Dr. Joe Dispenza: Break Free Of The Addiction To Negative Thoughts & Emotions EP 1309

Dr. Joe Dispenza is an international speaker, researcher, author, and educator who is passionate about the findings from the fields of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics to explore the science behind spontaneous remissions. He uses that knowledge to help people heal themselves of illness, chronic conditions, and even terminal diseases so they can enjoy a more fulfilled and happy life as well as evolve their consciousness. In this episode you will learn:The three things that create excellence. How to fuel your brain with supernatural energy. Why it's so important to stay curious. And much more! For more go to lewishowes.com/1309Click here for more episodes from Joe Dispenza! Transform Your Mind To Manifest & Attract Financial Abundance: https://link.chtbl.com/1288-podUnlocking the Full Potential of Your Mind: https://link.chtbl.com/1256-podTransforming Your Mind for Lasting Love: https://link.chtbl.com/1054-podHack Your Mind & Heart To Change Your Life: https://link.chtbl.com/933-pod Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:00Joe Dispenza?

  And people do this in seven days of going all in. At the end of seven days, their body looks like genetically with all the metabolites that they're literally in a different environment.

• 0:15Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. I feel like a lot of people see you, Joe, and they see that you've got this mastery level of this. You've been teaching this for a long time and studying this. You've now got scientists and universities and research and all these different things

• 0:57Lewis Howes?

  proving the results in your studies over the last 20-plus years, 30 years now you've been doing this, 20-plus?

• 1:04Joe Dispenza?

  Long, long time.

• 1:05Lewis Howes?

  Since you were born, right? And I'm curious, and I think a lot of people listening or watching could be curious about, what is your thing that might come in every now and then as a limiting belief for you?

• 1:17Joe Dispenza?

  Oh, God. I'm no different than anybody else. I mean, of course, I mean...

• 1:22Lewis Howes?

  And what are those things then that hold you back or that maybe limit you or get you into the memories of a fear state as opposed to the future?

• 1:30Joe Dispenza?

  Look, it takes a lot for me to do what I do. I mean, there's a lot of...

• 1:35Lewis Howes?

  A lot of energy.

• 1:36Joe Dispenza?

  There's a lot of people that would love to see me fail, you know? And, you know, the beauty behind my, I think, my perseverance is that we're uncovering some really powerful truths for people to like really embrace. Like, I keep telling the scientists, "I can't believe this is the truth." I tell them that, like, "I can't believe this is the truth." We have the evidence right there that you could make your brain work better in four days. You could make your heart work better in four days. You could make your immune system 50% stronger in four days. You could regulate eight different genes in four days that are all promoting neurogenesis

• 2:18Joe Dispenza?

  and stem cell production and oxidative balance and all kinds of wonderful things. Cellular structures enhanced.

• 2:29Joe Dispenza?

  All of this stuff is really cool because if you don't know that that's possible, right, then it doesn't exist for you, right? If you're unconscious to the fact that you could heal yourself, you'll make the same choices you always do. So I'm challenged in my own way, at a different level, to do my best, to do the right, make the right choices all the time. And sometimes those choices, I can't rely on anybody else but me to make those choices because nobody else knows what it's like to be me than me. Even my closest friends think they know me. But when it comes down to making the choice, it's a lonely moment, right?

• 3:13Joe Dispenza?

  Because I'm doing my best to try to preserve this work and to inspire people to apply it in their lives as many ways as I can. So a lot of times I get discouraged, like, oh my God, another challenge, another challenge. But you know, I think, you know, when I'm truly in the right zone, I think the only way that we actually can grow in our lives is to be challenged, right? And I think that the greater, the greater we evolve or the greater we become, I think the greater the challenge is, you know. And so I have my own set of challenges that I have to really retreat from my life. I have to spend a lot of time alone and have to remember that vision and I have to get beyond all those other things that say, wow, my God, this is, this might be a good time for you to quit.

• 3:58Joe Dispenza?

  Or this is a good time for you to say, wow, this is getting pretty intense.

• 4:01Lewis Howes?

  What would you say is the biggest challenge? Is it the internal conversation about just?

• 4:05Joe Dispenza?

  No, it's just a lot of moving parts. We have a big team, we run events for thousands of people. We have staff, we have volunteers, we have scientists, we have papers. I mean, we have growth, we have websites, social media, and we have, it's just a lot. Yeah, a lot of moving parts. And so I think for me personally, I guess I could say this is, is that what I love to do more than anything else is to create, right? I mean, the meditations that I Develop and the things that I think about and the music that we work on creating, all that stuff. We've got great science to sh- I know now what music works. I know what words work.

• 4:48Joe Dispenza?

  I know the rhythm, I know the cadence, I know the mathematics of music that works really well. So like that stuff is the fun stuff. That's stuff, that's where I wanna be, in a studio and with the sound and making the right meditations for people to. But I'm running, you know, I'm running a lot, I'm doing a lot of things over here. So the balance in my life to be able to make time for myself and the people that I love and, and keep that private and keep that special and at the same time interface with the world and, and provide them the tools to make measurable changes in their lives. You know, you come up against a lot of challenges in that process.

• 5:26Lewis Howes?

  What do you think will be the biggest challenge you face over the next few years?

• 5:29Joe Dispenza?

  Oh gosh.

• 5:30Lewis Howes?

  Either personally, professionally, spiritually?

• 5:35Lewis Howes?

  Um, I think- Physically?

• 5:36Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, no, I just, I really just think it's my, it's, it's, it's my balance. You know, I mean, and we run, I mean, we run a week-long event, I'm-

• 5:44Lewis Howes?

  Once a month?

• 5:45Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, we're, but we're going, you know, six, five in the morning till, till seven, eight at night and, and but it doesn't matter to me because that's the easy part. Being at an event is like a spiritual rave. I mean, our events are, our events are like nothing you'll ever see.

• 5:58Lewis Howes?

  I've heard, I've had so many people go that listen to our interviews and they go and they're just like, "It's incredible you have to come." So I'm, this year, I'm committing.

• 6:07Joe Dispenza?

  You're not allowed, you're not allowed.

• 6:07Lewis Howes?

  I'm sneaking, I'm breaking through security.

• 6:09Joe Dispenza?

