American Idol Contestant Arrested For Murder!? The Case Of Ashley Flynn

On February 16th, 2026, 37-year-old Ashley Flynn was found shot to death inside her home in Tipp City, Ohio, after her husband called 911 to report that an intruder had broken in while their children slept. As first responders arrived at the scene, questions quickly began to emerge about what had happened inside the house that morning. Days later, Ashley's husband was arrested and charged with her murder. With the case still making its way through the courts, many questions remain unanswered. In this episode, we take a look at the events that unfolded from that 911 call and bring you up to date on where the case stands today. GoFundMe https://www.gofundme.com/f/f9345-in-loving-memory-of-ashley-flynn Caleb Flynn: Road To Hollywood Interviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRuDgMW912Q Amanda Blackburn case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwZrYNqJJVw&t=1243s This episode is sponsored by: Rocket Money: let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join at rocketmoney.com/KENDALLRAE http://rocketmoney.com/KENDALLRAE SKIMS: shop SKIMS Cotton, and all of my favorite pieces, at https://skims.com ARMRA: receive 30% off your first subscription order at armra.com/TCKR http://armra.com/TCKR Hiya Health: get 50% off your first order on any of their products at hiyahealth.com/TCKR http://hiyahealth.com/TCKR Merit Beauty: visit meritbeauty.com http://meritbeauty.com to get your free signature makeup bag with your first order Check out my foundation: Higher Hope Foundation: https://www.higherhope.org/ Watch my documentaries: 530 Days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjUWkmOjNLk Apartment 801: https://bit.ly/2RJ9XXr True Crime with Kendall Rae podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3rks84o Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jC66pr Shop my Merch! https://kendallrae.shop https://kendallrae.shop/ Check out my other podcasts: Mile Higher (True Crime) @milehigherpod YouTube: https://bit.ly/2ROzJcw Instagram: http://instagram.com/milehigherpod The Sesh (Current events, a little true crime, pop culture, and commentary) https://bit.ly/3Mtoz4X @the_seshpodcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/3a9t6Xr *Follow My Social!* @KendallRaeOnyt Instagram: http://instagram.com/kendallraeonyt Facebook: https://bit.ly/3kar4NK True Crime TikTok: https://bit.ly/3VDbc77 Personal TikTok: https://bit.ly/41hmRKg REQUESTS: General case suggestion form: https://zfrmz.com/yg9cuiWjUe2QY3hSC2V0 Form for people directly related/close to the victim: https://zfrmz.com/HGu2hZso42aHxARt1i67 Join my discord to chat with other viewers about this video, it’s free! https://discord.com/invite/an4stY9BCN C O N T A C T: For Business Inquiries - [email protected] Send me mail: Kendall Rae 8547 E Arapahoe Rd Ste J #233 Greenwood Village, CO 80112

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• 1:06Kendall Rae?

  Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of True Crime with Kendall Rae. Thank you so much for joining me today. And if you're new to the show, then welcome. Make sure to click subscribe so that you never miss an upload from me. So you guys, today we're going to be going over a case that has been super, super highly requested by many of you. And depending on if you follow true crime news and how closely you follow it, this case may not need much of an introduction because there's been a lot of discussion about it online and a lot of coverage. And I'm sure some of you saw the title and already knew what this episode would be about. But for those of you who aren't familiar yet with this case, don't worry.

• 1:51Kendall Rae?

  I'm going to be going over everything we know so far when it comes to the case of Ashley Flynn, the horrible murder of Ashley Flynn. This case is extremely frustrating, very, very sad, and just absolutely ridiculous. Ashley was Was a mother of two. She was an outstanding member of her community and just seemed like such a wonderful person. Now, I think a big reason that this case has gotten a lot of attention is because of who stands accused of killing her. Her husband, who was a former contestant on American Idol. His name is Caleb and he didn't make it very far when it comes to American Idol.

• 2:35Kendall Rae?

  And if his goal was to get his name in lights, to get attention, well, now you have Caleb. Congratulations, people. Know who you are. Caleb is a total monster. He's an absolute moron. And just a total loser in every possible way. Terrible father, terrible human. And yeah, I guess I've got to say that he is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And his trial is currently set for September of 2026, so coming up pretty soon. So yeah, I wanted this episode to come out before then because personally, I really like knowing all the facts in a case as far as, you know,

• 3:18Kendall Rae?

  what is out as of today, which I'm recording this on June 26th, so that you have a really good idea of things before the trial actually begins. That way, you know, it's a lot easier to follow the trial. And if you're interested in following the trial, you may want to revisit this episode as the date gets closer. I definitely want to hear all of your thoughts on this one. So let me start out by telling you about Ashley. Ashley Elizabeth Smith was born on February 24th, 1988 in Tipp City, Ohio, where among many things, she was known for her very encouraging and uplifting spirit. Growing up and really throughout her life, Ashley was guided by her faith.

• 4:01Kendall Rae?

  And it was through her love of church that so many people got to know her. After graduating from Tipp City High School in 2006, she attended Lee University, which I had never heard of. It's a private Christian college in Tennessee. And that is where she studied education. And with that degree, she then returned to Tipp City. She went on to become a beloved member of her community. And I truly mean that people just really, really loved her. And a lot of that was because of her work and her volunteer efforts. In her adulthood, Ashley worked several jobs, including as a substitute teacher for Tipp City Schools. She was a seventh grade girls volleyball coach. She was also a teacher for Life Wise Academy, which is, I guess, a nonprofit

• 4:45Kendall Rae?

  that provides Bible-based education to public school students. She also volunteered at her church, which is called the Christian Life Center. Ashley seemed to really be someone who felt this calling to really serve her community and be an active member of her community. And it sounds like that's exactly what she was doing in so many different ways. And she wasn't the only one her community grew to love. It was really her whole family. While she was attending college, Ashley met Caleb Flynn. And by 2013, the two of them were married. And then they went on to have two daughters. And honestly, to the outside world, their lives looked perfect.

• 5:27Kendall Rae?

  Neighbors said that they would often see their family playing outside, just chilling with their two golden doodles and tossing around the softball or doing, you know, other activities. And then during the holidays, they would bake cookies and the girls would deliver them to everyone on the block. So very picture-perfect family life from the outside. And if you take all of that and then couple it with the fact that they're so active in their church, I can see why so many people were just shocked to hear that things were not as they appeared. Now, like Ashley, Caleb was, or I guess probably is still, very religious. Back in college, he studied pastoral and music ministry.

• 6:10Kendall Rae?

  And after he earned his degree, he worked as a worship arts pastor and worship director at two different churches. And then, once he and Ashley moved to Tipp City, he served on the worship team at the Christian Life Center, which, to my understanding, that means he helped lead the congregation in prayer through song. It kind of seems like he was sort of a music director for the church, which I guess makes sense, especially since he had a dream of making it big in music. So this was probably a nice outlet for him. And I know. A lot of these bigger churches, which I think Christian Life Center was like a pretty big church, they get really, you know, it's like a concert. I mean, it's a big music

• 6:51Kendall Rae?

  production. And his time in the church eventually did come to an end. According to Caleb's LinkedIn, in 2021, he worked briefly in insurance. And then in November of that year, he began working as the VP of Sales at Richard D. Smith and Sons, which is a family-run, single-source interior supplier for flooring, stackable chairs, pews, and theater seats. So it sounds like he was doing that most of the time, obviously, but then he would still volunteer at the Christian Life Center. And he and Ashley were very much so active members of the church. And staying on the whole church slash singing note thing for

• 7:33Kendall Rae?

  a second, that was clearly Caleb's biggest passion, hence the whole American Idol auditions, which, yes, that's right, there were multiple auditions. Caleb first auditioned in 2009, and he didn't make it past the first round. And then he auditioned again in the 12th season, which is when he did get a golden ticket to go to Hollywood. And oh, man, I wish so badly I could play you guys the Road to Hollywood interview that he did. But um, American Idol really does not play around when it comes to copyright, so I cannot share that with you. But I will have it linked in the description box in the show notes if you want to check it out for yourself. And I highly recommend you give it a listen.

