Biden's Autopen TERMINATED? + Trump vs Income Tax, DC Shooter Updates & Tim Walz BUSTED | PBD Podcast | Ep. 693

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick dig into Trump’s move to cancel all executive orders signed by Biden via autopen & his plan to replace income tax with tariff revenue, fresh updates on the D. C. National Guard shooting near the White House, and mounting pressure on Tim Walz over his handling of Minnesota fraud scandals. ------ 🎄VT BLACK FRIDAY SALE: https://bit.ly/43QADrm 📕 REGISTER FOR BPW 2025 - FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH 2025: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:26Speaker 01

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• 0:59Speaker 02

  Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close, I could take sweet big story. I know this life meant for me.

• 1:07Speaker 03

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:16Speaker 03

  My son's right there.

• 1:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yang, I hope you had a good weekend because this guy in Minnesota named Tim Walz had a rough weekend. To say the least. And you know who came after him? Not some podcaster, not some mainstream media, not some local hater that doesn't like Tim because he's not good at video games. Not any of that stuff. You know who came after him? Minnesota's Department of Human Services. Uh oh, that's not true. And posted constantly all weekend long. Can you imagine the credibility of that? That's like, you're the president, okay? So, and RFK comes out calling out the president for doing some fraud. Like, just think, that's the equivalent of that happening. But that's what's going on right now in Minnesota. So I don't know how the turkey tasted for Tim, but it

• 2:10Patrick Bet-David?

  It must have been a, it must have been a. Yeah, we'll talk about it, but they, they brought receipts and they said he retaliated. And then, and then they showed, they showed the number of autism centers created in Minnesota year over year over year and the amount of cases and apparently some 86 Somalians came out and said, if you don't fund us, we're going to turn against you and we're going to tell the world about what you really did. You're racist. You're racist and we're going to put that fear in you. Anyways, it's a lot going on in Minnesota, folks. And for a lot of them, just chilling, just trying to do a podcast here, hanging out, you know, trying to get Adam to get married and have some kids and the over under right now, they're having a conversation on when they're going to have kids, before 50, after 50. Tom is talking about his, you know, considering a third. There's a lot of conversations that we're having right now.

• 2:55Patrick Bet-David?

  As a matter of fact, I'll be right back. Yeah. Okay. Go get him, Biz Doc, babe. He's done, but okay, so. Okay, I'm back. Trump, Trump, Trump, uh, Trump. That was actually really good. US may almost completely scrap income tax due to tariff revenue. The left will hate it, the left will hate it. Do you realize what happens if he eliminates income tax? It's Mount Rushmore. First of all, first of all, I don't know how they're going to do it, but just saying it is, is, okay. All right. Trump vows to permanently pause migration from third world countries. Trump says he's ending Biden executive orders signed without a pen. Folks, that's a scary one for a lot of different people. There's a guy named Anthony who's not too happy about it. There's another guy named Mark who's shivering a little bit, Vinny.

• 3:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I know this one guy named Mark. I don't know, you know, this, see, his last name's like a Millie type of thing. You know, this, this guy named Millie? Oh. Do you know him? There's another guy named Anthony. Oh, Fauci, it's like a French, yeah, Fauci. But that, but the question is. Miley Vanilli. Well, the question is, will the Supreme Court allow for that to happen? Uh, California was wasting 450 million, this, 450 million dollars on 911 calls. 911 system. Guess what happens? I know Vinny, Vinny's going to say some stuff about it. This, uh, uh, then we have Biden aides speeches apparently were written by Hollywood tied to something. Vinny doesn't want to tell me because he wants me to be surprised, but I want to know what Vinny's going to be telling us. Here in a minute, Trump touts lower drug prices as GOP preps for 2026.

• 4:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I am the affordability president. Tim Walz on Trump calling him seriously retarded over immigration policies. Release the MRI results is what Tim Walz said, but again, Tim, rough weekend, Comer, court will back Trump voiding Biden executive orders signed with Autopen. If he's right, floodgates of, I mean, it could be extremely, extremely nasty. Trump to hand Putin, Ukraine's occupied territories, that's a Telegraph story. Zelensky faces political peril as corruption scandals consumes up, consumes top eight. Make money, not war, Trump's real plan for peace in Ukraine. That's a Wall Street Journal story.

• 5:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Top five craziest laws hitting California in 2026. Wait till you hear this one. Tom's got some stuff that he wants to say about that. Wasserman Schultz, Trump deploying military in cities led to DC shootings. So Schultz blaming the president for the shooting. UK 1984, British businessman arrested over LinkedIn picture of himself holding gun in Florida. Can you imagine that? British businessman arrested over LinkedIn picture of himself holding gun in Florida. Black Friday online spending, they said it was going to be horrible, ended up being record breaking, 11.8 billion dollars as American shoppers embrace new AI technology inside Florida's next chapter. CEO predicts massive expansion

• 5:50Patrick Bet-David?

  as wealth surges into the state of Florida. Adam's got a story here with, what is this? Erica received $350,000 weeks before husband's Charlie Kirk assassination. Bizarre claims surfaces online. Okay. Pierce Morgan calls Tommy Robinson convicted thug and fraudster, slams him for allegedly encouraging hate among children for skin color. Maryland, James Patterson, author, claims Marilyn Monroe was murdered. An explosive new book theory. We know. Tom's got a ton on that. Apparently, I don't know why this is big news, but Rob was telling us it's one of the top stories is that Cory Booker is apparently not gay. I didn't know that. No, I didn't know like it's a story.

• 6:31Speaker 05

  Cory Booker? Wait, wait, wait, wait. He's not gay?

• 6:33Adam Sosnick?

  There's been rumors out there that he's been straight for a while.

• 6:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out. I'm telling you. The guy that was on the White House, the Congress floor.

• 6:38Speaker 05

  Yes, Cory Booker, no.

• 6:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not part of the community to know who hangs with who. No, guys, stop it. He's not in the community. There's rumors out there that he's straight. Stop it, guys. Don't play this game. Like, marrying gay? No, no, not gay, like, what? Oh. So, he is gay? No, he's straight, apparently, Adam, I'm saying. Guess what? Fake news. Guys. No, no, what are you doing right now? I'm saying that there's rumors out there that he's straight. Says who? So then that means it's not, is it a rumor? I don't know, but everyone's like, no, no, no, he's straight, he's straight, he's straight. I didn't know this guy got this passionate about it. I'm telling you. You got, listen. I'm very offended. Adam is from Miami. Half of the gay community, don't box it in. That's AI, that's AI, Pat. So, you're disappointed, you're upset. Allegedly, he's straight, stop it, don't do him like that. This is all I'm doing. He's a nice guy. All I'm saying to. Ah, so you have something in common? What is wrong with this guy? I'm recognizing. Allegedly.

• 7:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm recognizing to say congratulations, so all the rumors can stop, Adam. Correct, correct. So this man is straight, leave him alone, beautiful girl. Can we confirm that that's not AI? I'm pretty sure that's true. I don't know, maybe the YT could be AI. Allen Iverson's taller. Yeah, so anyways, all right, so, let's go to the next one. So by the way, congratulations to these guys. Yeah, of course. Two months after an honest engagement, they got married to this girl named Alexis Lewis. Mazel tov, guys. Fantastic. Five arrested for weapon, uh, gang charges in Stockton. Trump doubles down on offensive remarks against them for this award, the retarded thing that they keep dropping. Trump accuses Omar of brother marriage, says she could be thrown the hell out of our country. Kristi Noem claims suspect the National Guard shooting was radicalized in the US.

• 8:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Vinnie's good friend and Adam's best friend, Netanyahu, asks Israel's president to pardon him in corruption cases. Good man, good man. Uh, Tim Walz slams Trump's post, and we got a bunch of other things going on here. How fraud swamped the Minnesota social services system on Tim Walz's watch? We have to talk about that, and then maybe this other refugee shooting that's taking place. Guys, a lot of weird things are going on. Having said that, folks, you know what today's? Cyber Monday, okay? Today's Cyber Monday. If you remember, on Black Friday, we announced something. One of the goals we had when we announced this last year was we wanted a million people to wear the Future Looks Bright gear. We are close to 500,000 people. We're about to pass 500,000 people worldwide that have Future Looks Bright gear,

• 8:54Patrick Bet-David?

  which means we're another half a million away. I love it. If you believe the future looks bright, you want gear for yourself, for your coworkers, for your kids, for your spouse, for your relatives this Christmas, get them a... you know what I'd love to see happen? Get people Future Looks Bright hat and gear that don't even follow the merch, that don't even follow the podcast. Give them a Future Looks Bright hat during Christmas and see their reaction. So, this is the last day that you'll see 30 to upwards of 70% discount on 99% of the items on VTmerch.com. This is the last day. Nothing else will happen after this. Everything will go back to regular prices. If you're looking for a couple of unique things that people are asking us about, of course, the F L B shoes. By the way, just so you know, the last 60, 61 days,

• 9:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I've worn this except for one day. Every day. And today I'm wearing the brown and Vinnie's wearing it as well today. This is all I'm wearing right now. Yeah. So, if you want to get the shoes, the Black Friday offers to look out for is the Black Digital, Black Friday Digital Course Make-up Bundle, all the events, everything that we have. Public Speaking Course, PBD Sales System, SLS Sales Leadership Summit, Vault Recording, all bundle at $9.97. Great offer. The shirts, I'm wearing the item shirt right now. You can go a little bit lower up there. You can look at these items. We'll put the link below for you to go to. But if not for yourself, if you're planning on shopping for friends and family this Christmas, surprise them with a Future Looks Bright hat. Surprise them with a Future Looks Bright shirt.

• 10:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, in the meantime, go to VTmerch.com and place your order 30 to 70% off. And for the crazy ones, because all the mystery boxes are gone. Those are completely gone. We don't have a single one of those left. But if you're crazy enough to place an order over 2,000, we're going to get all the list tomorrow. We're going to draw one of them. And someone's going to be invited to come have dinner with us here in Florida. We'll go to Casa di Angelo. We'll have dinner, then you'll be sitting right here in between me and Vinnie, and we'll do podcasts together. So, go to VTmerch.com, place an order over 2,000, and then you'll get yourself possibly a seat when we do the drawing on PBD Podcast. Looking good, Vinnie. And by the way, for some of you guys, I want to tell Adam how you feel. He can finally say to his face during dinner.

• 11:02Adam Sosnick?

  And here.

• 11:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Over oysters and bison and gnocchi and all this other stuff.

• 11:07Adam Sosnick?

  And guys, good news. PBD is going to take care of the bill and I'm going to take care of your valet.

• 11:11Patrick Bet-David?

  He will for sure. Okay, he will.

• 11:13Adam Sosnick?

  Nice.

• 11:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's called genetics, but.

• 11:15Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, uh, all right.

• 11:21Adam Sosnick?

  Hell.

• 11:22Tom Ellsworth?

  That was funny. Come on, that was.

• 11:24Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, when's Hanukkah? Come on.

• 11:25Tom Ellsworth?

  He just, when's Hanukkah? Tom? Tom? Hanukkah this year.

• 11:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Three times.

• 11:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, Hanukkah. No, no, no. Hanukkah this year starts on the tw- uh, 14th.

• 11:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, our first story is going to be Hanukkah. We're going to go into a different story, guys, please.

• 11:37Tom Ellsworth?

  14th to 22nd.

• 11:39Patrick Bet-David?

  We're going to go into a different story. We're not doing no Hanukkah stuff.

• 11:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Happy Kwanzaa.

• 11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right, fantastic. By the way, Adam had a phenomenal weekend on X this weekend. On, uh, uh, but let's go into some of the stories. Let's go some, some of the story.

• 11:49Adam Sosnick?

  Candace and I are best friends.

• 11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  First story I want to get into, the first story I want to get into is the story of what's going on in Minnesota. By the way, imagine if you were to say, somebody, a reporter writes a negative hit piece on you. Your name is Tim Walz. All right, whatever. Imagine a podcaster does a full-on investigation on you. Boom. Here's what Tim Walz's background's all about. All right, whatever. Imagine if Fox News does something on you. Yeah, that's bad, right? But what's worse than Minnesota's Department of Human Services? This is a tweet that none of us saw that happened on September 11th of last year

• 12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  when Minnesota's Department of Human Services employees sent a message to Kamala Harris, okay? September 11th, Rob, can we show the date so they can see it on the bottom, please? Zoom in a little bit. There you go. September 11th, 2024. They sent it to her. It only gets 45,000 views. Let's read it together, Rob. Ms. Harris, please listen to Minnesota state employees who work every day.

• 12:59Patrick Bet-David?

  To deliver best services possible to our state and people who expect no less and pay our wages, Tim Walz has caused incredible harm to our state and agencies, retaliated against whistleblowers, against fraud. Zoom in a little bit. So what are all these things called? Feeding our future, 250 million dollars, okay? Childcare assistant, 100 million dollars. Frontline worker bonus pay, 45 million dollars. Evergreen Recovery, 28 million dollars. Medicaid 11, 10.4, 9.5, all Medicaid. Employee benefits, 8.6 million. Medicaid Medicaid, 7.7, 5.4 million. Unemployment benefits, 4.7 million. SNAP, 4.1. Medicaid Medicaid Medicaid Medicaid

• 13:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Medicaid, 4 million, 3 million, 2.6, 1.8, 1.6 million. Futuristic Management Group, 1 million. Medicaid Medicaid. And Medicaid Autism Clinics, 501 million dollars, give or take. Then, another tweet comes out, saying the fact that, why is it that in Minnesota, check this out, autism claims to Medicaid in Minnesota, after Somalians opened their own centers, 2018, 3 million. 2019, it's, I don't even know what you call that, 17,

• 14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  18X to be exact, 54 million. Next year, 77 million. 2021, 183 million. 2022, 278, 79 million. 2023, 399 million. And if you go a little bit lower, they asked Grok to verify it, and Grok even responds back, okay? Have any of these guys been held accountable in Minnesota? Look at Grok, go a little bit lower. Yes, the FBI and DOG are investigating Medicaid fraud in Minnesota autism centers, many serve in Somalia's communities. Asha Farhan Hassan was charged September 2025, which was two months ago, with wire fraud, 40 million dollar scheme-related housing fraud charges, include Muhter Hassan Adin,

• 15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Mustafa Daip Ali and others, obviously many traditional American names. Probes continue with searches and links to other scams, some funds reportedly sent abroad. And you're looking at this thing, right? And then Department of Human and Health, Rob, go back to their tweet of what they sent yesterday, that got some 25 million views, okay? This is the one, Rob, go a little bit lower. Is this the one that got 25 million views? Go a little bit lower. Yeah, this is the one. Thirty-three million views. The long one. So go all the way to the bottom first to show what they're responding to. So here's a Dustin George, the damning quote on Tim Walz's failure to stop fraud consuming Minnesota. No one was doing anything about the red flags. He said it was like someone was stealing money from the cookie jar

• 15:46Patrick Bet-David?

  and they kept refilling it. This is New York Times reporting on this. That's how bad it is. How fraud swamped Minnesota's social services system on Tim Walz's watch. Thirty-three million views. Let's read what this tweet is. Go to the top, Rob. So, Tim Walz is 100% responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota. We let him know early on, helping for partnership and stopping it, but no response. Walz systematically retaliated, betting against whistleblowers, using monetary threats, repression, and did his best to discredit further fraud reports. Instead of partnership, we got the full weight of retaliation by Tim Walz, certain DFL members, and indifferent mainstream media. You can go a little bit lower. In addition to retaliating against whistleblowers, he disempowered the Office of Legislative Auditor,

• 16:30Patrick Bet-David?

  allowing agencies to disregard their audit findings and guidance. Okay? This is a casket of systemic failures leading up to Tim Walz. Agency leaders, the point about Tim Walz, willfully disregarded rules and laws to keep fraud reports quiet, even to the extent of threatening families of whistleblowers. Go a little bit lower. That's pretty wild, by the way. Keep going a little bit lower, Rob. Next paragraph. As staff, we firsthand would stand and observe fraud happening, yet we were shut down, reassigned, and told to keep quiet. Sometimes more leadership did not want to appear to discriminate against certain communities and were unwilling to take actions such as stopping fraud that would have an adverse impact on their image. To this day, no single agency leader has been held accountable for their role in fraud,

• 17:11Patrick Bet-David?

  whether it's Shereen Gandhi, great last name, Jess Gale, Jody Harpstead, Natasha Mertz, Eric Groomdal, or others. It's a structure created and maintained by Tim Walz, who had created an environment of interrelated agencies, institutions, against the media. Go a little bit lower. In the media, Tim Walz is dishonest, lacks ethics and integrity, has poor leadership skills, and has never taken accountability for his role in the fraud. Instead, he deflects by blaming national politics for his own failings and distracts the public image. It's just terrible for the state to say this. As such, we can't find fraud in Minnesota alone, hence why we're pleading to the federal levels of the government. We're grateful to numerous solid politicians, especially the fraud committee and media outlets. Thank you.

• 17:56Patrick Bet-David?

  New York Times for bringing the plight of Minnesota to the national stage. Tom, how bad is this?

• 18:03Tom Ellsworth?

