Michael Singer: “I Can Handle This”—A Powerful Mantra for Modern Life, Why We Are Addicted to Our Own Suffering, and How to Release Everything That’s Hurting Us.

In this mind-expanding conversation of Mayim Bialik's Breakdown, Michael A. Singer—legendary author of bestsellers The Untethered Soul, Living Untethered, and The Surrender Experiment, and founder of Temple of the Universe—returns to reveal the real truth behind spiritual awakening...and why most people are getting it wrong. If you’ve ever wondered what a spiritual awakening actually looks like on a practical, everyday level, this is the breakdown you’ve been waiting for. Michael shares a step-by-step framework for building your spiritual identity, and explains why awakenings mean nothing unless you can properly integrate them into your daily life. You’ll learn why resilience is the #1 key to coping with modern stress, and why every authentic spiritual teacher puts compassion at the forefront of their teachings. Michael reveals how compassion and acceptance are deeply connected—and how this powerful combination leads to cooperation, unity, and humanity’s highest good. We also dive into the science behind spirituality, exploring the brain states of acceptance vs. resistance, and how eliminating the distractions of early emotions and personal narratives can open the door to higher consciousness. Michael even explains why we don’t matter nearly as much as we think we do—and why that realization is actually the most liberating truth of all. You’ll hear his bold perspective on why we must fix ourselves before trying to fix the world, his belief that science is finally catching up to spirituality, and why the power of awe might be the missing ingredient in your spiritual evolution. Michael also breaks down the concept of the higher self, how to access it, and what it truly feels like to live untethered and surrender to the universe (spoiler: it DOESN’T mean blindly accepting everything that happens—he explains the difference). Plus: his surprising proof that rich people are just as unhappy as everyone else, and his heartfelt message for beginners stepping onto the spiritual path for the first time. And for the first time ever, he shares an exclusive announcement and preview of his upcoming book, along with his mind-bending thoughts on where consciousness really lies… and what happens to consciousness when we die. If you’re ready to challenge everything you think you know about spirituality, identity, awakening, and the nature of existence itself, this is the episode of MBB you can’t afford to miss. Get 20% off all IQ Bar products - plus free shipping by texting BREAKDOWN to 64000. Go to shopremi.com/BREAK http://shopremi.com/BREAK and use code BREAK at checkout for 50% off. Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join at rocketmoney.com/breakdown http://rocketmoney.com/breakdown Visit https://untetheredsoul.com/ for more information about Michael Singer. Follow us on Substack for Exclusive Bonus Content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bialikbreakdown.substack.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BialikBreakdown.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.bialikbreakdown.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube.com/mayimbialik⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/mayimbialik%E2%81%A0 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  You have stored inside of you a lot of garbage. And the truth is, you put it in there, and only you can let it out. The great ones have found out, you need to expand your mind and your consciousness. If you can't change and bring down something more beautiful, how expect anybody else to?

• 0:17Mayim Bialik?

  The spiritual visionary Michael Singer is back. He's spent 50 years teaching us how to wake up and stop fighting with the universe. What does it mean to tap into a higher self?

• 0:29Speaker 00

  A great mantra would be, "I can handle this." You have to start by saying, "I am capable of accepting reality."

• 0:38Mayim Bialik?

  The more that's happening in the world, the more it also seems that people can't handle it.

• 0:43Speaker 00

  Every single person has totally different experiences. So therefore, the way they think is going to be unique. Can I handle that everybody's different? I've learned to open up, accept reality. It doesn't mean I don't do anything about it, but here's the difference. If I'm not okay, I guarantee you what I'm doing is struggling to change the outside, and I'm acting based on the reaction to that. As opposed to, I've learned to be at peace, calm, open, centered, and now, how can I actually help the situation, not help me handle the situation?

• 1:16Mayim Bialik?

  When we tell people to be in acceptance of something, it doesn't mean you have to like it.

• 1:21Speaker 00

  You're sitting on a little planet, of which 1.3 million Earths fit inside the Sun. You think that you matter so much, that everything should be the way you want. When your consciousness ceases to stare at your thoughts, your emotions, your mind, it's liberated, but that's a very high state. So in the meantime, you learn to practice compassion. The world changes one person at a time, and that person's you.

• 1:55Mayim Bialik?

  Hi, I'm Iain Bialik.

• 1:56Jonathan Cohen?

  And I'm Jonathan Cohen.

• 1:57Mayim Bialik?

  And welcome to our Breakdown. Today, we have a very, very unique opportunity to view our world in an entirely different way. Not just the world that we live in, but the world that we live in, in our heads. We're going to be exploring the notion of a universal consciousness that dictates all of the things that we see and feel, the ways we react. But so many of us are looking to react less and respond more. So many of us are feeling like, maybe there's something missing about the thoughts that I'm having and the way that I interpret them.

• 2:41Mayim Bialik?

  What does it mean to tap into a higher self? What does it mean to have access to some sort of divine consciousness? If all of this seems like too much to handle, we're going to give you the most grounded and most practical stroll through your mind. The only person who can do this with us is Michael Singer. Now, Michael Singer is the author of The Untethered Soul. We spoke to him about three years ago. He's also written Living Untethered and The Surrender Experiment. He had a deep inner awakening in 1971 where he spontaneously realized that there was a voice in his head that was watching everything that was going on.

• 3:25Mayim Bialik?

  And it's led to an entire life of teaching people how to go about their lives to be in touch with something that he believes has already been awakened for all of us.

• 3:36Jonathan Cohen?

  We hear so much about the term awakening, spiritual awakening, becoming more aware. And what Michael teaches is that we are all already awake. We have access to infinite consciousness, the ability to feel at one with everything, to have clarity, to know how to navigate our lives. And yet, we limit that.

• 4:04Jonathan Cohen?

  We reduce our own ability to be connected with the source of all that there is.

• 4:10Mayim Bialik?

  And in case this feels heady or out there, it's actually one of the most practical conversations that I have heard Michael Singer have. Because we ask about things like belief systems, religious structures. We ask about pain. We ask about challenges. We ask about what if I don't even have a framework for a spiritual identity? In addition, Michael decided to share with us something that we had no idea about. He gives us a sneak peek into what is going to be his next book, which will be coming out in March 2026. He reads us an excerpt and lets us into what is next for all of us on our spiritual evolution.

