#2375 - Tim Dillon

Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. His latest comedy special, "Tim Dillon: I'm Your Mother," is available on Netflix. www.youtube.com/@TimDillonShowwww.timdilloncomedy.com Introducing Visible Inner Circle: Connect accounts with anyone, share the savings. Join for $25/mo. Add a premium plan and save $5/mo. Join today at https://visible.com/rogan Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up at https://dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new DraftKings customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Get 1 promo code to redeem discounted NFL Sunday Ticket subscription and max. $300 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. NFL Sunday Ticket: YouTube TV base plan (not included in this offer) required to watch NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. Subscription autorenews yearly at then-current price (currently $378 for YouTube TV subscribers, or $480 for YouTube subscribers) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:13Joe Rogan?

  We'll get down.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:14Joe Rogan?

  Um, but yeah, this is a turkey market. He sent us these and some zombie ones.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  Sick.

• 0:19Joe Rogan?

  Not the best to drink out of them though.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  You can't drink out of it.

• 0:22Joe Rogan?

  Cause it's like curved at the top, so you spill all this out, but who cares?

• 0:26Speaker 01

  You gotta put something in it and then just have it.

• 0:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like pens or something.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, drugs.

• 0:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it'd be good for drugs. Look at that face.

• 0:36Speaker 01

  Be great.

• 0:37Joe Rogan?

  If you had some drugs laying around, that's where you'd put them.

• 0:39Speaker 01

  That's the spot.

• 0:42Joe Rogan?

  So we were talking about the video, uh, that Trump posted, this video of, uh, them drone bombing some narco guys in the middle of the ocean.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  Venezuelan drug traffickers, right?

• 0:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  I think that's what it was.

• 0:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  Venezuelan.

• 0:56Joe Rogan?

  Trend de agua.

• 0:58Speaker 01

  Trend de agua. It's a real thing.

• 1:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:01Speaker 01

  They're a real thing.

• 1:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:03Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:04Joe Rogan?

  He's accusing the president of Venezuela of being involved.

• 1:10Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 1:11Speaker 01

  That could lead to an interesting place, you know? I mean, it could lead to, uh, I imagine we're doing that because we're trying to suggest that it would be better if he wasn't the president?

• 1:21Joe Rogan?

  Probably something along those lines. I mean, isn't there like a bounty on him?

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Uh, I believe there is.

• 1:29Joe Rogan?

  I think it's like open in public. There's like a $50 million bounty on him.

• 1:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think they want to get rid of him.

• 1:35Joe Rogan?

  Is that what the number is? Yeah, 50 million. There it is.

• 1:40Joe Rogan?

  Place the $50 million bounty for information leading to the arrest of Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  They've been trying to knock him off for a while.

• 1:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it said, he's accusing him of heading a drug trafficking network. I don't know if that's the, I don't know if that's the case, but speaking to Ed Calderon that I had on the other day, who's an expert on Mexico.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:01Joe Rogan?

  And you remember when there was like all the assassinations in the last election?

• 2:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06Joe Rogan?

  It was like thirty-seven different assassinations in Mexico.

• 2:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09Joe Rogan?

  He said, "It's because they're all cartel."

• 2:11Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 2:11Joe Rogan?

  It's not like, they're not just assassinating regular people.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:14Joe Rogan?

  The cartel's putting these people in to be like the mayor, or this, or that, and then these other people who have other cartel people are killing them.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  So it's warring cartels.

• 2:27Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. It's all warring cartels. So here, here it is. This is, uh, the president is posting assassinations on, on social media.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Is this, okay.

• 2:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we're gonna get the chance to see it, and duh.

• 2:44Joe Rogan?

  Instant. Pretty accurate.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Pretty fucking accurate.

• 2:47Joe Rogan?

  Very impressive.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  Pretty impressive. Lot of wasted drugs.

• 2:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, probably a lot of fentanyl in that. Probably bad drugs.

• 2:57Speaker 01

  Well, this is a big problem, is that the drugs now are worse than they've ever been.

• 3:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  I mean, all drugs are bad, but the drugs now seem to be unbelievably bad.

• 3:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's a fentanyl.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:10Joe Rogan?

  And, uh, Ed was explaining that, too. He's like, "The soil that they grow the poppies on to make heroin is so bad, it's so taxed out, that the heroin was very weak, and they couldn't sell it, so they had to add fentanyl to the heroin to make it stronger."

• 3:24Speaker 01

  And they spice it up, they cut it with fentanyl.

• 3:26Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  And fentanyl is what is killing everybody that's doing cocaine, and it's laced with fentanyl, and then they drop.

• 3:34Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh, yeah.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  It's terrible.

• 3:36Joe Rogan?

  And it all comes from China, all the fentanyl.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, and I mean, there is...

• 3:40Joe Rogan?

  All the precursors, everything.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  It is kind of a way, if you are a foreign country, it is a way to, it is some type of warfare, you know?

• 3:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 3:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's, there's a bunch of different things that they're doing for sure to try to destabilize the United States.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:57Joe Rogan?

  And that, which includes social media, which is why I tell people, do not argue with people on social media because I bet most of those people aren't even real.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a giant amount of people that are on social media that are there just to keep arguments going.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  Absolutely. Lots of bots.

• 4:14Joe Rogan?

  Lots of bots.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 4:16Joe Rogan?

  And this was something that came up yesterday where, um, they were using ChatGPT. So they have sort of a program that runs ChatGPT, so it acts like real humans. And it was attacking people about USAID and, and.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  Really?

• 4:32Joe Rogan?

  Trans issues, all sorts of different stuff.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Is that Grok?

• 4:36Joe Rogan?

  No, Grok is the AI from X. So that's the Twitter AI.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:41Joe Rogan?

  So ChatGPT is open AI.

• 4:43Speaker 01

  That's the based AI, Grok.

• 4:46Joe Rogan?

  Sort of.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Grok is kind of the one who's based.

• 4:49Joe Rogan?

  It got removed for a little bit because it said that Israel was committing genocide.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  What I like about Grok is that occasionally it's removed.

• 4:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  That's how I know Grok's on to something because it's occasionally put in timeout and then it comes back. Any AI that's not removed, I don't trust. I need an AI that's getting removed pretty frequently when it runs up against an issue.

• 5:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a good call.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm not saying all of Grok is good, but I'm saying I've read Grok and I've said, this is an interesting guy to talk to at a bar. Because he's saying things that.

• 5:27Joe Rogan?

  A little controversial.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  Little fun.

• 5:30Joe Rogan?

  Little fun?

• 5:30Speaker 01

  Little fun.

• 5:31Joe Rogan?

  Little out there, little controversial?

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Pretty wild.

• 5:34Joe Rogan?

  Do you see the, uh, the German right wing party, uh, seven members have died? Leading up to the election over the last couple of days.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  And this is the A D.

• 5:44Joe Rogan?

  AFD.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  AFD or something?

• 5:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  I, I, I saw that. That seems a bit spooky that that's going on. Yeah.

• 5:52Joe Rogan?

  Suspicious. Yeah.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  That's very interesting. How did they all die?

• 5:56Joe Rogan?

  Germany's far right AFD suffers a series of candidate deaths ahead of local votes. Well, I would imagine they were assassinated, Tim.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:04Joe Rogan?

  No evidence of foul play.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  Thank god. Thank god I was worried.

• 6:08Joe Rogan?

  What are the odds that that many people that are a part of something die that quickly?

• 6:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:13Joe Rogan?

  Uh, they said it was six, but today it's seven. Number of deaths, as devil has raised questions on social media. That said, like, if they really are far-right extremists, maybe they're out there doing fentanyl. Maybe they're wacky people.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  Maybe they're doing, maybe they're doing something. Seven seems like a really inconvenient number of people to die before an election.

• 6:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  That seems to be quite suspect.

• 6:37Joe Rogan?

  Right up there with the Mexican assassinations.

• 6:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, this is, Europe right now has become, you know, we had our election. So then the UK right now is kind of the most interesting place to watch because of everything that's taking place. And Germany is not far behind, but like, this is where a lot of the tumult in the world is coming to a head. In like, Europe, the UK, things with migration, things with speech that we talked about.

• 7:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the Graham Linehan stuff.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 7:12Joe Rogan?

  He left this podcast, and I was telling him, "Why are you gonna go back?" Like, it seems crazy to go back, because he's living in America now.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:20Joe Rogan?

  I'm like, "Why, why are you gonna go back?" He goes like, "Well, I have to, I have a court case." He's getting sued by some crazy trans person, and goes back and was arrested for three tweets.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  And what were the, do we know what the tweets were?

• 7:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 7:34Speaker 01

  I mean, not that-

• 7:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, one of them is a photo of a trans rally. It says, "A photo that you can smell."

• 7:40Speaker 01

  I mean, it's like so wild that you would be put in handcuffs for that tweet.

• 7:44Joe Rogan?

  The other one-

• 7:45Speaker 01

  None of them are, obviously.

• 7:46Joe Rogan?

  Is a photo of these trans people where he commented, "Homophobes and misogynists, all of them, fuck them."

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Right, right, right.

• 7:58Joe Rogan?

  Imagine.

• 7:58Speaker 01

  You would think that would put you in the clear.

• 8:01Joe Rogan?

  But imagine.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:03Joe Rogan?

  That's one of the posts-

• 8:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:05Joe Rogan?

  That they cited as being the reason for arresting him.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 8:09Joe Rogan?

  And then the other one is saying that if a man who identifies as a woman enters a woman's bathroom, he is committing a, and- We should pull it up, just so I get it, so I don't misquote it. Uh, I retweeted it, so it's on my Twitter page if you want to find it. But, uh, something about that it's a-

• 8:30Joe Rogan?

  I forget what, how he described the act, but the, the, the problem was that he said, "You should yell, you should call authorities, yell, and if that doesn't work, punch him in the balls." Right. Fun. Yeah, fun. So here it is. If a trans identified male is in a female only space, he is committing a violent abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails, punch him in the balls. There's something... Arrested. You belong in a locked up cage. Yeah. For that. Yeah. Well, well, there's something really terrifying about the idea that any tweet outside of a direct threat or a harassment campaign or something that falls into that category would get...

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• 11:53Speaker 01

  You arrested any tweet. This is so innocuous and silly.

• 12:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 12:01Speaker 01

  And not at all what you would think would rise to the level. Not that anything should rise to the level, but the fact that they're gonna put you in jail for that, it just sends a message to people that they cannot have an opinion counter to whatever the government decides is the right opinion.

• 12:21Joe Rogan?

  Because it's totally illogical. Like, they arrested a kid for yelling "I love bacon." Have you seen that one?

• 12:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, because supposedly it was Islamophobic to love bacon.

• 12:31Joe Rogan?

  Right. He was yelling at these...

• 12:33Speaker 01

  My Islamophobia and my love of bacon are completely separate things.

• 12:36Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, you can go to Muslim countries and yell "I love bacon." There's no laws against it.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  I will be doing it at the Riyadh Comedy Festival very soon. Get your tickets! Get your tickets! Are you really gonna go there? Of course I am. Wow. Why would I not? Uh... Would they kill gay people and women? By the way, we've said that about... We say this about every Muslim... Every Muslim country is throwing gay people up the roof all the time, by the way. Okay? Um, I obviously don't agree with Saudi Arabian policies on women and things like that. Yeah. Is it my business to tell Saudi Arabia how to live? Truly.

• 13:13Joe Rogan?

  How big was the check?

• 13:15Speaker 01

  Three hundred and seventy-five thousand for one show.

• 13:17Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  That's not bad.

• 13:18Joe Rogan?

  That's pretty good.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  That's not bad.

• 13:19Joe Rogan?

  I'll take that.

• 13:20Speaker 01

  I'll watch a behanding for that.

• 13:22Joe Rogan?

  Behanding?

• 13:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's called a behanding. What happens is they cut the hand off the thief. Here's the thing, all the people that have yelled at me for this are also pro-letting migrants and refugees into America at very high numbers. Now, the same religion that is supposedly so terrifying that I cannot spend twenty-four hours in that country is the same religion that all of these migrants and refugees are pretty supportive of that are coming over.

• 13:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  So, it feels weird to me that people are getting on a moral high horse and going, "It is so dangerous to go to Saudi Arabia for forty-eight hours." Why? Well, because they do X, Y, and Z. Why do they do that? Well, they're, "It's religion, it's crazy." I go, "Okay, but then who's coming into our country?" How differently do they feel about all of these things? And then if you poll them, they don't feel that differently.

• 14:20Joe Rogan?

  No. There's no room for dissent.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 14:23Joe Rogan?

  In that religion.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  Right. So, people that are somewhat radicalized in that religion that are coming into America are supposed to be greeted with open arms and it's not compassionate and it's terrible if you suggest that we shouldn't take all of those people because they may not assimilate as easily as people from European nations. You're called a racist, a Nazi, and whatever. But if you want to go to one of those countries that is luxurious,

• 14:54Speaker 01

  nice, you know, then you're attacked because you, your morality, "I have to, in order to perform in Saudi Arabia, I'm supposed to agree with everything they do." That's crazy.

• 15:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. No, there's no logic in a lot of the thinking. I mean, it's silly. But what they're doing with allowing mass migration in the UK, you see it in England and Ireland, and it's really weird. Because, like, where does this end up? Because it seems like it ends up with some places that have Sharia law.

• 15:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:27Joe Rogan?

  Especially when you consider, like, how many babies they're having versus how many babies the English people... I mean, they're openly talking about it. "We're going to outbreed you."

• 15:35Speaker 01

  This is why, when people talk about this issue, they often use the example of...

• 15:42Speaker 01

  You know, western countries not reproducing enough.

• 15:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  Not replicating their population and they go, well, there's going to be a crisis because people are not having enough children. So immigration is needed to sustain the population. What they never talk about is why people aren't having enough children. And a lot of it is because economically, they feel like they cannot afford to. Culturally, there have been policies that have, you know, focused on things outside of the family. We haven't had a ton of like pro-family policies in western countries.

• 16:24Joe Rogan?

  There's a little bit of that, but then there's also the issue that a lot of people have careers and they're trying to wait. Okay, so if you're a woman.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:32Joe Rogan?

  And you're in your 30s and you've decided.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Gross.

• 16:35Joe Rogan?

  You want to have a family and you know, you're 35, 36.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:40Joe Rogan?

  As you get older, the odds of you getting pregnant drop pretty radically.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  Well, but this is part of the, I think, part of the problem in western societies is we've told women that being a mother is some, is not as fulfilling as, as working in a Fortune 500 company.

• 16:59Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 17:00Speaker 01

  And I don't know any women that are mothers that regret it or are unhappy. Most of the happiest people I know are, are women with children, truly.

• 17:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're very happy if that's what they want and if they're very miserable, that's not what they want.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  I'm not saying they all should have children, but there's a lot of people, I, I, you know, when you meet a young couple with children, I've never met happier people personally.

• 17:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  Than that.

• 17:31Joe Rogan?

  No, that's true. Um, as long as they're getting along and as long as the, the woman actually wanted to have children.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:37Joe Rogan?

  But there's a lot of women that are like, there was this lady that I knew back in California that was, it was really sad. Uh, she was like super career oriented and she had a child that was friend with, friends with my child. And, uh, she was never home. I mean, she, she would get home at like 7:30, 8 o'clock at night.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:57Joe Rogan?

  She worked in, you know, high-profile business.

• 18:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:00Joe Rogan?

  And was there all day long and when she came home, she was exhausted and short-tempered and. You know, and she

• 18:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 18:06Joe Rogan?

  It was not good, like, it was not good. And the kid was miserable.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  And the kid was upset.

• 18:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it was a lady that tried to have a kid later in life.

• 18:14Speaker 01

  Right.

• 18:15Joe Rogan?

  She's a career woman, you know, and she had, like I said, a high-profile job, very important job, and the kid was a distraction.

• 18:22Speaker 01

  I'm not saying that women aren't capable of having jobs, or there's many women that are amazing in the corporate world, but I am saying that like, when you completely,

• 18:32Speaker 01

  you know, center a culture around ideas outside of family, career, money, status.

• 18:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  And you build a structure around all of those other things, and you go, "Well, maybe we'll have one kid to have a bigger house." "Or maybe we'll have one kid to live in a better neighborhood." And you start going, "Well, wait a minute. What is the purpose of this?" And a lot of that seems to be somewhat by design, and then other cultures come in that do value family and having lots of children.

• 19:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  They are going to outnumber you pretty quickly, and their values will become the values of the larger society.

• 19:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's true. Um, the other thing that's going on, too, is that from, you know, the 60s, 70s, and then when, you know, when I was a child, you could sustain a family on one income.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 19:30Joe Rogan?

  Today, that's virtually impossible if you're, you know, if you're making $50,000 a year, $60,000, it's really hard. It's really hard to get by.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:39Joe Rogan?

  And if you have a fa- a wife and a family, and you have bills, and you have a car, and maybe two cars, it's fucking rough.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:46Joe Rogan?

  And, you know, Dave Smith talked about that.

• 19:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:49Joe Rogan?

  Thank, thank the people who brought us into wars that cost trillions of fucking dollars.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  Well, not only that, you know, I was talking to my aunt about immigration, who I like, and she, you know, was, was basically going, I said, you know, "I think you also have to pause legal immigration for a, a minute." And she goes, "Well, then who's gonna be your doctor?" Because she has an Indian doctor.

• 20:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 20:11Speaker 01

  And I said, "Well, wait a minute."

• 20:12Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  I said, "Hold on."

• 20:14Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  I, that's what she said. She goes, "Well, who's gonna be your doctor?" She's a boomer aunt, sitting at my house in Southampton.

• 20:19Joe Rogan?

  Ahhh.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  You know, going, "Well, who's gonna be your doctor?" And I go, "Why are we not training?" American children to be doctors in America. What'd she say to that? She goes, "Well, no one does their homework. I was a teacher for thirty years and I know that no one does their homework." And I go, "Do you think it's possible that nobody does their homework? Because we need two incomes to run a house and kids are left to play video games by themselves and they're not being parented." You know? So, I think this idea of like, "We're importing doctors."

• 20:55Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? Because this whole idea is like, "Oh, these are jobs Americans won't do." And then they're like, "Well, it's agriculture and stuff." And it's like, "Okay, you can understand some of that." But then you're like, "Wait a minute." Are you saying Americans don't want to be doctors? That's crazy. They don't want to work in hotels or restaurants. Then you start going, "Well, what jobs can Americans do?" I mean, Marc Andreessen came out, and I don't know if you have the quote, Jamie, but like, Marc Andreessen literally was talking about, and I don't have a problem with Marc Andreessen per se. I think this statement was silly. He said, "Oh yeah, after AI takes over, like, one of the only jobs that's gonna be okay," I swear to God, he said this, "is venture capital." He goes, "That'll be okay."

• 21:35Speaker 01

  Because we'll still need to make judgments about what's a worthy investment strategy. How convenient that his job will be saved. Well, this is the whole thing, right? Yeah, right there. Marc Andreessen says, "One job is mostly saved from AI venture capital." It's just funny to me that That's hilarious. That this is the direction. If immigrants were taking the jobs of Hollywood screenwriters, they would not be celebrating it. If immigrants were taking the job of people at white shoe law firms, they would not be celebrating it. If they were taking the job of investment bankers, they would not be celebrating it. It's very obvious. Yeah.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  There's not anything wrong with the immigrants who come here. Obviously, that I would come here too, to take someone's job because I'd want to survive. It's just a weird argument, like, "Who's gonna be your doctor?" That's a really weird argument. And it's kind of-

• 22:33Joe Rogan?

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• 23:19Joe Rogan?

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• 24:04Joe Rogan?

  The idea that you need- Hopefully true. But yes, no, I'm kidding, yes. The most racist is like, who's gonna clean your toilet? Like, we've seen that- Well, that was Kelly Osbourne on The View. She's like, "Mr. Trump, who's gonna eat your shit? If you don't have immigrants here, who's gonna eat your shit when you shit in a toilet?" By the way, is she in the witness protection program? Cause she looks like a totally different human being now. I don't know what they did. They popped her on somebody's zamps and they threw her in the shed. Have you seen the new alien show that's on Hulu? No, I haven't. It's really good. It's an alien show. But one of the things that they do is they, they take like a dying person- Yeah. And they download their consciousness- Interesting. Into like a symbiotic organism. And is this, is this fake or is it real? Like, are they a real dying person? Well-

• 24:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's a fictional thing? It's a fictional- Okay. It's Alien the Movie. Gotcha. Like Ridley Scott, Alien. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. And I wonder if that happened to her. Well, for sure. Because otherwise, like, how does she look?

• 25:02Speaker 01

  That's the problem. You want to defend Hollywood people sometimes against the QAnon stuff, and then you look at them and you're like, "Oh, God, can you make it easier for me to say you're not a clown?"

• 25:13Speaker 01

  I mean, these young girls, they're 23 years old and they have so much plastic surgery, they look like they're 47.

• 25:18Joe Rogan?

  It's nuts.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 25:20Joe Rogan?

  They have Botox already, and they're in their twenties.

• 25:21Speaker 01

  And then all the QAnon people are like, "It's because they're not getting enough of the whatever," you know, adrenochrome, and you're like, "No, that's not it." And then you look at their faces, you go, "Oh, shit." Maybe it is it. I mean...

• 25:33Joe Rogan?

  Show me a photo of, uh, she looks great. I should say this.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 25:36Joe Rogan?

  I'm just joking around. I'm sure...

• 25:38Speaker 01

  We're all kidding.

• 25:39Joe Rogan?

  She hasn't been downloaded into a new body.

• 25:41Speaker 01

  Not yet.

• 25:42Joe Rogan?

  But if I had her on the po- like, if someone said, "You want Kelly Osbourne to be on the podcast," and I said, "Sure," and she showed up, I'm like, "Who the fuck are you?"

• 25:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a fully new head. She has a new head.

• 25:53Joe Rogan?

  Like, that's kind of crazy.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  She just got a new head.

• 25:56Joe Rogan?

  That's kind of crazy. The left one, I'm like, "Oh, yeah, that's Ozzy."

• 26:00Speaker 01

  A lesbian.

• 26:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  And the right one is hot and kind of, and seems to be Asian.

• 26:06Joe Rogan?

