Errol Spence: I am the A side on welterweight title bout vs Bud Crawford, a legacy fight

FOLLOW THE PIVOT PODCAST: MERCH | https://pivotpodcast.com YOUTUBE | https://www.youtube.com/thepivotpodcast INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/thepivot TWITTER | https://twitter.com/thepivot TIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@thepivot FACEBOOK | https://www.facebook.com/thepivotpodcast FOLLOW HAPPY DAD: https://www.instagram.com/happydad FIND HAPPY DAD: https://www.happydad.com/find Sitting down with the guys may be a 2nd time move for Errol Spence Jr but the man we talk to and the conversation we have is on an entire different level as we see a side of Spence that hasn’t been shown before. With the welterweight title bout vs Terrance Bud Crawford is upon us on July 29th in Las Vegas, confidence is at an all time high as Spence explains to Ryan, Channing and Fred how when he steps in the ring it’s about legacy and leaving no doubt who is the undisputed champ at 147 pounds. The Spence Crawford fight is the most anticipated boxing match over the past few years and the one fans and the sport has been asking for and needed to answer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:20Speaker 01

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• 0:31Fred Taylor?

  Oh, there you go. Daddy, here's the big fish.

• 0:35Ryan Clark?

  Oh, boy. Good to see you, dawg.

• 0:38Fred Taylor?

  Yes, sir. Taking light, man.

• 0:42Ryan Clark?

  Little man, what's happening?

• 0:44Fred Taylor?

  What's up, boss, man? How you doing?

• 0:45Ryan Clark?

  Yes, sir.

• 0:46Fred Taylor?

  All is good?

• 0:46Ryan Clark?

  You might as well.

• 0:47Fred Taylor?

  Yes, sir. Do your thing, dude.

• 0:49Ryan Clark?

  Hey, little man. Little man be in the streets tonight in Dallas.

• 0:53Channing Crowder?

  Nah, daddy, go home.

• 0:55Ryan Clark?

  Daddy, go home.

• 0:55Channing Crowder?

  I'm good. I be around.

• 0:57Ryan Clark?

  Hey, pops, you got a fight coming up. You can't be in these streets.

• 1:01Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 1:01Ryan Clark?

  First off, shout out, Happy Dad. We appreciate y'all. What the tour been like, man? Like, what was the press tour like?

• 1:07Speaker 05

  It was grueling, though, because they had us all over in California. And then after the press conference in California, we had to go to New York. We got there like 1:00 in the morning. And then me, I'mma run as soon as I get there. So I got there, ran, went to bed like 2:00 or 3:00. They were trying to get me up for the Breakfast Club at like 7:00 in the morning. I was like, nah, I put my phone down.

• 1:29Ryan Clark?

  You ran through the city?

• 1:31Speaker 05

  Oh, nah, nah. Nah, I ain't run through the city.

• 1:34Channing Crowder?

  Oh, see, it's messed up, because when you say you ran, my mind went, I hit, like, I hit the street. And then it clicked when you were talking about, I was like, ow.

• 1:45Channing Crowder?

  You can't hit nothing in an hour.

• 1:48Fred Taylor?

  No, but he's like that, though. And when he play, he's like, the biggest game of his life, he gonna run the streets.

• 1:53Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, it was crazy. It's funny that you say that.

• 1:55Speaker 05

  I used to do that, you know, until something happened, I just stopped. Can't do the same stuff over and over. Your body don't cope the same.

• 2:03Ryan Clark?

  That's real talk.

• 2:04Speaker 05

  I'd be tired for like 2, 3 days. In the bed, in the bed, about 2, 3 days. I can't, I can't go out like I used to.

• 2:12Ryan Clark?

  Do you see like they're building? One belt, two belts, three belts. Like, do you see it? Does it get, does it get bigger?

• 2:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:18Ryan Clark?

  Every time that you?

• 2:20Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, for sure. I think like the press conference really gets you more pumped up. Cause you know, you seeing each other face to face. His train is talking, my train is talking. So he's saying a little stuff to get me kinda ticked off. So I start saying a little stuff, getting him ticked off. So it really gets you pumped up, especially you on each other face to face. The little faceoff, we staring at each other to get you ready to go.

• 2:42Ryan Clark?

  We watched, you know, the build up to it. It is so much tension right now. And it's like, you always say, you'll be like, I, I respect him, but he can't really box with me. I respect him, but he ain't fought nobody. Like, you'll be like, but, but you can't say you respect a nigga and say nobody's no.

• 2:58Speaker 05

  Nah, nah, nah, you know, I respect him for sure. Like, I respect what he done done and I respect his, his talents. But he, he has improved. I feel like he hasn't really fought anybody. And I just feel like me versus him, I'm just, it don't matter who it is, you know, I'm just gonna run him over.

• 3:43Ryan Clark?

  This is not Errol Spence the second in your name. This is Errol Spence second time on the pivot. You know what I mean? And just to be, uh, have you here again, man, is a testament to how you continue to build. But also, man, to, to who you are and the way you grind. The last question I asked you, I said, I was like, Bud, we gonna see it? And you said, you was like, every belt I have, I've taken it from somebody. I'm about to go get number three. You dang to act like you didn't have to fight, uh, you guys, uh, that Saturday. You said, I'm gonna get number three and I'm not leaving until I get number four. And throughout the press tour, you said, I'm a man of my word.

• 4:26Ryan Clark?

  Now that you have done everything to make the fight, right? Twenty-eight and oh, thirty-nine and oh, thirty knockouts, twenty-two knockouts.

• 4:37Channing Crowder?

  Who's the A-side? Who is the, who is the guy coming into this fight?

• 4:43Speaker 05

  I'm the guy for sure. I'm the, I'm the A-side. It gotta be A-side. And that's why we was going, that's why the business side was kinda, cuz, cuz with him, he just didn't wanna believe that, you know, I was the A-side. Like, I'm the big dog. When we talk about ticket sales, talk about putting butts in the seats, all that. Like, I'm him. You know what I'm saying? And he didn't wanna believe it. He was like, well, I did this. I won these belts. I did this. That's cool. We try to take that to the bank. That's what somebody's telling us. Cool. All them accolades, cool. But take that to the bank and see what you get for it. You know what I'm saying? Like, when we talk about putting butts in the seats, I can do that. When you talk about people viewing, I can do that.

• 5:27Speaker 05

  So, you know, he really didn't, didn't understand it or didn't wanna understand it. But...

• 5:34Channing Crowder?

  You bring that up cuz I heard, like I said, it's been some media before this and I'd have checked it out. And there was a FaceTime. Is that what happened?

• 5:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 5:41Channing Crowder?

  Y'all talk?

• 5:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, we FaceTimed.

• 5:43Channing Crowder?

