Michigan Church Shooting, Trump's Portland Takeover & Eric Adams Drops Out | PBD Podcast | Ep. 657

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick dive into the Michigan church shooting, Trump’s plan to take over Portland, and Eric Adams dropping out of the NYC mayoral race. ------ Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES COMMUNITY: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP ✝️ FAITH OVER FEAR COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4nAU1Qe?r=qr 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:26Speaker 01

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• 0:56Speaker 02

  Did you ever think you would make it? I still unsupport you. It takes sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

• 1:08Speaker 03

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• 1:12Speaker 02

  You are a one of one. I send you right there. I think I've ever said this before.

• 1:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Huh? Okay, gang, hope you had a good weekend. We've had to create a nine-step process for Adam to say, "Go to the bathroom." We have to like escort him out, bring him back. You say, "Sit down, grab a seat, put the mic on." And to all the people that are supporting the cause for us to get a listicle set up for Adam, we are thankful for you. You've changed our lives in a major way. But we have a massive announcement to make today. Yeah, we have a spotter. About Manek, so stay tuned. It's a big announcement that took almost a year to get done, but we finally got it settled and it's exciting. This past weekend, I was at Mar-a-Lago doing a documentary with Adam. That was awesome, Pat. You know what was awesome about it is the fact that Benny Johnson just flat out came out and said the fact that he paid for 2 million subscribers. Can't believe that. He flat out said he paid it with fart coin. We'll talk about it. Fart coin? He promoted Manek.

• 2:05Patrick Bet-David?

  It was a great concept of what he was doing. It was fantastic when you see things like that that happen. That people are just honest about it. So let me go through a couple of different stories that we have here. So Trump, out of everything that's going on, gotta love this guy. He wants to declassify the Emilia Earhart records and Vinnie's ecstatic. So he's got so many things I want to talk about. I haven't slept. President Trump posts cartoon images depicting him firing Fed chief Jerome Powell. And then you have Trump to meet with top congressional leaders Monday on shutdown. As well as the admin reports 2 million illegal aliens out of the US in the first eight months. But those 2 million illegal aliens, have you heard about it? No. What? It just made sense. What? Benny got those 2 million subscribers.

• 2:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So the Trump's administration reports 2 million illegal aliens left, but they're not watching Benny. That's what it is. That's awesome, buddy, with fart coin you paid for. What a fantastic guy, you know, Benny is. Lithium Americans, lithium America's share surged 90% as Trump request stake. Trump says he asked Somalia president, see this is the part that people don't give him enough credit. Trump is so noble, people forget. You tell me you've met more of a noble man. Look what he does here. Honestly, I want you to read this. This is called nobility at the highest level. Yeah. So you got all of these different problems you're dealing with. Yeah. Think about it. You tell me you know a president as noble as President Trump that said,

• 3:35Patrick Bet-David?

  he asked the Somalian president if he would like to take Ilhan Omar back.

• 3:42Patrick Bet-David?

  With all the stuff he's busy with, he finds time. You are that busy with everything you have going on and you still are noble enough to say, can we send Ilhan Omar? I don't care what anybody says about him. That may be one of the most noble things he's done in 2025. Multitasker. For him to be willing to. Leader of Somalia have to say. About her returning back. They said no, they said no, we don't want her back. How did they not want her back? She is yours now. Alright, so. It's really crowded, we're kind of busy that day. Voters in major US city, new capitalism only slightly more favorably than socialism. Fox News poll finds, and then Democratic Party hits historic low favorability in new national poll, uh, which is obviously devastating for a lot of people.

• 4:24Patrick Bet-David?

  One person dead and nine injured in shooting, uh, and fire at Michigan church. Out of nowhere, you hear a story like that, devastating. It was, I, I think it was a Mormon church, if I'm not mistaken. We're gonna get into the fact. Howard Rubin, ex-New York City financier with ties to George Soros, arrested for allegedly sex trafficking woman to sex. Am I reading you correctly, dungeon? Oh, yeah. Penthouse. Yeah. So, New York Post, wow, I mean, that's some stuff right there. Oh, yeah. Netanyahu faces walkout at UN after Abbas receives applause. Russia is helping China prepare for Taiwan invasion. Mar, Bill Maher, media ignore, uh, persecution of Christians in Nigeria because Jews

• 5:08Patrick Bet-David?

  aren't involved. Seven thousand Christians have been killed in Nigeria this year. Group says, unbelievable. Bad. Yeah, the video, I saw a video, uh, of a guy saying, all my family members here at this house were killed. I have relatives in that house, where he says, this is immediate family, these are not friends, this is blood. Those guys were killed. Living in that kind of a setting, just because you're a Christian, going through it. Uh, US, uh, birth rate plummets, um, and, uh, to all time low as, uh, housing prices continue to rise. And this Coldplay thing, we didn't get into it last week, I think it's a very, very important story for us to get into. Tom was like, can we just cover it? Husband of HR exec in Coldplay, Kiss Cam, debacle was actually at the same concert with a date.

• 5:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So at least, you know, at least it's not as bad as people think it is, Vinny. Yeah. She's there with the CEO and he's there with somebody. Nice. And it was mutually.

• 5:58Patrick Bet-David?

  When her husband wasn't home alone and lonely. That's right. Michigan church on fire after shooting leaves multiple people hurt. Uh, uh, arrest made after boater opened fires on Southport waterfront bar.

• 6:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Injuring five Eric Adams steps down by the way and ends reelection bid for New York City Mayor and Tom as because he's so connected he got a text from folks in a polling connected community telling him even with Eric Adams dropping out what could happen this is why I love the fact that Tom's so connected in the community man just there's so many benefits to it Trump shares AI generated video promoting med bed conspiracy theory and then what to make of Sinclair's Jimmy Kimmel live decision amid the show 70% rating drop and last but not least Dearborn's chief of police Hamdullah video

• 6:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Hamdullah

• 6:51Patrick Bet-David?

  steers outrage as mosque prayer calls in Michigan face scrutiny tolerance has been weaponized which will cover that I know you got some stuff that you want to say about that uh let me give you uh one major announcement gang that what just happened right now it's very big for us some of you guys I mean this has been a record breaking month in a history of the company with Manek massive I've never gotten this many minutes Rob is talking about the amount of minutes is getting but there's one massive announcement that we've been working on the first strategic partner that became the biggest shareholder outside of a uh us in Manect and it's it's a it's a great story I don't want you to watch the whole five minute clip or post it on social afterwards I just want you to watch the first

• 7:34Patrick Bet-David?

  minute on how exciting this is there's so many big things happening behind closed doors with Manect we're hiring machine learning engineers left and right and uh we're hiring right now if you're looking at the same I want to be part of Manect I want to be part of ET we're aggressively hiring but this is our latest strategic partner with Manect that just happened last Friday we shot the video the announcement internally was finalized two weeks ago go ahead Rob I have a big announcement to make to you today let me tell you what it is for Manect Manect today September the biggest month the company's ever had in the history but the announcement is very simple we've been working for for one year I have a very special guy sitting next to me today who is officially the biggest strategic partner and investor in Manect and that's none other than Tony Robbins

• 8:20Patrick Bet-David?

  excited about this partnership.

• 8:21Speaker 03

  Thanks for going by.

• 8:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, of course.

• 8:23Speaker 03

  I'm excited too. I mean, if you're watching, I think one of the most important principles of success in business has certainly shaped my life is proximity is power. The first multi-billionaire I met, he's saying, tell me your goals, tell me your dreams. And I told him all about them. And he says, Tony, if you want to do that, you got to know a lot of these certain people. He goes, how much time do you spend with those people? I said, almost never. He goes, brother, what made me a billionaire is proximity is power. If you get in the environment with people that are the best in the world, you're one or two people away from the deal that you want to make. But if you're trying to do something, you don't know anybody, you can forget it. And what I love about this is you're democratizing it. You're making so we get access to people. If you want LinkedIn, it's really nice, but most people are not going to respond. You know, maybe 10% of the people respond if they're a player. They don't have time and energy. But in my case, I'm doing this and I'm just donating the money that's received.

• 9:08Speaker 03

  I just want to empower people and help people and go on this journey with you because I know what's coming. I don't, I don't think you're announcing everything.

• 9:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not yet. They don't know everything that's coming. You can pause it right there. We'll post the video all over social afterwards. Guys, this, this is the, the last week, the amount of downloads with the app right now, it's unbelievable. Messages, calls, all of it. And everybody online said, oh my God, you know, do these people charge this much? And do those people, it's Pat $48,000 an hour. Actually, not $48,000 an hour. For a keynote, it's 350 to 500,000 dollars per hour that people pay gladly that we do. However, on Manect, if you want access, it's that much. FYI, 25 years ago, if you wanted to book President Trump to speak for one hour, you know how much it was 25 years ago? $1 million. And guess what? He was worth it.

• 9:58Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have access to people like this now, if you're watching this right now, you're saying, man, I want to be able to talk to, can I get a message back from Ray Lewis for 75 bucks? Yes. Can I message Terrence Howard, the actor? Yes. Can, can I message some basketball players and talk to them? Yes. Can I message some business people and find out how to raise money? Yes. Can, can I, can I found, can I talk to some guys like Tony Robbins? Yes, that access is available. You can go out there and try to cold email somebody, less than 1% chance they respond. Instagram X tweet, less than 5% chance. LinkedIn's around 10%. Manect is 94% response rate. If you haven't yet used the app, you can download the app and start Manecting today. And we have so many more big announcements that's coming in. I think LinkedIn.

• 10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Missed opportunity. There's a massive business community that's looking for a place to network with each other. That's LinkedIn is becoming that for now. I'm excited about it. There's a lot of good things that are going on behind closed doors. But we just wanted to announce to all of you guys. Tony Robbins is officially the strategic partner with Minact. More announcements coming soon. I'm excited about it. Anyways, all right, let's go into the next news. And by the way, if you want to Minact Tom, Vinnie, or Adam, you can Minact them now as well. Vinnie's been very busy lately, Minacting calls, a lot of different things that's going on. But you can Minact them directly. All right, let's get into the story. Rob. The story I wanted to get into is Portland first. Okay, so if you want to pull up a clip, Trump says he is ordering troops

• 11:28Patrick Bet-David?

  to Portland, escalating domestic use of military. This is a Wall Street Journal story. By the way, things in Portland are absolutely mind boggling. The, the, the local citizens are begging, saying, can you please come? These are some people that didn't vote for Trump. These are some people that don't like Trump. They, they may have not voted him. They wanted Kamala, but they're like, listen, enough is enough. This is getting out of control. Rob, do you want to play this clip just to kind of give a glimpse to people what's going on over there?

• 11:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Night after night, this is the scene.

• 12:01Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Portland.

• 12:01Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 12:02Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not a third world country. This is not Afghanistan.

• 12:06Tom Ellsworth?

  They routinely call police about the noise and crime.

• 12:10Speaker 06

  Calling about the broadcast. They cornered two women out here. They need help. Please send the cops.

• 12:16Tom Ellsworth?

  But the cops did not come. Residents on their own.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  Turn that [bleep] down. It's midnight. We, the people, need sleep.

• 12:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You voted for Kamala.

• 12:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. Brought what looked like a guillotine.

• 12:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You voted for this.

• 12:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Some confrontations end with residents getting assaulted. First a bullhorn, then a fist. No arrest was made despite the injuries. On this night in late June, federal police used tear gas and flashbangs. Again, no Portland police in sight. It came out later in court that one officer told another if it were Not ICE, we could assist directly. Julie Parrish sued the city to force police to enforce local laws.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  This is a full-on abdication of police duty in a four-block radius that impacts some of the most vulnerable Oregonians that we have. Now, they've said, "Meh, we're just gonna let violent rioters do this for 80 straight nights, and we don't care."

• 13:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Portland police responded, "We take these concerns seriously. At the same time, we are committed to protecting individuals' rights to express themselves peacefully."

• 13:15Speaker 02

  The Portland approach is pathetic. It's childish, and if you enable people to behave the way the protesters have and wreck the neighborhood for everyone else, they will come back and wreck it the next night.

• 13:26Tom Ellsworth?

  The protest chaos, which began with riots aimed at social justice in 2020, has severely damaged Portland's reputation. It's now ranked by the non-

• 13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you can pause that right there. By the way, weren't you guys the same people that were saying, "Defund the police"? Yeah. Weren't you guys the same people that wanted that CHAS city and "Trump sucks", and, you know, "We want 'em out, no kinks, kings, you know, we want, we want everything to be free"? And now you're complaining? These are your policies. You voted for these policies. You chose these policies. These are the leaders you chose that are okay with this, that are managing these policies the way that they are. President Trump said that he was directing the Pentagon to send troops to Portland to protect federal facilities, escalating his push to deploy the military in the US cities. Trump said in a post on Truth Social on Saturday that he was ordering Defense Secretary Pete Hackett to use the military to protect immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which

• 14:17Patrick Bet-David?

  he said were under siege from attack by Antifa, a loose network of anti-fascist protestors that Trump recently called "a terror group. I'm also authorizing full force if necessary." And I think Trump said something about it in a press conference, Rob, if you want to play that clip. When you go out to Portland and you see what's happening in Portland, this is like nobody's ever seen anything like it. Every night, and this has gone on for years, they just burn the place down, and, you know, the shop owners, most of them have left. But the few shops that are open, they just use plywood and just like three-quarter-inch plywood. They don't put sulfur, because they know it's gonna be burned down. These are professional agitators. These are bad people, and they're paid a lot of money by rich people, some of whom we know.

• 15:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sure I know some. If I knew, I wouldn't associate because I'll be in trouble because Pam will say, "Why are you associating with this person?" But I will tell you that these are bad, bad people, and they're paying a lot of money, millions of dollars. But take a look at Portland sometime. These are, wow, these are crazy people, and they're trying to burn down buildings, including federal buildings. And on my list of things that I want to do before we finish up with the cities, because I think we're going to whip the cities back into shape, and we have to, we cannot let our cities, and that's a small example, but it's the most violent example. It's every night, and they've done it for years. You'd think maybe at some point they made their

• 15:46Patrick Bet-David?

  point, and what are they doing? But we're going to get out there, and we're going to do a pretty big number of those. Yes, Tom.

• 15:53Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's really interesting in Portland, to bring some numbers behind this. The president's right. We need the federal government to intervene. And you want to know why?

• 16:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Why?

• 16:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Sixty-nine officers resigned coming out of COVID, 2020 to 2021, stating that a combination of the COVID policies and just allowing them to create that zone downtown. One year later, that number was announced at the end of '21, so '20 to '21, that year, it was 229 had resigned. In 2023, the city declined to state after being asked by multiple media outlets, including Fox, how many people have resigned on the police force or took early retirement in 2023? They refused to state. Then the Manhattan Institute published that privately

• 16:44Tom Ellsworth?

  that the government in Portland had said they have a major staffing crisis with the police. They simply don't have enough, and they can't get anyone to take the jobs. And ladies and gentlemen, the mayor, Mayor Rainbow, comes to the microphone saying, "We don't need the federal government. We don't need the help." They are in the middle of a staffing crisis, where if she had to put her hand in the air at a congressional hearing, she would have to admit that they've lost over 300 officers that haven't been replaced, and they can't get people to take the jobs.

