#313 - Exiled VICE Founder: The #1 Villain in Political Media | Gavin McInnes

Watch this episode FULLY UNCENSORED: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Gavin McInnes created Vice Magazine in 1994. He is also known as the "Godfather of hipsterdom". SPONSORS https://huel.com/danny - Use code DANNY for 15% off. https://square.com/go/danny - Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS https://censored.tv FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Mr. Death 08:29 - "Be the culture" 12:56 - Puerto Ricans in New York 16:12 - The crusade against white, straight, christian men 26:39 - The evolution of Gavin 42:42 - Disney adults 49:11 - Surfing & North Korea 53:43 - Why Gavin hates Asia & Eastern culture 01:00:31 - Adderall & testosterone 01:05:08 - Why tomboys went extinct 01:08:50 - Why Gavin got fired from VICE 01:20:29 - Working with Johnny Knoxville & Steve-O 01:26:50 - Defending Harvey Weinstein 01:38:51 - Why Gavin got completely cancelled 01:51:25 - Candace Owens 01:58:03 - Christianity vs Islam 02:01:27 - In NYC on 9/11 02:13:42 - Meth is a s*x drug 02:16:41 - Proud Boys are everywhere in Florida 02:19:13 - Why people aren't having kids 02:29:51 - Tucker Carlson 02:37:49 - Will Shane Smith & Gavin reunite? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:00Danny Jones?

  The following episode has been heavily censored with parts redacted due to the unsettling controversial topics discussed and the naughty words that were used. However, if you want the full, unedited, ad-free version of the podcast, it's on our Patreon. It's linked at the top of the description below. Enjoy the show.

• 1:24Danny Jones?

  Is that true? Do black people think that the Holocaust didn't happen? I don't think most black people care. I don't think so either. I think black people are... Probably 90% of black people have a very negative view of Jews. Really? Well, especially Kanye, he's one of them. I actually know, he just took it back the other day. I saw that you tried to talk him off the ledge. You tried to, you interviewed him and tried to convince him not to be an anti-Semite. Yeah. That went great. That was a smash hit. I couldn't get past the first 10 minutes.

• 1:59Danny Jones?

  It's a good interview. You should watch it. It's funny.

• 2:03Danny Jones?

  Have you ever heard? I was just talking to- Are we live? I mean, are we recording? We're recording. Okay, this is it. This is the show. Yeah, yeah, this is the show. This is the show. There's this dude, um, there's this documentary that Hamilton Morris's dad did called Mr. Death. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. That rings a bell, yeah. It's a, it's a film about a guy who, his dad worked for the Bureau of Prisons and the electric chair broke. And they needed somebody to fix the electric chair. So they told this guy's dad, like, "Figure out, go find some electrician to fix the electric chair so we can keep killing people or whatever, "because we don't have much time." And he took it home and then his like, his kid, his like teenage kid was tinkering around in the garage and like fixed it. Unbeknownst to him, and he came downstairs like, "Dad, I fixed the electric chair."

• 2:47Danny Jones?

  And they brought it back to the prison and it worked. And then the prison's like, "Oh my God, this is amazing. "We want to hire your son to fix all the electric chairs across the country." And then eventually they started hiring him to develop new ways to execute people that weren't like, because a lot of people were getting electrocuted and not dying. They were just like getting turned into vegetables. Mm-hmm. And then, um, he eventually invented gas chambers. Then he invented, uh, he developed- What year is this? I don't know. You'd have to look it up. Like pre-World War II or recently? No, this is not, this is after World War II. I want to say this is in like the seventies. Okay. I could be wrong, but right around there. And then he invented the lethal injection stuff and all these crazy ways of executing people.

• 3:30Danny Jones?

  And they called him, uh, well, the name of the documentary is Mr. Death. And eventually there's this guy, I'm sure you're familiar with him, Zundel. This guy who went through- Holocaust Denier? Holocaust Denier, yeah. So Zundel found out about this guy and found out he was building gas chambers for the prisons and used him and convinced him to testify for him in court to prove that the gas chambers in, uh, Auschwitz and all across Germany and Poland- Wow, we're really diving into it, yeah. Yeah. And convinced them and used him as like an expert witness who had no training in any of this shit and just figured it out as he was going. That, uh, they were, they didn't, they didn't work. There's no way those gas chambers would have worked. Anyways.

• 4:09Speaker 03

  So before we started the show, I was doing a joke about saying the most offensive thing possible.

• 4:14Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 4:14Speaker 03

  And using the N word and Holocaust, but here on the live show or the real show, we're actually discussing whether the Holocaust happened or not in the first 10 seconds.

• 4:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah, isn't that good?

• 4:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, sure.

• 4:26Danny Jones?

  I think it's right on brand.

• 4:27Speaker 03

  I don't mind. I don't mind.

• 4:29Danny Jones?

  So anyways, that, yeah, that was a crazy documentary. You should watch it.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  Okay. I mean, are we, are we now discussing the Holocaust, whether it happened or not?

• 4:39Danny Jones?

  Oh, no, it was just, it was just an anecdotal thing. I thought you might find it.

• 4:42Speaker 03

  It's kind of a big, that's like talking about whether your mother cheated on your dad or not.

• 4:48Danny Jones?

  I don't think.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  Like, we can't just gloss over that.

• 4:50Danny Jones?

  No, it's just an interesting, like, dive into, like, this weirdo, this, like, crazy character.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  But it doesn't sound very weird. It sounded like he was very, an accurate scientist.

• 5:00Danny Jones?

  No, he wasn't a scientist. He just got, he just, like.

• 5:02Speaker 03

  Well, an accurate electrical engineer.

• 5:05Danny Jones?

  He wasn't even, he wasn't even, like, trained in electrical engineering. He just, like, he was. He taught himself.

• 5:10Speaker 03

  Huh. You don't want this banned off YouTube?

• 5:14Danny Jones?

  No, it'll be banned off YouTube.

• 5:15Speaker 03

  But your, your first question is, I saw this documentary about this super smart guy.

• 5:21Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 5:21Speaker 03

  That says the Holocaust never happened.

• 5:22Danny Jones?

  I called him smart? I don't think I called him smart.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  He sounds smart.

• 5:25Danny Jones?

  You think?

• 5:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:27Danny Jones?

  Well, he was kind of an idiot because he got hoodwinked by this other guy.

• 5:29Speaker 03

  He fixed an electric chair.

• 5:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah, well, I mean, that's a certain kind of intelligence, right? But he also got hoodwinked by the other guy to convince him to testify.

• 5:37Speaker 03

  How do you feel about the Holocaust?

• 5:39Danny Jones?

  I mean, I don't deny the Holocaust. I'm not a Holocaust denier. The guy.

• 5:42Speaker 03

  How many people you think died?

• 5:45Danny Jones?

  What, well, I don't know. What's the consensus?

• 5:46Speaker 03

  Six million is the general consensus.

• 5:48Danny Jones?

  Okay, yeah, I mean, I, this is not like my expertise or my background. I kind of like, whatever the narrative is.

• 5:53Speaker 03

  That's how I feel.

• 5:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 5:55Speaker 03

  It's just a weird thing to bring up at the very beginning of an interview.

• 5:57Danny Jones?

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  I'm not mad.

• 5:59Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay.

• 6:00Speaker 03

  But you're like, you're, it's like starting an interview with, when do you think a child is truly viable?

• 6:08Speaker 03

  Know what I mean? Like, holy shit, dude. I'm totally into any topic you want to talk about, but wow.

• 6:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 6:14Speaker 03

  That's right out of the gate.

• 6:16Danny Jones?

  Okay. What do you want to talk about?

• 6:18Speaker 03

  No, no, I'll talk about anything. My, my, my thing about genocides and Holocaust and is, and it's not a very popular subject, but I don't really care. Like Mao killed 80 million.

• 6:33Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 6:34Speaker 03

  So like Ernst Sandel is really into going to Auschwitz and checking like the Zyklon B and all this stuff.

• 6:40Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 6:40Speaker 03

  So, okay, you're the, you're the guy, right? So me like getting into Mao's Great Leap Forward and the 80 million that were killed, like I'd have to go like with a Chinese translator and go through all these things. And that's a valid thing to do. You should question all of these horrific mass murders like Pol Pot, Cambodia and all this stuff.

• 7:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 7:03Speaker 03

  I don't have the time. I mean, I'm so concerned with today.

• 7:09Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 7:09Speaker 03

  And the massive corruption that goes on and the rewriting of history like from last week. Like we're told that the media had no idea Biden was retarded until three days ago.

• 7:22Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 7:22Speaker 03

  And you go, no, that's not true. So I'm, I'm definitely open to investigating the Holocaust.

• 7:28Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  Investigating Pol Pot, investigating the, the Armenian genocide, investigating all of these horrific genocides. Definitely. Sure. If I have extra time, I'm definitely going to get to that. But like within the short amount of time I have every day, I'd like to investigate the media's lies about Joe Biden one hour ago.

• 7:49Danny Jones?

  Uh huh.

• 7:50Speaker 03

  And then spread backwards from there.

• 7:52Danny Jones?

  See, I'm kind of the opposite. I kind of don't give a what's going on in the media today that much.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  Really?

• 7:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah, no.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  That's an interesting take.

• 7:59Danny Jones?

  I feel like.

• 7:59Speaker 03

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• 8:02Danny Jones?

  Oh, it's this stuff. It's called methylene blue.

• 8:05Speaker 03

  Is that one of your sponsors?

• 8:06Danny Jones?

  No, no, no, they don't sponsor me, but it's a, it's a, it's blue jean dye.

• 8:10Speaker 03

  As one does.

• 8:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 8:12Speaker 03

  Ingest blue jean dye.

• 8:13Danny Jones?

  Yeah, or it could be fish tank cleaner as well.

• 8:15Speaker 03

  Okay, alright.

• 8:17Danny Jones?

  Um, what was I gonna say?

• 8:18Speaker 03

  So you don't care about what's going on in the news right now?

• 8:20Danny Jones?

  I, I, not that I don't care, I'm just not as interested because it just feels like some, it just feels like a big distraction to keep. Don't you feel that way sometimes? That like, all the bullshit that you see in all like the, the 30 second clips on all the news media websites and all the little podcast clips that come out about Biden this, Kamala that, Trump this. Blah, blah, blah. Like, none of it, like, it's just like.

• 8:42Danny Jones?

  Wash your hands and repeat tomorrow, the next thing. Like, we forgot about Trump getting almost assassinated as soon as the Olympic thing came out with all the fat trannies jumping around.

• 8:52Speaker 03

  Oh, I didn't forget, mother.

• 8:54Danny Jones?

  Didn't forget, but most people, man.

• 8:56Speaker 03

  That's in my frontal lobe.

• 8:58Danny Jones?

  Don't you think, though, that some of this cultural stuff, this culture war stuff that's happening every single day, is just, is just purposely to keep us divided so that whoever's at the top can control us?

• 9:09Speaker 03

  Well, it better not be, or I'm out of a job.

• 9:13Speaker 03

  But my job is to talk about modern culture war shit and how it applies to everything around us. And, uh, I mean, you're making me doubt myself and maybe I should retire, but, uh. I, uh, I, I think that this is the most important modern culture in, in the history of America. I mean, outside of the Civil War, in recent history.

• 9:37Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  Like, if Trump didn't win, we were toast. And the fact that Trump won is huge. And now that he's winning, I wanna like shine a spotlight on the fact that like, we got the Panama Canal back. This is a big deal. Um, I wanna shine a spotlight on detransitioners. These kids who are like, why did you tell me to cut my [__] off?

• 9:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 9:58Speaker 03

  That, I shouldn't have done that. Now, as far as like their mini genocide, uh, yeah, how many people died in their mini genocide? Definitely, let's, let's check that out at some point. But right now, I want you to know that, um, you know, schools are still woke. People are still getting canceled. We still haven't won the culture wars. And, and as Andrew Breitbart said, politics is downstream from the culture. So, I want to, I wanna get, I, I keep saying on my show, be the culture. Like, if someone is at the airport in a wheelchair and they can walk, go, you can walk.

• 10:36Speaker 03

  Or at a bar, "Did you tip?" Like, and my wife gets so, I hate these things. Go play a video, we'll listen. Alright, yeah, we'll take them off. But, um, my wife goes like, "What are you doing? Why are you getting involved? You're causing a scene." I go, "I'm a patriarch. This is a patriarchy. This is my society. So this guy sitting in the wheelchair, who isn't paralyzed, is my problem. That's my wheelchair." And I was in an argument- Was this on the Disney cruise you saw this? That's a different thing. Okay. Um, we'll get to that, but there was these Skells at my local bar. Who's that? Skells is like a crackhead loser, junkie, piece of shit, black guy and his fat white girlfriend.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  And they, they come in and they wanna plug in their phones and they ask for a water. And I go, "No, you're not getting a water and you're not plugging your phones." And the barmaid is like, "This isn't your bar, Gavin." And I go, "Is it really not my bar? Like, this is my bar I come to. Is your church not your church? This is your church." Right. Say someone is like, I don't know, spray painting "Fuck you" on your street. That's my street. You're not gonna spray paint that on my street. Right. So it's my street, it's my bar, it's my church, and it's my airport. Like, I'm in Western society. So you're in a wheelchair in my airport. So be the culture, get involved today.

• 12:02Speaker 03

  Now, the fact that you seem more interested in the past, I totally respect that. We need historians. But personally, my obsession these days has been like, "What are you doing? Why are you wearing Crocs and pajamas at the airport? And the drunker I get, the more I confront them. And that's not good, because I'm gonna get stabbed." You've been knocked out, haven't you? Like, you got knocked out during a, uh, what was that? What was that? I was doing a pilot called, uh, "The Immersionist." It's a, it's a word I invented that's not very sexy. But I'm like, "If you're doing journalism, don't sit at your desk Googling. Like, go live with them. Go, go be them." In fact, I saw you have Thomas Morton on your eraser board.

• 12:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, because we wanted to, we wanted to get him on the show. So, he took my concept and made it his career. Immersionism. Well, when he started at Vice, he was a very high IQ intern that I knew was good, but had zero testosterone.

• 13:05Speaker 03

  But was willing to do anything. He'd fight Mike Tyson. That's why we call him baby balls. Because he had a bottle of ketchup he was gonna smash on his head and everyone was like putting down money to do it. And I'm like dude, can stop. Like the glass on a ketchup bottle is like an inch thick. You're gonna cut your, you're not just gonna like get a bloody head. You're gonna cut your facial muscles and you're gonna be Jean Chrétien, the Prime Minister of Canada. You're gonna look like the Nazis, the dueling stars. Yeah, you're gonna be like, they made me smash a bottle of ketchup on my head.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  And I'm like, stop dude. And he was, I had to hold the ketchup bottle. And then this dude, Trevor Simms, or Andrew WK's manager goes, that guy's got balls. He's little, but he's got balls. He's baby balls. So he became baby balls forever. But what I did with baby balls, I was like, alright, like Puerto Ricans in New York, major part of New York, yeah, us upper middle class whites, don't really know them. Although I do know, I don't know how raunchy we can get in this show, but You can get as raunchy as you want. We can, we'll probably censor The same guy Trevor and his buddy Mark Ryan, they were like, how come we lived in New York for like 20 years, no one's ever fucking Puerto Rican. And they go, let's start fucking Puerto Ricans. So they go, uh, they go up to them on the train and they're like, hi, my name is Trevor.

• 14:24Speaker 03

  Hi, my name is Mark. Uh, what's your name? And like, oh, I'm fucking Maria, what's up?

• 14:32Speaker 03

  And then they cross streams where these cultures weren't meant to be together. So Mark is fucking one of them. And, uh, he feels like something going on. So he fishes his finger in there. He pulls out a condom. He was not wearing a condom.

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• 16:05Speaker 03

  It was still in there from another guy. Oh. And she's got pigtails and she's chewing gum. And she's like this, and he goes, holy shit. And he goes back to work. But he's like, I just found a condom in there. And she goes, I know, that's bugged out, right? And I'm like, all right, we're not meant to be together. We're very different. So when Baby Ball started Advice, I go, let's live with these people. So we set up a thing where he lived with like a Puerto Rican family in the project. They might've been Dominican, same difference.

• 16:38Danny Jones?

  Thomas.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  A little blacker. Yeah.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  And, you know, it was a really cool expose on how different these cultures are. Like, one thing they do is they don't want roaches. So when they have a pizza, they put it in the sink. And then they soak it, and then they roll it into a tube and put it in the garbage. Some junkie uncle was there, sleeping all day. Anyway, Baby Ball's went on to have a pretty good career as an immersionist. And

• 17:06Speaker 03

  I think that's an important part of like, modern culture is like, what are you guys doing?

• 17:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  And we don't do that anymore. We don't know anything about each other, which is why you have this woman, where white women, like, watch these movies where there's a bunch of Klansmen, who were like, "Looky here, boys! This black lady thinks she can be a scientist! Not on my watch!" Meanwhile, if there's a black woman that wanna be a scientist, everyone would be [bleep] off, like, "Come on in, come on in."

• 17:37Speaker 03

  Do I sound crazy right now?

• 17:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about right now.

• 17:40Speaker 03

  Okay, so-

• 17:40Danny Jones?

  White women wa- like to watch?

• 17:42Speaker 03

  White women like to watch movies and commercials where black, uh, where black women are geniuses, and, uh, white men are complete [bleep] idiots.

• 17:51Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay, I see what you're saying.

• 17:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, can't put the furniture together, and the black woman comes in and she's like, "It's called an alley key, moron."

• 17:58Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 17:59Speaker 03

  And then that's in their sitcoms, and in their soap operas, and in their movies.

• 18:03Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's how they, that's how they try to make Hollywood diverse, right?

• 18:06Speaker 03

  Like Sinners, the new movie Sinners. It's these, these magical Negroes who, uh, work with vampires, and then the KKK is like, "Not on my watch, boy!"

• 18:17Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 18:19Speaker 03

  Which may have been true at some point, but it's not who we are.

• 18:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Did you watch any of the Super Bowl commercials last year? There were some interesting ones.

• 18:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I did.

• 18:29Danny Jones?

  There was the one with, uh, Tom Brady and, who, who else was it? Uh, it was like an Israeli commercial? That's paid for by Israel, wasn't it?

• 18:41Speaker 03

  Are we going back to the Holocaust again? Is this like a-

• 18:45Danny Jones?

  No.

• 18:45Speaker 03

  Anti-Semitic hit piece?

• 18:46Danny Jones?

  No, no, it's not anti-Semitic. What was this commercial? Yeah, play it. What was this? I could be wrong. I might just be projecting my own, uh-

• 18:54Speaker 03

  With, uh, Vince Vaughn? Yeah, that's it. That's it. No, maybe that's not it. That's it with, with, yeah, this is it right here. The no hate one. Play this one. I hate hate. Put your, put your, have you seen this? Hate, hate, hate is one of my pet peeves. Have you seen this right here? That's this commercial? I don't know. Play it for him.

• 19:10Speaker 04

  I hate you because we from different neighborhoods. I hate you because you look different. I hate you because I don't understand you. I hate you because people I know hate you.

• 19:18Speaker 03

  Wait, can we just pause it here? Yeah, pause it. So Snoop Dogg is from Compton. Yes. Everyone in his community hates everyone else for being from the wrong neighborhood.

• 19:32Speaker 03

  Chinese, even probably different black neighborhoods. Right. So he's mocking that culture. That's his culture. Tom Hardy. Tom Brady. Tom Brady, sorry. His neighborhood masturbates to the concept of any other neighborhood giving a about them. And they would love, like, if they went to Harlem and they got high-fived, they would ejaculate in their pants. So this is such horse shit. Snoop Dogg is lampooning this fictional black dude who is him. And Tom Brady is lampooning this dude who's not even remotely close to him. That's the thing that drives me nuts about this crusade against like Christian, white, heterosexual males.

• 20:15Speaker 03

  We need to expose their racism because it's latent. They, I've known a lot of different demographics over the years. They're the least racist group I've ever come across in my life. Maybe to a fault. But like, this guy and all his friends, if a black dude showed up to a party, I mean, he might get, it'd be like the Beatles in 1950, like, he might have his clothes ripped off. But then he's like, I don't like blacks. They totally suck, dude. Finish, finish playing it. I want to see the, go to the end of it.

• 20:48Danny Jones?

  Because I need someone to blame. Because you talk different.

• 20:50Speaker 04

  Because you act different. Because you're just different.

• 20:58Danny Jones?

  You're as stupid as this.

• 20:59Speaker 03

  Man, I hate that things are so bad.

• 21:01Danny Jones?

  What's on your head?

• 21:02Speaker 03

  That we have to do a commercial about it.

• 21:03Danny Jones?

  Me too.

• 21:05Danny Jones?

  Stand up to hate. Look, paid for by the Foundation to Combat Anti-Semitism. Okay, so I was right. I'm not crazy. Take your hat off.

• 21:12Speaker 03

  Retarded. You know, the problem with these ADL, SPLC things is like, they give Jews a really bad name.

• 21:19Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 21:19Speaker 03

  And if I was in charge of Jews.

• 21:21Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 21:21Speaker 03

  I'd be like, alright, first of all, ADL's abolished, SPLC's abolished.

• 21:25Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 21:26Speaker 03

  Like, Yay says the Jews control the banks.

• 21:30Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  And they freeze his bank accounts.

• 21:31Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  If I was in control of Jewish PR, I'd be like, guys, let him rant.

• 21:37Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:38Speaker 03

  Let him run. Enjoy it.

• 21:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 21:41Speaker 03

  We're validating everything he says. I remember, who's that guy? He was Sid Vicious in Sid and Nancy, but he was in a Playboy interview. A British guy. And he was like, you know, if I said that the Jews control Hollywood, I'll be forced to apologize the next day. He was severely canceled the next day and forced to apologize to the ADL. Okay, well, you just proved his fucking point, guys. Chill out. Meanwhile, as a white man, we are defecated upon every day, and we just go, meh. As dads, we're defecated upon every day. We go, meh.

• 22:20Danny Jones?

  Where do you live right now?

• 22:22Speaker 03

  In Westchester, a suburb of New York about forty minutes.

• 22:26Danny Jones?

  You lived in New York for how long?

• 22:26Speaker 03

  Twenty years.

• 22:27Danny Jones?

  For twenty years?

• 22:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:29Danny Jones?

  I wonder if that's, like, why do you feel like that? You feel like you're the white man, the white Christian man is being shit on?

• 22:35Speaker 03

  Wait, so, hold on. You start this whole thing about how the Holocaust didn't happen.

• 22:39Danny Jones?

  I didn't say the Holocaust didn't happen. I was telling you about Mr. Death.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  You're a super right-wing dude, and now you're like, why are you so obsessed with white dudes?

