Pod Insights Scam Goddess The Dark Knight of Brentwood w/ Jenny Slate, Gabe Liedman, & Max Silvestri About this episode Laci welcomes comedians, writers, and actor besties Jenny Slate, Max Silvestri, and Gabe Liedman (I Need You Guys' podcast) to catch up on her adventures in Ireland, learning about Berlin’s KitKatClub, and getting help at the airport at any cost. They also discuss Steve Farzam, the “fake firefighter” who was arrested without bail for impersonating a first responder in connection with the Palisades fire, and his problematic hero-complex addiction that keeps landing him behind bars. Stay schemin’!
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Research by Kathryn Doyle
SOURCES
https://magazine.atavist.com/2017/not-fuzz-police-impersonator-santa-monica-steve-farzam
https://magazine.atavist.com/2020/the-con-continues-not-fuzz-update-steve-farzam
https://smdp.com/news/crime/longtime-police-impersonator-steve-farzam-arrested-for-pretending-to-be-firefighter-during-palisades-fire/
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1:47 Laci Mosley? What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast Scam Goddess. It's all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. Okay, we're gonna see along the way. And y'all already know I'm very what? Yes, excited, thrilled, elated.
2:09 Laci Mosley? Above the moon. And also, I'm in Ireland. But the first thing I want to say is that Irish people are the nicest white people that I've ever met in my life, and they have lulled me into a false sense of security. I forgot I was black. They were so nice to me that I forgot I was a black queer woman in the world. But y'all know I'm excited, right? I'm thrilled, I'm elated. My guests today are three multi-talented comedians who host the podcast, I Need You Guys, the show about their friendship over two decades. This is their group chat made public where they catch up, spill their guts, and they welcome new and old friends to every single episode. You may have seen the incredibly talented gal in the group on Parks and Rec as Mona Lisa Saperstein?
2:54 Laci Mosley? Yeah, yeah.
2:56 Laci Mosley? Okay, okay Jenny, I got that one right. Jenny, you right too. Like Jenny, please know, I know your lore. Like, I talk your tea. I know your tea, sweetie.
3:08 Laci Mosley? Or you might have heard her in shows like Big Mouth, that's what I'm talking about, clock.
3:14 Laci Mosley? The Great North, and so, so, so, so much more. Jenny Staley is hilarious and beautiful and honestly, like, God really spilled. And I think he was like, oops, I guess we'll just let this one go. But he gave her too much talent and beauty. And it was like, nobody should really have this much. Like, but she does.
3:35 Laci Mosley? And what do I do? What do I do?
3:39 Laci Mosley? Shout out to God. And our next guest is known for Killing It, not just in entertainment, but like, the TV series Killing It. As a producer and his quarter hour stand-up special is out now on Netflix. So you can see Quarter Hour on Netflix, period. Da-dung.
4:02 Laci Mosley? Our third guest is known for shows like Pin 15, which I fucking love.
4:07 Speaker 05 Yes.
4:08 Laci Mosley? I didn't realize that meant Peanose. Um, Q, Q4, Never Have I Ever, Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
4:16 Speaker 05 Yes.
4:17 Laci Mosley? Love these shows and so much more. Congregation, wherever you are right now, make some noise. Get up out of your seat. If you in your car, pull over. I don't know, stand up. Why you got your foot on the gas? Okay, for the three funniest people. Jenny Slate, Back to Best Street, and Gabe Liedman.
4:38 Speaker 05 Yeah.
4:39 Speaker 06 What an intro. Wow.
4:40 Speaker 05 Thank you.
4:41 Laci Mosley? That was a really good intro. Jesus, for real.
4:44 Speaker 06 Let's take 10.
4:45 Laci Mosley? No, we still in business.
4:46 Speaker 05 Go for a walk. Let's go for a walk and get.
4:49 Laci Mosley? Honestly, as, yeah, like, stand-up comedians that have been introduced many times, I don't think any of us have ever gotten a shout-out to God themselves.
4:59 Laci Mosley? Like, that, now, every other intro I get is just gonna sound like a total queef compared to what that was. Like, that made me feel so good, and I really needed it today. I needed it. Uh, that was great. Thank you.
5:15 Laci Mosley? I love y'all for real. I love your work so much. Like, I'm not even joking. Like, I really love your work so much. I'm such a comedy nerd, and so I was so thrilled to have you guys here. I am in Ireland, working my black ass off, and I was like, oh no. I got, I got my, I got my call time, and they were like, yeah, 5 a.m., we pick your ass up. Cause I don't drive here. I'm a terrible driver, and you do not wanna see me on the road.
5:42 Speaker 06 Are the roads backwards there? Is Ireland?
5:44 Laci Mosley? Upside down.
5:45 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
5:45 Speaker 06 That's tough.
5:47 Speaker 05 That's crazy. I've never even tried it.
5:48 Laci Mosley? We have our drivers. Mm-mm. They don't let me try it. They're like, ma'am, we know you gonna kill everybody, so.
5:54 Speaker 06 It's easier after a few drinks. I've given it a shot. You can, you can do it.
5:58 Laci Mosley? So then I was like, okay, bet, cool. They send me a text, and this is what they do. Like, they send you a text, and they're like, hey, we're picking you up at 5 a.m. And I was like, okay. And I knew I was gonna be with y'all, so I was like, I gotta meet my heroes.
6:13 Speaker 06 Have you already taken the melatonin? Are you like already sliding into sleep?
6:16 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Are you gonna go down?
6:18 Laci Mosley? Just just drift off.
6:21 Laci Mosley? No, I'm not gonna go.
6:24 Speaker 05 I would try to time it perfectly.
6:27 Laci Mosley? First of all, when I take melatonin, there is something in my body that maybe like there's just something deep in me like self sabotage. It's like she just won't sleep. We're just not gonna let her. But the melatonin, if I take it at the right time, I swear to God, it kicks in at like 11 a.m. the next day. It never, it doesn't work.
6:45 Speaker 05 No.
6:46 Laci Mosley? Yeah. And the other thing.
6:46 Laci Mosley? They are drowsy. That's the worst place to be is like you're awake, but you a little bit asleep.
6:53 Laci Mosley? It's the worst.
6:53 Speaker 05 It's dangerous.
6:54 Laci Mosley? I hate it. Yeah. Yeah. And also, as these guys know, I'm such a bad driver that I don't ever drive when I'm at work because I'm bad. And I think that maybe I'll crash and then the whole thing will get ruined. So I, I respect, I respect your decision and their decision to pick you up.
7:13 Laci Mosley? Twin. Where have you been? I am the exact same.
7:20 Laci Mosley? I shouldn't drive. Yeah.
7:22 Laci Mosley? No. And also I'm a magnet for chaos. I used to do it for the plot. I thought I was doing it for the plot. I really thought that's what was going on. My mother, she's a witch.
7:34 Laci Mosley? She's very smart and has spoken so much life into me, but sometimes things that I was like, are you cursing me? Is this a spell? She told me that when I went to college, I went to college on scholarship. I'm saying that again for you. You, you don't, you know who you are on Twitter.
7:52 Laci Mosley? My mom was like, you're gonna have a lot of friends who can party and bullshit and do all this stuff and then still make straight A's. You are not that person. You have to study. You have to go home. And then she also told me, everything that is bad will happen to you.
8:14 Speaker 05 What a beautiful inspirational quote.
8:17 Laci Mosley? Jesus, yeah.
8:19 Speaker 05 That's a big one, actually.
8:20 Speaker 06 It's such a long list.
8:21 Laci Mosley? They should put that on one of those driftwood signs that they sell.
8:25 Speaker 05 Yeah.
8:25 Laci Mosley? At Home Goods.
8:26 Speaker 05 The new live laugh love.
8:28 Laci Mosley? Yeah, yeah.
8:29 Laci Mosley? The new live laugh love is everything.
8:31 Speaker 05 Everything that can happen will happen to you.
8:34 Laci Mosley? Will happen to you.
8:35 Laci Mosley? So she was like, if you feel unsafe, like, get out of that situation because the bad thing will happen to you. And I was like, okay. So, so I told you, the Irish people, super nice, super wonderful, love me into a false sense of security. I decided to take my dumb ass to Berlin. Cause I heard about Kit Kat Clubs on TikTok.
8:57 Speaker 05 Wait, what's a Kit Kat Club?
8:58 Laci Mosley? Yeah, what's a Kit Kat Club?
9:00 Laci Mosley? Oh, I'm about to tell you.
9:01 Speaker 05 Okay, okay, okay.
9:03 Laci Mosley? I learned about this on TikTok and there were a lot of videos that were like, oh, I don't know if I'm gonna be accepted into this Kit Kat Club. They wore different outfits. They tell, they tell you to wear all black and to not wear any labels, no designer, don't be super American, know a little bit of German, um, and kind of just like, it's a vibe check to get into the club. And for some reason, I took that as a challenge. I was like, oh, a vibe check? I think I could pass vibe check. So I had a few days off of work, so I went and I'm in Germany. I got to this club. I was influenced from TikTok, got to this club
9:43 Laci Mosley? and they let me in, vibe check passed. But then immediately when I get in, there was this naked lady and she, and she was very naked. And, um, she was like, hey, can I have your phone and your coat? And I was like, okay, yes, here's my phone and my coat.
10:01 Speaker 05 Where are you gonna put it?
10:01 Laci Mosley? And then she was like,
10:05 Laci Mosley? and then she was like, also, can I have your shirt? And I was like,
10:10 Laci Mosley? Wow.
10:11 Laci Mosley? And I was like, what? Okay, um, here's my shirt, but I'm not giving you my, my bra or, cause I don't, I don't, I don't want to be titty naked up in here. What's going on?
10:23 Laci Mosley? It was, they was doing sex to each other in there. It was.
10:28 Laci Mosley? Did you not expect that? Is that what it is? It's so, okay.
10:32 Speaker 05 Was it straight people having sex?
