CLAVICULAR Talks Female Psychology, Drug Habit, Infamy

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:13Speaker 01

  If you're gonna take out hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of loans, you might as well invest it into surgery rather than going to school.

• 1:21Adam Friedland?

  What if you could be a plastic surgeon?

• 1:23Speaker 01

  And by the way, you can actually get college loans and use it for surgery. So this is a method. So I've been, I've been telling people, yeah, you can literally do that. So just misappropriating the funds, it's really not gonna get you in that much trouble. And you'll mog, so you'll be able to sort of get out of it.

• 2:12Adam Friedland?

  Welcome to a very special episode of The Adam Friedland Show. It's Adam Friedland. We're gonna get right into it. My guest this week is controversial Kickstarter and looks Maxer Clavicular. That guy. Clavicular has enjoyed quite the meteoric rise over the last six months, thanks in part to a series of livestream controversies that have put him on the social radar of anyone and everyone that has a social media feed. I wonder if our parents... You think our parents do?

• 2:39Speaker 03

  My mom does.

• 2:39Adam Friedland?

  Your mom knows?

• 2:40Speaker 03

  Because of New York Times.

• 2:41Adam Friedland?

  Because your mom's horny, bro.

• 2:43Speaker 03

  Bro.

• 2:43Adam Friedland?

  Bro, too. Okay, now, I'm no fan of the things this young man has said about various groups like women, the LGBT community, and especially Jews. What has he...

• 2:58Adam Friedland?

  I didn't know that.

• 3:00Speaker 03

  You didn't know that?

• 3:00Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. What has he said about it?

• 3:02Speaker 03

  It's not... Again, we'll talk about it later.

• 3:04Adam Friedland?

  But the bad ones, right?

• 3:06Speaker 03

  The bad Jews?

• 3:11Adam Friedland?

  But I think it's important to view Clavicular as a symptom. A symptom of something much deeper, something much darker, perhaps. A cultural virus that has plagued the country, the world perhaps, for the last decade. And I'm talking about, of course, I don't have to say it, but none other than video game player and pickup artist extraordinaire Hasan Piker.

• 3:46Adam Friedland?

  Our younger generation has grown up idealizing this man, who uses a preternatural fashion sense as a tool for sexual persuasion.

• 4:00Adam Friedland?

  How many times have you seen young men at the store? Or perhaps the mall, wearing this exact outfit? Attempting to mold themselves into a man who's, quite frankly, an anti Semite. Anti Semite of the year, mind you.

• 4:18Adam Friedland?

  A man who views women as workers.

• 4:26Adam Friedland?

  A man who livestreams everything he does, makes it about politics. A man who's not even as big as his dog.

• 4:37Adam Friedland?

  Folks, I'm hoping this interview will be a wake up call for everyone who's watching it. To stop supporting the monster, Hassan P. Care. So please enjoy my interview. With fucking hell. Jesus Christ. But he can use a phone, why is he using that? Anyway, so please enjoy my interview with Clavicular, everyone. It's gonna be a good one, I think it's gonna be a good one.

• 5:09Adam Friedland?

  Ladies and gentlemen, the number one streamer on the Kick. Give it up for Clavicular, everyone.

• 5:20Adam Friedland?

  Welcome, dude.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Thanks for having me.

• 5:23Adam Friedland?

  How you doing? You're in New York City?

• 5:25Speaker 01

  Doing great, man.

• 5:26Adam Friedland?

  You're enjoying it?

• 5:27Speaker 01

  It's a little cold for me, but...

• 5:28Adam Friedland?

  Honestly, like, I'm 38 years old and I'm like, learning about looks maxing and stuff. Like, I do a lot of research for the show. And I feel like, I just feel so, like a boomer. I feel like so foreign from the youth of today. I feel like it's, I'm learning like a new fucking language or something like that.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, all of the terms are quite comical, but, you know, you're not in your own world with not knowing about this whole looks max thing. It's kind of a new thing that's popped up over the past few months, I would say, to the mainstream.

• 5:57Adam Friedland?

  Right.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  It's been...

• 5:58Adam Friedland?

  But it existed in forums for years, right?

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, no, it's been around for years. And it had sort of a explosion on TikTok back in 2023, where like, the kids knew about it. But now, it's kind of pushing to X and like, you know, people in your demographic a little bit, so...

• 6:15Adam Friedland?

  So shut up, man. What does that mean, demographic?

• 6:17Speaker 01

  Like old cells?

• 6:18Adam Friedland?

  What is my, what is, what is my demographic?

• 6:20Speaker 01

  Old cells.

• 6:21Adam Friedland?

  Old cells?

• 6:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:22Adam Friedland?

  What does that mean, celibacy? See, I get pussy, shut the fuck up. I get mad pussy.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  No, it's not like-

• 6:28Adam Friedland?

  Even when I was poor.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  That's just one of the terms that we use.

• 6:31Adam Friedland?

  My sexual market value is just through the roof.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  We'll just add "sell" to the end of a descriptor.

• 6:36Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 6:37Speaker 01

  It's old "sell."

• 6:38Adam Friedland?

  So what is your role in this ecosystem? How would you define your, the place that you exist within that?

• 6:45Speaker 01

  I would say I'm kind of the cultural leader in the looks-maxing world, you know? Because not a lot of people are super well-versed. You know, they're not willing to go the distance, do whatever it takes, kind of, to ascend through any and every mechanism out there available to them. So I was like, "Okay, let's, you know, take this to its logical conclusion." You know, with biohacking, with, you know, whatever form of ascension necessary.

• 7:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Are there other, like, are there ops that are trying to come for that number one spot? Do you have to defend the throne?

• 7:20Speaker 01

  Not that I know about.

• 7:21Adam Friedland?

  Are you the hottest guy? Is that what you're saying?

• 7:23Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 7:23Adam Friedland?

  No.

• 7:24Speaker 01

  Well, that's just a-

• 7:24Adam Friedland?

  You just know the most about looks-maxing?

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Right. Well, that's, that's the goal of the game, right? Is to mog other people, right?

• 7:31Adam Friedland?

  Tell, tell the boomer sales about what that is.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  So mogging is essentially just, you know, outperforming them, looking better than them, and just sort of dominating, right? It came from something called "a mog," which was alpha male of the group. Then it was shortened to just "mog." So that's kind of like the term we use when someone is just like outshining another person in like a photo, or whatever. So if that comes along and happens to me, right? That's just kind of like almost biblical, you know?

• 8:00Adam Friedland?

  Have you been mogged by another, by another man?

• 8:03Speaker 01

  I've definitely been mogged, yeah.

• 8:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. How does it feel to get mogged?

• 8:06Speaker 01

  It's not a great feeling.

• 8:07Adam Friedland?

  It feels bad, yeah. It's just that a guy's more beautiful than you, or?

• 8:12Speaker 01

  Just, uh, it could be through, you know, a whole plethora of different things. Maybe they have more money than you. They could money mog you, they could status mog you.

• 8:20Adam Friedland?

  Okay. Do you only chill with handsome guys?

• 8:23Speaker 01

  No, I know, I chill with the.

• 8:25Adam Friedland?

  You have normie friends?

• 8:27Speaker 01

  I do have normie friends.

• 8:28Adam Friedland?

  And what's your perception of those guys? That they're like, you feel bad for them?

• 8:32Speaker 01

  Um, I try not to think about it too much.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  It's kind of just like, the only thing that I'm kind of talking about when I discuss,

• 8:42Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  you know, looks maxing and the importance of looks is, you know, you could try your hardest not to acknowledge someone being ugly or good looking, but at the end of the day, it's a subconscious bias that everyone's gonna have, and it's unavoidable, right? So, just because I know the exact facial ratios that make someone good looking or not good looking, it doesn't mean that everyone doesn't instinctually know them already.

• 9:05Adam Friedland?

  It makes sense to me, the basic premise that society rewards by attractiveness, right?

• 9:12Speaker 01

  Yes, correct.

• 9:12Adam Friedland?

  It's kind of obvious, right?

• 9:14Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 9:14Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Do you think it's like a revolutionary concept? Because it's like, you're just saying something that's always existed, right?

• 9:20Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, no, I think it's quite logical, and that's why I would say that most of my messaging is so well received is, because it seems to me so beyond obvious that you're better looking, you have better treatment in almost every aspect of life. And this is something that's also quite well researched, right? You know, you look at prison sentencing for good looking people versus people who are less attractive. It's quite clear that it's a huge advantage to have in life.

• 9:44Adam Friedland?

  You think you beat the case recently because you're a hottie?

• 9:47Speaker 01

  No comment.

• 9:48Adam Friedland?

  No comment. But did you like, you pumped before you walked into the courthouse?

• 9:54Speaker 01

  No, I didn't pump.

• 9:55Adam Friedland?

  Did you wear something slutty so the judge could see?

• 9:57Speaker 01

  Uh, no, I was fixing my hair in that one mirror.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  The curved one, yeah, in the courthouse.

• 10:04Adam Friedland?

  I would throw your ass away for life, personally, yeah. To ugly jail, I'd send you to ugly jail.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  Brutal.

• 10:10Adam Friedland?

  I'm just playing, I'm just playing, dog. Wait, so you came with your boys, that's your camera guy?

• 10:16Speaker 01

  Uh, temporary.

• 10:17Adam Friedland?

  Why? You're about to fire him?

• 10:19Speaker 01

  No, no, no. My, my other, uh...

• 10:21Adam Friedland?

  What's your name? Come up and say, say what up to the crowd, or to the audience, yeah.

• 10:25Speaker 04

  Joritz.

