Ep. 955: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CCXLI

Brody Henderson guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Spencer Neuharth, Randall Williams, Cory Calkins, Seth Morris, Sarah Delany, and Reva Hansen. Presented by Busch Light Connect with MeatEater on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/meateater, Facebook https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater/, Twitter https://twitter.com/MeatEaterTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor, YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAaa0mleeU128Ad5iM1RFIg, and YouTube Clips https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterClips Subscribe to MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork Shop Trivia Merch https://store.themeateater.com/collections/meateater-trivia/?lang=en_US See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:04Steven Rinella?

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• 0:49Steven Rinella?

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  It's a meat eater podcast.

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  That.

• 2:06Steven Rinella?

  We're good.

• 2:06Speaker 04

  We're good, Phil.

• 2:07Steven Rinella?

  We're good.

• 2:07Speaker 04

  So I just start whenever I feel like it?

• 2:09Steven Rinella?

  Mm-hmm. How about it?

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  Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. There's a prize. Meat Eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. I'm your host, Brody, and today we're joined by Corey, Reva, Spencer, Randall, Sarah, and Seth. Got them all. Didn't screw any of them up.

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  Counterclockwise.

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  Counterclockwise.

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  Yeah.

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  You know, whatever.

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  Guess what?

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  I'm a righty.

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  Where am I at? Oh, this is a 10-round quiz show with questions for meat eaters for verticals, hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. As most of you know, that's like loose.

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  Yes.

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  Those categories are loose.

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  Meat Eater Trivia is brought to you by one of our favorite beers, Bush Light. Bush Light, head for the mountains.

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  Tasty. That's a good read.

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  We got a mailbag question today. If you've got a question you want the trivia crew to answer, then send your questions to trivia@themeat eater.com with the subject line "mailbag", and Spencer will check them out.

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  I will.

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  Okay, today we've got one from Jess A. who writes, "My husband Josh recently got a job with an outfitter to do hunt guiding in Arizona. He has many years of experience doing everything from hunting to backwoods camping, from the most desert-y deserts to the woods to everything in between. He's looking for resources on how to be a good guide and have a good guiding business. Any recommendations besides watching and listening to more meat eater?" Corey? Lay it on me.

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  Man, I feel like to be a good guide, it just kind of comes natural. So best of luck to you.

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  How many years were you a fishing guide and hunting guide, Corey?

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  15 years.

• 3:59Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 4:00Speaker 05

  Yeah. And I wasn't great at it at first. I was just a punk, like, you know, 18, 19, 20-year-old kid.

• 4:05Speaker 04

  So it didn't come naturally?

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  You gotta be like very personal.

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  You had it from the start?

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  You gotta pretend like you give a damn about what they're telling you, you know?

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  You see, you're not painting a good picture here, man. I was expecting a lot more out of you.

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  Fake it till you make it, brother.

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  I mean, you guide everyone in this company for elk.

• 4:21Steven Rinella?

  You should have heard Corey the other day when we were fishing.

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  Not everyone.

• 4:24Steven Rinella?

  He just would roll into his little guide, like, now there's a little sweet little pocket of water right here coming up behind this, you know, and he would just, he'd be talking to you, and then he would, there would be like an autoplay in his head that as you approached a piece of structure or whatever, he would, or, "This bank looks pretty moosy. I wonder if there's a bull tucked away somewhere in the willows."

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  That's the thing. There's like way more to it than what he's saying. Randall, you did a little guiding. You got any tips?

• 4:48Steven Rinella?

  Man, I honestly think it's, uh...

• 4:52Steven Rinella?

  Do you get along with people?

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  Yeah.

• 4:54Steven Rinella?

  Do people have a good time when they're with you?

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  And you either do or you don't.

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  Yeah. Anyone else got anything to add? You hunted with a guide, fished with a guide?

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  I think you gotta have good interp. Like, you gotta have like 10 or 15 facts about where you're guiding, kind of locked down, ready to pull out at any time.

• 5:10Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah, but you don't want it to sound like you're telling the same damn story over and over again.

• 5:15Steven Rinella?

  Which is what I got from Corey.

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  Over there is the tree that got struck by lightning.

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  How long were you a guide, Brody?

• 5:24Steven Rinella?

  You gotta read people, too.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get to my whole spiel. I was hoping Corey would just like have a lot more to say about it.

• 5:31Speaker 05

  That's, that's all you need to know.

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  Yeah, like, some more details would help. I'm assuming she's talking about, he's gonna be guiding deer and elk, but there's like all different kinds of guiding deer and elk. Could be hiking in, could be horsepacking, could be out of vehicles, a lodge, hotels, who knows?

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  That all makes a difference in how you're gonna prepare for a hunt and then how the guides are gonna guide. If there's, you, you may, obviously you didn't do this, Corey, you just jumped right in, but there are guide schools and training programs like out there. They run some here in Montana.

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  Yeah, I actually went to one when I was 17, but it was more of a pack school. We learned how to pack.

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  Yeah, for sure, which if he's needing to, I don't know if they're doing that kind of hunting, he should look into it.

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  No, that's a good point.

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  Some of you alluded to what I'm gonna get to. Your husband, he needs to be patient. He needs to be a good teacher. He needs to make things interesting and be able to tell a story and tell details about the area, you know, geology, history, flora, fauna, all that stuff. You gotta be, and I think Randall alluded to this, you gotta be able to talk comfortably to all different kinds of people, like, including the ones you might not agree with on certain things.

• 6:45Steven Rinella?

  Oh, terrible people.

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  Just the worst.

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  And we always kind of had a hard rule, like, don't talk politics, don't talk religion, don't talk anything that like people get real upset about, like, find common ground. You can be like the most knowledgeable, experienced, skilled hunter in the world, but like, if you're not good with people, you ain't gonna have a good outfitter business. And then I'd say the last thing is like, get to know your clients ahead of time and prepare them for the hunt. Know what their expectations are. Like, if a, if a hunter is like seriously out of shape, he probably can't hike up a mountain to kill a trophy bull. And if that's

• 7:30Speaker 04

  your expectation for him, that's like not the way to do it. Like, you need to hunt off of their expectation. They might be happy with a young cow that's easy to get to. And then other things, like, find out what their shooting skills are, what gear they need. All that stuff's gonna make you do a better job. That's all I got to say.

• 7:48Speaker 06

  That's good advice. We just went to guide school.

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  Yep.

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  Oh, yeah.

• 7:52Speaker 05

  I like it.

• 7:52Steven Rinella?

  Corey's having flashbacks.

• 7:54Speaker 04

  I thought Corey would be teaching guide school here at Meat Eater, but now I'm not like...

• 7:57Speaker 05

  No, everything I said, basically you just added more details to what I just said. You covered it. Fake it till you make it.

• 8:06Speaker 04

  That was kind of a long one, so we're not gonna do any housekeeping today. The Henderson Family Index, I've used my, my wife and my two boys for this, today is a 4.5, so our winner should get nine correct answers, if the, if the index means anything at all. I'm not sure it does. It doesn't seem to.

• 8:26Speaker 06

  Can I tell you what the index largely functions? That people need something to compete against every week, and that's a lot of folks will come up to me and be like, "I just try to beat the Shelby Index."

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  Right.

• 8:35Speaker 06

  Like, that's, uh, it's just sets a baseline.

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  There you go, four and a half.

• 8:38Speaker 06

  Who can't catch Brody or Randall on this episode.

• 8:41Speaker 04

  All right. With that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil.

• 8:47Speaker 03

  Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that? Just tend to win everything.

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  Game on, suckers.

• 9:04Speaker 04

  Okay, our first question, as always, is multiple choice. The category is hunting or gear, whichever one you want.