• 17:17Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a she? That's her? Well, this is the governor of Oregon, yes, Tina Kotek. That's a girl? Yes. Can you play it?

• 17:25Patrick Bet-David?

  There's no way.

• 17:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she's a lesbian. I'm sorry, Governor Rainbow. Oh, Governor. We are in the central city of Portland, Oregon, and it is a beautiful day. Uh, and we are very happy to be here speaking with you today. In my conversations directly with President Trump and Secretary.

• 17:43Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like Keith Olbermann. I thought that was Keith Olbermann. I have been abundantly clear with them that Portland. The glasses. And the state of Oregon. Always the black frame glasses. Believe in the rule of law and we can manage our own. No, really? You can't. With what? There is no insurrection. Oh, really?

• 18:02Tom Ellsworth?

  There is no threat to national security and there is no need for military troops in our major city.

• 18:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You're getting positive right there. I mean, you, you say something like that and choose the best backdrop with a boat coming by thinking like that's exactly what Portland's like. I've been in Portland many, many times. There's some many good breweries up there and, and the people are actually good people. But at the same time, it's a little weird. It's not, and it's, it's not. Have you been to Portland?

• 18:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's not.

• 18:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Portland's not.

• 18:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I did a comedy show there and there was nothing funny about the area.

• 18:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I've been there several times. It backs up to a Vancouver, Washington, also known as Small Vancouver. And Pat's right, under the bridges, it used to be called the Rose Garden was downtown, you know, the, the trail, the Jailblazers and all that went with that. And there's a lot of, um, it was rebuild that was going on and there are small brewers, the, um, Oregon breweries up there, Oregon Honey Beer that, that was award winning. So, and this goes back 15 years ago and now what? I looked, I looked up some of the stuff and it's like backed off or they've moved.

• 18:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And, and you know what I just did as well? I just went up here to see what's going on. Remember how California was the first time since 1851 that they lost people? In 2023, Oregon lost, they had 131,403 people that left versus 125 came in. So their net migration in 23 was minus 6,000 people left. And then in Portland alone, that was Oregon, but in Portland alone, 4,000 residents left in 12 months, July to July, 22 to 23. Uh, net coming to migrants voted by 11,000, that was on net loss. Yeah, this is, people are not wanting to live in a place like this and you say. Have it under control. The governor has the audacity to say they have it under control. What do you think Trump's gonna say? What do you think Trump says on the phone call?

• 19:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I hope he goes to the receipts and saying if it's under control, why was your own mayor talking to the Manhattan Institute at the end of 2023, less than two years ago, saying that you have a staffing crisis with your cops? Why say that? I want the president to go grab that stuff and put the receipts out.

• 19:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 19:57Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's not him versus them.

• 19:59Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a good point.

• 19:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I want the numbers out there.

• 20:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep. Adam, thoughts?

• 20:02Tom Ellsworth?

  So the only place in the country I've never been is the Pacific Northwest. Portland, Seattle, the furthest Northwest I've ever been is San Francisco. And there's nothing compelling me at this point to want to go there. I still see people from California and I'm like, ah, you know, and they moved to Miami. And I'm like, well, man, you made it out, buddy. Congratulations. We've seen this happen in New York. But they still say, well, you know, I'm gonna miss California, I'm gonna miss New York. People I run into from the Pacific Northwest, every time I talk to them, they're like, dude, there's nothing going on here at this point. It's all progressive woke ideology. And you know what sort of codified this? Remember we had the American gangster come on the show. His name is Chael Sonnen. Do you remember that?

• 20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 20:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Shout out to Chael, American badass UFC fighter. And we were talking about what's going on in his home state of Oregon. And he's like, look, man, the governor's a nice lady, Governor Tina Kotek, but this whole area needs a complete rude awakening right now. And it's gonna take somebody like this, bad, bold badass to get up there and clean this mess up. There needs to be many Trumps all over the country. And I'm not saying they need to be MAGA extremists. That's not gonna work in a place like Portland or Seattle or San Francisco. But this progressive ideology goes lefter and lefter and lefter. And someone needs to bring it back to the middle. This might be the guy to do it.

• 21:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. And, and, and you know, you know, one part where you think about people who finally realized they have to change some policies? Folks from Portland, I know one thing for a fact, most of you are not watching this podcast.

• 21:36Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 21:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And those of you that are watching this podcast, you probably love your city, you don't want to leave and you want to see a change. Okay? But the reality of it is, you either have to go around converting people's policies and asking them questions. Because if you don't, if it gets voted like this over and over again, you voted for this. This is what you wanted. If you don't want it, change the way you vote. Or else this will be the case for many, many years to come. And I don't think Trump's gonna hesitate. I think Trump's gonna send people there. And you're gonna see when he sends people that within two weeks, it's gonna clean up. But say they stayed there for two weeks. Yeah. And then they leave two weeks, it's still gonna go back to the same thing. So the Antifa, unless if they're going around arresting Antifa members or saying anti fascist.

• 22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What's more fascist than what you're doing right there in the streets? You think that's the right thing to do? You guys watched the latest Joker movie, not the musical, the one previous that I would Joaquin Phoenix one too many times. You know, those guys probably watched reruns of that Joker movie, the first Joker with Joaquin Phoenix. The one that I walked out of after forty-three minutes, knowing the fact that they're dividing America, you know, putting the hate into people who are business owners. They're bad people. They're bad. That one right there. Yeah. Anyways, let's go to the next story here, Rob. Michigan. One person dead, nine injured in a shooting. Uh, and fire at Michigan church, police say. Rob, if you want to pull up the story. Uh, there's multiple stories that have of this one here. I'm gonna go to the CNN one first, and I'm gonna go to the other one.

• 23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you imagine? All you wanna do is go to church and all of a sudden you're there and at least four people were killed. This is the latest update I'm reading. And eight others were wounded in a shooting at Church of Latter Day Saints. In Grand Blank Township, Michigan, police said. Authorities say gunmen rammed a vehicle through the front of the church during a large service. Began shooting and intentionally set a fire that grew into a large blaze. Officers exchanged fire with gunmen and killed them, according to police. Investigators haven't identified the man as Thomas Jacob Sanford. A forty-year-old from the nearby city of Burton. The FBI is now leading the investigation into a deadly shooting and

• 23:44Patrick Bet-David?

  suspected arson at a Michigan church. Bureau is investigating the incident as an act of targeted violence. According to Ruben Coleman, Rob, if you want to play the clip.

• 23:55Tom Ellsworth?

  This is from inside the church as the shooting took place yesterday.

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• 25:00Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not gonna see anybody getting shot.

• 25:01Tom Ellsworth?

  No. Are you sure, Rob? This is what was going on in the church? This is the older one. This is the older, Rob?

• 25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  This is an older video, Rob.

• 25:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that's last week. Which is still bad. I mean, you know what I mean?

• 25:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think that's the same video.

• 25:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Then here's the, this is the police chief yesterday talking about the shooting, and then I also am talking about the shooter, which would you prefer?

• 25:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Go shooting first.

• 25:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay. That call came out here today at 10:20. Said was happening at 10:25 a.m. at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is located at 4285 McCandless Road. During this incident, what we know right now is that a 40-year-old suspect from Burton, he's a male, he drove his vehicle through the front doors of the church. He then exited his vehicle firing several rounds at individuals within the church. 10 gunshot victims have been transported to local hospitals at this time, including

• 26:00Tom Ellsworth?

  one who has been deceased. Officers who were trained immediately responded to the area. One was a DNR officer, and then one was a Grand Blanc Township officer. Where they met the suspect, and they engaged in gunfire with that particular individual, neutralizing that suspect, and that suspect is no longer with us. As I said, it is a 40-year-old male from Burton.

• 26:29Tom Ellsworth?

  During all this incident as well, there was a fire that occurred and we believe that that was deliberately set by the suspect. We do believe that we will find additional victims once we have that scene secure.

• 26:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so a few things I'm seeing here about the guy. Forty years old, former Marine from 04208, served in Iraq in his tenure. He lived there in Burton, Michigan, which is near Grand Blanc. Drove the pickup truck, you're going through the whole thing that he just explained there. Casualties, we already talked about that. Active targeted violence. The attack occurred one day after the death of LDS church president Russell M. Nelson, I think he died at 101 years old. If I'm not mistaken, it was a 17th president, I think. Could be the 14th or the 17th president, Rob, if you can verify that, which of the two he was. So, Vinny, what are your thoughts on this story?

• 27:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I mean, if you're out there and you're listening to this and you're paying attention even a little bit, it's obvious what's happening, okay? Christians are under attack and we are the most persecuted religion on the planet. This weekend, Tom, I was listening to the audio Bible, and I'm not even joking, right when this was happening, Matthew, the verse of Matthew came up where he was saying, blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness and theirs will be the kingdom of heaven. Okay? We're, it's, but we have so many stories, I'm not even gonna get into the second part of it, but, you know, in the last few weeks, there was a coach, this was kind of simple, he was praying with some of the players, he was shot at, he was actually shot.

• 28:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Minneapolis, trans shooter opens fire inside of a church while children are praying, okay? And now we have this, the guy apparently had IEDs, driving into a church and started shooting. And I've said this before, and I apologize to everybody that thinks that I'm just repeating the same talking points, it's not flesh and blood. Everybody thinks we're fighting Antifa, or China, or Muslims, it's not that. We are literally fighting the devil, okay, and our enemy is Satan, okay, and we're seeing it manifest. Here, his power is being manifested here on earth, Tom, and it's undeniable at this point. Can you imagine, guys, could you imagine if every week, Adam, and this is for you guys too, a synagogue was getting bombed? And look at that, look at that footage, look at

• 28:52Tom Ellsworth?

  that. Every week, that was happening to synagogues, or, or, you know, mosques, or temples, a Hindu temple. What the hell, they'd be in outrage. But for some reason, when it comes to us, when it comes to Christians, nobody cares. This isn't gonna be talked about for one more day, and then it's over. And it's, and it's pissing me off, because we need to step the hell up. Everybody steps up for everybody else, Pat, but nobody steps up for us. Well, we're incredibly, amen, Vinnie, amen to that. It's ridiculous. The Lord gave us Jesus Christ to save us from a broken world, and did not promise that this world would be our utopia. But living in the, the foundation of Christ, you, you go to make a, a strong and positive impact on everyone, and you pray for your

• 29:37Tom Ellsworth?

  enemies. And we are a very angry nation right now, and there are things that are manifesting. And people say, well, it's not just Christians. No, it's not just Christians. But the amount of persecution globally is worse among Christians. The UN knows it. The UN even publishes it. Cato Institute publishes it. Sometimes it's inconvenient to talk about that, if you have a narrative that you want to push one way or the other. But it's true. And you have this Church of Latter Day Saints, these people with their kids going to worship, mind their own business, and a guy with a truck comes through, and people say, well, it's all about gun control. He had these large apparent jerrycans with gasoline that set it on fire.

• 30:19Tom Ellsworth?

  So what prevents him from driving through and setting it on fire? Does everybody escape alive? Well, maybe. But you've still got, it's, it's not about the weapon, it's about the people. It's about the people that are there. And Christians are the number one persecuted, but there's a lot of angry things. And I want to know, I want to know this guy's background. I want to know how we could have noticed it, how we could have stopped it, how we could have stepped in. I want to know that. Yeah, look at him, Tom, he's there, look at his wife, he has a

• 30:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, is that a Trump shirt? Zoom in. Yeah, it looks like a Trump

• 30:51Tom Ellsworth?

  2020 shirt.

• 30:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so he, he was a supporter of Trump 2020 pens. Uh, outside of, so he had a sign of Trump and pens outside of his house in his Sanford home. A 2019 social media photo post shows that Sanford, he wore a Trump t-shirt slogan, "Make liberals cry again."

• 31:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Unbelievable.

• 31:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No verified records of his own party registration, Republican, so that's not been reported yet. Investigators have explicitly said that speculation about his motives or political leanings is just that speculation and that they won't draw conclusions. Um, but there's nothing that's, let me, is this him still Rob or is it someone else?

• 31:25Tom Ellsworth?

  This is what the internet's saying is him.

• 31:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, can we read some of these things? Politically active democratic socialist, progressive and proud union member. So is that a post of his?

• 31:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, that's his description on his ex. Thomas J Sanford.

• 31:41Patrick Bet-David?

  July 2020. Is, is that the real name of the guy though? Is it Thomas J Sanford?

• 31:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, are we sure this is the right, um, you know, uh, account? Thomas Jacob Sanford is his name.

• 31:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go back to the other one. I don't see the picture on his face, so I don't know if that's gonna be him. So keep going to the next one. Uh, grandma, I'm a journalist, she don't sound Iraqi, I'm a journalist, killed, has a stop Trump.

• 32:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Stop Trump sign at his house.

• 32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop Trump sign at his house. Okay, stop Trump ha- sign at his house. So not a pro-Trump sign at his house. Keep going, okay? Was a Trump-hating liberal. They tried to scrub his Facebook, but they weren't, uh, quite fast enough. So never support a president who IQ is 30 points lower than yours and failing. And he was talking about Trump, okay? So, so then what is that other picture that people are posting? Okay, what is that one? The one right there with the Trump shirt on? Is that the same guy?

• 32:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Zoom in a little bit more on the shirt, Rob, see if you can.

• 32:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that Trump that posted the picture of him? Liberals, liberals cry again, 2000, see that doesn't add up. So wait, 2020, he joined and he's saying he's a progressive.

• 32:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Democratic, yo.

• 32:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, none of it makes sense. Maybe that's not a shirt honoring Trump. I love, I love. Go back to the, there, there's something in here. Look at his, if this is the right. Account, there is a pinned tweet, Pat, take a look at this pinned tweet, Rob, because you go to that.

• 33:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You just had it a minute ago.

• 33:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, if this is correct, on 2021, a single 1400 payment when the unemployment system owes me over 10 grand to show no remorse for cheating me. I'm underwhelmed. So he appears to be upset. If this is the correct account, we all got to be very careful with this. If the news media is publishing this as the correct account from Eau Claire, Wisconsin, okay? But it appears that there's some anger. He's wearing a Trump shirt that says 2020. And there sure appears to be some like anger at the system. You see that, Pat? Like, like I've been cheated or something's going on. Democrat socialist, progressive, union member. So that there are.

• 33:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He seemed to have donated to Blue numerous times. So he donated to Blue Political Action Pack, $192, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

• 33:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, what was the actual handle? Thomas what?

• 33:58Patrick Bet-David?

