SC EP:1293 Upon Arrival, It Was Deceased

Tonight, I'll be speaking with Jared, a guest from California whose first encounter with one of these creatures happened more than 30 years ago. Although the experience stayed with him for decades, he never expected it to become the beginning of something much bigger. After serving in the military, Jared leased a remote cabin in the middle of nowhere. What started as a quiet place to live quickly turned into something very different, as he began having repeated interactions with these creatures. Tonight, he shares what happened during the four years he lived there and the experiences that ultimately convinced him he wasn't alone. After the Paradise Fire destroyed his cabin, Jared became a truck driver. Then, in 2021, everything changed again when he struck and killed what he believes was a Sasquatch. Jared describes what he saw, the damage the impact caused to his truck, and what happened in the aftermath.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:03Speaker 00

  It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. It either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me.

• 0:24Speaker 00

  They don't make people that, that big.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  The way it moved.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  Almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  They were screaming at each other in gibberish.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet of what I saw bears.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  911, what are you reporting?

• 1:16Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ, you better. Jared, see ya.

• 1:19Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 1:20Speaker 03

  Get somebody out here.

• 1:22Speaker 02

  What's going on now, sir?

• 1:23Speaker 03

  That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know.

• 1:26Speaker 02

  Do you see him now, sir?

• 1:27Speaker 03

  Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-uh.

• 1:36Speaker 04

  Hi, this is Emily from New York and you're listening to the one and only Sasquatch Chronicles.

• 2:09Wes Germer?

  Welcome to the show. Tonight we'll be chatting with Jared. And Jared had this encounter well over 30 years ago and it was the first time he'd ever run into these creatures. After the military, he started to really look into what he had seen that day. He came across this piece of property in California where these creatures were at and he had interactions with them. After the Paradise fires, he lost the cabin and became a semi truck driver. Five years ago, he struck one of these creatures and killed it. He describes the damage to his semi and what happened afterwards.

• 2:51Wes Germer?

  If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Jared to the show. Jared, thanks for coming on.

• 3:16Speaker 06

  Thank you for having me.

• 3:17Wes Germer?

  And I know that you served our country and thank you for your service to our country.

• 3:23Speaker 06

  No worries, no worries.

• 3:25Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I appreciate it. And I want to walk into the incident with the cabin and the four years that you lived in this cabin and interacted with these creatures and then kind of the last incident with the semi truck. But if you would, would you start from the very beginning and tell us about the first time seeing one of these creatures?

• 3:47Speaker 06

  So many years ago, before the internet and social media and stuff like that.

• 3:53Speaker 06

  My son was about six months old and we had went camping in northern Idaho. And I went down this dead end road, it was about 30 miles long. And there was just one campground at the very end of it. And when I first had my, the first experience, like I said, this was before, you know, internet and, or not really before internet, but before it became too big. And no social media at that point. My son was real colicky and, and he just, he'd cry a lot. And when I would pick him up, he would stop crying and then I'd set him down and he'd start crying or, you know, he'd start. So we were at the end of this 30 mile road at the campground.

• 4:37Speaker 06

  And it was early in the season, nobody was up there except for us. I set up camp and I went, you know, started cooking and we had some burgers and I was cooking up bacon, throwing smells everywhere and we just kept, you know, we were having a good night and I would set my son down and he would start crying and then, but I didn't want to pick him up because I was cooking over the fire. And then every time I would stop, you know, stop flipping burgers or whatever, I'd pick him up and he'd stop. And that's what, you know, that's what happened through the whole night. Well, then later on that night, you know, we had a minivan back then. I got out and took a pee, right?

• 5:21Speaker 06

  And it was cold that night. It was like two o'clock in the morning and I got out and went to the back of the van and the van was running and the lights were on. And so I just leaned up against the van and started peeing and I hear a noise. And it was only about, you know, 15, 20 feet from me. And it wasn't a mean noise. It wasn't aggressive or anything like that. And I start looking off to the side, you know, it's, it's fairly dark. And then I see a figure standing at the, in the tree line.

• 5:55Speaker 06

  And I'm trying to pinpoint if I'm just tired or if I'm just what I'm seeing. And then it steps out of the tree line into the light threshold. And I'm, I'm not very tall. I'm about five, six. If I was to stand on my shoulders, this thing was as tall or taller than me.

• 6:24Speaker 06

  And I started to realize what I'm watching.

• 6:28Speaker 06

  And it makes a noise. It's not mean, it's not aggressive, it's, it's not a, um, not growling or anything like that. It's kind of like chuffing or, or, um, like, kind of like a little grunt noise. And I can tell that it was a female. Like I, you can just, you could just see, you could just tell that it was a female. And at that point, it clicked into my head that it's, back then, like I said, there's, there's no social media. So we didn't know what we were looking at or anything like that. And I just ran. I jumped in the seat, the front seat. I opened the door before, before the door was closed, my foot was on the brake, my ass was in the seat and I had put it in gear and I sped off.

• 7:14Speaker 06

  Well, at that point, my son was in the back with my, what my ex-wife. And we're, they're rolling around because I just sped out, like I just, just floored it and I was gone. Well, the door was open, so the dome light stayed on. And I'm just going as fast as possible. Well, she raises up and you know, she's startled and she's like, what the hell's going on?

• 7:41Speaker 06

  Well, she looks at me and she starts laughing because the steering wheel is all wet. Because when I took off running, I was still pissing and I pissed all over the steering wheel. So that became, that was the first, that was my first experience that they, that my family still laughs at me about because, you know, you know, that fight or flight, I was in the midstream and I just took off running.

• 8:05Wes Germer?

  So at this point, did you know what you were looking at?