  No, you can't come, you can't come here.

• 6:11Lewis Howes?

  Disguising myself.

• 6:12Joe Dispenza?

  But I mean, I have, look, I have a lot of challenges, I have a lot of challenges, just like anybody, I'm no different than you, you know? I react, you know, of course, and you know, the, the question I have for myself is how long you're gonna do that for? Like, how long are you gonna keep that up? Like, well, you know better. So, so defaulting and remembering, I think, is, is such a great thing for us to do. So I work on that.

• 6:34Lewis Howes?

  So you might default to a, a reaction for, you give yourself, what, an hour, two hours?

• 6:38Joe Dispenza?

  No, I, I, well, I try, you know, I try to keep it under-

• 6:42Lewis Howes?

  Ten, fifteen minutes, but then it's sometimes a linger-

• 6:43Joe Dispenza?

  Well, of course, sometimes it's easier than others, just like anything else.

• 6:46Lewis Howes?

  What's the biggest trigger for you, I'm curious? What's the thing that gives you a default reaction that you're like, "Ah, I know I need to improve that"?

• 6:53Joe Dispenza?

  I, I, um- I think, I think the thing that I care the most about is, is really just keeping this work as pure as possible. I think I care a lot about that.

• 7:04Lewis Howes?

  Do people try to not, try to muck it up or something?

• 7:06Joe Dispenza?

  Well, there's always, there's always variations of it, you know, so I, I guess, I guess if you were, if I was really honest, I would wanna say that I would wanna keep it as pure as possible. That's what I work on.

• 7:16Lewis Howes?

  How do you keep it pure? What's pure mean?

• 7:18Joe Dispenza?

  Well, just, just in its, in its, in its, in its original, it's in its original version, right?

• 7:24Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Your, your morning and evening meditation is incredible. I don't know if people...

• 7:29Joe Dispenza?

  Well, that's, that's a great example of metacognition. That's a great example of reminding yourself of who you wanna be and who you no longer wanna be, and then check in at the end of the day, you say, "I had a whole lifetime today. How'd I do?"

• 7:39Lewis Howes?

  It's incredible. Yeah, and your evening meditation, I'll listen to the morning one and the evening often. And the evening one, you have this thing where it's like, "How did I show up? Did I show up as my best version of myself? And did I do the things I said I was gonna do?" You know, and it's a beautiful reminder of having accountability.

• 7:58Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, accountability is one of the three things that creates excellence. You know, accountability is, is basically owning what you say you're gonna do or what you're asked to do. The other element, of course, is competence. You gotta be really good at it. And if it takes you your whole life to get good at it, get good at it. And if you have a vision or a mission, it's bigger than you, and you put those three things together, you have a lot of excellence in an individual.

• 8:23Lewis Howes?

  Vision bigger than you.

• 8:24Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, you gotta be able to master your craft. You gotta, you gotta be really accountable and responsible for yourself. You gotta own yourself, and you gotta have that vision, and you gotta keep that vision alive. And that's heading in a direction. Purpose, mission is ongoing. You could have a mission to be healthy. You could have a mission to be wealthy. You could have a mission, you could have a purpose to be, you know, to gain knowledge. There's never an end, right? So it's a direction. The goals we set up along the line of our vision are just to remind us that we're still on course, right? And if we're not arriving at those goals, then we've lost our vision.

• 8:57Lewis Howes?

  Do you feel like each individual should have a vision statement for their personal or professional life? Or just have an idea of a vision in your mind?

• 9:04Joe Dispenza?

  No. I think it's really important for us to be curious. I mean, I'm the best when I wonder. Like I say, I always say, "Joe Dispenza, what do you know?" Sit down, don't turn your phone on, shut it off. Answer the question, what do you know? Like, what do you, you really believe you create reality? At what point do you stop believing that? You know? I mean, I really, I wanna know, I wanna think that through all the way because I think the more we understand what we're doing and why we're doing it, I think the how gets easier, right? So I spend a lot of time reviewing knowledge and information and thinking about ways to teach it better or easier for people that make it more practical, more simple. And I can tell you, there's such a quickening going on in our culture right now.

• 9:48Joe Dispenza?

  People are so ready to really embrace this information. They've had it doing in other ways and, and so, so taking that time to really think and contemplate is such an important process because when it gets stale and it gets routine and it gets boring, you just forgot what you were doing and why you're doing it, right? And sign it back up and relearn it and get down to the basics again.

• 10:11Lewis Howes?

  What was the biggest discovery you found in the last five to 10 years? Based on practicing, trying, learning, research? What was the thing that was like, wow, this is a, this is a new thing or a thing I thought that was gonna work and it's actually working?

• 10:26Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, wow, I don't know if we have enough time for that, but we have, we, the research that we're doing right now, Louis, I'll give you an example, like a drug study. You know, when you do a drug study, it's about 18, 25% correlative cause and effect, right? Our, our studies are 75% cause and effect. There's no pharmaceutical that looks anything like our studies. And the amount of wonderful metabolites that are being created in people's bodies.

• 10:57Lewis Howes?

  What is a metabolite?

• 10:58Joe Dispenza?

  It's like a cell is releasing information. Like, what is, what is the information? It's that the cell is saying, I'm in growth or I'm in trouble. I'm in emergency, I'm, I'm in disease, right? So in seven days at a week-long event, we, we discovered that people make thousands of different metabolites to show that their body is in a very different environment, very healthy environment and, and...

• 11:24Lewis Howes?

  Than when they walked in, the beginning?

• 11:25Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, and then they walked, dramatic changes. And I keep saying to the scientists... Where are those chemicals coming from?

• 11:34Lewis Howes?

  Where are they coming from?

• 11:35Joe Dispenza?

  Certainly not coming from some pill that you're taking. It's coming from within us. Our nervous system is the greatest pharmacy in the world. I mean, you take blood from an advanced meditator that hits a certain brainwave state. We capture that moment of connection. There's information in their blood

• 11:57Joe Dispenza?

  that causes them to be immune to viruses, any virus. You take the blood of the advanced meditator and you subject it to a uterine cancer cell. And seventy percent of the energy is diminished in the cancer cell. Lights are out.

• 12:16Lewis Howes?

  It shuts it down.

• 12:16Joe Dispenza?