• 22:46Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 22:46Speaker 03

  Are you like a...

• 22:47Danny Jones?

  I'm curious.

• 22:47Speaker 03

  Are you like a left-wing anti-Semite?

• 22:52Speaker 03

  No, I'm not an ITI semi- Where do I peg you?

• 22:56Speaker 03

  I don't think you can argue that if you watch commercials that white, Christian, heterosexual males are the whipping post of modern- No, I don't, I don't see that. Maybe it's because I live in Florida- Are you doing it like a character? No, are you doing a character? No. You're the guy- Pull up a, dude, go to live TV right now- I don't watch live TV, maybe that's why- And there'll be some buffoon, white guy trying to assemble an Ikea table- Didn't Trump- While a black woman is like, "Okay." Didn't Trump just put somebody in his cabinet that's like in charge of like bolstering Christianity in America? Yeah, an hour ago.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  That's my count- This was like at least a month and a half ago- Oh, I'm sorry, a month and a half ago. Isn't that good for white, Christian people? No, it's that bad. I think that, here's the analogy I always use. In my home, in my homestead- Yes. I don't even know what that word means. Does that mean like a commune in your own house? I don't know what homestead means. Um, if my children were to fart on my wife- Uh-huh. They'd be in big trouble. Uh-huh. You don't fart on mom. Right. Uh, if you fart on me, it's funny. Right. Uh, you got me. That was super stinky, don't, oh geez, ah. Yeah. Because I can take it. Mm-hmm. My wife is the woman of the house and she's, I don't know, she's not tough.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  So, you can't punch her. You can punch me, we can do a thing. You punch me three times, I'll punch you once. Right, right. My wife would never sit there with our kids being like, "Okay, you punch me three times, I'll punch you once." Right. So, I think that's indicative of a patriarchy and it's indicative of, of modern society where I think we're buttholes on all commercials and in geopolitics and everything else because we can take it. And we're like, "Okay, yeah, yeah, I get it." And here's, I'm off on a tangent now, but here's something I've noticed with comedy. They want to be controversial. They can't be racist, they can't mock Judaism, they can't mock Islam, they can sort of mock Christianity, but nah, it's bad for business.

• 25:00Speaker 03

  So, they tend to make really inappropriate, uh, child's jokes.

• 25:06Speaker 03

  Which I'm fine with if that's your thing, you're like the controversial show. But you gotta spread it out with like racism and other very controversial things. But if you watch like SNL, the only time they get dangerous is like an incestuous mother who's in love with her 20 year old son. And it ends up being this imbalance where kids are the only people we can with. And that's gross. If you're gonna do controversial comedy, you gotta spread the diarrhea around.

• 25:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 25:41Speaker 03

  On every religious group, old people, ageism, sexism, homophobia, like you gotta spread it all around. But the way it's going these days is it's just like, oh, what a kid. Which, okay.

• 25:52Danny Jones?

  Really? I've never seen any comedy like that.

• 25:55Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:56Danny Jones?

  I mean, I haven't been around comedy as long as you have, but I've watched a lot of comedy specials, been to a lot of comedy shows, but like.

• 26:01Speaker 03

  Here's an example, SNL had this like quizzie game show, I'm sure you could find. And it was like the newlyweds game type of show.

• 26:09Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 26:10Speaker 03

  And it's, that was big in the eighties, like, what's the craziest place you and your husband ever made whoopee? They called it whoopee back then. And one of the women was like, in the bum? And everyone's like, what the, we met at crazy location, bitch. So they were kind of parroting that. And it was, the couples were all weird, but they were, you know, normal. And then one of the couples was a mother and her son. And her son was like, I don't know, 19 in the sketch. Very gross, very weird, but you're like, okay, I'm watching the gross weird comedy show. I can handle that. But the next joke better be the most racist shit I've ever seen. And the next joke better be the most anti-Semitic shit I've ever seen, but they're too scared of those.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  So now when you see controversial comedy, it's just like kid shit. Which is disgusting. Out of context.

• 27:04Danny Jones?

  Why do you think that is?

• 27:06Speaker 03

  Cause kids can't fight back.

• 27:08Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Yeah. If you make fun of Jews, you're gonna get the ADL and the [BLEEP] and SBLC. You make fun of Muslims, you're gonna get the Muslim Brotherhood. Make fun of blacks, you're gonna get BLM. There's gonna be riots in the street. Everyone's gonna get fired. Make fun of kids, they're at school. They just suffer. And that's the sign of a declining society. When you prey on the weak. So what seems like a throwaway joke is actually a harbinger of the apocalypse.

• 27:39Danny Jones?

  At what point did you transition from male to female?

• 27:46Speaker 03

  I told you that was a secret. I asked you not to bring it up on the show.

• 27:49Danny Jones?

  I'm sorry. Well.

• 27:50Speaker 03

  And you betrayed us and you betrayed our NDA.

• 27:53Danny Jones?

  Yes. What I was gonna ask was, at what point did you transition into this guy, this clean cut guy with the mustache and the combed hair?

• 28:04Danny Jones?

  That talks about all this stuff all the time. I mean, I like.

• 28:08Speaker 03

  I never changed.

• 28:09Danny Jones?

  You never changed.

• 28:10Speaker 03

  I never changed.

• 28:11Danny Jones?

  Let me kinda give some context. I watched the Thomas Morton documentary that he made. And it was [BLEEP] fascinating. I don't, I don't wanna like say that, I, I thought what he did was.

• 28:20Speaker 03

  That thought, I gotta piss. Really broke the seal hard.

• 28:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah, you did. We gotta get you a bucket to sit next to you.

• 28:26Speaker 03

  If you wanna get like five solo cups, I'm fine with that too.

• 28:29Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 28:30Speaker 03

  So you saw, uh, It's Not Funny Anymore?

• 28:32Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I watched the documentary. I had to get a VPN and like go like sign up for their, this weird platform and I had to lie about my address being in Canada, but I was able to watch it.

• 28:41Speaker 03

  Are you Canadian?

• 28:42Danny Jones?

  No.

• 28:42Speaker 03

  Oh, right. Dumb question.

• 28:46Danny Jones?

  Oh, that's cool. You still got your, uh, your vice ring.

• 28:49Speaker 03

  No, I don't.

• 28:50Danny Jones?

  Does it not say vice on it?

• 28:51Speaker 03

  Says hate.

• 28:52Danny Jones?

  Hate? Wow! It's the same style as the vice rings.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, that was my idea. That was my shit with rings. I get fights in New York and brass knuckles send you to jail and I didn't have my citizenship then. I was worried about being deported. If you wear rings, you can fight all night.

• 29:09Danny Jones?

  And but that's an excuse.

• 29:10Speaker 03

  And if you get these Puerto Rican style things with the hard edges, you're gonna rip someone's face apart.

• 29:14Danny Jones?

  Oh yeah, that would not be good.

• 29:15Speaker 03

  I'm actually not supposed to say that on air.

• 29:17Danny Jones?

  Oh.

• 29:18Speaker 03

  Because they could say you knew that those rings would do damage.

• 29:21Danny Jones?

  Hmm. But do you want me to remove it or can I keep it in? Alright, cool. Um, but it seems like, like he went and he interviewed all of your friends, all of your like childhood friends.

• 29:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:32Danny Jones?

  Uh, all these former people that worked at Vice. I mean, I mean, no one really had anything really bad to say.

• 29:37Speaker 03

  Right, cuz I am a good guy.

• 29:38Danny Jones?

  Right. They, they were all just kind of fascinated by your, this evolution of you going from like the early crazy guy Vice days, swinging your around the office and doing coke to like this crazy right wing racist crowd guy.

• 29:54Speaker 03

  They weren't fascinated by that. Anyone who knows me knows that wasn't a change. This is the problem with these, like, when, when he did that documentary, he showed me these cards and he was like,

• 30:04Danny Jones?

  I saw that, yeah.

• 30:05Speaker 03

  Why did you become a Nazi? Were you beaten? Did you fall down the stairs? Was, was, did you read, see some documentary? And I'm like, wait a minute, the problem is your hypothesis. It's like me doing a documentary on why you became gay.

• 30:19Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 30:20Speaker 03

  And I'm like, what happened? And I have all these theories, like you saw a musical, you got involved in ballet, you listened to disco. And you're like, these are all great theories. I'm not gay. So when he showed me all those, I go, dude, I thought you had a high IQ. This is, your hypothesis is wrong.

• 30:37Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  And the media's perception is that I went right, but the thing you gotta understand about pre-Trump hipster America, like, for lack of a better word, cool culture is.

• 30:49Danny Jones?

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• 31:33Danny Jones?

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• 32:08Speaker 03

  We all had that shit going on, like Amphetamine Reptile Records, Tom Hazelmeier. He named his daughter Reagan and we're like, oh, that's the right-wing guy. Johnny Ramone said, "Kill a commie for mommy." You know, Fear had a big, like, American eagle on their records.

• 32:28Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:29Speaker 03

  Gangrene were all about Budweiser.

• 32:34Danny Jones?

  No, like-

• 32:34Speaker 03

  The Meat Men.

• 32:35Danny Jones?

  The early punk people were like liberals.

• 32:37Speaker 03

  And this is 80s, like-

• 32:38Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  The Meat Men were like, "I'm glad I'm not a girl. They have to sit down to pee." The Forgotten Rebels, "Bomb the boats, feed the fish." Now, obviously punk was definitely left-leaning, but there was a- You could be weird and controversial and nothing. I used to wear a shirt that said, "Speak English," and it had a little American flag there. And I would hang out with David Cross and like all these- Patton Oswalt and John Benjamin and Todd Barry. And they were all like, "Oh, that's Gavin and his kooky..." I just screwdriver belt buckle. And David Cross would say, where'd you get that? Like, he wanted one. Now, I'm obviously not a fan of Screwdriver, but it was just like, it was sort of like the punks in the 70s having swastikas.

• 33:23Speaker 03

  Or Gigi Allen or something.

• 33:25Danny Jones?

  I don't think anybody listening to this will even know anything about Screwdriver, which is funny.

• 33:28Speaker 03

  They were a super offensive, like, white power Nazi band. So you're just like... I got something to say. For example, Robert Crumb, he did this comic called, and you could, I'll censor myself, but when the fucking ends take over the world. And he did another

• 33:48Speaker 03

  three-page comic called, When the God and Jays Take Over the World. And they were both, one was a parody of racism, the other was a parody of antisemitism. But there was a picture of like, these blacks that he drew. And it's like, you see these ends? They fucking hate you. So I put that on a t-shirt with Screwdriver on it.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  And it was like, like, the most offensive shit you could have. And it's obviously not serious, right? And then with Trump, the nuance was gone. And there was no, there was no way to joke around anymore. And they kicked us out of culture. The nuanced right was kicked out of culture in 2015.

• 34:32Speaker 03

  And when I say the nuanced right, I mean, anyone who would dare even look into that shit. Uh, we weren't def, like, it's not like we were real Rush Limbaugh, Pappy Cannon guys, but we were interested in Rush Limbaugh and Pappy Cannon, let's check it out. And there was a whole, there was a, there was a spectrum. That's, that's what I should say, the spectrum died with Trump. And they were like, you're 100% with us, 100% against us. All of you fuck you. And it was such a weird time, like, like, this dude, John Glazer. We were best friends, uh, not best friends, but our families would go on vacation together. He's a comedy writer guy. And our thing, me and him, was women are inept at loading the dishwasher. It's mind-blowing. Every time I load the dishwasher, it looks like a commercial for dishwashers.

• 35:20Speaker 03

  Bowls, plates. And I look at my wife and she's just like plopping a bowl upright, like on the top shelf. Honey, that's just gonna load with water. It's not getting washed. Really? Yeah. You've never seen a woman load a dishwasher? My wife loads a dishwasher great. You're wrong. I'm not wrong. She does. Then she's a dude. My problem- Have you seen her genitalia? My problem with the dishwasher is it doesn't clean shit. Yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent. And that, it takes, my dishwasher is two hours. Really? Yes. It's two hours because of Biden is, not Biden just, but like this modern shit with like eco stuff. I have an eighties house and I have a bar in the basement. The dishwasher is from the eighties.

• 36:05Speaker 03

  Dude, you could put, I don't know, King Tut's fucking, you could put his coffin in there and it would come out sparkling bright. Because they boil up the water. Anyway, we're off on a tangent here, but anyway, I would get back and forth with John about dishwasher shit. You know how you have certain friends, like Lily Gaddis on our site? We send each other pictures of people at airports wearing pajamas and Crocs. That's our entire text. There's no other discussion. You know how you lock in with someone and you're like, that's my guy? Like you have a friend in Ireland and you're like, Ireland had another African kill an old couple and you don't send him anything like, I'm feeling upset, but I don't feel like my wife loves me anymore. That's a different text chain. Yeah.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  So John sent me a text that was like, hey, man, I think you know, you knew this was coming. But obviously I have an awesome dishwasher picture to send you. But I, I can't because you know what's coming. And I'm like, what's coming? And he goes, Trump. Because he knew I supported Trump. And 2015, 2016 was this crazy split that was unprecedented.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  Like, when we were kids, when I was a kid in the seventies, you had no fucking clue who your neighbor voted for. Right. And then all of a sudden, it was hundred percent with us, hundred percent against us. Yeah. And, uh, and then they had to explain why Gavin is no longer our friend. And I'm not the only Gavin, by the way, there's probably fifty million, no, there's probably a hundred and fifty million Gavins in this analogy. But they go, uh, yeah, he, uh, he joined the Nazi cult, he's a racist. And then instead of going, really? Aren't his kids like Native American? They go, no, let's find out why he's a racist. And Thomas Sowell talked about this, he goes, you can go from a liberal to a conservative

• 38:01Speaker 03

  without changing your views when the media's narrative shifts. Yes. And I'm a socially liberal, fiscally conservative libertarian for strong borders. That was Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton in two thousand four. Yeah, yeah. That was Barack Obama in two thousand four. It's also normal Archie Bunker dad politics. Yeah. Like, do you want your dad to be pro-trans? Hmm. That's gay. That is pretty gay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Imagine your dad was like, don't hurt trans kids. What's that quote, I think I heard you say this quote, uh, which I love, it said, if you're not a liberal, I'm gonna butcher it, you can probably say it better, if you're not a liberal when you're young. Churchill pushed it a lot, I don't know if he meant it, if you're not, if you're

• 38:43Speaker 03

  not a conserva, no, if you're not a liberal, I think he said socialist, if you're not a socialist when you're young, you have no heart. Right. And if you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain. Hmm. I mean, a conservative is just a liberal who got mugged. And if you ever make, start making money, which I assume you are, this Escape from New York set. Yeah. You've gotta be a conservative, cuz you can get your check and you see how much the government took and you go, what the fuck? Right. And then you go, okay, well, the roads are gonna be like a skate park when I go outside. No, the roads in Iraq. Oh, the education is gonna be mind blowing. My kids are gonna be Benjamin Franklin. No, your kids don't know who Benjamin Franklin is.

• 39:26Speaker 03

  They're reading a George Takei graphic novel about internment camps. Okay, well, what am I getting for my fucking money? Pete Buttigieg blowing up train tracks?

• 39:38Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 39:38Speaker 03

  With toxic chemicals?

• 39:39Danny Jones?

  CIA operations in the Ukraine?

• 39:41Speaker 03

  I I'm okay to, I'm open to socialism. If the money goes where I want it to go.

• 39:47Danny Jones?

  If you could pick where your taxes go.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Like they always brag about Northern Europe. I I might be a socialist in Finland. I was in Boston recently and I'd never, I hadn't been there in years. And I was at a bar and everyone was white and everything was organized. There was no skulls. There's no crackheads around. And I go, oh, I get why they're so left wing up here. Because they don't see the scammers and the junkies and the EBT cards at strip clubs and the constant

• 40:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  Violence against police.

• 40:16Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  So they're like, we need to be more generous.

• 40:19Danny Jones?

  Hmm. Yeah, it's like that in Denmark too. Where they're like, I think even the women and the maternity leave in Denmark is like a year and a half or something insane.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  Sounds great.

• 40:29Danny Jones?

  And they pay, and they pay them, I think they pay moms, like if you have a kid, they just like pay you like an extra five grand a month. It's ridiculous.

• 40:35Speaker 03

  I hate that shit too, cuz you're comparing apples and oranges. Like, America has, it had thirty million illegals before Biden. I think it has forty now. Right?

• 40:47Danny Jones?

  You're probably right about that.

• 40:49Speaker 03

  He let in twelve million, more than Ellis Island in its total eighty year history. We also have this insane, very unique obesity problem.

• 40:58Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 40:59Speaker 03

  Where you go-

• 41:00Danny Jones?

  All the poor people are obese. Isn't that strange?

• 41:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, our poor eat too much, as John Stansel said. That's our biggest problem is our poor eat too much.

• 41:05Danny Jones?

  And they eat garbage.

• 41:06Speaker 03

  You go to Disneyland and it's just spheres everywhere, human spheres. So-

• 41:12Danny Jones?

  Driving around in those little carts.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  Dude, talk to a surgeon, man. They don't know what to do with these fucking pigs. Like-

• 41:21Speaker 03

  My dad, my dad is a drunk and he was like fixing some branch at like three in the morning with a chainsaw and he is like, this is dangerous, so I'll put on three hats. Right. Because there's nothing safer than three wool hats. And I'll put on two jackets in case I get hit. So he was like tying up branches. And he actually ended up making a Gavin's dad killing machine where when he finally released the branches, it went whack and it sent him flying through the air and his ladder. He landed, he broke his back in fifteen places. Jesus Christ. Yeah, it was rough. You wore a turtle shell for like a year, but they went in there, they fixed them all with pins. Yeah. And the surgeon goes, I gotta say, man, my dad's skinny because drunks don't eat. Because what don't eat?

• 42:06Speaker 03

  Drunks don't eat. In fact, they starve to death, but we still, we try to get them Chinese food. What's the difference between a drunk and alcoholic? Great question. I think it's. I think drunks are funny. Alcoholics are sad. Right. An alcoholic is like at the bar at nine. A drunk is at the bar at three. Right. And usually the drunks don't go to meetings either. No. So the surgeon goes, I gotta say, man, this is what we went to medical school for. Like you cut open the skin and the spine's right there. These tubs of shit, you cut open the belly and it just goes. And so you fix what you gotta fix. You have all this yellow fat. You close it, there's this

• 42:52Speaker 03

  vacuum trying to open it back up again. So they, they rip the sutures up constantly. Yeah, yeah. Because there's this like opening here. You can't stitch fat. Right. So don't tell me about Denmark. Don't tell me about Medicare. Don't tell me about even England where there's still plenty of fatties. We are unlike any other country in the world. We were built on guns and violence. We took over the the most powerful, you know, empire in the world at the time. And you're like, well, actually in Finland, you know, they get paid into oranges. Okay, that sounds nice.

• 43:31Speaker 03

  We're not doing that here. Actually, there's a train in Beijing that can get you to Shanghai in an hour. Okay, we got cars here, dude. We're pioneers.

• 43:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I want to hear more about your Disney cruise.

• 43:44Speaker 03

  Where was that? Oh, my God, don't get me started.

• 43:46Danny Jones?

  What, did you see a lot of these fatties on your Disney cruise? And also, do the people, are you aware of like, there's these people that are influencers? And all they do is go to Disneyland and they teach you how to go to Disneyland?

• 43:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:58Danny Jones?

  And they're, they're full blown adults.

• 44:00Speaker 03

  I saw a video an hour ago about some new park, Epic Universal or something. And there's all these adults, like 40 years old, running and screaming. It's because, okay, just to go back a little bit.

• 44:13Speaker 03

  Harris, what's his name on Infowars was talking about this. Asians, liberal women, blacks, gays. If we only let them vote, everything would be blue. The only place that would turn America red is white males. So let's make everything against white males. And part of that is, don't breed. And when they say, don't breed, blacks and Hispanics don't listen to that, right? So when you say, don't breed, white women hear it and they're like, okay, done. So you have this paternal instinct. So you like, you become a fur mom and you, you adopt rescues. But you also become obsessed with Disney. Cause it's like a fake mommy thing. Where, I don't know, your husband's your baby. I don't know who the kid is in this scenario, but it's you are.

• 44:57Speaker 03

  So it's a disgusting, sad culture that's pathetic and embarrassing. It's why I started the Proud Boys, actually.

• 45:03Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 45:03Speaker 03

  Because our producer, your guy, was 23, a virgin. He went to Disneyland with his friends, didn't get wasted and didn't anyone. And I'm like, I'm okay going to Disneyland if you're in the butthole surfers and you guys do LSD. And it's ironic, but this was not ironic. So anyway, um, my Disney story is, uh, yes, tons of fatties on the cruise.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  The thing about cruise people is they're not adventurous. You'll have to stop me because I have nine hours on Disney cruises. Oh, really? Okay. But they're on these like rascals.

• 45:43Speaker 03

  There's a, in one part of the hallway, there's like a chart that shows you where you are on the cruise. The fatties, that's their elephant's graveyard. They pilgrimage over there.

• 45:55Speaker 03

  And then they just look at the chart of where they are. You know, when you're on a plane, you can see where the plane is. Yeah. You look at it for like four seconds. Okay, we're near Ireland. Anyway, back to my movie. They're just like.

• 46:10Speaker 03

  That's so. Insane. Yeah, it's a, it's a floating shopping mall. And you got to understand, like, travel is semi-adventurous. Right. If you're on a cruise, you're not an adventurous person. So you're not social. So at one point, I'm, the, the, the lawn chairs are all touching. So I'm about to get in bed with two men. Like, our shoulders might even physically touch. So I gotta say something. And I throw up my towel. I don't even know why I'm doing this. And I'm like, alrighty, here we go. And the guys don't go like, getting kind of too close for comfort, or it's some little dumb joke, or come on in, the water's fine, or some dumb. Yeah. They don't do quips. Yeah, break the ice. They just stay like this.

• 46:54Speaker 03

  Like I had facial tattoos.

• 46:57Speaker 03

  And I do have a lot of tattoos. So, okay, let's take me out of the equation. So my wife's at the bar and this woman's getting a drink. And it's like three o'clock and, uh, she goes, I'll get a margarita. And my wife's behind her and we're trying to socialize a little bit. My, I didn't have my third kid. I had a four-year-old and a two-year-old. So she gets some margarita and then my wife does super generic social shit. Where she goes, uh, it's five o'clock somewhere. And the woman goes like, put the camera on me. The woman goes.

• 47:31Speaker 03

  Like, I'm like, did we Mickey Mouse and I wasn't told about it? Brutal. And the cabin is, you're in an ocean.

• 47:45Speaker 03

  All night.

