Episode 1,000: A Journey to Greatness (This Will INSPIRE You!)

“My definition of greatness is still evolving, but I have come to grasp a certain set of principles, habits, routines, thought-processes, and actions that lead to a more fulfilling life.”On today's special Episode 1,000, Lewis looks back on the past 7.5 years by highlighting 10 of his most impactful School of Greatness guests and the lessons they taught him, from facing your fears and mastering your mind to finding your purpose and visualizing your future. Lewis also details the personal journey of growth and success that started while he was hopeless and sleeping on his sister's couch. We hear from Brene Brown, Tony Robbins, David Goggins, and more. Robert Greene - How to Master Anything and Achieve GreatnessTony Robbins - The IconDavid Goggins - Master Your Mind and Defy the OddsBrene Brown - Create True Belonging and Heal the WorldChris Lee - How to Envision and Achieve Your Dreams Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  This is episode number 1,000 with my top School of Greatness moments ever.

• 0:09Lewis Howes?

  Hello everyone and welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes. I'm an author, lifestyle entrepreneur, former pro athlete and world record holder in football. My goal with the School of Greatness is to share with you stories from the most inspiring business minds, world-class athletes and influential celebrities on the planet to help you find out what makes great people great.

• 0:37Lewis Howes?

  Legendary Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu said, "The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step." And what you just heard was my first step, the intro to episode number one of the School of Greatness. That was January 24th, 2013. Now, seven and a half years later, this is episode 1,000. I still have the same opening music, but a much better microphone and a much better idea of how to conduct an interview. And when I look back at my early episodes, I sometimes cringe before reminding myself that no one starts out with greatness. No one begins with mastery. I didn't know what I was doing at the beginning, and I'm still working

• 1:21Lewis Howes?

  to improve every day. But the journey has been the reward. And this episode, number 1,000, is a testament to learning and growth, commitment and courage. But looking back, January of 2013 was quite a month for me. The initial podcast dropped just two days after President Obama recognized me as one of the top 100 entrepreneurs in America under 30, which still blows my mind today, considering it happened just a few years after I was broke, hopeless, and living on my sister's couch. If you're a longtime listener, you know the story. I had one dream in life, to be a professional athlete and zero backup plan. Well, just a

• 2:04Lewis Howes?

  year after college, that dream shattered, along with the bones in my wrist, when I took a vicious fall in an Arena Football League game in Huntsville, Alabama. Next came intensive surgery and six months in a full arm cast. And before I knew it, my career was over, which left me dreamless, aimless, and completely disheartened.

• 2:26Lewis Howes?

  Eventually, however, I pulled myself together because I had to. My sister's couch couldn't be the end of my road. And a long story short, I had no idea what I wanted to do or where I wanted to go. I merely knew that there were a lot of smart people out there and that I could use their advice. So I started reaching out to inspiring people, first on LinkedIn, then through a sports networking company I created, and after a couple of years of grinding, I had built a successful business. But I was still in the process of building a successful life. Money didn't buy me happiness or love, and I was seeking a lot more. And then somewhere along the line, it hit me.

• 3:08Lewis Howes?

  Although I was never quote unquote "good" at traditional school, I was always profoundly curious about mindset, health, entrepreneurship, relationships, lifestyle, and various components of happiness and success. I'd been constantly seeking out world-class individuals and picking their brains. Not only did their insights prove invaluable as I turned my life around, but those fascinating conversations also became what I lived for. So I felt like I would be doing a disservice to the world if I didn't share those conversations with all of you. Thus, the School of Greatness was born, and I had found my mission: impacting others to live greater, love deeper, and make a difference.

• 3:50Lewis Howes?

  I also wanted to elevate and amplify diverse voices that needed to be heard. This journey has taken me around the globe, and I've been fortunate to interview Olympic gold medalists and award-winning actors, billionaire entrepreneurs, and paradigm-shifting thinkers, psychologists, and scientists, and monks and missionaries, and so much more. And while my definition of greatness is still evolving, I have come to grasp a certain set of principles, habits, routines, thought processes, and actions that lead to a more fulfilling life. And in this two-part podcast, I'm reflecting on that journey to 1,000 episodes. I've learned something powerful from each one of my guests, and they've all helped me become a better version of myself.

• 4:33Lewis Howes?

  And it's nearly impossible to create a shortlist of meaningful moments But I had to try. So in these two episodes, I'll highlight 10 of my most impactful experiences on the School of Greatness. You'll hear from some of my favorite guests of all time, from Kobe Bryant to Brene Brown to Tony Robbins. And I'll also share the single most important thing I've discovered along the way, though you'll have to wait till the end for that. In the meantime, maybe you can come up with your own answer to the question I finish every podcast with. What's your definition of greatness? And let me know. I want to hear from you. Text me your definition at 614-350-3960.

• 5:15Lewis Howes?

  And to those of you who have been with us since the beginning, thank you, thank you, thank you. I know my journey has been your journey, and as I continue to grow, I see you growing as well. You've inspired and challenged me. You've provided me a kind ear when I needed it, and you've lit a fire in me whenever I was dragging. This milestone is yours as much as mine. And to those of you who are new, I'm incredibly grateful for this opportunity to share my story with you today, and I hope you join us for 1,000 episodes more. Author Robert Greene was the perfect person to start with, considering he's one of the world's foremost experts on greatness. He's written six

• 5:57Lewis Howes?

  international bestsellers, including The 48 Laws of Power, in which he's examined history's greatest leaders and thinkers to determine the universal keys to finding your purpose and then achieving the highest levels of success. Just a reminder, this audio you're about to hear, well, it isn't up to my standard today, and neither is my interviewing. I launched this podcast with nothing more than an iPhone, an aspiration, and a list of contacts who were very generous with their time. But Robert Greene gave me an ideal introduction to the concepts I wanted to explore on the School of Greatness, and he detailed theories of achieving mastery that I've been trying to prove correct ever since.

• 6:44Robert Greene?

  Well, you know, we have this myth that people who are highly successful or high achievers, that maybe there's something that they had good luck, or they have a large brain, or there's something genetically freakish about them. You know, it could be Steve Jobs, or 50 Cent, or Leonardo da Vinci, or anybody else. Or their parents were successful, or had money, or something like that, right? Or they just inherited a large brain, or something. But in fact, I firmly believe, I've been researching this for years, it's not that at all. It's a process that people go through. And it's a very rational process. It's a process that I can describe to you in great detail. It follows various steps that kind of go chronologically.

