#2325 - Aaron Rodgers

Aaron Rodgers is a four-time NFL MVP and Super Bowl champion who has played quarterback for the Green Bay Packers and New York Jets. He ranks among the all-time leaders in career passing touchdowns and passer rating.https://www.nvcf.org/aaron-rodgers-norcal-recovery-fund Visit blackriflecoffee.com/joe-rogan and use code ROGAN for 30% Off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:12Joe Rogan?

  Which start with? Chew?

• 0:15Speaker 02

  Kodiak.

• 0:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. That's rough.

• 0:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:19Joe Rogan?

  That's a lot. So you could...

• 0:21Speaker 02

  But these are much better now.

• 0:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, these are good. These Lucy's are good. I like these two. These are athletic nicotines. These are threes. These are like, they don't fuck you up. They're mild.

• 0:29Speaker 02

  I wonder though, do you wonder all, there's a lot of these studies coming out now about how good nicotine is for you?

• 0:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Where'd that come from?

• 0:38Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 0:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, all these nicotine pouches are selling like crazy?

• 0:41Speaker 02

  It's like we're in the 1950's.

• 0:44Joe Rogan?

  These are good smoking when you're sick, when you're pregnant.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  Pregnant women, you know, if you're sick.

• 0:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think there's real benefit to nicotine because that's been proven for a long time. It's just always been the delivery method that's the problem.

• 0:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, the Kodiaks and the other ones. There's a lot of other stuff in there that's not great for you.

• 1:02Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure. What is the one that has like actual glass in it?

• 1:06Speaker 02

  Probably Kodiak or Grizzly, one of those two.

• 1:08Joe Rogan?

  Um, I think it's Skull.

• 1:09Speaker 02

  Apologies if that's wrong to those companies.

• 1:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, apologies to any company that we talk about. People will fucking buy it anyway. They're like, oh, good glass in it? Good. Makes it better?

• 1:19Speaker 02

  Cuts your lip, gets it in there quicker.

• 1:21Joe Rogan?

  I think that's the idea. Like, there's something abrasive in one of them that, that like, it allows the nicotine to get into your bloodstream quicker.

• 1:29Speaker 02

  You sure just one of them? I feel like it's a few of them.

• 1:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so you can find anything out about that. Yeah, that's, that doesn't...

• 1:35Speaker 02

  But these are hot right now.

• 1:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:37Speaker 02

  I mean, not in California because you can't get anything that's flavored.

• 1:39Joe Rogan?

  It's like, nothing flavored. Fucking, what a shithole. God, I'm so glad I left that fucking place. Is there fiberglass in tobacco? Fiberglass?

• 1:50Speaker 02

  It's a complete myth.

• 1:51Joe Rogan?

  Okay, no evidence for this, although it gets repeated by many anti-ST. What's ST?

• 1:57Speaker 02

  Smokeless tobacco.

• 1:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. I've heard the claim that fiberglass creates little cuts to allow absorption. Oh, so it's just bullshit.

• 2:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's good. That's good to know.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  Well, good.

• 2:07Joe Rogan?

  That would be horrible.

• 2:08Speaker 02

  Internet says it must be true.

• 2:09Joe Rogan?

  It must be.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:10Joe Rogan?

  Chat GPT is never wrong. We were talking about this lady that got arrested. And she was bringing in frog embryos. And they're trying to deport her to Russia illegally bringing in frogs. She's a researcher. Research, I guess?

• 2:28Speaker 03

  Here's the article. This is a different article than the one you sent me. This is the one from April I found that still talks about her arrest and everything.

• 2:35Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so she is also working on some cancer detection?

• 2:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:40Joe Rogan?

  Technology?

• 2:41Speaker 03

  This article says that no one can fully unlock the data's potential except her.

• 2:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, interesting. And that's why they want to lock her up?

• 2:50Speaker 03

  Well.

• 2:52Joe Rogan?

  It can't just be frogs. She's working for Harvard and she's got frog embryos that are illegally being brought back to the United States?

• 3:02Speaker 03

  Something I was reading said that this generally is a fine, sometimes maybe a couple of months of detention. But she's also asking to not be deported back to Russia. She wants to go to France and that's part of the issue too.

• 3:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it might be a thing where Putin's like, you have women.

• 3:17Speaker 02

  Protested against the war in Ukraine.

• 3:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  There's a lot going on.

• 3:22Joe Rogan?

  You have woman that we are very interested in. And we put frogs in her backpack.

• 3:31Joe Rogan?

  You will find her with these frogs and then you will send her back to us. We have to talk to her. And they probably don't want to talk to her unless she, if she's been locked up since February for frogs?

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Wait.

• 3:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, meanwhile in California, you fucking murder somebody, they let you right back out.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:50Joe Rogan?

  Pull a knife on a cop, they let you right back out.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  I think I'm gonna get out.

• 3:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 3:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:54Joe Rogan?

  Where you at now?

• 3:56Speaker 02

  I'm still there.

• 3:56Joe Rogan?

  What part?

• 3:57Speaker 02

  I'm in Malibu.

• 3:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, get the fuck out of there.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  But Malibu is.

• 4:00Joe Rogan?

  It's nice.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  We're not in the shit.

• 4:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it's like having a beautiful house in the ghetto. It's like, yeah, it's nice where you're at. It's nice. Beautiful ocean that's filled with toxic pollutants now.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 4:14Joe Rogan?

  Um, I'm biased. I think right here. I like Texas. This is the last stand. This is the fucking, this is the Alamo.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  That is pretty impressive.

• 4:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  Just how they've been able to disdain and.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  You know, what happened with COVID?

• 4:30Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm. Yeah, there's a few states that held the line during COVID and it just shows you the importance of good government. Or just government that allows people to just be free and operate the way they'd like to.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  I know there's a lot of Texans who wanted to keep the California out of Texas if you moved there.

• 4:51Joe Rogan?

  That's a good idea because a lot of these retards are coming here with some of the same ideas that they left with. Well, we gotta get away from these people, but why is everyone here voting red? You shouldn't be voting red. You need to be voting blue. There's like cult members, there's like Democrat cult members. There's reasonable people.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  Blue no matter, no matter who, but.

• 5:11Joe Rogan?

  That's goo- it's so goofy.

• 5:13Speaker 02

  You know, some of these cities.

• 5:14Joe Rogan?

  All that shit's goofy.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  Look at the beautiful cities that we used to have in California.

• 5:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. I just, I used to love LA. I used to love it. Every time I went back there, I'd be like, phew, I'm back. When I travel on the road, I'd be like, thank God I'm back in LA. It's always sunny, people are cool, it's easy going. And then COVID just, just a big reality smack of how important government is.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  You know, I've seen recently, it makes me laugh, is people driving Teslas, but they've either removed the emblem on the back or they have a sticker that says like an anti Musk Tesla group or something.

• 5:48Joe Rogan?

  Before Elon went crazy.

• 5:51Speaker 02

  I'd say 70% of them are wearing a mask driving still, but.

• 5:53Joe Rogan?

  I think most of them are just scared their car's gonna get fucked up if they leave it somewhere.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  No, I think so too.

• 5:58Joe Rogan?

  I think about that. When I park my Tesla, I think about that.

• 6:00Speaker 02

  Even in Texas, I feel like this is happening on California.

• 6:03Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of kooky liberals out here.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:06Joe Rogan?

  I get side eye from people out here.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  They love the Tesla before, right?

• 6:10Joe Rogan?

  They used to love it.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  Kind of like the view in Trump.

• 6:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's also, there's a lot of, you know, it's the USAID stuff, really. It's. It's hard to say. I had Amanda Knox on here yesterday and she was talking about

• 6:24Speaker 02

  Oh, did you?

• 6:25Joe Rogan?

  This program that was, that, you know, was a, an innocence program where you, they're trying to release wrongly accused people and that it got defunded. And I said, well, was there anything inappropriate about what they were doing? Like, cause there's a the unfortunate reality of having conversations with Elon about this, both publicly and privately. Like, there's a lot of stuff that it looks good on the outside and then you find out you have this amazing slush fund. You have fucking billions of dollars that's being allocated towards this one particular organization. People are extracting enormous salaries and then very little of it is

• 7:06Joe Rogan?

  actually going. Yeah. So this is a part of the problem with these things like, oh, we lost funding. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's bad. You definitely want to have funding to, to help innocent people get out of jail.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, but what the fuck were you doing?

• 7:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, where's all the money going? I don't know, you know, but I know a lot of them. I know that they spent 251 million dollars on transgender animal studies. Like, there's, there's some wild money that's being thrown around. They spent 2 million dollars giving cocaine to dogs. Super important to find out.

• 7:36Speaker 02

  I really wanted to see the episodes of the 20 million they spent on the, the Sesame Street in

• 7:41Joe Rogan?

  In Iraq?

• 7:46Speaker 02

  Was Oscar still a villain or was it Big Bird?

• 7:48Joe Rogan?

  Let's count the gays as we throw them off the roof. One, ha, ha, ha.

• 7:56Joe Rogan?

  21 million dollars. Did you?

• 7:57Speaker 02

  But how is the fucking common sense? Like, when people hear that?

• 8:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 8:01Speaker 02

  Just because it's fucking Elon and some

• 8:03Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 8:04Speaker 02

  20 year olds, they can't go, oh yeah, I'm glad he did that. That's a waste of my money.

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• 8:49Joe Rogan?

  Meanwhile, the guy saved those fucking people trapped up in space. Yeah. You didn't hear a peep about that. And the shit he does when there's natural disasters with Starlink. Oh, yeah. He's revolutionizing space travel, revolutionizing satellite internet capabilities and the availability all over the world. It's crazy. It's really crazy. And saving billions of dollars of your tax money from going to fucking fun stupid-ass programs all over the world. It's not just stupid-ass programs. Some of it is like, you don't even know where it went. It's corruption, too. He said that some of the money, that there was billions of dollars that was written out with no receipts at all.

• 9:32Joe Rogan?

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• 12:22Speaker 02

  Any questions for Trump and the administration?

• 12:24Joe Rogan?

  It's a good question.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  Well, what's going on?

• 12:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, the administration's only 100 days old, right? Or 130, or whatever the fuck it is. It's like, I think it takes a while to even find out what the fuck happened. I don't- No, you know, I've I've had conversations with people about it and it's like, Jesus, like just trying to get the documents, like when they're trying to get the Epstein files, like they're the state of New York. One of the district attorneys was hiding, they were hiding documents that had forced them to give documents. I think there's so many fucking powerful people that are on those lists. There's so many powerful people that went and partied. Air quotes, air quotes, partied. And how many of them went to the Diddy parties? Have you even paid attention to the trial?

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:05Joe Rogan?

  Trials, wild, wild.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Why don't they, uh, they air it the same way they aired the, uh, you know, the the coverage that, you know, maybe Johnny Depp got.

• 13:15Joe Rogan?

  I know, why don't they? I don't know. They should. The ratings would be amazing.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Unreal.

• 13:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like, what are you doing? Why wouldn't you air that?

• 13:22Speaker 02

  What's gonna happen there, you think?

• 13:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, Diddy's gonna be in jail for the rest of his life. Uh, I think he's probably gonna get hit up.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  Saying though?

• 13:32Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I don't even think it matters. I mean, it's, a lot of it is, uh,

• 13:36Speaker 02

  But then it's just another Epstein. It's another Ghislaine Maxwell, where somebody gets indicted and nobody else. Indicted for trafficking kids to.

• 13:45Joe Rogan?

  Right, to to no one, right. That's the crazy thing about Ghislaine, right? She's in prison for sex trafficking to who?

• 13:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:51Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, mature. Yeah.

• 13:56Speaker 02

  But I mean, there's a lot of people that want some, some heads to roll, not just with that.

• 14:00Joe Rogan?

  Just started, so we'll see, because apparently there's tremendous amount of video that they have. But we've also heard that about the Epstein.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, and what are they gonna do? How much is it gonna get out?

• 14:11Joe Rogan?

  James O'Keefe just released video of Epstein's library, right?

• 14:15Speaker 02

  I didn't see that. I know he's been holding on to something and there's been fear about him getting taken out and.

• 14:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but then he was like.

• 14:22Speaker 02

  Some sort of kill switch or something, I don't know.

• 14:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but then he was like DJing.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Then he was, yeah, I know.

• 14:27Joe Rogan?

  That is some, like, a lot of his theatrics, it's like, so, O'Keefe is so.

• 14:31Speaker 02

  But his, his, I mean, he was, his undercover videos were amazing.

• 14:36Joe Rogan?

  Incredible.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  And and then he got ousted at the Project Veritas, right? And then went.

• 14:41Joe Rogan?

  I wonder what happened there? Like, I'd like to know what the story there is, because there's no official story of why he got ousted.

• 14:48Speaker 02

  Has he not, he's hasn't gone anywhere? He's under some gag order, maybe?

• 14:52Joe Rogan?

  I would imagine there's some sort of an NDA or something, otherwise, why, the guy who releases everything, why wouldn't he release that? If he can, you know?

• 15:02Speaker 02

  But his videos are mostly like gay men meeting up.

• 15:05Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  And the one guy is got a big dick and he's, you know, oh, I can tell you this, you know?

• 15:11Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  And has no idea, oh, by the way, everything you just said is.

• 15:14Joe Rogan?

  It's always chatty gay guys. Here it goes, in O'Keefe's Twitter, uh, inside Epstein's library, O'Keefe releases never before seen footage with bizarre statues and cryptic messages left by Epstein from inside Epstein's island library. By the way, like, what does that mean? Like, if you look in this room, like, bizarre statues.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  Power, deception.

• 15:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow, like, he's got a diagram.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  Music.

• 15:38Joe Rogan?

  All the things he's trying to do. What is, what is all that? Power, deception, plants? Does that say plants?

• 15:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:46Joe Rogan?

  Wonder what that means, like, plants, like, planting people inside organizations? Is that what that means?

• 15:51Speaker 02

  What's in the bottom here? Does it say?

• 15:54Speaker 03

  Something in France.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Drunk brain?

• 15:56Speaker 03

  I don't know. Time, day, drink? Yeah, I don't know.

• 16:00Joe Rogan?

  Dank brain? Is that what that says?

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Intellectual, political, something.

• 16:06Joe Rogan?

  Music? And what is the other one next to music? Be, what is that?

• 16:11Speaker 03

  Uh, I don't know. See if some, I'm gonna see if anybody has deciphered this.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, when he puts this big O'Keefe over it, it kind of obscures the, the letters.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  Okay, what else is weird in this, though?

• 16:20Joe Rogan?

  Well.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  What are we even looking at?

• 16:21Joe Rogan?

  Let's, let's, let's play it. He's got some weird statues. Fucking, I got a lot of weird statues. You know, what does that mean? Nice place. You know, we were talking about buying the island at one point in time.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  I would've gone in.

• 16:33Joe Rogan?

  It's for sale for.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  I was talking to, talking to Jamie. He needs some investors.

• 16:38Joe Rogan?

  You know the fucking headlines? Aaron Rodgers and Joe Rogan buy the island.

• 16:45Joe Rogan?

  We were talking about putting.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  As is, though. As is.

• 16:47Joe Rogan?

  As is, a hundred percent. We were talking about putting up a podcast studio in, in the fucking, in, in the big temple.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 16:56Joe Rogan?

  The temple that's the Israeli flag.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  It's this mirror and face.

• 16:59Joe Rogan?

  You know, the temple that's the colors of the Israeli flag? You know about that, right?

• 17:02Speaker 02

  I didn't know that, no.

• 17:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, it's the, oh, here it goes. O'Keefe is showing power.

• 17:05Speaker 03

  Oh, they're trying to show that he, that's his handwriting, I guess.

• 17:08Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Boys?

• 17:10Joe Rogan?

  Boys.

• 17:11Speaker 03

  Um, yeah, I don't, maybe he says what it says.

• 17:15Joe Rogan?

  Were there, there.

• 17:18Speaker 03

  Among others. Alright, I guess you're right.

• 17:21Joe Rogan?

  Dank brain.

• 17:22Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 17:22Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  Mirror in face.

• 17:25Joe Rogan?

  Dank brain. Was, does dank brain means you're high as fuck? It must be, right?

• 17:31Speaker 03

  I'm gonna Google, I'm gonna see what, uh...

• 17:32Joe Rogan?

  That means they gave you a super edible. They gave you one of them Joey Diaz edibles.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  Maybe it's a... Maybe it's a project name, you know?

• 17:40Joe Rogan?

  Right, that's probably...

• 17:41Speaker 03

  Project Dank Brain.

• 17:42Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right, that's probably it. What is that other one? Mirror in face? What is that? Is that what it says?

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 17:49Speaker 03

  The truth, something else?

• 17:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, shitty fucking handwriting for an evil villain. Hmm. Yeah. Very weird stuff. Let me show them, uh...

• 18:02Speaker 03

  Should've went one more. Someone wrote it out in a little more...

• 18:05Joe Rogan?

  Okay, plants, truth, myth, reality, power, deception. What do you mean by plants? Appears, music, brain, rhythm, mimic, time delay, deception. It says dark brain? I thought that was an N. I don't think that guy's correct.

• 18:21Speaker 03

  Could be Dank Brain or Dark Brain.

• 18:22Joe Rogan?

  Look at that other image, though?

• 18:23Speaker 02

  I like Dank Brain better.

• 18:24Joe Rogan?

  It looks like an N to me. Yeah, that looks like N. That doesn't look like dark. That looks like Dank Brain. That's an N. So I'm already skeptical.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:34Joe Rogan?

  It's a fucking psy-op, bro. It's all a bunch of psy-ops. Show them the image of the, uh, temple that was on the island. That was gonna be JRE Podcast Studio, number two.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Nice, we could've done this here.

• 18:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was thinking about, but I was like, you know what? That's a good way to die. They're not gonna let me buy that fucking place. Look at it.

• 18:58Speaker 02

  Oh, well, you know where that is too, right? Similar image to that, right?

• 19:02Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  I know Jamie does.

• 19:04Joe Rogan?

  What is it?

• 19:05Speaker 02

  It's on the set of a famous talk show that's now not on anymore.

• 19:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Ellen? Was that Ellen?

• 19:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:13Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Just look at that, the temple, and then look at the...

• 19:18Joe Rogan?

  Let me see Ellen's background. What? Oh, similar. That looks like a, a building, though.

• 19:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, sure.

• 19:26Joe Rogan?

  Like, yeah.

• 19:29Joe Rogan?

  Is that a building in LA? That might be a building in LA.

• 19:34Joe Rogan?

  Right, but, but I mean, it's supposed to be a background of.

• 19:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  It's strange. They use the same.

• 19:41Joe Rogan?

  It is, but it's, you know, I mean, it's whatever. I'm not that impressed with that. That could just be coincidental. There's a lot of people.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Ask Alex about that.

• 19:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, he'll get, well. It's a longstanding tradition to put Israeli flags secretly in everything.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  That's so fucking.

• 19:59Joe Rogan?

  Did you see that they did this thing recently where they uncovered the fact that, uh, Israel had kiosks in malls? And Israeli intelligence was, they were gathering intelligence, but with these drone kiosks that they were selling in malls? Like these little propeller drones? Let me see if I can find it. Um, I know I sent it to some friends. Did you find it, Jimmy, right away? Yeah. Charged US-running illegal mall kiosk network. How fucking weird is this? Accused of arranging for Israelis to arrive in the country with tourist visas for the purpose of illicit employment and sales, and they were gathering information. The whole thing was gathering information.

• 20:42Joe Rogan?

  Israelis been charged US with visa fraud, allegedly running an illegal employment scheme in the country, which helped other Israelis obtain entry permits under false pretenses for the purpose of illegal employment.

• 20:55Joe Rogan?

  You know, I was chatting back and forth with Ari. I sent, I sent this to him.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  What are you saying?

• 21:00Joe Rogan?

  He's like, imagine being pwned, you know, PWN?

• 21:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:03Joe Rogan?

  By a, a country that has like seven million people in it. It's like they've been fucking, they've been running things for so long. It's kind of amazing.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  It's impressive.

• 21:13Joe Rogan?

  They're very impressive. I mean, they, they developed Pegasus. The, the whole reason why every time I text, I assume the government is reading everything I write is because they can. They can, they can get into your signal. Like all these encrypted apps that people think that they're like, you're gonna buy drugs and fucking sell guns and shit. No, no.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  No.

• 21:31Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  Was this part of the story, sir?

• 21:34Joe Rogan?

  What is this? Uh, Mossad uses mall kiosks in the US as front companies while on intelligence operations. Yeah, this is it. Attorney Jessica Alaber found dead in her home after uncovering Israelis illegally entered the US to work at mall kiosks. She found dead in her home. Google that. Jesus.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Probably suicide.

• 21:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, shot herself in the head twice.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  What happens over there, you think? Whoo.

• 22:01Speaker 03

  Epilepsy, though.

• 22:02Joe Rogan?

  Epilepsy. Died in her sleep. Hmm. Okay.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  She was the young one. She was like forty-three.

• 22:08Joe Rogan?

  Could be coincidence.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I read about this.

• 22:10Joe Rogan?

  Maybe she got that third booster. We're expecting more information for it. When was this? What time was this? What, when did this happen?

• 22:17Speaker 03

  March.

• 22:17Joe Rogan?

  March. Similar, recently. Expect more information from the medical examiner.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  Speaking of boosters, why didn't Bobby just come out and, uh, taking that off the old, uh, schedule? Maybe, maybe start with kids.

• 22:29Joe Rogan?

  They did start with kids. It's removed now.

• 22:31Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 22:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 22:31Speaker 02

  Since when?

• 22:32Joe Rogan?

  Um, real recently, like within the last day or two. They pulled it from the recommendations of the, uh, you know, the requirements, the kids.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  It was true.

• 22:40Joe Rogan?

  Fucking insane. It's fucking insane. Covid's not a danger to kids. It's super dangerous for kids. There's a lot of evidence for that now. There's the fact that they've been able to obscure all the vaccine deaths. I know there was, um, wh- wh- where was it? In Florida? Where they were pointing, they're, they're making this accusation that as many as four hundred and seventy thousand people died from the vaccine.

• 23:08Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find that.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  What is it? The Surgeon General down in Florida has been,

• 23:11Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  has been pretty rock solid.

• 23:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's rock solid. Yeah.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Black dude, he was on TV a bunch.

• 23:16Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh. Yeah.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  I liked him a lot. Every time he spoke, it was like, yeah, that makes sense.

• 23:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:21Joe Rogan?

  He's like, it's just, it's just money, man. It's literal sacrifice of human lives for money.

• 23:28Speaker 02

  But same thing, like, when is any of those people gonna be held accountable?

• 23:32Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 23:32Speaker 02

  Never?

• 23:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, I would hope.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Look at everything that's happened in the last twenty years. You know, financial crisis,

• 23:37Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  happens. You know, insider trading, fucking the market on purpose. No, no heads roll. In fact, they actually get put into Obama's cabinet, many of them, that, uh, great documentary.

• 23:48Joe Rogan?

  You mean the two thousand eight?

• 23:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:50Joe Rogan?

  Thing? Do you think they did that on purpose? They tanked the market on purpose? Or you think it was just, what they did was ultimately going to tank the market?

• 23:57Speaker 02

  I think there's a lot of coincidences.

• 23:59Joe Rogan?

  A little coincidence. A lot of coincidences.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  No, but I'm just saying, no one ever gets held accountable. No one gets held accountable. What's going on with COVID? No one's gonna be gonna be held accountable. Was Dr. Fauci gonna be held accountable for lying about gain-of-function research?

• 24:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, he could be held accountable for perjury, I believe. I don't believe they can get him for the gain-of-function research. I don't think they can get him.

• 24:20Speaker 02

  But he lied on the stand when Rand Paul was in.

• 24:22Joe Rogan?

  I think they get him for that.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, cuz you can, I don't know, but a blanket pardon that goes back to when gain-of-function was illegal during the Obama administration is a little suspicious.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  It was really when they moved it out of North Carolina.

• 24:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  To Wuhan.

• 24:38Joe Rogan?

  A little suspicious.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  A nice timing there. Why 2014, I wonder?

• 24:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, that was when, I mean, I think during the Obama administration, Obama wisely was like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Like, don't, what's the benefit of that? If you're creating more contagious diseases and you don't have cures, like, what the fuck are you doing? It's, you know, Bobby thinks it's all weapons. He thinks it's biological weapons, which completely makes sense.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  See what Nicole Shannon said recently about Bobby?

• 25:10Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  She said she doesn't, she's a little confused at what, uh, kinda some of the stuff he's been saying and doing lately, and maybe he's got somebody who's controlling him.

• 25:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, isn't there that one guy that said that him and Bobby, like Bobby has to check with him on everything that happens?

• 25:28Speaker 02

  What guy?

• 25:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, there's too many of these fucking people. I know I save these. I save everything. I have these bookmarks that are just fucking completely ridiculous, and if somebody finds me and I'm dead, they're gonna be like, what was wrong with him? You're a little obsessed.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  While you're looking for this, Jamie, I'm sure you've probably seen some of these. Do you, when you're on Instagram, sometimes you'll come across videos, and the voice you recognize right away, but you know that person didn't say it. Have you seen these?

• 25:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Your voice is on it a bunch. I first got, got alerted to it when John Reeves, our buddy John from Alaska, I heard his voice on some, like, UFO video.

• 26:06Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  I was like, John, what the fuck did you? He's like, no.

• 26:09Joe Rogan?

  No, he's not doing any of it.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  I've heard my voice on stuff too, but I heard, I heard your voices a lot. Voice needs, how the fuck they do this stuff?

• 26:16Joe Rogan?

  It's real easy.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  And it's dangerous too.

• 26:18Joe Rogan?

  It's real easy now. It's uh, it's crazy. It's, what I see a lot of is me selling stuff that I'm not really selling. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of that. A lot of me selling shit that I'm not really selling.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  You're not at the pedal of new products?

• 26:32Joe Rogan?

  No. Well, it's not just, it's like businesses and shit that I'm not really interested in.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Was this, was this the pad that Zahi was using? Right here? This one?

• 26:43Joe Rogan?

  Uh, maybe.

• 26:48Joe Rogan?

