S1E28: The Story of Jes and Asher | Talk Tracks

In this episode of the Talk Tracks, we revisit Jes and Asher from episode 5 of the Telepathy Tapes season one, in which we only breached the surface of their amazing true story. Retired teacher Jes Kerzen recounts her decades-long friendship with her former student, Asher. Their connection began in a classroom of children with speech and language challenges, where Asher’s telepathic abilities quickly became clear. Over the years, their roles reversed, with Asher becoming Jes’ spiritual teacher. Together, they’ve explored telepathy, remote viewing, and realms beyond time and space. This is a story of trust, soul agreements, and the unseen threads that connect us. _______ Join The Telepathy Tapes Backstage Pass https://thetelepathytapes.supercast.com/ to get ad-free episodes, never-before-heard interviews, behind-the-scenes documentary footage, and access to our private Discord community. This is your invitation to come closer. To help shape what’s next. To be more than a listener… to be a co-creator of this paradigm shift. So if you’ve felt moved, if you’ve felt seen, if you’ve felt the call, subscribe today and join us: thetelepathytapes.com. https://thetelepathytapes.com/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Ky Dickens?

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• 1:44Ky Dickens?

  Hi, everyone. I'm Kai Dickens, and I'm thrilled to welcome you to the Talk Tracks. In this series, we dive deeper into the revelations, challenges, and unexpected truths from the Telepathy Tapes. The goal is to explore all the threads that weave together our understanding of reality, science, spirituality, and yes, even unexplained things like psi abilities. If you haven't yet listened to season one of the Telepathy Tapes, I encourage you to start there. It lays the foundation for everything we'll be exploring in this journey. We'll feature conversations with groundbreaking researchers, thinkers, non-speakers, and experiencers who illuminate the extraordinary connections that may defy explanation today but won't prolong.

• 2:27Ky Dickens?

  In this episode of The Talk Tracks, we've reunited with Jess Kurzen from season one, a retired teacher from Somerset, England, whose experience with telepathy in her students transformed her outlook on life. Featured in the episode, Teachers Break the Silence of Telepathy, Jess remembers her experiences of telepathy in a classroom of elementary age students and how she herself became a part of all of it. Today, Jess tells us the incredible true story of her decades-long friendship with her former student Asher, whose story we only just breached the surface of in episode five of The Telepathy Tapes. And here she is from season one.

• 3:01Speaker 01

  I started off as a teacher. That was my first and only job. I got asked to do a temporary contract in this school for children with speech difficulties and/or language difficulties.

• 3:15Ky Dickens?

  It was intimidating terrain for her, but she loved it, and it turned into a permanent post. A new six-year-old student named Asher joined the class, and immediately, Jess noticed that he was having an immense influence on the behavior of the rest of the class, although no words were being spoken.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  I'd be reading a story to the class, and they'd all be sort of giggling to themselves, and they'd never done that before. It suddenly dawned on me, these little kids are communicating with each other through telepathy. Asher was the ringleader of this, that I wanted in on this. I wanted to understand what was going on. I wanted to be part of it.

• 3:54Ky Dickens?

  Wow. Okay, so how did that unfold?

• 3:56Speaker 01

  I could feel that one little boy was behind me, and he was beaming at me really strongly, that he wanted my attention, and he wanted it right then and there. And I just said, without even turning around, Jimmy, just wait a minute, please. I'll come and help you in a sec. Just be patient. And Asher was sitting across the room, watching the whole thing. And he went, well done, Jimmy. She got it. She got it. And the whole class started clapping. The next step was a little boy called Max, who kind of took on the role of talking into my head. I could actually hear his little voice

• 4:40Speaker 01

  in my head when he wanted my attention.

• 4:42Ky Dickens?

  Today Jess tells us the incredible true story of her decades-long friendship with her former student Asher, whose story we only just breached the surface of in episode five of the telepathy tapes. Jess shares how that bond evolved, how Asher's gifts as a seer and spiritual teacher have expanded, and what lies beyond what we think is even possible. This story is one of deep trust, soul agreements, and the power of unseen connection. And here's Jess.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  My name is Jess Curzon, and I am a retired teacher. And when I was a teacher, many, many years ago now, I had a little boy in my class called Asher. And he was six years old and basically headhunted me. He basically told me that we had planned to work together during this lifetime, and he remembered us making a deal before he was born. So I kind of thought, wow, sounds interesting. So we just started working together, first of all, as pupil and teacher.

