How to Question What You Were Taught, Discover Your True Self & Embrace Your Power w/Sherri Shepherd

Have you ever felt like you’re not quite sure who you truly are? Discovering your true self is one of the most important things you can ever do! And in today’s brand new episode with my amazing guest Sherri Shepherd, get ready to question everything you’ve been taught in your life so far and tune into who you truly are! If you’re ready to learn to trust yourself and embrace the power that is YOU, I am SO excited to share this episode with you! They say laughter is the best medicine, and my incredible guest Sherri Shepherd is medicine for millions of us daily on her hit Television Talk Show “Sherri” now in it’s 3rd season. Sherri is an Emmy Award-winning host, actress, comedian, author, and mom. Sherri has truly done it all - and yet - her star is burning brighter than ever right now, in fact, Sherri will be getting a STAR on the Hollywood walk of fame this year, and today she’s here to pour into YOU! Are You Ready to believe in YOU?🙌 jamiekernlima.com 👈 Sign up for my FREE Inspirational Newsletter here and you’ll ALSO get special prompt questions to help you grow in your self-worth-building that pair with each episode!🩷 Make sure to click the “Follow” button for the show on your favorite podcast app, so you’ll be the first to get each episode! ____ Episode Reflection Questions for YOU: Jamie writes prompt questions each episode to spark revelations in your self-worth journey and help you apply the tools and lessons from each episode into your real life right now. Please make sure you’re signed up for Jamie’s free inspirational newsletter jamiekernlima.com 👈 Get my new book WORTHY plus FREE Bonus gifts including a 95+page Worthy Workbook and more at worthybook.com I’d love to inspire you weekly! Get my FREE Inspirational Newsletter here: jamiekernlima.com For more resources related to today’s episode, click here https://jamiekernlima.com/show/ for the podcast episode page. Chapters: 0:00 Welcome to The Jamie Kern Lima Show 7:22 I Just Say It 10:35 Is The Country Ready For A Woman? 12:35 As The Mother Of A Special Needs Child 17:35 Assignment From God 21:18 "I Like Short Men" 29:23 Thinking For Yourself It’s such an honor to share this podcast together with you. And please note: I am not a licensed therapist, and this podcast is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional. Click Here to Subscribe to the YouTube Channel Follow me here: Instagram TikTok Facebook Website — Sign up for my inspirational newsletter for YOU at: jamiekernlima.com — Looking for my books on Amazon? Here they are! WORTHY: https://a.co/d/6MkvL2j Believe IT: https://a.co/d/7nYhkfb

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• 0:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  On today's episode, how to question everything you've been taught and become your true self with Emmy award-winning comedian and talk show host Sherri Shepherd. You've talked about crying for three years straight on The View. How did you get to that point of saying, "Okay, I'm gonna open my mouth and half the people aren't gonna like me"?

• 0:22Speaker 01

  I used to carry the weight of the world on me. "Oh, I can't let black people down. I can't let black women down. I can't let Christians down."

• 0:32Jamie Kern Lima?

  This is a big thing that I'm excited to talk to you about because so many women, but also people, let's just put it out there, so many people, we have all this pressure now to post on social, and then you do, and you get attacked. There's gonna be so many millions of people listening or watching this that are gonna have an aha moment right now, as Oprah would call it, where they're like, "Wait a minute, I have learned a lot." How many elections have you voted in? Because I know for a while you didn't vote, right?

• 0:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was at Jehovah's Witness. I didn't start voting until I got on The View. I'm definitely about unifying. I thought the country was ready for a woman. I really did. And as a black woman, I thought the country was ready for a black woman. And I have a son who's 19, and he's on the spectrum. So many things are flying that stop and frisk may be implemented again. Well, stop and frisk affects young, brown, and black boys. So with stop and frisk, as a mother, that's very terrifying to me. And one thing that I know, I said to the audience is that laughter unifies.

• 1:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  Do you feel like you're born funny? Like, it's just part of your anointing or part of your personality?