  That might've been the worst podcast I've ever done. But maybe a good one too. Just to see, okay, this is the guy, this is this close minded minded fellow that's been in charge of gatekeeping all of the knowledge about Egypt.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  And still standing on the same ideas, even after this LIDAR comes out.

• 27:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the tomography, whatever it is.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that, that stuff's fascinating. Because uh, I've been, even after that podcast, I've been watching more videos of those Italian scientists describing it. They've used it to, this is one of the things that I brought up. One of the temples that they scanned with this was very accurate. And he's like, but this was only fifty feet down. Okay, okay, right, but it works. Like, if fifty feet down, you get an accurate representation of what's inside there. Which, and he was the one, Zahi supposedly, you know, discovered it. But he's discovered everything, basically. So how do you?

• 27:43Speaker 02

  Genius.

• 27:43Joe Rogan?

  He's the best. So.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  But the good thing is that Graham can go back to Egypt now.

• 27:48Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Yeah.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  So they patched up something.

• 27:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, that was one of the reasons why Zahi came on.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 27:53Joe Rogan?

  Graham talked to Zahi and he's like, Zahi wants to do this, we're friends now. I was like, bring him in? Let's go. Bring him in. I'll talk to him. I may thought, I thought it would probably.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  Did he invite you to, to Egypt? And what'd you say?

• 28:04Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 28:04Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 28:04Joe Rogan?

  If I'm going, I'm going with Graham.

• 28:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. I am, I told Graham. I told Graham I wanted him to take me a few years ago. He said, I can't go. They'll kill me. So next thing you know, I see Graham's taking people to Egypt.

• 28:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, that's nice. It's nice that they patched it up.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  I went back, I went there last, last July.

• 28:23Joe Rogan?

  Did you?

• 28:23Speaker 02

  Last, sorry, June.

• 28:24Joe Rogan?

  How was it?

• 28:25Speaker 02

  Incredible. Yeah, it was incredible.

• 28:27Joe Rogan?

  Did you walk away thinking immediately, there's a lot we don't know?

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Hundred percent. And what they tell you is complete bullshit.

• 28:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I have a friend who went there and the archaeologist that showed him it said, this is complete bullshit. Like, the narrative is complete bullshit. Yeah. He said, the scale of it, he said, the scale of it and the technology involved in construction is beyond our current understanding of how to do this.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  And it's not just the pyramids and the Sphinx. The other temples are magnificent.

• 28:55Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, there's probably a bunch of shit under the ground.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  I know. That's what I wanted to go see. But the cool thing was, the first temple I went in was what I'd seen on Ancient Aliens, where at the very top of the temple, you have one of the most famous hieroglyphs, which has a spaceship, a helicopter, and a submarine up there. As clear as you can possibly imagine.

• 29:14Joe Rogan?

  Show that.

• 29:15Speaker 02

  What the fuck is that? How in the, what is that?

• 29:20Speaker 02

  Explain that, please. Because that looks like a spaceship, that looks like a submarine, and that a hundred percent looks like a helicopter.

• 29:27Joe Rogan?

  So weird. Egypt is the weirdest place on Earth. It really is.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  But that's why it needs to be, what the hell's underneath it?

• 29:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think that one.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  That one right there?

• 29:38Joe Rogan?

  I mean, come on. Come on. That's so crazy.

• 29:42Speaker 02

  That's a spaceship or fighter jet.

• 29:43Joe Rogan?

  Some kind of a.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  That's a submarine.

• 29:46Joe Rogan?

  It looks like a yacht. It looks like one of them oligarch yachts that they keep getting pounded.

• 29:50Speaker 02

  That's a helicopter.

• 29:51Joe Rogan?

  It looks like a helicopter to me. It looks just like a helicopter. If it's not a helicopter, what a goddamn coincidence. And, you know, there's a bunch of weird stuff there, a bunch of weird images. Just, and how about that one plane that they found that was inside? They found like a wooden plane?

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 30:10Joe Rogan?

  That was inside one of the chambers?

• 30:12Speaker 02

  Totally normal. They're just buried there with the.

• 30:15Joe Rogan?

  That was the other thing that Zahi was unwilling to entertain was this king's list. This zeptechy king's list that goes back thirty thousand plus years.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 30:26Joe Rogan?

  They all, they all want to pretend that that's a myth, that all the other hieroglyphs are legitimately documenting the history of the region, but when it gets past the narrative, these thirty thousand year old kings, that place has probably been there for a long fucking time.

• 30:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably hundreds of thousands of years.

• 30:45Joe Rogan?

  Which is so crazy.

• 30:47Speaker 02

  And it's probably built on other stuff.

• 30:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the other thing about the base of the, the pyramids. It's like you have to realize like there's a base there before they put the pyramids up, they put this insane base. And if what they're saying is accurate with these readings, that there's a structure that goes under the ground two kilometers? Like.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, what is that?

• 31:10Joe Rogan?

  If they can find that, then you have to throw everything out the window.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  But aren't you with me? Like, why are we not interested in that?

• 31:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, we are.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  But why are we, why is modern archaeology not going, yeah, let's fucking figure this shit out?

• 31:23Joe Rogan?

  Because modern archaeology forever has been saying that we have the answers, that we have the timeline. We know when Kufu built this, we know when Kafri built this, we know who did this, and they're not correct. It's just, it's not accurate. It's too weird. There's no way you have all the information. Also, where'd everybody go? Like, there's people living there, but it's clearly not the same civilization. So what happened to this insane civilization? If there wasn't a collapse of society at an immense level, if there wasn't some sort of a civilization, civilization destroying event.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:01Joe Rogan?

  Then where did everybody?

• 32:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what happened?

• 32:04Speaker 02

  How about this, this idea? We got a new pope.

• 32:07Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  He's from the States.

• 32:09Joe Rogan?

  From Chicago.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  Let's open up the Library of the Vatican.

• 32:16Joe Rogan?

  Good luck, good luck doing that. Have you been? Have you been to the Vatican? That's wild, right? You're like, what did you guys do? Where'd you get all this shit?

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:25Joe Rogan?

  When you're walking through it, you're like, what?

• 32:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:27Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 32:27Speaker 02

  The weird tapestries where you stand on one side, it looks like this, and the other side looks like that.

• 32:31Joe Rogan?

  Insane art. Like, the craziest, but it was almo- it's almost like a crazy person's house. Where they have so much art, almost like the studio. They have so much art, it's stacked up everywhere, except it's worth billions of dollars.

• 32:42Speaker 02

  I was laughing, because didn't JD Vance get in trouble for pictures in the Sistine Chapel or something?

• 32:47Joe Rogan?

  Did he?

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Or, uh, what's, is it Sistine Chapel? And I, and I think he did. And you know, you're not supposed to any pictures. And I remember going in there, and they told you, like, put your phone away. And I'm literally in there, trying to be quiet and everything. And everybody around me is loud, they got their camera out to take photos and shit.

• 33:05Joe Rogan?

  Photo of JD Vance inside Sistine Chapel sparks backlash.

• 33:08Speaker 02

  I, everybody around me, when I was there, was taking pictures.

• 33:12Joe Rogan?

  It is forbidden to take photographs or films of any type of, with any type of electronic equipment inside the Sistine Chapel, but everybody's doing that. I have photos.

• 33:22Speaker 02

  It wasn't in 2015.

• 33:23Joe Rogan?

  It wasn't when I went either.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  Everybody else was doing it in 2015.

• 33:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, I went in, I think, 2018 or 2019, and we took a bunch of photos. The photo was taken by an official White House photographer. And there's precedent for political figures being photographed inside.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  The whole thing is weird. Vatican, Vatican City.

• 33:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:40Speaker 02

  Who guards the Vatican?

• 33:41Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  Why is it the Swiss Guard? You know, why?

• 33:45Joe Rogan?

  It's a country.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  It's a country.

• 33:47Joe Rogan?

  You can't, nobody gets extradited from that when they're accused of crimes against humanity. Like, like, uh, Ratziger.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  Who's Ratziger?

• 33:55Joe Rogan?

  He was the pope that had to step down, because he was one of the guys that was moving people.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, from like, the spotlight?

• 34:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He was one of those guys that was, when they would catch someone molesting kids, he'd move them to another place where they, one guy molested a hundred deaf kids. There's a whole documentary about it. He just looked creepy.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  He looks super creepy.

• 34:16Joe Rogan?

  But there's also, like, of, of, one of the buildings that the Vatican owns is, there's a gay nightclub in the building.

• 34:23Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 34:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like, some gay, gay sex club.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. No way.

• 34:28Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's weird, they probably didn't know.

• 34:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:30Joe Rogan?

  Probably thought it was a prayer center. They were feeding hungry people or something.

• 34:36Joe Rogan?

  Feeding some hungry butts.

• 34:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's just crazy how these elite people in power, before the internet, they were just doing stuff.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Oh shit.

• 34:51Joe Rogan?

  They had complete control of the media and they were just doing whatever they wanted to do and everything was in secret and they had these little, you know, fucking meetings, like skull and bone types meetings, where they all wear cloaks and shit and go to Bohemian Grove and all that.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Is that shit not happening anymore?

• 35:07Joe Rogan?

  I think Bohemian Grove is very toned down now. I think they use it now for meetings and stuff.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  Thanks Alex Jones.

• 35:13Joe Rogan?

  People get together. Yeah, Alex and John Ronson fucked it up for everybody. But I know a bunch of people have been. Kid Rock went. He told me he went.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  There's a feeder group to it.

• 35:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah?

• 35:23Speaker 02

  There's a feeder group to the main group, yeah.

• 35:25Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean?

• 35:25Speaker 02

  It means they invite entertainers and different people.

• 35:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so they say nice things?

• 35:30Speaker 02

  Well, then they figure out who they can hand select for the, uh, for the main group.

• 35:34Joe Rogan?

  I got invited.

• 35:35Speaker 02

  I did too.

• 35:40Joe Rogan?

  I'm not gonna go. No fucking way. No fucking way. I remember what Nixon said about it back in the day. The fattiest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, like these guys all got together when they know no one's around.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  Did we talk last time about the Nixon, um, uh, what's the Jackie Gleason story?

• 35:58Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a wild story.

• 36:00Joe Rogan?

  It's my favorite. Of all the UFO stories, that's my favorite, cause it's plausible.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:05Joe Rogan?

  You know, Nixon and Jackie were buddies. And if you're buddies with a guy and he likes to drink, and the two of you are playing golf and drinking, he's like, "You wanna see some shit?"

• 36:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:13Joe Rogan?

  That's what I would do if I was the president, I was friends with Jackie Gleason.

• 36:16Speaker 02

  Bet him, alright. You win, uh, you know, uh, fund your campaign. I win, you show me some shit.

• 36:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, right? Play a round of golf.

• 36:27Speaker 02

  I wanna see Area 51.

• 36:29Joe Rogan?

  If they brought you, would you, would you open your mouth if they said, "Aaron, we're gonna take you, but you gotta, you gotta just keep this on a DL."

• 36:35Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 36:36Joe Rogan?

  I think so too.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. I wanna see some shit.

• 36:38Joe Rogan?

  Here's the thing.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  The remote viewing stuff in Area 51 is pretty wild though. People have talked about, and you had a person talking about remote viewing recently, but how it's guarded by, I mean, CIA's been doing it forever, and finally some of that's declassified, but they have their remote viewing, like guards, who guard secret places like that, especially Area 51, it's pretty wild.

• 36:57Joe Rogan?

  They're remote viewing while they're guards?

• 36:59Speaker 02

  They have guards who, whose role is you're a remote viewing guard.

• 37:04Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  So their duty is they're, they go into their astro bodies and guard the facility.

• 37:11Joe Rogan?

  What does that entail? Like, what are they guarding it from?

• 37:14Speaker 02

  From other astral viewers who try and get in there.

• 37:16Joe Rogan?

  What? Like, you block them?

• 37:18Speaker 02

  There's been a lot of people online have talked about this.

• 37:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a lot of people online to talk about a lot of things, though, unfortunately. I, I'm open-minded with this remote viewing stuff, because the Hal put-off stuff was fascinating. When he was describing it, like, how accurate it had been. When they, there was that crashed jet from Russia that they were trying to recover, and they found it within a couple-mile radius. They were able to recover it before Russia was. It's pretty wild.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:44Joe Rogan?

  Like, if that's a real ability that's, that people have.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  You think it's bullshit?

• 37:49Joe Rogan?

  No. No, I don't think it's bullshit. I think they spent too much money on it, and they, they researched it for too long for it to be total bullshit. And Hal put-off was very compelling. I've never seen it in action, though. So, you know, remain.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  You've never seen what? Somebody?

• 38:05Joe Rogan?

  Remote view.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 38:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean.

• 38:07Speaker 02

  You gotta practice.

• 38:08Joe Rogan?

  I, I would like to know. I mean, imagine if someone could show you how to do it, and you could do it?

• 38:13Speaker 02

  That'd be incredible. I'd love to.

• 38:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Where would you go with it?

• 38:18Speaker 02

  Area 51?

• 38:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, 100%.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:19Joe Rogan?

  Right. If you could time remote view, I'd go right into when Bob Lazar was working there, like, "Show me."

• 38:26Speaker 02

  I'd go Roswell, 1947.

• 38:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, there's a lot of those, man.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  We were talking off, off-camera about, about that Element.

• 38:35Joe Rogan?

  115?

• 38:35Speaker 02

  115.

• 38:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  When do you, how long do you think it is? Because one thing I think about is, like, if you think, you know, our parents' age, right? Like, what they lived through technological, and like, all the advances since 50s, 60s and stuff to now.

• 38:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  Fast forward another 30, 40 years for us. Like, at what point does some of this technology really come out? The anti-gravity stuff, the disclosure, the OFOs, the...

• 39:03Joe Rogan?

  It's a good question. What Hal Puthoff said was that during the Bush administration, they put together a panel of scientists and experts and they gave them a task. The task was compile a list of things that would be disrupted by disclosure. They said if we disclose that we have recovered crashed vehicles of non-human intelligence and biological remains, what would be the implications? And so they had a list of pros, things that would be disrupted and then things that we would benefit from, and they put a numerical value to each one of them and it was overwhelming by every one of them that it would be overall negative. And so they decided not to disclose.

• 39:47Speaker 02

  What was on the con side beside religion, because I know religion is a big part of it?

• 39:51Joe Rogan?

  Religion was a big part of it, government. Why would anybody believe that we have control over anything if there are some super intelligent beings from some unknown realm, whether it's another planet or another dimension, that have technology far beyond our comprehension? And then there's the religious aspect, which gets really weird that Lazar talked about, where there's this immense folder that he encountered that has to do with religion, that has to do with how aliens created these religions in order to protect what they say human beings are here for, that we're containers. So like of what?

• 40:33Joe Rogan?

  And he said, I don't know, they referred to us as containers. And the religion was designed to sort of keep the peace, to keep some sort of a moral structure.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  And the idea is if we had this disclosure, this information, that the moral structure, the moral fabric of society would disintegrate?

• 40:51Joe Rogan?

  It would crumble, because we wouldn't be able to control people at all. If we all knew that there was something beyond our comprehension that's here all the time, that can hide in plain sight, that lives in the ocean, they have bases in the ocean, they can mask their appearance and fly at insane rates of speed.

• 41:13Joe Rogan?

  Just appear in places and they can, they essentially have complete control over everything that goes on on earth. That would, you know, we would lose all of our faith in any sort of governmental institution because these are just fools.

• 41:27Speaker 02

  What's wrong with that?

• 41:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, they think it's bad and they're, you know, to have this power and all of a sudden it just gets taken away voluntarily by you. Like, if they could go back in time and stop the internet, don't you think they would?

• 41:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:44Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they had any idea what the internet was gonna be when they released it. They're probably like, what could be the harm of letting people get on AOL?

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:51Joe Rogan?

  You've got mail.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  They're gonna be tired from the dial-up. It's gonna take too long, people are gonna lose interest.

• 41:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Nobody had any idea that you were gonna be carrying 5G data in your phone, in your pocket, that's capable of sending video all over the world instantaneously. And then social media, where you could share that information and people would upload it to thousands of other places, instantaneously, have no control over information anymore? Before, they just have total control of the distribution of any information. They had complete control of propaganda.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  And they, and they don't now?

• 42:24Joe Rogan?

  No. No, they don't now.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  They don't have total control, but they have control.

• 42:28Joe Rogan?

  We're talking. So they, they don't have total control. They don't have total control if we're talking.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  They don't have total control, but they have total, uh, viewing access.

• 42:37Joe Rogan?

  Yes. That, well, that's the weird thing about the UFO stuff, right? Because there's two problems with disclosure. One of the problems is these people who were involved in these programs had to have lied to Congress.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:53Joe Rogan?

  There's misappropriation of funds. They had to get money in some sort of a way, and they got this money through some sort of a misappropriation of funds, and that is highly illegal. So, there has to be, this is that Age of Disclosure documentary, I don't know if you saw it. It hasn't come out yet, but they had a screening at, um, South by Southwest. Jamie and I saw it. It's really good. It's really incredible, but it's, it's all people talking about what they know, what they've seen, and what the problems are.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  What kind of people? Is like, is Bob, is Bob one of the guys?

• 43:23Joe Rogan?

  Bob's not one of the guys, but Hal Pudoff's in there.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, Hal was talking about that.

• 43:27Joe Rogan?

  I mean, there's a ton of people.

• 43:28Speaker 02

  When's that coming out?

• 43:29Joe Rogan?

  I do not know.

• 43:30Speaker 02

  Is it coming out theater-wise, or is it coming out like on a streaming service?

• 43:33Joe Rogan?

  It'll probably come out on a streaming service, I had to guess, but it could come out in the theaters as well.

• 43:37Speaker 02

  They're not gonna try and bury it?

• 43:38Joe Rogan?

  No, I mean, I don't think you can at this point.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  Too big, yeah.

• 43:42Joe Rogan?

  Everybody already knows that it's done and it's out there.

• 43:44Speaker 02

  I think that's how disclosure is ultimately gonna happen, it's just gonna just, one day they're just gonna be like, "Boop, there it is."

• 43:49Joe Rogan?

  They think this documentary is gonna break the well.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  Really?

• 43:53Joe Rogan?

  Or break the dam, rather, yeah. They think this, this one's pretty intense. It's got basically everybody that worked on Christopher Mellon, all these different people that worked on all these different programs, saying exactly what we have, what we know, how long it's been going on. And this is why they have not released these things. So there's that, there's that aspect of it, the lying to Congress, the misappropriation of funds. And then there's the other thing is that, how do you work on this stuff? Well, the government can't really do it on their own. So what do they do? They bring in defense contractors that make jets and spaceships and shit. Those are the people that get access to this material. If they do have back-engineered crafts, and if they do have something that they recovered that's a crashed

• 44:31Joe Rogan?

  vehicle of non-human intelligence, non-human origin, not of this world, and they're back-engineering this, that company that's back-engineering that has an enormous advantage over their competitors. And so their competitors would just sue. Because like, why would you give them access to, why would Raytheon get access to it when GE doesn't, or, you know, whatever the company is? So there's a, but, they, they outlined the issues with, you know, disclosure. And the res- the resolution, they said, there has to be some sort of a blanket amnesty to everybody that worked in that program. And they have to say,

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Of course, that's, that's,

• 45:08Joe Rogan?

  That's the only way.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  That's how they do it, though.

• 45:10Joe Rogan?

  But that's how they have to do it. If you, if we're gonna find out the information, we, we have one of two things we have to accept. You know, we have to either accept that these people are gonna be able to keep this stuff in power because, or keep, the people that are in power are gonna be able to keep this stuff secret, because if they don't, then they're gonna get in trouble, and they're never gonna release it, and so we're all gonna be in the dark forever. Or we just say, okay. In that, within that scenario, they're gonna be off the hook no matter what. So let's just let them off the hook for the greater good of mankind and understand what the fuck we're really looking at. What are we really dealing with? What do we really know? And so I'm hopeful that that's a possibility.

• 45:49Speaker 02

  So am I, and especially the last 10 years, there's been so much stuff that's been out there.

• 45:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  Videos and.

• 45:54Joe Rogan?

  Basically from 2017, from that New York Times article in 2017. When it was on the front page of the New York Times, that kind of opened up a lot of people's eyes. Like, okay, this is a real story now, because now it's not ridiculous anymore.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  And now the next step is.

• 46:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, there's gotta be a lot of bullshit. There's a lot of fake stuff. There's a lot of misinformation.

• 46:15Speaker 02

  Don't you think that we're at least 10 to 20 years behind, even whistleblowers, what they actually have? So even if they were to release some of the stuff, they still have other stuff that's just so far more advanced than we could possibly imagine.

• 46:28Joe Rogan?

  I would imagine. I, I, I bet they have some.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  That's what's crazy, they can keep a lid on that, though.

• 46:34Joe Rogan?

  It is.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  That is crazy.

• 46:34Joe Rogan?

  It's impressive, but it's all, we just both said that we would shut up.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 46:40Joe Rogan?

  You'd, I mean, they, especially in today's day and age.

• 46:44Speaker 02

  Well, the threat of death is.

• 46:46Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 46:46Speaker 02

  It's a pretty strong motivator for.

• 46:48Joe Rogan?

  Also, there's no way to hide that stuff unless you're a chatty gay guy and James O'Keefe gets you on camera.

• 46:57Speaker 02

  Get off Grindr.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  Watch out.

• 47:00Joe Rogan?

  I wonder what apps they're using to get those chatty gay guys to give up all the juice.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  That's pretty impressive, yeah.

• 47:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I would stop hiring chatty gay guys if I was involved in anything secret.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Don't do it.

• 47:11Joe Rogan?

  Those guys, they'll spill the bill, the bill, they'll spill the beans.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  They've got a lot of the big fish, too.

• 47:15Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's incredible.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  Is that there?

• 47:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 47:18Speaker 02

  Guys.

• 47:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Pretty wild.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  CNN.

• 47:20Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah, wild, stuff that you should be in jail for what they found.

• 47:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that, all that stuff is like horrible.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Nobody goes to jail. Nobody gets held accountable.

• 47:32Joe Rogan?

  Except this lady with her frogs. That lady's a problem.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Well, if you're, if you're threatening the establishment.

• 47:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  She probably is, she probably figured something out.

• 47:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the illusion of freedom. We have a lot more freedom than every other country, but still, it's, it's an illusion.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  But you can't go after the, you know, the, in this country, two of the big ones are. Vaccines and cancer. And that's what I've been actually diving deep into the last about year because I've had a number of people in my life get cancer. And you've had a lot of people on the show who've talked about, you know.

• 48:04Joe Rogan?

  SV40.

• 48:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  But also the remedies they've been using. Me and Mel Gibson are here talking about Fenben and ivermectin.

• 48:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  And that's what I've been in the weeds, you know, learning about the last year. So it's really fascinating.

• 48:19Joe Rogan?

  Such a disservice to humankind by demonizing ivermectin in order to push vaccines. Because in so many sheep and so many dullards and so many people that are just boomers that believe everything that's in the news, ivermectin is a fool's medication.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  Even today.

• 48:36Joe Rogan?

  Today. Yeah, even today. Like if you told, they would have to be dying of cancer to even consider taking that.

• 48:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I had a doctor tell me that was, why would you want to take horse paste?

• 48:47Joe Rogan?

  What a dumb doctor.

• 48:48Speaker 02

  What the fuck are you talking about?

• 48:50Joe Rogan?

  What a dumb ass doctor. Imagine saying that. Did you, did you ask him, do you know the history of the use of that drug?

• 48:59Speaker 02

  I did, it ended the conversation. It was like.

• 49:01Joe Rogan?

  It's literally like saying penicillin. Don't take penicillin. They use that on dogs.

• 49:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:07Speaker 02

  I don't care that's got a Nobel Prize, doesn't matter.

• 49:09Joe Rogan?

  Nobel Prize for use in humans on the World Health Organization's list of essential medications.

• 49:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:15Joe Rogan?

  And horse paste.

• 49:17Speaker 02

  The thing about cancer is wild is that the majority of doctors during this process will not touch diet at all.

• 49:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 49:26Speaker 02

  And will tell you diet makes zero difference. And my problem is the same problem I had with the vaccine and really the medical industry in general is there's no more informed consent.

• 49:37Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  The informed consent around cancer would be that it's a metabolic issue. And because it's a metabolic issue and you're talking about anaerobic cells. Then restricting sugar from your diet is a good place to start.

• 49:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  And none of these fucking doctors will talk about diet, sugars, glucose, anaerobic cells, nothing.

• 49:55Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Someone I'm close to. We do radiation and chemi- that's it.

• 49:58Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's very profitable.

• 49:59Speaker 02

  Extremely profitable.

• 50:00Joe Rogan?

  The problem is chemotherapy, the doctors are incentivized in a way to prescribe chemotherapy. Yes, yeah, they're both profitable.

• 50:09Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 50:10Joe Rogan?

  Which is really dangerous. It's really dangerous when you make more money if you give people medication. Cause then you get doctors like that doctor in Ohio that got arrested that was giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer. He did it to like a lot of people. He just was trying to make more money.

• 50:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:27Joe Rogan?

  And when you incentivize, and they're in that kind of a position of power where most people don't know what's going on. And this is the voice of authority. And they're like, look, your diet doesn't matter. Doesn't matter at all. They told it to someone close to me that got cancer. Diet doesn't matter at all. Well, of course it matters. It matters to everything. And it certainly matters to your metabolic health and your fucking immune system.

• 50:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:47Joe Rogan?

  And then we know for a fact that cancer thrives on glucose.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:51Joe Rogan?

  If you're in like a high sugar diet and a highly processed food diet, that is, you're ripe for inflammation. You're gonna get all kinds of inflammation that you wouldn't get if you were on a restricted diet. That's higher in animal fats and, and, and low in processed sugar.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, ketogenic diet is a great place to start. Cause you're restricting your body.

• 51:13Joe Rogan?

  But there was another article recently about how ketogenic diets are giving people cancer. Or that people are getting heart attacks and strokes on ketogenic diets.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  It's happened by the American Medical Association, written by them or?

• 51:25Joe Rogan?

  It's probably by the same people that paid off the people to say that sugar wasn't the cause of heart disease. And that it was saturated fat, that the ones that was going on in the 50s and the 60s.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  Food pyramid creators, probably.