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  The most common, you got, you got the question up there, Phil?

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  You know, I had this conversation, I wait until the host starts reading the question, and then I move the slide over.

• 9:23Speaker 04

  Well, I like to see it up there.

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  Don't you have it on your computer?

• 9:26Speaker 04

  I like to know that things are working.

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  The words are bigger on there.

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  There it is.

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  It looks like it's working great, like it does every single week.

• 9:32Speaker 04

  I don't, yeah, you know, I just gotta make sure, make sure you're paying attention, Phil. The most common and popular style of hunting knife blade is A, clip point, B, trailing point, C, drop point, or D, spear point?

• 9:47Speaker 07

  Where are you getting this? Is this like a historical most popular, or just like the most available on the market today?

• 9:52Speaker 04

  This is widely available knowledge. If you looked it up on the internet, you'd find 200 things that say the same thing.

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  Alright.

• 9:58Speaker 06

  I feel like an idiot, because none of this lingo means anything to me. Yeah.

• 10:04Speaker 05

  Same.

• 10:06Speaker 04

  You guys have heard this stuff. I know you've heard this.

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  Hmm.

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  Randall?

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  I know, I know a few of these. Something they'd probably teach you in a guy's school.

• 10:14Speaker 06

  Big knife boy. Big knife guy. No, not a big knife guy. You know what, though? I did, I, one time I picked up a hitchhiker, and, uh... Hitchhiker's a big knife guy.

• 10:25Speaker 06

  I love the story that starts with a hitchhiker. One time I picked up a hitchhiker. And he was, like, we, we were just getting the wrong impression from him, or maybe we were getting the right impression, we were getting bad vibes. And me and my buddy were in the seats of my pickup, and the guy's in the bed, and we got the little slide window open. And all of a sudden, this knife and this hand come through here, and we're like, oh my god, and he goes, "I'm a big knife guy." He's like, "Check this out, man, you like this?" And, and then he, he began to tell us that he was a big knife guy, and his brother was a big knife guy, but his brother ended up getting stabbed. Oh. So then I was wondering what they really meant by big knife guys, like, if it was just like a collector's thing, or if it was like, you live by the blade and they die by the blade.

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  Fight guy.

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  Yeah, he offered to get us beer and drugs.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  Every week, we learn something new about Randall.

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  We never, we never texted him back.

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  The most common and popular style of hunting knife blade is A, clip point, B, trailing point, C, drop point, or D, spear point?

• 11:25Speaker 06

  That guy would know the answer.

• 11:26Speaker 07

  Big knife guy.

• 11:27Speaker 06

  Wonder if he's still alive?

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  Still got his number?

• 11:32Speaker 04

  No. Has everyone got an answer?

• 11:35Speaker 06

  Right, dig up old phone records. Actually, we did try to call him one time.

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  Alright, reveal your answers. Seth says drop point, Sarah says drop point, Randall says clip point, Spencer says trailing point, Riva says spear point, and Cory says drop point. We have some correct answers.

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  No, it's not me there.

• 11:53Speaker 04

  The answer is C, drop point.

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  Yes. Good work, Cory.

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  You want to show us that picture, Phil? Are you just lagging behind, or what's going on? There you go.

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  I don't need to defend myself.

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  So there you have it. On the, on the left, there is a drop point. That's the most common and popular style blade for a hunting knife. Uh, little, little extra info. A drop point knife is a versatile blade designed, defined by a spine that curves convexly downward from the handle towards the, uh, lower reinforced tip. The top edge slopes smoothly downward towards the point, rather than running straight or dipping. The full thickness of the steel carries forward to the point, making the tip much thicker and resistant to snapping or bending under pressure. The sweeping curve provides ample service area for long, smooth slicing strokes.

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  The point sits closer to the center of the axis of the blade, which improves control, precision, and reduces accidental punctures during delicate work. There you go.

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  Very nice.

• 12:56Speaker 04

  Bet you you got one of those in your, in your hunting kit. Okay, on to question two. The category is gear. Oh, he's got it up quick this time. What two European countries are recognized for making the highest quality leather hiking boots in the world?

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  Quite certain you all have had boots from both of these companies on your feet at one point or another.

• 13:34Speaker 05

  Countries.

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  Countries.

• 13:37Speaker 04

  I thought about doing one, but it just seemed lame.

• 13:40Speaker 06

  Yeah. Ah, I would have preferred to do one.

• 13:42Speaker 07

  One would have been just fine.

• 13:43Speaker 05

  Maybe we could, you could still change your mind.

• 13:45Speaker 04

  No.

• 13:46Speaker 06

  Did your kids get this one right?

• 13:48Speaker 04

  Uh, between my wife and my kids, they did.

• 13:51Speaker 06

  Oh, okay.

• 13:55Speaker 06

  Oh, gosh.

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  Brody's a fellow anti-gut hook guy. I know that.

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  Oh, yeah. Don't like them.

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  Just get in the way.

• 14:07Speaker 04

  Yep. You're either good with a knife or you're not. That's the way I look at it. But I've punctured my shared stomachs in my time. Kinda like the smell now.

• 14:20Speaker 06

  Hopefully, I'll get there someday. Yeah. Randall likes to smell it in his farts the next day. That's what he likes about puncturing them in the guts.

• 14:29Speaker 04

  Everyone got an answer?

• 14:31Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 14:31Speaker 04

  We're good?

• 14:32Speaker 07

  Yeah.

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  Alright, flip them over. Seth, Italy and Germany. Sarah, Italy and Switzerland. Randall, Italy and Switzerland. Spencer, Italy and Switzerland. Riva, Italy and Germany. Cory, Italy and Germany. We got some people that got it right. The answers are Italy and Germany.

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  Oh, no.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  The two European countries most famous for producing high-quality leather hiking boots are Italy and Germany. Both nations share a deep-rooted heritage of alpine mountaineering and master-level shoemaking craftsmanship. Uh, in Italy, the, the bootmaking is largely centered around the Montebelluna region in northern Italy. Uh, Italian manufacturers are renowned for pioneering modern hiking boot innovations, such as the original Vibram rubber lug sole and balancing rugged, balancing rugged durability with premium supple leather. Top brands, Crispy, Scarpa, Zamberland, and La Sportiva.

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  Germany, mainly concentrated in the Bavarian region, Ger- German bootmaking focuses heavily on traditional, robust craftsmanship and incredible longevity. Uh, their boots are known for being highly susport, supportive, and like structural, they have a lot of structural integrity meant for heavy-load backpacking. Top brands are Loa, Mindle, and Handwagon.

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  I didn't know Loa was a German brand.

• 16:05Speaker 04

  There you go. Learned something today.

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  Damn it.

• 16:10Speaker 04

  Does that one hurt, Randall?

• 16:11Speaker 06

  No, I mean, it's fine. In hindsight, I should have said Germany.

• 16:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, you should have.

• 16:16Speaker 04

  Okay, question three. Are we moving real fast or real slow, Phil?

• 16:20Speaker 06

  We're right on time. Yeah, we're, yeah, we're doing great. I'd say your flavor text is, uh, they're kind of extended.

• 16:25Speaker 04

  Uh, wait till you see the next one.

• 16:27Speaker 06

  Well, I, I, yeah, I've, I've seen the script, so I'm just saying it gets longer.

• 16:31Speaker 04

  No, I like them long. I, I like explaining myself.

• 16:34Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 16:35Speaker 04

  Okay, question three. The category is fishing. This four-letter word is another name for a trout chart or salmon spawning bed.

• 16:45Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, I've got some good stuff for this one, Phil.

• 16:51Speaker 06

  Cory, how many points do you have?

• 16:52Speaker 05

  This'll be number three.