• 8:09Speaker 06

  I didn't. I didn't know.

• 8:13Speaker 06

  Like I said, I, this was pre-social media and I had no clue what I was looking at. I just knew that this thing was really big. And I mean, just ginormous. I mean, it was, like I said, I'm five foot six and this thing, if I stood on my own shoulders, like it'd be over 11 foot tall. And that's how big this thing was. And it's about, it was like three wide of me. And I, I had no clue what this was because I was raised in the woods.

• 8:52Speaker 06

  And I'm not, I wasn't afraid of anything. I, you know, I, I know what grizzlies are. I know what black bears are. I know what's in the woods. And this thing was not that. That was, you know, like, but it wasn't aggressive. You know, after looking back, going through the scenario um in my head. The only thing that I can think of was because my son was crying. And we were throwing, you know, smells throughout the whole valley. And um I'm thinking that this female came up, heard my son crying and sat and watched

• 9:38Speaker 06

  for a while. I mean, my thought process goes like this. The way that I was handling with my son, the way that my son and I like interacted with each other when he was little, that um when his mother would try to pick him up, she, he would scream louder. And then I would go to pick him up and he'd stop. So I'm thinking the whole process that they were sitting there watching us. And that's why they, they, you know, at that point, there was no aggression because they watched me. So when she came to see or to, you know, to come and check on us or, you know, she was being curious or whatever, and she saw me.

• 10:19Speaker 06

  Like there was the, the noise that she made was not, um, there was no aggression at all. She's like, you could tell. She was just kinda looking at me and, and kinda communicating with me a little bit, but um it was, it was looking back at it. I mean, it was actually, it was really cool that there was no aggression, you know, because she just, she just kinda chuffed at me. But again, I didn't know what I was looking at. And I just took off running. It was a big animal. That was my first experience that I had. And then that kinda got me hooked.

• 10:58Speaker 06

  Then I didn't really go back into the woods for many years, probably about 15 years. Uh, went off to the military. Traveled around, you know, lived life. And then once I got out of the military, the social media and um you know, Bigfoot and the internet became a big thing and, and I uh I started getting back into it. I, you know, now that I know what I saw, uh, you know, everybody posting noises and everybody posting, you know, what, what they think that Bigfoot looks like and things like that. And I was like, that's what I saw. I know from then, that's what I saw. And uh I ended up moving to Northern California.

• 11:43Speaker 06

  And I had a friend that was in the military with me and he became a forest ranger. I had contacted him and I said, hey, you know, you've been out in the woods more than most people that I know. I said, what do you, what are your thoughts on these Sasquatch on Bigfoot? And he told me that they're not allowed to say anything publicly.

• 12:09Speaker 06

  Because they're a government entity. They can't have anything publicly that comes onto the Rangers and puts a bad name or tarnishes um the forest Rangers. He said, however, privately between you and I, because you're my friend, he goes, I can tell you where to go. So that's the place that I went. And they put me in contact with a, with a person that owned pretty much the entire valley. He had a cabin and I leased the cabin. And I had to find, I had to find basically these big feet, right? So um and how I did that was,

• 12:51Speaker 06

  all right, I'll, I'll walk you through the steps and the process, but um basically I had to figure out if they live there year round or if they migrated in. I had to figure out if they were migrating in, what time of season that they come in. And I did this, it took me, it took me two years to figure this part out. So what I found out is 180, 200 years ago, when they had the gold rush in 1849, right? Um, they didn't have all the grocery stores in the markets that we have today. So when, when the immigrants and the and the migrants, they would come, you know, come into the gold rush. Um, they brought all their seeds and all their food with them.

• 13:37Speaker 06

  So they planted their own crops. And after 180, 200 years, after they left, all these crops became wild. And just like covered the valleys. But I figured out when the first crop started to ripen and when it stopped, when the last crop came in and then went away. So I had found out that through what I had

• 14:07Speaker 06

  started to explore, started watching and learning that the first crop came in the second week of July, that high in the altitude, in the mountains. The second week in July and the last crop came in at uh, the last week in September. So from that timeframe, there's an overabundance of food. Wild food that, everything that you can eat or that you can imagine. It's berries, fruits, um, fruit trees, vegetables, wild, wild onions, wild potatoes, like it's just, there's such an abundance of food up there. And

• 14:50Speaker 06

  that's what they would come in and eat. I mean, they're omnivores, right? So um, they're opportunistic. So they, when they migrate in, they would migrate to this valley. And this valley in the second week of July would had just an abundance of food throughout the entire summer. So once I figured that out, then I knew when they were coming in. And I started to see signs of them. Then I started meeting some of the locals. You know, I, I tried to ask questions. Um, you know, have you had any experiences? Have you heard anything, things like that?

• 15:32Speaker 06

  Um, and after a while, it, it, it took, it took a while because most locals, when you live off in the mountains, they don't want to speak to you. You're, you're not from there. You know what I mean? Especially if you're going to come in and ask questions, things like that. Um, they're real standoffish. But over time, I, I gained their trust. They allowed me to go on their land, on their property. They started showing me things. They started showing me, you know, their, their signs, uh, like tree breaks and snaps and, and all their footprints and stuff like that. And I just, I just made this grid work over a few years just to know, to know which area that they were in.

• 16:18Speaker 06

  So I moved out there, I leased that cabin. And I started having experiences. I built a fairly good rapport with this, with this clan. Um, like I said, it's a, it was two adults and two adolescents. The, the male, the father, he was about 12, 13 feet tall. The, the female or the mother was, she was pretty similar, but a little shorter, not as tall, not as muscular. But she was probably about 11, maybe 12 feet. And um, the adolescents, one was about seven foot and the other one was about six foot.