• 8:17Kendall Rae?

  But let me just kind of summarize for you. So in that video, he says that he cried when he got his golden ticket because he's a quote, "crybaby," which he gets from his mom and dad, and that singing is what he lives to do. He also talked about how the Lord is who inspired him the most to be a performer, and that he just had such a unique sound and a hard work ethic. So clearly very confident in himself. And then what's arguably pointed out the most through his interview, and this makes Total sense now in hindsight is how he talks about Ashley. He said, quote, "I love my wife more than anything. She is very, very pretty. Just oof, I love her."

• 9:02Kendall Rae?

  Then he talked about Carrie Underwood being his favorite idol winner and that if his wife dyed her hair, she would look just like her. So yeah, just odd. He seemed very fixated on her appearance, which yeah, just is a red flag to me, very weird. And of course, you can't help but immediately recognize the irony of this man saying he loved his wife more than anything, only for him to later be accused of murdering her.

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• 10:40Kendall Rae?

  So this happened very recently. I'm talking February 2026. At 2:31 a.m., Caleb Flynn dialed 911 in what appeared to be a panic, stating that an intruder had broken into their home and shot his wife. And as you'll hear, he says that she was shot twice and that he was in his daughter's bedroom when it happened. Now, the call itself is seven minutes long and normally I'd try to refrain from playing something so lengthy and like chop it up a little bit more. But for this particular case, I feel like it's important for you to hear it in full. So let's take a listen.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 11:20Speaker 04

  Miami County, nine one one.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  Oh my, somebody, somebody broke into my home. Somebody broke into my home and killed my wife.

• 11:27Speaker 04

  Are they still in there?

• 11:29Speaker 03

  I, I don't know. I don't know.

• 11:30Speaker 04

  Okay, what's the address?

• 11:32Speaker 03

  Nine, nine thirty two County Ham Court, Pitts City, Ohio. Please, please hurry, please, please hurry.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  What are, what are you seeing?

• 11:39Speaker 03

  My wife is, she got two shots to her hands, there's blood everywhere. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Sir, please, please, please.

• 11:48Speaker 04

  Ma'am, I need you to take a deep breath, okay? Do you still see anybody in the house?

• 11:53Speaker 03

  No, the door to the garage was wide open. Please hurry, please. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. My daughters are here. My, my daughters are here.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  Where's she at?

• 12:06Speaker 03

  She's in the bed. She's in the bed.

• 12:09Speaker 04

  Are you with her?

• 12:10Speaker 03

  I am in the room. I'm looking at her, yes, please.

• 12:13Speaker 04

  You guys have the door locked?

• 12:16Speaker 03

  We have the, the, the doors to the garage locked, but key to the house, yes. Please, my god, my god.

• 12:25Speaker 04

  Where, where is that room out in the house? My partner's getting them dispatched, okay, but I need you to answer my questions so I can get you help as fast as I can, okay?

• 12:32Speaker 03

  What, what question?

• 12:34Speaker 04

  Where are you guys at in the house?

• 12:36Speaker 03

  I'm in the bedroom with her right now.

• 12:38Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  My daughters are in their room.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  So you're not, you are not with the children?

• 12:44Speaker 03

  I was with the children when it happened.

• 12:47Speaker 04

  Okay, but you're not with them now?

• 12:49Speaker 03

  No, they're in their room. They're not even awake. Oh my god, oh my god. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Sir, please, please, please.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  They're, they are heading that way, okay? I need you to take a deep breath for me.

• 13:03Speaker 03

  I think she's...

• 13:04Speaker 04

  Are you hearing anything?

• 13:06Speaker 03

  No, I, I, I rubbed her leg and, and said her name. She's not answering.

• 13:12Speaker 04

  Okay, your daughter's not answering you?

• 13:15Speaker 03

  I'm, no. Hold on, I'm putting on a shirt.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  What'd you say? What'd you say?

• 13:22Speaker 04

  Your, your daughter's not answering you?

• 13:25Speaker 03

  No, they're in the other, they're in across the room.

• 13:27Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  In the other, in their room.

• 13:29Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 13:30Kendall Rae?

  Now, of course, it's so much easier to judge a 911 call when you know what we do now. But I'm curious if this dispatcher was already starting to get weird vibes and yeah, I do have that knowledge of the fact that he is arrested and, you know, facing trial and everything, but ah, this just right off the bat screams fake to me and I'm curious what you guys think. Um, cause obviously everyone handles this type of shock and grief so differently that it is hard to judge a 911 call. But something about this just seems so inauthentic and overly

• 14:15Kendall Rae?

  dramatic, I guess, is the word I'm trying to use. Like it's, it just seems like such an act. Um, it doesn't seem like genuine sadness. It seems like he's trying to play it up as much as possible.

• 14:26Speaker 04

  Are you hearing any kind of noise inside the house?

• 14:30Speaker 03

  No, no, her face is, oh sir, her face is white as could go is freezing.

• 14:36Speaker 04

  Okay, who's, who's face?

• 14:39Speaker 03

  My wife's face.

• 14:40Speaker 04

  Your wife's face?

• 14:42Speaker 03

  The one, yes, the one who was shot.

• 14:44Speaker 04

  She was, she was what?

• 14:47Speaker 03

  Shot, I said.

• 14:48Speaker 04

  Okay, where was she shot at?

• 14:51Speaker 03

  In the head, in the head. I hope there's blood everywhere.

• 14:57Speaker 04

  Okay, is she breathing?

• 14:59Speaker 03

  I, I don't, no, I don't think so. Ashley, Ashley, baby, baby, please, oh my God, no, she's not.

• 15:07Speaker 04

  Okay, she's not responding to you?

• 15:09Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

• 15:17Speaker 04

  Okay, do you see anybody in the house now?

• 15:21Speaker 03

  No, it's, uh, no, it's pitch black and the doors are locked. The doors are leading to the garage door was wide open when I ran in there.

• 15:30Speaker 04

  Okay, do you see any kind of vehicles?

• 15:33Speaker 03

  Um, um, no, no.

• 15:39Speaker 03

  Wait, no, the, the, the door, there's a side door in my garage door that's open by the, oh my god.

• 15:47Speaker 04

  Okay. Okay, I need you to just take a deep breath for me, okay? They're getting to you as quick as they can.

• 15:53Kendall Rae?

  So if you caught that, he already starts laying the groundwork here. He mentions that the side door to the garage is open. So he's already set in the scene the way he wants it to be perceived.

• 16:07Speaker 04

  And is that door still open?

• 16:09Speaker 03

  Yes, it is, yes, it is.

• 16:11Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  What do I do, what do I do, what do I do?

• 16:16Speaker 04

  Is, is she breathing at all?

• 16:18Speaker 03

  I don't think so, there's two shots to my head.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  If, if you are comfortable, I want you to go and find a cloth. Then I want you to put a cloth on that gunshot wound, okay?

• 16:30Speaker 03

  Oh, like a towel?

• 16:31Speaker 04

  Yes, like a towel, but do not apply direct pressure to it. Just put it on that blood wound, okay?

• 16:37Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 16:45Speaker 04

  Just, I need you to just take a deep breath for me, okay?

• 16:49Speaker 03

  Okay, okay.

