The Snack: Jalen Hurts, Vanderpump Villa, and Is Bill Belichick OK?

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Martha Stewart's Uber Eats controversy The Academy now has to watch all nominated films Eagles' White House visit & Jalen Hurts skipping Bill Belichick being whipped by his 24yo girlfriend Cowboy Carter tour kickoff Our post-Stagecoach hang with Jelly Roll Vanderpump Villa and The Valley Headlines: Travis Kelce unfollowing Ryan Reynolds, new Golden Bachelor, and Gwyneth Paltrow eating carbs Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Aura Frames: Get $35 off and free shipping on the Carver Mat frame at https://auraframes.com with code GGE. Nutrafol: Get $10 off any order and free shipping when you subscribe at https://nutrafol.com with code GGEGIFT. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome to the snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi guys.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi guys.

• 0:12Rayna Greenberg?

  What's been up?

• 0:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  What's poppin'?

• 0:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I've been dying to tell you this thing that happened on my way over.

• 0:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 0:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome to the snack.

• 0:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Do we usually say that?

• 0:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 0:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, well, you pre- you record. There's a thing that says, "Welcome to the snack."

• 0:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, right.

• 0:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Right?

• 0:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is our first day.

• 0:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, so this, my, I often get my neighbors' packages and they get mine all the time because I'm not gonna like give you guys my house number. But like, I live at like 100 and they live at like 100 and a half.

• 0:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  The half is weird.

• 0:37Rayna Greenberg?

  They live, like, their house is, like, connected to the back of mine.

• 0:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Imagine having the half. It's so embarrassing. No, when I would like look at houses, I'm like, "I'm not living in a half."

• 0:44Rayna Greenberg?

  If I had to live in the half, I would like, I would like lobby the state. Like, how do you get that change?

• 0:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Lobby the state.

• 0:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Is that why people like email senators? Like, I don't, I don't know what I would do.

• 0:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're like a half a person.

• 0:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I can't be in the half. You could be in the half. I live in the full, you're in the half next door.

• 1:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I think their house is actually, I was gonna say my house is nicer than theirs. I think theirs is actually bigger than mine. But anyway, so I get their packages a lot. And, um, I have the husband's cellphone number because I'm, the only thing we ever talk about is I got your packages. Don't drop them. So this morning, I saw that I had gotten one of their packages. And so I was in my pajamas, taking the trash out, which is the only reason I want to get a boyfriend, is so somebody can take those trash cans out.

• 1:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't care about anything else.

• 1:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's, it is their main chore.

• 1:26Rayna Greenberg?

  It, I don't, it's the only thing I want a man for.

• 1:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is there, is there any woman out there in a relationship with a man that's taking the trash out? Because says, "Let's talk."

• 1:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I have to like get, so I worry that people are gonna go through my trash at night on the street because I live in Venice. So I take it out in the morning. And I have to get up at like 6:30 to do this. Anyways.

• 1:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  What? Okay, you need to put this in your dating app. Just looking for a man to take the trash out.

• 1:51Rayna Greenberg?

  That is what I'm looking for.

• 1:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Even though men are trash. Which is weird.

• 1:56Rayna Greenberg?

  That's why they have to deal with the trash. Like, like attracts like.

• 1:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Trash, take yourself out. Okay.

• 2:02Rayna Greenberg?

  So I was in my pajamas. I took the trash and I got one of their packages. So I was gonna bring it over to them. And so I did. I tossed it over the gate and I tripped so hard. I didn't ju- I fell.

• 2:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  You fell in your pajamas?

• 2:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And I was like, okay, no one saw. So then I realized there was a security camera pointed right at me.

• 2:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh.

• 2:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think they watched?

• 2:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Their group chats, they have a family chat. The kids have watched it. A hundred percent. You're gonna end up on one of those compilations.

• 2:31Rayna Greenberg?

  And they're, I'm gonna be on Ring Cam.

• 2:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 2:34Rayna Greenberg?

  They're also like not an age where I'm like, they won't make fun of it. They're too old to make, like, your parents would be kind at least.

• 2:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh.

• 2:40Rayna Greenberg?

  They're not a kind age.

• 2:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, like, that's timeless, is making fun of people falling. Jenny, did you see what Jenny posted this morning?

• 2:49Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 2:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jenny Jones, a good friend of ours, her caught on the Ring Cam, this teenager hitting her car.

• 2:55Rayna Greenberg?

  With his car?

• 2:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and kept it, kept driving, hit and run, caught on the Ring Cam. She's like, okay. Her car's all fucked up. You see it happen?

• 3:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Can you get the license plate off of it or no?

• 3:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's the kid, I think the kid might live in the neighborhood. I didn't see all the details. But yeah, I think they're gonna have to figure it out. I think it's pretty obvious.

• 3:14Rayna Greenberg?

  On the car?

• 3:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 3:16Rayna Greenberg?

  That is crazy. I don't know if I, gun to my head, if I'd wanna watch somebody hit my car. I think it's too like upsetting to me. I don't wanna watch it.

• 3:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  And drive away?

• 3:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I can't watch it.

• 3:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, everybody makes mistakes. Like, if you hit it, you stopped your car, you got out, you looked around, tried to find me, you left a note, but to keep it moving, I...

• 3:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  I might have to kill you.

• 3:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 3:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not if you can't find me.

• 3:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm too insulted. It's the insult for me. It's not the vandalism, it's the insult for me. I just, I know that I am on a group chat this morning and everyone's making fun of me. I'm tripping.

• 3:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's the pajamas.

• 3:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I tripped down a step.

• 3:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  What pajamas? Were they sexy?

