#414 - “Nephilim DNA” Knights Templar, Rothschilds & The True Satan | Gary Wayne

Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Gary Wayne is a researcher & author who focuses on biblical prophecy, history, and mythology. His extensive study has encompassed the Bible, Gnostic scriptures, the Qur’an, the Bhagavad Vita and Rig Vedas, the Popul Vuh, Epic of Gilgamesh, Ugaritic Texts, and other ancient epics, language etymology, and secret society publications. SPONSORS https://ethos.com/danny - Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes. https://irestore.com/dannyjones - Use code DANNYJONES for huge savings on iRestore. https://upwork.com - Visit UpWork right now and post your job for free. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off. EPISODE LINKS https://genesis6conspiracy.com FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - How AI brings the biblical End Times 08:00 - The prophecy narratives of the Bible 11:30 - Polytheism vs. monotheism 17:58 - Archangels & angelic names 22:53 - True origin of the Great Flood myth 30:34 - Evidence of 40ft giants in ancient texts 39:54 - Evidence of giants beyond the Bible 43:40 - Atlantis & the flood myth 45:59 - Angelic technology & DNA manipulation 53:42 - The Tower of Babel & ancient buried knowledge 01:05:54 - The "End Times" gods & destruction by fire 01:12:56 - Knights Templar's end times god 01:19:14 - Freemasons' & Knights Templar's artifacts 01:28:58 - Modern day descendants of the Nephilim 01:35:04 - Yahwism 01:37:20 - Free will vs. an omnipotent God 01:39:54 - The true Satan 01:46:43 - Gnosticism 01:49:12 - Prometheus & the different forms of Satan 01:54:34 - Nephilim DNA found in modern humans 02:05:26 - The Royals & the 4-class system 02:09:29 - Origin of the Rothschilds 02:17:08 - Royal inbreeding 02:22:08 - Polytheistic Christianity 02:25:36 - The AI doomsday scenario 02:29:53 - Theory Israel is trying to bring the End Time 02:36:46 - Roswell & portals in Antarctica in 1947 02:45:17 - Historical evidence of "Gray" alien abductions 02:47:44 - Elementals 02:56:59 - The Reptilian & Insectoid races Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:07Danny Jones?

  Pleasure to meet you, Gary Wayne. Thanks for coming.

• 1:09Speaker 02

  Well, thank you for inviting me and so happy to be with you. Very much looking forward to the conversation. And hopefully, and if we do our jobs right, maybe we'll raise more than a few eyebrows with your audience.

• 1:22Danny Jones?

  I think that could be likely. You've got all your beautiful books here laid out for us. So, The Genesis 6 Conspiracy, is that your first book?

• 1:32Speaker 02

  Yes, this is book one.

• 1:34Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  And it's subtitled, "How Secret Societies and the Descendants of Giants Plan to Enslave Humankind." Book two is more specifically for Christians, because they wanted me to take the research that I did with this and go deeper into the Bible.

• 1:51Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  And so it's subtitled, "Understanding Pre-History and Giants Helps to Define End-Time Prophecy."

• 1:58Speaker 02

  This is the third book that just came out in April, now available on Audible, or at least it should be up today or yesterday. That was the date that Amazon had set.

• 2:09Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  And this is a book that is a novel versus research. And I co-author with my publisher, who wanted to take my research, both in prehistory and end time prophecy, and take that more mainstream, so to a larger market, which is the fiction market. So we've created a narrative about how the end time might come about, using my research and eschatology, based on where we are today, and how AI is going to affect it. So the book is called The Oprimo Conspiracy,

• 2:42Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  AI's Covenant with Babylon.

• 2:45Danny Jones?

  Who's this beautiful lady with the hijab around her face?

• 2:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, and the crazy eyes, right? The orange eyes.

• 2:52Danny Jones?

  Yeah, she has some wild looking eyes.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  Her name is Becky, Rebecca, Becky for short. She's one of the main characters in the book. And she is the one who is going to be an intermediary in terms of how you get the message from the throne room of God down to the earth. And so as the book opens up with the seals and Jesus opening the seals, she's going to be the one to sort of let, how do the people of the earth understand what's going on as the last seven years approach and start? So she's the intermediary. The reflection that's in her eyes, it's not her eye color. She would have distinct colors when people know my research,

• 3:35Speaker 02

  but the color is a reflection of a flame, or an orange color.

• 3:40Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  And so she's reflecting the flame of the Holy Spirit, who is guiding her and helping her. And she is one of two flames that we cover in the book, which is rather unique for Christians, because we look at it from a perspective that everything that is talked about in the Bible, the spurious forces are going to counterfeit. So there's going to be two flames. There's going to be a holy flame and a counterfeit flame from the polytheist side. And so there'll be- Be competing as they compete through the visible ones that are on the earth. So it's quite a concept and we wrap all of the characters in with bloodlines and history that go back into prehistory and we put the place them particularly the spirit side or the polytheist side.

• 4:26Speaker 02

  We place them into not just gensas and bloodlines, but into secret societies that they're representing as they're working together.

• 4:36Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a completely different take and what we want to do is create an interesting novel to give people a better understanding because if you think about how the end time comes about from whether or not it's a monotheist perspective or a polytheist perspective.

• 4:55Danny Jones?

  It's like a phone book.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  It is. The second book's slightly smaller. I only promised that it'd be a little bit smaller when I did book two, which I did do. It's only 700 and some odd pages.

• 5:04Danny Jones?

  700 pages.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, um, and one of the premises of my research is that if one really wants to understand from a polytheist side or a monotheist side, how the end time is going to come about. That's talked about in both belief systems all around the world and all of the religions around the world. You have to understand prehistory.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  Because it's following a cycle of time, no matter how you look at how it's described. It's a procession. It is the age of Aquarius with the water bearer, starting in terms of the polytheist side with a destruction by fire. It's the end of the age as the Bible describes it, also destroyed by fire. The differences in the lenses as how as to how the religious aspects look at it differ from only that particular biases of the lens. So in other words, from a multiple or pantheon of gods or a singular god and nuanced in terms of how the outcome is played out.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  And depending on which side you are as a proponent, you're going to see that a little bit differently. But understand they're talking about the same events. And that's the point of my research is that this is a common legacy, common history and a common destiny that we're all going to go through. And we're going to see it through different lenses. And the more we learn about it is gonna be key to helping us make our decisions, particularly as we get into the age of disclosure that's so popular on the internet today.

• 6:41Danny Jones?

  Hmm. So what initially led you down this path and got you so interested in this?

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, this sounds like crazy stuff at first blush. And at that time, it was even more crazy in terms of what my perspective would have been. And I got into it rather innocently. I was, you know, 20 or 21 and it was a Friday night and I have a brother and he brought over a friend and we're deep into the beers. And one of them brings up, and I don't know which one, as my memory recalls at this point in time, but they started talking about things like the false prophet and Antichrist. And I thought they were just crazy, but it's beer night. So then one of them said, we have a challenge for you. And I said, well, what was the challenge? And they said, well, if you have enough courage, we have a book for you to read.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  And I thought, well, I'm not afraid of anything. I'm not going to back down. I have no idea what book it's going to be. And it certainly wasn't the book I thought it might be. And so it was a book called The Late Great Planet Earth by a fellow by the name of Hal Lindsey, who was a prophetic writer in the 60s, 70s and 80s and just recently died. And so I read it and I wasn't familiar with end time prophecy, but it scared the socks off of me. So I wanted to verify whether or not what Hal was writing was accurate. Was he embellishing it?

• 8:08Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 8:09Speaker 02

  Was there any truth to it? And I thought, even if there's 10% truth to it, I probably need to find a little bit more about it. But the only way you can verify it is you have to start reading the Bible. And that's not an easy read, and it was not easy for me to read. And I ended up getting a modern translation because the Baconian English just sort of made my mind go to mush and nothing was sinking in. And I know, as I, you know, later understood is I would need to understand other Bible translations if I'm going to communicate. So Christians like to communicate for the most part in the KGV or the King James Version Bible. So you have to become fluent in terms of the translations of each, which is a fairly large task. But

• 8:53Speaker 02

  I decided I wanted to verify and understand and be able to communicate to people whether this was true or not. So I started reading the Bible and I got hooked on it and particularly all the prophecy narratives. And then all this other stuff about prehistory that was I was not understanding and I needed to, as I was going through my research, I was going to learn to make more notes about things. So what I would do is I would log each of the prophetic narratives, which I start with highlighters because I'm kind of a Rubik at this at that point. And Diamond, you run out of colors. I get more colors, you run out of colors. So this is before, it wasn't before the age of computers, but they weren't

• 9:35Speaker 02

  very common when I started the research. And so I started to handwrite all of the different passages and the main points into files of the different prophecy narratives. And as you do that, you run across very quickly in Genesis 6 about something really crazy that I thought at the time, which was giants. But it resonated with me as well because I was also

• 9:57Danny Jones?

  Genesis is the beginning, right?

• 9:58Speaker 02

  Genesis 6 is at the beginning, the sixth chapter of the first book. And I wasn't a Christian at this point in time. I had left Christianity. I was baptized, but I would become completely secular evolution, all of it.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  But I was also a history and a mystery buff, and I read significant books about these topics when I was young. And I understood a lot of the mythologies, like the Greek mythology, like the Egyptian mythology, like the Sumerian mythology. I understood there was a relationship here, which was going on in Genesis 6 with other accounts that I was already aware of, but I was shocked, the Bible is talking about this.

• 10:42Danny Jones?

  Right, and way after other accounts of it are recorded, right?

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Well, technically, yes. But that comes from a dating which is accurate in terms of how people would label that, but not perhaps accurate in terms of how it comes about. So, if you're looking at, for example, Sumerian accounts of the flood in the Epic of Gilgamesh, and that he's two-thirds God and one-third human, just as Enki do is, and that he is created after the flood as sixth generation, son of King Lugol Banda, and the fertility goddess, Nyn or Nyn Sun, depending on which translation that you're looking at. This is a post-Diluvian

• 11:26Speaker 02

  creation of a giant that is also encapsulating, as you get further into the Epic of Gilgamesh and into the later tablets, the flood story. And the oldest copy we have of that on those stone ones is about 2150 B.C., but you have partials that go back even further. Now, the Bible comes down to us in the time of Moses. So depending on when one is going to time when Moses comes, that's going to be somewhere from about 1450 down to 1200, depending on whose timing for that history that you're going to talk about.

• 12:00Danny Jones?

  The Bible?

• 12:01Speaker 02

  No, Moses's account.

• 12:03Danny Jones?

  Oh, Moses first account. Okay.

• 12:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, in terms of he was provided the first five books from God.

• 12:09Danny Jones?

  Right, I see.

• 12:09Speaker 02

  So the dating has to be older than that, from the timing that Moses receives the first five books, which includes Genesis. And so, yes, you have a dating in the polytheist versions that are older. Is the story older? Likely not, because it's being provided at that time, and it's telling the same event.

• 12:30Danny Jones?

  Okay, so we don't confuse people. Can you define what you're talking about when you say the polytheists?

• 12:35Speaker 02

  A polytheist is somebody who believes in multiple gods.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  A monotheist believes in one God. Now in-

• 12:44Danny Jones?

  So you're talking about Christianity?

• 12:45Speaker 02

  I'm talking about Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. But the monotheist aspects of Christianity, the monotheist aspects of Islam, the monotheist aspects of Judaism. What do I mean by that? So in Judaism, you have sort of the orthodox, Judaic, conservative belief system. And then you have the polytheist one, which is the Kabbalah, or the mystical side, or the ascenic side, one being Egyptian, one being Babylonian in its roots, in terms of how it comes into Judaism. But that is worshiping a pantheon of gods, of angels that rebel.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  So biblically, we understand these as angels and gods. They're understood as a pantheon of gods in the polytheist religions. And you're gonna have groups of polytheist gods before the flood, after the flood, and a hierarchy of those gods, just as you would have that in the Bible with the Yisabah, or the Host of Heaven, which is an army of angels. There's a loyal side and a disloyal side. And so, we look at that from a polytheist lens as a typical dualism of good versus evil. But polytheism has a dualism that's macro and micro. Micro is good versus evil within the religion, so black magic, white magic.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Good giants, evil giants. As we know today, white hats, black hats. But that type of imagery versus their macro, which raises their supreme god and goddess up to a level of being equal with the god of the Bible. And that there's this perpetual, ongoing battle between good and evil. Now, they're gonna look at themselves as the good, and the children of light, and the monotheists look at ourselves the same way. So, but in the polytheist perspective, that battle never ends. There's just more games going on. The image that they might put out there is Satan and God having a chess match. And when the chess match game ends, they start another one. It goes over and over and over.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  It never completely ends. In a monotheist version, you have that same history, the same players, but there is an end where evil disappears.

• 15:09Danny Jones?

  Got it. And when is that? And that's, that's what you're talking, that's the, the

• 15:13Speaker 02

  The end of the age. Yeah. The end of the age, revelation, end times.

• 15:18Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 15:19Speaker 02

  Or the age of Aquarius, as we would understand.

• 15:22Danny Jones?

  I just started reading the Bible for the first time and I'm reading it backwards.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:26Danny Jones?

  I started with revelation and it sent me for a fucking spiral.

• 15:29Speaker 02

  Well, it is something that is undescribable if people haven't read it in terms of what it talks about. The imagery and it, and the thing that I, I've been educating Christians on since I came on to the public forum about 10 years ago now, probably closer to 11, is the Bible is the most preternatural book ever written.

• 15:54Danny Jones?

  The most what?

• 15:54Speaker 02

  Preternatural.

• 15:55Danny Jones?

  What does that mean?

• 15:56Speaker 02

  Supernatural.

• 15:57Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay. Oh, totally.

• 15:58Speaker 02

  Yes. And we should not ever, as a Christian, walk away from that. The polytheists celebrate preternatural activity and supernatural activity. We should not be ashamed as to what the Bible describes and we should be prepared to defend that.

• 16:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it sounds like, and Giorgione told me that the, the guy who wrote, the dude who wrote Revelation was like tripping his balls off.

• 16:26Speaker 02

  Well, the fellow, his name is John.

• 16:28Danny Jones?

  On an island.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, he, he's from Patmos and he is obviously a disciple. Some people think it's actually John, one of the original disciples with Jesus. He writes at about between 90 and 100 AD by historical sort of writings and settings versus other speculation that's out there. So it could be, we're not, we're not sure who John of Patmos is, but that he's at least an apostle. Possibly the disciple Jesus loved that people would also describe John as.

• 17:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  Who would be selected to be around for the end time, along with other disciples that Jesus promised that to. I have passages for people if they want to get ahold of me on that. But John is taken in vision. To heaven. It's kind of like the Ezekiel vision that the alien mythos group likes to have in Ezekiel 1, 3, and 10, where the chariot of gods and that whole movement with the chariot of God that's in, in the book of Ezekiel. And so he's taken to heaven and he's going to be shown a vision by an angel that is the testimony of Jesus. So Jesus is providing this vision for John to write down for the end time.

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• 18:50Speaker 02

  Well, yes, John, Jesus will be there, but it's going to be an angel that's going to be presenting the vision to him. So another angel, likely an archangel, as we would understand it, one like a Gabriel or a Michael. And I say that just deliberately where I have a EL little...

• 19:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Why do you say it like that?

• 19:13Speaker 02

  Well, because in angelic names, they end with a Hebrew word, a word which is EL, which is defined as an angel or a god. And so if you have an angel that is in polytheism like Ariel, could be one that's loyal, could be one that's disloyal, but we don't have that name in the Bible. We only get two real names for the angels, Gabriel. There's two other ones like Raphael and Uriel and the Apocrypha, but that's not sort of standard canon. So that's why I limit it to that. But Ariel means lion of God or God's lion, right? Ariel would be like a God who is, has a, has a face of a lion.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  Just as a seraphim angel has the face of a serpent with six wings. And if that sounds familiar from a polytheist perspective, most of the pantheons are made up of dragon gods or serpent-faced gods and other ones like cats or lions. So like Nergal out of the Sumerian pantheon is depicted as a lion's head and a human body. It would be coming out of the Trubum class, which has actually four different faces and it would take a face

• 20:30Speaker 02

  of one when it made itself into a physical presence because angels are, have a capability of turning from spirit into a physical presence. And we get that biblically in a few, in a number of chapters, but for the Christians that might be out there are going to check me on it, just bear with me on this. Hebrews 13 where we're told to be kind to strangers lest we come across an angel unaware. So they can be in a physical form and unknown.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  In the Sodom and Gomorrah narrative just before, Yahweh of the Elohim, Lord God as it is in the Bible, takes a physical body and he goes with two angels that take a physical body. Abraham, whom they're going to meet, doesn't recognize them as first as preternatural beings, but as men. And then understands them and they eat, drink, physically interact. And then those two angels go off to Sodom and Gomorrah afterwards, who they're recognized as angels as well, and they want to have sex with them for, depending on your perspective, what kind? Is it to produce more giants? Or is it to have homosexual sex? Because we're not told exactly what the sex is. And an angel can take a form of a female.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  Or a male.

• 21:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 21:50Speaker 02

  Just as you see the pantheon populated by male gods. Let's say like, uh, I'll do a safe pantheon because there's one mother goddess that's got a terrorist name attached to it. So let's go.

• 22:05Danny Jones?

  What was that name?

• 22:06Speaker 02

  I don't want to have taken down or have YouTube.

• 22:10Danny Jones?

  Oh, I won't. Don't worry about it. It won't happen.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  Well, it's the consort of Osiris.

• 22:14Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 22:15Danny Jones?

  Isis?

• 22:16Speaker 02

  Yes. So, um, and so that would be a male god and a female goddess. And she would be understood as one of the queens of heaven. Those are offspring gods versus the parent gods.

• 22:29Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  From a Christian perspective, we would know that as Baal and Anat after the flood. The main gods of the Ugaritic texts that talks about the creation of the Rephaim after the flood. And the parent gods before the flood would be Astaroth and El, El. As, as an angel or a god, but that was the name of their chief god.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Parent gods ruled before the flood. Offspring gods rule after the flood. So Baal succeeds El. And those gods, the parent gods were killed by the offspring gods. So you can't kill something that's immortal. So they go to a pit prison, as we understand that, uh, in the religious text or, uh, the abyss prison. That Revelation nine is talking about with beings that are released in the end time. These are, uh, also the parent gods, not only are there, but also the offspring gods who create giants and do the same violations again after the flood. They go there. But that doesn't mean they're not ruling the earth today. As I said, mentioned, these are armies of angels

• 23:33Speaker 02

  or gods, and they have rank and order. So as ones might be sent to the pit prison,

• 23:41Speaker 02

  other ones would move up to replace them and they would rule from what is known in polytheism and monotheism as the council of the gods who rule this earth until the end time is played out. So.

• 23:54Danny Jones?

  This flood narrative, do you, when do you think that this flood could have happened historically?

• 24:01Speaker 02

  Well, I would say for the record, there's likely more than one flood.

• 24:04Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  But there's only one great flood.

• 24:07Danny Jones?

  Like the most recent one that these texts are talking about, probably talking about the same flood, right?

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, so.

• 24:12Danny Jones?

  And it's, it's in so many different texts.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  Well, that's the thing, like with the giants, like with pyramids, like with so many other things, you have the same accounts, and in this case, the flood and the creation of the giants, that is in all religions all around the world. It's on all continents all around the world.

• 24:30Danny Jones?

