Pod Insights The Big Picture The 2010 Mega-Movie Re-Draft About this episode We’re drafting again! Sean and Amanda are joined by Ringer all-stars Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, Van Lathan, Joanna Robinson, and Rob Mahoney to draft their favorite movies from the year 2010.
(0:00) Intro
(0:17) The state of movies (and us) in 2010
(24:03) The 2010 Mega-Movie Re-Draft
(2:40:50) Honorable mentions and draft recap
Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins
Guests: Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, Van Lathan, Joanna Robinson, and Rob Mahoney
Producer: Jack Sanders
Production Support: Lucas Cavanagh, Jacob Cornett, and Jamie Yukich
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2:03 Sean Fennessey? I'm Sean Fennessey.
2:04 Amanda Dobbins? I'm Amanda Dobbins.
2:05 Sean Fennessey? And this is the big, picturesque conversation show about 2010 again. That's right. It's our first ever redraft. So CR is here. He's always here drafting.
2:14 Speaker 03 We've done this draft before.
2:15 Sean Fennessey? We have done this draft.
2:16 Speaker 03 Just us?
2:16 Sean Fennessey? Just the three of us.
2:17 Amanda Dobbins? It was the first one.
2:18 Sean Fennessey? It was the first ever draft, which was conceived, created and executed amidst the COVID-19 pandemic. And the three of us did a very good job. That's a very weird podcast when you go back and listen because we're like, oh, hey, good choice.
2:34 Sean Fennessey? Terrific job by you.
2:35 Speaker 03 The drafts were where our sense of hostility.
2:38 Amanda Dobbins? No, that was Deacon's Hall of Fame.
2:39 Speaker 03 Oh, okay.
2:40 Amanda Dobbins? But, but then we were banished to our separate screens for the COVID-19 pandemic. And we were kind to each other for like three to four months. And then you drafted Iron Man 3 and the gloves came off.
2:52 Sean Fennessey? That's true. Um, every June, we bring together a sacred quartet of contributors to the draft. This is the third consecutive June. Uh, I'm really happy Van Lathan is here.
3:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:04 Sean Fennessey? Mallory Rubin is here. Joanna Robinson is here. Rob Mahoney is here. Four of the most elite podcasters that work at The Ringer in the office today.
3:14 Sean Fennessey? And 2010, you guys were not a part of 2010. Rob, why don't we start with you?
3:19 Speaker 03 Okay.
3:19 Sean Fennessey? Young buck that you are. 2010, what was going on? What was cooking for you? Who were you?
3:25 Speaker 04 I was in college.
3:26 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
3:26 Speaker 04 Uh, I was playing a lot of basketball. I was blogging a lot of basketball. And I was going to see a lot of these movies at an Austin-based movie theater chain that we no longer talk about.
3:35 Speaker 03 Cause we were horns up.
3:36 Speaker 04 I mean, we're always horns up.
3:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:38 Sean Fennessey? Okay. So you were, you were an Alamo attendee on the reg.
3:42 Speaker 04 Back when that used to be an okay thing. Back when that was something I was proud of.
3:45 Sean Fennessey? You were basket blogging in college?
3:47 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. Well, that's how you do it.
3:49 Sean Fennessey? What was the?
3:50 Speaker 04 On your parents' dime while they're paying for school. Parlay it into a blogging job post-graduation.
3:55 Speaker 03 Was that Mavs stuff?
3:56 Speaker 04 Like general NBA back then? Yeah. It's kind of all over the place. I was league, I was a junior in college with League Pass. That was a normal thing to do.
4:03 Amanda Dobbins? How much did it cost then?
4:05 Speaker 04 Honestly, a reasonable amount.
4:06 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, yeah.
4:08 Speaker 04 It was like seventy dollars, eighty dollars.
4:09 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
4:10 Sean Fennessey? That's good. Affordable. Um, Joanna, 2010, what was cooking with you?
4:14 Speaker 05 I was living in San Francisco, looking at the list of movies that we have here today. I think I was deep in my, um, art house cinema only phase. So, uh, I had to catch up on some of these big blockbusters we're here to talk about today. A real franchise year that I was not involved in in 2010.
4:31 Sean Fennessey? Interesting. And look at how the world turned on you.
4:34 Speaker 05 Yeah.
4:34 Sean Fennessey? Or turned you into a franchise queen.
4:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, you hate art now.
4:37 Speaker 05 Yeah, I do hate art.
4:38 Sean Fennessey? Uh, Van, 2010?
4:40 Speaker 06 Unemployed.
4:43 Speaker 06 I had been in Los Angeles. I got to LA in 2006. I worked at this place for a couple of years, couple of three years or something like that. And then it went under. And that was it. And so then I got on unemployment. This was during the times of the financial crisis. And we were all just riding out. I too was playing a lot of basketball.
5:03 Speaker 04 What's the scout? What were you doing?
5:05 Speaker 06 Everything.
5:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:07 Sean Fennessey? Inside, outside.
5:08 Speaker 04 One, three, five?
5:08 Speaker 06 Three level scorer.
5:09 Speaker 04 Okay.
5:10 Speaker 06 Like three level scorer. And but like legitimately, we were hooping all day long.
5:16 Sean Fennessey? Against first graders, second graders and third graders?
5:18 Speaker 06 Whoever wanted it. Seventy-five and up.
5:21 Sean Fennessey? Seventy-five and up?
5:22 Speaker 06 Retirees. I was busting anybody ass that was out there. And then the next year was with the year my career was essentially started. I go to TMZ the next year. But at that point, unemployed, seeing all of these movies.
5:33 Speaker 05 Like a prequel.
5:33 Speaker 06 At the ArcLight.
5:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:35 Speaker 06 This is the year, the 2009, 2010, is the year that I fall in love with the ArcLight. Cause I started going to a lot of movies at the ArcLight. Walking gets nice.
5:46 Sean Fennessey? Six years gone, we are from the ArcLight. Really painful. Yeah.
5:49 Speaker 05 Inexplicable.
5:50 Sean Fennessey? And you guys just never got to be a part of that culture?
5:53 Speaker 05 I saw some things at the, at the Cinerama Dome in my time.
5:56 Speaker 04 I heard tell. You know, I was in a cave. My elders were telling me about it, you know, stories, the legends.
6:02 Sean Fennessey? Uh, okay, Mal, 2010?
6:04 Speaker 07 Uh, I was living in New York City. I was editing college football at Sports Illustrated. And I was seeing movies in the city, you know? You would like live in New York, you'd go to your job during the day, then you'd go to a bar or a movie after work.
6:18 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
6:18 Speaker 07 It was nice. Fun to live in the city for those five years.
6:21 Amanda Dobbins? What movie theaters were you?
6:23 Speaker 07 So the Time and Life Building, you know, Midtown Manhattan, so
6:30 Speaker 07 various locations, either like Lincoln Square, Times Square, not ideal.
6:34 Sean Fennessey? I was gonna say AMC Times Square.
6:35 Speaker 07 Yeah, convenient.
6:36 Speaker 03 Battery Park Girl?
6:38 Speaker 07 I moved to Battery Park City later.
6:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:40 Speaker 07 I was living in.
6:44 Sean Fennessey? Lady of the night.
6:46 Speaker 07 But I lived in Hell's Kitchen at that point, so I was like walk into work, that was just sort of the general vicinity, but you know.
6:52 Sean Fennessey? Like a young Matt Murdochs.
6:53 Speaker 05 Yeah, Matt Murdochs.
6:54 Speaker 07 Exactly, fighting crime at night, putting on my athleisure and going out to fight crime.
6:59 Sean Fennessey? Daredevil.
6:59 Speaker 05 Dare, I was gonna say Deadpool.
7:01 Speaker 07 I did not have a nice brick loft apartment.
7:04 Speaker 05 Like, remember?
7:06 Sean Fennessey? Not close.
7:07 Speaker 05 Well, I didn't have them there to be like, that's Daredevil, you know?
7:11 Sean Fennessey? You were going to the cinema regularly?
7:13 Speaker 07 Yeah, Adam and I were seeing movies at this point and we were watching a lot of movies at home and we would go to the movies uh, cause we've been, you know, together for an eternity because we're fucking ancient, so.
7:23 Sean Fennessey? Imagine how I feel. Uh, CR?
7:26 Speaker 03 Well, this is hard because I don't want to contradict what I said on the first one, you know?
7:30 Sean Fennessey? Oh, interesting. We have evidence.
7:32 Speaker 05 You're trying to go for consistency and continuity?
7:35 Speaker 03 I'll just say two truths and a lie. I worked at an advertising agency as a copywriter. I was still smoking.
7:45 Sean Fennessey? Those, I think, are truths.
7:46 Speaker 03 And I saw Tron Legacy in the theaters.
7:50 Speaker 07 I will tell you a large portion of that podcast, which I believe in total is like an hour and 14 minutes and I'd say 30 of those minutes are you shitting on Tron Legacy?
7:58 Speaker 03 Was it really? I have a lot more affection.
8:01 Speaker 05 By the way, can I just say, in the interest of like Mallory competitive drafter, on Friday.
8:06 Speaker 07 Very chill today.
8:06 Speaker 05 On Friday, we said no prep.
8:09 Speaker 07 Well, I made my spreadsheet, but I didn't really watch.
8:11 Speaker 05 You listened?
8:12 Speaker 07 You listened to the other episode?
8:15 Sean Fennessey? Why wouldn't you listen to the other stuff?
8:17 Speaker 05 You all listened to it?
8:18 Speaker 03 It's like you revealed your drafts.
8:21 Speaker 07 I'm not gonna be able to revisit all the films like I typically like to do. Like it was a, Rob and I were talking about this earlier. It's a great pleasure in 99 and 2000 to just say, you don't need the excuse to pop on Almost Famous, but if you have one, you're not gonna. Pass on it. If you have an excuse to watch Ripley, you're gonna do it. This year, it was a little challenging to do that, but I couldn't miss the opportunity to listen to the first draft you ever did. The podcast that birthed one of the defining series here at The Ringer. Come on. Also, it was structured completely differently. Like, the drafts were set. The rounds were set. Like, it was like round one drama. It was very different. It was very different.
8:58 Sean Fennessey? That is true.
8:58 Speaker 07 Yeah.
8:59 Speaker 03 And we were all just like, "Great job, Amanda."
9:01 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. I don't remember any of it. I don't remember what I picked. I didn't go and look back.
9:05 Sean Fennessey? I'm happy to recount that.
9:07 Amanda Dobbins? I, no, no, don't. Don't do it now. Let's, I'm gonna do it at the end. Yeah. So make sure it's at the bottom. Okay, I won't scroll. Because I'm curious how much, how much I've changed and how much I've stayed the same.
9:20 Sean Fennessey? Well, you're always changing.
9:21 Speaker 03 That's actually why we've all gathered here.
9:24 Sean Fennessey? This is an intervention.
9:27 Sean Fennessey? You've seen it in the intervention seat, actually.
9:29 Speaker 03 It's very hard for me to tell you this.
9:33 Sean Fennessey? Chris, you and I, we spent a lot of time together in 2010. We were really hanging, hanging pretty tough back then. Is this, this may have been the year we met? Eleven was the year we met.
9:42 Amanda Dobbins? 2011 is when we meet outside the, well, I met Zach, my husband, outside of the Lincoln Square AMC, speaking of. And then you guys at the Woolly? Is that right?
9:53 Sean Fennessey? Nope. I thought it was after The Avengers.
9:56 Amanda Dobbins? No, that is, no, that's the first movie that we saw, and that's where I met Andy Greenwald. But I knew you before that.
10:01 Speaker 06 Y'all been fucking with each other? Y'all all have been friends this long?
10:05 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but.
10:06 Speaker 06 I know you and him, but like.
10:08 Amanda Dobbins? Avengers is 2012.
10:10 Sean Fennessey? Right, right.
10:11 Speaker 03 I accompanied Zach to a Christmas party that she was at, where he was like, "I'm going to meet this girl Amanda."
10:18 Speaker 06 Ah.
10:18 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, at Botanica. It was the after-party of the New York Magazine.
10:22 Speaker 03 Good luck with that.
10:24 Speaker 06 Look at everyone that holds.
10:25 Sean Fennessey? Our minds are deteriorating.
10:27 Amanda Dobbins? So we didn't know each other in 2010.
10:29 Sean Fennessey? Okay. You think we would have gotten along?
10:32 Amanda Dobbins? I don't know.
10:32 Sean Fennessey? Why start now?
10:33 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
10:35 Sean Fennessey? In 2010, I was working at eMusic.com, which was a digital music retailer. It was an attempted iTunes competitor. And Scuttlebutt at eMusic when I was working there
10:52 Sean Fennessey? as a merchandising manager, which was basically an editorial job, just basically like writing reviews and putting together exciting collections of potential albums you could spend your money on was there's this company coming that is currently operating in Europe called Spotify. And we are fucked. That was the vibe when I was working at eMusic, because as soon as Spotify comes to America, it's curtains for eMusic. And everyone who was saying that was 100% right. And here we are in a Spotify-owned studio in 2026.
11:25 Speaker 06 I'm so cynical. Listen to you tell the story of the emerging behemoth Spotify. It just feels, it feels like you just did a little commercial there for the thing.
11:33 Sean Fennessey? Well, you know, I guess at least we get to be together. When I say 2010 movies, what springs to mind? I mean, I picked this year back then when we did it in 2020 just because it was 10 years later. That was the only reason that we started there. We were like, we have enough time to look back on this period of film and see what it means. It's not because it was a particularly great year, though it did have a couple of favorites from the show and some interesting movies to pull apart. But I don't, what do you think when you look at it, Rob?
11:59 Speaker 04 I think it's big, like before times energy. You know, I think the easy demarcation point is like the Marvel machine is not up and running yet. But also Fast Five hasn't happened. Jurassic World hasn't happened yet. Like, all the things that are going to take up all the oxygen in the room are just not existent at this point. So there's a lot of stuff. I don't know that it's all good.
12:20 Speaker 05 So you're saying it's a great time for little movies like Toy Story 3, Iron Man 2,
12:24 Speaker 04 But Iron Man 2 is not.
12:25 Speaker 05 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.
12:26 Speaker 06 Oh dude, we were going crazy.
12:28 Speaker 05 Is there on midnight?
12:29 Speaker 06 Iron Man 2, we were, we were going.
12:30 Amanda Dobbins? I saw Iron Man 2.
12:32 Speaker 06 I was there, but it's not the same.
12:34 Speaker 05 The Marvel machine was in effect.
12:35 Amanda Dobbins? Because what I needed is premium projection. Actually, shout out Cabal Hill Cinema's Eleven Forever.
12:43 Sean Fennessey? Well, you chuckled because you feel like we were already in slop town?
12:46 Speaker 05 No, I mean, he said the Marvel machine wasn't in effect, then Mallory and I just had like a...
12:51 Speaker 07 We just said, "Boyd", like, "Uh", you know? Mickey Rourke and Iron Man 2, mentally, to each other via telepathic link. Then we laughed into the microphones out loud. We did do that.
13:01 Speaker 05 Um, it's just, yeah, it's franchise city here in 2010. And, and actually, some of the worst, I think, that franchise cinema has to offer, so...
13:11 Speaker 03 We're gonna be celebrating that too.
13:13 Speaker 05 There's a lot of other movies.
13:15 Speaker 06 It was an odd year.
13:16 Speaker 05 There's a lot of other fantastic movies, but I think the top, I would not say these stand the test of time.
13:22 Speaker 06 It was an odd year also because it was like, it's like, kind of transitional time. Like, there are new people barking up the tree. Like, I was all about Nolan at this point. I thought Nolan was the greatest fucking guy, like, ever.
13:34 Speaker 05 Did he have a movie this year?
13:35 Speaker 06 Yeah. Really, like, yeah, I was about to say, did I remember the wrong year? But like, I just also remember having hopes for films and then just being dramatically let down by some of the, by some of the, like, the... Like, watching Tim Burton make an uninteresting movie was, like, crazy to me with, with, with that many resources and stuff like that.
13:57 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
13:57 Speaker 03 Did movie Twitter exist back at this point? Were you on it?
14:01 Sean Fennessey? I was on Twitter.
14:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, Twitter was good back then.
14:03 Sean Fennessey? Joined Twitter in 2009, and that's when you could frequently send out a tweet that was just like, "Just had a burrito. Shit was fire." That was considered a good tweet. It was like, "Good job."
14:11 Speaker 03 You still could.
14:12 Speaker 05 Retweet.
14:13 Sean Fennessey? You're good. Thank you, yeah.
14:14 Speaker 03 Why don't you take it back?
14:15 Sean Fennessey? My friends banging that like button. Uh, you want, you want to go back to that time?
14:18 Speaker 03 I want you to take it back.
14:19 Speaker 07 That's what he's doing on Threads.
14:21 Sean Fennessey? I'm not really on Threads anymore. No, I, I don't think we can ever go back, unfortunately. Because immediately when you do that, it's just like, AI CR in a Nazi's costume, like, saluting a bag of Cheez-Its.
14:32 Speaker 05 Me CR? Oh my god.
14:34 Sean Fennessey? Like, all the replies are...
14:36 Speaker 05 AI Nazi CR is like a real speed skating Hitler from SNL, sort of like, character.
14:41 Sean Fennessey? Think of that.
14:42 Speaker 05 AI Nazi CR.
14:43 Sean Fennessey? You in a Nazi costume saluting a bag of Cheez-Its.
14:47 Speaker 03 Am I on the Friedland Pod right now?
14:50 Sean Fennessey? You have any big 2010 thoughts, movie-wise, Amanda?
14:54 Speaker 05 Oh, me. Um, you know, not off the top of my head, and I don't want to spoil my draft prep, but when I was trying to, you know, the essential, "What will your first pick be? If you get the first pick, what are you gonna do?"
15:08 Amanda Dobbins? One movie, I remembered as a 2010 movie, and then I read the list and I was like, oh, actually, probably I should choose this other one. Uh, so it doesn't stand out as like a hallowed year where I was like going to the cinema. 2009, honestly, is a lot more memorable. I remember the specific places and the specific theaters where I saw all of these movies. And I think there was just a better mix of, you know, non-franchise stuff. I mean, that's Inglourious Basterds, that's-
15:37 Speaker 07 You're a big Avatar head, so.
15:38 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I remember, I went to see Avatar in a blizzard at, uh, the now departed Brooklyn Heights, uh, you know, the Court Street. Was that a Regal?
15:49 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I'll never forget where I saw Avatar. AMC, Lincoln Square.
15:52 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
15:53 Sean Fennessey? IMAX screen, and I-
15:55 Speaker 07 New life for Shane.
15:55 Amanda Dobbins? New forever.
15:56 Sean Fennessey? Just like one of the greatest movie theater experiences ever. I loved it.
15:59 Amanda Dobbins? You get it.
15:59 Sean Fennessey? Chris never seen it.
16:00 Speaker 07 You can't be me.
16:00 Speaker 03 I definitely didn't see it in a theater. I saw it like 20 minutes ago on a plane.
16:04 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
16:05 Speaker 07 That sounds right.
16:07 Sean Fennessey? That's, well, that's, I think that's actually useful to this conversation, because, you know, Avatar made a shitload of money in 2010.
16:13 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
16:13 Sean Fennessey? You know, it was like, it was such a carryover movie.
16:15 Amanda Dobbins? I think I might have seen it, like a blizzard hit in January, and I was like, okay, I guess I'll go. Like, do this on like a day two. Yeah, or it was even still in theaters. But, so I guess there's not a defining narrative of 2010, except for the Oscars narrative of they picked the wrong one.
16:31 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. You've got a couple of things kind of winding down.
16:34 Amanda Dobbins? Exactly.
16:34 Sean Fennessey? A couple of things kind of like trying to squeeze out some, some life, you know? You got Shrek 4 and Toy Story 3.
16:43 Speaker 03 I just remember this period-
16:44 Sean Fennessey? Harry Potter's Near the End.
16:45 Speaker 03 More than any movie, I mean, I had one of my, like, favorite movie-going experiences of my life was going to see Inception with Zach.
16:52 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, yeah, at the-
16:53 Speaker 03 This year.
16:54 Amanda Dobbins? Prospect Park one, right?
16:55 Speaker 03 We both walked out, we were like, fuck, what can we do with our minds that we're not doing?
17:00 Sean Fennessey? I think you're thinking of Limitless.
17:02 Speaker 03 But, uh, it's number 16. The, uh, the thing I remember when I went through this list was not only just the movies that came out, but the specificity of how I was receiving films, which was, I think, almost entirely as a theater-going experience. Yeah. So the streaming services had yet to really ramp up yet. You could get the red letter Netflix movies, but you had to be an active participant in like getting and sending them back and everything. Um, I think I had like an Ingmar Bergman movie for three years.
17:33 Speaker 07 I was gonna say, there are two movies on this list that I definitely had those envelopes for like six months.
17:37 Sean Fennessey? Did you ever watch them?
17:39 Speaker 07 No.
17:41 Speaker 03 And then, you know, I just, home media or, or physical media was not a reality for me yet. So it was really like my film going experience was all theater, which is kind of an interesting little snapshot until the moment before.
17:52 Speaker 07 Yeah.
17:53 Sean Fennessey? Any other stray thoughts before we describe our categories and get a draft order?
17:58 Speaker 07 I think the Oscar note that Amanda already made obviously feels like very present in the year, but I am curious to see if in the flow of the draft, in part just because there are so many picks, it's seven drafters and seven rounds. If we'll be in a position where like a lot of the films that were like, you fucked social network, how dare you at the time, are actually now in a like, this movie's actually pretty good.
18:20 Amanda Dobbins? So you're just trying to lay the groundwork for when you draft your beloved Colin Firth in the King's Speech.
18:25 Speaker 07 It's always a Colin Firth thought for me. One of my favorite Ringer memories genuinely, I, did this air? I don't even know, probably. When we were first doing hottest take at Sunset Hour and we did a King's Speech episode. And I just remember you looking at me across the table in, uh, uh, the podcast studio one in the courtyard and saying, you can't say a movie's good just because you want to fuck the lead.
18:48 Amanda Dobbins? And nothing has changed all this time later.
18:50 Speaker 03 You can make a whole career out of it.
18:51 Speaker 07 You can make a whole career.
18:52 Amanda Dobbins? Here we are, folks.
18:53 Speaker 07 You can become a beloved media figure doing just that.
18:57 Amanda Dobbins? It's still the best Tom Hooper movie I've ever seen.
19:00 Speaker 07 Well, the bar's in hell.
19:01 Amanda Dobbins? Amanda's first round pick.
19:02 Speaker 07 There you go.
19:02 Sean Fennessey? What's the soccer movie he made?
19:04 Amanda Dobbins? Damned United.
19:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
19:05 Speaker 07 Oh, I like that movie.
19:07 Amanda Dobbins? You haven't seen Les Mis?
19:09 Sean Fennessey? I haven't seen Les Mis, no.
19:10 Speaker 07 Oh, Damned United.
19:11 Sean Fennessey? Still working up to it.
19:12 Amanda Dobbins? Not good.
19:13 Sean Fennessey? I feel like I need to get more cinema history under my belt before I.
19:17 Speaker 07 I've always said that about you.
19:18 Sean Fennessey? Arrive at the mountaintop.
19:18 Speaker 07 Pretty shallow when it comes to that.
19:20 Sean Fennessey? I'm just trying to catch up a little bit.
19:23 Sean Fennessey? Okay, so let's, let's talk about the categories because they're a little bit unusual. I've been trying to get, expand.
19:29 Speaker 03 You're iterating.
19:29 Amanda Dobbins? Wow.
19:30 Sean Fennessey? The parameters of, of, of categorical strategy and it worked out really well on the Star Wars.
19:35 Speaker 03 We have some exciting things we're, we're testing for the fall, you and I.
19:38 Sean Fennessey? We, we do.
19:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
19:39 Sean Fennessey? We did no spoilers, please.
19:40 Speaker 07 Categorical strategy wise?
19:45 Sean Fennessey? Okay, the first category to Joanna's point, and maybe to Rob's as well, is franchise film. Now, this is a film that is part of a franchise. It can be the first film, it can be the last film, but if it's part of a franchise, it's eligible. Next category is original. Now, this requires a lot of specificity. This is not based on any pre-existing source material.
20:10 Speaker 03 As in?
20:11 Speaker 05 This is when Rob got really annoying last time.
20:13 Sean Fennessey? As in a novel, as in a real-life event?
20:15 Speaker 03 Okay.
20:16 Sean Fennessey? As in another film, a television series? This has to be from...
20:23 Speaker 06 The mind of the screenwriter.
20:24 Speaker 03 What happens if it's... For our listeners, what happens if it is a movie based on a book, but is not part of a franchise? Where does it go?
20:32 Sean Fennessey? In another category.
20:33 Speaker 05 Wild card.
20:34 Sean Fennessey? Not in either.
20:35 Speaker 05 What if it takes inspiration?
20:38 Speaker 07 That's what I was gonna ask. How strict are we being about real-life rules? Because like, no, there's no such thing as an original idea, not really. Everything is influenced by the stimuli around us all the time. Like, if someone's like...
20:49 Sean Fennessey? The house of our podcast host would say that, wouldn't they?
20:53 Speaker 07 If someone's like, "My neighbor whispered to a mailman a tale of their nanny, and it planted a seed that 30 years later I realized inspired this text." That's still original, right? But if you're like, "These people are real people," that's not eligible. Is that a fair distinction to draw?
21:11 Sean Fennessey? I think the best way to think about it is if this film can be nominated for Best Original Screenplay.
21:16 Speaker 07 But a lot of the Best Original Screenplay nominees wouldn't be eligible by your rule.
21:20 Amanda Dobbins? With respect, that's a terrible idea.
21:21 Speaker 07 Because they're not...
21:22 Amanda Dobbins? Because they make that shit up all the time. That's the most loosey-goosey category in history, and it's just whatever.
21:27 Speaker 07 Wait, like, King's Speech was Best Original Screenplay, but that's based on a real person. So by your rule, like, that's...
21:33 Sean Fennessey? So that minus real events.
21:36 Speaker 07 Okay.
21:36 Speaker 05 Okay.
21:37 Speaker 07 Who sent you the most questions?
21:38 Speaker 03 This is gonna be exciting.
21:39 Speaker 07 About the pod heading into it.
21:40 Sean Fennessey? Who do you think sent the most questions? You sent six questions just last night.
21:43 Speaker 07 I at least sent it to the group so that we could address them just once.
21:47 Speaker 03 Oh, you were side-channeling with him? You're like...
21:48 Sean Fennessey? Always.
21:49 Speaker 07 Well, I had, as you, as some of you will remember, a very public scarring experience where Sean looked at me on the Star Wars draft and said, "Maybe if you had asked me." And so I won't be making that mistake again.
22:00 Speaker 03 Was this when you tried to do like The Force was like a different character or something like that?
22:04 Speaker 06 She tried to draw, she tried to say that R2-D2 was a, was a Skywalker.
22:08 Speaker 07 She's only talked about it on like 20 podcasts.
22:11 Sean Fennessey? The Midchlorians.
22:12 Speaker 06 The Midchlorians, yeah.
22:13 Sean Fennessey? Where did you land on that?
22:14 Speaker 07 Stand by it.
22:14 Speaker 06 On what?
22:15 Speaker 07 I really liked the Midchlorian one. That one I would support.
22:17 Speaker 06 I didn't, I didn't dig either one.
22:18 Speaker 07 You're welcome. R2-D2.
22:19 Sean Fennessey? They weren't, they weren't eligible. Where did you land on that?
22:21 Speaker 07 You famously hate droids.
22:22 Speaker 05 I scooped you on the droid pick on our Star Wars.
22:24 Speaker 07 Because I was experiencing PTSD.
22:26 Speaker 06 I will say this though, there was a, she did have, Mal does have a constituency online of people who argue
22:33 Speaker 07 They supported the take.
22:34 Speaker 06 very, very passionately.
22:35 Sean Fennessey? Those are clipping bots that she hired.
22:37 Speaker 06 The R2-D2 are, is a Skywalker. People were very upset about it.
22:40 Speaker 05 Is that where you got your pro Bane army as well?
22:43 Speaker 07 The, the Bane lovers are everywhere. There are dozens of us.
22:47 Sean Fennessey? Uh, the third category is comedy. That requires no further delineation.
22:52 Speaker 05 I don't know. What is funny?
22:54 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
22:55 Sean Fennessey? I'll let you.
22:55 Speaker 06 I'll tell you what, in comedy...
22:56 Speaker 07 Like funny ha-ha?
22:57 Speaker 06 I'm looking at a lot of movies that I thought were really funny at the time that have really aged.
23:02 Speaker 05 What about the ending of Remember Me? Can that count as comedy?
23:05 Amanda Dobbins? Hey, please do not spoil my first one.
23:08 Sean Fennessey? Uh, I think finding something funny doesn't make it a comedy.
23:12 Speaker 05 Unintentional comedy? Okay.
23:13 Amanda Dobbins? Have you, has everyone here seen Remember Me?
23:16 Sean Fennessey? Only the end. I don't think I've seen it, but I know the end.
23:18 Amanda Dobbins? Wow. I was there. That I saw at Prospect Park Cinemas.
23:22 Speaker 07 And did you laugh?
23:24 Amanda Dobbins? When she writes September 11th, 2001 on the chalkboard, I like fell into the aisle.
23:30 Speaker 07 Yeah.
23:30 Amanda Dobbins? I was like, I cannot believe this is about to happen. And it had not been spoiled for me by whoever that critic was.
23:36 Sean Fennessey? What happened on that day?
23:38 Amanda Dobbins? Well, it happened in the reflection of somebody's eyes, yeah.
23:42 Sean Fennessey? Okay, the next category is foreign language film or animated.
23:46 Speaker 03 Two of my faves.
23:47 Sean Fennessey? Now, CR asked me this yesterday, why foreign language film, xenophobe that he is?
23:51 Speaker 03 No. I said, it's such a robust category, it could have been its own.
23:57 Speaker 05 International feature.
23:58 Sean Fennessey? Oh, you can treat it as such. I am. You can ignore animated. I will.
24:02 Speaker 07 Sean, he definitely will.
24:03 Sean Fennessey? There's a, there are a few animated foreign language films that are eligible. And I'll say, I think, to the voters at large, I think you should be rewarded if you're able to fuse the category.
24:14 Speaker 07 Well, you, people, somebody could take three animated films in this draft. Someone could take four.
24:18 Sean Fennessey? I agree. That was, part of my thinking was there is an inordinate number of animated movies this year, both at the top of the box office and further down the line.
24:25 Speaker 05 If I select the 2010 film Frozen, will you allow us to pretend it's the end?
24:30 Speaker 07 Right, not that one.
24:32 Sean Fennessey? I tell you what, I have some affection for that film Frozen that you're talking about. Maybe it'll come up later. Uh, the next category is Oscar nominee, which we often do. The next category is blockbuster. The threshold here is 125 million. Domestic.
24:45 Speaker 06 Domestic.
24:46 Sean Fennessey? Domestic. Not 100 million, which is what we usually do around this time. The reason for that is the box office was very healthy in 2010. And there were a lot of movies that crossed the 125 threshold. And then the last category, of course, is wild card. So we've got 20 eligible movies in box office.
25:03 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm.
25:04 Sean Fennessey? We've got well over 50 in Oscars. Hmm, gotta do draft order. Everybody feeling good? Yeah.
25:10 Speaker 06 Let's do it.
25:10 Speaker 05 Amazing, so good.
25:11 Sean Fennessey? Any category questions before we get into that moment? No? Dan doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care. Rob, you ready to steal people's hearts and dreams? I hope. Okay. You're developing quite a reputation around these parts.
25:22 Amanda Dobbins? You have a Letterboxd list up here?
25:24 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm.
25:24 Amanda Dobbins? And you're already not following US release.
25:28 Sean Fennessey? I'm sure that that's true.
25:29 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. So we're, but that's important, right? It's US release.
25:32 Sean Fennessey? US release. US non-festival release. US non, yes, US theatrical release.
25:37 Speaker 06 Theatrical festivals.
25:41 Speaker 05 Van did all the prep for this, don't worry about it. The thing is, like, Van doesn't do any prep and then he comes in and he kills. It's annoying.
25:46 Speaker 07 Dominates.
25:46 Speaker 06 I don't believe in words.
25:47 Speaker 07 A genius who's also beloved, deeply annoying.
25:49 Speaker 05 Tough to compete.
25:51 Sean Fennessey? Jack Sanders. Let's do it. We need a draft order.
25:54 Speaker 07 I'm scared about the order for this one.
25:55 Sean Fennessey? So, well, what do you want?
25:57 Speaker 07 I, I personally feel that having a top pick is important in this draft.
26:00 Sean Fennessey? You have the first overall pick.
26:03 Amanda Dobbins? Wow.
26:04 Speaker 03 What just happened?
26:04 Speaker 06 It's like the worst possible.
26:06 Amanda Dobbins? What are you waiting?
26:07 Speaker 06 Like legitimately, the worst possible outcome.
26:09 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
26:10 Speaker 07 No, but then I have to wait so long for the second pick.
26:12 Amanda Dobbins? That's actually.
26:14 Speaker 07 I have, I am prepared to say, I think actually there's a case that the second pick is even better this, this round. I'll explain why moments.
26:19 Speaker 03 You've ever been happy.
26:22 Speaker 05 Selecting second overall is Sean.
26:24 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, good. Well, that's just what you want.
26:26 Speaker 07 That's funny because you don't want to take the movie that should go second.
26:28 Speaker 05 Third is Amanda Dobbins.
26:30 Speaker 07 But she does.
26:31 Speaker 05 Fourth is supervillain Rob Mahoney.
26:34 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
26:34 Sean Fennessey? Wow. Tough.
26:36 Speaker 05 Fifth, Van Lathan.
26:38 Speaker 07 Amanda and Rob are picking next to each other. That's always fun.
26:42 Speaker 05 Christopher Ryan with Joe last.
26:44 Amanda Dobbins? Damn.
26:44 Speaker 07 Oh, Joe, you're on the turn, though. That's a strong pick.
26:47 Amanda Dobbins? Don't.
26:49 Amanda Dobbins? I had a great time on the, on the turn last year.
26:52 Speaker 07 Okay.
26:53 Amanda Dobbins? Paint your own picture.
26:54 Sean Fennessey? Wow. This is hysterical.
26:56 Speaker 07 Boy, I mean, you, you're in probably the spot you want at least. Is that fair to say?
27:01 Sean Fennessey? No.
27:01 Speaker 07 What?
27:02 Sean Fennessey? I'm, I'm an incredible spot.
27:04 Amanda Dobbins? All right, somebody pick.
27:05 Speaker 07 Oh, are we starting?
27:06 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
27:06 Speaker 07 Why would we not start? I'm, I don't know. You guys are hosting.
27:10 Sean Fennessey? Let's just, let's just.
