TBT: Leo Skepi Is Your Authentic Guru

Throwback Thursday The beautiful Leo Skepi steps into the studio this week, radiating that signature light the internet can’t get enough of. As the breakout host of Aware and Aggravated, Leo has been skyrocketing up the charts with his raw, relatable takes on relationships, family, education, finance, and everything in between. Leo opens up to Bunnie about his own personal evolution—how he rebuilt himself, rose from family chaos and toxic relationships, and came out the other side like a damn gorgeous phoenix. It’s inspiring, insightful, and everything you love about a Bunnie Xo deep-dive. Leo Skepi: Aware and Aggravated https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/aware-aggravated/id1594031639 TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@leoskepi?lang=en Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 0:02Speaker 01

  Alright gentlemen, coming to main stage next, this is Bunny. Get up there, she's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars.

• 0:15Bunnie XO?

  Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today I have my brand new bestie in the house. I know you guys love him online. I love him online and meeting him in person, he smells really fucking good. And he is a tall glass of water. Leo, baby, what is up?

• 0:34Speaker 02

  Hi baby, I'm so excited to be here.

• 0:36Bunnie XO?

  Dude, I'm so happy you're here. I did not know you were a Texas boy.

• 0:40Speaker 02

  I was born in Florida, but I just moved to Houston.

• 0:42Bunnie XO?

  Oh, okay. So how long have you been in Houston? Cause I'm from Houston.

• 0:45Speaker 02

  I'm coming up on a year.

• 0:47Bunnie XO?

  Oh wow.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  And I'm already sick of it.

• 0:48Bunnie XO?

  Oh really? That was my next question. Why are you sick of it?

• 0:51Speaker 02

  I just feel like I've outgrown it.

• 0:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 0:53Speaker 02

  And I don't mean to like be like an egotistical asshole, but like the opportunities there, they don't excite me.

• 1:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:00Speaker 02

  I like to be scared. I like to feel like I'm intimidated by an opportunity. And I don't feel that. Like LA is where I'm moving to in July.

• 1:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh wow.

• 1:07Speaker 02

  Plot twist, I haven't told anyone that.

• 1:09Bunnie XO?

  Wow, that's crazy.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  I'm moving, cause like that's the shit that makes me scared.

• 1:12Bunnie XO?

  So I grew up on the west coast and if I could give you any advice before you go to LA and I don't want to crush your dreams, I feel LA has lost its sparkle. It's not like it used to be. Yeah, I don't know how much time you've spent out there, but like I grew up LA Vegas. So it's like back in the day, that was, it was like so cool. And now I feel like every time I go there, like I really feel like it's just like a city of lost souls, if that makes sense. So I don't know, but I, not to be a dream killer, but.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  No, I literally went there for six days for a trip and I was like, oh, I love it. Here I come.

• 1:43Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I love it. Well then go baby, go.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  It was more like the people that I met.

• 1:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  That made it the experience. There were some fake people. You can just smell it. A lot of people say LA is fake. There's all this and that. Like if you don't have a good judge of character, of course, but I can kind of like just like smell it.

• 1:58Bunnie XO?

  No, I think you can see through people's bullshit for sure. So I fell in love with you on TikTok. I think you came across my page and I was like, who is this fine ass motherfucker? I was like, he is beautiful, but not only just your looks, your, just how you are on the inside is what's so beautiful to me and like what drew me in with you. And then as I started watching you, I was like, oh my God, I need to have him on the podcast. And then I saw how many other people love you. And then I found out you had a podcast. Let's talk about your podcast.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, my podcast, I'm the first gay person to chart number one in education.

• 2:32Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  Which is huge. I get chills talking about it. Like my nipples are so hard.

• 2:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:36Speaker 02

  Like it's, it's insane. But like that podcast, I literally started it from my dad's closet. Like I just had my phone, it's funny in the closet. But I just started like with my phone in the closet, like propped up on a shelf and I would just talk shit. And I would just share like anything I've learned and knew about life that I couldn't find when I was like struggling. And then it just like snowballed. And I've been doing it for like a year and a half. In the past three months, it has blown up.

• 3:02Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  And now I'm not in the closet no more.

• 3:05Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it-

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Literally or figuratively.

• 3:06Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it crazy how podcasts can be so therapeutic?

• 3:09Speaker 02

  Oh, I love it.

• 3:10Bunnie XO?

  I suffer from really bad mental health. I have really bad anxiety and like suicidal ideation and stuff like that, which we just had told me that you had about with that. Um, and I've been doing my podcast for five years and it's been one of the most therapeutic things I've ever done.

• 3:25Speaker 02

  It really is.

• 3:26Bunnie XO?

  It's really helped me kind of come out of my shell.

• 3:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, mine kind of is like sharing what I've learned, but it like heals me in a weird way. By like sharing what I've been through and sharing how I've overcome it. I learn a lot of things. And it's like my own little therapy, but I'm the therapist and the client.

• 3:42Bunnie XO?

  Right. You control the narrative. I totally understand.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  It's so nice, but I fully get it. And there's been multiple times where the things that I say, I always speak to my younger self in my podcast. So my messages are very harsh and direct and harsh truths. And it's like, I baby you when it's necessary. And then I tell you to get off your fucking ass and quit being a bitch.

• 4:01Bunnie XO?

  I think people need that though.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, but like there's so many times where I'll say certain things that I needed to hear so bad. And when I'm editing it back, I'll just start fucking bawling like a baby. And I'm like, hearing like- Myself say it. Hearing anyone say it was just like, whoa. But like, I have those moments. I love it.

• 4:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love that too. I love listening to you because you are so kind of poetic with your words too.

• 4:22Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 4:23Bunnie XO?

  You draw people in. Let's rewind it though. I want to know more about you, like where you came from, like growing up. I want to know about childhood traumas. I want to know all about Leo. And I want to pronounce your last name. How do I say it? Is it Skepi?