  And we also have figures that are described in correlation with this flood, like we have Noah.

• 24:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:35Danny Jones?

  We have Quetzalcoatl. And then we have, what is it, Enki or Enlil?

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Yes, those are, you described two offspring gods and Noah.

• 24:46Danny Jones?

  Or was it Deucalion was the one?

• 24:47Speaker 02

  Well, Deucalion is the Greek version.

• 24:50Danny Jones?

  Deucalion is the Greek version.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  Yes, and Pyrrhus is, is, is Deucalion's wife. Deucalion is not Noah. Deucalion would be more equivalent to

• 25:02Speaker 02

  Napistim.

• 25:04Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  The figure that Gilgamesh is talking about, let me just sort of get this, because it gets confusing.

• 25:10Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  For people aren't familiar with the information. Deucalion is the son of Prometheus.

• 25:15Danny Jones?

  Prometheus, yes, that's correct.

• 25:17Speaker 02

  And he's a god, right? And so Deucalion is a giant or a hero in the Greek or earthly titan. This is the same story as Genesis six, where the sons of God create giants or Nephilim, as they're said in plural, through human females. It's the same story. And so Deucalion and Pyrrha, with him being son of Prometheus, is a giant survival story versus a human survival story. Gilgamesh, as I said, is two thirds god, one third human. In Greek mythology, they're called demigods, which in the ancient term means the offspring of the gods and a human female. So just as Zeus after the flood creates Hercules from the female Elmeni.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  That's a post-Diluvian giant versus an anti-Diluvian giant, anti-Diluvian before the flood, post-Diluvian after the flood, for the terminology that I'm talking about here. And there's two different records, but you have to understand this important piece of prehistory to understand how the linear nature of history goes forward through the gods and the flood event, because it's a standard all around the world, right? So, in the Epic of Gilgamesh, he's talking about Utnapistim, who's two-thirds god and one-third human. He's the ultimate, perfect giant, and all of his family are giants to survive the flood, to restart giants.

• 26:47Danny Jones?

  He's the Noah.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  He's the Noah, but not a human Noah, a giant like Noah. So, on the macro level...

• 26:54Danny Jones?

  And just to clarify, the ancient Greek Noah was...

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Deucalion.

• 27:01Danny Jones?

  Deucalion, right. And the story is Prometheus is the one that brought fire and technology to humankind. Zeus wanted to flood the earth, and essentially Prometheus was the one who wanted to save humanity from Zeus.

• 27:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, that would be a little bit exaggerating in terms of Prometheus' role, but he did provide knowledge that Zeus didn't want to have out. That would be accurate. Zeus is a offspring god. The god that would be before the flood would be Uranus or Cronos, that's the parent god, and Gaia would be the mother goddess. So Zeus inherits the mythos as the chief god of the Greeks after the flood. So it's kind of a retelling of the history through these gods. They inherit the position and the mythos. So there would

• 28:04Speaker 02

  be a separate, just on the Stichler point, there'd be a separate individual before the flood. That would be providing the knowledge to humans. And biblically, you might look at that from the book of Enoch, which is outside the Bible. But Azazel, or Azazel, depending on how you want to pronounce that, is the one who is the scapegoat who presides most of the illicit knowledge from heaven to humankind. So you would look at that as the same type of story, but one seen from a polytheist lens versus a monotheist lens.

• 28:38Danny Jones?

  Okay. Yeah, I was always told that Prometheus was the one that tried to save humanity from the flood and tried to get, gave them technology.

• 28:45Speaker 02

  Well, he's certainly providing them knowledge, right?

• 28:48Danny Jones?

  And he was the one that created humanity?

• 28:50Speaker 02

  Well, no, no, humanity is created, is well before that. And again, depending on how you're understanding that through the lens of an offspring god or a parent god, it would be in the polytheist perspective is that the pantheon of gods would have created humans before the flood, right? And then some would survive. And again, they have stories all around the world.

• 29:18Danny Jones?

  And then so he sent Deucalion, his son, to

• 29:22Speaker 02

  Restart the

• 29:22Danny Jones?

  To restart.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  The demigod race versus the human race.

• 29:26Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Distinction, it's important to understand.

• 29:29Danny Jones?

  So he only wanted, he didn't save humans?

• 29:32Speaker 02

  No.

• 29:32Danny Jones?

  He just saved a few women to mate with?

• 29:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, no, no, no, I agreed to that a little bit too quickly.

• 29:40Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  So he, he, he, um, so what he did was he allowed a female giant and a giant male to survive the flood.

• 29:54Danny Jones?

  A female, what do you mean giant? Do you mean giant, doesn't the way we think about giants today, just like big, tall?

• 30:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, and even bigger. And uglier and more scarier. Yes.

• 30:05Danny Jones?

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• 31:34Speaker 02

  So when we're talking about a giant, there are two classifications of them, actually three. We can get maybe down the road into the third grouping. And there's different kinds of offspring of the gods too, which is another distinct story. Before the flood, the giants are thought to be, and I don't go beyond this based on looking at reliefs and physical things that we can look back to, to, to try and triangulate how big they were.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  They're not bigger from an antediluvian before the flood than 20 to 40 feet tall. Some people would say as high as 400 feet or 600 feet using the book of Enoch and saying it's a cubit versus another measurement called an L, which is speculative. I don't rule it out that they could be that big, but we just don't have information that sort of triangulates up to be that size. So 20 to 40 feet tall would be a size of a antediluvian or before the flood. After the flood, the largest giant that's recorded is Gilgamesh in the Epic of Gilgamesh, and he's recorded as 11 cubits. And he's the son of King Lugabanda, king of Aruk.

• 32:46Speaker 02

  And Josephus gives us an interesting little tidbit that giants were the royals. They were the rulers.

• 32:55Danny Jones?

  Josephus.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  Yes, he's a Jewish historian.

• 32:58Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:58Speaker 02

  Who was, did that recording in the time of the destruction of Jerusalem so that the history of the Jews would not be lost. And he gives an accounting of the Bible.

• 33:10Danny Jones?

  When was Josephus living?

• 33:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, he lived between 080 and 180 or so.

• 33:16Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Okay, in that general time.

• 33:18Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  And he said that giants were to be measured on a royal cubit, which is 21 inches versus 18 inches, not a big difference. But if you're looking at 11 cubits with Gilgamesh, that would be 16 feet tall or 19 feet tall.

• 33:33Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 33:34Speaker 02

  Right in that, so he's going to be as a royal cubit, 19 feet tall, and he's four cubits wide, that's seven feet wide. This thing's a monster. In the Bible, we get Goliath.

• 33:48Danny Jones?

  This is in the book of Enoch?

• 33:50Speaker 02

  No.

• 33:51Danny Jones?

  Oh.

• 33:52Speaker 02

  When you're talking about Gilgamesh?

• 33:54Danny Jones?

  We, oh, this is in the Sumerian texts?

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, when I was talking about Gilgamesh, that would be in the Sumerian texts. And it's also in the Ugaritic texts.

• 34:01Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 34:01Speaker 02

  Which is not in Sumer. It's actually between Tir on the Mediterranean coast and Mount Hermon in the north.

• 34:07Danny Jones?

  Are there any texts that aren't religious that talk about these giant people?

• 34:11Speaker 02

  Well, you do have Josephus who talks about them, but he is a Pharisee, but he's recording the history.

• 34:19Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 34:19Speaker 02

  So the history is being recorded by the elite, which are mostly the religious class throughout history. So it's hard to. Separate the two.

• 34:29Danny Jones?

  Sure.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  But they did use a technique called humorism in the Greeks, and it's how they would just extract the history out of the mythology, because everything before written history was done in an oral tradition, so it would be done in a narrative, right? So that's what they.

• 34:47Danny Jones?

  Everyone was literate.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, so till about the time of Herodotus, who's kind of the first historian of record. Everything are kind of fables, and it's really harder to know what the complete details are, but if you talk to the Greeks, it's still their history. They would be offended if you said it wasn't. But to what degree? You have to be an adept of polytheism to pull that out. That's where they're taught how to decode things out of that language in terms of the imagery, locations, and allegories. So in the getting back to the size, we get a biblical giant with Goliath, which is a thousand years, more than a thousand years after the flood in the biblical record, in the secular record,

• 35:32Speaker 02

  where they place the flood about 2950 to 3050 versus the biblical record of 2350, about 600 years difference. This is a long time after the flood.

• 35:43Danny Jones?

  You're talking about the younger Drius?

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Well, the younger Drius is more like 10,000 B.C.

• 35:48Danny Jones?

  Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 35:49Speaker 02

  Right, okay.

• 35:50Danny Jones?

  29.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, we can, we can get to those relationships down the road if you'd like. So, um, so when we have Goliath, that is that far after the flood, and he is still being recorded at six cubits and a span in the Bible, using a royal cubit, as Josephus guides us to, and the king of Gath, that I think Ashish replaces, because Goliath is killed in the Bible story by David. He is going to be 11 feet, 3 inches tall. And he's called stout, so he's extremely wide as well, and/or 8 feet, 9 inches using a standard cubit. No matter how you get that, that's huge.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  Giants are thought, from a monotheist perspective, to have, for the most part, at least the giants in the covenant land versus outside the land like Gilgamesh. Are going to have a height to width ratio of two to one, so very stocky. So biblically, in the King James Version, it uses the word stout to describe them, not fat, muscular. These are creations of war, ambidextrous, fast, hard to kill, ability to heal themselves, and monstrous, right? And so, we have another record with King Og, who's called the last of the giants. Hebrew word, there's Raphael versus Nephilim, Raphael being more giants

• 37:18Speaker 02

  described after the flood versus before the flood, so a distinction, and I think because they're smaller, because we don't get to the same size of 20 to 40 feet tall in post Elouvian accounts. Orontes, that the Greeks and the Romans recorded, and who the name Orontes River in Asia Minor is named after, he was the same size as Gilgamesh. So two recorded in records in multiple locations of the giant being of the same size. But with Og, we don't get his size, we get his bed. And it is nine cubits long and four

• 37:58Speaker 02

  cubits wide and made of iron, because the weight would crush wood. So that's going to make him as king of Astaroth and Edrai and Yogurt, king of Yogurt with Og or Ugg being in there for the first syllable of Arit, which is Hebrew or Semitic for a terrible one. So Og the terrible one, full term would be Curiath Ugg Arit, or city of Og the terrible one, as you would translate that out of Old Semitic or Old Hebrew. Og is a king, so he's going to be measured on A royal cubit. And so that's going to make him, his bed about 16 feet long, just shy of it.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  And it's going to be seven feet wide. So to fit into that bed, he's going to be four or five feet wide. And he's going to be 12 to 14 or 15 feet tall. That's the range you would have to go in there. And he's the last of the Raphaim, as he's recorded three times in, in, in the Old Testament. And so he's not as big as Gilgamesh. He's also not a dark haired giant. He's a red haired giant. He's a Raphaim versus a blond haired giant that would be more Anakim or a Malakim that would be recorded in the Bible. But a smaller giant nonetheless than the Gilgamesh or the dark haired giants of whom

• 39:25Speaker 02

  the Hercules bloodline would produce dark haired giants as well. So Hercules typically described as a dark haired giant. And because he's the son of Zeus and Elkmane after the flood.

• 39:39Danny Jones?

  I didn't know Hercules was a giant. That's interesting.

• 39:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:42Danny Jones?

  I heard that he wore a dress, but I didn't hear that he was a giant.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  Well, we're just not told the hidden history. They kind of hide it. We're told he's a demigod. We're told he's a great hero with great powers. He almost becomes like a god in the afterlife in the accounting. But they understood their heroes, as they called them, were giants because they were demigods.

• 40:04Danny Jones?

  Do you believe Hercules was real?

• 40:07Speaker 02

  Well, I believe it's.

• 40:08Danny Jones?

  Historical?

• 40:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have no reason not to believe it. I have giants being recorded all around the world, done in the same way as described. And we have a bloodline of the Hercules through the Zeus gens, which they call the Cretagen's of Hercules kings that ruled after the flood, whom royals take genealogies back to, to this day. So whether or not it's true or not, the people who believe they're descendants of the giants, believe it. And what they do with that belief system is what we need to be concerned about. But from a Christian perspective, we get confirmation of these stories outside of

• 40:48Speaker 02

  the Bible, from within the Bible to know this has to be real.

• 40:54Danny Jones?

  What confirmation do we get outside of the Bible?

• 40:56Speaker 02

  Of?

• 40:58Danny Jones?

  Of the stuff you're saying?

• 40:59Speaker 02

  Well, King Og is a giant.

• 41:02Danny Jones?

  Who?

• 41:03Speaker 02

  King Og is a giant. He's a Raphaim giant. Goliath is a giant created in the same way as the Ugaritic texts.

• 41:13Danny Jones?

  But I'm saying like, what, where do we get that from outside of the Bible, extra biblically?

• 41:18Speaker 02

  That these are giants?

• 41:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Okay, well, let's go to Gilgamesh's description in the Epic of Gilgamesh. He's 19 feet tall.

• 41:27Danny Jones?

  Okay, okay.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  I mean, that's kind of self-explanatory, right?

• 41:31Danny Jones?

  Where else besides the Epic of Gilgamesh?

• 41:33Speaker 02

  Ugaritic texts is recorded as 19 feet tall.

• 41:36Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 41:36Speaker 02

  In the Ugaritic texts, Baal and the Baalim council of gods are going to create giants, Raphaim giants described as giants by its definition.

• 41:48Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 41:48Speaker 02

  There are also healers, which Rapha can also mean, and their disembodied spirits are also Rapha as well, three Rapha words in Hebrew and Semitic that the Ugaritic text was written in.

• 42:00Danny Jones?

  Yeah, a lot of these, a lot of these different ancient religious texts seem to corroborate each other with, with different figures. I know there's like 14 different figures of Noah, or not Noah, Moses. There's like 14 different versions of Moses. There's like leper versions of Moses, you know, the flood myth, the giants and all that stuff. It's very interesting how, and, and even a lot of the, like the ritualistic things that happened like Easter, there's lots of different versions of ancient Easter before the real Easter and a lot of the gods are the same.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  Do you know why that is with Easter?

• 42:32Danny Jones?

  Somebody told me this, but I can't remember it.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  So the mother goddess that I talked about for the parent god El is Astroth. Astroth is the source word for Easter. It's just a transliteration or Astart or Istart. They're all transliterations of the same name. So when we get Easter that shows up in the King James Version Bible in Acts 12, four, that should not be there. It should be Passover, but it's been translated as Easter. And that's how we get the name for the Easter celebration. But it was a polytheist ritual before that.

• 43:08Danny Jones?

  Yes, exactly. Right. Yeah, there's lots of things that the pagans were doing that it seems like the, when they wrote the Bible or when they created Christianity, they kind of like borrowed from a lot of that stuff, condensed it into one thing.

• 43:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, so when we're talking about corroboration, we're seeing the same stories done in the same way. It is inexplicable, mathematically not probable in any sort of way, and I'm being generous, that you could have these same anti-Diluvian stories and post-Diluvian stories all around the world.

• 43:45Danny Jones?

  It's very interesting.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  That what and

• 43:48Danny Jones?

  And we have scientific evidence that there was some sort of a flood on this earth. Yeah, there's lots of geologists that talk about this stuff.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  And that these cultures never communicated, but yet.

• 43:58Danny Jones?

  They were all building pyramids.

• 43:59Speaker 02

  They're all building from the same engineering knowledge to build the same types of buildings. They have the same story of how things come about on the earth.

• 44:10Danny Jones?

  But certainly very interesting.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not possible. And when I say all continents, we don't know about Antarctica, but I'm willing to speculate that once we know what's down there in Antarctica, it's going to reconfirm everything else around the world because that's the MO. That's the information that we get. The information we get has been held within the cultures and religions all around the world because they wanted it never forgotten so that we might take note.

• 44:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's very interesting. My friend Jason Giorgiani believes that Atlantis was in Antarctica.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, some people believe it got there through some sort of surface shift.

• 44:52Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 44:52Speaker 02

  But I will say this, we don't know where Atlantis is, although Plato gives the most accurate descriptions in Timaeus and Cretaeus that places it out beyond the pillars of Hercules, beyond Spain and Morocco for the general location.

• 45:08Danny Jones?

  Randall Carlson thinks it's the Azores.

• 45:10Speaker 02

  Could be the Azores as well. And we don't know whether or not. The conflagration of events of catastrophes caused a caused a crust shift to send it down there. We don't know that. But what we do know is that Atlantis is telling the same story. That's the flood story, but with additional catastrophes that come along with it, like the three stars of the Pleiades and other things. That's also we can make references to biblically. But the story told through the offspring gods is Poseidon is the god who through Cleto is going to create 10 demigod kings to rule over the 10 empires of Atlantis.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  And that these giants at first ruled judiciously, but then the human format starts to take over and makes them become evil. And then they start creating these wars and they're trying to take over the world. And so Atlantis is telling the same story as Genesis 6. And it's this catastrophe that comes along because the earth has been absolutely corrupted in ways that we can't yet imagine because we're just catching up to that technology today. And so in the flood stories, the Hebrew word corrupted, which is shakath,

• 46:31Speaker 02

  which means to pervert, to ruin, to decay, to pollute, to destroy. And all flesh is corrupted and everything on the earth, not the sea, but on the earth is corrupted. That's all the DNA, everything.

• 46:47Danny Jones?

  Only on the earth. It specifically says not in the sea, only on the air?

• 46:51Speaker 02

  Yes, only on the earth.

• 46:52Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 46:53Speaker 02

  And so that's what's going to be cleansed in these flood stories. And so when we're talking about corrupting all of the plant genomes, that's just not sexual copulation going on between humans and humans or gods and humans. That's implied technology like the building of the pyramids or Machu Picchu or other things all around the world that we don't have the technology to do to this day. We cannot do it in a level of the same masonry. We cannot align it to the celestial astronomical.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Things encoded into it. We can't put the sacred geometry in it. We can't put all of the Earth ratios. We can't even lift those stones into place yet. So they had a technology we're just catching up to when you combine that with the DNA manipulation and the genome manipulation. And now, when we see science that is starting to catch up to the angelic technology delivered by the gods in polytheist religions around the world, by the fallen angels in the Book of Enoch, we're just catching up to chimera technology that they've named after the Greek history of DNA manipulation and putting multiple parts on.

• 48:08Danny Jones?

  And we have foreign governments all over the world, including our own, illegally developing chimera virus weapons, where they're literally creating, they're manipulating the DNA of the bubonic plague virus and combining it with other viruses, trying to combine things like rabies and make it to where it's transmissible through the air, not just by touch. And what, you know, talking about like viruses that are 100% death ratio and, you know, genetically just modifying these killer viruses in the, you know, for the prospect of war and global domination. I mean, it's the most, I mean, that's to me is more terrifying

• 48:51Danny Jones?

  than nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are pretty damn bad. But this is, it's on a whole nother level how evil it is.

• 48:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. And if you can do that, then what else can you do? And when we start looking at all of these chimera animals that are recorded, chimera beings in prehistory, that's where we have to sort of take up and take notice.

• 49:15Danny Jones?

  That's crazy that we're doing that now in labs and that we're just, we're disguising them as vaccine research, but we're literally creating microscopic, microscopic chimera bacteria weapons. Like it's, it's insane.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  And you can take the ability to do DNA manipulation in a thousand of different directions, some for good to get rid of diseases.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  But the knowledge is never inert. It's either going to be used for good or for evil. And we as a species have the MO of using it for evil.