  This is terrible. What they've done, and let me paint the picture for you. This and the coverage by the New York Times, everything else, it comes down like this. The Somalis, there were, excuse me, a large number of Somalis, one of whom is in court on a $14 million dollar charge, so this is not a sweeping statement. But the New York Times said that it was a significant number of Somalis that were involved in the fraud. What they do is they create a fake agency, that's the allegation. Money comes in from the federal government and they use it for other things. And they send it back. You know what remittances are? Remittances are money that leaves the United States. California has a very large amount of remittances that leave the United States

• 18:46Tom Ellsworth?

  from Mexican families sending it to their parents and relatives in Mexico. There is absolute fact that a couple of the people that are prosecuted, the money was going back to Somali to basically bad people.

• 18:59Speaker 05

  Al-Shabaab, a freaking terror organization, to name one of them.

• 19:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Just one, that's exactly right. And so what happened here was Tim Walsh got pinched and went with it. How much power did the Somalis have? Daniel, I'll ask you, how much power did the Somalis have? If he said, "No, we're going to investigate this, we can't be doing this", what happens the next election?

• 19:19Speaker 05

  They don't, they don't, they don't elect him and they use the word racist. He's racist, you're racist.

• 19:24Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right, that's right. And by the way, and who is their queen?

• 19:28Speaker 05

  Ilhan "I Hate America" Omar.

• 19:29Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly right. Pat, that's what happened. The Somalis are using this as a welfare system and a scam system back to themselves and to send money to Al-Shabaab. So thanks to Tim Walsh, in my opinion, Tim Walsh has knowingly...

• 19:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Not Walsh, this is no relation to Bill Walsh.

• 19:48Speaker 05

  Not Bill Walsh.

• 19:49Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not a football guy.

• 19:50Speaker 05

  Like, "From the window, to the walls."

• 19:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Sorry for my Canadian accent.

• 19:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, Bill Walsh was a legend.

• 19:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Tim Walsh, in my opinion, is personally responsible for funding Al-Shabaab because he knew all of this was going on. And take a look at all that Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid. You know what that is? That's money coming from the federal government to cover the gap. It's in Minnesota. And you know what ARPA was? ARPA, remember they said that they wanted the money to come through on ARPA? That's the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021.

• 20:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Which was under Biden, which put money back to the states that needed it after COVID shortfalls. So Walls knew the money was coming in. He knew what they were doing and he was giving appointments to people and intimidating people to keep them quiet because if he went up against the Somalis, he was going up against Ilhan Omar and in his next election, he's dead.

• 20:45Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, not physically.

• 20:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Not physically, he's over. His political career would stop at that next election.

• 20:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is this where he's being questioned about it?

• 20:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, with Meet the Press.

• 20:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. Little knucklehead.

• 20:59Speaker 08

  African descent have been charged, convicted and sentenced for stealing more than a billion dollars in taxpayer money from government programs during COVID. As you know, Governor, that is more than Minnesota spends each year to run its Department of Corrections. So I want to give you a chance to respond to this. Do you take responsibility for failing to stop this fraud in your state?

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• 22:17Speaker 10

  Well, certainly, I take responsibility for putting people in jail. Governors don't get to just talk theoretically, we have to solve problems. And I will note, it's not just Somalis. Minnesota is a generous state, Minnesota's a prosperous state, a well-run state with AAA bond rated, but that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're doing everything we can to demonize the entire community on the actions of a few. It's lazy.

• 22:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so pause it right there. So let's role-play. You ready? Those people are going to jail. Do you think those people have dirt on him? Absolutely. Okay, so check this out. Buckets. Yeah, so check this out. What happens if those people... You claim, like, I've had a lot of mobs or someone, I would talk about who killed John F. Kennedy, and, you know, and what happened with them. And mob came out, you know, all these other stories you hear about with Bobby and all this other stuff, right? That happened. If those stories are true, who had stuff on Kennedy's? The mob did. Of course. And what did the mob say? "Wait a minute, now you're coming after us?" Because Bobby Kennedy, the moment he became AG, he went after the mob.

• 23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course. And prior to that, they said... Except his dad's guys. Except his dad's guys, but it was, at first, they're like, "No, there's no such thing as, you know, the mafia, there's no such thing as any of this stuff that's going on, right?" Okay, if he plays this card, and then he goes after them, the 86 who Batia was talking about earlier, that if they called them out, and those 86 Somalis in Minnesota came out and said, "We would tell the world that you're racist", if they know the truth and they have receipts, this is a bad situation.

• 24:01Speaker 05

  He's, like, no, and here's the thing. He has to say, "I'm gonna go after them", and in turn, he's screwed. And like his wife said during the campaign, you know what they're gonna do to him? Turn the page! That whole shit, he's finished, Pat. If this was a movie, if this was a movie, and we were sitting there watching this, you know right now what you would say? "Oh, the governor's in on it", and I just want to make it like, and by the way, do you know that during one of these cases? We're trying to bribe jurors, Tom, for like a couple hundred thousand dollars and they got caught. They got caught. A Somali was trying to do it. And just Pat, when he's trying to be like, Wow. This isn't just Somalis. Rob, can you put up the names? Just, I want the audience to just, I'm gonna, I'm gonna just- Well, you know, that's what happens when Somalis come over here, then they get Netflix and they watch Untouchables and they learn about Al Capone and then they start learning all these tricks.

• 24:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, start, just start scrolling down. Pat, what do you see here? Saleem Ahmed Sahid, keep going. Abdul Khadir Nur Sahla, Ahmed Sharif, oh no, by the way, they're not all- Your accent is amazing. Hey, Abdi Nur Sahla, yeah, I am your captain now. Keep going, keep going, keep going. So look at all these Mahmoud Bashir, give me a freaking break. What does that all mean, Vinnie? Adam, they're all, the majority of them are Somali and what pisses me off the most- But those names are what? They're, these are all the people that, that were in charge of the fraud. Muslim? Seventy-five charging connection to the billion dollar feeding of future- I didn't see that one coming. Abdii Muhammad, so, give me a break, give me a break. Are you sure those names are Islamic? I'm almost ninety-nine point nine percent. Say a couple more, just because I'm not clear. A couple more, hold on. Faroud Nur, Anab Arta Alwa, Sharkali Issa, Mel, okay, and a couple more Mohammeds.

• 25:30Speaker 05

  Well, it sure doesn't look like the Boy Scouts of Mobile, Alabama to me. So let me, let, my point-

• 25:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, wait, wait, Rob has one point.

• 25:35Speaker 05

  What, Rob?

• 25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  We have to give a shout out to Sharon Ross.

• 25:37Speaker 05

  Sharon Ross in the house! Sharon Ross. Sharon Ross. By the way, she converted to Islam in two thousand seventeen. Sharon Ross in the Casa, but Pat, you know, you know what? This is what pisses me off the most, the Ilhan Omar's, these disgusting human beings that come to our country, okay? Talk shit about the country, bash the president, complain all the time, and then your people are robbing us for a billion dollars, you disgusting human being.

• 26:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, let's be a little bit respectful because last night, the Celtics were playing the Timberwolves.

• 26:06Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 26:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And, do you not like good halftime shows? I like good halftime shows. Yesterday, at the Minnesota Timber, Rob, I sent it to you, Minnesota Timberwolves and the Celtics halftime show. There's nothing like a great, phenomenal halftime show.

• 26:22Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 26:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it makes the game more, it's like you want to see like backflips and, you know, like acrobatics and stuff like that. This is yesterday's halftime show. I think you're gonna love it. Zoom in a little bit, go ahead, Rob.

• 26:38Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a

• 26:39Speaker 05

  This is the halftime show, seriously?

• 26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yesterday Celtics, Timberwolves. What is this? Somaliyan halftime show. Oh no, I've seen these groups. They're great. They're great. Watch this. We're bringing them to Miami soon. This is at the Target Center yesterday. Rob, zoom out a little bit. Let's see what it says. Look at the crowd. Okay, Somalians dancing at The crowd's loving it. Pause. Somalians dancing at a half court for the Minnesota Timberwolves Celtics game. This is Derek Evans showing this. And it was verified, if you go to the bottom and check what Grok had to say, that it was verified it was them dancing last night at the game, which is great. Some people like that. Go ahead, Vinny.

• 27:18Speaker 05

  And so, and I know that you love when this type of stuff happens, but you're searching, you're digging, and then something hit me, and I was like, wait a minute. If Tim Walz, let's just say, he is involved in all this stuff is happening, Minnesota, Tommy, how much was it? Hundreds of millions of dollars in healthcare fraud. Okay, so meaning money, a lot of this money, Medicaid and all this stuff going to illegals. Do you remember this blast from the past? Do you guys remember back in June, guys, that there was a vote to end healthcare for illegals in Tim Walz's great state of Minnesota? Remember, there was one out of 67 Democrats that voted no, and she was crying. Do you remember who she was? Do you remember that girl? Melissa Hortman? And she was murdered alongside with her husband. They went, somebody went to her house,

• 28:02Speaker 05

  Vance Bolter, who by the way, was appointed on the Governor's Workforce Development Board by Tim Walz. This guy, this guy went and shot and killed her, and he said, this is Bolter saying this, he claimed Tim Walz also wanted him to kill Amy Klobuchar.

• 28:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it.

• 28:19Speaker 05

  I looked, Google that and say that if he said that. So think about this, Patrick. He knows what's happening. Tim Walz, like I said, if this was a movie, that's pretty interesting. The one Democrat, and Rob, once you, once you're done, find her. She's, Pat, she walks out of the hall after she, she casts her vote, and she's crying, she's crying because she's like, American, we can't, this is, we can't do this. We can't give it to illegals. Americans have to get it. She's bawling, she goes home and she gets shot with her husband. Weird. Weird.

• 28:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you serious about this story?

• 28:49Speaker 05

  I'm dead serious. This is 1,000%.

• 28:53Speaker 05

  I'll guarantee you, in a letter claimed, Tim Walz instructed him to kill Amy Klobuchar as well. And notice, it gets memory hold packed.

• 28:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Why the, why Amy?

• 29:01Speaker 05

  You tell me, you tell me. I don't know, but he's saying, and obviously they're gonna say he was rambling, he was incoherent, but why would you kill if you were appointed by-

• 29:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So, political senator wrote a letter on FBI which he claimed that Tim Walz wanted to kill Amy Klobuchar for about forty-seven, fifty-seven legend rambling, wrote a letter that former Democratic candidate was as part of a plot for Walz to take her from the senate, Minnesota Star Tribune, citing people familiar with the writing, the letter which is one page and a half is mostly incoherent and given insight into the muddled mind of Minnesota madman.

• 29:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's a madman.

• 29:32Patrick Bet-David?

  The source told the outlet.

• 29:33Speaker 05

  Just saying, it's kinda weird that the one person that voted-

• 29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  So, he killed the one lady?

• 29:37Speaker 05

  Killed her and her husband at her house, and then went and shot other people as well.

• 29:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Can I see the video of the lady that was crying?

• 29:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, Rob, show her.

• 29:43Patrick Bet-David?

  To remember this?

• 29:44Speaker 05

  This is, you're gonna, you're gonna remember. Melissa, she's, she comes out of the vote, and this is her, and then she was killed shortly after this. Look at her.

• 29:52Speaker 11

  We'll be hurt by that vote, and I'm, uh... We worked very hard to try to get a budget deal that wouldn't include that provision.

• 30:03Speaker 12

  What's her job? Speaker of America, Melissa-

• 30:05Speaker 05

  She was- She was, she was in congress. Unfortunately killed by that guy, right?

• 30:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Unbelievable.

• 30:10Speaker 05

  She's a representative for, representative for, but Patrick, mind you, Democrat crying because she feels bad that these illegals aren't gonna get their Medicaid, but it's, the Americans deserve it. So, you know what they said? You're going against the grain.

• 30:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So, she's a Democrat?

• 30:23Speaker 05

  She's a Democrat, that went, the only one that went against sixty-seven votes, that said, keep the money coming.

• 30:29Patrick Bet-David?

  How much after crime did she get killed?

• 30:31Speaker 05

  I think, how long, Rob? Was it a day, was it, it was, Rob, Pat, it had to be that week. It had to be that week where she was shot and killed, cuz the vote happened, and then they shot her.

• 30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go back on the link, on the, right there, on June fourteenth, where she finally fatally shot in her home in Brooklyn.

• 30:48Speaker 05

  What was the vote?

• 30:49Patrick Bet-David?

  To just think when the vote was, that's June fourteenth.

• 30:51Speaker 05

  June fourteenth, and then when was that vote? To stop illegal aid to illegals, aid to illegals? It had to be that same week or two.

• 31:08Speaker 05

  It just says June. June. Bill passed in June. Boom. So, around the same timeframe.

• 31:15Patrick Bet-David?

  It's unbelievable.

• 31:16Speaker 05

  How wild is that? And she's crying because she feels bad because she's like, to make it happen, we had to take that provision out of the bill. June 9th. June 9th. So, again, Patrick, if five days, if this was a movie, you know what I'd say at this point? Wait a minute, Tim, you're the governor. You, you have to know. You have to know. And then people are getting killed.

• 31:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Was she upset or was she scared?

• 31:35Speaker 05

  She, Tommy, she looked like she was, she was upset and scared in the same, in the same breath, bro. Five days later, you're shot and killed? Come on, bro.

• 31:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, Americans, if you're watching this, he almost became your vice president. Oh, my God! He almost became your vice president. He was...

• 31:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Such a knucklehead.

• 31:51Patrick Bet-David?

  One, you know, event away from becoming a president. Think about that, how close that was. A- Adam, your thoughts on this whole thing? You're from, your family's, I believe...

• 32:00Adam Sosnick?

  My mom is from Minnesota, so this is a story that I, I've been tracking for a while. So, look, Trump has come out and he's called, listen, if, if, Trump will say things that will offend you, so this might be offensive to some of you. Trump has called and labeled certain countries shithole countries. Well, if you want to find a shithole country, look no further than Somalia. And I'm not saying that in terms of opinion or emotion. Fact check me. If you want to talk about misery, corruption, low economy, militias, gangs, failed states, look no further than Somalia.

• 32:34Tom Ellsworth?

  No working government, according to the UN.

• 32:36Adam Sosnick?

  No working government. I mean, listen, on this list, you're going to find Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, North Korea, Venezuela. But at the top of the list, you're going to look for Somalia. Now, you might be saying, why the hell would Somalis in northern Africa, a 99% Muslim majority country, go to freezing ass Minnesota? Well, if you want to look into Minnesota a little bit, Minnesota's nickname is called Minnesota Nice. They're the nicest people. Oh, they're so nice. Oh, hello, Minnesota. Welcome here. Take my house. Take my family. Take my entire state. It's all yours now.

• 33:17Adam Sosnick?

  At some point, you're gonna find some not-so-nice people in Minnesota who go, "What the hell's going on here right now?" I was in the meeting that we met at Naalba, and I was seeing a lot of guys who work for Allianz. I don't want to name names, but a lot of them are based in Minnesota. And I go, "Guys, what the hell's going on with your state?" And keep in mind, in the insurance industry, they gotta kind of keep it buttoned up. And they didn't want to say anything. And I was like, "Guys, time to grow some frickin' balls here and say what you really think." There's no reason that you should have this many Somalians in Minnesota, the most freezing state in the country. It makes no sense.

• 33:56Adam Sosnick?

  So you inherit these war-torn, ravaged individuals who are funding terrorist groups like Al-Shabaab and bring them through your refugee program that you set up through your church? You know, what's the book that you always recommend for people who are too nice? "No More Mr. Nice Guy"? Everyone in Minnesota who cares about Minnesota, the Scandinavian bastion in North America, uh, needs to read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" and stop accepting this Somali BS. If they want to get on board and say, "Hey, we're proud to be an American, proud to be a Minnesotan," great. But I don't see any of that going on in Minnesota.

• 34:31Speaker 05

  And think about this. You import the Third World, you're gonna get the Third World. And here's the thing, your boy Nick Shirley, he went there, Patrick, he went to Minnesota, he was just interviewing people. The majority of them couldn't speak English, okay? Couldn't speak English. The women, the men refused the women to be on camera. It was as if you were in Somalia. And I'm sorry, guys, this whole suicidal empathy attitude of, "No, we love," and enough with that bullshit. Because I'm telling you guys, if you haven't seen Europe lately... Yeah, by the way, this is just him going through and asking people questions. Go ahead, Robbie.

• 35:04Speaker 13

  I'm here in the United States. I'm not speaking English, only one Somali language. What does it mean to you to be a part of Islam? I don't know, I'm not speaking English. How are you? Do any of you speak English?

• 35:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Where is this?

• 35:17Speaker 13

  English?

• 35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That's in Somalia.

• 35:18Speaker 05

  No, it's in Minneapolis.

• 35:19Speaker 13

  Can women speak to him on camera?

• 35:21Patrick Bet-David?

  They won't let them put him on camera.

• 35:22Speaker 13

  No.

• 35:25Speaker 13

  I kept going because I wanted to speak with some more of the elders here to see if they could share their story about coming here from Somalia and how they've seen the rise firsthand. However, none of them spoke English. How are you? Can I ask any of you guys some questions?

• 35:38Speaker 13

  No? Speak English?

• 35:42Speaker 13

  No?

• 35:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 35:43Speaker 13

  Do any of you speak English?

