Israel Bombs Syria & Was Epstein a Mossad Agent? | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

In this episode, Dee and Jack discuss various geopolitical issues, focusing on Israel's recent military actions in Syria and the implications for US foreign policy. They explore the complexities of the Middle East, the potential for global conflict, and the ongoing situation in Ukraine. The conversation also touches on the political landscape in the US, including the Epstein case and its impact on current events. Follow our Newsletter! https://teamhousepodcast.kit.com/ https://theteamhousepodcast.com/ Find Jack here: https://thehighside.substack.com/ Support the show on Patreon:⬇️ https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouse New merch, patches, and stickers! ⬇️ https://theteamhouse-shop.fourthwall.com Find Mick Mulroy here: Fogbow ⬇️ https://fogbow.com/ Lobo Institute ⬇️ https://www.loboinstitute.org/ Twitter ⬇️ https://x.com/mickmulroy?s=21&t=-Ze3F_Ix2vlJ18KFvORTCA LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-patrick-mulroy-31198b52/ Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/mickmulroy.bsky.social Mick’s publications ⬇️ https://www.loboinstitute.org/publications/publications-of-michael-mick-patrick-mulroy/ Find Andy Milburn here: Twitter ⬇️ https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fandymilburn8 LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmilburn2023 Substack ⬇️ https://amilburn.substack.com/ Andy’s book ⬇️ https://www.amazon.com/When-Tempest-Gathers-Mogadishu-Operations Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/andy-milburn.bsky.social Find Jason Lyons here: LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-lyons-666873316?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/bgsilverback73.bsky.social 00:00 Start and Overview of Current Events 02:09 Israel Bombs Syria and Political Implications 09:04 US Foreign Policy and Its Challenges 17:41 Global Conflict and the New World Order 21:37 Geopolitical Dynamics and Arms Deals 23:57 Stalemate in Ukraine: Future Speculations 26:11 The Epstein Files: Conspiracy Theories and Speculations 30:13 Political Personalities and Public Perception 34:49 Investigating the Unknown: CIA and Afghanistan 37:47 Upcoming Projects and Future Endeavors Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

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• 1:30Jack Murphy?

  We are definitely at this interesting crossroads. I mean, I don't like to sound alarmist, but I mean, it is clear that the old international order has collapsed at this point. It no longer exists. And something new is going to come out of the ashes, a recalibration of world order. But what does that look like? Does it look like a multipolar world, where America's role is different? And of course, that recalibration typically happens after a real global conflict. And so that's the question I have, is are we sleepwalking into the next real global war? Like real slug match?

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• 4:25Speaker 05

  I should have been a broadcaster, I think. Anyway, a lot cooking as usual. Just before we got on about an hour, an hour and a half before we got on, Israel started bombing Syria and Damascus. They hit the Ministry of Defense a few times. It's hit the Presidential Palace too.

• 4:46Speaker 05

  Oh, I'm gonna editorialize just, you know, Israel undermining US Middle East policy once again. It feels like.

• 4:56Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I mean, Israel unfortunately is kind of on the path of violating all the norms of international order, the way that Russia has, trying to fight this war out in all directions. So this is just happening now. I just saw some of the footage, actually a traffic circle in the center of Damascus that I've been through myself, getting blown up. It's pretty wild. The reason that Israel is given for this is that they're trying to protect the Druze community, which is a religious minority in Syria.

• 5:32Jack Murphy?

  I think that's a hard claim to make when you've proven that as a country, you really don't give a shit about minority groups at all. So I think there's a more political reason for attacking Syria, especially now that the Assad regime is out and they're doing this. The issue at hand too is also, I mean, the Golan Heights are still a hot issue. And the question is, are they attempting to set up the prelude to an annexation to expand their territory some more? You would think Israel, of course, has its hands full. This whole Gaza thing that they haven't been able to get under control over years, even though they've pretty much leveled the place.

• 6:18Jack Murphy?

  And they're also fighting with, you know, Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Iranians. It would seem that you're pretty busy, that as a small country in the Middle East, you kind of have your hands full. So the. The logic of going after Syria is it only makes sense in a very cynical political context, in my opinion.

• 6:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, and yesterday or not even yesterday was like the middle of the night Eastern time. Um, I guess Netanyahu had some kind of like court date or something going on and he told the court for his corruption charges, he told the court that he got like some pressing uh national security concerns. He was trying to, I guess, trying to

• 7:03Speaker 05

  delay it or whatever, or do whatever he can. And then, you know, cut to six hours later, he's bomb, they're bombing the shit out of Syria.