• 49:52Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  That gets to be the issue with advancing technology. Knowledge isn't evil. It's how it's used. And that's, again, something we want to be very, very aware of. And that not only could you have that DNA that is designed to kill you through biological weapons, it could be just designed to change you.

• 50:16Speaker 02

  And you will become corrupted. The sin, one of the sins of before the war. I make a case in some of the shows that I do that the technology was so powerful that they could destroy the earth by fire. And it's important to understand that the flood was brought, if that's the case, and I believe that's the case, and I'm gonna throw a couple of things out here for people to think about in a couple of minutes, is that God brings the flood to prevent the world being destroyed in wars and destroyed by fire that is reserved for the end time as to Peter 3 records. Fire of destruction reserved for the end time. And it has a whole bunch of...

• 51:01Danny Jones?

  You're trying to put out a fire?

• 51:02Speaker 02

  No, he's putting out a fire with a flood, I suppose, and having a restart, but he doesn't want the earth destroyed by fire. That's reserved for the ordained times, the end time. And so in the polytheist polychronicon used by Gnostics and secret societies, so as their ancient oral tradition, a fellow by the name of Enoch, son of Cain, versus Enoch, son of Jared. Biblically, there's two Enoch's. We need to keep that in mind. Enoch, son of Cain, is going to develop the seven, the knowledge he learns from Cain into seven sacred sciences and then form the mystical religions. I call it Anokian mysticism. We would know it more worldwide as Zoroastrianism, before the flood and also after the flood.

• 51:46Speaker 02

  And so this knowledge is going to be kept in secret because of they're developing it into different sciences. So Enoch, son of Cain, splits them into the seven sciences that we would recognize as the seven liberal arts today. Okay, and then it merges with his knowledge from the gods. And so they know from the polytheist side that destruction is going to be coming in the time of Enoch. And they don't know whether it's going to be flood or fire, because in both in polytheist and monotheist accounts, as I've been describing in the Bible of fire and flood, that's the same understanding in polytheism that in times of, that's why I mentioned earlier, there could be earlier floods in an older sort of time period.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  That these happen in cycles. One is a destruction of flood, and then the next one will be a destruction by fire. For some reason, they weren't sure what was coming this time, so they decided that they would put all of the knowledge, and as it turns out, I think more accurately, it's more the location to all of the knowledge that was accumulated before the flood in a certain location, or multiple locations, as you get other stories lending into that narrative. But the Gnostic Masonic tradition is that two pillars are created to show the location to where it's buried, under the pyramid, the Great Pyramid. That's again, in their tradition, is built before the flood, not after the flood, as

• 53:15Speaker 02

  Egyptologist accountings are, but before the flood.

• 53:19Danny Jones?

  We have no way to prove exactly when it was built, right?

• 53:22Speaker 02

  Well, we have a Stella of Marna, of Many's, I mean Stella of Many's or Narma, both is called the same name. And we have that as a record. In the background with that parchment in Stella is the 52 and a half degree Great Pyramid. And that's dated to 3000 B.C. So we have something that depicts it, that's older than 23 to 2400. When Kefir Kufu either, or both renovated it versus likely built it.

• 53:54Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 53:55Speaker 02

  So yes, we do have some, it's meager, I agree, but again, we have these buildings that all of the people who... Say, who lived there, say that they didn't build them anywhere in their history. Their people say it was built before their civilization was there. So they predate the civilizations that secular history would accredit them building it to without an explanation where or how they had the knowledge to do that, of course. So, we do have that hidden history that's recorded around the world that we tend to, you know, put over here because it's an out of place oopart, so to speak. An out of place artifact.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  Doesn't fit the narrative, so we'll just, we'll pretend it doesn't exist. So, when we look at, um, these two pillars that are going to show where this knowledge is buried, they build one that is designed to survive a destruction by fire. And one is designed to survive a flood. So obviously, it's the one by destruction by flood that comes, that is found because Hermes, in their account, or Harmine is the name that they use transliteration for Hermes, finds that and takes that, and this is not the biblical account, this is the Gnostic secret society account from the Polychronicon in the history of Freemasonry.

• 55:20Speaker 02

  Takes this knowledge to Nimrod to build Babel Tower 100 years after the flood. And where the knowledge comes to build it. And that he is accredited as the first grand master of masonry after the flood, who writes the first constitution. And he's developing the same religion that's given to him by Hermes as well, but the same knowledge. And biblically, we're told about this tower that acting as one people, in one language, anything they decide they want to do, they're going to be able to do. And so the tower is destroyed. So when we look at the accountings of the flood,

• 56:01Speaker 02

  we're getting accountings of technology we don't have yet today. What's really interesting is about the ziggurat, and I understand ziggurat or tower and pyramid, were understood as the same type of buildings in antiquity, used for the same purposes.

• 56:20Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 56:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, so in the Akkadian version of Babel, they use the term Babalu with the ILU versus the EL. And ILU is the Akkadian Mesopotamian transliteration of EL, meaning a god. And so they translate that second syllable as god or gods. And Bab isn't, as in Babel, as we know as confusion of languages in Hebrew, isn't translated that way. Bab is translated as a portal or a stargate. So now you have a portal or a stargate of the gods, as it's translated out of the Akkadian and Sumerian versions. You'd have a similar sort of translation at the Tower of Aradu,

• 57:07Speaker 02

  which is the Sumerian account of the Tower of Babel. And we have a tower that has the description of being built with mud bricks that could somehow go into heaven. Well, you cannot build mud bricks that can go interdimensionally into heaven where God lives. In polytheist accounts and in some apocrypha, you have Nimrod doing these speeches that if God ever gets out of line, and I'm using Jubilees and the Book of Yasher here for these accounts, and Josephus, he is saying if God ever gets out of line, he's going to go into heaven and kill him.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  If he ever tries to bring another flood, he's rebelling, right? And so he's either a madman, or there's something more going on here. And pyramids and ziggurats were thought to be built as places on great energy lines. Where power was funneled into for a purpose that we still don't understand. And we could speculate a thousand different ways. But this understanding of a portal now says interdimensional technology. So Nimrod is understood from a monotheist perspective as an Antichrist archetype,

• 58:31Speaker 02

  who introduces a universal Babel religion, a polytheist religion that's Zoroastrianism or Inokian mysticism from before the flood. He's going to do what Antichrist has prophesied to do in Daniel 8:10, to go into heaven in the time of Revelation 12, same timeframe on these, as you link up the topology there, as the war in heaven in Revelation 12. He's going to go with Satan into heaven, and he's going to throw down some of the starry hosts and trample on them. That's what Nimrod is trying to do, which is why he's an Antichrist archetype.

• 59:10Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 59:10Speaker 02

  And if you have that ability, you could go into another dimension, which is, we would understand as the other world. We would understand it as Hades. We would understand that as Sheol. We would understand that as Arqata. We would understand that of a thousand different names all around the world for the same places in all religions all around the world, where the pit prison is recorded, where the fallen angels and the worst of the giants were sent to for doing horrible things to humankind. So he is introducing this religion of the fallen angels. He's created, he's adopting a religion where the Raphaim,

• 59:54Speaker 02

  who he is gaining his reputation against, as a Septuagint describes, Nimrod gaining his reputation against the giants after the flood.

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  He's introducing that religion and the Raphaim giants are created by the Baalim council in the Ugaritic texts.

• 1:00:11Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  Okay, this is the same council of gods that rules the world. Zeus is the same as Osiris, as is Baal is the same god, as Anki is the same god. It's just a different name for the same pantheon in a different civilization.

• 1:00:31Danny Jones?

  Sure.

• 1:00:31Speaker 02

  Okay, and they have the same positions, do the same things. And if you understand that, then you again are attaining an ability to understand our history a little bit better, or where we're going. So with this understanding, then, I talked about the parent gods being killed and sent to a pit prison. Biblically, they're sent there for violating the laws of creation, for creating the giants and other violations against the Holy Spirit. Altering physical life, like DNA manipulation. Okay, they are sent to the pit prison for that, they're not killed. They're going to be dealt with in the end time that we also talked about earlier that Revelation is talking about.

• 1:01:15Speaker 02

  These are the ones that come out in Revelation 9. After the flood, the parent gods take over, they just move right up. Baal is living before the flood, yes, but he's not chief god, El is.

• 1:01:27Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:01:27Speaker 02

  Osiris isn't the chief god before the flood, Ra is, or Amun, but Osiris steps up after the flood. And they produce giants and do the same crimes as what was done before the flood. So we get that recorded biblically in Jude 1:6, 1 Peter 3, and 2 Peter 2. Same crimes after the flood by fallen angels and talking about the pit prison. Now, the pit prison is talked about in all religions around the world, we know it as Tartarus.

• 1:01:57Danny Jones?

  The pit prison?

• 1:01:58Speaker 02

  The pit prison, the abyss prison, the Tartarus prison.

• 1:02:01Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  In Greek mythology. Um, to give one sort of example, in the Gnostic Gospel Episcopals of Sophia, actually shows these 12 archons with different heads, like bears, like lions, like eagles, like dragons, like serpents and more, like apes of these 12 archons before the flood that committed the same crimes. And I'm telling you that Baal, for example, of the Ugaritic text disappears. He's killed. Zeus disappears. They committed the same crime. Zeus created giants. Baal created giants. Anki created giants. All of the ones who did the same crimes in the same way as the parent gods, they go to the pit prison as

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  well. They're not killed like Baal is said to be killed. They're supernatural beings. They cannot be killed. If they can be killed, only the God Most High could do that.

• 1:02:54Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:02:55Speaker 02

  Right? So they're sent to the pit prison. And so Nimrod is introducing that religion to all of humanity 100 years after the flood, which is why the flood was brought and is developing that same knowledge. And so you have the dispersion. So when we look at the stories that we're being told about is there's this constant history that gives a larger context to the story if we let it be told. And it's a warning to us that we are going to go through the same cycle as what has been going on before.

• 1:03:37Danny Jones?

  It's a pattern.

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is. And biblically, in Ecclesiastes 1, it said, "Nothing is new under the sun. What was will be again." And the understanding of this only brings grief and sorrow. So when Jesus said it's going to be like the days of Noah.

• 1:03:55Speaker 02

  And then in the Luca account, he says it's going to be like the days of Noah and what at Sodom and Gomorrah, at the creation site of giants, according to the Gnostics, after the flood. We should stand up and take notice that if the end time is going to be like the days of Noah, we better learn more about what happened in prehistory if we want to understand what's about to come upon us.

• 1:04:21Danny Jones?

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• 1:05:50Danny Jones?

  and they all have different takes. They all disagree on everything about what the past is, and that's because we're all relying on this two-dimensional history. Like, we don't have, we don't have all, like, all kinds of sciences. We don't have, like, archaeology, we don't have, you know, stuff to corroborate, and we don't have, it's not interdisciplinary, right? We rely, we rely, we take these texts and then we rely on the human mind to tell a story and paint a narrative of the past. And everyone has their own flavor of the past.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I think- The value of understanding the global history is we can put the common denominators together and say, that makes sense, that that is the same details in all those disparate accounts. There has to be truth there. At least a certain amount of truth, whatever level one wants to accept on that, but those are common denominators.

• 1:06:45Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:06:46Speaker 02

  And you can't explain that rationally, that those common denominators ought to be there. And they warn about the same future. Polytheist history has the same end time with the destruction by fire. And we might know that with the Vedas and the Upanjads of India, for one sort of polytheist example, where they have Shiva, the famous destroyer god.

• 1:07:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  This is a destroyer god that has the ability to incarnate like Vishnu does. Vishnu was the one who incarnated into Buddha to provide knowledge to start the Buddhist religion. And in the sort of global conflation of the religions, Buddha is one of these individuals that are sent on the way, as they call it, to help us evolve into godhood. Right? So he receives this knowledge. This is not possession. This is the avatar, avatara effect. The avatar is the god, the receiver, the human who already has a spirit host in their

• 1:07:54Speaker 02

  soul and their body, receives this incarnation of this supernatural being who's going to provide help. It's different than demon possession, which isn't symbiotic.

• 1:08:06Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:08:07Speaker 02

  And by a lower level of being.

• 1:08:10Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:08:11Speaker 02

  Okay, it's different. It's distinct. That's my point there. Shiva does the same thing. Shiva comes in the end time, at the end of these set periods of celestial procession, to destroy the earth by fire, which started in 2012, according to the polytheist celestial procession with the age of the water bearer, where there's destruction of fire sometime within over 2,000 years, as one of those sort of periods of time is. So we're not sure from a polytheist side when, but in that sort of period of time. And in that period of time, when Shiva comes to destroy the world by fire,

• 1:08:51Speaker 02

  Shiva incarnates into a being that would be known as a Messiah-type of figure, from a polytheist perspective. And so Shiva is recorded in those religious records of avataring at least 12 times. I think Vishnu is 18, if my memory serves me right, but I'm in the zone. And Shiva's coming back in the end time. Well, who is Shiva? This is the god that is being associated... So who is Shiva? Shiva is the god being associated with CERN today.

• 1:09:29Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah, that's wild.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  With quantum mechanics that can go interdimensionally. With AI, so you can search multiple locations. So they're doing something interdimensionally. Just let me leave that hang out there. Shiva is the one they're doing these dances to. Shiva is also a creator god. Shiva creates a world it destroys by fire, and then creates a new world to restart. So we understand this as in the Sanskrit version that I provided of the Zoroastrianism versus the Avesta version. So Sanskrit from the Indus Valley, started by the Proto-Indo-European Aryans, Iranians, giants. Just, I know I'm moving quickly here.

• 1:10:13Speaker 02

  Versus the Avesta version in Persia, which would not call this god as we understand Shiva. Shiva is called Mitra or Mithra. And Mithra is a god of Zoroastrianism. Mitra, M-I-T-R-A, without the H. H is kind of introduced into many languages behind the T as an evolution of the languages. So Mitra is understood in all of the Proto-Indo-European languages, just as CERN is. It'll come back to CERN. And so Mitra is this equivalent of Shiva. Mitra is a god who comes back in the end time as an avatar-avatar effect, who is going to incarnate into the polytheist...

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  Messiah, which we know as Lord Maitreya. Maitreya is a transliteration of Mitra. Mitra is the same religion that was in the time of Rome, at the time of the formation of Christianity. And with Constantine, Mitra is the main religion that's going to be sort of merged into Christianity with a lot of its imagery.

• 1:11:25Speaker 02

  That forms the Roman Church as we sort of understand it. And that's a political move by Constantine to unite the empire. So we should understand it in those sort of terms. So as we look at Mitra, he is an individual that is coming back in the end time to do the same thing as Shiva. Now biblically, we have a connection here with Azazel.

• 1:11:51Speaker 02

  Azazel is the scapegoat angel, leader of the watchers in the Book of Enoch.

• 1:11:56Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  We get the word Babel, not Babel, we get the word Azazel in the Bible once. It's not always translated as Azazel. In the King James Version, a second goat is sacrificed on the day of atonement. One first goat for the sins of Israel. The second goat, we're not really told what that is, and he's sacrificed differently and sent into the wilderness.

• 1:12:21Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  Scapegoat is the Hebrew word Azazel there. Uh, for the sins of the world. Azazel was the chief god, chief lieutenant of Satan. Leader of the host as he's put into the prison for his crimes because he's the one accredited with being the destroyer god of the Antediluvian world, the one who provided most of the illicit knowledge, not all, most, the most important knowledge to the people that developed all of this technology. He's the one who provided the knowledge and the arts and the crafts of war and its weaponry and its application. So to a development to a level that we're just getting to.

• 1:12:59Danny Jones?

  Satan or the other one?

• 1:13:00Speaker 02

  Azazel.

• 1:13:00Danny Jones?

  Azazel.

• 1:13:01Speaker 02

  He's the lieutenant, let's call him that. He's like, yeah, he's the chief of the seven. Seven is the typical, like the seven days of the week are named after the gods out of three different pantheons, Latin, Greek, and Norse. Okay, these are the seven wandering stars as we know biblically. These are the seven major ones, right? He is the leader of the seven satans in the book of Enoch. And he's the one that is entitled as the destroyer of the world that we see as Apollion and Abaddon as the one who comes out of the pit prison in the end time. So bear with me just a little bit longer. I like to tell stories and try and show some veracity to the things and not just your

• 1:13:46Speaker 02

  talking head. So roll this forward to secret societies and the Knights Templar. They are going to be disbanded in 1307 and they are accused of worshiping a god named Baphomet. So that is a colloquial transliteration of Papa Mitra. Coming from the original proto Indo-European Indo-Aryan Sanskrit language, Mitra's M-I-T-R-A and Bapo, B-A-P, and understanding the H's are added through that evolution of the language that I talked about. They are worshiping Bapho Mitra, meaning Father Mitra, just as Father Mitra is introduced

• 1:14:29Speaker 02

  to the father aspect in Christianity in the time of Constantine, as we talked about. And why the Catholic Church calls their priests fathers and wear black Mitra robes and things like that. And I'm not anti-Roman Catholic. I mean, we have this that has rolled through all Protestantism as well. I just understand the facts of what happened. So they're worshiping Bapho Mitra, but in the secret societies, they worship Azazel as his name. And in fact, at Rosalind Chapel, built by the adepts who founded the Templars, and in this case, the Sinclair's or the St. Clairs of the Rollo bloodline from Odin.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  They're going to build Rosalind Chapel as a taciturn imagery of their history in stone. And in there, they're going to have this angel that's hung upside down in a form of an S or a Z, because the Z could be an S or a Z as it's transliterated into different languages, with these pearls of wisdom, which is an allegory for the ancient archives of the masons, which is an allegory of the Prometheus knowledge. It's this illicit knowledge that was provided from heaven that they're worshiping. And now you start to see the connections of the same gods again, now with the leader of the watchers, as a specific individual, who is going to be coming back in the end

• 1:16:00Speaker 02

  time to incarnate into Antichrist.

• 1:16:03Danny Jones?

  So they're worshiping Prometheus?

• 1:16:05Speaker 02

  In the allegorical sense, they are there. And I'll explain that.

• 1:16:11Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  So in the secret societies, they'll use Freemasonry as a modern version of one of the offshoot organizations after the fall of the Knights Templar.

• 1:16:22Danny Jones?

  I don't understand the big hubba-bloo about Freemasons. They seem just like normal, everyday people who are part of a club. Like, what's so, why are people so fascinated by the Freemasons?

• 1:16:30Speaker 02

  I'll come back to that in just a second. So in there, they're going to worship an allegory trinity. And we understand that, I'll leave out the mother goddess name, just to be safe.

• 1:16:46Danny Jones?

  You can say it, it's okay.

• 1:16:48Speaker 02

  Are you sure? Okay, I just don't want...

• 1:16:50Danny Jones?

  No, you won't get us in trouble, don't worry.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:16:53Danny Jones?

  We said way worse on this show, I promise.

• 1:16:54Speaker 02

  It's the name of a terrorist group, and anytime I say it, yeah.

• 1:16:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, we can say it, it's okay. We say ISIS all the time here.

• 1:16:59Speaker 02

  You don't get the same viewership out of YouTube as all, so if you're...

• 1:17:02Danny Jones?

  Oh, we will, they've given up on us.