• 1:46Speaker 01

  It definitely is. That is a specific gift from God that I have. I just know that when I sit in that chair, it's a responsibility, especially now as people are in despair. They're worried about their kids. They're worried about, you know, am I gonna have a job? They're worried about racial issues. And they need an hour to just go, "I don't wanna think about that. I just wanna laugh." That's what I'm here for.

• 2:19Speaker 01

  Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

• 2:23Jamie Kern Lima?

  Oprah, how have you defied the odds?

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Her show is unlike any I've ever done.

• 2:29Speaker 03

  A revelation. When you listen, it feels like a hug, but your brain and your spirit and your heart is like, wow.

• 2:37Jamie Kern Lima?

  Melinda French Gates.

• 2:39Speaker 04

  When I look into Jamie's eyes, I feel like I am on some other cosmic level with her.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  I could see the light around her. She's infused with light.

• 2:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Imagine overcoming self doubt, learning to believe in yourself and trust yourself and know you are enough. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

• 3:01Speaker 03

  Jamie Kern Lima is her name. Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life. Jamie Kern Lima.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  Jamie, you're so inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima.

• 3:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  They say laughter is the best medicine and my incredible guest Sherri Shepherd is medicine for millions of us daily on her hit television talk show Sherri. And let me just tell you from firsthand experience, it is funnier than ever. Sherri is an Emmy award winning, NAACP Image Award winning, Gracie Award winning, and that's just a few of them, host, actress, comedian, author, and mom, known for her impeccable timing and relatable humor. From her main seat on The View for seven years to her wide range of acting, business, and hosting roles, she's truly the definition of a multi-talented superstar.

• 4:01Jamie Kern Lima?

  I fell in love with her when I got the gift of being a guest on her show this year. And actually, funny story, my husband Paulo fell in love with her when he heard she appeared on an episode of WWE SmackDown as a guest manager to professional wrestler MVP. Sherri has truly done it all, and yet her star is burning brighter than ever right now. And speaking of stars, Sherri will be getting A star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame this year. So well deserved. Sherri Shepherd, welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  Oh, my goodness, Jamie. Wow, I was like, who is that girl?

• 4:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  You're like, is that me?

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 4:43Jamie Kern Lima?

  That's you.

• 4:44Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 4:45Jamie Kern Lima?

  What an honor you're here.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  Thank you for having me.

• 4:48Jamie Kern Lima?

  I'm so excited.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  That's a lot of pressure. I feel like I'm supposed to be, you know, after you read all of that, I'm supposed to be like, really great.

• 4:56Jamie Kern Lima?

  I think you can't help but be really great. And it was such a gift to be on your show recently. And that's where I just got to see

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 5:03Jamie Kern Lima?

  Your beautiful soul and feel it. I just want to kick it off with this topic of being funny. So like studies show, studies show laughter improves every part of our health, our mental health, our mood, our entire life. And you call yourself a good time, a good time. And so many of us, we want to be more of a good time in our lives.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  And, you know, I hear from a lot of women that are like, as an adult, I feel like I'm, I've lost touch with my sense of humor. I feel like I don't even know if I'm funny anymore. I don't know how to have fun. So right off the top, Sherri Shepherd, how, how do we get in touch with our sense of humor? And like, how can we be more fun and funny? Do you feel like you're born funny? Like, it's just part of your, your anointing or part of your personality?

• 5:58Speaker 01

  It definitely is, that is a specific gift from God.

• 6:02Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  That I have. And it's not to say my funny is better than other people because I'm not the, my whole family is funny. I'm not the funniest person. I'm probably the least funniest, but I do make money at being funny. My family tells me all the time, that wasn't funny what you said. That one, and when we all get together, you would crack up at everybody in my family. They're funny. So I don't, even with men, sometimes I'm, I'm very serious. You know, and they go, where's the, where's that Sherri? Or people who work for me, Jamie, they, I will tell them, the one that you see on the chair, I'm much more. Scripted, like I work really hard to create that first 20 minutes that I sit on the chair.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  It takes an hour for us to come up with 18 minutes of material or 14 minutes of material. And I'm a perfectionist. So I'm very serious about the business part. I think some of my dates go, wow, you're kind of serious.

