#2414 - Brian Simpson

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• 0:12Joe Rogan?

  Did you watch it? Did you watch the UFC? No. Oh, my god, dude. Islam Makhachov. Fuck, dude goes up one weight class, goes up to 170. He was the 55-pound most dominant champion ever, most titled defenses at 55 ever. Just dominates at 170. Like, every round. People are saying it's boring, but, listen, man, it's boring if you're a casual. The fact that he was able to do it every round, it was a little frustrating because you wanted Jack to try to adjust, but he couldn't, man. Islam shut his game down right away. He low-kicked the shit out of his front leg real quick, had him limping, real quick. Like, within the first round, he had hit it three or four times, bad.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  Imagine being Khabib, you know, just your protege is just coming in.

• 0:59Joe Rogan?

  Khabib's even better than him.

• 1:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:01Joe Rogan?

  That's what's so crazy, that's how good those guys are. But Khabib, he's not better stand-up, though. Islam has really good stand-up. Like, his stand-up, Khabib's stand-up was a means to an end. It was like, his stand-up was to crack you so he could get a hold of you, fuck you up, just drag you to the ground and smash you. That was Khabib's move. But Islam is fucking KOing people, man, it's different.

• 1:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24Joe Rogan?

  He's different, he's head-kicking Volkanovski, that's a, it's like a different level of stand-up.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, Khabib's saying, "You're gonna be better than me."

• 1:31Joe Rogan?

  Crazy, crazy.

• 1:33Speaker 01

  Them Dagestan-y boys is here to stay.

• 1:34Joe Rogan?

  You know what's crazy, dude? Bilal Mohammed, you know, who was the champ at welterweight, went down to Dagestan to train with those guys, and he was like, "I thought I trained hard, I really did. I thought I trained hard until I trained with those guys."

• 1:46Speaker 01

  That's all, I'm gonna follow it, if I ever have a son, I'm just dropping him, as soon as he's hit puberty, I'm dropping him off in Dagestan.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  They leave him here, forget.

• 1:54Joe Rogan?

  That's the thing they always say. Take him to Daggastan, two, three years, forget.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, for real.

• 2:00Joe Rogan?

  For real.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  Then he comes, he comes back telling you what to do?

• 2:02Joe Rogan?

  How are you gonna fuck with that? Cause that's real. That's how those dudes are really rolling out there. That's how they're really living. They're, they pray five times a day. They're super religious. There's no gambling. There's no drinking. There's no partying. There's just training.

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Just training.

• 2:17Joe Rogan?

  Just training and training with a bunch of fucking animals. Eating together, training together, just getting after it every day. And then it's iron sharpens iron. Cause everyone who comes out of there is a fucking killer.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:33Joe Rogan?

  Crazy.

• 2:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, you, you gotta be real.

• 2:35Joe Rogan?

  You, no, mo- most people don't wanna live that life.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, and they don't forgive the disrespect.

• 2:40Joe Rogan?

  No. No, they just fucked Dylan Dennis up this past weekend. Did you see that?

• 2:45Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, there was a fight in the crowd.

• 2:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48Joe Rogan?

  They don't forget.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  You gotta watch what you say.

• 2:50Joe Rogan?

  Bro, and they're, you know.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Them Daggastanis, they not talking shit for promotional purposes.

• 2:54Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 2:56Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  You gotta be real careful.

• 2:57Joe Rogan?

  No, that's down in the marrow of the bones.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  Do you think that, that there would ever be, like, do you think Connor could ever apologize to Khabib and like bury the hatchet? Was it too?

• 3:06Joe Rogan?

  He would have to, it would have to be in private and he would have to really mean it, man, you know? He would have to really mean it and you'd have to convince Khabib that you really meant it. And that it was all, you know, cause he just doesn't play that game, that talking shit to sell a fight game. He doesn't play that game.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Especially when it comes to like his wife, his people.

• 3:26Joe Rogan?

  Everything, man, everything.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  I saw a clip of DC saying like, he did, he had like Connor on his show one time and Khabib was like, no, what's that about?

• 3:35Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, that's my enemy.

• 3:37Joe Rogan?

  Right, and you're my friend, yeah.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  And, and, you know, DC was like, oh, yeah, I had to, I didn't look at it that way, but I had to check myself, like.

• 3:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, cause you're, if you're a journalist, if you're, or if you're doing a podcast, you're gonna have some people on that don't like people that are close to you. But you gotta, like, that can only go to a certain level. You know, if someone is your, like, sworn enemy

• 3:57Speaker 01

  Oh, right, right.

• 3:57Joe Rogan?

  And this other guy's your training partner and your brother, you can't really have that guy on.

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, of course not. Absolutely not. Like, there's, there's no scenario where, where Khabib is gonna be friendly with Jon Jones. Cause he knows the history. Like, he might be respectful, but he, he ain't gonna catch him kicking it.

• 4:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 4:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think Jon and DC have pretty much buried the hatchet.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  Really?

• 4:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I think they have. I think they communicated. I think they, I think they've had some interaction. You know, it's like, look, when you have two bitter rivals like that, and one guy comes out on top, this is always gonna be that way. Always, forever.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, cause they're different kinda people. I, I, I forget that sometimes. Like, the competitive, the people that are like ultra-competitive.

• 4:40Joe Rogan?

  Totally different kinds of human beings, man.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Doesn't go away.

• 4:42Joe Rogan?

  Their drive is, it's like, you don't understand it. You don't live it, you know? And like, wrestlers, like, elite wrestlers are the only people that train the way like Khabib and his crew train. Like, in, in any other combat sport, like, if you're coming over from kickboxing and, you know, and then you wanna fight MMA, and, you know, you think, well, I've already trained like an animal already, like,

• 5:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:12Joe Rogan?

  There's a difference. There's a difference in the kind of exhaustion that you get from like hardcore wrestling training. And that's something that these guys have, that, it's like, that's why wrestling is the number one base for MMA. Cause anybody who gets really good at wrestling, you gotta be a fucking animal. You gotta be a fucking animal.

• 5:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. I wrestled in high school for the first couple of years, and it was like, I was like, this ain't for me. You know? It was, it, it was hard, it's hardcore, man, like,

• 5:40Joe Rogan?

  So hard.

• 5:40Speaker 01

  It's, it's, because besides the technique and stuff, you have to be able to suffer. You're training to suffer.

• 5:47Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. And they break you all the way down, every single practice.

• 5:51Joe Rogan?

  Training to suffer, and then the losing weight. The losing weight and competing on the same day, you know? I, I went to school with this kid, he was five-six. All his brothers were like six foot, six foot one. It's cause he wrestled all throughout his childhood and cut weight all through his childhood. He essentially starved himself and stunted his growth.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, my, my friend Jeffrey, um, you know, Bernard used to work at the club? He, uh, he used to perform at the club, but he, he was a wrestling guy, you know? Did real well in California and all that. And now he like, he doesn't, he doesn't know when he's hungry.

• 6:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  You know, like he's, he just has to eat because he's like, oh, I haven't eaten in. But.

• 6:31Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  His, whatever connection it is like.

• 6:33Joe Rogan?

  He broke it.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, like he'll forget to eat.

• 6:35Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like that, that, it could really fuck with you.

• 6:39Joe Rogan?

  So usually it fucks with guys the other way. Where they cut weight too long and then they just blow up like balloons when they don't have to fight anymore. They get crazy and they just can't stop eating. They develop really eating disorders. It's like, it's really common amongst guys who cut weight.

• 6:51Speaker 01

  Well, that's when I quit. I quit, I did, I did a tournament and uh, and it was, it was the first tournament. My brother was coming to see me and uh, and, and I missed weight by a pound or something like that. And so I ended up, I still got to wrestle, but it was like the, all the, in the loser's bracket or wrestle the, you know, people off on the side. And there was a guy that he had on what I know now is an insulin pump, but I didn't know at the time.

• 7:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you told me this.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. And he just kept fucking me up and, because I didn't, I was scared to hurt him and he didn't give a fuck about me. And I got my ass whooped and then, and then when it was finally all over, I was like, huh. And I went to the vending machine and I, I fucking opened the Snicker bar and I was like, ah. And my coach came over, he was like, what the fuck are you doing? You know, I was like, uh, well, the tournament's over. He was like, you missed weight and you gonna come over here and get snacks? And it was, and I was one of them kids where like, I was just defiant and I was like, fuck you. You know, and that was the last time, that was the last time he saw me. I was like, ah, you know, because of.

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• 10:54Speaker 01

  If that's what this is gonna be, I can't do it.

• 10:57Joe Rogan?

  No snacks after losing.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, especially missing weight. I mean, he, looking back, he had a point.

• 11:03Joe Rogan?

  How much did you miss it by?

• 11:04Speaker 01

  A pound. I missed about, because, because, because you know, it's like, you can't, it's certain households where like, you, you know, my mom, my mom didn't give a fuck about no making weight, you gonna eat that food. You know, it wasn't like, I didn't have control over my diet.

• 11:18Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:20Joe Rogan?

  So then you just have to run it off.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, run it off.

• 11:23Joe Rogan?

  You ever figure out how much calories you actually, like, burn when you do a hard workout? It's not as much as you think. Like, this dude, I forget what he ate, but he had some crazy meal with like, fucking pancakes, pizza and all kinds of shit, like, ten thousand calories or something like that. And then he went running to burn off the calories and he tracked it like on an app. He ran for ten hours. He ran like thirty miles. Because he was, yeah, dude's in really good shape. But when he did this, like, he was tracking, like, where his, his cal, how many calories he had burned so far. And it took him like a marathon, like thirty hours of running.

• 12:04Speaker 01

  To, to, to burn off a thousand calories?

• 12:07Joe Rogan?

  Thirty miles, rather. Thirty miles of running. No, it was more than, it was like ten thousand calories. Whatever it was. You know, I forget what he ate. It was like pancakes and all kinds of crazy shit. Very calorie, but the purpose was, like, to see what happens if you eat all this stuff, like, what does it actually take to burn this off? So he measures all the calories and then he just goes out running.

• 12:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of disappointing when you realize.

• 12:29Joe Rogan?

  It takes a long time. It takes a long time to burn off ten thousand calories. Like, that's a lot of working out.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  That's why I'm, I know I'm gonna stay fat till I die.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  You know, I, because I, I got this, I got this Rome machine and then like, it tries to tell you how many. It is, it is more discour, discouraging than anything. I had to turn that shit off.

• 12:50Joe Rogan?

  Did you lose any weight when you did that carnivore diet for a month?

• 12:53Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:53Joe Rogan?

  How much did you lose?

• 12:55Speaker 01

  Um, I don't know, maybe like ten pounds.

• 12:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, imagine if you did that for like six months.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 13:01Joe Rogan?

  Do you think you could?

• 13:02Speaker 01

  The diet is everything.

• 13:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the whole way to lose weight. You don't really lose weight in the gym. I mean, you do, you lose a little weight, your body gets toned, you get healthier. That's all good, but the real way you lose weight is your diet.

• 13:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, it's just discipline.

• 13:15Joe Rogan?

  Uh, it's hard.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  You know?

• 13:16Joe Rogan?

  It's hard.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  It was easier when I was poor.

• 13:21Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 13:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:22Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 13:23Speaker 01

  It's, it's, cause I always, I try to tell people this, but it's like,

• 13:28Speaker 01

  when you, when you're your own boss, you can't also be a shitty employee.

• 13:33Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  You know? Like, I'm the one setting the rules, but I'm also the one enforcing the rules, and I'm like, you're good.

• 13:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's funny.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Get it next time.

• 13:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you almost have to create a boss in your brain for like certain things that you have to do. Like a general, just tells you what to do.

• 13:49Speaker 01

  Yes, sir!

• 13:50Joe Rogan?

  You just fucking go do it.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:52Joe Rogan?

  Gotta be a robot.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  David Goggins could, could definitely sell an app, just a motivational app.

• 13:57Joe Rogan?

  He could, but...

• 13:58Speaker 01

  Just calls you a bitch every morning?

• 14:00Joe Rogan?

  I mean, really, all you need to do is just go watch his videos. If you wanna get motivated, just go watch that guy's videos.

• 14:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, do people ever go, like, just go stay with him?

• 14:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's done that before. David Ayler, is that who it was? No, what was his name?

• 14:18Joe Rogan?

  The, yeah, the dude that wrote the book? Fuck, I can't believe I can't remember his name.

• 14:22Speaker 01

  Like, he's on some, like, Diamond Dallas Page shit, where like he'll just...

• 14:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, he, not, not really. This dude was writing a book, Jesse Itzler? That's it. Stayed with him, and, you know, David's like, alright, we're gonna train. And, you know, you're gonna do whatever the fuck I tell you to do, and we're gonna do it. I forget how many days he did it for. He wrote, he wrote a book about it, right? Like, Living with a Navy SEAL? I think, I think he did it for like thirty days.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  You probably gotta pass a physical, just to...

• 14:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, you could die. You could definitely die. You could definitely have a heart attack.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  But see, that's the thing, he don't care if he die.

• 14:58Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, remember, he, he had something, something happen, some kinda heart thing?

• 15:02Joe Rogan?

  Rhabdomylosis. He had rhabdomylosis. He's had a bunch of things. He's had heart surgery. But he had rhabdomylosis that he got, because rhabdo is when you push yourself so hard. Let's put that into perplexity, our sponsor, and find out exactly what rhabdomylosis is. Cause I'm gonna fuck this up.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  What is perplexity?

• 15:21Joe Rogan?

  We got an AI sponsor.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  No bullshit.

• 15:23Joe Rogan?

  Perplexity, yeah.

• 15:24Speaker 01

  Was it like a doctor?

• 15:26Joe Rogan?

  No, it's a, it's an AI. It's an AI, um, large language model and it gives you answers. Um, so process is when muscle tissue damaged by trauma, excessive exercise, prolonged immobility, metabolic or genetic disorders, infections, toxins, or certain medications. So obviously in David Goggins's case, excessive exercise. So the muscle cell breaks down, substances like myoglobin, creat- uh, creatine, kinase, electrolytes and enzymes leak into the blood. Myoglobin filtered by the kidneys can cause urine to turn dark brown or red and in large amounts can cause acute kidney failure. So when your piss starts looking like Diet Coke, that's when you know you got a problem.

• 16:09Speaker 01

  I think you just gave Hollywood the worst idea.

• 16:11Joe Rogan?

  Nah.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  Instead of people coughing into a napkin so you know they're sick, they're gonna be taking a piss that's gonna turn with syrup.

• 16:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's only if someone works out so hard that your body's breaking down. That's really what it is. Like you're literally working yourself to death.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, but then this, then this crazy motherfucker finished the race.

• 16:28Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Went to the hospital. He went to the hospital, recovered in the hospital, went back to the exact spot where he stopped and completed the race. And then did like a hundred pushups at the finish line.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  So you just went to the hospital for doing extra.

• 16:44Joe Rogan?

  You just can't, you know, you just have to accept that's who he is.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 16:48Joe Rogan?

  That's who he is. He's got no knee cartilage. He still runs. He's just a different, he's a different human. But again, it's like the Dagestan thing. Like there's levels to discipline and commitment and those guys have, it's a very high, it's also like very high level training too. It's not just discipline. It's like they're very technical. Abdul Manap, who is, uh, Khabib's dad, was a phenomenal trainer. Just, just phenomenal.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  But where did, where did he learn all of this?

• 17:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's all, you know, Russian Sambo and they all have like a long history of, like, I, I think his dad, let's, let's, let's Google this just to make sure I'm not speaking out of my ass. But, you know, you gotta think of like sambo or combat sambo is that's where Fedor Emelianenko came from too. So Russian sambo is like MMA, but they wear like a judo gi top and they have shorts on and wrestling shoes, MMA gloves and fucking headgear. And they have combat sambo championships. They throw each other using the gi, they have ground and pound, they're kicking and punching. It's a crazy sport.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  So it's like judo mixed with?

• 17:58Joe Rogan?

  It's like judo mixed with MMA.

• 18:00Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 18:01Joe Rogan?

  But they're wearing wrestling shoes. Like it is, it's really kind of crazy.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  But there's no ground and pound?

• 18:05Joe Rogan?

  There's ground and pound, yeah. It's basically kind of MMA. So Abdulmanov, uh, he was named by the Russian Book of Records as the most successful combat sambo coach in the country. Uh, so he was the head coach of Eagles MMA, coached two UFC champions, his son Khabib Nurmagomedov as well as Islam Makachev. Uh, but, so he practiced from a young age while serving in the Soviet Army, Soviet Army, began to practice judo and sambo. First big success as a coach came to his brother. Nurmagomed Nurmagomedov won at the World Sambo Championship for Ukraine's national team in 92. He trained a total of 18 world champions through his coaching career. That's how good that guy was. 18 world champions. That's crazy.

• 18:50Joe Rogan?

  Show, show him a video of combat sambo. Like, um, how about, show Fedor competing in combat sambo. It's kind of crazy when you see him, because he was competing in combat sambo, I believe, while he was also fighting in MMA. He was still competing for Russia in combat sambo.

• 19:07Speaker 01

  And there's a difference between combat sambo and some other kind?

• 19:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, there's sambo, which is like, um, just the grappling art of sambo, but like, look at this. They, they're fighting with punches, with the grappling gi on and shoes on. This is crazy, right?

• 19:23Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 19:24Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that nuts? They got wrestling shoes on, shin pads.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  Oh, no knees.

• 19:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Um, they can't throw knees here? Is that what's going on? I don't know. I don't know what the rules are.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  Because I feel like if they, if they could, he would have thrown them like that.

• 19:37Joe Rogan?

  Pretty crazy, man. So that's Fedor when he was world champion in MMA. Maybe the greatest of all time. He's definitely in the argument of the greatest of all time.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  Fedor?

• 19:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's, the argument is him came Velazquez for heavyweight.

• 19:54Joe Rogan?

  Francis Nganu and John Jones now, uh, that he's a heavyweight, but he hasn't really, the only heavyweights that he really beat, he beat Stipe when Stipe was kind of at the end of his career and he beat Gahn, but he caught Gahn in the guillotine real early. Clearly, one of the greatest fighters of all time, but the argument of him being the greatest heavyweight, he's only got two heavyweight fights. Um, then the other guy, um, is Fabrizio Verdoom. Fabrizio Verdoom, on paper, has one of the best arguments because he tapped everybody. He tapped all the world champions. Fabrizio, and people forget, man, because they only look at a guy when the guy's lost. Like MMA fans, once someone loses and they start, they have a few losses in a row, people forget how good they were when they were in their prime.

• 20:39Joe Rogan?

  And Fabrizio Verdoom, in his prime, tapped Fedor Emelianenko, Cain Velasquez, and Minotaro Noguera.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  And, and-

• 20:48Joe Rogan?

  Which is crazy.

• 20:49Speaker 01

  What you saying there's a window, right? Was it nine years?

• 20:51Joe Rogan?

  It's about nine years. When fighters can compete at their best.

• 20:54Speaker 01

  But I feel like that heavyweight window gets shortened real fast.

• 20:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it gets short.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  What's the most defenses in a heavyweight?

• 21:01Joe Rogan?

  It's Stipe. Stipe has the most.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  Two or three, right?

• 21:04Joe Rogan?

  Uh, let's find out.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  It's just three.

• 21:05Joe Rogan?

  Stipe Miocic is the, he's the consensus most successful heavyweight of all time. You could say maybe he's the greatest of all time. You know, it's all when you catch him. I mean, the guy got through Francis in that first fight when Francis was just like taking people's heads off, like they were attached with sticky glue.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  With three, yeah, three.

• 21:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, three.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  You would think it would be more than three, right?

• 21:26Joe Rogan?

  No, man.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  Cause like, cause, cause every, all the other weight classes, like, uh, uh, what's light heavyweight? It's like five?

• 21:33Joe Rogan?

  He's got four. Hold on, scroll back up. Oh, this thing was three in a row. Yeah, three in a row, but he's got the most titled defenses. Scroll back up, please. This episode is brought to you by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. A nice cold happy dad is low carbonation, gluten free, and is easy to drink. No bloating, no nonsense. When you're watching a football game, or you're golfing, watching a fight with your boys, or out on the lake, these moments call for a cold happy dad. People are drinking all these seltzers in skinny cans that are loaded with- Sugar, but Happy Dad only has one gram of sugar in a normal sized can. You can buy Happy Dad on the GoPuff app and your local liquor and grocery store, including Walmart, Kroger, Total Wine and Circle K.

