The Best AMG Isn't the 63; Heli Crash; Robotaxi vs Waymo

Matt and Zack are caught off guard by the AMG CLE 53. A helicopter crashes at a cars and coffee event. Zack reviews the Infinite Machine P1. And we answer Patreon questions including: What stupid mod were you almost talked into? Are performance SUVs the answer to bad roads? How to get your dream car sooner than you think Why doesn't Porsche build an M3? What's a cool European RHD car? Our top speed this year is... Favorite steering wheels? What happens when a car brand closes? Help me find a fun car to wrench on for under $30k Famous roads the disappointed us Is there a way to get free-ish track time? How can I convince my partner to understand my car hobby? Why shouldn't I turn this into a track car? And more! Recorded October 14, 2025 Show Notes: DeleteMe Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to www.joindeleteme.com slash TIRE and use promo code TIRE at checkout. Factor Eat smart at https://www. FactorMeals.com/tire50off and use CODE: tire50off to get 50% off your first box, plus Free Breakfast for 1 Year. Quince Layer up this fall with pieces that feel as good as they look. Go to https://www. Quince.com/TIRE for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That’s quince.com/tire TruWerk Get 15% off your first order at https://www. TRUEWERK.com with code tire New merch! Grab a shirt or hoodie and support us! https://thesmokingtireshop.com/ Want your question answered? To listen to the episode the day it's recorded? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! For a 10% discount on your first case go to https://www.offtherecord.com/TST #cars #comedy #podcast Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman Click here for the most honest car reviews out there: https://www.youtube.com/thesmokingtire

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

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• 0:43Matt Farah?

  Alright folks, on this episode Zach and I review the Mercedes CLE53 Cabriolet as well as the Infiniti Machine P1 Scooter. We talk about the most epic Cars and Coffee crash of all time and we have some fabulous questions from our patrons, including how to help some of our patrons break up with their girlfriends because they don't like cars. On this episode of the Smoking Tire, let's go.

• 1:12Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:13Matt Farah?

  Good morning. I have a feeling this coffee cup has a little less coffee in it than I thought it did when I walked in here. And yep, we're down at about an inch and a half. Inch and a half at the bottom.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Oh, I meant only an inch and a half left. It's down, or sorry, from the top.

• 1:29Matt Farah?

  No, no, no, no, from the, from the bottom. This is, this Porsche coffee cup, which I love, matches my car, is both bigger and smaller than, like it's, I think it's like 16 or 18 ounces probably. Oh wait, it's 15 ounces. But because of the design of the sip hole, coffee really comes out of it very slowly.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:54Matt Farah?

  And so that 15 ounces is made to last. Like a, like a 9/11 with an extended tank. That, that, that, you know, that 24 gallon just sips along 600 miles.

• 2:05Speaker 01

  It's a direct injected mouthpiece.

• 2:08Matt Farah?

  Incredibly.

• 2:10Matt Farah?

  Uh, well, I would say it's an efficient coffee delivery. I'd say it's an efficient coffee enjoyment system because it can draw out the amount of time that I'm enjoying my coffee without increasing the amount of coffee.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Get more mileage.

• 2:27Matt Farah?

  Except, I'll tell you what, here's a design flaw in Porsche's design. Look, when I put the lid back on, okay, it's got a flip top lid, works really good. I could, I could like throw this on the floor right now, nothing would spill out of it. There's a really nice like rubber seal that goes into the sip hole and keeps it nice. Um, but watch my face when I sip.

• 2:52Matt Farah?

  Notice the contact of the rubber stopper with the tip of the nose. Now, in this cup of coffee, I will put the equivalent of like one and a half sugar packets in that coffee. Just enough to make the coffee just sweet enough to cut the bitterness, but also just enough that this leaves a sticky residue on my nose. As if I was, as if I was dunking my face in a bowl of chocolate syrup.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  That's also a terrible design, uh, for women or anyone who wears makeup all the time. Like, they would just, it would slowly take it off in a little oval.

• 3:33Matt Farah?

  So, but in this case, um, it, it's really good for like, if you're like ham-fisted and like, if you close this, like this is, this is airtight, water, uh, liquid tight.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 3:44Matt Farah?

  Uh, so you could be pretty clumsy with it in that regard, but yeah. And also, um, it's shaped a little weird because it's designed specifically to fit in 992 cup holders.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  I don't think it's shaped weird. I think it's shaped like, is it the normal width of a can? Like a 12 ounce can?

• 4:00Matt Farah?

  It's shaped like a fountain soda cup.

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Yeah.

• 4:03Matt Farah?

  It's, it's narrower at the bottom and then flares a bit at the top. Um, it is not like the original Yeti size. Like the original Yeti straight will not fit in a 992.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. I have one. It doesn't fit in any of my cup holder. It's very stupid.

• 4:16Matt Farah?

  This is specifically for that, except.

• 4:20Matt Farah?

  There isn't a really good one of these. They need to make a 718 one of these that fits in the pop out cup holders. This, I'm glad the seal is good, because it fucking flops all over.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  Was that because the base isn't held tightly enough? Or is there just too much weight?

• 4:37Matt Farah?

  The base, it's, it's, it's both. Because it has that expandable jup, jup, jup, jup thing for different sizes. Like, if you're rocking like a paper Starbucks cup, the tension will, will like, hold that. But this, it's not, it's too heavy.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:55Matt Farah?

  And it's, it doesn't quite grip it enough. So it just, it wobbles and then it's loose and loose and loose and loose. And it like works its way loose.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  That makes sense, especially if it's full, it's heavier at the top than the bottom.

• 5:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, right.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  So, yeah.

• 5:05Matt Farah?

  But I can't find a, a proper, I mean, and the fact that it fits my, the color of my car, makes me want to use it with the car. It's like a thing. But, uh, I have yet to find a, a Tumblr of some kind that fits perfectly in the 718 cup holder without working itself loose.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  I wonder if there's a shorter Tumblr.

• 5:29Matt Farah?

  There's like, oh, I have like a little one. It's like, maybe like four or six ounces, that's like that. But it's like, it's so small, like I, I, I have this because I want to bring more coffee with me. Not because I want to bring a tiny little bit of coffee with me.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:46Matt Farah?

  I don't know. But, maybe someone knows. If someone out there, and our, our audience is probably-

• 5:52Speaker 01

  NASA's getting fired, like, gutted. So these engineers need something to do.

• 5:56Matt Farah?

  Who is? Aston?

• 5:57Speaker 01

  NASA.

• 5:58Matt Farah?

  Oh, NASA. Yeah, come on NASA. Uh, speaking of space, there is a fucking pilot who, uh, crashed in the jungle in like, South America somewhere. Uh, in a, in a, in a smallish private plane, uh, full of yayo. Okay, like, and it was like, literally like, American corporate looking white dude, fucking, small plane. Like, that, the photo they showed of this motherfucker was the most documentary ready photo. It was like him in like, a Hawaiian shirt, white pants. And again, the whitest looking corporate guy ever, with like, three chicks in bikinis. You know, in like a hotel room in Miami. It was like, alright. And, uh, this guy crashed, whole bunch of yayo on the plane. He died.

• 6:44Matt Farah?

  And, uh, you know, the plane has like no transponder, extra fuel tanks. I mean, the guys obviously moving units, not just once. And

• 6:54Speaker 01

  This is a treasure that's in the forest.

• 6:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and they show the bricks that they have. The bricks are all labeled SpaceX.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  Really?

• 7:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. They're wrapped in like, when I first scrolled in the photo, photo, I was like, I didn't recognize that those were the bricks. I was like, oh shit, this guy's also working for SpaceX? And they found his like, whatever, you know, and I was like, wait, that's the bricks?

• 7:22Speaker 01

  I wonder why they wrapped it in that, like, is that gonna get you past anybody? Or is that just like?

• 7:27Matt Farah?

  I mean, one can only conclude that Elon Musk is running a fucking operation.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  I mean, that feels like a large leap, but maybe.

• 7:34Matt Farah?

  I mean, listen, it's smaller than the fucking leaps his ass is taking over on Twitter every day.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  I mean, that's true.

• 7:40Matt Farah?

  Uh, that is, this is more direct evidence that SpaceX is involved in a drug running operation than he is using for white genocide.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  That's very true. Yeah, yeah. Cause those photos are from like Nigeria or something?

• 7:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, they're, yeah, it was like, not real.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:55Matt Farah?

  Real, but not of the thing that you're talking about or of the time period you're talking about.

• 8:00Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 8:01Matt Farah?

  Yes, both fake. Uh, but anyway.

• 8:04Speaker 01

  It's just all ketamine.

• 8:05Matt Farah?

  Anyway, the new hot fucking shit from South America is that SpaceX.

• 8:10Speaker 01

  Sends you to the moon.

• 8:11Matt Farah?

  Pure. You fucking lift off and then you explode midair.

• 8:15Speaker 01

  Right. It's fantastic. Uh, it's a heavy lift.

• 8:19Matt Farah?

  Uh, I thought that was pretty funny.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  The branding of narcotics is quite funny where we've talked about this before, but like Tesla or Mitsubishi or Mercedes or whatever. And it's just,

• 8:29Matt Farah?

  We went through pill reports. That was a fun show, actually, and I got a lot of fun emails. Uh, apparent, I think we did miss an obvious brand, I think. Maybe it was Ferrari or something. I remember the Mitsubishi's and the Mercedes. I think we found that Mercedes had the most pill reports.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. Ferrari, the logo is very intricate, so it's probably harder to press in. The SpaceX X would go right in there, but it seemed like it led itself to ecstasy.

• 8:53Matt Farah?

  Other X's.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:54Matt Farah?

  Um, pick it, pick an X.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  Of which he has many, yet it's 11 children. How many married?

• 9:00Matt Farah?

  Um, I think it's 13. I think that we know of, whatever. Um, oh, but speaking of, uh, speaking of those things are actually how about speaking of fucking not that at all? Um, the funniest thing that happened, I thought over the weekend, um, was the ultimate. The ultimate game over Cars and Coffee crash will probably never be topped. The helicopter crashing at a Cars and Coffee. That one ups all Mustangs and, and it was, it was in fact the Mustang of helicopters. It was, Ali was right. It was a Bell helicopter, which is the Mustang of helicopters.

• 9:43Matt Farah?

  It was not a Sikorsky or Airbus. It was a Bell, which is the Mustang helicopters. But at the most. Calif, the most OC car show possible, which is.

• 9:54Speaker 01

  We should say that no one died.

• 9:56Matt Farah?

  No, no, that's why you're making fun of it because no one died. If people died, we'd probably not, but, uh, but so this. Apparently there was a mechanical on the helicopter. It caused it to go into a spin.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  Well, the tail rotor, if you, if people, if you haven't heard, there was a crash in Huntington Beach this weekend. Helicopter, it was in the process of taking off, I think, and.

• 10:16Matt Farah?

  Landing.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  Landing.

• 10:17Matt Farah?

  It was, they were still landing. It was literally a Cars and Helicopters Cars and Coffee, and they were landing the helicopters.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  And you can see in the video, the one shot from the beach, the tail rotor is just flings away. And then of course the thing just starts spinning.