• 16:54Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 16:54Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 16:57Speaker 06

  That's fun.

• 17:01Speaker 05

  Don't want to get too excited.

• 17:03Speaker 07

  Hmm, it's early still.

• 17:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's gonna get tough.

• 17:05Speaker 04

  Seth's a bass fisherman, by the way.

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  Yeah.

• 17:11Speaker 06

  I like bed fish and bass, too.

• 17:13Speaker 04

  Spencer, weren't you some kind of fisheries biologist?

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  Yeah, not cold water, though. Cold water's a blind spot for me.

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  If you don't know this word...

• 17:26Speaker 04

  Four-letter word is another name for a trout chart or salmon spawning bed.

• 17:31Speaker 05

  Probably a few of these out there right now is the brown trout.

• 17:34Speaker 06

  Sarah's gonna say, I was gonna say, if you don't know this word, how do you get directions on where to fish?

• 17:41Speaker 04

  Some people would take issue with that, but I don't, Randall.

• 17:44Speaker 06

  Oh, no, I'm, I am being facetious.

• 17:46Speaker 04

  Oh, no, I'm not.

• 17:47Speaker 06

  I'll clarify that for the...

• 17:48Speaker 04

  You, you don't like ripping them off spawning beds with egg patterns?

• 17:52Speaker 06

  Hmm, not so much.

• 17:53Speaker 04

  No? Alright.

• 17:56Speaker 06

  They go back.

• 17:58Speaker 04

  They go right back. I've watched them do it.

• 18:02Speaker 06

  And then some of them go, "Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo" down the current.

• 18:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, spawn somewhere else.

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  I think I know, but I don't know how to spell it.

• 18:11Speaker 04

  Well, just make sure there's four letters.

• 18:15Speaker 06

  That means you should, well, never mind.

• 18:18Speaker 05

  What?

• 18:19Speaker 06

  Nothing.

• 18:20Speaker 05

  It's a good question. I'm surprised we haven't...

• 18:21Speaker 06

  He was gonna tell us it's an easy word to spell. I don't know it either.

• 18:24Speaker 04

  No, he's gonna give you... Alright, come on, I got a long flavor text to get through here.

• 18:30Speaker 06

  Ready.

• 18:33Speaker 04

  Okay, here we go. Seth's ready. Flip them over.

• 18:38Speaker 04

  Seth says red. Sarah says red. Randall says red. Spencer says home. Riva says nest. Corey says red. I'm gonna give it to you Seth.

• 18:46Speaker 06

  Which word, which letter?

• 18:47Speaker 04

  It's four letters. Like read a book.

• 18:51Speaker 06

  Oh, gotcha.

• 18:52Speaker 04

  But it's like, I'm, I'm good with it. If you guys are okay with it.

• 18:55Speaker 06

  Same word, different spelling.

• 18:56Speaker 07

  I'm a phone.

• 18:57Speaker 04

  Um, Phil, are you paying attention to who, who gets them right? Cause I'm not.

• 19:02Speaker 06

  He always does. Yeah, I try to do that every week. That's his job.

• 19:06Speaker 04

  It's making sure. Okay, let's learn about the term red. Traces back to the old English word heredin in the early 15th century. Trout spawning beds are called reds because the word comes from an old Scottish verb, meaning to clear, to make ti- or to make tidy. To red or red up means to clean or put a room in order. When a female trout, you got, yeah, you got it up there. I just gotta stop asking Phil if he's doing his job.

• 19:33Speaker 06

  This is really weird.

• 19:35Speaker 04

  When a female trout or salmon builds a nest, she uses their tail fin and body to brush and scrape the riverbed clean and sweeps away all the dark silk, mud, moss, and leaves that bright patch of gravel that you see there. Um, and it's got two parts. The pot is the scooped out depression where she lays her eggs and the tail spiller pillow is the mound of gravel downstream that'll settle over the eggs and cover them up and protect them.

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  There you go.

• 20:03Speaker 06

  That wasn't nearly as long as I was expecting, yeah.

• 20:06Speaker 04

  It feels like impatient. I'm seeing if I got any of their even, oh yeah, I do. I got some longer ones.

• 20:14Steven Rinella?

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• 21:52Steven Rinella?

  I get sent all kinds of products and snacks and the truth is, most of them come and go. Every once in a while though, I find something I keep reaching for and Wiley Wallaby is one of those things. I first tried it because someone just handed me a bag and said, this isn't like any other kinda licorice you've had before. And they were right. Wiley Wallaby makes authentic Australian style licorice that's incredibly soft and chewy. It's not like that weird, tough, waxy, cheap junk you get. And it doesn't have that artificial taste that turns a lot of people away from licorice in the first place. It's one of those products that's hard to explain until you've tasted it yourself. I keep some in my truck. I keep some in my fish shack. I keep some in my camper. They've got more than 10 flavors.

• 22:32Steven Rinella?

  And whether you like classic flavors or something a little different, there's probably one you'll end up keeping stocked around the house. Plus, it's made in the USA by a company that's been committed to quality and hometown values for over six decades. If you haven't tried Wiley Wallaby yet, pick yourself up a bag. Use code MEATEATER at shop.wileywallaby.com for free shipping and you can try it yourself. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

• 23:03Speaker 04

  Question four. This one's especially for Randall. The category is birds.

• 23:07Speaker 06

  Ooh, bird guy.

• 23:10Speaker 04

  Rough grouse have two primary color phases, red and blank.

• 23:26Speaker 04

  Riva's got an answer. She doesn't even know what a rough grouse looks like.

• 23:40Speaker 06

  I almost made a critical. No, nevermind.

• 23:42Speaker 05

  You know this one?

• 23:43Speaker 06

  No, no.

• 23:44Speaker 05

  No. Does anybody know this one? Eh, not really. Maybe. Find out.

• 23:48Speaker 04

  You guys should hunt grouse more.

• 23:50Speaker 07

  I hunt grouse, but just not the rough ones.

• 23:52Speaker 05

  Only when they get in the way.

• 23:53Speaker 04

  Rough ones are all over around here.

• 23:56Speaker 07

  Yeah, I like, I usually hunt more country.

• 23:58Speaker 04

  And they're dumb.

• 23:59Speaker 07

  Sharpies and.

• 24:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, open stuff.

• 24:02Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 24:03Speaker 04

  Yep. Rough grouse are way better to eat than sharp tails.

• 24:06Speaker 05

  Is that a universal agreement that they're dumb birds?

• 24:09Speaker 04

  No, like back east where Seth and I grew up, they're the most paranoid birds in the world. But around here, they're just dumb because nobody hunts them.

• 24:17Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 24:17Speaker 04

  Relatively speaking.

• 24:18Speaker 07

  Like dusky grouse, like the ones you see up in the mountains.

• 24:21Speaker 04

  You walk by one and flush it, it flies up into the tree six feet, like staring at you.

• 24:25Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 24:26Speaker 04

  They're great. I shoot them out of the trees.

• 24:30Speaker 07

  It's like those arcade games with like the.

• 24:32Speaker 04

  All right, flip them over. Seth says gray. Sarah says brown. Randall says gray. Spencer says tan. Riva says yellow. I told you she didn't know what a rough grouse looks like. Corey says blue.

• 24:45Speaker 04

  Corey, I'm disappointed, man. Blue is a blue grouse.

• 24:48Speaker 07

  I had brown and changed it.

• 24:50Speaker 06

  I wanted to, I changed from blue.

• 24:52Speaker 04

  We had some correct answers. The answer is gray.

• 24:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, Sethi. Is that really a color?

• 24:57Speaker 06

  Grouse brothers.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  I should've done a picture for this one, Phil.

• 25:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, you really messed up, Brody.

