Joey Graziadei Lifts Us Up

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• 1:25Connor Wood?

  Hi guys, welcome to Brooke and Connor Make-A Podcast. Welcome back if you're a return customer. We have a special guest today. Just like, such an honor, given the circumstances.

• 1:35Brooke Averick?

  Yes.

• 1:36Connor Wood?

  You know?

• 1:37Brooke Averick?

  It would be an honor anytime, but especially on a day like today.

• 1:40Speaker 04

  It's happy to be here. I love you guys.

• 1:41Brooke Averick?

  We're so happy to have you.

• 1:42Connor Wood?

  Guys, we have Joey in the studio today. The thing about your last name, Joey, is like, I'm not gonna say it.

• 1:47Brooke Averick?

  I can do it. I can do it.

• 1:49Speaker 04

  I kinda need you. But can he go first because he's so afraid of it? And then you can say it correctly?

• 1:52Brooke Averick?

  Absolutely.

• 1:53Speaker 04

  How about you correct him after he says it?

• 1:54Brooke Averick?

  I think I can do it.

• 1:55Connor Wood?

  I do wanna say with last names, like, when I save people's last names in my phone, I wanna look and see how I saved yours. Because usually it's just like, this is how I've read it on someone's Instagram handle. So like, this is your last name to me?

• 2:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:07Connor Wood?

  And then you get to a point where you're like, you gotta introduce on the podcast. You know, you feel like, you know when like, you start to second guess yourself in your head? And I'm like, when Lizzie is on the podcast, do not say Mickelpine. Do not say Mickelpine, that's not her name. And then I get ready to say, I'm like, what was the thing I wasn't supposed to say?

• 2:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 2:25Connor Wood?

  Mickelpine.

• 2:27Speaker 04

  And my last name is...

• 2:30Brooke Averick?

  Give it a whirl.

• 2:31Connor Wood?

  Grazie.

• 2:32Speaker 04

  It's not bad, not bad at all. I would accept it, yeah. It's, it's, go ahead, I wanna hear.

• 2:36Brooke Averick?

  Like Grazie?

• 2:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, we have Americanized it as much as possible. It's Grazia Day.

• 2:41Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I wouldn't have thought that.

• 2:42Speaker 04

  I would never make someone do that, so we just say Grazia. We take out the flair.

• 2:46Brooke Averick?

  Grazia Day.

• 2:47Connor Wood?

  Grazia Day.

• 2:47Brooke Averick?

  I like that too.

• 2:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, whatever you feel like saying, I'll answer.

• 2:51Connor Wood?

  Sounds like Italian Thanksgiving, Grazia Day?

• 2:53Speaker 04

  It is, yeah.

• 2:55Brooke Averick?

  I feel like you just kinda got my last name, like, three years into us knowing each other.

• 3:00Connor Wood?

  Well, you know my deal with last, I just explained my deal with last names.

• 3:02Brooke Averick?

  No, I know, I know.

• 3:03Speaker 04

  You take the whole stick, you have to accept it.

• 3:04Brooke Averick?

  It is, it is an uphill battle.

• 3:05Connor Wood?

  What was I saying? Averick? Yeah.

• 3:08Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, but that's fine.

• 3:10Connor Wood?

  Last names aren't easy.

• 3:11Speaker 04

  Yours is really tough.

• 3:12Connor Wood?

  Let me see, yeah. Let me see what I have your last name saved in my phone as.

• 3:19Speaker 04

  I have a feeling it's phonetically just very good.

• 3:21Connor Wood?

  Oh dude, it's not good.

• 3:23Speaker 04

  Let me see it.

• 3:28Speaker 04

  Oh no, oh my god, there's an X and a Y.

• 3:31Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 3:32Speaker 04

  Where'd the X come from? You had to do that before. I can't believe that's real.

• 3:36Connor Wood?

  No, I would not, this is raw. Like, I truly like, G-R-A-D-U-E-X-Y.

• 3:45Speaker 04

  I don't even know what language that could be. Hey.

• 3:48Connor Wood?

  I don't know.

• 3:49Speaker 04

  This is a legitimate fear of yours. I'm sorry for you.

• 3:51Connor Wood?

  No, I'm not, I'm...

• 3:53Brooke Averick?

  Last name blindness.

• 3:53Connor Wood?

  Yeah, last name blindness, truly.

• 3:55Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, well, that's why I always do like, okay, we have Joey G here today.

• 3:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:58Brooke Averick?

  That's why I'm big on like, the first letter, last name. Because last names are hard.

• 4:03Connor Wood?

  Last names are hard.

• 4:04Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Okay, well...

• 4:07Connor Wood?

  Just really quickly.

• 4:08Brooke Averick?

  Yep.

• 4:10Connor Wood?

  Before we, before we let Brooke out of her straitjacket.

• 4:15Brooke Averick?

  I was gonna say, how about you start today?

• 4:17Connor Wood?

  Okay, I just wanna say I was listening to Noah Khan on the way here, like... Have you guys heard of Noah Khan? Like, I just became a huge fan of him, like, last week.

• 4:26Speaker 04

  You just joined?

• 4:27Connor Wood?

  Something clicked in my brain.

• 4:29Speaker 04

  Great guy, really good music.

• 4:30Connor Wood?

  Yeah, wait, have you guys...

• 4:31Speaker 04

  We played golf before, and I played golf with him. Yeah, he's the man.

• 4:36Connor Wood?

  With who?

• 4:36Speaker 04

  With Noah.

• 4:38Connor Wood?

  I just wanna say, like, for a young man to play golf with another young man, like, I'm trying to compare that in terms of intimacy, that's truly like... What could I compare that to?

• 4:49Brooke Averick?

  Second base?

• 4:50Connor Wood?

  A summer's day?

• 4:51Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 4:51Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 4:54Connor Wood?

  It's not, like, I'm, did I say intimacy?

• 4:56Brooke Averick?

  Yes.

• 4:57Speaker 04

  You did say intimacy.

• 4:57Connor Wood?

  That was not the word I was meaning.

• 4:59Speaker 04

  Where were you going with it then?

• 5:00Connor Wood?

  In terms of like...

• 5:01Brooke Averick?

  Well, there is an intimacy there. It doesn't have to be sexual.

• 5:05Speaker 04

  It's a great way to meet someone. I mean, it was, it was a friend of a friend, and I was playing with one of my friends, and he came with them. And great guy, like, we had a great time. He's everything you would think he would be, by the way, like, probably better.

• 5:16Brooke Averick?

  Salt of the earth.

• 5:16Connor Wood?

  That's great, as his number one fan now, as of last week.

• 5:19Speaker 04

  As of last week, yeah.

• 5:19Connor Wood?

  Yeah. I'll figure out the metaphor that I was trying to connect from like, golfing with another person

• 5:28Connor Wood?

  to like, something else, which, maybe I just don't even need to... You're isolated with someone for 18 holes, which is like, four hours, so like...

• 5:33Speaker 04

  It's a great way to meet someone. You learn a lot about them.

• 5:34Connor Wood?

  Yes.

• 5:35Brooke Averick?

  Well, it's better than coffee too, because if you like, run out of things to talk about, you can talk about the game.

• 5:39Connor Wood?

  And if you drink coffee for four hours, you'll shit your pants and have a heart attack.

• 5:42Speaker 04

  True.

• 5:42Connor Wood?

  But, and you might also do that on the golf course. I did that in front of you on the golf course.

• 5:47Brooke Averick?

  Some people might do that.

• 5:48Connor Wood?

  Some people might. I might be wearing white shorts.

• 5:52Connor Wood?

  I was listening to him today, and I was singing along to "You're Gonna Go Far." And I was like, you know what's so crazy? A square is not a rectangle, whatever. You know, that whole thing? A rectangle is not a square.

• 6:04Brooke Averick?

  Is that in the song?

• 6:05Connor Wood?

  No, but I'm just thinking, Noah Khan could have thrived in the Lumineer years? Lumineers?

• 6:14Connor Wood?

  Peter Bjorn and whatever, well, I can't think of, you know what I'm saying, right? Like, Tumblr years, Noah Khan could have had a career.

• 6:20Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 6:20Connor Wood?

  But like...

• 6:22Speaker 04

  He's doing it now.

• 6:22Connor Wood?

  He's doing it now, like, that's a true testament to like, artistry. Songwriting, performance.

• 6:28Speaker 04

  Shout out Noah.

• 6:29Connor Wood?

  And vibes.

• 6:30Brooke Averick?

  Thank you for sharing. I love when you get passionate about something.

• 6:32Speaker 04

  It's true, though. I mean, he's a very talented artist. And what you're trying to say is, no matter what time, if you are that good of an artist, you can do it.

• 6:40Brooke Averick?

  That is exactly what I think he's trying to say.

• 6:42Connor Wood?

  Transcendence.

• 6:43Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, he's transcending the time.

• 6:45Speaker 04

  I could just be here every week trying to like, decipher what Connor's saying, if you guys want.

• 6:49Connor Wood?

  Well, then, tell me what I meant by intimacy in golf.

• 6:51Speaker 04

  I, I think you were trying to say it's like, the best way to meet someone. I, I think I got it. It is intimate, I'm with you. I mean, it is a nice way to meet someone.

• 7:01Connor Wood?

  You just reminded me of my dream.

• 7:02Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 7:03Connor Wood?

  Which no one gives a single shit about.

• 7:04Speaker 04

  I honestly, I just want you to keep going.

• 7:06Connor Wood?

  Well, I had a dream that I had moved in with roommates again.

• 7:11Connor Wood?

  And then I had, the Amazon people showed up to my door, and they had offered me a choice between a new TV or a new set of golf clubs.

• 7:18Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 7:18Connor Wood?

  And I chose the golf clubs. So thank you, that's my dream.

• 7:21Brooke Averick?

  To golf with Noah.

• 7:22Speaker 04

  I've never heard Amazon people give you a choice. They usually come with a package.

• 7:25Connor Wood?

  Well, it was weird, and I was just like, well, I don't need a TV. This is a dumb, I just...

• 7:30Speaker 04

  I think I would accept that.

• 7:32Brooke Averick?

  I want you to get everything you need to out.

• 7:35Connor Wood?

  Why don't you just go ahead?

• 7:36Brooke Averick?

  I don't, well, I was gonna, I obviously need to speak on D W T S.

• 7:41Speaker 04

  We have to.

• 7:41Brooke Averick?

  If I, if I may.

• 7:42Speaker 04

  I would love to know your thoughts.

• 7:44Brooke Averick?

  Thanks, Joey. Some, some people might not wanna hear them, but I, I would like to give them. And Connor, I wanna give you the opportunity to, to speak first, just about, how are you feeling about everything?

• 7:57Brooke Averick?

  I wanna say, I am a baby and had a cold and couldn't make it to the ballroom last night, which is definitely for the best, I think. Just, just based off of the fact that I made four different black text, or black screen, white text Instagram posts that I didn't end up posting last night.

• 8:15Connor Wood?

  Can I read through your Instagram stories in terms of frames from last night?

• 8:19Speaker 04

  I'm really upset you were not there next to me. I was ready to get the, the live commentary.

• 8:24Brooke Averick?

  I should've pushed through, but it really, like, it's, it's good I wasn't there because I wanna be allowed to go back.

• 8:28Speaker 04

  I get it, I get it.

• 8:29Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. You can read through, Connor. I was being very, I was being so good.

• 8:35Connor Wood?

  On her Instagram story.

• 8:36Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 8:38Connor Wood?

  Found a livestream.

• 8:40Brooke Averick?

  Facts.

• 8:42Connor Wood?

  Next one is a picture of Riley and I. They're amazing, my chest looks really good in this?

• 8:46Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 8:46Connor Wood?

  They're amazing, I'll bite my tongue until it bleeds, XX. Next one, black screen, I have turned off the program for the time being.

• 8:56Connor Wood?

  And then a lot of frames of

• 9:00Connor Wood?

  people's responses.

• 9:01Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:02Connor Wood?

  And then you said-

• 9:02Speaker 04

  Letting other people do the fight for it.

• 9:03Brooke Averick?

  Exactly.

• 9:04Speaker 04

  Smart.

• 9:05Connor Wood?

  And then I, I really shouldn't read through the rest, but you did-

• 9:08Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 9:09Connor Wood?