  About 12 times he donated to the Democratic Party, if that's the same person we're talking about.

• 34:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me see his handle. I think it was like Thomas J, like his, the account that you had up there.

• 34:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Thomas J Sanford 1. Thomas J Sanford 1.

• 34:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Thomas J.

• 34:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Thomas J Sanford 1. If that account is still up.

• 34:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's see if they have it. And we say allegedly, but this is what the police has indicated. It's not him without a beard. Like, it might be him, people, people without a beard, maybe.

• 34:25Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it doesn't look nothing like the guy.

• 34:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, see? There we go. That's what we do. This guy works for PTI Professional. Yeah, this, and he has a Ukraine flag.

• 34:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 34:32Tom Ellsworth?

  This isn't the same guy.

• 34:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So, here's the part. We, we don't yet know where he's at, okay? Uh, Sanford, Rob, you put a D in there. There wasn't a D. It's a Sanford. You put Sanford.

• 34:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 34:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Sanford.

• 34:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Just to clarify, yeah, you're right. This guy's from Wisconsin.

• 34:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not the same guy.

• 34:47Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not the same guy.

• 34:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not. So, again, more details will come about this. There's another story talking about that, you know, it could be a former member of the church that had a bad experience that was going after that. I don't know if the guy was El Diaz or not, but there's a lot of different stories that come up with this. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 35:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, I can't believe I need to say this, but, uh, political violence or religious violence has. No place in America. We just saw what happened with Charlie Kirk. We've seen multiple situations where places of worship, whether it's this LDS church in Michigan, whether there's the Catholic Church in Minnesota, there's the synagogue in Pittsburgh, whether there's a Sikh temple. This seems to be a common theme here. The, it is incumbent on our, on our cities, on our police forces to protect the most vulnerable. The places of worship and schools and social gatherings should be just that. They should not be crime scenes.

• 35:47Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's becoming all too common that it's a crime scene at a church, crime scene at a school, crime scene at a, at a public gathering. And at what point is say enough's enough? So churches, you know, Rob, I sent you some data. You know, people, America has becoming more secular and secular and secular over the last few decades. And there seems to be at least a pause in people becoming less religious, less Christian even. Here's a, here's a, I don't know if you have this stat right here, but since the shooting of Charlie Kirk, more people have gone back to church. I think we need more of that in America today. The, the biggest challenge that churches have, whether it's churches, whether it's synagogues, whether it's mosques,

• 36:30Tom Ellsworth?

  you know, we can keep that separate, is at one point you want to get people to come in. But how do you keep the bad people out? At this particular church, Latter Day Saints, I guess LDS is known for saying, visitors welcome. They want people to come in and experience church.

• 36:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That's every church though.

• 36:48Tom Ellsworth?

  That's my point. But they want people to come in and experience this. But how do you keep people like this out?

• 36:55Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the, that's the, okay, that's the, that's such a heavy question that you have. It's not, you're not going to be able to do it because what do churches say? Anybody's welcome. The most broken people are welcome because they come in, they get on their knees and they give their life to Christ and you can be forgiven. That's the, that's the part that some other religions and denominations have a hard time with Christianity where they say, we've had this conversation before, you mean to tell me I can go do X, Y, Z and I can come and accept Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, and if you truly believe in it and if it's coming from your heart, that's what makes this. You know, as unique of a, you know, faith that it is, you know, when it becomes, you, you, you want those folks to come. But to me, this, this is, I want to know more.

• 37:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't stand hearing stories like this. Because the last place people need to be worried when they go to is the church. That, that's where you need to go and sit down, pray, go through whatever phases you're going through. I mean, listen, the, the weekend when the Charlie Kirk assassination happened, uh, that was like the last weekend, folks. If you ran a church, that was not the weekend to be asking for money. And, and to come out and say, hey, we have a $28 million building project.

• 38:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man.

• 38:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Some people did that, believe it or not, and that's like the wrong weekend to do it. But, you know, i- i- it's, it's, uh, it's tragic, it's devastating, it's annoying. By the way, I don't care who he supported, he needs to be held accountable. Somebody posted something on Twitter, I bet they'll never bring this up. You're talking to the wrong group, like, we're not those guys that are not going to bring it up and not cover it. Whether he was or he wasn't, for a man to do something like this, you have issues. But I want to know more. I want to know every single thing about this guy's records, what church he went to, what happened with his family, what happened the week before, what happened two weeks before? And God willing, they'll find it, but, uh, uh, terrible, terrible story, Adam.

• 38:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me just weigh in, so, I, I think churches need to, and schools for that matter, need to do a better job of playing defense. You know, my, my point was, you want people to come in, but at what point, at what price? This past week, it was, uh, the Jewish New Year, which is called Rosh Hashanah. And if you were gonna go to temple, oh, there's no way that a shooter is getting in there. Because a temple at this point has become a full-on SWAT-driven security establishment.

• 39:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Good, good.

• 39:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Because the attacks on Jews that are happening, so my Christian friends need to take notice. You know, we talk about tolerance and don't, don't take my kindness as weakness. They're coming after you, whether that's a certain type of people, whether that are atheists, whether that are anarchists. And Jewish people, for that matter, have learned the hard way. And it, my, my hope and prayer is that churches realizes, wow, guys, like, have you not noticed what's going on at churches now? The shootings, this, this thing that happened in Michigan? And, you know, protect yourself, in, in America, we have this sort of like toggling.

• 39:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right about that, you're right about that. I mean, this last vault conference, we spent the, we spent three times as much last vault for security. I don't know how many metal detectors we got.

• 39:56Tom Ellsworth?

  What do you mean, I was late because I was running to a metal detector.

• 39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It was taken a long time to get people to come in purely because of trying to get everybody to make sure that place was safe. So nobody had to be worried about. So yeah, but bigger budget of that hazard. You didn't have to worry about this 10 years ago, 5 years ago. This was like the last thing on our minds, but you have to do it today.

• 40:14Tom Ellsworth?

  And Pat, I have to be armed. Like, you think I want to be armed at my church? I have to, because you know what? I'm taking it, I'm taking the responsibility if God forbid something happens. Guess what? I'm running towards the fire.

• 40:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I was at a, I was at a soccer tournament this weekend. And I was, I was, I was armed the entire time. You have to be. You have to be ready. And but the, the, the, thank God, the way they set up the storm, there was cops everywhere.

• 40:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Good.

• 40:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I love the way they did it. There was cops everywhere. But you have to be. You know what just, what they announced last week? Florida.

• 40:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 40:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Open carry.

• 40:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I'm showing you. Saw that image of that dude on the back of the bike in Florida.

• 40:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's open carry. Go ahead, Tom.

• 40:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm sorry. No, I said, I said, open. Open carry.

• 40:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Open carry. So anyways.

• 40:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember, um, Pat, we had a conversation a couple of years ago with Zubie? And it was a conversation of what's a better city, Riyadh in Saudi Arabia or New York City?

• 41:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 41:05Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'm like, New York City, obviously, dude. And he's like, not so fast, buddy. Have you ever been to Saudi? Which prompted a conversation between the difference between America and certain other places in the world, between freedom and safety. In America, we value our freedom, right? Another great Patrick, Patrick Henry said, give me, give me liberty or give me death. That's what we value. But what's the price of freedom? You have stuff like this. Where you have your other cities where there's zero religious, or I'm sorry, freedoms in a lot of the Middle Eastern countries, UAE or Saudi, there's no freedoms, but they're safe. You hear stories like, you could leave your wallet out there, nobody's gonna steal it. So there's this sort of like balance, it's like a seesaw between freedom and safety. I'd much rather have the freedom that we have in America, but we need protection as well.

• 41:50Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but the, everything is based on what you had to escape. So what we had to escape.

• 41:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Caused the way the founding fathers created America was to allow you to have guns to say, "You shouldn't be afraid of us. We want you to also be able to protect yourself." That if the government ever wanted to become tyrannical and come after you, you're fully protected. It's not, not everybody has the same story of reasoning of how they start their countries. But America was that and quite frankly, I don't mind it. I actually, you know, support how this place was built. That's why we're here. Alright, let's get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is, there was one story that all of you guys wanted to talk about. Was it Nigeria? Yeah, Nigeria. That's the one. Okay. Please read into it. Yeah. So, you know, 7,000 Christians have been killed in Nigeria this year.

• 42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  7,000. According to Newsweek, this story came out. And you don't hear much about it. Okay? You don't. You hear a lot more about Gaza than you hear about Christians. Christians get killed, even some Christians don't talk about it enough. They put more focus on to what's going on with Gaza because it's easier to have a enemy that is disliked than this. However, this is the reality of it, what's going on in Nigeria right now. 7,000 Christians have been killed in, during the first 220 days of 2025. A civil society watchdog says this is an average of 35 killings.

• 43:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Killings a day, according to a recent report published by the Nigeria-based Human Rights NGO International Society for Civil Liberties and the Rule of Law. Nigeria has long been an epicenter of Christian persecution with more Christians killed for their faith in Nigeria than in the rest of the world combined. Damn. According to human rights organization Open Doors, which monitors the persecution of Christians around the globe, the violence has displaced at least 12 million Christians since 09.

• 43:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Sixteen years, according to InterSociety. This, that year marked the start of Boko Haram's insurgency to establish a caliphate in Nigeria and the broader Sahel. In the sixteen years since, InterSociety estimates 189,000 civilians have been killed, 125,000 of whom were Christians, and 60,000 were liberal Muslims. The InterSociety reports that 7,087 Christians were killed in Nigeria between January 1st and August 10th, and that 7,800 were abducted in the same period. The report identified Benu State in Nigeria, Middle Belt, as among the hardest hit with

• 44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  at least 1,100 deaths, including the Yalawata massacre in June with 280 Christians were killed. Rob, if you have a clip to play, is this the clip of the gentleman explaining what's going on? Oh, this the one that I'm running out? Okay, go for it.

• 44:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It's after church service, I believe, by the way.

• 44:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, every gunshot you're hearing is hitting a person.

• 45:01Tom Ellsworth?

  My people, my family members, they died in this house. Eleven, and some died in the other school. Eight, some died here. My whole family members that died yesterday, day before yesterday, on that very day, there were 20. That is my own family members. I'm not talking about any other thing. That is my own family members. This is my store. Those shops are my stores. Those places are being burned.

• 45:31Patrick Bet-David?

  This work.

• 45:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Those places, this place is being burned. Here and up, my house is up there. That place also is burned. And the store where I pack my goods, I store my goods everywhere has burned. They burned my clothes, they burned everything, they burned our food, all my family members. What we came out with is our clothes, what we wear. And I, standing here, this is what I came out with, and this is the only thing that I have. There's no anything with me.

• 46:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, thoughts?

• 46:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Going back to exactly what I was talking about and it's like, I'm gonna be honest. I had no idea and why is that? Because the mainstream media doesn't give a damn and they're not reporting this. It took Bill Maher, it took Bill Maher, and you guys know me. I'm one of the most critical about this freaking guy, TDS. He goes back, he goes left, he goes right. It took him having Nancy Mace on to bring this up. Bob, you wanna play this clip?

• 46:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 46:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, play this clip, please.

• 46:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Nigeria, I mean, the fact that this issue has not gotten on people's radar. Right, no one's talking about it. It's pretty amazing. If you don't know what's going on in Nigeria, your media sources suck.

• 46:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yup.

• 46:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You are in a bubble. And again, I'm not a Christian, but they are systematically killing the Christians in Nigeria. They've killed over 100,000 since 2009. They've burned 18,000 churches. This is so much more, these are Islamists, Boko Haram. This is so much more of a genocide attempt than what is going on in Gaza. They are literally attempting to wipe out the Christian population of an entire country. Where are the kids protesting this? Thank you. That's a great point. Of course, no one will talk about it, so thank you. Absolutely.

• 47:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And so why? Is it because, and he said this, Adam, I know you said this a point, I gotta give you credit where credit's due. No Jews, no news, okay? This is a calling for all the Christian people, like, where are you at? That's, and you made, you said it, I had to highlight it. Forty-one, in 2023, 4,100 Christians killed. That's 82% of all faith-based related killings worldwide. Guys, 84% of every Christian dying is right there, okay? And meanwhile, guess what the US lawmakers are pushing? They're pushing, they haven't declared anything, labeling Nigeria a country of particular concern. All right, what particular concern? The concern is there. And this is, guys, and the most powerful part, and I have to hold back my freaking emotions,

• 48:00Tom Ellsworth?

  with all this persecution, Pat, 94% of Nigerian Catholics are still, still going to mass every week. Their faith is freaking unshaken, even in the face of death. Rob, can you play this clip? Look at this. Look at that. They're refusing. Holy moly, God bless them. Look at this.

• 48:31Tom Ellsworth?

  You can stop it, Rob. So that's what faith over fear. Look at that, Tom. Faith, they still, and they're not stopping. They're not stopping, and I absolutely love. Pat, they can't. What are they gonna do? Bow down and say, no, no, we're sorry. No, no, no, you gotta stake up for your faith, and that's it. Wow.

• 48:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

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• 49:45Tom Ellsworth?

  This is heavy stuff.

• 49:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'm glad to finally see it coming out in media so that people can see the truth of what's going on in this world. This is why the world needs a savior. And what you have here is you have people understanding that a church is not a building. A church is a gathering of believers who are supporting each other, holding hands in the remnant of a building there, not knowing if their oppressors are gonna return to finish the job on them. That is faith in action. That is faith over fear. And what you also have is, although Nigeria is rich in resources, they got a lot of natural resources. The way to get people to help you in this world is to have oil, to have gold, or have rich minerals, and then the West that needs those

• 50:33Tom Ellsworth?

  is more likely to give you aid and come help. That's not a criticism, that's a fact. And the thing that inspires me is that these people are living and trying to do it. What further inspires me is the churches and organizations around the world that are continuing to send missionaries and relief supplies into these areas. Darfur has been going on for 20 years now. Darfur, yeah. Yeah, Darfur, 20 years. And so to understand the power of the faith is to see it right there and to say, what could make someone there simply come together and pray? Not pick up arms, not go on a retaliation mission, but to come together and pray in

• 51:17Tom Ellsworth?

  encouragement. That's what this is all about. The number one persecuted group on earth is Christians. You can spin it any way you want, but you'd be wrong. This is what's happening. And they're returning prayer and peace in the face of persecution. And you've got governments, in this case, it happens to be Sunni side of the Islamic tradition that is in control of the government, that is systematically trying to wipe everybody else out, specifically the Christians. And the reason the Christians are dangerous, if you ask, they will tell you, is because

• 51:56Tom Ellsworth?

  they're fearless and they keep talking about Christ and they keep attempting to bring the good news of Jesus to other people, which causes people to convert. It's not political, it's not. Are you scared about carrying a Republican or a Democrat voter ID? No, I'll just carry independent, so if anybody steals my wallet, they won't pick on me. No, these are people that are bringing the good news of Jesus Christ, and these people are unafraid. And that is what the other side fears, is the power of the Holy Spirit and people converting. So what do they do? They think that by burning

• 52:32Patrick Bet-David?