• 25:03Speaker 04

  I know.

• 25:03Speaker 06

  Amateur move.

• 25:04Speaker 04

  I know, God. Anyway, two grou- rough grouse color phases are red and gray, which are most clearly distinguished by the color of their tail and some body feathers, mostly tail. Red features a reddish brown or rust colored body and a distinct rusty or red toned tail. Gray features a paler body with distinctly gray tail and rump feathers, uh, usually featuring a black subterminal band near the tip. Uh, gray faced birds dominate colder, snowier northern regions of Canada, Alaska and northern US like right here in Montana. Red faced birds are common in mild, milder southern climates and Pacific coastal areas.

• 25:45Speaker 04

  Biologists note that these variations are heavily tied to natural selection and habitat. Gray faced birds often have survival advantage in northern areas while red faced birds have better camouflage during snow free periods.

• 25:59Speaker 06

  Good job, Phil.

• 26:00Speaker 04

  Phil.

• 26:01Speaker 07

  He's a professional.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  Obviously, there are both of them one spot there. Yeah, most of them around here are gray that I've seen. There you go. Thank you, Phil.

• 26:10Speaker 05

  What a difference between those two fans today.

• 26:12Speaker 06

  Thanks, you're welcome.

• 26:13Speaker 04

  All right, moving on to question five. The category is weather. Now Spencer, I was very worried that we might've had this question before, but I couldn't.

• 26:24Speaker 05

  I hope so, so I can get one right.

• 26:25Speaker 04

  I couldn't ask you.

• 26:27Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:27Speaker 04

  Um, okay. Phil doesn't have it up yet. There it is. The Beaufort scale measures what?

• 26:37Speaker 04

  Category is weather.

• 26:48Speaker 04

  Oh, it's very quiet.

• 26:50Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 26:51Speaker 04

  I think Randall knew this. Why didn't you get it right off the bat?

• 26:53Speaker 06

  I think so.

• 26:54Speaker 04

  Anyone else?

• 26:55Speaker 06

  Big weather guy. I just downloaded the Weather Channel app on my phone. Hmm. How's that been?

• 27:00Speaker 04

  Is that?

• 27:01Speaker 05

  It's pretty bad.

• 27:02Speaker 06

  It's hard to navigate, I'll be honest.

• 27:03Speaker 05

  It's the one I've had forever and I don't know why I haven't changed. It's just like what I'm used to.

• 27:08Speaker 06

  I've just gotten tired of Googling weather place, weather place.

• 27:11Speaker 04

  What, you don't use the one that's just on your Apple phone?

• 27:14Speaker 06

  That one's the worst.

• 27:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:16Speaker 06

  Oh, I, I disagree. They've really refined it over the last several updates. No, no way. I won't believe it.

• 27:25Speaker 04

  I just use the National Weather Service, but, and windy is a real good.

• 27:30Speaker 06

  I use AccuWeather, windy and, uh, the Weather Channel. Put them all together.

• 27:34Speaker 04

  And just like.

• 27:35Speaker 06

  It's still probably gonna be wrong.

• 27:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:36Speaker 07

  I do windy weather underground. That's a pretty good.

• 27:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, I had that one for a while, but something about it bugged me.

• 27:42Speaker 06

  I don't like the weather underground because of the terrorist association. Yeah, terrorist, that's it, yeah.

• 27:46Speaker 05

  Oh, explain that to me.

• 27:48Speaker 06

  Oh, it goes deep.

• 27:49Speaker 05

  Terrorist?

• 27:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:51Speaker 05

  Huh.

• 27:52Speaker 06

  Look it up.

• 27:52Speaker 05

  It's okay. I will, actually.

• 27:54Speaker 04

  Okay. I didn't know that. You'll have to explain that to me later.

• 27:58Speaker 05

  The Weather Channel is not the one though.

• 27:59Speaker 06

  Ask Steve about it. He likes talking.

• 28:00Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 28:01Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 28:01Speaker 04

  I'm sure he does. The Beaufort scale measures what?

• 28:05Speaker 06

  I was joking.

• 28:06Speaker 04

  What thing in the category of weather does the Beaufort scale?

• 28:11Speaker 06

  No, I mean, it is the same name, but I, it doesn't have any bearing on how I feel about the app.

• 28:16Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, thank you for making a stand, Randall, but I take it back.

• 28:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 28:26Speaker 04

  Pro terrorist over there. Alright, I think everyone has an answer, so flip them over. Seth says due point, Sarah says win, Randall says win, Spencer says win, Riva says air pressure, Cory says tides. That's a good. The answer is wind, speed, or force.

• 28:44Speaker 07

  Oh, my gosh.

• 28:45Speaker 04

  So we had some right answers.

• 28:46Speaker 07

  And deleted it.

• 28:47Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 28:48Speaker 04

  Deleted it.

• 28:49Speaker 07

  It's tragic.

• 28:50Speaker 04

  No, wind is fine. Like, just wind is fine.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  Delete.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  Uh, devised in eighteen oh five by Irish-born British Royal Navy hydrograph- hydrographer? Hydrographer? Sounds weird. Sir Francis Beaufort. The scale originally standardized how sailors logged wind effects on warship sails. It was later adapted for use on land. You can see the scale there, zero through twelve, uh, like, force zero is calm, wind under one mile an hour, smoke rises vertically, uh, force four is a moderate breeze, force eight, fresh gale, pretty, pretty high. Fresh gale's thirty-nine to forty-six miles an hour. That's where Randall lives. I know.

• 29:32Speaker 06

  His house is located in fresh gale. I like how land conditions, like, at one or two, it's direction shown by a smoke drift or wind felt on face. At twelve, it's just devastation.

• 29:43Speaker 06

  Are you observing devastation?

• 29:45Speaker 04

  Armageddon. There you go.

• 29:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, eleven's, that's pretty normal.

• 29:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, in Livingston.

• 29:52Speaker 07

  Yeah. Live your life.

• 29:54Speaker 04

  I drove through Livingston the other day. There was not, like, a breath of wind and I, like, I was

• 29:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 29:59Speaker 04

  wondering what was going on.

• 30:03Speaker 04

  Okay. Phil, do we need a scoreboard update right now?

• 30:05Speaker 02

  Now's about the time we do that. Yeah, I'll, I'll go ahead.

• 30:08Speaker 06

  So defeated, bro.

• 30:10Speaker 02

  Uh, here, here at halftime, we got everyone on the board here.

• 30:13Speaker 06

  Quattro.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  Look at that.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  Spencer and Riva have one point apiece.

• 30:17Speaker 04

  Uh, that's why I host.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, Spencer, you, I think you, you win more often than you, you do not when you are playing.

• 30:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:25Speaker 02

  We'll see if you catch up here. Uh, Sarah, Randall, and Cory have three points, and in first place, four points, Seth Morris.

• 30:32Speaker 04

  Mm, had a boy, Seth.

• 30:33Speaker 05

  See if we can hold on to it.

• 30:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. Geez, Pennsylvania brain over there.

• 30:36Speaker 06

  Big ol' brain on Seth.

• 30:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, Pennsylvania brain. They got osmosis going. Mm-hmm.

• 30:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, think alike. Okay, on to question six.

• 30:48Speaker 04

  Which happens to be our question of the week, brought to you by.

• 30:51Speaker 02

  This is why I don't do that.

• 30:52Speaker 04

  I'm, I'm. What do you mean?

• 30:54Speaker 02

  I moved to the question too early. Just keep going, Brody.

• 30:57Speaker 04

  It's alright.

• 31:00Speaker 04

  I mean, I don't really care what you're doing at this point. Randall already has the answer.

• 31:03Speaker 02

  Miss Sarah does, too.