• 4:55Jonathan Cohen?

  Without further ado, we are so excited to bring back

• 4:59Mayim Bialik?

  Michael Singer to The Breakdown.

• 5:01Speaker 00

  Break it down. Hi, Maya. How are you? So excited to see you again.

• 5:07Mayim Bialik?

  We had the pleasure of speaking to you about three years ago. And not only was it one of our most viewed, most beloved, and most shared episodes that we've ever done, but it was personally one of our very early conversations that we started to have, which has become a lot more of the mainstay of our podcast. Talking about spirituality, about intuition. You really opened up so many doors for us, and we're so grateful to get to speak to you again. So, thank you. Since we first spoke to you, we've heard a lot in our culture shift in terms of people talking about waking up, or having spiritual awakenings,

• 5:52Mayim Bialik?

  or people feeling that they're gaining access to parts of themselves that they never did. Can you describe a little bit, either through your own journey or through your work, what does it mean to wake up? What does it mean to have these kinds of awakenings? What does it look like?

• 6:10Speaker 00

  That's very beautiful. And, you know, I've been doing this for 50 years, more. And so, I've matured at many different levels, times, and so on. And what I now see, and I, of course, work for a lot of people, is We're all awake. We're beyond awake. Like, but I've not, I'm not enlightened, you know, that's right. But my understanding and experiences show that we are really connected, as they say, we are connected to God, we're connected to the consciousness of the universe. So why don't we experience that? Because you're talking about waking up, I always say, why are you not awake? Instead of what do I need to do to wake up, what's it like to wake up? Now, I know you are a great being.

• 6:55Speaker 00

  Every one of you, you're great beings, connected to unbelievable consciousness, all right? So why don't I experience that? And the short story is, because you've had experiences in your life that have bothered you, that focused your consciousness, distracted this universal wide consciousness down to a given point of your thoughts, your emotions, and what's happened to you. There you go, right? It pulled it down to that. In a short form, waking up means kind of freeing yourself from that getting lost in the ego, getting lost in your personal self. And then you start, the more, Christ said you must die to be reborn.

• 7:39Speaker 00

  That's what he meant, right? You die of the personal self, and the next thing you know, you're feeling spirit, you're feeling Shakti. I use the word Shakti, all right, now you know it, all right? And so you're feeling this upliftment of energy, right? They call that waking up. Maybe you have visions, maybe you literally go very, very deep and have a merger. You know, people do all kinds of things, but they all come back. That's the problem, all right? So my interest is to wake up and stay woken up. At whatever level, I'm not interested in quick little fixes and drugs and different stuff, all right? It's just, why are you not there now? And the answer is, because you've stored stuff inside of you over the course of your life, and you know you have, right?

• 8:22Speaker 00

  Suppression, repression, denial, resistance, call it what you want. So that when things come in from outside, and they're not comfortable in here when they get in, you tend to push them away. You're saying that rationalization, this, that, whatever. What you're literally doing is saying, I can't handle this energy. I don't like this energy. I don't want it coming into me. I don't want it in me. Forget coming into me. You make it come with a thought, doesn't have to be an experience, right? And what we tend to do, it's natural, but it's not good, right? Is to push it away. Anything you ever pushed away is still in there. If you did not at some point learn to let it go, say, I don't care. It's fine. I forgive you really, right?

• 9:06Speaker 00

  But if you held it in there, you push it away. It comes back up and you know it does. And then you push it away again. All right. So that's what it means to not be awake. And there's different levels, of course. All right. You're like, you're lost in yourself. Your consciousness is lost in staring at Maya and Jonathan. Okay, that's where we live our lives. It's just the reality. So when people are waking up and people are realizing, wait a minute, I don't need all this junk inside of me. I don't need to control the whole world for me to be okay. Okay, I can learn to work on myself, which is part of waking up. I can learn to work on my inner self so that I can handle things. That's what I found it boils down to. Right? Last time we did an interview with Oprah for Living Untethered,

• 9:52Speaker 00

  which we work for that book, right? She said, you know, Michael, you know what a great mantra would be for the Western mind? I can handle this. Instead of I can't handle this. Why do you do that? I can't handle this, right? It's I can handle this. The more you can handle what's coming in, the less you have to push it away. The less you don't have to push it away, the more it actually makes through. Like white lines on the road, you drive by, they pass by. Well, the more you grow and evolve, really a form of evolution of the consciousness that it can handle these things, then that is what they mean by I'm waking up, by having spiritual experiences and so on. But remember, my teachings and what I learned is the key isn't your experiences.

• 10:36Speaker 00

  Because they could, I had a great experience two years ago. Well, then that was two years ago. Where are you now? Why are you not there all the time? Because you haven't learned to let go of the garbage. I'm sorry to call it that, but it is, right? Things from the past that aren't happening now should not be bothering you. They're not real. They're not happening. You held them in your mind. All right, so there's a short, not short. There's a foundation of our discussion of what it means to wake up.

• 11:05Mayim Bialik?

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• 12:34Mayim Bialik?

  It's the best way to support our show. We're hearing it more in kind of the cultural vernacular. You know, there's workshops and yes, everybody's doing, you know, we live in Los Angeles. Everybody's doing psilocybin and going on ayahuasca journeys, and everybody wants to get connected and all these things. So part of me wanted to ask, you know, what do you see is happening that's leading to that? But the other side of it is also, many of us seem to be devolving in that the more that's happening in the world, the more it also seems... Seems that people can't handle it. Meaning with politics, with world events, you hear more and more people saying, I need to be on medication. My doctor doesn't know what to do with me. You know, can you talk about each of these evolutions?

• 13:18Mayim Bialik?

  Both an elevating one and whatever evolution is happening that's making people less resilient to being able to be in touch with that?

