Sorry About This One

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• 0:02Speaker 00

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• 0:55Connor Wood?

  There's my leg, there's my leg, there's my damn little... My leg. How are you? Hey, guys.

• 1:01Brooke Averick?

  How are you?

• 1:02Connor Wood?

  How are you?

• 1:03Brooke Averick?

  What's that from?

• 1:04Connor Wood?

  I don't know. How are you?

• 1:06Brooke Averick?

  How are you? Sure, sure.

• 1:09Connor Wood?

  What is that from?

• 1:09Brooke Averick?

  I don't know. How are you?

• 1:11Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 1:12Brooke Averick?

  No, that wasn't it.

• 1:12Connor Wood?

  Let's think.

• 1:13Brooke Averick?

  I honestly don't know.

• 1:14Connor Wood?

  How are you?

• 1:15Brooke Averick?

  It could be The Office.

• 1:17Connor Wood?

  No.

• 1:17Brooke Averick?

  When in doubt.

• 1:18Connor Wood?

  I think this is one of those classic timeless pieces.

• 1:20Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 1:21Connor Wood?

  How are you?

• 1:22Brooke Averick?

  I'm actually...

• 1:23Connor Wood?

  Hang on.

• 1:23Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 1:24Connor Wood?

  I want everyone to picture... Everyone, close your eyes, unless you're driving.

• 1:31Connor Wood?

  I want you to picture your whole life leads up, your life's work leads up to a moment where you've traveled across the country. And you're presenting...

• 1:45Connor Wood?

  Your firstborn, piece of work that's just the beginning of your lineage, your career, your body of work. This is the concrete, the foundation that it's all gonna be built on. And you go on The Today Show, okay? And you present that work to the world, to America, in the morning. The first thing they see when they wake up with their full jerks.

• 2:06Brooke Averick?

  On the third hour, on the third hour.

• 2:07Connor Wood?

  On the third hour. You know, my ass sits there and watches three hours of The Today Show. I told you that. And then I want you to picture heading over to chat with me for two hours, okay? I want you to think about what that must feel like.

• 2:19Brooke Averick?

  You know, I...

• 2:20Connor Wood?

  I have the exclusive interview with Today Show. You may know her from The Today Show.

• 2:25Brooke Averick?

  Today Show alum.

• 2:27Connor Wood?

  Make some noise for Brooke Av... Averick?

• 2:31Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 2:32Connor Wood?

  Averick. Everiche.

• 2:35Brooke Averick?

  Um...

• 2:36Connor Wood?

  Welcome in.

• 2:38Brooke Averick?

  Thank you.

• 2:38Connor Wood?

  How you doing?

• 2:39Brooke Averick?

  So, last we spoke, it's kind of confusing because last we spoke was two days ago in terms of that I saw you and spoke to you two days ago. But in terms of people that are listening to this podcast, the episode that we recorded two days ago, when I said, "I'm not gonna make it out of The Today Show Alive,"

• 2:55Connor Wood?

  Yep.

• 2:57Brooke Averick?

  came out actually after The Today Show as well. So, that's really confusing. But as of in this moment, I just came from The Today Show.

• 3:05Connor Wood?

  It makes sense to go. We recorded on Monday.

• 3:08Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 3:08Connor Wood?

  When I was bald.

• 3:10Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, when you were bald, that was two days ago from where The Today...

• 3:14Connor Wood?

  So, Monday, I'm bald, we record.

• 3:16Brooke Averick?

  Monday, we record, you're bald.

• 3:17Connor Wood?

  Tuesday, we travel to New York.

• 3:18Brooke Averick?

  Yep.

• 3:19Connor Wood?

  Brooke does Today Show.

• 3:20Brooke Averick?

  On Wednesday, which is today.

• 3:21Connor Wood?

  Oh, yes. Tuesday, we travel to New York, we sleep, we wake up, Brooke does Today Show, she heads right from Today Show to record. So, it's Monday, Wednesday podcast, but like both pre... Both post Today Show, which is weird.

• 3:32Brooke Averick?

  Both are post Today Show. The first one...

• 3:34Connor Wood?

  Was pre-recorded.

• 3:35Brooke Averick?

  The first one, I had not yet done The Today Show. And my feeling during that was that I genuinely, in my heart, believed I was going to die, like genuinely die.

• 3:48Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 3:49Brooke Averick?

  On stage. I did not believe there was life after The Today Show.

• 3:52Connor Wood?

  Was there a live audience?

• 3:53Brooke Averick?

  So, I legitimately said goodbye to my cats. Like, I did not think... I thought this was the end for me. There was no live audience. There were a lot of camera people.

• 4:03Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 4:03Brooke Averick?

  So, there's probably like 10 people in the room.

• 4:07Connor Wood?

  Sure. That's a big podcast.

• 4:09Brooke Averick?

  But let me... I want to explain to you like a little bit about like my history with public speaking and being front-facing, so that you can really understand like the severity of this, okay?

• 4:20Connor Wood?

  Yep.

• 4:20Brooke Averick?

  When I was a little girl...

• 4:22Connor Wood?

  Take me all the way back.

• 4:23Brooke Averick?

  I'm gonna take you all the way back. I loved being on stage. I loved being in the school plays, wanted to be an actress. Um, did the plays all through middle... Do you want me to take that tag off for you?

• 4:34Connor Wood?

  I'm gonna get it, but keep talking, cuz you're in the...

• 4:36Brooke Averick?

  Okay. Did the plays all through middle school. Then we get to high school, and my mental health is starting to deteriorate in a different way than it had before. And I was watching Jay Leno.

• 4:49Connor Wood?

  Yep.

• 4:50Brooke Averick?

  This was probably like 2010 or 2011. And I just had this thought, I don't remember who was on Jay Leno, but I thought...

• 5:00Brooke Averick?

  Never in one million years could I put myself in that sort of position and be on a stage like that. And then the next morning, I woke up with the biggest pit in my stomach, and just I had developed late onset stage fright from just receiving that episode of Jay Leno and feeling like that looks to me like the end of the world. Like, I can't ever do something like that. And so, for two years after I saw that episode of Jay Leno, I didn't get up on stage ever. I quit all the plays. It was really sad because that was stuff that I loved to do. My mom had to call my teachers and say, "Don't call on her," because it was literally... I couldn't even answer a question in class.

• 5:41Brooke Averick?

  Like, I just had a permanent puke lump in my throat. And I just kind of like was pretty quiet for two years. And then, you know, I kind of eased myself back into it. I could do like a class presentation, but like I didn't really see myself ever like getting back on a stage again.

• 5:59Connor Wood?

  Sure.

• 5:59Brooke Averick?

  So, that's why when we started the podcast and you were like, "I wanna do live shows," I was like, "Ain't gonna happen, champion."

• 6:06Connor Wood?

  I recall.

• 6:06Brooke Averick?

  Ain't gonna happen, champion. But you know, eventually, few years happened, worked up to it. But keep in mind, Jay Leno was still in the back of my mind.

• 6:15Connor Wood?

  Jay had that much real estate in your brain?

• 6:17Brooke Averick?

  I think that is truly like with an OCD brain, like you have one thought and it just doesn't ever go away. You just ruminate on that one thought over and over again. And for whatever reason, mine is just seeing Jay Leno up there and thinking, "Nope." Like, that just seems like the scariest thing in the world.

• 6:37Connor Wood?

  Do you think it was the Jay of it all?

• 6:38Brooke Averick?

  I have no idea. I just remember seeing him doing a talk show and thinking like, "Never." Like, that feels... That makes my stomach feel really horrible and bad, and I feel like I'm gonna throw up just watching Jay Leno up there. And then... So, the book tour stuff, that was kind of like really shocking that I was able to do that even. And so, when I got this email to do The Today Show, I was like, you know, first person I thought about was Jay.

• 7:09Connor Wood?

  You need to release Jay.

• 7:11Brooke Averick?

  And I said, "You know what? Like, up to this point, like I have been so scared to do every single thing, and I have done it. So, we are gonna do The Today Show. We are gonna push ourselves. And for the past month, I have not slept."

• 7:25Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 7:26Brooke Averick?

  All I have thought about was The Today Show. It really, it almost, it drove me to madness, almost. And I just didn't see a world that... Where I would survive it. Like, I truly believed I was gonna be the first person to projectile puke and faint and die on that stage.

• 7:51Brooke Averick?

  But weirdly, I woke up this morning and I was just like, "Okay." Like, whatever happens, like will happen, you know? And I did take a beta blocker.

• 8:01Connor Wood?

  Oh, good.

• 8:02Brooke Averick?

  Because you know, up until this point, I had been too scared to actually take one. I had been taking them for practice, like in moments in my home, but I had never taken one like when I need to like do something front-facing. But I did take one today, and I do think it helped. But I kind of just got there and I was like...

• 8:18Connor Wood?

  What did it do? Did you notice? Did you feel it?

• 8:19Brooke Averick?

  Yes.

• 8:20Connor Wood?

  Or was it like...

• 8:20Brooke Averick?

  So, usually, like the panic for me, when my heart starts to race and my palms start to sweat, it works me up even more. And I'm like, "So, I am having a panic attack." And then that just makes the panic attack come even faster. But the beta blocker stops those physical symptoms from happening, so I don't get the like, "Okay, well, my heart's already racing and my palms are already sweating, so the panic attack is starting." So, I missed that part, which was really helpful. Like, I was still nervous, but like I didn't have the physical symptoms making me think like it was even worse than it was, you know? So, then I kind of really was just like surrendering myself once I got there. I was like, "Today's the day." Like Hunger Games vibes when you're in the...

• 8:59Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 9:00Brooke Averick?

  When you're in the...

• 9:00Connor Wood?

  Press junk.

• 9:01Brooke Averick?

