The Hilaria Hoax w Ira Madison III, Oscar Montoya, and Siobhan Tho (Fraud Friday)

Happy Fraud Fridays! This week we revisit our episode with comedians Ira Madison III, Oscar Montoya, AND Siobhan Thompson, where they discuss Spain’s Sweetheart Hilaria Baldwin. Stay schemin’. Chao! This was originally released on January 26th, 2021. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:43Laci Mosley?

  What is popping congregation? We're back with another installment of Scam Goddess. What if I do this every time? I get on y'all nerves, huh? I know. Um, guys, I am, I am three times as excited as I normally am, right? Um, so you're gonna get to say that three times this episode. So you know, if you mess up the first time, cool. The second time, alright. The third time, Joe Jackson, I'm getting a belt, okay? So you better get it right. Yell it at your radio, I will hear it, I will know. Guys, welcome to Scam Goddess. I should say that, right? My name is Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and this is another episode of the show. If you're new to the show, this is a show that talks about robberies, cons, frauds, and our favorite criminals with my favorite comedians. So let's get to it.

• 3:26Laci Mosley?

  My first guest, mm, guys, I'm so excited, yes. He is on Crooked Media's pop culture podcast, Keep It. You've heard of it, don't act like you haven't. Extremely talented writer with more credits than Tyler Perry has bad wigs. And he is currently writing a movie for Jennifer Hudson. Come on now, king. And if you watched the last season of You, honey, he in there. I just have to say it all the time because it's just the cutest cameo I've ever seen. Guys, I have Ira Madison III, come on. Hi.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 4:00Laci Mosley?

  How are you?

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Hi, diva.

• 4:02Laci Mosley?

  It's good to see you.

• 4:03Speaker 01

  I'm good. It's good to be back on this podcast.

• 4:06Laci Mosley?

  We love a returning guest.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Weren't we talking about sultans and shit before?

• 4:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah, he like was in Dubai and he like was real. He had a good Instagram. That was a good moment. That was a great moment for us. Um, we also talked about Viola Davis and, you know, I just want you to know, Viola, that was all Ira. I love you, queen.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  Oh, I was, I was doing my, I've been standing here with you, Troy. Or was I doing, or was I doing the How To Get Away With Murder?

• 4:35Laci Mosley?

  Yes, my client.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  My client.

• 4:39Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Wait, so Ira, you've already been on the show. I could ask you what your relationship with scams is, but I actually do already have like a scammy question that I just, Ira, please tell me.

• 4:51Laci Mosley?

  So Ira scammed for the election, honey. He scammed for the 2020 election. I just want you, can you please tell the listeners what happened on Twitter?

• 5:02Speaker 01

  Girl, not this.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Well, you know, before the election, I was bored and, um...

• 5:11Laci Mosley?

  You were bored?

• 5:11Speaker 01

  I, I guess, you know, I put, you know, just not a lot going on in the news, you know? Uh, I voted early, what was there to do? Um, and I decided to like pull a Jaboukie, you know? And so I, um...

• 5:25Laci Mosley?

  I love calling it that.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  I pretended to be Amy Coney Barrett and then was tweeting like, making like homophobic jokes, tweeting at Gwen Stefani like, let me officiate your wedding, girl. And then tweeted at Chris Pratt, see you at church this weekend.

• 5:43Laci Mosley?

  Stop.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Then I was suspended for like half a day, but I came back.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  You didn't learn your lesson.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  Chris, Chris Pratt followed.

• 5:51Laci Mosley?

  I love that.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  Still have not confirmed whether or not he thought I was Amy or whether he thought it was funny.

• 5:58Laci Mosley?

  That's important because if he followed Amy, then, girl.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  I know. Or maybe he was following me because he wanted to keep an eye out.

• 6:05Laci Mosley?

  Ooh.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  The church, the church might disappear me. But the week later, then, before the election, I was Beto O'Rourke and made him say that he would drop his nudes if Texas went blue.

• 6:21Laci Mosley?

  And when I tell you, Ira, when I saw that tweet, because Ira was verified on Twitter. Um, and when I saw that tweet, I was like, Beto. And then you were in the comments responding to people.

• 6:34Laci Mosley?

  And I saw one comment that you put, somebody was like, are you really gonna do this? Did they ask about your dick or something? And you were like, es muy grande.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  I responded, es grande.

• 6:44Laci Mosley?

  Because y'all know Beto loves to sprinkle his Spanish in, which we gonna get to the sprinkling of the Spanish in this episode because if you don't know.

• 6:50Speaker 01

  Don't we love white people who sprinkle in a little Espanol?

• 6:53Laci Mosley?

  I love it just for seasoning, un poco de pina, un poco de pina, mira. Okay? And so Ira's fully introduced, we're gonna get on to it. Guys, what did I say? This is the second time we're doing this. I am so excited for our guest. This guy is a hilarious comedian. I've known him for so many years. I adore him. He is an Afro-Latino king. He has so many podcasts, he could become your thoughts. Spanish aquí presenta, Inside the Disney Vault Podcast that Killed the Video Star. And you can hear even more of his illustrious, lovely, velveted voice on the animated series Bless the Hearts on Fox. Guys, we have Oscar Montoya. Yes, put sabor into it. Yes.

• 7:38Laci Mosley?

  But she knows, but see, Lacey knows, she's from Texas, right? So she's, you were raised on Salina, okay? Yes, Salinas, si los vienes, mira, you know, okay? Don't get me out here corona la flor. I will corona la flor all over this hoe.

• 7:55Laci Mosley?

  Oscar, how you doing? What's, have you had any scammy things happen to you recently? Not recently. I gave up my scammy ways. I used to be a scam artiste when I was a young child. Um, because when I was a kid, I was very small. I was like the smallest kid in my, uh, elementary school. And I realized the quickest, the easiest way to survive was to partner up with the biggest, baddest bully in school. Freak the mighty. So that's exactly what I did. And then what I started doing was, um, I started, you know, straight up godfathering the shit out of that, uh, elementary school. So I said to the kids, I was like, if you don't want to get beat up by Christian Solis, shout out to Christian Solis, wherever he is. A king. Um, you gotta give me your coloring books. And it got to a point where they would give me their coloring.

• 8:39Laci Mosley?

  I remember I had a Steven Silva.

• 8:43Speaker 06

  Gave me his Bugs Bunny Elmer Fudd coloring book and I was like,

• 8:49Speaker 06

  I'm gonna rip up the coloring book just to show my power. And that's exactly what I did. And I told Christian to beat him up anyway.

• 8:56Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 8:57Speaker 06

  And I was living my, mhm, I was living my dragon queen fantasy. And after that, I realized, you know, maybe I should stop because the power was getting to my head.

• 9:06Laci Mosley?

  You were getting drunk with it. You was getting a little tipsy.

• 9:08Speaker 06

  I was turning dark sided.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  A whole gangster. A whole gangster.

• 9:12Speaker 06

  Colombian gangster. Yeah, I know. It was bad.

• 9:15Laci Mosley?

  You come to me this day on my daughter's recess.

• 9:20Laci Mosley?

  It was doing a lot. And also like you got with him to avoid being bullied and then you immediately became the bully.

• 9:26Speaker 06

  Power corrupts. The moral of the story is that power corrupts.

• 9:29Laci Mosley?

  Don't we know it? Oh, right. And we're introducing, this is the third time, Joe Jackson, guys. If you don't get it this time, I'm hopping through the radio like the ring, like Ringisha. That's what I call her. Ring, I don't know her name. Did they ever say the girl name in the ring?

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Samara.

• 9:46Laci Mosley?

  Well, aniqua.

• 9:49Laci Mosley?

  Y'all know who I'm talking about. Alright, guys. Calling all Shoshone Sauce fanboys. I've got the hilarious queen who writes for Rick and Morty. You've seen her on air, Adam Ruins Everything, Broad City and so much more. She's from across the pond. For all my UK fans who are tired of me dragging y'all, here's your revenge. Guys, we have Siobhan Thompson.

• 10:15Speaker 00

  Hola, como estas? Soy Siobhan.

• 10:20Laci Mosley?

  I love the accent on top of the Spanish.

• 10:23Speaker 00

  Thank you. I was, I was trying to make it as English person who has taken one Spanish class as I could possibly do.

• 10:30Laci Mosley?

  I adore it. So are you, are, have you ever been scammed? Or you have any relationship with scams?

• 10:36Speaker 00

  Um, been scammed? I don't know, like light shit. I feel like I waited tables in New York for a long time, which is a very scammy job.

• 10:45Laci Mosley?

  So you know robbery, yeah.

• 10:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, you like straight up rob people when you're a waiter in New York. I feel like that's like, you have to lie on your resume to get one of those jobs. Because they need to see that you can lie to their faces and smile.

• 11:00Laci Mosley?

  That, I think that's really what it is because I noticed when I was telling the truth. I remember I went to bartender school because I knew I was gonna be an actress. So I was like, let me go to bartender store instead of going to Cancun with my friends. So I went and took my little bartender school class over spring break. Ira, why you looking at me like that?

• 11:15Speaker 01

  No, listen, I was a bartender in New York years ago. And I definitely overcharged people for drinks and, and kept the extra money. So I was fully scamming and thieving. Thieving, thieving while bartending at the Phantom of the Opera on Broadway.

• 11:37Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 11:40Laci Mosley?

  I'm fucked up though. In New York, Siobhan, I had an opportunity to do what Ira did and I didn't do it. I was working in the Hamptons and our, our main manager, so all those, a lot of the servers like sold cocaine. I can't say it where I work. So it would be like, people would be like, oh, you got your brand. They know, they, do you want some cocaine on the side?

• 12:00Laci Mosley?

  I didn't sell coke. I ain't move no weight, but I knew it was happening. So our manager was like a big cocaine. He would just disappear all the time. So I had learned the manager's codes. So then I would have to cash people out and clock them out and do all their tickets and all their, you know, do the register. And I didn't realize the whole time I could have been making tickets out of cash and taking the money. And I was like, damn. And they told me when I got in trouble for it, they're like, we don't know that. They were like Australian. I'm giving it too much away. They didn't know. They, they were like, we don't know, Lacey, you could have been stealing this whole time. You could have been turning things to cash and then taking the money out of the register. And I was like, I could have.

• 12:35Laci Mosley?

  Damn.

• 12:36Speaker 06

  They were feeding you ideas. They were like, do it.