• 47:46Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 47:47Speaker 03

  The only way I could sleep is I pretended I was a billionaire and I was on my own private jet. Where, yeah, it's pretty loud. I'm going over Dubai.

• 47:54Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 47:55Speaker 03

  So the only people I could talk to were the staff. So that's why I feel so comfortable here, because I was in the gallows. Because my wife goes to bed early. She's a, she's a squaw, doesn't drink.

• 48:06Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  But, uh, so like nine o'clock, I have no one to hang out with. And the nerd Gen Xers are, I don't know, playing shuffleboard and drinking pina coladas. So I just hung out with the staff the whole time.

• 48:19Danny Jones?

  That's so funny.

• 48:20Speaker 03

  And do not go on a cruise.

• 48:23Danny Jones?

  No, cruises suck balls. The, you don't want to go, you don't want to travel or go anywhere. Like the, the best part about traveling is getting in weird situations where you might die.

• 48:33Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 48:34Danny Jones?

  I think.

• 48:35Speaker 03

  And even with a family, the best part of traveling is like finding a weird place. Like in St. Martin, there's this beach, it's all French people. And they serve like cheeseburgers and beer and the kids can play on the beach and

• 48:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 48:47Speaker 03

  no one knows about it. And that's your little, you know, your hidden spot.

• 48:51Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 48:52Speaker 03

  That's fun.

• 48:52Danny Jones?

  Going somewhere in a car where you're driving on the wrong side of the road and you pull up to some weird cutout, beach cutout where there's a guy bellying cars here. You're not sure if he's gonna kill or mug you.

• 49:04Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 49:05Danny Jones?

  That's, that's the exciting part about travel. You're not gonna get that on a cruise ship.

• 49:09Speaker 03

  No.

• 49:09Danny Jones?

  Get your hair braided, maybe.

• 49:10Speaker 03

  If you go on a cruise ship, you're a loser. Sorry.

• 49:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 49:13Speaker 03

  It's a mall.

• 49:14Danny Jones?

  It is.

• 49:14Speaker 03

  And now it's a ghetto mall.

• 49:16Danny Jones?

  Hmm. Oh, really?

• 49:18Speaker 03

  So, yeah, they've gotten way worse. I think they got destroyed by COVID. They had to lower their prices and now it's just the hood. So don't do that.

• 49:27Danny Jones?

  Where did your cruise go? Like where was it? Where was it out of?

• 49:32Speaker 03

  Uh, it went through the Caribbean, you know, Tobago, St. Martin. We, we actually, we stopped at St. Martin and we went to some weird little like working class French shit hole with the cheeseburgers. And the beach went on for hours and I'm like, we have to get back on the cruise. So we like made a note and then we went on a vacation the next year and we just went there. St. Martin is awesome. I love St. Martin.

• 49:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  It's great.

• 49:56Danny Jones?

  St. Martin is.

• 49:57Speaker 03

  Jamaica is so dangerous that when you go somewhere, it's razor wired in and you're in like a little aquarium.

• 50:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 50:06Speaker 03

  But St. Martin is open.

• 50:07Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  It's, it's the best place in the Caribbean.

• 50:11Danny Jones?

  I used to do a ton of traveling through the Caribbean and all around like South America to film surfing.

• 50:17Speaker 03

  Oh, really? Do you surf?

• 50:18Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Well, not as much as I used to.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  Surfing is not possible.

• 50:22Danny Jones?

  It's not possible?

• 50:23Speaker 03

  It's a myth. I'm like a flat earther with surfing.

• 50:25Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 50:26Speaker 03

  It's, it's fake.

• 50:27Danny Jones?

  What do you mean by that?

• 50:28Speaker 03

  It can't, I tried it. It can't. Those guys must be CGI'd.

• 50:33Speaker 03

  Because you get out to the waves and by the time you get to the spot, your arms are Grover spaghetti.

• 50:40Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  And now you have to be stronger than ever.

• 50:43Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 50:43Speaker 03

  Cause you have to ride with the wave.

• 50:45Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 50:45Speaker 03

  I just, I'm toast. I just did 750 pushups.

• 50:48Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's fucking brutal.

• 50:49Speaker 03

  Those guys, what the fuck is going on?

• 50:52Danny Jones?

  It's insane. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a different kind of cardio that you build over a long period of time.

• 50:57Speaker 03

  Holy shit. It's like hockey.

• 50:58Danny Jones?

  It's fucking insane.

• 50:58Speaker 03

  You play for four minutes and you start puking your guts out.

• 51:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah. That's literally like, it's the most hardcore cardio you've ever done for like, you probably spend, if you go out surfing in like big waves for two, three hours, you're spending maybe 10 minutes out of that three hours surfing.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  They have no upper body strength. How do they get out there?

• 51:17Danny Jones?

  Women?

• 51:18Speaker 03

  A skit, a fucking jet ski?

• 51:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's weird.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Who brings them out there?

• 51:21Danny Jones?

  I've been like, go to Pipeline in Hawaii, which is like the most dangerous wave in the world and you're surfing over

• 51:26Speaker 03

  AI.

• 51:27Danny Jones?

  razor sharp reef that's like that far under the wave.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  It's not real.

• 51:31Danny Jones?

  And there's like eight year olds out there surfing that shit.

• 51:37Danny Jones?

  It's crazy.

• 51:38Speaker 03

  It's Grok. Grok made them.

• 51:40Danny Jones?

  Grok made them?

• 51:42Speaker 03

  It's not, it's not possible.

• 51:45Danny Jones?

  Um, and, uh, it's funny, one of the guys I used to film with, he, he's how I discovered Vice, because he got a job with Vice.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  What year was that?

• 51:53Danny Jones?

  God.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  You mean Jake?

• 51:55Danny Jones?

  No, Jerry.

• 51:56Speaker 03

  Ah shit.

• 51:57Danny Jones?

  Do you wanna know Jerry?

• 51:58Speaker 03

  No.

• 51:58Danny Jones?

  He was good friends with Jake.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  Oh, you know Jake?

• 52:01Danny Jones?

  I know, I don't know him personally, but I know who he is.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Great guy. You know what I love about Jake? And it's an inspiration for all dads everywhere. His dad was like a Jeff Spicoli guy. And, uh, he would go to his school and be like, oh, Jake's got a dentist appointment. And they're like, really? I don't have that on the files here. He's like, yeah, it's real bad. He's got like, cavities and shit. So I'd be like, Jake, your Jeff Spicoli dad is taking you to the dentist? And he'd be like, he knew what it was. And he'd get in the fucking truck, surfboards in the back. And him and his dad would just shred all day.

• 52:41Danny Jones?

  That's fucking awesome.

• 52:42Speaker 03

  And they're like, I wanna be like that. I wanna be like Jake's dad.

• 52:45Danny Jones?

  So Jerry, I think, I think went with Jake to North Korea to film that North Korea thing. And a bunch of their stuff.

• 52:50Speaker 03

  That bullshit thing.

• 52:51Danny Jones?

  Jerry filmed the whole noisy, uh, I don't know, I don't know how much you followed it after you left. But that was all after you left. I discovered it after I think you left. You left in like 2008?

• 52:58Speaker 03

  2008. North Korea was like around my time.

• 53:01Danny Jones?

  That was around your time?

• 53:01Speaker 03

  Yeah. Heard some very dubious things about that. Like, you gotta understand, you can't bribe your way into North Korea. It's not like Morocco.

• 53:10Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 53:10Speaker 03

  So if you, if you filmed anything in North Korea, you were allowed to film it. There's no like, there's no way to do North Korea edgy. It's like doing a Soviet Union edgy in fucking 1985. Like, it's just, it's, that's not what happened. And there's no hidden camera shit.

• 53:29Danny Jones?

  But they, so they got in there with Dennis Rodman. He got him in, right?

• 53:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was all fake too. Like that, not fake, but that was all sanctioned, I should say.

• 53:37Danny Jones?

  Right. They were like, uh, Dennis was like their tour guide and they gave him a tour through.

• 53:41Speaker 03

  Well, they'd already been, I think. Uh, so it was the second time was with Dennis Rodman.

• 53:46Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 53:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, that intellectual Dennis Rodman.

• 53:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 53:51Danny Jones?

  He's a funny guy.

• 53:53Speaker 03

  I don't know. They they really botched that, I think.

• 53:55Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 53:55Speaker 03

  Far as I'm concerned, yeah.

• 53:56Danny Jones?

  Do you think, how long do you think it took for Vice to start going downhill after you left?

• 54:01Speaker 03

  Well, here's the beauty of that. I want the narrative to be they got rid of Gavin and they went bankrupt.

• 54:08Danny Jones?

  But it was the opposite.

• 54:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, but here's the thing. The way history is written. They did insanely good for 15 years. But over time, that 15 years is going to compress.

• 54:23Speaker 03

  And it'll be like, God were to give, and they went broke.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  Not true, but that's the way history works these days. So I think they were really good after I left. For at least five years, which I did not like.

• 54:39Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 54:39Speaker 03

  That made me very upset.

• 54:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 54:41Speaker 03

  I wanted them to bomb the next day. But it is, it's also not what I'm interested in. I can hate traveling. I'm a Western chauvinist.

• 54:47Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 54:48Speaker 03

  I hate.

• 54:49Danny Jones?

  Didn't you live in Thailand?

• 54:50Speaker 03

  I lived in Taiwan.

• 54:51Danny Jones?

  Taiwan.

• 54:52Speaker 03

  And I can hate China. I hate Taiwan. I hate, I hate Eastern culture. I hate them all. Them all.

• 54:59Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 55:00Speaker 03

  Like deeply, I deeply hate them.

• 55:03Danny Jones?

  Why so deep of a hatred?

• 55:04Speaker 03

  They're just not us.

• 55:05Danny Jones?

  Did that develop when you were living in Taiwan?

• 55:08Speaker 03

  Sure, maybe, yeah.

• 55:10Danny Jones?

  Sure.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  Here's my new thing. This is a new thing I have this week.

• 55:13Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  I hate closeted.

• 55:17Danny Jones?

  Why do you hate closeted?

• 55:18Speaker 03

  It's 2025. Why are you lying? It's like lying about being circumcised at this point. Like, why are you wasting my fucking time? My uncle was a closeted who died in the closet. And I realized I never really knew him. Like, he would be very gregarious when he was drunk. But outside of that, he'd be like Shrek in the straight guy. And I'm like, okay, well, I never got to know you, face. And I used to spend the summers in Scotland, so like, we had thousands of hours just flushed down the toilet because you were scared to be gay. And I totally get being scared to be gay in the 50s. Gotcha. 80s, 90s, 2000s?

• 55:53Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 55:54Speaker 03

  Fuck off. Fuck off.

• 55:56Danny Jones?

  You don't have to be scared to be gay now, nowadays.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  You had to be scared to be not be gay if you're in school.

• 56:02Speaker 03

  If you're 11 and you're like, I think I like girls. You're gonna go through conversion therapy.

• 56:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah, not in Florida, maybe in New York.

• 56:08Speaker 03

  We'll show you pictures of, it's okay, I tell you, I tell you like it. So, yeah, duplicitous people piss me off.

• 56:16Danny Jones?

  It's not like that down here.

• 56:18Speaker 03

  I, that's why I'm a western chauvinist, because western culture is like, especially like northeast American culture is like, what the fuck's on your face?

• 56:26Danny Jones?

  On my face?

• 56:27Speaker 03

  No, no, that's how they talk. Say you had a big wart there?

• 56:29Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:30Speaker 03

  It'd be like, dude, what? Can you not like freeze that or what is that? Like, put a dental floss around it and it'll fall off or something. Like, we say what's on our mind. And, you know, Europeans aren't really like that, but eastern people are just not like that. And I, I hate it.

• 56:45Danny Jones?

  Well, that's more like New York culture. It's not really like all of America, right? Like, the west coast, they're like, they're weird, disingenuous, all about being-

• 56:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's a bastardized version of us. I don't know what happened there.

• 56:56Danny Jones?

  New York is more like, we can make fun of anybody. We'll shit on you and laugh at it.

• 57:00Speaker 03

  Right, like Joe Rogan says, it's, it's like women and men. Men will talk shit about you to your face, then behind your back say you're the greatest guy that ever lived.

• 57:08Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 57:08Speaker 03

  Women will, uh, flatter you to your face and then talk shit about you behind your back.

• 57:13Danny Jones?

  Right, yeah.

• 57:13Speaker 03

  That woman culture is eastern culture. It's Asian culture. It's, I don't know about Russian culture, but it's like, all other cultures. And I, I was, like, I saw this woman in Taipei when I lived there, and she just got fucking railed by a car.

• 57:27Danny Jones?

  Hey, guys, if you're not already subscribed, please hammer the subscribe button below and hit the like button on the video. Back to the show.

• 57:33Speaker 03

  And she was bleeding like a stuck pig.

• 57:35Danny Jones?

  Oh, God.

• 57:36Speaker 03

  But they don't show emotion in Asian culture. And Taipei is Taiwan. It's capitalist. China is communist, but they act the same. Just one group has more money. They're still the same people. And she's standing there waiting for the ambulance. Blood is gushing out of her leg and she's just like-

• 57:53Speaker 03

  And I'm like, go owl.

• 57:55Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 57:56Speaker 03

  Say owl.

• 57:57Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 57:58Speaker 03

  Your knee's falling off.

• 57:59Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 58:01Speaker 03

  But they don't, they, they have, they, they call it honor, but it's just like dis- dishonesty, really.

• 58:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Well, what about the guy fucking lit himself on fire during the Vietnam War and just sat there and didn't even fucking blink?

• 58:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:11Danny Jones?

  That's the epitome of that, right? Like.

• 58:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:14Danny Jones?

  You don't like.

• 58:14Speaker 03

  We're doing that now.

• 58:15Danny Jones?

  You wanted that guy to be screaming.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  Ah! Yeah. But we have that now. We're that, we're, we're taking on eastern culture. How many burners have we had this year? We had the dude in front of Trump's trial who lit himself on fire. We had the guy in front of the Israeli embassy who said, free Palestine, lit himself on fire, and then all the lefties were like, you're a white dude. And I'm like, they don't like you, man.

• 58:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 58:40Speaker 03

  You burned yourself alive and they're all like, you don't have the right to fucking co-opt our revolution. Imagine you light yourself on fire and you go to heaven or hell, I guess, and people are like, nope. Sorry, whitey. Not on my watch. And you're like, I thought that was pretty good. Lighting myself on fire. I guess I didn't make the cuts.

• 59:01Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 59:02Speaker 03

  Okay, sorry.

• 59:03Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 59:04Speaker 03

  What should I do next time? Light my whole family on fire?

• 59:07Danny Jones?

  What specifically were you doing in Taiwan? Why were you living there?

• 59:12Speaker 03

  So when I graduated high, uh, college, which was a dumb waste of time, um, there were no jobs. And I'd been a bike messenger in Montreal, which was, I'd rather French kiss my dad than do that again. That was fucking. Imagine the winters in Montreal on a mountain bike?

• 59:32Danny Jones?

  No, I can't.

• 59:32Speaker 03

  Going through the snow at five in the morning.

• 59:34Danny Jones?

  No, fuck no.

• 59:35Speaker 03

  Um, so you could make 20 bucks an hour back then, teaching English. Minimum wage was five bucks an hour. So you could make fucking bank and you go there and Chinese people just come up to you and they're like, you'll be at a fucking drugstore buying toothpaste and like, can I talk to you, please? And they give you your address, their address, and you'd set up appointments. So I had a whole schedule of these people and I came back with like 10 grand.

• 1:00:06Danny Jones?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:00:07Speaker 03

  Which it doesn't sound like a lot now, but when you're 22, uh, I was a fucking billionaire. And I was there for about six months.

• 1:00:17Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  You know what's weird? I could not get Asian pussy to save my life.

• 1:00:22Danny Jones?

  How old were you?

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  Twenty-one.

• 1:00:25Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:00:26Speaker 03

  The facial hair. And I need facial hair because I don't have a chin. So I make a fake chin out of hair. It's a Potemkin village of chin.

• 1:00:34Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:00:34Speaker 03

  Um, but Asians hate hair. They're freaked out by it. But.

• 1:00:39Danny Jones?

  So you didn't get any Asian pussy when you were there?

• 1:00:41Speaker 03

  Zero. But I had my pick of the whites. Because the white guys, the white, there was three. I fucked them all.

• 1:00:49Danny Jones?

  Fucked them all. The whole population.

• 1:00:52Speaker 03

  Dude, I fucked this one girl who would get goose pimples when she came.

• 1:00:55Danny Jones?

  Goose pimples. Oh, wow.

• 1:00:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I haven't experienced that before since.

• 1:00:58Danny Jones?

  I've experienced that before.

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  I, I used to, I had a saying, fucking Chinese. Every time something went wrong or some bullshit with them. And she dumped me for being racist. And I'm like, I, you know, they say white, uh, black people can't be racist because they're a minority.

• 1:01:13Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:01:13Speaker 03

  I was a minority. Can I say fucking Chinese in China? And I believe Taiwan's in China. Um, but yeah, I did very well with white pussy there, but yeah, could not fucking slay any yellow.

• 1:01:27Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:01:30Danny Jones?

  What a crime. And the whole thing with vice, so when, in two thousand eight, I believe it was, that is when, oh, these are great. I'm gonna have one too. Um, the whole thing in two thousand eight.

• 1:01:39Speaker 03

  Calm energy.

• 1:01:40Danny Jones?

  You're magic.

• 1:01:41Speaker 03

  That'd be funny if it was just.

• 1:01:42Danny Jones?

  It's a brain stimulation.

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  If it was just Xanax and Adderall in, in green water, they get busted three years later, massive scandal.

• 1:01:49Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:01:51Danny Jones?

  It's definitely not a fucking Adderall.

• 1:01:55Danny Jones?

  Uh, have you done a podcast on Adderall? It's the worst experience ever.

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Uh, I wouldn't know what that's like. Anyway, next question.

• 1:02:06Speaker 03

  The guy probably sounded like a freak.

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  Anyway, so many questions. Why don't we try to narrow it down?

• 1:02:13Speaker 03

  Anyway, what's this?

• 1:02:17Danny Jones?

  Are you an Adderall right now?

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:02:18Danny Jones?

  Can I get another beer?

• 1:02:21Danny Jones?

  I was debating on eating one today.

• 1:02:22Speaker 03

  Dude, I walked in, I won't give away your location.

• 1:02:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:25Speaker 03

  But I walked into a bar this morning at 11 a.m.

• 1:02:28Danny Jones?

  That one right there?

• 1:02:29Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:02:29Danny Jones?

  That's a great bar.

• 1:02:30Speaker 03

  And they go, you want a shot? As I walk in.

• 1:02:35Danny Jones?

  They just looked at you and thought you would need a shot.

• 1:02:37Speaker 03

  Well, apparently it was the, uh, tequila, uh, reps. We're in town and they buy a bottle and then they give everyone free shots.

• 1:02:45Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:02:46Speaker 03

  I, uh. It's a great bar, by the way.

• 1:02:48Danny Jones?

  It is a great bar.

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  Their food's.

• 1:02:49Danny Jones?

  My buddy's local. Their, their, um, their food is surprisingly good too, which is weird. I bet you their kitchen is fucking nasty.

• 1:02:56Speaker 03

  Food is a fed.

• 1:02:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:58Speaker 03

  Food and sleep is for queers.

• 1:02:59Danny Jones?

  I fucking slept maybe two hours last night.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 1:03:03Danny Jones?

  And I woke up this morning feeling like I got ran over and by a truck and then dragged 20 miles. And I was debating on fucking, I had my buddy up and I was like, yo, I might need to get an Adderall. You got an Adderall for me? I drove and met him and he gave me an Adderall and I was like. I had it and I was looking at it, I'm like. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna fucking do it.

• 1:03:22Speaker 03

  You just never do a whole Adderall.

• 1:03:23Danny Jones?

  Turns me into a fucking, uh, emotionless robot.

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:28Danny Jones?

  You know?

• 1:03:29Speaker 03

  I took, you know, HRT, whatever it's called, where your body produces more testosterone?

• 1:03:34Danny Jones?

  Oh, testosterone, yeah, yeah. People inject themselves with testosterone.

• 1:03:37Speaker 03

  Right, but it's not that. It's, it's not you putting in testosterone, it's you telling your body to make more. I was too much of a pussy to go full testosterone. So it's.

• 1:03:47Danny Jones?

  Oh, so you're doing like, like naturally boosting your own testosterone?

• 1:03:50Speaker 03

  Is that what it is?

• 1:03:51Danny Jones?

  Hormone replacement therapy is.

• 1:03:53Speaker 03

  No, that's not it. It's HGH, I think.

• 1:03:55Danny Jones?

  Oh, age, human growth hormone.

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  Maybe that's what it is, anyway.

• 1:03:58Danny Jones?

  Do you, do you inject it in your body?

• 1:04:00Speaker 03

  No, no, it's a pill.

• 1:04:01Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:04:02Speaker 03

  So you forget the acronyms, it's a, it's a, it tells your brain to make more testosterone.

• 1:04:07Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  And, cause I got these buddies, like my buddy Stig's, he's a retired cop and he's, he chest presses 350 pounds.

• 1:04:15Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:04:16Speaker 03

  He's a monster.

• 1:04:17Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:04:17Speaker 03

  And he'll drink like 50 beers and not get drunk. And he's like, you gotta do it. And he goes, you can't have kids anymore. Your fucking balls turn into peas. But who cares? When was the last time your wife even fucking saw your balls?

• 1:04:31Danny Jones?

  Exactly.

• 1:04:31Speaker 03

  And I'm like, these are all strong points. So I didn't want to go full T, so I tried that shit. Started going bald immediately. And this is.

• 1:04:39Danny Jones?

  You got great hair for your age. How old are you?

• 1:04:40Speaker 03

  I'm 55.

• 1:04:41Danny Jones?

  Great hairline.

• 1:04:42Speaker 03

  So we're at, but we're losing it here.

• 1:04:44Danny Jones?

  Is that hairline real or did you get surgery?

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  I, it's my pubes. I had my pubes skin grafted and I did it myself.

• 1:04:50Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  That's almost never done. Yeah. Numbing cream.

• 1:04:54Danny Jones?

  It looks great.

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  A six pack and some ice. No, that's my real hair, but uh, but the thing I didn't like is I would come home and my kids felt like my, my wife felt like my girlfriend and then my kids felt like my girlfriend's kids. Like I was like, hi buddy. How are you today? All right. Did you play your baseball or whatever you guys do? I was like, all right, I'm not doing this.

• 1:05:16Danny Jones?

  That was when you took the pills?

• 1:05:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:18Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:05:19Speaker 03

  But I think like, just like Viagra, it's sitting there on the maybe shelf.

• 1:05:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:24Speaker 03

  And I may, I may become the testosterone guy. But I'm waiting till it's an issue. Like Anthony Kumia.