• 6:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. Well, this is probably why you're able to make money being funny because you have both sides to you. You can bring it when you need to, but then you are also, you probably have that other part of your brain where you're like, oh, this has got to be good. Because most people I meet who are really successful, no matter if they're an artist or an entertainer or a business person, doesn't matter. They have that side of them. They're very serious.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I have that side of me. I'm really, I'm really about business. I'm very serious. About my, you know, my, if you ask my assistant, Edie, is Sherri funny? She'd be like, no. If, if I mess up with Jeffrey, I don't want to see that side of Sherri. Like I, and I'm, and I know a lot of comics like that who are, you know, when they're in front of the camera, they are so funny. But then when you see them off the camera, serious as a heart attack.

• 7:45Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  My, my co-host on my podcast, Kim Whitley, when we're together, she makes me laugh, but she's very serious.

• 7:52Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Um, I'm thinking of somebody, Nisi Nash, my other bestie, very serious when we're, when we're talking. So, but when we have to go out, some, we can pull up.

• 8:02Jamie Kern Lima?

  So when you feel like saying something and you know it's funny, do you ever doubt it or do you just like let it come out?

• 8:07Speaker 01

  I don't even think, oh, this is going to be funny. I just say it.

• 8:09Jamie Kern Lima?

  You just say it?

• 8:10Speaker 01

  I just, and it makes people laugh. It's just the, it, now I do know it's the way I look at things. Like the way I look at things is a, a, a typical person will see a circle. I look at things through a square and I, and try to fit that square into the circle and it doesn't. And that's my funny. I don't think about it. I just say it.

• 8:32Jamie Kern Lima?

  Wow.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  And it's, so it's the lens at which I look at life. So I don't look at it in a, in a normal, you know, kind of way. Like, I think, um, a rant that I did on my show was about going to the podiatrist. And him cutting my corns and touching my feet. And the way I looked at it was like, it was like a whole sexual experience. And it was so amazing in the way he did it and how he said, you know, I need you to wear orthotics. And I was like, I do, I do, I will wear orthotics. I don't think about, oh, this is gonna be funny if I say it. It, that was just the experience. And I came in to my, the Hot Topics meeting and I said, I just had this experience with this podiatrist. Let me tell you about it. And once I saw they were on the floor, I go, well, we can use it.

• 9:17Speaker 01

  So I don't, I, I guess that'll, it just comes out.

• 9:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  Wow.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  And it's the way I look at life. So look at life a little bit different. Don't look at it through the average type of lens. See it, look at it a different way.

• 9:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  You know?

• 9:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  Like, I just went to the podiatrist and that was a sexual experience.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  That was, yeah, and like even now, even like with the election, without getting political, it's like, you know, it, it's, it's a different day. Now, now we have to, we have to now fight for our rights. We have to, and my immediate mindset, I was talking to a bunch of very accomplished women and we're very concerned about how do we, how is this world gonna be for our children and, you know, standing up for our rights and fighting. And I go, well, what, okay, when you say fight, like, I have sciatica. My, like, what, what kind of fighting are we doing? Are we talk, are we talking about fighting, you know, intellectually? Cause I just stayed up till five in the morning watching the mayor of Kingstown. So I'm a little tired. I, like, how much fighting can we, and marching is not for me, cause I have flat feet. So do I have to wear my orthotics when I march? Is there gonna be a bathroom near when I march?

• 10:18Speaker 01

  And, you know, I can't see, so I don't even know if I'm, my, my, my eyesight, I need my reading glasses. You know, am I gonna be able to read the signs that we gotta make? And, you know, I show up on time. So all the young people, like, marching is a young person's game. And it was just, I just started going off on this whole rant about marching being for young people, cause they got the stamina, their feet aren't gonna hurt, they don't have to go to the bathroom. When, when they start going, you know, they're coming, run! Okay, I can't run. I get, my, my knees gonna give out. I, I don't drop it like it's hot. And they were all laughing. And I go, but seriously, this is what I'm thinking, so.

• 10:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  During an election recap.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  During an election recap. So I can get on stage and talk about the election for 50 minutes and make it funny.

• 11:05Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  Because the way I look at, you know, it's serious to me, but some of the way I look at it is just a little different.

• 11:11Jamie Kern Lima?