• 7:27Robert Greene?

  And once you know this process, it's really, really empowering. It makes you so much more conscious of what you're doing. You possess all of the tools that you need for success and achievement. It's right there. It's basically, you've inherited a brain that evolved over millions of years, and it has this latent power of mastery. I describe in the book how this power evolved over the course of millions of years. But it's there in you. You have the tools. It doesn't matter if you were born in poverty, if you never went to a good school, if you've had bad luck. The tool is there at any moment, even in your twenties, thirties, or forties.

• 8:10Robert Greene?

  It's all a question of learning how to use this tool, how to awaken this power. It's latent in you, and I'm going to show you, you know, how to basically exploit this. So a lot of people say, you know, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. But you're saying that it doesn't matter how old you are, and anything you can actually master. Is it any craft? Or is it any skill? Or is it, we're limited to certain things? So you can't master any craft if your heart isn't in it, because you're going to peter out after five or six years. You have to find something that's in your powerhouse, something that appeals to you. Once you work with that, yes, you can master anything. The attitude that you can't teach a dog new tricks, if you feel that way, then it's going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

• 8:55Robert Greene?

  You're going to feel like, "I can't master anything. I have no ability to learn skills." You're already three steps behind, so a lot of it is your attitude. Right, now when I read this quote here, "Everyone holds his fortune in his own hand, like a sculptor, the raw materials, he will fashion into a figure." You know, I think of some of the self-help type of books to talk about, you know, "Paint a picture in your mind of how you want your life to look." You can paint that picture, but then you have to take the steps, right? You have to do both. Right. So, if you just start going into an apprenticeship and learning things without a sense of direction, without really knowing who you are, if you listen to your parents, to your friends, and you end up in law school or business, but it doesn't suit you, then all of the six steps are meaningless.

• 9:40Robert Greene?

  Right. If you know what you want to be, if you know you're gonna be a rock star or a football player or something, but you have no patience and you can't go through this process and you're, you're, you're, you just want power and fame and attention right now, then you're, you're screwed as well. So, you need both. You need a sense of direction, purpose, and you need some discipline. I call it self-mastery. Awesome. So, what's, uh, how do you discover your calling then? How do you figure out what your life's task is? You know, some people, we were talking before this, this interview, but I was talking about some people have, you know, they want to find their purpose or they want to leave a legacy, but you talk about the life's task, which I think is very interesting, but how does someone discover this? Well, it's, it's like you, you already know it. It's in you, uh, already.

• 10:25Robert Greene?

  You knew when you were a child, you were interested in certain things. I know for me personally, I was interested in books and in history. I was just obsessed with history. Uh, I wanted to know how people lived a thousand years ago, and this is when I'm six, seven years old. But everybody out there who's listening to this, you have the same experience. It could have been sports, could have been something physical, it could have been music, airplanes, or anything, right? Yeah, uh, it's not, it's not that you knew exactly who you were gonna be or the career path, you know? But you, you were drawn to certain actions that fit with you. When you did them, you did them well, it felt right. This is when you're a kid. Now, what happens in life is you, you grow distant from it.

• 11:07Robert Greene?

  I call it a sort of a voice inside of you that drew you to these things, that drew me to history and writing. And that voice starts to get weaker as you get older, as you listen to your parents and they tell you, "You gotta make money," and you listen to your friends and they tell you, "This is cool and that's not cool." And by the time you enter college and then you leave college and you're into the work world, you don't really know who you are. You've lost touch with that. And it's okay to lose touch with that throughout the course of your life. Everybody does. I have myself. But that voice needs to be there so that at some point you can come back to it and you can reconnect with who you are and think deeply and say, this is what I was meant to be doing. And it's not a question of suddenly saying, I'm gonna quit my job

• 11:51Robert Greene?

  and start playing the guitar or anything like that. It's not where you, where everything has to be fun and pleasurable in life. It's more that you're crafting a career path that suits to some degree your interests and that eventually 10, 20 years down the line is gonna lead to you being your own boss, being, you know, able to sort of do whatever you wanna do and bringing out your uniqueness. And so it starts with a bit of sort of reassessing who you are, thinking deeply about it and getting excited about what you're, what you're pursuing. The main thing that we know about the brain is you don't learn deeply enough

• 12:33Robert Greene?

  if you're not engaged in what you're learning. So you could spend 10 years learning law, but if it doesn't excite you, the depth of what you're learning, it just doesn't stick. Right. But if you're excited, you can learn in two years what would take other people 10 years. So it's just, it's the key to everything. If you don't follow the advice in this chapter, you're gonna burn out and you're gonna find yourself when you're in your 40s, replaced by someone who's younger and cheaper. And I'll say one more thing. The key to the apprenticeship in life in the 21st century is skills, skills, skills and skills. You wanna be accumulating skills, not just one skill, but three, four, five, six or seven. You have to take advantage

• 13:16Robert Greene?

  of the information age, the incredible access to information that you have. In your 20s, you wanna take on, it could be just one job, but it can be three or four jobs. And the more skills you acquire, later in life, you're gonna combine them into some new business that you start or some, something like my weird books or whatever. You're gonna find a way that really reflects who you are. But if you don't develop these skills in this really competitive, hyper-competitive world, forget it.

• 13:49Lewis Howes?

  That conversation with Robert Greene set the table for everything here. And I keep coming back to the importance of identifying your purpose and then maximizing your capabilities. As for the School of Greatness, even though I always knew the podcast's purpose, it's been a continuous state of evolution as I try to make the most impact. I did, however, have three big dream guests from the very beginning that I just needed to interview. I'm still waiting on Will Smith and The Rock, but in episode 109, roughly one and a half years into the podcast, I scored an exclusive sit down with the one and only Tony Robbins. Tony had long been an inspiration for me.

• 14:34Lewis Howes?

  He came from nothing, growing up in a broken home and worked as a teenage janitor. And he built an unrivaled business and brand through hard work and hustle, vision and charisma. Now I'm honored to call Tony a friend. And what's more inspiring than anything is how much he's always given back.

• 14:57Tony Robbins?