27:11 Speaker 07 You decide.
27:12 Sean Fennessey? Mallory.
27:12 Speaker 07 Yeah.
27:13 Sean Fennessey? Then me.
27:14 Amanda Dobbins? Then me.
27:15 Sean Fennessey? Then Amanda, then Rob, then Van, then CR, then Joe.
27:19 Speaker 05 That's correct.
27:20 Speaker 07 Can we set the over under on how many times Rob will piss Amanda off taking something that she wanted to take? Because that's a fun.
27:27 Sean Fennessey? She's in front of him on the first day.
27:28 Amanda Dobbins? I'm in front of him, yeah.
27:28 Speaker 07 But then he's in front of you.
27:29 Sean Fennessey? She has all the control here. Well, it'll circle back.
27:31 Speaker 07 Yeah.
27:31 Speaker 03 You have the most control.
27:32 Sean Fennessey? I encourage everyone to make some fireworks today, you know?
27:35 Speaker 03 Honestly, I think.
27:36 Speaker 07 You can get pretty weird in this.
27:37 Amanda Dobbins? I would say, I have.
27:38 Speaker 07 Said, paint your own picture.
27:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:41 Amanda Dobbins? But also I've done marginal prep, so.
27:43 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
27:44 Amanda Dobbins? I did prep, but, you know, I also have already drafted.
27:47 Speaker 03 Do you feel like this is a no brainer?
27:48 Amanda Dobbins? This year.
27:48 Speaker 07 Yes, I do.
27:49 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, go ahead.
27:50 Speaker 07 I thought that was a clear, clear top pick.
27:51 Amanda Dobbins? All right, what is it, Mallory?
27:52 Speaker 07 Let me just say the, quickly, the reason I thought there was a case that two was better is because I do think original is the hardest category.
27:59 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
28:00 Speaker 07 And I think there's a clear, for me, it's the category that makes me most anxious, like that I'm gonna be in the, like, sixth round and be like. Did I fuck this up? Right now, obviously, it's a very deep field. It'll be fine. But, and that's also a movie I adore. I think there's just a clear number one. And it's the Social Network, so I will be selecting it first overall.
28:20 Speaker 07 I will do that in, ooh, technically, it's a franchise film now. I'm gonna do that in, so you know what? I am gonna do it in franchise film. I'm gonna do it in franchise film.
28:33 Sean Fennessey? I think that's the correct category.
28:34 Speaker 07 Yep, I'm gonna do it in franchise film. Because it is, it is eligible now, right? As a franchise film. So that's where I'll be taking Social Network first overall. Thanks, guys. Okay. Jack, I just wanna say thank you. And I want you to know that I've always thought you were wonderful.
28:47 Speaker 04 I'm already regretting the decision.
28:48 Sean Fennessey? What would you like to say about the Social Network?
28:50 Speaker 03 There was no shaking of a.
28:52 Speaker 04 I left the Dungeons and Dragons die at the old place. That's on me.
28:56 Sean Fennessey? Did you just write down on a piece of paper, number one, Mallory, number two?
28:59 Speaker 04 I'll show you right here. This is what it is. It's like a little goblet. All the papers hanging, Chad.
29:04 Speaker 03 That's wack.
29:06 Sean Fennessey? Saltiness already.
29:07 Speaker 07 Paint your own picture. It's the best movie of the year, and it's one of the five best movies of the century so far. It's a.
29:14 Sean Fennessey? Some would say number one.
29:15 Speaker 07 Yeah, I mean.
29:16 Sean Fennessey? Some podcasts would say it.
29:17 Speaker 07 Is anyone here in the room with us? Some would, some would. Some other lists might say somewhere between two to four.
29:22 Speaker 03 But you take the phone call about other movies, though.
29:24 Speaker 07 Yeah, you all, you have the discussion.
29:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:26 Speaker 07 Except for the.
29:27 Sean Fennessey? Five first round picks from Kale Bridges, we'll take it.
29:29 Speaker 07 Except for the Social Reckoning, which I don't wanna take the meaning of.
29:31 Sean Fennessey? Four for 106 for Jalen Brunson, we'll take it. We'll take the phone call.
29:34 Speaker 07 The shirt is fantastic. It's obscured from view by the laptop, but it's a wonderful shirt. Let everyone see that. It's beautiful.
29:40 Sean Fennessey? Thank you.
29:41 Speaker 07 Beautiful shirt. Incredible Fincher movie. It's a great Sorkin script. The performances are iconic. It's a movie in the moment that felt incredible, urgent, perfect, reflective of the time. And that has only been truer as we've aged. So it's sensational.
29:53 Sean Fennessey? What's your, you watched the Social Network trailer.
29:55 Speaker 03 Social Reckoning.
29:56 Speaker 07 Social Reckoning, I did. I sure did. Booted that up on the 75-inch big screen. I have, I have some concerns, but I will be there day one. I will be there day one.
30:04 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
30:04 Amanda Dobbins? I will be there. It's allegedly gonna be at the Venice Film Festival, so I'm gonna be sitting at it alone, jet lagged, in Venice. I don't, I don't, I'm gonna.
30:12 Speaker 07 Will you drop some takes into the group chat?
30:13 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, no, then I'll do like a video blog of me dying and then, but of happiness or sadness.
30:19 Speaker 07 Yeah, it's great. It could be great. It could be great.
30:21 Speaker 03 So you start your alien pod now.
30:23 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
30:25 Amanda Dobbins? Are you gonna go on his alien?
30:26 Speaker 06 I thought it was a phenomenal idea.
30:29 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
30:29 Speaker 06 Couldn't believe you.
30:30 Sean Fennessey? I feel like we could do a great job.
30:31 Amanda Dobbins? So, okay, so let's do it right now. So, disclosure, disclosure day happens and we see all of that footage.
30:39 Speaker 07 On the local news, which you're definitely watching.
30:42 Amanda Dobbins? They take it national and they don't put the NBC bug on it, right? They have that conversation. Internets. And also, you know, they run it through the AI checker. So, everything.
30:53 Speaker 07 That's right. Ground truth pixels.
30:55 Speaker 06 Very lovely black woman kind of gets everybody into it.
30:59 Amanda Dobbins? Right.
30:59 Speaker 06 Phenomenal.
31:00 Amanda Dobbins? And then they, okay, and so then.
31:02 Speaker 05 And then they have reception on their phone in the subway.
31:04 Amanda Dobbins? And then they rolled the real alien out.
31:07 Speaker 06 I almost lost it.
31:08 Speaker 03 That was where you lost it?
31:09 Speaker 06 I almost lost it at that point.
31:11 Amanda Dobbins? They, but, guys, they do, hold on. They, in New York at least.
31:16 Sean Fennessey? We have reception.
31:16 Amanda Dobbins? They have tremendous reception on the subway. I purchased a leather jacket.
31:19 Speaker 07 I thought it was less plausible that everybody could connect to live around the place.
31:22 Amanda Dobbins? On the subway, my last time I was there.
31:24 Speaker 06 Okay, shout out to them, I'm done.
31:25 Sean Fennessey? In some spots, dark spots.
31:27 Amanda Dobbins? So, so they're broadcasting the tapes. The, the old alien rolls out, okay? And then, and then you do what?
31:37 Speaker 06 So, I have two choices.
31:38 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
31:39 Speaker 06 I either.
31:41 Speaker 05 So, we're not drafting 2010.
31:43 Speaker 06 I go, I have two choices. I either go native or I pod.
31:48 Sean Fennessey? I was gonna say, you come over to my house and be pod.
31:50 Speaker 06 I either got two choices. Either I go native, I do the whole thing, because there's gonna be a run on. Everything, everything's going to shit.
31:56 Sean Fennessey? Highest learning.
31:57 Speaker 06 I either go native or I pod. That's, that's it.
31:59 Amanda Dobbins? But, so you are rededicating your life.
32:01 Speaker 06 I gotta, I gotta, I have to find the truth.
32:04 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, but they've just told you the truth.
32:06 Speaker 06 I got more truth.
32:07 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, all right.
32:07 Speaker 07 If you wanted aliens to understand our society, which big pick movie draft would you have them listen to first?
32:14 Speaker 05 99.
32:15 Sean Fennessey? I probably would just cut out the snatch portion.
32:17 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, 2010.
32:19 Sean Fennessey? This is what it's like here.
32:21 Speaker 06 One of the five greatest podcasts I've ever been a part of in any pod.
32:25 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
32:25 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, trying to think, were any of these movies paired with blowjobs? I'll get back to you. We'll see how the draft goes.
32:32 Speaker 06 Can I say one more thing about?
32:33 Sean Fennessey? You make it sound like a wine pairing.
32:34 Speaker 06 Can I say one more thing about the social network before we move on?
32:37 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
32:37 Speaker 06 For anybody else, was the social network like a complete revelation in a, in that you knew nothing about any of that shit? Like, I legitimately.
32:48 Speaker 06 MySpace comes along, everybody's on MySpace, and then all of a sudden, everybody kinda like just makes this psychic decision to go to Facebook.
32:58 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm.
32:58 Speaker 06 Facebook is just better. I'm like, okay, well shit, we're on Facebook now. We're on Facebook. I know nothing about startups, I know nothing about Peter Thiel, I know nothing about any of that stuff. That movie, like, wasn't just, I'm thirty at this point, right? But that movie wasn't just like a awesome movie. It also, like, was almost like an encyclopedic map to like how you get your idea off the ground and like what it costs you.
33:23 Speaker 05 Well, it was really funny as someone who grew up in the Bay Area and it was like, it felt like a real like, is this fucking play about us? And then it, we didn't yet know how much that culture would just take over everything. You know? So it felt like, it felt like a, a local sort of exploration of our culture and then it just became.
33:41 Speaker 06 And it was so early in his career. It wasn't like he was a fifty or sixty year old guy and they were doing a retrospective. The shit had just started.
33:48 Speaker 05 Yeah.
33:48 Speaker 06 And they just, almost like they wanted you to know how this is done, cause this is about to be such a big part of your life.
33:53 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I've said many times on the show, I really love recent history period pieces and they're really hard to do well. Um, I mean, it's basically a seven or eight year period of time that has transpired from when Facebook launches to arriving at the release of the movie, which is, you know, to have the perception and the foresight as to like what this is gonna do to people? And the way that it kind of like instantaneously changed the way that we interact with each other? Even just the face mash thing at the very beginning of the film where you can like, oh wow, we're in the dark time now. Where like, we think, we, we think of each other as commodities instead of as people? Where we're being told that this is the opposite. This is going to connect us, but what it's obviously gonna do is divide us. And you know, it sounds like Sorkin is obviously trying to follow that up in a way that maybe we don't need to explicate it to us in the same way.
34:37 Sean Fennessey? But I do think it kinda put. Words and images to a feeling that was starting to rise. And that's why, one of the reasons why I think the movie is so effective and still, it holds up to this day.
34:47 Speaker 04 Is that what lasts, like 30 years from now? Is what we remember about The Social Network? That it is kind of the defining public account of what happened with this man and this company? Or is it the Eisenberg performance? Is it the, like, the score? Like, what is it that lasts?
34:59 Speaker 05 It's a harbinger of something to come.
35:01 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
35:02 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
35:02 Speaker 06 Also, let us-
35:03 Amanda Dobbins? And how right it was.
35:05 Speaker 05 Yeah.
35:05 Amanda Dobbins? And how prescient it was, even in, in the moment, of not specifically how, like, we use Facebook, but just people's relationship to the internet and quote-unquote "social media", at least our generation. I mean, a, a common thing on this podcast is that all our young listeners are just like, "Guys, that movie's not that good. What's wrong with you?" Uh, but so everyone, well, but I think if you're 30 or younger, you have experienced a different internet, a different social media, and-
35:33 Speaker 03 And Facebook wasn't really-
35:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, and it doesn't, like, speak to you in the same way.
35:37 Speaker 05 Like, it's a psychological profile of a kind of person, the kind of people who will, who now run the world.
35:42 Sean Fennessey? That's exactly-
35:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, for sure.
35:44 Speaker 05 The tech millionaire.
35:45 Speaker 06 That, to me, was the most subversive thing about the movie. Because growing up, the nerds were always the good guys. You saw, like, i- i- i- remember Lucas, where he gets piled upon with football and then whether, all the nerds in the 80s and the 90s were the people that had these hidden virtues, that, uh, people were like, "Oh, my God, in high school, you don't have biceps, you have brains. Eventually, this guy's gonna be running your company." Eventually, but you didn't think that perhaps that guy would be corrupted by all of his experiences and go on to use his prodigious intellect to dominate people and, like, fuck them over. And I remember watching that movie going, "Shit, if we have 10 or 15 years of these dudes who learned the code
36:30 Speaker 06 just fucking us, we might be in for it."
36:33 Amanda Dobbins? Well, guess what?
36:34 Speaker 06 We were.
36:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
36:35 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
36:35 Speaker 05 We still are.
36:36 Sean Fennessey? It's also just a very, I think, clear-headed- Movie about the voracious nature of capital that just like getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger is the goal of everything and that once forces come in with people who have those ideas that their entire idea is growth at all costs, no matter the expense of humanity, personal friendship, whatever. And you know, most movies are not brave enough to be as kind of like sharp and mean as that movie is. I mean, that's a really tough movie. It's a really embittered movie, but I really, really agree with what you're saying, which is that younger people don't esteem the movie as highly, not just because they didn't experience Facebook, but because I feel like pretty much all of us here have realized in the last five years
37:18 Sean Fennessey? that the most powerful people for this portion of our lives are rooted in the experience of the movie that we didn't necessarily know. And that when you're younger, you're like, I'm being held down by the president or the senate or CEOs of, you know, Nabisco or whatever massive company. But now these are the real domineering figures in society.
37:37 Speaker 06 We so many things about that movie surprises, like the wildly competent Justin Timberlake performance.
37:43 Speaker 07 I was gonna say.
37:44 Speaker 06 Like surprises.
37:45 Sean Fennessey? Seems like a comic.
37:46 Speaker 06 Now it's yeah, it's like we were like, oh, my God, everything you look at the movie now, it just, it probably doesn't resonate the same way with you.
37:52 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
37:52 Speaker 06 Yeah.
37:53 Sean Fennessey? Well, great pick. That's some of the more trenchant analysis we've gotten on a pick. I wonder if my pick will engender similar analysis. In original, I'll be taking Inception.
38:03 Speaker 07 There you go. A movie you famously hate and shit on pods all the time.
38:06 Speaker 03 Yeah. Have you just dedicated your life to convincing people you don't hate this movie?
38:10 Sean Fennessey? Uh, I don't hate it, but I don't.
38:13 Speaker 07 You want it because it's powerful.
38:14 Sean Fennessey? I don't love it.
38:15 Speaker 07 It's a powerful pick.
38:15 Sean Fennessey? But this is the only pick to make.
38:18 Speaker 03 Are there other films that you like more than this?
38:21 Sean Fennessey? Are there other Nolan films I like more?
38:22 Speaker 03 No, other movie 2010 movies that you like more than Inception left on the board?
38:26 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
38:26 Speaker 06 I just ask a dumbass question. How the fuck you don't like Inception?
38:30 Sean Fennessey? Wonderful.
38:31 Speaker 06 Like what, like what, like what?
38:33 Sean Fennessey? I think it's very flawed.
38:34 Speaker 06 Okay.
38:35 Speaker 07 Say more. What are the flaws?
38:36 Sean Fennessey? Well, there's a whole podcast where I that I recorded.
38:38 Speaker 06 I know, but like, just get, I haven't heard that motherfucker. So like, give me just a little bit of like, what you go to, you go to Inception, you just leave, you don't like Inception. What happens? How's like, how's that? How did that?
38:49 Speaker 03 Yeah. What do you do next? What do you do?
38:51 Sean Fennessey? I mean, I didn't do what Chris did, which is seek out the limitless drug. So you can further expand your mind.
38:55 Speaker 03 I know. I was already on the limitless drug. That's why Inception hits so hard.
38:59 Speaker 06 I had a magical time.
39:00 Sean Fennessey? I'll tell you, I'll tell you one of my issues with it is the beginning of something that I think Nolan pursued over the next series of movies, which is his desire to over explain the premise of his movie and try to convince you that the naughty plotting makes sense because of his concerns that he has maybe gone too far. I find when he has a-
39:18 Speaker 07 And yet you love Tenet.
39:20 Sean Fennessey? Well, but the whole point of Tenet is him unpacking that idea. It's him literally saying, don't think about it. Just feel it, which is that it's him responding to himself and the criticisms that he's received, which I found to be a very self-aware and interesting idea. This movie, I think, really bends over backwards to justify its structure and plotting in ways that I don't think is very impactful. That's just me. I am selecting it here. It has many merits. It looks incredible.
39:44 Speaker 07 Yeah.
39:45 Sean Fennessey? It has an amazing score. It has good performances. My favorite movie star right at the center of it.
39:48 Speaker 07 I live with it every day.
39:49 Sean Fennessey? There's a lot of things I like about it.
39:51 Speaker 07 Why not pick a movie you love?
39:52 Sean Fennessey? Well, because we're playing a game. This isn't a make a list of my favorite movies podcast. If you want to do that, probably can do it later.
39:57 Speaker 07 When you guys did this podcast the first time, the second overall pick in the draft, Chris took Never Let Me Go.
40:02 Speaker 03 Did I?
40:03 Sean Fennessey? You did. But that's because-
40:04 Speaker 03 It was a beautiful movie.
40:05 Speaker 06 That was beautiful.
40:05 Speaker 07 Oh.
40:06 Sean Fennessey? I'm the best.
40:09 Speaker 07 Putting that on Wildcard.
40:13 Speaker 07 Hey, Newer's your girl next year.
40:14 Speaker 06 Oh my God, I can't wait. I almost texted you about that. In recognition of this, I just got fucked up.
40:21 Speaker 07 Recognition.
40:22 Speaker 06 I'm fucked. Like it's, I'm just gonna pick movies I like.
40:26 Speaker 07 Yeah. Great. Okay.
40:27 Sean Fennessey? Some people choose to play that way.
40:28 Speaker 07 Inception is my favorite Nolan movie, so I think this is the right pick, but we all know you hate it and so does everyone listening to this pod. Yeah.
40:35 Sean Fennessey? Hate is such a strong word and it's just not true. I don't know what to tell you.
40:39 Sean Fennessey? It's like a six out of 10. I think it has a lot of cool stuff.
40:41 Speaker 03 Six out of 10?
40:42 Speaker 07 Out of 10?
40:43 Speaker 06 You're so gross.
40:46 Speaker 06 Get the fuck out of here, Sean. You're never. I'm a spoiler. Letting this happen. Go fucking away, bro.
40:53 Speaker 03 An actual gap. I've been here for years. Why we can't actually talk about these movies for as long as we are because then we wind up saying things like Inception is a six out of 10. Just torching your own draft of real time. Charles. Isn't like 27 meters, 47 meters down a six out of 10? Sure.
41:11 Speaker 06 Oh, my God.
41:12 Speaker 03 Holy shit.
41:12 Sean Fennessey? I have a very discreet point of view, you know?
41:14 Speaker 03 I have one.
41:15 Sean Fennessey? That's what makes this a magical podcast.
41:16 Speaker 03 I have one more question.
41:17 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
41:18 Speaker 03 Which is, in 2010, you see Inception, you're.
41:21 Sean Fennessey? You say what?
41:22 Speaker 03 No.
41:25 Sean Fennessey? The second person interview style.
41:28 Speaker 03 How shocked would 2010 you be to know where Christopher Nolan stands in filmmaking right now?
41:33 Sean Fennessey? I already really, really liked him. I, this is the thing I've been trying to say since.
41:37 Speaker 06 The van, buddy.
41:39 Sean Fennessey? No, no, from Memento, which I saw in theaters and absolutely loved. And I've been saying this for years because people are just like, anti-Nolan pilled because of the Inception pod that we did so many years ago. But I always loved Memento. I think Insomnia is not bad. I think it's pretty good. I thought, I was, I'm not crazy about Batman Begins, but I loved The Dark Knight. Loved.
42:00 Speaker 06 What about The Prestige?
42:01 Sean Fennessey? And The Prestige I loved too. I liked all of those movies. So to me, it's not about a grudge. To me, it's Inception in Interstellar is a downswing for me in his career. And I know for many people, it's a huge upswing. It's like the realization of something. I totally respect that.
42:13 Speaker 06 Yeah.
42:14 Speaker 05 No, I don't know if you agree with me, but I think following might be his best work.
42:17 Speaker 07 It's a skeleton key.
42:18 Speaker 05 It really is a skeleton key to his entire homography.
42:22 Sean Fennessey? Who's third?
42:23 Amanda Dobbins? It's me.
42:24 Speaker 07 Dub.
42:24 Amanda Dobbins? So I'm very clear.
42:26 Speaker 03 Did you think that you were gonna get Inception because he was gonna say like, I couldn't possibly draft it?
42:31 Amanda Dobbins? I was prepared. I had two possibilities and I knew that if he didn't take it, I had to take it logically, you know, in terms of playing a game to win.
42:39 Speaker 05 I think it had to be Social Network Inception or vice versa.
42:43 Speaker 07 And I think because it's The Ringer, the number three movie is also pretty clear.
42:46 Amanda Dobbins? Well, sure. And here I go. In Oscar nominee, I will be taking the town.
42:49 Speaker 07 There she is.
42:50 Amanda Dobbins? Which when we said 2010 was the first movie that popped into my head.
42:54 Speaker 03 There goes college soccer.
42:59 Amanda Dobbins? This movie is directed and stars Ben Affleck. A patron saint of this podcast and my personal life.
43:10 Amanda Dobbins? It's cool. Love this movie. This movie is so good. This went last night when I needed to prep and I wanted to put something on that I was familiar with while I was like looking at my computer.
43:22 Speaker 05 The dulcet tones of Blake Lively. That's what I gotta hear.
43:25 Amanda Dobbins? She's just, and I did stay watching through that scene, but the, come on, the opening of it with the, you know, I understand that it rips off your beloved heat, but I like to think of it as more of an homage.
43:35 Speaker 03 It's all, it's in conversation with one another.
43:37 Amanda Dobbins? You know.
43:37 Speaker 03 Men in different cities doing the same thing.
43:39 Amanda Dobbins? I still, and, and.
43:43 Amanda Dobbins? With flair.
43:47 Amanda Dobbins? The, the title card of I'm Proud to Be From Charlestown. It ruined my life, literally, but I'm Proud makes me laugh every single time. It is also really fucked up. Ben Affleck, pretty good in this. Jeremy, Jeremy Runner, obviously, whose car are we gonna take?
44:01 Speaker 03 Yep.
44:02 Amanda Dobbins? And then also, you know, Ham doesn't get a lot of credit, but this is the not fucking around crew.
44:06 Speaker 03 Amy Tyus Welliver, really.
44:08 Amanda Dobbins? Use that a lot in my own life.
44:11 Sean Fennessey? Use that to your sons.
44:12 Amanda Dobbins? It was, I finally got to go to Fenway last year, I think, or was it two years ago? Anyway, only thing I thought about was being in the town. I, I love this movie. It's very, very well made, crowd pleasing entertainment. So, thank you, Ben Affleck.
44:28 Speaker 07 Is it fair to say that no matter what the draft order had been, those would have been the top three movies?
44:32 Speaker 05 I didn't have the town on my, here's the, really, the reason I didn't, because it felt unfair to take it from the people who care about it so much. Is that the attitude one should bring to a draft?
44:40 Amanda Dobbins? Generous.
44:40 Sean Fennessey? That isn't the one I brought.
44:45 Sean Fennessey? I think a very logical pick.
44:47 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
44:49 Amanda Dobbins? What are their wives' names? Janets? The Janets want you to open the door.
44:54 Speaker 05 Really good stuff.
44:55 Sean Fennessey? Wanna do a little Fergie for us?
44:55 Amanda Dobbins? I love it.
44:56 Speaker 05 Yeah, please. Rebecca Hall.
44:59 Speaker 03 What do you think, what 2010 movie do you think Fergie would have worked best in, outside of the town?
45:03 Sean Fennessey? Toy Story 3.
45:06 Speaker 03 Gonna send you to the fucking moon.
45:09 Sean Fennessey? That's good.
45:10 Speaker 03 Does that happen in Toy Story? He goes up? No?
45:11 Sean Fennessey? Uh, no. Van, you're up. You're up.
45:14 Speaker 07 Rob.
45:15 Sean Fennessey? It's me.
45:15 Speaker 06 It was Rob.
45:16 Speaker 04 Uh, I will be selecting Toy Story 3.
45:18 Speaker 07 God damn it. Okay.
45:19 Speaker 04 Amazing movie. To me, the best Toy Story movie.
45:21 Sean Fennessey? Whoa.
45:22 Speaker 04 And I am, I am really spooked about Blockbuster, so I'm actually gonna take it in Blockbuster.
45:26 Speaker 07 Oh, okay.
45:28 Speaker 04 I think you're not gonna get a better high from franchise filmmaking than the end of Toy Story 3. Andy giving away all of the toys, in which I am a wreck, as he says. Just some nice little affectionate thing about like, here's Woody, my guy, you know? Here's Slinky Dog. That's, that's peak to me.
45:45 Sean Fennessey? Did you see 5 yet?
45:46 Speaker 04 I have not seen 5 yet. I'm saving it to see with some friends. Very excited about it, though.
45:50 Speaker 06 The end of the movie was so devastating, I did not think they could make another one.
45:54 Speaker 07 And did they really?
45:55 Speaker 06 Uh, but, I get it, but I did, the end of the movie, like, this was, this was in my...
46:00 Speaker 03 This is the, um...
46:01 Speaker 07 The trash compactor, yes. It's the most devastating scene in movie history.
46:05 Speaker 04 Wait, the, the trash compactor is the devastating one?
46:07 Speaker 07 Oh, my god.
46:08 Speaker 04 Guys, it's definitely Andy giving away the toys.
46:11 Speaker 07 Sobbing. I think this is great.
46:13 Speaker 04 You thought they were gonna die?
46:15 Speaker 07 It's just, it's not even about whether you think they're, they're gonna die, it's them confronting the end of something so monumental. It is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. My top four has gone in order here. This is really fun, also scary, in terms of some movies being available when it comes back to me on the turn, but this is my favorite Toy Story movie as well. I, I, I just...
46:32 Speaker 04 It's wonderful.
46:33 Speaker 07 Love.
46:33 Sean Fennessey? Couldn't be me. Toy Story 1, you seen it?
46:36 Speaker 07 That's the second on my power ranking.
46:38 Speaker 04 You do remind me a lot of Sid.
46:39 Amanda Dobbins? Have you seen any Toy Story movies?
46:40 Speaker 03 I haven't.
46:41 Amanda Dobbins? You haven't?
46:42 Speaker 03 No.
46:42 Sean Fennessey? Not you, Josh.
46:42 Speaker 06 I don't watch cartoons.
46:44 Amanda Dobbins? What was your... G.I. Joes were your toys? Yeah, like, what were your toys?
46:48 Speaker 03 Transformers, Mask, G.I. Joe, and then Star Wars stuff.
46:51 Amanda Dobbins? And did you have, like, a, a special toy, or like, lovey, like a person that you took everywhere?
46:57 Speaker 05 A stuffy?
46:57 Speaker 03 Uh, not...
46:58 Speaker 05 A blankie?
46:59 Speaker 03 Not after, like, 5.
47:00 Sean Fennessey? The line of the shields, baseball card?
47:02 Speaker 03 That's probably...
47:05 Sean Fennessey? Uh, okay. I do think that that's probably the consensus top four.
47:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:10 Speaker 05 Yeah.
47:10 Sean Fennessey? At least amongst us.
47:11 Speaker 04 And then Van comes.
47:12 Sean Fennessey? Now Van Lathan has a selection to make.
47:14 Speaker 06 Yeah, Scott Pilgrim versus the world comedy.
47:16 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, fucking hell.
47:17 Speaker 05 Damn.
47:17 Speaker 04 Amazing movie.
47:18 Speaker 06 Yeah.
47:19 Sean Fennessey? Uh, was that the first pod?
47:22 Speaker 06 We ever did.
47:22 Sean Fennessey? We did?
47:23 Speaker 06 Yeah.
47:23 Sean Fennessey? It was either that or Mr. Holland's Opus Rewatchables, which is one of my favorite pods of all time.
47:28 Speaker 04 Scott Pilgrim has not been a rewatchable, right?
47:30 Sean Fennessey? It is not.
47:30 Speaker 05 You took comedy?
47:31 Speaker 06 Comedy, Scott Pilgrim versus the world comedy.
47:33 Speaker 05 I thought they did do.
47:34 Speaker 04 I don't think it's been a proper rewatchable, has it?
47:36 Sean Fennessey? No.
47:37 Speaker 06 No, no, no, we did.
47:37 Sean Fennessey? We did a big picture.
47:38 Speaker 06 We did a big picture.
47:39 Sean Fennessey? 10 year anniversary.
47:40 Speaker 06 10 year anniversary on it.
47:41 Sean Fennessey? Me, you and and this Concepcion.
47:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:43 Speaker 06 Rarely say the term because I think it's overused, but a perfect movie.
47:47 Speaker 04 Genuinely.
47:48 Speaker 05 It's the best.
47:49 Speaker 06 Perfect movie, perfectly cast, uh, like a fantasy world that you want to be a part of. You wish these were your friends, you wish these were the happenings. The movie is just completely brilliant in every way to me.
48:02 Speaker 04 It also knows how ridiculous it is and how much of a piece of shit Scott is.
48:07 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
48:07 Speaker 04 Like, those two things are so important. Like, a lesser adaptation would be like, hey, let's do the fun video game stuff. Hey, let's do the, you know, the evil X's and we just lose track of what it's actually trying to say. This one is.
48:18 Speaker 06 Or let's stay away from how much of an asshole he is and not give you that.
48:21 Speaker 04 Let's smooth it out.
48:22 Speaker 06 Right.
48:22 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. Music is incredible in it.
48:25 Speaker 05 Great film.
48:25 Sean Fennessey? The Beck songs.
48:26 Speaker 04 Also, incredible draft class cast.
48:29 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. Early Brian Larson.
48:31 Speaker 05 Aubrey Plaza.
48:32 Sean Fennessey? Early Brandon Ralph.
48:33 Speaker 04 Winstead.
48:34 Sean Fennessey? Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
48:35 Speaker 06 Schwartzman.
48:36 Speaker 05 Chris Evans.
48:37 Speaker 06 Chris Evans is in it. And by the way.
48:38 Sean Fennessey? Kendrick.
48:39 Speaker 06 Uh, like, some of those people in that movie aren't, like, always super cool when they're in other movies.
48:45 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm.
48:45 Speaker 06 But if one, if a movie has three of the coolest performances ever, you know that motherfucker. That's another thing about the town. Like, Ben, Jeremy Renner, and like, these guys, yeah, those guys have never been cooler in another movie.
48:59 Speaker 05 Kimberly Langley.
49:00 Speaker 06 Yeah, and Blake Lively. But she really is, though, like.
49:04 Sean Fennessey? Age of Adeline, I'm sure. Fucked up.
49:06 Speaker 06 I fucking love that movie.
49:09 Speaker 06 I think that shit is underrated, man. I fucking love that movie.
49:14 Speaker 03 You just love a historical baddie, you know?
49:15 Speaker 06 Yeah, man. Harrison, like, I showed that movie to my mom. My mom was a basket case. She was like, "Oh, my God. They were in love before." I'm like, "Yeah, it's his son. It's kind of weird, but whatever." I love that fucking movie. I know y'all don't take it seriously, but that's the type of shit I get into. Saturday afternoon with mama. But mama, let me put something on and blow your fucking mind. Watch what happened to Han Solo.
49:37 Speaker 03 Did you start crying for a second?
49:39 Speaker 06 I love that thing. It's fun.
49:41 Sean Fennessey? Scott Pilgrim versus the world's a great pick.
49:42 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
49:44 Sean Fennessey? Okay, now it is CR's turn.
49:46 Speaker 03 Shutter Island blockbuster.
49:48 Amanda Dobbins? Damn it!
49:49 Speaker 04 Gotta be.
49:50 Amanda Dobbins? I was like, "It's gonna make it all the way to me."
49:52 Sean Fennessey? If I didn't do the inception thing, this is what I was doing.
49:54 Speaker 03 I can't remember if you, I think you said when you were talking about 2010 in general, about like, expectations versus what you got in the theater. I think Shutter Island was a minor letdown when I saw it. So I was such a huge fan of the Dennis Lehane book. And then in, it is something that stands up to such thorough interrogation on repeat viewing. It is so well made. The performances are so good in this. Ruffalo and DiCaprio are incredible. Michelle Williams is heartbreaking in this. That's all she did back in 2010, just break people's hearts.
50:27 Sean Fennessey? She did.
50:29 Speaker 03 And it's just such an awesome genre exercise by Scorsese that actually then breaks through some, whatever walls of like, you know, this is a cool thriller, a cool psychological Hitchcock homage, and becomes something like incredibly profound and sad. But I highly recommend the book as well if anybody's ever looking for a beach read. Dennis Lehane always delivers Mystic River.
50:50 Amanda Dobbins? There you go.
50:52 Speaker 06 On the beach?
50:52 Sean Fennessey? Pop a cold one and just relax a little bit. Check out Shutter Island.
50:58 Speaker 03 Shutter Island, it's like a mystery, but it's like, there's water, you know? Like, if you're on the beach, maybe you're just like.
51:04 Speaker 06 It's an awesome one.
51:05 Amanda Dobbins? You're looking for like, film reading?
51:06 Speaker 03 Sure.
51:07 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah? I did that once. I went to, my mom took me to Florence before I went to college and I read, what's that book?
51:14 Speaker 06 Charles Webber.
51:14 Amanda Dobbins? Agony and the, agony and the ecstasy. No one. Anyway, it was good, but I haven't, it's, maybe I'll do some, some water themes.
51:21 Speaker 03 Uh, this, but this remains one of my, my, my favorite 21st century Scorsese's, so.
51:26 Sean Fennessey? I would encourage people, if they haven't seen it, to check out A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American Movies, which is a documentary he did some years ago, where he talks through a lot of different kinds of American movies he loves. And he talks a lot about noir in that documentary. And you can see him, like, 10 years later, doing all the stuff he always wanted to do in that movie, which is really great. Um.
51:48 Speaker 03 Your turn, Joe.
51:49 Speaker 05 Really tough, really tough for me.
51:51 Amanda Dobbins? You want to shut our island?
51:52 Speaker 05 Yeah. Blockbuster, I think, is, like, by far and away the hardest category for me, because I think a lot of these films absolutely blow. Uh, and I was really hoping for either Inception or Shutter Island. However, there's still a great one here.
52:04 Sean Fennessey? There's a good one, right?
52:05 Speaker 05 Left for me. Uh, and it's called True Grit. And that is when I'm taking Blockbuster.