• 51:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a mess. But fortunately, there's enough alternative sources of information that some people, I would estimate it's like between 10 and 30% of the people are getting the truth. And then there's 70% of the people that either don't have friends that know these things, don't have access to these websites, aren't getting informed, that there's a lot of these people that are doctors who are very credentialed, experts in their field, who have stepped outside of the narrative. And they're doing it because they feel they have a moral obligation. And they're saying like, this is a problem, this SV40 that we find in vaccines, simian virus 440 is known to cause cancer. And they found traces of it in the COVID-19 vaccine.

• 52:22Joe Rogan?

  And so, in some of the batches of the COVID-19 vaccine, they find SV40. SV40 gives people cancer, boom in cancer, no connection.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  Isn't it ripe, too, that AstraZeneca is making a cancer vaccine?

• 52:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's just because they're nice. They're good people. Did you ever see what AstraZeneca means in Latin?

• 52:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:44Joe Rogan?

  What does it mean?

• 52:45Speaker 02

  I just saw that. It means, Jamie, bring it up, what does it mean again?

• 52:49Joe Rogan?

  Something horrible.

• 52:50Speaker 02

  Something about...

• 52:51Joe Rogan?

  Something death.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't care about life, or something.

• 52:53Joe Rogan?

  They stick it right in your face. It's like, either it's a wild coincidence, or they stick it right in your face.

• 53:02Speaker 02

  Come on, somebody's got it laying it out.

• 53:04Joe Rogan?

  Um, okay.

• 53:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, here we go. Post incorrectly.

• 53:10Joe Rogan?

  Incorrectly interprets the meaning of AstraZeneca.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  Oh, writers, yep.

• 53:12Joe Rogan?

  So what is the correct one? Okay, what are they saying it said? Weapon to kill. Users claim AstraZeneca means weapon to kill. The posts here, here, and here show a screenshot of the translation, Astra, Z, and Nekar.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  Weapon that kills, yeah.

• 53:28Joe Rogan?

  Weapon that kills. Alleging that Astra means weapon, in Hinduism, Z means that, in Polish, well, there's a bunch of different languages. Nekar, I mean, that's like, a little bit connecting the dotsies. Captions, but what does it really mean? What are they saying it really means?

• 53:47Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't mean anything, or is it just one of them names? Asteros is rooted in Greek astron, meaning a star. Zenica is an invented name created by an agency instructed to find a name which bring, began with a letter from either the top or bottom of the alphabet, was phonetically memorable of no more than three syllables, and do not have an offensive meaning in any language. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hmm. It's all weird shit, like, why would you do that? What, like, just the way that you're creating this name? You don't want it to be offensive in any way, and you want it to be phonetically memorable, and like... This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog.

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• 56:51Joe Rogan?

  You know, it's like...

• 56:53Speaker 02

  There was a thing on the internet a while back about when they had that crazy campaign about Balenciaga as well. What Balenciaga, they broke down what Balenciaga means, which is bail is king, bail being the god of the Old Testament.

• 57:06Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see that.

• 57:07Speaker 02

  And then Balenciaga put together that crazy campaign where they spelled Balenciaga with two A's, like bail, and they had the kids in it. They had like books in the frame that were by a...

• 57:18Joe Rogan?

  Pedophiles.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  Pedophile.

• 57:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 57:19Speaker 02

  All crazy stuff. It's like, is that just fucking coincidence? Or are you trying to...

• 57:24Joe Rogan?

  It's right in your face.

• 57:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:26Joe Rogan?

  It's, I think a lot of these people are super arrogant and they've been running these kinds of operations long before the internet existed. So they still behave in the same way. It's like when politicians get caught saying things and they said, "I've never said that." And then they put this like whole long reel of them saying it over and over again. It's because they forget. They used to be able to just do that. They used to be able to just bullshit. And now there's too many internet sleuths that are out there just immediately pulling things up. And then, of course, those are the internet sleuths that you get massive pushback if you platform. If you talk to those people, everybody's like, "Why are you having those people on?"

• 58:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, you had Ian Carroll on.

• 58:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, exactly. And, you know, fucking everybody freaked out.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  Why?

• 58:12Joe Rogan?

  Because he's really into it and he's uncovering and maybe he's wrong about some things.

• 58:17Speaker 02

  But he does some crazy research.

• 58:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, maybe he's right about things. That's the problem. It's not what he's wrong about that's the problem.

• 58:23Speaker 02

  He opened my eyes to the, uh, to the, what does he call it? The mega corporation that owns everything. He went through like all the different brands and the fact that it's basically Vanguard, State Street and, um, BlackRock that own everything and then they own each other. And he's got, he's got stuff on his, on his website that, that shows if you're looking for a brand, who parent company is, who owns that company. It all comes back to basically this conglomerate of BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, um, uh, JP Morgan and, uh, Fidelity, I think are, you know, they're kind of the main four or five there.

• 58:57Joe Rogan?

  Whatever happened to like breaking up monopolies?

• 58:59Speaker 02

  Oh, no. They only did it back in the day with, uh, with, uh, you know, Rockefeller.

• 59:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, they did it with Microsoft, didn't they?

• 59:06Speaker 02

  Did they?

• 59:07Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  I think these companies are like the pharmaceutical companies. They, they realize like, um, what's the Live Nation? You know, like the, these huge monopolies that don't own everything. They're like, it's just a, uh, uh, an added cost, you know? I'm gonna get sued at some point for a billion and we're gonna make 15 billion off it.

• 59:25Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 59:25Speaker 02

  It's a 14 billion dollar profit. So whatever, it's a drop in the bucket.

• 59:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's what happens when drugs get pulled and then people get sued. It's, they never get.

• 59:34Speaker 02

  Vioxx, you know.

• 59:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they never get fined more than they made.

• 59:38Speaker 02

  Never.

• 59:39Joe Rogan?

  Never. It's always less than they made.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  And the vaccine's the perfect windfall because they have immunity.

• 59:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 59:44Speaker 02

  They have the, the perfect immunity.

• 59:46Joe Rogan?

  They're talking about pulling that and that's gonna be the biggest fight. That'll be the biggest fight. Cause there's, there's still this narrative out there and, uh, when I had Suzanne Humphries on.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  First of all, that was one of the greatest and you got me onto her book.

• 59:57Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 59:57Speaker 02

  I read her book and then I read Bobby's book and.

• 1:00:00Joe Rogan?

  Her book's incredible.

• 1:00:01Speaker 02

  Her book is unbelievable.

• 1:00:02Joe Rogan?

  And no one can refute it.

• 1:00:03Speaker 02

  No, and I gave that book to a lot of my friends who are of, uh, you know, of child, uh, childbearing age. And they're starting to have kids. Like just, I'm not telling you what to do, but just at least research this. You have, you know, all the information. Because they're not gonna give you the information. I, my friend just had a kid and got, uh, him and his wife got, uh, You know, God, I don't know what the right word is, but got kind of harassed for not, you know, jabbing up their kid on day one of

• 1:00:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  Of her life.

• 1:00:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, I experienced that when my kids were born.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:32Joe Rogan?

  They wanted you to dose them up. And we were like, no.

• 1:00:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:35Joe Rogan?

  No, we're waiting. We're not doing anything for years.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:38Joe Rogan?

  We had a very good pediatrician, though, who wanted us to get the kids vaccinated, but on a delayed schedule. He didn't believe in doing it all at once. I mean, it's like, what, you can't, you're not even supposed to eat sushi while you're breastfeeding. You know?

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:54Joe Rogan?

  You're not even supposed to eat sushi while you're pregnant, because you could get some sort of a parasite. And yet, you're gonna take pregnant women and dose them up with this experimental vaccine, air quote vaccine, experimental medication, this gene editing.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, they changed the definition.

• 1:01:08Joe Rogan?

  They changed the definition. But there was no studies on whether or not women were getting damaged.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  No studies got released.

• 1:01:15Joe Rogan?

  Right. Yeah. And now there's some study that it's destroying their eggs.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:01:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Have you seen that?

• 1:01:22Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:01:22Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find that. I bet you can't.

• 1:01:24Speaker 02

  That, cancers.

• 1:01:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. See if you can find the eggs there.

• 1:01:27Speaker 02

  Turbo cancers.

• 1:01:28Joe Rogan?

  I know I saved the egg thing. I can definitely find that one.

• 1:01:31Speaker 02

  People dropping, kids dropping.

• 1:01:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's all very dark, dude. It really is, because the more you look, the more you find.

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  What about the, what about the nanobots?

• 1:01:41Joe Rogan?

  What about them? What are you thinking?

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  Well, I've heard, heard some rumblings that, you know, that was kind of like a fringe conspiracy theory that there was some nanobots, particles that were in the vaccine.

• 1:01:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'm not buying into that, unless I see more, because there was a lot of that. People were saying, there's magnets in there, look, the metal sticks to your injection site.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  Supposedly, there's a frequency that brings the particles together.

• 1:02:08Joe Rogan?

  Nanobots. I haven't heard that.

• 1:02:10Speaker 02

  Brings the particles together in the body and creates a, that's, it's like a tracking device.

• 1:02:14Joe Rogan?

  I just sent Jamie this study, VAERS-adjusted data and other derived from the MIT Florida Department of Health study findings that yield a conservative range of 470,000 to 670, 600,000 American deaths from the COVID-19 mRNA shots.

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  That's it?

• 1:02:35Joe Rogan?

  More than, well, just that alone, that's a lot of people, man. More than World War I, World War II, and Vietnam combined. If that's true.

• 1:02:46Joe Rogan?

  It indicates Pfizer, this is Pfizer alone, so this is not even Moderna. Pfizer alone likely killed over 470,000 Americans. They found a 36% increase in all-cause mortality among Pfizer recipients versus Moderna.

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, but they saved millions.

• 1:03:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I keep hearing that.

• 1:03:06Joe Rogan?

  I think the saving millions thing is even based on the idea that you wouldn't get COVID if you got the vaccine, which turned out to not be true at all.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  None of what they said turned out to be true.

• 1:03:17Joe Rogan?

  No, no.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Can't get it, you can't spread it, you're more protected, more robust immunity.

• 1:03:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what was I just gonna look up?

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  Winter of death for the non-vaxxed.

• 1:03:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that was a good one. That was a good one.

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  That's my favorite.

• 1:03:30Joe Rogan?

  Um, yeah. There's more studies coming out about myocarditis.

• 1:03:39Speaker 02

  Who's gonna be held accountable, though?

• 1:03:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's a good question. Oh, here's the fertility study.

• 1:03:44Speaker 02

  Who's gonna apologize? I haven't heard any apologies, have you?

• 1:03:48Joe Rogan?

  Nah.

• 1:03:48Speaker 02

  Anybody apologize? CNN apologized to you yet for putting that filter on your face?

• 1:03:51Joe Rogan?

  No, it'd be nice.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:53Joe Rogan?

  They should probably apologize.

• 1:03:54Speaker 02

  Get Sunjay, get Gupta back on here, sure he'll apologize.

• 1:03:58Joe Rogan?

  No, um, I'd have him back on, I guess. I don't know what we'd talk about, but, you know, there's only so much-

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  CNN Plus, maybe?

• 1:04:05Joe Rogan?

  You can defend.

• 1:04:08Joe Rogan?

  That was a fun trip. That was only a few hundred million dollar failure.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  Oops.

• 1:04:14Speaker 02

  They gotta be doing a little better now that Trump's back in, they got something to talk about.

• 1:04:17Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they are.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  No?

• 1:04:18Joe Rogan?

  No, I think the, I think CNN's ratings are abysmal, and the only thing that saves them is that people just are consistent, they just go on there out of habit. I don't think people are seeking it out. So this is fertility study. A study of 1.3 million showed successful conceptions per 1,000 women were considerably lower for women who were COVID-19 mRNA vaccinated. Preliminary results call for further studies of the potential influence of COVID-19 vaccination on human fertility. And I think in that thread, they were talking about what it does to, uh-

• 1:04:57Speaker 02

  Ovaries.

• 1:04:57Joe Rogan?

  Their eggs and ovaries, yeah.

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  That's right there, yep. This is what a lot of the conspiracy theorists were talking about when the vax was coming out.

• 1:05:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, it's like.

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  Which, by the way, the conspiracy theorists are undefeated still.

• 1:05:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, conspiracy theorists are way more accurate than CNN. Way more, even if they got things wrong. Like, let's say there's no nanobots in the shots. But even whatever that, forget all that. I think the nanobots in the shot would be too expensive. That's why I think it's not real.

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm with you.

• 1:05:27Joe Rogan?

  I mean, maybe a few people got it.

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 1:05:32Joe Rogan?

  I still don't think Biden got it on TV. I think they salined that dude. I don't think they put a real COVID vaccine in him. Members are, they're vaccinated.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  They didn't aspirate on any of the people on.

• 1:05:42Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  On TV.

• 1:05:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, or anybody I know that got the shot.

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:47Joe Rogan?

  I asked everybody who got the shot, did they aspirate your needle? And they, what do you mean? Well, in the syringe, when they plunge it in, to make sure you're not in a blood vessel, they pull it back and they see if there's blood. And if there's blood in it, they find a new injection site. Did they do that?

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:06:01Joe Rogan?

  No, they just plunged that motherfucker in. Everybody just got plunged. Yeah, and then there was the idea that it was gonna stay local. Don't worry, it'll stay local. No, not only is it not staying local, your body's producing spike protein up to 700-plus days after the shot.

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  And some of the autopsies coming out, a little bit creepy.

• 1:06:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the other thing. Not just autopsies, but coroners who are finding these crazy clots.

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  That's what I mean, coroners, yeah.

• 1:06:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, these crazy fucking clots.

• 1:06:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:30Joe Rogan?

  That look like, like, big white worms that are inside people's bodies that they've never seen before.

• 1:06:36Speaker 02

  I don't think that, that's, hold people accountable.

• 1:06:38Joe Rogan?

  Where's?

• 1:06:39Speaker 02

  Hold them accountable.

• 1:06:39Joe Rogan?

  The news. Where's the news during their job? If the news was really the news, if you guys were really there to tell us all the information that we should be concerned about. Like, perhaps there, we are wrong about what this shot does, and perhaps with some people, maybe that, where it did get into their bloodstream, which is what they think happened, was the people that they didn't aspirate, because they didn't aspirate anybody. They think some of those people went right into their bloodstream, and then your body's fighting this off like it's an intruder, and and that's where you get the myocarditis and all sorts of other neurological conditions, and it's crazy.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  We gotta do a second shot, though, and then a third, and then a fourth.

• 1:07:19Joe Rogan?

  And then ninth.

• 1:07:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:22Joe Rogan?

  There's people out there that took nine of those fucking things.

• 1:07:24Speaker 02

  Hey, guess what? It's just like the flu shot.

• 1:07:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  They get you for one strand

• 1:07:28Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  of the flu per season.

• 1:07:30Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, it makes you twenty-five percent more likely to get sick with something else.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  But you're way more protected.

• 1:07:36Joe Rogan?

  I've never had one. I mean, I think maybe I had one once. Maybe somebody made me get one once. I don't know. But I never get the fucking flu shot. And people are like, I don't get, I get the flu shot every year and I've never got the flu. Well, bitch, I don't get the flu either. Like, what are you saying? Like, I got the flu like once and like a couple of years ago for like a day or two days. I got a couple of vitamin IVs and I was good to go. Like, this idea that you have to get this fucking shot, are you gonna get the flu? And if you get the flu, you're gonna die, like.

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  That's a lemming effect. That's a lemming effect. They just, I gotta do this, everybody else is doing it. If I don't do it, I'm outside the herd. If I'm outside the herd, I'm outside of, you know, my livelihood.

• 1:08:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's also, you don't wanna get the flu. The flu sucks. You don't wanna be laid up in bed, out of work for a week.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Natural immunity. Contraction and beating anything, just about.

• 1:08:19Joe Rogan?

  Which is probably why I don't have the flu.

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  Well, maybe diet has something to do with it, too.

• 1:08:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, a lot of things have to do with it. Yeah.

• 1:08:27Speaker 02

  You don't eat like shit.

• 1:08:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:29Speaker 02

  Maybe take some vitamins.

• 1:08:30Joe Rogan?

  That's a factor.

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  No. Mr. Hotez.

• 1:08:32Joe Rogan?

  What you need is, it's a balanced diet of cheeseburgers.

• 1:08:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was a crazy one, the Hotez one.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  That was a great one.

• 1:08:40Joe Rogan?

  Looking at an overweight guy who's clearly unhealthy, telling you the only way to get healthy is an injection.

• 1:08:44Speaker 02

  No, don't take any vitamins. Really?

• 1:08:47Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't exercise, doesn't take vitamins, eats junk food, like.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:51Joe Rogan?

  And I'm listening to you, why?

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  And those are the people prescribing, going to college to be a doctor, prescribing drugs.

• 1:08:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's really what it boils down to.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  They hook you, they deal with symptoms, they keep you a patient for life.

• 1:09:04Joe Rogan?

  Uh-huh, yeah, and it's.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  And anybody trying to actually heal people and treat the patient.

• 1:09:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're a kook.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  You're a kook.

• 1:09:13Joe Rogan?

  Naturopath kook. What are you saying? Vitamin C.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  You fucking hippie.

• 1:09:18Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ. The really crazy thing from the Suzanne Humphreys book that got me was the connection between DDT and polio.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:09:25Joe Rogan?

  What we call polio.

• 1:09:26Speaker 02

  How about how they change, just like the vax, they change the definition of polio?

• 1:09:30Joe Rogan?

  Right. Once the vaccine was introduced, they completely changed the definition of polio to show this immense drop off of polio.

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  It doesn't exist anymore.

• 1:09:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:09:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, meanwhile, all the other things that could be what people were experiencing symptoms of all still existed.

• 1:09:49Speaker 02

  And most of the diseases cleared up from sanitation, clean air, clean water.

• 1:09:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, when you look at the chart of like when sanitation was introduced, everything goes away.

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we were living in squalor and filth. Human beings were living in outhouses all throughout New York City. No ventilation, people were no nutrition, no food. People were starving to death. They were working horrible hours. And of course, everybody was sick as fuck.

• 1:10:16Speaker 02

  One of my favorite parts about the book was there was during the cowpox epidemic where they were like cutting people's skin and putting like pussy, you know, disease into it as the vaccination. And there was a county in England, I believe, that wasn't doing any of that stuff. And it was the only county that had zero cases or next to zero cases of cowpox in the area and the other counties just hated them because they, you know, were the, you know, anti-establishment, non-vaccinated people. And it's like, what happened today? Like, look at, how come we haven't studied the Amish? Like, there's been a few studies.

• 1:10:52Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  Why do the Amish, you know, live longer lives or healthier? They don't have any SIDS.

• 1:10:59Joe Rogan?

  No autism either.

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  No autism.

• 1:11:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the SIDS thing is the scariest one. Because there's people saying that what SIDS is, is these children dying from vaccines.

• 1:11:11Joe Rogan?

  And that, oh, your kid just died suddenly. Who knows what happened? Well, did anything happen before that? Did you like maybe inject them with a bunch of chemicals?

• 1:11:19Speaker 02

  In the last couple of weeks?

• 1:11:20Joe Rogan?

  Was hepatitis B for a fucking baby, did that go down? You know, what happened? But nobody wants to say it because nobody wants to be responsible for their child dying because they let that happen.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  And instead of going, that's interesting, they go, oh, you're a fucking anti-vaxxer, you're this, you're that, you're anti-science. It's like, the content of what I'm saying is, doesn't it fucking piss you off? That SIDS even exists in the first place? And you just put in this blanket made up? You know, made up, uh, I don't know what the right word is to, to label, label. Oh, it's a sudden infant death syndrome.

• 1:11:51Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  We don't know what it is. It just happened suddenly and it happened to an infant and they died. Uh, wouldn't you want to figure out what the fuck caused this instead of just like, oh, well, we don't know.

• 1:12:00Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:12:01Speaker 02

  There's just a small percentage that just happens to. Well, what happened to the baby in the first, you know, right before, the day before?

• 1:12:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  Two days before, a week before, two weeks before?

• 1:12:10Joe Rogan?

  The Amish in the autism thing is really nuts. They don't find any autism.

• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  They found, in the study I read, they found two cases of, of autism in this Amish population and both were, um, adopted kids.

• 1:12:21Joe Rogan?

  Geez.

• 1:12:22Speaker 02

  Who had been vaccinated.

• 1:12:24Joe Rogan?

  That is so wild.

• 1:12:27Joe Rogan?

  That's so wild. It's like the overall implications are so large that people don't even want to consider the possibility of it. They'd rather keep the blinders on.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  But they.

• 1:12:36Joe Rogan?

  It's like what Carl Sagan about, said about people being bamboozled. That it's easier to bamboozle people than, than to trick them, uh, it, it's easier to trick them than to convince them that they've been tricked. Cause they don't want to believe it.

• 1:12:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:51Joe Rogan?

  And that's what you see. Like people are like, you start talking to them about the possibility that, of these things caused all these problems. And their eyes glaze over. They're like, oh, where are you hearing this? Well, where are you hearing that that's not the case? Why are you so confident to say that this is what happened? People just like blank, like the COVID vaccine saved millions of lives. Millions. Like, how do you know that? How do you know that? How many do you think got fucked up by it? I know a lot of people that got fucked up by it.

• 1:13:18Speaker 02

  So do I.

• 1:13:19Joe Rogan?

  And most people do too, and they don't want to admit it. Well, it's not correlation, causation, it's not correlation.

• 1:13:27Joe Rogan?

  They want to pretend.

• 1:13:28Speaker 02

  Why was, why are they trying so hard to scare the shit out of everybody? Tell me that. Why'd they have fucking death tolls on the, the news, the news stations?

• 1:13:35Joe Rogan?

  Make a lot of money.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  And that's with vaccine, same thing. There's a ton of money.

• 1:13:40Joe Rogan?

  Ton of money.

• 1:13:40Speaker 02

  Doctors get huge bonuses for fully vaccinated kids. That's the truth. Isn't that, I mean, like.

• 1:13:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:46Speaker 02

  Instead of attacking the person that says that, isn't it something you should look into?

• 1:13:50Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  Is that a conflict of interest?

• 1:13:53Joe Rogan?

  It seems like it is.

• 1:13:54Speaker 02

  Should be.

• 1:13:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it seems like it is.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  Let me try one of those.

• 1:13:56Joe Rogan?

  Get in there, dog. You're not gonna try two. You, you want two at least. Come on, get a couple more, man. You're gonna run dry.

• 1:14:07Joe Rogan?

  My friend Brendan Shaw, he had like four, four sixes in his mouth. I'm like, what are you doing? You have four in your mouth? Like dude, I love them. Four. At any given time, I got four in there. Like, that's much. They have one, I think, called the Pablo. Is that what it's called? I think it has 30mg. Like, I tried, I put it in my mouth for a second. I was like, I can't do this. I can't handle this.

• 1:14:33Speaker 03

  This has got a 50.

• 1:14:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god. Oh my god, that's so crazy. That's so much nicotine. You're supposed to have like sixmg a day for the benefits that they're talking about.

• 1:14:45Speaker 02

  Six? That's it?

• 1:14:46Joe Rogan?

  I think that's it. I think that's all you need.

• 1:14:48Speaker 02

  And the benefits increase the more you take?

• 1:14:50Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. We'll find out. Imagine if like they do a study on all these guys that were using tobacco pouches all day. Like Shane Gillis, he fucking swaps a new one out every five minutes, all day long. He's just popping sixes.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  Real American right there.

• 1:15:08Joe Rogan?

  Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. It's a weird, I thought they were super addictive, so I quit for a few days. That was fine. It was nothing. I felt nothing. Like, not even a headache.

• 1:15:20Speaker 02

  You've got to be a stronger will than most people, though.

• 1:15:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I didn't even get a headache. Like, when I quit coffee, I get a headache.

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• 1:17:09Speaker 02

  Sugar, I think, is the biggest addictive substance. You cut sugar out, you do like a whole 30 or whatever, you know?

• 1:17:15Joe Rogan?

  They freak out. Yeah, well, that's another thing that freaks out when people start trying ketogenic diets. They get the keto flu, they call it. Cause your body's like, where's the sugar? You know, and then there's also the problem that a lot of the sugar that we're getting is corn syrup. And corn syrup is, it's sort of a manufactured sugar. So your body, there's an extra step your body has to take to process it. Like, people want to say, oh, well, it's chemically the same as it is from fruit or cane sugar, but it's not. No, no, the science shows that that is not the case, not only that.

• 1:17:51Speaker 02

  Anthony Fauci?

• 1:17:52Joe Rogan?

  Not that guy.

• 1:17:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:17:53Joe Rogan?

  If you criticize Anthony Fauci, you're criticizing science. Okay, what about those fucking AIDS vaccines you gave foster kids, you piece of shit?

• 1:18:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:02Joe Rogan?

  In the 1980s where they died.

• 1:18:04Speaker 02

  What about the polio vaccines your best buddy gave in India and maimed and paralyzed a bunch of kids?

• 1:18:10Joe Rogan?

  How about that? Most of the polio was from vaccines. This is like modern polio. There's like, there's a large percentage of modern polio that is vaccine derived.

• 1:18:19Speaker 02

  The majority, Suzanne says.

• 1:18:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, people, you tell that to people and they go, what?

• 1:18:23Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:18:23Joe Rogan?

  My favorite one is when I, when people get nutty about all this stuff, what about polio? If they didn't have the polio vaccine, I go.

• 1:18:30Speaker 02

  Jonas Salk.

• 1:18:31Joe Rogan?

  What percentage of polio do you think is asymptomatic? Meaning you have polio, but you have no symptoms at all. And they're like, oh. Probably none, none.

• 1:18:40Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:18:41Joe Rogan?

  Ninety-five to ninety-nine percent. You say that and they're like, what? And then you Google it and you see it right in front of your face. And people just go, what the fuck is going on here? Like, what is that? And then Suzanne Humphries, when she connects DDT, where the first cases of polio were from rural communities, where they were spraying DDT on all the crops.

• 1:18:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:59Joe Rogan?

  They're spraying DDT everywhere. No one knew that DDT was so bad for you. They were spraying it everywhere. And not just people were getting polio. Dogs, horses, cows. It was like animals were getting the same symptoms. And polio is not cross, it doesn't cross polio. It doesn't go to these other species.