10:34 Laci Mosley? Yeah. What was it?
10:36 Laci Mosley? It was all.
10:36 Speaker 05 It was all people.
10:38 Laci Mosley? All people. And I'm.
10:39 Speaker 05 How were they paired off?
10:40 Laci Mosley? So like, I, I saw a, a really beautiful young man in the corner. He was smoking a cigarette and I went up to him because I was like, gay bestie. Oh, my God, I gotta get to safety. Gay bestie, gay bestie. So then I sit next to him. He gives me a cigarette. I don't even smoke, but I was like, I gotta blend in.
10:57 Laci Mosley? Yeah, cool.
10:58 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah. I'm trying to be.
11:03 Laci Mosley? You get it, Max.
11:07 Laci Mosley? He was like, sweetie, I, I think I need to get you out of here. And I thought he was gay bestie. Next thing I know, that man was kissing on me. And I was like, wait, I thought you was gay. And he was like, a lot of people think that, but I'm not. And I was like, okay, cool. And it wasn't weird. I was like, okay. And then I was like, well, I want to dance a little bit. So he took me to the dance floor. He did not let me go. He was, he took me to the dance floor. It was like, you can dance for a little bit, but then you have to leave because you can't be up in here. And I was like, okay. He was from Romania. He was cool as fuck. I was like, cool.
11:38 Speaker 05 And he was just picking up on your general innocence?
11:42 Laci Mosley? I guess.
11:42 Speaker 05 Yeah.
11:43 Laci Mosley? What was he wearing?
11:45 Speaker 05 Yeah, good question. Shirt?
11:47 Laci Mosley? Did he have a shirt or bra?
11:49 Laci Mosley? No, they took his shirt from him. When we left, he had to get his shirt back too.
11:54 Speaker 05 Whoa.
11:57 Laci Mosley? They were taking everybody's shirts.
11:59 Speaker 05 That's crazy.
12:00 Laci Mosley? Like it's too many shirts going around that are black. You're gonna lose it. Anyways, Chad, so all of that happened. When I was leaving Germany, I missed three flights.
12:10 Speaker 05 No.
12:11 Laci Mosley? There's so many.
12:13 Laci Mosley? The first one, Aer Lingus was like, they sent me a, like a message on Thursday. I was leaving on Saturday and the message was like, oh, hey, we have a cybersecurity breach. Like you need to check in for your flight. My dumb ass type B traveling ass was like, whoa, I don't need to check in on Thursday for a Saturday flight. I'll just wait. A little bit dumb. So I checked in on the way there.
12:36 Speaker 05 That's totally normal. Yeah.
12:38 Laci Mosley? What's up? Everybody does.
12:39 Laci Mosley? Yeah, but I guess not in this situation.
12:41 Speaker 05 Not Europeans, I guess. Crazy.
12:43 Laci Mosley? I love Irish people, but Aer Lingus, y'all played in my face. They were like, oh, okay, well, um, you can't check in online. Then I got there and they didn't have anybody at any counters.
12:52 Speaker 05 Right.
12:53 Laci Mosley? They didn't have a counter. They didn't. So I could not get into the airport. So I had to buy another flight.
12:59 Speaker 06 But they haven't even bothered to change their name from Aer Lingus, which I can't believe we're all just pretending that that's fine. Oh, of course.
13:06 Laci Mosley? I'm hearing Aer Lingus and it's making me feel really like welcoming. Like I'm just like, I'll, I would love to fly with you. I would love to sit right up front and just get Aer Lingus.
13:19 Speaker 06 Put your lips together and fly. Yeah.
13:21 Laci Mosley? Yeah, full flight. I'll take the meal on Aer Lingus.
13:26 Laci Mosley? I need you guys. And I'm feeling like I'm in your group chat right now. I need you guys real bad. And this is feeling like I'm in your group chat. So thank you.
13:36 Speaker 05 Oh, my God.
13:37 Laci Mosley? Missed that flight, bought another flight. Now I gotta get on Ryanair.
13:41 Laci Mosley? Oh, Ryanair is a different deal.
13:44 Laci Mosley? Cause I have to work. Oh, that's spirit. It's spirit.
13:46 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it's spirit. Right.
13:48 Laci Mosley? European spirit. And so I have.
13:50 Laci Mosley? You get like an interesting weird sandwich sometimes on it. Do you ever have that?
13:54 Laci Mosley? Well, I ain't make that flight either.
13:56 Speaker 06 Named after like a guy you dated in your twenties who definitely didn't have a job. Like Ryan? Who's Ryan?
14:02 Laci Mosley? Yeah, Ryan.
14:03 Speaker 06 Yelling at you that you were weird at the party or whatever. Like Ryan's not a cool guy.
14:07 Laci Mosley? Oh, my God, Max. That's exactly what Ryan be doing. That's what Ryan does.
14:14 Laci Mosley? It would either be Ryan. Yeah, Ryan. Oh, God, Ryanair. Anyway, so you get on Ryanair.
14:18 Laci Mosley? I used to always say every Matthew was a scam and I believe that.
14:22 Speaker 05 Matthew.
14:22 Laci Mosley? Also, I think we gotta add Ryan.
14:25 Speaker 05 Yeah, Ryan is dangerous.
14:28 Laci Mosley? And Ryan's more dangerous because he's cute. Ryan's are cute. They're very cute.
14:32 Laci Mosley? Yeah, there's so many cute Ryans.
14:34 Laci Mosley? And they be smiling at you and they got braces. Their parents got them braces. Ryan always had some braces.
14:40 Speaker 05 Yeah.
14:40 Laci Mosley? And then whoa, he's smiling and he's cute.
14:42 Speaker 05 But if he was honest, if he was honest and trustworthy, he'd be Brian.
14:47 Laci Mosley? Oh my God, Brian, you're right. Brian, Brian is too good for his own good.
14:52 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah. This is the Greg Craig divide too. One of them. Craig, don't.
14:58 Laci Mosley? Craig, you are crazy. Greg, you're my best friend. I don't feel that way about you.
15:03 Speaker 05 I have a very good therapist named Craig. I don't know why I'm saying this.
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17:47 Laci Mosley? Ending here. So miss that Ryanair flight too because I have four people in the airport. How do I get to my gate? And apparently in Germany, you have to go through customs before you leave. At this point, I was trying to get the fuck ASAP. So I tried to like, I pulled out a bunch of cash and I was like, here, sir, I'll give you a hundred euro to please just take me to my gate. And he was one of those drivers who takes you to your gate. Typically for mostly used for like disabled people or older people, you know. So I was like, can you just please take me to my gate? He started doing the same bullshit because I'm sorry, Max, I'm sorry, Gabe, but men are just unreliable. I'm with you.
18:32 Laci Mosley? Y'all really just don't be doing y'all jobs. So I was like, fuck, I'm kind of screwed. This is what I thought to do, which is crazy. Jenny, please let me know your thoughts.
18:45 Laci Mosley? I'm ready.
18:46 Laci Mosley? I need you guys. I need you guys.
18:50 Laci Mosley? Please let me know your thoughts.
18:54 Laci Mosley? I was like, well, I can't get help, right? I can't get anyone to help me do anything at this point. I was like, well, maybe I can just become a liability. So.
19:03 Speaker 05 Oh.
19:04 Laci Mosley? I I've never done this in my life and I will never do this again. Um, but I fake fainted.
19:11 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Wow. It's.
19:15 Speaker 06 Wake up in Ireland.
19:17 Laci Mosley? Look, it's not like if someone else had fainted at the same time, they would have also not been helped. Like you didn't take anything from anyone else and you weren't getting any help. And it was the end of a long trial.
19:30 Speaker 05 A big swing, but it's not.
19:31 Laci Mosley? Tribulation.
19:32 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's like a big swing, but you let you took the control, but in this really passive, well, you literally fell down.
19:38 Speaker 06 Yeah.
19:39 Speaker 05 And they had no choice but to come to your assistance. Did they help?
19:43 Laci Mosley? Two women showed up after I fake fainted. They.
19:47 Laci Mosley? And then, yeah.
19:47 Laci Mosley? Took me to customs. They waited for me on the other side of customs and they also walked me to my gate and made sure that I got on my plane.
19:55 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
19:55 Speaker 06 Two women are always better than one man.
19:58 Laci Mosley? That is completely true. That is exact math. And the other thing is like.
20:02 Speaker 06 That's my Google search history also proves that out.
20:06 Laci Mosley? Yeah. When you, when you need some relief, AKA, you know what I mean?
20:10 Speaker 06 Yeah, when I'm about to faint.
20:11 Speaker 05 When you're looking to faint, yeah.
20:12 Laci Mosley? When I really want to faint, I definitely look for something with two women and one man. But anyway, um, I, I, yeah, no, it's like, isn't that how you felt emotionally? Like you just kind of expressed it and let's say it was like almost performance art. Like you're just like, you're all making me feel like you want me to fall down on the floor because you're not helping me. So now I'm going to fall down on the floor and change my reality through this action of falling down on the floor. And then you did. I don't have a problem with it at all.
20:37 Speaker 06 Yeah.
20:39 Speaker 05 No.
20:40 Laci Mosley? You guys are my group chat.
20:43 Laci Mosley? It's just honestly not that big of a, yeah, it's like, I don't, it's, I don't think it's bad.
20:46 Laci Mosley? Thank you.
20:47 Laci Mosley? I don't know if you're looking for that validation, but that's my opinion on it.
20:49 Speaker 06 From us, but you know.
20:50 Laci Mosley? I was, I, I need the group chat.
20:54 Speaker 06 Often what a group chat is for is just to have you share a horrible thing that you did.
20:59 Laci Mosley? Right. And you're like, that sounds crazy. And everybody's like, no, no, no, it wasn't that crazy.
21:04 Speaker 05 It was your only choice. It was your only choice.
