“Successfully Insecure” to Win! Get Shark-Size Confidence with Shark Tank’s Barbara Corcoran (Pt 2)

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• 0:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  Get ready for some life-changing wisdom and lessons she's never shared before. It's Shark Tank's Barbara Corcoran. I am so excited to share with you part two of this incredible conversation.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  I will outtry anyone, anyone in the universe, and try harder than anybody else. And I'll win because of it. And I sat down and wrote a very curt but impactful text to Mark Burnett himself, saying he had made a mistake and everything in my life happened on the heels of failure. And I'd like to have him invite me out to compete with the other lone female shark and let the best woman win.

• 0:40Speaker 01

  I could walk through my sales staff at any given office. We had like maybe 300 desks. See the people and I could feel the vibe of someone who was failing. I know it was like a witch's instinct.

• 0:55Jamie Kern Lima?

  Oh, no, no, no. Getting rejection or rejected doesn't mean you're not going to crush it in that role. It's no indication you're not going to make it. And it's like how we handle rejection. Have you ever been a mean girl? Have you ever been like competitive?

• 1:08Speaker 01

  I didn't have the confidence to be a mean girl.

• 1:11Jamie Kern Lima?

  I did not know this and I connected with you on such a soul level when I learned this. But I love that I did a few deals. I know I can't share details.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  We did a deal together.

• 1:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes, we did. Right now in your life, do you ever have moments where you feel unworthy?

• 1:26Speaker 01

  I think the danger to feeling unworthy is to believe it. Just to believe it is so damaging. Just think of it as an old tape that's got to be replaced.

• 1:36Jamie Kern Lima?

  For your 70th birthday, you held a mock funeral.

• 1:39Speaker 01

  Yes, I did. They were shocked to see me dead.

• 1:44Jamie Kern Lima?

  Before we jump into this episode, I'd love to invite you to join this community to hear more interviews and one-on-one conversations with me and you to help you truly believe in yourself and trust yourself and know you are enough so that you can become unstoppable and living your best life. All I want you to do is click on the follow or subscribe button on the app that you're listening or watching this episode on. I love your support. It's incredible to see your comments and how many people you're sharing these episodes with. I'm so grateful to be here for you and I'm so excited to go on this journey with you. So thank you so much for subscribing and following the Jamie Carrion Lima Show. It means so much to me.

• 2:29Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 3:14Jamie Kern Lima?

  some tips, tools, joy and love, hitting your inbox, I'm your girl. Subscribe at jamiekernlima.com or in the link in the show notes.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  Jamie Kern Lima is her name. Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life.

• 3:31Speaker 03

  Jamie Kern Lima.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  Jamie, you're so inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima.

• 3:42Jamie Kern Lima?

  Empowered women empower women. And today we've got an empowered woman who's going to empower you on the show. You've heard her say, "You've got a deal on ABC's hit show Shark Tank for 16 seasons." Barbara Corcoran is an Emmy Award-winning shark and executive producer on the show. She's the founder of the Corcoran Group and her journey to this moment, we're all sharing together right now, is nothing short of remarkable. Barbara is one of 10 kids raised in a two-bedroom home. She struggled with dyslexia, got straight D's in school and had 20 jobs by the time she turned 23.

• 4:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  She then borrowed $1,000 and quit her job as a waitress to start a small real estate company in New York City. She grew the Corcoran Group into the largest and best-known brand in the brokerage business. And Barbara became one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the country. From a thousand dollar loan to a billion dollar business and now she's invested in more than 100 businesses to date. She's also so sharp, quick witted and so, so funny. Plus, there's something she did to me behind the scenes on Shark Tank that I'm going to share

• 5:06Jamie Kern Lima?

  with you that made my jaw hit the floor and made my soul explode like a giant heart emoji. I am so excited for this conversation. Barbara Corcoran, welcome to the Jamie Karen Lima Show.

• 5:20Speaker 01

  I've been looking forward to it so much. Thank you so much.

• 5:22Jamie Kern Lima?

  I'm so excited and I just love you and thank you for being here. This show is going to be, I already know it, such a blessing and so inspiring to so many people. So you've shared a lot about sort of the pain growing up of, of being teased at school, like dyslexia.

• 5:38Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:39Jamie Kern Lima?

  Because a lot of people right now, whatever age they are, they're carrying around labels, right? For me, I carried around the label, I'm not enough, most of my life until I realized, oh my gosh.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  Because who gave you that label? It comes from somewhere.

• 5:51Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, I think for me, I mean, I had loving parents. I would not change a thing. They worked a lot. So I always kind of felt like I had to, you know.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  Measure up.

• 5:59Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, and like do something great to, for them to show up, right?

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Well, you have.

• 6:03Jamie Kern Lima?

  So I have.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  You have. You have nothing to worry about.

• 6:05Jamie Kern Lima?

  And so, but now I recognize, oh wow, that label. And I would take, and so, and so, you know, with, for, for people right now, listening or watching that maybe have a child with, with a learning disability or dyslexia, what's your, what's your advice for them right now?