  You ain't never got into it. What was that FaceTime about? Because that conversation, if me and him sitting here like, I'm the dog, I'm the big dog. No, I'm the big dog. Bitch, fuck you. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't know how that conversation go with y'all, but that's how it would go with me. How was that like when, cuz this fight, it was hard to get this fight, is what everybody understand. It was difficult to make this happen, but it's, it's happening. What was, what was that like when y'all actually got together man to man and figured it out?

• 6:07Speaker 05

  The first time we FaceTime, it was more just a fill out. Like, we was just talking on the phone, talking about family, talking about life, talking about investments, all this type of different things, talking about, you know, the state of boxing, what's in, who's good. And we were just filling each other out, talking about kids, all that. And then we probably talked about the boxing part like five, like five, like five, 10 minutes. And then the next time we got on FaceTime, we started talking more about it. He started telling me, you know, the stuff that he was concerned about and the things he wanted. And, you know, it, it made sense to me. It made sense. I was like, yeah, I understand that. Like, he wanted to know, basically, you know, about everything. Where every dollar's going to, you know, so.

• 6:51Speaker 05

  And he wanted to be a part of it and I understood it. Because you know, wherever he came from with Top Rank and Bob and them, they gave him no control over there. So he was trying to take control over his own career and basically, you know, make sure everything structured out right. So that was kind of a big hurdle to get over right there. And then with me, I really, I feel like I really got this fight because it was things he was asking for. That, you know, Al and them was like, that I wasn't gonna, you know, they thought I wasn't gonna do it. And we talking about percentages. And you know, I basically was like, yeah, like, like give him that, you know, just to fight. It's just a fight I want, period.

• 7:37Speaker 05

  Regardless of, you know, anybody else or moving up, fighting somebody like, I feel like I can't leave 147 pounds. Without fighting him and he can't leave 147 pounds without fighting me regardless of what he say. I feel like he's my dancing partner and I'm his dancing partner.

• 7:54Fred Taylor?

  That's hard though.

• 7:55Speaker 05

  We meant for each other. So we gotta make it happen. This one is letting their fights, this is like Sugar Ray not fighting Tommy Hearns.

• 8:03Fred Taylor?

  Correct.

• 8:03Speaker 05

  Or Tommy Hearns not fighting Marvin Hagler, you know, so it's something that basically for me, I feel like it had to happen.

• 8:11Fred Taylor?

  With that, there's a lot of numbers involved. You were just saying you felt like you was the draw to big dog, but they got you as the underdog.

• 8:18Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 8:18Fred Taylor?

  How you feel about that?

• 8:20Speaker 05

  Uh, I really don't, don't feel nothing about it. I mean, my people gonna win a lot of money, but.

• 8:27Fred Taylor?

  I'm your people.

• 8:31Speaker 05

  I don't, I don't feel nothing about it and you know, I'm a rational person, so you know, maybe I should be the underdog. If, if, if you, you know, tell these, these people to do all the best and stuff, what I've been through, what the stuff that occurred. In the past two, three years, I mean, I should be the underdog. We talking about car crash, eye injuries and, and everything, so. I mean, if they read up on that, they probably be like, yeah, we gonna make him my underdog. Cause you know, Taren Crawford's accolades and yeah, I've been winning, but you know, they see all that. They, you know, they researched everything and see all that type of stuff and then, you know, make their draw on it. But I'm not tripping about being underdog.

• 9:16Speaker 05

  I feel like that that makes for a better story for me.

• 9:19Fred Taylor?

  Talking about better stories, you ever thought about what your Showtime or Netflix story might look like? Cause last time we sat down with you, you had the accident, then the fight. Then you just recently had an accident in December, now you got the fight. I'm talking about perseverance and rebuilding and like that story itself, I think will be amazing on film. You ever think about things like that?

• 9:42Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely. Like I documented a lot of stuff, like I got videos and everything with, you know, no teeth playing with my kids out there. Like they joking with me and I, my eyes swollen, you know, I got gash and everything. So, yeah, I, I had thought about it and I was like, man, I wish I recorded, but at that time I was too embarrassed to, to have somebody record me. Like I was like a hundred and ninety pounds, like, you know, my hair was growing out wild, you know, and I was still, and I was still wild too, like after my car crash, I was still like going out, drinking and everything and having fun, partying and everything right after my car crash.

• 10:24Channing Crowder?

  We talked about it, bruh. Get a motherfucking driver.

• 10:29Channing Crowder?

  Like, let's talk real, you know, we done sat down, now's our second time sitting down, bruh. Your ass can't drive. Your ass do not need to grab a wheel the rest of your life. Like, get a driver.

• 10:39Speaker 05

  On the court, I do need to get a driver because to the day, to the day, I'm still like, I get, I get nervous. And it's the fact that I'm so brave that I drive, like, I don't be tripping. Bruh, I don't know if it's stupidity or what, but I be nervous as hell. Like even when I'm at the rally, like, like I just envision like a car coming and crashing into me or, when I'm driving, like I visualize, I can't even, I gotta stay in the middle. I can't drive like about a while or nothing, because I just envision somebody hitting me or something like that. Or if I'm driving past a four-way lane, like I just. Imagine somebody or like running the light and hitting me. So it'd just be, it'd be things like that. I definitely do need to get a driver.

• 11:24Ryan Clark?

  I'll drive for you. Hey, after this, after this, he'll have enough to pay us all to drive, so, man, we, we might need to do it for real. Somebody to hang with, we got you, man.

• 11:34Fred Taylor?

  Even with that, you know, Chan talking about the driver, all that different stuff. And, you know, from your last fight versus Ugas, you know, to now, the time in between the fights. You know, a lot of things go on. How do you maintain your discipline, you know, your focus? Knowing that this fight was potentially on the horizon. Like, how do you stay in it so you don't have to do so much to get back ready to get ready for this, this type of fight?

• 12:00Speaker 05

  I just, I just stayed at home, basically. I mean, I stayed at home all the time, like, I barely, I barely went out. Like, not, I'm only talking about club, I'm just talking about went out, period, like, hanging out with friends, internet, like, I just stayed home with my ranch. Kick with my kids, do something with my kids, do something with my girlfriend all the time, like, that's how I spend most of my time. Because I don't get in trouble when I'm with my girlfriend.

• 12:30Speaker 05

  I thought about that, I was like, man, I don't never get in trouble when I'm with my girlfriend or my kids. Like, it's always if I'm with my partner.

• 12:38Ryan Clark?

  That's, that's usually how we become partners, though, dawg. That's usually how it happens.

• 12:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, like, I'm never in trouble, like, when I'm with my girl, everything's smooth, like, nothing ever happened, but soon as, you know, I drift off.