• 16:51Speaker 04

  Just get that cloth and I want you to put it on that wound, but don't apply direct pressure to it, okay? They're coming to you as quick as they can, okay?

• 16:59Speaker 03

  I just laid it on her head.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  Okay, where are, the juveniles, are they okay? Have you checked on them?

• 17:07Speaker 03

  There, I haven't checked on them.

• 17:09Speaker 04

  Okay, can, can you go check on the juveniles for me?

• 17:13Speaker 03

  The police is here, the police is here.

• 17:15Speaker 04

  Wait, uh, can you go check on the juveniles for me?

• 17:19Speaker 03

  Wait, the cops just called, they just, they just left, they just left.

• 17:22Kendall Rae?

  You haven't checked on your children yet. We will revisit that.

• 17:27Speaker 04

  Okay, I need you to go check on the juveniles for me, okay?

• 17:34Speaker 03

  They're still, they're still sleeping, they're still sleeping.

• 17:37Speaker 04

  Okay, you still see them breathing? You don't see any wounds on them?

• 17:40Speaker 03

  No, no, the cop just, the cop just pulled them. Sir, sir, sir!

• 17:47Speaker 03

  The cop, the cop is here.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  Okay, I want you to... Okay, open the door for him so he can get into her, okay?

• 17:55Speaker 03

  Okay, he, he's running, he's coming to me. Sir, sir!

• 18:02Speaker 03

  What?

• 18:04Speaker 03

  I don't know, there's a, the door to the garage was wide open. I'm her, I'm his, her wife.

• 18:09Kendall Rae?

  The door to the garage was wide open. Again, setting the scene now for the officers.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  Her husband.

• 18:22Speaker 03

  No, I don't think so. He's in the door, so it's like, yeah, yeah.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  Every meter, I'm trying to get her head. Good, is that...

• 18:42Speaker 04

  Hey, ma'am, ma'am, do you still have me on the phone here?

• 18:46Speaker 03

  Wide open, and I went to, and then there's a door all the way to the right. That one's open. Behind the...

• 19:20Speaker 03

  My daughters are in the bedroom over there, they're still asleep. And I'm sure, I'm sure. The, the, uh, nine one one, yes.

• 19:30Speaker 03

  No, every door was.

• 19:38Kendall Rae?

  Okay, so there's a lot to unpack there, more than, you know, when I just chimed in throughout it as we were listening. But there's so much that makes me suspicious of Caleb just right off the bat, hearing that call. One thing I didn't bring up while we were listening, I'm sure a lot of you caught it, but Caleb says that his wife was shot two times in the head and that there was a lot of blood. Let's listen to that one more time.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  My wife, she got two shots to her head, there's been blood everywhere. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

• 20:09Kendall Rae?

  I highly doubt, especially in the chaos of a situation like this, that you would be able to clearly see two gunshot wounds, especially if there was as much blood as he says there was. And investigators later did find two shell casings in the room, but I just can't imagine that Caleb spent any time in this so-called panic, looking for shell casings to determine how many gunshot wounds there were. Plus, and I wonder how many of you picked up on this, but not once during that entire seven-minute call did Caleb ever mention hearing any gunshots. So it's not like he can say, oh, I heard two gunshots and that's how I knew that, you know?

• 20:51Kendall Rae?

  And if he had heard gunshots, you would think, you would hope that he would run to the sound of those and try and protect his wife. And if that was the case, he would have come face to face with the shooter, right? And if we assume he genuinely didn't hear anything, how did he magically just go into their bedroom just after it happened? Now, there's also a lot of body cam footage available in this case, and captured on that body cam footage, an EMS worker says that they didn't think she'd been dead for very long. Meaning what? That Caleb just happened to walk into their bedroom right after an intruder killed her and he saw nobody and heard nothing?

• 21:36Kendall Rae?

  And it's not like they had a massive house. I mean, it was a very normal-sized home. And let's not forget, they also had two dogs. So you're telling me that an intruder came in the house and shot someone twice? And neither dog lost their shit? And I mean, of course, we don't know at this point if he has stated that he heard anything. I mean, maybe he just neglected to mention that during this seven minute call, but I feel like that is something that you would say right away. But I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that. And in a little bit here, we're going to be kind of circling back to what he heard versus what he didn't hear. So we'll be kind of going over that again.

• 22:19Kendall Rae?

  But I just think it was so weird that it wasn't mentioned on the call. And then another thing I'm sure a lot of you picked up on and are wondering about is the fact that he said he wasn't sleeping in their bedroom. Why? As we know, he said that he was sleeping in their two daughters' room when this all happened. Listen again.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  I'm in the bedroom with her right now. My daughter's in their room.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  So you're not, you are not with the children?

• 22:45Speaker 03

  I was with the children when it happened.

• 22:47Speaker 04

  Okay, but you're not with them now?

• 22:49Speaker 03

  No, they're in their room. They're not even awake.

• 22:51Kendall Rae?

  Now here is what specifically is so interesting to me about that. Later on, in that same body cam footage that was taken at the scene, Caleb says that he wasn't in the room because his wife told him to sleep on the couch. Not the girl's room, the couch. She told me to sleep on the couch and I was coughing. I shouldn't have listened. I shouldn't have listened. Now, if that's true, why wasn't he on the couch? I'm confused. And also just to note, their daughters were about nine and 12 at the time. And we have been told that they were asleep, or at least reportedly asleep that entire time.

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• 25:44Kendall Rae?

  Now, by far, one of the weirdest things, I think probably the thing that stands out to me. The most potentially is the fact that he didn't really seem to care about their daughter's safety. He had been asked by the dispatcher multiple times to go and check on his daughters, go check on the girls. Why would that not be your top priority? I mean, any good parent wouldn't even have to be told to do that. I guess he could argue that he didn't think the intruder was still in the house, so he figured they were safe. But how would you for sure know that? And as a parent, I am not leaving my kids' side for a second if there's a fraction of

• 26:25Kendall Rae?

  a possibility that someone with a gun who just shot my spouse could still be in my house.

• 26:31Speaker 04

  The juveniles, are they okay? Have you checked on them?

• 26:34Speaker 03

  They're, I haven't checked on.

• 26:37Speaker 04

  Okay, can, can you go check on the juveniles for me?

• 26:41Speaker 03

  The police is here, the police is here.

• 26:45Speaker 04

  Can you go check on the juveniles for me?

• 26:48Speaker 03

  Wait, the cops just called, they just, they're just last, they just left.

• 26:51Speaker 04

  Okay, I need you to go check on the juveniles for me, okay?

• 26:54Kendall Rae?

  But one of the biggest red flags to me, probably even more than not checking on the daughters, honestly, is the fact that Caleb was so quick to mention that the garage door was open. For obvious reasons, right? And we went over this a little bit earlier, but I timed it. It was 30 seconds in when he first mentioned it.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Do you still see anybody in the house?

• 27:21Speaker 03

  No, the door to the garage was wide open. Please hurry, please.

• 27:25Kendall Rae?

  And then he mentioned it again.

• 27:27Speaker 03

  The door to, leaving, to the garage door was wide open when I ran in there.

• 27:31Kendall Rae?

  And again?

• 27:32Speaker 03

  The, the, the door, there's a side door in my garage door that's open.

• 27:36Kendall Rae?

  And again?

• 27:38Speaker 03

  I don't know, there's, the door to the garage door was wide open.

• 27:41Kendall Rae?

