Hunter Biden's WILD Interview, Trump SUES WSJ & Stephen Colbert FIRED w/ Sean Hannity | PBD Podcast | Ep. 619

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick are joined by Sean Hannity to break down Trump’s explosive lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal over his reported Epstein birthday letter, the shocking firing of Stephen Colbert, and Hunter Biden’s jaw-dropping, curse filled interview. ------ 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠ https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

• 1:13Speaker 03

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:18Speaker 03

  I send you right there.

• 1:19Speaker 04

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, guys. So we're going to make a massive announcement here today momentarily. We got Sean Hannity just landed on the helicopter, but he landed on the other side. So we sent the driver to bring him over here. So he'll be here momentarily. When he does, you'll see him walking in and the timing's kind of weird with everything that's going on. And who knows if he can speak it.

• 1:46Patrick Bet-David?

  God bless you.

• 1:47Speaker 05

  He's coming in hot.

• 1:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Sabrekov. Sabrekov, you know, if you're Armenian, you know. Anyways, who knows if he can even speak on it or not with everything that's going on? We're going to talk about it and go through it. I found a clip, a very weird clip. You guys got to see. I'll show you. It has to do with probably the guy that hates Trump the most. In America that had some inside scoop on Epstein that nobody else, I mean, if this guy could say anything bad about him, he would, Rob. I think you saw the clip. I don't want you to pull it up yet. We'll get to it here in a minute, but we got a lot of stories to go through, announcements about speakers at the vault. So hang tight, I'll get into it, but let's go through some of the stories here. All right. Wall Street Journal gets sued by Trump,

• 2:33Patrick Bet-David?

  $10 billion after releasing the letter that apparently the president wrote to Epstein. I think it was for his 50th or something like that. And it was doodling and all these other things, which there's a bunch of controversy behind it. No, he doesn't. Yes, he does. You know, what's the big deal? Leave it alone. So we'll have some time to go through that. And he said he can't wait to see, you know, Rupert Murdoch's face after just a few months ago, talking very nicely about Rupert Murdoch, which we'll show the clip. And again, today's guest's got a good relationship with both of them. Works for Murdoch, but it's got a good relationship with Trump as a friend for many, many decades, which we'll get into. Hunter Biden does a podcast

• 3:12Patrick Bet-David?

  with Channel 5 guy, which ends up becoming gangbusters all over the place. He drops the F-bomb, I think 15 times in the span of a minute and 10 seconds. New record. He announces that he wants to run for president. Guys, you may have Hunter Biden as your president 2020. Hello, partying. You know, White House is gonna be like, you know, President Trump's trying to do a, you know, UFC fight at the White House under Hunter Biden. Shit, after hours, you know, you're going out to nightclub, like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh. Everyone's outside. You don't have to go to the nightclub. You just walk down to the blue room where they got the cocaine. Different kind of a.

• 3:47Speaker 05

  But if they find cocaine in the White House, it's not gonna be his.

• 3:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he said that the cocaine is from the previous administration.

• 3:53Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 3:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, cuz they're all. No, no, no. Cuz it's gonna. As president, this cocaine is for the people. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, that would be an entertaining, you know, administration if it ever ends up happening. Donald Trump signs major crypto legislation, genius act into law. Trump calls for the release of Epstein's grand jury testimony. Trump sues Walt. I told you that. Boom, boom, boom. Trump says, I absolutely love that Stephen Colbert got fired and I hear Jimmy Kimmel is next. Shoot, if you look at the numbers, Colbert is number one for seven straight years and you fire him and he's beating Kimmel and Fallon? Who the hell is next? Fallon and, you know, who replaces them? Do they continue to show? If they do, who do they bring? Do they bring somebody like a, you know, who's the guy that recently was on ESPYS? And he crushed it. Shane Gillis.

• 4:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Do they bring a Shane Gillis that calls everybody out? Who was ousted from, uh, who knows what's gonna happen? But, you know, I don't know what direction those guys are gonna go. Whoever they bring, it's not 20 million a year. Watch them bring Joey Reed next and just really confuse everybody. Oh, pay her minimum wage. Stephen Colbert's late show operator, a $40 million loss, similar to the WNBA. It's actually interesting. They both have a $40 million loss and you guys know Adam's a diehard fan of the WNBA. Oh, yeah. And he's a complete woman. That makes sense. Jon Stewart fears paramount and Daily Show. Tulsi Gabbard calls for Obama to be prosecuted over 2016 election claims. Top politician who's a shoe-in to win 2020 presidential election. Uh, uh, uh, name, and we'll talk about that. Some of you guys may know who it is. We'll come back to it and look at what Polly Market is saying with the presidential for 2020.

• 5:22Patrick Bet-David?

  McDonald's AI chatbot hiring exposed data of job candidates. Elon's inventory piles up. Tesla Cybertruck sales plummeted. Ready? 51% in second quarter. Oh, that is terrible. I mean, it's so bad that Adam's even going to asking for discounts. If they're gonna give it to him for a discount. You know, I'm asking for a discount regardless, sir. Newsom proposes to ease permits for oil drilling California. Now he wants to do it after what the point Tom made yesterday. California tied for highest unemployment in the country and tied with Nevada. And while Newsom is trying to distract everybody from focusing on Florida and other states, his state keeps getting bad stats and we'll definitely talk about that. Maybe even we'll start off with that with Hannity because Hannity had Newsom on and Wes Moore.

• 6:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump deserves credit for securing border. Now you gotta realize who Wes Moore is. Wes Moore is a name that a lot of people on the left would like to see this man run because... Some say he's liking Obama, some say he's even better than an Obama. I think he's the Maryland governor, if I'm not mistaken. Super capable guy on the left, formidable, you gotta keep that name, Wes Moore. How YouTube won the battle for TV viewers. Pierce Morgan accuses Joy Reid of playing race card in heated exchange over MSNBC firing, and guess who shows up out of nowhere? You know, guy comes up, Michael Knowles, handsome, good-looking guy, and they kinda go back and forth, and it wasn't pretty for Joy Reid, okay? But knowing the way the

• 6:46Patrick Bet-David?

  media works, they may just hire, she may get a job here soon, somewhere. And then Israeli military investigates report of harm to civilians after hundreds killed near Gaza aid sites. Officials say 85 Palestinians seek aid are killed in Gaza as Israelis widens evacuation orders, and Kamala Harris mocked for post-celebrating one-year anniversary of failed presidential campaign is what she is going through as well. Now, Rob, tell me what's going on out there, because when I go into my announcement, I don't want any disruption. Can you find out what's going on? So maybe wait till I announce the guest. Do we have him here?

• 7:23Speaker 06

  The golf cart's pulling up to the building now.

• 7:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So golf cart's pulling up to the building now. Kelly, if you're listening, what's the ETA? Are we two minutes? Then I'm gonna get into the announcement. While I'm making the announcement, don't bring them in while I'm going through an announcement. Alright, so let me tell you guys what's going on. The Vault Conference, September 8 through 11, nearly 12,000 people will be coming this year, but we have three guest speakers that I'll be announcing here to you, and it's gonna be massive. And they're all intentionally invited for different reasons. Rob, I don't want you to play the video until I make the announcement for the guest, and then we can play the clip afterwards, but this was all intentional, and there's gonna be a handful of massive announcements being made at the Vault Conference. If you're somebody that's running a business owner, the great thing

• 8:06Patrick Bet-David?

  about the Vault is, you'll be having a conversation with somebody at the event, and you just run into them at the store, and they're an aspiring entrepreneur. Then you go to talk to somebody else that they're an executive of a Fortune 500 company. Then you go talk to somebody else who just exited their company and sold it for $700 million. Then you go talk to somebody else that's still with a big private equity company that's trying to deploy hundreds of millions of dollars. Then you go talk to somebody else from Goldman Sachs that's a money manager. The types of people, then you go talk to somebody else that's a podcaster, YouTuber, that you recognize their faces. The types of people that show up to the Vault... Makes it a reason why this is becoming a number one business conference in America that you go to actually get strategies that you leave, you implement, you can win in life, business, all of it combined together. So, the three speakers that we have to follow.

• 8:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Number one speaker, uh, for me, you guys know I'm a big fan of the movie Air, and you guys know I'm a big fan of anybody that's a strong negotiator, that's done some of the biggest deals ever. We were able to get David Falk, Michael Jordan's agent, manager, who signed a Nike deal, who by the way, in 1982, he was the first person to sign a multimillion dollar deal for James Ward. He was the first agent to sign a hundred million dollar deal with Alonzo Mourning. Michael Jordan gives him so much credit. I can't wait to sit down and talk to him. He was one of the most entertaining characters in the movie Air, story of Michael Jordan. Number two speaker that we'll have at the Vault Conference is the OG, content

• 9:32Patrick Bet-David?

  creator, brand person, who influencer, who became a billionaire in 1999, who understood what it looked like to be in front of a camera, Martha Stewart will be at the Vault Conference. Martha Stewart will be at the Vault Conference. We're excited about that. She had one of the best documentaries that everybody talks about, and I'll be sitting down with her interviewing her, uh, at the Vault Conference. A lot of you fellas that want to bring your wives down, just let them know Martha Stewart's gonna be there. They're gonna want to come and hear and see what she has to say. And last but not least, the keynote speaker at the Vault Conference that won't be speaking for 30 minutes, not 45 minutes, not an hour, not hour and 15 minutes, for two hours, the one and only Tony Robbins will be at the Vault Conference. Tony Robbins will be at the Vault Conference. So, we're excited about, uh, we're

• 10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  excited about that. This is a very, very big deal because there will be multiple big announcements being made there. Some of you guys are gonna get a chance to meet the guests, uh, that are gonna be there. Having said that, Rob, you can play the clip here right now. If you haven't been to the conference, if you haven't yet registered, go to the Vault Conference, get registered. Get your ticket, bring your spouse, bring your partner, bring your, you know, other employees and executives with you. Come spend three and a half days with us at the Gaylord Orlando. And at the end of the event, the people that get CEO tickets were shutting down Universal Studios. You can go on Velocicoaster as many times as you want to. You can go on the rides. We'll be hanging out. Literally, we're shutting down the entire Universal Studios at the end. For all the CEOs

• 10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  to have some fun, you're gonna see 58-year-olds act like they're 16-years-old, and we're doing business at the same time, which makes it kinda exciting. Rob, at this point, I've been going for a minute. We don't need to play the clip. We can just go ahead and, uh, uh, drive people to thevaultconference.com. Again, go to thevaultconference.com website, thevaultconference.com. Get your ticket. Uh, this is by far the most important time for you to not go through this process by yourself. Come network with nearly 12,000 people in one room and take your business and your life to the next level. Can't wait to see you there. And with that being said, our guest is in the house, the one and only Sean Hannity. Come on in, Sean Hannity.

• 11:38Speaker 00

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• 12:38Patrick Bet-David?

  How you doing, man?

• 12:40Speaker 03

  Good to see ya.

• 12:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Good to finally meet you.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  Nice to meet you.

• 12:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Pleasure, yes.

• 12:42Speaker 03

  Thank you for doing my show so much.

• 12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, of course.

• 12:44Speaker 03

  You doing okay?

• 12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Sean, Vincent, nice to meet you, very nice to meet you. How you doing, man? Nice to meet you. What a good group. Where am I sitting?

• 12:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right here. Yes, you are right here. All right.

• 12:54Speaker 03

  What am I doing? Why did you guys talk me into this? No, I'm kidding.

• 12:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Welcome, Mr. Hannity.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  It's a honor to be here.

• 12:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So Sean, next time, we gotta send you our helicopter guy to bring you to the right side of the airport.

• 13:05Speaker 03

  I know.

• 13:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Instead of the other side.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  I was here on time, for the record. I'm not usually late, I don't like being late. Um, at all.

• 13:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's true what they say about you, you do have perfect hair. You look like you could've gone to Hollywood's side if you wanted to.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  No, I just got blown over the place.

• 13:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, if it looks like that, after getting off the helicopter, yeah, if you could. If you look like that after the helicopter, you're doing good for yourself.

• 13:26Speaker 03

  Now, where's my volume? I am deaf. You know, I started radio in nineteen eighty-seven, you weren't born yet.

• 13:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I was born in seventy-eight, so nine years prior to that.

• 13:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, crazy, right?

• 13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You think I'm that young? If you think I'm thirty-seven, I like you already, I'm forty-six.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  Well, you like me already, 'cause... You can't hear yourself? Yeah, a little louder would be great. Like, I have amplifiers.

• 13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Big knob up top.

• 13:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, there we go, it's not terrible.

• 13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you hear yourself, or no?

• 13:50Speaker 03

  Check one, two. You know what, I'm better off without my cans.

• 13:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, then just make sure you're as close to the mic as possible.

• 13:56Speaker 03

  That I talk to a microphone, really?

• 13:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 13:58Speaker 03

  Is that how that works?

• 13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  'Cause it's your first time on camera, Mr. Hannity, what's going on right now?

• 14:01Speaker 03

  First time doing radio.

• 14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You look camera ready. Listen, we're gonna coach you through it, don't be nervous, it's gonna be okay.

• 14:06Speaker 03

  Do I look nervous?

• 14:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, listen, it's, it's, you haven't been doing this for too long.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  Well, look, I gotta compliment you guys, number one. If I was gonna start my career today, I would not do it the way I did it. You know, when I started in radio, there were two hundred, maybe two hundred and fifty talk radio stations in the country.

• 14:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  That was well over five thousand, I never thought I'd be on, we're getting up to like seven hundred and seventy stations. Um, which is great because we, you know, literally cover the entire country. Then we also podcast it and then we also put it on Sirius XM. Uh, I was so fortunate to get to Fox in October. I will have completed 30 years on Fox News.

• 14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn, good for you.

• 14:48Speaker 03

  Crazy, right?

• 14:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Respect.

• 14:49Speaker 03

  Man.

• 14:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's been there 30 years?

• 14:51Speaker 03

  Nobody. No, there's been a couple of us, not many.

• 14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No TV 30 years?

• 14:54Speaker 03

  The longest running primetime cable news show in the history of cable news.

• 14:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm saying. That's insane.

• 15:00Speaker 03

  It's insane.

• 15:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Congratulations.

• 15:01Speaker 03

  Thank you, thank you.

• 15:02Patrick Bet-David?

  That's unbelievable.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Um, I feel blessed because I, I don't know what happened. I'm, uh, you guys experienced this. First time that light went on and I got in front of this thing, it changed my life. That's all I, I cared about. That's all I wanted to do. It was, you know, it changed my life dramatically and, you know, I feel blessed to do it every day. I just, I dial in, I focus, I just immerse myself in information constantly and, you know, then I get to meet great guys like you, so it's an honor to be here. Thank you so much for having me.

• 15:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, listen, for, for folks who don't do this, to think about 30 years and you have to manage vacations, personal life, crisis.

• 15:41Speaker 03

  Vacation, what is that?

• 15:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Challenges, issues. Well, I mean, listen, you've made money.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  I get some.

• 15:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You've made a few hundred million dollars. You're, you're a pretty wealthy guy.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  Are you sure about that?

• 15:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  I read all these net worth statements. Nobody's ever gotten it right.

• 15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it. Really?

• 15:53Speaker 03

  No.

• 15:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't believe it.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  They haven't gotten the number right.

• 15:56Patrick Bet-David?

  They haven't gotten the number right?

• 15:58Speaker 03

  No.

• 15:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Can I give a range? I'm gonna give a range.

• 16:00Speaker 03

  Oh, you want to know how much I'm worth?

• 16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna give a range.

• 16:02Speaker 03

  Do you think I'm telling you that?

• 16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But then don't say that. They haven't gotten it right. And don't say if they've gotten it right or not. Um. But, but the biggest part about it, that's, that's inspiring to younger guys that are coming up, is that if you're out there, you work your ass off, long-term, you stay consistent, steady, you can make life-changing money in this business, but it takes discipline, hard work, outlast, outperform, out-improve, and you've simply been, been able to do it.

• 16:26Speaker 03

  I'm so glad you said that because the real work is not on the air. The, the on-air part is the fun part, right? It's all the research, all the reading. I just immerse myself five days a week and that's pretty much all I do. You know, in one, one capacity or another.

• 16:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you mind if we get into stories?

• 16:44Speaker 03

  Whatever, I don't care. It's your podcast, I'm just a guest here.

• 16:48Patrick Bet-David?

  If you say that, then I'm gonna get into real stories. I'm just telling you, because you happen to be in a very, you know, strange place that I don't even know if you can speak on the story or not, because on one end, you work for Fox News.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  I do.

• 17:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And you've been there for...

• 17:01Speaker 03

  Thirty years.

• 17:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty years in October. And...

• 17:04Speaker 03

  Thank you, somebody has a memory here. Let's go.

• 17:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And thirty years with Fox News. On the other end, you have a very good relationship with the President, President Trump.

• 17:15Speaker 03

  I do.

• 17:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And, so, you're kind of in this, in the middle of the thing where last week, I'm not sure if you can speak on it or not, obviously we're gonna open up with the story because it's you, Fox, Trump, and we've been talking about this whole Epstein thing for a minute. Trump, while everyone's talking about everything that's going on, you post this message last week on all the victories, that most people are not looking, they're overlooking. Rob, if you can play this clip real quick, and you're gonna react to yourself real quick. Go ahead, Rob.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  I'm an ugly guy. That I have been a longtime friend and supporter, and been very transparent of President Trump, but even I am frankly amazed at what he has been able to do against all odds in such a very short period of time. What we're living through, you better take, you know, really close notes, because you most likely will never see this again in your lifetime, the single most consequential, transformational presidency in our lifetime, and without a doubt, the underlying theme of the White House, promises made, right, promises kept.

• 18:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, the different victories that he's had, President Trump, we've seen and we followed very closely on what he's done. Then all of a sudden, Wall Street Journal releases a story last week, I wanna say, is it last week, Tuesday, yeah, last week, about a letter that the President got, or wrote to Epstein at his 50th birthday party, I believe, and Rob, if you tell me what letter this page is on, Trump's, okay, somebody calls a release, okay, I'm saying Trump's, okay, so, is that page five, Trump sues Wall Street Journal, Rupert Murdoch, over the Epstein letter, okay? And as you go through the letter... Most people are saying this is not true. Most people are saying this is not a real story.

