The Snack: Taylor and Travis Engagement, Ashley's Bach, and Cracker Barrel Uproar

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Taylor and Travis's engagement and all the reactions Selena Gomez's bachelorette Ashley's bachelorette Justin Bieber impersonator and thirst traps Gwyneth Paltrow biography and Ben Affleck tea Cracker Barrel rebrand and backlash Headlines: Gap's commercial in response to American Eagle, Burning Man disaster, Love is Blind UK S2 Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Julie Care: Find Julie at CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, Target, Amazon and GoPuff in all 50 states. No age restrictions and no ID required. Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at https://quince.com/GGE. The Roses: In theaters everywhere August 29. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome to The Snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hello. Big day for The Snack.

• 0:16Rayna Greenberg?

  The People's Princess.

• 0:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, we will get into it, but I got adrenaline flowing through my veins.

• 0:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like we are so lucky when something happens right before we record.

• 0:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, let's just thank our partners and we will get into it.

• 0:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, thanks to Julie Care. Girls, girls, everywhere can find Julie at CBS, Walgreens, Walmart, Target, Amazon, and GoPuff across all 50 states. No age restrictions and no ID required ever. And Quince, get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at quince.com/gge.

• 0:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to The Roses. It is in theaters everywhere tomorrow, August 29. Okay, so we just have a couple announcements. We are doing this festival called Lady World. It's put on by the Lady Gang Podcasting Women, and it is in Miramar Beach, Florida. We are so excited about it. There are amazing performers, musical artists, people like Hannah Berner, Chicks in the Office, O-Town, LFO. It's just gonna be incredible. It's gonna be on the beach. It's gonna be just a three-day extravaganza of like podcasting music and activities and on the beach and all these things. The weekend itself is September 26 through the 28th. Our show is gonna be Friday night, September 26. And then what we're gonna do on Saturday

• 1:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  is a Vibes class. So if you guys don't know, we have a sexual wellness company. We sell sex toys and accoutrements. Everything's very high-end and premium called Vibes Only, and we're gonna do a class in Lady World. So we're gonna just talk about sex and finding your pleasure and all these things on the beach. And you'll have your vibrators that you're gonna purchase to go along with the class. And it's just what we're gonna do as a little addition to our Lady World appearance. And if you guys are going to Lady World, it's super easy to book this class. Once you buy your Lady World tickets, you'll get an email to download their app. And then inside the app is the entire weekend schedule. So you'll find this class. It's gonna be Saturday from 4 to 5:30, little happy hour vibes, and you'll add it to your cart and check out. And basically what we did is you

• 2:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  can choose one of two of our top-selling vibrators, the Poppy Palm Vibe or the Richard Cock Ring, and you'll get them. At the festival, so you'll have them during the class and we'll talk about them and then like everything else we do. It'll be really fun and spicy and that's what we're gonna do. So, and you can also upgrade your ticket and do a meet and greet with us. Those are gonna be limited tickets for that.

• 2:39Rayna Greenberg?

  So, yeah, I mean, obviously, we love talking about this stuff. Pleasure, either solo or with a partner. I feel like so many people have so much to say. We love talking about it and obviously, we love our toys, but like Ashley said, it will just be more inclusive of just like sexual wellness, intimacy, whether it's solo or partnered. And the weekend's just gonna be really great. There's tons of performers, tons of our friends are gonna be there performing as well, so we can't wait to see you guys there.

• 3:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it has been a minute since Rayna Greenberg has been on stage in this form, so watch out, world.

• 3:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I've been acting crazy.

• 3:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Lots to share at the show and in the vibes class, so that's how you're gonna get that. And while we're here, just take a minute to plug the rest of my tour. It is almost over. I can't believe this. I have like two California dates left, then I have the big three. I have Philly, New York, and Boston. And so, I have Philly, just the few days before we leave for Lady World, September 24th and 25th. I have a few tickets left for the September 24th show. I added a second show. And then New York, I'm gonna film my special on October 11th, Saturday. Make the trip. I am so, so excited. Raina will be there, all of our friends, family. I was just talking to my family about it this past weekend and it is like the culmination of everything I've worked so hard for and there are still some tickets left for that. They are going really quick. So, that's gonna be New York, October 11th, and then ending

• 3:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  the tour at the Wilbur on October 12th, and Boston, which just means so much to me. This is the theater where I met my fiancee and this is the Sex Before Marriage Tour, ending it all just a few weeks before I get married. And I just, I can't believe it. It's really coming to an end. And there's probably a few tickets left for San Diego and San Francisco, but mainly Philly, New York, and Boston. Grab those before they're gone. AshHess.com. It's just been the best thing ever and I've loved seeing you guys on the road and I'll see you in these remaining tour stops. Okay, let's get into it.

• 4:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Speaking of sex before marriage,

• 4:34Rayna Greenberg?

  we have a fiance report hot off the presses. How do we even do this justice? I don't even know what to say. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are engaged.

• 4:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, I'm never gonna let you limit down that I broke that news to you. That was such a rush. I'll never find that high again. Like, I saw this, and when I saw the post, it had been up for eight minutes. And I was like, what am I? This can't be real. Like, I'm not looking at, there's no way I'm looking at this. There's no way I'm looking at a collabed post from the most famous couple in the world. And I'm seeing it before anyone has told me about, like, I was like, I had to stare at it before I texted you. I was like, I don't want to get her excited for nothing. I was like, this can't, this is like breaking my brain right now.

• 5:23Rayna Greenberg?

  So I immediately go to Instagram, I reload it, and there's only three posts. It's like Page Six had just posted, and they had just collabed it. Like, you broke it before the internet. I didn't even, okay, I didn't even know. And then they just launched this like a regular couple. They collabed it. There's a photo of the ring. There's a photo of him proposed. Like, they're just like normal people.

• 5:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then she shared the post to her story with an emoji. Like, the normalcy is just jaw dropping.

• 5:51Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy. And like, the parasocial relationship we have with these people, like, everybody feels like I couldn't be happier if this was like me or my best friend. Like, it's so exciting.

• 6:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's my entire feed. Like, this would be the time for another country to attack us. We are distracted. This is, everybody in the world is focused on this. Like, every different type of influencer, you know, from, of course, all the girlies to like The Shade Room, to Jason Tardik, to KFC, Barstool.

• 6:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Barstool.

• 6:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just everybody, and they came with it quick. People put out the content quick. People made reels so quick.

• 6:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I have never seen people take so much content and make so much reel so quickly. I mean, it has united the nation. Every single person that I follow immediately went and made a reel about it. I was like, how did people pump out content this quick? People that were on planes were pumping out content.

• 6:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  People were like, land the plane. No, you have to land the plane. Like, how many planes were got grounded today after this? Like, can you imagine if the pilot came on? It was, Raina, truly though, I bet. On somebody's flight today, a pilot came on and announced it. You know it happened. You know a Swifty was flying a plane. I want to know the airline. If you were on a plane today and the pilot came on, it was like, we have an announcement, everybody. Or a flight attendant.

• 7:15Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, those American Airlines flight attendants.

• 7:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  American Airlines out of Philly. You know, they came on.

• 7:20Rayna Greenberg?

  All over that shit.

