#380 - Georges St-Pierre Reveals Truth on UFO Encounter, Bob Lazar & the Pyramids

Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Georges St. Pierre is a retired mixed martial artist who became a double champion in the UFC, holding belts in both the welterweight and middleweight divisions. He is widely considered to be one of the best fighters in MMA history. SPONSORS https://meetfabric.com/danny - Join thousands who trust Fabric to help protect their family. https://irestore.com/dannyjones - Use code DANNYJONES for huge savings on the iRestore Elite. https://amentara.com/go/dj - Use code DJ22 for 22% off. https://butcherbox.com/danny - Get chicken breast or top sirloin for a year OR ground beef for life, PLUS $20 off. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off. EPISODE LINKS https://gspofficial.com https://www.instagram.com/georgesstpierre FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - WWE vs. MMA 04:07 - Conor McGregor 06:48 - UFC card at the White House 16:04 - Artificial Intelligence 19:25 - Bill Clinton 23:05 - Meeting Bob Lazar 28:14 - Sleep paralysis vs. alien abduction 32:43 - Georges' UFO sighting 39:08 - Jeremy Corbell's footage of alien orbs 45:52 - Eisenhower's warning on the Military Industrial Complex 57:46 - Performance enhancing drugs 1:05:04 - How UFC fighters cheat drug tests 1:09:58 - What training camp is like for UFC fighters 1:18:36 - Georges' fitness & diet regimen 1:37:18 - Visiting the pyramids 1:43:34 - Egyptian vases debunked 1:52:45 - The Greek Fire weapon 2:00:41 - What separates champions 2:10:55 - Jiu-Jitsu 2:17:08 - Precognition, dreams & telepathy tapes 2:29:07 - Georges' new podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Speaker 01

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• 1:07Speaker 02

  Growing up, I wanted to become a WWE wrestler. MMA did not exist. I wanted, but I'm too small. I'm not big enough. At the time, they were big. All the wrestlers were minimum 200, maybe 30 pounds and plus. Yeah, now it changes. Now they want sometime more athletic guys, maybe smaller. But before, they were all big guys. Heavy big guys. Like, it was, I didn't have the physique. I could have maybe got on steroids and get there, but I didn't want to, I didn't want to take the risk, you know?

• 1:41Danny Jones?

  Oh my God, yeah, and they, I mean, they encouraged the steroids, all the different steroids. And those dudes were so, I've heard stories, because I've spent a lot of time around Hulk and stuff. And like, I've heard so many stories from him and the other guys about just like all the explicit drug use and like, not just the steroids, but they would have to be on painkillers because they were dealing with like serious chronic like back issues and hip issues all the time and like.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  They're incredible athletes. I mean, the level of. Stunt that they got put put in is unbelievable like the the gravity doesn't play the same on a guy who's weighs a two hundred fifty pound and a guy who's a hundred fifty pound.

• 2:20Danny Jones?

  Like Andre the Giant.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  Oh, hey, man, I'll I remember when Hulk gonna lift them up, you know, they I don't know if you've seen the documentary on TV. It's unbelievable.

• 2:29Danny Jones?

  It's insane.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  He wasn't.

• 2:31Danny Jones?

  Lifting the stinky giant.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  He he didn't know before he actually lift like I'm like a few second before he actually lift them up that it was going to he he was going to do it because it wasn't he wasn't planned. You know, when he when you talk about it is Andre the Giant was was in a bad mood and he let Hulk lift him up and he sort of passed the torch.

• 2:55Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  It's it's incredible. The whole story behind of what happened, it's it's unbelievable.

• 3:01Danny Jones?

  It really is, bro. And the fact that Andre the Giant was drinking like three twenty four packs of beer before a match, too. It's like crazy. The guy that he was constantly just constantly drinking beers. And have you seen the like the photo of him holding a can of beer?

• 3:18Speaker 02

  Oh, it's insane. Yeah.

• 3:19Danny Jones?

  He's holding it and it's like it's like from here to here on his on the palm of his hand. It's just.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was French, Andre, Andre Lejeune.

• 3:26Danny Jones?

  Yes, yeah, man.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  From France and very very popular and I'm from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. So he was he he he used to be a villain for a part of a big part of his career. But then where I'm from, he was always the good guy, you know, people love to they love to love the villain, you know.

• 3:45Danny Jones?

  Yeah, man.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  Because he was, you know, he was French or.

• 3:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah, and I think Hulk like really injured himself when he lifted Andre on in that match.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:53Danny Jones?

  Something happened. I I don't remember if it was his if it was his hip or if it was his back. But I think he needed to get one of his first surgeries right after that.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  I know that during that match, Andre was actually injured. He had a back injury, so he couldn't he couldn't do much. And uh he he he wasn't sure. So he took he took he took it for the team, you know, like uh. It must it must have been very painful because he's like some something like five hundred pound to be lifted up and slam, you know, like.

• 4:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  Like gravity doesn't play the same for him that uh for for for myself, you know?

• 4:27Danny Jones?

  Yeah, man.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:29Danny Jones?

  It's a different world now.

• 4:30Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Like uh Shawn Michaels, man, the Bret Hart, you know, these guys were my favorite. It was insane. I love Shawn Michael because he was the perfect villain at at one point, you know, he was the guy that everybody loved to hate. You know?

• 4:45Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  And he was very good to sell his opponent shot, to make his opponent look good, which is very important. To to to be a good wrestler, it's you need to make your partner look good. That's like an exchange. I make you look good, you make me look good.

• 5:01Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  And I think a lot of these guys, they have a big influence on what I do in MMA. If you look at, for example, Conor McGregor, even, you know, like. All the guys at Trash Talk, you know, a lot of a lot of them were inspired by those wrestlers.

• 5:15Danny Jones?

  Hmm. Yeah, they really, especially Conor did a really good job of of building up the theatrics of it. And selling it and just being just such a good trash talker. Like the build up to that Conor McGregor Floyd Mayweather fight was like one of the most insane. Uh media spectacles of my lifetime, I think.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, you you you had this gift, Conor, of of this unique gift. That I think he was the best at to in in the world of MMA to to make people interesting about the fight, you know?

• 5:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  Like I think it was uh, I can't remember who said, I think is it Mohamed Ali says, love me, hate me, but don't ignore me. Or or you know, like, like he was that guy, you know what I mean? You you you needed to have, you had an opinion on on Conor McGregor, whether you like him or you hate him.

• 6:04Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  He doesn't, you wanna see what's gonna happen, you know?

• 6:08Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Do you think he'll ever fight again?

• 6:11Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  The question is, I believe if he fights again, will he perform as well as he did? It's hard because he, you know, now he, he doesn't need the money.

• 6:25Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 6:26Speaker 02

  He's very wealthy. It's hard when you're wealthy to sort of put yourself back into, you know, into that mindset.

• 6:33Danny Jones?

  Right. Have that hungry, the hungry dog runs faster.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've, I've done it myself. So I know what I'm talking about, you know? When you're, you wanna, wanna come back after a few years when, you know, you don't need the money, but you, you want to, to do it for the right reason. It's hard, you know?

• 6:49Danny Jones?

  Hmm. Yeah, it's gotta be, it's gotta be tough. And, you know, especially when, you know, I'm sure it's getting, people are getting a lot better. Like the younger guys coming up are, are getting a lot better. And it's, he's been off for so long. I'm sure he kind of like lose stuff. I don't know how much he trains.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  He, he, it looks to me like he gained a lot of weight because he, he did that movie Roadhouse.

• 7:11Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 7:12Speaker 02

  With Ja- Jake Gyllenhaal.

• 7:13Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah, he looked fucking.

• 7:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, he looked big. He looked like 200 pounds. But you know, sometime camera can play tricks on your, on your mind.

• 7:21Danny Jones?

  Get on that gas, baby.

• 7:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. He used to, he used to compete at 145. Now if he went up to 200 pound.

• 7:28Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 7:29Speaker 02

  I'm sure, I mean, if he fought at 155, but I'm sure he won't be able to, to go back that low. You know, so if he, if he fights again, it will be, I think at 170. It has to be because he, he gained, he's, he's much bigger than he used to.

• 7:43Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Wasn't he supposed to? Wasn't there one like scheduled or something?

• 7:46Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 7:46Danny Jones?

  White House? That was last year. Oh, oh, oh, the White House.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  There was rumor of him fighting at the White House.

• 7:51Danny Jones?

  Yes, that's what it was. Is that, is that still on or is that?

• 7:55Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know. There was a lot of.

• 7:57Danny Jones?

  What's the update on that?

• 7:58Speaker 02

  There, there was a lot of, a lot of guys that were like Connor was one of them. John, I, I thought John would be, be on the White House, but now that the, the card just got officially announced. I'm actually gonna be there because I'm cornering, uh, Amon Zahabi. He's fighting Sean O'Malley.

• 8:14Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah?

• 8:15Speaker 02

  So what they did, it seems to me like they, they, they choose one fighter that represent United States and a fighter who's from elsewhere in every fight of the card.

• 8:26Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  So you have Justin Gaethje against, um. Elias Stuporia, Cyril Gane was from France against Perera, who is, I think he's from Brazil, or I don't know if he still live in Brazil or he live in America. But yeah, that's what they did. It's the best card of their year.

• 8:45Danny Jones?

  That's gonna be, that's gonna be nuts. When is that supposed to be?

• 8:49Speaker 02

  June 14, if I remember correctly.

• 8:53Danny Jones?

  14 of this year.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  It could be a different, I think it's June 14, yeah.

• 8:59Danny Jones?

  That's gonna be crazy. How?

• 9:02Speaker 02

  I think that.

• 9:03Danny Jones?

  How, how, how do we have, how is America gonna pull off a UFC fight on the White House lawn in the middle of all the chaos going on in the world right now?

• 9:11Speaker 02

  Bro, I, I just, one thing I can tell you is that.

• 9:15Danny Jones?

  We got 16 wars going on and pedophiles rings being exposed, but.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  That's the only time in history is gonna happen, I think. I don't think it will ever happen again. I mean, who else will do that? Like, I mean, I mean.

• 9:27Danny Jones?

  I think what they should do is they should get all of the billionaires who were exposed in the Epstein files and have them do death matches.

• 9:36Speaker 02

  Like Coliseum style.

• 9:37Danny Jones?

  Like celebrity death match, but you got file death match. They all have to go in until, until there's no one left.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  And then afterwards, the crowd would decide up or down. That's right. I liked your idea. I think they should, they should give it a try.

• 9:49Danny Jones?

  Oh my God, that would be so fucking crazy, dude. Yeah, the world, it's, it's, the world is crazy right now, bro.

• 9:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:57Danny Jones?

  It's too much. It's too, it's too much to, to process. Just the news feed alone.

• 10:01Speaker 02

  Do you, do you believe everything that is been said on, on TV by the media?

• 10:07Danny Jones?

  I don't watch the TV. I, I don't watch, Fox and CNN and that shit, I don't watch. That's, that's just narrative driven bullshit hiding behind the word, the word news. I just try to pay attention as much as I can to smart people who know about this stuff that do podcasts.

• 10:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:24Danny Jones?

  And I, you know, I pay attention to like the journalists on X, you know, the good journalists that are on X posting on there, because they, they can be very like. Like stuff that's breaking right now will often be on X and stuff like that. And people can corroborate it and call it out for bullshit. You can see the context, you know, if you scroll down, you can read like the comments to see like, is this bullshit? Is this real? So, um, and then if it's fun, sometimes I like to turn on like Fox or CNN just to see what the narrative is, just to see what my parents are seeing.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  See the both, both, both sides of the spectrums.

• 10:58Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 10:59Speaker 02

  The blue and the, the red, right?

• 11:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was just something I saw today, um, this morning, actually, just since the Iran war broke out. Do you remember when, um, when COVID happened? There's those montages of all of the mainstream media outlets basically repeating the same thing over and over again. It's like they were almost, they were fed a script.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:22Danny Jones?

  That, that's already happened with the Iran war. They're already, all of them are already saying, there's a montage that says, short-term pain for long-term, short-term success. All of them are saying the same thing. So like, I don't, it's just, all of that stuff is just, it's just too narrative driven and I think it's too fake. And, um.

• 11:40Speaker 02

  I, I, I used to watch the news a lot, but since the COVID, it can kind of, it was very, especially in Quebec where I'm from, it was very badly managed. We had curfew and, and I was so pissed off. I was very angry at the situation.

• 11:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 11:55Speaker 02

  I mean, how, how a curfew will limit the propagation of the, you know, I don't, I don't get it. You know, I was very angry and I was very disappointed of what happened, but it made me realize also that maybe the media or sometimes are politicized, you know, like they have, maybe, maybe the guy that works doesn't even know, but maybe upstairs there's an agenda, you know? It's maybe it's pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical industry. Maybe it's a, maybe it's a military industrial complex. I mean, when the, when the military industrial complex, you know, profit from war, there will always be war. Same thing with, I believe, a virus or a disease that will always.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  Have virus or disease because they make money out of it, you know?

• 12:44Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  A lot of people roll their eyes and think, oh, it's it's a conspiracy theory idea. But man, the more you look at it, then the the more you dive into these things, sometime you find out.

• 12:55Danny Jones?

  This is the year, this is the year of the conspiracy theorist, man. Conspiracy theorists are rolling and rolling in shit right now because everything that all the craziest conspiracies are coming true now.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:05Danny Jones?

  You know, it's gonna say, there's a, I had this, uh, there's this comedian, Sam Tripoli. He he came in the other day and he's a, he has a conspiracy theory podcast. He said, after these Epstein files came out, we only have three conspiracies left. We, the only ones, only, the only conspiracies left are Flat Earth, viruses aren't real, and nukes are fake.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, it's insane, but it it also depend where you're from. For example, I I'm lucky, I have the opportunity to travel a lot. I travel around the world and I can see while I'm traveling which which country is exposed to certain truth.

• 13:44Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 13:44Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? Even though if it's might not be the truth, like in Canada, for example, where I'm from in Quebec, it's very left wing. You know, like if you look at the media, uh, you know, and all the left wing ideology are pushed. And and if you go, for example, in, I don't know, like in Texas, um, I I watch Fox is is right.

• 14:07Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  And then you have CNN, which is left, right? So but but depending where you at, and I'm sure if I would go in Russia and I have a friend that live there, we're the bad guys in their movies. You know what I mean? We're the bad guys.

• 14:20Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  So it depends from which with which point of view you're looking at. You know what I mean? So it's so hard to really find out the truth because, man, it's always politicized.

• 14:30Danny Jones?

  Yeah, there's so much nuance, man. It's really hard to know. And, you know, it's, I say this all the time and it frustrates me, but like for people like me that basically just talk on a microphone and post videos on the internet and talk to people, like it's that, what we're doing right here is talking about some war somewhere. Is so disconnected from the truth because like you have one guy who's on the ground who's seeing something reporting it and then there's like five layers of separation of people talking about it. It's like the game of telephone before it gets to a video that I'm able to see and talk about it on here. And there's somebody who's hearing it for the first time through me six

• 15:11Danny Jones?

  layers deep. So it's like we're so disconnected from what's real anyways. It's just it's so hard to to drill down to what's really going on around the world.

• 15:19Speaker 02

  And also with the the age of AI now that we're in, it's it's gonna be even harder. To differentiate what's real was not. There's so many so much misinformation, you know, you just look online like all the product people try to sales, you know, this is cure cancer this do that. I'm like, man, I don't know what's real. It's hard. It's very hard to know, you know, very hard to know.

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• 17:08Danny Jones?

  Anthropic AI, the company that was getting the defense contract from the Pentagon?

• 17:13Speaker 02

  No.

• 17:14Danny Jones?

  So the Pentagon had this contract with a, pull up the story Steve, so we don't fuck it up. But this company called Anthropic, one of the biggest AI companies had, uh, was working on a deal with the Pentagon. And I guess one of the line items in the contract was that they wanted them to spy on US citizens with their, with their AI. And then they said, no, that we're not doing this, get rid of the, get, take this out of the contract. And the Pentagon was like, no, this is, we're, we're sticking to this point. We're not going to let this go. And then so eventually the Pentagon said, screw you guys, we're going with OpenAI. So they offered it to OpenAI, chat G, the company that owns ChatGPT with Sam Altman. And I guess he took the deal.

• 17:52Danny Jones?

  So now like ChatGPT is working with the Pentagon and potentially they're going to be spying on, on US citizens. So who knows, who knows how that goes?

• 18:02Speaker 02

  I'm sure, I'm sure they already do it. I have a friend who works for the government. He's, he's high, you know? And he says to me this, you know, cellphone?

• 18:09Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  They can listen to our conversation. They can, they can look with the camera. The, the thing they're not allowed to do is to use those evidence. And, and publicly, because that would prove that they, you know, they interfere in our privacy.

• 18:25Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  But they can collect intelligence, you know? They can use it, you know? So it's, it's crazy. I'm sure they already do it.

• 18:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Uh, they have to, they have to, bro. I mean, I've heard, I've heard like anecdotal stories of weird shit happening to people. But like, goddamn man, well, if they've been doing, they've been doing that since, from what I understand is they've been spying on people since nine 11. But like, how much crime have they stopped? Like, what is their justification for doing that? Like, have they, they haven't stopped that we know of, like any big attacks. There's been tons of attacks like throughout the country since then.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  Um, and, and when you say they, who are they? Is, is it the president or I don't know, because the president come and go every four year. Is he briefed on that stuff or what is his level of secrecy?