• 19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Most people are saying he's not doing this. He's not doodling. Well, he does doodle. No, he doesn't doodle. My father would never write this. Everyone's going back and forth because this Epstein thing became, in my opinion, I've said it on Jesse, I've said it on many different places. It was a fumble. I don't think it was handled properly. Promises were made, promises were not kept when it comes down to this specific topic. And I raided a lot of different people. And he's over the years said a lot of bad things about Epstein on camera. He said, here's a guy that, did he kill himself? Did he not kill himself? Did this happen? Did that not happen? Who knows what happened? We gotta get to the bottom of it. And you're in the middle. How do you manage for you? You go to work. Your friend is Trump, President Trump for many years. And your boss is Rupert Murdoch. They used to be good. Now he is suing your boss for $10 billion.

• 19:47Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you manage that?

• 19:48Speaker 03

  Uh, it's easy. I just always tell the truth. It's not really that complicated. I have been blessed to work for a company that lets me be me. And honestly, that is rare in broadcasting. You're independent. You make your own decisions, right? But for the most part, I make my own decisions. I don't really, I don't, I don't have these handcuffs on that maybe some other people at other networks do. What I do for a living is I am a member of the press, right? I, I, I can produce thousands of hours of straight news coverage, radio and TV, over my career. I can produce thousands of hours of investigative reporting.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  I can produce thousands of hours of opinion. But I'm upfront, I'm honest, I am a conservative. I don't hide the fact that I support Donald Trump. I can produce thousands of hours, radio and TV, of topics on culture and sports and anything else that's going on in the world. So, I just find it interesting, whenever people...

• 20:55Speaker 03

  I find for myself, when people start getting really loud and emotional and rushing to judgment, I have this reaction. I pull back. You know, one of the things, my first thought is, on the Epstein files, is if there was something so damning in there about Donald Trump and the weaponized Department of Justice of Joe Biden had it, does anyone here doubt they would have released it?

• 21:22Speaker 05

  Just one, Sean, if they're all on it too, if Bill Clinton and all that group is in there, they're like, "We really want to, but we can't because we're in with him."

• 21:31Speaker 03

  They could have selectively leaked, though. I mean, they're more sophisticated than that.

• 21:35Speaker 05

  True, but then the investigation opens up, Sean, but I see where you're coming from, but that's what it felt like to the, I'm just like you, I love the president, I love what he's doing, Pat mentioned that he stumbled, but that's the one thing that hit me in my head where I'm like, maybe, I'm not saying he's definitely on it, but I mean, he knew the guy, maybe they're all on it. They're all on it as well.

• 21:53Speaker 03

  Okay, so add one more piece to the puzzle, right? Because to me, it's a puzzle, people trying to put it together. Twenty-plus years ago, he threw his ass out of Mar-a-Lago. Okay, now, if you got something on somebody, you're gonna throw him out of your club in a spectacular fashion and embarrass the hell out of the guy, and not expect that that guy's gonna come back at you with, with information if he had it? I don't know. That's, that's hard for me to believe. Let me backtrack a hair and how my brain works and the way I approach things. You want the long version or the short one?

• 22:27Patrick Bet-David?

  What I want to know is, if there's anyone qualified-

• 22:29Speaker 03

  I have a long version.

• 22:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No, give me, you, thirty years you've been in this business, you're in New York, you come to Florida a lot.

• 22:35Speaker 03

  No, I live in Florida, I'm done. I'm out of New York.

• 22:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw that, May.

• 22:38Speaker 03

  Free state of Florida.

• 22:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, frickin', you're welcome. We did the same thing. We left California, we lived in Dallas five years now. We've been here four years, we love it. But the entire, your understanding of what's happened with Epstein, you've been in this thirty years. Thirty years is a long time ago where stories, nineties, ninety-five, come in and you're hearing stuff about this guy. What is your impression? Is this a bad guy? Is this guy, did this guy do what he did? Because some people are saying, who knows if he did? Now they're saying, who knows if the stories are right or wrong?

• 23:07Speaker 03

  Trump, I know the story. When he got kicked out of Mar-a-Lago is because of how he treated young women.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  That I know for a fact. It wasn't for no reason at all. That the reason he got kicked out was because of his treatment of young women at Mar-a-Lago. Let me backtrack to what I was gonna say. So, I was a local radio host before I started at Fox in Atlanta. First, I spent five years in Santa Barbara, California. I went to Huntsville, Alabama, was paid nineteen grand a year, but I loved what I was doing. I loved being behind this microphone. Then I got a promotion to a big market in Atlanta. I was there from ninety-two to ninety-six. I can get you the year-end edition of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Nineteen ninety-six was a great year. The Olympics came and Sean Hannity left. Have that framed.

• 23:57Speaker 03

  That's great. That's pretty cool, right? And I guess I had some impact on the market. And then that's when I got hired by Fox, so I went up to Fox. However, my last year there, remember the Olympics in the city of Atlanta? Remember that? Okay, remember a guy by the name of Richard Jewell?

• 24:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course, he was the guy that I think found him. Security guy that was falsely accused when he actually found the backpack.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  Okay, here's the better part of the story. Oh, they made a movie about this guy, yes, of course. I'm on the air the day that the Atlanta Journal-Constitution comes out with, "He fits the profile of the lone bomber because he lives with his mother." Okay, maybe he lives with his mother because he wants to save money, right? So I was instinctively on the air suspicious that, this is, you know, I'm not rushing a judgment here. Little did I know, and I found out later, Richard Jewell was listening to my program at that moment. And we had a conversation later, I got one of the early interviews with him. According to his lawyer, the stress of all this killed this guy, getting hammered in the press,

• 25:03Speaker 03

  and it went on for a long, long period of time. But when he came on the program, that taught me a valuable lesson about rushing to judgment. So I have a history, right? Everyone has a history in broadcasting. And I've learned not to rush to judgment. And I like to watch stories develop. That's why I said when people start going in and, you know, racing out there and they're trying to outdo each other and they want to be first and they got their theory. And I kind of feel a little bit like this on the Epstein story. But if you go through my list of issues I got right over the years and everyone else in the corrupt legacy state-run media mob got wrong. Uh, I was right about Duke Lacrosse. I went to meet with those families. I talked to them.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  I knew exculpatory evidence was coming out. Uh, UVA, I was right on that. Everybody else was wrong. Ferguson, Missouri. I had so many police contacts that were telling me, Sean, there are multiple African-American eyewitnesses that will corroborate Darren Wilson's story. I got that right. Everybody else went with hands up, don't shoot, which is a crock of bullshit. Um, I try not to rush to judgment. I got Freddie Gray in Baltimore right. I got George Zimmerman right. Cause I went down and I also had a law enforcement contact that told me, no, there's going to be testimony from an eyewitness that says that George Zimmerman was on the ground and there was a ground impound and his head was being pounded into the cement.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  Then I can go to Russia collusion, the FISA warrants, impeachment one, impeachment two. You know, all of these other witch hunts against Trump. How did I end up? Is it an accident that I end up on the right side of those stories? I'm not, Patrick, but David, I am not tooting my own horn. I am only saying what works for me is when everyone goes deep and they just rush it in, I tend to just do this and pull back. That's what I'm doing here. Now, I have a history. I know Pam Bondi for 30 years. I've known Dan Bongino forever. I mean, we have a good relationship. I know Cash Patel. I've known him forever. So, um, maybe did they, they, they, they thought there was information

• 27:17Speaker 03

  in there? Yeah, my understanding is, is that the files had names of victims. My understanding is the tapes were taken from Epstein's, and again, these are sources. I haven't, I'm not definitively saying it, but the tapes were, you know, kiddie porn. Are they gonna release kiddie porn? Are they gonna release the names of victims? Now, what they are trying to do, which I think is very smart, and I'd like to see it.

• 27:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You believe, you believe what they're saying?

• 27:42Speaker 03

  I'm not, I, I, right now, I'm in the point where I've not rushed to judgment. I'm not making a decision. I'm giving you the honest answer.

• 27:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You believe that. So, okay, so maybe i- i- from, from my stand, y- y- you have to realize, th- this is so tough, because three times we've, I've voted for this guy. I'm speaking for myself, right? 16, 20, and 24. When you come out and Bondi tells media, you know, uh, uh,

• 28:11Speaker 03

  At a restaurant?

• 28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  James O'Keefe's, uh, group, when they're coming and recording, oh, you, there's terrible things in those tapes.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  $10,000.

• 28:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Cash comes out, says things about them. Bongino comes out saying, I'm in a Fox room with another person that I can't say their name because Fox didn't allow me to give the name that, the footage that they have goes back to Mossad, and it's all linked back to Mossad with Epstein.

• 28:31Speaker 03

  By the way, how the hell did the Mossad get pulled into this? It's that, uh,

• 28:37Patrick Bet-David?

  How did Mossad get pulled into Epstein?

• 28:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm trying to understand the connection. What, because his father somehow might have been connected to him? Delane Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell.

• 28:47Adam Sosnick?

  Mr. Hannity, let's not play games here. You know the Mossad runs the United States. Everyone knows that.

• 28:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, he, by the way, he's been sarcastic.

• 28:53Adam Sosnick?

  I'm joking, by the way. But certain members of our audience believe that. What do you feel, why do you feel that's such a distraction?

• 29:00Speaker 03

  To take out Iran's nuclear facilities. For the life of me, I cannot understand that. For the life of me, there is a vein of, I would argue, virulence antisemitism. We see it in the halls of Congress, we see it in college campuses. But it's simple, basic, fundamental, common sense. What frustrates me about that issue is that if that's your reason for not wanting to take out their nuclear sites, you don't understand the Trump doctrine. Because in his first term, he kicked the crap out of the ISIS caliphate, defeated them in record time, took out Baghdadi and associates, took out Soleimani, dropped the mother of all bombs in Afghanistan.

• 29:42Speaker 03

  And so, the Trump doctrine is, yeah, sure, no forever wars. I'm with you. I don't want forever wars. We can't ever go back and do what we did in Iraq ever again. With the advancement of military technology, we won't have to fight wars that way. Future wars will be fought in air-conditioned offices. But I say all that, and it's like, did you not understand the Trump doctrine?

• 30:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, let me go back to what you said. So you, thirty years, Fox, you're not under the impression of any stories that Jeffrey Epstein and his brother Mark may be linked back to Mossad with Israel?

• 30:18Speaker 03

  I have no evidence of that.

• 30:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So thirty-two times, the Prime Minister of Israel visits-

• 30:24Speaker 03

  Oh, Ehud Barak.

• 30:25Speaker 05

  Right, in his apartment, and he's seen leaving with a mask covering his face.

• 30:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not a valid concern?

• 30:31Speaker 03

  Oh, no, it is a valid concern. Just because I say that I stand back and wait, I'm just telling you, I can't give you a definitive answer today. Now, do I want to get to the bottom of all of it? Yeah, but I do find people getting over their skis a little bit in their commentary. That's my humble opinion.

• 30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Self-inflicted, though. I think a part of this is self-inflicted.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  They should be, you'd never want to overpromise and underdeliver.

• 30:54Patrick Bet-David?

  To me, to me, it would have stopped right there. Because if I run for office, and I say, here's the five things. This is what's important to me. And then all of a sudden, guys on my team start making promises, oh, we're gonna do this. And then they go on podcasts, and we're gonna do, and let me tell you, we're gonna do this. I'm like, hey, guys, listen. Who are you? When you say "we," who is "we"? Are you representing me? Did I tell you we're gonna do that? We're not doing that. I'm gonna let you know, take the lead. So I feel, the way they got into this debacle- Is they did it to themselves. Now, there's plenty of research, independent journalists that I've done to find out stuff about Epstein that they're not too comfortable about. And there's plenty of stuff out there. I mean, I was watching his deposition this morning on, hey, have you ever

• 31:38Patrick Bet-David?

  gotten a felony before? I have. What were your felonies for? One was for solicitation of prostitution, and the other one was solicitation for minor.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  By the way, that that deal never should have happened with that Palm Beach prosecutor. That that was insane. That was that was the sweetheart deal of all deals.

• 31:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, yeah, and so so again, Vinnie, I'm sorry, I know you want to say something. To me, a part of that

• 32:01Speaker 03

  No, keep fighting. I kind of like it.

• 32:02Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. A part of that sweetheart deal is where people are going back and saying, I met Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi gives me the vibes of a very, a character, ethical type of a person.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  She is. I can tell you that.

• 32:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I got nothing but positive vibes. She was very nice to my boys. She was very respectful. But to all of a sudden say that they have nothing, and it's just child porn, that's confusing. By the way, you know who has the most credibility on this story here? I'm gonna show you guys something that's even gonna spook you a little bit.

• 32:32Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 32:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Tell me who hates Trump the most? The last 10 years, since 2016, can you tell me who hates Trump the most?

• 32:40Adam Sosnick?

  That's a long list.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  By the way, that's a long list.

• 32:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but I want you to go who was close ally, who hates him the most, who

• 32:47Speaker 03

  You're gonna play Nancy Pelosi.

• 32:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I'm not gonna play Nancy Pelosi.

• 32:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not gonna play Pelosi. You're not gonna be able to guess what I'm gonna play.

• 32:53Adam Sosnick?

  His old fixer, Michael, uh, Michael Cohen.

• 32:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Rob, play this clip. Watch this here. Okay?

• 32:58Speaker 09

  What can you speak to about your time with Donald Trump as it relates to Jeffrey Epstein, if at all?

• 33:04Speaker 10

  So actually, I fell into Trump's orbit around 2005, but I became part of the Trump Organization as the executive vice president and special counsel in 2007. From the time that I started to the time that I finished in 2018, I actually never heard him mention Jeffrey Epstein at all. I never saw Jeffrey Epstein in the office when I was one of the

• 33:29Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy hates

• 33:29Speaker 10

  10,000 hours

• 33:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, keep listening.

• 33:31Speaker 10

  in Trump's office, doing work with him. I never heard Jeffrey Epstein on the phone or even call into the office. There was no relationship from the time that I started at the org to the time that I left.

• 33:44Speaker 09

  And so how do you then, when you kind of look at what is transpiring now and the way he's handling it, what do you make of the way he's handling it? The reason why this scandal, if you will, this controversy, this individual has captivated so much attention and raised a lot of serious legitimate questions?

• 34:01Speaker 10

  Sure, because that's what they campaigned on. That's what he sold to his MAGA base. He was going to release the Epstein files. He was going to release the Martin Luther King files. He was going to release the John F. Kennedy files. He chose not to. It's a mistake. He should have just released the full file. Because by not doing that, all it does is create these conspiracy theories. Oh, he must be guilty of something.

• 34:27Patrick Bet-David?

  See, this is the part, Michael Cohen? Vinny, like you tell me why Michael Cohen, who on any chance he's gotten to lie to destroy him, he's done it. That this probably for him, as weird as it sounds, he has the most credibility on this topic the last 20 years to say what he I know this sounds very weird.

• 34:48Speaker 03

  Because he's been around him. He has zero credibility.

• 34:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what I mean on credibility with this?

• 34:52Speaker 03

  But I understand what you're saying. He would be the last person you would expect.

• 34:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He would be the last person to defend.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 34:58Patrick Bet-David?

  This is an easy slam dunk for you to say, well, you know, there was that one time I was sitting next door and he picked up a call and he made some jokes about underage and I felt very uncomfortable. And I asked him, who were you talking to? So my boy Jeffrey, and I had to walk because that was the one thing I draw. Even Bill Gates's wife said, Melinda, hey, what made me most uncomfortable with Bill Gates was who? Was the relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Jeffrey Epstein, he was a porn.

• 35:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So you mean to tell me this guy who hates Trump that much is going to defend him?

• 35:28Speaker 05

  It's a little weird. But my question is this though, guys. So it's undeniable what he was doing. He was recording. It was a blackmail operation. He being Epstein. Epstein. When Alex Acosta, Sean said, you know, he worked for intelligence. Could have been Mossad, could have been ours, could have been a group of people. Our thing is Pam Bondi, Bongino, Patel, that they were screaming from the rooftops. This is what, if I'm in, I'm not leading up to their assignments. Then once they're in, Sean, we feel like somebody told them, hey, shh, shut up. Just like when he was arrested in Florida with that sweetheart deal you were talking about. Alex Acosta, whoever was in charge, you gave him a 12 hour, all he had to do was be there for 12 hours.

• 36:10Speaker 05

  So he slept at the prison. The door was open. He only had to sleep there one night. Who gives a convicted pedophile that type of access? But then when you go back, why is Epstein visiting the White House 17 times? And then Mark Middleton, Sean, who was his close aide and advisor, that guy signs him on 7 times. And then that guy suicides himself hanging from a tree with the extension cord, shotgun to the chest. No shotgun found. It's just all this stuff, all we want, Sean, as the supporters, and I get it. Trump's not on it. Put that aside. But the people that were on those tapes, Sean, those terabytes of information, we want. Our, I know the real MAGA, we want accountability for those pieces of those demons

• 36:53Speaker 05

  who destroyed these kids' lives, Sean, who these kids, by the way, I say this too. I talked to Tom about this the other day. If you, what do you think they did with some of these girls or underage boys that were with these high profile guys that saw their faces? You think they just let them go back into society? No, they're gone forever. We've lost 300,000 kids at our border. Thank God Trump said that they found what, 10,000? What about the 290,000 that are gone? Gone, and nobody cares about them. So we have to keep talking about it. I don't think Trump's implicated, but come on, I don't want to see any child porn. But what you guys are seeing at the FBI, arrest those people. Arrest them. You see them. Why do he have cameras in every room? Whistleblower said every room, Sean, everywhere you went, you were on camera. Who was he recording it for? And where's the footage?

• 37:37Speaker 03

  I had one source tell me, take it for what it's worth. I'm not, I'm, again, I'm trying to piece this together as you are.

• 37:45Speaker 03

  That there were, none of those tapes existed. Those tapes you just referred to. Now, as it relates to Acosta and his comment about. About the intelligence community, what intelligence community? I want you, we need more details. So to me, I have more questions than answers. I want the answers like you do. I don't think there's anything more repugnant Bible even says as much than to harm a child.