• 35:47Speaker 05

  After a few interviews, somebody came up. Yeah, just whatever. She's gonna eat it after, but here's the thing. You come to this country, you have to assimilate. You have to learn the language. You have to try to contribute. This is proof. This is proof. This isn't racist. This isn't uncaring. You come here, you suck from our system, you have all these freaking kids, you rob us for a billion dollars and then we say shit? You call us racist. And oh, and I'm sick and tired of people that aren't from this country. People from London, people from here. Look at what's happening overseas. You can't even... And Christopher Hitchens, Pat, he did a great... In 2009, he warned, especially with England, "You're not gonna be able to complain, number one, and if you even open your mouth, they're gonna label you Islamophobic."

• 36:31Speaker 05

  Okay? Enough of that nonsense.

• 36:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Hitchens or Murray?

• 36:34Speaker 05

  Christopher Hitchens had a great thing in 2009, warning you guys, warning them.

• 36:38Adam Sosnick?

  Here's the challenge I see in Minnesota. Where are the politicians that are speaking up against us? Where are the business leaders?

• 36:44Speaker 13

  Adam, none of them.

• 36:45Adam Sosnick?

  No, meaning you have Tampon Tim, you have Ilhan Omar, you have Amy Klobuchar, you have Jacob Frye, you have the other dude that Jacob Frye beat, the Somali pirate guy. Where are the conservative American voices in Minnesota being like, "Guys, what the hell are we doing here?"

• 37:00Speaker 13

  They have no chance.

• 37:00Adam Sosnick?

  This suicidal empathy, this tolerance, that we're just letting... Come on in, guys. The world's worst shithole country. Come on in, guys. Minnesota nice. Where are the voices speaking out against us?

• 37:11Speaker 13

  Absolutely. None of them? Adam, none of them, because they were all voted out.

• 37:14Adam Sosnick?

  What I said, what you said, they would be worried about getting canceled.

• 37:17Speaker 13

  Well, let me explain something to you.

• 37:19Adam Sosnick?

  Grow a pair of balls, guys.

• 37:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me show you what President said about Ilhan Omar. Rob, if you want to go to it. Oh, is that Chris Hitchens? Rob, you want to play that clip? So you found it?

• 37:26Speaker 13

  That's a great clip.

• 37:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 37:29Speaker 14

  Business phase and gentlemen, I beseech you. Resist it while you still can and before the right to complain is taken away from you, which will be the next thing. You will be told you can't complain because you're Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture as if it was an accusation of race hatred, for example, or bigotry, whereas it's only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion. Watch out for these symptoms. They are not just symptoms of surrender. Very often ecumenically offered to you by men of God in other robes, Christian and Jewish and Smarmy ecumenical. These are the ones who will hold open the gates for the barbarians. Barbarians never take a city till someone holds the gates open.

• 38:14Speaker 05

  And Keir Starmer is one of those guys. Keir Starmer's like, "Come on in."

• 38:17Patrick Bet-David?

  The impossible right there. By the way, here's what the president had to say about Ilhan Omar again, again, and then that led to a decision he made this past weekend that I think is very important for the people to know about. Go for it, Rob.

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• 39:26Speaker 16

  need their people coming into our country telling us what to do. When you're talking about de-naturalization. Talking about like Somalia where you have a congressman goes around telling everybody about our concentration. And yet she supposedly came into our country by marrying her brother. Well, if that's true, she shouldn't be a congressman and we should throw the hell out of our country.

• 39:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, now, he's saying that. And then he turns around and Trump vows to permanently pause migration from third world countries. Okay, permanently pause, okay, migration from third world countries. Uh, Rob, is this the, uh, the tweet and he puts this for Thanksgiving, everything he's going through and then on the bottom. I will permanently pause migration from all third world countries to allow US systems to recover. Terminate all of our millions of Biden illegal admissions, including those signed by sleepy Joe Biden's auto pen and remove anyone who is not a net asset to the United States or is incapable of loving our country. And all federal benefits and subsidies to non-citizens of our country.

• 40:32Patrick Bet-David?

  De-naturalize migrants who undermine domestic tranquility and deport any foreign national who is a public charge, security risk and non-compatible with Western civilization. These goals will be pursued with the aim of achieving a major reduction in illegal and disruptive populations, including those admitted through an unauthorized and illegal auto pen approval process. So these two kind of have to go together. So let me read the auto pen to you as well.

• 40:59Speaker 05

  And Pat, can I say one thing really fast? The Immigration and Nationality Act, Section 212F, Robbie. Whenever the president finds that an entry of an aliens or any class of aliens in the United States would be detrimental to the interest of the United States, he may by proclamation and for such period, he shall deem necessary suspend all entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants or impose on the entry of aliens, any restrictions he may deem to be inappropriate. He has the power to say enough detrimental. They're taking money, they're giving it to terrorists. Go to hell. Like, what are, what are we talking about? I've had, shouldn't that, shouldn't that, not to call you up, shouldn't that have been the number one thing? You married your brother to get him citizenship.

• 41:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Allegedly.

• 41:43Speaker 05

  Allegedly, but still, if that's a fact.

• 41:45Adam Sosnick?

  That's actually common in that side of the world.

• 41:47Speaker 05

  Well, not common for, for us.

• 41:49Adam Sosnick?

  Cousins, they're into the first cousin thing.

• 41:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, but to get him papers to come here. Yeah, of course.

• 41:53Adam Sosnick?

  But she did some fake paperwork allegedly, but I'm talking in reality. Oh. Cousins be banging. Yeah. In that side of the world.

• 42:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go back, Rob, go back to the story here I want to wrap up with is the Autopen. So we can get into, you just had the tweet up a minute ago. Yeah, right there. Any document signed by Sleepy Joe Biden with the Autopen, which was approximately 92% of them, is hereby terminated and of no further force or effect. The Autopen is not allowed to be used if approval is not specifically given by the President of the United States. The radical left lunatics circling Biden around the beautiful, uh, uh, uh, Rosalind's desk, uh, in, uh, Resolute Desk and the Oval Office took the presidency away from him. And I'm hereby canceling all executive orders and anything else that was not directly signed by Joe Biden, because the people who operated the Autopen did so illegally. Joe Biden was not involved in the Autopen process.

• 42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And if he says he was, he will be brought up on charges of perjury. Thank you for your attention to matter. So he's going to step ahead to even not put it on Biden. Not allow Biden to come and change it. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 42:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's very, very interesting. Uh, I have thoughts on this. Uh, I think there was a shadow government that was working around Biden, uh, that at times he was nearly incapacitated, unfortunately, sadly. Um, and I say that legitimately. Um, you know, people make jokes about, we didn't have a president, we had elder abuse. Uh, I understand the comedic angle of that. However, it's sad when you're talking about the leadership of our country. However, James Comer, you know, the US House Representative from Kentucky, they did hearings and they talked to people, Pat. Now, if you've had great assistants over the year, right, Pat?

• 43:40Tom Ellsworth?

  And what if HR asked your assistant some questions and then they say, I take the fifth? Like, wait a minute, you're Pat's assistant. I'm just asking you, did you schedule lunch on this day? I take the fifth. And you keep taking the fifth. What do you think that means? You don't want to be in trouble. Comer.

• 43:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You talking about somebody that we had? Because that sounds like somebody, or you just like?

• 43:57Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, they.

• 44:00Adam Sosnick?

  I think Mateo's doing a great job just.

• 44:01Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, no. Don't drop names. I'm just saying like, what are you saying?

• 44:04Tom Ellsworth?

  James Comer brought in White House staff, including some assistants and coordinators. And several of them just sat and took the fifth when James Comer was asking about the Autopen. And then James Comer said, you know, it was really interesting. He says this, "There were several people who committed violent crimes, murders, and in fact were actually released or had death sentences diminished. That was stunning to us because we never found any evidence that Joe Biden had ever said anything about that. He actually had spoken openly about some people that had committed nonviolent crimes, some white collar crime, and that he was giving some of them pardons. And then all of a sudden, we saw some people come across that it were violent crimes and were like,

• 44:46Tom Ellsworth?

  you know what? That doesn't sound like Joe Biden." And no one could say to us, quote, James Comer talking about his hearing, "No one would say, quote, 'Yes, Joe Biden told me to sign this document. Yes, I participated in a meeting with Biden where we discussed the executive order, and yes, I was asked to go down the hall and place it on the machine and get it signed.'" No one could tell us that. And so James Comer, you know, opened it up and it's like, hey-

• 45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But you need Supreme Court still, Tom. The Supreme Court's still gotta be able to do it. So when he's saying-

• 45:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm saying it's not just Trump-

• 45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I get that. I get that. But to me, you know, what the last, you know, eight, 2016, what the last nine years have taught me, if there's anything, there is nobody that has more power than the Supreme Court. Nobody. I put the Supreme Court ahead of the President.

• 45:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, that's it because there is a thing above the Supreme Court, an etching that says there is no appeal except to God beyond this court.

• 45:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And you hope, by the way, you're lucky that it's 6-3 today on the conservative side.

• 45:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, man.

• 45:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine if it's the other side. America is sold if it's on the other side. If one of those guys did the Colorado thing. But by the way, here's what Comer had to say about the auto pen. Go for it, Rob.

• 46:01Speaker 17

  ... any evidence other than the very last person we brought in, Jeff Zients, who I'm sure he communicated with everyone else that we brought in. He knew the questions we were asking. No one could say, yes, Joe Biden told me to sign this document with my name. Yes, I participated in a meeting with Joe Biden where we discussed this executive order, or we discussed this person's pardon. No one, his inner circle, we brought in all of his inner circle, some of whom pled the fifth- Amendment wouldn't even answer the questions, but those who did, other than Jeff Zients, the very last person, no one could say it. Now, we didn't bring Jill Biden in. Many believed she was the one that was making a lot of decisions. It doesn't matter. What matters,

• 46:42Speaker 17

  Jason, is that Joe Biden wasn't a part of the process. And the Constitution is clear, no one has the authority to issue a pardon, other than the President of the United States. The Vice President doesn't have that authority. The Chief of Staff does not have the authority. And the First Lady does not have the authority. So I applaud what President Trump did today. I think this will end up in court. And I think our investigative work, the report that the House Oversight Committee published, will serve as the basis of evidence.

• 47:10Speaker 05

  Well, we will see. We will see.

• 47:12Adam Sosnick?

  And I hope, like, by the way, speaking of Biden, you know, he made an appearance this weekend.

• 47:17Speaker 05

  He was a walking potato in Nantucket, like, just...

• 47:19Adam Sosnick?

  Rob, I sent you that video. Can we see Joe Biden looking...

• 47:22Speaker 05

  Rob, wait, wait, wait. Don't throw it off. Yeah, while you're doing this, I want to... What is that, Rob? What is this? This is what I want to show you. Oh, go ahead. So, this, by the way, the Oversight Committee watch, which, by the way, Comer was a part of it, a bunch of these depositions, which I've watched, a lot of them extensively, Pat, it's showing and admitting how they all propped up his decline. They put on makeup, they put on teleprompters, and he wasn't... Pat, for all the speeches and everything like that, you're not going to believe this, they went to Hollywood to help him with speeches with the State of the Union, and to help him with vocabulary. Guess who they basically put on board to help Joe Biden? You're never going to believe it.

• 48:00Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead.

• 48:01Speaker 05

  Jeffrey Katzenberg and Steven Spielberg were brought on to teach him how to speak, and they were like, "You're not using the right words."

• 48:07Adam Sosnick?

  Stop it. Is there video of that?

• 48:08Speaker 05

  This is Jeffrey Zients, yeah, former White House Chief of Staff. This is when I'm a loser, and I'm sitting home watching this stuff at night. Listen to what he says.

• 48:14Adam Sosnick?

  And this is the only guy that answered questions for James Comer?

• 48:16Speaker 05

  Only guy.

• 48:21Speaker 05

  It's all good. It's gonna come. He's but literally Pat, the only one that was actually answering questions truthful about what was happening.

• 48:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Deeper questions.

• 48:32Speaker 05

  250. No, it's all good. Right there.

• 48:38Speaker 18

  We had Steven Spielberg joins, I think for that for some sessions, I think around the state of the Union.

• 48:44Speaker 05

  State of the Union.

• 48:46Speaker 18

  And Jeffrey Katzenberg was also involved in some of those sessions.

• 48:55Speaker 18

  It was typically around, you know, boy, the language doesn't pop there. Those are different vocabulary. Or this is an opportunity to really slow down and deliver. It was around delivering in language, not around policy in any way.

• 49:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He was the chief of staff.

• 49:13Speaker 05

  He was the chief of staff, former. Pat, he goes, they didn't help with policy. He so he.

• 49:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, you gotta give this guy props on one thing. He was the only guy that went to that depth and was cooperating with the committee and answering questions.

• 49:26Speaker 05

  Didn't plead the fifth.

• 49:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Other people would just stop and plead the fifth.

• 49:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, wait a minute, though. Wait a minute, though. That shows unalignment to Biden to do that. So that means he's not aligned.

• 49:35Tom Ellsworth?

  He's not aligned. Or or he's just concerned about answering the question straight because he's concerned about what happens to his career next. Or maybe he just got, as they say, you know, he got religion.

• 49:45Patrick Bet-David?

  What career? What career? You think after this Democrats are gonna trust him?

• 49:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, no, he's.

• 49:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, to to to not follow the orders. You think this guy's gonna get hired again by anybody? For him to not plead the fifth? Let me ask this question. Chief of staff, how important of a position is that?

• 50:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Huge.

• 50:05Patrick Bet-David?

  It's massive.

• 50:06Speaker 05

  Susie Wallace.

• 50:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. Okay, so.

• 50:10Patrick Bet-David?

  When you're, what's one of the jobs of being a chief of staff? It's, it's, it's multiple levels about being a secretary.

• 50:17Speaker 05

  Huge.

• 50:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Why did they call secretary secretaries? To keep what? Secrets. So you mean to tell me? You want to say this? Do you think anybody from the administration like a Jill? Or somebody told him, hey, you better not say anything, we're all pleading the fifth.

• 50:34Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 50:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he was received that, do you think he received that message?

• 50:37Speaker 05

  Yes. Absolutely.

• 50:38Patrick Bet-David?

  If he received that message? To plead the fifth? And he just said that? He will never have a job on the democratic side ever again, unless if it's somebody else hired him. It's an outsider winning on the democratic side to hire somebody like this. He'll never have that high, higher up of a job again. What does he currently do right now, Rob? Can you look him up to see what he does right now?

• 50:57Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 50:58Patrick Bet-David?

  How dare you go against? Wow. What does do today? Yeah. For a job, yeah, let's see what he does today.

• 51:07Speaker 05

  He came out of private sector, by the way. He's not, he worked under Obama.

• 51:11Patrick Bet-David?

  He came out of private sector?

• 51:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's not a career.

• 51:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I just want to know what he does today.

• 51:17Patrick Bet-David?

  As I know, he's official former. There's no longer White House senator, but what does he do today? Zionist background. Zion's background is a fix it. I just want to get your reaction. Zion's background is a fix it executive.

• 51:38Patrick Bet-David?

  As of now, Jeff's not holding act of his major role, okay.

• 51:41Speaker 05

  So he's chilling, he has money, he's a freaking investor. Supposedly he was an executive investor.

• 51:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What his net worth is?

• 51:47Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 51:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What's his net worth? Does he have a few money? Let's see what kind of money this guy's got. I think he's doing okay.

• 51:53Speaker 05

  Oh, okay. He's good. Somewhere between eighty nine, forty million.

• 52:00Speaker 05

  He's the loser. What a jump, sixty eight million to three hundred and thirty eight million.

• 52:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He's doing okay financially.

• 52:07Speaker 05

  You know what this shows?

• 52:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Thanks, Joe.

• 52:08Speaker 05

  That they controlled everything. It wasn't a presidency, it was like Hollywood production and even the aides didn't know who was signing it. And what should scare everybody for four years? You don't. Know who was definitively running the country. Who was running the United States of America? And it's the same people that are going after Trump to try to destroy him with Tom's color revolution, which is working to a T, but thank God the people were fighting for it. But this is, this is a scary, scary thing. Who are those? Who are the people in the ear? Was it the Hillarys? Was it the Obamas saying, hey, make sure he does this?

• 52:41Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way.

• 52:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it possible that this guy just said, all right, I'm not doing this. I'm just going to cooperate. I'm not going to out everybody name by name, but I'm going to answer it. So I'm not prosecuted later and I'm out of here.

• 52:51Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 52:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it possible?

• 52:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What I'm saying to you is, this is a form of being like a lowest level of whistleblower.

• 52:58Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 52:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, just so you know.

• 52:59Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 52:59Patrick Bet-David?

  But when he did that, is he married? Can we see his wife and kids if he's married? Does he have a family? Not trying to do, okay, he is. So he's a Duke University guy. Uh, uh, uh, he's probably got kids. Yeah, he's probably like, listen, this political stuff, I am out.

• 53:17Speaker 05

  I'm done.

• 53:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to have nothing to do with it. I want to go back to my personal life. Now, watch him show back up. But to me, yeah, good for them. They got a family. They're doing their thing. Uh, Rob, I didn't mean to put her on blast. I'm just trying to check to see if the guy's married or not. I was just going to say like, you know, she went to Berkeley stuff. We're not trying to do that, but, but good for him for doing that. However, he will never have a job at that level ever again. He will never be a chief of White House ever again. If he does,

• 53:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think it's going to be an establishment left that hires him.