• 13:26Speaker 00

  Of course, and they're the same, by the way. Okay, it's like a scale. How far negative, how far positive, it's the same spectrum, all right? So the reason people are, I don't know, you use the word devolving, but the reason they are getting lost and getting angry and getting tense and anxious and all that kind of stuff, right? It's just they're not letting go. They're sitting here saying, I can't handle this. And they're saying, I can't handle this. I can't handle the politics. I can't handle what's going on with racism. I can't handle this. I can't handle, I can't handle this, all right? Stop the world, I want to get off. Okay, well, that's going backwards. The more you resist, the more you say, and by the way, when you say, I can't handle it,

• 14:09Speaker 00

  what you're really saying is, unless it's the way I want, I can't handle it. Right? If it be the way I want, I can handle it just fine, right? So you're out there getting tense, manipulating, controlling intensely, right? And it gets worse and worse. Because the more you shove down, the worse it is. Right? So it's really the up is when you're letting go, not saying, I can't handle it. I better go out there and manipulate everybody and everything to get it the way I want. But just sitting here saying, I can handle it. How? By working on myself inside. When you stop working yourself inside, you stop understanding that the reality of what's happening is your consciousness looking at you. Right?

• 14:50Speaker 00

  I often talk about, and I don't know if anybody gets it, right? How small are you? I don't know, you're a great being, very popular. We love you so much. But you're sitting on a little planet of which 1.3 million Earths fit inside the sun. Did you know that? 1.3 million Earths inside the sun. And how much of that planet do you take up? This tiny, miniscule thing. And yet you think that you matter so much that everything should be the way you want. Waking up means hello, right? That's 1.3 million Earths inside the Sun, and there's 300 billion stars in your galaxy. So why can't we just say, hey, I came down to the planet,

• 15:34Speaker 00

  I'm gonna do a few chucks around the Sun, and it's cool, things happen. I can handle them. I can work to raise them. I can work to make them where I feel the world would be a better place if I do this, but not starting with, I can't handle this. So that's why the world is more and more, I don't know the world, right? But a lot of people are more and more getting closed. What does closed mean? I can't handle it. I don't want to experience it. Push it away. What does open mean? Okay, okay, fine, it's raining. I didn't want it to rain. I can handle it. The driver in front of me is driving 15 miles an hour below the speed limit. I'm in a rush. Okay, I'm on a little ball in the middle of nowhere, screwing around. I can handle it.

• 16:19Speaker 00

  That's the spectrum. When the internet and all this was happening, there's so much more exposure to everything, so much more communication. So there's so much more for you not to be able to handle, okay? And you just have to decide, I can handle it. I can handle it, okay?

• 16:35Mayim Bialik?

  I want to push a little bit harder on this because, not because I don't think that there is wisdom here, and not because I don't think that this is not the path that I would like to go down, and I think that many would. But when the stakes are raised, you know, many of us live in cities, I'm just gonna say it, where, you know, agents are coming in, taking people from their homes, taking people from their places of work, you know, the rights of women and people of color and trans people and LGBTQ community, they're being challenged by the day. And, you know, I keep looking around and saying, why we can't do anything to stop it, right? So I want you to apply this to that because obviously you're not saying like, oh, people are being deported unjustly

• 17:19Mayim Bialik?

  and held in prisons and we never hear from them. Just let it go. How do we apply this to that kind of scale, you know, of challenge?

• 17:29Speaker 00

  It's beautiful. They're beautiful. And I love talking about it, okay? Do I like all the things that are going on? My personal position as a 60s liberal? Of course not, all right? But what I have found... Is that resistance doesn't fix anything. That doesn't, so the starting position is, as I keep saying it, okay, is this going on? Yes.

• 17:56Speaker 00

  What's my choice? Be able to handle it? Or don't be able to handle it? If I can't handle it, I get neurotic. I get ulcers. I get upset. I yell at the kids. You understand that? Okay, if I can handle it, which is work, that, okay. Things happen in this world that are terrible. Even worse than we just talked about, aren't they? Okay, go back to Holocaust and think terrible things have happened. Okay, but they did happen. So you don't get to choose they didn't. You don't get to rewrite history, all right? You have to start by saying, I am capable of accepting reality. You're a brilliant scientist, my own, right? I am capable of accepting reality.

• 18:39Speaker 00

  Is it reality of these things you said that are going on? Not should they be going on? Not do I like it? Is it reality that are going on? Okay, you start by saying, I, I can accept reality. I've learned to be open enough to accept reality. Now, once I do that, it doesn't mean I don't do anything about it. But here's the difference, right? If I'm not okay, I guarantee you what I'm doing is struggling to change the outside so I can be okay. I don't want to be disturbed. I don't want them doing this. I don't want that happening. Right? So I, I have this resistance and problem inside of me. And I'm acting based on the reaction to that. As opposed to, I've learned to be at peace, calm, open, centered. Okay?

• 19:24Speaker 00

  And now I can come back down and say, how can I actually help the situation? Not help me handle the situation? And I think you understand that a lot of what people are doing, right? Is dumping, right? Do they have the right to? Of course. There's terrible things happening in this world. Correct? I, I, I don't, I can't, they do, right? But you have to be able to work on yourself to be able to handle them. Then see what clarity says, how can I help? Some, maybe a smile will help. Right? We talk about people that go through terrible things. How proud do you feel if somebody's going through a terrible thing? And they, they're handicapped, but they stick their hand out to shake your hand.

• 20:07Speaker 00

  They don't show that it's a problem. They handled it, right? If people could handle what's going on, we could get along, right? Because I start by saying, I understand. You, psychologist says what? Man is the sum of his learned experiences. It's not true. You're the consciousness staring at the psyche. There's the sum of your learned experiences, the witness, okay? Fine, but if people are the sum of the learned experiences, everybody, every single person has totally different experiences, right or wrong? Look at all the experiences you've had. No one ever had those. They're completely unique. So therefore, the way they think is going to be unique. You understand that? And the way I think is going to be unique.

• 20:52Speaker 00

  Is my way right? Of course I'm right. But they say the same thing. Because their experiences support what they're thinking. Because they are the sum of the learned experiences. We're talking deep, right? So you get to the point where it's not about fighting and arguing. It's about, can I handle that everybody's different? Can I handle that everybody sees it different? And it's understandable if they are the sum of the learned experiences. And so now, like I said, can you handle it or can't you handle it? And more than that, are you trying to understand compassion? Are you trying to understand what Christ taught, what Buddha taught, what all the great teachers taught?

