#2309 - Joey Diaz

Joey Diaz is a standup comic, actor, and author. He's the host of "The Church of What's Happening Now," and the author of "Tremendous: The Life of a Comedy Savage." www.youtube.com/@JoeyDiaz www.joeydiaz.net 50% off your first box at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/rogan! Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at ziprecruiter.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:14Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 0:15Joe Rogan?

  Joey Diaz, ladies and gentlemen.

• 0:16Speaker 01

  What's up, beautiful?

• 0:17Joe Rogan?

  It's good to see you, my brother.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  Good to see you. That was great. The club was fucking rare form last night.

• 0:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, last night was packed. It's been packed all week. It's been really fun. Lot of fun shows, you know? Shane was there last night, or the night before last. You know, you're there tonight. It's been amazing.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  Holtzman is on fire. He's crazy.

• 0:37Joe Rogan?

  Holtzman's on fire. Last night he was on fire.

• 0:41Speaker 01

  He is fucking.

• 0:41Joe Rogan?

  Me and Adam Eget were howling. We were watching him from the balcony and howling. Such a good community, Joey. It's so nice out here.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  You know, I bumped into Duncan for breakfast.

• 0:51Joe Rogan?

  He's the best.

• 0:52Speaker 01

  Like, we just looked at each other. He's like, "What are you doing here?" And we sat down.

• 0:56Joe Rogan?

  Me and Duncan are gonna corner you and try to get you to move here.

• 0:58Speaker 01

  Nah, we're gonna, we're gonna figure that out.

• 1:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you got, you got, you belong here.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  Every time I come down here, I see something else that, like, I had a great time last night.

• 1:06Joe Rogan?

  Joe DeRosa's here now, too.

• 1:07Speaker 01

  That's what I heard.

• 1:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he just moved here.

• 1:09Speaker 01

  Is he gonna bring the sandwich shop down here?

• 1:10Joe Rogan?

  Yes, he is. We're gonna open up a sandwich shop out here. He is, brother.

• 1:13Speaker 01

  That's a good fucking idea.

• 1:14Joe Rogan?

  I say "we" because I'm gonna be eating.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, he makes good sandwiches, I heard.

• 1:18Joe Rogan?

  He makes a very good sandwich, very good sandwich, yeah. He brought a bunch of them. What did he do? Was it Moon Tower last year that he brought them? It might have been. It was Moon Tower or South by Southwest. One of the two last year. He brought, like, a ton of sandwiches. He had a pop-up. So, his restaurant did a pop-up somewhere in Austin. I was like, "Bro, you gotta open this up here. You'd be killing it." Especially if it's you, and people know it's your business.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  Because I've heard that somebody else was telling me about the sandwiches.

• 1:43Joe Rogan?

  Very legit.

• 1:44Speaker 01

  I gotta go up there.

• 1:45Joe Rogan?

  Very legit.

• 1:45Speaker 01

  I just don't even know where it is. I don't know if it's in Brooklyn.

• 1:48Joe Rogan?

  Bro, I wanna kidnap my man Giovanni in White Plains, bring him out here.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Bring him out here, yeah, he'll fuck it.

• 1:52Joe Rogan?

  He can't survive outside of Italian neighborhoods, though. That guy's the most Italian guy that's ever lived.

• 1:58Speaker 01

  And, you know, they get their stuff up there.

• 2:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they get everything. And it's all coming in right from Italy, you know, because a lot of it's imported. They use a lot of imported stuff, imported mortadella, imported, uh... The peppers, all that stuff that they have, you know, sun dried peppers, sun dried tomatoes, they import all that shit.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:15Joe Rogan?

  They gotta get that shit, you know, then it, because if it goes there, then it's gotta ship from the boat all the way to Texas. It's a little bit of a pain.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  But remember fucking Greasy Tony, he used to drive once a month to New Jersey?

• 2:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Greasy Tony.

• 2:27Speaker 01

  And get coke cuts and fucking chicken cutlets. Poor Greasy Tony.

• 2:32Joe Rogan?

  We used to visit him every time we went to Tempe. He was our guy.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Remember you said not to drink his Mountain Dew because he made themself, you up for two days? He used to make, that was the strongest Mountain fucking Dew you could ever taste in your life. You up for a day.

• 2:47Joe Rogan?

  Greasy Tony was such a character. He was such a character and he became our friend.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was a good dude.

• 2:53Joe Rogan?

  When we first started going there, we were visiting him for like ten fucking years, you know? Every time we would do shows in town, we'd go visit Greasy Tony.

• 3:01Speaker 01

  He had a twenty dollar chicken cutlet sandwich.

• 3:04Joe Rogan?

  Phenomenal.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  Fifteen years ago, which weighed, like, I was four hundred pounds and I would bring it home and try to finish it.

• 3:12Joe Rogan?

  Do you remember that steak sub that he would make? What is it called? Trash can?

• 3:16Speaker 01

  Yes, that's right, the trash can.

• 3:18Joe Rogan?

  The trash can. It was crazy. Peppers and onions and cheese and fucking, everything was in that thing. It was crazy.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  And you know what's real like?

• 3:28Joe Rogan?

  It was that thick.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  When I drove in yesterday, I'm like, this is how things change. I mean, we've been coming here since ninety five. I know I have, right?

• 3:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think ninety nine was the first time.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would do Houston and drive down here and do the lobby in the fucking, uh, Cap City when they had.

• 3:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, the little spot, yeah.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  I still remember that, driving from fucking Houston down here, not having any money, having to drive back because we couldn't get a hotel room. Drive back to Houston at the end of the night. And I was looking at this yesterday, like when I landed, it was four o'clock traffic. And I'm like, oh my God, this is how, we're, we're watching how past civilizations just changed.

• 4:06Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Something happened here and everybody moved here.

• 4:10Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  And I'm not talking about four or five people, everybody.

• 4:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  And that's how civilizations changed. We just witnessed it after the pandemic. It's been fucking surreal.

• 4:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it has been surreal, surreal, to see things change, yeah. Um, you know what, it's also. There's places that sort of rest on their laurels too much. And whenever that happens, it's easy for another place to rise up that offers something more interesting. So like, Los Angeles was always Los Angeles. And like, when Gavin Newsom talks about California. He's like, you know, I'm very big on California, very bullish on California. California has all this industry. Hey fucko, they're all thinking about moving. Thank god. The only reason why they don't move is because it's too difficult to move. If it was like, every business could instantly pull up roots

• 5:04Joe Rogan?

  and replace everything and have everything running in a week at the other place, they'd all be gone. They'd all be gone. They just, it's too expensive. It's too expensive to leave versus what you would save and the regulations that you wouldn't have to go through and all the bullshit with all the permits and all that. What California does is over-regulate everything. They get as much government involved as possible. They suck as much tax money out of you as possible. And then they still leave the place a mess. They still have homeless people everywhere. It's still a fucking disaster. It's still a woke shitshow of virtue signaling at every level of the government, still. Like, no course correction at all. They're going further and further into la-la land.

• 5:49Joe Rogan?

  And you're like, Jesus Christ, you guys. And so then a place like Austin becomes attractive. You know, because like, it's not like that here. And people are very reasonable. And Austin, the best thing about Austin is, it's a blue city in a red state. So it's like, balanced. Like, this is a saying they have out here, keep Austin weird and surrounded. So Austin's surrounded by rednecks with guns. And like, it keeps the tone more medium. Like, the Austin liberals, they're much more just left-of-center people, like we are. You know what I mean? Like, in some parts of the country, we're considered like, far-right. You and I, far-right.

• 6:33Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. It's fucking ridiculous. It's, but it's because everybody went nuts. And everyone demanded a whole series of things that you have to agree to in order to be a good person, like.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  Fuck off. You know what the real problem is out there? Let me tell you what the real problem, I didn't realize it till I fucking left. What? That everybody's too busy tapping themselves on the back. There's a lot of that. Every, when the fires happened, those three women or whatever the fuck. Yeah. The chief and whatever, I'm looking at them and I'm like, look at them. Y'all got gel in their hair. Y'all got a tattoo on their neck. God forbid, God forbid they can't be cool for just one fucking minute. God forbid. And tha- and that's the problem you have out there. It's too many people. I'm so great. This is my idea and it's great and it's gonna work. It's not working. You're, you're right. But you're too stupid to, I say, you know what? This ain't working. Their egos are so big, they don't have the heart to go, this ain't working.

• 7:30Joe Rogan?

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• 10:31Joe Rogan?

  It is their fault, but the culture rewards that kind of behavior. This is the problem with having protected classes of people, whether it's gay, lesbian, whatever it is, whether it's your nationality. If you have a protected class of people where you're not allowed to criticize the protected class of people, then they become, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy talked about this in a very interesting way. He was like, "It's the tyranny of the underprivileged," or is that what he called it? "The tyranny of the marginalized," or something along those lines. But the idea is that this group of people, whether they're trans people, gay people, they get, "Oh, above everything. Everything you do is amazing.

• 11:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God, you're so fabulous." Because no one wants to be thought of as homophobic or transphobic, so you pretend that everything they do is incredible. And so you're going to be the best firefighter ever. Like, can you carry a burning man out of a building? Girl, you don't have to. If he was in that building, he shouldn't have been in that building in the first place. If I have to carry him out, we got other problems. That literal firefighter said that in response to "Could she carry her husband out of the building?" Like, no, you can't, and so you shouldn't be a firefighter. Just like you shouldn't be a bouncer if you can't fight. You shouldn't be a firefighter. You shouldn't be a firefighter if you can't carry someone out of a building. If you can't run up a flight of stairs because you're 260 pounds and five foot seven and a woman. No. No, you shouldn't be a firefighter.

• 12:01Joe Rogan?

  You should have to be in like really good shape to be a... Now, if you're some fucking CrossFits game lady who's some beast, I'm like, yeah, that lady could be a firefighter. Yeah. But it's like, like even guys. Like if you're a guy and you're fucking scrawny and you never work out and all you do is smoke cigarettes, maybe you shouldn't be a firefighter. You know, maybe you can't, maybe you can't get up that fucking flight of stairs either. It should be like, it's a physical job where you're rescuing people. You have to be able to physically carry people, you have to rescue them. Firefighters, when I was a kid, were the fucking big brutal men. Beast, kicking down doors. Fucking houses, they looked like former football players. There was this guy I used to play pool with, Ray the Fireman. Because everybody in the pool hall, I was Joe the Comedian. Everybody had a nickname based on what he did.

• 12:46Joe Rogan?

  Ray the Fireman was a fucking house. He was just this big fucking, like, big Irish guy. You know, like, of course he's a fireman, look at him. That guy is gonna kick down a door, carry your fucking husband, throw him over his shoulder, run through the flames. Ah, throw him on the lawn, he does it all the time, he's an animal. Like Vito's lover in The Sopranos. Remember he was a fireman? Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that scene. Then he killed himself in real life. Oh, did he really? After that show, because they thought he was gay? I don't know. I hope it wasn't that, I hope they didn't taunt him for being gay. Imagine, you get your shot, hey Joey, I got good news and bad news. Good news is you're gonna be on The Sopranos. Bad news is you gotta fuck a guy.

• 13:32Joe Rogan?

  And you gotta swap spit with him. Yeah, swap spit on camera, yeah. But you're on The Sopranos. What are you gonna do? Depends on what you want to do. If you're a regular guy and that's your first acting gig, I suggest you pass. I suggest you pass. I couldn't swap spit with him. You have to be like a Jared Leto type dude to pull that off.

• 13:53Joe Rogan?

  Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, December 16th, 2008, at the age of 47. And he was a firefighter, a former firefighter.

• 14:02Joe Rogan?

  Who knows? I mean, when, when did he die, how long after the show?

• 14:09Joe Rogan?

  Go pull it back up again, cuz it just said.

• 14:14Joe Rogan?

  So he died in 2008, so the show was running in 2008.

• 14:21Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 14:21Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 14:22Joe Rogan?

  Was Sopranos still on in 2008?

• 14:23Speaker 01

  No.

• 14:24Joe Rogan?

  No, it was off by then?

• 14:25Speaker 01

  I think. No, 2009 maybe, I don't know.

• 14:29Joe Rogan?

  Let's find that out and then we'll have an answer. But, um, I would imagine if you're a guy, an Italian guy or whatever, and you go back to the neighborhood and you've been playing.

• 14:39Speaker 03

  It ended June 10th, 2007, so right after it ended, I guess.

• 14:42Joe Rogan?

  Right after it ended, he waxed himself.

• 14:47Joe Rogan?

  That's so unfortunate. There's another beautiful thing about the comedy community, like, nobody gives a fuck if you're gay. Nobody, like, Tim Dillon. Tim Dillon, just, he's just one of us. It's just, we're all, like, the lesbians that come there and hang out, they're just one of us. No one gives a flying fuck. It's just, if you're not funny, nobody wants to hang out with you. If you're not funny, like, get out of the green room, you know what I mean? But if you're funny, who cares? No one cares.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Do you remember the kid from Houston?

• 15:18Joe Rogan?

  Which one?

• 15:18Speaker 01

  The guy that used to always wear football shirts?

• 15:21Joe Rogan?

  Yes, where, did he die?

• 15:22Speaker 01

  He passed away. He passed, that was my brother.

• 15:25Joe Rogan?

  What was his name? God damn it, I loved him.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  I loved him.

• 15:29Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking escaping my mind.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  With the little hat on?

• 15:32Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna remember his name.

• 15:32Speaker 01

  And he'd come up to you and give you a hug all the time?

• 15:34Joe Rogan?

  I haven't seen him in so long, when did he die?

• 15:38Speaker 01

  I don't know, maybe 10 years ago.

• 15:39Joe Rogan?

  Did he talk about being gay on stage?

• 15:42Speaker 01

  No, but he told me he was gay all the time.

• 15:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, well, he was gay as fuck.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  He would go to those army things just to fuck men.

• 15:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, he just looked like a football player.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:50Joe Rogan?

  Like a big, form, he looked like a Shane Gillis type dude.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:52Joe Rogan?

  Like a big former football player, but he was gay.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  He was gay.

• 15:55Joe Rogan?

  He always wore football jerseys.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  Always football jerseys, that's how he tricked them.

• 15:59Joe Rogan?

  Sweetheart of a guy, but again, same situation, Joey, that guy was one of us, he just hung out with us.

• 16:03Speaker 01

  No, I loved him to death.

• 16:04Joe Rogan?

  He just hung out with us.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  I loved that dude to death, it didn't even matter to me that he was, listen, that's never mattered to me. You gotta remember, I was a Judas Priest fan in high school. That dude was gay as hell, first time I saw him-

• 16:14Joe Rogan?

  Nobody knew, isn't that funny?

• 16:15Speaker 01

  I fucking knew in 79. Nobody comes out with a little hat with a whip. You know, I saw him at the Palladium, I'm like, that dude is gay.

• 16:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Did you ever read, you just have to try to read his book.

• 16:27Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 16:29Speaker 01

  Jimmy Florentine gave it to me. You have to try to read it.

• 16:31Joe Rogan?

  Is it crazy?

• 16:33Speaker 01

  I'll just tell you one story that there was a guy in Chicago, like a stylist that used to tell him he wanted dick. Always bust, you know, those people, those women, come on, Joe, come on, whatever, you know. And you're like, come on, it's never gonna happen. And he said, finally, he got pissed off one day. And he took the guy up in his office. He goes, I fucked him so hard, I blew out of his O-ring. Guy had to go to the hospital. I'm reading this, calling, this is my type of fucking guy. I love this fucking guy.

• 16:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, you gotta think what Rob Halford did. When he was the head of Judas Priest, he got all these straight guys to dress like they're in a gay biker gang. Because they wanted to be cool like Judas Priest. He changed the style of a kind of music. He really did.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  I loved him.

• 17:15Joe Rogan?

  How many straight guys dressed like gay bikers, not even knowing what they were doing? They just thought, you know, this is how you dress for this kind of music. But it was because of Rob Halford.

• 17:25Speaker 01

  Fucking Rob, and he's still out.

• 17:27Joe Rogan?

  You know, I had him on a show once. There he is, that bad motherfucker. You got another thing coming. I had a buddy of mine in high school who loved that song, and he used like a quote of it in his, uh, in his yearbook. And I always remember thinking, wow, that's a coolest quote. Like, if you think you're gonna sit around and let your chipmunk win my brain, listen, I ain't fooling, and you better think again. Out there is a fortune waiting to be had. You think I'll let it go? You're mad. You got another thing coming.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  Fucking great album, great shit.

• 17:59Joe Rogan?

  That kid never did anything, though.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 18:01Joe Rogan?

  He never left the town. He fell apart after high school.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  And here's the weirdest thing about Judas Priest.

• 18:06Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 18:07Speaker 01

  His writing. That's what I fucking died about. His writing. Cause he would write, and you're thinking he's writing about a woman.

• 18:15Joe Rogan?

  He's writing about assholes.

• 18:16Speaker 01

  He's writing about a man. And he has a song called Burning Up that is so. Fucking over the top. I know you feel the same. I know you feel the flame burning deep inside of you.

• 18:30Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Burning you up.

• 18:31Joe Rogan?

  It's called glomidia.

• 18:32Speaker 01

  Breaking you down, breaking you out in a cold sweat. But when you lose control of your very soul, your desire takes over. You'll feel the heat wave. You'll answer my way and suddenly you know that you're burning up.

• 18:49Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 18:50Speaker 01

  That is a bad mother. When I heard that, I'm like, aw.

• 18:53Joe Rogan?

  Let me hear that, Jamie. We'll have to edit this out of YouTube. For the folks at home, please seek it online. Here we go.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Listen to the way it starts.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  It's like a satellite.

• 19:12Joe Rogan?

  This is back before satellites, like before we had modems. Ooh.

• 19:17Speaker 01

  This is 1980. This is on a Hell Bent for Leather tour.

• 19:32Joe Rogan?

  You could let songs cook back then, you know, like "Time," Pink Floyd, "Time." Oh, baby.

• 19:43Joe Rogan?

  Guess what just got added to the Spotify playlist?

• 20:33Joe Rogan?

  There you go. Hot, hot gay love.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  So when I read those lyrics, I'm like, that's the most brilliant fucking thing.

• 20:45Joe Rogan?

  That's the darkest thing about gay people today is that some of them are in the closet. Other than homophobia, there's genuinely people that hate gays. But that's rare.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Nobody hates gays.

• 20:57Joe Rogan?

  No, there's people that hate gay people.

• 20:59Speaker 01

  I can't see you, you know, it's all around us. So if you're still hating, you got a fucking problem.

• 21:05Joe Rogan?

  There's guys that have been molested when they were young. They get angry at gay people. Not that it makes sense, I'm not justifying it, but I've met guys that had problems with gay people. They were like very scared around gay people, but it was because they got molested by a pedophile.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Right.

• 21:23Joe Rogan?

  That happened.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  Pedophile and being gay is two different fucking things.

• 21:25Joe Rogan?

  Big difference. So I'm just saying like there are people, and there's very religious people that don't like gay people. But most normal people don't give a fuck. Most normal people don't give a fuck. And they shouldn't. It's stupid. It's a dumb thing you think about. Like I don't, it's just like, if you're not having sex with me, what do I care? Like, who cares? This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. I've been asking dog owning friends what they feed their dogs, and most of them are surprised by the question. And I get it. For decades, kibble was the only option. But as humans have been eating healthier, companies like The Farmer's Dog started feeding dogs healthier too. Because when your dog eats freshly made, human grade food, owners notice a bunch of positive changes,

• 22:07Joe Rogan?

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• 22:52Speaker 01

  Now, the way I grew up, you know, the Cuban men's side of me was supposed to...

• 22:57Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  The pre-revolution Cubans, they like...

• 23:00Joe Rogan?

  Italians, too, Catholics.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  They won't go in a room if there's a gay man in the room. I always thought that was, "The fuck, you can't be in... I won't go in there." Why? Because you're a machismo type of dude? So that... But my mother was the one that goes, "No, they're fucking..." And then we had a gay guy in our neighborhood. I told you about this guy. He was... He worked at my mother. He was a designer in Broadway for some plays. He would design the outfits.

• 23:25Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 23:25Speaker 01

  But at night, he sold coke. He was like... This is like 1975, and he would come to the bar, and I knew he was gay. His name was Matín. And we called him Matín and Maricon because that's what that means in Spanish. Maricon means fag in Spanish. So that was his open name in the Cuban community. But one day, he came into my mother's bar, and there was two bookies. I was like a kid. I was playing that shuffleboard.

• 23:49Joe Rogan?

  Uh-huh.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  Remember when you play the sawdust and the sprinkler? I'm playing the shuffleboard, and he was right there. And the two bookies were in the corner, and the one guy goes, "Look who it is, Matín and Maricon." And this motherfucker pulled out a .32.

• 24:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  And he goes, "Listen, I'm gonna tell the both of yous that unless you suck my dick or I fuck you in the ass, you don't have the right to call me Martin the Fag." So say it again, I'm gonna shoot both of these and my mom is yelling at him. Martin, Martin, Coco's behind you. If they start shooting at each other, I'm right here. I look, I lift my head up, I'm like, oh, and Martin's like, and all of a sudden Martin left. So the next day, I guess he called my mother to apologize. And Martin, my mother made Martin come and apologize to me. And when he opened the door, and he was like, I'm very sorry about pulling out the gun. I go, fuck that, you're my new Charles Bronson. I gave him a fucking hug and he became my best friend after that. And I respected him because he was going through hate.

• 24:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, really.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  In the mid seventies, he would come back once a week with a black eye or busted lip. He went to a bar in the village. And there'd be guys waiting for him on the way out. And I always respected that dude. Like, always respected him for that.

• 24:53Joe Rogan?

  The problem with bullies and bigots and all, people that attack people like that is all this, is the same problem in all walks of society. It's weak men. It's almost always just weak men. Weak, stupid men that wanna find someone to pick on. Wanna find someone that's not bothering them at all and fuck with them because they're weak. That's all it is. That's all it is. It's all, but that's all it is. Like the woke people that scream at you and want you to do what they want. The people that wanna like spray paint swastikas on Teslas. It's the same thing. It's weak men. Mostly weak men, a bunch of crazy women. And they're all together in this big pile of suck that's connected to a political ideology.

• 25:33Joe Rogan?

  But most people, you know, you shouldn't care. And if you do care, you just weren't around. I, I was around gay people when I was really young, fortunately. I lived in San Francisco when I was seven years old. And we were in the middle of gayland. I mean, it was San Francisco in the seventies, dude. It was gay as fuck during the Vietnam War. In San Francisco. I remember I'd be walking down the street with my stepdad once and a guy whistled at him. I was like, oh shit, I'm kind of uncomfortable. Like, he didn't freak out. He's just like shook his head, shook his head like, what the fuck?