  Go to the other one, the last one that you showed up, the one, those, yeah, that one. That's kind of...

• 26:11Speaker 01

  Can you go to 2003 and 2025? That's my favorite one right there.

• 26:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right below that.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Please go to that one.

• 26:16Joe Rogan?

  That one. Okay.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  Okay, so the left is me, and then the right, yeah.

• 26:20Joe Rogan?

  That seems so crazy. Like, that is a totally different human. She has a completely different face.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  Well, it shows you...

• 26:31Joe Rogan?

  What did they do to her jaw?

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Well, they do all of this stuff now. They break the bones in your face, and then they shave them.

• 26:39Speaker 01

  But I think that's nice. I think that's nice that people can get a new head, or...

• 26:46Speaker 01

  If they want, because many people struggle with the same head their entire life.

• 26:50Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  But if you're a multimillionaire and you're in Hollywood and you want another head...

• 26:55Joe Rogan?

  God, that's so crazy. She looks great. I should say...

• 26:58Speaker 01

  She looks great.

• 26:59Joe Rogan?

  It's not, is the opposite of what we used to see with plastic surgery when people got into their 40s, like in the 90s?

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Getting good.

• 27:06Joe Rogan?

  They'd get the weird giant mouth, where it looks like they're about to eat someone's whole head?

• 27:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:11Joe Rogan?

  Where their, their mouth goes all the way up to their ears because they've been pulling their face back?

• 27:15Speaker 01

  They've done a really, really good job at... At in- in- inventing another physical form that you can inhabit. It's great.

• 27:27Joe Rogan?

  It's never-

• 27:28Speaker 01

  It's creepy.

• 27:29Joe Rogan?

  It's never been done before to this extent.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  No way.

• 27:32Joe Rogan?

  Because look at, uh, the Kardashian lady. What's her name?

• 27:35Speaker 01

  Kris.

• 27:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  She keeps getting younger.

• 27:37Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  It's sick.

• 27:38Joe Rogan?

  Her new face?

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Is great.

• 27:41Joe Rogan?

  Is bananas.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  It's my favorite of her heads.

• 27:43Joe Rogan?

  And we're just talking about this now, knowing that that's the original head that's been altered.

• 27:48Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 27:49Joe Rogan?

  When are we gonna be talking about completely actually new heads?

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Her second head wasn't as good.

• 27:55Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  No, her third head is the head.

• 27:57Joe Rogan?

  The new head is bananas.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  This is my favorite of her heads.

• 28:01Joe Rogan?

  She's like eighty years old on the left, and on the right, she's thirty-seven?

• 28:06Speaker 01

  This woman-

• 28:07Joe Rogan?

  Even her neck looks great.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  They figured it out. They got it right.

• 28:10Joe Rogan?

  Crazy.

• 28:11Speaker 01

  Now, here's what happens, though. There's a movie called Death Becomes Her. This was a famous movie.

• 28:16Joe Rogan?

  Look at that picture right there, before and after. One of those was before and after. One in the middle of the screen, Jamie?

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:21Joe Rogan?

  Right to the right. Middle screen. To the right, to the right. No, that one right there. Click on that one. Yeah. That's nuts.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 28:29Joe Rogan?

  That's- that's Kim Kardashian. That's her mom, but that's Kim, right? Like, that's crazy. If you told me that was Kim Kardashian, I was like, oh, I like her with the short hair. She looks beautiful.

• 28:39Speaker 01

  There's gotta be-

• 28:40Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 28:41Speaker 01

  But here's my question for this. This- there has to be a... Doesn't there have to be a downside?

• 28:50Joe Rogan?

  To that?

• 28:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. Maybe not.

• 28:52Joe Rogan?

  Listen, you're talking to a guy who's had two reconstructed knees.

• 28:56Speaker 01

  Right.

• 28:56Joe Rogan?

  So surgery's awesome, to me.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  I agree with you.

• 28:59Joe Rogan?

  Like, I- if I would be a cripple if I lived in the eighteen hundreds.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  I- I'm wondering if-

• 29:04Joe Rogan?

  What's the downside?

• 29:06Speaker 01

  Some of this might... Couldn't it- couldn't possibly her fa- you know when those-

• 29:11Joe Rogan?

  She looks better.

• 29:12Speaker 01

  I agree with you.

• 29:13Joe Rogan?

  She looks better than her daughter.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  But those BBLs explode.

• 29:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's not a good thing.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  So couldn't her face, one day?

• 29:20Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Really?

• 29:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because they're just removing, they're just removing tissue and they're tightening it up and they're probably got some techniques with like

• 29:26Speaker 01

  I'm into it.

• 29:28Joe Rogan?

  I'm into it. They, they, with laser resurfacing, I don't know if you've ever seen some of that? It's so scary what they look like right after they do it.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:36Joe Rogan?

  You're basically burning off the upper dermis. You're burning off like, you know, whatever, how much of a percentage of a millimeter.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:45Joe Rogan?

  And then your whole face becomes a mask that gets removed. It's like the skin gets cooked off and then you peel it, like you see them, it looks like they, they got torched by a fucking, it looks like SpaceX, they got underneath it.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  They got underneath it.

• 30:00Joe Rogan?

  Took it in the face.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  Something, I worry a little bit about a society where people keep chasing youth.

• 30:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 30:06Speaker 01

  My grandfather, my grandmother, old people, wrinkles, wisdom. You know, my grandmother was not running around trying to look like her daughter.

• 30:16Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 30:17Speaker 01

  I worry a little bit about, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with cosmetic surgery and people should look as good as they want. I worry a little bit spiritually, slightly, about where this leads.

• 30:27Joe Rogan?

  That's a good worry.

• 30:29Speaker 01

  That's all.

• 30:29Joe Rogan?

  No, that's legitimate.

• 30:30Speaker 01

  And I, and I'm saying this as someone who likes her new look.

• 30:34Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  I think she looks good and I would not tell her to not do it.

• 30:38Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  I'm just wondering if someone's 90 and they look 30. I'm a little curious. I guess we're just heading towards everlasting life on earth?

• 30:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, it depends on what your focus is. So if you're a person that focuses on expanding your consciousness and you're constantly reading and you're absorbing new, and you just wanna have more energy and be youthful, that's great. But if the whole thing you're chasing is I want people to wanna fuck me. That gets weird.

• 31:10Speaker 01

  Well, not only that, but of course that, but also to me, there's something.

• 31:18Speaker 01

  Strange about the denial of death. The denial of that life is finite in a physical form and the idea that you are going to live forever to me feels there's gotta be some examination of that. Part of this feels like that a little bit.

• 31:41Joe Rogan?

  There's a little bit of that.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Some of these people are trying to live forever and I'm wondering about that.

• 31:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, they certainly want to stay younger for a lot longer than anybody ever has before. And then you get into the weird realm of a lot of these people that want to do something to the body where it becomes immortal. Right?

• 32:06Speaker 01

  Right, and that's very interesting to me and I

• 32:08Joe Rogan?

  Transhumanism.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, and that to me is a little scary. I don't understand, I'm not smart enough to understand it and I worry about it from many angles.

• 32:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, it gets weird when it's really rich people.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:21Joe Rogan?

  Right, because when it's really young people and you're like, you want to stay young forever, so you're 23 and you're getting Botox, oh, you poor kid.

• 32:27Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:28Joe Rogan?

  You're just delusional, you don't know what you're doing, you're fucking up. But when you want to stay alive forever and you continue to amass insane amounts of wealth.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:39Joe Rogan?

  That's where it gets weird. Like, you don't want to quit the game. Like, you're in this, uh, you know, having incredible

• 32:46Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:46Joe Rogan?

  financial influence over the world game. You're worth 80 billion dollars, 200 billion dollars, and you want to keep that ball rolling.

• 32:55Speaker 01

  That to me is a little scary.

• 32:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's scary because if the game continues, like, let's look at, uh, like, look at Bezos, for example.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:03Joe Rogan?

  Right? Like, let's imagine that Amazon continues to expand and grow, Bezos continues to profit off of it, and right now, he's like, what is he, like, 58 or 59 or something like that?

• 33:13Speaker 01

  About that, probably.

• 33:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, what would he be when he's 120? Would he have 30 trillion dollars?

• 33:19Speaker 01

  He'd have a lot more than he does now.

• 33:21Joe Rogan?

  And would that?

• 33:22Speaker 01

  And his power would grow.

• 33:24Joe Rogan?

  And if people started encroaching on that power and trying to limit it and trying to, you know, you know, that's where it gets weird. They get defensive, right? If people want to tax the rich, eat the rich. They get a look and they're like, okay, I gotta fucking build thicker walls.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Get the bunkers.

• 33:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I gotta do something.

• 33:41Speaker 01

  Well, they just said.

• 33:42Joe Rogan?

  Work with the government to create some laws.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  The World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, just said, and I think it was Klaus Schwab, not Larry Fink, the Blackstone guy or BlackRock, who's now the interim president or whatever.

• 33:54Joe Rogan?

  Thank God.

• 33:55Speaker 01

  Thank God. Someone who understands the issues. Um, but Klaus Schwab is basically like, I believe we're heading towards stakeholder capitalism.

• 34:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  Which is people, private individuals, that have this, it's a public-private partnership, where you have guys like Bill Gates, Elon Bezos, whoever, people at that level, that have a large stake in a public-private partnership that's running society. And I think that scares people a little bit, or it's a curiosity, because you start going, and it's always kind of been the case, I mean, JP Morgan bailed the federal government out years ago, like, these guys have always had a ton of power, but with tech, the level of power in terms of surveillance and data mining,

• 34:48Speaker 01

  and the power over your life has never been as Orwellian as it is now. And it, even with AI and all of these models, it's even going to get more intrusive.

• 34:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  So I think it's not only these great fortunes, but it's their capability to literally be gods, to literally know what you're thinking, what you fear, what you want, your desires, all of these things, having all your data, knowing everything you do, knowing how fast your heart is beating. You know, all these wearable things that you have that are transmitting frequencies to, you know, someplace where all of your health data is being stored? That's what bothers a lot of people. It's what bothers people about this Palantir thing.

• 35:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday.

• 35:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:35Joe Rogan?

  The Palantir thing is very odd.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  A lot of people feel that this is the precursor to, you know, a social credit score.

• 35:43Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:44Speaker 01

  A digital kind of police state.

• 35:46Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  And that it's being done under the guise of security, that you will be safer.

• 35:51Joe Rogan?

  Which is what the Patriot Act was brought through with.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  That's exactly right.

• 35:54Joe Rogan?

  It's always the case. It's always the case. They always sneak it in, like, you gotta be safe.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:58Joe Rogan?

  And then you get the Benjamin Franklin quote.

• 36:01Speaker 01

  The people that want security, right, they, they, they, something about, they deserve neither?

• 36:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  They trade liberty for security, deserve neither. Yeah, I mean, it's true. I just think, you know, you know, Peter Thiel's giving a four-part lecture on the Antichrist.

• 36:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that seems odd.

• 36:18Speaker 01

  Four part, well, here's what's really wild to me. Four parts. It's not just one. One lecture on the Antichrist would be insane. This guy's doing a series. He's doing a four-part lecture on the Antichrist, and nobody in his inner orbit went, "Peter, how about one lecture on the Antichrist or no lectures?" Not four.

• 36:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, I don't think he understands the optics.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  He certainly does not.

• 36:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  It's, it's, it's odd. Yeah.

• 36:51Joe Rogan?

  They get sold out.

• 36:54Speaker 01

  Well, of course.

• 36:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's a private, it's a private lecture at a club in San Francisco about the Antichrist. What does he know about the Antichrist? Is he like?

• 37:02Speaker 01

  I'm guessing a lot.

• 37:04Joe Rogan?

  If, if you told me there was a movie and there was a guy who played the Antichrist, zoom in on that image of him?

• 37:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:12Joe Rogan?

  I would say, "Oh, is that him? Was that the Antichrist?"

• 37:18Speaker 01

  This is like me doing a four-part lecture on Long Island racism.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  Just to show everybody, you know, how much I know about it and how scary it is and how we gotta watch out for it, but it's totally not me or anyone I know. It's no one that's ever been in my backyard, but those others, he's a, he's just kind of, you know, leaning in, I guess.

• 37:45Joe Rogan?

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• 39:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, I just don't understand, like, why, what, I would like, someone saw it. Someone saw one of the lectures that he did on the Antichrist.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  Was it good?

• 39:33Joe Rogan?

  It might have been Duncan. He said it was boring.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  It's of course gonna be boring.

• 39:37Joe Rogan?

  But I don't understand, like, what is he doing?

• 39:40Speaker 01

  He's trying to prove he's not the Antichrist.

• 39:42Joe Rogan?

  By talking, by ratting him out?

• 39:43Speaker 01

  By doing it. He's like, if I was the Ant- I mean, that's probably how the lecture starts. He goes, "Now, if I was the Antichrist, I obviously wouldn't be doing this lecture."

• 39:52Joe Rogan?

  You know what it's like?

• 39:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:53Joe Rogan?

  It's like those really shitty men

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:56Joe Rogan?

  that become male feminists.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 39:58Joe Rogan?

  And then they tweet, "Believe all women."

• 40:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:00Joe Rogan?

  And you're like, "Hey, hey, hey, hey."

• 40:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:03Joe Rogan?

  "I know you."

• 40:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 40:04Joe Rogan?

  "You're a piece of shit."

• 40:05Speaker 01

  Didn't OJ Simpson write a book called, "If I Did It?"

• 40:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I have a copy of it.

• 40:09Speaker 01

  So this is Peter Thiel's version of that. His lecture on the Antichrist is, "If I Did It."

• 40:14Joe Rogan?

  I think my wife threw it out, honestly.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  No!

• 40:17Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  Oh, come on.

• 40:18Joe Rogan?

  She's known to do things like that.

• 40:20Speaker 01

  I get it. As a woman, you would see it and go, "He doesn't need this."

• 40:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, she thinks it's for- uh, uh, 'cause I go, "Somebody gave it to me for fun." It's signed.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  Right.

• 40:28Joe Rogan?

  It was a signed copy.

• 40:29Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 40:30Joe Rogan?

  And sometimes she will throw things like that out if they're not- if they gather dust for a little too long.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  I understand.

• 40:35Joe Rogan?

  I don't take a- I don't lock it in my office.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  I- "If I Did It" is laying on the kitchen counter.

• 40:41Joe Rogan?

  But I had a copy of it for- I didn't even open it.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  It's so strange.

• 40:45Joe Rogan?

  No, I did open it. I did- I opened it a little bit, and I was like, "What?"

• 40:48Speaker 01

  It's so strange to have this- you build military, AI military drone, autonomous drone technology

• 40:54Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  to- to export to war zones all over the world.

• 40:57Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  You build domestic surveillance technology to surveil our friends and neighbors, and then your other pet passion is the Antichrist.

• 41:12Speaker 01

  It's odd. Wouldn't you include tennis? Wouldn't you go, "And I'm big into tennis." Something else.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  It's odd. "And I like ice fishing. I build autonomous drone technology. I build domestic surveillance technology."

• 41:28Joe Rogan?

  And I love lake trout.

• 41:29Speaker 01

  And I love lake trout, and I love bigmouth bass fishing. But instead, he goes, "And I've also developed quite a keen interest in Satan."

• 41:41Speaker 01

  And I'd love to And I'd love to talk to everyone about it for four fucking things in San Francisco. Four things in San Francisco.

• 41:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  Seems a bit much.

• 41:54Joe Rogan?

  What's Whitney Webb's take on this?

• 41:56Speaker 01

  I bet it's, it's, she's probably, I mean Whitney's research is so unbelievable.

• 42:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, but by the way, I should say.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:03Joe Rogan?

  Before I go any further than that.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:04Joe Rogan?

  Whitney Webb has some strange conspiracy that she believes someone's trying to keep her from being on my show.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 42:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Whitney, I'll have you on the show. I just haven't reached out because I have thousands of people to go through.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  He's busy.

• 42:18Joe Rogan?

  I would definitely do it, though.

• 42:19Speaker 01

  We've had Whitney on a bunch.

• 42:20Joe Rogan?

  The idea that I wouldn't do it is incorrect and I apologize.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  She's enormously, um...

• 42:27Joe Rogan?

  Autistic.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  Well, there's a lot of this. She talks like this a lot and she's just, the pentameter of her voice is very like this and she goes...

• 42:32Joe Rogan?

  She knows a lot.

• 42:33Speaker 01

  She knows a lot about things. She goes, Jeffrey Epstein, on the third day in January 1996, he met with this guy. You know, like, but she is...

• 42:40Joe Rogan?

  With no notes. No notes. She's off the top of her head. Yeah.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  But she's really enormously amazing at research. She's an amazing researcher. She like has compiled the data.

• 42:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. No, she definitely has and how they kill all those people in Germany, nobody's whacked her yet.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  She's somewhere in South America, I think.

• 43:01Joe Rogan?

  Good move.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, smart.

• 43:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I guess.

• 43:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:04Joe Rogan?

  But, I mean, how much resources does she have to protect herself down there?

• 43:07Speaker 01

  One of the reasons I think people like her end up being safe is she writes these very big, um, very studious books that no one in America reads.

• 43:16Joe Rogan?

  That's it. Where no one, it's not a threat.

• 43:19Speaker 01

  It's not a threat.

• 43:20Joe Rogan?

  Because it doesn't go mainstream.

• 43:21Speaker 01

  It's not a threat. Now, these big Hollywood types that go, I'm gonna blow the whistle on whatever the hell's going on, they go, bye-bye. You know what I mean? Or a mainstream journalist who's like, I'm gonna write an article about something and, you know, it's gonna lead to a congressional investigation.

• 43:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 43:36Speaker 01

  They go, bye-bye.

• 43:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's when you actually create problems, not when you're just a part of the right-wing conspiracy ecosphere.

• 43:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, because they can just dismiss you as a crank and then you've written volumes of this book and no one cares. Like, and by the way, I'm not saying it's not a great book, I'm saying it's not moving the needle for them. If you have a hard drive, uh, with something on it, a USB, if somebody gives you, you know, if you have something that could put them in jail.

• 44:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 44:07Speaker 01

  You're dead.

• 44:09Joe Rogan?

  So how is Anthony Weiner still alive?

• 44:12Speaker 01

  Anthony Weiner's still alive because I believe there's two possibilities. Number one, there's a dead man's switch somewhere, meaning that there's something somewhere.

• 44:22Joe Rogan?

  You know the story about his laptop with the cops that saw it?

• 44:25Speaker 01

  And supposedly they're all dead?

• 44:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:28Joe Rogan?

  A bunch of them.

• 44:29Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 44:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, how many cops are dead? Google that. And but the other thing is that they said what they saw was so horrific.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  Then that's they, yeah.

• 44:38Joe Rogan?

  And like some of them took their own lives.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  Well, that's crazy. That that whenever I whenever there's so many suicides, I start to get a little, I'm like, wait a minute, hold on, what happened here?

• 44:50Joe Rogan?

  Also, did you ever see him on Patrick Pack David when he starts bringing up the Clinton body count?

• 44:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, and and and.

• 44:55Joe Rogan?

  And he gets like super defensive.

• 44:57Speaker 01

  Well, it's very obvious that.

• 44:59Speaker 03

  A Grok conversation came up with an answer here.

• 45:02Speaker 01

  Grok.

• 45:02Joe Rogan?

  Not true?

• 45:03Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 45:04Joe Rogan?

  Okay, um.

• 45:05Speaker 01

  Grok's been compromised.

• 45:06Joe Rogan?

  Claim that nine of the 12 NYPD officers who viewed Anthony Weiner's laptop subsequently died by suicide has been widely circulated, but it lacks substantiation with concrete evidence linking these officers directly to Weiner's laptop. Here's the details based on available information. Joseph Calabrese, by the way, that guy's on the take.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 45:28Joe Rogan?

  That name.

• 45:29Speaker 01

  No, of course.

• 45:29Joe Rogan?

  Hey, Joseph wants a taste. Joseph Calabrese, he sounds like a great chef. NYPD detective allegedly involved in Anthony Weiner investigation was found dead from an apartment self-inflicted gunshot wound, which unfortunately, a lot of cops end up taking their own lives. They're a lot of PTSD. It's a fucking horrible job. However, there's no direct evidence linking him to viewing the laptop's contents. Okay. Steven Silk's Deputy Chief of NYPD reportedly involved with the laptop investigation was found dead in apparent suicide. Like Calabrese, no, no evidence confirms his involvement. Doesn't mean he wasn't involved, viewing the specific incriminating files on Weiner's laptop. Other officers, various

• 46:12Joe Rogan?

  reports mention a total of nine NYPD officers who committed suicide in 2019, but no official sources. Or credible reports explicitly connect these suicides to viewing Weiner's laptop. How could they?

• 46:26Speaker 01

  There's, there, this is one of those non-denial denials. You would have to know somebody in the police force. By the way.

• 46:31Joe Rogan?

  But it also could be bullshit.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  It could absolutely be bullshit, but there is, I have zero problem believing that Anthony Weiner had a laptop with some very bad things on it.

• 46:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, for sure, he was involved.

• 46:46Joe Rogan?

  Look, he was, they were grooming that guy to be some huge politician.

• 46:53Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 46:53Joe Rogan?

  And then somehow or another, he's sending his dick pictures to young people.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  There's definitely, and, and it's been exposed, I think, by the Epstein thing. There's, there's an entire ecosystem of depravity amongst the ruling elites that people go to great lengths to cover up. This is obvious. So.

• 47:18Joe Rogan?

  It always has.

• 47:19Speaker 01

  And always has forever and ever and ever. And there would, it would make, it would be absolutely plausible to me that people have died to cover this stuff up, as John Luke Braddell, Jeffrey Epstein, many others.

• 47:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 47:37Speaker 01

  Maybe Virginia Jeffrey, I don't know. But like, there's tons of questionable deaths linked to the Epstein thing. And by the way, linked to things like the Franklin scandal that happened many years ago. All of the Gary, Gary Caradore was an investigator who supposedly had proof of politicians abusing children, plane goes down with his kid.

• 47:58Joe Rogan?

  Whitewater.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Whitewater.

• 48:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Suspicious deaths.

• 48:03Joe Rogan?

  Vince Foster.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  This is very suspicious death.

• 48:06Joe Rogan?

  I read that book, The Strange Death of Vince Foster.