  So it certainly seems like he just really wanted them to know that, hey, this is how the intruder got in. And let's talk about that garage door for a second, because this is also a big red flag in the case. And for some context, the door in question wasn't the big garage door like the one that you open when you drive your car in. It was just- The regular side door to the garage, like a normal door that just lets you in and out of the garage. And he doesn't outright say that's how they came in, but obviously that's the insinuation, seeing as there is no other sign of forced entry. And get this, while officers were on the scene, the body cam footage picked up the moment when two officers first noticed that the side door was open. And they also noticed that the center console of Caleb's Ford

• 28:25Kendall Rae?

  truck was open. And there's something else I want you to pay attention to in this clip before we start it. Notice that the officer right in the beginning says to another officer, "Watch him." And we'll circle back to that later.

• 28:38Speaker 07

  Hold on. Cory, do you watch him? Yep.

• 28:44Speaker 07

  Yes, one person only. Oh, that door's open over there. Back, that back door's open.

• 28:53Speaker 07

  Is that laid outside? Because I can't see. Is that a closet?

• 29:01Speaker 07

  Okay. The center console of the truck. It is.

• 29:06Kendall Rae?

  And the plot thickens because I'm sure a lot of you can already guess what Caleb had in the center console of his truck. His gun. And before I play you this next clip, I also want you to pay attention to the officer's face, specifically at the end of this clip, because I think this guy was catching on to things pretty quick. I'm pretty sure all of the officers were, and we'll again, circle back to that in a sec. What do you think?

• 29:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 29:31Speaker 06

  Um, the back, the back door is open. There's like a door on the side right there. It's open, so. You guys clear the garage, everything? Yeah. We didn't, the truck, the, the, the center console of the truck's open. And that's where he said he keeps his gun, so.

• 29:53Kendall Rae?

  You see the eyes at that?

• 29:56Kendall Rae?

  Yeah. He's given side eye, quite literally. Now, not to get ahead of myself, but they did end up determining that Ashley was killed with a 9mm handgun, which just so happens to be the same kind of gun that was now missing from Caleb's truck. So, based on how everything looked, one might assume that an intruder broke in through that side garage door, stole Caleb's gun, and then entered the house to shoot Ashley twice. In my opinion, and I'm sure the majority of you agree, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Aside from everything I've laid out so far, I mean, just how ridiculous it all sounds, and plus, if you have been consuming true crime for any length of time, or just have

• 30:39Kendall Rae?

  like a fairly functioning brain, you know that this looks just so staged immediately. But here's the craziest part, and what truly makes this make zero sense, is there was a refrigerator on the inside of that open garage door. It was probably because Ashley and Caleb, I'm guessing, didn't really use that side garage door very much, so maybe they had the fridge just blocking it. So, my point is, the fridge is in front of the door, on the inside of the garage, yet someone was able to move the fridge from the outside?

• 31:21Kendall Rae?

  I guess they could have shoved the garage door hard enough to move the fridge, but it doesn't seem very logical. You'd have to believe that this intruder happened to open this door that was blocked by a fridge, and then happened to find the gun in the truck, and then happened to get past the two dogs without setting them off in any way, and then happened to shoot someone twice and leave without being seen. That all happens to just be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. And circling back again to something we talked about earlier, about whether Caleb claimed to have heard the intruder or not, there is body cam footage where you can faintly hear

• 32:04Kendall Rae?

  him in the background say, "I heard the gun, I froze, and then I ran." But I stand on my opinion that he didn't hear anything, because there was nothing to hear.

• 32:19Speaker 03

  And then I ran and the door to the door to the garage was wide open. And then I.

• 32:31Kendall Rae?

  Dude, just look at the officer's face. He looks like he is not buying this shit at all.

• 32:37Speaker 07

  How long were you here before we got here? Like 20 seconds?

• 32:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, not too long. Cause I think I seen your guys' lights.

• 32:46Speaker 07

  No cars came driving out of here?

• 32:48Speaker 03

  No, I didn't see nothing.

• 32:50Speaker 07

  Wait, I didn't see anything either, all down high?

• 32:52Speaker 03

  And I came first one, it came in, I started going fast and they said.

• 32:56Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  I hit my sign and then I turned the sign off and raised down so I wouldn't scare no one. I couldn't find it the first time.

• 33:03Speaker 07

  Well, that, that, the back, that back, the side door is what's open.

• 33:07Speaker 03

  It's open still.

• 33:08Speaker 07

  It is. There was a fridge in front of it.

• 33:11Kendall Rae?

  There's a fridge in front of it. I hear her talking about that. But yeah, of course, I don't know what was going through their heads, but it seems like in their conversation, they are very much expressing their degree of sus to each other. I got here right before you. I didn't see anyone. Seems like they're definitely, you know, catching on to what is happening here. And Caleb's just making it so obvious, right? He just seems so fake. Something else that I want to know is at what point did Caleb actually go to the garage himself? Before even making this call and see that the garage door was open? He said that he was in the girl's room when it happened, right?

• 33:53Kendall Rae?

  And then he found his wife in their room, shot, knew that she was shot twice. When did he have the time before making the call to go and check on the garage door? Like you, you really went and took a look at that before you called 911? It's definitely not impossible to think that maybe he did go run around the house really quick? Before looking for the alleged intruder before calling 911? But even if you were to start looking for the intruder, you would think you would, again, you would hope that he would call 911 right away as he's running around doing that. But yeah, I'm curious to know what you guys think about the officer's reactions to everything that we're seeing on this body cam footage because.

• 34:37Kendall Rae?

  I just feel that you can really sense their skepticism right away. And even though they can be seen comforting him and even getting him a bucket at one point and paper towels as he's throwing up from all the crying, I feel like there's this underlying air of suspicion amongst them. And at two different points, one you saw earlier, you can hear the officer say, "Watch him." In this next clip, you can literally hear her say again that somebody needs to be watching him. Take a look.

• 35:05Speaker 07

  Hey, someone's watching him. Somebody needs to be watching him.

• 35:11Kendall Rae?

  She knows. So yeah, I just think that body camera footage alone is really eye opening. Now, there was a woman, I don't know if you noticed, that was sitting with Caleb in one of the clips I played out on the front porch. And all of my sources say that she was the grandmother of the girls, although it's not clarified anywhere if that was his mom or Ashley's mom. Either way, she's seen comforting him as the initial investigation is underway. Only after she consoled him for a little bit, did he finally agree to be looked at by paramedics. Then he voluntarily agreed to be brought back to the police station where he answered questions into the early morning hours. Back at the scene though, the investigation was really just beginning. While Caleb is still being consoled, TIP City Police Officers secured the area, set

• 35:55Kendall Rae?

  up a perimeter, and used resources like canines and drones to try and locate a suspect. However, nothing was found during these efforts, of course. They also called in the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation, who definitely had more resources than them, as well as the Miami County Victims Witness Program, who came in as well to offer support to Caleb and his girls. And I really commend the TIP City Police Department for not only taking action quickly, and I think their immediate response to the scene is excellent, but also just recognizing what they were and weren't equipped to handle. TIP City is not a very big city by any means, and it's great to hear that they were able to so quickly bring in further assistance. They later brought in even more help, including the Dayton FBI office, the Miami County Sheriff's

• 36:40Kendall Rae?

  Office, and the Miami County Prosecutor's Office. And as you can imagine, from the outside looking in, this could not have been any More shocking to this community. These types of crimes don't happen often there, if at all, in Tipp City, let alone to a couple with such good standing, I guess you could say. People were totally shocked, absolutely confused and honestly scared for their own safety, understandably, because despite what I've already shared with you, nobody knew that Caleb was the number one suspect. Neighbors thought there was, you know, some madman on the loose, which actually prompted the Tipp City Chief to issue a statement assuring people that this case was an isolated event.

• 37:24Kendall Rae?