• 31:04Speaker 07

  So do I.

• 31:05Speaker 04

  Damn, I didn't even see it. What? Are you serious?

• 31:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's.

• 31:08Speaker 04

  Like, I'm not, should I even keep going?

• 31:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, for the audience, the listener, Brody.

• 31:13Speaker 04

  Really easy. These players aren't playing.

• 31:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think so.

• 31:16Speaker 04

  Nicely. Okay, question of the week from, I'm not gonna pronounce this right, but you know who you are. Shalom? Tietja? We got his email. What's he get for sending us in? Hundred and fifty dollar first light gift card. If you want to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia at the meat eater dot com. See, Spencer's got this script memorized.

• 31:37Speaker 07

  Dialed.

• 31:39Speaker 04

  Um, category is guns. This type of rifle and shotgun stock with a raised cheek rest comes from the French Riviera and shares a name with a former Las Vegas casino.

• 31:53Speaker 07

  My shotgun has one of these.

• 31:55Speaker 05

  I'm not changing it.

• 31:56Speaker 04

  I'm not changing it either, Seth.

• 31:59Speaker 04

  Let's ride it out.

• 32:02Speaker 05

  This is a, this is a hill I'm gonna die on.

• 32:05Speaker 04

  I've never used a shotgun with one of these. I've used a rifle with one of them. Do you think it's not right?

• 32:09Speaker 07

  Very common with women's stocks.

• 32:11Speaker 05

  I know, I, I think, I think I'm right, bro.

• 32:16Speaker 05

  I can't say that I'm a hundred percent sure, but.

• 32:19Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 32:23Speaker 04

  I mean, y'all know the name of a casino, come on.

• 32:26Speaker 05

  A former casino?

• 32:28Speaker 04

  Former, which, which one of the old ones that went out of business?

• 32:32Speaker 05

  Lucky Lils?

• 32:34Speaker 07

  No, they are, they're very much in business.

• 32:36Speaker 05

  They are thriving. They're doing just fine. There's Lucky Lils, there's probably ten Lucky Lils being built right now in Montana.

• 32:44Speaker 07

  The big, the new big one right next to the town pump on Huffine, separate building.

• 32:48Speaker 05

  It's insane. Lucky Lils.

• 32:50Speaker 04

  This type of rifle and shotgun stock with a raised cheek rest comes from the French Riviera and it shares a name with a former Las Vegas casino. Does everyone have an answer?

• 33:00Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  Riva, you ever been to Vegas?

• 33:04Speaker 07

  Yes, I have twice.

• 33:06Speaker 05

  Did you, uh, do some gambling?

• 33:10Speaker 07

  Yes, I actually have.

• 33:11Speaker 05

  Did you win?

• 33:12Speaker 04

  We gotta get Seth.

• 33:13Speaker 07

  No, I mean, not much.

• 33:14Speaker 05

  Sorry. You saw it when I crossed up. Well, not much.

• 33:18Speaker 04

  Oh, you got an answer?

• 33:21Speaker 04

  Alright, flip them over. Seth says Monte Carlo, Sarah says Monte Carlo, Randa says Monte Carlo, Spencer says Venetian, Riva says horseshoe, and Cory has never been to Vegas.

• 33:33Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 33:34Speaker 04

  But I bet you shot a rifle with one of these things.

• 33:37Speaker 05

  Hey, I've never heard of that before.

• 33:38Speaker 04

  The answer is Monte Carlo.

• 33:40Speaker 04

  Venetian, oh.

• 33:44Speaker 07

  Bellagio?

• 33:44Speaker 05

  He's definitely shot one.

• 33:45Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Can we show him a picture, Phil? I took a lot of time to get a picture of this thing. Weatherby.

• 33:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was gonna say, if you have a Weatherby, you had Monte Carlo.

• 33:56Speaker 04

  There you go, that's what it looks like. Uh, the Monte Carlo design originated in the nineteenth century at the Monte Carlo Shooting Range in Monaco, which was known for live pigeon shooting competitions. Uh, the raised cheek comb combined with a dart, a sharp downward step, or cutaway near the heel. The design is widely used on shotguns, especially trap and sporting models, and large caliber rifles.

• 34:20Speaker 04

  Um, the, the bet, kind of the reason is keeping the head in a more upright, natural position rather than forcing the neck to bend down, um, and ensures that the entire butt of the gun makes full contact with the shooter's shoulder. Raises the shooter, shooter's eye to the relative, the rib line of a shotgun, or aligns the eye properly with an optical scope. Ideal for shooters with long necks, high cheekbones, or sloping shoulders. Faster mounts, uh, with a shotgun, like, a quick instinctive mount to the face. The drawbacks are, it can raise the head too high, causing awkward alignment when shooting at steep upward or downward angles, and on very large caliber rifles, and I've experienced this, um, a high comb can sometimes increase perceived recoil, particularly cheek and facial impact, if the gun isn't dialed in precisely, like, the fit of the gun.

• 35:18Speaker 04

  You ever been to the Monte Carlo, Brody? No. I've only, I think I've only been to Vegas twice. I hate that place.

• 35:26Speaker 04

  I love it.

• 35:27Speaker 05

  I've never been.

• 35:28Speaker 07

  Only been to the airport.

• 35:28Speaker 04

  We should do a meat eater trip.

• 35:30Speaker 05

  I've been in the airport.

• 35:31Speaker 04

  How can we make a shot show?

• 35:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:33Speaker 04

  Oh, you're right, yeah.

• 35:34Speaker 06

  I'm trying to get to shot show anyway.

• 35:36Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 35:36Speaker 06

  It's been too long.

• 35:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, let's go to Vegas. Let's do it. We'll bring Phil.

• 35:41Speaker 02

  Oh, please.

• 35:42Speaker 04

  Phil, you like gambling?

• 35:43Speaker 02

  Uh, no, it gives me horrible anxiety, but I like, I like, I like all the theme park, uh, Jason stuff down there. It's fun. We'll just go to the tiki bars.

• 35:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can have, I guess you can have a lot of fun there now without gambling, you know, there's all kinds of crazy stuff to do. Question number seven. Put it up there, Phil. Category is fishing.

• 36:04Speaker 04

  In two thousand nine, an angler in what country tied the world record for largemouth bass?

• 36:16Speaker 05

  So we're naming the country?

• 36:18Speaker 04

  You're naming the country, yes.

• 36:23Speaker 04

  Two thousand nine, an angler in what country tied the world record for largemouth bass? Spencer knows this one. First one I felt confident about. Yeah? Anyone else confident?

• 36:35Speaker 06

  Pretty.

• 36:35Speaker 04

  Seth?

• 36:36Speaker 06

  Pretty confident.

• 36:36Speaker 04

  Bass man?

• 36:40Speaker 05

  I mean, I think I have it narrowed down to two.

• 36:42Speaker 04

  Okay. What about you, Randall? I'm pretty confident. Pretty confident. Alright.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  We got some people who think they know it.

• 36:51Speaker 04

  Everybody got an answer? Flip them over. Seth says Mexico, Sarah says Canada, Randall says Japan, Spencer says Japan, Riva says Canada, Cory says USA. The answer is Japan.

• 37:05Speaker 06

  Dang it.

• 37:06Speaker 05

  Really? I knew they had a.

• 37:08Speaker 06

  Huge bass fishing culture, but I thought. They do. I didn't think they were big.

• 37:12Speaker 04

  And they're, they're, you know, they're, it's like they, they made that bass, they're, they're obviously not native to Japan.

• 37:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 37:18Speaker 04

  On July 2nd, 2009, Japanese angler Manubu, Manabu Kiritah tied the largemouth bass world record set by George Perry. And George's Lake Montgomery in 1932. He caught the massive largemouth out of Lake Biwa on a live bluegill, which I love.