• 26:04Speaker 01

  When they whistle.

• 26:05Joe Rogan?

  With a little kid, he's walking with a seven-year-old. And this guy whistled him down. That guy didn't give a fuck about kids. He's not making any. He doesn't care. So, um, we had these next door neighbors who was gay, this gay couple and my aunt used to, uh, smoke weed with them and they'd get naked and play bongos. And she loved the fact that she could get naked with these guys, cause they didn't, they didn't try to fuck her. So they all just get naked together and s- smoke weed and play bongos. It was hilarious. They were really nice people. So like my experience with gay people was just like, they're everywhere. It's normal. So when I moved to Florida, I had a, a friend, my friend, uh, was Cuban. His name was Candy. His last name was Candido. We called him Candy.

• 26:45Joe Rogan?

  And, uh, Candy was with his dad and his dad throws the newspaper down on the fucking table. God damn it. And he's like, whoa, what's going on? It's like, these fucking fags are trying to marry each other. And I remember I was 11 years old and I was like, why do you care? Like, he was getting, he threw the newspaper at the table, cause of gay marriage. I'm like, why do you care? I'm like, what a fool. You're a grown ass man and you care about that? Like, who cares if they get married? Yeah, I know.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  He was Cuban.

• 27:12Joe Rogan?

  But he was mad, bro. A fucking fucking.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, oh yeah.

• 27:15Joe Rogan?

  They wanna try to get married. Cause, you know, they've been fucking with gays with marriage forever. It's so wrong, man. It's so wrong.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  There's nothing, listen, I see it and it doesn't bother me at all.

• 27:26Joe Rogan?

  It's just like everything else.

• 27:28Speaker 01

  Doesn't bother me at all.

• 27:29Joe Rogan?

  There's a certain percentage of society that are just born gay. And there's plenty of them to hang out with each other and they should be your friends. Yes, Scott.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  The, the football player.

• 27:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yes.

• 27:42Speaker 01

  Scott. That's his first name. Now we gotta work on his last name.

• 27:45Joe Rogan?

  God damn it.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  Scott.

• 27:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I need to call somebody. Otherwise this is, uh, do you got Matty Kirsch's number? We should call Matty Kirsch. He would know.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  No.

• 27:56Joe Rogan?

  That's gonna drive me nuts.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  Somebody from Houston would know. Cause I don't wanna call somebody online and have to describe him. And then people go, oh, you described Scott.

• 28:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, uh, what I was thinking you were saying was Jeff Scott. Jeff Scott from the Comedy Store is another example of a gay guy who was our brother.

• 28:10Speaker 01

  Brother.

• 28:10Joe Rogan?

  He was our brother.

• 28:11Speaker 01

  That guy.

• 28:11Joe Rogan?

  That's it. Scott Kennedy.

• 28:13Speaker 01

  Scott Kennedy. Look at him with his New Orleans shirt on.

• 28:16Joe Rogan?

  Scott Kennedy was awesome.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  Awesome.

• 28:18Joe Rogan?

  Sorry, I forgot his name, but he's not around to be embarrassed.

• 28:23Joe Rogan?

  How'd he die?

• 28:24Speaker 01

  I don't know, look at him with Craig Ferguson.

• 28:25Joe Rogan?

  He always had football jerseys on.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  Always.

• 28:28Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that guy did not look gay. Like, he looked like a big old football player. Like, you could see him in the backyard, you know, like, like smoking a whole hog with a bunch of boys drinking Bud Lights.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  But here's the problem, here's what I felt from Scott. Cause I met him in Houston, and then we connected in LA in like 2000. When he hugged me, I didn't feel threatened.

• 28:46Joe Rogan?

  No, not at all.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  When Jeff Scott hugged me.

• 28:48Joe Rogan?

  Never.

• 28:49Speaker 01

  I never felt threatened.

• 28:49Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  I, I have to, Eric Roach, when he hugs me, my kid at the Comedy Store, I hug him with all my fucking heart. And I don't even feel that type of shit. I never felt that.

• 29:00Joe Rogan?

  I've only felt that once ever from one comedian. And it was at the Montreal Comedy Festival, and he was drunk, and he wouldn't stop. He kept touching me, too. Kept touching me and telling me he wanted me to take me upstairs. Yeah, that was very unfortunate. Because he was just drunk, and I don't even think he thought I was gay. And I don't even think he thought I would do it. I think he was just trying to make me uncomfortable. You know? But he was definitely like last call for alcohol, like hitting on people, and he was hammered. But I was thinking, like, imagine being a girl and this is happening. Where you fear for your life, because I threatened him. I said, dude, I'm gonna stomp a fucking hole in your chest if you keep doing this. Leave me alone. And that was enough. But if you're a girl, you can't say that.

• 29:42Joe Rogan?

  If you're a girl, you gotta go, seriously, leave me alone, you gotta find authorities. You gotta go to the fucking, go to the front desk, go to the bar, like, the, the, the checkout people and say, can you guys call the police, please? This guy, I don't know, I don't wanna walk to my car, can someone walk me to my car? You gotta be worried about that, that sucks. But that's rare with guys. That's, that's, it happened to me once in 57 years. Where a guy uncomfortably hit on me and wouldn't stop. Well, one other time at the store. But that wasn't as, as blatant. It was just, he kept touching me, like, stop fucking touching me. You know, there's, there's gay guys that like push those limits.

• 30:23Joe Rogan?

  Like, if you were a girl and a guy kept putting his hand on your leg, you'd be like, hey, stop doing that. Like, why do you keep grabbing me? Why do you keep touching my body? Why do you keep touching my legs? Stop, that's fucking weird. You're crossing lines, and I don't know what other lines you're thinking about crossing. So let's stop this.

• 30:48Joe Rogan?

  But that's not most gay people. You know, I have these friends that I lived next to in California. They're gay and they're super Republican now. It's hilarious. I follow them on Facebook. They're fucking super Republican now. They're, they're all in against the Dems how they've ruined California. Cause these guys are, they're conservative gay couple. They're married. They got a kid. And they're just like, enough of this.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  The world is changing, brother.

• 31:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 31:16Speaker 01

  Well, that's a lot.

• 31:17Joe Rogan?

  That's a good thing that the world is changing. You know, because there's, do you know the guy who invented um the Turing test? You know what the Turing test is?

• 31:27Speaker 01

  No.

• 31:28Joe Rogan?

  His name's Alan Turing. And he's um, he was a scientist, he invented a test that they say AI has passed. And this test is where you can talk to a computer and not be able to tell that it's a computer. That it behaves like a human. It thinks like a human, it communicates like a human, where it's indiscernible. That's the Turing test. AI has recently passed the Turing test. Well, this guy, this, this, he was in England when this happened, right, Jamie? Where they, they forced him to take medication. He got arrested for being gay. In like the 1950s. And they forced him to take medication that made him sterile, made him impotent. So he couldn't have sex.

• 32:09Joe Rogan?

  Like they, they forced him to take like hormone blockers that they give to sex offenders. You know, chemical castration when they do that to sex offenders? And then he killed himself. The guy who invented the method of determining whether or not AI has become sentient gets murdered by dumb apes who don't like that he's gay. How crazy is that? I'm not fucking that story up, right?

• 32:36Joe Rogan?

  I'm pretty sure that's the story.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  Do they give you blockers to, to sexual offenders? When do they give you that?

• 32:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, they don't always do it, you know, but uh, it's called chemical castration. And by the way, it's the same chemicals, the same drugs that they use on kids when they give them hormone blockers. So when you talk to a, they're talking about a child getting puberty blockers? You know, oh, it's totally reversible. The fuck it is. The fuck it is. That's the same shit. It's chemical castration. It's not reversible. That child is never going to fully develop. If they get on hormone blockers, then when they're 18, they go, you know what? I think I actually am a man. Too late. Too late, because from thirteen to fifteen, you suppressed your testosterone.

• 33:20Joe Rogan?

  Okay, here it is. Turing was later convicted by the advice of his brother and his own solicitor, and he entered a plea of guilty. Uh, in the case Regina versus Turing and Murray was brought to trial on the thirty first of March nineteen fifty-two. Turing was convicted and given a choice between imprisonment and probation. His probation would be conditional on his agreement to undergo hormonal physical changes designed to reduce libido, known as chemical castration. He accepted the option of injections of what was then called Stilbostrol, um, now known as Di- Phil- Di- Phil Stilbostrol, or DES, a synthetic estrogen.

• 34:02Joe Rogan?

  His feminization of his body was continued for the course of one year. The treatment rendered Turing impotent and caused breast tissue to form. In a letter Turing wrote, "That no doubt I shall emerge from it all a different man, but quite who I've not found out." Murray was given a conditional just discharge, so Murray must have been the guy he was having sex with. That's so crazy, man. Arrested for being gay, nineteen fifty-four at his house. Uh, Turing's housekeeper found him dead. Post-mortem cell that evening determined that he had died from previous day at age forty-one with cyanide poisoning cited as the cause of death. He had an apple lay half eaten beside his bed, although apples not tested for cyanide, it was speculated

• 34:47Joe Rogan?

  this was the means in which Turing had consumed a fatal dose. So he fucking killed himself, because they chemically castrated him. You know, founder of computer science and crypto- cryptographer, whose work was key to breaking the wartime enigma codes.

• 35:05Joe Rogan?

  So this guy like helped the British crack codes. And what'd they do? They injected him with poison. So that his dick wouldn't work, so he couldn't fuck guys anymore, which is what he wanted. He was, imagine if they were, everyone was gay, everyone, and you were straight. And you're like, I don't want any dick, this is crazy. Like, guys keep trying to offer you a dick, like, no, no, no, no, is there anything else? And then you meet girls, like, oh, look, they're so soft and so pretty, that's what I like, I like girls. And like, no, you don't. No, you're gonna take this gay drug until you get that out of your system. Or we're gonna chemically castrate you. You can't be having sex with girls, like, but I, but they're so pretty. They're so lovely to be around, I'm so attracted to them. No.

• 35:50Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, only guys. That's crazy.

• 35:55Joe Rogan?

  That's how stupid, so, these people, especially like when you get to like serious fundamentalist rigid religions, which wanna throw them off roofs. There's parts of the Middle East, they throw them off the roof, they give the, round up all the gay guys. Phew, throw them off the roof.

• 36:12Joe Rogan?

  And everybody watches and cheers, yay.

• 36:16Joe Rogan?

  Crazy. Like I said, it's a different world out there, my friend. It is a different world out there, but it's the world out there that could be just like the world here. It could go this way here. Like, this is what people don't understand, just how Los Angeles fell apart. The United States could fall apart too. You know, like, look at Iran. We were looking at Iran the other day in photographs from the 1970s. Girls had miniskirts, they all looked really hot. The guys had no shirts on, with six packs, walking down the street, everyone's smiling. Looks like Europe. It looks like you're in Italy. And now, it's a religious run country. It's run by a dictatorship. Like, you criticize the government, they execute you. They executed an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling.

• 36:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the UFC even tried to get them to stop. They plead, they pleaded to try to get them to stop. They tried to get Trump to get them to, or was it about, during the Biden administration or the Trump administration? I don't remember, but they tried to get the president to somehow or another talk to Iran and not kill this guy.

• 37:15Joe Rogan?

  They killed him because he spoke against the government? Allegedly. But you don't even have to really have spoken against the government. That's what's so scary. You just have to be accused of speaking against the government. I mean, to this day and age, any, like a friend of mine's Twitter account got hacked and he got fished. They sent him an email. And he didn't, you know, he's not that sophisticated with that stuff. And so he got fished. And then I heard he got fished. So, um, I go to my, um, Twitter, just because I never checked my DMs. But I did it just because I knew he got fished. And I went into my DM and it was him asking me for my email address after he got fished. So I was like, this motherfucker, he's trying to get me now. So someone could easily get your account.

• 37:59Joe Rogan?

  And then, or use, you know, some sort of code cracker or figure out your code. Then start posting stuff for you against the government, especially if you're in Iran. Like they, they probably already have all your passcodes for everything over there. They've probably been like spying on everybody's computer from the jump. They probably just go to the database. What's Joey Diaz's Facebook password? Okay. Post a bunch of shit there about these government, the people in government should all be lined up and shot. They, they all suck dicks secretly. They're all eating babies. Just make them say something like that and then let's go round them up. And then if you don't have any due process, that's the kind of shit that dictators do. They just round you up.

• 38:42Joe Rogan?

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• 40:06Joe Rogan?

  Duncan scared the shit out of me we're talking about this the other day about Ukraine and Russia he's like you know there's people in Russia that are just in Russia because they tweeted against the government and you know what they do with those people they put them in prison and you know what happens when the war breaks out they give them the option like you could either be in jail forever or you can go fight in the war and so they go to the front line and they get killed by American weapons guys who were tweeting against Putin it's like you can use it to get rid of his political enemies crazy and this is all while you and I at the same time hanging out in Boston or hanging out in Austin rather eating barbecue you know like it could go that way here too just like it went that way in Iran it could go that way in the United States

• 40:50Joe Rogan?

  just like LA fell apart LA 20 years ago was amazing do you remember LA in 2005 we were having the time of our lives oh my god we were having the time of our lives the restaurants were great there was music playing everywhere it was fun there was a lot of great comedy we had a good group of guys we're all hanging out with LA was great yeah there was still some traffic but you know it was the weather was great people were generally pretty nice a lot nicer than they were on the East Coast it's not even the same place anymore and that can happen anywhere that can happen the United States if something terrible happens the United States new laws get passed new restrictions that can happen anywhere that's why I talk about it so much people like why do

• 41:34Joe Rogan?

  you obsess about it so much because you need to be paying attention because when it's too late when they've already got complete control of what you could say on social media and they got you locked down you're in trouble you're in trouble because so many other things are coming that they're aware of and the big one is automation

• 41:55Joe Rogan?

  Joey, when automation comes, and this is what Andrew Yang was kind of running on when he was running for president, and I had him in and it was a very interesting conversation because it was something that I hadn't considered, that all these jobs are gone. You know there's parts of the world, like there's ports in China now, where it's 100% controlled by robots? There's a few people that run around, do maintenance and stuff, but everything's screens, everything is super efficient. These robots pick up the packages, they make an inventory of everything's in there, everything gets logged into the computer, they veeep, put it into these trucks, veeep. And before you know it, they're gonna have electric trucks that drive themselves.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  That's where the strike happened in Jersey, all over with the Teamsters, with the Longshoremen.

• 42:39Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 42:40Speaker 01

  Because they know it, they don't have much left.

• 42:41Joe Rogan?

  They don't have much time left, they don't have much time left.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  It's fucking crazy how industry has just dwindled in this country.

• 42:48Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  You know, and Americans really don't see that. See, because everybody's fucking into traveling and being cool. The gift that I had from doing comedy was I really got to see the country.

• 42:59Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  I really got to see the ins and outs, and when I was a feature actor, I would ask questions. You know, like when you don't sit in a hotel all day and just go out and you go to a movie theater and you ask questions and people tell you, "Oh my god, that's a great restaurant, go there." You know, you look at cities like Cleveland. Okay, I don't know if a lot of people know this, 20 years ago, with all the jokes and shit, Cleveland had more Puerto Ricans than New York City.

• 43:23Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 43:24Speaker 01

  Because there was a fucking car plant there.

• 43:26Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 43:27Speaker 01

  And they were building cars there. You know, I remember being a fucking kid and going to Detroit for a basketball tournament or something stupid, and seeing that city, it was 1976, 77, that city was fucking booming.

• 43:39Joe Rogan?

  Detroit was one of the richest cities in the world.

• 43:40Speaker 01

  Booming, it was the murder capital at the time.

• 43:42Joe Rogan?

  Was it still, even back then?

• 43:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, because when I met my buddy in the 80s, it was, he was in Detroit, it was the murder capital. But 75, 76, that city was booming, brother. You know, Buffalo, New York, booming. Fisher-Price, all these other companies left.

• 43:57Joe Rogan?

  Mmm.

• 43:59Speaker 01

  You know, that's what I saw. Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

• 44:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Steel.

• 44:04Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  I went to Pittsburgh two years ago, half the shit was closed down, brother.

• 44:09Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 44:09Speaker 01

  You know, so.

• 44:10Joe Rogan?

  Youngstown, same thing, Youngstown.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  What, no, it wasn't, it was downtown Pittsburgh, like, just around that area.

• 44:16Joe Rogan?

  No, but Youngstown was like that too, right?

• 44:18Speaker 01

  Was it?

• 44:18Joe Rogan?

  Youngstown was a much better environment than it is now. I believe, Tony told me, Tony's from Youngstown.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  They have destroyed those parts of the country. Now, I don't know what happened in Nebraska. They could have had their own problems in Wyoming. I just know that little stretch, Buffalo, Cleveland, you know, fucking Cincinnati.

• 44:36Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  All those towns that were booming.

• 44:39Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  Have just disappeared.

• 44:40Joe Rogan?

  They got gutted. All the jobs went overseas.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  So if you're gonna bring this country back, it's gotta start with that. We gotta go back to that, that to make us stronger again. And, yeah, we're gonna have to fucking sweat it out for ten months. But you know what? Three years, ten years ago, I fucking was getting those holiday movies, and I said, I'm not doing them anymore. For a year, I didn't work as an actor. And finally, I got a high-scale movie, because I kept saying no.

• 45:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 45:04Speaker 01

  To the low movies. That's how you lift up a little bit. That's how you bump up, by just saying fucking no. We didn't wanna do this all of a sudden, and we need to do this. We need to get this country hopping again.

• 45:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, the problem is, they gave corporations an opportunity to make more money. At the sacrifice of all those jobs in America. And the problem with corporations is they're, they have an obligation to constantly make more money.

• 45:28Speaker 01

  And labor.

• 45:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but, no, but that's the way you make more money, is by having no labor.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  No labor.

• 45:33Joe Rogan?

  And not just that, no health insurance. This is, you know, the Ron, not Ron Paul. Um, what's his name? Ross Perot. Ross Perot, uh, talked about that. We were talking about it with Ron White the other day. That he was explaining that if you change these regulations and make it cheaper and easier for these people to go and make. He said, "You're gonna hear a giant sucking sound as all the businesses go south." And that's exactly what happened.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  That's exactly what happened.

• 45:58Joe Rogan?

  And he called that in the nineteen nineties.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  That was my boy.

• 46:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I voted for him.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  I love Ross Perot, always did, always. That's a real fucking American right there.

• 46:07Joe Rogan?

  He was. They threatened him, dude. They, they threatened his, his family. Like, he pulled out of the, he was gonna run again a second time, and he said he's not gonna do it because his family was under threat, and that he considered serious. Yeah, he was dangerous cuz he he could ruin the election like he Bush they thought was gonna win a second term. But Ross Pro came along and conservative people that didn't really wanna believe in their Republican Party anymore like this party's just as full shit as the left. They saw this Ross Pro guy and then went, oh, okay. He took a considerable amount of the vote and most of it would be against what Herbert Walker Bush would've got. And then Clinton came along and fucking wasn't even supposed to win that year bam, now he's in, let's go.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  Remember, they're paying for this with your money, I'm paying for this with my money.

• 46:54Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  That was his fucking classic shit.

• 46:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 46:57Speaker 01

  That was hysterical.

• 46:59Joe Rogan?

  Do you remember when he had that half hour show on TV where explained how the Federal Reserve works?

• 47:04Speaker 01

  I don't remember that.

• 47:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he took over, he bought a half hour of regular primetime TV to explain to people how you're getting fucked. He he's explaining all the scams that you're that that are being run on you that you don't know about and this is why I'm running for president. I'm like, whoa, look at this guy.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  That guy fucking did something that a lot of people don't know. One of his employees got kidnapped in Iran and he went in there and took him out and he hired like a like a Marlon Brando from Apocalypse Now to to train his employees.

• 47:39Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was a retired Colonel, some badass, yet none of them.

• 47:42Joe Rogan?

  So was his actual employees that went and got him out?

• 47:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's the story. He he trained, he made his employees. It's a four, we're we're a family.

• 47:51Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 47:52Speaker 01

  We're going on, and he made a promise to the people's families that he would have them back by Christmas and he had them back by Christmas.

• 47:57Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 47:58Speaker 01

  And and Kissinger kept giving him fucking a hard time, a bunch of people kept giving him a hard time. He did not give a fuck. He goes, I'm doing it. I gave those people my word. His word was word, dog. How much money was he worth?

• 48:11Joe Rogan?

  Billions. Yeah, he was a billionaire.

• 48:14Speaker 01

  Back then, in the in the nineties already?

• 48:16Joe Rogan?

  I believe so. How much money was Ross Pro worth?

• 48:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, which back then, so nineteen ninety billionaire, it's probably like, it's probably just double the billions, whatever it is. Probably something like that, or maybe triple the billions.

• 48:32Speaker 01

  Did he get oil money?

• 48:32Speaker 03

  At the time, ninety two, he was the thirteenth wealthiest man in America, net worth around four billion.

• 48:38Joe Rogan?

  So what is four billion from that time worth today? Let's guess, let's guess.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Eight billion.

• 48:44Joe Rogan?

  Eight?

• 48:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:46Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna say nine.

• 48:50Joe Rogan?

  I might be way off, though. I'm just, I'm completely guessing.

• 48:56Speaker 03

  Just under seven.

• 48:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. We're both wrong.

• 49:01Joe Rogan?

  So that's a lot of money, though. Still, it's almost double.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  Dog, what about the chief of police in my hometown? They shit on his desk.

• 49:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, why'd he do that?

• 49:09Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 49:14Joe Rogan?

  Was he proving a point? What was the, what was up with that?

• 49:16Speaker 01

  You know, man, I heard he's a good dude, but he's a prankster.

• 49:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  He's like a prankster type of dude. He sends fucking-

• 49:22Joe Rogan?

  So he's like Ari Shaffir?

• 49:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, he sends like, packages to your house, and he's one of those dudes, you know? And, uh, I don't know. That's, I guarantee he was like a joke and it just blew up, and now it's national. Now you got nowhere to go.

• 49:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god. Did you see what Ari did once? We shoved a note up his ass, then he shit it out on stage and read it?

• 49:48Joe Rogan?

  Look at your face!

• 49:52Speaker 01

  I don't want nobody to read a note out of their ass.

• 49:55Joe Rogan?