• 48:09Speaker 01

  Very odd.

• 48:09Joe Rogan?

  In the like, the nineties or whenever it was that I got a copy of that. I was like, this is bananas.

• 48:14Speaker 01

  He was the, the governor of Arkansas when they were running drugs out of Mena, Arkansas to fund the Contras.

• 48:20Joe Rogan?

  Barry Seals.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 48:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:22Speaker 01

  Bill Clinton was the governor of that state. Bill Clinton reads a book called, uh, it's a Famous book by Carol Quigley, I believe called Tragedy and Hope. And it's a history of the, whatever, the 20th century or something. That, you know, it's this compendium. Uh, it's Bill Clinton's favorite author. He reads this book and he's, you know, attends the, you know, Bohemian Grove. He's selected by very wealthy, powerful people to then become a party elder and a leader. And many people believe, myself, uh, is that in order to be selected by that group of people to run for the highest office in the land, they have something on you. You're to some degree compromised.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  You've shown willingness to play the game. You've looked the other way, at the very least. Maybe you're, you're, you've engaged, but at the very least, if somebody goes, something's going on in Mina, Arkansas, you go, ah, don't have time for it. And you've shown the willingness to play the game.

• 49:25Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 49:26Speaker 01

  And so he's the governor of the very small state that isn't, isn't, you know, Arkansas is a beautiful state and there's whatever, but he's not, you know, he's not like running a huge state. He's not, uh, you know, a, a, a well-known politician. He's a very, he's a very charismatic, very great speaker, great politician from a very small state. He's then elevated very quickly to the standard bearer of the Democratic Party after tons of allegations about inappropriate behavior with women, credible allegations of rape

• 50:07Speaker 01

  from Juanita Broderick, you know, being the governor during that, that whole Mina Arkansas thing. You know, he's, they, it's well-known that there are skeletons.

• 50:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  In the closet.

• 50:19Joe Rogan?

  It's a good guy that's gonna play the game for you.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he knows, and he's gonna play the game. And, and his wife is gonna play the game.

• 50:26Joe Rogan?

  But doesn't it go all the way back to college? Like, think about like skull and bones and all those different things. Like, if you wanna be a part of these clubs and little secret societies and organizations, you gotta do some weird shit. You gotta suck someone's dick. You gotta, you know.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:40Joe Rogan?

  They gotta put a wine bottle up your ass and take a picture of it. There's gotta be something that happens.

• 50:43Speaker 01

  There's gotta be some, I think back then, there was a ton of that. And I think now, there's probably still a lot of that. But I think also now, what they do with people. In addition to those things, is they just have the ability with technology to know kinda what you're doing.

• 51:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, now it's off the charts.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  Now it's off the charts.

• 51:04Joe Rogan?

  Now it's off the charts.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  Now it's like, now they've got you dead to rights.

• 51:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 51:08Speaker 01

  On a lot of shit.

• 51:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, if you're doing something fucked up, they know.

• 51:12Speaker 01

  They know.

• 51:12Joe Rogan?

  For sure.

• 51:13Speaker 01

  They know.

• 51:13Joe Rogan?

  And then they're holding on to those cards.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  Cause back then, you're right, it was almost quaint back then. They were like, "Come to the tomb, show everybody your dick," or whatever.

• 51:22Joe Rogan?

  Let Bob pee in your mouth.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  "Let Bob pee in your mouth." Now it's gotten to the point where they like, they have you and know what you're doing. You're on the grid and you've been on the grid for your whole life, by the way.

• 51:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  Now kids growing up, young people growing up, have been on the grid their entire life.

• 51:38Joe Rogan?

  The whole life, everything is out there.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  Now people are going, "Please, Bob, pee in my mouth." Like, "Just let me have that one night." I'm now surveilled, no matter what you're doing.

• 51:49Joe Rogan?

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• 53:52Speaker 01

  I mean, you know, that's the thing that a lot of people talk about, DC is this hot bed of like, everyone in Congress and a lot of people, you know, in the Senate, Congress, White House, whatever. They're all mixed up in these weird shenanigans.

• 54:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, didn't you just have Marjorie Taylor Greene?

• 54:08Speaker 01

  We're having her on soon, yeah, it's coming out soon. She talks about that a lot.

• 54:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, do you remember the DC Madam case?

• 54:15Speaker 01

  They got rid of her, Deborah Jean Paul free.

• 54:17Joe Rogan?

  What happened to her?

• 54:18Speaker 01

  Dead, dead.

• 54:19Joe Rogan?

  How inconvenient.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  So sad. Unfortunate.

• 54:22Joe Rogan?

  Super unfortunate that a lady-

• 54:23Speaker 01

  Super unfortunate.

• 54:24Joe Rogan?

  Who was bringing prostitutes to all these powerful people-

• 54:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:28Joe Rogan?

  -ended up dying after she said that she was gonna reveal who was on the list.

• 54:31Speaker 01

  But, that, again, is the... Now think about that, and Epstein is that times 100, cuz now it's international.

• 54:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  Now you have leaders of all, like, we've got our congressmen, senators.

• 54:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, you went from millionaires to billionaires.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  Millionaires to billionaires.

• 54:51Joe Rogan?

  That's the difference.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 54:53Joe Rogan?

  The congressman, I mean, even Nancy Pelosi, that pauper.

• 54:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:57Joe Rogan?

  What, she's worth a paltry 400 million?

• 54:59Speaker 01

  She's nothing, in the grand scheme of things, she's nothing. She's just an ordinary crook.

• 55:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  And, and, and, and, and, respect to her and her husband for all his returns, 54% or whatever.

• 55:10Joe Rogan?

  More.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Killing it.

• 55:12Joe Rogan?

  Pretty amazing.

• 55:13Speaker 01

  Killing it.

• 55:14Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that's why-

• 55:15Speaker 01

  Why marry that old witch if you can't get your beak wet?

• 55:16Joe Rogan?

  Cuz she's got some big yabbos.

• 55:18Speaker 01

  But you know what I mean, she does have big yabbos, but- She's another, why don't they give her a head? She's got that money.

• 55:24Joe Rogan?

  She needs a new head.

• 55:25Speaker 01

  Get a head!

• 55:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think she doesn't want to do it now because she doesn't want people to not recognize her.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 55:31Joe Rogan?

  Because if you're Chris Kardashian.

• 55:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:33Joe Rogan?

  And you're wandering around now.

• 55:34Speaker 01

  I would not know her, if I saw her in Beverly Hills.

• 55:36Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  I would not know who that is.

• 55:38Joe Rogan?

  Kelly Osbourne, who's that?

• 55:40Speaker 01

  Who knows?

• 55:40Joe Rogan?

  That's not the lady from that show that I used to watch when I was a kid.

• 55:43Speaker 01

  No, it's completely a different person.

• 55:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's hot now.

• 55:47Speaker 01

  Is there a possibility there's a Jeffrey Epstein walking around that we don't know who it is?

• 55:51Joe Rogan?

  Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein didn't die in his cell and that's why he was shit?

• 55:54Speaker 01

  I was told by someone who, um, and this is probably ridiculous, but they said there is a possibility that Epstein is, you know, Les Wexner's got that big house in Ohio.

• 56:05Joe Rogan?

  He's there?

• 56:06Speaker 01

  They, somebody said it's a possibility, a tiny one, that he's living at Les Wexner's house in Ohio.

• 56:11Joe Rogan?

  If that was true, there would be like...

• 56:14Speaker 01

  No, I'm not sick.

• 56:15Joe Rogan?

  There would be a service that delivers masseuses.

• 56:17Speaker 01

  Of course, yeah.

• 56:19Joe Rogan?

  There's no way that guy's stopping doing creepy shit.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  They'll shut their mouth, here's the other thing, they'll shut their mouth. Because it's very easy, there's, obviously, the abuse is horrific, but I guarantee there are people that would still shut their mouth.

• 56:33Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  You could find them.

• 56:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'm sure.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  You could find them.

• 56:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think that's the whole idea behind this, and this is what Eric Weinstein said to me.

• 56:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:41Joe Rogan?

  He said, "I believe that there are people that curate experiences for people that are very high-profile and very wealthy."

• 56:47Speaker 01

  That's right, which would, I'll be doing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and Abu Dhabi the night before. Get your tickets now, Tim Dolan.

• 56:53Joe Rogan?

  You're doing Abu Dhabi the night before?

• 56:53Speaker 01

  The night before to warm up. October, I'll be in October, Abu Dhabi, October 6th, and then Riyadh, October 8th, and October 7th, the day of rest and remembrance.

• 57:03Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?

• 57:07Joe Rogan?

  Are you bringing security or what?

• 57:08Speaker 01

  Tel Aviv, pay me, supposedly MBS is a fan of mine, I don't know if that's true, but Sam Morril told me, and Sam Morril's not a liar.

• 57:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, why would he be a fan? You're talking shit about all the people he hates.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  Well, I have fun, I think MBS has fun.

• 57:25Speaker 01

  I have a fun life, I don't apologize, I think we have a good time on this planet, we're here for, we don't hurt other people, we don't do anything wrong, I don't know what he's doing, perhaps he's hurt others, I wasn't in the room, and...

• 57:42Speaker 01

  And I think that, you know, I, I think, I believe in luxury as a concept. They wanna, they want the Middle East to be a little more progressive, they want it to be luxurious.

• 57:52Joe Rogan?

  Women can drive now.

• 57:53Speaker 01

  Women are driving. Listen.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  Listen, if we could, we don't want the gays going off the roof, obviously, I don't want to be thrown off a roof, but we also, do we need them to, with the purple hair and the 15 genders? No, let's stop somewhere in the middle. Maybe we stop somewhere in the middle.

• 58:11Joe Rogan?

  So maybe he's just like an agent of change.

• 58:14Speaker 01

  That's what I'm going with.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  He's perhaps an agent of change. You know what I mean?

• 58:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I see.

• 58:25Speaker 01

  I don't think, you know, I mean, listen, there were comics who went to perform in Israel that got stuck there because of the Iran-Israel war, and they had to get out.

• 58:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 58:34Speaker 01

  I didn't go, "How dare you perform there."

• 58:37Speaker 01

  You know?

• 58:39Speaker 01

  You went to Israel to perform, okay.

• 58:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, in Israel right now, where they went to perform, Tel Aviv, there's massive protests on the street about what's happening in Gaza.

• 58:48Speaker 01

  Yes, that's right.

• 58:50Joe Rogan?

  Israel protest-

• 58:51Speaker 01

  People are sick of it, they've had enough of it.

• 58:53Joe Rogan?

  Half a million people in Tel Aviv.

• 58:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:56Joe Rogan?

  On the streets.

• 58:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, they want Netanyahu, I think a lot of people have started to, they are seeing the grift here. Netanyahu is keeping, he wants this war to go on for decades.

• 59:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's been running that country for how long now?

• 59:08Speaker 01

  He's been running it a long time, they haven't had elections in a while, he's got this, this, you know, war, uh, this crisis government or whatever they've compiled, you know, I mean, I think it's time to, a lot of people are going, enough is enough.

• 59:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, thank God the Milk Boys got to the bottom of everything.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  They got to the bottom of it, and, you know, it was a brilliant... I didn't know how he felt about Burger King. I never knew. And now I do. Um, well, listen, we have these shows, everybody has a platform, everybody wants to be on these shows, and everybody has a line of bullshit. We all, we know, it's the way it is.

• 59:46Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 59:46Speaker 01

  It's the way it is. It's unavoidable. It's not, you can't avoid it. People get mad. "You, you talk to who?" Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's what it is. You're listening to the thing.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  Maybe I do a great job, maybe I do a okay job, maybe I do a bad job. I don't know. But you're the person listening. You can choose to like it, dislike it. You can say that guy's full of shit. You can say I agree with him there, but I don't agree with him there. You could say I distrust this person. You could say he makes my spidey senses go off. Those are all available. You can have any of those thoughts.

• 1:00:21Joe Rogan?

  And you could also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person.

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  You can also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person.

• 1:00:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, when people have that thought with me.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  And that's fair.

• 1:00:28Joe Rogan?

  And or that I don't push back hard enough, or you're allowed to think all those things. Everybody's allowed to have their own opinions on all this shit.

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  Everyone's allowed.

• 1:00:37Joe Rogan?

  Um, but, you know, we're living in the wildest fucking time.

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  This is the wildest time probably that that I can remember. I'm sure there's other wilder times.

• 1:00:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think this is globally the wildest time ever because there's never been a connection like this with everybody and everything.

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  A guy who's perpetuating an ethnic cleansing, going on the podcast of prank video influencers to discuss Burger King is one of the craziest things I've seen in my life.

• 1:01:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:08Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:01:10Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't there like pre-prepared questions that they had to stick to?

• 1:01:14Speaker 01

  Number one, there were pre-pre-pre-prepared questions. Number two, Burger King does suck. Number three.

• 1:01:20Joe Rogan?

  I liked them when I was a kid.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  They fell off. Wendy's fell off. It was all great.

• 1:01:25Joe Rogan?

  Wendy's fell off since when?

• 1:01:26Speaker 01

  Wendy's has fallen off so hard. In the 90s, it was one of the best restaurants in the country.

• 1:01:29Joe Rogan?

  But don't they still use fresh, not frozen? Or is that bullshit now?

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  You know, everybody's full of shit. I don't know. It's not good. It's not the same.

• 1:01:36Joe Rogan?

  I always thought they were the best.

• 1:01:38Speaker 01

  They were the best. In the 90s and the early 2000s. They were the best.

• 1:01:43Joe Rogan?

  When I was coming home from the Comedy Store, if I was a naughty boy and I wanted to get some food. And I was like, I'm gonna get something. I'm so hungry.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:50Joe Rogan?

  That was the move. If there was a Wendy's and a McDonald's, there's no question, I'm going to Wendy's.

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  I think when you start with the pre-programmed questions and it it becomes.

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  It's a, it's not an interview. It becomes, because we all know there's interviews, there's good ones, there's bad ones, there's things you wish you'd asked to go, "Oh, I should have, blah, blah, blah."

• 1:02:08Joe Rogan?

  It's a bit of a circus.

• 1:02:09Speaker 01

  It's a circus.

• 1:02:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. By the way.

• 1:02:12Speaker 01

  And it's a staged publicity op.

• 1:02:14Joe Rogan?

  I would have done pre-programmed questions with Kamala. If they, if they had questions, I'm not, I don't have a problem with those, as long as you give me the per- so she's willing to-

• 1:02:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll send you the questions.

• 1:02:26Joe Rogan?

  So these are the que- as long as it's pertinent, like, these are the questions?

• 1:02:30Speaker 01

  You could have given her thirty pre-programmed questions and two months to prepare, and it would have been a mess.

• 1:02:35Joe Rogan?

  That's my thought.

• 1:02:36Speaker 01

  It would have been a train wreck either way.

• 1:02:37Joe Rogan?

  It'd have been a lot of fun.

• 1:02:39Speaker 01

  This kid from Subway Takes or whatever, New York City, this guy who does these Subway interviews, just said, "We didn't put out the Kamala Harris one, it was so bad."

• 1:02:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I heard about that.

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  Literally just come out and said, "We didn't want to tank her chances, it was terrible, she had this weird answer that made no sense, and we didn't put it out."

• 1:02:56Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  This is-

• 1:02:58Joe Rogan?

  Who is that guy?

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  It's some guy. I don't know, some guy on the seat does a Subway thing? Maybe I'm not saying the right, maybe it's not Subway Takes? I think it is. I think I'm right.

• 1:03:08Joe Rogan?

  Here it is. "Creative Subway Takes, 100% disagrees. The entertainer Kareem Rama discusses Kamala Harris's missed opportunity on his show, meeting Andrew Cuomo, and why disagreement is more fun." What does that mean? Uh, TikTok version of The Tonight Show, wholesome, relatable comedy, even if some episodes acknowledge the existence of opioids and dick pics. The premise is exactly what it sounds like. The host, Kareem Rama, I don't know if I'm saying his name right, Rama, uh, sits on a New York subway and asks, "So, what's your take?" The guest slings a take, the internet rocks, for example. This is dumb. We're not gonna get to the answer, it's blocked off with the thing. Oh, okay.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  The whole thing is, she went on the show, he asked her something, she said something wild. Her team and him decided, "This is not good."

• 1:03:55Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't it like bacon is a spice? Wasn't that one of them? Is that the same guy?

• 1:03:58Speaker 01

  She's a psychopath.

• 1:03:59Joe Rogan?

  A fresh proof that America dodged Kamala's bullet besides her kid gloves treatment- Oh, they released some of it?

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:04:04Joe Rogan?

  Okay, let's click, click on that. I think it's him talking about it.

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  I think it's him talking about it. I don't think they've ever released it.

• 1:04:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, let me hear that. Let me hear him say that.

• 1:04:17Speaker 03

  Her take was really confusing and weird and not good. And so mutually agreed that we shouldn't publish it.

• 1:04:24Joe Rogan?

  Kamala Harris. Whoa.

• 1:04:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Odd.

• 1:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Confusing and weird. Do you think she's medicated?

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  I think she throws them back.

• 1:04:35Joe Rogan?

  But is it just that?

• 1:04:36Speaker 01

  No, she's got a couple of pills.

• 1:04:38Joe Rogan?

  Because I have a feeling there's an anti-anxiety element.

• 1:04:39Speaker 01

  No, she's got a couple of Xanny bars down at Danielle Gullett.

• 1:04:43Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so it is, she repeatedly said she'd talk about how she doesn't like to take her shoes off on airplanes. Okay, but Rama said that she instead pivoted to a really, really bad take that made no sense. Bacon is a spice.

• 1:05:00Speaker 01

  That's one of the more coherent things I've heard her say, by the way.

• 1:05:03Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:05:04Speaker 01

  It's actually better than most of her.

• 1:05:06Joe Rogan?

  Whether that was actually her idea or the advice of overpaid consultants, this is another thing. That campaign was a set, it had the elements, all the elements. If I was a, an investigator, that campaign had all the elements of money laundering.

• 1:05:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05:25Joe Rogan?

  You blew 1.5 billion dollars over the course of a few months. And so much of it went to NGOs.

• 1:05:36Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:05:37Joe Rogan?

  Right? So much of it went to these weird nonprofits that were supposedly going to help your campaign. And, well, who's at those NGO, this is like the LA Fire Fund.

• 1:05:49Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:05:49Joe Rogan?

  Right? It's like, okay, you gave the money to 188 different nonprofits.

• 1:05:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05:55Joe Rogan?

  That all have overhead and like, what about the people that lost the house?

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:06:00Joe Rogan?

  Isn't there like one guy who could just start cutting checks?

• 1:06:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:06:03Joe Rogan?

  You've got 800 million dollars or whatever you got.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  You're paying the salaries of people that work at an organization.

• 1:06:09Joe Rogan?

  Which is kind of a money laundering operation.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:06:12Joe Rogan?

  Especially when you find out that some of these people make upwards of a million dollars a year.

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  Well, what they're gonna do with this LA Fires land is still up in the air, but they had proposed zoning the Palisades for low-income housing. And people threw a big fit. And I think that they have backed off on that, I'm unsure. But I think Newsom is backing off on that because he is now positioning himself to be the Democratic presidential nominee. He's always been. But now he's really doing it. And to his credit, he's having success. Like, in this moment.

• 1:06:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, some of the success that they're hanging their hat on is his social media campaign where he talks like Trump. So he's got a bunch of people from his organization that tweet for him.

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:06:55Joe Rogan?

  And they tweet like Trump, and they're saying, "This has elevated him in the public's eye."

• 1:07:00Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:07:01Joe Rogan?

  That's fucking terrifying.

• 1:07:02Speaker 01

  It's terrifying. He's, he's starting to learn the internet, um, you know, you know, sensibility. Which is heavily, uh, trolling does very well.

• 1:07:19Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 1:07:19Speaker 01

  You know, all this stuff. What he has is a terrible record in California.

• 1:07:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:23Speaker 01

  And he's done terrible things to people's real lives.

• 1:07:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  But he's succeeding on the internet. So...

• 1:07:30Joe Rogan?

  That's enough.

• 1:07:31Speaker 01

  That's enough.

• 1:07:32Joe Rogan?

  That's the thing.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  But that's truly enough. You don't have to be perfect. He's having fun on the internet.

• 1:07:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  And the state is burned.

• 1:07:41Speaker 01

  And people forget, because that was a few months ago, and people have short memories. They go, "That tweet was fun." He did a post on X that was fun, and it doesn't matter that they let all the criminals out in California and burn everyone's house.

• 1:07:53Joe Rogan?

  You know? Yeah. It's, uh, that's how bad the Democratic Party is right now.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  And he's not even the worst of them. He's bad. But the, the people go so much further than him. The problem with Gavin Newsom is that he's kind of an empty suit, who is in the wind will go whichever way.

• 1:08:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:15Speaker 01

  So, in a, in a, in a time like 2020, when everybody is incredibly, like, in the grips of mania, and they're like, "Riding's good. Riding's protesting."

• 1:08:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Defund the police.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  "Defund the police. Let's get rid of cops." Gavin Newsom goes, puts out a bunch of crazy social media posts about, like, the importance of resistance and all this crap, and throws his own police force under the bus.

• 1:08:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  It's insane. But then when things, the pendulum swings back the other way, Gavin Newsom now becomes a sensible conservative that wants to, or a sensible Democrat that wants to reach out to conservatives. And, you know, he's like the hollow man.

• 1:09:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:01Speaker 01

  He just wants to win. And that might be enough.

• 1:09:04Joe Rogan?

  It might be enough. Well, you know... There's not a lot of other options.

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:09:09Joe Rogan?

  This is the thing, like, we're, we are now entering into 2026, okay? So, we only have four years, from 2024 to 2028. It's really only two years, you know? Because it's, everybody has to get accustomed to these people. They have to be in the public eye. It's not like someone's gonna run for president within the last six months and they're gonna win.

• 1:09:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:09:33Joe Rogan?

  You need someone who's out there for a minimum of 24 months.

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:09:38Joe Rogan?

  So, who else?

• 1:09:40Speaker 01

  There's going-

• 1:09:40Joe Rogan?

  We're in 2026, right? So, we have two years left. So, who?

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's him. It's Gavin.

• 1:09:46Joe Rogan?

