bol. I gotta give you...

• 39:48Adam Sosnick?

  Minot Ball, 7'7".

• 39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  7'7", yeah. Tom, so going back... I'm sorry, Pat. You're so funny. Yao Ming, being the fact that he's 7'4", the internet got it wrong. Thanks for the sense. Yao Ming, you know the story with who his parents were?

• 40:02Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 40:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Two of the best athletes in China, they said you guys gotta make a baby together.

• 40:06Adam Sosnick?

  They made... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like an arranged marriage?

• 40:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Go type in Yao Ming's parents. Yao Ming's parents are 6'3" and 6'7", and they're like, hey, you guys gotta make a baby. And they made Yao Ming.

• 40:17Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, they had a one-child policy. They knocked it out of the park. Wow, that's crazy.

• 40:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And they did three children because of the height. Like, they counted Yao Ming as three kids. You know, in population, he counts as three people in the population because of the height. But anyways, let's continue. So going back to this, so look. So there was like four or five inappropriate jokes made that I think four of them they missed, which is good. But we'll skip to the next part. Let's go to the next story that we have. So this is the part about the 500,000 Chinese students in US universities. Rob, if you want to play this clip, Tom, I'm gonna come to you on this one first because I know you're a big fan of this. Go ahead, Rob.

• 40:48Speaker 07

  It's 500,000 students they come, good students. I could tell them, I don't want any students is a very insulting thing to say to a country. They would then immediately go out and start building universities all over China. But if you don't have those students, good students by the way, if you don't... And we do another thing, you know, if they're good and they want to stay in America, we won't give them a green card and things like that. You know, and that, not only them, but other countries. But if you want to see a university system die, take a half a million people out of it.

• 41:28Patrick Bet-David?

  It's five. So.

• 41:29Adam Sosnick?

  But, but Pat, the same token, like, okay, like, again, I don't, I'm not gonna say I know everything. I wasn't in any of these meetings, obviously, but you can't, on one hand, say they spy on us and we spy on them. If you don't think the CCP is talking to every single one of those students, and maybe, let's just say conservatively, Tom, ready for, hey, numbers talk, are you ready, Tom? Out of 500,000, let's say 5% are spies, or 5% are, what is that?

• 41:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, 500,000, come in, how many are spies? Probably 501,000.

• 42:00Adam Sosnick?

  So 5, no, I'm asking you the numbers.

• 42:03Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a 2,500.

• 42:04Adam Sosnick?

  So 2,500.

• 42:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 42:05Adam Sosnick?

  2,500 that I, we don't trust, and then on the same, and then the flip side.

• 42:09Patrick Bet-David?

  25,000, 25,000.

• 42:10Adam Sosnick?

  25,000 students that could, potentially could be spies, and then you're gonna say, well, they're probably good students. No, you, I'm sorry, Pat, you can't trust them. Are we sending our students?

• 42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, because this goes to the story of Arcadia, Rob, if you want to go to it. A mayor in Arcadia, who did all her campaigns in Chinese, and then eventually she comes out and she says what? Um, I'm a spy. Check this, is this the one, Rob, the Eileen Wang? Go ahead, Rob.

• 42:34Adam Sosnick?

  Now at 11 from secret messages to pro-China propaganda. The SoCal mayor accused of acting as an illegal covert agent for Beijing for years. Good evening, I'm Micah Olman.

• 42:46Speaker 06

  And I'm Cher Calvin. The mayor of Arcadia has now resigned and taken a plea deal after the FBI says she admitted to secretly serving the interests of the Chinese government.

• 42:57Adam Sosnick?

  Carlos Saseo live in Arcadia for us tonight, Carlos.

• 43:01Speaker 06

  It looks like a real life anchor. Micah Cher, the city of Arcadia is without a mayor tonight after Eileen Wang stepped down following these federal charges. Now, she's accused of acting as a foreign agent for the Chinese government, and tonight, the Trump administration is weighing in.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  That's Eileen Wang in 2022 campaign video when she was running for Arcadia City Council.

• 43:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So, this is.

• 43:27Adam Sosnick?

  She, did they not see that one coming? Like, she is, like, speaking, like, complete Chinese.

• 43:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Apparently, and this is allegedly, Eric Swalwell wanted to spy on her. And he, because that's his type, and you couldn't do it.

• 43:43Adam Sosnick?

  She, she doesn't get a bang back.

• 43:44Patrick Bet-David?

  But the point is, so this is the part, it's a, it's a real issue, that a lot of Americans are worried, saying, hey, wait a minute. I thought it's America first. I thought it's about us first and it's like, no, it's really the education and Humberto made a very good point about, you know, you come here, you learn the system and then you take the stuff back and you're doing what you're doing over there.

• 44:03Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 44:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And so, and then also at the same time, it's like if the US educational system is not performing and it's losing and it's going in a direction where we're seeing what results it is, well, maybe some of them gotta go out of business. This is 500,000 customers you're bringing.

• 44:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 44:17Patrick Bet-David?

  To some of the guys. So that's the criticism of the educational system. Rob, you're so funny. You pull up this clip right now to go to it. But yeah, I'm like, I'm already laughing, playing this. This is our, by the way, this is our current educational system on how well our students read in some of the markets. Where is this, Rob?

• 44:34Adam Sosnick?

  Philadelphia.

• 44:34Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Philadelphia. Go ahead, Rob.

• 44:37Speaker 02

  She wore a suit clothes that were.

• 44:45Adam Sosnick?

  Are you serious?

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Who's this for? Extraordinary but somewhat gourcher?

• 44:54Adam Sosnick?

  Now, explain what that mean?

• 44:55Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 44:57Adam Sosnick?

  She wore a sahala of clothes that were extraordinary, whatever, bro. But somewhat. What does that mean? She wore a lot. Wait, she wore, bro, I don't know, bro. Can you take the card back, please?

• 45:12Speaker 02

  She wore a, oh baby. She wore a silhouette of clothes that were.

• 45:19Adam Sosnick?

  Is this a joke?

• 45:20Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, this. I have a hard time saying silhouette.

• 45:25Adam Sosnick?

  She wore a silhouette of clothes that were extraordinary.

• 45:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to, go to the, is there the last one, Rob? Is there something at the end? Oh, this is the one that he gets. Keep going, Rob. Keep going, Rob.

• 45:35Adam Sosnick?

  All right. Now, what does that mean? I have no idea.

• 45:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 45:41Adam Sosnick?

  She were.

• 45:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the one.

• 45:44Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know what this is saying.

• 45:49Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, we're laughing at these kids. But what's funny is that it's not even funny. It's our educational system is letting down these kids. Standards, you don't know how to say the word silhouette. Now, listen, when I first came to the States, I didn't know how to say Wednesday. Because we would watch a show called Gilligan's Island. Yes. I don't know if you guys remember Gilligan's Island, right? You would eat lasagna. Yeah, lasagna, right? We didn't know how to, I didn't know how to, but I was fresh off the boat. You know, we just got off, I swam across and it was like we came and we went to school. It was a different scenario. If you were born and raised here and you have a hard time with some of these words, our educational, you know, system's got a bit of a fixing to do. So, Tom, let me ask you, is Jensen Huang celebrating right now after coming back from China?

• 46:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the biggest winner? Who are the biggest losers coming back from China?

• 46:37Tom Ellsworth?

  So I think, I think the biggest winner is still in China. And it's those companies that now are going to be able to buy more powerful chips. And Jensen may be a winner. Let's go take a look today, see what the market thinks on the, on the, on the flatback. Oh, down 10 bucks. So they gave back the gain that they had yesterday. Wow, that's interesting. Okay, right, so they march up the mountain, they march down the mountain. Um, that's interesting. Look at that. Up, you know, up a day ago, 10 bucks and now down.

• 47:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So winners and losers. Are there any clear winners and losers with this?

• 47:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Nvidia is a clear winner. I think all those companies in China that got the more powerful chips are clear winners. Um, I think Citibank is a clear winner. They've wanted to be, to have a, you know, kind of the equivalent of RIA for wealthy Chinese over there. Now they get that opportunity. So I think that was a clear winner. And I'm going to wait and see if there's any other trade deals that get announced. But those I think are the clear winners right now. And what's also very interesting, how many times does Scott Besant say he's been, you know, engaged and over there and talking to people? Nine times, right? Did you know that the, that was one cabinet member we've had talk nine times? I went back and looked it up and apparently under Biden, it wasn't until 23 or 24, right before the election,

• 47:59Tom Ellsworth?

  where Lloyd Austin went over there, John Kerry went over there. But they only had like six visits among four cabinet members. So this is Trump also, I think there is a winner. You're gonna think this is odd, but I think it's a winner for the dialogue. That there is a dialogue that is happening with China and it's active. We may not like everything that's coming out of it. I know I don't, but I think the winner is that we're talking. Cause when people talk, usually temperature of certain things goes down and other things tend to get done. So for that respect, I think it's a winner that we're talking, not yelling at each other across media from half a world away.

• 48:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Adam, your thoughts?

• 48:40Adam Sosnick?

  I think the United States is the big winner because we are the big winner. I agree with Tom's point. They used some term when they, when they left the meeting, they said, the whole point of this is to have a constructive, strategic stability, you know, I said, I think the United States should replace peace through strength, through stability through strength, because we're not gonna have peace with all our enemies. We're not gonna have peace with, with Iran necessarily, or necessarily not be competitors or rivals with China, but we can speak. The, the last time the United States had a, a country that was coming for the number one spot for the hegemony was the USSR.

• 49:20Adam Sosnick?

  Now, if you compare what's going on with China versus the USSR in the eighties, seventies and eighties, it's not even close. Why? We weren't even speaking with China, with Russia at the time, right? The Cold War, we saw the movie with Reagan and Dennis Quaid. We had no business relationship with the USSR. It was complete capitalism on one side of the world and communism on the other side of the world. The state of the world these days is, we actually have a relationship with them. They, they describe it as potential strategic stability type relationship. The reality is this, we use them for certain things, they use us for certain things, but they're never going to beat us. And this is why they have to lie, cheat and steal and have fake mayors spying on, on all of us.

• 50:04Adam Sosnick?

  Cause China's never gonna beat America if all things are considered equal.

• 50:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, now while we're talking about this, you know, and we're kinda going through what's going on here in the conversations that people are having. JD and Rubio's like, hey, who's gonna be the VP? And there is a moment here where Trump jokes, Trump jokes with JD Vance about assassination attempt as he touts, support for his 2028 successor, and then Vance jokes at Trump. You gotta see this, this is purely made for TV. Go ahead, Rob.

• 50:35Speaker 07

  I want to thank also a friend of mine, Secret Service Director Sean Curran. I see you back there, Sean. Thank you very much. And I thought you did a great job two weeks ago. You know why? Because I'm here, okay? We consider being here a success. And I tell you what, your people are all over the place, you know, you got a little... No matter how well you do, they're gonna find fault. But I will be the one to find fault if I think it was fault. They had great professional people, and they came out and within seconds, I saw them take JD by the shoulders and lift him up like he was a little boy. I said, "How come they didn't lift me up so fast?"

• 51:20Speaker 07

  They lifted JD, got ripped out of the chair. That was a view of the week. But they did the job, JD, right? I think so.

• 51:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, JD comes out and he says the following about who's gonna be the president in 2028. This is what he had to say. Go ahead, Rob.

• 51:37Speaker 06

  It's not us who are bringing this up. A couple of days ago, Trump made this statement to people in the Rose Garden. Why do you think he does that? Do you think it's a little bit of toying with you both over your succession? Why do you think he brings that up? Just number one.

• 51:51Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I just don't think it sounds like the president of the United States to have a televised competition for who would succeed him as his apprentice. I just think that's not at all what you would expect the president to do. That was good. But no, I think the president, he's always been fascinated by politics. If you talk to him, he was fascinated by politics 30 years before he ever ran for office. So I think it's natural for him to, you know, joke around with us a little bit, to play around with the idea. But I can tell you, the president is as focused as any of us on making sure we do as good of a job now for the American people.

• 52:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so hey, he's kind of playing with Apprentice and Rubio, Trump, all this other stuff. That was good. That was good that that's happened in the exchange. Vinny, where are you at with this? With the whole Rubio and Van stuff?