• 21:33Speaker 00

  Which is, you, you without sin, throw the first stone. Forgive them. They don't know what they're doing, right? All the teachers are the same. Which is, if you come from a personal point of view, of this is the sum of my experiences. That's the fishbowl I'm wearing over my head. And it is different than yours. I've been married 30 years. They are not going to see it the same as you. They went to work one day and somebody fired them. They're different when they come back because they had a different experience. And you respect the fact that people have had different experiences. Therefore, they think differently. Are they different? No, the self is the same. When you can get back there, you start understanding, oh, everybody's looking down at their own minds. Right? But that's a very high state.

• 22:18Speaker 00

  So in the meantime, you learn to practice compassion, you learn to practice understanding. And if you can't do it, and you're both are great beings, right? How can anybody do it? Right? If you're going to get all upset and have road rage because somebody's not driving the way you want. Okay, what do you expect from everybody else? And so what I've learned, it comes down to the world changes one person at a time. And that person is you. Right? If you can't change and bring down something more beautiful, something with love, something with clarity and compassion, how do you expect anybody else to? And yelling at them is not going to happen. So it comes down to, yes, there are problems out there, serious problems that need to be dealt with. Okay?

• 23:02Speaker 00

  But I would rather have the clear person deal with them than the angry person, the upset person, the person that's saying, I... When you say, "I can't handle this," then you don't have the right to handle it. You're the wrong person. "Here, I have a job for you." "Oh, no, I can't do that." "Okay, there's somebody else."

• 23:16Jonathan Cohen?

  Well, I think you should talk a little bit about the brain states that happen in acceptance versus resistance. We know that things calm down. We know that there's opportunity to have more openness, more clarity, more solutions. We don't attack in the same way. When we're resisting, we're in a state of attack. So the person is going to seem like my enemy who has a counterpoint. And that's a lot of what's happening right now is as we resist, the algorithms feed us opportunity to identify an enemy. And it's that person who is making me uncomfortable because I don't like their perspective. I don't like the experiences that they've had.

• 23:57Jonathan Cohen?

  And we've had other psychologists talk about how the brain changes when we enter a space where we feel okay enough to say, "I don't like what's happening, but I can handle it. There's a solution here." And it actually leads to one of my... What you said earlier in this interview about us being connected to this larger consciousness system. And I would love for you to expand on that idea. Because a lot of people are like, "Well, I kind of hear about consciousness and I hear about the universe, but like, I don't feel it necessarily." If we can start to paint a picture of the possibility... Maybe we'll start to open people's mind to have more of the experience of it

• 24:42Jonathan Cohen?

  and finding those solutions that are available when we calm down. Because as we calm, my experience is that our access to the larger field of information and possibility expands and we're actually shutting it down and tightening the valve to not be able to have that flow into us when we're in this enraged state. So the question, I guess, is can you tell us a little bit more about this infinite consciousness and universe that we are all connected to and the possibilities in there?

• 25:14Speaker 00

  I have learned over my years that science and spirituality, and you guys know that, all right, are saying the same thing. They just haven't touched yet, okay? They're close.

• 25:25Jonathan Cohen?

  We're working on it.

• 25:26Speaker 00

  I know. I usually do get in a discussion. But let's just go very quickly, since you guys are brilliant, right? Here's this world that's coming into me, right? I often talk about, you do know you don't look out through your eyes. You are not looking out through your eyes. Light is bouncing off of the atoms and molecules, reflecting, being picked up by your optical sensors, being sent up. You studied this, right? What am I telling you? Gets sent up the optical nerves, right? Hits the brain, right? And what they don't know, some do, is that that's not the end of it. The brain is the central CPU, right? But the vibrations that get emanated off the brain, electronic vibrations, are called vikis in yoga. Vikis.

• 26:11Speaker 00

  They're just very subtle vibrations that hit what we call the mental plane. They hit where your mind is not in your brain, right? And it causes, to render exactly what came in through your eyes into your mind. And you're looking at it in there, right? What's happening is light is coming in, just like you're looking at your flat screen TV that San Francisco is the ballgame. You're not in San Francisco. It's being sent up the nervous, so to speak, wires and then it's rendering on the flat screen. That is literally happening inside of you right now. Okay, so there. So basically, what happens is when science has studied what's actually out there. If I don't really see what's out there, I see what came in. You understand that?

• 26:55Speaker 00

  Your senses are I/O ports. They're sensor words. Okay, why? Because we don't see anything. It has to come back into our consciousness. Okay? So scientists have studied what's out there, and I'm gonna do it very quickly, because I'm not the expert anyway, believe me, right? And they found out, no, there really are no atoms. No, there really are no protons and neutrons. There's this field, oh my God, there's this field, an omnipre-- use the word omnipresent. An omnipresent field of-- we won't say what it is, we don't know what it is. We'll call it energy, call it whatever you want, that agitates and vibrates. And those wavelengths that get created,

• 27:36Speaker 00

  put themselves together to make neutrons, protons, electrons, atoms. So that's really what's down there. Okay, well, an omnipresent field that is the cause of all forces that exist and is everywhere is getting very close to God. Omnipresent, omnipresent, okay? But it's certainly very different than what we're looking at every day, right? But now, if you think about it, I make myself think about it every time, all the time. All right? I am not looking at people, places, buildings. I am looking at vibrations in a quantum field that is across the entire universe. Now we're starting to become one, aren't we? That brings us all much closer together. We're not looking at it the way we think it is, because it isn't, all right?

• 28:20Speaker 00

  And when the great yogis, the great masters, went deep in meditation, they found this amazing thing. They found out what the quantum field is made of. Consciousness. How do they know? Because they merge with it. That's what yoga is about. That's what the word merger means, that's what Christ meant. I am my Father all one. Okay, you're asking, talk more about that state. When your consciousness ceases to stare at your thoughts, your emotions, your mind, what you come through your senses, it's liberated. It's not distracted anymore. And what they found out, the great ones have found out, that all of a sudden, all the stars and moons and galaxies are who they are. That's one with their consciousness. Why do we live there?

• 29:03Speaker 00

  Because we are distracted by what distracts us. And what distracts us are your thoughts. Do your emotions distract you? Oh, my God, they get pulled right down, right? The moment you have an emotion, bam, you're really with God. That consciousness is being focused, pulled down to what you're distracted by. And that's what makes a human being distracted God. Okay, so when you talk about, how do we talk about these higher states? The great teachings of the masters say the same thing. One, can you cease to be distracted by what's going on outside? Not, don't work with it, but you can be distracted by it, fixated on it.