• 1:05:31Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  He was uh, fucking getting injected in the ass like a maniac.

• 1:05:36Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:36Speaker 03

  And I would hang out with him. He'd drink too much. And I also noticed when we would hang out, he'd be like, look at that ass. And I'd be like, what? And there'd be like some woman like 40 feet away. And then he ended up getting a quadruple bypass.

• 1:05:51Speaker 03

  So.

• 1:05:51Danny Jones?

  Anthony Kumia?

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:53Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:05:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:54Danny Jones?

  At what age?

• 1:05:56Speaker 03

  60?

• 1:05:57Danny Jones?

  You think it was from doing the testosterone?

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  I do think it was.

• 1:06:00Danny Jones?

  No, there's no way.

• 1:06:01Speaker 03

  Well, there's genetics.

• 1:06:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  There's the boozing.

• 1:06:03Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 1:06:04Speaker 03

  But he was fucking going hard.

• 1:06:07Danny Jones?

  You know, it's a, it's a big thing with uh, like 20 year olds, like, like really young kids now, like it's a high schoolers.

• 1:06:14Speaker 03

  That's fucking terrible news.

• 1:06:15Danny Jones?

  High schoolers going to the gym, they just want to get super yoked. So they fucking buy testosterone behind the gas station and they're all fucking injected.

• 1:06:22Speaker 03

  Okay, stop.

• 1:06:24Speaker 03

  Women don't want super yoked, like, women don't want David Beckham. And I'd also like to say, as a guy who used to be young, we don't want fucking, like, Lonnie Anderson lingerie, like, tomboys are extinct, right? That was my bread and butter when I was at fifteen years old. That's how you start getting into girls. Right. She has overalls and a red baseball hat and she likes baseball. And you go on a date with her and maybe you smooch and touch one tit. Mm-hmm. When you get into your twenties, you want her to wear lingerie and smack her ass with high heel shoes and all that shit. But it's a stepping stone. Mm-hmm. And they've eradicated tomboys from the fucking gene pool. Now, they just go, I'm a man, they cut their tits off. Right.

• 1:07:08Speaker 03

  And now, there was a, the cover of Time Magazine said extinct and it had a tomboy on the front. No, it didn't. It did. When? A month ago. You're making this up. Pull that up, Jamie. I think you're, I think you're making this shit up. I wish I was. I wish I was. And Time Magazine's pretty left. Yeah, now you're, you've made, oh my god, it's fucking real. Holy shit. That girl, I was obsessed with that girl my whole life, you know, as a young man. And also on TV. Dude, I mean, yeah, there's nothing wrong with tomboys. You had Bailey with WKRP. You had Welcome Back, Cotter's Wife, like, Gen X in the seventies. Those were our gals. We wanted to kiss them on the lips. The first to exist since the nineties.

• 1:07:49Speaker 03

  Is this, is this like, is, is Time going anti-trans? Well, maybe, yes. And there, I think they're also saying that tomboys are coming back, which I hope they are. Like, call me old fashioned, I don't want you to mutilate yourself and cut your fucking tits off. Right. Have you ever seen a tit? A tit? Yeah. I've seen one or two. It's a very elaborate piece of machinery. Did you know? I'm watching my wife feed a baby with one every single day now. Did you know when they're feeding a baby, the tit goes, "Not a lot of iron here. Let's produce more iron in the milk." It's fucking crazy. It's a lab, it's a live lab. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not an ear lobe. Right. And they chop that off and literally throw it in the garbage. It's crazy.

• 1:08:33Speaker 03

  In the name of, you know, feminism. I think all that's, the pendulum's swinging on all that shit, isn't it? Yes, you're right, but people are still getting canceled. I mean,

• 1:08:43Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:08:44Speaker 03

  Sure. And there's all these holdouts. I mean, LA, Hollywood, the comedy scene in the West Coast. They're gonna fucking, they're sort of like um, the, the Japanese military when they didn't know that World War II ended. I saw a great video recently where this woman was like, there's a certain demographic who transitioned their kids, and they're never gonna admit they were wrong, because you cut your daughter's tits off. It's like a girl who got an abortion, she's never gonna be pro-life.

• 1:09:13Danny Jones?

  No, because you've gone so far.

• 1:09:14Speaker 03

  If you become pro-life, you have to admit that you killed a baby.

• 1:09:18Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:09:18Speaker 03

  So they're pro-choice for life, and I think these parents that cut her tits off, they're like, it was definitely the right thing.

• 1:09:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:25Speaker 03

  Or else I maimed my child, which is, what's worse than maiming your child?

• 1:09:30Danny Jones?

  There's not much things, there can't get much bad worse than that.

• 1:09:32Speaker 03

  I guess maybe mass murder, maybe?

• 1:09:34Danny Jones?

  Megan Fox has trans kids?

• 1:09:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's got like seven.

• 1:09:37Danny Jones?

  Seven of them, yeah.

• 1:09:38Speaker 03

  Statistically impossible.

• 1:09:39Danny Jones?

  It's insane. And that's the, so that, you did some big trans piece back, and that's what, that was the camel, the straw that broke the camel's back for you and Vice?

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  No, not at all.

• 1:09:49Danny Jones?

  No, okay.

• 1:09:49Speaker 03

  So, the straw that broke the camel's back with me and Vice was um, Viacom. We were merging with Viacom, and they go, I don't like this guy. There was this guy, Brian Grayden, I think his name is, and I had the do's and don'ts, and there's a lot of gay jokes in there.

• 1:10:04Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:10:05Speaker 03

  And so, I was always like investigating radical shit, and then, I think I went to this, uh, I know I went to this AMRA, American Renaissance Conference, and there, I think Brian Grayden was like, see? See what he's up to? And uh, you know, Shane was my childhood friend, I hired him to do sales. We were buddies when we were 12, and he was like,

• 1:10:27Danny Jones?

  In Canada?

• 1:10:28Speaker 03

  Shane and Sarush were both like, fuck man, that was way too far, and you're getting out of control. And I would have been like, okay, we were handshake guys. But they gave me a legal document, and I just couldn't get over it. So when they reached out the olive branch, or when Shane did, I was still so mad about the lawyer letter, that I was like, fuck you. And then when I was, I take a long time to get over things. So like a month later, when I was ready to forgive him, he had already,

• 1:10:55Danny Jones?

  This is after the breakup?

• 1:10:57Speaker 03

  No, this is leading to the breakup.

• 1:10:59Danny Jones?

  Leading to the breakup?

• 1:10:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is 2004.

• 1:11:02Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:11:03Speaker 03

  Uh, when I reached out my olive branch, he was done. Like, this is, like, whenever you hear about this, like, like, what's her name at, uh,

• 1:11:13Danny Jones?

  This is so strange to me because it's always been a wild phenomenon to me. People who grew up as friends for so long, and then one of them just fucking cuts all ties, all communication, everything.

• 1:11:23Speaker 03

  Well, ninety percent of the time, it's mistimed olive branches. So he reached out his, I snapped it away. And then when I reached out mine, it was dead, he snapped his away. That's really what it comes down to. And there was a woman at the New York Times, she was the executive editor, what was her name? Fucking Laura Rabinovich or something. And I said to her once, I go, what it really comes down to is you didn't have beers with Pinch. Pinch was the, um, Arthur Salzburger Jr. That's why the Japanese get drunk with their employees. You gotta get drunk with your coworkers. You guys should go get pissed, like, once a month. When you don't do that, I don't know, you drift apart. When you get drunk with your coworkers, you, you reestablish connections and you realize, oh, you're a human being.

• 1:12:07Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:12:08Speaker 03

  When you don't do that, you, you drift apart.

• 1:12:11Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 1:12:11Speaker 03

  And that's what happened with us. We were like three amigos, we bought a house together in Costa Rica. We would party together every, all December, no, all of January, all of July. And then I fell in love with this woman and I left the trio. And they, I think they, I don't think they, you know, openly resented that, but it was like, who the fuck is this guy? And then they go on a golf trip with Johnny Knoxville and shit, and I'm like, I'd rather just be with my girlfriend and, you know, go skiing or some shit.

• 1:12:42Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 1:12:42Speaker 03

  So that was the beginning of the end. Uh, olive branch is smashed. And, uh, yeah, we never recovered from that.

• 1:12:50Speaker 03

  So, the moral of the story is if you, if you have a, a big company...

• 1:12:55Danny Jones?

  And then, and then, and then.

• 1:12:56Speaker 03

  And then there was the pressure from corporate Viacom to get rid of me. I want it. But I could have survived that if I hung out with those guys more and drank more.

• 1:13:04Danny Jones?

  Did you see that coming though? Like when they started courting that VC money? Did you like, how, how clearly did you see that coming?

• 1:13:13Speaker 03

  That's a great question. And the funny thing is, my role was always being their worst nightmare.

• 1:13:20Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:13:20Speaker 03

  Like I was the Grinch that stole Christmas, like from day one. We used to, in, in Montreal days, we would go to the printing press when we were newsprint. And we had to wait like six hours at the press to check the reds and the yellows and the greens. I think it was bullshit. What are we gonna do? More green, please? Like, I think it was just a gesture. But anyway, I would draw, I'm a good cartoonist. I would draw the most horrifically insulting cartoons of them. And Sarush looks like Gonzo from The Muppet Show. And I would draw like his bags under his eyes. And I would, it would take me like 10 minutes and I would show him and he'd be like, Jesus Christ, that is so horrible. And then I draw Shane as this like fat useless tub of shit.

• 1:14:05Speaker 03

  And I would show him. And Sarush can take it on the chin, but Shane is very sensitive and he'd be like, you know what? That actually looks bad on you. And I'm like, this fat tub of shit looks bad on me? And he's like, yeah, it shows how you see people. So I was, I just like the screwdriver belt buckle and the speak English. Like I was always the bad guy.

• 1:14:26Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:27Speaker 03

  In a silly Batman villain kind of way. So, uh, there was no really writing on the wall in that sense, cause that was the culture. And in fact with Vice.

• 1:14:36Danny Jones?

  That was, that was the, would you say that kind of attitude and that mindset was the whole soul behind Vice, right?

• 1:14:43Speaker 03

  Correct. And I, that was our business plan. Our business plan was Gavin and the Sid Vicious guys were cantankerous nightmares. And then the sales guys hated us.

• 1:14:54Danny Jones?

  They were like mom and dad.

• 1:14:55Speaker 03

  Right. And we could never be friends. And I remember when I tried to transfer that to Vice UK, they would do these advertorials where it's a five-page article about Tiger Beer and how awesome it is. And I'm like, dude, no person reading this is like, well, I guess Vice really loves Tiger Beer. I guess it's a delicious beer. And they just found it upon themselves to talk about Tiger Beer for five pages. No dude, it's clearly, they paid for this fucking shit. Mm-hmm. So, we had this cantankerous relationship and it was fucking fun, I gotta say. Like, I have this joke where I add the word care into everything. Where people are like, uh, "Hey man, I just got my diploma." And I'm like, "Hi, I just got my diploma in care."

• 1:15:41Speaker 03

  Cause I don't care that you got your diploma, right? In care? Yeah, like, care was the con- the constant thing. Um, "Sorry I'm late, sorry I care," I don't know. Oh, I see what you're saying. It gets funny thirty-seven times into it. Okay. So this, I remember one time there was this sales guy coming by, it was me and Jesse Pearson, who was the managing editor at the time. And the sales guy is walking by the cool section, the editorial section. We made the advertising guys the nerds in the other section. Right. And there was literally a wall between us. So he's coming out and he's with some radio guy and he goes, "Hey, uh, hey guys," and we're like, "Uh, hi." And, uh, he goes, "This is, uh, the radio dude I was telling you about, who wants to advertise with us."

• 1:16:24Speaker 03

  And I go, "Where does he work? C-A-R-E-F-M?" And then we all died fucking laughing. Cause we don't care. And, uh, that chips away after a while. Especially when you get to Viacom levels. Yeah. And eventually it breaks. And, uh, yeah, they were like, "I don't like this advertising hates editorial." I mean, we'd still, we'd still drink beers with him on a Friday night. That's my dad's thing. My dad always said, "I'm a terrible person to work with. I'm a great guy to drink with." And that's always been my philosophy. Work should not be fun. Besides this. So, like, work sucks. What the fuck are you doing? Get your notes together.

• 1:17:07Speaker 03

  And then, you know, Friday at five, let's go to the bar and I'll hang out with you, we're buddies. But we're like, working on the chain gang. We're like, chipping rocks. Right.

• 1:17:17Danny Jones?

  But like, you were, you were in charge of all the content.

• 1:17:20Speaker 03

  All the content. I was retard. I was literally retards. We had Ari the Rugged Man, the rapper, he had severely handicapped kids.

• 1:17:29Danny Jones?

  Oh, no.

• 1:17:29Speaker 03

  I mean siblings.

• 1:17:30Danny Jones?

  Oh.

• 1:17:31Speaker 03

  Like brutally, and we.

• 1:17:33Danny Jones?

  This guy work for you?

• 1:17:34Speaker 03

  No, he was a friend.

• 1:17:35Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:17:36Speaker 03

  But we did a, like a advice column.

• 1:17:39Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:17:40Speaker 03

  I was, I would answer questions as a retard. I was women, I was a black guy, like, because they said your writing isn't diverse enough. So I just became all the people that they wanted us to be. Black, female, retarded, whatever you want. That's the best way to handle diversity. Just have a white guy do it.

• 1:17:59Danny Jones?

  Oh, my fucking god.

• 1:18:01Speaker 03

  That's your pull quote?

• 1:18:03Danny Jones?

  That's fucking hilarious. Well, there was like, there was, and I've heard this described by Hamilton. He says there was like three.

• 1:18:10Speaker 03

  Who's Hamilton?

• 1:18:11Danny Jones?

  Morris. Was he after you?

• 1:18:12Speaker 03

  Thomas Morton?

• 1:18:14Danny Jones?

  Oh, Hamilton Morris.

• 1:18:15Speaker 03

  Hamilton? Was he, did he come in there after you? That rings a bell. I don't really think I know him.

• 1:18:19Danny Jones?

  Well, interesting. Maybe he came in after you. You had, you ever heard of Hamilton's pharmacopeia?

• 1:18:24Speaker 03

  Nope. Oh, that's the guy who did like the drug videos?

• 1:18:28Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:18:29Danny Jones?

  The chemist.

• 1:18:30Speaker 03

  Couldn't know him last. You gotta understand too, after I left, I was so resentful that I would see that logo, which I can only tolerate like now.

• 1:18:37Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:18:37Speaker 03

  Uh, forty years later.

• 1:18:39Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:18:40Speaker 03

  So I wouldn't watch any of the shows.

• 1:18:42Danny Jones?

  Right. Was there video when you were still there? Were you guys, were you guys were already doing video?

• 1:18:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. We went, David Cross and I went to China and we, we had a company make us apple pies called All American Apple Pies. With an American flag in them. And when you pull out the American flag, it plays a Star Spangled Banner with like a little machine in the apple pie.

• 1:19:07Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:19:08Speaker 03

  And it said American made on the side.

• 1:19:10Danny Jones?

  In China?

• 1:19:10Speaker 03

  In China. Yeah. We did a million funny things. We went to a bar once when we were there. And we met the owner and he's like, what are you guys doing here? And we go, we're in a band, but the fucking government doesn't want us here because we're too revolutionary. And they took all our equipment. So I guess we can't do our tour. And he goes, you can play here. You can play your show here. And I would give you all kindly, we got drum, we got, we got bass. I was lying, obviously.

• 1:19:39Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:19:39Speaker 03

  Jake was one of the guys.

• 1:19:41Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 1:19:41Speaker 03

  Yeah. So we had a show the next night. I was on drums.

• 1:19:49Speaker 03

  Like.

• 1:19:53Speaker 03

  Jake was like.

• 1:19:57Speaker 03

  Like we just. You guys had no clue what you're doing. No, none of us could play instruments and David Cost was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're totally rocking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. At one point, we did a sketch that was purely spontaneous. I bought a racist mask with like long Fu Manchu things and like chinky eyes. And I'm trying to buy like a watch in the market in Beijing, no Shanghai. And the guy's like, oh, you got to pay like a 20 bucks. And I'm like, oh, I get what's happening because I'm Guy Jin, right? I'm a fucking white guy, so you're going to give me the white prices.

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• 1:21:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know what's happening here. Fuck you. And then I go around the corner. I put on the racist mask, but I put the like hat back on in the jacket. So I come back and I'm like, like with big buck teeth. The guy was funny enough to get the bit with no introduction. And he gives me a total crazy rebate on it. And then I buy the watch for like two bucks. Oh, Jesus Christ. Cause he was funny enough to understand. I didn't know Chinese people could be funny, but wow. We did like a hundred of those dumb sketches. And Shane kinda kiboshed it. It was Vice. We were, you're asking me about pre-video when I was there, pre, pre-split when I was there. Right, right, right. Yeah, we did tons of stuff. I mean, I was the head of Vice TV. I was in charge of that.

• 1:22:23Speaker 03

  We did a pilot with Johnny Knoxville and a pilot with David Cross. You know what's funny about Johnny Knoxville?

• 1:22:31Speaker 03

  Those guys have ball flicking in their like DNA. Yup. So you'll be at MTV talking to Brian Greene or not Brian Greene, the, the fag I talked about earlier. Or some like major player at Comedy Central. Jeff Tremaine, Johnny Knoxville, all those guys, when they're like waiting in the hallway for a meeting, they're all like this at all times. They're always covering their balls. Covering their balls. Like it could be a funeral. Yeah. It could be like, we could be meeting the president, getting the, the Congressional Medal of Honor and they'd just be like waiting there because they flick fucking balls on it. Oh my God. It's just in their DNA now. They always protect their balls. One time I was with Knoxville and Jeff Tremaine at, uh, that Lemmy bar in LA.

• 1:23:15Speaker 03

  Hollywood something, Hollywood Bowl, whatever it's called. Anyway Tremaine, uh, Steve-O leaves his phone on the bar and Tremaine picks it up. He call, starts calling his ex-girlfriends, Steve-O's. And he does a perfect Steve-O and he's like, hey, I miss you so much. I'll pay for your fucking Uber. Uh, get down here. I want to be with you so bad. And Steve-O was on a date. So as he comes back from the bathroom, like all these exes start appearing. Oh my God. Dude, those guys are advanced. Is that how Spike Jonze got into the whole Vice loop? Yeah, that was me. Through, through you. Spike Jonze got into the Vice loop. Uh, I saw adaptation.

• 1:23:57Speaker 03

  And I go, that's the, we went to a premiere. And I go, that's the greatest film ever made. I connected.

• 1:24:04Danny Jones?

  Adaptation, I've never seen that.

• 1:24:05Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. It's in my top five.

• 1:24:07Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:24:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:11Speaker 03

  But I don't want any spoilers, but there's a scene where what's her name, Meryl Streep or something? She's on a porn site. Cause her boyfriend filmed her. And I go, Spike, greatest movie I've ever seen, but why would Meryl Streep? Character, Meryl Streep's character, except being on a porn site? That's not her personality. Like the woman who are okay with being on porn sites have like neck tattoos. And they do crack. They're not like classy broads. And it bothered him a lot. He was like, fuck. You should always, guys, if you're watching, screen all movies through me. I will tell you. I will tell you the hole in the plot. But then I felt like Shane and Eddie, they kind of like stole Spike from me.

• 1:24:56Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 1:24:57Speaker 03

  They didn't even like Adaptation.

• 1:24:58Danny Jones?

  Huh.

• 1:25:01Speaker 03

  So. And then they started Vice Film, which, yeah.

• 1:25:06Danny Jones?

  So when you, when you guys started courting those VC companies?

• 1:25:11Speaker 03

  I love that word. Courting.

• 1:25:12Danny Jones?

  Courting, yeah.

• 1:25:14Speaker 03

  We bought Viacom flowers and chocolates.

• 1:25:17Danny Jones?

  Are you serious?

• 1:25:18Speaker 03

  No. Actually, you want to know courting? Back in the, the, the newsprint days in, in Montreal.

• 1:25:26Speaker 03

  The record labels were the only people advertising in like weeklies. We were monthlies, but whatever, right? Like, think of The Village Voice, that's what we were. These record labels were like, we want to hire women too. I'm a dude, so I'm too busy like getting CDs to the customer and signing bands and doing real shit. There's a woman here, we got to give her a job. How about you just buy ads in newsprint shit? So our bosses, in a sense, were these women. And they were fucking cougars. And I think one of our coworkers, like peers, they had a graphic design firm called Heliozilla.

• 1:26:07Speaker 03

  And they're like, have you ever noticed that the only way we can move ahead is to fuck these forty year olds? And I'm like, yeah, that seems to be an issue. And he goes, they're fucking cougars is what they're. I think he copyrighted the word, didn't copyright, I think he invented the word cougars. But anyway, Shane was our sales guy. And the poor guy had to eat out these forty year olds when we were like twenty two. And we always said back then, we go, we ate our way to the top.

• 1:26:35Speaker 03

  And I don't know why this stuck with me so much, but you know, before I hated Shane, I loved him. And he told me about some chick he went to dinner with. And she was a cougar and she ran like universal. What, did you say chick? No, I said Asian American. Oh my god. Did you hear, you're racist. Yeah. Do you hear when people say Asian? Unfucking believable. That's sad. I feel sorry for you. So anyway, they're having dinner together, right? And I've, can you see my hand? No. Okay. Can you see my hand now? So they're having dinner together. She's eating, not looking at him. They all have short hair, by the way, which is. What? If you're fucking a woman from behind and she has short hair, you're looking down at a twelve year old boy. I got into bed with a lady.

• 1:27:20Speaker 03

  Now I'm a twelve year old boy. You me. That's why I always say to ladies, fucking grow your hair out. I don't care how thin and gross it is. Grow it up. But anyway, so they're at dinner. And they're eating and she, her hand is on the table and she goes like this.

• 1:27:39Speaker 03

  You know what that means? What does it mean? Put your hand in my hand.

• 1:27:45Speaker 03

  I don't know. Is that the Holocaust? Like, that's the worst thing I've ever heard. And to this day, if anyone goes like this to me, I, I'm like the Hulk. I just go and I start killing everyone in the room. Like.

• 1:28:01Speaker 03

  And he didn't want to be there. She showed up in a limo, picked him up. Hmm.

• 1:28:08Speaker 03

  Am I nuts? Does that sound revolting to you? Maybe I'm nuts.

• 1:28:12Danny Jones?

  It sounds weird.

• 1:28:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 1:28:15Speaker 03

  Maybe you had to be. Like, imagine you're fucking a woman.

• 1:28:17Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:17Speaker 03

  Who's old and ugly, you don't want to fuck her. And you're at dinner with her and her business is contingent on your business's success. And she decides to Harvey Weinstein you. We were Harvey Weinsteined.

