
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Hosted by Jason Calacanis
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This episode features Blake Scholl, founder and CEO of Boom Supersonic, discussing the resurgence of supersonic passenger travel, regulatory hurdles, and an unexpected pivot into high-power data center generation. Scholl explains how his small team of fifty built the XB-1, the first privately developed jet to break the sound barrier, while navigating the historic U.S. ban on supersonic flight and eventually securing unanimous congressional support for legalization. He and host Jason Calacanis also explore the economics of supersonic commercial flights, projecting a round-trip break-even fare of $3,500 across the Atlantic, and detail how adapting their jet engine core for ground-based power generation has created a massive, highly profitable sideline business.
What makes the episode compelling is the candid look at hardware startup reality, from starting with Office Depot chairs and cardboard mock-ups to turning a failed outsourcing partnership with Rolls-Royce into an in-house turbine manufacturing triumph. Scholl provides concrete figures, such as building engines that can deploy 42 megawatts for behind-the-meter data center power, and shares specific anecdotes about the friction of dealing with legacy aerospace stagnation.
Hosts introduce Blake Scholl and set the stage for Boom Supersonic’s mission to revive supersonic passenger flight.
Scholl recounts the legacy of Concorde, the ban on supersonic over the U.S., and the lack of new commercial supersonic aircraft.
Scholl explains his background, the initial pitch to Jeff Bezos, and the rejection that motivated him to pursue the project independently.
The journey from a cardboard prototype to the first privately built supersonic aircraft, including the historic flight and Starlink integration.
Explanation of the boomless cruise technology that redirects sonic booms upward, enabling legal supersonic flight over land.
Scholl details the failed partnership with Rolls‑Royce, the decision to build an in‑house engine, and the benefits of digital design and manufacturing.
The repurposing of the supersonic engine core for high‑power, water‑free data‑center power generation.
Scholl outlines projected flight times, break‑even fares, and the timeline for commercial service.
Discussion of potential private jet markets, competition with Gulfstream/Falcon, and the broader vision for supersonic travel for all classes.
Scholl reflects on interactions with multiple administrations, the bipartisan nature of supersonic policy, and the speed of recent regulatory approvals.
Boeing Has Stalledinsight
The guest highlights that Boeing's latest airliner is a carbon fiber copy of their 1957 model, noting that interns are born after Boeing's last new airplane launch in 2004.
Pitching Jeff Bezosstory
In 2015, the guest pitched Jeff Bezos on Boom's seed round, resulting in Bezos passing based on the belief that large companies are required to build composite airliners.
Achieving Boomless Cruisestrategy
The guest explains that XB1 uses the atmosphere's natural refractive power to redirect the sonic boom upwards, effectively silencing it on the ground.
After breaking up with Rolls-Royce over engine development, Boom decided to design and manufacture its own jet engine parts down to the turbine blades.
Data Center Power Pivotstrategy
By removing the fan and adding a generator, the supersonic engine core can deploy 42 megawatts for behind-the-meter data center power generation.
Transatlantic Ticket Pricingdata
The projected break-even fare for a round-trip supersonic flight across the Atlantic at Mach 1.7 is approximately $3,500.
“Courage is acting despite the fear.”
“We call it boomless cruise and it uses the natural refractive power of the atmosphere to redirect the sonic boom upwards.”
“The world needs supersonic flight. Passengers deserve it.”
“I think there's a lot of reason to be excited for a faster future, a more connected world, and American leadership in aviation.”
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