• 6:22Speaker 01

  Well, I have, I have deep thoughts about dyslexia, the pluses and the minuses, et cetera. I've come to believe, well, in my life, it's proven a plus. But I also have two dyslexic children that I was a parent to and I was tailor-made for them. I had two clunkers. When I got my second daughter and found I cheated extreme learning disabilities, I thought, ah, another clunker? Gosh. So, but I was perfectly made for them to bring out the best of each of those children and they're phenomenally successful already and they're very well-balanced and very secure. That's all you want with kids, to make them secure. Unfortunately, dyslexia battles comfort in a child. It's a way of judging a child when they're too young.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  Get the label too young and it makes them feel, like you said, less than. And so for dyslexia, for me, I was a dunce in the class because I couldn't read till seventh grade. So I got that label early that I was a dunce. And when Sister Zelda Marie, the nun from hell, actually told me I was always going to be stupid in second grade because I could never learn to read or write, I believed it because the kids believed this stuff. But thank God for my mother, she told me I was a genius and I'd learned to fill in all the blanks. And she was right, I became a bullshitter of the best way, you know? Are you allowed to say bullshit on your show?

• 7:40Jamie Kern Lima?

  Sure.

• 7:41Speaker 01

  Okay, I don't want to injure it anyway. I haven't got her mouth a little bit, you know? All right, but...

• 7:47Jamie Kern Lima?

  And that skill set sure paid off.

• 7:49Speaker 01

  Let me tell you, without dyslexia, I should, I would not be nearly as successful as I am. Dyslexic kids have gifts, true gifts that other kids don't have. They're very intuitive because they've gone through the pain of being looked down upon. It sharpens your intuition, very much so your empathy, it definitely does. You can size people up faster than the other kid in the town, however you can size up a book, you know? But what's more important, sizing of people, getting along with people? Very often, people who are severely dyslexic are great talkers. I'm a great talker. I can't read, but I sure can talk, okay? And most importantly, when you're put down as a kid, you want to get

• 8:30Speaker 01

  even. If you have any gumption, you want to get even. And my whole life has been one long attempt to prove to everybody that I'm not stupid. Isn't that stupid that I would still be worried about that? But I'm always worried about not having the answer or being called on and stuttering and all the painful things being made to read out loud. That's happened to me at board meetings. Could you read this report? No, I pass it on to the next person. I'm not getting caught in that again, you know? But I think because you're coming out of a hole, you have more fervor. And interesting enough, on all the businesses I've invested in Shark Tank, my, by far, my most successful are all owned by dyslexic people. Now, maybe because I picked them on purpose, but know this, they're not book smart, but they're street smart.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  And I think that just is not an accident. But as long as you have a great parent who makes you believe in yourself. I mean, I had that in my mother. If she didn't tell me I was a genius all the time, she didn't tell me all the time I had a wonderful imagination. If she didn't put me in situations to demonstrate my wonderful imagination, who cared about that except she cared? That's where I got my confidence from. And where do I get my work ethic from really? Is knowing I had a liability and I had to work harder than everybody else. But I got used to working hard. I'm a great worker, no problem. What was terrible as a kid became my assets as I became older.

• 9:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  And then to be a parent to two kids.

• 9:56Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:56Jamie Kern Lima?

  With dyslexia.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  Oh, they're great.

• 9:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  I kept my eye on one ball, raising Tommy and Kate. Self-confidence, that's all I wanted to do. If I keep that confidence there, it's a home run. Don't worry about anything, it's a home run. And I also learned from my mother with all children, not just children that struggle in school, with all children. I think you have to let them fail. We are in a culture that you don't want to let a kid fail, get a special two, blah, blah, blah, talk to the teacher, whatever. My mother was a believer in letting us fail. Because she wanted to nurture our gene of getting back up, and she certainly did. She always said getting back up is where it's at, not excelling. I'm surprised I even tried to excel, because she made getting back up sound so good, you know?

• 10:40Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. Do you think, Barbara, like, do you believe our setbacks or hardships are happening for us? In the sense of like, when you look at what you've gone through in the case of dyslexia and then the skill set that you built? And then now you are a parent and probably have such insight into doing that? Do you believe in that? Do you believe like our steps are divinely ordered?

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 11:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  Is there a role faith plays in your life?

• 11:06Speaker 01

  How else could you explain things? There are so many things that are startling in life and you don't know how you got there. Bad things that happen that turn into the best things in your life. I mean, thank God Ray married my secretary. He's still on 51% of my company. He wasn't really doing anything in the company, you know? Thank God I was dyslexic to learn the skills to deal with feeling like a loser, being a loser and having the empathy to turn that into great management skill, because that's exactly what it did. I could walk through my sales staff at any given office, we had like maybe 300 desks. Sea of people and I could stand there and I could feel the vibe of someone who was failing.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  I know I was like a witch's instinct. I walk up eight desks down, put my hand on the shoulder of the person saying, hey, how you doing? And they were all set to quit. They always told me that I was just thinking I could feel that wasn't like they looked sad. Could just feel the vibe. You don't get that unless you have an acute sense of harm in your own body of something that happened. My harm came from, don't call me, don't have me read out loud. It was so, it was my idea of hell on earth. I mean, so painful as a kid, but I had my great mother after three thirty.