  Although naturally, that didn't stop people from worrying or speculating. After an open prayer at the Christian Life Center on February 18th, Chief Greg Atkins issued another statement attempting to kind of quash the rumors that a suspect had confessed. It reads in part, "The Tipp City Police Department has recently been made aware of claims that a suspect is in custody and has confessed in the homicide investigation involving Ashley Flynn. This information is false and was never released by the Tipp City Police Department, the City of Tipp City or any collaborating law enforcement partners. The release and spread of unverified information is not only untrue, but also deeply detrimental to the Flynn family and unfair to those involved in this investigation.

• 38:08Kendall Rae?

  Our community continues to grieve and the department recognizes the fear and concerns some residents may be experiencing. As previously stated, investigators believe this was an isolated incident targeted at this specific residence. At this time, there is no information indicating the community or general public is in danger." Meanwhile, while all of this is starting to unfold, the support for Ashley absolutely flooded the town. Literally on the day of her murder, a prayer gathering was held at the Life Wise Academy and the online support was also mounting big time. Messages from fellow churchgoers, students, parents, teachers and neighbors expressed what a light Ashley had been in their lives. I mean, she really impacted a lot of people,

• 38:53Kendall Rae?

  it sounds like, and most of them talking about it really emphasized- Her Christian faith and her kind spirit. And as I mentioned, there was also an open prayer held at her church on the 18th. And the town started putting up these red and white ribbons in her honor pretty much right away. Also, a GoFundMe was launched as well, and in less than 24 hours, it had raised more than $80,000, which is really impressive and I think just speaks to how rocked this community was and how loved Ashley was. Right now, it sits at just over $175,000 and it's still growing. The proceeds, of course, are going to her daughters, who were and are being cared for by family members.

• 39:34Kendall Rae?

  Several local businesses and organizations decided to raise money as well through different fundraiser events, and they also have collectively raised a significant amount of money. Everyone in this community really rallied together to offer whatever support they could to these girls. And if there's any light in the darkness, it's seeing how loved and cared for they are. And my heart just breaks for them. I mean, that support and love is going to be so needed in their lives because not only did they lose their mom, but they're losing their dad too in a very different way, of course, but it's still devastating.

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• 42:30Kendall Rae?

  And the reason I say they're losing their dad is because on February 19th, 2026, only three days after she was killed, so pretty quick turnaround here, Caleb Flynn was arrested for the murder of Ashley Flynn.

• 42:50Kendall Rae?

  Step four.

• 42:51Speaker 01

  What do you want evidence?

• 42:52Kendall Rae?

  What's that?

• 42:53Speaker 01

  I want evidence. Turn around and inform me, sir. We're not going to discuss that here. Put your hands together for me like. Is Patrick calling? What's that? Is Patrick calling? Tipp City Police Chief Gregory Atkins is calling this case complex, but says investigators had enough evidence for a probable cause to charge Ashley's husband with murder. Caleb is officially being charged with one count of homicide, two counts of felonious assault, and two counts of tampering with evidence. Ashley was shot and killed in her home early Monday morning, and her two children were in the home but weren't injured. Multiple agencies, including the FBI, Ohio BCI, and Miami County Sheriff's Office, assisted in the investigation, providing various resources. Chief Atkins.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  said in a statement in part quote, "As previously stated, the family and community deserve a thorough, professional, and compassionate investigation into this very sensitive matter."

• 43:46Kendall Rae?

  So there you have it. What a relief. One count of homicide, as well as two counts each of felonious assault and tampering with evidence. The following day, he was arraigned via video conference, during which time, of course, he pleaded not guilty. His bond was set at a whopping $2 million, and he was ordered to go no contact with his children. His defense attorney, Patrick Mulligan, seemed very upset about this outcome, saying, quote, "We are both disappointed and concerned about the short timeline and seeming rush to judgment in this case. When the government runs out of leads or can't develop leads, and looks at a surviving spouse in cases such as these, the chance of a wrongful conviction

• 44:26Kendall Rae?

  increases." Also, his attorney said that the bond was unnecessarily high, and that it would prevent Caleb from attending his wife's funeral. Can you believe that? I'm sorry, what, sir? Nobody wants you there, bro. Can you just imagine how offensive that would be if he had the nerve to show his face at his wife's funeral after killing her? And it's pretty obvious he did it, right? Innocent until proven guilty, again. But nobody needs you there. How much more difficult that would be for her friends and family to be around you right now? Just, ew, why would you even say that? And the reality is, the majority of people do not see this as a rush to judgment. In

• 45:11Kendall Rae?

  fact, the chief of police put out a very confident statement, basically saying, "Actually, there was no rush to judgment. We just did our jobs well." Chief Adkins also said, quote, "I am confident that the case ultimately presented in a court of law will reflect diligence, thoroughness, accuracy, and integrity. The family and the community deserve nothing less from our department and the assisting agencies."

• 45:36Speaker 03

  All right, this is case 26 CRA 285, Caleb C. Flynn. Mr. Flynn, you have several charges here. Count one is a murder charge, is a count felony.

• 45:52Speaker 07

  of the first degree. Count two is a, uh, two and three are both felony assault assault charges, second degree felonies. Count four is tampering with evidence, a third degree felony. And, uh, that's count four. Count five is tampering with evidence, a third degree felony. Mr. Flynn, we're going to set your case for a preliminary hearing for next week on February 26th at 1:00 PM. You do have the right to have an attorney represent you. If you cannot afford one, you can apply to the public defender's office and they'll determine if you're eligible for a court-appointed attorney. Do you understand all of that? Yes, sir. Is there anything you'd like to say to the court with regards to a bond in this case?

• 46:37Speaker 07

  I'm so sorry you're cut out there. Is there anything you'd like to tell the court with respect to bond in this case? Uh, I'm not, I don't really understand that, so no, sir. Okay, so the court has to establish a bond, sir, uh, to, uh, ensure that your appearance, okay? Um, so the court will establish a bond and you have the right to tell me, hey, I'm not a flight risk, I am a flight risk, or any of that. No, sir. Is there anything you would want to tell me about that? Sir, I, I just want to take care of my daughters, I'm not a risk, I'm... Mm-hmm. I understand. Okay. Yes, sir. Well, the court is going to order a $2 million blanket bond in this case, covering

• 47:22Speaker 07

  all of your charges. Should you post bond in this case, the court will order that you be on pre-trial services, electronically monitored house arrest. Furthermore, the court will order that you will have no contact whatsoever, directly or indirectly through a third party, with [BLEEP].

• 47:43Speaker 07

  You are not permitted to speak to them in any way, shape, or form. That includes electronic communications. You are not allowed to communicate through family members whatsoever. Do you understand all of that? Oh, yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. We're adjourned. Thank you, sir.

• 48:01Kendall Rae?

  I just find this whole, I just want to take care of my daughter's line to be such bullshit. And again, I know he's innocent until proven guilty. I keep having to say that, but clearly you do not care about your daughters if you killed your wife. If you are actually guilty, you do not care about them, period. And it's just so difficult for me, and I'm sure the majority of you, to understand how a parent especially could murder their spouse, could murder the mother of their children who birthed them, who gave them to you, gave them life, and take them away from your kids.

• 48:42Kendall Rae?