  You reminded people to vote. And you know what's funny is like last night-

• 9:13Brooke Averick?

  Me POV me biting my tongue by making 18 Instagram stories. But I mean, moral of the story is just like you're doing exactly what you're supposed to be doing. You are, and I've seen a lot of people saying this, like you're the embodiment of Dancing with the Stars. Like you go on and you just, you give it your all every single week and you are a joy to watch. Truly. And I think, and you're better every week and, and it's just, we're, we're very blessed to be in a timeline where we're watching you dance. So thank you for, for doing that.

• 9:46Connor Wood?

  Thank you for allowing me.

• 9:48Brooke Averick?

  And that's what I have to say about you. And I personally, personally thought that last night was one of your best.

• 9:55Speaker 04

  I think you can make the argument it was his best dance.

• 9:58Brooke Averick?

  I think, I think you could.

• 9:58Speaker 04

  If you look at like the difficulty of it and what you had to do, the amount of content you had, I think you can clearly say it was your best dance. And you know that because you told me after how good you felt after.

• 10:09Brooke Averick?

  And-

• 10:09Connor Wood?

  Joey came to dinner with my parents.

• 10:11Brooke Averick?

  Oh, that's really sweet.

• 10:12Speaker 04

  It was really nice. We got to debrief it all. It was fun. You should have been there.

• 10:16Brooke Averick?

  I know, I should have been there. I really should have. But um, what hurts me is I, I myself watched the dance and said, that's his best dance. I saw how excited you and Riley were. I saw like you had a big hug and just the biggest, the smiles on your faces. And I know that you felt the same way. And everyone felt the same way. Everyone was so excited. And then it's just like, spirit crushed. That's the, that's the problem that I'm having is like, you have said so many times, Joey, you've said, everyone says like, this is supposed to be fun. And I feel like we, we lose that a little bit. When the judges give their feedback, because I'm, I feel like we're missing like, active critiques and we're just like, putting a damper on the fun. That's how I feel. Um-

• 11:01Connor Wood?

  That was-

• 11:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, no. That was very well said. I don't think it was mean at all. I think for giving context on Dancing with the Stars, which maybe some viewers haven't known, you obviously getting you to the show. That style always gets crushed. It's very rare for someone to do a samba and then not to get critical on the technique. I think it was unfortunate that that was probably maybe the best you could have done a samba. And I think they should have given a little more love to that. But you went after Amber did hers and it was a, it's, it's a hard dance. Like I got ripped for my samba. I was the only one to do samba on my season when I did it and no one, I got ripped for the technique on it too. And Jenna and I had the same feeling you and Riley had. We were so excited. We did it the best we possibly could.

• 11:46Speaker 04

  And that is disheartening, but

• 11:48Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 11:49Speaker 04

  The key is to keep smiling through it, which I think you guys did because it was a really good dance for you guys. And sometimes having online presence after going to the comment section, I think you guys had like 3,000 more comments on your post than everyone else did. Because people are upset that you got underscored. That is sometimes better than even getting a high score. We had the same thing happen our season on the samba. And then it just kind of lifted us up throughout the rest of the competition. So that's how you have to like, look at it now.

• 12:16Brooke Averick?

  That's so true. And maybe, maybe like, maybe that's why they're doing it. I don't know. I don't know how like production works or the minds of the judges. But like, maybe they're like, let's, let's give everyone else the opportunity to just really lift him up. I don't know. I literally don't know. I'm racking my brain.

• 12:33Connor Wood?

  Let them lift him up.

• 12:34Brooke Averick?

  Let's let them, let's, let us not do it and let's let them do it. So I don't know, man. I mean, I am just, you know, going in circles trying to think of like, why, why my friend is not getting the scores that he deserves, but-

• 12:47Connor Wood?

  I will say, this will be the only time I respond in this sort of way. I think that disheartening is a good way to put it just because the samba and it being like a harder style dance, I was expecting them to be like, like you did a samba.

• 13:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:02Connor Wood?

  You know, like, and there was kind of no mention of like the level of difficulty of that dance and not having any dance experience. And like coming into this genuinely like ground zero.

• 13:13Connor Wood?

  So that was kind of like, oh, but did you see the, the, you know, like-

• 13:17Brooke Averick?

  I do too, and I did.

• 13:18Connor Wood?

  It wasn't my samba. I know it wasn't perfect, you know, like I'm not, I'm not claiming it was perfect, but like, leading up to that, I was just, it was an uphill battle for the whole week. I was like, I'm not gonna learn, I can't learn this. I was sick. As a dog the whole week and like, I was just, it was just a tough week. So for us getting through that, the like joy was like, oh, we, we did it and I didn't mess up the like technical parts. We're gonna keep going out there and doing, you know, like exactly what we're, I'm gonna go learn the dances, you know, like that's like, that's-

• 13:46Speaker 04

  It's all you can do and have fun doing it, bro.

• 13:49Connor Wood?

  And have fun.

• 13:49Speaker 04

  Commented on it. That is the most important thing. That's why people are loving watching it. You have no experience.

• 13:53Connor Wood?

  Yes.

• 13:54Speaker 04

  You're having fun doing it. That is what it's all about. You're gonna embrace it. You're gonna wear a goatee. Like no one talked enough of, the fact they didn't comment on your goatee was a mistake.

• 14:02Connor Wood?

  Well, Derek did before giving me this.

• 14:04Speaker 04

  Good. I'm glad.

• 14:07Connor Wood?

  Yeah, it's, I am okay. The judges' feedback is, is not gonna ever break my speed. Like it's, it's not because when we feel good, you know, I, I beat myself up more the previous week when that dance like, was the, you know, the, the ground hump heard around the world, you know, I, I walked off that and I was like, I messed up so many frigging steps. Like I was like, I was so bummed. And I walked off last night like, I feel good about that.

• 14:31Brooke Averick?

  Good.

• 14:31Connor Wood?

  And I'm my harshest critic, of course, and I watch, I can't watch any of these dances back. I watched back last night and I was like, oh, like I had a little bit of a disconnect, like, truly, it's me dancing and I usually I watch back and I'm like, this guy's disgusting. When I watch back my dances, I'm like, he's foul. I watched back last night and I was like, literally I am removed from that person dancing because that is not me. And I was like, oh, like he, that was pretty good. Like I didn't see any-

• 14:57Speaker 04

  That's all you can do.

• 14:58Connor Wood?

  Dang. So I mean, I don't know. It's whatever. I think it's a good place to be in before you get into a dedication. And I don't know, can I say my dance next week? That is, we have confirmed that we can say, so next week is a Veeny's Waltz.

• 15:09Speaker 04

  Such a good day.

• 15:10Connor Wood?

  Which we went, we talked about last night. It's just like, it's slower.

• 15:13Brooke Averick?

  I think that's what they want to see from you too. So I think that'll be good.

• 15:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, you had the whole leading man thing. That's a dance where you're gonna have to lead. It's slower. So you can really focus on the movements. I think that was the hardest part of the samba is it's so fast that sometimes you get lost in it. I think you're going to enjoy practice this me, this week more. I think you're gonna enjoy the rehearsal studio. Because now you get to do a completely different style. I think it's gonna be your best dance. I'm, I'll put money on it right now. I think, I, I see, I see eights in your future. I'll say it. I, I think it's gonna happen.

• 15:42Connor Wood?

  This is the space to say that.

• 15:43Speaker 04

  I know. I just, I see it. I see it coming.

• 15:45Connor Wood?

  Well, I love you for that and I feel it too.

• 15:51Connor Wood?

  It's time.

• 15:52Speaker 04

  It's time.

• 15:53Brooke Averick?

  It's time.

• 15:54Speaker 04

  Need to improve.

• 15:54Brooke Averick?

  It's overdue.

• 15:56Connor Wood?

  You know, it's so embarrassing. Like this gives me the ick so bad. Like you guys think you saw my face reacting to the scores we were getting? I was reacting to how icked out I was at like, I finished the dance and I was like, oh my God, we just got a nine?

• 16:12Connor Wood?

  And you know what's, you know what else is so crazy? I want to tell everybody this. So last night there was a guest judge.

• 16:16Brooke Averick?

  I love him.

• 16:17Connor Wood?

  Joe Buck.

• 16:18Brooke Averick?

  I love Joe Buck.

• 16:19Connor Wood?

  Well spoken. You said it last night. What did you say about him being a guest judge?

• 16:23Speaker 04

  So it is hard to be a guest judge on the show.

• 16:25Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 16:25Speaker 04

  It's, it's definitely one of the tough positions because you have to, they, they don't know anything about dancing. It's very rare that they do. But Joe embraced it.

• 16:33Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 16:33Speaker 04

  He was short and concise because he was a professional and the scoring of the guest judge is very clear in my opinion. You have to give love to people, but you can't be sporadic. There has to be some type of strategy. He not once was more than one point above the next judge. Or in a lot of times he had the same score as another judge. He crushed it. He was always the highest number, but he never went too high and he never was too low. He was consistently every time on the number. He was, in my opinion, the best guest judge I've seen on the show.

• 17:03Brooke Averick?

  And you could tell he really loved the show and watched it. Hey guys, we want to take a quick break to thank a sponsor of today's episode, Goodles. I feel like mac and cheese is one of those foods that you can never grow out of loving. It's the ultimate comfort food and honestly, sometimes nothing else hits the spot. And Goodles has somehow made mac and cheese even better. It has that same cheesy, delicious taste we all grew up loving. But it's packed with protein and nutrients.

• 17:29Connor Wood?

  I've been loving Goodles, especially their single serve mac and cheese cups, because a lot of times I'm popping in and out of my apartment. All I have time for is like a 30 second snack. This is perfect. I love keeping them stocked at home because they're easy and they're ready in just minutes. It's so much easier than having to cook something and don't get me started about waiting for a delivery. And my favorite flavor is Chetty Mac. It's creamy, it's cheesy, and it genuinely, it tastes very good, if not better than just regular mac and cheese.

• 17:53Brooke Averick?

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• 18:21Connor Wood?

  I feel like Goodles is the perfect combination of convenience and comfort food. Like you get something that tastes amazing, it's ready in minutes, and it has nutrients you can feel good about. I need to justify almost everything I eat, so this is like a good little snack for me. If you haven't tried Goodles yet, now is the time. Pick up Goodles on your next shopping trip. It's available nationwide at Target and Walmart, plus many other grocery stores and retailers. And don't forget the single-serve cups.

• 18:45Brooke Averick?

  Hey, guys. We want to take a quick break to thank a sponsor of today's episode, Rocket Money. I feel like one of the worst parts of being an adult is having to constantly keep track of where your money is going. Between subscriptions, bills, and all those random little purchases throughout the week, it's so easy to lose track of how much you're actually spending. And that's exactly why Rocket Money is such a helpful tool.

• 19:07Connor Wood?

  I feel like subscriptions are especially easy to forget about. I have a ton that I look at. When I downloaded that Star app the other day, I was like, oh, my God, why is this $15? And I had to remember to go through the subscriptions to unsubscribe to that, and then I woke up there, and I was like, oh, my God, there's so many. But Rocket Money helps you see all your subscriptions in one place. You can figure out which ones you don't actually use and which ones you don't need anymore. And if there's something that you want to cancel, you can do it right in the app with just a few taps.

• 19:32Brooke Averick?

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• 19:51Connor Wood?

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• 20:10Brooke Averick?

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• 20:39Connor Wood?

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• 20:56Brooke Averick?

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• 21:30Connor Wood?

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• 21:52Brooke Averick?

  And he had really, he just had really good and concise and kind feedback.

• 21:57Connor Wood?

  I love him for it. Obviously, that was my step.

• 21:59Brooke Averick?

  Bring him back.

• 22:00Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I think so, too. And then this is the last thing I'll say about the dance, unless we have anything else.

• 22:05Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I do have one more thing. You say, you talk.

• 22:07Connor Wood?

  I just, it was just like a fun perform, like, I literally went out there and I was like, that was the first answer I went out and I was like, let's just like show them our dance. You know what I mean? Like, we've been practicing this dance. Let's show it to them. You know, like, it truly felt like, I don't know if you guys ever did this, like, I think there was one year when Shrek came out. I remember being in Michigan with my cousins, and we were in their basement, and we came up with a dance. And it was a lot of flips and stuff.