• 19:13Danny Jones?

  Well, it's probably the NSA and private companies.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  But who's in charge, you know? It must have a guy who has the, the full picture of, of this, you know?

• 19:24Danny Jones?

  There must be a guy who has the full picture. I just.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Or a group of people that have, you know, same thing with, I know you're, you're really into UFO, UFO, UAPs, you know, and there's a phenomenon. I mean, the phenomenon is real. What we don't know for sure is that we don't have evidence.

• 19:43Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 19:43Speaker 02

  To know if it's alien, interdimensional, or us from the future, or Atlantean, or whatever, you know, like, we don't know. But the phenomenon is real. There is things that, that flies. Is the government has retrieved some of them? To back engineer this, we don't know. There's a lot of whistleblowers that, that came up.

• 20:03Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  But same thing with, with this topic. There must be a group or someone that has the big, biggest picture, you know? I, I wanted, I would, I wish I could know, you know?

• 20:16Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I just don't know how that person sleeps at night.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:20Danny Jones?

  You know, they must be, they, unless they're just a pure sociopath, like a pure psychopath.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  If you had an opportunity on your podcast, Danny, to interview someone on truth serum. Who would it be?

• 20:34Danny Jones?

  On truth serum?

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Yes, he has to tell you, he has to tell you an answer.

• 20:38Danny Jones?

  Oh.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  Because there must be someone high up that knows. You know who would I've chose? I would choose Vladimir Putin.

• 20:47Danny Jones?

  Ooh.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  Because he used to be in the KGB. So I'm sure Vladimir Putin probably knows more than the Prime Minister of Canada, the, the, the president, because he wasn't, or maybe Bush Senior, but now he's, he's, he's gone, but.

• 21:01Danny Jones?

  Bush Senior.

• 21:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, guys like this, I think they, they know a lot of stuff.

• 21:05Danny Jones?

  I think I'd pick Bill Clinton.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  Bill Clinton. Could be, yeah.

• 21:10Danny Jones?

  I think he knows a lot of shit.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  Probably.

• 21:12Danny Jones?

  I think, and he's a smart, for as evil as that guy is, and all the atrocities that he's committed, he's very smart. I think he knows a lot of shit. A lot of shit that could lay to rest a lot of mysteries in the world today, including the UFO stuff.

• 21:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I watched, did you watch the, um, I don't know if you saw that recent deposition that he did?

• 21:37Speaker 02

  No.

• 21:38Danny Jones?

  For they're deposing him about the Epstein stuff.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, I haven't seen. Yeah. Oh, shit.

• 21:43Danny Jones?

  God, it was wild.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  What, what did he say? Like, uh, he says he's, he was, he knew, but he was never part of.

• 21:49Danny Jones?

  Well, first of all, he looks like Joe Biden, right? He looks the same age as Joe Biden and he's got this like pre Parkinson's, like he's drinking his water and he's like, drinking it like that, you know, shaking and you're like, oh God, this poor guy, like they're gonna, they're gonna rip him apart. And then he opens his mouth and he is sharp as a tack.

• 22:06Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 22:07Danny Jones?

  Like he's still got the charm. He's still got the wit. He's quick. I mean, he always used to, he was always like that. And then they're, they're showing him some photos of him and Epstein from back in the day and he passes it to him and he looks at it. He like pulls his glasses down, staring at it. And then he gets this real big smile on his face. And then his lawyer yanks it from him. He's like, hold on, hold on, give me that back, give me that back. And he's like,

• 22:32Speaker 02

  This, this is on the news.

• 22:33Danny Jones?

  He's reminiscing. Yeah, it's in the deposition with him. You could probably find it on X, but it is fucking bonkers to see him react like that, dude. Cause you can tell, you can just tell he's like, he's having a full on like flashback.

• 22:47Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 22:47Danny Jones?

  Of what he was going through. And, you know, some of the shoulders that he's rubbed with, like in his years traveling around the world with some of the sheiks and the world leaders and, you know, like I would, I would love to juice that dude up with an IV and truth serum and let him talk for three hours. That would be, that would be pretty insane.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  Which question would you, would you ask him?

• 23:09Danny Jones?

  I don't know. I don't know where to start.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  UFO, Epstein file, what?

• 23:15Danny Jones?

  The first thing I would ask him, I would ask him about Mina Arkansas and ask him how much money he was making from all the cocaine that was coming in from South America.

• 23:24Danny Jones?

  Look at him. This is him staring at the photo. Look at the mouth's open. He's just like, give me that back, give that shit back.

• 23:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think it's bombard. He says, we live in our memories, you know?

• 23:36Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  He's living there, he's living a souvenir now.

• 23:39Danny Jones?

  That was a good night.

• 23:42Danny Jones?

  Oh shit, remember her?

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Oh my god, yeah. That, that, that, it doesn't look good, yeah, it doesn't look good.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 23:54Danny Jones?

  Oh my god.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  It's hard to interpret.

• 23:56Danny Jones?

  He's top of the list. I'm sure there's some other people I could think of that are dead now, but he's up there.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  Man.

• 24:02Danny Jones?

  He's definitely up there, bro. Bob Lazar would be another good one.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Oh yeah?

• 24:07Danny Jones?

  I think Bob Lazar would be good.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  I know him.

• 24:10Danny Jones?

  I saw, I saw, you were just at that thing with, with Jesse Michaels and Bob Lazar and, and those guys.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  I met him a few, I spent a time with him.

• 24:18Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 24:19Speaker 02

  And I met him many different times and,

• 24:23Speaker 02

  well, a lot of people say I'm naive, but I believe that he believes what he's telling me is true. I don't know if it's, if the story is true, but I believe that he believes.

• 24:34Danny Jones?

  That he believes it.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:35Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. One, uh, one theory that I had was that maybe, because during his testimony, he, he, he says that, if you look at the interview, he says that before he got, he got to the hangar and he got,

• 24:52Speaker 02

  exposed to those craft that are apparently from another world and retrieved by, you know, the, the military. He was, he had to drink a cocktail. He didn't know what it was. And, you know, yeah, like, yeah, he, he, yeah, he had an exam, like a physical exam. So I thought that maybe, one theory, is that he could have been part of a, maybe some kind of MKUltra, like a, you know, you know, when you do a regression in hypnosis, I wonder if it's possible to inject fake memories in someone.

• 25:32Danny Jones?

  I think so.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  You know, people will, will say, ah, no, it's impossible. But what is more plausible? This, or maybe you work on alien craft? But the thing is, This theory doesn't hold up anymore because he only drank that liquid once. And he went back and forth multiple time at different times to work. You know, because he was on call. Sometime he was, he was working like for a few days, then he went back home for a week or two. Then he got a call again, brought back for another few days. So that wouldn't work because, you know, if he would have had to drink that liquid before every time he got exposed like to these, to this material, maybe that would have hold up.

• 26:18Speaker 02

  But because the fact that he only did it once in the beginning and he had to come back and forth. I don't know, maybe, or maybe it was all.

• 26:27Danny Jones?

  They would have to implant fake memories throughout a long period of time, right?

• 26:31Speaker 02

  I guess so. I don't know if it's doable.

• 26:33Danny Jones?

  I don't know if that is either.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  The thing is, I believe that the, the military and the stroll complex has certain tech, has access to certain technology that we do not have. I think they have their hands on, on certain technology that it takes maybe decades for us to have access on. So maybe they have a way to do that. I know they experiment on different soldiers, you know, on hypnosis and psychedelic drugs. And different programs.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  That's one theory. Or maybe he really did work on a retrieve alien craft. That was from, he says in the report, it was a Zeta Reticuli. It was a binary star system very far away from.

• 27:20Danny Jones?

  They said, he said that they told him it was from there?

• 27:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, he read a report.

• 27:25Danny Jones?

  Oh, he read the report.

• 27:26Speaker 02

  But it was, it was impossible for him to know if, if what was written in the report was accurate. Because sometime it's only information that is passed down to you. And if there's a leak, they can trace it back to you.

• 27:39Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  So, so maybe it was, it was not true. But he says that everything that was written in the report about what he was working on was accurate. So maybe it was accurate, maybe it wasn't. I don't know.

• 27:56Speaker 02

  I want to believe.

• 27:56Danny Jones?

  If I was to bet, I would just say that that that really happened. You know, because there's so much bullshit out there now where it's just like, who knows what you can take? You know, who who knows what's real or who knows what's fake? It's just like, it's like playing roulette, you know, with what's true or not. So, and that was so early and he's been so consistent.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:13Danny Jones?

  And, you know, he had such a weird past, like before that, like with, um, I heard that he owned some sort of like brothel or something. So if you were the CIA and you wanted to pick some guy, he's the perfect guy to pick because you can deny him so easily.

• 28:26Speaker 02

  That's right. That's what that's what he says. He says the reason why he believe he was picked to work on that project.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  It's because, not not because he was the most competent. There was guys that were just as competent and maybe more competent than he than he is. But he's he's a clearly a brilliant man, like very educated. But he says to me that the reason why he was picked, he believe is because it was easy to be discredited. If something happened, you could say, oh, he's he's bullshit or look at his, uh, look at his, uh, past crime, you know?

• 28:56Danny Jones?

  That makes him the perfect candidate.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 28:59Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  They they might have planned this, yeah?

• 29:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I think they could have.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  It's fun to speculate, though.

• 29:06Danny Jones?

  It is. It is very. It is very fun.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 29:09Danny Jones?

  Now, didn't didn't you say that you had some sort of like weird experiences when you were young?

• 29:14Speaker 02

  When I was young, I.

• 29:15Danny Jones?

  This was on your on your first Joe Rogan.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:17Danny Jones?

  He was like, he was like drilling down on you and you were like, no, no, no.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  I was so uncomfortable at the time. I didn't know what to react. Uh, and I don't know why we got that information. He might, he must have taught, talked to some of my friend or I don't know why he got that information. But when I was young, I I I used to have nightmare. And, uh, yeah, I I used to tell my parent that I, uh, I think there is monsters or, you know, I used to draw them, you know? And it lasts for a long time since I was like a kid until I would say early teenager teenager. But there is a phenomenon that is called sleep paralysis.

• 29:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  That happened to many people. And for me, it it makes more sense, it's more plausible to to think that that's really what happened, you know, like I was, uh, maybe in a semi-conscious state in the middle of a dream and I got paralyzed and I imagine all those things. However,

• 30:18Speaker 02

  I cannot recall exactly what happened.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  But I remember that I remembered.

• 30:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  And what freaked me out is that I saw documentaries, different documentaries about alien abduction after.

• 30:34Speaker 02

  When I, when I was about, you know, early teenage teenager. And a lot of those victims claimed that their memory got erased. So it ma- it, it made me freaked out a little bit. I was like, holy shit, what if? You know, that's what happened. But I, I mean, I don't have any evidence. It's only in, in my head.

• 30:55Danny Jones?

  I used to have crazy night terrors when I was a kid. No, no, never thought it was like alien abduction or anything, but I just had like, I, I don't know if it would be sleep paralysis, but it was just like, I remember just, you know, laying in bed, lights off, pitch black, just being so goddamn terrified. And like, having, I would have these nightmares where I was like awake but asleep. And I would sleepwalk and like, I was, I was literally unmanageable. With my parents said I was unmanageable for years because I was having these crazy night terrors.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  Maybe it happened to you.

• 31:32Danny Jones?

  But I, maybe, or I think it could be just something in just like, the, the undeveloped human brain. When, when kids are young, kids talk to ghosts, kids do all kinds of crazy stuff, you know?

• 31:45Speaker 02

  That, that, the, maybe we, we have, the, the logical part of our brain is not molded yet, you know? So we have more creativity, more imagination. Maybe that's what it is for me as well. And sometimes we have traumatic experience, maybe watching a movie. And we picked up those, those information that we're exposed to and make it, make it up as our own experience, you know? That, that, that is more plausible than saying that you're, we've been, you know, abducted. But it's fun to speculate, you know?

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• 33:44Speaker 02

  Later on, um, in my life, I saw a UAP, something that I cannot explain. I mean, I'm not an astrophysicist. I was driving my car, it's about, uh, maybe almost 18, 18 years ago. Yeah, Russia.

• 33:59Danny Jones?

  Oh, no, I haven't had a.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  So I was with him, I was in Albuquerque. I was with Ali Abdelaziz, who's the manager of Khabib Nurmagomedov. Oh, yeah.

• 34:11Speaker 02

  I was with Mike Van Arzal, who's another fighter in front of the, you know, driving the car. And another guy was there, Alean, Alez, Alean Doro, a Mexican fighter, but I lost track of him. We were together in the car and we all saw something. I don't know what it was, I'm not saying it's alien, but we saw something that we couldn't explain. It didn't look like anything that we, we have seen before. And all the, all five of us, when it happened, we were on the highway driving. It was dark. We were like, holy shit, what happened? Oh my God. And I remember.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Because it's very strange when they talk about what they've seen.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  It does not resemble of what I've seen. It's like we're lying. We make up a story that we all have different.

• 35:05Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  Different experience. So for me, it looked like a greenish triangular light orb sort of flying towards us, then it changed direction, then it changed again and it skipped away. And it sort of disappeared.

• 35:22Danny Jones?

  Where, where again?

• 35:24Speaker 02

  It was in Albuquerque, New Mexico. It was, I was training for one of my training, training camp. But another thing too, that when you talk about these things and you're, you're all MMA fighters, people will right away say, oh, you're all brain damaged. You guys are crazy. But, but we really, really saw something. Maybe it was a test flight from a, I don't know, some kind of a very advanced craft from the military, but they didn't move like anything I've seen before. And the way I just described it to you is different than how, for example, Rashad or Mike Van Arsdale or even Alih Abdelaziz or the other guy describe it.

• 36:04Danny Jones?

  Interesting. How did they, how did they describe it?

• 36:07Speaker 02

  Well, some says, I, I can't remember.

• 36:11Speaker 02

  Some says it lasted for a minute. For me, I think it lasted for maybe

• 36:17Speaker 02

  ten, fif- fifteen seconds, maybe. Some says it was blue. I think for me, if I remember correctly, it was green, but I can't, it's weird. I can't, because it's so weird. There's no frame of reference, no wings, nothing. I can't. I can't really remember what I've seen because there's no frame of reference.

• 36:35Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  But we all saw something. I don't know what it was, but if it was like a comet or anything, it didn't move like a comet. It was like moving different direction, then it changed and then skip out and.

• 36:46Danny Jones?

  Well, that part of the continent is like very common to see that kind of stuff, you know? And there's also lots of military bases around there that have been testing stuff forever.

• 36:56Speaker 02

  And you, you, a lot of UAPs are linked to. Military base, you know, with uh nuclear uh weapon storage, you know, a lot of time. It's it's it's scenes, it's seen over military area where they have like nuclear weapon like like it's like we've been monitored or something. I don't know.

• 37:16Danny Jones?

  It seems like the nuclear stuff is the common denominator, right? Between most of the UFO sightings and not just around nuclear missile bases, but also around nuclear power plants. There's like the Japan Fukushima meltdown, UFO sightings all around that. They even like mon- have UFO monuments around there now. Uh even Chernobyl, there was there was um documented sites around there. And then even uh in in South Africa in nineteen ninety-three, I think there was a famous case in Ruwa, the school.

• 37:46Speaker 02

  Ariel School.

• 37:47Danny Jones?

  The Ariel School. There was a nuclear, something, a nuclear plant or a mine or something really close to there. So, yeah, we act- we actually, just the other day, I had this guy in here, Robert Solis, who was working at one of the military bases in Wyoming, I think it was.

• 38:03Danny Jones?

  And he was telling the story about how in the seventies, in like seventy-eight or something. Uh a UFO came and shut down his entire missile site, twice in three days.

• 38:17Danny Jones?

  It's like, and these guys are, you know, these guys aren't kooks.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, there there's a report that the same thing happened in Russia. It's ring the cold war.

• 38:25Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 38:25Speaker 02

  And it activate instead because they have a different.

• 38:28Danny Jones?

  Turned them on.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, they have a different system than the the American. And they turn it on and at the last moment they turn turn it on and then turn it off at the last moment. I mean, it's it's in the report.

• 38:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  I I, man, I want to believe, but man, it's it's, you know, we don't have the strong evidence. I mean. I mean, there's a lot, sorry, there's a lot of evidence, but there's no proof, you know, evidence is not a proof, you know? In a court of law, a lot of this like would automatically.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  Justify that UFOs, I mean, it's a real phenomenon, but what they are is the thing. It's already like people that think UFOs does not exist, there is no UAPs because they're late, they're not up to date, even President Barack Obama, Trump have talked about it openly. There is a phenomenon, there is a phenomenon, but we don't know what they are. It's damn fun to speculate.

• 39:21Danny Jones?

  It could be multiple things, it could be a number of things, like it could be, it could be some sort of natural, like there's earthquake lights that come up like before earthquakes that look like UFOs, you know, who knows what other kind of like weird, natural, atmospheric things could create stuff like this. It could be some fucking breakaway survivor, human civilization from, that survived a catastrophe a long time ago, now they live under the ocean. It could be like super secret DARPA military stuff. It could be all of it, it could be time travelers, who knows, it could be Zeta Reticuli, or maybe just a little bit of all of it combined.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  Our own consciousness that, that creates something like, it's very strange.

