Life Hacks 105

Jonny & Yusef from PropaneFitness.com join me for another episode detailing our favourite apps, websites, resources and tools for a productive and efficient life. Expect to learn; How can you run a business working an hour a day? What is the most efficient sleeping posture? Is Philips Hue any good? Why does a Muslim upbringing give you an obsessional level of toilet hygiene? Why should you eat a kilo of broccoli every day? And an awful lot more. Below you will find links to everything we reference, including as many referral & discount codes as we could find! Enjoy. Resources: The 6 Minute Diary: http://amzn.eu/d/cZiqMGT Shattaf Bidet - http://amzn.eu/d/iJGQqSY A kilo of broccoli - https://www.propanefitness.com/poo Soreen - https://www.soreen.com/ WorkingMemory.txt - http://calnewport.com/blog/2015/10/27/deep-habits-workingmemory-txt-the-most-important-productivity-tool-youve-never-heard-of/ Living With A Seal - http://amzn.eu/d/4bk613I JRE #1127 Jesse Itzler - https://youtu.be/b0GIO4lYFls Swipe right on Spotify Mobile to add to Play Queue. MicroBags - http://amzn.eu/d/g75NcbQ (couldn’t find the Yemeni version) Drip Coffee Filter - http://amzn.eu/d/2H34ZXv Stop saying gay, start saying lame. Digital is not always better. Forget smart lights. Newer books rarely beat classics, they’re called classics for a reason. Derren Brown - Happy - http://amzn.eu/d/1WN9aj4 Do I Need To Go And Get Lex? - https://youtu.be/oXno18pOHgo Dropbox - https://db.tt/SVdwk2o9 (free signup with free extra storage) Be Focussed Pro - https://xwavesoft.com/be-focused-pro-for-iphone-ipad-mac-os-x.html Focus Matrix - https://xwavesoft.com/focus-matrix-for-iphone-ipad-mac.html Dr Euan Lawson Podcast - https://youtu.be/-sdGBZcmY2s The Red Queen Effect - https://fs.blog/2012/10/the-red-queen-effect/ The Art Of Less Doing - http://amzn.eu/d/6ItlwTz The Push-Away Handshake. Blading for moving through a crowd. Remembering things that have happened during a night to determine drunkness. YouTube Keyboard Shortcuts - https://sites.google.com/a/umich.edu/u-m-google-170816/accessibility/google-keyboard-shortcuts---youtube Kelly Starrett Neck Shoulders & Pillow - https://youtu.be/xnlDTyMRRGg Kelly Starrett Sleeping Position - https://youtu.be/cq64hxZMJbc Kelly Starrett Lower Body Sleeping Support - https://youtu.be/yd3HeEoqfa4 Pregnancy Pillow - http://amzn.eu/d/82sajV0 - Video editing & production by Dean Hindmarch https://www.deanhindmarch.com/ https://www.instagram.com/deanhindmarch - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/modern-wisdom/id1347973549 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XrOqvxlqQI6bmdYHuIVnr?si=iUpczE97SJqe1kNdYBipnw Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: [email protected]

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• 0:06Chris Williamson?

  Dean's shooting through glass now, I mean, he's just fucking.

• 0:10Speaker 01

  Life hacks.

• 0:11Chris Williamson?

  One of.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  Five, five.

• 0:14Chris Williamson?

  Life hacks, one of five. We are back again. Say hello. Johnny and Yusef from Propane Fitness are here. So, Life Hacks is the most requested episode that we do, and it feels like the lowest hanging fruit. I reckon we could just make another channel that's just Life Hacks.

• 0:29Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 0:29Chris Williamson?

  Just do this full time. Although Johnny, you seem to think you don't have any.

• 0:33Jonny?

  No, no, I don't. I can talk about.

• 0:35Chris Williamson?

  You can't see, you can't see the wood for the trees, that's why. You are so optimized.

• 0:39Jonny?

  So I, I don't agree.

• 0:40Chris Williamson?

  The groove too hard.

• 0:42Speaker 01

  Your threshold is low, is too low for Life Hacks though. So, so Chris had.

• 0:46Jonny?

  Too high.

• 0:47Speaker 01

  Too high?

• 0:48Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  Chris had a dairy product on his.

• 0:51Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  So.

• 0:52Chris Williamson?

  Do you know what I mean? Right.

• 0:53Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 0:53Speaker 01

  Do you want to open up scobly? Sure. So Johnny has my list.

• 0:58Jonny?

  This is my list. You haven't got your life hacks.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  So. I will. So I'm, I'm going to start having to categorize these into like physical, digital, financial, and then different rooms. But my most recent one, which I am so excited about, is a shottuffer, which is an Arabic word.

• 1:20Jonny?

  Bless you.

• 1:20Speaker 01

  For bum spray. Now, I got one of these fitted. Got one of these fitted in my bathroom recently. Fifty pounds, high pressure bum spray that just. So, right, this is the justification for a product like this. Everywhere east of here, everyone has a shottuffer. But.

• 1:42Jonny?

  Bless you.

• 1:42Speaker 01

  If you, like, okay, if you get a bit of poo on your face, you don't just go, I'm just gonna get a bit of dry tissue paper and wipe it off a couple of times. There we go. That'll do. Like, you'd wash it with something and then you'd clean it. And so.

• 1:57Jonny?

  What about if there was going to be more poo coming from your face all the time?

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Then.

• 2:02Chris Williamson?

  But you you'd accept.

• 2:03Speaker 01

  You'd get some easy access spray that you can just hose it down and then go.

• 2:07Chris Williamson?

  So I've seen the hose that you're talking about and the pressure that comes out of it is a bit terrifying.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:15Chris Williamson?

  Do do you ever find if you're too central with the spray that you accidentally give yourself an enema?

• 2:22Speaker 01

  It's it's feasible, yeah, like you you'd have.

• 2:24Chris Williamson?

  If you're relaxed, if you're relaxed.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  If you pushed out.

• 2:27Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, what's the what's that? What's relaxing like that? What's this?

• 2:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, like if if you dilate your anus, then.

• 2:32Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:33Jonny?

  So the question is, what is the? How much ring tension does your sphincter have and what what water pressure is required to make the valve break?

• 2:42Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, so.

• 2:43Chris Williamson?

  It's ready to go. If you've got a loose pelvic floor.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Then don't, yeah, like then.

• 2:47Chris Williamson?

  You're just gonna fill up like.

• 2:48Jonny?

  I don't imagine you point it at your anus and press go, do you?

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, you do.

• 2:53Jonny?

  Directly at your anus.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  I've I've got quite good.

• 2:55Chris Williamson?

  A water balloon.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  So so I I think like.

• 2:57Chris Williamson?

  Let that girl out of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory that had a blue bruised on.

• 3:00Jonny?

  Violet.

• 3:01Chris Williamson?

  Violet Bolegard.

• 3:02Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 3:02Chris Williamson?

  Not Augustus.

• 3:03Jonny?

  He's a gamer, isn't he?

• 3:04Chris Williamson?

  You like Augustus.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  But, yeah, like you you can always pull the reducing valve down a little bit if it's too much.

• 3:09Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  The other thing that I saw someone post on a life hack, which I think is just. It's just a standard thing is they were like, oh, spread your cheeks when you go to the toilet like. Surely everyone does that. It's the same.

• 3:21Chris Williamson?

  No one's trying to squeeze one out from between clenched butt cheeks.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, or or like, oh, lean forward, like, well, no one's like.

• 3:27Chris Williamson?

  Try and have a try and try and have a definitely don't try and have a shit at the top of a deadlift.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, like it's so I think some like I know we are saying your threshold's too high, but.

• 3:37Chris Williamson?

  For some people, your threshold's too low.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 3:39Jonny?

  Well, so I I would I would take your. Shatapher.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  Shatapher.

• 3:45Jonny?

  Bless you. A step back. Let's say you can get um at the histamines and stuff, you know.

• 3:52Chris Williamson?

  So I was I was listening to a podcast that Shane Parrish did from Knowledge Project. He's the guy behind Farnham Street and um. On that, they said the exact same thing, that pretty much everywhere east of here, they use moist toilet paper. Use moist toilet paper.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  That's my normal MO if I'm outside of Shottifer zone.

• 4:11Chris Williamson?

  Is.

• 4:11Jonny?

  Modus operandi.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:14Chris Williamson?

  Wet the toilet paper.

• 4:15Jonny?

  Wet.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  Wet the toilet paper.

• 4:17Chris Williamson?

  You're totally right. You would not usually wipe something dirty with something dry.

• 4:21Jonny?

  So that, what I was saying about taking a step back, why, so you need, there's so much wiping required that you need a pressurized hose in your bathroom. Why not just green smoothies?

• 4:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:32Jonny?

  And it's like, remove, remove the need.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Have, have we talked about green smoothies?

• 4:35Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, we've done it. We've done it. But you haven't talked about, you haven't talked about, um, why you shave your anus.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  I haven't in a long time, because.

• 4:43Chris Williamson?

  Is it like, it's like a jungle down there now?

• 4:46Speaker 01

  It's, so all, all of this is just, it just comes from, I, I think a Muslim upbringing gives you an obsessional level of toilet hygiene.

• 4:55Jonny?

  Of anal hygiene.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:02Chris Williamson?

  Which is weird because.

• 5:02Jonny?

  The more I think about that, the funnier it is.

• 5:04Speaker 01

  Just thought of another one.

• 5:06Jonny?

  Anal hygiene.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  It's nothing to do with.

• 5:07Jonny?

  Do you know, I, I just wanna, just for a segue, the last time I looked at Yusuf's laptop during one of these episodes, it was when we did Life Hack Fails, which never made it on the podcast, but when I was reading his list. So it's one of the funniest lists I've ever read in my life, but one of the things it said was just, joined a cult.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  So if you want.

• 5:27Jonny?

  Really, really wanted to know.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  We're gonna have to get onto that with Life Hack Fails.

• 5:30Chris Williamson?

  If you want, if you want to hear the Life Fails, the one, one on one episode, comment below and he'll do it because traffic.

• 5:36Jonny?

  Because traffic.

• 5:37Chris Williamson?

  Because traffic. Right.

• 5:38Jonny?

  Can I go back?

• 5:38Chris Williamson?

  Do you wanna go, Blob, or do you want me to go?

• 5:40Jonny?

  Um, well, I, I, I'm, I'm reeling from the anal hygiene, to be honest.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Okay, have, have some time.

• 5:48Jonny?

  All right. Well, so, so my, my, probably my, one of my biggest tips, uh, related to anal hygiene is, and this sounds so basic, but it's also a bit of a weird thing to say, but a lot of people talk to us about. They're pooing. Like, I have a lot of conversations with a lot of people about their poo. And.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  I suppose we, we tell people what to put into their bodies.

• 6:09Jonny?

  Yeah, and what comes out is the, is the product of that. The easiest way to just make pooing a brilliant experience, like, set your watch by it, just up your green vegetables. Like five hundred grams to a kilo of broccoli a day, and I guarantee you won't have any problem.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  You have to eat five hundred grams to a gr- a kilo of broccoli.

• 6:29Jonny?

  That's not that much.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  If you blend it down as well, like, if you go to propanefitness.com forward slash poo, there's an article on there.

• 6:37Jonny?

  And sort you out.

• 6:38Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 6:38Jonny?

  Sort you right out. So in fact, that's my tip.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  Fine.

• 6:41Jonny?

  Because like, it's overlooked, but actually, like, pooing can be a really horrendous thing.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  What was the Kelly Starrett quote?

• 6:49Jonny?

  If you wake up every morning with an erection, if you're a man, or you have a penis, wake up every morning with an erection and have a poo every day, then you're probably quite healthy.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Physiologically.

• 6:58Jonny?

  Hmm.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  Nothing to worry about.

• 7:00Jonny?

  Hmm. And that like, as, as sort of metrics go, I really like that, but.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  There's a, there's a famous, like, old doctor, you know, when doctors were like polymaths.

• 7:10Jonny?

  Hmm.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  And that says, that has a quote, like, there is nothing, no greater pleasure in this life than a good bowel movement.

• 7:15Jonny?

  Hmm. Well, so I really agree. And it's also strange that anything, making anything go out of you feels fantastic. And there's very few, I can't think of a single exception to that.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 7:26Jonny?

  Hmm.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  You've wanted out.

• 7:27Jonny?

  Just up, up your green vegetable intake. So dark, leafy, green veg broccoli, just add it into your diet.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  Should we move on from polon?

• 7:36Jonny?

  That was my tip.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  No, yeah, I know.

• 7:37Jonny?

  Alright.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  I think, um.

• 7:39Jonny?

  I like polon stuff, I like.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  Such an opening.

• 7:41Jonny?

  Bum stuff.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, fine. It is an opening or a closing.

• 7:44Jonny?

  Do you want any bum stuff?

• 7:45Speaker 01

  Uh, no, I haven't got any bum stuff. So first one that I'm gonna do is one that.

• 7:50Jonny?

  Bring it back to bum stuff.

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Everyone, yeah, we can do some more bumps.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Everyone who follows me online will know, which is eat soaring.

• 7:58Jonny?

  Not related to bum stuff.

• 7:59Chris Williamson?

  It will be, it will translate into bum stuff eventually.

• 8:02Jonny?

  There's a bum consequence, isn't there?

• 8:03Speaker 01

  So Saurin is the, is the brand?

• 8:05Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  What, what is Saurin?

• 8:07Chris Williamson?

  So it's a malt loaf, which is a fruit loaf.

• 8:09Jonny?

  Does Saurin make anything else?

• 8:11Chris Williamson?

  No.

• 8:12Jonny?

  They just make malt loaf?

• 8:13Speaker 01

  I think they make it like a cake thing?

• 8:14Jonny?

  Do they?

• 8:15Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 8:16Chris Williamson?

  Not sure.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  But.

• 8:17Chris Williamson?

  We don't need to worry, you do not need to worry yourself with anything else that Saurin make. All you need to be concerned about is the apple and sultana and banana malt loaf.

• 8:25Jonny?

  So good example of how much Chris likes this. We came around here to watch the CrossFit Games a couple of weeks ago.

• 8:31Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 8:32Jonny?

  Or at whatever point in the past when I've been listening to this, I bought a few sleeves of mini ones, thinking like, there's plenty to go around. I think we had one each and watched a bit of, watched a bit of the games, went to get one, like, Chris, where have they gone?

• 8:45Speaker 01

  He's sat there.

• 8:46Jonny?

  I thought you were finished, so I just by default ate the rest of them.

• 8:50Chris Williamson?

  Just raffles balance.

• 8:52Speaker 01

  On my face. I've, I've seen Chris put away large parts of malt loaf.

• 8:56Chris Williamson?

  People get disgusted by the way that I eat malt loaf, which is fucking crazy. Cause they're looking at me eating malt loaf like you would look at someone taking out an unsliced loaf of bread. And just biting off the edge of it, which is totally not what's happening.

• 9:09Jonny?

  Hmm.

• 9:10Chris Williamson?

  At all, because it's very different.

• 9:12Jonny?

  It's very mo- it's moist, it's like a dessert almost, isn't it malt loaf?

• 9:15Speaker 01

  You can slice it, butter it and put it in the toaster, but it's.

• 9:17Chris Williamson?

  It's just unnecessary.

• 9:18Jonny?

  So I think buttered malt loaf's fantastic.

• 9:20Chris Williamson?

  It's lovely, but it's, you're just adding in steps to something that doesn't need to be made any better. So the best way to eat Saurin, first off, the, the main advantage of it is it is impossible to get that much, that many carbs into yourself that easily. No other food is that calorie dense in terms of carbohydrates.

• 9:40Jonny?

  Honey.

• 9:42Chris Williamson?

  Not food.

• 9:44Jonny?

  Is it drink?

• 9:44Chris Williamson?

  It's just easy, it's just so easy to get it in. So you're like, right, a, a, a block that's like that.

• 9:52Jonny?

  Cause you just go.

• 9:54Chris Williamson?

  It's more, it's like a tortilla. So you open it up, wrap it out and then you just feed it out and then.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  So you know, when you're doing like silicon sealant or.

• 10:04Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, yeah. You push from the back.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, like or like.

• 10:06Chris Williamson?

  Prit stick.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  Polyfiller, Prit stick.

• 10:08Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, you just push it from the back.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  You can get a gun. You could probably buy one from Wilco for pot loads and just squeeze it.

• 10:13Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, exactly. And then, yeah, it's like a hundred and twenty grams of carbs in a, a single. I mean, anyone who's watching should know. Should be eating, they should be eating souring right now.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  So just on that note, obviously everyone knows about the, the magical carb fat combination that just makes food irresistible. And you can just keep eating it. So like a croissant is the perfect example because it's so unfilling and you can just.

• 10:37Chris Williamson?

  But you could add garlic to it.

• 10:39Speaker 01

  Really?

• 10:40Chris Williamson?

  So think of like.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  Oh, so as in like.

• 10:43Chris Williamson?

  I'm talking savory, you're talking sweet.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Not, not to a croissant?

• 10:45Chris Williamson?

  No, no.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  Okay, I see. So, so yeah, salt, salt makes you less full from a fatty meal. So adding, which, which makes sense. Like add salt to chips and you can eat more of them.

• 10:55Chris Williamson?

  Mm hmm.

• 10:56Speaker 01

  Um, and so the other thing that if you, if you're rice inclined, Iranian rice. You ever been to like a Persian restaurant? They'd have the rice with the butter on top and the saffron. And it's, it's really like, becomes very slippery rice and you can just put it.