  I had a moment like my whole life changed. It was kind of twofold. I had, I was, I was really young, like yourself back then, right? Working my tail off, trying to build a business. And you have big goals, you know, you don't always succeed to start with. It can just come together, right? You know, it was hard. And I remember I was so frustrated because I was working 18 hour days and nothing was working and I was broke and I felt embarrassed, you know, I should be doing better than this. And so I was driving home from Orange County on the 57 freeway in San Gabriel Valley, out near a place in Pomona, California. It probably doesn't matter to anybody else, but I can remember it so vividly because it was almost midnight. And I was at this breaking point. And then I was like, why am I not, you know, doing better? And then I just pulled over the road and I used to keep these journals, I still have them, written journals. And I wrote in big lines, you know, the secret to living is giving. And I started to cry.

• 15:41Tony Robbins?

  And I realized I am so focused on what am I not getting? I'm not focusing on what I'm giving. So for six months, man, it turned me around. But then, you know, something else that get in your body, it was in my head, it was in my heart, but it had to get in there to stay. And I started going through some really tough times and I lost everything financially. And I was mad at everybody because like I'd loaned a friend a thousand bucks and you know, I had them doing well. He didn't even return my phone call. Oh. And what changed me was, I, I was down to, I don't know, twenty-two, twenty-three bucks, something like that, I don't know, it was twenty-four dollars. Enough that I knew that I didn't have money for food for the next week, clearly. And I didn't have any prospects. And I was living in Venice in this four hundred square foot bachelor apartment, feeling sorry for myself. And I thought, you know what, I gotta eat. So I'm not gonna drive my car, cause I'm not gonna spend the gas, I'm not gonna pay for parking. Sure.

• 16:25Tony Robbins?

  I'm gonna go to all-you-can-eat place and load up for the winter, right, so I could get more, like, one meal a day. Right. And so, uh, in, there's a place called Marina Del Rey, not far from Venice. And it's beautiful community, and it's right on the water. And there's a place called El Torito, it's still there, it's a little, uh, uh, restaurant, it had taco bar and all that kinda stuff. So I walked there for the three miles, and I go, I gotta, I'm gonna go and load up. And I was all about myself and getting through this. And this little, well, this woman walked the door, I had a very attractive lady, that's probably why I caught my attention. And I'm waiting to see who her boyfriend is, and there's nobody up there, there's a little guy down here. It was obviously her son. And he's wearing this three-piece suit, you know, a little vast. He opens the door for her, he pulls out the chair for her, and it was just, he stared into his mother's eyes, I mean, it was just pierced into her eyes.

• 17:09Tony Robbins?

  I don't, I don't know what it was, but something about him was just so moving. He was such a sweet, caring, loving young man to his mother that moved me. So I, I paid for my meal. I always left seventy and eighteen bucks, put it back in my pocket, what was left. Walked up to this young man, I knew this myself, and I said, hi, I don't remember his name, I think his name was Ronnie, and I said, Ronnie, I said, uh, I said, you're really, I said, you're a class act, I saw how you opened the door for your lady, I saw you held out the chair for your lady, he goes, she's my mom. I said, that's even more classy. Right. And he's, and I said, so cool that you're taking her out to lunch like this. And he goes, well, I'm not really taking her to lunch, cause I'm just eleven, and I don't, I don't have a job, you know. Right. I said, yes, you are. And I had no plan, I literally just reached in my pocket, took all the money I had, changed dollar bills, and threw it right there in front of him. You look at me like this, he goes, I can't take that.

• 17:54Tony Robbins?

  I said, sure you can. He said, well, why? I said, cause I'm bigger than you are. And he got this big grin on his face, his eyes got this big, and I didn't, I just shook his hand, I didn't even look at this wa, his mom, and, and I just walked out the door, but, the reason I tell you the story is, I had no car, I had no money. I did not, I was euphoric. I was like flying home. I mean, it's like, you know, I probably look like an idiot, probably skipping or something. I, and what I felt was, I should have been like, what the hell did you just do? I have no meal. What are we gonna eat? I went home that night, I laid out a plan. And the plan was gonna take me, you know, ten days, two weeks. So I thought, well, people fast for a week. I could fast for a week, you know, that type of thing. And I was this great mindset about it. And I woke up the next morning, and I get the old regular snail mail shows up. And it's this guy called a zillion times. He wouldn't return my call. I opened it up, there's a check,

• 18:39Tony Robbins?

  thousand bucks plus interest and an apology. So I'm sitting there, and I, and I started to cry, honestly. And I was just like, why did this happen, you know? And I don't know if it's true, but I decided that day this happened because I did the right thing. Cause I didn't have a plan. It wasn't a strategy. I just thought this little soul beside me, I knew it was right, and I did it. And I didn't do it because I thought I could or I couldn't. I didn't even think about it. And that's the day I became a wealthy man. Cause I didn't have any money, but scarcity left my body. And I have plenty of ups and downs since that time and various times in my life. But I never went back to that, oh my god, you know, how's it gonna happen? It's like breathing. Do you stop and say, God, is there gonna be any air before you take a breath? You know it's gonna be there. You don't, you don't run your life by that aspect. And so that to me is what it's about, is showing people,

• 19:24Tony Robbins?

  if you won't give a dime out of a dollar, don't bullshit yourself. You'll never give a million out of ten million, or ten million out of a hundred million. It's just not gonna happen. But if you can do that now, you, you don't ever get beyond scarcity. You start behind it. You, you, you make a decision to get beyond it.

• 19:37Lewis Howes?

  So how does someone, you know, when they're living in scarcity, they're in fear?

• 19:41Tony Robbins?

  Yeah.

• 19:41Lewis Howes?

  And it's like this emotional feeling. It's in your body, like you say, when you're like, I can't even pay for my meal. How am I gonna like start giving? What are some things that people can do to start overcoming that mindset, or start strengthening it, or shifting it?

• 19:54Tony Robbins?

  I'll tell you a couple of things. I'll tell you what I did when I was first on my own. You know, I got, my dad, my mom kicked my dad out when I was seventeen. She's a very powerful one, like, my father, so they all learned how to get the boot. She thought it was his side, so she kicked me out next. I was seventeen. She chased me out with a knife. She wouldn't have hurt me, but I wasn't going back in the room. And, um, I decided to figure out what to do. And I didn't play stay and you know I'm staying in somebody's laundry room for a while. And I started reading and feeding my mind and then I developed this whole system and the system was really simple. And I tell people now is I say number one, every single day, you gotta feed and strengthen your mind. Until you do that, you're always gonna be in fear. Because fear is automatic. The human brain is designed for survival. It's not designed for success. Your brain is not designed to make you happy. That's your job.