• 40:06Danny Jones?

  Oh my god, yeah, that's true, that's.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  I was with Jeremy Corbell, who's an investigative journalist. He's one of the main guy that, that, that, when the news come out, it's very often him and George Knapp that.

• 40:21Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I'm familiar with him, he's great.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  And I went to his house and he was very kind to show us video evidence. Man, you should see these things, they're picked up from Navy warship, you see orbs that the warship locked on, on it, like it locked, it's AI, it locked, and then it goes to the left, then it tried to follow the orbs, then it catch up to it, and then it zip back to the right, pew, and disappear. I'm like, what the hell is this?

• 40:49Danny Jones?

  Is this stuff that's not available to the public?

• 40:52Speaker 02

  It will be, I think it is available, or it will be released soon. By the time it, this thing comes out, you know, so it's, it's, there's, he has a ton of stuff that are very interesting, and he was very, very nice, very kind to show us, like it's unbelievable. So he's, wow, there's really a phenomenon, it's, it's, it's, it's very.

• 41:19Danny Jones?

  We had this dude on recently.

• 41:22Danny Jones?

  What was his name? Peter Lavenda, who was just on here, who's written a bunch of books about this stuff his whole life. For probably like 50 years, he's been writing about this stuff. And just, just a historian on the history of like the United States military covert operations, like black budget stuff, UFOs, the occult, NASA and all this stuff. He knows all, he's genius. And I was asking him about like, I was like, if you really wanted to like, study this stuff and find the truth, like, how would you do it? How would you go about finding out the truth? Like, and not, if you were, let's say if you're like in charge of the CIA or the government, you want to know what's really going on.

• 42:06Danny Jones?

  He was saying, he goes, if I wanted to know what the truth was, he goes, I would study the human mind and human consciousness of the people that are experiencing this stuff. If I really wanted to go straight to the truth. He thinks there's some sort of conduit between the people who experienced this stuff all the time, or have experienced it a handful of times. There's something going on with those people and their consciousness that is directly connected to this stuff. And he thinks that's, he goes, thinking about it as far as in like a a nuts and bolts type, space travel way, like spacetime way is the wrong way of thinking about it.

• 42:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's very interesting that they're.

• 42:48Danny Jones?

  I've never heard anyone explain it like that to me before. It blew my fucking mind.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  But a lot of people claim that, that they're saying that if something that big would not be able, the government will not be able to hide it, but I disagree. Because if it's well compartmented, I think they can, they can, they can hide it from the public. If, if they really found, if they really found or recuperate alien craft or alien bodies as they, they claim, the whistleblowers and it's hidden somewhere.

• 43:23Speaker 02

  I think if they compartmented everything, they could hide certain things.

• 43:29Danny Jones?

  Sure.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  I mean, it's only speculation, but look at, uh, look at Paper, Papercliff.

• 43:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 43:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, after the Second World War, you know, when they brought all the Nazi, they brought the Nazi in work for the, the, the, the space program. You know, Werner von Braun and all that, you know, now, now we know it's true.

• 43:45Danny Jones?

  NASA was created by Nazis and occultists.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  A hundred percent, and people don't believe that. You can look it up. It's true. It's true.

• 43:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's insane.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  They hide it. The Manhattan Project, the atomic bomb, they hide, they hid, they hid it because they compartmentalize everything.

• 44:00Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 44:01Speaker 02

  Maybe with the alien craft is the same thing. I mean, it's, who knows? It's fun to speculate.

• 44:06Danny Jones?

  The Nazis were obsessed with this shit, the alien stuff and the UFO stuff and like trying to reverse engineer and, and build all kinds of crazy time travel machines. And there was the Wright, not the Wright Brothers, the, um, the, who were the brothers that came up with the flying wing?

• 44:25Danny Jones?

  I don't know why I'm blanking on this, on these guys' names. Anyways, these guys came from there and they, they, uh, the Horton Brothers. They had the Horton flying wing and that other things, other objects that they were using that looked like space, space, flying objects or whatever. And, um, they disappeared to like South America after Germany fell. And then all the Nazis came here and started doing all the atomic bomb manufacturing and this, and fuck, man. It's like the Nazis didn't lose World War II, Germany lost World War II. The Nazis just came over here.

• 44:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, a lot of them.

• 44:58Danny Jones?

  And continued America, man.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's very sad.

• 45:00Danny Jones?

  It's insane.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, they, uh, they, they, and but then after the war, you have to think who's the next enemy? The, the Soviet, you know, then the Cold War start, who's the enemy of my enemy? We're gonna use the enemy of my enemy and, you know, I don't know. It's, it's, it's, it's so evil. Yeah, 100%.

• 45:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah, the Cold War just like changed everything. It's like we, it went from kinetic war.

• 45:28Danny Jones?

  To boots on the ground, just fighting to this weird covert shadow wars, where it's all spying on people and trying to get leverage and manipulate the media. So the public has an, it's like, it's like you're casting shadows on a wall to try to paint a reality for the people. And then on the, on the other hand, you're just doing all this crazy spy war, getting leverage on different countries, getting blackmail on countries, doing arms deals, maybe even doing deals with the countries that you're telling your population are evil. And just for the purpose of bankers making more money and politicians climbing ladders and getting more power.

• 46:12Danny Jones?

  And I think that's kind of like we're, we're experiencing the long-term effects of that right now with all this Epstein stuff coming out and this Iran war happening, where it's like, Jesus Christ, man, are we, I don't think like, I don't think we're the good guys anymore.

• 46:27Speaker 02

  It's hard to have faith. Yeah, it's, it's hard, it's hard to have faith in your institution when you see that happen. If I would have a gun on my head and trying, tell me what's really is going on, I would, I would probably think that the, the military industrial complex, there are certain bureaucrats in the government that control the, the narrative and there will always, there will always be war because we need war. They need war to make money.

• 46:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 46:58Speaker 02

  I, I think it's Eisenhower that warned everyone before he left. And nobody pay, pay attention to what he says, but if you go back, you can watch it even on YouTube, his speech, he warns that if we let the military and the, the war be profitable and be, and the military industrial complex in charge, that's not good.

• 47:22Danny Jones?

  No.

• 47:22Speaker 02

  And he's the general, he's a war, pro-war guy. So if someone, if you think someone would not say it, something like this, it would be him.

• 47:30Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  But he said it.

• 47:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 47:32Speaker 02

  It's very strange.

• 47:33Danny Jones?

  It's very prophetic.

• 47:34Speaker 02

  I mean, very strange.

• 47:36Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 47:36Speaker 02

  You see what's happening in the, in, in today's.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  Today's world, there's a war that ends, there's another one that starts immediately. There's always a war, there's always, I think it, whether if it's public or if it's private, I think there there will always be, it's sad to say, but I I sort of lost faith and and I think there if there is money to be made, there always.

• 47:56Danny Jones?

  I think not just you and me, man, I think a lot of military people are losing faith too. You know, like, I hear stories all the time on podcasts and on people that I know and that I talk to that come on this podcast, who spent their lives, you know, fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. And, you know, over in the Middle East after nine eleven, and they come back and like see that it was all for nothing, they these guys have like, first of all, they've literally wasted all that time, they've put themselves through so much psychological trauma, you know, not just from seeing so much death, so much goddamn death and destruction every day. And also being in that like, which you know about, being in that hyper vigilant state,

• 48:39Danny Jones?

  like when you're in the fucking octagon and you're fighting somebody, like being in that every day, but with a gun pointed at somebody.

• 48:44Speaker 02

  Even worse.

• 48:45Danny Jones?

  And you come back, you basically retire from the military and now you live here and you you you're trying to get like a normal nine to five job and you're fucking, you're depressed and, you know, these people's fucking lives are getting ruined and.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:59Danny Jones?

  Most of those dudes.

• 49:01Speaker 02

  They did it for the right reason, because they they want to protect the the people they love for a patriot, you know?

• 49:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 49:07Speaker 02

  And now they they the country that turned, the government turned their back on them.

• 49:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  It's very sad.

• 49:12Danny Jones?

  It is really sad.

• 49:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's the Eisenhower, yeah, that's a one.

• 49:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah, was Bernie posted it?

• 49:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah, man.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  I I my English suck, you know, so I I'm sorry for everyone, all your.

• 49:29Danny Jones?

  It's getting better, though.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  It's getting, it's better, but.

• 49:31Danny Jones?

  I've I've seen the evolution of it.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  Well, well, you know, like, we talk about this Eisenhower clip, it's something that I was exposed later in my life, you know, like all all this stuff, because, you know, in French, I had the tradiction, the traduction version, you know, in French, but when I I was able to get my hand and listen to the original one, I was like, man, this is crazy.

• 49:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah. It is, it is pretty fucking wild to see all these things coming true from so long ago, you know? Have you seen the, uh, my brother was, I was, I was having a conversation with my brother on the phone this morning. We were talking kinda like about this stuff and like AI and all that. And you know, people's like reality has been turned so upside down. Where like, there's, have you seen the videos? There's videos online of Hitler giving his speeches and there's like, they re-dub it into English.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 50:28Danny Jones?

  And people are saying like, oh my God, he was such a great guy. Listen to this, he seems like such a positive dude.

• 50:34Speaker 02

  Evil, evil, evil genius, you know, like, but an evil, evil one.

• 50:38Danny Jones?

  But my question is like, how do you know AI is not changing all that? I don't know fucking German. I don't have time to go learn German to verify this. It's dangerous, bro.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, the way he was able to bring everyone on board, like manipulate everyone, like it's, uh, it's scary. Yeah, but when you hear that, what you talk about that, that clip, you think he goes like, fuck, fuck, fuck, they kill, they kill, kill this, you wish.

• 51:00Danny Jones?

  Right, it sounds like that.

• 51:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, but, but the way he talks is very elegant and very, you know, like if you're in, if you're in Germany in a, in a crisis and you're, you're exposed to this, you see him as a savior. I mean, I mean, you could, you can get blind by, by what he says. And, and then after you found out that like everything he's done, like he's the guy, he's a, he's a pure evil, you know, it's insane, you know?

• 51:23Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  But it's very interesting when they translate the speech. I'm like, what the hell, man? It's crazy.

• 51:29Danny Jones?

  See if you can find the video clip of it, Steve. It's, it's, it's nuts. And see if you can, I think you, um, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if YouTube does the thing where like, cause I don't trust anything I see on Google or YouTube. So I don't know how I would trust them to verify its reality or not, of like the authenticity of it. You might have to like run it, you might have to like run one of those videos through AI.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:50Danny Jones?

  Or something, or just give it to like a, uh, a Greek professor.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, that's a one.

• 51:56Speaker 04

  We, that is the democracies.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  Oh wow.

• 52:02Danny Jones?

  Just give us like, give us like thirty seconds of it.

• 52:04Speaker 04

  It is a shameful spectacle to see how the whole democratic world is oozing sympathy for the poor, tormented Jewish people, but remains hard-hearted and obdurate when it comes to helping them, which is surely, in view of its attitude, an obvious duty. The arguments that are brought up as an excuse for not helping them actually speak for us Germans and Italians. For this is what they say. One, we, that is the democracies, are not in a position to take in the Jews. Yet in these empires, there are not ten people to the square kilometer. While Germany, with her one hundred and thirty-five inhabitants to the square kilometer, is the.

• 52:43Danny Jones?

  This guy's gotta be so tired after doing these speeches. After doing a speech like that for an hour. Yeah. How do you have energy to do anything?

• 52:51Speaker 02

  Apparently was on meth.

• 52:52Danny Jones?

  Oh yeah, lots of meth. Lots of fucking meth.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  I think, I think it's the Second World War that they went through the Ardene, Ardene in France, when they, they got to France. They got so fast that nobody expect them to be, to be there that fast.

• 53:09Danny Jones?

  Blitz, yeah.

• 53:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, because they are different dose of drug for the, let's say the, the tank driver.

• 53:14Danny Jones?

  Pervitin, yeah.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  He was like, like, like, for a long, like, they couldn't sleep, maybe, maybe for two days, like, in, like, non-stop driving, rah, like, it's crazy, man.

• 53:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah, and apparently that's how they got through France so quick, because all the French soldiers were drinking wine, and these fucking German Nazis hopped up on meth, just started ramming through.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  That's crazy, man.

• 53:35Danny Jones?

  But at the end of it, when the meth wears off, the guys were like worthless, you know, because it like sucked up all this dopamine or whatever that, that it uses in your brain, and these guys were just like, they were able to fight for like days on end with no sleep, but then after that, they would be useless for like a few days.

• 53:50Speaker 02

  They would be fucked up, yeah.

• 53:51Danny Jones?

  They'd be super fucked up.

• 53:52Speaker 02

  Man, it must have been a crazy, scary time to live in, man. If you're, let's say, let's say you're, you're a Jewish, Jewish person, person living in Europe.

• 54:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  I have a friend, his name is George Renitz. He's ninety, he's gonna turn ninety-four years old. He was in the, in a, in a concentration camp. I'm, I'm, I'm actually going to, to see him this, this week.

• 54:13Danny Jones?

  Oh wow.

• 54:14Speaker 02

  Um, doing an episode, I'm, I'm launching a YouTube channel in a, in a few weeks. And I'm having an episode on him and the guy, man, is sharp, man.

• 54:23Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 54:24Speaker 02

  Oh, he's unbelievable, very successful, very wealthy, healthy. Like, how can you come back after you lived through that trauma?

• 54:32Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  Put your life in order. I mean, the guy for me is one of my idol. He's one of my biggest inspirations. Unbelievable, unbelievable.

• 54:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah, some of the people that had been through that and come out of it were like some of the most interesting people ever, you know, so it does something to you when you go through something like that, you know, like I read that book by Viktor Frankl was Man's Search for Meaning years ago. And I remember just like, I could never forget that book. Just seeing the stuff that those people saw and being able to escape, you know, like barely just make it out and then,

• 55:11Danny Jones?

  you know, you don't take anything in life for granted after that.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:15Danny Jones?

  You know?

• 55:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's it's it's insane, you know, like they live through that, you know what I mean? Like, I wonder how we see the world, you know, like, like, I wonder how he, like, people cannot.

• 55:26Danny Jones?

  You just wake up and you're fucking happy to be alive.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  Man, all the people you know, they're they're dead, you know, like they're your family and then you you you have to to survive this. How do you how do you stand up from that, you know?

• 55:38Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 55:39Speaker 02

  It's unbelievable. Yeah.

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• 56:25Danny Jones?

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• 57:09Danny Jones?

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• 57:51Danny Jones?

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• 58:34Danny Jones?

  or ground beef for life, plus $20 off your first box and free shipping always. That's butcherbox.com/danny. And don't forget to use our link so they know we sent you. Looking at those Nazis that were all hopped up on meth during the war. They're, I think they're still doing that in this Russia-Ukraine war. There apparently all the Russians are using like in some new age sort of like performance enhancing drug which is similar to meth to like help them on the battlefield. And the dudes on the other side are using like psychedelics to give them like more edge detection like when they're on the battlefield. Because I guess there's there's certain psychedelics that like help you navigate 3D space better.

• 59:14Speaker 02

  Really?

• 59:15Danny Jones?

  And I think the one of the psychedelics they're using is Ibogaine in Ukraine. And apparently it's really helping.

• 59:24Speaker 02

  Wow. It's used as a performance.

• 59:26Danny Jones?

  As a performance enhancing drug, yeah, for soldiers.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  I know in the Olympic game in shooting, they have they cut guys on performance enhancing drugs.

• 59:38Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 59:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, they do. Yeah, people think it's only in lifting, running.

• 59:41Danny Jones?

  What kind of drugs are they taking?

• 59:43Speaker 02

  I'm not sure if it's something that prevent them from shaking or if it's to focus better like Adderall or.

• 59:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 59:50Speaker 02

  It would be interesting. I don't know if it's if we can Google it, but there's a there's a drug that the shooters use.

• 59:58Danny Jones?

  I remember when I saw something about the shooting in the Olympic Games, I was really shocked to see what country was winning at that. Like there was one, it was it's a weird country that wins in shooting. Remember, we were just talking about this the other day. What country was that?

• 1:00:12Speaker 00

  I know a guy from Turkey won.

• 1:00:15Danny Jones?

  Maybe it was Turkey. Yeah, that's what it was. It was Turkey. I was like, I never expected Turkey to have the best shooters.

• 1:00:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a skill, yeah.

• 1:00:24Danny Jones?

  I learned I learned recently that NFL players take Adderall. I was like, I would never expect Adderall to be an athletic enhancement.

• 1:00:35Speaker 02

  Well, I think, I mean, I think it's for focus, right? If I is Adderall.

• 1:00:41Danny Jones?

  Adderall is typically what like college students or like writers.

• 1:00:46Speaker 02

  An exam, right?

• 1:00:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah, they're studying, they're trying to cram for an exam.

• 1:00:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:49Danny Jones?