• 7:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I'm just, like, I was just, like, at home alone. And, like, imagine being out in the world. Like, I remember the moment I was walking my dog around New York City when Joe Biden was announced as winning the presidency. Like, we were hugging in the street. Like, do you think that happened in, like, some public places?

• 7:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, I'm actually really sad I wasn't on the street.

• 7:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Me too.

• 7:41Rayna Greenberg?

  The opportunity to not cry in the streets with my fellow New Yorker is like it's COVID again.

• 7:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, like, I'm literally thinking about Biden Day, and people were, like, clanging pots and pans outside of their windows. Like, did this happen today? Like, close to where she lives. Like, are people gathering? Like, are we all going down to Washington Square Park today in New York City, like, to celebrate?

• 8:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Storm the fountain, yes.

• 8:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not Storm the Fountain. Storm the Arch.

• 8:07Rayna Greenberg?

  And people are like, what do you say? Like, people are, like, rushing to have hot takes and all these people. I saw a bunch of stuff about prenups. What does this prenup look like? And I'm like, can we just pump the brakes? I, we are a nation celebrating. We just, I don't need to, like, go to the legal stuff and the nitty gritty of this. Can't you just let us have a day?

• 8:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, yeah, I, listen, I love that if it's your whole brand, like, Tori Donlap, she's like, prenup, first thing that comes to mind.

• 8:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm trying to enjoy this engagement, you know, like, this is my engagement.

• 8:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  The whole word, prenup, at this moment. It's way more intense than I ever would have thought. So, I'm just like, I don't want to see the prenup content. Let me enjoy this in the flower garden and that giant fucking baller ring. I love the look. We were just talking about this, like, because there's this article that came out, what, in the cut, about all these influencers that got engaged over the summer or this year, and they all have the same pear-shaped diamond. And so, we were just talking about engagement rings and all that kind of stuff. And, like, you were saying that this kind of big or thicker band, like, this, this look that I feel like her ring embodies, bigger than anyone else would ever have. But, like, it fits that. Kind of bolder, sort of old fashioned. I don't know how to describe it. It's just, I haven't had enough

• 9:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  time to think and find the words, but I really like, I love the ring.

• 9:24Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a flatter style. I don't know what it's called, but it's sunk into the band a little bit more. I think it's beautiful. It's, for her, it's understated.

• 9:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  It looks like antique, yeah. It understated. It's her whole finger and she has big hands, I'm gonna guess, as someone who is the same height, so, you know.

• 9:39Rayna Greenberg?

  For her, it's understated.

• 9:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  She got a Super Bowl ring, is what she got. They modeled it after Travis's last Super Bowl ring. Raina, the brands are killing me. Have you looked at any brands? So, Applebee's weighed in. Applebee's said like, their ring versus our ring, and it's onion rings.

• 9:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Onion rings.

• 9:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Buffalo Wild Wings weighed in. New Heights posted. I loved their post. It's basically the engagement photo in the garden and then the picture of Jason Kelsey, like, from the game. He's just like, looks like a party animal, like, coming off to the side, like, he is all of us right now. It's just, I love the just sheer joy about it. Everyone's followed this couple's journey and she's been doing all these countdowns, like, was one of the countdowns for this? Like, I haven't been keeping up with the countdowns, but like, there's been so many countdowns on her website. Like, was one of them for like, countdown to my engagement post?

• 10:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I'm dying to know the behind the scenes. Like, if they don't do another podcast together and tell us what happened, like, I need to know, like, did she know it was coming? Did she get a manicure? Like, what happened that day? How many days ago? Like, when did it happen? What was it like, like, talking about the caption was gonna be? Like, who came up with the, like, English teacher and, like, gym teacher thing? It's like, so cute. It feels sort of like, like, she's such a wordsmith, but it feels like a dude kind of wrote that, but I'm not sure, like, who wrote it?

• 10:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, set to her music, set to So High School, I'm dying. Okay, wait, I want to tell you my favorite brand. I got a push notification from Seamless. How many people does that go out to? 20 million? A push notification from Seamless, did you get this? "It's a love story with an engagement ring", is the subject line underneath, "and we say yes to take out. Order your favorites today." Seamless was like, fucking, it's go time. Like, they gathered, they were like, we're about to send this push notification out to so many millions of people. Like, when I saw that come through, it's a love story. I was like, you've gotta be kidding me.

• 11:24Rayna Greenberg?

  It's brilliant. Who wasn't on their phone, who wasn't on their phone right that second? You are brilliant if you did not capitalize on this.

• 11:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, and maybe they do, and this is the first time I really noticed it, but you're so right. Like, anything that's happening that people are literally watching unfold on their phone, fucking send the takeout push notification. I'm ready. Let's celebrate.

• 11:45Rayna Greenberg?

  We relaunched a new vibrator this morning. Look, we just like restocked a bestseller that we had that we and I was like, I wish we would have waited.

• 11:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, you can't post today. I mean, I just, what a time to be engaged at the same time as Taylor Swift, I have to tell you. So, I like was thinking about this because I, it's the same week I got engaged. We talked about this as like engagement season, end of August. I got engaged on August 31st. And I was like, oh my God, what if Beyonce also got engaged this week? Like, what if it's like the three of us? And so I looked it up and I wanted to share with you what Beyonce got engaged in like '07 or something. She got engaged on Jay-Z's birthday.

• 12:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Ew.

• 12:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I don't know how to feel about it.

• 12:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I hate it. I hate it. A man proposed to you on his birthday?

• 12:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I hate your birthday more. I hate, I would hate a proposal on my birthday. What, what are we doing here? This is my birthday. Like, let's keep these separate. And then God forbid something goes south.

• 12:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I got proposed to on, I got proposed to on my birthday.

• 12:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, I knew this. I must have blocked it out. Rada.

• 12:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, I forgot about that. It was such a red flag.

• 13:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Is it? I can't decide. It didn't bother me at the time. I thought this was like celebratory and I didn't care.

• 13:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, you're the perfect example. If it doesn't bother you, but it's like you did break up and it didn't taint your birthday.

• 13:14Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, it should have, but I guess I didn't just, I cared a lot that we broke up. I just, I've never thought about it ever again.

• 13:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 13:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm with you though. I don't need to conflate holidays and milestones. Just like, everything should have its own.

• 13:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  My dad proposed on Christmas. No ring.

• 13:31Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 13:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which, I think he got, I, am I making this up? I think he did, obviously got one, but it's like, to propose on Christmas with no ring, it's like, that is also a holiday where you give a gift. So now you don't have a Christmas gift and you don't have an engagement ring.

• 13:45Rayna Greenberg?

  It's iconic.

• 13:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  She was like, I guess, sure.

• 13:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll fact check it before we release this, Justin.

• 13:52Rayna Greenberg?

  What did he get her, what did he get her for Christmas instead of the engagement ring?

• 13:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  It seems like he'd be like, I'm covered. He literally just got her the proposal as her whole gift.

• 14:02Rayna Greenberg?

  That's right. I would be like, thanks for this sweater.

• 14:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like in those boxes, then you say like, well, it didn't come in time.

• 14:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  He printed out a little certificate. He was like, engagement ring, coming soon, possibly. Okay, so our, our other fiance is Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift's bestie, who's been engaged for a minute. Hate that ring. No offense. Everybody's got their own taste. That one's not for me.

• 14:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think I've seen it. While you speak, I will look at it.