  The churches and the killing the people that they're doing it. This is horrifying, but they are liberating, but they are also. They are also inspiring people to be missionaries, to reach out and do it. And I just wish that the attitude of the media wouldn't be. The right people are dying.

• 52:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Adam. Well, uh. I don't know how you guys haven't noticed this, but this is something that's been going on for years and years and years and years. And the media just doesn't cover it, but it doesn't take an investigative journalism to realize that. The following, you know, they famously say not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists just happen to be Islamists. And I would like to separate what it is between it being an Islamist or jihadist between a normal. Peace-loving Muslim, like let's get real here. But all these groups have something in common, whether it's ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, the Boko Haram that just. Murdering Christians in Nigeria, whether it's the Islamic Jihad, whether it's the Houthis in Yemen. They're all jihadists. So which makes me wonder.

• 53:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Hamas is literally one of these groups. This is their function. They want to kill people who are not like them. The only difference is all these other groups are focusing on Christians. Hamas just happens to be focusing on Jews, but they famously say first they come for the Saturday people. But then guess what? Then they come for the Sunday people. These people do not want to coexist. What don't you get, guys? What don't you get? I mean, you know, you might have your criticism, what's going on in Gaza? But Jews in or Israelis, because not all Israelis are Jewish. Have a very deep understanding of it's kill or be killed, unfortunately. You think you're, you think you're going to negotiate with Boko Haram?

• 54:18Tom Ellsworth?

  You think you're going to reason with these people that are literally mowing people down their leaving church? They have a higher calling from Allah to.

• 54:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Commit jihad or practice jihad. And there's nothing, nothing stopping them. You know, Pat, you always talk about choose your enemies wisely. You know, and you give credit to your enemies. You give them credit because they're very clear in what they want. They want to take you out in business or they want to take you out in life. And it's very clear what's happening. You said, no Jews, no news. Correct. Why are there protests just for Gaza? I mean, show me a protest for what's going on in Nigeria. Christians getting mowed down, nothing. Show me a protest for what's going on in Sudan. Millions of people. Show me a protest of what's going on in Ukraine at this point. Nothing. So the hypocrisy that comes from, well, it's a genocide in Gaza.

• 55:13Tom Ellsworth?

  There's other countries in the world where Christians are being persecuted, not just persecuted, killed, beheaded. You see what's going on in Syria. That's literally, they're trying to do 125,000 people. Intentional murdering. You see what happened with the Druze and the Christians in Syria. But, you know, I always have fun when, when I see people doing the free Palestine. Okay, cool, I respect that. And I said, you see these interviews. Why are you doing this? We're anti-war, we're anti-war. Great. Name me one other protest you've ever been to. Name me one other. No, this is the only thing I've ever done. So that's, that's the hypocrisy that they've never gone to any other anti-war protests other than what's going on in Gaza.

• 55:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll tell you what though, man. Let me tell you guys. If there's anything, like I had a very intense conversation with one of my kids last night. Very intense conversation with one of my kids last night. You have to be very careful, man, to, to not fall, fall for the mob. And just because somebody is so convincing in their delivery of their message, you can't, you cannot be, and you may sit there and you may be like, well, he seems like he's this, he seems like he's that, he seems like he's this. He's like, yeah, oh my God, that's what they're doing. It's just, "Oh my god, I'm feeling it." And you're like, "Hey, pump the brakes, bro." This is how you all of a sudden get recruited into mob. Be very, very careful

• 56:37Patrick Bet-David?

  of how you get manipulated and brainwashed into certain things. Okay? Um, you have to be. They do it to kids. They do it to adults. It happens, it doesn't matter if you're 70 years old, 80 years old, 22 years old, 42 years old, or 13 years old. They're gonna come after you to try to brainwash you. And almost, you know what percentage falls for it? You know what percentage falls for it? What percentage of PP thing fall for brainwashing? For the mob? What percentage? I'm gonna give you a number, I bet you're not gonna get it right. What do you think the number is?

• 57:11Tom Ellsworth?

  80 to 90.

• 57:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage falls for it? I'm gonna tell you a number.

• 57:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Falls for the brainwashing?

• 57:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Falls for the mob

• 57:18Tom Ellsworth?

  90.

• 57:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Getting a hold of your brain.

• 57:20Tom Ellsworth?

  90%?

• 57:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're like, you're like, supporting something that's absolutely

• 57:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Ridiculous.

• 57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Ridiculous.

• 57:29Tom Ellsworth?

  90?

• 57:29Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage falls for it?

• 57:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll say 90. I go with 66.

• 57:32Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you gonna say?

• 57:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, 40%? 50%?

• 57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  100%! All of us do.

• 57:38Tom Ellsworth?

  See that?

• 57:38Patrick Bet-David?

  All of us do. Anybody who see you're sitting, you're acting like, "Oh, that would never happen to me." You're part of it as well. No one walks on water. I'm telling you, for myself, I have to watch for it. I'm better off thinking all of us are, uh, what's the word? Are potential victims to falling for the mob. Everybody! Good, bad, horrible people, it doesn't matter. The most noble person can fall for the flipping mob. This is not about like, "I have more education, it can't happen to me." The most educated people have been bought into the mob. The ones with the fanciest degree that are part of this community are recruited into the mob, by the mob. Go to universities, where do you think most of these dumb protests are happening? Where?

• 58:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're asking basic questions they don't have an answer for. This guy here, I don't have a clue who this guy is. But I've watched more clips of this guy in the last four days than anybody else in the world. He knows how to sing songs in 54 languages.

• 58:39Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy is incredible, Itai Benda. I don't know who he is. And when I tell you, Vinnie, I watch forty, fifty videos. I watch it with Tico, Dylan, and Senna, and my wife Jen. We're on the way to the tournament this weekend. So he doesn't tell you where he's from first. Okay. He first asks you where you're from. Got you. Then he sings a song for you. Then at the end, he tells you where you're from. And then they get mad. Because he's from Israel. So watch this here. Go ahead, Rob. Play this clip.

• 59:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I live in Germany, but I'm from Turkey. Nice. Can I sing a song for you? Like what was the song? Israeli song or something like that? Let me sing a song for you. Let me sing a song for you at first. Maybe? A small, a small one. Okay. Love me like you do. Love me, love me.

• 59:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, there we go. So he's from Turkey, right? Now watch it.

• 59:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifty-four languages. Vinnie?

• 59:35Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 59:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinnie, since it's broken.

• 59:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Korkuyorum gecelerin karın ayında. Incredible.

• 59:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at the mukka guy, so he's from Turkey. This is his way of bringing people together. Now watch what happens.

• 59:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't speak Turkish, bro. The [bleep]. You speak even better Turkish than me. No, I don't speak Turkish. Where are you from? Are you from Iran or something like that? I'm from Israel. There is no Israel. You can Google it. It's on Google. No, it's not. Of course, there is. It's only Israel for people who don't believe in God. Arkadashim, there is Israel, of course, there is. Wallah, there is not. What's in there if not Israel? There is only Palestine. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, for sure. How many times Israel is mentioned in the Quran? I think only seven times. No, no, forty-three times. We know that Israel and Azrael is the same piece of [bleep]. And how many times Palestine is mentioned? Palestine is not only one time. Ah. We don't have countries in Islam. What is Israel meaning for Islam? Means the people of Israel, the Jewish, yes. The Christians too, the Christians living too there. But they are now gone because the Israel people don't like them.

• 1:00:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Arkadashim, yeah. You're just seeing a lot of lies. Because to me, I have many Arab and Christian friends lives in Israel. No, you don't have. I grew up with Arab friends, many, many. I grew up with them. They are blind. Yeah, they don't see what you are for a person. You go to Israel, look how many Arabs live the best life, the best life. No one will go there back, because Insha Allah, Iran broke this country. I hope that every Muslim country break this building in one. Nah, they try so, they, they try so many times, so many times, they cannot. There is no Jewish people anymore. There are only Pfarah people and rich bitches. Uh huh, you are jealous. This is the, the point. You are jeal, you are jealous, you are jealous. You are jealous, ya ammi, al kada shim ya, al kada shim ya benim ya. You are jealous ya, you are jealous ya, of ya. Yes, I am. Yeah, of course. So say I'm jealous.

• 1:01:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I say it now three times, you didn't understand. So, so if, if I, if I'm jealous about, if I'm jealous about you, I don't need to hate you. But you hate me because you're jealous. I only hate people who think that it's normal to be killing little kids, the Jewish piece of [BLEEP]. I'm not. The, the problem is jealousy and stupidity together, jealous and stupidity together. You are right. Yes, if you open your mind, you see the truth. Shut up. Okay.

• 1:01:50Patrick Bet-David?

  It all started with singing a song. By the way, this guy does this. Rob, can you go back to his account, please? Go back to his account. First of all, I'm gonna give a shout out to this guy. I don't have a clue who you are, Itai. Go a little bit lower. I don't have a clue who you are, okay? I've never met this guy, I've never talked to this guy. Go lower. He does one for an Armenian girl. Where is it? Uh, he, he does two Persian songs, but right there, Rob, just play that one for the first forty-five seconds. I just want you to hear how he sings. Okay. Watch this.

• 1:02:16Tom Ellsworth?

  What's up, how are you? I like your room. You like my room? I like it. Yes. I actually like it too.

• 1:02:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Just, just go ahead, I'm, I'm ready.

• 1:02:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:02:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm set.

• 1:02:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, uh, where, where are you from originally? Like, do you speak only English?

• 1:02:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at her reaction. Uh, I'm from Armenia.

• 1:02:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Armenia? Oh.

• 1:02:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, this guy is amazing.

• 1:03:00Patrick Bet-David?

  She's getting emotional.

• 1:03:01Tom Ellsworth?

  She's getting sad.

• 1:03:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Okay, so you know what I love about this guy? He takes, how long do you think it takes to learn fifty-four languages of a song to do?

• 1:03:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Ten years, maybe more.

• 1:03:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know.

• 1:03:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Every day, I don't know how you break it.

• 1:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he did Portuguese to Brazilian girl, Spain, he did to Siberia, he did one for Romanian guys. He couldn't believe it. The reaction from people are like, are you sure you're not Romanian? He says, no, I'm not, I'm from... Just because he wants to find a way to bring people together. See, we need to recognize people like this more.

• 1:03:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 1:03:38Patrick Bet-David?

  To see what they're doing. This is who needs to get a billion views.

• 1:03:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:03:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy needs to go viral for billions of people to see that at the end of the day, we're human beings. Let's find a way to work together.

• 1:03:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 1:03:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's find a way to unify. So, again, don't know who you are, respect the hell out of you for doing what you're doing. I can watch this guy all day. And for some of you guys that are watching this and you see the story with Nigeria, and you wonder, you know, you know, one of the biggest shirt for the year that we've launched? That sold thousands overnight, one week, is Faith Over Fear. I absolutely love the fact that Vinnie's shirt, Faith Over Fear, has done the way that it has, because it tells me there's thousands of people bold enough that are willing to wear something like this, to work to the gym, to everywhere they go to say, this is what I'm all about. That's, this is the message that I think we need more in America. For some of you guys that are watching this, ladies, it was good to see.

• 1:04:33Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a girl.

• 1:04:34Patrick Bet-David?

  How many ladies?

• 1:04:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Way more than...

• 1:04:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Ordered this shirt. Yeah, ladies was on fire this weekend, which is great to see. But anyways.

• 1:04:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I give you a fun fact?

• 1:04:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 1:04:41Tom Ellsworth?

  So, this guy.

• 1:04:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You're gonna say you partied with that guy nine years ago.

• 1:04:44Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, but I've seen him before, I've seen this guy. Benda. He better speak a Syrian, like I want an Assyrian song if he doesn't.

• 1:04:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what, I'm with you.

• 1:04:51Tom Ellsworth?

  A Syrian song. I'm gonna reach out to you and I want you to sing in a Syrian song for my friend.

• 1:04:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He will do it.

• 1:04:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Patrick Bet David. The reason that I want to emphasize the last name Patrick Bet David because Eti Benda, his last name is not Benda. It's Bet David. Eti Bet David. House of. So Ben means the son of David. Bet, I think is the house.

• 1:05:14Patrick Bet-David?

  House.

• 1:05:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Of David. So. Gabriel. What's so amazing about this guy, I think he's born in Jerusalem. I think he lives in LA now. I could be mistaken. But you said this, Pat. He believes in peace through music. We have way more in common than we have that divides us. And there's an example of like, guy, I'm gonna sing for you. I want to be amazing.

• 1:05:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to go and listen to that Armenian song one more time.

• 1:05:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's do it.

• 1:05:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it.

• 1:05:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Go ahead.

• 1:05:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want you to play it right now.

• 1:05:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Go play it right now.

• 1:05:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just saying like when this ends, you have to, I'm telling you.

• 1:05:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I have to.

• 1:05:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna send you his account. Rob, can we put his account over for people to go follow? Can you guys just do me a favor?

• 1:05:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Eti. And message him and tell him Assyrian.

• 1:05:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And if you like what he's doing, if you like what he's doing, send him some love in a DM.

• 1:05:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Eti.

• 1:05:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Let him know he got a bunch of love today.

• 1:05:54Tom Ellsworth?

  And he better listen to Syrian song.

• 1:05:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Freaking amazing voice.

• 1:05:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Eti Bet David. Look at his name right there. Eti Bet David.

• 1:06:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What are the chances?

• 1:06:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at the Bet Davids and the Bet David doing our things.

• 1:06:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Whether it's an N or a T, it's a good last name.

• 1:06:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree. Thank you for doing what you do, my friend.

• 1:06:10Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is the, um, uh, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. U.S. birth rates plummet to an all time low as housing prices continue to rise. Okay. Adam, I'm gonna come to you with this one since this is the story you wanted to talk about.

• 1:06:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir.

• 1:06:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to it, folks.

• 1:06:27Tom Ellsworth?

  What page is it on?

• 1:06:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Noensen. Okay. Newsda.

• 1:06:32Tom Ellsworth?

  What, what number?

• 1:06:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Newsda is nineteen.

• 1:06:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:06:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You want me to give you another language?

• 1:06:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Now you're just showing off.

• 1:06:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't sing in 40, 54 languages.

• 1:06:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Machlata, how about that?