• 1:19:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:17Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't jump species. It was DDT poisoning.

• 1:19:20Speaker 02

  That's coincidence.

• 1:19:22Joe Rogan?

  It's wild. You tell that to people and their eyes glaze over. It's, and I get it. I get it. I've been there before. It's like it's too much. It's too much to admit, as Carl Sagan says, the bamboozle.

• 1:19:33Speaker 02

  Why, though? Why can't we just be common sense? Like, that's what I was thinking the other day. I was like, I don't want any shit in my water. Let's take out the fluoride. Let's take out the chemicals in our water. In our food, can we take out artificial dyes? Is it too hard to have the same, the same food, US manufacturers, that you, that you put in the food in Europe that doesn't have the dyes in it, that doesn't have the bullshit?

• 1:19:56Joe Rogan?

  From the same company.

• 1:19:57Speaker 02

  That has twenty less ingredients. The same shit for us.

• 1:20:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the same company. No one's saying, don't give us Fruit Loops. I want Fruit Loops. Just give me Fruit Loops and don't give me cancer.

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:09Joe Rogan?

  You can do that. It's still bad for you, but so what? It's less bad for you. Wouldn't that be better? Like, oh, it doesn't look as pretty. What? Once the milk gets in there and everything gets crazy, who gives a fuck? You know, no little kids are looking at that going, I don't like this as much. The colors are dull.

• 1:20:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:27Joe Rogan?

  No, they're gonna eat the Fruit Loops.

• 1:20:28Speaker 02

  But is it too much to just want to have, like, common sense shit? Your vaccines, can we get them just double-blind placebo-tested? Safety testing vaccines.

• 1:20:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're gonna do that now. And this is another thing Bobby's done. Yeah.

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  Come on Bobby.

• 1:20:40Joe Rogan?

  The other thing that Bobby did, did you see that conversation that he had with the dentist about fluoride? Where the dentist was questioning about fluoride. "Oh, you're gonna have a lot more dental surgeries." And then Bobby hits him with the stats about like, well, you don't need that in the water. You could use, if fluoride is so effective, you use it orally, like toothpaste. And mouthwash, and you spit it out. You don't have to swallow it and take it into your, and you probably shouldn't even do that. I don't use fluoride toothpaste.

• 1:21:04Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:21:05Joe Rogan?

  Eddie Bravo had a great point. He's like, if fluoride did so much, why would they specifically advertise toothpaste as not having fluoride? Fluoride-free toothpaste.

• 1:21:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:17Joe Rogan?

  Which is true. That's what I use. I don't have any cavities. I haven't had cavities in fucking ever. I can't remember.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  There's some other ways to, to, to avoid cavities too. You know, like do oil pulling. Just swish some coconut oil around your mouth. Add some baking soda if you want to it. Do you know that's the, somebody was talking about this recently about the, um, the myth around, um, um, uh, root canals?

• 1:21:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the thing, yeah, the root canals can possibly leave bacteria under the skin and...

• 1:21:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's really bad for you. If you have a root canal, I do. I'm getting mine taken out.

• 1:21:49Joe Rogan?

  What are they gonna, you gonna put a drill hole in there, a post and get a new tooth, or are you just gonna go toothless?

• 1:21:54Speaker 02

  New tooth, I think.

• 1:21:55Joe Rogan?

  New tooth.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, it'd be kinda cool. If I was a hockey player, maybe that...

• 1:21:58Joe Rogan?

  Maybe I get a gold tooth like a rapper. Let's go.

• 1:22:00Speaker 02

  Platinum, platinum. Diamond.

• 1:22:03Joe Rogan?

  Have a couple diamonds in my teeth.

• 1:22:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Let's get a grill. I can see with a grill. Next UFC.

• 1:22:09Joe Rogan?

  All diamonds. Vampire grill.

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  Big, big UFC coming up.

• 1:22:12Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Yeah, the Marab, uh, rematch with Sugar Sean, that's an interesting fight. Very interesting fight. I do not know how Sugar Sean keeps that guy off of him, but I do like what he's been doing. Got off social media, stopped smoking weed, just dialed the fuck in. Got his hip fixed, which was a big part, problem. There's a lot of these fighters that take these fights because it's a lot of money, and it's a big event, and they don't wanna cancel, and they got a significant injury.

• 1:22:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:41Joe Rogan?

  Sean could not wrestle. Imagine not being able to wrestle. wrestle in camp and you gotta go face Marab.

• 1:22:47Speaker 02

  Who's gonna get you on the ground?

• 1:22:49Joe Rogan?

  He's a fucking animal. That guy's superhuman. There's no one like him. The cardio that guy has is off the charts. It's just off the charts. I've never seen anything like it. He doesn't get tired. And he's full gas, no brakes, the entire fight. It's just smothering. Overwhelming people, even Nurmagomedov, who's also an animal. He couldn't keep him off of him. This motherfucker's crazy. And then when DC went to visit him on Sunday, the day after the fight, he was outrunning.

• 1:23:21Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:23:22Joe Rogan?

  Yep. DC went to his house to congratulate him and he's like, and DC made a video of it. Cause he showed a video of Marab's gym. He's got this gym in his garage, pretty dope. And he's like, this motherfucker's outrunning. He just won the world title and the next day he's running. He's an animal, man. He's a fucking animal.

• 1:23:41Speaker 02

  I was sad to not see you in Montreal.

• 1:23:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I haven't been going to Canada lately. I talk too much shit. I love Canadian people. I do love Canadian people.

• 1:23:52Speaker 02

  It's a good city.

• 1:23:52Joe Rogan?

  I love Montreal. One of my favorite restaurants, Joe Beef is in Montreal. If you can get in, go there. It's fucking phenomenal. Incredible place, incredible place. They'll let you in. Uh, but there's, uh, the culture in Montreal is amazing. I've always loved it. I've been going to Montreal since the nineties. I love it. I love Vancouver. I love Toronto. I love Canada. Like, I love the people. I just think they're going down a dark road with this government and you can't, it's hard to pull that stuff back. Once they start taking away rules or instituting laws, taking away rights, pulling people's guns, doing all the things that they're doing right now. They allow polygamy now in Ontario. Yeah, they just passed a law. They allow polygamy because they have so many Muslims there.

• 1:24:34Speaker 02

  Are we sure we want them as a 51st state or?

• 1:24:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we can clean it up.

• 1:24:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:41Joe Rogan?

  It's never gonna happen. He was just trying to fuck with them and it had the worst effect possible. Because they thought that Pierre and the conservatives were a shoo-in. That this, like, it was gonna be a, Jordan, the way he described it. He said, "They were in a position where the Liberal Party had a real risk of complete collapse." And then Trump comes along. "I'm gonna turn it into the 51st state." I was on the phone with him and he was telling me, he's like, "I kept calling him Governor Trudeau."

• 1:25:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25:09Joe Rogan?

  And, and he goes, "I was, first of all, I was joking about turning it to a 51st state, but then a lot of people go, 'It's actually a good idea.'" "I think it might be a good idea."

• 1:25:19Joe Rogan?

  It's so crazy. But that is the worst possible effect, because then, Canada united, like, "Hey, these fucking Americans think they're gonna take over us, eh?" And then they-

• 1:25:29Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 1:25:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it became a disaster for Canada, unfortunately. Because if he didn't say that, Pierre would have probably won.

• 1:25:36Speaker 02

  I think, is this guy worse than Trudeau? Is that possible?

• 1:25:39Joe Rogan?

  That's what Jordan believes.

• 1:25:41Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:25:41Joe Rogan?

  Jordan believes he's worse than Trudeau. He's, Jordan thinks he embodies all the worst aspects of the World Economic Forum, you know, young global leaders mentality of control and some of the things that he said about every decision will be made with climate change in mind, like that kinda talk. Climate, this idea of climate change, "Yes, yes, sure, we should definitely clean up the environment, of course." But understand that there's no thing they do, ever, that's completely benevolent. It's not happening. Everything they do is about power and money. And so, if they're pushing global health, or if they're pushing climate control or climate change, it is about power and money.

• 1:26:23Speaker 02

  Restriction of rights coming, for sure.

• 1:26:24Joe Rogan?

  And they just do it in a way where it's kind of undeniable, because the, the future of our, our world, the future of your children, meanwhile, Canada is just pumping coal, like a fucking semi on the highway, just baa, baa. They're just fucking making coal power plants, they're like, "Look at these idiots, we are just gonna make as much electricity as possible, 'cause we're in a fucking technology AI race with these assholes." And then they found out that China has been sneaking in all of these listening devices to these solar systems that they sold us.

• 1:26:59Speaker 02

  What about the transformers?

• 1:27:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the transformers, there's, yeah, a lot of different things. Yeah, Chinese solar power inverters. This is what it is, I'll send it to you, Jamie, if you can't pull it up in time. It's a race to see who gets it first, Jamie or me.

• 1:27:15Joe Rogan?

  You got it, bitch.

• 1:27:18Joe Rogan?

  He's always quicker than me. And he's only typing one hand, which is even crazier.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  That's impressive, Jamie.

• 1:27:23Joe Rogan?

  But, so they found out that there's, they're calling it a ghost in the machine. There's these rogue communications devices found in Chinese solar power inverters. Yeah, of course, if we're stupid and we take their stuff because it's cheaper and there's no limitations on these foreign countries buying up land in America, where you can't buy any fucking land in China. You can't own a company in China, you can't buy land in China. They're smart about it, and we're stupid about it.

• 1:27:50Speaker 02

  We've got another China virus, huh?

• 1:27:51Joe Rogan?

  So rogue communication devices not listed in product documents have been found in some Chinese solar power inverters by US experts who stripped down equipment hooked up to grids to check for security issues. Two people said. Over the past nine months, undocumented communication devices, including cellular radios, have also been found in some batteries from multiple Chinese suppliers. Cellular radios in batteries. I mean, this is the ultimate Trojan horse.

• 1:28:22Joe Rogan?

  I mean, props to China, they're so clever. They knew we're dumb, and they know we're greedy, so we want like cheaper stuff.

• 1:28:27Speaker 02

  Why don't we just shut this shit down?

• 1:28:30Joe Rogan?

  Because we can't make these things. This is what Trump is trying to encourage, like, you know, he talks, "I talked to Tim Cook, Tim, you don't want to be opening up a plant in India, I don't like it." And people's like, "That sounds like fascism." No, it sounds like someone who's concerned about national security. Like, maybe we shouldn't have, like, who knows what's in this? Who knows what's in this? I never looked, I've never looked in this. I don't look. And most of these are made in China or India, right? Why don't they make them here so we know that it's just the CIA spying on us?

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  Nah, they couldn't be doing that. They're benevolent.

• 1:29:06Joe Rogan?

  My favorite one is these phones that can't be hacked.

• 1:29:09Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:29:10Joe Rogan?

  Cause I I asked a legitimate security expert to do a deep dive on this and he sent me an actual PDF. Like he laid out all, he like literally went through it. He's like, I can get in all these.

• 1:29:22Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:29:22Joe Rogan?

  Everybody can get that. If I, and he's like, if.

• 1:29:25Speaker 02

  Wasn't Elon gonna make one though?

• 1:29:27Joe Rogan?

  He's talked about it, but he's like, I hope I don't have to make a phone. That's what he says. I hope I don't have to do that. But if they get into his iPhone and fucking texts get leaked and that kind of shit happens, maybe he will.

• 1:29:39Speaker 02

  I was watching Kill Tony. Um, who's the comic who played Elon?

• 1:29:45Joe Rogan?

  Kyle Donegan.

• 1:29:46Speaker 02

  Kyle Donegan.

• 1:29:47Joe Rogan?

  He's the best.

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  He's hilarious.

• 1:29:48Joe Rogan?

  He's so funny, dude.

• 1:29:49Speaker 02

  He's so funny.

• 1:29:50Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever seen his Instagram?

• 1:29:51Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:29:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. He does these face swap videos with like Trump and Stormy Daniels and the Kardashians. Stormy!

• 1:30:02Joe Rogan?

  He's so funny, man. He's so fu- he's such a wild dude. Kyle is like the most underappreciated guy out there, I believe.

• 1:30:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:11Joe Rogan?

  I really do. In in terms of like all out funny. I mean, he, it's, his stuff is so ridiculous.

• 1:30:20Speaker 02

  Comedy, I feel like is kind of in a better place.

• 1:30:22Joe Rogan?

  Is in a better place.

• 1:30:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:24Joe Rogan?

  I think a big turning point was the Tom Brady roast.

• 1:30:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:27Joe Rogan?

  I think that was, cause it was the biggest thing ever on Netflix. More people watched the Tom Brady roast on Netflix, which is wild comedy. Tony Hinchcliffe, Andrew Schultz.

• 1:30:38Speaker 02

  Unbelievable.

• 1:30:38Joe Rogan?

  On fire, on fire. Yeah, I mean, he took that super seriously and, you know. I actually got ahold of Tom to get him on the roast.

• 1:30:49Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:30:49Joe Rogan?

  I was like, yeah, I'm like, you gotta get Tony Hinchcliffe. They're doing a roast on you, you got, he's the best roaster alive.

• 1:30:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:55Joe Rogan?

  No, no exaggeration.

• 1:30:56Speaker 02

  So you think after that, just more stuff was on the table or people were more?

• 1:31:01Joe Rogan?

  Netflix was all of a sudden like wide open. They were completely open to do wild stuff now. Because they're like, look, fuck all this woke shit. This is not profitable. Not only is it not profitable, like you're, we're actually killing the business. And you're killing the business of comedy, cause people watch these specials and like, what is this? Like you made a D E I comedy special. Or, you know, an inclusive comedy special, where you're letting people do comedy in the biggest form in the world just because they fit this particular group of people, this particular political group. It's, it's crazy. It's identity politics in the worst way possible, because it's counterproductive for your business. Your business is to provide entertainment.

• 1:31:45Joe Rogan?

  And then some of your more successful businesses are why the movies and shows, they're wild shows. Like crazy shit happens in these shows. But not with comedy. With comedy, we have to gatekeep, we have to keep it. And I think they realized after they did a few of those things, that nobody watches them. People hate them, and it actually is bad for their business. And then they do the Brady roast, boom! And they're like, okay. You know, and when I did my special, they had no limitations on me. They didn't say anything.

• 1:32:13Speaker 02

  And they have before?

• 1:32:14Joe Rogan?

  And it was live. But no, because it was live, they're like, we're not, we're not telling you what to say. It's live, just go ahead. We trust you. They went to see me live at the club, they're like, okay. I'm like, really? Okay.

• 1:32:28Joe Rogan?

  They're letting it go. Now, Tony has a special that's coming out on Netflix. Um, they're doing Kill Tony is on Netflix now.

• 1:32:35Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:32:35Joe Rogan?

  He's doing more roasts on Netflix, yeah. It's great.

• 1:32:38Speaker 02

  That's what you need.

• 1:32:39Joe Rogan?

  And then I think it's also the competition with YouTube. Because so many people, like Shane put his special out on YouTube, Ari put Jew on YouTube. So many people are putting these wild specials on YouTube and they're getting massive numbers.

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:51Joe Rogan?

  Massive numbers. And so I think they're just like, look, this is a, we're in the fucking business, like what are we doing? This is obviously like super popular and people love it, and it's also really good. This is really good comedy, like what are we doing? What are we doing?

• 1:33:06Speaker 02

  Going, going broke. Going woke.

• 1:33:08Joe Rogan?

  Let's go back to where we were. And now that Trump's in office, it's like, well, the, the whole country leans in that direction now. So people want you to get more wild.

• 1:33:17Speaker 02

  SNL is kinda funny again?

• 1:33:18Joe Rogan?

  They've had some funny sketches.

• 1:33:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they had Shane on twice.

• 1:33:22Speaker 02

  Twice, yeah, I know.

• 1:33:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so it's good. It's good for comedy. It's good. Comedy has to be looser. You, you have to be more wild. Doesn't mean you're cruel. It doesn't mean you're evil. It's just comedy. Just like movies where people get shot, that's not evil either. Okay, it's like comedy is funnier when it says fucked up things. It just is. Always has been. Yeah, back from Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce and Sam Kinison and Bill Hicks and everybody else and Eddie Murphy. It's always been the wildest shit is what's funny.

• 1:33:52Speaker 02

  King's a comedy.

• 1:33:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, exactly. King's comedy, Blue Collar Tour, you know, Dave Chappelle. It's like, it's all with the wild shit is the funniest shit.

• 1:33:59Speaker 02

  That's what people wanna see.

• 1:34:00Joe Rogan?

  That's what people wanna see. They know what it is. It's a fucking art form. It's called shit talking.

• 1:34:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:05Joe Rogan?

  That's what it is.

• 1:34:06Speaker 02

  Put your offense to the side.

• 1:34:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just go have a good time. They don't mean it. Like, have you seen Brian Holtzman yet?

• 1:34:11Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:34:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God, you gotta see Brian Holtzman. He's a, a Los Angeles legend that we got to come out to Austin. And he was like the guy that would go on late at night and, and he's so wild that Mitzi Shore wouldn't put him on stage for two weeks after nine eleven.

• 1:34:24Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:34:24Joe Rogan?

  She's like, no, don't let him go up. And we were dying. Holt's like, Miss Mitzi, I don't understand. I'm not gonna say anything crazy. She's like, no way, no way. Two weeks. Two weeks later, he's just saying the most fucking ridiculous shit. He went on stage after Susan Smith drowned her kids, like the day after. He's like, I heard there were bad kids. I heard they sat that close to the TV. They didn't pollute away their blocks. They were always spilling their fucking milk. Those kids would not be missed. Like, it's, it's a crazy character. You meet him in real life, he's the nicest guy on earth, but he's so funny. He's so ridiculous. I don't wanna tell you what he's talking about now. I don't wanna give it away, but comics just line up to watch this guy.

• 1:35:07Joe Rogan?

  Like, when he's on stage, we all get onto the balcony, like a Holtzman.

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  Has he been in the mothership?

• 1:35:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, he's in the, he headlines there all the time. He's there all the time. He wasn't having an audience in LA because they were putting him late, late at night. And here, we're like, throw him up at ten o'clock. You put, let him headline.

• 1:35:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:22Joe Rogan?

  Give him forty minutes, man. Let him go off.

• 1:35:25Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 1:35:25Joe Rogan?

  It's fun. It's a good time for comedy, a really good time for comedy.

• 1:35:29Speaker 02

  But movies, though, we need. Movies, movies haven't caught up though.

• 1:35:32Joe Rogan?

  No, but have you seen-

• 1:35:33Speaker 02

  I'm not saying we gotta go make Tropic Thunder multiple times.

• 1:35:36Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen Segura's new Netflix series?

• 1:35:38Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:35:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 1:35:41Speaker 02

  Is it-

• 1:35:42Joe Rogan?

  It's so crazy.

• 1:35:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:43Joe Rogan?

  It's so crazy.

• 1:35:44Speaker 02

  What is it?

• 1:35:45Joe Rogan?

  It's called Bad Thoughts.

• 1:35:46Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:35:46Joe Rogan?

  It's these short sketches, these short films essentially, they're all like short, like five, 10 minute films.

• 1:35:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:52Joe Rogan?

  And there's just a bunch of them, and they're fucking ridiculous, like so outrageous and so crazy that you're watching like, no, no, oh my god, what the fuck dude? It's really wild.

• 1:36:05Speaker 02

  Is it just him or is Bert with him?

• 1:36:06Joe Rogan?

  A bunch of people, no Bert is not in it, and Bert actually made a video congratulating Tom and saying, "I don't know why I wasn't on it, did you think about me having, having me on it? Kinda weird that my best friend didn't have me on his show."

• 1:36:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:18Joe Rogan?

  He's like, "I'm kinda," and then he said, "Tom, I'm kinda joking, but also kinda serious." Like, was there any talks about having me on it?

• 1:36:23Speaker 02

  He's a little hurt. Your first alternate, Bert, you just, just missed the cut.

• 1:36:28Joe Rogan?

  I wasn't on it either.

• 1:36:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:29Joe Rogan?

  You know, who cares? Just, it's great, it's really great. And it's again, it's like Netflix taking wild chances, just completely wild chances.

• 1:36:38Speaker 02

  They got so much goddamn money, like-

• 1:36:39Joe Rogan?

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• 1:38:49Speaker 02

  You think UFC is going to go to Netflix?

• 1:38:51Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if they could do that. I'm not, I'm a dummy. I'm not a business guy. I don't understand. So the problem is, would they be pay-per-view still? Because the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight was on Netflix and it was just, you could just watch it, just like you watch everything else. You have to pay more for it. So if they had the UFC on Netflix, but they made people pay more for it, I don't know how that would work out.

• 1:39:14Speaker 02

  What if you just did like five bucks?

• 1:39:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know. Well, that's a good question, right? Like if the UFC was $5 instead of $70, would you actually make more money? Because you get millions of downloads or millions of views?

• 1:39:30Speaker 02

  Think about the user base on Netflix.

• 1:39:31Joe Rogan?

  Right. It's, it's pretty immense.

• 1:39:34Speaker 02

  It's gotta be what? 500 million? A billion?

• 1:39:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we'll find out. Um, it's gotta be way bigger than ESPN plus.

• 1:39:43Speaker 02

  They ESPN plus fucked themselves with it a couple, a couple ago. I couldn't even get it on my, on my.

• 1:39:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they had a crash during the Ankali of Pereira fight, right?

• 1:39:52Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:39:53Joe Rogan?

  That's not good.

• 1:39:54Speaker 02

  And we're all, I was like looking online like, what the fuck? I'm not the only one, like thousands of people were like.

• 1:39:59Joe Rogan?

  What was the root cause of that? Did they discern?

• 1:40:02Speaker 02

  I don't know. I just, it literally wouldn't let me get on.

• 1:40:04Joe Rogan?

  That's another fight. Pereira took that fight with a broken hand and, uh, norovirus.

• 1:40:09Speaker 02

  I knew he was, I knew he was messed up.

• 1:40:10Joe Rogan?

  He's an animal. Netflix has 94 million monthly active users. The company has over 300 million paid global subscribers. So it's 300 million worldwide. Uh, top tier, ad-supported tier. Oh, so they have an ad. Now you can have ads. So it's cheaper. You can get it cheaper with ads. Okay, they're distinct from paid subscribers. Multiple individuals can share an account.

• 1:40:36Speaker 02

  Do you have any idea what the, uh, what the average, uh, pay-per-view on, uh, UFC is?

• 1:40:42Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't. I don't know what the numbers are, cause I don't think they have to disclose it.

• 1:40:49Joe Rogan?

  Do they even, they used to disclose them back in the day.

• 1:40:52Speaker 02

  Boxing would all the time as like kind of a badge of honor, you know, there's two point, like Floyd would do, you know.

• 1:40:58Joe Rogan?

  Four million for the Conor McGregor fight. It was something crazy. Like that was one of the records. And then the Manny Pacquiao fight, I think was the biggest one ever.

• 1:41:05Speaker 02

  Who's coming back to fight?

• 1:41:06Joe Rogan?

  That's kinda crazy.

• 1:41:07Speaker 02

  He's 46 years old.

• 1:41:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but he's also saucy.

• 1:41:13Speaker 02

  Great singer.

• 1:41:13Joe Rogan?

  He's not gonna come back 46 on the Natch, I guarantee ya.

• 1:41:17Speaker 02

  You think so?

• 1:41:18Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean, if I was a person that was like prone to ridiculous speculation, which I am. Um, I mean, he, he carried his knockout power through eight weight classes. And his physique notably improved.

• 1:41:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:33Joe Rogan?

  I mean, and boxing has always had a steroid issue. Steroids, because like weigh-in tests, tests on the day of the weigh-ins is just an intelligence test. It's just how good is your doctor?

• 1:41:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:45Joe Rogan?

  How good are the scientists? Same as UFC. MMA was-

• 1:41:49Speaker 02

  Why don't they stop doing that?

• 1:41:51Joe Rogan?

  Well-

• 1:41:51Speaker 02

  Or change the weight classes?

• 1:41:52Joe Rogan?

  USADA. When UFC, when UFC brought in USADA, all that changed and people's physiques melted. They changed radically. Alistair Overeem is the greatest example.

• 1:42:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:01Joe Rogan?

  Alistair, when he fought Brock Lesnar, got drug tested and he was saucy as fuck. When he's flexing on stage, that's when he was uberim. 260, solid as fuck, ripped. And just one of the more elite strikers on planet earth and Brock was fucked.

• 1:42:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:20Joe Rogan?

  And then they, they make him take the drug tests and he becomes a normal person with good fighting skills.

• 1:42:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:26Joe Rogan?

  You know, I mean, he wasn't the uberim anymore, this destroyer. On the sauce, man, that guy was, I would have loved to see what an Alistair Overeem run on the sauce would have been.

• 1:42:37Speaker 02

  Demolishing people.

• 1:42:39Joe Rogan?

  My god. It would have been epic. It would have been epic. It would have been really wild to see.

• 1:42:44Speaker 02

  So you want to see it back in the game?

• 1:42:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, I want fun.

• 1:42:51Joe Rogan?

  I don't want to see fat heavyweights. The fuck out of here. I want Alistair back.

• 1:42:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:55Joe Rogan?

  Get him back on the sauce. Alistair's like a vegan now.

• 1:42:59Speaker 02

  You think John Jones fights this year?

• 1:43:01Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I hope so, but I don't know if he does. He doesn't have to, right? He's a legend, he's also 37. At what point in time does he, is he 36 or 37? At one point in time, does a fighter say enough is enough? Especially a natural fighter. And if you are natural and you have to be today, they just test you way too much. There's probably some shenanigans that go on, you know? Like when A-Rod had those gummies that had testosterone in them and it was a short- Short lifespan, yeah. There's probably some shenanigans that are still going on.

• 1:43:34Speaker 02

  I mean, if if Balco could get away with it twenty, twenty plus years now, you would, you would think there's gotta be people out there who are ahead of the game.

• 1:43:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, when I talked to Nowitzki, he was pretty open about that.

• 1:43:46Speaker 02

  Oh, you had him on here.

• 1:43:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was like, yeah, there's gonna be methods that we don't catch.

• 1:43:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:52Joe Rogan?