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• 22:55Speaker 01

  All right, because he took the belt back from Cormier.

• 22:57Joe Rogan?

  Right, and then defended against Cormier and then defended against Francis, which was the craziest one.

• 23:05Speaker 01

  And then lost it to Francis.

• 23:06Joe Rogan?

  No, no, defended against Francis. Oh, no, no, I fucked this up. It defended against Francis, then got knocked out by Cormier. Cormier knocked him out after the Francis fight.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  No, you're absolutely right.

• 23:17Joe Rogan?

  Then they fought a second time and Stipe beat him, stopped him. That was the time when he was hooking him to the body.

• 23:24Speaker 01

  Body shots, yeah.

• 23:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. He had that beautiful left hook to the body that he just had wired. So he beat Daniel, beat Daniel again. He beat him by decision in the third fight. And then in the next one, he fought, scroll up, in the next one, he fought Francis again and got KO'd. That was a brutal one. And then John Jones hit him with that brutal, beautiful spinning back kick to the body.

• 23:48Joe Rogan?

  But it's like, he's in the argument too, one of the greatest of all time. My thing about Fabricio though is like, people forget like how hard it is to submit a guy like Fedor Milianenko or a guy like King Velazquez. And to be the guy that submits all, like, out of the guys who you consider possibly all time greats, he submitted three of them. That's nuts.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  When the Velazquez first came on the scene, I thought nobody was gonna be able to beat him.

• 24:13Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he was a monster, because he was a heavyweight with cardio like a lightweight. It was nuts. Nothing like that.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, but everybody, everybody has their day, man. Yeah, there's nobody that's gonna beat him.

• 24:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, what happened with Kane is he didn't adjust to Mexico City. So, they had a fight Kane and Fabricio fought in Mexico City. And Mexico City, I think, is like 7,000 feet above sea level.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  Word?

• 24:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Put that in there. Let's see what Plexiti says about that. I'm pretty sure that's the case, though. I think it's about 7,000 feet above sea level and it's real thin air. Also, it's a lot of pollution. So, it's not like the best air. Like, it's, it's not much air and it's polluted. And Fabricio got there way early, like months, months in advance. Uh, 7,350 feet, yeah, above sea level. So, real, real high altitude already. So, your cardio is already gonna be taxed if you're a heavyweight.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 25:13Joe Rogan?

  That's 2,000 feet above Denver.

• 25:14Speaker 01

  But why didn't he go? Did he have a good reason?

• 25:16Joe Rogan?

  I think there was some domestic issues.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 25:20Joe Rogan?

  I think someone didn't want him leaving, you know? He got, he only got a chance to be out there, I think, for two weeks and that's not enough time.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  That's not even close.

• 25:30Joe Rogan?

  Not even close. Uh, Fabricio was up there, I think, for six months. I think they told him that he was gonna be fighting for the title and I think he went up there for, I might be talking out of school, but it was many months. It was at least four months. And he was up in the mountains above Mexico City. So, he's like, fuck it, let's go 9,000 feet. Let's get crazy. And so, got accustomed to even higher altitude and then when he came down, he was in prime shape. And he caught Kane in the guillotine and submitted him. It was nuts. It was like seeing him, he's, like I said, he submitted three of the greatest of all time. Like, that, that alone, you gotta think. So, he showed up two months early. Verdun did his homework prior to the fight, showed up two months early

• 26:13Joe Rogan?

  and established a training camp in the mountains, conditioning his body to even higher elevation around 12,000 feet. So, I was wrong on both counts. It wasn't four months, it was two months and he was at 12,000 feet, which is fucking crazy.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's, um...

• 26:28Joe Rogan?

  He said, "For the first two weeks, uh, I was here, felt as if I'd never trained before at all. I was so tired." So if you got used to doing that, okay, so, okay, Kane only went ten days early. Oh, my god.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  I feel like that's some shit that George St. Pierre would do just for every fight.

• 26:45Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 26:46Speaker 01

  Get an oxygen deprivation tank or something.

• 26:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, BJ was doing that for a while. BJ Penn was sleeping in a tent. See, it was a plastic tent that he would seal off and would sleep inside of it. Like, you put it up around his bed and there was a thing that you, that sucked oxygen out of the air there and it made it like you were sleeping at high elevation. Apparently, that's the move. The move is sleep at high elevation, but train at low elevation. And the reason for that is when you train at low elevation, you have more oxygen, you can get more reps, you can put in more rounds, you can put in more work. So, and then the recovery is where you really want your body to be adapting. So then, once you're done training, go back up, like, say if you were training in, like,

• 27:33Joe Rogan?

  in, like, in the valley and then you went up to Big Bear and you were sleeping at Big Bear, which is like, I think Big Bear's like six thousand feet or something like that.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  But doesn't that only work if you're, if the fight is at, is not at elevation? Like, if you're fighting?

• 27:47Joe Rogan?

  No, no, the idea is sleeping at altitude is all you need. Sleeping at altitude gets your body, it's, the whole thing is about getting your body to sort of adapt to this new altitude.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  So if you just sleep at altitude, you can fight at altitude?

• 28:02Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 28:03Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 28:03Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. You'll have more oxygen, you'll have more, and you'll, you'll be able to work harder. Like, this, so, so it's like, they used to think training and sleeping at altitude is the move, but now they think actually it's probably better, and maybe this is debated. Um, I'm not sure if, like, the, the, there's a consensus is out, but I think what they're saying now is train at sea level and then sleep at altitude.

• 28:29Joe Rogan?

  Which makes sense. It makes sense.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's for people that's already training.

• 28:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  I've run out of breath just going up the altitude. That's why, that's why Denver, whenever you go to Denver, like I love doing comedy there, but it's so, it's so dry.

• 28:47Joe Rogan?

  It's dry.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  It's so dry, your boogers get sharp.

• 28:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, your nose starts to bleed.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, your skin is all flaky and shit.

• 28:54Joe Rogan?

  There's no air. And then, you know, you can get higher than that, too. You can go to Aspen, when they used to have the Aspen Comedy Festival. They used to have oxygen waiting for you backstage.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  Word?

• 29:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, in case dudes start fainting.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  Why'd they stop that?

• 29:09Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I think, you know, they stopped a bunch of those comedy festivals. They had, where was the original one? It was in Montreal. And then they started doing it in Aspen. And I think they did it in Vegas, too, for a while, if I remember correctly.

• 29:22Speaker 01

  It was the same people?

• 29:23Joe Rogan?

  But it's used to, see, those things used to be effective. It used to be, you would, you know, take time off the road, go to Montreal, do your best set. And maybe you'd get a development deal. And if you got a development deal, maybe you'd get a sitcom. That was a whole, that was the carrot that they dangled the end of the stick.

• 29:38Speaker 01

  Career-changing.

• 29:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like for some people, it was career-changing. It really was. Um, but that stopped. And then, so it was like, why are we going to these festivals? Because I'm not getting anything out of this, other than you selling tickets.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  Well, I think that, I think that, that's happened, that happened, what happened to most of the institutions in comedy, or just show business, period, is the people that used to be the tastemakers, the people that used to tell the business who was next.

• 30:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 30:06Speaker 01

  I think people get, because this happens all the time. There'll be some good, there'll be some, somebody will start a comedy show, then all of a sudden, somebody will get, make it from that show. And then it becomes the show in the scene, though, in the city. And then they start wanting to maintain that reputation. So instead of them just fucking with who they believe in, they'll wait to see who has a little momentum.

• 30:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 30:28Speaker 01

  So they, they kind of give it up. They, they wait for the industry to tell them who's popping.

• 30:33Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 30:33Speaker 01

  And, yeah, it happened to the store, it happened to JFL, it happened to all these places. And maybe people, maybe it's coming. Back now?

• 30:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, you also have to realize who are these people? They're just people that got jobs, working for whatever media company that is. Whether it's NBC, or Netflix, or whatever it is. They're just people that got jobs. They might not have any idea, like, how a joke is made, what the process is of developing material, who's got talent, who's derivative, they prob- they might not have any idea. But what they do is they lick their fucking finger, and they hold it up, in whichever way the wind's blowing, they pretend they're a genius, and that's what they do. And oftentimes, they'll dismiss someone who turns out to be the best one of the lot. It's real common, man. And then they always want to stand by those ideas, like, "Ah, I don't see it." And like, "Okay, the guy's fucking selling out arenas, I think you missed it."

• 31:25Joe Rogan?

  And, but it happens a lot.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:26Joe Rogan?

  It happens a lot with these folks, because they're, they're not artists. They're just business people, and they're pretending to be artists. It's weird, like, some of them give you advice.

• 31:35Speaker 01

  But some people do have, like, there's a, there's a, there's a talent for dealing with talent, that some people do have.

• 31:44Joe Rogan?

  Adam Eager.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:46Joe Rogan?

  Adam Eager's a perfect example. Because Adam is an artist, whose, like, job is to be a talent coordinator. But he's genuinely an artist, like, he's, he gets it. He's a, he thinks like a comic, he behaves like a comic. He was a funny co-host of Norm MacDonald's show. You know, when Norm had that show? Adam, Adam was on that show with him. Like, he gets it, he understands the business.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  He'll hit you, he'll hit you with a zinger from thigh to thigh.

• 32:10Joe Rogan?

  He's a funny dude.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, he got a couple in the chamber.

• 32:12Joe Rogan?

  He's a funny dude, but he's also a smart dude. Like, and, and he knows potential. He sees someone, and he can give them genuinely good advice. Like, genuinely, like, you could take this and develop it this way, maybe you need to work on this, maybe you need to, you know?

• 32:28Speaker 01

  But you know, more importantly, I think, he has, he has the courage of his convictions, where it's like... Like when I, when I first got to Hollywood, you know, I went over, you know, I went everywhere at least once or twice. And, you know, people, some people, you know, people like, come back next week, or, you know, you gotta wait till this time, or whatever. Everyone saw me, saw me at least once. Adam saw me, and he was the only person that was like, come back next week, like. Come on, you get a, you get a spot next week.

• 32:52Joe Rogan?

  Right, because he gets it.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 32:55Speaker 01

  And like, he started, he started fucking with me immediately.

• 32:57Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  And there wasn't any hesitation at all. It was from the time I met him, I was just getting spots at the store.

• 33:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, and so to, to, to do that, to have that belief in your, in your eye, you know, instead of needing other people's. Because of, because of how most of show business works is everybody is just, no one wants to be the first one on your dick, but no one wants to be the last one. So even if they see something they think is dope, they'll be like, does anybody else think it's dope?

• 33:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 33:23Speaker 01

  No? Okay, me neither.

• 33:24Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  You know, but then as soon as a couple of people think it's dope, then it was like, I all, I saw it six months ago. It's like, you know, it's that kind of shit. So.

• 33:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's why they're pretending they have talent. That's their talent.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  But the problem is, you don't have to have the talent talent to be in a position of that, to be in that position.

• 33:41Joe Rogan?

  No, you don't. You could just get a job and they need someone to do it, and if you sell yourself, and if you worked, you know, in production before, you did something and as an agent, or whatever the fuck it is, you're in the business.

• 33:51Speaker 01

  Or just suffer under some tyrant.

• 33:54Joe Rogan?

  Ha, there's a lot of that, yeah. There's a lot of that, a lot of suffering under tyrants. And then these guys, they wind up, you know, fucking ruining companies, because they don't know what, like, how many terrible specials have you seen that just fit the right demographic? Fit this like silly thing? Like, that was another problem that Adam was having at the store, is that like, he couldn't just give spots to the people that he thought was funny. It's, there was pressure to make a certain amount of gay people on the set, a certain amount of women, a certain amount of, they had like people telling him he didn't have enough of certain demographics.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  But where's the, where's the pressure coming from?

• 34:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I don't know. It was coming from, you know, I don't want to talk out of school.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 34:41Joe Rogan?

  But it wasn't just comics. There was, you know, people that were buying into it. And that's nonsense.

• 34:50Speaker 01

  My mind immediately went something silly like he just he just wakes up there's a dildo on his pillow. With a note. It's like.

• 34:58Joe Rogan?

  No, he was.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  You've been warned.

• 35:00Joe Rogan?

  He was being told. He's been told but and it's just like, you know, there's a lot of like vicious people in this fucking business. And if you're a guy and your job is working at a club and that's all you got. And, you know, all of a sudden that job is threatened because people are complaining about you and they think that you're not doing. Your best to make the lineup more diverse, which is like, it's so silly because this is. The thing that we always talk about in the green room, like, look how diverse that club is. There's everybody there, like all kinds of different kinds of people. And the idea that like. It's one thing, this is the the most dumb straw man that gets tossed around like it's all right wing comedy club. The vast majority of the people that work there are left wing people, vast majority.

• 35:45Speaker 01

  That's a fact.

• 35:46Joe Rogan?

  It's a fact.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:48Joe Rogan?

  And you can't like, you can't tie it down, you know, it's all white males, that's bullshit. There's all kinds of people there, there's Arabs and Muslim people, there's people from India, there's people from Asia. There's black people, white people, Australians, there's people from fucking everywhere at that club and just this one thing in common only.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  Well, I think that.

• 36:07Joe Rogan?

  Do you love comedy? Are you trying to get better? Are you funny?

• 36:10Speaker 01

  There is something to be said about. Being aware of your blind spots. But. I don't think that.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  The way Hollywood always does diversity is wrong. Because they'll go, instead of going to find, they'll go, we're missing this slice of the pie. And instead of going and finding the funniest people. They'll just pick anyone, you know? And I don't, I don't know if that always. This is almost never the best way to.

• 36:38Joe Rogan?

  It's never the best way. It's like the same thing for neurosurgeons. If you're like, you know, I'm really looking for a Danish woman neurosurgeon, like, no, no, no, you got, you have a brain tumor, like, no, no. I want to really want a Danish woman, like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You gotta get the best guy, the best guy's a Chinese guy, we found him, he was out of Harvard, this guy, no, no, no. Like, that's crazy and that's the same thing with everything, it's like, it should be a meritocracy and I think ultimately. You're gonna have examples of all sorts of different kinds of people that rise to the top in a true meritocracy.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  I mean, but the. Well, the pendulum always swings both back and forth, but it's almost never a meritocracy. You know?

• 37:18Joe Rogan?

  In comedy?

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Or just, I'm just talking about in America.

• 37:22Joe Rogan?

  Comedy is one of the only things where it's a genuine meritocracy.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  Well, when it comes to the crowd, you can't cheat, you can't cheat.

• 37:28Joe Rogan?

  You can't cheat?

• 37:29Speaker 01

  No.

• 37:29Joe Rogan?

  It's that, it is what it is, unless you're stealing. That's the only thing. If someone's a joke thief.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  Or unless you're a fucking hack, you know, you can, you can guess.

• 37:37Joe Rogan?

  You can get away with a lot, but you can't get away with a lot with your peers, right? You can't, like, your peers won't like you. They won't wanna be around, they won't wanna go on the road with you with your wack ass jokes.

• 37:47Speaker 01

  No? Unless you're super famous, people are just, people are just hold their nose and go on the road with you.

• 37:52Joe Rogan?

  There's a few, that's true. There's a few that will do that. But ultimately, though, when it comes to like sustaining a career and, and having, you know, years and years of people coming out to see you and multiple specials and stuff like that, it either, it either works or it doesn't work. It's, that's it. It's real simple. Like, once people find out about you, now you've got your foot in the door and it's all just about keeping it on the gas. Keep your foot on the gas and keep producing. Keep making stuff. Keep, keep writing. Keep working on sets. And you'll, you know, if you're working for those people, they'll keep showing up for you because you made them laugh.

• 38:30Speaker 01

  I hope that stays true. Because that's, it's the only thing I'm good at. You know, I'm bad at everything except writing, except my, my comedy. You know?

• 38:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, you're really good at your comedy, though. Some people never get really good at anything.

• 38:44Speaker 01

  But they, but I feel like every year, you have, you have to be good at something else.

• 38:49Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 38:50Speaker 01

  Editing, sketches, scripts, they want you to act, they want you to...

• 38:55Joe Rogan?

  Nah, you don't. You don't. You don't. Look at David Tell. Does one thing. Does one thing. Stand-up comedy. Everybody loves him. He's amazing.

• 39:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, fact.

• 39:04Joe Rogan?

  Does one thing. That's it. I mean, that dude doesn't even go on social media at all, which is the only reason why he's not selling out enormous arenas. When we had him at the club last weekend, everybody was like, dude, he's the best. He might be, he's one of the best of all time. And he's working clubs.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  I mean, a lot of people, a lot of people put him at the very top.

• 39:23Joe Rogan?

  He's up there, dude. It's like, it's kinda silly to rank comedians.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:28Joe Rogan?

  Right? And every comic that's alive today owes a debt of gratitude to the people that came before us. We all do, because it's a relatively new art form.

• 39:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I go, I go by joke, by joke, by joke. I don't really have a favorite comedian.

• 39:42Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 39:42Speaker 01

  But I, there's some bits out there where I'm like, that's fucking. And some of those come from, you know, a few of them come from the same people, but, but it tells one of those people where you just, sometimes you just walk.

• 39:53Joe Rogan?

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• 41:21Speaker 01

  Just in awe.

• 41:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  You know?

• 41:24Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  But I loved that. I love like getting to watch a comic to make you go, god damn, I need to just boil my shit up and fucking throw it away.

• 41:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the best feeling. That's, that's where the fire starts burning, gets you going. You need to feel that. That's why comics don't exist in a vacuum. You know, we were talking about this the other day, that we're, we were talking about like McCann, so McCann is in this thing where he might have to move. And we're like, bro, you gotta stay. Like, you're killing it and you're getting funnier. You're like funnier all the time. And I think one of the reasons why is what you're around. Comics don't exist in a vacuum. You're not gonna go to, like, South Dakota and find the best comic that no one's ever seen. The best comic in the world lives in South Dakota by himself. And he's, you know, he works at this little local comedy club and everybody comes to see him for miles around. No. The best comics are around other killers.

• 42:13Joe Rogan?

  You get to see a guy like Dave Attell go up and you're like, god damn. You get to see Shane Gillis go up, you go, god damn. You get to see Joey Diaz. You get to see all these fucking killers over and over and over again. And when you're around that, you see Ron White every week. Like, that's how you get better. Like, that's where it's at.

• 42:29Speaker 01

  McCann brings the heat.

• 42:30Joe Rogan?

  He brings the heat, dude. He's fucking talented and he's smart and he's a great guy and he's fucking just a curious, interesting thinker.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  And he's got a, he's got a, he's got a zany.

• 42:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  Delivery.

• 42:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 42:44Speaker 01

  Like, whenever I follow him, he always brings me up like he auctioned in slaves. He'll be like, "Bran, sexy." You know? He says my name like Leonardo DiCaprio in Django. "Bran." Watch, we gonna get it, we gonna get, we gonna get that on tape somewhere.

• 43:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we'll get that tonight. I'll bring him in tonight.

• 43:07Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, is he coming, is he coming in there?

• 43:09Joe Rogan?

  I think so. I think so. I gotta text him as soon as we get out of here.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Oh, speaking of the comedy, my Don't Tell shit came out this week. Go check it out, it's already out.

• 43:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's out this week?

• 43:17Speaker 01

  It was out last week, but it's, it's going, it's taking off.

• 43:20Joe Rogan?

  Nice, beautiful.

• 43:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like a, a couple of the clips, a couple million.

• 43:24Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. Go check it out, it's on YouTube, Don't Tell Comedy.

• 43:27Joe Rogan?

  That WAP joke is one of my all-time favorite jokes.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that's on my, that's on my YouTube channel.

• 43:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  So, yeah, it's a, yeah, we got a lot of stuff online, man. It's like, some people are like, I just now discovered you. I'm like, really?

• 43:40Joe Rogan?

  That's how it works, man.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:42Joe Rogan?

  There's so much shit out there.