• 5:50Speaker 01

  And as he grew older and various things happened in his life, I got to know him a lot better. I also ended up teaching him for quite a few years. And during that time, he demonstrated to me that he had amazing psychic abilities, incredible knowledge of things that I knew nothing about. And so over the years, relationships more or less flipped over, so that I'm now the student and he is well, my spiritual teacher in a way. And I'm also his scribe because he chooses not to.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  He can talk now. He couldn't talk very well when I first knew him, although he can talk functionally now and does for everyday life. When he's trying to explain stuff from the realms, things that he picks up in the Akashic records or whatever you want to call it. He, he says words aren't enough, they're not sufficient. Our language, no language has the right words for it. And so he just sends it all as thoughts into my mind and I'm the one who has to try and find words for it. At the time I met him, I was teaching children with speech and language difficulties and

• 7:13Speaker 01

  because of that problem and its interface with autism, there were quite a few autistic children within the class. And yes, he was one of them.

• 7:24Ky Dickens?

  Asher's mother passed away when he was just nine years old. By that time, Jess and Asher's mother had developed a close relationship. And just before she died, she shared an important message with Jess.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  I was called into the hospice where she was. I'd got to know Nina very well by that time and she'd been terminally ill for about nine months, I think. And her husband phoned me and said, look, she's asking to speak to you. Can you go into the hospice after work tonight? And I did and met up with her there and she was still lucid. She was obviously close to the end, but she still understood exactly what was going on. And we had what turned out to be our final conversation together. And during that conversation, she said to me, look, his dad's going to struggle with being a single parent, with having two kids to bring up. He's

• 8:20Speaker 01

  also going to struggle with Asher's difficulties in terms of the speech and language difficulties and the autism and so forth. And she said, even when he's left your class, can you help him out, keep an eye on him, stay in touch with him? And by that time I'd become incredibly fond of Asher and we had actually built up quite a strong relationship. And I said, well, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I will be a lifetime friend to him. About four years after she died. By then Asher was a young teen. He was, I was still in touch with him, but he was like most thirteen year old lads, I suppose. He, he was quite an angry child.

• 9:06Speaker 01

  Obviously, his mother's death had affected him. Obviously, the autism, because by then he was in a mainstream school and trying to cope with a class full of neurotypical kids. And so that was really quite a wake up call for him because he'd always had me around at primary, elementary school. And suddenly he was like in this huge secondary school with children who didn't really understand him. And he was struggling to make friends, struggling to get on with other kids. And he'd finally found a mate. And this mate he hung out with all the time. He was always with this mate who was a great laugh. He told me he was great fun.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  But he was very secretive about what he and his friend were up to. And I thought, well, that's normal. I've got three kids of my own who are older and I'd been through all the teenage stuff. So it didn't bother me too much. But oddly, for several weeks, every time I did something that had to do with the spiritual side of life, like once I went for some spiritual healing. And another time I was just listening to a radio show that happened to be about seances. And on each of those, there were three occasions, I felt this most excruciating pain in my left knee.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  And it was agony. I mean, when I went for the healing, it was, it was quite laughable because, you know, I went in there just wanting a general top up of the evening. Ten minutes into the session, I was writhing about on the couch in absolute agony, wanting it to stop. Couldn't work out what it was, nor could the healer. And after the sessions finished, it was righteous rain. It was fine, but it felt like a, a vice was gripping it. It was absolutely unbearable pressure, huge amount of pain.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  And after the third time it happened, I thought something weird is going on here. And just this little nagging feeling came into my head. Each time it's been something to do with the spiritual, each time it's been oh, someone on the other side trying to get in touch with me and that really, you know, gave me the heebie jeebies. I was wasn't very keen on that idea. So I sort of thought, must be a wrong number there, mistaking me for a psychic medium or something. I don't know anyone who's passed over who'd want to contact me. And then this thought came to me. Nina. Now Nina's was always known to her family as Ne for short. And I thought, hang on, Nina.