  Cause there's always gonna be some kind of a lab, like, like Icarus, like the documentary.

• 1:43:57Speaker 02

  Amazing documentary.

• 1:43:58Joe Rogan?

  Woo!

• 1:43:59Speaker 02

  With the K G P.

• 1:44:00Joe Rogan?

  Woo! That was incredible. One of the greatest documentaries ever because.

• 1:44:04Speaker 02

  And he wasn't even doing that to.

• 1:44:06Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:44:06Speaker 02

  Generally, he was just trying to.

• 1:44:07Joe Rogan?

  He stumbled upon it.

• 1:44:08Speaker 02

  Stumbled upon it.

• 1:44:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And then he did that other one afterwards, The Dissident.

• 1:44:13Speaker 02

  I didn't see that one.

• 1:44:14Joe Rogan?

  Documentary. It's all about the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi.

• 1:44:18Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:44:18Joe Rogan?

  And that one, interestingly enough, nobody wanted to stream that one.

• 1:44:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:23Joe Rogan?

  Like, you gotta buy that one.

• 1:44:24Speaker 02

  Not surprising.

• 1:44:25Joe Rogan?

  They put it on platforms, but you gotta purchase it. And I think that might still be the case. Cause that one, you know, because like Icarus was available everywhere.

• 1:44:32Speaker 02

  I'm gonna use this legal.

• 1:44:33Joe Rogan?

  The Dissident.

• 1:44:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's very good, dude. It's very good. It's dark.

• 1:44:38Speaker 02

  Twenty twenty?

• 1:44:40Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:44:40Speaker 02

  Where does it say you can get it at? Just YouTube or?

• 1:44:44Joe Rogan?

  Tubi.

• 1:44:45Speaker 02

  What the fuck is Tubi?

• 1:44:46Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. That's what I'm saying, man. It's one of those things where it's like, they buried that motherfucker.

• 1:44:52Speaker 02

  Those are the ones I wanna see.

• 1:44:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was a good one.

• 1:44:55Speaker 02

  Can't get platformed.

• 1:44:56Joe Rogan?

  Um, but Icarus, totally by accident, this guy stumbles upon. So what, what Brian was doing, Brian, who's a, um, an endurance athlete himself, was going to compete in a bicycle race, um, naturally. And then the next year, he's gonna get doped up and document the entire thing. So he gets a hold of this guy who is supposedly the head of the organization that stops drug use in Russia. But, uh, Gregory.

• 1:45:28Joe Rogan?

  Rychenko. Um, starts explaining exactly how to do this. How to do this, this is what you're gonna take. And then along the way, they get busted for tampering with the urine samples that were used during the Sochi Olympics. So it fi- they find out that during the Sochi Olympics, everyone was doping. There was, Russia got like a ton of medals and they kicked ass and everything. And interestingly enough, he said the one sport that they found that didn't benefit from steroid use was, um, ice skating. The figure skaters. That, you know, like you had to have like fine motor skill movement. It was really just about being light and, and, and being able to perform those things over and over again.

• 1:46:13Joe Rogan?

  And they didn't find evidence that giving those people steroids helped, which I thought was interesting, because I would have thought it would help everything. There's a lot of explosive power involved when they jump and spin in the air. Um, but, so the entire team was doping and then they had a hole in the wall where they would take the real urine sample. Pass it through the hole in the wall and they would give them back a doctored urine sample.

• 1:46:38Speaker 02

  But it was the KGB who was, who was running that stuff.

• 1:46:40Joe Rogan?

  The KGB was running it allegedly. And, um, the lids, through microscopic analysis, they had found that they developed some sort of a tool that could open the supposedly unopenable.

• 1:46:52Speaker 02

  Without tampering with the.

• 1:46:53Joe Rogan?

  But they found all these scratches all over that indicated that some sort of a device had gotten in there and popped open the little things that kept the, the lid from coming off.

• 1:47:03Joe Rogan?

  Woo, well, it's like, you know, when you have, the Olympics, I think, first of all, my position in the Olympics is that it's a giant scam against the athletes. The athletes are generating insane wealth and they get none of it.

• 1:47:17Speaker 02

  None of it.

• 1:47:18Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 1:47:19Speaker 02

  The top one tenth of one percent can make any type of money.

• 1:47:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then they go out and then maybe the top tenth of one percent, they get endorsement deals and that's where they benefit from winning a gold medal in the Olympics. Meanwhile, the people that run it, the networks, everybody else. Billions. Billions of dollars, but the thing that people wanna see, the athletes get none of it. That is a crazy deal.

• 1:47:43Speaker 02

  Especially if you're in a sport that nobody, you know, you're a decathlete.

• 1:47:48Joe Rogan?

  Right, exactly.

• 1:47:49Speaker 02

  Making no money. You're a shot putter.

• 1:47:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:51Speaker 02

  Like, congrats on the gold medal, now get your ass back to work.

• 1:47:54Joe Rogan?

  Nobody gives a fuck who won synchronized swimming.

• 1:47:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:56Joe Rogan?

  You're not getting any money. But meanwhile, billions of people are watching on television, there's an immense amount of ad revenue, and you're not getting a penny.

• 1:48:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:04Joe Rogan?

  And it's the only thing that they ever put on TV like that, where you don't get a penny. You know, NBA gets a cut, NFL gets a cut, everybody gets paid. Everybody gets paid in boxing. Everybody gets paid in every fucking sport there is, except the Olympics.

• 1:48:18Speaker 02

  Won every four years.

• 1:48:19Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:48:19Speaker 02

  And by the way, you better fucking perform in the trials.

• 1:48:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:48:22Speaker 02

  You can run the world record that year in competition and then go to trials.

• 1:48:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:27Speaker 02

  Like a thing Mudd did, our 800 runner, and get tripped, oh, fuck it, you missed the Olympics.

• 1:48:32Joe Rogan?

  And some of these gymnasts, who are the best in the world, famous, are poor.

• 1:48:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:38Joe Rogan?

  Best in the world at what they do, spectacular performances, the whole world cheers, we're watching them with bated breath on television, pull it off, pull it off, they stick the landing, yes! They get nothing.

• 1:48:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:52Joe Rogan?

  Nothing. It's a dirty, total, dirty, dirty scam, that's been going on for so long, people have just accepted it, because it started back when there was no money in it.

• 1:49:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:49:02Joe Rogan?

  Because there was no television. Like, when you see Richard, when, when you see Adolf Hitler, just fucking jonesing at the 36 Olympics.

• 1:49:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, stripping out.

• 1:49:11Joe Rogan?

  Just fucking, just tripping.

• 1:49:13Speaker 02

  Don't let him beat you, don't let him beat you.

• 1:49:15Joe Rogan?

  He's just, whatever the fuck he was on, that guy was feeling it. I love that video.

• 1:49:21Speaker 02

  Jesse Owen just fucking tortures them.

• 1:49:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then puts up the fist.

• 1:49:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:49:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, amazing moment in history, but it's just, that was no money, right? Cause there was no money. And then, once television rolled in, they didn't say, hey, let's cut these athletes in on this, we're making billions of dollars now. Nope, nope.

• 1:49:38Speaker 02

  They can't even pay for their fucking training.

• 1:49:40Joe Rogan?

  Exactly, it's fucking disgusting. Not only that, you're never gonna beat the Cubans and the Russians back then, because they were funding everything. I mean, these people didn't have to worry about how they were gonna feed themselves healthy food, while they're preparing to box in the Olympics like our guys did. You know, it's like we.

• 1:49:58Speaker 02

  And the Chinese, what they're doing with their athletes too. They send them away super early and then you're in a program for ten years.

• 1:50:04Joe Rogan?

  Well.

• 1:50:05Speaker 02

  To prepare.

• 1:50:06Joe Rogan?

  Especially Russian wrestlers.

• 1:50:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:08Joe Rogan?

  Like, what did they do to you?

• 1:50:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:12Joe Rogan?

  Correlin.

• 1:50:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:14Joe Rogan?

  Correlin, who the photo that I have out in the gyms, my, maybe my favorite sports photo of all time. Correlin picking up that three hundred pound man like he was nothing.

• 1:50:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:24Joe Rogan?

  Like, I pick up a forty-five pound kettlebell, he's just fucking with his grit, and he's fed that picture, check it, fucking, rah! Meanwhile, his parents.

• 1:50:33Speaker 02

  Fucking yoked.

• 1:50:34Joe Rogan?

  His parents were like five-five.

• 1:50:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was three hundred pounds and moved like a cat.

• 1:50:40Speaker 02

  Natural.

• 1:50:41Joe Rogan?

  I mean, he didn't even seem like a fucking human. When you saw him compete in his prime, guys would just flatten out on the ground, try to protect, just protect themselves from being pummeled into the earth over and over again. He wrestled different than everybody. Everybody was just trying to take you down. He was trying to pick you up and slam you repeatedly into the earth, like you getting hit in the head by the world.

• 1:51:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:51:07Joe Rogan?

  And he just did it over and over again till these guys just broke. I mean, the freak of all freaks. Look at the fucking musculature on this man. Totally natural, by the way.

• 1:51:18Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:51:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just ate a lot of borscht.

• 1:51:21Speaker 02

  Borscht.

• 1:51:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just eating Russian sausages and what?

• 1:51:27Speaker 02

  Beats.

• 1:51:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, how about those European women athletes, the Eastern Bloc athletes, the women that, they set records that still to this day haven't been broken.

• 1:51:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, and won't.

• 1:51:37Joe Rogan?

  I think that's the whole scheme about getting transgender guys to compete weightlifting.

• 1:51:40Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:51:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Take back some of those European medals.

• 1:51:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, get the Bulgarians, yeah.

• 1:51:46Joe Rogan?

  Who are they letting in the Olympics? They're letting some trans athletes compete in the Olympics, which is like, okay. Is that what we're doing?

• 1:51:53Speaker 02

  Weren't the boxers, in the, a couple of boxers fought each other for a goal that were trans?

• 1:51:58Joe Rogan?

  They thought, no, one guy fought a woman. Um, but it's like a guy with a micropenis allegedly and like internal testicles. But went through puberty as a man, looks like a man, the whole deal. And then um, did a chromosome test for allegedly for previous uh, boxing or organization body. And they it came back XY. And like, you're a man. And then, you know, that was very controversial. They didn't do that with the Olympics, which they clearly should. Like, they should do that with all sports. You know, that's what the enhanced games guys are gonna do. You know, the enhanced games?

• 1:52:35Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:52:35Joe Rogan?

  Is the id- okay. The enhanced games is a very well-funded idea. And they're, they're, this is-

• 1:52:41Speaker 02

  They call it the enhanced?

• 1:52:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're all gonna be on the juice. They're gonna be on the best steroids money can buy. The best current techno, all the athletes.

• 1:52:50Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:52:51Joe Rogan?

  And they're gonna pay them. When they win, it's like millions of dollars. There's millions of, so they're, they're putting this together as a huge event. And they're trying to entice the best athletes in the world to do this safely. This is the enhanced games.

• 1:53:04Speaker 03

  An update coming, I guess, next week.

• 1:53:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh. So we had the guys on who were uh, the guy, the guys who put together this. And I said, what are you, how are you gonna deal with trans athletes? And they were like, I think we're gonna do chromosomes. Which is the right way to do it.

• 1:53:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:20Joe Rogan?

  Let's stop fucking around. You know, just stop pretending that these males that identify as women who win. What is like seven hundred women were robbed of gold medals in ver- across various sports. Might have been more than that. Because these biological men pretended to be women and identified as women and dominated in women's sports. They have a giant advantage. Stop pretending they don't. Just stop. And if you want people to compete, if you still wanna compete and you're a woman. You know, um, you should have, I mean, you should be protected and only have to compete against other actual biological women. Period. End of discussion. It's not bigoted to say that.

• 1:54:03Speaker 02

  The trans women movement is actually anti-woman.

• 1:54:07Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent. Especially when, when it comes to sports, one hundred percent.

• 1:54:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I mean, sports. You're not seeing trans men. Dominating anything.

• 1:54:16Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:54:17Speaker 02

  It's because there's a biological difference.

• 1:54:18Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's also a problem because if you're a trans man, now you have to take testosterone, which is banned. You can't take it. So are you gonna let them take it and you won't let older athletes take it? That sounds crazy. That doesn't make any sense. So if you get like a thirty-nine-year-old athlete has low testosterone, you won't let him take it, but you let a woman take it to become a man like, shut the fuck up. Chromosomes. That's it. Double X and XY.

• 1:54:45Speaker 02

  That's way too much common sense there, Joe.

• 1:54:48Joe Rogan?

  It's just, it's, the idea that that's bigoted is so crazy when there's a demonstrable effect. Like, you can clearly see that these people that are identifying as women but are actually biological males have massive advantages.

• 1:55:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, but the people who you're asking those questions whether or not, who are not able to answer whether or not there's a decided advantage can't even define what a woman is.

• 1:55:08Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. But this is, this is this kind of like head in the ground mindset is the same thing that you're seeing with COVID vaccines, the same thing you're seeing with pharmaceutical drugs, same thing you're seeing with USAID and government.

• 1:55:21Speaker 02

  Cancer.

• 1:55:21Joe Rogan?

  People just don't want to know. Most, and also, they feel helpless, right? So they, they wanna be like reinforced and feel better. There's, most people that are listening to us right now are living paycheck to paycheck. Most people. If you're living paycheck to paycheck, how much you gonna stick your neck out for this? How much you gonna stick your neck out for anything? How much you gonna open your mind or open your mouth up about all-cause mortalities? How much you, like, all the different things that people are concerned with in the wars?

• 1:55:54Speaker 02

  Low birth rates, the explosion of cancer.

• 1:55:56Joe Rogan?

  Everything that's in the news, everything constantly. How much you gonna stick your neck out? Most people aren't. They can't. They don't have time. They have family, they have mortgages. They're, they're barely getting by. They're not gonna fucking risk everything.

• 1:56:08Speaker 02

  And they're being told not to care.

• 1:56:09Joe Rogan?

  Right. Yeah. And then they're being shamed if they do care.

• 1:56:12Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:56:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you don't wanna be the anti-vaxxer at work.

• 1:56:15Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:56:15Joe Rogan?

  If you say, well, I'm just telling you, I watched, I read some scientific papers being broken down by legitimate PhDs online. They were explaining what the mechanism is that this stuff could cause cancer.

• 1:56:26Speaker 02

  Don't do your own research.

• 1:56:27Joe Rogan?

  Don't do your own research.

• 1:56:28Speaker 02

  Do not.

• 1:56:29Joe Rogan?

  That was my favorite.

• 1:56:31Joe Rogan?

  That was my favorite.

• 1:56:32Speaker 02

  Trust the experts.

• 1:56:33Joe Rogan?

  That's like right out of Orwell. And when it's Brian Stelter saying, all these people, they wanna do their own. Research. What do you do? Do your own research. Why would you ever assume that everyone who listens is dumber than you?

• 1:56:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:48Joe Rogan?

  Why would you ever assume? And if you're an intelligent person and someone says there's medical research papers that you can clearly read that show you results, why can't I understand that? I can go through college and learn calculus. I can figure out how to program a computer. I can figure out all these things. There's all these things that I can do, but I can't research this effect that this this chemical that I'm introducing to the human body does. Don't do your own research. Trust these experts. You don't trust experts in anything.

• 1:57:23Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:57:23Joe Rogan?

  Because over time, they're they're wrong about certain things and new expertise emerges. And we cha- look, they used to use leaded gasoline. Should we trust the experts and keep putting lead in gasoline? Where they made IQs demonstrably lower. You can like statistically lower in places and where people grew up, and I'm one of them. Where grew up in a place where they at the time where they had leaded gasoline. I probably could have been way smarter when I was a kid. I was just sniffing fucking leaded gas. I have a buddy who has a, um, what he used to live in New York. And he was trying to do a garden in his background, his backyard, but he's a smart dude.

• 1:58:03Joe Rogan?

  So he took soil samples, brought it to university and said, you know, tell me like what's wrong with the soil. It's like it's filled with lead, all from those days, from back when everybody had leaded gasoline. It was just in the air, just everybody's

• 1:58:21Joe Rogan?

  just lead fumes. Because they didn't want the engines to ping. Because if you

• 1:58:29Joe Rogan?

  if you have unleaded gas, when we used to have muscle cars back when I was in high school. If you put unleaded gas in a muscle car, they would run like shit. Because this was back when you could still buy leaded gas. Like, when did they make unleaded gas, Jamie?

• 1:58:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like when was it introduced? And when did they, when did they ban leaded gas? Let's ask the better question.

• 1:58:54Joe Rogan?

  Because everybody was just breathing in this.

• 1:58:57Speaker 02

  But the whole point is that things change.

• 1:58:59Joe Rogan?

  We learn, we learn. And if we're ignoring side effects because we want to keep our head in the sand, that's crazy. That stops the learning, which we need, which is why we don't do lobotomies anymore.

• 1:59:12Speaker 02

  If you're a curious person.

• 1:59:14Joe Rogan?

  So lead was added to gasoline in the twenties to improve performance, but was later discovered that it was a pollutant and a neurotoxin. Okay, the US Environmental Protection Agency began phasing out lead in the nineteen seventies. In nineteen ninety-six, the Clean Air Act banned the sale of lead gas.

• 1:59:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:31Joe Rogan?

  They wanted to keep making that money, Aaron Rodgers.

• 1:59:37Joe Rogan?

  So when I was a kid in high school.

• 1:59:39Speaker 02

  Learned in the seventies and it took them.

• 1:59:41Joe Rogan?

  Twenty-six years.

• 1:59:42Speaker 02

  Twenty-six years.

• 1:59:43Joe Rogan?

  LOL.

• 1:59:47Joe Rogan?

  So when I was in high school, like if you had, because we had carburetors back then, there was no, none of those cars had electronic fuel injection.

• 1:59:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:55Joe Rogan?

  And you, you bought leaded gas. And, and I drove mostly muscle cars through my younger years. So I probably knocked my IQ down quite a few notches.

• 2:00:05Speaker 02

  At least three or four points.

• 2:00:06Joe Rogan?

  I mean, people used to kill themselves in garages. They would lock themselves in their garage and just let the engine run until they died. That was the way people committed suicide.

• 2:00:17Speaker 02

  Still do?

• 2:00:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the way people do. Um, I know people who did that. Like, I don't know them personally, but they're friends of people that I knew. Um, that they'd take a hose and attach it to the exhaust pipe and then put it inside the cabin. And it's a.

• 2:00:34Speaker 02

  It's awful.

• 2:00:35Joe Rogan?

  It's a way that people commit suicide.

• 2:00:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, what is that, carbon monoxide poisoning?

• 2:00:39Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh, yeah. Yeah, and we just put that out in the air. Yeah, but at least it doesn't have lead in it anymore.

• 2:00:47Speaker 02

  That's good.

• 2:00:51Joe Rogan?

  Fucking crazy. So the point is, like, experts, they don't always catch all the problems with especially novel inventions.

• 2:00:58Speaker 02

  And maybe there's some conflicts of interest.

• 2:01:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:02Speaker 02

  With theirs being paid to say something, they're paid to do something.

• 2:01:06Joe Rogan?

  Imagine they find out it's a neurotoxin in nineteen seventy and they keep using it for twenty-six years.

• 2:01:11Speaker 02

  It's fucking crazy.

• 2:01:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, how else are you gonna run all those cars that need leaded gas? Aaron Rodgers, come on. Smarty pants.

• 2:01:23Speaker 02

  Water.

• 2:01:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, that was the other thing, right? The guy who created a water car who yelled, "They've been, they poisoned me." And then he dies?

• 2:01:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:01:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:31Speaker 02

  How about that?

• 2:01:32Joe Rogan?

  How about that?

• 2:01:32Speaker 02

  Research, gone.

• 2:01:34Joe Rogan?

  Imagine you're some Texas oil guy and you find out about some dipshit in Long Island that figured out a water car. Like, can't we see someone up there to talk to this fella? Yeah, like, you're realizing your empire's about to collapse in front of your face.

• 2:01:48Speaker 02

  And the fact that actually happened.

• 2:01:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. What happened to the water car? Apparently, you drive across the whole country on a tank or something.

• 2:01:59Speaker 02

  Where's the trash car? Like, from Back to the Future?

• 2:02:02Joe Rogan?

  Right, that's what we need.

• 2:02:03Speaker 02

  Why can't we put trash in the old?

• 2:02:05Joe Rogan?

  Right, the old compactor, nuclear fucking engine.

• 2:02:09Speaker 02

  Use that as energy, huh?

• 2:02:10Joe Rogan?

  What is, what are, that water car guy, this, what, did, what was the official cause of death?

• 2:02:17Speaker 03

  Uh, aneurysm.

• 2:02:21Speaker 03

  Stanley Myers is his name.

• 2:02:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they got him with the old aneurysm gun.

• 2:02:24Speaker 02

  There's been a few of those guys, though, who've found some, some other ways of, of doing it.

• 2:02:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, what a coincidence. What a coincidence that a guy who develops an engine that runs on three quarters of the Earth's surface, that everybody has coming out of their tap, that everybody has, it's everywhere. You could buy it at the store, you could, it's in your swimming pool, you swim in it. And that could be fuel. And it would just, what would it release? Mist? Nothing?

• 2:02:57Speaker 02

  That makes too much sense, yeah.

• 2:02:59Joe Rogan?

  Probably be good for the environment, probably help the trees.

• 2:03:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, but climate change.

• 2:03:03Joe Rogan?

  We're spreading all that mist out there, probably help the trees grow, be nice, be greener. You know?

• 2:03:08Speaker 02

  We'll plant some more trees.

• 2:03:08Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if that did it and all of a sudden, Los Angeles started raining all the time. This is great.

• 2:03:13Speaker 02

  That'd be incredible.

• 2:03:14Joe Rogan?

  Because you just got all that moisture in the air and it all comes down as rain.

• 2:03:17Speaker 02

  Have you been on Newsom's podcast yet?

• 2:03:19Joe Rogan?

  I heard it's really good.

• 2:03:22Joe Rogan?

  He would probably have me on. I'm not interested.

• 2:03:28Joe Rogan?

  You know.

• 2:03:28Speaker 02

  I'd like to be asked.

• 2:03:29Joe Rogan?

  It's not like I'm opposed to talking to democratic politicians. I'll talk to anybody. But that guy, yeah, nah, I'm not interested.

• 2:03:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I talked to Federman. I like that guy.

• 2:03:40Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 2:03:41Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. You see, you know, he's really struggling post-stroke.

• 2:03:46Speaker 02

  Seems like he's doing a little better.

• 2:03:47Joe Rogan?

  Uh, sometimes yes, sometimes no, but he he has a translator that he carries with him everywhere. Yeah, when he's doing the podcast, he has an iPad in front of him. So that like when like sometimes he has lapses of memory, like short term. So like if you you and I were just talking about something, he would forget what we're talking about. So he has to look at the screen. So sometimes he he hears a question, but it doesn't process. But he's lucid and he's a very nice guy.

• 2:04:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:11Joe Rogan?

  But they're attacking him like crazy now.

• 2:04:13Speaker 02

  It's because he has a little bit of common sense. And he goes, but I'm gonna weigh each based on their individual merit, not oh, this is a democratic issue. This is a republican issue.

• 2:04:22Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. They do not want anybody stepping outside the lines.

• 2:04:26Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 2:04:27Joe Rogan?

  It's weird, man. It's weird that people accept it.

• 2:04:30Speaker 02

  If you know how the politics work, like, I know we're only a hundred and whatever days into this, but but after we get through this first year,

• 2:04:39Speaker 02

  the Congress ain't meeting the same way. They're starting to people who are up for reelection in 2026, they're gonna start campaigning here. After about three months into into the into the new year.

• 2:04:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, probably.

• 2:04:50Speaker 02

  That's how it works.

• 2:04:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:52Speaker 02

  So what's gonna happen? Who's gonna be held accountable?

• 2:04:55Joe Rogan?

  It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting to see how much money gets spent on these campaigns.

• 2:05:01Speaker 02

  What about the new plane that Trump's getting?

• 2:05:04Joe Rogan?

  He's still getting? Is that real?

• 2:05:05Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:05:07Joe Rogan?

  So is Qatar was gonna give him a four hundred cutter? Is that how you say it?

• 2:05:12Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 2:05:12Joe Rogan?

  Cutter? Cutter? I've heard it said a bunch of different ways. Qatar, cutter.

• 2:05:17Speaker 02

  I I've been corrected many times.

• 2:05:19Joe Rogan?

  Is it Qatar?

• 2:05:19Speaker 02

  I thought it was Qatar.

• 2:05:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:05:21Speaker 02

  Or Qatar.

• 2:05:22Joe Rogan?

  Let's find out what the real.

• 2:05:22Speaker 02

  That's Cutter. Okay.

• 2:05:24Joe Rogan?

  Like, like, like, like a person who like cuts themselves?

• 2:05:28Speaker 02

  Yep, horizontally.

• 2:05:29Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Um, well, I'm wrong then. I thought it was Qatar. But either way, they um, were gonna give him a four hundred million dollar jet, which is like, I wanna know, first of all, what's a four hundred million dollar jet?

• 2:05:42Speaker 02

  So do I. And they also are buying on.

• 2:05:45Speaker 00

  Qatar.

• 2:05:46Joe Rogan?

  Qatar.

• 2:05:47Speaker 00

  Qatar.

• 2:05:48Speaker 02

  Okay. Then all those people that fucking corrected me.

• 2:05:51Joe Rogan?

  Can we hear, yeah, what the fuck? Can we hear a person from Qatar say it?

• 2:05:58Joe Rogan?

  See, Google "person from Qatar pronouncing how to say it." I bet you there's a video on YouTube, because it's a controversial one. I bet you there's a video.

• 2:06:07Speaker 02

  Big controversy.

• 2:06:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:06:09Joe Rogan?

  It's really, well, it is now. Theo was just there.

• 2:06:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was talking with the troops, huh?

• 2:06:15Speaker 03

  Or CNN, or this one?

• 2:06:18Joe Rogan?

  Um, that one. Try that one right there, correctly.