• 43:43Speaker 01

  That's the thing, man. A mil, a million people can watch your shit and nobody saw it.

• 43:47Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that nuts?

• 43:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:49Joe Rogan?

  That's how many people there are that are online.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  There's people that are huge fans of yours that don't even know you do stand-up.

• 43:54Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 43:55Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? How's that possible?

• 43:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's just too many things to pay attention to. Like, how many times have you heard about an actor? Like, my, my kids will tell me about someone. And I'm like, who is that? And they're like, oh my god, that person's huge. I'm like, shut up, really? And then I go to their Instagram page, so they have thirty million Instagram followers. I'm like, how? Am I that old?

• 44:12Speaker 01

  It happens to me all the time. I've officially reached unk status.

• 44:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'm unk status, for sure. I'm like grandpa status. Grandpa Joe. Grandpa Joe doesn't know anything.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Cause I'm not looking, the thing is, I'm not at the point, like, I'm not looking for new stuff. So, if the kids don't tell me.

• 44:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'm not looking either.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  But then that makes me feel old. You know, they'll, yeah, they'll be, it'll be somebody that's like world famous, and I'm like, who the fuck is that?

• 44:34Joe Rogan?

  I know, yeah.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  I completely missed the, um, the Baby Shark thing. I just started hearing people talk about it in jokes.

• 44:42Joe Rogan?

  Baby Shark?

• 44:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, apparently it's like the number one YouTube, it's the most streamed YouTube video, right, Jamie?

• 44:50Speaker 03

  A couple of years ago, guys?

• 44:51Speaker 01

  But it's, it's still number one now, right? That's what I'm saying.

• 44:53Joe Rogan?

  Completely missed it. Baby Shark, doot doot doo doo. Oh, Baby Shark, doot doot doo doo. Yeah, that's right.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  I had literally hadn't heard that song. It had been out for maybe a year and a half, and I hadn't heard anything about it. I just heard a comic making jokes about it. And, you know, when something's in the pop culture, everyone be trying to have their own take on it. So then I heard another comic say a joke about it. I'm like, what the fuck is that? And sure enough, it's like, I completely missed it. How could I, I mean, I don't have kids, that makes sense.

• 45:19Joe Rogan?

  That's what it is. Okay, this is it? That video? That's a big video? I've never seen that video. The world's most watched YouTube video hasn't made its creator rich. What? How come? Hold on. A company behind ubiquitous song is hampered by ad restrictions on children's content, wants to raise funds for expansion. What does that mean? Raise funds? You had one viral video, you ain't a company.

• 45:43Speaker 03

  Sixteen point four billion views.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  Oh!

• 45:46Joe Rogan?

  And they can't make money?

• 45:47Speaker 03

  Says roughly equivalent to Taylor Swift's ten most popular YouTube videos combined.

• 45:52Joe Rogan?

  Whoa! Yeah, last year the company generated equivalent of about sixty-seven million dollars in revenue, including earnings from YouTube. But wait a minute.

• 46:00Speaker 03

  That's a lot.

• 46:01Joe Rogan?

  That's a lot. So it seems like they are making money. I don't understand. Is it saying the quandary underscores how certain restrictions, what, what, maybe scroll up a little? I think we must have missed something.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  No, we didn't miss anything yet.

• 46:13Joe Rogan?

  But why is it, it doesn't make any sense that the company hasn't made any money? It's saying they made money. But, am I, am I reading that wrong?

• 46:19Speaker 03

  Uh, revenue isn't the same as making money, though.

• 46:23Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 46:24Speaker 03

  Revenue is just money coming in, they could have.

• 46:26Joe Rogan?

  So their expenses are so high that?

• 46:28Speaker 03

  They could have spent a lot on ads to get it out there, that's what it could be going into saying, I don't know.

• 46:31Speaker 01

  No, but I'm guessing sixteen billion views probably should make you more than that, is that what they're trying to say?

• 46:36Joe Rogan?

  So revenue is your gross?

• 46:39Speaker 01

  No, that's how much money they made total, including what they got from YouTube, that's not just from YouTube.

• 46:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so they make money from other stuff?

• 46:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, they probably licensed it out and stuff like that.

• 46:49Joe Rogan?

  So scroll up so you see the little graph there, it says life, I mean scroll down, sorry. So, operating profit, revenue, so they're making a lot more money. Oh.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, but that's, that's South Korean won.

• 47:01Speaker 03

  I don't know, yeah, I just.

• 47:04Speaker 03

  Falling down the wrong hole.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  Nah, Joe's like, bring back the AI.

• 47:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know what that is, like, like that baby shark thing, like, why would, why would one thing catch like that?

• 47:18Speaker 01

  Cause it's, cause it's something for kids and people love ignoring their kids, you just play that, put that shit on and kids are obsessed.

• 47:23Joe Rogan?

  It can't just be that, because there's so many things that kids can watch. It can't be just that, it's gotta be, there's some, remember that banana song, banana phone? Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, banana phone.

• 47:35Speaker 01

  No, I never heard that before.

• 47:37Joe Rogan?

  It was like in the two thousands, it became like really popular, I think it was popular on Opie and Anthony, they kept playing it, it was like really catchy, totally innocent, and then it was like everywhere for like three or four weeks, and then it went away. And I always wonder, like, what, what the fuck is it where something just catches fire?

• 47:54Speaker 01

  I don't know, remember when Tickle Me Elmo? Cause what was the last time we had a viral holiday toy? Like where was the toy everyone had to have?

• 48:03Speaker 03

  It's not holidays, but those Labubus were pretty viral.

• 48:05Joe Rogan?

  Labubus are pretty viral, yeah, people love the Labubus.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  And I don't get it, why though? Are they, are they collectors, is this like?

• 48:11Joe Rogan?

  Because they know AI is about to take over the world, and then they know the aliens are landing and Jesus Christ is coming back, and they just, they're freaking out. They're just buying stuffed animals, they don't know what the fuck they're doing. They're just following the lead.

• 48:23Speaker 01

  So a Labubu is just a stuffed animal?

• 48:24Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, I hear about them, my, my brain shuts off.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  There's a little bit of gambling involved.

• 48:30Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 48:30Speaker 03

  It's a mystery. You don't know what's inside the box that you bought.

• 48:33Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute.

• 48:33Speaker 03

  And people can sell those boxes based off of what could be inside.

• 48:37Joe Rogan?

  Is it a stuffed animal?

• 48:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:39Joe Rogan?

  A stuffed animal, then you gotta gut your stuffed animal to find out what's inside of it?

• 48:42Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no. The box, like, it's in a, it's in a box, it's in a package, and then you don't know what's inside that package.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  Oh, so you just buy a Labubu without knowing which one you're gonna get?

• 48:48Speaker 03

  Right, right, right, right. And you might get a limited edition one inside.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  It's like a real-life loot box. That's a...

• 48:53Joe Rogan?

  A limited edition...

• 48:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like Beanie Babies without knowing what you got before, and you might get the Princess Di one.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  That's brilliant.

• 48:58Joe Rogan?

  You could get a limited edition Labubu.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  That's...

• 49:02Speaker 03

  And other than that?

• 49:03Speaker 01

  How much is the, how much is to buy a mystery Labubu box?

• 49:06Speaker 03

  It could be twenty bucks, it could be fifty, I have no idea.

• 49:08Joe Rogan?

  Let's take a guess, let's take a guess. How much do you think it costs to get a Labubu?

• 49:11Speaker 03

  Retail.

• 49:12Joe Rogan?

  Retail?

• 49:13Speaker 01

  I'm gonna say forty bucks.

• 49:14Joe Rogan?

  Forty bucks. Yeah, I think I'm with you. I was gonna say thirty-six.

• 49:19Speaker 03

  And after that, how much you think it is resale? Cause that's a...

• 49:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, a hundred fifty bucks.

• 49:22Speaker 03

  That's how much it costs to get them, yeah.

• 49:23Joe Rogan?

  I bet it's like, it's like buying one of them, like, a hot new car.

• 49:27Speaker 03

  So, retail's twenty-eight, twenty-seven ninety-nine.

• 49:30Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 49:30Speaker 01

  Okay, thirty bucks.

• 49:32Joe Rogan?

  And then what does it cost online, if you wanna buy one right now? I need a Labubu.

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Like a mi- a mystery?

• 49:39Joe Rogan?

  A mystery Labubu, what do I get? Are you Googling it?

• 49:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, it's gonna...

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Oh, no. I'll turn off my ringer.

• 49:44Speaker 03

  Up to eighty to a hundred twenty, it's not that bad. Oh, well, a few human-sized auction pieces, oh, that's big.

• 49:50Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Hundred thousand dollars.

• 49:51Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute. They have human-sized Labubus?

• 49:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, I didn't know that, that's...

• 49:54Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 49:55Speaker 01

  What?

• 49:55Joe Rogan?

  That is so ridiculous. I mean, what is someone doing with a human-sized Labubu? Who's fucking their Labubu? Cause you know someone is. Let me see what the Labubus look like. Is this something like a furry would fuck?

• 50:06Speaker 03

  Let me try to Google what is human-sized Labubu.

• 50:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, did you hear the latest that that dude who, uh, shot Trump, uh, might have been a furry?

• 50:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, I saw that, I found some more stuff.

• 50:16Joe Rogan?

  What? Yeah. I think he was a furry.

• 50:18Speaker 03

  Well, that's like an art piece, it's not really quite...

• 50:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh! Well, that's not really human-sized either.

• 50:23Speaker 03

  Human sized libubu doll sold for a hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

• 50:26Joe Rogan?

  Let me see what it looks like.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  But what they mean might have been a fraud. I feel like you would know or not know that.

• 50:30Joe Rogan?

  Um, they're finding stuff. Like, let's, let's find out.

• 50:34Speaker 03

  I don't know what this is.

• 50:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. There it is. There's the big libubu. Whatever.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  This lady invented them?

• 50:40Joe Rogan?

  She invented the libubu? How, again, how? How's that work? How's that catch on? How's that catch on? Like, Build-A-Bear's been in the fucking mall forever.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  I mean, I think I know what it is. It's probably some fucking hot, smoking hot, uh, K-pop star. Probably they saw her with one on. You know, there's certain women where they follow and anytime she does any fashion thing,

• 51:02Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  it, it just spreads like wildfire.

• 51:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a thing that does happen when an ever, a popular person starts like wearing a thing.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, they, they literally tricked all women into wearing di- and then wanting a diamond.

• 51:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, you remember when-

• 51:14Speaker 01

  Just looking at actress to do it.

• 51:16Joe Rogan?

  Judas Priest, um, had everybody dressing up like a gay motorcycle gang member?

• 51:21Speaker 01

  What?

• 51:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  That started with Judas Priest?

• 51:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Rob Halford from Judas Priest is gay. Like, openly gay. And now, at least, you know, I don't know if he was back then. But he dressed like a gay biker. Like, and that became like metal.

• 51:37Speaker 01

  Oh, word.

• 51:39Joe Rogan?

  Cause Judas Priest was so good, they wanted to dress like this gay guy who'd dress like a, a gay guy who'd go to like a gay biker club.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. It smells like hot women around the world. Cause dudes will do, dudes will do anything that,

• 51:54Joe Rogan?

  We'll get you laid.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  That they think, yeah, will get them laid. And, and women will do anything that a pretty woman does.

• 51:59Joe Rogan?

  That's true. Right. Anything to make yourself look prettier, too.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, and so it's like, cause all of the dudes now talking all that gay shit, they was dressing like that in the seventies or the eighties. Like earrings and makeup and purses and all of that.

• 52:12Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Bell bottoms, big collars.

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, cause they thought it was gonna get them laid.

• 52:15Joe Rogan?

  Flouncy shirts.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  You could dress like Prince. You could dress like-

• 52:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 52:19Speaker 01

  Little Richard and people-

• 52:20Joe Rogan?

  That's right.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Anything that works. Platform shoes, anything that works.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  Anything.

• 52:26Joe Rogan?

  Okay, Thomas Crooks used they/them pronouns, had obsession with political violence, and muscle mommies. Uh-oh, that's what I like.

• 52:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, what's wrong?

• 52:40Speaker 01

  I got like a woman that can move a couch.

• 52:43Joe Rogan?

  I do. Uh, the lone sniper who grazed Trump in the ear, killed a beloved firefighter, critically wounded two other Trump supporters, apparently had a muscle mommy fetish and repeatedly searched for videos about female bodybuilders and muscular women. But what was the, um, the furry stuff, though? I was reading some furry stuff. Um, Crooks had two accounts on, two possible accounts on DeviantArt, a site that hosts fan art, has become notorious for its community of furries. People who identify as anthropomorphized animal characters and/or, and/or are sexually attracted to them. They ever tell you about the time that I accidentally stumbled on a furry convention?

• 53:22Speaker 01

  No.

• 53:22Joe Rogan?

  Ha! We were flying into Pittsburgh, uh, for a UFC. Uh, one of DeviantArt accounts linked to Crooks shared just one post reposting of a towering, muscular female bodybuilder and a slight man in his underwear.

• 53:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm all of-

• 53:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah! That's like, uh, R. Crumb type stuff. Hilarious.

• 53:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't kink, I don't kink shame. Whatever make-

• 53:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't kink shame either.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  No.

• 53:47Joe Rogan?

  Have fun. Me and Duncan wore furry outfits once and-

• 53:51Speaker 01

  For the pod?

• 53:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and we had to take the hats off after like five minutes, like, respect the furries. He could walk around all day with his fucking thing on, it was heavy, it was hard to breathe, it was hot. We took it, oh yeah, that's what he likes. Yeah, baby!

• 54:04Speaker 01

  But who doesn't like that?

• 54:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know, some little dudes.

• 54:09Joe Rogan?

  Some little dudes don't want to be dominated. Don't want some man, some woman to use them like a dildo. Um, when I was, uh, so I was flying into Pittsburgh, we were flying in for a UFC, and, uh, we got a rental and we're driving to the hotel, and as we're driving to the hotel, I'm like, why are all these mascots on the street? The fuck's going on? It was real weird, like, we didn't understand what was going on. This is a while ago, like, at least 10 years ago. And we're driving and I'm like, what the fuck is this? Like, what's going on? We get to the hotel, uh, and I'm like, and I go to the guy behind the counter, I go, man, what the fuck is going on? He goes, it's a furry convention. Like, I didn't even, I kind of vaguely knew what a furry was, but I, I never really-

• 54:54Joe Rogan?

  Dove into it, you know? So I go, what are you talking about? He goes, it's a convention of all these people that get off on dressing like animals. I go, get off? He goes, dude, they're asking us to serve them food in bowls on the ground? Okay, then when they get room service, they want their room service in a bowl? They want it put on the ground so they can get on their knees and eat it out of a bowl? And they were asking for a litter box? I know a lot of people don't believe this, like, cause I told the story about a friend of mine who lives in Utah. His wife was a schoolteacher there. And one of the parents had a child that was a furry and they wanted to put a litter box in the bathroom.

• 55:33Joe Rogan?

  Now, this was entirely relayed to me by my friend, who it was relayed to him by his wife who worked in the school. I don't know if it's true, but everybody got so angry and they started saying what I was saying was transphobic. And I got so confused, cause I was like, this is a couple of years ago. I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, what does that have to do with trans people? We're talking about someone who wants to shit in a box, like, where's the trans part of this? So somehow or another, furries and that kink are getting like lumped into this LGBTQTAI plus whatever. And they're trying to like lump furries in there in this, this debunking of my conspiracy theory.

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Well, furries are their own.

• 56:18Joe Rogan?

  They're their own, that's what I didn't understand.

• 56:20Speaker 01

  And some of them is not sexual.

• 56:22Joe Rogan?

  But these guys, it was. When I was talking to the guy that worked behind the counter, I was like, what is going on? He goes, dude, he goes, apparently what these guys like to do is they have like a hatch on the back of their furry outfit. And they like to bang each other without even knowing who they're banging. All they do, they pretend they're banging a giant squirrel and they're into it. And it's apparently like part of the fun is that you don't have to think about your body. Maybe you're ashamed of your body, maybe you don't like your body, maybe you're just like, I'd rather someone just fuck me and think I'm a raccoon. And so that's what they do.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  See, I pray to God I don't find out that that's my kink because it's just too much work.

• 57:01Joe Rogan?

  It's a lot of work. The head is heavy, you know? Heavy is the head that carries the thrall.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's it. Any kink that requires maintenance.

• 57:11Joe Rogan?

  It's a lot of washing. You gotta wash that furry outfit. And if someone jizzes on it and doesn't tell you.

• 57:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, but then it might be a subsection of the community where they like it not washed. They wanted the dirty furries. They over there.

• 57:22Joe Rogan?

  Like an animal, like in the woods. They don't wash themselves. Come on, let's go. We're furries? Are we furries or are we men?

• 57:28Speaker 01

  I once had a, I used to work at this pub in San Diego. And one time we had, it was like a,

• 57:37Speaker 01

  it was like, I don't know if they're a subset of the furry world, but it's like, they're like My Little Pony people.

• 57:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do they call them? There's a name for that.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  Bronies.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Bronies.

• 57:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was like a whole documentary or something.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  And they were all very nice and respectful and you could see, you know, there were a handful of women involved and you could see everybody trying to angle for the, but they took, they just, they filled up our pub.

• 58:02Joe Rogan?

  And these are all the My Little Pony people?

• 58:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  There was a documentary that was like 10 years, 12 years.

• 58:07Joe Rogan?

  See, bro.

• 58:08Speaker 01

  And they hardcore. Like, they, they, they don't tolerate any teasing whatsoever. Like, if you try to come at them about it, it's gonna be a problem.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  You know, like.

• 58:20Joe Rogan?

  You gotta be able to take some teasing. If you want, if you want me to take you seriously?

• 58:24Speaker 01

  I'm telling you, bro, they gonna, they gonna throw hoofs immediately. They throwing hoofs.

• 58:29Joe Rogan?

  People will find a thing that they're really into, no matter what it is. They will find a fucking thing that they're really into.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  But that's the reason, that's why I don't kink shame, because I'm like, hey, man, if you, just be lucky that all the things that make you come are things you consider normal. You know what I mean?

• 58:45Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 58:46Speaker 01

  Cause I feel bad. Like, imagine if you found out.

• 58:49Joe Rogan?

  Right, that that was your thing?

• 58:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, you could only, you can only get off if you was dressed as a wolf. You know.

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• 1:00:29Joe Rogan?

  I think it's a psychological thing, where they don't like who they really are. I mean, that's, if I had to guess what the furry thing is, I don't think there's any well, I mean, I don't know. Maybe there's some well-balanced furries out there that just have a weird thing. But I think most of them just don't like who they are. And so they just want to hide in this thing that's all smiley and, "Hi, kids." You know, you look like a fucking, some sort of a giant animal.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  See, I have a theory. I think whatever, I think the first time you encounter something sexual, whatever's happening gets like burned into your shit.

• 1:01:02Joe Rogan?

  That's a, that's called imprinting.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, like I, I, I got a homie that, um, that's like into like, you know, the BDSM world and stuff like that. And he has no idea. And I was like, well, how did you know that? He was like, I have no idea. And then, you know, years later, without, completely unrelated, he's telling me one time about him looking for Christmas presents and going in the back of his parents closet and finding a whole chest of, you know, whips and chains and shit like that when he was like six or seven years old. He didn't make the connection. It was like, oh yeah, well, that's why you're.

• 1:01:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, duh. Parents into whips and chains and shit?

• 1:01:37Speaker 01

  And I don't know if that had to happen because I think your kinks are genetic.

• 1:01:41Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:42Joe Rogan?

  Why do you think that?

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  I, I think I've read that, right?

• 1:01:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think some information is probably passed down from parents to kids and I would imagine kinks could be in there. Cause like artistic talent is passed down. Obviously athletic talent is often passed down. It would make, I bet a lot of, I bet they don't know exactly what you're giving to your kids.

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  Well, well, let's, let's find out because if it's true, I mean, that's gonna make you look at your mama real different.

• 1:02:07Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:02:10Joe Rogan?

  You don't wanna know that. That's horrible.

• 1:02:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I.

• 1:02:13Joe Rogan?