• 3:50Rayna Greenberg?

  They were, they are sexy.

• 3:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I knew it. They weren't too, no, actually it was on my bed. It's my skims black, the ones that we both have, like a set. It's a set. Cuter than you dress when you're pajamas.

• 4:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's fair.

• 4:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not like a big T.

• 4:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, you don't see me at night. You sent me a photo the other day with that helmet on.

• 4:12Rayna Greenberg?

  The other day.

• 4:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I bought some new cute pajamas from Negative.

• 4:17Rayna Greenberg?

  You did? That's nice.

• 4:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, before that, I always wore Tommy John. I just, you've seen me in a big sleepy shirt once. You wear a big sleepy shirt once. All right, let's thank our partners.

• 4:27Rayna Greenberg?

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• 4:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Nutriful. Get $10 off any order and free shipping when you subscribe at nutrafol.com with code GGE gift. Okay, so we're gonna kick it off with a fraud report. And that's a little snarky, but-

• 4:49Rayna Greenberg?

  It's about politics. We're just kidding. But it could be.

• 4:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's just the whole administration is a constant fraud report.

• 4:55Rayna Greenberg?

  2025.

• 4:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, so you know, we say this with love because we are kicking it off with Martha Stewart.

• 5:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Queen of our life.

• 5:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's a fraud. No, always free Martha, but tell us what happened, Raina.

• 5:08Rayna Greenberg?

  So Uber Eats spokesperson Martha Stewart admits she has never ordered food delivery. So she was on an interview with, was it Kelly Clarkson?

• 5:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 5:16Rayna Greenberg?

  And she admits that she's never ordered food delivery and she says she cooks or she doesn't eat, or they go out or she doesn't eat, but she would never-

• 5:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Kelly Clarkson was like, you don't ever have a moment where you're thinking like, it's time for Taco Bell like right now? And Martha was like- That was a weird thing to say. I get it. It's funny, but I never would have thought Martha Stewart was ordering Taco Bell. Let's be real. That's a cute, funny thing for Kelly to say, but like, you never ordered like a five star meal, Martha, you know, like, but is she an actually Uber Eats spokesperson or was she just in like a Super Bowl commercial?

• 5:50Rayna Greenberg?

  She was the 2025 Super Bowl commercial.

• 5:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so arguably the biggest-

• 5:54Rayna Greenberg?

  True.

• 5:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Fair. I respect Martha, anything she does always. She's such a queen. I think Uber Eats should have been like, hey, can you just order this once? Like, can you just, just to say you did it? Like, I don't think that- Jennifer Aniston used Aveeno lotion every day.

• 6:12Rayna Greenberg?

  That's true.

• 6:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Whoever the fuck Kendall Jenner uses L'Oréal or whatever, all those high.

• 6:17Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, those people aren't saying I'd never used makeup or lotion before, you know, like I.

• 6:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  True.

• 6:22Rayna Greenberg?

  It is so true.

• 6:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've never used lotion. It's, I mean, she is just, she's gonna do her always, but I think Uber Eats should have been like, can you just order, we'll send it, just so you can say you did it, because we are paying you millions of dollars.

• 6:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think, so you and I get these contracts that, for example, like if we do a contract for social media posts with Delta, the contract will typically say for 60 to 90 days, you can't post about another airline or something. Do you think Uber Eats was like, you can't announce to the world for 60 to 90 days that you don't order delivery? And she's like, today's the day.

• 6:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I doubt they even thought of that. But I just think that contract should have been like, must order once, must feel like a commoner once.

• 7:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, Taco Bell was a weird example. You've never been like drunk and high and been like, Chinese food sounds good, like pizza, like.

• 7:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, do you think like food delivery was really in its prime when she was in jail? You know, like, do you think, no, I'm saying, do you think she missed the moment?

• 7:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I think the moment is now. It's the moment.

• 7:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  What I'm saying, like, when she was in jail, it's probably when it started to, I mean, we've always been able to order Domino's pizza and stuff. But the days of Uber Eats and Postmates and stuff, like, when would you say that heyday was? I think she might have been in jail and then she gets out of jail and she's like, I'm living like a queen, I'm from a free woman. I'm going out to eat or I'm not eating.

• 7:44Rayna Greenberg?

  You think she's just like, I've roughed it enough?

• 7:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I think, or she just missed, she doesn't know how to do it.

• 7:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought she just lived in the middle of Connecticut and none of these places will deliver to her.

• 7:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's also.

• 7:53Rayna Greenberg?

  And it is funny, like, I'm not calling you old Martha, I'm just saying, people of a certain generation, like my dad only knows how to use DoorDash. It's the only one he's capable of using, he goes on the website.

• 8:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  I kind of forgot she was old. Like, she's just such an icon, but you're so right. Like, I ordered this Indian food. There's this great Indian restaurant randomly in Dover, Delaware, and I would get it with my parents. We had it like, sometimes when I was living with them during COVID, and they would go pick it up.

• 8:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Always picked it up.

• 8:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, 30 minute round trip, or more. And so, when I was home once, I was like, "We should order it." My parents were like, "What?" And I'm like, "They'll bring it. Someone will bring it. They'll come down the long dirt road to this farmhouse, and they will bring it." And they were like, "No, they won't." And I'm like, "Yeah, they will."

• 8:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you have these things when you were a kid? Like, we had these, um, this sounds so old. We had these guides of restaurant menus at home that you could order for pickup. And like, you had to obviously go get it, but we had this like, it was in like, the junk drawer, and it had all of the restaurants and like, their offerings for pickup. It was like unheard of, growing up. You could get it brought to you?