  I don't want you shitting in the room with me. What kind of parasites, bugs, and fucking-

• 50:00Speaker 01

  No, he's got hemorrhoids, he's got-

• 50:01Joe Rogan?

  All sorts of stuff is flying through the air. Every breath you breathe is Ari's shit gas flying around.

• 50:08Speaker 01

  He's a fucking nut. He is not-

• 50:10Joe Rogan?

  He's so crazy!

• 50:11Speaker 01

  He has not stopped at all. Like, it has not ended.

• 50:15Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  I'm going to his thing next week.

• 50:16Joe Rogan?

  He's never growing up.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  No, no, he's never grown up.

• 50:19Joe Rogan?

  It's not happening.

• 50:20Speaker 01

  But he's getting married, right? Or he got married or something like that?

• 50:23Joe Rogan?

  He's already married.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:24Joe Rogan?

  He's got a little celebration.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm gonna go to his party and shit. I don't even know when the fuck it is.

• 50:31Joe Rogan?

  It's gonna be a, a fucking carnival of psychopaths.

• 50:35Speaker 01

  Dog, I was telling you the other night, I got really fucking high. I got home and I couldn't sleep. And I started watching old fights. I even watched a Pupino Cuevas fight.

• 50:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  That dude was fast.

• 50:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was good.

• 50:47Speaker 01

  He was good, and I watched-

• 50:49Joe Rogan?

  You ever see him versus Tommy Hearns?

• 50:51Speaker 01

  No.

• 50:52Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find Pupino Cuevas versus Tommy Hearns.

• 50:55Speaker 01

  Well, I watched-

• 50:55Joe Rogan?

  I'm ninety percent sure that's who I'm talking about.

• 50:58Speaker 01

  Pupino Cuevas was, I think, a little thinner of a guy. I don't know.

• 51:01Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't he a forty-seven?

• 51:04Joe Rogan?

  Maybe I'm wrong. Thomas Hearns was a 47. Yes. He started his career at 47, went all the way up to light heavyweight. Yeah, Papino Quivers versus Tommy Hearns, one of the most memorable moments of the early days of Tommy Hearns is like when he was like at the peak of his powers. Tommy Hearns was nuking people, man. Just nuking people.

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• 52:36Joe Rogan?

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• 53:21Joe Rogan?

  Or get the premium visible plus pro plan and save $10 on your first month with promo code Rogan. Terms apply. See visible.com for plan, features and network management details. He had such a reach and such width for 45. He was such a physical freak. And he was big, but he had, I mean, long and skinny, but crazy power. Which like generally like thin guys don't have the same kind of power as like the muscular guys. But Tommy Hearns was kind of like Deontay Wilder. He was both thin and muscular at the same time. And so, you know, real skinny legs, man. But my God, the fucking torque that guy had in his punches.

• 54:04Joe Rogan?

  You gotta think of the leverage because his shoulders are so wide. So it was when he twists his hips and he's got those long arms coming away with all those fucking back muscles and the core engaged. Fucking blam. Hey blam, when was the last time there was a fight like this in Detroit? Well, Tommy's from Detroit. No, no, but I'm saying they don't even have fights like this in Detroit. They're so poor now. Was this, was this in Detroit? Yeah. Oh, wow. Well, that's Tommy's hometown, you know?

• 54:33Joe Rogan?

  He was hunting people. You ever seen him knock out Roberto Duran? Oh, I watched it. That's what I was watching. I watched, listen to the triple feature I watched. I watched Duran, Hagler. Hagler. Oh. Yeah. Back that up a sec. Back that up a sec. Look, he's measuring him with his left. Watch this. He's measuring him. And watch this. Boom. Holy shit. Oh, my goodness, son. Holy shit. My goodness. Oh, my goodness. That Tommy Hearns, that kind of power was crazy. Yeah, you better stop that fight. My goodness.

• 55:12Joe Rogan?

  Tommy Hearns was all, he was a one hitter quitter. I mean, he faceplant Roberto Duran. Bro, him and Hagler, oh, fucking war. What a crazy fight. Had to stop and roll it back, keep rolling it back. The crazy thing about that fight is they, they did not box at all. They went to war. They went to war. There was no boxing, slipping. There was no fainting. Marvin Hagler just said, fuck you and ran at him.

• 55:39Joe Rogan?

  He just ran at him and just fucking just started smashing.

• 55:44Speaker 01

  It was non-stop.

• 55:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  There was like a minute and a half. It was non-fucking-stop.

• 55:48Joe Rogan?

  Tommy broke his hand in the first round.

• 55:52Joe Rogan?

  So in the first round, when they first come out of the gate.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, the greatest round of boxing. Look at this shit. Yup.

• 55:58Joe Rogan?

  God, Hagler was good.

• 56:01Joe Rogan?

  He's another one who died right after the vaccine.

• 56:05Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Right away, right hook to the body. Just charging, charging forward, charging forward. Fuck this, fuck this boxing on the outside. I'm trying to get in there. Boom, to the body again.

• 56:18Joe Rogan?

  Boom, right hand. Boom, just going to fucking war, dude. Right here. I mean, high-profile, two world champions, completely throwing it all out the window. Just wailing on each other.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  Holy shit, Joe.

• 56:36Joe Rogan?

  Boom, left hand. Boom, boom.

• 56:41Joe Rogan?

  The thing about Hagler was, his discipline was fucking supreme, man. That never got, that guy never got out of shape. He always could break guys, break their will. Boom, boom, boom. So by this time, Tommy probably already has a broken hand. So he broken on Hagler's head somewhere in the first. So now he's throwing the jab. So I bet his hand's already broken. See? It's all left hands now.

• 57:06Joe Rogan?

  He threw that right hand, but he was weak, you know? He didn't, he didn't really hurt him with the right hand. He's like pulling it back as he's throwing it.

• 57:13Joe Rogan?

  See, he's just trying to touch him with that right hand. That, that left hand is all he's got left. His right hand is cooked.

• 57:23Joe Rogan?

  And Hearns has decided to start moving in boxing, which is not like his style.

• 57:30Joe Rogan?

  See, like even when he's landing that right hand, he's got no power behind it now.

• 57:37Joe Rogan?

  And Sugar Ray Leonard is talking shit in the commentary.

• 57:40Speaker 01

  Both fighters were on the balance.

• 57:49Joe Rogan?

  Hagler could take a shot too, better than anybody.

• 57:53Joe Rogan?

  He only has one knockdown accredited to him his entire career, but it wasn't a knockdown. He fought Ron Roldan and Ron, Juan Roldan like kinda cuffed him in the back of the neck and like pushed him forward. And Hagler fell forward and touched the ground and the referee mistakenly called it a knockdown. The only time he's ever been down. Took bombs from the greatest punchers in the division. Beat everybody except Sugar Ray and I think the only reason why he lost to Sugar Ray was, I think the fix was in that fight, son. I watched that fight many times. Many times. Yeah, there's something about it, something about it. And then Hagler leaves and goes to become a movie star in Italy?

• 58:32Joe Rogan?

  Come on. And his trainers are the Petronelli brothers in Brockton, Massachusetts? Come on. Shut the fuck up. You know how much money was on Hagler to win probably? You know, it probably was some sort of a deal like, look, the odds are very favorable in Hagler's direction and we can get a bet on Leonard. We can clean up here. We can get Marvin to just like, you know, don't put him away. Just touch him a little bit, touch him. He never has him hurt, never has him hurt in the whole fight. Just, he was so good. I just, he didn't seem right. It seemed like almost he was like sparring sometimes. Hard to say though. Sugar Ray was so good too.

• 59:12Joe Rogan?

  The guy could come back after all those years off. You know, he had one fight, got dropped, said he was retiring and then comes back and decides he's gonna fight Hagler and then he wins. And then Hagler's like, I'm done. I'm done. I'm gonna go to Italy and make terrible movies.

• 59:31Joe Rogan?

  You ever see those Marvin Hagler movies? No. Oh, you gotta see some clips. No. Joey, they're the dumbest movies of all time. Hagler punches people, they go flying through the air. No, I'm not watching that. I love Marvin Hagler too much. No, they're fun. Look, he was having a good time.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  I bet he was a huge star in Italy.

• 59:51Joe Rogan?

  But that's, that to me, it's like, everything seems fishy. And the fight seemed fishy to me, the decision seemed fishy to me. And then Hagler goes off and becomes a movie star, and I go, okay. In Italy? How does that happen? How do you get connected? How does that happen? Look how bad this movie is.

• 1:00:10Speaker 01

  Denise would call it.

• 1:00:11Joe Rogan?

  Look how bad this movie is.

• 1:00:13Speaker 05

  The power of commando. The world has to know what's happening here. It's the thrill-packed feature action fans are waiting for. I want those Indios. Marvelous Marvin Hagler returns from the original Indio. Indio 2: The Revolt. The jungle is shrinking. He's here to build the highway through jungle. It's eight by the mile. And greed is spreading. You had better start praying to your god that we finish the highway before the rainy season. Here, only one man is mean enough. I know many of us may die, but it is better to die than to live like slaves. Mad enough. Tell them the days of running and hiding are over. This is your land.

• 1:00:57Speaker 05

  When you need us, my friend, sometimes.

• 1:01:00Joe Rogan?

  It's hilarious.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  I, I see one Italian. There's not one fucking Italian. That guy, that guy.

• 1:01:07Joe Rogan?

  That guy with his mustache, that was Sergio. I gotta be in this movie. You get, you hit me with a left hand, come on. I got one scene. Hilarious.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  Wow, I didn't even know that shit.

• 1:01:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that guy was my hero when I was a kid.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  And they didn't even make him like a shaft or anything. They made him go into like the fucking, I can see we put him with kind of the black.

• 1:01:27Joe Rogan?

  Italian movies, it's an Italian movie. They made him in Italy. There's a lot of movies being made in Italy. That's why they call those spaghetti westerns, right? You know that.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  Did you ever hear of those stories? Like, how interesting that is?

• 1:01:40Joe Rogan?

  The Sergio Leone movies?

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  Well, I, I just saw something about it, maybe eight months ago, about, there's a thing in my, on Channel 11 in Jersey on a Saturday called I Am. And every week they have somebody else on and it's brilliant, Joe. I am Bruce Lee, I am this, I am that. Oh, cool. It's just brilliant. And they had, who were we just talking about? Marvin Hagler? No, they had an I am about somebody that, oh, Clint Eastwood. Clint Eastwood. And it was how he would go and shoot the movies and then they would send them to films and they'd have to do ADR in LA. Oh, really? Fucking interesting shit. I didn't know anything about this stuff. So why did he have to do ADR? So ADR, what does that stand for? ADR when you put your voice on. What does it stand for, though?

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  Automated Dialogue Replacement.

• 1:02:26Speaker 01

  Thank you, Audio Engineer. When he shot the movies, he was just talking. Right. So then when he'd get them, after they'd put them together, he would lay the American in them. Oh, I see. And now, you know, he would send them back and they would send them back and... So when he shot the movies, he wasn't even speaking? He had to speak over it? Over it or something, yeah. Wow. Cause it, wow, they probably had it dubbed in Italian. But you gotta remember, all the, that, listen, I'm a big fan of that era of movies. That's my era of movies, that, those, those people. And, dog, you know what I watched the other night? You haven't seen this movie in thirty fucking years, none of years. What, wow? When you put it on, you're gonna shit. What? One flew over the cuckoo's nest. I haven't seen that in forever. Dog, they got seven stars in that movie.

• 1:03:11Speaker 01

  Like you, Babbitt, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, Charlie Babbitt, Martini, fucking the guy from Jersey, what's his name? That was in Taxi, a little guy, he's still around? Oh, Danny DeVito's in that? DeVito was in that, dog. Really? Fucking the dude with the big head. Look at the fucking cast on it. Christopher Lloyd? Wow. Bro, look at the... Will Sampson? Ca- oh, that's the dude! That's our boy! Yeah. The outlaw Josie Wales, chief. These are my words of life. Yeah, that's chief. And also my words of death. How the fu- he made three movies. This, Outlaw Josie Wales, and fucking some other movie. He was in three of fucking brilliant movies, that dude. Yeah, that guy was in a lot of movies. Bro, this movie is fucking hilarious.

• 1:03:55Speaker 01

  That don't make a bit of sense to me.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  This will never happen again.

• 1:04:03Joe Rogan?

  That guy, by the way, is a normal guy in today's society.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  Who?

• 1:04:07Joe Rogan?

  Jack Nicholson.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:08Joe Rogan?

  Like, you couldn't ever get him into mental health. Be like, "This guy's fine, let him out."

• 1:04:14Joe Rogan?

  Like, there's more fucked up guys right now than that guy that are tending bar on Sixth Street right now.

• 1:04:21Speaker 01

  And this movie starts politically incorrectly. Like, they couldn't make this today like this.

• 1:04:25Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:04:26Speaker 01

  And I'm surprised they haven't tried to remake this movie.

• 1:04:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, the guy who made, uh, um, Home Alone said that he wanted to cut Trump

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  Trump from it.

• 1:04:39Joe Rogan?

  out of the scene, but he's worried that he'd get sent in prison if he did it.

• 1:04:44Speaker 01

  Because he keeps getting aggravated. People annoy him and...

• 1:04:47Joe Rogan?

  I think they cut it out of it in Canada. I think the Canadian version of, uh, is it Home Alone 2? Yeah, Home Alone 2.

• 1:04:54Speaker 01

  You know how many TV shows Trump did over the years? I've seen, I see him once a fucking month on something.

• 1:04:59Joe Rogan?

  They have to say that. They have to say that.

• 1:05:01Speaker 01

  No, I get it.

• 1:05:02Joe Rogan?

  It's part of their liberal identity. They have to be united.

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  But, like, I was telling you that the people that I grew up liking, and so do you, that's what I liked about them, that they had to go somewhere else to become stars. And when they came back to the United States, they were like, "We're fucking you in the ass now." That's Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  Steve McQueen, not as much. He just wanted to fuck everybody in the ass, you know? Steve McQueen was just like, "You're sucking my dick either way. I'm doing what I want," you know? They don't even have that. Like, when was the last time you... The worst thing we've had in Hollywood in 20 years is when Brad Pitt made the movie with Angelina Jolie and he never came back. Like, poor Jennifer Aniston was waiting with flowers and slippers. That motherfucker never came back.

• 1:05:51Joe Rogan?

  She's, uh, temptress.

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  The first one was when Steve McQueen...

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  Took that girl from the head of fucking.

• 1:05:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:06:00Speaker 01

  And then did a movie under his fucking nose. That, that is something that they will cancel you. They couldn't ca- they couldn't do nothing to him.

• 1:06:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was one of the rare movie stars back then.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  They couldn't do anything to him.

• 1:06:11Joe Rogan?

  When there's a, an actual movie star in nineteen seventy nine, like, there's not a lot of those people. You need them to sell tickets. People don't know new people. They're not online. You know, you gotta like, no, oh, it's a Steve McQueen movie and you go see it. But if, like, oh, who's the, who's the star of the movie? I never heard of the guy. Fuck this movie. Oh, look over here. There's a Clint Eastwood movie. Let's go to see that. Like, stars were everything back then. Everything. It's interesting because some great movies now don't have any stars in them. Like Mel Gibson, when he made Apocalypto. You don't know anybody in that movie.

• 1:06:44Speaker 01

  That's a great movie.

• 1:06:45Joe Rogan?

  It's a great movie.

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  Great movie.

• 1:06:46Joe Rogan?

  And you don't know anybody in that movie. It's perfect. It's perfect because you really believe the characters that way. I don't have to go, oh, it's Robert Downey Jr. Oh, he's doing a great job pretending to be that scientist. No, no, it's some guy that might actually be a scientist, you know?

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know. But no, they didn't do anything to Steve McQueen. Charles Bronson, same way. He was a prick on those movie sets. They wanted everything. They took everything, Joe. It just came up. We discussed it last time. They just, they just got released as Steve McQueen writers from his movies.

• 1:07:17Joe Rogan?

  The writers? Yeah, well, writers are different. For people that don't know, that means like, all the things that you get when you're on the set. Like, you can say, I want M and M's in my green room. Or, you know, Pink Floyd albums, whatever.

• 1:07:29Speaker 01

  Fucking insane. His, his was insane. His suits had to be a certain cut. They had to cost a certain way. Well, he ain't worried, Steve McQueen.

• 1:07:38Joe Rogan?

  Some comics have that kind of shit, where you have to have size eleven Jordans waiting for them backstage.

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  But you pay for it. Comics are like, yeah, I'm not going in there till I got my size twelve. You pay for it. What's the big deal? Well, yeah, they gave me some sneakers. No, you didn't. You bought those sneakers, stupid.

• 1:07:53Joe Rogan?

  Comes out of the price.

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, they think that, oh, they bought me sneakers because I'm special and shit.

• 1:07:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I think it's a thing where you want to be, you want to feel like you're being taken care of.

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, even though you're paying for it. Fuck that. I don't need, I'll bring my own sneakers.

• 1:08:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'll bring my own sneakers.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  I'm gonna show up and there's a box of sneakers. Oh, you got me white sneakers. I'm not gonna perform. Because that shit started happening.

• 1:08:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, people are like, I want black. Jordan, and also they're white. I ain't getting on stage, I get my black Jordan. Now they gotta run around town and.

• 1:08:20Joe Rogan?

  I've heard people turn limos back.

• 1:08:23Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:08:23Joe Rogan?

  Back in the day because it was the wrong color limo.

• 1:08:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:25Joe Rogan?

  I ordered a white limo. What is this bullshit?

• 1:08:28Speaker 01

  And who fucking drove you when you lived under that fucking bridge? Just get in the goddamn fucking car cocksucker.

• 1:08:34Joe Rogan?

  People love making demands, right? Like it has to be this way, or that's it, I walk. People love making demands.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  And that's what happens in that fucking town, Hollywood. And people go, okay, no, go fuck yourself. You want that, bring it yourself. And once you start doing that, that, listen. Well, I understood what you said before about Austin, and it makes sense to me now. It's like the day I took my daughter to school, and there was moms hugging trees in Studio City crying. If I was a redneck, I'd show up with a shotgun that day and just shoot it, and watch those moms just fly. That's where the guns keep the liberals in check. Okay, that's when you come in and go, you wanna hug trees? Boom! And fucking start shooting off cap. Dog, they were hugging tree. Right in front of the school my daughter and Burt went.

• 1:09:20Joe Rogan?

  Why were they hugging trees?

• 1:09:21Speaker 01

  Because they were gonna cut the trees down. We went to the school and the cops were there and women were hugging the trees.

• 1:09:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:09:28Speaker 01

  Holding each other's hands, crying. This is why I had to get the fuck out of there. Crying. And that's where a guy with a gun would have been perfect. A big fucking gun. You guys like trees so much. Boom! And those bitches would have been running to that fucking coffee shop crying, they didn't know what happened. Fuck those trees, Jack. That's what you need, a gun in California to tell these motherfuckers, shut the fuck up. You go on Facebook now and I see people I used to hang with in California, and they're talking about other people, everybody's so talented, and everything's so gracious, and to work with such a great bunch of talented individuals. Thank God they've let my creative juices work. Shut the fuck up.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  Shut the fuck up. What are you talking about? I need to smack you now or smack you later. It is, it's so much.

• 1:10:22Joe Rogan?

  Very pretentious.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  Very, and that's what I don't, I don't miss any, listen, at all. When I watch it in a movie now, I can't even stand small talk. Like, that's what, I didn't even know what small talk was. You know, it was like the night you did a show. This, I'm talking, I'm talking to you about fear, before Fear Factor.

• 1:10:42Speaker 01

  You did a show, maybe, at the Wiltern one night?

• 1:10:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  And we left a bunch of people there and they circled you? Like Ann Maney and a bunch of other people and they were talking to you about a deal or something?

• 1:10:53Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  And it was like, oh my god, your set was so great. And you're supposed to stand there like, thank you.

• 1:10:59Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:11:00Speaker 01

  I fucking hate that shit.

• 1:11:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they love kissing people's ass.

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  We loved it. Oh my god. Mimi and I loved it.

• 1:11:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:07Speaker 01

  Mimi. Victoria and I loved it.

• 1:11:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  Were so happy you invited us. And you have to sit there and go, come on, I'm not gonna fuck off.

• 1:11:14Joe Rogan?

  That was in the Deal days.

• 1:11:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:16Joe Rogan?

  I'd still be shopping around deals.

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, they'd come up to you and talk to you. You had to be like, fucking.

• 1:11:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:21Speaker 01

  Hi, yeah. So how was that? How did that feel?

• 1:11:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, you still, like, connected to the system and that was how I was making most of my money. So I'd make some money from stand-up, but I would make like a couple hundred thousand dollars on these deals.

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  On these deals.

• 1:11:34Joe Rogan?

  That would be my year's money. And then I'd be working with some fucking schlub, making a sitcom that sucked. It never went anywhere. I did that for a couple of years. So I did that from like ninety-nine to two thousand and one. And then Fear Factor started.

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  News Radio's on at eight o'clock.

• 1:11:54Joe Rogan?

  It's everywhere. My kids watch it.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  I watch it. I watch it. I watched my favorite episode, a couple of weeks ago, when he was playing the piano on the fucking, Phil Harmon was... He was playing the piano on the elevator and it kept opening up.

• 1:12:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:12:08Speaker 01

  Talk.

• 1:12:11Joe Rogan?

  That was a fun episode. That was a fun show. But that show ruined me for other sitcoms. Doing a sitcom after that show, like, why? What, it's not gonna be the same. It's gonna suck. You need the, it's like a very rare combination of people to put together a really good sitcom.

• 1:12:27Speaker 01

  That was a very good show. It was just... I know that you told me over the years that they kept moving you and they never found a home or something like that.

• 1:12:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it moved like nine times. The show really became popular after it was in syndication. That's when it became popular. It became popular when it was on, you know, seven PM on ABC or whatever the fuck it was, NBC affiliate. You know, when they were just showing the syndicated reruns. That's when it became popular. Way more popular after it was canceled than it was when it was on the air.

• 1:12:56Joe Rogan?

  One of the writers, Lou Morton, every day we'd come to the, to the table read, he would have a, a tee shirt, like a white tee shirt, and we'd write a number on it, and that number was our ratings. And one day he came in, it was like eighty-five. I was like, eighty-five? Really? It's like, we're like eighty-fifth. We're the eighty-fifth show.

• 1:13:15Speaker 01

  That's good.

• 1:13:16Joe Rogan?

  Terrible. Good is number one.