  I like, I pity the poor people that have accidentally walked in and their parents fucking.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  You never did that?

• 1:02:20Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:02:20Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:02:21Joe Rogan?

  The horror.

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  No, actually, that's not true. I never, I never walked in, but I definitely knew that that's what was happening.

• 1:02:28Joe Rogan?

  I can block that out.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:02:30Joe Rogan?

  You can't block out the visual.

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  Cause you've definitely touched the doorknob and been like.

• 1:02:35Joe Rogan?

  Your dad with his feet up in your air, your mom eating his ass, like, no way.

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  No, I don't have no visuals.

• 1:02:40Joe Rogan?

  Your dad stroking it while your mom's eating his ass, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, see, there you go. I can't live anymore like that. I can't, I can't go through this where I'm gonna have to get electroshock therapy.

• 1:02:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, but, but imagine if you, if you, if you walk in and, you know, what, I mean, what would have to happen for you to be a furry? For, what would you have to see?

• 1:03:00Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it's that. I think it's, I think there's probably, there's probably some social disorder involved in some of those folks too. There's like furry lights, which uh, my kids go to school with. There's some kids that wear like, they wear like ears and like maybe a tail. And every now and then you see one of those.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  This brownie thing might have started as a four chan troll that spread too far and got out of control.

• 1:03:25Joe Rogan?

  Four chan rules.

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  Like a few other things have done, but I can't tell.

• 1:03:28Joe Rogan?

  They're the best. Do you see, do you see what they did with the free flow, a free bleeding project?

• 1:03:33Speaker 01

  What is that? Hold on, wait a minute.

• 1:03:35Joe Rogan?

  They tricked women into thinking that it's like a sign of feminism to just bleed and not have a tampon or a maxi pad.

• 1:03:42Speaker 01

  Oh, like old school?

• 1:03:43Joe Rogan?

  You just let it go. Free bleeding. And so they did it as a joke and then some women adopted it because they thought it was like, you know, radical feminist cuckoos, crazy ladies.

• 1:03:55Speaker 01

  So now free bleeding is like a trend?

• 1:03:56Joe Rogan?

  No, it didn't last. It's disgusting. It's probably totally unsanitary. You smell like fish. It's hell. It's hell. What is it? You have pussy blood running down your fucking pants and you're showing up at the office? You expect to keep your job here at United Health? Get out of here.

• 1:04:10Speaker 01

  I don't think anybody was showing up at no offices. These are, those are definitely chicks with no jobs.

• 1:04:14Joe Rogan?

  At Starbucks? You showing up at Starbucks? Oh, that's not real.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  No way.

• 1:04:19Joe Rogan?

  That lady would die. She would, she would literally be dead. That's like if you shot her with a fucking arrow.

• 1:04:23Speaker 01

  The, the thing is, there's no um.

• 1:04:26Joe Rogan?

  Is this lady free bleeding?

• 1:04:27Speaker 03

  These were the four chan posts of people trying to like share it. That it was real. I'm not putting this on this.

• 1:04:32Joe Rogan?

  But that could be a lady that's just doing a marathon and forgot a tampon. It's like, fuck it, I'm gonna push through. Cause I saw one lady who diarrhea'd herself. It went all down her leg and everything and she completed that fucking race.

• 1:04:42Speaker 01

  Well, the thing is, it's hard to tell what's real and what's AI.

• 1:04:45Joe Rogan?

  That's real. That's real. That's a little pussy blood right there. I can tell. I'm an expert.

• 1:04:50Speaker 01

  But, but the thing is, but free bleeding is one thing, but it's like, but just getting, getting your pussy blood every, onto other people's stuff?

• 1:04:56Joe Rogan?

  They don't care.

• 1:04:56Speaker 01

  Like if you're doing that shit at home or in the grass?

• 1:04:59Joe Rogan?

  They're marking their territory.

• 1:05:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, what did people do before they invented tampons? Like, I mean, are you supposed to just wash it out? Like, what are you supposed to do? What does nature want you to do? Like, nature doesn't want you... That's why toxic shock syndrome is a thing. When women have tampons and they leave them up there, and then they can get really sick, and women have died from toxic shock syndrome from tampons.

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  I don't think people even cared about...

• 1:05:24Speaker 03

  This is someone saying... I don't know if this... This might be full satire, but this is someone talking about how it's not made up and it's a real thing.

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  Like, 4chan people tried to claim this, they started this.

• 1:05:35Joe Rogan?

  Misogynic users of the online forum 4chan would claim that they jokingly started the movement in 2014 and see how far they could make angry feminists go. Fake memes and Twitter accounts apparently belonged to feminist activists began posting content about free bleeding. This backfired spectacularly for the 4chan trolls when they unwittingly created a discourse around the normalization of periods. What? The free bleeding movement, whether fake or not, quickly became very real and got women talking about their monthly cycle. Since then, notable moments in the free bleeding movement have included, uh, Karan Gandhi running the Boston Marathon without... Without something? While bleed... They missed something there.

• 1:06:18Joe Rogan?

  It says "without" while bleeding through her sport shorts. Uh, poet Rupi Kar also became notable in the movement when an image of her menstrual blood on her pants and bed sheets was repeatedly removed from Instagram that same year. Imagine, like, you're a hero 'cause your pussy blood is on the internet. This is... This is so kooky. This sounds like this is satire.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  That's what I thought it could be.

• 1:06:43Joe Rogan?

  Who wrote it? What's it in?

• 1:06:44Speaker 03

  It's a blog of...

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  I think you... I think you'll have a hard time convincing most women.

• 1:06:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, most, but these are crazy people. Like, most people don't want to fuck wearing a squirrel outfit. But crazy people do. Some people do. I'm not saying Fergie's crazy. What is the blog? And do they have other things that seem like satire? Cause that seems like satire.

• 1:07:04Speaker 03

  I'm checking real quick.

• 1:07:05Joe Rogan?

  It's hard to tell at the edges. When you get to the edges of radical feminism, radical leftism, and radical right wing, you know, Patriot Front type shit, it's hard to tell what's satire when you get to the edges. When you get to the most extreme examples of any movement.

• 1:07:19Speaker 01

  Well, also, everything's AI now. People just lie. People just say bullshit.

• 1:07:24Joe Rogan?

  Also, all those, whether it's the right wing movements, like Proud Boys, or whether it's Antifa, they get infiltrated. Those guys get infiltrated by government officials, 100 fucking percent. I guarantee you, there's some FBI agents in Antifa, and I guarantee you, there's some FBI agents that are in the Proud Boys. I think the head of the Proud Boys was already outed as an FBI informant. Isn't that true? I think that, find that out. Google that.

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:07:55Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  That's not shocking at all.

• 1:07:57Joe Rogan?

  I think.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  Every single movement gets infiltrated.

• 1:08:00Joe Rogan?

  I think he's still went to jail, too. I think he's still went to jail for January 6th.

• 1:08:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, they still locked up, uh...

• 1:08:08Joe Rogan?

  Let's see. Let's see, what does it say? "Had the Proud Boys revealed to have been an FBI informant, Enrico Tarrio. Tarrio served as the national chairman of the Proud Boys from 2018 to 2021, and was a central figure in the group's activities, including its role in a January 6, 2021 Capitol riot. However, it was later disclosed that Tarrio worked as an informant for federal and local law enforcement agencies between 2012 and 2014, prior to his leadership in the Proud Boys."

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  Oh, beforehand?

• 1:08:36Joe Rogan?

  That's even crazier. That's even crazier. Like, were they telling us the truth? Like, that he's not doing it anymore? It's like, fucking, who knows, man? It's layers upon layers. It's those Russian nesting dolls, and you open it, and there's another one in there, and you open, there's another one in there.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  Corruption's at all time. Bro, the Epstein files.

• 1:08:58Joe Rogan?

  I heard there's no files. I heard it's a hoax. And then all of a sudden, he's gonna release the files. Well, I thought there was no files.

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  Man.

• 1:09:05Joe Rogan?

  He wants an investigation now.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  Listen.

• 1:09:07Joe Rogan?

  Like, what is going on?

• 1:09:08Speaker 03

  They voted four hundred and twenty-seven to one.

• 1:09:10Speaker 01

  Who was the one?

• 1:09:12Joe Rogan?

  Who was the one?

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  Uh, he re- I didn't see why he said, but he did say.

• 1:09:15Joe Rogan?

  National security.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  No fucking way you gonna be the one.

• 1:09:19Joe Rogan?

  National security.

• 1:09:20Speaker 01

  If you found out, if you found out all of Congress voted for something and you the only one that didn't, can you change your vote? You can't be the one, guy.

• 1:09:28Joe Rogan?

  It should be, it should be that it has to be like, no one can know what the vote is before you do it.

• 1:09:33Speaker 01

  Bro, I would love to hear his reason. How you the one?

• 1:09:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, I was feeling like, let's move past it and let's get on with our business and...

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  Bro, you can't move past it.

• 1:09:42Joe Rogan?

  These billionaires are good people, okay?

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  You can't move past it.

• 1:09:45Joe Rogan?

  They're good, solid people. Who? Where's he at, Adam?

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  Arkansas.

• 1:09:52Speaker 03

  Louisiana?

• 1:09:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there he goes. Yeah.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  One of the bottom, one of the bottom ten in education or something like that.

• 1:09:58Joe Rogan?

  Somebody got to him. That's crazy, though. Four in and twenty to one.

• 1:10:03Speaker 01

  I have been a principal note on this bill from the beginning. What was wrong with the bill three months ago?

• 1:10:09Joe Rogan?

  It abandons two hundred and fifty years of criminal justice procedure in America. As written, this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people witnesses, people who provided alibis, family members, et cetera. If enacted in its current form, this type of broad reveal of criminal investigative files released to a rabid media will absolutely result in innocent people being hurt. Not by my vote. The Oversight Committee is conducting a thorough investigation that has already released well over sixty thousand pages of documents from the Epstein case. That effort will continue in a manner that provides all due protections for innocent Americans. If the Senate amends the bill to properly address privacy of victims and/or other Americans who are named but not criminally implicated, then I will vote for that bill when it comes back to the House.

• 1:10:53Speaker 01

  He's in that motherfucker.

• 1:10:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's a point, though, right? Like, there was people that had, like, people that had dinner over Epstein's house. Like, Epstein had dinners and had celebrities go over his house. Like, Chelsea Handler was one of the people that went over his house. I don't think Chelsea Handler is out there molesting kids.

• 1:11:08Speaker 01

  No, no, I get, I, no, I get that, but I think we're, we're past that. We're beyond that point now, because...

• 1:11:15Joe Rogan?

  Right, you just have to be able to say, hey, I went to his house for dinner.

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't, I'm not saying, because, because people try to do that to you with, like, pictures. They're like, if he was in a picture with somebody, they think, you know, but it's like... It's the difference between being in the picture with somebody and being in 500 pictures with them.

• 1:11:29Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  You know what I mean?

• 1:11:29Joe Rogan?

  And flying to an island with them.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I think the, uh, cause this is a big problem, I mean, related back to what we were talking about earlier with Hollywood too, is that I think a lot of, I think a lot of these motherfuckers don't respect the public. They don't respect our intelligence, you know, like I think the average American is smart enough to know the difference between somebody that was just in there or somebody that testified than somebody that was banging children.

• 1:11:52Joe Rogan?

  See, the thing is, the average American probably can tell the difference, but there are sub-average individuals that all they wanna know is you're on the list and they hear you're on the list and they might try to kill you. And that, that is a fact.

• 1:12:06Speaker 01

  Well, but, but here's the thing, the problem is-

• 1:12:08Joe Rogan?

  And I'm not advocating for not releasing the files, I'm just saying, there's enough dumb nutty people that will think that you're guilty.

• 1:12:15Speaker 01

  There, there's, there's been so much obfuscation with this, it would be different if they, if there was no pushback, but there's, I think, what's at stake is people's belief in the integrity of the process, you know?

• 1:12:28Joe Rogan?

  That's already cooked.

• 1:12:29Speaker 01

  Oh, well, yeah.

• 1:12:30Joe Rogan?

  That's already cooked.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  But whatever, whatever, the last little shreds of it that are left is like-

• 1:12:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  No more you getting the sift through and the sock, cause he's, you know, it's easy to say that, but the truth is, they wanna be able to decide whose names get seen and whose names don't. And people aren't with that, like, you know?

• 1:12:45Joe Rogan?

  And they shouldn't be with that.

• 1:12:46Speaker 01

  Or, or, we agree with this guy and then, and then we let them Kennedy joints out, we, we been waiting for them, think about it, they said the same thing about the Kennedy shit. Well, we don't wanna hurt, and, and every time they're supposed to release it, they kick it down the road.

• 1:12:59Joe Rogan?

  They've released some new Kennedy documents, but no, I've never heard anything come out of it.

• 1:13:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was supposed to be, it's supposed to have been released two or three presidents ago.

• 1:13:07Joe Rogan?

  There's no way those people are alive.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  Right. The long, what, what we know is this, we know that, I forget who said it, but justice delayed is justice denied. The longer we wait, the more we let these fucking snakes kick the can down the road, the more they get to obfuscate and muddy the waters, no, let all that-

• 1:13:24Joe Rogan?

  You know what Trump said about the JFK files?

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:13:26Joe Rogan?

  He said, uh, "I saw them, and if you saw what I saw, you wouldn't release them either."

• 1:13:33Speaker 01

  That's what I'm screaming.

• 1:13:35Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:13:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:36Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean? What does that mean?

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  I don't even, I can't even imagine what that means.

• 1:13:40Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean? What could that mean? What does that mean?

• 1:13:43Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:13:44Joe Rogan?

  Does that mean a foreign government? Does that mean our government? Does that mean the mafia? Does that mean a coordinated effort with all the above? What does that mean?

• 1:13:53Speaker 01

  I have no idea what it could possibly mean.

• 1:13:56Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy for something that happened in 1963.

• 1:13:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, and, and almost everyone involved, almost everyone that could be embarrassed somehow is dead.

• 1:14:05Joe Rogan?

  62 years ago, man.

• 1:14:06Speaker 01

  So, it would have to be something that like destroys an institution or something.

• 1:14:12Joe Rogan?

  Something.

• 1:14:12Speaker 01

  Like this Epstein shit.

• 1:14:14Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:14:14Speaker 01

  Like.

• 1:14:15Joe Rogan?

  But just the amount, the sheer amount of people with insane amounts of money that are attached to this.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  Cause my conservative friends be like, they think, they think I give a fuck about a Democrat. They be like, "Oh, you, with Bill Clinton's in there." Like, I don't give a fuck who in there. I don't care who in there.

• 1:14:32Joe Rogan?

  You don't care.

• 1:14:33Speaker 01

  Put that shit in the street, yeah.

• 1:14:34Joe Rogan?

  But they think you do?

• 1:14:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't have, I don't have a...

• 1:14:37Joe Rogan?

  Party identity.

• 1:14:38Speaker 01

  I don't have a favorite politician. I don't have, there's no, there's nobody, I don't give these motherfuckers money.

• 1:14:43Joe Rogan?

  No, that's...

• 1:14:44Speaker 01

  No, there's no politician that I love enough to, to, to it. Cause this, this is what's killing me. It's, there's people out there that are literally like, "Well, how old is 16 really?" You know, like, they're, like, they're trying to justify, like, they, cause they wanna come out of this with, by still showing support, but, but they don't wanna be connected to the crime. So they're trying to, they're still trying to justify their support of all of this.

• 1:15:07Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:15:08Speaker 01

  It's like, there's no politician I love more than I love my country. Or more than I have my principles of like, yeah, I think if you can't draw the line at kid fucking, then you probably...

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• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  Should stop talking in public. Like, you shouldn't have public discourse, you know?

• 1:17:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I mean, I think this is a pattern that exists, has existed forever in politics. They want you to be compromised when you get into any sort of a position, so they can control you. And I think these things like Epstein and there's probably a bunch of other similar operations that are being run. They provide you with like a really good time or maybe you're a high profile, extremely wealthy individual and it's hard for you to get hosed. And some guy tells you, hey, we've got everything covered, you know, you come to my island, nothing, you know, what happens on the island stays on the island.

• 1:18:06Speaker 01

  Bro, they just kicked, didn't they kick somebody out of the royal family?

• 1:18:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:18:09Speaker 01

  Who?

• 1:18:10Joe Rogan?

  Prince Andrew.

• 1:18:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they, they kicked him out of the family and there hasn't even been like a formal trial yet. It's not like he's been convicted.

• 1:18:18Speaker 01

  But what does that, what, what happens when you not, they just walk you out the castle and you just, you're just on the street?

• 1:18:23Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, man. I think he's out in a house, like way out in the country, like you stay here.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  I just, in my, in my head, I just picture him like crying over some KFC because he's never eaten peasant food.

• 1:18:35Joe Rogan?

  I don't think he's eaten peasant food.

• 1:18:37Speaker 01

  So he's just not, so he's not a regular person?

• 1:18:39Joe Rogan?

  I think he's in a manor, like a beautiful home in the country.

• 1:18:43Speaker 01

  Okay, so, so.

• 1:18:44Joe Rogan?

  I think he has to stay.

• 1:18:45Speaker 01

  So being kicked out of the royal family doesn't mean that you just, that you lose everything?

• 1:18:49Joe Rogan?

  Who knows, I mean, what does he have and where did he get it? Is it just money from the government? Because they, they do get paid by the government, right?

• 1:18:55Speaker 01

  They do, but I also think they're all, there's still dukes of something and lords of something.

• 1:18:59Joe Rogan?

  Here it says what he lost. So after being stripped of his royal titles and forced to leave his longtime residence at Royal Lodge, Royal Lodge, Prince Andrew, now formerly known as Andrew Montbatten Windsor, will relocate to accommodation in the Sandringham, Sandrigam, how do you say that? Sandrigam Estate in Norfolk. He is now excluded from royal duties and public life and his status has been dramatically reduced. His status has been reduced. Loss of titles and status, eviction from Royal Lodge, relocation to Sandrigam Estate. So he's, he's relocated to an estate in, in the countryside. Public exclusion.

• 1:19:44Joe Rogan?

  He remains excluded from all royal engagements and official events, except for private family gatherings.

• 1:19:51Speaker 01

  But that sounds sweet.

• 1:19:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, he's getting away with not having to be, you know, like, not being in the public eye.

• 1:19:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, they were basically like, you know, all the parts about being a royal that suck? Yeah, you don't have to do those anymore.

• 1:20:04Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Financial support. The king will provide for Andrew's basic needs, but his former royal funding and security benefits have been ended. Andrew has sought private business opportunities to support himself, but no public roles are expected.

• 1:20:21Speaker 01

  Wow. But who gonna go into business with you, my guy?

• 1:20:23Joe Rogan?

  He's gonna go, he wants to go into business.

• 1:20:24Speaker 01

  He's gonna open up a Starbucks?

• 1:20:26Joe Rogan?

  Getting money from the king all this time. This whole thing is nuts, because they, they get money, and I don't think they have to do anything. Like, I don't think they have, like, real function in government, do they?

• 1:20:37Speaker 01

  Bruh.

• 1:20:38Joe Rogan?

  Where's the San Diego Estates? Oh, that's where he got, poor guy. That's so sad. That's so sad, they made him stay in that castle. Look how beautiful that place is. That is so nuts, that this, this guy got kicked out of there.

• 1:20:53Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 1:20:54Joe Rogan?

  He got kicked out of wherever the fuck he was, the royal loll.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  Unless, unless they tell me his punishment is like, they give you that estate, but they take all the servants?

• 1:21:01Joe Rogan?

  Bro, look at the gardener's house. Show me the gardener, that's the gardener's house. That's where the gardener lives. That fucking place is beautiful. That is hilarious, dude.

• 1:21:10Speaker 01

  Like, if they give him that place, but they don't give him no servants, and he just gotta clean everything, he's, he gotta walk a mile to the kitchen?

• 1:21:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's gotta do his own dishes.

• 1:21:17Speaker 01

  No, but that, but this is, this guy's, this guy's living the life. So he, he just gets banished to a mansion, he don't gotta do no public duties.

• 1:21:24Joe Rogan?