• 22:36Speaker 04

  Fun.

• 22:37Connor Wood?

  But it was that typical, like, we had to, everyone sit down in the living room. We were working on something downstairs.

• 22:44Speaker 04

  It's a big moment.

• 22:45Connor Wood?

  Everyone sit down. And then we proceeded to do a bunch of bullshit. And then we were like, so there, there's our dance, you know? And that's what I felt like last night. It was kind of like, you know, we want our friends to sleep over. We made this dance for you. Can we show you the dance?

• 23:02Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 23:02Connor Wood?

  It was truly just like a performance piece. And there was the, I will say, every time I do, every time I take a creative leap in terms of facial hair or like the mullet, I do not get as much love.

• 23:17Speaker 04

  I've given you love. The mullet was incredible.

• 23:19Connor Wood?

  The first week or the second week when we did the tango and I had my hair slicked back, whatever, got a lot, I looked at my Instagram, and you know, you have a little pop every week. I looked after the mullet week, and I had about 20 new followers after the 16 million viewers viewed the dance.

• 23:35Brooke Averick?

  It's interesting.

• 23:36Connor Wood?

  I'm gonna go bare-faced next week and just kind of my natural look.

• 23:39Speaker 04

  I think you might have to go even deeper. I think we need to do something that's a little bit more, yeah, something that's just a little bit more aggressive and see how far you can go, maybe.

• 23:47Connor Wood?

  Ponytail?

• 23:48Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. It'd be good.

• 23:49Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 23:50Speaker 04

  Beanie's Waltz Dedication Night.

• 23:52Connor Wood?

  Ponytail.

• 23:53Speaker 04

  Ponytail.

• 23:53Connor Wood?

  So tell us the inspiration behind the ponytail.

• 23:55Speaker 04

  Maybe we have to wait a little bit longer.

• 23:56Brooke Averick?

  I do think you should be bare-faced for the Waltz.

• 23:59Connor Wood?

  Yes, I agree.

• 24:00Speaker 04

  Serious Connor's coming out next week.

• 24:02Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, if you don't mind.

• 24:03Speaker 04

  I like it.

• 24:04Connor Wood?

  What is your sweater?

• 24:05Speaker 04

  This is Peter Millar.

• 24:07Connor Wood?

  Oh, my God.

• 24:08Brooke Averick?

  My pop-up loves him. Yeah.

• 24:10Connor Wood?

  Him.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  He is the person.

• 24:12Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 24:13Connor Wood?

  Is he?

• 24:13Speaker 04

  I don't know. Has anyone ever met Peter?

• 24:15Brooke Averick?

  Well, he's gotta be. He's gotta be a person.

• 24:18Speaker 04

  At one point, Peter was a person.

• 24:20Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 24:20Connor Wood?

  Peter was a piper. For sure.

• 24:23Brooke Averick?

  Name, I don't think.

• 24:24Connor Wood?

  What was his last name? M-I-L-L-A-R.

• 24:28Speaker 04

  Two L's, A-R.

• 24:29Brooke Averick?

  I feel like he's like a real, golfers love him.

• 24:31Connor Wood?

  Mm-hmm, yeah. Mm-hmm, yeah. And, you know, he golfs with no.

• 24:35Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I know that.

• 24:36Speaker 04

  I do golf.

• 24:37Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I know.

• 24:37Connor Wood?

  You know what?

• 24:38Speaker 04

  Real guy.

• 24:39Brooke Averick?

  He's not a real person.

• 24:41Connor Wood?

  Oh, he's not a real person.

• 24:43Brooke Averick?

  Why did they just, where did the name come from?

• 24:45Speaker 04

  That's a, that's a wild business choice. Just to be like, we're gonna name our company after a guy that doesn't exist.

• 24:53Brooke Averick?

  Kind of cool.

• 24:54Connor Wood?

  He named the company Peter Millar because it sounded European. Okay, me as fuck.

• 24:59Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 25:00Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 25:00Connor Wood?

  This sounds, this sounds European.

• 25:02Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 25:03Connor Wood?

  I mean, you're talking to two people who named their podcast their name.

• 25:06Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 25:07Speaker 04

  Originality.

• 25:08Connor Wood?

  Placeholder, and it kind of just stuck.

• 25:10Brooke Averick?

  Good to know.

• 25:11Speaker 04

  That actually blows my mind. I'm gonna be honest. I really thought it was a person.

• 25:15Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Why would it not be? But I guess now, now we know.

• 25:18Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 25:19Brooke Averick?

  Okay, two more, like, really quick things to say about.

• 25:22Connor Wood?

  I keep like, look up Peter Millar, see if it's a real person.

• 25:25Brooke Averick?

  I know. You're trying to delay me, but I'm, really, what I have to say is not bad, except for it is a direct message to the judges. What I have to say is not bad, but if you, if you're any of the judges, hey, listen up, this is a PSA right to you. I will, I, you know, I used to be a teacher, and, you know, we learn that when you're giving feedback, you always, you need to start with one nice thing to say. And it does seem like they're doing that for most people. So I want to hear a nice thing that you might have to say about my friend Connor, who's working really hard. So it's always nice to hear nice things, and then you can, you can give your more critical feedback. But let's not

• 26:09Brooke Averick?

  forget about the nice parts. And the second thing, is that fine to say?

• 26:11Speaker 04

  I think that's very fair.

• 26:13Brooke Averick?

  That's very fair, right?

• 26:14Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I think so.

• 26:15Brooke Averick?

  I think so.

• 26:15Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I wouldn't mind a little positivity sprinkled in.

• 26:18Brooke Averick?

  An ounce, and then you can give your, then you can give some feedback.

• 26:23Connor Wood?

  I black, that was the first time I fully black. Like, I literally was like.

• 26:28Speaker 04

  There's nothing worse than you feel good, and then you can tell from the judge's demeanor right away. I clocked it with Dylan when I was sitting there. We were like, that was great. And I looked at the judge, and I was like, oh, no.

• 26:38Connor Wood?

  Well, the, like, there are good dancers and there are bad dancers.

• 26:41Speaker 04

  That's, what?

• 26:41Connor Wood?

  That's, wait, what did I do?

• 26:44Speaker 04

  That's tough.

• 26:45Connor Wood?

  I would know, then, then you go in your head and you're like, oh, my God, what did, what did, did I miss a section? Like, I literally, it was in my head, like. What did I do? What must I have done?

• 26:54Brooke Averick?

  And the playback that they played when they were criticizing, I was like, so tell us what's wrong with the playback.

• 26:59Connor Wood?

  What was the playback?

• 27:01Brooke Averick?

  The part of you doing the dance that I didn't see a problem.

• 27:03Speaker 04

  While you're doing the dance, yeah.

• 27:04Connor Wood?

  No, I, I, I know because they have slow motioned my F-ups every week. And

• 27:11Brooke Averick?

  But what they slow motioned, it was just, it wasn't an F-up. So that's why it was confusing. Like, they didn't say anything. They didn't say anything.

• 27:20Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I saw the first comment I read this morning. I'm done after this. I'm done. Okay? Like, I'm done. Cause like, I'm becoming a masochist and like, I don't think I enjoy this, but like, obviously it does something in my brain that like, turns me on. Not sexually, but well, maybe. I don't know.

• 27:35Speaker 04

  We, we will find out.

• 27:36Connor Wood?

  Um, like the first comment was like, Papa, we love you, but, and I go, baby.

• 27:41Speaker 04

  No, but.

• 27:42Connor Wood?

  Let me take your phone. I did.

• 27:45Brooke Averick?

  I, the amount of DMs that I've been getting, please tell Connor to unblock me. I mean, I

• 27:49Connor Wood?

  No, like, I, I am not blocking people willy nilly. I've asked for zero constructive criticism from anyone outside of the judges.

• 27:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's fair.

• 27:57Connor Wood?

  Like, if you hand it to me, be ready to

• 27:59Speaker 04

  Sending love to my comments.

• 28:00Connor Wood?

  You have lost access, unfortunately. You come into my comment section and say, I haven't really been noticing any improvement?

• 28:07Brooke Averick?

  I know the exact comment you're talking about because I blocked her too.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  Hey, good.

• 28:10Connor Wood?

  Well, you're, you're gone now.

• 28:12Speaker 04

  Not allowed anymore, which is

• 28:12Connor Wood?

  Yeah, well, hopefully you learn your lesson and maybe you can make a second Instagram account and that is gonna be difficult.

• 28:17Speaker 04

  Papa has to be led with positivity. There can't be negativity.

• 28:21Connor Wood?

  No, and it's just, it was like, I haven't really been noticing improvement. I want to remind you, the dances are different dances. Like, you can't notice improvement from my past samba, because I haven't done a samba ever in my life.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  I will say, I think moving forward, you are not gonna get the same criticism you did last night. I feel like that is different now. Like, you, you, that is the dance that, on my season, I was the only one that did a samba because everyone was afraid of getting ripped apart for a samba. Samba is not a very common dance people do on the show because they know how hard it is to learn in a week. The pros are a lot of times afraid to teach samba. So, you're, you're gonna be in a better spot moving forward. I promise.

• 29:00Connor Wood?

  I pray. I, I made a pretty

• 29:03Brooke Averick?

  Shout out to Riley also, by the way. I feel like, she really is so amazing. Her choreography is so amazing. She's such a good teacher. And I loved how she got up there last night and was like, he's never danced before. I was, I like

• 29:14Speaker 04

  Reminder.

• 29:15Brooke Averick?

  Awesome reminder, my love.

• 29:16Connor Wood?

  She got like

• 29:17Brooke Averick?

  She was talking to my

• 29:18Connor Wood?

  She got mama bear last night.

• 29:20Brooke Averick?

  We were talking a bit and I was like

• 29:22Connor Wood?

  She got a mama bear. She's like, I don't care that my mic's on. And I go, I didn't even hear what you said. And she's like, okay, well.

• 29:28Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, she's, she's so wonderful.

• 29:30Connor Wood?

  She's, yeah, she got mama bear last night. Um, there are ups and downs.

• 29:34Brooke Averick?

  Totally. You're, and you're riding the waves like a, like a pro.

• 29:38Connor Wood?

  I'm, I'm going to be okay.

• 29:40Speaker 04

  What week are we going into right now?

• 29:41Connor Wood?

  Six. So we're at the halfway

• 29:42Speaker 04

  This was where I questioned if I enjoyed it too. And I think you're going through that where it's like, you're starting to get critical. Just keep having fun, dude. That's what you're so

• 29:50Connor Wood?

  This made me have more fun. I am, I am having fun.

• 29:53Speaker 04

  Great.

• 29:54Connor Wood?

  And like, I am, you're not gonna, you're not gonna catch me comparing myself to anyone else in my season. There's no comparison. I truly came on with nothing. This is incredible. Like, truly, I am Spider-Man. Like, this is like, the stuff that's happened. One, one thing. Learned the samba in a week. I was sick. I took a day

• 30:14Brooke Averick?

  One thing.

• 30:14Connor Wood?

  One thing. I, I was sick. I went to Dallas for a day, which like, you take a day off of practice in this competition. It is like taking, it's like dog years, you know, like, it's like taking an extended amount of time. I went because of Dallas Cheerleaders. That's a once in a lifetime thing. That's

• 30:30Speaker 04

  Gotta go.

• 30:30Connor Wood?

  A group of young women that are incredible to me. I have to go dance with my girls, you know? That was, you know?

• 30:36Speaker 04

  Fair.

• 30:36Connor Wood?

  Could have been a

• 30:37Speaker 04

  Bad week to do it, but fair.

• 30:38Connor Wood?

  Bad week to do it. Dylan said last night at dinner, he goes, when I saw that you went to Dallas, I said, usually, you know, I, I, I hold back because I know that you guys are okay with votes. I hold back on reminding people to vote for Connor. I went ahead and posted vote for Connor, my story this week. Cause I thought that you might need it.

• 30:55Brooke Averick?

  He's a good guy.

• 30:56Connor Wood?

  Yeah, he's, Dylan is so smart. Like, Dylan is all strategy, isn't he?