• 52:35Adam Sosnick?

  I think, I mean...

• 52:38Adam Sosnick?

  I think it's, I think it's too early for like the fireworks is Pat, if you think about it, once we get to, you know, you know, a year out, a year out, then it's gonna be, they're gonna have to be going after each other. It's inevitable. And I think, I think the split is gonna be, depending on the Iran war, Rubio is gonna be the, you know, the, the Republicans' choice, you know, strength, war and all that stuff. And JD, and remember, remember building up, Tom, he was in those meetings and the president said he was, I quote, "less enthusiastic about the war and all that stuff." And then all this joking and stuff, Pat, is gonna be a one day, you're gonna see, boom, shots fired, no pun intended. It's gonna be going after his throat, going after his throat, and then the whole movement is gonna split. Uh, and it's gonna be the people's, people's

• 53:21Adam Sosnick?

  choice. I don't, and I don't see a real outsider, whoever the outsider is gonna be, it's wherever the money's gonna be put in, Pat, because you know, it's, we did the stat of how, however, whoever has the most money, what was the percentage, Robbie, do you remember? Wins the, the election, or, or wins the, the nomination. So, I think it's a little too early, but depending on the Iran war goes, I think it's gonna be, it's gonna be neck and neck.

• 53:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Let's go to the next story. Tom, next story I'm gonna go into is this, uh, story about what happened in Cuba.

• 53:50Adam Sosnick?

  Ooh, wow.

• 53:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Where Cuba's got some interesting thing going on there. A story comes out about US takes steps to indict former Cuban leader Raul Castro because of what happened with, you know, him over the 1996 plane shootout. If you wanna go a little bit lower, there was a humanitarian plane that allegedly was going down there. Possible charges related to a 30-year-old case that involved Cuban government shooting down two planes operated by humanitarian group in 1996. Sources said any indictment would have to be issued by grand jury. After being presented with evidence in the case, news that the United States was looking to indict Castro came hours after CIA Director Ratcliffe led a delegation to Havana on May 14 to deliver a message. From the president to Cuban officials and Raul Guillermo Rodriguez Castro,

• 54:34Patrick Bet-David?

  who's the elder Castro's grandson, if you want to go a little bit lower, the potential indictment for the Cuban leader Raul Castro, now 94, and the charges were reported by CBS News. I mean, this administration likes to go after people above 85 years old. You got, commentate, man, these guys are like targeting the elderly.

• 54:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, they don't run fast.

• 54:54Patrick Bet-David?

  They don't run fast. The 1996, that was funny. The 1996 shootout of two civilian planes operated by the exile group Brothers to the Rescue remains one of the most politically charged episodes in modern US-Cuba relations and one in which the US officials are pressing. You know what it almost feels like, Tom? It almost feels like they're sitting there and you know how we sit in a room and we'll say, okay, how do we take over Cuba? Step number one, this is one way. Number two, number one is by force. Number two is by getting the people revolt. Number three is prevent oil from going there. Number four is...

• 55:34Adam Sosnick?

  Regime change?

• 55:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Regime change. Number five is, let's go arrest Raul Castro. Okay, I almost feel like they sit in a room and have these things that they write with their phones being out. What is that, the, what's the room that they're making all the big decisions?

• 55:47Adam Sosnick?

  Situation room.

• 55:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Situation room. And lawyers say, well, we can go and use a grand jury to go after this and then we go and do this. What is the likelihood that you think things like this are taking place in a situation room?

• 56:03Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that's like 85% likely in my book. I think they're looking at it and they're saying exactly what you say. And one of the things is, hey, you know what? We need, we need the public sentiment. We can't be looking like a bully and everything. Hey, wait a minute, what about the humanitarian airplane that came down? What about that? Well, we'll put that out there, we'll get that there, and you know what? We can be strangling them for energy and then we'll make sure the media, who do we have in the media? CBS, call CBS, we know her, she'll help us. Great. And so I think there's a lot of PR that goes into it, Pat, and I think there's a lot of story that, that, that they push for coverage on. I mean, it is true right now that the situation... in Cuba factually getting away from any jokes or humor it's bad there's a humanitarian

• 56:45Tom Ellsworth?

  situation that's getting worse in Cuba it's deteriorating they're running out of fuel reserves they have generators that run the water pumping plants Pat they're low on not only electricity because if there's a blackout then the power doesn't come to the water pumping plant but if they also are a shortage of fuel they can't run the backup generators at the water pumping plant which means no water so there's water shortages there's power blackouts and they in the middle in the middle of the trip to China you know who they sent to Cuba John Ratcliffe the CIA you know and what is he gonna do Vinnie

• 57:25Tom Ellsworth?

  well guys have you had enough what is the CIA CIA is not on humanitarian mission hey I got all this food for you no no that's UNICEF that's a red cross I'd like to know if you've had enough and I think that that's what's going on down there and I think the Situation Room you characterize it well there's multiple levels to going after this and you need to have public opinion you need to have public awareness that Cuba is down on you know not treating its own people well I think it all comes together with that as a package that gives you the excuse to say okay we did the Uber from Maduro load them up and let's go change it

• 58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  that's that's a good point and Rob if you want to pull up the Ratcliffe picture that he's sitting there in Cuba by the way this just happened either yesterday or day before everybody's focused on China but they're in Cuba doing these meetings they're in Cuba having these negotiations so again this is so impressive for them to they are hitting multiple different projects simultaneously at the same time I'll send it to you Rob Adam your thoughts on this with Cuba

• 58:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I would love to see Cuba be freed I mean they've been in a relevant

• 58:32Patrick Bet-David?

  right there

• 58:33Tom Ellsworth?

  what's up

• 58:34Patrick Bet-David?

  no I'm just showing the picture that's the that's the meeting that they're having you would like to see Cuba be free

• 58:38Tom Ellsworth?

  yeah I mean look Cuba has been in a relevant country since the USSR fell they've been a communist outpost that's basically you know we know about the Bay of Pigs invasion we know about JFK we know about the Cold War but since the USSR fell they've aligned with the communists that are basically in the western hemisphere the Venezuelas of the world

• 58:57Adam Sosnick?

  But since Trump took out Maduro and, you know, implemented his Don Ro doctrine, as you like to call it, Cuba's been relegated to an island that makes cigars, that's 90 miles off the coast of Florida, and just basically subjugates their people and they have an economy that's crumbling because now they don't get oil from Venezuela. You ask the average American what they think about Cuba, they're like, "Dios, it's so irrelevant to me." But it means the world to people in Miami and certain people in Florida. I'll give you one shining light. It's always interesting when I see, you know, enemy countries that love America.

• 59:37Adam Sosnick?

  You know, they said that when USSR fell, it wasn't because of any shots were fired, it was because of our culture took over the USSR. They wanted to drive American cars, they wanted to buy blue jeans. And I'll tell you this, you know that some of the most common names that come out of Cuba? They all start with US. You ever heard this, Pat?

• 59:59Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me.

• 1:00:00Adam Sosnick?

  So because of our ships that are out there that say US Navy, there's so many Cubans that are called US Navy. USNAVI.

• 1:00:10Adam Sosnick?

  This is a true story.

• 1:00:12Adam Sosnick?

  This is true. There's another, thousands of people named US Male. US Male. There's tons of people that are called, women that are called US Lady. Because you're a US lady. They look at-

• 1:00:26Adam Sosnick?

  He's being dead serious, by the way. I actually looked it up because I didn't believe him. It was Navy.

• 1:00:32Adam Sosnick?

  They look at America. "Oh yeah, que paso, US Navy."

• 1:00:35Adam Sosnick?

  US Navy.

• 1:00:36Adam Sosnick?

  They look at America off their coast, they have nothing going on, they're sailing rafts.

• 1:00:39Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me you're joking, right?

• 1:00:40Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 1:00:40Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, he's dead serious.

• 1:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this serious?

• 1:00:42Adam Sosnick?

  USNAVI.

• 1:00:45Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, just put it together, Rob. Put it all together.

• 1:00:47Adam Sosnick?

  Come on, Rob. I mean, look at the images.

• 1:00:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this because comedian told a sketch on this and you guys know?

• 1:00:53Adam Sosnick?

  No, it's because there's ships that sail across the ocean. While they're trying to build rafts, we have these massive Navy ships. And Cubans look at America like, "Oh my God, look at the power."

• 1:01:06Adam Sosnick?

  They're in awe.

• 1:01:07Adam Sosnick?

  Look at the prestige, look at the awe. And they name their kids after our boats. US Navy, US Male, US Lady. Because they have nothing going on. There it is, right there. So talk about our-

• 1:01:19Patrick Bet-David?

  enemies who want nothing more to be American. Respecto mi gente in Cuba. Guys, I'm shell shocked. Yeah, there we go. So you know, because I thought I gave a creative name to our daughter Senna. No. Named after Artisena's last name. That's a great name. But to say Yosnavi. Yeah.

• 1:01:37Adam Sosnick?

  Navy.

• 1:01:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yosnavi. It's a Yosnavi. Yosnavi. It's not a bad name, Vinny.

• 1:01:41Adam Sosnick?

  I actually like it.

• 1:01:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yosnavi.

• 1:01:43Adam Sosnick?

  Me da.

• 1:01:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Yosnavi. Can we get Yosnavi? The part about Cuba, for whatever reason, it'd be a beautiful story. Because Cuba and Iran, it was the same time, you know, with Jimmy Carter, with the whole Muriel boat lift that happened and Iran happened under Carter. This guy Carter, you know, and by the way, this is Cuba right now. It's not like they have a little bit of oil. They have zero oil. Folks, watch this. They literally are running on zero 20 hours of daily blackouts. Jeez. This is the protest right now in Cuba. Go ahead, Rob. That's correct.

• 1:02:16Adam Sosnick?

  Like, dude, I feel so bad.

• 1:02:19Patrick Bet-David?

  We are demanding the right to have electricity. We have gone more than 40 hours without electricity. I live in a community where there are many elderly people, many of them bedridden. There are many children. Food is going bad inside the refrigerators, the little food that can be obtained.

• 1:02:39Patrick Bet-David?

  The country's situation is well known and well, it gave us the motivation to come out to see if even by banging a pot, they will give us at least three hours of electricity.

• 1:02:52Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is.

• 1:02:53Adam Sosnick?

  They need help.

• 1:02:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for them. Good for them. If we're able to build these guys out and get them to be free, it'll be a place. It's a beautiful place to get a lot of tourism. Tourism could be a big business for them if they're able to free this place. Well, they get a lot of tourism around the world, just not the United States because of our blockade and our embargo. But, you know, in Miami, I can't tell you how many times I've heard pots and pans in the streets. Like when Fidel died, when Fidel Castro died, was arguably the greatest day I've ever seen in Miami history. I don't know if you can find.

• 1:03:23Adam Sosnick?

  These clips, I, the pots, the pans, the, the spatulas, everything out there, they were going insane. When their communist leader died, how many more examples do we need to see of communism and Marxism failing?

• 1:03:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I say we try it one more time.

• 1:03:41Adam Sosnick?

  The dude in New York. It's not like the Islamism that they're doing right there isn't working perfectly. 5000 times is the charm.

• 1:03:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, if they could get this turned around, if they could get this turned around, what most people don't realize that the ground in Cuba is incredibly fertile. They could be a major, major, major, major western hemisphere supplier of sugar, coffee and tobacco, number one. They also have massive mineral, there's this one part of Cuba that, whatever it is, it comes out of the bottom of the ocean, fills into these mountains and it's full of cobalt and nickel. More than almost 92% of the rest of the world, so they could have that. They could be self-sufficient, it would take 10 years, but they could have a working, you know, partly industrial, partly agricultural economy bolstered by tourism.

• 1:04:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Cuba could work, it's, but it just needs the leadership, more importantly, it needs to be free, but right now, it's a humanitarian crisis and I hope that, can we help them make up their mind about shifting path? And just get enough energy to run the water pumps, because without the water pumps running, they can't flush the toilets and they can't have drinking water. That one move, getting those pumps running, so they could have running water, that just breaks my heart, because you've got infants and you've got people that are there that are just innocent.

• 1:04:59Patrick Bet-David?