  When you're in the thing that shoots you up, it's like, "All right, well, I mean, like today is the day." And you know, I got up there, and Jason Sudeikis walked off. I said, "Hello, sir." And he seemed pretty chill, so I was like, "All right, all is good." I sat down with the hosts. Craig Melvin, Dylan, blanking on last name for just a second, I will get back to you, an outroker. And I, you know, I said to them, I said, "Listen, like, what will you do if I faint?" And they were like, "Oh, you're not going to." And, um, but they did say they would cut to a commercial break, which really helped me.

• 9:46Brooke Averick?

  And so, once it started, Connor, and they introduced me, I can't explain what happened in my body.

• 9:54Connor Wood?

  You're so professional.

• 9:55Brooke Averick?

  I said, "I think I love The Today Show."

• 9:58Connor Wood?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:58Brooke Averick?

  And I just kind of started talking.

• 10:02Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 10:03Brooke Averick?

  And Craig was being LOL, like making me feel so comfortable. I heart Craig, like so much.

• 10:10Connor Wood?

  Good.

• 10:11Brooke Averick?

  Um, and it was a lot quicker than I had imagined. I had a lot of talking points, cuz I was recommending books. So, I had a lot of talking points for each book, but they, after like my first talking point, they were like, "All right, next one," because I think they were running behind.

• 10:22Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 10:23Brooke Averick?

  So, that made me feel even better, cuz I was like, "I really don't even have to say everything that I wanted to say." And then, you know, I cracked a few jokes too, even...

• 10:32Connor Wood?

  I'll get into why I couldn't watch, but like...

• 10:35Brooke Averick?

  Cracked a few jokes, and then guess what Craig had said to me?

• 10:37Connor Wood?

  Huh.

• 10:39Brooke Averick?

  Favorite guest of the day.

• 10:41Connor Wood?

  Wow. Well, you know.

• 10:43Brooke Averick?

  Jason Sudeikis, I just left.

• 10:44Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 10:45Brooke Averick?

  Favorite.

• 10:45Connor Wood?

  I don't know.

• 10:46Brooke Averick?

  Favorite.

• 10:47Connor Wood?

  Everyone loves it.

• 10:48Brooke Averick?

  Favorite guest of the day.

• 10:50Connor Wood?

  Well done.

• 10:50Brooke Averick?

  Then Al gave me a big hug.

• 10:53Connor Wood?

  You hugged Al Roker?

• 10:54Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, and then Craig looked at me dead in the eyes. He said, "Come back anytime." I walked.

• 11:00Connor Wood?

  Did you say, "What does that mean?" What does "Come back anytime" mean?

• 11:06Brooke Averick?

  I said, "Okay."

• 11:06Connor Wood?

  "I'll be here tomorrow morning."

• 11:08Brooke Averick?

  I also, like, once Craig was wrapping up and he was like, "We'll go to commercial break," I just looked at the camera and go, "We'll be right back." And that wasn't my line.

• 11:15Connor Wood?

  You did not say that.

• 11:16Brooke Averick?

  I think I did.

• 11:18Connor Wood?

  Oh, we'll need to, we'll need to pull the clip.

• 11:20Brooke Averick?

  No, we don't need to watch it, but...

• 11:21Connor Wood?

  No, I need to see it.

• 11:22Brooke Averick?

  You haven't seen anything?

• 11:23Connor Wood?

  No, I just saw what everyone else posted. By the way, I couldn't go. They run a very tight ship there, even though Brooke has, like, do the golden ticket to, like, go whenever she wants. Like, I was not allowed in the venue because they only...

• 11:35Brooke Averick?

  They only let few people up with me.

• 11:36Connor Wood?

  Yeah. So Brooke had to, Brooke had to bring her team.

• 11:40Connor Wood?

  Fuck them. But yeah, so I was, like, hoping to watch. I'll tell, I'll tell you why.

• 11:46Brooke Averick?

  I, I think I know. I couldn't watch, I wouldn't be able to watch somebody who was nervous do something live.

• 11:51Connor Wood?

  No, Brooke, I can watch you do something. Yeah, I went to the, yeah, I went to your New York show, like, yeah. No, I wanted to watch. I was up.

• 11:58Brooke Averick?

  You know how I get stage fright for people?

• 12:00Connor Wood?

  I was up. I was awake. I texted you.

• 12:02Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, yeah, you did.

• 12:04Connor Wood?

  I was at a hotel last night.

• 12:05Brooke Averick?

  Yeah?

• 12:06Connor Wood?

  Because I...

• 12:07Brooke Averick?

  If I ask why?

• 12:08Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I'll tell you why. So your flight landed well before mine. My original flight, I moved back and then it got delayed two hours. So I ended up landing at about midnight. And I wanted to download something to watch. So downloaded that, like, the Idaho Murders documentary that they just put on Netflix. And it's like a limited series. And, like, I watch stuff all the time, but like, something, obviously, it's unsettling because it's... I guess I never really doubted about, like, something being, like, real and can happen too. And so I was landing in New York.

• 12:47Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 12:48Connor Wood?

  And I go, "There's not a world where I go to my underground apartment tonight. Could not go."

• 12:55Brooke Averick?

  You checked into a hotel?

• 12:56Connor Wood?

  Got a hotel on Hotel Tonight.

• 12:58Brooke Averick?

  Where?

• 12:58Connor Wood?

  Hit Level 13 on Hotel Tonight. And, like, right next to my apartment.

• 13:03Brooke Averick?

  Wow, your apartment's that bad?

• 13:06Connor Wood?

  I couldn't go into it at night, at midnight.

• 13:07Brooke Averick?

  Wow. Are you back there now?

• 13:09Connor Wood?

  Yeah. That's why I was a little bit behind coming here.

• 13:12Brooke Averick?

  Got it.

• 13:14Connor Wood?

  But then my hotel obviously didn't have, like, live TV.

• 13:17Brooke Averick?

  Oh.

• 13:17Connor Wood?

  It just had, like, information.

• 13:18Brooke Averick?

  A hotel not having the Today Show?

• 13:20Connor Wood?

  No, it's, like, all delayed and it's, like, all the new TVs now in hotels are, like, local news, and then Modern Family, Friends or the Office, and then, like, something on Discovery that's, like, not in my wheelhouse to watch. Like, not even, like, Mummies. They're doing, like,

• 13:43Connor Wood?

  Arizona, you know? It's like stuff that, and then... Yeah, so I couldn't watch it. So I texted you, and then I'm like, I'm looking at, like, Hannah, our, our agent's story, and I'm like, "Oh my God, cool." How long was the segment?

• 13:57Brooke Averick?

  It was supposed to be five minutes, but I think it ended up being closer to four because they had gone over.

• 14:01Connor Wood?

  Dang, I want to see it. I'm gonna...

• 14:03Brooke Averick?

  Do you want to? I mean, we can watch it.

• 14:04Connor Wood?

  Oh, it's here. Yeah, please.

• 14:05Brooke Averick?

  But let me, I have to tell you something before it starts. Something, um, something happened. And it's not that bad, but I got really thrown off because at the end, they were supposed to ask me about Phoebe. But Al said, "So tell us about your podcast."

• 14:23Connor Wood?

  Oh my God.

• 14:24Brooke Averick?

  Instead of Phoebe. So I was like, "Oh, shoot." And so then...

• 14:27Connor Wood?

  Our big break!

• 14:28Brooke Averick?

  I, I should have said something about it. I do think I oversold, undersold our podcast.

• 14:34Connor Wood?

  That's okay.

• 14:35Brooke Averick?

  A pretty significant amount when I said, "That's nothing."

• 14:40Connor Wood?

  Oh, I see.

• 14:40Brooke Averick?

  It just came out. I said, "That's nothing. Let me tell you about, um, my book. I Want to Apologize." I love our podcast. I don't mean it's nothing. I just panicked.

• 14:53Connor Wood?

  Hey, man, all good?

• 14:54Brooke Averick?

  I didn't say, I don't think I said, "It's nothing." I think I said, "We talk about nothing."

• 14:57Connor Wood?

  All good, man. Just our life's work?

• 14:59Brooke Averick?

  No. I, I, I said it and I was like, "Mmm."

• 15:02Connor Wood?

  No worries, man, at all.

• 15:03Brooke Averick?

  You don't know what's gonna come out of your mouth up there.

• 15:05Connor Wood?

  I start crying.

• 15:06Brooke Averick?

  I just, I panicked because I didn't know how I was gonna get to Phoebe.

• 15:09Connor Wood?

  First ever Brooke and Connor walk off.

• 15:12Brooke Averick?

  Sorry.

• 15:12Connor Wood?

  Seriously, no worries?

• 15:14Brooke Averick?

  Sorry, man.

• 15:15Connor Wood?

  Seriously, don't worry about it.

• 15:16Brooke Averick?

  Ew, I don't want to watch.

• 15:17Connor Wood?

  No, we have to watch it.

• 15:20Connor Wood?

  Whoa, who the fuck is that? RFK Junior?

• 15:22Speaker 03

  Comedy podcast, Brooke and Connor Make a Podcast. Welcome.

• 15:27Connor Wood?

  Oh, I was on it too for a second. I'm spitting my coffee on my shirt in the clip. Okay. They didn't want to, they didn't want to do a clip with my face in it, huh?

• 15:35Speaker 03

  So let's start with this heartbreaking...

• 15:37Brooke Averick?

  They just got right into it. Yes, this is Lost and Found by Tara DeWitt. She's one of my favorite romance authors. Okay. She's the master of writing things that are the perfect mix of emotional and seamy. She deals with some really emotional topics. Said seamy instead of steamy, didn't I? But doesn't, in a way, that's never too heavy. This one deals a lot with grief. So our main characters are Bee and Silas, and they're both kind of on these grieving journeys independently. Bee has just lost her best friend. My crotch out? Is kind of dealing with the aftermath of a very traumatic firefighting accident.

• 16:11Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 16:12Brooke Averick?

  And so they kind of come together and help each other heal.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 16:15Brooke Averick?

  And during that process, you know, sparks fly and romance and soos.

• 16:20Connor Wood?

  You did not do the, like, Tristan Channing cadence.

• 16:23Brooke Averick?

  What am I supposed to do?

• 16:24Connor Wood?