• 38:09Adam Sosnick?

  Matthew eight, chapter eight, verse.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  Bingo. Wow, I'm impressed.

• 38:12Adam Sosnick?

  I learned from this guy over here.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  Um, there's nothing more offensive to me, and I don't think anything more offensive to God. If you believe in the Bible as I do, and I want the answers to the questions. Now, I'm just maybe a little bit more willing to give it more time. I want more information. I want it all revealed. Now, let's see, for example, Pam Bondi's trying to get the grand jury testimony. Dershowitz, who's a friend of mine, and, and man, he, he got caught up in this for a while. And he was so adamant, he was gonna sue everybody. He's like, and Dershowitz's, his entire career has represented controversial figures like OJ. And in the case of Epstein, I also know David Schoen.

• 38:57Speaker 03

  He was friends with Epstein in the final years of his life. I interviewed him, asked his, what he knew about it. And I'm, again, I, I want the answers like everybody else does.

• 39:09Adam Sosnick?

  Did you hear what Dershowitz had to say?

• 39:11Speaker 03

  I did hear what he said.

• 39:12Adam Sosnick?

  Dershowitz wrote an article, I think it was in the Wall Street Journal.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  He talked about the grand jury testimony, being where the mother lode would probably be.

• 39:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I mean, whether you believe Dershowitz or not, that's on you. But I'll just sort of boil down his main three points. And, you know, we live in a rush to judgment, trial by media, trial by social media society. So respect for you for, uh, waiting until actual evidence comes out versus rushing for judgment. Here's what, um, Dershowitz had to say. Number one, there was no client list. The list that you speak of was the victims list. People hear list, list, list, list, they freak out.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  I have four sources, not one, not two, not three.

• 39:48Adam Sosnick?

  Not four, not five, we're winning championships here.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  Four, that say the same thing. That's why, that's why I said, everybody rushes in with their commentary and I'm like,

• 39:56Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  I'm gonna wait.

• 39:58Adam Sosnick?

  He, he also said the two other things. Number one, the tapes you speak of were public tapes. Like, we have videotapes here, all in Valuetainment, everywhere you go. There's cameras all over here, but there's not cameras necessarily in PBD's office, or in PBD's bathroom. I don't know. This is what Durst wants us to say.

• 40:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You sure about that?

• 40:16Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know. I don't know.

• 40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Six cameras in the bathroom.

• 40:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Number three, and this is the one that's gonna freak people out, that there was actually no, like, actual ties to intelligence agencies. Whether it's Mossad, whether it's CIA, I don't know. This was his attorney. He understands the law. I would love to hear his-

• 40:33Speaker 03

  You are making my point. It's like, these are all unanswered questions. Now, if there is a valid criticism, like, I do believe they had a pile of, an Epstein file. I don't think they went through it. They just said they had it, and probably that created a lot of hope for people, and then that has now evolved into suspicion.

• 40:57Adam Sosnick?

  Don't you think that this was Pam Bondi's job that she completely butchered? Hear me out.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:01Adam Sosnick?

  I think Cash Patel is an honest guy. I think Dan Bongino has the highest credibility.

• 41:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:06Adam Sosnick?

  I actually believe Trump on this one. I don't think JD Vance has any clue what's going on in this. He wasn't around during any of this. Pam Bondi, she was a little-known, what, Attorney General in Florida?

• 41:16Speaker 03

  Right after the Epstein thing in Florida, yeah.

• 41:18Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying, on the national scale-

• 41:20Speaker 03

  She kicked ass in Florida.

• 41:21Adam Sosnick?

  Yes. I live in Florida. I've heard her name a bunch. On a national level, nobody heard of Pam Bondi. All of a sudden, she's catapulted to Attorney General of the United States, and she's an attractive woman. Hear me out. She sees herself on TV, national news, for the first time of her life.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  I don't think-

• 41:37Adam Sosnick?

  You're telling me that a star doesn't look at the, oh my god. You know who believes me? Megyn Kelly, because she's exactly what she said. Your old friend Megyn Kelly. Is Megyn Kelly wrong?

• 41:48Speaker 03

  I'm not gonna sit here and say anyone's right or wrong. I'm just saying I haven't come to my conclusion. I respect everyone's opinion. You know, this is the... Success in media is not a zero-sum game. My success, my failure is not rooted in anyone else's success or failure. If they come to a conclusion based on their opinion, their gut, their instincts, or information they have that I don't have, I respect it. I listen to it, I absorb it, take it in. And, but I have to get to the point, like I did in all of those cases I mentioned to you where I ended up being right. I spent three years with an ensemble cast to get to the bottom of Russia collusion. And we were unpeeling the layers of the onion, the lie. Look what it's now evolved into, right?

• 42:32Speaker 03

  It took three years of programming on radio and TV to get to that point. We were proven right. The corrupt legacy, state-run legacy media mob, they were wrong. But we did it very... We did it... It happened slowly. It happened over time. We found out the Hillary Clinton bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier. Yeah, it was used as the basis of four FISA warrants. Hillary Clinton got a pass when it came to top-secret classified information. You know, if I have any bit of concern over this, is people are so focused on it, and they should be. I'm fine with that, because I want to get the answers.

• 43:16Speaker 03

  I think we'll get a lot more if we get that grand jury testimony. That will be up to a judge. But here's the problem. Sunday was the six-month mark of Trump's presidency. And what you played earlier from me, and what I'm saying about it, is so transformational and consequential. And he's taken on every big, major issue in a way that no president that I can think of in a hundred years is fundamentally shifting the country, I would argue, back to constitutional order and limited government, greater freedom. All of that's lost.

• 43:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So I will give you, I'll give you, I'll give you one thing to be thinking about. You're a sports guy. You, you love, you love throwing the football at the end of your show and, you know, so, so who was the team that almost had a perfect season and at the end of it, they lost because of a couple turnovers that they made devastating. They could have gone undefeated the entire year. Would have been known as the greatest season any NFL team ever had. The Patriots, right?

• 44:22Speaker 05

  Against Giants, baby.

• 44:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Against your Giants, right? So what's the point? This is all I'm saying. All I'm saying is, when you have a vision that big and you're working your ass off the way that you are, and you're trying to juggle all these different projects at the same time, you have to talk to your leadership team, no more turnovers moving forward, not at this level. This could have been prevented. This was a massive fumble that could have been prevented by the team. Because to Trump's credit, when Trump did that interview with Rachel Campos Duffy, and she asked, and she goes like this, so Mr. President, you know what scene I'm talking about? She's like this, right? And she says, so are you gonna release the John F. Kennedy? Yes. Are you gonna release the Martin? Yes. 9/11, yes.

• 45:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Not this one, Rob. Are you gonna release the Epstein? Yes. Ah, I don't know, because, so even then, Trump didn't give a definite answer.

• 45:17Speaker 05

  No. He's like, some people's names might be on there and they might not be.

• 45:20Patrick Bet-David?

  To his credit, he's not ran on this.

• 45:24Speaker 05

  True.

• 45:25Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not ran on this. His team ran on this.

• 45:28Speaker 05

  Great point, great point.

• 45:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So there need, this is, this is the scene right here. His team ran on this. And Rob, I don't know if you're gonna, okay, is it right off the bat she says that? Yeah, right off the bat. Okay, play from the beginning.

• 45:39Speaker 11

  Would you declassify the 9/11 files?

• 45:41Speaker 12

  Yeah.

• 45:42Speaker 11

  Would you declassify JFK files?

• 45:44Speaker 12

  Yeah. I did, I did a lot of it.

• 45:46Speaker 11

  Would you declassify the Epstein files?

• 45:48Speaker 12

  Yeah, yeah, I would. Well, I guess I would. I think that less so because, you know, you don't know. You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there, because there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.

• 45:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. So, so to me, I get it.

• 46:02Speaker 03

  That's revealing too, in my, my view, and when you're talking about, like, for example, you call somebody a racist.

• 46:13Speaker 03

  They're basically saying they're evil, to me. There are certain things that you accuse people of, that it just, it will take them down hard. If, in the files, they have, and this is, I think, the point that Trump was making when he brought up, remember who put these files together? You know, four years, Biden Justice Department had all of it. Nobody even asked for them to release it. It was never an issue. And you could say, okay, well, Trump kinda half said he would release it, but then said, maybe not, because, so, because there might be innocent names in there. But then you look at the people that put it together. Maybe when they got to the bottom of it, and we'll find out, I think, over time.

• 46:58Speaker 03

  Um, maybe I'm just a little more patient than your average person. But maybe, maybe there are innocent people, maybe there are allegations in there. By the way, you're a pedophile. Okay, you're on the list. Now you have to defend yourself, but you're not a pedophile. What happens to that person's life? Falsely accused. I've seen that a lot in my life, too. Many times, to a lot of guys. I saw, when I met with those kids from Duke Lacrosse, I actually drove out to their house, and this is why I ended up being right, and everybody else was wrong. There were nearly a hundred professors at, at Duke, jumped on the bandwagon, they wanted to, they wanted these kids taken down. Those kids' lives are never gonna be the same. Richard Jewell's life was never the same.

• 47:42Speaker 03

  Darren Wilson left the police department, his career was ruined. Um, it's like, we are too quick to do that. Now, with all that said, there's no doubt in my mind that Epstein is a creep, a scumbag, a lowlife. Why is he though? Well, I mean, just what we know from the trial, the sweetheart deal that he got the first time.

• 48:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So what people want is, when you study this guy's lifestyle and what he did and how he made his money, and Lex Wechsler giving a $77 million most expensive private residence in Manhattan to him as a gift, when he gets $158 million consulting fee from Leon Black, when he has an 8,000 square foot property in New Mexico, that he was practicing eugenics and his DNA being transformed and passed on to different people. When you look at the, it's a lot of weird things with this guy. So, we can continue there, but the last thing I'll wrap up on this. By the way, when you're saying all that stuff, I agree, because Trevor Bauer's career in baseball was destroyed.

• 48:45Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Pasadena court by girl that lied, and no one in the MLB wants to sign this guy. And he could have gone a $250 million contract to $300 million contract, made some real money, he lost a few hundred million dollars because of a lie. Because of a lie, they destroyed this guy's potential on income. Now, he still loves the game so much that he's playing for nothing because of the love of the game, but this guy's dream was to play in baseball, it was entertaining to watch. So you're right, all that happens, I'll wrap up the last thing and we'll go to the next question.

• 49:14Speaker 03

  Let me ask you, is there anything you think I'm doing wrong? Anything that I'm saying?

• 49:20Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not at all. No, the only, the only reason, you know, when I'm, we've been podcasting for five years. We started this five years ago. My content was purely, I'm a business guy. I'm a business guy that grew up in Iran, that came up here and, you know, made his money, went to the US Army, got a, went into the stock market, became a stockbroker with Morgan Stanley, Dean Witter Building Insurance Company, sold it. But, in, as a financial advisor, when you're in it for 25 years, what you learn to do is a needs analysis every day. What is a needs analysis? A needs analysis, Mr. and Mrs. Jones, what is your income? What are your expenses? How much money do you have in a CD? What do you have in a 401K? What are you having a defined benefit? What are you having a 457? Do you have a 529 for your kids? How important is it for you to put your kids in a private school?

• 50:04Patrick Bet-David?

  How much money do you want to set aside for your kids to go to private school? Are you planning on paying for their school tuition or not? Are you planning on letting them go to community? Do you want to do a 50/50? Do you want to have some money for them to start a business? Do you not want to pay anything for them? At what age do you want to retire? How much income do you want to retire with? When you're programmed to just ask questions and then you go into podcasting? Your natural instinct is to constantly be asking questions because that's what you've been trained to do in financial services.

• 50:28Speaker 03

  Every question that you guys are asking is the right question.

• 50:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 50:30Speaker 03

  And I think we need answers.

• 50:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And so to me, to think when you're saying about Mossad and CIA, guys, the movie Argo came out 30 years after because CIA has a certain number of 30 years to not release and, you know, KGB guy comes out and he writes a book on what the KGB really did with the papers and who they controlled and who they planted different places for us to assume that we're gonna know right off the bat. We're being a little bit naive to think that we're gonna know everything about what it is.

• 50:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, because I was just gonna say, well, I want to make one correction because we're talking about the Bible. It's Matthew 8, chapter 18, verse 6. I said 8 and 6. Number one, but yeah, guys, if there are intelligence, like think about Mossad, what they did with the pagers and our CIA. They're very good, all of them, Sean, like making everybody guess and ask these questions. That's, that's, that's their job. But when we say rushing to judgment, Epstein was a pedophile convicted pervert since when? It's 25 years later. Why, why is Ghislaine Maxwell in, in jail? If, if there's no.

• 51:29Adam Sosnick?

  For trafficking young women.

• 51:30Speaker 05

  Where are the, where are the victims? I, I don't believe that there's a list, like there's a name, Bill Clinton, well, all these names. No, no. It's, what is she in jail for trafficking Adam? They're saying that he didn't do anything. All this stuff is all bullshit. Why is she in jail?

• 51:43Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody's saying that he didn't do anything.

• 51:44Speaker 05

  Well, what did she, why is she in jail for 20 years if there's no?

• 51:47Adam Sosnick?

  Why don't you pull up what she was charged with and convicted of?

• 51:49Speaker 05

  But, but here's my thing.

• 51:50Adam Sosnick?

  This doesn't have to be a mystery.

• 51:51Speaker 05

  One client, what, what is, what is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison for? And they're ready for this? Where's the customer? That's like arresting Sean for being a freaking drug kingpin and none of his clients are behind you.

• 52:01Adam Sosnick?

  Don't bring Sean Hannity into this.

• 52:03Speaker 05

  Sean sells weight. He sells cocaine. Sean sells cocaine.

• 52:07Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, just, you see how easy it is to make allegations?

• 52:10Speaker 03

  My life's just been ruined. I have to defend myself.

• 52:13Adam Sosnick?

  Now Sean Hannity has to defend himself. That's your BS allegations.

• 52:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to, I want to move on to the next part. We've already talked about what Ghislaine Maxwell.

• 52:19Speaker 03

  Can I ask one more question before we?

• 52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 52:21Speaker 03

  I mean, do we all kind of agree?

• 52:24Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 52:24Speaker 03

  That what? That, at the end of the day, there are unanswered questions. Maybe I'm just a little bit more willing to let this play out.

• 52:33Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you're the very few that actually has patience. And maybe not rush to judgment.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  But you know what taught me that?

• 52:40Adam Sosnick?

  Because most people have already made up their mind.

• 52:41Speaker 03

  I'm telling you what taught me that. When I talked to Richard Jewell, got one of the first interviews with him. Comes on and he says, "You were the only one in the media that gave me the benefit of the doubt." That changed my life forever. And I learned, you know what? It's pretty powerful what I'm doing in the sense that it can impact people's lives. That lesson has served me well. That long list I gave, it wasn't to brag or to be brag... It wasn't, I promise you it wasn't. It was just to explain my methods, the way I approach things. I mean, I'm listening to Mr. Financial Advisor over here and I'm like, "Holy shit." He's a genius. I'm like, "All right, I got 15 questions now about my financial future."

• 53:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but I appreciate what you're saying. However, I want to follow up on this. Okay, so you've been at Fox 30, okay? O'Reilly was there 20. I don't know how long he was there. Well, let's just say, give or take 20, right? Tucker was there for a number, Megyn Kelly was there for a number of years.

• 53:43Patrick Bet-David?

  From the outside watching now, Bill O'Reilly does a lot of stuff with News Nation, Cuomo. You know, we've had him on.

• 53:50Speaker 03

  He's on my radio show once a week.

• 53:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I actually love hearing what he has to say. Because again, he's another one of these OGs. When he talks, I'm kind of trying to hear to say, "What's he saying?" Because he sometimes takes a different angle than everybody else. How are you processing what Tucker is doing? Because Tucker has taken certain positions when it comes down to Israel. When it comes down to Epstein. When it comes down to certain interviews he's done. When it comes down to, you know, what he feels is different. A lot of it may be seen as controversial, maybe to folks at Fox. How do you view the positions that Tucker has taken the last couple of years?

• 54:27Speaker 03

  You know, all of us are making a pretty good living because of the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I said earlier... Broadcasting is not a zero-sum game. My success is not due to somebody else's failure or, or success. And it's based on what I do. But whether what you say I agree with or I disagree with, and I have heard things that all the people you mentioned have said. And Bill O'Reilly's been on my radio show and we'll disagree on a topic. Um, but at the end of the day, I kinda, that is the biggest glass of water I've ever seen in my life. What, what the hell is that? Just wanna make sure we don't run out of water.

• 55:12Speaker 03

  Apparently not. There's, there's a threat of... Here, if you need a little more, help me. Bring some... What is... It's a Stein. Right, exactly. The coldest to finish is by the end of the podcast. So, at the end of the day is, you know, let the people decide. And I respect the fact that we live in a great country where you're gonna give your opinion and then the public will judge you for it. The one thing that I think is critical for success is that you be genuine and sincere and not manufactured or phony or fake. And if you stay true to who you are, I believe, oh, you just put the coke, he just put cocaine in it. I told you, I told him, Sean. This is yours. You sold...

• 55:56Speaker 03

  High quality from... Which you sold, which you sold to me, you're the distributor and I... From Sean Hannity's property in Columbia, which we consider a medine. Did you see LJ, who was on Fox and Friends the other morning? They were talking about Coca-Cola and pure cane sugar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Mexican Coke. Who said this? LJ, Lawrence Jones. Oh, my God. I love, I love Mexican Coke. And then Ainsley and Brian are looking at him and he goes, "No, I really do love Mexican Coke." It's like, went right over the head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a funny moment. But back to your, your question. On Tucker. Don't you respect, aren't we blessed, when you think about it? We live in a country where you can have any opinion.

• 56:41Speaker 03

  I do, and... And then you either, you build an audience based on whether or not enough people wanna hear what you have to say. But some of the positions Tucker's taken would be a different kind of... I disagree with him. Okay, so... He's, for example, he interviewed some historian...