  This is it, this is it, crowds celebrating when Fidel Castro died, Rob, play it.

• 1:05:03Tom Ellsworth?

  This is little Havana.

• 1:05:04Patrick Bet-David?

  At least four to five hours, a crowd believed to be at least a thousand people or more stood here in celebration. See, this is the part, this is the part, this is the part where you, you realize, some people go back and remember where they were born. And they want to see that place be free again, and I relate to this, I understand the Cuban people that are going through this, let me get to the next story, next story I want to get to is. Let's go, let's go a complete different direction next. I want to get into the story about,

• 1:05:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll go to this one here, UK Rob. What a weird story, folks. What a weird disturbing story. So if you're driving, if you're a truck driver driving and you're watching this, it's a disturbing story. If you're, if you're a mother right now driving to the shop, or you're, maybe you're watching this on a podcast at work and you're sitting down and doing your thing. Listen to this weird story. Sikh man stabbed 18-year-old university student to death with an eight-inch ceremonial knife after claiming he'd been racially abused. Court here. So now if you look at this main tagline, you're like, okay, maybe he was saying something. But watch what happens here. University student died after being repeatedly stabbed by a man. Armed with a Sikh ceremonial sword, finance student Henry Nowak, 18 years old, was on his way home

• 1:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  from a night out when he was allegedly attacked by stranger Vikram Digwa, 23 years old, with an eight-inch shastar blade. Digwa was caught on camera saying, "I am a bad man." Before the fatal attack, jurors were told, "Rob, can you go a little bit lower?" And, and, and he continues, "He is now on trial, accused of murder alongside with his mother, 53, who was accused of assisting an offender. Prosecutor said she went on the scene before running home with a knife to stash it among an arsenal of weapons there. They both denied the charges." Southampton Crown Court heard Mr. Nowak was in the first term of studying accountancy and finance at Southampton University when he went for a night out in the city on December 3rd, 2023 with friends. The teenager went home at around 11:00 PM and having drunk less than the legal to drive,

• 1:07:04Patrick Bet-David?

  jurors were told he was speaking to friends on Snapchat when he was dug across Digwa. When, when he came across Digwa after he was stabbed, Mr. Nowak tried to climb a fence to escape, but Digwa was aggressively pursuing him, leaving a trail of blood. The court, police were called to the scene, but arrested Mr. Nowak after Digwa claimed he had been racially abused. Mr. Nowak was in handcuffs before passing out and dying in the street a short time later. Prosecutor Nicholas Lunnberg, KC, said, "Put simply, Henry drowned in his own blood with his lung having been cut by the knife going eight centimeters into him." Digwa raises the defense of self-defense. He persisted that Henry perpetrated a drunken racist attack.

• 1:07:47Patrick Bet-David?

  He says that he doesn't recall exactly how the fatal wound came to be inflicted, if you want to go a little bit lower. That's the student, okay? That died. Go a little bit lower, Rob. Is there any more opening capture? I don't know if it was captured. It was a moment he met Digwell was carrying an extremely large knife at a half past midnight. Noak was dead. Vinny, when you hear a story like this, what do you think about?

• 1:08:10Adam Sosnick?

  And where was this taken? Where did this happen?

• 1:08:12Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, this is in, um... United Kingdom. Yeah, it's in UK, but the city is, it's, I mean, he's going to Southampton. So choose what city that's gonna be in.

• 1:08:20Adam Sosnick?

  And I saw somebody yesterday on some panel. I don't know if it was, it was an older clip of Bill Maher and this lady is talking to a panelist. She's like, "Everything you guys are talking about, about, about England and it's all fake. It's all fake news." And Bill Maher was like, "Really? Really? Look at this case. Look at, this is exactly it. And the fact that you're handcuffing the person bleeding out, that should tell you everything you need to know about what's the priority to these people. And I can't tell you how many clips I see online all the time of these soft cops. When they show up, Pat, they're always going after the white person. Like when it's this type of situation, this ma'am, they're like, "You shouldn't be saying this and you shouldn't be saying that." And mind you, it's a massive group over there that's coming after the one person. Okay, it's unbelievable.

• 1:09:04Adam Sosnick?

  It's un, and it's because of people like that. It's because of people like Keir Starmer and the fact that, Pat, they've let so many people in, just like the rape gangs, the Pakistani rape gangs. They let them out, they're like, they're like, "We can't. We have to let them go because we don't wanna look like we're racist." This is unbelievable. And this is why this, I'm telling you, the UK has fallen, Pat, and there's no way coming back for them. It's over. They've opened the gates and the people have come in and it's over. It's over. And as, as a police officer, Pat, you should know that, as a police officer, you show up to the scene...

• 1:09:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You were a police officer.

• 1:09:34Adam Sosnick?

  I was a military police. You're, somebody's bleeding out. The hell with it. Call the, the paramedics. Get the paramedics there ASAP. And why are you, why are you, time out. I'm bleeding out. You're gonna handcuff me. Meanwhile, the guy that did the stabbing is standing there and nothing happens to him. That's unbelievable. And I hope that they sue them. I hope that they sue the freaking government, but good luck with that. Good luck with suing them because they, they don't wanna look racist or, or get the other guy in trouble. Unbelievable.

• 1:10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Thoughts?

• 1:10:04Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, when you are out there with ceremonial blades and you are, in the words of people there, you know, incapacitated in some way, he says he doesn't remember it, who was drunk, both were drunk, you know, it's terrible. My opinion of this is that when you basically are poorly patrolled and do not have adequate deterrence, instead you have people that are defending by default, "Hang on, don't say anything bad about him just because he's not from around here in terms of historical England,

• 1:10:43Tom Ellsworth?

  don't say anything." When you first are doubting your own citizens and protecting those other people, I get that we don't want to have, you know, racial, have immigrants come to any country and be the subject of racial persecution, but when you're defending them by default and assuming that your own people are at fault, you've lost it and England has lost it. And people are gonna get on the chat and say, "Oh, you're not over here, you haven't been over here." No, I haven't, but I can read and I can see and I can see Keir Starmer today saying, "Oh, don't protest, we want peace, don't go out and protest," and it's just, it's sick. It's sick. You've lost, you've lost the plot.

• 1:11:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, I don't want to overinflate this, but I know a lot of Sikh people. Do you know a lot of Sikhs? They're different from Indians, they're certainly different from Islamists. They actually practice something that it's almost like libertarianism. They believe in peace first and force only if necessary. So I don't know this individual situation here, I'm not gonna comment on what the kid said and I'm not just gonna defend the white kid, but I know that many Sikhs are very peaceful and I'm not gonna say passive. But don't push them. I mean, I don't know what happened here. So I'm not at any way, shape or form going after any certain community. Certainly not the Sikh community. What I will say, there's something going on in the UK.

• 1:12:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And it seems to be systemic. When you import the third world, and a lot of them are Islamists that have come from Afghanistan, or Syria, or Pakistan, and you want to turn a blind eye to whatever's happening there. And then what's the whole thing with Leslie Nielsen and the Naked Gun when the house is burning down, Vinnie? Nothing to see here. And he's like, "Nothing to see here, guys." You know, the Pakistani rape game, nothing to see here. Hey, Tommy Robinson wants to do a rally, and our friend, uh, what's our Polish friend's name? Dominic. Dominic Targinsky is not allowed in because of his views. When, when people are censored over, or arrested for, uh, social media posts, there's something, a slippery slope going on in the UK. And if you say something about it, you're deemed racist.

• 1:12:55Tom Ellsworth?

  To me, we're seeing what's going on in the UK, and in London, and in Southampton, and, and Binghamton, and all these cities right there. And it's basically saying, guys, we're probably 10 years away if we don't do something about this. And I'll just give one last point. Thank God we have Trump. Because if we had another, uh, administration that was like Biden and like Kamala, I can't even imagine what this country would look like. So thank you, President Trump, for standing up for American Western values.

• 1:13:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what my main challenge is here, Adam? My main challenge with this isn't if it's a Sikh, or Muslim, or, or whatever you want to call it. My main challenge is, while the other guy's bleeding, what are you doing not going to him to attend to him just because the other guy said, "I'm offended"? If that story is what happened, and that's what is in the reports, your first job, it doesn't matter if somebody's getting, say, the other guy's the killer, or the other guy's the, the victim. If that guy just got shot and is getting killed, you're supposed to attend to him as well to make sure he makes it. It's not like, well, you know, he's a secondhand citizen, let's just go to the other person. In this case... They're treating the kid that was going to school, middle of the night, secondhand citizen. Yeah, let him die out because he offended you. Oh, my God, we can't say anything like that.

• 1:14:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a part that becomes slippery slope where you have to make sure your citizens feel safe. If your citizens don't feel safe, then what happens? So now, how many parents are now saying, well, honey, like, imagine if your kids are good. You get this report comes out and your kid's going to Southampton University. What are you doing? What's the first thing you tell on your kid? Hey, don't go out, stay home, stay on the campus. Let's take the kids out of school, maybe come home. These are thoughts people shouldn't be having, you know, as you're going through this. When you look like you want to say something.

• 1:14:34Adam Sosnick?

  And I, because I don't think about it. White kid walking home, other kid stabs him, says whatever he said, Rob, like, I got one or what? Whatever he says, the mother shows up, gets rid of the weapon, and they have an arsenal of weapons. That is a huge problem.

• 1:14:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Gee.

• 1:14:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, and the government can't say anything, Pat, Adam, because they know that this is the result. These are the consequences of their policies, letting all these people in, okay? For whatever reason they want, votes or whatever, or to destroy the nation because that's what they want to do. This is absolute, this is the George Floyd moment, like Humberto said, of their time. That's, that's it. He's walking home. He didn't, Adam, there's no words that could come out of your mouth. And I know we have the chud, the builder story after too. There's no words that could come out of your mouth right now, that a stabbing? And then when the cops show up, they handcuff you and you're bleeding out. And the other kid goes, hey, I know I have blood on my hands, because he definitely had blood on his hands. That guy called me a terrorist or a Muslim or Islamist, whatever. No, no, there is no excuse.

• 1:15:35Adam Sosnick?

  There's no excuse, and the saddest thing, as Pat made the point, is if the government, the police and everybody are like, hey, what happened? Oh, you're dying? He called me racist. Oh, to hell with that guy, handcuff him. What? This is the same, this is the same nation, Adam, that if you are on social media. There was a gang raping in Germany. They went into this park and they raped, 11 people showed up. They were texting each other, show up and let's rape this girl. They went to court, guess who did the most jail time? A woman who found his WhatsApp and messaged him. Said, hey, you're, you're, you're a rapist, you're a pervert. She did more time. That is the freaking government. The government is protecting these people and it's disgusting. I think it's disgusting.

• 1:16:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, look, there, there was a story similar to this. I want to say in an anti-Islam protest where a kid is saying some things. This guy comes to attack him. I don't know if you have this one, Rob, or not. And this happened in the States. Uh, uh, uh, let me see this one here. Where was this at? Tragic moment in Mannheim attack or Mannheim attack and Afghan attacks and uh, anti-Islam rally. An onsite police officer rushes in and pins to the ground. An anti-Islam activist. The police officer is then stabbed to death in the throat by the terrorist whom he has turned his back on. Watch the picture go a little bit lower. That's, that's how he died. Okay, of course, you're blurring the whole thing out.

• 1:16:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is, this is stuff that you just gotta be aware of, that this doesn't show up here. Safety is super, super critical. We can't lose our common sense. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to talk about is another one of these interesting stories. So James Comey is being asked by the interview. I actually thought it was a great sequencing of question, saying, why did you not accept a pardon? If, if President Trump was to give you a pardon back in 2018, would you have accepted it? He said, no. She says, why? He goes on to teach her the history of pardons and what it means if you accept a pardon. Watch this here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:17:40Patrick Bet-David?

  President Biden for a preemptive pardon as Trump was coming back into office? Never. Do you think he would have given you one if he'd asked? Did you ever think about asking President Biden for a preemptive pardon as Trump was coming back into office?

• 1:17:52Speaker 07

  Never.

• 1:17:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he would have given you one if he'd asked?