• 10:25Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, say, we come up and say hi.

• 10:27Speaker 04

  You wanna come up?

• 10:27Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, say name, age, uh, body count.

• 10:30Speaker 04

  Go for it.

• 10:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Ha, ha, yeah, yeah. You don't have a body count?

• 10:34Speaker 04

  I'm Joritz, uh...

• 10:36Speaker 01

  Social Security number.

• 10:37Speaker 04

  Twenty-one, and, uh, body count like lower double digits, something like that.

• 10:40Adam Friedland?

  Lower double digits, like ten.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't really count.

• 10:43Adam Friedland?

  Lower double digits is a bizarre way to say that.

• 10:46Speaker 04

  Well, double digits implies like fifties, so that's too high.

• 10:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:50Adam Friedland?

  Okay, so what's your body count?

• 10:52Speaker 04

  I don't count.

• 10:52Adam Friedland?

  Do you guys ever run two mans together, or no?

• 10:55Speaker 04

  Not yet, not yet.

• 10:56Adam Friedland?

  Not yet. One day.

• 10:57Speaker 04

  Well, two mans like threesome.

• 10:58Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, one day, like a devil's three-way with you and your, you're in the watch out right now. Okay, sorry, uh, I was just like... Let's get back into you. I, I would, like, cause it's been like really fucking fast, your ascent, right?

• 11:11Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 11:11Adam Friedland?

  Mr. B says you're about to be the number one guy. I saw a clip.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  Yes, he said that if he were to invest in any content creator who's up and coming, it would be myself. I'm not really too sure what that means, but...

• 11:23Adam Friedland?

  It sounds like a little bit sinister, a little bit, yeah.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  Maybe a little bit, but...

• 11:27Adam Friedland?

  Dude, that guy kinda tortures poor people, don't you think?

• 11:29Speaker 01

  I don't know too much about that. That's been speculated. No, I think people just kinda call into question stuff about some of the budgeting, maybe not being the greatest.

• 11:38Adam Friedland?

  What does that mean, though?

• 11:38Speaker 01

  Well, so they're doing like the, the team water thing, right, in Africa, where it's like a charity project?

• 11:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, for Africa.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  The wells, and people were like, is forty million dollars really necessary? And, you know, personally, I have no idea how any of this shit works.

• 11:52Adam Friedland?

  It costs less for the wells?

• 11:52Speaker 01

  And, well, that's what people are speculating.

• 11:55Adam Friedland?

  You got a bad deal.

• 11:55Speaker 01

  I have, I have no fucking idea, quite honestly. I don't think anyone has any idea how much it costs to, you know, run a, a water project in Africa.

• 12:03Adam Friedland?

  And the interesting thing that you talk about is kind of like how economy that you were presented with at your age, the world that you were promised wasn't a better future, right? Uh, like, how would you explain that?

• 12:16Speaker 01

  So essentially, what I always say is, um, you know, looks maxing is just another version of self-improvement.

• 12:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  And I'm simply stating that in terms of ascending your sexual market value, which means, you know, how valued you are.

• 12:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  Uh, by women, how easily you're gonna succeed in the dating market. It's a lot easier to improve your looks, uh, and improve your SMB by that metric than it is to overcome, you know, certain disparities with your finances or improving your status.

• 12:49Adam Friedland?

  Uh.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  Because what needs to be accomplished is so much greater than people could ever imagine to have equal results. Right? So it's like, let's say you ascend to making even seven figures a year. It sounds like an incredible number, and it is.

• 13:03Adam Friedland?

  When you're a kid, you're like, that's the most money ever.

• 13:05Speaker 01

  True, real. I mean, especially when you live in big cities. Uh, so that's the thing, right? People get to these like insanely, uh, good milestones, and then they're expecting these results, and they're not coming.

• 13:16Adam Friedland?

  Like getting pussy, you mean, or like?

• 13:18Speaker 01

  Well, the fact of the matter is, uh, looks are valued a lot greater in these big cities with how shit the economy is. That it's really not getting you as far as you think, you know?

• 13:27Adam Friedland?

  You could just also just move to New York, cause there's like so many gay guys that there's just more straight women than straight guys. It's a hack.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  Or you could just looks max.

• 13:35Adam Friedland?

  Have you seen Seinfeld before?

• 13:37Speaker 01

  No.

• 13:37Adam Friedland?

  George Costanza was like on dates with elevens. And it's real. It's real. That's actually what happens.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  I know. For any of the pop culture references, we are around twenty years apart. No.

• 13:49Adam Friedland?

  You don't know any shows or movies?

• 13:51Speaker 01

  Not, uh, not like anything before like 2015.

• 13:56Adam Friedland?

  So like Transformers like four?

• 13:58Speaker 01

  No.

• 13:58Adam Friedland?

  No.

• 13:59Speaker 01

  Like this.

• 14:00Adam Friedland?

  What's your favorite movie?

• 14:01Speaker 01

  Favorite movie? Oh, that's a tough one.

• 14:02Adam Friedland?

  Or Jester. Movies are Jester?

• 14:04Speaker 01

  Movies are kinda Jester. And sports.

• 14:07Adam Friedland?

  Sports is, oh yeah, you hate sports.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, movies I could, you know, put up with every once in a while.

• 14:12Adam Friedland?

  What's, what's the best one?

• 14:15Speaker 01

  Let me think. The most enjoyable movie?

• 14:18Adam Friedland?

  Dude, you gotta not go back to Miami. Just come chill with me and the lads tonight.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  And just watch movies?

• 14:24Adam Friedland?

  Have you seen Moneyball?

• 14:25Speaker 01

  I have, that's a good movie.

• 14:26Adam Friedland?

  So us, that movie. So us, have you seen it? I love it.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like the, uh, the movie Limitless.

• 14:32Adam Friedland?

  You kinda are a limitless style guy.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. Is that kind of what having like a stack is? Is, is like being limitless, Justin Timberlake? Or who's the guy in Limitless?

• 14:42Speaker 01

  Uh, Bradley.

• 14:43Adam Friedland?

  Bradley Cooper.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it kinda feels that way when you first start taking, uh, stimulants.

• 14:49Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:49Speaker 01

  A little bit.

• 14:50Adam Friedland?

  For me, I just write long emails to people that I haven't talked to in four years. So you grew up outside the city, Hoboken?

• 14:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 14:58Adam Friedland?

  Um, and you, you've been staying with your family?

• 15:01Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 15:02Adam Friedland?

  Are you close with them?

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I talk to them, uh, a fair bit, just online usually. I haven't seen them in person for about a year before this week.

• 15:12Adam Friedland?

  You talk to them online? What do you mean?

• 15:13Speaker 01

  Like, just over the phone.

• 15:15Adam Friedland?

  Oh, that's on the phone, that's not online?

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:17Adam Friedland?

  Uh, you have a sister, younger sister?

• 15:18Speaker 01

  I do.

• 15:19Adam Friedland?

  Are you close with her?

• 15:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:20Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. How many years apart?

• 15:22Speaker 01

  Um, she is turning sixteen.

• 15:24Adam Friedland?

  So four years?

• 15:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:25Adam Friedland?

  Me and my sister are four years.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  Okay, yep.

• 15:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, we gotta fucking protect our, our sisters.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  Indeed.

• 15:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, my sister is my dog. We're like very close. Do you like Springsteen?

• 15:36Speaker 01

  Uh, who?

• 15:37Adam Friedland?

  Bruce Springsteen, he's like New Jersey. He's like a rocker. Dude, I gotta put him on his songs, I have heard him on his movies. We gotta movie max and song max at some point, the two of us, as dogs. Your parents are also, uh, uh, they're, uh, bodybuilders, is that right?

• 15:53Speaker 01

  Back in the day, before I was born, you know?

• 15:56Adam Friedland?

  They were competitive, like Mr. Olympia?

• 15:59Speaker 01

  Uh, no, not that, like, that, that's the top of the top competition.

• 16:03Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 16:03Speaker 01

  You know, just, uh, local stuff, you know?

• 16:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, Jersey.

• 16:07Speaker 01

  My mom.

• 16:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, you're marvelous.

• 16:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, not my dad.

• 16:09Adam Friedland?

  You have a jacked mom?

• 16:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, before I was born.

• 16:12Adam Friedland?

  Whoa, I wonder what it would be like to have a jacked? What was it like to have a jacked mom?

• 16:16Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 16:18Adam Friedland?

  You don't know?

• 16:18Speaker 01

  Well, it was before I was born.

• 16:20Adam Friedland?

  Oh, before you were born?

• 16:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:21Adam Friedland?

  Were you, you had hot parents?

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Uh, that's kind of a weird question.

• 16:27Adam Friedland?

  I had a hot mom and a disgusting father, yeah. I'm fine saying it, it's, I, I did the measurements on their eyes and stuff.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 16:36Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Did your dad teach you how to work out?

• 16:38Speaker 01

  No, I kinda just figured it out on my own. Uh, cause we had a home gym that I would just dick around in when I was growing up. And then I got my first gym membership. Um, and kind of would just watch like, you know, various.

• 16:53Adam Friedland?

  Rich Piana?

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Rich, yes.

• 16:54Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, he was a night, he was a psycho. I loved him.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I loved Rich too. Unfortunately, um, ninety-nine percent of the shit he was doing is uh, the complete opposite of what the literature suggests.

• 17:06Adam Friedland?

  I can't believe it. I can't believe that he was doing the, rest in peace, you fucking god.

• 17:12Speaker 01

  He was a great guy, but his mentality.

• 17:14Adam Friedland?

  Did he die from steroids or, can he die from steroids?