• 56:56Speaker 03

  And making it, and this has kinda gone a little viral. I don't care that he has a different view than me. I just don't care. I mean, he had a different view about Iran and the nuclear sites than I did. I don't care that he does. I have to be true to who I am. And he had a historian, and there's this narrative that's been making the rounds that, you know, Winston Churchill, blood, toil, tears, and sweat, you know. What is our aim? Victory. I love Winston Churchill. That somehow, well, it's not the best thing that we won World War II. Now, my father spent four years in the Pacific,

• 57:37Speaker 03

  by the way, and it wasn't the best life, and he grew up very, very poor. But to me, Winston Churchill was one of the most heroic people in our time. It's just a disagreement. You wanna have a different opinion, fine. But the argument is, well, Western civilization has not thrived since then, and that Europe has declined since then. My answer to that would be Ronald Reagan, who said, you know, freedom is only one generation away from extinction. And so, yeah, Winston Churchill was the hero of World War II to me, and I would argue

• 58:18Speaker 03

  with the historian guess that he had. But guess what, Patrick Bedd, David, you know what? You live in a free country. Express your views. If that's what you think, express it.

• 58:28Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think about what Tucker is doing these days? This might be a controversial opinion on Tucker, but to me, he's sort of masquerading and cosplaying as a populist, when he's almost like the elite, he's sort of basically saying, I'm anti-establishment. There's, you know, we say one of one. He's one of one. Tom Brady is one of one. Michael Jordan is one of one. Tucker's also one of one. Cause he's the only person, you've been at Fox News 30 years, that's had his own Main show on cable, Fox, CNN, MSNBC. So it's almost like he's syndicating his views all over mainstream of being like, "Oh, shucks, I'm just a little old huckleberry here in khakis and a bowtie, chewing my dip. I don't know nothing about nothing."

• 59:13Adam Sosnick?

  It's like, you know the establishment better than anybody, Tucker. And now you're like, "Oh, I'm anti-establishment. I'm being counterculture." What are your thoughts on that?

• 59:21Speaker 03

  You know, I'm not, first of all, I'm not following it that closely. I'm too wrapped up in my own world, my own opinions, my own shows. My answer to you is, I've never had a problem with any of the people that you mentioned. And, you know, there used to be a time where at Fox, it was, there was a lot of tension between hosts. For me, that's just evaporated. I wish everybody the best. If you listen to the people that you mentioned, I've heard every one of them say that they are happier than they've ever been doing what they're doing now. I'm happy doing what I'm doing now. They made their career choices. I made my career choices. And I'm happy with mine. And I honestly, truly, sincerely wish everybody the best.

• 1:00:02Speaker 03

  I'm not, I'm not in this intramural, you know, my life is dependent on what somebody else says. I don't care.

• 1:00:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you speak to Tucker at all, or no? Do you guys have a relationship?

• 1:00:11Speaker 03

  You know, yeah. Once, I reached out to him when his father died, you know, just to wish him prayers. And we had one little exchange over just a stupid issue. But it was very friendly. We never, we have never, we have never had a problem. What's up?

• 1:00:30Adam Sosnick?

  Are you guys more friends or colleagues?

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  We're not friends in as much as like, I'm friends with Mark Levin. Thank me. God bless us. That's it. I'm done. So, you're not laughing at my invitations. This is not good. I'm bombing on your show.

• 1:00:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That was actually better than the previous one. The Mark Levin was better than Churchill.

• 1:00:48Speaker 03

  Why don't you really try my trial?

• 1:00:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Every once in a while, Tom will do a impersonation and when he does, he gets it good about one out of 10 times.

• 1:00:55Speaker 03

  Who does?

• 1:00:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom over there. He does, he does a good impersonation. I did my best.

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  Who's your best?

• 1:01:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Bill Clinton, probably.

• 1:01:01Speaker 03

  I want to say to all the hot chicks here in the audience that if you want a tour backstage, I'll be glad to give it to you.

• 1:01:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I think, I think you all have misunderstood and all the prosecution against me. I just have three words to defend myself. That's my wife.

• 1:01:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's, that's it for you. I think you got you on that one. Okay, let me get to the next story. Let me get to the next story.

• 1:01:21Speaker 05

  What are you, the druggie? He's not a frigging...

• 1:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, then relax, buddy.

• 1:01:25Speaker 03

  It's all good. I think I like my Winston Churchill.

• 1:01:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I liked it. It was good.

• 1:01:29Speaker 03

  Blood, toil, tears and sweat.

• 1:01:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I like Levin more. I like Mark Levin more.

• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  You want my real Mark Levin?

• 1:01:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:38Speaker 03

  Alright, here's Mark Levin. Imagine if Kamala Harris won the last election, right? This would be the next episode of Life, Liberty and Levin.

• 1:01:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, this is an aneurysm coming, right?

• 1:01:48Speaker 03

  Pretty much. Yeah, it is. You dumb bastards. You just ruined the country. The Constitution's a shit. This is, I cannot believe how stupid you all are. That's it. I'm done.

• 1:02:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Speaking of Tucker, did you hear about the offer that PBD made to Tucker?

• 1:02:05Speaker 03

  No, what'd you do?

• 1:02:06Patrick Bet-David?

  This was a few years ago. This was a while back, though.

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  What was the offer?

• 1:02:09Patrick Bet-David?

  We, we...

• 1:02:10Speaker 03

  You got like a million podcasters underneath this umbrella, right?

• 1:02:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, we, we, we, we made an offer a while back. But that was, that was a four, three years, Tom, what was it? Three years ago or two years ago? Two years ago. When did it leave? May 2022? Two weeks, two weeks after he left.

• 1:02:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Two years.

• 1:02:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Was it two years or three? Remember, he took a break, then we found out he was over in... We made a, we made a hundred million dollar offer for five years. That was one year ago. What's this? It can't be a...

• 1:02:36Speaker 03

  Now that was an update.

• 1:02:37Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why he turned it down. Two years ago.

• 1:02:39Speaker 03

  What's your offer to me? We're negotiating a deal.

• 1:02:43Adam Sosnick?

  But looking back at it, I mean, maybe you want to get Hannity's take on this.

• 1:02:47Patrick Bet-David?

  One Tucker left box.

• 1:02:48Adam Sosnick?

  Are you glad that he didn't, that he said no?

• 1:02:51Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I think, I think there's certain, there's, there's two ways you have to look at talent. And I look at it in two different ways. Okay? One of the ways that you look at it is credibility and trust of what they say the market believes. Two, their credit score. How often are they right? How often are they wrong? Three, the risks they're willing to take, a position that others are not willing to take. It's a very massive risk. He takes risks.

• 1:03:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Four, you know, the, the ability to handle yourself and be battle tested. Most guys cannot be battle tested. This thing sucks to, to be in the fire. This is why I think, deep down inside, I called this three years ago. I think Tucker may want to run in 2028. And I think Tucker's maybe positioned himself to do something in 2028. I don't know. Uh, I see you say Churchill, wasn't he a journalist before? Wasn't he in that space before he went out there and ran? And Tucker's background's very interesting that maybe one day he runs. You know, I don't know.

• 1:03:52Adam Sosnick?

  Not when they get a, not when he does that laugh on stage, it's over. Howard Dean had to, I think, end his campaign because he said, yeah.

• 1:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy went.

• 1:04:00Adam Sosnick?

  When did you see Tucker's laugh?

• 1:04:01Speaker 03

  It was Howard Dean's, I have a scream speech.

• 1:04:04Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy went to Turning Point USA. This guy went to Turning Point USA, okay? And called out Israel and got a cheer at Turning Point USA. One, that's a risky position to take. Two.

• 1:04:18Adam Sosnick?

  Not these days.

• 1:04:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, not necessarily not these days to go to Turning Point USA.

• 1:04:22Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, don't BS. Half of Turning Point was excited when he said that.

• 1:04:26Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not necessarily.

• 1:04:27Adam Sosnick?

  No?

• 1:04:28Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 1:04:28Adam Sosnick?

  That's why they cheered.

• 1:04:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what I'm trying to tell you is, two years ago, that would have never happened. The climate has changed and people are processing information in a different way. I'm not playing this. All I'm saying is the fact that the climate has changed and he's taken some positions. If it doesn't work out for him, it's a massive drop off. That's why there's the risk and that's why, you know, it's risky to take some positions. Adam, I'm moving on, on a different story. So you can have that conversation.

• 1:04:55Speaker 03

  Saying shut up.

• 1:04:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's, it's a nice way of saying.

• 1:04:57Adam Sosnick?

  All the different languages.

• 1:04:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's go to the next.

• 1:04:59Speaker 03

  Does the same thing to me. She goes daddy. Okay, uh, all right, love you. Love you means goodbye. I'm hanging up now.

• 1:05:06Patrick Bet-David?

  PBD, love you. Go on, sir. Okay, all right, so let me go to the next story. The next story I want to go to is somebody that maybe indirectly announcing his 2028 presidency and campaign. And this is somebody that you may be very supportive of, very excited about. Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden just did a show this last week.

• 1:05:26Speaker 03

  This tape is gold. Just spend the rest of the podcast and play it on loop. Just keep playing it.

• 1:05:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, which one is this? This is which one?

• 1:05:34Speaker 06

  So I have four clips. I have Hunter Biden talking about illegal immigrants and who's gonna clean your hotel room and wash your dishes. I also have where he explains whose cocaine was found in the White House. There's also a clip of Hunter Biden talking about the differences between crack and crack cocaine.

• 1:05:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it matters.

• 1:05:51Speaker 06

  We also have Joe Biden's poor debate performance due to sleeping pills.

• 1:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to the one that I put up on Twitter where he curses 15 times in a span of a minute 10?

• 1:06:00Speaker 06

  I think that's this one, George Clooney and Jake Tapper.

• 1:06:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Go for it.

• 1:06:04Speaker 13

  But fuck him. Fuck him and everybody around him. Not to be fucking nice, number one, I agree with Quentin Tarantino. Fucking George Clooney is not a fucking actor. He is a fucking, like, I don't know what he is. He's a brand. And by the way, and God bless him. You know what? He supposedly treats his friends really well. You know what I mean? Buys them things. And he's got a really great place in Lake Como and he's great friends with Barack Obama. Fuck you. What do you have to do with fucking anything? Why do I have to fucking listen to you? What right do you have to step on a man who's given 52 years of his fucking life to the services of this country and decide that you, George Clooney, are gonna take out basically a full-page ad in the fucking New York Times to me and

• 1:06:48Speaker 13

  James Carville, who hasn't run a race in 40 fucking years, and David Axelrod, who had one success in his political life, and that was Barack Obama. And that was because of Barack Obama, not because of fucking David Axelrod. And David Plouffe, and all of these guys, and the Pod Save America guys, who were junior fucking speechwriters in, you know, on Barack Obama's Senate staff, who have been dining out on the relationship with him for years, making millions of dollars. The Anita Duns of the world, who's made 40, 50 million dollars off the Democratic Party. They're all gonna insert their judgment over a man who has figured out, unlike anybody else, how to get elected to the United States Senate over seven times. How to pass more legislation than any president in history.

• 1:07:32Speaker 13

  How to have a better midterm election than anybody in history.

• 1:07:35Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a different clip than the one on Twitter that I had. It's a different one, but Tom, how do you process this? Like, you know, how do you process a guy that has been quiet? All of a sudden comes out, drops F-bombs. It's as if like his dad finally gave him permission to be himself and he no longer has to worry about dad saying, "Don't curse that much, don't do crack, don't do cocaine. Be careful, don't sleep with your brother's wife. These are bad things to do, son. These are not good things to do." And he finally feels free. How do you process this yourself?

• 1:08:02Tom Ellsworth?

  This, I don't know how anybody processes Hunter Biden, although I'd like to see the clip where he's a drug sommelier. That's sort of interesting. I think that's sort of on brand and believable. No, you know what's funny? Not under the influence of drugs, apparently, apparently sober. He comes out as like this angry independent. It's kind of shocking. It's like, wait a minute, this is such a, it's like your brain's trying to process seven non sequiturs in a row. It's like, wait a minute, do you really feel that way? Or are you just angry? He sounds like a sobered up, angry bitter guy that says, "How dare do all these people undermine my dad?" Because the whole point gets down to it, to 50, take one, this many senate elections and then I did this and passed as much legislation and got this through the midterm. That's what I see.

• 1:08:46Tom Ellsworth?

  I see an angry son who manages to sober up, sit down with a podcaster out in the yard and just kind of cut loose. That's what I see.

• 1:08:54Speaker 05

  I wouldn't, by the way, he's saying he's sober. I would pay money and bet a lot of money that he definitely-

• 1:09:00Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't look like he's on drugs. He just looks like he drinks a lot of water with vitamin C.

• 1:09:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly. Very, very healthy.

• 1:09:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Allegedly sober.

• 1:09:07Speaker 05

  But you know, but Sean, you know, when I see this-

• 1:09:08Tom Ellsworth?

  More sober than we've seen him in other clips. So just leave it there.

• 1:09:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, but you know what I see when I see this, Sean? I see a guy whose daddy pardoned him for crimes going back, how long? How many years? You actually tweeted something like that, right? That's a guy that says, "You know what? I can do what I want, I can say what I want and who's gonna do it? The party's done."

• 1:09:24Tom Ellsworth?

  2014, I think is the year.

• 1:09:26Speaker 05

  2014, the party, the party's done. Okay, this is just an example of what the hell is going on. And for all the kids out there, this is what doing drugs and doing crack does to your freaking brain. He looks very, very rough, but when you know you have a get out of jail free card, he could say anything. He could say literally, "I did this with my father, I did all this with China, I smoked the drugs. All the footage of all the girls and all the stuff that I did, weighing crack cocaine, I did it. And what are you gonna do about it?" That's his attitude.

• 1:09:51Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you see it?

• 1:09:52Speaker 05

  You know, it's, um-

• 1:09:54Speaker 03

  He's a very angry man, I'll put it that way. Yeah. He should be the happiest guy on earth because I think he was in deep trouble. I spent a lot of time dealing with him. Zero experience Hunter, that's my nickname for him. I mean, when he went on Good Morning America and they say, well, do you have any experience in energy? No. Oil? No. Gas? No. Okay, you're getting paid, you know, hundred, millions and millions of dollars with no experience. Then the CEFC, the Chinese Energy Conglomerate, and the WhatsApp message. All of this money, James Comer says it's 20 to 30 million dollars that they got in. No experience, problem. They got away with it to me and from my liking, I'm not too happy about it.

• 1:10:39Speaker 03

  But preemptive pardon or not, I don't think it's gonna matter. Here's the interesting part though, is that even though he got that pardon, he can be brought in before the, you know, House Oversight Committee, and he could be put under oath. He can't plead the fifth because he got the pardon. So now we'd have to talk. Oh, wait. I'd like that. You can't plead the fifth because you got the pardon? Correct. Is that the exchange you make? That's it. Or is that, is that the law? That, he cannot go before that committee and plead the fifth. Why? Anybody that got the pardon. I don't know why, I mean, James Comer confirmed it to me on my show. Really? That's very interesting.

• 1:11:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Because the Fifth Amendment says I am not compelled or required to incriminate myself by stating these things. And so because you can't, you don't have to in our justice system to be a witness against yourself. You don't have to, that's part of what the Fifth Amendment is. So the founding fathers envisioned, let's use a hypothetical example, that the British would come over here and still be really pissed off, just hypothetically. And start putting you in leg irons and chains and squeezing your bones and, and, and breaking your fingers to get you to testify because the king was upset. And when they put all this together, that's where, that's where torture, unreasonable, you know, unreasonable imprisonment and torture clause in our constitution, and that's where the-

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• 1:12:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Fifth came from? It all came from, you know, sitting back and saying, we're not going to live in a criminal justice system where you are tortured to confess or you have to, um, you know, testify against yourself. That's what the fifth is. But now you've been given a pardon. Okay, we've been given a pardon, so there is no self-incrimination here, Pat. None. Who told you that door was unlocked? And who told you that box of papers was there? You can't now take the fifth on that. You say, well, those documents were... You gotta talk.

• 1:13:29Speaker 03

  Here's one. You want to throw another monkey in the wrench there?

• 1:13:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Please.

• 1:13:34Speaker 03

  Here's the interesting part. If you read the New York Times piece on the auto pen issue, and basically we learned that Biden only set down criteria for commutation and pardons, but didn't make the specific decision. And then the decision to put it through the auto pen was not made by him, which if is all true, and hopefully we'll get to the bottom of that, too. Again, all the, all these issues we talk about, you, we want answers tomorrow. Um, but it'll take an investigation, but it might invalidate commutations and pardons. That would be interesting.

• 1:14:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That would be extremely interesting. So Rob, can you play the next clip on the one on Twitter that I had where he's talking about if I was the president? There's a clip of, of, uh, uh, he actually says, let's just say if I run in 20, say three, two years, three years, I don't know, five years. That's the clip right there, Rob. Just play that clip.

• 1:14:29Speaker 13

  And he's somehow convinced all of us that these people are the fucking criminals? White men in America are 45 more times likely to commit a fucking violent crime than an immigrant. And the media says, well, you got David Axelrod and, you know, Rahm fucking Emanuel. So, so fucking smart Rahm Emanuel. He said, we gotta understand that these people are really mad.

• 1:14:50Patrick Bet-David?

  This is gold.

• 1:14:51Speaker 13

  We gotta appeal to these white voters. Rahm, the only people that fucking appealed to those fucking white voters was Joe Biden, 81 years old. And he got 81 million votes and he did because, not because he appeased their fucking Trumpian sense, but because he challenged it. And he said, you can be an 81-year-old Catholic from fucking Scranton that doesn't understand it, but still has empathy for transgender people and immigrants. Then nobody said, oh, Joe Biden's gonna turn us into a socialist state, no matter how much they said it. But these guys think that we need to run away from all values in order for us to lead. I say fuck you. How are we getting those people back from fucking El Salvador? Because I'll tell you what, if I became president in two years from now, or four years from now, or three years from now,

• 1:15:35Speaker 13

  I would pick up the phone and call the fucking president in El Salvador and say, you either fucking send them back or I'm gonna fucking invade. Oh my god. It's a fucking crime what they're doing. He's a fucking dictator thug. Bukele or Trump? Wow. Both. Both.

• 1:15:50Adam Sosnick?