• 10:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So the, the story said that before that crash, uh, the guy was doing some like low flying maneuvers, which isn't necessarily dangerous or illegal or anything. Uh, but it looked like he was kind of like, you know, hot dogging a little bit like as one might do, because there is an audience of people there. That's why there's like 20 fucking videos of this. Um, and then, yeah, and then appears to lose a tail rotor somehow and crashes. But, and that's, it's funny because it's a Cars and Coffee and it's a crash. That's why it's funny. But it's funnier that they had the car show anyway. And they just left the crashed helicopter there and had a car show right around it.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  How do you extract a helicopter? This was a, for people listening, if you haven't seen it, this is a big helicopter.

• 11:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  Six, eight seats.

• 11:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  It is large and it wedged itself between a building and palm trees.

• 11:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Probably 20 feet off the ground. Like it's, I think, I think part of the helicopter's on the ground and then the other part of it's like sticking up in the air.

• 11:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like.

• 11:34Speaker 01

  At a 45 degree angle.

• 11:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  You're not, you're not calling AAA. You're not getting Hagerty to pull that thing out of there.

• 11:39Matt Farah?

  They also didn't cancel the event.

• 11:40Speaker 01

  They did not cancel the event, right.

• 11:42Matt Farah?

  And like, apparently it was huge.

• 11:45Speaker 01

  The event?

• 11:45Matt Farah?

  Apparently the event was enormous.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Isn't it the Cars and Copters event? It's humongous. Yeah, the overhead shots from drones. It is well attended.

• 11:54Matt Farah?

  It would, like, imagine.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  So many Montana plates at that event, I bet.

• 11:59Matt Farah?

  Oh my god.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Helicopters too.

• 12:00Matt Farah?

  It's the funniest thing because it's like, it's this, it's this, this event where there is simultaneously like so much white collar crime involved in that area. And also, the event is like hugely sucking up to the cops. It's like, it's like a we love the police fucking blowjob rally.

• 12:22Speaker 01

  Well, it's a 1099 rally.

• 12:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and it's.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  1199, yeah.

• 12:26Matt Farah?

  1099 is a tax, is a tax country. But, and it's also like, the only place I've seen, I, I watched a white cop ask the only, like, young black kid at this entire show to pop his hood. And like, it was kind, it was pretty fucked up. Like, it happened right in front of me. Uh, and I was like, oh, we are definitely in Huntington Beach right now. Um, and it, cause the kid had like a fucking big turbo E30 or a 2J swapped E30 or something. I'm pretty sure I told the story on the podcast a few years ago when it happened, but, um, yeah. So anyway, that's like, that's what you have there.

• 13:05Matt Farah?

  But the fact that there's just a crashed helicopter like in the corner of it among all this other things is pretty fucking funny to me.

• 13:13Speaker 01

  Wow, it was a very scary video. This thing's, man, it's a big helicopter.

• 13:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was a huge, like, executive level. It's like one of those, uh, like a jetcopter. You know, it's like a fast one that you would take from, like, New York City to the Hamptons or something.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. I'm not familiar with jetcopters.

• 13:30Matt Farah?

  Well, no, there's like, there's like little copters, like the little fucking bubble around. And then there's the ones like Mica has, which are like a news helicopter. The ones that you see flying around to do traffic reports and shit.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Oh, right, yes.

• 13:43Matt Farah?

  And then the-

• 13:43Speaker 01

  This is luxury transport. It's the limousine of helicopters.

• 13:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. These are like executive baller shit. Oh, there, well, there goes, the tail rotor does fly off, but it does start spinning before, go back. It starts spinning before the tail rotor flies off.

• 14:00Matt Farah?

  Like-

• 14:02Speaker 01

  That would be-

• 14:03Matt Farah?

  The tail rotor is present there.

• 14:05Speaker 01

  It's there, but it's stopped.

• 14:06Matt Farah?

  So, if you, I don't know, it's hard to see from that angle, but you wonder if he clipped the tree with the tail rotor coming in. Like, does that, like, it's out of frame there. It looks like he wouldn't have. That looks like forced perspective, but, yeah, I mean, there is, there is definitely something very bad and starts to spin, there goes the tail rotor.

• 14:25Speaker 01

  It spins so quickly. I mean, this thing spins five times, four times before it hits the ground. It's not, that's probably a hundred feet off the ground when it starts going wrong, maybe one twenty. It's just above palm tree height. That would be so terrifying. Just all of a sudden, you're like, why are we, why are we spinning?

• 14:41Matt Farah?

  And you have long enough to process that something very, very bad is about to happen.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:46Matt Farah?

  Um, but like,

• 14:50Matt Farah?

  it's kind of funny that it was at a Cars and Coffee, I have to say. I'm sorry, I can't, I can't exit that part of my brain.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  Well, it's, I think, I think I hear what you're saying where, you know, car show is the worst place to have a car accident because you're there to show your car and show everyone how cool you and your car are.

• 15:06Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  And then you do the most embarrassing thing in front of the biggest audience.

• 15:10Matt Farah?

  Right, exactly.

• 15:11Speaker 01

  And so this is, this is, we're all here to show off our helicopters and our Koenigsegg.

• 15:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  And someone crashes.

• 15:17Matt Farah?

  I mean, this appears to maybe not be because the person was showing off. I don't want to, like, throw that kind of, it wasn't. It's not, it's not like the guy, like, trying to do a fucking bank turn and hit a powerline.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  But even if you drive at two miles an hour into a car show and park, like, you are still showing your vehicle.

• 15:33Matt Farah?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  It's a car show and you are showing it off.

• 15:36Matt Farah?

  And they are still showing off the helicopter. You can go look at it.

• 15:40Speaker 01

  Now it's gonna be a monument.

• 15:42Matt Farah?

  It's quite a sight now, yeah.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  It's big, man.

• 15:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  So scary. See, this is the argument against, I've been in helicopters twice, they're amazing and scary. And we talked about this before, we're like, if something goes wrong, you auto-rotate. And yes, that's true if one thing goes wrong. But if this thing goes wrong, you rotate.

• 16:03Matt Farah?

  You also automatically rotate.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  You automatically rotate.

• 16:05Matt Farah?

  The more conventional use of the term and not how helicopters-

• 16:10Speaker 01

  Tail rotor is preventing the helicopter from doing that all the time.

• 16:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, that's bad. They fucking, yeah, they are cool, but man, do they scare me.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz of, you know, and then maybe it's like the EV car fire thing where there's not that many accidents, but they get a lot of attention, especially with social media.

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• 21:22Matt Farah?

  it seems like there's more redundancy and like worst case, you know, you can, you glide like to somewhere, right? Uh, still scary, but you know, the, the, but the, that fear, the falling out of the sky, the just falling out of the sky, which doesn't happen in aircraft, even if you lose all your engines.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  You can glide to a degree, sure.

• 21:46Matt Farah?

  You know, you might crash, but like you're gliding there. You're not fucking falling out of the sky.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 21:51Matt Farah?

  You have a, you got a shot at it.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:53Matt Farah?

  Helicopter.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  It's gotta feel like, you know, if you're flying and your wings suddenly fell off. So I, I looked up, uh, in recent years, the number of helicopter crashes has averaged in the U S has averaged around 80 to 120 per year.

• 22:08Matt Farah?

  Only 11 fatal of those in 2024.

• 22:13Matt Farah?

  Majority survivable.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Worldwide, there are thousands of fatalities annually. Exact global figures may vary. Now, I'd have to look up private plane crashes per year.

• 22:23Matt Farah?

  It's probably, it's probably more plane crashes because there are a lot more planes.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, you need the percentage. Yeah, there's definitely.

• 22:31Matt Farah?

  A thousand accidents annually on average.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  That's more.

• 22:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's more, yeah.

• 22:37Matt Farah?

  But I bet you that's, it's more, but it's, it's, I bet it's proportional to the number of aircraft flying.

• 22:44Speaker 01

  Someone let us know in the comments because I'm sure someone out there is a pilot and they know.

• 22:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, an aviation statistician, that could be helpful. Uh, do you, uh, do you want to talk about that scooter?

• 22:56Speaker 01

  Let's talk about the scooter.

• 22:56Matt Farah?

  All right, scooter life.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  Let's get into scooter life.

• 23:00Matt Farah?

  Scooter life. Dude, I've been riding my scooter too. I'm excited.

• 23:03Speaker 01

  The stand-up one? I need to try this thing.

• 23:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. It's fucking nuts.

• 23:06Speaker 01

  I have a helmet I keep here now and I'm gonna fucking wear it.

• 23:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you should.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  Fifty miles an hour on a stand-up scooter.

• 23:13Matt Farah?

  This is a different scooter.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  This is a different scooter. So this was loaned to me for a week, a few weeks ago. This is called the Infinite Machine P1. And yes, it looks a lot like the Cybertruck or inspired by. Because one of the people who designed this scooter worked on the Cybertruck team.

• 23:30Speaker 01

  Now, they brought us a prototype a year ago. It had some issues. They took it back. But now I got to ride the early production version. So they are for sale and they are, uh, delivery's starting in California soon. There are already some out on the East Coast. Um, all right, so what is this thing? It's got a six kilowatt motor. Range is 60 miles. Top speed is 65 miles per hour, which is pretty fast.

• 23:55Matt Farah?

  Did you experience either of those things? Either 65 miles an hour or 60 miles of range?

• 24:02Speaker 01

  No, I did not ride it that much due to, let's call it a registration situation. Um, so I did not test the range and I also did not top it out. I think I went 40 something miles per hour on it and that was fine.

• 24:15Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 24:16Speaker 01

  So I can't, you're right, I can't attest that it can achieve either of these things. So that is a good point. Um, the pros of this, I will say that it rode very well. The suspension setup was good. The damping is good. It had a refined ride. Um, it had, it has CarPlay that worked excellent. You can use your phone as a key that worked very well, totally seamless. And I actually. Actually, the key fell out of my pocket at one point, and so they had to add my phone as a key. And it worked. You approach it, you can unlock it, you can turn it on, all that stuff. It's got a little storage under the seat, which locks, and you can unlock with a button. You can take the battery out, so they're pitching that as if you live in New York, where I guess scooter theft is common.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  You can at least take the battery out, and it's, people are less inclined to steal it. It also locks itself, so it won't just roll in neutral.

• 25:07Matt Farah?

  Do you then charge the battery on a dock in your apartment?

• 25:10Speaker 01

  Well, that's the other thing. If you live in New York, people like, they're not gonna run a cable out to it, so they can bring the... Yeah, good point. You can bring the battery inside, charge it inside. So there's kind of, I guess, two reasons to do that. Battery's heavy, of course, because it's a fucking battery, but it comes out pretty easily.

• 25:24Matt Farah?

  Is it like, like a car battery?

• 25:26Speaker 01

  No, no, I mean, it's a lithium ion proprietary thing.

• 25:28Matt Farah?

  I can't think about, I can't picture the size and weight of this battery.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  Like a thick VHS tape, or for anyone who's listening who's not as old as we are, like a really big book. But it probably weighs...

• 25:39Matt Farah?

  Okay, well, that's not that bad.