• 14:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just saw it today. I like, I wasn't so invested in that engagement, but they compared the two today. Because it's very funny. They're like getting, they're getting these best friends engaged at the same time. People are saying it's bride wars. It's a really funny energy. But that they, I saw the two rings side by side. I was like, oh, you know, not my style, but that's just me. But I guess she allegedly had a bachelorette party. That's what people are saying this past weekend.

• 14:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. Um, I, I didn't recognize the names of people who went. She had a bachelorette party. People are thinking she was on a boat with a bunch of friends. And then also at the same time, Benny Blanco was in Vegas with 25 people. So that definitely sounds like a bachelor party. And then it would make sense that this would be her bachelorette. But people noted, people noted that Taylor Swift was obviously not present.

• 15:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm assuming Taylor Swift got engaged over the weekend, right? Like, could not, shouldn't get engaged today, Tuesday. You know what I'm saying? Like she was like, I gotta fire up this post. Like they had to get the pictures edited. I'm sure she engaged her weekend, right?

• 15:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. I would hope so, but like, I'm also like, they're just like us. Maybe they got engaged last night. And then they, okay, you got engaged and then you posted the next day, right? I was sitting next to you.

• 15:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I posted the day.

• 15:42Rayna Greenberg?

  That day? I don't think you did.

• 15:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, no, you're right. No, sorry. Sorry. Yes. I got engaged, obviously, on a Saturday night and then made a bunch of calls the next day. I had to like go through the list of people. I didn't want them to see it on social media for the first time and then posted like a Sunday afternoon.

• 15:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think people know details. That's why I need a new, a new New Heights podcast.

• 15:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I think it just so far, we just have the date of announcement, how they announced a joint Instagram post. Like, this is the AI overview.

• 16:07Rayna Greenberg?

  They just like collabed it? I can't believe it.

• 16:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then she posted it to her story with a heart exclamation point. Jesus, so basic.

• 16:17Rayna Greenberg?

  She's such a nerd. I love it.

• 16:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love her. Like I was thinking about Taylor Swift being at Selena Gomez's Bachelorette and like, what do you think Taylor Swift's role in The Bachelorette would be? And what would she contribute? You know, everyone has a role. That's not people all day to show up, but you know, the best friends have like a role. They plan stuff. We'll talk about your role at mine, but I just was like, what would Taylor Swift do? What would she?

• 16:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't, I would assume she would like pay for the yacht and fill it with kittens and, um, write a really beautiful poem that she had like framed for Selena.

• 16:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  A framed poem, yeah.

• 16:54Rayna Greenberg?

  And like, I don't know. I don't know what people think that rich do. It's like your friend doesn't really need anything. So just if you like facilitated the boat and wrote something really sentimental and they're, they're big, they're kitten people, they're cat people, you know?

• 17:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're both cat people?

• 17:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know about a Selena, but I can feel it. I can feel there's, there's cat energy. Um, that's what I would think. What do you think?

• 17:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. Like I could see her organizing. I could see her taking control. Like she's on a tour. She has time. She has time to bake sourdough bread and talk about otters for 30 minutes on a podcast. Like she has time to plan a bachelorette party. So maybe she would plan it. She's sending out the email. She's like, here's the split wise and you know.

• 17:32Rayna Greenberg?

  You think she's sending the emails? She's a team of like 50 people that works for her.

• 17:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm just saying, I could see her taking the reins.

• 17:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I do too. I listen, she seems like a girl.

• 17:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Maybe she do the gift bags.

• 17:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Where is that bitch gonna have her bachelorette? There, how, is there like a place big enough to hold all the people she is friends with?

• 17:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 17:50Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy.

• 17:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's gonna be like out a ranch, you know, horses.

• 17:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Not in Newport, Rhode Island. Isn't that where her house is? Newport?

• 17:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's gonna rent out like a ranch, mark my words.

• 18:02Rayna Greenberg?

  She's gonna rent Montana. No one else can be there.

• 18:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, um, congrats to them. Let's talk about your bachelorette party.

• 18:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so I did two bachelorettes back to back. I did one in Atlanta with my college friends and a few of my Atlanta friends. I also had a show there, so I just made a work trip into a bachelorette. And, uh, my friend Bobby Corey was there. You know him, Second Impression Bobby. He was a part of it. He hosted a pool party at his house. So I did let one man be a part of the festivities. And it was great. I mean, it was a little more low key, but these women are ones that I've known since college. They know me on such a deep level and I'm the dead last one of them to obviously get married. Like I think of the seven of us, like they all, all got married in their twenties. Like the last one, maybe I was like 28 or 29. They all have kids. Uh, and so, I don't know.

• 18:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  They, I felt so loved and celebrated at both and we'll talk about it a little bit more, but that was like really special with them. And it was nice to be in Atlanta and I just, I had a wonderful time. And you just click, you know, I don't expect things, like especially not like bachelorette-y type things, you know, like, don't come at me with a sash. I'll, I'll burn it on the spot, you know, but like little banners and things like that. Like I didn't expect that. So it's just like, I would, I was upstairs in this Airbnb and I heard like the sound of what I felt like was something being blown up. And it was just like this big bride balloon. And then like the next day I heard the same sound and it's them blowing up this big pool float that was like a, a ring. It was just like cute. They brought like breakfast stuff and charcuterie boards and like just, they really were

• 19:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  so thoughtful. That was the theme of both of them, but I just, it means the world to me. Cause I don't expect it or know what's coming and I don't need it. And so those things just meant a lot. Um.

• 19:48Rayna Greenberg?

  You actively fought against it. You told me I wasn't allowed to put the word bachelorette on anything and I didn't appreciate it.

• 19:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I walked the back.

• 19:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I knew you were wrong.

• 19:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think the one thing I was anti and everyone seemed to know, I don't think I said it out loud, was a sash. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not doing it. Like I, I wore white sometimes, like whatever. I didn't care if anyone else wore white. I told you guys all to wear white for one night. Like, I just was like, I'm not wearing a sash. And that's fine. In my twenties, I would have been like, sash the fuck up. But I was like, we want to do penis stuff, whatever it is, but that's like where I draw the line.

• 20:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I have your penis with me.

• 20:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't get rid of this penis. Our friend Lee brought this penis game where you like buckle a penis to your head.

• 20:33Rayna Greenberg?

  It's everywhere with me. I can't get rid of it.

• 20:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, let me get mine, let me get mine. Mine was also within reach. What were these? What are these? Are these like whistles?

• 20:43Rayna Greenberg?

  No. Oh my God. I told you. So there you put a little band through it and you strap the penis to your head.

• 20:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, that's right. These were for the game?

• 20:49Rayna Greenberg?

  And you chuck little, um, things to it.

• 20:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, this was the like ring toss, penis ring toss?

• 20:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Penis ring toss. Um, but I can't get rid of it. It's everywhere. I, the whole, it's just been next to me for a day. I'm not doing this on purpose. I just like take it out of the bag and it's there.

• 21:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  My nephews grab these and they were like.

• 21:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley?

• 21:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, my nephew has this song, it's like the potty song. Like it's an original, like Matt helped him write it. And so he was like, Jay, do the potty song. And he had it as a mic and we're like, oh my God. And then it, some one, when he was putting it in my mom's face, like you sing, like Steph was like, he's like a musical artist that makes the audience sing for him. Like, and he, there's a picture of him like shoving this in my mom's face. We were laughing so hard.