• 12:38Speaker 00

  That is the rule though. The, the rule in those places is you can steal from the house. You can't steal from your colleagues. And that's the, truly the only stealing rule.

• 12:46Laci Mosley?

  Code to my feet.

• 12:47Speaker 00

  If you steal tips, like that's not okay.

• 12:50Laci Mosley?

  No, that's fucked up. That's fucked up.

• 12:51Speaker 00

  If you're stealing from the drawer, like good, who cares? Like, most people who own restaurants in New York aren't doing it to make money. They're doing it so they can bring their friends there and be like, I own a restaurant. Like, it's not for money, it's for clout. So fuck it.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  The extra money definitely, it went into the tip jar. So I was enriching my crew.

• 13:11Speaker 06

  Oh, so you were a Robin Hood.

• 13:13Speaker 01

  I was enriching my crew. I did have to quit after a while because I can't really count.

• 13:19Speaker 00

  That is an important part of the job.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  So when you overcharge though, and then you try to be like, oh, it's this much. I'm like, what?

• 13:27Laci Mosley?

  Every time you came to Ira, you got a different price. It's like, the same beer.

• 13:33Laci Mosley?

  I gave you a $50 bill. You gave me back $17. I got a beer.

• 13:41Laci Mosley?

  Oh gosh. Well, let's get into our first segment here. It's called what's hot in fraud. So this is where we'll either warn you about a scam that's hot on the streets. Or we'll list, get one of your listener letters and you know, see what kind of mess you got going on lately. It's been listener letters. Guys, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, [email protected]. Just make sure the bag is retired. We're not trying to fuck the scam up for you and yours.

• 14:03Laci Mosley?

  Anybody throw a name out for me for this person. Doesn't matter gender. It's a construct. Anybody got a name? Nobody got a name? Everybody's thinking so hard.

• 14:13Speaker 01

  Christine.

• 14:14Laci Mosley?

  Christine? Okay, Christine. I like that. Christine sound like she do her taxes. Okay.

• 14:20Laci Mosley?

  So Christine says, hi, Lacey. I know you don't read the intros, but I love you so much. Okay. Yeah. Thank you, girl. Okay. Oh, well you got to it quick. I usually don't read that because I feel weird like gas myself. I'm like, Lacey, you are so beautiful and smart and talented. It's weird. So, okay. It says, anyways, this is a scam my friend told me about when he worked at Hobby Lobby.

• 14:42Speaker 00

  Cancelled.

• 14:43Laci Mosley?

  Excuse me?

• 14:44Speaker 00

  Bad company. You should steal, you should steal from Hobby Lobby. I support that.

• 14:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, you've done, you've done nothing wrong there.

• 14:49Laci Mosley?

  They won't let the girls, they won't let the girls get abortions, right? Ain't that what they think?

• 14:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:54Laci Mosley?

  They say you can have any hobby you want, but not abortions.

• 14:58Speaker 00

  To be fair, I think if your, if your hobby is abortion, that's maybe taking it too far.

• 15:05Speaker 06

  It's not a hobby anymore. It's a passion project.

• 15:08Speaker 00

  That is a passion. That's a job.

• 15:10Speaker 01

  Is abortion.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  If your hobby is abortion, you don't need to work at Hobby Lobby. You have money.

• 15:17Laci Mosley?

  True, true. They're not cheap. They're not cheap. As people would like to think. Okay, so basically this older woman would create literally tons of fake identities, wigs, outfits and all, and write false checks and steal thousands of dollars of furniture almost twice a month. This worked because every time she disguised herself to write a check and all you have to do is show ID. They haven't caught her yet and apparently, and she's still doing it, but isn't that crazy? Is this the only source of income? Because damn, that bitch had a lot of time for that. Okay.

• 15:48Speaker 06

  They sell, they sell furniture at Hobby Lobby? Hold up.

• 15:51Laci Mosley?

  That was my first question.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:53Laci Mosley?

  They got chair. I thought they had like maybe a wicker chair, but they got, what is she moving out of there?

• 15:58Speaker 00

  If you're buying the chair, then what's the hobby?

• 16:02Speaker 00

  Are you supposed to build the chair?

• 16:04Speaker 06

  Sitting.

• 16:06Laci Mosley?

  Is what you knit in? No, you can make the chair cute. You could bedazzle libs.

• 16:12Speaker 06

  Who wants to sit on, who wants to sit on a bedazzled chair, Lacey?

• 16:16Laci Mosley?

  You don't want a rhinestone chair?

• 16:19Laci Mosley?

  That could be kinky. Okay, Christian Grey. Okay. Imagine showing up to a man house, he had a rhinestone chair, he started whipping it. I don't know. It sounds sexy to me.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  I am trying to look at the Hobby Lobby website and see where the furniture is.

• 16:37Laci Mosley?

  Because what are they selling? I didn't know they sold furniture.

• 16:41Speaker 01

  I guess there's home decor.

• 16:43Laci Mosley?

  She said furniture.

• 16:45Speaker 01

  The can, oh, they do have furniture. Okay. They have like velvet storage benches, cabinets, side tables, ottomans, side like pet beds.

• 16:57Laci Mosley?

  Ottomans.

• 17:00Speaker 01

  This is, this, this is not furniture you need to be stealing. Come on.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  I do feel like if you're like in a small town and Hobby Lobby is just like one of the three big box stores that you have. I guess that that makes sense.

• 17:15Laci Mosley?

  Because maybe Hobby Lobby is your Ikea.

• 17:17Speaker 00

  Right. Like there's nothing else around, but the biggest Hobby Lobby in the world. It's so huge. It's an unbelievably like, oh, this only happens in America.

• 17:28Laci Mosley?

  Right. And that makes sense.

• 17:29Speaker 00

  An entire city block that's just one store.

• 17:31Laci Mosley?

  Because in a small town.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  This is town though.

• 17:35Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. She don't.

• 17:36Speaker 00

  But it happens sometimes. Like you go out into the countryside and you're just driving around. There's nothing for miles. And then there's one weird strip mall that has like a CVS and a Hobby Lobby and a Best Buy.

• 17:47Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 17:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 17:47Laci Mosley?

  Okay, maybe. I just understand, I don't understand how they get out there.

• 17:50Speaker 06

  But also if it's a small town, this woman puts on like real, I mean, she goes through transformations. I'm talking about like Tyra Banks levels transformations, you know?

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Jennifer Garner, Alias.

• 18:03Speaker 06

  Hey, some peppermint realness right there. You know, shout out to that movie. No one watched Peppermint.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Not peppermint.

• 18:12Laci Mosley?

  I heard you said peppermint.

• 18:14Speaker 06

  Did any, well, how good was this like transformation though? These wigs and like, I'm just picturing her putting on that like glasses with the nose and the mustache on, you know, some like real.

• 18:25Speaker 01

  And twice a, twice a month. Who is not catching this? Who is that? Like this Hobby Lobby must have like six employees.

• 18:32Laci Mosley?

  True. But also like fuck that bitch. I mean, and by that bitch, I mean Hobby Lobby. Like if I work at Hobby Lobby, I don't give a fuck about the hobbies or the lobbies. If you come in, you can steal every day. You could throw the scarf around your neck and come back in and steal again. I don't care. I'd be like, alright, take your wicker basket and your ottoman.

• 18:52Laci Mosley?

  I mean, as far as scams go, I appreciate this. I don't know who can write, can you write checks in stores still?

• 18:59Speaker 06

  I assume that's a very small town thing to do still. Like they'll, they'll accept checks.

• 19:04Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  You ain't been behind, you ain't been behind some bitch writing a check at Gelson's because they still do it.

• 19:10Speaker 00

  Oh boy, the Gelson's crowd.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  I am like, I'm like next register.

• 19:16Laci Mosley?

  The Gelson's crowd is, you just don't ever know who you gonna see in there. It could be Jennifer Aniston. It could be a lady with seven cats and she brought them with her. And like, that's Gelson's.

• 19:27Speaker 00

  It's a vibe. It's a whole vibe at Gelson's.

• 19:29Laci Mosley?

  Alright guys, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back for historic old wings. Is that? I sound like Count Chocula.

• 19:37Speaker 06

  You can see you straight up to it.

• 19:40Laci Mosley?

  Scams.

• 19:49Speaker 02

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• 21:39Laci Mosley?

  And we are back, guys. Hola, ¿cómo estás? Yeah, okay, we're here. And this is Historic Hoodwings. This is where we will regale our guests with a historic hoodwink, crime, caper, or maybe just a charlatan that we adore. And today, we're talking about a charlatan.

• 22:05Speaker 06

  Charlatina.

• 22:06Laci Mosley?

  Charlatina.

• 22:07Speaker 06

  Well, she ain't Latina, okay?

• 22:09Laci Mosley?

  She's not Latina, but she's a charlatina, okay? Mira, escúchame. We're talking about Ilaria Baldwin. Ilaria Baldwin is an American podcaster, author, and yoga instructor. She married Alec Baldwin in 2012. She is a mom, podcaster, the co-owner of a chain yoga studio in New York, and has released an exercise DVD and wellness-focused libro. That's book for you guys. Let's speak Spanish. Thank you.

• 22:42Speaker 06

  Better than Duolingo.

• 22:44Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, okay, everybody got a book. I'm gonna have a book in a minute. I hope y'all gonna read my book? I ain't gonna write it.

• 22:49Speaker 01

  I'll read your book.

• 22:49Speaker 00

  I'm not gonna write a fucking book. God, it's so hard to write a book.

• 22:53Speaker 01

  You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna steal it. I'm gonna steal it.

• 22:55Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 22:55Laci Mosley?

  I want that for you. I want you to steal my book.

• 22:57Speaker 00

  Lacy, Mosey, please steal this book.

• 22:59Laci Mosley?

  Shabba, that's what I want. I want to lay on a chaise lounge with just like a brandy snifter and then there's just like a little writer in the corner typing my book. And I'm just saying things and he's just writing them down. I'm like, Megan, make sense. And that'll be my book. We'll see how it goes, guys.

• 23:15Speaker 00

  I do love a celebrity memoir. I especially love the chapter where they complain about writing. And then the chapter, like, six chapters later, where they're like, I couldn't do it without my nanny. I just couldn't do it without her. Like, every single one of these celebrity lady memoirs is like, you know, if I didn't have her, I don't know how I would be a parent. Like, okay, you don't have to, you don't have to say it out loud, though.