• 2:06:21Speaker 05

  We are looking at how to pronounce this name as well as how to say more interesting, but often confusing country names and names from geography. So make sure to stay tuned to the channel. So how do you say it? Well, officially, in Arabic, it is to be said Qatar. Qatar. Easy, right? In English, it is generally accepted that it is said as Qatar. Qatar. But Qatar is how you.

• 2:06:50Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so it is Qatar.

• 2:06:51Speaker 02

  Qatar.

• 2:06:52Joe Rogan?

  It's like Fedor Emelianenko. His real name is Fyodor. But we go, yeah.

• 2:06:57Speaker 02

  Fedor.

• 2:06:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, tighten that up.

• 2:06:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:07:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:02Joe Rogan?

  Qatar, we like Qatar, sir.

• 2:07:04Speaker 02

  There's a lot of wild, wild names on the UFC you guys gotta.

• 2:07:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 2:07:08Speaker 02

  Do you ever forget when you're out there doing interviews, like?

• 2:07:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's, there's struggles. Yeah. Some of them are rough, you know? I fucked up, uh, Umar Nurmagomedov's name once, but that was just good. I knew his name. I knew how to say it. It's just my mouth didn't work right.

• 2:07:20Speaker 02

  Ladies and gentlemen, Umar!

• 2:07:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I just fucked it up. But, um, but that's just, that's, eh, eh, there's a lot of these, like, Russian and Dagestan names that are really, like, Zabit Magomed Sharapirov. Yeah. That, that one is crazy. You know? There's, there's a bunch of crazy ones.

• 2:07:41Speaker 02

  You in the hotel room, just practicing?

• 2:07:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you have to. I get them, they, what happens is before the weigh-ins, like, sometimes, um, I've never seen a guy fight before, like, they're, they're new to the UFC. So then I have to find him online and watch some of their fights online. And then even then, like, there's discrepancies in how to say the name, and so that we have to get it from them, and then they have little recordings where the fighter will say their name, and they're like, Jesus Christ, say, play that back again. Like, what, what is the vowels he's using? Like, what is this? You know? Some of them, Shavkat Rachmanoff, like.

• 2:08:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:08:15Joe Rogan?

  Wow, Shavkat Rachmanoff.

• 2:08:16Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 2:08:17Joe Rogan?

  Okay. You know, there's some rough ones. Yeah, it's generally like the Russian ones are the more difficult ones, yeah, it's just. It's just, it's weird where parts of the world develop ways of sounding. That other parts, like if you, like, the way they talk in Japan versus Germany, you know, it's like. You know, it's like weird little Spanish now, like Brazil, it's almost like a sing-songy, the way they say. You know, the way they talk about it, it's like.

• 2:08:46Speaker 02

  Italian too, yeah.

• 2:08:47Joe Rogan?

  Yes, Italian's very, very sing-songy. You know, it's weird, different parts of the world just decide, like, no, we're gonna be fucking stoic with the way we say things. And then you go to Italy, it's like they're all drunk, like.

• 2:09:02Joe Rogan?

  Kabish. Yeah, it's fun, they're like, they're having a good time, and then they're like, the colder the climate, the harsher the sounds. The harsher the words.

• 2:09:11Speaker 02

  Hard people.

• 2:09:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, hard people, yeah. The worst, uh, the worst time I've ever had trying to understand people that are speaking English was in Belfast.

• 2:09:22Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:09:23Joe Rogan?

  We were in Northern Ireland for UFC, and me and, me and this dude from Belfast got drunk at this bar. And I remember he just kept saying, I'll fight any man. That's he just kept repeating, no, he wasn't even a big guy. He was just, I'm like, I'm like, I believe you, and we were, we were all getting hammered. And, uh, just, that was back in the day when I could get drunk with locals, so.

• 2:09:46Speaker 02

  Can't do it anymore?

• 2:09:47Joe Rogan?

  Nah, because, see Theo Von got in an altercation in Nashville yesterday, or a couple of days ago. Yeah, some guy was fucking with him for some viral video, and Theo grabbed him by the neck and pushed him away.

• 2:09:57Speaker 02

  Theo been training, you been doing some jujitsu training or what?

• 2:09:59Joe Rogan?

  I don't believe so.

• 2:10:01Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:10:01Joe Rogan?

  I believe it's probably a bad move. You never know who you're grabbing, but the guy was just doing it to get a rise out of Theo, he's fucking with him, but, um.

• 2:10:09Speaker 02

  That's the tough part about being in public, is like.

• 2:10:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but back then I wasn't so famous, I could, I could go around, so it was fun.

• 2:10:16Speaker 02

  No one ever tried to fuck with you when you were out?

• 2:10:17Joe Rogan?

  Nah, nah, they're all friendly.

• 2:10:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:10:20Joe Rogan?

  Most of the people who know me are nice, who know of me, it's like, every now and then I get a side eye from a blue hair, you know?

• 2:10:27Speaker 02

  Wearing a mask. Take your mask off, I can't understand you. Take your mask down.

• 2:10:31Joe Rogan?

  That I helped Trump. That's where it really ramped up. Before the Trump thing, people didn't bother me.

• 2:10:35Speaker 02

  The Kamala stuff about, what a moron to not come on the show.

• 2:10:39Joe Rogan?

  Well Pierre didn't come on either from Canada. I offered to have him on as well.

• 2:10:42Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:10:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, his people, his people didn't want him coming on. His people apparently thought that it was a bad idea for him to come on the show.

• 2:10:51Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, I think anybody with a brain knows that Trump coming on here had a big sway on the election.

• 2:10:57Joe Rogan?

  I think Trump is a unique individual, though. If you talk to a politician that only does well with canned questions and with speeches that were written in advance by skillful people, like it's, Trump famously rants. Okay, so to have that ability to go up in front of 15,000 people and just have a rough outline of what you're gonna talk about. And so I said to him, you know, and he just like started, what he's doing Biden wandering around like not knowing where he's going, it's, bro, he's doing stand-up.

• 2:11:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:11:32Joe Rogan?

  And he has a set and he's doing this set to arenas all over the, everybody else has a script. Everybody else is reading off a teleprompter. Everybody else has to know what they're gonna be asked in advance.

• 2:11:45Speaker 02

  I mean Biden famously had the questions and who to call on and what the answer was supposed to be on that note card that got multiple times, it got exposed.

• 2:11:52Joe Rogan?

  Take whatever they gave him before the debate.

• 2:11:55Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh.

• 2:11:56Joe Rogan?

  I bet it's awesome. I bet it's like that shit from that Bradley Cooper movie.

• 2:11:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:12:00Joe Rogan?

  Where all of a sudden you start seeing numbers in front of you and you're like, I think I got it. I think I could do the debate. Like, cause every other time he's like barely coherent.

• 2:12:10Speaker 02

  Well, that and an earpiece, he did pretty well.

• 2:12:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there was probably some way of communicating with him, for sure. I mean, I don't know why they would risk it. Kamala had some weird earrings. Remember those earrings?

• 2:12:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:12:21Joe Rogan?

  And the company that made those blue teeth earrings was like kinda taking credit for it.

• 2:12:28Speaker 02

  Nah, nothing to see here. I just think it's funny. Now, there's the one guy on CNN wrote a book about Biden's, you know, cognitive decline. He was like one of the biggest proponents of like, no, he's sharp as ever, sharp as a tack. You know?

• 2:12:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know why they thought they could write that.

• 2:12:44Speaker 02

  But it was all, it was all fucking theater. They do a debate before anyone's ever done a debate. Let him go up there without his drugs, without his uppers, without his earpiece. Trump's response to some of those, I don't know what you said, but.

• 2:12:58Joe Rogan?

  I don't think he does either.

• 2:13:01Speaker 02

  I was laughing, I go, what the fuck is this?

• 2:13:04Joe Rogan?

  He does either.

• 2:13:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then they just fucking move him out of the way.

• 2:13:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, how about, we beat Medicaid, okay, and they cut the time off, like, oh my God, like, what are you doing? You guys set him up. But it's so bad, it was so bad for the Democratic Party, because if they were just honest about that, and then had a primary, I just don't think he wanted to step down. And Jill didn't want to step down.

• 2:13:28Speaker 02

  No, Jill, Jill didn't.

• 2:13:30Joe Rogan?

  He's as sharp as ever. Remember she did the one thing afterwards where he got done, she, you answered all the questions.

• 2:13:38Speaker 02

  So good.

• 2:13:39Joe Rogan?

  My wife said that to me, I'm like, what are you, what did they give you? Are you high? What the fuck are you talking about? Of course I answered all the questions.

• 2:13:46Speaker 02

  She just answered the questions for him on The View as well.

• 2:13:48Joe Rogan?

  That was even better, like, Dr. Jill's on here.

• 2:13:51Speaker 02

  You did such a great job. You were such a great president.

• 2:13:54Joe Rogan?

  Is she a doctor, like a medical doctor, or is she like a PhD?

• 2:13:57Speaker 02

  She's like me, she's got an honorary degree.

• 2:13:59Joe Rogan?

  No. No.

• 2:14:01Speaker 02

  No, she probably has.

• 2:14:02Joe Rogan?

  I think she has a real one, right?

• 2:14:06Joe Rogan?

  But that doctor thing is very sneaky. We should need a different distinction, you know, like it should be PhD, which is very impressive. Like, you should be able to say, I'm PhD Aaron Rodgers.

• 2:14:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:19Joe Rogan?

  But you have to say, I'm Dr. Aaron Rodgers, right? Like, if you got a real PhD in something?

• 2:14:24Speaker 02

  I think I'd say PhD.

• 2:14:26Joe Rogan?

  Right, but would you introduce yourself like that? That sounds gross. But saying Dr. Rogers is like, oh, Dr. Jill.

• 2:14:33Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:14:34Joe Rogan?

  Yes, it's doctor, you're a doctor.

• 2:14:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, doctor.

• 2:14:36Joe Rogan?

  They used to call Cosby, Dr. Cosby. A lot of people call it, because he got an honorary.

• 2:14:44Joe Rogan?

  I'm just putting this out there. I'll speak at university if you give me an honorary. I want to be Dr. Rogan. I think it'd be fun.

• 2:14:50Speaker 02

  Oh, for sure.

• 2:14:51Joe Rogan?

  It'd be fun.

• 2:14:52Speaker 02

  People already think you are after your COVID comments.

• 2:14:54Joe Rogan?

  Uh, well, I was, I had a good doctor, actually. I had a good, real doctor. They gave me good advice.

• 2:15:02Speaker 02

  Hmm, yeah, how about that?

• 2:15:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, what a weird world we live in.

• 2:15:05Speaker 02

  Can't believe we're here.

• 2:15:06Joe Rogan?

  But what is Dr. Jill?

• 2:15:09Speaker 03

  Doc, in 2007, at age 55, she got a doctor of education from Delaware.

• 2:15:16Joe Rogan?

  Damn it, 55?

• 2:15:18Speaker 02

  Congrats.

• 2:15:19Joe Rogan?

  That's kind of wild. I wonder if she did it just to be a doctor? Like, I just really want that.

• 2:15:24Speaker 02

  This is gonna look good when Joe's the president.

• 2:15:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Dr. Jill. Didn't Jill?

• 2:15:30Speaker 02

  You know my favorite?

• 2:15:31Joe Rogan?

  She was like 15?

• 2:15:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. But when Biden was talking about his handicap to Trump.

• 2:15:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:15:37Speaker 02

  I'll play you if you, you gotta carry your own bag, though. Shut the fuck up.

• 2:15:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you gotta carry your own bag.

• 2:15:44Speaker 02

  There's an eight handicap, Joe.

• 2:15:46Joe Rogan?

  He falls down going upstairs. That's so rare. It's so rare that people fall down going upstairs. And you're gonna beat Trump at golf? Trump is actually really good at golf.

• 2:15:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:57Joe Rogan?

  Like, he wins his club tournaments.

• 2:15:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:00Joe Rogan?

  Which is crazy. Like, you're playing with, like, real golfers. Then, like, he's apparently a really good golfer.

• 2:16:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:06Joe Rogan?

  Like, what is his golf handicap?

• 2:16:08Speaker 02

  I think he's definitely a single-digit.

• 2:16:14Joe Rogan?

  But that's a crazy thing to say for Biden. Biden also said he would kick his ass. I'd kick his ass.

• 2:16:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:20Joe Rogan?

  I'd take him out to the woodshed.

• 2:16:23Joe Rogan?

  It was a fun time to watch.

• 2:16:25Speaker 02

  Remember when he told that worker, like, they're like some sort of steel mill or something? Punch you in the face or something?

• 2:16:30Joe Rogan?

  He called him a dog, dog-faced, what, a pony-faced liar? What the fuck did he say?

• 2:16:35Speaker 02

  Dog face.

• 2:16:36Joe Rogan?

  Dog, pony-faced dog soldier, something like that?

• 2:16:42Joe Rogan?

  A booty face, I don't remember what the phrase was.

• 2:16:44Speaker 02

  Fucking neck sniffer.

• 2:16:46Joe Rogan?

  But it was fascinating. It was fascinating watching people run cover for him, you know?

• 2:16:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:51Joe Rogan?

  It's just like, that really damaged the Democrat Party that they let them do that. Cause imagine if they didn't, imagine if they had a real primary, like a real one and you know.

• 2:17:00Speaker 02

  Do you think Bobby would have a chance?

• 2:17:02Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:17:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:17:03Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:17:03Speaker 02

  I think so too.

• 2:17:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, 100%. Especially if they let him talk, especially if they let him present some of the information that everybody's saying he's a kook, let me present this to you. And he's so calm, cause he's been doing this for so long, he doesn't get emotional, which is a real trap.

• 2:17:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:17:20Joe Rogan?

  When you're accused of being a kook and you get emotional, it's a real trap.

• 2:17:23Speaker 02

  Or it's super defensive.

• 2:17:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, super defensive and he doesn't do that.

• 2:17:26Speaker 02

  And I thought he was great in the, you know, in the sessions of Congress when he was trying to, what do they call that, when they're asking him all those questions and trying to fucking pin him down when he's nominated?

• 2:17:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:36Speaker 02

  Um, I thought he was great.

• 2:17:37Joe Rogan?

  No, he's great. But he's a brilliant guy.

• 2:17:39Speaker 02

  But these guys.

• 2:17:40Joe Rogan?

  If he didn't have this voice issue, it would be a shoe in. I mean, he would be.

• 2:17:44Speaker 02

  He would have won.

• 2:17:45Joe Rogan?

  He would have won. He would have been the next president. Like, I'm not bullshitting. If they, if the Democratic Party allowed him, they had no gatekeeping and allowed a real primary and Bobby got in and Bobby didn't have a voice problem and he had the intellect that he has and the background that he has and the, the history of environmental protection that he has. I mean, he was an environmental attorney that literally helped clean up the East River. He stopped these companies from poisoning the environment.

• 2:18:15Speaker 02

  And that's my problem with the entire Democratic Party is that, is that just because Trump won and Elon is working for him and Bobby's working for him and insert anybody's put in his cabinet, all the good shit that they're doing, the billions that Elon has found of just fraud and corruption and bullshit. Bobby's saying, hey, let's just look at these vaccines. Let's look at the efficacy. Let's do real safety tests on these. Like, all the common sense shit that's going on right now. By the cabinet members, dissolving the Department of Education, all the different things they're doing, like if it's good for the country, if it's common sense, good for the country, then why are we not on fucking board with this?

• 2:18:56Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't mean you shouldn't criticize the bad stuff. But if you criticize everything, or if you ignore all the good stuff, then no one's gonna listen to you. You can't do that. It's like if you have an enemy, if I have an enemy, I don't have any enemies, but if I had one and he was really good at something, I'd be like, I think he's a piece of shit, but I'll tell you what, he's fucking talented, like this thing that he does, he's really good at it. That's just fact. It just is what it is. And if you think someone's doing, if they're on the wrong party in your eyes, but they're doing something good, you're like, I think that's good. I think this is important, it's good for everybody. Like it has nothing to do with parties. It should have nothing to do. If there's something that a person that you don't like, who's in office, and they pass a bill, and that bill benefits us all, we should all celebrate. And the fact that we don't is nuts.

• 2:19:41Joe Rogan?

  The fact that no one cared that Elon brought those fucking people back from space, the guy's a fucking hero for that, and any other time in history, any other time in history, the super genius sent a fucking rocket to go rescue the people that were trapped in orbit because NASA couldn't. They couldn't.

• 2:19:57Speaker 02

  And if he'd done it in 2016, when Obama was in there, it would have been fucking great.

• 2:20:01Joe Rogan?

  It would have been great. And they could have done it while Biden was in office, but they wouldn't let him do it because politically, it would look like a victory for Trump because Elon supports Trump. So they left those people up there.

• 2:20:15Speaker 02

  That's fucking wrong.

• 2:20:16Joe Rogan?

  It's evil. It's evil. It shouldn't be a political thing.

• 2:20:19Speaker 02

  Ninety-six percent of the articles about Elon are bad.

• 2:20:22Joe Rogan?

  Ninety-six percent, yeah.

• 2:20:24Speaker 02

  You're attacking one of the smartest guys in the country, who literally is spending part of his time trying to fucking clean up the government, efficiency, and waste, and corruption, and fraud?

• 2:20:34Joe Rogan?

  And there was a comparison to ninety-six percent of something else that was all good, that might not be good. See if you can find what that comparison was.

• 2:20:43Speaker 02

  Talking about Pelosi's stock trades or something?

• 2:20:46Joe Rogan?

  You don't hear a peep out of that. There's no media stories about, except Fox.

• 2:20:50Speaker 02

  Wasn't there a bill that was put out there that was trying to stop?

• 2:20:53Joe Rogan?

  Called a Pelosi bill. They were calling the Pelosi bill.

• 2:20:55Speaker 02

  Didn't fucking make it, huh?

• 2:20:57Joe Rogan?

  I love the one time when she gets asked during a press briefing, it's like, wow, I

• 2:21:02Speaker 02

  participate all right there's no conflict of interests

• 2:21:09Joe Rogan?

  she's four winds in going what are they talking stock trading I don't even know what they're talking about

• 2:21:14Speaker 02

  they would bring this up

• 2:21:16Joe Rogan?

  I mean that's something that Elon has said we should investigate that how come these people are what

• 2:21:21Speaker 02

  sides

• 2:21:22Joe Rogan?

  on both sides it is on both sides 100% that's something that maybe we could have bipartisan support for you know there's some bipartisan things that people support one of them is the new Ibo game research which is wonderful it got past the first step in Texas

• 2:21:38Speaker 02

  good

• 2:21:38Joe Rogan?

  the Ibo game for then they're gonna do PTSD for soldiers veterans that has bipartisan support I love when something has bipartisan support that should do

• 2:21:49Speaker 02

  yeah

• 2:21:50Joe Rogan?

  yeah the Elon stuff should be like look what you look what he's done

• 2:21:54Speaker 02

  we should be championing it

• 2:21:55Joe Rogan?

  yeah

• 2:21:55Speaker 02

  okay you don't like his politics fine

• 2:21:57Joe Rogan?

  right

• 2:21:58Speaker 02

  you loved it before you love the green cars and electric cars and shit

• 2:22:03Joe Rogan?

  right it's all so kooky

• 2:22:05Speaker 02

  until he fucking won the election for Trump and now he's running Trump and he's running the government look at his kid on Trump's lap and blah blah blah blah

• 2:22:12Joe Rogan?

  I think as soon as he got the Twitter files and he found out what the government was doing he was like whoa imagine you have so much money that you could actually buy a conspiracy you could find the answer because that's what it is it's like the only time in history

• 2:22:28Speaker 02

  Island would have been if we could

• 2:22:30Joe Rogan?

  we still wouldn't have gotten anything out except listening devices I bet they're everywhere they would have to gut the walls they would probably got if they sold us they probably got the walls

• 2:22:38Speaker 02

  no as is

• 2:22:40Joe Rogan?

  yeah

• 2:22:41Speaker 02

  as is

• 2:22:43Joe Rogan?

  as is

• 2:22:44Speaker 02

  no contingencies just as is

• 2:22:45Joe Rogan?

  yeah I mean

• 2:22:48Speaker 02

  there's other islands though

• 2:22:49Joe Rogan?

  that's I bet there is right

• 2:22:52Speaker 02

  ask your buddy Alex about it probably I bet he knows

• 2:22:55Joe Rogan?

  black helicopters take him over the island

• 2:22:57Speaker 02

  you're so good

• 2:23:00Joe Rogan?

  that's the only impression I could do

• 2:23:01Speaker 02

  yeah Alex looks good man

• 2:23:02Joe Rogan?

  even joking

• 2:23:03Speaker 02

  lost some weight looks good

• 2:23:04Joe Rogan?

  he looks fucking great

• 2:23:05Speaker 02

  yeah

• 2:23:05Joe Rogan?

  my friend Sean's training him

• 2:23:06Speaker 02

  nice

• 2:23:07Joe Rogan?

  yeah he's been working with him every day he's makes him work out come on we're doing it come on oh come on let me check my Twitter real quick see how my engagement's doing If Elon didn't allow him to put Infowars on Twitter too, he puts all of his shows on Twitter. And they got millions and millions of views. And guess what? He's right all the fucking time, all the fucking time. And they just want Sandy Hook and Sandy Hook. No one even knows who did Sandy Hook. You ask the average person Sandy Hook that connected to Alex Jones. They don't even know the guy who was the actual murderer. And here's my question. How does one get bad information about that? And how much that bad information is fed to a guy like him so that he repeats it?

• 2:23:52Joe Rogan?

  So that you could trap him and then you accuse him of it?

• 2:23:56Speaker 02

  Well, he's been right so many times about some of the other things.

• 2:23:59Joe Rogan?

  They got him with that one.

• 2:24:01Speaker 02

  But I mean, that's what I mean, because he's been right so many times, you gotta shut him up.

• 2:24:04Joe Rogan?

  It's a way. I mean, it's certainly, and in the oslo, he was like, he was going through it during that time. He was drinking way, way, way too much. He was drinking all day. And he was, imagine you're in a job where you're uncovering things that nobody else knows all the time. All the time.

• 2:24:22Speaker 02

  It's a lot of pressure, a lot of...

• 2:24:24Joe Rogan?

  There's no way you could research all of it too, down to the bone either. And when someone sends you videos that have been doctored, or you know, someone tries to tell you they're using crisis actors. That's a classic one. People say they use crisis actors, like, I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that there have been times where the government was trying to promote some sort of a narrative. And maybe they did something that went sideways and then they brought in some people to pretend that they saw something that didn't happen. Or they described something in a way that wasn't true or accurate. I think the government would definitely do that. They've done so much.

• 2:24:59Speaker 02

  They've done so much. Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods.

• 2:25:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. The idea that they wouldn't lie, they wouldn't have people, but I don't think that would work anymore. See, the thing is, yeah.

• 2:25:10Speaker 02

  Because you can't control Joe Concerned Citizen on the street with their phone out.

• 2:25:15Joe Rogan?

  Too many people have phones. It's like that, that fucking ship has left the harbor. You're not doing that anymore, I don't think, unless...

• 2:25:25Joe Rogan?

  Unless you're using like super sophisticated makeup techniques, which they also have.

• 2:25:30Speaker 02

  See some of those masks that people can put on, they look.

• 2:25:32Joe Rogan?

  Insane.

• 2:25:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:33Joe Rogan?

  Insane, especially in nighttime situations, like outdoor nighttime situations, like there's no, they, you could be.

• 2:25:40Speaker 02

  Couldn't tell the difference.

• 2:25:40Joe Rogan?

  No way. Those masks are insane. They're so, see if you can find some of them CIA masks. And by the way, this is just the shit they show you.

• 2:25:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:48Joe Rogan?

  You tell me they don't have more advanced stuff now?

• 2:25:50Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying about the, you know, the propulsion systems that they have and your guy was saying that stuff too, like.

• 2:25:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:25:58Speaker 02

  Half, half the stuff in the sky is probably ours.

• 2:26:00Joe Rogan?

  Or someone else's. That's the scary thing. The scary thing is China.

• 2:26:05Speaker 02

  Well, the scary thing, I was living in New Jersey last year when the drone stuff was going on.

• 2:26:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy. Did you see him?

• 2:26:10Speaker 02

  I saw a drone, military style drone, silent drone above, drove, it flew right over my car.

• 2:26:15Joe Rogan?

  It was silent?

• 2:26:16Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:26:17Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:26:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:26:18Joe Rogan?

  It made no noise?

• 2:26:19Speaker 02

  No noise.

• 2:26:20Joe Rogan?

  Did you open the window and get out of the car?

• 2:26:22Speaker 02

  The window was, I was leaning my head out, looking up at it, and it was probably fifty yards or less up in the sky and it flew right over my car. And there were, and I'd sit in my backyard at night and see a lot of weird shit in the skies.

• 2:26:36Joe Rogan?

  What did it look like?

• 2:26:37Speaker 02

  That one looked like a military style drone.

• 2:26:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, like one of those ones that shoots the rockets out of it?

• 2:26:43Speaker 02

  It was more like the size of this room end to end.

• 2:26:45Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:26:46Speaker 02

  Actually, less, probably three quarters of the size of it.

• 2:26:48Joe Rogan?

  Wow. And so it looked like the standard military drone, but it was silent?

• 2:26:53Speaker 02

  Yep. And it flew right, I was trying to point at the cars behind me to look up at it, because it was going nuts. Everybody was talking about it. I had, I had coaches who'd seen them over their house, different ones. Most of them they were seeing were military style ones, but there was a lot of people and a lot of stuff I saw in the sky that didn't look like military stuff.

• 2:27:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Mark Norman saw one, didn't he?

• 2:27:11Speaker 02

  They weren't saying shit about it.

• 2:27:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:13Speaker 02

  They had some briefing and the New Jersey governor comes out and goes, uh, you know, something's going on here. They won't tell us what's going on. There's something, I ran off the coast and blah, blah, and then just went, and then Trump said, oh, we know what it is. But nobody ever said what it was.

• 2:27:26Joe Rogan?

  And then it stopped.

• 2:27:26Speaker 02

  And then.

• 2:27:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:28Speaker 02

  And there was theories they were looking for some sort of missing missile and there was this and that.

• 2:27:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:34Speaker 02

  That's creepy.

• 2:27:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, I was really worried about that, you know, the, the transfer of power, like would have been interrupted if there was some sort of a nuclear explosion.