• 53:48Speaker 05

  Oh, of course.

• 53:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 53:50Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the whole conversation around Biden using the auto pen is they were like, who's in charge? Well, pick your poison. Do you want the incapacitated vegetable allegedly in charge? No. Or do you want his handlers in charge? You're not even sure who these people are. Also, no. This is the danger of electing a guy that you're not really sure his mental stamina. Now, a lot of people made the mistake, but the question is, did you double down on it? And try to defend Biden when he was clearly inept? Or did you make the savage mistake of trying to prop up Kamala Harris as if she would be any better? So what role did Kamala have here? What role did the chief of staff here?

• 54:33Adam Sosnick?

  Ron Klain, this guy Jeff Zients, whatever it is, who are the people really running the administration? Because you know how like, uh, Rob, you drive a Tesla, right?

• 54:42Speaker 05

  I do.

• 54:42Adam Sosnick?

  You're like, sometimes I'll just put it on. Autopilot and it'll drive for me. Yeah, you do that when everything's clear and everything's going great. The country was falling apart under Biden. He's still like autopiling it up. That's the biggest problem I have.

• 54:56Speaker 05

  But no, but the biggest problem is what Tom talked about, and I'll say very, very briefly. The color revolution, which is a globalist communist playbook where this is how easy. They turn the public against the leader that the people actually voted for. We, we voted for Trump. Okay. Then they unleash disorder, BLM, Antifa, cities burning while they call it peaceful.

• 55:14Adam Sosnick?

  Check.

• 55:14Speaker 05

  They weaponize the courts, the media, big tech, Zucker bucks, 400 million to count votes.

• 55:19Adam Sosnick?

  Soros and the DAs.

• 55:20Speaker 05

  And then they install a puppet who answers to outside forces like China and Blinken and all these guys.

• 55:25Adam Sosnick?

  An older Biden. Check.

• 55:27Speaker 05

  And that's it. So Adam, it's not like what they voted for. They were installed. They cheated in 2020 with the Hunter Biden laptop and covering up voting centers. So we couldn't see the votes. Like the jig is up. We know what the hell they did. And that's who they wanted. They wanted this guy in to puppet his ass to wherever he wanted to go.

• 55:43Adam Sosnick?

  81 million votes, nothing to see here.

• 55:46Speaker 05

  And you, and the people that voted for him. Unbelievable.

• 55:48Adam Sosnick?

  Can I give you a little maybe devil's advocate for a second?

• 55:51Speaker 05

  Get devil.

• 55:51Adam Sosnick?

  So this weekend I'm in Miami and I'm having a conversation with a very, very good friend of mine.

• 55:56Speaker 05

  Great movie.

• 55:56Adam Sosnick?

  And he looks at me and he goes, what the hell happened to you, bro? I go, what do you mean? He goes, I see what you're doing with your Trump thing. Who paid you? I go, what? He goes, this is so unlike, I haven't seen him in a while. He goes, this is so unlike you. I go, what do you, what do you mean? He goes, Trump? Really, bro? Really?

• 56:15Speaker 05

  I would have done this about you.

• 56:16Adam Sosnick?

  I'm like, I'm like Trump's killing it right now. He's doing awesome. He's like, you disgust me. I go, really? Who do you like? He goes, I like Obama. I go, yeah, that's cool. Great. But he hasn't been president in, I don't know, 10 years. Who do you like now? He's like, I like Obama. I go, no, I get that. Who do you like now? He's like, well, not Trump. I go, that's not the, I go, who do you like? He keeps saying Obama.

• 56:40Speaker 05

  He doesn't have the name.

• 56:41Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no. His candidate is not Trump. I know. I go, I go, I get it. You don't like Trump. You like Obama. But current politicians, who would you vote for now? And he goes, I guess just give me the California guy. That's what he says. I go, Gavin Newsom?

• 56:55Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 56:56Adam Sosnick?

  That's your answer? I go, give me one thing Gavin Newsom has done. He goes, well, at least he's decent. And this is the point of my thing. People are so TDS, broken by Trump, that they can't get past the fact that he's not decent. He's not the typical president, where he goes, "You're stupid, you're gay, you're fat." When you are stupid, gay, and fat, whatever it is. They can't get past that, so no matter how many wins Trump gets, they don't care because he doesn't quote-unquote, "live up to the stereotypical decent president." I go, "So you'd rather have a corrupt reptile person like Gavin Newsom, or a walking vegetable like Joe Biden, or bring back the Obama years because you hate Trump this much? I'm not buying it."

• 57:40Adam Sosnick?

  Is this the video of Biden?

• 57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, and I'm assuming he's no longer a friend?

• 57:44Adam Sosnick?

  No, I love the guy, and I told him, I go, "We're always gonna be friends." But you've, like, you have TDS, and we're not gonna find common ground in this, but here, let me buy you a beer, and I bought him a beer. I love the guy, he just, he has TDS, it is what it is.

• 57:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you buy him a Bud Light?

• 58:02Adam Sosnick?

  You know what?

• 58:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Kind of a beer that you buy?

• 58:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but do you wanna know?

• 58:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you intentionally say?

• 58:05Adam Sosnick?

  Can I tell you what offended him? Because you can say this to a buddy? He goes, I go, "Do you wanna know the reason I'm not a Democrat anymore? Honestly, dude? Honestly? Because I'm not gay." He's like, "How could you say that?" I'm like, "Yeah, dude, like, honestly." As a dude, as a dude, being like, "Tim Walz for president." Tim Kamala?

• 58:27Speaker 05

  Wait, you don't think Pete Buttigieg, like, exudes alpha male energy?

• 58:30Adam Sosnick?

  The point is, I'm joking with him, like a buddy would. And he got so offended, but the reality is, a lot of what I'm saying is true, as a straight white male. It's a straight dude, in general. It's very hard to find common ground with the Democratic Party at this point. Sorry.

• 58:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You okay?

• 58:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'm gonna be okay.

• 58:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I start off with Cory Booker, you lost it, now you're going back to saying what you're saying.

• 58:53Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, I don't know, I'm flip-flopping over here, but...

• 58:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we'll...

• 58:56Adam Sosnick?

  I'm with the chicks department these days.

• 58:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, we're gonna move to the next story, we're gonna move to the next story here. Okay, so Wasserman Schultz comes out...

• 59:03Adam Sosnick?

  Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

• 59:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 59:05Adam Sosnick?

  She's still alive?

• 59:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Says Trump deployed military in cities led to DC shooting. She is blaming the president on this, go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:00:15Speaker 02

  Has flown across the country to target law enforcement officers in Washington DC. And, I mean, the answer is likely no. So why wasn't the president's first thought, wow, you know, maybe I should reconsider deploying military troops in the nation's capital or in any city, particularly not when they haven't coordinated closely with the leadership of these cities?

• 1:00:46Speaker 05

  Why do all Democrats... Her hair looks like wet ramen noodle. Like, I don't get it. They're just angry and wet. But let's dissect her message. No, it's a horrible message.

• 1:00:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's play Find the Facts. So, she said, "When we have law enforcement..." This is from the statement by Wasserman Schultz, and I'm not sitting here doing this for comedic relief here. It's, "When we have law enforcement that are quite capable of handling criminal justice issues..." No, you don't. You look at Chicago. The police were being... Had huge issues there, and there were people in Chicago, citizens, asking for more coverage. That is not a fact. Washington DC, as soon as the National Guard was there, it actually, the crime statistics and everything went down, and even the local city councilman and the police chief and the mayor admitted it, and one of them resigned.

• 1:01:37Tom Ellsworth?

  So fact there that we we don't need law enforcement to focus on not our military. Okay, don't know what that means. And this is when when they have not coordinated closely with the leadership of these cities. Wait a minute. The National Guard were paired up in pairs with DC police. They were coordinated. They got together with people like Eric Adams and they said, hey, if we ever were going to do this in New York, what will we do here? And they got together with the leadership. The leadership didn't want it, but they were getting together with police and police unions. So Debbie Wasserman here is sticking to a simple, simple playbook. Trump is wrong. It's Trump's fault.

• 1:02:18Tom Ellsworth?

  And then is saying things which are factually incorrect when we look at what was really happening. This is all part of the wind up toys that they have become. You know, those like wind up toy soldiers, wind them up and they march along. And that is what you're seeing here. She is sticking to party lines. She is sticking to the playbook and she is all part of this color revolution. It's it's unfathomable to me that the the media gives her a pass on that and a reporter won't say, no, no, hang on a second, Debbie. Maybe there were mayors that speak up and then that said, we don't need Trump's help. Maybe that happened in Portland. Maybe that happened in San Francisco. Maybe that happened in California. But it certainly you saw citizens and the police union and other people that welcomed it in Chicago and other places.

• 1:03:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Did we not?

• 1:03:04Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:03:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Why can't the media say that? Because I'll tell you, when the president is going to go to war internationally, he's got four branches of government and then the fifth, the US Coast Guard protecting our shores. When the Democrats go to war, they have, number one, they have the media. Number two, they have things like the UN. And then number three, they have the coordinated disinformation that they're doing. Those are their weapons of war and you're seeing Wasserman Schultz being part of that.

• 1:03:30Speaker 05

  And guess what, Tom? The FBI came out and said that the national murder rate is the lowest in modern history. Cash Patel said that this week they're going to bring out the numbers. 25,000 violent crime arrests. That's double than the previous year, double digit. And homicide rate and the track for the record low year almost 500% increase in nihilistic violent extremist arrests including um the violent 764 network 23% increase in child victims identified or located that like it's unbelievable to blame Trump for putting the National Guard meaning that girl that was shot was her name Beckstrom uh Sarah Beckstrom.

• 1:04:09Speaker 05

  Sarah Beckstrom she got shot by an Afghani freaking terrorist that brought his ass here under the Biden Mayorkas administration so for her to say like what people are mad about it ask the parents of the of the children that live in these major cities and in DC that are coming home safe and don't have to worry about getting shot or drive by or anything because crime is down I'm sorry to say it this was a democratic cause problem that the president's fixed it's I'm just like with the border why why is everybody always complaining about Trump who's trying to fix the problem but they don't say shit about uh Biden who created it you created it you let in 20 million people you let in 80,000 unvetted Afghanis that we were bombing for 20 years we have no idea where they are and Pat Thomas Homan did a interview and he goes they didn't even check them for anything no paperwork no nothing just come in and go and go

• 1:05:01Tom Ellsworth?

  You speak the truth man words talk numbers scream and you're bringing the numbers and the statistics I'll take you back it's been several years since I've looked over the statistic but I know this this goes back like four or five years ago the state of Idaho I think had one of the highest concealed carry permit rates in

• 1:05:17Speaker 05

  They did.

• 1:05:18Tom Ellsworth?

  In the United States and walk up robberies and ATM robberies were lowest in Idaho you want to know why?

• 1:05:25Speaker 05

  Why?

• 1:05:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Because I think it was like 27% of men over 21 were carrying.

• 1:05:29Speaker 05

  Good.

• 1:05:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And so it really takes the fun out of a a mugging an ATM remember it was they were called walk up robberies where they would walk up while you're getting gas or at an ATM or something you know what I'm saying quick you know give me your wallet give me your watch all this stuff walk up give me your cellphone so It really takes the fun out of it when there is a 27% chance you're gonna get a 9mm lobotomy.

• 1:05:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:52Tom Ellsworth?

  It takes the fun out of it. So this shows you that an educated, properly, and by the way, that's gun control. Permits, that's a form of gun control. Who had the guns? People who got background checks, people with permits. So Wasserman is wrong. When law enforcement is present in a controlled way, crime goes down in America. But you know what happens? It stops their ability to create the second article of their color revolution, which is chaos. An educated armed public tends to turn down the chaos, not raise it up, but they're still gonna find any way to put the spin on Trump.

• 1:06:29Adam Sosnick?

  So Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who's basically the congresswoman here in Broward County, by the way, if you don't know that, is the definition of a swamp creature. She's been a representative here in Florida for 20 years, and her hair has not changed, and that's the last thing that I'll comment about her hair. She's a DNC establishment fixture. She was the chairwoman of the DNC, I want to say, for five years, 2010 to 2016. Yeah, when Hillary won the nomination. I think she had to resign shortly afterwards after the email scandal. So when she says something about Trump, it's not unbiased commentary,

• 1:07:10Adam Sosnick?

  it's not neutral. It's, the headline should say, "Trump-hating congressperson said something again." Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. And of course, it's gonna be, "It's Trump's fault, we hate Trump, Trump's the worst person ever, he's basically Hitler." It's the same song and dance. Like, if you want to have a little bit of respect, give a little bit of like, unbiased truth, truthiness to what you have to say. Give some sort of unbiased commentary. Of course, it's all Trump's fault. We get it. The playbook is so annoying, and it's just so repetitive.

• 1:07:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Kristi Noem came out.

• 1:07:45Adam Sosnick?

  Do better.

• 1:07:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Kristi Noem came out, and then, Noem, came out and said that the suspect in the National Guard shooting was radicalized in the US. Here's Kristi Noem.

• 1:07:54Speaker 19

  We believe he was radicalized since he's been here in this country. We do believe it was through connections in his home community and state. And we're going to continue to talk to those who interacted with him, who were his family members, talk to them. So far, we've had some participation. But anyone who has information on this needs to know that we will be coming after you and we will bring you to justice. We absolutely will persecute you because we do know that we will never allow this to continue to happen in our country. Allow individuals who came to our country that were unvetted by Joe Biden, allowed to run free and loose. We are going to bring them to justice and make sure that they're returned out of this country if they aren't here for the purposes of being an American.

• 1:08:37Speaker 05

  Benny, if you think about it, okay, so the problem, I think the major issue that we're dealing with right now, all the protests, all the angry, all the people that are jumping in front of ICE vehicles and harassing ICE and Newsom saying, "Take off your mask." It's what do we do? Because, mind you, when you let in 20 million people and 80,000 from there, then you have these Somalians and all the bad stuff that's happening. It's almost like you have to do, okay, since, you know what they're saying, a few apples rule the whole bunch? You got to get rid of as many as you can because you don't know where the actual bad players are. And that's not Trump's fault. And guess what? This has been a bad, the border immigration for how many years? But it hasn't never been as bad as it was for this past four years. So I think there has to be a solution for the people that have been here. Let's say, and you brought this up a while ago,

• 1:09:22Speaker 05

  five years, 10 years, whatever, and you haven't done anything. I think those people, Tom, should turn themselves in, meaning show paperwork. I've been here for five to 10 years, okay? Do a background check on me. I've paid, yes, I'm illegal, okay? But I haven't done nothing. My track record should prove that for five to 10 years, I haven't done anything. I've been, yes, I came illegally. Pay a fine, do something, and you get to stay. That, something needs to be, like, they need to shift, Pat. And I think, figure out a way for those people because that's what these people are losing their minds about. But I'm sorry, when you let in 20 million, 80,000 from over there, unvetted? I'm sorry. You got to grab everybody and leave and then start bringing people back in. There's no other way.

• 1:10:03Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, there's a precedent for it, you know, the IRS. You know, you can call the IRS and say, "Hey..." I've been operating this business and things were really tough during COVID. There are some unclaimed amounts in taxes. I'd like to have an interview with the IRS locally. And I'd like to get myself clean before you send me the letter.

• 1:10:22Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:10:23Tom Ellsworth?

  When you do that with the IRS, you know what they do? They do a very comprehensive audit, very comprehensive. And then you will come to a fine, there will be a fine. They may not have the interest on it, but there's going to be a fine. And you can get yourself out of a hole. That's where it goes. Also, if you run afoul of the EPA regulation, you can call them and saying, hey, my company was doing this. I didn't know some of my employees were dumping these paint products here out behind there into the soil. This has to be dug up, has to be cleaned, but I want to come to you before you come to me. There are precedents with the US government. And when you do that, you're, you still get a fine, you still may find, now, sometimes they catch bad people trying to convince, confess, but they're really bad and they will, they will say, okay, you're getting the full.

• 1:11:08Tom Ellsworth?

  So, thank you for speaking up, but we're going to give you the full weight. We don't think you're being honest about your confession. But you can bring things to US government. So why can't you create something in the same way that somebody says, hey, look, I came here as 18. My mom brought me here. I was 18 at the time. You know, I just want to get clean and I don't want to go sent to a prison in El Salvador. I haven't done anything. Why can't the government just put in a simple process that says, okay, well, as of this moment, you can't be here. And right now, they've got like a two-year go back.

• 1:11:40Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:11:40Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's two or three-year go back rule. Why can't we put something in place that allows honest people to get, to honest people who are in the middle of an illegal situation to get clean?

• 1:11:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yep. So they're trying to blame it on Trump and the Trump administration because apparently he received asylum under the Trump administration. What happened exactly recently?

• 1:12:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but it's important you were saying that, that he seeked asylum or Trump responded to the dissent. It's mathematically impossible. And I want you to see this, what Holman said here. Play that clip, Rob.

• 1:12:13Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead.

• 1:12:14Patrick Bet-David?

  It's interesting you brought that up because, go for it.

• 1:12:18Speaker 20

  They don't have systems like we do.