  It has to be.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  Now, on the right, there's going to be a power struggle. And either Trump will live through his term, let's hope he does. But he's 80, so you never know. But he's healthy enough, right now.

• 1:09:58Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly healthy enough.

• 1:09:59Speaker 01

  Allegedly healthy enough.

• 1:10:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:01Speaker 01

  If he lives through his term and he nites somebody, whether it's JD or whoever, that will be the person. There is a world in which he doesn't knight anyone. And there is a real power struggle between different factions of that party.

• 1:10:18Joe Rogan?

  Well, who, what are the factions? So, you have JD-

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  You have JD.

• 1:10:22Joe Rogan?

  Vice President, who's the obvious.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  The obvious.

• 1:10:25Joe Rogan?

  And then, the problem with Ron DeSantis is, he wore stilts.

• 1:10:30Speaker 01

  Ron DeSantis has a cop energy. He has a guy that pulled you over energy, and you go, was it really 85? He's a prick. No one likes him, everyone, he offends everyone. I knew a bunch of, I, I know a friend who's in finance, a bunch of hedge fund guys went down to Florida. This was in, like, the throes of the campaign. He ended up insulting all of them. He's dismissive of people. He doesn't have it.

• 1:10:52Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:10:53Speaker 01

  The question is Vance, who's smart, does Vance have it? There's doubts, real doubts, that if he has it or not. I like him as a guy, there's doubts. I'm not saying he doesn't have it.

• 1:11:06Joe Rogan?

  What are the doubts?

• 1:11:08Speaker 01

  That he doesn't have it. He doesn't have the charisma, he's stiff as a board, he's a klutz, he dropped a trophy, he's not articulate enough. He doesn't, he doesn't have it.

• 1:11:16Joe Rogan?

  Still young.

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  Sure, but I'm saying these are the doubts. He's young, he doesn't have the gravitas.

• 1:11:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:11:22Speaker 01

  The wife's maybe not super into it. I don't know!

• 1:11:25Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:11:26Speaker 01

  These are the doubts.

• 1:11:27Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  These are the doubts you gotta overcome if you, if you wanna win.

• 1:11:30Joe Rogan?

  All right, if not him, who else is it?

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  MTG.

• 1:11:34Joe Rogan?

  For real?

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  For realsies. Heard it here first. Get on the train now.

• 1:11:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you're serious?

• 1:11:40Speaker 01

  Get on the train now. I might be involved. Get on the train now. Buy the stock now. Buy the crypto now. Buy the Ethereum now. We're launching a coin soon.

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  The coin is crazy. Step one is the coin. Step two is the announcement. Step three is the campaign. Step four is her running the country, which I don't think is super important. But the first three are important. Coin launch, hugely important.

• 1:12:11Joe Rogan?

  You gotta get in the first couple of days and then get out within the first couple of days.

• 1:12:14Speaker 01

  MTG. Whether... Whether it's her or not. She's surprisingly weirdly capable. She's kind of a tough bitch. She's ran a construction company, all this stuff. She's gonna be able to go out there and say, "America first, not Israel first." And Vance might wear... There's not enough daylight between him and Trump on Israel. MTG's gonna take advantage of that. That's my guess. Get on the train. But maybe I'm wrong. But am I?

• 1:12:49Joe Rogan?

  Has she voiced any...

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  She hasn't voiced it yet, but let's be honest, she's positioning herself. You can see it. She's positioning herself to run for president of the United States.

• 1:13:04Joe Rogan?

  What is the wackiest shit that she's ever said?

• 1:13:06Speaker 01

  I don't know. Something about the Jews and the weather, but let's be honest, who knows what they're doing?

• 1:13:16Speaker 01

  These hurricanes come and go? What's going on?

• 1:13:19Joe Rogan?

  MTG threatens to say every damn name on the House floor over Jeffrey Epstein clients two hours ago.

• 1:13:25Speaker 01

  This is fun. She get... Part of being the president now is spectacle. She gets it. She sees Trump, she goes, "He put on a goddamn show." She's putting on a fucking show and a half.

• 1:13:34Joe Rogan?

  Also, if you're a woman, there's an advantage that you have in that you are not fucking underage people.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  No, and she's single.

• 1:13:42Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:13:43Speaker 04

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• 1:15:31Speaker 01

  She's a single woman. She's not, meaning that you, she's not, she doesn't have a husband who works for BlackRock. You know what I mean?

• 1:15:39Joe Rogan?

  She's a Lenny Kravitz song.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  Now, why is AOC shutting her mouth about Israel? Because AOC's donors are big Israeli tech people. She's been silenced, and she's trying to run for president, too.

• 1:15:51Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:15:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  She'll struggle. She's not gonna win. She's a goofball. She'll be making mojitos. She's a goofball. She doesn't have it. She's a goof. But here's the reality. She's shutting her mouth about Israel. Is AOC out there about Israel? No. No, because she's a fraud. But the smelly, uh, gross anarcho-communist in Brooklyn, to their credit, know she's a fraud.

• 1:16:20Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  They know she's a fraud. In between their, you know, whatever, open-mic nights and whatever, they figured out-

• 1:16:28Joe Rogan?

  Poetry slams?

• 1:16:29Speaker 01

  Poetry slams and dog walking, they figured out that this bitch is a fraud. Big time.

• 1:16:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't think she was when she first started.

• 1:16:37Speaker 01

  She wasn't, but she got, she was probably... She's realized she has, she's ambitious.

• 1:16:43Joe Rogan?

  She likes nice bags.

• 1:16:44Speaker 01

  She likes nice bags.

• 1:16:45Joe Rogan?

  That's what it is.

• 1:16:45Speaker 01

  She's ambitious. She wants to be the president.

• 1:16:47Joe Rogan?

  You realize that job can get you hundreds of millions of dollars. Look what happened to-

• 1:16:51Speaker 01

  Can you get up who her donors are, Jimmy? These Israeli tech people? It's kind of interesting because this actually just kind of came out.

• 1:16:58Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  You know, this, this, this... This is coming out more and more. MTG is one of these people that have... Now, she's said some wild stuff. She wasn't media-trained. Okay? She came out. She made some unfortunate statements about, um, Jewish people and the weather, perhaps. You know?

• 1:17:18Joe Rogan?

  Did she do... I want to know what she said.

• 1:17:20Speaker 01

  She said something about Jewish space lasers. But Joe, why do the hurricanes always hit the west coast of Florida? That's where all... They never hit the east coast? They don't hit Boca?

• 1:17:31Joe Rogan?

  The water is warmer or something?

• 1:17:33Speaker 01

  So say you. The point is... Whatever. But is it... Or the laser?

• 1:17:38Joe Rogan?

  The hurricanes never hit the east coast? Is that true?

• 1:17:41Speaker 01

  Yes, they hit the west coast, which is where all the Christians live from the Midwest in Canada. All the Jewish people on the east coast don't get hurricanes. They get a little bit of flooding. And when Marjorie wins, we're gonna get to the bottom of it.

• 1:17:53Joe Rogan?

  So if you want to buy property, buy it on the east coast of Florida?

• 1:17:56Speaker 01

  That's what they're saying.

• 1:17:57Joe Rogan?

  Is that like Mar-a-Lago? Is that the east coast?

• 1:17:59Speaker 01

  Correct. Ding ding.

• 1:18:02Joe Rogan?

  Really? Okay, what does she say? "Marjorie Taylor Greene has offered an amendment to the Israel funding bill to create space lasers." This is not a parody.

• 1:18:13Joe Rogan?

  MTG literally wants to appropriate money for a Jewish space laser. But what does that mean? She wants to fund space lasers?

• 1:18:23Speaker 01

  I thought she was against it, but now maybe she's for them.

• 1:18:25Joe Rogan?

  In 2018, it was back then. It was different times.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  It was different times.

• 1:18:29Joe Rogan?

  She wanted the space laser.

• 1:18:31Speaker 01

  She was asking questions.

• 1:18:32Joe Rogan?

  2024, it says it.

• 1:18:33Speaker 01

  Now she wants to. Because.

• 1:18:36Joe Rogan?

  Look at her face.

• 1:18:37Speaker 01

  Why should they?

• 1:18:38Joe Rogan?

  Right. Oh, Joy Reid's talking about it, which makes it real.

• 1:18:41Speaker 01

  Why should they have space lasers? We should all have them.

• 1:18:42Joe Rogan?

  Joy Reid probably believes space lasers are racist.

• 1:18:45Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:18:45Joe Rogan?

  Um, a 2018 post she made theorizing in quotes that Jewish space lasers started wildfires in California.

• 1:18:55Joe Rogan?

  Now she's saying the United States deserves this type of defense for our southern border. Okay, I don't think Jewish space lasers did that, but there was a real concern with the wildfires of Ontario.

• 1:19:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:19:09Joe Rogan?

  That so many of them started simultaneously over a large distance. That it is almost impossible that this was not some sort of a concerted effort to start this fire. And then there was the question, were they experimenting with some sort of space or satellite based energy weapon? I don't even know if it got away with it, because it's conveniently in the middle of the woods.

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  What about these floods in Texas? With the cloud seeding?

• 1:19:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:38Speaker 01

  This is a problem.

• 1:19:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, they were cloud seeding just a few days before that.

• 1:19:44Speaker 01

  That's a problem.

• 1:19:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:46Speaker 01

  That's a problem.

• 1:19:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's also the problem that happened in Abu Dhabi, or no Dubai.

• 1:19:50Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:19:51Joe Rogan?

  In Dubai, which where they openly admit that this is a cloud.

• 1:19:54Speaker 01

  They're manipulating the weather. All these people are manipulating the weather.

• 1:19:57Joe Rogan?

  Where you're going in Abu Dhabi, they do it once a week. Hopefully you'll get there on a rainy day.

• 1:20:01Speaker 01

  Well, I, well, we'll see.

• 1:20:04Joe Rogan?

  They do it every week.

• 1:20:05Speaker 01

  They manipulate the weather every week?

• 1:20:07Joe Rogan?

  Every week.

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  Well, good.

• 1:20:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's how you keep everything green, Tim.

• 1:20:12Speaker 01

  I, my concern is like my own country and any country that wants to offer me a large sum of money to go and perform. I will do it.

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  Coming soon to the Congo. Yeah, I will absolutely do South Sudan, Darfur, Angola, all of it. I'll absolutely do South Sudan. Tim Dillon live in South Sudan. Absolutely will do it. Yo. Wouldn't you go to Saudi Arabia? I'm busy. Yeah, but, but- I have to stay here. You're do- I have a lot to do. You're also doing well enough.

• 1:20:46Joe Rogan?

  Two Israeli startup entrepreneurs played roles in the rise of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She pulled out of an event commemorating Rabin. Some concluded that AOC doesn't like Israelis, but two were instrumental in the lawmaker's early career. That's where it gets weird. They find you when you're young.

• 1:21:04Speaker 01

  They find you when you're making mojitos.

• 1:21:06Joe Rogan?

  They find you when you're young and promising, like JD.

• 1:21:11Speaker 01

  Well, that's the thing. JD's gonna have to, if he wants to be the president, he's gonna have to say, Peter Thiel, I'm not-

• 1:21:15Joe Rogan?

  Is the Antichrist.

• 1:21:16Speaker 01

  He's gonna have to say, Peter Thiel is Satan, and here's why that's good.

• 1:21:23Speaker 01

  JD has to get out there and go, wouldn't you rather know who Satan is and be friends with him and have dinner with him than have it be like, who's Satan? Right. So he's gotta get out there and say, I happen to be friends with Satan. And I want that to be- He's misunderstood. I want it to be de-stigmatized. Right. If Satan could go on the Nelk Boys, maybe they could straighten it out. That's right. Peter Thiel on the Nelk Boys, when they go, what do you think about fast food? And he goes, I only, I take one pill every day to survive. And it gives me all of my nutrients. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Peter Thiel eats food like a person. I think it's like he has some type of- What? You know. What do you think? I think a lot of these tech people like, they don't like food. They're not food people, a lot of these tech people. I went to a few of these tech things in Austin.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  It's not, the food's never the thing. They're, they're not like food people. They're not like, ooh, let me eat food. Like wasps are not either. Like real old school, like waspy. Didn't you get invited to have lunch or something, dinner with Peter? Yes, I said no.

• 1:22:22Joe Rogan?

  Did you?

• 1:22:23Speaker 01

  I said no. I'm a little wary of that circle of people.

• 1:22:28Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:22:28Speaker 01

  And I'm not saying there's anything inherently evil about them because obviously there's people in there. I just, I don't know that I want to go to a dinner with someone who's gonna talk endlessly about the Antichrist.

• 1:22:41Joe Rogan?

  But yet you'll go to Saudi Arabia.

• 1:22:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:22:43Joe Rogan?

  And perform.

• 1:22:44Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:22:44Joe Rogan?

  I've been to Peter's house twice.

• 1:22:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:46Joe Rogan?

  I went once with dinner with Eric Weinstein, I forget who else. And then the second time he brought me in because they were gonna have lunch with Eric Von Daniken.

• 1:22:55Speaker 01

  Oh, the guy, the chariot to the gods?

• 1:22:57Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:22:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:22:58Joe Rogan?

  And I was like, oh yeah, I'm in. And I know so much about that. So I was asking him all these questions.

• 1:23:04Speaker 01

  I'm sure he's a very nice guy, like Peter Thiel.

• 1:23:07Joe Rogan?

  He's a nice guy.

• 1:23:08Speaker 01

  People that know him go, he's a nice guy. He's a smart guy.

• 1:23:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:10Speaker 01

  I don't, again, I get invited to a lot of dinners and a lot of things. And what I try to do is I try to say to myself, I need to be able to criticize people and make fun of them.

• 1:23:20Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:23:20Speaker 01

  So, you know, it felt like really weird to go to this guy's house and then shit on him the next day.

• 1:23:25Joe Rogan?

  Do you think that's part of the strategy of inviting you to go to places?

• 1:23:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:23:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  Most likely. But it doesn't work. Cause I can't shut my mouth. I can't shut my mouth. So, I mean, I've said things, people in my own family get mad at me because I can't shut my mouth.

• 1:23:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:38Speaker 01

  So it's certainly not gonna work. If you're a billionaire invites me somewhere, it's not gonna work. So then you're probably gonna have to kill me and I'd rather you not.

• 1:23:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  Please.

• 1:23:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:49Speaker 01

  That's the thing.

• 1:23:50Joe Rogan?

  I see what you're saying. Well, you just, you can't get too close.

• 1:23:54Speaker 01

  I don't want to get super close, only because like, to me, it's like, I like my show because I can talk shit and say things. And I just can't, I don't want to censor myself and I don't know how to censor myself. And I wouldn't be fun or good.

• 1:24:05Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:24:06Speaker 01

  At what I do if I censored myself. And I think that like, you know,

• 1:24:12Speaker 01

  a lot of people out there in the world are under the impression that they can Everyone has an agenda and that's completely understandable. And I think what they try to do is sometimes launder that agenda through some cultural space. However, they want to do it, you know? Yeah. And that's happened forever. It's not new, it's not unique because there's an internet. A thousand percent. There's people that want the world to look a certain way. But they don't come out and tell you exactly how they want it to look. Right. They figure out a way to kind of like, let's filter this.

• 1:24:56Speaker 01

  So I, I, I, I'm trying to, I, when I, when I look at that and I go, because I think it was a very nice dinner. I think what he wants, like, I'm sure it was like a lovely, like, he goes, I want to talk about the media. And you're like a comedian, but you're in the media and like, you know, he has a bunch of people to his house, there's probably smart people that go. Yeah, he likes to have these- And they talk about the media. Big thought, like, think tank conversations. Yeah, and, and I just felt like I, that didn't appeal to me. Well, that's why you had Von Daniken over for lunch, right? So it's not all evil. It's like, what is this about? The thing is, it's a lot, you know, when people, what would really shock people in America is how much a lot of the super elites are not,

• 1:25:41Speaker 01

  it's not like it's all an, and I'm sure some of it is, some club they're all in. But it's not like they're all lizards or it's an ancient blood cult. A lot of it is like, they will feed you and your family into a maultro so they can live two blocks closer to the beach. It's just that things have always been good and they want them to stay good. So, somebody told me once, it's, it, it, it's the highest levels of society perpetuating themselves. And just staying at the top of the food chain. Right. And 90% of them have no idea what's going on and they're just rich. And they just woke up rich and things are good. And they, they can ski in Aspen or they can go to that wherever, Hamptons or Beverly Hills or whatever, or here, the beautiful areas here. And then 10% of those people are earning the money.

• 1:26:22Speaker 01

  They're the, the scions of the dynasties, or they're the CEOs, or they're the hedge fund managers, or the private equity people. And then 1 or 2% of those people are truly nefarious. Those are the people who are fun. And I mean, you know, those are the people who are, you know, those are the guys who are in that, whatever that smoke-filled room is.

• 1:26:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, the also thing, to get to the top of that kind of a business, you have to be a bit of a sociopath.

• 1:26:47Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 1:26:48Joe Rogan?

  Right. And you have to be kind of calculated. This is where it's fascinating, like, what Bill Gates has done in his career, where he's pivoted to become this guy who's, like, really concentrated on global health.

• 1:26:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:26:59Joe Rogan?

  You know, and philanthropy.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:27:00Joe Rogan?

  All of his time is now spent on philanthropy.

• 1:27:03Speaker 01

  Yes, well, it's a great way to launder money.

• 1:27:05Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:27:05Speaker 01

  That's huge. It's a great way to launder money.

• 1:27:08Joe Rogan?

  It's also a great way to launder your image.

• 1:27:10Speaker 01

  A great way to launder your image.

• 1:27:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, I remember him in the 90s, where everybody was mad at him. He was the antitrust guy. He was, everybody, he was constantly in court about that.

• 1:27:20Speaker 01

  Well, that's why he went to Epstein's Island, because he was doing an ecological survey. Of the area. He wanted to, he was studying beach erosion.

• 1:27:32Speaker 01

  But this is the thing, throughout history, these people have never been caught red-handed. Now they're kind of getting caught red-handed, and now they're employing every means at their disposal to keep a lot of this stuff quiet. Not only that, I think, my personal theory, is that someone took a lot of these people in a room 20 years ago and went, "Listen, as soon as AI is out of the bottle, you got five or 10 years before the world's wild. Build your bunkers, steal the money, take whatever you can, get it off the government balance sheet, however you're gonna do it, because, let Detroit go, who gives a fuck? Don't give them healthcare, doesn't matter, don't fix the infrastructure, don't fix the

• 1:28:14Speaker 01

  schools, from when AI is out of the box, you have five, seven, 10 years, probably closer to 10, 15 years, before shit gets really fucking weird. So, get your money now, and it's gonna get...

• 1:28:30Joe Rogan?

  What do you think "get really weird" looks like?

• 1:28:33Speaker 01

  You know, just massive unemployment, civil unrest, you know, autonomous police forces, AI running large sectors of the government, which is weird shit. And then...

• 1:28:47Speaker 01

  That to me is probably one of the reasons that, and I'm not saying it was one big meeting, but I think they know, and now maybe it's a folly, like people like Andy Jacobson go, "The nukes start flying, everyone's dead, we don't care how many bunkers they have, whatever." Who knows, maybe it is a folly. That being said, we've got underground cities all over the country, the government's, you know, prepared, obviously, and has been for a while. All of these private citizens are now worth in the hundreds of billions, some of them, a lot of them are billionaires. They're trying to hedge their bets in whatever way they can. Teal's famously has this thing in New Zealand, or wants to be in New Zealand if things go haywire. That's where everybody wants to go, right? They all want to go to New Zealand. Why New Zealand? It's beautiful, it's an island, it's gorgeous.

• 1:29:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, but is it like some sort of a theory of how that survives some sort of apocalyptic? I don't know, I don't know. Small population, rich natural resources. All of that. Lot of food. All of that, and I think that like, so I mean, it feels like they're preparing for something. It doesn't feel paranoid to suggest that they know it's gonna get very weird. I mean, there's been people falling in love with chatbots. Oh yeah. It's gonna get odd. Well, then it's chatbots talking you into killing yourself. That's also happening. Teaching you how to make a better news. That's what's happening. So, you know, I mean, I think, I think there's, I don't, or, or, here's a real question, an interesting question. Are the elites in our country, and

• 1:30:17Speaker 01

  I, and I mean, you know, not just rich people, I mean, people that own companies that control large sectors of the economy, are they believing that 2050 is going to be?

• 1:30:37Speaker 01

  Will we still have the United States of America? That's a real interesting question, because all of these tech people talk like we won't.

• 1:30:46Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:30:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:47Joe Rogan?

  What do they say?

• 1:30:49Speaker 01

  Well, basically, they've talked about the need to, you know, one of the biggest startups during the pandemic was, you know, and Tiel was an investor in this, was let's go buy a plot of land somewhere in the world and run a country on crypto and make it like a libertarian paradise. It was called Praxis, and they did this. This was a big startup, but it got, you know, a good amount of funding because-

• 1:31:12Joe Rogan?

  Where'd they want to go?

• 1:31:13Speaker 01

  They were talking about like Madagascar, I think. They were talking about other places. But you're looking-

• 1:31:18Joe Rogan?

  I'm not aware of this.

• 1:31:19Speaker 01

  Oh, it was a real thing. I mean, it was-

• 1:31:21Joe Rogan?

  Did you hear about this?

• 1:31:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:31:22Joe Rogan?

  Jamie?

• 1:31:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was real. You look it up. I mean, it's there.

• 1:31:25Joe Rogan?

  So they were talking about using crypto and funding a new country?

• 1:31:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, they, they, they, I don't think the tech people want, um, yeah, I mean, and I met these kids. They were nice kids, but-

• 1:31:37Joe Rogan?

  Praxis states that it has 2,034 citizens, 124 companies. The companies founded by Praxis members have an aggregate valuation of 452 billion, although, which is good for the economy for about six weeks.

• 1:31:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:31:50Joe Rogan?

  Although, original Praxis plans include development in the Mediterranean, the company has explored Greenland as a site. Huh.

• 1:31:59Speaker 01

  They, the tech people don't, I think, I think they see the future of America as more feudalism than a representative democracy.

• 1:32:10Joe Rogan?

  Look at this, reclaim the West.

• 1:32:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:13Joe Rogan?