• 17:19Speaker 01

  I come, it definitely had a, a role in uh, his passing unfortunately, but you can die from steroids, yes. It's putting a strain on your organs, you know, so uh, when I talk about steroids and testosterone usage, it's, you know, put into the same category as these bodybuilding guys who are dying, you know, prematurely. But it's not a binary thing, right? It's extremely dose dependent. So when you're talking about TRT or slightly above that, that's not comparable with bodybuilders who are using, using about, you know, ten or twenty times the dosage.

• 17:52Adam Friedland?

  Your dick gets smaller or your balls?

• 17:54Speaker 01

  Your balls.

• 17:55Adam Friedland?

  Your balls gets smaller?

• 17:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:56Adam Friedland?

  It kinda makes your dick look bigger probably.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  Correct, yes.

• 17:58Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  Proportionality, yeah.

• 18:01Adam Friedland?

  It's probably true, yeah. I should do, dude, I have long balls.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  How, wait, what?

• 18:06Adam Friedland?

  Nothing. Uh, when did you swipe your V, like eleven probably?

• 18:09Speaker 01

  No, sixteen.

• 18:10Adam Friedland?

  Sixteen? Alright, that's a responsible age. Yeah.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  I thought so.

• 18:14Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, so you got into looks maxing prior to, to.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah.

• 18:20Adam Friedland?

  You're getting chicks, yeah. Was that a motivation, those like message boards?

• 18:24Speaker 01

  That was, but you know, that wasn't necessarily the only thing I was thinking about at the time. It was more just like an objective, this will improve the quality of my life mentality.

• 18:34Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  And that was just one of the results of that, I guess you could say.

• 18:38Adam Friedland?

  When did you start, like fourteen?

• 18:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:40Adam Friedland?

  Okay. Were you in covid lockdown?

• 18:43Speaker 01

  I was.

• 18:44Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 18:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:45Adam Friedland?

  Did it suck?

• 18:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, that was when I was uh, eighth grade and freshman.

• 18:49Adam Friedland?

  Fucking sucks. You had to like be at home with your parents all the time?

• 18:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:54Adam Friedland?

  If I like couldn't see my friends every day, it would just fucking suck. Yeah, so you got like you were online a lot during lockdown.

• 19:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I was uh, I was definitely uh, on the internet, probably fourteen hours a day.

• 19:08Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  Yep, video games, whatever.

• 19:11Adam Friedland?

  We don't talk about it enough, like culturally, about how that sucked for kids.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't really think it was uh, that bad for most people, not gonna lie, especially this generation. I think uh, a lot of people just got to sit on their Xbox all day, not have to do any schoolwork. I don't really think that anyone was uh, too upset by the whole process.

• 19:33Adam Friedland?

  But it probably like, made it harder like, to be like, socialized, right?

• 19:37Speaker 01

  Well, I wasn't doing that anyway.

• 19:40Adam Friedland?

  Were you a loner growing up?

• 19:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:42Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Your obsession prior to looks back, say was Nerf guns?

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Um, no, that was just one.

• 19:48Adam Friedland?

  What's that all about?

• 19:49Speaker 01

  That was one when I was like, you know, eight or nine years old.

• 19:52Adam Friedland?

  How many Nerf guns you have?

• 19:53Speaker 01

  Not anymore.

• 19:55Adam Friedland?

  Come on dude, you talk about it dude, we're all.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  I said it one time, but that's good research.

• 19:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I know everything about you, dog. Wait, did you get obsessed with things growing up? Was that like an aspect of your?

• 20:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was kind of the point I was, I was trying to make.

• 20:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. What other things were you obsessed with?

• 20:11Speaker 01

  Um.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  I was pretty obsessed with like, GTA V, I would say.

• 20:21Adam Friedland?

  Obviously, fire.

• 20:22Speaker 01

  I rotted on that for hours a day, like, minimum ten hours, every single day during covid. So, uh, it'd just be that kind of stuff, just getting super hyper fixated, random shit.

• 20:34Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  So.

• 20:35Adam Friedland?

  I think that's pretty normal, video games, for kids.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess, but just only playing one thing for, I, I have no idea.

• 20:45Adam Friedland?

  I play sports games, because I'm cool.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah.

• 20:48Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, FIFA, 2K.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I wish I was that cool.

• 20:53Adam Friedland?

  I don't trust a guy that doesn't like sports, honestly. You can't trust a guy that doesn't like sports. You can't trust a guy that doesn't, goes on seven dick appointments a week. Do you have seven dick appointments a week? That would suck. It's a lonely feeling, actually, being one of those guys.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 21:09Adam Friedland?

  Nothing. Bro, what do you guys, is your camera guy, do you guys, are you roommates? Yup. Yeah?

• 21:16Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 21:17Adam Friedland?

  Where, Brickell?

• 21:18Speaker 01

  No, thank god.

• 21:19Adam Friedland?

  Where do you, where do you live, in Miami?

• 21:21Speaker 01

  Um, just no comment, but not, not Brickell.

• 21:25Adam Friedland?

  Oh no, yeah, I don't want to do docs, yeah.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  I would say that Brickell is probably the worst place that you could possibly live if you're an influencer.

• 21:33Adam Friedland?

  Cause it's all influencers.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  It's all wannabe influencers.

• 21:36Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  Who want to stop you for a street interview when you're trying to get a coffee in the morning.

• 21:40Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, like do one of those things?

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, uh, incessant, yeah.

• 21:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. What's your, would you, would you let your girl get a train run? You know, that's what they always say.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, for a...

• 21:52Adam Friedland?

  For a million dollars, and I'm like, obviously, I would let, I'd do it for free. Yeah, I guess like, what's the genesis behind like, the boards? Did it grow out of like, incel and pua shit, like, was that right?

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:05Adam Friedland?

  Did you, did you interact with that kind of shit first?

• 22:08Speaker 01

  That was before my time, that was kind of when I was like, born was when it was like, all conceptualized on the internet.

• 22:14Adam Friedland?

  So the genesis behind it was like, if you're involuntary celibate, you're like, "I'm actually not gonna accept this, I'm gonna become a like, piece of ass, and then I'll get girls?"

• 22:24Speaker 01

  That was the idea behind it. It was more so like, identifying...

• 22:27Adam Friedland?

  It's the most obvious thing in the world.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  I think it was more so just identifying why people were incel, and then it kind of transitioned to, okay, how can we fix this now?

• 22:36Adam Friedland?

  Uh, have you ever been in love?

• 22:38Speaker 01

  Um, that's a tough question, you know? I, I don't know.

• 22:43Adam Friedland?

  It's awesome. It's the ultimate, honestly, it feels great. But it feels crazy, it feels like you're taking crazy pills sometimes. It's like, what are we even doing?

• 22:55Adam Friedland?

  I think you've been in love. I feel like you're capping. That's cap. I can see on your face.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Well, I just said I don't know.

• 23:01Adam Friedland?

  You don't know. So you thought it could be love?

• 23:04Speaker 01

  I have no idea.

• 23:06Adam Friedland?

  Do you think that your career is complicated, like having like a stable relationship?

• 23:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure.

• 23:13Adam Friedland?

  You had a girlfriend recently?

• 23:14Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 23:15Adam Friedland?

  And did it make it tough?

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, certainly. It's kind of not really possible to do what I do just because of the hours. Like, you know, with all this kind of production-oriented stuff where you're kind of running a show, it's a little less time devotion than like the streams. Like, the streaming hours are beyond brutal. And the shit that I do on stream isn't something that most girls would want to be a part of.

• 23:46Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, like hoes, like flirting with you. Yeah, from brickle. Brickle type style hoes.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  Brickle hoes.

• 23:52Adam Friedland?

  Trying to do street work views. Do you ever worry that you'll be like, you'll get so hot that you'll be hotter than your girlfriend? Because you don't want to be hotter than your girlfriend.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  Why?

• 24:03Adam Friedland?

  Because it's like, what, you want to date? No.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  It's like typically how it is in modern dating.

• 24:09Adam Friedland?

  Really? Not for me. Not at all, dude. She is an idiot. I can't believe she's, she's gonna wake up one day and be like, what the hell have I been? Well, yeah, I guess there is an aspect of dating that is like courtship, right? Like, it's not sexy if someone is pursuing you, right? Like, it's more sexy if you have a crush on somebody, you want to like, you know, like be charming and get them to like you.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  Right, and women are just outrageously hypergamous.

• 24:41Adam Friedland?

  What does that mean?

• 24:42Speaker 01

  It means that they're trying to date above their looks level to a ridiculous degree.

• 24:46Adam Friedland?

  You gotta move to New York, dude. You see some of the gargoyles with the just elevens, dude. It's, this is a different world.

• 24:53Speaker 01

  Well, that's because there's a lot of people in New York who are like...

• 24:56Adam Friedland?

  Gay, gay guys, yeah.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  I was gonna say, money maxers, like, you know, finance.

• 25:02Adam Friedland?

  Not even.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  As a whole, right?

• 25:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  What is true about women is they are hypergamous. They're dating above their looks level. And if they're not, if they're better looking than the guy, it can 99% of the time be attributed to either money or status.

• 25:18Adam Friedland?

  They're way better looking. They've got titties and asses.

• 25:20Speaker 01

  That's why I don't really understand when people give anecdotes on breaking these rules. When it's like, yeah, as a whole, we're looking at a society here, not, you know, where are you able to get with a chick who's hotter than you?

• 25:34Adam Friedland?

  I don't know. It's just like, they like it kind of a little bit if we're like a little ugly sometimes.