• 31:00Speaker 04

  He is so strategic. And I, it's amazing when you see, like, a show like Dancing with the Stars where you don't think it's strategy, that man has, he has found a code.

• 31:08Connor Wood?

  He has.

• 31:09Speaker 04

  It's impressive. He was, last night, we were, he literally said at the table last night, he was like, Joey was good at dancing. I was good at strategy. I was like, thank you for saying that, but I didn't realize how much you thought through this. And he had a, I mean, he was telling everything. I was like, damn, like, I wish I thought of it this much.

• 31:23Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 31:23Brooke Averick?

  He's a thinker.

• 31:24Connor Wood?

  That's why he won traitor.

• 31:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  Really, really good.

• 31:27Brooke Averick?

  Exactly.

• 31:28Connor Wood?

  Um, he's incredible. I, I, I also, I forget, I was about to say something else related, but I was, in terms of ups and downs, I went to lunch with Ezra the other day. And I'm sitting in the car and we're talking. He's obviously like a ray of sunshine. And he's, he's always like, he should, he should be a, first of all, I'm saying, you need to run for office.

• 31:49Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 31:49Connor Wood?

  You'd be a great bachelor. Unfortunately, too young.

• 31:52Brooke Averick?

  How old do you have to be to be the bachelor?

• 31:54Connor Wood?

  It's just like, we, would be weird to put a 21-year-old as the bachelor.

• 31:57Speaker 04

  It'd be, it'd be a tough spot. I don't think there is an age limit, but it's supposed to be like, obviously serious about getting married. I don't, I, I wouldn't be serious getting married at 21.

• 32:06Connor Wood?

  No, it'd be a fun dating show.

• 32:07Speaker 04

  Fun dating show.

• 32:08Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 32:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:09Connor Wood?

  Um, it would be weird to put, and I don't, you know, he's

• 32:11Brooke Averick?

  I feel like they could make a show just for Ezra.

• 32:13Connor Wood?

  For Ezra.

• 32:14Speaker 04

  They should. That guy, I met him for the first time last night. I love him.

• 32:17Connor Wood?

  Mary, freck, kill.

• 32:21Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 32:21Connor Wood?

  Great idea. Netflix.

• 32:22Brooke Averick?

  That's really good.

• 32:23Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 32:23Connor Wood?

  Um, now, I'm talking to him about

• 32:27Brooke Averick?

  That was really good.

• 32:28Connor Wood?

  Really good. Um, I'm talking to him about ups and downs of the show and I say, we're driving. I'm, I'm driving the young man and I'm like, you know, man, like, I know you can't relate to this, but this season has been a lot of ups and downs for me. And like, in terms of dancing, I have good dances, I have bad dances. And, and I know that you, I mean, you've been crushing the whole season, so that's hard to relate to for you. And he goes, yeah, I guess in terms of dance, it's hard to relate to, but in my life, I've had ups and downs. And I go, I almost crashed right into the pink wall. I was like, oh, babe, I just shouldn't have talked. Yeah. Here you go.

• 33:04Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Got it.

• 33:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, forgot. Sorry.

• 33:09Connor Wood?

  Jones on third. Four more minutes away. Okay. So how do I continue?

• 33:14Brooke Averick?

  That's hard.

• 33:15Speaker 04

  But let's talk more about my dancing. You just run right back into it. Double down.

• 33:18Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 33:19Connor Wood?

  Um, but

• 33:21Brooke Averick?

  That's for one. That's for one.

• 33:23Connor Wood?

  But he is, he truly like, I told him, like, you should run for office. I don't know how old you have to be to be mayor, but like, he could be mayor.

• 33:29Speaker 04

  There's no rules.

• 33:30Connor Wood?

  Um, he's just, he's an incredible I don't think that's for mayor.

• 33:35Brooke Averick?

  Oh.

• 33:35Speaker 04

  Is there actually a rule? I don't think there's a rule.

• 33:37Brooke Averick?

  Thirty-five for president.

• 33:38Speaker 04

  Wasn't there like TV shows where there was like 18-year-old mayor? Was that just a TV show thing? Or yeah?

• 33:43Connor Wood?

  Cory in the house.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:46Brooke Averick?

  He just lived in the White House.

• 33:47Connor Wood?

  Oh.

• 33:49Brooke Averick?

  Why did he live in the White House? Because Victor was the chef.

• 33:51Speaker 04

  That was something. Oh, here we go.

• 33:53Connor Wood?

  Me thinking Cory.

• 33:54Speaker 04

  Rule one, be a US citizen. Check.

• 33:57Connor Wood?

  Oh, wait, is this for mayor? Be a, be a registered voter, okay? Not have been convicted of a felony, blah, blah, blah. Not have served two terms in office. Okay.

• 34:07Brooke Averick?

  Okay, I, so no age?

• 34:08Speaker 04

  So are we starting our campaign for Ezra being mayor right now?

• 34:11Connor Wood?

  Yeah, like, should we throw his hat in the ring?

• 34:13Speaker 04

  I think we should. We might be a little late to the ring right now.

• 34:17Connor Wood?

  Based on how his fans are, I would not be surprised if we saw an uptick in terms of like, people moving to LA so that they can be a registered voter here.

• 34:23Brooke Averick?

  That's a way to get people to the polls.

• 34:25Speaker 04

  Honestly.

• 34:26Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 34:26Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 34:27Speaker 04

  New pipeline, Dancing with the Stars to mayor.

• 34:29Connor Wood?

  Dance your way to the polls.

• 34:30Brooke Averick?

  That's a pipeline we haven't done yet. There's so many pipelines happening.

• 34:33Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 34:33Brooke Averick?

  That one is new.

• 34:34Connor Wood?

  I agree.

• 34:35Brooke Averick?

  I have one last thing to say.

• 34:37Connor Wood?

  Circle back one more time.

• 34:38Brooke Averick?

  I'm not even kidding. And then I want to talk about Joey, because I have a lot of things to say there as well.

• 34:42Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 34:43Brooke Averick?

  There was an edit I saw this morning of you to the song. And I know you, have you ever seen The Greatest Showman?

• 34:51Speaker 04

  Love it. One of my favorite movies.

• 34:52Connor Wood?

  I have not. I think I need to watch it.

• 34:54Speaker 04

  You need to add it.

• 34:55Connor Wood?

  And I want to talk about it after, as someone who hasn't seen it.

• 34:58Speaker 04

  I think, I think you would really enjoy it now that, especially because now you're into this whole pageantry of Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, you are a showman now.

• 35:05Brooke Averick?

  It's one of my favorite movies. And there's this song in it called Never Enough. It's a beautiful song.

• 35:10Connor Wood?

  Oh, my God. I know what you're talking about. I cried last night.

• 35:12Brooke Averick?

  Someone made an edit of you to it? I mean, I literally, Connor, it's one of my favorite songs.

• 35:16Connor Wood?

  It made me so sad.

• 35:18Brooke Averick?

  I literally, I put my hand over my heart like it was the pledge of allegiance.

• 35:20Connor Wood?

  I was drenched in sweat.

• 35:22Brooke Averick?

  Can we watch? It's like so emotional.

• 35:24Speaker 04

  I want to see this now because I love that song and I want to feel emotion about Connor dancing. Can we please?

• 35:29Brooke Averick?

  Izzy, it's in my reposts. It is

• 35:33Speaker 04

  It's at the top of my page.

• 35:34Brooke Averick?

  It's literally, it's so emotional and it's

• 35:36Speaker 04

  You already saw this edit? I'm the only one that hasn't been posted yet?

• 35:38Connor Wood?

  I think, because I remember thinking like, literally, yeah, that's the one where I look like

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Talk about the goatee.

• 35:45Connor Wood?

  It's like, hi, I was behind the 7-Eleven before this.

• 35:47Brooke Averick?

  This is what it's all about. Hey, guys, we want to take a quick break to thank a sponsor of today's episode, Tumble. I feel like one of the most stressful parts of having people over, especially during the holidays, is trying to keep your house clean when everyone is eating, drinking, and walking around. And the last thing you want to be worrying about when you're hosting is someone spilling something on your rug. That's why Tumble rugs are such a game changer. They're actually designed to be spill-proof and machine washable, so you can have a beautiful rug without constantly worrying about ruining it.

• 36:15Connor Wood?

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• 36:36Brooke Averick?

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• 37:05Connor Wood?

  And with the holidays coming up, a Tumble rug would also make such a great gift for someone who just moved into a new place or recently got a pet.

• 37:13Brooke Averick?

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• 37:37Connor Wood?

  Hi, guys. We want to take a quick break to thank a sponsor of today's episode, The RealReal. I feel like there's something so satisfying about finding a really good deal, especially when it's on something designer that you've had your eye on for a while. I just went to The RealReal for the first time. It's like the coolest place ever. They let me try on like watches. And you can shop authenticated luxury pieces from some of the biggest designer brands without having to pay full retail prices. It's kind of like a treasure hunt because you never know what you're gonna find.

• 38:02Brooke Averick?

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• 38:22Connor Wood?

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• 38:35Brooke Averick?

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• 38:59Connor Wood?

  Okay, really quick, we have to thank a sponsor of today's episode, one of my favorites, Fabletics. I wear a lot of Fabletics right now. I'm wearing like, they have great men's stuff. I don't even know what they want me to say, but listen, I wear a lot of Fabletics. The shirts fit really great. The sweatpants are amazing. I have some shorts from them, too. I dance, I dance in them a lot. And the holidays are right around the corner, and it's, it's hard to figure out what to get for everyone. And there's always that one person that's impossible. And that's why I love being able to get a bunch of gifts in one place. And Fabletics has, like I said, so many options. There's essentials, there's workout clothes, there's cozy stuff to wear at home, there's accessories. You can find something for everyone on your list there.

• 39:34Brooke Averick?

  I've always loved Fabletics because their clothes are genuinely so comfortable, but they're also really cute. Their leggings and matching sets are the kind of pieces you can wear to work out, run errands, or just hang out at home in. The quality is so good. Everything feels really soft and supportive, and I love that their pieces are things you can actually get a ton of wear out of. I feel like that's what makes Fabletics such a good gift, too. You're getting someone something they'll actually use instead of another random gift that ends up sitting in their closet.

• 40:02Connor Wood?

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• 40:26Brooke Averick?

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• 40:58Connor Wood?

  Oh, that's really sad to me.

• 41:06Connor Wood?

  Oh, it does make me really sad.

• 41:07Brooke Averick?

  It's like, it's devastating, but also like,

• 41:14Brooke Averick?

  it's, it's devastating. It's devastating, period.

• 41:18Speaker 04

  It's, it's getting you in your feels. It's letting you, I feel like I was you getting my judges' score.

• 41:23Brooke Averick?

  Exactly. It puts you like, I'm so high empath, like, that's really like, you're right there with you in that. And so that is going completely viral.

• 41:33Connor Wood?

  I know.

• 41:33Brooke Averick?

  For a reason, for a reason.

• 41:35Connor Wood?

  Like, I'm genuinely being serious when I'm like, I am disconnected from, right now, like, I'm looking at him, like, oh, it makes me, you know, you see, like, we are putting a lot of work into this, you know, it's, it's kind of devastating and like, soul crushing, you know, it's, it's.

• 41:50Speaker 04

  You were doing everything you can be doing right now and just keep telling yourself that. That's all, that's all that matters.

• 41:55Connor Wood?

  All we do in practice is like, Riley reminds me, remember the judges said, strong arms this week? Remember judges said, like, isolate your, your upper body this? And I'm like, okay, cool. So when I go on to the thing, I'm like, do that, do that. But then it's always like, you know, like, and I'm not complaining. It is good to have feedback. But like, there's no recognition for like, the things that we fixed, you know? But it was what you said. But anyways, onward and upward, upward and onward, or whatever.

• 42:19Brooke Averick?

  Anyway, enough, enough of that.

• 42:21Speaker 04

  Oh, man, we could talk about that all day.

• 42:23Brooke Averick?

  I know, but.

• 42:24Connor Wood?

  Did you just get a cat?

• 42:25Speaker 04

  I did. Not, not willingly, but it's, the cat distribution system, have you heard about this?

• 42:31Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I've heard.

• 42:32Speaker 04

  See, now you need to teach me about it, because I, it's all that people are talking about now.