  Like you find the humor in it.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  I find the humor in it, yeah.

• 11:15Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah. How are you feeling about the election?

• 11:19Speaker 01

  How am I feeling about the election? Um, I'm very disappointed because I was, I, I, I thought the country was, was ready for a woman. I really did. And as a black woman, I thought the country was ready for a black woman. And I, and I thought this, I, I was so excited about Kamala Harris. Because I felt Kamala Harris, she may not be a biological mother, where, where children came from her womb, but she's a mother. That's why she, you know, like she has her stepda, her stepkids and she, I felt finally we're gonna have a woman who has mothering instincts and nurturing instincts, who can run the country.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  If you, women, we've run so many things and there's, you know, I'm definitely, we have things that men don't have. Our femininity, our, our softness, our compassion, our empathy, and I thought, this is what we need. Somebody who's gonna sit there and go, you, you, we're not doing this war thing. We're not, uh-uh. We're gonna come to the table, we're gonna sit down and we're gonna talk until uh, one of us is tired, but we're gonna look for solutions rather than just clashing. Somebody who, who can, who can empathize over here and over here, because that's what we do. When we have to, you know, negotiate things. And I thought, finally, we, you're gonna see what a woman brings, the strength

• 12:45Speaker 01

  and the power of just being a woman. Why people love being around us, why a mother can take you in her arms and say, it's gonna be alright. I don't care what happens, anybody who goes to a courtroom, they could commit the worst of crimes and their mama will be right there going, but that's my baby. And I said, we're gonna have someone leading a country like that, who just has these qualities that have not been seen. So I, it, for me, it was disappointing and I have a son who's, um, he's 19 and he's on the spectrum. Jeffrey. Jeffrey. And so it wasn't so much worried about me, it was how do I explain this to a boy

• 13:28Speaker 01

  whose brain processes differently? He doesn't understand Project 2025. He doesn't understand. So it's a lot of stress on me because I think that they said, you know, and I don't know if it's true or not, so many things are flying, that stop and frisk may be implemented again. Well, stop and frisk affects young brown and black boys. And my son is now trying to get his independence as a 19-year-old, so I allow him to get on the train and just go and get off. He just hasn't let me know where he's at. He took the train to Brooklyn to go to a Nets game, but he went three hours before the game

• 14:12Speaker 01

  started because he just wanted to walk around. And he just wanders around and he, because he's got this, he'll say, mommy, I'm so excited. But you don't see it on his face. And he'll say, I'm so excited. And, and so if you just look at him, he just looks like a grown man who just is kind of blank, but he's taken in everything. So I let him walk around Brooklyn for three hours. He went, he said, mommy, I'm at getting a iced tea. Mommy, I went to this Chipotle, I'm sitting down eating. Mommy, I'm at the Barclays Center, so I'm going in the museum. But it was very scary for me, but I said, he needs to get his independence. He needs to, he's 19-year-old things are happening in his body, but his brain is not,