• 29:46Speaker 00

  All right, then, then you're not bothered suppressing it because I handled it. So all of a sudden, you're now cleaned out. You don't have all the junk inside of you. You're not all sensitive to everything somebody says or does, all right? Because you let it go. So now your consciousness is liberated, we use that word, to be able to hang out more in the mental plane as opposed to what's coming through the physical and the emotional. And then you start realizing, why am I getting upset? Because the person is driving weird. Why am I screaming, oh, my God, why is it raining on my birthday? It doesn't know it's your frickin' birthday. Right or wrong, what we do with our minds are ridiculous, right? Well, what happens, you start cleaning that up, right? Use your mind for intellectual pursuits, right?

• 30:28Speaker 00

  Use your mind for deep understanding instead of all this personal garbage. I don't like what she said, oh, my God, look what she's wearing. In the 60s, you used to talk about expanded consciousness, right? I learned that so wrong. It's non-contracted consciousness. Consciousness is already fully expanded. It's that you're contracting it to focus on your stuff, all right? When you cease to do that, you start to feel spare. You start to feel all this openness and beauty and expansiveness. Okay, and that, and ultimately, I started from the top. Ultimately, you, you merge, and that's very great.

• 31:07Speaker 00

  When I was young, I don't know if you read the Surrender Experiment, but I was probably 21 years old, 22 years old, and I had this very deep experience. And it's more beautiful than anything that could ever exist in the history of the universe, right? And therefore, you want to go back there. And so you spend your life being willing to let go of anything that's keeping you from there. Not, "How do I get there? How do I stop putting the blockages inside of me that keep me from going there?" And this becomes, that's your spiritual journey, that's your path. But you talk about, you know, that those experiences mean a lot to you. So, did I answer your question, Jonathan? Right, that's what's back there. We are the same, right?

• 31:51Speaker 00

  Can we be the same and yet what we're looking at, have all these differences? That's what compassion is. Compassion is sympathy. Compassion is, "I understand why you're different. I understand what you've gone through is totally different than me. I don't blame you. I don't do anything," right? Now, can we sit down and harmonize? Find a way? Come on, it's not that big a deal, right? And the answer is yes. But not while we're down here insisting that we're right. "I know it has to be, and I'm gonna fight and battle and do whatever. That's the best I can do." All right, by the way, that drop from pure consciousness down to staring at you

• 32:34Speaker 00

  is what's meant by "the fall from the garden." Literally. It says, "Once you fall from the garden..." You were in the garden, you're one with God, experiencing creation. That's beautiful, all right? But now I'm experiencing you, this tiny little ray of light, okay? And it says in the Bible, "I'm a nice Jewish yogi. I read the Bible once..." I shouldn't say that. "I read the Bible once in 1972, and it has never left me." All right? I think Christ's teachings are phenomenal, right? If people understand what he's saying, all right? The deep things he's saying, all right? And the Bible, the Old Testament says, "When you fall from the garden, what happens? Now you must work by the sweat of your brow to be okay." You know anything about that?

• 33:18Speaker 00

  Anybody working hard and getting ulcers and neuroses to be okay? That's it, all right? Where your natural state is, okay, I'm fine. It's fine. It's all God. It's all a quantum field. Okay? I just have something very beautiful once. All right? He said, "Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." So you think, Jonathan, every one of those wavelets, quarks, leptons, bosons, every one of those wavelets has to behave the same that your bedroom is there in the morning. Do you understand that? That your body is there in the morning. Wow, how brilliant is God? I mean, give me a break. And that's happening all over the entire universe.

• 34:03Speaker 00

  You need to expand your mind and your consciousness to be able to start with reality. Then come on down and let's, let's dance. All right? Let's see what we can do on a little planet, middle of nowhere, for a few years. That's what I want you to think. Are you not on a tiny little planet just for a handful of years? Can you handle it?

• 34:26Jonathan Cohen?

  It's amazing. And Maim and I recently have been talking about how powerful just having awe is, how much it can transform how we feel and what our experience is just to stop and pause and look at the intelligence in nature, look at the intelligence all around us and how amazing it is that we even exist. The fact that the light can process and I can see my hand and all the amazing things that are around us. What you describe in terms of our consciousness is expanded already. And why we don't experience it all the time is that we are limiting it.

• 35:05Speaker 00

  Yes, we're distracted.

• 35:06Jonathan Cohen?

  You know, we get a lot of questions from our audience. What do I need to do to feel more okay? More intuitive? Well, how do I increase the synchronicity in my life? And what I'm hearing and, you know, sometimes it used to, I used to think, oh, you have to expand. But actually, what you have to do is stop limiting.

• 35:27Speaker 00

  Stop contracting. Very good. That's beautiful. I always use the example of a magnifying glass. Like, I live in a country, so there's fields, alright? And the sun falls pretty evenly on the field. Take a magnifying glass and hold it in one spot, and you're gonna burn leaves that are below you, right? It took the power of the sun, right? And it limited it down to this one spot. That's what you've done. That's what we've done. We've taken the power of consciousness and limited it down to staring at my little thoughts, my little preferences, my little emotions. It's adorable, isn't it? And that's the cause of all suffering. That's the cause of all suffering. What did Buddha say?

• 36:12Speaker 00

  We talked about, nice to talk about everybody, give equal time, alright? Four noble truths: all of life is suffering. It doesn't mean you broke your arm all the time, right? I mean, he's a negative guy, that's pretty negative, right? It is. You make yourself suffer through your thoughts, you, right? The cause of all suffering is preference. If you didn't mind that it was raining, it wouldn't bother you. If you didn't mind that your wife was in there, wife or husband was in bad mood when they came home and needed some space, you wouldn't yell at them, "Don't treat me like that." You understand that? You would have compassion, you're understanding. It's because you have preferences. Where'd you get your preferences? Don't you dare think you made them up.