• 2:27:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:44Joe Rogan?

  Like, they wouldn't, they, there's ways to.

• 2:27:48Speaker 02

  And a lot of people thinking that something might, might happen.

• 2:27:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, that was, look, they tried to kill him. Somebody tried to kill him.

• 2:27:55Speaker 02

  Twice.

• 2:27:56Joe Rogan?

  And the one, yeah, but the one that where the kid on the roof, that one's nuts. And that is, you want to be a conspiracy theorist?

• 2:28:05Speaker 02

  And that's the thing, they can't hold-

• 2:28:06Joe Rogan?

  Start with that one.

• 2:28:06Speaker 02

  They can't, they can't control Joe Concerned Citizen aside, and they're, who's like, hey, there's a guy up there. There's a guy up there.

• 2:28:14Joe Rogan?

  Not only that-

• 2:28:15Speaker 02

  Ninety seconds before it happened.

• 2:28:16Joe Rogan?

  They can't control the internet sleuths that have tracked a phone from outside where the area of the FBI office to this guy's place.

• 2:28:25Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:28:26Joe Rogan?

  Multiple times, back and forth. They can't track how his fucking apartment was professionally scrubbed. Where there's no silverware? There's nothing there? No hard drives? No laptops? He doesn't have, he doesn't have social media?

• 2:28:40Speaker 02

  And if he doesn't turn his head?

• 2:28:42Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:28:42Speaker 02

  Ninety degrees or whatever?

• 2:28:43Joe Rogan?

  How do you get radicalized without being on social media? I want to know that.

• 2:28:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:28:48Joe Rogan?

  Like, how do you even get so politically responsible at twenty years old?

• 2:28:52Speaker 02

  So what is it? Is it a continuance?

• 2:28:54Joe Rogan?

  How'd you get that BlackRock commercial, Billy?

• 2:28:55Speaker 02

  Is it a continuance of the MKUltra stuff?

• 2:28:58Joe Rogan?

  Uh, yeah, for sure, I would think. I'm, I don't know, I'm talking out my ass. But if I had to guess, I think you can do that. I think, listen, for all the conversations that I've had with people that are mind control experts, including earlier this week, um, Rebecca Lemov, I think not only have they tried to do that since the 1950s, but they've successfully done it to certain people, certain individuals. They've successfully manipulated people. I think they did it with the Manson family. And I don't think that stuff just ends at nineteen.

• 2:29:30Speaker 02

  The Chaos book was awesome.

• 2:29:31Joe Rogan?

  Incredible.

• 2:29:32Speaker 02

  Great book, and you had him on here.

• 2:29:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't think that ended. Why would they end that if it's effective? They would just, like, be more secretive about it, just like they're probably super secretive about these propulsion systems. I mean, it's like- We want to pretend that the government works for us. We want to pretend like there are representatives, but clearly, there's all this money flowing around and all these people that have power and secrecy. And Kennedy railed about it in the 1960s and they shot him in the head.

• 2:30:03Speaker 02

  Speaking of that, then they, that whole thing, because that's what got me into questioning things. And then they roll out, what, four or five internet influenced people to give them some notebook or some shit, like they actually released some information about the Kennedy files. And it's literally a heavily redacted, just pile of nothingness.

• 2:30:26Joe Rogan?

  My question about that is, if you're gonna shoot Kennedy, you're not gonna write it down. I don't think we're gonna find anything. I didn't think we were gonna find anything that's like, "We did it. We were in the grassy knoll and we hired these assassins and here's their pay stubs." What I thought it would be is maybe we would find out some information about who Lee Harvey Oswald was actually working for. Maybe we would find out how he was able to defect to Russia and then come back to America. How he got in the schoolbook depository and nobody, like, they don't do a security run of the area where the Secret Service checks to see where the vulnerabilities would be. They do that kind of stuff. Why would you put him in an open convertible?

• 2:31:09Joe Rogan?

  When you have like multiple places where people can hide. Yeah. It seems like they killed him.

• 2:31:15Speaker 02

  And the Zapruder, the Zapruder film.

• 2:31:17Joe Rogan?

  And so I think they killed, like, somebody asked me this the other night onstage. It was one of those bottom of the barrel questions. Would you, if you could find out who killed JFK or if aliens are real? I'm like, aliens?

• 2:31:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31:29Joe Rogan?

  Because I'm pretty sure I know who killed JFK. Like, I'm pretty sure our government was involved and I'm pretty sure there was, the mob was probably involved and a bunch of fucking really pissed off guys.

• 2:31:40Speaker 02

  And the FBI overhated the Kennedys?

• 2:31:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then the Bay of Pigs went down and a lot of pissed off-

• 2:31:47Speaker 02

  And Dulles's whereabouts, him getting fired, Dulles's connection-

• 2:31:49Joe Rogan?

  Yup.

• 2:31:50Speaker 02

  All the way back to the OSS, to the Bush family.

• 2:31:52Joe Rogan?

  Lot of people wanted JFK dead. Lot of people want that to me-

• 2:31:56Speaker 02

  Silver standard.

• 2:31:57Joe Rogan?

  That to me makes sense. The alien thing makes- If the JFK thing was a total mystery, still, I'll say the alien thing, because he's dead, he died in sixty-three, there's nothing you could do about that. I want to know what's going on.

• 2:32:10Speaker 02

  So do I.

• 2:32:11Joe Rogan?

  That's what I want to know. That's my number one thing. I want to know what is going on. Because I think something's going on. I don't think it's nothing.

• 2:32:18Speaker 02

  I think it's coming.

• 2:32:19Joe Rogan?

  And I think some of it is ours. I think some of it is not. And I think we probably have been in contact with things. And I think if they-

• 2:32:27Speaker 02

  Since at least the forties, I think.

• 2:32:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And before that.

• 2:32:32Speaker 02

  What about, one thing we haven't, it's slightly related to that, but how about Millie releasing the files in Argentina about Hitler going out there?

• 2:32:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, isn't that wild? Is that, is that confirmed? That Hitler did go, lived in Ar- he survived?

• 2:32:48Speaker 02

  There's a ton of German Nazi stuff in Argentina.

• 2:32:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, Tim Kennedy went down there for a television show called Finding Hitler.

• 2:32:56Speaker 02

  Finding Hitler, I remember that.

• 2:32:57Joe Rogan?

  You go down there, they have Oktoberfest.

• 2:32:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:32:59Joe Rogan?

  There's towns where they all were, Lederhosen, and they all fucking speak German.

• 2:33:02Speaker 02

  But we also know that there was at least five or six Hitlers. Like, he had multiple body doubles.

• 2:33:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 2:33:09Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:33:10Joe Rogan?

  Once cranked out, but he had that idea. He's sitting there going, I want to find fucking more of me. Can we clone me yet? Just figure out how to fucking clone me.

• 2:33:19Speaker 02

  Hey, Gerbils, can we get rid of this cracked-out Hitler here? He's, he's making us look bad.

• 2:33:25Joe Rogan?

  And who would have ever thought that in twenty twenty-five Kanye has it in a song?

• 2:33:29Speaker 02

  My god.

• 2:33:31Joe Rogan?

  We're, like, what, what is the next crazy thing that's gonna explode in the news? Is Bill Clinton's gonna have an OnlyFans? Like, what is gonna happen? What is the next thing that's gonna make us all go, what the fuck? Like, what the fuck is going on?

• 2:33:45Speaker 02

  It's coming. You know it's coming.

• 2:33:48Joe Rogan?

  How many guys were on video saying, ain't no party like a Diddy party? How many, how many people, like, openly talked about being there?

• 2:33:57Speaker 02

  LeBron?

• 2:33:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, how, Ashton Kutcher, all these people. Like, you guys all went, you didn't see nothing? You didn't see nothing?

• 2:34:03Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:34:04Speaker 03

  Donnell.

• 2:34:05Joe Rogan?

  Donnell went? Did he?

• 2:34:07Speaker 02

  Of course he did.

• 2:34:08Speaker 03

  He was trying to defend himself.

• 2:34:10Joe Rogan?

  Is he really? Is he trying to defend himself right now?

• 2:34:13Speaker 03

  It's pretty funny.

• 2:34:13Joe Rogan?

  I gotta call him up. Donnell, you gotta back away from that.

• 2:34:21Speaker 02

  Isn't there a video with Kamala? She was at one of the Diddy parties? Isn't he, isn't she in the background with?

• 2:34:29Joe Rogan?

  It might have been the difference between Diddy parties and freak-offs. Oh my god.

• 2:34:33Speaker 03

  They're giving shit too because he's sitting in his little...

• 2:34:35Speaker 02

  Oh, the guy from Chappelle's Show?

• 2:34:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And then Dave's there too, and then Russell Simmons too. Oh, boy. But is that at a party, or is that just a group of them together?

• 2:34:44Speaker 03

  They were like on a yacht or something like that.

• 2:34:46Joe Rogan?

  Okay, but that's not the Diddy parties.

• 2:34:48Speaker 03

  No, yeah, yeah, it's not like they were at kind of...

• 2:34:49Speaker 02

  I think, you think Diddy was rogue, or Diddy was like Epstein type, working for somebody?

• 2:34:55Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question. Well, it would be a great way to compromise celebrities. Yeah, and get them to say whatever you want them to do, get them to do whatever projects you'd like them to do.

• 2:35:09Joe Rogan?

  And you know, if you're a bunch of other celebrities, you're there, you're like, oh, look, Bill Clinton's here, this is fine.

• 2:35:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:35:15Joe Rogan?

  This is cool. Look at this. Like Brad Pitt's here. Well, this is cool. You don't even think there's anything wrong with being there. Meanwhile, you're getting drugged up and filmed, and then they're passing out punch. Have some punch, Aaron. And you have some punch, and all of a sudden, you're like, I'm feeling really good. I just feel amazing. You're all mollyed up. You don't know what the fuck you're doing. Probably a combination of things they give you.

• 2:35:40Speaker 02

  And it's all being filmed.

• 2:35:42Joe Rogan?

  Crazy. Now, if that's not an intelligence agency operation, it's just one fucking evil super genius who figures out how to compromise everybody by providing this crazy freak-off party, everybody's gotta put their phones away. Okay, we're gonna put our phones away, no one's gonna know anything. Yeah, I mean, there's cameras everywhere. It's just one guy doing that? What a diabolical human being.

• 2:36:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:06Joe Rogan?

  He seems pretty diabolical.

• 2:36:07Speaker 02

  He's probably working with somebody, or for somebody.

• 2:36:11Joe Rogan?

  Maybe.

• 2:36:11Speaker 02

  And maybe he just got too far out there.

• 2:36:13Joe Rogan?

  Some of the shit that came out in the trial, though, like he's forcing his girlfriend to have sex with prostitutes while he was sitting there jacking off with a bandana on. She'd rub the jizz on his nipples. Like, what are we even talking about?

• 2:36:28Speaker 02

  But what's he gonna go away for? Like, what's the charge?

• 2:36:31Joe Rogan?

  Good question.

• 2:36:32Speaker 02

  Is it kidnapping, or is it...

• 2:36:35Joe Rogan?

  I don't think he's even being charged for beating her up.

• 2:36:39Joe Rogan?

  Like the video of him beating her up? He's not even getting in charge for that. Megyn Kelly said that.

• 2:36:44Speaker 02

  Who's got, who's got all the, uh, all the videos?

• 2:36:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, where and then what's in the videos? What's that about? I mean, how, what would happen? What would happen?

• 2:36:55Speaker 02

  We need Candace, we need Candace to do a deep dive.

• 2:36:57Joe Rogan?

  If we got videos of thousands of celebrities just buttfucking each other and sucking dicks and taking molly and guys are passing them around like.

• 2:37:07Joe Rogan?

  Combs pleaded not guilty to the new superseding indictment, which added two charges to bring the total to five. He's charged with racketeering, conspiracy, transportation to engage in prostitution and sex trafficking. So he's not being charged with the assault.

• 2:37:23Speaker 02

  The sex trafficking is the worst.

• 2:37:24Joe Rogan?

  But he could get charged with it in the future. It's not like they can't like charge him with more stuff.

• 2:37:29Speaker 02

  That's, that's what needs to.

• 2:37:30Joe Rogan?

  Alleged to use threats, forced, force and coercion to get victims to engage in sex acts once allegedly dangling a victim over an apartment balcony, balcony, according to prosecutors. Jesus Christ.

• 2:37:45Joe Rogan?

  Okay, ex Diddy bodyguard says witnesses went missing before trial, said he was poisoned three times.

• 2:37:53Joe Rogan?

  Um, did you find the cyanide thing?

• 2:37:58Joe Rogan?

  But if you put it in.

• 2:37:59Speaker 02

  Oh, it's right there.

• 2:37:59Joe Rogan?

  Says.

• 2:38:00Speaker 02

  I've been poisoned three times, toxology report showed cyanide.

• 2:38:03Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, cyanide metabolizes into pneumonia in your body. So I've had pneumonia on three occasions, he claimed.

• 2:38:09Speaker 02

  Big homie.

• 2:38:10Joe Rogan?

  Big homie. These problems didn't start for me until I started to speak out about people like this. You know, it's been a hard time to line up this interview because the last time I was scheduled to be in this interview randomly, our car got hit from the side by a blacked out vehicle with no license plate. That happened three times this month so far. Somebody didn't want me to do this interview. Like, holy shit, man. Woo, um, but put it into Grok, um, cyanide poisoning, pneumonia. Cause I think it's not just him saying that or this article saying that. I think that's, that's a real thing.

• 2:38:45Speaker 02

  Do we like Grok?

• 2:38:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's pretty good. I mean, I think the, all of them are dependent upon the information that's out.

• 2:38:50Speaker 02

  The danger, the danger is that people are only like, if I'm on X and there'll be a story, the comments underneath are all saying, is this true at Grok?

• 2:39:00Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 2:39:00Speaker 02

  Or whatever.

• 2:39:01Joe Rogan?

  And Grok jumps in, yeah.

• 2:39:02Speaker 02

  But like, who's putting the information into Grok?

• 2:39:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, Grok's getting the information from the entirety, I believe, of the internet. And some of the entirety of the internet is lies and official lies like that have been accepted as truth by organizations. So that's a problem. Says, these are rare and indirect connections. There's no evidence that cyanide itself causes the infectious inflammatory process characteristic of pneumonia. If you are asking about a specific case or context, occupational exposure, a medical scenario, or historical incident, feel, feel free to provide more details and I can tailor the answer further. What is the, how'd you prompt it? Does cyanide poisoning lead to pneumonia?

• 2:39:44Speaker 02

  Not directly.

• 2:39:45Joe Rogan?

  Um, could you give someone pneumonia by poisoning them with cyanide? How about that?

• 2:39:53Joe Rogan?

  Could you give someone pneumonia?

• 2:39:55Speaker 02

  Say about this, Grok.

• 2:39:57Joe Rogan?

  Pneumonia by poisoning them with cyanide.

• 2:40:01Speaker 02

  Good spelling, Jamie.

• 2:40:03Joe Rogan?

  He's got one hand.

• 2:40:07Speaker 02

  No, I was impressed by your pneumonia.

• 2:40:08Joe Rogan?

  Doubles, double width, but Grok will know you're dumb. Causing pneumonia, uh, directly causing pneumonia by poisoning someone with cyanide is unlikely as cyanide doesn't create an infectious or inflammatory condition typically associated with pneumonia. Cyanide poisoning rapidly disrupts cellular oxygen use, leading to symptoms like respiratory distress, seizures, or unconsciousness, but it doesn't produce pathogens or cause lung inflammation characteristic of pneumonia.

• 2:40:39Speaker 02

  They could get hospital acquired pneumonia, it says there, secondary complications.

• 2:40:43Joe Rogan?

  Aspiration pneumonia. Cyanide poisoning causes unconsciousness or seizures. The person might aspirate vomit or saliva into their lungs. This can induce bacteria or irritants potentially leading to the aspiration pneumonia. A non-infectious form of the condition. So that's possible. And then secondary complications, the victim survives initial cyanide poisoning but requires prolonged hospitalization. Mechanical ventilation or intensive care could develop hospital acquired pneumonia or ventilator associated pneumonia due to exposure to pathogens or weakened defenses. That's another darkness about the fucking covid.

• 2:41:23Speaker 02

  The ventilator?

• 2:41:24Joe Rogan?

  How many people got killed by ventilators?

• 2:41:26Speaker 02

  The percentage is super high. People don't want to ventilate.

• 2:41:29Joe Rogan?

  They blew their lungs out.

• 2:41:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:41:31Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 2:41:31Speaker 02

  I haven't heard any apology about that.

• 2:41:33Joe Rogan?

  That's weird. Well, that was why, I think that's why they removed Cuomo. That and the fucking, the nursing home.

• 2:41:40Speaker 02

  He's running again though, isn't he?

• 2:41:41Joe Rogan?

  He's gonna be the mayor this time.

• 2:41:42Speaker 02

  Mayor, that's what it is, yeah.

• 2:41:44Joe Rogan?

  Maybe it'll be good. Maybe we'll do a good job this time. Maybe he learned his lesson.

• 2:41:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm sure.

• 2:41:49Joe Rogan?

  I mean, he's anti-establishment now, right? Because the establishment doesn't want him there.

• 2:41:54Speaker 02

  Well, his brother as well, supposedly.

• 2:41:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, his brother got kicked off of CNN. So, there you go. I mean, they're both kind of on, you know, the establishment kind of abandoned them.

• 2:42:03Speaker 02

  Are they getting redpilled?

• 2:42:04Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I don't, you know, it's like when you're a, if you're a guy who's on CNN and you're spouting that propaganda for years and then you decide, I'm not doing that anymore. I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be like you guys. Like, really? What about all the stuff you said that's not true? Like, all those times? Do you own up to it? And he doesn't, right? You saw the Dave Smith debate.

• 2:42:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:42:26Joe Rogan?

  He doesn't, doesn't own up to it. He thinks it's more complex, it's more nuanced.

• 2:42:30Speaker 02

  I thought Dave did great in that. I thought Dave did great when you had the other guy on there.

• 2:42:34Joe Rogan?

  Dave's a monster. Yeah, Dave, if you, like, people think, oh, he's a comic. You know, he's, he's not.

• 2:42:40Speaker 02

  He's a little more than that.

• 2:42:41Joe Rogan?

  He's, yeah, I mean, that guy's a voracious reader and he retains information.

• 2:42:46Speaker 02

  I love when you do the, uh, the voice of, what's the other guy's name who was on there?

• 2:42:50Joe Rogan?

  Douglas.

• 2:42:54Speaker 02

  So condescending.

• 2:42:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, that's one of his gifts. You know, it's like, um, what was I talking about with Dave? We're talking about.

• 2:43:03Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:43:04Joe Rogan?

  Cuomo. The Cuomo thing. Yeah, it's like. You gotta be square with people. You know, if you want people to trust you, you have to say that you fucked up.

• 2:43:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:13Joe Rogan?

  And if you can't say you fucked up, they're never gonna trust you. If you're always right, they're not gonna believe you. There's, no one's always right. And there's a lot of times you get things wrong where you thought you were right, and you can explain why you thought you were right. And then people get it, and they go, oh, well, he'll tell the truth. And if you don't do that, you can't do this. Because this is. What, it's like, once you've experienced someone that is not being directed to say certain things, and is completely open about it, and just a human being, like you and I, just humans, out there in the world trying to make some fucking sense out of this shit. Bullshitters won't work. It, it's not gonna work. You don't resonate. You'll get a certain amount of people that pay attention to you. There's a certain amount.

• 2:43:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:58Joe Rogan?

  It'll never really catch on, cuz you're a bullshitter. And you can't be a bullshitter and a truth teller at the same time. I mean, the truth teller is like a fucking, like, I'm a psychic, or I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a clairvoyant. You know, it's, it's like, it sounds like a bullshit phrase.

• 2:44:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:12Joe Rogan?

  Truth teller. But you gotta decide, am I telling the truth about, am I looking at this stuff for what I think it really is, and sticking my neck out and saying, I think we're wrong, I think we're lied to about virtually everything, and then this thing that we thought we weren't lied to, turns out we were lied to about that as well? So it's like, it's not like this one thing that they lied about, that everything else has been the truth. No, it's every fucking thing. But yet, this one thing is one, it's the holdout.

• 2:44:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:39Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 2:44:39Speaker 02

  But not this one here.

• 2:44:40Joe Rogan?

  Not this.

• 2:44:40Speaker 02

  Not this one.

• 2:44:41Joe Rogan?

  Not this one.

• 2:44:42Speaker 02

  That's why I always say, when people are trying to criticize me, go ahead. But just so everybody can put you in the right context, just list your vast, vac status. How many times have you vexed? Just so people know what fucking place you're coming from.

• 2:44:54Joe Rogan?

  Right. Did you get four or five? Did you get, did you go crazy and get all nine?

• 2:44:58Speaker 02

  But that's the thing, if you're not controlled. If you're not controlled, if you're not bought and paid for, if you don't have people you have to, like you, like if Spotify was saying, hey Joe, we love what you're doing, we give you all this money, but you gotta stay in this lane over here, you know, just so we don't upset anybody. But you're not. And that's why people didn't like the fact that you had all these different people on, from all walks of life and all sides of the aisles. Because there's too much information out there that might influence somebody to think about things a little bit differently. But you're not bought and paid for. You're not controlled.

• 2:45:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, not only that, but if I didn't go to Spotify, maybe I would have got pulled from places.

• 2:45:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:45:36Joe Rogan?

  Like if I was just independent like I was before and just on YouTube. A lot of people got pulled from YouTube for far less, but I wasn't on YouTube at the time. I was on Spotify when all that shit was going down with Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Ronald Malone. When all of those conversations were being taking place and people were freaking out, that was a time where I was only on Spotify.

• 2:45:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:45:57Joe Rogan?

  And that was huge.

• 2:45:59Speaker 02

  Thank God. People needed to hear that.

• 2:46:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because-

• 2:46:02Speaker 02

  If you weren't out there doing it, who was gonna fucking do it?

• 2:46:04Joe Rogan?

  But that's where I gotta give Spotify props. Cause they got a lot of pressure. They got a lot of pressure to yank me. When Neil Young and Joni Mitchell were, I get it, they're old. I get it, they're boomers. They don't get it. They don't know what's going on. I get it. I'm a Neil Young fan. I still listen to his music. I love that guy.

• 2:46:21Speaker 02

  Is his stuff back on Spotify?

• 2:46:22Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Yeah, it went back on Spotify.

• 2:46:25Speaker 02

  You caved?

• 2:46:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, also Neil, maybe apologize, cause I was right.

• 2:46:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:46:30Joe Rogan?

  Okay, you know, but these people still, probably to this day, will tell you that vaccines saved millions of lives. Like, you don't know what you're saying. You've been lied to. You've been lied to. Maybe they saved some lives, but I don't know what the number is. They also caused some problems. This is like reality. We shouldn't look at one part of reality because it suits our narrative. And this is what people are doing. They're just shoving their fucking head in the sand. Like, yeah. For some people, vaccines probably prevented them from getting measles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This seems like they work. It's not like they don't work at all, but also, they cause problems. We should be able to look at all these things.

• 2:47:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:47:08Joe Rogan?

  And that's where you have informed consent. Informed consent is you know what the possibilities are. Not that they've been lying to you and gaslighting you so that the doctor gets more incentives.

• 2:47:18Speaker 02

  Maybe they have.

• 2:47:19Joe Rogan?

  Right, but I mean, but but this is the thing like you should. Your decision should be based entirely on that, not the influence of a doctor who is incentivized.

• 2:47:27Speaker 02

  And you should know, uh, Mr. And Mrs. Uh, who are about to have a child. Just so you know, this doctor gets a kickback should you get the full seventy-two, seventy-five vaccine schedules.

• 2:47:39Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it's really seventy-two. I think it's like, is it seventy-two actual injections? Or is a bunch of different things mixed together like the MMR, they count that as three, you know, it's like one of those things.

• 2:47:48Speaker 02

  Okay, well, whatever the number is, let's just say it's twenty-five.

• 2:47:51Joe Rogan?

  But how about the ones?

• 2:47:51Speaker 02

  Let's say it's one.

• 2:47:52Joe Rogan?

  How about the ones are indefensible like hep C or hep B? What are you doing? Why would you even do that if it has side effects and you're giving it to a baby for a fucking sex disease?

• 2:48:01Speaker 02

  On day one, right, for hep B is day one, I believe?

• 2:48:04Joe Rogan?

  Crazy, totally unnecessary and crazy.

• 2:48:07Speaker 02

  Covid vaccine?

• 2:48:08Joe Rogan?

  Crazy, totally unnecessary and crazy.

• 2:48:12Speaker 02

  Seventy-two doses.

• 2:48:14Joe Rogan?

  Seventy-two doses of seventeen vaccines between birth and age eighteen. Holy shit. Most states mandate children get twenty-nine doses of nine vaccines to attend kindergarten. And children enrolled in daycare in many states are required to get multiple doses of thirteen vaccines.

• 2:48:30Speaker 02

  Suzanne was talking about tetanus. The tetanus one is wild.

• 2:48:34Joe Rogan?

  It's wild because tetanus is not dangerous. Like I always thought tetanus is gonna kill you. No, if you have an open wound with tetanus, you just wash it out and you won't get tetanus.

• 2:48:42Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:48:42Joe Rogan?

  What? Like, and then the number of cases of people that got tetanus, like zero.

• 2:48:46Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:48:47Joe Rogan?

  It's like, but they tricked us. When I was a kid, I was like, don't get tetanus. Get the tetanus shot. I was worried to get a rusty nail. A rusty nail is gonna give me a tetanus.

• 2:48:56Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:48:57Joe Rogan?

  Fucking idiots. They got us. They got us about so many different things and they got us because of profit. I think this is not a case for socialized medicine, but we wouldn't have this problem if they couldn't profit off of this stuff. If there was like a tight regulatory body that wasn't bought and paid for, like when you see like people from the FDA going directly to Pfizer.

• 2:49:20Speaker 02

  Or the CDC.

• 2:49:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, this is crazy that you allow this to happen.

• 2:49:24Speaker 02

  Well, you guys were regulating them and now you're going over and be on the board of that one.