• 14:56Speaker 01

  doesn't process everything, you know, so he doesn't, he has a hard time sensing energy. So bad energy he doesn't sense. He just walks around very free. If you talk to him, he'll give you a big smile. You know, he's got a job working at the movie theater, taking tickets, and so he's very innocent. So with stop and frisk, as a mother, that's very terrifying to me because for somebody who's on the spectrum, if there's a lot of people saying, get down, put your hands behind me, that confuses him. And he's gonna be like, dude, I can't be, he doesn't like to be touched. So all of these things, as a mother with a child, an adult, but he's my baby, of special needs.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  This scares me. Because now I have to go home and explain to Jeffrey, I just can't let you go and go to a restaurant by yourself and you want to walk around the block. Because he wants to be like the teenagers that he sees. He points him out all the time, mommy, I want to be like them. They're just walking around, just walking around. You know, Jeffrey forgets to bring his ID with him. He, you know, he's just not aware. And if my son saw the windows broken out of our house with the door hanging wide open, he wouldn't think, oh, somebody may have broken out, I better call my mom. He'd go, he'd go inside. He could see five people sitting at the table who don't belong there. And he'd go, what's up, bro? And go up in his room.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  So now hearing that and going, my son wants independence. I want him to find independence. I want him to be able to walk around New York City. He can't, I, how do I explain to him that I cannot allow you to do that? And then I don't want to put fear on him. But I'm scared. So what I think about the election, it is concerning to me. I did not vote for Donald Trump. I voted for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz because her message of moving the country forward and it being a new day and unifying, I'm definitely about unifying. I said that on my show. We found out that Donald Trump had become president of the United States.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  And I go, how do I go and make people laugh? There will be a lot of people that are going to be happy and there are going to be a lot of people who are devastated. There's a lot of rights that are going to be rolled back with Project 2025. You know, education. If you don't know your history, then how are you going to know what your future is? And that was a heavy day for me, but I said, The one thing that I know, I said to the audience is that laughter unifies. And I could hear grumblings in the audience. There were people who were very happy. They clapped when I said there's some people that are gonna be happy today and some people clapped.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  And then I could hear grumbling in the audience of people who didn't, who had voted another way. And I said, but if you would allow me to do what I do, make you laugh, because that's what I know how to do with my eyes closed. Let me do the work for you. And they clapped. And so the one thing I know is humor and laughter, it's needed. I have friends who think what I do is, you know, you talk show, you're great, you're entertainer, you're actor, you're great, but it's not moving the world, it's not changing the world. Don't tell me that. It's needed more than ever. And I feel it's like an assignment from God. I'm thankful that he's using me, because there's people who are funnier than me, but

• 18:36Speaker 01

  I just know that when I sit in that chair, it's a responsibility, especially now, because people are in despair. They're worried about their kids. They're worried about, you know, am I gonna have a job?

• 18:50Speaker 01

  They're worried about racial issues. And they need an hour to just go, I don't want to think about that. I just want to laugh. That's what I'm here for. I'm not gonna give you the news of the day and this breaking news and this political and this and then. I'm disappointed. I need to find a way to move on and I need to find a way to unify and I need, you know, and I want to love, so. But there, but those are the issues that, you know, as with this election, how does this affect my child? Who's on the spectrum, who just really isn't aware.

• 19:23Jamie Kern Lima?

  What are you gonna do? Like, because he's 19 and...

• 19:28Speaker 01

  I'm struggling with that. I'm really, really struggling with that because I want him to grow up and not be fearful. I want him to grow up with as much independence as he can have. I want him to, you know, to be happy and be at a job that he loves. And he loves people. Like, you know, I'm scared for my son. My son, you know, he came to me years ago and he's like, mommy, I like white girls. I like him to have big butts like a Kardashian. That's what he said to me.

• 19:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  What'd you say?

• 19:58Speaker 01

  Because, and I said, "Well, you know, mommy got a big butt." He's like, "Oh, well, that's gross." But my son goes to a special needs school. So really, everybody he's grown up with, the girls have been white. That's all he knows. And his cousins are black girls, are little black girls. And his experience with them is, they always call and go, "Auntie, Jeffrey won't do this. Jeffrey won't do that." So that he gets in trouble with the black girls he knows. So that he's never been around a really, um, maybe one black girl that he liked in his school. And he was like, "But she likes all of the white boys." So when he came and he said that to me, I'm like, "It's very funny."

• 20:40Speaker 01

  So he went to a prom with a girl who was white. There's this girl, yeah, I can't, he told me not to talk about him too much. But it's like, so that concerns me because I'm like, him walking down the street with, with, with this, all of this stuff going on. If somebody confronts Jeffrey, he, he doesn't, it, like, all that doesn't bother him. Even him, he rides a train now to school by himself. And I go, "Does anybody say anything to you?" He goes, "Yeah, but I just ignore it." He said, "I sat next to a guy and he woke up and he's like, 'Why are you sitting next to me?'" And I go, "What did you do?" And he goes, "I just ignored it." So what am I gonna say, Jamie? I don't know. I'm praying all the time going, "Okay, we're here.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  This is a new day." And now I have to teach my son, "Lord, how do I do that with the way the challenges that he faces, the way he processes in his brain? How do I do that? I don't know. This is the first time I've ever been a mother of a child that has special needs. And it's, you know, who doesn't just get it.