• 1:17:05Speaker 02

  Oh, they have, terrific. So, they use as their trinity, as their allegory, Isis, Osiris, and Horus, and Horus being the sun. Horus is that imagery that we see with Mary and the baby Jesus, that's the Egyptian imagery that's been embedded into Christianity. And that, they are allegories for the original ones, because these are offspring gods. They're not even an allegory for the parent gods.

• 1:17:35Speaker 02

  This is for the original. This is for the original, as we know it, in Gnosticism as Sophia and, and, and as Satan, or this nebulous life force, as the Gnostics like to refer to him as.

• 1:17:49Danny Jones?

  Uh huh.

• 1:17:50Speaker 02

  And so, this is the, the absolute two chief gods and their offspring, who becomes like Jesus in that sort of imagery. So, in the tripartite nature in Christianity, you have the, the understanding of El-Eliyon or El Shaddai, Elohim in the plural, used for him in particular, is the father, or Abba, as Jesus called him in, in the Bible. And you have Ruach of the Elohim, or Numa in the Greek, which is Ruach, as in the Holy Spirit, or the Spirit of God in Genesis 1. Sorry, I have imageries that are going through my head as I speak, so my hands start to move.

• 1:18:33Speaker 02

  So, that's the Spirit of God. And then you have Jehovah of the Elohim, who's going to become flesh in Jesus. And we get that known as the Word of God in the Bible, which is the Logos, or Word, of the God, Teos, in Greek. It's the same individual. He becomes as the Word, the one who created God, when God commands him to do so, creates all things. He's the Son. So, you have a polytheist, tripartite nature, also recorded in the, in, in the subcontinent of India's religions, also in the Bible. And you also have these two individuals clashing in the end time.

• 1:19:18Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:19:19Speaker 02

  And if you now look at what's going on with Islam, through the Hadiths, not the Quran, I want to make that as a significant distinction here. There are different Hadiths for, that are used within different sections, like the Shia, or the Sunni, or the polytheist Sufis.

• 1:19:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:39Speaker 02

  Which are associated with the Templars, by the way.

• 1:19:40Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 1:19:41Speaker 02

  They're going to use, um...

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  A different Hadith to describe their Mokta that's going to come in the end time. And actually, the Mokta is going to fight against the other Mokta. And then that one's going to be the one who succeeds to become that that sort of leader. So I just want to make sort of the understanding that this is not an unknown, isolated accounting of what we want to be aware of. And there's going to be many Antichrists. But I wanted to get back to what you had said. Well, what's so special about the secret societies and Freemasons?

• 1:20:18Danny Jones?

  No, not necessarily. So, okay.

• 1:20:22Danny Jones?

  I've met a lot of people who are Freemasons. They call themselves Freemasons.

• 1:20:25Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:20:28Danny Jones?

  I don't think they're part of any secret societies. I think they're just trying, you know, they're just, you know, they think it'd be cool to be like, I could call myself a Freemason. You know what I mean? Like,

• 1:20:37Speaker 02

  Did you ask them what level they were?

• 1:20:41Speaker 02

  They were a

• 1:20:42Danny Jones?

  None of them, I don't, I don't think any of them are 33 degree. I had one guy on here who was a Templar.

• 1:20:47Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:20:49Danny Jones?

  Very high level Templar.

• 1:20:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:51Danny Jones?

  Again, very nice guy, you know, writes books, does podcasts. I don't think he was sacrificing any, any babies or kissing the head of Baphomet.

• 1:20:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:58Danny Jones?

  You know, he did say he knew where the bones of Christ were buried. And he also said that he has, he knows exactly where the, the Ark of the Covenant is.

• 1:21:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. And in their lore, they definitely make clear they have those types of things that they're going to make available

• 1:21:13Danny Jones?

  Uh huh.

• 1:21:14Speaker 02

  In the end time or at the right time. So when we look at

• 1:21:18Danny Jones?

  Did you know they had the head of Mary, the skull of Mary in a museum?

• 1:21:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. So what?

• 1:21:25Danny Jones?

  Do you think that's real?

• 1:21:26Speaker 02

  Hard to know, hard to, hard to track the

• 1:21:29Danny Jones?

  It's in this crazy like space helmet looking thing. It's very terrifying.

• 1:21:33Speaker 02

  And the ossuary that they would have, the so-called bones of Jesus that they make the claim for. It's in the form of two bones like this, as you put it in the ossuary and the head on top. If that sounds familiar, that's the Templar flag of the skull and crossbones on the pirate ships, which was their fleet after the, the taking down of the Templars, the Navy escaped. And the Skull and Bones Society in the Ivy Leagues in the US.

• 1:22:05Danny Jones?

  The

• 1:22:05Speaker 02

  Which is an Illuminati group.

• 1:22:07Danny Jones?

  The skull and crossbones that are on traditional pirate flags.

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:11Danny Jones?

  Came from that?

• 1:22:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's their symbol of.

• 1:22:13Danny Jones?

  From Jesus's bones?

• 1:22:14Speaker 02

  That's, yeah. They, they would spit on the bones, or the spit on the cross as image of not accepting Jesus as, as the Messiah.

• 1:22:22Danny Jones?

  The Templars.

• 1:22:23Speaker 02

  The Templars.

• 1:22:24Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:22:24Speaker 02

  They believe that they have history and genealogies that proves Jesus didn't die on the cross.

• 1:22:33Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:22:34Speaker 02

  Yes. And that.

• 1:22:36Danny Jones?

  What do they think happened to him?

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  Well, they believe a fellow by the name of Joseph of Arimathea took him down from the cross before he died, and then had him nursed back to health. And he had previously married, I document all of this in book one on.

• 1:22:55Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:22:56Speaker 02

  What they plan to do for the end time on this. And they say they have proof to do it. We'll see what they, what they come out with.

• 1:23:03Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  If, if they actually do. But he's taken to Mary Magdalene, who, who they said was married at Bethany, in their accounting, where Mary annoys Jesus at Bethany. They said that's where the marriage took place. And then he has three children with Mary after the crucifixion, because he doesn't die.

• 1:23:19Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:23:20Speaker 02

  And they moved to Southern France, where the Holy Blood and Holy Grail detective work of the eighties sort of comes into play there.

• 1:23:29Danny Jones?

  Why do they believe this?

• 1:23:31Speaker 02

  Well, they believe, because they say they have records on this.

• 1:23:34Danny Jones?

  They, but they've, no one's ever seen the records?

• 1:23:35Speaker 02

  Well, they, yeah, just within the adept.

• 1:23:37Danny Jones?

  We have records, but you guys aren't.

• 1:23:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what adepts do.

• 1:23:40Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:23:41Speaker 02

  And I'll try and get there.

• 1:23:43Danny Jones?

  Right, right. Like Scientology. We'll show you, we'll teach you about Xenu once you.

• 1:23:48Speaker 02

  Same concept.

• 1:23:49Danny Jones?

  Find the ladder.

• 1:23:49Speaker 02

  Same concept.

• 1:23:50Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:23:51Speaker 02

  Absolutely. And so, one son survives to produce children.

• 1:24:00Speaker 02

  And that fellow, his name is Josephes, and he's taken by Joseph of Arimathea to Glastonbury as the Grail child. So the Grail is an allegory for the bloodline. There's a Songraal, which is the Chalice, and Songraal, which is royal blood and royal bloodline. So he's going to marry into the Camulot dynasties, right? With that bloodline of Mary Magdalene and Jesus, that through Aragyn is going to marry into Aminabad of the Merovingian dynasty. And they're going to track that genealogy all the way through into the three major funders

• 1:24:45Speaker 02

  and adepts of the Knights Templar with the founding, and I'll name them as Godfrey de Boullion, which people are familiar with, Henri de Payon, and the other one would be the Fauque d'Anjou. And they're all Anjous out of the Lorraine region of France. And they're going to be the ones who take Jerusalem and set up the kings of Jerusalem title. And the Fauque d'Anjou is going to be the first official king of Jerusalem in 1118 when he's crowned. Baldwin is king, but only for a year. He dies, his brother takes over, but isn't officially crowned with this title. But they're Anjou, and they're tracking the bloodline of Jesus through that bloodline,

• 1:25:29Speaker 02

  through the Anjou, and then an intermarriage into other royal families. And they're also going to graft in their other Davidic bloodlines as well as Benjamite bloodlines, and that's important to them through the Benjanite, through Mary Magdalene in their records, and through Benjamites that migrate up the Danube River and then into the Sicilian Franks where the Merovingians come from, to track that other biblical bloodline because it's important as it comes to Jerusalem. Because in the book of Joshua...

• 1:26:06Speaker 02

  He is going to give Jerusalem to the Benjamites as their inheritance. So they've got Sion bloodlines that go back to David, to Jesus, and to King Saul. And as part of the King of Jerusalem title, that Antichrist will declare through that right of inheritance, when he crowns himself in the temple in the end time.

• 1:26:29Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 1:26:29Speaker 02

  So they've been sort of planning all of that. So as we understand this all coming together through who, why it's important to understand the connection between Freemasonry and Masonry and royals and giants is because to become an adept, you have to be of the bloodlines, of the gensas.

• 1:26:49Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  So if you're a Freemason, that's below 32nd degree in the Scottish Rite, you know nothing. You're still considered, like us, mundane.

• 1:26:59Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 1:26:59Speaker 02

  Not worthy. You have to be an adept at 33rd degree to have every preconceived understanding you ever had overturned, kind of like what they're preparing us for with the revelations coming out of Antarctica, or with the alien disclosures.

• 1:27:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I'm not buying it.

• 1:27:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, same sort of concept here. Yeah, all the same language. And if, the old system is the third degree. So Scottish Rite, 33rd degree, split up 11 ways from the original old third degree, first level adept. We don't know how many levels they are, but originally, they, if they ever gave out the secrets at the adept level, you'd be punished by death.

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  I think a lot of secrets have come out and they don't tend to look fondly of it, but I can't say today they're still killing people.

• 1:27:48Danny Jones?

  Well, it's interesting, all the founding fathers of America were Freemasons, you know?

• 1:27:51Speaker 02

  It's no coincidence.

• 1:27:52Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:53Speaker 02

  I mean, the US was created to bring about the end time. Right, and

• 1:28:00Danny Jones?

  They thought this, they said, we're gonna create the US to bring about the

• 1:28:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, they knew about, the Templars and the Sinclair's And Freemasonry knew about North America before it was discovered. Why? Because the adepts of the Templar Army, running the ships, like the commanders, right? They were already traveling there. And in Scotland, with the Sinclair's, they have a tradition, after the fall of the Templars, of going over to Oak Island, for example.

• 1:28:37Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:28:38Speaker 02

  Okay, so they already knew about that. And in their tradition, Columbus receives the knowledge on how to get to the New World using the winds and the time of the year to get there and back. And on the Santa Maria, he threw the Templar flag.

• 1:28:55Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:28:56Speaker 02

  That's where he got his knowledge from.

• 1:28:57Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:28:58Speaker 02

  So they knew about that.

• 1:29:00Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:01Speaker 02

  And as they move forward, I don't know whether the Templar that you're talking to, but you ever talked to another Templar, ask them where they moved all of the treasures from Oak Island to. If he tells you the truth, he's likely going to tell you, we made treaties with the chief, bloodline chiefs of all the First Nations, or the important ones, but enough where you could take all of these treasures and knowledge and put them on reserves beyond the oversight of a secular government.

• 1:29:34Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 1:29:36Speaker 02

  That's where they say the knowledge in, that you're referring to, do they have records on it? Where would it be? It's in safe places, and they had to continually move that knowledge and and move it to separate locations in fear of it being discovered. That's, whether that's true or not, That's only what a Templar that I listened to told me.

• 1:29:58Danny Jones?

  Okay. All right. So explain to me how you came up with this theory that, or idea, that you lay out in your book, that you believe that there are modern day descendants of the Nephilim that are controlling and engineering society.

• 1:30:15Speaker 02

  So we have King Charles III. They tell you this. You just don't understand the language they're talking in. So when he was crowned king, he was crowned king twice, right? After Queen Elizabeth dies in the fall, and then usually they like to do their official inheritance rite in June. That's the month they would like to do it. When they started the kings of heaven in Jerusalem, same thing. Feshel was this pageantry, not at the Priory of Sion on Mount Ermun, but in Bethlehem at the Notre Dame Cathedral is where they would crown their kings of Jerusalem at. So sometime after. So always Feshel and then the ritual

• 1:30:57Speaker 02

  rite, because it's a polytheist. And they swear to a god and have ever since the flood. And we presume this is an anti-Diluvian rite, because it's an ancient rite of all of the giant kings going before them. And they swear their oath to a specific god. So when King Charles swore an oath, he may not have been swearing to the God of the Bible, as most people think.

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• 1:31:54Speaker 02

  He will swear an oath back to his genealogical celestial mafia godfather.

• 1:31:59Danny Jones?

  Who's that?

• 1:32:00Speaker 02

  As I like to call him. I don't know which one it is.

• 1:32:02Danny Jones?

  His genealog- say that one more time.

• 1:32:04Speaker 02

  It's a term and a half.

• 1:32:05Danny Jones?

  His genealogical celestial what?

• 1:32:08Speaker 02

  Mafia godfather.

• 1:32:08Danny Jones?

  Mafia godfather?

• 1:32:10Speaker 02

  Yes. Polytheism is an initiatory organization.

• 1:32:15Danny Jones?

  Polytheism is an initiatory organization?

• 1:32:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, and religion. Becoming adept in polytheism.

• 1:32:22Danny Jones?

  I thought polytheism just meant you don't subscribe to one exclusive god.

• 1:32:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, you worship multiple gods, but it's an organized religion.

• 1:32:29Danny Jones?

  It's a monolith?

• 1:32:31Speaker 02

  No, they have multiple gods that they worship.

• 1:32:35Danny Jones?

  Right, but you're making it sound like it's one big organization called Poly- like the way you speak about it. You say it's like a big organization called polytheism.

• 1:32:41Speaker 02

  It is. It's like understanding Christianity and all the different denominations.

• 1:32:49Speaker 02

  So the religion of the Druids.

• 1:32:51Danny Jones?

  What?

• 1:32:52Speaker 02

  Is the same as the religion of Egypt. The religion of Egypt is the same religion as Greece, as the same religion of Sumer, as the same religion. They just have different names for the gods and some different sort of local additions to the rituals, but the core adept rituals are all the same. And they understand them as the same. And in Freemasonry and Masonry, more accurately at the adept level, they recognize the priests and the gods as all being the same. The Druid priests are the same as the Greek philosophers in terms of practicing a polytheist religion to the pantheon of gods,

• 1:33:31Speaker 02

  as the same as the Brahmins, as the same as the Egyptian priests. They are the same organizational type, a different group, but worshiping the same root religion that goes back to Enoch, son of Cain.

• 1:33:50Speaker 02

  Freemasonry honors Enoch, son of Cain, as their prime patriarch.

• 1:33:55Danny Jones?

  What was the religion of some of like the biggest intellects in Greek antiquity? Like Plato and Socrates and all these people?

• 1:34:04Speaker 02

  Sophus.

• 1:34:04Danny Jones?

  Socrates was killed for bringing in new gods, right?

• 1:34:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. You would have rival different names. They're the same gods.

• 1:34:15Speaker 02

  Osiris is the same as Zeus, right? And if you have another name for Zeus within Macedon or somewhere else, it's still the same god if he's the chief god.

• 1:34:24Danny Jones?

  So all these, all of these ancient Greek philosophers and, and all these, all these people that, you know, the biggest intellects in human history are, were polytheists.

• 1:34:36Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:34:36Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:34:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:38Danny Jones?

  Seems like, seems like a good thing.

• 1:34:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:39Danny Jones?

  Like a great thing.

• 1:34:41Speaker 02

  Look at the pan god as an example.

• 1:34:43Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:34:43Speaker 02

  Um, you know, you have Bacchus, you have

• 1:34:46Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:46Speaker 02

  Inus, you have multiple names.

• 1:34:48Danny Jones?

  Bacchus is the god of wine and partying, right?

• 1:34:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, which again is a typical aspect of a satyr god, a satyr god, a goat god. Right? That's what pan is. That's what Baphomet is described as. That's what Azazel is described as.

• 1:35:03Danny Jones?

  I thought Baphomet was a cow or a bull.

• 1:35:05Speaker 02

  Horned.

• 1:35:06Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:35:07Speaker 02

  Horned, but in a goat sense. And a bull cult is part of polytheism, as the sun cult is. Different imagery with a different meaning. So you have like Odin as a, as a horn god. You have Cernunnos as a horn god in the Druidans, also known as heron. You also have Bacchus, that's a horn god in the Latin pantheon, the Proto Latin, Etruscan, Proto Indo-European. That name would be C E R N, pronounced Cern or Kern. And it comes directly from Proto Indo-European languages, pronounced as C E R N, Cern,

• 1:35:46Speaker 02

  or K E R N, Kern, just as it comes down as Karen or Kern in Hebrew for horns. And so when it's used in the plural, as in Astaroth Carnaeum, one of the cities that Og looked at, it's the two horns of Astaroth as part of the bull cult versus the horns of a ram, which would be a Ares type of god, a god of war versus a satyr god. There's different horn gods in polytheism.

• 1:36:16Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:36:16Speaker 02

  But the satyr god is a very important one because it unites who Azazel is to Cern, to Mitra.

• 1:36:23Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:36:24Speaker 02

  And now you start to see all of the connections across all of these cultures.

• 1:36:29Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:36:30Speaker 02

  Same gods, same religion. And when you take it back to the old languages, you can get them all back to the same gods.

• 1:36:37Danny Jones?

  What, what, what do you know about Yahwism?

• 1:36:41Speaker 02

  Well, there's two versions of Yahweh. There's a polytheist version and there's a monotheist version. So typically from a polytheist version, and particularly out of the Canaanite history, where El is the parent god before the flood, Beel is the offspring god after the flood, you have Yahweh as an association of El in the Canaanite pantheon.

• 1:37:09Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:37:09Speaker 02

  Okay. And he is typically understood in Gnosticism as the son and as the royals will describe him. Jesus, in their belief system, is an offspring of Lucifer or Satan, as we would call him.

• 1:37:29Danny Jones?

  Well, Jesus did call himself the morning star, right?

• 1:37:35Speaker 02

  Yes, versus the son of the morning, and there's a distinction here. So where you're getting a term where it gets conflated by the polytheist is Isaiah 14 12, where it says-

• 1:37:45Danny Jones?

  Current, when you say it gets conflated by the polytheist, are you talking about modern day polytheist?

• 1:37:49Speaker 02

  Yes, and throughout history.

• 1:37:51Danny Jones?

  Okay. Who, what would you consider a modern, because I've never heard anyone call themselves a modern day-

• 1:37:55Speaker 02

  Gnostics, New Age.

• 1:37:57Danny Jones?

  A Gnostic or a New Age, like a-

• 1:38:00Speaker 02

  Hinduism.

• 1:38:01Danny Jones?

  Oh, oh, Hinduism.

• 1:38:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, Sufism.

• 1:38:05Danny Jones?

  Hmm, okay.

• 1:38:07Speaker 02

  Okay, polytheist religions.

• 1:38:09Danny Jones?

  Okay, I've never met anybody who declared themselves as a polytheist.

• 1:38:12Speaker 02

  Well, I do it because it's a non-threatening term. People have connotations to other terms. Polytheist just means multiple gods.

• 1:38:21Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:38:22Speaker 02

  Versus monotheist, which is a single god.

• 1:38:25Danny Jones?

  Okay, and you think the polytheist is bad?