• 12:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  I could go to her and be wonderful in front of her.

• 12:29Jamie Kern Lima?

  Well, we all get to watch you use that, that skill set.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:32Jamie Kern Lima?

  Um, in the tank and you know, I was, I was shocked to learn this. I did not know this and I connected with you on such a soul level when I learned this.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 12:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  That you initially were going to be a shark on Shark Tank, season one.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 12:46Jamie Kern Lima?

  And then all of a sudden they said, you're out, you're not. It was essentially a rejection.

• 12:51Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 12:51Jamie Kern Lima?

  From Shark Tank, you were out.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 12:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  And most people learning, oh, they didn't pick me anymore.

• 12:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  Would have went and cried, would have whatever. But will you share what you did when you got, when you, when you got word that they're not picking you for?

• 13:04Speaker 01

  You know, I hadn't already signed the contract, but it's one way. I didn't think about that. Um, I had already told my friends and family, I was going to Hollywood. They were, whoa, Hollywood, yeah. I had already bought my real leather luggage. So I looked like I belonged there, you know? I'd done all that in my head. And when they told me a week before my flight that they had picked someone else, there was only room for one woman. And they had chosen another woman. I was shocked. Uh, I did what everybody does, I think, when you are met with hardship. I felt sorry for myself. I was also thinking, what am I going to tell my family, friends? How embarrassing I tasted. I could see it when I could see things, they always come true for me. And I thought, this is the first time it's not coming true. How could that be?

• 13:48Speaker 01

  How could that, I mean, why would they pick another woman? Why didn't they tell me sooner? Why didn't they, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then I got. Control of myself and I just got angry and that's also a trait of mine. And I sat down and write a very curt but impactful text to Mark Burnett himself, saying he had made a mistake and everything in my life happened on the heels of failure. And I'd like to have him invite me out to compete with the other lone female shark and let the best woman win, which is a little aggressive, I realize. And I gave him my reasons why I was so good when my back was against the wall, including the Trump strain, including Sister Stella Marie, including the old boy network who wouldn't let me into their club until I became the number one rival.

• 14:31Speaker 01

  I put it all out there, short, rewrote it and sent it. And the next day I was called and told to come out and compete. Let me tell you, you know what it's like out of Shark Tank because you've been like a shark. You know how they put your name in the gold star on the trailer? So you know you have your own gold star in a trailer, even though they're dumpy and all.

• 14:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  But when they took the other lady's gold star off at lunchtime, I was like, yay!

• 14:55Jamie Kern Lima?

  Wow.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  But the lesson there was I was doing what I always do well. When the chips are down, I know how to come back. I had formed a habit of trying hard.

• 15:04Speaker 01

  And God, was it a great day.

• 15:07Jamie Kern Lima?

  You put your, I just.

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Feeling sorry is just terrible. It's the worst hindrance in anyone. A victim role, a victim role is like giving away your full power.

• 15:17Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 15:18Speaker 01

  For anything. I'm a victim, take my power, you know? No way.

• 15:23Jamie Kern Lima?

  So in that moment, like you competed for your spot, you got that spot, season one. Now 16 seasons later, we're sitting here talking about it.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, thank God.

• 15:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  And the lesson there, I just connected with so profoundly because I hear from so many people. They're like, oh, things aren't going my way. They said no again, da, da, da. I'm like, oh, no, no, no. Getting rejection or rejected doesn't mean you're not going to crush it in that role. It's no indication you're not going to make it.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 15:47Jamie Kern Lima?

  And it's like how we handle rejection, right? Our relationship with rejection, the meaning.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  So personal.

• 15:53Jamie Kern Lima?

  Assigned to it. Yeah, and look what you did. You were like, okay, I just got rejected. Instead of just going away, I'm going to write Mark Burnett a letter.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  Well, I didn't do it so fast. Remember, my first thought was what's wrong with me?

• 16:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  That was my first thought. Oh, gosh, I guess I'm not good enough. I guess I'm not blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

• 16:10Jamie Kern Lima?

  And how, what, what, how many, how much time between that feeling and then you deciding to write the letter?

• 16:17Speaker 01

  Well, I gave myself a good 10 minutes to be sorry for myself. I figured I might as well enjoy it for a little while. It feels good to be sorry for yourself, you know? Poor me, oh, poor me.

• 16:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. And rejection sucks. I mean, I still feel hurt when I get it and I, I reframe it right away, but I still feel it.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  You don't take it personally?

• 16:34Jamie Kern Lima?

  Nope, don't take it personally.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Don't you take it personally initially? I always go to that.

• 16:38Jamie Kern Lima?

  Sometimes I'm getting more, and I feel like the more we put in the reps in life.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  Well, your money in the bank helps you.

• 16:44Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah. And enough times where kind of like what we were talking about earlier, I look back, I'm like, thank God that dude broke up with me, because that would have been a disaster. Or thank God that investor didn't think women would buy makeup from, you know, people that had my body type. I mean, I've had every type of rejection, but I look back and it's like, okay, now, you know, it's all happening for me. And now, 16 seasons later, have you ever, you know, have you ever had a fight with, with another shark that lasted beyond the set?

