4-0 Chiefs, Lane Johnson Retires, Jason in London, Big Boy Plays, Ref Fights & Staying Positive w/Ben Affleck | Ep 205

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:16Speaker 01

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• 0:47Travis Kelce?

  For a full year with Chip Keller, they brought in these coaches and like mental conditioning coaches and the whole thing. They're like, how to avoid thinking negatively, how to think positively, like little tools and whatnot. It was a complete disaster. We in guys like, dude, guys, the guys responses, you'd sit, you would sit in the room and they'd be like, okay, don't think negative thoughts. And then we'd leave the room. I'd be like, all right, what'd you guys think? It's like, dude, I've never thought so many negative thoughts in my life. He's like, I've never, he's like, I've never even thought about failure. I've never even thought about failure. And now I'm talking more now.

• 1:25Travis Kelce?

  That ad is so dope. Kind of looks like you play the clarinet right now with that thing.

• 1:29Travis Kelce?

  Clarinet? The tech gives off a clarinet vibe? I feel like it gives off like a poet vibe or like a.

• 1:34Travis Kelce?

  It's very, this, this whole scene I'm looking at is very poetry.

• 1:39Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. I haven't listened to slam poetry in a long time, but it would be like a slam poetry of like the Eagles season right now.

• 1:45Travis Kelce?

  Oh, no.

• 1:47Travis Kelce?

  Just be like.

• 1:47Travis Kelce?

  From, from somebody from Philly, it would get pretty dark.

• 1:52Travis Kelce?

  I'm trying to think. I'm trying to like, I need to see an example of like a slam.

• 1:56Travis Kelce?

  Two scores with five minutes left. That's tough, man.

• 1:58Travis Kelce?

  It's been too long since I've seen slam poetry.

• 2:03Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, the snap.

• 2:08Travis Kelce?

  I can't even do that. There's no way I could fucking.

• 2:10Travis Kelce?

  No, that's the talent. That's a, that's a real talent. You gotta practice and.

• 2:15Travis Kelce?

  Vic Fangio got the defensive backs growing up into the defensive line and sacking the quarterback, tackling the running back. And I got no fucking idea how to do this shit.

• 2:24Travis Kelce?

  I ain't gonna lie, it was better than I thought it was gonna be.

• 2:27Travis Kelce?

  Up 20 to 10 and everything to go to win on the fourth down to go with two yards left to be complete and yo.

• 2:39Travis Kelce?

  We shit on a leg and give them the ball and they run up our ass and throw over the wall and they knock on the glass and they, they up in our ass and they tell us that we ain't got shit, y'all.

• 2:54Travis Kelce?

  Not, not they up in our ass.

• 2:58Travis Kelce?

  I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Fuck. Let's just start the show. Welcome back to New Heights. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of Wondery Show brought to you by Allstate. You're in good hands with Allstate. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelce. My big brother Jason Kelce out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, the University of Cincinnati. We took L this week, unfortunately. Arizona got us. It's a, it's a tough place to play. Tough place to play over there at night, going all the way across country. I'm making up excuses. Bearcats are on a bye though. Let's go ahead and regroup and figure some things out. Guards, 0-2 right now in the playoffs. Not doing so hot. We kind of have had a better record on the road, I believe. So hopefully we can get two games over there

• 3:40Travis Kelce?

  in Chicago. Come on, Guards, come on Guards. Locked over baseball. Jason's in London. If you couldn't tell, he's in a different world. He's in a different world. I'm in a different world. I'm on my bye as well. But let's get to the show. Subscribe on YouTube, wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media, at New Heights Show with one S of fun clips throughout the week. And this is where Jason tells you what we have coming up. 90% of us are gonna obviously talk about the Chiefs overcoming the Raiders this past weekend. We are gonna talk about the Eagles and what every thing that's going on fucking there. And then we're also gonna talk to everyone. We're talking about why everyone is yelling this week at each other.

• 4:16Travis Kelce?

  Literally everyone.

• 4:17Travis Kelce?

  And Ben Affleck makes his return to New Heights. You're gonna want to stay tuned for that.

• 4:24Travis Kelce?

  He's the best, man.

• 4:25Travis Kelce?

  Before we get to any of that though, we're gonna start off with what we always start off. And that's a little bit of that new news.

• 4:31Travis Kelce?

  New news coming up.

• 4:33Travis Kelce?

  Weird. New news is brought to you by IKEA this week. Thank you.

• 4:37Travis Kelce?

  IKEA, man.

• 4:39Travis Kelce?

  Biggest new news. Travis Kelce, it was his birthday yesterday.

• 4:47Travis Kelce?

  It was. I am 37 years old.

• 4:49Travis Kelce?

  37, not 38. I fucked that up in some house on the other week. 37 years old. Trav, how's it feel?

• 4:56Travis Kelce?

  Um, it feels nice because I had a lot of people reach out and say happy birthday. And yeah, it was a good day. It was, it was a fun day. Got some, got some food out here in New York and went to one of my favorite spots, Terese. Got to hang with Tay.

• 5:14Travis Kelce?

  Italian.

• 5:14Travis Kelce?

  And, and the best news that I got on my birthday was that we got a victory. Victory dubs.

• 5:20Travis Kelce?

  Well, your birthday was, I was about to say, your birthday was the next day. It was Monday.

• 5:23Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, but who's really, that was my, that was the happiness. Yeah, that was the happiness I had around my birthday was that I, I got the win going into the bye and we're 4-0.

• 5:35Travis Kelce?

  Let me ask you this. Does losing ruin your birthday?

• 5:37Travis Kelce?

  Losing ruins everyone's life. Yes. That's the fucking worst thing to ever go down. So it's like, if I would have lost, it would have ruined my birthday for sure.

• 5:48Travis Kelce?

  Well.

• 5:49Travis Kelce?

  I'm not a big birthday guy, so it's not like I would have.

• 5:52Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Did you have cake or anything?

• 5:55Travis Kelce?

  Didn't I have cake? No, but Terese's got some good desserts.

• 5:58Travis Kelce?

  Hmm. What'd you go with?

• 5:59Travis Kelce?

  They brought the entire arsenal. It was pretty good. They got some good yogurt. They got a good espresso, like shaved espresso icing with ice cream and chocolate underneath. It was weird. It was, it was, it was nice though. It was nice.

• 6:16Travis Kelce?

  Sounds delicious. All right. All right. Cool. Well, was there anything else you would like to expound on gift wise or anything?

• 6:24Travis Kelce?

  No, I would love to just keep it moving.

• 6:26Travis Kelce?

  Perfect. All right. Well, KC Tailgate, remember we're bringing the New Heights Tailgate to Arrowhead on October 18th. We're going to be in Lot M from 11 to 3. If you're a Katelyn Clark fan, our friends from Nike will be there with some merch you're gonna want to check out in person. It might be those new CC ones. I will also be there. Travis will be playing football, so he will also be there, but you will not meet him. For all the details, check out Out of the House page on KelseyClubhouse.com. Again, October 18th at Arrowhead, Lot M, Nike, Jason, no Travis, some version of Katelyn Clark merch. Jake will be tweeting and also there, it's gonna be a lot of fun. We've also got another

• 7:10Travis Kelce?

  Tape Time episode out with our friend Ryan Pagnetti. For those of you that don't know Ryan, Ryan was a analytics expert with the Philadelphia Eagles for a number of years. And he went to Jacksonville. He was with the Raiders most recently. Now he is a freelance, just outstanding personality to follow on Twitter. If you want some very random, but cool stats, he's only been out of the NFL for months and he's already gotten a rule changed in the NFL. But he also joined us to sit down and explain them to me because I don't know shit about analytics, other than what the percentages say. I've always been curious about how they're calculated and what goes into them and what kind of different analytics they are, how analytical does it get? Well, if you want to check

• 7:54Travis Kelce?

  that out, if you've ever been interested in that, there's some great conversation in this Tape Time episode with Ryan Pagnetti. Trav, New Heights Halloween.

• 8:03Travis Kelce?

  How about it, man?

• 8:05Travis Kelce?

  Did you see this?

• 8:06Travis Kelce?

  A bit of new news. We're, we're starting to get New Heights Halloween costume decorations rolling in. Oh my fucking gosh. Hey.

• 8:14Travis Kelce?

  Pretty cool.

• 8:15Travis Kelce?

  Hey, Larry Swift and Travis Kelce. Hey.

• 8:21Travis Kelce?

  I want to know, I wish there was like something next to these for reference as like how big they are.

• 8:26Travis Kelce?

  Why'd they have to make my wife cross eyed? That's all I'm asking.

• 8:29Travis Kelce?

  It's a good point. Those eyes are a little crossed. Maybe Tay's about to sneeze.

• 8:35Travis Kelce?

  She does. She does go cross eyed before she's.

• 8:39Travis Kelce?

  Well, I think so. It's a reasonable, like sometimes it just happens. It's not like a thing. What a, so this looks like it's like two hay bales. What's a hay bale? How big, how big is a hay bale?

• 8:52Travis Kelce?

  What? I mean, this is probably six foot. Yeah, these things are huge. The question is, do they then feed the hay? Like, is this gonna end up being a that's, that's fed to cows or you can't do that after you paint it, right?

• 9:06Travis Kelce?

  They make edible paint, I'm sure.

• 9:12Travis Kelce?

  Well, to any of you guys who have other Halloween outfits that you're thinking about, as always, please send in your New Heights themed costumes to at New Heights Show with one S on social media and we will be picking out some of our favorites for the Halloween episode. My favorite, I just recently saw it again. I don't know if it was a Halloween one, but somebody dressed their baby as Mama Kells.

• 9:33Travis Kelce?

  It's iconic. It is so good.

• 9:36Travis Kelce?

  So good. Yeah.

• 9:38Travis Kelce?

  It's so good. Shout out to that woman and that baby that did that.

• 9:41Travis Kelce?

  All right. Well, shout out to that woman, that baby, Anne Haylor Swift and Travis Kelce. That does it for new news brought to you by IKEA and that takes us to our next topic. Travis, take it away.

• 9:53Travis Kelce?

  We're at Bold Topics. Bold Topics is brought to you by Pepsi. Ooh, I love a little wild cherry Pepsi right now.

• 10:00Travis Kelce?

  Gosh, that is a good, that is a good drink.

• 10:02Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, we got after the Raiders, baby.

• 10:04Travis Kelce?

  Well done, Trav. Thirty to 27 Chiefs over the Raiders. Chiefs are the last remaining unbeaten team in the AFC. Their first 4-0 start since 2024. Andy Reid also is now the all time winningest coach in Allegiant Stadium.

• 10:23Travis Kelce?

  It's only been.

• 10:24Travis Kelce?

  Really a major shit on all the Raiders coaches. Andy Reid quote, I didn't know that. And I don't really care. That is an Andy Reid quote. Andy, Andy also had another banger this week in the press conference, which I really enjoyed. We might get to that a little bit later. Speaking of coaching quotes, Clint Kubiak said going into halftime, gotta be better, but you know what? We're winning. We're gonna win the game. Clint Kubiak said that going into halftime. I did not know that.

• 10:50Travis Kelce?

  Fired up, man. Old ball coach.

• 10:52Travis Kelce?

  Were you guys aware that he said this mid game?

• 10:54Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 10:55Travis Kelce?

  Should I text you if I see?

• 10:56Travis Kelce?

  It's Chiefs Raiders. We don't, we don't need, we don't need much motivation, man. It's Chiefs Raiders, baby. I'll tell you what, though. That team, that team is definitely, it's a different feel.

• 11:04Travis Kelce?

  No, Clint's doing a great job.

• 11:06Travis Kelce?

  It's also a guy like Kirk Cousins. Yeah. And, and, and they actually have somebody that's, you know, that feels like they're leading that team, has a handle on, you know, the direction that team's going in. They got a good offense, man. And that defense is that stout. Obviously, Max Crosby is fucking jumping around everywhere. That guy is just so fucking hard to get his, get your hands on him, man.

• 11:29Travis Kelce?

  He's a beast.

• 11:29Travis Kelce?

  He's in, and his motor is second to none. That's a good football team, man. And there's a reason why they're three and one, but at the same time, there's a reason why they went into that game three and O. And I definitely expect them to, to keep having, putting together good games and, and, you know, having a chance at a playoff here and at the end of the season. You could just tell the, the feeling of that team is a different feel than, than previous Raiders teams.

• 11:54Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, they got some confidence, man. They're, they're, they're rolling and Stout used to say this all the time. Execution fuels emotion. When you're dominating, you're playing well, that's when you're feeling it and you're, and you're coming together as a team. It's, it's hard to do that when you're losing and you're not performing well. And, you know, the Raiders have been in this kind of lull for a very long time. I know that they always find a way to get up for you guys because you guys are rivals, but, you know, they've been looking for this and they got a good team this year. You met, you didn't mention one of their best players and I feel a little slighted because I think it was their best offseason move outside of Kirk Cousins, which quarterback is always the most important. Tyler Linnebaum, highest paid center in the NFL, has really shored up that offensive line.

• 12:39Travis Kelce?

  The pivot position is secured, Trav.

• 12:42Travis Kelce?

  Was he Baltimore? Where was he?

• 12:44Travis Kelce?

  Yes, he was in Baltimore.

• 12:45Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Yep. That dude's a fucking beast. I mean, speaking of both of their interior linebackers, you know, the Kobe Dean, I think it's Quay Walker, Walker, number seven. He's, he's a fucking athlete, back to the tall, physical athlete, playing linebacker, flying around.

• 13:04Travis Kelce?

  I mean, they got, they got, they got, they, they went out and they got pieces that fit that mold on the, on the defense and offensive side and, and they're, they're gelling, man. We just, we just, you know, we got K nine. We got K nine and Pat Mahomes, man. And, and it was fun to see K nine go out there and, and finish that ball game the way he did, man.

• 13:23Travis Kelce?

  They had a lot of great offseason acquisitions and they had one very big offseason subtraction, not end up going through, which ended up being another offseason addition by keeping Max Crosby their best player.

• 13:36Travis Kelce?

  I forgot all about that.

• 13:37Travis Kelce?

  Crazy. Like, these guys are rolling and they still got Crosby.

• 13:42Travis Kelce?

  Do you think Baltimore's looking at that? Like, why didn't we?

• 13:45Travis Kelce?

  Probably not. I mean, I think they're happy that they went with their judgment, but, I mean, Max looks pretty good. He looks pretty good.

• 13:51Travis Kelce?

  Doesn't look like anything's wrong with the knee right now.

• 13:54Travis Kelce?

  You just mentioned Kenneth Walker. Let's talk about K nine. K nine is the third running back all time, Travis, to average 130 plus rushing yards per game on six plus yards per rush over a four and O start period. Only other two running backs that have done all of that. This might be one of the biggest LeBrons that we were.

• 14:16Travis Kelce?

  Crazy.

• 14:17Travis Kelce?

  Emmitt Smith did it in 95.

• 14:19Travis Kelce?

  Over a four and O start is crazy to just throw in there.

• 14:24Travis Kelce?

  Emmitt Smith did it in 1995. Do you know what the other running back without looking?

• 14:29Travis Kelce?

  Is it old Jimmy Brown?

• 14:31Travis Kelce?

  It is. Jim Brown did it in 58 and 63. It's pretty remarkable to see how this entire Chiefs offense has been re kind of molded to fit one very influential piece. Like, I, it's, and I give a lot of credit to Andy Reid. I mean, obviously Eric Bienemy is involved in this.