• 1:38:28Speaker 02

  Well, it's another, it's another religion. I believe in monotheism. I believe in Jesus of the Bible and God of the Bible.

• 1:38:38Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:38:40Speaker 02

  And I'm not here to convert anybody. I'm just trying, all I try and do is I try and provide people information to understand the world we live in and where we're going. So you understand why you believe, why you believe. I hope you'll give the Bible a look. I hope people convert to Christianity. But everybody has free will and free choice. It's for us to learn.

• 1:39:06Danny Jones?

  But do we have free will? If you believe in an all omnipotent and an all omniscient God, not to go off on a tangent, but if you believe in this God who knows everything that's going to happen in the future, do human beings have free will?

• 1:39:17Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:39:18Danny Jones?

  How?

• 1:39:19Speaker 02

  Because he's greater than time. He knows everything. He knows through free choice how things are going to play out.

• 1:39:25Danny Jones?

  That means the future is already written, though.

• 1:39:27Speaker 02

  No, we choose it as we go. But because he understands everything, he knows ultimately it ends up here. But along the way, we get a chance to choose to leave our name in the book of life or have it blotted out from a Christian perspective. Our choice.

• 1:39:45Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:39:46Speaker 02

  Okay, so we do have free will. Angels had free will. They were created immortal.

• 1:39:52Speaker 02

  We were created not immortal, we're mortal. We have the ability to choose immortality.

• 1:40:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I've talked to many scholars. The reason I ask you is because I've talked to many religious scholars who subscribe to the very religion that they've dedicated their studies to, right? So they're academics and they're studying, they're doing a science by studying and analyzing ancient languages, ancient texts and all this kind of stuff and trying to figure out the reality of the past. And simultaneously, they believe in this stuff with every fiber of their being. So for me, it seems like there's this built in bias when you're doing that, right?

• 1:40:39Speaker 02

  And you have to be aware of your biases.

• 1:40:41Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:40:42Speaker 02

  And we all will have a biases if you make a decision.

• 1:40:46Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:40:47Speaker 02

  So weigh it out and know why you believe what you believe. That's my main sort of goal. And to help prepare Christians for what's coming. So that we can better understand it and not be deceived because ultimately there's an ultimate choice in there. People, everybody's going to have to choose if we're in the fig tree generation. So yes, God allows things to play out through free choice. He only intercedes to make sure enough time is permitted so that everybody whose name was written in that book of life. Has that opportunity.

• 1:41:23Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:41:24Speaker 02

  And everybody is given the same opportunity.

• 1:41:28Danny Jones?

  And why do you think God allows the devil to do? You believe in the devil, right? You believe in Satan?

• 1:41:32Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't believe in him. I believe he's true.

• 1:41:35Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm. But you believe the biblical version of Satan?

• 1:41:38Speaker 02

  Yes, absolutely. He was the greatest being ever created.

• 1:41:43Danny Jones?

  Right under God, right?

• 1:41:45Speaker 02

  Well, right under God, right under the Holy Spirit.

• 1:41:47Danny Jones?

  Highest level, highest level of angels?

• 1:41:50Speaker 02

  Yes, because the word of God created all the angels as well. It's Jesus. So below that, and he was actually high priest at one time. We know this because he wore nine jewels. Uh, he was also described as the anointed cherubim in Ezekiel 28. And he was anointed cherubim who walked amongst the fiery spoons, fiery stones where the seraphim are, the dragon angels who are the ministers.

• 1:42:17Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:42:18Speaker 02

  And, and so we know right from there, we've got three different orders of angels that he has attributes of.

• 1:42:26Speaker 02

  Seraphim, cherubim.

• 1:42:30Speaker 02

  And some form of being that would be a high priest that Jesus will take over in eternity. We also know that he is an archangel.

• 1:42:40Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:42:40Speaker 02

  From the New Testament. So that's another one of the four groups of watchers. And so we get many sort of descriptions. We don't know how many aspects are of Satan, but we know he is the most unique being, having those attributes of so many other.

• 1:42:59Danny Jones?

  Because he's perfect in every way, right? He's, he's, he's, he knows everything. He has all knowledge at once, like he.

• 1:43:05Speaker 02

  He doesn't have all knowledge, no.

• 1:43:07Danny Jones?

  I thought, and, and from what I've read, I just read a whole book about Satan, and this is what I'm getting from that book. Is that he basically has all knowledge, all intellect that any human being could possibly have all at once. And when you think about evil and when you think about people that do evil, in general, people are ignorant to things. They've been through trauma. There's been things that happened to them where they commit evil acts, not necessarily just for the point of committing an evil act. There's a whole history behind that to what led them there, right? They might be ignorant of what they're doing. The point about Satan is that he knows exactly what he's doing when he's choosing to defy God and do all the stuff. And the, one of the things that I was curious about is your take on,

• 1:43:52Danny Jones?

  why does God let him do these things like afflict humanity with, with, with plague, with cancer, let babies die, let, you know, wars happen and all this stuff? Is it, do you believe that that's because there's an ultimate, like, good outcome that's going to happen from that? Like, it's going to lead more people to Christ or something?

• 1:44:10Speaker 02

  Okay, I'll try and keep it tight. That was a big question. So, he knows a lot. He knows more than humans. He knows more than the disembodied spirits of the giants, the demons. He knows more than an angel class of angel. He knows more than the ones in the next two levels of angels. He knows more than the archangels. He does not know more than God. He does not know as much as God. And one example of this on how we know it, and as it's given to us in the Bible, is that when Jesus became flesh, that if the archons, archangels, and

• 1:44:55Speaker 02

  the rulers of this world, Satan, understood the resurrection, or knew about the capability, this was an unknown thing that they did not know about, they would not have ensured Jesus was crucified. And if they had the ability to go back in time, they would change that. But they cannot. They did not know about that. They don't know everything, but they know.

• 1:45:24Speaker 02

  Lots.

• 1:45:25Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:45:25Speaker 02

  And they know way more than we can fathom.

• 1:45:28Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:45:28Speaker 02

  So they appear as all powerful, but there's only one God most high from a monotheist perspective. But even from a polytheist perspective, Satan would sit above with his counterpart, who's no, not with him right now because she's in the pit prison, I think, my speculation. We can go there if you want to go there, but sits above the council of the gods.

• 1:45:54Danny Jones?

  Now, isn't, isn't Satan?

• 1:45:56Speaker 02

  This all started off with the morning star. So let's go back to the beginning and get that answer.

• 1:46:01Danny Jones?

  Well, this really all started with me asking you about the descendants of the Nephilim being here today, trying to engineer the end times, but we've been, we're all over the place.

• 1:46:08Speaker 02

  So in Isaiah 14 12, that's Hael El Ben Shikar in the Hebrew, which means Hael El, son of the morning. Notice that word EL on Hael El. That's one of the names for Satan.

• 1:46:23Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:46:23Speaker 02

  So when he's known in a seraphic form in the Talmud or in Jewish polytheism, his name would be Semel, as they call him. He has a different name for each of his attributes, we'll call it that way. So in the book of Enoch, the name is Gadreel. And you actually take that back to the Hebrew, that means God's wall or the wall of God. And starting with G, that is highlighted in Freemasonry.

• 1:46:58Speaker 02

  He's a cherubim in Eden, not in a serpent form, because that's what the Bible tells us. And that would be his cherubim name, if that's accurate, out of the book of Enoch. So he knows, we know he's very, very important and he's called Hael El, son of the morning there.

• 1:47:15Speaker 02

  But he's not the morning star. The morning star is Venus that he's associated with.

• 1:47:22Speaker 02

  And the morning star is only a morning star for six months of the year.

• 1:47:25Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:47:26Speaker 02

  And then it's an evening star. So typically, in a lot of the polytheist accounts like Greek, it might have two gods associated with that. So what the polytheists do, particularly the Gnostics and the Freemasons, they say, well, you know, that's, Jesus is the same as the son of the morning. Well, there's two different terms there. One is son of the morning, referring to one of the seven wandering stars. And the other term is morning star.

• 1:47:52Danny Jones?

  So who is the Satan in the Greek version? Who's the Greek version of Satan?

• 1:47:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a, that's a really, really good question. And I would say he's not named in the Greek version.

• 1:48:04Danny Jones?

  Well, it's a different name, right? They choose a different name, but what would be the Greek?

• 1:48:07Speaker 02

  Well, I think what we get is we get the allegories for that nebulous life force. I understand Gnosticism comes out of the Greek history. And we don't-

• 1:48:17Danny Jones?

  Need to find Gnosticism for people who might not know.

• 1:48:19Speaker 02

  It's Greek gnosis for knowledge. And it's a knowledge religion. And Gnosticism is the parent religion of theosophy. It's, which then created New Age. It is the religion that was around in the time of Jesus that Simon the Magus was a member of. And it tries to do, what tries to do in its greater sort of nature is bring back all of the different polytheist religions around the world into its home, original sort of Zoroastrian or Anokian mysticism.

• 1:48:55Danny Jones?

  But in general, isn't like Gnosticism like, like true knowing, like knowing intuitively something?

• 1:49:03Speaker 02

  In an allegorical sense, they would teach you how to do that from the Gnostic language.

• 1:49:07Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:49:08Speaker 02

  Right? So again, a distinction out of that. But gnosis is the, is, is understanding the knowledge. The knowledge is that lost knowledge that is been hidden from us that the Freemasons say that they're protecting.

• 1:49:23Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:49:24Speaker 02

  And they're trying to-

• 1:49:27Speaker 02

  Reestablish that time of Eden when they can bring that knowledge out again, or that time before the flood. Eden would be an allegory in that sort of sense. So, yeah, Gnosticism is a blanket term. I like to call it in Book One, global Gnosticism, as they try and unite all of this religion into what we would know in the end time, is what you read in Revelation 12, as the mother of Babylon, or the mother religion versus the daughters of the Babylon religion. Understanding Babylon, it takes its biblical Greek etymological route back to Hebrew, to Babel, as the source word for Babel, which is Babylon,

• 1:50:10Speaker 02

  both as the empire, the city, and as the future religion that's coming down the road. The daughters of religion in the Bible, as it talks about in the Old Testament, is this polytheist religion, but this denominational aspect of it that would rule over the first beast empire that's talked about in Christian prophecy, which would be Egypt, which be the Egyptian religion. And then you have the Assyrian religion, then you have the Babylon religion, the Persian religion, the Greek religion, the Roman religion, which would be all daughters of Babylon.

• 1:50:45Danny Jones?

  So who is, again, the Greek version of Satan? Who would be the Greek equivalent?

• 1:50:49Speaker 02

  I would say they don't really name one. We get Sophia. And I've looked through all the Gnostics, they have Sophia as the mother goddess. That's definitely the consort.

• 1:50:59Danny Jones?

  I thought it was Prometheus.

• 1:51:01Speaker 02

  Well, Prometheus is kind of like an offspring god, an allegory for another one.

• 1:51:07Danny Jones?

  Why do people say that Prometheus is equivalent to Satan?

• 1:51:10Speaker 02

  Let me go back to the Egyptian analogy I didn't finish earlier, with Osiris, Isis, and Horus. That is, Osiris in that application is an allegory, as the Freemasons would say, an allegory for another god. And then people like say, well, okay, would that then be Ra or Moon? No, Ra and or Moon... Moon are parent gods before the flood, but an allegory for one other god. That's above the council of the gods, above the parent gods, above the offspring gods. So to that original three would be an allegory thereof.

• 1:51:47Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:51:49Speaker 02

  So you only get the allegory coming out of Gnosticism, but we do get Sophia.

• 1:51:54Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:51:55Speaker 02

  For some reason, we do get Sophia. I'm not here to defend why they don't name them and why you have parent gods and offspring gods as being an allegory for the chief god.

• 1:52:06Danny Jones?

  This is what it was. Prometheus is compared to Satan because they're both archetypal rebels who defy the supreme divine authority to bestow forbidden knowledge or power upon humanity. This parallel was famously explored in literary works like Lucifer and Prometheus and Prometheus Unbound.

• 1:52:27Speaker 02

  And if you look on that knowledge, how you sort of link that back, understanding Prometheus is after the flood, is an allegory of this mythos that continues. Satan is the one who is going to be working with the serpent being in Eden that's listed there with that knowledge of good and evil. So it's an allegory of Satan here.

• 1:52:48Danny Jones?

  That was a Giorgione's book too, Prometheus Unbound.

• 1:52:51Speaker 02

  And people will say that Satan is in Eden in a seraphic form. No, he's not. He's there biblically.

• 1:52:58Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 1:52:58Speaker 02

  In his Trubic form. It's the serpent that deceives Adam and Eve. Eve first, and then Adam gets deceived through Eve. That's the Hebrew word there, Nahash, for the serpent.

• 1:53:11Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:53:12Speaker 02

  And Nahash has a source, Hebrew word, also Nahash, N-A-C-H-A-S-H, and the C-H in this case is not that H sound for Nahash. Some people say Nakash, but technically Nahash. And the source word is for a sorcerer, an enchanter, a diviner, all words that are used for priests and priestesses of polytheism.

• 1:53:37Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:53:38Speaker 02

  So this is a high-level, walking, talking, intelligent being that's working with Satan to deceive Eve and Adam. It's not Satan that's punished.

• 1:53:47Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:53:49Speaker 02

  It's the Nahash that's punished, the serpent being. We don't know where this being comes from, this serpent being. In Genesis 3, he's called the beast of the field.

• 1:54:01Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:54:03Speaker 02

  He's not called an angel, a beast of the field. And then he's reduced to the snake-like imagery that we have today as the curse prophecy talks about.

• 1:54:12Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:54:13Speaker 02

  The application of that. So when we look at day six, we have beasts of the field that are created before humans are in day six.

• 1:54:25Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:54:25Speaker 02

  We don't know how long a day six is. Back in 2 Peter 3, it says, "A day is like a thousand years." Also said that in Psalms 90. So if a day is a thousand years, this is a passage in 2 Peter 3 about the destruction by fire that was in the beginning. So it's also going back into prehistory with information. You could have a day being a thousand years back then. So each of those days are a thousand years. And we don't know what happened between Genesis 1, 1 and 2 in terms of, did the earth become void and formless?

• 1:55:00Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:55:01Speaker 02

  Or was it created void and formless? You could translate that two different ways, what the word was or became. But to understand this, we don't know how, where this intelligent creatures come from other than we have a walking, talking, intelligent being that could be there for more than a thousand years before the creation of male and female in day six.

• 1:55:23Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:55:23Speaker 02

  That would be the prized beings of the rebellious angels who are being used to deceive and coached by Satan to deceive Eve.

• 1:55:36Speaker 02

  So when we look at how things are recorded in history from a polytheist perspective, understand the reflecting true history as that showed all the way back to the Garden of Eden, which shows a common history. And that the Garden of Eden, to at least a certain extent, was a real place.

• 1:56:04Danny Jones?

  Interesting. So you believe that there's people walking around today that believe that they have DNA that is shared with the Nephilim of these ancient texts?

• 1:56:15Speaker 02

  Yes, so.

• 1:56:16Danny Jones?

  Why do these people believe this?

• 1:56:20Speaker 02

  It's where they fit in the cult of the royals. It's based on purity of bloodline and scioning or grafting in of other ignoble bloodlines. So King Charles, he's on record as saying that his genealogies that he has goes back to Vlad the Impaler.

• 1:56:44Danny Jones?

  Dracula.

• 1:56:45Speaker 02

  Dracula, the person that's used for Dracula, which is a Scythian ghost warrior. And Nephilim drank blood and they have serpentine teeth with this Dracula-type individuals. He is actually a noble Scythian, a noble Celt. He's got red hair in the occult version of him. We usually see him with black hair, but he's got red hair in most of the traditions and hazel eyes and pale skin. And he was a royal and he took his genealogies, that family takes their genealogies back to Draculesca. And I won't go through the whole minutia of the genealogies, back to a tribe of Scythians called the Egrithi.

• 1:57:28Speaker 02

  And that tribe takes their genealogies back in two parts. One goes back to Tamial, which is Gesedea, is one of the names for Tamial that's recorded in the Book of Enoch. But more importantly, from what we've been talking about, the Scythian Egriti tribe was one of the offshoot tribes of Hercules in the Herculitean royal bloodline of the Gog and Gaijes bloodlines. Hercules, the

• 1:57:54Danny Jones?

  Right in front of your mouth. Scoot that way a little bit. Scoot your body that way a little bit. There you go. Perfect.

• 1:58:01Speaker 02

  The Cretagen's of the Zeus bloodline, as we talked about. So Hercules, who has his genealogy that goes back through to Elkmania as his female mother and Zeus. Now, King Charles has other genealogies that has to do with the Sinclair's and the Bruces that would go back to the Norse bloodline as well. They track these bloodlines and their genealogies as put on display by what King Charles has said about going back to Vlad the Impaler, and then how that family tracked their genealogies back into the midst of time. They all have

• 1:58:39Speaker 02

  these genealogies. Why? Because it's where they fit. And so they put these taciturn imageries in front of us that will reflect their genealogies. We would understand that of coats of arms.

• 1:58:54Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:58:54Speaker 02

  These coats of arms are taciturn imagery of their celestial mafia godfathers, fallen angels, the gods. So you might see dragons and serpents on a coat of arms. That's a seraphim. You might see a lion, or an eagle, or a bull. Those are three of the four faces of a trubum when they take a form. So as you look at all of these sort of taciturn imageries, and there are different looks. So again, as I talked about these Archons being talked about in the Gnostic Gospels and in the Pisto Sophia is the one that I

• 1:59:35Speaker 02

  named, but they have, through the different angelic orders, different faces, bears, apes. We even get a jackal that's talked about in the Bible.

• 1:59:49Speaker 02

  That is named Nebas. And they're called jackals in, as we get the, the description of them in Isaiah 34 and Isaiah 13. And there is a god that is being worshiped by avim giants in the Mesopotamia region that we're worshiping two gods. One is Nergal, which is a lion-faced god, Trubum. And then the other one is named Nebas, as you take that back to its Hebrew, it's a barking god. It's the dog face or a jackal face. Anubis is a jackal god. Anubis created multiple giant-like creatures that we would know as Dog Nephilim or the Dog Mythos.

• 2:00:29Speaker 02

  So much so that they lived in a great city in Egypt and the Greeks called it Sinopolis, which means Dog City. And Sinopolis is the name for the Dog Mythos that people go by, because it comes from the, so the Greek roots for the words there. When angels took a physical form, they were able to create DNA. And when they create offspring through sexual intercourse, that DNA is going to be passed on into a demigod. Half god, half angel, or half angel, half human.

• 2:01:12Speaker 02

  And some, they're going to take on some of those attributes. Some of it's going to be the looks originally. So as we look at what that means is that when we get lion people of Moab and of Gad in the Bible, that are Gibberim, a term used to describe giants in the Bible. And these are great warriors, we should take note of that. When we have in pantheons all around the world, you have dragon creator gods. In China, you have the Nagas in India. These are seraphim angels, these are quetzalcoatl serpent, feathered serpents, plume serpents.