• 1:28:30Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:28:30Speaker 03

  And it wasn't me, it was mostly Shane.

• 1:28:32Danny Jones?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 1:28:33Speaker 03

  But to go like, that's worse than Harvey Weinstein.

• 1:28:37Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:37Speaker 03

  At least Harvey was like, blow me and I'll get you in a movie.

• 1:28:40Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:28:41Speaker 03

  Did he ever go like?

• 1:28:42Danny Jones?

  Just calling you over like you're just like, she's some royalty.

• 1:28:45Speaker 03

  Give me your hand, give me your hand.

• 1:28:46Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:28:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:50Danny Jones?

  How about, uh, have you seen what Candace Owens is doing with Harvey Weinstein? She's vindicating him.

• 1:28:56Speaker 03

  I just saw that today, yeah.

• 1:28:57Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:28:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:59Danny Jones?

  Oh, man.

• 1:28:59Speaker 03

  Is that old news?

• 1:29:00Danny Jones?

  No, she's been, I think she's been going at this for months now, but, um, apparently he got me too. Apparently he's innocent.

• 1:29:08Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 1:29:11Speaker 03

  Very unpopular opinion.

• 1:29:16Danny Jones?

  I love how fast you were to agree to that.

• 1:29:18Speaker 03

  I hope this doesn't get me cancelled. Harvey Weinstein did nothing wrong.

• 1:29:22Danny Jones?

  Nothing.

• 1:29:22Speaker 03

  He said suck my dick and you can be in a bunch of movies.

• 1:29:25Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:29:26Speaker 03

  What would happen if Harvey said that to you? You'd be like, no, thanks. Guess I won't be in a ton of movies. Not on my radar, thanks.

• 1:29:36Danny Jones?

  Oh, god.

• 1:29:38Speaker 03

  Marisa Tomei was like, he said if I don't fuck him, I won't be in movies. Okay, get another trade then.

• 1:29:44Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's not like he's holding a gun. It's not like he's holding a gun to you.

• 1:29:47Speaker 03

  I feel the same way about, um, P. Diddy. He raped me 37 times. Oh, my god, that's horrible. What kind of cage were you in? Oh, I would go home and, uh, then I would come back for the next rape. Okay, what did the police say? Oh, I didn't go to the police. Okay, get the fuck out of here. And, this is where it gets real controversial. Jeffrey Epstein couldn't care less. Now, if you find a 12-year-old.

• 1:30:15Danny Jones?

  Jeffrey Epstein couldn't care less.

• 1:30:17Speaker 03

  I couldn't care less, but.

• 1:30:18Danny Jones?

  Oh, you couldn't care about Jeffrey Epstein?

• 1:30:19Speaker 03

  Don't give a shit. Now, if you find me a prepubescent girl that was there against her will, by all means, I want to murder everyone involved with an M16 and bury them under the fucking jailhouse. But, like, a voluntary 17-year-old? Well, I'd like to beat up her dad. But, all these postpubescent sex party shit? I think it dilutes the actual child trafficking children.

• 1:30:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:48Speaker 03

  That are being shipped all over America right now, to the tunes of hundreds of thousands.

• 1:30:53Danny Jones?

  Well, it was that with the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. They were shipping over like 12-year-olds.

• 1:30:57Speaker 03

  Okay, if I looked that up, I couldn't find it. But show me a 12-year-old, and now I'm mad.

• 1:31:03Danny Jones?

  Jean-Luc Burnell, the fucking, um, the French modeling agency guy, was shipping over 12-year-olds to Epstein Island.

• 1:31:08Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm in. You show me a 12-year-old, I'm in. All I've seen is 17-year-olds.

• 1:31:13Danny Jones?

  Did you see that one witness?

• 1:31:14Speaker 03

  Like, you know how many fucking 17-year-olds The Beatles fucked?

• 1:31:18Danny Jones?

  Oh my god, that's so funny. Have you seen, I'm sure you've heard all the songs, right? What's the Kiss song?

• 1:31:24Speaker 03

  Christine, sixteen. Sexy and seventeen, The Beatles. There was a girl.

• 1:31:29Danny Jones?

  There's a, um, a Rick James song, too.

• 1:31:32Speaker 03

  There was a very hot Puerto Rican girl that Jimmy Page kidnapped.

• 1:31:37Speaker 03

  I will concede, she's one of the prettiest women I've ever seen. Big fucking fat lips. But David Bowie fucked her, she was 14 at the time.

• 1:31:47Speaker 03

  Led Zeppelin fucked her, Jimmy Page kidnapped her. And she's in a book called Groupies. I don't like that. It's not at the top of my priority list, because it was voluntary, but I want to focus on fucking children. There's children, there's 350,000 missing children from Biden's. Let's focus on that, please. And I'm dubious of all this Weinstein, Epstein, uh, Diddy stuff, where you're just like, ah, there's sexual transgressions. No, no, no. There's adults being gross where like this dumb bitch had to lick come off some male prostitutes back. Gross, don't wanna hear about it. Then there's fucking children.

• 1:32:30Danny Jones?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:32:30Speaker 03

  Can we focus, please?

• 1:32:32Danny Jones?

  Right, yeah, the Diddy thing is like, who gives a fuck?

• 1:32:35Speaker 03

  I could not.

• 1:32:36Danny Jones?

  How many gay orgies?

• 1:32:36Speaker 03

  I assumed that was going on. You're rich, you're black, you're probably on the DL. Sure, you're fucking drinking come off some dude's forehead. I don't want, I'm actually mad I have to hear about it.

• 1:32:50Danny Jones?

  Yeah, no, it's definitely a distraction from the real disgusting underage child trafficking.

• 1:32:55Speaker 03

  Did you see that James O'Keefe scoop?

• 1:32:57Danny Jones?

  No.

• 1:32:58Speaker 03

  Some whistleblower who worked at, uh, what's it called, H and H, Human HHR?

• 1:33:04Speaker 03

  She goes, "We kept shipping kids, Mexican illegal kids, to the same address. And we knew that address was a sex trafficking address. And I said to my bosses," and thank God for this woman being brave enough to go to James O'Keefe with this. She goes, "I said to my bosses, 'That's a sex trafficker's house.'" And they said, "Yes, I know, but we only get sued if we keep kids too long." Which is kind of a Biden thing. "We have to keep the machine moving." And she said, "Sex traffickers don't sue." "So if we can keep the kids going to these homes where they get..." I'm talking about eight, nine, 10, 11. Uh, "We don't get sued, so we're good and we're doing our job." This is again, women in the workforce.

• 1:33:49Speaker 03

  Like, they get, they get so devoted to their job that they're like, "Yeah, let's kill some kids." They always say, I'm off on a tangent now, but they always say like, "Women should rule the world. There be no more wars." Yeah, we tried that, it was called paganism. They sacrificed babies and virgins to their stupid fucking grass gods.

• 1:34:09Danny Jones?

  Who did?

• 1:34:09Speaker 03

  The pagans, pre-Christianity, like in Ireland and all over Europe. Yeah. So I don't wanna go back to that.

• 1:34:17Danny Jones?

  Well, they still, I mean, they sacrificed baby, even Christians, even early Christians were sacrificing babies. That was just part of the world back then, wasn't it? Human trafficking was like ubiquitous in antiquity.

• 1:34:27Speaker 03

  Are you an atheist?

• 1:34:29Danny Jones?

  No, I'm not an atheist.

• 1:34:30Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:34:32Speaker 03

  But I'm not a Christian. What are you? I'm not really, I'm like, I'm a, I'm a eunuch. I'm a Buddhist. I'm a religious eunuch. I'm a Muslim. I'm a Muslim. I hate when they say Muslim. You were a Muslim? No, I had a Muslim on the show. What do you call him? A Muslimam? I call him a muzzy. A muzzy? Yeah. I'm not compatible with. You didn't, you used to say Jesus was a fat. I did say that, yes. Not proud of that. Why? I was just trying to be controversial. Oh, you were just trying to. I was an atheist back then. You were trying to get the people going. Yeah. What inspired you to say that? I was just trying to be rude. Oh, okay. Yeah. Um, I mean, there's evidence that Abraham Lincoln was a fat.

• 1:35:13Speaker 03

  It's kind of, back then, I was, you know, in media, what you want to think outside the box. Hmm. Podcasts are gay. Hmm. I don't know. Sure. Just trying to get people riled up. Yeah, you want to say something like, like Jonathan Swift with his, um, A Modest Proposal. Where he said, "The Irish are overpopulated and they're starving. Let's have them eat their babies." Hmm. I was just trying to be, I, I regret it very much, but, uh, I was an atheist until my daughter was born. I said this on Joe Rogan's show, which is now deleted, but, uh. He deleted it? Yeah, both my Joe Rogans are deleted. Um, I saw her. Oh, after the Spotify. I saw her heel.

• 1:35:54Speaker 03

  And, uh, the fact that that, she was a baby, the fact that her little heel, she's 18 now, is going to like change and develop and always be the perfect amount of padding. And then, and that sounds too rational, and then I, I honestly felt God when I was in bed. Tried to blow me. No, I'm just kidding. That's a joke. That's a joke. Don't, don't make me, my plane crash. No, I was in bed with my wife and I, I felt God and I woke up my wife and I went, "I love God."

• 1:36:25Speaker 03

  Really? Yeah, so there's a rational. You woke up. I woke up in the middle of the night. Told your wife you loved God. My daughter would have been like, this would be like 2007, and I, I woke her up and I go, "I love God." And that's kind of, like, they always go, "How could you prove to an atheist that God exists?" You could show them like the shrouded turn and all this data, but you really got to kind of feel it. And God was like, "I'm here."

• 1:36:55Speaker 03

  And I've been Because of the miracle of watching your child be born. I think there were two separate things. One was a rational thing where I saw her heal and I was so impressed with what God has created. But then secondly was purely spiritual and it was God coming in and being, "By the way, I'm right here." Huh. That's how he talks. That's interesting. "Hey dude, I was waiting for you. What took you so long?" So do you go to church every week? I did. Um, after I got canceled though, I live in a very liberal neighborhood. Oh, really? And, uh, when I would bring the family to church, it was all like

• 1:37:33Speaker 03

  You know, it's funny, you hear this, I'm actually biting some of my stand-up, but, um, you hear about black people and they're like, "When I was young, they would touch my hair for good luck." And you're like, "That doesn't sound so bad, like this." And they go like, "Code switching." I have to code switch where when I'm with my cousins, I'm like, "Yo, what's up, motherfucker?" But when I'm at work, I have to say, "Hello, how are you?" Hmm, somebody who made a church, you'd have to code switch. Yeah, we all do that, bitch. Uh, and then I realized, I'm a

• 1:38:05Speaker 03

  Like, I'm black in 1945. I'm married to a white woman in 1945. They vandalized my car. They throw fruit at my fucking house. They zig-hile me when I'm out with my kids. They ostracize my children, just like the black girl at school that had to be escorted to the school. That's my daughter. Like, she was eating lunch alone. And This is after the whole Proud Boys. Still going strong since 2018, yeah. And Anthony Kumia actually made up this joke where I like, I get to the like kids' baseball games, like I'll be at one tomorrow. And I could see the liberal whites disproportionately Jewish, but whatever. And I could see them like, "Oh, God." The n****s here.

• 1:38:51Speaker 03

  And, and I, my attitude is like, I'm like a fat black guy in nineteen thirty-nine. And I'm just like, I don't want no trouble, alright? I just, I'm like crumpling up my bucket hat. I just, I just wanna see my boy's game now. I don't need no trouble. You, y'all enjoy your game. So does your kid not have any friends? All his friends are black, believe it or not. Really? Oh, you've come full circle. Well, these classist cunt liberals, they're actually racist. So they don't like the blacks. Exactly. They're into eugenics and stuff. It's, it's the horseshoe theory. Yes, so they met. So my house is Harlem. And not just my twelve-year-old, but my sixteen-year-old, blackity, black, black, black. Now, they're, they're middle-class blacks who live in a white neighborhood.

• 1:39:35Speaker 03

  So it's not exactly like fucking. But whatever. What's up, Mr. McInnes?

• 1:39:40Speaker 03

  But, uh, but I, I just think it's funny that I- They're the ones that don't give a shit. Well, I don't think they read Huffington Post. Right, right, right, right. They're like, they work their asses off to move to a white neighborhood. So they're like too busy kicking ass and taking names to deal with like, what does the fucking, uh, what does MSNBC say about Proud Boys? I don't even know if they know I'm a Proud Boy. But, um, but it's funny how I get to these baseball games and I can see the parents like, and I go like ten feet from them and I just sit there wringing my bucket hat like, I don't want no trouble now. I'm just watching my boy's game. And occasionally there'll be some like white guy who speaks to Negroes, who will come over to me and be like, hey, Mr., hey Gavin.

• 1:40:24Speaker 03

  And I'll be like, look Ben, don't, you don't need to come over now. Don't do it. Don't do it now. Save yourself. Yeah. Don't you be wrecking your life. I have a couple of guys who own restaurants in town. They're like, you should come by the restaurant. I'm like, no, no, sir. I don't wanna be wrecking your restaurant. I be no Negro coming around there eating my fried chicken and grits. Has it made you paranoid? Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:40:51Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:40:52Danny Jones?

  Has that gotten, has that got eased since the, when, this whole debacle happened, what, 2001? I'm sorry, 2021?

• 1:40:58Speaker 03

  It happened October 12th, 2018, when I did the parody of Otaya Yamaguchi killing the head of the Japanese Socialist Party, which is on my website, censored.tv.

• 1:41:09Danny Jones?

  Is this the, the talk you did?

• 1:41:11Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:41:12Danny Jones?

  At the Republican?

• 1:41:13Speaker 03

  Just a joke.

• 1:41:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:41:14Speaker 03

  But the, the left was getting a very bad reputation with Antifa and everything. So, uh, they needed violence from the right. And I actually got a call from a Jew named Mike, who I kicked out of the Proud Boys for going to Charlottesville. And, uh, he goes, dude, they're looking for a photo op tonight. I know I'm out, but, uh, they want violence from the right. So here's what you gotta do, bring pillows. And when Antifa attacks you, you'll be in a pillow fight. So the Proud Boys did bring pillows.

• 1:41:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:48Speaker 03

  They, that night, um, there was, like, I've done talks at that place before, the Metropolitan Club. And there was like zero protesters and it's always like a hundred people. All my shows are like a hundred people. And, uh, this night was like 500 people protesting. They glued the locks, they smashed the windows. They called the old lady who runs the Metropolitan Club and were like, you're a fucking whore, I'm gonna you, you. Like, and calls from all over the country. Oh, yeah. Calls from all over the country too, not New York. Um, and then there was this dude, John, he showed up and he was a journalist. He got the shit beat out of him by Antifa. They stole all his equipment.

• 1:42:32Speaker 03

  Um, 12 of them jumped him. Gavin Wax, who now works for Trump, he was there with his buddy and they go, holy fuck, Antifa's jumping a dude. They grabbed them, they got the cops involved, they arrested four people. Kai Russo, Caleb Perkins, Finn Bar-Sloanum.

• 1:42:51Danny Jones?

  One of those dudes was in, uh, the Thomas Dock, right?

• 1:42:56Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 1:42:57Danny Jones?

  I think one of the guys got arrested, he said he was in prison watching the.

• 1:42:59Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, no, no, those, I'm getting to those guys.

• 1:43:01Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:43:01Speaker 03

  So they arrested all these Antifa dudes. Uh, they go to court, lawyers appear out of the ground like corn when you arrest Antifa. And they're just like, these guys are innocent.

• 1:43:15Speaker 03

  Free to go.

• 1:43:19Speaker 03

  So we're kept in the Metropolitan Club. They dispersed the crew. All the protesters are gone. And the protesters were weird. They were like a brown turtleneck with a blazer. Yeah. Yeah, you're from Turkey, dude. You're not American. You've been hired. They had this banner like, no Nazis on our turf. And it was like a big cloth banner that was 100 feet wide embroidered. What is that? $13,000? How'd you get that together? They're throwing glass bottles of piss at us, which are the PDD Siroc bottles, which are probably 80 bucks each. I don't fucking know, like the Siroc. So they must have poured the vodka and pissed in them and they're throwing piss at us.

• 1:44:01Speaker 03

  So they leave the pillows at the fucking venue. Cause everyone's gone. They go to the subway to go home. Antifa didn't leave. They went around the corner. They flanked them. They jumped the Proud Boys. And they go, you want to go? Proud Boys go, yes. Proud Boys are losing at the beginning. Then the other guys start showing up. They win. Win. 17 second fight. The cops say to Antifa, do you want to press charges? They go, fuck you, pig. I just got punched in the face like 70 times. Oh, sorry. Like, where were you? And the cops go, okay, well, there's nothing for me to do here. There's no mutual combat. Right. So the whole thing's dropped. They record to the bars that night.

• 1:44:46Speaker 03

  Max and John are joking about it. And it wasn't even a big deal. Right. It would be like me telling people tonight that I did your podcast. Not that it's not a big deal, but like, where were you? I did Danny Jones podcast. Oh, okay. I wouldn't be like, you guys are not gonna fucking believe this. So we forgot about it that night. And next day, de Blasio, fucking Cuomo, everyone is tweeting hate has no place. You know how they always get their little word? Like with the fucking Trump in South Africa, where the word was ambush? And they all say ambush? So it was hate has no place in New York. They all kept repeating that. Like dozens of tweets from all the top brass in New York. And those guys are yanked into court, four years in prison.

• 1:45:31Speaker 03

  One of the guys was Brown. We call him Brown David. He's Indian and he was one of the three and they go, you're looking at four years with these guys. And he goes, I think you're bluffing. I think you're gonna make this whole thing about white supremacy. And you can't use it on me because I'm not white and you're gonna chicken out. So he like all in poker James Bond shit and they were like, okay, you're free to go.

• 1:45:56Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:45:57Speaker 03

  He's gone and John Kinsman's wife is black as black can be. She's not black like Cosby show black. She's like motherfucker, what the, I love her, but she's like black woman from the south side of Chicago.

• 1:46:09Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:46:10Speaker 03

  And she told me, because we would go visit them every few months. We drive for like six hours, six hours there, six hours back. And she was like, when I was at court with them, I would go piss. And all the cameras, I could hear the cameras as I walked to the bathroom, I could hear like

• 1:46:26Speaker 03

  of John. And then when I came back and sat with him, cameras down.

• 1:46:32Speaker 03

  And at one point he was like, get the fuck out of here. One guy from the Daily News, I could look up his name. He gets down on his knees like James Brown and shoots up. So this becomes this. And it's a zig hile.

• 1:46:45Danny Jones?

  Oh my god.

• 1:46:46Speaker 03

  And I had my buddies going, dude, why is your boy zig hiling? It's so fucking dumb. I'm like, he wasn't.

• 1:46:52Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:46:54Danny Jones?

  And this is all, so it wasn't until 2021, the January 6th thing, until you got all censored off all the platforms, right?

• 1:47:02Speaker 03

  No, it was that night.

• 1:47:04Danny Jones?

  Oh, it was, oh, it was on October you got banned?

• 1:47:06Speaker 03

  October 12th, 2018. Banned from Pinterest, MailChimp, Shopify, fucking Australia. I gotta piss.

• 1:47:17Danny Jones?

  Go piss.

• 1:47:19Speaker 03

  Uh, here's the thing.

• 1:47:20Danny Jones?

  What?

• 1:47:23Speaker 03

  I get that there's like suburban activists, like moms. But as far as the right and the left goes. Suburban activist moms. Yeah, like they want to terrorize your kids and stuff. They want to terrorize your kids. Yeah. So as far as the right and the left goes, the right has a problem with lack of unity. Where like, "Oh, you support Israel? Fuck you, you're dead to me." The left has the opposite problem, where they're like, "Oh, you some kids? Well, we could work it out. Just try not to do it again."

• 1:47:58Speaker 03

  So when I was vilified when I moved to the burbs during this 2018 shit.

• 1:48:06Speaker 03

  Like the suburban moms got word from Antifa that I'm a Nazi. And they were like, "I got it from here." So it went from like banners on the highway and shit. Talking to this. Banners on the highway saying like a fascist lives here. Yeah. To like the local moms putting signs on our lawns and signs everywhere. Signs in your lawns? Oh, yeah. Dude, I could do a whole podcast on the insane shit they did. My babysitter, when my kid was four, my babysitter's parents told her to quit. Because she's working for fascists. No, no, sorry. My babysitter's boyfriend's parents told him to tell her to quit. She said, "No, he dumped her."

• 1:48:50Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ. They're 17-year-olds. Imagine being, like, if I was 17 and my dad was like, "I need you to stop dating that chick, Kim. She's a fucking slut, by the way." I'd be like, "Totally done, Dad. Yeah, she's totally dumped." Anyway, I'm out to see the movies with Kim. Fuck, why do I? The place that repaired my computer got boycotted into, um, into extinction. Because they fixed my computer and they're obviously fascists if they fix my computer. So you don't want to put your computer there, they'll get your banking information. Immigrant from Portugal. Go ahead. So that was the kind of, you know, barrage of attacks. Yeah. But it was based on Antifa propaganda.

• 1:49:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. And these, these left-wing moms are perfectly, so the analogy I would use is New Canaan, Connecticut is a right-wing place. Imagine a family moved, this is about 20 minutes north of me. Imagine a family moved to New Canaan and the Nazi skinheads were like, "These guys are lovers, they're fucking race mixers. Put signs on their lawn and ostracize their childrens." And the, the, childrens, and the conservatives' moms in that neighborhood were like, "Got it. Thanks Nazis, we're on it." So, the weird thing is like, Antifa and suburban moms, yes, we're on the same page, let's work together.

• 1:50:16Speaker 03

  Whereas Nazi skinheads and fucking conservatives hate each other's guts.

• 1:50:22Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:23Speaker 03

  I'm not saying they should like each other, but the level of unity on the left is fucking bizarre.

• 1:50:29Danny Jones?

  Well, I mean Nazi skin, there's no Nazi skinheads.

• 1:50:32Speaker 03

  Well, you know, I'm being hyperbolic, but yeah, any kinda, like, Groyper's, for ex, I should say, okay, Groyper's. If Groyper's told New Canaan moms that this neighbor's a bad neighbor, New Canaan moms would be like, "Who the fuck are you? You're into frogs? Get out of my face."

• 1:50:47Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:50:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah, the whole thing is strange. It's like, it seems like every couple of years, the whole thing just morphs and shifts into something else. It seems like the, like even, like the whole idea of, of right and left is constantly fucking changing, it seems like.

• 1:51:04Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, but let's not oversimplify it. What's really happening is the whole centrist thing is moving to the left. And if you have Obama and the Clintons' politics of 2004, you're a radical right-wing lunatic.