52:10 Amanda Dobbins? It's tough.
52:11 Speaker 05 Uh, this is like Jeff Bridges, like, Crazy Heart was really the beginning of it, but like, in full, like, coot mode. And it's just like, all coot from there on out. But this is, yeah, just like roostering and cootin'.
52:24 Speaker 03 And hell or high water in it.
52:25 Speaker 05 Yeah.
52:27 Sean Fennessey? I'd like to explore more about coot mode.
52:29 Speaker 05 Yeah, you know.
52:30 Speaker 03 When's Chris entering his coot mode? I think I've been in it for.
52:33 Speaker 05 I think you need to, like, lose a tooth in order to, like, get, really get there. Yeah.
52:40 Speaker 03 They're British. They'll fall out, actually.
52:43 Speaker 05 An incredible, uh, intro to Hailee Steinfeld's, uh, great David performance. My guy Barry Pepp is here. Donald Gleason's here. It's a fantastic movie. And a, and a remake that no one was clamoring for, because, you know, John Waits' version is so iconic. And then they just really did it. True Grit.
53:04 Speaker 03 Really?
53:04 Speaker 05 And how was it a blockbuster?
53:05 Amanda Dobbins? I was gonna say, shout out 2010 when this made 171 million dollars at the box office. Domestic.
53:13 Sean Fennessey? I do believe the, uh...
53:17 Sean Fennessey? Primary producer of the film who helped to get it made was a young man named David Allison.
53:22 Speaker 05 Oh.
53:23 Speaker 03 And it was in his earliest days of trying to get Skydance off the ground.
53:27 Sean Fennessey? He was getting involved in active projects without developing them himself.
53:31 Speaker 03 And if the Coen Brothers had been like, we're good, it's okay.
53:33 Speaker 05 Are you trying to besmirch my one remaining good option that I had in blockbuster?
53:38 Sean Fennessey? I'm merely, you know, elevating an important fact about one of the incoming leading CEOs in media and film.
53:45 Speaker 03 Drew Gritt laid the path to get to whiteness.
53:49 Sean Fennessey? That's right.
53:50 Speaker 06 Oh shit.
53:50 Speaker 05 That's really why Joe picked it. As you know, I'm a huge whiteness fan.
53:55 Sean Fennessey? Strong women, that's what you like in your stories.
53:56 Speaker 03 So you have two picks here.
53:58 Sean Fennessey? Yes, you have another pick.
53:59 Speaker 05 Oh, I think the other tough for me category is franchise film. So I am taking the American release of the Swedish film, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
54:09 Sean Fennessey? Wow.
54:10 Speaker 05 I think that's a great pick.
54:12 Sean Fennessey? This was a question that Mallory asked me yesterday.
54:15 Speaker 05 Yeah.
54:15 Sean Fennessey? Could, would this be a movie?
54:17 Speaker 06 It would be.
54:17 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, of course.
54:18 Speaker 03 Uh, no, this is Numia Rapace's Swedish.
54:21 Speaker 05 And then Michael Nykwest.
54:23 Speaker 06 I never saw that one.
54:24 Amanda Dobbins? And then Venture remakes it the next year. You took that in franchise.
54:27 Speaker 06 That one I saw.
54:28 Speaker 05 Yeah.
54:28 Amanda Dobbins? It's good.
54:29 Speaker 05 They released all three, the entire trilogy in 2010.
54:33 Amanda Dobbins? Did you read those books?
54:34 Speaker 05 I did.
54:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yes, they're really like an open-faced sandwich.
54:38 Amanda Dobbins? I just like all, everything, she's just always eating an open-faced sandwich or a frozen pizza.
54:43 Sean Fennessey? Eating a few other things.
54:46 Speaker 06 Very good, Sean.
54:47 Speaker 05 Okay, um, yeah, I feel really good about that in franchise film. So what to say about that?
54:53 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
54:54 Sean Fennessey? Those are sterling picks. Uh, we're back to UCR.
54:56 Speaker 03 In original?
54:58 Amanda Dobbins? Look at you, no phone, no computer.
55:01 Speaker 03 I'm taking Unstoppable.
55:02 Speaker 05 Oh, beautiful, okay.
55:04 Speaker 03 Uh, the platonic ideal of the movie. Two men on a train.
55:07 Speaker 05 Wait, in original?
55:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, is it based on something?
55:11 Speaker 06 I think there's a book.
55:12 Speaker 05 I think so, isn't it?
55:13 Sean Fennessey? No, it is based on the real-life CSX 888.
55:16 Speaker 05 You're picking another category.
55:17 Speaker 03 I'll pick another category if I have to. Are you really telling me that that is not an original?
55:21 Sean Fennessey? It is based on the real-life CSX 888.
55:24 Speaker 05 He's reading it off of Wikipedia and we just never.
55:26 Speaker 07 Been wrong.
55:26 Speaker 05 So source material.
55:28 Speaker 07 Pick that in in other categories.
55:30 Speaker 04 It's Oscar eligible.
55:30 Speaker 07 It's Oscar eligible. Yeah. And certainly.
55:32 Sean Fennessey? This incident has its own Wikipedia page. And in the first paragraph of that page, it says the incident.
55:38 Speaker 03 This must be great to just be able to write the constitution as you go. It's just be like commitment for if it has a Wikipedia.
55:44 Sean Fennessey? Here's my advice to you. Start your own movie podcast.
55:50 Speaker 03 I guess I'll put it in Oscar. Sure.
55:52 Speaker 07 Love it.
55:53 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. Oscar. Good.
55:54 Speaker 05 That's good. That's great.
55:56 Speaker 03 This, like I was gonna say, just the platonic ideal of a movie, two men on a train, that train won't stop.
56:04 Speaker 07 Guys in cities.
56:06 Speaker 03 And then the executive is like, I don't know. And they're like, Denzel, Chris Pine, Tony Scott, get the fuck out of it. Write the check and don't talk to me for a year. That's how this movie worked. And it was perfect. And Quentin Tarantino agrees with us. In fact, he illuminated this movie to me. I always liked it very much. And then talking about it with him on rewatchables, I was like, I was like, I have been converted. This is what the guy on the road to Damascus was happened to him, you know?
56:32 Sean Fennessey? What happened?
56:32 Speaker 05 You and Paul, you and Paul?
56:33 Speaker 03 Converted. Yeah.
56:35 Speaker 05 You and Paul were just sort of like, I've seen the light.
56:38 Speaker 03 Wonderful, wonderful movie and a great snapshot of Pennsylvania.
56:42 Sean Fennessey? Wonderful.
56:43 Speaker 05 It's just guys in different cities doing things.
56:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
56:45 Speaker 04 But this time they're yelling like, luck doesn't exist at a rail yard. Just back and forth to each other over and over.
56:50 Sean Fennessey? Riding on a train.
56:52 Speaker 05 I love trains.
56:52 Sean Fennessey? You like train travel?
56:53 Speaker 07 Oh, I love trains.
56:54 Speaker 03 How could you not?
56:55 Speaker 05 You don't.
56:55 Speaker 03 We grew up in the Northeast.
56:56 Speaker 05 That's one of the things I miss about the East Coast.
56:58 Sean Fennessey? I spent a lot of time on trains, I think. I think I feel like I.
57:00 Speaker 05 The Acela Express?
57:01 Sean Fennessey? Between the Long Island Railroad, the subway, the path train, I've kind of, I've done my time.
57:06 Speaker 03 You do a lot of path training in your life?
57:07 Sean Fennessey? Sure, plenty. I worked in Weehawken, New Jersey.
57:11 Speaker 03 There's always a hidden chapter with you, man.
57:13 Speaker 06 I took the train from New Orleans to LA.
57:16 Speaker 03 To get out here?
57:17 Speaker 05 Oh, wow.
57:17 Speaker 06 Yeah.
57:17 Sean Fennessey? New Orleans, how long did that take?
57:19 Speaker 06 Forty eight hours.
57:20 Speaker 05 With like a bindle and like a whole thing?
57:23 Speaker 06 It's hanging out.
57:24 Sean Fennessey? No sleep car?
57:24 Speaker 06 No sleep car.
57:25 Speaker 03 Just hanging out.
57:27 Sean Fennessey? Was this in nineteen oh two? When did you do this?
57:29 Speaker 06 When I came out to LA.
57:30 Speaker 03 I could see you doing very well on the train. A lot of conversations.
57:34 Speaker 06 A lot of conversations.
57:35 Speaker 05 You love to ride the rails.
57:36 Speaker 06 Observation car. We would get off so that when the train stops and it connects in Texas, you're in San Antonio. So you gotta stay there for like four hours. So always like on a Monday, you watch Monday night football. It's great.
57:47 Sean Fennessey? Was Wemby there?
57:48 Speaker 06 Wemby was not there. I don't know if he was born.
57:50 Speaker 03 It's your pick, brother.
57:52 Speaker 06 It's my pick.
57:56 Speaker 06 In original, I'm gonna take a movie that's off the beaten path, so I don't need to think about that. I don't care.
58:03 Speaker 06 In franchise film, I'm gonna go Iron Man 2.
58:08 Sean Fennessey? You know there are many rounds left.
58:11 Speaker 07 This is incredible.
58:13 Speaker 06 You know what?
58:14 Speaker 07 You love Mickey Rourke.
58:15 Speaker 06 I think it's unfairly maligned.
58:17 Sean Fennessey? Do you?
58:18 Speaker 06 I do. I think the Iron Man, I think the first three, I mean, I don't care about winning this fucking draft. I wanna talk about Mickey, Mickey Rourke as Whiplash.
58:27 Speaker 07 I will say in retrospect, like, when Marvel films got worse, you look back on Iron Man 2, you're like, oh, yeah. We did franchise or blockbuster.
58:36 Speaker 06 I did it in franchise.
58:38 Speaker 03 Isn't this Natasha's introduction to the?
58:40 Speaker 06 Introduces us to Natasha.
58:43 Speaker 07 Yeah, Happy's watching her change in the rearview mirror, remember?
58:47 Sean Fennessey? Not the original, the second War Machine.
58:49 Speaker 06 The second War Machine. Well, the second, no, kind of the original.
58:53 Speaker 07 Justin Hammer is in this one.
58:55 Speaker 06 So the second roadie, the original War Machine.
58:57 Sean Fennessey? He wasn't War Machine in the first time.
58:58 Speaker 06 Right, he wasn't War Machine in the original one. I recently caught it, and I was delighted to do so.
59:04 Speaker 07 Genuinely incredible.
59:06 Sean Fennessey? You might catch chlamydia.
59:08 Speaker 06 I recently caught the movie, damn it, and I thought the movie was, I like, I like it also, this reminds me.
59:14 Speaker 07 Is this where Leslie Bim met Sam Rockwell?
59:15 Sean Fennessey? Is that true?
59:16 Speaker 07 Is this their origin story?
59:17 Speaker 06 I think he's funny in it. This also is when, indicative of the time where Hollywood went, Mickey Rourke? Maybe we'll do it again.
59:27 Speaker 07 And then they were like, no.
59:28 Speaker 06 Nah.
59:29 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, they tried.
59:30 Speaker 07 Yeah.
59:30 Speaker 06 They tried. Well, the wrestler comes out, say, oh, let's do Mickey again. He's fucking crazy talented, which he is, but just.
59:36 Speaker 07 Also crazy.
59:37 Speaker 06 Also crazy.
59:38 Speaker 07 I have a lot of notes on the Monaco Grand Prix sequence now that I'm an F1 fan. Just gonna throw that out there.
59:43 Sean Fennessey? This is a real Jon Favreau, are we sure he's good situation for me. Got more than a few of these on the ledger.
59:49 Speaker 05 Well, this was a whole Jon Favreau did not want to make this movie so quickly, but they like locked him down, right as like the first Iron Man comes out. It's this massive success and they just like lock him down for Iron Man 2 and try to get it out as fast as possible. And like when you see the behind the scenes footage of Favreau on set, he just looks so tired and sad. And he's just sort of like, I've made a real devil's bargain.
1:00:11 Sean Fennessey? Two great, below the line contributors to this film. Do you know who the screenwriter of this movie is?
1:00:16 Speaker 06 No.
1:00:16 Sean Fennessey? Who's the sole credited screenwriter of Iron Man 2? No one knows who it is?
1:00:19 Speaker 05 Justin Theroux.
1:00:20 Sean Fennessey? Justin Theroux.
1:00:21 Speaker 05 Wow. I wrote a book.
1:00:24 Sean Fennessey? If you didn't know, that would have been a problem. The cinematographer of the film is Matthew Libetique, longtime Spike Lee collaborator.
1:00:32 Speaker 06 Was this Disney era or no?
1:00:35 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:00:35 Speaker 06 Disney had come in at this point?
1:00:36 Speaker 05 They were, yeah.
1:00:37 Speaker 06 Interesting.
1:00:41 Sean Fennessey? That was a choice.
1:00:44 Sean Fennessey? Is Rob up now?
1:00:45 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:00:46 Sean Fennessey? Rob's up.
1:00:48 Speaker 05 I'm scared you're gonna pick what I want.
1:00:49 Speaker 04 I came here to win the draft.
1:00:51 Speaker 05 Oh, okay.
1:00:51 Speaker 04 And to experience Anwee. And I am out of Anwee. I will be selecting somewhere in.
1:00:56 Speaker 05 I knew this was gonna happen. Right away, you're fucking her. I mean, I was planning to do it next. That, that feels spiteful and rude.
1:01:06 Sean Fennessey? I don't know how I didn't see it coming.
1:01:06 Speaker 06 It's a bit.
1:01:07 Speaker 05 This is why I asked everyone to set the over/under. No one engaged.
1:01:10 Speaker 04 I just didn't see it coming.
1:01:11 Speaker 05 He doesn't know how to be any other way.
1:01:13 Speaker 06 It's a bit.
1:01:14 Speaker 05 He doesn't know how to be any other way.
1:01:16 Speaker 04 I, I love this movie.
1:01:19 Speaker 05 Hey, Rob, me too.
1:01:21 Speaker 04 And I have to say, you're partially to blame. If you weren't such a strong advocate for your perspective on cinema.
1:01:27 Speaker 05 You're so welcome.
1:01:28 Speaker 04 You know, it really is a joy.
1:01:29 Speaker 05 What do you love about it, Rob?
1:01:32 Speaker 04 Honestly, first of all, is it weird that this movie makes me want to be a dad? Is that, is that a weird takeaway from something?
1:01:37 Speaker 05 No, they find each other.
1:01:39 Speaker 04 No, I am, I am a father of several kids.
1:01:42 Sean Fennessey? The girl dad movie.
1:01:43 Speaker 04 Incredible girl dad movie. Honestly, incredible Hollywood movie and more my speed. I find a lot of like movies about movies to be a lot, frankly. This one is so subdued. It is so like rolling its eyes at the whole process. It's a lot of like boring junkets and existential crises. And that's where I like to live personally.
1:02:00 Speaker 05 Which category did you pick?
1:02:01 Speaker 04 I'm gonna take it in.
1:02:05 Speaker 04 I'm taking it in comedy.
1:02:06 Speaker 03 Who plays the kid in this?
1:02:08 Amanda Dobbins? Somewhere, I don't think it's.
1:02:09 Speaker 04 El Fanny, like absolute star making stuff.
1:02:11 Speaker 03 I want to get you like.
1:02:13 Speaker 05 Challenge him.
1:02:13 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I.
1:02:15 Speaker 04 You don't think it's a comedy?
1:02:16 Amanda Dobbins? No.
1:02:17 Speaker 04 Okay, this movie.
1:02:18 Amanda Dobbins? I think parts of it are like this, this.
1:02:20 Speaker 04 Amanda.
1:02:20 Amanda Dobbins? Twin strippers are very funny.
1:02:22 Speaker 06 Hey, do you know who strippers are?
1:02:25 Speaker 06 Those are the Shannon Twins.
1:02:26 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:02:27 Speaker 06 And that's and like, and that's, and that movie. Hold on, hold on.
1:02:30 Amanda Dobbins? Go ahead.
1:02:31 Speaker 06 So those are, so look, so I'm watching that movie.
1:02:33 Speaker 05 I'm set.
1:02:34 Speaker 06 Those are the Shannon Twins. Those are the first time I had ever seen the Shannon Twins before. And I was like, whoa. That's the LA shit that I'm talking about.
1:02:44 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:02:44 Speaker 06 Now, they went on to do, you know who the Shannon Twins are?
1:02:47 Sean Fennessey? Tell us more.
1:02:48 Speaker 06 You guys don't know about the Shannon? This is TMZ shit. Well, they went on to, so you know the Blue Mountain?
1:02:53 Speaker 05 It's not porn addict shit, it's TMZ shit.
1:02:55 Speaker 06 It could be both.
1:02:56 Speaker 05 I don't think Sean denied it, he just deflected.
1:02:58 Speaker 06 He knows who they are.
1:03:01 Speaker 06 Then you know Sam Jones from Blue Mountain State?
1:03:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:05 Speaker 06 Okay, he went on to do a sex tape with one of the Shannon Twins, so you got even more.
1:03:10 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:03:11 Speaker 06 Yeah, so anyway, this is the first time I ever saw them.
1:03:12 Amanda Dobbins? And where are they now, the Shannon Twins?
1:03:14 Speaker 06 They ended up getting BBLs.
1:03:16 Amanda Dobbins? Oh.
1:03:16 Speaker 06 And so they changed a little bit.
1:03:18 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:03:18 Speaker 06 But that's the first time I ever, like, that's the, that's the first time I ever saw them was in that movie.
1:03:23 Speaker 05 Did everyone? I would have, they ended up getting BBLs on their bingo card of what we were talking about.
1:03:29 Speaker 06 What?
1:03:30 Speaker 05 And but they haven't had them on.
1:03:31 Speaker 06 They had had them when they were, when they were in that movie.
1:03:33 Amanda Dobbins? No, no, no, in that movie, but, but people are undoing the BBLs now.
1:03:37 Speaker 06 Oh, then I don't know if they've gotten, I haven't seen them in a while.
1:03:40 Speaker 05 Does one dissolve a BBL?
1:03:42 Amanda Dobbins? I don't actually know about them.
1:03:43 Speaker 05 Or extract it.
1:03:44 Speaker 06 I think it depends on what kind of BBL it is.
1:03:49 Speaker 05 I'm back, I'm backing Amanda, this is not a comedy.
1:03:52 Speaker 06 That's not a comedy in any way, shape or form.
1:03:54 Speaker 03 The movie opens with them doing a dual strip dance to My Hero, There Goes My Hero.
1:03:59 Speaker 06 It's not, it's not a comedy.
1:04:00 Sean Fennessey? Somewhere.
1:04:01 Speaker 04 What?
1:04:01 Sean Fennessey? According to Wikipedia, Somewhere is a 2010 drama film.
1:04:05 Speaker 05 Okay.
1:04:05 Amanda Dobbins? So you're taking it in wild card?
1:04:06 Speaker 04 I will take it in original instead.
1:04:08 Sean Fennessey? Original, it is.
1:04:09 Speaker 03 I'm sure that there's nobody in this movie that is based on some real.
1:04:12 Sean Fennessey? It says it is based on the real life adventures of the Shannon Twins.
1:04:17 Speaker 07 Isn't this like at least semi autobiographical?
1:04:20 Amanda Dobbins? But not enough to disqualify it.
1:04:22 Sean Fennessey? I agree.
1:04:24 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
1:04:24 Sean Fennessey? Inspired by.
1:04:25 Speaker 07 That's actually helpful for another pick.
1:04:27 Speaker 06 It's a contemporary story about the daughter of a man.
1:04:30 Amanda Dobbins? There's another one where this was like, it was in the Mickey Rourke era and they were like, it's gonna, it's gonna happen for Stephen Dorff to be back.
1:04:36 Speaker 06 They kept Dorff was right there.
1:04:36 Amanda Dobbins? I know.
1:04:37 Speaker 06 Dorff and he just never like.
1:04:38 Amanda Dobbins? No, I got the teacup scene under the water at the chateau.
1:04:42 Speaker 05 They tried to read Dorff again with that True Detective season.
1:04:46 Speaker 06 It's really good.
1:04:46 Amanda Dobbins? Julian Casablanca solo material is where you and I.
1:04:49 Speaker 06 Dorff is just fucking cool. Like Dorff has been.
1:04:51 Amanda Dobbins? You know what?
1:04:52 Sean Fennessey? I think he's a little self-defeating.
1:04:54 Amanda Dobbins? Not a lot to mention. What's the other, what's the really good song? So how could it be?
1:04:58 Sean Fennessey? Very talented.
1:05:00 Amanda Dobbins? You know that song? It came on the other day and I thought of you because it's a dynamite song.
1:05:04 Sean Fennessey? What was happening there?
1:05:05 Amanda Dobbins? Because Rob and I believe in Julian Casablanca's solo projects, not voids, just the solo album.
1:05:12 Speaker 04 Yeah. It's like a six-track, all bangers, no skit situation.
1:05:15 Amanda Dobbins? And I should have known because I know he also loves.
1:05:18 Sean Fennessey? Julian Casablanca as a former music journalist.
1:05:20 Amanda Dobbins? You asked a question and I'm giving you the answer. So that's how we're fucking.
1:05:24 Sean Fennessey? Hit me with a Rob and I. All right. I'm glad you guys found Union after he just shanked you in the chest.
1:05:29 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. No, I was saying I should have known because he loves I'll Try Anything Once.
1:05:32 Speaker 04 It would have just been fucking.
1:05:34 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, you guys are kind of, you guys were a little cold on somewhere, which is you like last time.
1:05:39 Sean Fennessey? It's not my favorite.
1:05:40 Amanda Dobbins? I know. You're just like, I've seen an Antonio Yoni film before, which is like, okay, congratulations. So I appreciate.
1:05:46 Speaker 04 I didn't know each other back then. How do you know?
1:05:49 Amanda Dobbins? I.
1:05:49 Sean Fennessey? We've had many associated conversations over the years.
1:05:51 Amanda Dobbins? I appreciate that Rob.
1:05:52 Sean Fennessey? It's not, I like it. It's not bad.
1:05:53 Amanda Dobbins? Sees her work.
1:05:54 Speaker 04 True. Plus I am a man of a certain age wandering around LA.
1:05:58 Speaker 06 Hey, man. It looks like the Shannon Twins got the BBLs taken out.
1:06:01 Amanda Dobbins? No. Well, I was gonna paint that picture, but luckily I have.
1:06:04 Speaker 06 I didn't realize this. It looked like, it looked, it looked like the Shannon.
1:06:08 Sean Fennessey? Guys, cross talk, I guess, complicated.
1:06:10 Speaker 06 I'm sorry.
1:06:11 Speaker 05 Okay. Sorry. We were getting an update on BBLs. Have they been dissolved?
1:06:13 Speaker 06 It looks like they got the BBLs taken out the Shannon Twins.
1:06:16 Amanda Dobbins? I see. I told you that's happening. That's what, that's what they're doing.
1:06:19 Speaker 06 In certain parts of the culture.
1:06:20 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. Right.
1:06:21 Sean Fennessey? There's a camera literally over your shoulder.
1:06:23 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:06:23 Sean Fennessey? So be careful with what you're pulling out.
1:06:25 Speaker 05 Oh, you cannot dissolve a BBL.
1:06:27 Speaker 03 They should do that on a.
1:06:28 Amanda Dobbins? It's a removal?
1:06:29 Speaker 05 Extraction situation.
1:06:30 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. Because what is?
1:06:32 Speaker 06 Well, it depends on what kind of BBL though.
1:06:34 Amanda Dobbins? Well, yeah.
1:06:34 Speaker 06 You get the fat transfer and like, you know, that's like kind of not.
1:06:37 Amanda Dobbins? Sure.
1:06:37 Speaker 06 Then there's implants, but like the Shannon Twins look like they.
1:06:40 Amanda Dobbins? They got the implants removed?
1:06:41 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:06:42 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
1:06:43 Sean Fennessey? Okay, man, you have a choice.
1:06:45 Speaker 04 So what category did you just take that in, Rob?
1:06:47 Speaker 03 I took it in original, yes.
1:06:48 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:06:49 Speaker 03 Because he got bullied out of comedy, just like I got bullied out of.
1:06:51 Speaker 04 It's an extremely gony movie. I don't know what to say.
1:06:53 Sean Fennessey? No one was bullied.
1:06:54 Speaker 03 Let's, we'll find out when we get to your originals.
1:06:56 Amanda Dobbins? It's funny, but not a comedy.
1:06:57 Speaker 03 Your comedy.
1:06:58 Amanda Dobbins? Unless it's about the comedy of the.
1:07:00 Speaker 05 He chose a movie he hated to avoid just such occurrence, so.
1:07:03 Amanda Dobbins? Uh.
1:07:04 Sean Fennessey? Hate it?
1:07:05 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, so I obviously was gonna take somewhere in original next. And I was gonna do it next because I knew Rob would be lurking. I just didn't think he would have the guts and I kind of salute you. So.
1:07:16 Amanda Dobbins? What we learned from this is go with your heart.
1:07:18 Speaker 05 Oh, no.
1:07:19 Amanda Dobbins? So, but, oh, no. Oh, I didn't even think about that, but then you just started whining. So, oh, so now I have to go with my other heart. Okay.
1:07:30 Speaker 05 This is an incredible experience.
1:07:32 Amanda Dobbins? In comedy.
1:07:32 Speaker 05 Or making a frittata?
1:07:33 Amanda Dobbins? I'm taking Morning Glory.
1:07:35 Speaker 05 Yeah, or making a frittata.
1:07:36 Amanda Dobbins? You know what? I was not gonna do it until you said, oh, no. So I just want you to learn a lesson from this, which is keep it tight.
1:07:42 Speaker 03 Poker face.
1:07:43 Amanda Dobbins? Anyway.
1:07:43 Speaker 06 Keep it tight. That's a good lesson.
1:07:45 Amanda Dobbins? Morning Glory, an incredible 2010 romantic comedy. Written by Aline Bresch McKenna, who also wrote Devil Wears Prada, Twenty Seven Dresses.
1:07:53 Speaker 06 Shout out to the homie.
1:07:54 Amanda Dobbins? This stars Rachel McAdams as a aspiring, well, she is a national news producer.
1:08:02 Speaker 05 Who else is in this movie?
1:08:03 Amanda Dobbins? Of the third ranked morning show. And, and this is at a time, unlike in Disclosure Day, where broadcast news still mattered.
1:08:11 Speaker 05 Thank you.
1:08:12 Amanda Dobbins? And she is producing a morning show starring Diane Keaton. She recruits Harrison Ford.
1:08:18 Speaker 05 Yep.
1:08:18 Amanda Dobbins? The old anchor back. He is curmudgeonly and then ultimately he's not and he makes a frittata. And then also exposes some local corruption. And Patrick Wilson is there being very handsome. Really, really good movie that is undersung, so.
1:08:36 Speaker 05 It's, it's like, it's, it's sort of huffing working girls, like, you know?
1:08:41 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:08:41 Speaker 05 But, but it works. It's really good.
1:08:43 Amanda Dobbins? Even though I rewatched it recently, I just watched the frittata scenes recently. And he says it that way the whole time.
1:08:49 Speaker 05 He does, yep.
1:08:50 Amanda Dobbins? And she is wearing a ball gown, not a ball gown, I'm sorry, it's a cocktail dress because it is just below the to her job interview at the Today Show.
1:08:58 Speaker 07 It's tough.
1:08:59 Amanda Dobbins? Which is, she wears a little cardigan over it, but
1:09:01 Speaker 07 And she has to run in it.
1:09:02 Amanda Dobbins? Right, well, and you understand that they've chosen this dress, so they have the montage of her running in real New York, where it is filmed, with the dress switching, and she looks very pretty. This is also one of the reasons that then Rachel McAdams gave that lovely tribute today in Keaton at the Academy Awards this year, which is very nice, because they work together. They also work together on Family Stone, which I had forgotten.
1:09:25 Amanda Dobbins? Underrated in its own way, but not released in 2010, so morning glory in comedy it is.
1:09:29 Speaker 07 Great, that's not what I had in mind.
1:09:30 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. It's fine.
1:09:33 Speaker 04 No frittatas for you.
1:09:34 Speaker 07 But I always welcome a Harrison Ford selection.
1:09:36 Amanda Dobbins? Deny, deny.
1:09:38 Speaker 07 Now I am scared that Sean's gonna take what I want, though, actually, genuinely.
1:09:42 Sean Fennessey? I have no idea what you're gonna take.
1:09:47 Sean Fennessey? I'm not quite sure where to go.
1:09:49 Speaker 07 Is it because you can't take a movie you hate and would give six out of 10 to?
1:09:52 Sean Fennessey? You're using the word hate. You're like Palpatine, you know, it's flowing through you.
1:09:56 Speaker 07 Unlimited power!
1:09:58 Sean Fennessey? I do that to Alice all the time now, and she loves it.
1:10:01 Speaker 07 Incredible.
1:10:02 Sean Fennessey? Unlimited power!
1:10:05 Speaker 06 That's very scary.
1:10:06 Sean Fennessey? It is very, she thinks it's hysterical.
1:10:09 Sean Fennessey? Okay. In comedy, I will be taking The Other Guys.
1:10:15 Speaker 03 Fucker.
1:10:16 Sean Fennessey? Which is
1:10:17 Speaker 07 That hurts, Chris.
1:10:18 Sean Fennessey? The last true Adam McKay comedy, this is right before the big pivot to the socially minded. I would argue, though, this is the beginning of the socially minded movies that he makes. This is a comedy starring Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg, and historical performances also showing us the hideous nature of capitalism, thanks to Steve Coogan's character, who is an evil banker.
1:10:42 Sean Fennessey? Incredible Michael Keaton performance in this movie.
1:10:46 Sean Fennessey? Five of the best minutes you'll ever see from The Rock and Sam Jackson, the jump off the building is
1:10:50 Speaker 06 Legitimately hysterical.
1:10:51 Sean Fennessey? So funny.
1:10:51 Speaker 03 It's hard to, the, the, the like outtakes of Eva Mendes scenes are just like some of the best.
1:10:59 Sean Fennessey? Who is that? Who is she?
1:11:01 Speaker 07 Are you allowed to talk about her into a microphone? She's one of your Alzheimer's.
1:11:04 Speaker 03 She's, she's a goat.
1:11:06 Sean Fennessey? She's like, this is one of her very last screen performances.
1:11:08 Speaker 03 I know.
1:11:09 Sean Fennessey? She doesn't do a lot of movies after this.
1:11:10 Speaker 03 But like, she's like, when she's, he's like, honey, I can't believe you're dressed in like that slop.
1:11:18 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:11:19 Speaker 06 That scene might be some of Mark Wahlberg's best acting.
1:11:22 Sean Fennessey? He's so funny. Yeah. Reacting to her entering the room is some of the best stuff he's ever done.
1:11:26 Speaker 03 What's going on? I don't understand.
1:11:28 Sean Fennessey? Who is that?
1:11:30 Speaker 06 No, seriously.
1:11:31 Speaker 03 It's the old ball and chain.
1:11:32 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:11:36 Sean Fennessey? And this does feel like kind of getting close to the end of this era of movies, not just for McKay, but for this whole cohort of yap-tow guys.
1:11:43 Speaker 06 What was the last one? Was it 22 Jump Street?
1:11:45 Speaker 03 I mean, Get Him to the Greeks, the tombstone, right?
1:11:47 Speaker 06 22 Jump Street, Get Him to the Greek, you could argue.
1:11:50 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:11:51 Speaker 06 Neighbors, maybe? Like.
1:11:52 Sean Fennessey? Neighbors is a good one.
1:11:53 Speaker 06 Like, all of that stuff starts to fade away and those guys are gone after that.
1:11:55 Sean Fennessey? Neighbors is what, like?
1:11:56 Speaker 07 I like Neighbors 2.
1:11:56 Sean Fennessey? 2013?
1:11:58 Speaker 06 Neighbors is fucking hell.
1:11:59 Speaker 07 Neighbors 2.
1:12:00 Speaker 06 Oh, with the sorority girls?
1:12:02 Speaker 07 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:04 Sean Fennessey? You wanted it to center women. You thought Neighbors should center the female perspective?
1:12:09 Speaker 07 Definitely.
1:12:09 Speaker 06 You like it.
1:12:10 Speaker 07 I definitely want to go to Neighbors 2 for.
1:12:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:12:13 Sean Fennessey? So, yeah, that's it. The other, that's not what you were worried about.
1:12:15 Speaker 07 No, I'm gonna, I get to pick both the movies I want to pick here. I'm excited.
1:12:18 Speaker 03 Cool.
1:12:19 Speaker 07 Okay.
1:12:20 Sean Fennessey? Be normal about it. You said, we recorded with you an hour ago and you were like, I'm gonna be totally chill.
1:12:27 Speaker 07 I am chill.
1:12:28 Speaker 03 She says that before every draft.
1:12:29 Speaker 07 Remember when you said?
1:12:30 Speaker 03 I'm chill.
1:12:30 Speaker 07 I get to pick this feeling.
1:12:31 Speaker 03 I pick Social Network.
1:12:32 Speaker 07 Everyone agreed it was a good pick.
1:12:34 Speaker 03 In front of cameras.
1:12:34 Sean Fennessey? I stand by it.
1:12:35 Speaker 07 I've waited an hour to make my second pick and now I'll do so very calmly. Um, with my second pick,
1:12:44 Speaker 07 I will be selecting my original. I'm thrilled to select Blue Valentine. I will be celebrating Cunnilingus here in the second round. One of the most memorable scenes in movie history and also a movie.
1:12:55 Speaker 03 What did I take away from Blue Valentine?
1:12:56 Speaker 07 About how falling in love and lust is exciting and being married is often quite hard. This is a movie that I think about often.
1:13:06 Speaker 03 You love a divorce.
1:13:06 Speaker 07 Yes, I really do love this movie. This is one of my favorite movies of the year, just incredible performances from Michelle Williams and Ryan Gosling. And then I'm really excited to pick another one of my genuinely favorite movies from this year. I'm gonna take Kick Ass as my comedy on the turn here. I love Kick Ass. That movie rules. It is incredibly, incre-
1:13:27 Speaker 07 Incredibly violent, incredibly comic.
1:13:30 Speaker 06 Hard to watch.
1:13:30 Speaker 07 Heightened, disturbing, riveting. It's a great genre film that is not actually eligible in original, to be clear, but is very original in its spirit, even though it is part of a franchise. And I love that film.
1:13:45 Speaker 04 Probably very influential in like James Gunn stuff.
1:13:48 Speaker 07 Definitely.
1:13:48 Speaker 04 The Boys.
1:13:49 Sean Fennessey? Deadpool.
1:13:50 Speaker 04 Deadpool.
1:13:50 Speaker 07 Definitely.
1:13:50 Speaker 06 For sure, yeah.