• 14:50Travis Kelce?

  Got to, got to throw Kocheck in there, run game coordinator.

• 14:52Travis Kelce?

  And this is why Andy's so good. This is why Andy's so good. Andy has continually kept evolving with the NFL, right? It, it, he, he had his way that he did things with Brett Favre, when he was first with Philadelphia, McNabb, to everything he's doing in Kansas City now and, or did do a Kansas City and what he's doing now this year. Like, it's, it's been a pleasure to watch how much that they've really looked at themselves in the mirror this offseason and come out with something that the league is really struggling to stop. And they built it around this guy, man. It's, it's pretty awesome to watch.

• 15:28Travis Kelce?

  It's even more credit to a guy like Kenneth Walker for understanding that, you know, we're going to give you this opportunity. How are you going to handle that opportunity? Are you going to, and he is the most professional guy in the building when it comes to, you know, taking care of his body, making sure that he's up to, you know, pursuing that, that challenge. You know what I mean? Like, he's, he's just, he's an awesome teammate to have, man. I couldn't, I can't say enough about who the guy is, but at the same time, man, it's fucking fun playing with him out there on the field, man. He's, he's not only, you know what I mean, electric as a, as a ball player, man, but he's just a great teammate, man.

• 16:03Travis Kelce?

  It, it looks like it. And you can see all of your guys' energy and even before you guys started games, right? You were telling me so much about this guy's mentality, who he is as a teammate, his attention to detail, his focus in practice. And then when I went up to training camp practice, it's the same thing everybody else said. There's something special about this kid, man. And he's not a kid. I get, he's on a second contract, but it's refreshing to see a guy that's got all the talent in the world and also seems like he's got the right head on his shoulders and is a great person and teammate in the building. When you got all those things going in alignment, you guys got multiple of those guys. You got that with Kenneth, got that with Pat. You got at least two or three of those of you. So it, it's all like doing really well in Kansas City. That was a joke. It was supposed

• 16:45Travis Kelce?

  to be a joke. I was waiting for you to laugh. All right. Shout out to George Karloftis. Eleven quarterback pressures. God damn, buddy was getting after the queue.

• 16:54Travis Kelce?

  George was fired up, man. Angry George, man.

• 16:57Travis Kelce?

  Kirk Cousins is going to be seeing Euros and freaking lamb spits and all sorts of other Greek shit in his dreams. This is gonna, in his nightmares. The Raiders per PFF tying the most.

• 17:08Travis Kelce?

  Odysseus and the Greek gods.

• 17:10Travis Kelce?

  Per PFF tying the most for any NFL player in a game this season. Who the fuck else had 11 quarterback pressures? My God.

• 17:18Travis Kelce?

  Way to fucking get after it, George.

• 17:19Travis Kelce?

  Shout out to Dave Tobe, special teams coach, old ball coach.

• 17:23Travis Kelce?

  I was even in my head like, what the fuck? We did it. That's when we do it? I was like, in my head, like, what?

• 17:30Travis Kelce?

  Run, man, run.

• 17:32Travis Kelce?

  Fake punt, man. Golly.

• 17:34Travis Kelce?

  That takes some balls. Like you.

• 17:36Travis Kelce?

  And especially on the re kick.

• 17:39Travis Kelce?

  You have to have unbelievable confidence that they're going to do exactly what you saw on tape. That was four to nine from like, what, the 30s?

• 17:46Travis Kelce?

  So that's the thing. That's the thing. We're, we're on our like 35 and it's fourth, it's fourth and three. We end up going, whatever, we're, we're about to punt at fourth and three. We get a penalty and they bring it back to re kick because Matt had a great kick and our coverage was great on it. So we kind of pinned them inside like, I believe the 15.

• 18:06Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 18:06Travis Kelce?

  So they're like, yeah, let's give it another try. And for Coach Toad to be like, oh, fourth and nine, this is, this is the last thing they're fucking thinking of right here.

• 18:15Travis Kelce?

  They'll never expect it.

• 18:16Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 18:17Travis Kelce?

  That's amazing. We got a couple of other special teams ones.

• 18:21Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Emmitt Johnson downing it after one. There's a great fucking play to be able to, you know, throw it back to right at the end. Yeah.

• 18:29Travis Kelce?

  That's impressive.

• 18:30Travis Kelce?

  Yep. The question is, was it, was him jumping in the end zone needed?

• 18:33Travis Kelce?

  No, yeah, he, it definitely could have just stopped, right?

• 18:39Travis Kelce?

  Why risk? Why risk slipping though? You know what I mean?

• 18:42Travis Kelce?

  Good point. Shout out to Emmitt Johnson. We got one more clip here from special teams coach Dave Tobe's units and that is the kickoff fumble recovery, Trav.

• 18:49Travis Kelce?

  Ah, fucking El Jefe, my guy Jeff Bassa, the punch out, man. This, and you know what? I would be in an old angry bed during training camp. When you're at training camp, it's like the focus is for the, for the offense that, or for the defense is that everybody rallies to the ball and punches the ball.

• 19:08Travis Kelce?

  Punches at it. Yeah.

• 19:09Travis Kelce?

  And, and.

• 19:09Travis Kelce?

  As an offensive player, you gotta get the class band and.

• 19:12Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. You gotta like make sure, and even, even after the whistle is blown and the play is so-called dead, players, defensive players are still running up to you trying to punch the ball out. And I don't know why, it's very annoying, especially when you're in your third day of pads or six day pads and seven days or whatever it was. And you're just getting fucking haymakered by linebackers and DBs down the field as you're trying to like finish the play. So I was just being a prick one day. It's like, I better see motherfuckers throwing haymakers in the game or I'm fucking pissed. I'm, I'm like, I'm like, if I don't see at least two punch outs a game from all this shit, I'm, I'm like having to deal with

• 19:57Travis Kelce?

  during training camp. I was just being such a prick and just sure enough to see it, you know, in one of the biggest moments of the season, Bassa coming through with a fucking perfect punch, man. It was great.

• 20:07Travis Kelce?

  So was it worth letting them do that all training camp?

• 20:10Travis Kelce?

  I hope they do it for the rest of the practices from here on out. I just, I, that was absolutely electric. If that's what we're doing in the game, let's keep it going, boys.

• 20:19Travis Kelce?

  We'll see where your head's at next training camp if you come back.

• 20:22Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I'll, I'll probably be saying the exact same thing.

• 20:27Travis Kelce?

  And then the next play for Kenneth Walker takes it to the crib and absolutely electric.

• 20:31Travis Kelce?

  We have a little Taquon Thornton injury update. After extensive tests today, Taquon Thornton is expected back within 12 to 16 weeks. Sources say he'll have surgery within the week and there's a real chance at a late season or playoff return. That's very positive news.

• 20:48Travis Kelce?

  Everybody fucking loves Taquon. The guys, the guy just shows up every single day, you know, with his, his construction hat on, ready to go to fucking work and ready to put in the fucking, the, the time and the effort that's needed to be, you know, to have the success that he's having. And he's finally starting to, you know, we're 4-0, he's playing unbelievable. He's, he's got all, he's got Pat Mahomes' trust, you know, he's got the coach's trust. And then to have something like this happen on such a big play in the game, it sucks, man. It sucks. And it, it did obviously positive news with, with the ankle and, and hopes that

• 21:31Travis Kelce?

  if we are in the playoffs and, you know, he's, he's healthy enough, he can get, get back out there. But at the same time, man, you just hate to see it happen to such a good guy, man. We got a lot of fucking good teammates, man. And you got, you guys are going to hear me say how much I love these guys, but Taquon is, is definitely at the top of the list, man. Everybody loves that dude.

• 21:49Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, man. I mean, he's, it's frustrating because he ended the year last year kind of on a high note, even though the, the season didn't go well. He was really clearly starting to build a lot of chemistry with Patrick, especially these down the field explosive plays. Had a great start to the season. You hate to see a guy go down like this when he's really starting to come on and build that chemistry with the quarterback and the team. It's one of those weird ones where it can be really severe if there's a full dislocation and like some things wrong with the joint. But it can also be a straight break. And if you're lucky, it's nothing but the bone and you can make a comeback, even though it looks so gruesome. So incredibly positive news coming out. Thanks to Ian Rappaport with this tweet. Hopefully

• 22:34Travis Kelce?

  we get to see Taquon Thornton in some games that really are going to be mattering a lot to the Kansas City Chiefs. There is a record that's not a record, but is still cool. Speaking of cool, Travis passed Tim Brown to move into seventh on the all time receptions leaderboard. How about that, Trav? Can we name the top six receivers in NFL history for all time receptions? Do you think we can do it?

• 23:00Travis Kelce?

  100%. It's gonna be all the.

• 23:03Travis Kelce?

  So we know Jerry Rice, Randy Moss.

• 23:05Travis Kelce?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 23:07Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I always forget that Randy didn't.

• 23:09Travis Kelce?

  Terrell Owens.

• 23:10Travis Kelce?

  Terrell Owens would be another guest of mine.

• 23:11Travis Kelce?

  Larry Fitz.

• 23:12Travis Kelce?

  Nice. So we got Larry Fitz, Tony Gonzalez.

• 23:15Travis Kelce?

  Jason Witten.

• 23:16Travis Kelce?

  I thought you passed Witten. You didn't pass Witten yet? Oh, you passed him on yards, not all time receptions. It's gotta be somebody Peyton played with, right? Like a Reggie Wayne or Harrison? No?

• 23:25Travis Kelce?

  That's a good shot. It's a great pull, Jason. That's a great pull.

• 23:27Travis Kelce?

  Number six, who would be another?

• 23:30Travis Kelce?

  Oh, Ohio State Buckeye.

• 23:33Travis Kelce?

  Oh, Chris Carter.

• 23:35Travis Kelce?

  That's fucking.

• 23:36Travis Kelce?

  It's a hell of a list, Trav. Well done.

• 23:38Travis Kelce?

  That's fucking stupid.

• 23:40Travis Kelce?

  Well done. All right. Trav, you are officially in your bye week. You have already stated this. You're up in New York. Are you doing anything fun for your bye week?

• 23:50Travis Kelce?

  I'm just gonna be working out. I know we got the, the Guardians and White Sox tomorrow in Chicago. I'll be tuned into that one. But outside of that, I'll be watching football and baseball and enjoying October baseball and, you know, what college and the NFL have to, have to offer on my bye week. To be 4-0 going into the bye was one of the things that we kinda, the, one of the challenges that we set for ourselves and, you know, obviously excited to be where we're at, but even more excited to see where this thing could go, man. We got a hell of a team that, that's playing fucking well together. And as you saw this past game, man, we're playing good on all three phases. And that's what it takes to, to get to, to be a great team in this league, man.

• 24:35Travis Kelce?

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• 24:41Travis Kelce?

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• 25:06Travis Kelce?

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• 25:09Travis Kelce?

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• 25:16Travis Kelce?

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• 25:23Travis Kelce?

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• 25:29Travis Kelce?

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• 25:36Travis Kelce?

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• 25:42Travis Kelce?

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• 25:51Travis Kelce?

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• 25:56Travis Kelce?

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• 26:00Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah. Yes, they will. Hundreds of miles, different time zones, and with even more international games this season, maybe a different country.

• 26:09Travis Kelce?

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• 26:18Travis Kelce?

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• 26:25Travis Kelce?

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• 26:30Travis Kelce?

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• 26:40Travis Kelce?

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• 26:48Travis Kelce?

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• 26:54Travis Kelce?

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• 26:56Travis Kelce?

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• 27:00Travis Kelce?

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• 27:09Travis Kelce?

  Let's get into little Eagles Rams, big guy.

• 27:12Travis Kelce?

  Oh, sure. Why not? It'll be so fun.

• 27:15Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, it was, it was a tough one, man. The last I saw, it was, I think, five minutes left and you guys were up 20 to 10 in the fourth. So.

• 27:25Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, frustrating, frustrating day offensively, right? I think the defense, a heck of a bounce back game for them. Obviously, they played not up to their standard against Chicago and still not a perfect game against the Rams. And ultimately, at the end of the day, they still found a way, the Rams offensively knew the ball when it mattered most. But I mean, listen, if you're 20 to 10, the defense has held them to 10 to that point in the game. Like, we gotta find a way to win. And the offense, you know, was just not there really most of the day. You know, 0 for 12 on third down. It was.

• 28:05Travis Kelce?

  Damn. 0 for 12?

• 28:08Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, man. It was a.

• 28:11Travis Kelce?

  That's tough, man.

• 28:12Travis Kelce?

  And, you know, listen, we, we, there's all the excuses there, right? Like, you know, we're missing Devontae Smith, we're missing Dallas Goddard, we're missing Saquon Barkley, Tank, Tank Bigsby, our second back goes down, have, in the middle of the game. We're, we're missing Hollywood Brown, we're missing Lane Johnson, we're missing Landon Dickerson. Compared to the, the guys that were supposed to start the season off, this was a very much, a lot of backup players in the game.

• 28:41Travis Kelce?

  That's tough.

• 28:42Travis Kelce?

  They still had enough to get this done. And it's, this is really back to back weeks of, you know, some, some poor offensive football. Felt like they were starting to turn things around, you know, played pretty well against the Titans, especially at the quarterback position. But 0 for 12. And it's really like, you know, it's, it's everybody really. I mean, tons of pressure on the quarterback, the quarterback, you know, not getting the ball out, the, you know, guys, you know, penalties and, you know, not picking up blitzes. It's, it's like. You know, a lot of times I think, you know, it's not as bad as you think, not as good as

• 29:25Travis Kelce?

  it was about as bad as you think on third down. I mean, it was.

• 29:30Travis Kelce?

  She's trying to play devil's advocate. And maybe I turn this, maybe when I turn this film on, it won't be as bad as what I think it is.

• 29:36Travis Kelce?

  You want to credit the Rams because I think they had a great plan coming in like they did a great job of bluff mugging guys up. They ran games off of it and that made it very difficult. They, they brought will free safety and the safety was far enough back there that they didn't see him rolling down to get it readjusted. And you know, they're in seven man protections, like you know, in a seven man protection, there really isn't a hot like you're expected to pick the blitz up and the safety's back far enough, starts hitting it on the snap and they just don't get to it. Um, they did a good job defensively. I want to give them credit, but offensively it's just, you know, we got to do a better job passing the games off. We got to be doing a better job of being on the same page. Like there's, there's metal layers, there's guys physically getting beat. There's, it really was a, you know,

• 30:22Travis Kelce?

  a frustrating game to watch. Um, and, and especially for a team that I have so much higher expectations of, and I know those guys can be better.

• 30:30Travis Kelce?

  This list of injuries is, it's tough. And when you're missing, when you're missing that many starters or having guys playing through that much, it's just, you know, that's the name of the game, man. If you're, if the healthier team is going to have the upper hand and

• 30:45Travis Kelce?

  especially when it's this many starters and really this many like, I mean, Pro Bowl caliber players not in the game. That's, that's huge.

• 30:54Travis Kelce?

  And it wasn't all bad. Like I know I'm making it sound worse because I, I think the, the, the thing is like, it was bad when it, when it mattered.

• 31:02Travis Kelce?

  Dude, it's so frustrating, man.

• 31:04Travis Kelce?