• 12:53Speaker 05

  Hang out with my guys, something, something happens. So I just killing with my girl. My kids are just staying out the way. I pop up in the gym, do workout at the gym, run. But it was basically just being at home, watch TV.

• 13:06Ryan Clark?

  The other thing that I want to know, like, in listening to you, I don't understand the mindset of a combat sports athlete. Right? Like, I know what football is and what it's like to have teammates, and I know that if this dude, I can't really handle him, I might have Chan. I'd be like, Chan, man, you need to take this block on, let me get around. For you, it's, once I'm inside that ring, it's me and you. When you talk about having a conversation with a guy, you're talking about kids, and you're talking about investments, and you're talking about life and all those things. How does that affect you when it comes to having to go dismantle this man? To continue your career, your longevity.

• 13:46Speaker 05

  I feel like I'm an apex predator. It's just like, I can be in the locker room, talking to my opponent, chilling. We can be playing dominoes in the locker room, and it's fighting night. Dominoes, playing cards, playing the video games. And then as soon as somebody come in, commissioner come in, be like, it was fight time. Once we get in the ring, I don't even know you. Like, I'm a stray, try to decapitate you, destroy you. And I don't know where that comes from. I guess it's just, it's that if factor, it's what makes, you know, some people great, and some people good, and some people okay. Because not everybody got that, you know? That's what the instincts of a Floyd, or Manny Pacquiao, or Mike Tyson.

• 14:31Speaker 05

  You know, Muhammad Ali. You know, I can, like even, like Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, you know, got him re-estated back into boxing after, after he refused to go to the military. Yeah, like, he didn't even know Joe Frazier, he did that for him.

• 14:46Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 14:47Speaker 05

  You know, he talking about him like a dog, and they fought each other like dogs. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I am. Like, it doesn't matter if I know you, he can be my best friend. You know, once we get in the ring, my competitiveness come out, and I don't, I don't know, I don't know you from can of paint.

• 15:04Ryan Clark?

  As far as boxing goes, E, you haven't experienced professional disappointment, right? Inside the ring. Like, you have just experienced success in being the best.

• 15:17Speaker 05

  Olympics.

• 15:18Ryan Clark?

  That was gonna be my question. I said professionally.

• 15:21Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 15:22Ryan Clark?

  Right? Professionally. Because in 2012, you get outpointed, right? You guys appeal, and they say, okay, the guy held me, held you nine times in the third, and he spit out his mouthpiece on purpose in the second. And then you get that, another opportunity against the Russians, and you get outpointed, or you lose 16 to 11. And you had to face that disappointment in moving into the pro ranks. How did that affect you, and what did you learn from that experience?

• 15:51Speaker 05

  That experience there, I feel like it really made me a monster, because... Even when I, when I lost the first time, I had to, um, you know, get reinstated back in. Like, man, I never broke down. I broke down on national TV. Like, it wasn't a national TV. That's, that's the world. Like, the way I broke down, just cried and, you know, I was hurt because I trained so hard and my goal was, you know, to win a gold medal. And for me, and especially when I lost to the Russian, I felt like I should have beat him. But, and I beat him probably, I beat him three, not probably, I beat him three months prior to the Olympics.

• 16:31Speaker 05

  So that was really gave me, I'm like, man, I know I could have beat him. I should have beat him. So, once I turned to pros, my whole thing was, you know, I'm not gonna lose. I'm gonna try not to let it go to the scorecards unless I'm just beating him so decisively, so decisively that, you know, the judges can't, there's nothing they can do. They're gonna give me the decision. So for me, it's just, I just gotta keep training hard and just stay focused.

• 16:59Channing Crowder?

  Is that during, like, when you out there and you throw so many damn punches? You just slaying them niggas. And he's staying in the pocket too. Oh, yeah. I be feeling sorry for them niggas. Like, God damn, what you gonna do? But is that, like, when you think about that, like, okay, I could win this with points, or I gotta knock him out? And that thought process that you have during the fight, is that when you sitting down? Is that in the middle of the fight? Is that when you talking to your trainer? Like, to be able to rationalize that, knowing that this dude that's staring at me is trying to knock you out? When is that thought, thought process happening where you can really decide, I have to do this or have to do that?

• 17:32Speaker 05

  Well, my, my thought process, process, once I get in the ring is basically to break him down. Because I feel like a lot of these boxers don't train, they don't train like me, and they're not willing to give, give it their all. So, I know the body can only take so much before, before it break down. So if I feel like if I keep chopping, it's like, it's like your drip of water hitting a brick. After a while, Their water gonna start chipping at their brick and get through. So I just keep coming at them, keep coming on, keep touching them, keep touching them. And I don't think I throw, I don't throw, I don't throw a lot of punches. I just keep, I just keep touching you. I just keep touching you. That's the thing, I just keep touching you.

• 18:14Speaker 05

  I keep putting my hands on, keep touching you, keep touching you. And it don't even be, like a lot of times, it don't be hard loading up shots. It just be, I'm touching you, touching you, and I'm just hitting you, hitting you, hitting you. And it's basically making your mind overthink. Cause your mind working too. Not only is your reaction time, everything, everything working, but your mind is going to overload. So everything going to overload. And I just keep coming. And they, they see me the eight, nine, ten round. And I stand up like, you know, like it's nothing. I'm so nonchalant, I should be like, I'm gonna keep coming. You know what I'm saying? You in trouble. So, you know, I just keep coming to their will. Cause I just feel like the body can, and the mind can only, it can only take so much punishment.

• 18:59Fred Taylor?

  You know how when you was young, you say, I want this for Christmas and you get excited? It seems just following you on our social media, like your confidence is different than before your last fight. It's like, you like, I wanna show the world like this the big one. I'm ready for this. You talking about training and being ready, doing things differently. Which brings me to this point. We've had some fighters on the show, right? A lot of UFC fighters that we've had on the show, they've done the show, then they went out and lost. And people would say, hey, y'all got a pivot curse on you.

• 19:29Ryan Clark?

  I don't really know if it's a lot of UFC fighters.

• 19:32Fred Taylor?

  Well, we've had some UFC fighters on the show. And then they, people would say, you got a pivot curse. But we did you, you didn't lose boxing. We did Haney, he didn't lose.

• 19:42Ryan Clark?

  Deontay?

• 19:43Fred Taylor?

  Deontay, he didn't lose.

• 19:45Speaker 05

  You talking about my man Ouzma, I know you talking about him.

• 19:47Fred Taylor?

  I mean, no, it was some other stuff, not just Ouzma. It was, it was somebody else on the show too that.

• 19:52Ryan Clark?

  Okay Fred, Isra Adesanya too, okay.