• 42:36Brooke Averick?

  I have not, my two cat, I have two cats.

• 42:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:39Brooke Averick?

  Before I got my cats, I was like, I don't, I don't like cats. I'll never get a cat. Now I have two cats and they're like the loves of my life.

• 42:46Speaker 04

  I'm down bad right now.

• 42:47Brooke Averick?

  It's.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  To give context of what happened, I was out to dinner with friends. Kelsey, my lovely fiance, was at an event, and she, who doesn't love Kelsey?

• 42:56Connor Wood?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  She got home from an event and got dropped off outside of our place in an Uber, and we were in like, a nice little, I don't know, condominium kind of setup, and there's a gate before you get in. And on the outside, there was a pipe. And if you go look at her Instagram, you will see the video, but it would, it sounded like it was like, there was a pipe outside. Here it is. Look at, doesn't it, listen to this, though.

• 43:23Speaker 04

  It doesn't even sound like a cat.

• 43:26Connor Wood?

  No, it doesn't. It sounds like a frog.

• 43:29Speaker 04

  It sounds like a frog. So you can, you can listen on this, if you listen closely, that video is when she saw the cat for the first time and she freaked out. So of course, she's superwoman and goes and saves this cat, yeets it into a box, and.

• 43:43Connor Wood?

  Oh, I saw her kind of like coming into the box. Look at her lure it out, by the way, Brooke. Look what she's holding to lure it out.

• 43:50Brooke Averick?

  What is she holding?

• 43:50Connor Wood?

  You see, you will see in a second.

• 43:52Speaker 05

  I just want y'all to know that I look like a crazy person right now, so.

• 43:56Connor Wood?

  Like, in the bite.

• 43:58Brooke Averick?

  Is that a chomp?

• 43:59Speaker 04

  Also, the music starts right when the chomp comes out.

• 44:03Speaker 04

  The cutest kitten ever, by the way. Yeah, she eats it.

• 44:07Connor Wood?

  Where's the rest of them?

• 44:11Connor Wood?

  Let's get going to the box, box.

• 44:15Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, like, that's yours.

• 44:16Connor Wood?

  That's a perfect cat.

• 44:18Speaker 04

  She's adorable. We, we took her to the vet, completely healthy, like, five to six weeks. I don't know how, this is her surprising me with it.

• 44:29Connor Wood?

  That's a girl from Louisiana.

• 44:30Brooke Averick?

  I haven't seen this.

• 44:32Connor Wood?

  That is a girl from Louisiana. She said, let me put my rain boots on in my dress and get this cat out the pipe.

• 44:39Speaker 04

  She's.

• 44:40Brooke Averick?

  Oh, she's perfect.

• 44:41Speaker 04

  She's adorable. This is me realizing, as Kelsey's taking a video, this is our child now.

• 44:45Brooke Averick?

  Did you imprint on her right away?

• 44:47Speaker 04

  I mean, look at her.

• 44:48Brooke Averick?

  I look at her.

• 44:48Speaker 04

  And look with the ending video, this was the next day, and Kelsey just like knows.

• 44:53Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, that's, that's your daughter.

• 44:54Speaker 04

  Making, making business calls and having a cat just lay on me. And I'm like, okay, now I'm, I'm, I'm hooked. So yeah, we, obviously, that's the, the story of it. That's how our Saturday changed. My Sunday was just sitting, watching football with my new child, and I'm obsessed with her. We named her, everyone wants us to name her Piper, because she was found in a pipe. So now that's her middle name, though, because I was given one thing. Kelsey said, I can name her if we get the keeper. And I think human names are hysterical for a cat. So I named her Rebecca, and we call her Becky. So her name is Rebecca Piper Grazia, and she is now ours.

• 45:28Brooke Averick?

  That's amazing.

• 45:29Connor Wood?

  Rebecca Piper Grazia.

• 45:30Brooke Averick?

  Maybe we could set her up with my cat, Robert.

• 45:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I would love that.

• 45:33Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, that could be really cute.

• 45:35Speaker 04

  Can we have a kitty playdate?

• 45:36Brooke Averick?

  I think, my cats are really good with other cats.

• 45:38Speaker 04

  Love this.

• 45:39Brooke Averick?

  I bet Rebecca would be too.

• 45:40Speaker 04

  Well, we also need to do this. I'm finding out when you have a kitten, you have to like, there has to be exposure therapy. We have to start getting her comfortable. I'm just trying to keep her alive right now.

• 45:50Brooke Averick?

  Worry about that.

• 45:51Connor Wood?

  How old?

• 45:52Speaker 04

  She's like, five to six weeks. My current fear that I'm trying to process through is the smell of cats. I don't want to be one of those people that get used to the smell and someone walks into our house and be like, oh, an animal lives here. That's my nightmare. So I don't know if you have a way through this. I'm taking all tips I can possibly get. I don't want to have a cat smelling household. I don't know how to do this.

• 46:13Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. So my therapist, I had the exact same worry when I was thinking about getting a pet. And she said something that kind of changed my life. And she was like, Well, if you have a cat, your house might smell like a cat. And like, that's just is what it is.

• 46:28Speaker 04

  So I just have to see the other side.

• 46:29Brooke Averick?

  It might just smell like a cat and it's like, that doesn't mean you're gross. It means you have a cat.

• 46:32Connor Wood?

  Have they not? I don't think it smells like a cat.

• 46:34Brooke Averick?

  But what do you think my apartment smells like?

• 46:36Connor Wood?

  Your apartment doesn't, this apartment doesn't smell.

• 46:39Brooke Averick?

  The last one?

• 46:40Speaker 04

  Last one did.

• 46:41Connor Wood?

  It showed it.

• 46:42Brooke Averick?

  The last one didn't have a cat.

• 46:43Speaker 04

  Very.

• 46:44Brooke Averick?

  Are you talking about my guinea pig?

• 46:45Speaker 04

  Didn't even have a cat.

• 46:46Brooke Averick?

  Talking about my guinea pig? Yeah, that was, I was not, I shouldn't have had a guinea, no, that's fine. I shouldn't have had a guinea.

• 46:53Speaker 04

  You just have an animal.

• 46:54Connor Wood?

  I think, you know, I might not even be thinking about your apartment. There are, there are like people in smaller apartments that like, I don't smell anything in your current apartment. I was asking, because your, your, your house won't smell like a cat. I think it smells like a litter box. But like, I think they make things now, like your litter box is so clean.

• 47:11Brooke Averick?

  Well, you need to get a litter robot.

• 47:13Connor Wood?

  The robot, yeah.

• 47:14Brooke Averick?

  The litter robot is the answer.

• 47:15Connor Wood?

  Cat's house doesn't smell like cats.

• 47:17Brooke Averick?

  And I also think that people, it just depends on if you clean the litter box or not.

• 47:21Speaker 04

  I mean, we are very, uh, clean people. We want our house to smell clean. So I'm just, I'm very, I'm worried. It's new. Uh, and I haven't really thought about that when I was, because she wanted a cat for a while. So I did think initially she might've put the cat in, in the pipe, but now I've, I've gotten past that theory because who would do that? But that was scary at first. She brought up the fact that she wanted a cat like a month before and now she just finds cats in pipes. This is crazy.

• 47:43Connor Wood?

  That is crazy.

• 47:45Speaker 04

  But yeah.

• 47:46Connor Wood?

  How did it get in that pipe?

• 47:46Speaker 04

  I don't know. We looked, it was raining that night and there's like a little drainage on the, on the curb. So I think it just kind of, but it's, it's six weeks and it's completely healthy. Like, how?

• 47:56Brooke Averick?

  I don't get it. Because there's so many things online, especially like on my free page that are like, if you do this, your cat will die. And it's like, if you give your cat like a bite of this, a bite of this, I'm just like, how are so many cats surviving in the wild? If you're telling me that every single thing I do in my home is going to kill my cat.

• 48:12Speaker 04

  I feel like that's also the WebMD for the world.

• 48:14Brooke Averick?

  They're a lot more resilient, exactly.

• 48:15Speaker 04

  Like, everyone thinks we're gonna die. But yeah, Kelsey wanted to put T-3-Rol on her, found out doesn't have the ability to process those enzymes, could've killed her. I'm like, hey, like, this is scary.

• 48:24Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 48:25Brooke Averick?

  Everything online is really scary and of course, like, do your research and everything, but I do think it is.

• 48:30Speaker 04

  They're resilient.

• 48:31Brooke Averick?

  Everything's, yeah, they're resilient and most things are just like, trying to scare you, but it's also, you know, good to be a little bit scared, of course. But.

• 48:39Speaker 04

  We have a baby now. Very excited about it.

• 48:41Brooke Averick?

  That's amazing. I think we've been poisoned as a society against cats. Because, did you think for one second that like that cat was gonna be as cuddly as she?

• 48:48Speaker 04

  No.

• 48:48Brooke Averick?

  You don't think cats are like that?

• 48:49Speaker 04

  I also grew up with cats and I lived in like a farmhouse and we had outdoor cats and it was very, I think that was why I had a negative perception was the cats we had were probably fending for themselves outside all the time. And when they were inside, they were sitting under a chair waiting for me to come by to attack my ankles. And I'm like, I hate this.

• 49:07Brooke Averick?

  Right.

• 49:08Speaker 04

  So that changed me. Now that I have a indoor cat that is adorable and cuddly, I, I can't wait to get the home to see her again.

• 49:16Brooke Averick?

  Completely.

• 49:16Speaker 04

  So I'm, I'm down bad.

• 49:18Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Oh, I love cats. I'm so glad that we have another person on the cat.

• 49:22Speaker 04

  Hey, I'm, I'll start the, I'll start the, the movement if you need to.

• 49:26Brooke Averick?

  Dave Franco is doing a really good job. Have you seen anything that he said about cats?

• 49:30Speaker 04

  No, but I'm expecting my algorithm's about to change fully.

• 49:32Brooke Averick?

  It is about, you're about to start seeing a lot, Dave Franco is advocating for the cat community and just kind of reframing the narrative of cats usually being shown as the villains in media and he's completely flipping that on its head. He's doing great work and you know, now you are.

• 49:48Speaker 04

  I'm a cat advocate now. This is great.

• 49:49Brooke Averick?

  We're so appreciative of, of you and your daughter and, you know, Kelsey and, and welcome, welcome to the community.

• 49:56Speaker 04

  I'm really happy to be here.

• 49:57Brooke Averick?

  We're happy to have you.

• 49:58Connor Wood?

  Was my dad telling you a story about our cat last night falling into a, a pipe?

• 50:01Speaker 04

  He had a whole story about a buddy of his that had, uh, had to rescue a cat and it's pretty much, it had no leg, uh, no eye. A lot of things were wrong with it and he pretty much told me if I didn't keep the cat, I would be an asshole. Because when you, a cat is given to you. So your dad pretty much called me out and he was, uh, laughing at the fact that his friend called the cat Lucky because it had all those things wrong.

• 50:22Brooke Averick?

  Oh, that's cute.

• 50:23Speaker 04

  It was, it was pretty cute.

• 50:24Connor Wood?

  Yeah, because I'm, I'm listening to Dylan. Dylan's talking to me there, but I'm hearing my dad be like, yep, one eye, one leg. And I'm like, oh, Joey, I'm sorry. And I like, couldn't look away from Dylan because Dylan's like trying to give me advice.

• 50:34Brooke Averick?

  Dylan's you in full strategy.

• 50:35Connor Wood?

  Well, I thought, when he was talking about one leg, one eye, it reminded, I was like, I hope he's not telling you this story because it came to me last night. There was one time we were coming back, I was, I was in our, like, outside of our little town in, in Texas. And we're coming back and we're leaving church and I think my parents were feeling like Good Samaritan vibe. And they're like, let's pick those people up. They're on the side of the road. And they were in all black and they got in and they smelled.

• 51:02Connor Wood?

  Hmm.

• 51:03Brooke Averick?

  Like my old apartment?

• 51:08Connor Wood?

  No, like.

• 51:11Connor Wood?

  It's sharp. It was like sharp cheddar, but it was like foul. It was making everyone, we couldn't talk.

• 51:17Brooke Averick?

  Cute.

• 51:17Connor Wood?