• 21:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Meanwhile, your other nephews in the background sucking on it like a pacifier. And I was like, no.

• 21:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I did, I did this, um, bachelorette in Dewey Beach, uh, which is just my favorite place in the world. It's, I, obviously it's like where I'm from pretty much. And I used to like work there and live there in the summers. And that's where my brother lives in Rehoboth. And it's where I got engaged and I wanted to do this with like a lot of my friends that are from Delaware, people I've known forever and then like New York friends and like a couple others. Of course you were there. Everyone kind of knew each other for the most part. They'd been to Dewey at least once before with me. They know my family. And so that was kind of the connection there and just like really, you know, my best friends. And it was just so special. I mean, my mom and my aunt were around for most of it. And then my brother would pop in and out. He brought the boys over. My sister-in-law,

• 22:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Steph was there, like my cousin Lindsay. Like, it just was so special, like having those, the family around too. And we just shared this big beach house and you did so much for it and Cory did so much for it and Lee. And it was just like the best weekend ever. We did this beach picnic with the companies called Beach and Bash. They did an incredible job. It was like so gorgeous. Like, the sign said, "Welcome to Ashley's Trash Horse Beach Picnic," which, you know, I came up with. But they, they made the vision come to life. And we played this game after that, which we'll talk about. And we went out in a boat and we were like playing Flip Cup on this boat with like some songs from my wedding playlist and with High Noons. I was like, "This is a dream." We went to jam at the

• 23:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cork, which was like such a blast and went to like a nice dinner and had those moments of everybody just like being together and like having breakfast in the morning and getting up and like, it just, everyone getting to know each other better, or even some people just met for the first time, like before the wedding. I love that part of bachelorettes because it creates this anticipation to the wedding. And when you say goodbye, you're like, "See you at the wedding." And like, people become friends on The Bachelorettes, then they get to reunite at the wedding. And it's just, it's so, that's like one of my favorite parts about it.

• 23:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I loved it. I had the best weekend and it's really, I mean, obviously, like, to go to Vegas or something like that is really fun and wild and crazy, but to do it in a place that like we've just spent so much time and you've spent your whole life. It just was really special. And I was thinking, like, people don't really get like friends and family to be there. Like, the fact that like your mom was there, your brother could blow in and out and like hang out with us, your nephews, like, it just was like so fun and special and different than like a normal like bachelorette party that's just like funnel alcohol, which, listen, there's merit to that too. That's fun too. But like funnel alcohol and like Miami Vegas kind of thing.

• 24:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I loved having them there. That was like something that was like really important to me. And my mom would come no matter what, like, but it was just closer to home and then my aunt could come. And of course, like the rest of my, my family, my dad never made an appearance. It's fine. I saw him like before I had. I mean, he, he would not want to be there. But then we like went to the Starboard for brunch the last day and they like put like the sign up. Girls got to get married on the marquee. Our friend Dougie like did it and there was these little mini crushes at the table. I just felt so celebrated and loved in this place that means so much to me. And you know, Corey and I, I've mentioned before that we are technically going to have the same wedding date. Like she actually got like legally married before they went to Mexico on November 1st. And we both got engaged in Dewey. We both did bachelorettes in Dewey. Like that's my friend since I was four years old. That's like my best friend other than Rayna.

• 24:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she just did so much for it. And I don't know, I just felt like really emotional about the whole weekend. And people said such nice things about my fiance and you did so much and I'm so grateful. I'm just so appreciative and you know, I think that's, that goes without saying. And we played this game that I called the ex game. I was trying to run the tape on how I came up with this because as far as I know, it was like an original idea. I saw a reel of this girl and she was on her bachelorette, I'm assuming. I don't think it was the wedding day. I think it was her bachelorette and all her exes had sent messages. Her friends are like playing these messages from the guy she dated and she was like losing her mind. I was like, this is so hilarious to me. And like, that was never on the table.

• 25:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I was like, let's do a game where people present their worst exes. And we've seen people do these little like PowerPoint parties and stuff. Very definitely Gen Z has really taken to this. But I told everybody like submit your worst ex or two to Rayna with some photos and a couple of bullet points. And Rayna will like take it away. And you created the funniest presentation. You had a screen up that said the presentation will start shortly. You did these like opening screens. I mean, you just killed it. Like you really took it so seriously. And I, you can, you can let people know more, but everybody fucking crushed it too.

• 26:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Like all these. I had a lot of fun. It was great. I mean, I told 15 people or 14 people sent me two exes, bullet points and some photos of each person. Everybody interpreted that very differently.

• 26:22Rayna Greenberg?

  So that was quite a pride. I was like white knuckling my way through it, but once it was like all buttoned up and done, it just made me laugh so hard. I was laughing out loud at just like the shit that we have dealt with as women and like your mom participated, your aunt participated, your sister-in-law, your sister-in-law participated and then we voted at the end on the hottest acts, the best story and the worst acts and your aunt won.

• 26:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  She won for worst. Stephanie, my sister-in-law, won for hottest. Her, I couldn't choose between the two she submitted. I just was like, we were doing this and I was like, I am surrounded by the best women, like the funniest, the smartest, like there was not one miss. I mean, I was hearing later that people were like nervous because people hate public speaking, not us, but you know, some people like, I was so nervous to present. I'm like, you couldn't, you wouldn't be able to tell. Like, everybody was hilarious. Everybody had such funny stories to share and they shared them so well. And it just made us think like, men could never do this. They wouldn't have these stories. Like, we were, because I was talking to my fiance about it. He was like, should I do this? Like, you couldn't do it if you tried.

• 27:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, guys would have stories like, this girl broke my heart, she was such a bitch, or they'd have like, really drunk, you know, she threw up on me kind of stuff. But like, the stuff that, I mean, one of the stories was this guy slept with one of my friends the morning he proposed to his girlfriend. I mean, that was just one of many of these insane stories. And they weren't all like so dark. I mean, they were just ran, they were like on the spectrum of like terrible slash funny behavior, but crazy stuff. Like, we were gasping, like, oh my God, men are trash.

• 28:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I don't think that men could do this. I've always said this. I don't think that like men have stories like this. Like, men don't have crazy first date stories. I'm, none of my guy friends have like insane fucking stories or like, like you said, that they found, your friend found out that the guy she was sleeping with had left her place driven to propose and she found out on Facebook.

• 28:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, yeah, he said he had a family event. It was to literally go propose to his girlfriend. And she's married with kids and he's still in her DMs to this day. You look good. Like, and that was, the ghosting stories, just like, no God, I mean, I'm sure one, I'm sure there's a few exceptions to the rule, but guys don't have these stories of women being like, She, you know, told me I was the one and she flew me out to this place and that place and she introduced me to her family and she made me all these promises and then she never talked to me again. I mean, find me one.

• 28:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, my most basic story was this guy that told me, I never feel this way for anybody and I never want to like pull into a parking spot essentially because like I never feel like I can, I want to prioritize anybody and you're the person, you're the one. And that guy never talked to me again. And he still slides into my DMs every three months trying to fuck me. And I'm like, do you understand how rude you are to me? And it wasn't even the craziest. Another one of our friends, she met some guy at a concert. He flew to Portugal to go on a date, their second date together. They spent like four nights in Portugal and then he ghosted her. Never talked to her again. And she had to be like, hey, just wanted to see what happened here.