• 25:41Speaker 01

  No.

• 25:43Adam Friedland?

  I think, yeah. Bro, I'm...

• 25:46Speaker 01

  Well, you're also a millionaire.

• 25:49Adam Friedland?

  Billionaire, billionaire.

• 25:50Speaker 01

  Billionaire. Oh, wait, I did see someone say, is that true?

• 25:52Adam Friedland?

  Why do they say billionaire? Who tweeted that, that I'm a billionaire?

• 25:55Speaker 01

  I don't know. I was like, is that true?

• 25:58Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I'm a billionaire, dude.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  But, you know, as a whole, these rules are true and these are rules that you should kind of...

• 26:03Adam Friedland?

  I don't think they're true, dude. I think you're making up things.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  They absolutely are. No, I don't think so.

• 26:07Adam Friedland?

  I'm telling you, dude, all my friends' girlfriends are hotter than them.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  Are all your friends rich?

• 26:13Adam Friedland?

  Steven's roster. Steven, no, not at all.

• 26:18Adam Friedland?

  Back me up, Steven.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  And that's another common cope, is people just don't know how to properly rate individuals' attractiveness. Because they'll score women a lot higher, because it's like, yeah.

• 26:30Adam Friedland?

  Because they're hot.

• 26:31Speaker 01

  Exactly, but when you actually know the objective measurements, it doesn't become about sexual attraction, it's about mathematics. And you're able to be a lot more analytical with, you know, rating people.

• 26:43Adam Friedland?

  But what's sexy about math?

• 26:45Speaker 01

  Well, it's about figuring out attractiveness.

• 26:48Adam Friedland?

  I don't need to know the math on a pair of tits, you know?

• 26:51Speaker 01

  Well, it's about the faces. And at the end of the day,

• 26:53Adam Friedland?

  The face, yeah.

• 26:55Speaker 01

  You see a girl, you think she's hot. It's the same, but we're just trying to identify why. You know, why you have that subconscious instinct? You know, but why? What makes a face good? What makes a face bad? That's the kind of stuff that I'm just explaining to people.

• 27:08Adam Friedland?

  Because I think girls are hot. I sometimes get horny for them.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  There you go. Well, we're just talking about why.

• 27:13Adam Friedland?

  I've been horny for them my whole life, dude. Even before I could bust, dude, I've been horny for them. Anyway, let's not get carried away. Can you break it down for me, so what are these measurements? And like, how have they... Is it crowdsourced? Is it like, the community's kind of determined like a...

• 27:29Speaker 01

  They do a lot of surveys on this stuff.

• 27:30Adam Friedland?

  PSL, it's called PSL?

• 27:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:32Adam Friedland?

  Okay.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  So it comes from a bunch of different sources, you know, even something like the mid-face ratio. Tracks back to ancient Greece, but a lot of it is, you know, attractiveness surveys. Scientists determining what is the most ideal measurement.

• 27:48Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  Right, and you take all these measurements and you come up with a total facial harmony score.

• 27:54Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  And that kind of is able to be gauged on how attractive someone is.

• 27:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  There's other things that play a role, like phenotype, um, you know, and if you were to extend it to just the full body and height and frame, things like that. Um, so there's a lot that goes into it, but it's all very objective.

• 28:12Adam Friedland?

  And this is kind of something that's like the community has debated and kind of like a...

• 28:17Speaker 01

  It's not like, that makes it sound like it's just a bunch of autists on forums, kind of debating numbers.

• 28:21Adam Friedland?

  I'm not saying that, I'm just...

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Well, no, I know, I'm just...

• 28:24Adam Friedland?

  There's no like guru, there's no like Ross Jeffries who's teaching his system.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  No, it's not like one guy's opinion.

• 28:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 28:29Speaker 01

  Um, you know, it's all very well researched.

• 28:32Adam Friedland?

  Do you know who Ross Jeffries is?

• 28:33Speaker 01

  I don't.

• 28:34Adam Friedland?

  He's like the first pickup artist guy. In 15, when we were 15, my friend Tommy was like, "Dude, I'm sick of not fucking." I was like, "We all are, dude." And he's like, "I downloaded these lectures from Kazaa of this guy Ross Jeffries."

• 28:46Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 28:47Adam Friedland?

  And I was like, "What the...?" Like, "You're not gonna get pussy from lectures." And he fucked at school, like, three days later. Literally at school. Literally, it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. And then he started dating that girl and he saved her in his phone as bitch.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  Bitch.

• 29:02Adam Friedland?

  It was rude, quite rude. So, just explain to me what like the PSL kind of like, you know, layman's terms, because I'm like, not very smart, but like...

• 29:12Speaker 01

  Well, PSL was, uh, three...

• 29:14Adam Friedland?

  There's four categories?

• 29:16Speaker 01

  Sorry?

• 29:16Adam Friedland?

  It's an eight-point scale, right?

• 29:18Speaker 01

  Right.

• 29:18Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. So how's that determined?

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Um, so that's just a different rating system that came from the community, and those are just, PSL is three, like, look-ism-oriented forums and, you know, like pickup artist-type things. So, the idea behind it is that there's no, there's no such thing as a 10, and the highest rating was an eight. Now it's kind of been skewed to match the decile scale, so it's not completely what it was...

• 29:47Adam Friedland?

  What's the decile scale?

• 29:48Speaker 01

  Like out of ten?

• 29:49Adam Friedland?

  Out of ten, oh yeah.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  So people will kind of just try to like make it translatable when that was never really the intention. There was a reason there was no nine and ten included in the scale. You know, so that's kind of just what it comes down to.

• 30:02Adam Friedland?

  What are the three categories?

• 30:04Speaker 01

  The three categories of what?

• 30:06Adam Friedland?

  You said there were three standards.

• 30:07Speaker 01

  No, it's just three forums that PSL stands for.

• 30:10Adam Friedland?

  What was that, what does it stand for?

• 30:11Speaker 01

  Uh, pick up artist hate, um, slut hate and look-ism.

• 30:16Adam Friedland?

  Slut hate?

• 30:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:18Adam Friedland?

  What do they say, just fuck girls?

• 30:20Speaker 01

  Well, that's what the forum was called.

• 30:21Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:22Adam Friedland?

  Who was on the boards? Was it like kids your age?

• 30:24Speaker 01

  Now it is, yeah, now it's often people who are a little bit younger.

• 30:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 30:28Speaker 01

  Um.

• 30:29Adam Friedland?

  Are there girls on there?

• 30:31Speaker 01

  Sometimes there'll be girls who try to like larp their way into the community. When it's meant to be a male dominated space, uh, or just like a male space in general because women have, uh, just an exponentially easier time living life and sort of getting away with whatever the fuck they want. So, you know, you give them like this whole looks max avenue now to make things even easier. It's just, uh, I don't know, maybe makes the playing board.

• 31:04Adam Friedland?

  But haven't they, they've been look maxing for a long time, no?

• 31:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, but not properly.

• 31:10Adam Friedland?

  Not properly.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:12Adam Friedland?

  So, wait, there's, correct me if I'm wrong, there's normie for guys.

• 31:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:16Adam Friedland?

  Low tier, mid tier, high tier, normie.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 31:19Adam Friedland?

  And then there's Chad, turbo Chad, giga Chad.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  Chad light Chad.

• 31:25Adam Friedland?

  Chad light.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:26Adam Friedland?

  What, what, what are you?

• 31:27Speaker 01

  I don't rate myself.

• 31:29Adam Friedland?

  We're like giga, no?

• 31:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, sure.

• 31:31Adam Friedland?

  Low key.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  We're like giga, yeah.

• 31:33Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. People don't understand what it's like for us to be.

• 31:37Speaker 01

  It's true.

• 31:38Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Is your philosophy that like one can make themself into, uh, Chad?

• 31:44Adam Friedland?

  If they want, no.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  So genetics are gonna play a huge role in everything and what's able to be accomplished. But you know, anyone can improve their looks to a pretty significant degree. If they're willing to do sort of whatever it takes and go with that mentality.

• 32:01Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  But obviously, your base, where you start out, is gonna determine a lot.

• 32:06Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  You know, so you might look smacks your entire life, do everything properly. But if you're someone who just does not have the genetic base to allow for you to be a Chad or anything, you might be a little disappointed.

• 32:20Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. How do you conceive of yourself prior to like going on this transformation? Like, what do you think of that kid?

• 32:27Speaker 01

  No, I'd say it's like a very like linear process to looks max. It's not like a, you know, where you leave your cocoon or whatever, like a butterfly.

• 32:38Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  Or some sort of metamorphosis. It's very slow and steady. So I don't really think you change your, you know, view on, on anything.

• 32:46Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Had you not looks max, you, you think you'd still be a hot guy? You probably would, no?

• 32:51Speaker 01

  Uh, I would say that, you know, obviously, your genetics are gonna play the biggest role in everything.

• 32:57Adam Friedland?

  But you have it, right?

• 32:59Speaker 01

  I don't think I would be as, as good looking, no.

• 33:01Adam Friedland?

  Not as, but like you'd still be a hot guy.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  Uh, I don't know.

• 33:07Adam Friedland?

  But not as hot?

• 33:09Speaker 01

  I, it, it really is hard to, to pinpoint exactly how much, you know, some of the different interventions would have played a role or, you know, where I would have got to.

• 33:20Adam Friedland?

  I know you said you wanted to get double job and you're not gonna do it now? What's double job?

• 33:24Speaker 01

  I still wanna do it, but there's just been a lot of things that have gone down. Just advances your upper maxilla and your lower mandible.

• 33:32Adam Friedland?