21:07 Laci Mosley? That is like actually a bit of what our podcast is, is like what you just, the, the story that you just brought. It, don't, don't you guys feel like that's what we're doing?
21:16 Speaker 06 Yeah, yeah. Where somehow the story ends with like, so yeah, I, I like in the middle of the night, like threw 15 pumpkins through my neighbor's window. So that they move or whatever and that the other two are like, yeah, no, of course.
21:28 Speaker 05 Get out of here.
21:29 Speaker 06 That's terrorism what they're doing.
21:30 Speaker 05 They had it coming.
21:31 Laci Mosley? You should have threw more pumpkin.
21:33 Speaker 06 Yeah. Did them a solid. Can we sell the house now?
21:37 Laci Mosley? So now I'm gonna ask you all, and either, any of you can start. What is your relationship with scams?
21:48 Speaker 06 I have been scammed.
21:49 Laci Mosley? Okay.
21:50 Speaker 06 And my, my, my wife and I have both been scammed.
21:53 Laci Mosley? Together as a couple?
21:54 Speaker 06 Separately, and I kind of forgot about mine. So my, we jokingly, my wife is very bad at computers. And some friends, we like, we call her the cyber minister, kind of as a joke, like that she's the one in charge of being, she's not, she's, she's not great at computers. But one day, there was like this month where like she, every night she'd read on her Kindle.
22:11 Laci Mosley? She's just a girl. She doesn't have to be good at computers.
22:13 Speaker 06 Yeah, she's right. She's regular bad at computers. But her Kindle, she would be reading it and it would just reboot like every two pages. And her thing would just be like, yeah, so it just takes longer to read because I have to, and I was just was like, you need to fix this. This is making me nuts. I was the one that was like, just Google, like go to Amazon support. They'll send you a new one. Something's broken. So she's like, all right, I'm actually going to do it today. I'm going to fix my Kindle because you told me it's bad. So I'm in the other room and I hear her go, oh my God, I was hacked. My Kindle was hacked. And I was like, what? Like that? I didn't, how could you hack a Kindle?
22:46 Laci Mosley? A Kindle?
22:46 Speaker 06 I go into like the bedroom and she's got.
22:49 Laci Mosley? That's like hacking a flip phone.
22:51 Speaker 06 Exactly.
22:51 Speaker 05 Yeah.
22:52 Speaker 06 Like hacking a fridge. Yeah. Throws our shoes at you or whatever. Um, so I go in and she's like, got the like black and white, like terminal typing window open on her computer. And I was like, what? Why are you hacking? What's going on? And she's like, no, I called, I'm on with Kindle support right now and they had me install a tool. That scans my computer and the Kindle and it's, and they've, they've proven that there's hacking. I'm like, they're in, you're installing a tool. So she had just Googled Kindle broken and.
23:28 Speaker 06 A fake website came up that had the like, the URL like amazonbrokenproblem.com, but without clicking it, it gave you a little preview and it was like, customer support number is 188, whatever. So she just called this random number off a search result.
23:45 Laci Mosley? What?
23:46 Speaker 06 And they were like, yeah, hey, we're, we're Amazon for sure. Um, we just need to install some software.
23:51 Laci Mosley? They were Amazon with a zero, not an O.
23:53 Speaker 06 Yeah, literally.
23:54 Laci Mosley? Oh my god.
23:55 Laci Mosley? So I like immediately like, I hate this for her.
23:58 Speaker 06 Put our router in the like, you know, sink and turned on the water. Cause I was just like, oh, we have to like, they're in our network. Full cleanse. Yeah.
24:05 Laci Mosley? That is so surprising. Sorry, go ahead.
24:07 Speaker 06 No, and then, and then, but I gave her a hard time for it, but I was scammed when I was like 24 by a Craigslist scammer who wanted me to wire money to them. Yeah. I was looking for a roommate and they were like, hello, I'm cute, Dutch girl, looking to prepay six months of rent and come be an artist. This sounds great. I have too much money. I have a big grant check. And I was like, you seem amazing.
24:31 Laci Mosley? My name is Fra Dianna.
24:33 Speaker 06 Literally, I found the email from 2009. Hair, this is just one part of a long, broken English email, but it says, hair, blonde, straight, long. Why would you?
24:44 Laci Mosley? Oh no, Max.
24:45 Speaker 06 Why would you put your whole, your whole description of your haircut? Yeah, it's blonde. Cause it works. It worked. Sadly. So I had to pay my.
24:54 Laci Mosley? Dude's like, white lady, long hair.
24:55 Speaker 06 Exactly. I'm small and I'm an artist. I'm looking to be a sexual explorer.
24:59 Laci Mosley? So much money and sex? Okay. Yeah.
25:03 Speaker 06 So I fell for that. So I, I've, I've not immune to falling for scams.
25:07 Laci Mosley? And Max, honestly, two things. One, I'mma hold your hand with your wife on, she got, there's a certain type of scam where you get bombarded with a lot of information very quickly. And so then you just start acting because you're in a situation where you're like, okay, well I just need to move quickly. And so you don't think about the details. She got bombarded with that type of scam. And your scam was different. Your scam was that. This lady was basically being like, I'm safe. I'm blonde, white, long hair.
25:38 Speaker 06 Yes.
25:38 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Let me live with you. And this is a living situation. So you're looking for a safe roommate. So she kind of snuck in on some like, I'm a safe person type shit.
25:47 Speaker 06 Safety was definitely my priority.
25:49 Laci Mosley? Yeah. And also she was doing something that I do innocently, which is like, remember I said I found the nice gay man? And I was like, gay bestie.
25:59 Speaker 06 Yep.
25:59 Laci Mosley? I was innocent in that situation and he immediately took care of me. And I think Max does what you did, but in this situation, that lady was trying to rob you.
26:09 Speaker 06 Yeah. She basically ended up sending me like a cashier's check for like six months rent, like posted overseas. And she was like, you deposit and give me the difference.
26:21 Laci Mosley? Oh, fuck. Not the, not the check deposit scam?
26:26 Speaker 06 Yeah. And as soon as, then I started Googling the text from the email and found like, this is a total copy pasted scam. And all I ended up losing was I didn't, like, it was too late to find a new roommate for that month. So I lost like 1,200.
26:39 Laci Mosley? 2,500?
26:40 Speaker 06 Yeah. 1,250.
26:42 Laci Mosley? 1,250, not bad. Okay.
26:44 Speaker 06 Could have been worse. Could have been worse. She was looking for me to send her like five grand, you know, like wire it.
26:49 Laci Mosley? And then she was gonna say, oh, I, I, I oversent you the money in the check.
26:53 Speaker 06 That's what she said. So what happens is, is you deposit it. It takes seven days to go through, but you've already wired her the difference. And then she disappears. Yeah.
27:01 Speaker 05 Smart. I gotta get into that.
27:03 Laci Mosley? Know that one real well. Well, you're, you've survived, Max.
27:07 Speaker 06 Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. Smarter for both.
27:09 Speaker 05 Okay. Yeah. My relationship with scams, like, I think I'm just such an easy victim that people, the bar is so low. Like, I'm the person who like falls asleep with the keys in my front door on the outside. Like, there's no, there's, people don't really have to scam me. I spent like the first 18 years of my life just being mugged like weekly. Like, I just, I'm just like, oh, like a walking kind of open, softie book. And it's just sort of like, I don't think people have to like work hard to scam me. So I don't, nothing, I've never been like caught in a trap like Max is. Nothing complicated.
27:46 Speaker 06 There's people will be like, hey, can I have $5 like on the playground?
27:49 Speaker 05 And I'm like, yeah, here's 10. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
27:52 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
27:53 Speaker 05 It was like, growing up, it was like, my bro, I remember like, my brother got, um, mugged for his bike and like, he fought back and got beat up.
28:02 Laci Mosley? Gabe, why is your family getting mugged so much?
28:05 Speaker 05 Cause we were like fat white people in downtown Philly in the eighties. Yeah. Um, and like, uh, yeah. And I remember he fought back and like, got beat up. And my parents were like, just don't fight back. Like, you'll fight, we'll figure out the bike. It's not worth it. So it was just like, I just sort of like, that was like, how I learned. It was just like, if someone asked me for something, it's like, yeah, here you go. And you just kind of like, walk away. And then it's like, so no one really, I've never had to be tricked. Now, I had a friend who's like, dad fell for so many scams.
28:36 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah. I know, I know.
28:38 Speaker 05 Do you know this one? He fell for so many, basically Nigerian prince scams on email that his family, like, he lost his family's money. And they had to like, inspire to keep changing his pass, his email password.
28:50 Speaker 06 Oh, my God.
28:51 Speaker 05 It was like, three or four of them in a row. And it was like, tens and tens of thousands. Um, so that's someone else's story, not mine, but interesting.
28:59 Laci Mosley? I agree with you, Gabe, on the point of it's not worth your life.
29:04 Speaker 05 Yeah.
29:04 Laci Mosley? I, I will, if I, if I feel like I'm in a dangerous situation, I'll be like, yeah, you can have the things.
29:10 Speaker 05 Yeah.
29:11 Laci Mosley? Goodbye. Like.
29:12 Speaker 05 But I guess that's not a scam. That's just sort of like existing.
29:15 Speaker 06 You're, you're, you're, you were a soft target.
29:17 Speaker 05 I'm just like a soft target and also very forgetful and lazy. So like, yeah, like people, like literally just forget to lock the door and shit. So I'm just like, if anyone wants anything, just come over.
29:27 Laci Mosley? Oh, you're a type B traveler. I'm a type B traveler.
29:29 Speaker 05 Yeah, big, big.
29:31 Laci Mosley? Yep. I be losing shit all the time. Definitely. We're on the same page. And I'm like, you can rob me. Don't kill me though. I want my life. I like my life more than.
29:40 Speaker 05 Don't carry your phone in your pocket. I'm like, I don't care. Have it.
29:45 Speaker 06 I'm not gonna buy a money belt, whatever.