• 1:17:56Speaker 07

  I don't know, I wouldn't have accepted it. Supreme Court said in 1914 that the acceptance of a pardon is an admission of guilt. It's what consoled Gerald Ford when he pardoned Richard Nixon.

• 1:18:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He carried a quote from the case in his wallet till the day he died because it meant Nixon had admitted guilt. And so I'm not guilty. I am innocent. So I wouldn't be accepting any pardons.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  Do you think the people that Biden did preemptively pardon are guilty of crimes?

• 1:18:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh oh. Well, I'm just telling you what the Supreme Court said. By accepting a pardon, it's an admission of guilt. And so I hope they thought about it carefully. Interesting. So now Fauci accepted a pardon.

• 1:18:30Adam Sosnick?

  Asked for clemency and then got a pardon.

• 1:18:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So let me ask you, Comey, so is he guilty? Based on your assessment, he's guilty, right? And then so a whistleblower comes out that was working with Fauci and the video clip shows that this person claiming, Rob, do you have the clip with where this fellow comes out talking about that he worked with Fauci and this is it.

• 1:18:52Adam Sosnick?

  James Erdman III.

• 1:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, folks. Watch this. Go ahead.

• 1:18:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Public health policy would have been very different had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for an emergency use authorization mRNA products being mandated by the former administration.

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• 1:21:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Dr. Fauci's role in the cover up was intentional. Dr. Fauci influenced the analytical process and findings by leveraging his position to ensure the IC consulted with a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts, public health, health officials and scientists. This included some of the authors of the paper, the proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2 and other public health experts who have been in his orbit for the last 20 plus years. Vinny, thoughts?

• 1:21:53Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I mean, so this is why Americans, and I know the majority of the people out there, Pat, that are listening, that are dealing with this are furious. Okay. And I, and it's almost as if it was 20 years ago, some people were acting like it. This was a couple of years ago. Businesses shut down, people lost jobs, careers destroyed, families divided, loss of friends, loss of family members, people dealing with all these sicknesses and all this turbo cancer and everything now, and people are asking, why? The, the main question, why did Fauci push so hard to steer everybody away from the lab leak theory? That's, that's the main thing, Pat. Why? Was it because the NIH funding connected the gain of function?

• 1:22:35Adam Sosnick?

  Ended up in Wuhan with Eco Health Alliance that we owned. We owned that that thing. It was open during Obama. You know what I mean? Or was it because admitting the lab leak would expose the years of all the funding? The relationships, the careers, the connections? And then some people are going darker, Pat. A lot of people out there believe that this leak might have been deliberate. Okay, look at the funding, look at the pharmaceutical profits, Pat. They made a trillion dollars on all this stuff. The speed of the vaccine rollout and then the billions made during the pandemic. And people believe that powerful people protected each other while the public suffered. Okay, and then you find out that he was begging for clemency. He gets a preemptive pardon, okay? And like you showed the the the James Comey thing.

• 1:23:19Adam Sosnick?

  It's just like, what do we do, Pat? As the American public, what do we do with someone like Fauci? I'm not saying doing anything physical, anything stupid like that. But think about this, people, for the people out there that lost a mother. That couldn't go even see her because of his made up draconian laws that they made during the pandemic. Or or if you're out there and you have a child that God forbid was playing a sport and they collapse and their heart stopped. Or right now you have children that are that are suffering from myocarditis, which I did the research. They don't live that long, okay? They don't live that long. So what do people do about this time? Because it's clearly, it's blatantly obvious. These people at the top are protected at the highest level. Preemptive pardon?

• 1:24:01Adam Sosnick?

  And I, listen, I am not a fan of Comey by by the least, okay? I know he's one of these deep state actors, all the Russia collusion, everything. He's, he is not good for the country, but at least in this moment, he's being honest. If you're innocent, you don't need a pardon. But to beg the president for clemency and then you get the preemptive pardon. You're, you're, this is doctor, you're a Dr. Fauci, okay? This is Chris Cuomo's buddy, his pal. Okay, the amount of destruction and death that he did, Pat, something has to happen to this guy. I don't know if in the courts or find a way, because he's walking around scot-free for the rest of his life. Okay, he needs to pay for all the suffering and all the pain that's happened to these people. Because if the public stops paying attention to this.

• 1:24:45Adam Sosnick?

  type of stuff Pat and we let it go nothing's ever gonna change ever what's to stop them again what's to stop them from this hanta virus blowing up and they do the same exact thing so I'm sorry it just drives me crazy

• 1:24:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom thoughts

• 1:24:57Tom Ellsworth?

  so I have a couple thoughts

• 1:24:59Patrick Bet-David?

  before I come to you here's a DOJ by the way I'm gonna come to you because I wanna I wanna go on what Vinnie said on what the DOJ is thinking about doing right now they're weighing they're weighing new criminal case against Fauci despite Biden's auto pen pardon and statute of limitations running out so this just do you have a Fox News clip on this Rob or

• 1:25:14Tom Ellsworth?

  it's quick but here

• 1:25:15Patrick Bet-David?

  go for it

• 1:25:15Tom Ellsworth?

  please

• 1:25:16Speaker 07

  Fauci might be swimming in the same pool one of his top guys was indicted for a covid cover up now the DOJ is eyeing a new criminal case against Anthony even though auto pen gave him a pardon hope you got your floaties doc and this just in a covid 19 whistleblower an active CIA employee will be testifying tomorrow in

• 1:25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  so so they're they're already thinking about different ways of getting him if they do or not that James Comey clip is so beautiful and so annoying for so many people at the right and you know you think when he was saying that he was thinking he was talking he was thinking about Fauci you think and by the way that girl that asked the question who do you think he's talking about

• 1:25:56Tom Ellsworth?

  she has to know

• 1:25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  no who do you think Comey was talking about in that interview when he says yeah I didn't accept it because I'm not guilty so who was the first person he was trying to make a claim that's not guilty himself

• 1:26:07Tom Ellsworth?

  of course

• 1:26:07Patrick Bet-David?

  but who else is he talking about

• 1:26:08Tom Ellsworth?

  he's talking about Hunter because remember him he injected himself quite about I think he's thinking about a lot of people but I think one of them he's thinking about it's gotta be Hunter that was because you listened to all the leaks and everything that come out they even the people around Biden were like my gosh you know this is such a you know here we go again because Hunter wasn't political they couldn't do anything with him he wasn't he wasn't FDA he wasn't anything

• 1:26:34Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah

• 1:26:34Tom Ellsworth?

  he was this pain in the neck thing that kept generating headlines and and disgust and so I think he was thinking about people like that saying you went all this time selling oh I was just a consultant for energy company then you took the you took the pardon I think there's some coding come in there because I don't think Comey was 100% Biden he was 100% Comey

• 1:26:55Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you think, pal? Who do you think he was talking about? Because I mean, the whole family was pardoned for all their dealings.

• 1:27:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think it's subtle reminders to say, watch who Trump's gonna pardon. Because remember, Trump said on 250 year anniversary, he's gonna pardon 250 people.

• 1:27:11Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you remember when he said this?

• 1:27:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you pull this up? I think the president, didn't he say that? I thought he said that. Maybe he didn't say that. The president allegedly said, yeah, Trump says explore 250 pardons on America's 250 year birthday. So why is Comey saying it now? So to me, I think Comey was saying that to get ahead of the fact that the president's gonna pardon 250 people. And the reporter asked a question Comey was not expecting. And that's when Comey immediately, it's like, I don't know about that. All I can tell you is the fact that in 1914, this is why they did the pardon that, you know, Gerald Ford would go around in his wallet because he knew that Nixon was guilty. So he's, he's comparing Nixon to who? To Trump. And then the reporter asked the right question, even though she didn't want to ask the question. You know, she didn't want to ask the question. She asked the right question. Well, how about the other people that?

• 1:27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And then it's like, oh, I don't know about that, but I know about Trump. So I think that's kind of where he's going. So if, if they end up finding, if, if the presidents, if they end up finding a way to go and investigate what happened with Fauci, I cannot tell you how much the trust in the DOJ and the FBI is gonna go up for finally doing their job. If you want to increase credibility and people trusting the DOJ and the FBI again, go tell us what happened during COVID. Tom?

• 1:28:26Tom Ellsworth?

  So I think what's remarkable about in all this, first of all, people that were so terribly persecuted, the doctor we had on, I just blanked on him real quick. Robert Malone.

• 1:28:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Malone.

• 1:28:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, Robert Malone. And people like Mary Tally, Mary Tally Bowden, who's in Houston, and she just wrote a book, Dangerous Misinformation. She was down there in, in Texas, in a red state, getting absolutely pilloried, you know, for her position. So these people are able to come back in the light of day and say, I was right, first of all. Second of all, we now, everyone knows it started in the Wuhan lab. It leaked out from there, whether it was intentional or not, is chapter two. We know that all the data was manipulated now. Now we know that. And we know that, that Fauci actually funded and at least knew memorandums with his name on them about gain-of-function research.

• 1:29:22Tom Ellsworth?

  So now we know all that. And then guess what? The thing that really bugs me right now is with all of that, the mainstream media is seeing this as an us versus them, and they don't want to give anybody the W. And so the mainstream media is playing the game of, "Well, if we knew then what we know now." It's like, no!

• 1:29:43Adam Sosnick?

  No, you knew-

• 1:29:44Tom Ellsworth?

  You don't get to do that. You don't get to do that, because at the time, there was ample information that was out there. They could have raised the seeds of doubt. Did you have perfect information? No. But you didn't have perfect information, and you were slaughtering people and impugning their careers, and people were getting discharged from the military, serving honorably and getting no pensions. All of this stuff happened. You had enough information to stop that from happening, while saying, "Hey, we don't know everything, but we don't think service people should be dishonorably discharged and lose their pension over this for crying out loud." There was more than enough to know that. And so, right now, I see this, I hope, for the sake of history, that they find a way

• 1:30:28Tom Ellsworth?

  to persecute the guilty here. I hope they find a way to do that, Pat. That's my opinion. Because the news media, just sitting there, "Oh, if we knew then what we knew now," I think is really disingenuous, and now we've seen all the things I just mentioned that turned out to be correct.

• 1:30:45Adam Sosnick?

  And it drives me crazy, Tom, when you have people like Josh Hawley and all them, they come out of these hearings, that the CIA whistleblower comes out, it's all credible, all checks out, and they're like, "Yeah, man, he did this and he did that." Okay, now what? Now what? Besides the pardon, they have to find a way, Tom, because think about it. His two crimes, fraudulent concealment, he lied. He knew he was lying from the beginning, and he hindered the discovery of where this came from-

• 1:31:11Tom Ellsworth?

  He testified to Congress about it, that he did not participate in, he did not know, and he did not fund gain-of-function research, and now we know that the only thing that we're not 100% sure of is, did he know?

• 1:31:21Adam Sosnick?

  Tom-

• 1:31:22Tom Ellsworth?

  But he funded it, and his name is on memorandum. So let's say, two out of three-

• 1:31:26Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:31:27Tom Ellsworth?

  -you were involved in gain-of-function research!

• 1:31:28Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, for sure, and lied the entire time, and then, Tom, you know what the biggest one is? Mass negligent homicide. How many people died because you lied? You're a liar and then you promoted knowingly pushed unsafe vaccines on people. And was in the president's ear like, hey, listen, we could do this, we could do it less than here. Come on, you'll look good. And of course, the president's gonna listen to him. Of course, you want to.

• 1:31:51Patrick Bet-David?

  The subsequent fallout was criminally prosecutable. And it hasn't been.

• 1:31:55Adam Sosnick?

  And Tom, we and all, oh, my God, the died suddenly, the people falling. And what they're discovering in Americans about people around the world. It's disgusting and I, Pat, can you imagine walking around? And you know that your family, you've lost family members because of the lies and the decisions that this one man made.

• 1:32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, again, I do think I, this is all progress on what's happening. And Comey is the president, the assistant to the president needs to show that to the president. And say, Mr. President, did you see this video? And the president will come and comment about it. And say, hey, he said this, if he's saying this, well, what are you saying with this? Because it is a form of taking a shot at the president. President, his team's gonna bring this information to him. Adam, do you have any thoughts on?