• 11:12Chris Williamson?

  Pound it away. Yeah.

• 11:13Jonny?

  So the rice is quite dry, isn't it?

• 11:15Chris Williamson?

  Usually. There's something special, the, the magic that is souring. I don't think it can, I don't think anyone really understands how it works.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  Can you talk us through the flavors? Cause there are some really.

• 11:24Chris Williamson?

  So chocolate, chocolate's really good. Original, I'd just leave that. That's like, that's too basic. You don't want to do that.

• 11:30Jonny?

  I think that has to be buttered.

• 11:31Chris Williamson?

  That's beginning, yeah, it does. That's beginner. That's entry. You don't really need to start on that. Just go straight for the banana. All you want is banana. Don't fuck about with these like lunchbox loaves because you get started and then you stop.

• 11:41Jonny?

  So you eat, you eat the entire.

• 11:42Speaker 01

  This is not enough.

• 11:43Chris Williamson?

  The entire loaf. Yeah, it's, and if you need to gain weight or if you are a, an athlete or if you are a human being that requires sustenance by souring. There we go. That's my life hack.

• 11:54Speaker 01

  So there's banana, there's like five fruit, which is very nice.

• 11:57Chris Williamson?

  Five fruit, there's an apple, uh, apple sultana. Um, they did a blood orange and chocolate chip.

• 12:04Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 12:04Chris Williamson?

  That was a screen for special for.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  Oh, nice.

• 12:08Chris Williamson?

  For Halloween. I got a hold of some of that.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Oh, damn, I bet you stockpiled it.

• 12:11Chris Williamson?

  I've got a guy, yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:12Chris Williamson?

  I've got a guy at HQ. Uh, my, my life goal is to become sponsored by Soren. Uh, Soren, at Soren HQ.

• 12:18Jonny?

  I think you can easily get that.

• 12:20Chris Williamson?

  Man, if.

• 12:20Jonny?

  They're gonna have that many people after that.

• 12:22Chris Williamson?

  If I'm in here next, on the next. Five Hacks, Five Hacks one or six, and we're all just wearing Soren T-shirts.

• 12:28Jonny?

  They'd be yellow T-shirts, wouldn't they?

• 12:29Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, yeah, bright yellow. It'd make you look good.

• 12:32Jonny?

  Thanks, man.

• 12:33Chris Williamson?

  You'd look nice in yellow. Anyway, moving on, what's next?

• 12:35Speaker 01

  When, when, when's John worn yellow?

• 12:38Chris Williamson?

  Luscon.

• 12:39Jonny?

  I had, I have a, I have a yellow Ente Shikari T-shirt that would nowhere near fit me now. I used to have a green Ford Russia T-shirt.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  Ford Russia.

• 12:48Chris Williamson?

  Moving on.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  Okay, have we talked about micro bags?

• 12:52Jonny?

  No. Is this a weird thing?

• 12:55Speaker 01

  So thi- this is another physical one. Let, let's move on to a digital one.

• 12:59Chris Williamson?

  Cool.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  So workingmemory.txt. So this is Carl Newport's idea of you have a permanent capture available on your computer with easy access at any time. So I always talk about like the, the, most people don't have a capture. They might have some way of sometimes capturing some things in certain circumstances, but they don't have a universal way to just, something comes on to their, into their general inbox.

• 13:26Chris Williamson?

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:26Speaker 01

  Into their awareness and they have to do something with it or just capture it down and then process it into one of their systems. This allows you, at least while you're at a computer, it's the equivalent of carrying a notebook around with you. So you'll be doing a task, something comes into your head or something happens, you're like, oh, I need to fix that, but you don't want to be derailed from the task that you're currently doing. So you open workingmemory.txt, dump it down in there, get back to what you're doing.

• 13:51Chris Williamson?

  It's just like a notepad.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, so some people use a notepad file, you know, the app notepad, like the proper old Windows one. Yeah, or notes. I use, because, because I use Evernote for everything else, you can have a little elephant in the top of the taskbar, which you click on and it opens up like a unformatted bit of text. You can just dump ideas into there.

• 14:10Jonny?

  Does it actually add it to Evernote, though?

• 14:12Speaker 01

  You can, but I, I just need this. Yeah.

• 14:15Jonny?

  Why don't you? Alfred and then add it to Trello or.

• 14:19Speaker 01

  Yes, you can do that as well with Alfred.

• 14:22Jonny?

  But but having something that like thought I need to get.

• 14:25Chris Williamson?

  I mean, your first, the first one that we did on one on one was.

• 14:29Jonny?

  Capture process.

• 14:30Chris Williamson?

  Have a capture and it also came back up on one or three.

• 14:32Speaker 01

  There's so, because because capture, I've got a list of stuff for capture because you need. Um, like that's why Toby is a capture for like you make sense of your links.

• 14:42Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  You you're busy, you're driving, whatever, you just you try to put it into something and then.

• 14:46Jonny?

  Yeah, best capture. So the my, one of my biggest problems with capture is when I'm driving. So I'll be, I'm driving and I'm like, I've thought of something.

• 14:54Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:55Jonny?

  So now it's just, hey Siri.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  That's good.

• 15:00Chris Williamson?

  Nice.

• 15:01Jonny?

  Got a train.

• 15:01Chris Williamson?

  So how do you do it? Make a note.

• 15:03Jonny?

  You just say, remind me to and it.

• 15:06Chris Williamson?

  Okay, because you only need like, you only need like three words of the queue, right? And it'll bring it back.

• 15:10Jonny?

  Yeah, it's a single word, single word.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  The only thing is, if anyone has any suggestions, because iOS twelve is coming out and they've improved the voice notes function. And it syncs with Mac and all of that stuff. If someone can find a way to really quickly. Do a voice note.

• 15:25Chris Williamson?

  Swipe up from the bottom, add it to your.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  It's not as part, maybe in the beta, it's not part of the options there.

• 15:31Chris Williamson?

  So does it open the app when you do it from there? Because you can have it in your dock at your home, so you can swipe up from the bottom and open voice notes from there, but then you'd have to press and hold. Are you talking about swipe up from the bottom and just press and hold?

• 15:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, so some way, just I I know that sounds really pedantic to minimize the number of steps to do something, but.

• 15:48Chris Williamson?

  It would be nice.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:49Jonny?

  Why, you should use Siri more.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  Siri never, never.

• 15:53Chris Williamson?

  So but you are using an iPhone five C.

• 15:55Jonny?

  You get, you get, but Siri improves the more you use it. That's the the hey Siri thing.

• 16:01Jonny?

  See, there you go.

• 16:02Chris Williamson?

  She won't shut up now.

• 16:02Jonny?

  That it it, that's improved exponentially, the more I've used it.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  There's hundreds of times where I'm lying there like, hey Siri. Hey, Syrian, nothing, it just hates me.

• 16:11Jonny?

  Arab.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  And your, your phone gets me over in ten miles.

• 16:14Jonny?

  But like, but having that as a, so that will work, that can be across the other side of the room. And I think of something, I have.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  If it, if it works, have, have you seen Alexa? I don't think, so Alexa, Google Home. They're awful, shite.

• 16:27Jonny?

  Yeah, so I agree.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  Absolutely shite. Well, Julian was having sex with his wife and um Alexa just went boom, hmm, that's nice. And he was like, right. I'm replying to that. Right, Johnny, have you got one?

• 16:41Jonny?

  Um, so this is a book recommendation, is that allowed?

• 16:44Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 16:45Jonny?

  Um, so I listened to on rec, uh, by recommendation of Ben, if he's listening. Um, a book called Living with a Seal by a guy called Jesse Itzler, I think. Not, not one of those seals. So thi- this guy is like mega successful, uh, done multiple businesses, his wife created Spanx.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 17:08Jonny?

  So like very, very successful couple.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  Some fucking good genetics in that family, eh?

• 17:11Jonny?

  Yeah, and he was like, right, uh, so he, he was at a, he was at a marathon or an ultra marathon. But it was a team ultra marathon and there was, so everyone's there on a team. And there's a, he describes it as this massive black shredded guy who just did the whole thing himself. And he's like, gets to the end and he's like limping and there's bleeding everywhere. And he finds his contact details, looks him up, realizes he's this like extremely decorated Navy SEAL.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Is he the one that wrote the post about he broke like four bones in his foot and?

• 17:41Jonny?

  It's not David Goggins. I don't know, no, no. Um, so gets his details, rings him up and says, I want to pay you to just live with me for a month. And he's like, I'll do it. It is David Goggins. David Goggins? Who's David Goggins? The SEAL. Oh mate, he doesn't reveal his name. It's David Goggins. He just calls him Seal. It's David Goggins. David Goggins? Yeah. How do you know that? Cause the whole time in the book, he's like, I'm not, I can't say his name.

• 18:06Chris Williamson?

  And if it's not David Goggins.

• 18:08Jonny?

  Uh huh.

• 18:09Chris Williamson?

  Then there's another guy that's done the exact same thing.

• 18:12Jonny?

  Right.

• 18:12Chris Williamson?

  And got him to live there. Did he make him jump in a frozen lake?

• 18:15Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 18:16Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, it's David Goggins.

• 18:17Jonny?

  Not the author, the Navy SEAL is David.

• 18:19Chris Williamson?

  The Navy SEAL is David Goggins.

• 18:21Jonny?

  Okay.

• 18:22Chris Williamson?

  And the guy that you're talking about, the author is called.

• 18:24Jonny?

  Jesse Itzler.

• 18:25Chris Williamson?

  Jesse Itzler, listen to, listen to Joe Rogan's podcast, search Joe Rogan, Jesse Itzler, and you will get to hear the behind the scenes to that book.

• 18:31Jonny?

  Shit me.

• 18:32Chris Williamson?

  Where he says exactly what it was like.

• 18:34Jonny?

  Like inception.

• 18:35Chris Williamson?

  He made him jump in the.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  I'm just watching Johnny butcher Alfred.

• 18:39Jonny?

  What?

• 18:39Speaker 01

  And it's really upsetting me.

• 18:40Jonny?

  Why did I butcher it?

• 18:41Speaker 01

  So he's, um, it's the equivalent of watching your mum like. Type H T T D.

• 18:47Jonny?

  I did Chrome, I did Chrome and then use Google.

• 18:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:51Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, it's just inefficient.

• 18:52Speaker 01

  And then move the mask over to the little arrow.

• 18:54Jonny?

  But it was, but it was effective.

• 18:56Chris Williamson?

  I'm gonna do.

• 18:56Jonny?

  Hold on, hold on.

• 18:57Speaker 01

  Okay, well, I mean, what have you got the laptop out for?

• 18:59Jonny?

  To, to check it was Jesse Itzler.

• 19:01Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 19:02Jonny?

  So the reason that that's a good book.

• 19:05Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 19:05Jonny?

  Is you realise, so the whole time the guy's like getting woken up at four AM and made to run nine miles and then.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  Did he pay this man to just?

• 19:13Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 19:14Chris Williamson?

  David Goggins.

• 19:14Jonny?

  The only, the only condition is that he has to do everything that he tells him to do. So he builds him up to the point of doing a thousand pushups in a day. He's making him running in the snow. It's awful.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  Thousand pushups a day is not, not that bad actually. I mean, I'm, I'm.

• 19:30Chris Williamson?

  It's like every 20 minutes, you need to do a little set.

• 19:33Speaker 01

  It's every hour you do a hundred.

• 19:35Jonny?

  I think.

• 19:36Chris Williamson?

  For, for an untrained person.

• 19:38Jonny?

  You're not factoring in the, the cumulative fatigue by the time you've done like 800.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  So I've done the Armstrong program where I was doing 400 a day, like in the morning before I went to work and that was.

• 19:47Chris Williamson?

  Did you go to work with an unbelievable chest pump?

• 19:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, just like.

• 19:50Jonny?

  Did you build up, you built up to 400 a day?

• 19:52Speaker 01

  I did, yeah, yeah.

• 19:53Chris Williamson?

  This guy's going from scratch.

• 19:54Jonny?

  Just from, from zero to a thousand a day in about, in a month's time.

• 19:58Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:58Jonny?

  But, but anyway, so the, the, the point is, I think so many people, we get so many people saying like, oh, um, I can't do that because I'll overtrain or I can't diet like that because I'll be, I'll be too hungry or like, I can't wake up early because it's too difficult. You listen to this and you're just like. Bollocks about like this guy's getting woken up like he there was one thing he did where he made him do. He made him go for a run every two hours for forty eight hours or something.

• 20:23Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  Or including sleep and stuff.

• 20:25Jonny?

  Yeah, every waking up every two hours and he like goes in to get the David Goggins because of Seal, which I think is better. I think you've ruined it for me, actually, sorry. Goes in, goes into Seal's bedroom and he's sleeping in an oxygen chamber that he's created in this guy's flat.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  Why?

• 20:41Jonny?

  And just because you've got to be ready for anything.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  Oh, I see.

• 20:44Jonny?

  Like, it's it's all.

• 20:45Speaker 01

  So, you know, I I was giving it a big one, the big one about all the like pushups, but actually running every two hours, even if it's a hundred metres, no way.

• 20:52Jonny?

  Hmm.

• 20:53Chris Williamson?

  Just.

• 20:53Jonny?

  So then he goes, he makes him get into that icy lake and he like, it it turns out that the lake's a lot colder than they expect. And then he runs a run up a mountain like you just, I I sat and thought about it like I'm such a little bitch.

• 21:06Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 21:06Jonny?

  Like this guy's just gone into Navy SEAL training for a month.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  Sounds like a great book. I'm gonna, I'll get a hold of that then if you'd.

• 21:12Chris Williamson?

  That's cool.

• 21:13Jonny?

  And then so that's the that the take home is like, I think he says at the end, um. How do I get back to it? I don't know. The take the take note, the take home is like, your body will adapt to pretty much whatever you throw at it.

• 21:23Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 21:24Jonny?

  The hard thing is getting, you putting yourself through that process, which is why I need accountability.

• 21:28Chris Williamson?

  I think I think accountability and um someone to direct you is the main take or the the main missing part.

• 21:36Jonny?

  Yep.

• 21:36Chris Williamson?

  Of what most people have got.

• 21:37Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 21:38Chris Williamson?

  But for instance, recently I've started on programming from Maria programming for CrossFit as part of my rehab. And I haven't missed a single day, like up until now, I've always missed days of training, but I know if I miss a day of training, that it's gonna pop up on Fitbot to my coach.

• 21:52Jonny?

  Actually, the water on Steve's laptop.

• 21:54Chris Williamson?

  He's gonna get on his brand new laptop.

• 21:56Jonny?

  Get someone, someone get some.

• 21:58Chris Williamson?

  What? It's not even anywhere near the, it's just on the metal.

• 22:01Jonny?

  I know, but it's not my laptop.

• 22:03Chris Williamson?

  Anyway.

• 22:05Jonny?

  I'm so sorry.

• 22:06Chris Williamson?

  Right, so I am going to do uh swipe right on Spotify. So if you use Spotify on your phone, this is unbelievable and I only found out about it by accidentally doing it. So if you um go on to open up Spotify, browsing through tracks that you want to play. If you press and hold on a track and then swipe to the right, you'll add it to the play queue.

• 22:32Speaker 01

  Johnny's doing it on the album art.

• 22:34Chris Williamson?

  Fucking.

• 22:37Chris Williamson?

  Dear me.

• 22:39Chris Williamson?

  Dear me. Yeah, swipe right, swipe right to add to a queue. And what's really cool is you can start a playlist. So you can be playing through a bunch of songs. There's driving left.

• 22:49Chris Williamson?

  It can be viewed. There you go. So that'll play next and then it'll jump back to the playlist you're in. So let's say.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  That's lovely. I hate having to interrupt her.

• 22:57Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. So let's say that you're listening to an album and you're like, oh, I'm listening to Bring Me The Horizon's new album. I really fancy just having three songs from Misery Signals and one from You Me At Six in there. Quickly jump out, search, swipe, swipe, search again, swipe again, and it'll play those in order. Then jump back to the playlist that you're in. I mean, like, that is, especially for training, it's like making a miniature playlist immediately.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 23:21Chris Williamson?

  And then if you've got your saved songs, you can create a little order of them by doing it that way as well. It's really cool. So, yeah, you should absolutely do that. Swipe right on Spotify now.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  Okay, so back to a physical one for me. Microbikes. I can't remember if we did this in one of three, but these are BPA free. So bisphenol A, which is one of these plastics that secretes, that releases estrogen. Um, so you don't want that. These don't have.

• 23:50Chris Williamson?

  It's really, it's really angry and it sometimes gets passive aggressive.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  In a sort of cyclical nature, yeah. So, so, so don't, um, you want to avoid that. These bags don't have it. You put vegetables or chicken or whatever in, could be frozen, could be room temperature, whatever. You pull off a little sticky bit, fold it over, put it in the microwave. And it microwaves things to tender perfection within two minutes, three minutes. So you could take chicken and because it, it's a semi-permeable bag, so you can put it on a plate. And it fills up with steam that's inherent in the chicken and then like pumps in and out. So it keeps it circulating. Cooks it through evenly, makes it really tender and it's just the best way to cook.

• 24:33Chris Williamson?

  How much are they?

• 24:34Speaker 01

  They are like three pounds for two hundred, something like that. So, like, I bought, I bought a block of them last year. And I've barely used half of them so far.