29:47 Speaker 05 Yeah.
29:47 Speaker 06 Yeah.
29:47 Speaker 05 I'm just gonna kind of like stumble through life and be fine. Ultimately.
29:52 Laci Mosley? Jenny?
29:53 Laci Mosley? I participated in a very small, very small, family oriented scam.
30:00 Laci Mosley? It just was, it was like a trick, really. I don't think it was a scam. Like, does a scam means like, it's kind of like part of a system that happens over and over again? Or like, could it be kind of like, um, like something that was kind of, you know, orchestrated by a group and we just did it like one time?
30:17 Laci Mosley? Hmm, I don't know if frequency comes into play.
30:20 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
30:20 Laci Mosley? When we talk about scams, I think if you run a scam, even if it's one system.
30:25 Laci Mosley? One time.
30:26 Laci Mosley? Yeah. I do like, I do love the reframing, though, of like, well, we only did it one time. So that doesn't.
30:32 Laci Mosley? Right, like, is it racketeering?
30:33 Laci Mosley? Is it really crime if you do it one time?
30:36 Speaker 06 Made off had one bad year.
30:37 Laci Mosley? Well, here's what I was gonna say. I have a relative who is now, um, dead, who was formerly, like, traditionally made off by made off. He was made offed.
30:48 Speaker 06 Oh, wow.
30:48 Speaker 05 Oh, damn.
30:49 Laci Mosley? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, yeah.
30:53 Laci Mosley? He made off with his money?
30:54 Laci Mosley? He did.
30:55 Laci Mosley? Made off, made off with it?
30:56 Laci Mosley? Made off, made off. Um, but that didn't happen to me. Yeah, I know. I mean, it's like, whoa, whoa. Um, but, okay, so there was this one time when my dad, who's like a really, really, really bad driver, was driving really badly.
31:09 Laci Mosley? So you got it honest, Jenny?
31:11 Laci Mosley? What's that?
31:12 Laci Mosley? You got it honest. You a bad driver, he a bad driver.
31:14 Laci Mosley? Yeah, oh, yeah.
31:15 Laci Mosley? We're all bad drivers.
31:16 Laci Mosley? Yeah, hereditary. Um, so I, uh, so he did something wrong. I forget what he did in driving. And we got pulled over. And it was the wintertime and I was in the backseat with my sisters. My mom was in the front. And the officer starts to like come up to our car. And my mom goes, Jenny, get out of the car and pretend to throw up. And I was like, what? And then she was like, do it, do it, get out. And, and like my sisters both start crying. And I was like, and then I got out of the car and there was a snowdrift. And I loudly pretended to vomit.
31:54 Laci Mosley? And then my, and my mom got out too and was like rubbing my back and she was like whispering in my ear and she was like, keep going. He can't get another ticket. He can't keep going. Do it. And I was like, and he, cause he had so many tickets and, and.
32:08 Laci Mosley? Are you the oldest Jenny?
32:10 Laci Mosley? I'm clearly the middle. I have, I have every need in the world. I'm the middle. Um, so I'm like.
32:16 Speaker 05 But your mom knew you were the actress.
32:18 Laci Mosley? Oh, of course. Neither one of my sisters would have ever done that, nor would she have ever.
32:22 Laci Mosley? I know where the talent was.
32:23 Speaker 05 Yeah, exactly.
32:24 Laci Mosley? She's also like, neither one of my other daughters will like eat shit right now. Like Jenny's the only idiot. Like, let's get her out here. So I'm like.
32:35 Laci Mosley? And my dad just like looks up at the police officer and is like, she's feeling ill. And the police officer's like, okay, like, but you can't do like whatever you did. And my dad's like, obviously I know that. And then like.
32:48 Speaker 05 You can't go a hundred through a red light, turning left.
32:51 Laci Mosley? No, I can.
32:53 Laci Mosley? Drive through people's houses or whatever.
32:55 Speaker 05 Nauseous.
32:55 Laci Mosley? Yeah. My middle child is throwing up.
32:58 Laci Mosley? Yeah. I mean, and again, like, you know, anyway, like the story's like, it's not very relatable.
33:04 Speaker 05 I have to make it to 7-Eleven and get her a juice.
33:06 Laci Mosley? No, it's beautifully relatable. Like you, you really rose to the occasion Jenny. You were like, oh, we need to throw up.
33:14 Laci Mosley? I did it. I, I got in the car and I didn't actually throw up, but I just made all the noises and I did my body how, you know, it happens when you do it. And, um, and then my mom, my mom took a handful of snow and wiped it on my face. Pretending that she was wiping barf off my face. This is, my mom has done this kind of thing. She does it like many times. Where she's like, I'm gonna actually make sure there are no, um, no like holes in this story. And so she like rubs snow on my face and I'm like, and then like we get in the car, we get, we are allowed to go.
33:49 Speaker 06 Just rubbed your face? It seems like an extra humiliation king thing to just be like, eat a big ball of snow idiot.
33:55 Laci Mosley? No, I don't think it was humiliation. I think she was maybe doing it for the plot. She was like.
33:59 Laci Mosley? Oh, she just.
34:00 Speaker 05 She was going Dr. Zhivago, full production.
34:04 Laci Mosley? Yeah. She's like, she's like, we need wet, we need wet snow, like to get the barf off or whatever. Then we, we get back in the car.
34:13 Laci Mosley? She's like, get your mouth wet, get back in the car. Oh, no. She's like, and I get back in the car and we're all, we were silent for like 10 seconds. And then everyone in the car was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I can't believe we did that. It was like really exciting. And then like for the rest of the car ride, I was like looking out the back of the car being like, they, they know we were lying. They're gonna, you know, like they're, they're gonna get my dad. But um, in fact, they did not. And it was like, and none of that ever needed to happen, but I did participate in it. Yeah.
34:51 Laci Mosley? Honestly, your instincts kicked in very fast, very smart of you. Like honestly genius.
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37:37 Laci Mosley? What a beautiful segue into historic hoodwink.
37:41 Speaker 05 Yes.
37:41 Laci Mosley? Cool.
37:42 Laci Mosley? So today we're talking about an ex hotel executive, Steve Farzam. He's been pretending to be a police officer. Oh.
37:52 Speaker 05 Gross.
37:52 Laci Mosley? Fed and other law enforcement personnel since the 1990s. And he got caught again pretending to be a firefighter
38:02 Laci Mosley? in the 2025 LA fires.
38:04 Laci Mosley? No, don't do that.
38:07 Laci Mosley? So this is the.
38:08 Speaker 05 Oh, my God.
38:09 Laci Mosley? What, Steve, what are you doing?
38:10 Laci Mosley? He does look like a firefighter. He got firefighter.
38:14 Speaker 05 Okay, he's got a firefighter haircut.
38:17 Speaker 06 His shirt says 911. That's how many numbers you write Paul.
38:21 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
38:21 Laci Mosley? That's how you know he real. That's how you know it's real.
38:24 Speaker 06 You couldn't just put that on his shirt.
38:26 Laci Mosley? He was like, I'm a cop. I just got 911 on my shirt. That's how y'all know I'm a.
38:30 Speaker 05 It's a business card.
38:31 Laci Mosley? He's verified? What does that mean at this point? Anything?
38:34 Laci Mosley? You can just buy it at this point. It doesn't mean anything.
38:37 Laci Mosley? I don't have it any, I have Twitter anymore or whatever it's called.
38:39 Laci Mosley? So he was a former luxury hotel executive in Santa Monica. He was born in 1978 and he grew up in Brentwood with three brothers and a sister. Honestly, too many brothers. Like, I don't know if you could do that many brothers and be.
38:55 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
38:55 Laci Mosley? Okay, you need more sisters, but he had one. So his father, C. Rose, was an immigrant from Iran who purchased seedy Santa Monica motels before property values in the area skyrocketed. So, so Steve went to Palisades High School, where the movie Carrie was filmed, and it burned down in real life in the LA fires this year. Wow. In his youth, he had run ins with the law and was named a suspect in a string of burglaries, extortion attempts, and acts of vandalism. But he seemed committed to being a cop. And I'm like, well, that makes sense.
39:34 Speaker 05 Yeah.
39:34 Laci Mosley? You're already in there.
39:36 Speaker 06 Yeah.
39:37 Laci Mosley? American police are criminals.
39:38 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
39:39 Speaker 05 Yeah. Yeah.
39:40 Speaker 06 I'm committed.
39:40 Laci Mosley? Lines up.
39:41 Laci Mosley? It's like spy versus spies, the gang robbing the gang. Like, none of this is surprising.
39:46 Speaker 06 At the end of the day, I love having a gun and telling people what to do. So, you know what?
39:51 Speaker 06 Maybe the other police don't agree, but it's who I am. It's in my blood.
39:56 Laci Mosley? Yeah, the law is what I make it. It's how I feel today is the law.
40:02 Speaker 06 It's illegal to deny my truth, actually. And I have a gun, saying it's okay.
40:07 Laci Mosley? It's like, sorry, that's not how it's worked. No, no, no.
40:11 Laci Mosley? So after high school, he moved to Santa Barbara and joined the city police cadet program, but he didn't graduate. Was Eddie Murphy in one of those movies?
40:24 Speaker 05 He's Beverly Hills cop. Yeah. Yeah, Santa Barbara cop. Yeah.
40:28 Laci Mosley? But he didn't graduate.
40:29 Speaker 05 Right. Because it's just very academically rigorous.
40:32 Speaker 06 Yeah. It was more of a police academy situation where he was making the noises of the gun with his mouth.
40:37 Laci Mosley? So many flashcards.
40:38 Speaker 05 He studied really hard. It's just the tests were difficult.
40:41 Speaker 06 Yeah.
40:41 Laci Mosley? I don't know. So why didn't he make it? Are you guys wondering?
40:47 Speaker 05 Yeah.
40:47 Laci Mosley? Why he didn't make it through school?