• 1:51:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:20Speaker 03

  Meanwhile, you're left of center on any normal spectrum.

• 1:51:26Speaker 03

  So, they just keep pushing it farther left, and I think what's happened post, I'm gonna go back two months, post-two months, is you moved the Overton window too far to the left, um, you're fucking insane, we're not joining you anymore. That might be a bad use of Overton window. You, you moved the political spectrum too far to the left, and we have nothing in common with you anymore. Look at who the left has to offer. I don't know where you are on the political spectrum, but I look at like, AOC, Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar, like Gavin Newsom, absolute fucking clowns.

• 1:52:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah. They need, they're, there's definitely a void, there's a, uh...

• 1:52:10Danny Jones?

  There's a gap there.

• 1:52:11Speaker 03

  And they think it's Joe Rogan. They're like, why, why do we, why are we so unpopular? Probably because Joe Rogan controls the young people's brains. No, dude, Joe Rogan was a lefty, by the way, you ruined your brand and he moved over to our side barely.

• 1:52:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:26Speaker 03

  The reason that everyone hates you is because you, you have no policies, you have no, no views. You just have fucking radical weird losers who hate white people.

• 1:52:37Danny Jones?

  It's like a fake puppet show.

• 1:52:40Danny Jones?

  And what was I gonna say? I was gonna like, I was explaining the, um.

• 1:52:44Speaker 03

  No, I was talking about unity on the left versus disunity on the right.

• 1:52:48Danny Jones?

  I remember what I was gonna say now.

• 1:52:50Danny Jones?

  Wild idea. Imagine if the left was able to get Candace Owens to move over to their side and they fucking made Candace Owens their leader. And ran Candace Owens as president.

• 1:53:01Speaker 03

  She's way too radical.

• 1:53:03Danny Jones?

  It would be a smart move though, wouldn't it?

• 1:53:05Speaker 03

  Sure. Good luck with that.

• 1:53:06Danny Jones?

  Now with her going against Ben Shapiro.

• 1:53:08Speaker 03

  When she's saying things like Macron's wife is male, which she, she may very well be.

• 1:53:13Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:14Speaker 03

  You might be right on that, but she's, she's, she's Alex Jones. She's a very outside the box chick where you go, that's the stupidest, craziest thing I've ever heard. And then you look it up and you're like, meh. That's actually pretty true. I discovered her, you know?

• 1:53:28Danny Jones?

  You discovered Candace?

• 1:53:29Speaker 03

  I discovered Candace Owens.

• 1:53:31Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:53:31Speaker 03

  And then I became a pariah as she was moving up. I tried to get her on my show and she said no. And then I, when I started my new website censored.tv, I was, I had some investors where they go, let's get right and left talking again. And I go, dude, I tried, but okay. How much money you got? They go, well, let's spend a hundred grand trying to get the left to talk. So I got Cornel West.

• 1:53:58Danny Jones?

  I watched that, that was great.

• 1:54:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I got, and Candace also, none of the right people charged me money. Michelle Malkin was like hotel and plane. Ann Coulter was hotel and plane. Candace was like, how about 15 grand? And I was like, well, I did discover you, but okay. You know, we're never speaking ever again.

• 1:54:18Speaker 03

  And I never spoke to her ever again.

• 1:54:20Danny Jones?

  What year did you guys film that?

• 1:54:22Speaker 03

  The Candace Owens one?

• 1:54:23Danny Jones?

  Candace Owens, Cornel West one.

• 1:54:25Speaker 03

  I'm gonna say three or four years ago. You wanna know a secret about that?

• 1:54:29Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:30Speaker 03

  While the cameras were off, Candace was like, "We have a problem." I think, I'm paraphrasing here, but I think she may have said, "We have an IQ problem." Talking about blacks. That's paraphrasing, but it was something like that. And then Cornel goes, "Yes, but you get one of these brothers in front of a a soundboard and he just makes absolute magic."

• 1:54:54Danny Jones?

  Oh, that was in the show. I remember that.

• 1:54:55Speaker 03

  That made it to the show?

• 1:54:56Danny Jones?

  That part. The IQ part wasn't in there.

• 1:54:58Speaker 03

  The IQ part didn't get in.

• 1:54:59Danny Jones?

  But he said something about, uh, yeah, along the lines of getting a sound studio.

• 1:55:03Speaker 03

  I kinda agree with him in that, like, it's terrible to say, it's white supremacy to say whites are better at systems and blacks are better at other things. But they got some of the coolest shit that they're good at. Music, jazz, rap, whatever, sports.

• 1:55:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:55:20Speaker 03

  Those are very cool things. What is, what are whites, and the argument is, this is white supremacy. What are whites arguably genetically better at? Systems.

• 1:55:30Speaker 03

  That's not cool. That's like being a woodchuck or a beaver. Like, we're better at making sure these mics work. Is that really, am I allowed to have that? I can't have that? Like, for example, I'm on the plane on the way here this morning, and the fucking announcements are so relentless, it took all my willpower not to go, "SHUT UP!"

• 1:55:54Speaker 03

  Like, "We are coming through with a cart. Alright, I'll, can I wait till the cart shows up? Fasten your seatbelts. No smoking. Did you know that? You can't smoke. Really? I thought it was 1972. And I could just sit here smoking away with my little ashtray."

• 1:56:11Danny Jones?

  It's so funny, they still have the fucking signs there. They have to tell you, no smoking.

• 1:56:14Speaker 03

  Dude, it's, it's 40 minutes of announcements, and they're fucking loud. And I felt like if there's a white man in control of that scenario, he'd be like, "Guys, the announcements are getting a little abrasive. Let's take it down a notch, okay? Uh, no more announcements."

• 1:56:28Danny Jones?

  If a white man were in control, they would take it and tone it down.

• 1:56:30Speaker 03

  If a white man were in control of the announcements on a plane, this is one of my most controversial views.

• 1:56:38Speaker 03

  We'd get like, a tenth of what we get. They repeat themselves, too. We're gonna come, coming by with a JetBlue card. He said that, alright, he said that. And I think that white men are good at going, uh, alright, no more coffee in the front room. It's blocking people when they walk in. Right. You know what I mean? Dumb shit like that, dumb system stuff. But, uh, they've been kicked out of those jobs. So now there's, the lunatics are running the asylum and we have forty minutes of fucking announcements. And that's also why you see people getting cancelled. Because they get a call that, uh, a racist is working at Arby's.

• 1:57:22Speaker 03

  And there's some woman there is like, uh-oh, I better bring this up to HR. And HR's a woman and she's like, okay, fire him. But like a Clint Eastwood type of man would go, yeah, that's not what we're doing. That's ridiculous. Anyway, get back to work. Right. So the fear of whites, white supremacy has led to whites abdicating their throne as good at systems guys. Mm-hmm. And systems are suffering and we're in a competence crisis now where complex systems are falling apart. And no one knows how to fucking run an airplane anymore. Hmm. So let these guys back at the helm. Or, and the, the other problem with systems is, politics is a system. Right.

• 1:58:06Speaker 03

  So white men should be disproportionately represented in politics. Sorry. Hmm. We're just good at it. Hmm. It's not cool. Politics is like taxes, capital gains tax, estate tax. Right. You know, what borders should be where, interest rates. I don't know why I have to feel bad about being good at this boring shit. You can fucking slam dunk. Hmm. Run with that. Right. Asians, they're great at duplicating white systems and making a car better than the car we made. Mm-hmm. That's cool.

• 1:58:44Speaker 03

  But yeah, white males have to be ashamed of systems and.

• 1:58:47Danny Jones?

  I think that's going away, though. Don't you think that's starting to, like I said earlier, don't you think this whole whites blaming it white supremacy for everything was white supremacy is the problem. You paint everything with white supremacy that broad brush is like it seems like the culture is like a cultural shift happening.

• 1:59:01Speaker 03

  You're absolutely right.

• 1:59:02Danny Jones?

  It seems like more people are.

• 1:59:03Speaker 03

  But take, take a sock the size of this building and fill it with sand.

• 1:59:07Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:59:08Speaker 03

  And there's people at the front of the sock being like, we fixed this and they're marching forward and they're doing a great job. You got 50 foot of sand sock dragging through the parking lot. You got Hollywood leftist comedians like the end of that sock. Trump's gone, by the way, in a thousand days. The end of that sock, I don't know. Are we going to get it through the fucking, the, the finish line before Trump's gone?

• 1:59:36Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 1:59:39Speaker 03

  I worked out, I did the math the other day. So Biden let in 12 million. Trump has about 1300 days left. 12 million divided by 1300 is 8,000. We need to deport 8,000 a day to get rid of the illegals that Biden brought in. We still have the 30 million that were there before Biden started opening the gates. So to get back to zero is 8,000 a day.

• 2:00:03Danny Jones?

  Well, we, uh, we started deporting the protesters at the universities now. If you're, if you're protesting Israel.

• 2:00:08Speaker 03

  That's one. Okay.

• 2:00:09Danny Jones?

  You get deported.

• 2:00:09Speaker 03

  We got one.

• 2:00:10Danny Jones?

  Do you think that's a good thing?

• 2:00:12Speaker 03

  Yes. I'm an Islamophobe.

• 2:00:15Danny Jones?

  So you think if you protest, if you're a, uh, well, is it, it's not only Islam.

• 2:00:18Speaker 03

  I'm Islamophobe and a hypocrite. I'm done with being consistent. I stole this from Jim Norton. No more consistency for me. They're not being consistent, so I'm not consistent anymore. I'm not, I'm a free speech absolutist if it's my kind of free speech.

• 2:00:37Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm exaggerating, but I'm kind of not. Like, we're at war with Islam. The, the.

• 2:00:42Danny Jones?

  We're at, we're at war with Islam?

• 2:00:44Speaker 03

  Yes, absolutely.

• 2:00:45Danny Jones?

  The US?

• 2:00:46Speaker 03

  No, the Christian world, the West.

• 2:00:49Danny Jones?

  The West is, how is the West at world, at war with Islam?

• 2:00:51Speaker 03

  Because Christianity is on the decline and Islam is on the way up. And that's bad.

• 2:00:59Danny Jones?

  How is Islam on the way up?

• 2:01:01Speaker 03

  Numbers. I mean, America was, I mean, the world was two thirds Christian, a third Islam.

• 2:01:07Danny Jones?

  Yeah, what is the, what is the number there? What is the breakdown between Muslims and Christians in the world?

• 2:01:12Speaker 03

  They're about to beat us.

• 2:01:13Danny Jones?

  There, yeah.

• 2:01:14Speaker 03

  And their religion is archaic. They put women in garbage bags.

• 2:01:18Danny Jones?

  Yeah, but why do you think they hate Christians?

• 2:01:21Speaker 03

  They hate everyone.

• 2:01:22Danny Jones?

  Don't you think they, don't you think?

• 2:01:23Speaker 03

  Convert or die.

• 2:01:24Danny Jones?

  Don't you think they hate the, the, the most, uh, extremist Muslims are the one, they're, they got that way because of all the intervention?

• 2:01:33Speaker 03

  You know how many Muslims think suicide bombing is sometimes or often justified? One in four.

• 2:01:39Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:01:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:40Danny Jones?

  You really think that's true?

• 2:01:41Speaker 03

  Dig it up, boys. In, in places like Pakistan, it's gonna be like-

• 2:01:45Danny Jones?

  How do they come up with that stat? They interview-

• 2:01:47Speaker 03

  The question on the questionnaire is, do you think suicide bombing is sometimes or often justified? And of course CNN will trip over themselves to explain that question. But, um,

• 2:01:59Speaker 03

  my, my other big problem is with the moderate Muslims. Like, why are you not out there criticizing radical Islam? And, and little side note I forgot to mention.

• 2:02:09Danny Jones?

  There are.

• 2:02:10Speaker 03

  When Max and John were doing that shit and they made John look like he was Zeke Hiling, where was the right wing media? Where was Daily Wire? Where was Breitbart? Where was New York Post? Where was any right wing media going, these guys are getting railroaded? They just avoided it like the plague, so fuck them, fuck you, not you.

• 2:02:27Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:27Speaker 03

  Um, and to go back to the moderate Muslims, like, when, you need to speak out about radical Islam. I think if there's a terrorist attack, uh, like the West Side Highway or whatever you want, you deport every single person in that guy's family. The cousins, everyone. And that way, when you hear Rukhada Malat Mashan talking about, you know, bombing the Boston Marathon, you expose him because you don't want to go back. That's what they do in Russia. They deport everyone remotely involved with the attack. And that's the only way we're gonna get moderate Muslims on our side. Because the only way to fix Islam is to, uh,

• 2:03:13Speaker 03

  get the moderates with us. We can't fix it. What are we gonna do? Tell Osama bin Laden he's a jerk?

• 2:03:18Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:03:19Speaker 03

  Is he still around?

• 2:03:21Danny Jones?

  He might be. Some people probably believe he is.

• 2:03:23Speaker 03

  I hope he's okay. I want to do a book reading. You were, uh, you were in New York City on nine eleven, right? Yeah, that was rough. What was that like? Well, we're starting a whole new podcast, but, um, one of the weirdest things was my black friend Derek pretended his mother was in the, the building. Pretended? He lied. It took me 10 years. I was walking down the street and I was like, oh, he was lying. I'm not a hundred percent positive, but it's, Yeah. I'm, the problem with having Scottish parents is they're so honest that when people lie to you, it takes you like 10 years to go, wait a minute.

• 2:04:04Speaker 03

  Cause he told me she was doing photocopies on the, on her like top floor of the World Trade Center. Photocopy machine broke, so she went downstairs and went across the street to a Kinko's and she saw the building collapse from the Kinko's where she was doing her photocopying. And her purse was on her desk still. And I'm like, huh, are you okay? And then I went, wait a minute, there's no, Lower Manhattan is so fucking densely packed that your GPS doesn't work. Right. The satellite can't find you. Right. Uh, there's no like bay window where you're doing photocopies, just watching buildings collapse. But I fell for that. But anyway, um, it was a fucking intense day. We, we saw it.

• 2:04:48Speaker 03

  Um, we thought it was a fire, obviously. I was with Andrew WK. You ever heard of him? Of course. Uh, the night before, we're doing karaoke, Matt Sweeney. And Andrew WK went back to his, where he was staying in Brooklyn with his guitarist, Jimmy something. I forget the guitarist's name. But he was watching it on his TV and he goes over to Jimmy's bed and he's like, dude, you gotta wake up. The, the fucking World Trade Center's been attacked. And Jimmy goes, Andrew, what the fuck do you expect me to do about it now?

• 2:05:25Speaker 03

  And Andrew was like, I guess nothing? And then Jimmy went back to bed.

• 2:05:31Speaker 03

  Snored away, so Andrew watched it by himself. But I was with my, who's now my wife. She was my girlfriend at the time.

• 2:05:39Speaker 03

  And it went from fire to collapse. I didn't see the first plane. I definitely saw the second plane with my own eyes. Conspiracy theorists, absolutely.

• 2:05:47Danny Jones?

  Oh, you don't like the conspiracies?

• 2:05:49Speaker 03

  Well, I liked, I actually, that's a great, a whole other Pandora's box. I was always like, look, it's Muslims, terrorism, blah, blah, blah.

• 2:05:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:05:59Speaker 03

  And then, you know, not even COVID, but I think a lot of intelligent adults are like, well, I'm open to everything now. Not Flat Earth. But I'm open to like, they knew it was coming and they let it happen. I believe that's what happened with Pearl Harbor. Gulf of Tecumcun or whatever, if that even happened.

• 2:06:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:21Speaker 03

  October 7th. I think Israel allowed October 7th to happen. They'd had enough of this pit bull next door.

• 2:06:29Danny Jones?

  They wanted an excuse.

• 2:06:29Speaker 03

  Barking at their fucking kids when they came home from school. And they let the gate open and they let the pit bull bite one of the kids so they could kill the pit bull. I could be wrong, but that's what I believe.

• 2:06:41Danny Jones?

  I've noticed that people, this is a little theory that I have. And I was just talking to the dude who, who wrote The Looming Tower. That became a show, named Dolores Wright. But he, I have this theory that basically like the people that were closest to 9/11 that were like there on the day or had family members that were in the building or like were super emotionally connected to that event are the ones that are like allergic to any alternative theories.

• 2:07:08Speaker 03

  That was definitely the case.

• 2:07:10Danny Jones?

  Yeah. And the people that are more disconnected, who live maybe in the opposite side of the country or who were born later, they're the ones that are more open to like, ooh, there was fucking bombs.

• 2:07:18Speaker 03

  But that's also, that can be a fault. Where they're like, there's no way the second plane went in. There's no way there was any planes. And I'm like, no, I saw the fucking second plane. I saw the first plane and I saw them collapse. My, my whole thing with, with 9/11 was I wish George Bush had said, we're starting to rebuild the, the World Trade Center on September 12th. Does that shirt say Gavin? Hold David.

• 2:07:45Speaker 03

  We rebuild it. And then my goal would be for British people to go, there's no way that that ever happened. I mean, they've done, they've taken the bricks and they've done carbon dieting. And those bricks were the same bricks that were there in 1950. So the whole, and that's good.

• 2:08:03Danny Jones?

  It's a great accent.

• 2:08:04Speaker 03

  Thank you. I like that. Because I want the terrorists to go, fuck, these people don't even think we did that. Cause right now, it's this, you know, when you have like a bug in your eye and you twist a napkin and you're like, that's what it looks like now. And it was 13 billion dollars over budget. It was like 10 years past due date. So it's a giant testament to our incompetence. And the effectiveness of a terror attack that cost 50 grand. So it is a beautiful shrine to Islamic terrorism and how incredibly effective they can be. I mean, that's their Mecca. They should go there and pray at how awesome they are.

• 2:08:44Speaker 03

  That wasn't my idea. I want a new, and I said that to a farmer once and he's like, you want your fucking kid working in there? And I go, I don't care if it's a silo for rice. I don't care if we store used computers there. I don't care if it's populated. I just want it to exist. Cause it's a symbol that you can't, as a suicidal tendencies would say, you can't bring me down. But apparently we can be brought down.

• 2:09:10Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Yeah, I think it was a, a lot of things were true at the same time. I think we definitely wanted an excuse to go into the Middle East. And I think the, I mean, obviously there's a lot of shit that came out with like Israel, not Israeli, but um, the Saudi intelligence people were here, like they knew that there were Saudis here learning to fly, didn't give a fuck about learning how to land.

• 2:09:29Speaker 03

  Something crazy? Joe Biggs, Joe Biggs was a Proud Boy at January 6th. His father-in-law was at the training camp for the terrorists.

• 2:09:42Danny Jones?

  Which training camp?

• 2:09:43Speaker 03

  The, the flying school for whatever, one of those towel hats who did it.

• 2:09:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, there was one down here in.

• 2:09:48Speaker 03

  And he was like, I got a bad feeling about this guy. Ah, whatever.

• 2:09:52Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:52Speaker 03

  My instincts are probably wrong.

• 2:09:54Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:09:54Speaker 03

  And he's not feeling bananas about himself since then.

• 2:09:58Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:59Speaker 03

  But I, I think my theory, and I could be wrong, that, that's the beauty of, of. I'm, I'm glad that we're all skeptical. That's a good place to be. But, um, my theory is that, you know, the, the World Trade Center had been attacked before. They lost like two security guards. And I think George W. Bush was maybe, it was passed on from Clinton and he said, there's this guy Osama bin Laden. He's probably going to attack the World Trade Center, probably like kill four people and have a little fire. And then we can go destroy the Middle East for 10 years.

• 2:10:28Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:10:28Speaker 03

  And he's like, let's do it. And then when he's reading that children's book. Someone went up and was like, it actually ended up being like 3,000 fucking people. And he's like. Wow. Okay. So not three. That is a lot more than I had bargained for.

• 2:10:44Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:10:46Speaker 03

  Holy shit. And then we had a retarded war for.

• 2:10:50Danny Jones?

  Yep, forever. Yep. And I was thinking about the right and the left. They both want these retarded wars. They're, they're both, uh, complicit in these.

• 2:10:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, right and left, like.

• 2:11:01Danny Jones?

  Like it's like.

• 2:11:01Speaker 03

  Politicians.

• 2:11:02Danny Jones?

  You call it a uniparty, right?

• 2:11:03Speaker 03

  Netanyahu would love a war in Iran. Uh, all these rhinos would love a war in Iran. Like it's, it's hard to think of, of politicians who don't want global wars. Ron Paul, J D Vance, maybe.

• 2:11:18Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:11:19Speaker 03

  Like there's three.

• 2:11:20Danny Jones?

  And you would think like comparing Islam to Christianity, like these other countries, these Middle Eastern countries, they are all bound together by this. You got pissed? You're gonna fart? Oh, oh, wow. God damn.

• 2:11:39Speaker 03

  That was a joke. I have like a fart machine in my pants with a microphone and I push the button.

• 2:11:44Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 2:11:45Speaker 03

  Sounded like a fart, right?

• 2:11:46Danny Jones?

  It sounded just like a fart.

• 2:11:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, that, that's a lot of technology.

• 2:11:48Danny Jones?

  It smells like roses too.

• 2:11:49Speaker 03

  That's a thousand bucks. Oh, it sprays out a fake fart smell.

• 2:11:53Danny Jones?

  Oh, that's amazing.

• 2:11:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. 1,200 bucks that cost me.

• 2:11:58Speaker 03

  And the fart juice, the packets are 800 bucks each.

• 2:12:01Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:12:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:02Danny Jones?

  Where do you buy them?

• 2:12:03Speaker 03

  From my ass.

• 2:12:04Danny Jones?

  From your asshole.

• 2:12:06Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 2:12:08Speaker 03

  What were you saying?

• 2:12:09Danny Jones?

  I forgot. Oh.

• 2:12:11Speaker 03

  The warmongers.

• 2:12:12Danny Jones?

  Muslim. Well, the Muslim countries, they're all bound together by they're all, they, they all subscribe to the same ideology and religion. In America, it's not like that. It's more fractured. There's, you know, there's, it's, it's not the, I don't, I don't know them. I would be curious to know what is the, uh, the breakdown of religions in America?

• 2:12:31Speaker 03

  You can really red pilled me on this in his book Death of the West, which came out the same year of, as nine 11. And he's like, how the fuck do you fight someone where death is a victory?

• 2:12:41Danny Jones?

  Yes, exactly. That's the thing.

• 2:12:42Speaker 03

  We see coffins with American flags and it breaks 100% of Americans' hearts. I don't care if you're left wing, right wing. You see those coffins come out and you go,

• 2:12:53Speaker 03

  it, the Arab world sees that and they're like, fuck, it nailed it, dude.

• 2:12:57Danny Jones?