• 17:17Speaker 01

  No, it lasts about three minutes. You know, it's a competitive set, you know?

• 17:21Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Sometimes I can't get my word in, because I have a smaller voice than Lori and most of the, and all the men, actually.

• 17:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  So it's very hard for me to break in. You almost have to be rude and just charging, which is not my nature. So I've learned to be more rude, actually, on Shark Tank. But no, the minute you have a drink at the end of the day, if you have a drink by yourself or with the sharks, it's gone.

• 17:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  There's no reason. You're in a foxhole together.

• 17:44Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 17:44Speaker 01

  For four, what is it, 16 years? No, we're brothers, sisters, come on.

• 17:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Doing deals together, all of it. I had the best time, and I know I can't share what deals I did yet, but I love that I did a few deals. I know I can't share details.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  We, we did a deal together.

• 18:01Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes, we did.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  How's it going?

• 18:02Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes, we did.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  Good.

• 18:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  Great, yeah. Everything's great. I just was so grateful how welcoming. You are.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  You're easy to welcome.

• 18:12Jamie Kern Lima?

  You know, and also like, listen, you, you, uh, you know, we, everybody, everyone has seen and felt when they walked in somewhere and they feel like they're not welcome, or they don't belong. Or especially, unfortunately, there's still a lot of mean girls out there. And women that think like, oh, you know, they get competitive versus going, oh, you know what? Um, you know, I'm really securing my power and I'm gonna pour into another woman. And that's why I think it was so, uh, I almost got emotional before the show started because for you to walk in up to me, for you to, for you to give me a cheat sheet, to help me with questions if I needed it, for you to raise me up that way.

• 18:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  Um, I just felt like you, like your intention, um, was just to multiply my impact. And that felt really, really good and really special. Have you ever, have you always been that way? Or have you ever been, have you ever been a mean girl? Have you ever been like competitive?

• 19:11Speaker 01

  I didn't have the confidence to be a mean girl. Ah. You have to, whether it be true or not, you have to be securing your seat, I think, to be a mean girl.

• 19:18Jamie Kern Lima?

  Hmm.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  No, I think I'm more of the cut of cloth, like my mom.

• 19:22Jamie Kern Lima?

  Hmm.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  If she had a neighbor in our small town that was obnoxious, she made her point too much so, actually, it was almost hard to watch to really understand the lady and invite her in for tea. And it's like, what's she doing here?

• 19:36Jamie Kern Lima?

  Hmm.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  But I think she paid it forward. You know, she did for others. Well, let, what the Christians always say, to brothers what you want them to do to you. She was very good in that way.

• 19:45Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  Um, I just did for you what I wish somebody had done for me on my, uh, first day on the set. Because suppose Kevin O'Leary and Robert Herschel had had three years of practice in Canada and they didn't tell Damon and I, uh, Lori was not yet there, they didn't tell us that these sharks that were on the, stuck on the set on day one had this vast background. They were like machine guns firing those questions. And Damon and I just sat there, ah, it took us a while to even get a question out.

• 20:14Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  So I, I was just paying it forward, so to speak. You know, it pays off, it makes the world a- Friendly place.

• 20:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, and I believe that through and through. I believe, you know, we get back what we give. And sometimes it's not immediately, but it always happens. It always happens. A golden rule. I believe that.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  Well, sometimes I go too far. Yesterday I decided I was gonna say hello to every single person in the street that I met in the four blocks to my office. Let me tell you, just to be friendly and smile, especially older people that probably never had anyone talk to them. I traveled those four blocks. I probably said hello in the city blocks, probably eighty, ninety people. Three said hello back.

• 20:53Jamie Kern Lima?

  Wow.

• 20:53Speaker 01

  And I decided, I'm not gonna do this anymore. I feel badly now. Only three people were friendly today.

• 20:59Jamie Kern Lima?

  You're trying to put it on. It is New York.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  I know. I have to think of something else.

• 21:03Jamie Kern Lima?

  If you come out, come visit me in California. People will say hi back to you. I promise.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  Yes, they do. I know.

• 21:08Jamie Kern Lima?

  We can go to Midwest together. We're gonna, we're gonna get hugs back.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  The South, forget about. They'll say hello to us ten times.

• 21:14Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes, yes. That's the best. That's really cool that you.

• 21:17Speaker 01

  No more hellos for me in the morning.

• 21:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  You know, you know, I'm obsessed with self-worth. I wrote a book called Worthy.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  You should be, because it's all one there.

• 21:28Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. Do you feel right now in your life, do you ever have moments where you feel unworthy? There is so much more coming up in this episode. You are not gonna want to miss it. But first, I wanted to share this with you. In life, you don't soar to the level of your hopes and dreams. You stay stuck at the level of your self-worth. When you build your self-worth, you change your entire life. And that's exactly why I wrote my new book, Worthy: How to Believe You Are Enough and Transform Your Life for You. If you have some self-doubt to destroy and a destiny to fulfill, Worthy is for you. In Worthy, you'll learn proven tools.