• 1:13:20Speaker 01

  Oh, no, no, I just didn't, I thought it was like a rating system.

• 1:13:22Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no. It's the ranked shows in the country. We were like eighty-five or eighty-eight, something like that. It was real bad. Real bad. We were like on the verge of being canceled.

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  I know you're watching some good shows now.

• 1:13:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  But I'm watching one show, and I'll tell you.

• 1:13:36Joe Rogan?

  What are you watching?

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  There's some people who are dangerous, and then there's Helen Mirren.

• 1:13:42Joe Rogan?

  What are you watching? Oh, the nineteen twenty-three show?

• 1:13:44Speaker 01

  Both of them.

• 1:13:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Mobland.

• 1:13:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. I heard Mobland's great.

• 1:13:49Speaker 01

  She's fucking great.

• 1:13:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I have not seen that yet.

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  The Italian mafia movies, they're done.

• 1:13:54Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're done. De Niro just put Alto Nights out. They took it out of the movie theater in two fucking weeks.

• 1:13:59Joe Rogan?

  He put what out?

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  He put a movie called Alto Nights out, where he plays two roles. He plays Frank Costello and somebody else, or Vito Genovese, I don't know exactly.

• 1:14:07Joe Rogan?

  Somebody should have taken De Niro's keys away when he wanted to go out and do political speeches.

• 1:14:12Speaker 01

  Well, no. I think that, listen, you're not gonna ban a movie because of his political beliefs.

• 1:14:18Joe Rogan?

  No, but people are gonna take him seriously because of his political beliefs.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  Well, the way he acted, he dropped some people, okay, and I get it, but to make two million dollars your first week?

• 1:14:29Joe Rogan?

  That's not good.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  And then like three million after that, and then they just yanked it. I tried to go, just to watch it.

• 1:14:35Joe Rogan?

  It's called Alto Nights?

• 1:14:36Speaker 01

  Cause I heard of it.

• 1:14:36Joe Rogan?

  Have you heard of it, Jamie?

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  Nobody. Came and went.

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• 1:15:10Joe Rogan?

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• 1:16:37Joe Rogan?

  instead of thinking you as this character. Let me hear a little of this. Anyway, this is the guy talking. Hey, come on.

• 1:16:50Speaker 05

  Where do I start?

• 1:16:54Speaker 05

  You're going down a very dangerous road. And we ain't been down dangerous roads before. But that's the risk you take. Me, I take that risk. But you're not where I am. I give to charities, I pay my taxes.

• 1:17:05Joe Rogan?

  It's actually looks good.

• 1:17:07Speaker 05

  I put you where you are today. It's because of me, Mr. Good Citizen. You want to be like them? Come on, you ain't like them. They own this country. They're bigger gangsters than we ever could be. All of a sudden you want to be half ten, half fat, half a racketeer? You can't have it both ways. You're either in...

• 1:17:32Speaker 05

  ...or you're out.

• 1:17:37Joe Rogan?

  That looks good.

• 1:17:39Speaker 01

  I'm telling you.

• 1:17:41Joe Rogan?

  That looks good. I'd watch that.

• 1:17:43Speaker 01

  The movie is not bad.

• 1:17:44Joe Rogan?

  I'm telling you, it's because De Niro talks too much.

• 1:17:47Speaker 01

  I think that we're not, we're so out of going to the movies every Friday and every, like he said, nobody knew it came out. I didn't even know it came out.

• 1:17:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, Covid killed the movie theaters.

• 1:17:56Speaker 01

  Oh, it's, it's a shame.

• 1:17:58Joe Rogan?

  Because they made movies way quicker out on streaming now. All I have to do is wait a month. I can wait a month. One month later, I can watch it at home. I don't have to like, see somebody like texting people right in front of me with their fucking phone blinding white. People talking, what did he say? What did he say? Do you want any popcorn?

• 1:18:16Speaker 01

  The movie theater I go to, there's never a show there.

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  Not a show. I've never seen anything like that.

• 1:18:22Joe Rogan?

  It's so annoying.

• 1:18:23Speaker 01

  I usually go to the last screening on Thursday night. Not a show.

• 1:18:28Joe Rogan?

  I mean, most movie theaters, people are polite.

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  No, very nice. Where I go, very, I can't believe it.

• 1:18:32Joe Rogan?

  But it's that risk, that risk of one douchebag who fucks it up for everybody.

• 1:18:38Speaker 01

  I don't, I won't go see a popular movie. I'm not a top raider like that. I like to go and see, I see a movie, I go, you know what, I want to go watch that. Some movies I can watch at home that I want to watch in the fucking thing. Anything with 3D, like Wicked or whatever, I go. I take my mushrooms, I take my daughter. I sit there, she enjoys it, and I fucking have a great time.

• 1:18:57Joe Rogan?

  Wicked was great.

• 1:18:58Speaker 01

  Wicked was great. The only thing was, don't go on mushrooms.

• 1:19:02Joe Rogan?

  No?

• 1:19:03Speaker 01

  I was so fucked up. The chick is black and green. I couldn't deal with that right off the bat. Where's the black people? Raise your hand. What the fuck? I'm feeling like a racist in here. She can't be black and she can't be green. Then Ariana with no eyebrows, that killed me. She had like those blind eyebrows. I'm on fucking mushrooms and this movie won't end.

• 1:19:22Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:19:22Speaker 01

  It won't end.

• 1:19:23Joe Rogan?

  It's a long movie.

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  It's a fucking long movie. But I'm looking at her and she's having such a great time. When you look at your kids and they're having such a great time, you're like, I don't give a fuck.

• 1:19:32Joe Rogan?

  I enjoyed it.

• 1:19:32Speaker 01

  I fucking.

• 1:19:33Joe Rogan?

  I enjoyed the Barbie movie. How about that?

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  I never saw it.

• 1:19:36Joe Rogan?

  I enjoyed it. I went, I went with my kids, they had a good time. I thought it was funny. Everybody was like complaining, it's a, you know, it's political, it's against the patriarchy. Like, listen, here's my position. A movie's allowed to be political. Like, if you make a good movie and it happens to have a political slant to it, I don't care. Is it a good movie? I don't care. I don't care. Like, I did, it's not gonna change my opinion in a movie. Like, you, this is your opinion, this is how you're gonna do it. Like, okay. So this movie is like a pro feminism movie, people were saying, they were complaining. I'm like, what do you, it's a Barbie doll.

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  Can we just make a movie and nobody raise their fucking hand and politicize, that's all it is.

• 1:20:13Joe Rogan?

  But the thing is, everybody has to, because they have to have a hot take on everything. Everybody has to have a hot take. There's a market out there, people, where all they do is look for something to point out that's a disaster, or a failure, or here's my hot take, and why this sucks, and... That's what they do. All they do is like, find things that suck. And they very rarely talk about things that are awesome.

• 1:20:36Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:20:36Joe Rogan?

  Which is crazy, cuz there's so much awesome shit out there right now.

• 1:20:40Speaker 01

  I hate all that shit.

• 1:20:41Joe Rogan?

  You know what's great? On, uh, Apple Plus, Slow Horses.

• 1:20:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:20:47Joe Rogan?

  You, have you heard of it? You know what it is?

• 1:20:49Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:20:50Joe Rogan?

  It's, uh, it's Gary Oldman.

• 1:20:53Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, my wife watches that.

• 1:20:54Joe Rogan?

  It's a British spy drama.

• 1:20:56Speaker 01

  It's fucking tremendous.

• 1:20:56Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking great.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  Tremendous.

• 1:20:58Joe Rogan?

  Really good show.

• 1:20:59Speaker 01

  Uh, I've been watching the one with Jon Hamm.

• 1:21:03Joe Rogan?

  Which one?

• 1:21:04Speaker 01

  He's, has a show, Jon Hamm, where he becomes a thief in a rich neighborhood, like...

• 1:21:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 1:21:08Speaker 01

  He loses his job.

• 1:21:09Joe Rogan?

  Bro, there's too many shows.

• 1:21:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's too many fucking shows.

• 1:21:11Joe Rogan?

  There's too many shows. You just can't, you can't watch them all. You wanna watch a show that you shouldn't be on mushrooms? Severance.

• 1:21:19Speaker 01

  I heard that's very well, good anyway.

• 1:21:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a very good show. Don't watch that on mushrooms, though, you'll get fucked up.

• 1:21:23Speaker 01

  I watched that movie with Demi Moore, where they...

• 1:21:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I heard about that. I didn't see it. Is that a show or a movie? It's a movie?

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  That is the weirdest fucking movie I've seen in years.

• 1:21:32Joe Rogan?

  It's a movie where like, she gets young again, and goes back and forth, old and young. Yeah.

• 1:21:38Speaker 01

  It was a little too deep.

• 1:21:39Joe Rogan?

  Substance? Did you, did you see it, Jamie?

• 1:21:42Speaker 03

  No, I was gonna see it. I wanna watch, it's like a Black Mirror type movie. And that just came back out too. Black Mirror did.

• 1:21:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I heard the new ones are great.

• 1:21:49Speaker 01

  Do you watch Eighteen Twenty Three at all?

• 1:21:51Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  You liked it? You enjoyed it?

• 1:21:53Joe Rogan?

  Love it.

• 1:21:53Speaker 01

  I enjoyed all of them.

• 1:21:54Joe Rogan?

  Love it. Yeah, I love them all.

• 1:21:55Speaker 01

  I enjoyed all of them.

• 1:21:56Joe Rogan?

  Land Man's good too. Seen Land Man? That's very good.

• 1:21:59Speaker 01

  Funny.

• 1:22:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  That fucking girl.

• 1:22:01Joe Rogan?

  Billy Bob's the man. I love anything he's in.

• 1:22:03Speaker 01

  They're shooting already.

• 1:22:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:05Speaker 01

  Right? They're down there shooting.

• 1:22:06Joe Rogan?

  I believe so.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz they were looking for vehicles or something, I saw last week.

• 1:22:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, Taylor likes to do everything down here, when he can, you know? He's got that giant ranch out here, Taylor Sheridan. He's got the four sixes, he's got that ranch. And, um, you know, I mean, that guy can't lose. Everything he touches is gold. You ever met him?

• 1:22:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:22:26Joe Rogan?

  Fucking great guy.

• 1:22:27Speaker 01

  No, I have mutual friends that tell me you should meet him.

• 1:22:29Joe Rogan?

  I had dinner with him and Bert in Vegas recently. All our wives together, um, after the fights, after the UFC fights. And a bunch of my pool player friends came by and Goggins. Goggins was there with his wife, too. Great time. Fucking great dinner. So much fun. We're all laughing, having fun. Good fucking time, but Taylor Sheridan's great. Just the guy can't lose. And, you know, he made Sicario, bro. You know? Go watch that.

• 1:22:57Speaker 01

  I've watched it. I love it.

• 1:22:58Joe Rogan?

  Watch that again.

• 1:22:58Speaker 01

  The first and the second one.

• 1:23:00Joe Rogan?

  Sicario is a fucking banger of a movie. It was on TV the other day. I was like, that's right. This movie's, that's a banger of a movie.

• 1:23:08Speaker 01

  You know, it's a shame that, I don't know, maybe before the pandemic had started with like really bad movies. It's just a shame, you know? It really is a shame that we gotta wait for shows this long. Like fucking.

• 1:23:21Joe Rogan?

  There's so much to watch, though.

• 1:23:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Addams Family never came back with Jenna Garcia.

• 1:23:26Joe Rogan?

  Was it supposed to come back?

• 1:23:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:29Speaker 01

  Netflix never, and I worked with one of the dudes and he goes, yeah, we already shot it. It's still fucking been like three years.

• 1:23:35Joe Rogan?

  Why are they holding on to it?

• 1:23:36Speaker 01

  My kid's gonna fucking not even remember. Well, she didn't even remember it anyway.

• 1:23:39Joe Rogan?

  Are they doing anything with it?

• 1:23:41Speaker 01

  I don't, I never heard anything again.

• 1:23:43Joe Rogan?

  Huh. Why would they do that? That doesn't make any sense.

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  Netflix is off the, you know, they don't know. They, they just, Netflix has so much fucking shit on there.

• 1:23:52Joe Rogan?

  They have so much.

• 1:23:53Speaker 01

  So much. If I see one more Pablo Escobar thing.

• 1:23:58Speaker 01

  They got, if you watch like a murder thing one time, forget it.

• 1:24:01Joe Rogan?

  They're talking about doing the UFC on Netflix.

• 1:24:03Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:24:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Apparently, uh, I think the UFC's, uh, negotiation period with ESPN.

• 1:24:13Speaker 01

  Ended.

• 1:24:13Joe Rogan?

  Ended.

• 1:24:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:15Joe Rogan?

  So what that means is they could talk to other people?

• 1:24:17Speaker 01

  That fucking thing that night when everything fell apart, that was a bad night.

• 1:24:22Joe Rogan?

  What, which night?

• 1:24:22Speaker 01

  When the ball dropped, not this card, but the one before that, when the pay-per-views, when all the disasters started. It was about pay-per-views one night, that nobody was getting the pay-per-view.

• 1:24:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right.

• 1:24:33Speaker 01

  UFC fighters, fucking.

• 1:24:35Joe Rogan?

  The, the app failed, right?

• 1:24:37Speaker 01

  Yes, the app failed.

• 1:24:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:38Speaker 01

  It was too overwhelming for the UFC, I think. Because shit happens. But this must have been bad because.

• 1:24:44Joe Rogan?

  What fight, what fight card was that, Jamie, where there was a failure?

• 1:24:48Speaker 03

  I wanna say it would have been.

• 1:24:51Joe Rogan?

  I don't, was I working that? How do I not know that that happened?

• 1:24:55Speaker 01

  I don't think you were working that one.

• 1:25:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, three thirteen, so two events ago. May, March.

• 1:25:07Joe Rogan?

  Where was that? Where was it?

• 1:25:11Joe Rogan?

  Was that, uh, Adesanya or?

• 1:25:13Speaker 03

  Ankalev decision over Pereira.

• 1:25:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay, so I was working that one.

• 1:25:18Speaker 01

  You did work it?

• 1:25:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was working that one for sure. It was Ankalev when he won the title over Pereira. So the, the pay-per-view, what happened? It went down or it was partially went down?

• 1:25:28Speaker 01

  It partially went down. I couldn't order the card.

• 1:25:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:25:31Speaker 01

  There was a bunch of shit going on. Then I went on Twitter and I saw Frankie Edgar, a bunch of other guys, fighters, saying, what the fuck is wrong with mine? I'm like, okay, it's not just me. And then I heard the riffraff that night, and then the next day they were talking about, and then Monday, Dana was hot. I know he did something, he said something about it.

• 1:25:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think in general, the pay-per-view numbers are down as well because the casuals aren't buying it as much because you don't have, first of all, the UFC is not like boxing. Like a boxing pay-per-view is like, oh, Canelo's fighting in four months. And then you get gear up and you buy the Canelo Alvarez pay-per-view. If you're a big boxing fan, you might buy one once every couple months. If you're like hardcore, you're, you're watching all of them, you're on Dzone and you're on ESPN Plus, you're watching every boxing match there is. But there's not a lot of pay-per-views. The UFC has a pay-per-view every week. Or, excuse me, every month. And then they have a fight every week. So it's like getting people to shell out 70 bucks for this card.

• 1:26:32Joe Rogan?

  And also like some of the great fights are on the undercard. And you already, before the pay-per-view starts, you already have, you know, three and a half hours of great fights you could watch for free. And some of them, they're trying to lure you into buying the pay-per-view, so some of the best fights are really on the undercard. Sometimes, like guys who you don't know their names yet. There's always one good fight that I want to watch on the undercard. And I go, "I'm gonna watch the undercard." Oh, way. Two fights or something. Always, always. And then you guys start talking about the fights and then you get, you know, and then you order it. Yeah, I mean, the big fight clearly this last weekend was Volkanovski versus Lopez. That was the fight I really wanted to see, because I really wanted to see if Volkanovski could pull it off. All-time great, featherweight champion, one of the, for sure, greatest fighters of all time.

• 1:27:18Joe Rogan?

  Shoo-in for the Hall of Fame, but he's 36. And he got knocked out two times in a row and he's fighting this fucking animal in Diego Lopez. Diego Lopez is an animal. It was a great fight, though, and Volk pulled it off. But the fight that I really wanted to see was Bryce Mitchell versus John Silva. Right. Because John Silva is a motherfucker, dude. That guy looks like a world champion. He looks like. He choked him with a darts? Yeah, well, he choked him like a ninja choke. Okay. And, um, was like a no, no arm in. With the darts, you have the arm in and you cinch it up. That was just all neck. And put him to sleep. He tapped and then he went out. And to do, and to just beat him

• 1:28:00Joe Rogan?

  from pillar to post, the entire fight. And was smiling and laughing and looked like he was never threatened and never in danger. Just like he was on another level, like way above Bryce. Like, looked like a world champion. Like, even guys that had beat him before, that beat Bryce Mitchell before, except Josh Emmett, who just KO'd him with one punch. But like even Ilija Topuria, like, he gotta get a hold of him first. Like, John Silva looked like he was never a fight. Like, almost like he was having fun. He was trying to get him to touch hands at the beginning of every round. He wouldn't do it, he's like, "Come on, touch hands." He tried to, he's like, "Touch hands." He wouldn't touch hands. And then finally, he just put him to sleep.

• 1:28:42Joe Rogan?

  He's an animal, man. That guy is, uh, that whole team, apparently, the fighting nerds. I was talking to John Anick about this. He said they have data scientists that work for the team. Data scientists who analyze techniques. And they like break things down, like what's effective and patterns. They find patterns, patterns of opponents. What the person does, when they do it.

• 1:29:03Speaker 01

  Where are these guys at?

• 1:29:04Joe Rogan?

  Brazil.

• 1:29:05Speaker 01

  All the way in Brazil.

• 1:29:06Joe Rogan?

  Brother, that's a team of fucking savages.

• 1:29:10Speaker 01

  Who else is there?

• 1:29:11Joe Rogan?

  Kyle Barhalio, who's one of the top 185 pounders, who might be the best in the world. I mean, when, when he fights Jerkis Tupac, eventually we'll see, but he's just storching that division. I mean, he's one of the best contenders in that. And then you have Mauricio Ruffi, who's one of the baddest lightweights alive, gigantic lightweight, tall and long, wheel kicked Bobby Green into another dimension. All right, you got that guy. You got Carlos Protest, who's a fucking killer. Stone cold Muay Thai killer, who's really hard to take down. And he's just 100% finishing rate in the UFC, I believe. He just knocked out Neil Magny. Like he's, he fucks everybody up. He's, he's a sniper. Like super, like skillful and slick Muay Thai guy.

• 1:29:54Joe Rogan?

  So their whole team is just killer, killer, killer, killer. It's all killers. Just like a, a team of like brilliant up and coming killers. See, these guys are learning now. It's not just about training hard. It's not just about sacrifice. It's about thinking hard, too. It's about learning. It's about like really going over your game and like what, what can you improve upon? And how do we, how do we make this better? How do we seal up this part of the game? Amazing.

• 1:30:25Speaker 01

  I think the guy that led that for me was GSP.

• 1:30:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  I was always very impressed with how every fight, he showed up with something different.

• 1:30:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:34Speaker 01

  While his opponent was still like, yeah, GSP's got skills, but I still got this right hand. Okay.

• 1:30:40Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he was always learning.

• 1:30:43Speaker 01

  He was always learning. He was in the city with the kickboxing guy or he was over.

• 1:30:48Joe Rogan?

  Phil Nurse. He was with Phil Nurse in the WOT. Yeah. And then he would go with, um, all the Greg Jackson guys.

• 1:30:54Speaker 01

  Wild card. He would go over there.

• 1:30:56Joe Rogan?

  Go to Wild Card, Trans boxing.

• 1:30:57Speaker 01

  Remember when he fought, I think it was Josh Kaczak? And he was jabbing, was that the fight where he fucking broke the jab out and he had trained at Wild Card?

• 1:31:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, his jab, it fucked Josh's eye up so bad that Josh couldn't fly home.

• 1:31:09Speaker 01

  I remember that, I remember all that shit, and that's what I liked about him, his training was all, another time, you know, you're watching and he's doing gymnastics.

• 1:31:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:18Speaker 01

  Where's gymnastics in all this player game?

• 1:31:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, he just realized that gymnasts are so powerful, because they have such control of their body, and he's like, well, I'm gonna get better control of my body, so he learned to do backflips and shit.

• 1:31:28Speaker 01

  Swimming, fucking doing this, doing that, and meanwhile, you're still going, well, my jiu-jitsu game is elevated. This motherfucker just went and worked out every part of his game, but focused on just one, really.

• 1:31:39Joe Rogan?

  You know what's really crazy about him? He still does the same thing. He's really a martial artist. He comes to Austin all the time to train with John Donahue and Gordon Ryan, all the time, he's here all the time. I see him like every couple of months. He comes down to train, and then he'll go somewhere else to train, and he'll go somewhere else to train. No desire to fight. He doesn't want to fight anymore at all. He's just a martial artist. He's so happy and content. He's like the best example of a guy who retired with millions in the bank and is living like his best life. He's a real martial artist.

• 1:32:08Speaker 01

  He really is.

• 1:32:09Joe Rogan?

  He just wants to learn and grow, like, why would he come here and train with Gordon Ryan? Why would he train with that fucking animal, if you're not actually thinking about competing? But for him, it's just all about growing. It's all about growing and this martial arts journey that he's on for his whole life. It's really amazing. It's very cool. You know, when he would come to 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu, and he would learn stuff from Eddie, too. He came down to learn the turning sidekick from me. Like, he just wants to learn from everybody, he wants to learn everything. He's always constantly seeking out.

• 1:32:42Speaker 01

  Very smart.

• 1:32:43Joe Rogan?

  Very smart.

• 1:32:44Speaker 01

  Very smart.

• 1:32:45Joe Rogan?

  And you'll see him, he's in all these different gyms, you see him, oh, look, he's in Thailand, he's working with Muay Thai guys, he's over here, he's over there. He's just enjoying his life and training martial arts all over the world. It's incredible, incredible. It's beautiful, because the saddest thing for me is when a fighter stops fighting and they lose their identity. George has never lost his identity. He hasn't gone through some weird phase where he doesn't know what to do with himself.

• 1:33:08Speaker 01

  I am not impressed with you for four months. That was one of the furthest things I've ever heard in my life.

• 1:33:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that became a like a meme before memes.

• 1:33:18Speaker 01

  I was not impressed with your performance.