  We don't have any people that are so devout in their religiosity or their faith that they're willing to strap a bomb to their chest.

• 2:13:06Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 2:13:07Danny Jones?

  They do.

• 2:13:09Speaker 03

  Honey, that flu keeping you up?

• 2:13:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't got this.

• 2:13:12Speaker 03

  You need NyQuil Intense Flu.

• 2:13:14Speaker 05

  Undo your flu symptoms with NyQuil Intense Flu. The nighttime sniffling, aching, aching fever best sleep with a flu medicine. You do got this. Use as directed. Keep out of reach of children.

• 2:13:53Speaker 03

  Yep. How do you fight that? And we have uniforms.

• 2:13:56Danny Jones?

  Are you, are you aware of, of like Peter Thiel?

• 2:14:00Speaker 03

  I know him.

• 2:14:00Danny Jones?

  You know, you're friends with him?

• 2:14:01Speaker 03

  I had breakfast at his house. I almost shit my pants.

• 2:14:03Danny Jones?

  Gay, Christian billionaire.

• 2:14:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:14:05Danny Jones?

  And there, he is like hardcore Christian where he's now, there's articles about this that have been coming out, where he's holding these giant conferences in Silicon Valley, bringing all these folks in Silicon Valley in and just preaching Christianity. And trying to

• 2:14:22Speaker 03

  Great.

• 2:14:22Danny Jones?

  Trying to paint everything Silicon Valley is doing now with like this Christian lens.

• 2:14:28Speaker 03

  Fantastic. Is that bad?

• 2:14:29Danny Jones?

  You don't like that? I don't, I don't, I don't have no, I don't think it's bad or good. I just think it's interesting.

• 2:14:34Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, think of how many guys who go to prison and their lives are shit and then they, they start reading the Bible out of boredom.

• 2:14:43Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:43Speaker 03

  And they get their whole fucking lives together. My brother wasn't in jail, but he was, he was lost. And he, he started getting into the Bible and, you know, his marriage is fucking rock solid now. He's making money. So I think, I think the best way to save someone is the Bible.

• 2:15:04Speaker 03

  It's a great way to go. And you see these people who eschew it and they're like, we're having sober October. Yeah, that's Lent, dude. Oh, we're meditating.

• 2:15:13Danny Jones?

  Do you do the thing?

• 2:15:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's church.

• 2:15:14Danny Jones?

  Do you do the thing on your show where you paint the cross on your, on your forehead? Like the guys on Fox?

• 2:15:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I get my ashes every Lent.

• 2:15:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:20Speaker 03

  And then I don't drink, I don't drink whiskey or any, I don't drink hard liquor for Lent.

• 2:15:25Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:15:26Speaker 03

  I found a, a, a hole in the plot. You're allowed to have it on Sunday. So I sit there looking at my watch on Saturday night and when 11:59 rolls around, fucking Maker's Mark,

• 2:15:42Speaker 03

  and just get hammered from 12, I usually pass out by 12:10 because my immune system's down. But yeah, I do Lent. It's great. And what, what's great about Lent is it shows you what you're addicted to.

• 2:15:56Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 2:15:57Speaker 03

  Or no, no fap, right? No wanks.

• 2:16:00Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not allowed to jack off, right? You're a proud boy.

• 2:16:04Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:16:05Danny Jones?

  So you don't jack off, ever?

• 2:16:06Speaker 03

  Well, I may have fallen from grace once or twice, but the, the rule is you can ejaculate within a yard of your significant other.

• 2:16:13Danny Jones?

  A yard.

• 2:16:14Speaker 03

  A yard with her consent. So you can't jerk off while your wife's asleep, but say she's pregnant or menstruating, she could reach over and tickle your balls and you jerk off. You're still establishing a connection.

• 2:16:26Danny Jones?

  Wow, right. I see.

• 2:16:28Speaker 03

  But jerking off to porn is demonic. That woman.

• 2:16:32Danny Jones?

  Definitely not healthy.

• 2:16:32Speaker 03

  That woman was raped by her father and her uncle. The guy she's fucking is gay. They're both. That's just a fact.

• 2:16:41Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:16:41Speaker 03

  The men.

• 2:16:42Danny Jones?

  Guys in gay porn or guys in porn?

• 2:16:44Speaker 03

  Guys in straight porn are gay.

• 2:16:45Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:16:46Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:16:47Danny Jones?

  Ronald Jeremy is gay?

• 2:16:48Speaker 03

  Oh, well, that's a different generation.

• 2:16:50Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:16:50Speaker 03

  Modern porn. They're all on meth. And the analogy I always use, they're all meth. Yeah. That's how they last so long. So imagine a gay meth head was banging the victim of sexual assault on the road outside right now. And like 30 dudes just showed up wearing, oh, yeah, you like that? Yeah, you probably like that. Isn't that the most horrific thing you can conjure up outside a shop?

• 2:17:16Danny Jones?

  I don't think they're on meth, though.

• 2:17:18Speaker 03

  They're on meth, dude.

• 2:17:19Danny Jones?

  You've done Adderall. Adderall gives you like little like baby hard dick.

• 2:17:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, until you start fucking. Then it's a coconut smasher. Ask anyone, ask anyone, that's Adderall. Ask anyone.

• 2:17:29Danny Jones?

  Same thing with Coke. Coke may gives you like.

• 2:17:31Speaker 03

  Different. No, no, Coke, you're not getting it up. Meth, they fuck for days. That's AIDS, by the way. AIDS is for meth. Cause these will fuck for 40 hours straight. And I, I know a homo that got AIDS from that at a circuit party on meth. And I'm like. I go, what happened there? And he's like, oh, we fucked. It was like thirty six hours of straight fucking. I go, Craig, um, if two praying mantises went like this for thirty six hours, their bug dicks would be shredded.

• 2:18:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:05Speaker 03

  Like, go like this for thirty six hours.

• 2:18:07Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:18:07Speaker 03

  I'm gonna have a pustulent hole in my face with like, blood leaking out. It's not natural.

• 2:18:14Danny Jones?

  No.

• 2:18:15Speaker 03

  But, yeah, that's all part of, they're on meth. Meth is a fuck drug. You didn't know that?

• 2:18:20Danny Jones?

  I had no idea.

• 2:18:21Speaker 03

  Meth is for fucking.

• 2:18:22Danny Jones?

  I know that Nazis did a lot of meth.

• 2:18:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, they fucked the Jews pretty hard.

• 2:18:26Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Yeah. But then they lost, they ultimately lost the war, because they got too, they, they blitzed and they fucking ran out of meth and then they all were like, ramped up for weeks and then all of a sudden the meth ran out and then they were all like,

• 2:18:38Speaker 03

  We killed them. We killed, the Soviets, I guess, won, Stalin won that war.

• 2:18:44Speaker 03

  With just sheer numbers.

• 2:18:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:49Speaker 03

  This magic mine gives you a real grassy aftertaste for a while, right?

• 2:18:52Danny Jones?

  It does taste like, kinda like grass, doesn't it?

• 2:18:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18:54Danny Jones?

  But you, like, you wash it down with the beer and then you won't taste it.

• 2:18:56Speaker 03

  Okay. My fucking daughter.

• 2:18:58Danny Jones?

  I love cans.

• 2:18:59Speaker 03

  I started wearing my clothes, so I, I, I put on my windbreaker, my barracuda Harrington, and I'm on the plane, I'm like, what the fuck is? And I smell like a teenage girl. I've got her dumb, like, teen perfume all over, all over me. That's not a great story.

• 2:19:19Speaker 03

  And then she died this morning.

• 2:19:23Speaker 03

  I know you thought that story sucked till the ending, right?

• 2:19:25Danny Jones?

  Uh. Did you drink on the plane this morning? Did you start drinking early?

• 2:19:29Speaker 03

  Uh-uh.

• 2:19:29Danny Jones?

  No?

• 2:19:30Speaker 03

  No, I got here at like eleven, great bar next door, walked in, as I told you, they gave me a shot. And then the beauty of Proud Boys is, no matter where you are, it can be a ten buck two, and you're like, hey, guys, I got four hours to kill and I'm bored.

• 2:19:46Speaker 03

  Four trucks show up and guys are ready to rock.

• 2:19:48Danny Jones?

  Uh-huh.

• 2:19:49Speaker 03

  It's the best, especially in Florida. There must be a chapter every hundred yards here.

• 2:19:54Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:19:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:19:57Danny Jones?

  You get a chapter close to here?

• 2:19:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, five minutes from here.

• 2:20:00Danny Jones?

  Five minutes from here?

• 2:20:01Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:20:01Danny Jones?

  No way.

• 2:20:04Speaker 03

  It's great.

• 2:20:05Danny Jones?

  Do you think you'll ever get your social media back?

• 2:20:08Speaker 03

  Absolutely not.

• 2:20:09Danny Jones?

  Never.

• 2:20:09Speaker 03

  And I've talked to insiders that-

• 2:20:11Danny Jones?

  It's crazy that you can get Bannigan Kanye's on there.

• 2:20:13Speaker 03

  Right, well, I run a terrorist organization.

• 2:20:16Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah, I forgot you were labeled, but that was by the Canadians labeling you terrorist, right?

• 2:20:21Speaker 03

  Everyone's, here's the key with life, everyone is scared of getting fired.

• 2:20:26Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:20:26Speaker 03

  Like Jack Kevorkian was killing people, right? He was doing euthanasia.

• 2:20:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:32Speaker 03

  And no one cared, but then he went on 60 Minutes and he bragged and he was like, I do euthanasia, it's illegal. The FBI was like, dude, you're gonna get me fired. It's my job to make sure you don't do that. So he got arrested and put away.

• 2:20:45Danny Jones?

  Dreams for security.

• 2:20:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, you can't, I think most police work is like, if you shoot someone and you drag him into your house, just don't make me look bad. Like if you shoot someone in the back that's robbing your house and they fall on the driveway, I'm gonna get shit because I'm the captain of that particular precinct. But if you like drag them in and you wrestle with them and get blood on yourself, then good. And they don't care what's true or not. Most people just don't want to get fired.

• 2:21:16Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's very true.

• 2:21:18Speaker 03

  So-

• 2:21:19Danny Jones?

  Except for you, you don't give a fuck.

• 2:21:20Speaker 03

  I like getting fired. It's become my pastime.

• 2:21:23Danny Jones?

  You stay true to your art.

• 2:21:25Speaker 03

  Sure, yeah. Well, God has provided me with plenty of guardian angels because I'm,

• 2:21:32Speaker 03

  I think I'm making, I'm making up for the fact that at Vice, I was like, fuck it, just party and do coke and fuck tons of chicks. And that's a fun thing to do in your twenties, early twenties. And then I had kids and I was like, what the fuck? What a waste. Those party years, like when you have kids, you go, what was I doing? What a ridiculous pantomime that whole thing was.

• 2:21:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:21:58Speaker 03

  And now I've devoted myself to telling guys, put a ring on it, make a baby. What are you waiting for? You want her but with bigger tits? You've been, you've been with her for two years, dude.

• 2:22:09Danny Jones?

  I have a lot of friends from high school, most of them actually. Most, most of my friends, I'm, I really don't have many. Most of my friends that are like my real friends, I've, they've been my friends since like eighth grade. And a lot of them still don't have kids.

• 2:22:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:22:22Danny Jones?

  And they're like, they're pushing forty now.

• 2:22:24Speaker 03

  I think that is the trauma of divorce. They go, cause they always go, I'm glad my parents split up. They're fighting all the time. Yeah, no, you were deeply traumatized by that divorce. And you don't wanna mimic it. You don't think love exists.

• 2:22:39Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:22:39Speaker 03

  You don't think devotion exists.

• 2:22:41Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:22:41Speaker 03

  And you're scared you're gonna do to your kids what your parents did to you.

• 2:22:45Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:46Speaker 03

  So I don't wanna create kids.

• 2:22:47Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:22:48Speaker 03

  Why hurt them the way I was hurt? But when we were kids, you'd see the divorced kids and they're like, I got two sets of presents, man. I got dad's presents, mom presents.

• 2:22:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:22:57Speaker 03

  Sure, that's great when you're thirteen. But it spreads out and I, I swear to God, just like you, I look up my high school friends in the eighties and fifty percent of them have kids.

• 2:23:08Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:23:09Speaker 03

  That's not good. And people blame the Jews and they go, uh, oh, the Jews have taught us to hate ourselves. Okay, whatever.

• 2:23:16Danny Jones?

  Did they really blame the Jews for that?

• 2:23:18Speaker 03

  They blame the Jews for everything.

• 2:23:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:23:20Speaker 03

  I, I think divorce-

• 2:23:21Danny Jones?

  That's the thing, that's definitely a new thing.

• 2:23:23Speaker 03

  Divorce magically traumatized Gen X, uh, Gen X and down.

• 2:23:28Danny Jones?

  Divorce was trauma, uh, my parents divorced when I was really young and I never thought, I never wanted kids until my wife hooked me in.

• 2:23:37Speaker 03

  That's what I'm talking about.

• 2:23:38Danny Jones?

  I met my wife when she was, she, it was like the day after she turned nineteen.

• 2:23:44Danny Jones?

  And I was like somewhat successful for my, I was like twenty-three, maybe twenty-four.

• 2:23:49Speaker 03

  What were you doing then?

• 2:23:50Danny Jones?

  I was doing, I was doing documentaries, filming documentaries.

• 2:23:52Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:23:52Danny Jones?

  And like doing advertising, like making commercials and stuff like that. Um, cause I was like, I was like-

• 2:23:56Speaker 03

  We didn't cross paths.

• 2:23:57Danny Jones?

  I was like the poor kid who, uh- I was able to convince all my rich, because I had a lot of rich friends. And I was able to convince all of their parents to hire me to make commercials for their companies.

• 2:24:09Speaker 03

  Great.

• 2:24:10Danny Jones?

  And um, so I was making.

• 2:24:11Speaker 03

  And people would go, yeah, he had it handed to him. He had, he knew rich kids. Okay, you go make a commercial for uh, the rich people that he was handed to. You know what I mean?

• 2:24:22Danny Jones?

  A lot of the kids though, a lot of those kids with rich parents, they ended up, it didn't amount to anything.

• 2:24:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:24:27Danny Jones?

  Um, but I was like, I was making decent money in my early twenties. And then I met, I met her and I was like, what do you want to do when you grow up? She's like, I just want to be a mom. I want to raise kids. I'm like, oh, you fucking loser.

• 2:24:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, why, why give away what feminism gave you?

• 2:24:40Danny Jones?

  Like, you don't have any ambitions? You don't want to, you don't want to have a career? You don't want to be an entrepreneur? Like, that's, that's what I was thinking in my head. And then when we had our first kid and I realized how fucking amazing that was, how liberating that was to have like, somebody who dedicates every fiber of her being to want to create a good human.

• 2:25:01Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 2:25:02Danny Jones?

  Where I can keep doing my bullshit and not have to worry about it and not have to worry about raising a fucked up traumatized kid. Then I realized how fucking magical that was.

• 2:25:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, it's been taken away from us by all this bullshit hipster, left wing culture.

• 2:25:17Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:25:18Speaker 03

  And you make one and you go, what the fuck was I doing? I'm glad I did coke from nine PM to nine AM rather than make a life and go to a kid's baseball game. Like what if, and the coke night, you don't remember one second of it. It's gone.

• 2:25:35Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:25:35Speaker 03

  Meanwhile, my kids' baseball games, I, I could tell you, you know, that, that he didn't get a double because they threw it to home. So it was actually technically a single, though he did get on second.

• 2:25:46Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:25:48Speaker 03

  They've robbed us of that. And it was boomers mostly.

• 2:25:53Danny Jones?

  It was the boomers?

• 2:25:54Speaker 03

  Boomers invented divorce.

• 2:25:56Danny Jones?

  So it wasn't the Jews?

• 2:25:57Speaker 03

  Well, this is the problem, like.

• 2:26:02Speaker 03

  Jews are exceptional whites. You look at the Nobel Peace Prizes, you look at the Fields Medal in mathematics, you're going to see a wildly disproportionate number of Jews.

• 2:26:11Danny Jones?

  Why is that?

• 2:26:13Speaker 03

  Well, one reason might be in Jewish culture, they value intellectualism, especially Israelis. But like, in Arab culture, who's the toughest guy? You get the hottest chick. This is kinda true of Glaswegian culture too, where my parents are from. Cause my dad got a really hot wife, cause he was a brawler. But in Jewish culture, it's you, you're an academic, so you'll meet like a rabbi or a really smart Jew, and his wife will be a fucking smoke show. That's their thing. So what you end up breeding is low T, high IQ people.

• 2:26:47Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:26:48Speaker 03

  And uh...

• 2:26:49Danny Jones?

  That's interesting, low T, high IQ people.

• 2:26:51Speaker 03

  Yeah. Arabs are the opposite. They're low IQ, high T. Sorry. Which is what's so weird about the Palestinian Israeli conflict. Like you have these...

• 2:27:03Danny Jones?

  They're genetically the same fucking people.

• 2:27:05Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 2:27:07Danny Jones?

  There's been a study done, they're literally their ancestors the same.

• 2:27:12Speaker 03

  So a Palestinian will launch a rocket over to the Jew side, and the beauty, the ideal thing about terrorism is you go like this, and then the people over there discuss that for like a week. That's, that's what terrorism is. I just wanna do one little thing and make you all scared for months.

• 2:27:28Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:28Speaker 03

  So they'll launch a rocket there, and the Jews are like, "Well, what did it mean? Maybe we should have said more, blah, blah, blah." Meanwhile, an Arab, he just fucking like blow their head off, and they're like, "Whatever, I'll kill you." So they don't pontificate the way the Jews do. And I, I think we see that with um...

• 2:27:46Danny Jones?

  Well, that's because of, well...

• 2:27:49Danny Jones?

  Their low IQ, you think is because of the inbreeding, right?

• 2:27:51Speaker 03

  I think it's the culture of, they don't value intelligence in, in the Arab world.

• 2:27:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:56Speaker 03

  They value machismo.

• 2:27:58Danny Jones?

  Different, yeah, there's definitely different cultures, definitely different values, and I'm sure there's been an evolution of the gene pool over the years. But I know there, there was a study done, like a legitimate study, that proved that their genetics were exactly the same. Like they come from the same people, I think it's the Canaanites.

• 2:28:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, they come from the same people. But look at, like, ask a Palestinian what 111 plus 17 is.

• 2:28:23Speaker 03

  And Israelis are inventing pills that have cameras on them where you take it and then you watch your digestive tract. This is why I don't think Israel should receive any more money. And a lot of Israelis are the same way. They're like, we have cellphone technology, we have medical technology. We don't like the stigma, this money, it's only 3 billion, we don't want it. We got our own money going on. Like, Israel's not propped up by America. Israel has got its own shit going on.

• 2:28:54Danny Jones?

  Definitely, yeah. But we are sending them billions of dollars for their war, like, we're sending them tons of money.

• 2:28:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, stop. Stop.

• 2:29:01Danny Jones?

  And it's not like, like, online, you see, like you were saying, everyone paints it with, like, as in, like, the Jews are doing this genocide, it's all the Jews, and then you have all these people like Candace and, you know, a whole bunch of people around her on the internet where it's like, there's legitimate on X, there's like a huge fucking... I mean, I hate you calling people Nazis, but like, if you look at these people's profiles, they're hardcore.

• 2:29:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think, I think the real impetus behind that is anti-white racism.

• 2:29:28Danny Jones?

  But it's not like, but it's...

• 2:29:30Speaker 03

  At college campuses at least, the whole fuck Israel, free Palestine, that's anti-white racism. There's Sudan, there's Syria, there's a million Middle East conflicts that no one is remotely interested in.

• 2:29:44Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:29:45Speaker 03

  Yet, when there's a white-on-brown conflict, all of a sudden they give a fuck about foreign wars? I don't trust you. I think it's... And it's just proportionally perpetuated by secular Jews, the whole concept of fuck white people. So, you have these anti-white, white people, mostly, a lot of them are Jews too, the kids are Jews. Like, these Jews are sending, these secular Jews are sending their kids to Harvard, Yale, St. Andrews in Scotland, their kids are coming back going, fuck Israel. So, they've created a Gollum, and I don't think they know what to do with it. And I'm sitting here in my Jewish neighborhood going, you said it was me, you said it was the MAGA hats.

• 2:30:26Speaker 03

  It turns out it's not us, turns out it's your allies, overly-educated Marxists, refugees, Palestinians, blacks, all your heroes want you dead. And I've been sitting here just like this the whole time, and you kept putting Nazi signs on my lawn. Wrong, bad guy, fuckheads.

• 2:30:50Danny Jones?

  Well, yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of, uh, I've, I've seen, I've talked to a lot of, uh, Jews. I have a group of a lot of friends who are Jews and I've had people on here who are literally Jews from Israel who are like, they call themselves anti-Zionist Jews.

• 2:31:02Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:31:03Danny Jones?

  Because they don't agree with the Israeli government.

• 2:31:04Speaker 03

  No one understands that too, uh, in America, that you read like Israeli press and it reads like David Duke. There is like, there's super conservative Zionist Jews in, in Israel, but there's ones that want the wall taken down.

• 2:31:16Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:31:17Speaker 03

  They fucking hate this war. They love Palestine.

• 2:31:19Danny Jones?

  Right. It's like, I don't, it's like-

• 2:31:21Speaker 03

  It's much more wide range than here.

• 2:31:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah. It's like, it's like the war after nine eleven, like the Iraq war, like I'm an American, but that doesn't mean I want to be associated with Bush Cheney.

• 2:31:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:31:34Danny Jones?

  Like those people are-

• 2:31:35Speaker 03

  That's how they see Netanyahu. Gotta piss again.

• 2:31:37Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's how they see Netanyahu. Go piss.

• 2:31:39Speaker 03

  Where do you piss? You have a secret pisser?

• 2:31:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:41Speaker 03

  Whoa, fancy.

• 2:31:42Danny Jones?

  I do.

• 2:31:43Speaker 03

  I, I, I'm dubious of guys who are really angry at me for liking Jews because they kind of smell like Jews. Every time you like get to the bottom of some major-

• 2:31:54Danny Jones?

  They're suspicious of you for liking Jews.

• 2:31:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think they're Jews who are, they, they want to keep their enemies closer. So when you like see a real sting on like a white nationalist group, that leader tends to be secretly Jewish.

• 2:32:10Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:32:12Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 2:32:14Speaker 03

  Yeah. So don't trust like some super Nazi dude.

• 2:32:19Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:32:20Speaker 03

  Cause he wants to recruit Nazis so he can have his Nazis in his pocket and, you know.

• 2:32:27Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:32:28Speaker 03

  Keep your enemies close.

• 2:32:29Danny Jones?

  Hmm. Well, everything's an op nowadays.