1:13:51 Speaker 07 Hyper violent, kind of like rude, graphic. Forget the R rating, let's go into NC seventeen territory. And one of many, Nick Cage.
1:14:01 Speaker 06 Oh.
1:14:01 Speaker 07 Oh.
1:14:02 Speaker 06 He never leaves us.
1:14:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:14:03 Speaker 06 He pops back, he pops back in to check in on us.
1:14:05 Speaker 07 Oh, Nick Cage.
1:14:06 Speaker 06 Yeah, Nick Cage, he can do it.
1:14:07 Speaker 04 Don't act so surprised. This is like you're being very rude about it.
1:14:10 Speaker 07 No, it's just sometimes you're like, huh.
1:14:12 Speaker 06 You're taking off for him.
1:14:13 Speaker 04 I'm here for all Cage, Sorcerer's Apprentice, whatever, let's do it.
1:14:16 Speaker 07 Don't wait for your. The Nick Cage movies I've seen. Still waiting for your Spider Noir thoughts, by the way.
1:14:21 Speaker 04 Look, it's a busy time. I've had many twenty ten movies to watch.
1:14:24 Speaker 06 I think it's a good show. Yeah, I think it's a good show.
1:14:26 Speaker 07 Same.
1:14:26 Speaker 06 By the way, this, this guy that Ryan Gosling was during this time, I thought that he would be that guy forever.
1:14:32 Sean Fennessey? This was my favorite actor in the universe.
1:14:33 Speaker 06 Like, I, I thought that the, the, the, the Place Beyond the Pines, Blue Valentine, dry version of Ryan Gosling. I thought that was gonna be Ryan Gosling. And then Ryan went, nah, not too much. Let me sun it up a little bit. And he's been kind of drifting back and forth.
1:14:48 Sean Fennessey? He did Nice Guys and then he took a lot of time off.
1:14:50 Speaker 06 Yeah, he did, but, but like that dude was deadly coolest, the coolest motherfucker in the entire time. Yeah.
1:14:57 Speaker 07 This was also, this was in like internet boyfriend, this was Hey Girl era, right? Yeah. Do you remember this?
1:15:05 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:15:05 Speaker 07 It was really powerful stuff.
1:15:07 Speaker 04 The fact that Blue Valentine might have inspired Hey Girl, we were, we were adrift.
1:15:11 Speaker 07 No, it was Lars and the Real Girl.
1:15:13 Speaker 06 Lars and the Real Girl, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:15:15 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:15:15 Speaker 07 But.
1:15:16 Sean Fennessey? I, I'm holding my Derek C. and France stock and I will be holding it in perpetuity. One of my, one of my favorite writers.
1:15:21 Speaker 04 I got you, brother.
1:15:22 Sean Fennessey? He just.
1:15:23 Speaker 04 I'm backstopping your, your investment.
1:15:24 Sean Fennessey? If we, if we just put Gosling in Roof Man, what is Roof Man goes crazy.
1:15:28 Speaker 04 But you know what? Everybody, nobody even knows, he, he's still cooking off those Dick's Sporting Goods ads. Remember how goaded those were?
1:15:35 Sean Fennessey? I do.
1:15:35 Speaker 07 Hell, yeah.
1:15:36 Sean Fennessey? Derek C. and France, yeah. Yeah, I had breakfast at the CNF once, just magical shit. He was just like, it's all about the soul. Just looking me right in the eyes, dead serious. Like, I was like, don't you know I'm an irony poisoned millennial weirdo? And he was like, no, listen.
1:15:48 Speaker 05 Did he make you live in a house with him for a month before you had breakfast together?
1:15:51 Sean Fennessey? We got married, divorced, remarried. Yeah, so I'm currently a bigamist.
1:15:56 Speaker 04 I love him too.
1:15:57 Speaker 05 Fassbender recently told a story about how he, you know, he and Alicia Vikander like hooked up on the Derek C. and Fran set and how he used to like, Derek put his trailer here, Michael Fassbender's was here and Alicia Vikander was here. And he just used to sneak out at night to like fuck her wildly and then go back to his trailer in the morning.
1:16:13 Amanda Dobbins? Wow, good for him.
1:16:15 Sean Fennessey? Some light between oceans.
1:16:16 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, that was the Lighthouse movie?
1:16:17 Speaker 05 Yeah, they all had to live together for that one too.
1:16:19 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, well, that one is sort of you're on a remote location. That's the whole gist of the movie. Good sweaters in that one.
1:16:26 Sean Fennessey? Who wouldn't fall in love and create a family and stay together forever after making The Light Between Oceans?
1:16:31 Speaker 05 A film for our time.
1:16:32 Sean Fennessey? Yep. Uh, my turn?
1:16:36 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:16:36 Sean Fennessey? You have Blue Valentine and what was the second pick?
1:16:38 Speaker 05 Kick Ass.
1:16:38 Sean Fennessey? Kick Ass, of course.
1:16:39 Speaker 05 So I have, yeah, I took Blue Valentine as original and Kick Ass as comedy.
1:16:43 Sean Fennessey? Okay. Hmm hmm hmm hmm.
1:16:46 Speaker 05 Long time until it comes back to me.
1:16:48 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, that's how I feel. I'm halfway between them. I feel great about my first three, but round four is a long time from now.
1:16:53 Sean Fennessey? I think I'm going to take an Oscar nominee, the Australian crime drama Animal Kingdom.
1:17:01 Speaker 05 I almost took this.
1:17:02 Speaker 03 Fucking come on, Sean!
1:17:03 Speaker 05 I almost took this.
1:17:04 Speaker 04 Just a sick movie.
1:17:05 Sean Fennessey? Written and directed by David Michaud, starring Joel Edgerton, Ben Mendelsohn, Guy Pearce, and the Oscar nominated Jackie Weaver, Best Supporting Actress.
1:17:14 Speaker 04 Do you know what I was gonna, can I just tell you what I was gonna do with this?
1:17:16 Sean Fennessey? You can do.
1:17:16 Speaker 04 This was gonna be my franchise.
1:17:18 Speaker 05 That's one, I, this is one of the questions I texted him about. Could it be a franchise film?
1:17:21 Sean Fennessey? Part of the reason why I'm taking it is because I knew there would be some interest in it in multiple categories, but it's also, it's an awesome, it's one of the great crime movies of the 21st century.
1:17:27 Speaker 05 It's fantastic.
1:17:29 Speaker 04 Can we clarify the franchise point? Like, is this eligible for franchise?
1:17:32 Sean Fennessey? I think so. I, I, I, did I say yes question?
1:17:34 Speaker 04 It's IP. They made like a long running TNT series on this.
1:17:38 Sean Fennessey? They did, yeah.
1:17:38 Speaker 04 I just know the big picture can be very small minded about television sometimes, and I just want to respect it as.
1:17:43 Sean Fennessey? But big screen minded.
1:17:45 Speaker 05 Yes.
1:17:47 Sean Fennessey? I'm taking an Oscar nominee.
1:17:49 Speaker 03 Jackie Weaver.
1:17:50 Sean Fennessey? Jackie Weaver.
1:17:52 Speaker 07 Great movie.
1:17:52 Sean Fennessey? Shot by Adam Arkapaw. This is, this is a great, great movie that I think is like a little, kind of going under the radar now. I think this show maybe has not elevated the way that some people thought he would as a filmmaker. But I'm a huge fan of this movie.
1:18:06 Speaker 03 Mendelssohn's out of his mind in this. He's so good.
1:18:09 Speaker 05 This was like a big, like Ben Mendelsohn, Joel Anderson, like.
1:18:12 Sean Fennessey? That generation of Australian filmmakers is kind of coming to the fore at this time. Yeah, for sure. And Nash, his brother, and a bunch of other people popping at this time.
1:18:20 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:18:21 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:18:22 Speaker 07 Damn it. That was tough for you.
1:18:24 Sean Fennessey? Amanda, you ready?
1:18:24 Amanda Dobbins? Yes, and Rob Mahoney is lurking, so I will now do my other heart, as previously referenced in original. I'm gonna take Greenberg.
1:18:34 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:18:35 Amanda Dobbins? The Noah Baumbach film about a very angry man who writes letters because he can't connect with other people. And I referenced this movie both in terms of letter writing. I don't actually write the letters. Some.
1:18:52 Speaker 05 Do you compose them?
1:18:53 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. In my head, I'm just like, if I were gonna do this. And, and it also brings me back from the edge. You know, like you don't want to be the Greenberg writing the letter.
1:19:00 Sean Fennessey? Well, you're, you got a little Greenberg in you.
1:19:02 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, of course.
1:19:03 Speaker 03 You're now a newsletter author, so.
1:19:04 Amanda Dobbins? And then, and then, that's true, one.
1:19:07 Sean Fennessey? That would be, that would be a nice, a good alternative to the Greenberg Diaries.
1:19:11 Speaker 03 To the management of Albertsons.
1:19:15 Speaker 03 Your aisles must be bigger.
1:19:17 Speaker 07 Amanda, did Greenberg inspire The Correspondent? What do you think? Have you read The Correspondent?
1:19:21 Amanda Dobbins? I haven't read The Correspondent.
1:19:21 Speaker 07 It's on your list, I know.
1:19:22 Amanda Dobbins? No, I know. Well, everyone like recommended it.
1:19:25 Speaker 07 It's quite good.
1:19:25 Amanda Dobbins? But I heard that it was very, it did a lot of crying.
1:19:30 Speaker 07 You'll, you will be sobbing.
1:19:32 Amanda Dobbins? And I'm not looking for that experience in my life right now.
1:19:35 Speaker 07 But it's also uplifting and affirming, but incredibly sad.
1:19:37 Amanda Dobbins? So I'm gonna do it. The other reason I reference this, I think of this movie all the time, is there's a scene when they're taking the Greta Gerwig character to get the abortion. And she says, can we go to In-N-Out afterwards? And Ben Stiller says, it's your day. And I, once a week, I'm like, I say it's your day a lot to other people and I don't think they know that I'm referencing that scene in Greenberg. I love it. But I am, I fully am. Always be Greenberg. Yeah, anyway, Baumak is one of my favorite filmmakers. It's been, you know, an up and down and interesting journey.
1:20:13 Sean Fennessey? On a text message between me, you and Tracy this week, I said, I will never, ever sell my Baumak.
1:20:19 Amanda Dobbins? And I will never sell it either, but I have found myself walking, I mean, I walked out of J. Kelly and was like, I miss Greenberg Baumak. And this is, this, and Margot at the Wedding are kind of the other end of the spectrum. There's like the very, you know, he's softened and opened his heart and that's, that's great in life and maybe not in movies, or at least not what I'm looking for in movies.
1:20:43 Sean Fennessey? Your day, no?
1:20:44 Amanda Dobbins? It is his day, but I find myself missing the Greenberg element.
1:20:48 Sean Fennessey? Awesome, super caustic.
1:20:49 Speaker 04 Does Jennifer Jason-Leigh have a story created on this movie? I believe she does.
1:20:53 Amanda Dobbins? I think so. Yeah, that one, I was dancing around that part a little bit. She does. Yeah.
1:20:58 Sean Fennessey? It's an incredible movie about hating Los Angeles, too. This guy fucking hates Los Angeles.
1:21:02 Amanda Dobbins? He does. And lives in the most incredible house.
1:21:04 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, yeah.
1:21:05 Amanda Dobbins? Which, you know, I get it.
1:21:07 Sean Fennessey? Still are making a Knicks documentary. Did you guys hear about that?
1:21:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:21:10 Amanda Dobbins? Congratulations.
1:21:11 Speaker 04 But you guys are just a team of the people, you know?
1:21:12 Speaker 05 See, that's coming out before the next season of Severance or after?
1:21:15 Sean Fennessey? Knicks in five.
1:21:16 Amanda Dobbins? Also, this trailer is not as big as the Social Network trailer for me, but this was with all my friends, L T Sound System, and I still think about that a lot. Anyway, very, very formative. Anyway. Incredible.
1:21:29 Speaker 04 Were you gonna take Greenberg? I was not gonna take Greenberg. This is not one for me. It's just kind of missed me for some reason.
1:21:33 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, well, you know, you're younger and full of hope, so that's good.
1:21:36 Speaker 04 I don't know, I did just take somewhere, so how full of hope could I be?
1:21:38 Amanda Dobbins? In comedy.
1:21:39 Sean Fennessey? Rob, you're up.
1:21:41 Speaker 04 I will be selecting a movie that, I don't know if any of you care about this movie, but it means a lot to me personally. To me, one of the funniest movies ever made, I will be selecting MacGruber.
1:21:51 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, my God. Okay.
1:21:52 Speaker 07 I love this movie. I do. Rob, I had this really high on my list.
1:21:56 Speaker 04 It is, I mean, speaking of perfect movies.
1:21:59 Speaker 07 Incredible.
1:22:00 Speaker 04 Show me a movie that has a better getting the gang together montage, better use of celery, better dude plowing his wife's ghost on her gravestone.
1:22:08 Speaker 07 Yes.
1:22:09 Speaker 04 I dare you to provide one. You can't.
1:22:12 Speaker 06 I had never seen this.
1:22:13 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:22:13 Speaker 06 And Jomie was like, Van, you've never seen MacGruber? I can't believe you've never seen MacGruber. So we put it on.
1:22:21 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:22:21 Speaker 06 I thought that movie was absolutely fucking terrible.
1:22:24 Speaker 04 What?
1:22:25 Speaker 07 How dare you.
1:22:27 Speaker 06 Believe how bad, like, so when you say getting the-
1:22:30 Speaker 04 Val Kilmer plays a villain named Dieter Von Kuntz.
1:22:33 Speaker 06 Like, when you-
1:22:33 Speaker 04 And you're telling me this is a bad movie?
1:22:34 Speaker 06 When, when you were talking about getting the gang together, that's like the wrestlers part, right?
1:22:39 Speaker 04 No, there's like a getting, I mean, I don't want to spoil the bit, but-
1:22:42 Speaker 06 Yeah, and they all get, they all get-
1:22:44 Speaker 04 His elite team.
1:22:44 Speaker 06 You might spoil MacGruber.
1:22:45 Speaker 04 I would never.
1:22:46 Speaker 06 And they all get, like, to me, I try, like, I, I had never seen MacGruber before. I had obviously seen the Saturday Night Live sketches.
1:22:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:22:53 Speaker 06 And I sat down like, okay, MacGruber, this is gonna be funny. Jomie said, Van, I cannot believe you haven't seen MacGruber. I tried to watch it. That shit was fucking ass to me. It was so terrible. I'm like, what did I miss about MacGruber? It's really not that funny.
1:23:07 Speaker 07 I stand by you, Rob.
1:23:08 Speaker 04 Man, thank you so much.
1:23:10 Speaker 07 Didn't they make a television show?
1:23:11 Speaker 04 They made a spin-off television show.
1:23:13 Speaker 06 That's right.
1:23:14 Speaker 07 So you guess it wasn't covered on the watch?
1:23:15 Speaker 04 I actually would like to select it in franchise.
1:23:17 Speaker 06 Oh, there you go.
1:23:18 Speaker 07 Not comedy, franchise.
1:23:19 Speaker 06 Hey.
1:23:20 Sean Fennessey? Never saw that coming, but I will allow it.
1:23:22 Speaker 04 But Van, this is hurtful. Every movie you have ever recommended to me is the most inception, six out of 10 movie I've ever seen in my life. And you're telling me that MacGruber is bad?
1:23:30 Speaker 06 So, the movies, the, the movies that I like, I tell you that they're bad and the reason is why. Like, the reason, the reason why I like them.
1:23:38 Speaker 04 Van knows.
1:23:38 Speaker 06 Well, I like movies for my own, like, so when someone, see, this deal, when someone suggests a movie to me.
1:23:45 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:23:46 Speaker 06 And it's a movie that they love, I kind of expect to love it. When someone tells me, oh, this is the most important movie you've ever seen before, it's about fucking- I'm gonna write a blog post about how I hate it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, whatever. But, and so Jomie did this-
1:23:57 Sean Fennessey? But you don't have a vendetta or anything. You're just, you're some honest commentator is what you're saying.
1:24:01 Speaker 06 I never have vendetta.
1:24:02 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:24:03 Speaker 06 I'm not a vendetta guy.
1:24:04 Speaker 07 He just tells the truth.
1:24:05 Speaker 06 I just tell the truth.
1:24:05 Sean Fennessey? Truth teller.
1:24:06 Speaker 06 And then, like, when I, when I watch that, I'm like, this is just not that funny. Like, I just, I, I really wish that I would have thought that MacGruber was funny.
1:24:11 Speaker 04 It's okay, it's for us.
1:24:12 Sean Fennessey? This is the magic of cinema, guys.
1:24:14 Speaker 07 Good time to remind him that he took Iron Man 2 in the second.
1:24:16 Speaker 04 I feel great about it. We can do franchise battle anytime you want.
1:24:21 Speaker 05 Van, where are you on Jackass?
1:24:23 Speaker 06 I like it.
1:24:24 Speaker 04 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
1:24:26 Speaker 05 Don't, don't.
1:24:27 Speaker 06 It's funny to me, but once again, I'm real early with the Jackass guys. Those are my guys. You know.
1:24:32 Speaker 05 They both have to pick this round.
1:24:34 Sean Fennessey? CR.
1:24:34 Speaker 05 Either of them can take it.
1:24:35 Sean Fennessey? You have a pick, right?
1:24:35 Speaker 03 It's my turn?
1:24:37 Speaker 05 No, Van's up.
1:24:38 Sean Fennessey? Van's up, sorry.
1:24:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:24:39 Sean Fennessey? Van, your turn.
1:24:39 Speaker 05 Do we need, does Van need help with his microphone?
1:24:41 Amanda Dobbins? I just thought of a good Greenberg letter that I want to write to the, the parking structures here because I keep getting locked in the door, the doorways, like in the hallway.
1:24:50 Sean Fennessey? That's perfect.
1:24:51 Speaker 05 Do you have a fob?
1:24:52 Amanda Dobbins? And it's like a real fire hazard. Like I, I've been locked in the stairwell like five times. Well, how am I, how am I getting out of the parking structure?
1:25:00 Sean Fennessey? Dearest parking structure.
1:25:02 Amanda Dobbins? That's what I'm saying.
1:25:03 Sean Fennessey? I am without.
1:25:04 Amanda Dobbins? I've like been locked in the stairwell like five times.
1:25:08 Speaker 05 I think we need to.
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1:26:06 Speaker 06 I'm going in original. All right. And it's an easy choice for me.
1:26:11 Sean Fennessey? Okay. Shannon twin sex tape.
1:26:15 Speaker 06 That was also very good.
1:26:16 Sean Fennessey? Certainly some original content.
1:26:17 Speaker 06 It's directed by the Hughes Brothers, starring Denzel Washington, The Book of Eli.
1:26:24 Speaker 05 Wow, amazing.
1:26:25 Speaker 03 That's not based on a graphic novel?
1:26:27 Speaker 06 No.
1:26:27 Speaker 05 It's not based on the Bible?
1:26:29 Speaker 03 Wow.
1:26:30 Sean Fennessey? Damn.
1:26:33 Speaker 07 Just pivot to a different category, it's fine. You can stick with the pick.
1:26:36 Speaker 06 Um, no, cuz I don't think it's actually based on about this.
1:26:38 Speaker 07 It's not.
1:26:38 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:26:41 Speaker 06 I like The Book of Eli, man. Like, The Book of Eli is one of those movies that when I walked out of it, I was like, yo, that shit was crazy. And my boys was like, you being serious right now? It was like you, I thought it was, I, I love.
1:26:55 Speaker 03 It was your MacGruber.
1:26:56 Speaker 06 It's, it's my MacGruber. A lot of people like MacGruber, but like, I liked The Book of Eli. I thought it was a weirdly serious movie with great actors in it. And, um, the girl from That 70's Show. They had.
1:27:10 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:27:11 Sean Fennessey? Mila Kunis.
1:27:11 Speaker 06 Like, Mila Kunis, yeah. You, you have.
1:27:14 Speaker 07 Say her name.
1:27:15 Speaker 06 You, you have, uh, Gary, Gary Oldman? You fucking Gary Oldman and Denzel Washington in the movie. In a post-apocalyptic movie about a blind man who's trying to get a bible to the west coast. I like, I watch it every time.
1:27:28 Speaker 03 And he has a dog, right? In that movie?
1:27:30 Speaker 06 I don't think he has a dog.
1:27:31 Speaker 03 Or is that I, I think you're thinking of I Am Legend.
1:27:33 Speaker 07 I am Legend.
1:27:33 Speaker 06 Yeah, Al Diaz have a dog.
1:27:35 Speaker 07 Boy. Brutal.
1:27:37 Sean Fennessey? Is there a dog in there? There's an incredible Van-ism that I, I've come to understand very clearly.
1:27:44 Speaker 06 What?
1:27:44 Sean Fennessey? Which is every time you are asked your opinion of a movie and you go, I liked it. That means everybody else hated it, but you liked it.
1:27:51 Speaker 03 I didn't hate it. I don't see how you can hate Book of Eli.
1:27:53 Sean Fennessey? Or you were like, most people are like, eh. And you, you, you are, you've come to defend.
1:27:58 Speaker 06 It's, it's funny.
1:27:59 Speaker 07 That's what, hey, what'd you think of Masters of the Universe?
1:28:01 Speaker 06 Loved it.
1:28:03 Sean Fennessey? That isn't what you said after the screening.
1:28:04 Speaker 06 It's not.
1:28:05 Sean Fennessey? That isn't, you were like, I liked it.
1:28:07 Speaker 07 I liked it.
1:28:07 Speaker 06 So, this is the deal. There are certain times with me where I just surrender to the narrative of a movie. And Book of Eli is, for some reason, I just took the movie seriously. Everyone's dead, they fucking trading ketchup packets in a post-apocalyptic town. And Gary Oldman wants to get a bible so he can control everybody's minds. I just thought, we don't want him to get the bible. I love the movie. So I'm taking it. Only movies I like.
1:28:32 Sean Fennessey? Wonderful, wonderful pick.
1:28:33 Speaker 07 I'm gonna share a very quick story for, for Van's appreciation and benefit. My husband Adam knew this draft was today. He knew the year. And when Joanna and I finished a podcast this morning, I looked at my phone and I had a text from Adam and it said this. "Just wanna make one last pitch." He had not made a previous one. "For a couple movies I really love, The Book of Eli and Tron Legacy."
1:28:56 Speaker 06 This is why, this is why he is my motherfucker. This is why.
1:29:01 Speaker 06 This is why this is my guy. By the way, I know that y'all are not gonna draft Tron. I'mma take that bitch.
1:29:08 Sean Fennessey? I might take Tron.
1:29:09 Speaker 07 I might take Tron. Adam is probably gonna vote for Vans.
1:29:11 Speaker 06 Like, I'm telling you, this is why he's my guy. Fun.
1:29:15 Sean Fennessey? I'm gonna have to take Tron. I'm just gonna have to take how these categories are shaping out.
1:29:16 Speaker 07 I know. God, it's getting thin.
1:29:18 Sean Fennessey? Uh, okay. Book of Eli off the board. CR, you're up.
1:29:20 Speaker 03 All right. Do you wanna talk about the possible trade?
1:29:22 Speaker 07 Are you guys really gonna do this? You're gonna trade?
1:29:25 Speaker 03 Let's at least talk it through. Let's talk it out. So... Shutter Island for Inception. What do I have to do to sweeten it since you took Inception second?
1:29:34 Speaker 06 Two movies?
1:29:34 Speaker 07 You have to flip, you have to flip your order in like multiple rounds. The second overall pick is...
1:29:39 Speaker 03 What, what if... I'm asking him. What if...
1:29:42 Speaker 06 You can't talk to a lady like that. You don't speak to her like that. Are you fucking crazy? Like, you can't, you...
1:29:49 Speaker 03 I'll speak to her however I want.
1:29:50 Speaker 06 Sisters are doing it by themselves.
1:29:52 Speaker 07 We go way back. We go way back.
1:29:53 Speaker 03 100%.
1:29:56 Sean Fennessey? Don't speak to her like that.
1:30:00 Sean Fennessey? We've become a little too familiar on this show.
1:30:03 Speaker 06 You don't talk to my sister that way.
1:30:06 Sean Fennessey? I'm, I'm, I'm not gonna... Let's just discuss this idea. I'm not, this isn't a pure offer. Animal Kingdom and Inception for Shutter Island and Unstoppable. Straight up.
1:30:16 Speaker 03 And can I move the categories that they were drafted in? So I have to take Animal Kingdom and Oscar.
1:30:21 Sean Fennessey? You would take...
1:30:21 Speaker 03 And I would have to take Inception in original or in blockbuster?
1:30:25 Speaker 07 Is that clean? Do you have...
1:30:27 Speaker 03 So you just wanna go two for two, basically, our drafts against one another?
1:30:31 Speaker 07 But you're a first and a second for his first and third, because he has a higher overall first.
1:30:34 Amanda Dobbins? Interesting.
1:30:35 Speaker 07 I don't think we've ever successfully traded. No.
1:30:37 Speaker 03 What's that?
1:30:38 Speaker 07 I don't think we've ever successfully traded, because there's too much spite.
1:30:42 Sean Fennessey? Now, we don't have to do it now. We can wait to see how the rest of the draft shakes out.
1:30:45 Speaker 03 I'm just surprised that you don't want...
1:30:46 Speaker 07 I don't know whether I agree with that. I actually don't think that that...
1:30:48 Amanda Dobbins? I think you do have to do it now.
1:30:49 Speaker 03 This is just you and me. This is all noise. It's just you and me.
1:30:52 Sean Fennessey? Based on what? I invented the rules of this game.
1:30:55 Speaker 06 I've never seen this side of Christmas before.
1:30:57 Sean Fennessey? You don't speak to her that way. Chris is shouting down every woman on this pod.
1:31:01 Speaker 06 Quiet bitch.
1:31:04 Speaker 03 No.
1:31:04 Speaker 06 The man are talking.
1:31:05 Speaker 03 Specifically with Mal. I, don't tell me how to talk to.
1:31:10 Speaker 07 There's a draft card with the value of each pick. That's all. That's how it works.
1:31:14 Speaker 03 So much space for Mal to, to, to.
1:31:17 Speaker 07 I support you endlessly. The picks can't just be swapped. There has to be value for her. That's all I'm into.
1:31:22 Speaker 03 I know what she's gonna do. She's gonna be the gatekeeper dungeon master, key master.
1:31:26 Speaker 07 Not at all. I think the trade would be very interesting.
1:31:29 Speaker 03 I'm telling you, I don't know how interested I am in doing full scale swaps. For as, for as jealous as I am about Animal Kingdom.
1:31:36 Speaker 06 You're honest.
1:31:37 Speaker 03 I think.
1:31:38 Sean Fennessey? And you love Inception.
1:31:38 Speaker 03 Shudder for Inception and would have.
1:31:41 Sean Fennessey? That's a bad, that's a bad value pick. That's not, that's not a good value.
1:31:44 Speaker 06 You don't trade Inception for Shutter Island?
1:31:46 Sean Fennessey? I'm not gonna do that. I could've just taken Shutter Island. That doesn't make sense.
1:31:48 Speaker 06 Ah, pick swap is, oh.
1:31:51 Sean Fennessey? A pick swap?
1:31:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:31:52 Speaker 06 Oh.
1:31:53 Speaker 05 Mallory likes that less.
1:31:54 Speaker 06 Oh.
1:31:55 Sean Fennessey? Well, there's not as much value here at this point.
1:31:57 Speaker 03 What about future draft capital?
1:31:59 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. Inception for Shutter Island and a pick swap at this point in round four?
1:32:04 Speaker 03 Or the next time I get the number one pick, I automatically give it to you.
1:32:09 Sean Fennessey? No, we're not doing future swaps. So that's not eligible.
1:32:11 Speaker 06 I think that's awesome. That, now we have a little, now we got something cooking.
1:32:14 Sean Fennessey? I think Sean.
1:32:15 Speaker 06 It would be so awesome if in the next draft, like I held your number one from, from Sean Finney. That, now we're having fun.
1:32:22 Sean Fennessey? But then it makes the unpredetermined draft order a little bit more challenging. I don't, I don't, I don't wanna go into the future. I wanna stick in this draft. I wanna, I wanna do it like Leon Rose does it, you know? Player for player.
1:32:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:32:33 Sean Fennessey? How do we get OG here?
1:32:34 Speaker 03 He gave up five picks for Mikail Bridges.
1:32:36 Sean Fennessey? We're not talking about that right now.
1:32:37 Speaker 03 Financial doping based on secret payments made to Rick Brunson, right?
1:32:41 Sean Fennessey? No.
1:32:43 Sean Fennessey? I mean.
1:32:47 Speaker 07 Oh, that happened?
1:32:48 Speaker 03 Uh.
1:32:49 Speaker 07 Oh dear. Okay.
1:32:50 Speaker 03 It's rude for thought. It's rude for thought. And you know what? I just wanna say, I love you. And anytime you wanna chime in.
1:32:57 Speaker 07 A lot of feedback from other people with no commentary from you on their responses. Just observe with interest.
1:33:02 Speaker 03 Um, I'm gonna take Jackass 3D and comedy.
1:33:05 Speaker 06 Oh, that's a great one.
1:33:06 Speaker 07 Incredible.
1:33:07 Speaker 03 Uh, the other night, as I was preparing for this incredible draft.
1:33:13 Speaker 03 I, my wife heard me crying with laughter and she said, husband?
1:33:18 Speaker 05 And you're like, I'm watching somewhere.
1:33:19 Speaker 03 Husband, what is it?
1:33:23 Speaker 03 And I said, "Wife, I am watching Bam Margera fall through the floor into a pit of plastic snakes, and when he tries to climb out of this hole, a guy comes and starts dumping real snakes on him, and Bam Margera has a full-scale panic attack and starts crying."
1:33:44 Sean Fennessey? Great news. You're sitting on top of a trapdoor and below you.
1:33:49 Speaker 03 That's the next level for all of us.
1:33:51 Amanda Dobbins? I know.
1:33:53 Speaker 03 Do you think that Amanda would react well if we did the giant hand hitting her? How do we not have that in the office already?
1:34:00 Speaker 04 Or the hall of tasers, one of the two.
1:34:02 Speaker 03 I know, seriously. This movie also features...
1:34:05 Amanda Dobbins? Are you afraid of snakes?
1:34:07 Speaker 03 I haven't actually, I have never tested that theory.
1:34:10 Amanda Dobbins? How would you do?
1:34:11 Speaker 03 I don't find them scary on screen.
1:34:13 Amanda Dobbins? Do you like it when someone brings a snake out as like, you know?
1:34:16 Speaker 03 Got to admit, that's never happened. Like a snake handling creature?
1:34:20 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, you're getting at the photo of Alice meeting the snake?
1:34:21 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:34:22 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, she, so at our preschool end of year event last week, the preschool family keeps some snakes, and they show up late at the event every year, and they're large.
1:34:32 Sean Fennessey? We're chilling with some snakes on Friday.
1:34:33 Amanda Dobbins? I left.
1:34:34 Sean Fennessey? I held a snake on Friday.
1:34:34 Speaker 05 We had snakes as classroom pets growing up.
1:34:36 Speaker 03 I saw them.
1:34:37 Amanda Dobbins? These are bigger snakes.
1:34:38 Speaker 05 Oh, I just, yeah.
1:34:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, yeah. They're like, they're sort of like, bring me Spears when I'm in a snake, you know?
1:34:44 Speaker 03 Like the season three Euphoria snake? I think Raiders of the Lost Ark actually did a lot, worked against snakes, yeah. Anyway, this film also features Chris Pontius tying his penis to a remote control helicopter, and Knoxville bullfighting while wearing camouflage.
1:35:05 Sean Fennessey? My favorite piece of content from 2026 is Knoxville being interviewed and very sincerely talking about his relationship with bulls, and how he's no longer allowed to be near bulls because he loves them so much and loves the potentiality of being gored by them, so that to protect his mind, he can't go in the ring anymore.
1:35:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:35:23 Speaker 06 What's wrong with those guys?
1:35:24 Sean Fennessey? They have a lot of problems.
1:35:25 Speaker 06 I know, I'm just saying, like, what I'm saying is, like, obviously, they may, but like, they are really superhuman.
1:35:32 Speaker 03 Many of them are quite broken, yeah.
1:35:35 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:35:35 Sean Fennessey? They're great artists, though.
1:35:36 Speaker 03 Their bodies are broken, and they do it for us. A lot of CTE.
1:35:40 Speaker 06 No, they are, but like...
1:35:41 Amanda Dobbins? I forgot about that.
1:35:42 Speaker 06 Helicopter penis.
1:35:45 Sean Fennessey? How? This is so underrated.
1:35:46 Speaker 06 This reaction is like, ah!
1:35:48 Sean Fennessey? Ah!
1:35:50 Speaker 03 You're talking about one of the co-stars of Somewhere, not a comedy.
1:35:52 Sean Fennessey? That's exactly right.
1:35:53 Speaker 03 This is what I'm saying.
1:35:54 Sean Fennessey? What a year for Pontius.
1:35:55 Speaker 03 He apexed this year.
1:35:56 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:35:57 Speaker 03 So I'll take Jackass.
1:35:58 Sean Fennessey? Party Boy. Um...
1:36:00 Speaker 06 Party Boy is funny, man.
1:36:02 Sean Fennessey? Okay, so you have another pick or no?
1:36:04 Speaker 03 No, it goes to Joanna, two.
1:36:05 Sean Fennessey? Oh, I'm sorry.
1:36:06 Speaker 07 Five people have taken comedies already. Sheesh. Not Rob, though.
1:36:09 Sean Fennessey? Great comedy year.
1:36:10 Speaker 03 He tried to take it in Somewhere, they took it away from him.
1:36:12 Sean Fennessey? It did.
1:36:13 Speaker 07 Denied.
1:36:15 Sean Fennessey? Joanna Robinson.
1:36:16 Speaker 05 In original.
1:36:19 Speaker 05 This is a question I have. In original.
1:36:21 Sean Fennessey? Uh oh.
1:36:22 Speaker 05 I'd like to take the comedy easy A.
1:36:25 Amanda Dobbins? No, Shakespeare.
1:36:26 Sean Fennessey? Absolutely not.
1:36:26 Speaker 05 Scarlet Letter.
1:36:27 Amanda Dobbins? It's not Shakespeare's.
1:36:28 Sean Fennessey? It's not.
1:36:29 Speaker 05 But it's like inspired by, that's why I asked at the beginning. It's not The Scarlet Letter.
1:36:34 Amanda Dobbins? I think they-
1:36:35 Speaker 05 It's a Scarlet Letter's reference in the-
1:36:36 Amanda Dobbins? I think they say too much that that's like connected text.
1:36:40 Speaker 05 It's not based on The Scarlet Letter. It's not because you fuck the priest.
1:36:44 Amanda Dobbins? Take it as your comedy.