• 1:06:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Machlata is better, yes. The US birth rate plunged to an all-time low in 2024 after, on a downward trajectory roughly 20 years with soaring housing costs cited as major contributing factor. Earlier this summer, US Center for Disease Control and Prevention released an updated birth rate for this year, revealing that the nation's national fertility rate to less than 1.6, I think the exact number is 1.59 to be exact, kids per woman, down from 2.1 just 19 years ago. Wow. Which, that's the replacement rate, by the way. The country needs to sustain its population. The last two decades saw women increasingly delaying having children or choosing to not have them at all. There are many factors fueling this trend, including personnel and culture, and one of

• 1:07:30Patrick Bet-David?

  them is rising housing costs. Data analyzed by Realtor.com economists showed that 2006 to 2024, the financial burden of purchasing a home has grown dramatically. In 2006, the median price of a single-family home was $222,000, which is now $343,000 in 2024 dollars, when adjusted for inflation. But by comparison, the median sale in 2024 was $410,000, which is $66,000 more than what it was in 26. Over time, the 18-year period, the US total fertility rate dropped from 2.1 to 1.6. Adam?

• 1:08:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, to me, these are two totally separate stories that they tried to like hodgepodge together to give some reasons as to why birth plates, uh, birth rates are plummeting. Yeah, dude, does the housing market have something to do with it a little bit? But not really. So, intersexual dynamics is really the reason here. Housing aside, you, you, listen, you could rent the place, you could buy a place, that's not going to stop you from having kids. The biggest problem is what we discussed last week. You have young men in America that want nothing more than to settle down, have a family, have a wife, have kids. This is something that men have notoriously been known to do through, all throughout history. So that's sort of like the staple in this. The variable in this is the mindset of what women are doing these days.

• 1:08:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Modern feminist movement has ruined a lot of women, and they, and they'd rather focus on their careers than family. And all you have to simply do is this, is if you're a woman, like, this is my best advice for young women. If you're 22, you're 24, you're 18, you're 28, go talk to a 50-year-old woman that never got married, never had kids, but wanted to. You'll see nothing but regret in their eyes and they'll mask it with things like, you know, I was focused on my career, this one guy I dated, you know, these are all just excuses. And there's nothing that I would like to see more that young men and young women actually come together and find some common ground here. So it was what, number one on the list for young men, Pat? Having children. To settle down, have a family, right? Those who voted for Trump. And it was for liberal women, it was what number on the list? Number 12.

• 1:09:33Tom Ellsworth?

  So you have young men, I wouldn't even say they're conservative, they're just normal, sensible, common sense guys that want a chick. And they're fighting the struggle of modern feminism. And I see it all the time. You meet a young woman, she's amazing, you check out and then you click on her link in bio and it goes to OnlyFans. And it happens way more than you think. And the most gorgeous women out there that used to be housewives or wonderful women or churchgoing women are now OnlyFans girls. And this is a continual perpetuating problem. And then young men are faced with the decision of, wow, I met this girl. Am I really going to lower my standards for this beautiful woman who does OnlyFans? Nope. And they're going to say, I don't know about that. Is this really the type of girl I'm going to bring home for mom?

• 1:10:18Tom Ellsworth?

  And women, I understand, make your money, have your career. But it is going to come at a price. And I hope that the price is worth it. Please talk to older women and see what they think. That's my advice for young women. I 100% agree with Adam and I'm going to add this to it. And thank you very much for that, Adam. You're absolutely right. And I'm going to add to it. Wow, I'll take it, Tom. That liberalism. I'll take it to the bank. Yeah, liberalism and progressive policy, to add on to what Adam's talking about. The only progress that progressive liberalism has done is made progress breaking the family. Made progress being, trying to teach the tenants of family break in the schools. Being able to push liberalism, that's progressive. That's where they're making progress, is in infiltrating the minds of young

• 1:11:04Tom Ellsworth?

  men and young boys and girls that grow up to have exactly the dynamic that Adam's talking about. A guy that is looking to get married and looking around. For who and then finding out that the mindset of of a lot of women, not all of them out there is all about. And it's it's devastating. I don't understand what writer went to a whiteboard to put these two things together. And I agree with Adam at the beginning, they just slammed these two things together, the hodgepodge and made a story. But this is, this is deeper. Maybe, maybe an expensive house is part of it. But at the end of it, you've got progressive policy has destroyed marriage and has infiltrated the minds of kids.

• 1:11:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Which is why conservative people want this stuff not taught in schools. So that kids can grow up. And when you take a look at replacement rate, take a look at what happens downstream. You destroy the family, your taxes long term go up and you destroy the fabric of that country. Yeah, I agree.

• 1:12:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you show that or no?

• 1:12:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, can we show that clip?

• 1:12:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that part of it? If it is, you can't show it.

• 1:12:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know if you can do that. He's on stage, it might be a special.

• 1:12:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, then don't show. But what's he saying right there, Rob?

• 1:12:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, are we allowed to play this clip? I don't know.

• 1:12:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no.

• 1:12:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, well, let me just summarize this because Andrew Schultz did an amazing job. I think a year about his special and he goes, ladies, how we all doing out there? And he says, you know, I see these protests that are going on out there. And I'm trying to find common ground and the ladies that are like, you know, we deserve the right to work. He's like, I agree, go for it, you know, and they're basically saying, you know, we deserve to have sex with anybody you want. And he's like, okay, have fun with it. You know, we deserve to free the nipple, go for it. And they're basically, he's just sort of encompassing feminist ideology and he goes, listen, are you feminists? Or F-boys? Because, you know, F-boys, because this is how men think. Work, make money, hot chicks, blah, blah. This is how women think at this point.

• 1:13:01Tom Ellsworth?

  And he sort of exposes their progressive mindset is that they're basically trying to be the people they hate, which is F-boys. And Andrew Schultz encompasses it greatly, but modern feminism is not helping. The good news is we are starting to see women and content creators say, I'm just a lovely housewife. And I'm here to help my husband and have kids and it's an amazing opportunity.

• 1:13:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to church. Whatever you're doing right now, if you're one of these guys, go to church this Sunday. Find a local church. And I told this to a guy this weekend who was asking me, says, what do I do? I'm going through a really tough time in my life. I said, go to church, but don't get discouraged if the first church sucks. I went through 26 until I found one, okay? So don't let it be like, oh my God, I went there and they talked about raising money. Oh my God, I went there and they were talking about a very technical story. Oh my God, I went there, I don't really connect with the pastor. You're right, you're not gonna connect with all the pastors. But then there's gonna come that one moment, and when it does, you're gonna feel it. You'll be in church, all the way in the back, sitting by yourself, and you're gonna have that moment of yours. And you can say, oh my God, God spoke to me today.

• 1:14:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You'll feel it when it happens to you, but go to church. Basic step number one, go to church.

• 1:14:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I say one thing? I fully agree with you.

• 1:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  For the Jewish church?

• 1:14:17Tom Ellsworth?

  It's called the synagogue. But you know, I've become more, I think, more practicing since October 7th. You told me, you know, go, go to, go, get closer to God. And I've tried to, and I am, and I do practicing. What I will, what I will say is I think more people should take that advice. The problem I have is also the hypocrisy and the double standards. You have no idea how many, and specifically women, but it's also guys. I see them drinking, partying, doing all sorts of thing in Miami on Saturday night, and they go to church Sunday, and they ask for forgiveness. Well, that's not how it. And I don't know how it works. Well, that's, well, that's not how it works. But it doesn't seem like there's alignment where your words and your actions are not congruent. If you wanna listen.

• 1:14:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Your words are, yeah, I wanna get closer to God, I wanna go to church, I wanna find a husband. But then you're partying at space until 5 a.m. in Miami. No, well, guess what? Everybody out there, go listen to James, the book of James. Just have it play, do an audio and listen to it, and he names all that stuff. You can't be that practicing, talking about, like, and knowing that you're gonna do it. Like, it's not, it's not cleansing yourself, like, I can do whatever I want throughout the week, and then Sunday I'm back. No, no, cuz he's watching, bro. You have to be intentional, you know what I mean? You have to cut off so many freaking things, and it's so hard, bro. He's like, your mind, if you're, if you're, you know what I mean? If your right eye is looking somewhere, cut it out. If you're, you know what I mean? If you're temptation with your right hand, cut it off. Like, and if you're knowingly doing at it, cuz once you go all in, once you go all in,

• 1:15:43Tom Ellsworth?

  you can't be the fence guy. Like, and I know, cuz you mentioned that when you were talking about how, well, if I'm doing all this stuff, and I just at the end, I say, hey, I'm sorry, I'm gonna go to heaven. That's not, if you're. You don't truly mean it, Adam, and you don't take the steps to try to become a good Christian? You know how hard, you know how hard, just the stuff that's going on in here? I'm at church and there's a beautiful girl and my, it's a fight. Your brain is like, dude, don't look, it's a constant, constant battle, but no, that's not how it works. I'm glad that you talked about that because I, by the way, it's not, it's not just exclusive in the Christian community. I have Jewish friends, Orthodox Jewish friends, where they're, they're doing the Sabbath and then after Shabbat, they're out partying in the club. No, that's not how it works. I'm like, guys, that's not how it works. Or I'll see a Muslim girl, be like, that's her ram and she'll do this, and then she's on OnlyFans.

• 1:16:26Tom Ellsworth?

  So the double standard and the hypocrisy is like, the words that come out of your mouth are different than the actions that you actually do. No. And alignment, I think, is Adam's show.

• 1:16:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You make a really good point, but I would ask you a question. If you ran into somebody that was in your lane of life insurance and they were corrupt and they were really bad and you were really disgusted by that, would that keep you from your career doing as well as you've done in your lane of life insurance? No, it wouldn't. And so I think we have to be careful that we say, we don't blame flawed people that keep us from making our spiritual decision. Because sometimes it ends up that you, you may not realize it, but it may come across kind of as a, as an excuse argument. Well, there's so much hypocrisy, why should I go to church? Wait a minute, if, if you see bad plumbers in town, would you not be a plumber? No, you'd be the best plumber you could be. Some people would call him a plumber. I mean, Adam growing up as a kid.

• 1:17:18Tom Ellsworth?

  That's true, laying pipe.

• 1:17:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But no, you're right, I totally get what you're saying. I think that the biggest thing with, you know, where, where Adam is going with what he's saying, I fully agree. Because you think that's like your card. I'm gonna go here, then I'm gonna go to the club. No, it's contradiction. What I learned in life, like the, the, the times I was the most at peace. And if you're solving for peace, I've never been more at peace in life when my beliefs that I would project to myself, my values and principles, match the way I live.

• 1:17:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I've never been happier than those to be in a line. Guy asked me a question that says, you know, what's the key to happiness? I said alignment. Alignment. If you truly live the life that you think is the right life to live based on the values and principles you believe in, believe in, what, what do you, what are you worried about? Like, what do you, what weight are you carrying? You're not. You're living true to yourself and the values and principles. So if you, you, you say you're a Christian, you're going by the values and principles. Try to lift.

• 1:18:22Tom Ellsworth?

  PBD, I actually want to ask you this question on alignment. Cause we've had multiple discussions on air, off air, you know, this whole thing, cut it off. How do you, what would be your advice to have to people to live with alignment? Cause essentially.

• 1:18:34Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not easy, Adam.

• 1:18:35Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I'm saying, it's not easy.

• 1:18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not. I'm, I'm, I'm, look, I just told you a minute ago, who buys into the mob? What did I say?

• 1:18:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Everybody, 100%.

• 1:18:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yo, yo, I'm gonna say 80% as if I'm included, like I'm the smart one, I'm not gonna get. No, it's very hard to be aligned, Adam. Very, very hard to be aligned. Very.

• 1:18:51Tom Ellsworth?

  What's step one?

• 1:18:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Just, just slide into my DMs and look at the type of DMs I'm getting.

• 1:18:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah?

• 1:18:56Patrick Bet-David?

  The videos I'm getting.

• 1:18:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Show me, Pat, show me, Pat. It was great hanging with you last night, buddy.

• 1:19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Nah, I don't get DMs from guys telling me last night was great, but, but, uh, uh, but, but the point I'm trying to tell you is, look, there comes a time in your life where, you know, you, you can be 45 and some may think you're a man, but you're just an old boy.

• 1:19:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not a man. You're a boy. That boy is still in you. You still haven't gotten rid of that boy. Me, me, me, me, me. It's about me. Everything revolves around me. You know, and that, that, that mindset that you have, I don't care how old you are. But then when you become a man, to me, man equals responsibilities. Man equals leading. Man equals keeping your word. Man equals people relying on you. Man equals contributing to society. Man equals carrying the burden of a handful of people. You have to. That's our job. Last night I'm sitting there, Dylan is sitting there, listen to me, we're talking.

• 1:20:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I say, you know, what it is to be a leader. Leader carries burden. Yesterday, the Dallas Cowboys played the Green Bay Packers. And I love what Micah said in the interview. And it was 40-40. Micah in the interview says, "I went to Jordan Love and I feel, I feel bad because he did his part. He put up 40 points of offense. We didn't do our part. This was our loss. And I don't feel good. I don't feel good. I don't feel good. We have to come through. Our quarterback did his part. Our quarterback did his part. It was a great thing to say in the interview, but Micah's carrying burden. That's exactly how you want your best defensive player to interview. Okay, where he puts the onus on who? On himself. What a thing to say where it's always on the other person. It's always on the other side.

• 1:20:53Patrick Bet-David?

  There's something very attractive about a man wanting more responsibility. But you want to know what it is about wanting more responsibility? You lose 80% of your liberties. You know what I did this weekend? This weekend, I drove 500 miles back and forth to go to soccer tournaments. 500 miles this weekend. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. In the sun, in the heat, outside. People have umbrellas. I didn't know you needed umbrellas for suns. But you know, I'm like, not even raining. Why do you have an umbrella? Because of sun. Okay, not a bad idea. But

• 1:21:29Patrick Bet-David?

  it's a burden. So what would I have rather have done this weekend? I had, I'm behind on two books that I want to read. And while we're driving there, I can't even listen to my audiobook because he's reading the book because it's his homework. So I can't play music and I can't play anything. So I turn off the music and I'm just driving. And the reason why I like driving is I can listen to music. I can listen to audiobook and I can talk to somebody that's with me company, good conversation. I can't do any of them. So I'm like, there's a mosquito.

• 1:21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Rock on the windshield. And then you're there, right? But you know what? It's the greatest burden. Nothing like it. Watching the development of a human being that's relying on you for direction. And he's seen everything that you're doing. There's, there's nothing like it. So you asked the question, you know, that's what I would say to you. When it comes on to that anyways, alright, let's get to to the next topic here. Next topic, Mayor Adams just dropped out. And he said, I quit, I'm done, I'm out of it. Uh, and um, you know, it it does again, I'm Tom, I'm gonna come to you here in a minute. But uh, he ends his reelection bid for New York City mayor. Does he say anything, Rob?

• 1:22:35Tom Ellsworth?

  I guess this is the announcement last night.

• 1:22:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. And yet, despite all we've achieved, I cannot continue my reelection campaign. The constant media speculation about my future and the campaign finance board's decision to withhold millions of dollars have undermined my ability to raise the funds needed for a serious campaign. I hope that over time, New Yorkers will see this city thrive under our leadership and that policies we put in place should be continued and expanded.