• 24:47Chris Williamson?

  That's really good.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  Bloody excellent.

• 24:48Chris Williamson?

  That's awesome.

• 24:49Speaker 01

  So you can, so something I do is just like, I'll put in some like a block of frozen ginger, some chicken thighs, some veg. Maybe a bit of spice or something, fold it over, put it in the thing.

• 24:59Chris Williamson?

  So it's like a, it's a, it's a fast slow cooker.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  Yep. Lovely tender chicken.

• 25:06Chris Williamson?

  Nice, that's good. Blob, you got on.

• 25:08Jonny?

  You're the first person that told me that you can microwave chicken.

• 25:11Speaker 01

  It's it's a scary thing. Oh, so yeah, you can't microwave chicken on the bone. Because something to do with the way that bone reacts with the thing, yeah, it doesn't cook the meat around the bone. You can only use boneless chicken when you microwave.

• 25:24Chris Williamson?

  There you go, that's you've got two for one.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  There we go.

• 25:27Jonny?

  Don't microwave boneless chicken.

• 25:28Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, man.

• 25:29Jonny?

  Oh, well, actually, that you can microwave chicken, but not boneless.

• 25:33Chris Williamson?

  Three for one.

• 25:35Jonny?

  Um, have I mentioned my coffee machine?

• 25:39Speaker 01

  No.

• 25:39Jonny?

  Do you remember?

• 25:39Speaker 01

  No.

• 25:40Jonny?

  So this was, I'm stealing as well, but this was mentioned, this was recommended to me by someone else. Um, the, it's really cheap, it was forty quid, which in the context of like a coffee machine is not very much money.

• 25:53Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 25:53Jonny?

  And it's just a drip filter coffee machine.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  What's the brand?

• 25:57Jonny?

  Uh.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  I think the like pod coffee machines are like seventy to.

• 26:00Jonny?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't remember the brand. I can get a link for the, thank you.

• 26:03Chris Williamson?

  Show notes.

• 26:03Speaker 01

  Show notes, Blob.

• 26:04Jonny?

  Um, but basically, uh, it's a cupcake filter, which is metal mesh. There's no like, you don't have to get the paper filters.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay.

• 26:14Jonny?

  And it's got a, some, I guess, a special name for the thing. It's very similar to the thing you've got in the office.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:19Jonny?

  Um, but just having that on a timer for six AM is, has been a massive shift for me.

• 26:25Speaker 01

  It's forty quid.

• 26:26Jonny?

  Cause I, yeah, and like.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  And what does it take? Ground?

• 26:29Jonny?

  Uh, yeah, ground, yeah. So I I've also bought, I also bought a coffee grinder, but I'm a bit of a coffee snob. Like I would just have.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  Aficionado, I think.

• 26:38Jonny?

  Aficionado, yeah. Like, don't, don't.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  You don't mind, that's the thing, that's the difference between aficionado and snob. Cause you don't mind having shit coffee.

• 26:46Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 26:47Speaker 01

  As long as you have some coffee.

• 26:48Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  But you can also appreciate.

• 26:51Jonny?

  So when, when I'm at home and I I I can make some nice coffee, I like to. So put it, I put the grounds in the night before and then just, I wait, I walk downstairs.

• 27:01Speaker 01

  And you've got.

• 27:01Jonny?

  And there's a hot jug of coffee that's really nice that keeps it hot.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  And you've refined the blend to.

• 27:07Jonny?

  So you can set the strength and set the, um, obviously the amount of water, the amount of coffee.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. I'm getting deja vu about the coffee machine and the Spotify swipe right.

• 27:18Chris Williamson?

  Haven't done.

• 27:18Jonny?

  So the Spotify swipe right is definitely not, I've not heard that before.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:21Chris Williamson?

  And that one wasn't. He's done, uh, he did take coffee into work to save you money on.

• 27:28Jonny?

  Oh, yeah, the double, double contiguos.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:30Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 27:31Chris Williamson?

  So, don't worry, man.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:33Chris Williamson?

  Um. So next up for me, I've been wanting to do this one for ages and I didn't really know how to put it across. So if you are in this day and age and you're still using the word gay as a colloquial casual word that essentially means rubbish, you're just asking for trouble.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 27:57Chris Williamson?

  Like you will get someone somewhere is going to find real problem with it and rightly so, because you shouldn't be using that word. So I think a lot of the time what people mean when they say gay is lame or rubbish. But what comes out is a word which is quite um fiery, you know, elicits reactions. They don't mean that gay is rubbish. That's just the word that they go to for it. So what I realised was, this is a long time ago, it's like five, longer than five years ago, I needed to cycle that word completely out of my language. I didn't want to resort to it at all. But like when you stub your toe and you go,

• 28:39Chris Williamson?

  fuck, it was just, it was reactionary for me. So what I needed to do was come up with a solution for how I was no longer going to be, no longer going to use that word. And for me, it was cycling out the word gay and using the word lame. And the advantage of using the word lame is it sounds so much like the word that you were using, that you, it's a seamless transition between the two. And after forcing yourself to say the word lame about for three weeks, four weeks, the word gay is out of your vocabulary and you're now, you've insulated yourself from being in the centre of a big scandal.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  So I'm gonna be the the nov end, the uh the devil's advocate for this. But lame, some, I, I like, this is people who are looking to be offended by stuff, but some people would conflate lame with someone who is paralytic or disabled.

• 29:33Chris Williamson?

  Mm hmm.

• 29:33Speaker 01

  And so then it's like, oh, it's referring to it as that. But I think the defence is, something can be lame with no reference to that. Whereas if you're calling something gay, that you can't fall back on, like, oh, I just meant like the happy version of gay. It's not quite the same. But like the words cretin, idiot, imbecile, moron, all of those were clinical terms for someone with subnormal IQ until they became.

• 29:59Chris Williamson?

  Indoctrinated.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, it just became a standard vocabulary and then they became a.

• 30:03Chris Williamson?

  So the etymology of all of those words are medical.

• 30:06Speaker 01

  They were all medical words and it's spastic.

• 30:08Jonny?

  I suppose the difference there is that what someone's, someone's using that to almost try and get that across, aren't they?

• 30:15Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 30:15Jonny?

  Like whereas saying something's gay, like you aren't saying that person's, that's homosexual, you're, you're just using it as a way of.

• 30:22Chris Williamson?

  People have conflated that word with meaning lame or rubbish essentially.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  So like you were saying, you stub your toe, you are shit. You, you don't mean like, oh, feces. You, you mean like, it's just a.

• 30:34Chris Williamson?

  Bad, a bad thing. That's when, when people.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  JP was saying, it's the same circuitry that's like screaming, like a primal scream.

• 30:39Chris Williamson?

  If you've ever heard someone accuse someone else of, that's being a wimp, if they've ever used the F word. To rather not say, because that's a little bit, that elicits a little bit more, um.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  The bundle of sticks.

• 30:51Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  Right.

• 30:52Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, uh, pork balls, pork balls, faggot balls.

• 30:58Speaker 01

  Pork ball, I've seen them in the.

• 30:59Chris Williamson?

  Pork faggots. They don't mean that's a bundle of pork balls.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 31:07Chris Williamson?

  You're a pork ball. They don't mean that.

• 31:10Speaker 01

  But I think we should start using that.

• 31:11Chris Williamson?

  What they mean is you're a wuss, you're a nancy boy, you're a pussy.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  I wonder if wuss and wimp were originally.

• 31:18Chris Williamson?

  Anyway, my point is, my point is that you shouldn't be using the word gay to refer to anything really and cycling it out and using the word lame is the easiest route for, that I think you can find to doing it. And once you start doing it, lame actually sounds, a lot of people understand what you mean a lot more, a lot more effectively.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  Mm.

• 31:34Chris Williamson?

  And it sounds quite good. It's nicely rounded.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  There are some gay people I know that use gay as a derogatory term as well, but I think it's almost like.

• 31:42Chris Williamson?

  Black people using the N word.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's kind of like a, a semi ironic.

• 31:46Chris Williamson?

  You're allowed to, right? You're allowed to. I'm just, the reason I'm laughing.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  Other Paccies.

• 31:51Jonny?

  I was laughing at the video from Who Is America?

• 31:54Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 31:55Jonny?

  That definitely watch that series.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Well, you know, in ISIS, if they think that you are homosexual, it is the worst thing that could happen. So you need to drop the pants and shout America and it's on it. Yeah. Definitely watch it if anyone happens.

• 32:09Jonny?

  It's worth watching as well.

• 32:10Speaker 01

  It's not really a comedy. It's just frightening.

• 32:11Jonny?

  Yeah, it's it's.

• 32:13Chris Williamson?

  It's a social experiment by Sacha Baron Cohen trolling all of America, isn't it?

• 32:17Jonny?

  Have you seen Rowan Atkinson's thing about offence recently?

• 32:21Chris Williamson?

  He's got in a load of shit, right?

• 32:23Jonny?

  I don't know how much trouble he's got in, but I I think it's fantastic.

• 32:26Chris Williamson?

  I haven't seen it.

• 32:27Jonny?

  He's basically saying like the the culture, the society is moving more and more towards this idea that people that like we should protect people from people from being offended. And he's saying actually the flip side, like we should people should be offended, getting offended all the time because it's the only way to insulate yourself from it.

• 32:43Chris Williamson?

  This nanny state culture is what the snowflake kind of community in America has come from. I don't know. I'd be interested to hear in the comments below if um viewers from America do see this, but to me, everything we see from America that comes out is kind of like a sitcom. I can't tell the difference between a seminar that's got someone shouting at Ben Shapiro and an episode of Arrested Development. Like, do you know what I mean? It's it's just all one and the same.

• 33:08Speaker 01

  This is Poe's law, isn't it? Where if you were to, on the internet, if you were to try and characterize and um do a sarcastic

• 33:21Speaker 01

  uh post or something about about a view and it's taken seriously or you you can't actually caricaturize it enough. But I'm gonna have to find the the exact.

• 33:32Chris Williamson?

  I understand what you mean though. So, yeah, my my my point is that in America at the moment, it does seem like there's this hyper snowflake, super protectionist nanny state kind of.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  Hmm. That it seems like a parody. So so this was it. It was like without a clear indicator of sarcasm in the author's in the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it can't be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the parodied views.

• 33:57Chris Williamson?

  Mm hmm. So that's the problem. That's the problem when people take real world examples to extremes. When people become offended at absolutely anything, you can't take the piss out of being offended at anything because someone actually was.

• 34:09Speaker 01

  Well, it's impossible to parody a creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake that for a genuine creationist article.

• 34:16Jonny?

  Yeah, fair enough. So, yeah, so my point is really just leading on from what you were saying, which I understand. It's like, don't say this because it offends people. But it's like in the same way that, you know, people are now opposed to vaccines. Like, all that is is exposure to something to build resilience to it. And actually, like.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  The more you insulate yourself, the more sensitive and raw you become.

• 34:35Jonny?

  Precisely. Because eventually you will get offended by something and then it'll be cataclysmic.

• 34:39Chris Williamson?

  But there's some, there's some things that I think that you shouldn't. There's certain areas that you can avoid being offensive in quite easily. And language, language is one of them. I'm not asking you to compromise on your views. I'm not asking you to change anything about the core tenet of who you are. I'm just saying the way that you express yourself could be done in a way which

• 35:05Chris Williamson?

  loses you nothing, but gains someone else a lot and also gains you a lot as well.

• 35:11Jonny?

  Yeah, so I think the key thing is like.

• 35:13Chris Williamson?

  You net a huge positive.

• 35:14Jonny?

  It's, it's using same things unnecessarily, like, because all it is, it's just lazy language, isn't it, really? It's like a filler word. And if that's going to offend someone, it's easy to change.

• 35:23Chris Williamson?

  Fuck it, swap it out.

• 35:23Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 35:24Chris Williamson?

  Yeah. And if you want to stand a hard line on, like, First Amendment, then, um, sweet, but.

• 35:32Speaker 01

  It was, it's a weird thing to take a stand on because it's an accidental homophobic comment. When actually, like, it doesn't reflect anyone's views a lot of the time. Like, and if, if it really does, and you're a true homophobe, then all the power to you because you're being as authentic as possible.

• 35:46Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, true. You're living with, living with virtue, but you're going to get lynched by some guy.

• 35:49Jonny?

  It's not really still being used correctly. So like.

• 35:52Chris Williamson?

  Actually, yeah, you're right. If, if nothing else, what we're doing here is correcting, correcting the use of the word. Like, if there's some homosexual squirrels and you go, that's gay.

• 36:05Chris Williamson?

  Correct. Good, yeah. Yeah.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 36:08Chris Williamson?

  Docking.

• 36:10Chris Williamson?

  Date to date. Right, come on, what's next?

• 36:11Speaker 01

  We, we needed a gay man on the podcast.

• 36:13Chris Williamson?

  Was, I'm still searching for one. I was gonna use my hairdresser. What was it for? To work out if you were a bummer or a bummy. Uh, someone replied, didn't they? Surely we had a message about it? I didn't.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Someone saying, I'll come on the podcast.

• 36:26Chris Williamson?

  I think we maybe had a message.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 36:28Chris Williamson?

  Someone giving us an answer. I don't remember if it, yeah. Uh, right, next, Scoldly.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  Is it your turn?

• 36:32Chris Williamson?

  It's you.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  Okay, so mine is digital is not always better. And I think this is because like, since we're all so far down the life hack rabbit hole, it's easy to think that like, if we get the smart light bulb and the smart lock and all this stuff, like, maybe just me, like, I always think, oh, great, it's a new development. No, I saw a smart lock that was a hundred dollars to buy, clearly millions of pounds of research.

• 37:00Chris Williamson?

  Why, why dollars?

• 37:02Speaker 01

  Uh, it's like an American company, like on one of those starter Kickstarter fun things. Millions of pounds of research into it. And this guy, who's just like a handyman, did a video about it. And he was like, right, so I'm gonna look at this lock, it's got a fingerprint sensor here, it's got a really like special encrypted lock mechanism and whatever. He was like, right, let's just turn it over. And the back, he would, he just with a, with like a sleeve and a little sticky little bit of sellotape or something, he just twisted the back and it came off. And then there was a sin- single screw, unscrewed it, the battery was there, pulled out the battery and the thing just unlocked. And he's like, and he's like, right, so, um, yes, it's very secure from the front, but, uh.

• 37:42Chris Williamson?

  If anyone gets it off.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  You can literally just twist it off. He's like, this wouldn't require any equipment apart from a screwdriver. And so.

• 37:49Chris Williamson?

  Surely for it to come off though, it's no longer on the door, in which case how is unlocking it?

• 37:54Speaker 01

  So it's like a padlock that you can.

• 37:56Chris Williamson?

  Oh, right.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  So I think, I think really non-secure.

• 37:59Chris Williamson?

  The, uh, core value of what you're talking about here is that we always presume that newest is best.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:05Chris Williamson?

  And the, uh, reading guide that's available on fs.blog, which is the Farnham Street blog I'm currently addicted to. Thank you very much, George McGill.

• 38:16Chris Williamson?

  On that, they talk about people never want to read books that are more than 10 years old. Is that, well, the classics are classics for a reason?

• 38:23Speaker 01

  They've lasted hundreds of years.

• 38:24Chris Williamson?

  Like, if Marcus Aurelius's meditations have existed for thousands of years, why do you think people still read them?

• 38:29Speaker 01

  I'm reading that now, actually.

• 38:30Chris Williamson?

  Unbelievable. Like, you know, and the same with fiction. People think that the, what's shinier and has the most clickbaity title is always what's best.

• 38:42Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 38:42Chris Williamson?

  Like, there's tried and tested solutions. That's not to say like, oh, well, horses have been around for ages, therefore we don't need cars.

• 38:51Speaker 01

  I wonder whether part of that's the effort thing that, like, you see now that people know how to tap into our, like, oh, top five tips to, to be productive. And you're like, oh, well, I'll read that rather than, like, sit and read some hard book because it's older and it's more difficult to penetrate.

• 39:06Chris Williamson?

  Well, definitely for me, I didn't enjoy, I found it more difficult to relate David Allen's Getting Things Done to nowadays because he's talking about pages and file faxes and stuff. And I'm like, no, no, I need this optimized for Evernote and iCloud.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  I suppose they, oh, really?

• 39:25Chris Williamson?

  Where is it?

• 39:26Jonny?

  On Getting Things Done. They have a membership website. In fact, you know what? I'm gonna wait, I'll talk about that in a moment.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  Okay, so just on, on the digital is not always better thing. Um, I got a couple of smart light bulbs after one of our friends was, was raving about the Philips Hue. He's all amazing, excellent. I drive into my house, my garage door opens, and then the lights come on in sequins, my kettle comes on, and then like these, um, I get kicked out of my mattress in these trousers, I get put into the trousers, and then the toaster comes up and the jar.

• 39:54Jonny?

  And then my dog called Grommet puts on the wrong trousers.

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, the wrong trousers. And, so I got a cheap version, but now.

• 40:02Chris Williamson?

  No, no, you've bypassed very, very quickly there, the key issue.

• 40:08Speaker 01

  Which is that cheap version.

• 40:10Chris Williamson?