• 11:53Speaker 01

  Is she trying to get my attention by gripping my knee? And I thought, and it's my left knee and Nina has left. And it was, it was just her sense of humour and I just felt this tiny little twin just matched us and say, oh, you're getting it. Well, I mean, I'd never done anything like that. I'd never tried to contact anyone in the beyond. It just wasn't something on my radar at all. But she, she was trying to contact me and the message she wanted to share with me was that Asha was in danger. And she had felt the need to sort of

• 12:36Speaker 01

  come back from the beyond to warn me of this because I wasn't picking it up and nor was anyone in his family. And I was sort of spent a long time trying to find out what the danger was. It turned out to be this friend of his had introduced him to a bunch of much older lads who were up to no good. They were doing some naughty things and. Of course, he was only thirteen. He was on the autistic spectrum. He didn't have the social skills and the wherewithal to know that what he was doing was wrong. So I had to very, very gently feel my way into this without

• 13:21Speaker 01

  alienating him. And eventually he admitted to me that he was out of his depth.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  He could do with a bit of help and we got it sorted. But that was come down to his mum. The time that I went into the hospice to see her, Asher had been avoiding going in. He just couldn't bear to see her that ill. And he'd been staying away. And she'd said to me, can you get him to come in before I pass? Because he's going to hold it against himself if he doesn't. And I'd spoken to him at school the next day and said, your mum's really near the end now. It's time to go and say goodbye to her, sweetheart. You know, you need to go in there. And so he got his dad to take him after school. And by that time, she'd sunk into a coma and she was completely unresponsive.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  And so he went in and he sat with her and he talked to her. But as far as he was concerned, she hadn't heard anything and she died not knowing. But while I was in contact with Nina these four years later, she told me everything that had taken place in that conversation. And I was actually able to write down that conversation for Asher. Tiny little details, like his dad knocking on the door and saying, everything all right, son? And stuff like that. And I wrote it all down,

• 14:47Speaker 01

  put it in an envelope and handed it to Asher and said, message from your mum, she got it after all.

• 14:58Ky Dickens?

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• 17:10Speaker 01

  We got into the habit of going on train journeys together. It started off as a treat for him when his mother was ill. You know, I used to give the parents a bit of respite and take him out at weekends sometimes. And he loved trains. So, yeah, we were on a train ride together and, gosh, how old was he then? Fifteen, maybe? Can't remember. And in his teens, anyway. And he'd been trying to explain some very esoteric ideas to me, and it was way beyond my comprehension level. And he said, "Look, I mean, we're sitting in a train and there's a table between us."

• 17:51Speaker 01

  And he got a plastic water bottle next to him on his side of the table. And he said to me, "How could you move that water bottle from where it is now, near me, across to your side of the table without touching it?" And I thought, "Well, I can't blow it because it's full of water, it's too heavy, and the table's bolted to the carriage, so I can't lift the table." I said, "It's not that sort of answer you want, is it?" So, you know, something much more esoteric and mystical. And he said, "Yeah." And so I said, "All right, well, you'd better tell me then." And he said, "Well, see it where you want it to be.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Just visualize, intend, focus on where you want it to be. Not where it is now, where you want it to be." "All right, fine." But, you know, in my experience, water bottles didn't just teleport across tables. So I sat and focused, and he was doing the same. We were both looking at the point at which the water bottle was to be. And literally less than five minutes later, the guard came into the carriage. And in our country, they come around once during the journey to check everybody's ticket. And he came up to our table and he checked my ticket and he checked Ash's ticket.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  The whole thing took seconds. And during that interaction, for absolutely no logical reason at all, this guard just picked up the water bottle from where it was on his side and put it in front of me and then walked on to the next table. And... I just sat there staring at that open mouth. What on earth happened there? He said, well, you know, it was intention and it was just focusing on where you wanted it to be. And I said, but, you know, that man was nothing to do with it. How did it happen? And he said, oh, he would just happen to be the cause of it.