• 22:12Jamie Kern Lima?

  And simple steps that bring life-changing results like how to get unstuck from the things holding you back, build unshakable self-love, unlearn the lies that lead to self-doubt, and embrace the truths that wake up worthiness, overcome limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome, achieve your hopes and dreams by believing you are worthy of them, and so much more. Are you ready to unleash your greatness and step into the person you were born to be? Imagine a life with zero self-doubt and unshakable self-worth.

• 22:53Jamie Kern Lima?

  Get your copy of Worthy, plus some amazing thank you bonus gifts for you at worthybook.com or the link in the show notes below. Imagine what you'd do if you fully believed in you. It's time to find out with Worthy. Imagine, what would you do if you fully believed in you? My weekly free inspirational newsletter is packed with tips and tools to help you find out. It's called One-on-One with Jamie, and it's delivered right to your inbox each Tuesday morning. It's a love letter from

• 23:33Jamie Kern Lima?

  me to you, from my soul to yours, and I hope it brings you the words and messages you need at just the right moment. Plus, when you're a part of my free inspirational newsletter community, you'll be the first to get behind-the-scenes content, inspirational messages, and be the first to learn about upcoming events and more. It's the place to be, and I sure hope you'll join me there. So if you're not on the list yet, you can sign up for free at jamiekernlima.com or click the link in the show notes below. And here's to becoming unstoppable together. And now, more of this incredible conversation together.

• 24:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  Do you feel right now in your life, do you ever have moments where you feel unworthy?

• 24:21Speaker 01

  All the time.

• 24:22Jamie Kern Lima?

  All the time.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  I've never been anyone who was worthwhile who didn't feel unworthy. I mean, people who label unworthy as something that's real, all it is is a misconception because you haven't filled your potential yet.

• 24:36Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  When you fill your potential, you'll see how unworthy you are and you're very worthy the minute you get what you want. I think the danger to feeling unworthy is to believe it. Just to believe it is so damaging.

• 24:48Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  Just think of it as an old tape that's gotta be replaced. I mean, I say it cavalier in a way, but I so have practiced it and believed it. So I'm not just blowing smoke here.

• 25:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  It's everything. It's really your self-worth is everything. But people think that kids even, I'm asked all the time by parents, "How do you teach your children self-confidence, especially if they have a disability in learning in any kind?" And I always say the same old thing because I really believe it. Teach them to try. Don't teach them to win. Say, "You're not gonna win. You probably won't even do well, but you gotta go out there and try. You gotta try." I will outtry anyone, anyone in the universe and try harder than anybody else and I'll win because of it. But while you're feeling unworthy, you don't feel like you have the right to try. You form a new habit of yourself if you just try. The reason I'm confident is because I know I'll outtry anybody. I know I'll always show up.

• 25:44Speaker 01

  I know I'll get back up. That's what teaches me self-confidence. But still, there are times where you feel unworthy, intimidating. And as long as it doesn't happen all the time, keeps you honest.

• 25:55Jamie Kern Lima?

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  But I think it's a trait you have to learn to undo and replace with something else by trying, just trying.

• 26:02Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, that's so good. Yeah, I've always kind of felt, at least for me so far, it's like a lifelong journey, you know, of, because I still have those feelings almost every day.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  I'm happy to hear that.

• 26:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  Are you?

• 26:14Speaker 01

  Yes, I am.

• 26:14Jamie Kern Lima?

  I'm happy.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  This really loves company.

• 26:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  Oh, I know, right? But it's good. I think it's, I think sometimes people feel like they're doomed if they feel it. It's like, no, no, no, we all feel it and then here's what we do about it.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  Here's what we do about it in real time.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  As long as you do something about it, I think that's key.

• 26:28Jamie Kern Lima?

  Right.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  Not welling it. Ugh.

• 26:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  For your 70th birthday, you held a mock funeral.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  Yes, I did.

• 26:35Jamie Kern Lima?

  Can you share?

• 26:37Speaker 01

  It was fun, a lot of fun.

• 26:39Jamie Kern Lima?

  Can you share your thoughts and intentions behind that?

• 26:43Speaker 01

  It was well thought out.

• 26:44Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, tell me about it, tell me about it.

• 26:47Speaker 01

  It was a lot of work to begin with, but I heard that my friends were gonna give me a surprise 70th birthday party. I didn't want to be 70, and I sure as heck didn't want a surprise that I wasn't in charge of. So I decided to let them plan the little party, get the date, and surprise them. So they thought they were coming to a black tie surprise party for me and I was gonna walk in, "Surprise!" But I surprised them because I went downstairs of my apartment, it's a duplex, and I set up the whole living room as a funeral parlor with a casket, nuns praying, priests praying, everybody was praying. And I was laying out in the casket, an open casket, and I was dead. I wore a beautiful gown. I looked better than most dead people. And I had my makeup perfectly done. So I didn't mind showing off myself.

• 27:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  And in the casket, you're like, "I look good."