• 37:37Steven Rinella?

  That's nice.

• 37:38Speaker 06

  That's good.

• 37:39Speaker 04

  And after some controversy about whether Korea, Kiritah landed the bass in a no fishing zone was settled, like he wasn't fishing in a no fishing zone. The record was officially certified by the I G F A.

• 37:53Speaker 06

  Big old fish. Did they include the weight of the bluegill in that?

• 37:57Speaker 04

  I don't know. If it made it into his stomach, you know?

• 38:00Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 38:01Speaker 04

  And actually, like, there's some rule in the I G F A record book that a record has to, like, exceed, to break a record, the new record has to exceed it by, I think, two ounces, maybe? Um, and hi- his bass actually weighed almost an ounce more than Perry's bass did, but it didn't exceed whatever that, that kind of like.

• 38:25Speaker 06

  Threshold.

• 38:25Speaker 04

  The threshold is.

• 38:27Speaker 06

  That's a big bucket. Oh, gosh, Seth, could you imagine?

• 38:31Speaker 04

  God, I'd love to fish a live bluegill to one of those things.

• 38:34Speaker 06

  That would be fun. I imagine that's under a bomber, too. Yeah.

• 38:38Speaker 04

  I, yeah, sure. Yeah.

• 38:39Speaker 06

  I'd put a balloon on it.

• 38:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, you feel, I feel like an American angler wouldn't be caught dead doing that, Seth. No, an American angler wouldn't look like that.

• 38:48Speaker 06

  No, they do it on Okeechobee down in Florida. They're not using bluegills, but they're using shiners, yeah.

• 38:53Speaker 04

  Yeah. So how do you feel? Like, what would be the reaction in the United States if that's how someone set the new record? You think?

• 39:00Speaker 06

  Hmm. Oh, I'd celebrate him. Yeah, I mean, I, I wouldn't care. Either. I'm sure there's some dudes out there like, you didn't do it with.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  Right.

• 39:09Speaker 06

  You know, some artificial.

• 39:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:12Steven Rinella?

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• 40:35Speaker 06

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• 40:49Steven Rinella?

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• 41:32Speaker 04

  All right. It's question eight. Before we get to that question, let's do another scoreboard update, Phil.

• 41:39Speaker 06

  Don't we use, we do it after question eight, right Spencer?

• 41:41Speaker 04

  Well, let's just do that after then, Phil. I've got an idea.

• 41:45Speaker 06

  It's a great idea. Great suggestion.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  You could have told me that beforehand. You saw the, the script. You could have told me that. You were waiting for me to just fail.

• 41:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, he was, he was very thrilled.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  I used to like Phil.

• 41:59Speaker 06

  What, between yesterday's news show and whatever you're doing today, I feel incredibly cornered and.

• 42:06Speaker 04

  Phil, I love you, you know I do.

• 42:08Speaker 06

  He's on Indeed back there.

• 42:12Speaker 04

  This is also a fan question brought to you by Nicholas Sikoski, who's turned in some questions before, but I wasn't gonna give him the question of the week because I think he's already had it a couple of times. Uh, the category is water.

• 42:25Speaker 06

  You know why you can't win it?

• 42:28Speaker 04

  No, he's already gotten the question twice. Spencer awarded it to him twice. Um, okay, question is, Noah uses this four-letter word to describe a circular current of water.

• 42:41Speaker 04

  Now Cory.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  Be very disappointed.

• 42:45Speaker 06

  Big fishing guy Cory over there.

• 42:49Speaker 06

  A lot of four-letter words in this game.

• 42:51Speaker 04

  Not the, not the nasty ones.

• 42:53Speaker 06

  In countries.

• 42:59Speaker 05

  All I can think about is being the crosswalk guy here in 15 minutes.

• 43:04Speaker 06

  Don't bring that into the office. Don't bring that negativity in the office.

• 43:07Speaker 05

  You're a crosswalk guy? Hustle. Yeah, crosswalk guy.

• 43:10Speaker 04

  Your, your kid can be the crosswalk guy. He'll be fine.

• 43:14Speaker 05

  He's not tall enough.

• 43:17Speaker 05

  There's some aggro drivers out there, you gotta like.

• 43:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, only people driving go-karts would see him and stop.

• 43:23Speaker 04

  Well, write a damn answer down if you need to be.

• 43:25Speaker 05

  Oh, no, we're good on time. That's all I'm thinking about, though. Falling apart.

• 43:32Speaker 04

  Core. Nothing coming to you, Seth?

• 43:35Speaker 06

  Hmm, Core, come on, bud.

• 43:38Speaker 05

  It's not four letters. Hold on, let's keep talking.

• 43:41Speaker 06

  I started calling Cory Core this weekend.

• 43:45Speaker 05

  That's what my mom calls me.

• 43:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, Core.

• 43:47Speaker 04

  Did Cory forget the 10 or did you?

• 43:51Speaker 05

  It was a team effort.

• 43:52Speaker 06

  It was a miscommunication. Oh, no. Yeah. He survived. I think it was more fun.

• 43:59Speaker 04

  It didn't lead to just like a knock down, drag out fight in the middle of the woods.

• 44:04Speaker 05

  I brought the stove.

• 44:05Speaker 04

  The complete, like, just like.

• 44:07Speaker 06

  At what point did you guys realize there was no tent? When we were going to set up the tent.

• 44:14Speaker 06

  Two point, whatever miles in. Who had the tarp? I had the tarp.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  Noah uses this four-letter word to describe a circular current of water. I think everyone's got an answer, so flip them over. Seth says Eddie, Sarah says Eddie, Randall says Eddie, Spencer says Eddie, Reva says lock. Cory does not have an answer.

• 44:32Speaker 05

  It doesn't always go in a circle.

• 44:33Speaker 06

  Your mind's not.

• 44:34Speaker 04

  The answer is Eddie.

• 44:36Speaker 06

  In the game, buddy.

• 44:37Speaker 05

  This is a circle.

• 44:38Speaker 07

  I think of the Eddie.

• 44:38Speaker 05

  I think of it as like a big old oval.

• 44:43Speaker 05

  Or it's almost D-shaped sometimes.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  I think you're nitpicking a little bit.

• 44:47Speaker 05

  I'm trying to answer your question.

• 44:49Speaker 04

  There's an Eddie. Looks like a circle to me.

• 44:52Speaker 07

  That is a particularly.

• 44:54Speaker 06

  There's for sure trout sitting there.

• 44:55Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:56Speaker 05

  Foam is home.

• 44:57Speaker 04

  The word Eddie comes from the word ed, meaning turning back again or backwards. It is closely related to the old Norse word etha, which explicitly means a whirlpool. Eddie has been used in the English language since the 15th century to describe flow patterns such as water, air, smoke, or gas that move counter to the direction of the main current. Eddie's occur when a fluid moves past an obstruction like a rock or bridge in a river, or when ocean or air currents pinch off a section of flow, creating a low-pressure pocket where water or air curls back upstream or in a loop. The Eddie line is the invisible boundary or seam where a fast-moving main current meets the slower, reversed flowing water of the Eddie.

• 45:38Speaker 04

  In oceans, Eddie, Eddie's bring nutrient-rich cold, deep water to the surface, and in rivers, they provide feeding and resting spots for fish out of the main current.

• 45:50Speaker 07

  I've always thought of the structure as being that.

• 45:52Speaker 04

  They didn't teach you about Eddie's in that guide school you went to, huh?

• 45:55Speaker 05

  I mean, I caught a fish in an Eddie just two days ago.

• 45:59Speaker 07

  Couldn't have, couldn't have named it though.