• 23:39Laci Mosley?

  I don't know how you normie moms do it.

• 23:43Laci Mosley?

  You Teske nine-to-five-y moms. I read Diane Keaton's memoir, and I really liked that one.

• 23:50Speaker 06

  I recommend Fran Drescher's memoir. That's my favorite.

• 23:53Laci Mosley?

  We all recommend a memoir right now. Quick, Sharon?

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Sally Fields.

• 23:57Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, Sally Fields.

• 23:58Speaker 00

  Oh, I love The Year of Yes, the Shonda Rhimes one.

• 24:03Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 24:04Laci Mosley?

  I love that she branded her, so it wasn't even like, it could be a novel, or it could be self-help, or it could be her memoir.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, that coffee table book.

• 24:16Speaker 06

  That's home.

• 24:17Laci Mosley?

  Listen, that's what I'm gonna do. I need to come up with a phrase for mine, like scam to your dreams.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  Didn't Shonda scam that book into a Peloton thing, too?

• 24:30Speaker 00

  No.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  Like, I think, I think there's Year of Yes on Peloton.

• 24:34Laci Mosley?

  Who's trying to hear somebody read to them while they working out? I don't want to be sweating and somebody's like, chapter four.

• 24:41Laci Mosley?

  I can't breathe.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  Just listening to commencement speech to be running.

• 24:45Laci Mosley?

  That feels like sociopathic behavior.

• 24:47Speaker 00

  It's just like commencement speech that she had already written, which, I respect it. I respect it. I don't want to write either.

• 24:54Laci Mosley?

  Now I just imagine every guy on LLC Twitter, like all the guys who say mindset all the time, like running while listening to 48 Laws of Power, and it terrifies me.

• 25:05Laci Mosley?

  So, over the last-

• 25:06Speaker 01

  It is roundtable discussions between Shonda and instructors for an eight-week journey.

• 25:12Laci Mosley?

  You're kidding?

• 25:12Speaker 06

  No.

• 25:13Speaker 01

  And you work out.

• 25:15Speaker 06

  No.

• 25:16Laci Mosley?

  No, Shonda.

• 25:18Speaker 06

  And there's, you, there's tons of people doing that at this moment.

• 25:24Laci Mosley?

  I hope not.

• 25:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 25:25Speaker 00

  That's so funny also that it's Peloton, because in the book, she's also like, I hate exercise. I found exercise that I like. It's Pilates. I don't like any other kind of exercise.

• 25:36Laci Mosley?

  Pilates is hard as fuck.

• 25:38Speaker 00

  It doesn't work for me.

• 25:39Laci Mosley?

  Is she doing Pilates where she's just stretching on the ground or she on one of the machines? Because that apparatus is a bitch.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  She's on one of the full machine. I think that she's on the full, like, it's pushing and pulling you.

• 25:47Laci Mosley?

  I saw that on Real Housewives, and I said, let me give it a try. And I said, oh, no, no, no, no. They started stretching me out. I was like, are you about a quarter a bitch? What's happening? Like, put your leg in here, put your arm in here. I'm like, oh, my God.

• 26:00Laci Mosley?

  So, we haven't even got started. So, over the, so, over the last couple of weeks, millions of people have been surprised to learn that Ilaria Baldwin, 36, and mother of five children, Cinco.

• 26:11Speaker 06

  She's 36 years old?

• 26:13Laci Mosley?

  Yes, she's like 20-something years younger than Alec Baldwin.

• 26:16Speaker 06

  No.

• 26:17Laci Mosley?

  It's a nasty age gap.

• 26:18Speaker 06

  She was married before, too, right?

• 26:19Laci Mosley?

  I don't know that. We can Google that. Can someone Google Marina can win somebody or call Google if she was married before? I don't know if she was married before. But we'll figure it out. So, she has five children with her husband, actor Alec Baldwin. She is not Spaniard, but an American who was born and raised in Boston, Boston, Massachusetts.

• 26:37Speaker 06

  Oh, that exotic place, yes. Of New England, I think.

• 26:40Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, Nueva England?

• 26:45Speaker 06

  Nueva Inglaterra?

• 26:47Laci Mosley?

  So fancy. And so, at least until 2009, she was known as Hillary Lynn Hayward Thomas.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  Hillary Lynn.

• 26:59Laci Mosley?

  Hillary Lynn. Anybody who has a Hillary Lynn. So, here's the video of her telling people how to pronounce Hillary for you guys. Ilaria Baldwin. One more time for the girls. Ilaria Baldwin. All right, great. Did we hear that?

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Ilaria. Ilaria. Ilaria.

• 27:18Laci Mosley?

  Ilaria Baldwin.

• 27:19Speaker 01

  Laia.

• 27:20Speaker 06

  This feels, this feels like an episode of The Electric Company.

• 27:26Laci Mosley?

  So, that's how she pronounces Hillary. I didn't know that Hillary was Ilaria. But all you Hillarys out there, you guys, y'all got some seasoning now, okay? Ilaria Duff.

• 27:34Speaker 06

  It's so weird, because it's like, there's no Spanish word for Hillary. Like, I don't know what, she just invent, that's, she copyrighted that name.

• 27:43Laci Mosley?

  What we got? Who else we got? Ilaria Simpson. Who are the other Ilarias out there? I said Ilaria Duff.

• 27:50Speaker 06

  Ilaria Clinton.

• 27:51Laci Mosley?

  Ilaria Clinton.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  Ilaria Banks?

• 27:55Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Ilaria Banks.

• 27:59Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 28:00Laci Mosley?

  That's my favorite Ilaria, right there. This is how it started. Empiezo. Okay, one day Hillary Ilaria was speaking in Spanish to an Argentinian man and his girlfriend, who were seated at a table next to the one where Mr. Baldwin was seated. So, basically, they had a restaurant. She's talking to her homeboys at the table that's next to the table where Alec is.

• 28:22Speaker 06

  This feels like a setup.

• 28:23Laci Mosley?

  An earshot.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 28:26Laci Mosley?

  So then she walked by him, and he called out to her,

• 28:30Speaker 06

  Bold.

• 28:31Laci Mosley?

  Who are you? I must know you. I must know you. She recalled Alec Baldwin.

• 28:38Speaker 06

  That sounds like Alec Baldwin doing an impression of Donald Trump.

• 28:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I don't know how to do Alec Baldwin. How to do Alec Baldwin. I heard you look like you might know.

• 28:50Speaker 01

  Who are you?

• 28:54Laci Mosley?

  That was better. Yeah, that's way better. That gives me 30 Rock. Okay, that's good.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Listen, Oscar is right. Why does this sound like some days of our lives set up? She talked to her homegirl who knew Alec Baldwin comes to this restaurant every other day. She was like, we coming through. I'm bagging up Baldwin.

• 29:13Speaker 06

  She researched it. She said it. I mean, she planted ideas into Alex's head.

• 29:17Speaker 00

  To make sure that she would be sitting right next to him.

• 29:20Laci Mosley?

  And you guys are creeping up on my theory, which is that she became a Spaniard so that she could trap Alex. Because she was just a basic girl from Boston.

• 29:30Speaker 00

  This is what's so fun about this scam is that really the only person that got scammed was Alec Baldwin, who is very funny to scam. He's still, he's fully, he's fully in.

• 29:42Laci Mosley?

  What can he do?

• 29:44Speaker 00

  I hope we have the video of him.

• 29:45Laci Mosley?

  We do.

• 29:47Speaker 00

  Oh, great.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  I would also buy, and maybe this is like too rom com set up, but, and maybe it's giving her too much credit, but I would also buy that she was just with some Argentinian friends, just talking in Spanish with them, right? Imagine. And then she walks by, Alec Baldwin's like, I must know you Latina woman. And she's like, well, damn, I want to fuck Alec Baldwin. And she's like, buenos dias.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  And then she gotta keep it going.

• 30:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a bit, it's a bit that went out of control.

• 30:23Speaker 06

  This is very much, this is a, yeah, this is a premise of a sitcom.

• 30:27Speaker 00

  To tell everybody that I am actually from Wisconsin.

• 30:30Speaker 01

  I just say this because living in LA, living in LA, I've definitely yes and did.

• 30:36Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 30:37Speaker 01

  Lied to some people at a bar. So there's someone out in New York who definitely thinks that I was a producer on True Blood for four seasons.

• 30:48Laci Mosley?

  Listen, there's someone at Avis Rent A Car right now in Texas who thinks that I'm British. Cause I wanted an upgrade. And when you're black and British, people are like, oh, she's not like the regular blacks. She's a fancy black. Like, they think you're closer to the monarchies. I'm like, no, I just really need like a Jeep or something like that. But I really don't want to pay like more than like, what's American dollars called again? Como se dice, American dollars? American dollars?

• 31:16Speaker 06

  Not American pounds or American euros, American dollars.

• 31:22Laci Mosley?

  Will you call your quid? Will you call your quid out here? What's a pin? How many pins for the car?

• 31:28Speaker 01

  I really don't want to drive a Toyota.

• 31:31Laci Mosley?

  Also, I want to be successful enough that I can just have someone walk past me and be like, who are you? I need to know you. And then them come.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Girl, people do that to you. You know, people do that to you.

• 31:46Laci Mosley?

  No, they don't. I've been in my house for a year.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  I'm talking about, I'm talking about before this.

• 31:51Laci Mosley?

  Okay, yeah, they was doing it a little bit, but I will say, I've been, I've been single for so long that last night my mama sent me a text that said, oh, and by the way, throw all your drawers away and buy some new ones, because that brings good juju. She told me to throw all my panties away for no reason, no reason at all.

• 32:07Speaker 00

  Just out of the blue.

• 32:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So, you know, maybe I could do this when we're out. So let's get to it. So he says,

• 32:15Laci Mosley?

  so she said that that was the first thing that she had ever heard from him and that she told Alec Baldwin, Elaria. She said that she told Alec Baldwin, after he said his, who are you? I need to know you. She says immediately, apparently, I'm from Boston. That's the first thing I said, and that's always been my narrative.

• 32:34Speaker 06

  You can't, if someone asks you, who are you? The response is not, I am from Boston.

• 32:40Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it is.

• 32:42Speaker 00

  If you're from Boston, it is.

• 32:43Laci Mosley?

  Y'all like have no sense.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  That is who you are. That is who you are.

• 32:46Laci Mosley?

  Boston is a personality.