1:36:45 Speaker 05 It's not the story of The Scarlet Letter at all.
1:36:48 Sean Fennessey? I, it is.
1:36:49 Amanda Dobbins? It is.
1:36:49 Speaker 03 It's derivative of The Scarlet Letter.
1:36:51 Amanda Dobbins? And that's also, and that's like sets Will Gluck's whole career of just updating stuff until one night only, which-
1:36:58 Sean Fennessey? I, I hear you. You've mounted a very reasonable offense. Once again, look at the Wikipedia and see how quickly The Scarlet Letter is mentioned there.
1:37:06 Speaker 06 Let's look at it right now.
1:37:07 Sean Fennessey? The movie does not exist without The Scarlet Letter.
1:37:09 Speaker 06 This movie was inspired, partially inspired by the 1859 Scarlet-
1:37:12 Amanda Dobbins? Very Wikipedia-centric as well.
1:37:16 Amanda Dobbins? Scarlet Pimper?
1:37:16 Sean Fennessey? Scarlet Pimper?
1:37:18 Amanda Dobbins? Is Scarlet Pimper now?
1:37:19 Speaker 06 I love him.
1:37:19 Sean Fennessey? Um, I'm sorry to say.
1:37:23 Speaker 03 So you're gonna put it in comedy?
1:37:23 Amanda Dobbins? Take it in your comedy, yeah. It's a great pick here. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna think about it.
1:37:27 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:37:27 Speaker 06 You don't wanna do it now, you don't want to.
1:37:29 Sean Fennessey? Chris can speak more about Chris Pontius's penis if you'd like.
1:37:32 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:37:33 Speaker 03 I would, frankly. I would like.
1:37:34 Amanda Dobbins? Do the sound again.
1:37:35 Sean Fennessey? Ah!
1:37:39 Sean Fennessey? You did ask me this, or yesterday or no?
1:37:41 Speaker 05 No, no, I did not. But I loved that movie.
1:37:47 Amanda Dobbins? Incredible Emma Stone performance.
1:37:48 Speaker 05 It is.
1:37:48 Amanda Dobbins? It's also eligible in Oscar.
1:37:50 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:37:51 Amanda Dobbins? For that reason.
1:37:51 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:37:52 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, all right, listen, we're trying to support you while enforcing safe boundaries, you know, which is...
1:37:59 Speaker 05 Do you feel that Black Swan is too iterative of Swan Lake?
1:38:05 Sean Fennessey? I do.
1:38:05 Speaker 03 I feel it's too iterative of Perfect Blue, to be honest with you, but that's a different conversation.
1:38:09 Sean Fennessey? It's actually the same thing where without it, without Swan Lake, Black Swan does not exist.
1:38:13 Speaker 03 This is among my least favorite developments on this show.
1:38:14 Speaker 05 This category.
1:38:15 Speaker 03 You can't make a movie about art.
1:38:18 Speaker 05 Like, you can't make a movie about art? Like, if you make Shakespeare in Love, you're like, well, Romeo and Juliet's too involved in that.
1:38:24 Sean Fennessey? No, that would be okay.
1:38:25 Speaker 05 Are you kidding me?
1:38:26 Speaker 06 Shakespeare in Love would be okay?
1:38:28 Speaker 05 Shakespeare in Love would be okay?
1:38:29 Amanda Dobbins? Shakespeare in Love is not eligible.
1:38:31 Speaker 06 No, you can't. You said it can't be based on real people.
1:38:34 Speaker 05 It's unstoppable.
1:38:34 Speaker 06 You said it can't be based on real people.
1:38:36 Speaker 05 Come on.
1:38:36 Speaker 06 Who's Shakespeare's in it?
1:38:37 Amanda Dobbins? Even if it's historical fiction, what are you talking about? If you're gonna be a tyrant, at least be consistent.
1:38:44 Sean Fennessey? Watch how you speak to me.
1:38:48 Speaker 05 Incredible.
1:38:51 Amanda Dobbins? Believe it or not, Black Swan was not nominated for Best Screenplay, so we won't know in what category.
1:39:00 Amanda Dobbins? Let's see, was it a Golden Globe, maybe?
1:39:02 Speaker 03 Did Darren pin that one himself?
1:39:05 Speaker 05 I prob... Hold on, let's see. Easy A in Black Swan, good picks on the turn here.
1:39:09 Amanda Dobbins? Those are great picks.
1:39:10 Speaker 05 Good picks on the turn in other categories. I'll think about it, I'll think about it, I have other questions for you.
1:39:14 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:39:14 Amanda Dobbins? He did not. Let's see, Black Swan script nominees, keep... I'm sorry, I'm just trying to fill and support you.
1:39:21 Speaker 05 No, I feel supported.
1:39:22 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:39:23 Speaker 05 Thank you so much.
1:39:26 Speaker 05 Would we...
1:39:32 Amanda Dobbins? Do you have this in your house also when, like, one person is trying to look up something on the phone or on the internet and... Or like fix something on the computer and the other person is just sitting right next to you telling you how to do it and where to click?
1:39:45 Speaker 03 That's how, the closest I've come to divorce.
1:39:47 Amanda Dobbins? Thank you.
1:39:47 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:39:47 Amanda Dobbins? I will not abide it. Get out of the room while I'm using the internet.
1:39:54 Speaker 05 Unbelievable.
1:39:56 Amanda Dobbins? He's just like, no, no, click here, no, what?
1:40:01 Amanda Dobbins? Thank God.
1:40:03 Speaker 03 You got it?
1:40:03 Amanda Dobbins? Very.
1:40:04 Speaker 05 Alright. Thank you so much for your patience.
1:40:06 Amanda Dobbins? We just, we filled some time.
1:40:08 Speaker 05 Thanks for ramping, I appreciate you. In comedy, I would like to take easy A.
1:40:12 Amanda Dobbins? Alright, great pick.
1:40:13 Speaker 07 It's a great pick!
1:40:15 Speaker 05 That feels condescending.
1:40:16 Speaker 03 Easy A!
1:40:18 Sean Fennessey? Well done.
1:40:18 Speaker 06 Emma Stone.
1:40:19 Speaker 03 Way to go, Joanna.
1:40:19 Sean Fennessey? Spirit of the game.
1:40:20 Amanda Dobbins? Deleting it?
1:40:24 Speaker 03 I'm an ally, don't say anything else, otherwise.
1:40:27 Speaker 05 In original, I will be taking the Angelina Jolie film Salt.
1:40:32 Speaker 03 No!
1:40:33 Amanda Dobbins? I thought Lobb's was gonna pick that! I mean, I had it in wildcard and it was backup for original. Listen!
1:40:38 Speaker 05 Original's a tough category.
1:40:40 Speaker 07 She's not a real person?
1:40:41 Amanda Dobbins? No.
1:40:42 Speaker 05 It was originally written for-
1:40:42 Sean Fennessey? Evelyn Salt?
1:40:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:40:44 Speaker 07 It was supposed to be Edwin Salt, right?
1:40:45 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. I really, really wish this were eligible for a franchise. Where is Salt 2?
1:40:51 Speaker 05 Where is Salt 2?
1:40:52 Amanda Dobbins? Jack, you seen Salt yet? 2010 Salt 2?
1:40:55 Sean Fennessey? Haven't got to it yet.
1:40:56 Amanda Dobbins? It's really very good.
1:40:58 Sean Fennessey? Salt 2, Colin Pepper, obviously.
1:41:00 Amanda Dobbins? Anyway, your pick, Joanna. Speak on it.
1:41:03 Speaker 05 That's it.
1:41:05 Amanda Dobbins? Thwarted from the U.C., you wanted to take.
1:41:08 Speaker 03 Philip Noyce?
1:41:09 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:41:09 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:41:10 Speaker 03 Banger.
1:41:10 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:41:11 Speaker 05 It's a great, it's a great Angelina Jolie-
1:41:13 Amanda Dobbins? It's really good!
1:41:13 Speaker 05 -action film, a tremendous assortment parade of wigs, which I always appreciate.
1:41:20 Amanda Dobbins? And they, listen, they leave the door open for a sequel.
1:41:24 Speaker 05 I would, I would love to watch Salt 2.
1:41:27 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:41:27 Speaker 03 If Inception's 6 out of 10, what's Salt?
1:41:30 Speaker 05 11 out of 10.
1:41:32 Sean Fennessey? 4? Not a Salt guy.
1:41:35 Speaker 03 Okay, and what would Ballerina be?
1:41:37 Sean Fennessey? John Wick presents Colin Ballerina. 2?
1:41:40 Speaker 07 3?
1:41:41 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, alright. I mean, that's fine, as long as that's the scale we're working on.
1:41:45 Speaker 03 Just trying to get like a baseline.
1:41:46 Sean Fennessey? Look, making pods is all about doing shit like Inception is a 6 out of 10. This is what it is. This is the art.
1:41:52 Speaker 03 I would never-
1:41:52 Sean Fennessey? By watching you, Dad.
1:41:53 Speaker 03 I would never shush a woman in my real life.
1:41:58 Amanda Dobbins? He'd never tell a woman how to scroll in the air in real life!
1:42:01 Speaker 05 It's an adaptation of the Scarlet Letter, but it's not.
1:42:04 Speaker 06 You keep trying to walk it back, we saw what you did with it.
1:42:08 Sean Fennessey? Man, like, really White Knight heart.
1:42:11 Speaker 05 Isn't the hand just guy?
1:42:14 Speaker 03 In the name of the Channing Twins, I discontinue. Let Mallory speak.
1:42:19 Amanda Dobbins? So, so here's something interesting, guys. But that I did not find by scrolling up, by starting a new Google search. So Black Swan was an original screenplay at the WGAs. But it often changes the designation between original and adapted for the Academy. So again, not conclusive.
1:42:37 Speaker 05 There was also like another screenplay, right?
1:42:39 Sean Fennessey? You guys also noted to me that my original screenplay idea was stupid. And that also shouldn't be the way we judge this.
1:42:44 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, well, I just.
1:42:45 Sean Fennessey? I'm just trying to mix up these drafts, guys.
1:42:47 Speaker 05 I really appreciate that. I just don't think that if you're like inspired by a piece of art but not adapting it, that should be called unoriginal.
1:42:54 Amanda Dobbins? We all agree.
1:42:55 Speaker 05 We all wish the category worked differently.
1:42:58 Amanda Dobbins? A lot of it is.
1:43:00 Speaker 05 Black Swan is like, they perform it. Yeah, if you perform the thing in the movie, it doesn't make it an adaptation of the thing.
1:43:07 Sean Fennessey? The only thing hard is hitting a 100 mile an hour fastball.
1:43:09 Amanda Dobbins? But it's not.
1:43:10 Sean Fennessey? When you do it well, you get to be a legend forever. The same is true here.
1:43:14 Amanda Dobbins? That's.
1:43:15 Speaker 06 Man's plane.
1:43:17 Speaker 05 Sports show, get in there.
1:43:18 Speaker 06 Thank you.
1:43:20 Speaker 06 I'm a feminist.
1:43:21 Speaker 05 CR's up.
1:43:22 Speaker 03 Uh, okay. Let me just recap where we're at, just so I can get a good sense of it. Cause a lot of.
1:43:26 Speaker 06 Jackass is going.
1:43:27 Sean Fennessey? This is going really well, right?
1:43:28 Speaker 03 It's going good. I like how the energy we discussed previously when we recorded today. It's like, it's gonna be super chill and normal. So I need a franchise film. They need an original.
1:43:38 Speaker 05 You know the part in The Scarlet Letter when they like spell their Ps?
1:43:40 Speaker 03 A while.
1:43:40 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:43:41 Speaker 03 I might only drafted.
1:43:42 Speaker 06 It's called Pumpernickel?
1:43:43 Speaker 05 Yep.
1:43:43 Speaker 06 Is it Pumpernickel?
1:43:44 Speaker 05 Exactly.
1:43:45 Speaker 06 Which one is it?
1:43:46 Amanda Dobbins? Rob, do you buy plane tickets on your phone or on your computer?
1:43:49 Speaker 03 I buy them on my computer.
1:43:50 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, so you're still one of us.
1:43:52 Speaker 03 Unfortunately.
1:43:52 Speaker 05 I get stressed doing it on my phone.
1:43:54 Speaker 06 I can't do it on my phone.
1:43:55 Speaker 03 I don't trust it.
1:43:55 Amanda Dobbins? But that, but that is a real like millennial laptop generation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:44:00 Speaker 03 Buy a serious purchase that's on the laptop.
1:44:02 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:44:03 Speaker 06 Yeah, you gotta get it out.
1:44:04 Amanda Dobbins? Of course.
1:44:04 Speaker 03 Don't trust the connection. Don't trust anything happening on the phone.
1:44:06 Amanda Dobbins? Like we were in a safe space. Jack, how are you buying plane tickets?
1:44:09 Speaker 04 Laptop.
1:44:10 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:44:10 Speaker 04 Phone is crazy.
1:44:11 Speaker 06 Oh.
1:44:11 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, I agree.
1:44:12 Speaker 05 Jack's an old soul.
1:44:13 Speaker 03 That's true.
1:44:14 Speaker 04 Is that so?
1:44:14 Speaker 03 I'll change my tickets on my phone after I've purchased them.
1:44:17 Amanda Dobbins? Well, they've set it up so you have to do it in their app. Once you are making, and don't even get me started on the upgrade stuff, but.
1:44:25 Speaker 03 In franchise, I'm taking the Twilight Saga colonic.
1:44:31 Speaker 07 Do you want to tell me once again what happens in the clips?
1:44:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, Victoria is creating an army of baby vampires.
1:44:37 Speaker 07 So that's Dakota? Victoria is Dakota Fanning?
1:44:41 Speaker 03 No, that's Bryce Dallas Howard.
1:44:45 Speaker 03 Dakota plays...
1:44:47 Sean Fennessey? Easy.
1:44:47 Speaker 07 The Volturi.
1:44:48 Speaker 03 The Volturi.
1:44:49 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:44:49 Speaker 03 They're on the scene.
1:44:50 Speaker 07 Jamie Campbell Bauer is a Volturi.
1:44:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, he's in there.
1:44:53 Speaker 06 This is the one where you think that they got the head cut off?
1:44:56 Speaker 07 Let's break it down, part one.
1:44:57 Speaker 06 Okay, see?
1:44:58 Speaker 07 That one rules.
1:44:58 Speaker 03 This is one, this was Jacob's glow up. He got stole.
1:45:02 Speaker 06 Oh, that's when he came through.
1:45:04 Speaker 03 And one night, they're on a mountain and he has to keep her warm with his...
1:45:07 Speaker 06 Wolfiness?
1:45:08 Speaker 03 His lupine body heat.
1:45:11 Speaker 07 Maybe it's lupine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:45:13 Speaker 03 Lupine body heat.
1:45:15 Speaker 06 Honestly, this is one of the things that I miss about the ArcLight. The ArcLight had that little cool bar, right? Me and Kalika would go...
1:45:22 Speaker 07 Get a stadium pour.
1:45:23 Speaker 06 Yeah, we'd go, have a couple of drinks.
1:45:27 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:45:27 Speaker 06 And then we would go into Twilight. Twilight is fun.
1:45:30 Speaker 03 Twilight kept the lights on in this town for a long time.
1:45:33 Speaker 06 But if you have a couple of drinks and go into Twilight, it is fucking amazing.
1:45:38 Sean Fennessey? Okay, I'm gonna make a suggestion. Next time there's a big screening, a lot of these screenings we all go to together.
1:45:44 Speaker 06 Right.
1:45:45 Sean Fennessey? We go, we get there at five, we hit up McGuffin's.
1:45:47 Speaker 03 And we go see Twilight instead.
1:45:48 Sean Fennessey? We drink two cocktails.
1:45:50 Speaker 07 Let's go.
1:45:51 Sean Fennessey? I don't know if I can, I think I can pull that off tomorrow.
1:45:53 Speaker 07 Oh, we're going tomorrow?
1:45:55 Sean Fennessey? McGuffin's?
1:45:57 Speaker 07 And it's seven, it's a late start.
1:45:58 Speaker 06 You guys going to Century City?
1:45:59 Sean Fennessey? Yes.
1:45:59 Speaker 06 Oh, let's do it.
1:46:00 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:46:00 Speaker 06 Like, because we're gonna need a drink for that, but it is...
1:46:03 Speaker 07 That's what I'm saying. For Jack Capo.
1:46:05 Speaker 06 I'm sorry, oh, sisters are doing it by themselves, for themselves.
1:46:12 Speaker 07 He feels that way sometimes. It's been five years that he's been saying sisters are doing it by themselves.
1:46:18 Sean Fennessey? I believe Supergirl was written and directed by men, no?
1:46:22 Sean Fennessey? Funny how that works out.
1:46:22 Speaker 06 No, no, no, no, no, is it?
1:46:24 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:46:24 Speaker 06 Oh, wow, that's fucked up. But, uh, but that is, that's a tough one. I need to get on that.
1:46:30 Speaker 03 Why are you pointing at Joe?
1:46:31 Speaker 06 Because Joe is my, Joe is my sister, she keeps me in the feminist, uh, but look, that'll be fun.
1:46:37 Speaker 07 It's not written by a man, but it is directed by a man.
1:46:39 Speaker 06 That'll be, that'll be fun, that'll be fun, and Twilight...
1:46:43 Amanda Dobbins? James.
1:46:47 Speaker 06 Twilight was fun because you'd have those drinks. Man, she wanted to fuck him so bad.
1:46:53 Speaker 03 Oh, yes.
1:46:54 Speaker 06 She loved him.
1:46:56 Speaker 03 Bella.
1:46:57 Speaker 07 Love Edward.
1:46:58 Speaker 03 Yeah, who's the him in question? Who are you talking about?
1:47:00 Speaker 06 Like Edward.
1:47:00 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, Edward.
1:47:01 Speaker 03 But also Jacob, that's the whole thing, no?
1:47:03 Speaker 06 Kinda.
1:47:04 Amanda Dobbins? Remember me?
1:47:05 Speaker 06 Kinda, but when Edward would come on the screen, you would see that Jacob really couldn't. Jacob was just like.
1:47:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:47:10 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:47:11 Speaker 03 He was running for third.
1:47:12 Amanda Dobbins? Edward literally sparkled.
1:47:13 Speaker 03 It's true.
1:47:13 Speaker 06 And the whole arc light would be full of people going crazy. It was actually a lot of fun.
1:47:18 Amanda Dobbins? Very Gale Peta, it was always Peta. Taylor Lautner.
1:47:20 Speaker 06 Taylor Lautner.
1:47:21 Amanda Dobbins? And which, what's the? He married a woman named Taylor. And her name is also Taylor Lautner.
1:47:26 Speaker 03 I think they have a.
1:47:26 Speaker 06 And he dated Taylor Swift.
1:47:28 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, what's the song?
1:47:29 Speaker 07 It's like Madison Bumgardner dating a Madison Bumgardner.
1:47:31 Amanda Dobbins? Which one is it? The, the.
1:47:33 Speaker 07 It's exactly like that.
1:47:34 Amanda Dobbins? In the wood. What's the Taylor Swift song? No, that's Taylor. No, that's Harry Styles.
1:47:40 Speaker 07 I know it is Harry Styles.
1:47:41 Amanda Dobbins? This one is slower.
1:47:42 Speaker 03 That's when they have their snowmobile accident.
1:47:43 Amanda Dobbins? Enchanted December, enchanted, no?
1:47:46 Speaker 07 Enchanted to meet you?
1:47:47 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:47:47 Sean Fennessey? I think it's called Holocene.
1:47:49 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:47:50 Speaker 03 Twilight Saga: Colina Eclipse was directed by David Slade.
1:47:53 Speaker 07 Back to December is about Taylor Lautner.
1:47:55 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, okay.
1:47:56 Speaker 03 About David Slade's work.
1:47:57 Amanda Dobbins? Go for it.
1:47:58 Speaker 03 David Slade directed Thirty Days of Night.
1:47:59 Sean Fennessey? Metalhead.
1:48:00 Speaker 03 And Metalhead, episode of Black Mirror.
1:48:02 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, yeah.
1:48:02 Speaker 06 Oh, Metalhead is great. Thirty Days of Night I also fuck with.
1:48:05 Sean Fennessey? I, me too.
1:48:06 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:48:06 Speaker 07 A shocking pick from CR on the fourth round. You're the best.
1:48:09 Sean Fennessey? Okay, now we go to Van.
1:48:11 Speaker 06 Franchise film Tron Legacy.
1:48:12 Speaker 07 You already picked a franchise film.
1:48:14 Speaker 03 Yeah, you already did. Iron Man 2.
1:48:15 Speaker 07 But you can pick that in.
1:48:16 Speaker 03 Good news, I think it's Oscar nominated.
1:48:19 Speaker 06 Well, if it's Oscar, I don't want to do Oscar.
1:48:21 Speaker 03 I'm just.
1:48:22 Sean Fennessey? What are we doing?
1:48:22 Speaker 03 Van's my guy.
1:48:23 Speaker 07 That is true.
1:48:24 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, right, so enchanted to meet you.
1:48:25 Speaker 06 Okay, so you know, I'll change the whole pick, because I.
1:48:27 Amanda Dobbins? No, no, no, take you, take him in a number of categories.
1:48:29 Speaker 06 So I did franchise film already. What do I have left, Jack?
1:48:33 Speaker 04 Uh, Oscar nominee.
1:48:35 Sean Fennessey? Like an hour ago.
1:48:36 Amanda Dobbins? Blockbuster.
1:48:37 Speaker 06 Do we?
1:48:37 Amanda Dobbins? Blockbuster. I have three more picks to make.
1:48:39 Speaker 04 Oscar nominee. Wildcard, foreign and animated.
1:48:42 Amanda Dobbins? I'm not gonna get home.
1:48:43 Speaker 05 Blockbuster.
1:48:44 Sean Fennessey? Oh, man.
1:48:44 Speaker 04 And blockbuster. Those are the four.
1:48:46 Amanda Dobbins? By the way, Enchanted Me is about the Owl City guy.
1:48:49 Speaker 06 Yeah, okay, I'll take Tron Legacy and Blockbuster then.
1:48:52 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:48:52 Sean Fennessey? Which one?
1:48:53 Speaker 06 Blockbuster, Tron Legacy.
1:48:54 Sean Fennessey? Tron Legacy.
1:48:55 Speaker 06 Have to have it.
1:48:56 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:48:56 Speaker 06 Cause guess what?
1:48:56 Sean Fennessey? Have to have it.
1:48:57 Speaker 06 I have fun.
1:48:59 Speaker 05 I liked it.
1:49:00 Speaker 06 I, I, I, I think guess what? I'll tell you something.
1:49:02 Speaker 05 It's very fun to rewatch.
1:49:04 Speaker 06 It, it, I.
1:49:05 Speaker 04 It's good.
1:49:05 Amanda Dobbins? At the end of a, at the end of a party.
1:49:07 Speaker 05 You put on Tron Legacy when everyone's like.
1:49:08 Amanda Dobbins? Kirsten Dunst.
1:49:09 Speaker 06 Zoning out. Mm-hmm.
1:49:11 Speaker 05 Oh, great.
1:49:12 Speaker 06 I have fun.
1:49:12 Speaker 05 Daffy is going.
1:49:13 Speaker 06 They're fighting, de-aged Jeff Bridges.
1:49:16 Speaker 05 Michael Sheen is Michael Sheen.
1:49:18 Speaker 06 Michael Sheen, uh, Grant Hill, Little River.
1:49:21 Speaker 05 Garrett Headland.
1:49:21 Speaker 06 Garrett Headland.
1:49:22 Speaker 05 A real potato person.
1:49:23 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:49:23 Speaker 06 Yeah, that guy.
1:49:24 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, I don't know. I can see it, but he did date Kiki for a while, so that's why.
1:49:29 Speaker 05 That was after this.
1:49:30 Amanda Dobbins? It was after this.
1:49:31 Speaker 05 But then remember he was in that Peter Pan movie?
1:49:33 Speaker 06 Which one?
1:49:33 Amanda Dobbins? No, I don't remember that.
1:49:34 Speaker 06 Which Peter Pan?
1:49:35 Speaker 04 That's exactly the point.
1:49:36 Speaker 05 No, I don't.
1:49:36 Speaker 06 I remember him.
1:49:37 Speaker 05 Like Ashton Hooke in a Peter Pan movie.
1:49:39 Speaker 06 I don't remember that.
1:49:39 Speaker 05 Like, it was like a prequel.
1:49:41 Speaker 06 I remember Troy.
1:49:42 Amanda Dobbins? Remember Triple Frontier?
1:49:44 Speaker 05 Of course.
1:49:44 Amanda Dobbins? Vividly, yeah.
1:49:45 Speaker 06 That shit is the bomb.
1:49:46 Amanda Dobbins? Are you kidding how much we love Triple Frontier on this podcast?
1:49:50 Speaker 06 That shit is the bomb.
1:49:51 Amanda Dobbins? He and I shared a Twitch.
1:49:53 Sean Fennessey? Lost Control.
1:49:53 Speaker 05 I love that.
1:49:54 Speaker 06 You don't like Triple Frontier?
1:49:55 Sean Fennessey? I do, I'm a big fan.
1:49:56 Speaker 06 Triple Frontier.
1:49:56 Sean Fennessey? I'm on the record about that.
1:49:57 Speaker 06 That, that is one of the best scenes ever of like Delta Force Navy SEAL guys stalking each other, call out your kills, identify. I love that Troy.
1:50:07 Sean Fennessey? The cinema of J.C. Shandor, followed closely by Craven the Hunter.
1:50:11 Speaker 06 I just gotta do that.
1:50:12 Sean Fennessey? It's a tough one.
1:50:15 Speaker 06 I like that movie.
1:50:15 Sean Fennessey? Okay, good pick.
1:50:17 Speaker 06 Craven was okay.
1:50:18 Sean Fennessey? Who's up now, Mal?
1:50:18 Speaker 06 Rhino.
1:50:19 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, Rob.
1:50:20 Speaker 05 Rob.
1:50:22 Sean Fennessey? You, I like that. I like that.
1:50:27 Speaker 06 Rhino. That's, that's my, I liked it. I like to have fun at the movies.
1:50:32 Speaker 04 We'll be selecting I Am Love.
1:50:36 Speaker 07 You stopped Amanda again?
1:50:37 Amanda Dobbins? Let me just, let me just say something to you now.
1:50:40 Speaker 07 That's mean. Like, it's a little bit like you're single white female.
1:50:45 Amanda Dobbins? And that's okay. And that's fine.
1:50:47 Speaker 07 And when you get her haircut, some real Jennifer Dae's in there.
1:50:49 Amanda Dobbins? And I, yeah, and that's okay.
1:50:51 Speaker 07 Let's start calling Rob Hetty for the rest of the movie.
1:50:53 Speaker 04 Hetty, can I ask you a question? When did you draft MacGruber?
1:50:57 Speaker 04 I can only be myself.
1:50:59 Speaker 07 Hide your spiked high heels.
1:51:00 Speaker 03 Doesn't this kind of also show you the safe space Sean and I create for you here usually?
1:51:05 Speaker 07 You don't give a fuck about I Am Love. Have you ever seen it?
1:51:07 Speaker 03 It's Almodovar, right?
1:51:08 Speaker 07 No, so get out of here.
1:51:10 Speaker 06 Shout out, shout out.
1:51:12 Speaker 07 It's Luca Guadagnino. Speak on it, Rob, since you love it so much.
1:51:15 Speaker 04 It is, I'm gonna take it in.
1:51:19 Speaker 04 I'm gonna take in foreign animated.
1:51:20 Speaker 03 Are you gonna put Artificial up on your Instagram? Will you save that film?
1:51:25 Sean Fennessey? Are you gonna distribute Artificial?
1:51:27 Speaker 06 Isn't it kind of precious and beautiful, though, that Rob loves these movies?
1:51:29 Speaker 04 That's what I'm saying.
1:51:30 Speaker 06 Like, whenever, like.
1:51:31 Speaker 04 Take it as the compliment. It's a great film. It's a wonderful movie.
1:51:34 Speaker 06 I've never even heard of it.
1:51:35 Speaker 04 It's beautiful and very sad.
1:51:37 Speaker 05 And beautiful?
1:51:38 Speaker 06 Yeah, it's kind of precious and beautiful. Like, the same movies that Amanda loves, Rob loves.
1:51:43 Speaker 04 That's what's great about movies.
1:51:44 Speaker 06 That's what's great about movies. He's a totally regular man.
1:51:49 Speaker 04 You don't have to say it like that.
1:51:52 Speaker 06 But he, but they, you know, it's a connect.
1:51:55 Speaker 04 I, I think this movie is actually incredible. I think it has a lot to say about secrets and family and the European urge to bang your son's best friend. And who else will speak to that in our time?
1:52:05 Speaker 03 You do seem prepared to talk about it, but I also feel like you are unabombing her. You are, you are like.
1:52:12 Speaker 07 I think both things give me truth.
1:52:13 Speaker 04 Here's what it is. I have a piece of Amanda's hair.
1:52:16 Speaker 07 Here is a question. How many times in your life?
1:52:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:52:20 Speaker 07 Have you Googled the actor who plays not the son's best friend, but the son?
1:52:25 Speaker 04 Oh, you got it for the son?
1:52:27 Speaker 07 Yeah. Flavio? He has not been in another, he has not done anything else. Name is not hyperlinked at all. He's so handsome. Yeah.
1:52:34 Speaker 04 He is quite handsome.
1:52:35 Speaker 07 Really very handsome.
1:52:36 Speaker 04 There is a moment in this movie where Tilda Swinton has long hair and she gets a haircut to get the Tilda Swinton. And it's like Thor picking up the hammer. Like, it is, it is a super heroic moment that I found incredibly captivating. I Am Love, wonderful movie.
1:52:50 Speaker 07 Really very beautiful. Have you ever been to Milan? Anyone here, Milan?
1:52:53 Amanda Dobbins? No, I wish.
1:52:54 Speaker 07 I'd like to.
1:52:54 Speaker 03 Go.
1:52:55 Speaker 06 Not a soul. You guys haven't been?
1:52:57 Speaker 05 Is this not just American Beauty Re-skinned?
1:52:59 Speaker 03 What?
1:53:00 Speaker 04 Like, how dare you?
1:53:02 Speaker 03 Are you saying that this is, what did you pick this in?
1:53:04 Speaker 04 I was thinking in a foreign animated, foreign language animated.
1:53:06 Speaker 03 Is it in English?
1:53:07 Speaker 04 It is not. It is in-
1:53:08 Speaker 06 Primarily in Italian.
1:53:09 Speaker 04 Tilda, Tilda's speaking straight Italian, some Russian.
1:53:11 Amanda Dobbins? She is married into like a very wealthy Milanese family.
1:53:16 Speaker 04 Ah.
1:53:16 Amanda Dobbins? And doesn't meet with their standards and so then she meets a chef and they have a lot of sex while bumblebees swirl around.
1:53:26 Speaker 04 They do.
1:53:26 Speaker 07 It's a great field.
1:53:27 Speaker 03 That was kind of upsetting.
1:53:28 Speaker 06 The Transformers?
1:53:29 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, exactly.
1:53:31 Sean Fennessey? Wow, that would be a film to watch.
1:53:32 Speaker 07 Talented and versatile performer.
1:53:33 Sean Fennessey? Bumblebee visits Milan?
1:53:35 Speaker 07 And fuck Tilda's lips.
1:53:36 Speaker 06 So, just real quick.
1:53:37 Sean Fennessey? That's exciting.
1:53:38 Speaker 06 Real quick, everybody here has seen this movie?
1:53:40 Speaker 03 I have.
1:53:40 Sean Fennessey? I have.
1:53:41 Speaker 06 Okay.
1:53:41 Speaker 03 Sorry.
1:53:42 Speaker 07 Yes, part of the desire trilogy.
1:53:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, it's Luca Guadagnino, it's like his-
1:53:45 Sean Fennessey? It's kind of his breakthrough.
1:53:46 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, his breakthrough and then He May Call Me By Your Name and Challengers and-
1:53:49 Speaker 07 This is a real time for Tilda too.
1:53:51 Amanda Dobbins? Art of Filch, yeah, which I would like to see.
1:53:54 Speaker 04 All right, Amanda.
1:53:55 Amanda Dobbins? All right, well, that was a kick in the dick.
1:53:57 Speaker 07 Would you have taken, would you have taken that? Would that have been your pick here?
1:53:59 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:53:59 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:54:00 Amanda Dobbins? Well, no, because I didn't, I didn't know that his research was going that deep, but I guess it is. It's fine. I guess this will push me to do foreign language animated now and I'm gonna take Dog Tooth.
1:54:11 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
1:54:11 Amanda Dobbins? The Yorgos Lanthimos film that-
1:54:13 Speaker 03 It's the only good one.
1:54:14 Amanda Dobbins? Um, of the Yorgos-
1:54:16 Sean Fennessey? You haven't seen any of the other ones?
1:54:17 Speaker 03 I saw some of them.
1:54:18 Speaker 07 How dare you?
1:54:19 Amanda Dobbins? No, you-
1:54:19 Speaker 03 Uh, the Dead, the Dead Deer one?
1:54:22 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:54:22 Speaker 03 What's that one called?
1:54:23 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, that's it. That was the title.
1:54:24 Speaker 03 No, uh, I saw The Lobster and I saw-
1:54:28 Sean Fennessey? You're not a fan of The Lobster?
1:54:29 Speaker 03 I like The Lobster.
1:54:29 Amanda Dobbins? No, you saw Four Things, didn't you?
1:54:31 Speaker 03 I skipped through it on Hulu.
1:54:32 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:54:34 Sean Fennessey? Jumped around for the sex scenes?
1:54:35 Speaker 07 Well, they are powerful.
1:54:37 Speaker 06 I could see you like, you don't know-
1:54:38 Sean Fennessey? Jack liked that, wow.
1:54:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't like it.
1:54:40 Speaker 06 No Begonia?
1:54:41 Speaker 03 Nope.
1:54:41 Amanda Dobbins? And you didn't do-
1:54:42 Speaker 06 Really?
1:54:42 Amanda Dobbins? Oh yeah, Begonia was pretty good.
1:54:43 Speaker 03 I went to the end of Begonia to see what people were talking about.
1:54:45 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:54:47 Speaker 06 Begonia gave us a, I thought Begonia was good though.
1:54:50 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:54:51 Speaker 05 This is the secret behind Chris being able to talk about any subject on any podcast. He's like, I clicked it, I got it. I get it.
1:54:58 Sean Fennessey? You just watch scenes on Twitter and then you're like, I saw that.
1:55:00 Speaker 07 Well, I still think his most iconic version of this is that he skips the scenes with the hobbits when he watches the Lord of the Rings.
1:55:07 Speaker 03 It's incredibly efficient to really watch this.