• 19:55Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, and I love those guys, good dudes. But I'm, this is more so for the fans, right? My thing is this, hard work. Like, there's no, there's no substitute for that. You get out what you put in, the daily deposits, you know, and, and can you speak, are you superstitious? Like, do you believe in that shit?

• 20:13Speaker 05

  Um, I, I was superstitious, but I'm not because for a long time, like, I didn't want to talk about death for none of that. And after my crash, I didn't have any will set up, I didn't have my will set up, nothing set up, my trust, nothing. So, for like, months, we talking about death, who I'm gonna get this to, that to, and my kids get this and that, and this percentage, and we talking about, you know, school funds and all that, and, and for me, like, it made me uneasy talking about it at first, I was like, like, in the black community, that's taboo, like, just to be talking about death and talking about

• 20:54Speaker 05

  stuff you don't want to happen, because we think it's gonna happen, so I was like, man, I, I was, like, I told her, I was like, man, this kinda bugging me out a little bit, keep talking about my death. Well, I know, I know it needs to happen, so we gonna keep talking about it, and, you know, and we talking about it for like, eight months, and, and nothing happened, so, you know, I don't, I don't too much believe in, I believe, you know, stuff just happen to us, you know? And I just believe cause and effect, too, so, I, I, and I believe, I believe my hard work, hard work, smart work, and just doing it, doing it the right way, and just keeping up with technology, because a lot of times, you know,

• 21:37Speaker 05

  even with me, like, I was so hard-headed, stuck in the old-school boxing way, and wearing sauna suits, and, you know, sweating crazy, not drinking water like that, and it took my nutritionist Elliot, basically, just to, you know, tell me, like, he had to retrain my whole brain, did you drink water? Because I was like, man, you sure? He was like, yeah, man, just drink water, like, drinking a gallon and a half a day, like, now I'm drinking a gallon and a half a day, and I wasn't doing that, babe, then, like, I was barely drinking two liters, and I'm in a hundred and some degrees, yeah, I'm gonna run a five, six miles a day, like, I'm dehydrated, but I had to dehydrate myself, well, I felt like

• 22:16Speaker 05

  I needed to dehydrate myself just to lose weight, but that's not how you, how you go about it, by calories, but I ain't understand the- I guess it's an older person game, a slow process. You know, it's more of a slow process, losing calories and instead of drinking water, because your body's like ninety, eighty percent water. So you need it to function. And I didn't really understand it, so it's about hard work, but it's about, you know, being smart about it and keeping up with technology and getting the right people with you. Like, I feel like boxing is kind of a team sport, especially now, because I got nutritionists, I got a coach, you know. My friend Jordan helped me out with different things, my dad helped me out with different things.

• 22:58Speaker 05

  So I got a lot of people in place where they, where they help me out, especially Al. And Showtime, everybody helps me out with different things and to make sure what I do is easy and I just focus on boxing.

• 23:12Channing Crowder?

  Chan, then you say, before you came in though, you said you wanted him to help you out with your gear, huh?

• 23:17Speaker 05

  No, no, no.

• 23:18Channing Crowder?

  Remember you said, you said you was gonna ask him?

• 23:21Speaker 05

  I said he changed.

• 23:23Channing Crowder?

  How he changed?

• 23:23Speaker 05

  He changed, because I saw him in that first press conference. And now I see his little, uh, Black Panther fro.

• 23:31Speaker 05

  And the first time we met him, he was tight, he was clean.

• 23:34Channing Crowder?

  And I saw, I was looking at the press conference, that first one, you had on the white shirt open, you had on the black suspenders. You had on the Malcolm X glasses.

• 23:42Speaker 05

  Man, that wasn't suspended. It was like a holster, it was like a holster.

• 23:47Channing Crowder?

  I ain't know if you, if you went to Muslim, I didn't know.

• 23:53Channing Crowder?

  Was that stra- was it strategic or something? Because I, I didn't, I didn't see that either. You dressed like the A-side.

• 23:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm, I'm just fly, like.

• 24:00Channing Crowder?

  That's why I was fly.

• 24:01Speaker 05

  I switched, I switched it up, like in California, you know, Alexander McQueen had some fresh stuff on. And then in, in New York, you know, I had more of a chill, a chill, you know, style. But I, you know, I still had some fresh stuff on, so, you know, I just, I just, I put that stuff on.

• 24:18Channing Crowder?

  And, but it, but I got, is the, are the glasses prescribed?

• 24:21Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, nah, they prescribed.

• 24:22Channing Crowder?

  They prescribed, because they sta- but you don't wear them during the fight? Can you see, can you see that motherfucking bruise?

• 24:28Speaker 05

  Nah, I can't see far, but I can see, I can see him close. That's why I be like, why y'all always like talk about my, my eyesight? I don't need to see far away, like, we in a ring. Like, I can see him.

• 24:41Ryan Clark?

  He ain't doing nothing you can't see.

• 24:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, I ain't doing nothing I can't see. Like, I can see him.

• 24:45Ryan Clark?

  In your last fight against your Dennis Ogas, your mouthpiece fell and he kinda rocked you, right? And I don't, boxing doesn't seem fun to me or like something you should laugh and enjoy. So your mouthpiece falls out, he hits you, you hit the ropes, you started laughing. What the hell was funny?

• 25:03Speaker 05

  Nah, well, I started laughing because, and he didn't rock me, he really surprised me because, like, I had a partial in my mouth, basically.

• 25:11Ryan Clark?

  Partial?

• 25:12Speaker 05

  From a car crash.

• 25:13Ryan Clark?

  Okay.

• 25:13Speaker 05

  So I had a partial in my mouth, like, my three, these three front teeth. So I put glue in it every day and put it in my mouth and put it extra tight. But usually, like, Danny Garcia fight, I took my partial out and I put my mouthpiece in. But this fight with Ogas, I put my partial in. So when we, it's basically a bridge, it's how the bridge. So I put my bridge in and when we fighting and he knocked my mouthpiece out, the first thing come to my mind is my teeth on the ground.

• 25:43Speaker 05

  Like, the first thing come to my mind, man, my, damn, he did knock my teeth out. Like, so, I'm not wor, like, he disappeared. Like, I don't see him anymore.

• 25:54Ryan Clark?

  Cause you were looking dull.

• 25:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, as soon as my mouthpiece came out, I said, I was, you see my mouth like that, like?

• 26:02Speaker 05

  Like, cause I was trying to feel for my teeth to see if it's in my mouth. But I'm looking at the ground to see if my teeth on the ground, cause that shit would've been embarrassing to hear. He knocked my teeth out, like, that'd have been the first ever. So I, as soon as he knocked me out, like, oh, I'm like, oh, crap. And then he just, dude, hit me, dude. And then when he hit me, I fell into the ropes, but I'm still, I did like that and then it's in. So I just smile. I'm like, okay, it's in now.