• 27:33Speaker 01

  So when the time came, once I was in the casket and they were waiting upstairs for me to arrive from a business trip to shout surprise, my brothers, "Quick, she's coming downstairs, everybody downstairs!" And everybody rushed downstairs. Probably 150 so people rushed downstairs and went to my living room. And as I turned the corner, I heard what I had hoped to hear, a gasp.

• 27:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  Oh!

• 27:55Speaker 01

  As they saw dead Barbara.

• 27:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  It was so much fun.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  They were shocked to see me dead. And then they realized, "How could I really be dead?" And little by little, they nervously started laughing. And they toasted me and said what they liked about me, what was wrong about me. And I had a rabbi give a talk. I had a priest, Monsini, dressed up as a talker.

• 28:19Jamie Kern Lima?

  Were you still in the casket at this point?

• 28:21Speaker 01

  I'm still in the casket. How many times can you hear what people will say about you after you're dead? I heard it all. I know who likes me, what they think, what I did wrong. I know it all. Even my kids talked about me. But then after everything was done and the blessing was done, I jumped out of the casket and I did the tango because I'd secretly been taking lessons in my beautiful red gown. I felt so young and vital and we had a blast of a party. But my doorman told me the next morning that with all the guests going in, he had looked up online and I was declared dead. What's a site where they give you your life and where you went to school? The most common site that everybody looks at to find out about somebody.

• 29:02Jamie Kern Lima?

  To read the obituaries and stuff.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, to me, and I was in obituary and they changed it the next day. How they thought I was dead, I don't know.

• 29:09Jamie Kern Lima?

  That is wild.

• 29:12Speaker 01

  It was fun.

• 29:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  That is wild.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  But I can never give another birthday party because I can't think of a better one.

• 29:17Jamie Kern Lima?

  How are you gonna do a better one than that?

• 29:18Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna do one. They're always pushing me, my friends, my family, "Come on, we need a great party." And you know how to give them, I give great parties, but I can't think of anything better. If you come up with an idea, send it my way, I will do it.

• 29:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  Why didn't you want to turn 70?

• 29:32Speaker 01

  Because 70 to me sounded like an old lady, whereas 60, I convinced myself wasn't an old lady. So just that one year. And I had accomplished everything in my life that I should, but more and more people started asking me when I was gonna retire, which wasn't good. No, I don't think I'm gonna retire. I just felt like all the signals I was misinterpreting around me, misinterpreting really, saw them through my new slanted eyes, 70, 70, 70, and I didn't want to go there. Once you pass your birthday, then you're 71, then 72, easy. You don't mind at all. 75 didn't even hurt. Now I'm 76.

• 30:10Jamie Kern Lima?

  What are your priorities in life now and do you see them changing the next decade?

• 30:15Speaker 01

  They are changing because unlike you, I have older children. They're 30 and 19, Kate is 19, and my son is married with two children. So my priority is, I hate to admit it, are my grandchildren. I didn't think I'd be that kind of an older lady where I live for my grandchildren, but they're so darn cute and they love you so much you can't help yourself. So that's my first priority. My kids are my second priority, to stay close to them. And then my third priority? Is to live life to the fullest so that I don't go to sleep on it. That's all. Whatever that, whatever that might entail.

• 30:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah. Do people ask you about that a lot, about retiring?

• 30:52Speaker 01

  All the time.

• 30:53Jamie Kern Lima?

  Are you never get your, never?

• 30:55Speaker 01

  When you're gonna retire?

• 30:56Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  Why? Why would I wanna retire? I love my work. I love what I'm doing. Do I look that old? No, not really. Just wondering, cuz everyone I have is a friend now. Even the younger friends are all retired. And that's amazing to me. I mean, they're keeping busy and having a great life and they're more free to travel when they want than I am. And sometimes I get envious and I think, why? If I didn't have my work, what I would do tomorrow morning? What, read the paper an extra time or two? No, I don't think so.

• 31:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Not worth it to me.

• 31:26Jamie Kern Lima?

  What does success mean to you?

• 31:28Speaker 01

  Being successful?

• 31:29Jamie Kern Lima?

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  Um, I think it's, well, for me, maybe I'm too needy. But it's really being able to look at yourself or your life and think that people really like you for the right reasons, that you've helped people. Not that I'm a Pollyanna, but I do help a lot of people through Shark Tank, without a doubt. I get people to believe in themselves. I've helped all the people I employed over the years to sort of really have the satisfaction of feeling like you did something worthwhile. I think it's feeling like you did the right things in life.

• 32:01Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. To help other people. It's never the stuff you get. It's never the false feedback you get. It's always a genuine, uh, somebody saying thanks or not saying thanks and you know they, they were really helped by you.

• 32:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:18Speaker 01

  I didn't even expect to thank you anymore for anything. It's just a detail. It's what you feel about it yourself that counts.

• 32:25Jamie Kern Lima?

  Just the offering you put out there?

• 32:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely.

• 32:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. Well, you have helped so many, oh my gosh. Entrepreneurs and the ripple effect of all that.

• 32:35Speaker 01

  I love entrepreneurs.

• 32:36Jamie Kern Lima?

  And you know, I remember when you and I did the press junket for Shark Tank.