• 25:40Speaker 01

  Probably like 20 pounds, I think.

• 25:41Matt Farah?

  Oh, alright, alright, that's actually smaller than I was thinking.

• 25:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, it just, it's under the, it's in the floor, like, right where your feet land. So that's where that sits.

• 25:51Speaker 01

  It's got reverse, which is cool. It's a little button you press, and it like, it does, you know, you just tap it, and it just nudges you backwards. And at first, I thought, oh, that's silly, shouldn't you just twist the handle, or I can't modulate this, but actually, that's all you need. It's just like, tap, tap, it rolls you backwards, and then you're underway.

• 26:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you'd only ever use it if you had to park it, like, kind of on a little down, if for some reason, you had to back it up, like, up a hill. It's the only reason you would use that, and that's like, yeah, that's like the only annoying thing about scooters sometimes.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I didn't, and at the time, I think I was riding, my back was extra messed up, so I didn't really wanna shove something backwards and all that.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  Let's see, so two negatives, start with the lighter one first. The glove box, which resides just under the handlebars, is terrible. And just flops open, wouldn't close, the little click thing doesn't, it has like two tabs on each side and then the lock thing in the middle. And after two days, like, it would just flex open. Also, someone could break into it with like a toothpick.

• 26:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 26:52Speaker 01

  It's very flimsy.

• 26:53Matt Farah?

  That's not good.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  And the other negative is the price, because it's $10,000. And the reason this is important, and we've talked about this a lot with electric stuff, so I looked up the competition. A Vespa Electrica, or Electrica, is eight grand and costs, or you know, will top speed 45 miles per hour.

• 27:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the problem with the Vespa is they're really slow. It's the equivalent of the 50cc, where this is the equivalent of the Vespa 150cc. So, not exactly the same, but cheaper.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  But I think my point is that, no, no, my point was that EV scooters of all kinds are expensive. The Vespa's cheaper, it's not as good or as powerful, but, you know, that's $8,000, and you get 60 miles of range, and you can go 65 miles per hour. Whereas your Vespa, what was your Vespa new, if you'd bought it new?

• 27:40Matt Farah?

  So, the problem is, the Vespa, the Vespa like, is so good that it eliminates any other competition in fucking two seconds. Because, like, these like EV luxury like scooter things are cool, they're stylish, they're interesting, and yes, like, they are nice to ride for the most part, but motorcycles are so fucking fuel efficient, and they're so practical. And the Vespa in particular is so good at its job, with a cargo box behind and the cargo box below, especially mine.

• 28:22Matt Farah?

  Now, mine was like 8900 new, but it's a 300, and goes 80 miles an hour, and you can ride it on the highway. It has all different shit. I bought it used for 5200, five years ago.

• 28:36Matt Farah?

  And I just looked a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity, I could sell it at a profit.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 28:41Matt Farah?

  Like eas- like on day one, I could put that fucking thing on Facebook Marketplace.

• 28:45Speaker 01

  Everything expensive.

• 28:45Matt Farah?

  It's gone in day one at a profit and I could have 5,000 miles for free. It's gotten me 60 miles a gallon the whole, the whole time and it's like, it's cost nothing. It's not, there's no headaches about it. I've said it over and over, it's the best consumer product I've ever bought.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think these things, it's what you said, it's a luxury product and this, I, I really enjoyed riding on electric power. It's the same thing as a car, it's very relaxing, you just kinda hear the tires. You're just a little more connected to the environment. I mean motorcycles do that too, but you remove the sound, especially if the motorcycle I'm riding doesn't have a cool sound. Then it's like, I don't really care.

• 29:23Matt Farah?

  Oh yeah, I don't give a shit about the sound of, if Vespa made an electric equivalent of what I had, have, I'd probably get it. Just because I enjoy the electric, I can afford it, I charge at home, like whatever. But the reason I asked about the range, I'm, I'm sure that with the right conditions, this thing will do 60 miles an hour. In every electric two wheeled vehicle I've ever ridden, my real world range has been about half of what the manufacturer claims.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  Oh, and if you, and if you're going 60 miles per hour, you're not, and they, they said this, you're definitely not getting 60 miles of range. Like you have to be going slow.

• 29:57Matt Farah?

  Slow, urban, like when I rode that, um, that Can-Am Pulse, which is an electric motorcycle, but really was like a scooter plus. It at, when I rode it to Malibu and back for breakfast, I got 44 miles

• 30:16Matt Farah?

  of, of riding and I had 20% left, but I was essentially holding 30 to 35 miles an hour the whole way. Cause it was very restrictive up PCH and all that. And I, then I tried to ride it like on the freeway and after 10 miles, I'd gone through like 30 miles of range. I was like, oh God. So like the, the faster, at highway speeds, these EV scooters are terrible. Like really terrible.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:44Matt Farah?

  Uh, but in the city, they're great, but in the city, the gas ones are easy too. It's like.

• 30:50Speaker 01

  It, it's a hard sell. This is definitely for someone who has a good chunk of money. It's for a very specific user, in my opinion, like, I don't know how broad they need the market appeal to be, and this is true of. You know, of Infiniti machine and also Vespa, I mean, any of these things. It's, it feels like a luxury thing that someone just goes, oh, this is fun. And I have an EV at home, so I can charge it next to it. And that's just a cool thing to bop around on.

• 31:13Matt Farah?

  And to give them credit, like, the tech, the tech bro perspective, um, which is based in, in truth. Uh, scooters and motorcycles, which have essentially no emissions controls, um, are disproportionately dirty. They may be fuel efficient, but their emissions are disproportionately bad. So like, uh, my Vespa probably produces the same emissions as like a 911. You know, because it doesn't have a cat or anything like that. And so if you're a tech person, you go, well, let's, let's work on the dirtiest stuff first. Let's get rid of lawnmowers and leaf blowers and, and, and, and scooters and motorcycles. Because, because they're disproportionately dirty.

• 31:58Matt Farah?

  And I've heard that thinking a few times. Um, I just don't think consumers are willing to pay the kind of markup that they demand, along with put up with the level of inconvenience that they require at this point. I, I think they'd be better off fucking catalyzing motorcycles. Like, how easy would it be to just fucking invent emissions controls for motorcycles? Compared to making everybody do this shit?

• 32:26Speaker 01

  I think it's a question of

• 32:28Matt Farah?

  And no one's making anybody.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Do, are electric scooters more popular in either different regions of the US? Or Europe or something like, obviously, there's far more scooters per capita in Europe, in different countries. Small cities, every, etcetera, things, streets are narrow. Um, do people like them there? Because you can just bring the battery in and it keeps the sound down, which is kind of cool. Instead of, and to your point, you know, if you're in Italy, like, you smell two strokes and dirty four-stroke engine exhaust all over the place. So this could be cool for that.

• 32:57Matt Farah?

  Getting rid of two strokes would probably be, I mean,

• 33:00Speaker 01

  Those are some of the worst.

• 33:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, yeah, two strokes are nasty stuff.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  I forget which magazine it was, but like, a two-stroke leaf blower is worse, you know, for an hour is worse than like a Raptor for a day or something like that. It was pretty wild.

• 33:11Matt Farah?

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• 35:58Matt Farah?

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• 36:42Matt Farah?

  his, his, his Range trailer, not the big semi one, but the one he built to tow his BMW.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:49Matt Farah?

  That could run lawn equipment fucking all day long.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 36:54Matt Farah?

  You know, if you just, if you had, you know, swappable batteries or whatever, and, you know, you could charge the lawn mowers while going, but driving between, you know, place to place. Like, I wonder what the economics are of selling an electrified gardening setup? If you sold the trailer with like, four mowers and a bunch of leaf blowers and a bunch of fucking weed whackers, all of which could be just charged off the trailer.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know, we, if we, if we, someone has a landscaping company out there, like, seriously, in the comments, are you seeing, are you, are you able to just buy a leaf blower with three extra battery packs and that costs X? Would be better to charge them between, you know, jobs, which would cost Y? I mean, that would be very interesting.

• 37:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah. My guess is landscapers don't make a lot of money and so they're just going for whatever the cheapest thing is.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  I think if, I think people that own the landscaping business, you can do quite well if you have a bunch of teams out there all making money at once.

• 37:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 37:51Speaker 01

  But I wonder how many battery packs, like if you have those electric blowers, like how many of those batteries do you go through in a day for five houses?

• 37:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 37:59Speaker 01

  Be good to know.

• 38:00Matt Farah?

  We use, we use the electric, like the heavy duty Ryobis to dry cars.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 38:07Matt Farah?

  And I mean, not the same as a house, but one battery is pretty much all day.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, they use those at my apartment to blow leaves and stuff.

• 38:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And I have, you know, I have one at home too. It's like for homes to use, they're fucking awesome. Although my, mine has a weird, we've had my, my little leaf blower for like, I don't know, a while and I think it needs to be replaced now because it, it, it won't, it can't turn off. If you put the battery in, the battery pack, it goes, it maintains a slow idle, but that's still blowing and then it, it, it works fine, but to, to, to make it like stop blowing all air, you have to take the battery out.

• 38:52Speaker 01

  Has it always been that way?

• 38:53Matt Farah?

  No, it started doing that like six months ago.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  It's becoming aware, sentient.

• 38:58Matt Farah?

  It's like, it's just got like a mellow idle. I think, I imagine like something in the trigger isn't like fully releasing or whatever and we've tried to like take it apart, but like dude, this thing is like 80 bucks. We've had it for a long, long time. It's probably just dying. But for now I'm okay just taking the battery, yeah.

• 39:16Speaker 01

  You know who loves those inventions is F1 teams. Cause like when the cars pull in or they're on the, on the grid or whatever, they just, they have all these purpose built things that shove into the intakes and it keeps flowing air.

• 39:26Matt Farah?

  And into the brakes and stuff, yeah. So the brakes don't catch on fire when they come to stop.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  What did they do before? Just fans? Just like?

• 39:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, or, I mean, uh, yes, and maybe the engines didn't require the same type of cooling, or maybe they, they just accepted the loss of efficiency of a heat soaked car for a lap or something.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, maybe the tech, maybe the air blowing tech allowed them to change the brakes or engine design because they went, "Ooh, we can cool this. That's pretty cool."

• 39:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, like if you, if you can do, do a little extra juice during a pit stop, maybe you can make it 1% lighter or something, you know? Uh, before we, okay, so, so, it's, it's, I think it looks weird, but it's, it's, you, the review of this is the same as the review of every fucking electric scooter. They're just too expensive for what you're getting.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:18Matt Farah?

  And I don't even know, like, there's gotta be a very small number of people that are looking to make a fashion statement with something like that, too, like, it's not that fashionable.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  Well, I, I agree with you, but I think, look at the number of people that thought, that think the Cybertruck looks good, and, you know, for everyone who likes a Vespa, there's probably someone who thinks the Vespa is too whatever, and they go, "Oh, this thing got lots of thumbs up, it got lots of stare," exactly, you know, you're being feminine, whatever.

• 40:47Matt Farah?

  Very manly men. Can't believe that someone like me would ride a Vespa. A manly man would mow.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, there's scooter design, motorcycle design, it, you know, it comes in all colors and forms, so I can see people like this.