  Tank Bigsby was really good. Uh, you know, Darius Cooper, I mean, talk about a guy making the best of his situation. Fans have been asking him for more Darius Cooper because he just shows up in training camp all throughout, ends up getting two touchdowns, has an amazing catch in the end zone over top of corner on a ball that's a little under thrown. Um, you take the third down, you take the fourth downs, right? Like they end up going for it on fourth down twice. One of them, you know, they're up 10 points. They decide to go for a fourth and a little bit further in the yard. They get stuffed on tush push. Uh, that could have been devastating. Luckily the defense held. And then the fourth and two at the end of the game, which that one's being more criticized than analyzed. You know, I think that one analytically

• 31:48Travis Kelce?

  makes more sense than the first one. The one at midfield, I don't think probably should have been done. But the one in the, in the red zone, at least numbers wise, I think makes sense. Now, if you factor in the fact that your offense hasn't been doing stuff, I understand why people are upset with that decision. But they had a chance if they get that first down and punch it in there for the game to be over and you know, it just, they couldn't execute.

• 32:15Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I'm hoping that the ball coach says we're going for it every time. If that's the situation. Do you know what I mean? I don't care what the fuck everybody else is saying about, you know, them not getting it.

• 32:24Travis Kelce?

  I'm with you on that, Jeff.

• 32:25Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 32:26Travis Kelce?

  When I think of the biggest moments in Eagles history, 2017, you know, uh, the, the, the fucking Philly special. All these things are when like, we're, we're being aggressive in those moments. I think as a good, as a team, if you want to be good, you're going to have to seize the day and opportunities. And I know it didn't work out here and everybody can bring up the circumstances and like, you don't have this guy, you don't have that guy, you know? I like being aggressive in those situations and I err on that, especially if the numbers back it up.

• 32:58Travis Kelce?

  But it's frustrating because they didn't get it. And then obviously they end up losing the game.

• 33:04Travis Kelce?

  You know, I think the one caveat, they, I don't know, they probably still lose the game if they kick the field goal. They still ended up giving up two more touchdowns. So I, you know, it's, I don't want to keep harping on it because I know those guys are damn sure frustrated.

• 33:15Travis Kelce?

  And one of the leaders in the building, uh, was asked about whether or not he's concerned, uh, week four in, in the league and where the birds are at right now. And Jordan Milata had this to say, not concerned. It's week four. I'm not concerned. I can't be, I can't be concerned. If I get concerned, that's where it starts from. It's like an infection. It starts from the top down. I just double down. Got to double down on, uh, what we do good and double down on what we do bad and correct it. And I mean, the guy's a, a all time pro because of this kind of mentality, man. You can't let doubt, concern seep in and take over like an infection around the building, man. Cause if you, if, if one person starts to doubt it, then the next person does it. And it starts with the leaders, man. If the leaders start to see

• 34:00Travis Kelce?

  or go astray from the path, man, um, it can get real ugly. And, uh, it's, it's, it's a good quote there from Jordan to make sure that everybody's on board and, and stays, you know, just coming to work with their, their lunch pail and, and, and finding the answers, man.

• 34:15Travis Kelce?

  They got to go to work, man. They got to go to work and figure out what are our answers to this stuff? How can we make Jalen feel comfortable, comfortable from a protection standpoint? How can we make him feel comfortable that he can trust what he's seeing? And how can we make him comfortable to have the right answers to go to? That should be the main priority in my opinion this week. And it's going to be hard again because, you know, now, you know, I know nobody's happy with the way Cam's played publicly and he's playing out of position. I feel for the guy. He's a center that's been forced into a situation because of another injury. But you know, he's in concussion protocol, so he might not be available. So now you're going to have three different guys, I think, that weren't starters at the beginning of the year for the offensive line. That's tough for any team to deal with.

• 34:58Travis Kelce?

  It's tough to just even rotate one on the offensive line in, you know what I mean? Like to, now you're dealing with multiple, that's, it's tough, man. Because there's so much communication and camaraderie with the five guys that are in there because they're the ones getting the majority of the looks, the majority of, you know what I mean? The, the, the reps and practices together. So, um, and that's the, the battle in every single room. You know what I mean? Is, is trying to be able to find those pieces that can step in and, and, and, you know, not miss anything in terms of the success of the offense. But when you get to, you know, multiple replay, like guys having to step in, it's, it just gets tough, man. It gets tough.

• 35:36Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. The biggest times where the Eagles offensive struggled is when there's offensive line issues, right? 2012. Andy Reid ended up getting fired, a big part of this because the offensive line, we lost Jason Peters, myself and Todd Herriman and Doug Peterson, like his last year, the year before, we had like a record number of like offensive line combinations. Last year, a big reason he was often struggled is because of the injuries to, uh, to Cam and Landon and Lane missing time. So offensive lines, when you start, look at what's going on in Green Bay. They're like the highest

• 36:10Travis Kelce?

  pressure percentage in the NFL and they have all these guys in and out of the lineup. You just, the offensive line facilitates a lot of times the position for skilled players to feel comfortable and make plays. That's our job. We don't make any plays ourselves. But when that's not there, it can really, really overtake an offense. And you know, I, I feel like Coach Coop is all the, it's a, the circumstances have been very difficult. They lost one of their best players, Landon Dickerson, early. You got a guy playing out of position, left guard and Cam Jergens, now Lane's down. Now Cam's going to be down again. You got Drew Kendall, it might maybe Willie Lampkin if, if Cam can't come back for the week. It's just like, on top of that, running a new offense, it's a lot.

• 36:52Travis Kelce?

  Like Jordan said, man, you just got to double down, man. You gotta, you gotta, you know, circle the wagons, keep figuring it out and keep, uh, keep showing that confidence in the building every single day, man. Uh, we had some fun reactions though from Eagles fans.

• 37:05Travis Kelce?

  Did you see the reactions from some of the fans after?

• 37:08Travis Kelce?

  No, no, no, please send the next clip.

• 37:10Travis Kelce?

  Coach doesn't kick a field goal. Bad coaching again.

• 37:13Travis Kelce?

  Look at this dude in the back.

• 37:14Travis Kelce?

  Sirianni blew the game again for the, for the on most times. We're going to be up one point, up two points. Nick Sirianni, Nick, I'm sorry, Nick Sirianni, I gotta go.

• 37:24Speaker 04

  Nick ain't it, Nick ain't it. Nick is cute. He's angry. He can scream, but he doesn't, he doesn't make the team come out of halftime and be the team. What's happening at halftime? Are we eating meatball subs?

• 37:41Travis Kelce?

  I think I was fucking hammered. Yeah, damn it, man.

• 37:45Travis Kelce?

  I do have more drunk fans interviewed after games.

• 37:48Travis Kelce?

  Be a real TV show. Are you kidding me? This needs to be a bit at every stadium.

• 37:52Travis Kelce?

  Just interview drunk fans. Oh my gosh.

• 37:55Travis Kelce?

  That's fucking hilarious.

• 37:57Travis Kelce?

  Speaking of London, the Eagles are headed to London to face the Jags this week, and I will also be on the call for this game, Travis.

• 38:06Travis Kelce?

  How fucking crazy is that, man? You're going to call your first Eagles game, man.

• 38:09Travis Kelce?

  It's pretty crazy. I mean, I was in the booth for an Eagles Atlanta game for a quarter with Troy Aikman and Joe Buck. And I think as a guest to the booth, I was maybe a little bit too happy with the Eagles. So Atlanta fans were maybe not happy with, uh, the bias.

• 38:25Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough.

• 38:27Travis Kelce?

  Well, no, I want to assure Jags fans, I've seen a lot of the Jags accounts already saying that they're not looking forward to this. I will be doing my utmost to give you guys the credit you deserve. Jacksonville's playing as good as any team right now in the AFC. I really do.

• 38:39Travis Kelce?

  They are, they are.

• 38:40Travis Kelce?

  Trevor Lawrence is playing at the top of his game.

• 38:42Travis Kelce?

  Ball player.

• 38:44Travis Kelce?

  Their defense is like the best rush defense in the NFL and nobody's really talking about these guys as much as they should be. So as an unbiased reporter, I will be giving you guys the respect and, um, you know, the, the, the reporting that the job deserves, right?

• 39:00Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, Jason, you have to get excited when big plays are made for the Jags. It's just that you got to make, you, you got to make that decision.

• 39:06Travis Kelce?

  I get excited for football. I get excited for football.

• 39:10Travis Kelce?

  That's the one thing about us is we are just ball lovers. We, we love to see, you know, great plays being made, but, um, I can only imagine calling a game against, with the Chiefs on there. Uh, that's hilarious, but the birds are going to get some things figured out. It's going to be a great fucking game. Jags Eagles in London with Jason Kelce on the call. Can't fucking wait. Before we get out of the Eagles, uh, conversations here in the bold topics, man, we got a, uh, something that just broke the internet and Lane Johnson has officially retired.

• 39:44Travis Kelce?

  I do not, I, I, I don't want to comment on all, anything because I just haven't talked to Lane. I want to let him and his statement be what is the announcement. You know what I mean? My thing with Lane is I love Lane. Lane is like a brother to me. I'm not going to pretend to know exactly what's going on or why the retirement is happening now, but we're talking about a guy that's an all time Eagle, a Hall of Fame player, a dude that like means the world to me. So, uh, you know, at the end of the day, um, he'll look back and realize that he was one of the best tackles to ever play in the NFL, especially from a pass protection standpoint.

• 40:21Travis Kelce?

  No doubt about it.

• 40:21Travis Kelce?

  And, um, I love the dude very much. We have shared a lot of moments together on and off the field.

• 40:28Travis Kelce?

  Who he is as a, as a teammate is, is, has stood true. Um, everybody that's ever been in that fucking Eagles building has said nothing but amazing things about the guy. The times that I've been able to be around him, it feels like he is a brother of, you know, an extension of the family, man. Um, he's just one of those guys and, uh, playing this game for a long time. You know, we kind of came in, uh, together, uh, back in 2013. I remember being at the, uh, combine, uh, saying what's up to him and, uh, and meeting him there and, uh, and to see him go to Philly where he's now your teammate and, and just how his career unfolded, um, and being one of the best to ever do it, man. Uh, two time champ.

• 41:07Travis Kelce?

  I love the guy. Listen, it's, it's a major blow. Everybody, you know, they're, I think the Eagles and Lane's absence, since he's been there are a below 500 team, I believe. I mean, there's a reason why, you know, he's so important to the Philadelphia Eagles on the field. So, um, you know, Markel Bell, draft him in the third round. It's time to go bubba. I mean, it's, you're going to get put in there. You've, you've been able to learn from Lane a little bit and, you know, Chris Cooper, the offensive line coach, uh, has been teaching you all preseason and up until this point. So, but yeah, it's, it's going to be a bummer for me not being able to watch Lane do what he, do what he does and, uh, dominate the way he is. He was still dominating. That's what's, you know.

• 41:51Travis Kelce?

  Come on now. Well, we love you, Lane.

• 41:55Travis Kelce?

  Little update on the Caitlyn Ones. The response has already been insane.

• 42:00Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, we've gotten to know Caitlyn and, uh, watch her these last few years and one thing's clear. When Cece shows up, the people show up.

• 42:07Travis Kelce?

  The two colorways sold out within hours. To celebrate the launch, Nike and Caitlyn hosted activations across the country, including a three day celebration in Iowa City where Dick's Sporting Goods and Nike took over downtown with a massive Caitlyn basketball court.

• 42:22Travis Kelce?

  Caitlyn also served as the guest picker on ESPN's College Game Day. That's right. It was out there in Iowa and even gifted the Iowa women's basketball team their own pairs of Nike Caitlin Ones.

• 42:34Travis Kelce?

  If you haven't seen the Caitlyn Ones yet, you need to. The design, the details, the story behind the shoe are all next level. Having a signature shoe with Nike, that's a legacy.

• 42:43Travis Kelce?

  If you missed the unboxing, the Chiefs colorway last week, go check it out. The red and yellow sea of red feels like home and it, uh, definitely hits home. And I've been rocking them ever since. And just wait, they've got more colors coming over the next few months, starting with the midnight fever on 10 14.

• 43:00Travis Kelce?

  Oh, and if you've got little ones eyeing these two, kid sizing in the Caitlyn blue drops on October 7th. Get them while you can.

• 43:09Travis Kelce?

  The Caitlyn Ones available now at Nike.com, Foot Locker and Dick's Sporting Goods.

• 43:14Travis Kelce?

  This is just the beginning.

• 43:18Travis Kelce?

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• 43:25Speaker 05

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• 44:06Speaker 05

  protection last season alone. 31 million for a whole season in injury protection. That's looking out for you, the player. Let's take a look at week five in the NFL. I'm trying to sniff out some offense. I'm trying to sniff out some offense in week five because that is, uh, the most fun thing to watch when you're playing some prize picks. Honestly, Thursday Night Football, Cowboys, Bucks. I know Eagles fans don't want to hear it. Cowboys been rolling. Cowboys been rolling. Dak can put up some numbers. C D can put up some numbers. And I think eventually they're going to get George Pickens involved. So I'm kind of sniffing around on that one. I think the rest of the week, I know this is going to sound insane. I'm kind of excited for two 0-4 teams to play each other. Texans, Titans. I think Texans got some problems, but I don't think one of those problems is CJ Stroud. I think CJ is going to have a good game. I think he's going to find Nico Collins. I'd,

• 44:50Speaker 05

  I'd look around at that one. I think where else we look in this league? Where else are we looking? Ravens, Falcons? I don't know what's going on with the Ravens. Lamar's questionable, but the only thing I don't question in the game is Bijon Robinson. Bijon Robinson. Did you guys see Monday Night Football? Bijon Robinson. I know it's a short week, but Bijon Robinson. That's all, that's all I gotta say. And we cap it with Rams Bills. My God, what a, what a Monday Night Football game. That's going to be a lot of offense. Stafford was slinging at the end of the Eagles games. I know Eagles fans again, don't want to hear that. Also Bills, that's a lot of points. Bills put up points. They also give up points if you watch those games. That's going to be, that's going to be a lot of offense on Monday Night Football. I, man, what a slate of stuff. What a slate of games. Oh man, this is a great slate of games. But again, that's what I'm watching for PrizePix. That's

• 45:34Speaker 05

  where I'm sniffing around for a little bit of offense. Jason, back to you in the New Heights studio in London.

• 45:40Travis Kelce?

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• 45:58Travis Kelce?

  Let's talk a little bit more about the, uh, the rest of week four. Jason, you called your first NFL football game and.

• 46:04Travis Kelce?

  I did, I did.

• 46:06Travis Kelce?

  It's, it dude, from, from a viewer standpoint, fan first, little biased, tried not to be biased through you. It's so natural. Your voice sounds like you should be doing this. You don't even, sometimes somebody comes in and you hear the voice and you're just like, this is the cadence is just like, I don't know, dude. Like a glove. You fit like a glove. Obviously being in there with, uh, with Kurt Warner's, uh, got to be pretty, pretty epic and full circle moment as well, knowing that we were huge Warner fans growing up. But, um, yeah, tell us about it, dude. How was it?

• 46:42Travis Kelce?

  It was incredible. It was so much fun. Um, you know, not just Kurt Warner, but Dave Pash, the play by play guy that's up there with us. Both of those guys, the, the, the production crew, Jeff, like Mike, like everybody up there, Molly on the sideline. You don't realize how much is happening there until you go do it, especially for TV. Um, you know, all the planning that goes into it throughout the week, what you're going to hit. And then before you know it, like the second string quarterback Marcus Mariota's out and you got a third stringer in that you've never really seen before. Um, it was exhilarating. It was hard. I was like leaning forward and it feels like you're in it a little bit in

• 47:27Travis Kelce?

  the, up in the booth. Like it's like.