• 1:32:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I'll just be real quick. I'm with Vinnie on this, especially on why you're passionate about it. And I'll explain why. Because the one word that we go back to is accountability. And when there's no accountability and you're not held responsible for your actions. If you did something wrong, then there's a collapse of trust. We know how important trust is, trust is a currency. And if you did something wrong and there's no consequences to your actions and there's no justice. And there's perceived or actual abuse of power. And you get away with doing something wrong. What's gonna happen is this, people are gonna get really fricking frustrated.

• 1:33:18Adam Sosnick?

  Good, I am.

• 1:33:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Like you are.

• 1:33:19Adam Sosnick?

  I am.

• 1:33:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And I understand your frustration. And again, I'm not saying that he did or didn't do anything wrong, either one of them.

• 1:33:25Adam Sosnick?

  He's telling you to lie in Congress and he lied.

• 1:33:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm with you. I'm just saying in general, why some, why people, why you, why us are upset is for that lack of accountability.

• 1:33:36Patrick Bet-David?

  When you think someone did something wrong and it's so blatant and out in the open and you're like, are you kidding me?

• 1:33:41Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it drives me crazy.

• 1:33:42Patrick Bet-David?

  It drives you crazy. And I understand that. I empathize with you on that. All right, let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get to has to do with a movie that's coming out called Odyssey. I don't know if you guys have been seeing this or not. So this movie Odyssey, okay, that's coming out. And if you go to the cast, the criticism that it even got the attention of Elon Musk, that's like, what the hell are these guys doing? Go a little bit lower, Rob, to the cast to see who's in it. How stacked this is. Matt Damon, Tom Holland, Anne Hathaway, Robert Pattinson, Lupita Nyong'o, okay? Zendaya, Charlize Theron, Jon Bernthal, the great Jon Bernthal, and then you have Elliot Page, right?

• 1:34:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And Rob, the critic, and by the way, John Leguizamo, I mean, it's kind of like, it's loaded with the people that are in this flick, loaded. And biggest criticism came, what is this story really all about? Tom, what's the Odyssey about?

• 1:34:39Adam Sosnick?

  The movie, what they made it about?

• 1:34:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, what is the original story, the audio? It's what, what, what area of the world?

• 1:34:47Adam Sosnick?

  It's about the, it's about the emergence in Greece.

• 1:34:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, can you imagine you make a movie about the emergence of Greece and not a single person you cast as Greek? Well, wait a minute, what are we talking about here? So what's more important on who to cast? Then on top of that, Rob, who is allegedly going to be playing, can you go to it? Who is playing, is that the Elliot Page one?

• 1:35:09Adam Sosnick?

  Helen, oh, there's rumors that she's gonna play, well, he, she, whatever, whatever's happening in her, his life is gonna play Achilles.

• 1:35:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Elliot Page is gonna play Achilles?

• 1:35:20Adam Sosnick?

  Elliot Page, there's rumors that she, he is going to play Achilles.

• 1:35:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Who played, who played Achilles in Troy?

• 1:35:26Adam Sosnick?

  Brad Pitt.

• 1:35:27Patrick Bet-David?

  How did Achilles look? How did Brad Pitt look in Troy?

• 1:35:30Adam Sosnick?

  Like a freaking warrior.

• 1:35:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you, can you put that up?

• 1:35:32Adam Sosnick?

  Made some that question their sexuality, Patrick.

• 1:35:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. I converted to that guy one year after that movie. Look at this. That's Brad Pitt. Does he look like somebody you would depict as being Troy, being Achilles? Yes. Okay, now can you go to, to the? The other fellow or girl or you know.

• 1:35:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Whatever's happening.

• 1:35:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Liquid, what do they call it, all this stuff, yeah.

• 1:35:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, God.

• 1:35:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is who's supposed to play. Uh, that's who's supposed to play.

• 1:35:56Tom Ellsworth?

  She's got great abs.

• 1:35:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So, so then Elon Musk commented on this, Rob, what did Elon Musk say about this? In this movie, what was Elon's comments on the bottom, look at this. Why is Christopher Nolan, like many other directors, so keen to race swap white characters? Quotas and rewards, right? And if you look at the right there, 2024, yes, starting with the 96 Academy Awards, there's a mandatory diversity requirement for films to be eligible for Best Picture category. Films must meet two of four new representation and inclusion standards covering on-screen representation, creative leadership, industry, actress or audience development. Elon Musk on the bottom, he wants awards. He wants the awards and that's it. So when you see this, where do you go with this, Adam?

• 1:36:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, you know, I'm the least movie guy. It's funny that you're coming to me now, but this whole revisionist history of The Little Mermaid's Now Black and Snow White. White, as Tom likes to say, is now, what, next thing you know, they're gonna cast MLK and Matt Damon's gonna be playing MLK. This revisionist history of actual, uh, white people. Listen, you wanna move the needle a little bit, you wanna be controversial, you wanna shake things up, that's cool. But when you're as, as, what did Elon Musk say? Uh, you're, you're, uh, what did he say about white people was the term he used exactly? Race swapping. Race swapping. It just becomes like, at some point, and look, I'm not the, the guy that's gonna go crazy about movies. At some point, we're like, okay.

• 1:37:22Tom Ellsworth?

  So all the Greek people.

• 1:37:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you ask the question?

• 1:37:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Brad Pitt.

• 1:37:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Anybody go watch this movie? Just ask, will you go watch the movie? Let's see what the audience is gonna say. I think, I think 10 to 20% will go watch the movie.

• 1:37:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think the cast is ridiculous and, and, and much like anything, you wanna do something like, if you're, let, what, what, by the way, find out what other movies Christopher Nolan has done, because apparently.

• 1:37:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Nolan is a legend.

• 1:37:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I know. A legend.

• 1:37:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Nolan is loaded.

• 1:37:48Tom Ellsworth?

  You're coming after me because I wanna find out the movies.

• 1:37:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, he is.

• 1:37:52Tom Ellsworth?

  He's done some incredible movies, but he's shifting with the times. He's basically saying, oh, I need a trans person to in order to win an award. Let's get a trans person. I think what people are upset about is that you're replacing freaking Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt with this dude.

• 1:38:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I was right.

• 1:38:10Adam Sosnick?

  Did you see the clip of the?

• 1:38:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty-eight percent said they'll go watch the movie.

• 1:38:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Really?

• 1:38:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Twelve percent said no. And in the comment section, a bunch of people said, hell nah.

• 1:38:17Adam Sosnick?

  Hell nah.

• 1:38:18Tom Ellsworth?

  But didn't you say it would be flipped a little bit?

• 1:38:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty-eight percent said they will not go watch the movie.

• 1:38:23Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, is this some AI of Ellen Page being Brad Pitt here?

• 1:38:26Adam Sosnick?

  Did you see this?

• 1:38:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this AI?

• 1:38:28Adam Sosnick?

  This is AI.

• 1:38:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, is there a video?

• 1:38:31Patrick Bet-David?

  How bad is it? Inappropriate or?

• 1:38:32Adam Sosnick?

  No, I mean.

• 1:38:33Tom Ellsworth?

  She's gonna get slaughtered right now.

• 1:38:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we even play this?

• 1:38:38Adam Sosnick?

  If it's AI, I think.

• 1:38:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, this guy's not AI.

• 1:38:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I remember this scene. I remember this scene. He comes running at him.

• 1:38:46Adam Sosnick?

  Come on, Elliot. You got this.

• 1:38:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. He goes right past his head, poof.

• 1:38:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man, there it is. Directed by Michael Bay. But you remember that scene in the movie with Brad Pitt?

• 1:38:59Adam Sosnick?

  He broke his, you know, do you know a fun fact? In that scene where Brad Pitt jumps and stabs that guy in the neck?

• 1:39:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:04Adam Sosnick?

  He breaks his ankle and they had to stop shooting for months.

• 1:39:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Brad Pitt broke his ankle?

• 1:39:08Adam Sosnick?

  Google Brad.

• 1:39:09Tom Ellsworth?

  You're telling me that he?

• 1:39:10Adam Sosnick?

  Brad Pitt broke, actual.

• 1:39:11Tom Ellsworth?

  He tore his Achilles. Are you kidding me?

• 1:39:12Adam Sosnick?

  Actually breaks his ankle in that scene. And Rob, yeah, Rob.

• 1:39:16Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that's why people are upset is because you're gonna replace Brad Pitt.

• 1:39:19Adam Sosnick?

  While filming Brad Pitt injured his Achilles tendon, I'm sorry. Not his ankle, his Achilles tendon, so.

• 1:39:24Tom Ellsworth?

  That's when life imitates art or art imitates. Are you gonna go see this movie? You're gonna see this movie, Ben?

• 1:39:30Adam Sosnick?

  I'll watch it when it comes out on Netflix.

• 1:39:32Tom Ellsworth?

  But you're gonna walk out when Ellen Page comes on TV.

• 1:39:34Adam Sosnick?

  But yeah, but yeah, but here's my thing. He's getting hammered because he casted Lupita Nyong'o as Helen of Troy. Okay, and what they're saying is he wants, like, Christopher Nolan is one of my favorites. He's in the top five of all time, but they're bringing up, and I'm happy you brought up that tweet, Pat, the Academy's diversity requirements. For Best Picture, you have to have, you know, standards of, you know, certain races, gender, sexuality, disability, underrepresented groups. It's like, leave it historically alone, okay? And let's just be clear, I think Lupita. She's a beautiful human being, okay? She's talented, she's a great actress, okay? The issue is accuracy. If Hollywood casted Ryan Gosling as Shaka Zulu,

• 1:40:18Adam Sosnick?

  they would burn down the studio before the trailer even aired. But when it happens to Greek and European figures, suddenly the accuracy becomes problematic. And can we show Pat? Sunny Hostin, which from The View, who by the way, just a little backstory, you guys remember, she found out last year that she is a descendant of slave owners. Just let me just remind everybody that. Look at how she's defending by casting Lupita, and she brings up Black Athena, a book, and says that Helena Troy could have been black. Go ahead, Rob.

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  can do more with base 44 describe what you want in plain language and build a site where people can book with you or buy from you payments data security and hosting are all built in go to base 44.com this idea was also explored in a book called black athena I think people should read it which argues that classical Greek culture is heavily indebted to Afroasiatic and Near Eastern roots I actually taught Greek mythology to eighth graders and so I covered this so people that are saying that Helen of Troy could not possibly be played by a black woman don't know history

• 1:43:00Adam Sosnick?

  by the way those eighth graders that she taught are probably adults now and they're walking around thinking Medusa was a Puerto Rican and worked at a nail salon in LeBron

• 1:43:09Tom Ellsworth?

  and she's here on the view still spewing mythology

• 1:43:13Adam Sosnick?

  and here's the thing

• 1:43:15Tom Ellsworth?

  so I want to say something with Christopher Nolan Christopher Nolan Pat and I one of the most favorite movies that we've seen we love historicals with the duck but 10 years ago we saw Dunkirk and Dunkirk Christopher Nolan cast people that look like British people people that look like Germans people that look like the French Dunkirk was brilliantly done the storylines that were threaded through it it was magnificent 2017 now here we are 2026 almost 2027 and look what he had to do he willingly did it and Christopher if you're listening come on man you know you you just went with the program that to be

• 1:43:57Tom Ellsworth?

  in line to get Academy Awards you had to check these boxes and so that's what you did to make your movie and by the way that may have been what the studio or the distributor said hey make sure you do these things because we want to get the Academy Award and we want to get this too so Chris the movie's got to be like this so unless he's a private billionaire funding it all on him on his own this is what it is and but what kills me is the fact that look at those two things Dunkirk our historical book and this is about Odyssey about the guy goes on the tenure The journey, the emergence of Greek after the Trojan War and his wife and the kid have to fight.

• 1:44:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Out of all the stories, this is the one that was gonna piss Tom off.

• 1:44:38Adam Sosnick?

  Piss Tom off.

• 1:44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Never guessed.

• 1:44:39Adam Sosnick?

  Well, cuz you know they're racing white people, they're racing white men.

• 1:44:42Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's not it. If you're gonna make it, if you're gonna make historical thematic.

• 1:44:47Patrick Bet-David?

  This is serious stuff, Tom.