  Or like people that are like trying to, you know, finish an essay or a book like more like, you know, trying to get tasks done, like cognitive tasks. I've never heard of athletes using Adderall.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  I I know that because I look, I never use performance enhancing drug, but I have trained. Many time with different training partners that are my friends. And openly said it to me like when they are on cycles.

• 1:01:16Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  And, bro, I can tell you, it makes such a crazy big difference.

• 1:01:21Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:01:22Speaker 02

  Oh, it's insane. Like, some guy that say, oh, it's, it's me who throw the punch, it's not the product bullshit. You would maybe not have had the vigilance or the, the, the clairvoyance to react.

• 1:01:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:33Speaker 02

  If you would not have been on that drug, you know what I mean? It makes a crazy difference. So, so, yes, it helps for sport like lifting, running. But it also helps for sport that are more technical, like combat sport.

• 1:01:46Danny Jones?

  What are the most, before USADA came into the picture, what were like the most popular performance enhancing drugs for fighters?

• 1:01:53Speaker 02

  I liked, uh, the performance enhancing drug, uh, uh, for fighters a lot of times. I mean, from what I.

• 1:01:59Danny Jones?

  Propranolol?

• 1:02:02Danny Jones?

  A propranolol, that's a, a blood pressure medicine, isn't it?

• 1:02:07Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, for shooters, right?

• 1:02:08Danny Jones?

  Pistol shooter was stripped of his silver medal and bronze medal at the Beijing Olympics for using propranolol to manage performance anxiety.

• 1:02:16Speaker 01

  It's a non selective beta blocker used to treat high, yeah.

• 1:02:19Danny Jones?

  A beta blocker, right? Yeah.

• 1:02:21Speaker 02

  All right, there we go.

• 1:02:22Speaker 01

  Maybe like.

• 1:02:23Danny Jones?

  That's nuts.

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  Makes you calmer.

• 1:02:24Danny Jones?

  Oh, because it gives you steady hands.

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  Maybe it slows down your heartbeat.

• 1:02:28Danny Jones?

  Slows the heart rate, gets rid of anxiety.

• 1:02:32Danny Jones?

  Huh.

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's, bro, there's drug for everything. I'm telling you, there, there's, it makes you not only stronger, more stamina. It makes you a better, like, a better performer. There, there, that gets crazy, like.

• 1:02:46Danny Jones?

  Like, what, what, but for fighting, though, like, what's the most optimal?

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  Uh, uh, very often, I, I mean, guys that, that use performance enhancing drugs for fighting, very often, they, they will take something, I think, that increase their level of testosterone, because if you have more testosterone.

• 1:03:01Danny Jones?

  Like natural testosterone.

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, you're, you're like. You're obviously more aggressive, you recuperate faster, more testosterone equal more muscle, bigger bone density, but but also they will take something to increase their stamina. You know, like a lot of time, they would some kind of mixed cocktail with EPO. EPO, yeah. I'm not, um, I don't have the expertise, you know, to know that stuff by heart, but but I from what I hear from guys that are either that from what I've seen from a guy that have been cut using them or and I hear from guys that are openly telling me what they take. Right. It's very often stuff that like that's to do to elevate your level of testosterone

• 1:03:46Speaker 02

  and then your your stamina. But it also makes you stronger, like stronger, faster, more powerful, more aggressive, but it also makes you more creative. Yeah, you would think just being more aggressive wouldn't help. Look, I'm gonna tell you the truth. I was curious about this all testosterone level thing when when start when guys start getting popped at the UFC when they implement the USA DA, you know. That's when you came back, right? Yeah, but even before that, when when guys got popped with with the P T T R T, like some some guys got popped and they say, oh, it it's a medical exemption because I'm

• 1:04:28Speaker 02

  on T R T, which is bullshit, by the way, I'm totally against it. You know, if you compete, why would you take T R T? This I disagree completely. So I was curious, I was like, man, I'm gonna do that test myself to see my level of testosterone because I never use performance enhancing drug, but I wanna see. Mm hmm. So I did it when I was not competing and, you know, off season, I always train. When I was off season, it wasn't the window, but the higher window of the average, you know, like I had a good level, you know, like a little bit higher than the average. How old were you at that point? I was maybe in my thirties, you know. But then when I was in, I did it also, I tested when I was in training camp. And guess what?

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  When I was in training camp, my level drop below the average. Right. Below the average. And I realized, I was like, man, is it normal? It's like I felt like I was like, man, is this, is it normal? And the doctor told me, the endocrinologist said, yes, because you're more stressed. Your volume of training rises. So because you're more stressed, you have more cortisol. Cortisol is the enemy of testosterone. So when one normally go up, the other one goes down. So I was like, man, is it normal? Is that, yeah, it's completely normal because you don't sleep as good. You know, you're more stressed, more anxiety. And it's naturally supposed to go down, lower than the average. If it doesn't do that, it's not normal.

• 1:05:54Speaker 02

  So there is guys, when they're in training camp, they boost that up to be higher, like in the higher average. Yeah. Which is cheating, man. Is there, they're still doing it today, you think? A hundred percent. This freaking corrupted bullshit, you know, like I, I, like, there is all, where there will be money, there will always be corruption. It's better than what it used to be. When USA DA got in, like when I was competing in the first part of my career, it was a free for all, free for all. It was like a far west, like it was like in your face. It was to be, to be cut, you needed to be stupid, you know, like to be, if you know, because you know, you've been tested that day of the fight. You need to be stupid if you get cut in the old days.

• 1:06:36Speaker 02

  Then they, they, they make it harder, you know, they start implementing, um, random testing. But even

• 1:06:45Speaker 02

  when it's random testing, it's very easy to, to, to trick. Because let's say I have a whereabouts to fill up, you know, when I was, when the, the USA DA came in, you have to fill up a, a form to tell them exactly where you, where you at every time. So if they, they randomly show up, you're there. But let's say, because I figure out, I know, I know how someone would cheat, you know? Let's say you know, you're gonna be, and you're gonna get injected by a certain substance, you know? That will probably last a few days in your system. Eh, but the effect of it will last maybe for a month. You know, but it will be detectable for maybe a few days.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  So what you do when you're worried about, you will, you will say that you're going in Antarctica for a trip. Which is not true. But you say some, something like that, like, or in a, in a country where it's, it's corrupted or, or where, you know, like, you know, they're not gonna pay someone to go find you.

• 1:07:46Danny Jones?

  Going to North Korea.

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, or, or, you know, I'm going on vacation, I don't know, somewhere like, you know, like. So, but you're not really going on vacation, you're going to get your, your, your juice, you know? And then for these few days, you're out of the grid. So even if they come, they pay someone to find you where you're supposed to be. What happened if you're not there, they're gonna call you, hey, you're not there. You're not automatically, eh, banned, you have one strike. And you're allowed to have three strikes.

• 1:08:18Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 1:08:20Speaker 02

  So there's a lot of room for bullshit like this. So it, it's, and, and I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to put the system down, the, the, to, to, to, you know, to, to insult anyone, I'm just saying, it, it, it is, because I think it's wrong to criticize a system if you don't bring alternative.

• 1:08:43Danny Jones?

  Right, sure.

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  Ways of doing it better. It, what I'm saying is, is very hard to have a perfect system to catch people who cheat. It's very, very hard. And where there's money, there will always be corruption.

• 1:08:57Danny Jones?

  Well, why don't they just let it to where all people are allowed to use them? Like, or maybe have two different, um, categories, where dudes can fight natural or dudes can fight on roids?

• 1:09:07Speaker 02

  Have you seen the enhanced game?

• 1:09:10Danny Jones?

  I've heard about it, I haven't seen it.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  It's very interesting. There is a guy that won, he's actually right now the fastest swimmer that ever swim. I believe the distance was 100 meter or 200 meter, like a very short distance. He was purposely given performance enhancing drug. There were, there were two competitors. Was, one was, I think, a former champion was, one was an elite, not a former champion, but an elite, you know, that, that is now retired. And man, the guy, the guy who was not a former champion, the, the elite came back, freaking beat the, the present world record. So when people say, oh, it doesn't make a difference, that's the, the cheaters, the cheaters excuse. This is bullshit, man. It makes a huge difference.

• 1:09:57Speaker 02

  I've, I've, I've felt it. I've, I've, I've trained with guys on it and, and when, when they're on it and when they are not on it is huge, man. It's not even comparable. It's not even comparable.

• 1:10:10Danny Jones?

  What's the biggest difference, though? Like, is it, is it the power? Is it endurance?

• 1:10:13Speaker 02

  Strength, endurance, creativity, also the, your, your brain, you know, you're sharper, you're, you're, you're, because we have a say in, in, for example, I know you do jiu jitsu.

• 1:10:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  You know, when you get tired, every black belt become a white belt, you know? When you get exhausted, tired, your level of, of, is not, your level drop. You know, when you're tired, man, this is the base. This is your foundation. When you're exhausted, you're, you're, you're not thinking of how I can attack my opponent, how I can defend. You're not thinking of your,

• 1:10:49Danny Jones?

  Sure.

• 1:10:49Speaker 02

  You're not sound, you're not sharp, technique, technique on your technicality, on, on your techniques. You're thinking how to survive. Oh, I'm gonna breathe. And you know, the, the floodgates open. So if you got that covered.

• 1:11:05Speaker 02

  You have more room for creativity. It makes you just a better athlete.

• 1:11:09Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:11:10Speaker 02

  One hundred percent.

• 1:11:11Danny Jones?

  Now, what about like cognitive enhancing drugs? Like are there any, any sort of drugs like people take that like similar to Adderall? That keep people just like more focused or dialed in?

• 1:11:22Speaker 02

  Well, that's what it does. The, the, when you take.

• 1:11:24Danny Jones?

  That's what the other stuff does.

• 1:11:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what they, the, the thing do in, in MMA. If you're, if you've got all of that covered, you know, you're not gonna get tired. You're, you're sharp. You feel like you're, you're, you're hungry, you know?

• 1:11:36Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:11:36Speaker 02

  How many days, how many times I woke up during a training camp? And I'm like, fuck that shit. I don't wanna be there. Like almost every day, almost every day of my training camp, I, I, it sucked because I had to go through very uncomfortable days, knowing that when I get to the gym, there, there's an army of killers who's there to, to trying to, to beat me up, you know? I have to go through them every day and I, I'm not motivated. I'm like, shit, I have to go through that every day until the fight comes.

• 1:12:05Danny Jones?

  Didn't you say like the, your trainer would bribe your opponents to try to like beat you during training camp?

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, there's days to, you, you, you keep the fight for fight night. But there's days that, for example, when I was training for a, for a fight,

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  the, the, the Friday was the hardcore sparing day. So for eight weeks, I go through a cycle that, um, you know, like a Monday, Tuesday, like every day I have a different, uh, schedule, you know? That evolve, uh, striking, combat sport and grappling combat sport. I work on specific, specific, specific, uh, things I need to work on, depending of the problem I need to face, depending who I'm fighting. But when comes Fridays? Friday is the, the ultimate showdown, the testing ground.

• 1:12:56Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  And the guys that, that are brought in, their goal is to, to knock me out or to, to beat the shit out of me, you know? And my, my coach, Ferraz, he says, hey, if you, I'm gonna pay you. You, you, you wanted to pay my training partner or, or because sometime when I was champion for a long time, I was, had the sort of a, a status of sort of a legend and some guys were intimidated, but. When I brought someone in, Fer was was telling them, we're gonna pay you extra money. We're gonna, I'm gonna stop the gym and praise you if you, if you, if you take, if you score a takedown or you, you beat up George or you know what I mean?

• 1:13:32Danny Jones?

  God damn, that's brutal, bro.

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  To put more stress on me because you're trying to recreate that stressful environment.

• 1:13:38Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  And it was extremely uncomfortable, uncomfortable. And I had to go through that shit. But if you're on performance enhancing drug, you wake up the morning, I mean, it's still suck because you know people are waiting for you, but you're more, you're more testosterone, you, you, you, you have, you're more hungry, you know what I mean?

• 1:13:55Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  Like guys, guys there, some guys that I've trained with, I can't say the name, they've told me, because I ask them sometimes, I say, what's the difference, man? Like, tell me how it feels like. They're like, George, I have no freaking idea. He's like, I'm taking the elevator and I hear the song in the elevator and it pissed me off. I'm like, bro, I don't want this shit happen because, yeah, because it changes you not only as a fighter, but in your everyday life.

• 1:14:20Danny Jones?

  Those guys need to adjust their fucking dose, bro. You're on a little too much there, buddy.

• 1:14:24Speaker 02

  But you need to adjust your priority, right?

• 1:14:26Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  Would you rather be the best fighter in the world or a good person and destroy your personal life? I'd rather have my personal life in order and, and.

• 1:14:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  You know, be as good as I could be as a fighter, but I don't, my, my family, my life is my priority.

• 1:14:42Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's the crazy thing about you is like, you're one of the goats and you, you like, didn't put all your eggs in that basket. It's like, and even post-career, you've like, probably kept yourself together more, better than any fighter ever.

• 1:14:55Speaker 02

  Well, it's because I planned it. Unfortunately, especially in, in, I'm, I'm saying not only in MMA, but in boxing, all come like professional combat sport, the athlete, they retire way too late. And normally there are force to retire. It's not them that they retire on, on their, on their own, they, they're forced to retire. And it's very sad. I planned it. I'm like, I'm beating the game. I don't want a game to beat me. I took advantage of it. You know what I mean? And that's how it should be. You know, you don't wanna, you don't wanna get, because at the end of the day, you're gonna get screwed no matter what.

• 1:15:37Danny Jones?

  Nobody wants to be Michael Jordan on the Wizards.

• 1:15:39Speaker 02

  They tell, they tell me, they, they, they will tell you, pass the torch. Fuck that. Not passing the torch. I'm leaving with the frigging torch, you know? I'm leaving with the title. And, and I know a lot of, a lot of, uh, fan will be like, oh, we knew it. Like, man, if the young guys listen to me, that's how it should be done. Don't pass the torch. Retire on your own when you're on top of your craft.

• 1:16:00Danny Jones?

  Do you think it has more to do with, do people chasing money? Or do you think it has a lot, uh, anything to do with like, losing the meaning? Or losing that, that adrenaline, that rush that you get when you're in the ring facing off with somebody?

• 1:16:18Speaker 02

  It could be both. It could be also, uh, I would say, uh, sort of an identity crisis. Example. Fighting is what I do, is not who I am. I don't define myself by fighting. When I fight, I'm GSP. The guy who's talking to you right now is Georges St-Pierre. I'm a different person than when I step in the octagon. It's like Batman and, uh, Bruce Wayne, Peter Parker, Spider-Man. You know, you need to be able to differentiate, differentiate these two people. It's very important.

• 1:17:01Speaker 02

  And, and, and a lot of athlete, because I give, I, I speak to a lot of different athlete, for example, I, I talk to the Toronto Raptors and a lot of them, I, I ask them, I have a one-on-one conversation with some of the player, I'm like, what, what, what is your passion? You know, and a lot of them sometimes, oh, it's basketball. Like, no, no. You, what do you love? What do you, what? It's important to have a, a side passion. For me, I love dinosaurs. I love, uh, I'm big, I'm very passionate about, uh, paleontology, dinosaurs. I'm, I'm, I'm a UAP geek too. I love UAPs, you know, and stuff like that. I have a lot of other passion on the side. My, my life doesn't only...

• 1:17:43Speaker 02

  Evolve around fighting. Fighting is what I did as a business to make money. Like, I like the concept of the art of war and everything, the science of it. I love it. I can use that and implement those same concept into my everyday life. But that's not only who I am, but the problem with a lot of the guys.

• 1:18:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:04Speaker 02

  They see themselves as the guy who's fighting in the octagon. You're not that guy.

• 1:18:09Danny Jones?

  They try to bring that into the rest of their lives.

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. You're not him. You're more than him. You know what I mean?

• 1:18:17Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:18Speaker 02

  And it takes a lot of discipline sometime to step away from that. Because, you know, when you win a fight, it's such a high, man. It's, I can't describe what it feels like. It's. I never take high, like, like drugs and like high drugs. But I'm sure it's better than any crazy drug that you takes. You know, like the rush that you have is like, man, the feeling of achievement is just unbelievable. But you had to go through that. That discomfort zone before that is unbearable in order to reach that. That high, that climax, climax, you know?

• 1:18:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:58Speaker 02

  It's very hard to explain. It's a love-hate relationship.

• 1:19:00Danny Jones?

  No, it makes sense, man.

• 1:19:02Speaker 02

  But some guys, they love it, like they get addicted to this. And then after when they retire, unfortunately, a lot of them, they get on drugs. Because they try to recreate that. You'll never be gonna be able to recreate that high again. What you can do is to try to reinvent yourself and have your priority oriented towards another goal.

• 1:19:21Danny Jones?

  Hmm. Yeah, and it's not just in combat sports too. It's another, like, the NFL and those types of sports where dudes like they'll retire and they just go crazy.

• 1:19:31Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:19:32Danny Jones?

  They get in violent altercations and end up like killing or fucking beating the shit out of somebody, you know? You hear those stories every fucking day.

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  I love. Mixed martial art, the sport, the science of it, the camera droid with my training partner, winning the fight, you know, the freedom that it gives me. There's a reason why I did it, to have the freedom.