  The world's first digital nation. What?

• 1:32:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a real thing.

• 1:32:19Joe Rogan?

  So now it says 922 billion value of Praxis-founded companies. Now there's 103,000 Praxians.

• 1:32:29Joe Rogan?

  Look at this fucking, look at this bizarre construction on the side of a fucking cliff. So that when it all goes south, you could just leap to your death at any moment.

• 1:32:39Speaker 01

  But it's aesthetically pleasing.

• 1:32:40Joe Rogan?

  Or they could just chuck you off when your tweets don't align with their company's objectives.

• 1:32:45Speaker 01

  But this is, so this is one example of something that I think is, I think it's a little bit of the quiet part out loud. Where I, I, I think a lot of the tech people have given up on the idea of America as a nation state. Not all of them, but some of them.

• 1:33:01Joe Rogan?

  Atlas California proposes Atlas California, a defense-focused spaceport city on 3,850 acres in Vandenberg Space Force Base. Located on the California coast between Los Angeles and San Francisco, Vandenberg already hosts SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Relativity Space. Atlas will concentrate elite engineering talent with DOD assets to solve the defense challenges that will determine America's survival.

• 1:33:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:30Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:33:32Speaker 01

  It's another Manhattan project.

• 1:33:35Joe Rogan?

  Go, go to the image that's above the header. Look at this fucking image of this place.

• 1:33:41Speaker 01

  I think none of this is actually happening. I think it's more pretend per se, but I don't know.

• 1:33:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's just a couple of months ago, June 4th.

• 1:33:51Speaker 01

  They'd like it to happen.

• 1:33:52Joe Rogan?

  This is weird.

• 1:33:54Speaker 01

  But do you see what I mean?

• 1:33:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:56Speaker 01

  It doesn't feel like the main concern here is America.

• 1:34:01Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:34:02Speaker 01

  In any, in any recognizable way.

• 1:34:04Joe Rogan?

  It seems like they're preparing for the fall.

• 1:34:06Speaker 01

  That seems to be what it is.

• 1:34:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that seems like you're preparing for the fall of America.

• 1:34:12Speaker 01

  A thousand percent.

• 1:34:13Joe Rogan?

  And defend the West, on Earth and beyond.

• 1:34:19Speaker 01

  By the way, not defend America.

• 1:34:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:34:22Speaker 01

  Defend the West. So right, so right. Interesting.

• 1:34:27Joe Rogan?

  Look at this, this quote, "We built the arsenal of democracy, split the atom and reach the moon. Now we must build a city that wins this century." What?

• 1:34:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34:39Joe Rogan?

  Atlas is where America's engineers will develop the technologies that secure our future. Join us. This sounds like how they get you. This is the end. Make a cool video and I'm in. Yeah.

• 1:34:54Speaker 01

  No, I would, I would, I'm hoping after this, they offer me a tiny little plot to do a podcast, interview them about their work.

• 1:35:01Joe Rogan?

  Right, like a discovery property.

• 1:35:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:03Joe Rogan?

  So this idea is that when AI gets out of the box, as you say, the world's like filled with chaos, crime is rampant, it's madness, and then at that point, these guys wall themselves off, use all of their money and defend the West.

• 1:35:21Speaker 01

  That seems to be what it's like.

• 1:35:23Joe Rogan?

  Defending is a weird.

• 1:35:25Speaker 01

  Defending.

• 1:35:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a weird way of phrasing things because you're not saying, you know, we look to establish a beautiful, harmonious community that, you know.

• 1:35:37Speaker 01

  No, there is an element, I think, of.

• 1:35:41Joe Rogan?

  Defense.

• 1:35:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, and they're defending them.

• 1:35:44Joe Rogan?

  From an assault.

• 1:35:45Speaker 01

  From maybe the.

• 1:35:46Joe Rogan?

  Defend the West.

• 1:35:47Speaker 01

  But it's also like, maybe you're defending them from forces that are, uh.

• 1:35:52Joe Rogan?

  Aliens.

• 1:35:52Speaker 01

  Well, well, sure, but or they're domestic, they're Americans.

• 1:35:56Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:35:56Speaker 01

  It could also be, you know.

• 1:35:58Joe Rogan?

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• 1:37:48Speaker 01

  This is gonna all end up to just be like a line of skincare products.

• 1:37:52Joe Rogan?

  At the end. Like it's just gonna be like, fuck it. Brian Johnson's vitamins.

• 1:37:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's just Brian Johnson's vitamins and Chris Jenner's new head.

• 1:38:01Joe Rogan?

  The praxian way of life is driven by a vital energy that seeks transcendence through heroic action and contemplation. Our mission is to channel this drive into a cohesive way of life forged by social structures and institutions that guide our people toward their destiny. You just said nothing.

• 1:38:19Speaker 01

  It's nothing and it's, so what it is, is opting out. There's America and you're opting out.

• 1:38:24Joe Rogan?

  That looks like a mushroom.

• 1:38:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:26Joe Rogan?

  That's a mushroom cap. Are you guys doing shrooms? Cause now I'm in.

• 1:38:29Speaker 01

  Well, they're certainly doing shrooms.

• 1:38:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, now I'm in.

• 1:38:31Speaker 01

  They're certainly doing shrooms.

• 1:38:32Joe Rogan?

  I wanna go here.

• 1:38:33Speaker 01

  I'm not saying this is-

• 1:38:34Joe Rogan?

  I don't think I have enough money.

• 1:38:34Speaker 01

  I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying this is kinda, and they're not gonna be the only ones.

• 1:38:38Joe Rogan?

  I need to up my game.

• 1:38:39Speaker 01

  They're not gonna be the only ones.

• 1:38:40Joe Rogan?

  I need to get in on this club, cause I wanna defend freedom or whatever.

• 1:38:43Speaker 01

  The West.

• 1:38:44Joe Rogan?

  I wanna defend the rest. Continue, you can join the Discord, they have a Discord server.

• 1:38:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:48Joe Rogan?

  Our primary centers-

• 1:38:49Speaker 01

  Join the nation, take the pledge and build the future of the West.

• 1:38:52Joe Rogan?

  Our work primarily centers around developing culture and institutions that promote the praxian way of life. Boy, this is creepy. Because increase our econ, oh, increase our economic-

• 1:39:02Speaker 01

  Teal was a big, he befunded us. Part of the funding. Fun.

• 1:39:06Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense.

• 1:39:07Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:39:07Joe Rogan?

  If you're gonna, you know.

• 1:39:08Speaker 01

  If you're the Antichrist, you wanna at least have a little bit of a say in what goes on here.

• 1:39:12Joe Rogan?

  Could you imagine if they really do know something? And like, the Antichrist is a real thing? Like, imagine if like you get to the like, the highest levels of these meetings and they say, "Look, all this biblical stuff is actually based on reality."

• 1:39:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:27Joe Rogan?

  And there's something coming and it will be like revelations in the Bible. There's gonna be something that goes down.

• 1:39:32Speaker 01

  It could very possibly happen. It is interesting to think about the Antichrist and then this all-powerful dark figure, again, not more powerful than God, but like, a problem, like a real problem.

• 1:39:44Joe Rogan?

  A real problem.

• 1:39:44Speaker 01

  And then that person has to have lunch with J.D. Vance. That's like an odd.

• 1:39:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, if human beings.

• 1:39:51Speaker 01

  You don't picture that, but.

• 1:39:52Joe Rogan?

  If you think about religion as being something that serves human beings.

• 1:39:55Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:39:55Joe Rogan?

  And God wants human beings to, like, what would be the Antichrist? What would be AI? Wouldn't it be?

• 1:40:02Speaker 01

  Well, I think that's, I think when you get into living forever and playing God and doing all this stuff, you get into a very dark area of human beings having the capacity of God. All these tech people who've now become super-Christian, which seems to be affront, because they know how to sell what they're trying to do to America that way.

• 1:40:19Joe Rogan?

  Like, how many of them are becoming super- is Teal?

• 1:40:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course. Everyone, the whole.

• 1:40:23Joe Rogan?

  How does he reconcile that with the gay stuff?

• 1:40:26Speaker 01

  I don't know how anyone reconciles anything with anything, but like, he's, I, I think he's, I don't know, but they, they've realized they have to sell the AI stuff and the eventual augmenting of the biology, all of that to Americans. And there'll probably be, a lot of the objections to that will probably be religious. Or rooted in religion. People going, "I don't wanna be a..." But if you can somehow launder it and go, "No, no, no, God likes and wants you to have the autonomous drone."

• 1:41:03Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:41:04Speaker 01

  You have to position yourself.

• 1:41:06Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 1:41:06Speaker 01

  I don't know. I'm sure he can reconcile the gay stuff with the way, there's tons of gay Christians. I'm sure he's, he's a very smart guy. He'll be able to figure it out.

• 1:41:16Joe Rogan?

  That's an interesting strategy.

• 1:41:18Speaker 01

  Well, that's the strategy.

• 1:41:19Joe Rogan?

  That does make sense, though, as a strategy, that that's how you would approach things.

• 1:41:23Speaker 01

  You would have to.

• 1:41:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:24Speaker 01

  You would have to. You'd have to go out and say, The good news is, God wants you to have all of these things. Right. Which isn't Christianity, it's some other, they've concocted something else. Mm-hmm. You know, if you're augmenting your biology to live forever, or to live a lot longer, and you are seeding clouds and doing all of this stuff, you know, then you are, you are playing God. Yeah. You are doing it. I'm, I'm blown away. And there's an argument that science is, is, you should do some of these things, whatever. You can make that argument. But that's not inherently a, a Christian argument. Right. Yeah.

• 1:42:09Speaker 01

  Well, I think the real argument is that it, it's not just that you can do these things, but it's an imperative. Right. And the, the reason being is that we're in competition with China. What did you say? You said you were blown away by something? Oh, this praxian shit. Well, it's, this is, yeah. I had no idea that this was even a thing. We've never, how, we've never discussed this before, have we ever? I don't think so. But this was a big thing during the pandemic. I don't know the, the reality of any of it. Here's what I think, here's what it, it is emblematic of. The rich opted out of America a while ago, the super rich, meaning like, they let many American cities crumble. They allowed the infrastructure of the country to rot.

• 1:42:52Speaker 01

  They carved out places within the country that they were going to, you know, secure, and those places are safe, and those places are beautiful, and those places have pretty good economies. And they let the rest of it, you know, the Rust Belt, and the Sun Belt, you know, a lot of the areas that were deindustrialized, they let a lot of that go. What's the next culmination of that? Hmm. The next culmination of that, they're already kind of in a separate country. So, this is just the leveling up of that with tech, crypto.

• 1:43:35Speaker 01

  You're off the dollar system, you're in your own thing, or you're doing a digital currency system, you know, that seems to be the next phase.

• 1:43:46Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. Well, I think the next phase is allow the same thing that happened to Detroit to happen to the entire country.

• 1:43:52Speaker 01

  That seems to be correct, yes.

• 1:43:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because that seems like there's an inevitability of automation and of the the jobs that AI is gonna take away, except for venture capitalism. Mark Andreessen's fine, but everybody, we're fucked. They're gonna, they're gonna have-

• 1:44:09Speaker 01

  Not us.

• 1:44:10Joe Rogan?

  AI comedians.

• 1:44:10Speaker 01

  We'll have to interview Mark Andreessen.

• 1:44:12Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 1:44:13Speaker 01

  Every day.

• 1:44:13Joe Rogan?

  Every day.

• 1:44:14Speaker 01

  Which I've tried, he doesn't come on, but-

• 1:44:16Joe Rogan?

  He didn't come on your show?

• 1:44:17Speaker 01

  He wouldn't know.

• 1:44:17Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:44:18Speaker 01

  But he's a nice guy. I, listen, here's the thing-

• 1:44:20Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. He's been on my show a few times.

• 1:44:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you have a bigger, you have a bigger show, actually, statistically.

• 1:44:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh, interesting. You have a big show, though.

• 1:44:27Speaker 01

  It's a very big show, and we would treat-

• 1:44:30Joe Rogan?

  Congratulations on that.

• 1:44:31Speaker 01

  We would treat, thank you very much, and I'd like to thank Marc Maron for building it with me.

• 1:44:36Speaker 01

  And being so generous with his fanbase, with me. But the, um, yeah, it seems like they're going to, it seems like they're going to, you know, say, "America was fun, we had a good run."

• 1:44:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:50Speaker 01

  But it seems inevitable that the standard of living is going to fall. Now, a lot of people, like Elon, who's a smart guy, and I don't agree with him on everything, but he says things like, "It's gonna be good, and the standard of living's gonna rise with AI." I hope that's the case, but there's gonna be a lot of people out of work, and I don't quite know how people's standard of living is going to increase.

• 1:45:19Speaker 01

  I guess we're gonna have some UBI that's enough or whatever, but it just feels to me like we're heading towards something that has the potential, maybe it won't be, I'm not gonna be a doomsayer, it has the potential to be incredibly disruptive, it will be incredibly disruptive. Now, for the good or the bad, I don't know, but it does seem like people are preparing for the inevitability of a large war. France just said, get your hos- get hospitals ready for war by 2026.

• 1:45:50Joe Rogan?

  France just said that?

• 1:45:51Speaker 01

  France just said that.

• 1:45:52Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:45:53Speaker 01

  He came out, Macron just came out and said, get the hospitals ready for 2026, because that's when Brigitte's transitioning back to a man.

• 1:46:06Speaker 01

  But also have...

• 1:46:09Joe Rogan?

  France orders hospital to be ready for war in six months' time.

• 1:46:12Speaker 01

  Can some- what is this goon still doing, this Zelensky goon? What a goon this person is.

• 1:46:20Joe Rogan?

  The directive revealed in a letter to regional health agencies anticipates 10,000 to 50,000 men in hospital over a period- maybe this is why they let everybody into the country.

• 1:46:29Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:46:30Joe Rogan?

  Health Minister Catherine Vautrine, is that it? Vautrine?

• 1:46:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:35Joe Rogan?

  Confirmed the preparations, saying that they're a normal part of anticipating crises in the current international context. Again, what the fuck are you saying? The letter dated 18 July suggests that France could serve as a rear base for a large-scale conflict, and mentions setting up medical centers near transport hubs.

• 1:46:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:46:57Joe Rogan?

  Follows the distribution of a survival manual to French households and President Emmanuel Macron's plan to double France's defense spending by 2027. How did that guy get to be the head of France? He, like, at this point, can he win an election?

• 1:47:14Speaker 01

  No, probably not.

• 1:47:15Joe Rogan?

  Now, everybody knows that he's married to a man who, not only a man, but a man who smacks him in the face.

• 1:47:20Speaker 01

  Allegedly.

• 1:47:21Joe Rogan?

  I saw the video.

• 1:47:22Speaker 01

  Well, the alleged, the alleged, alleged man.

• 1:47:25Joe Rogan?

  The alleged man.

• 1:47:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, whatever, that woman smacked him in the face.

• 1:47:29Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 1:47:29Joe Rogan?

  He's getting abused.

• 1:47:30Speaker 01

  She manhandled him.

• 1:47:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, manhandled him. Behind closed doors.

• 1:47:33Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:47:34Joe Rogan?

  She manspreads. You ever see her manspread?

• 1:47:36Speaker 01

  She mansplains.

• 1:47:37Joe Rogan?

  I don't know any women that sit down like that.

• 1:47:40Speaker 01

  There's something off there. She met, he was forty, she was fifteen or something. He was a kid in school.

• 1:47:44Joe Rogan?

  Real off.

• 1:47:45Speaker 01

  There's something really off.

• 1:47:46Joe Rogan?

  That alone.

• 1:47:47Speaker 01

  There's something very strange, very sinister, very bad.

• 1:47:50Joe Rogan?

  He was fourteen.

• 1:47:52Speaker 01

  And she was thirty-eight or something?

• 1:47:53Joe Rogan?

  Something like that. And then they started, when she was forty, I'll notice I say she.

• 1:47:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:59Joe Rogan?

  I'm a good boy.

• 1:48:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:48:00Joe Rogan?

  I'm following the rules.

• 1:48:01Speaker 01

  That's right. Well, there's lawsuits, which I mentioned in.

• 1:48:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, it was interesting watching Jake Tapper do that about the fucking shooter. The Catholic school shooter, like correcting the pronouns.

• 1:48:11Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:48:13Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:48:16Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:48:17Joe Rogan?

  It's bizarre. Bizarro land we're in right now. But, anyway, um, what, what is going on in France? Like, that that guy is your fucking leader. Like, that's so weird. And could, when I see things like that, it's terrifying, because is that possible that they could pull that off in America? When you go, well, they almost did with Kamala Harris.

• 1:48:38Speaker 01

  Well, I think they have, by the way, they have before with lots of people.

• 1:48:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:41Speaker 01

  And you don't know the personal lives of any of these people.

• 1:48:44Joe Rogan?

  You know what's really fun?

• 1:48:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:48:46Joe Rogan?

  When, uh, someone is in that whole race and running for president or vice president, and then the race is over, and they realize that person was a liability, so they cut them off.

• 1:48:56Speaker 01

  And you never hear it from them.

• 1:48:57Joe Rogan?

  And then that person goes wacky, like Tim Walz.

• 1:48:59Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:49:00Joe Rogan?

  Did you see where he had a fuck Trump shirt on?

• 1:49:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:49:02Joe Rogan?

  And he's dancing and going down an elevator? Have you seen his video?

• 1:49:06Speaker 01

  I haven't seen, please play it. I haven't seen it.

• 1:49:08Joe Rogan?

  Please, Jamie. Find that video.

• 1:49:10Speaker 01

  Well, Tim Walz is weird. That was a big mistake.

• 1:49:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, a huge mistake.

• 1:49:15Speaker 01

  They should have picked Josh Shapiro from, um, uh, the governor of Pennsylvania.

• 1:49:20Joe Rogan?

  I think they're worried about the Jewish thing.

• 1:49:21Speaker 01

  Well, of course. It's a big swing state, uh, and, and, and it would have been better.

• 1:49:27Joe Rogan?

  Okay. You go full screen on this.

• 1:49:28Speaker 01

  Is that really this him?

• 1:49:30Joe Rogan?

  No, it's not real. It's real. No, it's not. Yes, it is. AI-generated. No, no, no, it's real.

• 1:49:36Joe Rogan?

  I love it. It's real. It's not real. It's gotta be real.

• 1:49:38Speaker 01

  It has to be real.

• 1:49:40Joe Rogan?

  It has to be real.

• 1:49:40Speaker 01

  Jamie.

• 1:49:41Joe Rogan?

  Come on, man.

• 1:49:42Speaker 01

  Jamie's compromised.

• 1:49:43Joe Rogan?

  Look at him dancing. That is so real, Jamie.

• 1:49:45Speaker 01

  By the way, if this was real, he might have won.

• 1:49:48Speaker 03

  It's probably a real person. It might not be Tim Walz. The fuck Trump is AI-generated.

• 1:49:52Joe Rogan?

  No, he slaps his ass.

• 1:49:53Speaker 01

  I mean, that is hilarious.

• 1:49:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's definitely him. This is all 100% real, Jamie. You're a plant by the government.

• 1:49:58Speaker 01

  Jamie's compromised, and I'm worried about Jamie, and I'm worried about Grok.

• 1:50:02Joe Rogan?

  Does it say that it's AI? I mean, yes. You say it's AI. No. Everybody says it?

• 1:50:07Speaker 03

  The video I played on top says it's AI-generated.

• 1:50:09Joe Rogan?

  Rep. Riley Moore fell for an AI-generated video of Minnesota. I fell for it too. And you know why I fell for it?

• 1:50:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50:16Joe Rogan?

  Because I believe that he's capable of doing something that dumb.

• 1:50:19Speaker 01

  But that's his essence.

• 1:50:20Joe Rogan?

  He's so weird.

• 1:50:21Speaker 01

  He's a weird guy. He's in the CCP. He's controlled by Communist China, most likely.

• 1:50:27Joe Rogan?

  Went over there a ton of times.

• 1:50:29Speaker 01

  Well, he thinks it's a good place. That's the thing. I don't think he's controlled, meaning like, whatever, they're like, nodes on his head. But like, I'm saying like, he thinks that's a better way of life. He thinks government control over your life is a better way of life.

• 1:50:43Joe Rogan?

  And if you wanted to find a guy that maybe you could have some shit on.

• 1:50:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:50:48Joe Rogan?

  To put into office. That guy.

• 1:50:50Speaker 01

  Well, he's a creep.

• 1:50:51Joe Rogan?

  He's a weirdo.

• 1:50:52Speaker 01

  He's a creepy guy, and nobody knows exactly, um, what his qualifications were to be the Vice President of the United States. That was all left out. No one has any clue.

• 1:51:04Joe Rogan?

  We did a really good job with defunding the police.

• 1:51:06Speaker 01

  Well, you know, his psychopath wife sat there and was like, when we smelled the burning tires from the riots, it was a real moment. We just took it in. The people that live in that region of the country, many of them are sick. They don't get enough sunlight. It's very cold. They're incredibly radical. They live around all white people, and yet they're the most concerned with racism. And, you know, they almost elected a Somali mayor there, uh, or governor or something, but they just pulled his support away.

• 1:51:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what happened with that? Why'd they pull the support away?

• 1:51:39Speaker 01

  They said that there was something wrong with the convention, that there were like, people's votes weren't counted. But it seems like the Democrats realized, oh, we're gonna import all these people that we think are gonna vote for us. They're actually gonna vote for themselves and get rid of us.

• 1:51:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:51:55Speaker 01

  So it's like, oh, we'll import all these people, they'll vote for us. And then they're like, wait a minute, fuck you, we'll just run one of our people. Why the hell, why do we need to, why do we need to elect you? We can just elect this guy. And it's like the guy from Captain Phillips. It's the guy.

• 1:52:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'm the captain now.

• 1:52:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:52:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:12Speaker 01

  And, and I'm sure he's lovely.

• 1:52:15Speaker 01

  And I'm not saying he shouldn't run in America. I'm not saying a pirate shouldn't be the mayor of an Amer- great American city.

• 1:52:21Joe Rogan?

  That fucking state has not recovered from Prince dying.

• 1:52:25Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:52:25Joe Rogan?

  They fell off.

• 1:52:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I think-

• 1:52:28Joe Rogan?