• 2:49:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but if we didn't have that and you only had medicine distributed in a way that's gonna stop illnesses and fit cure diseases, like keep it pure, who knows where it could have gone?

• 2:49:38Speaker 02

  But why is that, why is that a partisan issue? It should be, everybody should be on fucking board with it.

• 2:49:44Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:49:45Speaker 02

  We want the healthiest kids. We have an epidemic of childhood issues.

• 2:49:49Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:49:50Speaker 02

  And disease. Bobby talks about it all the time. It's all over.

• 2:49:53Joe Rogan?

  The richest country and the sickest country. Makes no sense.

• 2:49:56Speaker 02

  And now we're one in 12 in California with autism?

• 2:49:58Joe Rogan?

  And.

• 2:49:59Speaker 02

  And, and, and don't even fucking start talking about vaccines.

• 2:50:02Joe Rogan?

  And there's things that we could point to that are gonna cause that and we're aware of them and people don't wanna hear it. They don't wanna hear it.

• 2:50:11Speaker 02

  You don't wanna know as you're, you're about to have a kid and you have an 8.3% chance in California of your kid getting autism and all you're gonna potentially open your mind to is there might be some environmental factors.

• 2:50:24Joe Rogan?

  It used to be one in 10,000.

• 2:50:26Speaker 02

  How about, let's fucking look at the food. Let's look at the environmentalists for sure. Let's look at the fucking vaccines.

• 2:50:32Joe Rogan?

  We were talking the other day about golf courses, that they're finding out if you live within a mile of a golf course, you have a high likelihood of getting Parkinson's, like by a hundred and something percent more.

• 2:50:43Speaker 02

  Because of chemicals.

• 2:50:44Joe Rogan?

  Because of the chemicals, because of glyphosate, because you're spraying all this fucking shit all over there.

• 2:50:48Speaker 02

  How about banning, uh, you know, GMO products?

• 2:50:50Speaker 03

  A little contradiction I found.

• 2:50:51Joe Rogan?

  The tetanus?

• 2:50:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, just read that.

• 2:50:54Joe Rogan?

  In 2022, 267 cases and 13 deaths from tetanus were reported.

• 2:50:58Speaker 03

  So that's a small number, I would say, right?

• 2:51:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, out of all the people that stepped on nails, 13 deaths, but how many of them could have been prevented if they just had the, the wound cleaned, like Suzanne Humphries was saying?

• 2:51:10Speaker 03

  The same website, CDC website says one in 10 in the United States are fatal.

• 2:51:14Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 2:51:15Speaker 03

  Which is, that's, that number would be way higher if that'd be 200, you know?

• 2:51:18Speaker 02

  That's one in 20 there.

• 2:51:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:51:20Speaker 02

  Over a 10-year period.

• 2:51:21Joe Rogan?

  That's still, that's crazy. Who says that? The CDC? I don't fucking trust them.

• 2:51:27Joe Rogan?

  Get your shot. Get your shot, Aaron. You need the tetanus.

• 2:51:30Speaker 02

  What are you afraid of? You afraid of needles?

• 2:51:32Joe Rogan?

  If Suzanne is correct, and I believe she is, then it's not the thing that we're so fucking terrified of. I don't want to get it. Don't get me wrong. But what is this, what's the side effects of the vaccine? Is there any? Is it possible that some people get them side effects and some people don't, like every other fucking drug there is? Why are you lying about the side effects of this one drug? And how come you don't have any responsibility? No legal responsibility if you-

• 2:51:56Speaker 02

  Zero.

• 2:51:57Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:51:58Speaker 02

  Zero accountability. Zero-

• 2:52:00Joe Rogan?

  But you can't give any company that kind of leeway. Because they're especially a massive for-profit company that makes fucking hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars. You can't give them that kind of ability. Because they're just going to figure out a way to make more money. That's what their job is. Your job is to regulate them, to make sure that they don't give us stuff that kills us. Their job is to make the most money they can make. Within the boundaries. So if they're paying you to dissolve those boundaries and have this revolving door where the people that run these agencies go right into the pharmaceutical drug companies, the people that make the fucking laws and reinforce them know that they're going to get a cushy fucking golden parachute.

• 2:52:43Joe Rogan?

  They're already counting on that fucking AMGS class. They're already thinking about that vacation home they're going to buy with all that pharm- They're parachuting into a lovely mansion. And you can't give that, you can't give that to people that are getting a fucking civil servant salary. You can't dangle that golden carrot and not to expect it to have some sort of an effect on the global health of the fucking whole world.

• 2:53:14Joe Rogan?

  You can't let them go wild. You gotta, they're gonna make plenty of money. Just keep them inside the what's actually good. Cause there's a lot of stuff they make that's actually good.

• 2:53:25Speaker 02

  Take them off the airways, see what happens.

• 2:53:27Joe Rogan?

  Bunch of guys out there running around with boners that wouldn't have them. If it wasn't for the pharmaceutical drug company. I heard they're about to fix hair loss. Look, there's some stuff that's good, but you gotta have regulation. You gotta have someone who's like saying, this is only what's good, not just for profit. And I don't know if socialized medicine fixes that because everybody that I talked to that's in England. Everybody I talked to in Canada.

• 2:53:50Speaker 02

  Fucking terrible.

• 2:53:51Joe Rogan?

  Takes forever to get shit fixed. Takes forever to get a fucking scan. If you think something might be wrong, you might have cancer, it's forever.

• 2:53:58Speaker 02

  You break a bone and you can't get a scan for eight weeks.

• 2:54:01Joe Rogan?

  My friend Jen, she blew her ACL out, shout out to the rivets. My friend's up in Alberta, she blew her knee out and she couldn't get a fucking operation for a year. She had a wa- she's a bear hunting guide. Okay, so she's got a, she's hardy people, bro. Okay, she's got a fucking giant ACL, uh.

• 2:54:20Speaker 02

  Brace.

• 2:54:20Joe Rogan?

  Spring, the giant brace, the hard one on the outside, the fucking ones you Velcro down.

• 2:54:25Speaker 02

  Oh yeah.

• 2:54:26Joe Rogan?

  For a year, hoofing it, carrying shit out into the woods, riding on four by fours in these fucking dirt tracks. Where grizzly bears are. Cause she couldn't get a ACL fixed and then when they got it and they fixed it, they did a shitty job. Like it wasn't, it didn't, she can't fully extend her knee. She can't fully lock it out and she's had it broken down. She went under, well, they, they tried to break it down through like horrible manipulation that you wouldn't be able to tolerate. So they put you out and still.

• 2:54:55Speaker 02

  Socialized medicine is not the answer.

• 2:54:57Joe Rogan?

  Listen, incentivize medicine is good because it incentivizes doctors to be bad motherfuckers. Like if, if I wanna get a knee operation, I want that dude who fixes the Lakers. I want that guy who drives a Mercedes who lives in Beverly Hills.

• 2:55:10Speaker 02

  He's the best.

• 2:55:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, dog. When you got your, your Achilles fixed.

• 2:55:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:55:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you don't want socialized medicine.

• 2:55:16Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:55:17Joe Rogan?

  You want the Mac Daddy, you want a motherfucker with a Rolex on.

• 2:55:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:55:21Joe Rogan?

  You want that guy who makes plenty of money and likes the fact that he's the best at what he does. He's gonna fix Aaron Rodgers.

• 2:55:27Speaker 02

  Innovates.

• 2:55:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:55:29Speaker 02

  Tries things.

• 2:55:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:55:31Speaker 02

  And studies his craft.

• 2:55:32Joe Rogan?

  Want all those doctors that take care of pro athletes.

• 2:55:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:55:35Joe Rogan?

  You don't want socialized medicine if shit goes sideways. You want bad motherfuckers. If you, if you have a, some sort of a neurological disorder, you want that guy who's this groundbreaking research scientist and a doctor who's putting all this stuff together to try to figure out, we gotta be able to fix Parkinson's. And we're close, we're real close, like they're that close. You want that guy. You want a guy who's incentivized. You want someone who knows if they come up with a drug that's gonna cure a disease, it's gonna make millions and millions of dollars.

• 2:56:03Speaker 02

  But you know what happens, and I've figured it out during the last year when I've,

• 2:56:08Speaker 02

  you know, been in the weeds with these people who are close to me that have cancer is that innovation is frowned upon. And alternative ways of dealing with cancer frowned upon. And people who are doing it are getting fucking raided. And, and lawsuits and shut down. You gotta be real, real quiet. If you, if you're helping people on the down low, because that's one of their money makers.

• 2:56:31Joe Rogan?

  I know a well-established doctor in Texas, a rock-solid credentials, like handles a lot of like very high-level people, like a concierge practice. It got almost shut down because they were prescribing ivermectin during COVID. Like had to fight it in court. It was a battle.

• 2:56:52Speaker 02

  That's what happens when you actually heal people, you become a pariah.

• 2:56:55Joe Rogan?

  No problems at any other point in the career. Zero problems. And all of a sudden, this one thing, and you're on the verge of getting shut down for being a kook. You're taking care of billionaires, billionaires.

• 2:57:10Speaker 02

  When I called you during COVID and, after you got in COVID and kind of wrote down your protocol and stuff.

• 2:57:16Joe Rogan?

  I put my stethoscope on when I got on the phone with you.

• 2:57:18Speaker 02

  Appreciate that, Dr. Rogan.

• 2:57:19Joe Rogan?

  I put my fucking O'Flab coat on.

• 2:57:23Speaker 02

  When I looked for, for pharmacies that would prescribe.

• 2:57:28Speaker 02

  Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. It was one pharmacy in Wisconsin that was crazy on the down low. Because

• 2:57:39Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:57:40Speaker 02

  It was like you were gonna get fucking shut down.

• 2:57:42Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 2:57:43Speaker 02

  And and raided. And lucky enough, I had the right connections, got the stuff, and in forty eight hours, I was fucking perfect. You know?

• 2:57:53Joe Rogan?

  Science denier.

• 2:57:54Speaker 02

  And they hated it.

• 2:57:55Joe Rogan?

  You're a science denier.

• 2:57:56Speaker 02

  I am.

• 2:57:57Joe Rogan?

  I know people were telling, like, when people found out I was friends with you, like, you're friends with him? God, he believes in crazy things. I go, what does he believe that's crazy? Nothing. They got nothing. No one's got nothing. They all

• 2:58:07Speaker 02

  They were told. They were told he's a fucking crazy kook. Really? Why?

• 2:58:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:58:11Speaker 02

  Well, you know, the COVID thing.

• 2:58:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:58:14Speaker 02

  Right?

• 2:58:14Joe Rogan?

  Like, yeah, like me? You mean the same thing? Well, no, no, you you took a bunch of, you took the monoclonal antibodies as well, like, because they were available.

• 2:58:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, so did I.

• 2:58:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah. They were, they worked.

• 2:58:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was given them by somebody who said, I would lose my medical license if they knew this, so don't tell anybody.

• 2:58:29Joe Rogan?

  And by the way, they got unavailable real quick.

• 2:58:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:58:32Joe Rogan?

  Because people realize, like, you don't have to get the vaccine, you get the monoclonal antibodies, you just get cured, and you get all the natural benefits of a natural infection, which are seven times better. The whole thing was so weird to go through.

• 2:58:45Speaker 02

  But why are you still talking about it, Joe?

• 2:58:47Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 2:58:47Speaker 02

  Why do you still care? Well, maybe because nobody fucking apologized. Everybody just wants to change fucking history.

• 2:58:53Joe Rogan?

  What's important is not that we keep bitching about what happened to us during COVID, because I think we definitely have talked about that too much. But that people recognize that this is a pattern that exists in every aspect of the narrative that you're being fed on television, about all the foreign wars, about the banking system, about everything, everything you can imagine. Every bill that gets passed that has a bunch of crazy stuff inside of it, the open borders. Why were they allowing people to just come in? Why were they paying people, giving them money? And why were they moving them to swing states? Everything you've been told about, everything is bullshit.

• 2:59:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:59:34Joe Rogan?

  Everything, everything in the news is bullshit. If you really want to find out the actual information, you have to bypass all of the commentary on all the mainstream television shows. It's all nonsense. And you have to listen to people like Glenn Greenwald. You have to find the Matt Taibis.

• 2:59:52Speaker 02

  Love Glenn.

• 2:59:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you have to find the Michael Schellenbergers. You have to find the people out there that are just talking to you about the actual information from a completely nonpartisan, unbiased perspective.

• 3:00:05Speaker 02

  I mean, I've said this before, but think about where we would be if Elon hadn't bought Twitter.

• 3:00:09Joe Rogan?

  We'd be fucked. We'd be fucked, yeah. We'd all be really fucked. And I don't think people realize that because Kanye's got a Heil Hitler song on there right now.

• 3:00:20Joe Rogan?

  People are mad that I said I was catchy. Listen, I don't support it. I don't think it's a good thing to do. You tell me that it's not a catchy riff is like, you're crazy. It's a terrible thing to say, absolutely. It's like, but I firmly believe that you should let people say terrible things. And then people should decide with, in the marketplace of ideas, both with their willingness to go see him live and support him, and with the rightful criticism that you're gonna get from everybody who hears it and has something to say about it. And I think all that is how you figure out what you should and shouldn't say as a human.

• 3:01:01Joe Rogan?

  You know, I think you should never say some of the things he said about Jews, because you're talking about everybody. You're talking about all these different human beings, and to say that they're all the same is crazy. We don't want that with Asian people. We don't want that with white people. We don't want that with black people. We don't want that with anything. Whenever you're just like, "All these people," when you say it's this. But you also should be allowed to criticize if members of a certain community have taken over your business. And if you criticize them, you will get de-banked. And if you criticize them, you, I don't care if it's Jews, or Democrats, or Republicans.

• 3:01:43Joe Rogan?

  If Republicans are doing that, you start criticizing Republicans, you get de-banked. You should be able to talk about anything. You shouldn't be excluded from talking about things just because these people are of a particular class, or a particular religious persuasion, or a particular nationality. You should be able to talk and criticize everything. And, you know, from talking to Marc Andreessen and learning about de-banking, that's where it got so dark because it was just people that were right-wing, that were involved in a lot of these startups and a lot of these things, and he saw them get de-banked, just for supporting political candidates, becoming a public person that's a problem. And they got de-banked.

• 3:02:27Joe Rogan?

  Like, "You can't bank here anymore. We don't like how you think about things." That's crazy. And that incentivizes people to shut the fuck up, keep their mouth shut, maybe even support political candidates you don't believe in. Like, it's, that's like mafia.

• 3:02:42Speaker 02

  It's a modified social credit.

• 3:02:43Joe Rogan?

  It is. It's scary, man. When we allow shit like that, that's fucking scary. But it should be scary. You want some of that, dog? Get in there, my man. It should be the same for Republicans as it is for Democrats. We should be terrified if the Republicans start doing shit like that. We should be terrified.

• 3:03:03Speaker 02

  That's why all corruption should be exposed, doesn't matter if it's right or left. If you got Republicans and Democrats on the Pelosi machine, fucking dominating the stock market, shut them all down. That's fucking illegal. That's corrupt.

• 3:03:16Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if you found out that people donated to Gavin Newsom, so you take away their bank account? You know how fucking crazy that would be? But you know how crazy that would be if the Republicans started doing that?

• 3:03:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:03:26Joe Rogan?

  No, you gotta have, you gotta take your money out of here, man. You gotta go to fucking, you know, the Bank of Croatia or some shit. You gotta go to some foreign country or something.

• 3:03:34Speaker 02

  I'd be against that 100%.

• 3:03:35Joe Rogan?

  100%.

• 3:03:36Speaker 02

  And that's, that's why we've gotten so idealistic with our politics. It's like, "Oh, only if it's the other side."

• 3:03:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:03:44Speaker 02

  It's like, what about corruption is corruption? What about fraud is fraud? What about doing shitty stuff, evil is evil?

• 3:03:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And because Elon is a part of the Doge, and they've successfully demonized Elon... You know, then anything that gets cut is like an affront to democracy. Anything that gets removed, despite the fact that things like the Department of Education, from the time that it was invented to today, where we were, before it was invented, we were number one in the world with education, or at least in the top two or three. What were we when they created the Department of Education? And what were we as of 2024?

• 3:04:22Speaker 02

  Down pretty far.

• 3:04:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we're not, we're not anywhere near number one anymore. So it's not an effective department. So if the department, and if giving the power to the states and allowing states to implement common sense strategies to increase children's scores and to give them the freedom to do that and to innovate, I think is a good thing. I think it's the competition of the marketplace of ideas. And if you find out that this place has a legitimately excellent school system, you're gonna wanna go to that place. Yeah, and that's gonna encourage commerce. That's gonna encourage the, the growth of businesses. Like this is, these are all good things.

• 3:04:59Speaker 02

  It turns it back into a meritocracy.

• 3:05:01Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 3:05:02Speaker 02

  Which is what we need.

• 3:05:03Joe Rogan?

  Yes. But we also have to address as a community, as a country, and you know, this is something that never gets talked about enough. There's places that are fucked and they're not gonna unfuck themselves. And if you're talking about Baltimore, or South Side of Chicago, or any of these cities that have experienced the exact same environment for generation after generation of crime and poverty, that needs to be addressed. And that's the only way we fix the crime problem in this country. It has to be fixed from like a children level. We have to stop children from growing up in these horrendous environments, improve these environments, give them a fucking chance, and you have all these exceptional human beings that can come out of that.

• 3:05:46Speaker 02

  And that's what I don't agree with the right side.

• 3:05:48Joe Rogan?

  That's exactly what I don't agree with on the right.

• 3:05:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:05:51Joe Rogan?

  Like people that are against welfare or against social safety nets. I am for all that shit, but I'm also for guidance and mentorship and, and, and examples of how to live a life that's full of meaning and, and accomplishment. And anybody could do that. Anybody could do that. If you, if you can get an education, if you can get job, if you can get out there in the world, and if you have a fucking chance of not getting indoctrinated into a fucking gang and you're not forced to sell drugs, you don't get murdered when you're 15. That's what we have to stop. Cause this is like, we have untapped potential of human beings that are just being poisoned by an environment that's never gonna change. And if we don't look at it that way, you wanna make America great again? Have less losers.

• 3:06:34Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:06:35Joe Rogan?

  The way to have less losers is give more people opportunities. It doesn't mean take away opportunities from white people. That's a stupid way of approaching it.

• 3:06:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:06:42Joe Rogan?

  Like stopping white men, wow, we have too many straight white men. Like, that's crazy to say we have too many anything. Just give more opportunities to other people by boosting them up from the part that's fucked. The part that's fucked is the neighborhoods they grow up in.

• 3:06:56Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:06:56Joe Rogan?

  That needs to be addressed.

• 3:06:58Speaker 02

  And the right doesn't, doesn't wanna address it.

• 3:07:00Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 3:07:01Speaker 02

  But, but like Thomas Sowell said, it hasn't worked just electing all Democrat candidates. What have they actually done? How have they made it better in the last, since civil rights?

• 3:07:09Joe Rogan?

  Too many grifters. Too many people on the take. Too many people just using those, all those political platitudes and all of those beautiful ideas about, you know, equity.

• 3:07:21Speaker 02

  Act blues of the world.

• 3:07:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, all that shit, they're just lining their pockets, folks, and things aren't getting better.

• 3:07:26Speaker 02

  No, not at all.

• 3:07:27Joe Rogan?

  The, the, the solution is, the same solution that's everywhere, like, make it profitable. That can be done. Like, you, you, we got these no bid contracts that Halliburton got to fix Iraq after we blew the fucking shit out of it. And you can't have contracts for companies to profit off of going into these inner cities and providing mentorship and making more of a responsible police presence. And then maybe some places where people can detox safely medically.

• 3:07:59Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:07:59Joe Rogan?

  Maybe some education, maybe provide them with nutrition, give people job skills, figure out a way, like, and everyone's, it's not gonna work with everyone. You're gonna have a bunch of people that don't wanna do it, they don't wanna change, but there's gonna be a bunch of people that are looking for something. And you're gonna give them that something, and now you've got a winner. Now you've got someone who develops an education, they have good mentors around them, they got people that are showing them, there's other ways to live life. If there's a concerted effort to do that, you've got massive amounts of potential that's just fucked, fucked by their environment.

• 3:08:32Speaker 02

  Yep. I mean, if you just do it once, then you have a something to look to. There's your mentor.

• 3:08:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:08:38Speaker 02

  There's your, that's what I want to be when I grow up.

• 3:08:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:08:41Speaker 02

  I want to get out and do this.

• 3:08:43Joe Rogan?

  Which is the inherent problem with racism and the problem with all these videos that you see of black people doing wild things online. It's like, yeah, you're looking at that, but you're also not looking at the environment and these people are forced to exist in. And what would you be like if you were in that environment? You'd be the same way. We'd all be the same way.

• 3:09:01Speaker 02

  The constant gentrification of those areas isn't helping.

• 3:09:04Joe Rogan?

  It's not helping, just making them more concentrated and the haves and the have nots of the world have never been, it's never been like a further divide. And I'm real scared about AI and automation. Because I think everybody's pretty much universally in agreement, there's going to come a point in time where some sort of a universal basic income is required. And, you know, I think that's probably true and Andrew Yang talked about that a long time ago.

• 3:09:31Speaker 02

  It's not a bad thing, though, I don't think.

• 3:09:33Joe Rogan?

  But when you're totally dependent on the state.

• 3:09:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:09:36Joe Rogan?

  Totally dependent and you don't have any meaning anymore. Because like, what are you doing? You're just waiting for your check all day. There's going to be people that decide that's not enough for them and they're got, there's always going to be people that are go-getters. There's always going to be people in this world that want more and they have a drive for, they have an ambition, they have a drive for success. There's always going to be people like that. But there's a lot of people that could be like that, but they could get lured into complacency if they just get money every month and they don't wind up doing shit and they waste their life. And they never really, they never really developed character. They never really defined themselves by things that they didn't think they could do, but pulled off and realized that they can ask more of themselves and it's very satisfying to do that.

• 3:10:20Joe Rogan?

  They didn't learn those lessons that you clearly learned and that I learned and that a lot of people listening to this learned. You're gonna be dependent on this fucking and if the government turns tyrannical, which it got slippery during covid, man, got real slippery, got real slippery. And so now they know they can kind of pull that off. All they need is like to be more sophisticated about it. You can't get the same guy that you had during the AIDS crisis. Have a new guy and make sure that he knows that masks don't work because eventually they're gonna figure out masks don't work. We have them on video saying that masks work. You know, what is this six foot? How did you figure that out? Don't say that. Don't say that.

• 3:10:56Speaker 02

  This is random.

• 3:10:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You know, they'll be more sophisticated about it next time.

• 3:11:00Speaker 02

  Good luck.

• 3:11:01Joe Rogan?

  But we have to be careful. We have to be careful because they're always gonna want to do something like that. And that's just what they do. You know, you play football, I talk shit. That's what they do. They control people. And that's what

• 3:11:13Speaker 02

  And they're really, really good at it.

• 3:11:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And we're also, they do it under the guise that they are working for us, you know? Government by the people, for the people.

• 3:11:23Speaker 02

  Bullshit.

• 3:11:24Joe Rogan?

  But it's like that Osho line.

• 3:11:26Speaker 02

  Which one?

• 3:11:26Joe Rogan?

  But the people are retarded. Never see that?

• 3:11:28Speaker 02

  No.

• 3:11:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, let's close with that. Let's close with that.

• 3:11:31Speaker 03

  Speaking of that, I think this is a fake.

• 3:11:35Speaker 02

  What happened?

• 3:11:37Speaker 03

  I don't know that this is the original source, but I found this when looking for this information.

• 3:11:41Joe Rogan?

  It says in 1979, we were ranked number one in the world at the time. After 40 years of government run education, we have fallen to number 24. What is the real number, though?

• 3:11:49Speaker 03

  Well, I can't find anywhere that this is even accurate.

• 3:11:52Joe Rogan?

  He made it up?

• 3:11:53Speaker 03

  I went to this guy's Twitter account.

• 3:11:55Joe Rogan?

  Is he a real guy?

• 3:11:56Speaker 03

  That's not even his Twitter account.

• 3:11:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's a fake guy?

• 3:11:58Speaker 03

  It's a different person.

• 3:11:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, China got us. Fucking China got us.

• 3:12:01Speaker 03

  But then this information's been debunked a few places.

• 3:12:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Elon posted it.

• 3:12:06Speaker 03

  Well, Elon reposted a version of it. That's kind of what happened right here.

• 3:12:09Joe Rogan?

  Elon posted it. It's bullshit. Isn't that funny?

• 3:12:13Speaker 02

  Jimmy Carter.

• 3:12:14Joe Rogan?

  Not exactly great value for the money. How does he have the time to tweet so much? I just don't understand that. That blows me away.

• 3:12:20Speaker 02

  And play video games?

• 3:12:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it blows me away.

• 3:12:22Speaker 02

  He's an expert gamer?

• 3:12:23Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly.

• 3:12:24Speaker 02

  Or he pays people to game for him?

• 3:12:25Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly. Allegedly, people game for him. Which is fucking

• 3:12:28Speaker 02

  Here we go.

• 3:12:28Joe Rogan?

  Here we go.

• 3:12:40Speaker 06

  Government

• 3:12:44Speaker 06

  By the people

• 3:12:48Speaker 06

  Of the people

• 3:12:51Speaker 06

  For the people

• 3:12:55Speaker 06

  But the people are retarded.

• 3:13:02Joe Rogan?

  He nailed it.

• 3:13:03Speaker 02

  Randy, can you say that again?

• 3:13:04Joe Rogan?

  He nailed it. All right. I love you, brother. Thank you for being here, man. It was always, always fun to talk to you. All right. Goodbye, everybody.

• 3:13:25Joe Rogan?

  Now streaming on Paramount Plus. I'm Dexter Morgan. I've been killing killers for half my life. It gets to you. You're having a midlife crisis. I'm not ready for that. He's back. I'm older. I'm wiser.

• 3:13:40Joe Rogan?

  And sharper than ever. Things are gonna get messy. But if I can't believe in myself, I can't believe in anything. Dexter Resurrection. New season now streaming on the Paramount Plus Premium Plan.

• 3:13:55Speaker 00

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