  Yes. And they probably just bring hose out to the mansion.

• 1:21:28Speaker 03

  You think he gets a puppy?

• 1:21:29Joe Rogan?

  It's not like he stopped banging hose.

• 1:21:31Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 1:21:31Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't know what, I don't know what he's in trouble for.

• 1:21:34Joe Rogan?

  Right, that's the thing, they haven't told us.

• 1:21:36Speaker 01

  But to get kicked out the royal family is wild. They didn't even kick Meghan Markle out the family, and she, they racist.

• 1:21:42Joe Rogan?

  Legal and public impact. What is this? These changes result from longstanding controversies over Andrew's association with Jeffrey Epstein and subsequent legal settlements. Oh, he's got settlements. Particularly the civil case bought by Virginia Guffey, which concluded without any admission of liability by Andrew, but resulted in a multimillion pound settlement. Do you know that there's, the amount of money that's been paid out to, to victims of Jeffrey Epstein is like $300 million so far?

• 1:22:11Speaker 01

  From where?

• 1:22:12Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Um, is that true?

• 1:22:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, but there's also, I was thinking, there's also a bunch of money that just moved after he died that no one really understands.

• 1:22:20Joe Rogan?

  No, this is all so sketchy.

• 1:22:24Speaker 01

  Bro, I'm telling you, a lot of people, if they really release this shit in earnest, a lot, it's gonna be, it's gonna change everything. I hope, I hope it's that powerful.

• 1:22:32Joe Rogan?

  You think it will be?

• 1:22:35Speaker 01

  Well, all I know is, the most powerful person on earth has been doing a lot to keep that shit from coming out. And I don't, and I, I'm not like everybody else, I don't think Trump is in there in a criminal way. But I think a lot of, he has a lot of powerful friends that have put, been putting pressure on him to keep that shit under wraps.

• 1:22:52Joe Rogan?

  I think that definitely has to be the case.

• 1:22:53Speaker 01

  I think it's gonna be royal people, it's gonna be prime ministers, it's gonna be Supreme Court justices, it's gonna be all type of motherfuckers.

• 1:22:58Joe Rogan?

  Former presidents.

• 1:22:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, some CEOs, it's gonna be all type of shit in there.

• 1:23:02Joe Rogan?

  Scientists.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  Get it out.

• 1:23:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:05Speaker 01

  Get it out. Yeah, yeah. The world already, we, there's nothing to lose for America as a whole.

• 1:23:10Joe Rogan?

  What a crazy operation they were running. What a crazy thing. To have a bunch of people fly him out to an island that somehow or another you own. Like, where'd you get the money to buy a fucking island, bro?

• 1:23:22Speaker 01

  It's not as expensive as you think.

• 1:23:23Joe Rogan?

  A whole island?

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:24Joe Rogan?

  We looked at that island, we, we were trying to buy it.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  How much is it?

• 1:23:28Joe Rogan?

  Actually, I shouldn't say we're trying to buy it, we were thinking about it very briefly, but it was too expensive, it was like fifty-five.

• 1:23:33Speaker 01

  It's not discounted now?

• 1:23:35Joe Rogan?

  That's a discount.

• 1:23:36Speaker 01

  That's the discounted price? Oh, okay, okay.

• 1:23:39Joe Rogan?

  I would imagine it's well, worth well more than that. Like, if you buy a beautiful house in, like, Miami, a beautiful house in Miami might be two hundred million dollars if it's on the ocean. Those, like, crazy manners in, like, West Palm Beach.

• 1:23:53Speaker 01

  But it's like, but the island's basically haunted, you gotta sage the whole motherfucking thing.

• 1:23:57Joe Rogan?

  It's too late. You gotta level it to ground. You gotta remove the dirt and go get dirt from, like, some pristine island. Yeah, you gotta remove everything. It would be, that's the same reason why we never bought the One World Theater. The same thing.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  Oh, that weird cult?

• 1:24:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the cult thing. I was like, oh, man, there's not enough sage in the world.

• 1:24:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, you had to come by with some holy water, anointing oil.

• 1:24:19Joe Rogan?

  That is a beautiful property, but I was like, what did they do to those poor people there? You know, and that island is like...

• 1:24:26Speaker 01

  I wouldn't be shocked if that dude was on there. What was his name? Um, the cult leader of that cult.

• 1:24:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, he had different names. Um, his first, I forget what his real name was. He had the same name as a boxer. Forget it. I forget his fucking name. What's the cult members, the cult leader's name in Holy Hell? But he changed his name twice. So he had a fake name when he was teaching yoga in West Hollywood when he started the cults. And then when the cult awareness network started going after him. Because after Waco, they started going after all the cults. They're like, these motherfuckers are arming up. Like, this is dangerous. Let's find out. And also, it's like, a lot of people lost their family members. Jaime Gomez, that's right.

• 1:25:09Joe Rogan?

  So, he was, uh, Michel, Michelle, and then he became Andreas once he came to, um...

• 1:25:17Speaker 01

  Texas.

• 1:25:17Joe Rogan?

  To Texas. So what happened was, he, they were after him. And so, this dude picks up shop and just moves to Austin. And just to throw people off, has his followers build a theater so he could dance in front of them. They built that. His followers built that theater.

• 1:25:34Speaker 01

  And see, I have...

• 1:25:35Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful place.

• 1:25:36Speaker 01

  For people to get sucked in and stuff like that. But I feel like we know enough now where it's like, if you're unsure if you're in a cult, like, as soon as the guy wants to fuck your wife, you should be...

• 1:25:47Joe Rogan?

  Or your dad.

• 1:25:48Speaker 01

  Or, right. Or just anyone.

• 1:25:51Joe Rogan?

  This guy was fucking everybody.

• 1:25:53Speaker 01

  As soon as the leader need to fuck your family...

• 1:25:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a problem.

• 1:25:56Speaker 01

  That's the red flag right there. If there was no alarm bells before that point, like, when they ask you to give up all your stuff.

• 1:26:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  Maybe you still had hope. You know, when they started giving you duties as a servant, maybe you still had hope. But when they need to fuck your family members. I feel like that should be, that should set off all the alarms for you, for me.

• 1:26:15Joe Rogan?

  They wait until you're deep in the cult before they bust that one out. Like, David Koresh, didn't he wait, like, a long time? I think they were already on the compound and he was like, "God just told me I have to fuck your wife." Like, for real, it was one of that, it was that dumb. It was like that dumb. Like, God spoke to him and told him that no one was allowed to have sex but him. And he could have sex with everybody's wife.

• 1:26:37Speaker 01

  Group pressure is very powerful.

• 1:26:40Joe Rogan?

  Final fantasy.

• 1:26:40Speaker 01

  Like, none of us are really above it, you know? You gotta be careful what groups you're around in, because... That pressure to conform, you know, because I bet, he's not just like, "I gotta fuck your wife." But he's surrounded by people going, "Do it, do it."

• 1:26:55Joe Rogan?

  They're all cheering on with towels and shit.

• 1:26:57Speaker 01

  Or they have their little saying, they say, you know?

• 1:26:59Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  That pressure to like-

• 1:27:00Joe Rogan?

  Praise Jesus.

• 1:27:01Speaker 01

  Yep, that pressure to, that pressure to please everyone.

• 1:27:04Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:27:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz it, it's a, there's a certain type of person that gets sucked roped into those things.

• 1:27:10Joe Rogan?

  Well, I always wonder about that, like, is there a grand pattern to the universe? Is there a mathematica, mathematical formulation that we exist in? Where you have to have a certain amount of gullible people? And then a certain amount of devious people that try to trick people and con artists? And then a certain amount of people like you that are like, what the fuck is going on? Like, that all of this sort of like dances together and balances itself out? And just like nature has predators and it has wounded antelope that get too close to the water hole. All these things like kind of have to exist at the same time in order for progress to be made. It seems like it's just a certain amount of people that are just born gullible. And not just gullible, but kind of like wanting to be tricked.

• 1:27:56Joe Rogan?

  Uh, he reportedly annulled marriages of couples and who joined the sect and took multiple women as his spiritual wives. Some of whom were very young girls. Uh, former cult members have alleged that Koresh slept with wives of other members and maintained a harem. Sometimes with women who were already married and fathered numerous children with various women. Koresh also instructed male followers to practice celibacy and surrender their wives to him. This behavior was part of his doctrine and control over the group's women and children, often accompanied by allegations of sexual abuse and manipulation. Yeah.

• 1:28:31Speaker 01

  See, the thing is, those guys, they're not influential guys. Their, their superpower is their ability to know who, like, they can, they can sense who's broken in just the right way.

• 1:28:43Joe Rogan?

  Uh-huh.

• 1:28:43Speaker 01

  And come in and be daddy.

• 1:28:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:46Speaker 01

  You know, cuz, yeah, cuz, um, can you imagine? A motherfucker telling you to be celibate while he banging your wife?

• 1:28:51Joe Rogan?

  Crazy, crazy. And you're living in a, a compound with him and he's heavily armed.

• 1:28:57Speaker 01

  And you gave him all your worldly possessions.

• 1:28:58Joe Rogan?

  And he sings and he's terrible. I have to listen to him sing. You ever listen to him sing?

• 1:29:02Speaker 01

  Or he dancing on a stage that you built?

• 1:29:05Joe Rogan?

  Listen, play some David Koresh music.

• 1:29:08Joe Rogan?

  He has, like, he would sing songs. They were terrible.

• 1:29:10Speaker 01

  He has music?

• 1:29:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's, he was terrible.

• 1:29:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was a musician. He was a frustrated musician who became an evangelical.

• 1:29:20Joe Rogan?

  The-

• 1:29:22Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, give me one, any one. They're all, I'm sure they all suck.

• 1:29:28Joe Rogan?

  Let's listen to David Koresh, recorded in Waco, Texas, 1989.

• 1:29:33Joe Rogan?

  If I was in that cult, I'd be like, there is no way.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  I think I'm gonna let him fuck my wife now.

• 1:29:37Joe Rogan?

  But how about that name? The name, is that like the name of a woman he was trying to fuck? Shoshoniam? I mean, that's a weird name.

• 1:29:45Speaker 01

  What does it say?

• 1:29:45Joe Rogan?

  Very unusual name. I've never heard that name in my whole life.

• 1:29:48Speaker 01

  It probably was some girl he was trying to smash.

• 1:29:50Joe Rogan?

  Probably has to be.

• 1:29:51Speaker 03

  By biblical.

• 1:29:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:29:54Speaker 03

  Psalms.

• 1:29:56Joe Rogan?

  Hebrew lilies, mentioned in Psalms 45 and 49, it is meaning, its meaning in these Psalms is uncertain. Some believe it's kind of lil- click on that, what it says? A kind of lily? What is that saying? Lily-shaped, straight trumpet. What? A six-string trumpet, a word commencing a song, or the melody of which these Psalms were to be sung. Like, they don't even know.

• 1:30:22Speaker 01

  So yeah, it was probably some girl's name.

• 1:30:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, probably a chick.

• 1:30:26Joe Rogan?

  I saw Lil and I was like, is that Lilith? Do you know who Lilith is? You ever heard of Lilith?

• 1:30:31Speaker 01

  You mean, like, the demon?

• 1:30:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, Lilith was like, apparently before Eve. There's like, this is like, now, again, I don't know who to believe or who not to believe and what, I don't even know what scriptures show Lilith and what don't, but.

• 1:30:48Speaker 01

  Everything I know about Lilith is from Diablo lore.

• 1:30:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's funny. No, Lilith is like a character in ancient religious texts.

• 1:30:57Speaker 01

  Right, but she's a daughter of.

• 1:31:00Joe Rogan?

  Who is, well, we're gonna find out, because I'll butcher it. I'm very hesitant to say what I think it is, because I don't really remember.

• 1:31:06Speaker 01

  She's the daughter of Beelzebub, right?

• 1:31:08Joe Rogan?

  This is, I, did Wes Huff tell us about this? No. You know who told us about this? Kurt Metzger. Kurt Metzger was ranting and raving about Lilith. You don't know? You didn't know about Lilith?

• 1:31:17Speaker 03

  There's a few different ones, but this is the one that he was talking about.

• 1:31:21Joe Rogan?

  Lilith is not a character in the Bible. Her name is only mentioned in one verse in the book of Isaiah.

• 1:31:25Speaker 03

  This one here.

• 1:31:26Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Uh, origin of the legend. The story of Lilith as Adam's first wife comes from later Jewish folklore, such as the alphabet of Ben Sira, which was not included in the canonical Bible. The legend's core story is according to its folklore, Lilith was created from the earth at the same time as Adam, making her his equal. When she refused to be subservient to him, she left the Garden of Eden. That sounds like a true story. Some interpretations claim that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 describe two different creation stories and two different women. This is considered incorrect and ludicrous by many biblical scholars and theologians. Evolution of the figure. Over time, Lilith's story evolved from a simple night demon from Mesopotamian cultures to more complex figure in Jewish tradition.

• 1:32:11Joe Rogan?

  In modern times, some have reclaimed her as a feminist symbol of independence and equality. That's funny. The Lilith Fair. That's where that Lilith Fair.

• 1:32:21Speaker 01

  See, that picture of Lilith, that's from Diablo, the video game.

• 1:32:24Joe Rogan?

  I would play as that character. Can you play as her and fuck people up?

• 1:32:27Speaker 01

  No, no, no. She's the bad guy, but she fucks you up.

• 1:32:29Joe Rogan?

  That would be a dope character for Quake. If you could be Lilith and run around a map fucking people up.

• 1:32:34Speaker 01

  I think you can be her in Fortnite or something.

• 1:32:36Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 1:32:37Speaker 01

  I think they buy every fucking.

• 1:32:38Joe Rogan?

  But that's what she looked like?

• 1:32:39Speaker 01

  In the game?

• 1:32:40Joe Rogan?

  In the game?

• 1:32:41Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. And she was, she's hard to beat.

• 1:32:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 1:32:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've only beat her once. But I haven't played in a long time. But, yeah, everything I know about her is from that game, and it sounds like it's all wrong.

• 1:32:50Joe Rogan?

  But isn't it funny that Shoshonahim or whatever the fuck it is, they don't even know what that was? Like, it might have been a trumpet, it might have been a flute, it might have been a person, I don't know. Could have been a song, could have been the way you sing.

• 1:33:01Speaker 01

  I bet you like a Hebrew scholar could probably tell you.

• 1:33:04Joe Rogan?

  Maybe. It seems like it's up for debate. That's the problem with a lot of really old shit. It's like, they're just guessing. They're really old shit, they're just guessing. Like, what is, what are they trying to say in the book of Ezekiel? What are they trying to say?

• 1:33:17Speaker 01

  Is it crazy?

• 1:33:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:33:19Speaker 01

  I haven't read a Bible in like 20 years.

• 1:33:21Joe Rogan?

  The Ezekiel stuff's bananas, man.

• 1:33:23Speaker 03

  I asked, uh, perplexity a little more about Shoshonahim and David Kresh.

• 1:33:28Joe Rogan?

  Was a group or entity related to the Branch Davidians cult led by David Koresh? A group or entity related to it? The name seems to refer to Koresh's followers who identified themselves as students of the seven seals. Oh, so they were, they were his people. So he called his people that group.

• 1:33:45Speaker 01

  Alliteration against you every time.

• 1:33:47Joe Rogan?

  Reflection, reflecting their focus on apocalyptic teachings derived from the Bible's book of Revelation. Koresh positioned himself as a messianic figure, calling himself the Lamb who would open the seven seals, an event that would lead to salvation and the apocalypse. Followers under Koresh's leadership and ideology were sometimes referred to as Koreshians. You know what would be crazy? What really would be crazy is if heaven was real and the murder, like them being murdered, sent them to heaven. Because they were, those people were murdered. Like, you ever, you ever see what the actual footage of the, when they stormed Waco?

• 1:34:28Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:34:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, bro, it's crazy. They killed those people. They lit them on fire. They drove tanks into the buildings and flames are shooting out of the tanks. They just cooked those people. Not just Koresh, not just people, like everybody, men, women, children. They got cooked.

• 1:34:43Speaker 01

  What were they trying to do in the first place? Just to have them disarm?

• 1:34:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, there was a problem with, there's a lot to the story. And it seems like in the beginning, there might have been some governmental overreach, like they were trying to get a win and they were trying to, like, who described this to us? Was it Oliver Stone? Who, who was telling, it might have been Darryl Cooper. Darryl Cooper has an amazing series all on the Waco, no, he doesn't. It's the Epstein files. Someone, he doesn't have, he does, he has one on Guyana. That's what he has on. Somebody has one on Koresh. Is it Cooper? So who has a series on Koresh?

• 1:35:26Speaker 01

  Well, what the FBI want?

• 1:35:27Joe Rogan?

  I'm blanking here, but the point is, they wanted to win. So they wanted to take out this cult, and so they exaggerated what they were doing, and they had to stand down. So they stood outside of the gates with fucking armored vehicles and cops and men with guns, and they waited them out. And eventually it escalated. It escalated to them getting agents on the roof. Agents on the roof got shot at by the people that were in the cult. And so then, they started shooting at them, and it became a gunfight. And then they brought in tanks, and lit it on fire, and killed everybody. It's a crazy story, man. It is crazy. It is, the whole thing, there was a, I know there's a documentary on it as well,

• 1:36:07Joe Rogan?

  that like details, like all the different things that led up to the eventual storming of the compound.

• 1:36:13Speaker 01

  And did that, because what year did that happen? Was that like 89?

• 1:36:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was like, I think it was like in either the early 90, like 90 or 80? What was it?

• 1:36:23Speaker 03

  The siege was in 93.

• 1:36:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, was it really? 93?

• 1:36:25Speaker 01

  See, I don't remember that.

• 1:36:26Joe Rogan?

  I remember it. I remember it.

• 1:36:28Speaker 01

  Like, I vaguely remember hearing about it, but in my mind, it's not like something that happened.

• 1:36:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:34Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:36:34Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:36:35Speaker 01

  Because that's the same, that was right around, um...

• 1:36:37Joe Rogan?

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• 1:38:53Speaker 01

  Wasn't it around the OJ murder too?

• 1:38:56Joe Rogan?

  Yep, yep, because that trial was 94.

• 1:38:59Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah, so I was like, to me, that's a significant cultural event, and I don't remember the Waco thing being... Like, I remember hearing about it afterwards. I don't remember hearing about it while it was happening.

• 1:39:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I heard about it.

• 1:39:08Speaker 01

  But were people... How did the people react to the government just killing people?

• 1:39:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, they didn't know. See, it took... There was no internet back then. It took a while before people really got hip. There was a few documentaries that were released, or some news footage that got released, and maybe you can get ahold of a VHS tape, some obscure VHS tape that might have had something to do with Waco. But people really didn't know until they started making documentaries about it, until they saw it on the internet. Once you can see it, because most people are just going to believe the narrative. What's the narrative? People had guns, which they did. The guy was a piece of shit and a cult leader, which he was. But like, how did it lead to mass murder? How did it lead to them just... Well, it led to they blocked out this guy's house. They, you know, and that's not even the worst one. The worst one is Ruby Ridge. That one's horrible.

• 1:39:57Speaker 01

  What happened at Ruby Ridge?

• 1:39:59Joe Rogan?

  Put, put that into perplexity. Ruby Ridge. This one's a crazy story. Cause the Ruby Ridge story is like totally avoidable. And horrific, like they shot a mother while she was holding her baby. Like crazy. The, this, these fam- it was like a family of like preppers. They were like out in the woods. And you know, maybe the guy was like a little radical, but they completely escalated it. Was this in Texas too? Murdered, no, I don't remember where that was. Um, where was that? Idaho. Okay. Incident was 11 day standoff in August of 1992 in Boundary County, Idaho, involving Randy Weaver, his family and a friend, Kevin Harris, against US Marshals and FBI agents.

• 1:40:44Joe Rogan?

