Nikki Glaser: Foreplay, Fetishes, & Face Lifts

Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Nikki Glaser. The girls reflect on their best sex conversations from their early careers, unpack Nikki’s favorite fetishes, and get real about plastic surgery and comment culture. Enjoy!

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 2:13Alex Cooper?

  What is up Daddy Gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

• 2:22Alex Cooper?

  Nikki Glaser, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  Thank you so much, Alex.

• 2:25Alex Cooper?

  Girl, I don't even know where to start. You've had like a crazy couple of years. You have become a household name after I feel like the Tom Brady roast. It felt like your life changed forever.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was it.

• 2:36Alex Cooper?

  Then you have hosted the Golden Globes twice. You just signed up to do a third one.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 2:40Alex Cooper?

  You have a new special coming out.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 2:42Alex Cooper?

  You've been busy.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  So busy.

• 2:44Alex Cooper?

  Congratulations, though.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:46Alex Cooper?

  But how are you feeling?

• 2:47Speaker 01

  When it's like you work for so long and then when finally people start asking you to do stuff, you like can't say no because it's always ingrained in you early on. Like, don't turn down anything because that's how you get good. And so it's like, I just have to say yes to everything because you also are like, you know, you look at other people's careers and like they have this, um, you know, people will have a pop and even the most famous people in the world go through a dip and you just think like, okay, that dip is just coming. So I just gotta do as much as I can now while people like me.

• 3:12Alex Cooper?

  Isn't that such a weird fucking feeling? You're like, stay relevant at all costs.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  At all costs.

• 3:17Alex Cooper?

  But then you're like, am I a whore? Like, where do I draw the line?

• 3:20Speaker 01

  You feel like it sometimes and you also feel like, like, and then sometimes people go, because I always tell my team like, hey, let's just enjoy this because it's not always going to be this great. I hope you guys like stay with me through like the leaner years. And they're like, no, it's never gonna fade. And I'm like, name one person whose career hasn't taken a dip. Like, I'm talking about any, there's even the biggest stars in the world.

• 3:41Alex Cooper?

  Don't lie to my face.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  You have, it has to be that way. There's going to be ebbs and flows.

• 3:46Alex Cooper?

  It does have to be that way, but you're not in a lean moment.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  I don't need to worry about it yet, I don't think. I think I got a couple of years.

• 3:52Alex Cooper?

  You're thriving.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah.

• 3:53Alex Cooper?

  Um, I didn't know this until I started researching you, that you're from St. Louis.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:58Alex Cooper?

  And then you moved to LA and then you moved back to St. Louis.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Like after, so I went away to college and like started doing comedy and realized, oh, that's what I want to do. And by the time I, you know, my senior year of college, I got on Last Comic Standing, which was like the American Idol for comedians. And I was like, you know, I just got to the semifinals, but I was like, this is enough to like move to Hollywood. So after college, I was, I did LA, then I went to New York, then I went back to LA, then I went back to St. Louis a little bit, then I went to New York, then I went to back to LA. So I was always kind of jumping LA and New York. And then COVID hit and I was like, I'll just go back to St. Louis and like hang out with my family. And then I just stayed.

• 4:29Alex Cooper?

  How does your family feel about you being in St. Louis?

• 4:32Speaker 01

  They love it. They love it. Like, they're, we're so close and they... They and I'm on the road all the time. So I'm constantly going out and flying here to shoot something and coming back. So it's like always fun to just get back with them on like a Monday or Tuesday and like kind of rehash what I just did.

• 4:48Alex Cooper?

  You're not really giving Missouri.

• 4:50Speaker 01

  Thanks.

• 4:51Alex Cooper?

  Like you're, is that, I mean, is that a compliment?

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Well, based on what most people think Missouri is like, thank you. But based on what I know it's like, like, fuck you.

• 4:58Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  No, St. Louis is like, St. Louis is cool.

• 5:03Alex Cooper?

  What is the best and worst thing of like St. Louis?

• 5:05Speaker 01

  I would say the best thing is just the, um, the chill factor and like just feeling like, you know, it's just like where I grew up, just being familiar with it and people are being, people are really nice in the Midwest. Like I get that a lot when people are like, you are so nice. And then they find out St. Louis and they go, everyone from St. Louis is so nice. And so I really like that St. Louis is known for like, nice people.

• 5:25Alex Cooper?

  It's also interesting that you just said that you're like, everyone's like, oh my God, you're so nice because meeting you today, like you are, I can tell your vibe, but I've only ever watched you on your fucking specials and your roast. So I'm like, not that I think you're an asshole, but you're so known for like roasting people that it didn't even like cross my mind to be like, oh my God, Nikki Glaser is like this like nice person. And like, oh, you are.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  I really do, I like, it's weird to be like, I'm so nice, but I do pride myself on being a nice person. I think it's like a, a, something that I would, if I pass someday, I want to be remembered as nice more than any other thing, more than popular, more than talented, more than funny, like just nice because I think, I don't know, I just really take pride in that for some reason. And I do feel like I'm really nice and it, it does like juxtapose so crazily with how I am on stage and especially roasting. Like I feel like the roasting stuff comes from like a place of like, the way I feel about myself. Like I have low self-esteem and so like, I am, I bully myself so hard that I am able to do it to other people because I'm able to do it to myself. So I think that's where I kind of, when I think about what I'm going to write about people, I'm like,

• 6:33Speaker 01

  what would devastate me if I was this person?

• 6:34Alex Cooper?

  I was gonna say, I remember reading somewhere where you were like, I just think about like, if I'm in a room and someone's gonna roast me and I'm like, please don't say that one thing. And then they say it, like that's where you're coming from, which is great.

• 6:44Speaker 01

  That like devastates them.

• 6:45Alex Cooper?

  But I think this is good. This is like good PR. Let everyone know, like, you're not an asshole.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  No.

• 6:50Alex Cooper?

  You're good at roasting, but you are a nice, sweet Midwest lady.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:54Alex Cooper?

  You being from the Midwest, also, I can't help but think, because I know your guy is from the Midwest, right? What is a Midwest man like?

• 7:01Speaker 01

  Love sports, wholesome. I mean, like, I, I think every guy, like, just, I like, I like a guy that, um, I don't know, like, kind of a little bit, um, like, college-y, immature, preppy, like, I don't know, it's good. You kind of are, I think you're attracted to whatever you were attracted to in high school. And for me, like, the popular boys were, like, played soccer, lacrosse, like, preppy, like, white hats, like, you know, like, I don't know, I think it's just a good smile, I don't know.

• 7:30Alex Cooper?

  I love how you just said, you're like, I, the, like, you know, like, the immature, like, frat boy, I'm like, all of us are like, yes, but also, like, we're, we've tried to move away from that.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  We're working on it.

• 7:41Alex Cooper?

  Thank God I didn't marry the guy that I was attracted to in high school.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Is he some version of it, though? Like, can you see, like?

• 7:46Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, but.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  Is he, like, an elevated version of that? A more evolved?

• 7:53Alex Cooper?

  Maybe I took it a little too far in high school.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Okay, so you, you, you OD'd.

• 7:57Alex Cooper?

  I, I.

• 7:58Speaker 01

  On that kind of guy.

• 7:58Alex Cooper?

  But, like, basically.

• 7:59Speaker 01

  That's the best thing to do, like, burn out and be like, I can't do it anymore.

• 8:03Alex Cooper?

  And be like, I'm done.

• 8:03Speaker 01

  Just, like, disgust you, the thing that you once were addicted to.

• 8:06Alex Cooper?

  Did you see this season of Love is Blind?

• 8:09Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I did.

• 8:09Alex Cooper?

  In Ohio.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh, yeah.

• 8:12Alex Cooper?

  So, like, that, to me, is like, a Midwest man.

• 8:15Speaker 01

  Yes, I think so, too.

• 8:16Alex Cooper?

  And they, I think that they thought that Ohio was going to be, like, this is going to be so fun. And I remember Nicholas Shea in the reunion being like, I'm mortified that you guys are representing me as an Ohio boy, because I guess he's from Ohio.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:28Alex Cooper?

  And that Midwestern man, like, didn't come through as a gentleman.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, but would you ever do Love is Blind if you were, like, a regular girl? I was thinking about that, like, like.

• 8:37Alex Cooper?

  No, would you? Because you were gonna.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  I think I would.

• 8:39Alex Cooper?

  You were, because you said if they were, if I was single, you would.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  You know, I would, I would be really, because I am, I, this is the thing that I don't like about that show, is that they, they go. You know, like this would have worked, but I have a type. And it's like, well, if you have a type, you don't go on Love is Blind.

• 8:52Alex Cooper?

  No, Love is not blind.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  But that's not for you then. If you, if you were someone, and by the way, your type, clearly it hasn't worked for you. So maybe let go of your type.

• 9:02Alex Cooper?

  Don't you think though, the only people that work is yes, if there was love, but then they actually like, oh, and I am attracted to the person. They're like, fuck, yes, I got lucky. The people that work, and so it's, it's not blind.

• 9:12Speaker 01

  It's not blind. We've determined that. And it's

• 9:15Alex Cooper?

  But it's still fun. It's great.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  But it's still fun. And I do, like, you would, you can just hear if someone's hot. Like, I feel like most of the time, it's really rare where someone's like, really taken aback by what they get. I feel like there'd be clues. Or like, just a voice. I think that's important. That's why I think like, I guess Hinge has like, where you can leave a voice message, you can hear their voice, because voice is huge. People don't think about voice.

• 9:38Alex Cooper?

  That's a good point. No one's ever been so taken aback.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  I, yeah, that would be my biggest, that would be my biggest fear is like the wall parts. And he's like, and then you see their face kind of sink and they're kind of like gently touching you.

• 9:50Alex Cooper?

  But you've got a good voice, so you'd get far.

• 9:52Speaker 01

  Okay, thank you so much.

• 9:53Alex Cooper?

  Okay, we both started our careers kind of talking about the same topic.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:58Alex Cooper?

  Which was sex. And we talked a lot about sex.

• 10:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:01Alex Cooper?

  Was that extremely intentional for you in the beginning?

• 10:04Speaker 01

  You don't know. I think it was like, what was easiest for me. It was like the thing I wa- what like, felt like I wanted to talk about. Is that for, the same for you? Like

• 10:13Alex Cooper?

  It was at the forefront of my brain.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  It was what I was interested in.

• 10:15Alex Cooper?

  Every day.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  And people would always, you know, people often dismiss female comics because all they do is talk about their vaginas and sex and it's so easy. And I go, it's easy for me to talk about that because, but why would you want me to do something that's not easy? Do you want to see Paul McCartney play pickleball? Or something that's hard for him? Don't you want to see him do what's easy for a, you know, a musician to play? Why do you want me to talk about something that's, do clean material, which would be hard for me to do? I don't know why, just at that time in my life. And I always said, as soon as I'm not interested in sex, I'll stop talking about it. And I kind of have, as I've gotten older and my libido is like, kind of taken a dive, I, I do talk about it less. Like, it's become less and less a part of my act. And, um, and so I stayed true to that. But

• 10:59Speaker 01

  it's, I just want to talk about what I'm interested in. And no one talked about sex when I was coming up. No one talked honestly about sex. So. To like it was I grew up before podcasting. I would have been all over podcasts, listening to girls talk like conversation, have conversations, frank conversations about what it's like to have sex. And so when I first started doing comedy, I was just like, I want to talk about this thing that I've been so scared of. I didn't have sex till I was 21 because I was scared. I didn't know what I was gonna be bad at it. I was scared it was gonna be bad about it. I was scared like, what do you do with a penis? What do they look like? Like, how do you even start kissing a boy? Like, my friends would just hook up and they'd be like, and we made out and we, you know, uh, he went down on me. And I'm like, but how do you even like, he walks in your room, then how do you make out? Like, who makes the first move? Does he put your hand on your shoulder?