• 8:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, for sure. No, that's only, I feel like this is only as of late, even that some, that they would go to my parents. And it's not, I don't even know if it's DoorDash. I mean, it's gonna be Uber Eats, or it's just like, bare bones, but they'll come. But I think, yeah, I think she's just old, and I don't, I don't fault her for this, but I just think it's funny. Like, she just gives no fucks.

• 9:12Rayna Greenberg?

  No, she doesn't care.

• 9:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's like, "I'm the spokesperson for this thing. I would never use it."

• 9:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, and then the next fraud. The Academy members must now watch all nominees in order to vote. So, for the Academy Awards, they're saying now, anybody who votes on this, must watch all the films. And I feel like everyone's head exploded. Like, I didn't know this was happening.

• 9:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so, do they have to watch everything nominated to vote for anything? Or you just need to watch all the movies in the category you're voting on? Or is that not how it works? Because I don't understand it. Because that's a ton of movies. That would be your whole year, sitting around watching movies.

• 9:45Rayna Greenberg?

  In a procedural change, Academy members must now watch all nominated films in each category to be eligible to vote in the final round for the Oscars. All designated nominations will, will have to be included in the, the final ballot. So yes, they have to watch all of them? I just don't think that that's a crazy ask. You signed up for this job. You want to say, "What's the best?" Like, I watched Anora, and maybe one or two other movies that were nominated, and I, I think Anora was the best, and it won. But like, I'm not qualified to-

• 10:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's crazy if people were voting in categories, I don't know how the voting works, but if they were voting in categories that they had not seen all of the movies in that category, that's so unfair and fucked up. And I love the reactions to it. It was like, what were they voting for until now, trailers? What? This wasn't a role? How the heck do you vote for an Oscar if you didn't watch all the films? Like, a lot of people were responding, this makes me question the integrity of previous Oscar wins.

• 10:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you should.

• 10:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Imagine if Dune Part Two didn't get an award simply because voters couldn't be bothered to sit through a two-hour film and the clip they saw felt too boring or confusing without context. There are so many more.

• 10:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I really don't understand it. The implied concept of the best of, etc., is that you've tried all of it. Like, I would never say the best sandwich in LA is whatever the fuck, if I haven't tried all of them, and I'm on a mission and I am trying.

• 11:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 11:04Rayna Greenberg?

  But that's the basis of the concept of best of.

• 11:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, it's so unfair to all the people in the category that you didn't watch. How do you live with yourself?

• 11:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, how did this come to light? Do you think somebody jokingly, like, over drinks was like, "Listen, I didn't really watch all of them." And then someone else was like, "Wait, I didn't either."

• 11:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, or there's like a whistleblower from the inside. They're like, "People are not watching these movies."

• 11:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, do you think they just found out that people are not watching them?

• 11:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, also, how do you prove it? That people didn't watch it?

• 11:34Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I think they should be sequestered, like Conclave. And I think that the smoke should go up when they're done watching. But I'm saying they could have fallen asleep.

• 11:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, unless someone is there with you, holding your eyes open, how can you prove it?

• 11:48Rayna Greenberg?

  You have monitors.

• 11:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, but don't they get to watch them at home?

• 11:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm saying plants. You put them all in a theater and then you plant people, like undercover cops.

• 11:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  This sounds expensive, but my tax dollars are not going to that.

• 11:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I think that, listen, people become really famous from winning Oscars. I think that, like, the...

• 12:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 12:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that the qualifications for winning these things should, like, match how great it is to win the thing.

• 12:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I just, I think it's hard to monitor all these people. Like, I think, can't they be like, "You gotta watch the movies?" And they're like, "We'll watch the movies." Yeah, yeah, we'll watch them.

• 12:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, like, if you, if you-

• 12:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  I guess I had to do community service and I just went and someone signed my paper.

• 12:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, that doesn't seem fair to me. Like, there should be-

• 12:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  It wasn't fair.

• 12:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, these people should be sequestered. It feels unfair. And also, if you have reached the level of being able to vote for the best movies in the country, the best actors and actresses, like, don't you have any integrity? Don't you want to see all of them? Like, isn't it, aren't you just in it for, like, the love of the game at this point?

• 12:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. I think it's all shady.

• 12:44Rayna Greenberg?

  I agree.

• 12:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know? Okay, so, that ends the fraud report, sorta. We're gonna transition into something that's very sensitive to me. And this is that the Eagles went to the White House.

• 12:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, some of them did.

• 12:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Some of them. So, this hurt. This hurt. You know, I was holding my breath. I didn't know if they were gonna go. There were rumors they weren't going, then they were, and then it was confirmed that they would go. And I was like, please, God, let, please, no. You know? Because they didn't go in 2018, notoriously. Things are so much worse now.

• 13:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Following the Super Bowl win, if you guys don't know.

• 13:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, of course. The team that wins the Super Bowl gets invited to the White House. This is, you know, how it's always been. And then last week, at the Time 100 Gala, they asked Jalen Hurts on the red carpet if he was gonna go to the White House. And the way he deflected, he, it was like this smirk. Someone was like, I've never seen this emoji in real life. Like, it was this, like, smirk and this look away and this, like, he just didn't answer the question. And they just, they kept it moving.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Are you planning on visiting the White House next week?

• 13:49Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 13:52Speaker 02

  Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you.

• 13:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Whatever you feel about her asking him that is whatever. He's been asked about Trump before. He got asked, like, are you nervous to play on the Super Bowl with the president being there? And he just said, like, next question, please. You know, like, he doesn't want to be asked about it.

• 14:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It was really interesting to watch. The clip is, like, nine to 10 seconds, and she asks him the question. He says, um, and then he is just silent.

