Pod Insights The School of Greatness 861 The Power of Keeping It Real About this episode MAKE YOUR OWN RULES. If you want to become a social media star, you have to find your voice and carve out your niche. It’s important to be flexible and open to change- as long as you stay authentic. Staying flexible with your vision could keep you from being pigeon-holed in your industry. Staying YOU will keep your followers interested. If you stay consistent, keep creating, and have fun, you will find your core audience. For this Five Minute Friday, I revisit a conversation I had with Justine Ezarik, where she shared her creative process and the philosophy behind her social media empire. Justine is a social media powerhouse. When she isn’t busy being a YouTube personality, she’s busy being a producer, writer, and author. Justine made her mark in the industry creating videos about tech, travel, and gaming. Her loyal following includes over 6 million subscribers on YouTube and almost two million followers on Instagram and Twitter. Justine says that you need to be creative and unlimited when it comes to life and business. Learn how to be successful on your terms in Episode 861. In This Episode You Will Learn: How to have fun and create content without stressing goals (22:30) The importance of not being pigeon-holed in your industry (23:15) Building your brand on authenticity (26:33) How to make decisions based on the opportunities that come to you (26:50) If you enjoyed this episode, check out the video show notes and more at http://lewishowes.com/861 and follow at instagram.com/lewishowes Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX
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0:00 Lewis Howes? This is Five Minute Friday.
0:10 Lewis Howes? This is a very special episode. We've got Justine Ezarik. I always forget how to pronounce her last name because she never says it. It's just I Justine for the interwebs. And for those that don't know who I Justine is, you've probably never been on social media. She's a producer, actress, host, technology expert, and one of the most subscribed to personalities on YouTube. That's right. She has been nominated for two Teen Choice Awards and four Streamy Awards and is the winner of the People's Voice Webby Award for Best Web Personality Host. She has been named one of the Hollywood Reporter's 50 Most Powerful Digital Players, was called the Most Influential Person Online by Fast Company, and ranked number six on the Daily Beast 2012 Digital Power Index.
0:55 Lewis Howes? She is a powerhouse. And what I love about Justine is her authenticity. She is unapologetic in her expression and who she is. And she allows herself the permission to be goofy and silly and fun and creative and whatever she wants to be in the moment. And she has built up an incredibly large audience in the process.
1:23 Lewis Howes? How many subscribers do you have over all your channels on YouTube right now? Do you know?
1:26 Speaker 01 It's over 3 million because I really only count like the top three.
1:29 Lewis Howes? Okay, top three.
1:30 Speaker 01 Again, this is one of these things where I don't ever look.
1:32 Lewis Howes? Really?
1:32 Speaker 01 I don't because I don't want to know. No.
1:34 Lewis Howes? Why not?
1:35 Speaker 01 It's like as long as, because then it takes the fun away for it for me.
1:37 Lewis Howes? Really?
1:38 Speaker 01 I want to have fun. I want to create content. As long as I know people are watching it and enjoying it and coming out to meetups, like that for me is enough. And so many of my friends, I see them so obsessed with numbers.
1:48 Lewis Howes? Stats.
1:48 Speaker 01 I'm like, I can't hang out with you because I don't, I don't want to hear how you. Kind of deal with this world.
1:55 Lewis Howes? Right.
1:55 Speaker 01 I mean, I think I'm very different in that sense.
1:57 Lewis Howes? So what's your vision then for your growth strategy for or just for your strategy in general for what you're creating? Just to have fun or do you have a vision of like, I want to hit 10 million subscribers or I want to make this much a year? Or do you not even think about that?
2:08 Speaker 01 I don't really.
2:09 Lewis Howes? As long as you make enough money that comes in, you're happy, you're not like focused on a big dream or big goal with that.
2:15 Speaker 01 No, and the weird thing for me is like setting goals is I always set these goals. I'm like, I'm bored. I don't want to do that anymore. And I find something else that's even cooler than that. And I've talked to a lot of people who have set these goals that they will do nothing until they achieve that. And they're so pigeonholed in getting to that goal, that there's other things that you could have been doing that are so much better than that.
2:34 Lewis Howes? So what are the things you want to be doing? And what's the, what's the dream for you then?
2:38 Speaker 01 Wow. I don't, that's, I don't know. I mean, I have so many things, like every day there's something else I want to do. And it's like, if I don't want to do that the next day, then I change.
2:45 Lewis Howes? You don't do it.