• 11:42Speaker 01

  I wanted like the mechanics of it to be prepared and nothing prepared me for that. So when I was able to start talking freely about anything into a microphone, I was like, I'm gonna start telling girls like me who are scared, what's up in there?

• 11:54Alex Cooper?

  I think that is so fucking normal. And then some people are so like disturbed by the concept of you being so comfortable.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 12:02Alex Cooper?

  Speaking about sex, which half the time for me also, it made me more comfortable with sex the more I spoke about it.

• 12:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:08Alex Cooper?

  Some of the times I was even overly talking about it and I wasn't actually as confident as I was.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 12:14Alex Cooper?

  Presenting.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  Oh, no, me neither.

• 12:15Alex Cooper?

  But it made me more confident.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  Yes, it made me like, it made me feel like when I was having sex, it was almost like I was collecting data. To not like make fun of the person, but to just maybe make, maybe make fun of myself. Like, I felt like, I mean, I still like, sometimes during sex, I'm like, this is so weird what we're doing. It's so funny to me that we, like, just to, you know, the idea of going on a date with someone and you're just getting coffee and learning about each other, but it's really to determine if you're going to like lick each other's genitals pretty soon. Like, which is so crazy. That's where you like pee from. There's like pee and poo down there and we're gonna like put our mouths on it. Like, that was what like, in high school, I remember my friends started like blowing guys and I was like, you did what? Like, putting your mouth where

• 13:00Speaker 01

  a guy pees from? I couldn't even comprehend it.

• 13:03Alex Cooper?

  No, it's crazy.

• 13:04Speaker 01

  I cried. I couldn't, I thought my friends had like gone to the dark side. I didn't understand how you could do that. And, and it still fascinates me to this day that we get so animalistic, we get so horny that it makes us dumb enough to be like, I want to put my mouth down there. Yet I won't, wouldn't share a soda with a friend.

• 13:18Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  Because they might have a cold, but I'm gonna lick this guy's asshole. That's crazy. That's funny.

• 13:23Alex Cooper?

  The licking of the asshole, you're so right. It really takes it to another level where you're like, what's wrong with us? But everyone's doing it. Well, maybe not the licking of the assholes, but you know what I mean?

• 13:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, but like you, but that's what I learned. I used to have a bit about it that like I used to, the way I was able to initially have sex was I drank. Like I finally got drunk enough where I could get comfortable and feel at ease to like hook up with a guy because it was so scary to me. And then I quit drinking when I was 27 or something. I forget. It's been a while, but um, 2011, I quit drinking and I just stopped hooking up because I was like, I, I just couldn't do it. I was too nervous like, and then I realized that I have to get horny enough to get drunk brain. Because when you're horny enough, you're just like, like if you've ever hooked, guys get horny so fast, they act like cavemen. When they're, they'll go from like having a normal conversation and then they're like, so quick. And they're so gross and they're, but they, in their right mind, they would never make that

• 14:15Speaker 01

  face. If you were like, make a funny face. They would never even make that face because it's so humiliating. Yet they become that because their brain becomes stupid because their horny, their horny chemicals do exactly what drunk does to you. So you have to then to actually, for me to hook up, I would have to actually get horny, which was a foreign concept to me because I had never allowed myself to do it without alcohol getting in the way first.

• 14:37Alex Cooper?

  Well, and because half of the time when you're so young and if you are hooking up with boys, it's happening so quickly for them. And as a young girl, you're like, oh, I guess I'm supposed to be enjoying this. Meanwhile, like nothing is happening downstairs.

• 14:49Speaker 01

  Like shout out to all the girls out there that are hooking up for the first time. I, I'm talking like girls in their 30s sometimes who have not had an orgasm. I have a friend that was like, I don't think I've ever had an orgasm. And I was like, then you haven't because you would know.

• 15:02Alex Cooper?

  You would know.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  You would know. I used to be that way too of like, I, I mean, it feels okay. It feels good.

• 15:06Alex Cooper?

  Because he's not going to give it to you. You can't rely on him giving you your first one. Okay. You gotta find it yourself.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  You have to find it yourself.

• 15:13Alex Cooper?

  Because they don't care. They're going to be done before you even were starting to get in the mood.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Crazy how fast they get into it versus us. Like it is truly insane. Like I, and it there, I have done so many standup bits about foreplay and how important it is and almost like how hacky that is to even say like, ladies, I always felt like an Eighties comedian like we need foreplay. Men don't do for, because I would even hear about foreplay and women complaining about it before I ever had sex. And I was like, guys hate when you joke about that. Like, guys always go like, oh, foreplay, I have to wine and diner. And so I was always like, I'm not gonna be a woman that complains about that. But then you start having sex and you're like, how are you guys not just like rubbing over my jeans a little bit longer before you go in?

• 15:52Alex Cooper?

  Foreplay to them is a blowjob. And you're like, but I'm still, my pants aren't unbuttoned, Jeremy. Like, where am I in this equation?

• 15:59Speaker 01

  It's, it's like, please, any men who are listening, just like, bring back dry humping. Make her beg you to put it in. That's when you put it in. Cause she will when she's ready. But it's so awkward when they try before and you are not greased up. And you feel like insecure, like there's something wrong with me. I'm menopausal or something.

• 16:18Alex Cooper?

  I had a boyfriend once who like really couldn't do foreplay that he then like sometimes would take a shower after sex. And then I would like bring out my vibrator after and like do it to, and he's like fully gone thinking of the time of our life. And I'm like, all right, here we go. Because right as he was finishing, that's when I just started getting into it.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  It's, it literally, it happens, I'm not kidding you, like almost every time. Like, it is really rare we sync up. And I have a, you know, a partner that I'm able to communicate with and has seen my act a thousand times telling like, I need more. And like, I just, it's, but then you just, I think we're so conditioned, and I still am, is to like, a man has a boner, like do something with it. Like, don't inconvenience him when he has a boner. Like, he doesn't wanna like kiss your neck and like, whisper sweet nothings when he has a boner. Like, this is a, this is a problem we have to take care of right now. And I don't wanna make him feel uncomfortable. It's always so much about like, I don't wanna make men feel bad or angry at me or resentful of me.

• 17:13Alex Cooper?

  And I can see so many women listening to this and it's, it is so annoying that no one talks about that. We're like, I bet a majority of the women who are watching today, if they are in heterosexual relationships, they're like, yeah, I would say like the past like eight times I faked it, unless you're with a partner who's like, I'm gonna go down on you for 20 minutes. Then we're gonna get your vibrator out. Then we're gonna get in it. Like, bring toys into the bedroom, please God. Like, it's, men, I always say like, don't be threatened by it because it's like,

• 17:41Speaker 01

  Your dick alone is great, but your dick, like, is it, let's say your dick's a B plus. Like, in terms of just sex with just us, like, and if my vibrator alone is probably an A. But together, A plus. I can't get to the A plus with alone. I need your dick too. So you're contributing to the A plus. You need to be there to make it an A plus. Don't think it's just about the toy.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  But together, we can change the world. Like, together, like, toys need to be necessary. When women are having sex without toys, I don't understand it. And maybe it's, I'm dependent on it and like, I can't, if I didn't have a toy, I wouldn't be able to masturbate. I couldn't just do my hand. I don't know.

• 18:23Alex Cooper?

  Dark days where like, it dies and you're like, we gotta get through.

• 18:27Speaker 01

  Looking at your toothbrush and like, is that, can I use my pulsar or L B?

• 18:34Speaker 01

  I've done it.

• 18:34Alex Cooper?

  But I've been happy, like, I've tried with the fingers like a couple of times because it got so dark.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  Can you not?

• 18:40Alex Cooper?

  I've done it a couple of times where it was like, I really had to take my brain to an imaginative place. And I did it. But I don't choose that life and I don't claim that.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Couldn't do that. When girls are, I'm really, like, it's like speaking another language to me when I find out, like, you've ever found a friend, like, speaks fluent Spanish or Russian or something? You're like, what? Like, you're like, why haven't you been busting this out everywhere? Like, that's how I feel about women who can masturbate with her.

• 19:02Alex Cooper?

  But I feel like those are the girls that were fully having, like, squirting in orgasms in high school.

• 19:06Speaker 01

  And girls who were like, my friends were all masturbating in middle school and none of them told me about it. And I felt so betrayed by, like, you know, in my twenties, I finally was like, I started masturbating and they're like, oh yeah, I've been doing that since I was 11. I go, 11, why didn't, we talked about everything. Why didn't you tell me? I didn't even, it didn't even occur to me.

• 19:22Alex Cooper?

  We, I was the same as you. No one told me. And then in college, I was telling my friends, like, and, and I was like, oh. But I went to Catholic school.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  But did you not masturbate because of shame or were you?

• 19:38Alex Cooper?

  A little bit of both. I didn't know. I thought it was just sex. I didn't know there was masturbating. And then when I started to like, really understand, then I was like, oh, there's a thing called masturbating, but I thought it was only for men. So I didn't know there was like an option for women.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  I didn't either. And like, even if I would like, sometimes I would like, scratch my vagina, I'd be like, that feels good, but it was never good enough for me to like, keep going and figure that out. I just feel like I was kind of desensitized to my body. Although, one time I do remember, like, sitting on a railing. I still like, drive past the railing sometimes in St. Louis. It's on my friend's front porch, and it had like, like, one of those like, things that on top of the railing, that's like, a little bulb. And I remember like, sitting on it, and it like, went up my butt a little bit, and I was like, oh, that feels so, like, I remember feeling that, like, that feels good in a bad way. Like, you're, you're a sick person. Like, a butt plug. Like, it was like, a butt plug on the, like, we were waiting for our moms to pick us up, and I was like, I just remember, that was the only memory I have of having a sexual feeling that was like, that's naughty. Like, I just

• 20:35Speaker 01

  got a feeling from something in my butt, feeling good. Cut to me, like, love anal sex.

• 20:42Alex Cooper?

  I do. I was gonna say, I feel like that was like, a little precursor to like, what was to come for you.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  It was foreshadowing, for sure.

• 20:47Alex Cooper?

  I'm also dying at you and your friends and their mom, wondering why, why every time does she come to our fucking house? She's like, sitting her fucking ass on top of our fucking...

• 20:56Speaker 01

  I'm just like, alone out there. She's not even home.

• 21:08Alex Cooper?

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• 21:49Alex Cooper?

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• 22:34Alex Cooper?

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• 23:16Alex Cooper?

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• 24:01Alex Cooper?

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• 24:45Alex Cooper?

  So everything is in one place for the daddy gang. So, ready to add entrepreneur to your list of accomplishments? Head to Shopify.com/daddy. That's Shopify.com/daddy. I love how also I brought this up more to say, like, we both don't talk about sex as much anymore. And then we were like, let's just fucking go.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  Let's just go. Because I don't really talk about it as, I don't know, it's just, I've gotten it shamed out of me being in the business.