• 17:04Speaker 06

  What I had started learning over this

• 17:07Speaker 06

  whole, you know, couple of years that I got to meet them was that 90% of the time when people see these Bigfoot or Sasquatch, they're only seeing the adolescents. They're only seeing children. Because the children are so curious. And they come down and then they'll, you know, they'll, they're the ones that come down and touch cars and they, they'll come down and touch your tent and come look in your window and, you know, stuff like that. But the parents are always there. They're always right outside this, the eye line, right inside the trees and they're always hiding, but they're watching their children. And if you do anything to the children, that's when the trouble starts. So when I first found them,

• 17:53Speaker 06

  So I started like, um, I, I, I started this gifting tree. Um, so I heard back then that there was, there were some people that, you know, they would take little trinkets or, or marbles or, you know, things like that. And they would set them up in such ways and then they'd come back the next day and they would be, the positions would be changed. Like if you set, you set a pack of marbles up and a star, it's going to come back and it's going to be in a straight line. Or, or if you set it up in a circle, you're going to come back and it's going to be put into a square or, you know, things like that. Um, so that's how it started. I, I started a gifting tree and I tried to do the marbles and, um,

• 18:36Speaker 06

  there was a few, you know, it, it wasn't, um, substantial for me. Like it wasn't, you know, I didn't know if there were squirrels getting on it or not. Um, but then, so then I started leaving like toys, like little plastic G I Joes, little plastic army men, and I'd come back and I'd, they, you know, I'd come back the next day or the day after and, um, they would bring me pretty shiny rocks. So then I tried to see if it was like, you know, crows, cause sometimes crows will do that in the mountains. Um, so I was trying to see what, what was happening. So I, I just kept changing. So then I started leaving like unwrapped candies.

• 19:18Speaker 06

  Uh, I tried, you know, I'd, you know, like those little caramel, those little caramel hard candies. So I'd unwrap them and I, and I'd leave one out there and then, um, I would get like, um, the next day I would go out and I'd get like a bird egg. The bird egg would, would appear where the candy was. Um, and then they'd do that, you know, a couple more times and then they'd bring me little berries and they put berries down. So they're smart enough to differentiate from like the sweetness. So then I started getting some minced meat and I'd unpackage it. I would season that with some pepper and salt, you know, stuff like that. And then I'd take it out and then started off with, I, like one pound, right? One pound package.

• 20:02Speaker 06

  And then I'd come back and then they would leave me like a bird or a squirrel. And then I left a bigger package of minced meat that was, that was seasoned. I put, you know, garlic and onion and all this stuff and seasoned it really nice. I didn't cook it. I just left it raw. Um, and then I'd go back and I would have a leg of deer. Like they would, they knew, they differentiated the flavoring and the little gifts that I would leave them and they would bring me their equivalent. If that makes any sense. So I started to build a rapport and I knew that they were hanging around. They started coming up to the cabin.

• 20:42Speaker 06

  And I use the word cabin loosely because it wasn't really, it wasn't really a cabin at all. It was just a, it was real thin old fiber board that somebody put up on four walls and then put sheet metal on top. So there was no insulation. There was the, the sheet walls or like the, you know, the gypsum board was so old and weathered that you could stick your finger through it. So I use the word cabin loosely. Um, so I set up a tent inside that cabin, cause it wasn't waterproof or anything like that. And it had one little window and they would come up to the cabin and put their hands on top of the,

• 21:24Speaker 06

  the roof and bend down and lean in and they would make noises. Like they would, they would talk. I don't know how to explain the way that they would talk. Um, it's a language for sure. But you didn't know what it was. Like you could tell that there was a, you could tell that there was a dialect. You could tell that they were communicating back and forth and that they were literally speaking. But you didn't know what they were saying. So for an example, I don't speak Russian or I don't speak like, you know, like Spanish or anything like that. So, but you know, what Spanish is.

• 22:08Speaker 06

  Like is even though you don't know how to speak Spanish, if you heard Spanish, you know what Spanish was. You know, uh, same thing, like I, I know, I know what Russian is, but I don't know how to speak it. And that was the same thing with them. Like I've never heard that type of language. I, I didn't know what it was, but you could tell that they were speaking. And they, we were, they would come around the cabin and they would talk to each other. And we just sat in there, my ex-wife and I, we'd sit in there and just listen. And they were never aggressive towards us at all. Like they were never aggressive.

• 22:49Speaker 06

  And then the time that really, really freaked us out was after, I think it was like the third year, the third year that we were up there. They came to the cabin and they said my name, really raspy, but they still said my name. And I think the reason for that is because, so during the days, cause I would take the whole summer off and go up there and live up there in the cabin. Um, so during the days, I would stay within earshot of my ex-wife. And I would go walk the perimeter and she would always call my name.

• 23:33Speaker 06

  And I think that that's where they, they were always in the woods right next to us. They were always watching us. And I think that that's where they learned my name. And at that point, my ex-wife was like, I'm not comfortable with this anymore.

• 23:49Speaker 06

  Um, because they're very, um, they were, like I said, they were, they were never aggressive towards us at all whatsoever. But it was, we met the adolescents. You know, the, the, we met them, like we, we knew them, like they were the curious ones. The parents, the parents were always in the tree line. They were watching, but they wouldn't come down.

• 24:14Speaker 06

  They, I mean, they were, they would never come in, but the parents would allow their, their children to come down and be curious.

• 24:22Wes Germer?

  This language that you were hearing, did it sound anything like the Sierra sounds?