  Uh, you just get, your mouth is like, like, turned out, out?

• 33:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:37Adam Friedland?

  Turkey? You're going to Turkey?

• 33:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's just a lot of complications with travel right now that I'm not gonna get into.

• 33:44Adam Friedland?

  You're on the no-fly list?

• 33:45Speaker 01

  No, no. Nothing like that.

• 33:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta go to Turkey.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:50Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. I'll get, I get rhinoplasty.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 33:53Adam Friedland?

  Actually, I like my nose. I used to not like it.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 34:03Adam Friedland?

  I like it. The other thing was leg, leg breaking?

• 34:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was kinda just like a thought experiment. I think people didn't really understand what I was getting at was the reason I was talking about sort of the limb lengthening stuff was just about ROI. And then I kinda started popping off in another area, which was, you know, social media, status, money. And I realized that the ROI was not, you know, not worth it anymore in terms of like ascending my SMB. I was able to just leverage something else.

• 34:39Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. How tall are you now? Six two?

• 34:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. So that's the goal at the end of the day is to maximize SMB. And if you could do so through other areas, you know, go for it.

• 34:49Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, gesturing.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  But at the end of the day, that's gonna be incredibly difficult for someone to have like the status ascension I did.

• 34:57Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Where it makes it comparable.

• 34:59Adam Friedland?

  Can I ask you a question? Is it like, looks maxi a means of like avoiding, like it's called gesturing, but like just like a chat chatting like or like flirting with girls? If you're like so hot, you don't have to talk to them?

• 35:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, it certainly makes it easier to be a dumbass.

• 35:17Adam Friedland?

  To not talk to girls.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 35:20Adam Friedland?

  Also, just about like when I was like a sixteen, like just being so afraid if a girl doesn't wanna kiss me back. Like just like, like wanting to kiss a chick and like how nauseating you feel at that age?

• 35:30Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:31Adam Friedland?

  And like, had that been post Me Too, it probably would have been even scarier, right?

• 35:36Speaker 01

  I've never had to.

• 35:38Adam Friedland?

  I'm just saying like, does that make it scarier? Like, does that make dating or like, or gender relation, like relating to women scarier? For guys your age?

• 35:48Speaker 01

  No.

• 35:48Adam Friedland?

  No? Me Too?

• 35:50Speaker 01

  I've never had any issues.

• 35:52Adam Friedland?

  I'm not saying you got Me Too. No, no, you're not listening to me. I'm saying that it creates a fear. Kids are having less sex now.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  That is true. Yeah, there's a lot of statistics about this.

• 36:03Speaker 01

  Young men are, I'm pretty sure two thirds of young men eighteen through twenty-one haven't had sex in six months. So it's, you know, it's quite brutal. Yeah.

• 36:14Adam Friedland?

  That's crazy. I guess like, let's, let's go into like your fame, right? Like, it's been rapid.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 36:22Adam Friedland?

  What has it been like to like, to become a famous person very quickly?

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Um, well, I don't wanna use the term famous, just kinda well-known, maybe infamous even.

• 36:34Adam Friedland?

  Famous, dude, famous. Say it, dude. Say it with your chest.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 36:37Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, say it, dude.

• 36:38Speaker 01

  Not yet. Hopefully one day, but.

• 36:40Adam Friedland?

  You'll get more famous, but you're very famous.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  Been doing social media for a little bit longer than people realize because I just started streaming and, you know, going super mainstream. But I had been posting and doing content for about a year now, so.

• 36:56Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 36:56Speaker 01

  Which I guess in, you know, the grand scheme of things for social media, that's still, you know, relatively short in terms of like career longevity. But, uh, yeah, so the live streaming started in about November was when it kinda took off. So, yeah, it's been a quick rise from there, but I don't know, I've been adapting.

• 37:15Adam Friedland?

  What do you attribute it to?

• 37:18Speaker 01

  Uh, consistency and it's just, it's new, it's fresh, it's content. You know, people are doing the same shit all the time on Twitch, you know, and no one gives a fuck anymore. It's the same streams, it's like video games, it's just boring, right, but.

• 37:34Adam Friedland?

  I don't watch them.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Exactly, yeah, no, so, and people are realizing that more and more. So, everyone looks for what's new on the internet.

• 37:41Adam Friedland?

  Who's your fanbase? Who's the squad? Do you have a name for the stands?

• 37:47Speaker 01

  Uh, no, not, not really.

• 37:49Adam Friedland?

  What are they called? Clav gang?

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 37:53Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 37:55Speaker 01

  No, no real name.

• 37:56Adam Friedland?

  Really? Is it, it's, it's a lot of guys? It's a lot of young men?

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Surprisingly, it's, uh, actually pretty split down the middle.

• 38:05Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would say in terms of like my live stream viewership, it would be like mostly men, but.

• 38:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  I have a lot of female fans, like, you know.

• 38:16Adam Friedland?

  For being hot, yeah.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  I don't know, I don't know exactly.

• 38:19Adam Friedland?

  Come on, bro, you're, you have SMV, that's why the, the bitches wanna, come on.

• 38:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't, I think it's just from, from TikTok, like, would be most of the female audience. Like, they're not really interacting with.

• 38:31Adam Friedland?

  These girls right here.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  Maybe, yeah.

• 38:36Speaker 01

  TikTok, probably.

• 38:37Adam Friedland?

  Wait, I felt bad for you when I saw that clip of the Orlando Asian kid.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  What's up, homie?

• 38:44Speaker 05

  Yo, you think you can sign my, sell my album?

• 38:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got you, man.

• 38:48Speaker 05

  Big fan, man.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, no worries.

• 38:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, but we've been on your ass since the moment you were streaming, since November.

• 38:53Speaker 01

  Oh, hell yeah, dude. Good stuff.

• 38:55Speaker 05

  You think we can take a stream photo?

• 38:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's do it, man.

• 38:58Speaker 05

  I bet. Alright, in the count of three.

• 39:01Speaker 05

  Three, two, one.

• 39:04Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 39:05Speaker 05

  Love you, man.

• 39:06Adam Friedland?

  That kid sucked.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Oh, man, that is so annoying when, like, I'll be just trying to talk to girls and in the bar or whatever, but, you know, people want to spam a million photos and it's like, I get it and I like all the fans, but if you're dropping game on like a chick IRL, like, people will come up and, you know, kind of distract you or whatever. Yeah, a little bit, by accident, but, you know.

• 39:31Adam Friedland?

  How can you even call yourself the Orlando Asian Mogger when that guy has clearly mogged no one his entire life? He's a liar. He should call himself the Orlando Asian Liar, perhaps.

• 39:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm not really sure if that was like a clip farm or whatnot, but.

• 39:45Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:48Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I guess like, when I found out about you, it's like, I guess you've had like various controversial moments, but like, those have obviously, for me, as like a fucking middle-aged man, like, those are the times that it gets on my, like, algo, right?

• 40:02Speaker 01

  Right, yeah.

• 40:03Adam Friedland?

  And do you, is there a pressure there, I guess, like, to like controversy max?

• 40:08Speaker 01

  Most content creators try to clip farm.

• 40:12Adam Friedland?

  What is clip farm?

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Like, just do stupid shit to go viral, but a lot of the times, like, I won't really be thinking too hard.

• 40:19Adam Friedland?

  It just happens.

• 40:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. The thing is, all those clipping accounts that just went viral for that kind of shit, none of those words are anything that I even understand myself. Like, it's just people making up random shit because they pay clippers based on viewership, so they're just writing dumb shit and like, they'll put filters on your face and stuff.

• 40:38Adam Friedland?

  What words are they saying?

• 40:40Speaker 01

  Like jester gooning. Doesn't like really mean anything.

• 40:43Adam Friedland?

  Do you feel like that's making fun of you a little bit?

• 40:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would say so.

• 40:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Folks, I'm going on the road this weekend. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, everything sold out at the Helium Comedy Club. They added a second show on Thursday. Get tickets while they still last. Also, more dates are announced now. Portland, Oregon, March 27th to the 29th. Tampa, Florida, April 17th to the 18th. San Francisco, California, May 29th to the 30th. I'm also gonna be at the Netflix Is a Joke Fest, May 9th. They added a second show at the Regent Theater. There is a link in the description for tickets and we'll be adding more shows in more cities later this year, so stay tuned. Adam Friedland Show.

• 41:33Adam Friedland?

  And rest in peace, Robert Duvall. I hope you're enjoying the show and if you'd like to support us, please support us here on youtube.com. You can make this show possible, just like all of our members who get access to all of our episodes early. If you join at the second and third tier, you'll get your name in the credits of this fine program. If you'd like to join the Friedland Family Foundation, you can do so by clicking the "Join" button here on youtube.com or by clicking the link in the description. You can also support us on Patreon if you prefer. The link for that is also in the description. This time of year, I'm trying to stay consistent with eating well, but between work, workouts, commuting, cooking isn't just happening.

• 42:15Adam Friedland?

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• 43:43Adam Friedland?

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• 45:06Adam Friedland?

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• 45:53Adam Friedland?

  What percentage do you think when you view society are Thorby versus like Chad? Or like Becky versus Stacy?

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Well, what percent of people are Chad?

• 46:06Adam Friedland?

  Like when you view the world, yeah.

• 46:09Speaker 01

  You know, 0.1 maybe.

• 46:11Adam Friedland?

  0.1, yeah, yeah. Do you, you feel like you occupy that, that percentage?

• 46:18Speaker 01

  No, I don't really like to try to categorize my looks. I just want to look better.

• 46:24Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  That's the message.

• 46:26Adam Friedland?