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 4:37Bunnie XO?

  Skepi. Okay, I wanted to make sure I said it right. I want to know all about Leo Skepi. So where was Leo born?

• 4:42Speaker 02

  Pensacola, Florida.

• 4:44Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Well, every time I say I'm from Florida, people are like, oh Miami. I'm like, uh-uh. The absolute opposite end of it and the worst spot. Pensacola is right next to Alabama, but it's also right next to the beach.

• 4:54Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  So you get so many different dynamics of people. Like you have like the little city people. It's like, there's certain areas that are like ghetto as hell. Like the murder rate and the crime rate is so bad. And then you have like the Hicks and like the country people from Alabama who don't mind their fucking business.

• 5:07Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:07Speaker 02

  And so I have like that. And then you have like the beach people. And it's like, it just was a melting pot, but it contributed to me being who I am. Like I got it all.

• 5:16Bunnie XO?

  Did you grow up there like your whole life?

• 5:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:18Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so that's where you grew up. And then were you raised by mom and dad?

• 5:21Speaker 02

  Yes. So my dad is Albanian and my mom is white.

• 5:26Bunnie XO?

  That's where your intensity comes from.

• 5:28Speaker 02

  Yes, but my mom moved in with my dad and his family at 16 when they met. So she was raised as an Albanian girl. So she has all the morals, traits, values. So that's kind of like how. It's like I, she's white, but I was raised in like a traditionally Albanian household and nuts.

• 5:47Bunnie XO?

  Was it super strict growing up or like super religious?

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Not really, but I don't know how to explain it. Like it wasn't bad. You're just raised. It's like, the way you can explain the Albanian way of life and culture is it's the. All the morals and values of like the mob mafia lifestyle are instilled in everyday people. So like the loyalty, respect, all of that is like very high held.

• 6:18Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  And that's how you're judged.

• 6:19Bunnie XO?

  I grew up with a bunch of Chaldeans in Vegas and that's how they operate too.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, like there is no betrayal. There's no nothing. And if you cross one, you cross all.

• 6:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  So everybody will come at you. Like that's just, that's the way I can explain Albanian culture. But like the biggest thing for me, kind of with all that. Back to my past and all that shit. I got bullied in high school. I was fat. I was ugly. I was all that. But the biggest thing with the Albanian culture is the most, like, the biggest disgrace. And the worst thing you can do is be gay.

• 6:48Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  And here I am.

• 6:49Bunnie XO?

  Were you always, did you, when, when you were a baby, did, not a baby, but like, you know, growing up, did you always, were you always attracted to boys or did something happen? Like, was something traumatic or?

• 7:03Speaker 02

  I wish it was that simple. Like, I wish some, like, something just fucked up happened to me.

• 7:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  No, it was kind of like a battle with my sexuality.

• 7:11Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 7:12Speaker 02

  And I started getting feelings for guys at a younger age, like middle school type, but I was like, no, they're just my friends.

• 7:19Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  And I was like, looking at them a little different and I would just shut it down in my head.

• 7:22Bunnie XO?

  I was humping girls when I was five. I mean, I, it, listen, I was a horny little goat. It's all right.

• 7:28Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 7:28Bunnie XO?

  Like, I think it just is something, but the thing is, is like, I don't consider myself gay because like, I love men. I need penetration, but I also appreciate women, you know? So it's like, does that make me bi? I don't know. You know, like, I think everybody wants a label and it's just like, just be who you are. Love who you love.

• 7:46Speaker 02

  I know, I'm like that. I wish I wasn't gay, but I'm just a faggot. I can't help it. Like, I like men, but I don't like little sissy men.

• 7:52Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 7:52Speaker 02

  I like tough men.

• 7:53Bunnie XO?

  We're gonna get into that because when I first saw you, I was like, he is so fucking hot. So I would think that women would try to like, turn you out because you're so masculine, but you're like so in touch with your feelings and like, you're like a dream guy for every girl. Like, you know, every woman, every woman's probably like, I am so confused watching this man every day.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have a lot of people that try and like convert me and sway me, but one thing that I do do is, I don't.

• 8:21Bunnie XO?

  He said that so calmly. He said, I do have a lot of people who try to convert me and sway me.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, but like, I do like to make out with my girlfriends. I love kissing girls. I love being affectionate, but when it comes to sex, it's like, that's, I need the masculinity.

• 8:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 8:35Speaker 02

  It would just be so easy if I was straight. So easy.

• 8:37Bunnie XO?

  I mean, but it's, you love who you love, you know?

• 8:40Speaker 02

  I don't love men.

• 8:41Bunnie XO?

  I like to make out with the girls whenever I'm drunk or like I'm going out too, you know, but I need a man to fucking toss me around. So let's bring it back. Um, you said in high and junior high schools when you started noticing that you were attracted to boys and stuff like that. Take me on that journey. Cause you're in this really, you know, I don't want to say strict Albanian lifestyle, but you know, you were raised in a certain way where that's, it wasn't acceptable.

• 9:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I had the thoughts, but I immediately just shut them down. Like even like as I got into high school, I was more like, okay, I am 100% into guys. Like I know it, but I was like, that will never come out of me. I will never act on it. I will never do anything. I will, that's not a potential. So don't even think that way. And I just shut it down inside myself.

• 9:30Bunnie XO?

  Do you think you did that because of how you were raised or because you were like, okay?

• 9:33Speaker 02

  And like for me, that someone looks, that looks like me and behaves like me and is from where I'm from. That's, I never in my life thought I would come out, ever. And just like to have, like I'm such a contradiction. Like the typical gay, I'm not.

• 9:50Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 9:50Speaker 02

  And the typical straight dude, I'm not. So I don't, I've never felt a sense of belonging or felt like I've fit in. So I don't know why I thought I'd have like an easy time with sexuality, but I don't fit any kind of like stereotype. And I like it now.

• 10:02Bunnie XO?

  No, I love that though.