  Yes.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  I did, but it wouldn't be any, the problem I'm going to describe would be no different with any of these more expensive ones. And that is that it renders your light switch redundant, because all the light switch does is activate the wifi. And so if you switch it off, you've turned off the smart function. If you turn it on, you then have to go and find your phone from wherever, wherever it is in the house, scroll to the app, open the app, wait for it to connect, turn off the light or turn on the light. So if anything, it makes turning on or off a light so many more steps.

• 40:43Chris Williamson?

  Mm hmm. I went into your room yesterday.

• 40:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:45Chris Williamson?

  Click the light.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you have to turn it off, then on, then off and on again for it to work as a normal light. So.

• 40:52Chris Williamson?

  Jesus Christ.

• 40:53Speaker 01

  So, so like, and same with my microwave. I've got a analog microwave that you just twist the thing and it goes bing.

• 40:59Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 40:59Speaker 01

  Absolutely great. Like, so when I'm using the micro bags, put it in, just turn it a bit, rather than having to faff around with like defrost mode and put in the number of minutes. And it's like, if you want just the minimum number of, so like same padlock light switch.

• 41:14Chris Williamson?

  I think this is, I think this is why progress, especially technologically occurs in large jumps.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 41:22Chris Williamson?

  And the incremental changes that occur in between them are really people just repackaging shit that already exists.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  You heard about the Bluetooth salt shaker?

• 41:32Speaker 01

  And I, I don't know what, what it needs, like what function it, they've done. But someone's been like, oh, Bluetooth is a thing. Let's just put it in a salt shaker. And you're like, it's, it's going to be five times the price. It's going to break. And you have to have a device to.

• 41:46Chris Williamson?

  So I, like the way that I feel about the smart bulbs thing, and I, I've seen them in the apple shop for, been around for a while. And I've always looked at it and thought like, what, like, what is that solving for people?

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Because ultimately you want a bulb to be on or off, don't you?

• 42:00Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 42:00Speaker 01

  And the thing that's been, that's given me the most value, and I, I get so excited when it happens every time, is, is just a physical plug timer. You know, the old school, like you, you set the time, plug it in, and then when it gets dark, the lights just come on on their own. And it's like, that was like a two pound thing that you just plug your light into.

• 42:18Chris Williamson?

  So someone, someone may disagree. I'm going to, I can think of a number of viewers who will disagree, but. For me, smart homes at the moment are just, everybody wants to have some Elon Musk three thousand and eighteen fucking like glass, infinity glass everywhere, controlled like equilibrium, you've seen equilibrium, like like that, that's what they want. And you're like, no, it's not. Like, all that your Alexa can do is fucking save things to your notes with misspelled words in, or like add shit to a shopping cart.

• 42:52Jonny?

  Spotify or.

• 42:53Chris Williamson?

  It's it's bollocks. Like, the technology is so far behind what we need. One of the things that I know Philip Hugh does, you can have in your room, you can have the lights hooked up to your TV. And when stuff happens on your TV, it'll move the light. So let's say a car's coming towards you, it's a blue car, it'll make blue go around the room. Okay, cool. That's quite a kind of interesting cinematic.

• 43:16Speaker 01

  It's an epileptics wet dream, isn't it? Like, it's just such a like.

• 43:20Jonny?

  Well, it's it's nice. It's not necessary. And like, I think the point of smart home is it's you're moving.

• 43:25Chris Williamson?

  It should make it easier.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  It could be distracting. So Darren, you know, you're cuddling up, like you've got the the nice synthetic blanket on.

• 43:31Jonny?

  Hmm.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  And you just wanna have a peaceful.

• 43:33Jonny?

  And so you think the police are outside.

• 43:34Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:35Chris Williamson?

  Darren got a Nest home thing for a thermostat. He's like, oh, well, you know, apparently it learns.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  But you got the hub.

• 43:42Jonny?

  Careful, cause.

• 43:43Chris Williamson?

  Maybe, I don't know. I don't know what he got. He got.

• 43:44Jonny?

  Supporters.

• 43:45Chris Williamson?

  He got, he got, yeah, no. So he got he got a thing and he was like, yeah, so it learns when you're at home and it turns it up and turns it off and it's supposed to make it. He's like, but because I don't have a routineized life, I'm getting in and the house is fucking freezing from work. And I'm getting back and it's not that. And it thinks it's learning. He's like, I've just turned it off. He's gotten to the stage now where he's using what my mum and dad use, which is the switch on the front of the boiler.

• 44:09Jonny?

  Wow.

• 44:09Chris Williamson?

  You know, the one that's inside the timer.

• 44:11Jonny?

  It's going straight to the mainframe and.

• 44:13Chris Williamson?

  Oh, yeah, he's bypassed everything. So, yeah, I think you like, technology isn't always better. It's a real, a real nice one.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  But, yeah, like, just because it's a smart thing.

• 44:23Chris Williamson?

  Fucking selective.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:24Chris Williamson?

  Like, if you're buying anything smart for your home, I think you need probably at least twice the scrutiny, if not more.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  Just like have a problem that you want it to solve, don't just.

• 44:34Chris Williamson?

  Think like, and the mistake that I had with the light bulbs is there was no problem I was trying to solve. I just thought.

• 44:38Jonny?

  It's just exciting.

• 44:39Chris Williamson?

  Occam's razor.

• 44:40Jonny?

  So an example is the is the coffee machine, like, that's not complex.

• 44:44Chris Williamson?

  You want a coffee in the morning.

• 44:44Jonny?

  Solves a problem, or it makes something that I already do a little bit quicker.

• 44:47Chris Williamson?

  The most direct route between that.

• 44:49Jonny?

  Which not like, cause so so the person who recommended, you said got all the stuff, it's Ben, Ben's watching, this is all your fault. He he he was getting excited because Nespresso have released a wifi coffee machine. And I was like, okay. But what are you gonna do? What are you gonna use that for?

• 45:05Chris Williamson?

  Is it so you could let's flick it on from when you're away?

• 45:06Jonny?

  Yeah, but like.

• 45:08Chris Williamson?

  So Benny had the same thing, got a wifi kettle, and he's like, well, I still have to fill up the kettle.

• 45:12Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 45:14Jonny?

  Precisely. So like, there's still, and also like, how, how, how fine tuned is everybody's life? Where like, the minute that would you would take to go and press the kettle on.

• 45:26Chris Williamson?

  So here's.

• 45:26Jonny?

  You can't, you can't give that up anymore.

• 45:28Chris Williamson?

  I think for a lot of the people that are gonna be watching, who are potentially uh obsessive optimizers. Of which I guess we broadly fall into categories to one degree or another. You need to look at, am I, am I avoiding the hard but important stuff?

• 45:47Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 45:48Chris Williamson?

  To just tack something onto the side. Like, if you're sitting in bed, looking at your phone for fifteen minutes before you get up in the morning. Like, what the fuck's your wifi kettle doing?

• 45:58Jonny?

  Exactly, exactly.

• 45:59Chris Williamson?

  That is, that is lame.

• 46:02Jonny?

  Yeah, I feel that way about so many. It's like people, it's like when someone's obsessing about saving money on a purchase. And then they like, spend a lot of money on a night out.

• 46:10Chris Williamson?

  Well, they're paying hundreds of pounds of interest on credit cards.

• 46:13Jonny?

  Yeah, but they're like, but they're like, you know, I don't buy lattes. I don't buy Starbucks coffee, it's a waste of money. It's like, you are looking at. A tiny piece of a puzzle that is cracking and broken and like. So it's, yeah.

• 46:25Chris Williamson?

  I think that as a, a whole massive topic, we probably should cover. In an upcoming episode, because I've been thinking about it an awful lot recently, I've been reflecting on trying to do the basics just really, really well.

• 46:39Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 46:40Chris Williamson?

  And that's where you elicit the, because downstream from the basics, there's a lot more things that go right. If you don't use your phone in the morning before you do your entire morning routine. You laughing? The rest of your day will go so smoothly.

• 46:54Jonny?

  So I think there's a, there's a simplicity in, in any field, you get to the point where it's like, actually, all you need to do is this simple thing really well, really consistently. We were speaking about this with productivity, how there's an article from Tim Ferriss where he talks about, um, if all you did was work uninterrupted for two to three hours in the morning on the most important thing for you to do that day.

• 47:17Chris Williamson?

  The thing that scares you the most.

• 47:18Jonny?

  You would be like up in the top percentiles of the most productive people in the world.

• 47:22Chris Williamson?

  Totally right.

• 47:22Jonny?

  See, you don't need like Evernote and, and anything, you need a list of things, look at it and go, what's the most important thing?

• 47:27Chris Williamson?

  I'm gonna do it.

• 47:28Jonny?

  I'm gonna do just that for three hours and it, but like, people don't do that because doing the most uncomfortable thing is often like intimidating, difficult, like we procrastinate on it, we don't wanna do it. And there's that thing in, in everything like.

• 47:42Chris Williamson?

  Well, we believe that the object that we're going to purchase is going to be the answer to our questions.

• 47:47Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 47:48Chris Williamson?

  Like it's the exact same reason as to why people believe in fat burning tablets. Or why this next diet is gonna be the next thing. You're like, no, you just really could do with doing some exercise. How often are you training a week? Oh, well, I, I, I, I got in to do a morning walk on Sunday and you're like, okay, why the fuck are you bothered about a fat burning tablet when you're not training? Like, yeah, and the same thing with, I, I fall prey to it all the time. Like the other day I was going to buy a new meditation cushion. I'm like, oh, the.

• 48:22Jonny?

  Not that one, not the, not the hundred and twenty quid one.

• 48:24Chris Williamson?

  For heaven's sake.

• 48:25Jonny?

  Bloody hell. I was gonna get a new meditation cushion. I'm like, you don't need a new meditation cushion. It's not going to help you meditate.

• 48:31Chris Williamson?

  The other one that we're referring to is like a hundred and thirty dollars.

• 48:34Jonny?

  What's it called? Can you remember what it's called?

• 48:35Chris Williamson?

  I can't remember, but it's, it's like a, it's, it's a vegan friendly.

• 48:38Jonny?

  Non-GMO, paleo, gluten free.

• 48:43Chris Williamson?

  Really clever because they've got a really like, nice like sales page and it's.

• 48:46Jonny?

  It's just, at that point you sit on the floor.

• 48:48Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 48:48Jonny?

  If you're that worried about what's.

• 48:49Chris Williamson?

  That's what I was like, I, I can just sit on the floor. I have a floor.

• 48:52Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 48:52Chris Williamson?

  I don't need any.

• 48:53Jonny?

  You have a floor wherever you go. There's always a floor.

• 48:55Chris Williamson?

  There's environmental impact of making any.

• 48:57Jonny?

  Unless you're a fish. If you're a fish, you could do with that cushion.

• 49:01Chris Williamson?

  If you're a fish, yes.

• 49:02Jonny?

  It's still technically a floor.

• 49:04Chris Williamson?

  You might not be able to get down there. And there's those angler.

• 49:07Jonny?

  Make your ears pop.

• 49:08Chris Williamson?

  There's those angular ones.

• 49:09Jonny?

  Things with the, the ball, the light ball, yeah, and the big teeth. Yeah. Yeah.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  So very interested if anyone's watching and they're thinking like, you're just not using smart light system correctly.

• 49:21Jonny?

  So I just looked up on the Philips Hue website, cause I thought, like, I wonder whether Philips Hue have thought about it, but it says your, your main light switches are redundant with Philips Hue.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  Really?

• 49:29Jonny?

  Yeah, I think they're, they're bringing out smart switches.

• 49:32Speaker 01

  Okay, I mean, if, yeah, like, I'd like to know.

• 49:35Jonny?

  Which, the, the irony goes beyond what I think we're able to discuss. Like when, when it's like, let's make a smart light, oh fuck, uh, let's make switches, we can put on the wall. There is, I think there is something where you can get paint that you just touch the wall and it turns the light on. Now that, I think is fantastic.

• 49:55Speaker 01

  So you could turn, turn the light on or off anywhere, like a double tap.

• 49:58Jonny?

  Solving a problem. The problem is getting up and turning the light on and off.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  But, so I imagine the paint is three times as expensive, you still have to get three.

• 50:07Jonny?

  Yeah, of course.

• 50:08Speaker 01

  And like the whole thing and.

• 50:11Jonny?

  That the Philips Hue is trying to solve, which is that it's, it's inconvenient sometimes.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  The difference there is that there's someone for whom that cost is going to be insignificant. And for them, that's okay. Whereas for no one, the inconvenience is acceptable of the light switch not working.

• 50:29Jonny?

  Yep, true.

• 50:30Speaker 01

  Johnny, you're up, you got one?

• 50:32Jonny?

  Yes, I do. Um, and it's, it's sort of on the same, in the same vein, it's another book recommendation. Um, and it is. Happy by Darren Brown.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  This is the one where he slates The Secret by Rhonda Byrne, isn't it?

• 50:46Jonny?

  He slates a lot of shit. He slates a lot of what we speak about on this podcast. And I listened to it on a plane. I'm on a way to one of many weddings that I've been to.

• 50:56Speaker 01

  That's the reason Johnny hasn't been on the.

• 50:58Jonny?

  I've just been stacking weddings. I just love a good wedding, so I've just been going to them.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Can you do wedding hacks?

• 51:04Jonny?

  Probably, yeah.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  Them, didn't you, so?

• 51:06Jonny?

  Not on purpose. I was, I was actually really grateful for the way that they were batched, but anyway. Um, so I remember I got on the plane, it's five hour flight to Cyprus, listening to Darren Brown's book on two times speed. Got on the plane, like, still, you know, goal focused, productivity focused, got off the plane thinking. I'm not sure there's any point, honestly.

• 51:27Chris Williamson?

  Can you give us a synopsis?

• 51:28Jonny?

  So he he speaks a lot about um. He uses concepts, borrows concepts from a lot of people, borrows a lot of concepts from stoicism. Um borrows some concepts from like thinking fast and slow and predictably irrational. But basically that we are always just constructing a reality to try and create happiness. But happiness is never something that we'll arrive at. And it's it's all it's more about the experience and the process. So he rubbishes a lot of goal setting. And stuff that I remember starting him starting going into it thinking. I I I feel like from the amount of reading I've done on this, I've got a pretty well formed opinion. And I was like, you know what? He's he's right. Like it's.

• 52:09Chris Williamson?

  He just Trojan hosed you.

• 52:10Jonny?

  Cause he he's clearly, for anyone who follows Darren Brown, like he's clearly a very intelligent man. He's taken the concept of happiness and thought. I'm gonna really dig into this.

• 52:19Chris Williamson?

  The steamroller.

• 52:19Jonny?

  And he's gone, he's dug up lots of of concepts from lots of different places. Um and I think really it comes back to, so he talks about how you can be convinced to believe anything, which is the the.

• 52:31Chris Williamson?

  That's what he does, right?

• 52:32Jonny?

  All of his work, yes. He's like, I've convinced people to believe that they've been.

• 52:36Chris Williamson?

  Zombie apocalypse.

• 52:37Jonny?

  Exactly. Um so with that, you can also be convinced that you are or aren't happy by a series of stories or thoughts you believe. Um and that goal setting or chasing something, you're convincing yourself during that process that you will be happy when it happens. But you never are. So I'll read the book. If you've got Audible, that's how I listen to it.

• 52:59Chris Williamson?

  It sounds like, it sounds, obviously I haven't read it, but it sounds a lot to me like um the argument to hedonic adaptation. Which is this object is going to give me fulfillment. You, what we are doing with the goal setting is just replacing the object with the goal.

• 53:16Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 53:16Chris Williamson?

  However, the difference that I think there is that when you break goals down into targets that are daily targets. You get a different sense of fulfillment from overcoming an obstacle.

• 53:26Jonny?

  Definitely, yeah.

• 53:27Chris Williamson?

  Like you don't get a sense of fulfillment from saving ten pounds towards the car.

• 53:34Chris Williamson?

  But the steps are more granular.

• 53:36Jonny?

  Feeling like you're moving, feeling like you're making progress and moving forward.

• 53:39Chris Williamson?

  Over overcoming and having adversity and getting past it, I think is a core tenet of what makes human life quite worthwhile.

• 53:48Jonny?

  Something that a guy called Tim Urban, who writes a blog called Wait But Why, which is also fantastic. He talks about happiness as being like, like nailing a Tuesday of like, not, I think most people live their lives in a way of like, I will be happy in, I, I will be happy on Friday night. I will be happy when I'm on holiday. I will be happy when I've had a promotion, rather than like, today was mint and like tomorrow's going to be class as well.

• 54:15Chris Williamson?

  Remember when that was one of the names for this podcast before I did it, it was going to be called Crushing.

• 54:18Jonny?

  Crushing a Tuesday.

• 54:19Chris Williamson?

  Crushing a Tuesday.

• 54:20Jonny?

  Or do I have to go and get Lex? And if anyone wants to know the reason for that, they can send us a message.

• 54:26Chris Williamson?

  We can do a full podcast on why we need to go and get Lex.

• 54:29Jonny?

  We always do. So yeah, read Darren Brown Happy and check out Wait But Why by Tim Urban.

• 54:33Chris Williamson?

  Fantastic. I'm going to do a couple. We haven't done Dropbox.

• 54:41Chris Williamson?

  We haven't done Dropbox. So if you don't know what Dropbox is, it is a cloud-based file storage system. There's a number of ways that you can do that. Apple have got one built in. Amazon even have one. So I opened up a Kindle Fire.

• 54:54Jonny?

  AWS, is that what you mean? AWS and Web Services.

• 54:59Chris Williamson?