• 47:28Travis Kelce?

  Hell yeah.

• 47:29Travis Kelce?

  It feels like you're a part of the game, which is fun to feel again. And I just want to credit everybody that I was up there with, like with making, I know everybody went out of their way to try and help me out because I had no idea what I was doing, right? And it's like, you go into it and especially the first quarter, if you're, you're like, man, am I, do I go now? Or how do I feel this out? And I could just tell like, you know, Kurt would, would do like, he could almost feel, I think, and he didn't say this, but I, I feel like he would, he would just have this way of being like, he could feel that I was getting robotic or like getting too segmented into something. And he would just be like, you know, Jason, how'd they do this? And he would like say my name and talk to me. And it would be like an instant way of making it more conversational, if

• 48:13Travis Kelce?

  that makes sense. And Dave, the same thing, like both of those guys just like really amazingly, uh, good at what they do. And I just felt, uh, I, I feel like they really have been helping me out this whole time, even when we did a rehearsal deal earlier this year. And, um, it was so fun to actually go out there and do it. And, uh.

• 48:37Travis Kelce?

  Get you some live bullets on the mic.

• 48:40Travis Kelce?

  That's right. That's right.

• 48:41Travis Kelce?

  Dude, that's so fucking awesome, man. Dude, and how fitting is it that the first game you call, an offensive lineman ends up with the football in his hands, baby?

• 48:51Travis Kelce?

  Exactly. It was like, it was very. Cisco and then the bye week, October 25th. Galik Manas has another batted ball and it's.

• 48:59Travis Kelce?

  By an offensive lineman on the go big fella Brandon Coleman.

• 49:05Travis Kelce?

  Yo, big fella.

• 49:07Travis Kelce?

  This reminded me of Sam lot when Smalls just puts his hands up. The ball just comes right to.

• 49:13Travis Kelce?

  And a banger of a reference. Let's go, man.

• 49:17Travis Kelce?

  That was fun, man. That was a very electric moment in the game for a game that was kind of starting to turn sideways for the commanders. But, um, you know, you're not supposed to step on the play by play guy. And I was so excited. And I was like, go big fella. And I was talking to Dave afterwards and I was like, should I be worried about stepping on? He's like, well, that's a very specific instance. That was hilarious. So keep doing like, if that again, feel free.

• 49:42Travis Kelce?

  Dude, that made, that made that play so much more fucking exciting and fun to like, watch. Cause everybody's like, cool. Yeah. Chuck somebody, run somebody the fuck over like, break another tackle. You know what I mean? Like a fat boy against the ball, man. It's fucking.

• 49:56Travis Kelce?

  No, no.

• 49:57Travis Kelce?

  It's the best, man.

• 49:58Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, that was a fun one. That was a very fun one to be a part of for sure.

• 50:01Travis Kelce?

  That's awesome, man. Any, uh, any panic over trying to pronounce commander's backup quarterback name? Ethan?

• 50:10Travis Kelce?

  Go ahead.

• 50:11Travis Kelce?

  I can't read. No, I don't know.

• 50:12Travis Kelce?

  It's crazy. Yeah. Ethan Kaliak Manis. Kaliak Manis. Kaliak Manis. I was just trying to say whatever Dave said, cause I was looking before the game. You know, you're checking all the guys on the roster and Kaliak Manis is on there and you're doing your research to make sure if they do go in, you gotta kind of say some stuff.

• 50:31Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 50:31Travis Kelce?

  And I was looking at the pronunciation guide at the bottom of it. And there's, there was no pronunciation for it.

• 50:37Travis Kelce?

  Oh, no.

• 50:40Travis Kelce?

  Oh, well, I probably won't have to use it if it's not down there. That sure enough first quarter, he's in. And I'm just like, all right, I'm just gonna try and say whatever Dave says.

• 50:48Travis Kelce?

  There we go. Yeah.

• 50:50Travis Kelce?

  But honestly, dude, the kid was awesome.

• 50:52Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, he had some juice.

• 50:53Travis Kelce?

  Well, he had some juice. I mean, he threw an interception early, but it was a good play by the linebacker to catch it up and tip it and get the interception. I just loved his attitude and his moxie. Like he was, he was chucking it, man. And he was smiling on the sidelines. You could tell he was really happy and excited to be out there playing his first NFL action. So, um, it was a complete joy to watch Ethan play. No doubt about it.

• 51:15Travis Kelce?

  That's awesome, man. Well, I wasn't the only one that enjoyed it. Everybody fucking enjoyed Jason Kelce in the booth, uh, doing a little color commentating. Um, we just got this tweet here from Andrew Marchand, ESPN's NFL N team of Posh, Kelce and Warner sound like an NFL level broadcast. Kelce continues to show potential in the booth. We got a legendary correspondent, uh, Bo Allen actually tweeted, uh, shout out to my bud Jake Kelce in the booth today for the Colts commanders. Great perspective on the game. Um, and a great pull of one of the greatest movies ever Sam lot. Um, then, uh, Lexi Osborne, uh, Jason Kelce may have found his calling with color commentating. Really enjoyed him on this game. Dude, you

• 51:59Travis Kelce?

  love football and that's the, that's the one of the fucking, and it, and it, it was very, it like oozed out of you. And when, when I heard, uh, what I got to, what I got to hear on the game, man. And it's, you know, when, when you're making the game fun to be a part of, people are gonna fucking love it, man. And I think it, I think it just comes very natural to you, brother. And I couldn't be more proud of you, man. That was awesome.

• 52:23Travis Kelce?

  I appreciate it, Trav. It was, it was a very fun game to, it was a very fun experience. We get another shot at it this week. Uh, obviously with the Eagles and Jags, uh, looking for, I've already, you know, there's already, of course, you know, I was excited to do the first one, but there's so many things to get better at. So I'm, I'm looking forward to getting another go at it this week. Be in London for another one. I don't know what the fuck I just.

• 52:44Travis Kelce?

  You sound like FM lot dad. I was actually watching Sarah, forgetting Sarah Marshall the other day.

• 52:50Travis Kelce?

  That was a much better accent. All right. Let's get to everything else, Trav. Um, remaining unbeaten's are now the Vikings, Niners and Chiefs. That's wild.

• 53:00Travis Kelce?

  Fucking rolling, man. Vikings are probably the most shocking in my mind at least.

• 53:05Travis Kelce?

  I don't know how, I mean, Brian Flores has to be a head coach after this year, right? Like the Vikings have no offense and they are fucking unbeaten. This is insane. It is insane. They are so good on defense that it's crazy. They've won two games without scoring a touchdown, Travis.

• 53:22Travis Kelce?

  That's insane. Was it the Texans that were doing that? Who did that as of, as of late?

• 53:26Travis Kelce?

  Well, the Texans were iconically very, very good last year and their offense was struggling. And, uh, Dolphins kind of got it going later in the year when CJ came back a little bit, but then faltered in the playoffs. But yes, the, the Vikings, shockingly, they are undefeated despite Kyler Murray missing a couple of games and Carson having to start and then Kyler coming back. And again, multiple games without scoring a touchdown offensively. That's impressive. Winless Tampa Bay Bucks, Chargers, Texans, Titans and Dolphins. There's five winless teams still.

• 53:59Travis Kelce?

  Damn, very surprising. Those first three Bucks, Chargers, Texans. Never saw this coming. Obviously Titans, new coach, Dolphins, new coach, gotta get things kind of going in the right direction. Bucks, Chargers, Texans, we're coming into this year, we're all thinking they're gonna, all three of those teams are in the playoffs.

• 54:18Travis Kelce?

  For sure. Yeah. I mean, the Texans had the best defense in the NFL last year. It may be arguable, uh, with the Vikings, but, uh, they were incredible. If you look at the statistics, I guess more arguable with Seattle, like maybe, but either way, the Texans are loaded on the defense side of the ball. It's, you know, the, but the defense hasn't been as quite as dominant. They're still good. They just haven't been like what the Vikings are doing right now. And the offense really hasn't improved as much as I think people expected. The Bucks, man, I mean, I'm feeling for my guy Todd. I was with Todd in Philadelphia, an amazing defensive coach. Uh, now they're without Baker Mayfield. It's, it just has not gone their way this year. And then the Chargers is probably the most surprising. That was the one I really thought like, do you take Herbert and Mike

• 55:03Travis Kelce?

  McDaniel and Jim Harbaugh? Like there's no way, and this offensive line healthy, there's no way this team isn't going to be really good. And, um, it just is not clicking right now, man. I don't, it, it's a, it's wild to see that that's not working out the way everybody expected yet. Um, so, yeah, man. The NFL is crazy. It is absolutely nuts.

• 55:26Travis Kelce?

  It's all, it's, it's any given Sunday, dog. You gotta fucking, you gotta find a way, man. Everyone was yelling at each other this week. Uh, we got Cam Hayward yelling. We got TJ Watt yelling.

• 55:38Travis Kelce?

  Well, it was really, it was only the Steelers. Actually, you guys are yelling too.

• 55:42Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, everybody was yelling. Football is a fucking game of hostility, man.

• 55:46Travis Kelce?

  Dude, this is actually a point I want to make. I think people get surprised at football players yelling because they forget like this is what you do when you're really passionate about something and you want to get it fucking fixed. Because everybody lives in this corporate world where you're not allowed to yell at people. And it's just like, no, actually we just yell at each other all the fucking time. Like this is, this is a Wednesday practice. I told you to fucking block the three technique. What the fuck is going on? That's a standard day for a football player.

• 56:13Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Uh, yeah. And then, you know, sometimes, sometimes a little yelling sparks a little, you know, intensity, a little bit more, you know, aggression and like, I gotta fucking get this fucking thing done, you know?

• 56:27Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. We need to be yelling it. We need people to be yelled at more, I think in this world. They've forgotten the.

• 56:33Travis Kelce?

  You heard it here first, Brandon.

• 56:35Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 56:37Travis Kelce?

  Jake, fucking, we're pro, we're a pro yelling business now.

• 56:42Travis Kelce?

  I'm a pro, I'm a pro yeller. I'm a pro yeller. It's a great, the change in volume.

• 56:54Travis Kelce?

  Nobody told you to come in here.

• 56:55Travis Kelce?

  Am I Mike McCarthy in this situation?

• 56:59Travis Kelce?

  Fuck. All's fair in fucking football. Who cares? I fucking know that I've yelled at shit with people that I love all the fucking time. Yelling at me is a great way to get me fired the fuck up, especially in the middle of a game. This motherfucker's yelling at me. This buddy, you, you yelling at me? And I go out there like Bobby Boucher and I start fucking.

• 57:18Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. What are you gonna say now, coach? Looks like I did my job, Jason.

• 57:25Travis Kelce?

  Let's fucking go. Two referees were suspended for yelling. So much yelling. Um, I didn't even know you could suspend referees.

• 57:32Travis Kelce?

  Well, according to the NFL RA, uh, who responded to the suspensions, by the way, the NFL RA is the NFL Ref Association. So that's the union for the NFL officials. NFL officials have a responsibility to conduct themselves professionally on the field and the actions in these incidents fell short of that standard. Accountability matters, but that shall not result in discipline that is excessive or inconsistent with established precedent, meaning fuck off. They're not suspended. So I don't know what the fuck's gonna happen. Um.

• 58:04Travis Kelce?

  Oh, shit.

• 58:05Travis Kelce?

  I mean, that's what that is. It's basically them saying like, yeah, I know they fucked up, but you ain't taking this guy's money. So it'll be interesting to see what the reaction is. I saw both of them. I think so. Jeff Siemens, great name. Jeff Siemens, uh, said fuck you to Trey McBride.

• 58:21Travis Kelce?

  I've been in a few fuck you conversations with refs.

• 58:25Travis Kelce?

  This one to me is like, I, I kind of am with the officials union on this one because I don't think, I, I think he said fuck you. It was probably in response to a bunch of back and forth before that. We had to listen to a bunch of nonsense. So I kind of feel like he's probably at least somewhat warranted in telling Trey to fuck off. Maybe he's not.

• 58:44Travis Kelce?

  You think Trey gave him a fuck you first or what?

• 58:46Travis Kelce?

  I mean, what do you think? They, they, they were, they were going back and forth. And he probably said something. The guy said, fuck off. Fuck you. I'm tired of dealing with you. I don't think that there's that much wrong with it. I get that maybe he shouldn't act that way. And maybe the NFL Ref Association should be like, hey, probably not a good look for you to tell players to fuck you. But regardless, like, I mean, I'm not that mad about that.

• 59:05Travis Kelce?

  What are we talking about?

• 59:06Travis Kelce?

  I do think the Aiden, did you see the Aiden Hill one? Play that one.

• 59:10Travis Kelce?

  Was wild.

• 59:11Travis Kelce?

  I have a bigger problem with this one. Cause clearly Eric Wilson did not try to do this. And then he's trying to help him up and then he gets mad at him. I think this is bogus.

• 59:21Travis Kelce?

  I feel like I've been around the ref before and a very uncharacter, like I would have never guessed that he was gonna be the one to react.

• 59:30Travis Kelce?

  Probably just got embarrassed and fell down and then he's mad. And maybe he didn't know. He thought that the guy did it on purpose. I don't know. Who knows? Or he's blowing the whistle, I guess. So he's mad that it probably happened. Whatever. That's probably what this is. This is probably getting taken out of context because nobody else is playing. Go back to the start of this, Brandon.

• 59:51Travis Kelce?

  So why is Eric still going after him? You know what I mean? That's probably why the official was like, you need to go back to your side of the ball. And he's mad that he got hit because he had already been blowing it dead. You know what? I've retracted all this. I'm on the side of both of these officials. I take the official side. Players can be fucking dicks. I knew it firsthand because I was a dick. I, I'm kind of, I'm pro officials standing up for themselves. Fuck this. All right, where are we at now?

• 1:00:16Travis Kelce?

  It does feel like this, there is a bit of it getting taken out of context just because

• 1:00:21Travis Kelce?

  Cause it does look, isn't it weird?

• 1:00:23Travis Kelce?

  Of it all and

• 1:00:24Travis Kelce?

  When I first saw it, it looked like he was accidentally pushed in, which he is. But then when you watch it further, it's like, why is he still going? Like the official's blowing the whistle. He probably should have already stopped and I do like Eric Wilson. He's a very nice person. Eric's one of the nicest guys I've ever met.

• 1:00:40Travis Kelce?

  But when you're on the football field, it's like legal assault. So it's

• 1:00:43Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I mean, I get it. Let's have, let's, let's tell the officials. Let's tell the officials, we should probably refrain from acting that way as, as officials in the NFL. But at the same time, um, yeah, I kind of, I don't really mind it.

• 1:01:01Travis Kelce?

  Well, one thing that is very noticeable about the refs is that we're setting an NFL record this year with flags thrown.

• 1:01:08Travis Kelce?

  All right. I had you guys back when you told us to fuck off. This is where I'm going to disagree. We need to put the, the flags back in the pockets a little bit. I, I, I'm all for defending referees and I don't think there's been a lot of questionable calls of callback touchdowns. There's a crazy amount that have, and you, I've been harping on this for like two weeks, Trav. You know me. I've been saying this. I do not think, especially end of game situations, that we should be calling all these fucking penalties. Like I just

• 1:01:33Travis Kelce?