• 26:33Ryan Clark?

  Cause I got my teeth.

• 26:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was like, I got my teeth.

• 26:36Ryan Clark?

  I got teeth across the front.

• 26:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 26:38Ryan Clark?

  And my kids would jump sometimes and hit my face and I'd be the same way. I'd be like,

• 26:44Ryan Clark?

  cause you don't wanna be the dude with that big ass jackal in his ass face smiling. Yeah, man.

• 26:49Channing Crowder?

  You thought about that in the middle of that?

• 26:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, I've been so embarrassed, man, my teeth on the ground. Like, man, Instagram, Twitter is ruthless, so, man, that would destroy me.

• 27:01Ryan Clark?

  It would've made you look tough as hell, though. You know what I mean? Like, for a guy that's won as much as you have, that would've been the first time you actually looked like what you had been through. You know what I mean?

• 27:13Speaker 05

  Man, that was, boy, that was a screenshot of that, that would've been everywhere.

• 27:18Ryan Clark?

  You know, bro, you know, I haven't really heard you the way we've heard you in these press conferences.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:24Ryan Clark?

  Right? It's different. And Channing, before we really got started, mentioned respect. A lot of times, when you don't have a necessary level of respect for your opponent, it really ain't nothing to say. Right? Because you know, I'm supposed to go out here and win this fight, and if I win it, they gonna be like, oh, that's what Arrow was supposed to do. I remember y'all two met up one time and somebody was videoing it and they said, and you was like, nah, if I beat him, they gonna say he too small. Right? Then he shoots back at you. And then we get into the press conference and he talk about the big fish. And you like, hey, man, you can't get Moby Dick with a fish pole. When you think about Bud and some of the confidence that's coming across in the sense that he said you gonna be the 11th in a row if you get out of line.

• 28:09Ryan Clark?

  And you said, I lived my life out of line. But when you think about the confidence he's displayed and the way that you going back at him, do you feel like, as much as you think you can go into this fight and win, he feels the exact same way?

• 28:23Speaker 05

  Oh, for sure. I feel like the press conference, everything leading up and everything, we bringing greatness out of each other, just period. That's just, that's just what it is. You know, we just, we bringing that greatness out of us, so. And like you said, if I truly feel like somebody not on my level or they just pure garbage, like, I'm super dismissive of that person. Like, I'd be like, yeah, all right, whatever. I'm just gonna be like, I'm gonna, it's gonna be a one-sided ass whooping. Like, I'm just gonna, you know, say whatever I say and just leave it alone at that. Like, well, with him, it is definitely more excitement. I feel like, uh, you know, I've been off a year and a half, so I just feel like,

• 29:07Speaker 05

  Pow, he bringing excitement to my life.

• 29:13Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? I feel like this is the fight. Like for the past, you know, Floyd and Pacquiao, like box office, that's, I don't think nobody gonna beat that. But I feel like we talk about two fighters and, you know, their mentalities and how they are. And, you know, his mentality is kill. My mentality is kill. You know, we might retreat, but we gonna, our mentality again is to kill again as soon as we, we good. So I just feel like we just meant to clash together. It's just meant to happen. So I wasn't gonna let this fight go past because of egos or pride or, you know, somebody want this and we couldn't make it happen.

• 29:55Speaker 05

  So, you know, I feel like we just had to make it happen.

• 29:59Ryan Clark?

  I can't remember who you were talking about, Chan. And we were saying a guy had an opportunity to pick his fight. It might, it might have been Devin Haney and Lomachenko. And you asking why? I want to ask you that. You mentioned earlier, um, Leonard Hagler. There was Leonard Duran. We saw Hagler, Hearns. And a lot of the negativity that surrounded Floyd was that he didn't fight people when they wanted them to fight. You mentioned Floyd and Pacquiao, but Pacquiao wasn't what he was at, at his height when it happened. Just in this year, we've seen Ryan Garcia and Tank. We saw Devin Haney, Lomachenko. Now, from a boxing perspective, skill, talent level, killer instinct,

• 30:42Ryan Clark?

  this is the best fight that boxing can make. You could have gone up to junior middle. There's like Charlo and Zoo and Castano. There's those guys. But you stayed for this fight and didn't take other fights for this fight. And listening to you talking, you like, I, you sound like a dude that, and pause, you sound like a dude that met his wife. That like, this is the one I have to have. Why do you feel so strongly about fighting Bud Crawford?

• 31:12Speaker 05

  I feel like this is a legacy fight. I don't know if y'all ever watched Living Day Night.

• 31:16Speaker 06

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• 31:25Speaker 07

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• 31:33Speaker 06

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• 31:47Speaker 05

  They used to come on HBO's on YouTube. Y'all can look it up. But it had lived there nights. They had like Sugar Lillard and Tommy Hearns. They had the whole dude like trying to camp the press conferences leading up to the fight and everything, what happened after the fight. So, and I used to watch that as a kid all the time. And so I want that to be, you know, part of my history. I want somebody 20, 20 years, 30 years from now, 40 years from now, you know, watching a documentary and saying, man, I want to have a fight like Earl Spencer and Terrence Crawford, or, you know, I want to have that fight, or I want to do this just like Earl Spencer and Terrence Crawford did, just like how I'm talking about something

• 32:30Speaker 05

  that happened in the 80s, 70s, you know, I want, I want that to be, you know, my legacy where people, where kids talk about and watch it on YouTube, you know, whatever they got, social media, they got it 30, 40 years from now. It's gonna be something new. You know, they watch it and they get excited about it and they watch it before their amateur tournament and they get super excited about it and they want to have their same type of, you know, legacy defining a fight that, you know, I'm willing to have.

• 32:58Channing Crowder?

  I gotta ask you about this too, because it's funny talking about the underdog thing. And so when I saw you as underdog, I started doing research and listening to people talk and listen to all that. And they say you're bigger, you're stronger, you're Thomo, you punch harder.

• 33:15Channing Crowder?

  His IQ is higher. And I know you've heard that. Crawford's IQ is higher. What does that mean and how does it make you feel when you see all these analysts? And I don't know what that, I don't know if it tests your intelligence or what it is. What is boxing IQ? And how do you take it when there are people out there saying that your opponent's boxing IQ is higher than yours?

• 33:36Speaker 05

  I feel like they say his boxing IQ is higher because. He he he's more he's more talented, you know. He does different things. I'm not saying he's more skillful than me, but he's he's definitely talented. He use, you know, he uses talent like he move around the ring. He use angles, you know, he switches left to right. You know, he does different things, but when you look at me, you know, I can stand in the pocket. I show what I can box. You know, I show I've been show I show I can rough it up. I show I can hit, you know. I show I can use speed. I just shown a lot of things, so. People just just wanna say stuff at the end of the day. You know, they just wanna, oh, his boxing IQ.