• 29:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jenny Jones was the funniest thing I've ever, I've never read a roast, like the one Jenny wrote. It was the longest, it must have been 10 bullet points. It filled the screen and every bullet was better than the one before it. I mean, we were just like, God, I mean, there's great guys out there. I found one of them, Steph found one of them, you know, Cory, but we were just like, oh my God, we have just been through it.

• 30:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And if you guys want to use this idea, steal it. Go into Canva. So I used a Canva template. I do use a presentation template on Canva and I just like wrote some funny stuff about, you know, all these guys that we've let inside of us and may a love like this never find us again. And it just was really fun.

• 30:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  We'll put it up on the screen if you guys watch on YouTube. We're going to put a bunch of assets up from The Bachelorette if you aren't watching there now. If you are, then you know, you know. But, okay, well, we are just going to thank our partners and then we will get back into it. Still so much to talk about.

• 30:30Rayna Greenberg?

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• 31:15Rayna Greenberg?

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• 31:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so Searchlight Pictures, new movie, The Roses. We've been hyping this for weeks and it is finally time. It comes out on August 29th in theaters everywhere. You can get tickets now. So this is a movie that we are so excited to tell you guys about. So it stars Benedict Cumberbatch and Olivia Colman. They appear to be the perfect couple, but when his career comes crashing down, just as her fame starts to skyrocket, you're going to see a lot going on. Fierce competition, growing resentment, threatening to destroy everything they built if they don't destroy each other first. But it's hilarious. I mean, it's this crowd pleasing comedy. Again, we mentioned the two leads, but Andy Samberg, Allison Janney, Kate McKinnon. We're just so excited. The cast is incredible.

• 32:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is from the director of Meet the Parents and the writer of Poor Things, directed by Jay Roach and screenplay by Tony McNamara. And we're just so, so excited for you guys to check this out. It's going to be a good one. I mean, I just, I feel like I'm more critical than movies than ever before. I feel like we have so much good TV and sometimes movies just like, don't do it for me like they used to. And I feel like this one is one that you guys are going to feel like really like hits all the marks and makes you laugh and, you know, makes you think. And we're just really excited about it. So you guys can see it starting tomorrow if you're listening to this on the day the episode drops. So it's in theaters everywhere, August 29th. Get tickets now to The Roses.

• 33:07Rayna Greenberg?

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• 33:49Rayna Greenberg?

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• 34:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, the Justin Bieber impersonator. Well, we have a little bit of a Bieber update overall, but this was last week and this blew my mind.

• 34:40Rayna Greenberg?

  So, Justin Bieber shows up at this club in Vegas with this entourage, well, fake Justin Bieber, and essentially runs up this $10,000 tab. He's wearing the Justin Bieber look with like, hoodie, sunglasses, looks kind of like aloof, doesn't care about anything, and gets pulled up on stage.

• 35:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, he said he wanted to go up on stage. Like, he said, like, so Griffin was the DJ that was DJing at this club in Vegas and we'll talk about what Griffin posted, but he's on stage DJing and I guess they, his... Timo Bieber's team comes up and says like, Justin wants to perform "I'm Sorry." And Griffin's like, "Yeah, of course." So, he goes up, he's onstage, he's performing "Sorry." Griffin is filming from his DJ booth, like, "Oh my god, Justin's here." The crowd is going wild. And the whole time, like, he had just gotten totally duped. So, Griffin posted a reel about it that's so hilarious. Like, when have you ever seen this happen? Like, he was like, "I was so excited." And, like, he didn't find out till after he's offstage

• 35:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  that it was this Justin Bieber catfish.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  That was insane. We gotta talk. That was actually insane. Completely fake. No way. Swear on my life. I literally thought, like, so, kind of, I was like, "Damn, he, like, put on a lot of weight since the album drops."

• 36:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, to watch the videos, it is a dead ringer for Justin Bieber. I don't know that I would've been able to, like, tell the difference. And at first I was like, "Why doesn't this happen more often, almost?" But like, I guess not many celebrities dress like that. Like, he is always sort of incognito a little bit. And it looked exactly like him. And people kind of noticed that the tattoos weren't the same. Like, that was one of the giveaways. He was like, "He didn't have the neck tat." I'm like, "Why do you know about all Justin Bieber's tattoos?" But, like, I think it's the combination of looking just like somebody, and being able to perform like them. Like, there's this Taylor Swift impersonator. I'm crazy. I've sent it to you. She looks more like Taylor Swift than Taylor Swift. I think her name's Ashley. She just dresses up and does videos in various characters. But the Taylor Swift one is insane.

• 36:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I don't think she dances and sings and goes up onstage. Like, it's the fact that he's showing up to the club. Like, it is so bold. Like, I was thinking, if I had an impersonator, I would rather them do stuff like this than creep around on the internet behind closed doors scamming people. Like, I would like for it to be out in the open. Like, if people showed up and were just like, "Hey, I'm Ashley and Reina, and I'm gonna do a Girls Gotta Eat little show." I just, I think it would be hilarious. They better be funny. How would say? Exactly. If people were like, "Ah, they fucking crushed it." I'd be like, "All right, I don't know, bring it on tour." I mean, it's like fraud and it's bad, but it's just, it really cracks me up.

• 37:32Rayna Greenberg?

  But this was like harmless fraud and I was just.

• 37:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, the $10,000 tab, I don't like.

• 37:36Rayna Greenberg?

  They paid it. So they did. They settled. They settled the tab. Cause the tab wasn't like under Justin Bieber's name. Like somebody had to like give a card for this, you know? So the tab was settled, but this is so dad. His, his movements are very similar to Justin Bieber. The way he kind of like hunches his shoulders and walked like he, he is an impersonator.

• 37:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. So I'd be curious like what Hailey Bieber would say if she saw this guy. If she'd be like, here's the tells. Obviously she knows it's not her husband, but I'd be curious what she would say. Like he doesn't have quite perfected.

• 38:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Is he super rude to her in public, slams car doors on her, just lets her trip in the street, doesn't help her? If it was one of those things, yeah.

• 38:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Justin Bieber posted a thirst trap. He is, looks like he's working out. He posted two photos of his topless body, you know, all his tats, everything.

• 38:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Topless body.

• 38:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Topless body. He, there's no top to his body. He's just, he's from the, his hips down. And the caption is two tongue out emojis and it says thirst trap for you hoes. Sir, you are married. We're, thirst traps are for the singles. What are you talking about thirst trap for you hoes? Hailey Bieber's in the comments with an eye roll emoji. What are we doing? Why are you embarrassing her?

• 38:55Rayna Greenberg?

  To have your wife have to like publicly be like, I'm going to come get my man now. Like, he's just embarrassing me again. It's so for you hoes. For you hoes. Can you imagine another married man posting that?

• 39:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Drewski is the top comment, which Drewski is on his album, like they're friends. But he, this is the top comment. He's like, you know, N word, what? Like, what are you, what are you doing? What are you doing? Like, I feel like holding him accountable. MTV commented, Sexy Red was in there. And then his wife eye roll emoji. What are people commenting back to Haley? I didn't check on that. There's thousands of comments. There's 60,000 likes on her comment. And then there's thousands of responses back to her. I love her comment. I mean, if they're happy, then fine. But the eye roll is the appropriate comment for a wife. When your husband is out here thirst trapping.