• 36:56Speaker 00

  Not a single one of them, right? Based on your past experiences, books you read, experiences you had, people that dumped on you, people that were nice to you, and then you formed these preferences of what I want to go on and what I don't want to go on. And the Buddha teaches that's the cause of all suffering. It's very deep, isn't it? Because it is the cause of all suffering, alright? And somebody once said to me, I gave a talk like that, a very wealthy person came, was hearing one of my talks, and he said, "But I like my preferences." "I own six homes in, uh, out in, there or wherever, alright?" And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he said, "I don't wanna give my preferences." So I thought about it a little bit, and I said, "Okay." You know the saying for the Thursday patriarch,

• 37:40Speaker 00

  "The great way is not difficult for those have no preferences." I said, "He gave me license, the Thursday patriarch, "to change what he said." Are you ready? Here's the edit. "The great way is not difficult for those who prefer everything." It's deep to think about it because it's the truth, all right? It's just, love it, man, right? You're having the time of your life right now.

• 38:05Jonathan Cohen?

  It brings up an important point that we also hear a lot from our community, which is it's easy to feel connected to the universe and everything's great when there is a certain amount of comfort. And you can have an acceptance for the bad mood, but if the bad mood starts attacking you, then you're like, "Well, now how much compassion can I have?" And if you don't have enough to eat, then... So how do we balance this idea of surrendering and experiencing this ultimate consciousness and increasing our connection to all that there is with the material struggle that people go through? Is it only that you'll change your perspective

• 38:49Jonathan Cohen?

  and that you'll feel better about your circumstance? Or is it that doing that work can also lead to material changes in our lives whereby there is more opportunity? That, you know, the universe is trying to help us. Not everyone's going to have six houses, but maybe get us our heads above water and make the struggle of everyday life easier?

• 39:13Speaker 00

  Obviously, it is true that the more you have and the more comfortable you are... And it's funny because I really don't want to say it, but I'll say it, right? The more you have an opportunity to let go and do these different things. Guess what? They don't. Wealthy people have just as much problems. They're just as unhappy. They have just many divorces. Do you understand that? It's not true that having things makes you be okay. Now, of course, there's a limit of food, clothing, and shelter, right? That there's a physiological problem.

• 39:45Speaker 00

  If I don't have those, all the very primitive cultures that have very little, and they measure their happiness, they find that the happiest people out there. You understand that, okay? They just live off the earth, they eat herbs, they do different things, okay? So it's not true that you have to have a lot, or both. Neither is you have to a lot to be okay, or if you have a lot. Come on, we got these billionaires out there. They don't look like they're having so much fun, I'm sorry. Do they? Okay? It's like, why do they have to fight with everybody? Why do they fight with each other? Why does it have to be this constant struggle and headache? Because having things doesn't solve the problem. The problem is how you do it inside. And if you're not doing okay inside, it's because you messed up in there. Straighten it up.

• 40:29Speaker 00

  So let's start there. And then you take the great examples, I was Gandhi. I mean, he was giving a lecture, you know, a political lecture, standing on a stage, very great being, and somebody came up and shot him, right? And so he has this terrible experience. His body's been shot, he's gonna die. What did Gandhi do at that moment, exactly at that moment? He pranam directly to that person as an act of forgiveness, as he fell to the ground and died, right? How would you like to be like that? How would you like to be able to do that? How would you like to be evolved enough, clear enough, to where you're not complaining, right? You just bring Shakti, consciousness, spirit, beauty, love, compassion, down to this plane and set an example.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  Look at that man, did he free the country? You understand that? And then you just realize, it's not about material wealth. It's about your inner state.

• 41:24Mayim Bialik?

  There's this kind of overlap between a notion of compassion and acceptance. And I don't think I had thought of it as so strongly overlapping until hearing you talk about it, that when we tell people to be an acceptance of something, it doesn't mean you have to like it. It means that you have to accept that other things can exist besides what makes you uncomfortable. And what you do with that tension will literally determine your own happiness. Meaning, we are in this prison, right? That we ourselves have the key to release ourselves from. Acceptance is the answer to all my problems today, you know? That notion of...

• 42:10Mayim Bialik?

  I don't like your political opinion, but you have a right to have it. It's based on your own experience, your own perspectives. It doesn't mean that we can't connect because honestly, we're all one anyway.

• 42:26Speaker 00

  It doesn't mean that you're clear and so on, that when you come back, you don't protest. You have every right in the world to take the sum of your learned experiences and with love, with understanding, with compassion, say, you're on that side of the street, hi. I'm on this side of the street, hi, right? And we at least have a chance of talking and working together. So it's not that you do nothing, right? You have the right to express your opinions, right? But do it with love. Do it with, you say it perfectly, do it with the understanding why people have different opinions than you. Correct? And there are certain subjects that we could bring up, I don't, all right? That it's understandable why they have different opinions.

• 43:11Speaker 00

  You understand that? I feel very strongly about the right to so and so. I feel very strongly about this right. And you do, all right? But who's you? Who's you in there that's looking at this mind that got programmed by your past experiences? Can you transcend that programming? And then come down and express yourself and do it, but do it with love and beauty?

• 43:31Mayim Bialik?

  That is very helpful because I think also, you know, there's so much need for cooperation. And so much of that gets lost when there's this polarization. And I won't talk to you because you hold this label. Or I won't talk to this person because they've taken this as their identity. As opposed to how can we work together? It's, there's, you know, really important implications for this on a larger scale. But I wonder, these are all very comfortable things, I think, for many of us to talk about. But I wonder, if you were to talk to someone who has kind of no spiritual framework and no sense of kind of connectedness

• 44:15Mayim Bialik?

  with whatever this consciousness is that we're all talking about, what do you say to a beginner? What do you say to someone who is skeptical or really just doesn't know? How do you frame this for a beginner?

• 44:30Speaker 00

  What I have found, and I started this, I just... Woke up, if you will, back in the early seventies. And I wanted to talk about it. I realized, I'm in here watching me. Right? The witness woke up. I'm in here watching me. Are you in there? Hello, are you in there? And every person I asked, everyone, are you in there? They said, yeah. Okay. You're in there. You know you're in there. What does in there mean? They don't, I don't explain it. I know I'm in here. Okay, I'm in here. I'm not out here. I'm in here. Okay. Okay. What's it like in there?