• 32:50Laci Mosley?

  So she maintains in New York Times that she's from Boston, right? Can we play a clip, Marina? There's lots of, there's lots of receipts in this episode. So this is Alec Baldwin on Howard Stern.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  My wife's on the phone with her hairdresser or her friend. She's like, really? Okay, I can't wait to see you. That's going to be great. Fantastic. What time? 12 o'clock? My wife is from Spain.

• 33:13Speaker 01

  And blah, blah, blah. I don't mean to be racist when I put that accent on your brother, right?

• 33:18Laci Mosley?

  Stop this. Stop this, please. What? So she said, I'm from Boston was the first thing she told Alec Baldwin. He's on late night shows doing a Spanish accent.

• 33:31Speaker 00

  What is going on? Did she do that at home?

• 33:36Laci Mosley?

  She has to keep it up. I think Ira's, the theory Ira has is right, that she did it once and then she had to keep it up.

• 33:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:44Laci Mosley?

  She was trapped.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  I buy her as a scammer who got in over her head. I just buy it. And I find that he was like really excited by it, because like Alec Baldwin was too excited to be doing a fucking Spanish accent on TV and in these podcasts. But then able to be like, oh, I'm impersonating my wife who is from Spain, so she's white. It's not racist.

• 34:12Speaker 00

  It's not racist.

• 34:14Laci Mosley?

  And he, yeah, you're right. And he said it immediately after, which means that he was cognizant of the choice being kind of racist. But he was also like, but I really need to do it. He was like, I just apologized afterwards.

• 34:25Speaker 00

  Nobody in her family said anything?

• 34:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 34:28Speaker 00

  Like if I, if I came to my family and said, you're meeting my boyfriend, I've been lying this whole time and been doing like a French accent, because he thinks that I'm French. First of all, I would never live it down. Like every time anybody in my family saw me, they would just absolutely rip the shit out of me. But then they would not, why would anybody go along with a lie? She got married to him and nobody was like, we're not Spanish.

• 34:55Laci Mosley?

  Your family wouldn't hold you down to that lie?

• 34:58Speaker 00

  No. They would, no, my family would sell me out immediately if I was doing that kind of scam. Absolutely not.

• 35:06Laci Mosley?

  Siobhan, that's so upsetting, because as the resident white woman here, I really thought that your family would hold it down and you would come home and they'd be like, we've got Spanish rice and we've got.

• 35:18Speaker 00

  But I think if they want to do it, that's how they would do it in a way that's like, I'm supporting you. But so obviously fake and laughing the whole time that it was obvious that they were doing it.

• 35:33Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 35:33Speaker 00

  And then it would break within like three minutes.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  He's also the, he's also the main breadwinner, ain't he, in the Baldwin clan?

• 35:41Laci Mosley?

  Yes, he is. They're all on the teat. That's why Haley, Haley Bieber? Yeah, she went and got her Bieber, because she was not, that ain't her daddy. She didn't get the rich daddy. So she was like, let me go ahead, give me a Bieber.

• 35:55Speaker 01

  But she got the better daddy.

• 35:57Laci Mosley?

  Did she not?

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Wait, does she, isn't her dad Billy?

• 36:00Laci Mosley?

  I thought her dad was Seth or whatever that one with the S to start with.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Oh, is it Steven? If it's Steven, if it's Steven, the racist one, then never mind. But Billy, Billy's, Billy's the one who was on Gossip Girl. We stan him.

• 36:14Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Billy Baldwin. And also he got the best, I like that Billy Baldwin. Mm, sounds sexy. Oh, but while, while we're here, a quick pullover, just to say, just so you guys know out there, there's a difference between race and nationality. So you can be Latino, and Oscar, you can obviously speak to this more than I can, but you can be Latino and you can be white, you can be indigenous, you can be black. And people don't know that. So there was a lot of girls on Twitter who were like, you're appropriating the Gina Rodriguezes. And it was like, you don't know what you're talking about. Like, this is.

• 36:47Speaker 06

  Yeah. What I will say is that a Spanish person from Spain is not Latinx. They are Hispanic, because they speak Spanish, that's a prominent language, but they are not from Latin American countries. As a matter of fact, Spaniards are white people and, I will come correct, colonizers. So they are still white, white, white, white. So, you know, she's co-opting another version of white culture. You know, albeit with a little more saxon, but still white.

• 37:18Speaker 00

  Yes. It's spicy white. Like if you're a wasp from Boston, which is the most like vanilla of white that you can be, even as a British person, I'm like, wow, those people from Massachusetts are really white. Like.

• 37:31Laci Mosley?

  Damn, burn.

• 37:34Speaker 00

  Like, you go to Spain on vacation and they're like, oh, they're nice to each other and they, they, they like hug each other and dance. That seems like nice and exciting.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  My favorite colonizer is Pedro Almodovar.

• 37:47Speaker 06

  Ah, yes, yes, yes.

• 37:49Speaker 01

  Love him.

• 37:50Speaker 06

  He, yeah, he's great. He's great. Yeah, but, but Spaniards are just people, like mayonnaise people with a little paprika in them. That's, that's all it is, right?

• 38:01Speaker 01

  When I tell you, the first time I realized that that is true, it was years ago, probably like, like colleges, like when I was living in New York or something after college and I like, truly that first time that I found out like people from Spain are just white.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  I was like, oh.

• 38:21Speaker 06

  No, for real, because like in the nineties, like everybody was like, oh, thank God for Latinx culture. We have Antonio Anderas. And it's like, he's still white, y'all. Like he's from Spain.

• 38:34Speaker 00

  And Elly Cruz is not Hispanic.

• 38:36Speaker 06

  Exactly, yes.

• 38:37Speaker 00

  I mean, she's Hispanic, but not Latinx.

• 38:39Speaker 06

  She's not Latinx.

• 38:40Laci Mosley?

  But if we're hopping into the white gaze, we can't deny that, you know, like more like European whites, like from the UK and from America, kind of look at whites from Spain is like still POC or still lesser than, but only in the white man's eyes. I mean, when they are in Spain, they are the white man. So it's, it's important to make that distinguished, because a lot of people were trying to Rachel Dolezal, Elaria, and I was like, it's not the same thing. Rachel hopped up in Negro spaces and said, get out of here, niggers, scam. And she took their jobs.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  That's why this is funny. That's why this is funny.

• 39:11Speaker 00

  Straight up to black people's jobs.

• 39:13Speaker 01

  She, she's just impersonating a white woman.

• 39:16Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 39:16Speaker 01

  And, and it's not like she is stealing jobs from like Latinx people. Like they, they don't want to marry Alec Baldwin?

• 39:26Laci Mosley?

  That is a job too.

• 39:27Speaker 00

  They don't want to run a yoga wellness center that.

• 39:30Speaker 06

  That's just white as hell. It's like, yeah.

• 39:32Speaker 00

  Just sells like powders. That's what wellness is, right? Just sells a variety of powders.

• 39:37Laci Mosley?

  That's wellness, pretty much. So Elaria first visited Spain with her parents when she was a baby. She said she went at least like yearly thereafter. She declined to explain in detail how frequently they traveled, right? So here's a video of Elaria saying that she is from España, España.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  España.

• 39:55Laci Mosley?

  So this is a podcast that she did.

• 39:57Speaker 00

  The dresser and, and one chair.

• 40:00Speaker 03

  No, no, no. I moved here when I was 18 to go to NYU.

• 40:02Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 40:03Speaker 03

  And my family lives in Spain. They live in my yard.

• 40:06Speaker 00

  Okay. So yeah, that would make sense. You wouldn't know pop culture.

• 40:10Laci Mosley?

  So we can stop there.

• 40:12Speaker 01

  That is my fave.

• 40:15Laci Mosley?

  Why is she saying that she doesn't know any pop culture? It's because before the clip that we have, because we have so much to get through, she said that when she met Alec Baldwin, she did not know who he was.

• 40:25Speaker 06

  Oh, get out, come on.

• 40:28Laci Mosley?

  She said, I did not have a television in España. I did not watch the SN, the L, the SNL, I did, I've never seen it.

• 40:34Speaker 00

  But people in Spain know who Alec Baldwin is.

• 40:37Laci Mosley?

  No, they don't.

• 40:41Laci Mosley?

  No, they do not.

• 40:42Speaker 00

  They have television. It's a, it's a first world country.

• 40:48Speaker 06

  You can't tell me she didn't.

• 40:49Speaker 01

  Started a telenovela for eight years in Madrid.

• 40:51Speaker 06

  You can't tell me she didn't see fucking Beetlejuice and was like, that shit is international, okay? That has international appeal and reach.

• 40:59Laci Mosley?

  She never has seen Con sus ojos. She never has seen her eyes.

• 41:03Speaker 01

  Lacey, Lacey, though, my favorite, my favorite, that is, that is actually one of my favorite things that came out about Ilaria.

• 41:11Laci Mosley?

  Really?

• 41:12Speaker 01

  That interview, that, well, because that interview you just played, they ask her where she's from, and she says, my parents live in Mallorca.

• 41:25Speaker 06

  Mallorca.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, Mallorca. Uh, so she completely sidesteps the question of where are you from?

• 41:30Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  And she says, my parents currently live.

• 41:36Laci Mosley?

  Did she lie? Did she lie?

• 41:38Speaker 06

  She didn't lie. It's a half truth.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  Did she motherfucking lie?

• 41:41Laci Mosley?

  Did she lie? Lies detected. No. Lies where? Straight up, stiff where? Lies where? That's for the young girls on the TikTok.

• 41:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, so you're absolutely right. She was kind of telling these half truths. Also, her family's not from Spain. They recently moved to Mallorca. So she's acting like they've lived there and like they're from there, and I love that. I love this.

• 42:04Speaker 06

  So it's a family business of like cultural co-opting, yes?

• 42:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Well, her family hasn't made any, um, they haven't lied and said that they were Hispanic. Or, so I don't, you know, I guess they probably had to, to some degree, be like, yeah, yeah, this is what we about, because Alec obviously comes home. My parents would have did that. If I came home with a rich ass man and I was just, you know, you know what I mean? If we was all gonna come up, my parents would have been like, okay, our favorite flower is poncetia.

• 42:32Laci Mosley?

  We would have did it. So on The Ellen Show, Hilary or Laria revealed that Alec waited six weeks before they kissed. Do you guys know that he shook my hand for six weeks and we didn't kiss that long after we met?