• 1:12:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:12:20Speaker 20

  So a lot of these Afghans, when they did get here and get better, they had no identification at all. Not a single travel document, not one piece of identification. And we're going to count on the people that run Afghanistan, the Taliban, to provide us any information who the bad guys were? Or who the good guys are? Certainly not. And many people need to understand that most terrorists in this world, most of them, aren't in any database. Because unless they were found on a battlefield by DOD in the retina scan and did some biometrics there, unless you're part of a T3 undercover investigation, we don't know who they are. So, and the same thing with illegal aliens. Over 10 men that came across the border, Joe Biden.

• 1:13:02Speaker 20

  There's no way to vet these people. You think El Salvador, or Turkey, or Sudan, or any of these countries have the databases or system checks that we have? Do you think the government of China, Russia, Turkey, you think they're going to share that data with us even if they did have it? There's no way to clearly vet these people, you know, 100% that they're safe to come to this country. From these third world nations. President Trump's doing the right thing. Reviewing every one of these people that came under Biden administration and drilling down on them. I really thoroughly think that most of them are going to end up being deported because we're not going to be able to properly vet them.

• 1:13:36Adam Sosnick?

  This guy's a G. And so that's what he meant by it. Of course. Yeah. So, yeah, the Democrats are obviously trying to pin this on Trump. Well, you're the one that nationalized him. Guys, let's get one thing clear, and just use basic logic here. Do you vet somebody before they walk into your country? Before they walk into your building? Before they walk into your nightclub? Or after they're in there? No, Adam, the Democrats want them to come in. The vetting system is, happens before you walk into a country. Not afterwards. I've traveled many places all over the world. Australia, Costa Rica, Israel, of course, obviously. Obviously. And anytime you go in the country, they go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Before you come in, we're going to check everything on you.

• 1:14:18Adam Sosnick?

  And if you don't clear, you're not coming in the country. America, we almost have it backwards. It's like, we have this, this front door where it's like you have to be vetted. But then this big gaping wide hole back door. Yeah. Wink, wink. That anybody can just come in. Okay. Unvetted. Yeah. So, it, it's illogical. So, of course, they're going to try to pin it on Trump. Yo, bro, you that...

• 1:14:42Speaker 05

  He shouldn't have been in the country in the first place. Okay, but my question is this, though. The intention of the previous administration, I didn't want to say Biden, because he obviously wasn't doing it. Adam, if you let in 80,000 of these people, and you don't even vet them, you know what that means? They're gonna be working, and they gave them cellphones and money, and they say, hey, listen, whenever we need you, we're gonna call you. Go blow this up, or go shoot this, go cause chaos, because the color revolution says unleash disorder. What great characters to use, then freaking people from Afghanistan that are here that have no paperwork, no nothing. And they give them cellphones.

• 1:15:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Bad people that have good training about being bad.

• 1:15:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly, and he worked for the CIA.

• 1:15:19Adam Sosnick?

  You know how you said, you know, bad apple ruins it for the bunch?

• 1:15:22Speaker 05

  A few apples, one apple could ruin the bunch.

• 1:15:24Adam Sosnick?

  That term, the other term you might say is you're only as strong as your weakest link. So the vast majority of people that come over here, the vast majority, whether that's Afghan, or whatever, Venezuelans, the vast majority are reasonable decent people. The challenge, I'm not saying they're not breaking the law.

• 1:15:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't agree with that.

• 1:15:41Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so let me finish my point.

• 1:15:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:15:43Adam Sosnick?

  The vast majority are decent people. Yes, they broke the law, they shouldn't be here. Unless legally, the challenge is the worst of the worst of the worst of these bunch. Whether it's MS-13, whether it's Islamic terrorists, that's where you're gonna see the problems. Because 90% plus people are not doing stuff like this.

• 1:16:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question.

• 1:16:03Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 1:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  The statement, ready? The vast majority of girls are good.

• 1:16:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay. So i-if I said to you, I got a girl I met, who, if I said the vast majority of girls are good, is that blanket statement correct?

• 1:16:25Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean by good?

• 1:16:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, the vast majority of girls from OnlyFans are good. What would you say?

• 1:16:30Adam Sosnick?

  Of OnlyFans are good?

• 1:16:32Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean by good? They're, they're good. They're, they're good people. They're gonna be good wives. The vast majority of girls on OnlyFans. No, that's the antithetical to being an OnlyFans chick. Okay, so now check this out. To me, that statement is a lazy statement because it lacks data. And this is what I mean by, now I'm not trying to take a shot at you. There's nothing you said. No, no, but what I'm trying to say to you is, what we need to use is data. Sure. Look, I don't care if you're a Scientologist. A lot of people trash Scientologists. I've worked with Scientologists for five years. Let me tell you, I loved it. I loved it. I, I don't have anything bad of working with Scientologists.

• 1:17:12Patrick Bet-David?

  They work their freaking asses off. I don't know why. They work their asses off. Guy comes to me from Q organization, whatever it's called, Q work, what is that called, Rob? Q work, am I saying it correctly, or, uh, can, can you look it up, this Scientologist organization called something Q? I've interviewed a lot of these guys. I've interviewed a lot of these guys. Okay. And it's like, well, when you're in it, you don't understand, you don't understand what it does, you don't understand what it, you know, all this other stuff. There's a name for it, Rob, something, um, Sea Org, the Sea Org, that's what it's called. I said Q. Sea Org. If you come from a Sea Org, they're some of the hardest working people ever. Now, you may say, well, because you don't know what Miscavige and others do on the inside? Fine. I don't have any bad experience with Scientologists.

• 1:17:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Me personally, okay? Mormons. There's a lot of stuff that people say with Mormons. Guess what? I work with some heavy, heavy, heavy weight Mormons. And I mean heavyweight. Mm-hmm. Like, leadership involved Mormons. LDS. You know what my experience was? Incredible. I had incredible experience with Mormons. Me too. On how they were. I've been to Bountiful, I've been to, uh, St. George, I've been to, you know, Salt Lake, God knows how many times. Never had any experience. I don't care what your religion, what country you're coming from, what your skin color is. I've dated more black girls than I've dated white girls. It's not, you know, but, but I'm not saying that to you. I never cared. It's not, to me, I wasn't like

• 1:18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  the typical Middle Eastern, so we have to marry an Armenian. It's like, my, my wife's a white girl from Texas, okay? I tell this story for the following reason. Data reveals results. This weekend Tucker and Pierce Morgan do podcasts together, which I thought it was a great podcast. They do podcasts together.

• 1:18:55Adam Sosnick?

  The F word podcast.

• 1:18:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Forget about the F bomb thing, but there's another one that's, you know, you see where it's like, uh, uh, there is one where, uh, it's, it's like, yeah, I mean, Pakistanis have never done anything to me.

• 1:19:07Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 1:19:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, they've never done, I don't know if you have, you saw this one or not, Rob. I don't know if you have the clip, if you have a plate.

• 1:19:12Adam Sosnick?

  Tucker defended Pakistani taxi drivers as if they've never done anything.

• 1:19:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They've never done, they've never done anything to me.

• 1:19:18Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 1:19:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So if you say like, they've never done anything to you. Yeah, they're probably physically not interested in you.

• 1:19:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, you're not underage.

• 1:19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  They don't look at you and say, oh my God, he is so sexy. Like, let me find a way. Is this it, Rob? Is that the exchange or is that another one?

• 1:19:35Adam Sosnick?

  A very short one right here.

• 1:19:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's hear this one here. Let's see what this one says.

• 1:19:40Speaker 21

  No, not at all. Again, what's who's gonna do anything? Pakistanis are all super nice to me and the whites are all kind of craven and sad. No, you're totally safe here, man.

• 1:19:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Pakistanis are super nice to me. Okay.

• 1:19:54Adam Sosnick?

  He's probably met like three Pakistanis in his life.

• 1:19:56Patrick Bet-David?

  They, they, they talk about, this is the part that Americans have to fully get a little bit deeper with data. You can track data. You can track, there's this guy that just did a debate with Daniel Hegi Ajou, Andrew Well, Andrew Wellner, Wellner, Weller, Waller. You know who this guy is.

• 1:20:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, he's a great debater. I know you're talking about Andrew.

• 1:20:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, what's his name? He's phenomenal. He's phenomenal. Uh, and I like that he's a little bit edgy. He, he, he's, what is the guy's name? What is the guy's name? Um, uh, uh, uh, Adam, you know this guy's name. What is his name?

• 1:20:32Adam Sosnick?

  Let me find, let me see what you're looking for.

• 1:20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, he said something. He said something about.

• 1:20:35Adam Sosnick?

  Andrew Wilson are you talking about?

• 1:20:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if it's Wilson or not.

• 1:20:37Adam Sosnick?

  I'm pretty sure it is.

• 1:20:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it Andrew Wilson?

• 1:20:39Adam Sosnick?

  Pull up Andrew Wilson. This guy right here, Pat?

• 1:20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

• 1:20:45Adam Sosnick?

  He's very good.

• 1:20:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So he did a debate with Daniel, and we've had Daniel on the podcast before.

• 1:20:52Adam Sosnick?

  The Muslim guy.

• 1:20:52Patrick Bet-David?

  The Muslim guy, and they're going back and forth.

• 1:20:55Adam Sosnick?

  This debate.

• 1:20:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And he, uh...

• 1:20:58Adam Sosnick?

  This debate right here, sir?

• 1:20:59Patrick Bet-David?

  That debate right there, yeah, and they talk about...

• 1:21:01Adam Sosnick?

  He crushed him.

• 1:21:01Patrick Bet-David?

  They talk about low IQ.

• 1:21:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And he says, he says, "Why is it that the low IQ in a Muslim?" He is going through the data. And he says, "Because it's tied to incest."

• 1:21:11Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and cousins. So there is no rebuttal to that, so what's wrong with that, right? But then you're going even deeper into that, that's data. Guess what? If, let's just say, all of a sudden Muslims figured out that if incest increased the IQ to over 200 and bred kids, that created the safest civilization. Safest civilization with the lowest crime rate.

• 1:21:36Adam Sosnick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:21:36Patrick Bet-David?

  With the highest level of advancement in technology and security. You know what you would sit there and say? What would you sit there and say?

• 1:21:43Adam Sosnick?

  We need more of those guys.

• 1:21:44Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but think about it for a second.

• 1:21:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:21:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Flip it for a second. If data showed you right now, "Hey, these Muslims are up to something." What's that? Sleeping with your cousin creates 180 average IQ. There's a reason why Muslims have the highest IQ from Pakistan.

• 1:21:59Adam Sosnick?

  Hmm.

• 1:22:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's because they have incest. You know what people would actually say? You know what people would actually say? They'll say, "Well, I'm not with it, but very interesting."

• 1:22:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, very interesting. Why would God create that?

• 1:22:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:10Patrick Bet-David?

  The question is, why would God create lower IQ when you do incest?

• 1:22:14Adam Sosnick?

  Because it's unnatural.

• 1:22:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it's unnatural to do something like that, right? Why would he do that?

• 1:22:18Adam Sosnick?

  It actually creates the dumbest people. It's his argument. It's the numbers on that.

• 1:22:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That's that guy's argument that he was making, this Andrew Welner, Andrew Wilson.

• 1:22:24Adam Sosnick?

  Andrew Wilson.

• 1:22:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Andrew Wilson guy, very good debater. I don't mean to disrespect the guy, he's a very good debater, I like, I like the way he...

• 1:22:30Adam Sosnick?

  Now he's going to debate you over his last name, sir.

• 1:22:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, he's okay, he's the ME before, he's the ME before, and I like the way he communicates. All I'm going to when you say, "Majority of the people that come here are good." That's a lie. We can't even say decent. We don't know. We don't know, because what I want to do is, every time they take shots at Indians. Indians are coming and taking over America, okay? There is people that are America first, and there are people that are America only, and there are people that don't want anybody to come here from any other place. I understand argument. Let's set that argument aside, which is what, America only? Now go to the America first argument. If Indians come over here and we're getting Indian engineers coming from IIT that are better than our MIT grads, well, we may want to entertain getting some of those guys to come here.

• 1:23:14Patrick Bet-David?

  If you wonder how Indians raise their kids and why are they the highest paid immigrants in America? You know Indians make the most money in America. I don't know if you know that or not. No immigrant makes more money than Indian Americans, Americans do.

• 1:23:25Speaker 05

  Good for them.

• 1:23:25Patrick Bet-David?

  If you look at the stats. Why is that? There's a reason for that.

• 1:23:29Speaker 05

  Probably not a lot of incest.

• 1:23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  If we were to sit there, if we were to sit there and size up data, we can't say what you just said right there. Which is what? Most of them are decent, because it's not true. Pull up the data. There's a story that came out with one of the Muslims that got arrested and his profile, when he did his ID, it said white. And a lot of Caucasians are like, no wonder crime for whites are being shown the way it is. Because every Muslim that comes here, they put them as white.

• 1:23:59Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:23:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you didn't see this?

• 1:24:00Speaker 05

  Crime reporting in a bunch of states in the United States. So black guys, Middle Eastern guys, Arabs, they say white.

• 1:24:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I think if there's... No, no. I think if there's anything that we have to look at, is study the data. Study the data. If Muslims and Somali, if Somalis came to Boca Raton and unemployment went down, crime went down, income for people went up, safety went up, okay? Job creation went up. You know what you would say? Send me some more Somalis.

• 1:24:33Speaker 05

  Yup.

• 1:24:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody cares if you're Somali or Muslim or Christian or Scientologist or LDS. Nobody cares. All they care about is what do you do when you move to a place? During this conversation with Pierce Morgan, they kind of wanted to talk in trash. This is the part where maybe we disagree with Tommy Robinson. I think Tommy plays a very important role. I think Tucker says, I don't even know who Tommy Robinson is. Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not.

• 1:24:56Speaker 05

  I do.

• 1:24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a clip that says, uh, I don't even know who Tommy Robinson is. I don't know which one you got.

• 1:25:03Speaker 05

  You want to read this article?

• 1:25:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm just going to go to this because it's, it's a, it kind of goes into this. They kind of go hand in hand. Rob, there's another clip. You may want to play this one that shows, I know which one you have. Is this the same exact one that you have?

• 1:25:18Speaker 05

  Uh, I'm not sure.

• 1:25:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, just pull this one up. And you'll see how this one goes. Because there's something going on here that we're uncomfortable talking about. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:25:28Speaker 21

  An argument with a Muslim, with an actual Muslim. I'm from Bangladesh, I'm a Muslim. We probably agree on a lot. It's the secular self-hating whites that stand up from the table and leave when I'm eating with them here. About Sharia law. A strikingly large number of Muslims would like to see it supplant civil law in the countries in which they live.

• 1:25:46Speaker 12

  Have you no threatened walking around?

• 1:25:48Speaker 21

  No, not at all.

• 1:25:49Speaker 12

  Of course.

• 1:25:49Speaker 21

  Again, what's who's gonna do anything? Pakistanis are all super nice to me and the whites are all kind of craven and sad. No, you're totally safe here, man.

• 1:25:57Speaker 12

  The United States, driven by people like Tommy Robinson here.

• 1:26:00Speaker 21

  Who's Tommy Robbins?

• 1:26:01Speaker 12

  You know Tommy Robinson.

• 1:26:02Speaker 21

  He seems like a fraud to me.

• 1:26:03Speaker 12

  Well, he's not even Tommy Robinson. His name's Stephen Yaxley. It's not even his real name. He's also convicted of multiple crimes. Thuggery, fraud.

• 1:26:11Speaker 21

  I don't even know anything about him, but he doesn't seem... I don't even know anything about him, but he...

• 1:26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you have him on your show then, Tucker? Since you don't know anything about him. Adam, stop. Rewind a little bit. Oh my God, let the...

• 1:26:25Speaker 21

  The United Kingdom has become a mere shadow of the nation that gave us freedom of speech, freedom of the press, a host of other rights that we take for granted but probably should not take for granted. Nobody knows that better than Tommy Robinson. In May of this year, he was arrested for attempting to cover the trial of a sexual grooming gang in the UK.

• 1:26:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So he didn't know him, but he did a whole segment about him.

• 1:26:39Speaker 05

  Well, he said, "I don't know him." And then immediately after, it was like, "I think he's a fraud." You can't say, "I don't know him," and then accuse him of being something. And on the flip side as well, even Pierce, Pierce knows who he is. He's the only, one of the only ones actually sticking up for the people and calling out all the crap that's happening with these Pakistani rape gangs. And I don't know why it's, especially with Tucker acting like he doesn't know who he is.

• 1:27:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually understand Pierce's position.

• 1:27:05Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 1:27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why I understand Pierce's position? Because Pierce and Tommy have a history of 10, 15 years. So I get it. There's animosity there. I fully understand that. I'm trying to find out Tucker's position. What's Tucker's position with Tommy Robinson? I... I don't understand what Tucker's position was with Tommy Robinson. Do you, he knows the stats, Tucker knows the stats.

• 1:27:29Speaker 05

  So why would he, why would he, why would he act like, like Pakistanis, and mind you, when you talk about the stats, look at the numbers of the rape gangs that they covered up for how many years? Just because Tucker's going in a cab and they're nice, okay, the taxi driver thinks that you're nice, but you can't deny the fact that it's been a freaking epidemic for how many, what, 10? 10 plus years where the, the share, everybody was covering up the problems? And, and just really quick, Adam, Robbie, I sent you the, the Slack, the FBI crumb stats? When they, when we say that they're rigged, there was a guy, the Afghan national who just tried to bomb Texas. Look what they have him as.