  Oh my God.

• 16:25Brooke Averick?

  I, I think that's my undercarriage.

• 16:30Brooke Averick?

  Genuinely.

• 16:31Connor Wood?

  Your cooter is like, but you, it's a classy way.

• 16:34Brooke Averick?

  It's a romper.

• 16:35Connor Wood?

  You can't see anything. It's like a, it's... Talk about, talk about seamy.

• 16:38Brooke Averick?

  It's a romper. Okay.

• 16:39Connor Wood?

  Oh, it's a romper?

• 16:40Brooke Averick?

  I think, and I think I went on too long for that one.

• 16:42Connor Wood?

  Hey, guys.

• 16:44Speaker 03

  Next one is a post-op apocalyptic novel about this guy trying, with his dog, trying to find survivors after a bad thing happens.

• 16:52Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, a bad thing happened. A flu pandemic kind of wiped out most of humanity. And a pilot lives alone in an airfield. Well, not alone. He lives with his dog and his plane. And one day, yeah, yeah, a little bit alone. Um, but he receives a transmission in his plane one day that gives him hope that there are still some survivors out there.

• 17:14Speaker 03

  And there's gonna be a movie?

• 17:15Brooke Averick?

  There's gonna be a movie with Jacob Elordi, who's a very good friend of mine. Yes, I've never, I've never met him, but... They like that. They like that. Oh, absolutely.

• 17:24Connor Wood?

  Oh, wow.

• 17:25Speaker 04

  So yeah, that's really cool.

• 17:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 17:27Speaker 04

  This next one is kind of like a grown-up version of The Breakfast Club?

• 17:31Brooke Averick?

  Yes, it's very feel-good, laugh-out-loud funny. It's about a woman who is working...

• 17:35Connor Wood?

  Did you memorize all this, or do you just know this?

• 17:37Brooke Averick?

  I did memorize it. ...up the corporate ladder, but then finds herself completely unemployed and aimless, and finds herself in the position of becoming the super for her apartment building. Yes, and so her tenants are what make this book really funny. It's such a quirky cast of characters, and it's such a great book about finding yourself and it never being too late to search over.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  You got some good picks here. This next one's a thriller. I like a thriller.

• 18:01Brooke Averick?

  Yes, you'll like this one. You'll like this one. I love Craig. On an island in Vermont where 100 years ago, a group of women went missing. They just up...

• 18:09Connor Wood?

  Roanoke vibes?

• 18:10Brooke Averick?

  No one knows what happens to them. And in the present day, they're making a movie about these women who disappeared. I'm, like, engaged. So the cast and crew go to this island. Mm-hmm. And, and so, yeah. So one by one, the cast and crew also start disappearing.

• 18:27Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 18:27Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Yep, and so it really keeps you turning the page until the very end.

• 18:32Connor Wood?

  They really didn't give the other young woman a chance to say a word, huh?

• 18:35Brooke Averick?

  We'll cry, you know, how Craig and I... My podcast, Brooke and Connor Make a Podcast, we really just kind of talk about a lot of nothing. Okay. Um, yeah, but I can tell you about my book.

• 18:48Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 18:49Brooke Averick?

  Sorry. Phoebe Burns is gonna do it. It's my debut novel.

• 18:52Speaker 03

  You crushed it. Everyone's...

• 18:54Connor Wood?

  It's put in a box over my face again!

• 18:56Brooke Averick?

  Sorry.

• 18:57Connor Wood?

  All good.

• 18:58Brooke Averick?

  Appreciate that.

• 18:59Connor Wood?

  Okay, wait, I want to hear about what you said about the book.

• 19:00Brooke Averick?

  I'm an anxious person, which you probably know based off of what I was telling you before we started filming. But I wanted to write about an anxious woman in the romantic space. So Phoebe is a hopeless romantic who has very severe intimacy anxiety. And so she is about to turn 30, and she has not yet lost her virginity. Can I say virginity on the Today Show?

• 19:25Connor Wood?

  Oh my God, Al was, Al was shaken up by that. Oh.

• 19:29Brooke Averick?

  I'm not gonna say much more than that, but basically she goes from having zero love interests to three love interests.

• 19:34Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 19:35Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, and she's giving herself the 30 days before her 30th birthday to kind of make everything happen.

• 19:40Speaker 03

  And this is gonna be on Netflix?

• 19:42Brooke Averick?

  It's gonna be on Netflix. Oh, congratulations.

• 19:44Connor Wood?

  It's gonna be on Netflix.

• 19:45Brooke Averick?

  Thank you so much. Thank you.

• 19:46Speaker 03

  Your grandparents are watching? Say hi.

• 19:49Brooke Averick?

  Hi, Mama and Papa. They made me nervous. They said, they told all their friends to watch, so that's why I was feeling kind of sick before we started. Now I'm feeling better. You didn't pass out, so... I did not pass out, which I was scared of, and thank you for making me feel so comfortable.

• 20:03Connor Wood?

  I could have been behind you in the window.

• 20:05Brooke Averick?

  Aw, thanks.

• 20:06Speaker 03

  We love your energy.

• 20:07Brooke Averick?

  I love you guys.

• 20:08Speaker 03

  So see all the recommendations, just go to today.com/books.

• 20:14Brooke Averick?

  No, they cut, "We'll be right back."

• 20:17Connor Wood?

  I'm sorry.

• 20:18Brooke Averick?

  And they cut, "You are our favorite guest." Maybe that was offline. That was engaging.

• 20:25Connor Wood?

  That was, that was incredible. I was watching the whole thing. I was like, "Oh, interesting." Yeah, that, you had a really, you described all the books really well.

• 20:32Brooke Averick?

  Thank you. I had, I mean, I wrote in a notebook all of my bullet points that I rehearsed for 24 hours. Just on loop, on loop, on loop. But I barely got to any of my bullet points because they were like, "All right, let's move on." And I love that. I miss Craig.

• 20:45Connor Wood?

  Oh, good.

• 20:45Brooke Averick?

  Craig is my, is my new obsession.

• 20:50Brooke Averick?

  I want to get Craig on the pod.

• 20:51Connor Wood?

  Let's ask.

• 20:52Brooke Averick?

  I feel bad though because I didn't.

• 20:53Connor Wood?

  I can't believe you didn't get his number after he said you're the favorite.

• 20:56Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 20:57Connor Wood?

  Of the day, over Jason.

• 20:58Brooke Averick?

  I heart Craig Melvin.

• 21:01Connor Wood?

  You should probably follow him on Instagram.

• 21:03Brooke Averick?

  I did.

• 21:03Connor Wood?

  Did you?

• 21:04Brooke Averick?

  Oh, Connor.

• 21:05Connor Wood?

  Did you message him?

• 21:06Brooke Averick?

  No. I know, I feel like Craig, I don't know, but maybe he wouldn't be running his own account.

• 21:11Connor Wood?

  I think Craig is running his own.

• 21:12Brooke Averick?

  Do you?

• 21:13Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 21:13Brooke Averick?

  Okay. I don't know. And then I got to meet Jenna.

• 21:16Connor Wood?

  Oh, cool.

• 21:16Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 21:17Connor Wood?

  How was she?

• 21:18Brooke Averick?

  Lovely. I only met her for a second, but that was great. And I really, the second I finished.

• 21:24Connor Wood?

  Hi Craig, Craig on vacation.

• 21:26Brooke Averick?

  He's just the greatest guy.

• 21:27Connor Wood?

  Last full day of paradise. And the scruff just got approved by the most important critic.

• 21:34Brooke Averick?

  I hope he has another vacation soon. He's been working so hard.

• 21:38Connor Wood?

  Oh my gosh, okay, 60,000 likes.

• 21:41Brooke Averick?

  Anyway, I'm feeling major relief.

• 21:44Connor Wood?

  Yeah, that has to be a load off.

• 21:46Brooke Averick?

  That's the last, like, really, really hard thing that I had to do of this entire summer. And so I express gratitude to you.

• 21:56Connor Wood?

  Likewise.

• 21:57Brooke Averick?

  For putting up with me and my stress. And you'll notice my lip is healed completely. That was diagnosed as stress. And...

• 22:06Connor Wood?

  Did you?

• 22:06Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. I think I was biting it pretty intensely.

• 22:09Connor Wood?

  Got it.

• 22:10Brooke Averick?

  That's all I have to say about this morning, I think.

• 22:13Connor Wood?

  Good. I mean, not good, but like, good job.

• 22:15Brooke Averick?

  Thanks.

• 22:16Connor Wood?

  It's over.

• 22:17Brooke Averick?

  It's over.

• 22:18Connor Wood?

  Are you, is there any...

• 22:21Connor Wood?

  Are you seeing any, like, what happens, like, what is the exposure from Today Show?

• 22:26Brooke Averick?

  Well, I did walk out and I was like, I want to be, what are they called on the Today Show?

• 22:32Connor Wood?

  Correspondents?

• 22:32Brooke Averick?

  I want to be one of them. Like, I want to be a correspondent. I think I do really well on live TV. And like, I really, I want to work on the Today Show. That's how I left, like, the immediate adrenaline high.

• 22:42Connor Wood?

  Crazy because literally last week, I was like, I could see you and I doing like a morning TV show. And you, Brooke, word for word goes to me, my long-term goal is to never be in front of a camera again. Last week.

• 22:56Brooke Averick?

  That was the, but it was the adrenaline talking.

• 22:59Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 22:59Brooke Averick?

  So I am...

• 23:00Connor Wood?

  So now you're back, you're back there.

• 23:01Brooke Averick?

  I am back to wanting a more secluded life with an openness to making appearances every now and then.

• 23:12Connor Wood?

  When Craig is on.

• 23:13Brooke Averick?

  When Craig is available.

• 23:14Connor Wood?

  And not on vacation, and it's not his last day in paradise, I will go.

• 23:18Brooke Averick?

  When Craig is on paradise. Although, when Craig and I get together, it is paradise.

• 23:22Connor Wood?

  Periodize.