• 24:28Speaker 06

  Absolutely. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. Um, now there was stuff that was mixed in with it. So those sounds, those sounds like, so those Sierra sounds, they sounded like they're yelling at each other from a, a, a distance, right? Like they were, you know, several hundred yards away from each other. So they were saying, you know, whatever they were communicating, communicating to each other, whatever they were saying, you could clearly hear that. Now with my case, what, what was going on was they were, they were talking in a much lower, um, not aggressive tone.

• 25:10Speaker 06

  I think that it was the children that was communicating with the parents or vice versa. Um, so there was no, there was no aggression in it. I think that the Sierra sounds, I think that was more aggression. Like they were communicating, but they were not, they were not on the happy side.

• 25:34Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I understand what you're trying to say. You had mentioned that they come down and they would kind of look in the windows. Would you kind of describe what you were seeing?

• 25:44Speaker 06

  They're hairy. The faces doesn't have a whole lot of hair on them. Um, it's like worn, it's worn leather, like it's real, like leathery, I guess. Thicker leathery, more like a, um, like a gorilla, I guess. But it's not, it, it's not like what people think where, where they have these big fangs and they're real mean looking, you know, like there's nothing like that. Like it's, um, they have a, like they look like a gorilla. I, it's, it's a mixture between, you know, a gorilla and a human. It's, um, you can tell, when you look into, when you look into some animals, their eyes are just dark.

• 26:28Speaker 06

  And they, it doesn't look like there's anything home. Like inside their, like you can look into, into an animal's eyes and some animals, you can tell that they are just, they're living, that there is things happening inside their brain. And some animals, you look into their eyes and they just look like, like they're an animal, right? Like they don't have a thought process or they're not trying to think about it. You know, it's, it's just a weird thing. And with these, um, Sasquatch, they were, they're intelligent. They're absolutely intelligent. It's like looking into a person's eyes. The adolescent, they look, uh, I don't know, not as weathered. If that makes any sense, just like people.

• 27:14Speaker 06

  Um, you know how you can tell if somebody, you know, if you got a 20-year-old against, you know, standing up next to a 50-year-old, you know what I mean? Like you can tell that the, the skin and the, um, they're not as weathered. They're, they're smoother, they're softer. I mean, I don't, I'm not real sure how old the adolescents were, but like, um, one was seven foot and the other one was, you know, six foot. They were kind of chunkier, I guess, but not, not, not overweight. They were, they were just chunkier. They were rounder. They were like softer. If that makes any sense, like they were, you could tell that they were the children. We had experiences, they came in at noon, right? Like in high noon, full daylight, they would come and see us.

• 28:00Speaker 06

  I mean, they, so the males, the males have a more pronounced, um, like facial structure. So, I mean, their eyebrows are, are thicker, uh, not really the eyebrows, but the, the bone, you know, the eyebrow bone. Um, they're thicker. They look, they look like a man. Their, their chins are more pronounced. Um, they're, you know, the, the, from, from just the ones that I've seen, they, um, their noses were wider, you know, things like that. They, they had more of a, um, more of a masculine structure to their face, I guess. Uh, the females were a little softer. The eyebrows were not as pronounced or the, the bones, I mean,

• 28:45Speaker 06

  they were not as pronounced. They didn't stand out as much. The chins and the, you know, the facial structure was a little more like elongated. There was a little softer, rounder, you know, like, um,

• 28:58Speaker 06

  They were, and that goes for the same thing with the children, like the, the children were softer. You could tell that they weren't. I don't know how to explain it, but like if you just go out some days and the people watch, you can tell the difference between a male and a female and, and children and, you know, teens and older teens and you can tell. And that's the way it is with them too. They had, um, but not all of them, they, they didn't look out of this clan that I, that I had, you know, got to know over the time. They weren't, they didn't all look the same. They weren't all identical. Like they each had their own, their own looks. So the father was big.

• 29:41Speaker 06

  Um, I didn't really get to see him very much. Uh, he was very standoffish. Uh, I got to see, I got to see the mother twice over the four years. Um, but I, my, most of my interactions were with the children.

• 29:57Wes Germer?

  Tell me about some of the interactions you had with the, uh, large female or the mother, as you call it.

• 30:04Speaker 06

  With the mother, that was the, the times that I saw her was when I had my dogs out. They don't like dogs. They do not like dogs at all whatsoever. And when I was, so I got big dogs. Um, I knew that I was going to be in the mountains and I wanted to, you know, have protection. Um, so I got two giant sized dogs. My dogs were a hundred and eighty, one, my female was a hundred and eighty pounds and my male was like two hundred pounds. So I had giant dogs. Now these dogs were never, um, afraid of anything. Like they, I got them for that purpose. They, they would bark and growl and you know, they were, they were protection dogs, basically.

• 30:47Speaker 06

  And the first time that I encountered the mother was one night. We knew that they were in the area and the dogs were scratching to go out, like not literally, but they were, you know, they go, went up to the door and they wanted to go out. They had went out and I'm only guessing, I didn't see it, but this is what happened. So we went out, we let the dogs out and the dogs instantly just took off running, like something was there. And you could hear, it sounded like a fricking elephant running through the trees. So the dogs saw, saw one and it took off through the trees and you heard yelling.

• 31:33Speaker 06

  Like they're kind of yelling. Um, and then after that you heard like a big roar, like an extremely loud roar. Then the dogs came back and they acted all weird. Well, that night, the mother came up to the cabin and we had put lights out, right? So it's not dark, you can see, we had took these sludge lights and pointed them outwards into the trees. So then we could make sure that they were coming in, that we would be able to see them. So, um, when they, when the mother came up to the cabin, came up to the window that night after, you know, the dogs took off. And I'm only guessing that they took off after the adolescent.