40:49 Speaker 05 Yes, please.
40:50 Laci Mosley? We don't know.
40:51 Laci Mosley? Okay, okay, all right. I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, okay.
40:55 Laci Mosley? But we know what he did next.
40:57 Speaker 05 Yeah, okay.
40:57 Laci Mosley? I really led y'all up to thinking I was going, no, no, we don't know.
41:01 Speaker 06 No shade, but the bar for graduating a police academy is a tripwire. It is.
41:07 Laci Mosley? Low to the ground.
41:08 Speaker 05 Low to the ground.
41:09 Speaker 06 Yeah.
41:09 Speaker 05 Well, Santa Barbara is a really rough community, so they really need the best on the streets.
41:15 Laci Mosley? Yep.
41:15 Laci Mosley? These are C students of America. And listen, there's nothing wrong with being a C student. I don't think that every type of education works for everybody. I don't think that grades are indicative of how you, how much intelligence you have as a human being. I don't think that. So I'm not saying that, but I am also saying like, come on now, like you can get through this. Okay.
41:36 Speaker 05 Yep.
41:37 Laci Mosley? So in March of 1998, Steve contacted Santa Barbara Police about a drunk driver and tailed the suspect in his own car.
41:49 Speaker 05 No.
41:49 Laci Mosley? So now he doing.
41:50 Speaker 06 No.
41:51 Laci Mosley? Don't do that.
41:51 Speaker 05 Stolen valor shit.
41:53 Speaker 06 Yeah.
41:54 Laci Mosley? Well, also like.
41:56 Speaker 06 Keeping the watch.
41:57 Laci Mosley? Indoctrinated into this type of activity.
42:00 Speaker 05 Yeah.
42:00 Laci Mosley? This is a scam that has happened and been perpetuated through media and movies. How many movies have y'all seen where the cop is like, the, the police chief is like, you're off this case. You're too close to it.
42:13 Laci Mosley? But then they do it.
42:14 Laci Mosley? Chasing the person down on their own.
42:16 Speaker 05 Yeah.
42:16 Speaker 06 They bend the rules because their own principles are more important.
42:20 Laci Mosley? But it's like, they're a good guy.
42:21 Speaker 06 Yeah.
42:22 Speaker 05 Right.
42:22 Laci Mosley? Yeah, this is moral. No, we should not, if, if your boss says sit your ass down, you should go sit your ass down.
42:30 Speaker 06 What a gift to be given a break.
42:31 Laci Mosley? If they say give you.
42:33 Speaker 05 Yeah, a lot of people don't get breaks at work.
42:35 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
42:35 Speaker 06 Oh, my God.
42:36 Laci Mosley? But they're like, for justice. I gotta go for justice and murder a lot of people and fuck up a lot of property for justice.
42:44 Speaker 06 I'm not taking a three month vacation. You can't make me. What?
42:49 Laci Mosley? So after the driver caused a collision, Steve detained him until the cops showed up. He won public praise for his efforts, including letters of like commendation from the local police. In 1999, a firefighter told the Santa Barbara Police that a young guy had shown up at an emergency scene and directed traffic like it was his job. That turned out to be Steve.
43:14 Speaker 05 Ew.
43:16 Laci Mosley? What are you doing?
43:17 Speaker 05 Bad instincts. I hate this guy.
43:19 Laci Mosley? What are you doing? So bossy.
43:20 Speaker 05 Fucking dork narc.
43:21 Laci Mosley? Get out of my business. Yeah. Bossy narc.
43:24 Speaker 06 This is why you can't get costumes with good badges at the Halloween store.
43:27 Speaker 05 Right.
43:28 Speaker 06 Cause the guys like this, they make the belts look different. Yeah.
43:32 Laci Mosley? He wanted to be a hero so bad. He was like, I'm gonna be a hero.
43:38 Laci Mosley? Okay, Hercules. Hercules, goddamn. He was spotted pretending to be a public safety officer several other times, including on his 21st birthday. It's your birthday and this is what you're doing on your birthday?
43:50 Laci Mosley? What? That's what you're doing for your birthday?
43:52 Speaker 05 He's just turning 21? This makes it so much worse. I, ew.
43:58 Speaker 06 Doogie Howser-esque scamster, just absolutely precocious.
44:02 Speaker 05 Doogie Howser, more like it.
44:04 Laci Mosley? He's like, I can't, this is a podcast, I'm directing traffic. I'm directing traffic.
44:11 Laci Mosley? Okay, but I need you guys again.
44:14 Speaker 05 Yep.
44:16 Laci Mosley? Do we think like, he was persevering? Cause he couldn't become a cop? And so instead of quitting on becoming a cop, he, he, he, he just decided he was gonna do it on his own?
44:29 Speaker 05 No, I think he's become the most dangerous criminal of all the annoying.
44:34 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it's a pathology. It's creepy. It's a pathology. It's annoying and it's not, uh, okay.
44:40 Speaker 06 I always like, like, this is not me, um, libeling or whatever, uh, but I, I do always think there's like a core trauma at the heart of these things. Like that he was like five years old and walked into his parents' bedroom while they're having sex and his dad was like, I don't love my son, I love cops, or whatever. There's some, something burned into him where it's like he'll never outrun this thing like, well daddy's love cops and I'm a cop, so daddy loves me, or whatever, for, you know.
45:08 Speaker 05 Woof.
45:09 Laci Mosley? Um, okay.
45:10 Speaker 05 Is this on his, it was that incident on his Wikipedia? Should we add it?
45:15 Laci Mosley? Honestly, it might be. We're getting there. But chat, y'all, y'all have informed me. So, okay. We, we, we won't say that he might be trying to be a good guy, cause we really don't know. So, alright. He drove a 1996 Crown Vic, which we know is a cop car.
45:36 Speaker 05 Yep.
45:36 Laci Mosley? It had tax exempt plates.
45:38 Speaker 05 No.
45:39 Laci Mosley? And he got it by telling the DMV that he was a probation officer, which he was not. The car had red flashing lights, but no police decals. And he would pull people over saying that he worked for the state of California Metro Private Enforcement, a company that was registered in his name.
45:56 Speaker 06 Oh.
45:56 Laci Mosley? He carried a badge and handcuffs.
45:58 Speaker 06 That's a lead.
45:59 Laci Mosley? No.
46:00 Speaker 06 Boo.
46:01 Speaker 05 How many people let this man go further? Like, the DMV, that's crazy to not check that. Whoever let him, like, start this company, like, that means they gave him, like, a tax ID number. They gave him, like, paperwork. That's crazy.
46:20 Speaker 06 This is like the Amazon scam. My wife, like, his, like, company was called Police with a zero or whatever.
46:24 Speaker 05 Right.
46:25 Speaker 06 He's like, yeah, so basically, I work for police.
46:27 Speaker 05 I'm a police cop.
46:28 Speaker 06 Look at it written down quickly. It's obviously spelled the same.
46:31 Speaker 05 That's insane.
46:32 Laci Mosley? Real fast, real fast.
46:34 Speaker 06 Guys, I have to take my paper back.
46:35 Laci Mosley? Now, Gabe, we cannot blame the DMV for not catching this. You know that the DMV is here to create everybody's worst day in their life.
46:42 Speaker 05 That's true. That's true. They're busy.
46:43 Laci Mosley? They don't work hard.
46:45 Laci Mosley? They have a big job doing that. Yeah.
46:47 Speaker 06 They let Jenny and her dad have a license. They don't care. They're not, obviously, locked in.
46:51 Laci Mosley? They're letting us have it.
46:52 Laci Mosley? They let me have one.
46:53 Speaker 05 It's just crazy that, I mean, so I can just walk down the street to the DMV down the block and say, like, I am, I work for the UN, and that means I can park anywhere, and they're not gonna check, is what I'm learning.
47:06 Speaker 06 I was just throwing up a bug. That's why I have snow all over my face. No, just let me park wherever.
47:11 Laci Mosley? My producer just, just said he was trying to be Batman so bad.
47:15 Speaker 05 Yeah.
47:15 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
47:15 Laci Mosley? So bad. He was trying to be Batman.
47:18 Speaker 06 Well, Batman at least had the good sense to have generational wealth to start it.
47:21 Speaker 05 That's true.
47:22 Speaker 06 You know, like, true, society-changing wealth. You know, it's not just like a guy who, you know, can incorporate something for $400.
47:30 Speaker 05 Exactly.
47:31 Laci Mosley? And he, like, invented his own car.
47:35 Laci Mosley? The Batmobile.
47:36 Speaker 05 Yeah, so he was an artist.
47:38 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
47:38 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right, Jenny. You're right. He did invent the Batmobile. So we're gonna, we're gonna give him that.
47:44 Laci Mosley? He did. He's, like, doing a lot of that.
47:46 Speaker 06 Yeah. He had his own scissors, making little bat-shaped throwing stars. Like, that's, that's actually innovation.
47:52 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
47:53 Laci Mosley? And also, we need to talk- About the fact that the Bat- Batman, he wasn't really like shooting people or doing American violence like that. Like he really put in the time and the work to beat everybody.
48:04 Speaker 05 He beat everyone up and then kind of hang them by their feet maybe at the most.
48:08 Speaker 06 Put them in tiles.
48:09 Speaker 05 Yeah.
48:10 Laci Mosley? And also he would start beating them up before he interrogated them. He'd be like, tell me what you know, but he would also be like, tell me what you know. And it's like, beat them up after. He just started beating them up immediately.
48:24 Speaker 05 Yeah.
48:25 Laci Mosley? That takes a lot of energy and also a lot of stamina and athleticism.
48:29 Laci Mosley? Direct traffic, like he didn't direct traffic.
48:34 Laci Mosley? That is so annoying. Yeah, that is so annoying.