• 14:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  He just, no, it's really a lesson in how to not answer a fucking question. You just don't have to answer it.

• 14:19Rayna Greenberg?

  He didn't, like, leave. He just stood there and looked around. He's like, I'm gonna do this.

• 14:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Looking fine as hell. That man gets hotter every day.

• 14:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Some people know this, some people don't. You know, his management team is all women.

• 14:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  He is such an icon. So he didn't go along with A.J. Brown, Devonte Smith,

• 14:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Slay.

• 14:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  and Darius Slay Jr., who we did pick as our cabinet pick for the Department of Defense.

• 14:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Slay.

• 14:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Slay. And they said they had scheduling conflicts, which I feel like the internet is grabbing on to that. Like, oh, you've got to keep that dentist appointment. It will be hard to reschedule. We understand scheduling conflicts. Like, people are like, we need merch that says scheduling conflicts.

• 14:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, they've had this date since, I think, the beginning of March. So, I mean, it's hilarious that they said scheduling conflicts.

• 14:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  They made a statement and they stood on business and you love to see it. And there are so many comments on the Eagles post, which I will talk about, and Jalen Hurts' latest post, which was just, I think, a GQ photo shoot, looking so good, and just praising the decision not to go. And I understand wanting to go to the White House. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for anybody. If you were a football player, you dream of winning the Super Bowl and going to the White House and meeting the president. Like, I understand wanting to go and I understand being like, I don't care who the president is. I'm gonna go. You know, maybe I'm not too involved in politics. Well, politics affects all of us, so there is that. But I, I, I'm so sad this even has to be a discussion.

• 15:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  And, you know, I just, the language of the Eagles post and also the language a lot of people use when they talk about this is like this longstanding tradition and like respect for the office. And I hate that bullshit so much. Like, I hate that, like, using tradition as an excuse when the president is trying to dismantle all of our traditions of democracy, freedom of the press, free speech, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court, our judicial system, he's deporting U.S. citizens.

• 16:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't want to say, like, some people don't think about that deeply, but like, some people just don't think about it that deeply. I think some people, to your point, are like, this is the greatest honor of my life. Listen, I wouldn't go. I'm not arguing going. I wouldn't go. But I think some people are like, I'm an athlete. I've trained my whole life for this. This is, this is the thing I care about the most. I'm gonna go.

• 16:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I still want to say that overall, this is like a bigger conversation to me when we talk about other people even in the comments being like, this is a tradition. It's like, so many traditions in America are problematic and harmful. People used to have slaves. Marriage used to be between a man and a woman only. Women didn't have rights. Like, let's cut the crap with the tradition and respect the office. Why are you respecting someone who doesn't respect this country?

• 16:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Women couldn't take out credit cards.

• 16:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  No one is disrespecting the country more than the president. And I know that not everybody thinks that deeply about it, but I just don't like that language. And I feel like you have to draw the line somewhere. Like, if this person is causing harm to the country as a whole, like, let's no longer respect the office. You don't have to. So, I don't know. I just, I felt like it wasn't aligned. Like, everybody is in my DMs about this, like, wanting to hear me talk about it. What do you think about them going? Like, Saquon Barkley went and like golfed with the president. And it does bother me. You know, I feel like even with the Eagles, like, their main cause is the Autism Foundation and what RFK is saying about people with autism. It's just so offensive and so wrong. And so it just felt not aligned with their values. And I understand people wanting to go. And

• 17:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, I disagree with, as a whole, like, it's tradition and you got to respect the office. And it's like, you don't if the person in the office is not respecting this country. And so some of them went, some of them didn't. And I love that Jalen Hurts didn't go and like some of the OGs and like Devonte Smith and AJ Brown and like Darius Slay, like I said, and I feel like they were like, we're going to make this statement. And like, we're going to show like what we stand for and not go to the White House.

• 18:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, more sports news. Moving on to more sports news. Bill Belichick and his child bride are in the news again, his 24-year-old girlfriend. So he is on a press tour to promote his new book. And this interview on CBS has gone pretty viral. He is in the chair doing an interview and he had shown up with the girlfriend. She was sort of on the sidelines of this. It was just the two of them. And it's caught on tape that he is asked how did they meet? And she interjects and says, we are not talking about this. Pretty forcefully, this fucking 24-year-old, talking to one of the greatest coaches of all time. And it was also reported that throughout the interview, she had repeatedly interjected and at one point walked off the set and delayed the interview for 30 minutes. It's...

• 18:52Rayna Greenberg?

  It's an interesting vibe.

• 18:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Every time these people come up, I have to Google that age gap again, and I cannot believe it. And.

• 19:00Rayna Greenberg?

  What's his age, 79?

• 19:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're 48 years apart.

• 19:03Rayna Greenberg?

  He's, okay.

• 19:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  He is, she's 24, he's 70.

• 19:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Why did I stop being?

• 19:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's 73 and she's 24. It's almost 50 years. It's almost 50. Like, I just, to date someone that could be your grandfather, I can't comprehend it.

• 19:21Rayna Greenberg?

  So, but that makes her interrupting and acting like this less shocking to me because I'm like, I, I don't understand this person to begin with.

• 19:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, it's just, it's crazy to see one, I mean, arguably one of the greatest football coaches of all time being bossed around by this little girl. And so people are like, it's elder abuse. And I'm like, I don't think, I would say what you want to say. It was certainly awkward. It seemed off, but I, he's, Bill Belichick is coaching, like, he, he's, he's with it still, right? I mean, are people thinking like he's incapacitated and?

• 19:50Rayna Greenberg?