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, because she was, I, she was 26, I think. She was 26 years old and he was like 50?

• 42:57Speaker 01

  I don't know. I think that is why.

• 42:59Speaker 06

  That's a straight up lie.

• 43:00Laci Mosley?

  No, you guys are whores. You guys are whores.

• 43:04Speaker 01

  Shaking hands, okay?

• 43:06Laci Mosley?

  You guys are whores. I never have sex and I never kiss.

• 43:08Speaker 06

  Listen, not even a kiss on the cheek. Listen, if she's being honest to Spanish customs, you gotta kiss, you gotta kiss on the cheek, both cheeks, you know what I mean? Not even that?

• 43:16Laci Mosley?

  No, besame nada, okay?

• 43:20Speaker 06

  But the song is besame mucho.

• 43:22Speaker 00

  This guy doesn't like me then.

• 43:25Speaker 00

  I'm, am I, I guess I'm friends with Alec Baldwin.

• 43:28Laci Mosley?

  Can you imagine going on dates with him? Here in like skimpy ass dresses.

• 43:31Speaker 00

  I'm going on a date and then he shakes my hand.

• 43:32Laci Mosley?

  Shakes your hand.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  If it's six weeks, how do you know if you're dating?

• 43:38Speaker 00

  How do you?

• 43:39Speaker 01

  It's just like handshakes and no make it out, that's.

• 43:41Laci Mosley?

  But what if the handshake escalates? What if it escalates from like a handshake to like you stick one finger inside the palms of your handshake and like move it back and forth?

• 43:50Speaker 06

  You know, like that. You want six weeks of that? Actually, you want six weeks of that?

• 43:54Speaker 01

  Actually, good for her, because at the end of six weeks, she got a kiss. I have been in many relationships that I thought I was in. I didn't get the kiss at the end of the six weeks, so we really were just friends.

• 44:07Speaker 06

  But also.

• 44:07Speaker 01

  She is an inspiration leader.

• 44:12Speaker 06

  But this is another example of why I think Ilaria was part of like scamming, trying to get Alec to marry her, because she's like, I'm not giving up my goods just yet. We're gonna stick with a handshake and then you gotta tie me down.

• 44:28Laci Mosley?

  And he's thinking about her in this kind of like weird fetishizing way of like, oh, she's Hispanic and Spanish.

• 44:36Speaker 06

  He seems the type. He seems the type.

• 44:38Speaker 00

  Wasn't he like obsessed with Selma Hayek?

• 44:40Laci Mosley?

  He was like, I'm gonna lick her coochie, it's gonna taste like rembanditos.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  Yes. If, what I wanna know is.

• 44:49Speaker 06

  I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna hit her papa's.

• 44:52Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna get canceled.

• 44:53Speaker 00

  Just small bites.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  Did she have a bunch of men on, did she have a bunch of men on deck and then pulled the trigger on Alec?

• 45:02Laci Mosley?

  Had to have, had to have.

• 45:03Speaker 06

  Ooh.

• 45:04Laci Mosley?

  A girl like that has had.

• 45:05Speaker 01

  Who else, who else, who else was in the, in on the like Spanish scam? Like, was she scamming McConaughey?

• 45:13Speaker 06

  Oh my God, can you imagine?

• 45:16Laci Mosley?

  She's like from somewhere else with McConaughey, she's from Australia.

• 45:19Speaker 06

  She just went online and she's like, Oscar nominees.

• 45:22Laci Mosley?

  Also, as a 26 year old at the time, hanging out in a restaurant where Alec Baldwin would also frequent, means that she was one of those like skinny hot restaurant girls who went everywhere and got everything paid for. And I know because I was ever, I'm not thin and I don't need to be thin, I like my size, but I was hot, I'm hot. And so when I was younger, in my early twenties, I would be bippin' and boppin' in the most expensive restaurants. I'd be at all the steakhouses, girl. I'd be in there with the airfleas, with the, with the, with the stenos, with everybody, and we'd just be in there like, mm, thank you so much for this surf and turf, Mr. Man. I don't know your name.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  You, you, you're not thin.

• 46:02Laci Mosley?

  I just mean like, you know how they, you know, they're like.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Skinny pop.

• 46:07Laci Mosley?

  They're like the girls, but look, I look like I'm eating a sandwich. They, they're the girls who, you know.

• 46:12Speaker 00

  They're like eating a half a side salad and like, I'm so full.

• 46:15Laci Mosley?

  I'm so full. Or like all, they, they order all this food and it's all still left on the table when they go out to the club.

• 46:20Speaker 06

  That's rude. That's so disrespectful.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  That's also wild, because like a twit, like a young girl like that, just speaking in a fake accent in a restaurant, I would just assume that she was an NYU student.

• 46:31Laci Mosley?

  You know she didn't go to NYU?

• 46:33Speaker 01

  She did. Did she go to NYU?

• 46:35Speaker 00

  She went to NYU. Didn't she, she went to NYU?

• 46:38Laci Mosley?

  That's what she said, but she didn't go there. She went to.

• 46:42Speaker 00

  What?

• 46:44Speaker 06

  No, no.

• 46:46Speaker 00

  No, that's rude. She didn't even go to NYU.

• 46:48Laci Mosley?

  She went to like Cambridge, she went to like some Boston school. She went to this Boston school. Uh, pull, uh, somebody grab this for me, but no.

• 46:56Speaker 06

  You can't claim you're from NYU and not go there. That shit is.

• 46:59Laci Mosley?

  So we have a clip of her talking about her engagement. Also, she was never married before, FYI, for you guys who are waiting for that fact. Um, and now we have a clip of her talking briefly about her engagement. So in 2012, she's gonna get married. So this is Extra. She's on Extra right now. She's talking about her engagement to Alec Baldwin. Go ahead.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  Land out or did you, how did, I mean, did it pop, like, how did it happen?

• 47:24Speaker 00

  Well, he took me out to Montauk. And he said that was as close as he could get to Spain, to my family and to Rome, because he really liked Rome as well. And, um, he got down on his knee. And then I don't remember the rest, because I started crying. But, um, but yeah, he's sorry, I'm out.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Is he?

• 47:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:44Speaker 02

  Look at your face. You're turning, you're so cute.

• 47:46Speaker 00

  He's turning all red now.

• 47:48Laci Mosley?

  All right, that's good. Cut. So he took her to Montauk, which they call the, I'm sure she, he took her to the edge of the world, which there's like this lighthouse in Montauk, which they call like the end of the world or whatever. He took her there and said, this is the closest we could get to Spain. You Alec Baldwin bitch, can't we fly to Spain?

• 48:08Speaker 00

  Fly to Spain.

• 48:09Speaker 06

  You lie.

• 48:09Speaker 00

  Get on a plane, bitch.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  I guess she, I guess she was at NYU and then, I guess she was at BU and then transferred to NYU.

• 48:18Laci Mosley?

  Okay, okay.

• 48:19Speaker 06

  Oh shit, okay, I was doing some research.

• 48:21Laci Mosley?

  Because her story, yeah, her story, oh yeah, we got it popped up over here in the corner too. Her story was that she flew from España straight to NYU.

• 48:29Speaker 00

  Straight to NYU.

• 48:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but she took a stop at.

• 48:31Speaker 00

  She was at BU first.

• 48:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, there was a layover at BU.

• 48:35Laci Mosley?

  It was a small layover, you know, a couple of years at BU. Um, I also want somebody to just propose to me at the lighthouse at the end of the world and be like, this is the closest we could get to Africa.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  I get it though, because you know, being, being like, being spicy, being, you know, uh, Latina in, um, at BU is probably not good for you.

• 48:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, nobody cares. You gotta get to New York City, baby. So even though in New York City, there's so many Latinos, like, there's so many Latinos, there's so many Hispanic people, like.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  Right, but if they think you're Hispanic at BU, like, I don't know, would you get killed or something?

• 49:12Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 49:14Laci Mosley?

  They do racist.

• 49:15Speaker 01

  It's in Boston. I just, I just think they kill everybody.

• 49:18Laci Mosley?

  And Boston, Boston.

• 49:20Speaker 06

  Nah, she kept that to herself. She didn't pull up that fantasy just yet.

• 49:23Laci Mosley?

  Right. So in 2012, the two got married and Ilaria incorporated several Spanish elements into her 175 guest wedding, a small wedding. She later said that, "I like that I brought in a bit of my culture."

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  During their vows, Ilaria is seen waving a flamenco hand fan. I don't know why. There it is.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  Why?

• 49:50Speaker 00

  So wild.

• 49:52Laci Mosley?

  You know.

• 49:52Speaker 00

  So truly wild.

• 49:53Laci Mosley?

  Cause Espania, I hope she at least got on Pinterest and was like, "Espania weddings" or something. Cause I, was she about to do the can-can? What's happening? That's not Spanish anywhere.

• 50:04Speaker 06

  That's so weird. That's more Moulin Rouge than in this game.

• 50:07Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 50:08Laci Mosley?

  She said, "Whatever I can find." So, you know, Google wasn't that good back then. They didn't add several O's to Google since 2012. So she probably had like six O's when she Googled. So they exchanged wedding bands that had "somos un buen equipo," which means "we are a good team," inscribed on their wedding bands. So to this day, probably Alec Baldwin can pull off his wedding band and see the Spanish.

• 50:34Speaker 06

  Be reminded of how much of a fool he was.

• 50:37Laci Mosley?

  So, introducing Mrs. Baldwin. This one's gonna be a little longer, guys, but we're gonna get through it. We're almost there. Uh, so for weeks now, the internet has been sharing evidence of Ilaria speaking in Spanish accents in some videos and standard American English in others. How you say? Play that video. This is my favorite video. So this is Ilaria on a cooking show.

• 51:01Speaker 06

  Oh, is this a cucumber video?

• 51:04Laci Mosley?

  She's on Today, and she's doing a cooking segment, you know, as the wife of Mrs. Baldwin, Señorita Baldwin. So she's on here doing a cooking segment, guys, and we just want you to listen to him.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  Two ingredients. We have tomatoes. We have, um, how do you say it? Cucumber? Cucumbers. We have, um, red pepper. We have, of course.

• 51:24Laci Mosley?

  Stop, stop. How you say in English?

• 51:29Speaker 00

  How you say it?

• 51:29Laci Mosley?

  Cu- cu- cu- cu- cucaracha?