  Shuts it down. What do cancer cells want to do? They want to move and they want to multiply. So if you take away energy, they can't move, they can't multiply.

• 12:26Joe Dispenza?

  It's exactly what we're seeing in our testimonials. You take the blood of an advanced meditator and you subject to a neuron. It down-regulates the gene for Alzheimer's. Like, there's wholeness. There's information in the chemistry of their blood that's not coming from anywhere out there. Their eyes are closed. The music's playing in the background. They're not eating, they're not taking, they're not doing, they're sitting still.

• 12:51Lewis Howes?

  They're not being massaged, they're not having like liquid.

• 12:54Joe Dispenza?

  They're not taking injections, no IVs, no. They're making strong compounds in their body.

• 13:03Lewis Howes?

  From within.

• 13:03Joe Dispenza?

  From within.

• 13:04Lewis Howes?

  Is that from thought into brain into heart body? How does that?

• 13:08Joe Dispenza?

  No, back to our original conversation about putting our attention on matter and putting our attention on energy. Well, the quantum field, right, is, you know, you look at reality, it's a particle in the wave, right? Particle is matter, the wave is energy. Okay, so it's a scientific fact that we perceive less than one percent of reality. And as a matter of fact, the mathematics say it's a hundred percent that we perceive less than one percent of reality. So don't exclude yourself from that as well. So we're missing out on a lot, right?

• 13:39Lewis Howes?

  So our perceptions, our faculties are only perceiving one percent of what's actually real.

• 13:45Joe Dispenza?

  That's exactly right. Yeah, it's amazing.

• 13:47Lewis Howes?

  So our sight, our taste, our smell, only one percent of our reality, of what's actually?

• 13:52Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 13:53Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 13:53Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, so we're missing out on a lot.

• 13:55Lewis Howes?

  So even if we can get to two or three percent, it'd be a whole new world.

• 13:58Joe Dispenza?

  Called enlightenment, yeah.

• 14:01Joe Dispenza?

  So then, so then what we teach people to do is take their attention off the particle, off matter, and put it on energy. And you can't experience that energy with your senses. So you're gonna experience it with your awareness, okay? So what happens?

• 14:15Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 14:16Joe Dispenza?

  A person changes their brainwaves from high beta, that aroused state we talked about earlier, they start sensing space, their brainwaves slow down to alpha. Why? Because when you're sensing, you're not analyzing and thinking. If you're not analyzing and thinking, you're not in beta. So you start dropping down and the brain switches to alpha. And in alpha, your inner world tends to be more real than your outer world. Alpha is a creative state, okay? So in beta, the voice in your head is always talking to you. Do this, do that, it's that default, right? In alpha, the voice kind of goes away and you see more in images and pictures. You're dreaming, right? You're remembering stuff and it's more imagery, right? So it's an imaginary state. When we see people move into that state, they don't just move into any kind of alpha. They move into that coherent alpha.

• 15:01Joe Dispenza?

  And now the whole brain is in cadence. It's sending out very strong signals, right? If you can get a person dialed down into theta, where they're completely relaxed, the body is so relaxed that it's resting in a light sleep.

• 15:15Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 15:16Joe Dispenza?

  And they're still awake and they're conscious. The door between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind is wide open to information. In fact, theta is a hypnotic state. So when you're being hypnotized, you're suggestible to whatever somebody's telling you, right? But if you're in a meditation and you're suggestible to information, but your eyes are closed, there's music playing in the background, you're disconnected from your environment, there's only one other place information can come from, and that's frequency. Frequency carries information. Wifi signals, radio waves, TV waves, they're all carrying information and that antenna decodes it, okay?

• 15:50Lewis Howes?

  It's just kind of crazy when you think about it. You know, 10 years ago, if you'd have said, hey, you're gonna have a physical device and you can see someone across the world.

• 15:57Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 15:58Lewis Howes?

  We'd have been like, what? How is this even possible?

• 16:00Joe Dispenza?

  So Star Trek, right?

• 16:00Lewis Howes?

  It's crazy, right?

• 16:02Joe Dispenza?

  So that's exactly what the brain does. It transduces frequency.

• 16:08Joe Dispenza?

  Into very profound experiences internally. And when that happens, the person is suggestible to information. The more coherent their brain and heart is, the more there's a resonance between the unified field, which is an orderly field, there's order, and the order in their brain. And the brain can decode frequency. And all of a sudden, the person goes into these brilliant, brilliant states of high gamma. Not a little gamma, not a lot of gamma.

• 16:34Lewis Howes?

  And what happens when we're in our highest state of gamma?

• 16:37Joe Dispenza?

  They're in a very aroused state.

• 16:39Lewis Howes?

  Spiritually aroused?

• 16:40Joe Dispenza?

  No, the arousal's not fear. The arousal's not pain. And the arousal's not aggression. The arousal is ecstasy. The person is feeling a very familiar unfamiliar feeling where they feel like they forgot something that they knew all their entire life. They start connecting to energy. And there's no word. People say bliss, ecstasy, more love than I could ever explain. I'm so grateful.

• 17:04Lewis Howes?

  Transcendence, whatever.

• 17:05Joe Dispenza?

  Whatever that is. And we actually can induce that state. We can predict it and we can replicate it. And the scans look exactly the same thing. And it's not the thinking brain that is in that aroused state. The lights are out there. They're in theta, they're shut. It's the limbic brain, the seat of the autonomic nervous system, that's sending such fast coherent information to every single cell in the body. And it's energy that's touching the cell. And the person feels like they're electric. They feel like there's an awakening that takes place. Now, what comes with that, many times, is a biological upgrade. Energy starts to inform matter. There's a tumor, now it's gone. There's the Parkinson's, now it's gone.

• 17:49Joe Dispenza?

  There's the eczema, now it's gone.

• 17:51Lewis Howes?

  You see this all the time at your events.

• 17:52Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, it's kind of wild, yeah, yeah. So what we're doing is we're drawing the blood.

• 17:56Lewis Howes?

  From people at the event.

• 17:57Joe Dispenza?

  That have that experience, right after they have that experience. And 24 hours later. And we're finding the most incredible things in that blood. That's why I keep saying, where is that? Where's that, where's that, all those chemicals coming from? Where are all those?