1:55:09 Speaker 07 If you're doing that, then literally nothing is sacred when you're going through a movie.
1:55:14 Sean Fennessey? I kind of respect that.
1:55:15 Speaker 06 I respect the fuck out of it because those guys are fucking annoying.
1:55:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, why?
1:55:20 Speaker 07 When you go see the hobbit movies, you're okay.
1:55:22 Speaker 05 Man, this is your shit with your brother.
1:55:23 Speaker 03 Different hobbits.
1:55:24 Speaker 05 You know that's true.
1:55:25 Speaker 03 Oh, Sam and Frodo that I'm like, you guys start the same and end the same and just walk a lot. I'm here for Boromir, okay?
1:55:32 Sean Fennessey? I'm here for Strife.
1:55:33 Speaker 06 Scamillion, Scamillion?
1:55:35 Speaker 05 The Simorillion?
1:55:36 Speaker 06 The Simorillion. Simorillion, what is it called? How you say it?
1:55:40 Speaker 05 The Book of Eli.
1:55:40 Speaker 06 He's very, yeah, exactly. He's very excited that they're doing the Simorillion.
1:55:46 Speaker 03 I am loved.
1:55:46 Speaker 07 What did you pick? Simorillion.
1:55:48 Speaker 03 Did you pick anything?
1:55:48 Speaker 07 I picked Dog Tooth. I just started thinking hobbits.
1:55:52 Sean Fennessey? Dog Tooth is an amazing movie.
1:55:54 Speaker 07 That's great, that's great.
1:55:54 Speaker 06 It's a good movie.
1:55:55 Speaker 07 Amazing movie.
1:55:56 Speaker 03 Do you think Dog Tooth is?
1:55:57 Speaker 07 I like the work of Jorgos Lethmos, but much like Greenberg, Dog Tooth is on the more fucked up spectrum, which is where I like him to reside. I appreciated Poor Things, but it was a little too, you know, whimsical costume drama, you got this girly for me. So Dog Tooth is messed up.
1:56:14 Speaker 03 Do you think Dog Tooth is a good girl dad movie?
1:56:18 Sean Fennessey? Uh, no, no. It's very bad. It's extremely bad.
1:56:22 Speaker 03 He doesn't let her out of the house.
1:56:23 Speaker 07 But he's not making any more films, so you're good. Now he's just, he's just doing photography. So, you know, I got, I got the last good one.
1:56:34 Speaker 05 I'm once again worried you're gonna take what I want.
1:56:35 Speaker 07 What does Boromir do?
1:56:37 Speaker 03 He dies, he's hubris, he thinks he can hold the ring and then he gets arrows. Gets me every time.
1:56:44 Speaker 07 Give him a moment, OPG, save.
1:56:47 Sean Fennessey? I think at this point, I'm probably just gonna take stuff I really enjoy.
1:56:50 Speaker 03 As opposed to in Sevchen.
1:56:52 Sean Fennessey? That's right.
1:56:52 Speaker 03 What have we been doing here?
1:56:54 Sean Fennessey? Hmm, I think you guys misunderstand what this exercise is.
1:56:57 Speaker 03 Do we?
1:56:57 Sean Fennessey? This is not an expression of your life.
1:56:59 Speaker 05 You guys?
1:56:59 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:57:00 Speaker 07 It's an expression of Rob trying to take mine.
1:57:02 Speaker 03 Oh, wow.
1:57:03 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I guess Rob understands it. Everybody else doesn't understand it.
1:57:06 Speaker 03 You have the guy sincerely like Jackass 3D.
1:57:08 Speaker 07 Rob, do you use the real real?
1:57:10 Speaker 03 I don't use the, should I be using the real real?
1:57:12 Speaker 07 Right, well, I was gonna say.
1:57:13 Sean Fennessey? I'm bidding you. Um, I'll tell you what, in Blockbuster.
1:57:17 Speaker 07 You don't bid on the real real, just so you know.
1:57:21 Amanda Dobbins? This is fun.
1:57:22 Speaker 07 Don't do it.
1:57:23 Sean Fennessey? What do you think I'm gonna do?
1:57:25 Speaker 07 I'm not gonna say it.
1:57:26 Speaker 05 Mallory, I think she's in a telepathic conversation.
1:57:27 Amanda Dobbins? He's not gonna do what you think he's gonna do.
1:57:29 Speaker 07 I actually think he is gonna do what I wanna do.
1:57:30 Amanda Dobbins? No, he's not.
1:57:31 Speaker 06 I say we let him do it.
1:57:32 Amanda Dobbins? I should've done it, honestly, but Rob got it in my head, so... Unless you wanna do it.
1:57:38 Sean Fennessey? What do you think I'm gonna do?
1:57:39 Amanda Dobbins? Not gonna say it until after you meet Kai.
1:57:40 Speaker 06 Goddamn draft the movie, I wanna see now.
1:57:41 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:57:42 Sean Fennessey? There's no way you're gonna take this movie. I'm taking Tangled.
1:57:45 Speaker 06 Oh, wow.
1:57:46 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:57:46 Speaker 07 So close to what I was worried you were gonna do, but not the thing I was worried you were gonna do.
1:57:50 Sean Fennessey? Tangled is a Disney animated telling of Rapunzel.
1:57:54 Speaker 07 Manny Moon.
1:57:56 Speaker 05 They're making a live-action version of it, get excited. You're gonna have to watch it, cause it's gonna be live-action now.
1:58:01 Sean Fennessey? I'll tell you a little bit about it.
1:58:02 Amanda Dobbins? He does not watch the live-action. How many Disney movies have you, Chris Ryan, seen in your lifetime?
1:58:08 Speaker 03 I've seen a bunch.
1:58:10 Speaker 05 Okay, Fantasia.
1:58:12 Sean Fennessey? Tangled is a little bit overlooked.
1:58:13 Amanda Dobbins? Lion King?
1:58:14 Sean Fennessey? Because in this period, Disney was down a little bit.
1:58:17 Amanda Dobbins? Little Mermaid?
1:58:18 Sean Fennessey? Guys, please. I just picked a movie for Chris.
1:58:22 Amanda Dobbins? No one cares.
1:58:24 Sean Fennessey? No one cares what Disney movies Chris hasn't seen, Amanda. What are you talking about?
1:58:29 Amanda Dobbins? I think more people do care.
1:58:31 Sean Fennessey? They do not. Chris can't think of five Disney movies off the top of his head right now if he had a gun to his head.
1:58:36 Amanda Dobbins? He's just like a challenge?
1:58:38 Sean Fennessey? Go.
1:58:39 Amanda Dobbins? Aladdin?
1:58:39 Sean Fennessey? Yes, it's not a Disney movie.
1:58:41 Amanda Dobbins? Aladdin?
1:58:41 Speaker 07 Oh, I love Aladdin.
1:58:43 Speaker 03 Does Star Wars count?
1:58:44 Sean Fennessey? No!
1:58:48 Speaker 05 Have you seen clips of any other animated films recently?
1:58:50 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, man.
1:58:51 Speaker 07 Oh, my god.
1:58:52 Speaker 05 Beauty and the Beast? Like a Moana clip, maybe, you came across, you know?
1:58:56 Speaker 03 Aladdin 2: The Return of Jafar was right there. It was right there for you.
1:58:59 Speaker 05 Pride of Simba.
1:59:00 Amanda Dobbins? You haven't seen The Lion King?
1:59:02 Sean Fennessey? I'll fuck with Prince of the Beasts. You've seen Cinderella?
1:59:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, Beauty and the Beast.
1:59:05 Sean Fennessey? When did you see Cinderella?
1:59:07 Speaker 03 Which, I mean, which one are we talking about?
1:59:11 Speaker 05 Just remarkable. Tell us more about Tangled.
1:59:13 Sean Fennessey? Tangled is underrated. Tangled, uh...
1:59:15 Speaker 06 It's good.
1:59:16 Sean Fennessey? Is really good.
1:59:16 Speaker 06 Yeah.
1:59:17 Sean Fennessey? It's fine.
1:59:18 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's like a six out of 10.
1:59:21 Sean Fennessey? Uh, I saw, I took my little sister to see this movie when she was nine years old. She was, uh...
1:59:27 Speaker 05 Oh, that's cute. You should have led with that.
1:59:28 Sean Fennessey? She was staying over with me when, when we were living in New York and...
1:59:33 Speaker 05 Orchard?
1:59:34 Sean Fennessey? We went to, on Orchard, yep. No, it might have been, it might have been Brooklyn. Uh, I might have moved to Brooklyn by this point, but we went to the AMC, um, in Kip's Bay and went to go see this and had an amazing time. And then I had the nice opportunity to watch it with my daughter years later. And now Rapunzel, one of, one of her goats. Uh, Manny Moore, very good.
1:59:54 Speaker 04 Really good.
1:59:54 Sean Fennessey? Songs are pretty underrated.
1:59:55 Speaker 04 I see the light.
1:59:56 Speaker 05 The songs are...
1:59:57 Speaker 04 I have crushed at karaoke many times.
1:59:58 Sean Fennessey? What's your story here with crushing Tangled? Why, you're...
2:00:01 Speaker 05 I just, I think it's a mediocre Disney animated.
2:00:03 Speaker 04 I think it's, I think this is straight up better than Frozen, to be honest with you.
2:00:07 Sean Fennessey? I'm, as a non-Frozen person, I'm kinda with you.
2:00:10 Speaker 06 Well, come on, man.
2:00:10 Speaker 05 The songs aren't nearly as good.
2:00:12 Sean Fennessey? I agree with that. Movie Frozen is not...
2:00:14 Speaker 05 Like, don't, don't be funny.
2:00:15 Speaker 06 Yeah, come on.
2:00:16 Speaker 04 But it's only the songs. That's what I'm saying.
2:00:18 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:00:18 Speaker 04 The movie is, Frozen, the movie is, eh.
2:00:20 Sean Fennessey? I, I'm, I'm with you, Rob. I feel the same way. I've watched Frozen many times.
2:00:24 Speaker 03 Do you think he's gonna change his mind? Are you worried?
2:00:26 Sean Fennessey? What?
2:00:27 Speaker 05 No, don't worry. I won't talk about it, Tangled. No, no, no. I'm, I'm relieved. I'm thrilled.
2:00:32 Sean Fennessey? Um, okay, Mal, you can take what you like now.
2:00:34 Speaker 05 I would like you to sing one song from Tangled.
2:00:36 Sean Fennessey? Hmm. Hmm.
2:00:37 Speaker 05 Do it.
2:00:38 Speaker 06 That's Zachary Levi.
2:00:40 Speaker 05 Deeply unproblematic Zachary Levi.
2:00:42 Speaker 06 Yeah, great guy.
2:00:43 Sean Fennessey? He wasn't back then. I don't, I don't think I...
2:00:45 Speaker 06 He was cool. He was like, yeah, we didn't know yet.
2:00:46 Speaker 05 It was Chuck. Yeah, it was Chuck.
2:00:48 Speaker 06 We didn't know yet.
2:00:49 Sean Fennessey? What, what's...
2:00:50 Speaker 05 What?
2:00:51 Sean Fennessey? Someone, can someone hum a tune from it so I can pick it up?
2:00:54 Speaker 06 I've only seen it the one time. Took my niece and her friends to see it the same time.
2:00:57 Sean Fennessey? They did. That's beautiful.
2:00:58 Speaker 05 Not a movie any of us were inclined to pick, so nobody can help you here, I guess. Tough.
2:01:02 Sean Fennessey? I feel good about it.
2:01:02 Speaker 06 It's a cute little movie, though, man.
2:01:03 Sean Fennessey? It's good.
2:01:04 Speaker 05 There's a little like Iguana.
2:01:05 Speaker 03 Tangled songs in a different key than their original.
2:01:07 Speaker 06 It's not fucking with Frozen.
2:01:08 Sean Fennessey? That's what I'm imagining, yeah.
2:01:10 Speaker 05 She fights with her hair. That's pretty cool.
2:01:12 Sean Fennessey? What, Harry Potter? What are you so worried about?
2:01:14 Speaker 05 No, I'm gonna pick the animated movie that I thought you were gonna pick in blockbuster. How to Train Your Dragon, a stone cold classic.
2:01:20 Sean Fennessey? I'm not a big fan of that movie.
2:01:21 Speaker 05 What?
2:01:22 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:01:22 Speaker 05 Oh my God, that movie's amazing.
2:01:24 Speaker 06 We just taking turns kicking each other in the nuts now. That movie's phenomenal.
2:01:29 Speaker 05 How to Train Your Dragon is dark, turn, and sour.
2:01:32 Speaker 06 Yeah, I don't know who that is.
2:01:34 Speaker 05 I think that's what it happens.
2:01:35 Sean Fennessey? It's when you soured.
2:01:38 Speaker 07 How to Train Your Dragon is just genuinely like a wonderful film. I have a little toothless plush that I love. Hiccup is an icon. The story about... Of cinema and of the hero's journey, I would say. You know, the idea that you think you have to live life a certain way and fit a certain archetype in form and be big and strong, and then, no, you can form your own bond. And they did that with each other and they saved their community, didn't they?
2:02:00 Speaker 05 You can be a nerd and create Facebook, and it's great.
2:02:03 Speaker 07 There is a little bit of a theme in my list, I will say. I just, I love, I genuinely love How to Train Your Dragon. So that's my pick and blockbuster. And then on the turn here, I have two contenders here that I like a lot that are available for Oscar nominee.
2:02:22 Speaker 07 I'm gonna take Winter Spoon. Oh, yeah. A movie I love, really love. And not only was that a big Oscar movie and an excellent film that year, but it kind of like announced J-Law as an Oscar force for a stretch of time. That movie is really upsetting, really harrowing, full of wonderful performances and such a like utterly specific sense of place and family strife. I love it. It's a wonderful film.
2:02:47 Speaker 03 Deborah Grant, what happened? Was it like, there's extra, whatever happened with her film?
2:02:52 Sean Fennessey? She made a follow-up film with Ben Foster about a man living in the wild with his daughter.
2:02:58 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
2:02:58 Sean Fennessey? That was amazing. I'm trying to remember the name of it. It came out in 2018, Leave No Trace.
2:03:02 Speaker 07 That's right.
2:03:03 Sean Fennessey? Which is a great, great film, but she hasn't made a feature in a long time.
2:03:07 Speaker 03 Okay.
2:03:08 Sean Fennessey? Great thing. Very, very good movie. John Hawks is unreal in that movie.
2:03:11 Speaker 06 He is. Winter's Bone was kind of a deal. It became a deal.
2:03:14 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:03:14 Speaker 07 It's a great film.
2:03:14 Speaker 06 Right there at the end.
2:03:15 Sean Fennessey? It was a big announcement. I mean, she had only really done the, um, what was it, the sitcom she was on? The southern comedian who's, she played the daughter. The Bill Engvall show? Bill Engvall, thank you.
2:03:25 Speaker 06 Then she pulls out the red dress and that was it.
2:03:27 Speaker 05 Yeah.
2:03:27 Speaker 06 Remember that joint?
2:03:28 Speaker 05 I remember, yeah, I sure do.
2:03:30 Speaker 06 Yep, then she's there.
2:03:31 Speaker 05 Yep.
2:03:32 Speaker 06 Then she's everywhere.
2:03:33 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm. And then she's not.
2:03:35 Speaker 06 She's not.
2:03:36 Sean Fennessey? Okay, we've got franchise film, foreign language animated, and wild card left to go.
2:03:45 Speaker 05 Okay.
2:03:50 Sean Fennessey? I'm gonna take in foreign language animated. There's so many good ones here.
2:04:00 Speaker 07 Yeah, there are. There really are.
2:04:04 Sean Fennessey? I'll take Bong Joon Ho's mother.
2:04:06 Speaker 07 God damn it. Good one. I mean, that was never gonna come back to me.
2:04:09 Sean Fennessey? Which is a great thriller about what a mother will do for her son. Um, and like a movie that I did not think was very funny the first time I saw it. Cause I don't, I didn't know as much about Bong's films when I first saw it. And now having seen his entire body work, I think is very, very funny. It was an incredible moment of exultation at the end of this movie on a bus ride. It was like one of the best things you'll ever see. Um, and this is a great one. So, yeah.
2:04:35 Speaker 07 Really good pick. Very good. Great movie.
2:04:39 Amanda Dobbins? So I have franchise, blockbuster and wild card left. And franchise and blockbuster, the good stuff got taken away early. So there are a couple moves, but I have to figure out whether I want to be. What kind, what kind of cute do I want to be, you know? But I mean, both at this point, you have to be cute. We're not picking from the, the top of the heap. Uh, but I don't know if I want to really go for it or. Whether, all right, so blockbuster, let's, let's talk about blockbuster. Here's what's left. Alice in Wonderland, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, part one.
2:05:20 Amanda Dobbins? Despicable Me, Shrek Forever After, The Karate Kid, Clash of the Titans, Grown Ups, Little Fucker's, Megamind, The King's Speech and The Last Airbender.
2:05:33 Speaker 07 Yeah. Amanda, you love minions.
2:05:36 Amanda Dobbins? Well, sure, but so here's the question I, and I understand, and that starts the minions. Despicable Me, but it's where do I take it, you know? And what's left over for me? Yeah. Franchise, franchise or blockbuster? That's not the question. The question is, what is the other one? Now I have like a little bit of a franchise, not cheat, but creativity in my back pocket.
2:05:56 Speaker 03 But then you've got Rob.
2:05:58 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, that's true.
2:05:59 Sean Fennessey? I will take Sex and the City too. I will do.
2:06:03 Amanda Dobbins? Even I, even I'm not going to take that one, though I do think I saw it in theaters.
2:06:06 Speaker 04 Definitely.
2:06:07 Amanda Dobbins? Let's see. You know what? I'm gonna do it. I'll do it and I'll do Despicable Me and Blockbuster. Um, I, I love the minions. I think they're genuinely really funny. And we've had a lot of discussion about what comedy is and is not on this podcast. But, um, the minions just shouting out Dua Lipa lyrics, um, while bopping around and doing physical comedy is, to me, Amanda Dobbins funny. And that's what this is about.
2:06:30 Speaker 04 The minions are not characters. They're not characters that I thought would still be in my life now.
2:06:36 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:06:37 Speaker 07 But even with the 101 freeway in Los Angeles.
2:06:40 Speaker 04 They're on the 101 and I feel like I, I work with the, the Tulsi Gabbard of the minions.
2:06:45 Sean Fennessey? The Minionette.
2:06:47 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
2:06:49 Amanda Dobbins? I think they show great creativity and comedic ingenuity. So that's where I am. Despite, the rest of it grew, whatever, you know? Um, but I think I like.
2:07:00 Sean Fennessey? Minions are barely in Despicable Me.
2:07:02 Amanda Dobbins? Well, it's where they start.
2:07:03 Sean Fennessey? That's true.
2:07:04 Amanda Dobbins? So shout out Mittens.
2:07:06 Sean Fennessey? There's a lot of grew.
2:07:07 Amanda Dobbins? I know.
2:07:07 Speaker 07 What do we get this year? And his scarf.
2:07:09 Amanda Dobbins? And Jennifer Lawrence.
2:07:09 Speaker 07 What do we hear?
2:07:12 Sean Fennessey? Um, okay. Who's next? Rob Mahoney?
2:07:17 Speaker 04 I will take Black Swan and Oscar.
2:07:21 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
2:07:22 Speaker 07 That's fine.
2:07:23 Speaker 04 You didn't take it.
2:07:24 Speaker 07 I didn't take it.
2:07:25 Speaker 04 Was not selected as of yet.
2:07:27 Amanda Dobbins? What's your relationship to ballet?
2:07:30 Speaker 04 Not profound.
2:07:30 Speaker 07 Don't Chalamet yourself here. Be careful.
2:07:32 Speaker 04 No, I, I respect the medium. I just see myself.
2:07:34 Speaker 07 Never took classes.
2:07:35 Speaker 04 Never took classes.
2:07:36 Speaker 07 Okay.
2:07:36 Speaker 04 Not opposed to it. Maybe, maybe that's another act for me.
2:07:39 Speaker 07 Do it for content. Put it on the gram.
2:07:41 Speaker 04 I, and I don't think I'm gonna be doing that.
2:07:42 Speaker 03 He's too busy broadcasting Luca Guadagnino's article.
2:07:45 Speaker 04 Oh daddy. That's what I'm about. Uh, honestly, I just see myself in, uh, in Natalie Portman's journey in this movie. I just think our lives parallel a lot.
2:07:53 Speaker 07 Actually, I do that.
2:07:54 Speaker 04 Yeah?
2:07:56 Sean Fennessey? I see this draft parallel in that movie, the way that you are doubling Amanda in eerie and unsettling ways.
2:08:02 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:08:03 Speaker 04 Okay. Say Mila Kunis's name.
2:08:07 Sean Fennessey? This, what a pod for her. This movie, which did not go drafted when we did the 2010 draft, six years ago. When it came out, I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I thought it was brilliant. I was very, very pro Aronofsky. I've not seen it since it came out and I never think about it.
2:08:24 Speaker 04 Never think about it.
2:08:25 Amanda Dobbins? I think about it a lot.
2:08:26 Sean Fennessey? Do you really?
2:08:27 Amanda Dobbins? We have anxiety. You have anxiety. You don't think about.
2:08:29 Speaker 04 Not enough, apparently.
2:08:31 Sean Fennessey? No, I don't know why.
2:08:33 Speaker 06 I think when I first saw it, I realized it would be like a one or two watcher.
2:08:36 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:08:36 Speaker 04 Oh, it's not pleasant.
2:08:37 Speaker 06 Yeah, it's unsettling.
2:08:38 Sean Fennessey? A lot of his films are like that, obviously.
2:08:39 Amanda Dobbins? No, I'm not really watching it, but I, I think about it a lot.
2:08:42 Speaker 04 It lingers.
2:08:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:08:43 Sean Fennessey? And I, Swan Lake is very present in my household with my daughter. In fact, we bought a Swan Lake like play along book this weekend, but I, it never even crossed my mind. Yeah.
2:08:52 Speaker 06 Well, now you're marrying that guy, right? She married, no.
2:08:55 Speaker 04 You think, I think you're thinking of J Law.
2:08:57 Speaker 06 Hmm. No, I feel like she was married to a ballet guy.
2:08:59 Amanda Dobbins? She was Benjamin Milletier. Yeah, they met on this.
2:09:03 Speaker 04 He was the choreographer.
2:09:04 Amanda Dobbins? He was the choreographer. Yeah.
2:09:05 Speaker 06 He was choreographer. Yeah, I went to something that they had.
2:09:07 Speaker 04 Did he scam her?
2:09:08 Speaker 06 He was there.
2:09:09 Amanda Dobbins? No, some other things happened. Yeah.
2:09:12 Sean Fennessey? Untoward acts.
2:09:13 Amanda Dobbins? And I think she's now having a baby with somebody else because they divorced.
2:09:17 Sean Fennessey? Me.
2:09:17 Speaker 06 Oh.
2:09:18 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. You did draft Tron Legacy or you didn't?
2:09:20 Speaker 06 I did.
2:09:21 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:09:21 Speaker 04 And now it's your turn again.
2:09:22 Speaker 06 Oscar nomination. Do I have that category left?
2:09:26 Amanda Dobbins? Mm hmm. You do.
2:09:28 Sean Fennessey? Yes, yes, yes. Mm hmm.
2:09:31 Amanda Dobbins? Very good.
2:09:31 Sean Fennessey? Incredible movie.
2:09:32 Amanda Dobbins? It's a good one.
2:09:33 Speaker 06 Love it. Love it. I love it.
2:09:38 Speaker 04 Now you can't say I liked it anymore, so you gotta love it.
2:09:40 Speaker 06 Loved it. Um, I'm only going with movies. Yeah, obviously they're movies, but some of these movies I honestly didn't see them.
2:09:45 Sean Fennessey? You saw this in theaters?
2:09:46 Speaker 06 I did.
2:09:47 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:09:47 Speaker 06 I did. I like, once the shit started to like pop and like, once again, the arc light, like if I'd have been in Baton Rouge, I would have.
2:09:52 Sean Fennessey? Are you Banksy?
2:09:53 Speaker 06 Huh?
2:09:54 Sean Fennessey? Are you Banksy?
2:09:55 Speaker 06 What do you mean? No, I'm not Banksy.
2:09:56 Amanda Dobbins? You think Van would not take credit for every single thing he ever did?
2:09:59 Speaker 04 I actually kind of think he would, or like that he would hide behind it. It would never reveal it to anybody.
2:10:03 Speaker 06 If I, if I was Banksy.
2:10:04 Speaker 04 Yeah.
2:10:05 Speaker 06 There are other secrets about me you guys don't know.
2:10:06 Speaker 04 That's what I'm saying.
2:10:07 Speaker 06 Things that I've done. But, uh, but no.
2:10:09 Sean Fennessey? No, no one's listening. We're in the third hour.
2:10:11 Speaker 06 That movie ended up being like a big deal. You had to go see it and I went and saw it and I was blown away. I didn't really know as much about the entire Banksy thing, but I was really blown away.
2:10:20 Amanda Dobbins? What's Banksy's status right now? Like, what's going on?
2:10:23 Sean Fennessey? He's in the Department of Defense.
2:10:26 Speaker 03 I believe he was unmasked.
2:10:28 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, revealed.
2:10:28 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:10:29 Speaker 03 And was maybe facing some criminal charges.
2:10:33 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, well.
2:10:34 Speaker 06 Banksy, for what?
2:10:35 Speaker 03 Painting on the walls.
2:10:36 Speaker 06 Oh.
2:10:37 Amanda Dobbins? Vandalism.
2:10:38 Sean Fennessey? Defacing, yeah, public property.
2:10:40 Speaker 06 That's good, that's good. We can live with that.
2:10:42 Sean Fennessey? You feel he should be in prison, Chris?
2:10:43 Speaker 03 I know. I'm like, almost distracted by it.
2:10:46 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:10:46 Speaker 03 By Amanda's browsing, because she doesn't have like, any ad blockers on. So it's just like, crazy fucking pop-ups.
2:10:55 Amanda Dobbins? I asked you to stop fucking looking at my... Let me use the internet in peace. I said goodbye to the cookies.
2:11:01 Speaker 03 Uh huh.
2:11:02 Amanda Dobbins? And now I've learned that Banksy's name is Robin Gunningham, but we've apparently known this as far back as 2008. If you read the mail on Sunday. What? I'm reading CNN.com, okay?
2:11:13 Sean Fennessey? See, or you have a pick.
2:11:15 Speaker 03 Uh, in foreign film, I'm gonna take On Sunday.
2:11:17 Amanda Dobbins? Ah. So, I'd like to talk about this for... Oh no, I Googled it again and it is eligible. I'm sorry, I retract. I retract my interruption.
2:11:25 Speaker 05 Tough for Villenuev five here.
2:11:25 Speaker 03 Uh, Demi Villenuev's 2010 film about, uh, Poison Inheritance. And it's a theme that I think runs through a lot of his films and can even be seen in Dune. Uh, and this one has got one of the most remarkable unsettling chilling endings of any movie we'll ever see.
2:11:42 Speaker 05 Watched it last night for the first time, had a great time.
2:11:44 Speaker 06 Did it really?
2:11:45 Speaker 05 Amazing movie.
2:11:46 Sean Fennessey? Oh, it's a, it's a, it's a, it hurts.
2:11:48 Speaker 03 Really?
2:11:49 Speaker 04 I saw this here in theaters as part of Bleak Week. When the reveal happens that you're talking about, it is like, the oxygen got sucked out of the room.
2:11:55 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:11:55 Speaker 04 And it never comes back and, I don't know, call your moms.
2:11:58 Speaker 03 Changes your relationship to swimming pools for a while.
2:12:00 Speaker 04 It certainly does.
2:12:00 Sean Fennessey? I did, uh, a Q and A with Ari Aster after a screening of Hereditary on Bleak Week, and the film that was happening immediately after that was that screening of On Sunday that you're talking about. And I met a guy in between screenings and he was like, "I'm not leaving, I'm staying for On Sunday." And I was like, "That's quite a day, sir." Hereditary, right into us. That's a tough one. Great pick. Very, very good movie. Another movie that is, that's kind of a one and done for me. I don't revisit that one.
2:12:25 Speaker 07 Did you consider taking an animated film?
2:12:27 Speaker 03 No.
2:12:28 Speaker 07 Given your passion for the form? No?
2:12:29 Speaker 03 I don't think I had one even on the long list here.
2:12:32 Sean Fennessey? So, Ciara, you got another pick?
2:12:33 Speaker 03 No, it's Joe.
2:12:34 Speaker 07 Joe.
2:12:34 Sean Fennessey? Joe, excuse me. Joe, you got two picks.
2:12:36 Speaker 05 In foreign language slash animated, I will be taking Beautiful, starring Javier Bardem.
2:12:43 Speaker 03 Our guy.
2:12:44 Speaker 05 Our guy, Cape Fear Summer. Uh, I love this movie. This is a, it's a really tough watch, but this is like, this is like something he does pretty soon after his Oscar win. And I, I think it's like a really interesting post-Oscar win choice in a reto. Um, that's my choice for foreign language film.
2:13:06 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
2:13:07 Speaker 05 Then in Oscar nominee, I will take Inside Job. Documentary about the financial.
2:13:18 Speaker 07 Ooh.
2:13:19 Sean Fennessey? Great movie.
2:13:20 Speaker 03 Really good pick.
2:13:20 Speaker 07 That's a good pick.
2:13:22 Speaker 05 Don't, don't sound so surprised.
2:13:23 Speaker 07 No.
2:13:26 Speaker 07 That's why I'm about to just like, ooh.
2:13:28 Sean Fennessey? Married by Matt Damon, right?
2:13:30 Speaker 07 Yes. That's right.
2:13:31 Sean Fennessey? Charles Ferguson. This is also, we, we've hit a stretch of deeply depressing films.
2:13:37 Speaker 07 Yeah, this is a.
2:13:38 Sean Fennessey? In consecutive order here.
2:13:39 Speaker 07 Boy.
2:13:39 Sean Fennessey? On Sunday into Beautiful, into Inside Job is.
2:13:43 Speaker 07 Yeah.
2:13:43 Sean Fennessey? That's a dark, that's a dark core. Yeah.
2:13:47 Speaker 03 The air has kind of gone out of the room.
2:13:48 Sean Fennessey? Inside Job feels like a billion years ago in documentary where I was like, this film could make change. If people watched this, they would realize that the world.
2:13:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's like, we watched Social Network and Inside Job, we're good.
2:13:57 Speaker 05 It was really a time when we were like, wow, uh, we're gonna fix global warming. We're gonna fix like, fix all of it. And guess what? We didn't.
2:14:05 Sean Fennessey? No, we didn't.
2:14:06 Speaker 05 We didn't do that.
2:14:06 Sean Fennessey? Whose fault? Was that our fault? Did we blow it?
2:14:10 Speaker 05 I'm gonna blame the boomers. Not, not our fault.
2:14:12 Speaker 07 They didn't get out of the way.
2:14:13 Sean Fennessey? Do you take any responsibility?
2:14:14 Speaker 06 For what? For, for the, the state of the world?
2:14:17 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm.
2:14:17 Speaker 06 A little bit.
2:14:18 Speaker 07 Stomach makes.
2:14:19 Sean Fennessey? It's kind of getting to that time.
2:14:20 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:14:21 Sean Fennessey? Where like, I, I could have done something.
2:14:23 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:14:24 Sean Fennessey? You know, I could have ran for city council.
2:14:25 Speaker 06 I chose TMZ.
2:14:26 Sean Fennessey? I chose not to.
2:14:27 Speaker 03 You should.
2:14:28 Speaker 07 Do you think you'd be elected?
2:14:29 Sean Fennessey? Too late. White Mill.
2:14:31 Speaker 07 What's your platform?
2:14:33 Sean Fennessey? Brown hair.
2:14:34 Speaker 03 Do you think that? You want a hinge profile? What's happening?
2:14:37 Sean Fennessey? I think that's what America is looking for, unfortunately, in this dark time.
2:14:41 Speaker 03 Would we be in the same city council seat if we ran against each other?
2:14:44 Sean Fennessey? I don't think we share.
2:14:45 Speaker 06 Now, now, I'll say this. This is a question. The question is, if you two run.
2:14:51 Sean Fennessey? On the same ticket or against each other?
2:14:53 Speaker 06 Against each other. Fuck that same ticket shit.
2:14:54 Sean Fennessey? I mean, Chris would win, obviously.
2:14:56 Speaker 06 Chris wins?
2:14:56 Speaker 07 That's for sure.
2:14:57 Speaker 06 Chris, Chris, God bless you. Chris wins for sure if, if you guys run against each other. What if you have to run against Rob?
2:15:04 Speaker 03 I'm losing.
2:15:05 Speaker 06 Rob is tall.
2:15:07 Speaker 03 You already did. Who's the face of the ringer? Who was it? Who won?
2:15:10 Speaker 07 Mallory, no.
2:15:11 Speaker 03 Then Mallory's the answer. She's our councilwoman now.
2:15:13 Speaker 07 Public office is not for me.
2:15:15 Speaker 03 Okay, then Chris is our councilman now.
2:15:16 Speaker 07 Chris would win the vote.
2:15:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, I have some skeletons, though.
2:15:19 Speaker 07 What's your, what's your platform? Do you want to workshop it right here in real time? What's your, what are your policies?
2:15:24 Sean Fennessey? The thing is, is nobody knows more about your skeletons than I do.
2:15:27 Speaker 07 Who would you invite to be in your camp?
2:15:28 Sean Fennessey? If we were to run against each other.
2:15:29 Speaker 05 And we know that you would do it.
2:15:30 Speaker 07 Would you mud sling against CR?
2:15:32 Speaker 06 You would mud sling against him?
2:15:33 Sean Fennessey? Win at all costs.
2:15:34 Speaker 06 So you, so you wouldn't?
2:15:35 Sean Fennessey? I would never betray Chris.
2:15:36 Speaker 05 Mr. Six out of 10 first pick would definitely sling mud.
2:15:38 Sean Fennessey? I would nev- I would never betray Chris. The rest of you guys can fuck off. But I would never betray Chris.
2:15:43 Speaker 03 Uh, I, my platform would be, let's just have the World Cup every day forever.
2:15:48 Speaker 05 I mean, it's not bad.
2:15:49 Speaker 07 That would make everything better, honestly.
2:15:50 Sean Fennessey? I don't think city councilmen can really make that.
2:15:54 Speaker 06 I'm, I'm Mr. World Cup after seeing these videos.
2:15:57 Speaker 03 I know.
2:15:57 Speaker 05 Would you get, would that fire be out if you were in charge?
2:16:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, for sure. I would put it out.
2:16:02 Speaker 06 Would it never start it?
2:16:03 Speaker 05 Yeah.
2:16:04 Sean Fennessey? You have a pick here?