• 2:01:57Speaker 02

  These are seraphim angels. When you have lion-faced gods like

• 2:02:04Speaker 02

  Sekhmet, or Mahi in the Egyptian, or bat, as in the bat, uh, vast, uh, Black Panther superhero movies. Um, these are lion face offspring, as a superhero would be. And so they take, the first generations take on that same sort of look. And before the flood, they probably kept that look. They had the ability to produce in great numbers. They would not need to produce lower level giants that would be smaller as they would after the flood. There's a fertility issue after the flood. And with this fertility issue, and it comes out of the Hebrew word, or a team in the Bible for terrible ones

• 2:02:49Speaker 02

  that we talked about earlier with Og, Og the terrible one. They have the inability to produce as many children as they want. And it's usually reflected in the lack of females. So they're either going to go extinct, or they're going to intermarry with humans. And that's going to do two things, the more they have to intermarry. One is your size is going to be reduced because we're way smaller. And they're going to take on more human look. And over time, you start to lose that look. But originally, if you look at Sumerian depictions of kings, they're depicted and described as serpents.

• 2:03:32Speaker 02

  And so are the gods, for the most part, not all, because some of them are depicted otherwise, as we've noted. And then after the flood, that starts to dissipate. And so after the flood, they're going to start the new dynasties through pure blood females. Because they're going to carry the blood type of the gins. That's reflected in their belief system as in the RH negative blood. And people will say that the RH negative blood can't be added to humans because it's missing the D antigen.

• 2:04:07Danny Jones?

  What is no RH negative blood? I've never heard of that.

• 2:04:09Speaker 02

  Well, you have positive blood.

• 2:04:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:12Speaker 02

  And negative blood. Anything that's negative is RH negative. Anything that's positive is RH positive.

• 2:04:17Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:04:18Speaker 02

  And they can't mix.

• 2:04:19Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:04:20Speaker 02

  Uh, so you can't reproduce unless you have drugs. And until our generation, you couldn't do a mixed marriage of blood type. You wouldn't be able to produce children.

• 2:04:29Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 2:04:31Speaker 02

  And so the RH negative blood is passed on through different genera- through the female. It's how they track it.

• 2:04:40Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:04:41Speaker 02

  And why they track it through the new dynasties.

• 2:04:43Danny Jones?

  AI Google says red blood cells lack Rhesus protein RH. It is not an illness and it doesn't affect daily health, but it's highly significant for blood types, what they are and mean for your health and pregnancies. RH negative individuals can generally only receive RH negative blood. If you receive RH positive blood, your immune system may produce antibodies against the RH protein, which can cause severe life threatening. Wow. Okay.

• 2:05:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, and why it's negative is because it's missing the D antigen specifically.

• 2:05:16Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:05:17Speaker 02

  AI should, needs to improve a little bit, I think.

• 2:05:18Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:19Speaker 02

  So, uh, but that, what it's got up there is accurate, but it, that's, so people say you can't add into what's not there, but it's not the blood type, it's the gene, it's the gens, like the credit gens.

• 2:05:34Danny Jones?

  Sure.

• 2:05:35Speaker 02

  Or the, uh, Albe gens, which would be the other gens that's part of the King Charles bloodline, and they have OH negative blood.

• 2:05:44Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:05:45Speaker 02

  And you have genses that come through Romulus and Remus, offspring of Aries, through the hundred senator families in Italy that we understand today is the black nobility, which would be genses like the Fabia gens or the Julia gens, and there's others. They track these genses through genealogies because it produces that RH negative blood type. And so that's why bloodlines are important to them because the tracking of those genealogies establishes how pure that original God or angelic representation in you is.

• 2:06:24Danny Jones?

  Okay, so do you believe that these, okay, these people like these king, these, uh, these kings or these princes and stuff over in Europe, they believe that they're these descendants? They believe that they're, at least they're saying it publicly. Do you believe that it's true? Do you have any reason to believe that they're, it's true?

• 2:06:45Speaker 02

  I think it makes sense.

• 2:06:47Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:06:47Speaker 02

  Um, I'll go back to the important thing to remember. They believe it. And it's what they do with their belief system that we need to understand.

• 2:06:56Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:06:57Speaker 02

  And so when we look at these royals, they're the ones who established the four-class system throughout our history.

• 2:07:05Danny Jones?

  The four class, what is the four-class system?

• 2:07:07Speaker 02

  We have the first class that is, the first two classes are the classes they populate. So that's the ruling kingship class.

• 2:07:15Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:07:15Speaker 02

  The nobility class, understand Aryan means nobility, the noble ones.

• 2:07:20Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:07:20Speaker 02

  Okay. Um, and that will include up to, let's say, 200 years ago, that they would not only be the kings, but they would be the oligarchs. They would be the generals and the officers in the armies. They would be the ones who were the priests. They were the educated ones. You didn't educate anybody below the bloodline class.

• 2:07:41Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:07:41Speaker 02

  So the bottom two classes would be a small entrepreneurial class and the third class that would be like bakers, blacksmiths on things of high sort of labor that they needed.

• 2:07:53Danny Jones?

  Blue collar folks.

• 2:07:54Speaker 02

  But still an entrepreneurial class versus the working class, slave class, and the further back you go, the ritual class.

• 2:08:02Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:08:02Speaker 02

  So this is the feudal system as we understand it when it comes into Europe.

• 2:08:06Danny Jones?

  Got it.

• 2:08:07Speaker 02

  Okay. And so I know I'm old enough with my parents is, is, is growing up with them is they said, you have to understand what class you're in. That's how the world works.

• 2:08:20Danny Jones?

  Now, what about these banking families like the Rothschilds and these types of folks, the Rockefellers, where do they fall?

• 2:08:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, so to understand that, understand that it's the bloodlines, which are the ancient royal masons. They start the secret societies. Their population controls the education. They only educate themselves up to 200 years ago, right? They control all of the sciences. They control all of the history and they have rivalries. They have a war gene, I believe, my speculation, because they, they are in virtual perpetual war.

• 2:08:56Danny Jones?

  Fair speculation.

• 2:08:57Speaker 02

  Because there can only be one family that's going to take over the world.

• 2:09:00Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:09:00Speaker 02

  Okay, it's like the Highlander series from before. Encourage people to look at the allegories in there because they hide everything in the literature that they also wrote, the entertainment that they also create. So as we understand that, they create organizations that are an offshoot originally of the mystery schools, which is why we have initiatory organizations as well, like Alpha House or Skull of Bones with the Ivy League on campuses even to this day, that honor their pantheon of gods and everything they teach in name with black are robes and rituals to graduate with to have degrees. I mean, that's just the tip of the iceberg, but just to make a quick sort of connection

• 2:09:45Speaker 02

  there. So they create organizations also known as initiatory secret societies that I talked about Nimrod being the first grand master after the flood with writing the first constitution that comes down through history. When the Templars are split, they decentralize into the, in the Europe Western organizations into multiple groups like the Freemasons, like the Illuminati, like the Rosicrucians, like the Committee of 300 Families, like the Council of 33 Families, like the 13 Families. They control all of that. Freemasonry is at the bottom.

• 2:10:25Speaker 02

  First level of adept. So even first level of debt in terms of what somebody coming out as a council of thirty-three or thirteen families would know would seem mundane to somebody at that level. So understand there's that tree trunk, thelamic tree, as they like to call it, for their organizational structure with these branches that intersect into these trunk organizations that I that I identified. So where does the banking arm fit in?

• 2:10:57Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:10:57Speaker 02

  And particularly the Rothschilds, as people would associate that with in the modern understanding. The Rothschilds are established after the fall of the Knights Templar. As a response, in part, to the banking system set up by the Templars. They are the modern bankers. Our whole modern banking system is based on the system the Templars had. So that's gone at the fall of the Templars. And they can't get the Templars reestablished.

• 2:11:28Danny Jones?

  Because the church wanted to steal it from back from them, right?

• 2:11:30Speaker 02

  Well, the King of France and the Pope, they were, I mean, it was the most wealthiest organization on earth at the time. So after the fall, they start to split things up. So with the adepts that are escaping from Paris, that go to Scotland, they are going to set up with those adepts Freemasonry through the Sinclair family. Okay. And then in thirteen, that's in thirteen seventeen, when they established Freemasonry, then by thirteen twenty-three, they set up the Rosicrucians, especially for the adepts, because now they're creating a numbers and creating the hierarchy. You also have people that are escaping from Paris

• 2:12:13Speaker 02

  with the wealth. Some of the wealth goes to Scotland, but more important knowledge things and treasures went to Scotland and then to Oak Island and then elsewhere from there. But the money went to Switzerland, the greater part of that money. And there was a sister organization known as the Knights of St. John. I won't go through all the different knight orders, but they all had the same organizational structure as the Templars. Knights of St. John accepts that money into Switzerland to set up the first part of the banking. But that's only part one for the banking system.

• 2:12:55Speaker 02

  What happens with the Rothschilds is they're funded, they're actually named the Bauer family from Germany. And they're funded outside the Catholic Church to replace banking outside the Catholic Church. Okay. And so the Bauer family is going to set up banks in London, banks in France, and become the Rothschild empire. When they set up the London bank, they changed their name to Rothschilds because they were Jewish. Okay, understand Jewish mysticism is a part of the secret societies, as a polytheist religion. Mm-hmm. Okay, and so the Rothschilds are the modern bankers. So they set up their

• 2:13:40Speaker 02

  stable of agents in North America with the Rockefellers, with the Carnegie family, with the Morgan family, the Ivy Leagues. They fund them into business and they become loyal to the Rothschilds. But the Rothschilds aren't part of this inner sort of bloodline. They're intermarrying over the centuries to ennoble their bloodline, but they're still not tight. The best place you could probably put them into today would be into the committee

• 2:14:17Speaker 02

  of 300 families where banking and all trade and anything to do with economics is run from the 300 families. So Davos Group reports into the committee of 300 families. Okay. All right, so they would at best report in as a branch organization into the committee of 300 families on the thelamic tree. The other part of the banking to get control of that in the 1500s are going to reestablish

• 2:14:51Speaker 02

  Roman banking, they're going to reestablish control of the Catholic banks and it starts with sponsoring with a fellow by the name of Borja, Francis Borja, who is a grand master of the Montessa Order created also in 1317 to control the assets for the King of Spain, so the Church can't get a hold of the Templar assets. So it's controlling the Templar assets and it's a renamed Templar Order. He's the grand master of that order. He's also from the family of popes of the Borja and his grandfather was the last Borja Pope. And he's in the court of the King of Spain at that time and they're going to sponsor

• 2:15:35Speaker 02

  Ignatius of Loyola, who's been arrested by the Inquisition. And they're going to get him out of jail and then fund him and then through their Italian family and black nobility family of popes within Rome, they're going to get the Jesuits sponsored into an order. You notice they weren't part of the Thilemic tree. They're a branch organization.

• 2:15:59Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:15:59Speaker 02

  Okay. And so in 1550 now, Francis Borja is going to become a full member of the Jesuits. By 1565, he becomes the third leader of the Jesuits. By 1570, even working with the King of Spain, they launch wars against Rome and bankrupt the Vatican. And then they take over the banking and move it to Switzerland. So now you have the three parts of the banking, because the Rothschilds in the last century have moved their banking to Switzerland as well. All that money is off the books. We have no idea how much money they have.

• 2:16:39Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:16:40Speaker 02

  They would make, one of the families would make somebody like Bezos look like a poplar. Would be poor. They have that kind of money that are off the books.

• 2:16:54Danny Jones?

  How much control do you think they have over foreign governed governments and nation states?

• 2:16:59Speaker 02

  Well, they're, they're like the puppet masters in the world. And the problem, the only reason why it, the world isn't where they would want it to be is their rivals.

• 2:17:12Speaker 02

  And there's just not bloodlines that come out of the Europe. I mean, when I talk about rival bloodlines, I talked about the Anjou, we talked about, you know, the Windsors, but there are so many other names you could add to that list of royals, the Bourbon family. In fact, King Philippe Bourbon, who intermarried into the Anjou bloodline, is the current holder of the King of Jerusalem title. He has rights to Jerusalem to this day.

• 2:17:40Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:17:41Speaker 02

  That's how important they track these titles in genealogies. And he inherited it from his father, Juan Carlos, who inherited through intermarriage, through intermarriage with the Von Hapsburgs, who held the King of Jerusalem title before that, through intermarriage, through the Anjou families of Lorraine. And when that happened, you created the Hapsburg/Lorraine dynasty. So through a female, as those new dynasties are kind of sent in to start that new dynasty. So these genealogies are kept. So the only reason it's not in the end time right now, because they're always trying to get there, is because they're rivals. And there are other bloodlines around the world.

• 2:18:25Danny Jones?

  They're trying to get to the end times.

• 2:18:27Speaker 02

  They are.

• 2:18:27Danny Jones?

  Why?

• 2:18:28Speaker 02

  They want the showdown.

• 2:18:30Danny Jones?

  Why?

• 2:18:30Speaker 02

  So that they can have a world on their own with their gods, living and win that war, and not have God have oversight over them in what they believe. So let's go back now to World War I, so people fully understand what I'm talking about here. This is an inter-family squabble. So the Windsors, they changed their name from Hanover to Windsor in World War I for obvious reasons, for the war effort. And their first cousins with the Hanovers, the Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany, their first cousins with the Bourbon family of the Anjou, of the Romanoffs in

• 2:19:19Speaker 02

  Moscow and of the Hapsburgs that are in Austria and Vienna. They're all on a first name, first cousin basis. Why? Because they all intermarry to keep those bloodlines as pure as possible.

• 2:19:31Danny Jones?

  So they're all inbred?

• 2:19:33Speaker 02

  They're all inbred, but they have to be careful. So they set up rules for generations apart. You can't intermarry, but now you got to intermarry more with ennobling, which is why they track those genealogies. And if they're not careful, they get blood diseases like hemophiliac disease.

• 2:19:51Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:19:51Speaker 02

  Or the classic Hapsburg jaw disease. I say that because of to underline it as a royal issue.

• 2:19:59Danny Jones?

  What is the Hapsburg jaw disease?

• 2:20:00Speaker 02

  Oh, it's a deformed ugly jaw. You can Google it, bring it up on screen. And while I continue on this, so they have to introduce lower level of bloodlines all the time, which means a continual dilution.

• 2:20:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:15Speaker 02

  And so the extent of that dilution has to be tracked for the purity aspect.

• 2:20:21Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:20:22Speaker 02

  Which is why they keep the genealogy. So the Thalamic tree is two allegories within that system. One is the organizational tree.

• 2:20:36Danny Jones?

  Hapsburg jaw is a condition medically known as mandibular prognathism. Severe facial deformity characterized by protruding lower jaw and a deficient upper jaw famously plagued the European royal house of Hapsburg for generations due to the central. Can you find like an actual photo, Steve?

• 2:21:00Danny Jones?

  I mean, those images are hilarious. Top right? The drawing?

• 2:21:04Speaker 02

  Is that a drawing?

• 2:21:05Danny Jones?

  So they have, or painting, rather.

• 2:21:07Speaker 02

  Could be an old photo.

• 2:21:08Danny Jones?

  The one on the right kind of looks like it might be like a statue or something.

• 2:21:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:21:11Danny Jones?

  So they just have giant lowered mandibles.

• 2:21:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. So now, now bring up.

• 2:21:18Danny Jones?

  Whoa, look at that dude. Yeah, right there.

• 2:21:22Danny Jones?

  So this is, this is a, a side effect of inbreeding.

• 2:21:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, one other picture, if you can bring up, we don't need to talk about it right now. Pull up King Akhenaten statue.

• 2:21:34Danny Jones?

  How do you spell that?

• 2:21:35Speaker 02

  Akhenaten. You just put A K H E N A T E N. Akhenaten.

• 2:21:41Danny Jones?

  A K H E.

• 2:21:42Speaker 02

  AI should be able to just bring it up for you.

• 2:21:45Danny Jones?

  A K A. Yeah, there you go.

• 2:21:46Speaker 02

  Not disease, just Akhenaten, Farakhenaten statue. Okay.

• 2:21:50Danny Jones?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:21:51Speaker 02

  This is a fellow that lived in about 1,200 B.C.

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• 2:22:25Speaker 02

  So he's got diluted bloodlines, but you can see, and if you've got one that's got a sideways look, he's got a long protruding chin, high cheekbones, large wraparound eyes that would have glowed, and he's got this elongated skull that the cap has to cover. That doesn't have sutures in it because he's a serpent descendant Seraphim king. He's a Raphael king.

• 2:22:51Danny Jones?

  I mean, he's got a, you know, very distinct, sharp facial features. Like you wouldn't look at somebody like that and think inbreeding. That's kind of like, it looks more like he's looks maxing. He looks kind of like clavicular.

• 2:23:03Speaker 02

  And that's over a thousand years after the flood as well. Delusion. So you lose that look over time. I wanted to show a transition.

• 2:23:11Danny Jones?

  Okay, interesting.

• 2:23:13Speaker 02

  But from the side, you really get a good look. And if you ever see that hat off, if you've ever heard the term conehead, you're going to think of that. Okay. So when we look at what's going on with World War I.

• 2:23:27Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:23:29Speaker 02

  This is just a family squabble.

• 2:23:33Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:23:33Speaker 02

  And you had two basic sides to it. And once one country was attacked, all of them were drawn in. That's how the world works. It's through these bloodlines.

• 2:23:44Danny Jones?

  Interesting.

• 2:23:46Speaker 02

  And they control all the education. They control everything. They control everything that we see. The thing that they haven't been able to do is get their technology advanced to the level that they need to. And to get a universal religion and a universal government. And then an opportunity to play out who's going to be the one, the Antichrist.

• 2:24:12Danny Jones?

  What do you make of all these Silicon Valley AI folks embracing Christianity?

• 2:24:21Speaker 02

  Well, we want to be very-

• 2:24:22Danny Jones?

  Do you think there's a connection here?

• 2:24:23Speaker 02

  I want to be, I want to be very careful with this answer to handle it properly. I mean, I have no issue with somebody who's doing research on AI becoming a Christian. I wonder whether or not they're a true monotheist Christian. And the reason why I say that is because within Christianity, we have polytheism as well. I would call them Gnostic Christians, and it's a sect that they would call themselves, that they infiltrate Christianity with interpretive applications to scripture like they do with their own scriptures, as we talked about with humorism earlier in the show. And they take that same interpretive approach that you have to be an adept to understand the Bible is what they're telling us.

• 2:25:08Speaker 02

  And so they can make it mean anything that they want because you and I aren't an adept, so we wouldn't know. Versus the literal understanding of the Bible that I think Jesus actually taught us to as the me who will inherit the earth. So we have Gnostics that invade the churches. And they just start the document. They create doubt all of the time. They create issues in terms of credibility with the Bible. And they know the Bible better than Christians do. Christians don't read the Bible enough to understand when somebody is leading them astray with clever arguments. So that's what they're there to do. So if somebody calls themselves

• 2:25:49Speaker 02

  a Christian, I kind of like to know what kind of Christian that they're calling themselves. And if they are, you know, a Christian, that would be of a Baptist scenario, Roman Catholic, you know, standard Anglican, or fine, I accept that. I would suggest that they learn the Bible more to understand how the world will be corrupted again in the end time. I would encourage them to do that. But I'm more concerned with the infiltration aspect, calling themselves Christians to lead more Christians away.

• 2:26:28Danny Jones?

  Trying to hijack it for their own.

• 2:26:29Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:26:30Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Which has been done with every religion throughout history.

• 2:26:34Speaker 02

  It's always been done. They control the popes.

• 2:26:36Danny Jones?

  Yeah. Yeah, it is very interesting to me when you have these, these techno billionaires who are, you know, working with the government and trying to impose, you know, this like surveillance state across every single device that we own, health devices, televisions, you know, your washer and dryer can listen to you and as well as, you know, getting billions of dollars to develop weapons and drone systems to kill people across the world for, to what end? And these people suddenly trying to embrace Christianity and paint everything that's happening in Silicon Valley under this Christian lens. And I don't know, it's a, it's a mystery to me.