• 7:10Jack Murphy?

  This is, uh, you know, this is something that Putin and Netanyahu have in common, that they are both trying to drag out these wars as long as possible for their own cynical political reasons. Um, it's, it's a height of cynicism to do so, to sacrifice soldiers when there's no strategic purpose that you're just doing it so that you can stay in office and maintain your own personal political power.

• 7:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, uh, yeah, it's brutal to fucking watch, to be honest. Um, also, a day ago, yesterday, they, you know, there was a big, uh, big bunch of reports about the ultra orthodox bouncing out of Netanyahu's coalition, which puts his government at risk and stuff like that. So I am sure he is working whatever he needs to work in terms of lobbying and whatever it is to, uh, to stop that, right? Cause like him getting out of office means he's, he's gonna have to, you know, deal with the charges that he's got to deal with.

• 8:11Jack Murphy?

  I, I'm not super familiar with internal Israeli politics, of course, um, but I do know that they have some pretty profound, uh, demographic issues with the ultra orthodox. And I, I've even spoken to Israelis in the past who fear that it'll lead to the collapse of the Israeli state. I, I don't know if that's true, um, but there's certainly tension there.

• 8:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, and I think the prevailing tension is the uh the fact that they don't serve. They have an exemption of serving. Um, so yeah, well, obviously keep looking at this because it's like it's almost feels like, you know, a couple of weeks goes by and like Israel gets a little itchy. They just bomb another place of another country. And I'm not saying uh Jelani or Ashara, whatever you want to call them is like a good guy and stuff like that. But the fact is last week, two weeks ago, the US took HTS off of the terror list, right? So that like, whether you agree with that or not, I don't really agree with it, but it's like the US is clearly sending signals that we are interested in at least legitimizing this country and this administration or regime.

• 9:18Speaker 05

  And, you know, Asia just goes and like bombs the shit out of it. And, and like you mentioned, uh, they're supposedly doing this because of the Jews population uh uh being like, you know, fucked with and they're fighting with like, uh, I don't know if it's HTS proper or Ashara's regime proper, but it's elements within it and stuff like that.

• 9:39Speaker 05

  I also saw another thing from Charles Lister, the Middle East Institute guy who's like plugged into Syria, saying that like, uh,

• 9:48Speaker 05

  the Israeli uh move or like their goal ever since, you know, Ashara took over is light, quote unquote, light regime change. That's what they've been lobbying DC for. Uh, obviously it's clear they're they're, you know, um, motives are kind of clear now.

• 10:07Jack Murphy?

  One of these like weasel words of like, what is light regime? Yeah. It's, it's like, you know, Arrested Development. You remember he's, uh, I may have committed a light treason. What, what does that mean exactly?

• 10:19Speaker 05

  I feel like that's pretty binary, right? Like what? It's either regime change or you don't want regime change. Uh.

• 10:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't know where this goes. Supposedly they're gearing up for multiple days of this. Uh, they also moved two divisions to the north, uh, just on the Syria-Israel border. So you might be right about them like, you know, moving on the Golan Heights and stuff like that or trying to secure it. Uh, what's funny is it really seemed like Al Shara's new, uh, new government was kind of trying to do whatever it could to like, uh, nor not normalize, but at least like make a deal with Israel and stuff like that. Like they seem pretty, obviously, because they have no really, they have no like to stand on beside, they have no weapons or anything like that, nothing that would really, uh, threaten Israel. But they seem to have been trying to like play nice with Israel.

• 11:12Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, they've been trying to legitimize themselves and like, you know, they went from this ragtag terrorist organization, which they still are in my opinion, but, um, they, they, as you, as you point out, they have been trying to legitimize themselves as, hey, we are an actual government now.

• 11:28Speaker 05

  Yeah. Uh, what do you think happens next? Like the next couple of days and weeks?

• 11:34Jack Murphy?

  Short term, um, I mean, just more of the same, really. Um, Israel has struck Syria numerous times in the past. I don't think HTS, as you point out, really has a lot of capability, um, to strike back at Israel. Um, I, I'm, like I said, I'm, I'm interested to see if Israel actually makes a land grab of Syrian territory, um, during this moment. That's what I would be keeping an eye out for.

• 12:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know the US Special Envoy Tom Barack resp- uh, and the, and broadly, the entire like US, I guess, administration is saying for, is calling for Israel to, uh, pull back and like calm down and, you know, quiet tensions and stuff like that, which is interesting. It's like,

• 12:21Speaker 05

  It's crazy like they undermine every kind of like any kind of like US policy we might be trying to work, they undermine it at every fucking step possible.