• 45:07Speaker 00

  And all of a sudden, immediately, it becomes introspective. They've been forced to look in there, not what's it like out here? What's it like in there? And the truth of the matter is, it's scary. It's jealous. It's insecure. It's this, it's that. It's all kinds of stuff, needy, right? It's pretty weird in there, isn't it? Right? That's the start. No more. No religious, no this, no that, no shoving teachings, right? And they wake up. I have people write me. I'll tell you a quick story, all right? When I first started teaching, I've been meditating a whole lot. If you remember my book, you'll find that. And they asked me to teach at this, at this college, all right? And they just gave me a class. And they said, okay, just teach whatever you want. I was very liberal. All right? And I had one lady who came, most, most of them were hippie kids or young kids would come in.

• 45:52Speaker 00

  They sit on the floor. It would have that kind of stuff was going on in the seventies, right? This one lady walked in. She was probably in her late twenties, early thirties. Three-piece suit. Sat straight up in a chair, okay? And she didn't like my course. She didn't like what was being talked about at all. Okay? And when the class was over, course was over. But I taught the course. You want me for a teacher, right? They said, what about my grade? I said, you write me a paper what you got from this course and just tell the truth. And I want to hear what you got and you'll get your grade. Okay, so she was afraid to write because she hated the course. And she hated the course, but she had to come. All right, it was a required course. And so she went to the president of the college.

• 46:36Speaker 00

  Because she was connected, her husband was a great surgeon or something, I don't know. All right, I'm a little hippie boy. And, and went, and I get called in, right, saying, you better deal with this. Because she's very upset and she's afraid you're gonna fail her. I said, I'm not gonna fail her. So we had a little talk, I'll never forget it. This, this is back in seventy-five. All right, wait, I'll never forget it. We had this talk, she says, I'm afraid to go. I said, just write the truth about how you do with the class. You're gonna do just fine, don't worry about it. Okay, so that was my interaction with this lady. Two or three semesters later, I'm gonna cry. I'm teaching night class, and night classes, all the, like, I had literally seven, sixty percent of the people taking my class were not registered.

• 47:19Speaker 00

  They were from the university, they were, it was that kind of time, all right? And I'm sitting there teaching, sitting on the desk in the low, the half-lowest position, teaching this class, they're on the floor, okay? And somebody walks in, I didn't recognize, I, I just, somebody walked in, in the middle of the class, in a tee shirt and jeans, sits down on the floor. Comes up to me, by him afterwards, and says, you won't remember me, but I'm the person who complained about your class. And I said to you, I didn't understand a word that you were talking about, but I did. But I had a terrible marriage, I was a Stepford wife type thing, all right?

• 47:58Speaker 00

  And I couldn't get out of it, and I was locked in this, and I heard every word you said, but I wouldn't let myself think about it. Because I knew I couldn't deal with it, right? Well, he left me, and I got upset, and then, or whatever, I went through my thing. And one day, I was, this is a true story, one day I was walking through a bookstore in Gainesville, right? And I saw this book, Autobiography of a Yogi, and you had mentioned that in your class. And I said, well, I need help, and I picked up the book, my entire life changed, I started doing yoga, I'm the happiest person that ever lived, all right? And thank you so much for what I didn't want to hear you say, and thank God I heard it. Because I brought it all back and lived the rest of my time like that.

• 48:43Speaker 00

  Okay, so when you ask, how do you deal with someone like that? Right? You just bring love and openness and compassion to the situation. You don't push it to go too far. You understand that? You're not trying to shove your teachings down their throat. That doesn't work in any way, shape or form. But that question, are you in there? She was obviously in there. She just didn't want to admit it, right? But the moment the dam broke, bam, all that knowledge, every word that was said to her, all the teachings came right back and she started practicing. Okay, I told you a story, a little bedtime story.

• 49:19Mayim Bialik?

  I wonder, kind of going along this sort of path, people hear higher self a lot. Tap into your higher self, right? And I think, again, it gets kind of thrown around. Can you explain to a beginner, what is the higher self? How do you get in touch with it? And why should you get in touch with it?

• 49:39Speaker 00

  You have stored inside of you a lot of garbage that I wish you didn't have to carry. You understand that? But you are carrying it. And the truth is, you put it in there and only you can let it out. You understand that? It's down there because you are using will constantly, perpetually, to push it back down. That's why it comes back in your dreams. That's what all the psychology is about. The stuff you stored, if you don't store the stuff in there, they don't have a job. AI can't even fix it. So it's because you stored that stuff in there, that's your lower self. Your lower self is those energies that you stored inside, most of which were uncomfortable, almost all of which were uncomfortable, right?

• 50:21Speaker 00

  Expressing themselves in your mind and your emotions. It's all Shakti hitting beautiful energy, hitting the garbage you stored down there, and then coming up as turmoil, coming up as disturbance. That's your lower self. And that's where you end up, your consciousness is addicted. And that's the right word, right? You're more addicted to that part of you, to yourself, your disturbed self, than people are to drugs or alcohol. In fact, they do drugs and alcohol to get away from that stuff. Do you understand that? If you were totally blissed out inside, you would touch them. You're pretty kidding? Why would I bring myself down to make myself drunk or make myself? Play around, okay? So that's your lower self.

• 51:06Speaker 00

  Higher self? The one who's looking at that. The witness. I don't want to use words because they're not ready, right? Do you notice that you have problems? Do you notice when anger starts to come up? Do you notice when you get depressed? Right? How do you? Who notices it? Oh, doctor, I'm so depressed. I've been so depressed. If I were a therapist, you don't want me to be a therapist. I would say, how do you know? Oh, they get mad at me. How do I know what? Right? How do you know you're depressed? Well, I'm in here. Like, oh, it's so spiritual. I mean, who's in there? Who's in there noticing you're depressed? Who's in there noticing you get happy? Who's in that higher self? The one who's in there noticing the consciousness, right?

• 51:51Speaker 00

  Is looking at the lower self. That's why it's called higher, lower.

• 51:55Jonathan Cohen?

  It's a beautiful explanation. And I think we need to really take a second and talk about how we are addicted to the chaos and turmoil of that pattern you described. Like, if I think about that for a second, all the other behavior people have is coming back to the addiction to that chaos. It's a spike. It's an adrenaline. It's, I can't handle this. And this is the problem. And then the mind goes off on all the tangents to map it, to understand it, to blame someone. And if this didn't happen to me, I wouldn't have this characteristics. And the thousands and millions of hours

• 52:38Jonathan Cohen?

  and billions of dollars spent trying to extract ourselves from this pattern of chaos. But really, what it is, is an addiction to that spike of energy.