• 1:28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the one I was talking about.

• 1:28:05Speaker 05

  Look at that, but, oh weird, he's white. He's white. That's like calling Saddam Hussein a cracker. Like, it doesn't make sense? And that, no, it, it's true, because people are like, Vinny, you're white, oh, okay.

• 1:28:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Tommy responds to this, Rob, I don't know if you have the Tommy response to, uh, uh, Pierce? And to, uh, to Tucker? And Tommy, I don't know how you describe Tommy. Tommy is, is, well, he for sure is a gangster.

• 1:28:29Speaker 05

  In a good way, I mean.

• 1:28:30Patrick Bet-David?

  But Elon retweeted his documentary that got a couple hundred million views and he got arrested. And by the way, you know who funds his, Elon funds his court case, Elon funds his legal case.

• 1:28:40Speaker 05

  And he won, right?

• 1:28:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go on and play the, play the clip, Rob.

• 1:28:44Speaker 22

  Tucker Colson on the video yesterday talking about he has more in common with his Pakistani taxi driver than he does some white, middle-class American. Yeah, what do you know? What does Tucker Colson know about living in a Pakistani town? 50% of my town's Pakistani. You don't know nothing about Pakistani taxi drivers? We do, we're beaten up by my whole, our, growing up. Our daughters are abused by them, our wives, our wives are harassed by them. Yet you pretend you know something? What do you know in the United States of America about growing up around Islamic immigration? They're all talking about, oh, the Muslims and the Christians are together. Yeah, come and say that in Europe. Come experience that in Europe. We're not together. They're not with us, you clowns. But I listen to all these new right-wing commentators talking just because they hate Jews or hate Israel,

• 1:29:29Speaker 22

  saying we need to work together with the Muslims. Yeah? Come and speak to people who live with Islam. It fucking, it's infuriating. I'm watching like, even Tucker Colson thinking, what do you know about Pakistani taxi drivers, mate? What do you know? Do you know who's ferried all of our girls round in every town, city? In Rotherham, Telford, Oldham, Rochdale, Birmingham, Bradford, Leeds? Every city where our daughter's been raped. Who ferried them round? Pakistani taxi drivers. Tucker, your mates. Who you'd rather hang around with? You know nothing about this subject. So don't try talking about it just because Qatar are in your back ass.

• 1:30:05Adam Sosnick?

  Ooh.

• 1:30:06Speaker 22

  Because it's pretty infuriating.

• 1:30:07Speaker 05

  I mean.

• 1:30:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You say what?

• 1:30:08Speaker 05

  Because Qatar's in your back ass.

• 1:30:10Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean?

• 1:30:11Speaker 05

  He's like, he's in the back pocket.

• 1:30:13Adam Sosnick?

  Tucker is funded by Qatar.

• 1:30:15Speaker 05

  You're wrong. Well, not to cut you off, but I have to? Why else would Tucker switch? Like, how do you change your stance? Act like you don't know who this guy is? And try to just say because you've been in a couple taxi cabs in London or wherever he?

• 1:30:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Go speculate. One, to me, he's trolling. Two, he is intentionally doing this, okay? Is it fair to say that Tucker is high IQ, extremely brilliant?

• 1:30:40Speaker 05

  1,000%.

• 1:30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so there are certain. I had a guy who, extremely brilliant guy. And I told him, I said, you know, you know what authority you lose? The moment you claim you're very smart? He says, what? I said, you're very good at going around telling everybody how smart you are and how high of an IQ score you got. He says, yeah? I said, you lose the permission to act dumb. You know exactly what you're doing. You know exactly what you're doing. And he was like stuck right there, didn't know what to say. Tucker's a very high IQ guy. What is he doing? What are you doing? I don't understand what you're doing. Now, by the way, when you live in Maine, I don't know the population of Pakistanis in Maine.

• 1:31:18Speaker 05

  Because you live in zero.

• 1:31:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know the population of Pakistanis in Florida. I don't know that. I don't know where you live and how close you live. To me, it's all data. If the stats comes out and tells me what they're producing? If it's that great, more. If it produces none, then, then leave it alone and don't, don't go back to it. I, I, I'm having a hard time really understanding his argument. I get Pierce's, I don't know what Tucker's doing.

• 1:31:43Speaker 05

  And not, and just really, and really, really quick. And just to be, you want to talk about stats, you want to talk about numbers? There is approximately 2 billion Muslims in the world, okay? Let's just say, and this is going to be a very conservative number. 15% of that 2 billion, my math guys, 15% hate America, wish that we would die and they would love to do jihad and kill and, and destroy us. Out of that 2 billion, if 15%, and I'm being very low, how many people worldwide is that that want to hate and kill us?

• 1:32:16Patrick Bet-David?

  300 million.

• 1:32:17Speaker 05

  300 mil, that's.

• 1:32:19Adam Sosnick?

  The population of America, Hoss.

• 1:32:20Speaker 05

  That's Ameri, imagine America wants to kill us, okay? There's no effing around, but there's no messing around about it. And the stats with the Pakistanis and the, and Mohammed with the underage girl. And by the way, I saw a video, Pat, a priest read the Quran 123 separate times. It called for violence against people like us, against Christians. And one of the main ones was stabbing us in the neck. And isn't it weird though that in Europe and all these European places, when these, when the Muslims are stabbing people, where are they going? They're going for the jugular. So don't give me that nonsense, okay? Yes, there are good people, Adam, but at the end of the day, when you have 300 people that want to kill us and we're just letting people come in here and they're sucking our system dry and killing us, I have a huge problem with that. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

• 1:33:04Adam Sosnick?

  Can I make a, a suggestion?

• 1:33:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:33:07Adam Sosnick?

  Just pure speculation. You know how last week PBD speculated that Tucker is following Nick Fuentes, not the other way around? I'd mean this sincerely. Tucker is so establishment, so mainstream, so TV, that he forgets that when you do internet stuff, social media stuff, that the internet is forever. He thinks in his mind, this could be completely wrong, that yeah, it's on TV, the episode's out, it's gone. What Tucker, I guess, fails to remember is that when you post it on social media or the internet, you can go back 5, 10, 20 years and find out what you said. So you can't play dumb because people will bring receipts. So. Tommy Robinson? You're gonna question with Tommy Robinson?

• 1:33:51Adam Sosnick?

  So here's another example of the last time that Tucker sat down with a Pierce Morgan, and he asked him a similar question about allies Qatar, Israel, and Tucker played dumb again, just like he didn't know who Tommy Robinson was, or he's completely oblivious to what's going on with these Pakistani rape games. Go ahead.

• 1:34:12Speaker 12

  America's supporting Israel because it's an ally.

• 1:34:16Speaker 21

  I don't even know what those words mean.

• 1:34:17Adam Sosnick?

  I don't even know what an ally is.

• 1:34:18Speaker 12

  They're an ally, right? I mean, they both.

• 1:34:20Speaker 21

  I don't know what that means to be an ally. Qatar is like one of our closest allies in the world. The largest American airbase in the Middle East is in Qatar. They're a close ally of ours.

• 1:34:30Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, that was six months apart. So on one hand, and this isn't even a political thing. This is you don't know what an ally is, and then you're defending an ally. The problem that I have with Tucker, yes, he's smart. Yes, he's been around the block. He's fake. I can't trust what he has to say. You know, people have scores. Well, you know, I trust him. I don't trust, yeah. Tucker to me is fake, and he's not a leader. He's a follower. He's a fake follower who's smart, and now he's playing the internet game, but he's losing because people forget that the internet is forever.

• 1:34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I think if Tucker was 22 today, he'd be the king of rage baiting. I think he would be a rage baiting son of a, you know what?

• 1:35:07Adam Sosnick?

  Rage, so, okay.

• 1:35:08Patrick Bet-David?

  He would be a guy that would know, like, listen, I know what it is to have a kid that knows how to get under everybody's skin. And you ever met kids like that that know how to get under your skin?

• 1:35:19Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 1:35:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Like they throw comments? That's Tucker. He's not only is he brilliant, not only did he go to a great private school, but then at the same time, not only does he have education from his father, who is extremely well read, and then at the same time, his father's CIA voice America, and he happens to be entertaining and knows how to, so he is a, he's not a triple threat. He's like a quadruple threat of where he's at. All I'm asking right now is, I don't know where he's going, and I don't know what he's doing, and they don't add up. It just doesn't add up. And I'm a guy that, historically, I've always been a fan of Tucker. I've always liked him. I've always thought he was necessary. We had this one group that came. Trigonometry.

• 1:36:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course, Konstantin Kissin.

• 1:36:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's great. He's very talented as well. Uh, you know, he came asking me questions about Tucker versus Shapiro and all this other stuff. And it's like, well, you know, and Candace and all these things. Yeah, I look at talent and then I look at philosophy. But then you have to see when somebody suddenly flips.

• 1:36:23Adam Sosnick?

  Mm hmm. Well, there's another term, sir. So you said you call it rage baiting. Some might call it gaslighting. There's another term out there. When you speak one way to a one group and then you speak away to a totally different group, it's called code switching.

• 1:36:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh.

• 1:36:38Adam Sosnick?

  So they're like, oh, you'll speak this way, like how Kamala Harris.

• 1:36:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't hang out with 20 year olds like you. I don't know these terms.

• 1:36:42Adam Sosnick?

  Just saying. Look, but Tucker, code switching. So it's like how Kamala Harris will be like, hey, y'all, how my black people are, how we doing? Jasmine Croft. Exactly. Then a white room should be like, hello, everybody. How we all doing? It's like, you're fake. That's not who you are.

• 1:36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:58Adam Sosnick?

  Tucker forgets that when he code switches on camera.

• 1:37:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know what's a part of, you know, what's a part of what I love where we are. Okay. Because I wonder how a lot of these guys look at us.

• 1:37:08Adam Sosnick?

  They look down on us, PBD.

• 1:37:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it. I don't mind it.

• 1:37:12Adam Sosnick?

  We're not on their level.

• 1:37:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no. I don't, I don't view it that way. This is how I view it. I don't think I view it as they look down at us. I think because the track record of where we come from, they don't know what, but we lose $20 million a year not taking sponsorship money. Do you know that?

• 1:37:31Adam Sosnick?

  I'm aware, sir.

• 1:37:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I don't know if you know that.

• 1:37:33Adam Sosnick?

  I am. I know we don't take sponsorship money. We're the only, like, yeah, we're the only podcast that has.

• 1:37:38Patrick Bet-David?

  We lose $20 million a year, give or take, not taking sponsorship money. 20 million a year. The company is 100% owned. The only company that there's a strategic partner in is Minact, which Tony Robbins became an investor in. Everything else is 100% owner in. Okay. Everything else. Line Holding, Bitdive Consulting, everything that we do, right? I think a part of it is. Where do you like even the people that are like wow you know these guys get their money from this this this and that even seven thousand dollars you think I need seven thousand dollars I mean I wish I know you get every time I don't even tweet a lot I'm told tweet more I'm not even

• 1:38:19Patrick Bet-David?

  if you go count how many times I've tweeted in the last 30 days you can probably count how many times I've tweeted in the last 30 days you know sometimes you go on someone's profile and you're kind of like oh my god he's got 18 tweets in a day I'm not that guy okay if you count how many tweets I've had in the last 30 days Rob can we actually are you counting it actually okay count in the last 30 days how many times I've tweeted in the last 30 days the number is gonna be very small because I don't tweet that often okay you know I wish I could I'm not tweeting that often I'm typically retweeting a PBD podcast or value attainment or something else somebody tweeted and I'm you know every once in a while I get a chance I'll see something I'll retweet but for us we have no ties to the establishment media how many times Rob

• 1:39:04Speaker 23

  38 but a majority of those were like you said retweets of PBD podcast or

• 1:39:09Patrick Bet-David?

  so how many times you think in the last 30 days I actually tweeted something

• 1:39:13Speaker 23

  less than 15 because most of those were retweets of other things

• 1:39:16Patrick Bet-David?

  so to us we run companies we're doing what we're doing we have a certain vision we love America we actually in a craziest way I actually love Ben Shapiro giving his opinions as well as Tucker as well as Candace as well as curse as well as any of these guys go talk you know when they said I can't believe Tucker had Nick Fuentes on what the hell are you talking about I got people that message me and saying after having Nick on you're done but I got messages after having Nick now saying now that you have Nick now on you're dead we're gonna kill you right so to me it's like stop it everybody should talk to everybody the more they're talking the better it is good we need more of that but to me

• 1:39:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Your priority, if you live in America, it better be to keep America safe. If that part becomes a problem, my own relatives become problems to me. I don't care who you are. If you start messing around with America's safety and I got four kids, I have no tolerance for you. I don't care how great of a person you are, I don't care how high your IQ is. If you compromise the risk of America and allowing people in from Somalia and all these other places, Afghans without them being vetted, I don't have any tolerance for you if you're going casual in that area. I don't. I fear one person, only one, and trust me, I really fear this one person. And that's God. It's not even a person. One thing I fear. Like, I can't even tell you how much I fear God. I wish you know how much I fear God.

• 1:40:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Because my life doesn't make sense. I'm a regular guy that has a great life. I fear God a lot, a lot. Uh, you know, when you're, when you're on your knees praying and nothing's going your way and you beg God to give you an opportunity and this guy was about to go back in the army because I was $49,000 in debt. And then all of a sudden, opportunity comes along and I try to be a firefighter and I would have been a firefighter 20 years lifer. I wanted to apply being a firefighter and they had a freeze in LA for five years or something. And then all of a sudden, by the time they said, "We're open, we're hiring, you can come and apply to be a firefighter", I was already making $100,000 selling insurance. If they would have sent me that letter a year earlier, I'm a firefighter, 20 years, probably retiring at 40, 45 years old. Completely different life. I don't meet Brooklyn, I don't meet

• 1:41:27Patrick Bet-David?

  send out on me, Dylan out on me, Tikka out on me, don't meet none of you guys, and you don't know me. Because I'm a firefighter. I'm an Assyrian Armenian firefighter, can walk in with my little hose or whatever, carrying out going, making something. Yeah, that's who I am, okay? I'm a firefighter, frickin' Middle Eastern firefighter, I should make that right.

• 1:41:43Adam Sosnick?

  You'd make the calendar.

• 1:41:44Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm telling you this, because all I'm saying is this. You know, if, if you don't protect America, we're not on the same page. And, and, and there's a lot of people that fear, a lot of these people, oh my God, what if they attack me? What if this, this is how much I care about, you know, any of that stuff attacking. What I care about is America, being the greatest country in the world, because it is. And I want to keep it that way. And if God put this on my heart, we're on, July 15th of 2009, I created a Facebook page called Saving America. Hosted an event called Saving America by bringing back the free enterprise system and hope to American families. Led to our mission statement to start an insurance company.

• 1:42:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And I brought Larry Greenfield, I brought Dudley Rutherford, and I brought Michael Reagan, Ronald Reagan's stepson, to talk about how great his father was, and I was dressed as George Washington. Can you go back to Patrick by David George Washington? If you've never seen this picture, um.

• 1:42:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And Jen dresses as Lady Liberty, I believe, right? Lady Liberty, yeah, her and I, George Washington. If you go to images, pretty embarrassing picture right there, look at that. Look at you, great hair. Yeah, that's a Middle Eastern George Washington, it just makes no sense. What's the date? July 17th, 2009, back in the days when we used to actually put the date on pictures that we had. So to me, that's where I'm at. If I don't get invited to the parties, if I don't get invited to any of this stuff, but this stays the greatest country in the world, I'm very happy. And I see where Trump is going, and I see his anger, and I see how frustrated he is with, you know, some of these people that were letting America thinking it's not a big deal. I feel his frustration, and I hope he stays that way.

• 1:43:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Because that's what we will also support. But anyways, guys, I'm telling you this last week, we have been horrible at making friends this last week. But I'm gonna tell you, if anybody is in a place of just wanting to sit there and say, look, all I care about is my wife, my kids, my husband, my family. Let me have my life and enjoy myself and keep America safe as the greatest country in the world. We're on the same page, we don't have to agree on everything. And by the way, I don't care if you're a Muslim and you believe in that. I don't care if you're a Scientologist and believe in that. I don't care if you're white, black, Asian, Indian. I don't care what you are. If you love America, if you want to make this country the greatest country in the world, keep it that way, protect it, we're gonna be okay together. And that's what we're gonna be doing the rest of our lives.

• 1:44:10Patrick Bet-David?

  As long as God wants to keep us here, we're gonna do our part because we firmly believe future looks bright. But we also believe at times you have to kind of, it's not comfortable having these types of conversations because you like these guys. Because there's a part of you that watch these guys. Like, I like Glenn Beck. I grew up watching a lot of Glenn Beck. He was my guy. Fox, back in the days, when he would do his shows, I thought he was the best. My number one Fox guy ever, and it's not even close. And when I say it's not even close, it's not even close. It was always Glenn Beck. He was always number one. You always say he's the best teacher. Never. No, nobody's ever been ahead of Beck for me, ever. Awesome. Beck was number one for me, the way he was doing things. But guess what? You see each other, you know, everybody has different opinions, different philosophies, different upbringing, and I get that.