• 12:31Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, it is interesting. I mean, our current, you know, the Trump administration seems like they're very much interested in like, let's make a deal. You know, he wants to make a deal with everybody and be a deal maker. Um, I don't think that Trump wakes up in the morning and is like, hey, let's bomb this country. Let's bomb that country. I think his primary thought process is let's make deals. Let's iron these things out and that would look good for him too, as president. Of course, that's a feather in his hat, especially if you can negotiate peace in the Middle East. Oh, my God. Um, but what, what President Trump is encountering is that there's a lot of snakes in the grass. You're dealing with people like HTS, Vladimir Putin, Bibi Netanyahu,

• 13:15Jack Murphy?

  people who are cynical, duplicitous, and they're not interested in your deal making because they have their own prerogatives.

• 13:23Speaker 05

  It's really interesting, like, uh, you know.

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• 14:53Speaker 05

  Daddy, he thinks like, oh yeah, one meeting. Like he'll get in the room and slap some backs and make some jokes and like we can make a deal.

• 15:00Jack Murphy?

  It's a very, it's a very American thing, right? It's like a handshake and we're doing millions of dollars of business. Done deal. Let's do it.

• 15:06Speaker 05

  Yeah. All good. Like we're all making money. So like, why is there beef? It's like a real kind of like mob mentality. Kind of like, oh, why have war? Like war is bad for business. Really? You know what I mean?

• 15:16Jack Murphy?

  Right.

• 15:18Speaker 05

  And obviously it's like Syria is like a fucking complicated Syria, just as an example, is like the most complicated fucking place.

• 15:30Speaker 05

  Like almost ever, right? Like you look from the civil war on, like it's just like changing loyalties. It's just a fucking smorgasbord that you need to like a a fucking doctorate degree to, to understand.

• 15:41Jack Murphy?

  And the, the larger, you know, maybe takeaway for us as Americans that we have to understand is that, you know, as much as we want to make a deal, um, the realities and other parts of these countries, other parts of the world are very different than ours. And that this is why you can't run government like a business because a corporation or a business that is responsive to customers and capital is in so many ways fundamentally different than a government. Whether it's a democracy or not, not a very good democracy in some other part of the world. Um, in, you know, the point you bring up with Israel and Palestine is that you have some things that are indivisible. You cannot just carve this land in half and be like, half goes

• 16:26Jack Murphy?

  to Israel, half goes to the Muslims or the Arab pop, you know, Palestinian population. It's not, it's not that simple. It's not like in business where it's like a win, win, win. Like everyone gets a little slice of the pie. Um, you know, you can't like carve up Ukraine into little pieces and like, oh, Putin gets a piece of this, Zelensky gets a piece of that. Like, people are like, no, no, I want my country back, or I want this entire country to be part of my country. They're not willing to compromise.

• 16:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's just, it's crazy, bro. It takes like, it's like painstaking, obviously, to make a fucking deal that makes sense, right? Like, it takes months, if not years, rather than just like a couple of weeks and like a 180 change in like policy too, which is...

• 17:13Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I mean, we're, we're, we're very incoherent as a country. And I mean, you can, you can look at this, you know, this current administration, but also just administration to administration. I mean, every four to eight years, right? There's some drastic shift. Um, and how do you run a effective policy, foreign policy, um, in countries that have long memories? Um, you know, I've been to Syria a few times and people there will talk about the Sykes-Picot agreement as if it happened yesterday. In reality, that was like a hundred years ago. Uh, but for them, it was yesterday. Uh, and, and I bet, you know, when you go back home, it's similar in Greece. When you talk to people about certain topics,

• 17:54Jack Murphy?

  it's like, it's, it's right there. It's front and center. It's very emotional. Um, and as Americans, we have a hard time understanding that sometimes, that politics for us is oftentimes a source of entertainment. Um, but in other parts of the world, it's this life and death thing that you have to be engaged in because you're surrounded by enemies all the time.

• 18:15Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. Just for, I mean, not even anecdotally, I went to a Greek parochial school until eighth grade to high school and we would go march in the Greek Independence Day parade in New York and like we would chant stuff like... Exo iturki a poti kipro, which means get the Turks out of Cyprus. And this is like, I was in eighth grade 20 years ago, or what, or 25 years ago. So it wasn't like the seventies when it happened. And the other one was for Macedonia, like Ima kedonia inemia keza paramini yapada liniki. And I remember this. This is fucking, I haven't said that in like 30 years or whatever. Constantinople was Greece.