• 23:23Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. So, that's it. I feel great. And tomorrow I head to Block Island, Rhode Island.

• 23:32Connor Wood?

  Why?

• 23:32Brooke Averick?

  For my new sister's bachelorette.

• 23:35Connor Wood?

  Oh, sick.

• 23:35Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 23:36Connor Wood?

  Block Island.

• 23:37Brooke Averick?

  I've never been to Block Island.

• 23:38Connor Wood?

  I don't know what that is.

• 23:39Brooke Averick?

  I don't know, I don't know the vibe, but it's kind of like a Nantucket-esque situation.

• 23:45Connor Wood?

  Brooke, nice. And the weather is really nice.

• 23:48Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 23:48Connor Wood?

  I don't know if you noticed when you walked around outside.

• 23:50Brooke Averick?

  So, I have to take a ferry.

• 23:53Connor Wood?

  Cool.

• 23:54Brooke Averick?

  Oh, cool.

• 23:55Connor Wood?

  Cute.

• 23:56Brooke Averick?

  Cute. So, that'll be nice. And that's it. What's new with you?

• 24:03Connor Wood?

  I mean, I don't, I saw you on Monday.

• 24:05Brooke Averick?

  I know.

• 24:07Connor Wood?

  And all I have to talk about, obviously, is the Idaho murder case. So, and that's not like, I don't want to follow up your Today Show thing with like, I don't know, I'm just back to my, my feeling about the, that it's a really good example of like, there's no like story to expose and like, no message to be told where it's like, you know, it's just like a tragic, it's a tragedy. And like, I'm confused why they made a documentary about it.

• 24:30Brooke Averick?

  I was about to say, aren't you very anti-documentary?

• 24:32Connor Wood?

  I am. No, I like, forgot, because it's just like an interesting case, but usually like, when you do it, it's like, or when you read, or when you watch these documentaries, it's like, oh, there were all these tragic things, and we want to tell the stories of the, and it's like, there's actually no story being told. It's just like a horrible thing that happened, you know? And it's being monetized.

• 24:54Connor Wood?

  There must be a plus side for like, the families of the victims, because like, I really, it's like, hard to grasp that we're all like, ooh, like, let's sit down and watch the documentary about college students being murdered in their sleep. Awareness of what?

• 25:08Brooke Averick?

  Well, awareness of like, this was my daughter, you know, and like, she was a person, and like, remember her. And also, like, this man was a monster.

• 25:18Brooke Averick?

  But I don't know.

• 25:20Connor Wood?

  It just feels a little...

• 25:21Brooke Averick?

  I bet it feels different to every family.

• 25:23Connor Wood?

  Nefarious.

• 25:24Brooke Averick?

  I bet each family feels differently.

• 25:26Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 25:28Brooke Averick?

  Because I know, like, I have seen some of these murder documentaries where the parents, they want to be there, you know?

• 25:33Connor Wood?

  Like, they want to be on TV?

• 25:34Brooke Averick?

  They want to be sharing their story, yeah, on the documentary. They want to be speaking about their child. They want justice for their child. They want people to be aware of the case.

• 25:42Connor Wood?

  Yes. This is already...

• 25:45Brooke Averick?

  No, they're, aren't they reopening everything?

• 25:46Connor Wood?

  They're reopening it because he's like withdrawing his guilty plea. He's saying that he was, like, convinced to plead guilty, and it was like a cover-up? No. He's like, no. It's crazy. That's what I'm saying, is there's no like, we want, we want justice, we want this. It was like, a failure, a failure, a failure, the justice system didn't work. And it did work, and it's like, over. So it's like, it must be painful to like, bring this back up. I don't know. That's, I don't want to be like, I don't want to talk about that any further, but I did, I turned it off. I was like, let me just not do that. But it did stick with me long enough to get a hotel room last night.

• 26:29Brooke Averick?

  Do you want to talk about incest?

• 26:32Connor Wood?

  Jump right into incest?

• 26:34Brooke Averick?

  I was telling you the conversation.

• 26:36Connor Wood?

  Well, let's, let's preface this.

• 26:37Brooke Averick?

  We might, like, yes, I obviously want to preface this with, so this is something I, there was a silence at a party a few weeks ago.

• 26:47Connor Wood?

  Can we preface by saying, when we, yeah, okay, just go ahead.

• 26:50Brooke Averick?

  Well, I have a lot of disclaimers that I will make.

• 26:53Connor Wood?

  Well, we asked, we asked on, I wasn't sure how Brooke, if Brooke was going to be still standing after the Today Show. So I put on, online today, give us some deep dives to go into, because I, you know, we both enjoy deep dives. And I said, please no mattress firm, like, conspiracy triangle things, no Denver airport. And incest did come up a couple times, but like, in different ways, but Brooke has an incest deep dive.

• 27:18Brooke Averick?

  Well, and I don't have an incest deep dive. I have just like a conversation that has come up a few times in my life about incest. And so there was a silence at a party a few weeks ago, and I asked the question, which was, if a brother and a sister came up to you, and let's say they like, didn't grow up together, and they came together when they were like, they were like, 18 or something, okay? And they came up to you, and like, we are brother and sister, full, both, we have the same parents, we are in love, and we are getting married, but we will not have kids.

• 28:04Brooke Averick?

  What?

• 28:05Connor Wood?

  I mean, I'm not going to hang out with them, you know?

• 28:07Brooke Averick?

  So, yeah. But also, like, at what point is love, love? Like, what, like, what is wrong?

• 28:17Connor Wood?

  I'm not going to be an incest sympathizer today.

• 28:19Brooke Averick?

  Listen, it, it's obviously, like, everybody's gut reaction is like, that's not okay.

• 28:24Connor Wood?

  No, but you're, yeah, but your gut reaction should be, that's not okay, in the people that are, the brother and the sister.

• 28:30Brooke Averick?

  But here's where it gets difficult, is that homophobic people, and I'm prefacing this by saying, y'all know that like, my issue is gay rights. So when I have engaged with homophobic people before, and fought them on their, on their beliefs.

• 28:46Connor Wood?

  On their home turf.

• 28:47Brooke Averick?

  On their home turf, on their views, they always bring this up. Because they're like...

• 28:54Connor Wood?

  They bring up incest?

• 28:56Brooke Averick?

  They bring up, well, I'm like, well, love is love. And then they throw at me like, okay, well, what if a brother and a sister wanted to get together? And they always throw that at me. So at what point are you like, okay?

• 29:06Connor Wood?

  Well, the issue, the issue is definitely like...

• 29:09Brooke Averick?

  The kids, right?

• 29:10Connor Wood?

  Yeah, having kids.

• 29:11Brooke Averick?

  So I'm saying, they are not having kids.

• 29:15Brooke Averick?

  You can imagine how the conversation was going at this party, by the way.

• 29:18Connor Wood?

  Yeah. I mean, it must have been.

• 29:19Brooke Averick?

  Oh, it was amazing. People loved me. I was a...

• 29:23Connor Wood?

  That's incredible.

• 29:24Brooke Averick?

  But I'm saying, I used to have this really homophobic person that I unfortunately had to interact with quite a bit. And it was like, the bane of my existence, and like, my life, my life's mission for a very long time was just fighting with this person. Like, I hated him with every fiber of my being, and we were just fighting all the time. And he would always, because I would always be like, who, why do you care? Like, it's fucking weird that you care this much. And love is love, blah, blah, blah, throwing, you know, everything I had. Like, it affects you in no way. Like, who are you to blah, blah, blah? And then he would always hit me with the, okay, well, what if?

• 30:08Brooke Averick?

  And then I was kind of just like, and then I would always be like, because I just was like, I was like, then I think that's fine.

• 30:13Connor Wood?

  Oh, Brooke. Oh, no, no.

• 30:15Brooke Averick?

  So I don't know if I was doing it as a service or a disservice.

• 30:18Connor Wood?

  No, you, we know your heart, and it's because of that damn school that led you.

• 30:22Brooke Averick?

  It's because of that damn school?

• 30:24Connor Wood?

  Your Quaker school that like, took you so far in your direction that I'd actually go, hang on, hang on, come back.

• 30:28Brooke Averick?

  No, but it's actually a really hard argument to have. But...

• 30:31Connor Wood?

  No, you could say, well, the, the gay people aren't hooking up with their brother, as far as, hooking up with their siblings. That's a different conversation.

• 30:40Brooke Averick?

  No, but then the person, like, let's, he would be like, you would say it makes me uncomfortable, right? If the reason, if they're not having children, you would say it's just wrong. And then the homophobic person would say, well, I think this is just wrong. And it's the same thing. And that's what they would argue. It's the same thing. Do you see what I'm saying? Let's role play. You're homophobic, okay? I want you to be homophobic. Obviously, both of us fuck with gay people heavily.

• 31:09Brooke Averick?

  Okay? You're homophobic.

• 31:11Connor Wood?

  You're already fired up. Like, I wish...

• 31:13Brooke Averick?

  I know.

• 31:13Connor Wood?

  Your beta blockers kind of changed you.

• 31:15Brooke Averick?

  My beta blockers wearing off.

• 31:16Connor Wood?

  This feels like a...

• 31:17Brooke Averick?

  No, I'm happy with like a...

• 31:18Connor Wood?

  Hi, I'm on set with Candace Owens here today.

• 31:20Brooke Averick?

  Because this is, this is something I used to get into all the time. I know people think I'm apolitical, but what I'm, I'm really not. Like, so, okay. You're a homophobic person.

• 31:30Connor Wood?

  Perfect.

• 31:30Brooke Averick?

  I'm Brooke, okay? Hey, man, why do you care? Say that like, two boys shouldn't be kissing.

• 31:39Connor Wood?

  Two boys shouldn't kiss.

• 31:41Brooke Averick?

  Hey, man, first of all, why do you care? And love is love. It affects you in no way. Who are you to say who can love another person?

• 31:50Connor Wood?

  Or what, what about a brother and a sister?

• 31:52Brooke Averick?