  It began when US Marshal sought to arrest Randy Weaver for failing to appear in court on federal firearms charges related to the sale of a modified shotgun. The situation escalated after Weaver's dog was shot by a marshal during surveillance, leading to a firefight in which Weaver's 14-year-old son Samuel was killed by gunfire. Kevin Harris, a family friend, shot and killed Deputy Marshal William Deegan during the exchange. FBI hostage rescue team was called in and during a sniper shot, Randy Weaver was wounded. The sniper's second shot intended for Harris also hit and killed Weaver's wife, Vicki, who was holding their infant daughter behind a cabin door. Uh, the siege ended when negotiators, including activist Bo Gritz, convinced Weaver and Harris to surrender.

• 1:41:29Joe Rogan?

  Harris was arrested on August 30th and Weaver, with his daughter, surrendered the next day. Criticism later arose over the FBI's rules of engagement and use of deadly force, particularly the constitutional legality of the sniper's second shot that killed Vicki Weaver. The standoff highlighted tensions between federal law enforcement and citizens, especially among anti-government and white separatist groups. Weaver and Harris were charged with several offenses, but were acquitted of the most severe charges, except Weaver's conviction for failure to appear in court.

• 1:42:02Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. They were both acquitted.

• 1:42:05Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 1:42:06Joe Rogan?

  They got in a firefight with the feds and they were acquitted.

• 1:42:09Speaker 01

  Well, Kevin Harris popped it off, and you know just-

• 1:42:11Joe Rogan?

  Look at that statement. Weaver and Harris were charged with several offenses, but were acquitted of the most severe charges, except Weaver's conviction for failure to appear in court. That's all they got him for.

• 1:42:21Speaker 01

  So nothing.

• 1:42:22Joe Rogan?

  Failure to appear in court. They killed his wife. They shot his kid. They killed his kid. They killed his dog. And he, it was because he failed to appeal, appear in court. Because he sold a modified gun. I don't even know what that means. Was it a sawed-off shotgun, which is illegal? Did he change the trigger? What did he do?

• 1:42:41Speaker 01

  Something.

• 1:42:41Joe Rogan?

  Did he put a large magazine at the bottom of it? Like, what did he do that was illegal? That's crazy.

• 1:42:46Speaker 01

  But also, why are they allowed to kill your dog?

• 1:42:49Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:42:50Speaker 01

  Because that's what popped it all off, right?

• 1:42:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you want to hear one of the worst ones of that? There was a, a mayor. I forget where, who, what he was the mayor of. It might have been Washington DC. But he was a mayor. And, um, he had a postman that was doing some sneaky shit. And the postman was getting weed delivered to his house. Because they figured if I get it, I'm delivering the mail to the mayor's house. And if I get the weed delivered to the mail's, mayor's house, no one's going to check the mayor's packages for weed. So I know which one my friend sent to the mayor's house. I'll just take that. And that way, you know, I'll have the weed and no one will be any the wiser. Well, unfortunately, someone was tracking that package and they knew that that weed

• 1:43:36Joe Rogan?

  was going to this particular address. They didn't know it was the mayor's house. So they stormed the mayor's house, shoot his fucking golden retriever, chase it out in, in the yard, while it's cowering, and shoot it. And you've been around my golden retriever. Like, the golden retrievers are not biting anybody. Ever. Ever. They're the worst guard dogs in the history of the world. Anybody who comes into my house like, hey, you want to give me a treat? Like, he loves everybody. And they, they shot his dogs, they fucking zip-tied his family, checked the whole house for weed, couldn't find anything, and then eventually it unraveled and they realized what had happened. Like, the guy who was- In delivering his mail was also involved in this weed dealer. And they, you know, they didn't piece it together until after they shot this guy's fucking dogs.

• 1:44:20Speaker 01

  But who's they?

• 1:44:21Joe Rogan?

  The cops, the SWAT team.

• 1:44:24Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 1:44:24Joe Rogan?

  They burst down his door, they did the whole thing, man. They came in guns, armor, fucking zip tied everybody. They thought they were breaking into the house of like a drug. That's how bad their information is.

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  It sounds like they need some weed.

• 1:44:36Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find that story, because it's a very, it's a crazy story. And it was so heartbreaking, because the family had to, the kids had to see their dog get shot by these cops for fucking no reason. No reason.

• 1:44:49Speaker 01

  They, they really gotta start letting cops smoke weed.

• 1:44:52Joe Rogan?

  I think so.

• 1:44:53Speaker 01

  It should be, should be a requirement.

• 1:44:54Joe Rogan?

  Mushrooms. Weed's not strong enough. But, but something to, well also, it's like, therapy and, you know, also, it's like, hey, no for sure. Like, really do an investigation. Do, how about find out who lives there? Oh my god, it's the mayor.

• 1:45:10Speaker 01

  Or like, if you shoot a golden retriever, you should probably have to retire.

• 1:45:13Joe Rogan?

  So here it is. Maryland. So, police say Maryland mayor appears to be innocent victims of a scheme by two men to smuggle millions of dollars worth of marijuana by having it delivered to about a half a dozen unsuspecting recipients. So he was one of the many people that this guy delivered mail to. So he got home from work, saw a package addressed to his wife on the front porch, brought it inside, putting it on a table. Suddenly, police with guns drawn, kicked in the door, stormed in, shooting to death the couple's two dogs and seizing the unopened package. In it were thirty-two pounds of marijuana, but the drugs evidently didn't belong to the couple. Police say the couple appeared to be innocent victims of a scheme by two young men to smuggle millions of dollars of marijuana to unsuspecting recipients. Two men under the arrest include a FedEx delivery man.

• 1:45:57Joe Rogan?

  Investigators said the delivery man would drop off a package outside of a home and the other man would come by a short time later and pick it up. Wow. Isn't that crazy?

• 1:46:07Speaker 01

  And, but only, hold on, so only the, only the dogs died though? Our dogs were our children.

• 1:46:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Uh, police apparently killed the dogs, he said, for sport. Gunning down one of them as it was running away. Our dogs were our children, said the thirty-seven-year-old Calvo.

• 1:46:22Speaker 01

  Two labs, two labradors.

• 1:46:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they were labs. Oh, that's, oh, they were black labs. I thought they were golden retrievers. I fucked it up. Um, our dogs were our children. Again, labs, same thing. Labs aren't biting anybody. The sweetest dogs in the world. Said the thirty-seven-year-old Calvo. They were our reason we brought this house, because it had a big yard for them to run in.

• 1:46:41Joe Rogan?

  Um, um, unfucking believable. He was handcuffed in his boxer shorts for about two hours. Along with his mother-in-law, said the officers didn't believe him, and we told them he was the mayor. No charges were brought against Calvo or his wife, who came home in the middle of the raid. Fuck, man.

• 1:46:58Speaker 01

  They ain't even apologized for killing the dogs.

• 1:47:03Joe Rogan?

  Killed labs.

• 1:47:04Speaker 01

  Bro, you find out wild shit, like I just, um, I just.

• 1:47:07Joe Rogan?

  That's so sad.

• 1:47:08Speaker 01

  I just came from Tulsa, Oklahoma, like the, you're like the Tulsa massacre.

• 1:47:13Joe Rogan?

  What's the Tulsa massacre?

• 1:47:14Speaker 01

  It was like Black Wall Street, it was like.

• 1:47:16Joe Rogan?

  When was this?

• 1:47:17Speaker 01

  This was the twenties, I think, or maybe the nineteen, like the nineteen teens. Where like after the Trails, the Trails of Tears, well, the civilized tribes, basically, they were told that they could have Oklahoma. Because the land smelled funny, their air smelled funny, whatever, and then they found oil. And that's, that set off a whole bunch of shit, because now you got a bunch of natives and freed slaves that's about to be rich. So you ever, you see that movie, the Flower Moon movie?

• 1:47:44Joe Rogan?

  No, I didn't see it.

• 1:47:45Speaker 01

  Oh, but it's kind of like that, like they would, because you couldn't, they couldn't sell their land, some tribes couldn't sell their land, so you had to marry into the family. And then if you killed everybody, it was yours.

• 1:47:56Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:47:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, and so, but Tulsa was, it's Black Wall Street, but it was like the Greenwood area of Tulsa. And they, and it was basically like a prosperous, wealthy, black community, and there was a riot one night, and they burned it all down and.

• 1:48:12Joe Rogan?

  And so they did this because of oil?

• 1:48:15Speaker 01

  No, well, that was the backdrop for Oklahoma, but, but they did this just because of like racial jealousy, just like.

• 1:48:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they did it because they were doing well?

• 1:48:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were doing too well, and there was a lot of racial tension in the community. Because the whole, the whole idea behind institutional racism is that poor white people don't mind being taken advantage of, because they know that it's black people somewhere that's doing worse than them. But that doesn't work if you live next to dudes that's dressed better than you, they got cars, they got thriving business. And it got racial, like the National Guard came in. And, and that was all stuff I learned before I went there, but then I went to the museum there. And I bring this up just because it would blow your mind how recently.

• 1:49:02Speaker 01

  They, like, they just now acknowledged it like five years ago.

• 1:49:08Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:49:10Speaker 01

  This all happened because I, I was at, at the comedy club I was at, I, I mentioned to the owner, I was like, I've stayed in Hiltons all over the place, why does my Hilton say, why does it have these pure things everywhere to tell you that the air is clean and the water is clean? And he was like, oh yeah, they just started filtering the water that goes to the north side of town like a few years ago, like the black side of town. I was like, what? Like, how lo- how recently? He was like, uh, twenty. And me and my friend were like, twenty? It's like, yeah.

• 1:49:35Joe Rogan?

  Put that back up, please.

• 1:49:36Speaker 01

  So, so I was like, he was like, have you not been to the museum? I'm like, no. And so we went over there and it was like, it was a heavy day.

• 1:49:43Joe Rogan?

  Bro, this is crazy. Look at this statistics here. Thir- look, how many blocks? Thirty-five square blocks of the neighborhood.

• 1:49:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:49:53Joe Rogan?

  At the time, one of the wealthiest black communities in the United States, colloquially known as Black Wall Street, more than eight hundred people were admitted to hospitals, as many as six thousand black residents of Tulsa were interned, many of them for several days. The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded thirty-six dead.

• 1:50:11Speaker 01

  Wow. Yeah. And so they just now started, like, the guy told me, um,

• 1:50:16Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Estimates from up to, from thirty-six to up to around three hundred dead. Thirty-five blocks.

• 1:50:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, they, they don't know how many are there because there was a lot of mass graves and stuff that they just started looking for.

• 1:50:29Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit, man.

• 1:50:30Speaker 01

  But even still to the, even still to this day, they're not allowed to teach about it in schools, like, they, they just now started being allowed to teach about it, but they're not allowed to say who was who.

• 1:50:39Speaker 03

  Even the YouTube video has age restricted. I was gonna show it to you, but the account I'm on, I didn't wanna do it.

• 1:50:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, this, this shit was crazy. And so, and, and so Joe, if you wanna, if you wanna feel real uncomfortable, I, so I'll go in the museum and they have these holograms. So, you, you si- you sit in the barber chair and you can see yourself in the mirror, but there's a hologram of a barber like cutting your hair. There's three of them in a row. And they're like having a conversation about what's going on around town. It's, it's heavy, bro.

• 1:51:09Joe Rogan?

  Wow. Put that back up. What, so the cause of it, they're saying? So it says, "The massacre began during Memorial Weekend after a 19-year-old Dick Rowland, a black shoe shiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, a white 21-year-old elevator operator, in nearby Drexel Building. He was arrested and rumors that he was to be lynch spread. The most likely, most widely reported and corroborated inciting incident occurred as the group of black men left when an elderly white man approached OB man, a black man, and demanded that he hand over his pistol. Man refused and the old man attempted to disarm

• 1:51:50Joe Rogan?

  him. A gunshot went off and then, according to the sheriff's reports, all hell broke loose. The two groups shot at each other until midnight, when the group of black men were greatly outnumbered and forced to retreat to Greenwood." Fuck. "At the end of the exchange of gunfire, 12 people were dead, 10 white and 2 black. Alternatively, another eyewitness account was that the shooting began down the street from the courthouse when black business owners came to the defense of a lone black man being attacked by a group of around 6 white men. It is possible the eyewitnesses did not recognize the fact that this incident was occurring as a part of a rolling gunfight that was already underway." Holy fuck, man.

• 1:52:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, shit, shit went down in Greenwood. And the thing is, it's still not back. So, so then, they, uh, they, they put a highway right through the middle of that neighborhood.

• 1:52:43Joe Rogan?

  (sighs)

• 1:52:44Speaker 01

  And it completely, like, destroyed all of the, the economy and everything.

• 1:52:48Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:52:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, man. And I, I, like, I thought I knew about this shit, but then when I went there, it was, it was real intense for me. But then, we, we ate, we ate some good-ass food, though. It was me and, it was me and Lucas McCurry. And we, when we got done, we got back to the hotel, he was like, "Oh, that's the blackest day I've ever had." I was like, "Might be mine, too."

• 1:53:12Joe Rogan?

  This is the place?

• 1:53:13Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's called the...

• 1:53:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:53:17Speaker 01

  Um, it's called the, uh, the Black Wall Street Museum.

• 1:53:22Joe Rogan?

  And they just recent, they just recently admitted this?

• 1:53:26Speaker 01

  Uh, they, they admitted it probably in the, like, twenty ten or something like that. They acknowledged it. I mean, everyone already knew. But now they're just now getting to the point where they're allowed to, like, teach it. But they, but they still aren't allowed to say what the people look like. So they, they can say group A did this and group B did that, but they can't say black, white. They can't say Klan, this, you know.

• 1:53:48Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:53:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, they, they still won't say people's, certain people's names. Cause this is, these are like, the, cause the Klan is heavily involved too. Like, when you go to the, to the museum, there's like a Klan ledger of like the meeting. You know, like a, like a roll call.

• 1:54:03Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:54:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it was a wild ass, it's wild out there in Oklahoma. And the thing is, they still haven't recovered. That neighborhood is still not recovered. It probably, I mean, it never will at this point.

• 1:54:13Joe Rogan?

  The history of Oklahoma is so crazy.

• 1:54:15Speaker 01

  Oklahoma is nu, well, that's the thing. So we, we get done the tour, we walk out of the tour guide. And I, and I walk past this guy, I didn't know he was one of the guides, cause we didn't take a guide. We just walked through the museum ourselves. And he goes, you look familiar. And I was like, ah, you probably know me from comedy, well, he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and he is like the guide. And then he, we walked around with him for like an hour.

• 1:54:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:54:38Speaker 01

  And he just, he told us, he was like, yeah, they don't even say everything. So this is also blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He took us to like all these historical spots. And we, we ate at this place called Sweet Lisa's, which, bro, you could taste. You could taste the, the struggle, the season, everything. The season, just perfection, you know what I mean? You could just tell this recipe came from the ancestor. It was incredible. And it's like in this little shop, they just got indoor seating, you know?

• 1:55:05Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:55:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was like, it was like, it was, it was almost like.

• 1:55:10Speaker 01

  I guess, cause in my mind, it's easy to learn about shit like that and think of it as something that happened a long time ago. But then to be there and realize like, they still haven't come all the way back.

• 1:55:18Joe Rogan?

  You see that photo of that lady, that Native American lady at the front door? Where that she's breastfeeding a child, you've seen it.

• 1:55:26Speaker 01

  Oh, at the mothership?

• 1:55:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, here, here, in this room.

• 1:55:28Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 1:55:29Joe Rogan?

  Outside, you never saw it?

• 1:55:30Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:55:31Joe Rogan?

  You know that, um, that one, um, the, you've seen the, the painting of a Native American face that's on bullets? It's like all the back, you've seen that?

• 1:55:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:55:40Joe Rogan?

  That's Quanah Parker, that lady Cynthia Ann Parker. She was kidnapped by Comanches in Oklahoma. So what they used to do in Oklahoma is, this is so dark. They would give people these plots of land, knowing they were gonna get attacked by the Comanches. Like, hey, go, you could go live out here. And they basically like use them as bait. They're like, they started conflict to try to conquer these territories by just having people go out there and, and get shot at and get killed and get slaughtered. And then eventually they would have to send the army out. And then they, one, after a long time, they eventually went through that and went through here, where Texas, the Comanche ran this place too.

• 1:56:23Joe Rogan?

  But they killed her whole family and they stole her when she was nine years old and they kept her because they had a hard time having children. Because they had so many horse riders, they were riding horses all the time and a lot of women miscarried. So it's very difficult for them to keep their numbers up. So when they would go on raiding parties, they would kill everybody except the children and then they incorporate the children into the tribe. Cynthia Ann Parker was the last of that tribe. She gave birth to Quanah Parker, who was the last chief of that tribe. She married the chief of the tribe, she had a baby with him. That baby, that half-American baby was Quanah Parker. He was the last chief of the Comanches.

• 1:57:01Speaker 01

  So now there's no more Comanches?

• 1:57:03Joe Rogan?

  I mean, they still exist, but they don't have a reservation, like, you know, like they don't have territory.

• 1:57:07Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 1:57:09Joe Rogan?

  It's, it's, they were nomadic and they, they ran all, I mean, I'm sure, is there a Comanche reservation? We should find that out.

• 1:57:15Speaker 01

  Probably not.

• 1:57:15Joe Rogan?

  But it's, they don't get represented, like, because they didn't have art. There's, there's a crazy civilization.

• 1:57:21Speaker 01

  Well, the dude was telling me that like, so there were four tribes considered the civilized tribes. And those are the people that agreed to like, stop fighting in the United States, to like, learn English, to like, be Christian, those kind of things. And they were promised Oklahoma, knowing that it was already commanded. And so they got out there and got the-

• 1:57:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the United States government did that with everybody.

• 1:57:44Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 1:57:44Joe Rogan?

  The Comanche Nation is a federally recognized tribe headquartered in Lawton, Oklahoma, but do they have a reservation there? There's no longer a Comanche reservation in Texas. The historical one established in 1854 near Clear Fork of the Brazos River in present day Thoc Morton County. The Comanche were later forced to relocate to Indian Territory, now known as Oklahoma in 1859, after the reservation was dissolved and the current Comanche Nation is based in Oklahoma. So they, it seems like they don't have a reservation.

• 1:58:15Speaker 01

  Bro, it's mad history that I'm so ignorant about.

• 1:58:18Joe Rogan?

  Gotta read this book, Empire of the Summer Moon. Get it on audio. It's incredible.

• 1:58:22Speaker 01

  Empire of the Summer Moon?

• 1:58:23Joe Rogan?

  Empire of the Summer Moon.

• 1:58:24Speaker 01

  I'll get it right now.

• 1:58:25Joe Rogan?

  It's all about the Comanche in Texas and in Oklahoma. But that's part of the story. So, like, what I was getting at is like, the history of Oklahoma is just seeped in violence.

• 1:58:34Speaker 01

  And it's, and it's still not fixed.

• 1:58:37Joe Rogan?

  It can't be.

• 1:58:38Speaker 01

  But a lot of people are moving there right now.

• 1:58:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, I bet. It's, a lot of people want to move to a place where they don't get fucked with as much. You know what California is starting-

• 1:58:45Speaker 01

  What's called a new?

• 1:58:46Joe Rogan?

  Empire of the Summer Moon. Um, you know what California is proposing? I don't know if they're gonna do this, if they're gonna be able to pull this off, but there's a new wealth tax. That's, basically, they're gonna tax your savings account.

• 1:59:00Speaker 03

  I looked it up. It's only for 200 billionaires.

• 1:59:03Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:59:04Speaker 03

  Is what that's for.

• 1:59:05Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean?

• 1:59:06Speaker 03

  It's not for like, every person.

• 1:59:08Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Even if it's for 200 billionaires, that's their fucking money. If you have a savings account, that means you paid taxes already. Like, that's the only way you get a savings account.

• 1:59:18Speaker 01

  Hold on, they're taxing, they're taxing billionaires' savings accounts?

• 1:59:21Joe Rogan?

  This is what I was reading today, when people were talking about the proposition, this proposition of a wealth tax for savings accounts. That sounds, if I'm not reading into this incorrectly-

• 1:59:32Speaker 03

  A one-time tax.

• 1:59:33Joe Rogan?

  It sounds crazy. Whatever.

• 1:59:35Speaker 03

  I'm just saying, I just-

• 1:59:36Joe Rogan?