• 18:53Speaker 05

  Well, that don't, yeah, don't get me started with that. We'll be here for another fucking hour. I'm just kidding, cause I'm in New York. I'm American. I understand like beef, like the problem that Greeks have with the Turks and stuff and like the Macedonia thing. There's only one Macedonia, like that's basically, uh, and it's always going to be Greek. That's the, that's the chant. And you have like fucking 11 year olds chanting this shit, right? Like that's what it is. When you're going down the street on Sixth Avenue, where the fuck the parade's at in New York. Uh, so yeah, it's deeply, deeply fucking embedded in like Greeks and especially even Greek Americans, right? Like I was born here. I wasn't like, I didn't come from Greece.

• 19:35Speaker 05

  Uh, so it's just, you're right. Like it's so deeply embedded like here too. It's like politics is fucking a reality show. Yeah, you can engage with it or not engage with it as you choose. Alright, so a bit of breaking news, statement from the Jewish community, uh, announcing a ceasefire in So- Soweta and its full integration into Syria.

• 19:58Speaker 05

  So, you know, people are saying maybe this'll, uh,

• 20:03Speaker 05

  maybe that's a stop the Israelis.

• 20:07Speaker 05

  If I had a bet, I would say no. Uh, yeah, yeah. They probably have a surplus of bombs that they didn't use in Iran. So they gotta use this before they get a restock from the US. Before they buy new ones from us? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, it, it's just in cra- again, not to harp on it, but like.

• 20:25Speaker 05

  How many fucking wars and stuff are like conflicts can you really sustain as Israel?

• 20:30Jack Murphy?

  And as the United States because we're in it too in so many ways.

• 20:36Jack Murphy?

  And you know, my, my issue, I guess, well, I have a lot of issues and a lot of opinions, I suppose. But I mean, the, the one here to point out is that um, there's no clear bottom to this conflict. Like, you know, tell me how this ends. Where, where are you going with this? What's the end game? And I have not seen anyone articulate one. I, I mean, is, is there like a dream of a greater Israel? You know, that's, that's twice the size it is today. I mean, I, I don't know. I haven't heard anyone say that. But I mean, my question is like, how does this conflict come to a close? Since October 7, the United States government has tried to contain the conflict to Gaza. I think that we can safely say at this point that that failed.

• 21:21Jack Murphy?

  You know, we've, I mean, I, I guess I'd give us a C on that one. I mean, we stopped it from turning into a global conflagration. But the conflict is clearly expanded.

• 21:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, you know, and you know, for 55 or so days, we were bombing the tits out of the Houthis, right?

• 21:40Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, we're bombing Iran. You got North Koreans fighting in Ukraine. I mean, this is a global conflict and, and I mean, I am deliberately attaching the two. They're not directly associated with one another. But when you take these conflicts in their totality, are we in the middle of a global war right now? And I, I think we are.

• 22:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, I heard or saw, I think I don't remember what, who brought it up, but it was either like, what do we want? We want World War III or we want Cold War 2.0? And it really does feel like we're Cold War 2.0, like through proxies and stuff like that. Like, it really feels like it's spinning up. And it's just the perfect time to fire like 2 to 3,000 State Department employees, I feel like.

• 22:25Jack Murphy?

  We are, uh, we are definitely at this like interesting crossroads. I mean, I don't like to like sound alarmist, but I mean, it's, it is clear that, you know, the old international order has collapsed at this point. It no longer exists and something new is going to come out of the ashes, a recalibration of world order. Um, but what does that look like? Does it look like a multipolar world? Uh, you know, where America's role is different. Um, and of course that recalibration typically happens after a real global conflict. And so that's the, that's the question I have is are, you know, you know, are we sleepwalking into the next real global war?

• 23:10Jack Murphy?

  Like real slug match?

• 23:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. Which I mean, I think clearly would be China. And what's funny is like, no, some people do, but they don't really talk about where, cause it's all shit is, all this shit is connected. China's obviously, um, probably secretly helping Russia covertly for sure. Um, also they see how we act towards Ukraine, barring this last day or two, when the new $10 billion arms deal was, was talked, was announced and stuff. It's like, we're fucking, you know, behind the eight ball and we're honestly behind it. Uh, we were behind it in the Biden administration too, worried about like the escalation and stuff like that, whether it was F16s, attackums, whatever, high Mars.

• 23:57Speaker 05

  They see that when it comes to Taiwan.

• 23:59Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 23:59Speaker 05

  Right? And the Taiwan thing like, they're not connected to anybody, right? They're not connected to greater Europe where like arms would be easy to get in there. And if like China really went and pushed it. Um, so they, they're clearly taking notes off this and seeing how a Trump administration or the net, whoever else is coming after would react to that.