• 46:01Speaker 04

  All right. I guess we gotta do some kind of review now, Phil.

• 46:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, well, let's do a scoreboard update. Cory's basically got his reflective.

• 46:07Speaker 04

  Things have changed a little bit.

• 46:09Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, Cory, who, who was, uh, in, tied up in second with three points, has not gotten another point, uh, since then, so. We're looking at Reva with one. Spencer and Cory now have three points apiece. Sarah has five. And in first place, Seth and Randall are tied up with six.

• 46:26Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 46:27Speaker 06

  Well, I think. Left side of the table.

• 46:29Speaker 07

  Crushing.

• 46:30Speaker 04

  Power.

• 46:32Speaker 04

  Moving on to question nine.

• 46:35Speaker 04

  And we're gonna do the correct answer review after this question, Phil, just so you know.

• 46:39Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 46:41Speaker 04

  The category is cooking. According to culinary legends like Julia Childs and James Beard and Michelin chef Mala McQueen, what red wine is the gold standard recommendation for the French wine-based stew called Beef Bourgogne?

• 47:07Speaker 04

  Anybody need me to read that again? The listeners, the listeners do. All you listeners out there. According to culinary legends like Julia Childs and uh James Beard and Michelin chef Mama Mawa McQueen, well, she has a bunch of restaurants around Aspen. Um, what red wine is the, is like the go-to for uh beef bourguignon is the wine-based French stew?

• 47:37Speaker 06

  Corey, if you'd have died on that hunt with Randall, uh Randall was actually going to adopt Marshall afterwards. I don't know if he told you that.

• 47:43Speaker 05

  No, we didn't make it that far again.

• 47:45Speaker 06

  I wouldn't have crossed and guarded though. It's where he draws the line. I've got appointments at three.

• 47:50Speaker 04

  Were you planning on teaching him how to smoke cigarettes and drink beer and cool stuff like that? That's primarily what he was gonna teach him.

• 47:56Speaker 06

  Pick up hitchhikers?

• 47:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:59Speaker 06

  That was a fun day.

• 48:00Speaker 05

  Crack beer.

• 48:00Speaker 04

  Okay. Everyone got an answer? Flip them over.

• 48:04Speaker 06

  I don't know wine.

• 48:06Speaker 04

  Flip them over. Okay, Sarah says Burgundy, Randall says Port, Spencer says Cabernet.

• 48:15Speaker 04

  Uh, Cap, what, what, what are you saying there?

• 48:17Speaker 06

  Cap Sauvignon.

• 48:19Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 48:19Speaker 07

  Cabernet Sauvignon.

• 48:20Speaker 04

  Corey says Port. It's a zero percenter, man.

• 48:24Speaker 05

  Really?

• 48:25Speaker 04

  Uh, Pinot Noir.

• 48:27Speaker 06

  Oh. Pinot Noir.

• 48:29Speaker 04

  Because the dish originates from the Burgundy region, I'm thinking about giving this to you, Sarah, but I'm not, hold on, hold on.

• 48:36Speaker 06

  What, what'd you have?

• 48:37Speaker 07

  Burgundy.

• 48:38Speaker 04

  For the Burgundy region of Eastern France, this traditional standard is to use.

• 48:44Speaker 06

  That's not the grape though. It's not the grape.

• 48:45Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 48:47Speaker 06

  Yes, Phil. It's a different varietal, yeah. It'd be a better game though.

• 48:50Speaker 04

  The traditional standard is to use a Pinot Noir from that same area. Julia Childs specifies a full-bodied Pinot Noir. Michelin-nominated chef, I got a Mama McQueen.

• 49:04Speaker 06

  Tired of his own flavor.

• 49:05Speaker 04

  Explicitly designates a dry red Pinot Noir as the ideal choice, noting its bright acidity and notes of red berries, herbs, and earthiness complement the savory beef, mushrooms, and pearl onions.

• 49:18Speaker 06

  Mmm.

• 49:19Speaker 04

  This is one of my favorite winter meals to make with deer, deer elk. Uh, you can't go wrong with the original OG Julia Childs recipe. We've also got a couple like versions of it on the meat eater website, including one made with Jack Rabbit, but you, you can use deer elk in that recipe and it'll be great. So there you go. Make that recipe. It's a good one.

• 49:38Speaker 06

  Boy.

• 49:41Speaker 04

  Okay, I guess I gotta go through these answers. Phil doesn't do that for me. Um, question one, C, drop point, two, is Italy and Germany, three, the answer is red, R-E-D-D. Uh, four is gray, five is uh wind speed or force.

• 50:05Speaker 04

  My computer's stuck.

• 50:08Speaker 06

  Monte Carlo?

• 50:09Speaker 04

  Yes, Monte Carlo.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  Seven is Japan, eight is Eddie.

• 50:15Speaker 06

  Pinot Noir.

• 50:16Speaker 04

  Pinot Noir. So this is, this is the last question, guys. What's the situation here?

• 50:22Speaker 06

  Tied up.

• 50:23Speaker 04

  Still tied.

• 50:24Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 50:25Speaker 04

  Lot riding on this one.

• 50:26Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:28Speaker 04

  The category is hunting. I bet you Spencer will get this one.

• 50:30Speaker 06

  Alright, okay.

• 50:32Speaker 04

  What famous big whitetail buck state has the shortest general firearms whitetail season in the country?

• 50:40Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 50:49Speaker 05

  Pulling a state out of a famous bucket?

• 50:51Speaker 06

  And it's, it's not counting muzzleloaders. Or it is.

• 50:56Speaker 04

  General firearms. I think in this state, those are included in general firearms.

• 51:01Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 51:02Speaker 04

  It's not like a special, you know what I'm saying?

• 51:06Speaker 06

  You guys know?

• 51:08Speaker 07

  I could guess.

• 51:13Speaker 06

  Jeez. Do you know, Seth? No.

• 51:15Speaker 04

  Big buck state, which one has the shortest general firearms season in the country for whitetails?

• 51:25Speaker 04

  Everyone got an answer? Spencer's really thinking, man. He knows all the big buck states.

• 51:30Speaker 06

  Dates.

• 51:33Speaker 06

  Get out of town.

• 51:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:35Speaker 06

  He's got his calendar app open.

• 51:37Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 51:39Speaker 06

  That's a good native app. Just think about what hunts you've done, Spencer, that were the shortest.

• 51:43Speaker 04

  I know, I know.

• 51:44Speaker 06

  Cause you've probably hunted this place.

• 51:47Speaker 04

  I believe he has. Little clue.

• 51:51Speaker 06

  Can I change my answer? No.

• 51:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, I haven't said flip them yet. Go for it.

• 51:55Speaker 06

  No, no, that's.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  I think you should, cause there's a lot on the line here.

• 51:59Speaker 06

  Did someone give a hint?

• 52:00Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 52:01Speaker 06

  Let's just do it.

• 52:03Speaker 04

  Okay, I gave you your chance. Flip them over. Seth says Wisconsin, Sarah says Wisconsin, Randall says Ohio, ooh, Spencer says Kansas, Iowa, Corey says Illinois. The answer is Illinois.

• 52:19Speaker 07

  Interesting.

• 52:21Speaker 04

  Boy.

• 52:21Speaker 06

  Well, guess what? That means you have to stick around a little longer, Corey.

• 52:25Speaker 04

  Oh, we got a tiebreaker. Good thing I wrote one. Illinois firearm deer season is short and split into a three-day period in November and a four-day period in December. Illinois offers a long archery season that spans roughly three months from October through mid-January, but during gun season, high hunter numbers and high deer densities, uh, especially in like open agricultural areas mean high harvest rates and uh management quotas are achieved very quickly. A longer gun season could negatively impact mortality rates for young bucks, which would reduce trophy quality, which Illinois is known for, and excessive doe harvest could, could deplete herd numbers.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  There's an asterisk here, cause I'm sure some people will write in about this. There's sometimes some special additional late-season doe only firearms opportunities focused on population reduction in CWD management areas.