• 20:36Tony Robbins?

  And the only way you're gonna do it is if you feed your mind, because otherwise weeds grow automatically. My coach, mentor Jim Rohn used to tell me, so Tony, every day you gotta stand guard at the door of your mind. You gotta watch what's going in, because if you're not careful, stuff will go in. And he said, all the times it's somebody who cares about you. He said, you know, if you're Your family. Yeah, if your worst enemy puts sugar in your coffee, he said, what happens? I said, you got sweet coffee. He goes, what if your best friend by accident, or your family, don't mean to, they drop one drop of strychnine in your coffee? You're dead. He said, so life's sugar and strychnine and watch a coffee. Right, right. So every day I decided, I'm old enough, honestly, there was no internet those days. I'm pretty ancient. I used to go to the library, because there's no place to go. And I would read biographies, I'd read people's lives, and it'd make me go, wait a second. As bad as I think it is, the greatest people in the world had it worse. Sure.

• 21:21Tony Robbins?

  So there's something here. So you feed your mind. And Jim Rohn used to say to me, skip a meal, but don't skip reading. He said, read thirty minutes a day, I don't give a damn what it is. And today, I don't mean internet crap. I mean, read something, a biography, read something that's a strategy, read something that's gonna change your life. And the second thing I tell people is feeding your mind's great, but you gotta also strengthen your body. And you do that as an athlete naturally. I learned to do that, because fear is physical. Right, you know where you feel it. And if you go work out, if you go lift, if you go run, even if you're out of shape, you just go for an intense walk, that experience alone changes your life. Every day in my life, the first thing I do before I do my priming, if I'm at one of my homes, I jump in some hot water for fun and I jump in freezing water. And I have, you know, a river, you know, in one of my homes in Sun Valley, and I've got cold plunges everywhere else. So I go in fifty-seven degree water, boom.

• 22:06Tony Robbins?

  And what it does is like, it's teaching my brain, I do, I tell my brain what to do, and it does it. It doesn't feel like it, it doesn't wanna do it, and every cell in your body's alive, right? So it doesn't have to be like two hours with the something. It can be something you do for thirty seconds, but it's training your body to be strong, because a strong body gets a strong mind and vice versa.

• 22:26Lewis Howes?

  You heard Tony there talking about a growth mindset. He has always hammered that home. Even when you're having more success than you ever dreamed, dream bigger. My first Tony Robbins interview also marked a shift in the School of Greatness. I had started with nothing but my phone, obsessing over content, but not over production quality. And at this point, I had already upgraded to better audio gear, but booking Tony Robbins made me realize I needed to level up the product again. I made sure to get a camera crew for that sit-down, and then I invested in equipment, in producers, and now I have a state-of-the-art studio, and the School of Greatness produces as much video as it does audio.

• 23:09Lewis Howes?

  And Tony also mentioned strengthening your body. And as an athlete, I've always tried to push myself. You've heard the cliches, "No pain, no gain, no pressure, no diamonds." But when I was young, I sort of missed the point of pushing myself. I used to think it was all about winning, that an athlete's mindset was to achieve results no matter what the cost, that it was all about the destination, the end goal, not the journey. And I would get so mad whenever I lost, even if it was out of my own control. Listen, there's nothing wrong with winning. Winning's good. Winning's often an important goal, but winning can't be the only thing.

• 23:50Lewis Howes?

  And winning is a byproduct of successful mindsets, actions, routines, and habits. It's not an end in itself. So where do you start? There is no growth, no greatness, without mastering your mind. You need mental toughness if you're going to be successful. And if there's one person who taught me the value of embracing discomfort to reach your potential, it's David Goggins. David is a retired Navy SEAL, and he holds the distinction of being the only member of the US Armed Forces to have completed SEAL training, the US Army Ranger School, and Air Force Tactical Air Controller training.

• 24:30Lewis Howes?

  All of this after overcoming an abusive father, extreme poverty, racism, obesity, and a learning disability. Now he's one of the world's best endurance athletes. And although he has finished more than 60 ultra marathons, triathlons, and ultra triathlons, David says that he's not built any differently from me or you. He's just conditioned himself to ignore the limits that his mind wants to place on his body.

• 25:01David Goggins?

  You gotta start diving into those things that you are afraid of. You don't gain confidence by going to the spot that makes you feel good. It could be a false reality. And the second life gives you that challenge, all you want to do is go back to what gave you confidence, is that happy spot. No, I just stutter severely bad. So right now, I don't know how many people are gonna watch this. You know what gives me confidence? Is knowing I no longer care if I sit here and start stuttering to you.

• 25:29Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 25:30David Goggins?

  That's what gives me confidence, is facing these things, overcoming them. And maybe not overcoming them every day, but facing them. And face them, and face them, pretty soon like this, you know what, man? This is where it's at. It's not in that comfort zone. It's in the discomfort zone is where my confidence is getting built.

• 25:47Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:48David Goggins?

  That's where it's getting built. They want an easier answer.

• 25:51Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 25:52David Goggins?

  There has to be an easier way. It's not. I'm sorry, I searched for it my entire life.

• 25:58Lewis Howes?

  You cheated, you lied.

• 25:59David Goggins?

  I lied, I did everything, and I still felt empty. I coach a lot of people nowadays, billionaires, who call me on the phone and say, "Man, I'm still missing something." It's because they did what they were good at. And they have this beautiful family, two, three houses, cars, everything. Has everything to work, on the outside looking in, like, my God, man, how can you be unhappy? I walk around with the backpack with all my stuff in it, with no car.

• 26:29Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 26:29David Goggins?

  And I walk around, happiest person in the world, have nothing, happy as hell. It's because I found out the whole key to life. It's not in all that. You have to face yourself. So many people live to be 100 years old, and they die miserable, having everything, because they never examined, I call it my live autopsy. You never examine this.

• 26:56David Goggins?

  Happiness, peace, enlightenment, it's all up here, man. It's all up here. If I start talking like this, people go, man, you know, I don't know. It's the truth, man.