• 25:09Alex Cooper?

  I know.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  The more popular you get, the more you have to kind of like tone it down and be more like TV friendly, even when you're doing things that aren't censored.

• 25:19Alex Cooper?

  I know.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  To like, be like, if I want, if Golden Globes won't want to have me back, I can't be talking about anal all the time. But it's like, I'm not saying kids go out and do anal, you know, like, it's just something that I think.

• 25:29Alex Cooper?

  It is. And I do think we're both lucky, though, that we did it in the beginning of our career. We're like, I do feel like I'm tapped out. Like, I can't.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  I do too.

• 25:36Alex Cooper?

  I'm like, I'm having fun with you right now because I can tell we're both on the same page.

• 25:40Speaker 01

  We're reminiscing about our old days of like, I'm bringing up bits I used to do like 20 years ago.

• 25:46Alex Cooper?

  No, it's fun, but it's like, it's not at the forefront of my brain or my brand anymore. But I did, okay, I did get some quotes from both of us from our OG days.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Stop.

• 25:57Alex Cooper?

  And I want you to tell me if it's a quote from me in the early days of Call Her Daddy, or do you think you said it in an OG like standup routine?

• 26:05Speaker 01

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 26:05Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, because I do forget so much of what I said.

• 26:08Alex Cooper?

  Trust me, me too. I had my team pull this and some of these, I was in shock that I said this. Okay. Number one, I just want to be a whore.

• 26:18Speaker 01

  I think that's me.

• 26:19Alex Cooper?

  That's so you.

• 26:20Speaker 01

  I feel like it was just like, sometimes I, I don't, yeah, I do relate to that. Like, I just, I like to, um, I don't want someone to look at me like a whore when I'm like walking down the street, but like when I'm in the bedroom, I want a guy to be like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, I really like to let my whore flag, freak flag fly in the bedroom.

• 26:38Alex Cooper?

  The way you were just so proud, you're like, that's me.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  I didn't talk.

• 26:44Alex Cooper?

  That's me.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  So proud.

• 26:46Alex Cooper?

  I'm like, don't even think that's you for a second. I'm sure we could find somewhere that you've said that.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  Without a doubt.

• 26:51Alex Cooper?

  No, no, but that was so you. Okay, that was you. Okay, I'm feeling light, tight, easy, breezy, beautiful vagina.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  Okay, at first I was thinking that was you and then I was like, I, I feel like I often put in the, like, the CoverGirl tagline to things, so I'm gonna say it's me.

• 27:09Alex Cooper?

  We are the same person, it's me.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  What?

• 27:11Alex Cooper?

  Dude, it's me.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 27:13Alex Cooper?

  No, no, no, easy, breezy, beautiful, I do the same thing, it's me.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 27:18Alex Cooper?

  See?

• 27:19Speaker 01

  I would have bet so much that was me.

• 27:20Alex Cooper?

  It's pretty good.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Do you remember what you were referencing?

• 27:23Alex Cooper?

  I just remember, I do remember saying that one on Call Her Daddy, I have no idea why I was saying it.

• 27:28Speaker 01

  Context, yeah.

• 27:29Alex Cooper?

  But it's like, it's such a girl thing to say.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  Like, easy breezy, read it again?

• 27:33Alex Cooper?

  I'm feeling light, tight, easy, breezy, beautiful vagina.

• 27:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, so you're just having a good vagina day.

• 27:40Alex Cooper?

  I was feeling so good.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  And some days, they're not, like, there's...

• 27:43Alex Cooper?

  Oh, well, next one, ready?

• 27:46Alex Cooper?

  The cobwebs have formed and my pussy feels like it's shown, sewn shut. The next time I have sex, I'll be a born again virgin.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  You.

• 27:54Alex Cooper?

  What the fuck was I on? When my team pulled this quote, I was like, the cobwebs have formed, it feels like it's sewn shut, and next time I, no.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  It got too tight, you were tight, tight and light, easy breezy, and then it got so tight, it got sewn shut, and cobwebs had formed.

• 28:13Alex Cooper?

  When I'm rereading these things, I'm like...

• 28:16Speaker 01

  No, that's, these are fucking funny.

• 28:18Alex Cooper?

  This next one, it sounds like it would be you, but it is me, but now after that context, I said, put it in the ass, so I know what we're working with.

• 28:25Speaker 01

  Wait, you said that?

• 28:26Alex Cooper?

  I said that, but it feels like you would say that, now no, you like ass.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  It does, it does sound like I would, I, I think I already know what I'm working with by the time I say that, but I... You must have been referencing someone else or something.

• 28:37Alex Cooper?

  Without a doubt. I think I also just did it to like rage bait people. Like I didn't like anal and I would always just be like, put it in my fucking ass like da da da. Cause I thought people thought it was just funny. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like, and people would get so mad about that shit.

• 28:49Speaker 01

  People get so mad about stuff. It's like, you don't have to do it. And also it's like, I just, yeah, I mean, I could go on and on about that.

• 28:58Alex Cooper?

  Okay, this one's you. Oh wait, no, I'm not supposed to tell you that. Oh, yeah. Okay, well, I'll read it to you.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 29:03Alex Cooper?

  I swear to you, you can squirt. I didn't think I could. And now I know I can do anything.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was me. And I haven't since that joke, I don't think. Cause it's like, it's not like I can control it. It just has, it has happened a couple of times.

• 29:17Alex Cooper?

  And you were like.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  By my own hand, I will say. It was always my own creation. I don't want to give anyone else credit for that.

• 29:23Alex Cooper?

  That is so important to clarify.

• 29:24Speaker 01

  It's, it's been, it's been, it's happened where you're just like, has that ever happened to you?

• 29:28Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  I'm sorry to pry. But like, I don't know if we're there yet.

• 29:30Alex Cooper?

  This is a safe space? No.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  It, it, it, I think it happened one or, I think one time that I can remember, maybe another time, but it was, it was insane. Like you literally feel like you spilled a glass of water.

• 29:41Alex Cooper?

  I thought that once and I just peed myself. Yeah. Cause you're like, oh.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  It might have.

• 29:44Alex Cooper?

  And sometimes men are so stupid. Like you could pee a little and they'd think it was.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. That's, that's smart.

• 29:49Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You can fuck with their heads.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  My water broke.

• 29:53Alex Cooper?

  They'd also believe that. Um, they're so fucking stupid. Okay. I have a vagina that resembles a hastily packed suitcase.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  That's me. What? I mean, that was just a joke about like, how I have like lips. And like, sometimes when you like shut a suitcase, when you're in a rush, there's like stuff hanging out of it. And so that was just a, um.

• 30:13Alex Cooper?

  It's good.

• 30:14Speaker 01

  That's, that's a descriptive, uh, way of describing, that's a way of describing my vagina that has haunted me forever. Like people always are like hastily packed suitcase. So it's like,

• 30:21Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  So, but it's, you know, it's, it's, it has good days and bad.

• 30:27Alex Cooper?

  It's stuck with you.

• 30:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's definitely, I shouldn't have shared that. Like people don't, but I, I keep doing it. And for some reason, I feel like it gives, it makes, you know, you make fun of the things that you're insecure about so that you can take control of them. So if you make fun of it about me, I gave you that. So you don't really get to like win.

• 30:45Alex Cooper?

  Like when people come after.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  My vagina. So like, shut the fuck up. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And anyone that has, no complaints. Like I, it's well reviewed.

• 30:53Alex Cooper?

  So now that we're done with sex, like, do you have any topics that you're really thinking of like exploring in the future for your career? Cause we got a long way to go.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  You know, like it's the stuff that I've been into, you know, I'm obsessed with like beauty and aging and what it means to be a woman and like how we are, um, how, just the struggle of like wanting to, you know, be your own person and like establish who you are on the inside and like that should matter, but also being like, well, a big part of any kind of brand, when you're in show business as a woman is like how you look and presenting fuckable and trying to get to both women and men, you know, like women like it when you look fuckable to men too. And then men will say, well, we don't like big lips and we don't like a lot of makeup. And it's like, well, the women and the gays do, and they are determining what is marketable.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  And so we're trying, like it's, I'm very fascinated by, you know, psychology and sociology and, and, and, but also just beauty in general. I think it's fascinating.

• 31:54Alex Cooper?

  Well, it's fascinating because yeah, you kind of can't win as a woman.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  No.

• 31:59Alex Cooper?

  And there is obviously such a double standard that's like, it's tired of talking about at this point, but it's like for women and our bodies and our looks, it's just such a fixation that you constantly are trying to pivot because you don't know where to meet. And when you are in this industry, you do have to kind of appease the people to some degree.

• 32:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:19Alex Cooper?

  Or you just have to lean out and be like, I'm just going to be completely fucking railroaded by everyone and told I'm like an ugly fuck if you don't give, if you don't try. And then they're like, she doesn't care about herself. So you're like, where do I? Or if you're trying too hard, or if you're getting too much done.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  Yep. You like, and then there's, you know, people will always point to like, well, Pam Anderson doesn't wear makeup anymore and everyone loves it. It's like, well, we love that as a reaction to what she used to be. Like if she came out of the gates like that, we wouldn't know who she is, no offense. She's, we should, she's an amazing talent, but that is, we love that because it was a reaction to that. And then people will always cite some woman who doesn't wear makeup and say, you know, I, I, I had a joke about, you know, people would say, well, you're a comedian, like you don't need to be hot. Like you, why do you care? About looking hot and I'm like, well, I'm a, I'm a brand too. And also I like being on TV and I know what T I'm smart and I know what works on TV. And people would say, but you're like Joan Rivers. Like you don't need to be pretty. And I'm like, Joan would be so fucking offended by that, by the way.

• 33:17Speaker 01

  Joan was so smart, one of the best joke writers of all time, best comedians of all time. And she was obsessed with her looks, obsessed because she knew that's what mattered. And she felt ugly coming up and she would make fun of her looks and that people think she's ugly because she would call herself ugly and they, and, and they felt like they could. And my joke was like, I do want to be Joan Rivers because I plan on dying on an operating table too, which she did. She died going undergoing a procedure, a medical procedure. And to stay, to look younger, it was on her, you know, vocal cords, but it was like about appearing younger and it's, it is important, unfortunately.

• 33:47Alex Cooper?

  I want to read a quote too, because another female comedian, Ali Wong, said about you. She said, "For the longest time, we were led to believe that physically showing any sort of sexiness was going to work against you in standup. She's pulling off what some of us might have thought was impossible. And she's talking about you."

• 34:04Speaker 01

  I love.

• 34:05Alex Cooper?

  Do you agree with that?