  Is that what it is?

• 54:59Jonny?

  Well, so AWS is like the hub, the beast of like, I, I, I didn't realise it. Let's not talk about it, it's too complicated, for honesty.

• 55:10Speaker 01

  It's like the, the veins of the world.

• 55:13Jonny?

  So most, most things that you interact with, it's a file. It's probably on AWS.

• 55:17Chris Williamson?

  Bloody hell. Okay.

• 55:19Jonny?

  Just Jeff Bezos in the centre of it all.

• 55:21Chris Williamson?

  Anyway, Dropbox is a cloud, a cloud-based file hosting service. But the difference is that if you've got it on, do they have a map? What's funny?

• 55:31Speaker 01

  I'm just convinced that Dropbox and the other two were on one of the previous.

• 55:36Jonny?

  Oh, right.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  It's not. If there's anyone who listens ardently to the.

• 55:40Chris Williamson?

  I've got them written down.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  Well, you've got all the ones that we covered in each one. Yes.

• 55:45Chris Williamson?

  Dropbox hasn't been in there.

• 55:46Jonny?

  Was there any, as soon as we move onto this screen. Yusef will have, like, onto a laptop. There'll be a very good reason why Yusef does or doesn't do anything.

• 55:58Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 55:59Jonny?

  And so.

• 55:59Chris Williamson?

  But you use Dropbox.

• 56:01Jonny?

  Like, but using a laptop.

• 56:02Chris Williamson?

  We're in, we're in your domain, we're in your domain now, we've stepped into your.

• 56:06Jonny?

  Like, this is one of the most optimized pieces of technology I've ever seen in my life. And, like, I know you don't pay for Dropbox.

• 56:12Chris Williamson?

  But I'm basically, I don't have. I don't pay for Dropbox.

• 56:14Jonny?

  Yeah, but, but you, you, you.

• 56:17Chris Williamson?

  If I knew how to code, I, I feel like I should probably sit and learn how to do it, because it would help optimize things a lot more.

• 56:22Jonny?

  But you still get a lot out of, like, the user interface that Apple provide.

• 56:26Chris Williamson?

  I see, yeah.

• 56:27Jonny?

  You, you're absolutely, what? Nothing, I'm just waiting.

• 56:35Jonny?

  Suppose this was Chris's lifetime. And now you and I just have the chat. About when you fucking start paying for Dropbox.

• 56:43Chris Williamson?

  Well, yeah, so that, that's where it kind of ran to us.

• 56:45Jonny?

  But, but, there's, you have a very good reason for that, which is, which is because you have a system that's very.

• 56:50Chris Williamson?

  Most people, most people don't have a system that's as efficient as yours.

• 56:54Jonny?

  I see.

• 56:55Chris Williamson?

  The reason, the reason that Dropbox is. Do a webby.

• 56:58Jonny?

  He's doing a webinar on laptop, what, what's it?

• 57:00Chris Williamson?

  Alfred.

• 57:01Jonny?

  Just pure. It's just an Alfred?

• 57:02Chris Williamson?

  Because I, I think that the laptop optimization is a whole other webinar, I think. That's volumes, that's tomes of books, isn't it?

• 57:08Jonny?

  That's a, that's a university curriculum. Degree, so.

• 57:12Chris Williamson?

  Oh, God.

• 57:13Jonny?

  Um.

• 57:13Chris Williamson?

  Right. The reason you need Dropbox mostly is not because of the fact that it's able to, uh, host files online, it's the integration and how seamless it is. So if you download the app for your Mac, you have, or I'm gonna guess there's an equivalent on Windows, if you're on Windows, get off.

• 57:29Chris Williamson?

  Exit now.

• 57:30Jonny?

  Get off the podcast.

• 57:32Chris Williamson?

  Just fuck off, will you?

• 57:33Jonny?

  Get off.

• 57:34Chris Williamson?

  You are, this is not for you, um.

• 57:38Chris Williamson?

  Dropbox for Mac makes all of your files inhabit a native folder on Finder. So you can browse them as if they're files on your computer, which they are. But then the app on your phone also does the same thing, so it's a much more natural way of browsing through your files. What are you grinning about?

• 57:57Jonny?

  I'm just waiting, oh, here it is.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  It feels an awful lot like, have you ever seen in volleyball, what's the thing before the spike? You know, like they'll happen by the net.

• 58:07Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 01

  Layup, yes. I've just done this and you're coming in.

• 58:11Chris Williamson?

  Running over.

• 58:12Speaker 01

  So I, I was ready to pay um like fifty to eighty pounds a month for Dropbox when they launched Dropbox Infinity, where they were going to.

• 58:21Jonny?

  Yep.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  And then they redacted it because it mustn't have fit with the like file architecture of the.

• 58:26Jonny?

  If Dropbox would, would bring out Infinity and if WhatsApp would bring out WhatsApp Business for iOS, you'd make him the happiest man.

• 58:33Speaker 01

  And probably the poorest man as well. Instantly just go for the, so, so the Dropbox Infinity is the same as what Chris is describing, but.

• 58:40Jonny?

  It's everything.

• 58:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, your entire laptop.

• 58:41Jonny?

  So your laptop would be Dropbox.

• 58:42Chris Williamson?

  It's, it's, it's the, the key things that you need. So for instance, all of the audio files I have, as soon as I bounce them down and I master them, I put them in one.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  Master them.

• 58:51Chris Williamson?

  Master. Put them in one folder. Video Guide Dean has got access to that and we don't even, I don't even need to email him. Everything's put on there. Um, if you want to sign up to Dropbox, there will be a link in the show notes below. You'll get five hundred megabytes of extra space as well. I thank you very much because I need it. But you should, you should download it and you should have a crack. Download the app. The app for iOS is really slick. You can browse through things and you don't have to save stuff. Can preview files, preview video, preview sound. It's good, good for you.

• 59:22Jonny?

  Also, like, so I, I do pay for Dropbox. Do you pay for Dropbox, Chris?

• 59:26Chris Williamson?

  No.

• 59:26Jonny?

  No. Um, I get a terabyte of storage for eight pounds a month.

• 59:31Chris Williamson?

  Fuck.

• 59:31Jonny?

  And I think that's pretty bloody good.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  I think you were gonna sell Chris on that soon and then you'll both bully me.

• 59:36Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, you'll get it.

• 59:37Jonny?

  But you're, you don't, you don't need it. Like you, you probably have four instances a month where it's like if you had Dropbox.

• 59:43Chris Williamson?

  I'd make it easier.

• 59:44Jonny?

  And you would, I, I, I'll use, I'll be terrible with it. Like I'll be under utilizing it and.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  Oh, I see.

• 59:49Jonny?

  But, but you would, you would, you would set up a little, like, an ecosystem and it was.

• 59:53Chris Williamson?

  So let me, let me give you a really good example of how we use it for our business, right? So, um, we have all of our artwork that all of the managers need and the best of the albums from each week that get updated. So I'll put the artwork in. The guy that's doing, that's vetting the album from the night before will save good photos in there as well. And all of the managers have got access to it on the phone. So when they need to do a social media post, all they do is just go in and everything is as current as it needs to be. I've put the most recent artwork in. No one ever needs to ask, oh, where's the, where's the flyer for last, for this week? No one ever needs to ask, oh, I need a photo for this new Instagram post.

• 1:00:32Jonny?

  So in there.

• 1:00:33Chris Williamson?

  So the guys that do social get fed from the backend, from the guys that are doing the postal service and I get the artwork that comes in from the designer and yeah, it's, it's.

• 1:00:42Jonny?

  Any collaboration with big files, like we, we do all of our podcasts with, with Dropbox.

• 1:00:48Chris Williamson?

  It shits all over WeTransfer and stuff like that. Like, who the fuck's using, WeTransfer is just a big email.

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a big email. Like, it's.

• 1:00:55Jonny?

  It's good for a one off.

• 1:00:57Chris Williamson?

  What, like 10 gig of, you need to shift like a, a two gigabyte or 10 gigabyte file or something. Yeah, fine.

• 1:01:02Jonny?

  Dropbox is also fast, like faster than.

• 1:01:04Chris Williamson?

  Fucking right.

• 1:01:05Jonny?

  Like, if you wanna put a video somewhere that somewhere else can get it, like, it's the fact, at least.

• 1:01:09Chris Williamson?

  And it's private.

• 1:01:10Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:10Chris Williamson?

  Do you know what I mean? Without the link, no one else can get it. Unbelievable.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  So I, I use Box Sync as well, which gives you 50 gig free.

• 1:01:19Chris Williamson?

  Yemen, Yemen.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  Uh, Yemen. It's, it's the same as Dropbox, but yeah, it gives you 50 gig free.

• 1:01:23Chris Williamson?

  But is it?

• 1:01:24Jonny?

  That service on the Gaza Strip and Silicon Valley.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  You guys just don't trust.

• 1:01:32Jonny?

  So that's something that, so we were looking at installing, um, a bot, like a support function on our website at the end of the day. And this is, the skill that Yusuf has is like, I, I would just pay for the most expensive thing.

• 1:01:45Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Jonny?

  Like, I just see like.

• 1:01:47Chris Williamson?

  What does everyone else use?

• 1:01:47Jonny?

  What's everyone else using? Let's just pay for that. And Yusuf will always find, like, a, a cheaper equivalent. But, and it's, it's probably.

• 1:01:54Chris Williamson?

  No.

• 1:01:55Jonny?

  Exactly that.

• 1:01:56Chris Williamson?

  It's not. Do you remember when Ben Harrison was thinking about getting a pair of AirPods? And said, and said, I'm thinking about getting a pair of AirPods and you replied, try mine? And Johnny said, oh, have you, have you bought a pair of AirPods?

• 1:02:10Jonny?

  I was, I was really brought to tears.

• 1:02:12Chris Williamson?

  And you went, and you went.

• 1:02:13Jonny?

  I thought you've brought AirPods and you've not, and you've not told me.

• 1:02:16Chris Williamson?

  And you went, no.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  Don't worry.

• 1:02:17Chris Williamson?

  I haven't. You bought some five pound Bluetooth ones that don't work, can't connect, no battery life.

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  See, th- this is all fabrication. They work, they connect.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  I'd have to carry a stupid little dental floss container on with me as well.

• 1:02:32Chris Williamson?

  They can just like.

• 1:02:33Jonny?

  So Chris and I get value, get increased value beyond the value of the thing from it being the thing.

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  Because it looks like you have a tampon in your ear.

• 1:02:40Jonny?

  From it being the, someone commented on one of my videos saying, why does he have tab ends in his ears?

• 1:02:44Chris Williamson?

  It does look like an Oral B toothbrush head.

• 1:02:47Jonny?

  So like, I, I definitely get value from like knowing that I've got the Apple version, like, but I think you get more value from it being a deal, from it being good value.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  Possibly. I, I mean, also I just didn't have a hundred and fifty pounds to spend on like a headphone. I thought like.

• 1:03:01Chris Williamson?

  But if you did, would you in general?

• 1:03:02Speaker 01

  If I did, I would, yeah.

• 1:03:03Jonny?

  Fair enough.

• 1:03:04Speaker 01

  Like.

• 1:03:04Chris Williamson?

  I mean, that's about as big of an accolade as you can give anything that we.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  So there's a lot of things that if I had the money, I would do.

• 1:03:10Jonny?

  I think the principle that you still operate in though is like, what does it do? Can I achieve the same thing for less?

• 1:03:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:16Jonny?

  And you would get a lot more value from that. And I think that's your, your skill is finding that thing and most people don't shop around.

• 1:03:23Speaker 01

  If it's ten percent cheaper, I'll just go for the Apple one. But this was fifteen pounds.

• 1:03:26Chris Williamson?

  Convenience, convenience and uh expediting whatever the process is, I think is where me and you come in. Whereas, and that's our, our core satisfaction comes from this process being as effective and as efficient as possible.

• 1:03:41Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:41Chris Williamson?

  Whereas yours is as discounted as possible.

• 1:03:44Jonny?

  I'm definitely though, like I'm basic bitch when it comes to like, so like you'll have the best bank account. Like even stuff like Alfred is the result of you searching and searching and searching for a solution and finding something.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  I waste a lot of time searching.

• 1:03:59Jonny?

  But you get the gems, don't you?

• 1:04:00Speaker 01

  I get the gems and I, I hope that like collectively we share the gems to you guys, cause.

• 1:04:05Jonny?

  That's the point of Bifax.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:07Chris Williamson?

  Crowdsource your personal growth.

• 1:04:09Jonny?

  Can we, you've done one, you've just done Dropbox.

• 1:04:10Chris Williamson?

  I've just done one.

• 1:04:12Jonny?

  Done with Dropbox, done with Dropbox. Can I piggyback off your focus matrix?

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. Oh, cause you, see you got the top one.

• 1:04:20Chris Williamson?

  Already had the top one.

• 1:04:21Jonny?

  Already had the pro.

• 1:04:24Chris Williamson?

  So Johnny called me up, I was, I was gonna suggest this app that, and Johnny called me up yesterday and was like, oh, I didn't realise, but I actually have the premium version already. With the bundle for the other one, which syncs.

• 1:04:35Jonny?

  So the bundles just comes with the pro. So that'd be why I got it. So I really like the Pomodoro app, which is called, I always get it wrong.

• 1:04:41Chris Williamson?

  Be focused pro.

• 1:04:42Jonny?

  Be focused pro, um, which is brilliant. And this, it's the same company. So they made a sync.

• 1:04:47Chris Williamson?

  They made Pomodoros as well.

• 1:04:49Jonny?

  We talked, have we done that?

• 1:04:50Chris Williamson?

  I went through Pomodoros at length with Dr Euan Lawson.

• 1:04:53Jonny?

  Did you?

• 1:04:53Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, man. He wrote the entire, he wrote his entire contribution to the book, The Healthy Writer, on Pomodoros. Went back and looked at a hundred and twenty pom, maybe twenty, a hundred and twenty Pomodoros. And was able to track exactly what he'd done on each of them. And he does the twenty, twenty, twenty rule, which is every twenty minutes, although it's twenty five on the Pomodoro. Every twenty five minutes, he'd stand up, look at something that's twenty feet away for twenty seconds to reset your, um. Ocular nerve and your, uh, ocular muscles, because it helps you refocus on things, which reduces tension headaches and a whole bunch of others. If you haven't listened to it, it, uh, it's an absolute bellad, Dr Euan Lawson.

• 1:05:30Jonny?

  You, I recommend the Pomodoro book to you, don't I?

• 1:05:32Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:34Chris Williamson?

  The illustrated guide. It's on my, it's on my Kindle.

• 1:05:36Jonny?

  So he recommends like basically twenty five minutes of work followed by five minutes of like as close to sleep state as you can get.

• 1:05:43Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:43Jonny?

  So when I'm, if I'm doing it at home, I just do a mini meditation between.

• 1:05:46Chris Williamson?

  That's, I didn't know about that.

• 1:05:47Jonny?

  Try and like absolutely.

• 1:05:49Chris Williamson?

  Turn off.

• 1:05:50Jonny?

  Cause the theory is the harder you rest, the more you can keep going with the focused work.

• 1:05:54Chris Williamson?

  Makes so much sense, but that is, that is bloody cool. I'm gonna write, I'm gonna write down twenty, twenty, twenty and.

• 1:06:00Jonny?

  Cause also think how much meditation you, you would accrue across a day.

• 1:06:03Chris Williamson?

  True. It's only five minutes, not a lot.

• 1:06:05Jonny?

  But if you're doing ten Pomodoros.

• 1:06:08Chris Williamson?

  Suddenly. Who's doing ten Pomodoros?

• 1:06:11Jonny?

  Me.

• 1:06:11Chris Williamson?

  Like fifty bonus minutes, isn't it?

• 1:06:13Jonny?

  Not in a, not in a streak, but you'll do like four and then longer break and then four and then maybe two at the end of the day, something like that.

• 1:06:19Chris Williamson?

  That's incredible tip.

• 1:06:20Jonny?

  So there's, there's two articles that I've read recently, which are both people who used to be like workaholics. So forty, fifty hour work weeks. And then just were like, right, I'm just gonna do eight Pomodoros a day. And they got more work done through, it's just through prioritisation. Yeah. But they're really cool. But so Youssef recommended Focus Matrix to me, which is made by the same people, which is built on the Eisenhower matrix.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  So the idea of you have things that are urgent and things that are important and things that are neither. And you have a quadrant that you can set up of things that intersect. So urgent and important, prioritise, do right away. Urgent and not important, um, delegate if you can.

• 1:07:00Jonny?

  Oh, really?

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  What's it? Well, like the I, this is the ideal. You should hand over to someone, delegate it or to.

• 1:07:05Jonny?

  Oh, sorry. Urgent and not important.

• 1:07:07Speaker 01

  Urgent and not important.

• 1:07:08Jonny?

  Don't.

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  Important but not urgent, schedule it out and make sure you do that stuff. Cause that quadrant, even though it's not urgent. The important but not urgent stuff is the thing which will grow you as a person, but you never get around to doing because you're too busy fighting fires. And then not important, not urgent, not important, not important, not urgent. Just dismiss, sack it off if you can.

• 1:07:31Jonny?

  Um, and you feel like a dick for even.

• 1:07:36Chris Williamson?

  How's this helping your productivity?

• 1:07:38Jonny?

  I think it's so.

• 1:07:39Speaker 01

  So it's an app that just.