  Well, that's a different thing, because if they have kids, you know, that raises some issues.

• 31:56Connor Wood?

  Okay, what if they aren't having kids? They don't want to have kids? They can't have kids? They're infertile.

• 32:03Brooke Averick?

  This is when, you know, it kind of gets confusing. Do you see what I'm saying?

• 32:09Connor Wood?

  Here's the thing. Oh my god, wait, hang on.

• 32:11Brooke Averick?

  I know, that's what I'm saying.

• 32:12Connor Wood?

  Oh, wow.

• 32:13Brooke Averick?

  Cause that's how they get you. Cause then I would be like, well, they shouldn't be together. And it's like, why? And it's like the same exact, it's not.

• 32:21Connor Wood?

  No, I actually like wish that we were talking about the Denver airport right now. Because this is gonna get taken like.

• 32:26Brooke Averick?

  I'm being genuine, like, I don't know the answers. I don't know the answer to this argument. I don't know.

• 32:34Connor Wood?

  I don't, I'm not, I don't wanna do this anymore. I'm not like, I don't wanna do this anymore.

• 32:38Brooke Averick?

  It's just really interesting. And anyway, this is what was happening at that party. I was fighting for incest at the party, pretty heavily. Because if it means being pro, if it means that a man can, if I have to say, sure, a brother can kiss a sister and not have kids, if that's gonna get gay people married, fine, I'll do it. But like, I don't know if it's right.

• 33:01Connor Wood?

  Oh my god.

• 33:01Brooke Averick?

  Does that make sense?

• 33:04Connor Wood?

  No.

• 33:05Brooke Averick?

  Okay. I feel like it, I feel like you do know what I'm saying, though.

• 33:10Connor Wood?

  We need like, we need like an expert here to like, give us like the one.

• 33:14Brooke Averick?

  Who's an expert on this?

• 33:15Connor Wood?

  Hank Green, probably?

• 33:16Brooke Averick?

  Is incest okay, as long as they don't have children?

• 33:19Connor Wood?

  Everyone said no.

• 33:20Brooke Averick?

  Most people said. Honestly, I don't really think there are any real arguments against it. That's what I'm saying. What is the real argument?

• 33:26Connor Wood?

  As long as it's between two consenting adults and there's no chance of pregnancy. Sure, it might be abusive power dynamics involved, but tons of other relationships have that too, such as one coworker and their boss. No.

• 33:37Brooke Averick?

  I think you can make an argument against siblings who grew up together. Because that seems.

• 33:44Connor Wood?

  And those are typically seen as morally wrong as well. So this is like a,

• 33:49Connor Wood?

  this is when it goes back to like,

• 33:52Connor Wood?

  I don't wanna be around a boyfriend and girlfriend that are biological siblings, or like boyfriend, boyfriend that are biological brothers or sisters.

• 34:00Brooke Averick?

  I didn't even start with gay incest.

• 34:05Brooke Averick?

  Do you want to?

• 34:06Connor Wood?

  No. I don't, oh my god.

• 34:10Brooke Averick?

  It kinda makes your brain hurt.

• 34:11Connor Wood?

  I think it's.

• 34:12Brooke Averick?

  But anyway, this was something that I dealt with a lot.

• 34:16Brooke Averick?

  Thank god this person is not in my life anymore, that's what I'll say. But know that I was on the front lines dealing with this for a lot of my.

• 34:22Connor Wood?

  Did I meet this person?

• 34:23Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 34:23Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 34:25Brooke Averick?

  You did not.

• 34:27Connor Wood?

  Holy, did I think that that was gonna be that long of a?

• 34:31Brooke Averick?

  Cause it's a, it's a, it's a debate. I would love to watch a high school debate team tackle that.

• 34:40Connor Wood?

  No.

• 34:42Brooke Averick?

  And so, as always, every time I've had this conversation with people, we leave with no answers.

• 34:51Brooke Averick?

  I wonder if it could be like a question they have in ethics class? I don't know if it's an issue of ethics, but.

• 34:56Connor Wood?

  It's, there's morality involved 100%.

• 34:59Brooke Averick?

  Of incest, yeah.

• 35:00Connor Wood?

  Yeah. Well, and here's a good example of that. When you look at the people in the Appalachians that we all, famously, there's a family that's like so

• 35:10Connor Wood?

  inbred that like, they can't speak and they can't, some of them can't move.

• 35:14Brooke Averick?

  I would argue against that.

• 35:15Connor Wood?

  Well, what I, yeah, well, cause they're reproducing, of course, but like, they don't have the, they haven't been exposed to any education in that sense, or like any morality, you know? Like, there's no, you're not, I guess you would inherently, if you had some level of education, be like, I'm not gonna have sex with my sister?

• 35:34Brooke Averick?

  I actually do think, at one point, they knew that that wasn't the norm.

• 35:42Connor Wood?

  Great grandpappy, probably.

• 35:44Brooke Averick?

  Right. But now, I guess they,

• 35:48Brooke Averick?

  I guess they don't know. But,

• 35:52Brooke Averick?

  yeah, I mean, if they don't know, they don't know. You can't fault them. Is that something that like,

• 35:59Brooke Averick?

  does someone intervene? Or no, you just let them be?

• 36:09Connor Wood?

  Oh my god, is someone intervening? Them specifically, I do think that they.

• 36:14Brooke Averick?

  I don't think so.

• 36:14Connor Wood?

  Are not being intervened with.

• 36:16Brooke Averick?

  I don't think so either.

• 36:17Connor Wood?

  Huh.

• 36:20Brooke Averick?

  I would genuinely like never in my life if I wanted to like, really go back to school since I graduated, but this is something that I would study.

• 36:28Connor Wood?

  There was one class that I was not in. And it was a larger like lecture hall type thing. And a bunch of, I think two of my friends had this class and they, they were like, you guys have to come, sit in on this class. And it was like the only class that I went to, I would get my lunch and I would go to this class and I would sit in. And then everyone started coming, like, they had to get like a, like flex chairs to put in the back of this room because everyone started coming, because it was like, the professor would open up debate questions and then people would stand up in the class and it'd be two people. And there was like, there was one like guy on the football team that stood up. This is at UT and he's like, yeah, like,

• 37:10Connor Wood?

  I think if my girlfriend was leaving the house and I wasn't going out, she was wearing, and this girl stood up in the front goes, oh, hell no! And I was like, oh, I'm coming every day for the rest of the semester. And I went to that class, the, they just went back and forth, the professors like this.

• 37:25Brooke Averick?

  That professor found like a really good niche.

• 37:29Connor Wood?

  It was like, it was like Maury. It was like being on set.

• 37:32Brooke Averick?

  That sounds really.

• 37:33Connor Wood?

  At Jerry Springer. It was race, gender, and the pursuit of happiness, I think.

• 37:41Brooke Averick?

  That sounds good.

• 37:42Connor Wood?

  Um, yeah, we had some fun classes.

• 37:44Brooke Averick?

  I honestly think that is a class where they could discuss the incest thing.

• 37:50Connor Wood?

  I don't think like the level of intellect that was in that class, it was just really there to like, it was like a prereq class.

• 37:59Brooke Averick?

  You know what?

• 38:00Connor Wood?

  I don't think there were any ethical.

• 38:01Brooke Averick?

  I would call Lindsay, because I bet she would have just the most brilliant take. Unfortunately, she is in Pakistan, so I don't know if I'll be able to reach her.

• 38:12Connor Wood?

  It's beautiful this time of year, I've heard.

• 38:13Brooke Averick?

  Ah, yes, in Islamabad.

• 38:21Connor Wood?

  Elbows on the table, thoughts? I'm gonna take us far away from where we've been.

• 38:24Brooke Averick?

  I would like, that's like such a non-issue. If I, if anyone ever told me to get my elbows off the table, bye.

• 38:33Connor Wood?

  We should go to dinner with my mom, you could fight her, you need to take a beta blocker.

• 38:36Brooke Averick?

  Would she do elbows off the table?

• 38:36Connor Wood?

  Ah, I don't, she was never like manners, manners, manners. But there was like certain stuff where it's like, what are you doing? Like, that kinda thing? But elbows on the table, I don't, yeah, I guess.

• 38:46Brooke Averick?

  I'm not sure I ever got that as a kid. I mean, I definitely got like, you know, I, please try and chew with your mouth closed, Brooke, and, and you know, keep the food on your plate and off your shirt and stuff like that. But I think elbows on the table for me, it was like, that's the least of, you know, I was, I'm a bad eater, so.

• 39:06Connor Wood?

  I'm a baddie.

• 39:07Brooke Averick?

  I'm a, I'm a baddie.

• 39:08Connor Wood?

  I'm a baddie, you know?

• 39:09Brooke Averick?

  But yeah, elbows on the table for me, I'm just like, grow up.

• 39:12Connor Wood?

  Elbows on the table to me are, I'm engaged, I'm here.

• 39:16Brooke Averick?

  It's not comfortable to not.

• 39:17Connor Wood?

  Imagine me sitting like this and you're talking to me at dinner.

• 39:21Connor Wood?

  And I'm like this?

• 39:22Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 39:23Connor Wood?

  I travel.

• 39:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, who started with the elbows?

• 39:25Connor Wood?

  I don't know, I posted on my story the other day and a couple of people are like, are you serious? Like, whatever happened to manners? No elbows on the table rule comes from medieval times and ancient warnings, driven by unstable table setups, crowded spaces, and posture habits.

• 39:40Brooke Averick?

  Okay, you know what else comes from medieval times? Incest.

• 39:45Connor Wood?

  Beheadings.

• 39:46Brooke Averick?

  Leeches. Leeching out your blood, blood leeches.

• 39:51Connor Wood?

  Stoning people in the square.

• 39:53Brooke Averick?

  Guillotine.

• 39:54Connor Wood?

  Starvation, polio.

• 39:57Brooke Averick?

  Corsets.

• 39:58Connor Wood?

  Smallpox, the black.

• 39:59Brooke Averick?