• 18:12Lewis Howes?

  It's not from a medicine.

• 18:14Joe Dispenza?

  It's so cool. It's coming from within us, right? So, so, so the data that we have, we did the largest microbiome study in, in the world, actually. We, we did a thousand people and we had, you know, measured, you know, human microbiome. There's more cells that, that live in your body than the cells that make up your body. And they have dramatic influences on so many different functions in our body. And in just our preliminary studies, we saw the, the microbiome that's associated with cancer growth dramatically reduced.

• 18:51Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 18:52Joe Dispenza?

  We saw the microbiome that's associated with, with inflammation dramatically reduced. We found the microbiome that causes a person to be resistant from treatment for cancer significantly reduced. Like we're just finding all this crazy stuff.

• 19:10Lewis Howes?

  When these scientists are, are seeing this data that they're working with the people that come to your events and they're seeing this massive reduction.

• 19:17Joe Dispenza?

  They were all skeptics, by the way.

• 19:18Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. And what do they say when they see?

• 19:20Joe Dispenza?

  Okay.

• 19:20Lewis Howes?

  Are they like?

• 19:21Joe Dispenza?

  No, no, no, in the beginning, they were running the tests, the same tests over and over again, expecting to get a different result.

• 19:31Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 19:32Joe Dispenza?

  And, and I said to them, you're changing your belief. You're doing that right now. You're changing a belief right now. They're looking and seeing, oh my God, cells are not behaving the way they should in this plasma.

• 19:45Lewis Howes?

  Let's run it again.

• 19:46Joe Dispenza?

  It's, let's run it again. Let's do it another way. Let's do it. And they tried all different ways and they're like, oh my God, this is, this is incredible. This is, this is, we've never seen anything like this before. So, again, why is that important? The testimony of the person who stands on the stage and says, I didn't have $2 to rub together and now I, I'm worth hundreds of millions of dollars. The person who says, I was diagnosed with stage four cancer. It was in my bones. It was in my liver. It was in my lungs. It was in my, you know, my, my pelvic organs is not a. Drop a cancer in her blood. And this happens all the time. It's the four-minute mile. It's the person in the audience who's looking at, looking at truth. That person's the example of truth. Truth is right in front of them.

• 20:31Joe Dispenza?

  And the story is not glamorous. You know, they got worse before they got better. They lost things. The doctors told them they were gonna die. I mean, they had every reason to give up on themselves. And man, when you hear those stories, I mean, the whole audience is in tears. Invariably, somebody in the room is looking at them and saying, "If he can do it, I can do it." Yes. Invariably, when we put up that data, the scientists put it up. I always say, "I'm not, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying this. The data's saying that." People see that data, they're so encouraged. "That's the truth. That's the truth." Like, "Wow, we are greater than we think. We're more powerful than we know. We're more unlimited than we could ever dream." Right?

• 21:15Joe Dispenza?

  And we're just starting to push that envelope a little bit. And we have never been disappointed. We, we do these experiments with random event generators, right? With what? A random event generator. Random event generator. Like, so it's a sophisticated coin toss. And you toss a coin, you keep tossing it. The more you toss it, the more it's gonna be 50/50. 50% heads, 50% tails. The more you toss it, it's gonna be the 50% average. So this programmed machine flips a coin 1,000 times in one second. We get a collective network of observers, a collective consciousness of people that are all resonating at the same frequency. We teach them how to do that.

• 21:57Joe Dispenza?

  And the moment they go into a certain state, random events are no longer random, and they become very intentional. In other words, they're influencing a machine that's programmed to go 50/50, to behave in a very different way. Their, their, their energy is somehow altering the mechanism of a machine. Huh, really? Over and over again. So then, okay, so something's happening where random events are no longer random. They're becoming more intentional. And the collective network of observers that have brain and heart coherence somehow can produce measurable effects in reality. Okay, so then we said, "God, it happened every time." Let's take cells and let's program these bacterial cells to either make a red protein

• 22:42Joe Dispenza?

  or a green protein, and it's a 50/50 shot too. And of course, if you look at a colony of bacteria, you see this kind of brownish color. And if you get really close, there's red ones and there's green ones, and it's usually 50/50. You get a whole group of people together and I tell them to focus on green. And all of a sudden, the colony of cells switch over to-

• 23:01Lewis Howes?

  Come on. Wow.

• 23:03Joe Dispenza?

  So, so, so again, so again, like if you don't know that that's possible-

• 23:08Lewis Howes?

  You'd be skeptical.

• 23:08Joe Dispenza?

  You'd be skeptical, but, but the scientists are scratching their heads, saying, "I'm, we're up all night trying to figure this stuff out," right?

• 23:13Lewis Howes?

  What are they, what are they saying is the cause of it?

• 23:16Joe Dispenza?

  There has to be some quantum entanglements, so we're bringing in quantum-

• 23:19Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 23:19Joe Dispenza?

  Quantum theorists, you know, theoretical physicists, information physicists. We have, you know, just all kinds of, we're doing functional MRIs now, you know, looking at brains. We're doing, we have, we can, we can actually study brains when people are walking now. And it was just, we're just, we're trying to piece together what exactly it is. And, and so, to me, that's a good reason to get up in the morning.

• 23:44Lewis Howes?

  Keep learning and discovering and creating and-

• 23:47Joe Dispenza?

  Every time we do an experiment, every time we do an experiment, we're never disappointed. And the cool thing about it, more than anything else for me, is that you don't have to be a Buddhist monk. You don't have to have 40 years of devotion. You don't have to, in fact, it's better off that you don't. A lot of guys that come, that their girlfriends or their wives bring them, they're just like, "Hey dude, listen, I have no idea. I don't know anything about this." Those are the guys that do the best.

• 24:15Lewis Howes?

  Kind of forced to come here.

• 24:16Joe Dispenza?

  No, they come there like, "I don't know anything, just tell me what to do." They do exactly what we tell them to do. We had, we had some really, really elite forces, you know, come recently that, you know, that those guys had some, some rough roads, you know, with trauma.

• 24:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 24:31Joe Dispenza?

  Completely different guys, completely different guys. I mean, completely different, yeah.

• 24:36Lewis Howes?