• 1:19:53Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:54Speaker 02

  I didn't do it because I love to fight. Fighting was the worst part of it.

• 1:19:57Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:19:58Speaker 02

  But I had to, in order to propel me where I wanted to be in my life. To have the wealth, the hell, I'm very lucky, I'm healthy, but to have the wealth and the freedom. That's why I did it. I didn't do it because I love to fight. I can't care less about fighting, you know? I just wanted to have the freedom.

• 1:20:16Danny Jones?

  You still actively train all the time, right?

• 1:20:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love training and it's very, it's very therapeutic for me.

• 1:20:23Danny Jones?

  What type of training do you do the most?

• 1:20:25Speaker 02

  I mix it up. I train in different combat sports. I do from karate, which is my base. I do traditional karate, point fight karate, like striking. I spar with the guys sometimes, still. Some guys, they have fight coming up. Sometime my coach is like, hey George, can you give him a round, show him, show him who's, that I still got it, you know?

• 1:20:52Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:20:52Speaker 02

  I still have it, but, yeah, so I do that. I do a lot of gymnastic, kinesthetics, sprinting. I love sprinting.

• 1:21:02Danny Jones?

  Sprinting, I just started sprinting too.

• 1:21:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:04Danny Jones?

  And I've noticed like a huge difference in my energy level. Like, I watched this podcast on Mark Bell. Mark Bell did a podcast with this woman, who was talking about how sprinting basically like gives you more energy and gives you like more cognitive energy during the day. And it's like something about that super high intensity.

• 1:21:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:27Danny Jones?

  Short, short duration sprints. It's like, it does something.

• 1:21:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's important, especially as we age, to keep doing a workout where we do something as hard as we can.

• 1:21:44Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:45Speaker 02

  As long as we can. And in a way like sprinting, you don't run a sprint for a long distance. Like a sprint is very short. And you're able in that distance to maintain the highest intensity you could have. And when did that intensity drop? A notch is because it's not a sprint anymore, sort of.

• 1:22:09Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  I think it's important to do those intervals and it gives you huge benefits. And it's something I I I I've been doing all my life. I'm I'm I'm a very bad sprinter. I'm I'm a bad. I'm I mean, I'm better than the average, but I'm not by no mean any.

• 1:22:28Speaker 02

  Close to any good sprinter. I'm very bad, but I love sprinting because of the benefits that it gives me.

• 1:22:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, I like doing it on the beach, like going down to the beach and just sprinting on the sand. It feels good. It doesn't like hurt your feet as much.

• 1:22:40Speaker 02

  A lot of guys, they they ask me, hey, we're going to do this Ironman or this some this marathon. Would you be, would you like to be part of it? I'm like, no, I'd rather sit down and smoke a cigarette than doing this. And they don't understand. I'm like, I think because of where I am in my life, I think it will be more damageable for me to do a marathon than to smoke a cigarette. I know I don't smoke cigarette, but I would rather do that than do a marathon. You know what I mean? Just a preference for me. I'd rather do, keep it short and very intense than doing doing it extremely long.

• 1:23:13Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm. What what sort of like, um? What sort, are you still doing like the intermittent fasting stuff? Do you have any sort of diet you follow now?

• 1:23:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I haven't I haven't eat today. Now we're like.

• 1:23:24Danny Jones?

  You haven't eaten yet today?

• 1:23:25Speaker 02

  Now we're like almost.

• 1:23:26Danny Jones?

  It's almost five o'clock.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I haven't eat. I I uh so and and I'm not hungry. Because I'm used to I'm used to it. I um I start implementing fasting into my life uh eight years ago. After I was diagnosed, after my fight with Michael Bisping, I was diagnosed with ulcer colitis, which is an inflammation of the colon intestine. And I was on heavy medication.

• 1:23:53Speaker 02

  And I'm not a big fan of medication. We talk about the pharmaceutical industry and stuff. I mean, I'm just like, man, there there must be a way to to to do something about it. And I met a doctor that got introduced to me. His name is Jason Fong. He's he wrote many book on fasting. And he changed my life. He's a nephrologist. He treat uh his patient that have certain type of diet, diabetes, with fasting program.

• 1:24:20Danny Jones?

  Diabetes and stuff?

• 1:24:21Speaker 02

  Diabetes, sorry. And he gave me a fasting program. And in less than a month. My symptom diminish like in a way that I didn't have any symptom not long after a month. And I start after two month to reduce my my quantity of medication intake. Until the point I no longer need medication and now I can eat whatever I want like no problem. So I don't like I'm like when you when you have ulcer colitis, you're supposed to be stuck for life with it.

• 1:24:59Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:25:00Speaker 02

  It's something that doesn't go away. And I'm the living proof that I mean, I don't know if it went away, but my symptom are not there. I might still have an ulcer colitis, but my symptoms are not there anymore.

• 1:25:11Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:25:12Speaker 02

  And and now I can eat I the reason why I'm fasting is not because I'm forcing myself is because it's just part of my life. And there's time that I go on vacation with my family, I'm having three meals a day, like a breakfast, a lunch and a dinner. But normally, when I'm not hungry, I just don't eat. And I wish Danny that I had that information when I was younger. I wish, man.

• 1:25:38Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:25:39Speaker 02

  Because I think we're bombarded as a human being and I believe as a human being, we're overfed. Tell me which animal eats eats three time a day and snack in between.

• 1:25:50Danny Jones?

  Nothing but us.

• 1:25:51Speaker 02

  I I think I think biologically, we're we're we're made for fasting. If you look at our ancestor, I'm, you know, I love paleontology and you know. I know that we went through the Ice Age, you know, like our ancestor went through Ice Age. I don't think they eat three times a day or they snack in between. I think they they were opportunists.

• 1:26:10Danny Jones?

  They'd be lucky to eat three times a week, probably.

• 1:26:12Speaker 02

  When they had something, they eat as much as they could and then they wait and they because they might not know when is the the next time they're gonna eat. So I think we're perfectly made for these and there's a lot of benefits to fasting.

• 1:26:26Danny Jones?

  So you typically don't eat until after four o'clock every day?

• 1:26:31Speaker 02

  No, no, no. I, I, sometime I eat, uh, I will eat normally, I would say around my fir-, after my first training, which is around beginning of afternoon.

• 1:26:42Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:26:43Speaker 02

  Uh, but I, I also met, uh, different specialists that told me that it's, it's good to change it. You know, sometime it's good to, to do a three days.

• 1:26:55Danny Jones?

  Stay flexible.

• 1:26:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, three days water fast, but then after you eat your three meals a day, then you, you shock your body. Because it's never the same. It's same thing with training. If you do the same training all the time, you will become efficient at it. And it will be, it will not be as good for your body. I think you're, the key is you don't want to adapt. You want to shock your body.

• 1:27:17Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:27:18Speaker 02

  And, and four times a year, I do three days water fast.

• 1:27:22Danny Jones?

  Four times a year?

• 1:27:23Speaker 02

  Four time a year. After the, the holidays, before the summer, after the summer and before the holidays. It's for sure, for, for me, it's, it's very important. And in between sometime I will do a 24 hour or something like that. I will shock my body.

• 1:27:37Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:27:38Speaker 02

  And I feel good. And, and one thing I can tell you for sure, and it happened to me multiple time, where I had little nagging injuries. For example, a few months ago, I had like a Achilles tendon injuries. And it didn't go away. I did rehab and I couldn't sprint for a few weeks because of it. When I did my three days water fast, all the inflammation went away. And after my three day water fast, I was able to run again.

• 1:28:07Danny Jones?

  No way.

• 1:28:08Speaker 02

  I'm not, no kidding. It's, it, and I, I believe the reason why people don't talk much about it is because there's no money to be made.

• 1:28:15Danny Jones?

  Do you do the, um, when you're doing the water fast, do you drink just water or do you mix it with like the lemon and the syrup and stuff like that?

• 1:28:22Speaker 02

  No, if you do that, you break your fast, uh, because you add calories to it. So, so when I do my water fast, Dr. Jason Fung, he, he, he advised me, because I like to stay active, I, I take salt. So what I do is salt doesn't taste good. So I took a little, a pinch of salt in my, the palm of my head, of my, of my hand. Lick it, take water.

• 1:28:46Danny Jones?

  Like a shot of tequila?

• 1:28:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:48Danny Jones?

  This guy?

• 1:28:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's the man. Yeah. He changed my life. Yeah.

• 1:28:53Danny Jones?

  So you have to do the salt once a day?

• 1:28:57Speaker 02

  Uh, no, I do it uh when I wake up uh before my workout and after my workout.

• 1:29:02Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  There's different symptoms that indicate that you might be dehydrated or you know, like for example, salt, you take salt because you don't wanna dehydrate. Because if you don't take salt and you work out, you're not gonna have any mineral to hold the water inside. So when you take salt, it prevents, it prevents you from dehydration. It helps. And um yeah, so, so the symptoms that you might feel sometime when you do a long fast, a long water fast is that you're, you could be dizzy, you could have chill, you know, like you feel cold.

• 1:29:36Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 1:29:37Speaker 02

  These are certain symptoms that indicates that you might not have enough mineral inside your body.

• 1:29:43Danny Jones?

  I did a water fast once and I did it for, my goal was seven days. I think I made it five.

• 1:29:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:50Danny Jones?

  I started Monday and I went all the way to Saturday. Was that right? Or maybe Friday?

• 1:29:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:56Danny Jones?

  And I remember the first two days being complete hell misery. And then like by Wednesday and Thursday, I felt like so amazing. I just felt like so sharp, clear energy, full of energy, just like bubbling with energy 24/7. And I remember I, I'll never forget this. I played on Thursday or Friday. So like four days in, I played full court basketball for like an hour straight with no cramping, no fatigue. Like I usually have to stop and take a rest every 10 minutes. Like I, I didn't have to rest once. I had so mu- I had so much endurance.

• 1:30:38Danny Jones?

  And I also went to the gym and I was able to do like five times the amount of pull ups I could normally do. I was just, I was, I just kept doing pull ups. I didn't have to stop. Like I was not getting fatigued.

• 1:30:48Speaker 02

  Well, would you, before I work out, would you rather be like a hungry lion? Or like a lion that just fed.

• 1:30:56Danny Jones?

  Oh, definitely hungry lion.

• 1:30:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. Same. You know, if you look at nature, you know, they train when they're hun- they're hungry.

• 1:31:03Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm. Sure, they're more vigilant, they're faster, the better at catching prey.

• 1:31:07Speaker 02

  I think so. Of course, you need to make sure you don't dehydrate yourself, you know?

• 1:31:11Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 1:31:12Speaker 02

  But I think you're more efficient, one hundred percent.

• 1:31:14Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:31:15Speaker 02

  And I feel better that way as well. I, I just felt that when I was younger, I didn't pay attention to it because if someone would have talked to me about fasting, I would not have listened because I were bombarded by publicity. Oh, take a protein shake, take this, take that, take that. And.

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• 1:32:34Speaker 02

  Now I realize that is, uh, it is very worth to investigate. It could, it could change people's life.

• 1:32:42Danny Jones?

  Have you ever messed around with exogenous ketones?

• 1:32:45Speaker 02

  Uh, no, I did not.

• 1:32:46Danny Jones?

  Yeah, there's these, uh, they, they, so obviously you know what ketosis is, like when you're fasting, you get your body burns the fat instead of the, um. The carbs and they make exogenous ketones that you can drink. You can pu- you can put the, they make it in a powder or in like a liquid. Where you can just drink it and instantly put yourself into ketosis. So even if you've just eaten or whatever, or if you haven't fasted long enough to be in ketosis and you say you ate a bowl of pasta and you wanna need to be in ketosis later, you can drink this stuff and it like boosts your ketone production in your body. And it's, I'm drinking it, I got it in my water right now.

• 1:33:22Speaker 02

  Oh nice.

• 1:33:22Danny Jones?

  It's fucking amazing stuff.

• 1:33:25Speaker 02

  I know, I know that when you fast, your, your brain feeds off ketones, which is very good, but you need to be in a fasted, fasted state for it. I've, I've never heard of this, it's very interesting.

• 1:33:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah, no, it's great, it's great for, um, like if you wanna, I use it for like pre-workout. If I work out, I'll drink the ketones first and it just gives me more energy and more endurance. Or like sometimes during a podcast where I don't get enough sleep or whatever.

• 1:33:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:47Danny Jones?

  Because I don't, my diet is not as, nearly as good as yours. I have no discipline in my diet.

• 1:33:54Speaker 02

  I don't have a good diet either. The reason why I'm doing fasting is because I don't have a good diet.

• 1:33:59Danny Jones?

  Well, the fasting in itself is discipline. That's, that's, takes a lot, I mean, maybe not for you because you've been doing it for so long, but for me, it takes a ton of discipline. So I'm just like, my life is so chaotic, you know, I have fucking three kids. I'm constantly eating their leftover peanut butter and jelly sandwiches laying around the house and stuff like that. So it's like, it's, uh, I'm just getting by day by day. I'm just like, take, my, my little ketone drinks will, will help me get through the day.

• 1:34:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I mean, everything you're trying to accomplish in life, it, it takes sacrifice, whether if it's for a health purpose or, you know, money or it, it, you need to get out your comfort zone. And I like fasting also because it's very therapeutic. It makes you appreciate, you know, that when I break my fast after three days and I sit down having a meal, even if my friend and family eat the same meal that I do, my meal will taste better than theirs. 100%. And it's something that you really appreciate when you do fasting. And, and when you do a long fast, for example, it's very strange, the, the first. Few hours, you you feel hungry.

• 1:35:07Speaker 02

  Very often it's because you have spike of insulin. You know, because you're used to be fed at that particular period and you're not giving your yourself the food. So you you feel very hungry. Then after a few more hours, the hunger disappear, but you have a drop of energy. And then after that, a few more hours during the last part of your three days water fast, that's what I experienced. You you don't, you have a regain of energy, like you're on sort of survival mode. And that's when things get interesting. And um, yeah, and and then there is phase to it, you know what I mean?

• 1:35:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:47Speaker 02

  But of course, it demands a lot of sacrifice.

• 1:35:49Danny Jones?

  It's really interesting that you said that it helped recover your Achilles injury.

• 1:35:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, because it kills the inflammation. It it's very good to kill the inflammation and it boosts your production of or or of your growth hormone.

• 1:36:02Danny Jones?

  Oh, interesting.

• 1:36:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, if you if you look at it, there's a ton of benefits.

• 1:36:06Danny Jones?

  Do you do you ever mess around with like light therapy stuff, with the red light stuff for injuries? See those panels, the red light?

• 1:36:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I have one in my house. Uh, there's times that I use it, but I I haven't seen. It might it might work, but I I haven't seen a significant difference. What I've seen the biggest significant difference in terms of recovery, if you have an injury, it's it's really fasting.

• 1:36:32Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:36:32Speaker 02

  It suck because it's the most painful one.

• 1:36:34Danny Jones?

  It is the most painful.

• 1:36:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, but.

• 1:36:36Danny Jones?

  And I can't buy a, I can't buy a device that will just help me cheat.

• 1:36:40Speaker 02

  Bro, I know. Fa- fasting for me, it's a, it's it's borderline magic. I really love it. They what for everything that related to inflammation is for me, I think it's it's it's the best that I have experienced in. I better than anything.

• 1:36:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah, and I bet too, like, it's gotta be way harder when you're traveling around the world all the time.

• 1:37:02Speaker 02

  Well, I think the best time to fast is when you're very busy. You were saying earlier that you, oh, you have your kid, this, that. But I think it's the best time if is when you look at your schedule and you're it's full. That's the best time to do it because you're not gonna, you're gonna be distracted.

• 1:37:18Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:37:19Speaker 02

  And that one trick also that I use when I'm fasting that was given by Dr. Fang is to drink um um sparkling water.

• 1:37:28Danny Jones?

  Really, when you're fasting?

• 1:37:29Speaker 02

  Yes, and some people also, I don't do it, but some people, they need dark coffee. I mean, they're addicted to coffee, which I am a little bit, but I'm able during those fasting days to not having any coffee. But if you have to drink your coffee, drink black coffee.

• 1:37:45Danny Jones?

  Black coffee.

• 1:37:46Speaker 02

  Or tea, it's better, like a green tea, it's more recommended.

• 1:37:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:37:53Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I noticed, um, I noticed when I travel to other countries, that's I feel, even if I'm not fasting, if I'm eating their food, I often feel like I just like, I feel more energy. I don't feel like bogged down by like all the gluten and the shit that's in the food over here. And like, you know, I can even go, like, if I just go to like a South American country, I can eat pizza and french fries and I still feel light as a feather.

• 1:38:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, their standard are better than ours, especially for example, in Europe. If you eat pasta in Italy or France and you eat the pasta or bread here, it's different.

• 1:38:30Danny Jones?

  Way different.

• 1:38:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, they have a higher standard. And you talk about fasting. One thing that I do when I travel in a different time zone, I try as much as possible, because I'm human, I'm, I'm, I still do it sometime. I try to not eat in the plane, especially, I try to eat at the time to that destination that I'm going at.

• 1:38:53Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I do the same thing, because we all know the plane food is dog shit. You know, that plane food ain't coming from anywhere good. They microwave all that shit covered in cellophane and.