  Yellow fever. Did you have to read that book, Yellow Fever, for school?

• 40:06Brooke Averick?

  With the girl with the yellow eye on it?

• 40:07Connor Wood?

  No.

• 40:08Brooke Averick?

  Oh, you would've loved that, and I'm being serious. It was really like, that one.

• 40:15Connor Wood?

  No, I didn't read it.

• 40:16Brooke Averick?

  Fever 1793.

• 40:17Connor Wood?

  Fever 1793.

• 40:18Brooke Averick?

  I guess that's not the Middle Ages, like even remotely, but the yellow eye.

• 40:23Connor Wood?

  Ooh, she looks like Keira Knightley.

• 40:25Brooke Averick?

  I could see that.

• 40:27Connor Wood?

  I watched on the flight yesterday. I started with something easy, I watched Fool's Gold again. I do wanna say again, this is what I think so much about Phoebe, is like, when I'm looking at these casts and these movie posters for these movies that are like, The Wedding Singer, I'm like, maybe what we're missing here is just like how I said Love Island, and Love Island UK is excluded from this conversation, but like Love Island now, like, everyone wants their like, everyone wants this to be like their big break, their moment, their viral clip, like on Love Island. And like all these like rom-coms are coming out and it's like, we're doing this because this will be a funny like, clip we can post or whatever. If you look at The Wedding Singer, for example, that movie poster, they're having fun. That cast is like friends, you can tell, and like,

• 41:11Connor Wood?

  they're coming out these movies that are objectively like, kind of corny, but they were fun. They were all having, along Camp Polly, they were having fun.

• 41:18Brooke Averick?

  Wait, what's that have to do with Phoebe?

• 41:20Connor Wood?

  That, I think Phoebe's like, has that like fun gene, you know?

• 41:25Brooke Averick?

  Really sweet.

• 41:25Connor Wood?

  And I look at Fool's Gold, and I'm watching Fool's Gold on the plane and like, obviously.

• 41:32Connor Wood?

  Just the perfect casting. Kevin Hart's in it, and I'm gonna even say he was the perfect casting for this.

• 41:37Brooke Averick?

  And y'all have beef.

• 41:38Connor Wood?

  We don't have any beef.

• 41:40Brooke Averick?

  I thought you had beef with Kevin Hart.

• 41:41Connor Wood?

  Me and Kevin Hart have no beef.

• 41:42Brooke Averick?

  Wasn't he the one on the flight that was like, "You guys are so annoying"?

• 41:46Connor Wood?

  My god, I forgot about that. I don't have beef with him.

• 41:49Brooke Averick?

  Did you make that up?

• 41:50Connor Wood?

  No, I don't have beef with him because he was right.

• 41:52Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 41:53Connor Wood?

  We were being annoying.

• 41:54Brooke Averick?

  Fair.

• 41:55Connor Wood?

  That was back when I learned how to use Photoshop and I was editing everyone's eyebrows off.

• 42:00Brooke Averick?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 42:01Connor Wood?

  And I was like, "This is the funniest thing in the world," because we didn't have filters or anything, and I was learning how to,

• 42:07Connor Wood?

  edit eyebrows off when I was laughing, and I went to ask for a picture, and he was sitting in very back of the plane, and with us, and I was like, "Can we get a picture?" And he's like, "No, you guys are the most annoying people I've ever met," but I don't hold that against him. He was right.

• 42:21Brooke Averick?

  I would say, even if he was right, I would say, "Hey, I acknowledge you were right about that. That would still hurt my feelings." Two things can be true.

• 42:29Connor Wood?

  That was, I think because of the friends I was with, I was like, "Yeah." Like, I was like, "I don't need..." And that was pre, like, clout chasing, so I didn't really need the photo anyways. But that's a good memory book. I forgot that that had happened.

• 42:42Connor Wood?

  I was like, "Are you sure you can reach your bag? I can get it down for you," but he, but I'll get it down for a picture. What do you say, champ? And so, great movie, just so sexually charged, those two. Matthew McConaughey and Kate Hudson in their prime.

• 42:56Brooke Averick?

  Angst and sexual tension. Sexual tension, that is what makes, that is what a movie makes.

• 43:04Connor Wood?

  And what's funny is that she said that their make-out scenes were so foul for her, she wanted, she was gagging.

• 43:09Brooke Averick?

  Because she feels like incest vibes with Matthew McConaughey?

• 43:12Connor Wood?

  It could be bro and sis.

• 43:14Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 43:14Connor Wood?

  They, that wasn't, they could still do that, but no, they just like weren't a match, and that's just a testament to their acting.

• 43:22Brooke Averick?

  Well, was, this was after How to Lose a Guy, right?

• 43:25Connor Wood?

  It was in the same two-year period, and I can't remember who came first or next, but...

• 43:30Brooke Averick?

  I would be pretty mad if I was like making out with someone for a movie, and then they did like a press run that was like, making out with her was so foul.

• 43:38Connor Wood?

  That was like recently, she said that, and they were going back and watching clips.

• 43:42Brooke Averick?

  I'd be pretty mad.

• 43:43Connor Wood?

  It was because of the swimming make-out scene when they're in the water, and she, it could have been because she was getting water in her mouth, but they did, they did, they had to do it like 10 or 15 times in that movie, and she was like, I was like gagging by the last one. Anyways, so I watched that, and then something drew me into this movie, this like war movie. You know, I love those war movies. Not like new war. I also have a commentary on war that's not gonna be well-received, and why not throw it in this episode?

• 44:11Brooke Averick?

  I think this episode's a good one. Receive this one positively.

• 44:14Connor Wood?

  Yeah, there's gonna be, this is gonna be a very polarizing episode, which is like, we never do that. We're usually talking about me pooping or something, like, so this is great.

• 44:26Connor Wood?

  I'm watching this like historical fiction movie, and I feel like

• 44:32Connor Wood?

  even war has lost that like war thing, because now it's all like...

• 44:38Brooke Averick?

  Computer war?

• 44:39Connor Wood?

  Everyone's on their damn phones, even in the wars.

• 44:41Brooke Averick?

  What war movie are you watching?

• 44:43Connor Wood?

  1917, and I'm watching it.

• 44:44Brooke Averick?

  Is that Andrew Scott?

• 44:46Connor Wood?

  Yeah. So I'm watching it, and I'm going, "This is, without a doubt, the most, one of the most phenomenally shot movies, and the scoring is so well-done, and this casting is brilliant, this acting is brilliant. How am I like, how did no one hear about..." Don't say it.

• 45:01Brooke Averick?

  I'm not saying anything.

• 45:02Connor Wood?

  "How did no one hear about this movie? How am I the first person to see this movie?" I type in on Google, "Did 1917 get any accolades? Where, why did 1917 not get its flowers?" Three Oscars.

• 45:14Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 45:15Connor Wood?

  Best motion picture, best scoring, best casting, Golden Globe for Best Movie of the Year, and two Grammys, I believe.

• 45:25Brooke Averick?

  In your defense, I only know of it because I love Andrew Scott.

• 45:29Connor Wood?

  Benedict Cumberbatch was in it.

• 45:32Brooke Averick?

  Remember that movie with him?

• 45:35Connor Wood?

  Yes!

• 45:36Brooke Averick?

  Alan Turing, gay icon?

• 45:38Connor Wood?

  I don't remember, I don't know.

• 45:40Brooke Averick?

  He did something pretty extreme. What did Alan Turing do, Izzy?

• 45:47Connor Wood?

  I don't even know, I don't know who Alan Turing is.

• 45:51Brooke Averick?

  He did something, he decoded some sort of... He was a mathematician. He was a mathematician, and he decoded something pretty intense, and he was gay.

• 46:03Connor Wood?

  And he was in incest.

• 46:04Brooke Averick?

  No, there was no incest involved.

• 46:08Connor Wood?

  His work in cryptography, theoretical biology, and artificial intelligence made significant contributions to the war effort.

• 46:13Brooke Averick?

  He cracked a main code. He cracked an extreme mainframe that helped in the war.

• 46:18Connor Wood?

  Huh, what war? World War II?

• 46:20Brooke Averick?

  Why, him being gay was somehow significant.

• 46:26Connor Wood?

  They castrated him?

• 46:27Brooke Averick?

  Really is, it's a, it was a really sad movie.

• 46:30Connor Wood?

  They chemically castrated him?

• 46:34Brooke Averick?

  Something sad happened.

• 46:35Connor Wood?

  They should have made some exceptions for the father of modern computing.

• 46:37Brooke Averick?

  Something sad, really sad happened. I remember being very moved by that movie, if y'all wanna watch it, but I did watch it like, whenever it came out.

• 46:44Connor Wood?

  The man who cracked the Nazi code.

• 46:46Brooke Averick?

  He freaking cracked the Nazi code.

• 46:49Connor Wood?

  This is so interesting, because obviously I went to a 1917 hole last night.

• 46:52Brooke Averick?

  You would like this.

• 46:54Connor Wood?

  I will watch it. I will watch it. Um, I learned about something. Did you hear about the

• 47:03Connor Wood?

  Zimmerman Telegraph? Do you know what that is?

• 47:05Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 47:06Connor Wood?

  Things like this don't like not come across my desk, because I love this shit. I love this bullshit. The Zimmerman Telegraph was a telegraph sent from Germany to Mexico to try to convince them...

• 47:22Connor Wood?

  Was I wrong? Okay. Okay, Germany to...

• 47:25Brooke Averick?

  No, I love that you're reacting.

• 47:26Connor Wood?

  I'm gonna try to, Germany to Mexico to try to convince them, and I think this was during World War I, like 1917, probably around that. And, wrong? Okay.

• 47:41Brooke Averick?

  Did this happen in the movie 1917?

• 47:43Connor Wood?

  No, no, this is like completely adjacent. I was just wondering, like, I was just Googling about World War I, because it is fairly random if you look into the origin of World War I. It doesn't entirely like, "Why did we do that?" But, um...

• 47:59Brooke Averick?