• 41:02Matt Farah?

  Meanwhile, a fucking Italian man in a scarf is banging their wife on their fucking girls' trip, so.

• 41:08Matt Farah?

  He rolled up on a Vespa, and he fucking rolled out, so.

• 41:12Speaker 01

  His confidence is more important, yeah.

• 41:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, listen, it's the, the green Vespa, it's exactly like the pink Porsche. If you're gonna fucking get a, a fun thing, get, get the one that girls like. That's, it's just, that's just a pro tip from someone who's been there and bought a lot of shit. Trust me.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  Now, I think women like your Porsche more than they like the black Mustang.

• 41:34Matt Farah?

  Bro, I li, I literally had a supermodel. What, you in the pink, that's you? I need to know about that. That's, that's, you don't need more data than that. That's the, that's enough. Thank you very much. I'm retiring.

• 41:51Matt Farah?

  I met, uh, I met a guy who had some really cool, uh, pink cars. Um, he was showing me at, uh, at Willow the other day. Um, that was a really fun event. I really enjoyed all talking to all the people that we were there. Uh, can I review the Mercedes CLE 53 convertible real quick? Mm-hmm. There's, uh, photos of it on, uh, on the gram right there. I got, oh, you drove it too? You drove it because we used it for, uh, for, uh, a thing for that day. I have to say, it's not that I, like, this isn't my type of car. Uh, it's a, an AMG 53, so it's not the biggest engine. It's like the middle one. Um, although for the time being,

• 42:35Matt Farah?

  it is the biggest one you can get in this car, uh, by displacement until the new V8 finally comes out. But the inline six, um, uh, with a mild hybrid and turbos, uh, it's all-wheel-drive. It's a two-plus-two cabriolet, and normally this would not be my type of car. I fucking loved this car. I thought this car was so good at so many things. It was like eights across the board. Um, it's, it's, it, uh, the engine, inline six, uh, with a 48-volt mild hybrid, incredibly smooth. Um, and with that mild hybrid system, I didn't even bother turning off the start-stop. Just left it on, it was fine. Uh, the seats are the same

• 43:18Matt Farah?

  as the AMG GTs, very adjustable, um, you know, good lumbar and, and nice shape, but not too, too sporty. Uh, top goes up and down, and it's not the fastest. It's maybe like 14 seconds, but you can do it at up to 30 miles an hour. Um, the, uh, the dashboard, the interior, that's all like the same as Mercedes. It's the, it's the same as the SL, same as the rest of it. But I did like the tuck, this one had the tuxedo wood, wood pinstriping, you know that wood? Mm-hmm. It's, that's lovely. Yeah, it looks nice. Uh, I like the wheels. It's got PSS5 tires. Um, I happen to think it's a very good-looking car. I got so many compliments, so many compliments driving this around. I could not believe

• 44:00Matt Farah?

  how many people noticed this car, especially because it was gray. It's not like a, a pop color. It's a good-looking car. Uh, but man, did, did my neighbors and every, everybody, wherever I went with this car, people really liked it. Um...

• 44:16Matt Farah?

  But the most impressive thing to me about this by a lot is the shock tuning. Um, it's really nice to drive on the street, handles a 405 really well. The everyday comfort setting is not too wallowy and sloppy. But up in the canyons, uh, I took, uh, me and Ali ran over Payuma, which is bumpy right now. And with the shocks in sport and everything else in sport plus, the body control was amazing. And Ali was a racing engineer, like he's built shocks, he rebuilds the shocks in his own car. He was like, dude, what, who tuned this? Like it was so good.

• 44:53Matt Farah?

  It had such a nice balance of, and, and I don't know about on track, but like on a regular windy, somewhat bumpy canyon road. This thing was sticky, pointy, plenty of grip, didn't beat you up. Like for a regular person, this is a great sports coupe. Like if you're used to GT3s, it's not like crazy or anything, but like very, very, very well-rounded. Um, I'd rather drive this than an M3.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  Uh, it was definitely more comfortable than.

• 45:24Matt Farah?

  I'd rather, I'd rather actually have this as my car than an M3 or M4 for sure.

• 45:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, those are really stiff. I think, I think when you get into really sporty driving, those will, uh, beat this thing, you know, both.

• 45:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, on a track or something.

• 45:38Speaker 01

  But around town, I, I, this thing drove really, really nice, it's a nice size.

• 45:42Matt Farah?

  Or having a nice go up the mountain, like it's, dude, it's 449 horsepower, I think. Uh, 443 horsepower, um, and 413 torque, but it does have a, a torque overboost function. So you can get an extra 30 for short bursts.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  But also the big thing is that as we've talked about, the little four banger that they put in some of their cars, like the AMG cars, is so buzzy, so loud, feels, does not feel luxurious, does not feel expensive. It feels like your kid stole your engine and replaced it with the engine from his turbo, like swapped, you know, Civic.

• 46:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's like an Evo motor, like a hot Evo motor.

• 46:19Speaker 01

  And it's, yeah, this inline six, super smooth of course, and this just suits the car and the mission of the car and the mission of a lot of the brands' models, I think way, way better.

• 46:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, AMG is about really good. Powerful luxurious engines and this actually does it does get there like it's not the fastest thing I've ever driven but that's a great engine great powertrain um and and I and I was really really impressed uh with how much I liked driving it in the corners driving in the highway uh it's nice with the top down although if it's cold out and you try to drive with the top down even with the air scarf where my between my left hand and my left knee is a a they get sucked a pocket of

• 47:06Speaker 01

  A low pressure zone.

• 47:07Matt Farah?

  Freezing air it's a low pressure zone yeah um but very few gripes with this car I don't you know I still don't love the touchscreen the big touchscreen but it it's the same as all Mercedes now I can't like this car it's not any better or worse than the other ones when it comes to touchscreen people asked if the top down if that uh made the screen less readable there's a thing to tilt the angle of it a few degrees either way if it's problematic I didn't find that to be a problem I don't love that system but um everything else about this car I really did like the top buttons are real buttons to operate the top they don't have the touchscreen like the SL

• 47:44Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 47:44Matt Farah?

  They got rid of that thank god.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:47Matt Farah?

  But uh and the trunk is it's not that it's small it's that it's kinda weird shaped Very. Uh because of where the top has to go so you have a a sort of full height portion at the back but then a half height portion that goes forward from there so I don't know you'd have to

• 48:06Speaker 01

  It's a mouth with teeth.

• 48:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  That's what it is and it's it's open and but you gotta like you know you gotta slide the medicine in there like you know.

• 48:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah I didn't try I didn't try to get suitcases in there um and but the camera case did fit in there.

• 48:20Speaker 01

  I mean it looks like it'll probably hold two carry-ons.

• 48:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 48:23Speaker 01

  Or you know something like that.

• 48:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah uh but in general this was a hundred grand um but I and which is oh it's not nothing it's a lot of money but I have to say I think it I think the the quality of the car justifies the price I really do this one's loaded with options you could get something very similar with without two-tone interior and a color match top you could you could uncheck some aesthetic boxes on this and probably save ten grand um but I really do think it justifies the price it's it's in my opinion nicer to drive than the SL which costs a lot more. And it's a, it's a real, it was a real surprise, surprise and delight, uh, how much I liked this car.

• 49:09Matt Farah?

  And, uh, a couple of people who saw it and I said, yeah, it's a hundred, it was a hundred and one thousand dollars out the door. And they thought that was low. They said, oh, I thought you were going to say 150. So.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  It also makes more power. So I just looked up, um, BMW's competitor. M440i convertible comes with 386 horsepower, starts at 74 grand. If you add much options, you'll probably hit a hundred. We should, we could get one of those, compare it.

• 49:36Matt Farah?

  Well, this makes a lot more power than that.

• 49:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, it does. Seven with 60 more horsepower.

• 49:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah, a lot more. Yeah. This is a really, really nice car. Do not sleep on the 53s. Uh, they're, they're nice, but this, this CLE 53, it replaces the C-Class convertible and the E-Class convertible. It's now like one, which is probably for the best. Um, but damn, I'm, I, it went back yesterday. And, uh, if not for the rain this week, I'd say I would really miss it because it was fucking nice.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  Nice surprise.

• 50:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, really nice surprise. Really nice surprise from there, uh, from that. Should we go to the people?

• 50:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:15Matt Farah?

  We got, uh, some Patreons who have some things to say. The Patreon is open at patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast written out. You can get more show, you can get early show, you can get, uh, shows without ads. You can get access to special, uh, merch collabs. Uh, for instance, the, uh, Black Mother of Pearl notice did not make it out of the Patreon. In fact, I don't think the, I don't think the mint one did either. The first one only went to patrons, I think. Um, and I am, uh, we're officially working on the new watch. We have, we have two, we have two ideas. I've been talking to Wes at notice. We have two ideas. One.

• 51:01Matt Farah?

  Is the all-new watch, which I have delivered my requirements for the first draft. And we'll see what the first ones look like, and then we'll tweak and tweak, and then we'll have a, we'll have an all-new watch, which is gonna be really fun, something I'm really excited about doing. And I pulled out one of the prototype canyons to show to Ali one of the colors we didn't make, and he was like, "You're not gonna make this?" And he was like offended that I wasn't gonna make it. And he was like, "I personally know like three or four people that would buy that, that would buy this right now." Wow. And so I was like, I went back to Wes and I was like, "Ah, maybe we revisit, maybe

• 51:44Matt Farah?

  we do a, one, one more color." So we're kids, we're noodling it, and we'll see if, if we could, if we can maybe get it done. But, but either way, patrons always get first crack at, at my watch designs. So, uh, let's go to them. I still can't, I gotta find out, Zach, what the right pair of glasses is for reading the monitor. Well, this is pretty far away. It's pretty far. So your readers- Can you make it bigger? Can you make this 125%? For sure. And maybe, yeah. Alright, 125, no glasses. Yeah. Is the science on that. Bruno, nog, naga, naga, not gonna be a patron here anymore,

• 52:26Matt Farah?

  is it? Uh, sorry. Bruno Nagamra, Nagamra. Uh, oh, just wanted to say hi, new patron, shout, oh, there's a question. Here we go. Okay, "When I was 16 and thought my 91 Accord 5-speed was a badass tuner car."

• 52:40Speaker 01

  It was.

• 52:40Matt Farah?

  It was, and still is. "I spent a lot of time perusing the goods, they saw a sucker, and almost convinced me to spend a hundred bucks as a, earned as a Subway sandwich artist", shout out to him, "on a Greddy exhaust sticker to plaster across my hood, cuz it was cool, even though I had nothing Greddy on the car. Uh, do you all remember a time way back when, before you knew any better, that you were, uh, were or narrowly avoided being scammed in the context of cars?" So, okay.

• 53:12Matt Farah?

  Here's the thing. I don't know that I was ever scammed. But I definitely spent money on things that were going on my car. That the person selling them to me probably rolled their eyes and went, "Okay, kid, whatever." And it was garbage. And like, they didn't say, "Hey, like, you're gonna look like a loser if you put..."