  Let me tell you something about this mother effing guy. This, this guy effing needs his own effing podcast immediately. I can't look away. This is a train wreck, uh, wrapped in a mystery, wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in a crackhead. And we're gonna need a little bit more of this, Hannity. What I also am reading from this situation right here is he's clinging and defending his father's legacy. It's very clear here when he says Rahm Emanuel, where it says George Clooney, where he says, fucking David Axelrod, this piece of shit, bro. Biden didn't want to leave. And we all think that it's Joe Biden who's basically saying, no, honey, you did great. Don't you think Hunter would have been like, you fucking get in there, Joe Biden, and you fucking keep killing it for this country and fuck. Like, he's angry here, clearly.

• 1:16:33Speaker 13

  By the way.

• 1:16:34Adam Sosnick?

  And they took the rug out of his family.

• 1:16:36Speaker 13

  What about the bullshit over Ambien?

• 1:16:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:39Speaker 13

  My father took an Ambien. Now, it just so happens.

• 1:16:42Adam Sosnick?

  Before the debate?

• 1:16:43Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:16:43Adam Sosnick?

  I'm about to start this podcast.

• 1:16:49Adam Sosnick?

  What are you doing?

• 1:16:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this it, Rob?

• 1:16:52Speaker 13

  Yes, sir.

• 1:16:52Adam Sosnick?

  Good night.

• 1:16:53Patrick Bet-David?

  This was just pure gold. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:16:55Speaker 13

  It's all gold. I'll tell you what, I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew around the world, basically, the mileage that he could have flown around the world three times. Yeah. He's 81 years old, he's tired as shit, they give him Ambien to be able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and he looks like he's a deer in the headlights. And it feeds into every fucking story that anybody wants to tell. And Jake Tapper with literally, how many anonymous sources? If this was a conspiracy, Andrew, you know this, somehow, the entirety of a White House, in which you're literally living on top of each other, has kept their mouths shut about, you know, like what? And what's conspiracy? Yeah. That Joe Biden got old? Yeah, he got old. He got old before our eyes.

• 1:17:37Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, you know why he's full of it? Do you remember before the debate, there was a one-week vacation, right on the, Biden was literally laying on the beach, he wasn't taking Ambien, he was rested, exactly, he was rested. I will not sit here and have you slander. Hunter Biden, he would never tell a lie in his life.

• 1:17:54Speaker 05

  Never. He's a truth, he's a truth teller.

• 1:17:56Adam Sosnick?

  Have you ever interviewed Hunter Biden?

• 1:17:58Speaker 13

  No, but I offered him last night, an hour on TV and three hours on radio, I'd give him 10.

• 1:18:04Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 1:18:05Speaker 05

  You go home.

• 1:18:06Speaker 13

  I could just play that on a loop for the next week, I think it'll rate.

• 1:18:09Tom Ellsworth?

  You could take the summer off and just run clips.

• 1:18:12Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:18:12Speaker 03

  You know, what infuriates me, though, on a serious note about this, is... The most preventable national security disaster happened because of his father. And he's talking about all these people that do all these work for all these Americans. Okay, for people that do have money. And I spent the early part of my adult life with no money and living paycheck to paycheck. And during that time of my life, I was cutting my own lawn, washing my own dishes, cleaning my own clothes, and I would argue that's what most of the country does. So, you know, this idea that, oh, we're taking away jobs. What the Left never does on the issue of immigration, which infuriates me, the most preventable national security disaster ever.

• 1:18:56Speaker 03

  We have known terrorists, assassination squads in the country, we got murderers, rapists, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members. How come they never talk about that on the Left? How come they never talk about, you know, Lake and Riley? You don't have a heart, a conscience, or a soul, in my view. If you're at a joint session speech of a president and Democrats can't stand for the family of Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungary, I interviewed Jocelyn Nungary's mother. I know Rachel Morin's mother, mother of five. But you think of all of these people, they never talk about it, ever. 12, 20 million, we don't actually know the real number.

• 1:19:39Speaker 03

  All I know is, they did it, they lied about it, just like they lied about his cognitive state, like they lied about the economy. You know, you go back, yeah, okay, I want to have these, I want to talk about Epstein, I want to talk about all these other issues, but man, what's happened in six months as of Sunday compared to where we were a year ago, and it was about six, it was about a year ago when Trump, you know, nearly got assassinated, came within a millimeter losing his life. What a difference six months makes, what a difference a year makes. So it's infuriating that that part does not get talked about.

• 1:20:17Adam Sosnick?

  They want to address it because it'll ruin the narrative. Why would you mess up my opinions with facts, sir?

• 1:20:22Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:20:23Adam Sosnick?

  Why would you do something like that?

• 1:20:24Speaker 05

  Was it the State of the Union, Sean? It was the same one where, you know, Lincoln O'Reilly's family and all them. And then the real testament, besides that, which I've been speaking about that forever, DJ Daniel, the little black kid, the 13-year-old black kid that had cancer not six times? Not one of them could stand for this. I was, I'm bawling and they're just sitting there like this, not clapping for that kid.

• 1:20:44Adam Sosnick?

  You don't even have to stand, just clap.

• 1:20:45Speaker 05

  Clap for the kid, give a snack.

• 1:20:47Speaker 03

  How cool is that when Sean Curran made him a Secret Service agent?

• 1:20:51Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 1:20:52Speaker 03

  Because that's his dream.

• 1:20:52Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 1:20:53Speaker 03

  Want to know the sad part of this? Up to that point, he had to beat cancer. Apparently, he had a recurrence. He has another one. Pray for this kid. Yeah, wow. He has cancer again.

• 1:21:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I want to go to the next story. So Tulsi Gabbard calls for Obama to be prosecuted over 2016 election claims. This is DNI, obviously, we know Tulsi and what she's done. Here's what she had to say on Fox. Go ahead, Rob, play the clip.

• 1:21:13Speaker 14

  This over 100 documents that you're referencing that I've released, declassified and released, spells out in great detail exactly what happens when you have some of the most powerful people in our country directly at, leading at the helm, President Obama and his senior-most national security cabinet, James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper and Susan Rice and others, essentially making a very intentional decision to create this manufactured politicized piece of intelligence with the objective of subverting the will of the American people,

• 1:21:53Speaker 14

  who in November of 2016 delivered a historic victory to President Trump, defeating Hillary Clinton. And President Obama and his team, their goal was to essentially not accept the decision of the American people and to use this manufactured politicized intelligence as a means to enact what would become essentially a years-long coup against President Trump. You have gone into great detail. ...detail over these years of what the effects of this document and this decision have resulted in. Obviously, years-long Mueller investigation that cost taxpayers almost $40 million, two congressional impeachments, endless smears and attacks against not only President Trump,

• 1:22:38Speaker 14

  but his family. He had senior members of his team who were investigated, some arrested and jailed. We had heightened...

• 1:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Sean, what is new about this that we don't already know? What's the big deal about this?

• 1:22:51Speaker 03

  Okay, so, everybody wants documents that were deeply buried and hidden. Here you got it. And if you do a deep dive into it, and I have, and I'm very familiar with the issue because that goes to the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. It goes to the double standard when it comes to top-secret classified documents. It goes to Hillary Clinton's bought-and-paid-for dirty Russian disinformation dossier, which they knew was phony. Comey signed three of the four FISA warrants. The bulk of information came from that. So, what these documents show, and I think the most intriguing thing in what Tulsi was

• 1:23:29Speaker 03

  communicating to me in that interview, is that rank-and-file career intelligence people made assessments about 2016 and Russia's involvement in the election and whether they tried to influence it. Their conclusion was, no. And it was clear-cut, specific quotes you can pull out, you can extrapolate out, and you'll find it. And then, as it made its way up the chain, and we talk a lot about a deep state, as we make our way to Clapper and to Brennan and to others, Comey, they actually took

• 1:24:11Speaker 03

  what documents have said one thing, they polluted it, they corrupted it, they turned it on its head. To come up with this whole phony Russia collusion narrative, right? Now, we know that in December of 2016, that they had already determined that the Hillary Clinton dossier was no good. They got rid of Christopher Steele, pushed him out, although they kind of kept him in in some ways. But even as early as August of 2016, Bruce Ohr, interestingly enough, because his wife, Nellie, was part of this, you know, said, "Don't use this information because it's political in nature."

• 1:24:51Speaker 03

  So where this is headed towards, and we got information last week, it does get a little deep in the weeds, but where I think this is headed is you have this grand conspiracy investigation that Cash Patel announced that he was getting involved in. What does that mean? Okay, so did they purposefully knowingly use a Russian dirty dossier to ruin the life of one guy named Carter Page, but also backed outdoor spy on candidate Trump, later transition team Trump, later President Trump? That would have gone on for a year.

• 1:25:31Speaker 03

  Comey already knew, Mr. Higherhonor himself, Comey already knew that he shouldn't be using it, but he signed three of the four FISA warrants, okay, because you have to renew it every three months. Then it's the issue of what he said in July of 2016, "No reasonable prosecutor will prosecute." Then you have Joe Biden later in 2020, and then that issue comes up. He has four locations, top secret classified information, but only Mar-a-Lago gets raided. So in 2016, you're looking about, looking at whether they specifically used phony information as a means of creating a narrative to hurt Donald Trump, also favoring Hillary Clinton on information that probably would have gotten Donald Trump indicted.

• 1:26:16Speaker 03

  And then what they did with that information, how they corrupted it. And then you could take it after Trump wins in 16. Then there's this meeting in January, early January of 2017, before Donald Trump becomes president. And in that meeting is Comey and Brennan, I believe Clapper, Joe Biden and Barack Obama. Susan Rice, in the final minutes...

• 1:26:43Speaker 03

  As the national security advisor at the time, in the final minutes before Donald Trump is about to be sworn in, she writes a memo about a meeting weeks earlier. And she says, Barack Obama said, "Do everything by the book." Comey said, "Do everything by the book." It was obviously, to me, a CYA memo.

• 1:27:03Adam Sosnick?

  That's right.

• 1:27:04Speaker 03

  Okay, so, that's the grand conspiracy. Now, all right, now move to 2020. So, they knew, everybody knew in March of 2020 that the Hunter Biden laptop was very real. They had corroborated its authenticity. This is the timeline. Now, interestingly, through the summer of 2020, they were meeting weekly with every big tech company. And I would argue, pre-bunking, they were telling them, be on the lookout for Russian disinformation. It may be about Hunter, it may be about Burisma. Burisma, it might be about Joe Biden. And so, the meeting weekly with all of these companies, Twitter and Facebook at the time, now Meta, and they're meeting all these big tech companies.

• 1:27:48Speaker 03

  So, but, they knew also that Rudy Giuliani's attorney, Bob Costello, had a copy of the laptop. He had gotten a copy, they knew he had a copy. They had validated its authenticity in March of 2020. Again, they're pre-bunking it all throughout the summer. Boom, October. New York Post drops the story. It came from Bob Costello, Rudy's attorney. They knew it was gonna happen. Here's the most interesting part to me. And that is, that I know for a fact, Mark Zuckerberg, I know for a fact, Jack Dorsey at the time, who was running Twitter, they called the FBI and they were asking, "Is this what you were warning us about, or was it true?"

• 1:28:33Speaker 03

  They knew the answer, they knew it was authentic, they knew it was very real, and they just flat out wouldn't tell them. Then, in comes, before a debate with Donald Trump, "Joe Biden needs a talking point, this is huge news, laptop from hell." And then, in comes...

• 1:28:51Speaker 03

  You know, the 51 former intel officials, and they just know nothing, absolutely nothing about that laptop. They didn't examine the laptop, and, oh, and they all say the same thing. By the way, organized by Wink and Tony Blinken. So Blinken then becomes Secretary of State. This is the deep state stuff that people don't think is real. It is so real. And they organize them. Not one person examines the laptop. Now, a story that would have crushed Joe Biden in 2020. If they validated, the FBI did its job, they had already successfully prebunked it, but when it came out, if they would have said, yeah, we have, you know,

• 1:29:31Speaker 03

  it's authentic, we authenticated it back in March of 2020. So, the grand conspiracy is what they did in 16, what they did in 20, and what they did in 2024 in terms of all of the lawfare and weaponization against Donald Trump. Look, take the case of Alvin Bragg. If you have a legal nondisclosure agreement, I know you have many. I'm kidding. But you take a legal, every, I guarantee you the DA's office in Manhattan probably has more than we could ever count. Right? Okay. Very common companies, common practice, legal

• 1:30:11Speaker 03

  NDA, put together by a lawyer, labeled a legal expense, becomes a novel legal theory, which, which results in, even though the statute of limitations have passed, 34 counts against Donald Trump. Federal counts. Okay. Never should have happened. Never. So, what Cash is doing, he's looking at 2016, 2020, 2024. Now, in a lot of these cases, the statute of limitations have passed. You listen to the legal experts, Greg Jarrett, other people that will tell you that because it's a grand conspiracy, statute of limitations don't apply. And if they don't apply, it's going to be whether or not these people at the highest level of government, knowing all of the secrets, purposely manipulated.

• 1:30:58Speaker 03

  The American people to get an electoral outcome that they wanted. That's where the investigation is going.

• 1:31:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Will anything happen to Obama?

• 1:31:07Speaker 03

  Don't know. I have no idea. I do, I do. Listen, Susan Rice's memo is pretty revealing. Barack Obama said, "Do everything by the book. You're on your way out the door. You got a minute and a half to do it, to get out the door before Trump is now president and you're done." Why would you do it when that meeting took place weeks ago? The only reason I can think of is you want to cover your ass. And it never made sense at the time. I reported it at the time. And I thought it was a bizarre thing. Now, some people might say, if I didn't spend three long years on Russia, Russia, if I didn't spend so much time on the dirty dossier, if I didn't spend so much time, you know,

• 1:31:48Speaker 03

  doing deep dives into FISA applications, Hunter Biden's laptop, if, you know, all the, all the weaponization that took place against Trump. Listen, this is the amazing story of Trump, and then I'll shut up. I feel like I'm talking too much. The amazing thing is, as we were heading into this election, you had a guy, nearly lost his life, put it, put everything he had on the line, and it was either going to be the White House or it was going to be the big house. No option. That, those were his choices. And he decided to, quote, "Fight, fight, fight." He did. The American people, and this is why I say legacy media,

• 1:32:29Speaker 03

  this is, this is great for you guys. This is great for new media. This is great for anybody that tells their audience truth. This is great for people, you know, the criteria that you laid out for successful people in media, which I thought mostly was pretty dead on.

• 1:32:45Speaker 03

  Is that for those people that do news, information, opinion, tell the truth, get it right, take chances, are courageous, all those adjectives you used.

• 1:32:57Speaker 03

  Those are things that will lead to success. The reason that I say that the, I said in 2007, journalism's dead. I said after this election, the legacy media, they are dead. It's gone. They're never coming back. I'll give you an example. I'm on for two hours the night of the attack on, on the nuclear facilities in Iran. We beat ABC, CBS, NBC, MSDNC, and Fake News CNN combined. I was on two hours that night, combined. We beat them all. Smoked them.

• 1:33:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:33:34Speaker 03

  And, and on a regular basis, Fox News primetime, my biggest challenge at the nine o'clock hour is, my audience also likes sports. Don't watch sports if I'm on. You can DVR the rest of the game. Although I love my Florida Panthers. I'm a big Florida Panthers fan. We went to all the games. All right, well, you're gonna go on me because I have season's tickets.

• 1:33:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you really?

• 1:33:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:33:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, seriously?

• 1:33:56Speaker 03

  At the Ameren Arena.

• 1:33:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, very cool.

• 1:33:59Adam Sosnick?

  We're going in the head, sweet ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:34:01Patrick Bet-David?

  A good friend of ours, Felix, is a sponsor. You'll see finally, shout out to those guys, great, great family. So we, we went to the game and we had a chance. Bunch of people were there. Vince Vaughn, we saw Gretzky.

• 1:34:14Speaker 05

  Oh, we got the food, we saw Gretzky.

• 1:34:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Kids went downstairs and we saw the players.

• 1:34:17Adam Sosnick?

  Vince Vaughn, hello.

• 1:34:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Right there, Vince Vaughn comes up. It was just a great time.

• 1:34:21Speaker 05

  Can I say something?

• 1:34:22Adam Sosnick?

  Shout out to Felix.

• 1:34:23Speaker 03

  No, you, four tickets, yours.

• 1:34:25Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 1:34:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Look forward to it.

• 1:34:27Adam Sosnick?

  Forget about Rob, he's not with us. Don't worry about that guy.

• 1:34:29Speaker 03

  By the way, he's working his tail off.

• 1:34:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:32Adam Sosnick?

  When he started, he had a full head of hair like you.

• 1:34:35Speaker 03

  He is.

• 1:34:35Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, it's tough out here. And now he wears pants to work, too.

• 1:34:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, finally. But Sean, so, so with everything being said, and I, and I respect, because Sean, you've been right about it the, the whole time, the whole Russia collusion, this, this whole thing. But it's, when it comes down to, and Pat asks a great question, what's going to happen? The accountability, because there's a reason trust in the government is at an all-time low, and you nailed it. But, but here's the thing about the Tulsi thing, Sean, we all knew, like, this isn't new news. Some people like it's a distraction to get away From the

• 1:35:07Speaker 03

  No, it's not.

• 1:35:08Speaker 05

  Well, but here's what I think, Sean. What I'm basically trying to say is, where's the accountability? We know Comey's dirty. You know Brennan's dirty, alright? Hillary got caught, when she got caught with Russia collusion, what was it? She got a slap on the wrist, $8,000 fine, which is, to me, it's guilt. You did it. The DNC had to pay 100, I believe, $5,000. But if Tulsi, if what Tulsi is saying true, Sean, they weaponize federal agencies to spy on and undermine a duly-elected president, okay? That's a direct attack on the republic. And you know, the Democrats always say, you know, they point the finger when it's actually them, okay? And if you could do that and walk free, and I get it, I get the, we gotta wait, and I love that you're patient. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be honest, patience isn't one of my virtues from the movie Demolition Man, Wesley Snipes.

• 1:35:52Speaker 05

  It really isn't. We want something. We want- Noted, Vinny, noted. Sean, and here's the thing, when it comes to-

• 1:35:58Speaker 03

  But one of the, maybe to give you some hope-

• 1:36:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:36:01Speaker 03

  And I'm not gonna get into this game of over-promising, under-delivering. Maybe something that will give you hope is, a lot of this is already documented.