  People are saying that. I don't, I don't believe it, but you know, there's been people saying like, he's, because he's the coach at UNC now, that like UNC has this problem on their hands. I mean, to me, this was a, there's plenty of 24 year olds that are capable and smart, Tessa. And it seems like just a child throwing a tantrum. And he doesn't have a big reaction to her when she does it. And to me, again, that feels like a parent just trying to like placate a little kid.

• 20:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, so she cut in quick when they asked how they met, which it's like, did you guys really meet when she was in high school, be honest? You know, is this like a sensitive topic? But apparently they met on a flight in 2021. And so she was 20, 20 or 21 then. She could have been 20, 20 years old, met this old man on a flight. And that's how they started this relationship. I guess that was the beginning or whatever. But she also was interrupting him throughout and correcting him. And some stuff was about football. Like, this is insane to me. And there's more happening. So she posted on her Instagram. As we record on Tuesday, four hours ago, this email that went out from Bill Belichick

• 20:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  to people kind of about his frustrations with the press and how they're treating his story and his book. And it feels like, why is she posting this? It feels so out of pocket.

• 21:06Rayna Greenberg?

  So it took me a few minutes to understand this. You and I were like reading this email because she didn't like write anything after she posted that email. And I was like, what is she trying to say here? And I think she's trying to say like, behind the scenes, I had this conversation with Bill and Bill had this conversation with other people where he was like, I don't want my relationship to the focus of this. I want the book to be the focus of it. And I think this is an example of somebody who's pretty young and not understanding the nuances of what he was saying to somebody and what a private conversation versus a public conversation is. And a real publicist would have handled this differently.

• 21:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, yeah, the comments are like, hey, you know, maybe you guys should get a publicist involved in this. I mean, the email she posted has someone's full email address in it. It's just so weird. But the interview itself, I mean, it's hard to watch. You're like, what is happening here? And he's worth $70 million. If I'm his kids, he has three kids. If I'm watching that interview, I'm like, oh, we're not getting any money. Like, the only people that should be concerned about this are the people who are in his will. Because that girl's taking it all. Like, that's the vibe. I think people are like, something's off here. Elder abuse feels a little extreme because this is a grown man who's working, who doesn't appear to really have any cognitive problems yet. So I don't know if I'd go there,

• 22:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  but something that feel like this girl is like in control of some shit. And maybe his family is worried.

• 22:27Rayna Greenberg?

  She certainly feels that she has been empowered to say these type of things. You don't really see it very often. Like, when you see men date women that are this much younger, they certainly like, know their role, quote unquote. And it's not to sit on the sidelines and yell at people. And I, what I find odd is that he would allow this to happen. Like, why doesn't he have a team with him in the room? I don't think it's elder abuse. I just think it was like idiocracy.

• 22:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  What, what, this is a football coach. This is Tom Brady's coach. This is a man that has told grown men what to do and screamed in their faces his whole career. What is happening? He can't tell this girl like, hey, I got this?

• 23:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Pipe down?

• 23:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. That is really so funny. The largest men on earth, he is what, the winning, the winningest Super Bowl coach in history? Like, he tells Tom Brady what to do. He can't tell this 24 year old girl what to do?

• 23:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's crazy.

• 23:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Listen, she's sucking that dick good. Okay. It's like she's got that Meghan Markle dick sucking ability.

• 23:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Their relationship is so icked. You know what? We all, we don't try to judge, but 50 year age difference, I'm judging.

• 23:34Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm allowed to judge.

• 23:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  No matter what the gender breakdown is.

• 23:36Rayna Greenberg?

  You're allowed to judge it.

• 23:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Those old balls.

• 23:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I couldn't, I, no, it's just, it's the butt for me. It's the sag. You know, like when a guy walks to the bathroom after sex and you're just like, oh.

• 23:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I guess he does, is gonna have a saggy butt.

• 23:49Rayna Greenberg?

  His old hands.

• 23:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like you can't keep it lifted past 70.

• 23:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Those old hands.

• 23:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have old hands.

• 23:54Rayna Greenberg?

  You gotta get on that skincare routine like I do. I, listen, I put retinol and vitamin C on these babies.

• 23:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we are frustrated that this is gonna be dated because apparently there's a statement, another statement coming today as we record. Jordan said so.

• 24:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know what's about to happen.

• 24:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Bill Belichick's publicist.

• 24:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I'm sorry, you guys. I mean, she posted the email and the caption of the email says, full statement to be released later today. From who? From you? What is happening?

• 24:20Rayna Greenberg?

  She's like, be my sorority girlies, just tie something up.

• 24:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, let's talk about our partners and then we will get back into it. I am telling you guys about Aura Frames. So Mother's Day is coming up. It is Sunday, May 11th. If you haven't gotten your mom or anybody that has a gifting opportunity coming up, a gift yet, we really feel like this is the perfect gift. I love Aura Frames so much. I got some of these for my family members for Christmas. Aura Frames is truly the best digital photo frame, voted that by Wirecutter, featured in so many hundreds and hundreds of gift guides. So it really is incredible. I, again, like I mentioned, I got this for my family and I was able to set it up in gift mode. It takes just like a couple of minutes. I loaded some photos on there and then I gifted it to them.

• 25:06Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 25:30Rayna Greenberg?

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• 26:54Rayna Greenberg?

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• 27:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I use Nutriful. I take it every single day. Took it right before I came here. I really rely on it. So we

• 27:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally recommend it.

• 27:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Morning routine.

• 27:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so big tour kickoff last night. Beyonce is back on tour, kicked it off in LA.