  Week four alone had 271 accepted penalties. How many is that per game? How many games are there? Eight?

• 1:01:44Travis Kelce?

  There's 16 until the bye week.

• 1:01:45Travis Kelce?

  16 games, 271? It's a lot of calls for How many fuck? Yeah. What are we doing?

• 1:01:51Travis Kelce?

  It's over 10. I mean, I, I don't know what the average is. Either way, it's very apparent that there, there's a lot of calls right now. And it's in particular calls that are in big moments and then like calls that are taking like in our broadcast, the guy like, they're, they're kind of jostling after the play and the guy pushes them afterwards and they call personal fouls. Like dude, unless he like punches this motherfucker, can we just like calm it down? And then if it starts becoming an issue again, at a certain point, you gotta get control over. But if it's just like a one thing, I just let the boys play. Let the boys play, ref.

• 1:02:23Travis Kelce?

  I'm with you. I'm a big fan of letting the boys play. 17 touchdowns have been nullified in four full weeks of football.

• 1:02:31Travis Kelce?

  It's crazy. Nullified. And then there's also the ones like the, the defensive pass interferences that have been handed out. Like, look at the Broncos game at the end of it. Look at a, um, the Dallas one almost ended the same way. I think the, the refs should be trying to not impact the end of games. And they should feel that we should only throw this flag if somebody is way out of line. And it's like, this is a clear egregious, like committed penalty. That's my opinion on this. I just don't think the game needs to be called that tight. I don't think people want the game to be called that tight. Maybe people on Twitter who got money on the line, they wanna, and they wanna press like a fucking screenshot and be like, hey, that's a hold or he's offside.

• 1:03:14Travis Kelce?

  So fuck those people. I don't give a shit about those people. I want to watch a game that has flow. And I get to watch two dudes battle and know that, yeah, maybe somebody's gonna fucking get a leg up on a second. And that's part of the fucking game.

• 1:03:26Travis Kelce?

  I hear you, man. Flags in the pocket and more refs telling guys, fuck you. I'm with that.

• 1:03:32Travis Kelce?

  All right. That's ball topics was brought to you by Pepsi.

• 1:03:34Travis Kelce?

  Stamp of the week brought to you by American Express.

• 1:03:38Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Okay.

• 1:03:40Travis Kelce?

  We got an idea here. Do we want to completely tear apart how we do stamp of the week?

• 1:03:44Travis Kelce?

  Sure.

• 1:03:44Travis Kelce?

  We saw this tweet, um, from Trey on Twitter. Can we do a youth athlete of the week or month or a new heights top 10? You guys are like the new sports center. All right. Would you shout out to Trey?

• 1:03:59Travis Kelce?

  I like either of those. Top 10 sounds great. Although we love the time. I mean,

• 1:04:04Travis Kelce?

  Dude, it's electric. Absolutely electric. Still electric. Love that. But how about we, instead of just doing just a straight up top 10, why don't we do a blind ranking top 10? Cause that's always fun.

• 1:04:15Travis Kelce?

  All right. Yeah. Sounds good.

• 1:04:16Travis Kelce?

  All right. Well, Brandon.

• 1:04:17Travis Kelce?

  We just conveniently have 10 plays picked out already.

• 1:04:20Speaker 05

  I've got 12 plays for you, buddy. You guys get to veto, you guys can veto one each.

• 1:04:25Travis Kelce?

  Okay. We each get one veto. Okay.

• 1:04:26Speaker 05

  This is from the week of sports. It could be from anywhere.

• 1:04:28Travis Kelce?

  We got it all. We got baseball, basketball, football. It's a beautiful, yeah, it's sweet. I like it.

• 1:04:33Travis Kelce?

  All right. Hit me, Brandon.

• 1:04:34Speaker 05

  All right, let's go. We're gonna start Dallas at Houston. You boys, C D Lamb fans? Veto, cause you're about to see these nuts. My man dropped 17 receptions, 189 yards. And the go ahead touchdown on the Houston Texans. Where are we ranking C D Lamb?

• 1:04:53Travis Kelce?

  What? This is

• 1:04:54Travis Kelce?

  This is a top 10, Brandon. This is a highlight reel.

• 1:04:56Travis Kelce?

  This is just a highlight reel. We're vetoing this.

• 1:04:59Speaker 05

  No, look at that. Look at my dog.

• 1:05:02Travis Kelce?

  You get one play, Brandon. Do you know how fucking top 10 works? You don't have to play 10 videos of C D Lamb. I get one spot. You get one fucking play. What are we doing?

• 1:05:13Travis Kelce?

  At least, at least show me him like routing somebody up like that'd be, that'd be entertaining, but it's just, it's just

• 1:05:22Travis Kelce?

  Do you know how a top 10 works? No, it has nothing to do with how good of a player you are.

• 1:05:27Travis Kelce?

  Damn it. This was such a good idea until we let Brandon get, be in charge of the top 10.

• 1:05:32Speaker 05

  Veto, C D Lamb out of here, moving on. Moving on to undrafted second year wide receiver from Eastern Washington, F. D. Chisholm the third. Only two grabs, but he had the go ahead touchdown. And Bill's pass, watch the one handed grab.

• 1:05:48Travis Kelce?

  This was nasty.

• 1:05:50Travis Kelce?

  Oh, good drifting by Drake May.

• 1:05:52Travis Kelce?

  Oh.

• 1:05:56Travis Kelce?

  That's to get the lead.

• 1:05:58Speaker 05

  That is the lead.

• 1:05:59Travis Kelce?

  The game on the line.

• 1:06:00Travis Kelce?

  That's a, he o'delled it for the lead.

• 1:06:08Travis Kelce?

  I didn't even know white guys could catch the ball like that. I thought that was strictly like a black guy thing.

• 1:06:15Speaker 05

  It's frowned upon.

• 1:06:16Travis Kelce?

  I mean, this is, this has to be one or two. I don't, it does, doesn't get much better than this. This has to be one or two, right?

• 1:06:22Travis Kelce?

  Well, it's a blind, I don't remember any plays from the week better than this, seeing this. Do we give away one that early though? Do we give away one that early? All right, fuck it. I'll do it. One. Nothing can be better than that this week, right?

• 1:06:33Speaker 05

  One off the bat. Jesus.

• 1:06:36Travis Kelce?

  That was fucking nasty.

• 1:06:37Travis Kelce?

  It was incredible. And, and the circumstances.

• 1:06:40Speaker 05

  All right, we're gonna move on. Halftime at the Seattle game. We had the 2026 Corgi Cup. Look at banana running away with it. Running away with it. Banana the Corgi.

• 1:06:54Travis Kelce?

  Oh, man. I don't know if we're gonna need to veto another one, but I'll, I'll put this at 10.

• 1:06:59Travis Kelce?

  I already ruined my veto. I already ruined my veto.

• 1:07:02Speaker 05

  Look at the look back. Look at the taunt.

• 1:07:04Travis Kelce?

  I'll go 10. I'll go 10. Shout out to banana.

• 1:07:08Speaker 05

  Banana the Corgi, you're at number 10. We're gonna keep moving. I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but a miracle happened this week. The Jets after 637 days got an interception. I'm gonna show you two. Here's the first one. First one that got called back.

• 1:07:24Travis Kelce?

  Days.

• 1:07:25Speaker 05

  I honestly think this should go on the list. It's electric. It's called back. It does not count, but it is a fat man running.

• 1:07:30Travis Kelce?

  I'm, I'm all on board with that.

• 1:07:33Speaker 05

  Woo.

• 1:07:36Travis Kelce?

  Uh oh.

• 1:07:37Speaker 05

  Ah.

• 1:07:39Travis Kelce?

  Wait, I thought you said it was running.

• 1:07:41Speaker 05

  He runs enough.

• 1:07:42Travis Kelce?

  Well.

• 1:07:43Speaker 05

  Here it is. Here's some

• 1:07:44Travis Kelce?

  His feet's moved.

• 1:07:45Speaker 05

  Look at that big boy.

• 1:07:46Travis Kelce?

  It's him just celebrating.

• 1:07:51Speaker 05

  Look at everybody slowly rise. This is coming back.

• 1:07:53Travis Kelce?

  If it doesn't affect the play, please leave your goddamn flag in your pocket.

• 1:07:57Speaker 05

  Here's the actual first interception. Bang. Look at my man. Minka Fitzpatrick, first interception in 637 days. Where are you ranking it?

• 1:08:07Travis Kelce?

  I mean, he threw it right to him. So I'll probably go nine.

• 1:08:10Travis Kelce?

  I'll go the, I'll go the, the fat, I'll do the fat guy interception for at nine.

• 1:08:16Speaker 05

  Fat, we're good. Okay. Which interception you want to rank? Fat guy or the actual one?

• 1:08:19Travis Kelce?

  Fat guy.

• 1:08:20Speaker 05

  Fat guy at number nine. We're leaving football. We're going to Syracuse for some women's volleyball. This is Pitt, undefeated Pitt going to Syracuse. ACC player of the week. You'll know it when you see it.

• 1:08:34Speaker 05

  Bang!

• 1:08:34Travis Kelce?

  Oh my fucking god.

• 1:08:37Travis Kelce?

  There's no way that's real.

• 1:08:39Speaker 05

  This is it, baby. This is Olivia Babcock ACC Player of the Week.

• 1:08:44Travis Kelce?

  Holy shit. Where did she come from?

• 1:08:47Speaker 05

  Bang!

• 1:08:48Travis Kelce?

  In the words of our good friend, Rob Regal.

• 1:08:51Travis Kelce?

  Enough, man!

• 1:08:54Speaker 05

  We ranking Olivia.

• 1:08:55Travis Kelce?

  What is, what is one supposed to do in that situation?

• 1:09:03Speaker 05

  Don't let him see you, believe.

• 1:09:04Travis Kelce?

  So was that the, why are they slapping her hand? That's, she definitely lost that point, right?

• 1:09:10Speaker 05

  Well, she got up. I think they're just excited she's okay.

• 1:09:13Travis Kelce?

  Oh, see, women's sports work different than men.

• 1:09:15Travis Kelce?

  We're keeping it, we're keeping it positive.

• 1:09:17Travis Kelce?

  You gotta get your hands up, dog. What are you doing? Just letting it hit you in the face? You gotta bring it popping up. Dude, my goodness.

• 1:09:24Travis Kelce?

  That is a fucking rocket.

• 1:09:26Travis Kelce?

  Took it like a champ.

• 1:09:27Speaker 05

  Where are we ranking Olivia?

• 1:09:28Travis Kelce?

  I mean, it looks like it's fake. It doesn't even look like it's real.

• 1:09:31Travis Kelce?

  That's up there. I can give it three. I'll give it three. That was, that was epic. That was fucking epic.

• 1:09:35Speaker 05

  Next highlight, we're still not back to football. I want to highlight Minecraft Mike Tomlin. I don't know if you guys watched the whole video. I did. It's over 300 million views on YouTube. The man built a whole goddamn city.

• 1:09:51Travis Kelce?

  This guy's got some fun. Is he having an architect degree or some shit?

• 1:09:54Speaker 05

  Look at this. Look at the, look at the skylight. Look at this. You don't, don't put Mike on the table.

• 1:09:59Travis Kelce?

  Ballroom?

• 1:10:00Travis Kelce?

  Mike's the best.

• 1:10:02Travis Kelce?

  He is the best.

• 1:10:02Travis Kelce?

  We already gave it number 10. He's either nine or veto.

• 1:10:05Speaker 05

  He built, he built a ballpark.

• 1:10:08Travis Kelce?

  I get it. Yeah, this isn't a top 10 play. I gotta veto it.

• 1:10:11Travis Kelce?

  I don't get it. I don't get it.

• 1:10:12Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 1:10:14Travis Kelce?

  But it's enough to show some love to Mike. That's a, that's a hell of a city, Mike.

• 1:10:17Speaker 05

  Not a top 10 play, I guess. 3 million views on YouTube. I thought that was pretty cool. All right. Next nominee. This is a cut up. Don't get mad at me.

• 1:10:25Travis Kelce?

  God damn it, Brandon. Another one.

• 1:10:28Speaker 05

  Watch. No, I'm gonna show you the play.

• 1:10:30Travis Kelce?

  All right. You get to submit one play.

• 1:10:32Speaker 05

  Watch the third down catch.

• 1:10:34Travis Kelce?

  All right.

• 1:10:36Speaker 05

  Watch this. Woo!

• 1:10:40Travis Kelce?

  All right, all right.

• 1:10:42Travis Kelce?

  All right. That's a big time, big time catch, big time play.

• 1:10:45Speaker 05

  Watch the toes.

• 1:10:46Travis Kelce?

  Toe tap.

• 1:10:46Travis Kelce?

  Good toe drag, good toe drags.

• 1:10:48Speaker 05

  197 and two touchdowns. My god.

• 1:10:52Travis Kelce?

  Well done, well done.

• 1:10:53Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:10:54Travis Kelce?

  You want to go four or five, Trav? What are you thinking?

• 1:10:56Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I think a five. Nice five. Nice fiver.

• 1:10:59Speaker 05

  We've already watched this one, but I gotta rank it. I need to know. We're going back to London. Fat guy INT.

• 1:11:06Travis Kelce?

  Oh, this is electric.

• 1:11:07Speaker 05

  Two. Where are we putting it?

• 1:11:09Travis Kelce?

  Two.

• 1:11:09Travis Kelce?

  He said two. No, we gotta save two. We gotta save two. This is electric. Andy got the first.

• 1:11:15Travis Kelce?

  It's so good.

• 1:11:16Travis Kelce?

  Well, I'll go four. I'll go two for the Jason Kelce top 10.

• 1:11:22Travis Kelce?

  He, it would have been, I would have given him two if he wasn't so tired that he had to go off the field because he was not hurt. It was just purely not true.

• 1:11:31Speaker 05

  It's for one play. It's not for stamina.

• 1:11:33Travis Kelce?

  God damn.

• 1:11:34Travis Kelce?

  That's a big old son of a buck, man. God, god.

• 1:11:37Speaker 05

  Look at all the bodies around him. Let me find it. This is nuts. Andy, where'd you guys put it?

• 1:11:46Travis Kelce?

  If I'm a defensive player, I see offensive lineman holding the ball. I'm punching the fuck out of that ball.

• 1:11:50Travis Kelce?

  It's funny because it didn't get the whole soundbite in there, but the whole soundbite, I say like, the first thing they tell you with an offensive lineman is you don't catch shit. You bat it down or you fall on a loose ball. You're not picking up and running nothing, big guys. You got your hands all taped up. You got the elbow sleeves on, but every offensive lineman in the head is like, I'm catching that ball. There's no way. If I get that opportunity, I don't give a fuck if I fumble it or not. I'm taking that son of a bitch.

• 1:12:18Speaker 05

  All right, Brandon Coleman, you are number four. We're moving away from football again. We got another champion to talk about. Bear98, AKA Backpack, AKA the winner of the 2026 Fat Bear Week, brought to you by the Department of the Interior. The official winner of Fat Bear Week Backpack.

• 1:12:36Travis Kelce?

  What is Fat Bear Week?

• 1:12:38Speaker 05

  Fat Bear Week is you vote online to compete which fat bear you like the most. And Backpack, my guy, won.

• 1:12:44Travis Kelce?