• 1:33:20Joe Rogan?

  Nicest fucking guy in the world too. And really smart, man, really interested in all kinds of shit, like always like reading stuff and fascinated by things. Just a guy, just a curious guy who wants to learn and he's just going through his life, just having a good time now. He doesn't have to think about business, you know, it's just training, which is kind of fucking awesome.

• 1:33:43Speaker 01

  It's awesome, it really is awesome.

• 1:33:44Joe Rogan?

  It really is, because like with no, no goal in mind other than growth, other than growth and getting better. And he's still rolling hard, man, I'm watching him roll with these guys, he's rolling with assassins. You know, he's still doing jujitsu with like top flight black belts, man.

• 1:34:00Speaker 01

  Would you ever consider going back to Taekwondo now?

• 1:34:02Joe Rogan?

  No, no.

• 1:34:04Speaker 01

  Just going to a school once a week and just going in there with a bunch of guys and throwing some kicks and shit?

• 1:34:09Joe Rogan?

  I work on my own.

• 1:34:10Speaker 01

  I am, no, no, you're not feeling me.

• 1:34:12Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 1:34:13Speaker 01

  Anybody can work on their own, could you imagine now at your, like I've been thinking about it. There's a purple belt at my jujitsu school, he's sixty-eight.

• 1:34:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:34:22Speaker 01

  He came from a fucking Shotocon karate background. And he goes, I teach in the Bronx every Wednesday night, he goes, this was my school, I sold it, but I still go up there on Wednesdays. Come with me sometime, I'm like.

• 1:34:33Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:34:34Speaker 01

  How cool would that be?

• 1:34:35Joe Rogan?

  It would be cool, take a class.

• 1:34:36Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying, one time a week, like something that you, what's the?

• 1:34:40Joe Rogan?

  Long as you didn't have to spar.

• 1:34:41Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, but you do those, you know, like when you do Taekwondo.

• 1:34:47Speaker 01

  They have those.

• 1:34:47Joe Rogan?

  One steps.

• 1:34:48Speaker 01

  One step, like those little, those shushi, they run, I think they call where I throw punches, yeah, it's drill. And that, that's what you need, you're not gonna, you're not gonna fucking, you're not gonna fucking spar and go crazy, but.

• 1:35:00Joe Rogan?

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• 1:36:27Joe Rogan?

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• 1:37:11Joe Rogan?

  That's drinkag1.com/joe. It's really important, and people don't like to do them because sparring is so fun. Same with jiu-jitsu. Like Eddie Bravo always say that, like drills are terrible, they're so boring. But if you can do them, it'll make your jiu-jitsu way better. Like the biggest leap that I ever got in my, like when the beginning of my jiu-jitsu journey. Was when I became friends with Eddie. We would train in my garage. I had mats in my garage. And we would just drill for like an hour and a half.

• 1:37:36Speaker 01

  What would you drill?

• 1:37:37Joe Rogan?

  He was showing me a lot of his rubber guard stuff, like the early stuff. But we would just drill like different positions, how to escape certain positions, how to finish from certain positions, what to be careful of, and then we'd just go through paths. Like path was, you know, pass into half guard, push on the knee, move into side control, side control, head and arm, secure the arm, finish the arm triangle. And what would do is like, if he was doing it to me, I would resist like forty percent maybe. You know, you just kind of like sort of resist and they secure it and you kind of resist and they finish it off. So it's like basically you're just, you're doing it as if you're doing the same pathway with the same things that a person would do to resist, but then they're not trying to really stop you.

• 1:38:22Joe Rogan?

  They want you to tap them. Like this is the idea of the drill. So I'm just, I'll get my hand in, but it's just so that you could push my hand down and then lock it over.

• 1:38:30Speaker 01

  Well, that's big now.

• 1:38:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, drilling is everything.

• 1:38:33Speaker 01

  People are flow rolling. People are selling it more. Even Tom DeBlas is like, dog, listen.

• 1:38:40Joe Rogan?

  It's a way to get better. It's really the way to get better.

• 1:38:43Speaker 01

  But the problem is you gotta keep a motherfucker flowing. And that's the problem that after a while you're like, oh, and all of a sudden, next thing you know, it's not a flow.

• 1:38:50Joe Rogan?

  Right. Now you're going to try to kill each other.

• 1:38:52Speaker 01

  And that's the problem. It always starts off with a flow for a minute and a half. And then it goes off the fucking reservation.

• 1:38:58Joe Rogan?

  That's always the same with kickboxing, sparring too. When I was training at the Jet Center, there was this one dude that I used to love to train with. He was an older guy. So I was probably twenty-six back then, twenty-seven maybe. And he was maybe like closer to thirty-five, forty, like had had some fights. He just liked to stay in shape and we would spar and he knew I was an actor, comedian, whatever. I was on a TV show and I didn't want to get hit too much and he didn't want to get hit. So we would spar, we'd just touch each other.

• 1:39:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:28Joe Rogan?

  And I knew he wasn't gonna try to knock me out. But other guys, I knew like, we're fighting, like we're sparring. This is a fight. But with him, I knew and I got so sharp because of that. He and I would work out a couple of times a week and I noticed like my timing and everything was like much sharper because I was going through those pathways and not tense. You know, I was going through those pathways, so sharpening those lanes. So like punch, come, slip, counter. All these things were like flowing in my head because we weren't hurting each other. But it's so hard for young guys to understand that. To get better is to like be playful with it. You wanna like the Thai guys, they just, cause they fight every week. When they spar, they don't hurt each other at all.

• 1:40:10Joe Rogan?

  They touch and they they laugh like, aye, aye. They're like playing a little game with each other. You ever seen Thai guys?

• 1:40:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, they have a good time.

• 1:40:17Joe Rogan?

  Like you watch, like, one of the the best things to watch is like two elite, high level Thai guys just spar with each other. Just just spar playful, light. Cause they're joking around and laughing and they're touching each other. But they're really working on that timing. They're really working on those moves, working on like seeing what's coming, how to stop it, how to get in on them. But they're not hurting each other at all.

• 1:40:43Speaker 01

  You know, it's weird that I'm older and I love doing crazy shit. Like I love it. I don't have much in the daytime no more. So I'll try to catch a boxing class or jujitsu and all that shit. And jujitsu is the toughest one for me. Like I haven't been to jujitsu since November because I've been sick. You know, I had a bunch of problems and I was on antibiotics. I was having a hard time fucking breathing. But I'm I'm I can't wait to go back. But now I'm gonna go back and do it a little bit differently.

• 1:41:09Joe Rogan?

  Flow.

• 1:41:09Speaker 01

  Flow. A lot more flow and there's one guy that'll flow with me. He's a cop. And drilling more.

• 1:41:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:16Speaker 01

  To have a blue belt class is basically a lot of drilling.

• 1:41:20Joe Rogan?

  That's great.

• 1:41:20Speaker 01

  You fucking burn a lot of calories in there.

• 1:41:22Joe Rogan?

  Drilling is so important.

• 1:41:24Speaker 01

  But you have to go, in the daytime, they roll a little bit more. At night, the classes are so shut that you don't have time to roll that long. So I would rather drill a long time and then roll once and get the fuck out of it. That's perfect for me. You know, so and even with boxing, I don't, when I go box, I don't fucking go crazy. I hit the speed bag a little bit, two rounds, and I hit the bag that moves around. That burns a ton of calories. Then I hit the hard bag and I'm out of there. Seven, three, seven, eight, three minute rounds and I'm good.

• 1:41:53Joe Rogan?

  You know what I like to do? I like to put on the Wu-Tang Clan and just fuck that heavy bag up.

• 1:41:57Speaker 01

  I love it. I love the earphones. I love all, and I'll tell you what else I got into now that I'm older. Cause when I went to that hospital, it taught me a lot, Joe. It reminded me that I wasn't a kid no more. Like we fuck around and we have a good time and we think we're bad motherfuckers, but.

• 1:42:12Joe Rogan?

  You wanna stay healthy?

• 1:42:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, ever since I come out of the hospital a month ago, everything's fucking changed.

• 1:42:17Joe Rogan?

  Come out here, Joey, get you on that Ways to Well, get you.

• 1:42:20Speaker 01

  I think we're going tomorrow.

• 1:42:21Joe Rogan?

  Come on, we're going tomorrow.

• 1:42:22Speaker 01

  Are you busy tomorrow?

• 1:42:23Joe Rogan?

  If you're here, I'm not busy.

• 1:42:25Speaker 01

  All right, let's go.

• 1:42:26Joe Rogan?

  Come on, let's go, we're good.

• 1:42:27Speaker 01

  I like that blood thing they did.

• 1:42:28Joe Rogan?

  Yes. What is that called? Do you got a IV bag?

• 1:42:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, that was a little one. It wasn't a big IV.

• 1:42:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the, so you're talking about a, um, stem cell push?

• 1:42:38Speaker 01

  Push, yeah.

• 1:42:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, IV stem cells, yeah. I just got that, uh, Tuesday. I brought Rich Voss in.

• 1:42:44Speaker 01

  How was he?

• 1:42:45Joe Rogan?

  He was great. I love that guy to death.

• 1:42:46Speaker 01

  I love him too.

• 1:42:47Joe Rogan?

  We had a good time. We had a good time at the club, too.

• 1:42:49Speaker 01

  We see, I see him a lot, you know.

• 1:42:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:51Speaker 01

  I see him every Wednesday.

• 1:42:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's Jersey, too, right?

• 1:42:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, every Wednesday we meet up and do a show.

• 1:42:56Joe Rogan?

  Sweetheart, I love him to death. So he's been having a problem with his rotator cuff.

• 1:42:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's been.

• 1:42:59Joe Rogan?

  So I brought him down to Brigham. Brigham's got this crazy thing, I'm gonna show you this, Jamie, because it's fucking bananas. He's got this crazy thing where he's got an AI that you ask questions to. Have you seen it, Jamie? It's fucking nuts, right?

• 1:43:13Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah. Hey, can you tell me, uh, the history of testosterone and prostate?

• 1:43:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'll send this to you, Jamie.

• 1:43:24Joe Rogan?

  So Brigham has this new beautiful facility where Ways to Well is, a great view.

• 1:43:30Speaker 01

  Oh, they moved?

• 1:43:31Joe Rogan?

  They moved. They have a new facility.

• 1:43:32Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:43:33Joe Rogan?

  They bought a bu- a building and re-renovated it and it's, it's incredible. But one of the things they have is this big screen with this alien. And you touch the alien and ask it a question and it uses AI. Like, so it has an AI, a large language model base, press, list this. Press it.

• 1:43:54Speaker 07

  Hey, can you tell me, uh, the history of testosterone and prostate cancer? My doctor said he's worried it's gonna cause prostate cancer. What do you have to say?

• 1:44:04Joe Rogan?

  So the alien like thinks about it?

• 1:44:09Speaker 07

  The concern stems from a 1941 study by Huggins that suggested testosterone fueled prostate cancer, but this has been thoroughly debunked by modern research, particularly by Dr. Abraham Morgenthaller. Current evidence shows no causal relationship between testosterone therapy and prostate cancer development. In fact, many men with prostate cancer have low testosterone levels. The outdated theory misunderstood how testosterone interacts with prostate tissue, and numerous studies now show properly monitored testosterone therapy is safe for most men, even those with a history of prostate cancer in some cases.

• 1:44:42Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that wild? That's amazing. That's the future. It can answer any question. It could analyze your blood work. You could tell it, hey, you know, my vitamin B12 level is this, my testosterone level is that, what would you suggest I take? What I suggest is a protocol of, and it would just like rattle off things that you need. You need some niacin in your system. Do you take magnesium before you go to bed? You know, how much REM sleep are you getting per night? Are you monitoring that? And it'll start talking to you. Isn't that crazy? It's an app too. It's on your phone. What were these people talking about last night at the club? They go on ChatGPT or some shit? You don't know what that is? No. I don't know nothing. ChatGPT is AI. It's like, it's on your phone.

• 1:45:27Joe Rogan?

  Like you can ask it a question. You know, like, I can, like, give me a good question. Who was the composer of Swanee River? Who is the composer of Swanee River? So you see how my phone has all those rainbows on the outside like that? That means it's searching for the answer. And boom, gives me the answer. Can you go on ChatDPT and tell me more about Stephen Foster, the composer of Swanee River? Bam. And then it goes on ChatGPT. I'm an AI design assistant. Feel free to ask anything.

• 1:46:10Joe Rogan?

  What Disney movies are the most racist? It's working with ChatGPT right now. It hung up on me.

• 1:46:23Speaker 01

  The reason why I asked Joe, that is one of-

• 1:46:25Joe Rogan?

  Chat GPT told me to go fuck myself.

• 1:46:27Speaker 01

  Joe.

• 1:46:28Joe Rogan?

  It disconnected.

• 1:46:31Speaker 01

  One of the greatest episodes. You were talking to me a couple of weeks ago. We were talking about, you watched the Gleason interview on 60 Minutes.

• 1:46:41Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yes.

• 1:46:43Speaker 01

  You know I watch The Honey Mooners every Saturday.

• 1:46:45Joe Rogan?

  Do you really?

• 1:46:46Speaker 01

  Every Saturday. At midnight they're on. I don't have time for anything else. I gotta be home by midnight on Saturday, okay? And then the reason why I said Swanee River to you is that is one of the best episodes that Gleason ever did. He was going on the ninety-five thousand dollar question. And you have to go up levels.

• 1:47:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:05Speaker 01

  And they ask you questions. He picked music. So he had his buddy Norton get all the sheet music and Norton would play music for him and go, "Who is this?" And he would have to say, and then the Italian lady, Miss Manicotti, would come down and it was a great episode. But there's one scene where Norton would play and he'd go, "Norton, why the fuck do you..."

• 1:47:27Joe Rogan?

  There it is.

• 1:47:29Speaker 01

  "Why the fuck do you play this?" Watch this.

• 1:47:34Speaker 05

  Come on! This is my last night to brush up on the songs. Now let's not waste any time. Get going.

• 1:47:42Speaker 08

  All right.

• 1:47:49Speaker 05

  Will you wait a minute, please? Why must you always play

• 1:47:56Speaker 05

  before you go in and play the song I'm trying to guess?

• 1:48:00Speaker 08

  If I told you once, I'd tell you a hundred times. It's the only way I can warm up before I play the piano. A pitcher warms up before he pitches a ballgame? I gotta warm up that way before I play the piano. I hope I don't have to tell you this again. Are you ready?

• 1:48:12Speaker 05

  Go ahead and play.

• 1:48:23Speaker 01

  All right, now go to the end so Joe can see it. So he goes-

• 1:48:28Speaker 09

  Time's running out. Hurry up. You better take a guess.

• 1:48:29Speaker 01

  No, play the song for him so he sees.

• 1:48:34Speaker 09

  Hundred dollars. Are you ready? I certainly am. All right, Mr. Camden, for one hundred dollars, who is the composer of Swanee River?

• 1:48:50Speaker 01

  Look at his face, man.

• 1:48:54Speaker 09

  Swanee River. That's right, Swanee River. Can we have a few bars of Swanee River, Jose?

• 1:49:03Speaker 09

  That's Swanee River? That's right. Now, who's the composer? Your time's running out. Hurry up. You better take a guess. Humma, humma, humma, humma, humma.

• 1:49:17Speaker 09

  Ed Norton?

• 1:49:20Speaker 09

  Oh, I'm terribly sorry, Mr. Cranston. No, the correct answer is Stephen Foster. But thanks so much. You've been a wonderful contestant on a swell sport. Goodbye, Mr. Cranston.

• 1:49:33Speaker 01

  His fucking face, dog.

• 1:49:35Joe Rogan?

  The sixty-minute interview was great, wasn't it?

• 1:49:37Speaker 01

  It blew me the fuck away.

• 1:49:38Joe Rogan?

  It was great, just listening to him talk. That was when he was just playing golf and drinking. He had that crazy golf cart that he would drive around in and...

• 1:49:49Speaker 01

  What's the book I read where he taught Richard Pryor how to smoke pot, like how to hide it? They did a movie, The Toy, right? Then they do the toy.

• 1:49:56Joe Rogan?

  He taught him how to hide it?

• 1:49:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, because Richard Pryor lit a joint up one day and he's like, "What are you doing? Come on, you gotta have some class."

• 1:50:02Joe Rogan?

  How do you hide it?

• 1:50:04Speaker 01

  You know, under your hand and...

• 1:50:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:50:05Speaker 01

  Mix it with the cigar. He thought, Richard was smoking it out. And Jackie Gleason goes, "What are you doing, man? Come on. Nice, smoking it like this." Richard Pryor's like, "This motherfucker taught me how to smoke a joint, eh?"

• 1:50:16Joe Rogan?

  So he would tuck it away?

• 1:50:17Speaker 01

  And he was twenty years older than him.

• 1:50:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:19Speaker 01

  You know, Jackie Gleason was a fucking beast, man.

• 1:50:21Joe Rogan?

  That guy partied.

• 1:50:22Speaker 01

  Beast gone. He did it all.

• 1:50:24Joe Rogan?

  He did a lot of partying. He died fairly young, you know.

• 1:50:26Speaker 01

  How old was he?

• 1:50:29Joe Rogan?

  I want to say, close to sixty.

• 1:50:32Speaker 01

  But he...

• 1:50:33Joe Rogan?

  I think it was a couple different kinds of cancer.

• 1:50:38Joe Rogan?

  How old was he when he died, Jamie? Yeah.

• 1:50:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, was he? Oh, he's seventy-one? Oh, that's not too bad.

• 1:50:47Speaker 01

  Which is still, no, that's still, the national, I was seventy-four, right?

• 1:50:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I thought he died younger than that.

• 1:50:52Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:50:53Joe Rogan?

  Um, but yeah, hard living.

• 1:50:56Speaker 01

  Hard living.

• 1:50:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Do you ever hear the, hear the story about him and Richard Nixon?

• 1:51:00Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:51:01Joe Rogan?

  Richard Nixon and him were getting drunk one night, and Richard Nixon goes, "You wanna see some UFOs?" And so he, they get on Air Force One, and they fly to one of the Air Force bases where they have this fucking crashed UFO and alien bodies on ice.

• 1:51:14Joe Rogan?

  Um, Jackie Gleason apparently becomes obsessed with UFOs after this, has a house built in upstate New York that looks like a UFO. His house was a flying saucer. He had a house built that looked like a UFO. And, uh, the story's unsubstantiated, it's hard to know if it's true, but it was like his ex-wife told it in some magazine, right? Um, but it, it tracks. It, it tracks with, if you believe these people that say that there was some sort of a crash, that they did recover, then they do have bodies. So this is his fucking house. He has a house built. That's one image of it, but there's other images of what looks even more like a flying saucer.

• 1:51:55Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that wild? That, it kinda looks normal like a house there though, but the guy built a flying saucer house.

• 1:52:05Joe Rogan?

  Nixon and him got hammered. I'm hoping that's gonna happen with me and Trump, but Trump doesn't get drunk.

• 1:52:13Joe Rogan?

  You imagine, you're hanging out with Trump, and he's like, "You wanna see the UFO? Can you keep a secret?"

• 1:52:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there he is, hanging out with Nixon.

• 1:52:24Joe Rogan?

  And, um, they supposedly do have something that crashed, and they supposedly do have biological entities that are on ice somewhere. As cor- according to these whistleblowers that work for the government, and now we're talking about, I just don't know what's real. It's hard to know. When you talk about it, you feel like a moron, 'cause it's like...

• 1:52:45Speaker 01

  There's gotta be something out there.

• 1:52:46Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 1:52:47Speaker 01

  Okay, we've got to assume there's something out there, whether or not, I don't even know.

• 1:52:51Joe Rogan?

  Right, but should we assume that that something's been here?

• 1:52:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:52:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:52:56Joe Rogan?

  I think so.

• 1:52:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, they've been here.

• 1:52:58Joe Rogan?

  Well, I would come here if I was from somewhere else and I was like, what, you know, imagine if you're like from some super advanced civilization that's completely abandoned war. There's no thievery, everybody reads everybody's minds, there's no unfairness because they've worked all that stuff out. It's just superior intellect because everybody's evolved for a million years past where we are now. And you get the opportunity to see what a breakthrough civilization looks like, right when they're figuring out nuclear power, right when they're figuring out flight and war and cell phones and shit like that, like, that would be like you and I going back and going and visiting the real Wild West.

• 1:53:39Joe Rogan?

  Like being in a, like a gold mining town in 1830. You know, you know how nuts that would be? You know how fucking crazy, be one of the minor forty-niners in 1849, going all the way to San Francisco and these fucking animals stabbing each other in saloons, like, you know what that would be like?

• 1:53:58Speaker 01

  That's insane.

• 1:53:59Joe Rogan?

  The kind of barbarians that took a chance with wooden wheels getting pulled by a horse and went across mountain ranges to try to get to the gold. That would be like us going to visit that, of course we would visit that. Of course, like if you had a chance to see what it would like to see Christopher Columbus land in the Bahamas, to see what that must have been like, of course you would want to see it. If you could go literally back in time and see primitive humans, well, if they're just like us, but they're like us millions of years from now, of course they would want to visit us. It would be so interesting. Can you imagine if there was a planet where we could go, where we could see cavemen?

• 1:54:40Speaker 01

  We'd go.

• 1:54:41Joe Rogan?

  Would you imagine?

• 1:54:41Speaker 01

  Fucking must, we're gonna stay in an hour.

• 1:54:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:45Speaker 01

  But it's, uh...

• 1:54:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, you could see guys making fucking arrowheads with flint for the first time and strapping them with sticks, giant fucking heads and big teeth, nah, covered in hair, just figuring out tools. Oh my God, we would be fascinated by those people.

• 1:54:59Speaker 01

  The way I think about it is, listen, since I'm a kid, we're talking about Martians. And aliens, right? Since I'm fucking

• 1:55:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:06Speaker 01

  Six, seven, I've been hearing about this. The moon landing was in sixty-nine?

• 1:55:11Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:55:11Speaker 01

  So I was six. So it started after that. Like, I heard more and more about it. So what you mean to tell me is in fifty-five years, we haven't found that more information about it? We know. We know what's going on. We know. NASA's not stupid. They know something's out there. They play with us a little bit from time to time. But there's something out there, my friend.

• 1:55:30Joe Rogan?

  I think so, too.

• 1:55:31Speaker 01

  There's something out there.

• 1:55:32Joe Rogan?