• 32:17Speaker 06

  Um, and then the mother yelled and then my dogs came back. But later on that night, she came to the cabin and she went into, or she bent down into the window. And the dogs went up to the window and started to do a low growl. Well, at that point,

• 32:37Speaker 06

  she growled in the window. And when she growled, it's, was something that it's unexplainable because the noise or the, the vibration or the low frequency, I guess, it went into you. Like you could feel it, like it struck fear into you. Like it was a, it was a very, I don't know how to explain it, like it was a very internal fear.

• 33:12Speaker 06

  And my dogs, like I said, my dogs weren't afraid of anything. And they turned around, they stopped growling and they turned around. And they came directly to me and sat down on the floor and started like shaking and convulsing, like shivering. And they faced away from, from the window. And she continued to growl. And I didn't know what to do because I've never heard, and I can't explain that noise. It, it's, it, it struck fear into you, like internally. The only way that I can describe it is the military uses these frequencies, right?

• 33:54Speaker 06

  That, um, well, I think civilian world, they started to use them, but they're, it's on a different frequency level. But you know how, you know how ambulances, when they, they hit their sirens, you can hear the sirens, but some people can't hear the, the frequency of the high pitch, right? So then they started to integrate the low frequency buzz. So then that would go instead of the, instead of the, you know, the, the sirens, they go wah, wah, wah, wah, that kind of thing. So on the lower level of the frequency, you can feel it. And that's what these things did. But it was on a different level that struck fear into you. So that was the first time that I met the mother.

• 34:37Speaker 06

  And this is the first time that I've ever seen my dogs terrified. Like they've seen mountain lions and they've seen bears and they've seen wolves and, and they, there was nothing that ever terrified them. This mama bigfoot struck some fear into them. And that was the first time that I experienced that and I didn't know what to do. I, I had no idea what to do and my ex-wife was sitting next to me and she, she goes, you want me to grab the gun? And I said, absolutely not. You know, then not, don't do it. We're just going to sit here, we're going to wait it out and we're going to see what's going on.

• 35:16Speaker 06

  So the second time that we saw her, um, she was from a distance, like she was probably about, I don't know, a hundred yards from us. So the babies, the adolescents, they came down and they were whooping and hollering and they were talking and they were whistling, sounding like birds. And you, you could see their mouths, like you knew that they were, they're the ones that were making the noises. So she just came down and she sat. She just watched, so you could see her, but it was, wasn't, I mean, not close, but you could tell she was there and you could tell that she was a female. Um, she's smaller than the male, she's smaller than the dad. Uh, but like her shape was different, right?

• 36:00Speaker 06

  So she's got a more feminine shape. You know, her, her waist is a little thicker. She had, you know, rounder hips, I guess. Um, she, obviously she had breasts. You can't see the breasts. You can see them, but it's not like she, they're, they're covered by hair. It's not like a, like a, like a human female. Like she, you can't really see skin.

• 36:31Speaker 06

  I mean, you could see skin on the hands or the palms. You know what I mean? Like on the bottoms of the fingertips and like towards the ends of the fingertips, but like, um, you could literally see that what's a male and what's a female, even though that they still have hair. You can tell just by the body shape. After all of my experiences, I would say that the, the females are more aggressive.

• 36:55Speaker 06

  Um, they're, they weren't mean. They didn't come down to mess with us, but they were definitely more on guard and, um, protective over their children. They, they were off, they go do their own things. They didn't hang around all the time. They would, you know, obviously they would go off and do their own things. Um, but they would pop back in every once in a while. The male adolescent, so the son, he saved us. He, he protected us and he saved us. So we went for a walk along the forest service road, the, the fire trails, the fire roads in California. And we were about four miles from the cabin.

• 37:39Speaker 06

  And it was, it was my wife and I and, and the dogs. And we were walking down the trails and a mountain lion jumped out. And I called the dogs back and they sat and this, the mountain lion was charging us, but, uh, she was like bluff charging us. So I called the dogs back and they sat down and I wanted to see how close she was getting or she wanted to, that she was going to get. Because the only reason that mountain lions will charge you or bluff charge you is if they have kittens, right? Otherwise you'll never know that they're up there. Like you would never see them. Like they're not going to come out and try and chase you or bluff charge you or anything like that.

• 38:22Speaker 06

  There's got to be kittens or cubs in the area for them to, to act like that. So, um, I yelled and she wasn't, she wasn't budging. She kept just doing this bluff charge. Uh, we started walking backwards, you know, I picked up rocks and I was throwing it and trying to scare her and you know, things like that. Um, and she just kept bluff charging. Well, when you're in the woods, I mean, I carry, I carry a sidearm for protection, but I'm not up there to shoot anything, right? Like I don't want to kill anything, I'm not a hunter. Um, so I didn't pull my sidearm, but I was yelling and I was backing up. I was going to give her her space because we got two big dogs.

• 39:06Speaker 06

  We weren't, we're not in full danger, you know what I mean? Even though that it's a mountain lion, we weren't in full danger. But she just kept bluff charging us, trying to push us out, which was fine. We were backing up slowly, we were, we were, we were leaving. Um, and then all of a sudden, there sounded like an elephant come running through the forest. Come right up through the forest, right onto the road, in between myself and where the mountain lion was. And this.

• 39:39Speaker 06

  Bigfoot bent over and stretched his arms out and yelled at the top of his lungs at that mountain lion. And the mountain lion took off running. And it turned around and looked at us. And chuffed and kind of made like a, I don't know, like a chuffing, like a head movement, kind of like it nodded at us, you know? Um, and then it walked back into the forest. So. These things were always around, like these, these Bigfoot were always around. They would follow us. They would, you know, and that, that day made me feel, um, made me feel good because that just meant that I had.