  I understand. But why, why, why? Why do you get to have a one-time tax of money that's already taxed? California does not currently have a wealth tax, but multiple proposals have been introduced, including a recent one for a one-time 5% tax on individuals with a net worth of over 1 billion.

• 1:59:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm with Jamie on this. Fuck them.

• 1:59:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but not fuck them, because that could be used someday. Here's the thing, it's like, it's, it starts with them, and then it trickles down to someone who's worth 500,000, or 5 million, or whatever. 5% on money that you've already been taxed for. And then it goes to what, though, when you say fuck them? All it does is make more bloated government, because what are they gonna do? They're gonna spend it wisely? They never spend any money wisely.

• 2:00:16Speaker 01

  But the reason I say fuck them is because most of these billionaires, they, they go out of their way not to pay the taxes they're supposed to pay anyway. It's not like they're getting taxed, you know? A lot of these motherfuckers don't even pay any taxes.

• 2:00:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's not true. They all pay taxes. Everyone pays taxes. They, it's just, taxes on what? Like, a lot of them, the way it works is, all your money is in assets, and you get paid a certain amount by the company. Like, that's how, like, so when someone's worth X amount of money, that's not like how much money they have liquid.

• 2:00:45Speaker 01

  Right, right, I get it.

• 2:00:46Joe Rogan?

  You know, that's a lot of it. But the, the point is, no, the government should not be taking your money that's already been taxed. If that's, if I'm reading into this correctly, so if you get a paycheck from the mothership, and then, you know, you do your taxes, and then you take that money, and you put it in a savings account, you've already paid your taxes. So if you've already paid your taxes on that money, how can they tax money that you've already taxed? That's crazy. I don't give a fuck how much money they own. I don't care how mu- if there's a loophole in the tax code, fix the loophole. But if it's there, and that's the law, and they're able to skirt around that law in whatever way that's legal, you don't get to steal their money.

• 2:01:25Speaker 03

  According to the Washington Post, this is from a healthcare workers' union, that's a recent proposal, and it will go to fund healthcare spending.

• 2:01:34Speaker 03

  It still has to be voted on also.

• 2:01:36Joe Rogan?

  Bro, but either way, all you're doing is taking money from people. And the group believes this could raise about 100 billion, right? And what would they do with it? What did they do with the fire money? What happened to all the money that was raised for the Pacific Palisades fire? Does anybody know?

• 2:01:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, but that was a charity being corrupt. That wasn't the government.

• 2:01:55Joe Rogan?

  Right, but this is what I'm saying. It's the same thing. It's a group of people, you're giving them a bunch of money and they're supposed to allocate it in a positive way. Whether it's the government or whether it's a charity, who fucking trusts anybody that's doing these things? To be wise with the money where it makes sense, where you're a billionaire going, you know what? I like it. Take my 5% and we're gonna fix crime. No, you're not fixing shit. You're just gonna take my money and you're just gonna be more incompetent. Do you know when Gavin Newsom got into office, they had a surplus. California had a surplus.

• 2:02:28Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:02:28Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Um, why don't you Google that? What was the?

• 2:02:34Joe Rogan?

  What was the surplus of California? And during the time where Gavin Newsom was the governor, how much is the deficit now?

• 2:02:43Speaker 01

  Cause I only hear surplus regarding to Bill Clinton.

• 2:02:46Joe Rogan?

  Bro, they spent 24 billion dollars on the homeless crisis and it got worse. So this is what I'm saying, you're gonna take tax money and you're gonna do what with it? In 2022, California Governor Gavin Newsom announced record-breaking budget surplus of approximately 97.5 billion dollars, which was projected to fund new initiatives like cash payments to residents and investments in drought relief, childcare and education. However, the state later forced a significant budget deficit, excuse me. However, the state later faced a significant budget deficit primarily due to overestimating revenues from a booming stock market that later declined, coupled with increasing, increased spending

• 2:03:29Joe Rogan?

  commitments during the surplus period. By 2024, Newsom was proposing a budget to close a multi-billion dollar deficit, which required spending cuts and other measures to balance a budget. So the surplus of 97.5 billion dollars.

• 2:03:47Joe Rogan?

  It became a multi-billion dollar deficit in two years.

• 2:03:52Speaker 01

  Because of the stock market?

• 2:03:53Joe Rogan?

  It seems like there's a lot of stuff. Overestimating revenues, increased spending commitments, which is probably a big part of it. They probably spent too much money during the surplus period.

• 2:04:04Speaker 01

  What if they only-

• 2:04:05Joe Rogan?

  But the point is, it's mismanagement.

• 2:04:06Speaker 01

  What if they only taxed the people that's on the Epstein list?

• 2:04:08Joe Rogan?

  Ah, you only get so much. You just take all their money? Yeah, if you're on the list, take all your money. They'd probably only get a few hundred billion dollars. That's the thing. It's like, at the end of the day, you, you, they're gonna blow through that money. It sounds crazy, but they're gonna blow through that money. They blow through all the money.

• 2:04:24Speaker 01

  But it, you know, I mean, you're right. It's not fair on paper, but it's hard to have empathy for people that have way more than the people, you know what I mean?

• 2:04:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. I'm not having empathy. I'm just recognizing the law and recognizing where this goes. The problem with any, any decision that we make on people that have more money than us, eventually it's gonna trickle down to you. Because like, if they could just tax these people, because there's only 200 of them, they can't really talk too much shit. You're like, okay, but why are you doing that? Like, if they did something illegal to get that money, and you know, you're gonna punish them for that, I'm all with you. But if they have the money, and then it's in their savings account, and then you decide to tax the savings account because you need money, to do what? More incompetent bullshit? That's the problem. Like, they're not competent. If they were, if you're gonna take that 5% and you knew, this is gonna be what cleans up the Palisades. This is gonna be what fixes education. But it's not!

• 2:05:16Joe Rogan?

  It's not gonna do anything. The homeless crisis gets worse. It's bigger than ever.

• 2:05:21Speaker 01

  Well, that's a, that's a whole, the homeless thing is a whole racket. Because I, I, I experienced that firsthand.

• 2:05:27Joe Rogan?

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• 2:07:16Speaker 01

  It's just, it's just people making money. That money isn't going to actually help anybody that's on the streets. I mean, it kind of is, but not really, you know?

• 2:07:24Joe Rogan?

  It's, there's so many charities that are dirty. Just like people that are dirty, you know, like those creepy guys who pretend to be male feminists? And you know they're really a piece of shit? You know what I mean? Like, that's, that's the type of people that set up charities, but they really just want the money. Like, there's people that have run charities where the charity makes, the actual thing makes like 6%, 10% of the money generated. Most of it goes to the people. And they, they have lavish lifestyles. They get paid tremendous salaries.

• 2:07:53Speaker 01

  Did I ever tell you that the-

• 2:07:54Joe Rogan?

  To run charity.

• 2:07:55Speaker 01

  The shelter I was living in, how we, the guy that was running the place got, he got high, and then the, and then the executive had to show up, and he pulled up in a fucking Phantom with a fancy-ass suit on and a nice-ass- I was like, hold on, how the fuck is he? Because that's the first time it hit everybody, like, oh, this is a-

• 2:08:15Joe Rogan?

  It's a business.

• 2:08:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a business, yeah.

• 2:08:17Joe Rogan?

  It's a business. They're generating income, spending the least amount possible, providing you with the least amount of care that they have to, and then pocketing the rest. And say we got a high overhead, very high overhead.

• 2:08:27Speaker 01

  And as long as somebody dies.

• 2:08:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:28Speaker 01

  Because that's the thing, it's all a racket and everyone knows it's like all wink wink.

• 2:08:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:32Speaker 01

  But they were, the rules actually applied to the actual homeless residents.

• 2:08:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:37Speaker 01

  But it was all nonsense. It was like, they were real strict about you, make sure you sign in these papers saying you were doing these activities because they were getting grants for those things.

• 2:08:45Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:08:46Speaker 01

  But, I was like, well just put my signature on there, this is all bullshit.

• 2:08:50Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 2:08:50Speaker 01

  But, yeah, I think most charities are scam.

• 2:08:53Joe Rogan?

  Mo- most charities have an element of scam.

• 2:08:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:57Joe Rogan?

  But there's a lot of legitimate charities out there for sure. There's a lot of really good charitable people out there for sure.

• 2:09:01Speaker 01

  Well, well.

• 2:09:02Joe Rogan?

  Real people that are doing charities for the right reasons.

• 2:09:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, the workers, a lot of the workers are in there for the right reason.

• 2:09:06Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:09:07Speaker 01

  But it's, it's just like, um, it's just like colleges, right? Where it's like, it's, it's just that the entity has become so bloated with, because think, I think, can you look it up, Jamie? How, what, most of like the top universities, most of their money goes towards administration. So they've just cre- you know, they, first they hire people to collect the money, and then they gotta hire more people to watch over those people, then more people.

• 2:09:29Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:09:29Speaker 01

  Get more, and then before you know it, the, the whole admin side is so bloated that the college gets upside down if they don't raise tuition. You know, and it just keeps going, and it's just like, it just keeps going and going and going and going.

• 2:09:41Joe Rogan?

  And then they have donors, which is weird.

• 2:09:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't understand how that works.

• 2:09:46Joe Rogan?

  Crazy amounts of money. People donate to colleges.

• 2:09:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, that people love their alma maters, but there must be, there must be a tax thing too.

• 2:09:53Joe Rogan?

  Where does the money from most universities go? The money from most universities primarily goes towards faculty and staff salaries, student services and campus maintenance. Significant portion is also allocated to research, academic programs and scholarships. Universities spend on maintaining buildings and facilities, supporting student housing and dining, healthcare, technology upgrades, and activities like sports and events, government funding, tuition, investments, grants, donations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Eventually administrative costs and strategic initiatives also consume parts of the budget. Overall, salaries and wages usually make up the largest expenditure category for universities. So it's salaries.

• 2:10:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:32Joe Rogan?

  They get a lot of money.

• 2:10:33Speaker 01

  It's salary for the, for the, for the admin people, the fucking coaches.

• 2:10:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:38Speaker 01

  Some of those, some of those coaches.

• 2:10:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's weird, there's weird gigs that people have. Where like a, a major university will pay someone like a half a million dollars a year to do stuff. Like, does Elizabeth Warren get paid from Harvard still? You like, you could like-

• 2:10:53Speaker 01

  To like speak?

• 2:10:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like, you know who had one of them gigs? Biden. He had one of them gigs where they gave him like a million dollars a year and he pretended he was a professor. And then, you know, like, he, he said, "When I taught law at Penn State," or wherever it was. He taught law-

• 2:11:07Speaker 01

  It was like professor and maybe-

• 2:11:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he never taught a class. Like, it's all horseshit.

• 2:11:11Speaker 01

  Oh, he was never anybody's-

• 2:11:13Joe Rogan?

  He got one of them sweet gigs. Where you get, you get money from the university.

• 2:11:16Speaker 01

  Bro, sign me up.

• 2:11:19Joe Rogan?

  Those are like mafia jobs.

• 2:11:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll take a bullshit job in my heartbeat.

• 2:11:22Joe Rogan?

  Elizabeth Warren, currently United States Senator. Uh, she's on leave from her teaching position at Harvard and no longer receives a salary from the university. Her current annual salary as a senator is a hundred and seventy-four thousand dollars. She and her husband, also a Harvard professor, report additional income from book royalties and investments.

• 2:11:39Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:11:40Joe Rogan?

  Her salary for this P- two thousand ten to two thousand eleven was reported at four hundred and twenty-nine thousand dollars. Uh, this figure came under scrutiny during her first senate campaign with critics mischaracterizing it as payment for teaching only one class. PolitiFact rated this claim half true because the amount covered a two-year period in which she taught two classes. And was on leave to advise the Obama administration and also reflected her status as a high-ranking accomplished professor and researcher.

• 2:12:12Speaker 01

  Stop mischaracterizing Elizabeth, Joe.

• 2:12:14Joe Rogan?

  What is her net worth? Go, put that in there.

• 2:12:19Joe Rogan?

  Net worth. Let's find out.

• 2:12:22Speaker 01

  Bro, this shit's always wrong.

• 2:12:25Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:12:26Speaker 03

  It's not a good place to look.

• 2:12:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz I look, when the net worth shit, the internet be, they said, they said I'm worth four million dollars. I said, "Where the fuck that money at?"

• 2:12:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, maybe they just say you should be.

• 2:12:36Speaker 01

  I think people just be making up shit.

• 2:12:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, they definitely do that. Yeah, they definitely make up stuff. Especially those webs, that's like an, some Indian website. Some, some scammer dude is just faking it, just trying to get clicks.

• 2:12:47Speaker 01

  Maybe, yeah, maybe they say, uh, uh-

• 2:12:50Joe Rogan?

  Uh, it says an estimated, this is in open secrets.

• 2:12:55Speaker 01

  Oh, in the senate?

• 2:12:56Joe Rogan?

  In the senate, so an estimated net worth of seven million nine hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars.

• 2:13:02Speaker 01

  Bro, isn't-

• 2:13:02Joe Rogan?

  In two thousand eighteen. That was in two thousand eighteen she was worth that much.

• 2:13:07Speaker 01

  Isn't there an app where you can like match the stock trades of senators?

• 2:13:11Joe Rogan?

  Yes, the Pelosi tracker.

• 2:13:13Speaker 01

  Oh, it's just Pelosi, it's just her?

• 2:13:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's the best.

• 2:13:15Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:13:16Joe Rogan?

  She's the GOAT.

• 2:13:16Speaker 01

  So if you just make all the same moves she make, you'll be good?

• 2:13:20Joe Rogan?

  You'll make some money, yeah, a hundred percent. Especially if you act quick. I'm sure there's a lot of people doing exactly what she does, the moment she does it.

• 2:13:26Speaker 01

  I gotta get one of those guys and just be like, yeah, put it all on-

• 2:13:29Joe Rogan?

  She makes, okay, now she's worth thirty million.

• 2:13:31Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 2:13:32Joe Rogan?

  What's that?

• 2:13:33Speaker 03

  This is the Pelosi tracker.

• 2:13:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:13:34Speaker 03

  There's fourteen thousand five hundred and fifty seven copiers.

• 2:13:38Joe Rogan?

  I was gonna say, she's worth way more than thirty million, right?

• 2:13:40Speaker 03

  They've invested that much money.

• 2:13:41Joe Rogan?

  Isn't she worth like a couple hundred million?

• 2:13:43Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 2:13:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's worth a lot.

• 2:13:45Speaker 01

  She's about to retire.

• 2:13:46Joe Rogan?

  Of course, she's got four hundred million dollars, she's a million years old. Why is she still working? It's crazy.

• 2:13:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:13:53Joe Rogan?

  Imagine working at that age, eighty-two?

• 2:13:56Speaker 01

  I think they're addicted to the power.

• 2:13:59Joe Rogan?

  Power.

• 2:13:59Speaker 01

  You can't, you can't have-

• 2:14:01Speaker 03

  This is bringing up Marjorie Taylor Greene's recent stock trades.

• 2:14:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's been making some stock trades?

• 2:14:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, follows everybody.

• 2:14:07Joe Rogan?

  Bro, they all do.

• 2:14:08Speaker 01

  Follows everyone.

• 2:14:08Joe Rogan?

  They all do. They all do.

• 2:14:10Speaker 01

  I think that's, I think that's, that should be illegal.

• 2:14:12Joe Rogan?

  It should be illegal.

• 2:14:13Speaker 01

  I don't think anyone in the federal government should be able to trade stocks.

• 2:14:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, especially with stuff where you have some inside knowledge about a bill that's gonna be passed, it would be very, very good for some corporation.

• 2:14:23Speaker 01

  Right. Or, or they all have to invest through like, there's like, there's a nonpartisan government agency where they can put all their money they wanna invest, that invests everyone's money in the same thing?

• 2:14:33Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no.

• 2:14:34Speaker 01

  No?

• 2:14:34Joe Rogan?

  Because you start doing that and then you got more corruption, more room for bureaucracy, more room for bullshit. You got too much money flowing around, they're not gonna be, they're not gonna be even with that.

• 2:14:43Speaker 01

  So then what do you say to the argument that they, they should be able to?

• 2:14:45Joe Rogan?

  No!

• 2:14:45Speaker 01

  No?

• 2:14:46Joe Rogan?

  No, you're insider trading.

• 2:14:47Speaker 03

  What if they just tell people to do it for them? How do you stop that?

• 2:14:50Speaker 01

  Well, that's what they're supposed to be doing now, but-

• 2:14:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, what's the end?

• 2:14:53Joe Rogan?

  That could be, no, that could be a problem, but at least then they could catch you and you can get in trouble. That's how insider trading works, like, so say if they- Do that and they do it, you know, through WhatsApp or something like that. And then the government gets access to your WhatsApp and then they find out you've been trading.

• 2:15:08Speaker 03

  That email thing with the lady getting emailed during it.

• 2:15:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:12Speaker 03

  What?

• 2:15:13Speaker 01

  No, if it were up to me, it'd be Judge Dredd shit. We're like, you get, you get four terms and then they take you out and they just put, they put you out in the desert with nothing. They take all your shit, donate it back to the people and they just send you out. You was, you were in charge for, you know, have a long and now get the fuck out of here.

• 2:15:29Joe Rogan?

  Like, there's no way you make a hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year and you're worth. Let's say she's worth a hundred and eighty million. I've, I've heard it's a lot more than that. I've, I've heard estimates as high as four hundred million, but there's no way a regular person who makes a hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year ever gets there and keeps that one hundred and seventy thousand dollar a year job. Get the fuck out of here. There's not a chance in hell you keep that one hundred and seventy thousand dollar a year job where you're working eight hours a day, every fucking day. And on the side, you've racked up four hundred million. Well, bitch, that's what you're good at. Imagine if you were doing that all day long while you've been working in the Senate. You would have even more money. Are you crazy?

• 2:16:11Joe Rogan?

  You're wasting all your valuable time and resources doing a job that pays you one hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year. But it has nothing to do with your investments. Why, why would you even suspect that it has anything to do with the profit that I make from my investments?

• 2:16:23Speaker 01

  Is she the richest person in Congress?

• 2:16:26Joe Rogan?

  She's gotta be up there.

• 2:16:27Speaker 01

  She can't be.

• 2:16:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's probably some billionaires who signed up and, and won and got into office somewhere. There's probably a lot of them.

• 2:16:35Speaker 01

  But they're all, the thing is, they're all richer when they leave.

• 2:16:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, Bloomberg, wasn't he like a multi billionaire when he became the mayor of New York City?

• 2:16:41Speaker 01

  I'm not, I don't know.

• 2:16:42Joe Rogan?

  I think he was. Isn't Michael, Michael Bloomberg is crazy rich. I think he was a billionaire while he became mayor because he wanted to fix New York City because he loved it. That's the.

• 2:16:52Speaker 01

  Did he, did he, did it work?

• 2:16:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, I was just there, it was nice. I mean.

• 2:16:57Speaker 03

  Worth a hundred and nine billion estimated?

• 2:16:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He's worth a lot of money. Imagine.

• 2:17:01Speaker 03

  Richest person.

• 2:17:02Speaker 01

  Bro, those sandwiches, those sandwiches you put up?

• 2:17:04Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, Giovanni's Italian Deli, bro.

• 2:17:07Joe Rogan?

  You could barely get your mouth on them. They're like that big. I want him to come out here. I want him to open up a, a, a deli out here.

• 2:17:13Speaker 01

  Well, you, you talking to him about it?

• 2:17:15Joe Rogan?

  He said he would be interested in doing it. I mean, look, he's a fucking hilarious character. He's a very funny guy. And his food is fucking sensational and all that gets imported from Italy. So he can import it from Italy.

• 2:17:29Speaker 01

  All the ingredients?

• 2:17:30Joe Rogan?

  Yes, everything is imported from Italy.

• 2:17:32Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 2:17:32Joe Rogan?

  Or the mortadella, the mozzarella, all that stuff. So he's getting it all from Italy. All the sun dried peppers. Bro, it's sensational.

• 2:17:42Speaker 01

  I mean, it looked good. I've still never had.

• 2:17:44Joe Rogan?

  Next time.

• 2:17:44Speaker 01

  I never had a chance to try it.