• 10:04Speaker 02

  Damn challenge to get here.

• 10:06Bunnie XO?

  So it's when you finally did this, were you close with your dad and close with your mom? Or how was that relationship? And do you have brothers and sisters?

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 10:14Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  So I have a sister and my parents, my relationship with my parents has been back and forth. Like they got, well, they started getting divorced when I was like a child, but it strung out in court and it was like an absolute shit show. And it was just like a lot of, like, things kids shouldn't know. We were told and we had to make adult decisions from a young age. And then it was like, like the loyalty thing. When you showed appreciation or cared about one parent, the other parent took it as a betrayal. So it was very hard to navigate. Like I came from fucking both of you and you want me to pick? It's like, it's one parent was always pushing

• 10:57Speaker 02

  more of the picking, but it wasn't really, it was just a lot to take in. And it was hectic with that. But what was the question? I got off track.

• 11:03Bunnie XO?

  No, I mean, I was just saying, were you close to your parents?

• 11:06Speaker 02

  Yes, I was close with them, but we had our. I've cut both of them off at multiple points. Like I've stopped talking to both of my parents. I fucked up sometimes. They fucked up sometimes. It just was back and forth, but now I'm in a place where we're good.

• 11:20Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  So.

• 11:22Bunnie XO?

  Growth, yeah.

• 11:23Speaker 02

  Like everything happened how it had to and we wouldn't be where we are.

• 11:26Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it so crazy how dysfunctional all of our parents are? Like every, every one of us sitting in this room, fucking besides the two that, you know, that share parents. It's like, we all have dysfunctional ass parents, you know, like they just did not heal. They were the generation that chose not to heal. And I feel like we're the generation that has came in and we're like, bro, we are gonna fuck shit up and we're gonna change this shit. No matter what, the genetic DNA, fucking trauma, we are just changing this shit. And I love that for all of us.

• 11:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think the biggest thing with that kind of perspective on it is our parents.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  They had, they feel things. They don't like certain shit. They don't follow the way that they feel. They don't care that they're uncomfortable. They'll just suck it up and just deal with shit.

• 12:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Our generation is like, okay, why am I upset?

• 12:13Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Do I actually have to continue doing this?

• 12:16Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  We started questioning shit.

• 12:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  And it's like, we don't actually have to do this. Like to live a miserable life? No.

• 12:21Bunnie XO?

  No, not doing it, yeah. So when did you come out to your parents? Was it after high school?

• 12:30Bunnie XO?

  He's like, I'm about to get uncomfortable.

• 12:32Speaker 02

  I am sweating already.

• 12:33Bunnie XO?

  Aww, take a drink. Take a drink of your.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  Shit, a drink and a cigarette. You have a shot?

• 12:39Bunnie XO?

  We have Trulies. Trulies have vodka in them, right? I don't know. I've never drank one. I'm sober, so I don't drink them.

• 12:44Speaker 02

  I know. When I found out you didn't drink, I was like, oh, fuck.

• 12:47Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I had to, okay? I listened. It was bad. I was fucking popping pills and fucking drinking bottles of vodka by myself. It was a thing. I grew up in Vegas, okay? Like I lived the Vegas lifestyle.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Okay.

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• 14:27Speaker 02

  So I have to talk about kind of coming to terms with my sexuality a little first because I went from like, okay, I know that I'm into guys, but I will never act on it. And then I started seeing a therapist and I was like,

• 14:40Bunnie XO?

  I love that you were that young and you were so conscious to go see a therapist.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like 19.

• 14:45Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 14:46Speaker 02

  The reason I went to a therapist is because I hadn't cried since I'm like 12.

• 14:51Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  So I was like 19 and I was like, why don't I feel the emotion of sadness? Like, I don't feel sad. I get pissed off or I'm happy.

• 14:57Bunnie XO?

  Why do you think that was? Or did you come to a conclusion of why that was?

• 15:01Speaker 02

  Um.

• 15:03Speaker 02

  Sad and being hurt in any way was looked at, looked at as a weakness. So I completely cut off from that part of myself. Like I would feel numb, pissed off, or happy. And I got such like a deep pit of like that numbness. One time I was like, I'm having all these like traumatic ass things happen to me and I don't cry. I was like, what the hell's going on?

• 15:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  So I'm like nineteen, I'm like, oh, how I made money was another story.

• 15:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about that too. Don't think you're getting out of that. Were you already doing that in high school? I thought maybe that would be after, but were you, you said some traumatic things were happening to you. What are some of those traumatic things that were going on that you weren't reacting to?

• 15:43Speaker 02

  Okay, so like everything going on with my parents, betrayals from other family members. Um, trying to be killed by a few people. One was family.

• 15:52Bunnie XO?

  Why?

• 15:53Speaker 02

  Um, crazy shit, Albanian shit.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  My stepdad was extremely, I don't know how to explain him, that dynamic of him, but he was like extremely abusive and prepared me for life. Like he was an ex-con, had murdered a bunch of people, served his time, got out, still operated from the prison mentality.

• 16:19Bunnie XO?

  So I feel like it's hard to break that.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  Oh, you can't break it. It's like when people come back from war.

• 16:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 16:24Speaker 02

  You, once you get, once you see, like when you see the world in that way, you can't forget it. So like he knew how dark the world was and he wanted to prepare me for it. But what he did to me was like do everything to me that could be done to prepare me. So like anything you can imagine, like went through it, like he had like choked me out, put a gun to my head, like attacked me when I was sleeping multiple times. So I was always ready, even while I'm asleep. Like people will come up to me now and like try to put a blanket on me when I'm sleeping and my body just like, I start like swinging. Just out of like.

• 16:58Bunnie XO?

  Did you ever suffer from like anxiety and stuff like that?

• 17:00Speaker 02

  That was the least of my worries, anxiety, depression.

• 17:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Yeah. He's like, bitch, I'm trying to survive.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  Right. Like all of that was there, but like, that was a lot of it. And then he died.