• 1:44:48Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, if Ellen Page plays Tom Ellsworth in the movie, we're gonna have a major problem. Yeah, but if you, and if you think about it, Pat, Helen of Troy was a Greek figure from where, Tom? Sparta. Troy. The Sparta, described by Greek writers as the idea of Greek beauty. And by the way, for Sunny Hassan, ancient, she's a freaking Greek mythology major, ancient Greek art and literature consistently portrayed noble Greek women with fair skin, Mediterranean European features, and often lighter hair. Okay, I taught eighth graders, I'm, stop.

• 1:45:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, you said all these things, let's move on to a, a fun fact story which ended up bad. This is one of the most interesting things in the history of movies for me. You know the movie Gladiator?

• 1:45:32Adam Sosnick?

  One of my favorites.

• 1:45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you know the guy Oliver Reed, who played Proximo?

• 1:45:36Adam Sosnick?

  I love him.

• 1:45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who he is, you know who he is.

• 1:45:37Adam Sosnick?

  One of the best.

• 1:45:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what happened to him? Do you know what happened to him?

• 1:45:40Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 1:45:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know the story? Seriously, you guys don't know what happened to him? Um, it's so, it's such an interesting, so Oliver Reed, one of the greatest actors of all time, plays Proximo in Gladiator. Go to the picture, Rob, of him playing the Proximo and.

• 1:45:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Great actor.

• 1:45:54Patrick Bet-David?

  While they were shooting the movie, the movie is not done yet, he goes to a local pub, he competes with these Brits to see who can drink more. He ends up beating them, but dies trying to be.

• 1:46:05Tom Ellsworth?

  No way, he died.

• 1:46:06Adam Sosnick?

  Like alcohol poisoning? No, alcohol poisoning?

• 1:46:09Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy drank so much, ends up having a heart attack and he dies and, and the movie that was being made, this was pre all the scenes being shot, the producer had to go back, Ridley Scott, the director, had to go back and use CGI to have the movie be done. The story of Oliver Reed. By the way, how phenomenal of a job did he do in this movie?

• 1:46:31Adam Sosnick?

  I want everybody out there to just go on YouTube and do this, find the scene when he's talking to Russell Crowe and he's like, he's like, when you get the, he's like, there, there, there's screams, he's like, it's, it's like a storm. He is such a phenomenal actor.

• 1:46:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Win the crowd, win your freedom.

• 1:46:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Marcus Aurelius, touch me.

• 1:46:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Marcus Aurelius.

• 1:46:49Adam Sosnick?

  You knew Marcus Aurelius. He goes, no.

• 1:46:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't say that.

• 1:46:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I said he touched me on the shoulder once. Look at what he drank, guys.

• 1:46:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Knew me.

• 1:46:55Adam Sosnick?

  He challenged a group of sailors, downed eight pints of beer,

• 1:46:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:46:59Adam Sosnick?

  12 shots of rum, half a bottle of whiskey, and shots of cognac. That's like Tom's Friday night. But listen, shortly after he collapsed.

• 1:47:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't drink cognac. Everything else is active. Pretty interesting.

• 1:47:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Bless the bong.

• 1:47:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, listen, he allegedly had drinking issues his entire life, but this happened in Malta.

• 1:47:15Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 1:47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And if there was one guy that you, and by the way, what's interesting, no one talked about it publicly. It's like, you didn't know this story. How many times have you seen Gladiator?

• 1:47:24Tom Ellsworth?

  100 times.

• 1:47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, so.

• 1:47:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Opening scene is ridiculous.

• 1:47:27Adam Sosnick?

  100? I think.

• 1:47:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I, number one, this is tragic, and I mean, it's been such a long time. I think we can make an inappropriate joke. He tried to, he tried to win the crowd.

• 1:47:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:38Tom Ellsworth?

  And lost his freedom.

• 1:47:39Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 1:47:40Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, you're not doing that unless you're trying to like, look cool in front of all the people.

• 1:47:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna say, and that's why you're not a comedian also, okay? And we're all amateur comedians, okay? You, all of us on this thing, there's only one person here that's a comedian that gets paid for it.

• 1:47:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom Ellsworth.

• 1:47:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's Vincent O'Shaughnessy, okay? The rest of us are all.

• 1:47:56Tom Ellsworth?

  That, that wasn't supposed to be.

• 1:47:57Adam Sosnick?

  Rob gets paid too.

• 1:47:58Tom Ellsworth?

  That wasn't supposed to be funny.

• 1:48:00Adam Sosnick?

  Rob is a comedian.

• 1:48:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, it, it.

• 1:48:03Tom Ellsworth?

  No pants.

• 1:48:04Patrick Bet-David?

  There's, in the house, in the house, when you become a father and you have kids and you tell jokes, there's not a worse crowd than your kids. If you can make your kids laugh, you're winning. Tom knows how to make my kids laugh. When Tom tells jokes, his daughters are like, dad. I've heard that 1700 times. Uh, let's go to next story. Let's go, let's go to next story. Then there's such thing as, uh, I'm trying to see, do I go into this or not? Let's go into this next, let's talk about, uh, and it's like, everybody's taking shots at Daily Wire. It's like, every other day, it's a new story. And Tom, you circled that you wanted to talk about this, and Vinnie, I know you got a lot of thoughts on this, and Adam, you too. Why Ben Shapiro's media empire is collapsing, okay? So now, to be fair, this is from who, Rob? This is from New York.

• 1:48:48Tom Ellsworth?

  New York, New York Magazine.

• 1:48:49Patrick Bet-David?

  It's fair to say that they are not fans of Ben Wi, uh, Ben Wire.

• 1:48:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Liberal fish trap.

• 1:48:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire. So let's, let's read what's in this here and what they're talking about. There was a time not long ago that Ben Shapiro could reasonably call himself the king of all conservative media. Shapiro himself was ubiquitous, a right-wing star who had risen to fame before Donald Trump and seamlessly adopted the MAGA takeover Republicans. He was a digital battering ram against the Democrats and the progressive left. That's all over. The Daily Wire is instituting significant layoffs at its website. Okay, we read that already. There are Daily Wire YouTube videos now that are few days online and have less than 10,000 views. A catastrophically small number for a channel with more than 3 million subscribers. If a variety of poor business decisions can be blamed in part

• 1:49:37Patrick Bet-David?

  for Daily Wire's downfall, ill-fated investment in feature films, an epic fantasy series, a peculiar merchandise, the greater stories of the collapse of Shapiro's constituency... constituency. ...among the young... Silhouette. Among the young American consumers who once fueled the Daily Wire. Listen, my English is getting better daily. Shapiro, who was an Orthodox Jew, is fiercely pro- Ben Shapiro's Jewish? Yes, yeah. Stop it. His support- I had no idea. Okay, so here's what they're saying about Daily Wire. And by the way, you know, sometimes when you are the best at what you do and then you fall, they love attacking

• 1:50:20Patrick Bet-David?

  you. And it's just something that comes with the territory. We all remember all the videos. Every video would go how? This is how the titles of Ben Shapiro's videos were. You ready? Ben Shapiro Destroys. Yes. If you type in Ben Shapiro Destroys on YouTube, how many videos will you see? God knows how many videos are gonna say Ben Shapiro Destroys, Ben Shapiro Destroys. So, Tom, is there a complete... I have one thought that I want to share with this. But what are your thoughts on what's happening with these guys? And can they recover? Well, first of all, New York Magazine needs to write about something. And to go after a conservative, that's at the top of the list at their editorial meeting when they hand out their assignments and what people are gonna do. So you don't surprise...

• 1:51:01Patrick Bet-David?

  you don't get surprised by this, that there's conservative media, if those two words are connected you in some way, New York Magazine and the liberal fish-

• 1:51:09Tom Ellsworth?

  ...that it is are gonna come after you. Okay, great. Well, what's going on here is they're attempting to admit what I, which got a little triggered in the story, was in the midst of this, you know, recycle of, yeah, okay. You know, Daily Wire's had allegedly some subscriber issues and are laying off some people. That's been well-covered. And then in the middle of it, they say, oh, this could be bad news for conservative media. They are trying to get themselves all up in a cheering mode, Pat, to say, could this be a sign that we've jumped the shark? You know, the old, the old statement about ratings on TV and media referring to when

• 1:51:50Tom Ellsworth?

  the ancient comedy series Happy Days where Fonzie jumps the shark, you know, and that the ratings moved and shifted after that. So, they are actively hoping that this is a jump-the-shark moment for conservative media and that the other crowd of, quote, "anti-Semitic groypers led by Fuentes" are seemingly in ascendance. And Candace Owen, who worked once with Shapiro, now boasts a YouTube channel larger than his. They're actively hoping that we're all self-destructing. But what they're missing, what they're missing is that liberals don't have a product worth buying.

• 1:52:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And that conservatives that are out here processing things, people are watching. And whether you're on one side or the other, and I don't deny, and it's out there to see, that there are two sides in conservative media. There is the pro-Israel ones, and there's the ones who are hard anti-Israel. And then there's people in the middle, like us, that are trying to process and trying to get people to think about things and these norms. So, that's what got me on this story, Pat, about New York Magazine. Is, I think what, the cheering that you see in it is, is this, is this a tipping point for all conservative media? And the answer is, no, it's not. And, you know what? You wanna go look at the number of shows that are conservative, where they're ranked and where you're ranked? You know, come on. It's, that's, this isn't what's happening.

• 1:53:19Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, I used to be a huge fan of Ben Shapiro, if you guys recall. When he was sitting in front of Piers Morgan and it was the, I forgot which school shooting and he brings out, you know, he goes, "I think you're standing on the dead graves of the children" and he put the freaking Constitution, like those were moments and Piers looked like he was gonna have a heart attack. But that was the old Ben, Pat, debating, going in front of, like he was doing what Charlie was doing. You know, facts don't care about your feelings. Everybody that uses that quote today, it's because of Ben. Ben Shapiro was a guy. He was there, he was fire, he was doing it. And then, you know, October 7th happens and let's just be honest with each other. This shit, it was just, if you don't agree with Israel and my thoughts, then guess what?

• 1:54:00Adam Sosnick?

  You're an idiot and you're dumb and people don't like to be lectured to. Mind you, this is his audience. This is his audience. The subscribers are dropping like crazy, social media, everything. And then, you fire one of your biggest stars because she disagrees with your point? And mind you, facts don't care about your feelings and debate, and then you fire her. Like publicly and it's ugly. And then Brett Cooper, your number two, she leaves and she does her own thing. And then you have people inside, you know, producers trying to create stuff and I get that. And you know, you have Matt Walsh and you have Michael Knowles doing their thing and you know, success with the documentaries and stuff. But you know, people don't like that. People don't like, like Americans don't like to be lectured to and then when you have your opinion

• 1:54:44Adam Sosnick?

  or you don't agree, they're stupid. You're dumb, you don't know what you're talking about. It's unattractive, okay? And can I just say one last thing, Matt? You can always, we talk about this how many times? Recreating yourself. We did the, the survey. There's certain points that I already know and I'm already working on it to be more clear or to do this or to do that. You have to recreate yourself. Go back to being the old Ben. That's what people want. People like that. And maybe even, Pat, I trim my eyebrows because I'm Middle Eastern. Trim them up! Do like a sexy.

• 1:55:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's because of the eyebrows.

• 1:55:14Adam Sosnick?

  I'm telling, I'm telling you right now, if he does like a sexy.

• 1:55:17Patrick Bet-David?

  The whole thing is his eyebrows.

• 1:55:17Adam Sosnick?

  If his eyebrows get trimmed, then he, I know a guy that could edge them up.

• 1:55:23Adam Sosnick?

  I'm just saying.

• 1:55:23Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not a.

• 1:55:24Adam Sosnick?

  That's not.

• 1:55:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not lying.

• 1:55:25Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, they're very bushy.

• 1:55:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:55:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:29Patrick Bet-David?

  There was some ridiculous eyebrow people in Glendale.

• 1:55:31Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, my God, I know. I saw one guy.

• 1:55:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Sveta, Sveta, I can refer him to. There's like a gay guy named Bijan who was great with eyebrows. Like, there are referrals. Go ahead, Adam. Your thoughts.

• 1:55:42Adam Sosnick?