• 24:19Jack Murphy?

  Taiwan is also facing some of its own internal political issues with the KMT right now, from what I understand. Um, but

• 24:27Speaker 05

  What's going on there? Like, can you give me a little like, cause I'm, I don't know.

• 24:31Jack Murphy?

  Um, just issues with them siding or aligning themselves too closely with China for some people's comfort. Um,

• 24:40Jack Murphy?

  The thing, though, in the context of this conversation, as far as all of the countries that are like, I think would be receptive to the let's make a deal type approach would be China. I'm, I, I think that, you know, despite the saber rattling that we both do, I think China is the most in the camp of like, hey, you know, war is bad for business, bro. You know, let's not do that. You know, they'll fight if, if we, if we want to fight them, but I, I don't sense that they are like, in the sense that like the Israelis and the Russians are like, hey, let's see how we can make this even worse. I, I don't, I don't sense that type of recklessness from the Chinese.

• 25:23Jack Murphy?

  I think they're a little bit smarter about, about this stuff. But, I mean, yeah, I, I mean, how, how it's gonna go with like the tariff sunshine and stuff. I mean, that all remains to be seen.

• 25:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's interesting too. So like moving, let's move to like now more broader Ukraine and, and that I think it was $10 billion arms deal. The Secretary General of NATO, Ruda, was at the White House the other day kissing Trump's ass even more than he was over those text messages, which were fucking brutal. It's like, it's like me texting my ex to like have her back, like babe, I'm sorry, come back, please. It's like embarrassing.

• 26:00Jack Murphy?

  That's how I text Kim Jong Un when I'm in a North Korean prison.

• 26:04Speaker 05

  Right, and exactly.

• 26:05Jack Murphy?

  Your leader, your blessed highness. Hell, Jack would like to see the sunlight one day.

• 26:13Speaker 05

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• 26:59Speaker 05

  which I feel like is still just kicking the can down the road. You know what I mean? It's like. My assumption is the Trump administration, their PR people are like more like, let's kick the can down the road and 50 days, people will forget. And we'll be out of the news cycle. You know what I mean? Like it's that's, that's the vibe anyway.

• 27:16Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I don't, I don't think this conflict is gonna go away. It's not something you can ignore and it's just gonna disappear.

• 27:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know. Even Mick said it, Mick said it too. It's like, it's clear that Ukrainians aren't gonna stop fighting. Like with or without, I mean, they obviously want the support, but with or without it, they're gonna keep fucking going. Understandably so, right? I, I like asking questions like, where do you think it's gonna go? I like a bit of speculation, right? But it's like, you can't even, like, where do you think this goes in the next 50 days?

• 27:48Jack Murphy?

  I don't think it really goes anywhere. I, I think that, you know, they're at a type of stalemate in Ukraine. Um, I, I don't see any big changes there.

• 28:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, um. Do you think they eventually, if like, cause it does seem, you know, Putin's not playing ball with a ceasefire or anything like that? 50 days comes and goes, uh. Do we actually tariff them or sanction them or whatever they wanna call it? Um, do we actually pull through with that? Cause it, it seems like Trump has been getting more and more annoyed with Putin and stuff like that because like, they're just full of shit, the Russians. Like you can't trust the word they fucking say.

• 28:27Jack Murphy?

  Surprise.

• 28:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, like it's right. It's like a shocker. Yeah. Um.

• 28:34Speaker 05

  I, I just, it's crazy. And for anybody to like, any kind of geopolitical persons try and like, uh, guess or estimate where this goes. It's like, every week is a change in policy, every week.

• 28:47Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. I mean, I, I personally, I, I expect throughout the rest of this administration for tariffs to be turned on and off. You know, and, and that, that's part of like the game show politics. Um, but it's also, I, I think the president feels that it's this tool. It's this mechanism he can use to extort what he wants out of people. Um, I'm not sure that that's true. Um, you know, and, and it doesn't seem like it's having that great an effect. Um, I mean, remains to be seen, but.

• 29:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, we were told like, oh yeah, 90 deals in 90 days. I think we have like maybe one or two deals, like it's absolute nonsense. Uh.

• 29:28Speaker 05

  Especially using it as like, cause how much can you fucking use it as a negotiating ploy until it becomes completely useless, right? Until it becomes like, alright.

• 29:38Jack Murphy?

  Well, and also world leaders see that they can just run out the clock, right? Like this guy's only here for what, three more years, little three years and some change?

• 29:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:49Jack Murphy?