• 21:47Jamie Kern Lima?

  With, um, speaking of him dating, so with you dating, do you look for like, is there a type you have? There's so much more coming up in this episode you are not gonna want to miss. But first, I wanted to share this with you. In life, you don't soar to the level of your hopes and dreams. You stay stuck at the level of your self-worth. When you build your self-worth, you change your entire life. And that's exactly why I wrote my new book, Worthy. How to Believe You Are Enough and Transform Your Life for You. If you have some self-doubt to destroy and a destiny to fulfill, Worthy is for you.

• 22:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  In Worthy, you'll learn proven tools and simple steps that bring life-changing results. Like how to get unstuck from the things holding you back. Build unshakable self-love. Unlearn the lies that lead to self-doubt and embrace the truths that wake up worthiness. Overcome limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome. Achieve your hopes and dreams by believing you are worthy of them and so much more. Are you ready to unleash your greatness and step into the person you were born to be? Imagine a life with zero self-doubt and unshakable self-worth.

• 23:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  Get your copy of Worthy, plus some amazing thank you bonus gifts for you at worthybook.com or the link in the show notes below. Imagine what you'd do if you fully believed in you. It's time to find out with Worthy. Imagine, what would you do if you fully believed in you? My weekly free inspirational newsletter is packed with tips and tools to help you find out. It's called One-on-One with Jamie, and it's delivered right to your inbox each Tuesday morning. It's a love letter from me to you, from my soul to yours.

• 23:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  And I hope it brings you the words and messages you need at just the right moment. Plus, when you're a part of my free inspirational newsletter community, Be the first to get behind the scenes content, inspirational messages and be the first to learn about upcoming events and more. It's the place to be and I sure hope you'll join me there. So if you're not on the list yet, you can sign up for free at jamiekernlima.com or click the link in the show notes below. And here's to becoming unstoppable together. And now more of this incredible conversation together. So with you dating, do you look for like, is there a type you have?

• 24:43Speaker 01

  They have to be funny.

• 24:44Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 24:44Speaker 01

  And I have to, humor gets me.

• 24:48Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  If you're funny, I like that because I think that can break a lot of, that can break, you know, I love to do a good belly laugh.

• 24:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  And I have a good sense of humor too. So if somebody does something and they make me laugh, like a big gut laugh.

• 25:03Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  You got a real big shot with me. I love, but my husband was a comic, Jeffrey's daddy, he was a comic. If I see you on stage and you can make me laugh, I'm like, oh man. That's so humor really is a big one.

• 25:19Jamie Kern Lima?

  Do you feel like it's great because you can actually just like exhale and let that be funny? Because you're often so funny and then you don't have to be all the time.

• 25:27Speaker 01

  When I don't have to be all the time, it's kind of like a meeting of the minds. Because if you're funny, you can get, you know, I know you have your series. But now I can't have be with a man who's funny 24/7.

• 25:37Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  That would, that drives me up the wall.

• 25:39Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  Like just be chill and just let it flow. People try to be funny all the time, comics try to be funny around me all the time. I can't, I have to walk away.

• 25:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  So if I, if I go on a date with you and 24/7 you're funny, I'm just like, oh, this is awful.

• 25:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  Do you have a physical type? Like you mentioned Jeffrey likes the Kardashians. Do you have like a physical type you go for or one that you will not go for?

• 26:01Speaker 01

  I can go for, I don't like them real tall. Because my ex, my, my, the last ex-husband was 6'5", 6', that's too tall. Like even, even in bed, it's just, it's all off. Like it's. It's too tall. Even when you take pictures, you gotta do the camera a different way. He's cut off, or it either looks like I'm the little girl holding his hand. It's just off. You know, I'm always looking up like this. That one like that, and I don't feel like you can protect me when you're that tall. Because all somebody's gotta do is kick you in the knees, and you're going down. Like, you're like a big giant that's gonna go down. So, I like short guys.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  I do, I like short men who are compact, but they got the short man anger. Which I like too, because they, you know, it's always something that's gonna set them off because they're short.