  I do like, I mean, Fat Bear, how old is Fat Bear right there?

• 1:12:47Speaker 05

  We don't, we don't age shame here. I don't know how, Fat Bear Week's been around for a while.

• 1:12:51Travis Kelce?

  Wait, did we already do a nine?

• 1:12:53Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, we did. We did. All right, eight. We'll go eight then.

• 1:12:56Speaker 05

  We're gonna go eight. Fat Bear, number eight. I'm glad you guys used your vetoes already because we're gonna go to game one of the ALDS. We got a moonshot from our guy, Munatakaburakami. We go to the, you knew it was coming, Travis. You knew it was coming.

• 1:13:14Travis Kelce?

  He cannot veto it.

• 1:13:16Travis Kelce?

  440.

• 1:13:17Speaker 05

  Veto. Sorry, baby. We go to Japanese announcers. If you're watching this on YouTube, you will not see this highlight. Let's go to the Japanese announcers.

• 1:13:29Travis Kelce?

  Look at the ass on this Japanese banner.

• 1:13:39Speaker 05

  Electric. I'm sorry about your god. Electric.

• 1:13:43Travis Kelce?

  This guy's two. I gotta give it to him. Like, the whole, like, if you're fucking celebrating like that and then you had a homerun in the fucking next series, come on.

• 1:13:54Travis Kelce?

  I can be a fan of him and hate him at the same time, but yes.

• 1:13:58Speaker 05

  All right, we are going to go to, what do we have left on the board? We have six and seven left on the board. I'm going to go to, fuck, I got here, Jags. We got a little Travis Hunter. Um, I'm gonna find the play I want real quick.

• 1:14:14Travis Kelce?

  He was fucking all over the goddamn place.

• 1:14:16Speaker 05

  This got called back?

• 1:14:21Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:23Speaker 05

  Whoop!

• 1:14:25Travis Kelce?

  Oh, man. I'm not gonna lie, this happened to me against the Dolphins on the interception.

• 1:14:30Speaker 05

  Whoop! That was his first career interception as the Dolphins. Travis Hunter.

• 1:14:34Travis Kelce?

  I did fall. I did fall.

• 1:14:35Travis Kelce?

  Ooh!

• 1:14:36Speaker 05

  That's.

• 1:14:37Travis Kelce?

  Listen, Travis Hunter's playing some ball the other day, man.

• 1:14:39Travis Kelce?

  All right, Trav.

• 1:14:40Travis Kelce?

  He's having a good old time.

• 1:14:42Speaker 05

  Travis Hunter, shaken. T. Higgins, where are we putting it?

• 1:14:45Travis Kelce?

  We got six and seven yet left. It was, it was nasty. I'll go six. I'll go six on it.

• 1:14:50Speaker 05

  Go six. We're gonna go six. Our last highlight.

• 1:14:53Travis Kelce?

  All right, this is gonna be seven.

• 1:14:54Speaker 05

  This is number seven. We are going to go to the Kibbie Dome for the Miracle in Moscow. The winless Idaho Vandals taking on number one Montana State in the big sky. Let me find my boys.

• 1:15:09Travis Kelce?

  In big sky country. Okay, let's see it.

• 1:15:11Speaker 05

  My boys Idaho, they're down a score. This is the last gasp. We gotta heave. We gotta heave. Catch in bounds. They get one second. They get one second on the clock for a hail Mary. The Montana State coach also caught a timeout, which I don't know why he did.

• 1:15:33Travis Kelce?

  They're at the 25 yard line, Brandon. That's not a fucking hail Mary.

• 1:15:36Speaker 05

  This is a heave. In the big sky, this is a heave, Jason. In the big sky, this is, this is a heave.

• 1:15:41Travis Kelce?

  The ball travels further. They're in fucking altitude.

• 1:15:43Speaker 05

  Watch him! Bang!

• 1:15:48Travis Kelce?

  Impressive. Always good to watch that.

• 1:15:50Speaker 05

  Jason, I'm not over. It's not over. It's not over.

• 1:15:53Travis Kelce?

  I'm, I just already know that I'm very happy with this being a seven.

• 1:15:56Speaker 05

  And we're going for two. And we're going for two. The winless Idaho Vandals. Let's go, boys!

• 1:16:06Travis Kelce?

  Well done. Well done.

• 1:16:08Travis Kelce?

  That was a seven. That's a seven.

• 1:16:09Speaker 05

  That's a seven.

• 1:16:10Travis Kelce?

  Miracle in Moscow.

• 1:16:11Speaker 05

  Miracle in Moscow is a seven.

• 1:16:13Travis Kelce?

  0-4 beats 5-0. See, this is the beauty of sports.

• 1:16:16Speaker 05

  This is the beauty of sports. All right, was that fun? There's our top, let's go to the rest.

• 1:16:20Travis Kelce?

  I thoroughly enjoyed that segment.

• 1:16:21Speaker 05

  All right, that was actually way more fun than Stanford has ever been. All right. The fuck are we doing for four years? Jesus Christ. All right.

• 1:16:29Travis Kelce?

  Thank you for the idea.

• 1:16:31Speaker 05

  Starting from the bottom, Banana to the Corgi, Fat Guy INT, Tavandre Sweat. I'll give you a clean one of that. Fat Guy INT. Bear98, AKA Backpack at number eight. Miracle in Moscow at number seven. Travis Hunter, Travis Hunter at number six. McMillan sideline catch on third down at number five. Brandon Coleman's INT at four. Olivia Babcock to the face, number three. White Sox. We are all Japanese at number two. And F. D. Chisholm, one-handed tag for the win.

• 1:17:01Travis Kelce?

  We are all Japanese. That's so good.

• 1:17:03Speaker 05

  We are all Japanese.

• 1:17:05Travis Kelce?

  That does it for stamp of the week, AKA now being called, I guess, New Heights Top 10. I don't know. Brought to you by American Express.

• 1:17:15Travis Kelce?

  Thank you to our sponsor, Colgate Total.

• 1:17:18Travis Kelce?

  On offense, it's important to prevent problems from the moment the ball is snapped.

• 1:17:23Travis Kelce?

  That's true. Otherwise, you're just out there running cardio. Can't get open for a big play.

• 1:17:29Travis Kelce?

  But it's not just football. There's a lot of things you need to prevent before they start.

• 1:17:33Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, like in your mouth.

• 1:17:35Travis Kelce?

  My mouth specifically?

• 1:17:37Travis Kelce?

  I mean, probably yours too, but I'm talking everybody's mouth. There's bacteria in there that can lead to oral health problems like cavities, gingivitis.

• 1:17:48Travis Kelce?

  Right, yeah, all the nasty stuff. But the good news is you can prevent these problems before they start with Colgate Total Active Prevention. It's like having a good offensive line for your mouth.

• 1:17:59Travis Kelce?

  Ooh, exactly. With twice daily brushing, Colgate Total prevents oral health problems like cavities and gingivitis.

• 1:18:07Travis Kelce?

  And it's not just one contributing player either. It's a whole system. Toothpaste, mouthwash, and a special toothbrush.

• 1:18:15Travis Kelce?

  Now that's the squad you want fighting for your mouth.

• 1:18:17Travis Kelce?

  Colgate Total is like having a full playbook in your bathroom, working to help prevent oral health problems before they start.

• 1:18:25Travis Kelce?

  Get Colgate Total on Amazon today.

• 1:18:29Travis Kelce?

  Thank you to our partner, Pepsi.

• 1:18:32Travis Kelce?

  Ooh, it's officially football season and the penalty flags have been flying.

• 1:18:36Travis Kelce?

  That's right. Over 250 penalties were called across the NFL last week. False starts, offsides, holding, but those aren't the fouls we need to talk about.

• 1:18:44Travis Kelce?

  The real fouls are happening at your tailgates and game day parties. That's right, the flavor fouls. We're calling them flavor fouls. You're committing without even realizing you're committing them.

• 1:18:55Travis Kelce?

  You spend all week thinking about them chicken wings, the nachos, the burgers. When it's time to grab a drink, what are you reaching for?

• 1:19:03Travis Kelce?

  If your cooler isn't stocked with Pepsi Zero Sugar, that's a flag every time.

• 1:19:08Travis Kelce?

  That's right. That bold, refreshing taste makes every bite better and gives your spread the drink it deserves.

• 1:19:16Travis Kelce?

  Pair your favorite game day foods with Pepsi Zero Sugar and you'll be jumping around like your team just connected on a hail Mary.

• 1:19:23Travis Kelce?

  Grab Pepsi Zero Sugar before kickoff. Tailgating deserves Pepsi. This is the time of the show where you get to hear from the person you've been waiting to hear from all show long. Let's take it to Mr. Ben Affleck.

• 1:19:38Speaker 05

  Anna.

• 1:19:41Travis Kelce?

  Our guest today is a six foot four actor, writer, producer and director from Cambridge, Massachusetts. He is a two time Academy Award winner. You know him from Good Will Hunting, Argo, Gone Girl, Armageddon, The Town, The Accountant, and his new movie Animals. He's Tom Brady's go to practice receiver. He's a Who Wants to be a Millionaire Champion and making his second appearance on New Heights, 92%ers. Please welcome back Ben Affleck. What an intro. I feel like I should be like going into the octagon right now. Not gonna get my ass kicked, which is nice.

• 1:20:22Travis Kelce?

  All right. Let's go, baby. Six foot, I got the height.

• 1:20:29Travis Kelce?

  We're doing it good. We're doing it right.

• 1:20:30Travis Kelce?

  Tail or tail. Guys, I love it, man. Animals, dude. Fun, fun follow, man. Appreciate you letting us screen it a little bit, man. And Ben Affleck, the politician, baby. Let's go, man.

• 1:20:43Travis Kelce?

  Independent, the independent. Independent.

• 1:20:49Travis Kelce?

  But yeah, I would say the experience with that was like, that is not a life that you want. Like the, I did one day where, you know, I wanted to create, like, start the movie, like, with a, you know, like those commercials that you see when they all go out and shake hands and, you know, like, everybody loves me and I'm out in the town and all that shit. And I just was like, fuck it, let's just go out with a camera and, and Steven Yeun, who's playing my campaign manager, a bunch of T-shirts, and we'll just go around and I'll just say, like, I'm running for mayor. And I thought, maybe we'll get a little bit of stuff. I swear to God, nobody said anything. They were like, oh, cool. And by the way, it's like, the name is Mark Kimball, and people are still just like, oh, yeah, we'll vote for you. Sure.

• 1:21:35Travis Kelce?

  I'm like, what do you want to change in Los Angeles? And they fucking go off on their tirade? You know what I mean? You're gonna vote for me? Yeah, to get a picture? Sure. Here's a hat. I'm like, I guess that's all it takes. That's all it is. By the way, after a day of grinding out, like, just, it felt like one of those, like, I don't know, like, you know, those like comp, but convention, signing convention or something where you're just, at the end of it, like, you know, just so, it's like more exhausting than, like, actually working out, you know, just the energy and the schmooze and the grind. I just thought like, this is a life that is, I don't know, not, not, not, not for me.

• 1:22:12Travis Kelce?

  I hear you.

• 1:22:13Travis Kelce?

  No, that makes a ton of sense. But and how crazy is it that people are like, I'm wondering, I'm, because we have an election for mayor in LA, like, I'm thinking maybe my guy might get written in.

• 1:22:30Travis Kelce?

  No, no, no, no. That's too funny. Yeah. You don't realize how much that, that nonstop, if you don't rest the mind, man, their mind could just get fucking racing and you can feel even more exhausted after a day just by letting the mind race around.

• 1:22:42Travis Kelce?

  Just like having a kind of, you know, and, and. It's being in that mode, right? Like, it's like you're, you're, you're, you're on and you know, you're trying to be a certain person. And also that, like, trying to sell. You feel, I feel like a car salesman, you know what I mean? Like, the grip and grand, and how are you gonna do, hey, how, who do you, can we have your vote? And like, you're constantly kind of, feels like you're reaching in people's pockets all the time, sort of, and the, and trying to get this, like, make something that's not really authentic, sort of look authentic. And, you know, there's always like, luckily, since I'm not a real politician and wasn't, don't really have any positions, there could be nobody, still, there's people that were looking at me like, I'm not voting for you.

• 1:23:32Travis Kelce?

  Did you see a couple of those guys, like, looking back in the background, like, I hope he comes over here, I'll tell him to fuck himself. I'm not vibing this guy. That's hilarious.

• 1:23:42Travis Kelce?

  That is so good.

• 1:23:43Travis Kelce?

  I mean, yeah, it just feels like a politician, it's everything's so transactional, right? Like, every, every interaction is like, what can I get from this person? Or what do they want from me? Like? Yeah. And when I'm gonna promise you something, it's like, ooh, you're promising everybody, everything you can do for them, people, you know? And it's like, yeah, it's that thing of, now I get my, my, give you a hat. It's so kind of, it is, we got into this thing that's like, what am I gonna get? You know? I don't know, man. What do you want? It's all fake, bro. I can't do anything. You know what I mean? I got nothing to really fucking give you. This is an act. I can't believe everybody's going along with it. Like, I'm not gonna be mayor, I hope.

• 1:24:21Travis Kelce?

  This is so good. It would have been epic to see, man. You've obviously won an Academy Award for directing and starring. How big of a difference is it knowing that you gotta do both? Like, I know it, it sounds like it's just an impossible feat, but you've done it at the, at the, at the pinnacle before. Were there any, like, differences or anything, any difficulties this time around?

• 1:24:45Travis Kelce?

  I, I wonder, you know, because I've heard people make the analogy to, like, player coach, you know, which you know, you see in, you see a little bit in baseball, you know what I mean? I guess you've seen in basketball, maybe, has there been basketball head coaches that were players? Like, I figure that must, maybe they're former players.

• 1:25:03Travis Kelce?

  Jackie Moon? Yeah, there you go.

• 1:25:04Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, Jackie.

• 1:25:05Travis Kelce?

  Mario Lemieux, Mario Lemieux over in hockey. He's there.

• 1:25:08Travis Kelce?