  We can eat some tariffs and you know, things will be completely different with the next presidency.

• 29:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, um.

• 29:59Speaker 05

  Epstein, is he a Mossad agent or what?

• 30:02Jack Murphy?

  I mean, there's speculation about that. Um, I've speculated about it too. Sometimes I wonder. Yeah.

• 30:09Speaker 05

  Yeah. Uh, the Epstein list is obviously in the news. Uh, I do have my own conspiracy theories about like, oh, what's why this, why all of a sudden we're giving $10 billion to Ukraine and stuff like that? I feel like it's a move to change the story. Um.

• 30:23Jack Murphy?

  Sure. Yeah.

• 30:24Speaker 05

  Or at least an attempt to it because it doesn't seem to be working because the Epstein stuff still is hanging around. Uh.

• 30:32Jack Murphy?

  I mean, I'll, I'll, I'll just go ahead and, and say it. Uh, you know, that press conference when, you know, the administration decided that they're not going to release the Epstein files. And then there's that press conference that day where the president was asked by a reporter about them. And the way he freaked out about it, said, why are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? That whole conversation. And then some of the social media posts that he made afterwards, just like ranting and raving in all directions. To me, that looks like someone who's just scared shitless.

• 31:05Speaker 05

  Right. Who's all over that. I completely agree.

• 31:08Jack Murphy?

  I mean, there, there's only one reason why you would, or why the president would not want to release the Epstein files. And that's because there is one name in it. One name. One person specifically in those files. Uh, I mean, the only other reason is that you're trying to cover for a group of pedophiles. Right. I mean, why else would you do it?

• 31:29Speaker 05

  There are no good reasons. Correct.

• 31:30Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, there are no good reasons.

• 31:32Speaker 05

  Right. And like, sure, you want to protect victims and stuff like that. But let's be honest, like if you're on the Epstein list, do you really give a fuck about victims?

• 31:42Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I, well, I mean, as far as the people who are the criminals, I mean, fuck them. But the, the victims, yeah, that you do want to protect the victims as much as you can. And look, I've, I've FOIA'd court transcripts before and they will black out the names of victims, you know, to protect them. Um, and if they release the Epstein files with the names of victims blacked out, the American public would understand that. Uh, no, no one would be like upset like, oh, that's a victim. That was like an underage girl. We understand why you're trying to protect that person. Um, and John Q public, you know, people like me and you, I don't think we really care to know who the victims are by name. You know, that's not what's important.

• 32:24Jack Murphy?

  The important thing is that we know who the criminals are by name, uh, and that they're brought to justice.

• 32:29Speaker 05

  Yeah. I think he just posted something just now, maybe 10 or 15 minutes ago as of like, uh, 11 a.m. Uh, saying how it's a democratic hoax and Obama and Biden.

• 32:42Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, he's saying the Epstein file was written by Obama and Comey. It sounds scared. The dude sounds so scared. Like, what, what's in that file, bro?

• 32:52Speaker 05

  It's crazy.

• 32:53Jack Murphy?

  It makes, it, it makes me like my suspicion go from like a, a five or a six to like an eight or a nine, you know?

• 33:01Speaker 05

  It's like clear as day that he is, I mean, in it. Uh,

• 33:07Speaker 05

  he also in that past, I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's absolute like ranting and raving, but I'll give you the, the basic measles sentiment. It's like, uh, the 51, uh, intelligence officers about the Biden laptop paper thing, uh, newspapers ad. And then it's the John Brennan Obama hoax, democratic hoax, and we'll put, we're going to put out everything, all the credible information. That's the new talking point of the FC files. It's like, bro, shit or get off the pot, dude. Stop talking like.

• 33:38Jack Murphy?

  Look over here. Whoa, whoa, look over here.

• 33:40Speaker 05

  It's, it's insane. Uh, cause you, you know. People build Trump as it's like,

• 33:46Speaker 06

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• 34:01Speaker 07

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• 34:12Speaker 06

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• 35:13Speaker 05

  A PR mastermind and I would say he is a marketing genius and stuff like that. But in terms of like

• 35:20Speaker 05

  damage control, he's very, he's not good at that. And this is clear, more clear and clear day goes by that it's, he's, he's really struggling.

• 35:28Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 35:30Speaker 05

  To change the story.

• 35:32Jack Murphy?

  You know, eh, obviously we've all seen the footage of Epstein and Trump at Mar-a-Lago, partying it up. You know, Epstein described Trump at one point as his, his closest or one of his closest friends.

• 35:47Speaker 05

  For 10 years.