• 27:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's Beyonce season, everybody, it's Cowboy Carter season. She kicked off her Cowboy Carter tour this week. She's got like five or six shows. I'm one of the last one. So I'm going to next Friday, May 9th. Couldn't go this weekend. I will be in Miami and Tampa for shows. So you guys come see me. I'm on tour and I'm really excited to be there. But Tessa went last night?

• 28:12Speaker 03

  Yes, I did. It was absolutely incredible. It was my first time seeing Beyonce, so I was very excited. Yeah, it was my first time.

• 28:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  So it felt very special.

• 28:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you loved the outfits?

• 28:21Speaker 03

  Yes, no, the outfits were fantastic. It was like I got why she was a goat. Like I think I literally said like, oh shit, when she like came on the stage.

• 28:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 28:29Rayna Greenberg?

  People loved it. We had some boots on the ground last night. Our friend Taylor Wine, who you were going with last night, she said it was tied with Renaissance for her favorite tour. She said it was more lemonade than Renaissance.

• 28:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 28:38Rayna Greenberg?

  And that the costumes were great.

• 28:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Blue Ivy was there. Her dancing, I mean, she is, she's killing it. She like dances like her mom now. So she came on stage, Beyonce's daughter, Rumi, came out just so adorable.

• 28:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, did you just die?

• 28:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  She doesn't have like the choreo yet.

• 28:54Rayna Greenberg?

  But when she turned around and hugged her mom and it's just, it's this moment. So basically Beyonce's singing, Rumi's in front of her. And when she's talking, Rumi turns around and hugs her and it's just, it's like, it hit me like Beyonce is someone's mom.

• 29:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. She's all of our mothers.

• 29:08Rayna Greenberg?

  She's just like, I don't care that we're on stage in front of all these people, that's my mom.

• 29:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 29:12Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, isn't that so cute?

• 29:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's really so cute. So we're really excited. I mean, I can't wait to go next week and people are loving it. So.

• 29:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Costumes look great.

• 29:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, it's, I can't decide what to wear because I like, there's so much like walking and standing.

• 29:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I want you to wear that skirt that you wore to our shows.

• 29:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but like I just, going to Beyonce before, I did wear boots and I regretted it. My feet hurt by the end of the night. Like I want to wear sneakers, but you can't wear sneakers with any western outfit. That's not a thing.

• 29:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, that skirt.

• 29:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  You gotta wear cowboy boots.

• 29:39Rayna Greenberg?

  But that skirt has like tassels. You might not be able to, how, how high is it?

• 29:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have to wear a boot. I would look crazy.

• 29:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm just trying to, I would never, but.

• 29:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So anyway, happy Beyonce season, you guys. And if you're going, just, you know, send us pics. Let us know what you think and have fun out there. And then on the same country note, Stagecoach was last weekend. Nothing really crazy happened, except in our world, Jelly Roll came from Stagecoach to a show that we were on at the Comedy Store. It's called the Goddamn Comedy Jam, where comedians do a set and then perform a song. Rain and I send girls just want to have fun.

• 30:13Rayna Greenberg?

  So much fun.

• 30:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Jelly Roll was there and he was, couldn't have been nicer. And he sung, his solo song was "How You Remind Me" by Nickelback. He just wanted to sing Nickelback. Then everybody went on stage. So we sang Nickelback with Jelly Roll. I'm like, this is better than Stagecoach.

• 30:28Rayna Greenberg?

  He couldn't have been nicer.

• 30:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was so nice.

• 30:29Rayna Greenberg?

  We were backstage with him and you and I were standing and he was sitting and he like turned around and was like, do you want my seat?

• 30:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 30:34Rayna Greenberg?

  I was like, Jelly Roll, I'm gonna make you get up.

• 30:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you imagine? You're like, I will. Can you get up? I'm gonna take your seat. So he was, he was just really nice. And then everybody that did the show does like a grand finale and it was Sweet Child O' Mine. So we were like onstage, we'll put a little video up on screen if you guys are watching on YouTube.

• 31:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it was just a nice experience. So that was our Taste of Stagecoach. We got to be onstage with Jelly Roll at the Comedy Store.

• 31:07Rayna Greenberg?

  A small stage.

• 31:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 31:08Rayna Greenberg?

  His team was so nice. They needed this videographer with him that was so hot. That's my kink, videographers.

• 31:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is. It really is.

• 31:15Rayna Greenberg?

  God, that guy was.

• 31:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Some people like comedians, some people like musicians. Rain is like, if you have a camera in your hand that takes video, which is an iPhone, but.

• 31:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  So really anybody.

• 31:25Rayna Greenberg?

  If you have a professional, that guy was tall. His voice was so deep. Oh.

• 31:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let's get a little reality TBT.

• 31:31Rayna Greenberg?

  So there's a few things that are out right now. Vanderpump Villa is back and The Valley is currently airing, so lots of Vanderpump people in the mix. So Vanderpump Villa premiered and basically it's Lisa Vanderpump. I think last season was in France, this season's in Italy and it's a staff and they have like rotating guests throughout.

• 31:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 31:49Rayna Greenberg?

  But Episode 7 is my favorite of the season and our friends Taylor Strecker, who's been on the show many times, and Taylor Donahue were on the show with Stassi Schroder, who's the main guest. And it was her first return to reality TV and she was famous from Vanderpump Rules, obviously, and then fired, she got kind of canceled in 2020, she was part of that whole wave of people that got canceled. And this is her first return to reality TV. And I always find it interesting when you don't see somebody on television for a long time and you're like, optically from Instagram and social media, you're like, they seem to have calmed down. They have a slower life, like they're not doing the same antics that they were doing in reality TV. She had a full-blown fucking meltdown on her husband.