• 27:07Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, it is true.

• 27:08David Goggins?

  It's all up here. You just got to be willing to go and face it. And that's the hard part.

• 27:13Lewis Howes?

  What's your biggest insecurity today?

• 27:16David Goggins?

  I'm not to be arrogant, I don't have one.

• 27:19Lewis Howes?

  What was the last one you had and when was that?

• 27:22David Goggins?

  The last one I had was probably still me. Me, we used to live in a seven dollar a month place when I was growing up.

• 27:30Lewis Howes?

  Is this in Buffalo or is this?

• 27:31David Goggins?

  This is in Indiana.

• 27:32Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 27:32David Goggins?

  So like we had a lot of money in Buffalo. And when my mom left, my dad, we went to nothing for a period of time before she got on her feet.

• 27:40Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 27:41David Goggins?

  And that seven dollar a month place used to be, it was who I was. I was no one. I was in the sewer. My mom went there. I had nothing. And you always feel like you have nothing. I had achieved so much. I was a Navy SEAL. I've gone through Ranger School. I've gone through Delta Force Selection Training. I I done so much. I run 200 miles, pull-up records, everything. Learned to read and write, became pretty intelligent.

• 28:11David Goggins?

  And I still was like, man, what is wrong with me? It wasn't until I got real sick, and I was about 38 years old. I'm 43 now. And my life got real quiet. I went from running 205 miles in 39 hours to I couldn't get out of bed. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me, but once again, it was the best thing that ever happened to me.

• 28:34Lewis Howes?

  Why is that?

• 28:35David Goggins?

  In that moment where my whole life changed, I went from a guy who worked out every day, trained every day, to a guy who couldn't get out of bed. My life was taken from me. The one thing that kept me going was my training.

• 28:48Lewis Howes?

  Now, you didn't have that.

• 28:49David Goggins?

  I didn't have anything.

• 28:50Lewis Howes?

  Now, you just had to sit alone.

• 28:51David Goggins?

  Alone.

• 28:51Lewis Howes?

  And not train.

• 28:52David Goggins?

  And that's what changed me. And that's when I realized. I hadn't thought, hadn't taken time to think about what I'd done in my life.

• 29:02Lewis Howes?

  You hadn't reflected yet.

• 29:03David Goggins?

  I hadn't reflected. I'd done all these things, but there was no finish line. I still believe that, but you must have time to reflect.

• 29:09Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 29:10David Goggins?

  I was just going. I finished a race of life and I wouldn't even receive my medal. I'd go on.

• 29:15Lewis Howes?

  You're like on to the next.

• 29:16David Goggins?

  I get in the car and I go.

• 29:18Lewis Howes?

  You wouldn't even take the medal?

• 29:19David Goggins?

  Gone. Don't care about it.

• 29:20Lewis Howes?

  Like I'm not gonna waste an hour sitting around for this ceremony?

• 29:22David Goggins?

  Most people sit around and that's what they like. They need the ceremony if I accomplished something.

• 29:27Lewis Howes?

  The validation.

• 29:28David Goggins?

  I haven't done anything. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

• 29:31Lewis Howes?

  Just getting started.

• 29:31David Goggins?

  I was getting started. That's right. When I started figuring out life, that I was leaving so much in the tank. I call it my 40% rule.

• 29:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 29:39David Goggins?

  I was leaving so much in the tank. Once I realized, my God, man, I was this dumb, fat kid being bullied and now I'm a 180-pound person who lost 106 pounds in less than three months. Learned to read, learned to do this, learned to do that. I was like, I need more. I was fueling my mind with everything. And I never took time to say, my God, you came from this hell and you're here. So those insecurities, and this is how I explain it the best way. SEAL training became pretty hard and a lot of guys weren't getting through it. So they designed a SEAL pep prep program.

• 30:15Lewis Howes?

  Like a boot camp for the boot camp?

• 30:16David Goggins?

  That's right.

• 30:17Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 30:17David Goggins?

  And it was two months. In my last two years before I retired from the military, they sent me there to train these kids.

• 30:23Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 30:24David Goggins?

  To get ready for BUDs.

• 30:25Lewis Howes?

  18, 19, 20 years.

• 30:26David Goggins?

  Young kids. So when they get to Navy SEAL training, man, they were physical studs. They were running, swimming. I mean, they were, they were hybrids.

• 30:35Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 30:36David Goggins?

  But they get to BUDs and the same amount of people would quit.

• 30:40Lewis Howes?

  Why is that?

• 30:41David Goggins?

  This is why.

• 30:44David Goggins?

  We were training bigger, stronger, faster quitters.

• 30:48Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 30:49David Goggins?

  It's not about.

• 30:50Lewis Howes?

  Not the mind.

• 30:51David Goggins?

  That's right. We weren't diving into the sewer. Everybody's got a story.

• 30:57David Goggins?

  We don't share it on social media. We share our nice life on social media. We have, we all have a dungeon. I'm just willing to talk about mine. Yeah. Most of us aren't willing to talk about it. I'm gonna talk about my dungeon. I wasn't getting into the dungeon of these guys' minds. I wasn't building that so-called mental toughness. Mental toughness isn't something that you sample. It's something that you live in every day. So when something hard would happen to these kids, like in Hell Week, it would draw on something that made them very insecure. And they look for comfort. Whenever hardness comes, and you don't know what it is. It may be different for you than it is for me. But you go back to your insecurities.

• 31:42David Goggins?

  And then when you go back to insecurities, you then look for comfort within those insecurities. And we all look for that cookie that your mom used to give you Right. when you were sad. Yeah. when you were sick. We look for our wife or our husband. We look for comfort.

• 31:58David Goggins?

  It's in those moments, you must retrain your mind to think differently in hell. I wasn't training them to do that. Why weren't you training? I wasn't training myself to that, because at that time, I was doing what I was told. These guys need to meet a standard. Physical standard. A physical standard. The physical standard is not what they need to meet. It's a mental standard you must meet in life. So going back to when I was sick, I was hitting the physical standards. I wasn't meeting the mental standard. The mental standard is you must know how far you've come. Wow. I had come eight thousand miles from where I started.

• 32:42David Goggins?