  I mean, that is just probably the worst possible thing you could do to your own children. And to do it while the kids were in the next room, allegedly? I mean, it's sick. And just seeing this shift, this very eerie shift from these old American Idol clips, which I know I wasn't able to play, but I, you know, told you what he said. He is talking about how much he treasures his wife, and now he's accused of this? What happened? What motive would Caleb have to do something so evil? And of course, if we look at historical motives in cases involving a husband killing a wife,

• 49:22Kendall Rae?

  or even the other way around, of course, money and sex are the top two motives. Right now, their financial situation has not been made public, but I do know that's being looked into, and I'm sure will come to light at some point if there is anything going on there. And also to note, in early March, Ashley's family began filing court documents, digging into the couple's finances. This included looking into a life insurance policy with Caleb listed as the primary beneficiary. They also want access- To the couple's bank accounts, retirement accounts, real estate and other financial records. And her family has said that Caleb, quote, "has the motive, opportunity and means to dissipate

• 50:03Kendall Rae?

  these assets, to transfer them to third parties or to otherwise place them beyond the reach of the children and the estate." They are also asking the court to issue a domestic violence protection order against Caleb, which would stop him from accessing money from the couple's shared bank accounts. He could still access money for necessary living expenses, but nothing more than that. And it sounds like Ashley's family is really doing everything they can to protect her assets, especially because those assets deserve to go to her children, of course. Their family has released a few statements, including the one about their opinion on Caleb's arrest. It reads, "Our hearts are shattered. Ashley brought endless light into our world and we are trying to navigate this immense loss.

• 50:48Kendall Rae?

  Our family believes this arrest was made carefully and not without serious consideration. After speaking with both local and federal authorities, we trust the proper steps were taken and the process is being handled appropriately. We kindly ask for our privacy as we work through this complex situation. We are clinging to our faith, just as Ashley did each and every day." Her family also changed her celebration of life from a public event to a private one in the wake of all the attention that her case is getting. And I can only imagine how truly devastating and shocking this time must be for them. And honestly, it's gotta be really confusing in a way, too. I mean, here was Caleb, someone that they thought they knew, only to realize that he

• 51:32Kendall Rae?

  was a wolf dressed in sheep's clothing. Or it's possible that they already knew or had some feelings that maybe Caleb was a bad person. You know, people that are collectively looking into this case, we have to remember that we don't know the ins and outs of their relationship and their family. We don't know what everything looked like behind closed doors, what was going on, what their family knew about what was going on and... We definitely don't know her family's opinion on Caleb before everything happened. Which brings me to the other alleged motive in this case. Sex. Now, before I go any further, I need to give the disclaimer of all disclaimers in this episode.

• 52:15Kendall Rae?

  What I'm about to share with you is purely speculation, okay? It has not been confirmed in any capacity by anyone associated with this case. That includes family members and law enforcement. And in most cases, I probably wouldn't even mention this, given how speculative it is. I really try to stay away from things like this. But I know it has already really been making its rounds. It's brought up constantly in discussion on this case. It's something that I'm sure a lot of you already know about, so here it is. Within days of Ashley's murder, a rumor began circulating that Caleb was having an affair, which I'm sure we've put this together now. Specifically that he was sleeping with a woman at their church.

• 52:58Kendall Rae?

  I won't be naming her, but she was a worship leader at the Christian Life Center, meaning the two of them spent a lot of time together. And I say that because it could very well just explain why they spent time together. It could be as innocent as that. But the rumors themselves are obviously not innocent. And images of these so-called court documents have began circulating, which of course has made people believe this rumor even more. Of course, just to be really, really clear, there is no verification that these images are real. In fact, they come from websites that are known to pump out fake news. And I know I keep saying this, but we truly do live in the day and age where anything can be doctored.

• 53:41Kendall Rae?

  And until actual investigators confirm this to be real, I ask you to please use your discretion with what I'm about to say. Take it with a grain of salt. But in these alleged documents, there are hundreds of messages between Caleb and this woman. And in one message, sent at 12:42 a.m. on February 16th, he allegedly text her, "It's almost done." Now, if this is real, if, that would have been sent before he called 911, which looks a hell of a lot like premeditation. And clearly, investigators and prosecutors have a lot more evidence than we are aware of at this point. And maybe some of this is it, if it is real.

• 54:24Kendall Rae?

  However, I will play the 911 call for you from this woman's mom. And this is a real call that was made, and I do think it's worth sharing. So let's take a listen.

• 54:35Speaker 03

  Miami County 911? Yeah, somebody's at my door, and they're not leaving. Um, there's a lot going on right now, and they're just banging and banging on my door.

• 54:45Kendall Rae?

  What's the address?

• 54:46Speaker 03

  Ringing the doorbell. It's, um...

• 54:48Kendall Rae?

  Know who it is?

• 54:49Speaker 03

  Hold on. No, it could be like news reporters or something. I don't know, but they're banging on the door. And you know, like, um, the Flynn case? My daughter, um, is, um, one of the worship leaders at our church. And so there's a whole bunch of accusations going on, on the internet about her. And she's been staying with me, just, you know, to stay see and just see her as being home and stuff. And whoever it is, they just won't leave my door. And they're just banging and ringing the doorbell. I see like a man and a woman. They're not in uniform, they're in jeans.

• 55:15Kendall Rae?

  Okay, are they white, black?

• 55:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, white. White male or female? Yeah.

• 55:20Kendall Rae?

  Okay.

• 55:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, they just can't stop.

• 55:23Kendall Rae?

  How long have they been there?

• 55:24Speaker 03

  Um, for like, five minutes, if it's been going on. No one stays that long, and the people ringing and knocking. Please, guys, go to the bedroom.

• 55:32Kendall Rae?

  And you don't recognize who they are?

• 55:33Speaker 03

  I'm sorry?

• 55:35Kendall Rae?

  You don't recognize them?

• 55:36Speaker 03

  No, I don't recognize them at all. I would check my ring doorbell.

• 55:39Kendall Rae?

  Okay, what is your name?

• 55:40Speaker 03

  And there's a whole bunch of them, like, at our church and stuff like that, too. So, I'm, it could be... No, no, no, no. Come on.

• 55:49Kendall Rae?

  What's your phone number, ma'am? Did you see what kind of vehicle they came in?

• 55:51Speaker 03

  No, I looked at my other camera that had another angle, and I don't even see a car out there.

• 55:55Kendall Rae?

  Okay.

• 55:56Speaker 03

  But everyone's just been so, like, nervous and on edge.

• 56:00Kendall Rae?

  Okay. And you said there's someone that goes to that church staying with you, and that's why you think they're there?

• 56:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, my daughter. Because this whole, like, Flynn case, please. Um, this, okay, my daughter is the worship leader at the church. And, um, that's too much. Um, and, uh...

• 56:19Speaker 03

  So there's like a bunch of gossip on the internet of like accusing my daughter of like being involved with her husband and stuff, you know, lies and um. So you think they're there to sue her? Yeah, probably, maybe, I'm not sure, but I just, she's so afraid and that's why she's staying at my house right now, just because of all this gossip online. Right. And these people are still at the door, just standing there. Okay. Hold on for me just one second. I'm gonna mute you for just one second, okay? Okay. Okay, one of the officers just said that he's out there, do you see him? No, okay, he's not back in there. Alright, okay, yeah, it's gonna be the, the police department.

• 57:03Speaker 03

  So is that the police department? Yeah. Okay, okay, thank you. Uh huh, bye bye. Alright, bye.

• 57:09Kendall Rae?

  So as you can hear in the call, the mom is saying it's gossip, it's rumors, um, so who knows? Now, on the subject of alleged motives and court documents, there is something else I should mention. There have also been allegations that Ashley was pregnant. In the criminal complaint that was released, it said that Caleb, quote, "did purposely cause the death of another or the unlawful termination of another's pregnancy." Now, of course, I am not an attorney and I encourage anyone with a legal background to chime in on this, maybe leave a comment, but I did do some research and this doesn't necessarily mean what you may think it means.

• 57:51Kendall Rae?