48:37 Laci Mosley? Yeah, that was kind of lowbrow. I don't know why this man did that. But at this point, this man starts to get recognized. So the cops issue a warrant for Steve's arrest in 1999. He pled guilty to misdemeanors and was sentenced to three years of probation and community service. I don't think that's long enough. What are we talking about?
48:58 Speaker 06 He's also a probation officer. He can let himself off the hook.
49:00 Speaker 05 That's right.
49:00 Speaker 06 Yeah.
49:00 Laci Mosley? And he was already doing community service by directing traffic.
49:03 Speaker 06 Yeah. He's like, I just gave myself a weekend pass to Palm Springs.
49:08 Laci Mosley? He violated that probation a few months later when he told the woman that he was a cop. Investigating a crime that her boyfriend had committed when the truth was that he had a personal beef with the boyfriend. He probably wanted to date her instead.
49:22 Speaker 05 Yeah.
49:24 Speaker 06 Oh.
49:25 Laci Mosley? Now, why are you hitting on this lady?
49:26 Speaker 05 Woman's heart is to arrest her and.
49:29 Speaker 06 Yep.
49:30 Laci Mosley? Arrest her boyfriend.
49:31 Speaker 05 To arrest her boyfriend. That's right.
49:33 Speaker 06 Right.
49:34 Laci Mosley? Gotta get him out of the picture.
49:36 Speaker 05 Right.
49:36 Speaker 06 Yeah. Aiming a gun at her from her front lawn at two in the morning is always the way. Charm him.
49:42 Laci Mosley? Listen, I do not agree with this man's methods, but I do understand that he is choosing the most aggressive way to get through life. Like I fainted at the airport and he was like, oh, I like this lady. I'mma arrest her boyfriend.
49:55 Speaker 05 Yeah.
49:56 Laci Mosley? That makes sense.
49:57 Speaker 06 Now who you gonna do? That guy's gone. Who's next?
50:00 Laci Mosley? That's terrible. That's fucking terrible. Like, are you weird? You're weird as fuck.
50:05 Speaker 05 You're weird.
50:06 Laci Mosley? That is insane. Why would you do that?
50:08 Speaker 05 And what'd you do on your 21st birthday? Oh, you directed traffic?
50:11 Laci Mosley? You directed traffic?
50:12 Laci Mosley? It was crazy.
50:13 Speaker 05 Got it.
50:14 Laci Mosley? I was like, you go, now you go.
50:16 Speaker 06 Yeah.
50:16 Laci Mosley? Now you stop.
50:17 Speaker 05 We got wild.
50:18 Laci Mosley? That's what he did.
50:19 Speaker 06 I'm smarter than the lights.
50:21 Laci Mosley? Literally.
50:22 Speaker 06 Better at this than the lights.
50:23 Laci Mosley? He was a traffic cone.
50:25 Laci Mosley? Really.
50:25 Laci Mosley? He was like, I am the traffic cone, bitch. Like, the fuck? He was like, I'm, I'm orange and I'm white. I'm the traffic cone. Like, what are you doing? Like?
50:34 Speaker 05 It's your birthday, chill.
50:36 Laci Mosley? Be serious.
50:36 Speaker 06 One of the biggest, one of your last big birthdays for a while.
50:40 Speaker 05 God damn.
50:40 Laci Mosley? Right. Like, that's when you turn the age where you can legally drink. You don't want to go to the bar and have yourself a little sip of beer.
50:47 Speaker 05 Yeah.
50:47 Laci Mosley? I don't know, hang out with your friends.
50:49 Speaker 05 Jesus.
50:50 Laci Mosley? You're racing traffic?
50:52 Speaker 05 Carding everyone in the bar. Fucking weirdo. Okay.
50:58 Laci Mosley? Carding.
50:59 Laci Mosley? Steve was charged again and sentenced to a small amount of jail time, which made it even more unlikely that he would ever be able to be a real cop. I don't like that it says unlikely.
51:09 Speaker 05 Yeah, unlikely.
51:10 Laci Mosley? Very likely that you're not a cop at this point.
51:13 Speaker 05 Right.
51:14 Laci Mosley? So many jails, okay.
51:15 Speaker 06 The window's closing. It's not closed, but it is closing.
51:19 Laci Mosley? I think it should be closed.
51:20 Laci Mosley? If you do this one more time, it is going to be extremely unlikely.
51:24 Speaker 05 Also, because you failed the test 10 years ago and didn't try again.
51:28 Laci Mosley? It is not looking good for you, young man. It is not looking good.
51:31 Speaker 06 You don't have to move out of the dorms at the police academy yet, but you need to, you need to right the ship.
51:36 Speaker 05 We're calling all of this strike one.
51:41 Laci Mosley? Crazy.
51:41 Speaker 05 And we're disappointed.
51:43 Laci Mosley? And we're disappointed, that's all.
51:45 Speaker 05 That's it.
51:46 Laci Mosley? Just disappointed.
51:46 Speaker 05 Yeah.
51:47 Laci Mosley? Yep, we're disappointed.
51:48 Laci Mosley? In 2000, Steve finished three training courses in firearms use, including one that was hosted by the NRA. And one in tactical, yeah, you know, they're all right. The best guys ever. So cool and like, we love them and they're all of our politicians and that's fine.
52:08 Laci Mosley? And they love kids. Yeah, they love schools and they love kids. We love our schools.
52:14 Speaker 06 They know how to host a course, I'll give them that.
52:16 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
52:18 Laci Mosley? So there was like a tactical baton instruction that he also passed. And then one in like officer survival in low light conditions. He passed that as well. Two years later, he completed a course with the riverside.
52:35 Speaker 05 Yeah, I was just.
52:36 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you know how you need to be know, you need to know how to fight at dark.
52:39 Speaker 06 Yeah. It's actually even darker at dusk than at nighttime because your eyes haven't adjusted yet. It's one of those dangerous times to be twirling a baton tactic.
52:47 Laci Mosley? And also, if you're gonna be a racist cop, you need to know how to see black people. Cause at night, I'm just eyeballs and teeth. Like you really need to have your dusk training up so you can see me.
52:59 Speaker 05 Right.
53:00 Laci Mosley? You're not gonna catch me that like if I close my eyes, I open my mouth, you're not gonna see me. So he needed to be his dusk trainer so he could really, you know, shoot black people.
53:09 Speaker 06 As the sun disappears over the mountain.
53:12 Laci Mosley? He also failed out of two paramedic internship programs and the DMV rejected his application for ambulance driver certificates twice. He also tried to drive an ambulance. He was trying to do everything.
53:23 Speaker 06 Not even a cop job.
53:25 Speaker 05 My god.
53:25 Speaker 06 Bouncing around first responders.
53:27 Laci Mosley? Why does he wanna do first responders so much? He's really trying to be, he's nosey.
53:32 Speaker 05 He's nosey.
53:34 Laci Mosley? He's nosey.
53:34 Speaker 06 Can I put away the hose? No, you can't even do that. You didn't pass the hose course.
53:38 Speaker 05 Can I pet the dalmatian? No.
53:41 Laci Mosley? You can't touch the dog. We told you that. Don't touch it.
53:45 Laci Mosley? Sir.
53:46 Speaker 05 Other people can though.
53:46 Laci Mosley? Be serious.
53:47 Laci Mosley? Back off and don't touch it.
53:49 Laci Mosley? He enrolled in courses in Krav Maga.
53:51 Speaker 05 Oy.
53:52 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah.
53:53 Laci Mosley? So then he could get hand to hand combat so he could pass himself off as a cop again. On the first anniversary of September 11, he was spotted posing as a firefighter in Los Angeles. The LAPD arrested him and he pled guilty, resulting in a jail sentence. What, sir?
54:12 Speaker 05 Okay.
54:13 Speaker 06 What the LAPD did on nine 11 was obviously unbelievably brave.
54:18 Speaker 05 Yeah, absolutely. And we will never forget.
54:23 Speaker 05 How they were in LA and the thing happened 3,000 miles away.
54:26 Laci Mosley? All the way in New York, yeah.
54:28 Speaker 06 The way this guy signs up for courses and then just absolutely eat shit every time.
54:33 Speaker 05 It's just like trying out for a hockey team and you can't skate, just biffing it over and over. Every time.
54:40 Speaker 06 Course works not your way in, brother.
54:41 Laci Mosley? Wasting your money.
54:43 Speaker 05 Then came the juggling and that's how he lost his left hand.
54:47 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
54:47 Laci Mosley? Right, no, but there's nothing to first respond with juggling.
54:51 Speaker 05 Right, right.
54:51 Laci Mosley? The balls don't need somebody to see about the fam. He not doing that. In 2004, he started teaching EMT courses at East Los Angeles College. A female student pointed out in class that he said something different from what the textbook said.
55:05 Laci Mosley? Oh, he did?
55:05 Laci Mosley? So Steve started harassing her and she got a restraining order.
55:09 Laci Mosley? Yeah, no.
55:12 Laci Mosley? In 2006, Steve failed to disclose his criminal record for an application for like an EMT permit and it was denied.
55:21 Speaker 05 Yeah.
55:21 Laci Mosley? He did the same thing two years later because he's not gonna stop. He's not. Tyra Banks.
55:28 Laci Mosley? Oh, okay, well, who knew?
55:31 Laci Mosley? I didn't know you were gonna say that.
55:33 Laci Mosley? He was featured on the Tyra Banks Show, which must not have vetted their guest because this is Tyra Banks.
55:40 Laci Mosley? Oh, no.
55:41 Laci Mosley? She was just doing anything with that TV show. I love that lady.
55:45 Speaker 05 Yeah.
55:45 Laci Mosley? She could just be doing anything, it's fine. She taught me how to smize. I learned how to do makeup in a Sephora in New York on the way to an audition. Like, you know, she was problematic, but she taught us a lot. She was right for the time. So, um, yeah, they didn't vet their guest.
56:02 Speaker 05 Oh.
56:02 Laci Mosley? And this is a blurry tape of the segment posted on YouTube by a user.