• 1:07:40Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:41Speaker 01

  Does that.

• 1:07:41Jonny?

  So I didn't realise it has a captcha feature built into it. So you just rocked my little world the other day when you told me it did. I has an inbox, but just, so just, I think. It allows you, or what I, what I found from it, I just used it for two days, but like immediately. You, you're like, I have to put this item so in one of these four, which is it?

• 1:08:01Speaker 01

  Um.

• 1:08:02Jonny?

  And you have to justify to yourselves, like, why is it important?

• 1:08:04Chris Williamson?

  Reflects, it reflects on, forces you to reflect on the task.

• 1:08:07Jonny?

  I think it gives a bit of a gap between just. And like.

• 1:08:11Chris Williamson?

  Bit of mindfulness.

• 1:08:11Jonny?

  Should I actually be doing this? Cause I think that's the most important question.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  It's exactly what both of us need as well.

• 1:08:16Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  Cause I, we were saying yesterday, like, I no longer procrastinate, but it's not.

• 1:08:20Jonny?

  Which is a massive statement. He said, the two times I've heard him say that, he just says it, but like, I no longer do any procrastination.

• 1:08:27Chris Williamson?

  That's like the time when he went and sat on a rock and eliminated envy from his life.

• 1:08:33Chris Williamson?

  How old were you? Sixteen?

• 1:08:34Speaker 01

  Uh, nineteen, yeah.

• 1:08:35Chris Williamson?

  Nineteen and you, was it jealousy or envy?

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  Uh, similar, yeah. We'll, we'll have to go into it at the time.

• 1:08:40Chris Williamson?

  Eliminated envy from your life, sat on a rock?

• 1:08:43Speaker 01

  It was, I think it was, it was ready to go. It was just the, the final two hours.

• 1:08:47Jonny?

  Yeah, right. But anyway, sorry, you were saying.

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  But you no longer procrastinate. No longer procrastinate, thinking that like, oh, that's the solution to all my problems. But I, I still, my output and everything is still lower than it should be because I can't prioritize. And so this app has been, or not, it's not the app, it's the, it's just, as Johnny said, like, taking the space to say, does this need to be done now? And actually just doing that one thing for a long time rather than switching between. Cause the, the problem that Johnny and I have, and I'm sure you definitely have, is you wake up and you're just bombarded by requests and stuff to do and you, and so anything that comes up just jumps to the top of the list and you try and do that for a bit and stave off that fire. And as a result, there's so much time and focus lost in switching tasks.

• 1:09:30Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  That.

• 1:09:31Jonny?

  Dr. Euan Lawson on the podcast said multitasking is for muppets.

• 1:09:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:35Jonny?

  That there's absolutely no evidence, no research to show that we can multitask. Cal Newport, Cal Newport, book, Deep Work.

• 1:09:42Speaker 01

  Deep Work.

• 1:09:43Jonny?

  Is the bible for this stuff. Like just sink your teeth into what is the most important thing to do, or the most urgent and important thing to do.

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  It's an incredible book.

• 1:09:52Jonny?

  Yeah, it is. I think just remembering that.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  It makes you feel like a dickhead.

• 1:09:56Jonny?

  It, so all this stuff does for me. Like you can only ever do one thing right now. And so like, if you feel overwhelmed, like great, there's a long list of stuff to do. There's something Berkan talks about in his book, Martin Berkan's book where he's like.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  Overwhelm is not a thing. Doesn't exist. Can you, can you find overwhelm anywhere? I, I can't see any overwhelm. It's all in your mind. It's a story.

• 1:10:15Jonny?

  You said best Martin Berkan impression.

• 1:10:19Speaker 01

  He's from South Shields.

• 1:10:21Jonny?

  So he's like, some people say, oh, I've got so much washing to do tomorrow. It's like, no, you don't. There is a large pile of washing. Like it's a different thing.

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:30Jonny?

  And like someone saying, I'm so busy, I'm so overwhelmed. Like no, there's a list of stuff. There's a long list of stuff. Like you don't have to identify with the list. You just do.

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  It's the anxiety that like rate of output is lower than rate of incoming. And so eventually that's gonna happen.

• 1:10:46Jonny?

  George, George McGill, who will be listening, is jizzing in his pants at the moment with the Red Queen effect, which I sent to you guys yesterday.

• 1:10:53Chris Williamson?

  So in Alice in Wonderland, she's talking to the Red Queen and they're running away from something, I think. And the Red Queen turns to her and says, you see, now you have to run as fast as you can just to stay in the same place. And that is the absolute epitome of informational overload without any effective work being done.

• 1:11:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:12Jonny?

  So if anyone's interested in like, I mean, V A's, virtual assistants and stuff is your, very much your domain. But like, if you're in, if you feel like you're doing more than you can, looking at Ari Meisel's book called Less Doing. So he was a guy who was diagnosed with Crohn's disease. You recommended the podcast today, didn't you?

• 1:11:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh, yeah.

• 1:11:33Jonny?

  He had Crohn's disease and was only able to work an hour a day.

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  He sent me his book. It was, yeah, so like.

• 1:11:38Jonny?

  Just outsourced his life, didn't he?

• 1:11:39Speaker 01

  He's, and he's just very big on, and it's good, simple stuff, but it's like, it's the kind of thing you read and you're like, oh, obviously, but why didn't I? And, and it's just write out really clear process notes for things that you don't need to be doing.

• 1:11:52Jonny?

  It's building a manual of you, he calls it.

• 1:11:54Chris Williamson?

  So we, we, we actually, I actually wrote, before I went on Love Island, I wrote a, a word document that was how to be Chris dot doc.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  Okay, there we go. You, you.

• 1:12:05Chris Williamson?

  Like, I don't need to, I didn't need, I still don't need to be there.

• 1:12:09Chris Williamson?

  I could just give, I could just give it to anyone and just be like, that's what I do. That's my week. That's what I do every single, yeah, okay. Like, the worst problem about you is that it's got, a lot of the time, it's got to be you that does the thing. Like, I can't have, I couldn't tell someone else what it is that I say on the front door of a club and then get them to turn up. So the manager would go, who are you? I'm, I'm Chris for tonight.

• 1:12:35Jonny?

  I suppose if you, you don't have to do everything else, like if that's the one thing you have to do. But yeah, it's, it's tough.

• 1:12:42Chris Williamson?

  So I'm gonna do one, because video guiding is in the optimal position. I'm gonna do one which I use on, on nights out, which is um, a specific kind of handshake when I really, really don't want anyone to come close to me. So John, if you can imagine, if you can imagine that you are a, a drunk customer on a night out, you're gonna have to stand up now.

• 1:13:05Chris Williamson?

  So if you can imagine that you were a drunk customer, you're gonna have to come round. Drunk customer on a night out, okay? And you're coming up to me and you're being, oh, I'm so drunk.

• 1:13:14Jonny?

  What are you gonna do to me?

• 1:13:15Chris Williamson?

  You go, come on, come and shake my hand. And you come in, you could go for the hug.

• 1:13:18Jonny?

  Oh, you're all right, mate.

• 1:13:19Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, how are you doing?

• 1:13:22Chris Williamson?

  So to go again. Oh, hello, man. How are you doing there? Okay, that's very good, very good. So as you see, you, you. I thought you were gonna, I thought you were gonna. No, no, so you shake. As you, as you shake hands with someone, as opposed to allowing them to fold in towards you as they go for the hook. What you do is you keep your arm extended and push their arm into their own chest. So, yeah, you just, you push back like that. And then all that they do is they end up with this kind of chicken wing thing that sticks out to the side. But you've got complete control of where they are, because they're basically, um, they're anchored from the middle of their chest into your hand. Hmm, okay. And for mitigating how close a drunkard gets to you. It's unbeatable.

• 1:14:05Chris Williamson?

  I'm also going to do, because I'm on the topic, I'm going to do the most effective way to move through a crowd of people in a nightclub. Blading. Blading, is that being. Angular, angular, yeah, you wanna be probably, you want to be more forward than you are to the side, you don't wanna be at forty five degrees, you want to be probably more at thirty. And then you want to go with your, um, non-dominant hand first. And if you have a drink, you want your drink to be held from the top of the glass. What are you doing with your arms? So first hand's going either out like that, you can either have a hand out if you really need to scythe through a crowd of people. Or you're usually okay with shoulder. Problem with that, you don't, you don't wanna be like groping someone and then you get a.

• 1:14:46Chris Williamson?

  Usually okay, like to go like that, but, you know, if you go side on with non-dominant hand first. And then drink is held from the top because that's the most effective way to not spill. If someone knocks into you, it, your hand naturally allows the weight of the, of the water. Uh, the, the liquid that's in there to slosh around, but it doesn't come out. So if you're holding it like that, it's the exact opposite. So blading, non-dominant hand, a non-dominant arm first, and you wanna be moving as quickly as possible through the, if you move with purpose. People get out your fucking way. Hmm. Like, that's, uh, as advice from someone who spends his evenings moving through crowds of people. That's the, th- those are two very optimal strategies. That's a very well-informed tip, having done that hundreds of times.

• 1:15:31Chris Williamson?

  Years of experience. I had a friend at school who always looked like, he was much taller than everyone else, like always looked older. He used to like dress pretty smart, so like he would come on nights out and he was wearing like sort of.

• 1:15:42Jonny?

  Uh like chinos in a shirt or something like that. So he always, you look at him and you think like, could be.

• 1:15:47Speaker 01

  He's an official.

• 1:15:48Jonny?

  Could be fairly, fairly important. He used to go up to groups of people and go, I'm really sorry, I'm, I'm the manager here. Uh we've, there's bits of glass in the drinks, so I'm gonna have to take everyone's drink off them. And he used to just take everyone's drinks and walk over to our table and put them down.

• 1:16:01Speaker 01

  There's your drinks.

• 1:16:02Jonny?

  And no one ever said anything to him.

• 1:16:04Speaker 01

  He'd tell people to go and like sit in different places and stuff.

• 1:16:06Jonny?

  Yeah, you just do, do anything with enough confidence and.

• 1:16:09Chris Williamson?

  So we've got a, uh, an upcoming video that we'll do, it might be a podcast, it might be a monologu video, it might be a combination of the two. Which is going to be how to beat nightclubs. Um, and this, this is going to be so good because it's all of the things that I would have fallen for back in the day as a club promoter. But basically how to get into any club for free, how to get in a VIP, the booking procedure of what you need to do and say in advance, what you should say on the door. Uh the number of times in Vegas, the number of times I managed to get onto Chris Brown's table by just being commanding and saying. Like, so one of the guys said, mate, like, but essentially, s- sorry pal, you can't come in here. So, uh, sorry mate, I'm at work. Straight through, immediately.

• 1:16:53Jonny?

  Well, you said, sorry, I'm at work.

• 1:16:54Chris Williamson?

  Sorry, mate, I'm at work. Like with a kind of a little bit of, do you not know who I am?

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's ridiculous.

• 1:17:01Jonny?

  My experience of being in a queue at Vegas was Paul, white trousers Paul.

• 1:17:06Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 1:17:06Jonny?

  Sorry, Chris, I'm Paul. Um, standing, we're like, we saw the size of the queue, we're like, I'm a bollock waiting in that. We'll go speak to that bouncer, massive, massive man. Paul was like, is there any way to skip the queue? And the guy went, it's Vegas, you can do whatever you want. He was like, how much is it? And he was like, how much do you think it is? And Paul went, is it two hundred pounds? Cause if it's two hundred pounds, that's bullshit. I'm not paying two hundred pounds.

• 1:17:32Speaker 01

  Why did he start that?

• 1:17:33Jonny?

  I don't know, he like, he was like having a conversation with himself.

• 1:17:37Chris Williamson?

  Paul, Paul, do you want to take yourself off to the corner, mate? Once you've had an argument.

• 1:17:40Jonny?

  You can speak to yourself over there, Paul.

• 1:17:41Chris Williamson?

  Let me know who wins and then if you.

• 1:17:43Jonny?

  But yeah, uh, I, so I remember being amazed at how they're like, I don't know. I'll be using the wrong terms, they're like, the organizer.

• 1:17:54Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 1:17:54Jonny?

  They're like the guy who's like promoting the event.

• 1:17:57Chris Williamson?

  Yep, the promoter.

• 1:17:58Jonny?

  The promoter is just going along the line of people. And people are just handing him ones of cash and I watched him take the one of cash out, count it, give it back to him. And then give him another one, like, all right, like, you must be just, that, that, and you've already covered your, whatever, whatever costs you have. That's your income. It was like, I need to move to Vegas.

• 1:18:18Chris Williamson?

  People's, people's desire or people's, um.

• 1:18:22Chris Williamson?

  Preparedness to spend money. Darren once sold two Q jump tickets to people who'd already bought tickets. So they paid for tickets to a New Year's Eve party. This is years ago at Riverside. And they didn't want to wait in the queue. Remembering the queues moving like quick. If you don't have to take money off someone outside of a nightclub and they're just.

• 1:18:41Jonny?

  Just let them in.

• 1:18:42Chris Williamson?

  Like you literally just get your tickets out, scan it, stamp. Um, you don't, you usually don't need to get your ID out either because your ID's been verified through the purchase. And two guys from London didn't want to wait in the queue and paid Darren fifty pounds each on top of ten pounds each ticket entry. So it's a hundred and twenty pounds for two entries.

• 1:19:00Jonny?

  I suppose like there's a, there's this feeling on the night hours now that people like, people get sucked into this idea that like, I need to spend money to show off. Which is why like, you know, that when someone buys a bottle.

• 1:19:10Chris Williamson?

  Great for people like him.

• 1:19:11Jonny?

  Yeah, fantastic. But like, the fact, it's an event, isn't it? Like you have people coming out with.

• 1:19:14Chris Williamson?

  The shows. I mean, we, we capitalize on that on a Friday at Candy Pants, right? Like, that's the whole point. You can spend sixty five pounds or a hundred pounds on a mid level or high level bottle of vodka. And have the entire room's music change and a bunch of pretty girls put on fluffy animal heads and carry boards out that have got your name on. It's the, just pure peaking. And like more.

• 1:19:38Jonny?

  People don't spend sixty quid.

• 1:19:40Chris Williamson?

  I'll tell you what.

• 1:19:41Jonny?

  Anyone in the room could do that, can't they?

• 1:19:42Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, they can. But what's really cool is when you see, oh cool. What's really interesting in a nightclub is when you see two competing groups of males that have got a high amount of disposable cash and they just start out spending.

• 1:19:56Speaker 01

  Have you witnessed that?

• 1:19:57Chris Williamson?

  Oh, yeah. And that's, that's when you see the club, because we don't take the money, right? Like, it's fun for us to watch, but I'm like, none of, like, those ten bottles of Ace of Spades are three grand. That three grand, none of that's going in my pocket. But you see, apparently I've heard some stories of Mobs where this has gone through the roof. And you've got two competing big groups of guys and one will get five grand show, seven grand show, ten grand show. And it's like a game of chicken of like, all right, okay, yeah, you think you've got that much money? No, no, like bigger, bigger, bigger. What's the largest, what's the largest bottle of vodka that you've got? What's the biggest bottle of champagne? What's the most expensive show? And you just have these two sort of dick.

• 1:20:35Speaker 01

  Interesting, because they, they don't go initially for the, the top one.

• 1:20:39Jonny?

  It's like an auction.

• 1:20:40Speaker 01

  So, yeah, which is ridiculous. Like, it's, it's like, oh, well, okay, I need to go a bit more. As opposed to just like, have a nice time.

• 1:20:49Jonny?

  Where someone spends five hundred.

• 1:20:51Chris Williamson?

  Now what?

• 1:20:52Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:52Chris Williamson?

  What if he does a hundred and five?

• 1:20:54Jonny?

  Million. That's maybe.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  Million.

• 1:20:57Jonny?

  So there'll be something that they just can't cater for. It's like, I want to spend five hundred grand, so I'm sorry.

• 1:21:02Chris Williamson?

  We don't have, we haven't got anything for you.

• 1:21:04Jonny?

  Like, apart from just scaling the volume.

• 1:21:05Speaker 01

  Since that opens once, you're like, I'm gonna stock one bottle of really good stuff, just in case.

• 1:21:09Chris Williamson?

  So here's, here's the thing with that.

• 1:21:11Speaker 01

  But then you get a bidding.

• 1:21:12Chris Williamson?

  Tuptup Palace, Tuptup Palace had a, like a five litre bottle of Ace of Spades, I think, which is, I want to say twenty grand.

• 1:21:22Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 1:21:23Chris Williamson?

  But the problem is, you've got twenty grand of your business tied up in one fucking bottle. Like, that's twenty grand of money tied up in that.

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  Just in case some big dick comes to.

• 1:21:34Jonny?

  Like, you need to sell it just to pay back.

• 1:21:36Chris Williamson?

  Oh, well, the liquidity, the liquidity this month's a little bit tight. And you're eyeing up this fucking twenty grand liability that's just sat there.

• 1:21:44Speaker 01

  Because you can't even, like, sell it in a rush either. You can't be like.

• 1:21:47Chris Williamson?

  Oh, we'll sell, we'll sell it for eighteen this week.

• 1:21:49Jonny?

  The problem is selling it at all, isn't it?

• 1:21:51Chris Williamson?

  It went, it went to the end, yeah, it went to the end. Someone did it.

• 1:21:54Jonny?

  To what, fifty cent or something?

• 1:21:56Chris Williamson?