• 17:10Bunnie XO?

  Did he ever sexually abuse you?

• 17:12Speaker 02

  No.

• 17:12Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  Luckily.

• 17:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I mean, he did everything else.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  At that point, I could have handled it.

• 17:18Bunnie XO?

  God, that's terrible though. How old were you going through that?

• 17:22Speaker 02

  I was, it was like sixteen to eighteen.

• 17:24Bunnie XO?

  That's so fucked up. And did your mom know that was happening?

• 17:29Speaker 02

  Not really, but he was abusing the hell out of her too. So like he

• 17:35Speaker 02

  was doing similar like abusive things to her. So we were both like trapped together. And a lot of weird shit with that, but he died like tragically.

• 17:47Bunnie XO?

  Karma.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  He was going like a hundred and like fifty miles an hour on a bike. He had a Hayabusa and he would trick it out to go like three hundred miles an hour. He was going like one fifty and a car pulled out when he was going down some like. I don't know if it was a freeway or whatever the fuck it was like he pulled out, someone pulled out and he hit them. And he flew like sixty feet in the air, his head came off in his helmet, he was laying on the side of the road. Yeah, that was like a big thing. I didn't cry. For like a few months.

• 18:14Bunnie XO?

  Well, I mean, that's kind of warranted. The dude fucking traumatized you, you know?

• 18:18Speaker 02

  But I loved him so much.

• 18:19Bunnie XO?

  You had a trauma bond with him.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  It's weird.

• 18:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  Like he, I know he hurt me in so many ways, but like his intention was to help me and prepare me. So I know you fucked me up a lot, but I could take on anything in this world now. I have no fear.

• 18:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  And I don't say that lightly.

• 18:36Bunnie XO?

  I think it's beautiful that you look at it that way. I really do. And I understand it because I was in a severely domestic violence relationship. And it has taken me years to cut that cord with the person who hurt me the most physically and emotionally. So I totally understand. The way that you're looking at it is beautiful though, and I it's inspiring because most kids who would be in that situation would. I don't want to say feel sorry for themselves, but would internalize that and it would come out in other ways. So I think for you to be able to look at it and kind of make it into a positive is a beautiful thing.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, this, the real thing that made me flip my perspective on it was when he died. It's like he was this thing that was untouchable, like no one can hurt him, no one could touch him. I had seen him get shot. I had seen him get stabbed. I had seen him been hit by cars. I'd seen him like take on groups of fifteen people and knock them all out, didn't get touched once. Like a fucking superhero and like I had this person. It was weird. Like when I was on his side, I was untouchable. If he was mad at me, I was fucked. Like he would kill me. So on his good side, I felt like safe and protected. Like he was showing me how bad the world was. But he was the only one that could hurt me. And then I saw how like dark the world is and what can actually happen, what people are capable of.

• 19:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  And when I lost him, I was so fucking scared. Because I was like, this person showed me how bad the world is. And is no longer here to help me.

• 20:05Bunnie XO?

  To protect you.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  And I was just like, that's what made me flip it. In my mind of like, now I'm sad I lost him because I'm fucking terrified.

• 20:13Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  That was like a big part of it.

• 20:16Bunnie XO?

  So take me on that journey after losing him. What you were already getting involved in stuff, illegal activities?

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:24Bunnie XO?

  Can we talk about it a little bit?

• 20:25Speaker 02

  Let's talk about it.

• 20:26Bunnie XO?

  I know you said you've hinted about it online and stuff like that, but what was Leo doing? Were you like fucking?

• 20:33Speaker 02

  So.

• 20:34Bunnie XO?

  Scarface?

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Seventeen, I started.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  I want to say escorting.

• 20:41Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  But fucking for money, basically.

• 20:43Bunnie XO?

  I love it.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  But I would never fuck anyone for money that I wouldn't fuck for free.

• 20:47Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? So I was like, I don't want to do no nasty shit.

• 20:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  But I started like having sex for money.

• 20:53Bunnie XO?

  How old were you?

• 20:53Speaker 02

  Started off, I was seventeen.

• 20:55Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 20:55Speaker 02

  Like I couldn't get hired anywhere. I was trying to get jobs, places, couldn't get hired. So I was like, I gotta make money.

• 20:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  So.

• 21:00Bunnie XO?

  I was an escort for in Vegas.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  I know.

• 21:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  That's what I'm comfortable talking to you about it. Cause you get it.

• 21:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, I understand one hundred percent.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  I miss it. It's so fun.

• 21:08Bunnie XO?

  Listen, listen, do I not always say if I, I will suck a dick for an outfit if I have to?

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Like, I'm tired of spending my own money.

• 21:17Bunnie XO?

  No, it was not. Listen, when you are accustomed to a certain type of lifestyle and people just being a sugar baby, like it is really hard to acclimate to the normal world. I will fucking harvest money in my bank account, ask me, I will not spend it. Like I, it's just, it's a frame of mind that you just, unless you've lived the lifestyle, you don't really understand it.

• 21:39Speaker 02

  Right. I'll get into my sugar daddy story.

• 21:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 21:42Speaker 02

  But.

• 21:43Bunnie XO?

  So seventeen, that's, that's young because you are underage, you know, um, who introduced you to that?

• 21:49Speaker 02

  Nobody.

• 21:50Bunnie XO?

  Nobody. You just came up with it on your own or did somebody make an offer to you? Cause I know my first, the first time I ever turned a trick was I was, how old was I? Fucking? Well, technically I guess I was eighteen because my first sugar daddy hired me at my job and bought me my first car. So, but I didn't turn, it was a Honda.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 22:09Bunnie XO?

  This was back in nineteen ninety eight.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  That was when I was born.

• 22:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. No, I've lived a few lives before you, baby.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  Oh, I love it.

• 22:18Bunnie XO?

  Um, but then my first trick I ever turned, I had met the guy in the strip club and he was Persian. And if I can, yeah, so.