56:08 Speaker 06 By him?
56:09 Laci Mosley? Yeah, by him.
56:10 Laci Mosley? Oh, he posted it?
56:11 Laci Mosley? He was there to tell people what to include in emergency preparedness kit. And he recommends you include granulated sugar, that is not correct. Let's see what he got to say real quick because we're wrapping this up. We're very close to the end. I can't believe.
56:28 Speaker 07 An emergency medical technician who has some life-saving tips about emergency survival kits and accident safety. So, yeah.
56:38 Speaker 06 I'm saluting, I'm saluting.
56:39 Laci Mosley? How did he get on this show? This is crazy.
56:41 Speaker 07 Home Survival Kit, which my mom is huge on and she's always telling me I should have this and I don't. So what, what's in a home survival kit? Um, home survival kit, you have to have some basic essentials. First thing to include is a flashlight, extra batteries.
56:54 Laci Mosley? He looks like a firefighter.
56:55 Speaker 06 Yeah.
56:55 Speaker 07 Food, that has a good shelf life. You have to have sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar.
56:59 Speaker 06 You're gonna want a solo cup for shaving your beard.
57:02 Speaker 07 When you're down low on sugar, that's what keeps you going. So like just granular sugar, that will absolutely work.
57:09 Speaker 05 Okay, sugar, sugar, sugar, he says.
57:12 Laci Mosley? He's like falling off the chair, first of all, it's like, get on the chair. I'm saying this to my daughter all the time, get your, get your whole butt on the chair, hon. Sweetie, get your booty on the chair, okay? Because when you're eating your sugar, you don't want to fall off your chair.
57:26 Speaker 05 Yeah. You need a flashlight and sugar.
57:29 Speaker 06 Yeah. In an emergency, coffee's gonna be really bitter. The coffee you're gonna be having during the apocalypse is gonna be really bitter. Cause they're gonna leave it too long, so you're gonna want sugar to make you go down easily. And you're gonna need the energy.
57:42 Laci Mosley? What, what, his face while she was introducing him, like, was like, I can't believe that this actually happened.
57:48 Speaker 05 That this worked.
57:48 Laci Mosley? That like I'm on this show. How, how, out of all the people? It's crazy that he scammed his way onto that show.
57:56 Laci Mosley? I mean, it makes sense, cause Tyra Banks was just doing anything. So if you're gonna scam your way onto a TV show, it's definitely with that lady.
58:04 Speaker 06 Five days a week is a lot of days a week to fill.
58:06 Laci Mosley? Yeah. I read, I read Model Land. Like, I'm an OG Tyra Banks, like indoctrinated baby. So that lady was just doing anything and I was like, yes ma'am. I don't know what she doing, but.
58:17 Laci Mosley? I mean, she's not booking the guests, it's not Tyra's fault. You know, like, like somebody else was like.
58:23 Speaker 06 But like, well, Keen Phoenix is not going on and telling a long story on the Tyra Banks. Like, you know, the, the level of guests you need when you're like, we film at 1pm in, yeah.
58:32 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
58:33 Speaker 05 You sign up at the DMV, you just walk in and you say.
58:35 Laci Mosley? Who are we talking to today?
58:36 Speaker 06 Yeah.
58:37 Laci Mosley? Sure. Very much gave the DMV, it's like, who are we talking to today? Okay. Listen, I, Jenny, when I tell you I have DMV stories, like, I didn't get registered in California with my license until the lady that I was working with, Ms. Gertrude, she retired before I got my license registered. In LA, I came back and I was like, I'm here for Miss Gertrude. At that point, we had a vibe. We had a situation and they were like, oh, she is retired. I was like, I still ain't got registered.
59:09 Speaker 06 The lady I was working with.
59:11 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you shouldn't be working with somebody that didn't.
59:13 Laci Mosley? I was gonna say.
59:14 Speaker 05 It's kinda in and out usually.
59:15 Speaker 06 Yeah.
59:15 Laci Mosley? How it feels like, yeah, there was like a bit of a back and forth. Yeah. Yeah.
59:20 Speaker 06 You kinda seem like this guy, Lacey, that's like, you know, you're failing the class D motorcycle license test twice a year or whatever.
59:28 Laci Mosley? I had determination. Okay. I had perseverance.
59:33 Speaker 05 I had bought the sidecar and I was gonna get the rest of the motorcycle soon.
59:37 Speaker 06 I believe I'm a commercial long haul truck driver, so I shall be with the help of Miss Gertrude.
59:42 Laci Mosley? I started with just the sidecar.
59:44 Speaker 05 Yes.
59:46 Laci Mosley? And I worked my way up to the motorcycle.
59:48 Speaker 05 Yeah, and that's what took so long.
59:50 Laci Mosley? Goals, goals, goals. So Christopher Danzel, we're wrapping up here, but Steve, he met Christopher Danzel while they were both working security at a church carnival. Why is he always?
1:00:03 Laci Mosley? Oh, man, this is so gnarly.
1:00:06 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:00:06 Laci Mosley? Steve chose to carry a gun and became partners in fake crime fighting. I, sir. You need, this man needed to play video games because you gotta get these fantasies out. What's happening? They traveled to New Mexico together for a five day training course. He's training again, Max.
1:00:27 Laci Mosley? This one was titled.
1:00:28 Speaker 06 About Revolutionary War reenactment stuff. Like there is, there is an outlet for this. Redo the Battle of Gettysburg over and over, twice a year.
1:00:36 Laci Mosley? So, Steve and his new homie went to New Mexico together for a five day training course. And it was entitled Prevention Response to Suicide Bombing Incident.
1:00:50 Laci Mosley? Which Steve got them into by pretending to be an EMT. Because that's what he'd be doing. When Chris got married and had a child with British porn star named Mackenzie Lee.
1:01:04 Speaker 06 Oh.
1:01:06 Laci Mosley? Get it.
1:01:06 Laci Mosley? Chris and Steve lost touch for a while.
1:01:08 Laci Mosley? Okay, sure.
1:01:09 Speaker 05 That happens in relationships.
1:01:11 Laci Mosley? Busy time, newlyweds, Jeff.
1:01:13 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:01:15 Laci Mosley? I mean, look, Steve was busy getting fired for teaching emergency response classes without proper credentials. So he was busy with that. And and Steve was acting in one of Mackenzie's mattress action acting movie.
1:01:29 Speaker 05 I see.
1:01:30 Laci Mosley? Yeah, and it was on, um, it was on Dog Fart Network. Wait.
1:01:40 Speaker 05 That's what our podcast is on, the Dog Fart Network.
1:01:44 Laci Mosley? You just gave like a lot of information that's really, really, really shocking. Okay, so you're saying Steve, who was not even married, this is his friend's wife, was in one of the films?
1:01:57 Speaker 05 Chris's wife, Mackenzie.
1:01:58 Laci Mosley? Yeah, Chris's wife, Steve was in Chris's wife's movie? And then Dog Fart what?
1:02:03 Laci Mosley? Was in his wife's.
1:02:06 Laci Mosley? Chris was in. Chris, he was in the wife's.
1:02:09 Speaker 05 It was a.
1:02:10 Laci Mosley? In his wife's movie.
1:02:11 Laci Mosley? Okay, okay.
1:02:12 Laci Mosley? He, oh, oh, God, Jenny, I'm gonna throw something else at you. Uh, it was, it was called a cuckold session.
1:02:18 Speaker 05 Oh, sure. Yeah.
1:02:20 Laci Mosley? Cuck it up.
1:02:21 Laci Mosley? Makes sense. Chris wore an LAPD uniform and watched as several men had sex with his wife on the roof of a car in this film.
1:02:30 Laci Mosley? Car, roof of a car, not the hood. Yeah, roof.
1:02:34 Speaker 05 They're like scurrying up the windows.
1:02:36 Speaker 06 Maybe they were pretending to be firefighters, he's a ladder or something, yeah.
1:02:39 Speaker 05 Got it.
1:02:40 Laci Mosley? And then they grew apart, but, um, eventually they they get back together later.
1:02:46 Laci Mosley? Oh, good.
1:02:47 Laci Mosley? They were busy.
1:02:48 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:02:49 Laci Mosley? Steve over here doing crime, Chris over here doing porn.
1:02:53 Laci Mosley? Steve and Chris grew apart. I see what you're saying.
1:02:54 Speaker 06 Well, Steve tried to get certified to be on Dog Fart Network and and did not pass the course.
1:02:59 Speaker 05 He passed the test.
1:02:59 Laci Mosley? But he couldn't climb the car to get on the roof.
1:03:04 Laci Mosley? That final test for you, climate card. Sorry, go ahead.
1:03:08 Laci Mosley? Oh, you're amazing. In 2009, Steve appeared to leave fake law enforcement behind and return to the family business. He worked as the chief operating office, like officer of one of his dad's properties, the Shore Hotel. Oh, right. He's an nepo baby. Forgot that. Why is he trying to be a cop? So it's right next to the Santa Monica Pier where he went to work for his family. He accepted awards for environmental stewardship and social responsibility. I don't know when he was doing that, but okay, give him awards. But he also filled out incident reports on suspicious people he saw on his family's properties. At least one, he conducted like a citizen's arrest.
1:03:45 Speaker 06 No.
1:03:48 Laci Mosley? Can't believe.
1:03:48 Speaker 06 None of my business. What are you doing?
1:03:51 Laci Mosley? Doesn't feel right.
1:03:52 Laci Mosley? Trayvon Martin.
1:03:53 Laci Mosley? Yeah, don't do it.
1:03:55 Laci Mosley? Arrest.
1:03:55 Laci Mosley? Don't do that.
1:03:57 Laci Mosley? Uh, you're just a weirdo who wants to do violence to people. So on the back of his black office chair, it had the words commander in chief embroidered in red. He kept a Beretta handgun, a shotgun, and a rifle on site at the hotel. The hotel said he hasn't worked there for five years, whatever. Anyway, there's a raid. So, um, in 2014, due to his former friend, Chris, who was in the porn.