• 1:39:03Speaker 02

  And it also makes you eat in a not a natural time. So when you arrive at your destination, you're all fucked up because you ate at your previous destination time zone, you know? So it doesn't help you to beat the jet lag.

• 1:39:16Danny Jones?

  Hmm, you've been to Egypt, right?

• 1:39:19Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:39:20Danny Jones?

  You've been to the pyramids?

• 1:39:21Speaker 02

  Yes, I did.

• 1:39:22Danny Jones?

  Somebody was on this podcast was telling me a story, I, I don't remember who it was, because I've had so many people talk about the pyramids on this podcast.

• 1:39:30Speaker 02

  I went with Jimmy Corsetti.

• 1:39:32Danny Jones?

  That's who it was. So Jimmy was saying that he was in the Great Pyramid with you.

• 1:39:35Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:39:35Danny Jones?

  And you sat in the, one of the granite box, the granite box in the king's chamber.

• 1:39:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll, I'll give you the picture, um.

• 1:39:43Danny Jones?

  And he said like something happened to you after. You had some sort of like prophetic download or something.

• 1:39:48Speaker 02

  Well, I, I was always very interested about ancient civilization and.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  I've read a lot of the, you know, the mainstream archaeological book about the pyramids, you know, it's supposed to be a tomb, a tomb, a tomb for a kufu that was built 4,500 years ago.

• 1:40:12Speaker 02

  And, uh, you know, I was never really convinced by that, you know, like, so I wanted to go see it for myself, you know? And when I was there, I was presented different evidence, like a tool, like you could see like a different tool mark on the rock that are clearly not made by a copper, copper, uh, shizzle. Sure. And, uh, drill, drill, drilling a hole on rose granite. Uh, that, that is weird, you know, like, how is it done, you know? And when you go into the pyramid, I mean, first,

• 1:40:53Speaker 02

  you should not be claustrophobic, claustrophobic if you go there because it's, it's, there, there's a passage that you go in there, it's very tight, then it, it'll enlarge a little bit and, and then after you, you end up in the, in the king's, they call it the king's chamber. And I went there and I had a, a special privilege that was given to me. They made me lay down in the box. You're not supposed to do that and I hope nobody will get in trouble because I, I've done it and I don't wanna, you know, the guy who made me do it is, he was very nice and they blocked the, the passage. So when I was laying down,

• 1:41:34Speaker 02

  the guy that was with me went on the corner of the room and the room is about the size of this one. And he went and I didn't know what he was doing. I was laying down in the, in the box. And he says, they said, they told me, close your eyes and I felt of a vibration, but a very good vibration, like, like, uh, like very good vibration, like, uh, something positive, like.

• 1:42:00Speaker 02

  And after I, when the vibrations stopped, I got out of it and I made a joke to Jimmy. I was like, I'm coming back to fighting. And it was a joke, obviously, no, but I, I, I felt very re-energized, you know, like, because it was a, a very positive vibration. And then they let people in again and, and I asked, I said, what the hell happened? What, like, what, what was that? It was that vibration and they said, there was a guy that went in the corner and he did the, um, like he did it just like this. And but I couldn't hear him, but I was feeling his vibration.

• 1:42:34Danny Jones?

  Whoa.

• 1:42:35Speaker 02

  Which indicate to me, you know, if you're trying to prove something with evidence, there is objective evidence and subjective, you know? Objective evidence is when you lay down, you know, solid proof. I don't have that, like, the only thing I can tell you is that I felt a vibration.

• 1:42:57Speaker 02

  And it convinced me. It, it was so good that it convinced me that it has something to do with acoustic or vibration, or maybe harnessing the, the, the power of the planet or, I don't know, man, I don't believe now, I don't think, I'm not sure if it was a tomb. I, I, I don't jump to conclusion. I need more, I think it's important to collect all the data, especially now that you have this, uh, guy, Filippio Biondi, that has a tomography image underneath the Giza Plateau. I don't know if you've seen that with the spiral, the thing that goes down. I think it's like almost a kilometer down. It's insane.

• 1:43:34Speaker 02

  I think it needs to be investigated further before going, jumping to a conclusion and saying, oh, it's the tom, a tom, a tomb for a Kufu, because now, I don't know why this could be only a tomb if you have the, all those, those things, you know?

• 1:43:49Danny Jones?

  It is bizarre how you felt that from laying in that box in the chamber. Because that, it's been proven that it's been measured by scientists that that chamber resonates at a certain frequency.

• 1:44:04Danny Jones?

  Um, a certain hurts. I remember Chris Dunn was on the podcast a couple of years ago and he was explaining, he was said he was measuring it.

• 1:44:10Speaker 02

  Uh, uh, yeah, he's in a, uh, Chris Dunn is an engineer, a, a, a, a.

• 1:44:15Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:44:16Speaker 02

  Aeronautic engineer.

• 1:44:17Danny Jones?

  Aeronautic engineer, exactly. Yeah. And then he, um.

• 1:44:21Speaker 02

  He believes it's a power plant. It was a power plant.

• 1:44:23Danny Jones?

  He believes it was an ancient, uh, power plant, a solid state electron harvester. He thinks it was like harvesting electrons.

• 1:44:29Speaker 02

  After feel, having that experience that I had, I, I went, I went there. I didn't know, you know, I wanted to see it for myself. And after having that experience, now I, I, I'm more inclined to believe Christopher Dunn than the mainstream explanation, saying it was constructed to be a tomb. I mean.

• 1:44:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it really doesn't make sense that like, how, cause the, the passages are so tiny and like.

• 1:44:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's weird.

• 1:44:57Danny Jones?

  What do you need all these other passages for? And, you know, the amount of time that it would take to do it, it just, it doesn't fit. It doesn't fit. It resonates at what? A hundred and eleven? That doesn't sound right.

• 1:45:11Danny Jones?

  That's the Serapeum. That's why.

• 1:45:14Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. Serapeum is different.

• 1:45:15Danny Jones?

  King's chamber, great pyramid.

• 1:45:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's a, it's a, Serapeum is the box.

• 1:45:19Danny Jones?

  That's the, those, that's the other side.

• 1:45:21Speaker 02

  But this, this, this Serapeum is another mystery.

• 1:45:24Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:45:25Speaker 02

  There's tons of mystery in the world. Like, I mean, you talk about Egypt, you have, you have the, the pre, pre dynastic vases that are a mystery. That there's tons of it. It's not only the pyramids. There is.

• 1:45:37Danny Jones?

  The, the vases were debunked.

• 1:45:39Speaker 02

  Pre dynastic vase. Oh, they've been debunked?

• 1:45:41Danny Jones?

  I know. I'm so sad.

• 1:45:43Speaker 02

  Really? Uh?

• 1:45:43Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm very upset about it. Um, we.

• 1:45:48Speaker 02

  Well, it's, if, we should not attach any emotion with, it is debunked, is debunked. You know what I mean?

• 1:45:54Danny Jones?

  So we had.

• 1:45:55Speaker 02

  I was, I was not aware of it. I can't.

• 1:45:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah. We had a nuclear engineer, or nuclear physicist, um, on the podcast. And he's very much invested in, uh, those granite, like he's, he's was obsessed with this ancient stuff and he saw all the evidence for the, um, for the granite bases.

• 1:46:14Danny Jones?

  And um, God, I wish I could remember this correctly, but basically he did, he found out that all of the, out of all of the granite vases that exist that we found inside of the pyramid and in private collections, there's people that, there's like lots of guys who have purchased a lot of these vases. He's gotten access to the private collections and the vases that exist in the museums and he's measured them all. And I, I could be butchering this a little bit, so go watch that, find out that guy's name so we could, what's his name?

• 1:46:43Speaker 02

  Max Zamelov.

• 1:46:44Danny Jones?

  Max Zamelov, we did a podcast with him. And out of all of the vases that he measured, the most precise, perfect ones that were like, they could only been made on a CNC machine.

• 1:46:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:57Danny Jones?

  Those were modern vases. They were made, they were made in modern times. They weren't made in ancient times.

• 1:47:02Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:47:03Danny Jones?

  The ones that were like fucked up, not symmetrical, those were the ones that were ancient.

• 1:47:07Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:47:08Danny Jones?

  So.

• 1:47:09Speaker 02

  I wasn't aware of that.

• 1:47:10Danny Jones?

  It doesn't, it doesn't necessarily prove that it's debunked debunked, but it, it throws a massive wrench.

• 1:47:17Speaker 02

  But you know, you know, it's important because the problem is people attach their emotion to an idea and they shouldn't attach the emotion. They should just look at the data. It's fun to speculate, like me, I'm the same way. I love to speculate.

• 1:47:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:34Speaker 02

  But is it a tomb, a tomb for Kufu? Is it made, I don't know, from an ancient civilization or alien or whatever? Like it's fun to speculate.

• 1:47:43Danny Jones?

  Well, look, we're all human beings on this earth and we all have access to the same evidence.

• 1:47:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:49Danny Jones?

  Right? So why is it that your, your explanation for it is superior to mine? We can both see the same evidence and we can both argue. And whoever has the better argument, you know, doesn't mean you should, just because it doesn't fit the old story, doesn't mean that it has to be some conspiracy theory to label those person as kooks and anti-academic. Like it's, that's not how it works.

• 1:48:13Speaker 02

  But they, they, they clearly add knowledge or a technique that, that, that was lost. Like this is un, un, un, un-diable. Like like

• 1:48:23Danny Jones?

  There's the Petri core that was found that they uh Chris Dunn measured it where it's a granite core that was taken out of a piece of granite.

• 1:48:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, the revolution by

• 1:48:34Danny Jones?

  And they they they they uh wrapped a s- a thread around the whole thing. And they somehow determined that whatever drilled that must have had so much power to be able to drill that thing out of granite. There's there's no conventional explanation of how they would have done that 2,500 years ago or 4,000 years ago, whatever it was.

• 1:48:52Speaker 02

  But you you know, Danny, there's no really good conventional explanation for the pyramid, for sex women in uh in in South America, for Balbek. I went to Balbek and I saw the Trilaton. The Temple of Jupiter is Roman, but the platform underneath where they have like 800 tons stone. They're called the Trilaton and they're not even on the base. I was there with Jimmy Corseti.

• 1:49:20Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:49:21Speaker 02

  This is

• 1:49:21Danny Jones?

  It's a one massive piece, right?

• 1:49:23Speaker 02

  Oh, they brought they brought it from a a quarry that is like 4 400 meter in a hill. Like, how the hell they they yeah, they will say they use lug. Maybe that would a lug will a few lug will do if you bring something of a few ton, but how they they did for 800 tons. And there's even in the quarry, there's stone that are carves, but they're they they were left there. And the explanation is that, oh, they were these one were too heavy, so they I'm like, it looks to me like the work was interrupt by something like like there was something going on. They were in in the middle of a construction and it they got interrupted

• 1:50:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:02Speaker 02

  by something. And maybe later on, the the Roman came and and built on top of it. So that's I think if you look at the pyramid, also the the convention explanation. They they use different evidence from like the papyrus. They have a papyrus evidence that they they the Egyptian work on on the pyramid.

• 1:50:22Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:50:22Speaker 02

  They they they lab- the the labor, you know, they were not they were not um slave, they were labor. They and they say, oh, they brought this this tone. They they have they describe what they're doing, but maybe they were Remodeling it, maybe they did not build it, maybe they like over the century, there are different civilizations that went there, they repair, you know, maybe that's what it is.

• 1:50:49Danny Jones?

  And I'm sure they did use it as a tomb, like they, I'm sure they, they, they found this crazy monumental structure.

• 1:50:54Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 1:50:55Danny Jones?

  And they're like, we're gonna bury our kings in there, you know?

• 1:50:58Speaker 02

  Maybe, I mean, it's fun to speculate, but I don't know, like, I mean, I, I, I prefer, I love to speculate, I prefer not give any conclusion, keep it open.

• 1:51:09Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:10Speaker 02

  But the, the, the conclusion that was presented to me that is a tomb for Kufu, it doesn't satisfy me.

• 1:51:16Danny Jones?

  No.

• 1:51:17Speaker 02

  It does not satisfy me.

• 1:51:19Danny Jones?

  Have you ever heard of the land of chem? There's a guy named Jeffrey Drum, he's a YouTube channel called The Land of Chem, he lives in Egypt, uh, right across the street from the Giza Plateau. And he has the best breakdown, scientific breakdown explanation of what the great pyramids were. And he also connects it to all the pyramids in South America. And he, what, basically, what he thinks they were is they were chemical and industrial manufacturing plants, he thinks that they were

• 1:51:54Danny Jones?

  basically factories to extract the natural

• 1:51:59Danny Jones?

  chemicals like ammonia and sulfur dioxide and things like this from the earth. So that they could use it for agriculture and metallurgy and metal production.

• 1:52:13Danny Jones?

  And he like, he, he's not just saying this, he, he literally backs it up like exactly how those pyramids, like he does diagrams of all the pyramids, like the red pyramid, the bent pyramid, the great pyramid, the middle pyramid, and the small one, and with all of the chambers, he connects it all. Like this one made this chemical, which then transferred to this one, which made this chemical. And then this one transferred to these two, and they used the chemical that came out of that for fertilizer, which could also be used for metallurgy and metal production, and.

• 1:52:52Danny Jones?

  Like he even like he ties in the different types of stones that are used in each pyramid and how those certain stones conduct electricity to specifically produce that chemical. And it's just, it's so in-depth and complex. It's like, the thing about it is it's not like, it's not a sexy theory like, ooh, it was like a, it was a free energy power plant, you know, where they could distribute free energy in power flying saucers. No, it's more mundane. It's extracting natural resources from the earth. But it like also uses electricity from lightning and telluric currents. So he claims that like,

• 1:53:34Danny Jones?

  there was, there was wind currents that were coming across the Giza Plateau and going up the pyramid and creating thunderstorms. And the lightning was striking it and somehow they were, and he, he uses that to like tie into the agriculture side of it. And what's interesting is he also uses that theory and ties it into different, other ancient sites around the world. Like in, there's one in England, White Horse Hills, and then there's also Stonehenge. And he, he makes a very compelling case to how all these ancient

• 1:54:11Danny Jones?

  sites are tied together as far as like creating storms to bring rain for the purpose of agriculture. And he, he connects it to, to Mexico and South American pyramid sites. And dude, it's, it's an amazing theory.

• 1:54:30Speaker 02

  It's an interesting theory. One thing for sure that is puzzling is that they, they add knowledge or a technique that we don't know. Like, like, I mean, this is...

• 1:54:40Danny Jones?

  They were on a totally different trajectory.

• 1:54:43Speaker 02

  And you don't have to go back that far. Just take, for example, you can look it up, Greek fire. It was a weapon that was used by the Byzantine Empire.

• 1:54:57Speaker 02

  It was described by many historians as so terrifying that people were afraid. And it was like the equivalent of the atomic bomb for the ancient world. They, the way is that it's described is they used to throw flame to a enemy ship. And even if you go in the water, you keep burning. They think it was made of a mix of petrol and, you know, because it's stick to you and it keeps burning. They, they tried to recreate it today, but they don't know exactly how it was made. The cocktail was secret. So this is just a very- It's crazy. We haven't, we haven't found any texts to say what, to have like the ingredients of it. Yeah, because it was kept secret. It was the Byzantine Empire that had access to that technology. Find a description of it.

• 1:55:42Speaker 02

  But it's probably much older, it could be much older than that. There, there's tons of examples when you go in different archaeological sites. That are puzzling like, how the hell they did that? Maybe they had access to certain knowledge that we lost over time. Because wars or, you know, maybe a catastrophe. Right. Just look at the Hermetics. You know, the, the seven principle of Hermetics. The mentalist, correspondence, vibration. You have rhythm, you have causality, the polarity, gender. You know, they, now, Hermetics, it's, it, it, it, according to the source, it's born in antiquity.

• 1:56:25Speaker 02

  But the root of it goes back far, far back. You know, like in ancient Egypt, Hermes trismegistus, toad. So if you, if you go back to their, their, if, if you trace back the roots, man, what, how come they, they knew that at the time? You know what I mean? Those principles that now with science, we can apply that. You know, if you, I'm sure you heard as, as above, so below. Yeah. You know, like it's one of the principle of Hermetics is correspondence. You know, if you look at things that are very small, sometime it resemble the things that are extremely big to the, in the universe. Yes. This is one of the concept, but how did they? They knew that back then, you know what I mean?

• 1:57:09Speaker 02

  There's tons of example like this, that knowledge that I believe was lost because of different reasons. And I think sometime people have the tendency to believe that our that our ancestors, when you go far, far back in the past, they were dumb. But maybe they were much smarter than we believe.

• 1:57:29Danny Jones?

  Dude, I had, hold on, I want to read it with this Greek fire before I say this. Greek fire was created, uh, what was it? It says Syrian architect. The exact chemical makeup of the weapon is unknown. However, the fact that water is unable to extinguish it leads some to speculate. The active ingredients was calcium phosphide made by hearing, heating lime, bones and charcoal. On contact with water, calcium phosphide releases phosphine, which ignites spontaneously, actually making the weapon equally dangerous, if not more so on water as it is on land. That's fucking nuts.