• 1:36:08Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:36:09Speaker 03

  And having that documentation, I would imagine, they could hopefully piece this together in short order. Now, you've got to also provide due process. That's a complicated issue. That takes time. And even with all of that, look, we did the Russia hoax for three years. It was an ensemble cast. It was me, John Solomon, Greg Jarrett, Sarah Carter, Catherine Herridge at the time was at Fox. And honestly, and there were maybe six or seven sources we had that were dead-on accurate, that were giving us information that nobody else had. We nailed every aspect of it. I'm very proud of that work. That was, you know, really hard investigative work.

• 1:36:51Speaker 03

  And, and that kinda goes to my theme, you know, when we were talking about Epstein earlier, I take my time. I, everyone sort of, "Argh!" They jump in. It's this, it's the Mossad, it's the, the cover-up, cover-up, cover-up. I'm just like, I want to wait a second, guys. I just pulled back naturally. For me, it's worked. Some people in my audience get mad. They want me to go a little deeper, a little quicker, a little faster. If I know, I'll tell you. I'm not gonna hide it.

• 1:37:20Speaker 03

  I do think that that story is not done. This, to answer your question, I have the same impatience you do. Because I've, I've covered this for so long. I just don't know how long it's gonna take to get to where we want to be and where it should be. Thank you. To me, the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible.

• 1:37:37Speaker 05

  And, and, and my point is, will it happen in this four years? In this four years, because, who knows, Sean, who's, exactly, so, we're gonna have to give them four years, because like you said, just watching, yeah, exactly, just watching the, the, I was that guy, Sean, when you guys were reporting it? I was watching those hearings. I watched every time Peter Strzok was talking and getting grilled about Lisa Page and the text messages saying, "Insurance policy." "Is he gonna win? Hell no. I'm gonna stop it." Andy McCabe, I watched hours and hours of just lying and getting caught and the bias, and nothing happened to these people. They settled with Peter Strzok and they gave him a couple million dollars because of the stress or whatever that they put them through, and it's like, they got four years, Sean.

• 1:38:18Speaker 03

  Think, think of this, though. There is a, there is a, an upside to this. Is with everything they threw at this guy. Yes. All of this, every allegation, Alvin Bragg, Letitia James, you know, weaponization. Bullets to the head. Fifty, oh, that too. Fifty-one former intel officials. Over time, the American people, and if we're a little more patient, I'm impatient like you are, you're a little more, the American people saw through it. They heard it 24/7. Fake news CNN, MSDNC, ABC, NBC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post, all over the place, and they rejected it.

• 1:39:01Speaker 03

  You know who they listened to? Guys like you, and you, and all, everybody at this table.

• 1:39:05Speaker 05

  And you, I mean, you guys are number one.

• 1:39:06Speaker 03

  So, they, they, the information got out. People now are selective in who they're going to watch. You mentioned a lot of prominent names, people that I have worked with. You know what? You earn your credibility every day. And, and that's why I went through this list. Again, it was not to brag, but I've been right a lot because I really care to be right. And I know you guys care at this table. It's obvious you guys care at this table.

• 1:39:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I want to say two things, Sean. First of all, I want to say thank you. I am the parent of my wife, beautiful wife, and we have two daughters.

• 1:39:41Speaker 03

  You really outkicked your coverage.

• 1:39:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I did. Thank God. I do thank God.

• 1:39:47Speaker 03

  I don't even know his wife. I'm just saying.

• 1:39:49Tom Ellsworth?

  You're just looking at Tom.

• 1:39:51Speaker 03

  We all outkick our coverage.

• 1:39:52Tom Ellsworth?

  How do you pull anything? Well, your assumption was correct, and for the first time in your life, you rushed your judgment. You were correct.

• 1:40:00Tom Ellsworth?

  You didn't lay back and wait for the facts. Well, I want to thank you for something because one of the... Yeah, I have a daughter that's gonna be a sophomore in two weeks at Rice University. And one of the things I sat down and talked to her about, and we went in detail, and I gave her this case study, which was Duke Lacrosse. And I said, "Let me tell you, Bailey," says, "first of all, the boys at the party made a terrible judgment decision to hire that kind of entertainment. And they put themselves in what I call the hammer position. You're now a nail, and the hammer of everything around you can come down. It was not a good decision. But look, there's one voice, and if you Wikipedia it, it was your voice, Sean. I say, "Look how everybody said. Here's what's going on. There was a bunch of liberal professors and liberal administrators that actually hated

• 1:40:45Tom Ellsworth?

  the students that were on their campus that were predominantly white and fairly wealthy. The faculty at Duke has an adversarial opinion and relationship with the students of Duke because of where the students come from. There is a built-in bias. So here comes the hammer. And Mike Niffong was an opportunist who eventually was disbarred and went to jail, as he should. And the only reason he did? Because there is a voice. And so the lessons that I tell them is, "Listen, you may need to be the voice, number one. But number two, be careful about the positions you put yourself in, because in this life, there are groups out there that want to make you their nail." And so I thank you for this, because it's part of a case study about growing up and being aware of what's around you and things, and I thank you for it.

• 1:41:28Tom Ellsworth?

  The second thing is, what's going on, Vinnie? You know...

• 1:41:34Tom Ellsworth?

  The Democrats often, it's such a playbook, accuse the other side of what you're already doing. Trump's not gonna accept the results of the election. What the hell do we think was going on in 2016? Yeah. Obama wasn't accepting the results of the election. And now Tulsi Gabbard has given America a diagram that a sixth grader can understand. Oh, this, this, I thank them for that diagram. Here's what happened. I hope it's in the front of classes and schools that are saying, look, here's what really happened. A, B, C, D, E, F, G. This is what happened. Hoax. And you were out there on it because, and I think there's redemption in that diagram. And I also think there's opportunity in that diagram because I think

• 1:42:14Tom Ellsworth?

  that diagram can be the source of, okay, now we know. But guess what? It hasn't been 50 years since the Kennedy assassination. This is only 2016. We're gonna go look into this one. All of LBJ's cronies aren't dead. All of Sam Giacana's cronies aren't dead. All of Alan Dulles's cronies aren't dead. That's a JFK files. We're just finding out from history that there is a group of people that got really pissed off and off the president. This one, people are still alive and we have a diagram of everything that happened here. And the irony of it is there was a time when Hillary was really pissed off at James Comey for saying things about an email server that she claimed impacted little percents of the electorate right before the election. And they were ex-

• 1:42:58Speaker 03

  Did you know what Bleach Bit was beforehand? No, I never knew. Nobody did. Nobody knew. Alright, so think of this. That is 2016.

• 1:43:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:43:05Speaker 03

  2020, you pre-bunk the very real Hunter Biden laptop. My view, you don't pre-bunk it, you confirm its authenticity, different election result. Anyone disagree?

• 1:43:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Nope, not at all.

• 1:43:17Speaker 03

  Okay, 2024, nothing but lawfare. They thought they'd crush Trump in the, by piling on charges. The beauty of this grand conspiracy investigation is it will start with Russia, all the things you're saying. It'll go through the 51 former intel officials in 2020. Then it's gonna make its way right here in the free state of Florida, right to Jack Smith's front door. Where's it gonna end? I don't, again, I can't rush the judgment. I mean, I, everything that I know that you said is true. And these people are bad people. And they, in my view, a lot of them abused their power. They did it to impact elections in ways that it never should have happened.

• 1:44:03Speaker 03

  I never believed, growing up, this would ever happen in our country. But, let it play out. We gotta, it's not gonna happen overnight. Which is frustrating.

• 1:44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna be, the fact that she's ahead of it right now, and talking about it, bringing attention back to it, is very important, because to us, you know, what, what a big community wants accountability. A lot of guys, like him and others, smart guys, fell for Russiagate. A lot of people fell for it. They're like, oh yeah, let me tell you, Trump is this, Trump is that. It worked, it was so effective.

• 1:44:33Adam Sosnick?

  It got me, Sean. I tried to avoid it, it got me.

• 1:44:36Speaker 03

  Explain, what do you mean?

• 1:44:38Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I was, I was a Clinton Democrat, or a JFK Democrat.

• 1:44:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:44Adam Sosnick?

  My father was a big JFK guy. And I just grew up as a Democrat. The first time that I voted was in 2000. I voted for Al Gore. I was a RFK, JFK liberal, which at this point would just be a Republican. And over the last five years, I've seen, oh my God, they've been lying to me the whole friggin' time! The whole time! You know, I thought, I used to look at you guys and say, you know, fair and balanced. Okay, Fox News! Yeah, most watched, most trusted, that, whatever it is now. And I believed what the MSDNC was doing. I believed CNN, I mean, Ted Turner was a legend. I mean, far flung, what the hell CNN is now. I like Fareed Zakaria.

• 1:45:27Adam Sosnick?

  But I'm like, Pat jokes that I'm like the most MAGA guy ever. The reason that that's sort of true is because I'm so f-ing disgusted

• 1:45:36Speaker 03

  You should be.

• 1:45:36Adam Sosnick?

  of what the Democratic Party and what the mainstream media has done to America. And it's like, I'm living to tell the story, and now I'm like, they're lying, everybody! Don't believe these scumbags! Because they got me. And I used to watch people like Morning Joe and I was like, this guy's a Republican. He's Mika Brzezinski. He's, you know, a little, little, little two-step over here. You son of a bitch, Laj Miehler. But that's the reality of here is that like, there's a lot of Americans who look at Fox and would look at you, would look at O'Reilly, look at me, all these guys, they're just, they're just covering up. But it's really, like Tom said, the other side that accuses you of doing the same thing, they're the ones that's doing it. So they got me.

• 1:46:18Speaker 03

  What motivates you to do this great podcast every week? What motivates you guys to do this?

• 1:46:22Adam Sosnick?

  I come for the comments, mostly.

• 1:46:27Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 1:46:28Adam Sosnick?

  I have the comments.

• 1:46:32Tom Ellsworth?

  In the words of Russ Lempah, we are equal time.

• 1:46:35Speaker 03

  Sean Hannity would be nothing without me. How's that one? Oh, really? Is that what he said? No.

• 1:46:43Speaker 03

  His brother's been my agent my whole career.

• 1:46:44Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but he used to say, I am equal time.

• 1:46:47Speaker 03

  I am talent on loan from God. You guys don't like my impressions. That's it. I'm done. I'm gonna retire.

• 1:46:56Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, Hannity, you stick to being a journalist. I'll tell you what motivates. Tell me to Tom.

• 1:47:00Speaker 03

  Here's the thing. I will tell you, I am more interested, I feel this is a moment in history where really emerging voices, we're all spokes in a wheel. This is why, you know, you're asking me about other hosts and I'm like, I wish them well. I have no ill will towards anybody. And whether they're right or wrong, it doesn't matter because the end of the day, what I learned in 2024 is the American people will sift through it. They're hip to the fact that these other people lie, distort, manipulate, they're full of crap. They know that they hate Trump and they don't believe him. They're dead. You should, you know, we haven't talked about Colbert. I mean,

• 1:47:41Speaker 03

  I've watched this decline. The most fascinating thing is, you know, in TV you get minute by minute ratings. You can look at your show and see what people don't like and you can make adjustments. You can. I've been watching him and Kimmel and Fallon.

• 1:48:03Speaker 03

  And it's just getting faster and faster.

• 1:48:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Embarrassing, embarrassing.

• 1:48:07Speaker 03

  I don't know what your numbers are.

• 1:48:09Speaker 06

  Do you want to read them?

• 1:48:10Speaker 03

  I guarantee you have more viewers and listeners on your podcast than that idiot has. And the worst part is he's not funny.

• 1:48:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, he's not funny, my eyes. By the way, he was number one for seven years straight.

• 1:48:24Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:48:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Seven years straight ahead of Fallon and Kimmel.

• 1:48:27Speaker 06

  And this is all Trump-hating, Pat?

• 1:48:28Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, this guy's getting far. What's this, Rob, that you have from the different evolutions of, uh?

• 1:48:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, here's a montage of Stephen Colbert over the years in regards to Trump.

• 1:48:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:48:37Speaker 03

  Donald Trump has been sworn in as President of the United States. I know, I know, I know. Listen, listen, we're just as confused as you are. Joe Biden did it. I sat down and just started crying with relief and Evy said, you never have to talk about him again. And then I cried with joy. After a bizarre and vicious campaign fueled by a desperate need not to go to jail, Donald Trump has won the 2024 election. Next year will be our last season. The network will be ending the Late Show in May.

• 1:49:16Speaker 06

  After I shredded money like the federal government.

• 1:49:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Forty million a year, the show was losing.

• 1:49:21Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 1:49:22Speaker 05

  So here's my question to Sean. Sean, you're losing that much money. What keeps it going? We'll get to the WNBA if we get there, but if you're hemorrhaging that much money, is it, is it worth? Cause he's just, well, he's, he's a political activist. He's not a comedian. Have you ever heard of somebody go, let's go watch Stephen Colbert do stand-up? Never. He's not funny.

• 1:49:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you just said it, but before that, never.

• 1:49:42Speaker 05

  He just works for them. Well, yeah, I, yeah, exactly. I do stand-up comedy. I've never seen this guy. That, that to me is 15 writers writing your freaking monologue. You're reading it off a freaking teleprompter. He's not funny at all, but is it worth losing 40 million to donors to just have you go up there and just bash Trump?

• 1:49:58Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:50:00Speaker 05

  That's what I'm saying. And it took this long? It took this long for them to say, okay, enough is enough. We can't lose another 40 million dollars.

• 1:50:06Speaker 03

  Here's my prediction. Kimmel's next and Fallon after. Well, they already got cut back to four days a week. Look, I, I completely understand that I have an obligation to my radio stations and to my audience and to Fox. I've got to deliver. And the only way you deliver, you described all the characteristics that'll make you successful earlier. And that is you work hard. You do your homework, you care about what you're saying, you're authentic, you take chances, you do all the, every adjective you used I thought was dead on.

• 1:50:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you, do we have one last story? Because that's your helicopter out there. It's 11:02, you gotta run to the show.

• 1:50:46Speaker 03

  No, they can wait.

• 1:50:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I got one more story I want to do. One more story I want to do is a Newsom story.

• 1:50:50Speaker 03

  How do you know that's a helicopter?

• 1:50:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You didn't feel that? You didn't hear that? Well, we can tell it was a plane and what's a chopper. It says 11 acres.

• 1:50:56Speaker 03

  1987, I'm not hearing that well.

• 1:50:58Patrick Bet-David?

  He finally found you. Rob, if you can pull up the Newsom story, okay?

• 1:51:04Speaker 03

  Oh, my buddy Gavin.

• 1:51:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly, that's what I want to go to. So California tied for the highest unemployment rate in the country, okay? So while he is on a daily, I've not seen him attack Trump, DeSantis, anybody on the Republican side, the way he's been attacking the last couple of weeks. Very aggressive, the way he's been doing it.

• 1:51:25Speaker 03

  Called Trump a son of a bitch.

• 1:51:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He called Trump a son of a bitch on Sean Ryan, yes he did. Making it in debates harder than ever. The latest job number came out, California is now tied with Nevada as the highest unemployment rate in the country at 5.4%, while the national average is 4.1%. Uh, Rob, if you have the clip, is this it? Go ahead and play this clip. Go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:51:45Speaker 15

  Job numbers show California is now tied with Nevada for the highest unemployment rate in the country. The state's unemployment rate went up slightly over the past month to 5.4%, but that is still above the national average. You're seeing it right here at 4.1%.

• 1:52:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so with the comments he's making on Sean Ryan, President Trump, son of a bitch, all this other stuff he's doing, calling out Florida, calling out Florida's number one footers. Rob, if you want to go on Twitter, the one tweet that I put, uh, yeah, if you can go to the one that I put up, Rob, uh, where he reacts to DeSantis, he's trying to call out DeSantis, right there, zoom in a little bit on his tweet and then, yeah, so he says Florida at the bottom, I'm going to read his first. Florida, 51 in mental health care, number one in home insurance costs, number one in elder fraud, all right? And then go above it. California, number one in taxes, number one in homelessness, number one in outbound migration, number one in gas prices, but he's taking the focus off of California on Florida.

• 1:52:43Speaker 03

  Well, now you could add to your list, number one in the highest unemployment rate

• 1:52:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Unemployment, that's right. And that was a day before that announcement was made.

• 1:52:50Speaker 03

  Did you watch when I had DeSantis debate?

• 1:52:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, of course.

• 1:52:54Speaker 03

  Okay, so all I did in that debate was put up Here's schools number one in Florida. Here's schools in California at the bottom, right? Here's crime here, crime here. And I was very meticulous in my research. If I got one thing wrong, I was gonna get the crap kicked out of me. I just, I kept putting it up. Taxes, taxes, you know, crime, quality of life, all of this homelessness. Put it all up there. They were pissed at the end of...

• 1:53:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's "they"?

• 1:53:23Speaker 03

  His whole team. I can imagine.

• 1:53:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was back hurt? Newsom?

• 1:53:26Speaker 03

  Newsom, oh yeah, behind the scenes, they were furious, so...

• 1:53:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause he got destroyed? I don't know if he got destroyed though, guys. I mean, you remember, we watched this and the way, you know, the, his ability to spin...

• 1:53:38Speaker 03

  Okay, but the numbers speak for itself.

• 1:53:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:41Speaker 03

  You think about this. I think he does wanna run, that's my guess. Look, he can be very, very charming in person. If, if he was in this room, he would schmooze you. Part of you would say reluctantly, you would even like him. However, the numbers are gonna dictate. His policies will be what is his demise. His record will be his demise. He has to defend, you know, being a sanctuary state, sanctuary city. How many, what, who are the names of the people that were murdered and raped and victims of violent crime in California under his sanctuary state policies? He's gonna have to answer for all of that.

• 1:54:24Speaker 03

  And, you know, right now, he's not being held accountable. It was a fun, that was fun to do.

• 1:54:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, no, I, I, by the way, do you think, uh, uh, do you think was a strategic, good strategic move on DeSantis to do it?