  Which, by the way, died of fentanyl.

• 1:52:29Speaker 01

  That's right. The small boat crisis, really?

• 1:52:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:33Speaker 01

  Fent?

• 1:52:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, hip issues. So, in pain, um, got a hold of the wrong pills.

• 1:52:38Speaker 01

  The patch.

• 1:52:39Joe Rogan?

  So here's the thing, no, it's um, it's not that, the patch won't kill you. Cause the patch is actually, goes through the dermis, it actually regulates the dose. Uh, Prince Rogers Nelson, official cause of death was an accidental overdose of fentanyl. So what happens is, and what happened with Tom Petty too, is these guys, uh, their, their taste, their appetite, uh, far exceeds the prescription. And, uh, they're in pain all the time, and so they get pills from other people. So with Tom Petty, I think he got it from a roadie. Uh, he wound up dying, I don't know where Prince got his from. But what happens is, you know, you're getting a prescription from your doctor, and maybe he only gives you, you know, three pills a day, and you really want 10.

• 1:53:22Speaker 01

  And then you start.

• 1:53:23Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't it like, uh, what the fuck's his name, Rush Limbaugh? Wasn't he taking like-

• 1:53:28Speaker 01

  16 a day, Oxycon.

• 1:53:29Joe Rogan?

  I think it was higher than that.

• 1:53:31Speaker 01

  It might have been, it might have been.

• 1:53:31Joe Rogan?

  I think it was something nuts.

• 1:53:33Speaker 01

  It was nuts.

• 1:53:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like-

• 1:53:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he was doing broadcasting every day.

• 1:53:36Joe Rogan?

  That, well, that's what made him go deaf, apparently. Uh, Alex Jones explained it to me.

• 1:53:41Speaker 01

  Wow. Interesting.

• 1:53:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Okay, Prince had thought he was taking the prescription drug Vicodin when he in fact's taking a counterfeit Vicodin pill laced with potentially deadly fentanyl. Yeah, so same thing. So you, you think you're getting these pills that you're addicted to.

• 1:53:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:53:59Joe Rogan?

  Prince apparently had hip problems.

• 1:54:01Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:54:01Joe Rogan?

  From all the dancing and, you know, like, I know a lot of martial artists have fake hips now. Um, so you get in pain and the pain is debilitating, you can't tolerate it, and so like, hey, take a pill. And then next thing you know, you're fucked.

• 1:54:14Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:54:14Joe Rogan?

  And then you're on that train and you need a, you need something, and you got a Vicodin for me? You got a, oh, give me a Vicodin. Next, then you're foaming at the mouth and dead in the hotel floor.

• 1:54:23Speaker 01

  That really sucks and that's, that is terrible.

• 1:54:27Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking horrible. It's fucking horrible. And by the way, all that shit would have been avoided if there was legal drugs.

• 1:54:33Speaker 01

  Well, the other, yes, but I also think like a lot of these antidepressants and stuff, a lot of those things, and there's people that obviously need them and are helped by them and that's great, but like, the pharmaceutical industry is so powerful and so well-funded and, you know, it's clear that, you know, one of the ways they're gonna try to control the population once people don't have jobs or a purpose is by getting them all on a, on a, on a, you know, bevy of medications.

• 1:55:00Joe Rogan?

  Get them dosed up to the point where they just get real dull.

• 1:55:03Speaker 01

  I think they're gonna dose people up.

• 1:55:04Joe Rogan?

  Real flat.

• 1:55:05Speaker 01

  They dose them up.

• 1:55:06Joe Rogan?

  Nothing upsets you, and then you can just take your government stipend and you're gonna be fine. And you'll have, you'll have less money, but you'll have all the objects that you need.

• 1:55:15Speaker 01

  You'll have all the things you want.

• 1:55:16Joe Rogan?

  Because the government will send you free TVs, because the TVs will be, gonna be made by robots. They'll cost no money.

• 1:55:21Speaker 01

  You can't react, like if you're sitting on a beach and then a small migrant boat shows up and then they all just start running, you just look at it and kinda nod and go, huh, okay.

• 1:55:29Joe Rogan?

  Then someone will turn, who else gonna clean your toilet?

• 1:55:32Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:55:32Joe Rogan?

  You need that.

• 1:55:33Speaker 01

  Right, right. Who's gonna clean your toilet?

• 1:55:35Joe Rogan?

  Who's gonna clean your toilet?

• 1:55:37Speaker 01

  Who's gonna drink your piss, Mr. Trump? It's gonna be, it's gonna be really interesting to see if Farage wins in the UK, if the Reform Party wins, you know.

• 1:55:47Joe Rogan?

  When is that?

• 1:55:48Speaker 01

  It's coming up. I don't know exactly when.

• 1:55:50Joe Rogan?

  Someone has to reverse course, and it might be too late. Because the, the amount of change that they've had over the past few years is staggering. You know, the Graham Linehan arrest, I think woke a lot of people up today. The fact that they, you could see the tweets that they arrested him for. The fact that they're arresting people for saying, "I love bacon." Like, all that shit is-

• 1:56:13Speaker 01

  The only way you can make these changes to a society as swiftly as they are is by stifling dissent and punishing it and criminalizing it.

• 1:56:21Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:56:21Speaker 01

  There's absolutely no way to completely remake a society in the span of like 36 months, you know? Like, you can't do that without shutting everybody up.

• 1:56:34Joe Rogan?

  You shut everybody up and you import-

• 1:56:36Speaker 01

  Nobody's voting to be a minority in their own country. Nobody's voting to lose economic and cultural ground in their own country. People certainly think immigrants can, can benefit a country and make a country better, and that's why historically we've had immigration. But nobody is voting for massive, large-scale immigration that completely destabilizes an existing economy.

• 1:57:04Joe Rogan?

  And the majority of it is Muslim.

• 1:57:07Speaker 01

  It's Muslim immigration.

• 1:57:08Joe Rogan?

  Which is weird. Like, how, I mean, think about all the Latin American countries, all the different countries, like, why is this the one?

• 1:57:15Speaker 01

  Well, because it's the one you can't criticize. It's the one you cannot say you don't want. It's the one that is not going to be able- There are real conditions in the world that create refugees. Climate is one of them. Destabilizing wars are another one.

• 1:57:31Speaker 01

  So if you're all over the world destabilizing countries with, you know, war and covert operations and all of this stuff, and enriching a small circle of people, and all those refugees need a place to stay, you gotta take them in and you gotta tell your people to shut the fuck up? And that's what's been going on. Progressives, when I grew up, used to care deeply about their fellow citizens having healthcare, a place to live, be able to send their kids to college, retire, whatever. All of the energy now, for example, in the New York mayoral race, is about whether Jewish people feel safe with the Muslim mayor, and whether the Muslim mayor feels that illegal immigrants are being treated nicely enough.

• 1:58:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:10Speaker 01

  They don't care at all about citizens of this country. They don't care about black people who are genuinely owed a debt from the things that Americans have done, bringing them to the country as slaves, preventing them from acquiring wealth, Jim Crow, redlining, all that. That is no longer an issue. They don't talk about elderly people. They don't talk about social security. They don't talk about that. All of the energy that was, was, you know, and it's happened right around Occupy Wall Street. Right around Occupy Wall Street, and people started to realize that it was a little bit of a scam, the way the country was being run. You had people start to design a Democratic Party around identity politics. And then the Republican Party was always kind of designed around

• 1:58:54Speaker 01

  this idea that like, you know, you had maximum freedom to start your own hedge fund. Shut up. Stop complaining, whatever. And populism was kind of killed in America. Unions were killed. Workers' rights were killed. And now all this progressive energy that used to get funneled into like, people having healthcare, is now specifically for non-citizens.

• 1:59:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, weird.

• 1:59:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:59:21Joe Rogan?

  It's extraordinary amounts of money.

• 1:59:23Speaker 01

  Extraordinary amounts of money. And, and it's not about, it's not about America or the future of, of, of New York City. The most economically, it's the, you know, it's the top city in the world economically. And the focus is in not about Americans. It's about undocumented people. And if Jews and Muslims are gonna play nice.

• 1:59:50Joe Rogan?

  Weird.

• 1:59:51Speaker 01

  It's odd.

• 1:59:52Joe Rogan?

  Real weird.

• 1:59:53Speaker 01

  It's strange to me. I'm not saying those are completely unimportant issues, but they completely dominate the conversation to a level that's absurd.

• 2:00:01Joe Rogan?

  He's also, here's another absurd thing. He's also running on this promise of setting up a transgender hub. Where you can go and get fixed up there.

• 2:00:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:00:11Joe Rogan?

  Where they're gonna pay for people.

• 2:00:12Speaker 01

  In the park? No, I'm kidding.

• 2:00:13Joe Rogan?

  I... There's a tent.

• 2:00:17Joe Rogan?

  There's a tent you go in there, it looks like fucking one of those Dexter tents.

• 2:00:21Speaker 01

  He's gonna do it in the Friends Fountain that they all jumped in at the beginning of Friends. Yeah, he's gonna do... No, I mean, um, uh, we don't need a transgender hub. Uh, not to hurt anybody's feelings. People should be able, I think adults should be able to do whatever they want.

• 2:00:35Joe Rogan?

  The Friends theme is playing in my head right now.

• 2:00:37Speaker 01

  It is, yeah. In the fountain.

• 2:00:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:40Speaker 01

  We don't need a transgender hub. We don't need a sanctuary city. I don't think we all, we don't, and me and you have said this, you don't need ice raids ripping families apart at graduation, either.

• 2:00:49Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:00:50Speaker 01

  But you need an enforcement of law. You need to build a middle class. You need to make things affordable. Um, they run California on eight trillion dollars worth of tech money in Northern California. They run New York on a lot of fucking finance money. And these people bring in a class of people that cannot understand them. So culturally, it's nice when the maid can't understand you. It's nice. It's nice when she really doesn't know what you're saying. Um, and I'm not saying that you gotta, you obviously get rid of every immigrant, but this whole idea that

• 2:01:28Speaker 01

  the American working class, if they are not participating in their own destruction, they are somehow a racist. Or they're xenophobic.

• 2:01:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:39Speaker 01

  Is psychotic.

• 2:01:40Joe Rogan?

  It is psychotic.

• 2:01:40Speaker 01

  It's psychotic.

• 2:01:41Joe Rogan?

  It's weird. It's just weird that people accept it. And it's also weird that it's attached to being a kind compassionate person who's on the left.

• 2:01:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:01:49Joe Rogan?

  And, you know, and also just complete lack of...

• 2:01:54Joe Rogan?

  Any, like, anybody who gets arrested has no cash bail.

• 2:01:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:00Joe Rogan?

  Right? So there's, there's no punishment for committing crimes. It's ve- it's very strange. Like, it is all set, like, if you wanted to be the person, if you want to be the person that's gonna like, try to completely destabilize a country, you'd do it exactly that way. I'm not saying that that's why they're doing it, but it just feels very strange that they've gotten everybody to kind of go along with all this.

• 2:02:22Speaker 01

  Well, it seems to be preparing to run a country without people. It seems very much, if I'm a nut, a conspiracy nut, which I am, and I'm wondering how you begin to sever ties with people, first you're gonna replace the people in your own country with people from another country that you could pay a lot less money to, who you have no cultural ties with, who you don't even speak the same language. And then eventually, you're gonna discard those people for robots.

• 2:02:53Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 2:02:54Speaker 01

  And machines.

• 2:02:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think you want to set up more internal conflict. Like, if people figure out that this white versus black struggle in America is kind of bullshit, right? And then the racism that people think exists is kind of accentuated by social media, and then they figure out that that racism that exists is accentuated by bots, so that they're pitting us against each other when the most people are cool. The vast majority. And then also, there's the gay-straight thing. And there's this weird push recently to try to repeal gay marriage.

• 2:03:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:32Joe Rogan?

  It's like, who's pushing that? Well, that seems like one of those fake things that they do to keep each other at each other's throats. Well, what's the ultimate one? The ultimate one is Sharia law, right? The ultimate one is bring in as many Muslims as you can. Let them gather up steam. Let them build up an alliance. Let, let a bunch of like, really fucking stupid, wacky leftists go along with this.

• 2:03:57Speaker 01

  And then you pray.

• 2:03:57Joe Rogan?

  Not knowing that that religion is counter to everything you stand for.

• 2:04:01Speaker 01

  They believe in, yeah.

• 2:04:02Joe Rogan?

  Everything you stand for as far as- Women's rights, gay rights, like.

• 2:04:06Speaker 01

  So I think, I think, by the way. I think you're right. I think you're a hundred percent right. And I think the funny thing about a lot of the big, you know, super wealthy people is they don't care if there's large swaths of Michigan under Sharia law. They wouldn't care.

• 2:04:21Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:04:21Speaker 01

  They're really interested in 12 zip codes that they're gonna gate off.

• 2:04:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:26Speaker 01

  It's obvious. Like, they're interested, they're, they're all over the world. They have homes everywhere.

• 2:04:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:34Speaker 01

  Um, and you know, I don't think they care. I mean, if, if, if they cared long-term about America, wouldn't our cities look better?

• 2:04:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:44Speaker 01

  Wouldn't our cities look better? Wouldn't we have taken more care to have thriving cities? It wouldn't take that much more money.

• 2:04:54Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:04:55Speaker 01

  What, so to me, I started thinking about like, it feels like they've given up.

• 2:05:00Joe Rogan?

  I don't even know if they've given up. I think it's a strategy.

• 2:05:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:05:03Joe Rogan?

  I think there's a strategy. You, you need a bunch of discontent. You need a bunch of people that are upset. You need a bunch of people that are constantly worried about their bills, because when you're worried about your bills, you're not worried about anything else.

• 2:05:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:05:14Joe Rogan?

  You need a bunch of people that are sick, so you need to deny them healthcare.

• 2:05:17Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:05:17Joe Rogan?

  You need to make sure that they're not getting paid.

• 2:05:19Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:05:19Joe Rogan?

  The, the, the, the, the claims are not getting accepted. And then make sure that you've got constant struggle i- in terms of like, what you're allowed to say, what you're not allowed to say.

• 2:05:30Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:05:31Joe Rogan?

  And that's where we come in.

• 2:05:32Speaker 01

  People need to be paranoid and scared of each other.

• 2:05:35Joe Rogan?

  Cause we were, we were an unexpected thing. I think, uh, podcasters and social media in general, but they can kind of subvert social media with bots. You can't really do that with podcasters, cause you, you know that they're really talking or they're not, you know? You can do AI stuff like the Tim Walz thing.

• 2:05:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, for sure.

• 2:05:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:55Speaker 01

  I think they, they were not prepared for this, this level of pushback.

• 2:06:02Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:06:03Speaker 01

  That, that the citizens are giving on things like Epstein, on things like, you know, whatever.

• 2:06:08Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 2:06:09Speaker 01

  And they're unprepared for how to deal with it.

• 2:06:12Joe Rogan?

  Epstein accusers put pressure on Congress to release the files.

• 2:06:15Speaker 03

  This happened about an hour ago. They were on Capitol Hill, giving a two-hour press conference. A bunch of accusers, I think for the first time publicly.

• 2:06:23Speaker 01

  Ah, interesting, interesting.

• 2:06:26Speaker 03

  They're gonna compile a list, since they know the names themselves.

• 2:06:29Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. I was on, whoa.

• 2:06:31Speaker 01

  By the way, Marjorie Taylor Greene's been heroic on this.

• 2:06:34Joe Rogan?

  Look at this, look at this quote. "I was only 14 years old when I met Jeffrey." "One of nine female Epstein accusers who appealed at a news conference on Capitol Hill." What, what, blah, blah, blah, blah. "It was the summer of high school. I was working three jobs to try to support my mom." Of course, those are the type of people you grab, right? "When a friend of mine in the neighborhood told me I could make $300 to give another guy a massage."

• 2:06:59Joe Rogan?

  Wow. It went from a dream job to the worst nightmare.

• 2:07:02Speaker 01

  People need to go to jail.

• 2:07:03Joe Rogan?

  Fuck.

• 2:07:04Speaker 01

  I mean, this is the reality. People need to go to jail.

• 2:07:06Joe Rogan?

  Holy fuck. Okay, hold on. Uh, another Epstein accuser, Annie Farmer, alleged she was 16 in 1996 when she was flown to New Mexico to spend a weekend with Epstein. 16.

• 2:07:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:21Joe Rogan?

  And Maxwell. And was assaulted. Her sister Maria was also assaulted there, Farmer said, and sensitive photos of the sisters were stolen by Epstein. The incident was reported to authorities. Wow. What a fucking psycho that guy was. 14.

• 2:07:42Speaker 01

  Well, I think it's gonna come out. I think it's gonna come out. I think it's gonna come out that he was a

• 2:07:49Speaker 01

  um, not only, obviously, well-known, that he was a notorious pedophile, evil guy, but also that he was working for Israel. I mean, I think this is gonna come out.

• 2:07:59Joe Rogan?

  And, so...

• 2:08:01Speaker 01

  This is what I've been, he's what I, what I think, but I also believe is somewhat well-known and not a huge secret.

• 2:08:10Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it, it's, the whole thing is very strange that you have a pedophile

• 2:08:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:15Joe Rogan?

  who's also connected to all these insanely wealthy and powerful people.

• 2:08:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:20Joe Rogan?

  And then

• 2:08:23Joe Rogan?

  does something where he gets all these people together for parties.

• 2:08:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:28Joe Rogan?

  And then supposedly has all of this information.

• 2:08:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:33Joe Rogan?

  And all this, and then you have Pam Bondi saying there's thousands of hours

• 2:08:38Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:08:38Joe Rogan?

  of film.

• 2:08:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:40Joe Rogan?

  But then you have Cash Patel

• 2:08:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:42Joe Rogan?

  saying, "No, there's nothing. There's nothing and he killed himself."

• 2:08:45Speaker 01

  We're, we are...

• 2:08:49Speaker 01

  We are absolutely 100% going to find some very uncomfortable things out about his relationship with Israel. I mean, this is not going to be a piece of paper that says, "Hey, I'm working..." But there's going to be enough circumstantial evidence that's going to connect him, not only to our own government, which I imagine that the CIA was involved as well, but I think it's going to connect him to... I mean, this was such a goof.

• 2:09:16Joe Rogan?

  So, these are their files that they're holding up for everybody. The guy with the cowboy hat's gotta go. Who's that guy?

• 2:09:22Speaker 01

  I don't know, but I think this is like a fake.

• 2:09:23Joe Rogan?

  That hat is ridiculous, sir.

• 2:09:24Speaker 03

  These are all files too when they did this.

• 2:09:26Joe Rogan?

  That fucking cowboy hat's ridiculous. Just holding up the thing, wearing a cowboy hat. "We're here for American justice. The Epstein files, phase one."

• 2:09:37Speaker 01

  There's more. They... Listen, there's a reason that none of this has come to light, and there's a reason that they're dragging their feet on releasing this.

• 2:09:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because of the amount of people that are powerful that are on that.

• 2:09:51Speaker 01

  There's so many people insinuated by this, but also, the other thing is like, I think it is going to be an uncomfortable, and more than uncomfortable perhaps, with if it comes out that our ally, very close ally of America, was having, you know, was having this happen. Obviously, it's not the Israeli people, it's not even the Israeli government per se, but it's a group in whatever you want to call it, the Israeli deep state, or their intelligence community, that was using Jeffrey Epstein as an access agent to get access to people and leverage on people.

• 2:10:28Joe Rogan?

  Do you think that he was a pedophile to begin with, and they go, "This is our guy because he's fucked up?"

• 2:10:32Speaker 01

  Yes, absolutely.

• 2:10:33Joe Rogan?

  And then they have him run things. But how do you get a pedophile that can keep his shit together?

• 2:10:38Speaker 01

  You find one that's good at...

• 2:10:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, he couldn't, obviously. He got arrested.

• 2:10:41Speaker 01

  He couldn't keep his shit together, but, you know, the 90s were a different time. There's no camera phones.

• 2:10:46Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 2:10:46Speaker 01

  There's no internet.

• 2:10:47Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 2:10:47Speaker 01

  You can intimidate reporters, you can intimidate DAs.

• 2:10:52Joe Rogan?

  Right. Or you can just whack people.

• 2:10:53Speaker 03

  This is a Vice article from 2017 about the DC madam I found earlier, and I thought this was interesting. They tried to bring the info out later, after she had died already.

• 2:11:02Joe Rogan?

  Uh-huh.

• 2:11:03Speaker 03

  And her attorney said... The records could impact the presidential election.

• 2:11:07Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:11:08Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:11:09Speaker 03

  Supreme Court denied the applications.

• 2:11:11Speaker 01

  Wait a minute.

• 2:11:11Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute.

• 2:11:12Speaker 03

  They tried to FOIA the FBI, IRS, and the Postal Inspection Service since they were involved too, because it was a mail thing. She was in Northern California. And they like barely sent any info.

• 2:11:23Joe Rogan?

  And so this was in 2000 what?

• 2:11:25Speaker 03

  Seventeen.

• 2:11:26Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:11:28Speaker 03

  I think that's when the article was.

• 2:11:29Joe Rogan?

  There's no presidential election.

• 2:11:30Speaker 01

  Supposedly Jeffrey Epstein said to his brother or to someone, "If people knew what I knew, both candidates in the presidential election would have to step down."

• 2:11:42Speaker 01

  That's a quote. Jamie can find that. Wow.

• 2:11:46Speaker 03

  Also, wasn't he on the phone with his mother, in quotes, before he died?

• 2:11:50Speaker 01

  Who?

• 2:11:50Speaker 03

  Epstein, in prison.

• 2:11:52Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:11:53Speaker 03

  They said he was on the phone with his mother for like an hour and a half.

• 2:11:55Joe Rogan?

  How's he get on the phone while he's inside the jail?

• 2:11:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, his mother's dead too.

• 2:11:59Speaker 01

  Was the thing real about the trust of all the money?

• 2:12:02Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, what are you saying? His mother was already dead?

• 2:12:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:05Joe Rogan?

  Before that?

• 2:12:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:07Joe Rogan?

  So who's saying that he was on the phone with his mother?

• 2:12:11Speaker 01

  So maybe he was on the phone with someone else.

• 2:12:13Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of misinformation that gets attached to true stories to make the stories goofy. This is the whole Comet Pizza thing.