• 20:03Speaker 01

  He said, it could have been something else. It could have been some other passenger walking past and knocking it with his elbow. It could have been the train sort of suddenly rolling and it moved that way. But he said, it's just life joining up the dots. You want this, you've got that. Life joins up the dots to get what you want. Ever since he told me that we'd made this plan to work together, I'd always realised, you know, there was definitely something unusual about this kid. And I also knew that he was messing up most of my lessons in order to draw my attention.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  There was one interesting day when he was still quite little and he said to me one day that he had a secret. And the only person who knew this secret was his best friend, who was the little boy who was really good at talking into my line so I could hear him. And he'd shared this information with Max, but he and Max didn't talk to each other because neither of them had very good speech. They just used telepathy the whole time. And so he'd found it easy to share his piece of information with Max's secret, but he realised with me at that point, he was going to have to use words.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  And words weren't his strong points. So he just sort of sat there and he was obviously very het up. He really wanted to tell me, but he was really struggling to do it. And eventually he grabbed a little scrap of paper and I have actually still got the scrap of paper. He sort of hid it like little kids do, hid it behind his hand and wrote secretly on it. And then he folded it into masses and masses of pieces, said it was a tiny little thick piece of paper and thrust it into my hand and ran out of the room. That left me to open it up. So I opened up all this piece of paper and he'd written,

• 22:12Speaker 01

  "I am different from everybody." And I didn't really know what it meant then. And I don't think he knew what it meant then. All he knew was that he had knowledge and abilities and awarenesses that other people just didn't seem to have. And he told me years later that it had come as quite a shock to him that his first task was to learn to speak, because he realized that was important. And his mother told him he'd need to learn to speak to get by in life. And then the second thing that really, really mattered to him was finding out what other people found when they went off to these other realms and other worlds

• 22:57Speaker 01

  and dimensions. And it came as an absolute shock to him that most people were totally unaware of all of that. I suppose that's why he decided he'd got to train me and teach me the art of it so that he could share it with other people.

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• 27:07Speaker 01

  I suppose he's taught me that we are the creators of our own lives, that our experience while we're living on the earth is a temporary part of our greater self, if you like, soul, if you want to use a sort of crazy religious word. And that we just, we come here for a few decades, maybe, you know, more or less. And during that incarnation, we're still part of a much greater spirit self.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  And this is just one little bit of it and that we have loads of incarnations. And he said, in a sort of spiritual sense, they're all happening at once. One might be in the 15th century and one might have been in ancient Rome and one might be, you know, because there's millions of years in the future. But he said, in terms of spirit, they're all happening at once, but just on the human timeline, they're happening at different times. And he showed it to me, the image he used, because he's very good at putting images into my head. He calls them astral envelopes.

• 28:29Speaker 01

  And it's like you've sent an envelope full of pictures and sounds and words and all sorts of things and stacked it all together. And the one he sent me for different incarnations and how they all fit together was the carnation flower. And he said, if you imagine your greater self as a carnation flower, each petal on it is

• 29:00Speaker 01

  One life. And with carnation petals, they all bend back and forwards and double over and almost turn in on themselves. And so that's what a human life is like. We have an experience and then we go off somewhere and then we have another experience that's uncannily like that one we had five years ago and that we carry on and they all interact with each other, the different experiences, and that's one life. And he said, each of the petals, each of the different lives fit together so that you can hardly see where one stops and one starts in terms of spirit. So when you've got your spirit self, you've just got this mass of

• 29:44Speaker 01

  different petals all interacting. And what you do in one lifetime is going to affect something you do in another lifetime, whether that's in earthly terms, in the past or the present or the future. And they're all going to interact with each other and you're still the same, the same person in a great sense, although each one's got a separate personality. And he said, you can even think in terms of a whole bunch of carnations where if you put them all together, they're all mixed in. And that's your soul family, your spirit family, you know, it's other people like Asher and I have been together in a lot of lives and lots of people in your present life, he says, you know, are also people

• 30:29Speaker 01

  that you've been in many other lives. And I thought it was a lovely way of explaining. So it's incarnations. When he was 16, he had a formal assessment to find out, you know, what exactly his problems were. And the doctor he spoke to told him that he had, he called it Asperger's Syndrome, because that was the diagnosis for sort of high functioning autism at that time. And explained the whole thing to him, asked him loads of questions. I mean, I wasn't there, but this is what Ash told me afterwards. And one of the things the doctor asked him