• 39:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, and I'm glad that she made a statement. I'm glad she wrote something. Because otherwise, the whole internet would be like, when is Hailey Bieber gonna break her silence on this? You know, and it's.

• 40:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hailey Bieber breaks her silence on Justin Bieber's thirst trap.

• 40:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, it always makes me laugh so hard when you see these like breaking news stories, like seen since the first time. They're like, I don't know if you saw these photos, but the Coldplay CEO, the woman, the HR woman, she was seen for the first time since the scandal broke. And she's just gardening outside her house. And all of the comments were like, she seems disheveled and beside herself. And it's like, she's watering the plants in a t-shirt.

• 40:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Oh, my God, it's so funny. I just feel like the Taylor and Travis engagement just completely wiped out Coldplay CEO for good. Like, I was like, what a distant memory.

• 40:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Today is a great day to have a bad day. Because whatever, like if you're getting canceled today, or something horrible is happening, not like, if you want to announce your breakup, do it today. Like, anything that you need to announce that's kind of terrible or cancel worthy, you should do that today. Because no one cares about you today.

• 40:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay, so next up, we have the Gwyneth Paltrow biography. So, and some of the tea, literally, surrounding it. But Rena, did you know that this is a biography written by someone else that she was not, she did not authorize or participate in? I didn't know if you knew this.

• 41:17Rayna Greenberg?

  So Amy Odell is an author. She's the author of this book. It is the quote unquote unofficial biography of Gwyneth Paltrow. She also wrote a book called Anna, about Anna Wintor, which I read, which was fantastic.

• 41:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think when I first saw this, I was like, how did this slip past us? You know, what else was going on that week? But I guess it is, it's not Gwyneth Paltrow writing an autobiography, but it feels even more salacious than that.

• 41:40Rayna Greenberg?

  So Amy Odell, I mean, I loved what she did with the Anna book. And again, Anna Wintor didn't sit with her for like long form interviews for this. But Anna Odell, I think she's had interviewed like 150 people.

• 41:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like 200 people for this.

• 41:52Rayna Greenberg?

  And so many quotes. And so she did the same thing with this. And there is so much tea in this. And speaking of like Chris Martin and Coldplay, I mean, Gwyneth Paltrow, she's dated some of the most famous sought after men in the world. I mean, top five most famous men in the world in terms of like A-list actors, Ben Affleck and Brad Pitt. She was engaged to Brad Pitt. So I do want to talk about what she wrote about Brad Pitt, but I'll do it after you talk about what she wrote about Ben Affleck.

• 42:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I guess this bit of information came from what Gwyneth told her makeup artist or something, but she also sort of teased it on Call Her Daddy. But what it is, is that Ben Affleck would teabag her.

• 42:33Rayna Greenberg?

  And she was into it.

• 42:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she was into it. And I, you know, I think of Ben as more of a coffee guy. I was just surprised to hear it. Like, he's out here teabagging? Like, I can't, it just is so funny to me.

• 42:47Rayna Greenberg?

  So some guys like to get blowjobs from, get blowjobs from that direction. And then you are just being teabagged on your face. Because if you hang your head off the bed, then their balls are just on your face. And that is teabagging, right?

• 42:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think.

• 42:59Rayna Greenberg?

  They have to be dipped in your mouth.

• 43:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I always thought the official description was that they were in your mouth.

• 43:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, define sexual teabagging for me.

• 43:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Chatty P T, hey girl. Glad you asked.

• 43:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Hey girl, hi. The act of a man repeatedly lowering his scrotum into the mouth or into the face slash head of another person often as a part of sexual activity. So it can mean that they're just hitting your face.

• 43:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I think there's like levels to it. I think top level is obviously in your mouth. But yeah, like you were teabagged and they were like in your eye sockets. And so really anywhere on your face can count.

• 43:39Rayna Greenberg?

  But she was into it and it says in the book that they had some issues and perhaps some infidelity issues and so she was just trying to keep it interesting.

• 43:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I'm wondering if he's teabagging J-Lo. I can't see J-Lo letting balls be on her face, or if he was, yeah, but can you?

• 43:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe she does it to be like more relatable, you know, she's just like, she's just like, I'm Jenny from the block, I'll get teabagged, you know?

• 44:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't see it. I think Gwyneth is spicy and I can see her being down for this and I can see J-Lo being like, I'm J-Lo, you're not putting your balls on my face.

• 44:11Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she takes herself too seriously to get teabagged.

• 44:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think she's like, I'm J-Lo. Get your balls out of my mouth. That's my moneymaker. I don't need your balls in my mouth. That's not part of my vocal training.

• 44:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you feel like she's like a musical, you think musical artists are a little spicier than actresses?

• 44:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Um, no. I think it's, I think, yeah, I think there's no rule when it comes to that. I think you have a bunch of freaky ass singers and a bunch of weird ass actors and it's just gonna, no rules across the board.

• 44:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I can't see J-Lo being that big into giving oral in general.

• 44:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I feel like J-Lo is a DJ Khalid vibe. Like she's like, I'm not sucking your dick, I'm J-Lo. Like that's-

• 44:53Rayna Greenberg?

  You're going down on me.

• 44:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 44:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally. I'm with you. I think that's spot on. And then, and later on in the book, Amy Odell does talk about, um, so Gwyneth Paltrow, she was engaged to Brad Pitt, they were together for three years and this conversation, it's hearsay, she's, you know, she says that, Gwyneth Paltrow is quoted as saying about Brad Pitt, he's dumber than a sack of shit.

• 45:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I could see it. You, I could see it.

• 45:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Dumber?

• 45:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know, like I, I literally, he's talented, obviously, but can I even recall him in an interview or something? I don't know. It's like, I feel like I can't, I feel like I can picture him getting- Quick sound bites on the red carpet, but have we seen an in-depth interview? Have we heard him talk at length? Has he been on New Heights podcast? Like, I really don't know him like that.

• 45:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think it's of that generation of actor. Like, I can't think of, like, big A-list actors, like even Ben Affleck, George Clooney. Like, I don't recall them in, like, long-form interviews in any way. It's sound bites.

• 45:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just love Gwyneth. You know, I just really do. Like, I really have always... I mean, she's had some problematic things in her past. I don't think anything, like, too crazy, but I've just... I think she's spicy. I think she's smart. She's built such an empire. I mean, her ski trial, like, she's so... She's funny. She's, like, sarcastic. And I can just see her being like these fucking idiots. Like, obviously, I'm gonna date Brad Pitt, given the opportunity. But he's so fucking stupid.

• 46:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like we've all dated that guy where you're like, "He's so hot, but, girl, he is so stupid." I like... Sometimes I hear the words coming out of his mouth, and I'm looking at him like, "If you didn't look like this, the fuck would I be here for?"

• 46:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. Uh, but, yeah, I mean, I absolutely would also let Ben Affleck put his balls anywhere. I mean, he's really been one of my number ones forever, and, you know, Ben Affleck, in the town, put him wherever. I'll suck on those balls, 100%.