  I'm curious your thoughts on, I have two questions. One that just came to me. What is your, what do you think, if you could predict the future, about what is coming? Of, in terms of discoveries in this work that you're doing? In the next 10 years, what's possible for us to even go even farther than you're seeing right now?

• 24:55Joe Dispenza?

  I think we'll, I think we'll have a very strong intervention in cancer.

• 24:59Lewis Howes?

  Intervention.

• 24:59Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, yeah, we'll have some really important data to show people that they can turn that around. We have too many case histories and we have too much really good data right now. I think we'll, I think we'll change a lot with people that have chronic pain and inflammation. We have great data to change anxiety and depression without any exogenous substance. PTSD, we have great results with that. Our coherence healings, where we're healing other people. Blind people are seeing, I mean deaf people are hearing. I mean, people with paralyzed limbs are lifting their arms above their heads again. I mean, this is after 10 years of being.

• 25:37Lewis Howes?

  That's great.

• 25:38Joe Dispenza?

  So we, I mean, I've seen, if you asked Joe Dispenza two years ago, do you think you'd be seeing what you'd be seeing, that'd be like maybe once or twice. It's just, we had so many people step out of wheelchairs at our events. I mean, it happens.

• 25:51Lewis Howes?

  It's happening over and over now.

• 25:52Joe Dispenza?

  Over and again, it's, it's just part of the collective consciousness. And I think more than anything else, collective networks of observers determine reality. And who controls the information, the right information controls reality. And so my job, my interest is to give people the information to empower them to be the creator of their life and not be stuck in the program that they need someone or something or to make them happy or to change their state. I mean, people are doing it all the time now. And that's just who we are as human beings, right?

• 26:30Lewis Howes?

  So when you say collective network, I'm curious, can a group of people influence healing in another person?

• 26:40Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:41Lewis Howes?

  Like if they're all in a certain state of emotional belief?

• 26:44Joe Dispenza?

  My answer, my answer, no, no, my answer is 100% yes.

• 26:47Lewis Howes?

  Is it 1,000 people?

• 26:48Joe Dispenza?

  No, no, just eight, seven, six people with one person.

• 26:51Lewis Howes?

  And what would that group of people need to be thinking, feeling, being?

• 26:55Joe Dispenza?

  Oh my God, you have to come to an event, bro. You have to come. It's just like hitting a golf ball. Just learn the formula and get really good at it. And we have people that are really, really good at it.

• 27:07Lewis Howes?

  Want to master this stuff.

• 27:08Joe Dispenza?

  They can hit a target. In fact, they have very little disbelief that they could do it, right?

• 27:16Lewis Howes?

  And that belief causes them to create.

• 27:18Joe Dispenza?

  Right, but what we discovered, it's not the number of people with the most amount of emotion, most amount of energy. That's, you got a stadium full of people and that's, that's very entropic energy. It's the collective network that's sending the greatest signal. That's brain heart coherence. Now that's information, right? That's what seems to entrain matter.

• 27:39Lewis Howes?

  And it's learning how to send that signal with the right.

• 27:41Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, and it's just training. Seven days, you go all in. I can tell you at the end of seven days, you'll be different.

• 27:46Lewis Howes?

  I'm excited for this. I'm curious, I mean, mental health seems to be, you mentioned kind of anxiety, depression, and these different states that people could come in with, especially people with trauma from the past, whether it be ex-military, special forces, people that see and maybe have to do certain things that they're not excited about, and that has these traumas.

• 28:06Joe Dispenza?

  Prisoners.

• 28:07Lewis Howes?

  Prisoners, yeah. Mental health just seems like something everyone's talking about with the rise of a lot of things. Covid, depression, social media, disconnection, all these different things.

• 28:19Lewis Howes?

  What is your stance?

• 28:20Joe Dispenza?

  Technology.

• 28:21Lewis Howes?

  Technology, yeah. Just the feeling connected but not connected, all these things. What's your thoughts on healing these mental health challenges or?

• 28:30Joe Dispenza?

  We have really, yeah, so we have really good data.

• 28:35Joe Dispenza?

  Primarily for mental health conditions like PTSD, anxiety, depression, cyclic mood disorders, you know, OCD, things like that. But when it comes to psychoses, you know, we just, we just stay away from that because it's a pathology at that point, and you know, people can come, but they have to stay on their medications, and they have to, you know, they, this is just a little bit different game.

• 28:55Lewis Howes?

  But if people have more depressed states, more?

• 28:57Joe Dispenza?

  We have brain scan after brain scan to show that you could change that.

• 29:00Lewis Howes?

  You can change it.

• 29:01Joe Dispenza?

  Really.

• 29:02Lewis Howes?

  So is this a?

• 29:02Joe Dispenza?

  So like, so like, so like, trauma, yeah, like if you don't know, and again, I don't know everything.

• 29:09Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 29:10Joe Dispenza?

  But what I do know is that when the brain starts functioning in a level of order, coherence. More neurons are recruited in bigger communities. And that kind of holism that's created is so important. The other thing we realize is that when people really heal their heart, they heal their mind. There's no, I have no doubt about that. You cannot do one without the other. And when there's enough energy in the heart, and we've seen this. We've got the, we've got the technology to see that when the heart starts working, when people start doing it properly, there's this low frequency in the heart that starts to rise. It's only indigenous to the heart because they have their attention on it. Where you place your attention is where you place your energy.

• 29:55Joe Dispenza?

  So they're filling the gas tank up. And when it gets to a certain point, here comes the parasympathetic nervous system saying, get out of the stress response, get relaxed. And then all of a sudden, you think that would be over. But it's not. Then the parasympathetic nervous system drops down and the sympathetic nervous system comes up. And when the sympathetic nervous comes up, now the person's relaxed and awake. Like they're really relaxed in their heart and they're really awake in their brain. That state is so much better than being stressed out and unconscious in a program, right? So it turns out, when you get to that state, when the heart starts informing the brain,

• 30:34Joe Dispenza?

  it resets the baseline for the trauma that's stored in the brain, in the amygdala. It's informing the brain that the event is over. Because the emotion that they're feeling is dragging the body out of the past. Yes. Right to the present. And when they feel the glory, that really rich feeling where it's like, oh my God, this is something I haven't felt since I was nine years old or six years old. And it's this familiar feeling in their heart, the words many people use, blows wide open. When they look back at their past, their trauma, the loss, the betrayal, the abuse, sexually, physically, emotionally. So many times, the person doesn't want to change one thing.