2:16:05 Speaker 03 Uh, is it me or did you?
2:16:06 Sean Fennessey? Joanna took two films.
2:16:06 Speaker 03 Uh, I will take an original.
2:16:12 Speaker 03 Where did it go? I had it and I was like, great idea, Chris.
2:16:19 Speaker 03 Sorry.
2:16:20 Speaker 05 It's fine. I'm just scrolling lists of movies.
2:16:22 Speaker 03 An original, I'm taking, uh, Brooklyn's finest. The Antoine Fuqua movie. It's original.
2:16:29 Sean Fennessey? Uh huh.
2:16:30 Speaker 03 Stars Richard Gere, Ethan Hawke. Wesley Snipes.
2:16:34 Speaker 06 What do you think I'm about to say?
2:16:35 Speaker 03 That it's awesome?
2:16:36 Speaker 06 I liked it.
2:16:38 Speaker 03 Yours was really good.
2:16:39 Speaker 06 I liked it.
2:16:40 Speaker 05 Guys in different cities doing things?
2:16:41 Speaker 03 No lie.
2:16:42 Speaker 05 Yeah.
2:16:42 Speaker 03 One of Ethan Hawke's best.
2:16:43 Speaker 06 Yeah, like.
2:16:44 Speaker 03 Whoa, yeah. I believe he's married to Lily Taylor in this film.
2:16:50 Amanda Dobbins? What else happens?
2:16:51 Speaker 03 Uh, he's corrupt. Richard Gere is being corrupted. Uh, Cheadle, Wesley Snipes undercover situation there. It's just a really solid, uh, six out of 10 cop movie.
2:17:06 Speaker 07 Six out of, well, that's where you should.
2:17:08 Speaker 06 So movie that you thought, you could tell that they thought it was gonna be a much better.
2:17:11 Speaker 03 They thought it was gonna be Training Day.
2:17:12 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:17:12 Speaker 03 And it turned out it wasn't, but it was still, Ethan was cooking.
2:17:17 Speaker 04 Great job.
2:17:18 Speaker 03 Thanks.
2:17:19 Amanda Dobbins? Rob, what category did you take?
2:17:21 Speaker 07 Good.
2:17:22 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, there. Oh, franchise film was MacGruber?
2:17:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, it has a spinoff TV series.
2:17:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:17:27 Amanda Dobbins? Oh.
2:17:28 Speaker 03 I tried to take Unstoppable original and apparently it happened once.
2:17:33 Sean Fennessey? The movie wouldn't exist without the incident.
2:17:36 Speaker 07 Okay.
2:17:36 Speaker 03 I think they would have happened upon that plotline eventually, even if it hadn't happened.
2:17:40 Sean Fennessey? But it would have been on in 2010.
2:17:41 Speaker 03 Okay.
2:17:41 Speaker 07 Okay.
2:17:42 Sean Fennessey? Rob?
2:17:45 Speaker 03 Is it me?
2:17:46 Speaker 04 It's Van.
2:17:47 Sean Fennessey? It's Van.
2:17:47 Speaker 07 Okay.
2:17:47 Sean Fennessey? Van?
2:17:48 Speaker 04 Van.
2:17:48 Speaker 06 Oh, wildcard, yeah. Wildcard time.
2:17:53 Speaker 07 I'm like scared.
2:17:54 Speaker 06 Due Date.
2:17:55 Speaker 03 Yes, I love Due Date.
2:17:57 Speaker 06 I like Due Date.
2:17:58 Speaker 03 Due Date's great.
2:17:58 Amanda Dobbins? Which one is, I mean, I remember, I, what's Due Date again?
2:18:01 Speaker 03 It's Robert Downey Jr. and Zach Galifianakis. And it's like.
2:18:04 Speaker 07 Oh, right.
2:18:05 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, and the dog.
2:18:07 Speaker 06 It's like, let's, let's, let's, what if Zach Galifianakis was doing the same thing in another movie? You like.
2:18:12 Speaker 07 But Downey's here.
2:18:12 Speaker 06 But Downey's here.
2:18:13 Speaker 07 It's Iron Man.
2:18:14 Speaker 06 It's Iron Man and Galifianakis together, hijinks. I wouldn't saw.
2:18:18 Speaker 03 Isn't McBride in this, doesn't he, isn't he in this, in, in Due Date?
2:18:21 Amanda Dobbins? Yes, he is. Western Union employee Lonnie.
2:18:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, and he's like, I got reservations at Chili's later.
2:18:31 Speaker 06 Fun, funny. I liked it. Very fun. That's it. Due Date.
2:18:36 Speaker 03 Forty-nine movies, they can't all be winners.
2:18:37 Speaker 07 It's almost like there are forty-nine movies for us to draft.
2:18:40 Amanda Dobbins? I don't think I remember this one. Did I not see this?
2:18:42 Speaker 06 Hey, man, that bitch came and went.
2:18:45 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
2:18:45 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:18:45 Speaker 03 I think it made some money.
2:18:46 Speaker 06 No, it did make some money.
2:18:47 Sean Fennessey? It was a little disappointing because Downey was like, I'm back, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and here's what I'm gonna do with it. I'm gonna do Due Date and The Judge. And we were like, this is what you're gonna do with this?
2:18:56 Speaker 06 Well, The Judge, you could tell he thought.
2:18:58 Sean Fennessey? He wanted that Oscar.
2:18:58 Speaker 06 I'm about to get on stage, man. Robert Duvall dies in this bitch.
2:19:02 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:19:02 Speaker 06 You could tell that he thought he was gonna, and then some of the other choices.
2:19:06 Sean Fennessey? Sherlock Holmes.
2:19:06 Speaker 06 Sherlock Holmes. The first one is serviceable, the second one was bad.
2:19:09 Sean Fennessey? Tough. Game of Shadows.
2:19:11 Speaker 06 Game of Shadows.
2:19:12 Sean Fennessey? Game of Shadows. Shadows. Shadows. Now, Sean Connery, I'm not gonna do Sean Connery. If he were, if he were Sherlock Holmes in that film, I would have enjoyed that.
2:19:19 Speaker 03 If he had been Zach Galifianakis in Due Date, do you think that would have been a better movie?
2:19:22 Sean Fennessey? Do you think Sean Connery could see Chris Ryan in a? Yeah.
2:19:25 Speaker 06 Did you see the League?
2:19:26 Sean Fennessey? The Fox Brothers.
2:19:27 Speaker 06 Did you see The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?
2:19:29 Sean Fennessey? Of course I did. Of course.
2:19:30 Speaker 03 Come on.
2:19:30 Speaker 06 You guys like it?
2:19:31 Sean Fennessey? It was not released in 2010. Opening.
2:19:32 Speaker 03 You liked it?
2:19:33 Speaker 06 I liked it!
2:19:34 Speaker 03 You liked it? I'm starting to lose track of who's drafted.
2:19:36 Sean Fennessey? Well, it's because you're like a real Dorian Gray guy. Alex G. Always been a real Dorian Gray guy.
2:19:40 Speaker 03 Extraordinary Gentlemen.
2:19:41 Speaker 06 Actually, that movie was the start of it.
2:19:42 Speaker 03 It is Rob's turn to draft.
2:19:44 Speaker 04 Uh, in comedy, I will be selecting another year. I'm having a personal Mike Lee summer. This has been a huge blind spot for me for a long time. I'm starting to rectify it. I'm just all out here like drinking tea and having overdue emotional conversations.
2:19:57 Sean Fennessey? This is a solid one. That's a good one. Yeah.
2:19:58 Speaker 04 Really good movie.
2:19:59 Sean Fennessey? Good pick.
2:19:59 Speaker 04 Honestly, I was shocked at how much it was like in Fargo, if it was just like Marge and her husband having people over for dinner all the time. If that was the whole plot of the movie, fucking loved it.
2:20:08 Speaker 03 Do you think he's aura farming right now? Do you think he's like, like, look me up on Letterboxd, I'm Rob? I'm, I'm. Can't a guy just pick movies he likes while these guys pick for clues?
2:20:17 Sean Fennessey? You know, he can just taste flex, which, you know, we could all taste flex. He did also pick MacGruber, so.
2:20:23 Speaker 03 True, but even MacGruber is considered like a cult favorite, you know?
2:20:27 Sean Fennessey? Alright. I have, I think there's nothing wrong with it. I think you're picking great movies.
2:20:31 Speaker 03 It seems like you're shaming me for picking a good movie.
2:20:33 Sean Fennessey? You're picking great films? There's nothing wrong with it. I think people who listen to this think, if I were on here, I too would taste flex, but nobody cares about that.
2:20:41 Speaker 03 Wow.
2:20:42 Sean Fennessey? That's not.
2:20:42 Speaker 03 Also, it get, it, when the fucking lights are on.
2:20:45 Sean Fennessey? That's right.
2:20:45 Speaker 03 You know, and Mal's interrupting me.
2:20:48 Sean Fennessey? You have to-
2:20:49 Speaker 05 Someone said easy A is based on the Scarlet Letter, which it's not.
2:20:52 Sean Fennessey? That's right, that's right. You have to take Brooklyn's finest. Yeah, you gotta take train movies, you know? Mike Lee, but go fuck yourself. I have to take Brooklyn's finest. Uh, okay, Amanda.
2:21:03 Amanda Dobbins? So I have Franchise and Wild Card left. And in Franchise, I thought it was gonna be cute, but then, I guess-
2:21:10 Speaker 03 I thought you took the-
2:21:11 Amanda Dobbins? That was in Blockbuster?
2:21:13 Speaker 03 Oh, sorry, okay.
2:21:14 Amanda Dobbins? Yep. Though it turns out that I could've just slipped them, but I didn't realize that Harry Potter's still on the board, so I guess I'll do that. It's fine. Harry Potter's in the- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, part one.
2:21:25 Speaker 03 Part one.
2:21:26 Amanda Dobbins? That's right. Which I've seen.
2:21:28 Sean Fennessey? Let's talk about the decision to split them up. Good?
2:21:30 Speaker 05 Hmm. I mean, essential, honestly.
2:21:33 Speaker 07 I think for, yeah. Frankly, it probably should've happened sooner. I'm a, I'm a fan of part one. That's one of the better movies, even though it was not one of the better reviewed movies.
2:21:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:21:43 Sean Fennessey? I remember liking both of the final two chapters.
2:21:46 Amanda Dobbins? I remember, I mean, it's like, it's emotional and because-
2:21:48 Speaker 07 Some of the most heart-wrenching moments are in that.
2:21:49 Amanda Dobbins? Yes, exactly. And because they split it up, like, all of the good stuff is in part one, and then part two, it's a little bit of like Wicked Wicked 2 situation. Yeah. I mean, listen-
2:21:58 Speaker 07 I get it, you choose him.
2:22:01 Speaker 03 Except for Wicked?
2:22:03 Speaker 07 That's a Linda's- How would you- How would you respond to having a Horcrux locket on him? What do you think? Based on what you've seen today?
2:22:09 Amanda Dobbins? So, Harry Potter, anything?
2:22:11 Speaker 03 Uh, I've seen the Alphonsa Coromone-
2:22:13 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, that's good. It was not released in 2010.
2:22:15 Speaker 03 One day, I was at a bar, and it was on on mute, but I don't know which movie it was, but I was like, bet.
2:22:21 Speaker 05 What happened in it? What happened?
2:22:25 Speaker 03 They got to school. It was like when they first got to school.
2:22:27 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, oh, okay, so that's probably the first one, the first time? So they were little?
2:22:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:22:31 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:22:32 Speaker 05 Is saying I've only seen the Coromone, Ora Farming?
2:22:35 Speaker 07 Yes, definitely.
2:22:37 Speaker 03 I didn't say I don't Ora Farm.
2:22:39 Sean Fennessey? It's a real, it takes one to know one's situation.
2:22:43 Speaker 03 It's also strange now, in retrospect, that I was at a bar that was playing the first Harry Potter.
2:22:47 Speaker 06 Like, why? Yeah, what the fuck?
2:22:50 Speaker 07 Was it like Christmas?
2:22:51 Amanda Dobbins? At least with the first four movies, they go-
2:22:53 Speaker 07 Then that's probably why.
2:22:53 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, because-
2:22:54 Speaker 07 If it was Christmas.
2:22:55 Amanda Dobbins? It was probably just like they put on a family and they're like-
2:22:57 Speaker 06 What happens to Harry at the end?
2:22:59 Amanda Dobbins? Of Harry Potter? You don't know?
2:23:01 Speaker 06 No, what happens to him?
2:23:02 Speaker 05 He becomes a cop.
2:23:04 Sean Fennessey? Honestly, true.
2:23:05 Speaker 06 To me, the motherfucker already was a cop.
2:23:06 Speaker 07 He does officially a cop with a badge.
2:23:09 Speaker 06 What happens to him, seriously, though?
2:23:10 Sean Fennessey? He becomes a cop. That's not a joke.
2:23:11 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:23:12 Speaker 06 Harry Potter becomes a police officer?
2:23:14 Speaker 07 He becomes an Ora, which is a cop.
2:23:16 Sean Fennessey? A wizard cop.
2:23:18 Speaker 06 Like I'll do it all of this shit.
2:23:20 Amanda Dobbins? But that's in part two. In part one, he just has to face his demons. So.
2:23:24 Speaker 07 And then he shows up in Brooklyn's fine.
2:23:25 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:23:27 Speaker 06 He really becomes a coparue?
2:23:28 Speaker 07 He becomes an horror.
2:23:29 Sean Fennessey? This is not a bit.
2:23:30 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
2:23:30 Speaker 07 Not a bit.
2:23:31 Speaker 06 All of that shit for some copaganda, man. That's nuts. Harry Potter. I didn't know that.
2:23:34 Sean Fennessey? Consider the source.
2:23:35 Speaker 06 He didn't die?
2:23:36 Speaker 07 Well, he sacrifices himself. I'll send you a chapter. It's called The Forest Again.
2:23:41 Amanda Dobbins? I'll be honest, that part of the mythology is a little rickety.
2:23:45 Speaker 07 He kind of King's Cross. He's Jesus' cop.
2:23:47 Amanda Dobbins? Jesus' cop.
2:23:48 Speaker 07 Goes to King's Cross Station.
2:23:49 Amanda Dobbins? Jesus' cop.
2:23:50 Speaker 07 There we have to explain Horcrux to you and it's not. There's no time.
2:23:53 Sean Fennessey? One character.
2:23:54 Speaker 06 Yeah. Jesus and police.
2:23:56 Amanda Dobbins? It's like, that part doesn't land. There's another chapter involving another character that really does land in part two, and that should have been the end of it, but no one.
2:24:04 Speaker 07 Princess Tale?
2:24:05 Amanda Dobbins? I think so. I mean, is that the?
2:24:07 Speaker 06 Sounds messy.
2:24:08 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. I mean, that's like the real conclusion of it, but no one asked me for edits. Anyway.
2:24:13 Speaker 06 Andy about to fix that shit.
2:24:16 Sean Fennessey? I said, he's got it sewn up. He's got it.
2:24:19 Speaker 07 You think Andy's changing the ending?
2:24:20 Speaker 06 Andy's about to fix that shit. Look, Andy's gonna be like, excuse me. Doesn't work.
2:24:25 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
2:24:27 Sean Fennessey? I'm out.
2:24:27 Amanda Dobbins? I was gonna do Step Up 3D, but.
2:24:29 Speaker 07 You still can. You have one more pick. You have a wild card pick coming up, so.
2:24:33 Sean Fennessey? Oh, I saw it in theaters.
2:24:34 Speaker 07 Like six out of 10? What'd you say?
2:24:35 Amanda Dobbins? No, it's like, you know, I like it and I would, I would prefer that John M Chu kept making Step Up movies to whatever he was doing.
2:24:42 Sean Fennessey? Step Up to the Streets.
2:24:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
2:24:44 Sean Fennessey? Both fine films.
2:24:45 Amanda Dobbins? Step Up to the Streets was great, and I also enjoyed Step Up Revolution.
2:24:49 Speaker 07 But it's just why we got those versions in the Heights.
2:24:52 Sean Fennessey? On Revolution for me.
2:24:53 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:24:54 Sean Fennessey? Step Up to the Streets saw in theaters with like 15 Grandland employees and we were like, this is cinema.
2:24:58 Speaker 06 The original Step Up is legit, was legitimately one of those moments where I was like, you know, it was almost like the cutting edge.
2:25:04 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:25:05 Speaker 06 Where I was like, yeah, I'm gonna be fucking with this movie forever.
2:25:07 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:25:07 Amanda Dobbins? Of course.
2:25:08 Sean Fennessey? I liked it.
2:25:08 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:25:09 Amanda Dobbins? I liked it. Excellent. Three, 3D.
2:25:12 Speaker 07 Do you watch The Cutting Edge with your mom?
2:25:13 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:25:13 Speaker 07 Top pick.
2:25:14 Speaker 06 Definitely. Top pick.
2:25:15 Amanda Dobbins? Then you gotta do Morning Glory.
2:25:16 Speaker 06 Yeah, I don't know.
2:25:18 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I'm just.
2:25:19 Speaker 06 We've been doing Harrison Ford Sundays at the house.
2:25:22 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:25:22 Speaker 07 Wonderful.
2:25:23 Amanda Dobbins? So there you go.
2:25:23 Speaker 06 Three.
2:25:24 Amanda Dobbins? He's in Morning Glory. Did we make that clear?
2:25:26 Speaker 06 Yeah, that's what they said. So we'll do, we'll do it, we'll do it next Sunday. We'll do Harrison Ford on Sunday.
2:25:31 Speaker 03 Who's picking it?
2:25:32 Sean Fennessey? Did you guys do Captain America Brave New World yet?
2:25:35 Speaker 06 Not yet.
2:25:35 Sean Fennessey? Harrison Ford Sundays?
2:25:36 Speaker 06 No.
2:25:36 Sean Fennessey? Red Hole?
2:25:37 Speaker 06 We did Patriot Games. A Clear Present Danger.
2:25:40 Amanda Dobbins? Yep.
2:25:41 Speaker 05 Oh, Jack Ryan Sundays.
2:25:42 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:25:43 Speaker 07 Clear Present Danger.
2:25:44 Speaker 06 This past Sunday, Air Force One.
2:25:47 Sean Fennessey? Nice.
2:25:47 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:25:48 Sean Fennessey? Get off my plane.
2:25:49 Speaker 05 So some real...
2:25:50 Amanda Dobbins? So you did geopolitical Harrison Ford? Okay.
2:25:52 Speaker 03 Will you do frantic?
2:25:54 Speaker 06 Well, I said that next Sunday was gonna be Witness, and then, and then...
2:26:00 Speaker 06 But I think it's gonna be Morning Glory now. We've been doing Harrison...
2:26:03 Sean Fennessey? Can I put something on your radar?
2:26:04 Speaker 06 What?
2:26:05 Sean Fennessey? Hanover Street?
2:26:06 Speaker 07 Witness, one of the best movies ever made. Frantic is worth a watch.
2:26:09 Speaker 05 I mean, Witness, Frantic, Working Girls, the late 80s. Remember when you and I watched Frantic for the first time and we're just texting screenshots back and forth to each other?
2:26:17 Speaker 07 I mean, he snorts cocaine in a bathroom stall in that movie.
2:26:19 Speaker 05 He sure does.
2:26:20 Speaker 07 If you're not gonna text your friends about that, why have a phone? Why watch movies?
2:26:24 Speaker 06 I put Blade Runner on.
2:26:26 Amanda Dobbins? Wow.
2:26:27 Speaker 06 Fifteen minutes, my mom was knocked the fuck out.
2:26:31 Speaker 05 Knocked out by like how clean it is?
2:26:34 Speaker 03 Maybe she needed the voiceover, you know?
2:26:36 Speaker 06 Yeah, she was fucking done.
2:26:38 Speaker 05 Yeah.
2:26:39 Speaker 06 She was like, "I can't do this one, son."
2:26:41 Speaker 07 That's quite sad.
2:26:42 Speaker 05 What's big is it?
2:26:43 Sean Fennessey? I have a pick.
2:26:45 Sean Fennessey? I can't believe this happened. I didn't even put this down on my board, but I realized for franchise film, I'll be taking Insidious, which is the first installment in a long-running horror series that continues on this year. Insidious: Into the Further, directed by James Wan, huge breakout hit, really solid horror movie. Did it on the rewatchable some years ago.
2:27:06 Sean Fennessey? Our homies, Patrick Wilson and Rose Byrne, friends of the pod, never met either one of them.
2:27:11 Sean Fennessey? Love their work. Incredible stuff that they are doing.
2:27:15 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, second Patrick Wilson film.
2:27:17 Speaker 03 Here's the thing, it's always Patrick Wilson. You could tell me that Patrick Wilson's net worth was like 800 million dollars.
2:27:21 Amanda Dobbins? I was gonna say, didn't he just get so much money now?
2:27:24 Speaker 03 I think he had points on this.
2:27:25 Amanda Dobbins? From Conjuring and everything? I mean, I'm happy for him.
2:27:28 Sean Fennessey? He did direct the most recent installment of the Insidious franchise. These movies are good. The demon appearing behind, is it behind Rose Byrne? When they're having the conversation at the table?
2:27:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:27:38 Sean Fennessey? That's real shit.
2:27:39 Speaker 06 Why are they in every movie? I don't know. Who are they in the movies? I've never seen any of these.
2:27:43 Sean Fennessey? Who are they?
2:27:43 Speaker 06 I worship the devil.
2:27:44 Sean Fennessey? They're Josh and Renee Lambert. They're American.
2:27:46 Speaker 06 Who are they? Who are they in the movies? Like, why are they in everyone? Are they like Ghostbusters? Patrick Wilson and Rose, like they-
2:27:52 Sean Fennessey? They're a married couple who is, who are being haunted by this demon.
2:27:56 Speaker 06 Oh.
2:27:56 Sean Fennessey? And then the demon comes through.
2:27:57 Speaker 03 I don't know why, am I thinking of The Conjuring?
2:27:58 Amanda Dobbins? I'm thinking of The Conjuring.
2:28:00 Speaker 03 Yes, they are demon hunters.
2:28:01 Amanda Dobbins? Beer Farmiga.
2:28:02 Speaker 06 Beer Farmiga.
2:28:03 Speaker 03 Paranormal.
2:28:04 Amanda Dobbins? Right, so that's a different one, yeah.
2:28:05 Speaker 06 And then they also, but they go around, they're ghostbusters in that one, like, basically.
2:28:09 Amanda Dobbins? Does Patrick Wilson do any theater anymore?
2:28:11 Sean Fennessey? Paranormal investigator. She is like a medium.
2:28:13 Amanda Dobbins? But like, have you heard about it?
2:28:15 Speaker 06 But Inzias is not connected to that.
2:28:16 Amanda Dobbins? Patrick Wilson-
2:28:17 Sean Fennessey? Same director.
2:28:18 Speaker 06 Same director.
2:28:18 Sean Fennessey? James Wan is the director and producer of both the film series.
2:28:21 Speaker 06 Oh, yeah, this is the one where, okay, so they're in the house and like, they're looking around, there's ghosts everywhere.
2:28:26 Amanda Dobbins? Like the third row of the Tonys this year.
2:28:27 Speaker 06 I've seen clips.
2:28:28 Amanda Dobbins? Well, yeah, no, I mean, he has a storied career, but like, he doesn't, he doesn't use that magical voice anymore?
2:28:34 Speaker 05 Third row, actually.
2:28:35 Speaker 06 What are you talking about?
2:28:36 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, okay, Patrick Wilson, he doesn't, he doesn't do any more theater. Even though he has all the money in the world.
2:28:42 Speaker 06 He kind of a man when you think about it, though.
2:28:44 Sean Fennessey? That's your pick.
2:28:44 Amanda Dobbins? I don't-
2:28:45 Sean Fennessey? Don't have to think about it that hard, it's true.
2:28:47 Speaker 05 How did you describe his brand?
2:28:47 Amanda Dobbins? He's a producer on The Lost Boys, I'm learning.
2:28:50 Sean Fennessey? Speaking of Jake Kelly, incredible five minute flex by Patrick Wilson.
2:28:53 Amanda Dobbins? Unbelievable, and he's so good, and the casting is so delightful.
2:28:57 Speaker 06 He's not a man in that you wouldn't think about it, but when you think about it, he's a man.
2:29:01 Amanda Dobbins? According to, according to, uh, playbill.com, the last time he was on Broadway was in The Normal Heart in 2010.
2:29:10 Speaker 05 Oh, I love The Normal Heart.
2:29:12 Amanda Dobbins? Well-
2:29:12 Sean Fennessey? I saw it, it was great.
2:29:13 Amanda Dobbins? But that's 16 years ago.
2:29:15 Speaker 03 Damn.
2:29:16 Sean Fennessey? I'm glad we brought him over.
2:29:16 Amanda Dobbins? Remember that Gap commercial with Claire Danes?
2:29:18 Sean Fennessey? Less staged.
2:29:19 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:29:19 Amanda Dobbins? Anyone about that commercial all the time?
2:29:21 Sean Fennessey? Really great, yeah.
2:29:22 Speaker 05 And you can do that, you can do better.
2:29:23 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, and then there's, there's, it's great stuff, they should re-release those cackies.
2:29:27 Speaker 05 Equally charming hard candy.
2:29:28 Sean Fennessey? Remember using girls?
2:29:30 Amanda Dobbins? Sure do. Great episode, yeah.
2:29:31 Sean Fennessey? That was awesome, yeah.
2:29:32 Speaker 05 Memorable.
2:29:33 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, if you, if you want to just list like Patrick Wilson being hot in movies-
2:29:36 Speaker 05 Remember when he was in The Opera?
2:29:37 Sean Fennessey? Sure.
2:29:37 Amanda Dobbins? Sure, remember when he was in Little Children?
2:29:39 Speaker 05 Yes, I do.
2:29:40 Speaker 06 That was tough.
2:29:41 Sean Fennessey? I remember that.
2:29:41 Speaker 05 I do.
2:29:43 Speaker 07 I'm ready. We were just talking about how we feel like the...
2:29:45 Sean Fennessey? Forever hold your peace.
2:29:46 Speaker 03 You just gotta drive.
2:29:47 Speaker 07 Yeah, just go. All right, I'm ready to make my final two picks. My remaining two categories are foreign language slash animated and wildcard. I'm excited by both the movies I get to pick. I will be taking a foreign language movie now in that category. I thought Chris was gonna take this as high as possibly the second round. No joke, I will be taking A Prophet. You love that movie. I thought you were gonna take that. I'm really surprised it fell this far.
2:30:10 Speaker 03 Admittedly, I don't know.
2:30:11 Speaker 07 This is a loaded foreign language year, though. Well, it's the... It was... It was on Sean's Letterboxd and the US release was 2010.
2:30:19 Amanda Dobbins? It was Cannes 2009.
2:30:20 Speaker 07 Yeah, 2009 into 2010.
2:30:23 Sean Fennessey? For the record, animated foreign language was also a category that we did in the previous 2010 draft. And you selected it in that category.
2:30:31 Speaker 07 Yeah, you love that movie.
2:30:32 Speaker 03 It's changed a lot since then.
2:30:33 Speaker 07 I'm honestly shocked that you didn't pick it, but...
2:30:34 Speaker 05 It's always changing.
2:30:36 Sean Fennessey? More of a Brooklyn's finest guy now.
2:30:37 Speaker 07 I mean, this is a prison mob, like, under my wing crime movie.
2:30:42 Speaker 03 It's amazing.
2:30:43 Speaker 07 The fact that Chris didn't take it is astonishing, but yeah, wonderful performance, great movie. So that's my foreign language animated pick. And then in wildcard, I'm gonna take... I'm like wondering if maybe people don't like this movie as much as I do. I'm about to find out, I guess.
2:30:54 Speaker 05 I'm like astonished it's still available.
2:30:56 Speaker 07 Well, I had it. I'll just tell you guys, I had this seventh overall on my board.
2:30:59 Speaker 05 Uh huh.
2:31:00 Speaker 07 This was the movie I referenced earlier that I was almost gonna take when I ended up taking Winter's Bone. Maybe people don't like this movie. I love it. The kids are all right.
2:31:06 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:31:06 Speaker 07 I love that movie. It's a great Ruffalo performance, it's a great Julianne Moore performance. Hutcherson hive, always, obviously.
2:31:13 Sean Fennessey? So similar to Black Swan for me when it came out. Loved it, had a great time.
2:31:16 Speaker 04 I thought you meant like thematically.
2:31:17 Amanda Dobbins? I haven't seen it again.
2:31:18 Sean Fennessey? Haven't thought about it, really.
2:31:19 Speaker 07 Really? Oh, I've revisited that a couple of times.
2:31:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:31:21 Speaker 07 But I like...
2:31:23 Speaker 06 Delightful watch.
2:31:23 Speaker 07 You love complicated movie stories. Yes.
2:31:26 Speaker 03 You like complicated movie stories.
2:31:28 Speaker 07 I do.
2:31:29 Speaker 06 Great. I am surprised that amongst this group that it lasted as long as it did.
2:31:35 Speaker 04 What's that supposed to mean?
2:31:36 Speaker 07 We're very white.
2:31:37 Speaker 06 Yeah, very white. That movie is very white.
2:31:40 Sean Fennessey? Who's white?
2:31:40 Speaker 06 And, but, and it...
2:31:41 Speaker 03 I took Brooklyn's finest, so...
2:31:43 Speaker 06 But you know, CR is really kind of, you know, with the vibe.
2:31:47 Speaker 07 Oh, man, that's a wrap up my picks. Into the seventh round here.
2:31:50 Sean Fennessey? Kind of what?
2:31:51 Speaker 06 CR is like kind of a little bit...
2:31:53 Sean Fennessey? Honorary?
2:31:54 Speaker 06 I mean, I mean, I wouldn't go as far as to say honorary.
2:31:56 Sean Fennessey? What word would you use?
2:31:57 Speaker 06 I don't give out cookout invitations.
2:31:59 Speaker 03 It's fine.
2:32:00 Speaker 06 But... You know, me and him have had conversations about Gucci Mane.
2:32:05 Speaker 03 I texted him on Juneteenth and I felt immediately bad about it. I was like, it's not my place.
2:32:09 Sean Fennessey? Did you say happy Juneteenth?
2:32:11 Speaker 06 He didn't text me. Here's the thing. He did something worse.
2:32:15 Speaker 07 Do you say you're welcome for giving a day off work?
2:32:17 Speaker 06 He did something worse. He texted me on Juneteenth, but didn't refer to it.
2:32:22 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:32:22 Speaker 03 So. No, in fact, it was an Instagram of a dude listening to a 2009 rap mixtape.
2:32:29 Speaker 06 Right.
2:32:30 Speaker 03 When they used to have like, it's Mr. Thanksgiving, DJ Drama.
2:32:35 Sean Fennessey? Damn, son.
2:32:37 Speaker 06 Damn, son, where'd you find it?
2:32:40 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I know, I know. You know that I know.
2:32:42 Speaker 07 Okay.
2:32:43 Sean Fennessey? You know that I know. Uh, okay.
2:32:45 Speaker 06 Who doesn't know is Bill.
2:32:48 Speaker 03 We gotta feed these streets, son.
2:32:54 Sean Fennessey? We should get you doing drops on mixtapes.
2:32:56 Speaker 03 I was wondering.
2:32:59 Speaker 06 This is, we gotta add this one to the watchable list.
2:33:02 Speaker 03 But I would want to do it on Phoebe Burke's song.
2:33:06 Speaker 03 Damn, son, where'd you get this trauma? It's just like her singing.
2:33:19 Speaker 03 Damn, Phoebe.
2:33:29 Speaker 03 Where'd you get that skeleton shirt?
2:33:34 Speaker 07 Why'd you do that at Paul Meskell?
2:33:38 Sean Fennessey? Okay, it's me, right?
2:33:40 Speaker 07 Yep. Mm-hmm.
2:33:41 Sean Fennessey? I got Wild Card.
2:33:42 Speaker 07 Some good movies left.
2:33:43 Sean Fennessey? Some real good movies left. I'm gonna take one of them.
2:33:48 Speaker 07 Don't worry, I'll take the last. I'll take what's ever remaining. So does everyone just have Wild Card left?
2:33:53 Sean Fennessey? I'm taking The Safdie Brothers Daddy Long Legs, which is an amazing movie. Their first movie is, uh, very... Autobiographical portrait of a dad who do not have it together. Trying to take care of two boys. Ronald Bronstein, their co-writer and editor on a lot of their movies is the star of the movie. And so it's mostly like very running gun production. And there's a great Criterion edition of the movie, if you haven't seen it.
2:34:21 Sean Fennessey? And is kind of source code, I would say, for a lot of it, a lot of what they have done over the last 10 or 15 years.
2:34:26 Speaker 07 A real like following situation. This was one that, this was one that like, if I hadn't gotten to take Blue Valentine in original, I would have tried to take this late in original and seen if you would have allowed it. Cause it is so autobiographical for them.
2:34:39 Sean Fennessey? I haven't listed it in original, yeah, I know. It's the same thing where it's like contemporarily set, it's inspired by. But yeah, if you, I would encourage people to seek out interviews with the Safdie's where they talk about their dad. Cause it's quite interesting.
2:34:54 Speaker 03 Joe just swallowing her words every time we talk about what is an original and what is not. It's amazing.
2:34:59 Sean Fennessey? You feel that you were, you were wounded by the Easy A decision.
2:35:05 Speaker 07 Yes.
2:35:06 Sean Fennessey? And you're sucking your teeth.
2:35:08 Speaker 07 I think I'm right.
2:35:09 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
2:35:10 Speaker 07 That's all.
2:35:11 Sean Fennessey? This is a real R2-D2 should be allowed. Skywalker family.
2:35:14 Amanda Dobbins? The mini Chloreans are Skywalkers. I really do support you in all of your efforts, including Easy A, which is a wonderful film, but that seems pretty clear to me. But we love you and you're welcome back on the big picture anytime.
2:35:26 Speaker 07 Oh, I do welcome and I feel loved and respected.
2:35:28 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:35:29 Sean Fennessey? We're also right.
2:35:31 Speaker 07 We're also right.
2:35:33 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. I think it's me. Okay, in Wild Card, listen, like Remember Me is shining there for me and that is one of the most incredible film going experiences I've ever had. But I'm not gonna disrespect.
2:35:47 Speaker 07 Pierce Brosnan that way.
2:35:49 Amanda Dobbins? You know, everything that happened on, on that day by picking Remember Me. So I'm gonna do Please Give, the Nicole Holofcener movie, starring Catherine Keener.
2:36:01 Amanda Dobbins? With just the most enviable wardrobe of all time, but also Rebecca Hall. I got two Rebecca Hall movies. I feel good about that.
2:36:09 Sean Fennessey? That's great.
2:36:10 Amanda Dobbins? Amanda Peet, Oliver Platt. And, you know, it is firmly in the, you know, rich white people with small problems genre, but.