• 1:54:37Speaker 03

  Big time.

• 1:54:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You think so?

• 1:54:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I thought he did very well. I really did.

• 1:54:40Patrick Bet-David?

  But do you think it was a good move? Because he was in the competition. Newsom was not. So it brought more positive attention to Newsom. DeSantis didn't need to do it. Newsom needed this to be done.

• 1:54:52Speaker 03

  I think, look, I think Ron has been a great governor for the state of Florida.

• 1:54:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I fully agree.

• 1:54:56Speaker 03

  I think he's crushed it. Um, I think that he has a bright future. I don't know what that is.

• 1:55:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he's got the goodies at the highest level?

• 1:55:04Speaker 03

  I don't know, he's a young guy. I mean, he's got, he's got time.

• 1:55:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got time.

• 1:55:07Speaker 03

  Look, I, I do think there's gonna be... I don't really want to talk too much about it. Democrats are in such disarray because now it's Mumdani and it's AOC in the Squad and Grandpa Bernie and Pocahontas and they're all killing each other.

• 1:55:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:55:23Speaker 03

  And nobody will stand up to the radicals in their party. But I do think there are distinct differences, you referred to some of them earlier, between in the MAGA movement. I don't think we're really going to discuss that until after the 26 midterms. If I were to offer advice to everybody, I'd say, "Don't focus on your differences now. Focus on that after 26." Because I do think there is an isolationist wing, you know, in the MAGA movement. Okay, I'm not part of that. I don't agree with that. I think there are, you know, I hear some comments about Israel that I find very troubling. I don't like that either.

• 1:56:04Speaker 03

  I think, I kind of am really more, I think, more aligned with Trump than some people that claim to be aligned with Trump. But I was with him too from the beginning and I had people beating the crap, conservatives beating the crap out of me for years on air. Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck, they were pounding the hell out of me when I supported Trump in 15 and 16. And, you know...

• 1:56:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I remember that because Beck was not supporting in 2016.

• 1:56:29Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 1:56:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And neither was Shapiro.

• 1:56:31Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:56:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if he still is today.

• 1:56:33Speaker 03

  By the way, I hold no ill will or resentment. You asked me about, you know, my former colleagues. No ill will, no resentment, wish them the best. It's not that. It's just the point is, I take my position. I went out hard and heavy first. And I'll tell you that what made it different for me, and I'm very, I love Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz sounded like Reagan in many ways, but I didn't, I just knew Trump could win. And I knew he thought differently. We spent hours in 15 when he was getting serious about this, deep into the night.

• 1:57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Cruz.

• 1:57:05Speaker 03

  No, with Trump, talking about issues. And there was something uniquely different about him. Like when he would make the argument, why don't they pay for their liberation? Talking about Iraq, I'm like, I really can't argue against that. Or making the case for a border wall in a passionate way. Or his economic policy, or, you know, I throw ideas about him at healthcare, about energy dominance and all these other things that he's now implementing. What makes this so dynamic at this point, and I won't give you my laundry list, but everything that he's been doing is big, everything is consequential, everything is... I mean, nobody has been able to do what he's done in six months. Pretty amazing.

• 1:57:49Speaker 03

  That's why I get kind of aggravated when everyone's killing each other. Give them a little breathing room. Let's get to the bottom of the things you were talking about in the beginning of this podcast, I'm with you, completely. But let's not lose sight of the success. You know, like, your show is successful. If you have one bad episode, or one bad guest, or somebody that says something stupid, I mean, is that what you want the focus to be on?

• 1:58:12Patrick Bet-David?

  The only thing is, if I am, if they make a promise on my behalf, and I don't get ahead of it, I'm the leader, everything rises and falls on me. That is my only call out. So if he goes and makes a promise on my behalf, he already knows, we've had those conversations.

• 1:58:26Speaker 03

  He already told me, you're giving me a million dollars.

• 1:58:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, sure. And you're giving me two million with your half a billion that you got, and the money that you made, so we're going back to that.

• 1:58:35Speaker 03

  The numbers keep changing.

• 1:58:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't even get paid, I just, I'm here for the comments. I'm getting text messages from guys saying, I gotta get you out. I don't know where you gotta go. I would have another hour of conversation with you.

• 1:58:45Speaker 03

  You know what the problem is? I have to do three hours of radio, and then I have my TV show, and I have other interviews I'm doing today, but, you know. Listen, thank you for having me, thank you for the times you come on my show. You're hard to book, so I'd like it to be a little easier.

• 1:59:01Patrick Bet-David?

  One reason.

• 1:59:02Speaker 03

  Why?

• 1:59:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why you're hard to book? It's I put the four kids down when your show's on.

• 1:59:06Speaker 03

  I understand.

• 1:59:07Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the only thing.

• 1:59:08Speaker 03

  Family first.

• 1:59:08Patrick Bet-David?

  If you tell me nine, ten, and you keep nine, ten, I'll keep it. But if you say nine, ten turns nine, forty, I can't do it, because I gotta come back and put some of the kids down. So, I got a thirteen, eleven, a nine, and a four, and I would have twenty more if I could. Hands down.

• 1:59:26Speaker 03

  Elon Musk Jr.

• 1:59:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I would have forty. If I come home, they're running up to me, I'd have forty kids. But we're living in different times.

• 1:59:32Speaker 03

  Seriously?

• 1:59:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Hands down. I'm not even kidding.

• 1:59:34Speaker 03

  I want that discussion. We gotta have that.

• 1:59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh.

• 1:59:36Speaker 03

  I have my podcast. I'd love to have all of you come on together.

• 1:59:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Would love to. Yeah. Well, listen, you're down here, we'll do more of this. We'll do more of this.

• 1:59:42Speaker 03

  No, I, thank you for having me. Thanks for being so gracious.

• 1:59:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And we appreciate you as well.

• 1:59:45Speaker 03

  Congrats, all of you. This guy. Rob is no joke. Watching this guy work, man. Rob is no joke, son. This is serious, kick ass, you know, internet play here. Oh, he's awesome. He's a great guy. He's a great guy.

• 1:59:58Patrick Bet-David?

  We feel the same way. We're gonna continue, guys. So hang tight, we're just gonna say goodbye and we're gonna come back because there's a story of a guy.

• 2:00:04Speaker 03

  You take calls, by the way, I see this board.

• 2:00:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That did something on Twitter.

• 2:00:08Speaker 03

  Hannity's a jackass. Get rid of him.

• 2:00:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Working five jobs. We have to talk about that story. Hang tight though. Let me say goodbye to Sean.

• 2:00:13Adam Sosnick?

  Should we take a quick pic or no?

• 2:00:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 2:00:15Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:00:15Speaker 03

  You need to put the cam on me?

• 2:00:20Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, we're gonna take a quick picture with Sean Hannity right now. We're giving him a gift. Vinnie and I are gonna just hold down the fort while your eyes are all waiting. We gotta keep, look at that.

• 2:00:31Adam Sosnick?

  Look at this.

• 2:00:33Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 2:00:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And we got you one.

• 2:00:34Adam Sosnick?

  There we go.

• 2:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  With New York on the side of it, because I know part of you is New York, and we got a future looks bright with Florida on the side of it. So, we're gonna put this in here for you.

• 2:00:44Adam Sosnick?

  Sean Hannity. Maybe a pen for Sean Hannity to sign, Rob?

• 2:00:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, real quick, come on.

• 2:00:48Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, sir. Is there a pen for Mr. Hannity?

• 2:00:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody. And then let's get the Sharpie for Sean to sign and we'll continue the podcast.

• 2:00:54Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 2:00:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, Vinnie, get in there.

• 2:00:57Speaker 06

  Three, two, one. Three, two, one.

• 2:01:02Speaker 03

  I just felt right. You guys are great, man. Really enjoyed it. Thank you.

• 2:01:05Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you for being here.

• 2:01:06Patrick Bet-David?

  This was amazing.

• 2:01:07Speaker 03

  I enjoyed it. Thank you.

• 2:01:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Likewise, likewise.

• 2:01:10Speaker 03

  Thanks, man. Appreciate it.

• 2:01:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you give this to him on the way out?

• 2:01:12Speaker 03

  Yes, sir.

• 2:01:13Adam Sosnick?

  Sean, put your John Hancock on there.

• 2:01:15Patrick Bet-David?

  If you can give the.

• 2:01:16Adam Sosnick?

  All right.

• 2:01:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I got three more stories I wanna go through.

• 2:01:20Adam Sosnick?

  We didn't really talk about Colbert that much. Thank you for your patience.

• 2:01:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Chad, you wanna grab this real quick?

• 2:01:26Speaker 03

  Thank you, sir.

• 2:01:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Safe travels. We'll do it again. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

• 2:01:40Speaker 03

  God bless, Sean. We'll see you soon.

• 2:01:41Adam Sosnick?

  Sean.

• 2:01:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not one of the best. You're the best in your space.

• 2:01:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I had huge drive because I just wanted to be more. I didn't want to settle. I'm going to find some way to the more.

• 2:02:05Speaker 14

  There is hope for all of us.

• 2:02:09Patrick Bet-David?

  David Falk was literally the man behind the legend of Michael Jordan. I did all of Michael's deals myself. Through David's creativity, he just came up with, why wouldn't it be Air Jordan? Air Jordan.

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• 2:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, whatever you do, don't miss this year's Vault Conference. I'm telling you right now. Whatever you do, don't miss this year's Vault Conference with David Falk, Martha Stewart, Tony Robbins and I. If you're somebody that's got ambitions in business, you run a business, you want to network around other people that have similar values and they're running businesses. Together in the same room, nearly 12,000 people Vault Conference, go get registered. Get your ticket. I'm getting text messages left and right from people I've known for 20 years telling me, oh my God, I'm going. A guy from 25 years ago. Text me saying I'm taking my entire executive team. Some of the tickets are selling out. So go to thevaultconference.com, get your ticket now. I want to go to a story. Rob? A guy on Twitter, if you can go to Twitter, one of my top tweets,

• 2:04:12Patrick Bet-David?

  this guy, who's an entrepreneur founder, eventually gets so sick of this one employee that he hired, that he posts this story, and we have to talk about this guy. Watch this, Tom. This gets 23 million views. A guy named Suhal, Rob, let's see how many followers he's got. Can you just go on his profile? I don't know how many followers he's got. So, look at this. He's got 370, is that 377,000? Or 30, he's got 377,000 followers. He puts this tweet, go back, if you could, Rob. Watch this, Vinny. Tom, this is very important. There's a guy named Soham Parekh in India, who works at three to four startups at the same time. He's been preying on YC companies and more, be aware.

• 2:04:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I fired this guy in his first week and told him to stop lying, scamming people. He hasn't stopped. A year later, no more excuses. He puts him on blast, okay? Now, you're gonna see what this guy does, Vinny. We're gonna get right into it. So, this guy, if you go a little bit lower, somebody watches saying, "Why would anybody put him on blast?" That's his resume. 90% fake. And he changes his resume regularly. Rob, if you can click on his resume. This is becoming something called over-employment. Over-employment, okay? 90% of the stuff on his resume is BS. Go back to the Twitter, uh, uh, um, uh, exchange, because I want to go a little bit lower on right there. Yeah, keep going on the bottom. I want to see what people are saying and watch his exchange.

• 2:05:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to say also that I try to talk sense into this guy, explaining the impact, and give him a chance to turn a new leaf, because sometimes that's what a new, that's what a person needs. But it clearly didn't work. He continues. Another guy comments saying, "Why would you put him on blast?" Keep going a little bit lower, Rob, on the things that he responded to. There's a bunch of them that he responds to. That's the guy's face. Zoom out a little bit, Rob, so we can see the guy's face. That's the guy's face. Who did this, okay? He's now, from then, done multiple interviews with others. They've asked him. He's been on podcasts. He's come back trying to apologize. "What feedback can he give me? How can I change?" Other business owners responded in this tweet with him, saying, "Well, why did you do this?" He says, "Well, one time..."

• 2:06:28Patrick Bet-David?

  We even sent him a laptop because he said he claimed that he lived in the US. So we sent him a laptop in US, but it went to his sister's house. We got the laptop laptop back. He's lied to so many other people that people eventually started responding. Now he's trying to change. So then one company offers this guy, Tom, a $250,000 a year job to work out of San Francisco. Guess what he said? No, you know why? Cause it's working from the office. Says, no, I can't do that because he can't bullshit everybody. Okay? So as the story continues, and I'm looking at this, this is what I tweeted at the top. Rob, if you can zoom in a little bit, working from home mainly favors the one working from home. If you're that good at working from home, start your own business. You claim you're that disciplined, start your own business.

• 2:07:13Patrick Bet-David?

  This happened to us multiple times since the pandemic and they don't even care. They don't care when you fire them because it's not hard to find a next victim. These types of people are going to find so many business owners to go through. The case study gets even more interesting, Tom, which is actually funny to be thinking about. So one guy, one company gets so sick and tired of being taken advantage of so many times that they hire a guy named Eric. Rob, if you can have Brandon send you the story to show it's so funny. They hire a guy, they claim his name is Eric. Eric has one job. You know what his job is? To go out there and find all the employees that work for this company who are abusing it, Vinnie. So all day long, he is investigating the hundreds of employees that work from home for this company

• 2:07:58Patrick Bet-David?

  to find how many other jobs they have that they're lying. That's his job. Oh, man. Did you understand what I just said? So what is his job? He's finding other people that are lying who the company's paying you W2 salary, all the other stuff. Guess what the guy ends up doing a few months later after he investigates these guys? What? He says, holy shit, this is a brilliant idea. He starts doing it. So he gets multiple jobs. He now makes $300,000 off of three or four jobs. And you know how he does when the company is holding Zooms? He has two different Zooms on his screen that he's logged into, two headsets. When it comes time that they're talking to him, guess what he does? He accidentally closes the video on this one, answers the question here, then when he Has to answer you closes the video on this answers it over here. And when they ask what happened, he says, I just had internet connection.

• 2:08:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:08:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's been able to do this with four jobs, make six hundred and eighty five thousand dollars a year with overemployment. Tom, when you hear a story like this, what do you think about it? With this overemployment concept?

• 2:08:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think about several things and let's go through them here. The first thing, this has been going on in Silicon Valley for a lot of years, where they feared that engineers are doing double jobs, especially the ones that lived in India, where they would hire a junior engineer to work with them. So let's say you're paying me one twenty and Adam's paying me one twenty. I'm making two forty. And I'm giving fifty US to a junior engineer with me in India. So I'm basically operating myself almost as a small IT service company. And then, well, if I got two, maybe I could get three. And it's been hap- it was happening. Here's what the very interesting about this. So HR groups, who's going to be the most pissed about this when they find out about the about the overpayment?

• 2:09:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you're really not getting what you think you're supposed to be getting. The CEO? It was the investors. Yeah. The investors are saying the CEO saying, so Pat's been on boards. He'd be like, Tom, HR reports to you. What the hell? Are we getting the quality we're supposed to be getting? And worse, is our code getting out to other people that might be seeing some of our advanced products coming in the future? Uh, uh, uh, Tom, stop stuttering. What are we doing at HR to ensure that the people that are our remote engineers are in fact doing it for us? So you had boards that were piping up. Now, guess what? It goes a layer deeper. Because of all the AI hiring and some of the stuff that people were trying to do, what is the last thing that Silicon Valley usually puts on new inventions?

• 2:10:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Compliance, controls and restrictions, because it costs money to put that there. They'd rather say, Vinny, this is the best software ever. Use it for your company. Sign here for a SaaS contract. Oh, thank you so much. I get to be a, and by the way, we give you twenty percent off to be an early customer. Boom. So guess what? The last thing's in there is control. What is the last thing that came on to Facebook? That they then got. ...before state attorney generals, controls about bullying, controls about porn, controls about what young kids were seeing, remember? Why wasn't that in the beginning? Because there were documents inside Meta, because you were making money on ads doing it that way, and so controls, restrictions, and compliance comes later. So what's happening right now is the inmates are running the asylum. That is the one big headline here.

• 2:11:11Tom Ellsworth?

  The engineers are using the very tools and techniques of technology and remote work to fraudulently have multiple jobs, and some of them are actually trying to deliver by having junior engineers with them. And so what's going on now that's in the sheer light of day is Silicon Valley doesn't want to talk about that the inmates are actually running the asylum, that they don't have controls, they don't have restrictions, and when they hire a compliance officer, the compliance officer said, "Why am I running around busting my ass for $140,000 a year?" That was the last guy Pat talked about. I could invent two more compliance officers, I could make $300,000 checking up on people. So guess what?

• 2:11:53Tom Ellsworth?

  The cop, the cop that was watching all of the prohibition in Chicago said, "I could make more money actually helping and being part of this than just being a cop." You know what? That's what I'm gonna do.

• 2:12:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the story, by the way. Look at this. A millennial made $300,000 secretly working multiple jobs while tasked with catching others doing the same.

• 2:12:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow. The cop decided to be part of it and make money.

• 2:12:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. And the guy that claimed he had four or five jobs, all nonsense, like he wasn't working. He claimed he was working 140 hours a week and he graduated from Mumbai University. This is one of the interviews. He actually doesn't answer the question. You can play the first 30 seconds to just kind of hear how he talks. Watch this here. Go for it.

• 2:12:32Speaker 16

  It is true. And, yeah, I would, you know, love to add color to it, but, you know, that is true.

• 2:12:41Speaker 04

  Yeah. I guess the question is, do you believe that you were in violation of your own employment contracts? Or do you believe that there was some sort of legal loophole that allowed you to do this without committing any sort of legal violation?

• 2:12:57Speaker 16

  I mean, honestly, I think going back to like how it even like started to happen and what the motivations were.

• 2:13:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not gonna answer. He's gonna say there was a lot of stress.

• 2:13:05Speaker 16

  Obviously, I would wanna like preface with saying like, I'm not proud of what I've done. You know, that's not something that I endorse either.

• 2:13:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there, Rob. So, so the question becomes this, Tom. Whose fault is this?

• 2:13:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it's the moral failing of the employees. So that's bad that the employees did this. But guess what? It's what I was talking about. Silicon Valley got scammed by some of its own tools and techniques. And there's a lot of companies out there that suddenly realized this was going on. And it's like, it's their fault. I think the investors are the ones should be upset that says, wait a minute.