• 32:40Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 32:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  I remember learning that people would be surprised to know that you only fly coach on airplanes.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  Do you know what a first class ticket costs? You probably do, right? You probably don't look. Yeah, I look.

• 32:51Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 32:52Speaker 01

  Listen, the way I figure it is a coach ticket is about 25% of a first class ticket. I get the free miles, I could give them away. I have everybody in my family flying on my free miles. What's more important, that everybody gets vacations or that I'm comfortable in first class? I guess I could afford to do both, but I won't because I'll be in coach feeling really smug because I know I have three plane tickets that could take somebody somewhere.

• 33:15Jamie Kern Lima?

  Could take somebody somewhere.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  It accumulates, you know? You see a lot of money.

• 33:18Jamie Kern Lima?

  I love just sharing this with the world. I know people can know this or guess it or assume it. But your generosity and when you talk about your homes, right? You said the one thing you love is homes.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yet you have a scheduling system where people that you know and love are always staying at all your different homes. So they're all being used all the time.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  There's not a single bed in any of my homes that's ever empty.

• 33:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  How amazing is that?

• 33:42Speaker 01

  No, can I tell you what is more satisfying than someone saying, "Thank you, we had a blast." You don't even know who the "we" is, extended family, their family, whatever. "We had a blast." And people have a blast in my ski chalet. It's big, it fits a lot of people. They go to my beach house. I don't mean to brag about how many houses. They come to New York City, wherever I live. Never an empty bed. And boy, is that satisfying. I mean, what really happens, the more money you have, the less you use your homes.

• 34:09Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 34:09Speaker 01

  That's the truth. You sleep there very few nights and they go to waste. What a shame. I wouldn't keep them if they went to it.

• 34:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  An empty bed.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, never. Well, once in a while, someone cancels, but I don't take to it well because someone else could have used that bed if they had told me sooner.

• 34:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  Just like three other people could have had a seat on this plane.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  You got it.

• 34:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. What is something that people would be shocked to know about Shark Tank and don't know?

• 34:33Speaker 01

  About Shark Tank. I think a lot of people don't know that when you see at home a Shark Tank pitch, it's usually about eight minutes, sometimes 12 minutes long. And you know yourself from being on Shark Tank as a guest shark that the pitches can run an hour and a half long at times, an hour typically, 45 minutes. So it's all edited down. So I think what I hear from so many people is, "How do you decide so fast? We had an hour, hour and a half to decide. We didn't have the eight minutes, you know, that you think you saw on Shark Tank." So I think people are surprised at how long the taping actually is. And you know how tedious those days are. How many hours are they? 12-hour days between makeup and appearing and getting off? It's like 12-hour days, day after day.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  But we get to learn a lot about the entrepreneur that the person at home does not know about.

• 35:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah. I have to say, it's an honor for me to get to know you behind the scenes, to know that you're as amazing, even more amazing.

• 35:30Speaker 01

  Oh, you're easy. Come on, you're easy.

• 35:32Jamie Kern Lima?

  No, it's really, it's beautiful. I feel Barbara in my life now. I feel blessed to have met a lot of people that I think are wonderful. And you don't always see that congruency when you meet them in real life.

• 35:45Speaker 01

  Oh, between a public face and a...

• 35:46Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. And you're just like, your heart and your generosity, and you're such a badass that's crushed it in business, that doesn't take, you know what, from anybody. And yet, you're also an empowered woman who empowers other women. You care about other people. You're so generous. The ripple effect of everything you continue to do and will continue to do for a long time.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  The ripple effect just happens, honestly. It just is a, it just happens. But the one that I was always interested was winning, honestly. The ripple just came because I won. I'm very happy I won.

• 36:17Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:18Speaker 01

  I'm not sure I'd be so generous.

• 36:19Jamie Kern Lima?

  And you've won a lot. You've won a lot.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  I have.

• 36:22Jamie Kern Lima?

  You've won a lot.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  I continue to win.

• 36:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  You continue to win.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  And I continue to lose. What else is there?

• 36:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Makes it interesting.

• 36:29Jamie Kern Lima?

  Well, thank you for being so welcoming, so loving, so inspiring for me. I'm grateful that I...

• 36:36Speaker 01

  I'm happy it came to my hometown.

• 36:38Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah. And I'm grateful my Shark Tank experience was alongside of you.

• 36:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm sure you'll be back because the producer loved you. I'm sure he'll be back. Make sure you ask for the order. Because a crowded field. Ask to be back.

• 36:53Jamie Kern Lima?

  Ask me back.

• 36:54Speaker 01

  Through someone else. You don't have to hear a potential rejection. Just get them to keep asking. That's what I do.

• 37:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, it's so funny. I'm like, I think you and I are similar this way. I'm so fearless about rejection now.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  Oh, you are.

• 37:06Jamie Kern Lima?

  I've just had it so many times that it does not faze me. But yeah, but thank you for that. You told me that you said, "Ask me back right away."

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:14Jamie Kern Lima?

  So I will officially ask to be back on the tank. I did love it, but you were a big part of that too. And I just want to honor you and just say, "Thank you for the incredible woman, icon, legend, business boss, badass, and amazing grandma that you are." And I'm just excited to celebrate you for decades to come and all that you continue to win at. All that you continue to win at.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  I just feel the energy on my side here.