  You, you aspire to look to, to do more looks maxing?

• 46:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I don't really think the whole rating thing. For some reason, people are goddamn obsessed with figuring out the rating. Ask me for a rating, but dude, just look better. That's, that's all you need to worry about.

• 46:41Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, when you look in the mirror, do you see the imperfections that you want to correct?

• 46:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's not like one of those body dysmorphia type of, you know, reactions where I'm just like, can't even leave the house because I like, you know, my mid-face ratio is off by like 1 millimeter type thing. And there are people like that.

• 47:01Adam Friedland?

  You look good, dude. You're fine, dude.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  There are people like that. I know.

• 47:04Adam Friedland?

  Look at these girls. They're sliding out of their chairs right now.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  So I know what's suboptimal about my face, but I don't really let it occupy.

• 47:13Adam Friedland?

  What is suboptimal about your face?

• 47:15Speaker 01

  Uh, well, you know, there, obviously there's, there's plenty of things, right?

• 47:20Adam Friedland?

  Dude, you're fired, dude. You don't, you've, plenty of things. What are you talking about, dude?

• 47:24Speaker 01

  Well, just being like slight.

• 47:25Adam Friedland?

  What am I then? I should kill myself? What like? You look suboptimal, you look incredible.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  Well, almost no one has.

• 47:31Adam Friedland?

  You look like Superman or something.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  Well, almost no one has a completely perfect face according to science, right? So you could find things that are flaws on anyone, but you know, some of them will be minor and some people will be extremely deformed. So it's just like, it's a whole thing, the whole thing's a spectrum.

• 47:48Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 47:48Speaker 01

  But I don't really think about it too much on a, you know.

• 47:52Adam Friedland?

  So I guess like, what do you do day to day? Like, what's your like, kind of rate, routine?

• 47:58Speaker 01

  A lot of it is pharmacology, right? So I.

• 48:01Adam Friedland?

  Pharmacology, like?

• 48:02Speaker 01

  Like using pharmaceuticals.

• 48:04Adam Friedland?

  Drugs?

• 48:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. So what that would kind of look like is, I don't like the endocrine system, which is like your natural testosterone production, because just in a modern society, there are so many things that are meant to disrupt this process. So my entire mentality is just don't try to fight it with doing these stupid carnivore diets and wearing like this cotton clothes.

• 48:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  It's like, just get off the entire thing and use exogenous hormones.

• 48:31Adam Friedland?

  Okay.

• 48:31Speaker 01

  So that's the first thing that I do is testosterone.

• 48:33Adam Friedland?

  What is that, like a syringe or?

• 48:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. So that's one. The next thing is going to be a GLP-1 agonist.

• 48:41Adam Friedland?

  What is that?

• 48:42Speaker 01

  It's, so I use something similar to Ozempic called Retitratide.

• 48:45Adam Friedland?

  Okay.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  And that's a peptide that basically suppresses my appetite, making it difficult to eat. I don't really think about food too much and because being lean is about 70% of what you could accomplish in terms of looks, max.

• 48:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, really, immediately.

• 49:02Speaker 01

  And then the next thing is, you know, hair loss, because two thirds of men by 21 years old are experiencing some form of male pattern baldness. So avoiding that is really going to be something that's crucial to maintaining those looks.

• 49:17Adam Friedland?

  I agree.

• 49:17Speaker 01

  So taking what's called a five alpha reductase inhibitor. Testosterone converts into dehydrotestosterone through this one enzyme in your body. So you're blocking that process because DHT is going to be a huge problem for your hair. Right? Causes hair follicle miniaturization.

• 49:34Adam Friedland?

  Would you rather lose your hair or your dick? Because I would say dick personally.

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:38Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, fuck, I would look terrible without hair. I'd look sick.

• 49:42Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 49:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. But if you go bald, you could go jacked. You could go Bruce Willis kinda.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  No, that just makes you look like one of those cringe red pill jesters.

• 49:52Adam Friedland?

  I think those, I think they're jesters too.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, I kinda just like to refer back to the quote, like hair is life and if you have no hair, you have no life.

• 50:01Adam Friedland?

  Confucius.

• 50:02Speaker 01

  No, that's actually Saint Moody.

• 50:04Adam Friedland?

  Who's Saint Moody?

• 50:05Speaker 01

  Saint Moody, just some autist from like the black veil space.

• 50:09Adam Friedland?

  Oh, okay. He's not from the Bible.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 50:13Adam Friedland?

  Okay. Yeah, and then you do, so you do like a finasteride or whatever.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Something similar.

• 50:19Adam Friedland?

  Okay.

• 50:19Speaker 01

  Do you test.

• 50:19Adam Friedland?

  Because the T makes you, makes you go bald faster.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:23Adam Friedland?

  It gives you acne.

• 50:24Speaker 01

  The testosterone and its byproduct.

• 50:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  Dehydrotestosterone.

• 50:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. So you just do those three things?

• 50:31Speaker 01

  Uh, no, I mean, we'll, we'll be sitting here for a little while if we go through the whole.

• 50:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. Why don't you go to medical school?

• 50:38Speaker 01

  Well, I got kicked out of school.

• 50:39Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, but whatever. We'll get you back in. I don't, I don't want to be a Jewish mother, but you should go to medical school.

• 50:44Speaker 01

  That's a horrible idea.

• 50:45Adam Friedland?

  Why? You know all this crap?

• 50:47Speaker 01

  Because I'm already.

• 50:47Adam Friedland?

  You could help people doing medical school.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  I would never go back to school. I'm already doing good enough on social media where I, I can't even think about the word school in a serious context.

• 50:56Adam Friedland?

  You could be a doctor. You could be a good, it's a good job, no?

• 50:59Speaker 01

  No, doctors.

• 51:00Adam Friedland?

  But you know all this stuff. Do doctors agree with the stuff you're saying right now?

• 51:04Speaker 01

  Doctors are.

• 51:04Adam Friedland?

  You're, you're rogue.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  I'm telling you, listen to this. These people are literally going to school for 10 years accumulating a retarded amount of debt.

• 51:14Adam Friedland?

  Retarded, yeah.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  Just to make like, you know, a wage that's not really going to elevate you to a position where you could beat any looks disparity. So it just doesn't really make sense to me.

• 51:25Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, but your mom tells the daughter, like you're fired as a doctor.

• 51:29Speaker 01

  If you're gonna take out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of loans, you might as well invest it into surgery rather than going to school.

• 51:37Adam Friedland?

  What if, you could be a plastic surgeon.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  And by the way.

• 51:39Adam Friedland?

  And make bad paper.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  You can actually get college loans and use it for surgery. Um, so this is a method. So I've been, I've been telling people, yeah, you can literally do that. So just misappropriating the funds, it's really not gonna get you in that much trouble. And you'll mog, so you'll be able to sort of get out of it.

• 51:58Adam Friedland?

  Okay, let's, let's do a rapid fire questions, okay? It'll be fun. You were interviewed by Michael Knowles, what do you think of that guy?

• 52:06Speaker 01

  I thought he was very nice.

• 52:07Adam Friedland?

  Okay, nevermind, I mog, I mog when he came on here. He's a nice guy, whatever.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  He is nice.

• 52:12Adam Friedland?

  He just tells trans people they should be eradicated, he's a really nice guy.

• 52:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that's why I just like, I don't like to think about politics, cuz these people get into these manic headspaces over nonsense.

• 52:23Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, they're losers.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  Dude, why?

• 52:25Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, I have politicians on, they're fucking-

• 52:28Speaker 01

  Which ones?

• 52:29Adam Friedland?

  They're jesters, dude.

• 52:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, for real.

• 52:30Adam Friedland?

  I had, uh, I had the mayor, Zoron, have you heard of him?

• 52:34Speaker 01

  No.

• 52:35Adam Friedland?

  He's fire, he's pretty fire.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Zoron?

• 52:38Adam Friedland?

  Zoron.

• 52:40Speaker 01

  Oh, nah, I've never heard of the guy.

• 52:41Adam Friedland?

  He's sick, he's the New York mayor.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 52:44Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  I'm so far removed, I can give a fuck, man.

• 52:47Adam Friedland?

  He's a, he's a, he's got a high sexual market value. Do you jester when you're chilling with your boys? Do you guys, can you jester with guys? Can you just not jester with girls? Is it okay to jester with fellows?

• 52:59Speaker 01

  Dude, honestly, it's okay to jester regardless.

• 53:01Adam Friedland?

  Oh my god, thank you. I, I, when I read that gesturing was cope, it forced me to look in the mirror when I was learning-

• 53:08Speaker 01

  It's just like about, you just have to be kind of conscious of the fact that you're gesturing. That's like the main distinction that needs to be made, cuz some people will jester and genuinely think it's like game or the right approach. Like, if you just wanna be silly, uh, and fuck around, like, that's perfectly fine, in my opinion.

• 53:25Adam Friedland?

  It's fun to make a girl laugh at a joke, though, it's fun.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, but-

• 53:29Adam Friedland?

  It feels good, it's like-

• 53:29Speaker 01

  That's not really jester-maxing, though. Jester-maxing would be like-

• 53:32Adam Friedland?

  Juggling, yeah.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  That, or just like, maybe self-deprecating humor would be like one thing.

• 53:41Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 53:42Speaker 01

  That's like a very jester-max thing to do.

• 53:48Adam Friedland?

  What do you do for fun? What's like, what's...

• 53:52Speaker 01

  Dude, I'm gonna be honest, I don't do anything besides stream.

• 53:57Adam Friedland?