• 2:13:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You caused this.

• 2:13:42Tom Ellsworth?

  You told me people were gonna work for home, but you were gonna check up on it. Obviously, you didn't. Obviously, you didn't have the tools in there. Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. Can you tell me that these people working two jobs weren't stealing our code, using it for other things? Well, wait a minute. No, you can't tell me that. And so when you allow people to work remote, and then you put all in these tools that enable remote, and then the backgrounds and everything you can put on Zoom to make remote look as authentic as possible, you open yourself up to it. And so you know what? The companies that that allowed it, Pat, opened themselves up to it. And guess what? You may, you can't open a bank nowadays without compliance and and and being, you know, have the right kind of people there and controls the regulations.

• 2:14:25Tom Ellsworth?

  But in the Wild West of Silicon Valley, you could do what you want, and it's left to the board and the CEOs to make the decisions to say, look.

• 2:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I put this all on them. I put on the employee.

• 2:14:34Tom Ellsworth?

  It's them.

• 2:14:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I put on the entrepreneur. Adam, I wanna go one more step, but go for it.

• 2:14:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm with you.

• 2:14:40Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I might be a little counterintuitive here, but what's the big deal here? Because on one end, we're making fun of people who don't work their tail off and don't respect work-life balance or basically wanna do the four-day thing and 30-hour thing. I'm not advocating for this guy's doing, but we're telling people, go get side hustles. Go get the gig economy, basically keep working, get your, you know, increase your market share.

• 2:15:04Tom Ellsworth?

  That's not what he's doing. He's not doing Uber on the weekend. Don't conflate the two issues.

• 2:15:08Adam Sosnick?

  Hold on, Tom.

• 2:15:09Tom Ellsworth?

  He's defrauding three companies simultaneously claiming to be working for them full time.

• 2:15:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what it is.

• 2:15:14Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, but here's my question. If he's actually doing a good job and he's supposed to be working 40 hours.

• 2:15:18Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not getting his job done. That's why the guy fired him after a week.

• 2:15:21Adam Sosnick?

  Then if he's not doing a good job, then just fire the guy.

• 2:15:22Patrick Bet-David?

  If you would have paid attention to the story, you would have known that that's what I said in the first 30 seconds. So let me go to the next story.

• 2:15:27Adam Sosnick?

  That's how he got busted. We suddenly realized things were late and not happening.

• 2:15:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Sometimes I wonder why I talk. The idea, the idea with this story is, the idea with this story is the following. It's on the employer, but it comes down to the following. Five years ago during COVID, everybody said, go get the bag and get your money. Go, if another person pays you whatever, multiple, whatever, do it. I had a guy that got a raise with us due to threats and one of my COOs gave him a raise three times. And the last time he asked for the raise, I said, now it's on you. He's schooling you and you're falling for the trap. The guy ends up going from a $55,000 a year salary to a $120 at another company. The company realizes he's not real. They end up firing the guy and he's back to making $55,000 a year.

• 2:16:14Patrick Bet-David?

  We had a guy, just last year, okay, who we were paying W2. That's what I'm telling you. It's on you, on us. Guy's got a W2 full-time job with us. We're on a Zoom. Let's just say this guy's working out of Arizona. And I know because of people that he's working with at his new company, that he's working two multiple full-time jobs. I'm paying a full-time salary. This guy's got two full-time salaries. And I know he's got a full-time salary because the guy from the other company knew us because of value attainment related and he told us. Do you understand what's going on here? So he moves to the other, he moves to the other city claiming that he's still working full-time for us from the city that we hired him from. Because where his family's from. We're on a Zoom and I said, so how's everything in Phoenix, Arizona?

• 2:17:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I know he's not in Phoenix. I know he's not been in Phoenix for two months. And he says, oh, things are very good here. And very hot, very dry. He's not in Phoenix, Arizona. He's in a different place. You know what happened to him? Boom, we're moving on, next person. You know, because you know, you know, you know what it really comes down to? Is you're building your reputation and you're building your character and your career, that's going to catch up to you long term. And you have to be very careful with this. So whether you're somebody that's watching this and saying, I don't even know why they're talking about this. Many employers are being affected by this. And many younger people in their career think this is cool to do. Long term, people won't hire you if they find that this is what you're doing. But if you're so great at working from home, go start a business.

• 2:17:43Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're so good that you can work 140 hours a week, one of the main reasons why people don't start a business is because they're not willing to work 140 hours a week. They're not willing to work 120 hours a week. But go do your thing. By the way, another thing that we talked about at the Vault Conference, if you haven't yet registered, get your tickets. Bring your team with you. These are the types of things we process with everybody that's in the room. Let's go to the next story that I want to go to. Next story I want to go to. Okay.

• 2:18:08Patrick Bet-David?

  How YouTube won the battle for TV viewers. Okay. This is a Wall Street Journal story. Adam, is this the one that you send in a group text or? Yes, sir. I think this is the one that you sent a group text. Yeah, very good article. And let me read this to you folks. Rob, I don't know if we have a video on this or not. I think it's just a story. Just a story. YouTube became the most watched video provider on televisions in the US earlier this year, surpassing mobile devices with over a billion hours watched daily, outpacing Disney. Combined broadcast, cable and streaming services, according to Nielsen data. Our goal is for the YouTube app to be people's way into as much of the universe of video content that exists on the internet as possible, says Christian Ostalian, YouTube's Vice President of Product Management. The company is enhancing its TV app with features

• 2:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  like personalized content, feeds to keep viewers engaged longer. YouTube creators, including hosts. Rhett McLaughlin and Charles Lincoln Neal of Good Morning Circle Morning are producing longer, higher quarterly video content, like sketches, comedy and talk shows with TV accounting for 53% of viewership. There's a phenomenon that's going on right now. And wait, there's the YouTube icon on the television. I just mounted on my first apartment, said Neal. Research from Tibular Lab shows that viewers spend more time with content over 15 minutes on TV and longer videos. Midroll ads generated more revenue as Google shares 55% of commercial revenue with creators. By the way, if you're watching this right now, and you're staying with us in the last 30 minutes that we have together, can you

• 2:19:37Patrick Bet-David?

  take a picture on whatever way you're watching the content if it's on TV, tag us on X and just put hashtag PBD Podcast, tag me Patrick Bedavid, show it to us that you're watching this. I'm curious how you consume the content because when Rob was showing me the numbers last week, we had one of our best executive meetings ever quarterly. Tom called it the best one ever. My wife was blown away by the meeting that we had. It's just incredible the kind of products that we're producing right now internally and no one knows about it. Rob showed data that number two right now devices for us on how they watch the podcast, Rob, it's TV.

• 2:20:10Speaker 06

  Yes, sir.

• 2:20:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And I was around 34, 35% of it. Is that not, they watch this on TV on the YouTube app. Tom, your thoughts on this story?

• 2:20:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, guess what? Cable was what's called a walled garden. So you basically paid for cable with Comcast or DirecTV, cable or satellite, and you got your 100 or so channels, 30 of which mattered, the top ones, you know, your networks, CNN, all the ESPNs, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And that was called the walled garden. You couldn't go beyond the walled garden, even if there was something interesting, couldn't go behind it. And then a little thing called streaming happened. Streaming is just a fancy name for freedom of choice because now you've got the internet connected to your TV, all kinds of apps, or you can just go to the internet app, the Silk app, which is on many Samsung TVs, which is made by Silk, I believe it's made by Amazon, and it's an internet access. You go wherever you want.

• 2:21:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And watch right there on what they call the, instead of lean forward on a laptop or hunched over on the phone, it's the lean back on the couch, watching your connected TV. And so with freedom has come streaming, because it's no longer a walled garden, no longer controlled, and the new generation wants nothing to do with cable subscriptions, so they're not subscribing to cable. If it's pumped into their dorm room, they'll get it, but when it's their choice, no. It's streaming on their laptop and on their phone. So streaming as a delivery is winning. And then YouTube knows more about live and analytics of the customer and feeding them the right content than any of the traditional media companies who have been leaning on the walled garden.

• 2:21:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, we'll just pay this to Comcast and we'll get some promotion and we'll be at channel 20, so we're up low, so when you go with your remote control through the menu, we show up first. That was the game in the walled garden. Now, you've got internet geniuses in YouTube and access to great content providers like us, leading the way in podcasts, on video, on YouTube, and guess what? They're saying, "I know what you like, and I'm gonna feed this to you, this to you, this to you, this to you, this to you, and I'm gonna get longer sessions out of it." And so now YouTube is winning because they know how to deliver great content, and they're attracting great content providers, and the walled garden is dying. That's what's happening, and the walled garden is the reason, what we talked about earlier

• 2:22:29Tom Ellsworth?

  today, that I won't go into, except to say this: All those big contracts are dinosaurs. All those big contracts are dead. There may be a time where even Caitlin Collins', you know, rookie contract is dead, but that is even too much. And now you've got Anderson Cooper and everybody, their big contracts are going away. And we will find out, will people like Stephen A., will his contract, and he's a talent, and he's got a bunch of different shows, and he's got a bunch of different viewpoints and a bunch of different angles, but will ESPN be able to deliver enough audience that's watching him, plus the streaming? Or will Stephen A.'s contract become... You know, the Alex Rodriguez contract, which originally was signed, ended up being

• 2:23:12Tom Ellsworth?

  too big and they traded, not because Alex was a bad player, but because, you know, I signed this contract and I can't afford to pay this. And so, small teams sold to the big teams. Or will Alex Rodriguez contract become more like the Aaron Judge or the Shohei Otani contracts? That much of it's deferred and it's all going to be delivered. We will see what we will see, but right now, streaming is the top delivery. YouTube has got all the technology to find out exactly what to feed to you and they're attracting great providers such as us. And I'm not supposed to say this because we've got NDAs in place, but there have been larger, traditional network people that have come and knocked on Pat's door with a checkbook and we said no.

• 2:23:55Speaker 00

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• 2:24:25Speaker 01

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• 2:24:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and that last part, can we cut that last part?

• 2:25:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I didn't, I didn't name any letters and I'm trying to stay with the NDA, but...

• 2:25:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, your thoughts on the story?

• 2:25:07Speaker 05

  No, I'm just, I, I, I think it's fantastic and like just watching like the Stephen Colbert and all that stuff. People are just sick and tired of the nonsense. And it's like the numbers don't lie. The numbers don't lie. The fact that they're losing money, they lose, they've lost all credibility. When I'm home, Pat, you know, you could rent a movie on that, on YouTube if, if you want. It goes through your, uh, to your account. I watch, you could play music in the background. You could watch long form thing. You could watch the, the shows and everything on there. I'm, I'm so happy. Then mainstream is dying and YouTube is, is, is taking over. It's a great, it's a great thing. And guess what? We're on YouTube. Perfect.

• 2:25:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're, we're, we're on all platforms, but mainly when we go live, we're on YouTube.

• 2:25:47Speaker 05

  It's here. Oh, so we're in somebody's living, like right now, we're in living rooms. The majority are people right now at home, cooking, cleaning. By the way, I saw one where you saw that photo where there's like a, a six month old and the head is just like, it's the back of the head and you're on the screen. I love it.

• 2:26:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm on X right now. I'm seeing the different people. Here's a guy named, I don't even know how to pronounce it, Daru, watching, streaming from Jamaica. Another guy, Jeffrey Gunnels, okay, is watching it on, I don't know if that's a TV. He's watching on a TV. We got another one here. Oh, wow. Luffy. He's watching it on the TV. Uh, another guy's watching on his phone. It's just interesting seeing how people consume content today. Adam.

• 2:26:26Adam Sosnick?

  The thing with YouTube is you can get whatever you want at any time you want, from whoever you want, and you can do it in your own, the comfort of your own home, on the road, on the go. It doesn't matter. You know, they talk about having a mixed media diet. All right. I read the Wall Street Journal. I absorb Fox. I see CNN. I'll read Bloomberg, seeing it all there. YouTube is like a buffet of information. Remember the first time that, uh, when I started doing the podcast with PBD goes, are you familiar with, uh, absorbing information quickly called chunking?

• 2:26:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 2:26:56Adam Sosnick?

  I don't watch YouTube unless it's 2X speed. Everything I've listened to, if someone walks into a room and I'm listening to something, they're like, dude, are you insane? Cause it sounds like

• 2:27:08Adam Sosnick?

  the only person I can't listen to on 2X speed is Ben Shapiro. That guy just talks on 2X speed. But anything you want to learn, anything you want to know, anything, information you'd ever need is on YouTube. So versus. We all grew up in the eighties and nineties, whatever. We'd have to sit down on the couch, wait for our show to come on. You know, if it's a half hour show, it's really only 21 minutes and there's nine minutes of commercials. You're waiting. You might not even like the show and like, but your sister wants to watch the show. Those days are over. So YouTube allows you to do what the hell ever you want to do. It's like BK, you know, do it your way. And the last thing of this, to talk about profitability, to talk about Stephen Colbert, YouTube doesn't have

• 2:27:47Adam Sosnick?

  to pay you anything. It's like, you know, like if you're doing a farm league or AAA, unless you're good, YouTube will pay you zero money. Do you know what percentage of YouTube channels have over 100,000 subscribers? What percentage?

• 2:28:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Very small.

• 2:28:03Adam Sosnick?

  Less than 1%. Less than 1%. So you have all these people starting to do content, starting to build channels, starting to get eyeballs. YouTube can monetize those, put advertising behind it, and you won't make one penny. It's like a farm league. And if you get to 100,000 or a million, then YouTube will basically start paying you. But it's a great model for YouTube.

• 2:28:23Patrick Bet-David?

  True.

• 2:28:24Adam Sosnick?

  Horrible for people who want to try to make money early.

• 2:28:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this. Look at these tweets, Rob. Go back on the hashtag if you cannot. Look at that. So this is Chef Boya Bill, Boya Bill, watching a TV. By the way, whoever's birthday it is, happy birthday to you. Okay, that's one. Here's another one. Watching from the bedroom.

• 2:28:43Adam Sosnick?

  Still haven't gotten out of bed.

• 2:28:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Marie, whatever you're doing, I mean, that, listen.

• 2:28:46Adam Sosnick?

  That looks, hey!

• 2:28:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But.

• 2:28:49Adam Sosnick?

  It's eight, it's California.

• 2:28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  We love you for watching, Marie McDonald. Go to the next one. We forget California's very early when we start. This is another one on TV. If you zoom in, it's a Vizio TV. Melody Moses, watching this off TV. So this TV thing is really becoming a thing.

• 2:29:05Adam Sosnick?

  We look good. We look good.

• 2:29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, you look good.

• 2:29:07Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, we look, you look tan. Look at you.

• 2:29:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, I mean, that's just byproduct of living in Florida in a couple of weeks in Hampton.

• 2:29:13Adam Sosnick?

  It's almost like you're Middle Eastern or.

• 2:29:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Tyrone.

• 2:29:17Adam Sosnick?

  Tyrone.

• 2:29:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Tyrone. That Tyrone thing, Iranians were, you know, by the way.

• 2:29:22Adam Sosnick?

  What's your take on YouTube, by the way? I mean, you got in on YouTube early. What was, first video you ever did on?

• 2:29:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I got on 2013 YouTube was 04, the OGs came in early. No, when I got on, there was already PewDiePie 100 million subs. There was already a bunch of guys that, you know, had already established a name. We, we, we got started, uh, first clip we uploaded was December, uh, uh, go to that one with my pink socks on, which is absolutely fantastic. It's embarrassing, but if you go to oldest, go to the second one right there. Yeah. What's the date on that? 12 years. Okay. Can you just see what the date is? It is November 16th, 2012. November 16th. Please don't watch it. Okay. Skip it. Don't watch it because the socks I got on are just fantastic. Oh, wow. Look at this. This is. PBD, how old are you here? By the way. Wow. I know who bought my grandmother's couch.

• 2:30:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, watch your language. So that's us in Woodland Hills. Tom's trying, PBD? That's us in Woodland Hills. And guess what it looks like? It looks like the mountains are on fire in California in the back. If you look closely. They usually are.

• 2:30:24Adam Sosnick?

  I'll tell you what, Pat, based on that couch.

• 2:30:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Sit up, guy. Sit up straight. You're chill, but you're comfortable.

• 2:30:30Adam Sosnick?

  With the pink socks and that couch, you could have been in Chatsworth from the stories I hear.

• 2:30:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I was in Chatsworth. I knew a lot of the people in Chatsworth, but you can, you can remove this clip, Rob.

• 2:30:40Adam Sosnick?

  But sometimes.

• 2:30:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Some people can go behind the office and join this.

• 2:30:43Adam Sosnick?

  You know how they say like it's better to not necessarily be first? Sometimes it's better to be second or third.

• 2:30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Friendster was first.

• 2:30:49Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. Friend or Napster was first, whatever it was. A lot of people started doing YouTube in 04, 05, 08. They're just like, I've been doing this for five years, 10 years.

• 2:30:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:57Adam Sosnick?

  I'm out. And then all of a sudden you're building upon their momentum.

• 2:31:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Well, look, the reality of it is the game is changing, which is good. Uh, independent content creators are getting a voice, which is good. A lot of them will be at the Vault Conference this year. And for those of you guys that are saying, well, maybe, maybe I should create content. Maybe I should start a side gig. Maybe I should team up with somebody. Maybe I should go raise some capital. Maybe I should. Guy asked me a question on my neck. It's like, well, my mother. Just assign me to be the CEO of the business and I don't know what to do. And I'm like, listen, how many conferences do you go to? Once you get into business, a lot of the secret sauces are going to the events to learn from other people. And if you haven't yet, I'm telling you this right now, guys. If you haven't yet registered for this, go on that QR code. Make a decision.

• 2:31:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't tell me you have events on those days. Don't tell me next year. Please do not be part of the community that says I'm for sure going to go next year. There's nothing more annoying than people that say next year. You're your own worst enemy because you keep putting things off. Get registered. Bring you and your wife and say, babe, we got big dreams, big plans. We got to go around other people that got big dreams, big plans, and learn from them. Get a ticket for you and your spouse, your partner. Come spend three and a half days with us in Orlando, September 8th through the 11th. Cannot wait to see all of you there. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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