• 26:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  And you like that.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  I do, I do. So I like men that are probably, let me see, I'm 5'1". Probably 5'7" and 8", that's, that's the cutoff, right there.

• 27:05Jamie Kern Lima?

  You're making a whole lot of people's days right now. That's like, I've never, okay, okay, okay.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, give me, give me a short, but I, but I, I like a man who's healthy.

• 27:15Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Who takes care of himself. So if you're like a couch potato, and you wanna sit around in your underwear, and friggin' drink beer and burp, and fart, that, I'm not that one. Like, I'm at the gym. I'm trying to take care of myself. I walk. It's not like, you know, I don't climb mountains and go hiking and, and lay out in a tent, out at night, but if, but I do like going to the gym. I do like to walk. So if you're somebody who likes to take care of yourself too, I like that.

• 27:45Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. Are you dating now? Anyone now?

• 27:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. This is what I learned, this is what I learned in all of my public marriages, public divorces, really observing social media. The moment you start putting stuff out there, everybody wants to know who, who they are. And what I realized in putting stuff out there, they did not ask for this life. I asked for it.

• 28:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 28:16Speaker 01

  So it's not fair. And I, I also feel like there's something I would like to protect.

• 28:23Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Every, I'm so open with everything that I talk about. I even talk about dates that I go on, but I never mention a name.

• 28:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  Never mention who?

• 28:30Speaker 01

  I never, mm-mm. But it's just like, it, there's gotta be something. I think people overshare so much on social media.

• 28:37Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  We're so wanting everybody to see us holding hands and wearing the T-shirt of, I'm his and he's mine. And we gotta show people us kissing and, and, you know, eating together. And that's great, that's great, but I think it should be a period of date for a minute. Get to know them before you let the whole world into your life. Cause the moment something happens and you're like, please respect my privacy. Please don't make any comments, I'm turning. But you've given it to us. You have opened, once you open the door in social media to people, they don't forget. It will always be dredged up, even though you've healed from it.

• 29:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  And, um.

• 29:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  I bet you get the opposite. You probably also date people that because, you know, you, they know you're famous and they're like, oh, I wanna be out. Like, I wanna be out there.

• 29:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's another thing. It's a protective thing. I don't want people thinking that if they go on a date with me, we're now gonna be posting on Instagram.

• 29:32Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  And they get that. I, I have been, I have been hurt before like that. Like, okay, all you wanna do is go on the red carpet.

• 29:39Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  Wow, all you wanna do is you want me to introduce you to Tina Fey to read your script. Oh, that has happened before. And I, and I can, I can sense it.

• 29:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  And it really, and I go, ugh. So, yeah, I have definitely experienced that.

• 29:55Jamie Kern Lima?

  So you voted in this election?

• 29:57Speaker 01

  I did.

• 29:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  How many elections have you voted in? Cause I know for a while you didn't vote, right?

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was a Jehovah's Witness. So I didn't, I didn't vote, um, for, I, I didn't start voting until I got on The View. Like, I was not into politics. Like, I really could talk about politics all day with somebody.

• 30:11Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, I bet you can.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  I love politics, yes. I, Barbara Walters said something to me. That made me do it. When people talk crazy to you, or you feel like you fail, it really is, I feel like, don't look at it as failure. Just get back up and fix or course correct. But we need that. And for The View, I didn't know anything about politics. I'd never voted before. And one time Barbara Walters said to me, "Dear, read a book." All I knew was what the church taught me. That's what it was. I didn't think for myself. I just knew what the church had taught me. Or, you know, what I had learned when I was a witness. So, when she said that, she was like, "Read a book." And what I realized is sometimes we have to get out of where we live. We have to go travel the world. We have to meet people that are different from us.

• 30:58Speaker 01

  Because when you don't, that's how you get prejudiced. And that's how you get judgmental. When you don't meet people that are not like you. When you meet people that are different from you. And I just remember that, what Barbara said to me. And we were talking about something on The View. And I remember what I learned. But Whoopi said, "But what do you think? What do you think about that?" And I was like, "I don't know." So, you know, just in...

• 31:28Jamie Kern Lima?