• 53:37Speaker 01

  You scammed yourself. That's what you did.

• 53:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I didn't like need someone to scam me.

• 53:42Speaker 01

  You were like, "Hey, Matt, let's put a T-handle in the Subaru." And your other Matt was like, "That's a good idea."

• 53:46Matt Farah?

  Totally, yeah. And I literally bought my exhaust for that Subaru at like Autozone. And it was not an exhaust for a Subaru. It was like a generic muffler with tips that like, yeah, like I was dumb enough to do that to myself.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  But also, that does work. You know, if it looks right, I mean, it's ultimately a can.

• 54:05Matt Farah?

  It didn't like not work, actually. I mean, it like, it fit and it, you know, and it did sound like alright. It wasn't like horrible, but I, but it was definitely like, I don't know, like a Magna Flow, you know, muffler that was just generic. Yeah. I didn't, did you ever get scammed like that?

• 54:22Speaker 01

  I don't think I ever got scammed into anything. I bought dice for my car, cause I had a 65 Pontiac and I thought I was 85 years old.

• 54:28Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  I think that's, that's the closest I came.

• 54:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh, good question though. Welcome to the, welcome to the program here. Mr. Nailhead says, "Oh, a name idea for a new YouTube channel." Uh, STP Plus, Smoking Tire Porsches? I mean, I don't-

• 54:46Speaker 01

  It feels clunky.

• 54:47Matt Farah?

  Huh?

• 54:48Speaker 01

  I think it feels clunky.

• 54:49Matt Farah?

  It does feel a little clunky. I like where your head is at. I mean, there's probably an argument that we could just do all Porsches on one channel and everything else on another channel. Uh, there's probably a math argument.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  That'd be a way to do it. I think it'd be, if anything, it'd be TSTP Plus, which is also clunky, but you know, we have, we've had so much-

• 55:09Matt Farah?

  Wait, no, how about T- TSTPTS.

• 55:15Speaker 01

  Oh, I see.

• 55:16Matt Farah?

  It's a palindrome, dude.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Paint a sample.

• 55:18Matt Farah?

  TSTPTS. See? When you wanna fucking name something, you come to Farrah.

• 55:23Speaker 01

  Well, this was, uh, the spaghetti throwing at the wall thing. He, he-

• 55:28Matt Farah?

  That's true.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  He posted the idea.

• 55:29Matt Farah?

  True. He lobbed, he lobbed, he lobbed. Thank you for the alley-oop, Mr. Nailhead. Good looking out. AM 87, I'm in-

• 55:38Matt Farah?

  What the, where, where is that?

• 55:39Speaker 01

  I don't know where that is.

• 55:40Matt Farah?

  Oh, oh, wait. Is that Mexico City? Ciudad Mexico?

• 55:45Speaker 01

  Oh, maybe.

• 55:45Matt Farah?

  I'm in CDMX right now. I think that's Ciudad Mexico. I think.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 55:52Matt Farah?

  Okay, okay, cool, sorry. I didn't, I, now I can call it that. Cool, okay. And as hip and wealthy as parts of the city are, it is absolutely terrible for sports car driving. No shit, dude, Mexico sucks for sports cars. That's why they run Baja there, not LeMans.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  Their potholes are rivaled only by our own.

• 56:10Matt Farah?

  Dude, I love Mexico, but it's fucked up to drive down there.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  I had a rental car, I left the airport and I was like, why are there so many holes in the tarmac?

• 56:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, uh, is part of the reason for the super SUV uh, from the performance marks to introduce their brands to these markets where the driving environment is less than stellar. I mean, like, it's not even that, it's like in fucking, in, in places that aren't Mexico, our infrastructure is crumbling and people, I wanna drive a Lamborghini but not drive a Lamborghini, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wanna drive a Lamborghini, but I don't wanna drive some low, loud, scrappy thing. I just want it to like, you know, be a Lamborghini, but also be like a regular ass car.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:54Matt Farah?

  Like, that's how people think here.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  But I think this is definitely a bonus selling point if you're in an area, like, we went to Panama.

• 57:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 57:00Speaker 01

  A lot of tarmac, a lot of roads around were just dirt.

• 57:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 57:03Speaker 01

  And they went to houses and stuff, so you can then drive your Lamborghini anywhere in the country or area you reside. But also, if you're older, getting into a sports car kinda sucks, like, there's so many benefits, we'll say. And so many reasons that it was easy to sell high-performance crossovers to, you know, slightly aging market.

• 57:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, once, once Porsche opened the door to a very fast SUV, and BMW, and Mercedes, uh, a little bit behind. The AMG, uh, the, the... Mercedes may have been, the ML55 may have been slightly earlier than the Cayenne Turbo, but the Cayenne Turbo had like a hundred more horsepower and went way faster. Once they realized that you could do an SUV that was stupidly fast and deep in the six figures, all of those brands, especially the Volkswagen AG brands, were like, wait a minute, we could platform this bitch up to a Bentley? And BMW was like, wait a minute, we could go up to a roll, you know, like,

• 58:05Matt Farah?

  dude, once that, the floodgates were open on that shit. Cause now it's like, now it's not the weekend car anymore. Now I could sell these people their regular car for 400 grand, and it's really a fucking Q8 under there. You know, as nice as the Urus drives, like, let's fucking call a spade a spade. Uh, Baymobile. My grandfather had a dream of owning a 911. My father got to, got the chance to fulfill his promise after he passed. Now, if you really, he fulfilled his promise by committing a fraud, by registering the car in my dead father's name, no. Uh, my, that, nevermind.

• 58:44Speaker 01

  I know, I know what you mean, yeah.

• 58:46Matt Farah?

  I'm not gonna, not gonna.

• 58:47Speaker 01

  And he got that dream after he died from somebody else. Somebody else has his dream, really.

• 58:52Matt Farah?

  Can I just say for the record? If I die with unfulfilled dreams, don't fulfill them. Fulfill your own dreams instead, you know what I mean?

• 59:03Speaker 01

  Oh, it's like bragging, you know, you're.

• 59:05Matt Farah?

  I won't know, I'm gone, I'm gone.

• 59:08Speaker 01

  And if you do know, because of afterlife, whatever, you're going, well, I wanted to do that.

• 59:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I'm fucking gone, yeah, I'll be gone. Uh, my hope is to achieve the same goal, of getting a manual transmission, naturally aspirated, flat-six masterpiece, brand new from Porsche. How wide is my window on this goal? Or can I rest easy knowing I'll always have this an option? You're asking, how long will they be selling naturally aspirated, manual transmission, flat-sixes?

• 59:37Matt Farah?

  The future question.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  And this is a very specific future question, too.

• 59:43Matt Farah?

  Extremely specific. By the way, grandfather had a dream of owning a Porsche 911, but in order for you to fulfill this dream, it must be a brand new naturally aspirated manual transmission car. You're not making it easier on yourself, buddy.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  Right. There are plenty of them for sale right now.

• 59:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah. You could, yeah, okay. So, I mean, the story be damned here.

• 1:00:08Matt Farah?

  Porsche is making, at least through the next, it's gotta be 10 years, manual transmission GT3s. And probably, probably some kind of Cayman variant, probably, you know, uh, cause they'd be stupid not to. Cause they're, you know, they're ditching the, they say they're ditching the regular 718 gas powertrains, but the GT cars are gonna be gas. That's what they're saying. So like, your options are really gonna be like two cars. GT3, GT4. Like those are, that's it. So, but like, come on. Does it have to be new?

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  There's so much fun to be had with a used one.

• 1:00:52Matt Farah?

  I know.

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  Some of the cars, in some ways, are better than the new ones. They're smaller, they're easy, you know, lighter. Uh, there's a lot of fun to be had.

• 1:01:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  At many, many price points.

• 1:01:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah. No, but your, your, your window's not infinite, but if you have enough money to go for a GT3, you got probably 10 years at least.

• 1:01:12Speaker 01

  But also, you could attain your dream sooner if you buy a used one.

• 1:01:17Matt Farah?

  Yes. You could also just do this, I don't, I don't, I don't know how much money you have, but like, you could also just do this now.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  Well, a brand new GT3 is 200 to 300 grand, right?

• 1:01:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:26Speaker 01

  And a used one of some age is like 150, maybe, maybe less if you get a high mileage one. Like you can take.

• 1:01:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but.

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  Depending how much money this person has, like you could take years off of your dream.

• 1:01:38Matt Farah?

  Well, they don't have, it doesn't have to be a GT3. There's, there's a million naturally aspirated Carrera variants that are lovely. Like, I just, uh.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  I think they should broaden their horizon.

• 1:01:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I don't, I don't think you should put that restriction on yourself. I mean, it's your dream, have it. But like, come on, you know, like, I, the.

• 1:02:02Speaker 01

  Perfection is the enemy of good, right?

• 1:02:03Matt Farah?

  That's what I'm, that's, that's what it is.

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  That's what it is.

• 1:02:06Matt Farah?

  Life's too fucking short to deal, to, to, to have that be the thing.

• 1:02:11Speaker 01

  So David in chat said, this is perfect, bro is peeking through only two bars of a birdcage right now.

• 1:02:24Matt Farah?

  Oh, that's so funny. Right, spot on. Don't do drugs, M113K says, despite the growing trend toward crossovers, the BMW M3 continues to be very popular. Is, huh? Nothing. I said, yes, it does. Oh, yeah. Is there a, a market for smaller, a smaller Porsche sedan to compete with the M3? I don't think Porsche is moving down. They've talked about, when is there gonna be a Porsche hatchback? When is there gonna be a, Porsche is not going down market. They don't have to.

• 1:02:55Speaker 01

  Are they the most profitable car company on earth right now?

• 1:02:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like the base Macan is the down market. Like Panameras aren't doing very well. Like, they're not selling a ton of Panameras. I don't know how the sales are of Taycan compared to Macan Electric now. My bet would be they're selling more Macans than they are Taycans. But like, I, I just.

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  And, and going back to the platforms thing, I think it'd be hard, they'd probably have to use the Macan.

• 1:03:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they would.

• 1:03:25Speaker 01

  But squish it, drop it somehow. And then you just have a lowered Macan, but it would look, I think, more awkward than an M3. Cause it's meant to be a crossover and not a car.

• 1:03:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:35Speaker 01

  So I think you'd run into a bunch of issues.

• 1:03:37Matt Farah?

  And for the record, I'd much rather daily drive a nice Macan than an M3.

• 1:03:41Speaker 01

  Sure, but if I, if I want what a Macan is, or sorry, what an M3 is, and then you just lower a Macan, I'm still gonna want the M3.

• 1:03:47Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 1:03:50Matt Farah?

  Lowered Macans look pretty good. I wouldn't want to drive one like that, but they do look cool.

• 1:03:56Matt Farah?

  Thunder Coogan Falconbird registered trademark. I don't know what that is, but it's awesome. Thinking about trying to get into a right-hand drive car, but I also want something weird. Not just a typical JDM Skyline or something. Were there any right-hand drive European cars that could be fun? I mean, yeah, tons of them. Like England, that's a, that's a real thing. Get a TBR. Sure. That's weird. Yeah. TBR is a great one. Uh, or, you know, a right-hand drive Lotus or Get the good Escort. A Lotus Carlton. Yes. You know, or Escort Cosworth. Escort Cosworth. You know, uh... That is the Skyline of Europe in a way. Yeah.