• 46:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Honestly, he could have access to any...

• 46:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Dip him in my mouth, dunk him in my mouth, Duncan King. Let's do this thing. Whatever you want.

• 47:03Rayna Greenberg?

  There's nothing I would say no to with Ben Affleck. Anal. I could do it with Ben Affleck. Brad Pitt, I don't know. He's so pretty. I just don't see him being, like, that fun.

• 47:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've never been a Brad Pitt girl. I mean, I... He's so attractive, and he's, like, a legendary actor, but I've never been like, "Ooh, so hard for Brad Pitt."

• 47:26Rayna Greenberg?

  There was a time where I was kinda hard for Leo, but I think I just, I got over it.

• 47:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I don't, I just, I don't know what it is. I think those top, top actors are, they're not for me. Okay, let's move on to the logo change heard around the world.

• 47:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Cracker Barrel has changed its logo and people, you guys, people are upset. And this was part of a $700 million brand overhaul. So they are redoing the logo and the look of the stores in general, um, a bunch of the dishes on the menu. The Cracker audience is very upset.

• 48:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, Cracker Barrel was one of my favorite experiences as a kid. I mean, I grew up in a small town. I loved a chain restaurant no matter what, but you know, we had like Fridays and Applebee's, but we would go sometimes on road trips. Like Raina, I'd loved nothing more. Because you're a kid and you would hate like waiting in a restaurant for a table, but like the country store. Like I remember one time my parents let me get a porcelain doll from that fucking store, like all the candy, barrels everywhere. Like I just loved it so much. Like I had my favorite things on the menu. Like we would go probably once a summer on some road trip or another, like when my dad was racing cars and all that. Like I just, I loved it so much, but I haven't been in like 20 years. Like I have no dog in this fight.

• 48:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  People are saying it's woke or it's a DEI thing. It was just so ridiculous because we've seen this with every brand. I mean Jaguar, took the Jaguar out of the brand. Like they did take this old man out of the logo. They took the barrel out of Cracker Barrel. And they made it this like generic, anyone could make it in Canva looking logo. But this is just what we've seen. And I was watching this video on just how all of this is for stakeholders, like for like corporate America, all the old buildings that used to have a signature look, like a Pizza Hut or like a Wendy's with a sunroom or McDonald's Play Place. Like they've all changed into this like generic looking box. So they can be easier to sell and easier to change into something else. Like it's just business.

• 49:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Their stock is down. They're trying to refresh. They've done what so many other brands have doing. They weren't like, hey, that man looks, you know, a little dated. Let's change it. Like I don't think it's that, but it's so funny to me that the, the right always says like the left are these like Crybaby snowflakes and you guys are the ones freaking out about a logo change.

• 49:50Rayna Greenberg?

  People have, I mean, just in general, people have brand loyalty and they want me to look like it looks. I mean, I've thought about you and I, we've talked about like, you know, what if we changed the name, Girls Got to Eat? What if we changed the logo, things like that? Would it be the same brand? And people feel such loyalty to certain brands and I think that they wanted to like, modernize it. And I don't think that's what their customer base wants.

• 50:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, no. I hate it. I want to be clear. Like, I think it's ridiculous. I hate all this. I hate the Jaguar. It's the same thing as Jaguar, but anyway, keep going. Yeah, you have an iconic icon.

• 50:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you know they should have known that this was going to go very poorly? And I don't know why more people aren't talking about this. A year and a half ago, they, they decided to have a vegan sausage on the menu.

• 50:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  I forgot about that, Vegan Gate. I was hoping you would remember.

• 50:34Rayna Greenberg?

  So they decided to put vegan sausage, Impossible Meat, on the menu. One of hundreds of items they have at the Cracker Barrel, they didn't get rid of sausage, they just added a vegan option.

• 50:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 50:45Rayna Greenberg?

  People were enraged. Their customer base was so mad, carrying torches about the wokeness of this brand. All they wanted to do was modernize this. Everybody is becoming healthier. The world is trying to become healthier and provide some options for other people. And their customer base hated it. And so they should have known removing the thing that said like, "Old Country Store" and the barrel and the old man. Like, no one was going to like this. Your customer base has spoken.

• 51:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I was watching some like, top TikToks and reels about it. And obviously, there's like, the ones that kind of are talking about it from the business side and how misguided it is to say this was like, a woke agenda. But some of like, the black creators, like Kev onstage, he was, he did a whole thing of like, put the racism back in the logo.

• 51:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I saw that.

• 51:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, he was making jokes about it and he was like, "The comments are just insane." And like, I can't, you know, I'm, don't, this is not something I'm authorized to speak on as a white woman, but the comments are like, "The racism was part of the charm." But, you know, obviously, it's jokes and it's just people are joking about it. But I didn't realize about the refresh on the inside. Like, I was watching a reel of the old Cracker Barrel, and I love nostalgia. Like, I just was, couldn't get enough of like, the old scenes from the inside of the Cracker Barrel that I remember when I was a kid. And like, what it looks like now is like, so depressing. And that's just the way these things are going. Like, they're supposed to feel just gray and no character. And that's what... The corporate America stakeholders want and capitalism wants and so it's sad like I

• 52:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  would never set foot in one of these now like if you could transport me back to an old Cracker Barrel like I would go for this nostalgia of it but these are so sad the look is so sad.

• 52:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, it just waters down the brand, right? Like it just makes it like every other brand. So I understand.

• 52:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which is just like I, I don't understand it like I these logos there like again it's like does not affect my life in any meaningful way day to day. The Jaguar one was close to home because that's what I drive. Like you have an icon as part of your logo. You take that out. It's what it's just words. It's so silly.

• 52:54Rayna Greenberg?

  They just listen. They went too far and they should have taken a page out of Walmart's book and just slightly changed the font.

• 53:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 53:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Smaller.

• 53:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 53:06Rayna Greenberg?

  In January Walmart changed, I use changed in quotes, changed their logo so slightly and the internet was just like, is the rebrand in the room with that?

• 53:18Rayna Greenberg?

  People get upset. So I mean, we, everybody made fun of Walmart, but I guess Walmart had it right.

• 53:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  The one of the funniest things I saw was Uncle Herschel, that was his name, the man in the logo. If someone replaced that with the Dave Chappelle crackhead character.

• 53:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I get some more of that Cracker Barrel?

• 53:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  So anyway, whatever you think is is fine. It's just it's so funny to me that it would be like the right white people that are actually all up in arms about this. They're the ones that are like, oh, the left gets so offended.

• 53:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. Can't you guys have fun? Um, all right. Well, we're going to do your headlines and then we're going to get out of here for the day. So the commercial that took America by storm, Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle jeans, I've got good jeans commercial. Gap has responded and Gap laid their big gap dick on the table.

• 54:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 54:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it. So they have a 90 second commercial with a girl group. It's called Cat's Eye. It's sold to a milkshake.

• 54:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  By Khaleesi. Khaleesi got in the chat.

• 54:24Rayna Greenberg?

  So much diversity. It is so fun to watch. It's a dance video, which Gap does these large ensemble dance videos a lot. And I just, I love what this brand is doing. They had a all minority group of women, a minority choreographer, minority woman singing the, the song. The lyrics are better than yours. I mean, there's so much subtle shade. It's so fun to watch. It's like, what commercials should be, it's inclusive. I just, I smile when I think about it. I, I just love it. If you guys haven't watched it, you should watch immediately.