2:46 Speaker 01 Yeah. So, I mean, I know I'm going to be working on a movie, which is really fun.
2:50 Lewis Howes? Really?
2:50 Speaker 01 Yeah. And I think another reason I started writing the book too, is because I wanted to pitch sort of a web series idea based around my life. But nobody could really grasp their head around the crazy things that have happened. So it's like, I'm just going to put it in a book and then we'll talk.
3:03 Lewis Howes? I feel like it could be, you could be a reality show on MTV or VH1 or any of these networks.
3:08 Speaker 01 The problem with reality shows is they're not real.
3:10 Lewis Howes? Of course, I've done one.
3:11 Speaker 01 Even filming sort of my own stuff, like something funny will happen. I'm like, oh man, I'm like, my sister, her name's Jenna. I was like, you have to do it again. Because that was so funny.
3:19 Lewis Howes? So it's a reality show in itself.
3:21 Speaker 01 It is, but at least like, these are things that have actually happened. And a lot of times we just will film something and just leave the camera rolling because we know something funny will happen.
3:28 Lewis Howes? Wow.
3:28 Speaker 01 And I mean, for me, like, that's actually real. And I think there's a fine line between what is real and what's not real for a lot of YouTube vlogging type people. And the internet can see through it. I mean, they're so perceptive and they're so used to seeing people that they know and trust. And if you deceive them, you are gone. I mean, that is one of my biggest goals is to never upset my core audience. And any brands that I work with, it's something that I love. It's something that I would have probably talked about anyway. And thankfully I'm actually able to get a sponsorship for it. So I can survive.
3:57 Lewis Howes? Right. So being authentic and being you is the most important thing. So what do you, how do you make your decisions based on the opportunities that come in? The brand opportunities, because I'm sure you get a lot of companies that say, you know, can you put this on your YouTube channel or promote this? What, how do you know, uh, what's your gauge of saying yes or no? Or, you know, if it's going to resonate for you and your audience?
4:17 Speaker 01 I mean, it's just something if I can, you know, integrate it organically, like the Steak and Shake thing, like they sent me to Indy 500. I knew nothing about racing, had no interest in it, but I was like, I love Steak and Shake. And now I'm a huge IndyCar fan. It was so much fun. So it's like, I mean, I like to agree to these random projects, even if I think it might be something that I might not be into.
4:35 Lewis Howes? Sure.
4:36 Speaker 01 Because it's fun, sort of taking my audience along that ride of, I don't know what I'm doing. Watch me potentially maybe fail. So it's fun.
4:43 Lewis Howes? And do you get all these opportunities yourself? Or do you have an agent now that represents you and tells you what to take or brings you deals?
4:49 Speaker 01 I mean, I do. I do have an agent, I have a manager and like a whole squad of people, which is amazing, but it's still like, the deals will still come to my inbox.
4:56 Lewis Howes? Right, right, right.
4:56 Speaker 01 It's like, you emailed me, you tweeted me. And I think that's amazing, because it's like, I can still make those decisions. And again, you know, it's, it's our brand, it's us, it's people. And, you know, I'm not gonna have somebody else tell me what I should do.
5:08 Lewis Howes? Sure.
5:09 Speaker 01 That's why I quit my job. That's why I'm here.
5:12 Lewis Howes? Right, that's cool. But if you don't have a vision of like, how much you want to make, then are there just months where you're like, I don't feel like doing anything because I have enough money? Or, you know, how do you really make that decision of like?
5:21 Speaker 01 Well, I definitely want to make more each year.
5:23 Lewis Howes? Okay.
5:23 Speaker 01 So that's, that's nice.
5:24 Lewis Howes? Well, you say that, so I wasn't sure.
5:25 Speaker 01 Okay, yeah. Um, but there are times where I'm like, I don't want to film anything. And it is that, that authentic sort of, I guess vibe, because if I don't feel like filming, it's gonna be very obvious. So like, even I was supposed to film some stuff this weekend. I'm like, I have to push this video because I don't feel like it.
5:42 Lewis Howes? You're not in the mood, you're not ready, yeah.
5:43 Speaker 01 And it's, you know, it is, it's stressful. I mean, a lot of people don't understand that. It is emotional. And, I mean, there is that impact where it's like, I'm so exhausted. I physically cannot bring myself to even turn the camera on.
5:54 Lewis Howes? Gotcha. Well, I appreciate you coming here to do this.
5:56 Speaker 01 Yeah, no, it's great. No, I'm good. I slept all weekend. I'm feeling wonderful.
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