• 35:48Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. They were tight. And from what I recall, they, they, they kind of had a breakup, so to speak, because they both bid on some property down in Florida. They caught it, got it loggerheads over that.

• 36:05Jack Murphy?

  But I mean, from, from what I've read, Trump is on the flight logs. I mean,

• 36:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 36:10Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Who, who knows what else is in that file?

• 36:14Speaker 05

  Yeah. And there was some reporter, I don't know if it was New York Times, New Yorker, they had like a bunch of, um, interviews with Epstein. I think it was 2017 and it really seemed like Epstein had an intimate knowledge of what was going on during Trump 1.0.

• 36:30Speaker 05

  So, and that's, I think where he mentioned that they were like the very good friends for like the better part of 10 years and stuff.

• 36:38Speaker 05

  It, it's intent, it's a while to watch like the social media landscape go kind of wild where it's like you have these like fire breathers that are usually like, fucking any kind of story having to do with a left, left politician, they'll, they'll, you know, do whatever they can't amplify. And now, you have guys who are like, I trust the people in the administration and stuff like that. Like it's like, dude, and that's not all like the MAGA people. Some people are really upset about it and like chirping about it. Cause you have like a two sides of it, right? You have like the tech bro, fascist MAGA, and then you have like the Steve Bannon MAGA. So like there is a bit of a rift there. Uh, but it, it, the cope is kind of fucking nuts to watch, bro.

• 37:22Jack Murphy?

  It's the mental gymnastics that people do, you know, to try to protect themselves and their own previous views. Um, no one wants to come forward and be like, yeah, I was wrong. Like I believed something that was not true or, uh, you know, I, I, I invested myself emotionally in a political candidate, um,

• 37:43Speaker 05

  Right.

• 37:43Jack Murphy?

  who is not a good guy. Um, but I, I mean, I, I see no reason why any of us need to be emotionally invested in politicians. Um,

• 37:52Speaker 05

  I agree, man.

• 37:52Jack Murphy?

  You, you just, you just use them for what they're useful for. And the second they are no longer useful, you discard them. Discard them like trash. Um, you don't need them. You know, it's, whoever the president is, whoever, you know, my senator is, I mean, he's not my daddy. He's not. Um, he's just a guy. And you want him to advocate for political policies that you agree with and that you want to see implemented. The second they're not doing that, get rid of them.

• 38:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't see how I don't understand why people see these people like heroes.

• 38:26Jack Murphy?

  It's something to do with like, I think, American culture and like how you can see it in like even legislation we pass like it has like branding around it. Like, everything has to be branded. It has to be in your face. There has to be a, you know, multimedia, uh, spread on it. It's just something about like advertising and how Americans respond to things that, you know, we create these cults of personality.

• 38:50Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah, it's and it's definitely got to do with like the meat. You're right. How like the media disseminate stuff. I mean, even with Obama, right? Like he was the hope and change candidate. I mean,

• 39:03Jack Murphy?

  Oh, yeah, people were totally irrational about what he was capable to do. Yeah.

• 39:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, you know, even the Obamacare thing, like, sure, it's like a half measure, you know? At the end of the day, he took away the public option because the insurance lobby told him to take away the public option. To get it passed in a, in a Congress that was majority Democrat, both at both houses. So just think about that, like the president doesn't have ultimate power and like, yeah, some snazzy, you know, yes, we can or lock her up or whatever. Ken is nice to cheer at a rally or think about or argue with your friends about.

• 39:40Jack Murphy?

  Or promises that they're going to bring down the price of gasoline. They're going to lower inflation. It's like, ah, okay.

• 39:47Speaker 05

  Right. As if they have like real fucking, uh, like a real pull on being able to do something like that. Maybe inflation somewhat with the Fed, but like gas is gas, but it's a market price like it's.

• 39:59Jack Murphy?

  OPEC.

• 40:00Speaker 05

  Right.

• 40:03Speaker 05

  So Epstein is a Mossad agent. Got it.

• 40:07Jack Murphy?

  I mean, I, I, I don't know that for a fact. I couldn't prove it in a court of law, but I, I, if I was an FBI agent assigned to this case, I would investigate that lead and see if there's anything to it. I'll put it that way.

• 40:22Speaker 05

  Also, the sketchy thing as well, what they what they did release was the the DOJ release was the video of like inside the prison in New York where like where it's cut. It's been the metadata show that it was like edited four times or whatever. And I think another report came out that is up almost three minutes cut out of it. So the timestamps might be even bullshit, possibly. And so it's like, dude, you can't put like, what are you doing? We're we're we're a country of fucking conspiracy theorists and you're you're just

• 40:53Jack Murphy?