• 1:44:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't mind Nick Fontes's upbringing. He has his own upbringing. I have my own. Tucker has his own. Everybody has their own. But the moment you're playing games to defend somebody who gave you money and who's behind... Listen, guy gives me 10 million bucks investment to our company. My first investor, big one. First one was a million, the other one was 10 million. He sits in a meeting telling me, "You better get all your sales guys vaccinated." Oh, man. And I said, "It's values over the flipping money you gave me." It was a four-hour meeting that we had, three, four-hour meeting that we had, just to get everybody in PHP vaccinated. I said, "I'm not doing that." He says, "Why not?" I said, "Do you realize the vision of the company was simply created by freedom of choice? You want me to go tell all my guys to get their vaccination? You're out of your freaking mind for me to do that."

• 1:45:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Good. We're not, if they want to do it, I'm not gonna judge them. If they don't want to do it, I'm not gonna judge them. My own dad, who was the biggest conservative in our family, got the vaccination, and he knows I wasn't for it. But guess what we did? Totally supported. He got two shots, and then the booster, three boosters that he got. My dad. We're not on the same page on that. Guess what? We don't judge, we don't say what to do. Here's what I did. We didn't take it. Here's my wife and I kids did. We didn't take it. Whatever you want to do, you go do. It was the most heated moment ever. I don't care how much money you give me to come and tell me to change some of the values and principles. And by the way, you know what is gonna come? Let me tell you what's gonna come next, Vinny. Because this is not safe haven for them. You know why it's not? You know who hates this? Who do you think hates organizations like this?

• 1:46:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You think, you think we're not about to get some massive hit piece hate even from some people on our own side coming after us? Just wait for it. You know why? Oh, let me tell you how bad it's going to be. You'll see how bad it's going to be. And it's going to be from people that we've supported and maybe we're on the same page as well. They're going to be the ugly one. The way they're going to do it is, I don't think they're going to do it like this. Because that's one way of doing it. But they're going to do it like this. Let me tell you those guys, you know who they are? Let me tell you those guys, you know who they are? Let me tell you those guys, let me tell you what this, did you read this article about them with insurance? Did you see what's going on in the background? I heard about this and I heard about that. And the story's going to come out. And then we're going to get here. Well, if you don't do this, we're going to do this.

• 1:47:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're going to be like, post it.

• 1:47:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Go ahead.

• 1:47:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Post it.

• 1:47:13Tom Ellsworth?

  It's coming.

• 1:47:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Because I'm telling you it's coming.

• 1:47:16Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe it.

• 1:47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I am telling you it's coming.

• 1:47:18Tom Ellsworth?

  It's going to be, they're going to create things on AI. Oh, you, you were at this party in college. There you are. You did this, you did that. It'll come like that and it'll be out of nowhere because the real question will be is, why this? Why now? And everybody listening and everybody in this room, just remember, don't get angry first. When you see the hits, when you see things, first say to yourself, why this? Why now? And they'll tell you a lot of what you need to know.

• 1:47:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, we're going to keep doing our part.

• 1:47:44Adam Sosnick?

  It won't work. That's my opinion and I'll tell you why. Uh, because we've been nothing, when I say we, I mean you as the leader and then the rest of us, been nothing but honest about who we are. It's, it's the Eminem approach from Eight Mile. Yeah, I lived in a trailer. Yeah, I'm white trash. Yeah, my girl, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. Yeah, you know it. Yes, you're a former bodybuilder. Yes, you came from Iran. Yes, Tom did this. Yes, we're full disclosure on everything.

• 1:48:07Tom Ellsworth?

  All right, what did I do?

• 1:48:08Adam Sosnick?

  If you don't, you came from Canada, we won't hold it against you.

• 1:48:10Speaker 05

  You love four women.

• 1:48:11Tom Ellsworth?

  All right, all right.

• 1:48:12Adam Sosnick?

  But the point is this. Like, whatever's been said about this, it's pretty much been out there. What else are they gonna come up with?

• 1:48:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh.

• 1:48:18Adam Sosnick?

  That they, that, that is actually true.

• 1:48:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Never underestimate. Never underestimate the power of propaganda.

• 1:48:23Adam Sosnick?

  The crap won't come out there. But it won't work because... Smear campaign. It's like, why do these, why do stories not work against Donald Trump? Cause he goes, "Yes, I said it. It is what it is." That's why. Guess what? I, I guess what? Bring it on.

• 1:48:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, I give you this. One thing to think about.

• 1:48:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Vincento.

• 1:48:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Who screwed Bernie Sanders in South Carolina? His own frickin' people.

• 1:48:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yup.

• 1:48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  It won't work, guys. I'm just telling you, it's not gonna work. I'm telling you.

• 1:48:48Adam Sosnick?

  Aw, please bring it.

• 1:48:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so, so anyways, let me get to the next story here.

• 1:48:51Adam Sosnick?

  So that was all directed...

• 1:48:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:54Adam Sosnick?

  The beginning of this Tucker story.

• 1:48:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, this is not directed at Tucker.

• 1:48:57Adam Sosnick?

  The story was starting with Tucker.

• 1:48:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 1:48:59Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Because, because to me, you know, I have a whole slew of opinions on certain things that's going on, but little by little, we'll keep talking here. So, okay, let me get to the next thing here. Trump, US may almost completely scrap, scrap income taxes due to tariff revenue. Now, you know what that is, like, that's kinda like, you, you, you're talking dirty to a girl and you say, "You won't even know what I'm gonna do to you tonight." And then, later on, it's like, what? It only was like 48 seconds. I thought you were gonna really... Well, yeah, but next time. You won't even believe what I'm gonna do to you next time. President Trump is talking dirty.

• 1:49:39Adam Sosnick?

  Oh.

• 1:49:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Here, okay? And taxpayers are sitting there saying, "Man, keep talking dirty to me." Okay? You won't even know what I'm gonna do to your taxes. What are you gonna do to my taxes? I'm gonna eliminate them. And you won't be paying any of it because of tariff income taxes. "Oh my God, this is so great. I'm getting so excited." It's what it's sounding like, right? That's a pretty big, uh, uh, promise, if you can pull it off. Here's President Trump, talking dirty to all taxpayers in America. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 1:51:01Speaker 24

  ... I think we'll substantially be cutting and maybe cutting out completely, but we'll be cutting income tax. Could be almost completely cutting it because the money we're taking is going to be so large. And yet, other countries who have been ripping us off for many, many years, and many years they've just been ripping us to shreds.

• 1:51:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, Tom, what are the chances that we're getting rid of income taxes?

• 1:51:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, zero. The federal government establishment will never allow that knob to be removed. That knob on their dashboard is precious. Um, now, do I believe that Trump has a vision to do it? Absolutely. Am I aligned with that vision and I hope that this can come true? Absolutely. But I'll tell you, it's going to be tough to get there. And the analysis early on that says it'll reduce the deficit by 2.8 trillion. Deficit is different from debt. As long as we have a deficit, we're making more debt every year. And so, we need to remove deficit to zero so we have something of a surplus, now we

• 1:52:16Tom Ellsworth?

  can start paying off debt. And I don't think that the establishment would let it go away. Now, can the tariffs get so high that he can put in a massive tax cut that says, hey, look? This is now being replaced by this, so I'm gonna take the weight off the American people, and I'm gonna really reduce income taxes. Yep, I think, could that come in two years? I believe it definitely could. It'll be a fight, and the midterms have to go well, but if the midterms go at least well enough to keep enough of the House, and the tariffs show that they're generating that, then on the second half, the lame duck part of his presidency, as they call it, you know, 26 to 28, you know what? Could he radically cut income taxes?

• 1:53:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely, he could. Remember, once upon a time, the country was run on tariffs. Once upon a time, that's where we got it.

• 1:53:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And not a long time ago, by the way, 110 years ago.

• 1:53:10Tom Ellsworth?

  That's correct.

• 1:53:11Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not talking about 200 years ago, into 1700s or 1800s.

• 1:53:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I believe that the total income tax emergence was the four years after World War I. I believe it's like 16, 19, you know, 1916 to 1920, I believe, is when the emergence of it was, the modern tax. So, and, by the way, that was when the charities were created, because they wanted to find ways to get Carnegie and others to invest into things like hospitals and schools and stuff, and so they created the tax deduction, you know, moments after the tax was created, the tax deduction was created. But that's my two cents. I think, could we see it come down? Yes, we could. But I don't think the establishment in Washington should, you know, would let it happen.

• 1:53:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Look how much they fight the balanced budget amendment. The balanced budget amendment that simply says, the states have to balance their budgets, so does the federal government. They don't want that, because they are perfectly content to debt us into the future.

• 1:54:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, CBO says, estimates that before accounting for economic side effects, the new tariffs will reduce primary deficits by $2.5 trillion and cut interest payments by another $500 billion for total deficit reduction of $3 trillion. After factoring in modest economic track, slightly lower GDP and temporarily higher inflation, the net deficit reduction is pegged at $2.8 trillion. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:54:34Tom Ellsworth?

  So, this is part of a bigger story that is basically pervasive in America today, and it's this whole concept about affordability.

• 1:54:40Adam Sosnick?

  So if you've heard this buzzword that keeps popping up affordability, affordability, affordability, this used to be called it's the economy stupid. Now it's it's affordability stupid. So the cost of living has skyrocketed in America over the last decade. This is what happens when you print trillions of dollars, quantitative easing, as they call it, or quantitative tightening in some respects. But we're living in the greatest country ever created, the greatest country in the world. But for a lot of people, it doesn't feel that way because they can't afford anything. That's why a lot of young people are frustrated, like buying a house, like dream on buddy, it's not going to happen right now. You know, getting a new car is as expensive as rent was five, 10 years ago.

• 1:55:24Adam Sosnick?

  Food, eggs, prices are crazy. Healthcare, now they're supporting Luigi Mangione because he's anti-insurance conglomerates and all that. So if you can fix affordability in America, you can fix America. You know, the whole American dream is the land of opportunity, land to be where you want to be, land to do what you want to do. It doesn't feel like that for a lot of people because they can't afford those things. So in my opinion, this is all sort of downstream of Trump trying, Trump trying to make quote unquote, "America affordable" again. That's what's needed. The most ironic part is that the least affordable cities in America are all big blue cities. New York City, this is why they elected Mom Donnie, as if he's going to solve it, not going to happen.

• 1:56:07Adam Sosnick?

  LA, San Francisco, Boston, DC, all these big blue cities are completely unaffordable. So this is why, don't be shocked when you hear this term affordability come up over and over and over again, because that's what Trump is focused on, number one issue in America.

• 1:56:23Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so I want to go to this next story. The next story I want to get to is this British broadcaster, okay, is having this conversation, this guy named Ben Leo, who I didn't learn about till this weekend. He does a great job. He's talking to a pro-trans GP. And while they're going back and forth, Ben is talking about what happened with his oldest son. And I want you to watch this exchange. And remember, this is happening where, Rob? This is in Britain, right? GP, Great Britain, UK. So he is not necessarily the safest to be able to speak like this because it's pretty controversial there. It's very different than America and UK right now. But watch how he handles this whole thing. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:57:07Speaker 25

  Two-year-old son came up to me the other day, I went back home to the UK, and he said, Daddy, I'm going to have a baby. And I said, Zach, you can't have a baby because you're a boy, you're a man, you can't have babies. And he said, well, I'm going to be a girl, I want to be a girl. What would you have said to him if you were me?

• 1:57:25Speaker 11

  Well, I wouldn't have said, Zach, you're a boy and boys can't have babies, because that's absolutely not true. So, I mean, I don't know what your parenting is like.

• 1:57:33Speaker 25

  And you don't think boys, you think boys can have babies?

• 1:57:36Speaker 11

  You mean males?

• 1:57:37Speaker 25

  Yes.

• 1:57:37Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 1:57:38Speaker 25

  You think males, sorry, you think males can have babies?

• 1:57:41Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 1:57:41Speaker 25

  Right.

• 1:57:42Speaker 11

  I mean, do I have to explain?

• 1:57:43Speaker 25

  Right.

• 1:57:44Speaker 11

  Transgender males have a womb, a uterus, and ovaries.

• 1:57:49Speaker 25

  Jeez, man.

• 1:57:49Speaker 11

  Okay, so they were born, if you like, female, but they actually identify as males, so we refer to them as males. They have ovaries, a womb, a uterus, a vagina, and that means you can carry a baby.

• 1:58:01Speaker 25

  Transgender males being women?

• 1:58:04Speaker 11

  Well, that's extremely disrespectful to transgender males.

• 1:58:07Speaker 25

  Well, they are women, aren't they? They're biological women.

• 1:58:10Speaker 11

  They are males.

• 1:58:11Speaker 25

  Well, if they're males...

• 1:58:13Speaker 11

  What do you mean by biological women?

• 1:58:14Speaker 25

  Oh, hang on a minute, if they're males, why do you call them transgender males? Why put transgender in the...

• 1:58:19Speaker 11

  Transgender is an adjective.

• 1:58:21Speaker 25

  Right, but if they're, just call them males then, why do you call them transgender males?

• 1:58:23Speaker 11

  No problem at all.

• 1:58:24Speaker 25

  So you're changing that now?

• 1:58:25Speaker 11

  No, I'm not changing that, you said, can males have babies? And I said, yes, males can have babies.

• 1:58:29Speaker 25

  All over your website, you refer to transgender women, transgender males. If these people are genuinely male and female, why do you call them transgender?

• 1:58:37Speaker 11

  Well, why do we use adjectives for anything? If you're clarifying, if you're teaching somebody, like I'm teaching you now, you need to clarify, and there you go.

• 1:58:45Speaker 25

  So, instead of, so this is interesting, so instead of telling my two-year-old son, as I did, Zach, you can't have kids, you're a boy.

• 1:58:53Speaker 11

  I think that's sad.

• 1:58:54Speaker 25

  You think that's sad?

• 1:58:55Speaker 11

  I do, I think, you know, if my son...

• 1:58:57Speaker 25

  Do you know what it did? He said, oh, okay Daddy, that's fine, and the next day, he said, Daddy, I'm Spider-Man. Would you want me to entertain that conversation, say, well, Zach, maybe you are Spider-Man?

• 1:59:06Speaker 11

  What do you say, oh God, no, not Spider-Man, oh God, Zach, you can't be a girl, oh God, Zach, you can't be Spider-Man? Or can't we just let children explore? Two years, amazing age to explore, why aren't we letting our children explore?

• 1:59:15Speaker 25

  Keep this woman away from any child ever.

• 1:59:17Speaker 11

  I actually feel sorry for Zach right now.

• 1:59:18Speaker 25

  Oh, well, sorry. Okay. Well, I don't because Zach has never mentioned becoming a girl again. My two-year-old.

• 1:59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So watch this, Rob. Can you pause and let's just go through comments section? And let's see what the world thinks about this, right? Go a little bit lower. How is this even a real conversation? Young children, toddlers need a secure, stable foundation of identity before they can even begin to understand a broader spectrum of gender or sexuality. Any other conversation is just too far complex. Daddy, I want to jump off a cliff. Sure, Zach. Go ahead and explore whatever they want to be free. More of Zach's dad, please, Lord. Thank you. Bravo for young and smart Ben. She says, I don't know what your parenting style is, as if she isn't 65 years old and didn't grow up with traditional values. While Western is busy having those debates, China is inventing 7G.

• 2:00:04Adam Sosnick?

  No kidding.

• 2:00:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Zach's dad here is doing his best to guide Zach one way, but Zach would still mix up with kids with parents like this lady. This lady really needs serious help. I feel sorry for you, not Zach. Ben Leo, round of applause. Go a little bit lower. Is that it? That's his name, Ben Leo? Yeah, Ben Leo. So anyways.

• 2:00:22Adam Sosnick?

  And what's her name, by the way? Let's give her a shout out.

• 2:00:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Go up a little bit. Go to her account, just to see who she is. Dr. Helen. I went to her account yesterday. Dr. Helen.

• 2:00:31Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, she's a doctor. Yeah, of course she is. By the way, she married, kids, family. What's her story? Is she trans?

• 2:00:38Speaker 23

  She's married to Mike Weberly.

• 2:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Do they have kids?

• 2:00:44Adam Sosnick?

  But while we're searching for this.

• 2:00:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Is she a man or she a guy? Is she like?

• 2:00:48Adam Sosnick?

  Well, who knows? It doesn't matter, Pat. It's just an adjective. It doesn't matter who she, we, they.

• 2:00:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. Was she born a man or a woman?

• 2:00:55Adam Sosnick?

  We don't know, Pat, and it doesn't matter. She's a pioneer.

• 2:00:58Patrick Bet-David?

  She's what is it? What is it? I'm not judging. I'm just saying she's pretty big. So you know what I'm saying?

• 2:01:02Adam Sosnick?

  First man land, go black. What are those things on her chest?

• 2:01:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, now these are $7,000.

• 2:01:08Adam Sosnick?

  Doesn't even matter at this point. That's right. Those are seven grand each. Pioneer in the field of hormone therapy.

• 2:01:13Speaker 05

  Oh, no. Guys, her business is giving drugs to underage.

• 2:01:18Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, so she makes money being this foolish. She's a pioneer in hormone therapy and transgender healthcare.

• 2:01:25Speaker 05

  When I say this.

• 2:01:26Adam Sosnick?

  Interesting. So follow the money on Helen.

• 2:01:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go to more about Helen. Go more about Helen.