  But if you never know that, you're still in the seven dollar a month place. When I was sick, I was able to slow it down and reflect back on my entire life. And in that bed, and I thought I was dying, because that story is long, that that sick portion of my life is long. I didn't care if I died or lived. Because I was, for the first time in my life, happy. Wow. And at peace. I reflected back on where I started. You said, wow, I have come a long way. That's right. And no one saved me. It wasn't like someone came down here and guided me through life. When you figure this out on your own, the amount of pride and dignity and self-respect you have.

• 33:25David Goggins?

  That's why I walk around the streets with a backpack and just like, I don't need anything else.

• 33:32Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 33:32David Goggins?

  You figure it out by going inside yourself, by callusing over the victim's mentality. Never pick the easy road.

• 33:43Lewis Howes?

  Hmm.

• 33:44David Goggins?

  Never, never. And it always goes back to kind of that hero mentality. Never pick the easy road ever in your life. That is the one road that is doom. It is doom. If you want something like six-minute abs, all these different things, people want it so fast. You may achieve what you wanted,

• 34:09David Goggins?

  but you want the permanent fix. The permanent fix comes from the hard road. The hard road gives you permanent results. The easy road gives you the quick fix. You will go back to where you started on the easy route. That hard route is so permanent that it ends up callusing you everywhere, everywhere.

• 34:33Lewis Howes?

  You keep a six-pack forever.

• 34:35David Goggins?

  You keep it. Because you know the work that goes into it.

• 34:38Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 34:40Lewis Howes?

  Man, David Goggins just blew my mind. Nowadays, whenever I'm struggling to accomplish goals or don't feel like working hard, I think about his words and his story. But mastering your mind and pushing your body and creating your own reality, that's only part of the journey towards greatness. A fulfilling life is also largely dependent on the quality of your relationships. Being around a partner, friends, family, colleagues that love you, accept you, and want to see you grow. Enter Brené Brown. There are few people on earth who understand the complexity of the human condition better than the renowned researcher, professor, author, speaker, and host.

• 35:25Lewis Howes?

  Brené studies shame, vulnerability, belonging, all crucial elements of authentic relationships. Most of us don't want to think about those things. Forget opening up about them in an authentic way. Personally, a large part of my story is allowing myself to be vulnerable, to admit my shame, to search for true belonging. Many of you know that this was not easy for me because I've suffered serious trauma in my past, and we'll get to that in part two of this podcast. For now, though, I want to revisit Brené's incredibly wise words.

• 36:02Speaker 05

  I don't know that I've interviewed anyone, even spiritual leaders, who have the belonging thing completely nailed because I don't think it is what we think it is. You know, I don't think that it's having a big posse of friends, or having a crew, or rolling with a bunch of people. I think I'm still trying to figure it out because I still feel lonely and alone and on the outside of things on a really regular basis.

• 36:28Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 36:29Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:30Lewis Howes?

  I mean, you're going on a book tour with thousands of people, a 15-city tour.

• 36:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 36:34Lewis Howes?

  Millions of fans around the world, and you still feel alone.

• 36:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, I can feel really lonely.

• 36:38Lewis Howes?

  Why?

• 36:38Speaker 05

  And it's really hard because, you know, you talk about that book tour. I'm severely introverted.

• 36:43Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 36:43Speaker 05

  Super private, and so I love that connection between me and an audience, but it can also be hard on me. And also, I'm talking about things that no one... It's weird to me that people sign up to talk about them, but they're hard topics sometimes, and we laugh, and we have fun, and we'll sing. But I think what I've learned in doing the research on belonging is that belonging is being a part of something bigger than yourself, but it's also the courage to stand alone and to belong to yourself above all else. And so I think I spend a lot of time belonging to myself, and sometimes that makes other

• 37:27Speaker 05

  people uncomfortable. And so I think that's hard. I think I do feel... I'm always looking for... I don't know about you, but I'm always looking for the roadmap. Like, I want to find the...

• 37:38Speaker 05

  Researcher, storyteller, Christian, lover of all people, fighter of the resistance. I want to find the blueprint of who's ahead of me believing what I believe in and doing it really well.

• 37:52Speaker 05

  But there's not really a blueprint sometimes.

• 37:54Lewis Howes?

  We're all trying to figure it out. We're all trying to figure it out.

• 37:57Speaker 05

  I don't get to copy anybody and so it's hard.

• 38:02Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 38:03Speaker 05

  It's still hard. But here's a thing that has changed everything for me. I belong to me.

• 38:10Speaker 05

  So even when I feel alone and I wonder like who's my crew and who are my people,

• 38:17Speaker 05

  I belong to me for sure, for the first time in my life maybe.

• 38:21Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, and I think we lose ourselves sometimes by trying to belong in groups that we don't fit in.

• 38:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:26Lewis Howes?

  You know, I remember being in, you know, the youngest on these sports teams growing up. I was playing on the junior varsity as a freshman or the varsity or whatever. So I was the youngest and I remember just wanting to fit in. I feel like they liked me, like I mattered, like I was the cool kid or whatever. And when they would do things that I didn't really agree with or they would bully other kids or make fun of people, it's like I didn't want to not say anything, you know, I didn't want to stand against them because I wanted to belong.

• 38:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:51Lewis Howes?

  So if I did stand up against them, then that means I was alone. And that was my biggest fear, was being alone.

• 38:56Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, because that's what, that's what teams and groups deliver. They deliver this thing that you're not alone.

• 39:03Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 39:04Speaker 05

  The problem is there's just, I was so shocked to learn in the research that the opposite of belonging is fitting in. Because fitting in is assessing a group of people and thinking, who do I need to be? What do I need to say? What do I need to wear? How do I need to act? And changing who you are. And true belonging never asks us to change who we are. It demands that we be who we are. Because if we, if we, if we fit in because how we've changed ourselves, that's not belonging.

• 39:35Speaker 05

  That's not belonging because you betrayed yourself for other people. And that's not sustainable.

• 39:43Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, you start to lose yourself.

• 39:44Speaker 05

  You start to lose yourself, exactly what you said. And so I think it's hard. You have to show up as who you are.

• 39:50Lewis Howes?

  How do we find out who we are?

• 39:52Speaker 05

  That's the life's work, right? That's frickin' hard.

• 39:56Lewis Howes?

  Isn't vulnerability courage?