• 34:06Speaker 01

  That is so nice. I would, would say, I'm not trying to be like a trailblazer of like, women can be sexy and funny. I just, I like, I like pretty girls on TV. I always wanted to be one of them and I wasn't in high school. Like I always like, aspired to that. And so it's just, when I have the ability to dress up and hire stylists who can elevate me and glam teams to like, make me the best looking version of myself. Why wouldn't I utilize that? Like, it's kind of fun. But I will say that, um, I, you know, the first comedian that I saw that I was like, I want to be like her was Sarah Silverman. And what I loved about Sarah Silverman was that she was stunning. She was so pretty and like every guy I knew was like, I fucking love her and like wanted to bang her. She was adorable. She was so approachable to women too.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  She was so pretty, so stunning, so cool and, and nice seeming, but she also said horrible things and like really dirty, crass, uh, like things, but she also had this likability. And I was like, I'm really attracted to that where it's like, you can, you can look a certain way, but the, the stuff that comes out of your mouth is almost, you get away with more because of how you present. Not that it was ever intentional, but I, I, I, I always, you know, I, I have to admit like it. It was important. I never felt pretty when I was young and it was always something that bothered me that I felt it was unfair and unjust that my sister was the pretty one and I wasn't and I really resented it and I have a complex about it. And so it's something that when I have the

• 35:35Speaker 01

  means to do so, I pursue. I'm not doing everything I can. I'll tell you that. Like, there's a lot of stuff I'm not doing.

• 35:41Alex Cooper?

  Okay, hold on. Because you, yes, you have been so open about what you, like, some of the things that you've gotten done. What is on your wish list?

• 35:48Speaker 01

  I mean, a facelift for sure is going to happen in the next, you know, two to five years, like, without question, because I mean, I went, I went the other day, I got a little filler in my upper lip, and I haven't done filler for a while. I do Botox filler and stuff, you know, every year, six months, you know, Botox more regular, but, um, and he was just like, can I just show you some, like, stuff that I would maybe, like, I didn't even ask. I've gone in for the facelift consult before to multiple doctors and seen what they could do. But he was showing me some stuff and I was like, that's pretty great. Like, it's, it's, it just takes 10 years off your face. It's not that noticeable. The problem is, is the recovery. Like, I just, I don't, I think it's not talked about enough. Women are just like, yeah, she got a facelift. And I'm always

• 36:31Speaker 01

  like, she went, she had to be off camera for months and months and had to stay inside and had drains in her face. It's painful. Like, it's, that's the part that I'm like, yikes. Like,

• 36:40Alex Cooper?

  No, you're so right. Everyone's talking about facelifts nowadays because it's like, get rid of the filler, get rid of the Botox, just get the facelift. And I'm like,

• 36:46Speaker 01

  They don't talk about the recovery at all. Like, even people have done it. I'm always like, tell me about the recovery. And they kind of, it's almost like childbirth. They kind of forget the pain of it, and they go, just do it. And you, but I, I recently, someone really close to me just went through one, and it is brutal, brutal. And is, and, you know, I was hanging out with someone who had a facelift two years ago, and she's like, oh, my face is still numb all over here. I can't feel anything. I mean, she looks stunning. But it's like, there's, it's super risky, too. I'm, I always look at people who have face work. I'm never like, oh, they, like, I've never been one to judge any woman that's done face work. If anything, I'm like, she's so brave. Have your face cut open and it might not look good.

• 37:24Alex Cooper?

  But even you hearing all these things, do you think you're gonna do it?

• 37:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, because I'm gonna pick someone that is like never failed and has done all the women that you just.

• 37:33Alex Cooper?

  I know who you're talking about, I think.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, there's a couple of them, but I know what who we're both thinking of. And you pick the guy who it's this new thing that has happened with face work in the past. I would say two years, two or three years where it's just an actress that has been around. For like fifteen, twenty years and she's always been pretty, but some something happened and a red carpet and you go. I never realized she was a supermodel. People like don't even think because it looks so.

• 37:58Alex Cooper?

  It's so natural.

• 37:59Speaker 01

  Stunning and natural. People just go, I guess I've just been missing the boat on this one. And then they go, you know, I gotta take whatever probiotic she's taking.

• 38:06Alex Cooper?

  That's a facelift, babe.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  It's always a facelift. And that's why it's so funny to me when people go, don't get face work. It's gonna look horrible. I'm like. But you it. That's a bias that you have because you're only noticing the bad stuff because you don't notice the good stuff. You just think she's drinking more water.

• 38:19Alex Cooper?

  It's so fucking true.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  Because they have to lie because if they tell you the truth, they'll get shamed for it.

• 38:24Alex Cooper?

  Completely.

• 38:25Speaker 01

  You know, um, it it having a face that is manicured in that way is just a status symbol of I'm wealthy. So that it's not a way to show people you're beautiful or fuckable. It's to show people I have money, even a fucked up face. I have. It's a way to. It's like a car.

• 38:42Alex Cooper?

  I have money.

• 38:42Speaker 01

  It's the new status symbol to not have a normal face is to tell people I have money, which is very important in our society. Now to just promote how wealthy you are, and that's the new way to do it.

• 38:53Alex Cooper?

  That is a really good point. Do you think there is a thing as botox blindness?

• 38:58Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. I mean, I think that.

• 39:00Alex Cooper?

  Because for botox, I feel like. Well, I guess I've seen it if people like pull it up too high, but I feel like those are like brow lifts. Like botox, I don't think like if you can't move your forehead, like who cares?

• 39:10Speaker 01

  It. I don't think it matters. I feel like when girls, there's so many girls, friends of mine from, you know, like high school and college who are just. They won't do anything because they're so scared. I'm like, it's like, girls, back in the 40s and 50s, people, women were so embarrassed to find out. To like reveal that they dyed their hair and botox is the new that it's like, it's not shameful anymore. We're all doing it. And it makes you look better and it is expensive, but it's it's. You would never imagine like having to hide that you got highlights, but that used to be a thing that women were ashamed of if they like. Did a box dye on their hair.

• 39:41Alex Cooper?

  And now it's like, who gives a fuck? Like, I remember, I remember girls will post online and be like, oh, my God, like I told my boyfriend I was getting botox and he started freaking out. And then I came home and he's like, when are you going to do it? And he's she's like, well, I did it like.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  And if a guy freaks out, they're just scared you're gonna leave them. They're fucking loser. They're insecure that you're gonna leave them because you're gonna be too hot. That is like such a red flag if guys like, no, you're beautiful the way you are. I get that and I do believe that some guys are like, I don't change your face. I love the way your face is, but there's a secret part of me that thinks when guys are like, don't get anything done is like, don't upgrade because I can only have you if you look this way and you would leave me if you could upgrade because I'm not good enough for you. It's so fucking true. And that's what's going on most of the time. Like, I always just see like, this is a separate issue, but like, you know, like, I've been in relationships like this before where you get really dressed up and the guy like, won't say anything and you know he notices, like you look stunning and you've just worked on it. It is because they, and I know so many girls listening right now have been through this where

• 40:35Speaker 01

  you're like, you put in so much effort and they, you see them see it and they don't say anything. They are not saying anything because they're insecure that if they build you up too much, you'll leave them and you'll have too much self-esteem and you'll do better than them. It is always that. Isn't that crazy? It's not that they don't think you look hot. At all. Or they might be like, what's that red lip? It's because they're literally threatened. I promise you. No, the red lip. It's never like they think something on you is, what's? Such a good point. Your spray tan's orange. No. And this goes for girls too. If anyone is ever insulting any beauty thing you get, they are threatened by it. And you have to remember they're jealous. Otherwise they wouldn't say anything. If they really didn't like it, what do you do when you don't like something that your friend is wearing? You don't call it out? No. You don't say anything. You talk about it, maybe your friend behind her back. It's, but it's. But you don't say it to her face.

• 41:19Speaker 01

  The only reason anyone ever insults you is because they like what you did and they're threatened. It's such a good fucking point. And you need to remember it because girls are always like, she said the meanest thing to me. And I'm like, it's not because your hair's busted. It's, it's not because you look bad, it's because she's jealous. Dude, a boyfriend like that can take you down. Down because you, like, you're looking to him for all your confidence because he has created a world in which no other men can compliment you. So he's your only source of getting any kind of positivity about your sexuality. Because if you posted a bikini pic on Instagram and guys commented, he would call you a whore or be jealous of that, so you can't search for it anywhere else. No, you're completely beholden to him. And your only person that's giving it to you isn't. And you feel like, I must be disgusting. And so then you're trapped in that.

• 42:13Alex Cooper?

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• 42:57Alex Cooper?

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• 44:21Alex Cooper?

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• 44:31Alex Cooper?

  Let's talk about your boyfriend.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:33Alex Cooper?

  Chris.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 44:34Alex Cooper?

  Um, you guys have been together for over a decade. On and off, though, right?

• 44:38Speaker 01

  On and off, yeah.

• 44:40Alex Cooper?

  Why have you guys been so on and off?

• 44:42Speaker 01

  Um, because I think if any couples being really honest, they would be on and off too. If you could really take a break from your husband, not you, but like in a general you, you maybe would, and we just do. Or at least I, I will call for one when I see it's necessary to like.

• 45:01Alex Cooper?

  How do you call for one?

• 45:03Speaker 01

  I just say like, I don't wanna, you know, do this right now anymore. Like, I'm not having fun in our relationship, you know? Like, when you're going through a phase of like, I don't really wanna be around this person. Like, and he will feel that way too. Like, it's, you know, I think, and also like, I, I didn't, he's like been my first boyfriend, like, ever. Like, I had some, like, stuff, we met when I was 29. And, and I'm 41 now, so he's been the only consistent thing. And I had some flings when we would be like, you know, in our off years. But he's my only, like, boyfriend, so there's sometimes that urge of like, what if I haven't experienced the, the best that I could have? And like, this is hard right now, so I just don't wanna do it. Can we just put this on hold? And like, and if we're meant to be, we'll come together, because we always do when we

• 45:47Speaker 01

  haven't found, found anyone else, or like, there isn't something better. Like, I don't know, I just feel like, I would like to be in a relationship that I could call off whenever I want and take a break and not have to like, keep in touch all the time and talk.

• 45:58Alex Cooper?

  But do you, when you take a break and you're like, okay, let me go see if I like, like, anyone else, have you ever then, like, gone on dates? And been like, it makes me miss him more, because this person is such a fucking loser in front of me?

• 46:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, like, I used to have a joke that was like, you know, we break up and then I date other guys, and then I look back at him, and I'm like, oh my God, he's the best I can do. And that's kind of what you realize sometimes is like, I thought I could do better, in, in whatever way, like, not looks-wise or whatever, but just like, he's not doing this for me, so I'm gonna find a guy that does this. And then you realize, oh no, he's lacking all these things that he had. So yeah, that has happened. I have definitely, we've, because we've been like, broken up before, not just like, a break. And I've, like, had other things. But yeah, it's like, we got back together, um, after being broken up for like, four years, because I moved back to St. Louis during COVID. He's also from St. Louis, and we were both back there, and we were like, let's just hang out, and then that just turned into.

• 46:47Alex Cooper?

  It worked out.

• 46:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:48Alex Cooper?

  How does he deal with, because even though he's a producer, like,

• 46:52Alex Cooper?

  You make some crazy jokes that are great jokes. Has there ever been one that pushed him over the edge where afterwards you guys get home and you're like, okay, this is?

• 47:00Speaker 01

  For sure. I think there's been, you know, I think there's been times for everyone in my life that's been close to me where they've gotten stung a little bit by something I've said that just was a little too honest and like, you know, I was watching Hacks last night and, you know, Jean Smart's character was like, said something that hurt her daughter's feelings. She was like, I don't know why it's so much easier for me to say this stuff to strangers than to the person that it's for. But sometimes I like would air out an anger thing that I was resenting and I put it in a joke. Not even thinking, I hope he hears this and he gets it, but it would just like, I would realize after the fact, he would be like, that one joke like kind of seemed unnecessary. And I'd be like, oh yeah, I think subconsciously I was trying to hurt your feelings. Like I would never do it consciously, but there's been stuff like that.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  But he actually kind of, you know, has always said, which is something I'd really admire about him is that if it's funny, you can do it. Like as long as it gets a laugh. If it doesn't, and you're just like,

• 47:52Alex Cooper?