• 40:19Speaker 06

  Built. A good enough rapport with them. Like, we didn't become best friends or we could shake hands and, you know, stuff like that, but like. They were with us. They saw us in a predicament and they helped us.

• 40:32Speaker 06

  Like it was, it was a really good feeling to know that. You made that type of rapport and that these things were. That intelligent. Um. We've seen them. Mimic birds. We've watched them. They sit down by a tree. And they would kind of hold their hand up a little bit. Like their palm out and the fingers spread out. And they would whistle like a bird. And then a bird would come and. Land on their hand. Um, we've seen that. We've had rocks thrown at us. At, at first I, you know, it could have been the mother. I'm not real sure that it maybe you startled her. I'm not, um, cause she came in.

• 41:17Speaker 06

  About, you know, in the middle of the day, like noon, let's just say that's the sun was in the top of the sky and. She. Came in on all four. Like, I think that she was sneaking in. I think she was, she wasn't doing anything malicious, but I think that, um, I don't know why she was coming in at, honestly, we were outside and we were sitting in our little zero gravity chairs and leaned back and looking up at the top of the trees. And just relaxing and I see movement at, out of the side of my eye. And. She was on all four. And she had, but their arms are so long that their, her elbows were bent out.

• 41:57Speaker 06

  They weren't straight like, like her, her front legs weren't straight, like they were, or her front arms, they, they were bent out. Like she was. Like on all fours doing like a bear crawl. You know what I mean? Like, have you ever seen like a person in the military do a bear crawl? Like you bend your. I don't know. It's kind of weird, but. So she was kind of walking in and she got within. I would say 10 feet from the dogs. Uh, the dogs didn't even know she was there. Like they were sleeping. She, they, they didn't even know that she was there and she, she came in and I just happened to see.

• 42:31Speaker 06

  And I looked and I yelled at my wife and I said. They're here. And we both jumped up because we trained for this, right? Like it, um, just for emergency purposes, like we. We trained, like we went through different scenarios and what to do. So we had to trust each other a hundred percent, like, so if she would say something, then I would instantly react. Right? And the same thing with her, like, because these things, they would come in at any time or any moment. So if you need to say, like. They're over there. You don't look, you don't look to see and say, huh? You know what I mean? Like. You were instantly like, okay, gotta do this, gotta do this, gotta do this. When I yelled. And my wife ran to the truck.

• 43:17Speaker 06

  I jumped up out of the seat and she stood up. And when she stood up. Like she'd been caught, like, you know, she had startled her. And I don't know what she was doing, but it's, it startled her. So she like, she turned around and she took off running. Now. The underbrush was clear cut, so you could see probably about a hundred yards in. But how she ran was the fastest thing that I've ever seen. So she, like, she would take a bunch, like a few steps and go right by a tree and she would use the tree. And pull herself. And to, and then jump. And take several more steps and then grab another tree and pull with the other arm and just keep pulling and running at the same time.

• 44:03Speaker 06

  And she covered that hundred yards in. Just a few seconds. Like it was not, it was, she was fast. She was gone. And shortly after that, a couple of minutes after that, probably about, I don't know, 10 minutes after that. We, uh, we got a rock thrown into the center of our camp. The rock was wet. And it came over top of the trees. We stepped it off and it was a hard, that river was just on the other side of that clearing, which was about a hundred yards away. And. This was, we, we kept the rock, the, the rock was 22 pounds. And. When it landed, it was still wet. Which means that this.

• 44:47Speaker 06

  Bigfoot. Grabbed a rock that was 22 pounds and threw it above the tree line. Into our camp. A hundred yards. Now we tried to do some research and we were, you know, we, we looked up shot put, right? In the Olympics and the world record shot put throw was 72 yards. And that's a 13 pound ball. And this thing threw 22 pounds, a hundred yards.

• 45:20Speaker 06

  I mean. It's just this, that's massive. I mean, that's like, that's strong.

• 45:26Wes Germer?

  Yeah, that could have killed someone. And I know it's hard to like cram four years of experiences in an hour long show. But during this time that you were at the cabin, did you ever try and get a picture of them or video of them?

• 45:40Speaker 06

  We did, like, so. Speaking on, on the semi, when I, when I hit it with a semi, I, I had pictures. I had up close pictures. Um. But they were taken from me.

• 45:55Wes Germer?

  Yeah, we'll get to that in a moment. I mean, at the actual cabin. Did you try and get pictures of them or anything like that?

• 46:03Speaker 06

  Um, no, because the thing about that is like. Okay. They come in sporadically. And. How everything happens. Everything happens so. Uh, intensely and so fast. That you don't have time. To pull a camera out or to pull your phone out or to like, you know what I mean? Like you don't have, you could get, you could get one of those cameras that just stay on and loop. And loop and loop and loop and, and wait for something to happen, but then you're running on battery time and then you're re, you're replacing it. And you might not get. You might not get them coming in.

• 46:45Speaker 06

  For hours or for, you know, a day or like they might come in at, in nighttime or, or there's, there's, it's so, it's so sporadic when they come in. And when they do come in. You, everything happens so fast that you're in the moment. Watching it. You don't have time. Or even the, the thought process, I should say, that, um.

• 47:10Speaker 06

  To, to take a picture or to think about, oh, get my phone. You know what I mean? Or, or that kind of stuff, like. It was just the, um. So no, we didn't get videos. We didn't get, um, we didn't get any pictures. Um, we, we tried setting up trail cams, but our trail cams kept getting messed with. And I don't know why. I don't know how. I don't know if they can see the, the, see the IR light. I'm not sure if they're like, you know. Animals that can see that type of frequency or that, that, um, that light spectrum. I'm not real sure, but they. They would mess with their cameras. We'd put them 20 feet up and they'd still mess with them. Like I, so I don't know.