• 39:57Speaker 05

  Vulnerability is defined as uncertainty, risk, and emotional exposure. Can you name one act of courage that you've ever been involved in or that you've ever even witnessed that did not involve uncertainty, risk, and emotional exposure? And it's a loaded question because I know the answer is no. Because I've asked it thousands and thousands. I've stood in front of Navy SEALs and special forces, military personnel, and said, "Give me an example. I want you to try hard to give me an example of courage that didn't require vulnerability." And in 10 years, I've never had a single person be able to come up. I've even had two guys come up to me who were in the military that said, "We're gonna think about it and get with you."

• 40:40Lewis Howes?

  They never got back to you.

• 40:41Speaker 05

  Oh my God, I said, "Do it. I would love it. Give me an example of courage, even on the field,

• 40:49Speaker 05

  that doesn't involve vulnerability." Like, if you, if you think you're being brave and it doesn't involve risk or uncertainty, you're not being that brave.

• 40:59Lewis Howes?

  It's too safe.

• 40:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, if you know how it's gonna turn out, it's not courage. And so in that moment, people go, "Shut.

• 41:06Speaker 05

  But I wanna be brave and I don't wanna be vulnerable." And I'm like, therein lies the great dilemma of our time.

• 41:14Lewis Howes?

  Right, right.

• 41:15Speaker 05

  Yeah. No one wants to be uncomfortable. No one wants to be vulnerable and everyone wants to be brave. And it just doesn't work like that.

• 41:22Lewis Howes?

  Right. And anytime we try something new, we've gotta, we've gotta be uncomfortable.

• 41:26Speaker 05

  It's vulnerable.

• 41:26Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, it's vulnerable.

• 41:27Speaker 05

  I mean, when I ask people, "What is vulnerability?", people would say, "Initiating sex with my wife.

• 41:33Speaker 05

  Sending my child out the door who thinks he's going to make the first chair in orchestra and knowing he's probably not gonna make the orchestra at all. Getting fired. Starting my own business. Saying I love you first in a relationship. Trying to get pregnant after my first miscarriage." I mean, like, vulnerability is, it's uncertainty. It's not knowing, but doing it anyway because it's the brave thing to do.

• 41:59Speaker 05

  And so, the problem is, I think, that the greatest shame trigger for men is do not be perceived as weak. And in our culture, we believe that vulnerability is weakness. So you don't have to skip too many steps before you go, hey, it's shaming to be vulnerable. And so, men do two things in the face of shame: pissed off or shut down.

• 42:27Lewis Howes?

  Put on a mask.

• 42:29Speaker 05

  Put on a mask.

• 42:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 42:31Speaker 05

  And so, what we're learning and what people are starting to see very quickly is you cannot be a courageous leader if you're not vulnerable. If you're not willing to have hard, uncomfortable conversations, give hard feedback, receive hard feedback. Like discomfort is the great enemy of courage. Like, my motto is, we say it here all the time, choose courage over comfort, because you can't have both. And if you think you're being brave and you're super comfortable, you're not being that brave.

• 43:01Lewis Howes?

  What Brene Brown teaches is so, so hard to internalize. But once you do, once you face your shame and you allow yourself to be vulnerable and stop worrying about fitting in, then you have the opportunity to really change, really grow, and really chase the life you want. But what if you want to change, but you don't exactly know how? And what if you don't know what you want? A lot of people, especially right now, feel stuck, and it can seem impossible to figure out where you should be headed. That's how I felt when I was on my sister's couch. And I know how difficult it is to envision an idea of a new future, let alone go and craft it. Fortunately, there are tools out there to help.

• 43:46Lewis Howes?

  And I learned one of them from my good friend, Chris Lee. Chris is an extremely successful leadership coach. He's been on the podcast more than any other guest, 14 times, because he has that much wisdom to offer. Still, I keep coming back to our first episode together, episode number 36, where he led me through an exercise that forever changed my perspective. We're going to pick up this interview with Chris, talking about how to define your future in a moment of struggle.

• 44:19Speaker 06

  Once I've identified the breakdown and acknowledged it in a positive way, took responsibility, I've taken responsibility for the breakdown, evaluating, okay, so how did I create this? What was missing from me, or what could I have done different? Then I forgive self and others, then I'm ready to make a new commitment. Now I'm ready to make a new declaration. Okay, so what now what? Past is over, what's my new vision? What's my new commitment to my business, my new commitment to my body, my new commitment to my relationship, my new commitment to life? And I make a new commitment, and by making a new commitment, it's important to visualize it.

• 45:00Speaker 06

  And one of the things that I recommend is closing your eyes and doing a visualization.

• 45:07Lewis Howes?

  So let's do this right now, let's put people through visualization and walk them through their vision or their dreams.

• 45:16Speaker 06

  So what I would say is, you know, right now, wherever you are, just stop what you're doing. And take a moment to close your eyes.

• 45:27Speaker 06

  One of the things that I do is I ask people to put their hands over their heart, because I think that when things are driven from the heart, the results are extraordinary. You could have things driven from your heart, or things driven from your ego, and so...

• 45:42Lewis Howes?

  Before we get started, this is a powerful experience, so I want everyone to have the opportunity to experience this. So if you're at work, if you're sitting at your desk, just literally take a few minutes right now to stop what you're doing. And do this little quick exercise, I think it'll be really cool for you guys, go ahead.

• 45:58Speaker 06

  Not only is it cool, it's effective in having me grounded in what I want. Because we are so focused on what we don't want, and we're so focused on stress and focus on anxiety. And one of the things that I do in my seminars is I give people the opportunity just to have a moment to check in with themselves. So what I would ask is, I'm gonna actually do it with you, Lewis, right now, and through you, we'll do it with all the people that are listening. So just close your eyes and put your hands over your heart and take a deep breath in and let it out.

• 46:39Speaker 06

  And just take a moment to visualize

• 46:46Speaker 06

  your life

• 46:53Speaker 06

  in one year.

• 46:58Speaker 06

  So it's a year later.

• 47:02Speaker 06

  And I want you to imagine

• 47:05Speaker 06

  the life that you're living.

• 47:09Speaker 06

  You've accomplished the goals that you set.

• 47:13Speaker 06

  And more importantly, you're feeling

• 47:18Speaker 06

  and experiencing the feelings and experience

• 47:24Speaker 06

  that you've always wanted to.