  Being a dick.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:54Alex Cooper?

  How did he feel when you said that you would shoot him in the face for a chance to blow Tom Brady?

• 47:58Speaker 01

  He was there when that joke was written and I turned to him and I was like, is that okay? And he was like, yeah, it's great. And I was like, are you sure? And I was like, but I'm gonna like reference you and look at you and like do like a thing like, you're my boyfriend. I love you. And then I'm gonna shoot you in the face. And he was like, it's, he was like, let's try it out tonight. Like, you know, I was trying, he was like, and if it works, of course. Like, he didn't care at all because he knows.

• 48:21Alex Cooper?

  He's like, it's genius.

• 48:22Speaker 01

  And it's such a clear joke too. I think that's the other thing when something, that's the good thing about comedy is that even stuff that's real, that might be insulting to him. As long as it's getting a laugh, it's okay by his definition. But even if it's like his parents see it or his friends see it, there's always the guise of like, she's just joking. Like that thing that might be real, what I'm talking about, that's just a joke.

• 48:44Alex Cooper?

  It's a joke.

• 48:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:45Alex Cooper?

  Oh, that's a nice cover.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  It's always a cover.

• 48:47Alex Cooper?

  And that's good.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  And that, that is nice. And because sometimes it is a joke. Sometimes it's, you know, hyperbole, I'm exaggerating. But a lot of times I will say people think things are jokes and I'm like, that's absolutely true.

• 48:57Alex Cooper?

  You're like, that was 100% true.

• 48:58Speaker 01

  Or someone thinks it's real. And I'm like, that was so made up. Like obviously.

• 49:00Alex Cooper?

  Oh, you've got it made.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, yeah, there's, there's, but that's, that protects me for sure.

• 49:05Alex Cooper?

  Do you have a celebrity hall pass?

• 49:08Speaker 01

  Um, you know, I think like, you know, I think there's, as I'm like,

• 49:15Speaker 01

  I wouldn't want to say who it is because it would just like, I think that would actually be mean that it was eliminated because he would be like, well, that's you trying to make it happen. It has to happen naturally or something like that.

• 49:25Alex Cooper?

  Do you think you could hook up with this person?

• 49:27Speaker 01

  I think that I think he's a really good guy and he would, he was always said like, you know, especially after the Tom Brady rose and after my star kind of rose to these like new levels of like being around A-listers. He's like, if there is someone that you your whole life have like longed for and they want to fuck you, like you should, like that's too good. Like, and not that he wants that and he would get turned on by it at all. Like there's none of this like cuckold stuff. He's just like wants me to have the experiences that, and that is like, that's like asking someone to not collect their lottery winnings. Like it's so rare to get to where I am in life where that would ever happen and it hasn't happened and I wouldn't even want it to because like the circumstances in which it would have to happen. I'm like, well, could I DM them? He's like, no, you can't pursue it. It has to be like natural. I'm like, well, that's never going to happen for me. So.

• 50:11Alex Cooper?

  Have you ever met your hall pass?

• 50:13Speaker 01

  Um, I'm trying to think of the one. Yes, I have. And he is like married with kids, but he's like my hall pass from like my crush in like high school.

• 50:21Alex Cooper?

  Okay, okay.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  So there's one on my mind, but there's like probably another one that I would be like, oh yeah, but he would never be into me because of like age stuff.

• 50:30Alex Cooper?

  Younger or older?

• 50:32Speaker 01

  I don't know. But I'm, but I, but I like, um, in a relationship, I don't really care if my boyfriend were to hook up.

• 50:41Alex Cooper?

  Okay. I read about that.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:42Alex Cooper?

  We need to talk about that.

• 50:44Speaker 01

  But that is not a two-way street. Like I'm, I'm not someone who likes to hook up with, I'm in a relationship. I'm not really like, I don't really care about that. I, you know, but I don't care if someone else were to.

• 50:54Alex Cooper?

  Hold on.

• 50:54Speaker 01

  In fact, I like, kind of like it. It's kind of, it's a problem, I think.

• 50:58Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we need to talk about this. You told Howard Stern that commitment felt like admitting defeat or settling. Do you still feel that way?

• 51:09Speaker 01

  No, I don't feel that way anymore. I feel, um, no, I mean, there. Innately, it is settling. You do not know that the person you are with is the best person for you. You haven't, there's too many people on this planet. You haven't met on any of them. You never will. So you have to settle.

• 51:25Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 51:26Speaker 01

  There could be someone better for you. And statistically, there probably is. There's, you know, like, there is. The odds that you met the person out of eight billion people on the planet that's best for you are kind of low. But I, I, I do think that whoever you end up with, luckily, people end up in like, the top 10% of people who are most compatible for them in the planet, and that's like a win. But there's other people that would be good for you. And I don't believe in soulmates. And I do believe you have to go like, you know what? This is the best I can do right now. And I'm gonna just cash in my chips because I probably could do better, but who knows?

• 52:01Alex Cooper?

  How does Chris feel about that?

• 52:02Speaker 01

  He totally understands it. There's someone better for him, too.

• 52:05Alex Cooper?

  Do you think you're the love of his life?

• 52:08Speaker 01

  Hmm, no, no. I mean, I'm a love of his life, but I would not even, I just think that he has many loves of his life, probably. And that there's probably a woman that is so much more compatible for him than me, like, would be so much better, like, truly.

• 52:23Alex Cooper?

  And that doesn't hurt your feelings?

• 52:24Speaker 01

  No, I don't care at all because like, he's not gonna meet her. Like, what are the odds? And if he does, I would be like, be with her. Go to her. Because I want you to have the best life ever. And I don't want to stop you from find, and then I'll probably just have to go some, find someone that's better for me. But like, it would suck for me to see him have a connection with someone that I'm like, God, she would go hiking with him and she would go to Machu Picchu and all the shit I don't want to do. And like, she's also funny and cool and like, they're the same height. Like, that would be good. Like, and she, like, if I saw things that was a better compatibility, I wouldn't have a problem letting, I mean, it would be hurt, but it wouldn't be the end of my life.

• 52:59Alex Cooper?

  Do you think, though, that this is you being a very, very evolved, mature human being? Or does this fall in the category of like, kind of like, dark comedian shit? Where you're like, a little fucked up?

• 53:10Speaker 01

  And I want to be clear, it is not pick me. Because this comes off pick me of like, I don't care if my boyfriend fucks another girl. I'm cool with it. Cheat on me. Like, I'm, I know how lame it comes across. I sometimes don't like to tell guys about this thing that I have where I'm like, you know, this is separate than the soulmate thing. Like, I don't care if a guy has a sexual connection with a girl and like, he was to use protection and just have sex with her for a night. Like, I don't, I literally wouldn't care if my husband did that. I, I don't, I don't know why. I don't know why. If he were to like, watch The Wire with her, or like, Do crossword puzzles or like text up, but like send memes and stuff. I would be like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, that's our thing. Like emotional cheating would hurt me, but like

• 53:51Speaker 01

  physical, I'm just like, I kind of, I just feel like I understand how sex is for men most of the time outside of a relationship. It's just kind of transactional and it's just like, they just want a nut. And it's not about like, I want to spend my life with this woman. So it wouldn't feel, I just, I don't know. I just wouldn't care as much.

• 54:09Alex Cooper?

  So our barometer is no emotional cheating.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:12Alex Cooper?

  Totally physically cheating is good.

• 54:14Speaker 01

  But I understand emotional cheating. Like if something were to happen where I would want them to tell me about it, I would be obviously hurt, but I would understand being drawn to someone else that you have a good connection with because it's like, it's hard to, when you just find someone and it's monogamy, your brain doesn't turn off. He's still gonna be attracted to other women. He's still gonna like, be interested in other girls and have good conversations and stuff. So I could see something developing and I would be heartbroken that it happened, especially if it went on without me knowing about it. But I would, I would, I would always ask anyone I was with to be like, if you develop feelings for someone else, tell me and we'll deal with it. Like, I just don't want to be blindsided. But if you want to have sex with someone else, also tell me about it. Cause I want to like, see what she looks like and like, ask you about it.

• 54:51Alex Cooper?

  Okay, wait, hold on. So do you identify as like poly or like open relationship girlie?

• 54:56Speaker 01

  I don't want like another girlfriend. I don't want, and I don't want to like be in bed with you guys together.

• 55:01Alex Cooper?

  Okay, not even in the same room.

• 55:03Speaker 01

  No, I don't want to like be, and I don't want to be in the chair in the corner like cuckolded, like, you know, like watching my boyfriend fuck. I just want to hear about it later.

• 55:11Alex Cooper?

  Okay. You call this the hot husband fetish?

• 55:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 55:15Alex Cooper?

  Which is essentially when you want your partner to have sexual experiences with other people outside of the relationship.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:19Alex Cooper?

  So when did this start for you, Nikki?

• 55:21Speaker 01

  This started with my, my boyfriend when I was 29. Cause I really hadn't had a boyfriend before then. He would tell me about, um, like I would always ask him about like past hookups and girlfriends and how they got together. Like I was like the beginning, like, how did you guys first know you liked each other? Like, I love that like, our legs were touching on our table and neither of us moved our leg or something like, stuff like that. I'd be like, oh, so like, I don't know, it would make me like horny to like, think about him doing that with other girls. And then I would, so I'd ask about all of his like girlfriends or anyone he had hooked up with, like all the details about it. And I would really be like a foreplay for me. Like I would get like revved up talking about it. And then it reached a point where he was out of stories. Like he had gone through all of them. And I was like, and then it's almost like he was telling the same ones. And I was like, I know this one. So it wasn't as exciting anymore because I was getting the same stuff. So I was like,

• 56:07Speaker 01

  I know this is, I like, I had never heard of anything like this. I felt so weird, but I was like, I think I need you to like, get some more stories.

• 56:14Alex Cooper?

  You need new material, Chris?

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, I, I need you to like, go out there and just do, just have a flirty moment with someone, like anything where I can feel like, uh, maybe it's my competitive nature of like, I want a guy who other girls want. Like I, I like something that is like, you know, you want a handbag that other girls are like, oh my God, I'm dying to get that.

• 56:32Alex Cooper?

  That's relatable. That is relatable. Like I, like, I have experienced that, like masochism to a certain degree where I'd be like, tell me about every ex, tell me about all the things. Like that part of the beginning of the relationship.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  Were you like, I want to know because I hate this girl?

• 56:47Alex Cooper?

  No, it definitely like made me be like, okay, now I'm gonna like fuck you 10 times better tonight.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  Yes. Okay, yes.

• 56:52Alex Cooper?

  But, but then.

• 56:53Speaker 01

  It's like showing their value, that they are valued by other women. Cause I respect women. And women's opinions, I do.

• 57:00Alex Cooper?

  This all comes back to hating men.

• 57:04Alex Cooper?

  This whole thing is like, men are disgusting and they need to get their boners fixed immediately. And I don't really want to fix your boner, but I love women.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  I want my boyfriend to fuck other women because I just love women so much. I'm such a feminist.