• 2:32:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:32:35Danny Jones?

  Nothing's real anymore.

• 2:32:37Speaker 03

  Dude, fucking, I saw this thread on AI and it, it wasn't just OnlyFans girls that are making a million dollars that don't exist, but like a stand-up comedian going, I went to the zoo and it, they only had one animal there. It was a dog. It was a Shih Tzu.

• 2:32:58Speaker 03

  The guy was fake, the joke was fake. Like, everything was fake. Yeah. This is actually good news, though. Is it? Yes. Because we've become so addicted to our phones and OnlyFans and, and, uh, dating online, and then seeing the girl and she's ugly, whatever, that soon people are gonna be like, well, fuck the phone. I, I need to see you. I need to talk to you. Like, sales. The old days, in the seventies and eighties, a salesman would have to get on a plane, like Planes, Ranges and Automobiles. Right, right, right. And go and like, say, "This is my Budweiser cans. What do you think?" And pitch it. Mad Men. Yeah, like, or Chris Farley, right? Hmm. Like, you have to sell it. And now that everything is fake online, Zoom calls?

• 2:33:42Speaker 03

  Like, no, I need to see you in person. Yeah. I need to smell your pheromones and see if you're full of shit.

• 2:33:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think you're right about that. Tucker Carlson said that to me once. He was talking about some guy we both know, and he's like, "That guy's gay." And I go, "Uh, where the fuck did you get that from?" I've known him for twenty six- Tucker? Yeah, twenty-five years. And, uh, he goes, "I saw the way he kissed his wife, and I saw the way his daughter looked at him when he kissed his wife. Gay." And, uh, Tucker's very funny and raunchy outside of TV. Yeah. He's sort of like, uh- He's like, uh-

• 2:34:22Speaker 03

  He's sort of like Dave Portnoy kind of a guy, like- No, he seems more like a- Like a frat boy, kind of, like a, like a- Who's Eastbound and Down? Kenny Powers? He's like a smart Kenny Powers. No, he's nothing like Kenny Powers. Yes, he is. He's the fucking opposite of Kenny Powers. So he goes, "That guy's gay." And I'm like, "How do you know?" And he, and he goes, "I saw the way-" And I go, "That's not evidence, dude. What, he kissed his wife? You saw him for one second?" And he goes, "We've been around for a quarter of a million years, okay? If someone wants to kill us, we sense it. The ones who can't sense it, they're extinct." So we meet people face to face, we have smells, we can tell who wants to fuck us, who wants to kill us, who isn't a threat, who could be a good pal. That's evolution.

• 2:35:07Speaker 03

  We're constantly, like, smelling, we're like dogs. Yeah. Smelling people. That's funny. So when I say this guy's gay, I'm not just basing it on one second, I'm basing it on two hundred fifty thousand years. Yeah. Well, Tucker, that's funny coming from him, because- Calm down, dude. He doesn't believe in evolution. He believes that evolution's fake. In what sense?

• 2:35:24Danny Jones?

  I don't know, he said it on Joe Rogan. He's like, evolution? Huh? We believe that?

• 2:35:28Speaker 03

  Well, there's, there's, there's nuance to that, right? Like, there's people who say giraffes have tall necks because the ones with short necks got less food. But then there's the creationists that say God made short giraffes, tall giraffes, super tall giraffes, and these guys died out. I don't know, it seems like six and one half to the, half a dozen of the internet. Can I get another fucking beer, please?

• 2:35:50Danny Jones?

  Yeah, grab another beer.

• 2:35:53Speaker 03

  He's a great guy, Tuck.

• 2:35:54Danny Jones?

  Did you see his interview with Putin?

• 2:35:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:35:58Danny Jones?

  See, I love the part where Putin was ribbing him about trying to apply for the CIA. Tried to apply for a job at the CIA.

• 2:36:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:36:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:36:07Danny Jones?

  I got a lot of friends who think Tucker is an op.

• 2:36:11Speaker 03

  Maybe. The, the thing about these ops is-

• 2:36:15Danny Jones?

  Everyone thinks everyone's an op on the internet.

• 2:36:17Speaker 03

  Right, but you gotta look at what they've done. Like, say Charlie Kirk was a Fed, right? The, the, good he's done for red pilling young people? I don't care if he works with Satan and goes back to hell every night. Like, we win.

• 2:36:34Speaker 03

  He's red pilled, I'm gonna say, millions of people. Millions of young men.

• 2:36:41Speaker 03

  So if you're a Fed, then you're doing a real bad job.

• 2:36:49Speaker 03

  And Tucker too, like, the, the government, the federal government is definitely pro-Israel. Tucker is pretty anti-Israel. He's very Pat Buchanan, paleoconservative.

• 2:36:59Danny Jones?

  Definitely, especially recently.

• 2:37:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:37:04Danny Jones?

  It's just interesting seeing like his podcast and all the people that are going on his podcast now. And like, you know, he's doing all these like, like woo woo topics, like talking about UFOs and like, angels and demons and child traffickers. It's like, it's completely like, kinda like a, a way, like a, he's going on a way different road than he was going on when he was on Fox, which is understandable to an extent.

• 2:37:23Speaker 03

  I don't wanna toot my own horn.

• 2:37:25Danny Jones?

  They're not controlling his own.

• 2:37:25Speaker 03

  But I did say- Back when he was at Fox, I go, I sent him the data and the data is people will pay, 7% of the people who watch you for free will pay.

• 2:37:36Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:37:37Speaker 03

  I go, you're getting like 3 million views.

• 2:37:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:37:40Speaker 03

  7% of 3 million is over $100. I don't know the exact math. Um, it's time to, I'm not saying he quit Fox because of me, but I, I, I think I helped him realize how, and, and I got this from Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan said to me, when you have a substantial following, it's stupid not to charge and let other people get rich off you. Like even YouTube, why are you getting all my fucking money?

• 2:38:10Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:38:11Speaker 03

  So if you can get up to like even 100,000 people who want to hear what you have to say.

• 2:38:15Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:38:16Speaker 03

  It's time to fucking, yeah. Like where is, are you just YouTube?

• 2:38:21Danny Jones?

  YouTube, Spotify.

• 2:38:24Speaker 03

  So you're like the second they don't like you, which could be this podcast.

• 2:38:27Danny Jones?

  This could be it.

• 2:38:28Speaker 03

  This could be the last one.

• 2:38:29Danny Jones?

  This could, this might very well be the last one.

• 2:38:31Speaker 03

  Sword of Damocles like.

• 2:38:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:38:33Speaker 03

  I decided no one can hear you anymore.

• 2:38:35Danny Jones?

  Right. Right. And if I was like you, I would just not give a fuck and let them ban me. And I got kids to feed. I have to, I have to, I have to bend the knee to the totalitarian.

• 2:38:45Speaker 03

  I've seen your views. I wouldn't be here if your views went good.

• 2:38:47Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 2:38:47Speaker 03

  You, you could pay your bills with a subscription service.

• 2:38:50Danny Jones?

  Well, we have Patreon. Ever heard of Patreon?

• 2:38:53Speaker 03

  I'm familiar with Patreon.

• 2:38:54Danny Jones?

  It's where people go to watch the uncensored shit.

• 2:38:56Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:38:57Danny Jones?

  You're banned from Patreon?

• 2:38:58Speaker 03

  Of course, dude.

• 2:38:59Speaker 04

  What? I didn't even know that was.

• 2:39:01Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm banned from Mondays. When I go to bed at, at night on Sunday, I wake up, it's Tuesday morning. I have no idea how that happened.

• 2:39:13Danny Jones?

  Did, did all, all these bans happen on the same day?

• 2:39:15Speaker 03

  Yes, October 12th, 2018.

• 2:39:17Danny Jones?

  So they all got together and said, let's ban Gavin.

• 2:39:19Speaker 03

  It was before the midterms, they were looking, maybe I didn't finish that story. It was before the midterms, they were looking for right wing violence. Uh, Mike told me to bring some pillows, the Jew I fired for being a Nazi. Uh, we left the pillows at the studio, 17 second fight, four years in prison for Max and John, and I became persona non grata overnight.

• 2:39:43Speaker 03

  I was a rock star in the suburbs cuz in the suburbs, they're all nerds. And they're like, oh, you're from New York City. Like, my kids were all born in New York City.

• 2:39:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:52Speaker 03

  So we were all very popular. And then one day, my daughter was like eating lunch alone, literally within 24 hours. And you know what's funny about it? They're like, let's say my daughter's name is Margaret, which it isn't. Margaret's dad wants Maria to be deported. Like, their fear was their maids. In rich, white suburbs, they love diversity of servants. That's why they always go, what, you don't like diversity? You could have Somali food one night, you could have Mexican food the other night, you can have... So you're talking about a variety of people serving you.

• 2:40:25Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:40:26Speaker 03

  It's for the elites.

• 2:40:27Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:40:27Speaker 03

  Diversity. It's a diversity of servants.

• 2:40:30Danny Jones?

  Yeah. I think you're totally right about that.

• 2:40:34Danny Jones?

  Um, you think you and Shane will ever, uh, get back together, be friends again?

• 2:40:40Speaker 03

  Absolutely not. Never. Fuck no. No.

• 2:40:48Speaker 03

  I mean, it's so extreme. It would be funny. It would be like, it would be like Jesus meeting Satan.

• 2:40:54Danny Jones?

  Do you ever like have a, do you ever like think like late at night one day, be like, man, it'd be so nice to just throw the water under the bridge, Budweiser under the bridge?

• 2:41:03Speaker 03

  I sometimes have dreams like that, actually. I sometimes have dreams where Sarush and I and Shane are friends. And then I wake up and go, bleh.

• 2:41:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I have one, I only have one friend like that, that completely burned the bridge, that we never talked to again. Really close friends. And, uh, we actually became not friends recording a podcast.

• 2:41:22Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:41:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:41:23Speaker 03

  What was the beef about?

• 2:41:24Danny Jones?

  The beef was about, we were doing a podcast with a guy who, uh, was explaining that he believes racism isn't real. And my good friend from high school.

• 2:41:35Speaker 03

  I kind of believe that. Well, it depends. That's a subjective way to phrase it, but whatever.

• 2:41:39Danny Jones?

  He says it doesn't exist in America. There's no such thing as racism in America.

• 2:41:42Speaker 03

  It's anti-white racism.

• 2:41:43Danny Jones?

  Is what he was saying.

• 2:41:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 2:41:45Danny Jones?

  And he goes, and he was explaining how, uh, his wife, who is Filipino, her mom wasn't allowed to drink at certain water fountains. You know, back in the day, and there was segregation, like there's Jim Crow, like there obviously has been racism in America in the past. And there sure is absolutely echoes of it today still. And he was like, no, there's not. And they were going back and forth. And then my friend, who was sitting right there. He, uh, he said, you know what? I can't be here anymore. And he got up and tried to walk away. And then the guy was sitting here was like, what are you going, what are you walking away for? I was like, what are you doing? We're just having a conversation, blah, blah, blah. And my friend, who's extremely, you know, artsy fartsy graphic designer, liberal dude, married to a Filipino lady.

• 2:42:25Danny Jones?

  He was like, no, fuck you. And this guy was like, super jacked, like six foot five, ex, uh, military guy.

• 2:42:32Speaker 03

  Like me.

• 2:42:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:42:33Speaker 03

  Same guy.

• 2:42:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah. And, um,

• 2:42:37Danny Jones?

  my friend's standing back there and he turns around and he goes, he goes, fuck you. He said, and they, the exact thing he called him, I remember it like it was yesterday. He said, you're a fucking backwards UFO believing piece of shit military asshole. Right, right in his face.

• 2:42:54Speaker 03

  The big guy or the big guy said that to the small guy?

• 2:42:56Danny Jones?

  My nerd friend said that to the big guy.

• 2:42:58Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 2:42:59Danny Jones?

  And he, and the big guy got up, threw him to the ground. My friend got into the.

• 2:43:02Speaker 03

  Here, like right here?

• 2:43:03Danny Jones?

  Right there. Knocked the camera over.

• 2:43:05Speaker 03

  Is this all on camera?

• 2:43:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I never released it.

• 2:43:07Speaker 03

  Oh, you gotta release it, dude. That's gold.

• 2:43:09Danny Jones?

  I didn't want it. Yeah, it's gold. Right. If I wanted the views, I could get them, but I didn't, I just, it didn't.

• 2:43:13Speaker 03

  Get them.

• 2:43:14Danny Jones?

  It felt, it felt gross. And he was in the fetal position like this, while this guy is standing over him, about to beat the living fuck out of him. I pulled the big guy off of my friend and he eventually got out. So me and my other buddy who, my, actually, I forgot to mention, I had my other buddy here. We were all three really good friends from high school. We went and grabbed a 24 pack of beer, went to his house, tried to like talk him down, be like, yo, it's, it's all right, bro. Everything's cool. Don't worry about it, whatever. He calls me, after that, the next morning he calls me, he's like, hey, we're done. We can't be friends anymore.

• 2:43:44Speaker 03

  Yeah. You know what's going on here? Humiliation. He was so fucking embarrassed. And he's never been in a fight before.

• 2:43:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:51Speaker 03

  He, well, let me guess, he has no brothers.

• 2:43:53Danny Jones?

  He has a big brother, yeah. He has a big brother.

• 2:43:58Speaker 03

  Was the big brother around or?

• 2:44:01Danny Jones?

  Uh, his big brother was in prison for like seven years.

• 2:44:03Speaker 03

  Okay, so was his big brother in his life? Cause I've noticed when you play fight with guys who don't have big brothers, they get like real fucking violent.

• 2:44:13Danny Jones?

  Right. No, he had never been like a legitimate fight before. Like that, I mean, you can tell because if, if he would have done that to a guy at a bar, he would have got the living shit beat out of him.

• 2:44:25Speaker 03

  Which guy, the wimp or the?

• 2:44:26Danny Jones?

  The wimp.

• 2:44:26Speaker 03

  Big guy.

• 2:44:27Danny Jones?

  If you point in some big, what, some guy who's obviously has a hundred pounds on you, is like jacked out of his mind on steroids and is like an ex-military guy. You don't call him a backwards, piece of shit military asshole, you're gonna get curb stomped.

• 2:44:41Speaker 03

  The worst you do with those kind of guys is like, alright, alright. You're the big tough guy, I get it. Jim Norton said to, uh, Jesse Ventura, he was like, okay, you're Jesse Ventura, you're the tough guy, whatever, whatever. He wasn't like, what you gonna do, bitch?

• 2:45:02Speaker 03

  Right. Yeah, he's embarrassed.

• 2:45:06Danny Jones?

  But like I still think about it, my friend, all the time. I'm like, man, I'm like, we were like brothers.

• 2:45:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a weird thing with dudes, man. When you split up like that.

• 2:45:15Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:45:17Speaker 03

  And girls too. It's not like, girls don't fucking have a best friend forever that they lose for some, weird, like my, my wife lost all her friends because of Proud Boys.

• 2:45:26Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 2:45:26Speaker 03

  And, uh, she'll, she's tra- like she's, she, she has PTSD now, like, she's not interested in friends. And I'm like, uh, our neighbors won a, uh, an auction where we get to go to an Italian dinner together and they have four tickets. And she's like, yeah, I don't wanna.

• 2:45:43Danny Jones?

  Really get a root canal.

• 2:45:44Speaker 03

  She's happy. She started boxing and stuff.

• 2:45:46Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:45:47Speaker 03

  So she's, she's, her head's screwed on straight, but she doesn't like blowjobs enough unfortunately, but, um.

• 2:45:52Danny Jones?

  She doesn't like giving them.

• 2:45:53Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, she doesn't get them. She doesn't have a penis.

• 2:45:55Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:45:56Speaker 03

  But, uh.

• 2:45:56Danny Jones?

  That's nice. That's good.

• 2:45:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's one of my favorite things about her, actually.

• 2:46:01Speaker 03

  I, I write that out on our anniversary card. Still loving that you don't have a penis.

• 2:46:07Speaker 03

  Those are my pet peeve when it comes to lovemaking.

• 2:46:10Danny Jones?

  Oh God, that's fucking funny.

• 2:46:12Speaker 03

  Uh, but it is interesting how these couples, you know, these friendships split. And it's never over anything real. I mean, with Vice, we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars.

• 2:46:22Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:46:22Speaker 03

  So I, it's fair that we want to murder each other and I.

• 2:46:25Danny Jones?

  Right, I would, I would give up a friendship for a hundred million.

• 2:46:27Speaker 03

  I hate those guys, yeah. But, uh.

• 2:46:30Danny Jones?

  But you got paid out good though, right?

• 2:46:31Speaker 03

  I did pretty good.

• 2:46:32Danny Jones?

  You were a third of the company, right? And the company was valued at at least, what, a hundred million dollars back then?

• 2:46:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:46:37Danny Jones?

  At least, probably more than that.

• 2:46:38Speaker 03

  Sure, and I've made, I mean, I had an ad agency after that that made a ton of money. We sold it to Havas. And then with the, the subscription service, it's 40,000 subscribers paying $10 a month. Cause we merged.

• 2:46:51Danny Jones?

  Today?

• 2:46:52Speaker 03

  Anthony Kumia, yeah.

• 2:46:53Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:46:54Speaker 03

  And he gets half of that, but, uh, we do very well with that. But like, most of my money just sits in the bank. Like my dad offered me his apartment in Florida yesterday. Cause he thinks he's dying and I'm like, you know, eventually. And I'm like, okay, does that hurt my, like, is that gonna affect my taxes? I don't sure, I'm not sure I want your apartment. In Florida.

• 2:47:19Danny Jones?

  Well, there's definitely less taxes in Florida than in New York.

• 2:47:21Speaker 03

  Being dirt poor sucks.

• 2:47:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:23Speaker 03

  But once you get to like.

• 2:47:25Danny Jones?

  It's just as stressful.

• 2:47:26Speaker 03

  Over a hundred grand. We're all basically the same. Like Jeff Bezos is on a fancy yacht, that's great. I don't think, like, you can rent a boat for the day. You can, you can.

• 2:47:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:38Speaker 03

  You can spend a thousand bucks renting a boat. You know what I mean? I, I, it would be cool to have a private jet, but you can buy first class tickets.

• 2:47:46Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:47Speaker 03

  So I'm not denying that poverty is a bummer, but once you get to like middle class, eh.

• 2:47:54Speaker 03

  Eh.

• 2:47:55Danny Jones?

  So you could have like a million bucks and live like you had a hundred million bucks.

• 2:47:58Speaker 03

  Well, my, some of my, my most prized possession is my 2000 Jaguar. It's an XJR. It's, uh, worth $17,000.

• 2:48:10Speaker 03

  If I totaled it, Geico would probably pay me seven. It's not considered valuable and I fucking love that thing.

• 2:48:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:48:19Speaker 03

  It's the last of good looking cars before they started turning into cough drops.

• 2:48:26Speaker 03

  What's they all are?

• 2:48:26Danny Jones?

  What year was it again?

• 2:48:27Speaker 03

  Two thousand.

• 2:48:28Danny Jones?

  Two thousand?

• 2:48:29Speaker 03

  Look up that, two thousand Jaguar XJR.

• 2:48:32Danny Jones?

  Type it in, let's see what it looks like. What color is it?

• 2:48:33Speaker 03

  Black, all cars should be black.

• 2:48:35Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:48:36Speaker 03

  There it is. That's my babes. I call it Jesus, cuz I totaled it twice.

• 2:48:42Danny Jones?

  Black Jesus.

• 2:48:43Speaker 03

  Look at that fucking thing.

• 2:48:44Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that thing is pretty sick.

• 2:48:45Speaker 03

  Jaguars look like absolute shit now.

• 2:48:49Danny Jones?

  Well, they're all electric.

• 2:48:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, or even like-

• 2:48:52Danny Jones?

  They have the, they have that electric Jaguar that makes the fake sounds, the fake exhaust.

• 2:48:57Speaker 03

  What's worse than that?

• 2:48:58Danny Jones?

  It plays the music, it plays the sound effects.

• 2:49:00Speaker 03

  We've uninvented shoes, we're going back in time.

• 2:49:03Danny Jones?

  Why do you eat Crocs so much?

• 2:49:05Speaker 03

  Why don't you?

• 2:49:07Danny Jones?

  Cuz they're convenient.

• 2:49:09Speaker 03

  Oh my god, are you washing your boat? If you're not washing your boat, you're not wearing Crocs. At, at, at the airport, we're at seventy percent Croc rate. In the South Bronx with the blacks, they're at, they just, this month, they hit one hundred percent Croc rate.

• 2:49:27Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:49:28Speaker 03

  One hundred percent. Like, it's Friday night, you're going out with your wife, not that blacks have wives, but fucking-

• 2:49:35Danny Jones?

  Not that blacks have wives, Jesus Christ.

• 2:49:38Speaker 03

  Everywhere you fucking go, blacks are wearing fucking Crocs. And not just blacks, my kids, everyone, their friends.

• 2:49:45Danny Jones?

  I know a guy who's like a four hundred pound, uh, New York, Brooklyn Jew, who now lives in Florida. Guys, he's probably, he has like five hundred million dollars worth of real estate, he's like a slumlord. And, uh, he's so fat, all he can wear is Crocs. He's so fat-

• 2:50:01Speaker 03

  That's what we hear. Shit, I might have to get to the airport, bro.

• 2:50:04Danny Jones?

  What time is it? Five eighteen? Okay, alright, let's wrap it up.

• 2:50:08Speaker 03

  Uh, my flight's at, uh-

• 2:50:10Danny Jones?

  Time's it leave?

• 2:50:10Speaker 03

  Seven.

• 2:50:11Danny Jones?

  Seven, okay, yeah, well-

• 2:50:12Speaker 03

  I gotta go now.

• 2:50:13Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:50:14Speaker 03

  I gotta go now!

• 2:50:16Danny Jones?

  Let's wrap it up. All right, that's all. Tell people where they can watch your, uh, stuff on YouTube, or not YouTube, I'm sorry.

• 2:50:22Speaker 03

  Censored.tv, you cannot watch me on, uh, shit, I'm late. You cannot watch me on anything but censored.tv, that's why I'm there.

• 2:50:30Danny Jones?

  Well, you'll be able to watch you, there's interviews with you on YouTube, other people have done. Which is nice, at least you're not censored in that way.

• 2:50:35Speaker 03

  Are there?

• 2:50:36Danny Jones?

  A few.

• 2:50:37Speaker 03

  Maybe, yeah. Okay.

• 2:50:39Danny Jones?

  Um, censored.tv. I'll link it.

• 2:50:42Speaker 03

  Thanks for having me, Guy. Great show, fun times.

• 2:50:45Danny Jones?

  Of course, thanks for coming. Goodnight, world.

• 2:50:49Speaker 00

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