• 22:26Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 22:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Let me hear about this. So seventeen, you decided that you were going to enter the adult entertainment world.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Not really entertainment, just like the adult, like.

• 22:37Speaker 02

  I had something I knew people wanted.

• 22:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  A big dick and I was young and I was cute.

• 22:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Like that was when I finally like got my body in shape. I stopped being fat. And I was like attractive. So I was like, all right, let's try it. And I had a situation happen where it was like, I was, I was at a certain hair salon I used to go to. Like I would like be strategic. I was going to like a nice hair salon and the lady that would cut my hair would have people sit under the dryer and cut my hair, like women, like rich women would like sit in the chair. And I would get my haircut and then we would like shoot shit and talk. One time, there was a girl there, I'm not gonna say her name, fuck that bitch. But we were like shooting shit. We got along and then she like asked for my number before I left. So like we talked, we hung out one time.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  And then another time she saw me in the chair, I had on a shirt that should said like sugar mama wanted, like as a joke. Like I just like had the shirt on, oh, it's funny. And then we ended up hooking up.

• 23:32Bunnie XO?

  Was she older?

• 23:33Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 23:34Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Forty one.

• 23:35Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow. And you were seventeen? I could never, I'm forty three. I could never look at a seventeen year old and be like, mm. Like this is not, maybe twenty two, but not seventeen.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  Looked or acted my age. Like I don't act twenty five. I don't look twenty.

• 23:47Bunnie XO?

  No, you don't. You do carry yourself very.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  So we ended up hooking up and then when I was like going to leave, she handed me 500 bucks.

• 23:55Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  And I was like, what's that for? And she was like, oh, I saw your shirt. And I was like, oh, fuck, okay.

• 24:01Bunnie XO?

  She's done this before.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  I was like, fun. So I kept seeing her like a little bit and then I was like, this could be a thing.

• 24:07Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  But then I realized like, sugar mamas are harder to find than sugar daddies. So that's when I was like, I'll start exploring sugar daddies and fucking men for money.

• 24:19Bunnie XO?

  Well, okay, so before you did that, were you still kind of like trying to, you know, squash down those feelings of being with men or had you already been with a man?

• 24:29Speaker 02

  I hadn't.

• 24:30Bunnie XO?

  You hadn't been with a man yet?

• 24:31Speaker 02

  So I, I don't know if I have or hadn't.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  I can't remember. There's too much to fill in.

• 24:39Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  We're going to, but with therapy, the whole thing with that, like I was talking to my therapist and that was the first person I talked to about the feelings I had. And like, when I was trying to speak it, my body like full fighter flight mode, like I couldn't speak. Like I couldn't speak, like I think I might be attracted to men. Like I could not get it out. I was sweating. And like my body was like shutting down. It's like everything inside me was like not letting me reveal this truth. And it's like, I had to like rip it out of myself. I was like, can you just speak it out? And my therapist was like, no, you're totally fine. You're totally fine. And just like held space for me. And then I got it out. And though I am so egotistical

• 25:19Speaker 02

  and ego driven and I was bringing it up to her, like I'm into guys because I like to de-masculinize them. Like I like to fuck men and like I'm attracted to men that I could like, I see all macho and tough stuff and then I get to fuck them. It's like, that is still a fetish of mine.

• 25:37Bunnie XO?

  I completely understand. I have said it a million times on my podcast. I got into escortings because I got to take men's money. I would rob them. I would tell them when they could touch me, how they could touch me. And this is because I was abused as, as a little girl. So it was me taking my power back. So for you, it was the same thing of you taking your power back.

• 25:56Speaker 02

  That for you. Is healing because I heard someone, I think it was Teal Swan. She talked about the version of healing that everybody thinks it is, is not it. Like healing is to experience the opposite. So if you had an experience where you were taken advantage of and didn't have any control over a sexual situation, to experience a sexual situation where you have all the control, that's healing. Even though people were like, oh, it's fucked up. You stole you this, you that, shut up.

• 26:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  That healed you, that experience was healing.

• 26:25Bunnie XO?

  You are my best, Aliyah.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  I'll fight for you.

• 26:27Bunnie XO?

  I love you.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  I'll literally kill for you.

• 26:29Bunnie XO?

  Literally same. Um, but for you, was that the same experience? Like whenever you finally did get to be with men, was it healing for you? Because you, you were, you know, I don't wanna, I don't, I know this might be the wrong word to use, but you felt so helpless as a child because you were being, I don't wanna, you know, abused by your stepfather. Do you think that might have played a role even younger? Like you didn't have an opinion. You weren't allowed to have an opinion because of being raised in, you know, that lifestyle. So you had to be macho, you had to be manly. So do you think that maybe that in turn kind of like internalized into feelings of what you were starting to feel for other men? And about how you wanted to dominate them and stuff?

• 27:13Speaker 02

  I tried to pick it apart from every angle. I just didn't wanna have to accept that I was gay.

• 27:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:19Speaker 02

  I literally was like, no, I'm not into guys. I just, I wanna look like certain guys. I'm not attracted to them. I just admire certain traits. My therapist was like, that's not typically how it goes. Like she would politely like shut down all the holes I was trying to shoot in my argument of like, I'm a faggot. Like I didn't wanna be, that was like the worst thing I could be for myself and my life.

• 27:39Bunnie XO?

  But it's, it's beautiful though.

• 27:40Speaker 02

  But I was literally like trying to nitpick it. And I was like, am I attracted to them? No, I just like to de-masculinize them. Like, and then I was like, you kind of are attracted to them too. Like I had to like be real with myself.

• 27:53Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  And I finally got to a point where I was like, all right, like I'll just like do shit in private. And like, I started like experimenting and then I started.

• 28:03Bunnie XO?

  Do you remember the first time with a man or no? Were you probably too nervous? And were you getting paid? Was your first time with a man getting paid?