• 2:17:45Joe Rogan?

  Next time. Next time I go to New York, you're coming with me.

• 2:17:47Speaker 01

  Alright, deal.

• 2:17:48Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you, you're gonna feel so bad the next day though. Oh my God, Sunday, I was like, I'm not eating, I'm not eating anymore. I looked like I was pregnant. My stomach was out like that far. I ate so much.

• 2:17:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:17:59Joe Rogan?

  He gave me a four foot long sandwich, dude. It was four feet long. I just kept stuffing it in my fat face.

• 2:18:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was getting.

• 2:18:05Joe Rogan?

  I ate meatballs. I ate four or five cannolis. I ate so much. I should not have gone that deep.

• 2:18:11Speaker 01

  What, did they cater the, the event? Because why, why do they drop off giant sandwiches?

• 2:18:15Joe Rogan?

  He just does it for me. Does like, I've blown him up online. I've blown him up on the podcast. His, his deli's killing it.

• 2:18:23Speaker 01

  That's a good guy.

• 2:18:23Joe Rogan?

  He's a great guy. And I found them just randomly. G and R Deli in the Bronx. That's how I found them.

• 2:18:29Speaker 01

  After you left?

• 2:18:30Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 2:18:31Speaker 01

  After you left New York. This is like.

• 2:18:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, this is recently. This is like within a couple of years. I, I, you know, because most of the time I eat really clean. And most of the time it's just meat. But when I go off, I go, I like to really go off.

• 2:18:44Speaker 01

  I've seen you literally like eat like a hostage. Like somebody that just got released.

• 2:18:49Joe Rogan?

  It's a problem. I'm a real glutton, man. I, I, I eat massive. It's not just eating food that I shouldn't be eating. I'll eat a massive amount of it.

• 2:18:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, some good pasta. It's hard to stop.

• 2:19:01Joe Rogan?

  I can't stop.

• 2:19:02Speaker 01

  It's hard to stop.

• 2:19:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Well, so I ate at this place, Terese with my wife on Friday night. That was incredible. It's Italian food. I ate way too much there. Way, it was sensational. And then the next day, Giovanni shows up with these two giants. Four foot sandwiches, but I've my rule is when I'm in New York, all bets are off. All that diet shit's out the window. I'm eating for fun. I'm just eating for fun when I'm in New York.

• 2:19:27Speaker 01

  My greedy ass, I ate it, I ate it, uh, Dai Dui, how you say?

• 2:19:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Dai Dui, yeah.

• 2:19:32Speaker 01

  Dai Dui on Sunday and then I, and then I did sushi by scratch last night.

• 2:19:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my gosh. Shout out to Jesse Griffiths. Jeff, Jesse's the head chef and the owner of Dai Dui. He's the man.

• 2:19:41Speaker 01

  Right. That, I stumbled on that place and I, I thought I was putting you on you like, oh, I know that guy.

• 2:19:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I found out about that place years ago because he was on my friend Steven Rinella's podcast. And I was like, oh, that guy's so interesting. And so I actually had, I don't know if I had him on my podcast before I ate at his restaurant. Or after, I don't remember. But then we went to his restaurant like during the pandemic when we first moved here. And it was like you had to be spread out. We actually ate outside the first time we did it because we couldn't eat inside yet.

• 2:20:12Speaker 01

  Bro, and you know, you know what I, because I love, because you know, it's great restaurants all over Austin. And I, and I know, I know it's gonna be good whenever the staff is generally happy to be there. Like you go on Dai Dui, e- everyone fucking loves it there. Especially like if you see old people working there. Yeah, you see somebody, they're like, you know, just pushing fifty and they still love, and they happy and gingerly. That it's, you know, it's gonna be good.

• 2:20:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Dai Dui is sensational.

• 2:20:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, the thing, and the thing about them is everything is from Texas. There's nothing in there, you can't, like you can't even get like a Diet Coke in there. They don't have anything that ain't from Texas. Nothing.

• 2:20:54Joe Rogan?

  So good too.

• 2:20:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:20:56Joe Rogan?

  And he always has like exotic shit on the menu.

• 2:20:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, the menu is always changing, but you can always get those, um, those pork chops.

• 2:21:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yes, pork chops are sensational, sensational. Yeah, everything's sensational. Jesse's like one of the best chefs in the country.

• 2:21:10Speaker 01

  I've been there enough times now where I know like anything you order is gonna be good.

• 2:21:14Joe Rogan?

  We are spoiled here, bro.

• 2:21:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, big time.

• 2:21:17Joe Rogan?

  There's so much good food in Texas and specifically in Austin.

• 2:21:21Speaker 01

  At the, at the medium to high level. The fast food is trash. Like if you, no, seriously, like if you, if you're, if it's not a Texas fast food place. I, I, it's, it's such a phenomenon to me like.

• 2:21:34Joe Rogan?

  Like what's trash?

• 2:21:35Speaker 01

  Like e- everything that's not a Texas, like Dan's is great. Whataburger is great, but like, but like Chick-fil-A is not as good. McDonald's is not as good.

• 2:21:44Joe Rogan?

  What? Chick-fil-A's not as good?

• 2:21:46Speaker 01

  Wendy's is terrible.

• 2:21:47Joe Rogan?

  I had Chick-fil-A like a month ago. It was amazing.

• 2:21:49Speaker 01

  No, it's okay, but, but it's, but it's, it's not up to the.

• 2:21:52Joe Rogan?

  It's different?

• 2:21:53Speaker 01

  The service is not as, I mean Chick-fil-A tastes the same everywhere.

• 2:21:56Joe Rogan?

  You go inside to Chick-fil-A?

• 2:21:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I'm going inside or, or if I order it.

• 2:21:59Joe Rogan?

  Chick-fil-A is a drive-through thing, man. You wanna eat in your car like a pig.

• 2:22:04Speaker 01

  But, but.

• 2:22:04Joe Rogan?

  Like a disgusting person who hates himself.

• 2:22:05Speaker 01

  But Chick-fil-A might be somewhat of an exception, but like even In-N-Out, even In-N-Out here is not as good.

• 2:22:11Joe Rogan?

  Were, were you telling me that Chick-fil-A has like aluminum in it? Were you one of those who's telling me?

• 2:22:14Speaker 01

  No, that's probably Kurt Metzger.

• 2:22:15Speaker 03

  That was Tony, I think.

• 2:22:16Joe Rogan?

  It was Tony? Yeah, it was Tony. Yeah, he was saying Chick-fil-A has aluminum in it or something.

• 2:22:21Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:22:21Joe Rogan?

  What does it have in it? What is the controversial ingredient?

• 2:22:24Speaker 03

  It's, I think it's the buns or something, but it's aluminum, it's in a lot of stuff.

• 2:22:29Speaker 01

  Aluminum what though? It's not just aluminum.

• 2:22:31Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, no, it's not. It's like, oh.

• 2:22:33Joe Rogan?

  It's foil. They grind up foil and it makes it thicker.

• 2:22:37Speaker 01

  But sometimes cer- certain names sound scary.

• 2:22:41Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 2:22:42Speaker 01

  But it's just, it's something normal.

• 2:22:44Joe Rogan?

  Right, like vitamin C sounds scary. Exorbic acid, like, oh no.

• 2:22:48Speaker 03

  Sodium aluminum phosphate.

• 2:22:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, is that a preservative? Man, fuck preservatives. That's what's wrong with us. Everything is preserving your gut biome. It's all getting in there, all this bacteria.

• 2:23:01Speaker 01

  Sodium aluminum phosphate, a food additive. Yeah, I don't think that's bad.

• 2:23:07Speaker 01

  But also, also I, I've probably eaten so much of whatever that is.

• 2:23:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:23:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:23:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:23:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's.

• 2:23:15Joe Rogan?

  When you think about like food like that, you're just not supposed to eat it every day. That's all it is. It's really good if you just wanna eat it and enjoy it. Like, you ever have canes, those chicken fingers?

• 2:23:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I've had canes.

• 2:23:26Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, those are good.

• 2:23:26Speaker 01

  Canes, yeah, canes, canes is pretty good.

• 2:23:28Joe Rogan?

  Pretty, if you, just don't do it every day. Just every now and again, but again, even canes.

• 2:23:34Speaker 01

  Even Canes is better in other places.

• 2:23:36Joe Rogan?

  What? Are you a Canes connoisseur?

• 2:23:38Speaker 01

  No, no, but I'm just, I've eaten, I'm a fast food, I've eaten a lot of fast food.

• 2:23:43Joe Rogan?

  I've heard that In-N-Out here is not as good.

• 2:23:45Speaker 01

  In-N-Out here is not as good.

• 2:23:46Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:23:47Speaker 01

  Wendy's is not as good.

• 2:23:48Joe Rogan?

  Does the In-N-Out here have the same?

• 2:23:50Speaker 01

  KFC is bad.

• 2:23:51Joe Rogan?

  Does it In-N-Out here have the same sort of menu, or you can get off-menu stuff?

• 2:23:56Speaker 01

  No, it's the same, it's the same everything, except the service sucks and the food is not as, it's just not as consistent. You know what I mean?

• 2:24:03Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:24:03Speaker 01

  Like, cause I've never, before being, before here, I've never been to it, cause you know, like Chick-fil-A and In-N-Out, that's a certain standard. Especially if you're coming from LA.

• 2:24:12Joe Rogan?

  But you said McDonald's too.

• 2:24:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, the McDonald's here is trash.

• 2:24:15Speaker 03

  It's a food distribution issue.

• 2:24:17Joe Rogan?

  Is it?

• 2:24:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. This happened once when McDonald's actually bought like my favorite pizza place from Ohio. They couldn't expand it, right? Because like you couldn't get the same ingredients you get in Ohio.

• 2:24:26Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:24:28Speaker 03

  So you don't like your quality.

• 2:24:29Joe Rogan?

  But doesn't McDonald's like send all the ingredients to all their places?

• 2:24:32Speaker 03

  But that means you don't have one giant McDonald's farm.

• 2:24:35Joe Rogan?

  You don't?

• 2:24:36Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:24:37Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:24:38Speaker 03

  I mean, we would know where that is, you know?

• 2:24:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, you imagine the slaughter going on at the McDonald's farm? How many fucking cows are losing their life?

• 2:24:46Speaker 03

  You gotta source that shit locally.

• 2:24:47Speaker 01

  But if I'm gonna eat at McDonald's in any city.

• 2:24:50Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:24:50Speaker 01

  I owe, you can, you can find the good McDonald's. Like you just Google, "with the good McDonald's in Detroit," whatever. But here there aren't any. They're all terrible, they're all terrible.

• 2:24:59Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 2:25:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:25:00Joe Rogan?

  And so it's a food distribution thing?

• 2:25:02Speaker 03

  I'm pretty sure.

• 2:25:03Joe Rogan?

  How are they getting bad beef in Texas?

• 2:25:05Speaker 03

  It's not bad beef, but it's just not the same.

• 2:25:08Speaker 01

  It's not consistent.

• 2:25:08Speaker 03

  It's not the exact same. So the processing might not have the.

• 2:25:11Speaker 01

  Cause the thing is, it's not, it's not great food. You eat at McDonald's because you know what you're gonna get.

• 2:25:15Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:25:16Speaker 01

  It's, it tastes just like it does every other time you've had it, but it's not cause it's the best. But when it, so when you, when you settle for McDonald's, right, and you've, and you just, you know, it's like.

• 2:25:26Joe Rogan?

  You have a standard.

• 2:25:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like calling your ex, you know, it's like you settle for it and it's not as good. You're just like, no, it's like, it's gotta taste like I'm expecting.

• 2:25:35Joe Rogan?

  Got it.

• 2:25:36Speaker 01

  You know, but it's just, it's just off.

• 2:25:37Speaker 03

  Have you ever seen some people argue that restaurants are just who can cook the best Cisco food?

• 2:25:43Joe Rogan?

  So it's like they're all getting it from the same kind of distributor.

• 2:25:45Speaker 01

  Well, I think most of them are.

• 2:25:47Joe Rogan?

  Really? But it's, I mean, that's a, that's a, that's really dwindling it down to the base of like, that's not really what everything's happening.

• 2:25:53Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah, like, I'm pretty sure if you see, like, Southwest Egg Rolls, like, it's probably a 50% chance that that came from a Cisco freezer.

• 2:26:00Joe Rogan?

  You know that Mexican place you turned me on to went under?

• 2:26:03Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:26:03Joe Rogan?

  That was a bummer.

• 2:26:04Speaker 01

  I can't believe it.

• 2:26:05Joe Rogan?

  Bolvar, is that what it's called? No, no, that's not what it's called. Bolvar's a place that's still up.

• 2:26:08Speaker 01

  I don't even remember what it was called, man, but it was incredible.

• 2:26:11Joe Rogan?

  It was so good.

• 2:26:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, maybe they just moved. Maybe I need to look, look them up, because I forget the name of it.

• 2:26:15Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, man. I think they went under, because they spent a lot of money on that place. Remember the artwork in that place?

• 2:26:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, the location was not, because they weren't near any other restaurants.

• 2:26:24Joe Rogan?

  It wasn't terrible, though. It wasn't hard to find.

• 2:26:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's still off the path of, like, anywhere, like, if you had to go over there, there was no other reason to go over there, unless you lived over there.

• 2:26:33Joe Rogan?

  But you'd go over there for a restaurant. Like, it seemed like they were packed when I was there. That's what was confusing.

• 2:26:37Speaker 01

  They were, they were, but towards the end, it started being less and less.

• 2:26:43Joe Rogan?

  That happens, man. People get excited about a new place, and it's, it's popping at first, and then it just sort of dies off.

• 2:26:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, but that's, but that's the first one of my, of a, that's the first time I've seen a great restaurant go under that I, that I liked.

• 2:26:55Joe Rogan?

  I know, and quick.

• 2:26:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was, it was probably a year.

• 2:26:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a fucking tough business, man. That's a tough business.

• 2:27:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it, and it was, and that was started by a guy that, like, knew what he was doing.

• 2:27:06Joe Rogan?

  That's how tough it is.

• 2:27:08Speaker 01

  Right? Don't you know the guy?

• 2:27:10Joe Rogan?

  Um, I met him.

• 2:27:12Speaker 01

  No, okay, yeah.

• 2:27:13Joe Rogan?

  I met him there.

• 2:27:14Speaker 01

  Um, ah, you know what I wish they would bring here is a bizarre meat.

• 2:27:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:27:18Speaker 01

  I mean, it's probably, he probably would go to, like, a bigger city than Austin, maybe, but...

• 2:27:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's got one in Chicago. He just opened up one in New York.

• 2:27:26Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 2:27:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we ate at the one in Chicago. It was great.

• 2:27:29Speaker 01

  Oh, of course.

• 2:27:30Joe Rogan?

  And the new one in Vegas, he's got a new one in Vegas. He moved spots.

• 2:27:33Speaker 01

  Okay, to a different casino?

• 2:27:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, same deal, though. Oh, sensational.

• 2:27:37Speaker 01

  It's gotta be.

• 2:27:37Joe Rogan?

  Sensational, off the charts.

• 2:27:39Speaker 01

  Oh, bro, and they always look out.

• 2:27:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're great. Yeah, and Jose Andres came on the podcast, the head chef. He was great. Such a nice guy, man. That guy genuine like, you want to talk about real charity? That guy genuinely goes to like war torn regions, anywhere there's a some sort of a natural disaster. And he brings trucks and they start cooking and they feed people for free.

• 2:28:03Speaker 01

  They feed people that level of food.

• 2:28:05Joe Rogan?

  Yes, his food, his food. He loves helping people, like genuinely loves helping people and loves cooking for people. And, and, and he, he went to Poland and was catching the Ukrainian refugees when they were leaving Ukraine. These people were starving and he set up shop, started feeding them. That's, that's how good a guy that is.

• 2:28:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he's a master.

• 2:28:27Joe Rogan?

  Master chef.

• 2:28:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:28Joe Rogan?

  His restaurants are incredible. He came in here, he was making food for us while we were doing the podcast.

• 2:28:32Speaker 01

  How, like he had a hot plate?

• 2:28:34Joe Rogan?

  He had a piece of ham, he was cutting off ham and shit and.

• 2:28:37Speaker 01

  Oh, he had like that fancy ass ham.

• 2:28:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, hamon, hamon, this thin sliced, remember that?

• 2:28:42Speaker 01

  It comes with like a stand.

• 2:28:43Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm, yeah, man. He gave me a whole leg. I took it home with me.

• 2:28:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, that'll, it'll last forever.

• 2:28:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it lasts forever, it's cured.

• 2:28:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:51Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it's so good, it's so good.

• 2:28:53Speaker 01

  Good food's gonna be the downfall of me.

• 2:28:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you could have both.

• 2:28:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can have both.

• 2:28:57Joe Rogan?

  You just gotta, you gotta have like, you ever see The Rock's cheat meals?

• 2:29:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:02Joe Rogan?

  On Sundays, The Rock will have these legendary cheat meals. I don't know if he still does it, but he would post them on Instagram. It's like a stack of pancakes, giant chocolate chip cookies.

• 2:29:10Speaker 01

  The Rock shrunk down now, like John Cena.

• 2:29:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:29:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:14Joe Rogan?

  I think he got too big because he did that movie, the, uh, the movie about Mark Kerr, the smashing machine.

• 2:29:20Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:29:21Joe Rogan?

  By, by the way, it didn't get the love it deserves. It's a really good movie. It's not just an MMA movie. It's a very realistic MMA movie too. It's like really, he like, The Rock is Mark Kerr. They even gave him like a forehead thing, like a prosthesis, so he looked more like a Neanderthal, like Mark Kerr does.

• 2:29:39Speaker 01

  I thought he was gonna get a nomination for that.

• 2:29:41Joe Rogan?

  He gained thirty pounds of muscle, wore twenty two prosthetics and trained in MMA camp to physically transform for his role as Mark Kerr. Look what he looked like. Scroll up so you can see what he looked like. Look what he looked like there. That's Mark. That's the actual Mark and that's The Rock next to him. But that's The Rock, obviously, playing Mark when he was younger.

• 2:29:58Speaker 01

  Oh, is Mark cursed alive?

• 2:29:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, he did my podcast recently.

• 2:30:01Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:30:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, man, that Smashing Machine documentary is crazy.

• 2:30:06Speaker 01

  I thought The Rock was gonna get a nominee for that.

• 2:30:08Joe Rogan?

  He should've. He should've. It's re- he did a fantastic job, but nobody watched it. It's one of those just slipped under. If it comes out to streaming, I can't recommend it enough. It's a really good movie. And it's not just an MMA movie. It's like, there's moments in that movie where you get anxiety, like, oh my god, don't do that. Jesus Christ, what are you doing?

• 2:30:26Speaker 01

  Mmm.

• 2:30:26Joe Rogan?

  It's one of those movies. It's crazy. But he does a phenomenal job. Phenomenal.

• 2:30:30Speaker 03

  He hasn't not been nominated yet. They haven't come out yet.

• 2:30:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no. He, well, he should be for that. I don't think he will get, you know, it's hard. The Academy and a martial arts movie and it's like, you know, it's for meatheads.

• 2:30:43Speaker 01

  Jimmy, I'm surprised you ain't got no sponsorships with a search app.

• 2:30:47Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 2:30:48Speaker 01

  What you mean? You're literally known for looking shit up.

• 2:30:50Speaker 03

  Well, they should call me.

• 2:30:52Joe Rogan?

  Holler at your boy. Um, let's wrap this bitch up.

• 2:30:56Speaker 01

  Let's get it.

• 2:30:57Joe Rogan?

  So tell everybody, name your special, where they can get it.

• 2:31:00Speaker 01

  Uh, special is, uh, Live from Mothership. You can see it right now, streaming on Netflix. You can also, uh, watch the Don't Tell thing, just came out, and you can come see me on tour, bransoncomedy.com, and my podcast BS with Brian Simpson, also on YouTube and all the other streaming platforms.

• 2:31:13Joe Rogan?

  And I will see you in a few hours. We're gonna have some fun.

• 2:31:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:31:16Joe Rogan?

  Tonight, let's go. All right. Goodbye, everybody.

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