• 31:19Lewis Howes?

  Why is that?

• 31:20Joe Dispenza?

  Because it brought him to this moment. Now, the moment is okay, and all of that's okay, because I'm okay. And they look back at their betrayers and their abusers, and they have nothing but compassion. They see the whole thing. They're seeing their past from a greater level of consciousness, right? So it resets the baseline, and the event is over. And there goes the endometriosis. There goes the suicidal tendencies. There goes the rashes. There goes the gum disease, whatever it is. Just the body gets an upgrade. It's no longer believing it's in the same trauma 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, because they're living unconsciously or subconsciously in that emotional program, right?

• 32:02Joe Dispenza?

  So then, what happens to that person? They belong to the future now. They no longer belong to the past. And so, it's almost like they don't even have to do much now. It's almost like they're happy for no reason. And they're okay with themselves.

• 32:21Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 32:22Joe Dispenza?

  And when you're okay with yourself, you're okay with everybody. That's just the way it is, right? So, this is one woman told a story. She had a lot of abuse in her life, a lot of abuse by a lot of family members. And she was in her meditation, and she thought, "I'm doing this all wrong." The amount of emotion just came out of nowhere. And she was about ready to give up. And then she thought about the nine months or year, however long it was, where she never missed a day of doing her meditation. And she said it was just like, it was such a horrible feeling that she didn't think she could go any further. And then she just said, "I'm just gonna go one more time."

• 33:07Joe Dispenza?

  And she just went right past it, and then... Heart blew, eye opened. Wow. Literally reborn, literally a different person. Like, like every biological condition that she had, every mental health condition. Gone. All the supplements, all the drugs, all that stuff, gone away. And so then the question is, what happens when the chemo isn't working? What happens when the radiation isn't working? What happens when the surgery didn't work? What happens when the ketogenic, gluten-free, vegan diet didn't work? What, what now? Right, what now? Because a cancer researcher on the stage with stage four sarcoma. She did all the drug trials. And she was a researcher.

• 33:52Joe Dispenza?

  A cancer researcher. And she had the cancer. Had the cancer, nothing was worse. She did all the drug trials, all the chemo. Tried the vegan, she tried the this. Everything, the rare, rare gene, 1.001% of the population. She's a physician, she's a researcher. She made sense to her.

• 34:10Joe Dispenza?

  No cancer in her, anywhere, not in her bones any longer. I mean, out of the bones, I mean, it's insane. I mean, you ask any physician, if something metastasizes to the bones, you're pretty much gonna be with that for a long, long time. All of a sudden, it's gone. Like, you know, so like, again, those kind of things, those four-minute miles, give people permission to step into that same, same footprint. So what is the point? When all those other things aren't working, and it only means one other thing, it's not gonna work unless I change. And nothing changes in my life until I change, right? And that's the thing that people start to understand. It wasn't about her healing, it was about her disbelief.

• 34:51Joe Dispenza?

  It was about her emotions, that she mismanaged her emotions, under too much stress. And she's like, oh my God, nobody's worth this, like, nobody. Is worth this is not loving to me. I gotta stop this. I understand now what I'm doing to my brain and my body by doing this. Big moment, right? And you look around and not a lot of other people are thinking this way, but you come to an event and everybody is, but out in the world, you know, it's just the program is like you need something out there. That didn't work. We have something else for you. Right? So that's a lot of taking our power back, you know, in those circumstances.

• 35:25Lewis Howes?

  I'm curious your thoughts on this. I've never done this. I have tons of friends that have done this. Ayahuasca and other types of medicines, right? Or plant medicines, I guess they call it, right? Been invited a bunch of times. I know a bunch of people that do this. I've just never done it. And I'm curious what your thoughts are on plant medicines in terms of helping you heal, or can it really help you? Or is it more a crutch?

• 35:56Joe Dispenza?

  Here's my thought about it. And it's a tight rope for me to walk this. I think that a lot of plant medicines fit into the same receptors serotonin and melatonin and they tweak the brain to fire in a different way, which gives us an altered perception from outside of ourselves, which for a lot of people, we need that.

• 36:19Lewis Howes?

  Step away from where you're

• 36:21Joe Dispenza?

  You're just seeing reality from a different dimension. You're not seeing it from you. You're seeing it from a different place. And for some people, that journey is painful and it creates nausea and vomiting and, you know, and some people wind up getting really trapped. And other people have really profound experiences, right? So if the person has the transcendental experience from the plant medicine, my most fundamental important question for them is, what are you going to do with that?

• 36:48Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 36:49Joe Dispenza?

  Is that going to change your lack? Is that going to change your life? If that insight somehow causes you to act on it, because it changes your perception of the world, and it truly causes you to be whatever it is, whatever the experience is, to take that piece with you. And use it in some way. That's great, but for many people insight never changes behavior. You can understand that your father was overbearing. You could understand that Saturn is in the wrong house. You know, you can, all of that stuff. You could understand that, you know, that there's a chemical imbalance in your brain. None of that. You could understand all kinds of things, but that won't really change your life. Really? It doesn't really change your life.

• 37:33Joe Dispenza?

  So there are people who have done 65 ayahuasca sessions because they have cancer and the cancer hasn't changed. My advice to them is try something else.

• 37:42Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 37:43Joe Dispenza?

  Right? Just come on. Come on. Let's just, just, let's make a different move here. So, so my concern is, is that this is human nature. Everybody has this, you know? You take something and it makes pain go away. You take something and it gives you an altered perception of whatever. You notice that you got a change in your body. You remember what caused it. And so every time you feel that whatever, you remember to do that, right? So now you got a dependency on something outside of you.

• 38:08Lewis Howes?

  On a substance outside of you.

• 38:10Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, so, right, right. So then, so now you need that substance in order to take away, take away, yeah, take away the other feeling. That's not what this work is about. This work is about actually self-regulating and changing that feeling without anything outside of you, right? Does that create mystical experiences? Profound mystical experiences in our work. Do we have the data? Yeah, we have great data suggests that those high gamma states, the person is having a full-on sensory experience without their senses. And the brain is not having a little bit of energy. It's not having a lot of energy. It's having a supernatural amount of energy, like more than you would ever record. Like, the brain is way outside of normal. Way outside of normal. Like hundreds of standard deviations outside of normal in that state.