  I think the other problem with the president knowing, you know, can they keep things from the president? Of course they can. The president is only there for four years. And then he has to get in there again. And if he wins, he's only there for four more years. These fucking people have thirty-year careers, fifty-year careers in the intelligence agencies.

• 1:55:47Speaker 01

  They know.

• 1:55:48Joe Rogan?

  If they know something, and they've known something since, you know, fucking Gerald Ford, why, why would they tell you? Why do you need to know? We've already been hiding this from the population for so long.

• 1:55:59Speaker 01

  And those old timers didn't need a, what's that, when you have to sign something?

• 1:56:02Joe Rogan?

  NDA?

• 1:56:03Speaker 01

  NDA, like, NDA, whatever the fuck.

• 1:56:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there was no NDAs back then.

• 1:56:06Speaker 01

  There's no NDAs back then, so... There was something to it.

• 1:56:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:10Speaker 01

  There was something to it. You know, you got that place in, uh, New Mexico. You got Hudson County, what we discussed before, where the marshals landed. You have all these places that have a higher volume. I wonder what's number two in UFO sightings?

• 1:56:25Joe Rogan?

  I wonder what's number one? What's number one? Is it Hudson Valley?

• 1:56:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, Hudson Valley, by the George Washington Bridge, that whole thing.

• 1:56:32Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:56:33Speaker 01

  That's number one. I wonder what number two, number three, and number four is?

• 1:56:37Joe Rogan?

  It's interesting that a lot of them are over near where the ocean is. Cause that's, that's one of the big theories, that they have bases in the ocean. Because the reality of the ocean is, no one's looking. You know, if you have something on earth, satellites can see it. Like, if you have something that's in the middle of Nevada, in some deserted area, and you have buildings, satellites can see that. They can see the structures. So you have to hide them. But if you have something in the ocean, nobody sees anything. We, we've only explored, what, what is the percentage of the ocean floor that we have just explored? I think it's like 10%. I think it's somewhere around 10, maybe 20%. So that means that 80% of the ocean floor is undiscovered. We have no idea what's down there.

• 1:57:22Joe Rogan?

  And it's, you know, a mile, two miles deep in some spots. If you're from a super sophisticated civilization that's millions of light years away, and you can come here instantaneously, and you have the ability to traverse in these, what they call transmedium craft, which means they can go through air, go through water, just, it creates a gravity bubble around it and go through everything. That's what they think these things are doing. That's what they can go 500 knots underwater, just like nothing we have could do that. And if they have bases under the ocean, it makes sense that these sightings are all near the ocean. It just totally makes sense.

• 1:57:59Speaker 01

  A lot happens in the ocean. That ocean's stronger than what you fucking think.

• 1:58:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:03Speaker 01

  I loved going to a beach and just sitting on the beach.

• 1:58:06Speaker 03

  Uh, seabed 2030.

• 1:58:09Joe Rogan?

  Seabed 2030, what they've mapped out?

• 1:58:11Speaker 03

  They've gotten 30% mapped. They're trying to get the whole thing done by 2030.

• 1:58:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really? Oh, interesting. Oh, what if they find a base?

• 1:58:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:58:19Joe Rogan?

  What if they get down there and they find bases? What is all that stuff? What are those lines?

• 1:58:23Speaker 03

  I'm guessing that's where they probably sent their drones, probably, you know.

• 1:58:26Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:58:27Speaker 03

  It looks like a pool scrubber, you know.

• 1:58:29Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, that's crazy. So they're scouring the ocean floor to try to get them out? That's why the aliens are gonna come out. Wow, that's Hawaii. Whoa.

• 1:58:39Speaker 03

  Oh, that's not Hawaii, Hawaii's over here.

• 1:58:41Joe Rogan?

  It is? What's that? One of those islands in the middle? Is that Catalina? Oh, I see. Oh, you resumed in?

• 1:58:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:58:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:58:48Speaker 03

  I was trying to see what this stuff is.

• 1:58:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I see.

• 1:58:49Speaker 03

  I think these little light colored brown spots are what's sticking up, and the rest of it's underneath.

• 1:58:53Joe Rogan?

  Mmm. Wow.

• 1:58:56Speaker 01

  I gotta pee real quick.

• 1:58:57Joe Rogan?

  Go ahead, dog. We'll pause, yeah. We'll be right back, folks. Woo, and we're back. What were we just talking about?

• 1:59:05Speaker 01

  Aliens and whatnot.

• 1:59:06Joe Rogan?

  And whatnot, yeah.

• 1:59:08Speaker 01

  You know, I feel that we know, we're just not gonna, you know, it's like everything else, man. We knew who shot Kennedy, we're not gonna release it, you know, we're gonna play with us. That's what they do. I think that they would be a, I think even after all the alien talk and everything, I think Americans couldn't really handle it.

• 1:59:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, there was actually a discussion. This guy Hal Putoff, who was a physicist that worked with the US government, told me that during the Bush administration, they actually wanted to talk about the potential of disclosure to the American people, what would be the pros and the cons. And so they listed, what could be disrupted? Well, the economy could be disrupted, religion could be disrupted, government could be disrupted. What would be the positive aspects? And they started looking at the positive aspects, like scientific development, the understanding that we're not alone, you know, and then they weighed it all out. And the cons outweighed the pros by a significant number. And so they decided not to disclose it. This is what Hal Putoff says.

• 2:00:08Joe Rogan?

  So he is a scientist that's worked with the government for decades. And he, you know, I had dinner with him and Jacques Vallée. Jacques Vallée is the guy who, the character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind was based on, the French guy, the scientist. Jacques Vallée's been studying UFOs since like, I think the 50s. Brilliant, brilliant guy. He's written tons of books on, on the subject. And the stories that he knows, that he's aware of, the historical stories, what really gets crazy is when they get into like the 1700s and the 1800s and the early 1900s. They're the same stories. People are seeing the same things, the same kind of things are happening to these people. The people that are encountering the crafts and encountering the beings, they're reporting the same stories. They're real similar, to the point where you're like, what's going on?

• 2:00:53Joe Rogan?

  And if it's real unique in like, you know, I haven't been, I haven't seen UFO, I haven't seen aliens, you haven't, Jamie hasn't, but what if one of us did? Like, if there's millions and millions and millions of people and one guy is fucking walking his dog in the middle of a field, and all of a sudden this thing just lands right in front of him, and no one's around. And then these things get out and they look at you and they're talking to you with their mind. And then they get back on their ship and they fucking disappear. They zoom off so fast. You can't even follow it with your eyes. And then you're sitting there going, what the fuck do I tell anybody? Who's gonna believe me? Who's gonna believe this? I should probably not tell anybody. And then you're lying in bed at night and you're all freaked out. Cause you can't believe you know something that other people don't know.

• 2:01:38Joe Rogan?

  You know the most incredible thing, that not only are they real, but they can do things that we can't possibly do. They cannot be us. There's something different. It's a different life form.

• 2:01:49Speaker 01

  I think when they came here, maybe somebody painted them as green or whatever. Me, I feel that if they're here, they walk around looking like us. They're a, they're a more intelligent life source, like the movie Cocoon.

• 2:02:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:02:05Speaker 01

  That's in my mind. And to just, I'm the type of guy I'll talk to you.

• 2:02:09Joe Rogan?

  Or Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

• 2:02:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I'm the type of guy I'll talk to you, but I'm just talking to you just now about

• 2:02:17Speaker 01

  somebody, the government telling me that aliens exist. I would, it would knock me down because I know they do.

• 2:02:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:02:22Speaker 01

  But not really.

• 2:02:23Joe Rogan?

  But not really.

• 2:02:24Speaker 01

  But not really. I know they do, but not really. And that's, I think with everything.

• 2:02:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:28Speaker 01

  So it would even shock me a little bit to find out. But I think that, yeah, Cocoon type people.

• 2:02:33Joe Rogan?

  Jacques Vallée is of that opinion too. Like what's interesting about him is he really maintains scientific credibility after all these years, despite like studying UFOs at back in the time where if you studied UFOs, you were a crackpot. But everything he looked at was just based on logic. This is what we know and this is what we don't know. This is what we can prove. This is what we can't prove. And we estimate that there's a certain percentage of these experiences, whether it's 5% or what, that are legitimate. There's a great number. The vast majority of things that people see in the sky are not UFOs.

• 2:03:10Speaker 01

  No, but I guarantee we do see things.

• 2:03:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:13Speaker 01

  That we think is something else and it's a UFO.

• 2:03:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:16Speaker 01

  I could see that happening also.

• 2:03:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah. People see the Saturn. They think Saturn's a UFO. They think, you know, they, people see things too, you know? And then there's also weird phenomenon that's real, like ball lightning. Ball lightning is a type of lightning that like juts around like a ball, like a fucking, like a giant softball of lightning, just darting around the sky. And then it goes away. And it's just, it's just a weird form of lightning that is, has been documented. But if you saw that, if you were in the middle of like New Mexico by yourself camping and you saw that, you're like, fuck man. You think it's a fairy or something like that. Oh my god, man, angels are back here on mushrooms. And you see ball lightning, like, what the fuck, man?

• 2:03:57Joe Rogan?

  You're seeing traces behind the ball lightning. You would one hundred percent believe and feel like you came in contact with an angel. You would believe and feel like something from another planet communicated with you. You'd probably fill your head up with all this important shit that it told you that you have to tell people. I've gotta tell people, man, we're doing it all wrong. We're all one, man. We're all one. We can't be fighting these wars. It's so foolish and they want us to know. They want us to take care of mother earth. Meanwhile, you just saw ball lightning while you're on mushrooms.

• 2:04:29Speaker 01

  You know, when I lived in Boulder, I got into a, a hole one time. I was talking to some guy. He was telling me about mermaids.

• 2:04:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh god.

• 2:04:37Speaker 01

  At a coffee shop. And it drove me fucking crazy. It drove me so crazy. I didn't have a computer back then, but I actually had to go to the library and I went down a hole. And maybe ten years ago, I went online one night and got high, was reading about mermaids. Like, that's something I believed in.

• 2:04:52Joe Rogan?

  The dumbest thing about mermaids is they have a fish from the waist down.

• 2:04:56Speaker 01

  Right, but weren't they actually spotted in the eighteen hundreds somewhere? Or is this a lie?

• 2:05:03Joe Rogan?

  It don't even make any sense. Like, fish don't have sex, you fucking idiot. That means it's the most beautiful one in the world from the waist up and all she do is give you blowjobs. Because fish don't have sex.

• 2:05:13Speaker 01

  That's okay. That's not my problem. I'm not, I'm not looking to have sex with a chick.

• 2:05:18Joe Rogan?

  But people are. They wanna fall in love with a mermaid. But like, that's the craziest person to fall in love with.

• 2:05:23Speaker 01

  Is there any evidence?

• 2:05:24Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:05:25Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 2:05:25Joe Rogan?

  No, no, they're manatees. These people saw manatees. Probably their eyesight sucked because they all had scurvy. You know, they were all fucking starving to death. They all had syphilis. Their faces are falling off. These rotten scumbags that are on these boats together. And then they, they're so horny that they wanna fuck manatees. They see manatees in the, the foggy water flopping around. I swear it's a girl with a tail. And they wanna hop off. They're like, like a guy in the desert that sees an oasis that's not there. I see water and you're just trying to drape the sand. That's what it is.

• 2:05:57Speaker 01

  Come on, there's gotta be a mermaid out there.

• 2:05:59Joe Rogan?

  These horny scumbags from like Europe in the 1500s, these monsters. They're on this boat together for four months and they, they think they see women in the water.

• 2:06:11Speaker 01

  God damn it, you just ruined everything.

• 2:06:15Joe Rogan?

  They were probably on opium. They probably had syphilis, they were drunk.

• 2:06:20Speaker 01

  That's why you gotta love the eighties.

• 2:06:21Joe Rogan?

  Animals.

• 2:06:22Speaker 01

  That's why you gotta love the eighties, cuz two guys actually went into the studio and go, look. We got a movie about a fucking guy who falls in love with a mermaid.

• 2:06:32Joe Rogan?

  With a mermaid.

• 2:06:33Speaker 01

  And the guy's like, come on, how you gonna do that? All of a sudden it's fuck. Let me tell you something, that's another good movie.

• 2:06:38Joe Rogan?

  Do you know Joey, that's a good point, like the, this is one of the reasons why America became what it is. Is that everybody who moved here initially took a crazy chance. You oughta take a crazy chance. You oughta get in a boat in the 1700s and make your way across the Atlantic Ocean? You have no idea if storms are coming, there's no fucking weather.com. You, you don't even know what it looks like over here cuz they don't have pictures yet. Someone's gonna draw you. This is what I saw when I visit Maryland.

• 2:07:17Speaker 01

  I told you, there's a fucking mermaid you fucked.

• 2:07:20Joe Rogan?

  Look at that fucking fake thing.

• 2:07:22Speaker 03

  He sewed a fish bottom onto a monkey's body or something like that.

• 2:07:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus Christ, that's hilarious. That's one of the reasons why America became so powerful. Two, the two things. The Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights. Like that stuff, all the laws that gave you freedom of speech. The right to bear arms, right to practice your own religion, all those things are incredible. Also, the type of people that moved here. Crazy, risk-taking motherfuckers that were willing to get their kids and get on a boat. And make it across the country. So everybody that came over here was just fucking gung ho. They're all wild folk. Wild, dangerous people trying to get jobs on the East Coast. That's still to this day why the East Coast is so crazy.

• 2:08:10Joe Rogan?

  So chaotic and so fun. Cause that was like the echoes of these pioneering monsters. That travel their way across the ocean. Crazy people desperate for anything. Europe just sucks so bad, like we gotta get the fuck out of here. Whether it's from Spain or Ireland or where they boats, just boats. Italians boats. And then they make their way across the land and then, you know, cover the whole thing eventually. And in a few hundred years. It's a crazy story, man. And we gotta be careful of this place. You can't sacrifice. The things that made us so great in terms of our freedom just for political gain.

• 2:08:54Joe Rogan?

  Because then we're gonna give the whole thing away. And we could go the same way Iran's going. The same way they they were, they had a like a European style. Country and now it's a dictatorship. And now it's Islamic and you know, there's no getting out of that now without some crazy revolution, right? It could go that way anywhere, man. If there's people anywhere on earth in 2025, living under the thumb of tyranny. There can be people here. It's just a bunch of things have to go wrong. We saw a few things go wrong during COVID that should have woke a lot of people up. That the fabric of society is more fragile than you think it is. And that's why the founding fathers are so wise.

• 2:09:36Joe Rogan?

  They put into play protections to keep tyranny from taking over. They had a bunch of checks and balances that you can't get through. You you don't have ultimate power like a king. You have Congress, you have the Senate, you have, you know. You have the Supreme Court. It's gotta be like that. You can't change that just because you want your side to win. Everybody has to be aware of that. Everybody gets short sighted. Democrats get short sighted on this. Republicans get short sighted on this. You can't have that happen. It's not good for anybody. It's not good for us. If you think your opinions and your beliefs and what you know is more beneficial to the American people, state your case. That should be the only thing we do.

• 2:10:21Joe Rogan?

  These people should be able to state their case. Explain how what you can do. We should demand that. And all that other shit? Stop it. Just get rid of it. Get rid of all of it. Get rid of all of it. No one should be pro-crime. No one should be letting people off the hook for violent crimes. No one should be like letting gang members live in some sanctuary city from another country that come over here just to cause havoc and create crime because we have weak policing and because we let them in. Like no one, no side should want that. No side should want the country to be more dangerous, you know? And no side should want people deported to El Salvador prisons that aren't really gang members either. No side should want no due process.

• 2:11:03Joe Rogan?

  No side should want the ability to the government to like, imagine like you're a person who's over here illegally, but you're not a criminal. You're just a guy who doesn't have paperwork and then they send you to a prison somewhere. Someone decides because of your tattoos that you're in a gang. So now all of a sudden you're in a prison in another country and you haven't even been to trial. We can't let that happen either. You know?

• 2:11:23Speaker 01

  Did you see that fucking prison where they took them in Nicaragua, whatever that place?

• 2:11:26Joe Rogan?

  It's in El Salvador.

• 2:11:27Speaker 01

  El Salvador where they house them, 40 and the same.

• 2:11:30Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it's crazy.

• 2:11:31Speaker 01

  That's fucking insanity.

• 2:11:32Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 2:11:33Speaker 01

  That's insanity, brother.

• 2:11:34Joe Rogan?

  And apparently they have unmarked graves. They, you know, people die, they get strangled, whatever, taken in the back, unmarked grave. You know, it's, it's complete dehumanizing of people as a overcorrection to having too much crime and gang violence. So too much crime and gang violence, then you throw all due process out the window. Round everybody up, throw them all in jail. And if you're gonna do that, a certain percentage of them are, I mean, it's gonna be effective. You're definitely gonna curb crime, but you're also gonna victimize a few innocent people. A certain percentage of innocent people, like undoubtedly, especially if you have no due process.

• 2:12:10Speaker 01

  Listen, man, we know that.

• 2:12:11Joe Rogan?

  Like, this is, this can't come to America, you know? And if we're sending our prisoners over there, how much different is that than the other stuff that we hate? Like, sending jobs overseas where people work for a dollar a day and don't get healthcare? We would never allow that in America, right? Well, we would never allow this kind of a prison in America either. So should we really be involved in sending people to this kind of a prison if they're from another country? You know, it's a, it's a, it's an interesting question.

• 2:12:43Speaker 01

  These are tons of interesting topics here.

• 2:12:46Joe Rogan?

  I think it's, there's something, there is a bit of a problem, right? If you come from one country and then they put you in a prison in another one without a trial. If they say you're a gang member and you're in MS-13, you come from Mexico, you make your way into America, and all of a sudden they put you in El Salvador prison, you're like, yo, what happened here?

• 2:13:04Speaker 01

  They took a lot of, they took a handful of people that had weird tattoos and stuff like that.

• 2:13:10Joe Rogan?

  That's what I've heard, but I don't really know the truth yet.

• 2:13:13Speaker 01

  No, you don't know the truth.

• 2:13:14Joe Rogan?

  Because, you know, they were, they were saying that, they keep talking about this guy in the mainstream media, saying he's a Maryland father and this and that. But then that Tom Homan guy says, no, he's a member of MS-13. And so, okay, who's telling the truth? And they were saying that if he got deported and came back into this country again illegally, we would round him up again and do it all over again. We didn't make a mistake. Okay, well, who's telling the truth? Is he just a Maryland man that's mistaken identity?

• 2:13:41Speaker 01

  Where's his police record?

• 2:13:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, right.

• 2:13:44Speaker 01

  Let me see his police record. If the guy has a tattoo and he's got no police record, and he's got a family and a wife and blah, blah. It's like, remember the, we used to take me for chicken?

• 2:13:52Joe Rogan?

  Which place?

• 2:13:53Speaker 01

  By your old house? Twenty years ago, you used to always invite me for chicken.

• 2:13:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Chicks, yes. Oh, how good was that place? He had that, that wood-fired rotisserie.

• 2:14:04Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 2:14:04Joe Rogan?

  Only cash, no credit cards.

• 2:14:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, no credit cards.

• 2:14:07Joe Rogan?

  That's what killed them.

• 2:14:08Speaker 01

  So think about this. What if he had that for 20 years? Great guy, because I always went up there with you, and he was very nice to us.

• 2:14:14Joe Rogan?

  Great guy.

• 2:14:15Speaker 01

  What if they came and got him because he didn't have a green card?

• 2:14:18Joe Rogan?

  Uh, he was, he was a legal citizen.

• 2:14:20Speaker 01

  No, no, no, but he was legal?

• 2:14:21Joe Rogan?

  He was legal, he was legal.

• 2:14:23Speaker 01

  You know, there's people like-

• 2:14:23Joe Rogan?

  He was second generation.

• 2:14:25Speaker 01

  Okay, there's people that came and, you know, they're here, before I send them back-

• 2:14:29Joe Rogan?

  Actually, I think he was more than second generation.

• 2:14:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I wanna make sure that this guy had roots in the community. I'm not gonna just put him on a fucking plane, Joe.

• 2:14:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's, but the, I think what you gotta do is just get rid of criminals only. But the only way to know if someone's a criminal is to have due process.

• 2:14:46Speaker 01

  But it's not over a fucking tattoo.

• 2:14:49Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:14:49Speaker 01

  It's due process.

• 2:14:50Joe Rogan?

  It's due process.

• 2:14:50Speaker 01

  That's all I want from anybody.

• 2:14:52Joe Rogan?

  Cause there's a lot of kids get stupid tattoos.

• 2:14:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:14:54Joe Rogan?

  And then you have them for life.

• 2:14:55Speaker 01

  That'll fucking know.

• 2:14:56Joe Rogan?

  You know, when I went to Japan, um, I couldn't work out in the gym, in the hotel. They made me go up to my room, put a long cleave shirt on, cause of my sleeves. You can't have open tattoos and work out at like a nice place. Cause it's connected to the Yakuza.

• 2:15:12Speaker 01

  Hmm, yeah.

• 2:15:13Joe Rogan?

  So like, you, you have to, you have to follow their rules, you know, they, they demand that you follow their rules.

• 2:15:20Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 2:15:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:22Speaker 01

  I can't, I can't throw somebody back in a fucking prison like that, just cause of a tattoo. I gotta see something, I gotta see something. He did something to disrupt the system.

• 2:15:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I just, see, the thing is, I don't know. I really don't know. I don't know the, the truth of these cases, cause you get a, a biased take from one side oftentimes, and then you get a biased take from the other side, and they're duking it out to, to shape reality for you.

• 2:15:49Speaker 01

  Now, in eighty-five, I lived in San Francisco. And I teamed up with a bunch of Cubans that came in seventy-nine, the Mario boat lived. And you know, you went over there every day and I had to buy the old guy, the guy that ran the corner, I had to buy him a little bottle of rum, a half pint. And he would let you operate your game, whatever your game was, selling weed, whatever. But, my point of the story is, that I remember this specifically. But from the time I got there to the time I left, there was probably eighty Cubans on the block. Maybe twenty of them got arrested. In those days, you got arrested, you got deported, like the following week.

• 2:16:23Joe Rogan?

  If you got arrested.

• 2:16:24Speaker 01

  They put you in jail. If you didn't have paperwork, or you came in that Cuban thing, they would take you right, immigration would come get you within seventy-two fucking hours, and you'd be right back in Cuba, and Fidel would shoot you.

• 2:16:36Joe Rogan?