• 2:12:19Speaker 01

  Disinfo.

• 2:12:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, this is the Pizza Gate thing.

• 2:12:21Speaker 01

  Something's weird with that though.

• 2:12:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, fuck yeah, something's weird with that. I'll send you a documentary.

• 2:12:27Speaker 01

  I saw that.

• 2:12:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. What?

• 2:12:29Speaker 01

  The documentary, right?

• 2:12:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just the absolute facts.

• 2:12:33Speaker 03

  This is just a summary from AI, but...

• 2:12:36Joe Rogan?

  Unmonitored phone call to a girlfriend, though he told prison staff that he was calling his mother, who'd been dead for 15 years. Key details from the report include, "The call was a violation of policy on the evening..." "Excused himself from a meeting with his lawyers to make a call." You could just make a call in prison? I thought you have to wait in line for the phone. "The Office of the Inspector General found that a supervisor at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York allowed Epstein to make an unmonitored call, which was a violation of the Bureau of Prisons' policy. Deception was successful to get permission for the unmonitored call. Epstein told prison staff that he wanted to call his mother, who had died in 2004. Instead, he called a girlfriend. The call was not properly logged or recorded."

• 2:13:20Joe Rogan?

  How convenient.

• 2:13:23Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 2:13:24Joe Rogan?

  "The call's content is unknown. Call was unmonitored and unrecorded. Investigators could not determine its content." Oh, why would you determine the content of a guy who's involved the most high-profile investigation?

• 2:13:35Speaker 01

  They had to get rid of him. There was no way to keep him around. And if he is still alive somehow, I don't know where he is, obviously, but there's a possibility he's at Wexner's compound.

• 2:13:46Joe Rogan?

  And then there's the fucking guy that he was sharing a cell with.

• 2:13:49Speaker 01

  That guy. Creepy guy.

• 2:13:51Joe Rogan?

  Gigantic muscular guy who killed a bunch of people.

• 2:13:54Speaker 01

  He could have killed him. They might have killed him. But there are tapes, I think, that are missing a minute, they're missing time.

• 2:14:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they found the new minute today. Did you see that?

• 2:14:06Speaker 01

  No, I didn't.

• 2:14:07Joe Rogan?

  The minute, the missing minute, they conveniently found it today. Did you hear about that, Jamie? You didn't hear? I'll send it to you.

• 2:14:12Speaker 01

  The missing minute?

• 2:14:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they found it. They know where it is now, so no worries.

• 2:14:16Speaker 01

  Now it's good.

• 2:14:17Speaker 03

  I had heard that they knew where it was the whole time. They just, they didn't wanna... Here, I got it up on you.

• 2:14:22Joe Rogan?

  You got it? They knew where it was the whole time, they just didn't want to tell you. Release of missing minute of Epstein video contradicts Bondi's stop recording. Oh, nooo. Contradicts Bondi's claim. Uh, "Video taken outside Epstein's cell on night he died as part of new materials released by the House Oversight Committee." Why, why, why do you have that new minute set aside? What's that?

• 2:14:46Speaker 01

  It's a new minute. It's Kill Tony. You gotta do a new minute. It's Epstein's new minute.

• 2:14:53Joe Rogan?

  Kill Jeffrey.

• 2:14:54Speaker 03

  Saying he was still alive reminded, this story came out this week too. Did you see this?

• 2:14:58Joe Rogan?

  Old master painted, looted by Nazis, spotted in Argentinean property listing.

• 2:15:03Speaker 03

  They found a painting that was stolen and no one had seen it for 200 years or so.

• 2:15:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, and they found it in...

• 2:15:09Speaker 03

  Took it. It was found in a, like, on a Zillow post.

• 2:15:11Joe Rogan?

  Whaaat?

• 2:15:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it was Zillow. I'll double check, but...

• 2:15:15Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. Well, that's Argentina. That's the whole thing.

• 2:15:21Speaker 01

  It's the whole thing.

• 2:15:22Joe Rogan?

  The Argentina, literally, there's towns in Argentina that have Oktoberfest, where everybody speaks German.

• 2:15:28Speaker 01

  All the Nazis went to Argentina.

• 2:15:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's photos of, you know, like, "This is grandpa," and there's SS fucking uniforms on the wall. Yeah, Tim Kennedy did that show Finding Hitler.

• 2:15:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:15:39Joe Rogan?

  Where they went down there and it did.

• 2:15:41Speaker 01

  Do you think he went, survived?

• 2:15:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:43Speaker 01

  Hitler?

• 2:15:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I do. Yeah.

• 2:15:45Speaker 01

  And went to Argentina?

• 2:15:46Joe Rogan?

  I think it's very possible that that's the case. I don't know if it's true, but I've never seen any photos of his dead.

• 2:15:52Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 2:15:52Joe Rogan?

  Dead body.

• 2:15:53Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 2:15:53Joe Rogan?

  But there is a conspiracy that he went to Argentina, right?

• 2:15:56Speaker 01

  A big one, yeah.

• 2:15:57Joe Rogan?

  And didn't someone just confirm that recently? It was in some file, something.

• 2:16:03Speaker 01

  Someone said he lived and had a bunch of children. And was actually a lovely man.

• 2:16:09Speaker 01

  That's what they're saying. I didn't, I'm, I, I, I've never met him.

• 2:16:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, this is the, the latest whitewashing of what Hitler is. But this is the problem with history, is that there's so much lies that even when you.

• 2:16:22Speaker 01

  Things, right. Everyone goes crazy.

• 2:16:24Joe Rogan?

  Even about a monster, you go, well, maybe he wasn't so bad.

• 2:16:27Speaker 01

  Well, of course. And I think that like, this is part of the reason that it's so difficult. Because we're lied to so much now, and we're so propagandized now, that people look back and go, what else is propaganda? But that can lead you to some dark and bad places.

• 2:16:39Joe Rogan?

  Yes, and also.

• 2:16:40Speaker 01

  Like Hitler's good, or, you know.

• 2:16:42Joe Rogan?

  And that can be weaponized.

• 2:16:43Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 2:16:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the, also the part of the problem with all.

• 2:16:45Speaker 01

  You gotta constantly be, um, vigilant about your own consuming of information.

• 2:16:52Joe Rogan?

  You gotta run everything through a filter.

• 2:16:53Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 2:16:54Joe Rogan?

  What do you got about?

• 2:16:54Speaker 03

  The, how, the, I found an update on that painting. It was a for sale notice revealed that it was, uh, Frederick Kitegan, which is a financial advisor to Adolf Hitler. He was placed in charge of moving Nazi plunder to South America. And then shortly after the article was published, the painting disappeared.

• 2:17:12Speaker 01

  Just such a funny idea of Hitler having a financial advisor. But of course he would.

• 2:17:16Joe Rogan?

  Where do I invest the Jew gold?

• 2:17:20Speaker 01

  Of course he would.

• 2:17:21Speaker 03

  Arrested the son-in-law.

• 2:17:22Joe Rogan?

  Arrested daughter, son-in-law of Hitler's financial advisor over looted painting. How would they know?

• 2:17:27Speaker 03

  But they failed to, I think it might have been their house.

• 2:17:29Joe Rogan?

  Failed, but how would they know where the painting came from? Portrait of a lady, which has been missing since the for-sale notice revealed it was a Nazi fugitive Frederick Kitegan's home. Wow. Argentina.

• 2:17:44Joe Rogan?

  So what is the, what is the theory about Hitler going to Argentina? Cause someone said that. And it was supposedly semi credible that there, there might be some truth to the idea that Hitler went to Argentina and escaped. And the idea of him dying in the bunker was just bullshit.

• 2:18:04Speaker 01

  No, it's very possible. And he lived there supposedly and had children and grandchildren. That's what I read recently.

• 2:18:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I read it recently too, but I don't know if that's true either. But here's the thing, the true, but what is true is Nazis went to Argentina 100%.

• 2:18:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:18:17Joe Rogan?

  100%. That's true. And Brazil as well.

• 2:18:20Speaker 01

  But then also, didn't they hunt them? Didn't like the Israelis hunt them and find a lot of them?

• 2:18:24Joe Rogan?

  Fucking literally, yeah.

• 2:18:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's wild.

• 2:18:26Joe Rogan?

  They caught a bunch of them.

• 2:18:27Speaker 01

  They got a bunch of them.

• 2:18:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because a lot of these idiots, you know, they're in their daughter's Facebook posts.

• 2:18:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:18:32Joe Rogan?

  In the background, they're running through facial recognition software. And they're like, oh, look at that, that's Adolf.

• 2:18:37Speaker 01

  That's, that's Gerhard.

• 2:18:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, look at them, go get them. Yeah, they found these guys, they prosecuted when they're in their 90s and shit.

• 2:18:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:18:44Joe Rogan?

  It's wild. I was a CIA agent, there's growing proof Hitler faked his death and I think I know where he was hiding.

• 2:18:51Speaker 01

  Where was it? Was it Austin?

• 2:18:52Joe Rogan?

  See, but you say he's a CIA agent, I'm like, okay. Are you bullshit? Did you sell drugs in LA?

• 2:18:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:18:58Joe Rogan?

  Like, you know what I mean?

• 2:18:59Speaker 01

  Right, right. What are you really, right?

• 2:19:01Joe Rogan?

  Who are you?

• 2:19:01Speaker 01

  Do you really know?

• 2:19:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what's?

• 2:19:03Speaker 01

  Do you really know?

• 2:19:04Joe Rogan?

  Are you a CIA agent currently?

• 2:19:06Speaker 01

  If Hitler was alive today, he'd be too old. So he has to be dead.

• 2:19:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's dead. He's definitely dead. But the thing is like, did he really go to Argentina? And how did no one take a picture of him there?

• 2:19:18Speaker 01

  I guess, you know, there's probably-

• 2:19:19Joe Rogan?

  Maybe he just shaves the mustache and he's like Clark Kent.

• 2:19:21Speaker 01

  You always bring up this great point about the Pacific Northwest. You could kind of go up there and really disappear.

• 2:19:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:19:26Speaker 01

  In the thicket of the forest, right?

• 2:19:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:19:30Speaker 01

  I mean, supposedly there's places-

• 2:19:31Joe Rogan?

  Food.

• 2:19:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:19:32Joe Rogan?

  You need food and resources if you don't know how to hunt. And even if you do know how to hunt, you need to refrigerate things, or you need a power source. It's not easy.

• 2:19:42Speaker 01

  That's the densest woods in America, the Pacific Northwest?

• 2:19:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's crazy up there. When Duncan and I went looking for Bigfoot, because we did a show. Well, we went up there.

• 2:19:54Speaker 01

  Looking for Hitler?

• 2:19:55Joe Rogan?

  It's basically unfuckable white guys out camping. That was the joke. Here's what you don't find when you go looking for Bigfoot.

• 2:20:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:20:00Joe Rogan?

  Black people.

• 2:20:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:20:01Joe Rogan?

  You're more likely to find Bigfoot than you are black people looking for Bigfoot. It's unfuckable white guys out camping. And, you know, they're having fun and they're looking at like shadows. I think that's him. Look at the outline of the body.

• 2:20:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:20:14Joe Rogan?

  They're all dorks.

• 2:20:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

• 2:20:16Joe Rogan?

  But that, the thing is, bears occasionally walk on two legs. And if you see one in the Pacific Northwest, what you're looking at is like, the trees are like this. It's like, the way I describe it always is like a box of Q-tips.

• 2:20:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:20:30Joe Rogan?

  They're so densely stacked in there.

• 2:20:32Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:20:32Joe Rogan?

  You can't see 15 yards. You can't see any, it's crazy how dense it is out there. But if you're gonna build a house out there and survive out there, you're gonna have to have a path. You're gonna have to be able to chop down wood and build a house, or you have to bring in other materials.

• 2:20:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:20:49Joe Rogan?

  How are you gonna get water pipes so then you don't have running water? If you don't have pipes, okay, what are you, you shitting in an outhouse?

• 2:20:57Speaker 01

  Right. How, are the winters out there tough?

• 2:21:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:21:00Speaker 01

  They're not as tough as the East Coast.

• 2:21:02Joe Rogan?

  Not bad, no. I mean, it might snow a little, but like Mount Rainier up there, it's not that bad. You could live, it's just wet.

• 2:21:11Speaker 01

  I went up to Mount Shasta once, that's supposedly the one that's real creepy.

• 2:21:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 2:21:15Speaker 01

  People disappear. It's supposedly like one of those ancient portals of whatever. Here it is.

• 2:21:23Speaker 03

  So there's a document that the government in Argentina, or Argentine.

• 2:21:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know how it's legit? Because they put a black line through secret.

• 2:21:32Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:21:33Speaker 03

  Well, this is a CIA document.

• 2:21:35Joe Rogan?

  Hitler hideout in Argentina. So this is, what does it say at the top there? It says, approve for release 2020, September, or excuse me, July 14th.

• 2:21:45Speaker 03

  So they were saying that the CIA was searching for Hitler in Argentina up to 10 years after he was known to have been dead.

• 2:21:52Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:21:53Speaker 03

  But even this says like, they have a source and they don't know if it's true or even reliable. But, you know, they have to look into it, I suppose.

• 2:22:00Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. Well, you know, if you send fucking CIA down to Argentina, the odds of them not getting busted, like, people are gonna know immediately, these dorks come up and were fucking wearing Isad shirts.

• 2:22:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, and so what's the thing? They just couldn't find him?

• 2:22:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:17Joe Rogan?

  Or, I mean, what's this?

• 2:22:18Speaker 03

  These are some of the files that came out.

• 2:22:20Joe Rogan?

  With a man who claimed to be Hitler on a beach in Colombia.

• 2:22:24Speaker 01

  Kinda looked like Hitler.

• 2:22:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and he's got his legs crossed like Gavin Newsom.

• 2:22:28Speaker 01

  Why would he claim to be Hitler? Like, why would he say I'm Hitler?

• 2:22:33Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Go back to that photo again.

• 2:22:35Speaker 01

  People just want attention.

• 2:22:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a lot of people that want attention.

• 2:22:39Speaker 01

  People just want attention.

• 2:22:40Joe Rogan?

  That is the worst photo I've ever seen in my life. I could draw a better photo than that if you gave me 20 minutes.

• 2:22:46Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:22:47Joe Rogan?

  I mean-

• 2:22:47Speaker 03

  I can have AI update it, see what it looks like.

• 2:22:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:50Speaker 01

  Do that.

• 2:22:50Joe Rogan?

  Do that. Fuck, yeah. What a wonderful time we live in.

• 2:22:54Speaker 01

  Let's see if it really is Hitler.

• 2:22:56Joe Rogan?

  Tell AI to update this photo, and then tell it to give him the Sharon Osbourne-

• 2:23:03Speaker 01

  How big is Argentina?

• 2:23:05Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty big.

• 2:23:06Speaker 01

  Okay, so you could get lost.

• 2:23:07Joe Rogan?

  It's very wooded.

• 2:23:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:09Joe Rogan?

  And a lot of cattle ranches.

• 2:23:11Speaker 01

  Small towns and stuff.

• 2:23:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's, uh, they're famous for their beef.

• 2:23:15Speaker 01

  Right, it's amazing.

• 2:23:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're really good at cooking steak.

• 2:23:18Speaker 01

  So you could conceivably, if you're Hitler, be not, you could live there and not be-

• 2:23:23Joe Rogan?

  Perhaps.

• 2:23:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:24Joe Rogan?

  The thing is that you're an old man, and old men need medical resources. You need, you need running water. You know, the odds of you existing in the forest, like, people have this romantic idea of being like a subsistence hunter.

• 2:23:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:39Joe Rogan?

  Where are you gonna get all your bullets? You know, you, it's, it ain't that simple, man. Are you gonna make your own arrows? Shut the fuck up. You're not gonna kill anything with those things. Shut your fucking dirty mouth. Like, how are you gonna, where are you getting your broadheads?

• 2:23:52Speaker 01

  It's not gonna happen.

• 2:23:53Joe Rogan?

  It's too hard to hunt.

• 2:23:54Speaker 01

  It's too hard.

• 2:23:55Joe Rogan?

  Hunting is hard.

• 2:23:56Speaker 01

  No, you need the, you need the amenities of-

• 2:23:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you need food.

• 2:24:01Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 2:24:01Joe Rogan?

  You need someone to bring in grain.

• 2:24:03Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 2:24:04Joe Rogan?

  You need, you need rice, and you need beans, and you need stuff for sustenance. You, you, you, you need to survive. Like, the idea that you're just gonna live in the woods is nonsense. It's crazy. Fucking crazy. It's crazy. And, how many bullets you bringing, man? You know? Not enough. You better have boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes of bullets.

• 2:24:28Speaker 03

  This other CIA document says that he moved from Colombia to Argentina in January 1995.

• 2:24:33Joe Rogan?

  1955.

• 2:24:34Speaker 03

  55. But, uh, because 10 years had passed since the end of the war, the Allies could no longer prosecute Hitler as a criminal of war.

• 2:24:42Joe Rogan?

  Is that true? Oh, wait a minute, what?

• 2:24:48Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. Is this the CIA documents? But they look so fake. They look more fake than that photo. Did you run that photo through AI?

• 2:24:58Speaker 03

  It's still, it's still doing it.

• 2:24:59Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. Let's see what it says. Update it. Hmm. Creating an image. This might take a moment. Okay. It's like the old days. You, you weren't around back then, but. Yeah. And like AOL, when you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get a picture of a naked lady. Yeah.

• 2:25:15Speaker 03

  It'd be real funny if it's really bad.

• 2:25:18Joe Rogan?

  No, it's gonna, we're gonna crack the case.

• 2:25:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, this one says someone was talking to him. He was once a month speaking to him in Colombia.

• 2:25:26Joe Rogan?

  On his trip.

• 2:25:27Speaker 03

  Uh, that's where that picture came from.

• 2:25:29Joe Rogan?

  Wow. What? Okay. So Philip Citron, former German SS soldier, SS trooper, stated to him confidentially that Adolf Hitler is still alive. Citron claimed to have contacted Hitler about once a month in Colombia on his trip from, how do you say that? Marcebo? Marcebo to that country as an employee of Royal Dutch Shipping Company in Marcebo. Citron, uh, indicated to, what's that word?

• 2:26:03Speaker 03

  It's, it's spelled, I think that's their contact and that's what they have him classified.

• 2:26:06Joe Rogan?

  Uh, a friend that he took a picture with Hitler not too long ago, but did not show the photograph. He also stated that Hitler left Colombia for Argentina, Argentina around January of 1955. Citron com, imagine he survived 10 fucking years. That would be so crazy. It's very possible. Whoa. Wow. I mean, that's kinda Hitler, no? Whoa.

• 2:26:33Speaker 01

  People used to really dress back then.

• 2:26:35Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 2:26:36Speaker 01

  You know? People really did dress.

• 2:26:38Joe Rogan?

  Okay, that, if that's-

• 2:26:39Speaker 01

  It's a formality.

• 2:26:40Joe Rogan?

  If that's a real photo, that's crazy. Does anybody else run that through AI? And what is AI doing to achieve that image?

• 2:26:49Speaker 03

  It could have, I mean, I'll just-

• 2:26:51Speaker 01

  It just got really good.

• 2:26:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, for plausible deniability, I would go, it could think it's Hitler and just found a-

• 2:26:56Speaker 01

  And make it Hitler?

• 2:26:57Speaker 03

  And make it Hitler, but the other guy doesn't really look like that.

• 2:26:59Joe Rogan?

  Why is the mustache like, less defined in the second photo? Like, it looks like shit. He would be like, "This is not how they do my mustache."

• 2:27:08Speaker 01

  But he looks very young there, Hitler.

• 2:27:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:27:10Speaker 01

  Hitler looks great there.

• 2:27:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, he's getting that Argentinian beef.

• 2:27:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27:16Joe Rogan?

  Probably a lot of, you know, Adrianachrome down there, too.

• 2:27:20Speaker 01

  I mean, this is one of those situations where it's like-

• 2:27:23Joe Rogan?

  Let me zoom in on the face again?

• 2:27:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27:25Speaker 03

  I don't even know what kind of chair it would be. It's kinda, it's so strange.

• 2:27:28Joe Rogan?

  I'm not sure if that's really-

• 2:27:30Speaker 01

  It's so hard.

• 2:27:31Speaker 03

  AI just did this. It doesn't have to be real, but-

• 2:27:33Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:27:34Speaker 01

  We don't know if it's real or not.

• 2:27:35Speaker 03

  I would go to assume it's not.

• 2:27:36Speaker 01

  If it is real, Hitler looks great.

• 2:27:39Joe Rogan?

  The face looks slightly different than Hitler, though, doesn't it?

• 2:27:43Speaker 01

  I guess so, but I mean, maybe he lost weight.

• 2:27:45Joe Rogan?

  Maybe just a guy like, really committing to that mustache. Because nobody else would.

• 2:27:50Speaker 01

  There's also a chance Hitler was very relaxed in Argentina and kinda Colombia, kinda like the South American way of life.

• 2:27:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:57Speaker 01

  The siestas, kinda the nap. The large meal in the middle of the day.

• 2:28:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, go to a photo, hell, actually, it does look like him, doesn't it?

• 2:28:04Speaker 01

  It looks a lot like Hitler, but like-

• 2:28:06Joe Rogan?

  God damn.

• 2:28:06Speaker 01

  Kind of a retired Hitler who's relaxed and-

• 2:28:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, 10 years later.

• 2:28:10Speaker 01

  You know?

• 2:28:11Joe Rogan?

  But he doesn't look 10 years older. That's the problem that I have with it.

• 2:28:14Speaker 03

  I typed in 1935, so I don't know if that was from 55. That'd be 20 years.

• 2:28:17Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:28:18Speaker 01

  He doesn't look 20 years older.

• 2:28:19Joe Rogan?

  So that speech from 35, up in the left corner, yeah.

• 2:28:26Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it amazing he's stuck with that stupid mustache? Like, why do you like that stupid mustache?

• 2:28:30Speaker 01

  But it's his calling, you know, it's his calling card, it was his thing. You know, some people just, they get a thing and it's, you know.

• 2:28:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, do you know why they went with that mustache?

• 2:28:37Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:28:38Joe Rogan?

  Because of the gas masks.

• 2:28:40Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:28:40Joe Rogan?