• 31:11Speaker 01

  was, what, have you had any other symptoms, anything else that makes you different from normal people? And Asher, being a very honest kid, said, well, I get these visions sometimes. I sort of see things that are going to happen in the future, or I I don't hear voices, but I just know things in my head, the stuff that I know and I don't know how I know it, but you know, it's sort of information just comes through to me and all the rest of it. And this doctor just turned around and smiled, nodded his head sagely and said, yeah, yeah, they're they're called delusions, son, you know, that's that's part of of your diagnosis. You see, that's one of the issues that people with autism get.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  They get these delusions and, you know, you're just gonna have to ignore them and pretend they're not there because they're not real, you know, don't don't believe any of this stuff. It's all rubbish. But it's just, you know, your brain isn't working right. It's not like everybody else's brain. And so all these odd things come into your head. So next time it happens, just remind yourself that it's not true. And he believed the doctor. His dad believed the doctor, his teachers believed the doctor, and I was this little lone voice. And Asha said, well, he's got lots more qualifications than you have, you know, you're only a primary school teacher and he's, you know, he's got all these medical qualifications. So he must know what he's talking about. So you've got to stop believing

• 32:40Speaker 01

  all this stuff I'm telling you. And if you believe it, then you're deluded as well. And at that point, he just shut the door on all of that for a long time. And so every so often, I tried to persuade him and say, look, you know, you didn't make that stuff up. It was really coming to you. You've got this incredible gift. You've got this ability. And the doctors just don't understand it yet, you know, maybe one day they will. But at the moment, they don't get what is going on with you. And at that time, I didn't know any other people who were having that sort of experience. So as far as I was concerned, this was this one off amazing kid. So it took him a long time to come around. And

• 33:25Speaker 01

  sometimes he would share things. He he actually started, I suppose you'd call it astral flying at about that time. And he was absolutely torn down the middle because part of him desperately wanted to share this information with me because it was so mind blowing. And the other part of it was thinking, yeah, but it's not real, you know, I've got to start behaving like a normal person because I want to be accepted by everyone. We had a very dodgy few years, quite a few years. And then I think, to be honest, the real breakthrough came when we started doing remote viewing. I just saw a YouTube video about it and thought,

• 34:08Speaker 01

  Asher would really be interested in this stuff. And by that time, our lives have moved on. He was a young adult. He was living in London. I was living in Somerset, which is the other side of the country. So we were about one hundred and fifty miles apart. We didn't see each other much, but we talked a lot, you know, by email and stuff. So I said, look, I've, you know, been watching this thing called remote viewing. Have you ever come across it? I said, no. I said, well, you know, I think we need to give it a try because it's actually something I'm sure you'd be good at. So we started off doing just simple things like

• 34:48Speaker 01

  one of us would hold a crystal and the other one would be trying to write down any impressions they got of the crystal, you know, what color it was, what shape it was, whether it was opaque or clear or whatever. And then we'd take photos of our respective crystals and compare. And we're getting some quite good results. So I said, all right, well, let's move it on a notch. Let's try, I'll go somewhere to, you know, a location. I won't tell you where I'm going. I'll go and stand there for fifteen minutes. You write down, draw any ideas you get and I'll take photos and then, you know, we can swap over after the fifteen minutes.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  And of course, he was absolutely incredible at it and he was picking up so many images, so many things. And he just loved that because he got proof. He could see my photo, he could see his drawing and he knew. And finally, it was That doctor didn't know what he was talking about, did he? Oh, he did not. Have you got it? And then it got even more fun because he started doing remote viewing into the future. I started off with, I had an appointment the following weekend and I said to him, well, I know where I'm going to be next Saturday. So see if you can work out where I'm going to be next Saturday.

• 36:18Speaker 01

  He wrote all this stuff down and then, of course, the following Saturday I was in this location, I was able to take pictures of the clock that was on the wall, the telephone box that was outside, all the things that he'd written down a week early. We did double blind tests or as near to double blind tests as we could, like I'd say, right, I don't know where I'm going to be in a week's time and I'm going to get a friend, another friend to drive me somewhere. She will decide where we're going and you're still going to decide where I'm going to be and it worked. Wow. I think anybody who is high functioning autistic, who's autistic but able to

• 37:02Speaker 01

  cope in society, able to, you know, in Asher's case, he's holding down a job, he's in his mid thirties now, living a semi independent life, but it involves so much masking. He lives two sort of more or less separate lives that telepathic stuff he does with me is something that goes on in in secret and he really is quite split between the two. He doesn't want to talk about things we're doing, but he he's got to carry on masking to get through his everyday life because it's the way it is for these people until the world wakes up to it a bit.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  And the telepathy tells, because with those young people, they'll do a telepathy. Session with their parent or whoever their telepathic partner is. And because they can spell, they can actually write things out and you've got your proof. With Asha, I just have that certainty and it's, he intends it that way. He's got a very strange relationship with words. This is Asha speaking through telepathy. He says that words are frozen thoughts. They become solid and intractable, like hurling lumps of ice at someone.