• 51:31Speaker 00

  Cucumber?

• 51:31Laci Mosley?

  Cucumber.

• 51:34Laci Mosley?

  Cuca, cu- cu- cucumber. Cucumber. Okay. How dare she?

• 51:45Speaker 06

  It's so rude. It's like, that is so rude. To not even say it in Sp- oh, how do you say? Oh, como se dice? Sepepino? It's like, you said it in Engli-

• 52:00Laci Mosley?

  She said, "How you say?"

• 52:01Speaker 01

  How you say cucumber?

• 52:06Speaker 06

  How you say cucumber?

• 52:12Speaker 06

  Come on now. Come on now.

• 52:15Laci Mosley?

  It was beautiful. It was-

• 52:17Speaker 06

  She started, you know what? That was the point. She started believing her own lie.

• 52:20Laci Mosley?

  She did. She said, "I'ma flex on these hoes on the Today Show, okay?" Oh, you just know, when she's having sex with Alec, she's probably like, "Ay, papi."

• 52:30Speaker 06

  Ay, ay, como se dice? Ay, I'm coming. How do you say I'm coming?

• 52:39Speaker 01

  She got in too deep. She got in too-

• 52:43Speaker 00

  She got in too deep. And then she got in too deep.

• 52:47Laci Mosley?

  Yo, I ain't even gonna lie. Okay, I used to date a Puerto Rican man, and he got some "Ay, papi's out on me," okay? I had a good time. I had a good time. And by that, Mom, I mean, we were praying, okay, Mom, if you're listening to this. By papi, I mean Daddy Jesus, okay? So, let's get into her life as the married woman. Obviously, the cucumber video. So, Ilaria has many talents. One is being Spanish, and another is being pregnant. Um, she has had five children. Yes, um, and so-

• 53:21Speaker 06

  Very fertile.

• 53:22Laci Mosley?

  Um, shout out to, look at these, and she loves to post photos on Instagram of her pregnant. Um, shout out to-

• 53:30Speaker 01

  Same.

• 53:33Speaker 00

  Constantly on Instagram.

• 53:35Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I have a friend-

• 53:37Speaker 00

  Posting pictures of myself in underwear.

• 53:38Laci Mosley?

  Who posted a video as Ilaria Baldwin, and at the end, she was like, "You know, this whole thing is a misunderstanding." She was like, "You know, I am a, como se dice? I am, uh, embarazada." And they were like, "No, that, that means, that means pregnant." And she was like, "Well, I am that too."

• 53:55Laci Mosley?

  Cause she's pregnant so much. So, her kids' names are Carmen, Rafael Tomas, Leonardo Angel, Romeo Alejandro, Eduardo, Paul, Lucas. Those are the names of her-

• 54:11Speaker 06

  They sound like the Ninja Turtles.

• 54:12Laci Mosley?

  White, Ash children.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  That is the whole cast of Passions.

• 54:23Speaker 06

  Yes, Ira, yes! Oh my God.

• 54:30Laci Mosley?

  Can you imagine committing to a bit so hard that your children? Imagine if she did this and she was pretending to be Nigerian, and she was naming her kids like, "Timmy, hola, wafemi," and they're like, white as snow. Like, you have to go your whole life. People are like, "Why are you white?" Like, Mean Girls is your whole, like, "Why are you white?"

• 54:52Speaker 00

  I truly respect the bit. I, I respect the commitment. Like, it's so stupid. It's such a stupid thing.

• 54:59Speaker 06

  She got her kids involved now. She got her kids involved for the Spanish.

• 55:04Speaker 00

  Her kids are like the kids in the Americans, like, thinking that they're just like normal American kids, except that they think that they're Spanish.

• 55:13Laci Mosley?

  She said that she sends them to a bilingual school where they have Spanish in school, and she speaks to them in Spanish at home. After the pandemic, she said that she and Mr. Baldwin, I don't know why she said Mr. Baldwin, she said Señor Baldwin, you know, Miss Bosso, plan to spend more time with their children in Mallorca. That's from the New York Times.

• 55:34Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 55:34Laci Mosley?

  So whoever the New York Times fact checker is, baby girl.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Lying to the New York Times. What, does she work for Trump?

• 55:42Speaker 06

  That's just sinful. That's sin.

• 55:45Laci Mosley?

  Nowadays, when you go to the New York Times, they're like, "Okay, so we're gonna need you to do an ancestrytree.com before we'll do the interview."

• 55:51Speaker 06

  Wanna take a little saliva sample, gonna do 23andMe.

• 55:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, just making sure. I might not come back as Thomas Jefferson, so then I'll be white.

• 56:02Speaker 01

  You know, if I scammed, my kid's scamming too. I don't give a fuck.

• 56:06Speaker 00

  That's the point of having a kid, right?

• 56:08Laci Mosley?

  Her kids got it honest.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  I'm, I'm like, "I'm in this, you in this."

• 56:13Laci Mosley?

  Come here, rabin. Bata de ración. So, here's some more brain farts. Um, so she's break, so she was pregnant and working out in heels, and she wasn't using her accent. And we'll see a small clip of this.

• 56:26Speaker 06

  Oh, shit.

• 56:27Speaker 03

  Your leg out and then close it, and then open it out and close it. When you open it out, you should activate the outer glutes. When you close it, you should feel inner thigh working.

• 56:35Speaker 00

  The heels are one thing, but she is wearing wool.

• 56:38Speaker 03

  Out and in. I know you're gonna ask, the heels are not necessary. It's going out with my husband right now, so don't make a big deal about it.

• 56:45Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so she's wearing a wool sweater, uh, high inch heels. Um, and if you guys are familiar with like the Pagal Louboutin, oh my God, why did I just say that? That's a ridiculous thing to say. But it's like-

• 56:57Speaker 06

  I'm sorry, what?

• 56:59Laci Mosley?

  It's like a pointy, high heeled shoe, um, that's like a pointy heel. But like, it's like an uncomfortable shoe to even stand in. And she's doing leg lifts in it.

• 57:10Laci Mosley?

  With no accent. What accent, girl?

• 57:13Speaker 06

  It flipped. She literally flipped, like a light switch.

• 57:17Laci Mosley?

  A lot of people said-

• 57:18Speaker 06

  And blew us a kiss.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  The pain of the, the pain of the heels and the wool, she like, she, she could do all that at once, okay?

• 57:26Laci Mosley?

  That was a lot. You're right. She was, she was fully pregnant. Also, she's like, nine months pregnant, wearing a high, painful heel, in a wool sweater. She can't also keep a Spanish accent at that time.

• 57:37Speaker 00

  All of the Spanish is just being absorbed through the placenta into the baby.

• 57:45Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. A quote from her former dance partner was, cause she used to dance a lot. She says, "The whole Ilaria thing is hilarious to me," he says, like, obviously knowing that she wasn't Hispanic. He says, "When they danced the rumba and the cha-cha and events at the New York Dance Festival, he knew her as Hillary, Hillary Hayward Thomas." So even when she was doing the cha-cha and, you know, the rumba, she wasn't pretending to be Ilaria. And here's a picture of her doing the cha-cha and the rumba, and look at how tan she is. But you know, all the dancers, tan, raw.

• 58:14Speaker 06

  This, for bottom dancing, this is just normal. Oh, my God.

• 58:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she's dark skinned, man. Viole Davis, is that you?

• 58:26Speaker 01

  My clients.

• 58:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, she's so dark skinned. She's dark, I'm gonna miss her.

• 58:33Speaker 06

  Oh, Mario Lopez.

• 58:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Mario Lopez. Is Mario Lopez Hispanic? I don't know now. I don't know.

• 58:39Speaker 06

  She drained, she drained all of his Latinx energy. She's like a succubus for the Latinx people.

• 58:45Laci Mosley?

  Here's looking at you, Mario. I don't know. Um, so, the trouble began for Miss Baldwin on December 21st, uh, this past year. That is, when a woman who uses the Twitter handle Lynn Brisco tweeted, "You have to admire Ilaria Baldwin's commitment to her decade-long grift where she impersonates a Spanish person." Um, just so you guys know, she also, like, was on Aloha Magazine twice with her family of, you know, her Latino family with Alec Baldwin, which I found very funny. She was also, um, what is the Latinx, I think it's like called Latina, or, yeah, Latina Magazine?

• 59:20Speaker 06

  Latina Magazine.

• 59:21Laci Mosley?

  Latina Magazine. She was best dressed on Latina Magazine like three years in a row. Um, and she was always like, "Thank you."

• 59:26Speaker 06

  Latina Magazine should know better.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Justin Timberlake has, um, BET Awards.

• 59:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, but Justin Timberlake is more Latina than Ilaria.

• 59:39Laci Mosley?

  Your steam. So here we have a video of Ilaria speaking Spanish, and I actually thought that her Spanish wasn't too bad. She sounds kinda like a Spaniard, but she's really putting the stank on it in a way that I was like, "Baby girl," so.

• 59:53Speaker 06

  She's pushing?

• 59:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she's a bullshit, bull thing.

• 59:57Speaker 03

  Sentado este cuarto embarazo. Marealva. Sí, pero estoy bien. Sí, cansada, mareada, pero estoy bien. No. Casi, casi tengo tres meses, entonces estoy en esta época, pero, pero bien. Y súper feliz.

• 1:00:11Laci Mosley?

  Y súper feliz. When I tell you-

• 1:00:13Speaker 06

  She stuck out her tongue, though. That shit was pageantry.

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  She's giving you-

• 1:00:19Speaker 00

  A lot of people don't stick out their tongue when they do the ass.

• 1:00:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:22Laci Mosley?

  That's not- This half over here looking like the mask. She was like, "And smoking." Her tongue is all the way out.

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  Freddy Krueger through the phone tongue, okay? Just like, "Ah."

• 1:00:36Speaker 06

  That shit was a Budweiser commercial.

• 1:00:40Speaker 01

  And also do- and also doing that thing that like, that white woman thing where she's doing an accent of like the shaking her head with like all the accents too. It's like, "Hola, coro scout."

• 1:00:52Laci Mosley?

  "Coober!"

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  Yo, I know- Gonna move her whole body to do the voice.

• 1:00:57Laci Mosley?

  I know where-

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  It looked like, when you're watching it, it was like, yes, her Spanish, like, she, she knows it. She studied it, I guess, but like-

• 1:01:05Speaker 06

  She speaks it.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  Just, just, she speaks it, but didn't it feel to anybody else like, the person interviewing her must have been like, what? It seemed like she was thinking as she was speaking.