• 1:04:40Matt Farah?

  There's a bunch of right-hand drive, um, E30 Tourings out there. They're a lot cheaper than the left-hand drive ones. Yeah. I think Vin bought one in Europe, like three grand. Yeah. Pretty cheap if you ship it, then ship it over. Yeah, there's a bu... I mean, there's also weird, there's also a bunch of non-typical Japanese cars. Get a Nissan Pulsar GTIR. Yes. Toyota Starlet. I just saw, Hannah was like, "Baby, this Suzuki Cappuccino on Facebook Marketplace, I want to buy it." And I was like, "Nah." And, and she was like, "Nah," I was like, "You don't even want to drive fucking stick." Like, you can't have, you can't have a stick car if you're not going to drive it. Like, you can buy any car you want, as long as you actually want to drive it, and you're not going to drive that.

• 1:05:24Matt Farah?

  And I don't fit in it. So what are we doing here? And then she showed me a picture of it. This is the nicest modded Suzuki Cappuccino I've ever seen. It looked like a mini Z8 Alpina with like Alpina style. It was fucking sick. I was like, for like 13 grand, I was almost like, "I'm in." But I can't fit in them fucking things. Oh, maybe she learned to drive stick. But like that? Come to like it. Huh? She would learn to drive stick, come to like it. She has.

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  She has dreams.

• 1:05:49Matt Farah?

  Look, she just got rich. She can fucking buy, she doesn't need to ask me. She can buy, she can buy anything she wants. She can fucking go buy a house if she wants now. I don't, it doesn't, makes no difference. But like, I mean, it does make a difference, but like, if she wants a fucking car, she does not need my permission to get anything. But I've, I, I regularly remind her of having cars that you don't plan to use all the time. Like, that's, that's, there, that is a fucking curse to just amass cars you're not driving. So I was like, you fucking buy whatever you want, but you, you have to use it. And I'm not convinced that you are, are, are ready for a stick shift car. She's like not demonstrated that she actually wants to drive stick anywhere.

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  Hmm. You know, it's a great, you know, it would be a legit good car to practice on is the NSX. That is the easiest car to drive.

• 1:06:39Matt Farah?

  It would, yeah, they're, they're super easy, yeah. She is, and she just like, doesn't like it.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:44Matt Farah?

  Like, she can do it.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  But the cappuccino is cool looking.

• 1:06:46Matt Farah?

  She's driven, she's driven multiple stick cars with me in the car and like, a little jerky, but fine. But to get out of that, it's like force yourself to do it for a week to get to the next phase. And she won't do it without me in the car. So like, you know, you gotta practice, practice, practice. Moose Test Wagon 87, oh, sorry, wait, we already talked about the next, it's gonna be more watches. Bad Gardener says, uh, what car you've driven this year, did you actually hit the highest speed in?

• 1:07:21Speaker 01

  Uh, I mean, on a racetrack, of course, that's what we're talking about.

• 1:07:27Matt Farah?

  Uh, that's an interesting question.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  Hit 104 in the Ranchero, but it sounded like 300.

• 1:07:35Matt Farah?

  No, it's, uh.

• 1:07:38Matt Farah?

  You know, I haven't, I haven't had all that much room to really, really, really go. Well, okay, McLaren 750S Coda hit the brakes at 175 on the back straight.

• 1:07:55Speaker 01

  That's very fast.

• 1:07:56Matt Farah?

  That's fast.

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. And that's roughly within a mile an hour or two of what Jack from Savage Geese was posting about ZR1 at the same track. And he's a good driver.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, he is.

• 1:08:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he's fast. So, and that's a straightaway coming out of a hairpin. So, incremental differences in driver are not going to make a huge difference. It's not like, it's not like, you know, fucking balls to the wall over blind crest, fourth gear, like who's gonna exit that faster? It's like a, you know, that's a 20 mile an hour hairpin onto an enormous straightaway. That's cars and horsepower. I think they're about the same. But we didn't have enough room with ZR1. I don't think I went, 175, I think it must have been the fastest.

• 1:08:39Speaker 01

  It's very fast.

• 1:08:40Matt Farah?

  Right?

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, previously on racetracks, like you went 180, I think, at, uh...

• 1:08:46Matt Farah?

  Cal Speedway, I did 184.

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  Right? But that was a huge, like NASCAR oval, so, yeah, a lot of room.

• 1:08:52Matt Farah?

  Probably 150 in the GTD at Chuck Walla, or I don't know what the fuck number I saw in the GT3. Maybe that was faster, but probably, maybe, probably not, less power. Uh, and I had the...

• 1:09:09Matt Farah?

  No, that was the same McLaren. I didn't have another McLaren. When, when, when calculating how fast you, you've gone this year, you usually start with McLaren and work your way down.

• 1:09:21Speaker 01

  They're very, very, very fast cars.

• 1:09:23Matt Farah?

  But like the Zinger and the ZR1 are, were both insanely fast, but we didn't, we drove, I drove, did not have room

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:09:29Matt Farah?

  to go that fast, either on the road or on, um, yeah. Uh, domesticated Jaguar XGS, will you have Ammo's new Spit Wax, uh, Spit Spray Wax in stock at WCCS? Yes, Larry is like so excited. Spit is probably his most important product. It's basically spray wax, AKA quick detailer, but it's his, all his formulations are proprietary, but like, he's so excited about his new Spit. So, yes, we're gonna have new Spit. We don't have it yet. Um... But we will have it at WCCS. For those who don't know, WCCS, my shops here in LA,

• 1:10:11Matt Farah?

  both of them are the only two places in America where you can physically buy ammo products in a store. Other than that, you have to get them from Larry's website. So if you're in LA and you like ammo products, you can just walk into either of our stores during business hours and just fucking buy it. We have every product they make, except for like the compressors. But we will have new spit as soon as he sends it, probably weeks, you know? But I'm excited. Regular spit is the best. I fucking love it. 6.4 liter hemorrhoids.

• 1:10:45Speaker 01

  I like that one.

• 1:10:45Matt Farah?

  That's very good. What would happen if Stellantis, Nissan, Renault, or VAG fully imploded? Would some of the smaller brands in these larger groups thrive alone? Or would they be too integrated to survive? VAG would be very problematic. I think that's a too big to fail. And the government owns a portion of that company anyway.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:10Matt Farah?

  Stellantis could actually fail, and I think...

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  Well, they've already kinda separated, like Jeep, Ram.

• 1:11:20Matt Farah?

  Jeep and Ram, like...

• 1:11:22Speaker 01

  I think they would continue.

• 1:11:23Matt Farah?

  Could survive.

• 1:11:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:24Matt Farah?

  Chrysler would die. I think the minivan would go, would probably become a Ram.

• 1:11:32Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 1:11:33Matt Farah?

  You know, or whatever. But like, yeah. Nissan, Renault, I don't think would fail. I think if Nissan failed, Renault would probably carry on. Although I don't really know much about the business of Renault, because we don't...

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  I don't either. I think it depends on how much manufacturing is done under one roof for each brand. Like, if you have a factory A is humongous and it makes Renault and Nissan, all of a sudden Nissan's gone. Can you continue to operate that factory without the revenue of selling those extra cars? I don't know.

• 1:12:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, they may have to sell the factories and drastically reduce their operations. Or build cars. Wasn't there a joint venture where Nissan was gonna build cars for Honda or something like that?

• 1:12:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was briefly talked about. But yeah, that could be a thing where Renault goes, "Hey, we're gonna start building cars for Ford over here," whoever, yeah.

• 1:12:27Matt Farah?

  Uh, Bush did 997. What are your favorite steering wheels? Good question. I have many.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  The...

• 1:12:34Matt Farah?

  The Singer Turbo.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  That's a good one.

• 1:12:36Matt Farah?

  Is the best steering wheel I've ever used, I think.

• 1:12:38Speaker 01

  Momo Prototipo is like fantastic, of course.

• 1:12:41Matt Farah?

  That's the like, that's, the Momo Prototipo is the like, you could have this look. You know, it's like, a lot of people could buy a Prototipo.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:12:49Matt Farah?

  And you can put one in a variety of cars.

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:53Matt Farah?

  And achieve the correct vibe.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:12:55Matt Farah?

  You could put it in a 308, you could put it in 911, you could put it in an Alfa Romeo, you could put it in almost any European sports car, you could put a Prototipo in and it will aesthetically make sense. And it'll feel right.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  The Spiker is one of my favorite to look at.

• 1:13:11Matt Farah?

  The original Spiker.

• 1:13:12Speaker 01

  The original Spiker, even though it's like, it's not dished, which is weird, it's just flat. Uh, and it looks like it'll kill you because it has a spike in the middle of it, but as a, as something that was put out in the 2000s, just what a thing.

• 1:13:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's a, that's a fucking steamship tiller, that thing.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:13:27Matt Farah?

  I love that. Um, the...

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  All the, all the GT wheels are great because the only knob on them is like, this controls the driving mode. If any, or GT3RS has like all the suspension, but it's, there's no buttons you can bump with your fingers, there's no volume you can accidentally control, like, the, my least favorite wheel is the Mercedes wheels.

• 1:13:49Matt Farah?

  With just everything on it.

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  With haptic and stuff, it's terrible.

• 1:13:52Matt Farah?

  No, I think like, the, the Porsche wheel, the McLaren wheels are really good.

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  Good one.

• 1:13:57Matt Farah?

  Those both, those wheels are, they're very similar. They're essentially perfectly round. No flat bottoms, circles with nothing on them. Really, really good contours, not, not too thick, not too thin.

• 1:14:09Speaker 01

  Well, the McLaren contour actually, you bring it, has that perfect, like, it's got like a ridge in it where you can press on the inside with your thumbs. It's, it's not circular around the wheel either. It's almost like, uh...

• 1:14:21Matt Farah?

  Like an oval.

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  Uh, kind of, like half a watermelon, you know, one side's flat, one side's round.

• 1:14:26Matt Farah?

  The Nissan Skylines, the R32, uh, original R32 three-spoke wheel is superb.

• 1:14:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah. There's a, yeah.

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:14:41Matt Farah?

  That's just, I mean, that's just fucking textbook, isn't it?

• 1:14:44Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:14:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, no notes there. That's, that's as good as a steering wheel gets.

• 1:14:51Matt Farah?

  Good question. Segway GT3 DUI Edition, just built my dream garage, including a lift. Yeah, and I'm looking to round out my garage with an older third car to work on and play with. All over the place right now, including the MR2 Turbo 996, Subaru GC8 E30, Porsche 914, Datsun 240Z, AutoZam AZ1. I currently have a Lucid Air and an ND3 Miata on good suspension. What would be the most fun and provide a new experience for under 30K? Wow, you are all fucking over the place. I would not recommend a mid-engine car

• 1:15:33Matt Farah?

  or a car where the powertrain's like hidden to be your tuner car and play with car. I would really recommend, not, it doesn't have to be necessarily front engine, but like, fucking a 996 is a bitch to modify and service. Like, you have to take the engine out for a bunch of shit.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  Oh, right. Good point.