• 34:19Speaker 05

  They say his boxing IQ is better just because just because he's a boxer. You know, with me, I consider my style passive aggressive. And and passive aggressive and like me, I'm not getting hit with crazy shots or, you know, taking crazy amounts of punishment just to land shots. Like, I be in the pocket with people, touching people up. And I'm and I'm not even getting hit like that again. You after the fight, my face not all month of swollen and bruised up. And I'm right there in the pocket, so. I tell them same people, what what type of IQ does that take to be right there in the pocket with somebody? And not get badly beat up like I'm badly beating somebody up or punishing somebody?

• 35:02Speaker 05

  Why I'm not getting punished the same way?

• 35:05Fred Taylor?

  You talked about legacy. You ever heard the Jay-Z song, uh, What More Can I Say?

• 35:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:10Fred Taylor?

  When he's talking Spaniards and then at the end he drops the mic? You mentioned legacy. What does this fight, cuz it made me think of that song. You talking about Bud, you know, not heavyweight, but big dogs.

• 35:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:22Fred Taylor?

  What does it do for the sport of boxing?

• 35:24Speaker 05

  I don't know what it do for sport of boxing really because boxing is more business savvy now than it was, you know, a long time ago like and I I credit Floyd to that. You know, Floyd really just changed, you know, changed boxing and made it more business wise and made it more. I'm gonna get my bang for my buck or, you know, if I fight somebody, I should get paid, you know. The most or to fight whoever I'm fighting. And he just, you know, so I don't think, I don't think it'll change much, but it definitely opened eyes. And I think it might light a fire on the people's bus to make these big fights happen.

• 36:08Speaker 05

  And then like I told people, I say, yeah, I gotta buy these, these pay-per-views. Like, yeah, I gotta show a lot, most of these fighters, a lot of these fighters, that there is a reward in taking risks. So, and if you don't buy these pay-per-views, you don't come out and watch these fights. Especially when they're super competitive fights or it's a chance that either fighter could lose. And you not coming out there, they gonna be like, man, I'm gonna get paid the same fighting Joe Blow. Then fighting him, so why would I fight, you know, somebody that's on my level when I can fight? This guy get paid the same. So, it's just, it's really all on the fans.

• 36:49Speaker 05

  Once they start really supporting and start, you know, buying these pay-per-views, especially when they're super ultra-competitive fights, then you gonna get these big fights because the guys in the suits gonna be like, we gotta make these fights happen because this gonna drop them out of money. Because all they know, all they know is numbers at the end of the day. That's all they care about. So, if, if the number's right, they gonna make a fight happen.

• 37:13Fred Taylor?

  Do we expect a mic drop at the end?

• 37:16Speaker 05

  Oh, after I beat him?

• 37:17Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 37:17Speaker 05

  Nah, I ain't dropping no mic. Nah, I'm all about what's next.

• 37:23Channing Crowder?

  E, I got it. I need one follow-up, fellas. This is my first one. I need one follow-up. Because I've heard you say, I'mma break, I'mma break this man mentally, physically, and spiritually. How do you do that to a person?

• 37:37Channing Crowder?

  Just hitting him? Like, like, I know you're punching the dude. Like, if you come hit me seven times, like, I'mma, I'mma be scared. But to break a motherfucker mentally, spiritually, and physically, that's a lot like you. That's taking a person's soul. And I saw you say that in front of this man, and he sat there and stared at you with that little ugly fro he got.

• 37:58Channing Crowder?

  And you know what I'm saying, like I saw y'all sitting down, I'm like, damn, like, what is that, what, what, how do you do that to a person?

• 38:07Speaker 05

  Man, it's just, it's just a certain look they give, like after like, I don't, like, it might be in the middle of rounds, it might be in the later rounds, but it's just a certain look that it is like a hopeless look on their face. And I feel like that's more, that's more gratifying, just knocking somebody out. Like, if you punishing somebody, if you punishing, a knockout, okay, he got knocked out, his body good. But if you punishing somebody, keep beating on him, keep beating on him, keep beating on him, it gets to a point where, you know, they might not come back the same. Or the, the next fight might not be the same because they do body into so much punishment.

• 38:49Speaker 05

  So, I feel like that when you see that hopeless look on their face, or they just, they don't look like how they looked before, before the bell run, the confidence. He like, he, he know that, man, like, this, this is about over, I'm gonna just keep fighting my heart out. And he just fighting more hard now, he ain't even fighting with his brains or, he ain't even listen to his coach because he's so tired or fatigued or hurt. You know, he's basically, he fighting with his, his brain to go, just not going to survival mode and going to flee mode. So, he basically just fighting off per instinct.

• 39:30Channing Crowder?

  Like I said, I got, well, I got two, three months of mortgage on you. Well, you get your ass knocked out now, I got three kids.

• 39:39Channing Crowder?

  But even, even saying that to you jokingly, but the pressure of it, I saw you with the Dallas Cowboys. I saw you hanging out with them and I, I've heard that, that the Cowboys are flying to the fight. Like, you got all the people coming. Does that add any more pressure to you? Like, knowing the people, knowing that we gonna be there, knowing that everybody's watching, knowing that there's NFL teams watching, knowing that there's just, there's celebrities all day that love you and come to watch this fight. Do you even think about that before the fight? Like you saying, playing video games and playing dominoes? Do you think about the world is now here? There are professional teams, there are everybody here. I don't want to stress you out now, but do you like? Does that do anything to you? And when does that turn off? That you know your homeboys, you know your friends, but when does that turn off? Well, I'm about, I'm about, I'm going out here to do what I do.

• 40:24Speaker 05

  I got, it's not really a ritual I do, but it's like, it's something I did earlier in my career. Um, so basically like I'm watching, I like watching like, let's say, kids from like Haiti or kids from these third world countries. And even Haiti, like they had to, they was eating mud pies just to fill their stomach up. Like it had no nutritional value at all. They just eating it just to get food. And you're just seeing kids from other countries and, and watching on TV. It, it gives me more of a, it's more of a confidence booster for me. Cause like, what am, what am I worried about?

• 41:07Speaker 05

  Like I'm about to make millions of dollars fighting somebody. And it's people out here that don't have food to eat, don't have water to drink, don't have a lot of stuff, you know, and don't have protection. You know, little girls, all the little boys and, and I'm worried about a fight. You know, so it, it kind of shift my whole mentality. When I watched those, when I watched those, those type of documentaries and it gets me focused and it's like, man, I really don't have nothing to be worried about. Like I'm here worried about a fight when people going through way more than, than I could even imagine.

• 41:50Speaker 05

  So it just, everything just go out the window and it's like, I'm blessed. And I had, like all the worries go away because what I done watched and what I seen.