  No, I don't think he paid for any of his drinks when he was there.

• 1:21:59Jonny?

  Can you believe the fifty cents being at Tuptup Palace?

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  And didn't pay for his drinks?

• 1:22:04Speaker 01

  That's the primary, the primary bribe, isn't it?

• 1:22:12Speaker 01

  I should be a rapper, get free drinks. I don't even drink.

• 1:22:14Jonny?

  I think if you were really consistent, serious enough about it, you could get to the point of being a rapper. It would all be facetious, obviously, but.

• 1:22:22Speaker 01

  If you could just Alfred your way to being a rapper, if you like, write, okay, this is single mind of the goal. Do a, do an impact map. So nothing ever knows. Just, just go all the way to rapper.

• 1:22:34Jonny?

  Get coaching.

• 1:22:35Speaker 01

  Outsource, get coaching, outsource your lyric, your lyric writing.

• 1:22:38Jonny?

  Find a course on OSN.

• 1:22:40Speaker 01

  Find a course to like get a haircut and all that stuff.

• 1:22:42Jonny?

  You'd still have to be putting out daily videos, wouldn't you? Have to get video around Dean. Of you rapping.

• 1:22:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, we don't have to get Dean to, to help.

• 1:22:51Jonny?

  Skirby on the mic.

• 1:22:52Speaker 01

  Skirby on the mic.

• 1:22:53Chris Williamson?

  I'm gonna put, I'm gonna throw another one in here because we're talking about nights out and this one kind of jumps in with the right amount. So, um. When you're on a night out and you're drunk, but you can't work out how drunk you are. It's very difficult. Like you think, oh, how much have I had to drink? I feel quite wrecked, but reflectively in that moment, it's actually quite hard. So the best approach for that is try and work out if you can remember things that have happened recently in the night.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  Then eventually you get really good at improving your memory while you're drunk.

• 1:23:28Chris Williamson?

  No, no. That's not what happened. Not in my experience.

• 1:23:31Jonny?

  Mechanism.

• 1:23:32Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, that's not, that's not what happens in my experience. If you're trying to remember what hap- what's recently happened when you're drunk and you can't remember it. What that means is you're probably not going to be, be able to remember what's happening right now. And if you know that that level of memory loss equates to too much alcohol has been consumed.

• 1:23:46Speaker 01

  And not having a good time. If you can't remember it, then.

• 1:23:48Jonny?

  What's the point?

• 1:23:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:23:50Jonny?

  Go pro.

• 1:23:51Chris Williamson?

  There you go.

• 1:23:51Speaker 01

  So it's a bit of a philosophical point that if you can't remember having a good time, was it still a good time?

• 1:23:55Jonny?

  So Darren Brown talks about that. Remembered self and experienced self.

• 1:23:59Speaker 01

  I'll have to read the book.

• 1:24:00Jonny?

  Um, I always go to the toilet.

• 1:24:02Chris Williamson?

  You wanna go to the toilet?

• 1:24:03Jonny?

  I always go to the toilet when I'm thinking like how much I've had to drink. Cause if you go to the toilet.

• 1:24:08Speaker 01

  It's quiet, there's.

• 1:24:09Jonny?

  And you try and have a wee.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  Standing in a pool of wee.

• 1:24:12Jonny?

  There's a, there's a moment of like, okay, like.

• 1:24:15Chris Williamson?

  That's, that's a good point because that's like a, that's like base, base camp.

• 1:24:20Jonny?

  Yeah, like I've wee before, wee plenty of times before.

• 1:24:22Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:22Jonny?

  So I know how they should feel. I'm by myself. There's no loud music. Like there's someone trying to off in the aftershave and stuff like that.

• 1:24:28Chris Williamson?

  No much, not too much stimulus.

• 1:24:30Jonny?

  But like it's a fairly quiet time. I'm like, let's just do it.

• 1:24:32Chris Williamson?

  You're in a Petri dish, aren't you?

• 1:24:33Jonny?

  Just to.

• 1:24:34Chris Williamson?

  Let's see what the, let's see what the culture has.

• 1:24:36Jonny?

  Hmm.

• 1:24:36Speaker 01

  I hate nightclub toilets. The, the, you're standing in like an inch layer of wheat. There's the guy pressuring you to buy stuff and he's like, ah, you're like, look. I, I'm not.

• 1:24:46Chris Williamson?

  Look mate, if I don't wanna wash my hands, that's my, that's my decision.

• 1:24:51Speaker 01

  Well, like you wash your hands and they, they hand you a towel and you're like, no, no, I'll get my own towel. Cause.

• 1:24:56Jonny?

  We've still never been on a proper night out.

• 1:24:59Speaker 01

  Proper like.

• 1:25:00Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think we.

• 1:25:01Chris Williamson?

  You said two years ago, we were gonna do it.

• 1:25:03Jonny?

  I did.

• 1:25:04Speaker 01

  We, we, we've done a few, but they, we haven't gone like.

• 1:25:06Jonny?

  There was a time we went to that, it's the only time I've ever been to that club.

• 1:25:09Chris Williamson?

  Jalou.

• 1:25:10Jonny?

  Jalou and you drank the really strong.

• 1:25:13Chris Williamson?

  Ray Nephew's eighty percent overproof rum.

• 1:25:15Jonny?

  Honey. And then you had whiskey and honey with.

• 1:25:17Speaker 01

  So Chris was like, do you wanna drink? He said, I'll, I'll, I'll just have water. And he was like, right, pick a drink or I'm picking you one. And I was like, no, no, really. And then he turned around with a double shot of this eighty percent rum. And then a double Jack Daniels and Coke afterwards. And you, you drink the rum and it just hits you and you're like, oh no, I've gotta cycle back now.

• 1:25:35Chris Williamson?

  Forgot that you were cycling. I mean, you text me when you got in. I was like, you're gonna have to text me to let me know.

• 1:25:40Speaker 01

  Do not die.

• 1:25:41Jonny?

  It was, it was, you sipped it. That's what I remember really clearly about that.

• 1:25:44Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. Cause it was like.

• 1:25:45Jonny?

  Like I've seen, I've seen people drink that and be immediately sick. And you just went.

• 1:25:50Chris Williamson?

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 1:25:51Jonny?

  Yeah, it's quite strong. Yeah. Yeah, it is quite strong.

• 1:25:55Speaker 01

  Get rid of it. We've just ruined our palates with years of horrible supplements and like hydrolyzed casein. So my life hack is. So here are the keyboard shortcuts for YouTube. If you're watching this on YouTube.

• 1:26:08Chris Williamson?

  Nice.

• 1:26:09Speaker 01

  Honestly, so return to the start, zero, skip through ten, twenty, thirty percent, one, two, three, four, five, et cetera. So the number keys. Double speed or half speed is shift and the greater than or less than symbol. And you can keep tapping them to go all the way up to two times speed or all the way down to naught point two five speed. K is pause. J is back.

• 1:26:31Chris Williamson?

  Space is also pause.

• 1:26:32Speaker 01

  Space is also pause. Space sometimes jumps down.

• 1:26:34Chris Williamson?

  Jumps you down.

• 1:26:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um K is more reliable at least. Um J moves back ten seconds, L moves forward ten seconds. And with those, you're just a keyboard wizard. The reason I'm so obsessed with keyboard shortcuts is that they minimize being a a a Packard bell and having to like move the mouse.

• 1:26:55Jonny?

  Do it, I basically.

• 1:26:57Speaker 01

  Well, so it's why we were talking about like the trackpad speed and just moving it up to the max and just.

• 1:27:01Chris Williamson?

  If you've not done that, you may have missed life hacks one on one, like immediately now, go to the top corner of your MacBook because you're using a MacBook because you are a sane human. And press on the Apple system preferences, trackpad and move your trackpad speed up at least.

• 1:27:17Speaker 01

  All the way to the max.

• 1:27:18Chris Williamson?

  Uh no, you will overshoot. You it's diminishing return, uh not sorry, diminishing returns. It's a very, very short period of not being able to click on anything.

• 1:27:26Speaker 01

  So yeah, so experience the trial by fire, go to the max, deal with a day of discomfort and then suddenly realize that everyone.

• 1:27:33Chris Williamson?

  When you acclimate, when you acclimatize, when you go back to using someone else's laptop, it feels pedestrian.

• 1:27:38Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:27:39Chris Williamson?

  You're like, it's it's ridiculous. Yeah, you're having to like.

• 1:27:41Jonny?

  So it shouldn't take more than one to get to.

• 1:27:44Chris Williamson?

  Corner to corner, mate, half the trackpad.

• 1:27:46Jonny?

  I think if it's if it's someone's going, then your trackpad's wrong.

• 1:27:49Chris Williamson?

  What is going on?

• 1:27:51Jonny?

  But so I I recently, in fact, two days ago, went through and set loads of Alfred snippets and and set up a lot of Alfred.

• 1:27:57Speaker 01

  Hmm, very exciting.

• 1:27:58Jonny?

  I had I had a moment where I was like, you know what?

• 1:28:00Chris Williamson?

  Fuck it, do it. Yeah.

• 1:28:01Jonny?

  He's he's right. I can't remember what I was doing, but I was typing something. I was like, that that's the fourth time I've written that today.

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  Or like trying to find a link and you're like, oh.

• 1:28:08Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's.

• 1:28:10Jonny?

  So yeah, you know what it was? It was trying to find a login for a client's piece of software.

• 1:28:14Chris Williamson?

  Hmm.

• 1:28:15Jonny?

  And I I know that I saw I I saved it to Evernote and then I was like, why have I saved it to Evernote? So that I can go back to Evernote again.

• 1:28:22Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:22Jonny?

  To copy it again, to so I was like.

• 1:28:24Chris Williamson?

  I mean, once you've even even once you've copied it once, if it's a short period of time, you don't need to make it.

• 1:28:28Jonny?

  It's in.

• 1:28:29Chris Williamson?

  Because it's in the clipboard manager.

• 1:28:30Jonny?

  Board, yeah.

• 1:28:30Speaker 01

  If it's in the last two hundred things that you've copied, then.

• 1:28:33Jonny?

  Which it it almost certainly is.

• 1:28:34Chris Williamson?

  I want infinite, I want infinity copy.

• 1:28:36Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 1:28:38Chris Williamson?

  I want infinity copy.

• 1:28:39Speaker 01

  I think that's gonna.

• 1:28:40Chris Williamson?

  It'll back up a little, but it's fine. Cloud cloud base the infinity, pull it, pull the.

• 1:28:45Speaker 01

  Do you need infinity or or could you just go a thousand or like two thousand?

• 1:28:49Jonny?

  Okay, well, infinity copy would just be snippets, wouldn't it?

• 1:28:53Chris Williamson?

  No.

• 1:28:53Jonny?

  Almost. Like if you know what you're searching for, which you'd have to for infinity copy.

• 1:28:57Chris Williamson?

  Good point.

• 1:28:58Speaker 01

  You do mean in infinite.

• 1:29:01Chris Williamson?

  Clipboard.

• 1:29:02Speaker 01

  Threadboard entries. There's not a thing called infinity copy. Okay.

• 1:29:06Chris Williamson?

  Um. Oh my god, I need that. Uh, right, I'm gonna do another one because.

• 1:29:11Jonny?

  Oh, it's yours.

• 1:29:12Chris Williamson?

  Thank you. Sorry.

• 1:29:13Jonny?

  Um, I don't think we've done much on sleeping.

• 1:29:17Chris Williamson?

  Can we do one on your top knot, please? Video guiding, could you just move in on?

• 1:29:22Jonny?

  No.

• 1:29:23Chris Williamson?

  On Johnny's hair, please, if that's okay.

• 1:29:25Jonny?

  I don't like it.

• 1:29:26Chris Williamson?

  A little bit closer.

• 1:29:27Jonny?

  I don't mind.

• 1:29:28Chris Williamson?

  Thank you. Yeah. It looks great. Look at the camera, please, Johnny, for me. There you go. I think you look fantastic. The problem is you haven't got rid of the sides.

• 1:29:38Jonny?

  That's not my fault.

• 1:29:39Chris Williamson?

  It's a, it's a, it's a key commitment.

• 1:29:41Jonny?

  It's all, I'm not, I have no involvement in it at all. The hair, my hairdresser has, so this was something. Something we were learning today about outsourcing.

• 1:29:50Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 1:29:51Jonny?

  That when you're outsourcing to someone who's an expert, don't interfere with their process.

• 1:29:55Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:55Jonny?

  Like telling Dee to zoom in, like Dee knows what he's doing.

• 1:29:58Chris Williamson?

  Fuck off. Yeah, exactly. You want, you do know what it is.

• 1:30:00Jonny?

  So what you say is you, the desired effect, the desired outcome, and then get out of the way.

• 1:30:05Chris Williamson?

  Fuck the fuck off.

• 1:30:06Jonny?

  So I said, I want a top knot. She was like, don't worry.

• 1:30:09Chris Williamson?

  Leave it, leave it.

• 1:30:10Jonny?

  She gave me a grace period, which I'm now way out of.

• 1:30:13Chris Williamson?

  Oh, there was, there was a fourteen day, there was a fourteen day cooling off period in which, under consumer law, you could have stopped the process.

• 1:30:19Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:19Chris Williamson?

  That's now, yeah, very good.

• 1:30:21Jonny?

  Sorted me out.

• 1:30:22Chris Williamson?

  Um, interesting that you say we haven't done much stuff on sleep because the podcast, which is coming out in two days' time, which will probably be about three weeks ago when this gets broadcast, is with Dr Greg Potter from the University of Leeds, PhD in sleep and chrononutrition. He is one of the UK's leading sleep researchers and we did two hours on optimizing sleep. It's like the, do you know, it's like the supplementary information to Matthew Walker's book, Why We Sleep.

• 1:30:48Jonny?

  Okay. So this, my, my tip is not necessarily, because I think where there's lots of people now with tips on like, set your fixed wake up time, make sure your room's dark, all that sort of shit. And like.

• 1:31:01Chris Williamson?

  Longing for it.

• 1:31:01Jonny?

  In an ideal world, yeah, like your, your sleep's just this.

• 1:31:05Chris Williamson?

  Seamless integration.

• 1:31:06Jonny?

  Algorithmic existence, but most people, it's not. It's a bit of a mess.

• 1:31:09Chris Williamson?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:31:10Jonny?

  But there are so many people that I know who complain of like, you wake up and you're like, have a moment. You get out of bed like a sore back, sore neck, I've slapped on my shoulder funny, like, oh, my arm's numb.

• 1:31:22Speaker 01

  I'm gonna have to piggyback off yours in a second.

• 1:31:24Chris Williamson?

  I'm gonna have to piggyback off yours. You've opened up a complete fucking Pandora's box of optimisation.

• 1:31:31Jonny?

  So, and then those people get out of bed and then they go and try and squat or lift weights and you're like.

• 1:31:35Chris Williamson?

  Is this Dab?

• 1:31:36Jonny?

  What are you doing?

• 1:31:37Chris Williamson?

  Do this.

• 1:31:37Jonny?

  Well, Dab's pretty good, actually.

• 1:31:39Chris Williamson?

  Is he?

• 1:31:39Jonny?

  Yeah, it was actually Gemma who I was speaking to and she was like, she showed me the, showed me the way that she lay in bed. And she was sleeping. I was like, do you not wake up and feel knackered?

• 1:31:49Speaker 01

  I was like on the front like that.

• 1:31:50Jonny?

  It's like, it's like, it's like free fall skydiver.

• 1:31:52Chris Williamson?

  Okay.

• 1:31:53Jonny?

  So there were three videos that, um, skydiver's always free falling. Isn't he? She, it.

• 1:32:01Speaker 01

  Base jumper.

• 1:32:02Jonny?

  They, done. Um, three videos by Kelly Sturet.

• 1:32:07Chris Williamson?

  And what?

• 1:32:07Jonny?

  That, yeah, that talk about, um, rolling up a towel and sliding it in the pillowcase. So you have pillow, towel roll, towel roll sits here, supports your neck. And then the pillow supports your head. So that basically, if you imagine that, you're like that in bed. So. Complete.

• 1:32:26Chris Williamson?

  Alignment.

• 1:32:27Jonny?

  Midline, shoulder is back, not down. Like most people sleep and you wake up and you're like, oh, my neck isn't, my neck doesn't hurt anymore.

• 1:32:36Speaker 01

  So I've started doing that since you recommended it. Without the towel though, I didn't, I didn't know about the towel.

• 1:32:40Jonny?

  Towel's key.

• 1:32:40Chris Williamson?

  Is it?

• 1:32:41Speaker 01

  Cause I've got a, I've got an Ikea pillow that has a, like a hair ridge.

• 1:32:44Chris Williamson?

  Okay, that's interesting.

• 1:32:46Speaker 01

  But it's lovely.

• 1:32:46Chris Williamson?

  So, but I think what's key, I think what's key to do with sleeping posture, we didn't cover sleeping posture in the, uh, the much in the podcast with, uh, Greg. What you do instead of, if you can imagine that I'm laid on the bed, I think that I'm right, tell me if I'm wrong here. You, instead of having the pillow like this, you sweep the pillow down. So it's like that. And then you turn over.

• 1:33:07Jonny?

  So ideally, ideally you want two pillows like that. Watch, just watch the video.

• 1:33:11Chris Williamson?

  So what.

• 1:33:12Jonny?

  Kelly, Kelly talked about it.