  Come on, bro. You gotta have fun sometimes. You gotta put a movie on with the boys and make jokes about it because it's a bad movie.

• 54:05Speaker 01

  No.

• 54:06Adam Friedland?

  Just try it out. Yo, where's the camera guy? Just, dude, just please, just promise me you'll do that with him. We can try.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, fuck no.

• 54:16Adam Friedland?

  Why fuck no, dude?

• 54:17Speaker 01

  I would rather, the way that I think about it is like, when I'm doing anything off-camera, that's like, an activity, I'm like, I could be streaming this, getting paid, right now.

• 54:25Adam Friedland?

  Ahhh, come on, dude, you can't just make, you gotta have this, you separate a little bit.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  Well, think about it, right? There's literally people who do shit like mini golf and bowling, and like, go and hang out with like, go to dinner dates with girls. Off-stream, they're not getting paid.

• 54:44Adam Friedland?

  Yeah?

• 54:46Speaker 01

  Like dude, doesn't that fuck with you a little bit? Like, there's people who actually do this shit.

• 54:49Adam Friedland?

  You think that that's what people are primarily doing, or... You make dinner with your girl, you put on a girl show.

• 54:56Speaker 01

  Stream it, bro.

• 54:57Adam Friedland?

  You do face... No, I don't, I don't know, I wanna, I actually like, want a private life, and I had to learn that.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  Dude, I want my fucking hourly streaming.

• 55:07Adam Friedland?

  Here's the thing, I think that people are a little, when I look at social media, I think like, people are kind of ignoring the fact that you're 20, right?

• 55:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would say that pretty much every content creator has seemingly got like this, treatment for immaturity, or like, you know, people excuse bad behaviors, but that's never been applied to me whatsoever.

• 55:30Adam Friedland?

  Why?

• 55:31Speaker 01

  I don't know, maybe it's because I just come across as like, more mature, and when I do like, these long-form, like, podcasts, a lot of the time, so people don't realize my age, a lot of the times, and I'm also like, a figure of authority in the looks-maxing space.

• 55:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 55:48Speaker 01

  So they're like, okay, well, we're not gonna give you an easy out on this one.

• 55:51Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  But, it's fine, I don't really, you know, complain about it.

• 55:54Adam Friedland?

  What aspects of life would you not stream? Like, taking a shit? You wouldn't stream, yeah?

• 55:59Speaker 01

  Shower.

• 56:00Adam Friedland?

  Getting pussy, fucking?

• 56:02Speaker 01

  Well, I mean...

• 56:03Adam Friedland?

  Have you streamed getting, having sex?

• 56:06Speaker 01

  You can't do that, like, actually put it on the camera, but I've done it like, with the mic on.

• 56:13Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 56:15Adam Friedland?

  Wait, you're rocking her world? What's it like for a girl having sex with you?

• 56:23Speaker 01

  Like, one minute and then you have to go to a clinic a few days later?

• 56:28Adam Friedland?

  You hit it quick?

• 56:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, I gotta get back to work, I'm the guy, yeah.

• 56:36Adam Friedland?

  You're such a legend, it's crazy.

• 56:38Speaker 01

  Gee, man.

• 56:39Adam Friedland?

  You're such a leggy. Why are girls more flattered about premature ejaculation? If a girl prematurely ejaculated, I'd be like, "I'm the best at sex." What? A girl should be like, "Wow, I was incredible today."

• 56:51Speaker 01

  Dude, it's about my time, right? It's not about...

• 56:54Adam Friedland?

  Oh, so you make yourself bust really fast?

• 56:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, I'm not here to flatter anyone.

• 56:57Adam Friedland?

  So then just jack off to her?

• 56:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

• 57:01Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. Wait, what is the looks maxing?

• 57:04Speaker 01

  You ever do the stranger?

• 57:06Adam Friedland?

  What's the stranger?

• 57:07Speaker 01

  Oh dude, I love telling people about this one.

• 57:09Adam Friedland?

  What is it?

• 57:10Speaker 01

  So basically, you gotta sit on your hand until...

• 57:12Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, classic, yeah, yeah, the stranger, yeah.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  Okay, I was gonna say.

• 57:15Adam Friedland?

  Have you ever done the Tennessee pile driver?

• 57:18Speaker 01

  I kinda wanna know, what is it?

• 57:20Adam Friedland?

  It's you're stepping on a wall and the force is so big that you smash through the wall.

• 57:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 57:27Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. Have you ever done the Darwin?

• 57:30Speaker 01

  The Darwin? Maybe by accident.

• 57:33Adam Friedland?

  You put your soft dick in a girl's mouth and then it evolves.

• 57:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've done that one.

• 57:38Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a fun one. So, do you feel like, or like an anxiety about staying on top? Like, I asked you this earlier, but are people coming for your spot, ever?

• 57:52Speaker 01

  No, I mean, like, there's making good content is kind of like the goal at the end of the day. And I think I'm pretty captivating based on what's been happening with the numbers. So I'm just gonna continue that, continue being myself.

• 58:08Adam Friedland?

  What about Marlin? Who's this Marlin?

• 58:11Speaker 01

  Another streamer?

• 58:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, but he's a hot guy too?

• 58:15Speaker 01

  Uh, I don't know, it's up to you, man.

• 58:17Adam Friedland?

  I don't fucking look at guys, I don't do the math on guys' hotness, dude. Who's the hottest girl?

• 58:24Speaker 01

  The hottest girl?

• 58:24Adam Friedland?

  Ever.

• 58:25Speaker 01

  Ever?

• 58:27Adam Friedland?

  And we're gonna go around the room, get ready.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  Maybe you go first, I don't know.

• 58:34Adam Friedland?

  Denise Richards, that James Bond movie, Doctor Christmas Jones?

• 58:39Speaker 01

  What, the old James Bond stuff?

• 58:40Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, with Pierce Brosnan, yeah. She was an 11. Or the movie Wild Things? My old, yeah.

• 58:47Speaker 01

  The thing about that question is like I'll, I'll kind of flip flop on the answer a little bit.

• 58:51Adam Friedland?

  Who, Sydney Sweetie, you think is number one?

• 58:53Speaker 01

  No, I think that bitch looks like shit.

• 58:55Adam Friedland?

  Really? I saw that clip where you're saying she looks like crap.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. So you baited me to say that.

• 59:01Adam Friedland?

  She got big, have you seen, have you seen the things?

• 59:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:05Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, kind of awesome, no?

• 59:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's just hard to get over that face.

• 59:11Adam Friedland?

  Come on, pause.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  And she's gonna be shooting your head off about some like, political issue.

• 59:17Adam Friedland?

  You think Sydney Sweetie is political?

• 59:20Speaker 01

  Uh, people want her to be.

• 59:21Adam Friedland?

  They want her to be, they want you to be too.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  I know, bro, it's fucking retarded.

• 59:24Adam Friedland?

  Why do people attribute looks passing to being right?

• 59:27Speaker 01

  They just don't know what it is, man, so they're kind of, you know, scrambling to figure out what I'm about and, because it's a whole new thing.

• 59:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, because you're on forums, you say naughty words, so they think it's right wing?

• 59:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's just like any fringe, uh, you know, culture on the internet is, is kind of like edgy and, you know, not something that you would hear just out and about on a day to day basis, so. But it's not necessarily political at all, uh, it's just looks, it's self-improvement.

• 59:57Adam Friedland?

  Who's the hottest chick, dude? Just come on, just tell me.

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  Hottest chick? I think Taylor Hill's pretty good, just a model.

• 1:00:05Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, run, run a pic. Let me see. Come on.

• 1:00:11Adam Friedland?

  She's fire? And you guys think that Matt Bonner is the hottest guy?

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  I said, uh, the highest in terms of the objective, uh, harmony ratios.

• 1:00:22Adam Friedland?

  Matt, from the Spurs, the redhead guy, the three point shooter? Matt Bonner?

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  Let's see. Let's check.

• 1:00:30Adam Friedland?

  She's hot, let me see.

• 1:00:33Adam Friedland?

  Do you, do you take that down, or no?

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  No, man, not yet.

• 1:00:37Adam Friedland?

  Just say what up to her, just DM her or something.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  Couple more fashion shows, maybe.

• 1:00:41Adam Friedland?

  Really? She's a fashion model?

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:43Adam Friedland?

  Just say hi or something.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  Dude, that's the thing that's-

• 1:00:45Adam Friedland?

  You know what you should do? Respond to a story and say, "Damn, bro, she's perf," and then she'll say, "Question mark," and you'll be like, "I meant to send that to my friend."

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  Dude, she descended, though.

• 1:00:53Adam Friedland?

  That's what jesters do.

• 1:00:55Speaker 01

  She descended since, uh, since that photo, so...

• 1:00:57Adam Friedland?

  She ended? She's dead?

• 1:00:58Speaker 01

  Descended.

• 1:00:59Adam Friedland?

  Descended?

• 1:01:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, looks worse.

• 1:01:02Adam Friedland?

  I gotta show you some shit, dude. There's a whole wide world out there outside of male beauty. Peep this, dude, you're gonna love it. Those are nice headphones, too.

• 1:01:12Adam Friedland?

  Check those out. You know this track?

• 1:01:15Adam Friedland?

  Put them on, dude, or you're gonna mess up your hair.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  Not really my style.

• 1:01:25Adam Friedland?

  Come on, dude. Can I put you, I'll play you another track. Not really your style, you're an idiot. Okay, uh, this song will change your life.

• 1:01:39Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, Garden State, dude. She says this song will change your life, and it does. Does your boy know these songs?

• 1:01:46Speaker 07

  Karma Police? Yeah, from Invincible?