  Well, Ben's had those eyebrows.

• 1:55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Bijan, send a DM to him.

• 1:55:46Adam Sosnick?

  Ben Shapiro. Look, as, as, since October 7th and since Ben defended Israel and his ratings and his favorability have plummeted, there's a direct correlation between people that defend Israel and their views, straight up. There's also a direct correlation with people that are anti-Israel, and the more they talk about Israel, their views go up, i.e. Tucker, i.e. Candace. Now, if you ever watched Ben's show, Ben has not changed at all. You talk about reinventing yourself. Ben hasn't shifted one belief, one ideology. Everything he's

• 1:56:26Adam Sosnick?

  saying today is everything that he stood for before. But I do have an idea for Ben. I believe the Tucker ship has sailed. I don't think Tucker, in a million years, would sit down with Ben. I think Ben would run circles around Tucker. I think he looks at Candace as a, almost like a joke at this point, but here's my idea for Ben. Debate Nick Fuentes. Because Nick's been trying to knock down your door. Nick's career has basically ascended because of you. You sort of alluded to this recently. I think he owes it to himself. I think he owes it to the audience to give this kid, that as obnoxious as you think the kid is, he's a talented guy. Steven Crowder, who I have immense respect for, has sat down

• 1:57:11Adam Sosnick?

  with Nick Fuentes, Nick Fuentes twice. I've sat down with Nick Fuentes. You've sat down with Nick Fuentes. Now, if Ben doesn't want to do it, Nick, debate a guy named Shabbos Kesselbaum. Okay? Because they say that he's the new Ben Shapiro, and he's super talented. It seems to me.

• 1:57:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Ben, for whatever reason, is avoiding Nick. Honestly, it's probably because he thinks it's beneath him. And he thinks that he's been punching down, and I understand that.

• 1:57:36Adam Sosnick?

  You think that?

• 1:57:37Tom Ellsworth?

  But Nick is also avoiding-

• 1:57:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob is like trying to find how to spell Shabbos Castle bomb. Just laughing at Rob.

• 1:57:44Adam Sosnick?

  B A U M, B A U M.

• 1:57:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Two S's. By the way, super talented guy. But I also think Nick is avoiding Shabbos Castle bomb. So there's a lot of people avoiding people. I think, you know, they say that disinfected is the greatest sunlight, basically get the debates out in the open. Right now, shifting gears from Ben, I'll just address Daily Wire. I think none of them have changed at all. Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh, God, I don't know what's going on with Jordan Peterson. That whole crew, they stand for exactly what they stood for, and they have not followed the clicks and the views by going anti-Israel. By the way, Matt Walsh, I think is Catholic. No, sorry, Michael Knowles is Catholic. They have fierce debates amongst each other. So to act like they're some sort of like unilateral, one-size-fits-all type organization

• 1:58:31Tom Ellsworth?

  would be far from the truth. But I do think, you know, you say Ben needs to reinvent himself. I don't think someone like Ben reinvents himself. He is who he is. You know, you said that he's not that funny. Stop trying to be funny. I get it. I think he's the smartest guy in the room, and that's who he is. Own it. Like, if you try to tell me Tom, whose numbers and stats try to be the coolest guy in the room and the most entertaining, that probably won't be the case, although we have an audience that thinks that. Now, last point. The reality is, Ben is who he is. The market, the media landscape has changed. It is what it is. But do you think Ben's gonna stop being a constitutional conservative? No. Do you think he's gonna stop defending Israel's right to exist? No.

• 1:59:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you think he's gonna basically whore out for the clicks and the views like Candace and Tucker and Megyn Kelly? He's just not gonna do that. And he said that day one, when he got into the, did a speech at Turning Point. Ben is who he is, but I also encourage him, if he's going to change and evolve, go ahead and debate the person that's basically the head of this snake. Now, this Groper thing, I think, look, I've hung out with Nick. I shut basketball with Nick. I disagree with his entire premise, but the kid is talented. I'll give him that. I watch Nick. I text Nick here and there. But-

• 1:59:49Adam Sosnick?

  I think that's something needs to be addressed. Now, I will say the Groypur movement is going absolutely nowhere. Because Nick's fighting with Candace and Candace is fighting with Nick, Nick's fighting with Dan Bilzerian. Dan Bilzerian is apparently 12% Jewish, so that excommunicates him for everything. He's trying to run against Andy Fine. You can't build a coalition on hate. And that's just the reality of it. You can be talented, you could be opinionated, you can be an amazing personality. But that Groypur movement, that Ben Shapiro does not want to basically ingest is a, it's, it's, all they do is destroy. They can't build up. But I want to ask, as a, from everything that you just said, I want, I want to ask the businessman CEO.

• 2:00:31Adam Sosnick?

  Everything he's saying, he's not going to change, he's not going to change. As the CEO, you, Daily Wire, what's going to happen? If you don't, what's going to happen to Daily Wire? With the attitude of, he is what he is, he's going to do what he's going to do.

• 2:00:42Patrick Bet-David?

  The guys that gave the money to him, they're oil folks. I think they're 2.8, 2.9 billionaire folks that invest in Daily Wire.

• 2:00:49Adam Sosnick?

  Qatar?

• 2:00:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, if you want to, no, no, Daily Wire, they're oil, I want to say fracking, I don't know what business they're in.

• 2:00:56Adam Sosnick?

  Oil baron?

• 2:00:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to say, yeah, that's the brothers that put money into it. What is their background?

• 2:01:02Adam Sosnick?

  Ferris and Dan Wilks.

• 2:01:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it takes a Ferris and Dan Wilks. These are the guys that funded Daily Wire. Okay, when you hear about the story at Stem and, yeah, fracking business, I was right. So they're in the fracking business. And so, can you pull up their network, Rob? What is Ferris and Dan?

• 2:01:16Adam Sosnick?

  They also did Prager, I see it here, and I think they also bought Gibson Guitar.

• 2:01:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they're, that's funny, Gibson Guitar, we're familiar with that. So, yeah, 2.4 billionaires, okay. So, 3.5 billion dollars, yeah, so these are money people that have funded it. So here's, here's how it works. When, when you have money that you deploy, Vinny, you put money in a couple of different ways. You either deploy because of what you believe in, okay? Meaning, I'm willing to put all the money to support any conservative causes and media companies because we need that message to grow. Perfect, no problem. So, when your intention is only that... You're not necessarily looking at making money. You're looking at cause driven. Let's protect the Jewish agenda. Let's protect the. And I think these guys are Jews for Jesus. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they're even Jewish. I think they're Jews for Jesus.

• 2:02:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go pull up their Wikipedia? Again, everything I'm saying in this part could be wrong. I haven't looked at this for a couple of years. Some of them have some.

• 2:02:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Testament, you know, Jesus Messiah. Do they believe in Christ? No, there it is right there. Yeah, they are not officially affiliated with the organization Jews for Jesus. But the pastor of the Assembly of Yahweh seventh day is a congregation that adheres to Juda- Judaizing form of Christianity. Okay, so it's like Jews for Jesus. So that's kind of where they're at. So they're putting the money now. Let's flip. Regardless if even if it's for values and principles. If you put money into a business and you invest and you're not getting a rate of return. Nobody runs a charity. So then at the end of the day, you have to find a way to recreate the brand and the business. This isn't a first time. Best Buy was going through issues. They brought a new guy and he fixed it. Best Buy people were no longer coming in.

• 2:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The Best Buy CEOs like, look, instead of trying to do it the old way. Let's partner with Apple, Samsung and give them a booth and a section. So Apple's pushing people to come to our store. Best Buy grew at a certain period when the S and P 500 grew by 111%. I think they grew by 300 plus percent. And that's Best Buy. Wow. Okay, because Kmart didn't make it. Some of these guys didn't make it. So they need to go make a really good hire of a CO to see what direction to go with this. And then a part of the onus has got to be on him on what he wants to do. And by the way, you could say the following. Here's the thing.

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• 2:05:43Speaker 06

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• 2:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  There is, I'm not changing my values and principles. What do you think will take for somebody to change my values and principles? I believe in capitalism. Okay. But guess what? Can somebody give me feedback on my approach? Can somebody give me feedback on strategy? Can somebody come in? Yes, 100%. So I'm not, I'm not in the, the, the part where I'm at. And I'll wrap it up with this last story if we got time to do to Drake. Let me see what my next meeting is. If Mateo's already texting me or not. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm more on the part about, uh, uh, you know. The market is gonna clear itself out. You went back 10 years ago on entrepreneur content, there were people that were the faces of entrepreneurship. They disappeared. Poof, they're gone.

• 2:06:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're no longer around. Whoever's the biggest noise today in 10 years, they're gonna disappear. And it's only gonna be 10 to 20% of them. Who is the 10 to 20%? You have no idea. It's very hard to stay in the arena. You know, an article came out saying that YouTube today, interesting thing about algorithms with YouTube. Mr. Beast's viewership, they said, has dropped 50%. Why has it dropped 50%? He used to get these videos 900 million views, 500 million views, 400 million views. Now it's 60 to 120 million views. Now somebody say, well, listen, give me a 60 to 120 million views. It doesn't mean it's being impacted. What did YouTube do? YouTube on the backend controls what? Controls, go look at any of the top 50 podcasts that we follow.

• 2:07:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And go to their YouTube channel, you'll notice. Why is this guy down to 600,000 views, 200,000 views, 800,000? He used to get 4.8 million views, 3. Why is that guy that used to do 600,000 views down to 300,000 views, 150,000 views? What you will notice is the following. Rogan is number one podcast in 94 countries on Spotify. But on YouTube, it's who? Someone else, Midas Touch. But why is that? Why is YouTube putting this? Because YouTube came out and said they used to favor because they control recommendations. The algorithms of YouTube, they control recommendations. Like, do you remember during COVID? During COVID, they're like, if you use the word, there was certain word you used on the title, it would just drop off.

• 2:07:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, whatever the words were during COVID, there was like 50 words I didn't like. If you used it, it would automatically drop off. So don't use the word. All right, so people didn't use the word. YouTube in insurance, I'll never forget this in insurance, because in the insurance industry, we used to, there used to be this company called Aviva. Rob, can you pull up Aviva? Aviva ended up being bought by somebody, I don't know what the company's new name is, but it used to be called Aviva Insurance. Go to Images, Rob. Go to Images, Aviva, uh, yeah. Oh, I remember these. Yeah, so but this used to be a different logo. Can you tap in Aviva's old logo? Old logo, old logo was a different color. Anyways, so Aviva.

• 2:08:36Patrick Bet-David?

  One year, they're selling index annuities. Let me put the word allegedly in there because I wasn't on the inside. They all of a sudden get $2 billion of annuities that comes in. And then every time you sell annuities, you lose money. Because you have to pay up 8% to 12% in commissions. So if I take a million dollars of new annuity money, I'm paying $120,000 to agents. So how much money have I made getting the new money? Nothing. So one year, they get $2 billion of index annuities. If you get $2 billion of index annuities, how much are you having to pay commissions upfront? What's 12% of $2 billion? $240 million of commissions you have to pay.

• 2:09:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So if your bank account is at, say, half a billion dollars of money you've raised, you sell $2 billion of annuities, you just depleted half your money, you're not going to make your money on annuities for 7 to 10 years. So then all of a sudden, everybody's like, wait a minute, why is Aviva no longer accepting the amount of annuities that they did? Why are they no longer accepting the amount of IULs as they did? Because every time they sold index annuities or index universal life, they were losing money. It takes 7 to 10 years to make money. Who controls the knob? Aviva controlled the knob. Guess who controls the knob on YouTube viewership right now? YouTube does. You know what YouTube did? YouTube controlled the knob and it was long form suggestion and YouTube went like this and said, "Short form. We don't want any more long form recommendation."

• 2:10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what YouTube announced last year?

• 2:10:05Adam Sosnick?

  Going back to long form.

• 2:10:06Patrick Bet-David?