• 42:02Channing Crowder?

  You know, how do you compare those things or eliminate the things you have been through?

• 42:10Ryan Clark?

  I have a friend and his saying is it could always be worse.

• 42:14Speaker 05

  Definitely.

• 42:14Ryan Clark?

  You know, and I've heard that, but that doesn't stop people from understanding their circumstances or feeling what they've been through. And Fred mentioned earlier how some of the fights have been delayed or pushed back, or whether it was accidents or detached retinas, all the things that you've been through. And now having your family and you growing closer to them, how do you detach that part of your life and just find gratefulness and appreciation in where you are now?

• 42:47Speaker 05

  Knowing what I got, like, I feel like the accidents and car crash, everything that happened to me, it gave me more satisfaction on what I have. And, you know, like you said, things could be worse. Things could always be worse. So for me, I'm like, man, I can still think, I can still talk. You know, I can still do what I love, you know, and my kids deserve better. And I'm out here quote unquote playing, like, you know, hanging out or trying to have fun and doing different things and I'm out here playing. And I, I got to a point where I really forgot, you know, what I was doing it for.

• 43:29Speaker 05

  And quote unquote, I kinda, I swerved off because I forgot what I was doing it for. I forgot I was doing it for my kids and my mom, my dad and everybody around me. And I got caught into the lifestyle quote unquote. And, and I feel like basically guys, he knocked on my door. I feel like that car crash was, was a knock. Like you said, one that come before destruction. So I feel like that car crash was basically a warning. It was basically knocking on my door like, hey, man, you better wake up. Quit playing. If you keep playing, I'm gonna come and get you. So, so you better lock in. So that's why I've been doing everything since.

• 44:10Speaker 05

  So I just feel like everything that happened to me, like you said, cause and effect. Even my eye injury, I think it was from, it was from my wreck. Because it's the same eye that was swollen and messed up, so.

• 44:24Speaker 05

  So like I said, everything could be worse. You know, I bounce back every time, you know. I just, I just gotta lock in, just stay focused and, and just finish this out. I feel like I got one to, you know, especially when I win. I got probably the best story in boxing, shoot, maybe sports, period. Just everything that been going on and then even the stuff that people don't know that didn't happen. People just see the list of beats and stuff that, that they, they come to the news, but the stuff they don't know that happens in the dark, they don't even know about that definitely didn't happen. So for me, it's just about staying focused, doing right.

• 45:06Speaker 05

  You know, I finally got a third chance at this and I gotta do it the right way. And basically do a hundred percent and leave no regrets, no nothing because I bounced back. Now it's time to make a success story. And when I get this fourth title, I feel like, you know, I can, I probably can retire, but I won't.

• 45:29Ryan Clark?

  Hey, that's the narrative, by the way, that you are the guy that has gone off the path and you're fighting a man that eats, sleeps and breathes boxing. That's in plenty of articles that when this fight was made, that that could be a determining factor in who wins this fight. How do you feel that people do now paint you? And one of them said, self-admitted, which you have here, that you've done things that have taken you away from the path you should be on. Do you feel like all those, how do you feel about hearing those things? And are all those things behind you enough where it's all about July 29th?

• 46:12Speaker 05

  Oh, it's all about July 29th. Like when people say different things, I get it. You know, like I rational, I get it, but it's all about July 29th. And I'm here for a reason and we wouldn't be fighting for undisputed without me. Cause I'm the guy that captured all three of those belts and basically made this fight happen. When he was trying to fight. Four or five years ago, that wouldn't have been a super fight. That would have been two good fighters fighting each other. Like, he wouldn't have fought Shawn Porter, he wouldn't have fought Kell Brook. He wouldn't have fought, basically, anybody. He got Victor Postal and Yorke's Gambler.

• 46:55Speaker 05

  So, you know, that would have just been two good fighters fighting each other. Now, it finally makes sense because we getting the lion's share of the money. We getting the most money that we would have got prior to that. Five years ago, we definitely wouldn't have got near enough money we get now. So, I feel like I'm the one that really led us to this point because I captured all the belts regardless of what happened. And now, we're here.

• 47:24Fred Taylor?

  Channing spoke about being in Vegas, you know, fighting for celebrities, the Cowboys. Now, RC spoke about family. You know, the last couple of fights, you've been home, you know, in front of family, friends, you know, maybe childhood, your teachers, could have been anybody. But there's a different type of excitement that goes with that, being at home. And now, you have to shift that and go to Vegas. Time change, time difference. You know, in terms of preparation and mindset, does, how does it affect your mindset having to go fight in Vegas?

• 47:55Speaker 05

  None of that stuff affected me. I'm different. My first world title was in Sheffield, England. And I had been off my longest layoff, like a year and some change, waiting on him to get better to fight him. So, my mentality, it don't matter where we fight it. It could be, it could be everywhere. It can be anywhere. It can be Omaha, Nebraska, for all I care. You know, for me, I'm all about taking something. So, I got one job, that's to put my hands on him, touch him up, and get him out of there, and get this belt, and go about my ways with my kids.

• 48:32Channing Crowder?

  And, and, bro, you're a good dude, but to RC's point.

• 48:38Channing Crowder?

  You've been painted as the villain. You're the guy that doesn't love boxing. You're the guy that parties and drives and gets in accidents. Are you, have you embraced that? Are you cool with that, with that narrative that you're, you're not the straight edge guy? Because that becomes the villain. That becomes the, the, the wild guy that just knows how to box. Are you cool with being you and some people really not liking you?

• 49:02Speaker 05

  Oh, oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, that, that's what come, that's what come with it. I feel like that, that's what makes a greater scenario. When you got the villain in the so-called.

• 49:14Channing Crowder?

  Got the hero.

• 49:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, so-called heroes.

• 49:17Channing Crowder?

  But everybody wants to be the hero though, RC.

• 49:20Speaker 05

  I don't, man, I don't.

• 49:21Channing Crowder?

  You don't want to be the hero?

• 49:22Speaker 05

  I don't care, man. It's all about my kids eating and staying in private school. And my mom and dad, my mom and dad wiggling their toes at night.

• 49:32Channing Crowder?

  Hey, that private school, a bitch.

• 49:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, like, I, I, I don't care about being a villain, superhero, whatever, whatever it takes, man. I just want to get the job done, get up out of there and go kill you and my family. So I'm not worried about being a villain. I can be whatever they want me to be. It's just me and him in the ring at the end of the day. Everything else shuts off and it's just me and him.

• 49:57Ryan Clark?

  You are a superstar. The reason, everything you said about why this fight is big and your part in it is 100% truth. Boxing is seeming to return to those glory days that you said you wanted to be a part of. Those legendary nights. Canelo signs a new deal with PBC. And there's already chatter. First fight, Charlo. At the end of that, they say, Errol Spence. Being a superstar as you are, is that something you're looking to be a part of in the future?