• 1:58:08Speaker 02

  They, they, they had back then, um, it's called alchemy. I don't know if you've ever. And you know, it's, it's part of hermetics is the alchemy, the science of alchemy. And if you, even Isaac Newton was obsessed about alchemy. Isaac Newton, one of probably the biggest, the best brain, pound for pound, best brain of all time. So it makes you wonder, you know, like how much they knew, like what what kind of knowledge they had back then, you know? And I don't know when exactly, but I would love to see how the pyramid were built, how Baalbek, the platform on, on

• 1:58:53Speaker 02

  Baalbek was built, the temple of Jupiter, under the temple of Jupiter, Saksewam, Derenkuu, Gobekli Tepe, Stonehenge. And Machu Picchu, you know, I would love to see that, man.

• 1:59:07Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:08Speaker 02

  Maybe there, there is something that we don't think of that they, maybe they add access, a certain technique or knowledge, I have no idea.

• 1:59:15Danny Jones?

  I had this lady on recently who's a psychologist from Harvard and she made the case to me that the, the invention of the written word.

• 1:59:27Danny Jones?

  Is the catalyst that could potentially spiral that potentially spiraled humanity into chaos to where we are now. And the case she made for it, the way she explained it was the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve. And she says, the apple, the apple from the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge resembled written knowledge. And she said, the difference between that type of knowledge and internal knowledge, like pure knowing something.

• 2:00:08Danny Jones?

  She says that by its very nature, the written word is deceiving.

• 2:00:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like it's subject to interpretation.

• 2:00:18Danny Jones?

  It's exactly so. So, so it is inherently deceptive, whether on purpose or not. So if you write something down in the year 10 AD. And now here we are 2,000 years later. That it's nowhere near what the truth was. And she thinks, she thinks potentially that invention, the ubiquity of the written word being directly responsible for humans gaining knowledge could be what led us astray.

• 2:01:00Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:01:01Danny Jones?

  From, from maybe what the ancient people knew and maybe what they were doing compared to the trajectory we're on now.

• 2:01:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:01:09Danny Jones?

  Because everyone who, when you want to know anything, when you want to learn anything, you're, you're constantly digesting, reading books, watching videos, listening to audio, whatever, it's not necessarily. Intuitive, you're not, you're not, you're not using intuition.

• 2:01:27Speaker 02

  You, you cannot think outside of your frame of reference, right? It, it, it's like, if I ask you, for example, to draw a monster, you might draw two head, three arms, five legs, but you don't come up with something original. So what you're saying is maybe in their, what they meant, it was something different than when we read, we see it as, because we take it from our frame of reference, but maybe they have a different frame of reference that they could extract.

• 2:01:53Danny Jones?

  Right, totally. And not just the words can change over time, but the cultures change.

• 2:01:57Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 2:01:58Danny Jones?

  And every, everything, the whole world changes. So like, and then you could have people that are trying to use it to their advantage, people trying to make money off of it, or whatever it is, it's just, it's, her, her point was just going, going back to that, the apple from the tree of knowledge.

• 2:02:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:13Danny Jones?

  And like written knowledge versus intuitive knowledge.

• 2:02:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:16Danny Jones?

  Right? And you mean like, you know, like, when, when you're, when you're fighting and you're trying to remember something versus not thinking, when your brain turns off.

• 2:02:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:02:27Danny Jones?

  That's what the, where the magic is.

• 2:02:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, when you're in the zone, man.

• 2:02:30Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:31Speaker 02

  In fighting, you don't have time to think. If you're, if you, if you're thinking, you're losing the opportunity.

• 2:02:38Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:02:39Speaker 02

  The thinking is done during the preparation.

• 2:02:41Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:02:42Speaker 02

  When you fight, you have to flow, be in the zone.

• 2:02:44Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:45Speaker 02

  Be reactive, going by instinct. We say instinct, but you sort of program your instinct.

• 2:02:51Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:02:52Speaker 02

  To react accordingly to the problem that is presented in front of you. And this is done during the preparation.

• 2:02:58Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:02:59Speaker 02

  And there's different kind of preparation for, whether you're an athlete, a performer, a businessman, I believe, and this is only me, and this is a concept that really helped me, there's a physical preparation as an athlete. Like, are you in shape? Are you injury free? You know, your body is healthy? This is the first layer, the physical. Then you go up, it's like a pyramid, you go up the second layer, the technical, your knowledge, do you know how to do an arm bar, how to escape a triangle choke? You know, knowledge is very important.

• 2:03:33Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:03:33Speaker 02

  Then you have a third la-layer, tactical. How your strength match against your opponent's strength? How will you?

• 2:03:44Speaker 02

  Take him out of his comfort zone and bring him where you're the most comfortable. This is tactic and this this layer I think makes makes the difference between champion and contenders. And there's a last one that makes difference, I believe, between in between the champion, the guy that gonna be champion, but the guy gonna be a legend. Who's gonna be like, like gonna write his his name down in history. Yeah. It's the visualization and a lot of people will roll their eyes thinking it's sort of esoteric, but I I truly believe in that. It's part of the preparation.

• 2:04:26Speaker 02

  I believe that you need to force yourself to visualize your success.

• 2:04:33Speaker 02

  There's a a book that was written called The Secret and I don't agree with their their certain concept that they say, but I agree with some others. I don't think it's the gold, your goal that will come towards you like it's written in that book. I believe it's you that needs to go towards the goal.

• 2:04:55Speaker 02

  I think it's important to visualize before every fight, even before I start fighting, I was visualizing myself to do what I want to do to success. And down the road, you force yourself to visualize, but sometime what happened when you're in the middle of doing something, you have a vision that pops up in your head that is negative, where you see yourself failing. Or let's say I have a fight coming up, I see myself getting dropped by a punch. I believe it is very important when those vision pops in your head

• 2:05:28Speaker 02

  to force yourself to see how you're gonna get the upper end in the situation. So you don't end the vision on a negative note because up here you want to be champion, you want to be to be undefeated, undisputed. Because if you finish your visualization on a negative note, it will leave a scar. And you have to always be the best up here.

• 2:05:56Speaker 02

  I had the ritual that I used to do before every fight. I'm not a, someone who's, uh, how do you say, um,

• 2:06:05Speaker 02

  what's that word, uh,

• 2:06:09Speaker 02

  like, I, I, I, I used to have a ritual that I used to do, but it was to prepare me mentally. As a visualization. Before every fight, I was trying to see my- Like a meditation? Medit- not a medit- it's a sort of meditation, but before every fight, I was like, doing the same thing. When I wake up the morning of a fight, I always have a, have a shitty night of sleep because I, I keep rehearsing scenarios that might happen in the fight and it drives me nuts because of my obsessive compulsive, uh, nature. Yeah. So I wake up in the morning, I feel like shit, but I force myself to act like it's gonna be a great day and I'm happy to be there. So I, I wake up, clap my hands, today is gonna be a great day.

• 2:06:54Speaker 02

  And it's a little bit like a ritual. Because after I, I, I wake up, I meet the rest of my team for breakfast. And they all know how I feel because they, they've been with me for decades. They all know that I had a shitty night of sleep, that I'm nervous, extremely uncomfortable, but they are themselves playing their role in the play. So they come to me and say, "Hey, George, how was your night?" "I had a great night of sleep. Tonight, we're gonna kick ass. I can't wait." "Oh yeah, I feel you, man, I feel you." But they're playing their, their role because if someone doesn't play the role, it, there's a breach in the armor. You know, like there, there is like, uh, so we all play a role. We fake it until you make it. Right.

• 2:07:39Speaker 02

  So I go wa- so I like to go walk when I have access to the, the, the place where I'm gonna fight, I like to, to go in my locker room be the day of or the day before. I, I make a walk from my locker room and I try to visualize how it will be, the crowd, everything. To try to feel that, how it's gonna be. So when I do that and it happened for real after, I feel like I, I have done it before. So it's, it does, it's not the first time that it happened. So I know the ending of the movie. It's a good ending. It makes me feel confident. So I try to sort of hip, self hypnosis myself for success.

• 2:08:21Speaker 02

  And I, as I'm walking, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to imagine the crowd, then I go in the octagon, I shadow box, I try to image, try to think of different scenario that might happen and this, then I finish, my coach raised my hand, and then I go back in the locker room, I imagine that the fight is over and I, I won the belt and I, I've, I've been doing this through all my career. And I realized that I even did it when I was a kid. My mom used to, because when I was a kid growing up, I was bullied as a kid. I didn't have a lot of friends. And later, when I started having friends, my friends were not cool people, they were intellectual people, and I was an intellectual guy as well. You know, I was just a good athlete, you know?

• 2:09:06Danny Jones?

  With intellectual guys with huge, huge traps and cauliflower.

• 2:09:09Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I was not always like that, but, but, but I realized that my mom did that subliminal hypnosis for me at a very young age. She used to buy a tape, and before I go to bed, I used to listen to tape. You know tape like saying, "If you want, everything is possible. I work hard, I'm strong, I'm beautiful." And, and then after, it, it lasts for maybe fifteen, twenty minutes, and then after you have a sound wave.

• 2:09:38Speaker 02

  I used to, I used to listen to these tapes every day before I go to bed. Cause my mom knew that I had, I was victim of, of, uh,

• 2:09:49Danny Jones?

  Bullying and stuff.

• 2:09:50Speaker 02

  Bullying, and I grew up with a lot of negativity, growing up. My, my dad was drinking, you know, it was a tough environment when I grew up. Then it turns out, well, he stopped, he, he, he really inspired me. But, but the point is, there's different phases of preparation. There's a physical, technical, tactical, and there's a mental one that I think.

• 2:10:13Speaker 02

  People will not believe, but I believe is that's what makes the difference between the legend and the one that the people that that go beyond being champion, they make a legacy. And I think it's it's very important, you know, the power of your mind.

• 2:10:29Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it is wild how you can use your mind to visualize and sort of manifest reality.

• 2:10:35Speaker 02

  Because when you have an idea, when you materialize an idea in your head, it have an effect on your emotion.

• 2:10:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:42Speaker 02

  And your emotion is what control your hormones, your hormones control your actions.

• 2:10:47Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:10:48Speaker 02

  Your action make it real in the materialistic world. So the idea, which to the eyes of most of people is not real, can in fact through that process, make it real in the world we live in.

• 2:11:04Danny Jones?

  Right, right. You can use tricks to you can trick your brain.

• 2:11:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:11:09Danny Jones?

  In in certain ways.

• 2:11:10Speaker 02

  And this is by the way, is a concept of hermetic, it's the mentalist. Every all all we experience is in our mind.

• 2:11:17Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:11:18Speaker 02

  So it's it's a very interesting, all those concept come.

• 2:11:22Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:23Speaker 02

  Come real, you know.

• 2:11:24Danny Jones?

  No, that stuff's really real. That stuff's for sure real. And I mean, I've used stuff like that too, like in like similar to you, like when I'm feeling, you know, when you when you feel not confident or or fearful, using changing the way you walk or the way you breathe, like just start breathing like you're confident or start walking like you're super confident, and it changes your mind. Like it's a it's a loop, it's a feedback from your brain to your body.

• 2:11:51Speaker 02

  James Land, you know.

• 2:11:53Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:54Speaker 02

  He says that your your mind can dictate your actions.

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• 2:13:00Speaker 02

  You know, but also your action can transform you.

• 2:13:04Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:13:04Speaker 02

  From the outside.

• 2:13:05Danny Jones?

  It works both ways.

• 2:13:06Speaker 02

  In. It works. And very often in life, and I'm, I'm no different than anyone. I make the mistake as well.

• 2:13:15Speaker 02

  Because I'm sort of paranoid by nature, like because maybe the

• 2:13:21Speaker 02

  my background, I'm from fighting the art of war. So I like to over prepare myself for certain things. So by nature, when something happen, I like to be prepared. But sometime I'm taking too much energy of expecting the worst to come. And it creates more anxiety and stress. So it's not always a good thing. For, for a fighter is a good thing. You want to be that, that way.

• 2:13:45Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:45Speaker 02

  But for an everyday life, sometime it doesn't help me. It, it, it's very negative. So I have to work on myself a lot.

• 2:13:53Danny Jones?

  Yeah. You know, one of the, one of the misconceptions I had about jujitsu before I got into it is I always had this idea that dudes who are like really good at fighting and stuff like this, they would have less egos. Like it was a, it was a misconception I had. And then when I got into jujitsu, I'm like, all these dudes have the biggest ego.

• 2:14:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:16Danny Jones?

  It's like, oh, I walk into a fucking club and I, I could beat his ass. I could beat his ass.

• 2:14:20Speaker 02

  You know what jujitsu means is the art of softness.

• 2:14:24Danny Jones?

  Is that what it actually means?

• 2:14:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To be flexible, to be soft, to be, I know because I have it here.

• 2:14:31Danny Jones?

  Oh, that's what that means.

• 2:14:32Speaker 02

  Yes. So it has a meaning.

• 2:14:34Danny Jones?

  Is that Japanese?

• 2:14:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. It, it, it has a meaning. It means that flexible in a way that you could be very nice, very cool, but also very rude, very hard.

• 2:14:43Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:14:44Speaker 02

  And that's why I had that tattoo to represent me. But it's true what you said. I mean,

• 2:14:51Speaker 02

  but for me, I feel that the more dangerous you become. The more you realize how

• 2:15:02Speaker 02

  the more you realize how vulnerable you are. Look, I was world champion in MMA. If someone who strong walk behind me, tap me on the shoulder and sucker punch me, he can knock me out. Like, of course, if he miss me, he's gonna have been trouble. But what I'm saying is just that we're all human beings. If I zig when I should have zagged and I get punched, I can lose a fight myself as well. Of course, the odds are not on the other guys, you know, on the favor on the other guys. But I'm just saying that you realize when you do martial art, how vulnerable you become. So, yes, it helps your confidence. You walk into a room, you know, you have what it takes to take your business.

• 2:15:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:48Speaker 02

  But on the other hand, it also makes you realize that, man, you could, you know, how easy you could, you know.

• 2:15:57Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:15:58Speaker 02

  Finish in the bad hem.

• 2:16:00Danny Jones?

  I would rather be the guy with overly confident, who has the skill and the experience than the guy who's overly confident with none of it.

• 2:16:09Speaker 02

  No, no, 100%, 100%. But there is guys that are pretty badass, man, that, you know what I mean?

• 2:16:16Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:17Speaker 02

  You cannot judge a book by the cover.

• 2:16:20Danny Jones?

  What is it? Is it? Is it a real phenomenon, like, for you? Like, being the dude you are? Like, have you ever gone out into public? Is it common for people to try to, like, fuck with you more? Or try to, like, you know?

• 2:16:34Speaker 02

  It's very rare.

• 2:16:35Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:16:36Speaker 02

  It's very, very rare. It happens maybe two, three times recently. Like, I mean, when I say recently, the last maybe three decades, you know? Maybe not three decades, but two decades, maybe three times. But normally, I strongly believe that you attract.

• 2:16:55Speaker 02

  What you send off to the world. I'm I'm I try to be respectful to everyone.

• 2:17:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:02Speaker 02

  And I'm not a cocky person. I I am. If someone trying to get in trouble with get trouble with me, I I I feel the the heat rising. I you know, I give, yeah, yeah, it's fine. For me, it's no ego. I don't I don't have that ego. I don't.

• 2:17:16Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:17:16Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 2:17:17Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:17:18Speaker 02

  And um, I was always very good, especially when I was fighting, to put a shield around myself. Um.

• 2:17:27Speaker 02

  Guys were were trying to get under my skin because I I always believed that I was the best. And the only way they could win the fight if if I derail from what I'm supposed to do. That's confident, you know, I I was extremely scared, afraid, but I was confident.

• 2:17:48Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:17:48Speaker 02

  It's different. The the the being confidence i- i- is not the absence of fear. Being confident is knowing that you have what you need in order to succeed. It's very, very important to differentiate the two.

• 2:18:02Danny Jones?

  Did you, was it common for you to question yourself or your abilities? Was that like a common thing for you? Or did you always know internally that you were the best?

• 2:18:13Speaker 02

  You have faith in yourself, but you're never one hundred percent sure. It's normal to question yourself. It's a little bit like, um, for certain people, God or the the the architect of the universe, you know, the great architect of the universe is there, is there, is there? I believe there there there is one, but I don't have the solid proof.

• 2:18:36Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:18:37Speaker 02

  I always believe I was the best, but I I don't have the solid proof. I need to prove it. But before before I prove it, you know, I I don't know for sure, but I have faith in myself.

• 2:18:49Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:18:50Speaker 02

  And also sometime you have to consider the fact that. Even if you're the best, you think you're the best, it's not the best guy that wins the fight.

• 2:18:59Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:18:59Speaker 02

  Like in, in a game of basketball, you talk about basketball, it's not the best team that wins the game. Same thing in hockey, baseball, basket, like football. The guy that will win the fight is the guy that will fight the best the night of the fight. Cause otherwise it would be boring. We will always know who will win, right? So that's why there, there is betting odds.

• 2:19:21Danny Jones?

  So many different variables, right?

• 2:19:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, if you zig when you shoot a zig, there are so many different things that can affect the performance. So it's impossible to know.

• 2:19:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:19:34Speaker 02

  And, and the real question, like now you, you, you get into the realm of a philosophy and, and deeper into this is do you believe in free will or do you believe in determinism? Is everything predetermined like a, like a domino effect? Or is there a free will?