• 1:23:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope you will see that despite the headlines and innuendo, I always put you before me, always. Alright, so while that is going on, okay, President Trump tweets something out on Truth Social, okay, Rob, I don't know if you have that or not. He tweets something on Truth Social that says the following. It says, self-proclaimed New York City, uh, Mamdani, who is running for mayor will prove to be one of the best things to ever happen to our great Republican Party, which I agree with. And I said this at Jubilee, I hope he wins, okay? In a way purely for the case study. He's going to have problems with Washington like no mayor in the history of our great, once great city, once great city.

• 1:24:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember that he needs money from me as president in order to fulfill all of his fake communist promises. He won't be getting any of it. So what's the point of voting for him? This ideology has failed always for thousands of years and will fail again, and that's guaranteed. President DJT. By the way, New York City, you know what you wanna may wanna may wanna look at for those guys that are supporting this guy? Look what's going on with the Portland, the highlights that we were watching earlier. Well, what's going on with the streets? He he doesn't think those things are any issue. He's not somebody that's sitting there saying, "Let's go get more cops." You've seen what he's supporting in the past before, Tom. I know you've got some polls here. You want to share with the rest of us, because I think the average person, Tom, is asking the following question. And I think you've got the answer for it. The average person's asking, "Okay.

• 1:24:47Patrick Bet-David?

  How big of an impact did this make for Mayor Adams dropping out? That the votes go to Cuomo? And what would happen if Sliva walks out? Okay, would the votes go to Cuomo? Does Cuomo have a chance to beat him, Mandami? What does Tom Ellsworth say about this?

• 1:25:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, what we say about it is there's a lot of polling going on out there. And there's a lot of polling that's being paid for by Mandami and by media organizations. You call up the media organizations, "Hey, ABC New York calling. We need a poll. Quinnipiac." Yep, we'll get right back to you. And a lot of times, the polls are flawed, or Quinnipiac wants to get business next week and this week. I'm not picking on them, but the way it kind of works is sometimes polls are produced that kind of follow narratives. And what's happening right now, people are saying, "What is the net effect on the election? Is this going to help?" And right now, Rasmussen, people that I trust and have contact with,

• 1:25:41Tom Ellsworth?

  they are looking at it and saying, "Look, you are looking at maybe you have breakage." Remember when RFK, this will people remember, so maybe they can identify this. Everybody said, "Well, if RFK drops out and he's off those ballots, do those votes go to Trump?" Remember that?

• 1:25:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:25:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And there was about five to seven for RFK, and it was usually four, two. Four votes for Trump, two votes would go, "No, I liked RFK, but I'm really more left."

• 1:26:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:26:12Tom Ellsworth?

  So that's the breakage here. Well, about 70% of this goes to Cuomo, but there is still about 30% that are upset with Cuomo, that have a long memory. And so when you shake it out, you have a two-horse race. And the Emerson College number here, not that they're the perfect pollster, but their analysis here is me and many other people that are really diving deep into numbers is correct. That it's about...

• 1:26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Mamdammy seven, when you take out. If Sliwa and Adams are out, Mamdammy still wins by seven. Still wins by seven, and it's the problem that we showed last time. Yeah. Where you went down all the groups. Remember you were going down last time on Friday? Yep. And you're asking, what are you thinking? What are you thinking? What are they thinking? Because there is a breakage for Mamdammy. And I think it's, if everybody's gone, it's seven. If, if Sliwa stays there, it's 14. Tom, who's WIC? Who's WIC there that has Cuomo wins by one?

• 1:27:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not John. Rob, go up a little bit. WIC, Harris X.

• 1:27:21Tom Ellsworth?

  John, we might need him though.

• 1:27:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are they? I, I have, I have no idea how the WIC people calculate this. Who is WIC though?

• 1:27:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I am not. Do you know them? Have you heard of them? No, I'm not familiar with them, to be honest with you. And then do you know who Harris X is? I know who Harris is. I know who American Pulse Research is. So who is Harris X? So Harris X. No relation to Kamala, right? No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:27:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What you do is you look at who they vote, that, who they poll. You look, Honan Group, likely voters. Harris, registered voters. So when polling goes out, they call people on there, are you a registered voter? Yes, I am. I'm registered here. And so then they know, okay, we have a poll of this many registered voters on this side. Other times it's likely voters, other times they're just dialing and they have a thousand people. You don't know, with that, why is that important? Because, let's say 44% are registered Democrats in a certain area. And 40% are registered Republicans, everything is independent. You want to have registered voters representing that mix. Otherwise, you're just playing into the bias. It's like asking everybody at the Green Bay Packers game

• 1:28:31Patrick Bet-David?

  on the morning of the first game of the season, who's going to win the Super Bowl? Forty-four percent of people believe Packers are gonna win the Super Bowl. Of course they do, cuz you have a bias. And so, that's what's going on with a lot of these.

• 1:28:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam. Well, Eric Adams drops out, so it's now officially a two-person race. And, you know, I don't wanna be the bearer of bad news. Cuomo, you're not gonna win, homie. I wish he had a chance, but the voter base in New York City ain't bout it. I mean, this is something that Eric Adams said last week. He said, "A substantial number of Gen Z voters will support the socialist NYC Mayor frontrear Zohar Mandaani, and a lot of them are foul-mouthed USA-hating radicals." The radicalization of the left part of America is real, gentlemen, and they are nasty and they are reminiscent of Russia a hundred-plus years ago when the Bolshevik Army took down the czar. Here's some of his quotes, right?

• 1:29:28Tom Ellsworth?

  "They're nasty, they're US-hating radicals. I've never witnessed a more mean and angry nasty electoral season. I go, I leave my church, or I'll leave lunch, people are shouting, 'F you, Adams, F you.' When you do it in front of children, it says to me that you have no regard for civility, and that's associated with living in a city this magnitude. Our children are being radicalized, our children are starting to hate this city. Not all, but many young people have been radicalized. The radicalization is real." This is just one little anecdote from Mayor Eric Adams. Don't you think the mayor, the current mayor of New York City, knows what he's talking about in this regard? But- Do you agree with him? Oh, I fully agree with him.

• 1:30:08Tom Ellsworth?

  You sat down in front of twenty, what I would call leftist radicals, in the Jubilee Debate. Yep. And everyone gave you immense credit. "I can't believe Pat had so much patience, he was so kind, he was so nice." How many of those twenty minds do you think you actually changed?

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• 1:31:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Short term or long term?

• 1:31:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Short term and long term.

• 1:31:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Short term, none.

• 1:31:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Long term, three.

• 1:31:28Tom Ellsworth?

  You think so?

• 1:31:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I think so.

• 1:31:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Walk me through why those three people will come to the realization that...

• 1:31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, because life's gonna happen to you. Life's gonna happen to you. And, and, and, life's gonna happen to you. And by the way, generally, the reason why I'm where I'm at in my life is because I believe people can change. I, even with you, you were very annoying. Uh, uh, you know, when I, when I...

• 1:31:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I appreciate that, man.

• 1:31:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but you were, though. You were obnoxious at one point. It was tough to be around. It's like, oh my God, if after you're another thing by this guy, about Russia and stuff like this, it was like overly. But you know what? Deep down inside, I said, I think something's gonna happen with this guy.

• 1:32:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Bingo.

• 1:32:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he's gonna figure something out. By the way, I was to others. You kidding me? Like, when I was younger, I'm like, what's this guy gonna do with his life? Where's this guy going? When's the guy gonna make a decision to do something with his life? And then I had to go through it, right? So I'm, I'm generally optimistic that some people will change because there's one thing you can never stop at them. You know what that is? Life's gonna happen, man.

• 1:32:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:32:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And when life happens, and you're by yourself, alone, on your... What are you gonna do when you... When I'm talking, life really happens.

• 1:32:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:32:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not talking about life happens. When life really happens, what was the reason why you chose to come and live in Addison? Because life really happened.

• 1:32:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:32:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Two events simultaneously, bam, wake up. And you're like, whoa, what was this all about, right?

• 1:32:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I think when life really happens, some people wake up and some people double down on the victimhood stuff. Uh, I do think a few of those guys will. But going back to the New York thing you're talking about with Adam saying that. I- i- i- if you lived in a city where everywhere you go, someone's like, fuck you, mother, you piece of shit. Yeah, I, I'd say, you know, you, you have to be thinking about, like, you, you either have to know that's the DNA of that city. Like, you know how they say Philadelphia fans? If you play for Philly, like, Rob, you know this, like, Philadelphia fans are.

• 1:33:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Tough crowd.

• 1:33:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Tough crowd, right? New York, same, Boston, same.

• 1:33:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Santa Claus.

• 1:33:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You can go around and say a lot of different things, but those three. LA fans are, believe it or not, LA fans are not LA. It's a very different kind of a fan base.

• 1:33:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they're fake.

• 1:33:34Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, it's not, you're not wrong, okay? Like, Tom is a true Dodger fan.

• 1:33:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Real Dodger fan.

• 1:33:40Patrick Bet-David?

  It's annoying to be around, but he's a true Dodger fan. You know, like.

• 1:33:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Please don't talk to my friend Tom like that guy.

• 1:33:46Patrick Bet-David?

  The Yankees needed Toronto to lose one game to have the bye. Tom's smile on his face, you should see the look on his face.

• 1:33:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm so happy.

• 1:33:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That Toronto won.

• 1:33:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at him, look at him, can't even hold it in, turning red.

• 1:33:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So, we, we have a, we have a thing. I don't want any texts about baseball from Tom.

• 1:34:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Ever.

• 1:34:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Until the season is over with. And I'm talking playoffs is over with. I don't want to hear it because I know deep down inside, he's like, well, that guy's this and you don't have colon, you don't have this and you know. So, I'm like, listen, let the season end and then let's talk baseball. We're planning on watching some baseball this weekend, but you know where we're watching it?

• 1:34:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, Tom.

• 1:34:22Patrick Bet-David?

  We go to Dodgers Yankees game in the late, Yankees.

• 1:34:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Forget it.

• 1:34:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Greatest fifth inning in the history of the Yankees, which, you know, it's case studies are going to be written about that fifth inning, right? Movies are gonna, there was movies made about series. There's been, there's been documentaries made about series, Yankees, you know, Boston. But they're gonna make a movie and you can make a 12-part documentary series about the fifth inning.

• 1:34:43Tom Ellsworth?

  That's it. And call it the fifth inning.

• 1:34:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And call it the fifth inning.

• 1:34:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Fifth.

• 1:34:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And it would do well. But anyways, yeah, so, uh, I, I can't, I can't imagine that happening in New York being that close.

• 1:34:53Tom Ellsworth?

  You're the hottest, most balanced team. Going into playoffs. Tom. And, and, and hats off to Aaron Judge.

• 1:34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a real picture.

• 1:35:00Tom Ellsworth?

  He did something, he did something.

• 1:35:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what that is? By the way, in the back, you know who's celebrating? The Dodgers just won. We're in a boot.

• 1:35:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, that's a Dodger game.

• 1:35:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Him and Sam, him and Sam are celebrating privately with another guy named Greg. The three are just like teamed up. Twenty-five Yankees guys and three Dodgers. We had to have escort the three Dodgers guys out and say, listen, you guys gotta get out of here.

• 1:35:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Little fun fact, Tom actually pooped in his pants right there. He actually let it go. So, that's not true. By the way, it's true? By the way. Stop it. Tom went uh-uh. Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge is your MVP. And he just did something that no one's done since Mickey Mantle. Fifty dingers and a batting tie.

• 1:35:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Hayden.

• 1:35:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And a batting tie.

• 1:35:39Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what that means?

• 1:35:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I know.

• 1:35:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what that means where it's like they over compliment to, to put superstitious be against you? That's Tom style.

• 1:35:47Tom Ellsworth?

  We know what you just did. Tom, you put a hex on him.

• 1:35:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me continue.

• 1:35:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Can we land this plane?

• 1:35:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't want to land it. I want to get away from it.

• 1:35:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I want to say, we were talking about Eric Adams. I want to talk about Mamboni really fast.

• 1:35:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:35:56Tom Ellsworth?

  So, well, well, no, because I wanted to get into the fact that, and I know that we're saying like, I hope, like, we hope New York is strapping in because it looks like it's going to happen. And you know what? You know, remember we talked about the pool of people that, look at who they have to choose from. Okay, all due respect, Sluwah, I don't, I really don't know who he is, the guy at the baray. But Eric Adams, look at all the stuff, the sanctuary city and everything that he did. And then Cuomo, I mean, look at the, just look at what he did with the old people in the nursing homes with, with COVID. And it's almost like it's your guys' fault that this Mamboni guy is gonna have this rise. And guess what? Two days ago, a story came out. He pledges to spend, are you ready, New Yorkers? A hundred million dollars for free lawyers for illegals.

• 1:36:40Tom Ellsworth?

  For illegals to have lawyers for their immigration, for their deportation. Okay, you're welcome. It's coming and it's, it's coming quick. And did you see the Dearborn, what, what? You saw this? A hundred million dollars of your taxpayer, New York money, bunch of Trump haters. Good. That is coming. You're gonna pay for illegals. More for the rest of us. Because you know what that's saying? I want illegals to stay here. I love illegals, not, not the actual citizens that crime is up and all this shit that's happening. Sorry for my language, but this is what you're gonna get. And you know what happens when that happens? The defund the police attitude and all that stuff? He's gonna get like what's happening in Dearborn. Did you see the police chief in Dearborn? Did you guys see this guy?

• 1:37:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Show me.

• 1:37:19Tom Ellsworth?

  If you don't mind.

• 1:37:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Police chief.

• 1:37:21Tom Ellsworth?

  The police, I mean, let me get his actual name.

• 1:37:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this the guy?

• 1:37:24Tom Ellsworth?

  His name is Police Chief Issa Shaheen. Uh, he's pro- standing in front of a Lebanese flag. He praises his Arab American police force, celebrating his jobs in the justice system. And just listen what he says with the humdulah. This isn't America. Just letting you guys know, go ahead. When I joined the department, Dearborn's Arab American population was nearly 50%. Yet less, yet less than 3% of our police. It's now a department that reflects and embraces the community it serves. With 45% of our Arab, our officers being Arab American. Hamdulah. Hamdulah. Hamdulah. Hamdulah, it's coming, guys. Guys, it's, and guess what, Mamdani? Strap in.

• 1:38:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And guess what?

• 1:38:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Strap in.

• 1:38:02Patrick Bet-David?

  We should do a podcast in Dearborn.

• 1:38:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's do it.

• 1:38:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you run, can you run a poll, Rob?

• 1:38:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you run a poll? No, no, you know what I want the poll to be? If we were to run a podcast in Dearborn, like Detroit, Dearborn, Michigan, would you fly out to come to the podcast? If we were to find a hotel, because I know it would be ruckus. 44% are Arab, are.