• 47:51Speaker 06

  Um, I don't know if they could see the IR. I don't know if they knew that the cameras were there or they could smell them because. Some people say that bears can smell the batteries. So bears sometimes mess with the, mess with. The trail cams and things like that. Um, so. I don't know if that's what they can do. I have no idea. I don't know if they can see. The IR or if they can, if they can smell the batteries or if they can smell the electronics. I have no idea. Because I don't know if you've ever experienced this, but you can actually smell electronics. You can smell those cameras. You can smell them with your own nose. So the next time, like, you know, for an example, if you ever go to like.

• 48:36Speaker 06

  An outdoor store or Camping World or anything like that, go to and get a, like a trail cam and open it up. And you can smell the electronics inside. With your own nose. So I would just imagine that they can smell it.

• 48:52Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I agree with you. I think that they can smell the electronics and the plastic and. You know, I know we're just kind of touching on. Some of the things that have happened over four years and I want to get to the semi incident. But you're no longer at the cabin. And for the audience, why, why are you no longer there?

• 49:12Speaker 06

  Uh, we got, we got burnt out. Um, there was a really big fire. Several years back, um, and it happened to be that, uh, Paradise Fire. We got burnt out of that valley. And. We would go back. We would, we went back several years after the fire and they, they never came back. Cause they would migrate in, they would migrate every year. And they just never came back for two years after. So we just figured that something had happened to them. Either they migrated on or you know, they perished in the fire. I'm not sure, but um, they never came back to the valley.

• 49:52Speaker 06

  So we just moved on. We went on with their life and um, and then I contacted um, another friend, you know, and a friend of mine that was in the ranger system and ranger station and um, he told me about another place. So then we came up here.

• 50:12Wes Germer?

  I hear you. I might have to have you back to hear more about what has happened since the cabin. I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? What do you think that they are?

• 50:24Speaker 06

  Um, you know, I can't answer that. I don't, I don't know. Um, I know that they are very intelligent. They're very intelligent. They have thought process. They're very, you can, from my experiences, they were never mean or aggressive. So I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't know what to call them. Like they're not, they're not human, but they're not completely wild. You know, they're not like a bear. They have, they're very caring uh, with their children. They take care of their children like a human would take care of your children. Um, they, they're obviously they're,

• 51:06Speaker 06

  they're mammals and they, they live in the wild and they migrate. They can communicate. I never saw like special powers or you know, things like that. Like, like some people think that maybe they're, you know, a little bit um, interdimensional or they're, or some people have ideas that they may be, you know, like a, an alien species or something. I don't know. But what I can tell you is that they are living and breathing and they are humanoid. Not exactly humans, but they have human traits.

• 51:46Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I would agree with you. Even a lot of their behavior is very human like, not exactly human, but it's hard to really describe them or put them in a box. Tell me about the semi incident. How many years later was this and what happened?

• 52:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, so um, 2021 is when I hit it. I was going through Idaho in January. I was driving and it was snowing out and uh, it was real early morning. And uh, um, the sun was the, you couldn't see the sun, but you could tell that it was getting light out because of the snowstorm, right? And then so everything was kind of real lit up and I come around kind of a bend and I saw this big foot run into the road.

• 52:41Speaker 06

  And there's nothing I could do. There's absolutely nothing that I could do. And I hit it directly in the center of my semi, like right in the hood. Um, and it bounced off. And it did some damage. Now, being a, being a driver, you have a certain protocol that you have to, you have to follow when you get into an accident. Number one, first of all, you have to call state patrol. Then you have to call your insurance. Then you call your dispatch. And then you wait. And while you're waiting, you take pictures for insurance.

• 53:22Speaker 06

  So I made my call to dispatch. I told them what happened. I told them what is there, what I hit. They were kind of chuckling at me and told me, oh, you know, are you sure it's not a bear? And I said, I said, well, I told them, I said, I'm looking at it right now. Um, on top of that, it's January. There's snow on the ground. Um, I'm looking at its hands and its feet and its face. And I can tell you that it's not a bear. I said, I said, this thing is about 12 feet. And then like the body was 12 feet, but the, the hands were spread out. So it was a bit, it was quite a bit longer.

• 54:04Speaker 06

  I would imagine that it was probably with a hand spread out and the arms extended up. I'm, I would imagine there was about 15 feet. It was just giant and it had really big hands. The hands were, oh boy, I don't know. Probably 12 to 14 inches long, right? I mean, they were just giant hands. Um, the face was kind of, this one was a lighter color than the other ones. So this one was more like a um, like a cinnamon, I guess, like a, it, it had like grizzly looking fur. Or not grizzly, but, but the coloration of a grizzly, right? You know what I'm talking about?

• 54:43Speaker 06

  Um, there's kind of some reddish blondish. They're about, it's the, the, the hair was probably, they're shaggy. They're like four inches. It's about four inches long. It doesn't look like hair or like bare fur where it's kind of together. This is more shaggy. Um, and the, the face is, um, the skin was, the skin's different, like the, the, the skin, the coloration on the skin was not as dark. Wasn't like a blacker skin. It was a um, I don't know, more of a tanish brown, but it was bloody, right? So it was like a, um, like I really did some damage to this thing.

• 55:27Speaker 06

  Like I hit it directly. It, it, it killed it. Um, so there was a, there was some, you know, there was blood everywhere and, and stuff like that. Um,

• 55:39Wes Germer?

  Was there any damage to the uh, semi?