• 38:55Joe Dispenza?

  So, so it's important then for us to realize that if, if we're using that substance to regulate our emotional state, I would say to that person, work on changing that emotional state before you take the substance and then take the substance and have a great trip.

• 39:13Lewis Howes?

  There you go, yeah.

• 39:14Joe Dispenza?

  Have a fun trip, right?

• 39:17Lewis Howes?

  What is the, the biggest fear you have moving forward?

• 39:21Joe Dispenza?

  I really don't really have a whole lot of fears in moving forward. I feel really good about my team. I feel really good about our research.

• 39:28Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 39:28Joe Dispenza?

  I feel really good about the way we run events. I mean, of always, you know, we, there's always growth pains, you know, and, you know, we, we outgrow things and we have to do things different, you know, differently.

• 39:39Lewis Howes?

  Do you have any personal fears?

• 39:41Joe Dispenza?

  I just wanna stay healthy enough to be able to continue to do this. I'd love to get some people that I trust to be able to help me do some of this, you know, on the stage a little bit more.

• 39:53Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure.

• 39:54Joe Dispenza?

  And I really wanna make this work not about me. I never want it to be about me. I want it to be about you, you know, and, and I, and I do really, you know, I do my best to try to be the example.

• 40:03Lewis Howes?

  Sure.

• 40:04Joe Dispenza?

  Of everything that I teach.

• 40:05Lewis Howes?

  Is your, uh, is your age out there, public?

• 40:09Joe Dispenza?

  I think so.

• 40:11Lewis Howes?

  How old are you now?

• 40:12Joe Dispenza?

  My body's sixty years old.

• 40:13Lewis Howes?

  Your body's sixty?

• 40:14Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 40:15Lewis Howes?

  What's your mind?

• 40:17Joe Dispenza?

  Oh, gosh, I think I have a pretty good mind.

• 40:19Lewis Howes?

  Your body's sixty?

• 40:20Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 40:21Lewis Howes?

  Holy cow, I didn't even connect with that when you just said that. That's amazing. You're looking incredible.

• 40:26Joe Dispenza?

  Thanks, bro.

• 40:27Lewis Howes?

  I'm about, uh, I'm, in a year, I'm gonna be forty. If you could go back to when you were forty, twenty years ago.

• 40:34Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 40:35Lewis Howes?

  Man, you look incredible at sixty. That's amazing. Your energy, it's incredible. If you could go back to forty, which I'm gonna be in about a year.

• 40:42Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 40:44Lewis Howes?

  And you could just give me some advice, or you could go back and give your forty year old self some advice. What would you wish you knew and what decisions do you wish you would have taken for any area of life, whether it's flossing your teeth more or financially or emotions?

• 40:57Joe Dispenza?

  Really, really would be to lighten up.

• 41:00Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 41:00Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, just lighten up.

• 41:01Lewis Howes?

  Were you too tight?

• 41:02Joe Dispenza?

  No, at forty, I was driven, right? I was driven and it was okay because, I mean, I think, you know, being driven is really great, but then when I started to really wanna experiment with creating from the field instead of from matter, if I decided to create something, then I went in and did it. That I didn't let the creation happen because I got in there.

• 41:21Lewis Howes?

  You were driven.

• 41:22Joe Dispenza?

  I was driven, I was in the habit of doing it, do, do, do, do, do, right? So at forty, I just started to experiment with it a little bit more and I think I learned how to, I had to, I had to inhibit the need to kind of do it because on some level I doubted it was going to happen. Right? So at forty, I was just starting to experiment a little bit more with this. I mean, this is when I was getting interested in it. So I probably tell myself to lighten up and make it more playful. I mean, I'm really good when I'm goofy and silly and playful and curious. It's not really good when I'm rigid and forcing. It's just not, it's just not me.

• 41:59Lewis Howes?

  Well, when people are act like, childlike and they're playful and goofy and silly, what occurs in life when they come from that state versus a driven state in general?

• 42:09Joe Dispenza?

  I think we make room for the unknown. I think, like, I don't, like, I don't, when I, I mean, you watch me at events, I get really, I'm tired and I'm super happy. Like tired and happy for me is like the perfect formula. Like if I'm tired and happy, I see weird things. I have weird experiences. I mean, I get a lot of weird stuff. So, so, I mean, because I think my brainwaves are probably in theta, like I'm wide open, you know?

• 42:32Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:33Joe Dispenza?

  But, but I think it's so important for people to be curious, like when I'm wondering, like I'm really wondering, like what would it be like to have this experience? And I really, really go down the rabbit hole with it. I love that, right? Because then, and if I don't, if I come to a certain point and I don't know what happens next, I'm gonna go look it up. I'm not gonna get on social media and say, does anybody know anything about? I'm not gonna do that.

• 42:57Lewis Howes?

  Research.

• 42:58Joe Dispenza?

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna own it. I'm gonna own that content so that when I sit down to actually create that experience, I have enough information to believe it's possible, right? So, so. I think when nothing is left to conjecture, when nothing's left to superstition, when nothing's left to dogma, and people know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it, the how gets so instrumental because we assign meaning to it. Here's an example. You can take a person and put them in an ice bath. They know nothing about anything. They get an ice bath. In a minute, they're gonna be in hypothermia, and that ice bath is gonna be really bad for them.

• 43:34Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 43:35Joe Dispenza?

  Take that same person, teach him a few things, have him assign meaning to it, make them look for the value in it, put him back in the ice bath, turn on the prefrontal cortex, and the prefrontal cortex will silence all the circuits in the brain that say it's bad for you. And now you'll get value out of it. It's the same thing, you know? It's the same exact thing. So, so assign meaning to the act of creation, right? Like, I'm never gonna stop learning about that because there's more tools, more raw materials. So I always say to people, you wanna be healthy? You wanna be wealthy? Study.

• 44:08Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 44:08Joe Dispenza?

  Get it, get real.

• 44:09Lewis Howes?

  Learn.

• 44:09Joe Dispenza?