  That's so powerful. I just want to say that again because there's going to be so many millions of people listening or watching this that are going to have an aha moment right now, as Oprah would call it, where they're like, "Wait a minute. I have learned a lot. I've been taught a lot. But wait a minute, what do I actually think? Not what does my partner think? Not what does my parents think? Not what did my teachers teach me to think? What do I actually think?"

• 31:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so now, yeah, so you got to have Whoopi on. Because she was just, that one hit me, what Barbara said, what Whoopi said, Joy Behar said. Because I used to carry the weight of the world on me when I was doing The View. "Oh, I can't let black people down. I can't let black women down. I can't let Christians down." It's a lot, that's a lot to carry. And Joy Behar said to me, "Sherry, the moment you open your mouth, half the world is going to hate you." So, you know, go by what you feel and what you think.

• 32:29Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  And once I started stepping out of my comfort zone and out of where I lived, in Little Hoffman Estates, Illinois, and I got to meeting people, I went, "Oh."

• 32:41Speaker 01

  You can't possibly be evil. Your heart is so beautiful. And I'm supposed to love. And how am I gonna judge you for who you married when I couldn't even make two of them work? I couldn't get through two. They lasted both total, maybe six, seven years. And you have been with your partner for 21 years? Somebody doing something right.

• 33:09Jamie Kern Lima?

  This is a big thing that I'm excited to talk to you about because so many women, but also people, let's just put it out there, so many people, we have all this pressure now to post on social. And then you do, and you get attacked. You say your opinion, you get attacked. Most women are these people pleasers. Everyone's afraid to say what they think.

• 33:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:26Jamie Kern Lima?

  And then, you know, Joy Behar shared with you, if you just open your mouth, you're gonna make half the people hate you. But life's too short to keep our mouth, like to live with a closed mouth our whole life. Coming up, this conversation is so incredible. We made it into two episodes. And if you're someone who wants to break through fear and learn to truly trust your voice, get what you want in life, and step into your purpose, you are not gonna wanna miss part two with Sherri Shepherd, coming up in the next episode of the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

• 34:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  If you loved today's episode too, my only ask is that you please click on the follow or subscribe button for the show on your app. Give it a five star rating or review. And then share this episode with everyone you believe in. Share it with another person in your life who could benefit from it. Post it and share it with others online or in your community, who just might need the words and tools and lessons in this episode today. You never know whose life you're meant to change today by sharing this episode. Thank you so much for joining me today. And before you go, I wanna share some words with you that couldn't be more true. You, right now, exactly as you are, are enough and fully worthy.

• 34:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  You're worthy of your greatest hopes, your wildest dreams, and all the unconditional love in the world, and it is an honor to welcome you to each and every episode of The Jamie Kern Lima Show. Here, I hope you'll come as you are, and heal where you need, blossom what you choose, journey toward your calling, and stay as long as you'd like, because you belong here. You are worthy, you are loved, you are love, and I love you. And I cannot wait to join you on the next episode of The Jamie Kern Lima Show. Do you struggle with negative self-talk?

• 35:29Jamie Kern Lima?

  Living with a constant mental narrative that you're not good enough is exhausting. I know, because I've spent most of my life in that habit. The words you say to yourself about yourself are so powerful, and when you learn to take control over your self-talk, it's life-changing. And I wanted to give you a free resource that I created for you if this is something that could benefit your life. It's called "Five Ways to Overcome Negative Self-Talk and Build Self-Love." And it's a free how-to guide to overcome that negative self-talk, to build confidence, and develop unshakable self-love, so that you can dream big and keep going in the pursuit of your goals.

• 36:14Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 36:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  And I'd love to hang out with you even more, especially if you could use an extra dose of inspiration, which is exactly why I've created my free weekly newsletter that's also a love letter to you, delivered straight to your inbox from me. If you haven't signed up, to make sure that you get it each week, just go to jamiekernlima.com to make sure you're on the list and you'll get your one-on-one with Jamie weekly newsletter and get ready to believe in you. If you're tired of hearing the bad news every single day and need some inspiration, some tips, tools, joy and love hitting your inbox, I'm your girl.

• 37:39Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 38:16Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 38:59Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 39:21Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 40:15Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 40:24Jamie Kern Lima?

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