  From my understanding, prosecutors will often use the exact phrasing of a statute in the charging documents. And in Ohio, aggravated murder or murder statutes often do include fetus protection clauses. So, to my understanding, basically, they could have included that part in there because that's just how the statute is written. The medical examiner says that they will not be releasing any information from Ashley's autopsy until all this is over, so that's not something I expect we'll be getting confirmation on anytime soon. But if that is true, that is incredibly disturbing.

• 58:33Kendall Rae?

  And of course, because this case has gotten so much attention, there's so much discussion online, that's not where the theories and speculation ends.

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• 59:50Kendall Rae?

  If you have been a listener or watcher of my show for a while now, you might remember the case of Amanda Blackburn, which I covered back in 2024. I'm going to link that episode in the description and show notes of this episode because I won't be doing a full deep dive on it today, of course, but I do bring it up for a very specific reason. The premise of Amanda's case was that she was murdered while in her home during a horrific but totally random home invasion. She had a young son, and she was currently pregnant with her second when it happened, and her body was discovered by her pastor-husband, Davy Blackburn, after he returned home from the gym on November 10, 2015.

• 1:00:32Kendall Rae?

  And in the aftermath of her murder, Davy wrote a book and made it one of his life missions to tell her story through the church in a way that focuses on forgiveness, healing, and redemption. And at face value, these cases, of course, look similar. Pastor-husband loses wife to murder during a random home invasion. The difference is, though, Davy was not charged- With his wife's murder. And the reason I'm even mentioning this at all is because guess where Davy Blackburn gave one of his inspirational speeches only three months before Ashley's murder? At the Christian Life Center where she and Caleb were members. Now, listen, of course, I cannot say that he went to church that day, that he was even there,

• 1:01:16Kendall Rae?

  or if he had any idea who Davy even was. But in my opinion, I think it's interesting because it's not impossible that he could have been there, or at least have been aware of Davy and his story. And I'm definitely not the only one who thinks this. The whole idea that Caleb may have been inspired by Davy is a discussion that's been happening online for quite some time now. And of course, this speculation, again, it definitely doesn't make it true. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious about this. Davy has gained a lot of notoriety for his story. And when you think about the fact that Caleb wanted notoriety, I mean, American Idol being

• 1:01:59Kendall Rae?

  a great example of that, it just makes me question if he did know about his story and if maybe it served as some kind of sick inspiration for him. Because it wouldn't surprise me if that's the kind of attention that Caleb would really like. But let's switch gears now. Let's talk about the legal proceedings, the criminal complaint, all of that jazz. I did mention the criminal complaint a little bit earlier when we were talking about the pregnancy speculation. And that document outlines the criminal charges against him, including the single count of murder and two counts of felonious assault and tampering with evidence. And I was curious what specifically was said about the tampering with evidence charges.

• 1:02:39Kendall Rae?

  And it's not too detailed, but it reads Caleb Flynn murdered his wife in the morning hours of February 16th, 2026. Officers were led astray by the staging of the crime scene. And it never specifically said what was staged, but I think we can reasonably assume here that they're probably talking about things like the garage door being left open and the same with the truck's center console. But I am I'm curious if there's anything else in the house that this might reference. And also, the complaint never mentions anything about the weapon, besides the fact that it was a 9mm handgun. And I am very interested to hear if that was ever found. Now, when it comes to hearings and all that,

• 1:03:23Kendall Rae?

  this case has had its fair share of delays, which is always frustrating. The preliminary hearing that was set for February 26th was postponed by a month to March 26th at the request of the defense. And in addition to that, Caleb also waived his right to a speedy trial. And all that means is that he and his lawyers agree that this case does not have to be tried within 90 days. In the waiver of time that he and his attorney filed, there appeared to be several new charges outlined, including two counts of intimidation of a witness, one count of obstructing justice, and two firearm specifications. This does not mean that he is facing those charges, though. Basically, what this means is if the prosecution wanted to later add on these charges,

• 1:04:06Kendall Rae?

  the waiving of the speedy trial still would apply. Now, as for the delay of the hearing itself, that was something that his attorney had asked for. He was very disturbed at how much attention this case was getting online, specifically the social media aspect. So he wanted to push it back to ensure that no mistakes were made.

• 1:04:24Speaker 03

  New developments at 5:00. A delay in the court case of a man accused of killing his wife and trying to hide the evidence. Police arrested Caleb Flynn days after they found Ashley Flynn dead in their home. NewsCenter 7's Mike Campbell has covered this murder since the start. And Mike, you spoke with Caleb Flynn's lawyer. He asked for this delay. Gabrielle, I spoke with Patrick Mulligan, a well-known defense lawyer in Dayton. He says everyone has seen coverage of what happened here at this house. And he says everyone's heard and read a lot of social media comments as well. But he says that's all been a one-sided story, and a delay is necessary to make sure that mistakes aren't made. I have not experienced this level of publicity.

• 1:05:10Speaker 05

  On any case that I've had in my forty one years as a lawyer.

• 1:05:14Speaker 03

  Patrick Mulligan told me it feels like a feeding frenzy on his client Caleb Flynn.

• 1:05:19Speaker 05

  It always amazes me at the stupid statements that are made on social media.

• 1:05:24Speaker 03

  Mulligan told me Caleb Flynn's case is not ready for a preliminary hearing just a week after his arrest. Mulligan said there is a lot of hate and other emotions being directed at his client. Caleb Flynn's lawyer is trying to slow down what he calls a runaway rush to judgment.

• 1:05:40Speaker 05

  People who are hungry for any information are liable to believe anything that they hear.

• 1:05:49Speaker 03

  Mulligan told me he has talked to Caleb Flynn, but did not share details of those conversations. He said a delay is also good for police and prosecutors waiting for test results and information.

• 1:06:01Speaker 05

  That's the question when you go to court. What can they prove? And there has to be real evidence rather than rumors and speculation.

• 1:06:08Kendall Rae?

  And in addition to all of that, his attorney also moved to limit public access to this case. Similarly to pushing the hearing, he said the publicity of the case wouldn't make it fair for his client. So the public shouldn't have access to anything until the case is resolved. That, however, was denied on March sixteenth. And then only two days later, Caleb was indicted by a grand jury on multiple felonies. His charges now include one count of aggravated murder, three counts of murder, two counts of felonious assault, three counts of tampering with evidence, and two counts of intimidation of an attorney, victim, or witness in a criminal case. Curious about that one.

• 1:06:49Kendall Rae?

  He also was arraigned the next day where he pleaded not guilty and his new bond was set at three point five million dollars. And because of this indictment, the preliminary hearing set for March twenty sixth was bypassed. And instead, he returned to court on March thirtieth for a pretrial hearing. And then during that hearing, the initial trial date was set for April twenty eighth. Now, looking at Caleb's charges, a few things stand out to me. And one of the biggest things, like I just mentioned, were the two counts of intimidation. It doesn't. Specify who this was in reference to, but some people online have wondered if maybe this was about their two daughters. After all, they were inside the home when all of this happened.

• 1:07:30Kendall Rae?

  Reportedly, they were asleep through everything, including the commotion after the fact, but there is some chatter, and I'll be real clear. This is chatter online about the possibility of Caleb having given the girls something the night before to ensure they didn't wake up. And I just have to be so, so, so clear here. I am not stating this as fact. This has just been widely circulated, and there's absolutely no evidence of this. This is just what people are thinking because it doesn't make sense to a lot of people that they could have slept through all of this, but I don't know. My kids can sleep through anything, it seems. Even my three-month-old baby. I mean, the things he sleeps through blows my mind. Same with my daughter. So I don't know.

• 1:08:11Kendall Rae?