  It was like, you couldn't breathe out of your nose because of the smell, but you couldn't breathe in your mouth because you could taste them. Um, and then they pretty quickly let us know that they were witches. And they, yeah, they had, we had 20 minutes in the car and it was not, it was not a, a three row type of car. It was more of just two rows. So I was in the middle.

• 51:36Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 51:37Connor Wood?

  And there was one witch on one side and a witch on the other side of me.

• 51:40Brooke Averick?

  I've always wanted to meet a witch.

• 51:42Connor Wood?

  Oh, they were Wiccans. I'm sorry, not witches.

• 51:44Brooke Averick?

  What's the difference?

• 51:45Connor Wood?

  Um, Izzy, can we look up the, the Google version of witches versus Wiccans? I don't want to speak to any community.

• 51:52Brooke Averick?

  It is a very good question.

• 51:53Speaker 04

  It's good to know.

• 51:54Connor Wood?

  They're very different, I guess.

• 51:57Connor Wood?

  Wiccan is a modern earth-based religion while witchcraft is practical craft of energy and spells. While Wiccans may practice witchcraft and consider themselves witches, not, okay, another square versus rectangle situation.

• 52:08Speaker 04

  I like this last line. Not all witches are Wiccans. That's a, that, that sounds like a bumper sticker.

• 52:13Brooke Averick?

  But all Wiccans are witches?

• 52:16Speaker 04

  I think so. If you practice witchcraft, you're a witch. But you can be a Wiccan. I don't, I don't get this.

• 52:24Connor Wood?

  Can we look up, do Wiccans need to smell?

• 52:26Brooke Averick?

  And, no. Do Wiccans?

• 52:28Speaker 04

  Do Wiccans smell of sharp cheddar?

• 52:30Connor Wood?

  What do Wiccans smell like?

• 52:31Brooke Averick?

  Do they do magic? That's my question.

• 52:34Speaker 04

  This would be cra-.

• 52:35Connor Wood?

  No, Wiccans do not smell like cheddar. Wiccans are people who practice a modern, okay. Well, I, I am gonna get in trouble for that and like, they do cast spells, so.

• 52:43Speaker 04

  And they smell like any other human being depending on the soap. If there's a group I do not want coming after me, it's the Wiccans. You should clear this up now.

• 52:51Connor Wood?

  Sorry to the Wiccans. I am sorry.

• 52:53Speaker 04

  That's a, that's a bad group to have come after you. How did we get here again?

• 52:56Connor Wood?

  So I was gonna say.

• 52:57Brooke Averick?

  Such a solid question.

• 52:59Connor Wood?

  So we adopted our cat from a barn and it was an outdoor cat and it did not want to be inside. So we had an outdoor cat and it fell into a hole. And to get it out of the hole, and it was a, it was a deep, deep hole, we had to put like, a plank of a long two by four down and it crawled up the wood. And it's, it's amazing that cats can just like, it crawls out and just leaves. No, thank you, just out. And it would catch fish out of the lake and it would kill snakes because there was a lot of snakes in Texas where we're from. And the other day, I'm walking through Santa Monica and I hear a rustling in a trash can. And it's in an area of Santa Monica in the Palisades Park, right up where the cliff is. And I was on a walk and it was a kind of sunset and I'm like, there's a lot of ground squirrels there and they're very friendly, these ground squirrels.

• 53:41Connor Wood?

  They will eat out of your hand and stuff. And I'm like, oh my gosh, there's a ground squirrel in the trash can. I need to help it. So I go and I look in the trash can like this and it's two rats. And they're in a deep trash can and I'm like.

• 53:58Connor Wood?

  And they're trying to get out.

• 54:00Brooke Averick?

  I like rats.

• 54:01Connor Wood?

  I do too. And like, you're not, you're not gonna be, you're not gonna.

• 54:04Brooke Averick?

  It's the tail that's the problem. The tail is definitely the problem.

• 54:07Speaker 04

  What movie was it where they, uh, lit the bucket on fire on someone and the at, the rat ate through them? Was that Fast and Furious?

• 54:14Brooke Averick?

  Oh my God, I haven't seen that.

• 54:14Speaker 04

  That is why I don't like rats.

• 54:16Brooke Averick?

  That would be hard to see.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, they like, they like made it eat through the person and now I'm out on rats.

• 54:21Brooke Averick?

  Well, I haven't seen that, so I like rats.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  Okay, that's fair.

• 54:23Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 54:23Speaker 04

  I have reasons.

• 54:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, you've, you've completely found a reason.

• 54:26Connor Wood?

  So I do, you know, I have that thing.

• 54:28Brooke Averick?

  I just feel bad for them because it's like, what makes them different than like a squirrel?

• 54:31Connor Wood?

  Or, or a messy big rat.

• 54:32Speaker 04

  Their tail and their teeth and the fact that they eat garbage.

• 54:35Brooke Averick?

  Few of those, squirrels eat garbage, right?

• 54:37Speaker 04

  I don't know. I feel like they eat nuts.

• 54:39Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. I bet a rat would like a nut if we gave it to him.

• 54:42Speaker 04

  Maybe it just got the wrong territory.

• 54:44Brooke Averick?

  I just think they're kind of, I bet like in a few years, we're gonna have the experience with rats that people are having cats.

• 54:49Connor Wood?

  I think that you guys are being a little classist towards rodents.

• 54:52Speaker 04

  I, I'm not a rodent guy.

• 54:54Connor Wood?

  Oh, you are advocating.

• 54:55Speaker 04

  You're advocating. She wants to be, she wants to start the campaign like cats. I'm gonna be on the other side. I don't think I'm joining this group. I wish you the best of luck, but we need to know what Connor did with these rats.

• 55:04Connor Wood?

  I'm just, I, I, I, I think.

• 55:05Brooke Averick?

  Good, good to circle back to that, yeah.

• 55:07Connor Wood?

  So all of a sudden, suddenly and all at once, I'm flooded with the memory of the cat in the hole. Not to be confused with the cat in the hat. The cat in the hole. And I'm like, okay, I need to find a, a, a tool for them to use. Miska Muska, Mickey Mouse. I need to make them a ramp or something to get out. And I walk, grace of God, I find a bunch of cardboard, kind of just on top of another trash can. So I roll it up, kind of like a, like this, this long. And I walk up to the trash can to put it in. And at that moment, I start to slide in, the rats jump out and at me, both of them. They were not trapped at all. They were completely hustling me.

• 55:45Brooke Averick?

  That's their home base.

• 55:46Speaker 04

  They were probably waiting for you.

• 55:47Connor Wood?

  They were totally fine.

• 55:49Brooke Averick?

  They were, they're fine in the trap.

• 55:50Connor Wood?

  F M L.

• 55:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:51Connor Wood?

  They almost got my leg.

• 55:53Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 55:53Connor Wood?

  I was like, oh my God, I have a video of it. I'll show it to you after.

• 55:56Speaker 04

  Please, please show me, cause I'm, that's one of my biggest fears is rats. I'm not a fan of rats and raccoons. I don't mess with either of them.

• 56:03Brooke Averick?

  Raccoons do scare me a little bit.

• 56:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, I can't do raccoons.

• 56:05Brooke Averick?

  They kind of are like monsters.

• 56:08Speaker 04

  They are.

• 56:08Brooke Averick?

  A little bit, like they look like if, they're the closest animal to.

• 56:12Speaker 04

  Don't they have thumbs?

• 56:12Brooke Averick?

  I think, yeah.

• 56:14Speaker 04

  Not a fan.

• 56:14Brooke Averick?

  I think, or I don't know.

• 56:15Speaker 04

  I think they have thumbs.

• 56:16Brooke Averick?

  Probably. I don't know. They do scare me a little bit, raccoons, but I bet if I knew one as a baby.

• 56:22Connor Wood?

  You were about to say met one?

• 56:24Brooke Averick?

  And I met one as a baby and it grew up with me, I bet I could love it.

• 56:27Connor Wood?

  A domesticated.

• 56:28Brooke Averick?

  If I, I think, if I, I think anything, if I domesticated it, I would, could fall in love with it.

• 56:34Speaker 04

  See, the whole issue with raccoons comes back to cats with me. We had outdoor cats. I'm taking out the trash at night. I feel something brush up against my leg. I go down to pet it and it was like that scene in Elf where the raccoon gets up on all fours and hisses at you.

• 56:49Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 56:50Speaker 04

  Thought it was my cat, was a raccoon. Hate raccoons.

• 56:52Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, I got, I, that one I understand.

• 56:53Connor Wood?

  Did it get you?

• 56:53Speaker 04

  No, I ran like a little girl. I was out.

• 56:55Connor Wood?

  They can give you rabies. Yeah, that's scary.

• 56:57Brooke Averick?

  But rats are just so small. It's like they can't hurt you.

• 57:00Connor Wood?

  They're quick on their feet.

• 57:01Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 57:02Connor Wood?

  Um, oh, I had that happen, except with the possum.

• 57:04Brooke Averick?

  I have questions for Joey.

• 57:05Speaker 04

  Oh, don't mess with them. That's on the rodent.

• 57:07Connor Wood?

  No, they're actually docile. They don't carry rabies.

• 57:09Speaker 04

  I think we're domesticating too many things.

• 57:13Brooke Averick?

  I have questions for you.

• 57:14Connor Wood?

  Yeah, we should, we don't have to do rodents.

• 57:16Speaker 04

  We don't have to do too many rodents.

• 57:17Brooke Averick?

  No, no, no. Oh, good. I love tandons, but like while you're, while you're here.

• 57:22Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 57:24Brooke Averick?

  You, you just finished filming Traitors.

• 57:26Connor Wood?

  Oh yeah, sorry.

• 57:27Brooke Averick?

  Like what, what can we even say?

• 57:30Speaker 04

  I mean, honestly, right now, I just, you need to tune in. It was so much fun, uh, so hard, so different than what I thought it would be. You know, it's like one of those shows when you watch and you like, are like, oh yeah, those, how are they not figuring this out? This and that.

• 57:44Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 57:44Speaker 04

  Just watched. It's, it's, it's so hard. And now I have such a newfound respect for it, but I loved the cast. Everyone was amazing. It was a ton of fun and I think everyone should tune in. It's so good.

• 57:55Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I'm sad. I'm ready for good TV.

• 57:57Speaker 04

  It's good, good TV and I can't wait to watch. Like it's one of those things I can't wait to see it again, cause I want to relive it.

• 58:03Brooke Averick?

  I was gonna say, it must be hard. Like you have lived this experience and it's filmed and it's such a big part of your life and now you just have to wait for it to come out.

• 58:11Speaker 04

  Yeah. Uh, this is my third time dealing with that. So I'm, do it now. I did Bachelorette, Bachelor and Traitors, the delayed taping. It's a nice part about dancing is you get to feel it immediately.

• 58:20Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 58:20Speaker 04

  Uh, delayed tapings are tough, but a third time's a charm.

• 58:23Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 58:24Brooke Averick?

  It's a charm.

• 58:25Connor Wood?

  Do you get worried about like what edit you're gonna get?

• 58:27Speaker 04

  Always. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's like, the, pretty much the way to think about it when you do a delayed taping show like that is everything you do is a drop in the bucket of all the footage.

• 58:37Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 58:37Speaker 04

  So you just have to wait to see what's actually being shown and you could have memories of certain parts, but then it's like, how does it look? Because it could be from anyone's eyes and that's the, the tough part, but I also love it because you get to re-experience it and get to see it from the eyes that they decide to show. And I think that's also one of the most fun parts of it.

• 58:55Connor Wood?

  Are you, you're in Scotland?

• 58:58Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:59Connor Wood?

  Are you guys straight up filming every single day?

• 59:02Speaker 04

  It's, there's, there's pretty much, the whole time you're there, you're there for the show. So yeah, it's a lot. It's fun. You would be great on it. Both you guys would. I think you both need to do that show.

• 59:12Brooke Averick?

  I would, I would, that was, that's I think the only show that I would.

• 59:15Speaker 04

  You guys just stop for a second and look shit ahead like, yeah, you're right. I think I would be great on that show.

• 59:20Brooke Averick?

  I'm scared to even say, cause it's kind of like the more I talk about Raya, the more they won't let me on.