• 52:49Speaker 00

  You're absolutely correct. Right? But I, when I really get into deep description of what's going on, it's all what we call shakti. It's all spirit. It's all shakti, all right? And what's supposed to be happening is it's coming down and passing through you. And you're having experiences. And every experience you have makes you a greater being. If you've never touched a piano and you touch one note, you're a greater being than you were before you touched that note. You now know more, correct? Every single experience in life is teaching you.

• 53:21Speaker 00

  Okay, but we can't handle it. So we resist. And the stuff you resist, you push down. Now that energy can't flow freely. It can't flow up. It hits all your garbage and it hits your stuff. All right? And then it tries to find a pathway. Means things you like, things you're happy with. So it kind of curves around and says, oh, I'm happy because he said he loved me. Wait a minute, he said he loved her too. Ah! Okay? So if it keeps hitting stuff and you try to find a path through life. That's what we're trying to do. Find a partner, a path through life, that finds a job, right? That makes it through our stuff. We're not trying to get rid of our stuff. Right? We're trying to create an external environment that makes it comfortable to live with our stuff. And then we feel happy if we get what we want.

• 54:06Speaker 00

  And we don't feel happy, we don't get what we want. That is those patterns down there. So the more you let go. I always teach this, right? Don't put more in, any more in. Why would you do that? It's counterproductive. Right? On a daily basis, don't put more down there. All right? Don't resist. And as you do, you learn to not. And then bigger stuff can come up and you'll learn to let it go. And all of a sudden, that which seemed like a big thing. You know, when you're 10 years old and they took your Barbie away, you freaked. Right? Now, I don't care. I outgrew it. Outgrow these problems that you stored when you were younger. And younger means yesterday. And you just keep letting go. And what happens now is the energy flows freely.

• 54:51Speaker 00

  And what happens, and that's what you really want to hear, is at some point, the energy coming in from below. Because it's a cyclical flow from God, human, God, human. All right? What is a human being? God descended. I know it doesn't look like it, but it is. All right? What is, what is the ray of light that is on the field I talked about? That sun that's 93 million miles away. It's that descending. Its rays are coming down. All right? So this consciousness flows through and expresses itself through all these different living expressions. All right? When you clean out. That's a big thing, but when you clean up, it doesn't hit as much stuff.

• 55:35Speaker 00

  Now, it's easier to be okay, alright? Again, quote Christ, right? "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that leaveth the mouth of the Father." "Man does not live by bread alone, the outside world, but by every word that leaveth the mouth of the Father." What does that mean? There's shakti in there, there's spirit in there, there's energy in there that's not associated with the outside, okay? But it's being blocked. As you let go, the two merge, right? The higher self, there is no higher self or lower self anymore. There's just self.

• 56:09Mayim Bialik?

  When you say that everything that's kind of in there, we've put there, and so we have the power to take it out, how do we frame trauma? How do we frame intergenerational trauma? How do we frame this notion that, and it is, it's part of the Buddhist, you know, conversation as well, what have we inherited? What is our legacy, as it were? How do we break free of that? And how much can we say, "I've put this here, I want to take it out," versus, "It feels like something was handed to me that's not mine. How do I release that?"

• 56:41Speaker 00

  You mentioned Buddhist, okay? So if you want to talk about inherited meaning genetically or inherited meaning past lives, I'll go both, right? So for example, when you work with yourself really deeply, you will see that there's stuff in there that's kind of bigger than what your conscience can get hands around. And you have no idea why it's in there. Like somebody's scared to death of heights. Just use that example, alright? Why? Nothing ever happened to them? Then why are you okay with height and you're not okay with height, right? Is that a physiologically, genetically inherited trait? Or is it past lives? I don't care, I'm not selling past lives, I'm not doing anything, right?

• 57:26Speaker 00

  So you see, it doesn't matter. The point is it's in there, okay? What do I do with it? Can it be worked out? The answer is yes. Is it in there? It's not in there because you put it in there. You did, to pass lives, whatever it is, alright? But basically, you are will, you are consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate power of the universe. It created the entire universe. You understand that? Therefore, if it's in there and it's big, and there are big things in there, that people are just freaked to even think about it. They can't even, don't talk about that. You know you don't talk about that around your father. You can't handle that, right? That means there's something in there. Why, alright? And it's trying to come up, it gets triggered, and they can't handle it. The answer is, learn to handle it. Can you learn to handle it?

• 58:11Speaker 00

  Now, you asked me that question. Mickey, is it, Michael, Mickey, whoever I am, I don't know, alright? Basically, can anything that's in there be let go of? Yes. Is there any super glue in there? That's holding cement in there? No. The only reason anything stays in there is because subconsciously, deeply, whatever, will, the power of will, is pushing it down. How do you know? Because when it tries to come back, I push the damn thing back down, don't I? Correct? That means, what if you don't? Well, it's traumatic. I had a traumatic experience. So, don't tell me what if I don't? I know you can't do it right now. But if you can handle the driver in front of you, if you can handle hitting a tennis ball into the net every time,

• 58:56Speaker 00

  until you're practicing it better, you can practice letting go. That's where I've gotten, understanding all my teachings, right? I know it's hard to let go. I know it hurts. It's, it was stored with pain, coming back with pain. You know that, alright? But even old things down there are the same. But you resist them, you react to them. Practice being okay with little things, with the weather, with what somebody said. You're gonna find out, you get better at it, just like you practice the piano, alright? You practice letting go. And all of a sudden, you notice, and eventually, this stuff will come up. I love when people say to me, "I went to work today and something happened at work, and I didn't realize until I was driving home." That would have bothered me in the past. I didn't even notice.

• 59:45Mayim Bialik?

  We're going to hit pause here on our conversation with Michael Singer. We've got a lot more to talk about in part two. We're going to talk about how the surrender experiment is actually the original version of what many people call "let them" and what Mel Robbins has popularized as the "let them" theory.

• 1:00:02Jonathan Cohen?

  We talk about how identifying resistance is the first step in changing your reality.

• 1:00:09Mayim Bialik?

  And we're going to talk about where consciousness actually lives and what happens to it when we die. Stay tuned for part two of our conversation with Michael Singer and from our breakdown to the one we hope you never have, we'll see you next time.