• 28:14Speaker 02

  It wasn't transactional.

• 28:17Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  But I got paid.

• 28:18Bunnie XO?

  Right. Okay.

• 28:21Bunnie XO?

  So you were a sugar baby.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  Basically. So that's my first like situation.

• 28:26Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 28:27Speaker 02

  And like I was.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Okay. So like I met this guy. And this is where my whole coming out part comes. And I haven't talked about any of this.

• 28:36Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  I've talked about my piece of shit ex that I fucking hate. And this is him. But I met this guy online and he was basically like. We, he wants to hang out, but I was like, what the fuck am I gonna get? Like we were on a sugar daddy website.

• 28:52Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  Let's make it clear. I'm not someone that likes gray area.

• 28:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, me either.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  I don't like to bullshit.

• 28:57Bunnie XO?

  Let's get to the point.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  Right.

• 28:58Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  Like if there's a transaction, I want both ends clear.

• 29:01Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 29:02Speaker 02

  So it was basically come fly to Atlanta and hang out with me for the weekend. And he was like, what would you like want to do? Like shopping wise? And I was like, I want a Louis Vuitton backpack. And it was like three K. And I was like, I'm getting a Louis Vuitton backpack. I was like, okay, so we'll hang out. And there was no sex like promise or anything like that. It was just like hang out, see where it goes.

• 29:22Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  And when I got there and we met, it was like.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  The money part was enticing and I knew I was getting a backpack, but. Feelings quickly arose.

• 29:35Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 29:36Speaker 02

  And I was like, this is not a sugar daddy dynamic. This is not. Uh, escort dynamic. This is like weird.

• 29:45Bunnie XO?

  Right. You were attracted to him.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. When we went to the mall.

• 29:50Speaker 02

  His behaviors made him attractive at the time. He wasn't that cute.

• 29:55Speaker 02

  It was my first time.

• 29:56Bunnie XO?

  You're talking about, so.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was my first time like getting close with a guy like that. So I was like overwhelmed like what the fuck?

• 30:02Bunnie XO?

  Able to be your true self.

• 30:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:04Bunnie XO?

  And somebody wasn't judging you.

• 30:07Speaker 02

  So we ended up hanging out over the weekend. It was fun. We went to the mall. I got the backpack.

• 30:13Bunnie XO?

  I love that he loves the backpack. Even now, when you talk about the backpack, your little shoulders get going.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  Like it was my first like.

• 30:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  Reflection of like.

• 30:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  Money. It was like value. It was weird. Cause I was raised very transactional. Like money is what's gonna make you happy. If you don't have money, you have nothing. So I was in school for nursing school at like from eighteen to twenty one. And then I graduated at twenty one and this is when I met this dude.

• 30:40Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 30:41Speaker 02

  So we went to the mall, got the backpack, had sex that night. Because I was feeling it. Like I was like, let's fucking do it. Like we made out and it was just like, all right, let's try it.

• 30:53Speaker 02

  Next day we go back to the mall and he dropped like fifteen thousand more dollars on me. Like a Cartier bracelet, a Versace comforter, like some hoodies, just like anything I wanted. We were just like running around. Like I was giving pretty women a fuck. But I was like, this is fun. But like that high of touching that type shit and like having that lifestyle. I was like, whoa. And then I saw him again and again and again. And I just kept flying to see him like every other weekend. Like I'd go home and work and then I'd go see him. And it was just back and forth. But every time we'd hang out, he was like buying me a bunch of shit. Like anything I wanted, we'd get it. And then we started traveling and doing all these things. But basically how it came to coming out.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  I was traveling to go see this man a lot.

• 31:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  And my sister knew the truth from the get go. She's the only one I told about everything.

• 31:45Bunnie XO?

  She's beautiful, by the way.

• 31:49Bunnie XO?

  She looks like she don't play, though.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  Oh, she's just like me.

• 31:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you could. She has that aura of her.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm the more like fun outgoing one. And she's like, she's fun and outgoing, but she observes first. She's like held back and just like, cool. But then as soon as you like, make her feel comfortable, she'll like open up. But she's just like me.

• 32:10Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  She's awesome. She's very protective, too.

• 32:13Bunnie XO?

  Is she older?

• 32:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:14Bunnie XO?

  We're talking about her like she's not here, but she's sitting right here.

• 32:18Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  So with the whole like traveling a lot, I was like, my parents were starting to be like, what the hell is going on? Like, what are you doing traveling so much?

• 32:27Bunnie XO?

  Were you still living at home?

• 32:28Speaker 02

  With my dad, yes.

• 32:29Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  I was twenty one.

• 32:31Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  And I had just finished nursing school and I was like, I had just gotten my real estate license too. So like I graduated nursing school. I had a week in between when I started my job. So I went to real estate school. And it was like, Eight AM to six PM every day for a week, like Monday through Sunday. And then you take the test, pass the course, and then you go take your test and get the thing, whatever. I got that. And I had a whole trajectory for what my life was gonna be. I was gonna move away. I was gonna do real estate. I was gonna travel nursing. And then I met this dude and it flipped everything. And my parents were kinda like, what the hell's going on like with this guy? Cause they knew it was a guy at this point. I was lying and say it was saying it was a sugar mama. And I was like, oh, I'm going to see a sugar mama.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  And they were like, my mom has never been okay with me like exchanging myself for money.

• 33:19Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  And my dad was kinda like, do what you fucking can.

• 33:23Bunnie XO?

  So this is real dad, not stepdad, right? Okay, so um, to rewind it back, you're very open with your parents then. So your parents know what you were doing with the sugar mamas and stuff. That's amazing, cause I was the same way with my dad. I was kind of, my dad groomed me, I guess, to be in the adult industry. He was like, you know, marry for money and like, you know, that's exactly how my family was too. So I think that's cool that you were able to confide in them and what you were doing.

• 33:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:50Bunnie XO?

  Halfway.