• 1:01:49Adam Friedland?

  From what?

• 1:01:51Speaker 07

  The show.

• 1:01:52Adam Friedland?

  What's Invincible?

• 1:01:54Speaker 07

  Oh, you don't know it? It's an animated show.

• 1:01:56Adam Friedland?

  Nah, I don't watch cartoons, bro.

• 1:01:58Speaker 07

  What the fuck, man?

• 1:01:59Adam Friedland?

  You don't fuck with this?

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:02:03Adam Friedland?

  You wanna hear a song that I wrote? Tell me if this is good.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  Do you want me to be honest?

• 1:02:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, be honest, honestly.

• 1:02:09Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:02:11Adam Friedland?

  When you're weary, feeling small.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  A little slow.

• 1:02:19Adam Friedland?

  Keep listening, dude, wait for the hook. Like a bridge over troubled water. Can I ask you another question? What's your favorite animal?

• 1:02:32Adam Friedland?

  Dog?

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:34Adam Friedland?

  Me too.

• 1:02:34Speaker 01

  I have a dog.

• 1:02:35Adam Friedland?

  Me too. What kinda dog?

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:02:38Adam Friedland?

  I have pitbull.

• 1:02:39Speaker 01

  I hate when people ask me that question, like-

• 1:02:41Adam Friedland?

  Why?

• 1:02:42Speaker 01

  They think it's weird if, if you don't know what kinda dog you have.

• 1:02:45Adam Friedland?

  Dude, look at my dog.

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  And that's another, just like, that's why Normie's interacting nice.

• 1:02:50Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. What do you think? I got her from the street.

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  Normies interacting is always so silly to me cuz they're like.

• 1:02:57Adam Friedland?

  What it was like?

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  Like, normal people.

• 1:02:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  Cuz they run into each other and they're like, "Oh, what kinda dog do you have?" As if they give a shit about.

• 1:03:05Adam Friedland?

  That is, and then they go mini golf, yeah.

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  Answer, so yeah, no, I never.

• 1:03:11Adam Friedland?

  Wait, let me see your dog, then. Just be a normie for a second, just be normal, maybe, for a second, dude.

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 1:03:17Adam Friedland?

  Your dog looks, that's your best friend?

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  Um, is that what they say?

• 1:03:24Adam Friedland?

  I don't know, who's your best friend, this guy in the back?

• 1:03:28Speaker 01

  Um.

• 1:03:29Adam Friedland?

  He fucked ten girls, and he said low double-digit.

• 1:03:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I can't even find a picture of my dog.

• 1:03:36Adam Friedland?

  Like, where do you rank male beauty in like, the kinda scale of what's important? Like.

• 1:03:42Speaker 01

  The highest.

• 1:03:43Adam Friedland?

  Like, higher than like, kindness, or something?

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:47Adam Friedland?

  Really? Why is that?

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  Well, because these things are going to be perceived according to the physical, right? So, um, like, all the intangible things like, you know, being kind, or, you know, being funny.

• 1:04:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:05Speaker 01

  That's all going to be haloed by your attractiveness. So, there's no point in really valuing them as separate things when they're all kinda interconnected.

• 1:04:15Adam Friedland?

  Well, like, Mother Teresa, she was a quite, she was a looker, but she was, she's famous for her kindness, right? Like, she didn't need a baseline attractiveness, she was, she was kind, right? Like, you know?

• 1:04:27Speaker 01

  Well, nobody gives a shit about Mother Teresa, I'm gonna be honest with you.

• 1:04:32Adam Friedland?

  People do, no, people, she's, she's, she's famous, yeah.

• 1:04:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, but like, I think people are probably gonna care more about someone in Hollywood, like, a Brad Pitt figure, than they would Mother Teresa.

• 1:04:45Adam Friedland?

  For, cuz he's hotter than her?

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  He probably mogs, yeah.

• 1:04:49Adam Friedland?

  He mogs, he would mog her, that's for sure.

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:52Adam Friedland?

  Since you've maximized your attractiveness, right? The things that I've seen, like, I found out about you from, are like, things like, like, the car, the, you know, the thing last week in Arizona, like, those kinda things, I guess, have those, do you perceive those as complicating your life? Like, you know, like, so it's just like, is the formula of like, maximizing your attractiveness to make everything better, does that necessarily, maybe, does that complicate it?

• 1:05:22Speaker 01

  Well, um, I just have an interesting status, I guess you could say, where I'm like a infamous figure.

• 1:05:29Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  So, you know, where there's a lot of love, and I would say that's ninety-nine percent of the interactions, those aren't the ones that are going viral and headlines as some one dickhead who is a hater and wants to, you know, do some dumbass shit.

• 1:05:48Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? So that's just what goes viral, but that's not the reality of the situation.

• 1:05:52Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:52Speaker 01

  The reality of the situation is, um, you know, I'm talking about men's issues and kind of identifying with that, and no one's been a spokesperson for, you know, the struggle, um, in any meaningful way, I would say. There's a lot of-

• 1:06:10Adam Friedland?

  You're the first.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  Well, there's just a lot of like disinformation, I guess would be the way you could put it, or there's sort of like a key element that's always been missing from the manosphere, uh, and the red pill space, which was that looks are an extremely important thing, and they shouldn't be ignored. So, I think young men, like, feel kind of understood by my message, like, you know, by me.

• 1:06:35Adam Friedland?

  What resonates, you think, with young men?

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Well, because I understand it, right? It's, it's not like I, uh, I have my head super big because I'm famous. It's like, uh, I kind of blew up on social media not that long ago, so I was right there in the struggle.

• 1:06:54Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:54Speaker 01

  You know, I was still working a normal job less than a year ago.

• 1:06:57Adam Friedland?

  Wage cook.

• 1:06:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was wage cooking.

• 1:06:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. What was your last job?

• 1:07:02Speaker 01

  Uh, working at a restaurant.

• 1:07:03Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. If, if, you're, you're close with your sister, right?

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:06Adam Friedland?

  If, uh, someone told her that she was low tier, Becky, or, uh, subhuman, whatever, like, would you want to beat their ass?

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  Well, that'd be like, sort of a cortisol spike, so. The, the expectation for you to do some dumbass shit and like get into fights all the time, I think is just a culture that definitely needs to be added, like, I'm, you know, I'm high class, and I don't do shit like that.

• 1:07:34Adam Friedland?

  In the same sense as Michael Knowles fixating on trans people's lives, like, what is the merit of telling someone that they, that they are nasty, like?

• 1:07:45Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I guess, and I would not really do that unless someone were to be a dickhead to me first. And I think any of the clips where it's just like me, you know, talking to someone in a disrespectful manner. They always cut out the previous part of the interaction where they would just come up and start acting crazy. Like, I'm not.

• 1:08:07Adam Friedland?

  I imagine so.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not like I'm going up to people and being like, "Oh, you're fucking subhuman."

• 1:08:12Adam Friedland?

  I saw a clip where a girl was like trying to flirt with you. She was like, "Why don't you come say hi?" And you're like, "'Cause your fucking cheeks look like shit," or something.

• 1:08:20Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:08:21Adam Friedland?

  You said her mandicular was crappy or something. Be nice to girls, dude, at least.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  I am, I would say.

• 1:08:30Adam Friedland?

  You should be nice to girls.

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  I would say I'm.

• 1:08:32Adam Friedland?

  They're girls, dude.

• 1:08:34Speaker 01

  There's a lot of clips of this, but pretty much every single chick I've met in person was like, "Wow, you're actually a lot nicer."

• 1:08:41Adam Friedland?

  I think as a thesis, the concept that life is exponentially better for people that are good-looking is the most obvious thing in the world, and you're just articulating that.

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:52Adam Friedland?

  And I don't like, to me, that just makes sense, right?

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:08:55Adam Friedland?

  And that's been our, like, what's benefited us in life. Like, that's why we've just, everyone's like, you know, like, it's fine. Like, it's annoying sometimes, right? Like, you know, just girls are like this every time I, you know, publicly masturbating. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But, but like, but beyond that, what I'm saying is, is that like, I guess when I was younger, getting obsessed with something was something that losers did. Like, cool people and hot people could just be normal, right? And that's the fascinating thing about this is like, it was never a cool thing to be obsessed with anything. And I think that that's what I'm trying to grapple with, you know what I mean?

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would not really say that looks-macking is cool. I would say that it's something only.

• 1:09:43Adam Friedland?

  But you're the coolest guy, you're the biggest stripper.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, it's more just that there's a lot more her sides of the internet now. And there's a lot, like, people are just looking for what's new, what's fresh.

• 1:09:58Adam Friedland?

  Have you enjoyed this?

• 1:09:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, no.

• 1:10:00Adam Friedland?

  Dude, I think it's fascinating and I really hope that I'm not condescending.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  No, no, no, I don't get any malicious vibe at all, you know? I would say, dude, I'm not gonna lie, I already kind of forgot.

• 1:10:13Adam Friedland?

  It's fine, dude, don't worry about it. Me too. Yeah, yeah. But it's thrilling to be around me and stuff, right?

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:10:21Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. I'm awesome, right?

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:10:23Adam Friedland?

  I feel the same way about you.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  I appreciate you having me on, thank you.

• 1:10:25Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way, but, I mean, also, like, can, you're braided, right?

• 1:10:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:10:33Adam Friedland?

  You could call me by my, my real name too.

• 1:10:35Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:10:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, Mohammed.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  Mohammed?

• 1:10:37Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, my guy. My guy is awesome.

• 1:10:43Adam Friedland?

  You enjoyed it, guys?

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