• 1:33:14Chris Williamson?

  Are you ready for me to level this up? Video guiding before you leave, we will get footage of this. In my bed now, I have a pregnancy pillow. Have you seen these?

• 1:33:23Speaker 01

  The ones that you hook.

• 1:33:24Chris Williamson?

  Have you seen, it's a big U, it's a huge U shape.

• 1:33:27Jonny?

  Okay, oh yeah, I have seen them.

• 1:33:29Chris Williamson?

  So all, all that that is, is something for you to hook in between your legs on either side, something for you to hook under your arm on either side. And then you just take the arm out and roll and go under and it's always between your legs.

• 1:33:42Jonny?

  So.

• 1:33:43Chris Williamson?

  I am the most single man.

• 1:33:48Chris Williamson?

  In the world, I have a king sized bed and there's no spare room in it.

• 1:33:53Jonny?

  So you know what, like, okay, we're, we really have opened up the full box here.

• 1:33:57Chris Williamson?

  Fucking hell.

• 1:33:58Jonny?

  So Becca, my girlfriend, was having a conversation with some people at her work about what size beds people sleep in.

• 1:34:04Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 1:34:04Jonny?

  Because someone had said to her that a double bed is sufficient for a couple, which is absolute horseshit, like.

• 1:34:11Speaker 01

  Totally agree. I'm, I'm not a large man and I still.

• 1:34:15Jonny?

  Well, cause you don't know one like gets in bed and does that and requires no extra room. Like you, you move around and you need enough room to have like your own space in the bed.

• 1:34:23Speaker 01

  When, when was the last sleep on a single bed?

• 1:34:26Jonny?

  Oh, they're tiny.

• 1:34:29Chris Williamson?

  What's the, um, what's the statistic about what two single beds put together are?

• 1:34:33Jonny?

  It's a super king, I believe.

• 1:34:36Chris Williamson?

  So a super, so my bed, which I paid six hundred pounds for the mattress, just the mattress for from Eve, which is a king.

• 1:34:44Jonny?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:34:45Chris Williamson?

  Is still not as big as a single bed.

• 1:34:49Jonny?

  It might, maybe a king is two singles, I don't know.

• 1:34:50Chris Williamson?

  Right, okay, but i- in that region, so what you're saying is that a single bed gives one person more room than a king bed gives two. Now, obviously you can cut into each other's space and overlap more effectively.

• 1:35:03Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:03Chris Williamson?

  But the effective point that you're saying is if you're anything under, what is, what's one down from a king like a queen?

• 1:35:10Jonny?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:35:11Chris Williamson?

  It's basically like the gulag.

• 1:35:12Jonny?

  So, yeah, and then above a super king, which, which is so annoying. I didn't, so I, I have a super king.

• 1:35:17Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 1:35:18Jonny?

  Eve mattress do a seven foot by seven foot bed. That's a, that's a cloud.

• 1:35:21Speaker 01

  Big square.

• 1:35:22Jonny?

  That's sleeping in a cloud, isn't it? That means that you could do a forward roll and you'd still be in the bed.

• 1:35:26Chris Williamson?

  Not fall off the bed.

• 1:35:27Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:27Chris Williamson?

  But one of the problems there is just.

• 1:35:30Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:35:30Chris Williamson?

  The head thing.

• 1:35:31Speaker 01

  The head thing and then um so that there's there's basically three videos that Kelly talks about sleeping. So one is assessing the firmness of your mattress. So one of the tests is lie on your back and what most people do is they default into extension. And so they bend one leg.

• 1:35:47Chris Williamson?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:35:47Speaker 01

  So if you lie on your mattress and immediately bend one leg, you'll probably wake up with a sore back in the morning.

• 1:35:53Chris Williamson?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:35:53Speaker 01

  Is a pretty good test. So you want you you want to be able to almost sit in a in a dish. This is all according to him.

• 1:35:58Chris Williamson?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:59Speaker 01

  The other one is um either having, so if you can't get out of that position, you can't buy a new mattress. Pillow under your hamstrings or like you were saying, pull it with your line, you start to pull it between your legs. And then the other one is.

• 1:36:11Chris Williamson?

  That one. Should we, because we've got on to being an extension in bed, should we discuss what we were talking about just before the podcast began, Sko?

• 1:36:20Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:36:21Chris Williamson?

  We're referring to, I'll let you, I'll let you take it away.

• 1:36:23Speaker 01

  Okay, well, ju- just before we do, so this was the um the piggyback on Johnny's uh.

• 1:36:28Chris Williamson?

  Okay.

• 1:36:29Speaker 01

  Johnny's sleeping one. So as unpopular as it's been with my girlfriend. I've started sleeping on the floor recently.

• 1:36:38Chris Williamson?

  Has she slept on the floor yet?

• 1:36:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, once.

• 1:36:40Chris Williamson?

  Oh, so you're broken her.

• 1:36:41Speaker 01

  It was nearly a deal breaker.

• 1:36:42Chris Williamson?

  Broken her.

• 1:36:43Speaker 01

  Oh, it really.

• 1:36:43Chris Williamson?

  She threatened to break up with you.

• 1:36:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, she was genuinely really upset about it.

• 1:36:47Chris Williamson?

  I know you want to do this, but for God's sake. You're gonna lose your relationship.

• 1:36:50Speaker 01

  Don't jeopardize your relationship. Yeah, I didn't realise it was that much of an issue, but it really was. Yeah, so I've I've got a thin mattress topper, which was basically the reason behind that is to protect the joints from the direct impact with with the floor. But the idea is that when you sleep on a very soft mattress, you sink in and it's you you there's no impetus to relax. And so it's very easy to maintain that tension when you're sleeping.

• 1:37:16Chris Williamson?

  Which it sounds quite converse, right, that something soft doesn't help help you in relaxing.

• 1:37:20Speaker 01

  It it does sound converse and then so I suppose the the the example is you need to think of like when you. If someone gives you a massage or you get a dentist, like a dentist has to drill your tooth with something harder than your tooth or so what what you do.

• 1:37:33Jonny?

  Foam rolling, I suppose.

• 1:37:34Speaker 01

  Foam rolling, yeah, using something harder than than the thing you're trying to loosen. And so when you're lying on the floor, uh you you have to. Release that tension so that your body can shape to the floor.

• 1:37:46Jonny?

  Hmm.

• 1:37:47Speaker 01

  And so the idea is you do that and it's more in line with. How tribal um populations sleep and they have a much lower incidence of musculoskeletal injury and and postural problems. Now, yeah, of course, like we do so many other bad movement habits that also probably contribute to that. But we sleep for, and this uh this was Johnny's thing to me, it was like you need to spend, like you spend a third of your life sleeping. So it makes sense to spend the most money on your bed, followed by. The things we constantly have on you and workstation, yeah, so. I've been doing it for a month so far, five, six weeks. I wake up before my alarm every day now. I get out of bed not feeling stiff.

• 1:38:30Speaker 01

  And the only downside is like you've got a long way to get up, like you, as soon as you wake up, you're like. You can't just.

• 1:38:37Jonny?

  You've got to do a burpee.

• 1:38:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, you've got to do a burpee, you can't just.

• 1:38:40Jonny?

  Do you get hands and knees and then stand up from there?

• 1:38:43Speaker 01

  I do double backflip and then.

• 1:38:45Jonny?

  Right.

• 1:38:46Speaker 01

  But it's.

• 1:38:47Jonny?

  And you don't step, you lose a point, don't you?

• 1:38:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, so sometimes I do a single flip if it's like a rough day or whatever, but like, um, yeah, I don't know how how I physically get up, but.

• 1:38:55Jonny?

  I think I would roll over the hands and knees and stand up.

• 1:38:58Chris Williamson?

  I think that's also the way that I would do it. I'd want to stand up on the mattress topper. I wouldn't want to go on a bare floor.

• 1:39:03Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:04Chris Williamson?

  That's savage. I'm not, I'm not a fucking.

• 1:39:05Jonny?

  Yeah, we're not barbarians, yeah.

• 1:39:07Speaker 01

  But.

• 1:39:08Jonny?

  So you're liking it then?

• 1:39:09Speaker 01

  Liking it so far. I'm gonna do a video on it and like cover the full.

• 1:39:12Jonny?

  And you've also gained ten kilos of muscle, lost five kilos of fat.

• 1:39:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:17Chris Williamson?

  Um, can we talk about the extension in bed? We'll finish on this.

• 1:39:21Speaker 01

  What was the um?

• 1:39:23Chris Williamson?

  It's a girl.

• 1:39:24Speaker 01

  Well, what what what was the the context for it?

• 1:39:27Chris Williamson?

  It was just, it's a, it's bad form.

• 1:39:30Speaker 01

  I was cracking Johnny's back.

• 1:39:31Chris Williamson?

  Yep.

• 1:39:32Speaker 01

  Johnny said I look like someone who's um.

• 1:39:35Chris Williamson?

  You look like a female who's got poor mobility and is. Enjoying being penetrated from behind. In a, or a dog having a poo. Or a dog having a poo.

• 1:39:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:46Chris Williamson?

  Those are the two things. And I mean, when, when, as a woman in a particular sexual position, you can be equated to a dog having a poo. There's, there should be some alarm bells going.

• 1:39:57Speaker 01

  But so, so that's, it's inefficient because you're, you're.

• 1:40:02Chris Williamson?

  Can you, can you, can you example for the people that are watching for me, please?

• 1:40:06Speaker 01

  I, not on YouTube. I can't, I, I can't.

• 1:40:09Chris Williamson?

  Yes, you can.

• 1:40:10Speaker 01

  There's a, there's a certain, uh.

• 1:40:12Chris Williamson?

  There's a, a lower limit.

• 1:40:14Speaker 01

  I think we're, we're hitting the lower limit, but going into, going into flexion, so lumbar flexion and tucking the, the.

• 1:40:20Chris Williamson?

  Under, under, so arched back in, on all fours, females on all fours. How, how should it look and say it?

• 1:40:27Speaker 01

  Arch the back.

• 1:40:28Chris Williamson?

  Or tuck the tail.

• 1:40:29Speaker 01

  Tuck the tail underneath. Um, it's, it's a, it's a great yoga position, but you're moving your vagina away from whoever's trying to get in. So, um, like, animals will all go into extension. It's like, it's the, the natural thing, but I think we've overridden that as humans. And so.

• 1:40:50Chris Williamson?

  Well, I mean.

• 1:40:50Speaker 01

  And the solution, obviously it is poor mobility. And, and so one, one of the solutions people do is they put a pillow underneath. If the, if, if a woman is lying on her back, but.

• 1:41:01Chris Williamson?

  It is the, I mean, it's, you know, from a guy's perspective as well, women presumably won't know this. You don't see sex from a guy's perspective. But to see a girl inflection on all fours is one of the least attractive sights known to man. We just think like, needs reward. You do? You need to spend a little bit more time in puppy dog? Because if you. Which is, don't be all. No, hands down. Chin, chin up and through. So, extension, extension, girls. When you're on all fours.

• 1:41:31Speaker 01

  The, the reason I didn't do it is because I know that Dean's gonna make it the thumbnail of the video.

• 1:41:36Speaker 01

  Me, me just on the couch in between, in, in full 4K, slow mo, 3D, Oculus. Yeah. I was like.

• 1:41:45Chris Williamson?

  You know, when you talk about leaving the world a better place.

• 1:41:47Speaker 01

  That would just be.

• 1:41:48Chris Williamson?

  That would be a real better place.

• 1:41:50Jonny?

  That would be leaving this podcast better than when you found it.

• 1:41:52Speaker 01

  And the, the, the way Johnny uses Alfred so efficiently in this one single domain, which is, he's got a bank of pictures of me in ridiculous situations that will just get fired out.

• 1:42:04Chris Williamson?

  Fine. Well, that could have been added to the library. So you protected yourself there. Thank you very much for watching.

• 1:42:10Jonny?

  I'm happy to sell them 2021.

• 1:42:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, some good ones.

• 1:42:13Chris Williamson?

  We could do an OnlyFans. Have you heard of OnlyFans? So OnlyFans is, it's like legal softcore porn for girls that need money for Instagram.

• 1:42:24Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:42:25Chris Williamson?

  So you know the girls that like upload photos that are like really, really suggestive? You can get the uncensored ones on OnlyFans.

• 1:42:31Speaker 01

  What's it? And you, you get, you get like a monthly subscription?

• 1:42:33Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And you can pay to chat with them as well and stuff like that.

• 1:42:37Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:42:38Chris Williamson?

  So yeah.

• 1:42:39Jonny?

  Step away from Camgirl, right?

• 1:42:40Chris Williamson?

  Yeah, one step down from fucking yourself on camera, essentially.

• 1:42:43Speaker 01

  But one bonus tip just before we go.

• 1:42:45Chris Williamson?

  Throw it in.

• 1:42:46Speaker 01

  So I bought a Glenda recently. They're making a lot of smoothies. Palmer violets in any smoothie is incredible.

• 1:42:54Jonny?

  When you say Palmer violets, describe exactly what they look like to you.

• 1:42:58Speaker 01

  They, they look like big purple tablets, like.

• 1:43:01Jonny?

  Right. So it's exactly what I thought it was.

• 1:43:03Chris Williamson?

  It tasted like flour.

• 1:43:04Jonny?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, so they, they look like erythrosite, like just like a big purple red blood cell, like the, the, the donut thing and.

• 1:43:12Jonny?

  Medicine is slowly seeping into your life and you don't even realise.

• 1:43:15Chris Williamson?

  Unable to operate without it happening, aren't you?

• 1:43:18Speaker 01

  So Palmer violets, fresh mint and pineapple. Best drink I've ever had.

• 1:43:23Jonny?

  So that ice cream.

• 1:43:25Speaker 01

  Oh, just hundred, hundred, hundred.

• 1:43:29Jonny?

  The ice cream you gave us the other evening, like I would never have picked that, like never.

• 1:43:34Speaker 01

  They discontinued it and I was so upset. It's beautiful.

• 1:43:37Chris Williamson?

  Since we bought it.

• 1:43:37Jonny?

  Lemon, lemon, rum and mint.

• 1:43:39Speaker 01

  Lime, rum and mint. Yeah.

• 1:43:41Chris Williamson?

  Lime, yeah.

• 1:43:41Speaker 01

  Tascos finest.

• 1:43:42Chris Williamson?

  Brilliant. I was blown away.

• 1:43:43Speaker 01

  Really, really nice.

• 1:43:44Jonny?

  I had little bits of like honey, raisin, lime or something.

• 1:43:48Speaker 01

  It's the last time any of us were ever gonna have it, unfortunately.

• 1:43:50Chris Williamson?

  But what a way for, what a way for it to go.

• 1:43:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, true.

• 1:43:52Chris Williamson?

  I mean.

• 1:43:53Jonny?

  Well, it's now gonna exist and need to that forever.

• 1:43:55Speaker 01

  Yes, Tesco, if you're watching.

• 1:43:57Chris Williamson?

  Sort it out. Bring it back for, for God's sake. Uh, right. Thank you very much for listening. I have got more life hacks on my screen than ones I've gone through today. So one or six will probably try and get done soon. Life fails, needs to be done.

• 1:44:10Speaker 01

  I think we've got at least another five to 10 life hacks episodes before we all are.

• 1:44:14Chris Williamson?

  Well, I don't think we're ever going to be all out. They always, they always build, don't they?

• 1:44:18Speaker 01

  They keep coming up, yeah.

• 1:44:19Chris Williamson?

  The optimisation. Mine were books that I've read in the last month, so. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I think if you have any life hacks that you think that we should feature, fire them in the comments below. If you're on YouTube, head to YouTube if you're not, and please subscribe.

• 1:44:33Speaker 01

  If you have a good Philip Hugh setup and you think we're a bunch of idiots.

• 1:44:37Chris Williamson?

  If you want to argue with us about the fact that smart homes aren't for assholes.

• 1:44:42Chris Williamson?

  We'll argue then, Ethan. Like, it's a big discussion to have. Yeah. So. Fine, I'll Skype you. I'll Skype you.

• 1:44:48Speaker 01

  I'll Skype you 1v1.

• 1:44:50Chris Williamson?

  1v1. I swear to God, mate, I will wreck you. Hmm. Um, what are we gonna do next? What's the next one that we've got coming up? We haven't actually scheduled what the next topic's going to be.

• 1:44:58Speaker 01

  The second part of relationships.

• 1:45:00Chris Williamson?

  Relationships one or two we'll do moving forward. Uh, bloody hell, honesty, weight training.

• 1:45:05Speaker 01

  Life fails. We've done honesty.

• 1:45:06Chris Williamson?

  How to get strong. No, how to get strong, yeah, you wanna do. Um, have you seen the CrossFit Games have now removed regionals? I saw something about that today. Chalk talk, yeah. Why? Why? Not really too sure. They're gonna ha- basically have a kind of like two opens, it looks like, to kind of spread the net a little wider and I don't really understand, if I'm honest, but there's a lot of. What, so you go open then, like, elite open? Second open, yeah, so it's online qualifier again, basically. So it allows more people to compete at that mid level. Dropping their overhead, aren't they? Bastard. Not that overhead. No. Anyway. That's it, it sits on your P and L. Thanks very much. Make sure that you press subscribe. Please give me a five star rating if you're on iTunes or Spotify. Check out Proppin Fitness Dean, will make appear here and here and here and here and here. Okay, bye then. Thank you. Okay, bye then.