• 32:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh.

• 32:31Rayna Greenberg?

  And basically there was this scene where he's gonna like go get tattoos with his sister and they're gonna get each other's signature tattooed on their bodies.

• 32:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Him and his sister.

• 32:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Him and his sister. And he met his sister later in life, so I think it's a different type of relationship. Maybe he's like a little more excited about her.

• 32:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Met her?

• 32:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Met her later in life.

• 32:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like they were...

• 32:48Rayna Greenberg?

  They didn't explain it, but I don't, they weren't raised together in the same home.

• 32:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Got it, okay.

• 32:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, so he's gonna go get matching tattoos with his sister, they're gonna get each other's signatures on each other's bodies. And Stassi is basically like, why don't you have my signature on your body, I'm your wife? Which I do get it, doesn't your brother?

• 33:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my brother does have my name on his body.

• 33:06Rayna Greenberg?

  But he has our whole family.

• 33:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah, my mom, my dad and me.

• 33:10Rayna Greenberg?

  So it's not like you have Matt's...

• 33:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  But he has something for Steph.

• 33:14Rayna Greenberg?

  So it's not like the only tattoo is that you have Matt's signature and he has yours.

• 33:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  So yes, for me with no tattoos, if my first tattoo was of my brother and you know, our parents hadn't died, you know, we were just living as we are now and there wasn't anything crazy that happened, I think my fiance might be like, okay. I mean, he's, I don't think he would care, but it is interesting. And also Matt does have a tattoo for like for Steph, it's like this heart, whatever. So he has a ton of tattoos, yes. Does her husband have tattoos?

• 33:45Rayna Greenberg?

  He has quite a few tattoos.

• 33:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, that's, that makes, that's fine then, get whatever.

• 33:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, and he said, I have S tattooed on my ring finger, and she's like, well, it's wearing off, you can barely see it. She really has like a pretty bratty meltdown, it's a little icky to watch. And then Taylor struck her, it's so funny, because she's like, you know, siblings that meet later in life, report that they have like feelings of romantic love for each other.

• 34:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  She says that to Stassi?

• 34:10Rayna Greenberg?

  She says it to Stassi, and Taylor's like, I'm like Nostradamus, because this was so far before the incest of White Lotus. Taylor's like, I, I brought this up so much earlier.

• 34:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my god.

• 34:22Rayna Greenberg?

  The thing that, I mean, it is true. So I don't know if you've seen those documentaries about like, people that are trying to like, be like mega sperm donors?

• 34:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, I mean, I know about them.

• 34:32Rayna Greenberg?

  So, basically, there are laws, they're supposed to be enforced from state to state, that say that you can only give sperm to so many, so many times.

• 34:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because everybody will be related.

• 34:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, and basically siblings that do meet later in life do report like a closeness that they will misinterpret as romanticism, and then you have a bunch of babies, like people, they'll fuck. And then you have babies between siblings, and that's, you know, there's all kinds of like, mental and physical issues that come from that.

• 34:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's intense, you don't need to go down this road.

• 34:55Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, you guys get it. So, I just find it really interesting, because you watch these people on Instagram for years, and you're like, they really calmed down, they got, no, they didn't. They're still the same people. I, I'm definitely gonna watch that episode. You know, I'm not like a Vanderpump girly, I'm not being pick me about it, it's just not a show I watch. You know, I watch other shows on Bravo. But, my fiancee the other day said Vanderpump Villa, I almost got whiplash, I whipped my head around, how do you know those words?

• 35:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  I really don't know.

• 35:21Rayna Greenberg?

  But he knows Taylor and Taylor, and he loves them, and we all hung out on Andrew Collins' wedding, so he saw them posting about it, and he was like, what's this Vanderpump Villa? I was like, sir, what if you, what?

• 35:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, we are gonna watch that episode, just because those are our friends.

• 35:34Rayna Greenberg?

  And it's funny that he would have like, I mean, he wouldn't have organically seen it, because it's on Hulu, it's not on Bravo.

• 35:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, he saw it on their Instagram, but I do have to tell you, like, when he references reality TV and Bravo, like, it's just so cute and funny to me. The Summer House episode where they did this big pajama party, because you know Paige and Ciara love being in beds, they did this whole bed theme on last week's Summer House, and he was like, where's Craig's pillows? I was like, huh. You've been picking, you've been actually like.

• 36:02Rayna Greenberg?

  That's like really paying attention. That's like actually.

• 36:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was also very funny. And also Craig and Paige were clearly on the rocks at that point and then they broke up. So maybe, but like a pajama party with beds and pillows and not Craig's pillows. I thought it was the funniest comment.

• 36:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm jealous. I didn't think of it.

• 36:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 36:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause I love Bravo so much. I am obsessed with the intersection of all the people from Southern Charm, Summer House and Vanderpump. I couldn't be more obsessed with it.

• 36:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 36:26Rayna Greenberg?

  And so the fact that he picked up on this, like I, I've seen every episode of every one of those shows. I'm obsessed.

• 36:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, and Craig wasn't there. So it couldn't be like Craig couldn't make it, but here's his pillows. Okay. So anyways.

• 36:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Paige was like, I'm not trying to think about that.

• 36:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 36:38Rayna Greenberg?