• 57:15Alex Cooper?

  Hold up, this is, this is all about, this is not pick me, this is pure feminism. Hold on though.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  Thank you for getting to the root of it.

• 57:21Alex Cooper?

  So you then tell this to Chris and was he like, this is a trap, you're out of your mind?

• 57:26Speaker 01

  They, they always think it's a trick. Or like, like, you know, he was just, he knew that I was a sincere person and would, and wasn't the type of girl to like, I wasn't a jealous person up until this point. So I don't think he was like getting any of that vibe of like, she's just trying to test me. So it was like, are you serious? You really want that? Okay. Like, how should this happen? And like, and so I, I was like, you know what? If you do it and I don't like it, because I don't know how I'll feel. Like I've never done this before. So I don't know how I'll feel if my boyfriend, you're my first boyfriend ever. And so how will I feel if you have a flirty moment with other girls? So just like try it. And if I don't like it, we can stop. And just don't, just don't do, like, don't kiss her, but like, see if you, like, if you could. Like if you get to a place where you're like, maybe you even go, I can't, I have a girlfriend, like something like that.

• 58:11Speaker 01

  But I don't make her feel bad about it.

• 58:13Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  And don't make her feel like she's being, like, actually, you know, like, I was very careful to like, always let the girlfriend, girl know you have a girlfriend. So she's choosing to do this and just let her know that. That I'm okay with it. The way I'm picturing you having this fucking conversation with Chris. I remember it so well. And another thing. Um, and he's leaving. Wait, and one more thing. What if you also like, wear those jeans that I like? And what if you tell her? And he's like, oh, anything else? I remember it so vividly. It literally was like that. And I remember the first time anything happened, I did feel like a thing of jealousy came up where I was like, I think it was about I hadn't communicated that I need her to know that I exist. And I think I felt a little bit sad that maybe she thought there was something with this guy that wasn't gonna happen.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  And I've been that girl so many times, whether the guy's lying about having a girlfriend or he's like just casually dating someone. He's making it seem like it's not serious, but it, he just, that I, he's leading on and I don't have a chance. Yeah. Devastating. So I think that tripped me up a little bit, but I was kind of into it. I really was. Did he hook up with a girl? He's done some stuff. Yeah. He, he probably wouldn't appreciate me elaborating on that, but like, there's, there's been interesting things that have been like really fun for, for me to like hear about and experience and like, and fun for him too, because you know, you get older, he's 45 and I'm like, get out there, like get some, know that you're a sexual being again. Like sometimes I'm like too busy to be really sexy. So I'm like, out and get some attention. Does it freak you out to be open about this?

• 59:41Speaker 01

  Like, do you think people judge you guys? Um, yeah, every time I bring it up, I'm like, God, here she goes again. Like, cause women, I think women, I've never, I've, I have not yet. I maybe met one woman that felt this way, like exactly how I feel in my whole life. And I've talked about this extensively. So it's very rare for women to feel this way. And I feel like I wanna be very clear that I know that this is not how many women feel. And I'm not encouraging any other woman to do this, or I think this is like the right way to run your relationship. I think honestly, it probably is detrimental. I remember Dr. Drew telling me, like he, after he heard me say that I don't mind. He was like, I need you to look me in the eyes and repeat, I am enough. I am enough. And I'm like, no, it's not about that.

• 1:00:23Speaker 01

  I'm like, maybe it is, maybe I'm not enough and I feel like he has to have more, but it's, it's, it's, there's a probably a sadness to it, but I just, it's just what I'm into and I can't help it. And I'm not trying to be cool. I am, I believe me when I've been single, guys are not into this. It sounds like a dream, like, oh, I could date a woman and fuck other girls. Like, that sounds like a dream. Guys really like to be like, they like girls to be jealous and to like, kind of boss them around and like, I want you. Right, you're like, go ahead, have fun. They're kind of like. What like they don't like they think they like it but I assure you this isn't getting me guys like this.

• 1:00:56Alex Cooper?

  Interesting.

• 1:00:57Speaker 01

  It's never like been a pitch for me to be like, look how cool I am. Why don't you date me because you can do whatever you want.

• 1:01:02Alex Cooper?

  Go fuck other girl.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  It doesn't, they don't like it.

• 1:01:04Alex Cooper?

  Wait, what are your friends think about this?

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  They're used to it at this point. They're just like, they marvel at it because I have one friend who has, you know, been cheated on before. So she like experiences a lot of jealousy in her life and she has this like amazing husband who would fucking never cheat on her. Like we, we just, I just know that about him. He's like the most decent guy, but she still gets jealous about, you know, him hanging out with past girlfriends or like a therapist who's a little too touchy or stuff like that. And I go.

• 1:01:29Alex Cooper?

  Wait, hold on, a therapist that's being too touchy?

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, like just a creepy therapist, like definitely a therapist that I'm just like, get her out of his life, like immediately, but he's.

• 1:01:36Alex Cooper?

  So casually.

• 1:01:38Speaker 01

  It happens all the time.

• 1:01:39Alex Cooper?

  Like a, like a masseuse or like a literal therapist?

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  No, like a literal therapist.

• 1:01:43Alex Cooper?

  Wait, what?

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  This one friend, this is a friend of mine. She also went to a couples therapist one time and I wanted, I put this in a script once because it was so funny, but she was going to a couples therapist to like save her marriage and they divorced eventually, but this therapist was so into her husband. At one point, um, they, they asked her, the therapist asked her something and she's like, well, I don't know. Like my friend answered, like, I don't know. And the therapist just put her hand on his leg and goes, we just can't get through to her, can we?

• 1:01:58Speaker 01

  And they both had like a moment. I was just like, oh, so this is like, so anyway, this, this friend has had jealousy before and I said to my friend, I go, if you could make it so that no women were attracted to your husband, you slip your, stab your fingers and no woman on earth will ever be attracted sexually attracted to your husband, would you do it? And she was like, in a heartbeat, I would love that. And I was like, that would be my nightmare. Like that, that's.

• 1:02:32Alex Cooper?

  I would hate that.

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  I would hate that.

• 1:02:34Alex Cooper?

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:02:34Speaker 01

  She would love it because it would give her freedom to not have to worry about him being taken from her and.

• 1:02:39Alex Cooper?

  See, that though worries me because then that's also plays into insecurity of like, why are you so worried that your husband's going to get taken from you?

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:45Alex Cooper?

  Like I don't, I know that people think my husband is attractive and that I like.

• 1:02:51Speaker 01

  And you know that he's not.

• 1:02:52Alex Cooper?

  He's not running away.

• 1:02:53Speaker 01

  Worried about it. He's an off leash dog.

• 1:02:56Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  You don't need to be like, no, stay with me. You're just like, hey, come over here.

• 1:03:00Alex Cooper?

  Let's go.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  He can go smell a bush, but you're like, and he'll like come right to you. Like there's nothing cooler than an off leash dog. And that's what I want in a boyfriend is like, I know I'm the master. Like if my boyfriend were to like fool around with someone else, I would need that girl to know like. Do you know who's in charge, though? Like, who he's coming back to? And I would love to see you try to get him. I would love that, too, of like, oh, my god, she thinks she's gonna... Because I've been that girl before that's like, I... I'm gonna win this guy over who's dating, you know, like, and you don't win.

• 1:03:29Alex Cooper?

  You're so competitive.

• 1:03:31Speaker 01

  I think that's it. And I really, I wish I wasn't so much, because I always feel like that's a good negative trait in a woman. But I realize I am.

• 1:03:38Alex Cooper?

  It's okay.

• 1:03:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:39Alex Cooper?

  I actually really respect it. Um, speaking of your friends, you have a group chat with your nine best friends.

• 1:03:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:45Alex Cooper?

  All of these girls, though, you brought together, right? They came from like, different eras of your life. How did you merge them all?

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  I... So it's like my best friends since fifth grade, uh, fourth grade, my sister, um, my old podcast producer, uh, a comedian that I know, and my, my, uh, boyfriend's friend's ex-wife. Like, it's, I just collected all these girls that I just knew were cool as hell and funny, and we just would do, I would do girls' trips with certain groups of them, and then I would just be like, I think I want to add a girl to the girls' girls' trip, because she's like, down, and my friends just trust me. I've known them for my whole life, and they are all best friends now, all through me. Like, I've been the nucleus of this group, and we are constantly chatting 24/7. Like, they know I'm here, like, it's, it's the best, it's my most proud creation, is my girl.

• 1:04:33Alex Cooper?

  I was gonna say, like, that is, as you get older, it's so hard to have adult girlfriends in a large group capacity. Because it's like, sometimes you met someone in college, or sometimes someone's from childhood, and then someone's from, and to merge them.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  Merge them together, because they should be able to merge. You should be consistent with your friendships. They should all, like, fit a criteria of like, you know, like, sometimes we have friends that are like, good for just one-on-one, and like, we have friends for different things, but like, I, and, and girls are so desperate for girlfriends. It's really hard, especially in the Midwest, if you're working a desk job, to like, how, to meet people. I feel like I meet a lot of people, so I'm like, I'm so happy to give my friends, who might not meet these other interesting girls, like, new friends, and like, it's,

• 1:05:13Alex Cooper?

  That's incredible.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  It's the most fun. I like, I met a girl yesterday who I had lunch with, and I was on Girls Chat, like, I think I have a new girl for our, our girls' trips.

• 1:05:20Alex Cooper?

  What is the group chat's name?

• 1:05:22Speaker 01

  It's, it's just called Girls... Oh, no, it's called Angels Angels, because we went on a yacht one time that my friend got us, and the captain's name was Angel, and we were Angels Angels for the day.

• 1:05:41Alex Cooper?

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• 1:06:43Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions about the group chat.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:46Alex Cooper?

  What is a text that if it got leaked, you would get canceled? Or like, what's the content that you're speaking of?

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  Um, what was something that we, like, I would say, I would say just like making fun of people that have wronged us. Like going really hard and saying some really mean stuff that I'm like, that we have to sometimes start doing like a code name. Because it's like that, and it only would get canceled because people would be so shocked at how, like, they wouldn't be shocked at me because I roast, but like, I roast pretty hard in there, like, stuff that I would never say at like an actual roast.

• 1:07:21Alex Cooper?

  But it's a safe space.

• 1:07:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:23Alex Cooper?

  What is the most insane relationship advice that's ever been given in that group chat?

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  Oh, my friends, uh, thought she broke her husband's dick the other day.

• 1:07:31Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  And she said it was like, um... A train car pileup. She like sent a picture of like when a train derails and it's like and that was really funny. And we were all giving her advice about what to do for that because he was like, I don't want to get it checked out. Like he was so embarrassed. And she was like, I heard it snap. I think it broke his dick and

• 1:07:48Alex Cooper?

  What the fuck do you break a man's dick?

• 1:07:50Speaker 01

  It like slipped out and she like went in and it like went against her stomach and like was like, but you can do it. She like Googled it and it was, so we gave her advice about like telling him to go get it looked at, but he never did. I guess it's fine.

• 1:08:02Alex Cooper?

  It's gonna repair itself.

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. So there was a lot of

• 1:08:04Alex Cooper?

  That's amazing.

• 1:08:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was good.

• 1:08:06Alex Cooper?

  Have you ever sent nudes for pre-approval in there?