  YouTube last year announced, as of July 15th, "If it's a faceless YouTube channel, we're no longer paying you adsense." What do you mean? So whoever controls the knob, controls the viewership. So there is an element of the media changing on what they're favoring now. It's purely YouTube algorithm. Watch this. Mid 2026, they just made the announcement. YouTube's algorithm is increasingly favoring smaller emerging channels by prioritizing high retention content over subscriber count. So what is YouTube doing now? They want more new people. Because imagine YouTube sitting in a meeting and they're saying, "Man, we not having as many new content creators." If this makes sense, like if you go look at last week Instagram did a massive purge of followership.

• 2:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you go to Instagram purge last week? I want to say Kylie Jenner lost 14 million people on followership in a single day. Can you type in purge, uh, purge, what happened last week? Brands have lost millions. Oh, look at this, Vinnie. Welcome to the greatest bot purge of 2026. Go a little bit lower, May 8th, exactly a week ago. Can you go to the names of people that lost, the amount of people they lost? Cause they're right there. Okay. So there was Kim Kardashian, Kylie Jenner, losing 15.2 million. Kim Kardashian, Cristiano Ronaldo lost 15 million followers in one day. Kardashian lost 9.19. Kylie Jenner lost 7.12. Taylor Swift was 7.2. Nike alone lost 5.9 million followers in one day purge, right?

• 2:11:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you look at somebody whose followership gets to a point and it doesn't change anymore, it's because you found your audience that's interested in you. They're no longer like, now you have to either make a change or a shift or get a new audience to get, to, to get the new audience. So YouTube hit a mark where they're like, we already have so many people that are content creators. We're everywhere in the world. What do we do? Then they said, stop recommending the big popular podcast. Start recommending the smaller podcast. Why do you want to recommend the smaller podcast? Why do you want to recommend? Supply and demand. You want young people to believe in themselves. Because you don't think the bigger podcasts are gonna stop, except you're gonna inspire the smaller podcast to climb up. Like you know how you'll come and you say, I don't know what's going on, but I think YouTube's on my side right now. I'll say they don't mess with that. Yeah.

• 2:12:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause whenever the algorithms are, so, so this is the part that you have to pivot. You have to adjust as a content creator and find out if they want to build a media company. You're seeing the big foxes and these companies that are now bringing talent and saying, hey, do a podcast. Hey, we'll support you doing this. Everyone has to pivot, but the reality, what the world is learning is whoever controls the knob, controls the future content creators. Okay. Is Nick Fuentes on YouTube? No. Why is he not? Because of who controls the knob? Of course. Okay. So where is he back on? X, Y, cause of who controls the knob? Elon. Where is he at? He's at Rumble. Why? Cause of who? Who controls the knob? So you ju- you just gotta keep in mind, whenever somebody, whenever these companies wanna elevate somebody,

• 2:13:03Patrick Bet-David?

  or destroy somebody, they can't, because they control the knob. This is a nasty part of the story. Now, this doesn't mean that's the main reason and only reason that, you know, they're having a hard time with it. No. Are, uh, do, do bots play a little bit of game? Probably, but not that much. Is it YouTube controlling the knob, and that's why I'm being shadow man? I've never liked when people said, "I'm being shadow man." No, just improve your content. Make it better. This is a brutal, brutal business to be in. The moment you take a camera and you go, "I believe such and such," you are going to get attacked. Hundred percent. So if you don't like it, don't use the words "in my opinion," "I believe." Just be quiet, but if you do say "I believe," "in my opinion,"

• 2:13:47Patrick Bet-David?

  expect people to come and hate on you. That's part of the territory, period. And they're gonna get it right now, but trust me. In six months, gonna be somebody else. In a year, it's gonna be, then they're gonna say, "Well, let me tell you what's going on with PBD pile. Let me tell you what's going..." You're in the arena. Expect the heat that's gonna come with it. But you can't also be like, "Well, I don't really give a shit what people say about me." You're an idiot when you say stuff like that. You're a clown. You're an arrogant, entitled person when you say, "I don't give a shit what people think about me." You, if that word has ever come out of your mouth on the idea that I don't need to improve, you're, you're a has-been, and the market's gonna destroy you. I don't care who you are. If, if, if my kids come up to me, and let's just say Dylan starts scoring a bunch of goals, he becomes the best player, and he's in the car and says, "I don't care what the new coach says about me." I'm like, "I'm sorry, what?" No. What did the coach say?

• 2:14:31Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, "Well, I'm not tr- I'm not running as much as I used to." He's right! What do you mean? Yeah, take his feedback. What mean you're not running? Well, I don't care what he says. No, no, no, that's not how life flies. You, you gotta make sure you go out there and take that feedback. So we'll see what happens here. I'm optimistic long-term. I think he's still young. There's gonna be a lot of highs, a lot of lows, and then at the end of the, in 20 years, 2046, we'll look back and see where this thing takes us. Adam, I'll have one more story I wanna get to, but you're raising your hand. What do you wanna say?

• 2:14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just saying, wait till 2020.

• 2:15:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Because that's where I think the views are gonna come.

• 2:15:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So we'll see. Okay, let's go to the next one. All right, Drake and LeBron. Rob, do you have this? I'm gonna make this very brief and Adam, I'm coming to you first.

• 2:15:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Me?

• 2:15:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, I'm coming to you next and Tom, I'm not coming to you. So if you want to pull up the Drake. So allegedly, is this, is this the lyrics, Rob? Is this?

• 2:15:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, this is a song.

• 2:15:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So Drake, rumor has it, is taking shots at LeBron.

• 2:15:24Adam Sosnick?

  It's about time.

• 2:15:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and it's, it's pretty, it's pretty, it's pretty tough. Rob, if you want to play this, can we even play it or no, Rob?

• 2:15:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, we can play it.

• 2:15:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you sure?

• 2:15:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, we'll fight it in post. It's, it's covered under fair use.

• 2:15:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 2:15:38Speaker 07

  (singing) Please stop asking about what's going on with 23 and me. I'm a real nigga and he's not. It's in my DNA. I could have fell back like the merry rapper, but we engaged. I told y'all I'm settled in my evil ways. These niggas thinking that the spot is up for grabs. They'll never see the day to be the number one. You gotta leave.

• 2:15:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so what happened with 23 and me? Who's he talking about? This guy named LeBron James, okay? And, and by the way, the lines continue on what he says about all this stuff. "I shouldn't even be shocked to see you in the arena because you always made your career for switching teams up."

• 2:16:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Ooh.

• 2:16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  "Please stop asking what's going on with 23 and me. I'm a real, you know what, and he's not."

• 2:16:22Tom Ellsworth?

  It's in my DNA.

• 2:16:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Drake 39, James 41, they seem to be having tension and it's interesting with this tension because at the beginning, they used to be like an item. I, I think one of the main songs was him. What was the song that he had? Greatness? You know, uh, uh, there, there was a song that he made that was in, uh, LeBron's, what do you call it? Videos that he would make, it would mainly be this song. So Adam, how much are you following the story between the feud of these two guys?

• 2:16:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, 0%, but that doesn't mean I don't know anything about LeBron. I don't know about Drake. I know they spent a lot of time when Drake was coming up, uh, in the early 2010s when LeBron was playing for the Heat. They definitely had a relationship. Um, but I, I don't know the, the, the, literally, I didn't even know the story popped up. But what I will say is this, and I'm just connecting dots here. Hey, guys, I'm just asking questions.

• 2:17:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Toronto Raptors won a championship in what 2019?

• 2:17:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:17:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay. LeBron was still on Cleveland then, so there was some, there was some, there's some beef at that point. He had just left Cleveland. But also, what's the city that, and by the way, Drake is from Toronto, what's the city that's connecting dots? I don't know. What's the city, the one NBA city that LeBron criticized recently?

• 2:17:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I don't know. Uh, yeah, yeah, Memphis. He criticized Memphis, yeah.

• 2:17:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Memphis. Where's, where's Drake from?

• 2:17:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Canada.

• 2:17:45Tom Ellsworth?

  That's where his mom's from. Where's his dad from?

• 2:17:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Memphis.

• 2:17:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Memphis.

• 2:17:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:17:48Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's some stuff going on behind the scenes here, but I know this.

• 2:17:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think that's what it is.

• 2:17:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I'm just connecting dots here, but I know this. I don't know what happened here. They both got some dirt on one another. They both been in some secret rooms, parties, I'm not saying ditty parties, whatever. They know some stuff, but let me tell you something. Drake, run into LeBron by yourself without your crew and then talk shit. I don't think you're gonna say one word to LeBron. So there's a difference between yapping, and it's funny thing is Drake made his, uh, his, uh, career on saying that, uh, Twitter fingers turned into, trigger fingers turned into Twitter fingers. Basically saying that everybody's not tough. You talk tough online, but not in real life. Let's see if Drake does anything to LeBron in real life, because I guarantee you, if you're gonna come for the king, you

• 2:18:33Tom Ellsworth?

  know, you better not miss. So LeBron, uh, better luck next time in the playoffs. I think Luka Doncic is coming back for the next series.

• 2:18:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna say this. I wanna say this. I think one of the reasons was because, do you remember we were watching the Super Bowl and LeBron was dancing to Kendrick Lamar?

• 2:18:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That's it.

• 2:18:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And so that's what I think it is, right?

• 2:18:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, because, because.

• 2:18:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm reading these lines on what he said. I'm like.

• 2:18:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Bro.

• 2:18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What was, uh, uh, uh, what, last name ever, first name greatest, greatest.

• 2:19:01Tom Ellsworth?

  There was nothing to play with.

• 2:19:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that was about LeBron James.

• 2:19:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Was he?

• 2:19:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that was about LeBron James. So that, that song, you know, when you, when you think about it. So these guys have been buddies for a while and now. All of a sudden, it's like, hey, I saw bro at the pop out with them. Uh, key lines, uh, pop out with them. Who's them? Kendrick Lamar? You switched on the guys and supported a hater. Like, what are you doing going from me to, to him? And you know, Kendrick did the Not Like Us, which blew up massive, huge.

• 2:19:31Adam Sosnick?

  And that, I think, I think, Adam, that's the connecting the dots is that. Because the Kendrick Lamar Drake beef was Kendrick in the lyrics saying something about pedophilia or something. Do you remember that? Do you remember that beef where he was saying?

• 2:19:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah. You like them young. Cell Block One, something like that.

• 2:19:46Adam Sosnick?

  So then, think about this. You're friends with, I know Tom's following, guys. Look at Tom. Tom knows that LeBron, LeBron and Drake were like this.

• 2:19:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's gonna make you laugh now and cry later, buddy.

• 2:19:56Adam Sosnick?

  They were like this. Tom's gonna freestyle after this. They were friends and then Kendrick Lamar, uh, LeBron is chilling with Kendrick Lamar and bumping his music and hanging out with him. And Drake was like, nope. Especially after, bro, you, you hang out with somebody that's calling me a pedophile in the lyrics, I'm not gonna be cool with you. So, I think that's what, Pat, Pat made a great, uh, great point.

• 2:20:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. I like it. I, I like it that it's happening.

• 2:20:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, why did you want to cover the story? This is so not up our alley typically.

• 2:20:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's why it's the last story. And so the audience have not interested. Go ahead and do your thing. But this is, this is, look, as a kid, I was a hip hop guy. I was a hip hop and an R and B guy till 2003. Till 2003. After that, I turned off the radio and I just, like, this morning, I just texted something to Spencer Pratt. Uh, right now, encouraging him. I sent him two pages from a book to read. And this was an audio book that I played in the car 24/7 for two years. This is the only audio book that played in the car. And I stopped listening to hip hop. But the, the, the thing with hip hop and, and the wars internally, the games, interest, selling it now. Oh, my God, I gotta see what's in the album. This is how you do it. This is how you sell an album. This is a marketer.

• 2:21:03Patrick Bet-David?

  There you get the right eyeballs and see what happens to it. Anyways, gang, um, great spending time with you guys as usual. On Friday, uh, Rob, do we have anything going on this weekend or no?

• 2:21:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, no, we have an interview going out next Tuesday.

• 2:21:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's what, with Paul Saladino? Probably one of the funniest interviews I've done in a long time. You're gonna laugh your ass up. But with that being said, have a great weekend, everybody. God bless. We'll do it again next Monday. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:21:30Speaker 00

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, theHouseMajorityPact.com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidates committee.

• 2:22:00Speaker 06

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