  See, it's one thing if you arrest someone for a crime, and then you deport them, I get that. But it's another thing when you're rounding up people, because you think they look suspicious. Like, during the first Trump administration, there's this dude who was a contractor, who was doing something for my house, and he was a army veteran, I think he was in for twenty-plus years, and worked at a management position at a big construction firm. So he had like a prestigious job, he was like a legit guy. So he's at Home Depot, and he's dressed nice, you know polo shirt on, nice slacks, he like, he looks like a guy who has money.

• 2:17:17Joe Rogan?

  These ICE guys pull him over and demand that he show them their paperwork. And, you know, he's like, "What the fuck are you guys doing?" And he says that to them, and then he pulls out his, you know, army ID, and, you know, his driver's license, like, "You can't do this. You can't just come up to people." He goes, "I'm a fucking American citizen." He goes, "I was born in America, and I served my country for twenty-five years, and you fucking idiots are just gonna harass me in the parking lot because my family is of Spanish descent? The fuck away from me." And, you know, he was hot, and he came to the house right from there. It was telling me about this, I was like, "God damn." Because here this guy is like,

• 2:18:03Joe Rogan?

  gentleman businessman, like sweetheart of a guy, wonderful to talk to, great to do business with, have a conversation with him, great guy. They just looked at him because he's brown, like that's it. There's no way you could make any other way you're gonna point to that guy and think he's an illegal. That guy's driving a brand-new Silverado with a construction logo on the side of it, shiny, clean car, polo shirt, slacks, clipboard in hand. Fuck you.

• 2:18:35Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm worried about. I'm not worried about guys that get arrested.

• 2:18:40Speaker 01

  Dog, I was worried when they came to Jersey. I didn't go out that week. I didn't do much. I'm a Diaz.

• 2:18:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, I'm glad they didn't deport you.

• 2:18:47Speaker 01

  I didn't know, but you never, listen.

• 2:18:48Joe Rogan?

  Right, but if you did, if you did get arrested for a crime, you probably now would say, yeah, you should get deported. Like, if you did a violent crime.

• 2:18:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:18:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:57Speaker 01

  Take me back.

• 2:19:00Joe Rogan?

  But there's a difference between getting arrested for a violent crime and just going to Home Depot because you're brown. That's cra- that's crazy.

• 2:19:07Speaker 01

  And on this hall, this ice hall, listen. You're picking up, I don't know how many thousands of people, correct? How many people did they pick up on this hall?

• 2:19:15Joe Rogan?

  I do not know.

• 2:19:15Speaker 01

  That they shipped back?

• 2:19:16Joe Rogan?

  I do not know.

• 2:19:17Speaker 01

  Dog, you're gonna have a couple clerical errors. You always, if I, listen.

• 2:19:22Joe Rogan?

  More than that.

• 2:19:23Speaker 01

  Even the computer will pick them. You know, it's just a clerical error.

• 2:19:29Joe Rogan?

  But there's also...

• 2:19:30Speaker 01

  Just be big enough to say, "We made a clerical error." Don't keep saying that I know you're a gang member because you got a fucking tattoo on.

• 2:19:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, the thing is like that, we don't know what's correct, right? But there's not just clerical errors. If you don't have due process, you also have the potential for people to potentially falsely accuse someone on purpose just so they can arrest them because they don't like them. Or they have a bad business dealing with them, or there's some reason why they wanna send this motherfucker to show him to El Salvador. People are crazy. They do shit like that all the time. If you're just rounding people up and you, this guy that you fucking hate happens to be from Nicaragua and you just fucking sic, sic the dogs on him. If you got a hotline when people can call and rat on people. People are rats. There's a lot of rats. Especially if you just have a wild number that you can call. Wild number to turn people in. Remember during COVID?

• 2:20:22Joe Rogan?

  Like, they were, they were giving people rewards for turning people in for having parties in LA. And the mayor was saying, "Normally snitches get stitches, but now they get rewards." Do you remember that?

• 2:20:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:20:35Joe Rogan?

  That retarded mayor that they had in LA during the entire time? I don't even remember. He was such a fucking...

• 2:20:42Speaker 01

  Hi, Los Angelinos.

• 2:20:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, such a...

• 2:20:45Speaker 01

  Wasn't that guy?

• 2:20:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. My favorite thing was when Black Lives Matter protested in front of his house. Like, you're never woke enough, bitch.

• 2:20:53Speaker 01

  Well, this is my problem. This guy.

• 2:20:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, yeah, that guy. What the fuck is his name? Carsetti. Oh, God. What a tool.

• 2:21:07Joe Rogan?

  Does he say the snitches usually get stitches? Say it in the beginning. See, I think it's at the beginning.

• 2:21:13Speaker 10

  Make sure that everybody continues to let us know where those folks are. If you've observed recurring violations of the safer at home order, please continue to let us know at coronavirus.lacity.org/businessviolation. You know the old expression about snitches? Well, in this case, snitches get rewards. We want to thank you for turning folks in and making sure we are all safe.

• 2:21:39Joe Rogan?

  You should go to jail for saying that.

• 2:21:41Speaker 01

  I'm gonna explain something.

• 2:21:42Joe Rogan?

  You fucking monster.

• 2:21:43Speaker 01

  Due process has been my problem since all this shit started. And it started with even the cancel culture. Okay, due process. You gotta come at me and let me know everything. Just because you opened up your mouth? I said that 22 years ago at a party, I kissed you, I tried to kiss you, that ain't good enough. That just ain't good enough. Well, I went home and called my girlfriend Diane. We'll get her on the fucking stand too. But I don't, I believe in due process. I'll do whatever time you want me to do. Prove that I did it. Just don't open up your fucking mouth.

• 2:22:14Joe Rogan?

  Absolutely, but when you have something like, I'm asking for you to turn people in for anything. People are gonna go nutty and start ratting on people. That's just what they do. You can't get away from that. You can't, snitches get rewards. Like, if you have that for immigration, you got a real problem. You got a real problem. Because there's legit scumbag racists out there that'll find people and start targeting them. People swat people all the time. You know what that is? They fucking call 911 and say, someone's being held hostage at Joey Diaz's house at gunpoint. And then the SWAT team shows up. And you might not know what's going on, so you might pull out a fucking gun and get shot.

• 2:22:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've heard of that. Where college students are doing it.

• 2:23:00Joe Rogan?

  People are doing it all the time.

• 2:23:01Speaker 01

  All the time, yeah.

• 2:23:02Joe Rogan?

  It happens, there was a bunch of conservative, uh, online people that were getting swatted recently.

• 2:23:10Joe Rogan?

  It's wild shit dude. You know, you give people this ability with uh social media or even more so if you like anonymously tip people that people are immigrants here illegally like boy that's gonna be a problem. If that ever happens.

• 2:23:27Speaker 01

  And that could just be a woman who owns a fucking fruit stand and a Mexican owns a fruit stand down the corner? And she could just call and go, listen, this guy's illegal.

• 2:23:36Joe Rogan?

  There's people that are excited that people are getting deported like be fucking careful. Be careful what you wish for. You don't want this more people searching for people to lock up and then here's the thing like any other business, once you start getting numbers, you don't want those numbers to drop off. You don't want the jobs go away. You know, you got a quota, right? If you got a quota, there's if there's a, I don't know if there is a quota, but if there's a quota for how many immigrants we're gonna send back. You gotta have a problem because then now you've made it a game. And now I'm trying to score points and if Joey gets thirty guys, I want to get fifty guys. Fuck Joey. Yeah, I got fifty. I think a few of them might not be guilty, but fuck it, who cares?

• 2:24:14Speaker 01

  Who cares?

• 2:24:15Joe Rogan?

  I'm getting a Cadillac.

• 2:24:17Speaker 01

  I hit the bonus.

• 2:24:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, fuck them. They should all go back anyway. Agreed, agreed. Yeah. There's a lot of fucking idiots in this world. There's a lot of people that they're short sighted. And by giving, if if there is, I'm not saying there is a quota, but if there is a quota, you're giving people a game to play now. You don't want to play games with people.

• 2:24:36Speaker 01

  Why think even on ticket quotas? There's a percentage that they know they're gonna get beat on.

• 2:24:42Joe Rogan?

  Like, uh, yeah.

• 2:24:43Speaker 01

  If I give you ten tickets, eight of them are gonna be good, two of them are gonna be, he's gonna come up with an attorney and fight this. The wind was blowing and you know.

• 2:24:53Joe Rogan?

  I always said that like, what would you do? See, this is a problem with the government that they're exposed with this Department of Government Efficiency. And I had heard about this before from my friends were that are in the military. That like if you get a budget for the year, if you don't spend all of that money, your budget's gonna be reduced next year. You don't want that to happen. So you spend money wildly, completely inefficiently. And I I think that's part of the problem that we're facing here. It's like they don't want to lose out on any of this money. They've been getting this money this way for so long.

• 2:25:29Speaker 01

  You're right, if they don't use it, that's right, the budget goes down.

• 2:25:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the budget goes down.

• 2:25:33Speaker 01

  They call that something, what is it called?

• 2:25:35Joe Rogan?

  Bullshit, I don't know, what is it called? What is it called? I had a point, but I forgot what my point is. But it's just that, you know, we're in a weird time here. Where, uh, people are arguing about whether or not we should abandon core principles that made this country great. Like, very intelligent liberal people with degrees are talking about the First Amendment should have restrictions. Like, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get to decide. You don't get to decide. Because without free speech, I don't know who's right. And I can't just go on narratives. It's too, that's what, that's how religions work, that's how cults work.

• 2:26:18Joe Rogan?

  They make you go on a very specific narrative and you can't go outside the lines. If you want the human race to evolve, if you want people to evolve culturally, if you want people to communicate better, they gotta be able to say whatever they want. And then you decide if you want to communicate with people that speak differently than you. And if you think that they have an egregious position, you're allowed to say something about it. And you talk about it, and everybody has to figure out who's right and who's wrong. And unless that's able to go on, you're never gonna get to the truth. And if you just like cut that off for things that you find offensive. The problem is, maybe I don't find it offensive, and you can't decide what I can take in and not take in. You're not allowed to, because I don't know you and you don't know me. This is nonsense.

• 2:27:03Joe Rogan?

  Like, you gotta give human beings the ability to discern for themselves. The only way for them to truly do that is they gotta be able to communicate openly. And they were trying to stop that during the Biden administration. They were putting the fucking brakes on all kinds of shit that people are allowed to talk to. And everybody's like, "Yeah, we gotta stop disinformation." Like, you're signing your own fucking death warrant, you don't even know it. You're giving away the only thing that we have left.

• 2:27:33Speaker 01

  Taking a vitamin, it's called Cardio Ned.

• 2:27:39Speaker 01

  I'm taking something else that's called like, they gave it to me after my lung thing. And my lung feels a lot better. You know what the doctor told me when he told me to take the one supplement?

• 2:27:48Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:27:49Speaker 01

  They took it off the market during covid.

• 2:27:54Joe Rogan?

  Why'd they do that?

• 2:27:54Speaker 01

  Because it's such a great lung supplement. Like, I feel a lot better since I've been on it for five weeks. They took this off the internet and everything. They shut down their website for three years.

• 2:28:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 2:28:06Speaker 01

  So.

• 2:28:07Joe Rogan?

  That sounds so crazy that if you had said this to me before covid, I would like, Joey's crazy. Stop talking like that, man. I was so pro pharmaceutical drugs back then, like, as the cure-all to everything and modern medicine and vaccinations are so important and covid woke me the fuck up.

• 2:28:25Joe Rogan?

  When I found out that they were trying to stop doctors and take away their licenses if they prescribed ivermectin.

• 2:28:36Joe Rogan?

  Take away your license. If you just prescribe off-label a drug that people say is beneficial in certain trials, but you're, for some reason, you're not allowed to do it for the first time ever. Doctors are prohibited from prescribing something off-label that has no negative side effects. It's never happened before. Never happened before where there's a public psy-op where they're trying to pretend that it's horse dewormer, so nobody will take it. It's bizarre. And they did it right in front of our face. And they just did it for money. And the fucking media went along with it. And so did the liberals. The liberals went along with it.

• 2:29:16Joe Rogan?

  And they parroted out everything they say. Safe and effective. Saved millions of lives! With no, like, people are dropping like flies to the left and the right of them. People are stroking out on the subway. And everyone's pretending that nothing's wrong. Everyone's pretending this drop in all cause, this increase in all cause mortality isn't crazy. That's not weird. It's not weird that cancer is on a skyrocketing rate. That's not weird to you? Everyone's pretending? And if you bring it up, you're a kook?

• 2:29:48Joe Rogan?

  They tricked everybody into being the cop. Everybody is calling that Garcetti hotline. Everybody's a little rat.

• 2:29:59Joe Rogan?

  They're all little rats. They're little rats working for the man and they'll rat on each other. And then if something happens to them because of it, they keep their mouth shut because they don't want to hear it.

• 2:30:10Joe Rogan?

  So they like do the work of the man for the man because they're suckers.

• 2:30:16Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that wild? And that, that, what we're talking about is the problem with

• 2:30:24Joe Rogan?

  this disclosure of aliens. Those people are gonna fall apart. The people that fell apart in Covid, oh Jesus. They're gonna be wearing silver jumpsuits and sucking alien dicks the moment those guys arrive. They will jump on team alien, they'll be rounding up people and using us for slaves. They'll do whatever the aliens ask. They'll be like vampire familiars, remember those? Where there was like a guy wasn't a vampire but wanted to be one, so he'd do anything the vampire asked? That's what those fuck faces would do. All those, all the people that got nine boosters, all those morons? They'll, they'll be like on team alien a hundred percent. It is imperative that the human race perish. It's imperative. We're a blight on the world.

• 2:31:07Joe Rogan?

  And the Anunnaki are gonna help us. Those fucking idiots, they'll sell us right down a river.

• 2:31:14Speaker 01

  It's crazy what's going on in the world right now, my friend.

• 2:31:17Joe Rogan?

  It is, but there's, it always has to be crazy, so we realize it's crazy, so people snap out of it. Like, this is, this is a part of society. It's like, it, it, there's not a linear path to success. What happens with societies is, things go really well and then they go terrible and you either adjust or you don't. And if you don't, the civilization dies and then a new one emerges. But if you do, then you recover. And it's like, how many times can you do that? How long can you keep this fucking thing going on? Because you're gonna have like, great prosperity, which makes soft people, you know, hard times makes hard men. Hard men make soft times, soft times make soft men, soft men And make hard times and everybody knows that. That's what it is.

• 2:32:00Joe Rogan?

  It just is good, it go, and it's just a matter of recognizing that it's happening, so you course correct. Which is why everybody's leaving California, they're not course correcting. They're going into madness and they're like, no, we're progressive. And then, no, no, you're going into the rocks. No, no, no, the rocks will protect us. No, you're gonna die, you're gonna hit the rocks, it's gonna be over. Just like there's no more Rome, is gonna be no more LA, like you fucking morons. Alright, there's the, the world is littered with civilizations that lost their way. You can go and find the ruins everywhere. You know, there's, they're gone. They went away. That's how it happens, stupid. And you're doing it right now and we either recognize that or we don't. And if we don't, it's not good.

• 2:32:43Joe Rogan?

  But I think we will. I think we have a different, you know, a different way of communicating now, because people can talk so much online. You're gonna get a lot of stupid shit online, you get a lot of dumb things online. But you're also gonna get a lot of conversations that make you think. That make you go, that actually makes sense. Like, why are we assuming that the way we're doing it so far and the way we've been doing it is the only way to do it? What is wrong with this system? How do we get the money out of it? How do we get money out of politics? How do we get the number one corrupting factor out of figuring out what's best for all of us? How do we do that?

• 2:33:22Speaker 01

  Smoke weed.

• 2:33:23Joe Rogan?

  Eat mushrooms, talk to aliens.

• 2:33:25Speaker 01

  That's it. I don't get involved in none of that shit. It doesn't bother me.

• 2:33:29Joe Rogan?

  I do sometimes when I think about it, cuz I don't, I go down roads. I don't wanna think about it, I wanna just enjoy my life.

• 2:33:34Speaker 01

  And I'm scared for my daughter in the future. Everything else, I gotta fucking take a chance every goddamn day. You know what I'm saying?

• 2:33:40Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Well, that's also one of the benefits of a society with children. A society with children wants to make sure that the future is safe. A society of people without children making rules don't give a fuck about kids. And there's some people actually openly disdainful of children and then they get into positions of government and power. That's not good.

• 2:34:05Joe Rogan?

  I think something happens to you when you have children that I think is an important biological sort of spiritual developmental cycle. There's something that happens to you when you realize this little person you love more than life itself and you're taking care of them now and then you want the world to be a better place. And then you start thinking, oh, all these people around me used to be babies. They used to be babies. This is what we're all in this weird journey and like maybe we could all be a little nicer to each other. You know?

• 2:34:33Joe Rogan?

  If that doesn't happen to you and you don't have kids, you don't have something that you love more than life itself. Yeah, it's a different, that's a different kind of thing. And if you want power when you're that person, that's a different kind of thing too. And especially if you're into war, if you're a warhawk and you don't have any kids, like Jesus Christ, you're willing to send other people's kids overseas to die for some nonsense? And you don't even know what that is like? That's kind of crazy.

• 2:35:00Joe Rogan?

  So we're in a society right now where we have a popular, except for Elon, we have a population decline. People aren't having as much babies as they used to. It just doesn't seem like it because there's so many people, but it's like a, when they look at the numbers for the future, we're in a kind of a weird population collapse thing. Like Japan is fucked. Have you seen any of that stuff on Japan? See if you can find anything on the Japanese population crisis. They're having so few children in Japan that like in three generations, they could be in real trouble.

• 2:35:35Joe Rogan?

  Like the number of people that will have a grandchild right now is significantly lower than it ever has been before.

• 2:35:43Speaker 01

  Ask you a question.

• 2:35:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:44Speaker 01

  The fucks it got to do with me. I don't give a fuck about the Japs. What the fuck is wrong with you, Joe?

• 2:35:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think about it with us. Cause I think about it with like civilizations collapsing. I think about it what we've been talking about the whole day.

• 2:35:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, but we don't have to worry about that.

• 2:35:57Joe Rogan?

  I know, I know, I know. We don't have to worry about it.

• 2:35:59Speaker 01

  This is fucking too much.

• 2:36:00Joe Rogan?

  You're right, you're right.

• 2:36:01Speaker 01

  This is the first podcast I'm done that I'm scared. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck is wrong with you?

• 2:36:04Joe Rogan?

  You're right.

• 2:36:05Speaker 01

  Enough with this shit.

• 2:36:06Joe Rogan?

  You're right.

• 2:36:07Speaker 01

  And politics enough.

• 2:36:08Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 2:36:08Speaker 01

  Covid is over. If you took the fucking needle, fuck you if you didn't. Now they just found out the fucking, uh, the flu shot don't work. I could have told you that 25 fucking years ago.

• 2:36:18Joe Rogan?

  It makes you 25% more likely to get the flu.

• 2:36:21Speaker 01

  And I'm a GED type of fucking motherfucker. So, knock it off. I hate all this shit. I'm scared.

• 2:36:27Joe Rogan?

  Eee.

• 2:36:28Speaker 01

  You know what I'm saying? The fuck?

• 2:36:31Joe Rogan?

  I'm scared too.

• 2:36:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, about Japans. Listen, man, that's what the problem is. We're worrying about this is what the internet fucked us.

• 2:36:38Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 2:36:39Speaker 01

  This is why we have retards walking around believing everything because, I forgot what I was gonna tell you.

• 2:36:45Joe Rogan?

  The internet fucked us.

• 2:36:46Speaker 01

  The internet fucked us. It's too much information. It's like this, I was in the hospital. And I get on a fucking elevator and there's two, three doctors, you know. Half a fags in my world, okay? And they're like, oh my God, we can't wait till the Kennedy report comes out. Well, how is it gonna make a difference in your world? It's like these idiots with the Epstein list. How is it gonna make a difference in your world if Tom Hanks is on that list?

• 2:37:11Joe Rogan?

  I'll tell you why.

• 2:37:12Speaker 01

  Do you not have to go to work tomorrow? Do you have to do all the same shit? It doesn't, that shit doesn't matter to me. I don't give a fuck who's on the Epstein list. I don't give a fuck who went to Diddy's house. It's got nothing to do with me. But in today's world, because of the internet, it makes us think it's got something to do with us. Had nothing to do with me, man.

• 2:37:32Joe Rogan?

  It's a show. That's what it is.

• 2:37:34Speaker 01

  What's a fucking show? I don't wanna watch that show. So now I gotta wait here. 60 years we've been watching the same footage. He got hit. It clocked back.

• 2:37:43Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:37:43Speaker 01

  You know, Lee Harvey out. But now we wanna really fuck with these fucking peanut nimble-headed dummies that are like, well, I wanna see what's on there. Then two days later, the Jews did it. Believe me. Just worry about paying your fucking credit card bills, you fucking idiot. That's what you should worry about. Did you see what happened this year in this country? Fucking millionaires are selling off fucking property before to pay taxes to get capital. Are you fucking kidding me? And people are worried about the fucking Epstein list, like how is it gonna change your life? Who fucking Tom Hanks is fucking in the ass? Who doesn't matter? And do you really care? At the end of the day, do you really care about that sixteen year old girl? No, you don't. So shut the fuck up.

• 2:38:27Speaker 01

  Nobody cares, it's just a fucking show. It's a show. It's a show, it's like I told you about LA. You know, I was watching that. It's a compelling show. What's that fucking show with the crazy stoner guy? Seth Rogen, he just. Oh, I haven't seen it. The studio, okay? Not a bad show. Not a bad show at all. But I was watching that show. And it let me realize what I hated. Short, small talk. That shit we were talking about before. Where people just like, well, the other day a contractor came over, I love this guy, came over to my house gonna do the garage. And there was a moment of ten minutes that. It was him and his son and me and my wife. And we're just standing there. And it just takes one guy to go, alright! Back to work, everybody. Cause if not, we'll sit there for three hours. Right, right, right, right. So how did it feel? Great, how was your trip? How was the hospital stay?

• 2:39:12Speaker 01

  Listen, it doesn't fucking matter how my hospital stay was. Get in your truck, get the fuck out of here and I'll get the fuck out of here. I go my way, you. You know, my wife, I hate her around when people come over. Because she always throw that curve ball in, like tell them to look at the room. No, they don't need to look at the fucking room. Leave them in the fucking garage. If not, you're gonna confuse these motherfuckers. You gotta assume, everybody is confused. You go to a restaurant, you get something wrong. Everybody is not cooking on fucking, you know. It's something I've never seen before. Every time I go somewhere, I'm like, how could they be that stupid? Yeah. How could they not do this? How could they? You go to CBS, there's. Anywhere you go, it's like they're not even training people anymore.