• 55:43Speaker 06

  Well, not too much damage because I had a bull bar, like the big push guards. Because I'm, normally when I was driving, I was driving through um, all elk country, right? So we put these big bull bars on. So then if you hit a, you hit an elk, it's not going to do too much damage. So I mean, we bent the, like it, the, the bull bar was bent, but not enough to crush everything, right? We had a crack in the, in the radiator plastic, um, you know, things like that. But after all of that, I had taken pictures of, of the big foot. I'd taken pictures of the damage. I took pictures of all that kind of stuff. And when the, um, when the state patrol showed up, they,

• 56:29Speaker 06

  they showed up in force. Like they, normally if you have an accident and you call it in, they have to come out and you know, they write a report and things like that. But there was half a dozen, maybe more, six or seven squad cars that, that showed up and they all showed up all at once. They showed up with a paddy wagon, like a big box van. Um, and on the back of that box van, they had like a crane, you know, like a, not a big crane, but like a smaller crane. They came in ready, like they came in, like they've done this before and that they practiced this a hundred times. They all came in, went directly, they had four wheel drives. They went into the ditch, surrounded it.

• 57:11Speaker 06

  Um, they had one come up to me and block me and say, hey, you know, we had, they weren't going to fill out those reports and you know, these things. And they asked for my phone to see the pictures and they deleted all the pictures, um, things like that. However, I was on the phone this whole time with my sister. So she heard what was happening. She heard everything. I was actually on my way to see her to have dinner with her that day. So she knew everything that was happening. Like I was on the phone with her when I hit this. I was on the phone with her, like when the cops showed up. Um, all this was happening, right? And so after, after state patrol dismissed me,

• 57:56Speaker 06

  I had traveled on, I had went to my sister's house and we had dinner that night. And during dinner, we were sitting around the table and she was asking me, she goes, so what happened? What happened to that? And I was like, uh, I don't know. Let's find out. So I called state patrol and they, I put them on speakerphone. And I said, hey, you know, I'm so and so, this is what happened and you know, they brought up the report. And uh, dispatch, like she said, I'm only allowed to tell you that upon arrival, it was dead.

• 58:42Speaker 06

  So then I said, I said, no, I understand, but like, because I was there, I know, like I, I know, like it was, it was me. Like I'm the one that called in. She goes, I understand that, sir. And I said, can you give me more information? And she goes, I am only allowed to tell you upon arrival, it was dead.

• 59:04Speaker 06

  Or she said deceased, but you know, um, so then I was like, I was like, are okay. And I said, well, what's in the report? Cause I know what it was. And she goes, sir, I'm only allowed to tell you that upon arrival, it was deceased. Now my family's sitting there, we're on speakerphone and my sister's getting like, wait a minute, you know, she's like, she's like, no, this is a, this is a full report. Like what's going on? Like, can you tell us what it is? And the, the lady on the, on the dispatcher goes, I am only allowed to tell you upon arrival, it was deceased. And that was it. She goes, I'm gonna have to let you go now. And that was it.

• 59:49Speaker 06

  So after we hung up, my family goes, how come they can't say it? You know what I mean? Like, everybody's like, how come you can't say what, what it is? Like it's, um, I don't know. So that report is out there. It's, it's in the Idaho State Patrol, wherever they keep their documentation.

• 1:00:11Wes Germer?

  You know, I was telling you before we came on the air that I've had semi-drivers actually hit these things and kind of recount very similar stories. Do you think the state troopers that showed up were actually state troopers?

• 1:00:27Speaker 06

  Um, yeah, I do. I, you know, then they didn't look any different. There was, there wasn't like, they didn't have like any special stuff. You know, like they looked the part, if that makes sense. The only thing that, you know, the only thing that was any different is they showed up in force and they brought a paddy wagon, like with a crane. So they knew, like, you know what I mean? Like, um, they knew about this, like they knew, like, all right, we gotta go get this. And then when they surround, like they went into the ditch, right? Like they surrounded it with their four-wheel drives.

• 1:01:09Speaker 06

  Like they had practiced this. They didn't want anybody or passersby's or anything like that to see what was going on. They just practiced this and they had it down to a T. Like they came in, scooped it up and gone. Now, when I, when I came back, cause I had, the, the next day I had left my sister's and I was driving by the same route and the whole thing was completely cleaned up. It was gone completely. There was no blood. There was no nothing. Cause I remember the mile marker number. I remember where it was. I remember all of that stuff and everything was completely cleaned up, like just clean. Because there was snow, right? So you could see, like, it wasn't like, like a hidden spot.

• 1:01:55Speaker 06

  It was like, it was right there. Like I knew exactly where it was and I still know where it's at. And they, at that point, they completely cleaned the area. So, I mean, it could have been a different government entity. I don't know. But, um, they definitely looked a part of the state patrol.

• 1:02:13Wes Germer?

  Yeah. The reason why I ask is that doesn't sound like that's in the job description of state troopers. But I've heard similar accounts where people will say cops showed up and shut down the whole area, took people's phones, and then shortly after that, the place is scrubbed, which makes me think this probably isn't a normal animal and the way they shut up in force. I appreciate you sharing that account. You know, I'd like to talk to you more about the cabin and the four years that you were there. Like I said earlier, I mean, it's hard to like cram everything into an hour. I would love to have you back for a part two,

• 1:02:55Wes Germer?

  but I really appreciate you taking the time to come on and share it, Jared. I, I enjoyed chatting with you.

• 1:03:01Speaker 06

  Absolutely. I'm glad you have me.

• 1:03:03Wes Germer?

  Thanks so much. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is wes@ SasquatchChronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check out SasquatchChronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.