1:04:21 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:04:22 Laci Mosley? Yeah. Acting as an FBI informant, law enforcement was finally able to raid Steve's Brentwood mansion. It was a collaboration between the California DOJ, the Department of Motor Vehicles, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, the FBI, Santa Monica Police Department, all the departments.
1:04:43 Speaker 05 DMV finally stepping up.
1:04:44 Speaker 06 Yeah. Alphabet soup.
1:04:46 Speaker 05 To do the right thing.
1:04:47 Speaker 06 Let's do it.
1:04:48 Speaker 05 Okay.
1:04:49 Laci Mosley? Can you imagine you getting arrested and they like license and registration?
1:04:55 Laci Mosley? How did we get here? They found 16 firearms, 12 emergency radios.
1:05:01 Speaker 05 Okay.
1:05:02 Laci Mosley? That man was listening to all the emergency radios.
1:05:04 Laci Mosley? A lot of radios, yeah.
1:05:06 Laci Mosley? Forty.
1:05:09 Laci Mosley? So much granulated sugar.
1:05:11 Laci Mosley? So much.
1:05:12 Laci Mosley? Forty-three forged law enforcement badges in a fully marked California Highway Patrol cruiser outfitted with lights. So he had the police car that you're not supposed to have if you're not a cop.
1:05:25 Speaker 06 This is what serial killers have to, to, to trick people to getting into their car.
1:05:31 Laci Mosley? This, I thought, yeah, this is the, probably the biggest triggering fact for me because so many women have been pulled over and assaulted by men.
1:05:41 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:05:42 Laci Mosley? Fake cop cars. It is not.
1:05:45 Laci Mosley? That is so fucked up.
1:05:46 Laci Mosley? It's the reason why if I'm on the highway and I'm getting pulled over, because I'm a bad driver, I know I'm gonna get pulled over sometimes. I always will like put on my hazards and drive to a well-lit gas station, to a well-lit place with cameras. I'm not gonna get pulled over on the side of the road where nobody can see what's going on because I don't even know if you're a cop for real.
1:06:05 Speaker 06 Oh, wow.
1:06:07 Laci Mosley? And I recommend this, y'all, please. And it doesn't matter, we're all in danger. Woman, man, they, them, all of y'all. If you get pulled over and it's dark and there's no cameras, take your ass to a gas station. Put your hazards on so they know you're not running from them and take your ass to a gas station where there are cameras.
1:06:26 Speaker 06 That's why when I get in the back of the cab, I always check to see if the lock is sharpened to a point, like in The Bone Collector.
1:06:31 Speaker 05 I was thinking about that movie. That is the grossest thing.
1:06:35 Speaker 06 I'm never gonna let myself get Bone Collector.
1:06:37 Speaker 05 Bone Collector.
1:06:38 Speaker 06 The, the person, when they go to leave the car, they, they cut their finger because the, the lock has been sharpened to like a, a knife.
1:06:45 Speaker 05 It's so gross.
1:06:46 Speaker 06 And then they get boiled.
1:06:48 Speaker 05 He's posing as a cab driver, right?
1:06:49 Speaker 06 Yes, yes, but it's a similar trusting of a, you know, collective backseat.
1:06:55 Speaker 05 So scary.
1:06:55 Speaker 06 The worst. Made up, unlike this, but. Because we know cab drivers and Uber drivers have never done anything bad, so.
1:07:02 Speaker 05 That's right.
1:07:02 Laci Mosley? Yeah, that's another thing is like, be careful in Ubers, y'all, because there is something that you sign when you sign up for Uber that does not allow you to do public litigation. It's all arbitration. So a lot of things that happen in Ubers that have happened to people you will never know about because even if they decide to pay you and settle the case or whatever, they make you sign this situation where you can't talk about it.
1:07:31 Speaker 05 Like the user agreement?
1:07:32 Laci Mosley? Yes.
1:07:33 Speaker 05 Whoa, I've never read one of those. Okay. Yeah.
1:07:35 Laci Mosley? So the state of California brought seventy seven charges against Steve, including seventy three felonies. In twenty fifteen, he was sentenced to one hundred eighty two days behind bars, not enough, of which he served ninety, not enough, awaiting sentencing. He also got five years probation. His defense said that he had a hero complex addiction.
1:07:57 Speaker 05 No.
1:07:58 Laci Mosley? It's giving affluenza.
1:08:00 Speaker 05 Yeah, yes.
1:08:01 Laci Mosley? Hero complex addiction?
1:08:04 Speaker 05 No.
1:08:04 Speaker 06 No.
1:08:05 Speaker 05 Find heroin, sir.
1:08:06 Laci Mosley? How are you addicted to your complex, too?
1:08:09 Speaker 05 That's.
1:08:10 Laci Mosley? Like, isn't a complex enough? Isn't a complex?
1:08:13 Speaker 05 Right.
1:08:13 Laci Mosley? Enough? Isn't it redundant?
1:08:15 Speaker 05 He has a hero complex.
1:08:16 Laci Mosley? Being in everybody's business was my crack.
1:08:19 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:08:19 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:08:23 Laci Mosley? It makes sense when you don't think about it.
1:08:25 Speaker 05 You were at my birthday party. You guys know what I'm like.
1:08:28 Speaker 06 I'm like a chocoholic, but for using my badge that's fake to threaten women.
1:08:34 Laci Mosley? Jesus Christ. So, yeah, the judge told Steve, you violated probation. The consequences will be very serious. Do we understand each other? Steve said yes, and he was released from custody custody and continued to work as the COO of his, you know, nepo baby hotel. We're wrapping up right now. Steve was arrested again, because, you know, he gotta get arrested more.
1:08:59 Speaker 06 Yeah, he got that HCA.
1:09:03 Laci Mosley? In July, for pointing a laser pointer at an aircraft, including news helicopters. The helicopters got the license plate on the car that was lasering them and saw that it was registered to state. Another raid on his Brentwood home was found. He had another raid. How you having multiple raids?
1:09:23 Laci Mosley? What is he doing?
1:09:25 Speaker 06 This one's not helpful, though. This, like, there's no world where it's like, I'm pretending to be a cop who's shining a laser pointer.
1:09:32 Speaker 05 Maybe he's trying to direct them.
1:09:34 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:09:35 Laci Mosley? What is like?
1:09:36 Speaker 05 To the real crimes.
1:09:37 Laci Mosley? How big, if you have that laser pointer, like, how big is it?
1:09:41 Speaker 05 Yeah, what is that?
1:09:41 Laci Mosley? Is it like one of the ones that a cat chases, but it somehow just reaches a plane? Or is it like a big thing? It's like as big as a water, water gun?
1:09:48 Speaker 05 That's very big.
1:09:49 Laci Mosley? It's really big.
1:09:50 Laci Mosley? Crazy blue light.
1:09:51 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:09:51 Speaker 05 He should do something cooler with that size laser.
1:09:54 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:09:54 Speaker 05 Yes.
1:09:55 Laci Mosley? Wow.
1:09:56 Laci Mosley? It looks like the bat signal, sir. What are you doing and why? So this is his second raid on the Brentwood home.
1:10:05 Speaker 05 Right.
1:10:05 Laci Mosley? We are going in circles. So they came to his home, raided it, and they found that a car, as well as a fully functioning fire truck registered to stand up with the fire department that doesn't exist, was at his home.
1:10:22 Speaker 05 No.
1:10:22 Laci Mosley? And we have a video of the truck. Where did he get this truck?
1:10:26 Laci Mosley? Where did he get this truck?
1:10:28 Laci Mosley? This fire truck. He was a nepo baby.
1:10:30 Speaker 05 Cease seemingly has a fake registration to the Santa Muerte Fire Department. L.A. Fire officials trying to determine if this is the same unauthorized truck reported entering the Palisades Fire Zone last January.
1:10:45 Laci Mosley? Oh, my God.
1:10:46 Speaker 05 Wow.
1:10:47 Laci Mosley? Santa Muerte, like saint of death?
1:10:50 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:10:51 Laci Mosley? What is he doing?
1:10:52 Speaker 05 That's where you want to raise a family.
1:10:53 Laci Mosley? What is he doing? What is he doing?
1:10:56 Laci Mosley? He was arrested without bail for impersonating first responders, and he had firearms violations, and the government gave him some fraud charges in relation to his fraud that he did with the Palisades Fire, because he was pretending to be a cop and a fireman and, uh,
1:11:16 Speaker 05 Distracting planes. And distracting planes.
1:11:19 Speaker 06 That are presumably dumping water in there.
1:11:21 Speaker 05 I hate this guy.
1:11:22 Laci Mosley? This man was just a menace to society.
1:11:24 Speaker 06 I was on the fence right until the end.
1:11:25 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:11:27 Laci Mosley? It's really a tough.
1:11:28 Laci Mosley? He was a menace to society, but hey, thank you guys so much for being here. I'm always sad. At the end of the show.
1:11:37 Speaker 06 This is such a blast.
1:11:38 Laci Mosley? Where would you like to be found? Plug anything that you want to plug and yeah.
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1:11:51 Speaker 06 I Need You Guys show on Instagram and all the social media. And there's a voicemail number. We take listener questions. So we love also hearing from people. Listen to the show and send us questions. And yeah, that's it.
1:12:03 Laci Mosley? We'll help you figure it out. Yeah, that's it. Thank you for having us.
1:12:06 Speaker 05 Thank you for having us. This was so fun.
1:12:08 Speaker 06 You're the best.
1:12:08 Laci Mosley? Thank you for being here. You guys are fantastic. And I, this was honestly, truly a huge honor. And thank you for being my group chat. Cause I really did feel like this is my group chat. So, thank you.
1:12:20 Laci Mosley? Thank you.
1:12:21 Speaker 05 Thanks.
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