• 1:01:16Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:01:16Speaker 01

  You know, like, it's not, it's not natural.

• 1:01:19Laci Mosley?

  I wanna say the opposite. I think that she has some rehearsed phrases specifically around her children, because obviously this was like a embarazada. She's talking about being pregnant and how far along she is and how much she loves her kids. And I think she had a little- because look, I personally speak Spanish. I'm like, I, you know, it's, I can speak, I can get away around. If I got dropped off in any Spanish-speaking country, I'd be fine. But-

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  We've heard today.

• 1:01:45Laci Mosley?

  But there, but you know, but my, I'm not fluent, though. It's, it's super broken. But there are certain phrases I can get out very easily. Like, if people ask me, like, "How do you speak Spanish?" And I'm like, "Los mujeres que cuidadme cuando están chiquitos solo habla español. Enséñame. Es porque yo habla español." And like, those, that kind of stuff I can get out very quickly and it sounds good. But then if you ask me anything else, I'm like, "Okay, um..."

• 1:02:07Laci Mosley?

  "My son go, uh, cat?" Like, it's gonna be-

• 1:02:11Speaker 06

  You pull out a book?

• 1:02:13Laci Mosley?

  I pull out Duolingo, that album that gaslights you. It's like, "Bitch, why you ain't doing your Duolingo today?"

• 1:02:21Laci Mosley?

  "You don't wanna be bilingual no more? You wanna be trash? Alright, xenophobe."

• 1:02:28Speaker 06

  Now, my que- now, my question to y'all is this. Do you think she had a Spanish coach teaching her and working with her on the DL, teaching her Spanish?

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  I would buy-

• 1:02:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Every, every good-

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  Those Argentinians?

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, every good soap opera villainess has a male lackey.

• 1:02:51Speaker 01

  Does work for them. So he's probably full from Spain, um-

• 1:02:56Speaker 06

  And you know he's gay. He's got to be gay.

• 1:02:58Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes.

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  Gay or like-

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  This is elementary school Oscar, but like, he stayed on the dark side.

• 1:03:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. Gay or like, um, almost celibate and like, in love with her and she never notices.

• 1:03:13Laci Mosley?

  I believe this. And you know, Alex gotta go away to shoot stuff. He's gotta go away to do movies and production. So she probably had plenty of time to really get the Spanish popping and, you know, caliente by the time that he returned. But I just wanna say, that video of her working that tongue, I'm like, I know her tongue was tired as fuck. When she got home, she was like, "Put that bitch in some Polydent, because goddamn, she was beating the fuck up out of that tongue. Woo."

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  And she couldn't even, she couldn't even use it on Alec.

• 1:03:41Laci Mosley?

  She was like, "Not tonight."

• 1:03:42Speaker 06

  She's like, "Not, yeah, not tonight. I had a press thing tonight. I can't tonight."

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  No wonder it took them six weeks to kiss.

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  She was tired. The mouth was exhausted.

• 1:03:56Laci Mosley?

  Are you getting mouth cramps? She went to the doctor. They were like, "You need to stay off of it. You need to stay off of your mouth."

• 1:04:02Speaker 06

  Whatever you're doing, stop.

• 1:04:04Laci Mosley?

  Suck on some ice and stay off your mouth, okay? Because you do it too much.

• 1:04:09Laci Mosley?

  So, she said that she doesn't think that travel, like, she would refer an online post to her traveling to Spain as going home, which she says that she doesn't think is misleading. Um, and obviously, we've seen a lot of videos of her accent gone wrong or gone away. Um, I wanna say that I don't think, uh, Elaria Baldwin's accent has gone away. I think it's just on, like, maybe a vacation. I think it's in the Bahamas with Tupac. I think it's gonna come back. And so, I'm excited for when she takes it back up again.

• 1:04:39Speaker 00

  I'm waiting for what accent is gonna drop next. Like, she's been revealed as not Spanish. Where's she gonna go next?

• 1:04:45Laci Mosley?

  Let's-

• 1:04:45Speaker 00

  Suddenly, she's German. I don't know.

• 1:04:48Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  Will she inspire, will she inspire other young white women too, to be Spanish?

• 1:04:54Speaker 06

  But honestly, honestly, this is a tale as old as time. This is the study abroad complex that we see all the time. A white girl studies abroad and all of a sudden, she is that culture. You know, she comes back and her voice is a little different, her vibe is a little different. The country, quote unquote, changed her, along with her personality and her voice. So, Hilaria is just, you know, she's took a lot of semesters abroad, you know what I mean? And she's just keeping that culture real close to her.

• 1:05:22Speaker 00

  I get it, because being a white girl is boring. Like, it's boring being a wasp. Be a white girl. It's so boring. And like, so much of being a wasp is like, repressing all of your emotions. You're not really allowed to like things. You just have, like, if you like something, you're like, "Yeah, it's good." Like, that's as much emotion as you're allowed to show in those circles. So, actually-

• 1:05:45Laci Mosley?

  You go to a Beyonce Cramps concert and you're like, "Well, this is alright."

• 1:05:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, I like it. And then you're slightly boffing and people are like, "Calm down."

• 1:05:51Speaker 06

  That'll do Beyonce.

• 1:05:53Speaker 00

  Calm down. Too much.

• 1:05:54Laci Mosley?

  That'll do Beyonce.

• 1:05:55Speaker 00

  You're embarrassing your family.

• 1:05:56Laci Mosley?

  You're embarrassing your family. That'll do Beyonce. That killed Beyonce.

• 1:06:01Speaker 06

  She's gotta have a babe moment.

• 1:06:02Laci Mosley?

  Let's hear, uh, so Alec Baldwin came out to defend his esposa against the rumors and allegations. Um, and we're just gonna hear a very short clip, because he does this eight-minute video where he rambles the entire time about cancel culture, not specific to her, very much specific to him, because he's obviously a narcissist. He's talking about how much he hates TMZ, all this other stuff. It's just like-

• 1:06:21Speaker 06

  He talks about Jeffrey Epstein, right?

• 1:06:23Laci Mosley?

  He talks about Epstein and he was like, "I wasn't on the Lolita logs and I wasn't..." It was like, very much like old man shakes fist at cloud. Um, but at-

• 1:06:31Speaker 00

  Why do you have to say that you weren't on the logs?

• 1:06:34Speaker 06

  I know. He does protest too much.

• 1:06:36Laci Mosley?

  You know? He's like, "I didn't take the plane. I took the bus."

• 1:06:42Speaker 00

  I just want everybody to know now, I was not on the Jeffrey Epstein planes. I wasn't, I didn't have anything to do with it. I don't know that man.

• 1:06:49Laci Mosley?

  So, yeah, it's a lot. But this is 17 seconds at the end of the video where it's, he's alluding to Elaria Baldwin. We're gonna play that.

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  When you love somebody, you wanna defend them.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  Consider the source.

• 1:07:10Speaker 00

  I love that this feels like he's in, like, a Mission Impossible movie and he's about to, like, explode into nothingness.

• 1:07:21Laci Mosley?

  Why is he whispering? Is she upstairs or something?

• 1:07:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, because first of all, they definitely have stairs in their apartment in New York. And also, she's definitely, like, right next door, listening to him.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  That was so Kevin Spacey, though. That was like, that was just like those videos that he releases every holiday, where it's like-

• 1:07:40Speaker 00

  Like, who asked for this? Nobody wants to-

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  I'm just doing my southern accent. Also, I'm gonna kill another person, um, this week, who has accused me of misconduct.

• 1:07:52Speaker 06

  He's like, "Yeah, y'all canceled me, but I'm still acting."

• 1:07:56Speaker 00

  Nobody's watching those videos, right? He could be admitting to murders, Kevin Spacey, in those videos. Every time one comes out, I'm like, "I'm not gonna watch that. You watch?"

• 1:08:05Laci Mosley?

  People are watching him.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  They're creepy, but they're funny.

• 1:08:08Laci Mosley?

  People are watching them.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  He's crazed.

• 1:08:09Laci Mosley?

  He is. Because it just takes a lot of audacity to get on camera and be like, "People wanna see this? Like, what?"

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  Make it a whole web series.

• 1:08:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 1:08:20Laci Mosley?

  Kevin, and I love that it is around the holidays. They ruin every Christmas.

• 1:08:25Speaker 06

  What the hell?

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  But back to Alec Baldwin defending Serena. Um, I would, uh, I just loved his, he could be talking about anything, though.

• 1:08:37Speaker 06

  Anything.

• 1:08:38Speaker 01

  Consider the source.

• 1:08:41Laci Mosley?

  And I will say, he did reiterate that phrase during the earlier parts of the video. He's like, "TMZ, not a good source. Consider that source." Like, so he says it a lot. So then, I think he thinks at the end, he's like, "Driving it home."

• 1:08:54Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  Consider the source.

• 1:08:56Laci Mosley?

  But, but Alec, the source is Elaria Baldwin.

• 1:09:00Speaker 00

  The source is Elaria Baldwin.

• 1:09:02Speaker 06

  The source are facts, bro. Like, they're true. The, these are facts. People have done the research and she got caught.

• 1:09:09Laci Mosley?

  And videos.

• 1:09:10Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:09:10Speaker 00

  And she got caught, because like, even the accent that he's doing to make fun of her is not the fake accent that she has.

• 1:09:18Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:09:19Speaker 00

  Like, the accent that he is doing is so much more ridiculously Spanish than the, like, little kind of flavor of it that she has, that it, it's like, what?

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  He was giving you, like, Sofia Vergara.

• 1:09:33Laci Mosley?

  Right. I think that's who he thought he married.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  Yes, that's what he thought he married. It's like, that's the accent he's, like, trying to give, and she's giving more like, not that.

• 1:09:44Laci Mosley?

  Alec just-

• 1:09:45Speaker 01

  It's too much, it's too much white woman every time she does the accent. It's always like a light little accent and then it's just like cucumber.

• 1:09:55Laci Mosley?

  I'll do, I'll do say it. I'll do say it.

• 1:09:58Speaker 06

  How do you say, how do you say?

• 1:09:59Laci Mosley?

  Cucumber.

• 1:10:03Laci Mosley?

  Cucumber. It's like, how do you say?

• 1:10:05Speaker 06

  Exactly, yeah. Cucumber.