• 1:08:10Speaker 01

  Um, no, not even pre-approval. That's where they go. You know, like that's where they're ending up. Like that's where, yeah, like, you know, the other day, my friend was talking about, you know, my, I have a lot of friends who have had babies and like their stomachs are just like not going back to the way they were because the muscles get pulled out. And my friend is like, I need to get a tummy tuck, but they can't even fix this. And she was showing her belly and it just looked like she ate a skinny girl who ate a sandwich. And so there was a day on chat where we were all just taking the gnarliest, pushing our stomachs out, distended as much as possible. And that was one where I did crop off my head just in case something leaked that I could like deny that it was me, but you could probably tell by faded spray tan that it was.

• 1:08:47Alex Cooper?

  You know what's good though, is when you are getting older, I'm like, I do the same thing where you're like, I'm not sending nudes to my husband. What I'm doing with my friends being like, what does this look like? And like my friends, I literally would like, like my friends have sent me pictures of their vagina being like, is this normal? Like, is that's the nudes.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  Is this herpes or a ingrown hair? I've many of those. Yeah, that is, that's, it's like medical diagnoses are the new.

• 1:09:12Alex Cooper?

  Perfect. Do your friends think you're funny?

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Yeah. But they're like funnier than I am. Like truly like the funniest people ever. Like I'm, I'm obviously trained at being funny. It's like something I've worked at and is my career, but they are so, so, so funny.

• 1:09:25Alex Cooper?

  No, I love how much you talk about how obviously you've referenced other comedians, you've referenced your friends, like women, and also you're just like a huge feminist because you let your man like fuck other women, but it's really about the other women. Like this is about feminism here. You are in a pretty male dominated field, obviously. What is a time in your career? Because obviously you're thriving right now, but like, what's a time in your career where you really felt the weight of being a woman in comedy?

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  Alex, it's so weird, and I hate saying this because this is so unfeminist of me. I like never really noticed that I was different, if that makes any sense. Like, I never was like, "I'm a female comic and this sucks and I'm not being taken seriously." I look back and there's so many instances where that was taking place, but I really didn't notice it. I was just like, to me, the best, my favorite comedians were female comics. So I thought it was always like a cooler thing to be. And I never felt, you know, there, it was almost safer because I, maybe I noticed that men were always getting things. So when I didn't get things, I wouldn't take it personally. I was like, "It's just a thing beyond my control because only one woman can get this roast." And so if I'm not getting a roast, there's, you know, there's only one woman per roast.

• 1:10:35Speaker 01

  There's maybe, you know, they're giving out specials that year, or, you know, stand-up specials. It would be like, two women get them, and I know it's two. Those girls are in the class above me. They deserve it more than me. So it was always kind of like-

• 1:10:46Alex Cooper?

  And like, it's an unsaid thing that's like, it shouldn't be that only one woman's getting it, but it's like you were-

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  That's just the way it was, and so it was easier for me to be like, that's why I didn't get it. Because there's not enough spots, not because I'm not good enough. And so I, you know, and then I look back on, and now I think I notice it more where like, you know, a comedian will come into a show that has like, you know, seven comics on the lineup, and there's like some famous guy dropping in. It's called dropping in, he just drops on wherever he wants because he's famous enough that like, he bumps anyone. So, and I'll get, he'll go up before me as opposed to anyone on the set. And I'm like, is it because I'm a woman or is it because I'm nice and he knows that I don't care? And I'm like, whatever, but like, it always happens to be, I feel like I, it often is me. And I'm like, I think it's because they don't respect us as much. Or like, it's, and now I'm noticing it, it's just easier when you get bigger for, um,

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  them to just dismiss what you do and say like, "Well, oh, she only killed the Golden Globes because she had writers." And I'm like, "What award show doesn't have writers, motherfucker?" Like, what, why is it suddenly pointed out that I get writer? Like, every award show in the history has had a writers' room, but now it's like, that's why she's funny, because she had such killer writers. But they'll never, they'll not say that. They'll just say things like, "Oh, Nikki Glaser has the best writers." And I go, "Okay, I know exactly what you're doing. You're dog-whistling to your fucking fans that I don't write my own stuff," which is so untrue, and, or they'll say, you know, um- Or all she does is talk about sex. And that's all she does, and that's easy for her. And I'm like, yeah, but it's not easy for you because you're disgusting and no one wants to hear about it. And you are ashamed of your sexuality. So, yeah, it is easy for me.

• 1:12:17Speaker 01

  You talk about what's easy for you, and I'll talk about what is easy for me. It is easy for me, but not everyone. Who else is talking about? It's not easy to talk about sex.

• 1:12:24Alex Cooper?

  That is so fascinating, hearing you with the writer thing. Because it's like, they're trying to discredit you.

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  And they always say it like, they're praising me, like, you hire the best writers. Like, I'm supposed to take, like, and I go, yeah, I do, because I have great taste. And I also write the jokes, a ton of, like, but it's like, it's the quickest thing. They always do it.

• 1:12:45Alex Cooper?

  And as if, like you just said, every single live show is

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  Every single comedian.

• 1:12:51Alex Cooper?

  It is to the second that you have practiced this. They know the exact word that then gets you to the transition to the next thing. Because that's how it has to go. That's how you run live television.

• 1:13:01Speaker 01

  Talk about singers. No one has ever, like, but, you know, yeah, she didn't. So many singers don't write their music, and they never get discredited for that. Or they have male, you know, let's just talk about men helping, like, producers in the room, producing a song. And no one else gets taken away credit for their song. I mean, I'm not gonna say no one, but it's just very interesting to me that, for some reason, stand-up comics, like, call each other out for that stuff. They don't call men out. It's like, we, it's like, every late-night show, they all have writers. But we say, Conan's the funniest, Colbert's the funniest, Fallon's the funniest. But we don't talk about the

• 1:13:34Alex Cooper?

  They're writers.

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  But when a woman does it, I swear to God, it happens every time. And it's given me a complex where I'm like, I can't, I can't ask for help. I don't wanna, I need to write a better joke than that one. Because if I use that one, I can't really claim that it was me that did that. And I, it's made me kind of insecure about, like, well, I only got far because The Golden Globes is only good because the writers are, like, it's made me feel that way. But I'm like, wait a second. When there's a home decorator that puts together a beautiful room, people don't go, well, she didn't make that couch. She didn't make that book. She, but she put it all together. What about that? We give credit for that. And I'm actually making the chairs. I am writing the jokes, but it's like, if you don't do it all, you're not allowed to claim credit.

• 1:14:15Alex Cooper?

  And it also is, aside from even just that, it's like, the amount that you have to pour into it to think about, but because I am a woman, inevitably, I'm gonna get this backlash. So how can I think about this in a way that will also mitigate the damage of people saying this? Because I'm a woman?

• 1:14:31Speaker 01

  I'm like, as soon as you asked me about this, and I start talking about writers, I'm like, oh, my God, now this is gonna be out there. And then that's gonna be something that I'm like, I'm giving them something to now say.

• 1:14:40Alex Cooper?

  And every man that you have seen on those stages has a fucking writer.

• 1:14:43Speaker 01

  Every single one.

• 1:14:45Alex Cooper?

  And guess what? A lot of them are women.

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  And guess what? Yes, a lot of them are. It's, it really, really irritates me. And it's something that I wish I wasn't, it didn't get to me as much, but I, there was just a couple fucking clips from friends of mine that went out right after something I did that was like, she's got a murderer's row of writers. And they were talking about my writers. And I'm like, first of all, I know you don't know any of my writers. So you're just saying that just to let people know what to, how your male fan base can take me down as a female comic, who they're mad at because I talk about my vagina or whatever.

• 1:15:18Alex Cooper?

  I just think also that the more we do talk about it, and I get it, I get you're gonna sit here and you're like, oh, my God, did I just start this whole thing up again? I've been there. But I also think it's important to talk about because it, again, we're putting them right next to each other, the same amount of writers, the same amount of people that do it for the men. So why is it even a conversation for you? And I bet most people genuinely didn't know that men had writers. And they think that they're these genius people. And then because you're a woman, they're trying to nitpick. They're like, there has to be something behind it. Yet for all of them, whether you have a dick or a fucking vagina, there's writers behind all these people.

• 1:15:53Speaker 01

  There was a joke about me having writers done at the roast of Tom Brady, that really irritated me because it's like, everyone up there has writers. By the way, every single person that does a roast has, and there's, there's, by the way, they hire a writing staff to work on the roast. So if you don't hire writers yourself, which everyone does, they give you jokes. You walk in, they give you jokes. No one, and by the way, I wrote the bulk of my jokes. Like, you know, you have them to help you out and shape it because it's a lot of work.

• 1:16:20Alex Cooper?

  And um, there was one joke about me that I had writers and um, and the guy that told the joke had that joke written for him. And I was like, the irony here, like I, I know the guy who wrote the joke for this guy that was making fun of me for having writers. And I'm like, it was so irritating to me because that's just not something that I would ever call it another, another comic because, because especially if I was using writers, I wouldn't call it something for something that I was doing. So it was just, that's one that really gets me. And I, I like that we're talking about it because I can, again, like I can make fun, I can say the thing before people say it, but it, it will be a thing that follows me the rest of my life, probably.

• 1:16:55Speaker 01

  Not only that, I think it's like, we have to, we have to be aware of it as women because you read this shit and we care about our careers. It hurts when people try to put us down off of things that just are a prerequisite in the industry.

• 1:17:09Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 1:17:09Speaker 01

  That are things that have been happening before us.

• 1:17:11Alex Cooper?

  Yes. And by the way, people bomb when they have writers. It doesn't mean that you're going to be good. People choose bad jokes. Also, it is so exhausting, the standard that we are held to as women. And it is true though.

• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  In every fucking way.

• 1:17:24Alex Cooper?

  A lot of women are holding other women to this insane standard because I think it's like, we want to have this like moral high ground that we are like, no, you have to do this. Like you watch certain people getting crucified online for certain things and then you're like, wait, but what about the Epstein files? Like what about those guys? Like the way that we crucify women for something that is 0% compared to the men who are doing what to these children? Like you don't even get me started. It's like, guys, put your energy towards that fucking shit.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  I, and, and I really, I can't handle it anymore, especially with Epstein files and with the deep dive that I went on that. I was like, this is more, this is, you know, I've always been like, well, politics are more important than celebrity stuff. There's always been that like, well, Trump's doing this, but when the Epstein files came out, that like, was so insane to me that I was like, anything other article about celebrity calling anything else is just shut up.

• 1:18:12Alex Cooper?

  Like even the, the capacity at which I wish people put the amount of energy they put towards being like obsessed with Chapel Rohn and like the

• 1:18:19Speaker 01

  Oh, the Chapel Rohn thing, perfect example.

• 1:18:21Alex Cooper?

  It's like, why don't we focus on the living, breathing men who are in the Epstein piles? And Chapel Rohn just like, did something with like not wanting to say hi to her fans? Like, let's focus on the

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  And these guys are trading children in emails that is like, not even in code words.

• 1:18:34Alex Cooper?

  And, and that, but that though, I do think what's so crazy is all women, we get off on like

• 1:18:40Speaker 01

  Chapel Rohn's security was mean to the cousin of someone. It's really important we address it and that she address it and that she like, yeah, I mean, well, child rape aside, we have to deal with chapel roan in this tooth that she has ever since she got famous. She thinks she's better than people to tell them to leave her alone and not take pictures when she doesn't want it to be taken. That's what's important. And I would like a list of that. I want the list to be all the times that she has snapped at paparazzi.