  Throwing gas on the fire.

• 40:55Speaker 05

  Petrol on it. Yeah. It's it's so fucking dumb, especially PR wise. It's so dumb.

• 41:04Speaker 05

  I don't know. What else we got? What else you track? What's going on with you in the high side? What are we working on?

• 41:10Jack Murphy?

  Uh, working on a piece right now about um, the CIA in Afghanistan. And it's a specific compartmentalized program that existed while we were over there.

• 41:26Jack Murphy?

  It's probably about as far as I should go with uh, with describing it right now. But it's it's going to be a very interesting piece that we're working on, like some really like in-depth details and knowledge about this program.

• 41:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one. When are we expecting it? Ballpark?

• 41:45Jack Murphy?

  Next week.

• 41:46Speaker 05

  All right, cool. Cool.

• 41:50Speaker 05

  Of course, the team has, what else you got going on? New novel?

• 41:54Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Coming out next year. Stages of that, that'll be out in the spring.

• 42:01Jack Murphy?

  In August, going to Tech Advisor on a Vietnam War documentary. So I'll be gone for a couple of days.

• 42:09Jack Murphy?

  That's about it, man. Just trying to enjoy my summer. You know, I feel it slipping by so fast. So I'm uh, making the effort to, you know, just go and sit in the park and read and go out. I went out, uh, went bar hopping with uh, my girlfriend yesterday. I'm around Brooklyn. Yeah, I know, because she doesn't drink. Um, she's very, she's very patient with me.

• 42:36Jack Murphy?

  Um, well, we've got some concert tickets, going to see some shows this summer and into the fall. That's about it.

• 42:43Speaker 05

  Cool. Yeah. And of course the team house and I have read the novel for early drafts. It's fucking solid. And I'm not saying that to blow smoke up your ass. It's fucking good.

• 42:51Jack Murphy?

  I'm, I'm, I'm happy with it. Um, and I, I look forward to being able to talk a little bit more about, you know, what it's about and, and hopefully it spirals into a series. Um, that's, that's the hope. Um, so yeah, I'm looking forward to getting that out into the world.

• 43:05Speaker 05

  All we gotta do is just get a, get a, uh, A-list star to be attached to it, you know, in terms of like maybe, maybe making a TV show or a movie on it. And then like, that's all you really fucking need.

• 43:18Jack Murphy?

  Done.

• 43:19Speaker 05

  Yeah. Uh, of course, guys, do us a favor. Check out the newsletter. The link will be in the description. It gives you everything. It aggregates all, everything we're doing with the team house, eyes on high side in one place. You can get all, any and all updates. If you miss some podcasts, you could see what we're working on coming up. Uh, it really just helps cut through all the bullshit. You could see exactly what it is we're doing. Um, I'm excited about the newsletter. Should be good. We got a good guy working on it too. Um, and of course, Jack Murphy, High Side, link is in the description as well. Team House, of course. Um,

• 43:56Speaker 05

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• 43:59Jack Murphy?

  Please.

• 43:59Speaker 05

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• 44:27Jack Murphy?

  I know. I think that's about it. Um, cool. Thank you, everyone who, you know, subscribes to the channel, subscribes to the Patreon and keeps us going. Really appreciate it.

• 44:38Speaker 05

  Yep. Thanks, guys. We'll see you next time.

• 44:41Jack Murphy?

  Hey, guys. It's Jack. I just want to talk to you for a moment about how you can support the show. If you've been watching it, enjoying it, but you'd like to get a little bit more involved and help us continue to do this, you can check out our Patreon. It is patreon.com/the Team House. And for $5 a month, you can get access to all of these episodes of The Team House ad-free. The same goes with our affiliated podcast, Eyes On, with Andy Milburn, Jason Lyons, Mick Mulroy. That one, you will also get all of those episodes ad-free. And you support the channel and the show, and we really appreciate it. The Patreon members are literally what has helped this company, this small business survive, especially during

• 45:25Jack Murphy?

  our early years. And you are what continues to help this thing going, even as we navigate the turbulent world of YouTube advertising. So we really appreciate all of you guys. There's going to be a link down in the description to that Patreon page. And there is also going to be a link to our new merch shop. So if you guys want to go and get some Team House merchandise, we got stickers, and we also have patches. And I should mention, if you sign up for Patreon at $10 a month, we will mail you this patch as well. So we really appreciate that. But they're also for sale on the merch shop. And additionally, they got t-shirts up there, water bottles, a tote bag, coffee.

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