• 47:28Speaker 06

  That one thing you've been searching for.

• 47:34Speaker 06

  Whether it's a relationship,

• 47:40Speaker 06

  family, health,

• 47:45Speaker 06

  finances,

• 47:51Speaker 06

  joy.

• 47:53Speaker 06

  You are now experiencing it.

• 47:59Speaker 06

  So think about your vision for yourself,

• 48:03Speaker 06

  your body, your health, your mind,

• 48:08Speaker 06

  spirituality,

• 48:12Speaker 06

  your vision for your family,

• 48:16Speaker 06

  your vision for your world.

• 48:22Speaker 06

  It's a year later and that vision's now a reality.

• 48:29Speaker 06

  So in your mind, I want you to imagine

• 48:34Speaker 06

  moment to moment, what it feels like to actually live it.

• 48:40Speaker 06

  So you've achieved the weight that you wanted. You've achieved the relationships that you wanted.

• 48:49Speaker 06

  Maybe your dream is to have that soulmate next to you. The woman of your dreams. The woman that you thought was unavailable. And she's now lying in bed next to you.

• 49:05Speaker 06

  And you wake up and she grabs your hand.

• 49:10Speaker 06

  And she looks at you with a big smile. And she's crying because she can't believe

• 49:19Speaker 06

  that she's with you.

• 49:25Speaker 06

  So just look at each moment of the day, living that.

• 49:31Speaker 06

  Experience it, smell it, taste it. What does it sound like?

• 49:40Speaker 06

  And in your mind's eye, go through the entire day, living and accomplishing that dream.

• 49:51Speaker 06

  Maybe your goal was to lose X amount of pounds. You're stepping on the scale at the gym and you've hit your goal.

• 49:59Speaker 06

  Or your goal is to be united with your family that weren't talking to each other. You're at the dinner table and you're all connected. Or your goal is to have your business finally hit that profit number.

• 50:15Speaker 06

  And you just checked in with your bank account or checked in with your accountant and you've exceeded it.

• 50:25Speaker 06

  See yourself experiencing that and enjoying that.

• 50:33Speaker 06

  And I want you to think back at the last year.

• 50:37Speaker 06

  What were the limiting beliefs that you needed to give up? To accomplish this?

• 50:44Speaker 06

  What were the actions you needed to take?

• 50:49Speaker 06

  So see yourself celebrating health, relationships, finances, family. The life you've always dreamed of is now a reality.

• 51:03Speaker 06

  And you can't wait for what's next.

• 51:07Speaker 06

  Take a deep breath in.

• 51:12Speaker 06

  And let it out.

• 51:16Speaker 06

  And open your eyes.

• 51:19Speaker 06

  What did you experience? What did you see?

• 51:25Speaker 06

  Share your own vision that you saw in a year happening.

• 51:30Lewis Howes?

  For me, I saw a vision of this amazing environment that I was living in. And all the people that I cared about on my team and my business were people I loved in the world. And they were all laughing and having fun and joyful. We all had this vision together. And every day, we were working on this vision with passion and joy and energy. And we were all on the same page. If one person had a breakdown, we were supportive and shifted out of it. And it was sunny. It was, you know, a big space with a lot of light and just passion. Dancing, joy, energy.

• 52:14Speaker 06

  That's awesome.

• 52:15Lewis Howes?

  For the business. And I just saw us breaking our goals. When you were talking about opening your bank account, I was like, I just saw us breaking the goals every time we'd set goals.

• 52:27Lewis Howes?

  Because we're coming from this vision. And I was picturing myself next to this amazing, passionate woman.

• 52:35Speaker 06

  I saw her.

• 52:36Lewis Howes?

  I know.

• 52:37Speaker 06

  I saw her, man. I saw her next to you in bed.

• 52:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:40Speaker 06

  I felt like, you know, I was invading your privacy.

• 52:44Lewis Howes?

  Chris just saw my room before we started recording, my studio here. So I saw myself with this woman just crying and smiling and laughing in the morning.

• 52:56Speaker 06

  Like you found a home, right?

• 52:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 52:58Speaker 06

  Like what you've been looking for your whole life, you've found it right there.

• 53:01Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I saw my hand in her hand.

• 53:03Speaker 06

  That's incredible.

• 53:04Lewis Howes?

  And I saw my fam- I saw my family together in the mountains, snowboarding, and having this amazing experience and coming together because I sourced it and I'm creating that and I'm bringing everyone together. And that's the main things I saw. I didn't get in the community much, but.

• 53:26Speaker 06

  Well, and as people hear this, some people skeptical, like, oh, that's so stupid. I want you to know I was one of those people. I used to, when I, when I closed my eyes, I saw nothing but black because I had no imagination. And so one of the key ingredients to success at any level is the ability to close your eyes, to take a moment, and I recommend that you actually do this every single day. Every day, take five, 10 minutes to just envision and visualize the life that you're headed towards and the life that you want. If you've got the power to imagine it, you've got the power to create it.

• 54:08Lewis Howes?

  I always believed in the power of visualization, conceptually, but Chris really taught me how to put it into practice. And I feel like a lot of my success took root in that visualization. The wonderful relationship I'm in, the community I have around me, writing a New York Times bestseller, building an amazing team at the School of Greatness, and all the goals we've hit together, like becoming a top 100 podcast and claiming the number one spot in health and fitness. I'm so excited about the goals we're continuing to set, like finding a way to impact 100 million people a week. And if you believe it, you can make it come true.

• 54:46Lewis Howes?

  Wow, I feel like we've covered a lot of ground today. From facing your fears to taking control of your life instead of letting life take control of you. No matter what's going on in your life, no matter how much you're struggling, you can turn it around. And if you feel like things are going great, there's always a next level of greatness. If you enjoyed this episode, let me know about that and share it with a friend. And I can't wait to bring you part two of this podcast where we'll go even deeper. I won't give you the full roster for part two, but I will say it features Kobe Bryant. Rest in peace. If you haven't listened to some of the podcasts I mentioned today, they're all in the description of this episode.

• 55:30Lewis Howes?

  And remember, please subscribe over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to get my full back catalog. And I want to leave you with this quote from Vincent Van Gogh. "Great things are not done by impulse, but by a series of small things brought together." And if no one's told you today, remember that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. You know what time it is. It's time to go out there and do something great.