• 2:19:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:19:52Speaker 02

  So I, I don't know. I, I, I, I want to believe that I have free will, but sometime logic, logically, if I try to reason on that, it's hard for me to, to, to have a, a good argument against causality.

• 2:20:07Danny Jones?

  Hmm. Yeah, there's, it's, it's an interesting question, you know, cause there, there, there is evidence that there's weird, have you heard of, um,

• 2:20:19Danny Jones?

  what are the dreams called where we predict the future? People have dreams.

• 2:20:22Speaker 02

  Premonition.

• 2:20:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah, like premonitions and, um, people, there's been multiple verified accounts through history of people having dreams about things before they happen. Like nine 11, there was a bunch of people who had dreams about that and documented it before the plane hit the towers. Also, the Titanic was another one and, um,

• 2:20:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, like Michel de Notre Dame, Nostradamus is a famous one.

• 2:20:52Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 2:20:52Speaker 02

  Predict there's a gonna world war.

• 2:20:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:54Speaker 02

  That, that thing is, it's, it's hard with these things is that. Is the

• 2:21:00Danny Jones?

  precognitive dreams, that's the term I was looking for.

• 2:21:03Speaker 02

  It's the interpretation.

• 2:21:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:21:05Speaker 02

  Because they never say, right? They never say, oh, this guy gonna do that. It's never precise. I mean, it's sort of vague and it's after the event happened. Oh, that's what he meant.

• 2:21:15Danny Jones?

  Sure.

• 2:21:16Speaker 02

  So it's subject to interpretation.

• 2:21:18Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:21:19Speaker 02

  That's why it's, it's, I want to believe it's like the UFO, the ancient civilization. I want to believe in it. Cause I, I, I believe we're more than what we think we are. But man, the logical part of me wants solid evidence.

• 2:21:34Danny Jones?

  There's no, the thing about it is there's, there's no, like, it's not, it's probably not black and white. Right? It's probably just, that's the way our monkey brains interpret it. Is there free will or is, you know, do we make our own future? The, the answer is probably both or neither, right? It's probably, we, we probably just, we aren't evolved enough or we don't have the senses to, to understand that it's probably far more complex than, than we can comprehend right now.

• 2:22:06Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 2:22:06Danny Jones?

  You know, and maybe a couple thousand years down, down the road, if we're not wiped off the face of the earth, we might, we might have a clearer picture of it. But it's, it's almost impossible to say any one thing is, is absolutely true, right? In most cases, there's lots of nuance. But often, you know, when people do claim, have big grandiose claims or, or scientific breakthroughs or conclusions like this, it's more sexy and it gets more attention. And people like to talk about it more. And, um, you know, often the truth is, is in the middle. So I think you're right about that, you know, those precognitive dreams.

• 2:22:48Danny Jones?

  It's, it's, there's a lot of evidence to support the claims, but also it's like, these people like to all start coming out of the woodwork once it's already happened and they can say, ooh, look, we proved it, you know?

• 2:22:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, there, there's also, um, There's document that that show that the US government after the Second World War spent a lot of money in remote viewing, using remote viewers to spy on the Soviet. Because they found out the Soviet started their program first, they were like, I think, a decade late.

• 2:23:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:23:25Speaker 02

  So they were like, hey, if there's something really to it, we want to catch up. And their conclusion was like, no, there's nothing to it, of course, publicly, that's what they claim.

• 2:23:36Danny Jones?

  Is that what they claim publicly?

• 2:23:37Speaker 02

  They say they was, like, I mean, you have a video of, an audio, I think of Jimmy Carter, the president, that that talks about when they use a remote viewer to find a plane that crashes in Africa, and he was accurate. There's an audio on that, yeah, you can look online, and, I mean, I don't know, I mean, you have very credible people sometimes that comes public with incredible claims. It's like Carl Sagan says, incredible, like, incredible claim need incredible evidence.

• 2:24:10Danny Jones?

  Incredible evidence, yeah.

• 2:24:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah, though, I've talked to remote viewers before from those programs back in the 80s and the early 90s, and, you know, it seemed like it was a legit thing, but it's like, you know, how accurate was it? From what I understand is they had to have like multiple people focusing on one target, and like, they give them a time, they give them a place, and they all have to like, they all come up with abstract images, right? So you have like 12 people that are focusing on a certain geography and a certain time, and it's like, explain the smells, explain the emotions, explain anything that just

• 2:24:54Danny Jones?

  comes to mind, and oftentimes it was like vague, ambiguous, abstract ideas, but they would try to take it from multiple people and piece it together with real world intelligence. So they'd have like, you know, human intelligence on the ground claiming X, and they say, okay, let's try to corroborate it with these remote viewers and see if they can get anywhere close. Close to what this other person was saying to see if it's accurate, you know? But they spent so much money on it.

• 2:25:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:19Danny Jones?

  And it's like.

• 2:25:19Speaker 02

  Why would they do that?

• 2:25:20Danny Jones?

  Now they have satellites everywhere. There's like, you know, thou- millions of satellites all over the fucking planet orbiting the earth. It's like, do they need to have a bunch of, you know, a bunch of nerves in a room, remote viewing shit? I don't know. I think now they're probably, they're probably, who knows what they're doing with psychedelics and stuff now.

• 2:25:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, I wanted to believe, but god damn it, it's hard. I don't know. Or it's the same as, have you seen the, the work of the doctor Diane NSC Powell?

• 2:25:50Danny Jones?

  Yes, that's the, that's the girl I was talking about earlier, the girl who was telling me about the written word.

• 2:25:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:55Danny Jones?

  She's the psychologist we had on a couple of months, a couple of weeks ago.

• 2:25:58Speaker 02

  Oh, you had, you had her on?

• 2:26:00Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she was, she was fascinating.

• 2:26:03Speaker 02

  She, she believes that there is something to it, right? She, she, she believed there is a, it's more than telepathy, she says, actually it's like more than remote viewing. They can sense sometimes if someone is sick.

• 2:26:13Danny Jones?

  I'm very skeptical of it, though.

• 2:26:15Speaker 02

  Really, yeah? Of course, you should be.

• 2:26:16Danny Jones?

  I'm super skeptical. I, I wasn't at first, but then, um, I heard some pushback on it. And I asked her about it as well. Um, one of the problems with it, with those kids who claim to have telepathy, is there can't be any stage magicians present. So a stage magician can do the same thing, right? They're, they're able to fake this in a way where they admit that it's, you know, we're, we're, we're pulling a trick off here. But to a layman person like me or you, we wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

• 2:26:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:26:48Danny Jones?

  So a good way to test if this is real is have somebody who knows how to fake it, like a real stage magician.

• 2:26:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:26:54Danny Jones?

  To corroborate it. But the claim is that the autistic savants that are doing this stuff, if there's any sort of skeptical energy in the room, it shuts down their superpowers. So that's a problem, number one.

• 2:27:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:10Danny Jones?

  And, um, number, like another thing that I brought up with her is like.

• 2:27:16Danny Jones?

  You know, she, she, one of the claims is like, you ever experienced when you're thinking about somebody you haven't thought about in a long time and they call you?

• 2:27:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, it happens to everyone.

• 2:27:25Danny Jones?

  Whoa, what was that? That was like, you know, crazy synchronicity or something like that?

• 2:27:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:29Danny Jones?

  Maybe some psychic abilities, but, but we have a, uh, human beings inherently have a problem with probabilities. We don't, how many times have you been thinking about somebody you haven't thought about in a long time?

• 2:27:42Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:27:42Danny Jones?

  And they never called you?

• 2:27:43Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:27:44Danny Jones?

  Probably a fuckload.

• 2:27:45Speaker 02

  Absolutely, absolutely.

• 2:27:47Danny Jones?

  But the one time they did call you was a huge, it was a meaningful event to you, right? That, that, that stuck in your mind because it's so rare and it was so meaningful to you. So it must have been something supernatural, something unexplainable, you know?

• 2:28:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're right. It's, it's, uh, I have a friend, uh, his name is Chris Ramsey. He's a stage magician.

• 2:28:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, he's great. I'm from, I'm a fan of his.

• 2:28:08Speaker 02

  He, he, you know, he, he, he's like me, he likes to have the evidence, but he believed there might be something to it. Because there, there is certain thing that he cannot debunk himself. He's like, he told me, he's like, man, this one I really don't know. It's hard to know, you know? Like, that doesn't mean they didn't have a trick that he might not be aware of.

• 2:28:28Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:28:28Speaker 02

  That's his wheelhouse. That's what he does.

• 2:28:30Danny Jones?

  I would love to see Chris Ramsey get in the room with one of these people that do this stuff and just get his take on it live.

• 2:28:36Speaker 02

  Have you ever seen the episode of, uh, the great, uh, James Randi? The, he's a magician that used to debunk, uh, those charlatans. So he, you can go on YouTube and, and check it out. He's a, he's a magician and he used to tell people, I'm a magician and I'm gonna fool you. And you're not gonna see it coming. And, and he was honest and he was performing his magic trick. But later on, he, he decided to debunk people. Now he passed. He, he, he no longer exists, but it was great. So he used to go in, uh, sometime in churches and where you have the guy, his name was Popov. He used to have a... A healing crusade where the faithful used to filled up a card before the mess.

• 2:29:21Speaker 02

  With their, you know, their, their condition and, and used to be prompt by his wife with a, with a, with a, in the hearing with a mic. Like a, like a, something to listen and his wife was standing, okay, row seven, uh, number five, you have a girl, a lady that has arthritis in her hips. So he was like, he was like faking that he's, he was speaking to God and he, he was like, you have a Janet, Janet, row five, number six. Stand up please. And then he's like, God is telling me you have arthritis in your hips. And he's like, oh my God.

• 2:29:58Speaker 02

  And he's like, we're gonna make the devil mad, amen. And then he used, used, used to, to, used to make people believe he was healing people. But there's a, a, a thing that is called placebo effect. Oh, yeah. So the lady, you could see the video, she stood up, like she, she had a cane, she came with a cane, but she stood up. And she really believed that she's getting healed and she walks out the church with no, no cane. Of course, after a while, when she go back down, maybe the, the adrenaline comes down. Now she's still in pain because she's like, shit, I'm not supposed to walk without my cane. Right. But it was great. The other show that he was debunking people, you couldn't, James Randi. That's fascinating.

• 2:30:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. He debunked a bunch of people. Yeah, man, the placebo effect is real, bro. Yeah, placebo and placebo. It's very important. So when, when I was talking about the visualization, it's true, there's an effect. If you visualize something positive, it has like an effect on you, on your behavior, on your hormones and, and your hormones can manifest in your action and, and become real. But I don't know how big that effect could be. Now people that, that they claim a ESP, they can have a. Amplify those effect that, oh, they can, you know, like heal people or maybe read someone's mind or see the future. This, I don't know. It's hard to believe, you know?

• 2:31:28Danny Jones?

  It is. And uh

• 2:31:29Speaker 02

  I think it has, it can certainly have a small effect, positive effect, you know? But to have that much of a big effect, I need the, the evidence for it.

• 2:31:39Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, there's been so many studies that have done, that have used placebo in a, in a similar way. And people have had like insane benefits, but you're right, like the long term, the long term effect doesn't usually stick.

• 2:31:51Speaker 02

  And the same thing for the negative effect. If you, if you program yourself to be negative, you'll have a, you know, it's the same thing the other way around. I, I believe it's, it's, it's very strong.

• 2:32:03Danny Jones?

  Hmm. Yeah, man. It's fucking wild shit. Um, so what are you doing for your podcast? You're, you're, you're traveling around, doing a whole bunch of, of episodes before you drop the whole thing or what?

• 2:32:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I'm, I'm, I'm starting, I'm launching a YouTube channel very soon. It's going to be two different channels. One's going to be a, a vlog. And then one is going to be a podcast. And the concept is that I'm going to meet my different people.

• 2:32:32Speaker 02

  Doctors, professional athletes, wellness expert, archaeologists, paleontologists, you know, different people taught to talk about different topics that I'm passionate about. And we're gonna, the concept is me meeting them in their environment.

• 2:32:46Danny Jones?

  Oh, that's cool.

• 2:32:47Speaker 02

  And we get to know them better, who they are, you know, who really, who they are behind that, what they do professionally.

• 2:32:55Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:32:55Speaker 02

  And then I sit down with them. I want, when this is done, it's the vlog and then I sit down and I, I talk about the, the topics that I'm

• 2:33:03Danny Jones?

  How many have you done so far?

• 2:33:04Speaker 02

  I've done about a dozen.

• 2:33:06Danny Jones?

  Whoa.

• 2:33:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I'm, I'm waiting to have a few, few in the bank, uh, like we say, because once you start, uh, putting it online, it needs to be, uh, on a regular base, you know? So, so yeah, I'm, I'm still learning. I'm new with, with this.

• 2:33:20Danny Jones?

  Any episodes you can give me a sneak peek on? Any, any crazy ones?

• 2:33:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. I have one with Demetrius Johnson, who's, Demetrius Johnson and mixed martial arts. I believe, I believe pound for pound is the best fighter that ever lived. And while I'm here in Tampa, tomorrow I'm going to see Lane Norton. He's an expert in nutrition, diet, diet, and also he's a national champion in powerlifting. I'm going to see after the night, the day after Royce Gracie. Royce Gracie was the winner of the first UFC. He was my idol growing up.

• 2:33:51Danny Jones?

  He's around here?

• 2:33:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, he live in Tampa.

• 2:33:53Danny Jones?

  What?

• 2:33:54Speaker 02

  In Sarasota, yeah. He has a school, a jiu-jitsu school, yeah.

• 2:33:59Danny Jones?

  In Sarasota?

• 2:34:00Speaker 02

  Yes, sir.

• 2:34:00Danny Jones?

  No shit, that's wild, bro.

• 2:34:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I have a different guess.

• 2:34:04Danny Jones?

  There's so many interesting people around here, I never know that.

• 2:34:06Speaker 02

  You know who really inspire me, I mean, he doesn't know, it's sort of indirectly inspire me to do these things, is Joe Rogan. Cause Joe Rogan, he has a very successful podcast and for him, he does what he wants. It's like going to school. You choose what you want to learn today. Oh, today I'm gonna learn about, I don't know, ancient civilization, I'm gonna have this guy. Or I wanna learn about science, I'm gonna have that guy. I wanna learn about dinosaurs, paleontology, like at school. And I think it's, it's great. You're having, you're having a good time, you're still learning.

• 2:34:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:41Speaker 02

  That doesn't mean I'm, I'm not always gonna be, I will always agree with my guests. But they're gonna have a chance to show their point of view on different topics. And I, I, I like to go on each, each side of the spectrum, you know? Having a guy who's a mainstream who believe, you know, like this. And another guy who's, you know, has a different theory with, but good evidence that, you know, needs to be good evidence, you know?

• 2:35:08Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Well, that's cool because you got such a diverse, a diversity of interests and things that you're, you're interested in and that you do yourself, that, that you could do like a really cool show with like tons of different topics.

• 2:35:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's fun. It's, it's, it's, it's gonna be fun and.

• 2:35:25Danny Jones?

  When are you gonna get Joe on there?

• 2:35:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I need to get Joe. There's a lot of...

• 2:35:29Danny Jones?

  He needs to be episode one, goddammit.

• 2:35:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I don't know. He's a very busy man. I mean, he's got his podcast, he's a UFC commentator, he's got the mothership, his comedy club.

• 2:35:41Danny Jones?

  That dude's so busy, huh?

• 2:35:42Speaker 02

  It really inspired me because Joe now, he does whatever the hell he wants.

• 2:35:45Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:46Speaker 02

  And I kind of respect that about him. He doesn't give a damn. He's like, "You don't like what I do? Just turn the channel, you know, and don't look at me." And I respect that, and I want to do the same thing in a way that I want to do what I want to do, talk about the topics that I like. If the guy, even if the guy is very popular, but I don't get along, I don't want to have him, I'm not gonna do him. I want to do the people I like.

• 2:36:11Danny Jones?

  That you like.

• 2:36:11Speaker 02

  The topic that I'm passionate about.

• 2:36:13Danny Jones?

  That's the way to do it, bro.

• 2:36:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 2:36:15Danny Jones?

  Stick to your guns.

• 2:36:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:18Danny Jones?

  Is the channel already up?

• 2:36:19Speaker 02

  No, it's not. It's gonna be up in a few weeks, you know? I'm waiting to have... Everything needs to be edited and...

• 2:36:25Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:36:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's gonna be up. It's gonna be a GSP vlog and GSP podcast. It's gonna be two different channels.

• 2:36:31Danny Jones?

  Okay. Fuck yeah. Well, we'll link all that stuff below, and thanks again for doing this, bro.

• 2:36:35Speaker 02

  I thank you, Danny. I was a fan of what you do for a long time. I like the topics.

• 2:36:40Danny Jones?

  Likewise, bro.

• 2:36:40Speaker 02

  I like the topics you talk about and... Yeah, man, thank you for having me on.

• 2:36:45Danny Jones?

  Fuck yeah, brother. My pleasure. And we'll link all your stuff below. And that's all. Goodnight, folks.

• 2:36:50Speaker 02

  Fuck yes, sir.

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