• 33:50Speaker 02

  It's kinda like, me and my sister had each other through everything we were going through. And when your relationship with your parents isn't stable, we had to take care of ourselves.

• 33:58Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  Like they were there to help, but it's like, we raised ourselves, we raised each other and like.

• 34:07Speaker 02

  Where the fuck is I going with that? Oh, the dynamic with my dad and my mom, like telling them things, it's not like, I'm confiding in you. I'm asking for your advice. I'm asking for your help. I'm asking for your permission.

• 34:18Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 34:19Speaker 02

  I don't ask for permission.

• 34:21Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  My sister doesn't either. Like I'm letting you know what I'm doing, cause you asked.

• 34:24Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Like you don't get to control my life if you didn't like participate. Like if you're not there for me, if you're not, my relationship with my parents for a while was like roommate. Well, my, with my dad, it was like roommates. So I was like, there was not really like a dad relationship.

• 34:42Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so there is not like they knew what was going on because they cared. They just knew what was going on because they asked.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, like they did care, but like when parents, like my dad works all the time. And like that's his, like he has his own business and he's always doing that. So like, you don't have time when you're running a big business to, well, big for him, like, should I be talking about this?

• 35:07Speaker 04

  I think they cared enough until like they just as long as we weren't tarnishing their name, they didn't give a fuck. So far we stayed out of trouble. We weren't making them look bad. They didn't give a fuck.

• 35:15Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha. How did they find out that it was a man that you were seeing?

• 35:20Speaker 02

  How? I don't remember. Did we tell them?

• 35:23Speaker 04

  It started when the court where like y'all had the falling out and it went bad. And then you had to come out and tell dad that it was a dude because you were gonna go to court.

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• 37:43Speaker 02

  OK, so I only told my mom it was a guy. Because I'm very, very close with my mom now. Like, she's... My sister and my mom are my two closest people. And my mom...

• 37:59Speaker 02

  I'm way more open and honest with like my dad is like a more distant connection emotionally. My mom is very like, close emotionally. And I was... Like, I sat her down one day and told her basically that I was seeing... It was a sugar daddy, not a sugar mama. And that was my first, like, talking to her about potentially being into guys. So it was a lot for her to take in.

• 38:27Bunnie XO?

  Did she never suspect that?

• 38:30Speaker 02

  Like, everyone had suspected it, but no one, like, really thought. Like, I was very convincing. And I really fucked up the way that I came out to her. Because I was too ego-driven, like I said, to own up to, I have feelings for guys because I thought that would make me

• 38:48Speaker 02

  be disgusting. And like, that's the worst thing you can fucking be is gay. So I was like, I want to be able to, like, be honest about what I'm doing, but not have to take on the shame and the embarrassment. So I was like, yeah, I'm just fucking him for money, though. And my mom was like, OK, that I'm not all right with. And like, her reaction was like...

• 39:11Speaker 02

  She's all for me being gay. She's very accepting. And the day that we had the conversation, I misread it. I thought she was not okay with me being gay. She was not okay with me just fucking a guy for money. She's like, you don't need to be doing this to him. Like if he's over here thinking you actually like him and you're just fucking him for money, that's not fair.

• 39:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 39:34Speaker 02

  I was in a full on relationship with this person. It was not that.

• 39:37Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  I just couldn't take the ego hit. I was like, I'd rather say I'm fucking him for money. So I can live the best of both worlds. I can be in my relationship and my family doesn't think less of me. But that just shows like the dynamic in my head of like, I thought it was better to look like an escort than to be gay.

• 39:54Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  Which like, not that there's wrong with either of them. I could just handle, I'm fucking him for money, not that I genuinely like him.

• 40:00Bunnie XO?

  You weren't accepting it in within yourself that you were gay yet. So it was hard for you to even put that into words.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  So I really hurt my mom in this because I cut her off.

• 40:12Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  Because I thought she wasn't okay with my sexuality. She wasn't okay with what I was saying that I was doing to this guy. And we had like a big like fight about it. And then I cut her off for like three months. And we didn't talk. And then I like, as I was so emotional in my own head and trying to keep up with all these different stories, I misread what my mom was saying. And I feel so bad about that genuinely. But I, after everything calmed down, then I was further along in the relationship. I was thinking about my mom and I was like, Leo, you fucked up.

• 40:45Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  So I had to reach back out to her and like we had a conversation. And she cleared it up that she was, she's totally okay with me being gay. She's fully fucking supportive. And anyone that speaks bad of me now, she's like fist up, like gun out, like say it again. Like she's fully there for me and supports, but like, she cleared it up and was like, my problem was never that you were gay. I don't want you to ever think that.

• 41:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  My problem was that you were one.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  Like looking at yourself like you're something just disposable, you can just exchange for money. And two, like she's like, you're better, like you're worth more than that. And like, if you're gonna be doing it for a couple of bags and some jewelry, be doing it for a house.

• 41:26Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 41:27Speaker 02

  Like, she didn't encourage that, but she's like, don't belittle yourself, like for some little shit, like. And then she was like.

• 41:33Bunnie XO?

  We love mom.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 41:36Speaker 02

  She was like, the fact that you were doing it to him, like I had convinced her, I was like manipulating him.

• 41:41Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 41:41Speaker 02

  Like, I actually liked him and I was just using him for money. And she was like, I was not cool with that.

• 41:46Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 41:46Speaker 02

  And she's like, I'm still not cool with it, but I am okay with you being gay. And then I came clean and was like, well, I'm actually dating him. Like I had to come out and I felt so bad. I was like, I owe my mom the truth. So even if it makes me look like shit, I'm more accepted of it in myself now. So I came clean. I was like, I'm actually dating him. And she was so excited. She's like, oh my God, I want to meet him.

• 42:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 42:06Speaker 02

  And she was like, it makes me feel better that you're not just like using him.