  Real with the process. So, you wanna become a mystic? Study the mystics. I mean, read about them. Listen to what they're saying, right?

• 44:19Lewis Howes?

  If you wanna heal your body and your mind, then go study you and go to one of your events.

• 44:23Joe Dispenza?

  No, no, don't, don't, go, go watch the testimonials.

• 44:25Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 44:26Joe Dispenza?

  Watch those people. I always say, when they send me the testimonials, that's like, that's food for me.

• 44:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 44:30Joe Dispenza?

  I always say, I call them up and I say, "She's speaking the truth." And it's not coming from me.

• 44:36Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 44:36Joe Dispenza?

  She's just telling the story. And I always say to people, "Don't, don't, don't ask her what meditation she did. It has nothing to do with it. It's how she changed, how he changed." He's talking about change. Like, this guy is stepping out of a wheelchair in Cancun with ALS, you know, or some rare weird condition. He was in a wheelchair. He's walked up to the stage, you know, at the end of the event. And I was backstage with him. He didn't say, "How come I'm not all the way healed?" He said, "You know, I'm just starting to figure this thing love out. I think if I can feel deeply, my body, it's gonna be good for my body. It's gonna be loving to my body. And I know that I can signal the gene if I do it." So, this is like, he's...

• 45:16Joe Dispenza?

  He owns a juice bar and he's like in the game. Like it's, he's assigning meaning that if I can feel the emotion ahead of the experience, I'm signaling the gene ahead of the environment. I gotta get better at this feeling of love. I gotta, I gotta get more into it. I gotta assign meaning to it now. Now I'm gonna get greater value from it. I gotta get it, right? And then the other thing, people come to a week-long event, they think, I don't think I'm changing. You know people who, you know those people?

• 45:45Lewis Howes?

  Yes, this doesn't work for me.

• 45:47Joe Dispenza?

  That, you know what? If you go all in, I can tell you that's not the truth. So you're crossing the river, but you don't see the evidence yet. Why would you stop? It was like running a marathon. You're halfway through and you're gonna quit, right? You just keep, I can tell you there are dramatic biological changes that'll happen if you go all in.

• 46:04Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 46:04Joe Dispenza?

  Not in, not in just a small percentage, in almost 100% of the people. Like, everybody who goes all in has profound metabolic changes. Go all in.

• 46:14Lewis Howes?

  Oh, man. Every time you come on, I'm inspired. I'm remembering so much about my future, which I love. Cause I think a lot of us are remembering our past and not our futures, which I love that statement that you share. And it just gives me so much more hope of what's possible for people.

• 46:32Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 46:33Lewis Howes?

  And so many people have been messaging me from the last interview saying, I went to his event. It's transformed my life, all these different things. And I want everyone to go to DrJoeDespensa.com and sign up for your, your, you know, website, your newsletter. Get on the list. So, because when your events happen, every month, they sell out within like minutes or an hour. So I want people to have access to it. Your books are incredible. They're incredible. Your meditation is, I think it's a must that people should at least explore and try. I love the morning and evening one. There's so many incredible free resources. All the research that you guys are doing is also, I believe, up on the website with all the different research that's available now.

• 47:13Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, yeah, of course. There's tons of scientific research, yeah.

• 47:16Lewis Howes?

  Everything that you guys wanna see is up at DrJoeDespensa.com. Your social media is great, obviously, so make sure to follow you on social media. How can we be of best support to you right now for this next year before we get you back on in a year?

• 47:31Joe Dispenza?

  Be the example that you, be the example. I mean, show the world what greatness looks like. Show the world what love looks like. Show the world what patience looks like. Show the world what leadership looks like. Show the world so that you can give people permission to say, wow. Something's different about you. Like, what is it?

• 47:48Lewis Howes?

  I want something.

• 47:49Joe Dispenza?

  What is that? Don't go around telling people you need to shorten, you know, forgive your father, you need to shorten your emotional response. Don't do that. Show the world what it looks like. So they say, what is it? What is it about you that's different? Or you show up and you're no longer matching the memory they have of you, like...

• 48:08Lewis Howes?

  Who is this person?

• 48:09Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, what happened to you? That's so important for people. Because that means you're out of phase, right? So the world needs... This is not a time to go to the Himalayas. We need you here. We need you here. We need you to be the example. You gotta... This is a time to stand up for the truth, right? And we gotta, we gotta show the world what it looks like. And every single person creates that emergent consciousness. Every bird that's in that pattern, every fish that's in that school that are moving as one mind and one heart. There is no leader. Everybody's leading. This is a time where everybody's gotta lead. Community is the future.

• 48:46Joe Dispenza?

  No healthcare plan, no religion, excuse me, no government really is going to take care of people the way they should be taken care of right now. And I don't mean that in a secular way. I'm sure there's religions that really take care of people. But what I'm saying is, we need to create a collective consciousness and collective networks of observers determine reality.

• 49:13Lewis Howes?

  Dr. Joe, I'm always grateful for your time. I appreciate and acknowledge you for the mission you're on. I didn't even know you were 60. I thought you were like 48 for some reason. But being, being how long your body has been on this earth, you don't need to keep showing up every month and doing these week-long events where you're on stage for 15 hours a day and doing these things. You've, you've got enough resources and abundance in your life. You don't need to keep doing this, but you do. And I really acknowledge you for showing up for people, for constantly reinvesting in research, to show, to give people more evidence so they have more belief, stepping into these things for themselves. And for giving of all of your heart and your mind and soul to humanity and to creating this consciousness, I really acknowledge you. So grateful for you. I appreciate you.

• 49:59Lewis Howes?

  I've asked you your three truths many times before. So if people want to hear your three truths, they can go watch or listen to the previous episodes. I recommend people check out the one on love we did a year ago. It's a mass, massive hit. People are loving it. And they're finding incredible relationships with themselves that they've never had and with others that they've always wanted. So thank you for your, your wisdom and advice on love and relationships. And we'll have to have you come back on more, but I appreciate you and I'm so grateful for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's show with all the important links. And also make sure to

• 50:42Lewis Howes?

  share this with a friend and subscribe over on Apple Podcasts as well. I really love hearing feedback from you guys. So share a review over on Apple and let me know what part of this episode resonated with you the most. And if no one's told you lately, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now it's time to go out there and do something great.