2:36:22 Sean Fennessey? Interesting.
2:36:23 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, but I couldn't have somewhere, so I have this instead.
2:36:30 Sean Fennessey? Where you got those problems?
2:36:40 Amanda Dobbins? And I, I love Nicole Holofender's work and I just, the ways in which everything is. They're more spoken than Sofia Coppola movies. They're more word focused, which I appreciate and, um, but still equally observed with the right amount of hating everybody else and also hating yourself and also hoping that things will be okay and having perfect furniture. So, thank you, Nicole Holofender.
2:37:08 Sean Fennessey? Rob, you can't steal that from Amanda now. What's next?
2:37:10 Speaker 04 I would never, uh, because I will be selecting the Donnie Yen classic Ip Man. Uh, in wildcard. Fucking amazing movie. I've never seen a dude get punched so many times on the way to the ground as in this movie.
2:37:23 Speaker 03 I've got regrets. Ip Man's there.
2:37:25 Speaker 04 Ip Man's really, yeah.
2:37:26 Speaker 03 It's there.
2:37:27 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. He left some stuff on the board.
2:37:29 Speaker 03 What's your profit five years ago, apparently? So.
2:37:31 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:37:32 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. It was six years ago.
2:37:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:37:34 Sean Fennessey? You're one year older than you think.
2:37:37 Speaker 07 Interestingly, there's a movie that you three all many times on the prior version of this draft were like, I can't believe we didn't pick this and none of you have taken it.
2:37:45 Sean Fennessey? Interesting.
2:37:46 Speaker 07 I'll reveal what it is at the end because Chris still has a pick, so he could take it still.
2:37:49 Amanda Dobbins? I'm on Tinder.
2:37:49 Speaker 03 I guarantee you that I'm not gonna, I'm not picking that.
2:37:52 Speaker 07 Is it burlesque?
2:37:56 Speaker 04 Is it a Serbian film?
2:37:59 Speaker 03 Uh, Van?
2:38:00 Speaker 07 Yeah.
2:38:01 Sean Fennessey? Van is up.
2:38:01 Speaker 06 I'm trying to see if I can, this movie had to be released in the United States, right?
2:38:05 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. Foreign language animated is your last category.
2:38:08 Speaker 06 Yeah. So I couldn't take the foreign language film I wanted to take.
2:38:11 Sean Fennessey? Which was what?
2:38:11 Speaker 03 Uncle Boon Me?
2:38:13 Speaker 06 No, it was Thirteen Assassins.
2:38:15 Sean Fennessey? Quality film.
2:38:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:38:16 Speaker 04 Not eligible.
2:38:17 Sean Fennessey? Quality film, luckily, it's 2011.
2:38:18 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:38:19 Sean Fennessey? Takashi Miike.
2:38:20 Speaker 06 Yeah. Uh, so that means I'm taking Megamind.
2:38:28 Speaker 07 Incredible moment.
2:38:30 Speaker 06 It's so.
2:38:32 Speaker 07 Oh my god.
2:38:34 Speaker 06 Animated film.
2:38:36 Speaker 07 Oh my god.
2:38:37 Speaker 03 Isn't he in somebody else's universe?
2:38:39 Speaker 06 Megamind is, yeah.
2:38:40 Speaker 03 What's he, what's he a part of?
2:38:41 Speaker 06 I can't remember.
2:38:41 Speaker 03 A franchise?
2:38:42 Speaker 06 I only saw Megamind the one time, but I liked it when I saw it.
2:38:45 Speaker 07 Harvey's mom, I'm thinking of.
2:38:46 Speaker 03 Even for you, that was a really weak. I liked, I liked it.
2:38:49 Speaker 06 I liked it when I saw it. I only saw Megamind the one time. But I got, I got 13 assassins. Yeah, I was just, I'm looking at it to make sure it stays 2010.
2:38:59 Sean Fennessey? Insanely star-studded cast.
2:39:01 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah.
2:39:01 Speaker 06 Megamind, yeah, like Will Ferrell.
2:39:03 Speaker 07 Tina Fey.
2:39:04 Speaker 06 Tina Fey, who else is in it?
2:39:06 Sean Fennessey? Ben Stiller.
2:39:07 Speaker 06 Ben Stiller, yeah.
2:39:07 Sean Fennessey? Jonah Hill.
2:39:08 Speaker 07 Brad Pitt.
2:39:09 Speaker 06 Brad Pitt, yeah.
2:39:11 Speaker 07 That's right.
2:39:11 Speaker 03 Justin Theroux himself, the writer of Iron Man 2.
2:39:14 Speaker 06 Yeah. Oh, something else about it.
2:39:18 Speaker 06 Who did the music in Megamind?
2:39:20 Sean Fennessey? Hmm.
2:39:20 Speaker 06 I remember this.
2:39:21 Sean Fennessey? Was it Philip Glass? Who was it?
2:39:22 Speaker 06 It's Hans Zimmer.
2:39:23 Speaker 07 Hans Zimmer.
2:39:24 Speaker 03 He also did the music for this recent season of Euphoria. Allegedly.
2:39:28 Speaker 06 Did he?
2:39:28 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
2:39:29 Speaker 07 His team did, okay.
2:39:31 Speaker 03 His underling.
2:39:31 Speaker 07 The Zimmerites, yeah.
2:39:33 Sean Fennessey? The Zimmerets?
2:39:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:39:34 Sean Fennessey? It's not very nice. What, what if there were men and women involved?
2:39:38 Speaker 03 Is it my turn?
2:39:39 Speaker 07 It's gender new.
2:39:39 Speaker 03 It is.
2:39:40 Sean Fennessey? Is, is it's?
2:39:41 Speaker 07 Yeah, why not?
2:39:41 Speaker 03 In a wild card, but it could have been franchise. I'm gonna take Breck Eisner's The Crazies.
2:39:50 Speaker 07 Yeah, that's a CR pick. I love it.
2:39:52 Speaker 03 Uh, this is a remake of a 1973 George Romero movie. And much like Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead, it cooks.
2:40:01 Speaker 03 I think Romero creates a platform for people to do great work. And Timothy Olyphant plays a sheriff in a small Iowa town where there's a chemical outbreak that turns people into raging violent.
2:40:14 Sean Fennessey? Sort of zombies.
2:40:15 Speaker 03 Sort of zombies. Ronda Mitchell's in this, and I just love her. And this is an awesome movie, and I, this, one of my favorite little, like, subgenres is like, small town gone upside down in horror movies.
2:40:29 Sean Fennessey? Speak on the cinema of Breck Eisner.
2:40:31 Speaker 03 Well, he did this and he did Sahara. Is it my right?
2:40:33 Sean Fennessey? And are you familiar with anything else about him?
2:40:35 Speaker 03 I know that his father is Michael Eisner.
2:40:37 Sean Fennessey? His father's Michael Eisner.
2:40:38 Speaker 07 Okay, well.
2:40:39 Sean Fennessey? And his name is Breck.
2:40:42 Speaker 03 Isn't it, his name's probably something else and he changed, he's like, goes by Breck, right?
2:40:47 Sean Fennessey? Right.
2:40:47 Speaker 03 It's like a cool name.
2:40:48 Speaker 05 Like. Or Brecken.
2:40:49 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:40:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:40:50 Sean Fennessey? Tom Abrek or something. It's like a short for something.
2:40:53 Speaker 05 Brequin?
2:40:54 Sean Fennessey? Willabrek.
2:40:54 Speaker 05 Willabrek seems like it could be it.
2:40:56 Speaker 03 Damn, son.
2:40:57 Sean Fennessey? Damn, son. Where'd you find this name?
2:40:58 Speaker 04 Damn, son.
2:40:59 Sean Fennessey? Damn, Breck.
2:41:01 Speaker 05 Michael Breckenridge.
2:41:03 Speaker 03 I got it.
2:41:04 Speaker 05 Is it Breckenridge? Easy name. For Breckenridge. And they're like, Brexy.
2:41:08 Speaker 03 If it's 11.
2:41:09 Speaker 05 That'll be my professional name.
2:41:10 Speaker 03 If it's 11pm and you're like, ah, I don't feel like going to bed yet, watch the fucking crazies. It's, it's a really, really like solid two hours.
2:41:18 Speaker 04 How did you say they became crazy?
2:41:19 Speaker 03 Uh, there's like a, plane crashes with like some chemicals on it and it spreads throughout the town.
2:41:23 Speaker 04 Are you concerned at all that that's what's gonna happen to us?
2:41:26 Speaker 05 I am as soon as.
2:41:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, I, I'm not convinced that the chemicals have not led us to a four hour podcast.
2:41:34 Speaker 03 As Mike Johnson loses, loses control of the caucus.
2:41:38 Speaker 05 You had that on Wildcard?
2:41:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:41:39 Sean Fennessey? Okay, so is it Joanne? Is it the final pick?
2:41:42 Speaker 05 Yeah. Um, hold on one second.
2:41:45 Sean Fennessey? I think you have the very last pick.
2:41:47 Speaker 05 Um, can't believe there's a new prime minister.
2:41:51 Speaker 03 I know.
2:41:52 Speaker 05 You broke that news to me, bud.
2:41:54 Sean Fennessey? Wildcard is your category.
2:41:55 Speaker 05 Correct.
2:41:56 Sean Fennessey? You can take any film, undrafted, released in the year 2010.
2:42:00 Speaker 05 Some good ones left. Genuinely can't believe this is still available. Feels good. I'll be taking the trip. I almost picked that. I love that movie.
2:42:09 Speaker 04 Well, I have bad news, Joe.
2:42:10 Sean Fennessey? Unfortunately not a bit.
2:42:11 Speaker 04 It's not, it's not eligible.
2:42:12 Speaker 05 What do you mean?
2:42:13 Speaker 04 This is technically a 2011 US release.
2:42:16 Sean Fennessey? It was. I did, I did include it in the Letterboxd mistake.
2:42:18 Speaker 05 You put it on your Letterboxd. Oh, damn.
2:42:21 Speaker 03 Subterfuge.
2:42:22 Speaker 04 Wow.
2:42:23 Speaker 05 That's brutal. That would've been amazing.
2:42:24 Speaker 04 Joe just, she closed the laptop and everything.
2:42:28 Speaker 05 That would've been a sick, the hammer pick, too.
2:42:30 Sean Fennessey? It was originally in my mind, I was like, this is the ultimate pick in franchise film, but.
2:42:34 Speaker 05 I was, yeah.
2:42:35 Speaker 03 You can still pick 127 hours.
2:42:37 Speaker 05 Oh, thank you.
2:42:40 Speaker 03 Oh.
2:42:40 Speaker 05 Uh.
2:42:41 Speaker 03 That hasn't been chosen, I wonder why.
2:42:44 Sean Fennessey? What do you think it is?
2:42:45 Speaker 03 I don't know.
2:42:45 Sean Fennessey? Just too tough a subject matter?
2:42:47 Speaker 03 Probably so. Tough watch.
2:42:50 Sean Fennessey? You said best performance of the year, Franco, that year, right?
2:42:53 Speaker 03 No, this was Army Life.
2:42:54 Speaker 05 2011.
2:42:57 Speaker 05 Um, I will pick Never Let Me Go, then.
2:43:01 Sean Fennessey? That lasted a long time.
2:43:03 Speaker 05 Not a fan of that.
2:43:03 Speaker 03 It doesn't have a good category in this year.
2:43:04 Sean Fennessey? Not a fan.
2:43:05 Speaker 05 It's one of my 10 favorite books ever, so the movie just, yeah.
2:43:09 Sean Fennessey? It's definitely not.
2:43:09 Speaker 05 It's a loose adaptation, like a quite loose adaptation, but it's incredible. Um, like, an incredible crop of young actors. Yeah, great performances. Yeah. And great sweaters. And like, a really good visual style, I think, as well. But in terms of like, adaptation, it is very loose.
2:43:26 Amanda Dobbins? Well, it was selected second overall. The last time this draft was done, you got it at 49.
2:43:30 Speaker 05 Yeah. There you go.
2:43:31 Speaker 03 It's a win. It's a lot of value.
2:43:32 Amanda Dobbins? Dude, no one took Fish Tank. What happened?
2:43:35 Speaker 05 I just almost picked Fish Tank.
2:43:37 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, you guys talked about Fish Tank on the last draft, so you were like, wow, none of us picked Fish Tank.
2:43:42 Sean Fennessey? It was number two on my original list.
2:43:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:43:44 Speaker 05 I had it 11th on my overall list. Oh, man, that's a bummer that that didn't get picked.
2:43:48 Amanda Dobbins? And I didn't draft it? I feel like I've drafted it at some point.
2:43:51 Speaker 05 Don't worry, I talked about Fast Under fucking Lishi Vikander, and I think that's like, basically the same thing.
2:43:55 Amanda Dobbins? You're not wrong. That's an absolutely chilling scene.
2:43:59 Speaker 05 No one took Tiny Furniture?
2:44:00 Sean Fennessey? Any thoughts on Fish Tank?
2:44:01 Speaker 03 I love it.
2:44:02 Sean Fennessey? Feel like your life at all, or?
2:44:06 Sean Fennessey? You can say no.
2:44:07 Speaker 03 Is this the kind of dirty tricks I can expect out on the campaign trail?
2:44:10 Amanda Dobbins? Wow.
2:44:12 Sean Fennessey? How'd it go?
2:44:13 Amanda Dobbins? Fishing just absolutely just went over. I didn't know. Great moment. It was on the board. It's so good.
2:44:16 Speaker 03 If you and I ran against each other, I think we would bring decorum back to politics.
2:44:19 Sean Fennessey? I think you're right.
2:44:20 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:44:21 Sean Fennessey? So Fish Tank was gonna be my number one honorable mention.
2:44:24 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:44:25 Speaker 03 Bummer that that didn't get picked. 2009 movie, but it's definitely.
2:44:28 Sean Fennessey? My other one is Four Lions, which is an amazing British comedy starring a young Riz Ahmed. Um, this is the year of Tiny Furniture?
2:44:36 Speaker 05 That's right.
2:44:37 Sean Fennessey? And the Dunham's indie breakthrough film, right before.
2:44:40 Speaker 05 South by Winner.
2:44:40 Sean Fennessey? Girls comes, um, which is a good movie. Hot Tub Time Machine?
2:44:45 Speaker 05 Classic.
2:44:46 Speaker 03 Yep.
2:44:46 Sean Fennessey? Fans? Not fans?
2:44:48 Amanda Dobbins? It's fine.
2:44:48 Speaker 05 No one took the King's Speech or The Fighter. It's kinda weird.
2:44:51 Speaker 06 The Fighter, I'm surprised.
2:44:52 Speaker 04 That one probably could've gone somewhere.
2:44:54 Speaker 05 It's a little weird.
2:44:54 Amanda Dobbins? The Fighter is one of my favorite Amy Adamses.
2:44:57 Speaker 05 Yeah.
2:44:57 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, but I don't really care about that much.
2:45:00 Speaker 06 Bale going crazy in that bitch.
2:45:01 Amanda Dobbins? I almost did King's Speech and Blockbuster, but then I just, I don't know.
2:45:05 Speaker 06 Why is that movie so roundly hated now?
2:45:08 Amanda Dobbins? Because it took the Best Picture Oscar away from Social Network. And also because it's so clearly like a Harvey Weinstein engineered Best Picture win at the height of...
2:45:21 Speaker 06 Everybody talks a bunch of shit on it. I remember it was kind of a thing when it came out. People were talking about the movie.
2:45:26 Speaker 05 They're not.
2:45:26 Speaker 04 It was very popular.
2:45:27 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, they're not bad in it.
2:45:28 Speaker 06 It was a thing. It was like a big deal. And like now, it's like one of those ones you look back on it and everybody has something bad to say.
2:45:34 Speaker 05 Not me.
2:45:34 Speaker 03 Couple other... Oh, go ahead.
2:45:37 Sean Fennessey? Just gonna say, I have no problem saying that I hold the Social Network's loss against it. When I saw it on theaters, like, this is not bad.
2:45:44 Speaker 05 That's what it is.
2:45:44 Sean Fennessey? It's solid, but I'm just, I'm just being a brat.
2:45:46 Speaker 03 It's kinda like how you feel about Green Book now, right?
2:45:49 Sean Fennessey? No, I liked Green Book when it came out, honestly. I said it at the time. I don't think it's a worthy Best Picture winner. I think it's a bad Best Picture winner.
2:45:55 Speaker 06 Who, who, who won the Green Book? Like, what was, what should've won the Green Book?
2:45:58 Amanda Dobbins? Roma.
2:45:59 Speaker 06 Roma.
2:46:00 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah.
2:46:00 Speaker 06 Green Book is an abomination.
2:46:03 Speaker 03 We did not select the late period Clint Eastwood classic Hereafter.
2:46:07 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
2:46:08 Speaker 05 Okay.
2:46:09 Speaker 03 We did not select...
2:46:10 Sean Fennessey? Not a great film.
2:46:11 Speaker 03 The Valerie Plame film Fair Game.
2:46:16 Speaker 03 Damn Valerie.
2:46:19 Sean Fennessey? Where'd you find these state secrets?
2:46:22 Speaker 05 Almost spit the water directly into the mic.
2:46:25 Speaker 06 Just listen to two of them and they say, damn.
2:46:27 Speaker 05 Valerie Plame hadn't thought about that.
2:46:28 Speaker 03 Yeah. Devil?
2:46:30 Speaker 05 Yep.
2:46:31 Speaker 03 Good movie.
2:46:31 Speaker 06 Oh, shit.
2:46:32 Speaker 03 Set in an elevator.
2:46:33 Speaker 06 I love that one, man.
2:46:34 Sean Fennessey? It was very fun. People hated it, though.
2:46:36 Speaker 05 Do you remember?
2:46:36 Speaker 06 Well, like, that was...
2:46:37 Speaker 05 Do you remember the theater when the Devil trailer came out? And you're watching the Devil trailer and everyone's like, oh, this looks great, blah, blah. But M Night's, like, stock was so low. And then it was like, at the end, it was like, direct by M Night Shy...
2:46:48 Sean Fennessey? It was from the mine.
2:46:49 Speaker 05 From the mine, and the entire theater.
2:46:51 Speaker 06 Laughed. Yeah. He could like, yeah.
2:46:54 Speaker 03 But then he came back for his corners with the visit and now he's got it together.
2:46:58 Speaker 06 Like he, like he, he goes.
2:47:00 Speaker 07 Yeah, that beach that you're old.
2:47:01 Sean Fennessey? It's called Old.
2:47:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:47:02 Speaker 06 I like that. He goes on little runs and then it falls off and it's bad and then it comes back.
2:47:07 Sean Fennessey? His next film is a collaboration with Nicholas Sparks. It's called Remain.
2:47:12 Speaker 07 Just.
2:47:13 Sean Fennessey? Romantic thriller.
2:47:14 Speaker 07 Spoiler alert, probably someone's a ghost.
2:47:17 Speaker 03 Predators?
2:47:17 Speaker 04 I love Predators.
2:47:19 Sean Fennessey? Almost went Predators in franchise.
2:47:20 Speaker 07 Shocked, none of you guys.
2:47:21 Speaker 04 Awesome. Predators is the, if you know, you know.
2:47:24 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I'm pro Predator.
2:47:25 Speaker 03 Trash humpers?
2:47:26 Speaker 04 I'm not trash humpers.
2:47:27 Speaker 06 So Predators, real quick, I thought that Adrian Brody, after Predators, was gonna go on a little action.
2:47:33 Speaker 07 That's the one he got an eight pack for.
2:47:35 Speaker 06 He got, he went and he was so believable.
2:47:38 Speaker 03 He was diesel.
2:47:38 Speaker 06 And so fucking awesome. I was like, you know what? He's gonna go mainstream for a little while, cash some checks as an action guy.
2:47:44 Sean Fennessey? The Nick Cage Face Off move.
2:47:46 Speaker 06 Kind of, and he was just like, fuck it, I'm not into it.
2:47:48 Speaker 04 Can I put a theory as to why that didn't work for him?
2:47:50 Speaker 06 Go for it.
2:47:50 Speaker 04 Did you see Splice from this year?
2:47:52 Speaker 06 Yes.
2:47:52 Speaker 04 I think that's the reason why.
2:47:53 Speaker 06 Yeah.
2:47:54 Speaker 04 When he has sex with his surrogate kangaroo daughter?
2:47:57 Sean Fennessey? Kind of enjoyed that movie.
2:47:58 Speaker 07 I also like Splice.
2:48:00 Sean Fennessey? Vincenzo Natale, the cinema Vincenzo Natale?
2:48:03 Speaker 07 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:48:03 Speaker 04 I'm not a prude, but I had to clutch my pearls with that one. That was weird.
2:48:07 Sean Fennessey? It's a complicated.
2:48:07 Speaker 07 Vincenzo Natale is the one who directed that episode of Hannibal where he like comes out of a horse.
2:48:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, see, I'm cool with that.
2:48:12 Speaker 07 Yeah.
2:48:12 Speaker 06 But he's always so frail when he is critically acclaimed and he was so.
2:48:17 Speaker 04 He was jacked.
2:48:17 Speaker 06 Physically and even energetically dominant in that movie. I thought he, he had a lane there. He was like, fuck it.
2:48:23 Speaker 03 What did I draft last time?
2:48:25 Speaker 07 Uh, no one took Guy and Madeline this time either. Throw that one out there.
2:48:28 Sean Fennessey? Oh, yeah.
2:48:28 Speaker 07 Uh, yeah. Let's see, Chris, last time you took Never Let Me Go in the first round as your drama. You took Jackass 3D in the second round as your comedy or horror pick? You took Shutter Island in the third round as your blockbuster. You took A Prophet in the fourth round as your animated or foreign language. You took Monsters as your wild card? And you took Robin Hood as your sequel.
2:48:51 Speaker 03 I was thinking about doing Robin Hood again.
2:48:53 Sean Fennessey? Terrible movie.
2:48:54 Speaker 06 Which Robin Hood?
2:48:55 Sean Fennessey? Terrible.
2:48:55 Speaker 03 The one with Oscar Isaac and Russell Crowe and Tate Blanchett.
2:48:58 Speaker 06 Oh, shit.
2:48:59 Sean Fennessey? Essential movie in the lore of our friendship, though.
2:49:01 Speaker 03 Yes.
2:49:01 Sean Fennessey? We recorded a test podcast without a podcast network or proper equipment about the film Robin Hood.
2:49:06 Speaker 07 That's so cute.
2:49:07 Sean Fennessey? In my basement, yeah.
2:49:09 Speaker 07 Do you have the tapes?
2:49:10 Sean Fennessey? Uh, the Library of Congress has it.
2:49:14 Sean Fennessey? Fair hold on to it for us.
2:49:15 Speaker 03 We're in Bernstein.
2:49:18 Speaker 03 Okay.
2:49:19 Speaker 07 Should we recap our teams?
2:49:21 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, no more honorable mentions?
2:49:23 Amanda Dobbins? I got a couple. Country Strong, starring Tim McGraw and Gwyneth Paltrow.
2:49:27 Speaker 05 I was genuinely wondering if you might draft Country Strong.
2:49:29 Amanda Dobbins? I had it on a while. Listen, crazy things happen and it's always good to... And Leighton Meester and Garrett Hedlund, speaking of.
2:49:36 Speaker 05 What if you had done Country Strong and Remember Me? How would you feel about that?
2:49:39 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, I mean, that is kind of the strategy I brought last... If I were in your drafting spot, like, that's maybe what would have happened. And then Easy A and just fully gone for it. And then Ghost Rider?
2:49:53 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:49:54 Amanda Dobbins? Roman Polanski film, Ewan McGregor, Pierce Brosnan.
2:49:58 Sean Fennessey? Great Pierce Brosnan performance.
2:49:58 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. It's pretty good. I rewatched part of it last night and I was like, well, you know, it's a little rickety, but also very fun.
2:50:06 Sean Fennessey? There's a Tom Cruise movie this year.
2:50:08 Speaker 03 Night and Day.
2:50:09 Sean Fennessey? Night and Day.
2:50:10 Amanda Dobbins? I didn't consider that one.
2:50:11 Sean Fennessey? Undrafted.
2:50:11 Speaker 03 I saw maybe like 10 minutes of it. I never saw it.
2:50:14 Sean Fennessey? It's not great. Pretty... Some really good foreign language films this year. Carlos, the Olivia Seas films. Valhalla Rising from Nick Winding Refn. Secret Sunshine is this year, White Material.
2:50:28 Speaker 03 Uncle Boon Me.
2:50:29 Sean Fennessey? Uncle Boon Me. What else? What other Oscar nominees?
2:50:40 Sean Fennessey? Machete?
2:50:44 Sean Fennessey? Paranormal Activity 2? Do you like that, huh?
2:50:51 Speaker 03 I know that I've been potting since 9:45 a.m. It's 4 p.m. now and that's the funniest thing I've heard all day. And if I could have like a full soundboard, I would use it all the time.
2:51:05 Speaker 03 Like you would say something really special about Entangled and I would just go flex.
2:51:14 Speaker 05 Damn, son, where'd you get that hair?
2:51:21 Sean Fennessey? Flex Moms. That's something Jack can explore. Drop in.
2:51:27 Speaker 07 Put your hand.
2:51:29 Sean Fennessey? I did say, "Damn, son, where'd you find that?" When I watched Made a Cypher and Chloe. I don't know if you guys.
2:51:32 Speaker 06 Ah, fucking right, of course.
2:51:35 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, that's a performance.
2:51:36 Speaker 06 That's a good one. That's one of the ones.
2:51:39 Sean Fennessey? Um, okay, let's recap our teams. So, Mal, you had first picks. Why don't you go first?
2:51:45 Speaker 07 Okay, so in order of the rounds. Uh, round one, Social Network was my franchise film. Round two, Blue Valentine, my original. Round three, Kick Ass, my comedy. Round four, How to Train Your Dragon, my blockbuster. Round five, Winter's Bone, my Oscar nom. Round six, A Profit, foreign language or animated. And round seven, The Kids Are Alright, a wild card. Feel pretty good about that.
2:52:04 Sean Fennessey? I don't really remember.
2:52:05 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah, I was gonna say, I don't remember my rounds.
2:52:06 Sean Fennessey? Uh, but I'll try to do it. Uh, round one in original, I took Inception. Round two in comedy, I took the other guys, I think.
2:52:13 Speaker 07 Yep.
2:52:13 Sean Fennessey? Round three in Oscar nominee, I took Animal Kingdom. Round four in foreign language, I took Mother.
2:52:22 Speaker 07 Blockbuster Tangled. We don't have to do it in that order.
2:52:24 Sean Fennessey? Tangled. Uh, in franchise film, I took Insidious. And in wildcard, I took Daddy Longlegs. Okay, Amanda.
2:52:33 Amanda Dobbins? I'm gonna try. In Oscar nominee, I took The Town. In comedy, Morning Glory. In original, Greenberg. In foreign language, animated, Dog Tooth. In blockbuster, Despicable Me. In franchise, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part One. And in wildcard, Please Give.
2:52:49 Speaker 04 Rob, I took Toy Story 3 in blockbuster. Somewhere in original, although I kinda wish it was comedy still. Uh, MacGruber in comedy. I Am Love in foreigner animated. Black Swan in Oscar. Another year in actual comedy. And Ip Man in wildcard.
2:53:06 Speaker 06 We didn't talk about Ip Man. Ip Man is that shit, bruh.
2:53:09 Speaker 04 Incredible.
2:53:10 Speaker 06 Jack, what'd I draft? I can't remember what I drafted.
2:53:12 Speaker 04 In comedy, Van selected Scott Pilgrim versus the world. In franchise film, he took Iron Man 2. In original, he took The Book of Eli. In blockbuster, he took Tron Legacy. Oscar nominee, Exit Through the Gift Shop. Wildcard, Due Date. And foreign slash animated, Megamind.
2:53:28 Amanda Dobbins? One of the all-time draft performances.
2:53:32 Amanda Dobbins? Incredible.
2:53:35 Speaker 03 Also, we just stopped making Jack your PA.
2:53:38 Speaker 06 I don't remember. I don't. You guys, I don't ever do that.
2:53:41 Speaker 04 He literally texted me on the clock, spammed. He's like, Jack, Jack, what categories do I have left?
2:53:47 Speaker 05 I saw him at one point, like, pointing at you and be like...
2:53:49 Speaker 06 I'm here for the vibes with my people, man.
2:53:51 Sean Fennessey? Chris, you're up.
2:53:52 Speaker 03 I don't have this in order. I'm just gonna do it, because this way I can say that in franchise, I took Twilight Saga Eclipse. In original, not based on any previous ever existing story that anyone's ever told each other, Brooklyn's finest. In comedy, Jackass 3D, again, took that one. Ensign D in foreign or animated. Oscar nominee was Unstoppable for Best Sound Editing. Blockbuster was Shutter Island. And Wildcard was Breck Eisner's The Crazies.
2:54:23 Sean Fennessey? Breck's son, Michael. Uh, Joanna. Try to do this with no bitterness, Joanna. Come on.
2:54:29 Speaker 05 No, I'm full of sweetness and honey. Uh, in franchise film, I took The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. In original, not based on any pre-existing source material, I took Salt. In comedy, I took Easy A. In foreign language slash animated, I took Beautiful. An Oscar nominee, I took Inside Job. In Blockbuster, I took True Grit. And in Wildcard, I took Never Let Me Go.
2:54:52 Speaker 04 Just clarifying one thing, Rob said MacGruber in comedy, he took it in franchise film.
2:54:56 Speaker 03 You're absolutely right. Thank you.
2:54:59 Sean Fennessey? That's it. How did this start out?
2:55:01 Speaker 05 Yeah, I think this went really well. Had a blast.
2:55:03 Sean Fennessey? Pretty normal. Think that we'll get some good feedback on this one?
2:55:06 Speaker 05 Probably, honestly. Yeah, and I'll consume all of it. I like the mania. Yeah.
2:55:11 Sean Fennessey? I love this team. I'm proud of this team.
2:55:13 Speaker 05 The best.
2:55:13 Sean Fennessey? I feel this is a very special...
2:55:15 Speaker 03 I'm not fucking around, crew.
2:55:16 Speaker 05 I think next year, you should pick a worst year for films and have us pick more, like, swear it's where it's like sixty deep.
2:55:23 Speaker 03 It's like seventy, seventy movies, but for like, the worst year, for like, the pure COVID year.
2:55:28 Sean Fennessey? I mean, this is where I want us to go with this project, you know? It's like, how, how hard can we scrape the bottom of that barrel?
2:55:36 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
2:55:36 Sean Fennessey? Um, well, thank you to Van, thank you to Mal, thank you to CR, thank you to Joe, thank you to Rob, thank you to Jack Sanders, thanks to Lucas Cavanagh. Thanks to everyone here at Spotify.
2:55:47 Speaker 03 She did great work today.
2:55:48 Sean Fennessey? Amanda, do you feel you deserve a thank you at the end of every episode? Should we, should we bake that in? What do you, when will I get a thanks? Will that ever happen?
2:55:57 Speaker 05 Indeed.
2:55:57 Sean Fennessey? This fucking show?
2:56:00 Speaker 05 Chris, like, don't talk to...
2:56:01 Amanda Dobbins? To a woman like that. Chris, can you just help me play with my Google right now?
2:56:07 Sean Fennessey? You know, so.
2:56:10 Sean Fennessey? Next episode, um, we're talking about Supergirl and Jackass Best and Last and The Invite. Those are the three films. How many people have seen The Invite? Has anybody?
2:56:21 Amanda Dobbins? I almost made an invite reference on this podcast, but.
2:56:24 Sean Fennessey? A little early.
2:56:25 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I, you know, I never know where in time we are, but I held it back.
2:56:29 Sean Fennessey? Wow.
2:56:30 Amanda Dobbins? I'm just living in the now.
2:56:31 Sean Fennessey? Joe Biden.
2:56:32 Speaker 05 We just do the Supergirl podcast from the bar.
2:56:35 Sean Fennessey? From MacGuffins?
2:56:36 Speaker 05 Yeah, from MacGuffin.
2:56:37 Sean Fennessey? Do we have a MacGuffins date tomorrow?
2:56:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, we tried, but that was like three hours ago.
2:56:41 Speaker 05 Is it the screening at like 7:30?
2:56:42 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:56:43 Speaker 05 Yeah. And then do like a 10pm from the bar podcast with great audio that Jack will love.
2:56:50 Sean Fennessey? From our iPhones?
2:56:51 Speaker 05 Yeah.
2:56:51 Sean Fennessey? Or should we just go on IG Live?
2:56:53 Speaker 05 Oh, IG Live.
2:56:54 Sean Fennessey? A 10 person IG Live.
2:56:55 Amanda Dobbins? How late does MacGuffin stay open?
2:56:58 Sean Fennessey? Never closes.
2:56:58 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:57:01 Speaker 06 Wait a minute, is everybody, you're at the screening tomorrow too?
2:57:03 Speaker 03 Sadly not. I didn't get that invite, you know? I'm not ring reversing like y'all. I'm not going to that.
2:57:12 Sean Fennessey? Cause the film has girl in the title.
2:57:13 Speaker 05 Yeah, cause.
2:57:14 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:57:15 Speaker 03 I have to get back to my.
2:57:19 Amanda Dobbins? What TV watching right now?
2:57:21 Speaker 03 Uh, it's Star City and House of the Dragon.
2:57:23 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:57:23 Speaker 06 Uh, the Star City recommendation couldn't have been better.
2:57:27 Speaker 03 Still got it.
2:57:27 Sean Fennessey? Hot theory. Damn.
2:57:29 Speaker 06 I mean, what I've seen, I've enjoyed. I mean, I read some stuff, but I've only watched, from what I've seen, I've enjoyed. I thought it was great. Tough, tough shit, tough to watch.
2:57:40 Sean Fennessey? Violent, violent.
2:57:41 Speaker 06 Violent.
2:57:41 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:57:42 Speaker 06 Sad. I had to, I had to hit Joe for like fucking moral support. Like that was too much.
2:57:48 Sean Fennessey? How would you do on The Back of a Dragon?
2:57:50 Speaker 06 Not well. Don't like heights, don't like scaly animals and shit like that.
2:57:54 Speaker 05 Did I support you morally?
2:57:55 Speaker 06 You did.
2:57:56 Speaker 05 Well.
2:57:57 Speaker 06 You did.
2:57:57 Speaker 05 I'm pretty nice.
2:57:57 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, I thought we were talking about Star City until dragons came up.
2:58:01 Speaker 06 Star City good?
2:58:02 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. Okay. Thanks, everybody, for participating. Sean, thank you for putting this together. Yeah, thanks, Sean.
2:58:07 Speaker 03 Thank you, Sean. Thanks for all the work you do. I really appreciate it.
2:58:10 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really good. Thanks, Sean. Okay, fuck you. Bye.
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