  So if you want to have a seal over your face, so the Nazis were the first to use

• 2:28:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:46Joe Rogan?

  gas in warfare.

• 2:28:47Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:28:48Joe Rogan?

  And, um, when you have the, wear the gas mask, you want a tight seal.

• 2:28:52Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:28:52Joe Rogan?

  You can't have a big ol' fucking-

• 2:28:53Speaker 01

  So that makes sense.

• 2:28:54Joe Rogan?

  Candle bar mustache.

• 2:28:55Speaker 01

  That makes sense.

• 2:28:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:56Speaker 01

  So he just kept the stash.

• 2:28:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:59Speaker 01

  He kept it.

• 2:29:00Joe Rogan?

  I think that's why he had that mustache. I think that's the case.

• 2:29:04Speaker 01

  I bet.

• 2:29:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:29:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:06Joe Rogan?

  Do you know that that gas was created by Fritz Haber? Who also created the Haber method for extracting nitrogen from the air? Which is responsible for fifty percent of the world's fertilizer?

• 2:29:17Speaker 01

  Interesting, I didn't know that.

• 2:29:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was-

• 2:29:20Speaker 01

  Is that called the Zyklon B or no?

• 2:29:21Joe Rogan?

  Yes, well Zyklon A was the gas that was originally used where you could smell it.

• 2:29:28Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:29:28Joe Rogan?

  And the idea of the smell was supposed to let you know that this is dangerous, get the fuck away from it.

• 2:29:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:29:34Joe Rogan?

  Zyklon B, they took the smell out. So that they could-

• 2:29:37Speaker 01

  So they could have-

• 2:29:38Joe Rogan?

  Gas the Jews. So this-

• 2:29:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:40Joe Rogan?

  This guy created this gas that they were gonna use in World War I and, uh, he was being wanted for crimes against humanity. At the same time, he was going to win a Nobel Prize for creating the Haber method for extracting nitrogen. Yeah. Fifty percent of the- Supposedly fifty percent of the nitrogen in everyone's body today comes from the Haber method.

• 2:30:04Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 2:30:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:06Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:30:07Joe Rogan?

  It's cra- the story's crazy.

• 2:30:09Speaker 01

  It's an interesting, it's like two roads diverged in a wood.

• 2:30:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:13Speaker 01

  One of them is the fertilizer.

• 2:30:14Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, he was Jewish. And so he wound up having to flee, uh, cuz they accepted him at first cuz hey, this is the guy that gave us the gas. And they're like, "No, he's a Jew." And so eventually, he had to take off. And so he died of heart failure while he was fleeing, while he was fleeing the country.

• 2:30:32Speaker 01

  So they made him flee?

• 2:30:34Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:30:35Speaker 01

  Because he was-

• 2:30:36Joe Rogan?

  Cuz he was Jewish.

• 2:30:37Speaker 01

  Cuz he was Jewish.

• 2:30:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:38Speaker 01

  He wasn't ripping them off on the gas?

• 2:30:43Joe Rogan?

  It was gouging. It was gas gouging.

• 2:30:46Speaker 01

  You don't think he was like, "I'm the only one that can do this." "I'm the only one. The margins are reasonable."

• 2:30:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the whole story is crazy.

• 2:30:57Speaker 01

  It is a crazy story.

• 2:30:58Joe Rogan?

  His wife hated what he was doing and she committed suicide in front of him. And she was still

• 2:31:03Speaker 01

  Dramatic.

• 2:31:04Joe Rogan?

  Still alive, but shot herself. And then he left the wife with his 13-year-old son to go to the front line.

• 2:31:12Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:31:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:13Speaker 01

  To fight with the Allies.

• 2:31:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, to make sure that his gas gets implemented properly with the giant fans.

• 2:31:19Speaker 01

  Oh, interesting.

• 2:31:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It was the first time they'd ever utilized that.

• 2:31:23Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 2:31:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And supposedly that's where Hitler developed the love of that mustache. Because in order to have that gas mask to survive the gas, you have to have a tight seal on your face.

• 2:31:34Speaker 01

  It's such a... These little snapshots into, you know, just like, again, from a mustache to the gas mask. It's so crazy.

• 2:31:44Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:31:45Speaker 01

  The little snapshots.

• 2:31:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:46Speaker 03

  Claim he used a fake name, but his first name is still Adolf. Wouldn't you not do that? Pick a better name?

• 2:31:52Joe Rogan?

  He used a false identity with Citron specified as Adolf Schrittelmeyer. His account was supported by a photograph taken by the residents. Yeah, but the problem is when you change your first name, everybody forgets. You know? If all of a sudden you became Mark, and I was like, "Oh, sorry, Tim."

• 2:32:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:32:10Joe Rogan?

  It's too complicated. But if you became Tim Wilson, I'm like, "Oh."

• 2:32:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:32:14Joe Rogan?

  You just changed your last name. That's not Tim Dillon, that's Tim Wilson.

• 2:32:17Speaker 03

  Adolf in World War II.

• 2:32:18Joe Rogan?

  You get a new head.

• 2:32:19Speaker 01

  You get a new head.

• 2:32:20Joe Rogan?

  Like the Osborn Girl.

• 2:32:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:32:23Joe Rogan?

  And you could just blend right in.

• 2:32:24Speaker 01

  I'd go to Peter Thiel's Satan conference with a whole new head.

• 2:32:27Joe Rogan?

  There you go.

• 2:32:28Speaker 01

  He doesn't know who it is.

• 2:32:29Joe Rogan?

  Never know.

• 2:32:29Speaker 01

  He doesn't know who's sitting there for four parts.

• 2:32:31Joe Rogan?

  You should just go and wear a burka.

• 2:32:34Speaker 01

  I should go to the Peter Thiel Satan lecture in a burka.

• 2:32:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, you can't get in. It's sold out.

• 2:32:40Speaker 01

  It's sold out and it's private.

• 2:32:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, imagine buying a ticket to that. Like, what do you want to do? You want to go to the movies? No? You want to go see a concert? Right. I don't know. Peter Thiel's giving a lecture on the Antichrist.

• 2:32:50Speaker 01

  It's clearly such a

• 2:32:51Speaker 03

  Let's get a babysitter.

• 2:32:52Speaker 01

  It's clearly such a... You know, odd attempt at positioning whatever you want to do is like, we're gonna, you know, we're trying to fight the Antichrist.

• 2:33:04Joe Rogan?

  Or he has very esoteric interests and this is just one of them. Like if you're worth that amount of money and you're just really into weird stuff like, I don't know why he brought me over the house to meet Eric Von Daniken. But I was not that influential back then. I was, I was not someone that you would have on the radar as being the guy who is gonna affect presidential campaigns.

• 2:33:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:33:27Joe Rogan?

  I was a MMA commentator who's a dirty comedian who talks shit on the internet.

• 2:33:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:33:33Joe Rogan?

  Like, that was it. And I had had Eric on my podcast before and that's how Eric and I became friends and he knew that I had a deep interest in, and I've read Von Daniken's book, I've watched his documentary, and I know that a lot of that stuff has been debunked. And that's one of the reasons why they wanted to be, bring me over to ask him questions. And, you know, Von Daniken is a true believer of a lot of that stuff. And I used to think he was totally wrong and now I don't. Like if I interviewed him again today, I would have a different perspective. Because I used to think that the idea that we were visited by ancient aliens and that

• 2:34:15Joe Rogan?

  aliens helped them build the pyramids and all this stuff, I used to think that's all silly. What's really going on is there was a collapse of a very sophisticated civilization because of some sort of cataclysmic disaster. And then we're trying to make sense of this without an understanding of what their technology was. Now, I think both might be true.

• 2:34:42Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, and it's supposed to, it seems there's more interest now in the UAP phenomenon

• 2:34:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:50Speaker 01

  than there's ever been?

• 2:34:51Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of that, but I also think that's because... Look, if you've been in charge of back engineering spaceships, so you've been in charge of lying to Congress and misappropriating funds in order to have the amount of money that you would need to do this stuff. Yeah. And then through all of this, you've achieved substantial gains in, whether it's fiber optics or whatever the technology that you've back engineered, where you've figured out how to make something that's like completely spectacular. You, you're in a situation where as transparency becomes more and more of the norm,

• 2:35:33Joe Rogan?

  like one of the things that's gonna happen with, um, with AI and then most certainly with quantum computing is all decryption, all encryption, all hiding, all that stuff goes away. It becomes a real problem with resources because almost all money is just ones and zeros. So like, who's got access to it? Who does? It's gonna be nuts. Like, solving all that's gonna be nuts, but also hiding information is gonna be virtually impossible. And if there's, if there's people that know eventually at one point in time, they're gonna have to pay the toll. Right. Like something, so we've gotta get ahead of this. Yes. And the best way to get ahead of this is like this Age of Disclosure documentary.

• 2:36:16Joe Rogan?

  One of the things that all these spooks, all these like former, former, Yeah. you know, deep, deep state guys who are now whistleblowers. I'm doing air quotes with my fingers for people who are just listening. Um, they all talk about amnesty. This is the, this is the secret to all this stuff. The secret to, the only way you're going to be able to do all this is you gotta give amnesty for all the people that committed all these crimes. Because the general public needs to know that this stuff exists. That's right. Yeah. So, I don't know if that's the case, but I do know the historical accounts of us being visited are very consistent and they've been going on forever. I have no experience. I have nothing.

• 2:37:00Joe Rogan?

  I've never seen anything that crazy, except on some, some, on a few things.

• 2:37:06Joe Rogan?

  But not, not sober. I've never seen anything, right? So, I'm just, it's all anecdotal to me. I've never held a piece of something that, oh my god, it's from another world. But my friend Jesse Michaels just went down to Peru, and they did all these medical scans of these tridactyl mummies, and they're not, they're not fake. Whatever the fuck these things are in the fetal position, they have all the ligaments and tendons, their heads are huge, they look like a fucking alien. They have three fingers and three toes, and there's a few of them. They're like three feet tall, and these things are seventeen hundred years old, and they look exactly like all these things that people claim to see when they get abducted by aliens.

• 2:37:50Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, they're in Peru, which is the home of many of these monolithic, huge megastructure sites like Machu Picchu and

• 2:38:00Speaker 01

  And a lot of the legends come out of there too.

• 2:38:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well also, the Nazca Lines. Like immense artwork that you could only see from the sky. Also, all their artwork, like, they have ancient artwork depicting three-fingered, three-toed beings with big heads and big eyes.

• 2:38:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:38:21Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck is all this stuff?

• 2:38:22Speaker 01

  It's gotta be something.

• 2:38:23Joe Rogan?

  It's gotta be something. And so, my approach to that, because I go, Jamie and I just talked about this yesterday. We go back and forth and back and forth on the alien thing.

• 2:38:34Joe Rogan?

  I think some of it's probably real. And I think it might be where this, where Egypt springs from, where the Sub-Saharan, Sub-Saharan, Sub-Saharan Africa, like, this, this whole thing where they think that maybe that was the center of Atlantis, that was

• 2:38:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:38:53Joe Rogan?

  Why were they so much more sophisticated than anybody else? How did they develop these kind of, how old are these goddamn structures? No one really knows. They're just guessing, it's because it's stone.

• 2:39:05Speaker 01

  Why does it feel like, right now, there seems to be a renewed interest in this stuff? Is it just the technology? Is it the internet? There are more people, there's more documentaries, there's more pop culture.

• 2:39:19Joe Rogan?

  For UAP stuff?

• 2:39:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, is it, are we ahead of some kind of disclosure, or are we, are we, are we? What are we, what is the, the, why is this happening now?

• 2:39:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think the New York Times in 2017 opened the, the dam.

• 2:39:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:39:33Joe Rogan?

  That was the big thing. When they published on the front page of the New York Times, this story about UAPs with credible accounts. You know, I had Gary Nolan on the podcast recently and one of the things that he said is they have radar of that Tic Tac thing from 2004. Where it goes from sea level to 50,000 feet in less than a second. He said, assuming this thing weighed two tons, which is like, you know, a regular car. It would take all of the energy that the United States produces in a year to achieve that. To go that fast with a 4,000 pound thing.

• 2:40:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:40:14Joe Rogan?

  To go from zero to 50,000 feet in less than a second. That's how much energy it would take to do that.

• 2:40:21Speaker 01

  It's, it's, it's.

• 2:40:23Joe Rogan?

  That's real.

• 2:40:23Speaker 01

  It's real. Yeah, no.

• 2:40:24Joe Rogan?

  But that's what's weird. Like, that's radar.

• 2:40:26Speaker 01

  And you've had Ross Colthard on, that guy?

• 2:40:28Joe Rogan?

  No, I have not.

• 2:40:29Speaker 01

  He's an interesting guy from Australia. He, they're, they're, they talk about stuff like this and it's just, I can, you know, what's really hard about this stuff is you can never like, it's a nebulous.

• 2:40:39Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:40:39Speaker 01

  You know?

• 2:40:40Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:40:41Speaker 01

  Cause like, we can talk about the CIA, we can talk about all these things that are provable and exist and there's names and dates and

• 2:40:47Joe Rogan?

  Yup.

• 2:40:47Speaker 01

  Things and you could go, they manufactured this or they.

• 2:40:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:40:51Speaker 01

  With this stuff, we're talking about government agencies without a name or a name that's unknown to us.

• 2:40:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:40:57Speaker 01

  In locales we've never been.

• 2:40:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:40:59Speaker 01

  In underground cities. It's all very speculative for my taste. I don't doubt that some level of it happens, obviously. But we're talking about, I don't know how to even approach it. There's so many people talking about it. They probably have no idea what they're talking about. It's so hard.

• 2:41:17Joe Rogan?

  A lot of schizophrenics involved.

• 2:41:19Speaker 01

  A lot of schizophrenics.

• 2:41:20Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people that are just complete scam artists that are lying about having been abducted. There's a lot of ego involved. People want to be special. They want to be the type of person that the aliens are really interested in. You know?

• 2:41:32Speaker 01

  It's hard.

• 2:41:33Joe Rogan?

  It's hard. And again, with no personal experience, but then when you talk to people that have had personal experiences, it's very odd how compelling they are.

• 2:41:42Speaker 01

  I bet.

• 2:41:43Joe Rogan?

  And they don't seem kooky. Like I talked to this guy, Travis Walton.

• 2:41:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:41:47Joe Rogan?

  He was abducted in the 1970s in the forests of Arizona. He doesn't seem crazy, man. He doesn't seem like a liar.

• 2:41:54Speaker 01

  I bet he's not.

• 2:41:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Bob Lazar doesn't seem crazy, doesn't seem like a liar. And not only that, but a lot of things that Bob Lazar said turned out to be true. In, I think it was 1989, when George Knapp first interviewed him on television. He was hiding his face, but he was talking about Area S4. Area 51 wasn't even confirmed back then. That wasn't, that wasn't something that they really confirmed. The government didn't confirm it until they tried to expand the boundaries of Area 51 in the Obama administration, because too many people were going out there and filming things.

• 2:42:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:42:31Joe Rogan?

  So they had to go, no, the, the place where you can't go is way further. Because you fucking assholes have good telescopes.

• 2:42:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:42:38Joe Rogan?

  So he was talking about something that was completely unknown to the general public. Because it wasn't even just Area 51, it was Site 4. It was S4. And he talked about this place that now we know for sure. They were doing these black ops, these black funded programs, where they were creating military vehicles and they were flying people in and out of that area.

• 2:43:02Speaker 01

  And who's doing it? This, this is a level of, we would imagine this is like, uh, military intelligence that is not...

• 2:43:13Joe Rogan?

  No oversight.

• 2:43:14Speaker 01

  No oversight.

• 2:43:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, no oversight.

• 2:43:16Speaker 01

  President really doesn't know, Congress doesn't know.

• 2:43:18Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever listened to the, you ever watched the Jeremy Corbell documentary on Lazar?

• 2:43:22Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:43:23Joe Rogan?

  You should watch it.

• 2:43:23Speaker 01

  I would like to.

• 2:43:25Joe Rogan?

  Fucking crazy.

• 2:43:26Speaker 01

  Is it, where is it?

• 2:43:26Joe Rogan?

  It's on Amazon, Netflix, it's on probably all those things.

• 2:43:30Speaker 01

  Because that's the thing about me, it's like, Congress doesn't know. President doesn't know. And then there's a lot of CIA stuff where they don't know about this. But this feels like another subterranean layer that very few people know anything about.

• 2:43:43Joe Rogan?

  And, uh, the way you're gonna get these things done, like if you do have something, you have to back engineer it. Who will, who do you bring in? Well, you bring military contractors in, because they make jets.

• 2:43:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:43:55Joe Rogan?

  They make spaceships.

• 2:43:56Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:43:56Joe Rogan?

  Those are the people you bring in. You're not gonna just...

• 2:43:59Speaker 01

  And they sign a bunch of documents and they don't say anything and they're surveilled to make sure they don't say anything.

• 2:44:03Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:44:04Speaker 01

  And if they say something, you kill them.

• 2:44:06Joe Rogan?

  So Lazar's story was, he was, um, he worked for, um,

• 2:44:13Joe Rogan?

  fucking what is the lab in New Mexico? What's that place that? Why am I forgetting the name? The place that Lazar worked for in New Mexico?

• 2:44:25Joe Rogan?

  God damn it.

• 2:44:27Speaker 01

  That Los Alamos?

• 2:44:28Joe Rogan?

  Yes, thank you.

• 2:44:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:44:29Joe Rogan?

  Why can't I, why am I forgetting that? So he worked at Los Alamos Labs. Um, they denied that he worked there, but he was actually on the employee roster. And, uh, there's articles in New Mexico and one of the local newspapers about Lazar being a genius who put a jet engine on the back of a Honda. Like he was a crazy propulsions guy. That was what he was interested in. That's what he, clearly a brilliant guy. When you talk to him, when you listen to him talk, like clearly brilliant. And so they brought him to Area S4 and they said, figure this thing out. And they had this spaceship that was sitting in a hangar. And they had an American flag sticker on it. And he said, his initial thought was, oh, that's what's going on. So all these people that are seeing this thing, this is ours.

• 2:45:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:45:13Joe Rogan?

  It's okay, makes sense. Then he started looking around it and he started, first of all, he said it was 3D printed or something because it didn't have any seams.

• 2:45:21Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:45:21Joe Rogan?

  And then it's not designed for human beings, it's designed for something that's three feet tall. And, uh, it doesn't have any controls inside of it. So there's some sort of a connection between the mind of whatever the fuck is running it and this thing. And then it had some very bizarre generator inside of it that he said used an element that was unknown. This element was called Element 115, they have a stable version of this element. They bombarded with radiation and it creates this sort of gravity warp that allows it to bend space and time instead of using a traditional propulsion system.

• 2:45:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:45:56Joe Rogan?

  So they didn't even, this element wasn't even proven until the, somewhere in the 2000s, they, with the Large Hadron Collider. So they got a very glimpse of this element. So now this element is a real- Element, but we don't have a stable version of it. But supposedly Lazar did, and one of the things that they allege is that he escaped area S4 with a piece of this stuff. A piece of this stable element. And that he's been hiding this forever. So one of the things he did with George Knapp was he made a video demonstrating how this this element bends space and time around it.

• 2:46:36Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 2:46:37Joe Rogan?

  And it's like.

• 2:46:38Speaker 01

  I gotta watch that doc. It is interesting. I've never. It's the one area I've never gotten super into. It's very difficult.

• 2:46:45Joe Rogan?

  The Corbell documentary is excellent.

• 2:46:47Speaker 01

  It's very difficult.

• 2:46:48Joe Rogan?

  It got me way back into UFOs again. I was ready to dismiss them again. I'm like, god damn.

• 2:46:52Speaker 01

  Ready to leave.

• 2:46:53Joe Rogan?

  I'm back. But that's what supposedly it looks like. That thing right there on the desk.

• 2:46:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, that makes sense.

• 2:46:57Joe Rogan?

  That's the sport craft.

• 2:46:58Speaker 01

  And that's what transported Hitler to.

• 2:47:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, to Argentina. Well, that's where it gets weird too. Because the the hit the Nazis were very interested in like advanced technology.

• 2:47:09Speaker 01

  They were very interested in it.

• 2:47:10Joe Rogan?

  They were into the occult, yeah.

• 2:47:12Speaker 01

  All of these big consolations of power are interested in the occult.

• 2:47:17Joe Rogan?

  Why is that?

• 2:47:19Speaker 01

  No idea.

• 2:47:20Joe Rogan?

  Probably because they feel like that evil and good are real things.

• 2:47:23Speaker 01

  And that they can, well, for sure. And I also think that they try to try to, they're interested in in sources of power.

• 2:47:33Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:47:34Speaker 01

  That seems to be something they're interested in, sources of power.

• 2:47:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and back in the 40s, people still believed in witches. Probably they probably completely believed that there was sorcery was real.

• 2:47:44Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:47:45Joe Rogan?

  Some way to, you know, to use spells and powers. And if you're trying to like run the world like the Nazis were, and you're on meth. You're on meth too.

• 2:47:54Speaker 01

  You're on meth and you're trying to run the world. You know? That's amazing. They had no idea that it was just all of the stuff, the witches and everything they believed. It was just so that Kris Jenner could get a third head.

• 2:48:13Joe Rogan?

  All right, should we wrap this up?

• 2:48:14Speaker 01

  Thank you so much, as always.

• 2:48:16Joe Rogan?

  My pleasure, brother.

• 2:48:16Speaker 01

  It's the most fun.

• 2:48:17Joe Rogan?

  Hang with you always.

• 2:48:18Speaker 01

  I'll see you tonight.

• 2:48:18Joe Rogan?

  Yes, we're gonna have fun tonight at the club. That should be a good time.

• 2:48:21Speaker 01

  Awesome.

• 2:48:21Joe Rogan?

  Ron White's gonna be there.

• 2:48:23Speaker 01

  Yes, love it.

• 2:48:23Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna, we're gonna party.

• 2:48:24Speaker 01

  We're gonna have fun.

• 2:48:25Joe Rogan?

  Yes, sir.

• 2:48:26Speaker 01

  Thank you again.

• 2:48:26Joe Rogan?

  My pleasure, brother.

• 2:48:27Speaker 01

  We'll talk soon.

• 2:48:27Joe Rogan?

  All right, bye, everybody.

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