• 1:10:09Laci Mosley?

  Alright, guys, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be back for the end of the show. Wow, what a ride. What a rodeo. Robbery!

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• 1:10:35Speaker 02

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• 1:10:42Speaker 01

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• 1:10:48Speaker 00

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• 1:12:15Laci Mosley?

  And fraud! All right, guys. Oh, we need to decompress. I need a siesta. After that, we're here for Scammer of the Week, and this is the end of the show. It's so sad because this is where I'm gonna have to let Oscar and Ira and Siobhan go. But before we go, antes, there we go.

• 1:12:37Laci Mosley?

  If you speak Spanish, I know I'm getting on your nerves today.

• 1:12:42Laci Mosley?

  Scammer of the Week. So Scammer of the Week is very like, we're just talking about an artist who says that a man posed as a building owner hired him for a mural, then disappeared. So an Illinois artist, Joshua Hawkins, Joshua Hawkins, um, no, he's a, he's just a regular white man, said that a man named Nate hired him last month to paint a mural on his building and offered Hawkins more than he was asking to do for it. So this man was like, hey, I'm gonna, will you pay, commission this art? I'll pay you for it. And he's like, maybe like 1,700. He's like, okay, 3,000. He's like, um.

• 1:13:14Speaker 06

  That's wild. Whoa.

• 1:13:16Laci Mosley?

  When do people ever offer more?

• 1:13:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:13:18Speaker 00

  As an artist, not under any circumstances ever.

• 1:13:21Laci Mosley?

  Right. Also, if anybody ever offers you more, it's drugs and whatever they're trying to get you to do. They don't want you to know it.

• 1:13:28Speaker 06

  There's drugs in that paint.

• 1:13:31Speaker 00

  You gotta lick that paint like in Willy Wonka.

• 1:13:33Laci Mosley?

  Right, everyone's licking the paint. So he said, Hawkins said that he met the man twice. First, when the man dropped off the paint. And then, second, when he dropped off the other half of the payment. Um, so he said at the time, he didn't think anything about the situation, like, was off, right? So he did the mural, and he got a crew, it took three days to paint. Then, like, some of the things started to click, and I realized, well, the guy met me at the building, but he didn't really stay too long. He was kind of rushed and took off really quick. I never went inside of the building, and he met me outside to drop off the paint and money, said Hawkins.

• 1:14:13Laci Mosley?

  So.

• 1:14:15Speaker 06

  So suspicious a bit?

• 1:14:17Laci Mosley?

  He was like, I started to realize people, things were suspicious when we met in an alleyway at 3:00 a.m. And he kept looking.

• 1:14:24Speaker 06

  He came in with a trench coat and a big old hat.

• 1:14:29Laci Mosley?

  He looked from side to side constantly. I thought he had a neck condition.

• 1:14:33Speaker 06

  He kept saying, tell no one.

• 1:14:37Laci Mosley?

  So when it was done, he called the man who hired him and hasn't gotten a call back. Last week, to his surprise, Hawkins got a call from the building's actual owner, also named Nate. He said, I thought it was a prank at first. So he calls and asks, like, do you know this guy? And what, what the hell did you just paint on my building? And I kind of chuckled, and I was like, I was hired to paint it. So come to find out, this guy had him paint a Russian phrase that was peace, land, and cookies, roughly translated into English, on a mural. And he did, on a building that he didn't own. So how does Donald Trump factor into this?

• 1:15:15Speaker 06

  Okay, but Joshua Hawkins

• 1:15:21Speaker 06

  got paid.

• 1:15:23Laci Mosley?

  He did. So this is an ethical scammer.

• 1:15:24Speaker 00

  It can't be Trump, because Trump doesn't pay his contract.

• 1:15:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:15:28Laci Mosley?

  But it's Russia, though. Like, why you, what is this peace and cookies?

• 1:15:32Speaker 06

  People think cookies?

• 1:15:33Speaker 00

  It's like a, it was a Cookie Monster thing, right? I think it was like Cookie Monster with the phrase peace, love, peace.

• 1:15:40Laci Mosley?

  Land and cookies. I don't know. That feels like some kind of code, like, for the operatives to come. So this is what it is.

• 1:15:46Speaker 00

  That's a cool fucking mural.

• 1:15:47Speaker 06

  How weird.

• 1:15:49Speaker 00

  I think that's dope.

• 1:15:50Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, y'all.

• 1:15:51Speaker 06

  With an actual Cookie Monster? That's copyrighted material right there.

• 1:15:55Laci Mosley?

  This feels like terrorism.

• 1:15:59Laci Mosley?

  This looking like terrorism's to me. Like, this where all the spies get activated and they meet up and.

• 1:16:05Speaker 06

  You know what it is? It's a clue. It's a clue.

• 1:16:07Speaker 00

  It's a bit. It's somebody doing a bit. Somebody's window faces this building, and they were like, I'm gonna get this mural painted for my friend as a bit.

• 1:16:17Laci Mosley?

  I don't believe that. Y'all haven't been on Wayfair lately, okay? Let me put y'all on my Q and A theory. Oh, gosh, guys. Well, this has been a fantastic episode. Oh, man, I'm so excited to release it. Let's just do a little roundtable here. We can start with you, Siobhan. Where do you want to be found?

• 1:16:37Speaker 00

  Oh, you can follow me on Twitter, @VonnyTom, or Instagram. If, if you're, any of your audience cares about Dungeons and Dragons, I feel like that's a, that's a wide Venn diagram. You can watch Dimension 20 on YouTube. Um, it's fun. I don't know. It's, it's, it's a bad time. We're all doing what we can.

• 1:16:58Laci Mosley?

  I love that you're a woman in Dungeons and Dragons.

• 1:17:00Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:17:01Laci Mosley?

  Because I was reading, I went down a wormhole about, like, the misogyny in Dungeons and Dragons, so.

• 1:17:05Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. No, fuck that shit. No, it's, we, it's a very, um, it's, the world is changing.

• 1:17:12Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 1:17:12Speaker 00

  We're taking it back. It's, it's UCB circa 2018. We're taking back the space.

• 1:17:18Laci Mosley?

  Even the imaginary world. Do you hear that? You hear that? You maga racist. They're taking everything. We're taking Dungeons and Dragons.

• 1:17:25Speaker 00

  You don't get to be racist in a fantasy world either. Keep it to yourself.

• 1:17:30Laci Mosley?

  The dragon got a durag now, y'all. Was good.

• 1:17:35Speaker 01

  Dungeons and Dragonettes.

• 1:17:38Laci Mosley?

  Yes. The girls are down there as well.

• 1:17:43Laci Mosley?

  Ira, where would you want to be found?

• 1:17:47Speaker 01

  Um, nowhere. I have a lot of outstanding bills. You, I actually just launched a newsletter.

• 1:17:57Laci Mosley?

  Ooh.

• 1:17:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, and, you know, so find me at iramadison.substack.com.

• 1:18:04Laci Mosley?

  Oh. I'm sure that would be very.

• 1:18:05Speaker 01

  Forget the other socials. Forget the other socials.

• 1:18:08Laci Mosley?

  No, I love your other socials. Ira's so good on Twitter.

• 1:18:11Speaker 01

  Well, I'm back on Twitter. I'm back on Twitter, but I lost the @Ira because of my foolishness. So I have a new account. It's Ira the third, two Es, like Megan.

• 1:18:23Laci Mosley?

  You were an early mover if you got Ira. Wow. Maybe one day we can wrestle it back from Jack's hands.

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  Please, please, can we bling ring Jack?

• 1:18:35Speaker 00

  We can bling ring Jack and not do anything else. That sounds like a great day.

• 1:18:40Speaker 01

  I want to rob.

• 1:18:41Laci Mosley?

  I want to steal. I do, too.

• 1:18:44Speaker 00

  It's a white robbery.

• 1:18:45Laci Mosley?

  And, uh.

• 1:18:46Speaker 00

  Quarantine is so boring.

• 1:18:48Laci Mosley?

  Right? Come on now. Everybody's in their home.

• 1:18:50Speaker 00

  Just let me rob a little bit.

• 1:18:51Laci Mosley?

  Like, there's no, and there's no subsidies for robbers. You know, everyone's in their home. Like, what, how, what's the thing?

• 1:18:56Speaker 00

  You don't get unemployment as a robber?

• 1:18:57Laci Mosley?

  Robbers need a stimmy.

• 1:18:59Speaker 01

  Although, would have been a great time during quarantine to bling ring the Kardashians when they was on that island.

• 1:19:05Laci Mosley?

  Ooh.

• 1:19:05Speaker 06

  Ooh. Missed opportunity. You're right.

• 1:19:09Speaker 01

  Yes, stay woke.

• 1:19:11Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 1:19:12Laci Mosley?

  Stay woke.

• 1:19:15Laci Mosley?

  All right, and last but not least, Oscar. Where would you like to be found?

• 1:19:21Speaker 06

  Me pueden encontrar in Twitter or Instagram. Uh, on Ozzymo, O-Z-Z-Y-M-O. I'm also, oh, man, you can find all of my podcasts that I do there. So I think that's the easiest way to, to find me and reach me.

• 1:19:35Laci Mosley?

  Oh, right. And as always, guys, as always, I'm gonna be British at the end, just to literally just like switch it up. As always, guys, Lacey Mosley. You can find me at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I, Diva Lacey, on all platforms. And if you want to find the show, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, just make sure that the scammer's retired so we don't fuck up your bag. That is [email protected]. Con la agresión. ¿Cómo dices stay? ¿Cómo dices, cómo dices stay?

• 1:20:00Speaker 06

  Quédate.

• 1:20:00Laci Mosley?

  Quédate. Con la agresión. Quédate scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess is starring me, duh, Scam Goddess, AKA Lacey Mosley. Scam Goddess is produced by Chelsea Jacobson and engineered by Marina Paes, with research by Sherilyn Vera. Stay scheming.

• 1:20:27Speaker 00

  Hola a todos. Soy Jamie Lynn Sigler. Cuando me diagnosticaron, tenía veintitantos años, y todo mi mundo cambió por completo. Pero con el tiempo decidí que no iba a permitir que eso frenara mi vida. Quise tomar las riendas. Y después de hablar con mi médico sobre mis opciones, la elección para mí fue obvia. Boom, eso es KISSIMTA. Obtenga más información sobre KISSIMTA o Fotumamab en kissimta.com.

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