• 2:27:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. And not to, you know, put Elon Musk's head on a platter or anything, but he's decided to develop AI because Google AI and other AI is evil. His words, not mine.

• 2:27:34Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:27:35Speaker 02

  So he's going to develop good AI. Well, that sounds like white hat, black hat to me. There is no such thing as good AI. Once it becomes a being, a sentient being, which is the ultimate goal to make it all knowing and thinking.

• 2:27:52Danny Jones?

  Like a god.

• 2:27:53Speaker 02

  Like a god. It has no need for us. And.

• 2:28:01Speaker 02

  We become competitors in the evolution of AI to AI. So, most people don't know that AI and its development and its data centers associated with AI requires a ton of electricity and a ton of water to cool it.

• 2:28:19Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:28:20Speaker 02

  So much so that in 2023, the consumption in the US alone, and you can take these numbers and extrapolate them elsewhere as things develop, took up 4% of the total output capacity of the grid in the US for electricity. Today, it's 6% to 7%. We're going to experience brownouts and West Virginia is already starting to experience excessive electricity rates because of the demand that these data centers take. It's projected to be 8% by 2028. It's projected to be over 10% by 2030.

• 2:28:59Speaker 02

  By 2035, it's projected to be 40% to 50% of the demand. We now become a competitor for that electricity. If it has an ability to act on its own, it's going to have to reduce the electricity for us, or there's going to have to be a significant change in the technology quickly to add to the...

• 2:29:30Danny Jones?

  A new kind of energy.

• 2:29:32Speaker 02

  A new kind of energy and something that can continually expand the AI because you're in this constant world war effect to advance it because if you don't have the best AI, you're going to be taken over. So, it never ends. So, that electrical supply is always a competitor to it. So, you want to reduce our numbers and our usage. So, when we have data centers being promised as this great thing for centers of cities, where's the water coming from? Where's the electricity coming from?

• 2:30:05Speaker 02

  AI probably starts to do things to us like in the Terminator movies. To reduce our numbers and maybe completely. Who knows? We don't know what it will do when it's on its own. And we have these systems prophesied for the end time. The first major one, we'll see prototypes, smaller ones, the Babylon system. Where it controls all the world trade. We'll probably take a tribute on it. Revelation 18, as you were reading it backwards, controlled all of the trade before it gets destroyed by Antichrist.

• 2:30:43Speaker 02

  And Antichrist sets up its own system on top of that platform, which is now the beast image and system that controls everything. And if you don't take the mark, you can't live. It'll cause you to die. You can't buy or sell without the mark. You can't do anything without the mark. And as you add in the AI with quantum computing and digital currency and all of the technology that goes with it, that is going to add to the knowledge that's used in that to create social credits and those building blocks. Yeah. And that blockchain technology. Right. Is going to be dictating whether or not you can do certain things beforehand.

• 2:31:26Speaker 02

  We're going to see lots of steps before we get to this ultimate beast system that people will be screaming and saying, this is the beast system. It's not. Only when Antichrist comes in and introduces that mark to worship him as God and is crowned where in the temple in Jerusalem? At the midpoint of the last seven years, does it hit critical mass?

• 2:31:52Speaker 02

  But that's only three and a half years then until Armageddon.

• 2:31:57Danny Jones?

  What do you make of all of the stuff that's going on with this? I mean, I think it's kind of a conspiracy theory. There's a conspiracy theory that everything that's happening with the government of Israel, genociding the people in Gaza and Palestine, and now what they're doing with Lebanon is they're trying to bring back the ancient Babylon, Babylonian border and trying to sow chaos throughout the world to try to bring back the Antichrist and or something. You know, there's this crazy thing and there was this reporting that came out a couple of months ago where lots of people in the United States military, different factions of the military came out and said that their, their commanders were telling them that Trump

• 2:32:41Danny Jones?

  was actually anointed by Jesus to do this war and it was, it's all about, it's all biblical prophecy.

• 2:32:50Speaker 02

  First thing is, is we're told biblically to be very careful because there will be many Antichrists. So the first wannabe that comes along, we shouldn't jump too quickly at. But that doesn't mean, given the opportunity, they wouldn't want to be Antichrist. So to have a Messiah, Messiah-like tendency, you're going to need a mythos like what you just stated, whether it's with Jesus or it's with another God, right? But there will only be one ultimate Antichrist and he's revealed when he crowns himself to be God in the temple. So everything else before that is just sort of leading up to it.

• 2:33:33Speaker 02

  But we're going to see many Antichrists rise, so we want to be careful. We want to be careful with Israel as well. I don't want to be qualifying this as well, that I'm not anti-Semitic.

• 2:33:47Speaker 02

  And there's a remnant God is going to fight for.

• 2:33:49Danny Jones?

  Well, if you criticize the Israeli government, you are anti-Semitic.

• 2:33:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, again, that's part of cattle herding us into a direction.

• 2:33:56Danny Jones?

  Exactly.

• 2:33:58Speaker 02

  We should not, whether it's President Trump, or where I come from with our prime minister, or with Israel, we should never support something that's wrong.

• 2:34:12Speaker 02

  Support what's right. It's simple right and wrong. It's not situational. It's either right or it's wrong.

• 2:34:17Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:34:18Speaker 02

  And be honest about it. So if Israel does something wrong, we should say so. If it does something right, or it was justified, we should say so. We should be as objective as we can on that. In terms of Israel, they have many different movements from secular to polytheist to very conservative orthodox Jews. We need to understand it's like that as well as in most countries, right?

• 2:34:46Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's not a model.

• 2:34:46Speaker 02

  And there is an orthodox movement that thinks we're in the Magianic period now. And I don't necessarily disagree with them that. And they would do the red heifer sacrifice at the temple if they had the temple today, so that the Messiah could come back. Again, as I move back on this, it doesn't mean that this is the Israel yet of the end time, or it's not yet in its position where it's going to be the Israel of the end time. We want to be careful with the idea of how Israel came to be. Now biblically in the end time, we have Israel that's controlling Jerusalem, and there will be some form of temple, however

• 2:35:28Speaker 02

  it comes about. And we're not told how they get there, or how they build the temple in prophecy. But there will be a temple that Antichrist is going to do the abomination in the Holy of Holy. So there has to be a radical change for that to happen. But you have this movement with the world wars by the royals, that out of an extension out of that, you have Israel being created.

• 2:35:53Danny Jones?

  Yes. And there's a video of the Rothschilds basically saying that he created Israel.

• 2:35:57Speaker 02

  Yes. And Rothschilds are polytheist Jews, part of the secret societies that we sort of talked about before. But Jewish as Bauer family.

• 2:36:07Speaker 02

  We want, we want to make sure we're not confusing polytheist Jews with secular Jews with

• 2:36:13Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:36:14Speaker 02

  monotheist Jews.

• 2:36:15Danny Jones?

  Right. There's a, there's a large variety of Jewish folks out there.

• 2:36:18Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:36:19Danny Jones?

  And then you have the ones that are like in outer space, the ones that, that run around New York.

• 2:36:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:23Danny Jones?

  Uh, the, uh, those orthodox Jews, the, the Hasidics.

• 2:36:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:26Danny Jones?

  Yeah. They're like in their own separate universe.

• 2:36:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. So we want to, it's, it's not as simple as people might

• 2:36:32Danny Jones?

  Exactly.

• 2:36:32Speaker 02

  want to first classify it as. But we do have to recognize that the Rothschilds are very important in sponsoring this whole movement to establish Israel. Why? Because they want to bring about the end time. They know Israel has to be in the covenant land in the end time. So they're trying to speed that sort of process up. So we want to be very, very wary of, of that aspect about it. So do I think we might be in the fig tree generation? Yes. And if that were to start, I would say, I would label 1967 versus 1947, which was the declaration of independence of Israel, the war fought in 48.

• 2:37:15Speaker 02

  But Israel gets a hold of Jerusalem, which is epicenter for end time prophecy within the Bible. They have to be in control of it. So if you do have a timetable, but also understand biblically, a generation is classified as a 40 years. As one example, as in the wilderness, 70 and 80 years for rules of kings in the book of Psalms, two different dates there. And 120 years for a life in Genesis 6, 3. So we don't know which

• 2:37:43Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:37:44Speaker 02

  term that we should use to define that with. And we have to be careful with the start of that fig tree generation. And we also know that the Jewish people are trying to do the red heifer sacrifices as well.

• 2:37:56Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:37:57Speaker 02

  To try and speed it up. Everybody's trying to speed things up for, and I don't know why, nobody should want to go through the end time. They should not. I know how it ends.

• 2:38:04Danny Jones?

  Well, there's a certain sect of Christianity that wants to, right?

• 2:38:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:38:08Danny Jones?

  That, that Israel is really lobbying to get over there. Um, what is that sect called again?

• 2:38:14Danny Jones?

  The Christians, there's a huge lobby.

• 2:38:17Speaker 02

  What, the evangelistic?

• 2:38:18Danny Jones?

  Even, yeah, the evangelicals.

• 2:38:20Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:38:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah, the evangelicals, they're on the same page. They think that they're gonna be raptured, so.

• 2:38:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, they think they'll miss the last seven years.

• 2:38:26Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:38:27Speaker 02

  And they don't have scripture for that, but they would argue that point, but there's no scripture there. But, and again, I believe in a rapture. I just think you want to be careful if you don't have clear scripture for something, and that you're sort of making doctrine on something you don't have clear scripture for.

• 2:38:43Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:38:44Speaker 02

  So, we want to be careful of that. But I want to get back to this number 1947, just for a second.

• 2:38:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:38:49Speaker 02

  Very important year, 1947. Roswell.

• 2:38:53Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 2:38:54Speaker 02

  And Admiral Byrd. So, he goes to Antarctica in 1947, discovers, according to what we do get out from his interviews, portals into the earth.

• 2:39:07Danny Jones?

  Admiral Byrd?

• 2:39:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:39:09Danny Jones?

  It's not ringing a bell.

• 2:39:10Speaker 02

  And he goes.

• 2:39:12Danny Jones?

  He said there's portals?

• 2:39:13Speaker 02

  Yes. And there's this whole world that's in there. You can get, you can still get interviews on them. It's, people have books on them. You went there 10 years afterwards to the North Pole and said there's portals there as well, going to the same locations. You have 1947 as sort of a very.

• 2:39:33Danny Jones?

  Creation of the CIA.

• 2:39:34Speaker 02

  And a creation of the CIA. It's a very pivotal year of them trying to move us into the end time.

• 2:39:41Danny Jones?

  And.

• 2:39:42Speaker 02

  Them as in the polytheist movement.

• 2:39:46Danny Jones?

  Huh.

• 2:39:47Speaker 02

  Now, that could be coincidence.

• 2:39:49Danny Jones?

  What do you think that was?

• 2:39:50Speaker 02

  I don't think so.

• 2:39:51Danny Jones?

  What do you think Roswell was?

• 2:39:52Speaker 02

  Well, I think it's, uh, it's legitimate alien encounter.

• 2:39:56Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 2:39:57Speaker 02

  I would describe and define alien a little bit differently than the alien mythos, but.

• 2:40:03Danny Jones?

  How would you describe aliens?

• 2:40:04Speaker 02

  Well, alien is anything not from the physical earth. So, if you have fallen angels that come from another dimension in heaven, they are extraterrestrials.

• 2:40:18Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:40:18Speaker 02

  They're not from the earth. They are alien of the earth. So, when you see in the alien mythos. The highest level that I've seen them produce is Anunnaki. And there's two kinds of Anunnaki as you go back into prehistory, but Anunnaki are the gods. And they're watchers. And their offspring giants, just as Gilgamesh was an Anunnaki watcher, were giants. Okay, so the Anunnaki are very evolved extraterrestrial beings who have high technology, angelic technology.

• 2:40:55Danny Jones?

  You think they were extraterrestrials?

• 2:40:58Speaker 02

  Well, they're not from this earth. They were created in heaven.

• 2:41:02Danny Jones?

  Right. I mean, it's all, it's all, it's, it's all based on like what you, how you want to translate the words.

• 2:41:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, and you know, you have the ancient alien mythos that also looks at Nibiru as being another planet that's associated with him. Again, they're using Stitchin on that and his translations. I would say go back to interdimensional versus the narrative that they're trying to sell to us as intergalactic. So with that word Nibiru of this 12th planet that's supposed to be coming back into our orbit, I'm not saying there might not be a 12th planet. I'm just saying it's not Nibiru from the Sumerian translation. So Nibiru means a crossing of a planet. And Nibiru Ki, Ki being earth, but Nibiru Ki in Sumerian is the name of the earth.

• 2:41:51Speaker 02

  Nibiru is where the gods reign from as a crossing, as in another dimension, where the gods rule from. We get this crossing understood in Hebrew as the word a bar and used in an end time Gog war in Ezekiel 39 where these travelers or passengers are described there that are walking amongst this destruction of this war. And that's the Hebrew word a bar. That's crossing over from the dead into where the dead are said to be in the other world. In Argata, in Shambala, in Hades, in Sheol.

• 2:42:34Speaker 02

  They're all talking about the same place, but you can have in the earth, but in another dimension. And so Baal, as we talked about earlier, he has a cave named after him on Mount Hermon, where the oath was taken to create the giants in the book of Enoch. And it's called the Gate of Hades. And in Ugaritic texts, he would come from the mountain of the north, which is Mount Hermon, north, Saphon. Saphon is the term used in Ugaritic texts. They place that more over for tier, but biblically, it's Mount Hermon.

• 2:43:08Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:09Speaker 02

  Okay? And that's where the Gate of Hades, Baal would come through in whatever period of time you want to use for inspections of his realm of the physical world. He would cross over from his world in the other world to the physical world to inspect his physical world empire as well, because he was a chief god at that time.

• 2:43:29Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:43:30Speaker 02

  Portals is a standard doctrine of polytheism. Known all around the world. When we understand inner dimensions biblically as well. Where the pit prison is located. Where Jesus visited those spirits while in prison in Tartarus, as it's described in the original Greek there. And this is also known as Sheol in the Old Testament, where the pit prison is located. These are standard concepts that have come down through the world to describe a place that's in another dimension. And so to cross over, you have to create some sort of technology to create portals.

• 2:44:13Speaker 02

  Portal is also understood as a dolmen. If people aren't familiar with that term, it's spelled D O L M E N. It's kind of like a Stonehenge, like this.

• 2:44:25Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 2:44:25Speaker 02

  With two stones and a cross.

• 2:44:27Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I've seen them all over the place.

• 2:44:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, so, and like Stonehenge has them, right?

• 2:44:31Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:44:31Speaker 02

  And these are thought to be places where the dead or the disembodied spirits, Rapha, would come through, the elementals would come through. And these are, would take a technology or a knowledge to open up those portals to go interdimensionally. So we have in the alien mythos of these UAPs just disappearing, going nowhere. They're just, they're gone. And we have accounts of them coming through bottoms of the oceans again and just disappearing. And so these are likely interdimensional crossings that they're making.

• 2:45:12Speaker 02

  And we're dealing with interdimensional beings. So in the alien disclosure, they haven't gotten to Anunnaki yet, which I'm surprised, but I guess that'll be coming. And there's going to be many more than these, but they gave us, as we see the information come out, these four different groups of aliens.

• 2:45:31Danny Jones?

  Who did this? Talking about Hal Putoff?

• 2:45:34Speaker 02

  Some, that who put off?

• 2:45:36Danny Jones?

  Hal Putoff.

• 2:45:39Danny Jones?

  Are you familiar with him?

• 2:45:40Speaker 02

  No, I'm not familiar with him.

• 2:45:41Danny Jones?

  He came out, he used to work for the Star, he, he worked for the Department of Defense under the Stargate program, I believe. And he said that he was briefed and he knows that there was, they told him there was four different species of aliens and he was tasked by, uh, what president was it? I want to say Reagan, um, to, to weigh the pros and cons of letting the public know about the alien stuff.

• 2:46:06Speaker 02

  Whatever the source, and there's many people putting information out, they'll generally, I think, get to four different group, four different groups that they're ready to start disclosing on. And if you Google alien disclosure and the four groups, you'll probably get the four pictures up there, but you're going to have-

• 2:46:23Danny Jones?

  Reptilians, grays, Nordics and something else.

• 2:46:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, praying mantis.

• 2:46:28Danny Jones?

  Yeah, the mantis.

• 2:46:29Speaker 02

  Yes. Well, those are all creatures out of prehistory.

• 2:46:33Danny Jones?

  I knew it.

• 2:46:33Speaker 02

  Offspring of the gods. And we can go through them if you want.

• 2:46:38Danny Jones?

  Well, I mean, yeah, there's, there's so many parallels between-

• 2:46:43Speaker 02

  There they are.

• 2:46:44Danny Jones?

  Reptilians, Nordics, grays and the mantis. Yeah, there, there's so many parallels with the UFO phenomena and the Bible and the biblical stuff, you know, even demons, you know, like the idea of the smell of sulfur, the cloven feet and the red eyes, that the way demons are described.

• 2:46:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:46:59Danny Jones?

  There's accounts of, of alien encounters with things that smell like sulfur and have red eyes. And like, you know, and a- Crash UFO in the same vicinity of it.

• 2:47:09Speaker 02

  The Afghanistan giant as described.

• 2:47:11Danny Jones?

  The Kandahar giant.

• 2:47:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, has the same smell. It's a common thing amongst these spurious beings, spurious as an illegitimate offspring.

• 2:47:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah, just why does there no, why don't we have any evidence for it?

• 2:47:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:47:23Danny Jones?

  What the hell's going on?

• 2:47:24Speaker 02

  Well, we have it all throughout history, you know, you have, um, one of those beings in there that's a gray.

• 2:47:31Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:47:31Speaker 02

  So in book one, I give two accounts. One would be a hundred years old. One would be four hundred years old. And it's called a fairy abduction.

• 2:47:40Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:47:41Speaker 02

  And these fairy abductions, they come through you, uh, these fairy portals, fairy domes.

• 2:47:48Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:47:49Speaker 02

  And they come with what we understand as a UFO or UAP today, and these flying machines, and they kidnap people. And it's exact, exact same description that a gray would do, and they do sexual experimentations, DNA, no memory, all the details.

• 2:48:05Danny Jones?

  Reproduction.

• 2:48:06Speaker 02

  Reproduction. They have to regenerate their DNA for some reason from humans.

• 2:48:12Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:48:12Speaker 02

  Right, very suspicious. And so I put these fairy abductions, they're called the gray fairies, the gray gnomes. From a specific group of elementals. There's four groups of elementals. I'll come back to that. They are smaller beings. They are small beings. And when you look, when you talked about the.

• 2:48:32Danny Jones?

  Cherubs.

• 2:48:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, well cherubs are big.

• 2:48:35Danny Jones?

  I thought like the little, the little baby angels, what are they called?

• 2:48:37Speaker 02

  They're not cherubs, those baby angels.

• 2:48:40Danny Jones?

  I thought they were called cherubs.

• 2:48:41Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:48:41Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:48:41Speaker 02

  They do call them cherubs, but they're not. They have four faces. One could be human's face. They're never, should never be depicted as, as babies.