  My friend Izzy just texted me, the producer of our podcast.

• 48:01Connor Wood?

  What did she say? She texted only you?

• 48:04Brooke Averick?

  She said, yeah, she was giving me a time update. I can't notify anyways on group.

• 48:09Connor Wood?

  Oh, I see how it is.

• 48:11Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, sorry, I was just talking to my friend Izzy. You, keep going.

• 48:14Connor Wood?

  Oh, okay.

• 48:16Brooke Averick?

  Izzy, will you text me again?

• 48:17Connor Wood?

  Wait, I like that app, if Today Show comes out, we're like, we kind of talk about nothing. Incest, World War I.

• 48:26Connor Wood?

  Take that, Al Brooke. He's gonna be a listener now.

• 48:29Brooke Averick?

  I tell you, Al gave me a big hug at the end.

• 48:31Connor Wood?

  Yeah, that's special. He's big. Like in a, like hug kind of like.

• 48:35Brooke Averick?

  Like bear hug.

• 48:35Connor Wood?

  Yeah. Okay, so Germany sends Mexico this telegraph, and it goes through, and it's kind of like, "Hey, if you join us in this war," which is like, so excited, just picture Mexico being like,

• 48:47Connor Wood?

  "You want us to..." They were like, "We'll help you get Texas back."

• 48:52Brooke Averick?

  If you? Germany would have Mexico to get Texas.

• 48:55Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I think that, but it was intercepted by the British, and because they, Germany had used an, like, American line to like send it, because they're like, "They'll never check the American line." But the British were tapped into the American line, and then they held it, they held on to it to wait until they could leverage it to get the Americans to join their war.

• 49:14Brooke Averick?

  Wow.

• 49:15Connor Wood?

  Which is pretty fascinating, because I didn't even know that we were doing all this horse shit.

• 49:19Brooke Averick?

  Who know, like, how did they know to intercept this random piece of mail?

• 49:22Connor Wood?

  I think that it was just like spies. They were so into spies back then.

• 49:25Brooke Averick?

  Spies were so good.

• 49:27Connor Wood?

  Spies were good and cute.

• 49:30Brooke Averick?

  Very interesting, thank you.

• 49:32Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 49:32Brooke Averick?

  Can I ask what you know about World War I?

• 49:35Connor Wood?

  Um, yeah. It began from like a Serbian side, and it was like pretty confusing, because there was a lot of like,

• 49:45Connor Wood?

  it's not, what is it called when you're like for your nation? Nationalism. But it was like the three, it was like two, two sides with like three big guys each that got involved, because they were all like nationalists. I think it was like Britain, France, and one more, and then it was like Germany, no.

• 50:04Brooke Averick?

  Austria-Hungary.

• 50:06Connor Wood?

  Austria-Hungary was one, and then Russia was an ally of the US, but France, it was...

• 50:13Brooke Averick?

  It started with the assassination. The assassination of our Duke for France, Ferdinand?

• 50:16Connor Wood?

  Yeah, but then there were the powers that be. It was like three versus three, and we were an ally of like Russia, Russia, Britain, and France. I think it was Russia, Britain, France. And then there was like Germany, Austria-Hungary, and

• 50:34Connor Wood?

  Italy on the German side?

• 50:37Brooke Averick?

  Italy and Germany are cohorts.

• 50:39Connor Wood?

  Because of the Mussolini piece.

• 50:41Brooke Averick?

  That was two, I think.

• 50:44Connor Wood?

  Anyway, so they started fighting each other, and then we weren't gonna join, and then the Germans, I think the Germans sunk like an American ship, and it killed a bunch of people, and we still didn't join, because there was like a freedom of like, the waters were free for submarine warfare or something. I don't know, some bullshit. But we joined eventually, um,

• 51:02Connor Wood?

  and that's all I know.

• 51:03Brooke Averick?

  It's crazy that, it's just like, World War II, it's like everyone knows about World War II, but my World War I knowledge is pretty damn limited. It's pretty limited to the Archduke France, Ferdinand, and it ends there.

• 51:15Connor Wood?

  The Archduke. Ah, Archduke. Come over and play.

• 51:21Brooke Averick?

  Then after World War I, Austria-Hungary separated and became different places.

• 51:25Connor Wood?

  Yeah. Due to the fact.

• 51:28Brooke Averick?

  Hot.

• 51:29Connor Wood?

  Due to the facts that be.

• 51:32Connor Wood?

  Who took Archduke's place?

• 51:36Connor Wood?

  Who gives a shit?

• 51:37Brooke Averick?

  Wait, what was he the Archduke of? Was he the Archduke?

• 51:39Connor Wood?

  Ferdinand.

• 51:40Brooke Averick?

  No, no, that's his name. So I honestly bet there wasn't another one after him, because they became two different places.

• 51:49Brooke Averick?

  He was the heir to the throne.

• 51:52Connor Wood?

  After his death, Archduke Karl came.

• 51:54Brooke Averick?

  Oh, oh, Archduke Karl.

• 51:55Connor Wood?

  Wow, imagine going from Ferdinand to Karl.

• 52:00Connor Wood?

  Absolute slob.

• 52:03Brooke Averick?

  All right.

• 52:03Connor Wood?

  Okay, well, that's all, that's like, that's what we have of that.

• 52:06Brooke Averick?

  Enough of that for now.

• 52:09Brooke Averick?

  Do you wanna touch any of the messages that you got?

• 52:11Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I have a bunch. I don't, like, I really can't believe we got that far with...

• 52:16Brooke Averick?

  No, I told you that incest conversation carries.

• 52:19Connor Wood?

  Yeah, it really carried us to far, far away places.

• 52:25Connor Wood?

  The thing about these things that people send in for deep dives that we could go into, like, I don't even know which ones would prove interesting, because I've never heard of a bunch.

• 52:33Brooke Averick?

  Sure.

• 52:36Connor Wood?

  A bunch of people did send in like the word money and like how money works. I don't really know what that is. What's a flock camera?

• 52:44Brooke Averick?

  I don't know what a flock camera is.

• 52:45Connor Wood?

  Can we look into flock cameras?

• 52:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's those like government, it's what the cities have been using, but now they're like surveillance. Used for surveillance.

• 52:55Brooke Averick?

  Flock cameras are automated license plate reader systems made by Flock Safety. Unlike standard video cameras, they do not record continuous video or use facial recognition. Instead, they snap still photos of passing vehicles to log license plates. Vehicle, make a model. Okay.

• 53:11Connor Wood?

  But the issue now is...

• 53:12Brooke Averick?

  Why is that bad?

• 53:13Connor Wood?

  Surveillance.

• 53:14Speaker 05

  They think, or they know that it's like constantly on, so it's like monitoring people all the time.

• 53:20Brooke Averick?

  I think at this point, we just like assume that's the case, right?

• 53:23Connor Wood?

  Yeah, everyone's, there's cameras everywhere. And they make such small ones now. You could put them in your...

• 53:29Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 53:30Connor Wood?

  You could have a real magic school bus situation.

• 53:32Brooke Averick?

  Just wait till you get home to pick your nose.

• 53:36Connor Wood?

  We could do magic school bus. Like, there's a world in the next 15 years where Netflix has like a live-action magic school bus, but not with real people. Like, they put a camera up your...

• 53:49Connor Wood?

  tuckus, and then they go up...

• 53:53Connor Wood?

  Wait.

• 53:55Connor Wood?

  Up your button around the corner, through your tubes and out your boobs?

• 54:00Brooke Averick?

  You can go out your boobs. I guess you could out the nipple duct.

• 54:03Connor Wood?

  I can.

• 54:04Brooke Averick?

  I know you can.

• 54:07Connor Wood?

  Get like me.

• 54:09Brooke Averick?

  Can I ask you a question? It wasn't a question, but do you remember when people put tape over their cameras on their computers?

• 54:15Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 54:16Brooke Averick?

  Are they still doing that?

• 54:17Connor Wood?

  I think everyone has kind of moved. I know a lot of people still put the like in and out. There's like a little windshield wiper type thing that they cover it up when they're not using it.

• 54:26Brooke Averick?

  Do you believe that people are watching you through your computer camera?

• 54:32Connor Wood?

  Like, are you asking me like point blank, do I believe people are watching me through my computer camera? Like, do I genuinely believe that?

• 54:40Brooke Averick?

  Yes, that's what I'm asking you.

• 54:42Connor Wood?

  It's just, it's, it's, the only reason I will say it's hard, like, I don't think someone is sitting there watching my computer camera because like, we don't even have enough baristas right now, you know? Like, who is sitting? People would take that job. I don't know. I don't, I don't think so. I don't think we have enough workforce to be doing that.

• 55:01Brooke Averick?

  What about, here's what I'll ask you. You've just committed a pretty intense crime.

• 55:06Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 55:07Brooke Averick?

  They're doing recon on you.

• 55:09Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 55:10Brooke Averick?

  Do you think that there is footage from your computer that has been recording you this whole time that they could then pull?

• 55:16Connor Wood?

  I imagine if they are watching your computer, it would probably be a flock camera situation where they could like, there's been still images. Like, if, if that's the case, I don't know if that's the case. Like, I'm out of storage on my phone. I bought two terabytes. There's no way that they're constantly recording and saving and uploading unless that's what the data centers are for. We are genuinely stepping into conspiracy theory level.

• 55:40Brooke Averick?

  I'm not on, I'm just asking these questions, you know?

• 55:44Connor Wood?

  Oh, I don't know, but I don't have, you know, my fat ass does not have the answer. I have always been of the ilk, like, there's nothing I'm doing on my computer, like, what, you're, you're watching me with like my

• 55:57Connor Wood?

  face like this on the camera?

• 56:00Brooke Averick?

  I'm just saying, like, think Criminal Minds, like, could Penelope Garcia access footage taken from the computer even when the computer wasn't recording if she believes that the unsub committed a crime in front of the computer?

• 56:16Connor Wood?

  No, I don't, like, it's never, that's never come up.

• 56:18Brooke Averick?