• 1:38:25Tom Ellsworth?

  And you know what's happening?

• 1:38:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you just run that poll, Rob?

• 1:38:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Please.

• 1:38:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Folks, I just want to know if we get 2,000 crazy, America-loving people, patriots in the same place, would, I want military guys to show up, vets, Air Force, Harley Davidson, bring them all, baby, right?

• 1:38:44Tom Ellsworth?

  And to do a podcast in Dearborn.

• 1:38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And we do a podcast in Dearborn. And we talk about how awesome America is, right?

• 1:38:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:38:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what, what?

• 1:38:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I think.

• 1:38:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually, I'm curious to know what that poll, I'm, I'm sure my wife is excited about this announcement.

• 1:38:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I mean, probably, we'd have, we'd have to get crazy security, but I just want you guys to know, because the citizens are complaining, they're having, mosques are doing their call to prayer at like 5 or, I don't know, 6 o'clock in the morning? And this is what's happening in Dearborn. New York, are you ready for this? Go ahead.

• 1:39:13Tom Ellsworth?

  This is in America. 5 o'clock, what time is this? Some lady complained that it was 5 o'clock in the morning and they're going to the city and it's. Yeah, they have a horn they blow and then there's. That happened. Like a canter that sings. Like, listen. Like.

• 1:39:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Dude, I'd be like, "What?" That's actually my alarm clock I wake up to every day, guys. I don't see the problem.

• 1:39:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you don't wake up. I'm gonna say something very weird. Rob, you get started. Very weird. I grew up in Iran. I would hear this all the time. And there are some guys that sing this song with the most incredible voice. It's beautiful. It's beautiful.

• 1:39:52Tom Ellsworth?

  5:00 AM?

• 1:39:53Patrick Bet-David?

  5:00 AM.

• 1:39:53Tom Ellsworth?

  In America?

• 1:39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  In America.

• 1:39:55Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 1:39:55Patrick Bet-David?

  In America. And I'm a guy, I'm a reasonable guy. It's just such a beautiful song if it's sang by the right people, but not 5:00 AM, not in America.

• 1:40:02Tom Ellsworth?

  No, sorry.

• 1:40:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Not appropriate.

• 1:40:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Sorry, guys.

• 1:40:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this, what's this, Rob? This is a video of, I believe it's a former Islamist. I got it. Yeah, go for it.

• 1:40:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I've seen this before. When I was an extremist Islamist fundamentalist, I would only vote left. Why is that? I saw them as very stupid. I would fear the conservatives because they come with principle. That's not someone they can brainwash. But the left, I know they have no values and no principles to begin with. I dare you to find one Islamic extremist that votes for Donald Trump. Never do it. They'd give their vote to the leftist who wants to run around in pride parades. Islamic extremists are against gays and homosexuals and transgenders,

• 1:40:52Tom Ellsworth?

  but they want the left to go and get busy with that. They want them, "Go, go, go speak about the climate. Go, go speak about abortion. Go, go kill yourselves. Go, go do that." Ilhan Omar, she's fighting for abortion rights and all the other, "My body, my choice." Yes, go do that, go do that. But would she have an abortion? Never. Never. Weird. Never. Weird. Would she kill a Muslim in her stomach? Never. What is the fundamentalist and jihadi agenda for America? The future of America has to be Muslim. Wow. Wow. Would you say, Adam, when they say it, believe them? When they tell you who they are, believe them. I'll tell you.

• 1:41:34Tom Ellsworth?

  There is a simple reality.

• 1:41:37Tom Ellsworth?

  In terms of a caliphate and a whole war of extermination, the liberal dies last. And the first will be the Jews, the second will be the Christians. In some cases, the Christians, they go after them first because they're protecting the Jews. That's the way it's been, the fundamentalist Christians that protect Jewish people. I'm not talking about Israel as a nation, I'm talking about Jewish people. And then you get around to, and now for you. Wait a minute, I was with you, man, I, you gave your freedom. I said, you had the right to free speech, you had the right to say what you wanted.

• 1:42:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And you said things about Christians and Jews, I maybe thought you were a little extreme or a little crazy, but said that. No, no, you don't understand. It says, you, it says, are you coming with me? No, no, I believe this, this, this, and no. Well, now you are the infidel. And the liberal needs to understand, the liberal dies last.

• 1:42:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody cares about that, you know why, Tom? It's, it's, it's kind of like why some people eat as bad as they do until they have a heart attack. You ever wondered like, I read a book by John Maxwell, one of his books, it could have been 15 invaluable loss of growth. And he talks about what happened after he had a heart attack, how bad he was eating and how quickly he changed his diet. Because he was thinking about his kids, grandkids, all that stuff, right? Most people don't think it's going to happen to them, most people don't think cancer is going to happen to them. Most people don't think any of that stuff's going to happen to them, like, no, it's other people, it's never me, it's never me, it's never me. And then it's you and it's like, oh shit, I never knew it was going to be me. Well, that's kind of how life works. So I don't think that ever does anything to them, even though you're right, they are going to be last.

• 1:43:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're still going to get them as well, they still won't, that's not going to move them. They won't sit there and be like, because of that, I'm going to change, nope.

• 1:43:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I add one thing?

• 1:43:32Patrick Bet-David?

  They have a massive blind spot, Tom, go ahead.

• 1:43:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Can you show that, that police chief again? This is not the angle you think I'm gonna take here. This gentleman right here, that was saying that, you know, when he started with the police force to only 3% of the police force in a 50% Muslim community, we're police, but now it's up to 45%. I'm actually happy he talked about this, because we need more reasonable Muslims who are policing their own people. Just like we need Christians policing their own people, Jews policing their own people, Republicans, Democrats. We need more people saying, "No, guys, if you love America, appreciate America, be a part of the American melting pot, we're here for it."

• 1:44:17Tom Ellsworth?

  We need those people, those police officers, to vet out the radicals. How else are we gonna find the radicals in the mosques? Or the radicals in the churches, the radicals in the temples? Not that there's many of those, but how else are we gonna find those people? And we need to bring them back into the fold. Creating enemies within America is very problematic. So I would encourage, I have Muslim friends, you saw the video I did in Detroit, right? At the airport, when they're all masked up. Why was I in Detroit? My grandma's from Detroit, my dad's from Detroit. I have friends in Detroit, I have Jewish friends in Detroit, I have Muslim friends in Detroit. Huge Chaldean community, which is basically like the Syrian community, huge black community. If you love America and you're here for America, we have open arms for you.

• 1:45:01Tom Ellsworth?

  But if you're here actively plotting against America, that's the problem that people have. So when you see these clerics being like, "We need to bring down America and burn down America", that's the people we need to investigate. This is uncalled for.

• 1:45:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:45:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Burning of the flags, exactly.

• 1:45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Can a Christian or a Jew run for office in a Muslim country?

• 1:45:21Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 1:45:22Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 1:45:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting. Weird. That question alone.

• 1:45:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Definitely not a Jew.

• 1:45:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That question alone.

• 1:45:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. There is a double standard, you're absolutely right.

• 1:45:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Can a gay person hold a pride parade in Gaza? Or is it just fashionable to say, you know, gays for Gaza, queers for Palestine? They can, they can hold it, but they'll meet their maker within. That's exactly, you can't get a permit, but if you want to self organize, you're gonna self exterminate.

• 1:45:50Tom Ellsworth?

  You bring up the point, Pat, that, that, that's exactly what it is, is that they can do whatever they want. Anyone can do whatever they want here in America, but in other countries, that's not how it works.

• 1:46:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And when they think, you know, it's really funny.

• 1:46:01Tom Ellsworth?

  There's the queers for Palestine, chickens for KFC.

• 1:46:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, isn't it crazy how some of our young people think that the rest of the world is really just like us? And I can just go over there and I can do this, but if they went over there, they would have drum solos played on their head.

• 1:46:14Tom Ellsworth?

  That's true. You, you, the, the, the one problem that you're wrong with Tom is that you said, isn't it interesting that they think? They don't think. They're just, it's raw emotion.

• 1:46:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Assume.

• 1:46:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:24Patrick Bet-David?

  They emotionally assume. I got a couple of other stories I want to go through. Let me go to this one here. Trump to declassify Melia Earhart's records. Okay. I know, Vinnie, you got a lot of, you want to talk about this one here, so.

• 1:46:37Patrick Bet-David?

  President Donald Trump announced Friday on Truth Social's ordinance administration to classify and release all government records regarding trailblazing. Aviator Melia Earhart, who mysteriously disappeared during a flight over Pacific Ocean, 1937, 1932. Mary Earhart became the first woman and the second person in history after Charles Lindbergh to fly solo and nonstop across the Atlantic Ocean. Just five years later, at the age of 39, she vanished without a trace during an attempt to circum, circumnavigate the globe, raising a range of possible explanations to conspiracy theories. I'm ordering my administration to declassify and release all the government records related to Melia Earhart, her final trip and to everything else about her. President Trump wrote on a post, uh, you know, what, is this the one, Rob?

• 1:47:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:47:22Patrick Bet-David?

  As well, in particular, her fatal flight, she was an aviation pioneer, the first one flight. She disappeared in South Ocean while trying to become the first one flight around the world. Uh, almost three quarters around the world and she suddenly without notice vanished, never to be seen again. Her disappearance almost 90 years ago has captivated millions. I'm ordering my administration to declassify it. So, Vinnie, why are you so interested in this?

• 1:47:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man, I, I was up all night. You know why? I was wondering. Who gives, I'm sorry, with all due respect, who gives a damn about like, are you serious? Family members do. Yeah, uh, yeah. Grandkids. Are they alive? Are any of them alive? The Earnharts? I don't need, the Earnharts? Oh my god. By the way, unless the files show that she was abducted by aliens or the government has her locked up in a bunker somewhere, at this point, who cares? Okay, this isn't 1937 trivia night, it's 2025, alright? The, how about this? The Epstein files, alright? The, the way that the entire case is still ongoing being handled, I know we have some stuff about Elon and Elon's comments and him being implicated.

• 1:48:23Tom Ellsworth?

  And then how about this? Charlie Kirk's assassination, that, that's where real accountability is, right now. I don't like, this is where, I don't like, who cares? There's so much happening right now, I think this is one of those shiny objects in the air, look over here and don't look over there. And we've seen this before, big announcement, lot of headlines, and then all this stuff that really impacts power and corruption, that, that's the stuff that gets buried, okay? Keep focused on what's happening right now, what affects people right now, not a mystery from 90 years ago, what? This is just funny that this is what we're talking about. What, isn't it true? Cause you're like, guys, who cares about the Amelia Earhart story? It's irrelevant. Hey, Vinny, wanna talk about today? So Amelia Earhart, why are we focusing on this? Well, that was the story. Why are we giving this attention?

• 1:49:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Why do we need more oxygen on this story? Adam. Nobody cares about Amelia Earhart. Here we go. Hey Vinny, let's talk about this. We're losing out to Adam. The president of the United States says he's been asked by many, many people. I wanna know who the hell went up to President Trump? It was probably some, like, 100-year-old woman. You fell for it. No, I did not fall for it. You fell for it. No, I didn't. We should have never talked about this story. Now, me and Vincent aren't gonna be friends today. I'm bringing attention. Cause we're fighting about the greatest female aviator of all time, Amelia Earhart, and your lack of care for Amelia. Guess what I'm doing? The Earhart family's discussing it. I think everybody wants to know what happened to her, but it's Not like a great government conspiracy. It's 90 years. She wasn't delivering the fuse to the atome.

• 1:49:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Weapon.

• 1:49:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Guess what?

• 1:49:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, when she went missing, where were you? Rob, I sent you another clip of the construction of Charlie Kirk's assassination site.

• 1:49:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I came out of the bathroom, I grabbed some lunch, I sat down and they were like.

• 1:50:02Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this? You don't have to play the music, but this is what I'm more important about. This is Amelia Earhart. They're doing construction where Charlie, where Charlie was assassinated. They're literally, play this, Rob, they're digging up everything, everything it's going to do in construction. What are the odds that we're one of the biggest assassinations in the history of the country of a political figure? And they're doing construction everywhere, on the top, underneath. You're basically saying, don't focus on Amelia Earhart, focus on this. This is what we, I mean, are we? So we're using the American. Because I'm gonna say something. Amelia Earhart, sorry, as a cudgel to bring up Charlie Kirk. Adam, Adam, this is. We could have just discussed Charlie Kirk. No, no, because everything is on purpose. The fact that Charlie was assassinated less than two weeks ago, and there is so many unanswered questions.

• 1:50:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And then the attitudes of other people, we weren't even, three days after he passed away, and people were like, this is what's happening with Turning Point, and this is like, who gives, sorry, who gives a damn about all that? Who shot Charlie Kirk? The official narrative, nobody's believing it, okay? They've been blowing smoke up, up our butts for how many days now? It's unbelievable, the unanswered questions. It's unbelievable, the Epstein stuff, and the president wants us to talk about Amelia Earhart? No, bro, I, I'm so. Vinny, you're done. Adam, you're missing the whole point. No, I got it. Why would the president bring it up? Yeah, for other people that are like, wow, here's my question, Adam, who in their right mind right now is like this? Woo, finally, Amelia. You know what he's saying?

• 1:51:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Emilio.

• 1:51:28Patrick Bet-David?

  He, he, by the way, we keep saying Earnhardt, that's the driver family.

• 1:51:32Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Earnhardt.

• 1:51:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, we have to get it right. She did not drive, she flew planes. That's true, Earnhardt. She's not a driver, she was a, she was a, she was a pilot. Adam, go ahead, what, what were you?

• 1:51:40Tom Ellsworth?

  What were you saying?

• 1:51:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you gonna say anything?

• 1:51:42Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you were about to say something.

• 1:51:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I was gonna say, I think what he's trying to say is this is a way to distract you from other issues that are going on. That's what he's trying to say. Is that what you're trying to say?

• 1:51:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm pointing out that he's trying to distract us. I think he makes an important point, because what are you gonna do? Solve this? In 1971, my great grandfather's reading glasses disappeared and he was three quarters away of the garage.

• 1:51:59Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 1:52:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Can someone help?

• 1:52:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Mr. Wikiki, the glasses, right? Because these all have to die with each other, Wikiki. Uh, which he was trying to sell for a couple hundred dollars, but, uh, no, I get what you're saying. To me.

• 1:52:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's talk about Bigfoot.

• 1:52:13Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, when it comes out to the, when it comes out to the Kirk shooting.

• 1:52:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Like, that's what I care about. Like, what do we?

• 1:52:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I have some very weird speculations.

• 1:52:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I have to talk to you. We're talking after. Can we talk after? What do you mean? Yeah. No, you're gonna hear it.

• 1:52:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Um.

• 1:52:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Mr. Wik Wiki. Yeah. What do you, what do you want to bring up to? No, we're not talking about it. I think Pat and I are quiet, very quietly on the same page. Look at that face. I can't wait to hear about this. Is this, is this Amelia Earhart story?