• 53:21Speaker 06

  So it's a seven-day total?

• 53:22Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:25Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 53:25Speaker 06

  How long's Ohio's general firearm?

• 53:27Speaker 04

  I don't know. I never lived in Ohio. I think they had a list of like the short ones. Ohio might've been nine.

• 53:33Speaker 06

  I'm just curious. Just curious. Thought we were in the neighborhood.

• 53:36Speaker 07

  I know Wisconsin's short.

• 53:38Speaker 06

  Onto the tiebreaker.

• 53:39Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 53:40Speaker 04

  Jeez, Randall.

• 53:41Speaker 06

  Sorry. Maybe Ohio's just not a big buck state. Looking out for these children.

• 53:44Speaker 04

  Don't we do something before the tiebreaker, Phil?

• 53:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, I usually do this.

• 53:48Speaker 04

  See?

• 53:51Speaker 04

  You know all about this show.

• 53:52Speaker 06

  This is probably my favorite episode along the way.

• 53:56Speaker 04

  Okay, big tiebreaker question. The category is mule deer, cause mule deer are cooler than whitetails.

• 54:04Speaker 04

  You guys ready?

• 54:05Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 54:05Speaker 04

  According to the most recent survey data available for Montana Fish Parks and Wildlife, what is Montana's mule deer population?

• 54:14Speaker 06

  Fish, wildlife, and parks.

• 54:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, whatever. Same thing.

• 54:17Speaker 06

  Boy, that's a great question.

• 54:18Speaker 07

  Can I have like an order of magnitude?

• 54:21Speaker 04

  Oh. It's a big number.

• 54:25Speaker 06

  I'm hoping, I'm hoping to make it one less here in a couple of weeks.

• 54:29Speaker 04

  Yep. You and a lot of other people. A lot of other people already did make it a little less.

• 54:34Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 54:34Speaker 05

  Hard to count them out west.

• 54:35Speaker 04

  A great, great time of year. Brewers won last night. Montana's rifle season is open. Like, good time to be alive.

• 54:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, there was a lot more.

• 54:45Speaker 04

  Brewers fan, huh, Brody? I, I was just happy to not see the Dodgers in there, man.

• 54:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, that was, that was great.

• 54:52Speaker 04

  Plus, Mizerowski, that kid's a badass. And he's a big hunter and a fisherman.

• 54:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 54:57Speaker 04

  Mizerowski, if you're listening, we want to have you on the podcast. You can come play trivia with us too.

• 55:03Speaker 06

  There you go, yeah.

• 55:05Speaker 04

  I think he was in the uh meat eater store in Milwaukee.

• 55:09Speaker 06

  I know, I know some of those guys go there. He's also big into Pokemon, Phil.

• 55:14Speaker 04

  He wanted to be, his, his fallback was being a wildlife biologist.

• 55:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, good for him.

• 55:20Speaker 04

  He can hurl it, man.

• 55:21Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:22Speaker 04

  Anyway, what's uh Montana's mule deer population? Most recent numbers.

• 55:27Speaker 06

  He's shaped like Gumby. He's just blasting.

• 55:30Speaker 04

  I'll, I'll give you a hint. It's between one and a million.

• 55:33Speaker 07

  Ooh, okay.

• 55:35Speaker 06

  That's a hint. Alright, no clue.

• 55:40Speaker 05

  I remember back when there were more mule deer than people and then y'all showed up.

• 55:48Speaker 06

  Sorry, bro.

• 55:49Speaker 04

  How old are you?

• 55:51Speaker 06

  Thirty-eight.

• 55:51Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, back in the old days.

• 55:54Speaker 06

  I know, that's right, Corey. I know how old you are.

• 55:58Speaker 04

  Alright, you guys ready? You got answers? Let's flip them over. Phil, you're gonna have to help. Oh, boy. Seth says one fifty-five, one hundred and fifty-five thousand, Sarah says two hundred and fifty thousand, Randall says two hundred and fifty thousand.

• 56:12Speaker 06

  Oh, no.

• 56:13Speaker 04

  Spencer says two hundred and twenty thousand. I'm screwed. I did not write a second thing. Um, Reba says two hundred thousand and Sarah is not an overtime.

• 56:23Speaker 06

  One fifty-five.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  Corey says seven hundred ninety-nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine.

• 56:27Speaker 06

  A good old day. Okay, why don't Brody, like with, before we announce the number, why don't?

• 56:31Speaker 02

  We say which, like what the situation is.

• 56:34Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  Then have then have them guess again.

• 56:37Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. That is an excellent idea.

• 56:41Speaker 05

  Best idea all day.

• 56:41Speaker 04

  Wow, you you're pretty smart, man.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  I've I've heard a lot of these.

• 56:47Speaker 04

  Cause I I know I probably should have, but I just didn't. How how many do you write for each show, Spencer? Three?

• 56:52Speaker 06

  Uh, three.

• 56:56Speaker 04

  Well, maybe.

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Let's look. Can I can I see all?

• 57:02Speaker 06

  I find this inconceivable.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Seth, what did you? Hundred fifty five thousand. No, okay. Well, I'll I'll just say it. Sarah Sarah and Randall are are the closest and they wrote the same. They wrote the same number.

• 57:14Speaker 04

  They have the same number. They're both the closest.

• 57:16Speaker 06

  Sarah wasn't in overtime.

• 57:21Speaker 06

  She should have been.

• 57:24Speaker 04

  Hundred bucks or something, right, Spencer?

• 57:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, if you got to write them, no, it's two hundred dollars.

• 57:29Speaker 04

  They just tied. It's not on the nose. So confused.

• 57:35Speaker 02

  Too much credit.

• 57:36Speaker 06

  It's really coming apart here.

• 57:39Speaker 04

  All right, Randall wins.

• 57:43Speaker 04

  The answer is two hundred. I'm sorry.

• 57:45Speaker 02

  I forgot Sarah wasn't in the game. I'm sorry, Sarah.

• 57:47Speaker 04

  The answer is two hundred and seventy three thousand, four hundred and fifteen animals. Mild winters and a good spring and good spring precipitation have brought numbers up from the all time low of two hundred and forty eight thousand, five hundred. Uh, which was just not that long.

• 58:03Speaker 06

  All time low was what?

• 58:05Speaker 04

  Two forty eight, five hundred. The, uh, but the mule deer population is still nineteen percent below the long term average of three hundred nine thousand animals. In two thousand seventeen, the historical peak was recorded at three hundred and eighty six thousand animals. So they're coming back from from some problems, but we still got some work.

• 58:26Speaker 06

  Last winter was a good start for them.

• 58:28Speaker 04

  Yep, yep. All right. Congratulations, Randall.

• 58:31Speaker 06

  Way to go, Randall. You did it. I was flabbergasted that it could have been exactly between two hundred and fifty K and one hundred and fifty.

• 58:40Speaker 02

  I just did that math in my head.

• 58:43Speaker 06

  He he landed on that quickly. Let's, uh, let's give this to muley fanatics.

• 58:50Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 58:50Speaker 06

  Mule deer question. And I think that's a new one.

• 58:53Speaker 04

  Sounds good. All right, folks. Join us next week for more meat eater trivia. The only game show where conservation always wins.

• 59:00Speaker 06

  Good batch of questions, Brody.

• 59:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota. He's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down.

• 59:19Speaker 04

  And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks.

• 59:23Speaker 04

  And he's an avid amateur.

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