  And then the final show, I am watching The Valley. I know it's gotten some pushback this season. The third episode will have aired after we record this, so I haven't caught up on the third episode. But I think the overall theme is like, it's a huge cast. There's different types of drama, but two, the two main couples have since gone through a breakup and are getting divorced since last season. So that's Jackson, Brittany and Jesse and Michelle. And it's a level of volatility I have not seen on reality television before. It feels, Jax feels violent. He threw furniture at Brittany. She says on camera, you're a cocaine addict and you need to get help. These people have, and then Jesse in this episode accuses his ex-wife, Michelle of being a call girl

• 37:21Rayna Greenberg?

  and taking money like as a hooker. And these people have small children, both of them. And I mean, you and I talk here and there about like the laws surrounding like what children's rights should be. And you're just, I, part of me enjoys the drama and the other part of me is like, I don't think that this should, I don't know if it should be on television.

• 37:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. We've gone too far.

• 37:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Like I love drama and I, old Vanderpump, I think Vanderpump is one of the greatest reality shows of all time, but it's like a normal level of drama, like sleeping with each other's boyfriends.

• 37:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. I know. You get like any sort of domestic abuse type situation and kids involved. Yeah. So.

• 37:58Rayna Greenberg?

  And if you guys want, there's an interesting interview on Nick Viall's podcast with Alex Baskin, who's the creator of the show. And he's basically asking him, what responsibility do you feel that you have to these people? Like at any point to step in and be like, this is not good for you. And he, I thought his answers were interesting. You know, these people are, they get a paycheck. They have free will.

• 38:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I want to listen to that interview and just hearing about it because like, where's the line? And where's your moral compass with all this stuff? And at what point are you like, these are grownups? But should you vet people for like, whatever they have going on mentally and their level of like, trauma and abuse and how they got here? And I don't know, couldn't be me, but you know?

• 38:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad it's other people.

• 38:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 38:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Couldn't be us, but I am watching it. I, you know, I'm not proud.

• 38:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, let's do our headlines to send you guys off with. First headline, Travis Kelce unfollows Ryan Reynolds on Instagram after this alleged fallout with Taylor Swift and Blake Lively's friendship. I mean, that is sending a clear message. For a huge celebrity, someone like that to unfollow another huge celebrity amid all this drama, like, you don't have to do that. You made a decision and you were making a statement.

• 39:04Rayna Greenberg?

  It's clearly a statement. I totally agree. And people have thought there was a rift between Taylor Swift and Blake Lively. They've not been seen together since all this happened.

• 39:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  And is, are Taylor Swift's texts getting subpoenaed?

• 39:15Rayna Greenberg?

  So I think she has been subpoenaed in the court case, which will start next March and will have to talk. She has optically distanced herself from Blake Lively. She'd invited her to the Super Bowl this year, what she did last year. And I guess this is Travis Kelce's way of just being like, me too. I don't fuck with these people.

• 39:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's crazy. It's such a small thing that says so much. Okay, and the new Golden Bachelor has been announced. So it is Mel Owens, former NFL player. We have a big NFL theme this episode. Former NFL player turned lawyer. All right.

• 39:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Good luck out there.

• 39:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  66.

• 39:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  So if he's anything like Bill Belichick, all the women will be too old for him. So yeah, that's just, I don't know. I, I. Don't have much else to say. It's a big headline. So congrats to the new Golden Bachelor. Hopefully he won't be as scandalous as Gary turned out to be.

• 40:07Rayna Greenberg?

  That was crazy.

• 40:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  After the show aired.

• 40:10Rayna Greenberg?

  And when does Paradise start with the Goldens?

• 40:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, I have no idea. Probably the summer, right? It's like a summer show.

• 40:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm dying to watch this. Okay. And then finally, the internet can't stop making jokes about Gwyneth Paltrow's return to eating carbs and cheese. So she made this statement, essentially she's been on a paleo diet for about 20 years.

• 40:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, and she says it was like a mental thing. So she had some gene. Well, I don't know. I mean, she said she had, she, that she has a gene that makes her more prone to Alzheimer's, I think.

• 40:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I'm part of it feels like a stretch and part of it, I'm like, whatever. Like if you're, if your whole personality is this like wellness brand, then you are attracted to this type of science.

• 40:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I think there's such a gut to brain connection and she basically said she had to be really careful not to have inflammation in her brain. And now she's over it. She's like, fuck it. I want to eat it.

• 40:57Rayna Greenberg?

  That's really her statement was, I'm just bored.

• 40:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 40:59Rayna Greenberg?

  And listen, sis, I get it. I get it. It's boring living like that. Carbs and cheese. Like what is there to live for outside of that? And the comments on this are hysterical and most people are saying like, this is like the sign of the apocalypse. This is the sign of like, being like, society is ending. Nothing matters anymore. Look at what this political administration is doing. Like, I don't care about anything.

• 41:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, it's probably my favorite headline of the whole week is Gwyneth Paltrow's back on cheese and bread.

• 41:25Rayna Greenberg?

  So good for her.

• 41:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think this, what if this is just going to be her, like no fucks era?

• 41:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she's about to get spicier.

• 41:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 41:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that this is going to change her whole personality.

• 41:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Pizza? Yeah, pizza. She just said Gwyneth is back on pizza. I've, I've always had mixed feelings on Gwyneth. Like I sometimes love her. Sometimes I'm like, ah, she, you know, but at the end of the day, I support this and I feel like she's one of us now.

• 41:47Rayna Greenberg?

  This is the most I've ever liked her.

• 41:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, exactly. Maybe Martha Stewart will order food delivery. We've seen crazier things. Gwyneth Paltrow's going to eat pizza.

• 41:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  So that is your snack today, you guys. We hope you enjoyed it and you can find us at girlsgottaeat.com, Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I'm Ash Hess. Come see me this weekend in Miami and Tampa. Raina is Rayna Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

• 42:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good week, guys.

• 42:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.