• 1:52:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Nah, no. We're gonna skip. We're gonna skip and see what happens next.

• 1:52:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh no, man. Stay tuned for the next episode, guys.

• 1:52:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Next. We're going to skip El Skipo. Uh, but it's very annoying, to say the least, that, uh, n- nothing's adding up with, uh, with Kirk's situation. Nothing. It's very annoying. Uh, next story. Netanyahu faces walkout at UN after Abbas receives applause. Okay, Rob, I think you have the clip. If you want to play this clip, it's on page, uh, 15. Okay, that's German. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:53:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, very good.

• 1:53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  The crowd there that was motivated. Order in the hall. And he will take the speech. We will listen to it here and we'll have analysis for you on the other side. They're walking out with Bibi hitting the stage.

• 1:53:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Please order in the hall.

• 1:53:42Patrick Bet-David?

  What countries are these? Are these all countries? People that represent countries? Please order in the hall. Everybody that's against Bibi, they're walking out. So these could be Muslim countries.

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• 1:54:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you can pause it right there. So Netanyahu declared in his address to the United Nations General Assembly Friday that the long-suffering Iran people will regain their freedom and make Iran great again, predicting that the Middle East will look dramatically different in the years ahead. Netanyahu tend to his remarks to Israel's recent battlefield victories over Iran's terror axes, arguing that those wins have opened unprecedented possibilities for peace across the region, including with former enemies once considered beyond reach. "Many of those who waged war on Israel today will be gone tomorrow. Brave peacemakers will take their place." He told world leaders, Israeli leaders, directly addressed Iran, stressing that its citizens would ultimately

• 1:55:44Patrick Bet-David?

  free themselves from Ayatollah's grip. "Nowhere will this be more true than in Iran. The long-suffering Iranian people will regain their freedom. They will make Iran great again." Netanyahu declared a phrase echoed a slogan familiar to many in the hall. Netanyahu framed Israel's strength to the guarantor of such a future, describing how October 7th and its aftermath underscored the Jewish state's resolve to fight back against enemies that once thought Jewish blood would be shed with impunity, could be shed with impunity. Adam?

• 1:56:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, look, I'm going to share some stats with you here. And... Look, you can critique what's going on in Israel, you can critique the war in Gaza, but I'll ask you a serious question, everybody out there. What are the countries with the worst human rights abuses in the world? What countries do you think are on that list? Have you seen this number, Vinny? Don't look at this, don't look at this, don't look at this. What countries would you say are the top three countries where it's like, "Human rights, the UN should condemn this country"? What, first three countries that come to mind? Wait, hold on, you're saying like- First three countries that come to right, human rights abuses, just-

• 1:56:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I would say somewhere in the Middle East, that's throwing people off a building. Okay, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, those come to mind? So- But you're gonna go- So, look at these numbers right here, of what's going on, on the UN condemnation. So, North Korea, this is when the UN General Assembly condemns a country. "You're doing this wrong, you're doing this wrong, you're doing this wrong." North Korea, 10. Afghanistan, 1. Venezuela, 0. Myanmar, 9. You go all the way down the list, Hamas, 0. Russia, 29, that's the second highest on the list. China, 0 condemnations. Cuba, 0. Syria, where they killed a million Syrians, 10. Iran, 10. Israel, 173. So what does this show you?

• 1:57:36Tom Ellsworth?

  This stat, this hypocrisy to the highest level. If you add up all the condemnations that happened at the UN, where Benjamin Netanyahu was speaking, the entire world, according to the UN, is not bad as Israel. So when you wanna see that Jews are like, "What are you talking about, Israelis, what are you talking about, this isn't fair, we're being condemned", every single country in the world, including North Korea, including China, including the countries with the worst human rights abuses, they don't equal the small country of Israel. So to say that there's a double standard, it would be-

• 1:58:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Help me understand what this means.

• 1:58:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I was just gonna say, what's the UNGNA?

• 1:58:14Patrick Bet-David?

  UNGA condemnation, Rob, what does this poll mean? What does this poll mean, Rob?

• 1:58:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not sure Adam sent me this, so this is Adam.

• 1:58:22Patrick Bet-David?

  What does this poll mean, Tom?

• 1:58:23Tom Ellsworth?

  UNGA, I believe- UN General Assembly. And I'm looking, I'm doing the same thing you were Pat. I want to look up what is a condemnation. While you're looking, while you're looking that up. By the UN General Assembly. If you ask me, is it disrespectful to, to, to walk out when a world leader is speaking? Yes.

• 1:58:41Patrick Bet-David?

  US condemnation is referred to a, a formal declaration by the United Nations that disapprove of specific actions or policies of a member state or entity. These declarations primarily through General Assembly resolutions and Security Council decisions signal a collective stance against violations of international law or peace through, though General Assembly resolutions are often non-binding recommendations. The UN has issued condemnations for a range of actions, including those related to international conflict, human rights abuses, terrorism, and illegal acquisition of territory. Go back to that list again, Rob, of who he has. US was at 11 and Pakistan was at zero.

• 1:59:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Saudi's at zero.

• 1:59:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Hamas at zero?

• 1:59:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, that doesn't, that doesn't make sense.

• 1:59:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, Hamas is at zero.

• 1:59:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Afghanistan is at one, Turkey's at zero, China's at zero. Oh.

• 1:59:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they're, they're all lovely people there. There's nothing wrong going on in China.

• 1:59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Iraq's at zero.

• 1:59:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Nothing wrong going on in Venezuela.

• 1:59:38Patrick Bet-David?

  US is more than Iran?

• 1:59:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:59:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, then this lost credibility, though.

• 1:59:42Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the UN, though. This is why Trump gets up on stage and says, you're supposed to be solving problems, but you're provoking problems and exacerbating problems. This is why Trump's speech at the UN was so important, which I called it the most important speech in our lifetime, respectfully.

• 1:59:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 1:59:57Tom Ellsworth?

  It's because he sees what's going on in the world and it doesn't make sense. So who are the people walking out when Benjamin Netanyahu is speaking? And you can be as critical as you want as Benjamin Netanyahu, because half of Israel, it doesn't support the right wing government in Israel. But you have African strongmen, you have literally Middle Eastern Arab Muslim terrorists, former Al Qaeda terrorists who are now running Syria, walking out. You have Latin American communists. So the people who are actually committing the human rights abuses are walking out as Benjamin Netanyahu is on stage. And again, I can say this again, you can be completely critical of Netanyahu and what

• 2:00:38Tom Ellsworth?

  they're doing in Gaza, but the, the hypocrisy that the entire world, if you add up the entire world condemnation does not equal what's going on in Israel. That's the problem, is that it's absolutely absurd on its face.

• 2:00:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Tell me, listen, maybe I'm completely wrong. No, I mean, if that's an accurate list, if that's a real list that they actually have from 2015 to 2025, it's ridiculous because yes, Israel, people are, a lot of us, me included, criticizing what they're doing, but that's 173 to 00, China, Qatar, Saudi, Cuba, no. And not our 11, I'm curious to what our 11 is.

• 2:01:16Patrick Bet-David?

  No, what I'm, have us at 11 and US at Iran at 10?

• 2:01:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, come on.

• 2:01:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it. Stop it. Tom, how do you process this?

• 2:01:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's two parts to the UN. There's UN Security Council and the UN General Assembly. The way I process it is on its face, this is ridiculous. And it just shows you how the UN, you know, self-managed, gets nowhere fast. And I look at this and I'm like, I'm gonna go look this up. I'm gonna look up all 173. That's what I'm gonna do. And I'm gonna go get smart about this. Because I know when it comes to UN Security Council, that's different. That is a small group of the most powerful countries. And frequently, you know, Russia won't vote this way, the US won't vote that way. And it's kind of a stalemate, Pat. You know what I mean?

• 2:02:07Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like, let's universal, but when the UN Security Council manages to vote in unison, usually you're gonna go see some action and stuff. But I, I think this is, this is ridiculous. Israel, 173. I want to see what those 173 things are.

• 2:02:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Let's get smarter, as Tom always says. So, yeah, to me, it's just weird when, when you put a number like this and it's causing others to react to it. Adam, you were gonna say.

• 2:02:36Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I just want to say, again, I'm not even, I'm just coming from a pure data standpoint. The way that you can tell how bad a regime is, or about a country is, okay, sure, you're gonna wage war. Okay, Putin is attacking Ukraine. Okay, Israel Hamas. Okay, you know, what was it? India, Pakistan, you're fighting with your neighbors. What was the other? It was Myanmar versus Cambodia. I'm sorry, it was Thailand.

• 2:03:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's called.

• 2:03:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Versus Cambodia. Point is, you're attacking other countries. The real test of a regime is how you treat your own people. Now, what you want to say about, you can say what you want about Benjamin Netanyahu is not they're killing Israelis. But in Iran? In North Korea, in Venezuela, you're suppressing your own people. I mean, we've seen what people say in Iran. Tell me what the Ayatollah and the IRGC does to their own people in Iran, Pat. I mean, you could spend 10 hours on this, but how do they treat their own people?

• 2:03:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I'd like to hear two more stories.

• 2:03:34Tom Ellsworth?

  They hang them? What do they do?

• 2:03:35Patrick Bet-David?

  It's horrible. They let the, the article was written last year about the number of hangings Iran did in one year. And, and you see the numbers. Lithium Americans, Lithium Americas shares surged 90% as Trump requests stake. This is a story by Forbes. Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one real quick. I'm not coming to anybody else on this one, but Tom, only you. Shares of Lithium Americas have rallied 97% on Wednesday after the Trump administration said it would seek a stake in Canadian mining firm as it negotiates a multi-billion dollar loan with the Energy Department, a deal involving the largest lithium source in the U.S. Lithium Americas stock soared 97% to around $6, nearly doubling the firm's market cap

• 2:04:19Patrick Bet-David?

  from 674 million to 1.32 billion dollars. Trump administration has requests on equity stake in Lithium Americas as it renegotiates a 2.2 billion dollar loan with the Energy Department for its Thacker Pass mine in Nevada, a White House official told Forbes. Rob, go ahead and play this clip.

• 2:04:37Speaker 02

  Shares of Lithium Americas more than doubled Wednesday morning after Reuters reported that the Trump administration is seeking up to a 10% stake in the miner. It's the latest sign of Washington's intervention into industries it considers critical to national security. Late Tuesday, Reuters reported the proposed stake was part of negotiations over a nearly $2.3 billion loan from the U.S. Department of Energy for the company's Thacker Pass lithium project. Located in Nevada, Thacker Pass is the largest planned lithium mine in the Western Hemisphere. Canada-based Lithium Americas said on Wednesday it was in discussions with the U.S. Energy Department and General Motors over the loan.

• 2:05:23Speaker 02

  GM has a 38% stake in Thacker Pass. The move underscores President Trump's increased ...use of direct government ownership to steer strategic sectors and curb reliance on China, which dominates refining of many critical minerals. Facker Pass is seen as a linchpin in building a domestic supply chain, part of Washington's longstanding drive to boost US production of lithium, a metal used to make batteries for electric vehicles and other electronics.

• 2:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's pause it right there, Tom. Tom, go for it.

• 2:05:57Tom Ellsworth?

  This is our president trying to keep a promise and trying to keep working on the critical minerals we need. Where did he start first? Ukraine. He said, Zelensky, let's make a deal for minerals in exchange for some relief aid, but we got to get this war stopped, right? We got to, we got to bring this to a stop. Remember that? Then he goes to Greenland, and then Don Jr., and Charlie Crick, by the way, all went on this big, you know, a group of people that went to Greenland to talk about Greenland, about minerals. Because he is trying to not just do it for today, he is actually trying to play a little of the long game. And this, what they're doing with, Biden gave a small government loan to this company.

• 2:06:40Tom Ellsworth?

  I shouldn't say small, it was real, but they need to refinance it. And so, Trump is saying, look, if you're going to get a $2.26 million loan from the government, you know, we got to take maybe a piece in the company, which I don't necessarily agree with, but he's trying to make it Pat like a collateral on the loan. Like, you can't just ask the taxpayers, you give you $2.6 billion with the collateral. However, I will say this, we need lithium for, for up to 800,000 EVs a year, and I don't want us to be screwed out of lithium. So I'll tell you what, I'm still working with Greenland on a deal, but now I'm going to help you guys with this loan, because we have to support ourselves and not be hogtied

• 2:07:25Tom Ellsworth?

  by China on precious metals. So this is Trump in the middle of everything else that's going on, Pat, still out there trying to do the very thing he was Doing on day one with EVs and this is before you know Elon Musk and Doge went away. Oh, he was only doing that to help Elon. No, he wasn't. General Motors actually also has a stake in this and this is Trump trying to help.

• 2:07:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it concern you that the government keeps buying out companies and investing to companies?

• 2:07:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I do not like the, I do not like that.

• 2:07:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't you like it?

• 2:07:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Because this is, in this case, this is collateral and what is the collateral? Dirt and a mine. Okay, we can take it back and then we can sell it to somebody else. But I don't like direct investment like what he's doing with Intel. I'd rather Microsoft, I mean, Apple almost died, Microsoft helped. I think you let the market determine just like that. It's different for Trump to say, you know what? I think we should have a chip program in the US. People are trying to build factories, you know, let's help them. Let's get them some, you know, maybe we help them get them land and stuff. But you guys need to work together. Invidia, how nice of you. You want to do this with Intel. I think that's great. I wish he would do that. I don't like the, and give me a piece of the deal in Intel to hold that.

• 2:08:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Because I think that's bad because I don't think he's going to do anything nefarious with it. But if the government owns these pieces, future administrations can. And I just do not think in a capitalist system, freedom to try, freedom to succeed, freedom to fail. And I don't think that should come with, unless you get a safety net with the US government because they own a piece. And then what if somebody in the future is out competing Intel? What if TECO grows up and builds a company that's out competing with Intel? And all of a sudden, there's legislation between two companies. Who's the government going to favor? TECO or the company they got 10% of? That's dangerous. We need an impartial government on that day to say,

• 2:09:27Tom Ellsworth?

  hey, it's a capitalist system and if you guys want to go to court, sue each other. That's what our courts are for, but I don't like it. That part I do not like. I do like Trump is trying to find ways to establish mineral independence and get these precious minerals that we need, these rare earth minerals, so that we don't get screwed by China. That part's a good thing.

• 2:09:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. Fantastic gang. Uh, we are at the end of the podcast. I got back to back to it's my Monday Mondays for me are the craziest days that I gotta go to get to all these meetings but we will do this again on Wednesday home team if you have any follow up questions anything that we discussed today feel free to connect anybody any one of the guys on the crew here and also aside from that if you haven't yet had a chance to order faith over fear and you still would like to I would go to vtmerch.com you will see it right on the cover of it to order your faith over fear merch God bless everybody take care bye bye

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