• 2:39:53Speaker 01

  Not even training people anymore.

• 2:39:55Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:39:55Speaker 01

  You know, you go to, I went somewhere the other day, I was at the mall, my daughter was on, I go to PF Chang's, PF Chang's, those type of restaurants, they used to train people for two weeks, you don't get paid. You're in there learning shit, it's not like a regular restaurant where they're like, follow Joe Rogan around for a day and then fucking come back tomorrow and you're on your own. Dog, nobody's fucking, they don't know anything. These young kids, they don't know anything. Nothing.

• 2:40:20Joe Rogan?

  You know, a lot of them aren't even getting driver's licenses. They just Uber everywhere.

• 2:40:26Joe Rogan?

  Kids don't wanna learn how to drive. I don't wanna learn how to drive. They don't care.

• 2:40:30Speaker 01

  My friend was telling me, his son's got a license for two years, he's home every night. We got a license, we, we left the house before we had the license.

• 2:40:37Joe Rogan?

  We were driving to New Hampshire.

• 2:40:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, we had the car before we had the fucking license.

• 2:40:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:40:42Speaker 01

  These kids, but listen, I had, you know, people, I went to a comedy show and a guy, comedian was talking about kids and I'm like, I'm not gonna do that no more. Because that's all of us, we all talk about, when I was fucking forty.

• 2:40:53Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:40:54Speaker 01

  When I was twenty-eight, you know, I did this and I did that, but.

• 2:40:57Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:40:57Speaker 01

  These kids today are different and I've accepted it. I've accepted it in my neighborhood. When I went back, I was pissed for a few fucking months.

• 2:41:05Joe Rogan?

  How come?

• 2:41:06Speaker 01

  Because there's no kids playing, there's kids all over my fucking, uh, street and my little cul-de-sac there, I got like eight fucking kids. Mister Softy comes, we're the only ones out there. Four in the afternoon, where the fucking kids? And then I started.

• 2:41:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, kids don't feel comfortable being unsupervised today. You know, you hear too much about kids being abducted and weird things happening to kids. It's not like they could free range like when we were kids. It's like there's that, that narrative's out there everywhere and then some neighborhoods just aren't fucking safe. Your, your kids shouldn't be out.

• 2:41:39Speaker 01

  Nah, there's a lot of safe neighborhoods where kids don't play. Our neighborhood wasn't that safe, but in unity, there is strength.

• 2:41:46Joe Rogan?

  There's a real problem with, uh, video games. Video games are so good that kids don't wanna go outside.

• 2:41:52Speaker 01

  It's a fucking cellphone.

• 2:41:53Joe Rogan?

  That too.

• 2:41:54Speaker 01

  It's a cellphone and a computer.

• 2:41:56Joe Rogan?

  That too.

• 2:41:57Speaker 01

  It's so many things, but I'm not, I don't have a problem with it no more. That's what I'm trying to say to you, it's who they are now. It's who they are. You know, I was reading something. I just put this together. It's the truth. Remember a couple of weeks, maybe a year ago, they were talking about how low testosterone in these people?

• 2:42:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:42:13Speaker 01

  Kids don't play no more.

• 2:42:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, they don't play. They don't go outside.

• 2:42:16Speaker 01

  They don't run. They don't jump.

• 2:42:18Joe Rogan?

  They don't jump, and then they're eating garbage.

• 2:42:20Speaker 01

  So what do you think testosterone levels are gonna be?

• 2:42:22Joe Rogan?

  And they, they have plastic in their brain. They said that they studied a bunch of people to see micro, how much microplastic they had in their brain. And some people had as much as a plastic spoon.

• 2:42:36Joe Rogan?

  What? Imagine that. You have so many microplastics in your brain that if they extracted it all, you could make a plastic spoon. So of course, that's gonna wreck your fucking testosterone too. And then I saw this thing about Call of Duty. Some fucking insane statistic about the amount of time that in total that's been played in Call of Duty is like more than human civilization. Like the amount of minutes that people have logged, like millions of people playing Call of Duty is like, if you put it all together, it's longer than human civilization.

• 2:43:15Speaker 01

  And I've never played a video game, Joe.

• 2:43:18Joe Rogan?

  Good.

• 2:43:18Speaker 01

  Is that the craziest?

• 2:43:19Joe Rogan?

  You'd love it. Stay away from them. They're crack.

• 2:43:23Speaker 01

  No, I just never felt the need to sit there on a fucking computer and shoot at people. I'd rather shoot at people for real. I'd rather steal a car for real or roll a fucking drug dealer.

• 2:43:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's definitely more fun to shoot at things for real, but video games are very fun. There's, they're not, these people playing them aren't morons. They're fun. They're really fun. What is the long, what is the amount of time spent?

• 2:43:46Speaker 03

  This goes back, there's a Reddit post from 10 years ago, actually, repeating the exact same thing.

• 2:43:51Joe Rogan?

  So 10 years ago, it was that much?

• 2:43:53Speaker 03

  There's, you could probably pick a video game, though, and say the same thing.

• 2:43:55Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:43:56Speaker 03

  Grand Theft Auto.

• 2:43:57Joe Rogan?

  Right, yeah, any really popular game, right? Yeah. How about Subway servers?

• 2:44:02Speaker 03

  This is 25 billion hours played, but this was 10 years ago.

• 2:44:05Joe Rogan?

  25 billion hours?

• 2:44:08Joe Rogan?

  That's, that's so crazy. That's so crazy. That's so many hours of people playing that fucking game 10 years ago.

• 2:44:16Speaker 03

  Same time, so World of Warcraft has 6 billion years played. 6 million, 6 million, 6 million, 6 million.

• 2:44:24Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, so 6 million, that's pre-civilization.

• 2:44:27Speaker 01

  I was a model guy. Weren't you a model guy?

• 2:44:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I, I used to make, um, little Star Wars Millennium Falcon models, chili, model cars.

• 2:44:36Speaker 01

  I used to do all the superheroes.

• 2:44:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember when you could paint them?

• 2:44:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, I used to paint them and the whole thing. That was my, that's the only thing that kept me.

• 2:44:44Joe Rogan?

  That was fun.

• 2:44:45Speaker 01

  Until one day my mom goes, "Stop painting those fucking things, get out of the fucking house."

• 2:44:49Joe Rogan?

  How much paint fumes were we just fucking getting in our bodies, little kids?

• 2:44:53Speaker 03

  Glue.

• 2:44:53Speaker 01

  And glue, paint fumes. Listen, everybody's got their problems. These people talk about.

• 2:44:57Joe Rogan?

  Rubber cement glue, remember that stuff? When you would crack it and you had the, the brush attached to the lid?

• 2:45:02Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 2:45:03Joe Rogan?

  And you pull it out and the smell, you're like, woo! And you'd tell your friends, "Smell this." You'd all be smelling markers. Everybody'd be sniffing markers and sniffing glue.

• 2:45:14Speaker 01

  I was thinking of sniffing glue again, just to see how we feel now.

• 2:45:18Joe Rogan?

  Probably not good, I would imagine. We have some, uh, we have some smelling salts. Should we wrap this up with a smelling salt? Jamie, how many of those are fresh? They're all stacked. Is there any order to those, the way they're stacked? That's the last freshie. Chuck that baby this way.

• 2:45:32Speaker 01

  You got one to go for me?

• 2:45:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, of course.

• 2:45:34Speaker 01

  I have one to go.

• 2:45:35Joe Rogan?

  You really want to take it with you?

• 2:45:38Joe Rogan?

  Okay, here we go. Oh, this is fresh, fresh. This one hasn't been opened yet.

• 2:45:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you hear that?

• 2:45:46Speaker 03

  Melted back on or something.

• 2:45:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy. Whoa, this is a good one. Here we go.

• 2:46:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy. Wow.

• 2:46:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, them fresh ones. Oh my goodness.

• 2:46:11Speaker 01

  I gotta get the right side.

• 2:46:12Joe Rogan?

  Are we, um, are we giving ourselves brain damage or what?

• 2:46:16Speaker 01

  Hopefully.

• 2:46:17Joe Rogan?

  Let's find out about that. What else will we find out about? We figured out the numbers. Was there one other thing? Yeah. Jesus. These fresh ones are brutal. Are we giving ourselves brain damage? I need to know. I can't afford any more brain damage.

• 2:46:31Speaker 01

  I cleared my ears.

• 2:46:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Let's put a lid on that thing and keep it fresh.

• 2:46:34Speaker 01

  Oh my god, Joe.

• 2:46:36Joe Rogan?

  Keep it fresh.

• 2:46:37Speaker 03

  Overuse may damage nasal passages or lungs.

• 2:46:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, that's not good.

• 2:46:43Speaker 01

  What does it do?

• 2:46:43Joe Rogan?

  What's overuse? Overuse can damage nasal pass- I don't think it's getting to my lungs.

• 2:46:48Speaker 01

  Fuck you both. I got damaged nasal fucking paths already and lung hair and fucking-

• 2:46:53Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you're, you're, the inside of your nose is scarred over. It's like a cauliflower ear.

• 2:46:58Speaker 01

  Look at this. That was a good whack.

• 2:47:00Joe Rogan?

  That was a good one.

• 2:47:00Speaker 01

  That was a very good whack. That affected something.

• 2:47:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, cleared you out. I've never tried it before lifting weights. But that's what it's for. That's what they do. Those power lifters.

• 2:47:09Speaker 01

  So is this for strength lifters?

• 2:47:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. The real power lifter guys, they like to take a jolt of that shit right before they- Fucking yeah!

• 2:47:17Speaker 01

  And what's the pros and cons of this shit? Like, what are the long-

• 2:47:21Joe Rogan?

  I don't think there's any pros. It's all cons. This is not good. We just-

• 2:47:24Speaker 01

  But this, the one we just did now is just the higher strength of the stuff they used to put in your nose.

• 2:47:29Joe Rogan?

  It's the same stuff. It's exactly, it's smelling salts. It's just a whole jar of them. It's ammonia, right, Jamie?

• 2:47:37Speaker 01

  Now, if you get knocked out and you put that on them, what happens?

• 2:47:39Joe Rogan?

  They used to be able to do that to boxers in between rounds. And they stopped allowing them to do it, you know?

• 2:47:46Joe Rogan?

  Cause I guess it'll wake you up if you got a concussion a little bit. Just enough for you to get more of a concussion so Tommy Hearns can hit you again.

• 2:47:52Speaker 01

  Oh my god. And I got this fucking Loris, not Loris Fishburne, who's the other guy? The guy I like a lot. He's in Godfather of Harlem.

• 2:48:02Speaker 03

  Forest Whitaker?

• 2:48:03Speaker 01

  I got this Forest Whitaker eye now.

• 2:48:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:48:05Speaker 01

  Did you see it?

• 2:48:06Joe Rogan?

  No, what's going on with your eye?

• 2:48:07Speaker 01

  I don't know. When I get high, it droops.

• 2:48:09Joe Rogan?

  Only when you get high? That's hilarious.

• 2:48:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, right here, over this. So I gotta put like Scotch tape over this.

• 2:48:13Joe Rogan?

  Did you ever see Forest Whitaker in The Color of Money?

• 2:48:16Speaker 01

  Fucking tremendous. He hustles Paul Newman.

• 2:48:18Joe Rogan?

  He hustled Paul Newman. It was beautiful.

• 2:48:20Speaker 01

  He's fucking really-

• 2:48:21Joe Rogan?

  Can I ask you a question? You think I need to lose weight?

• 2:48:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:26Joe Rogan?

  He says that after he robs him. He tricks him, he pretends he sucks at pool, and then slowly but surely Paul Newman realizes he's getting hustled. Sorry, I'll throw this away. And there's a scene where he gets angry and he asks him, "Are you a hustler?" And he's like, "You can quit if you want to quit." It's one of the best scenes. That was a great scene. I forgot about that. It's one of the best scenes in the movie, because that's really how it works.

• 2:48:53Speaker 03

  Just for your clarity, a doctor says this about smelling.

• 2:48:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, what does it say? If you're stuck in a room that was filled with ammonia gas, you would get lung toxicity, potentially you get airway injury, you could potentially die, but breathing this stuff in a few times over a few hours isn't really going to lead to any significant complications. He had the FDA warning is mostly a regulatory issue about misbranding and mislabeling. Oh, okay, so we have to worry. There's no way we could worry, because those powerlifting guys, they've been doing it forever. It's like that Hicks joke about, you know, when you smoke cigarettes, they're on the side of labels. Oh, yeah, low birth weight. Low birth weight, I can live with that. Just pick the ones you like, yeah. Ironic that that guy got pancreatic cancer, and that's a side effect of cigarettes.

• 2:49:41Joe Rogan?

  That's one of, I mean, you can't for sure say that that's what caused it, but that is one of the things that comes from that. Renewed interest may have come after the appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience. Oops. Ahhhhh. Yeah, people blast themselves to death with this shit now. What's going on for Jersey? Who's on that card, Kyla against the Venezuelans? Um, let's pull it up. The main event is Sugar Sean O'Malley and Marabwabish Willie, the rematch, which would be absolute fucking chaos. Juliana Peña versus Kayla Harrison, who's the most jacked female that's not on steroids, walking the face of the earth. Kayla Harrison is fucked, I mean, she passes all her tests, but good lord, that lady's jacked.

• 2:50:26Joe Rogan?

  Bruno Silva, Joshua Van, this is like, they haven't made the full card yet. This Kelvin Gaslim, the fight with Joe Pfeifer that was rescheduled. Joe Pfeifer got real sick in Mexico City. So did Daniel Cormier, and so did John Anick. They all got really sick in Mexico City. Cheeto's on that card. Oh, let me see that?

• 2:50:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was gonna get the better version.

• 2:50:48Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Who is Cheeto fighting?

• 2:50:54Joe Rogan?

  That Kelvin fight is a very good fight, by the way. Kelvin and Joe Pfeifer, Joe Pfeifer is a fucking terrifying dude. Mario Bautista, that's a very good fight. Mario Bautista is rock solid, man. That's a serious dude. And Marlon is a monster, too, because that's a fucking very good fight. Marlon's got the bigger name, but Mario Bautista is a fucking killer. Great card, but it's not fully formed yet. This is just a few fights. Generally speaking, there's, uh... Usually it's around thirteen fights.

• 2:51:30Joe Rogan?

  You know, John and I were talking about that the other day. Like, there's nothing like calling the UFC fights, because you start... You know, if it's in Vegas time, you're starting the fights at 3:00 PM. And you're going all the way through to the pay-per-view. You're doing like six hours plus of commentary, and then you gotta find times to run to pee. Because sometimes it's like, I have to tell the truck, can I pee? And then you gotta... Because I'm drinking Monster Energy drinks, and I'm taking nicotine pouches, and I'm fucking fired up, and I'm drinking a lot of water, too. I'm drinking my hydrogen water, and I have to fucking pee so bad. There's nothing worse when you have to, when you're trying to form a sentence, and you have to pee. You can't think.

• 2:52:09Speaker 01

  It has been brutal for me.

• 2:52:12Speaker 01

  Brutal. And when I eat mushrooms, I gotta pee every twenty fucking minutes.

• 2:52:17Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 2:52:17Speaker 01

  And if I'm in a car, I gotta pull over and pee. And I gotta make sure I'm not in the sexual fucking, uh, territory. Like, I don't pee at...

• 2:52:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, like close to schools.

• 2:52:27Speaker 01

  Churches, fucking parks. Because then they throw you under the bus for sexual whatever.

• 2:52:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:52:32Speaker 01

  And you gotta be careful. But, dog, I'm in a world where there's some weeks are better than others. I don't get up at night to pee, but in the daytime, especially if I work out and I start drinking that water and drinking that water, oh, baby. I gotta start peeing. And when I got sick, this was the beauty of it. Every time I had to pee, I'd get anxiety. I would get a panic attack. I couldn't even make it to the bathroom to walk.

• 2:52:53Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:52:54Speaker 01

  I was peeing my pants on the way to the fucking bathroom, Joe. You have no idea that the last week of February, when I went to the hospital in March, that was possibly... That Saturday, that Saturday night, my blood pressure was 212 over 100, and my oxygen level was at 86. And I wouldn't go to the hospital because I didn't want the ambulance coming to get me at four in the morning in front of my daughter. So I waited till eight and then I drove myself to the hospital. It was fucked up, bro. Wow. That was a fucked up couple of months, man. I didn't know what was going on. And what did they determine it was? It was, uh.

• 2:53:35Speaker 01

  Had heart, congenitive heart failure, when you have fluid in your lungs, edema, whatever, I was retaining, bro. I went, I walk around, right now I'm two seventy eight. I was two sixty five all summer because I was really happy every day. I would go, look, I could fight in the UFC. When I walked into the hospital, I was three nineteen. Oh, you got big. I got big in a month. Oh. Like a month, and I wasn't eating in the hospital, nothing. What were you, what were you, was it like Italian food? Like what got you so big? I was just retaining water. Edema is when you retain water. Oh. Like. Oh, that much water? Oh my god, Joe. And my lungs was getting the water, so I couldn't breathe.

• 2:54:16Speaker 01

  And then when I would not, it got to, it became, it went from me just having to stop. Like if I would walk from here, I wouldn't make it to your bathroom. Couldn't make it to your bathroom. I'd have to stop in the, in between and take like a five minute breath. Meanwhile, holding my pee in. Oh, Jesus. And your fucking stress level was going up and up because you're holding your fucking pee in. It got to the point, I would walk into shop where I'd get what I had to get, but now I gotta stand there. Cause I gotta fucking pee from the walking. Oh, no. And the bathroom's a mile away. There's no walking. You just take your dick out and pee. There's no even. Oh, my god. In those days, it wasn't even getting the container from the car, because I started bringing the container in the car. There was no time. You just get out, open the car door and make believe.

• 2:55:01Speaker 01

  You're waving at somebody and you take your dick out, you're peeing or you, I make believe like I'm getting something from the back of the car. The whole time I'm peeing. Oh, wow. Yeah, man. So as soon as I went in, they put me on these fucking things for three days. And I lost like twenty pounds of fluid. It was fucking amazing. I was peeing one of those full things, one an hour. Really? Couldn't even make it to the bathroom. I would just get up and fucking pee in it, fill it up. And then they did a nuclear blood test.

• 2:55:32Speaker 01

  And they had to take out, I don't know, fuck, six tubes of blood in forty-five minutes. And that's when they came back and they go, "You got sixty-five percent, you're overloaded on fluid in your body. You're retaining that much water and your blood cells are off the charts. So we gotta start draining." I started dr- I started draining. They were taking, I don't know how many tubes from me every three hours of blood.

• 2:55:55Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:55:56Speaker 01

  Look at my fucking arms, they're fucking banged up. I'm like a fucking heroin junkie. So when I got out, I started taking it. Listen, when you end up in a hospital, there's a problem. Okay, there's a problem. You could, you cut a stitch, that's not a problem. You had a situation, that's how I looked at it. There's a problem here, we gotta get to the bottom of this fucking.

• 2:56:16Joe Rogan?

  What is the bottom of it? What's the cause of it?

• 2:56:19Speaker 01

  It was, it was, I was taking MK six seventy-seven.

• 2:56:22Joe Rogan?

  What is that?

• 2:56:22Speaker 01

  And it's a, it's a amino acid peptide which mimics growth hormone in your brain. And it had a lot of dumps, like it, it do insulin dumps and all this type of shit. And it was raising my sugar, it was doing a ton of shit, I didn't even know it. But this ain't the first time it happened. It happened when I was doing testosterone when I was fifty. I had a, a rush of red blood cells and I had to go to, I was in DC and I had the worst fucking migraine headache for days. And they took blood out and they go, "You got too many red blood cells."

• 2:56:56Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:56:57Speaker 01

  So, that's why I can't do any of that shit. And it's like the man said, "If you're gonna do growth, do growth. Don't get something that's gonna mimic growth."

• 2:57:05Joe Rogan?

  What Ways to Well can do for you, what cha- what, what Ways to Well could do for you will change your fucking life.

• 2:57:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, no.

• 2:57:11Joe Rogan?

  It'll get you a full blood panel and figure out what's going on, adjust your nutrition, adjust your.

• 2:57:16Speaker 01

  I love, I love, Brigham's a good fucking man.

• 2:57:19Joe Rogan?

  He's the best.

• 2:57:20Speaker 01

  And he loves what he does.

• 2:57:21Joe Rogan?

  He does.

• 2:57:22Speaker 01

  And that's what the key is. Like, he's jerking off all over that fucking Martian. He loves that shit, he loves it.

• 2:57:28Joe Rogan?

  He loves it. It took forever to build that thing. He was telling me he was having that thing made two years ago and I was like, "Wow, what are you doing?" Now that he got it, like, "Oh, okay, I get it." It's pretty cool.

• 2:57:37Speaker 01

  It's pretty, really fucking cool. But that was what I had going on, man. When it came out.

• 2:57:43Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna see what we could do.

• 2:57:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I quit smoking pot and I was like, "Come on, man." After about a month, I'm like, "Come on, Joey." This ain't what fucking puts you in the hospital, you know this. So I started slightly, I would just do one hit in the morning, because that's all I need is the morning. The rest of the day is bullshit. I just like to be high in the morning with that coffee. That's my world. That lets me know what I'm doing that day.

• 2:58:06Joe Rogan?

  You think about life.

• 2:58:08Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:58:08Joe Rogan?

  Think about what you're doing.

• 2:58:09Speaker 01

  It's like what Bill Heck said, marijuana don't make you lazy. It just makes you realize that what you're gonna do ain't worth doing. Okay, that's the way I look at it. You know, I gotta drive into the city through that podcast, only eighteen people listen to it? I'm not fucking going to listen. You know, that's what happens. And that's what happens with me. I smoke pot in the morning, I'm like, I ain't doing that today. Fuck that.

• 2:58:30Joe Rogan?

  I love you to death, Joey. Let's wrap this up.

• 2:58:32Speaker 01

  My brother, thank you for having me.

• 2:58:33Joe Rogan?

  I'm glad you're in town.

• 2:58:34Speaker 01

  Happy Easter.

• 2:58:35Joe Rogan?

  Let's have some fun. Happy Easter, everybody.

• 2:58:37Speaker 01

  Stay black, cocksucker.

• 2:58:38Joe Rogan?

  Bye, everybody.