• 37:39Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes, it is. If you loved today's episode, my only ask is that you please click the follow or subscribe button for this show on your app and give it a rating or review. And then share this episode with everyone you believe in. Share it with another person in your life who could benefit from it. Post it and share it with others online or in your community who just might need the words and tools and lessons in this episode today. You never know whose life you're meant to change today by sharing this episode. Thank you so much for joining me today. Before you go, I want to share some words with you that couldn't be more true.

• 38:21Jamie Kern Lima?

  You, right now, exactly as you are, are enough and fully worthy. You're worthy of your greatest hopes, your wildest dreams, and all the unconditional love in the world. And it's an honor to welcome you to each and every episode of the Jamie Kern Lima Show. Here, I hope you'll come as you are and heal where you need. Blossom what you choose, journey toward your calling, and stay as long as you like. Because you belong here. You are worthy. You are loved. You are love. I love you. And I cannot wait to join you on the next episode of the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

• 39:10Jamie Kern Lima?

  Living with a constant mental narrative that you're not good enough is exhausting. I know because I spent most of my life in that habit. The words you say to yourself about yourself are so powerful. And when you learn to take control over your self-talk, it's life-changing. And I wanted to give you a free resource that I created for you if this is something that could benefit your life. It's called Five Ways to Overcome Negative Self-Talk and Build Self-Love. And it's a free how-to guide to overcome that negative self-talk to build confidence

• 39:48Jamie Kern Lima?

  and develop unshakable self-love so that you can dream big and keep going in the pursuit of your goals. Don't let self-sabotaging thoughts hinder your progress any longer. It's time to rewrite the script of your life, one filled with self-love, resilience, and unwavering belief. If you're ready to take charge of your narrative, build unwavering confidence, and empower yourself to persevere on the path to your dreams, you can grab your free guide to Stop Overthinking and Learn to Trust Yourself at jamiekernlima.com/resources or click the link in the show notes below.

• 40:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  Who you spend time around is so important as energy is contagious and so is self-belief. And I'd love to hang out with you even more, especially if you could use an extra dose of inspiration, which is exactly why I've created my free weekly newsletter that's also a love letter to you, delivered straight to your inbox from me. If you haven't signed up, to make sure that you get it each week, just go to jamiekernlima.com to make sure you're on the list and you'll get your One-on-One with Jamie weekly newsletter and get ready to believe in you. If you're tired of hearing the bad news every single day and need some inspiration,

• 41:14Jamie Kern Lima?

  some tips, tools, joy, and love, hitting your inbox, I'm your girl. Subscribe at jamiekernlima.com or in the link in the show notes.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  I am so excited for this book. You know why? Because it's going to save so many people. It's going to save.

• 41:36Speaker 04

  Your new beautiful book, Worthy. Get this book? This book? I'm telling you, it's a book that can change anybody's life who picks it up.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Anybody who's ever felt that they were not good enough, didn't measure up, something's missing in your life, I have to tell you.

• 41:53Speaker 04

  It's powerful. It's happening. It's worthy.

• 41:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  Imagine, what would you do if you fully believed in you? I went from struggling waitress facing nonstop rejection to founder of It Cosmetics, a billion dollar company, by learning how to overcome self doubt and believe I'm worthy of my hopes and dreams. And I'm sharing how you can too in my new book, Worthy: How to Believe You Are Enough and Transform Your Life. If you're ready to truly trust yourself and break through that barrier of self doubt and know that where you come from, or even where you are right now, doesn't determine where you're going, then Worthy is for you.

• 42:40Jamie Kern Lima?

  It's time to go from doubting you're enough to knowing you're enough. It's time to step into all of who you are and into the person you were born to be. And it's time to believe that you are worthy of it. Because in life, we don't become what we want. We become what we believe we're worthy of.

• 43:03Jamie Kern Lima?

  Join the Worthy Movement today by grabbing your copy of Worthy anywhere books are sold. Then head to worthybook.com now for free gifts, including my five-part course on Becoming Unstoppable and my 95-page Worthy Workbook Action Plan that teaches you how to implement the tools from the book into your real life right now.

• 43:26Speaker 05

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• 43:29Speaker 06

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• 43:33Speaker 05

  This book literally will teach you how to actually feel worthy so that you can have the strength, you can have the confidence. The lessons in this book and the strategies will change your life. You will never be the same again after you read this book. Jamie's book, Worthy, is a must-read. It is going to inspire you and

• 43:51Speaker 02

  Empower you, give you the hope that you need and the kick in the rear end that you deserve. Jamie's Book Worthy is incredible.

• 43:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  The gifts are going away, but they're all free right now on worthybook.com. It's such an honor to share this podcast together with you, and please note, I'm not a licensed therapist and this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional. If you love this incredible episode with Barbara Corcoran, I promise you, you are going to also love this life-changing episode of the Jamie Kern Lima Show with Oprah, where we talk about how to hear your intuition, tap into your purpose, and ignite your best life. It's up next, just for you.