• 1:15:52Matt Farah?

  You know what I mean? Like, the, like, an E30 is kinda like a Miata, but super easy to work on.

• 1:15:59Speaker 01

  I think the AutoZam, well, that's, that'd be hard to work on, probably.

• 1:16:02Matt Farah?

  Dude, I think if you did an RSTI, that would be good. A two-door Subaru 2.5.

• 1:16:07Speaker 01

  That'll be the easiest thing to work on.

• 1:16:09Matt Farah?

  With an STI powertrain swap, like, you could work on it, it'll feel different from your other two cars.

• 1:16:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:15Matt Farah?

  30K goes like a pretty long way in getting a decent one. Parts availability, you know, you're using a lot of factory parts for those kind of cars. You can swap a bunch of shit over.

• 1:16:26Speaker 01

  Makes it easier.

• 1:16:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:29Matt Farah?

  I, I would do that.

• 1:16:30Speaker 01

  That's a good idea. Yeah. If you want something to learn to work on.

• 1:16:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:33Speaker 01

  That's the way to go.

• 1:16:34Matt Farah?

  I don't, I wouldn't want something where I had to be, I'm sorry, my hands are wet, where I had to like... With a mid-engine car, you gotta like find shit all in there. It's hard to get to. 996, that's underneath and that stuff's really tough to get to. I would, yeah.

• 1:16:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. 240Z might require more custom work. I don't know, I'm not as familiar with that aftermarket, but, but like you said, the Subarus or Legos.

• 1:17:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  So you can, you can literally bolt in, you know, high-performance turbocharged engines that will just fit there, so.

• 1:17:07Matt Farah?

  The JDM engines, there's like three different gearboxes you can get. There's all kinds of fun stuff you can do with those.

• 1:17:14Speaker 01

  And if you're spending 30, you can spend way less and get one that's already probably pretty far along.

• 1:17:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:19Speaker 01

  And then just tinker.

• 1:17:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Steve McQueen Latifah.

• 1:17:23Speaker 01

  That's great.

• 1:17:23Matt Farah?

  That is absolutely superb contraction. Famous roads which disappeared when you finally had a-

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  Disappointed.

• 1:17:30Matt Farah?

  Oh disappointed, sorry. When you finally had a chance to drive them.

• 1:17:33Speaker 01

  The Dragon.

• 1:17:34Matt Farah?

  I was on the million-dollar highway in Colorado and was underwhelmed, pretty and curvy, but too much traffic and didn't feel as special as I was led to believe. Uh, we then came back through Telluride and that was an awesome drive. Yes, the roads, the road out of Telluride is the jam.

• 1:17:48Speaker 01

  I think it also depends on what you're looking for, cause a good friend of mine just drove million-dollar highway and she could not stop talking about it.

• 1:17:55Matt Farah?

  Really?

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, cause she just wanted a sightseer. She's driving a Forester. But if you're looking to, you know, cook and drive quick and if there's a lot of traffic, then sure.

• 1:18:03Matt Farah?

  I think a lot of America's best roads are considered that way from the perspective of the sightseer and not necessarily the canyon carver. But there's also like time of day, like if you wanna hit that tourist road in a sports car, like you're getting up at 5. Like fucking be out there. Like, I've, I've run Tail of the Dragon a dozen times. And if you go at fucking noon, sure, disappointing. If you go at 6 a.m., if you get a clean run, that road fucking kicks ass.

• 1:18:35Speaker 01

  I've driven it a couple of times and I just find it to be a bit repetitive on like the second gear, like, and then tight turn, tight turn, tight turn, tight turn.

• 1:18:42Matt Farah?

  It's not my favorite road in the area. I'm a Skyway man myself. Charle, Charle Hall of Skyway, I was, in my opinion, the best road in the country. And it's the, it's right there. So just go, you can go do that too. But the Dragon at 6 a.m., when the fog is lifting, you know, is pretty, pretty epic.

• 1:18:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like tree skiing in good powder, you know, it's just tight and back and forth.

• 1:19:01Matt Farah?

  It's a workout, you know, you gotta be in the right car, but like, but I also think that you gotta do, do the road at the right time. When we went to, um,

• 1:19:11Matt Farah?

  Glacier National Park?

• 1:19:12Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:19:12Matt Farah?

  What's the, there's a, there's a famous road in Glacier National Park that's like the climb to the clouds or some, something like that.

• 1:19:21Matt Farah?

  And it was slow, you know, there was other people on it. Uh, whatever, going to the sun road, that's it, the going to the sun road. A dude, I mean, it was staggeringly beautiful. And you know, part of me, I was driving an Urus. Part of me was like, oh man, this would be nice if I could fly. And Hannah was like, look at, there's a waterfall going over the road. Like, it was, it was the most beautiful road, yeah, the most beautiful road imaginable.

• 1:19:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, don't rush this, wow.

• 1:19:53Matt Farah?

  This is the kind of road where you want to bring a 1925 fucking locomobile and just chug up that bitch. Like our friend John Bothwell did.

• 1:20:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:03Matt Farah?

  So like, that would be disappointing from a dynamics perspective, but it was so beautiful, I didn't, who cares?

• 1:20:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's all about, uh, what you're after.

• 1:20:11Matt Farah?

  People, I mean, if you, a lot of people, you know, driving PCH through Big Sur. Yeah, you go 10 a.m. and you're stuck behind three RVs, that sucks, but you go fucking, you wake up early and you rip that thing at sunrise? That's the jam.

• 1:20:24Speaker 01

  And I al- I also, when we drove down, uh, in Monterey Car Week, I forgot a little bit of how nice it looks, how stunning it is, but we're going slow, I could look at the thing. Cause if you're hauling ass, you're not really gonna be able to take in the sights.

• 1:20:37Matt Farah?

  Uh, FWD NSX says, as a young person with limited budgets, what are some good ways to get track time? I'm 30 minutes from Sonoma Raceway, but only ever done Wednesday night drags. Become an instructor. I mean, that's the easiest way to get cheap or free track time is to become an instructor. That's like, cause that's how they pay him a lot. Like, instructors will be like, ah, you know, you get a hundred dollars a day and you get, you know, two sessions, but you gotta instruct on the other sessions. Like, that's how people do it.

• 1:21:10Speaker 01

  Now, how does someone become an instructor?

• 1:21:12Matt Farah?

  Well, you have to then either go to a school and, you know, work your way up. Like, you don't necessarily need to be a credentialed instructor. You just have to get to a level of competence within a track day company. Like, there isn't a way to start from zero and end up somewhere. But there are more cost-effective ways to get track time that will ultimately be cheaper than just buying it. Like, so- You have to have the skill level to be an instructor, which doesn't necessarily mean that you need to be the best driver in the world, but you have to be above average, communicative, and most importantly, fucking willing to ride right seat with people.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  Yep, that. And you're 25, so you'll be brave enough to do that.

• 1:21:54Matt Farah?

  25, so you'll probably be okay.

• 1:21:55Speaker 01

  You could also, you could get a lot of experience in understanding vehicles, dynamics, and driving, doing autocross. I know it's not as exciting, but you will learn a lot of things that will help you talk to instructors, and then when you talk to them about how to become an instructor, if you say, "I've got this many months or years of autocross under my belt at this place, you know, every month," they will see that you're putting in the effort to get somewhere, and they'll probably help you.

• 1:22:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah. There isn't a good way to do it for cheap. Racing is unfortunately expensive.

• 1:22:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, sim racing is the cheapest way to do it.

• 1:22:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but I mean, maybe you could be a corner worker also. Being a corner worker may help you get track time. I mean...

• 1:22:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, maybe.

• 1:22:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I know that corner workers often have track rat cars, so I see them out on track sometimes, so. Carter Bliss says, "How do I convince my girlfriend that small sports cars are not girly or unmanly?" We just talked about this. Your girlfriend sucks, Carter.

• 1:23:00Matt Farah?

  I mean, I don't know, man. I don't know. I think, I think that's a... A car doesn't make you girly or unmanly. I have a pink fucking Boxer, you know.

• 1:23:11Speaker 01

  But I think convincing someone of that is hard, because that means, you know, they were socialized, taught around people that said that about Miata's or whatever, and that's just like part of their brain. So I think convincing them, can she... Let's see, if you have a Miata, can she drive it? Is she allowed to? Could she drive a stick? If you, if you show her the fun of it, I think that's the best way to correct someone on that thing.

• 1:23:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Why don't you rent one on Turo? You know, and have a little week, go away for a night or a weekend, you know, a little romantic road trip weekend in one, and maybe they'll find it's fun.

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  Well, there's also like, she thinks two cars is a waste of money. He's got a 4Runner and a JCW Mini, and he can't afford both of them. Well, that's a different discussion.

• 1:23:54Matt Farah?

  No, no, he said, I used to drive a, a, a JCW Mini, and now I have a 4Runner.

• 1:24:01Speaker 01

  Oh, but he wants a fun car.

• 1:24:01Matt Farah?

  But I want a second car, and, uh, this she, this, his, his other, significant other thinks that two cars is a waste of money for one person. Well, this person doesn't like cars. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm sorry, but like, if they, you can only have one car, and it has to be manly. Like, that's not someone who likes cars. That's, that's like, it just isn't. So, you have to convince her to like cars.

• 1:24:31Speaker 01

  Well, or, I think, demonstrate to her or have a conversation that cars are really important to you. And you, like, you know, my wife is not that into cars. She's a little into them, but she sees that I enjoy my car, even with all the problems it has, and she's like, that's your thing, and I support the shit out of that. That's what, that's, that should be the discussion.

• 1:24:51Matt Farah?

  What does she have two of, that she doesn't really need two of?

• 1:24:55Speaker 01

  You can't use shoes, though, because it's like, they're cheaper and smaller.

• 1:24:58Matt Farah?

  But like, does she have 12 handbags? I mean, I'm not, and, and I don't have a problem with that at all, but like, I, for someone saying, she's a very logical person and thinks two cars is a waste of money. There is absolutely something this woman does that you would consider to be a waste of money.

• 1:25:15Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:25:15Matt Farah?

  That you do not have a problem with.

• 1:25:16Speaker 01

  Right. Because, because she gets joy from it, and so, does she have two boyfriends, and you're like, that's fine.

• 1:25:22Matt Farah?

  Waymo handjobs from women I hardly know. Is there any reasonable scenario for building a HPDE slash Canyon car out of a late 4th gen Trans Am? I mean, yes.

• 1:25:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:36Matt Farah?

  Yes, there is. Those cars are. Show them a chassis perspective, like, and a powertrain perspective, like, very competent.

• 1:25:43Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:25:43Matt Farah?

  They're just rattly shit parts.

• 1:25:45Speaker 01

  It's an F body Camaro, and they, we've driven some that handled great.

• 1:25:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:48Speaker 01

  Um, they can be made into pretty potent racing machines.

• 1:25:51Matt Farah?

  You do not have to do much.

• 1:25:52Speaker 01

  They look good, too. Spare stance. I support the shit out of this.