• 2:01:31Adam Sosnick?

  She's going to Helen. I'll tell you that much.

• 2:01:33Patrick Bet-David?

  First man landed on the moon and Helen Peters. Became screaming into the world. That's when she was born. Oh my god, like be more dramatic.

• 2:01:43Tom Ellsworth?

  She came out of a birthing canal.

• 2:01:44Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of fights and a lot of shouting. Okay. I wonder when she was born, a man or a woman? She loved me and I loved her. Parents got divorced, I was heartbroken, you will never see your father again, I can see his face through the car.

• 2:01:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Where did she fall and hit her head?

• 2:01:57Patrick Bet-David?

  My mother married a lodger.

• 2:01:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Where did she hit her head?

• 2:01:59Patrick Bet-David?

  My father and moved into the top floor spare room, but then he moved out with my mom. My new baby sister was born. I held her, I loved her, you have to call mom daddy now. Baby sister, why would she misgender her sister like that? I went to very tough comprehensive school, I didn't fit in, I was the one, okay? My mother was born in a little nightmare.

• 2:02:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I cannot believe somebody screams this. So she's going down this year by year of her life? Well, she just wants. Can we just see when she absolutely broke her brain at what point?

• 2:02:26Tom Ellsworth?

  But, but, by the way, this is a tragedy. She's describing completely broken home, divorce, abandonment, and poor parenting. And so what does she do when she grows up? To be a psychologist, to tell everybody else that they're okay and that everything broken is not broken, it's to be accepted. Rather than finding love, stability, and structure back in normalcy, she, she goes here. So, you know what? Hurt people make hurt people. Broken people break people.

• 2:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Great point, Tom.

• 2:02:58Speaker 05

  What happened, Rob? Yes, her own public statement, she was assigned male at birth. And later transitioned, she identifies as a tr- what?

• 2:03:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, of course. What, I don't know what this means, though.

• 2:03:08Speaker 23

  According to Dr. Weberly, in previous interviews, somewhere along the line, she confirms that she was born as a male.

• 2:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it makes sense.

• 2:03:18Speaker 23

  A man, and then she transitioned to a woman, and then married Mike Weberly.

• 2:03:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you serious?

• 2:03:24Speaker 23

  This according what ChatGPT and the internet is reciting to me, so.

• 2:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So I was, I was right.

• 2:03:29Speaker 23

  It seems to be that way, yeah.

• 2:03:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Allegedly, probably.

• 2:03:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I told you, because her shoulders, she looked like a.

• 2:03:33Tom Ellsworth?

  She looks like a fullback.

• 2:03:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Linebacker, bro, have a little respect.

• 2:03:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Dear God, where's my bong?

• 2:03:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that a guy? I don't, I can't, I'm so, I'm so confused right now. Yeah, well, listen. We all are. By the way, by the way, all, all the jokes aside. I don't know, I'm not. This, this dude, this guy, lived a rough life as a kid growing up. And he wasn't accepted. And he was so confused that he went through it.

• 2:04:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is a life now. He lives. You know, when you, when you hear some people, they become who they become. And, and then you learn about him, you realize there's, trauma is a real thing. This morning, I'm driving in, in the car with uh, my guy. And, uh, he was a former Delta, 18 Delta guy. I said, so what do you think about PTSD? And he kind of went through it. Cause he thinks it's a real thing. He says, well, he says, there, there comes a time when you get out and he's seen a lot of stuff. You know, he's seen a lot of stuff. Poor Henry had nightmares for two weeks.

• 2:04:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways, so he's seen a lot of stuff. And he's telling me about PTSD. He says, there comes a time in life where you realize everyone's moved on and they got their own set of problems. And you gotta kind of figure out a way to fix it. Or else you're gonna pass down that same fears and trauma to the next generation. He's doing that. We had a, a conversation about Adam's girl. What's his, what's her name? Uh, Chelsea Handler, right?

• 2:04:58Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:04:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And you, you, you hear, you hear Chelsea Handler's story. And you hear the story of her upbringing. You remember her story?

• 2:05:07Adam Sosnick?

  Her brother.

• 2:05:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Her brother said, hey, can't wait to come back and see you and all this stuff. And then falls down and dies.

• 2:05:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:14Patrick Bet-David?

  From a cliff. And from that day on, it broke the entire family. Mom and dad couldn't do anything together. And it was a mess. Why do you think she probably doesn't want to get married and have kids? Are you kidding me? The fear of losing people that you love can do a number on you. So as much as we're having a hard time with this guy that we're, you know, you know, what's, whatever this guy is. According to Chad, you're born a guy and now a girl, and he married a Mike. He, this guy's probably gone through a lot of trauma. And he's thinking this is the right way of passing it now to the next people. But good for Ben. Hey, we wish Zach nothing but the best. Ben, keep raising Zach the way you're raising him. He's gonna be a, uh, he's gonna be a stud in the future the way he's going right now.

• 2:05:54Adam Sosnick?

  Can I say one thing?

• 2:05:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:56Adam Sosnick?

  So the, the, the challenges, and Rob, I sent you some of the challenges. We can't even agree in America and even in Western world, what's true and what's not true. This whole debate of, well, it's my truth. It's my truth. There's something called the truth. Here's the biggest challenge that we're gonna do with it. Less than 20% of Americans, so let's extrapolate this, could agree on basic facts. 18%, basic stuff. 80% completely disagree on the policy and facts combined. So we're operating in completely different realities. So this. He, she, lady, lit transgender doctor person. She believes that she's right. She firmly believes that men can have babies. This is her straight up belief.

• 2:06:41Adam Sosnick?

  And you try to tell her otherwise, she looks at you like, you're the crazy person if you tell your baby, two-year-old boy, that he can have, he can't have a kid. She looks at you like you're the insane one. So unless we can get back to just like a normal sensible conversation around what actual facts are, not alternative facts, not truthiness, the truth, and stop playing in this misinformation, disinformation hellhole, how are we ever gonna agree again? She's claiming that a two-year-old boy can someday have a baby. And we're treating that like a normal discussion, as if it's an argument worth debating.

• 2:07:17Speaker 05

  But you know what, this LGBTQ community, they can't have kids. So you know what? They want your kids. That's how they multiply. They, she, if that's a guy, he's not having babies. So you know what? He wants your kids. He wants Pat's. They want everybody Rob's kids, cuz they can't have children. So how do you make the LGBTQ community bigger? I want your kids transition. I want your kids, you're gay, you're gay, you're gay. You're all gay. Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay.

• 2:07:44Adam Sosnick?

  And then they'll take one or two examples of some dude that somehow became a woman and somehow got her uterus tied or whatever.

• 2:07:50Speaker 05

  Who's there, you're gay.

• 2:07:51Adam Sosnick?

  And then had a baby. It's like, oh, we can all have babies now. Dude, I hate to break it to you, there's five dudes in this room right now. None of us are having babies.

• 2:07:58Speaker 05

  Leave Rob out of this.

• 2:07:59Adam Sosnick?

  And it's not debatable.

• 2:08:00Speaker 05

  Yet she wants to have that debate. It's so ridiculous.

• 2:08:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got out of your system.

• 2:08:06Speaker 05

  Thank you, sir.

• 2:08:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You're good?

• 2:08:07Speaker 05

  Anyway, I'm doing, I'm doing six to nine months, guys.

• 2:08:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, pick one story. One last story. If you got really fireworks, what's the last story you wanna get into? Tom, Adam, Vinny, pick one last story.

• 2:08:20Speaker 05

  Where are we at here, guys?

• 2:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I got Marilyn Monroe, James Patterson. I got Erica Kirk. I got CEOs predict massive expansion in Florida. I got UK 1984. I got.

• 2:08:36Adam Sosnick?

  What happened with Erica Kirk?

• 2:08:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That's your story.

• 2:08:39Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 2:08:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You want me to go through it or no?

• 2:08:41Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 2:08:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Erica Kirk received $350,000. Is this a, Rob, is this a proper person who wrote this story? Like, is Economic Times?

• 2:08:51Adam Sosnick?

  Economic Times, they're pretty reputable.

• 2:08:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Erica received $350,000 weeks before husband's Charlie Kirk assassination. Bizarre claim surfaces online. Let's see what this is about. Page 22.

• 2:09:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go here.

• 2:09:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Charlie Kirk's founder turned September 2025, leaving behind his wife Erica, two young children, most devastated, and host of devastated fans. And a month after Charlie Kirk was shot dead at Apple Utah Valley, multiple conspiracy theories surrounding Kirk is doing rounds on social media with no signs of slowing down. The latest theory concerns an alleged money transfer receiving by Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, currency OTP USA claiming $350,000 was transferred to an account linked to weeks before Charlie's death, insinuating that the payments was linked to Kirk's killing. Okay, Adam, thoughts on this story?

• 2:09:41Adam Sosnick?

  Look, it'd be so easy to just jump on the Economic Times and just call them some leftist shell rag accusing Erica Kirk of accepting $350,000 for the murder of her husband. The challenge is, though, Economic Times is actually a center-right, reputable financial outlet. So this is the problem with clickbait and headlines. Erica Kirk receives $350,000 weeks before Charlie Kirk's assassination. Bizarre claim. And then the article goes on to basically say, "Listen, this is all part of unfounded conspiracies. No credible reports whatsoever. No quote-unquote receipts to be found, other than this allegation here." This is the problem here. I don't know if we've been in a situation

• 2:10:25Adam Sosnick?

  where the widow of a famous person has been under more scrutiny than Erica Kirk. And some is self-inflicted, some is completely unfounded. But imagine being Erica Kirk right now, and genuinely, genuinely, generally, let's just use first principles here. Loved her husband, loves her kids, stands for what she says, and then the world attacks her for... Crying in a different manner than they would like, wearing certain outfits that maybe inappropriate, maybe doing certain things that, you know, you don't agree with, and I get that, everything could be in question at this point, everything, but to insinuate something this absurd, that Erica Kirk would do something this salacious, this disgusting,

• 2:11:10Adam Sosnick?

  for $350,000, as if that's some sort of life-changing money. There's no amount of money that I, in my opinion, it would take to bring back her husband, or to bring back what she, all the work they've done. So to me, this is a horrible headline from a reputable news outlet, and this is what they deserve. Benny?

• 2:11:29Speaker 05

  Um, well, I didn't, I didn't do enough, I didn't do any research, I just heard it in passing.

• 2:11:33Adam Sosnick?

  What is this right here, though? Sorry, it's got you off? What is this? Massive life insur-

• 2:11:37Speaker 05

  This girl did a-

• 2:11:38Adam Sosnick?

  How much life insurance policy did Charlie Kirk have?

• 2:11:40Speaker 23

  Well, this is the, uh, uh, content creator that did a deep dive onto this topic.

• 2:11:45Adam Sosnick?

  This is about life insurance?

• 2:11:47Speaker 23

  It is.

• 2:11:48Adam Sosnick?

  Does it say that the amount?

• 2:11:49Speaker 23

  Uh, I'm not sure.

• 2:11:50Adam Sosnick?

  I guarantee you it's millions.

• 2:11:51Speaker 26

  An auditor named Brian Ferentz went through all of TPUSA's tax documents and found that in just 2023, a large life insurance policy was taken out on Charlie Kirk. As you can see here, GGLF LLC paid for a split-dollar life insurance policy for the president/CEO of Turning Point USA, aka Charlie Kirk. Annual premiums for this policy are massive, $350,000 per year.

• 2:12:26Adam Sosnick?

  Where's she going with this?

• 2:12:27Speaker 26

  Meaning that the death benefit for someone who is 31 years old and a non-smoker would be between $20 and $50 million.

• 2:12:36Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:37Speaker 26

  All of this information is public because TPUSA is a registered 501(c)(3) nonprofit, so you can go ahead and look up this information for yourself. GGLF 2023 LLC is also owned by Charlie Kirk, so why would he have one business paying one of his other businesses for his own life insurance policy? Because it's a- Common tax strategy for high net worth individuals that comes with massive write offs and deductions. Making sure that the beneficiary would not have to pay a massive estate tax of up to forty percent. Meaning on a ten million dollar death benefit policy, that could trigger a four million dollar tax bill.

• 2:13:19Speaker 26

  Remember, in this case, the payout is supposed to be a lot bigger than that. The timing of taking out such a large policy so close to the date he was executed.

• 2:13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  She said twenty twenty three.

• 2:13:31Speaker 26

  Is interesting, considering this was far past the time that he had nationally broken out and become a huge public figure with TPUSA. It could, of course, be because he got married and had two children and wanted to make sure that they were protected in case anything happened. But that's making an assumption that we know who received this money, even though this tax information is.

• 2:13:56Patrick Bet-David?

  This is.

• 2:13:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 2:13:59Adam Sosnick?

  My brain hurts.

• 2:14:00Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way. No, this is very normal.

• 2:14:03Adam Sosnick?

  This is so normal. This is exactly how life insurance works.

• 2:14:05Patrick Bet-David?

  State planning works this way.

• 2:14:07Adam Sosnick?

  This is exactly how it works. She's making it seem salacious. You take out a policy, you get as big as a death benefit as you possibly can. For the, for the limited amount of premium of whatever you want to pay. How much did she say the, the estimated premium was a year?

• 2:14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Premium's three fifty, three fifty is between twenty to fifty million dollars.

• 2:14:22Adam Sosnick?

  For a thirty year old, healthy guy, he's twenty eight when he takes it out, you're talking minimum twenty five, fifty million policy. This is totally normal, totally normal. And by the way, if she took it out and you get a date in twenty twenty three. I could not find. Okay, so let's say it was. January of twenty twenty three, that is before the, the CNS period, the suicide and death penalty period. So meaning it's, that's two years later, meaning there's zero, zero illicit activity going on here. This is exactly how life insurance works. Did she call it a key man policy or a split dollar? Whatever she called it.

• 2:14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, when I bought.

• 2:14:54Adam Sosnick?

  Part for the course.

• 2:14:55Patrick Bet-David?

  This, this is, and by the way, on the business side, this is very, very normal. When I got ten million dollars and I raised money the first time, they immediately said, we gotta get a ten million dollar key man insurance policy on you. Not because they're trying to kill me, but because if I do something stupid and I die, they get their ten million dollars back and a company paid for the premium. And today. Uh, we have a lot of insurance, probably not even enough. I need more insurance on myself. If something happens and a family's gotta pay state taxes, any of that stuff, that covers the taxes. So I'm not putting anything here.

• 2:15:25Adam Sosnick?

  Rob, I'm very appreciative that you showed that video. I didn't know that video. By the way, this, it, it, it's sort of just like proves my point. Three hundred and fifty thousand dollars is nothing. They're talking fifty million dollars of life insurance potentially. This is my whole point, is that it's irrelevant. Yeah, but people see that video, I know. But people see this video? They don't know how life insurance works.

• 2:15:45Patrick Bet-David?

  To the average person, to the average person, that is like a, oh my god.

• 2:15:50Adam Sosnick?

  Money? Three hu- yeah, could it automatically?

• 2:15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  We sold eight hundred thousand insurance policies, and we saw a bunch of different things, and we saw the weird things as well. Trust me, we saw the weird things as well, but this is very normal.

• 2:16:01Adam Sosnick?

  It's the financial equivalent of saying, "Yeah, so every year, yeah, I max out my 401K, I put twenty-three thousand dollars in there, and then every year, it's invested in the S and P 500, and it compounds by ten percent year over year, and then I, twenty-five years later, I have a million dollars." Yeah, that's how that works. But if you say it in that tone, or in these insinuations, it makes it illegal.

• 2:16:23Patrick Bet-David?

  If you put twenty-three thousand dollars a year, and twenty-five years later, at ten percent, you only have a million dollars, you got robbed.

• 2:16:29Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you, sir. There's a problem. Point is an example.

• 2:16:31Patrick Bet-David?

  We just realized Adam also doesn't like math.

• 2:16:35Adam Sosnick?

  The point is, it's a lot more than you would suspect.

• 2:16:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, last day, Cyber Monday. Go to VTmerch.com, Rob, and go to hats. Guys, I wanna do something. I want you to really test this out for yourself. Go to VTmerch.com. Go to VTmerch.com, go to VTmerch.com. And can you go to hats? Okay, can you go to hats, right there? Pick a Future Looks Bright hat, okay? Go, go up top, Rob, go up top, Rob, go up top, go to, nah, not the shoes. Okay, it's, just go a little bit lower. Uh, is there a Future Looks Bright collection, Rob? If you go to Future Looks Bright Collection... Get one of these shirts for anybody that doesn't follow the podcast. Just get them a gift like this and just see their reaction. Get one of those Future Looks Bright hats, Future Looks Bright shirts. Give it to a bunch of people this Christmas and just see how they react.

• 2:17:21Patrick Bet-David?

  They're like, oh, cool. Who was that? It's a nice brand. Is this Nike? Is it Under Armour? Is it this? No, it's just a brand called Future Looks Bright. Wow, I like wearing this. I like the shirt. I like the hat. Make someone's day during Christmas and get them an F L B shirt or a hat. Thirty to seventy percent off. Again, thirty to, if you like to save money, this is the last day to do it. Go to Future Looks Bright and you get those stickers as well when you order nowadays. The Future Looks Bright sticker. Anyways, God bless everybody. We'll do it again on Wednesday. Peace out. Bye bye.

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