  Right, right. And definitely, like, you know, Pete Rose was a player coach, you know, there's a, right, you know, part of it is kind of like, it's a little bit of a weird thing, because like, you're starting yourself, obviously, you know what I mean? And, and also, it's, it's, it's, it's a kind of putting on two, two hats. But for me, actually, I feel like I didn't really get kind of confident or really good, in my opinion, at acting, till I really started directing, and it gave me this other point of view, which, which I think maybe is analogous across other things, where you're like, if you're just in there and you're just doing your job, sometimes it's hard to see how that connects with what everyone else is sort of doing and, and the big picture stuff. And so when I sort of stepped out and

• 1:25:53Travis Kelce?

  started directing, all of a sudden, a lot of things became like, much more clear about sort of, what was helpful, what worked, what things to fight on, what things are like, you know, gonna kind of go down this direction. And, you know, it's probably is analogous to a head coach, like, at a certain point, you know, we're gonna run these plays, you gotta be running these plays. You can't, you know, you can't be on your own team, really, you know, making movies is a, a team sport. It's not like, you know, you're not a novelist, you're not a sculptor, you're not on your own. Like, and if, if everyone's not on the same page, you know, you got a real problem. If people are in their own, their own movies, and all of a sudden, you're like, okay, this is like a, a big comedy, and this guy's in a tragedy over here. And so for me, the, the best part about it was like, I kind of approached

• 1:26:36Travis Kelce?

  directing from, you know, how as an actor would I want the set to be? Because I'm a big believer in, honestly, like, and I use a metaphor a lot, that, that with sports, not that I'm a, you know, professional athlete, or even a semi-professional, or even sub semi amateur, but nonetheless, what I imagine is, like, you perform well when you're basically relaxed. Like, if, if, if your heart's cortisol, your heart's not pounding, and you, you get tight, like, you're gonna make mistakes, you're gonna second get, I mean, you see it, I mean, even in New England, seeing right now, maybe that, like, that, like, how come all of a

• 1:27:15Travis Kelce?

  sudden, the performance is changing, like, mental errors? That's obviously, to me, about, I think that's what was, you mentioned Tom, like, what, I think his great gift was just not getting tight. Yeah. Super Bowl, it's the fourth quarter, and he's basically making decisions like he would be making, you know, in a low stress environment. And everyone else is like, I can't fuck up. I bet, what's gonna, this is it. Like, it's all led to this, that, that makes you anxious. And as an actor, that's the word, all of a sudden, it looks fake. The whole point is to take a whole fucking make believe operation, where everyone's faking it, it's not real, this isn't happening. And you're trying to get an audience to watch it and forget that, and actually believe that what you're showing them is real. So

• 1:27:56Travis Kelce?

  you need to have people be relaxed and at ease. And if they actually feel like, I can do anything I want, but I'm, I'm choosing to sort of say the lines and do this, that, that's sort of the best. And so my approach has always been to try to create that atmosphere for people where they feel like, you know, they can do what they want. Like, I, I learned this a long time ago in this movie called Dazed and Confused, where the director said, like, hey, everybody, like, write your own stuff. If this is just my script, this finished, it's gonna be an underachievement. So people felt like they could bring something to it. You know, you could raise your hand, you go, how about this? It wasn't just, okay, you know, here's the slate, and now we're acting and say the lines exactly, because that, that looks like a mayonnaise commercial, you know, you're kind of like.

• 1:28:38Travis Kelce?

  Fucking hate mayonnaise commercials, man.

• 1:28:41Travis Kelce?

  It's like, it's, it's interesting, because I've, I've been directing commercials and, and a lot of times, like, you know, we have athletes or coaches or whatever on, and what I find with guys that don't do it, is like, they, they're great, they can be great if you just relax. Like, no, no, no, forget about the lines, forget about how you're supposed to stand it, forget all that shit. Like, who you are is interesting and cool, and like, if you can actually just relax, be yourself, it comes across great. It's like, when it's bad is when, you know, it's like, you know, one of those old, like, I remember I saw, there was an old, I love Roger Clemens, great pitcher, brought me a lot of many happy, happy days. But I remember he had a commercial where he was like, hey, man, I'm trying to

• 1:29:21Travis Kelce?

  strike this guy out. And I was like, I know he doesn't talk like that. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta do, or like, remember the Nolan Ryan commercial? For those aches and pains, I'll take ad bill.

• 1:29:35Travis Kelce?

  That is so good.

• 1:29:36Travis Kelce?

  The Dunkin commercials are fucking legendary, dude. Yes. Every year, man, they're so fucking legendary. You got Bill, you got Belichick to look relaxed up there, man.

• 1:29:45Travis Kelce?

  It wasn't easy.

• 1:29:48Travis Kelce?

  Is this motherfucker gonna yell at me? You know what I mean? It was like, I was like, so Bill, I thought maybe you'd like, just me, he was like, okay. Thought he was gonna be like, on to Cincinnati.

• 1:30:02Travis Kelce?

  It was pretty, you know, it's, it's interesting, because like, you know, actors, in the movies, everybody's like, you know, the sports world's, is like, that's what actors think is like special and cool. That's what's like intimidating. You know what I mean? You guys do.

• 1:30:15Travis Kelce?

  Vice versa, vice versa.

• 1:30:17Travis Kelce?

  Maybe, but I know that we're just all sitting on the couch, knowing that we're, we're going out there and faking everything, and these motherfuckers are playing for real. Hey, sometimes, hey, sometimes, though, the best ones find a way to fake you when they need to fake you. They, they're, I used to hate the guy that would give fake energy, and then you're in a game, and there's no. Energy and you're like, hey, man, somebody start faking some energy. I need some energy.

• 1:30:39Travis Kelce?

  I need somebody to spark something. You already know, I'd be the first one to start motherfucking and starting trying to get everybody hyped. Throw a chair, throw a chair, throw a helmet, started, start to create some rage.

• 1:30:51Travis Kelce?

  Got to make a difference, right? I mean, I remember I met Ray Lewis, who was probably the more like that dude was like the most impressive, physical. He was like, nice to meet you.

• 1:31:04Travis Kelce?

  I'm cool.

• 1:31:07Travis Kelce?

  I don't want no problems. I don't want no problems.

• 1:31:09Travis Kelce?

  I was like, this dude could actually break me in half. And I'm like, you know what I mean? He just was like, I'm like, how are you three times the size of a normal man and every like that guy? I remember asking Brady, like, play against like Ray.

• 1:31:23Travis Kelce?

  We just don't throw over there.

• 1:31:26Travis Kelce?

  It just doesn't make sense, you know, some that that level of exposure in the NFL is where it's like, that would be, you need some energy to get out there.

• 1:31:37Travis Kelce?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:31:38Travis Kelce?

  I mean, we're talking about energy and you brought up like what's happening in New England a little bit right there. And I just like, it does feel like the energy is just off. Like this kid was so good last year, was so poised, like up for MVP discussions and the playoffs happen. Yeah, off to a terrible start to start the season, but it does feel like it's just like, there's no swagger. There's no confidence. There's no, is there things that could just mentioned in like the acting, like are there tools you guys use to like get an actor back on track or yourself back? Like, what do you do when it feels like that? There's definitely tools that I use, like in a, in a different context, like for example, some of the situations that I've run into are like,

• 1:32:18Travis Kelce?

  because the hardest thing to do in a movie, actually, or television show is to come on like for one day and have like a few lines. That's harder than being the lead. You don't get in a rhythm. That's interesting. You show up, you know, you've been doing, you got your three lines, you've read them 10,000 times. I do want a hot dog. I, I want a hot dog. And it's like, it's not making sense. You know what I mean? And you get there and a couple of times I've had guys just have this crazy thing happen where they forgot the line. And then they started getting afraid that they weren't going to remember the line and after maybe they go again and they just.

• 1:32:53Travis Kelce?

  No way.

• 1:32:54Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. And they just couldn't, couldn't cut. It's the, oh yeah, right. Okay. You want a hot dog? And what happens is you can see it. It's just a vicious cycle. The panic starts and the fear. And if that I'm in front of everybody and, and you just go like, you realize that that is a death spiral that is a little like an airplane. Once you get too steep into it, you can't pull out. What I can do, what you can't do in, in, in pro sports, I just like, okay, everybody leave. First of all, just anybody who's not involved, just leave. Chill. It's just going to be me and you. Put the camera here and I just turn it on and leave. And then I like talk through the scene and I'm like, do you need cue cards? We'll put up cue cards. Like you gotta know, okay, you won't forget it. And eventually, you know, and sometimes you even have to go, I'm just gonna give you the line, give it back. I'll give it to you, give it back. I'll say,

• 1:33:39Travis Kelce?

  and sometimes you even get to a point where, you know, where you'll say like, log onto the zoom link for the new heights podcast. Uh, log on and it's like something in their brain. You, you know, the person as soon as they walk out the door is going to remember everything. And that's where that's that phenomena of stress, the fear of failure, and then that horrible feeling of I'm failing. And it's a disaster. Like clearly that's a part of it. Drake May is not, uh, you, you see how good a quarterback the guy is. You see what he's capable of doing. It's not like he's all of a sudden, his skills have changed, right? Like, right? And I don't know what the, what the tools are. I think part of it has to be that confidence is you build on it, right?

• 1:34:23Travis Kelce?

  And negative confidence takes you the other way. Uh, and it doesn't, honestly, it doesn't help. New England's a very hard place to play. Like I can remember getting so mad when the globe would be like, fucking like beating the shit out of like Pedro Martinez. I'm like, why are you shitting on?

• 1:34:41Travis Kelce?

  And why are you writing articles about what asshole he is? Like write that about the Yankees. You know what I mean? It's like, there, like I saw a headline the other day. It was like Drake, maybe not. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah.

• 1:34:56Travis Kelce?

  Man, you know what I mean? Like, who are you rooting for? It's like, uh, but it's an example of like, you know, people expect a lot. They pay their tickets. New England got obviously spoiled, but the truth is they were like that before. New England fans were like that when I was growing up and you couldn't even watch the games on TV because they weren't selling out at Fox, but they blacked it out. You know what I mean? And there's still people are like, Amy, you suck. Steve Grogan, fuck you. You know, it was like, that's kind of the vibe. But the flip side of that is like, people show up, they show up at the games, they're, they're informed, they're dedicated, they care.

• 1:35:26Travis Kelce?

  They're hoping you do good and they're looking for you to do good. And you just gotta keep it in that positive mindset.

• 1:35:32Travis Kelce?

  We had a, for a full year with Chip Kelly, they brought in these coaches and like mental conditioning coaches and the whole thing, they're like, how to avoid thinking negatively, how to think positively. And we went through this week by week and these guys are awesome. I actually really liked some of the like, like little tools and whatnot. It was a complete disaster. We, you guys are like, dude, guys, the guys just wanted this. You'd sit, you would sit in the room and they'd be like, okay, don't think negative thoughts. And then we'd leave the room. I'd be like, all right, what'd you guys think? It's like, dude, I've never thought so many negative thoughts in my life.

• 1:36:05Travis Kelce?

  I've never even thought about failure and now I'm talking more now.

• 1:36:10Travis Kelce?

  If I tell you, don't think about pink elephants. All of a sudden you're like, no, no pink elephant. But now I can't stop thinking about it. That's where I think, you know, you gotta be.

• 1:36:22Travis Kelce?

  Where'd you get your like expertise and positive thinking? You know, who, what's the criteria for that? I don't know, but it's, it is a, it is a thing where you kind of like, you know, cause your broadcasters, after a while you start to be like, how much bullshit are we going to listen to about like the mental toughness, you know? There's really is something to that. I, I think probably a lot of guys in, in, in pro sports and women who play like they, they have spent their life building that up already. Yes. For the most part, like you guys aren't getting to where you're at. If you're gonna, you know, a little bit of a setback is going to cause you to collapse and doubt yourself. I mean, and that's why some of it, like you see guys will like, you know, oh, look at the high stepping and the ego. It's like, yeah,

• 1:37:05Travis Kelce?

  that, that comes from needing to feel like you are the greatest. So you believe you're going to be great. I understand that, right? It's fun and the crowds like it and everything. And I think that's why people probably cultivate some of that. And there's, there's certainly a lot of ego in, in, in my business too. And, and a lot of times what I, my approach to it is kind of like ego or weird behavior or whatever. And I'm always like, whatever this you need to do to get to where you need to go. What happens when we show, if you're here and we're shooting and you're great, I could give fuck what your thing is, what you're doing, what you're talking to yourself like. I really don't even need that, you know, it's, it really is a, a performance based thing and people have their own tools and tricks.

• 1:37:46Travis Kelce?

  And, um, you know, I think what happens is it's, that's where you get the like youth, right? You're really young. Drake's what 22 or something like that, like. Yeah. 20, probably 24 or something. Yeah. That's, uh, early on to get that much pressure to go from a place where, cause it's a weird thing that I think is hard to really understand what it feels like. To feel like the whole world is looking at you all of a sudden, right? Like I see it with people who, who are actors and they're, they're kicking around, they're doing their job, they're doing their thing. Then they, they get this part or whatever it is. And all of a sudden you feel like you're, you're famous overnight, right?

• 1:38:26Travis Kelce?

  Like the experience of that and what that changes and some people, they say some people stop developing at the point they get famous. Or, or the people will say, no, it just makes you more of who you already are. Whatever it does, it's a lot, right? And it takes another period of adjustment. I think, and like is certainly was, uh, you know, a, a struggle for me to, to try to get some perspective and figure it out. I was lucky because I had a guy I grew up with in my hometown who get, who's like, I could sit down with him, like, is this fucking crazy?

• 1:39:01Travis Kelce?

  Keep you in reality and a lot of that stuff takes you out of reality and puts you in a place that you aren't really because of the day by day. But if you have people around you that can keep you in reality and keep you, you know, I mean, checked and things are going, okay. I was going to say, because you won at such a young age, uh, you've got a lot of recognition at a young age. How did, how did you necessarily deal with all that?

• 1:39:25Travis Kelce?

  It really was the fact that like Matt and I were friends and I could have those kinds of conversations and I knew like, you know, we like, it was, it was young. I was 24, four years old, 24, 25 and, and like a year earlier, you know, eight, six months earlier, like I'm standing outside a club at the rope and can't get in. You know what I mean? And trying to wait or whatever it is like at the bar, like I'm not, nobody's trying to come up and talk to me, you know, no girls are trying to be nice to me. And I'm like, okay, when it happens that fast, it's all of a sudden it's different. I'm like, okay, I, I didn't become somebody really different in the last week.

• 1:40:05Travis Kelce?

  I know it doesn't have to do totally with that, but you kind of need, you do need the people around you are like, you know, a little bit of, um, you know, they say, there's this story. I remember I read in the script. I don't think it ever got made. It was about, and this is the most extreme example, but it was saying how like Caesar used to ride in like a chariot through Rome and all the people would be cheering. And he, they had one person standing right behind him who was just whispering in his ear, remember you're only a man.

• 1:40:33Travis Kelce?

  Okay, you know, crazy, but yeah.

• 1:40:39Travis Kelce?

  Also like, you know, you make it to do the emperor. It's like, you want a little bit of, you know, you need a little bit of that. Honestly, to me, the, the interesting thing about, yes, you need to have like that confidence and ego and sense of, of, of purpose and, and that you can succeed. But in my experience in this job, I think about like directors and actors and the, and writers, like the people who I really respect, who I think are like great, who I want to be like, who I admire. They tend to actually have much more humility than you expect. They're like, yeah, this is what I think. I don't know. I could be wrong. You know what I mean? Like you know that it's, you know, nobody has all the answers. They, they're able to acknowledge the place where they're not sure. But then it's like, no, I'm pretty confident about this. And you figure out, okay, that's probably right.

• 1:41:25Travis Kelce?

  Could not agree more. I think it's more like they're humble about not having the answer.

• 1:41:30Travis Kelce?

  But they're not anxious about not having the answer, right? They're like, listen, I'm comfortable that I don't know this. Let's go figure it out. Like I'm, we're gonna, I feel confident that we'll get there.

• 1:41:38Travis Kelce?

  It took me like three movies, maybe four as a director until I could get to the set and go, honestly, I'm not sure what to do here. What do you guys think? Just that much? Cause I couldn't show that. I thought I had, you know, had to have the, and to actually realize I'm surrounded by really brilliant people. And they all want this to work. And where I just frankly had enough confidence in my own that that didn't threaten me and make me feel where I like, what do you guys? And then I'm like, holy shit. When you start asking people what they think, they're coming in, they're like, great. Oh, it's a real team. Okay. Here's my idea. Here's my, you know, this. And that's like, that all collects to the, you know, you realize it's, I really think it's gotta be the same with, with team sports. Like you win the championship, everyone has a ring, you know? Yeah.