• 59:25Speaker 04

  Uh, are we having Raya issues?

• 59:27Brooke Averick?

  Oh, I can't get on.

• 59:28Speaker 04

  Well, how do we fix that?

• 59:29Brooke Averick?

  I don't know. I have 68 referrals. They, they hate my ass.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  68?

• 59:33Connor Wood?

  69th the charm.

• 59:34Brooke Averick?

  I keep talking, exactly. I keep talking about it. And so that's why I'm scared to say I want to be on Traitors, cause it feels like a Raya situation.

• 59:42Speaker 04

  I mean, it could be, but it could also be manifesting. Let's just, let's just put it out there.

• 59:45Brooke Averick?

  It works the line, you know?

• 59:47Speaker 04

  Yeah. We'll never know, honestly.

• 59:48Brooke Averick?

  We won't know.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  When it happens, it's manifesting. When it doesn't, you look crazy. It's just part of it.

• 59:52Brooke Averick?

  Exactly. Exactly. So.

• 59:54Connor Wood?

  Shit feels a little traitor-y, doesn't it?

• 59:55Speaker 04

  It does actually. It, it does. I'm having a little PTSD right now. It's nice.

• 1:00:00Brooke Averick?

  Like you, you know, you can't have your phone.

• 1:00:02Connor Wood?

  Yeah, I knew that. That's what I want to talk about. Yeah.

• 1:00:05Speaker 04

  That's not a bad thing. I, it's the same thing whenever you do a show like that, whenever you're on a, an all-inclusive kind of show where you're just in it, they usually take away your phone. And I think that's a, I think that's a healthy thing.

• 1:00:15Brooke Averick?

  That would be good for us.

• 1:00:16Speaker 04

  I think it's a really good thing. You don't realize, this is an example right now, because you guys do it when you're on the podcast. Your conversation is so much better when you take out the ability to like leave it. And when you're interacting with a group, what ends up happening a lot of times is when you don't feel like you're invited into a conversation, what's the first thing you do?

• 1:00:36Brooke Averick?

  Phone.

• 1:00:37Speaker 04

  You grab your phone and you start scrolling because a, a, weather rap is crazy, but yes, that works. When you don't have that, you have the ability, if you don't have that, you have the ability to then like insert yourself into a conversation. And because of that, you end up getting to know people better.

• 1:00:52Connor Wood?

  What are you guys talking about?

• 1:00:52Speaker 04

  Hey, hey, I'm, I'm alone over here. Talk to me. But that is the truth. It really, I think it's better. I, I think we should get rid of our phones more often.

• 1:00:59Connor Wood?

  Do you think it, it like rewired something or like reconnected neurons that have been disconnected because of?

• 1:01:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think it, you feel, you just feel more open to having deeper conversations and you feel more aware and alert than you usually do.

• 1:01:13Connor Wood?

  Cause you, you, this is. Oh my gosh. When you got out, were you like first thing like, like water, like phone?

• 1:01:19Speaker 04

  I took a second because I knew it was going to be a lot. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't grab it, cause I knew I was gonna.

• 1:01:23Connor Wood?

  Kelsey was running the socials.

• 1:01:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. I also had to grab it because I did, I did find out, uh, through someone that she was having a lot of fun with my socials.

• 1:01:31Brooke Averick?

  She really was. She's so funny.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  Listen, I'm never going to get my socials back again, by the way. She still has access and I think we're gonna have to play a game moving forward. Like was this post from Joey or was this post from Kelsey? And I think that's a fun game to play.

• 1:01:44Brooke Averick?

  I think she started something. Like I bet a lot of people are gonna start doing that because of her.

• 1:01:48Connor Wood?

  It kind of actually feel like, I wouldn't know if someone was hacking Kelsey's account.

• 1:01:52Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:01:53Connor Wood?

  Cause she's like doing laundry. I'm like, that is awesome.

• 1:01:56Speaker 04

  It is awesome. She's bringing it back to how it should be. The old Facebook days, you know?

• 1:02:00Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:00Speaker 04

  No, she should run my socials. She's more funny than I am. I am all game for it. Um, but yes, the fact that she could right now just be swiping through my Instagram and responding to things. If anyone out there gets a random DM, probably wasn't me. So just know that.

• 1:02:15Brooke Averick?

  So good.

• 1:02:15Speaker 04

  But it also gives me a little freedom that they don't know if it's me. So I can be a little more edgy than I want to be.

• 1:02:20Connor Wood?

  Totally.

• 1:02:20Speaker 04

  This is great.

• 1:02:21Brooke Averick?

  Blame it on Kelsey.

• 1:02:22Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:02:23Brooke Averick?

  Yeah. Is there anything like you wouldn't do? Like you've done dancing, The Bachelor, Traitors, now, and now you're full on actor in a.

• 1:02:34Connor Wood?

  Oh my God.

• 1:02:35Brooke Averick?

  Full-length film.

• 1:02:36Connor Wood?

  Yes.

• 1:02:36Speaker 04

  I did a movie. It was very fun.

• 1:02:38Brooke Averick?

  You did a movie?

• 1:02:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:39Brooke Averick?

  I watched it last night.

• 1:02:40Speaker 04

  Did you?

• 1:02:41Brooke Averick?

  So good and cozy.

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  I would love to know your thoughts. I'm actually deathly afraid of people that have watched it, cause I, I want to know how you view me now after it.

• 1:02:48Connor Wood?

  Did you watch it?

• 1:02:49Speaker 04

  I did. I got to see it.

• 1:02:50Brooke Averick?

  Joey, I'm like a rom-com.

• 1:02:52Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:53Brooke Averick?

  Like fanatic and I thought it was just like the perfect cozy feel-good.

• 1:02:57Speaker 04

  Love that.

• 1:02:58Brooke Averick?

  Rom-com that like.

• 1:02:59Speaker 04

  Did you believe me as an actor?

• 1:03:00Brooke Averick?

  I believed the shit out of you.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:03:02Brooke Averick?

  Yes. Speaking of bleeding man, seriously, it was so good.

• 1:03:07Speaker 04

  Thank you. I appreciate it. It was way more fun than I thought it was going to be. When it came like my way and I got the opportunity, I was scared because I think that, that transfer from reality to like scripted is a little daunting. Um, but it was fun playing like a rom-com situation, cause I'm a huge rom-com fan myself. Like that's my number one movie I will watch all the time. And I always wanted to be in that role where you get to like have a love interest, but also throw some humor in and just, the holiday movies are just feel-good. So.

• 1:03:38Connor Wood?

  What's your favorite?

• 1:03:39Speaker 04

  Rom-com?

• 1:03:40Connor Wood?

  We do this all the, well, do, do rom-com, quintessential rom-com.

• 1:03:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:46Connor Wood?

  Holiday rom-com.

• 1:03:47Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:48Connor Wood?

  The best. Do those two.

• 1:03:50Speaker 04

  Right?

• 1:03:51Brooke Averick?

  What is, holiday rom-com and quintessential?

• 1:03:53Connor Wood?

  Number one rom-com. It could be holiday.

• 1:03:55Speaker 04

  My number one rom-com might be cliche, but I just, I've watched it again recently and it always holds up. How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days is just.

• 1:04:01Connor Wood?

  I watched it last week.

• 1:04:02Brooke Averick?

  That's a great one.

• 1:04:03Speaker 04

  Holds.

• 1:04:04Connor Wood?

  Yep.

• 1:04:05Speaker 04

  And I don't know, something about Matthew McConaughey in a rom-com just does it for me and I love Kate Hudson. I, I think it's incredible.

• 1:04:11Connor Wood?

  The two of them in their prime, and I think they're still in their prime, but in their prime.

• 1:04:16Connor Wood?

  It makes me horny.

• 1:04:16Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, we know.

• 1:04:17Speaker 04

  Bear?

• 1:04:18Brooke Averick?

  We don't know.

• 1:04:19Speaker 04

  I mean, you are, you are an Austin boy, so it just, it makes sense, you know? It's, yeah, hook 'em.

• 1:04:25Connor Wood?

  There's another way to say it, like, I could have said it in so many words, but that is-

• 1:04:27Speaker 04

  No, but that's the right way. It got to the point.

• 1:04:29Connor Wood?

  There's tension.

• 1:04:30Speaker 04

  It got to the point, yeah. No, it's great. I mean, fool's gold, there's a ton they do. It's, there's a reason they did it again.

• 1:04:35Connor Wood?

  She said, she said, that, it's, that comes up a lot. She said that was her worst kiss she's ever had, and she was gagging in the water, because they did do it like six times.

• 1:04:44Speaker 04

  No way.

• 1:04:45Connor Wood?

  And that upsets me. It's a testament to their skills and range, but like-

• 1:04:50Speaker 04

  Why does it upset you? Because you wish you were-

• 1:04:52Connor Wood?

  You know, I, I'm, I'm a baby. I want them all to be married, after I see the movie. It doesn't make sense to me that Matthew McConaughey and Kate Hudson are not married and that age still.

• 1:05:03Speaker 04

  I get it.

• 1:05:03Connor Wood?

  I digress.

• 1:05:04Speaker 04

  Uh, Holiday, um, I, I love the Holiday. I think that's, that's, that's my-

• 1:05:09Connor Wood?

  That was a layup.

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know it was. It's just, how do you not pick that one? But there's, I, I just, I don't think there's a lot of times bad rom-coms. It's only when you just can't find a way through watching it where it's just like, okay, I'm, I'm over it, but I just think it's a great genre. I just, I love it.

• 1:05:25Connor Wood?

  We missed the mark for a couple of recent years. We missed the mark-

• 1:05:28Speaker 04

  We have not had a good rom-com in a while.

• 1:05:29Connor Wood?

  What was the bullshit one that came out with, with Sydney Sweeney?

• 1:05:34Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, I know exactly where you're going.

• 1:05:36Connor Wood?

  That one made me want to hit my, I'd rather hit my head hard against this door-

• 1:05:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:41Connor Wood?

  Than watch that again.

• 1:05:42Speaker 04

  It was tough. The only part that I did enjoy was the unwritten song. That was, that was good. I mean, the Serenity song was funny.

• 1:05:47Brooke Averick?

  Unwritten and, yeah, yeah, that's true.

• 1:05:48Speaker 04

  It brought, it gave unwritten a little bit of a wave back, which I think we all need. Number one karaoke song, by the way. I will rip unwritten anytime I get the chance.

• 1:05:56Brooke Averick?

  That's a really good one.

• 1:05:57Connor Wood?

  I have a new, I have a new karaoke song.

• 1:05:59Speaker 04

  What is it?

• 1:06:00Connor Wood?

  Big girls don't cry.

• 1:06:01Speaker 04

  Big girls?

• 1:06:02Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:02Brooke Averick?

  That feels like high for-

• 1:06:03Connor Wood?

  I was like, wait.

• 1:06:05Brooke Averick?

  That feels like a higher one.

• 1:06:06Connor Wood?

  Okay.

• 1:06:07Brooke Averick?

  Big, it's in-

• 1:06:08Connor Wood?

  Bigger girls don't cry.

• 1:06:09Brooke Averick?

  Bigger, the bigger the girl, the less you cry.

• 1:06:10Speaker 04

  Yeah. That's how it could be.

• 1:06:13Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:13Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 1:06:14Brooke Averick?

  I need to say one more thing about Joey's performance.

• 1:06:16Speaker 04

  Please, please, I need to hear all of it.

• 1:06:18Brooke Averick?

  I think that so many men kind of like look, look, almost like look down on, on rom-coms and don't want to take on a rom-com role. And I could just like really feel the opposite of that from you and just like that you like fully immersed yourself in the rom-com of it all. And I feel like you could feel your love of the genre.

• 1:06:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:38Brooke Averick?

  Like through the screen. Why are you laughing? Can I ask why you're laughing?

• 1:06:44Speaker 04

  I need to know.

• 1:06:44Connor Wood?

  I'm trying, I'm trying to like be like, yeah, you're really-

• 1:06:47Brooke Averick?

  I'm being serious.

• 1:06:49Connor Wood?

  So just go ahead, I know.

• 1:06:50Brooke Averick?

  I'm being serious.

• 1:06:51Connor Wood?

  No, just, I'm thinking like, the bigger the girl, the less you cry.

• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  Sorry.

• 1:06:54Brooke Averick?

  That, that is true. That is true. And also Joey's performance was incredible, and I could feel your love of the genre.

• 1:07:03Connor Wood?

  Talk about range, too.

• 1:07:04Speaker 04

  No, it was fun.

• 1:07:05Brooke Averick?

  It's what I'm saying. And I feel like we really, we really needed that. Like, where we've been losing our trust in, in men in the space.

• 1:07:14Speaker 04

  I appreciate you saying that.

• 1:07:15Brooke Averick?

  And you have really brought, brought that back.

• 1:07:16Speaker 04

  It was fun, and I do think doing the rom-com genre helped me because I was like, I could, I could act the shit out of this. Like, this is, this is what I love.

• 1:07:25Connor Wood?

  I am the guy.

• 1:07:25Brooke Averick?

  You are a real-life rom-com.

• 1:07:26Speaker 04

  I, I, I mean, there was moments where I had flashbacks to The Bachelor on that. We were in a dinner, uh, dinner scene on that, and I'm like, this is, I'm on a one-on-one right now.

• 1:07:35Connor Wood?

  Method acting.

• 1:07:35Speaker 04

  I'm in it. But it was, it was really fun. Jamie was incredible. Um, definitely, if, if, if you guys want to watch it, you should. Comes out November 2nd. Um, I'm very excited about it because it was something so different and something I really enjoyed.

• 1:07:48Brooke Averick?

  And where can you?

• 1:07:50Speaker 04

  On the Roku channel, so it's, it's free, free streaming. No excuse not to.

• 1:07:54Connor Wood?

  Yeah, and everybody has uh, an open space in their docket for a feel-good rom-com.

• 1:08:01Speaker 04

  Holiday time, you know?

• 1:08:02Connor Wood?

  Holiday time.

• 1:08:03Speaker 04

  Get a nice, get a nice blanket, get something warm to drink, and watch me try to act.

• 1:08:08Connor Wood?

  God, that's-

• 1:08:09Brooke Averick?

  It was really good.

• 1:08:10Speaker 04

  Thank you. It really does mean a lot that you said that because it, it is nerve-wracking to like step into that for the first time. And so far, um, I, I don't know if it's because people just want to be kind to me, but I've, I've heard good stuff, so I'm excited.

• 1:08:21Brooke Averick?

  You should be very proud.

• 1:08:22Connor Wood?

  Proud of you.

• 1:08:22Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:08:22Brooke Averick?

  But that brings you back to my question. Is there anything you would not do?

• 1:08:25Connor Wood?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:25Speaker 04

  I don't know. I mean, I said after doing Dancing with the Stars, it's like, how much more reality can one person do? Because I've did, I did a lot of it, and I've, I've actually left it very happy. I've, I had great experiences. I left with an amazing fiance that I can't wait to marry next year. I, I got a mirror ball, which how the hell did that happen? That is crazy.

• 1:08:47Connor Wood?

  That's-

• 1:08:47Speaker 04

  So even doing Traders was scary for me because I'm like, I don't really, I, I don't know if I could do any better. Like, I've, I've, I've met the peak of what I want to do. The only one left, I think, in the reality space that I do have interest in is Survivor just seems like a trip.

• 1:09:02Connor Wood?

  Summer House.

• 1:09:02Brooke Averick?

  Oh.

• 1:09:05Speaker 04

  Maybe. Uh, I don't know. I, I, there's not, I'm open. I think if you can tell from all these experiences, like, I'm a yes man. If something comes my way and I can see some value in doing it, where I'm gonna gain something from it, and I feel like it's gonna make sense in the world I'm living right now, I'm always open. Uh, but yeah, Survivor's the only other show that I've watched, being like, I'm just like, I want to know what it's like.

• 1:09:27Brooke Averick?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:28Speaker 04

  Because now I'm, I'm kind of like a geek with these reality shows that you hear about it, you're going through it with Dancing with the Stars, and now we are connected on a different level because we both experienced it.

• 1:09:37Connor Wood?

  It's kind of like when you golf for someone.

• 1:09:38Speaker 04

  Exactly, just same thing. This is where you were trying to go with it. This makes sense. You do love a callback, and I love that about you. But yeah, I, I want to experience it. I want to know what it's like, maybe, but I don't know if I could do it.

• 1:09:48Connor Wood?

  That sounds like genuine hell on earth to me.

• 1:09:51Speaker 04

  Listen, one of the shows I know you would be terrible on, Survivor is one of them. And I, and it's, it's a compliment to you-

• 1:09:56Connor Wood?

  You know what?

• 1:09:57Speaker 04

  You know who you are.

• 1:09:58Connor Wood?

  That's us getting to know each other, and I appreciate you seeing me.

• 1:10:00Speaker 04

  No, it's, there's, there's no, there's no doubt you would struggle.

• 1:10:03Brooke Averick?

  You know you can't brush your teeth?

• 1:10:04Speaker 04

  I, this is what I was literally about to say. As soon as he finds out he can't brush his teeth, he's out.

• 1:10:09Brooke Averick?

  That's, that's bad.

• 1:10:15Connor Wood?

  I have a flosser in my pocket.

• 1:10:17Speaker 04

  No, there's no way.

• 1:10:19Connor Wood?

  I don't know. Pass.

• 1:10:21Speaker 04

  I did hear, if you want to know, if you want to know something inside information-

• 1:10:25Brooke Averick?

  I do.

• 1:10:25Speaker 04

  About the, uh, Survivor, it is interesting because it's about people in general. Once you stop using soap, I was told that there is actually the scent and like your smell goes away.

• 1:10:36Brooke Averick?

  There's not a world-

• 1:10:37Speaker 04

  A lot, a lot of what happens is you have to like, the first week apparently is health because everyone's getting rid of all of their toxins. But when you stop for a bit, I'm not saying you shouldn't stop showering. I'm just saying on that show, I've heard from people that the smell either, maybe it's the cat situation, though. Maybe you get used to the smell.

• 1:10:52Brooke Averick?

  You might just get used to it.

• 1:10:54Speaker 04

  Maybe they're lying to me, but they say after a week it goes away. It's either you get used to the smell, or your toxin, something happens.

• 1:10:59Connor Wood?

  I have so much aluminum in my body from my DRN.

• 1:11:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:02Brooke Averick?

  It's over. It'll take a while to detox.

• 1:11:04Connor Wood?

  It is over.

• 1:11:04Speaker 04

  You're talking to sweaty pits, boy. I had to get Botox in these arms.

• 1:11:07Connor Wood?

  Did you see me after my one-minute dance, by the way? Like, it looked like I jumped in a pool.

• 1:11:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:12Connor Wood?

  I, I, first week on-

• 1:11:13Brooke Averick?

  Hey, you're working hard.

• 1:11:14Connor Wood?

  First day on Survivor, like four hours in, I'm drinking my pee. I'm like, I don't know, I need it.

• 1:11:18Speaker 04

  Trying.

• 1:11:19Connor Wood?

  I don't think I could do it. And I also don't want to, you don't want to, you don't want to, especially, I am on Survivor right now.

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  You are?

• 1:11:26Brooke Averick?

  In a way.

• 1:11:27Speaker 04

  You're in it.

• 1:11:27Connor Wood?

  But you would do really well. I mean, there's nothing that, I don't, I don't see you not excelling at any show.

• 1:11:33Speaker 04

  I just think it would be fun to do the challenges. I think the idea of like trying to get immunity, that, that gets me, that gets me all jazzed up.

• 1:11:39Brooke Averick?

  I've never actually seen Survivor. So is it kind of like the Hunger Games where like you could get like a toothbrush if you do a good job?

• 1:11:46Speaker 04

  You know, it, close. Not a toothbrush, you get, uh, food.

• 1:11:49Brooke Averick?

  Oh.

• 1:11:50Speaker 04

  They give you-

• 1:11:50Brooke Averick?

  They don't give you food?

• 1:11:51Speaker 04

  No. They give you rice if you do well.

• 1:11:54Brooke Averick?

  What do you have, you have to like fi- find your food in the ocean?

• 1:11:57Speaker 04

  They, they wait to give you like flint and rice and the ability to survive. You have to make your own, uh, it's, it's-

• 1:12:04Brooke Averick?

  I'm not gonna go on that show.

• 1:12:04Speaker 04

  No, no, again, love you both. Not, maybe actually that's what we should do, is try to make your own little Survivor and-

• 1:12:11Brooke Averick?

  That our Survivor is just take away our phones. Yeah.

• 1:12:15Speaker 04

  We'll just put you in an uncomfortable situation and just hit the camera.

• 1:12:19Brooke Averick?

  Give me one reel with my, one reel instead of food, instead of food.

• 1:12:22Connor Wood?

  No rice, just a reel.

• 1:12:24Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:25Speaker 04

  It would be a good show.

• 1:12:26Brooke Averick?

  It would.

• 1:12:26Speaker 04

  It would be terrible for you guys, but it would be very fun to watch.

• 1:12:30Brooke Averick?

  Like a, a show of its own.

• 1:12:32Connor Wood?

  Taylor Hanson, literally, first day in, he was like, I think it'd be funny to send influencers to an island with no phones.

• 1:12:38Brooke Averick?

  Yeah, he's not.

• 1:12:42Brooke Averick?

  Okay.

• 1:12:43Connor Wood?

  Mary, fret, kill.

• 1:12:44Brooke Averick?

  Very good, yeah. Very good. Back to that, dude.

• 1:12:46Connor Wood?

  Well, okay, Joey, we held you captive here. This was kind of like Survivor.

• 1:12:50Speaker 04

  I loved it. I missed you guys.

• 1:12:51Brooke Averick?

  We loved having you. Seriously.

• 1:12:53Speaker 04

  This was so much fun. And also, I need to once again say, if you're not voting for Connor, you're doing something wrong. This guy is working his ass off every single week.

• 1:13:02Connor Wood?

  Oh, dude.

• 1:13:02Speaker 04

  He is going to get better. You are what Dancing with the Stars is all about.

• 1:13:06Brooke Averick?

  Next week, hey, next week will be better.

• 1:13:08Speaker 04

  It will.

• 1:13:09Brooke Averick?

  Next week will be better.

• 1:13:10Speaker 04

  I, I'm saying it right now. I, I already said it. I will double down. I think you're getting your first eight next week. I, I do. Have you gotten an eight before? Your first multiple?

• 1:13:18Connor Wood?

  No, I have not. Not gotten an eight.

• 1:13:21Brooke Averick?

  Not yet.

• 1:13:22Connor Wood?

  There's room in my purse for an eight.

• 1:13:24Speaker 04

  It's coming.

• 1:13:25Brooke Averick?

  It is.

• 1:13:25Speaker 04

  It's coming. You're gonna do great, man. It's been fun watching you in that space. I'm, I'm excited for you.

• 1:13:30Connor Wood?

  And, um,

• 1:13:34Connor Wood?

  I just started crying. Uh, thanks for coming, Joey. We love you, dude.

• 1:13:37Brooke Averick?

  Thank you, Joey. You're the great kid.

• 1:13:39Connor Wood?

  Congrats on everything. Um, remind everybody, November 2nd.

• 1:13:43Speaker 04

  November 2nd, there's a movie called Holiday Spark on the Roku channel. Yeah, it's gonna be a great Christmas movie. You should watch it. And, uh, yeah. Uh, just follow me and my fiance, at Joey Grazie, at Kelsey Anderson, because you'll know what's going on with their life if you follow us.

• 1:13:56Connor Wood?

  This is our family.

• 1:13:57Brooke Averick?

  And you get cat content.

• 1:13:58Connor Wood?

  Cat content.

• 1:13:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, now we are part of the, the Kitty Alliance.

• 1:14:02Connor Wood?

  There's a lot of cat heads on here, so thank you so much, Joey.

• 1:14:04Speaker 04

  Thank you, guys.

• 1:14:05Connor Wood?

  Give it up for Joey.

• 1:14:06Brooke Averick?

  Yay.

• 1:14:07Connor Wood?

  Joey Guducci. Later, Joey. Thank you.

• 1:14:11Brooke Averick?

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  Ooh, the way you whipped that out.

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