• 50:35Speaker 05

  It's something I definitely, I definitely consider with right now, I'm just, my 100% focused on Terrence Crawford, like it has been no talks about Canelo, talking about Canelo or nothing, like it's, it's been all Terrence Crawford. So even when they was talking about Keith Thurman and it's been all Terrence, my, my thing was, I mean, I want, I want Terrence, like, yeah, Canelo cool, like, that's a super fight, you know, that's great money, but my whole thing, Terrence Crawford, great money too, and this is more of a legacy fight for me, so it's, it's, it's more Terrence Crawford than Canelo, I'm not, I'm not worried about Canelo.

• 51:19Speaker 05

  My dog from Houston, hopefully Jamal get there fighting and, and wash his hands with him.

• 51:24Ryan Clark?

  How does July 29th end with your hand raised? What do you have to do to beat Bud Crawford?

• 51:34Speaker 05

  I just gotta be myself, I feel like I just gotta be myself, listen to my coach, and a lot of guys, when they getting big fights, they get out of character. They wanna do something different, or, or have a different style, or show something different. But, you know, I'm gonna be myself, keep doing what I've, I've been doing. Nobody stopped it yet, so if I gotta step to him, I'm definitely gonna step to him. Y'all already know how I fight, you know, box with him, I try to box with him, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to win, but I'm de, he, he's definitely, I feel, he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna whip to me.

• 52:20Speaker 05

  And I'm just gonna be in his face 24/7. So I feel like he definitely gonna come ready. I feel like he trained hard, he always focused, he's in shape. Like you said, boxing is his life, but I feel like I'm different. You know, I'm, I'm the apex predator, like, he's a predator too, but I feel I'm a bigger predator. So I'm definitely gonna, I'm definitely gonna get him, regardless of what he brings to the table, regardless of what he do, regardless of how mean he is. Coaches or whatever, you know, once we get in range, it's me, him, and the rest to stop the fight. That's all it is.

• 53:04Ryan Clark?

  Hey, man.

• 53:04Channing Crowder?

  He gonna, he gonna throw a thousand punches.

• 53:07Ryan Clark?

  Hey, man, we look, we look, we look forward to it and I'll say this to end. We got an opportunity to sit with you before Ugas, and it was a really good interview.

• 53:22Ryan Clark?

  He brings the best out of you. This interview was excellent. You were different. You were excited. You cheesed the entire time, no matter what you were talking about. And when you can find a dance partner that does this for you, it's the right call. I can't wait to see it, bro.

• 53:40Channing Crowder?

  Right.

• 53:41Speaker 05

  It's gonna be big and that's, that's the thing like with Ugas. Like, I, like, I overly knew what I was already gonna do, already gonna do. So it was kinda like, I'm doing the interview, like, you know, I'm just talking, but is, this fight is the first time I'm like excited about a fight. Like my, like, people even say like my energy and how I talk, like, everything is just different because I'm just, I'm just overly joyed for this fight because I feel like this is the fight where, you know, I show, I show people my, my, my character and

• 54:21Speaker 05

  how I talk and, and just show them everything different than before. It was just like, I was just going through the motions because I basically knew that what I was gonna do to him, so it really, it wasn't really much to me to say.

• 54:36Ryan Clark?

  Man, can't wait to see it, brother. I love it. Now we go, hey, now it's time to go talk to Bud.

• 54:42Channing Crowder?

  That's true.

• 54:43Fred Taylor?

  But that's crazy, right? Cause they said he eats, sleep boxing.

• 54:47Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 54:47Fred Taylor?

  I read somewhere in the rematch calls where he said he don't know if he'll take it if he lose, or when he lose, as you might think. Do you believe him?

• 54:55Speaker 05

  He said he won't take it?

• 54:56Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 54:57Speaker 05

  I mean, I, I just, I think he too, too competitive to it, for that, but it, it just depends on how bad I beat him. Like, if, if I beat the, beat the will out of him. He probably won't take it, but I think if he's, if he's close enough, he'll, he'll take a rematch. Right, right, wow.

• 55:18Channing Crowder?

  It's scary how calm y'all talk about taking a man's soul. Like, when I, when I go to fight people, like, I be low, low, low, like, this nigga gonna bite my lip. And you be like, yeah, I'mma just, uh, I'mma just, like, take everything out of him when he don't even believe in himself no more.

• 55:34Channing Crowder?

  Cause it's his lifestyle, yeah, his lifestyle.

• 55:36Speaker 05

  It's like going to the bathroom, it's like, I, man, I used to do it seven days a week, like, box. So, for me, it's like, it's normal to me, like, me watching box, or me watching somebody get knocked out, or blood, or eye gushing. Like, I be watching, you see people in my crib, be like, ugh, and all that, and I just be looking like, cause it's normal, I was like, damn.

• 55:58Channing Crowder?

  That, that was what happened to him if he ain't keep it right.

• 56:02Speaker 05

  Let me start explaining.

• 56:03Channing Crowder?

  Well, he could've had him if he'd went here. It's so calm, like, that, that's just scary.

• 56:07Ryan Clark?

  Who was that you knocked out with the, uh, the body shots? It was, it was early in the fight, dude, in the fight, too. You, you hit him, you went left?

• 56:16Speaker 05

  Ocampo?

• 56:17Ryan Clark?

  I think, yeah, you hit him, man.

• 56:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, Ocampo. Yeah, he really made mad, cause that was, that was in Frisco at the store, and I was real disappointed.

• 56:25Ryan Clark?

  Cause it was quick?

• 56:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was first round, and everybody came out to watch me fight, and this was like, one of my first big fights in Dallas. And he went down first round, I was pissed, I was like, man.

• 56:37Ryan Clark?

  It was the, it was the last left, though. Like, you could see it, it took, it took his whole soul, because even when he was on his knee, he thought about it, he was like, I'mma get up. And then he's like, nah, I ain't gonna get up.

• 56:47Channing Crowder?

  Does that feel better?

• 56:49Speaker 05

  What?

• 56:49Channing Crowder?

  Not gonna do that with a body shot. Cause it, it's like, you, the whole thing of, like, uh, okay, he going down, but you hit a nigga in the ribs, he, like, he, like, RC said, he taking knees up, he looking at it. Holding his side.

• 57:02Speaker 05

  With Tank D and Ryan, it was kinda, it was like, it was like, damn, like, it kinda more, like, demeaning, it was like, damn, like, he went down for a body shot.

• 57:35Speaker 08

  Every game day, you show up for your team. Now, it's your time.

• 57:40Speaker 09

  We go V.

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