  But anyways, leading up to the initial trial date, Caleb's defense attorneys once again filed a motion to limit the public's access to court records. Although, they actually withdrew their own motion. As for the state of Ohio and Miami County prosecutors, they filed their own motions in mid-April, specifically asking for a four-day continuance of the trial. They wanted more time to review and turn over evidence, which sounds like they have a lot of. Prosecutor Paul Watkins said that they have supplied two terabytes of data for this case so far, and they are receiving new evidence every day. And a judge ruled in favor of this, pushing back the trial to May 4th. However, it was delayed again, and it's currently slated to start on September 17th, 2026.

• 1:08:55Kendall Rae?

  And the witness list for both the prosecution and the defense have already been submitted. So we do have a glimpse at the people who we can expect to hear from. The state's witness list has 172 names on it, and the defense has 128. I can't imagine that many people are actually going to take the stand. Maybe, but that's a lot. But what's really interesting here is Ashley's two daughters are on the list. I don't know if they'll end up taking the stand and I, I don't know how I feel about that because that would be so incredibly traumatizing for them, I feel. Ultimately, it's their decision and their family's decision. And they were the only other people in that house that night.

• 1:09:39Kendall Rae?

  So I could, I could see it happening. And just when you scroll through the rest of the names, it makes me think there's going to be a lot of digital evidence. For example, on the state's list, we see things like Instagram, WhatsApp, GroupMe, Snap, Gmail, things like that. So there's clearly a lot we don't know. There's a lot more to this case than what we've been told. And it does make me think more about the affair and that really possibly being part of this because to have all of these social media apps being part of it and all these, you know, digital communication platforms,

• 1:10:22Kendall Rae?

  it makes you think of what was leading up to this murder. And what's also interesting, which brings me back to the possibility of financial motive, is there are a bunch of banks listed like Wells Fargo, Ally Bank, Citibank, Fifth Third Bank, JP Morgan Chase. We even see Ring LLC on there. So maybe there's Ring footage from the neighborhood that proves nobody broke in. I mean, I don't know, but that seems like it could certainly be a possibility. I mean, so many people have Ring cameras or some type of security camera these days, but especially because Ring specifically is named. It makes you think maybe there's that sort of digital evidence here as well.

• 1:11:05Kendall Rae?

  And another name on this list, of course, caught my attention as well and adds a little bit more credibility to that rumor of the affair. But it is the name of the woman associated with this alleged affair. And her name appears on both the state and the defense list. Another interesting name that's on there is the church's pastor, Jordan Hanson. But his name only appears on the state's witness list. Now, Jordan has been vocal about his support of Ashley's entire family, which isn't surprising. She was a beloved member of that church and he is the pastor there. Now, he did say something back in March, though, that definitely turned some heads. This was interesting.

• 1:11:47Kendall Rae?

  Okay, so this happened during one of his sermons. He mentioned that woman, the alleged mistress, and how she resigned without explanation, which is odd for him to mention in a sermon, right? And I actually do have a clip of this to play for you. And I'm interested to hear what you guys think. Okay, listen to this.

• 1:12:10Speaker 03

  I want to thank you, our church family, for the prayers, support, and love that you've shared with me and our staff. We are deeply grateful to rely on God's comfort, abundant grace, and wisdom during these past few emotionally challenging days. I also want to inform you that one of our worship leaders submitted her resignation without explanation. We do not know why. Pastor Josh Bonsalar will continue to oversee and lead weekend services, tech, and worship as he has for these past few years. We continue to support, care, and pray for Ashley Flynn's family.

• 1:12:54Speaker 03

  She and her extended family mean a lot to me personally and to our church. Her life and faith have impacted thousands, maybe tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands. We will continue to fully cooperate with law enforcement as they carry out their difficult work during this ongoing investigation. And the one thing I respectfully ask from each of you is to guard hearts, to resist the temptation to speculate or gossip. Much of this is fueled by social media posts from individuals with no direct knowledge or facts. Unfounded rumors only make the situation worse. And each of us are called to love, mourn, care.

• 1:13:38Speaker 03

  And keep our eyes fixed on Jesus.

• 1:13:44Kendall Rae?

  Certainly interesting, right? The timing in which he stated that, I think, is the oddest part. I removed her name, if you didn't notice, for privacy reasons. But I can see why her abrupt leave has definitely caught people's attention and this pastor stating it in front of everybody. However, on the other hand, I can see a possibility where she could have left due to the sheer amount of attention she was getting from all of this and maybe for fears of her safety. I really want to try and reserve judgment here until there's legitimate proof of anything. So I'm not going to rehash that conversation again, but I thought it was worth mentioning

• 1:14:28Kendall Rae?

  because it has been a huge part of the conversation of this case, and I do understand why. And that, you guys, is about where all of this stands as of now. I will have my eyes on the trial, of course, if it even happens in September. I mean, given how everything has been going, I would not be shocked if it keeps getting pushed. But what matters more than anything here, and I hope what people keep at the front of their minds, is Ashley and the justice that she deserves. This was an innocent, loving, well-respected mother, a friend, a daughter, a community member who should have never been taken from the world. And through everything that's been done in her honor, it's very obvious how big of

• 1:15:11Kendall Rae?

  an impact she really did make on so many people. She was killed just eight days before her 38th birthday, and I can only imagine how difficult the first birthday was without her. I do know that her family and friends still celebrated, though. So before I leave you today, I want to read one final message that was written on behalf of her family. It reads, "Today, our Ashley would have turned 38. With broken hearts, we choose to celebrate, only because Ashley was first to celebrate the people she loved. Her girls blew out candles on chocolate cupcakes, their mom's favorite, as neighborhood friends gathered to sing." Saying happy birthday and sent balloons with messages from all of us drifting gently

• 1:15:53Kendall Rae?

  towards heaven. Heaven, that's where her two girls know their mommy is now, watching over them every day. We miss her in ways words can't capture, but we hold tightly to this. Ashley's life was about pointing people to Jesus and showing them his love. And her legacy will live on in her daughters, in her parents, in her sister, and in the many lives she touched and influenced along the way. The way this community has rallied behind us and blessed our family is beyond comprehension. We are so grateful they walk with us as we take one day at a time, trusting God with every step. As a reminder, I will link the GoFundMe that was set up to support Ashley's kids in the description box and show notes of this episode. And I know

• 1:16:36Kendall Rae?

  any support they receive from you guys, whether that's monetary or not, will go a long way. I also wanted to put it out there to anyone connected to Ashley and her family that might see this, that we would love to support you guys through my foundation, Hire Hope, and offer a Hope Grant. So if you're interested, please reach out to us through our website, which is hirehope.org. You guys, please keep her family in your thoughts. They're going through an incredibly difficult time, especially her daughters. I just cannot imagine. And they're going to need that support going into the trial, whenever that does happen, because that, you know, just brings

• 1:17:16Kendall Rae?

  up a lot. And I'm sure they will find out about a lot. And it's just going to be very, very difficult and heavy for them. I will certainly be thinking of them as they, you know, continue on this path towards getting justice for Ashley. And I am feeling pretty confident that that is going to happen and happen soon. And another thing I wanted to mention is my company, Mile Hair Media, we have launched new summer merch. And we have created some really cute, beautiful, fun pieces. That is all launching Friday, June 19. So it will actually already be out by the time that this episode goes up. But all proceeds, 100 Of our merch from any of our shows, literally anything on our website.

• 1:18:01Kendall Rae?

  100% of that money goes towards the Higher Hope Foundation. That is it for me today, you guys. I definitely want to hear your thoughts on this case and let me know if you would like additional coverage on it around the time of the trial or maybe right before even depending on what comes out before then, which I don't think will be much, so it'll probably be post-trial. But yeah, let me know and I will see you guys next week. I will be back to discuss another case, but until then, stay safe out there.

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