• 1:19:05Alex Cooper?

  It's more important.

• 1:19:06Speaker 01

  It's so much more important. It's insane that they can even exist. Like, I don't even understand how we talk about anything else. If you haven't done an Epstein deep dive, I know it's a little too late.

• 1:19:15Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I've done it.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  Like, not you, I know you have, but based on like, so you listening at home, guys, guys, I'm scared to even say the name because I might get murdered.

• 1:19:24Alex Cooper?

  We're dead. We're, we're literally dead.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  This is our last episode. Call her daddy's over. It is true. Like, how, I love that you just said it because I had, I've had that realization the past couple of weeks of like, why is this a headline?

• 1:19:38Alex Cooper?

  It is.

• 1:19:38Speaker 01

  What's going on?

• 1:19:39Alex Cooper?

  It is so shocking, the way that women are reprimanded in comparison to what is actually fucking happening in the world. And you're like, how? We cannot keep fucking doing this. Women, if you look in the comments, it's just fucking women tearing other women down. It's you got, like, let's redirect our fucking energy.

• 1:19:56Speaker 01

  Let's stop commenting. Stop reading com, I want to stop reading comments. It's really hard. But comment culture, I talk about this all the time, but I have to say, like, I'm so sick of it. Like, it is literally destroying art. Like, the fact that people, because even when I'm watching something, I will read the comments before I watch it, just to see how I should feel about it. Do you ever do that?

• 1:20:14Alex Cooper?

  Yes, and it's.

• 1:20:14Speaker 01

  How do other, and it colors how you watch it. And you're a savvy consumer. So what are dumb people doing? They're just going off of what the comment is. It is so fucking dangerous.

• 1:20:23Alex Cooper?

  It's really bad.

• 1:20:24Speaker 01

  I can't, I don't even know the last time I consumed anything without finding some kind of review about it before, like, feeling, how should I feel going into this?

• 1:20:32Alex Cooper?

  It's true.

• 1:20:33Speaker 01

  I need to know.

• 1:20:34Alex Cooper?

  People on TikTok have talked about how there's people who only the minute you scroll, you just open the comments. So you get like a brief analysis of what's going on. But all these people are like sick in the fucking head.

• 1:20:43Speaker 01

  The sickest people ever. I've never commented anything except like fire emojis and like, queen, or like slut, like, only telling another girl she looks hot is the only thing I would ever comment. And like, I think, I guess the, um, I guess Life of a Showgirl was the last thing I consumed where there was no, there was no reviews out yet and I was just consuming it without comments and like

• 1:21:05Alex Cooper?

  You don't know. And then you open TikTok and you're like, oh, I guess maybe people didn't like the album.

• 1:21:10Speaker 01

  Exactly. And then you're like, am I wrong for, but I think this is the last pure like thing that I

• 1:21:15Alex Cooper?

  You just need it to blow up.

• 1:21:18Speaker 01

  I'm just like, I just don't want any more comments.

• 1:21:20Alex Cooper?

  No, I know. Now we just can't read them anymore.

• 1:21:21Speaker 01

  People get so mad if you disable them. They're so mad.

• 1:21:24Alex Cooper?

  Let's talk about your fucking special.

• 1:21:25Speaker 01

  Yes, please.

• 1:21:26Alex Cooper?

  We're like, wait, but one more thing on Epstein. So I just, you bring out a full fucking pamphlet.

• 1:21:31Speaker 01

  Pizza. Why are they always talking about pizza and like cream cheese?

• 1:21:38Alex Cooper?

  The fucking, no.

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  The fucking codes? The fucking blurs? Like every, like, why are we, what's going on?

• 1:21:47Alex Cooper?

  We need some

• 1:21:48Speaker 01

  But, but it's over. Like we've, it's over. Like people don't talk about it anymore.

• 1:21:51Alex Cooper?

  It's over.

• 1:21:53Alex Cooper?

  It's so true.

• 1:21:54Speaker 01

  They read it. They checked off that list. They checked it twice. They're like, gonna find out who's naughty or a psychopath and we're moving on.

• 1:22:01Alex Cooper?

  And they're like, got it. Okay, him. Anyways, um. Good girl. Let's, let's bring some positivity.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  Okay, yes, my special good girl.

• 1:22:08Alex Cooper?

  If we are alive by the time this is released.

• 1:22:12Speaker 01

  I want to make it clear. I have, I do not want to self harm. I have no suicidal thoughts. If anything happens to me, I was murdered.

• 1:22:18Alex Cooper?

  Someone is gunning for us.

• 1:22:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:22:21Alex Cooper?

  Um, but I'm not cutting this out. We're saying, we are, we are an example, Nikki.

• 1:22:26Speaker 01

  But to Google the stuff we said.

• 1:22:29Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:22:29Speaker 01

  Like those keywords.

• 1:22:31Alex Cooper?

  Get that on your algo.

• 1:22:32Speaker 01

  You're not getting it in like MSNBC or whatever. Like you need to like look at it.

• 1:22:36Alex Cooper?

  Cream cheese. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:22:37Speaker 01

  The Reddit. Go to Epstein Reddit.

• 1:22:39Alex Cooper?

  Just Google cream cheese. Yeah. Okay. Um, your new special, Good Girl.

• 1:22:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:44Alex Cooper?

  How did you decide that's name? And like, what can you tell us about it?

• 1:22:47Speaker 01

  Um, I decided on the name because it's a joke I have about like, um, the porn I consume. I really like when the guy, there's like a guy who's being uh, almost like a coach kind of person that's like making a girl do something really whorish that she's kind of like, I don't know if I can do this. And he's like, you can do it. Like be, and then she does it and he's like, good girl. And that's like always when I'm like, I climax is when the guy is like praising the girl.

• 1:23:10Alex Cooper?

  Oh, what do you search for that?

• 1:23:12Speaker 01

  I search, um, gangbangs.

• 1:23:16Speaker 01

  I know that's not what you wanted me to say, but it is true. Gang bangs, forced orgasms, um.

• 1:23:22Alex Cooper?

  Forced orgasms.

• 1:23:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:24Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  That's where girls tied up and like, and, and I really like that because I have a hard time orgasming because I feel like it's just like so embarrassing and it's like a loss of control that I don't like, like, because I like to be in control. And so I've always felt like orgasms were hard for me because I was like, I just look so stupid. I don't want to look like, like, it's just, it's so embarrassing.

• 1:23:44Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:44Speaker 01

  And I would try to push them down and not have them. And so I discovered this genre of forced orgasm where a girl's like tied up and like wants it, but the guy's like making her come and she's like, it's like almost too much. And then she comes a bunch and then he says, good girl. And then it's not her fault that she looks stupid. He like did it.

• 1:24:00Alex Cooper?

  Do you use the same video?

• 1:24:02Speaker 01

  No, I, I like, I honestly need.

• 1:24:04Alex Cooper?

  You need to do.

• 1:24:04Speaker 01

  New stuff. Sometimes I'll like repeat after like a year. I'll be like, oh, I kind of remember this one, but I don't know how it ends. But let me guess, it's.

• 1:24:10Alex Cooper?

  Um, this was filmed during the last leg of your, like, what headlines are coming to go?

• 1:24:16Speaker 01

  I'm so sorry. It's like.

• 1:24:18Alex Cooper?

  What did we do today?

• 1:24:20Speaker 01

  I don't know why I'm like this.

• 1:24:21Alex Cooper?

  You filmed this during the last leg of your tour and you did it in your hometown in front of your friends and family?

• 1:24:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:24:27Alex Cooper?

  Is that like harder to do? Like, or are you like, you bitches will fucking laugh?

• 1:24:32Speaker 01

  No, it's much harder because I, you know, like growing up, I, I think, you know, when I was in high school, I always wanted to be like the popular girl. I felt like unseen. I felt quiet. I felt like, oh, God, these people don't even know my potential and they never will know it because I wasn't like, I would audition for plays. I would never get like, I would audition for like the Diary of Anne Frank and I would think I was going to get Anne Frank and I would get like Jewish towns person B. Like I was always like way under what any, like I would think. So I was like not being shown any reason why I would ever be successful. And I had this secret dream of like, I want to be on TV. So there's a part of me that is like, look at what I did, but like. There's this other thing of like, I just project them being like, this isn't that good. Like, almost like seeing the real me. So there's this like, kind of, um, and also I don't feel like I'm a star.

• 1:25:17Speaker 01

  Like, I don't, as much as like, yes, I know that I've earned this status and like, other people might see me that way. I really don't think it's like, I can think of a million reasons, excuses for why it happened. And I'm like, I feel imposter syndrome. So there is a part of me that feels like stupid, like making all these people come to this big theater and like, do give a standing ovation and they're like, you know, girls I take Pilates classes with, or like my hairdresser, or like, you know, girls I went to high school with. It's like, kind of embarrassing. Um, but then, but overall, like, I loved it because they're just so supportive and they're so, they are excited that someone made it. And like, she's bringing this home and like, she lives here. And they can tell that like, that I don't think I'm better than it. Like, I think they really get that I don't think I'm hot shit.

• 1:25:59Speaker 01

  That I like, am the girl that they knew. And I, and that's, I think, I, I get that feedback.

• 1:26:05Alex Cooper?

  I'm so excited to have everyone watch your special because I also think like, you, you are right when you were saying like, you are a conductor of storytelling through the beginning, middle and end. And like, we've watched you at the Golden Globes. You've done such a phenomenal job. Like, I, when I went this year and I was sitting in this-

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  I know you were there.

• 1:26:22Alex Cooper?

  First of all, I was like stressed for you because it is like, I, I think that you make it look easy, but I can only imagine before you get on that fucking stage, you have every fucking a lister in that room staring at you, wanting you to like lightly stumble on like the joke that's about them. Or like, not maybe hit it. And like, they don't want you to fail, but like, people aren't-

• 1:26:45Speaker 01

  They just don't want me to make a joke about it.

• 1:26:47Alex Cooper?

  Exactly.

• 1:26:47Speaker 01

  You just want to get through on skates. But you also kind of want to be acknowledged because you're a celebrity and you like, are a big deal and you have an ego. So it's very interesting.

• 1:26:53Alex Cooper?

  I give you all of the flowers because it's like the pressure that is put on you, like you said, to land the joke, to go out there, execute, timing with everything that you do. Like, you've done such an incredible job. And it's really been awesome to watch your career rise.

• 1:27:09Speaker 01

  I love that my career can have different-

• 1:27:11Alex Cooper?

  Facets.

• 1:27:12Speaker 01

  Facets where it's like, I can be a freak on the stage at live shows and in my standup. And then I'm like more wholesome on TV. Like, because I am both. I am a wholesome person.

• 1:27:20Alex Cooper?

  Okay, you have range.

• 1:27:21Speaker 01

  I'm a wholesome girl with lots of holes. Isn't that what wholesome means?

• 1:27:25Alex Cooper?

  Nikki Glaser, thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy.

• 1:27:28Speaker 01

  Thank you so much for having me.

• 1:27:29Alex Cooper?

  It was an honor. You're amazing.

• 1:27:45Alex Cooper?

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