• 38:28Speaker 01

  They're cold and heavy and they can hurt. Sending my thoughts to you is like sending a cloud of water vapour. They don't take form until they reach your mind. There you condense them into a liquid state and they become a joint process between us. I say liquid because you have some leeway as to how you receive them. You pick up a gestalt and I can send feelings, sensations, memories and a context along with the meaning. And it flows. When he was a teenager, he used to visit a part of the realms. He is very insistent that it's not a place because it's beyond time and it's beyond space.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  So he said, you know, it's not like going on a train ride to somewhere else. It's beginningness and endless, but it's still growing. It's, it's the whole of source, the whole of consciousness. And he said, you can think of it as there being different levels and different parts of it. And he has shown me again, strung envelopes, his ideas of these places. And there was one occasion where I was on this kind of spiral staircase. It felt like that was like an escalator, it was moving upwards and.

• 39:54Speaker 01

  I saw this really bright light. I wasn't moving out of body. It was literally him sending me a second-hand image of, there was just this feeling of friendship. I couldn't make out any individuals there. I wasn't seeing spirits or angels or gods or anything, but I was just aware of this friendship and caring and togetherness and that I was just part of it somehow, just for those few seconds. Asha and I were having a discussion once about, I was talking about materialist people,

• 40:33Speaker 01

  you know, people who don't see anything other than just physical life and saying, yeah, okay, I get that it seems to work that way most of the time, but how can they believe the whole thing came about through a happy accident? And this is something Asha said, and this must have been about three or four years ago. And I just want to tie it into something that happened in the Telepathy Tapes podcast, because it's got a real link. This is actually a quote from, am I being words, from our first book. He's talking about that materialist, this mythical materialist person. He has no choice than to think that.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  He and his kind cannot see any viable alternative. They are rational. That's the antithesis of faith and superstition. If he opens the door even a crack to such things, he fears he'll end up having to accept God. In one of the early episodes of the Telepathy Tapes podcast, there was, I think it was one of the cameramen, who Kai found sitting with his head in his hands, like, do I have to believe in God now? I thought, Asha wrote that down. That was just so strange. And this was several years before that happened.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  He's now moving into a lot of other stuff. I think probably truth is one of the things that he would really like us to discuss. I came across this wonderful quote by Schopenhauer the other day. And he'd said, whenever he lived, that all truth passes through three stages. First, it's ridiculed. Second, it's violently opposed. And third, it's accepted as being self-evident. I think his overall aim is the shift has started. We need to be moving into it.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  We need to be building a society that's more inclusive, that's allowing for the talents and abilities and general amazingness of the autistic population to be not just believed, but actually used and become part of our society. Because these people have got something that will be really helpful to us. Asher has avoided using the word god or gods. He usually uses light or source.

• 43:22Speaker 01

  But he says that there's more than just us in the cosmos. We are actually part of that. We are part of source. We are a fractal bit of that. And we've got all that power within ourselves. He said, we've got to get used to using our own skills, our own ability to create. You know, whether it's moving a water bottle across a train carriage or creating your entire life, it's all the same thing, that we have the power within us. And we're going to be waking up to that as we go further into the shift.

• 44:06Ky Dickens?

  That's it for this episode of The Talk Tracks, but new episodes will now be released every other Sunday, so stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads, even the veiled ones that knit together our reality. Please remember to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind. Thank you to my amazing collaborators. Original music was created by Elizabeth P. W., original logo and cover art by Ben Kendor Design, the audio mix and finishing by Sarah Ma, our amazing podcast coordinator Jill Pachesnik, the telepathy tapes coordinator and my right hand, Catherine Ellis. And I'm Kai Dickens, your writer, creator, and host. Thank you again for joining us.