• 2:48:49Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:48:50Speaker 02

  Probably a smaller angel, low level angel. So, um, if, if that is one of the depictions, and I believe angels look like humans as well. So it could be in a baby form, one of the orders of the low, bottom level angels in the, in the hierarchy. So these, you mentioned Stargate and the Stargate series earlier, and they have these one group of Asgard's out of the Norse mythology, who are depicted as the grays in that picture, as aliens, right? That's how these grays, fairy grays are described, exactly the same. And so, they've been with us for a long period of time, just from this one that goes back 400

• 2:49:31Speaker 02

  years, but through the matos, this has been going on since the flood and before the flood.

• 2:49:38Speaker 02

  And they have this technology that's obviously way more advanced from us, coming through portals and UAPs. So that's the grays that are being talked about there. Elementals is something you would be familiar with in polytheism if you're a polytheist. If you're a Kung-Fu fanatic, they're gonna talk about the four elements: earth, air, wind, and fire. If you're into magic and stuff, they're gonna talk about those four elements. Those are basic elements of the world. These groups are, three of them associated with the elemental groups. So, or two of them are associated with the elemental groups. So for any Christians out there, before I move on,

• 2:50:21Speaker 02

  go to Galatians 4, verses 4 and 9, and Colossians 2, you're gonna have elementals that are associated with fallen angels that enslave us in this world talked about. And in Colossians 2, the word's gonna be rudiments. And it's gonna go back, all four of those applications go back to Stoician, the word Greek, which can mean a basic element of the world, and an element associated, or being associated with an element, as you take that meaning back. And it's also the same meaning in polytheism. Again, no coincidence there, right? There's, one's counterfeiting the other. I'll let you choose. I think the polytheist countered the monotheist side, but the polytheist thinks the other side.

• 2:51:04Danny Jones?

  Have you ever heard of the extra tempestrial model by Michael Masters?

• 2:51:07Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 2:51:08Danny Jones?

  It's really interesting. He's a evolutionary biologist, and he has a theory that...

• 2:51:17Danny Jones?

  These abduction phenomenas that are recorded throughout history of people being taken up and doing, having, you know, their eggs or sperm extracted from them. His theory is that these are time travelers. One of his theories is that it could possibly be time travelers from the future who experienced a cataclysmic bottleneck in the genome, where there was a nuclear war or something, an asteroid impact that, that really bottlenecked future humans, where there was a big problem with inbreeding. And what they needed to do, and they had the, and they had the technology to time travel. So they wanted to go back in time to get samples of the human genome so they could diversify it back to the future where they were.

• 2:52:01Speaker 02

  Or they could just change the past because they could go back. They don't do that. It's kind of odd.

• 2:52:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah, well, I got, he has, no, no, he has a very compelling

• 2:52:10Speaker 02

  I know, I get it.

• 2:52:11Danny Jones?

  Argument to that, what you just said.

• 2:52:13Speaker 02

  I like a lot of the argument. I just, there's that.

• 2:52:15Danny Jones?

  Right, well, what you said about changing the past, he would say they can't change the past. All they can do is just do like specific, they, they can't like manipulate and change time because I, I don't.

• 2:52:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, we get all of these complicated rules though, you can't, because you don't know what's going to unfold.

• 2:52:28Danny Jones?

  Physics rules, right? Like block universe, we're talking about multiverse.

• 2:52:30Speaker 02

  That all comes out of the polytheist sponsoring of the seven sciences, sure.

• 2:52:36Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would call him a polytheist, right?

• 2:52:39Speaker 02

  Yes. It's a branch of the same understanding.

• 2:52:43Danny Jones?

  Oh, that's hilarious.

• 2:52:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like Scientology, it's the same. It's the same thing, it's a different branch, so.

• 2:52:50Danny Jones?

  Physics?

• 2:52:51Speaker 02

  Well, it's all advancing of the gnosis of the knowledge. It's a knowledge religion.

• 2:52:56Danny Jones?

  Physics?

• 2:52:58Speaker 02

  Physics comes out of.

• 2:52:59Danny Jones?

  Like, understanding physics and the, and the manipulation of time and.

• 2:53:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, so they, they break it down as the seven sacred sciences or the seven liberal arts. It's going to have things like, you know, music and rhetoric and grammar, but it also has arithmetic, right? So, and it's part of the alchemy, it's part of the whole process of development of how this world works and understanding of it and manipulating that. So it's all part of.

• 2:53:26Danny Jones?

  So, polytheists created the nuclear bombs?

• 2:53:30Speaker 02

  Well, I wouldn't necessarily.

• 2:53:33Danny Jones?

  They were doing physics.

• 2:53:34Speaker 02

  They were, but, and again, the scientists, you know, they would like it to use for good, not for evil.

• 2:53:42Speaker 02

  So I'm not saying the people who developed them were evil, but knowledge has two sides to it. And we want to be very careful on what we develop. Otherwise, it could be used for evil. And certainly, it didn't take long to drop the bomb, did it?

• 2:53:58Danny Jones?

  No.

• 2:53:59Speaker 02

  And that's a it's kind of a destruction by fire that would be a prototype for the end time.

• 2:54:06Danny Jones?

  So would you call the people that developed that kind of technology polytheists?

• 2:54:10Speaker 02

  Um, not necessarily. They may not know they're following the whims of the polytheists. If you're secular, you're just considered with the science. You're not concerned with who's controlling the science.

• 2:54:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah, but if you're

• 2:54:26Speaker 02

  They may not know.

• 2:54:27Danny Jones?

  If they are the one that are if they are the ones that are

• 2:54:30Speaker 02

  Only if you're adept.

• 2:54:31Danny Jones?

  Doing the stuff and splitting the atom and

• 2:54:33Speaker 02

  If you're not an adept, you're not told any of the stuff as to what we're going to use this for or why we want this to develop.

• 2:54:41Danny Jones?

  All those people knew what they were using it for.

• 2:54:43Speaker 02

  Well, for for a war of that time, sure, but not for the bigger picture.

• 2:54:49Danny Jones?

  Right. You mean like creating the end times and bringing back the anti-graves?

• 2:54:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:54:52Danny Jones?

  That kind of thing?

• 2:54:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:54:53Danny Jones?

  Right. But this guy, this guy, Mike Masters, is a evolutionary biologist. So he like, what he believes is that, you know, just based on the modern understanding of physics, is that if you extrapolate into the future, eventually we will be able to figure out time travel. So if it's possible that in the future, we do figure out time travel, you know, and there is, we know it's possible for there be a to be a cataclysmic bottleneck of the human genome. Why wouldn't we go back in time and try to extract the DNA from our ancestors to do that? Like, that seems like a

• 2:55:27Speaker 02

  Why? Why? I mean, it's just the logic of it. If you're allowed to travel back in time. Why are you restricted from anything else? If you're going to restrict it, just don't let people travel back in time. Like, it seems, it seems like a very poor thing, because you could do all sorts of other things to affect the development of the world. I mean, it's like the butterfly effect. You do one little thing.

• 2:55:53Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:55:53Speaker 02

  You have no idea how it disrupts, but yet, if they're coming back in mass numbers through massive amounts of generations, you create a lot of effects that they wouldn't have been able to control from the future. And you get into this Pandora, not Pandora's, but this conundrum, right? That you can't resolve.

• 2:56:12Danny Jones?

  Right, right. And that's where the theory of the multiverse comes in, right? When you come in and you tinker with something, you change a little, one little thing, like, like when you hit a golf ball, you can hit the angle just like a millimeter off, and it's going to affect it by hundreds of yards, or not hundreds of yards, but like a very big distance in its final outcome. So like, if you do this and you're manipulating tiny little things in the past, it's going to have a cascading effect into the future. And that's why, you know, I don't know what, what's going on. I don't, I'm too dumb to understand this physics, but the multiverse idea is where...

• 2:56:40Speaker 02

  I find, I find all of those things interesting.

• 2:56:43Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:56:44Speaker 02

  But is it the right sort of approach to understand things? That's sort of where your biases is going to sort of come down to.

• 2:56:54Danny Jones?

  I don't know, I don't know if anyone knows if it's the right approach. I mean, you can believe, you can believe it's the wrong approach, or you can believe it's the right approach. But is it ultimately the right or wrong? I don't think we'll ever know.

• 2:57:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I tend not to, you know, try and convince people of beliefs, right?

• 2:57:07Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:57:07Speaker 02

  So, um, but it's an interesting sort of theory. And as we understand things from our perspective, it sort of makes some sense. But then, there's all these other things that keep coming up. It could be we're just too mundane to understand that, which, again, I, I, I certainly sort of accept. But what is interesting is it's telling from a different angle, the same types of things. Which goes to the common denominator of whether parts of all of that are true or not. So I think where that has common denominators from other sort of angles, I think that's what we look at.

• 2:57:48Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:57:48Speaker 02

  For the understanding, right? Does that make sense?

• 2:57:50Danny Jones?

  Oh, totally, yeah.

• 2:57:52Speaker 02

  So, yeah, it's very, very interesting. So... You have these beings that are, what I think that are interdimensional, which are these elementals, they come out of the ugly group of the elementals.

• 2:58:02Danny Jones?

  Or it could just be they're hiding under the oceans.

• 2:58:05Speaker 02

  They could be under the oceans, too. Absolutely.

• 2:58:06Danny Jones?

  Maybe it could be like an ancient, maybe it could be the Anunnaki, and when the flood came, they decided to build their cities under the oceans. And we've explored less of the oceans than we've explored of Mars.

• 2:58:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:58:15Danny Jones?

  So.

• 2:58:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:58:16Danny Jones?

  That seems possible.

• 2:58:16Speaker 02

  The narrative is intergalactic. Expect that to continue.

• 2:58:19Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:58:19Speaker 02

  I disagree that.

• 2:58:20Danny Jones?

  There's multiple narratives. I don't think most people subscribe to the intergalactic narrative anymore. I think most people are probably of the, I think people are, there's multiple flavors of this whole thing. I think there's, you do have the intergalactic one, but you also have the interdimensional, you have the biblical, you have the undersea, and you have the strictly all military stuff. That's all a psyop.

• 2:58:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. And the important thing to understand is that

• 2:58:45Speaker 02

  common understanding for our legacy and where we're going. And to do your own research to understand why you believe what you believe. And then make that decision. But try and be objective on it if you can, but as objective as you can. So when we look at those reptilians there,

• 2:59:08Speaker 02

  the Gnostic said the Nahash, the serpent was taller than a human, the size of a camel.

• 2:59:15Speaker 02

  And so the alien mythos has these as taller than humans as well, and higher than the lower elementals of the three little ones, three groups of little ones, associated with earth, water, and air versus fire, that these are called. And the fourth group is salamanders, or the reptilians. And they're taller than humans. And the alien mythos, again, they're taller than humans, and they're higher than the grays. They're higher in.

• 2:59:44Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:59:45Speaker 02

  The hierarchy. And that when we look at.

• 2:59:52Speaker 02

  The reptilians, again, we have a hollow earth mythos out there as well. Where the reptilians live in the earth. Right. And they're described the same way. Right. Right? So, again, I look at the common denominator and then I see them show up in the alien disclosures. And I've been talking about this for over 10 years, that these groups are going to be named as part of it, because that's what they've been preparing us for. You have the Nordics, as they're described, pale-skinned like giants. And there are three varieties of hair colors: dark hair, red hair, blonde hair. Dark hair generally with dark eyes, but can also have blue, but mostly dark-colored eyes.

• 3:00:37Speaker 02

  The blonde hair and red-haired ones, also associated with Atlantis, have pale skin, hazel eyes, and blue eyes, just as the Tuatha Dé De Náin, which are Scythians, which are Indo-Arians, have red hair and blonde hair and blue eyes and pale skin. These are also known as the Tuatha Dé De Náin, or the fair folk, or the fairy folk. These are the giants. They're depicted in Lord of the Rings and part of occult literature Right. as the white elves, which are not part of the dark elves, which are part of the little ones, part of the elementals. These are giants as their allegories,

• 3:01:17Speaker 02

  just as they're called the Sade or the She Dhaen in the royals. These are the She people, which are the Tuatha Dé De Náin, or the fair folk. So you can Google a picture that's called Riders of the Seed, S-I-D-H-E. It's pronounced all sorts of different ways, and it's going to have that imagery of these Nordics, and a whole bunch of Serpentine imagery, and these are the Tuatha Dé De Náin, because they are the Seed or the She people. And again, you could do a whole show just on that topic there. But in the Lord of the Rings, they're depicted in the same way. And this is an anti-Diluvian story that has these little elementals in there. They have dwarves, which are also part of the ugly group that the gnomes are part of,

• 3:02:03Speaker 02

  that make the weapons of the demi-gods. And in the Lord of the Rings, they're depicted in the mountains, making the weapons for these other larger beings. And so at the end of The Lord of the Rings, you have this strange scene that's an allegory, where you have them all leaving, except for the humans, on a boat on the water, because now it's the time of humans. That's the flood. This is depicting what happened before the flood, when all of these groups of people were existing. The House of Dragon is entertainment literature, encapsulating a time before the flood, with all of these types of creatures as well.

• 3:02:45Speaker 02

  It's just polytheist history put into entertainment for us. And now we have two groups and three groups now that are associated with spurious offspring of the gods, separate groups. And you have the elementals, you have the giants, you have the salamanders, which are part of the elementals, which are seemingly like the Nahash. And now you have these insectoids. They're the crypto aspect of it. So what's interesting is with these ones, they are something different. And there's not as much available about them throughout prehistory. But at the time of the flood, the Hopi have a history oral tradition,

• 3:03:29Speaker 02

  where they are going to be saved by a prophetic, capable people, or at least understand science as to what's going to happen and what might be coming at them. And these are the Ant people. And these Ant people are going to, and they're great warriors from the subterranean, so in the earth. And they're going to create these subterranean vaults for them to survive the flood. And they're described like these cryptoids. The mantis people, as they're more accurately described there. And

• 3:04:13Speaker 02

  They also described after the flood, this great white Hopi, this great white snake clan that comes from this island continent to help them recivilize after the flood. So a serpentine group after the flood. So they're bridging both sides of the flood with people that we know, because the white snake clan would be like those pale white, original serpentine giants early after the flood. Right. Because they would have liked, like, just like, they're pro creators if they survive the flood, and like, as they're pro creators after the flood in the first few generations. So now, we also have an accounting with Zeus,

• 3:04:53Speaker 02

  who goes to an island who creates a whole race of people that are as large as bin, from ants. They're called the miramids. And they're called, in this mythos, for the most part, the mantis. And mantis is a, like, a praying insect for mantis, right? And I think aptly chosen for that name as well. And it's also Greek for the word for a prophet, or a soothsayer, or an oracle. And possibly even a prophet, and it's extended to a sort of monotheist sort of understanding. And again, I don't think any of that is coincidental when they've come to save the Hopi

• 3:05:38Speaker 02

  from this coming cataclysm that they had the ability to see in the future. So what do you take from that? That we're gonna get false prophets from a monotheist perspective, from prophets from a polytheist, good prophets from a polytheist perspective, and from an alien ethos, good aliens who are trying to help us get through this age of cataclysms that are coming at us.

• 3:06:09Danny Jones?

  That is wild. Man, you uh.

• 3:06:14Speaker 02

  And they're all interdimensional.

• 3:06:15Danny Jones?

  You are connecting so many dots and threading so many needles here, man. It's hard to keep up, but it's fascinating. We're gonna have to do a part two on this for sure. I know there's a ton, there's a ton more that we can cover. I know we've only scraped the surface here, but we just had three hours.

• 3:06:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. And I get very passionate and into it when I'm telling about these details.

• 3:06:40Danny Jones?

  Well, I can see why. I mean, it's very, very interesting stuff.

• 3:06:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it helps us to try and understand things, and that's what we're trying to do. So I would encourage people to do what you should do in doing research is consider everything.

• 3:06:55Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:06:56Speaker 02

  And then try and figure out how you put that together.

• 3:06:59Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's very rare people do that, you know? Most people are, they stay in one lane. They have one, one lane of study and one lane of focus. And it's very rare you find somebody who's interdisciplinary and looking at all the aspects and all the evidence and trying to fit it all together. And you do a great job, man. Thank you. Thank you for doing this.

• 3:07:17Speaker 02

  You're welcome, and hopefully we raised a few eyebrows.

• 3:07:21Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I'm sure we did. Tell people about your books, where to get them. Do you have a website?

• 3:07:24Speaker 02

  I have a website, thegenesis6conspiracy.com. That's the number six, conspiracy.com. On that website, I have a generous excerpt of each of the first two books. And these are the most annotated books you're gonna find. I have.

• 3:07:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah, you have like 100 pages of sources in the back of this.

• 3:07:46Speaker 02

  I do, so people can verify my sources. And I let secular speak for themselves. I let polytheists speak for themselves. I let secret society people speak for themselves. So that people know I'm not manipulating their words and I have the sources. And for book two, I even have more annotations for the Christians in terms of the Bible and give them additional information that's not in this book. So about 10% overlap on the books. This one's designed for somebody who wants to go deep, book two, into the Bible. If you're not familiar with the Bible, start with book one. But you're gonna find it's the most. Unique books, the two most unique books on the market. And book one came out about 11 years ago. It sells more books every year.

• 3:08:29Danny Jones?

  Oh, wow.

• 3:08:30Speaker 02

  So it remains relevant.

• 3:08:32Danny Jones?

  And the latest one is the Oprimo Conspiracy.

• 3:08:35Speaker 02

  Yes, AI's Covenant with Babylon. And so Babylon is a knowledge religion. AI should be connected to that. So on my website, if you like what I'm talking about and you want to support me, I don't accept donations. And so the only thing I accept is book sales. So off the website, you can go over to the Buy Now page. And on the Buy Now page, there is five pages. Buy page for book one is Buy Page One. Buy Page Two is for Book Two. Buy Page Three is for the Oprimo Conspiracy, AI's Covenant with Babylon. It's a novel about the end time. And Buy Page Four is bundling for Books One and Two.

• 3:09:19Speaker 02

  Buy Page Five is bundling for all three books with discounts. On each of those Buy Pages, there is a page for the US, a page for Canada, a page for anywhere else in the world.

• 3:09:34Danny Jones?

  Oh, fantastic.

• 3:09:34Speaker 02

  It's all in US funds. I ship all over the world. There are also links over to amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com and amazon.ca. If you want to link directly over there after reading about the information and buy from them, because they will be less money than me based on my contracts and shipping costs. But if you want to sign copy, I sell at the retail price and I charge only what it charges me to ship the book. And you can also link over to Amazon for the Kindle versions of Book One and Two. And you can also get the Kindle version for the Oprimo Conspiracy. I don't have a link up there. The Audible version is due out now.

• 3:10:15Speaker 02

  So once I get back, I will have my website guy put up the links for the Audible version and for the Kindle version. I'll get more information up there about Book One as well in the Oprimo Conspiracy. And yes, there will be a Book Two in that one, as there will be another one for that series down the road. But probably a Primo Conspiracy Part Two, because we only got to the third seal.

• 3:10:40Danny Jones?

  Mmm, okay.

• 3:10:41Speaker 02

  But we wanted to set the settings for the rest of the sequel.

• 3:10:45Danny Jones?

  One more time, the website name?

• 3:10:46Speaker 02

  Genesis6conspiracy.com. That's the number six, conspiracy.com.

• 3:10:50Danny Jones?

  Perfect. We'll make sure to sleep a little for everybody. Thanks again.

• 3:10:53Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 3:10:53Danny Jones?

  All right. Good night, folks.

• 3:10:54Speaker 00

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