• 1:42:21Travis Kelce?

  It's now this play, that play, this catch. At the end of the day, you did it, you did it together. You really did. And that's what you want. You get too focused on like your shit, your numbers, your thing, how you're gonna look. You know, I don't think that's the best actually rest. Why you see sometimes like, I think big stars, whether a movie or sports teams or whatever, where, okay, yeah, I can see that person's great. But the whole thing, the whole team, the whole movie, whatever it is, isn't itself great. Uh, you know?

• 1:42:50Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, absolutely. Hundred percent, man. Listen, we, uh, we gotta, we gotta get to the last segment we always hit. Um, we gotta ask, uh, but you don't have to answer. You tell us to fuck off. But we were talking actually pre-show, uh, about kidnapping movies and which one was the greatest, knowing that animals is a, is about, you know?

• 1:43:09Travis Kelce?

  Kidnapping, yep.

• 1:43:14Travis Kelce?

  If the shit's in the trailer, we're pretty good with telling people.

• 1:43:20Travis Kelce?

  Do you have any favorites just off the top of your mind, uh, in terms of kidnapping movies?

• 1:43:27Travis Kelce?

  I mean, the classic one that really comes to mind that I remember from my kind of snout child or whatever. But it's like, I remember like a big, always big Mel Gibson fan from these, so he did that movie ransom, you know? And I remember there was always the one shot thing where it's like, give me back my son. It was like one line and shit. He was so committed to it. I was like, fuck it. I'm gonna see this movie. This motherfucker wants his son back.

• 1:43:51Travis Kelce?

  And there's the other great line was Liam Neeson, I think in Taken where he's like, I'm a man who spent his life developing a set of skills and now you fucked with me. And I'm gonna take these skills and whatever that monologue was, you were like, these kidnappers are fucked.

• 1:44:06Travis Kelce?

  Oh dude, you, everybody knows it. Everybody knows it.

• 1:44:10Travis Kelce?

  So I guess that's the first two that I, that come to mind.

• 1:44:12Travis Kelce?

  Jason had a funny one. Jason, go ahead and hit him with it. What? Commando or which one? Commando. That was the one, yeah.

• 1:44:21Travis Kelce?

  I didn't even remember that was a kidnapping. That was Arnold with guns killing guys.

• 1:44:26Travis Kelce?

  It's about, it's about an hour and 15 minutes of Arnold just recklessly killing people in five minutes of a kidnapping.

• 1:44:34Travis Kelce?

  That's right. There was a kidnapping earlier.

• 1:44:38Travis Kelce?

  I'm so sorry that kidnapped my, my third cousin.

• 1:44:43Travis Kelce?

  An hour in, he realizes, oh yeah, I gotta go get my daughter.

• 1:44:46Travis Kelce?

  I even forgot about my daughter. I love those movies. I love Arnold. He's, uh, how can, I mean Terminator, like I was, he's just a legend.

• 1:44:56Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, yeah. Okay. When you do a streaming movie, do you miss going to do the DVD commentary? Because iconic at that? Like, is that something that you kinda?

• 1:45:06Travis Kelce?

  I love that shit. I know, you know, I, none of them really do that kind of thing anymore. And, uh, yeah, like I had one, I did. When I was young, like too young and fucking stupid to know any better. I did this commentary for a movie Armageddon. And for some reason I had it in my mind that like, can you imagine? It's like a guy playing on a sports team and then going out and be like, I don't know what the fuck the coach is talking about. I don't know what we were doing. I just went out there and said, like, I was like, I don't really think the movie made that much sense. You know what I mean?

• 1:45:39Travis Kelce?

  I don't know why I thought that was cool or like I wouldn't get fired. Like what the fuck is, I want to tell myself, it's like I feel like my son now, like what the fuck are you thinking was gonna happen when you did that? And I always remember I'm like, I was still like that in my twenties, you know, no sense of like what might happen and shit. You know what I mean? But it was,

• 1:45:58Travis Kelce?

  Of course.

• 1:45:58Travis Kelce?

  It was fun. I loved it, man. I loved the, uh, and I think there is a, it'd be funny to do like, cause you'd have to wait like 10 years to get guys to come back and be like, all right, now we're gonna tell the truth. All right. This, this was fucked up. We knew this was bad. We were trying to make, you know what I mean? Like that would be fun.

• 1:46:14Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta ask you, where did, where on earth did you get these costumes for the kids in animals?

• 1:46:21Travis Kelce?

  That was supposed to be like, honestly, from my son's like obsessed with Fortnite, right? Like playing Fortnite all the time.

• 1:46:28Travis Kelce?

  Nice, nice.

• 1:46:29Travis Kelce?

  Play like, you know, I try, I always play games and I try to like, I play like first person shooter games from like, so I think I'm good and shit, you know? I mean, you're trying to fuck around and get on and then like 12 year olds just fuck you up. You know what I mean? I try to come out and I'm like, here I come. I get killed right away and then they taunt you and shit like, you suck.

• 1:46:49Travis Kelce?

  I ended up getting in arguments. Fuck you. I don't suck. I'm a grown man.

• 1:46:55Travis Kelce?

  But anyways, my son, I was kinda like, you know, he's knew you're getting old when you're like, he's going through the skins and shit. And he's like, oh, that's tough. I'm like, is that tough? Dude's wearing a bunny hat and a fuck. He's got a tutu on and like, I don't, is this, this is what's the cool, all right, you know, like, so I just thought like these costumes are kinda so random and kind of unusual. That that's what I based the costumes on. Cause I thought he'd be like getting them off like game skates. Cause, cause this is my son when he like, he's like for Christmas, can you get me these real skins for Fortnite? But they're 300 bucks. I'm like for cost, they didn't even real just to wear in the game. Like he's like limited edition. Like that's bullshit.

• 1:47:31Travis Kelce?

  These dudes are getting, they're getting so much cash off of that fucking game.

• 1:47:36Travis Kelce?

  I know. Like a limited edition, they could just put it back out. Like, no, it just came with the one edition of Xbox in 2012.

• 1:47:45Travis Kelce?

  That's hilarious. Well, that makes all the sense in the world now for sure. It definitely feels like a Fortnite. And I feel you, dude. I brought, I brought the N64 back. Obviously I don't have any kids, but I got kids that were, that I got players on the team that were born after 2000. So they don't even really know what an N64 is, what VHS is.

• 1:48:04Travis Kelce?

  So, so I actually went out and got like a little, uh, 13 inch TV with the VCR already in it. One of the old like Panasonic joints. And I plugged it in in my locker. So we, I got, uh, N64 and VHS is playing all day.

• 1:48:18Travis Kelce?

  Honestly, it brings back nostalgia, man. It's just kinda like, I like just kinda having it on there. I, I won't sit there and watch a whole movie, but to see a scene here and there from some of the old, old movies from the eighties and nineties.

• 1:48:29Travis Kelce?

  It does remind you of like, and you're like, damn, we used to watch movies like, it's like 720p, you know, you're like, now it's like 200 bucks. You get a 65 inch flat screen. You know what I mean? And you're like, damn, my dad had an 11 inch black and white TV. I remember, cause he was a bookie. The first time we got a color TV, he was like, you can thank Steve Grogan and all these fucking idiots that bet on the Patriots.

• 1:48:57Travis Kelce?

  I was like, all right, cool. I guess being a bookie is cool. I don't know.

• 1:49:02Travis Kelce?

  We got a TV and a washing machine. I'm like, oh my gosh. But yeah, man. I always wanted to ask you guys a question like, cause I, I play, you know, Madden and 2K all the time. And like, I wonder like, do you guys like, this is kind of a real fair, you guys play Madden and like play your teams and fucker didn't like check how good?

• 1:49:21Travis Kelce?

  Are you kidding me? I do the My Player. I don't even tell, I don't even use My Person in the, I'm like, that dude isn't good enough. I want to fucking be a 99 overall. I want to be the fucking, and I want to have 99 speed. I don't know why.

• 1:49:33Travis Kelce?

  That's what my son does. He creates these.

• 1:49:34Travis Kelce?

  I want to have a fucking juggernaut, dude.

• 1:49:37Travis Kelce?

  I'm like, you create these dudes that are 99 everything and you win every game by 70 points. Why is that fun?

• 1:49:42Travis Kelce?

  It's electric.

• 1:49:43Travis Kelce?

  Dominate.

• 1:49:47Travis Kelce?

  I get so into it. We were like, I was, I, I, you know, also play like 2K all the time. And I, and we went out and was like, ran into Russell Westbrook. It was like a real, it's a good dude. Number four. And I saw, my son was like, I play you all the time in 2K. That's how he knows this. You know what I mean? Like, like to me, I'm like, I saw Russell Westbrook play. I understood. But like, it kind of, it's kind of cool in a way. Cause it brings back also like, oh, you know, players from other eras and shit. And I'm always like, oh no, Larry Bird right now. He would be creepy. Like Larry Bird would suck.

• 1:50:21Travis Kelce?

  He's slow as hell on the game.

• 1:50:24Travis Kelce?

  Anything that's not the contemporary guy, like from another era of football, basketball, is like, you could never do it now. Yeah. How are we gonna settle this bet? You know what I mean? Well, I guess there's the 2K, but then he's like, no, no, this is fucked up. Kareem's too good in this game.

• 1:50:36Travis Kelce?

  This isn't accurate. All right. Well, we got one more. You're welcome. The Hollywood moment.

• 1:50:43Travis Kelce?

  Have one?

• 1:50:46Travis Kelce?

  I got a lot of them, but I don't know how many I can shag to tell you guys. We're just, I mean, it's a very surreal world. I guess I could tell you, one of the, the most welcome, I was like, not necessarily one moment, but like, I had a period of time, as you point out, like where I, I got successful really young. And I did some movies and then I was kind of like, because as an actor, you're just,

• 1:51:11Travis Kelce?

  it stays with people. I don't think you appreciate this. You have this sense of like, I, the next job, like nothing's permanent. You don't have a, there's no tenure, there's no go watch, there's no seniority. Like if people don't see your movie, like that's it. Phone stops ringing. And so when I got successful, I just did one movie after another as fast as I could, scared that it was going to go away. And ironically, kind of became a self fulfilling prophecy. Because I had a couple of movies in a row that just bombed. And all of a sudden, like, I, I wasn't cool. Nobody wants to see my movies. And I kind of couldn't get a job. And what I experienced was like, all these people who I really thought was like studio heads or other cool people, whatever it was, who I thought were my friends,

• 1:51:53Travis Kelce?

  who I talked, you know, like, didn't want to talk to me, wouldn't return my calls, like kind of avoided me. And I realized like, oh, okay. Like that was the Hollywood moment where I was like, this is, people really aren't your friends. Like a lot of these are not, I got my friends. That's not what this is. This is something else and doesn't mean it's bad or wrong. It just means that I need to understand what a lot of this is based on. Like if being next to you makes you cool or makes you look good or can get you something, then people will want to do that. And if it doesn't, fuck you. You know, is the truth. And when it came back, it took me a few years. That's when I started directing and I was like, okay, I'm gonna really, you know, try to get back into some of my own terms.

• 1:52:36Travis Kelce?

  If I'm going to fail, at least I want it to be on my, my own terms, my, my own idea of what's good. And after the second movie that I directed, um, that I was in, you know, came out. I remember talking to my agent and I was like, because that, it was like in those days, you know, that Saturday morning, you knew what the reviews were and you knew if the movie was going to be a hit or not, basically. And I, at like noon on Saturday, I got like 10 phone calls from people that I had heard from in, you know, three, four years. And I was telling my agent, like, can you fucking believe this? Look at all that. And he was like, hey, we're going to welcome back all our old friends. And I was like, okay, you know what I mean? Like, it's not about that. Like, you know, the whole, the gru, it's just, just understand what it is. Don't get this, don't get overinflated

• 1:53:21Travis Kelce?

  and don't get yourself too, you know what I mean? Like kind of keep us even keel and sort of know where you are, even if the world is one day treating you one way and one day treating you another. You can't be attached to that or, you know, it'll, it'll make you crazy.

• 1:53:35Travis Kelce?

  That's such a real, yeah, that's such a like real life lesson right there, dog.

• 1:53:40Travis Kelce?

  It's true, man. Like you got friends, you got family, you know who that is and other people, great. And they're nice and you may have great work relationships and maybe you make a real friendship along the way. You can only have so many real friends, right? Like, because what does that mean? That means like, you, they're there for you and it means you're there for them too. That's the person you leave the house for at 2 a.m. That's the, you know, like, we have the bandwidth to, to be there for our family and our close friends, but, and then, okay, some other people are acquaintances or work relationships and, and you know, and, and how the world reflects back at you, you know, especially I think now, whereas the, so much social media, this is so prevalent that you're getting all these images all the time. And I think it can fuck you up if

• 1:54:22Travis Kelce?

  you don't kind of develop your own internal sort of like.

• 1:54:26Travis Kelce?

  In that reality, man. Hell yeah. I'm, I'm right there with you, man.

• 1:54:29Travis Kelce?

  That is gold right there.

• 1:54:30Travis Kelce?

  We can't thank you enough. Every fucking time is a banger, dude. We gotta get you on a third time now, man. We gotta get you a third time now.

• 1:54:37Travis Kelce?

  Matt just came in and he was like, oh, you're doing that? That's the best. I just did that.

• 1:54:44Travis Kelce?

  He was like, you guys are awesome. So you guys are the best. Thank you very much.

• 1:54:47Travis Kelce?

  Everybody go check out Animals on Netflix, October 9th. 92%ers, Ben Affleck.

• 1:54:55Travis Kelce?

  All right.

• 1:55:00Travis Kelce?

  Dude's electric though, man. Every conversation we have with him, man, it's like, I like get like a bolt of energy, man. Such a good dude.

• 1:55:06Travis Kelce?

  Absolutely. All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Ben Affleck. Check out Animals on Netflix, October 9th. Also, a lot of you sent us feedback for our best NFL team by state clip. Well, people want to know how Jason forgot Pennsylvania. I don't even know what we're talking about. What clip is this?

• 1:55:28Speaker 05

  Best NFL team if you only took players from certain states. We put that out on social. People are lighting all of us up.

• 1:55:35Travis Kelce?

  Listen, I love PA, but they own.

• 1:55:36Speaker 05

  We forgot a lot of names. PA has Nameth, Marino, Unitas, Montana, Bradshaw.

• 1:55:42Travis Kelce?

  Don't care. Don't care.

• 1:55:43Travis Kelce?

  They got some QBs for sure, but.

• 1:55:45Speaker 05

  Also, people are pointing out that I have a Pat cardboard. Yes, I do. Somebody has a Travis cardboard cutout, which I did not know these existed, which I'll have to get one.

• 1:55:53Travis Kelce?

  I want the Jimmy Haslam cardboard cutout. We're doing major league style until the Browns fucking make the playoffs. This is every year.

• 1:56:00Speaker 05

  Taking a note. It's happening. All right. Let's get, let's get out of here, boys.

• 1:56:04Travis Kelce?

  Once again, New Heights, a wondery show brought to you by Allstate. You're in good hands with Allstate. Follow the show on all social media. Add New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. Uh, shout out to our New Heights production team for making us look good and getting those clips, uh, out to you guys throughout the week on socials. And thank you again to the 92%ers for always tuning in. We'll see you guys next week.

• 1:56:25Travis Kelce?

  Peace.