• 1:25:54Matt Farah?

  Suspension, brakes.

• 1:25:55Speaker 01

  Get a WS6.

• 1:25:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:56Speaker 01

  With the big nostrils, yeah.

• 1:25:58Matt Farah?

  Uh, doesn't, they're just rattly, but just like, take the interior out and throw it away, you know, and put in real seats, because the seats are terrible, and accept that it's gonna be a rattly shitbox. Um, but they, like, they actually drive a lot better than they look, and they can be set up nicely. Whip cream save lives? Uh, I just saw Larry Chen posted a video about an electric AE86 with a manual transmission and off-the-shelf parts from Toyota or Lexus. Functional manual gearbox and motor programming similar to the original ICE engine. Uh, do you think this might be a potential future for an enthusiast vehicle? I don't want that.

• 1:26:38Matt Farah?

  Like, that's, that doesn't, like, I'm, I'm happy that someone built something cool, but like, I don't.

• 1:26:45Speaker 01

  I've seen a lot of people driving and posting about this lately.

• 1:26:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I don't want this. I mean, here you have a car with one of the finest gas powertrains ever. It was incredibly light, it was also incredibly fuel-efficient. And it was very fizzy, a fizzy, engaging powertrain. And those are not the kind of cars that I want to EV swap. I think we should keep those cars because they're so engaging and dynamic. And EV swaps cars that, uh, where the powertrain is a, is a point against, not a point for. Like fucking Wagoneers and whatever, now. I don't mind someone doing this, like, once, but I also don't, I don't need to drive stick in an EV either. I don't need to fake that.

• 1:27:31Matt Farah?

  I want to drive real stick, and if we're gonna fake it, I'm, I'm okay with, with paddles. I don't, I don't need a fake clutch pedal.

• 1:27:41Speaker 01

  I, I think this is a cool proof of concept, but unless we are all forced to drive EVs entirely, I agree with you that, like, this doesn't really appeal to me or have a market. I think it's cool and it's rad that someone built it out of, like, you know, found parts and, and brain power.

• 1:27:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:58Speaker 01

  Um, it's just kind of like a why.

• 1:28:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:01Speaker 01

  But just for science, they did it for fun, cool, yeah.

• 1:28:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah, to me, it's a solution to the wrong problem. Um, but you know, fun for science.

• 1:28:12Speaker 01

  It's cool.

• 1:28:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah. But someone messaged me this this morning and said, this is exactly the thing you said you'd want. I was like, no, no, no, you are enormously misunderstanding what I've said I want. Uh, I, what I've said is that you can make a fun and dynamic EV sports car. And the way I think you could do it is by using whimsy to mimic gas cars of, of the past.

• 1:28:36Speaker 01

  Well, that kinda does that if you get the right sound in there. But I think there's no, there's no reason to push for this at the moment, other than that it's an experiment. And it shows that the technology could exist one day.

• 1:28:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:47Speaker 01

  Okay, cool.

• 1:28:48Matt Farah?

  But I wanted, I, I might, I might want that in a new car. I do not want to be EV swapping great classic sports cars. Particularly not ones with awesome engines that are also very fuel efficient.

• 1:28:59Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:29:00Matt Farah?

  I bet you that car is more fuel efficient than fucking most of like GM's entire fleet right now. If you exclude EVs. Quadrofoley O face. Best Bond car? I mean, I'm very partial to the vanquish, obviously.

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like the DBS a lot, um.

• 1:29:25Speaker 01

  You know what, what was the DB5 with the ejector seat? I mean, how do you beat that? Is it DB4 or DB5?

• 1:29:30Matt Farah?

  Uh, DB5.

• 1:29:32Speaker 01

  Old, yeah, I mean, how do you beat, that thing had machine guns, smoke and an ejector seat. I mean, as a kid, you're not gonna beat that.

• 1:29:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh, this has to be trolly. This can't be a real question, right?

• 1:29:45Matt Farah?

  There's nobody who actually listens to this show would write this like this, right?

• 1:29:49Speaker 01

  I think this is a real question.

• 1:29:50Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:29:51Speaker 01

  Var the Var, he has, he has questions a lot.

• 1:29:53Matt Farah?

  Okay, just the last sentence is, is, I, I'm not reading that. Cause it's not, it's so untrue that I'm not reading it. Uh, Var the Var says, I know you don't like FSD. But have you tried the most recent iteration? If so, what do you think about it? My friend has a Model 3 and we've done around 20 trips and it's been perfect. From my driveway to parking spot with no intervention. So that is not anywhere near enough data to judge a system. Neither is one trip. Taking a ride in something isn't data. Um, millions of miles of testing is data.

• 1:30:34Matt Farah?

  And if you saw, uh, recently the story came out, uh, Waymo versus Tesla's, uh, data, which is hilarious. Waymo's had like three accidents in like these millions and millions and millions of miles of testing. And if you look at what those three accidents are, all of them were either something else crashing into the Waymo. Or, uh, someone opening the door of a Waymo and then on the, on the, the traffic side of it. Uh, and then, uh, and the car hitting that door. So it's like, there have, like, there have been functionally no Waymo accidents.

• 1:31:16Matt Farah?

  Like that have been caused by Waymos, like functionally. Um, the deployment of the FSD quote, robotaxi in Texas, uh, has had multiple accidents already. Uh, and we all know how many accidents and deaths have been connected to FSD.

• 1:31:36Speaker 01

  Right. Except they disconnect FSD right before impact, which is very suspicious.

• 1:31:41Matt Farah?

  Um, Tesla is still using camera only, which, ah, dude, we should take a Waymo today in the rain. We should see how, we should see if it, uh, I've never tried one in the rain. Um, but, uh,

• 1:31:54Matt Farah?

  look, I, I, I'm glad you've had a good experience in this car. I am. But like, your experience isn't data. It just isn't. The, the, the data that is collected over millions of miles of driving, um, is data. And, and in your last sentence, you refer to that Tesla Model 3 as an autonomous driving system. It is not. That is absolutely not an autonomous driving system. Waymo is a mostly level, is a level four autonomous driving system. There are no people in the car. There are human backup drivers in a data center somewhere. So if the car has a fuck up and I press the help button, or they detect a fuck up, a

• 1:32:39Matt Farah?

  human can remotely drive that car to safety if need be. I have no evidence that that's ever happened while I was in a car. But, but like, there's no one in the fucking car. Like, there's, if a human still has to be there, that is not an autonomous car. It's just not. And if that Tesla Model 3 gets into a crash while you're using FSD, you bet your fucking ass Elon Musk ain't paying for it.

• 1:33:02Speaker 01

  Very true.

• 1:33:03Matt Farah?

  You know what I mean?

• 1:33:04Speaker 01

  It would be such a bummer, and this is just more of a joke, that like, in five years, we find out that all the Waymo cars were just being driven remotely.

• 1:33:11Matt Farah?

  By people in Afghanistan.

• 1:33:12Speaker 01

  Well, because those delivery robots that are just like the size of a cooler that deliver food, that's what they are. They've got a camera and lights.

• 1:33:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's RC.

• 1:33:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it's just, it's a remote control. But people, for a little while, thought that they were autonomous around town.

• 1:33:24Matt Farah?

  It would be crazy to find out that Google has a fucking building in like Pakistan with 50,000 people in it that are just remotely driving Waymos. That would be insane.

• 1:33:32Speaker 01

  It would be disappointing.

• 1:33:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:34Speaker 01

  Especially with all the...

• 1:33:35Matt Farah?

  So this is, oh, here's a, here's an article from a month ago. Tesla is attempting to conceal the details of three separate accidents involving its robot taxi service in Austin, despite having only two months of service in the fleet.

• 1:33:46Speaker 01

  Yep. Also, Tesla recently said that it's gonna pivot from its helper robot, um...

• 1:33:54Matt Farah?

  Wait a minute.

• 1:33:55Speaker 01

  ...plan, and the guy that was the head of their robotics left to go work at Meta, and he took a pay cut to do it.

• 1:34:00Matt Farah?

  No, but you're, no, no, no, because that can't be, because they were the leader in humanoid robots.

• 1:34:06Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:34:07Matt Farah?

  The stock went up.

• 1:34:08Speaker 01

  And they said it would be 80% of their revenue at some point.

• 1:34:09Matt Farah?

  But the stock went up, Zach. When the stock goes up, it means they're right about everything. Don't you know how America works?

• 1:34:21Matt Farah?

  We are, we are the stupidest fucking country. I can't believe how dumb we are. It's every day is a new level of fucking stupid.

• 1:34:34Speaker 01

  Anyway.

• 1:34:34Matt Farah?

  Um, so anyway, yeah, Teslas aren't autonomous and your rides aren't data. So, please don't die. And if you do, I told you so.

• 1:34:46Matt Farah?

  That's our show, folks. Oh, do you have a, do you have a story?

• 1:34:49Speaker 01

  Well, I heard, I heard it on Prof G Podcast. I'm trying to find their source link, but I can't right now.

• 1:34:55Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:34:56Speaker 01

  Anyway.

• 1:34:56Matt Farah?

  All right, sorry. We'll abort that part of the story. No, we won't.

• 1:35:02Matt Farah?

  Unproven, unproven allegations, right? But we do know, I mean, listen, we do know, we have, we have, we're on a real good information, a real good lead. I saw it on the internet. Tesla is bringing in kilos of coke, no SpaceX. SpaceX is bringing kilos of cocaine. They're using private planes to do it. One crash in the jungle. I saw it on Twitter, so it's definitely true. Right?

• 1:35:29Speaker 01

  Definitely true. Well, this, look, a month ago, Tesla lost its Optimus humanoid robot executive.

• 1:35:35Matt Farah?

  Hmm.

• 1:35:35Speaker 01

  For, right before Elon said that Optimus would be 80% of the, of their revenue.

• 1:35:40Matt Farah?

  Oh, two weeks after.

• 1:35:41Speaker 01

  Two weeks after, why can't I?

• 1:35:42Matt Farah?

  Two weeks after Elon Musk claimed the product will be out.

• 1:35:47Matt Farah?

  And how, uh, in, how many times in those two weeks do you think that guy said, "I can't fucking take this shit anymore"?

• 1:35:55Speaker 01

  And then he's like, he said, he said, what? He said, that much?

• 1:35:57Matt Farah?

  He went on TV.

• 1:35:58Speaker 01

  Imagine the pressure.

• 1:35:59Matt Farah?

  He said, "It's ready"?

• 1:36:00Speaker 01

  And they're just feeding him bales of cocaine. They're like, "You'll figure it out. You'll figure it out. If you, if you never sleep and you get incredibly confident."

• 1:36:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you have to get hardcore. Just say you already know how to do it and don't sleep. And do a little ketamine once in a while.

• 1:36:16Speaker 01

  Yikes.

• 1:36:16Matt Farah?

  Maybe a lot of ketamine. Uh, thanks, everybody. Love you, patrons. You're the best. Keep kicking ass. Uh, your usernames are getting fucking much, your usernames are getting sentient, unlike Elon Musk's robots. We'll see you later. Goodbye.

• 1:36:30Speaker 01

  Someone said, "What about ammo swallow"?