  Criminal Minds. That's not been done in Criminal Minds.

• 56:20Connor Wood?

  That's never come up. I also think a big fear was like people being like, your camera is on and like it'll see you naked. Then it sees me naked.

• 56:28Brooke Averick?

  Then it sees me naked. Sorry, I'm just seeing if Craig has followed me back.

• 56:32Connor Wood?

  Has he?

• 56:33Brooke Averick?

  Not yet.

• 56:34Connor Wood?

  Did you change your phone back, or your phone case for this?

• 56:37Brooke Averick?

  No.

• 56:38Connor Wood?

  Oh.

• 56:38Brooke Averick?

  I thought you were gonna say, did you change your phone background to Craig? And that's none of your business.

• 56:43Connor Wood?

  You have to be closer to the mic.

• 56:45Brooke Averick?

  No, I don't. These mics can pick up from far away, right? Yeah, these mics can pick up from far away.

• 56:50Connor Wood?

  Okay, sorry. You know what? I, I, I do get like a lot of, I'm sure a lot of people get the FYP. Um, I'm really just scrolling on reels at this time because I have removed the TikTok app from my phone for a little bit, one month, and it's just been amazing. I had to re-download to watch that video of Corinna gagging at her Sephora hall.

• 57:09Brooke Averick?

  Did you see the other one I sent you?

• 57:11Connor Wood?

  No, because I don't, I don't have the app.

• 57:13Brooke Averick?

  It's, it's just as good. Izzy, do you have your texts on this computer? Can you pull up the second video I had sent y'all of Corinna?

• 57:23Connor Wood?

  Afterwards, I have like a genuine conspiracy theory that I'm, I'm pretty like, I'm not tuned into, but it is amazing to me that so many people, so many people with Instagrams with families believe this one and they're commenting with their chest.

• 57:37Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I'm curious.

• 57:38Connor Wood?

  Oh, you need to...

• 57:38Brooke Averick?

  This is the only person that if they had a podcast, I would listen to it, I think. Corinna and Jonathan Groff.

• 57:44Connor Wood?

  Ours is about nothing.

• 57:45Brooke Averick?

  Woke up. And you're wondering why do I sound like this?

• 57:50Connor Wood?

  I'm wondering.

• 57:50Brooke Averick?

  I woke up and I was coughing and I think I choked on my throw up. And I can still feel it, like, there's still something coming up.

• 58:08Connor Wood?

  Call us back.

• 58:08Brooke Averick?

  I'm trying to drink some juice. I have Krakow seal to try to

• 58:16Brooke Averick?

  absorb it, but I really do not.

• 58:20Brooke Averick?

  That's not a good way to wake up from a nap. Another thing... Is your stomach just then? Another thing is...

• 58:33Connor Wood?

  She goes quiet to let it speak.

• 58:34Brooke Averick?

  I think it was also maybe her throat.

• 58:39Brooke Averick?

  Boo.

• 58:43Brooke Averick?

  Is that, I'm just sitting here and I'm like hearing and hearing like

• 58:52Brooke Averick?

  something. I see like an Amazon dri, I'm on there going they back into my driveway.

• 59:01Brooke Averick?

  I thought they were backing into the house, so I was like panicking. I'm like, no, this is not great.

• 59:08Brooke Averick?

  Love her so much.

• 59:10Connor Wood?

  I thought they were backing you into the house. This is not great.

• 59:14Connor Wood?

  Can I see the comments? The comments like... I thought they were backing into the house. I think, I think I hear it coming, girl.

• 59:24Brooke Averick?

  Are we ever okay?

• 59:27Connor Wood?

  Dancing on Live 30 Minutes after posting this is so funny.

• 59:30Brooke Averick?

  She's just like, I just, like, I have the impulse every time I even like am a little bit nauseous to, to post. And so the fact that she just does it so shamelessly makes me feel so safe and heard and like, she, I would say, she is my influencer. Like, she makes me feel something out of everyone. Like, I want her on Dancing with the Stars.

• 59:59Connor Wood?

  She needs to get a doctor.

• 1:00:03Brooke Averick?

  She has, she definitely has.

• 1:00:05Connor Wood?

  She shouldn't be nauseous every day.

• 1:00:07Brooke Averick?

  I think it's also just like, I'm nauseous every day, but like, I think I'm a lot...

• 1:00:11Connor Wood?

  She might have GERD.

• 1:00:12Brooke Averick?

  She might have GERD, but like, I'm thinking about being nauseous all day, you know, and it makes me nauseous.

• 1:00:17Connor Wood?

  Sure.

• 1:00:18Brooke Averick?

  So I think she has a lot of health anxiety. She's just a girl.

• 1:00:23Connor Wood?

  No, I know.

• 1:00:25Brooke Averick?

  So, I mean, I, I like truly, like, she's my favorite person. Anyway, what were you saying about your conspiracy theory? Do we have time, Izzy?

• 1:00:33Speaker 05

  Uh, we just hit an hour.

• 1:00:35Brooke Averick?

  Do you want to do a conspiracy theory on the bonus?

• 1:00:37Connor Wood?

  I want to do one really quick before we leave because I want, I want people to let me know if, if you have seen this. There's a new thing that people are saying about the sun, that during COVID, they installed a new sun.

• 1:00:53Brooke Averick?

  Like...

• 1:00:54Connor Wood?

  And someone came on and was like, my sunflowers aren't, don't know where to point. They're all pointing different directions now because this is an artificial sun. And Brooke, you say, oof, like, I hope this person has a really good support system. Their support system? Right there in the comments. I knew something was off. I knew something was off. I haven't gotten tan since 2020.

• 1:01:14Brooke Averick?

  All those kind of people need is one other person.

• 1:01:18Connor Wood?

  It's community. It's community building. You can build your community online. Now, there's no way that it helps that person's mental to be like, oh my God, I was right. The sun is not, this is not the sun that I grew up with. The sun is different.

• 1:01:40Brooke Averick?

  Mm-hmm. It's like, what do you do? With, I don't know how to like respond to those types of people.

• 1:01:46Connor Wood?

  Just like know that that, that person is going to like Thanksgiving with their family and you could be sitting next to them hearing about how the sun isn't real.

• 1:01:51Brooke Averick?

  Right. Honestly, I've got, I would have one of those at Thanksgiving.

• 1:01:56Connor Wood?

  Like, that would be, that would honestly be a more engaging conversation than the, the ones that I have sometimes at Thanksgiving.

• 1:02:00Brooke Averick?

  Let's just say I have one person at Thanksgiving who believes that uh, Ivanka

• 1:02:08Connor Wood?

  Ivanka?

• 1:02:09Brooke Averick?

  Trump's.

• 1:02:10Connor Wood?

  Ivanka Trump?

• 1:02:11Brooke Averick?

  Ivanka Trump's mother is Princess Diana. Let's say that.

• 1:02:17Connor Wood?

  Is that not true?

• 1:02:20Brooke Averick?

  What? That's, that's Prince Harry and Prince William's mother.

• 1:02:25Connor Wood?

  Brooke.

• 1:02:25Brooke Averick?

  And she's passed.

• 1:02:28Brooke Averick?

  And there is someone at my Thanksgiving table who would say that her and Trump had actually had a child.

• 1:02:32Connor Wood?

  Well, I would, I would encourage you to keep an open mind about Ivanka Trump.

• 1:02:37Brooke Averick?

  Nice one. Legend.

• 1:02:39Connor Wood?

  Legend status.

• 1:02:40Brooke Averick?

  Such legend status. It's unbelievable.

• 1:02:42Connor Wood?

  Cute as well.

• 1:02:43Brooke Averick?

  It is cute.

• 1:02:44Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 1:02:45Brooke Averick?

  Okay, man.

• 1:02:45Connor Wood?

  Well, I hope everyone really enjoyed that and I'm sure we'll have...

• 1:02:48Brooke Averick?

  I'm sure they did.

• 1:02:49Connor Wood?

  I'm sure we'll have a brand new audience next week.

• 1:02:51Brooke Averick?

  I'm scared. Izzy, you think that was fine to say?

• 1:02:56Connor Wood?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like so interesting. Please, no more of, once we get through the hour to be like, do you think that 15-minute segment was okay? Like, if we're gonna cut something, we have to do it in real time.

• 1:03:06Brooke Averick?

  I'm genuinely fine now that I've, I have not read comments in months. So I don't know, I don't know what people are saying.

• 1:03:12Connor Wood?

  Please, if, if any, if you...

• 1:03:14Brooke Averick?

  And I won't know what people are saying.

• 1:03:15Connor Wood?

  If you made it this far and you have something to say, keep it to yourself. Probably watch.

• 1:03:25Connor Wood?

  Something else.

• 1:03:25Brooke Averick?

  I'm curious if now that I've connected, you know, with Craig and Al, and I kind of didn't give them a lot of information about this podcast, maybe they get curious and they listen to this one.

• 1:03:33Connor Wood?

  Maybe they have some downtime in paradise.

• 1:03:36Brooke Averick?

  That could, that could happen.

• 1:03:37Connor Wood?

  I hope they listen to this one. You will never know by the way this one started, what was to follow.

• 1:03:43Brooke Averick?

  On God.

• 1:03:44Connor Wood?

  Fact.

• 1:03:46Brooke Averick?

  All right, love you, Bug.

• 1:03:47Connor Wood?

  Bye, guys. Thank you for listening. We'll see you next week.

• 1:03:52Brooke Averick?

  This week on Close Friends. Gay incest is so much better than straight incest. I just went to the dermatologist. She said it's a skin color mole. Do you want to see it? Honestly, I'm not kidding. You might not think of me the same way.

• 1:04:04Connor Wood?

  Oh, it's about to all go crazy!

• 1:04:09Brooke Averick?

  Wait, no.

• 1:04:09Connor Wood?

  Three, two, one, sword.

• 1:04:12Brooke Averick?

  I mean...

• 1:04:13Connor Wood?

  Three, two, one, rock!

• 1:04:16Connor Wood?

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