• 54:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, and we'll put it on the screen if you guys are watching on YouTube. But you showed this to me and I was watching it and I was getting like chills. It was just incredible. But I was like, man, does it feel good to be on the right side of history? Like, it feels so good to be like Team Gap in this beef that maybe may or may not exist. Like, it feels so good to be like Team Diversity, Team Inclusivity. I saw this tweet and it said, notice how there's no weird jeans puns, just them advertising in a fun, simple, non-propagandist way. And, you know, I just, even moms were saying, like, my daughter, my, like, we're an Indian family, my daughter, to see this singer, like, on this huge advertisement or this billboard or in the window, store window, and like, see someone that looks like her.

• 55:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, I just love it. And Gap forever. And I've, I've always been a Gap stan. I'm a big fan. Their new, like, collab with Base is gorgeous. And so, we just love to see it.

• 55:50Rayna Greenberg?

  So, watch the commercial. If you guys want like a little pick me up, I have watched it so many times. It's really so much fun.

• 55:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 55:57Rayna Greenberg?

  So, you need some pick me ups are the people at Burning Man right now.

• 56:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right as our Burning Man correspondent.

• 56:04Rayna Greenberg?

  So, I didn't really, Burning Man got a lot of attention about two years ago. I, I will tell you guys what Burning Man is, because I didn't realize, a lot of people kind of don't know what Burning Man is. And even though it's, I feel like it's part of like the cultural zeitgeist, but people don't really necessarily understand like what it is. So, it's, it's a week long cultural artistic festival, takes place every year in Nevada. It's Black Rock Desert. And it's different than your, like, traditional festivals that have, like, all of these brand activations and the, the stages are already built. The whole idea is that, like, people come, it's usually like 80,000 people, they build everything from scratch, and at the end of the week, they burn it all down, clean it all up, the whole thing is, like, leave no trace. So, did you know this, knew this much about Burning Man?

• 56:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent. I'm not surprised at least. Like it is something you would know about. And if like you've liked guys that were like Burning Man guys, but then you say like, I don't want a Burning Man guy. But then there you are, you know, it's just like, I, this is not, this knowledge is not surprising to me at all. So keep it rolling, sis.

• 57:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. So it's about, you know, radical self-expression, creativity, community. Honestly, I love the, I love the looks. I love whatever he wears. I like the art. Um, a couple of years ago, gained a lot of media attention because there was extreme flooding and no one could get in or out of the campgrounds. And you're talking about tens of thousands of people were like trapped. And this year was unbelievable dust storms, like 50 mile an hour winds. It blew everything over. Everybody has to build their tents. And one of the things, the structures that got destroyed was the orgy dome.

• 57:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, what is that? I can't believe it. Is there, was there, there's like a real place to go have orgies at Burning Man?

• 57:43Rayna Greenberg?

  That's, listen, it's about radical self-expression, Ashley.

• 57:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I'm in support of it, but the orgy dome is crazy.

• 57:49Rayna Greenberg?

  People, they, people need a space to have orgies, you know? And what I tell you, nothing makes me less horny than building a hut in the desert and being dirty. And there's no floor and I gotta fuck in a tent full of people that haven't showered in days and smells, ugh.

• 58:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  It looks like a war zone and like this was what it was a couple of years ago, or last year, year before, whatever, whatever it was. Like it looks like hell on earth, but I think some of these people get off on that. I think they think like the harder the struggle, the more intense it looks to people on the outside. Like the more dust and dirt and wind and rain and flooding, like they get off on it. I could be wrong, but it looks like hell.

• 58:30Rayna Greenberg?

  People just, I mean, I think that they, it's a sign of like endurance to be able to do this. I can't relate to it. It's not for me.

• 58:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly what I'm saying.

• 58:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't even like a regular music festival unless you and I get VIP passes. Like I don't even really want to go to that. So if you saw like the aerial views of people even trying to get into the festival, I mean, people waited 12 to 15 hours to pull their RVs into this. And I just want to let you, they pay for the privilege of doing so.

• 58:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:57Rayna Greenberg?

  The cheapest ticket, I just looked up the prices, the most affordable, cheapest ticket is $550. And then you need a parking pass for a hundred and fifty and then you have to bring all your own supplies. So for the price of seven hundred dollars, you get to go be in hell and tickets range to three thousand dollars.

• 59:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, for sure. I would be, that seems cheap for what the VIP experience, which what would that even be?

• 59:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't even know.

• 59:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just more dirt and rain.

• 59:25Rayna Greenberg?

  First access to the porta potties.

• 59:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly. Okay, so Burning Man is fucked, uh, you know, per usual and we have some new TV out. So Love is Blind UK, season two is out. We are loving it. We love season one. I love the hosts. And I just love these people and I am pretty caught up with the episodes that are out now, like they're on the honeymoon. So I know everyone that gets married and I will say, everyone is hot.

• 59:58Rayna Greenberg?

  So hot, obscenely hot.

• 1:00:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not what Love is Blind is about. Love is Blind is about people that are gonna fall in love with strangers they've never seen in real life. And then say that looks don't matter and then they propose to them and then they're like, I don't care what they're gonna look like. I don't care when they come around that wall, what they're gonna look like. I love them for who they are on the inside. And then they're not attracted to them and then they break up and they have to admit that love isn't blind. That's what this show is about. And so put a bunch of hot people together. It's not fair. It's not what it's, I love it. I love to see it, but like, part of the allure of watching the show is you know, someone's not gonna be attracted to the person when they come walking down that aisle. And then you're like, let's fucking go.

• 1:00:39Rayna Greenberg?

  The UK is like, stack it. Every person on that show is obscenely hot. We, you and I thought the first season was obscenely hot. And this is even hotter. Everybody, all the guys are tall, all the women are super fit, like everybody is great.

• 1:00:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not American. They're just, you know, healthier and.

• 1:00:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not living in this country and you know that's I love their accents. I love all their stories and I it's diverse and I'm just so into it. I just love it so much. So that's out and we're loving that. Raina, I'm gonna do my doppelgangers because I they're all like, um, no, no, no, not right now. Next week I'll do them. They're all like on the tip of my brain. Like I, I, they, so many of these people look like other people, but I really have to sit down and work this out. So I'm gonna do my Love is Blind doppelgangers next week. So you guys watch the show if you haven't and then we'll, we'll reconvene.

• 1:01:30Rayna Greenberg?

  When you told me that Love is Blind was out, the rush that went through my body, like I didn't even go out last night in New York.

• 1:01:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, what else is out?

• 1:01:39Rayna Greenberg?

  There's tons of stuff out. I mean, we're gonna have like a great fall lineup and we'll do a fall TV roundup coming up. But um, we want to wish you guys a great Labor Day weekend. Have fun, be safe, just enjoy your time off and um, we love you guys.

• 1:01:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  girlsgottaeat.com, Girlsgottoe Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, AshHess.com for tour tickets. Again, we'll be at Lady World. We're doing a Vibes Only class. We've mentioned that before. Uh, you can follow Raina on Instagram at Rayna Greenberg. Uh, subscribe on YouTube, share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

• 1:02:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a great weekend, guys.

• 1:02:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.