• 42:09Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 42:10Speaker 02

  And so like we reconnected and rekindled and we're tighter than we've ever been. So. I'm very happy about that. She did meet him multiple times. I came, when I moved in to like, when I moved to Atlanta and lived with them, she came and visited. Like it was a very cool thing.

• 42:23Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 42:24Speaker 02

  But I didn't come out to my, my dad still thought I was a sugar mama.

• 42:27Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 42:29Speaker 02

  So I need to drink some water.

• 42:31Bunnie XO?

  Is this where it gets fucked up? Oh, God. I feel so bad. You've been through so much, dude. Like you guys have had a pretty brutal childhood, you know?

• 42:41Speaker 02

  People ask me how I am, the way that I am. And I'm like, there's nothing I haven't been through.

• 42:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  I don't say that lightly.

• 42:47Bunnie XO?

  You're a warrior.

• 42:49Speaker 02

  I don't wanna, I didn't sign up to be God's toughest fucking soldier.

• 42:54Bunnie XO?

  He hands his battle, who's hands that, what is it? He hands his hardest battles to the people who can handle it. I say the same thing. I've been through a lot of shit too. And I'm like, okay, Lord, enough. I've had fucking enough like it. But you know what? My life, as I've gotten older, has gotten smoother. So maybe it just happens in the beginning so that the rest of the ride is just home free, you know?

• 43:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. But when I die and I get to the gates of heaven, I'm swinging.

• 43:17Bunnie XO?

  Ah.

• 43:18Speaker 02

  I don't give a fuck.

• 43:20Bunnie XO?

  Why did you do that to me?

• 43:21Speaker 02

  Everything you wanted to throw at me, there's consequences. Wait till I get up there.

• 43:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 43:25Speaker 02

  I swear to God.

• 43:27Bunnie XO?

  All right. So let's circle back to dad finding out.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  Okay. So when I left my ex.

• 43:35Speaker 02

  Like the most fucked up shit you can do to someone in a relationship, he did. Everything you can think of that could go wrong.

• 43:45Bunnie XO?

  What happened?

• 43:47Speaker 02

  Everything, think of something right now that could go wrong in a relationship.

• 43:51Bunnie XO?

  I mean, abuse.

• 43:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:54Bunnie XO?

  He's like, yeah, that's.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  Physically, emotionally, what else you got?

• 43:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I mean, I don't trying to kill you?

• 43:59Speaker 02

  No.

• 44:00Bunnie XO?

  He didn't try to kill you?

• 44:01Speaker 02

  That would have been easy. Oh, he actually did try to kill me because he did lie to me about having HIV.

• 44:05Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 44:07Speaker 02

  That's something I've never said on the internet.

• 44:09Bunnie XO?

  Wow. So he had HIV. That just made my heart drop. So he had HIV and this was your first experience with a man and he lied to you.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  I asked him before, like, I'm very paranoid about STDs.

• 44:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  Always have been. And I asked him before I met up with him, I was like, you're clean, you have nothing like. He was like, yes, like I'm clean. I'm like, fully like nothing. And

• 44:37Speaker 02

  he never once

• 44:41Speaker 02

  tried to look out for my safety, never once told me to use a condom, never once told me to anything.

• 44:46Bunnie XO?

  That's attempted murder.

• 44:48Speaker 02

  I know. And never told me to get on prep, never like nothing, like never took one precaution for me to like protect myself, like knew what he was doing. He was forty two.

• 45:00Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  Risking a twenty one year old's life.

• 45:02Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  So that was a big component, but when I left him, this you might have to cut out, but he also.

• 45:14Bunnie XO?

  Oh, all right. Well, shit.

• 45:17Speaker 02

  Cut that part out.

• 45:19Bunnie XO?

  Can we bleep it? We'll bleep it.

• 45:25Bunnie XO?

  Is this dude on the internet? Cause now I gotta Google.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  No. He's fucking hidden in a hole somewhere. He's so goddamn scared shitless.

• 45:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, don't protect him. If he's, this man literally jeopardized your fucking life, dude. Were you, did you get tested afterwards and all that stuff?

• 45:40Speaker 02

  I'm still negative. I'm clean. Thank fucking god. I literally was so freaked out after I found out like, I got like a weird like rash from lifting weights too hard. Like I busted like a vessel in my arm and I was like, it's the HIV. I was like, oh my god, I'm dying.

• 45:54Bunnie XO?

  But thankfully HIV is so manageable now and people can live lives with it and it's not like it was back in the fucking eighties. You know, like it's curable now almost, pretty much.

• 46:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's medications to make it dormant.

• 46:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  So like I'm a nurse and I know all the background to all that, but I got on PrEP like just out of fear and every like month I was getting tested. Because it can lay dormant for six months and then just pop up.

• 46:16Bunnie XO?

  For people who don't know.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  PrEP is a medication that basically lowers your chances of contracting HIV. From someone who has it. It's not gonna like take it away.

• 46:25Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 46:25Speaker 02

  But it's better to have like a little like soldier in your bloodstream.

• 46:27Bunnie XO?

  Okay. How long were you guys together?

• 46:31Speaker 02

  Ten months.

• 46:31Bunnie XO?

  Okay. And so you guys have this awful breakup and take me on that ride.

• 46:38Speaker 02

  That I made, I had to make a fucking podcast episode about that.

• 46:42Bunnie XO?

  I need to listen to this podcast episode.

• 46:44Speaker 02

  Episode sixty, my podcast, literally everything you can do to someone in a relationship happened. And then when I left, he tried to destroy me.

• 46:54Bunnie XO?

  Tell everybody your podcast name really quick.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  Aware and aggravated.

• 46:57Bunnie XO?

  Aware and aggravated, episode sixty. Go listen to it right now. Okay.

• 47:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, that one's a lot. And that's kind of like how I got started on social media and all that. But basically he attacked my life in every way that he could. Cause I left him. I was like, I, the money's not enough. You're not enough. You're like, I want to get the fuck away from you.

• 47:14Bunnie XO?

  So let's, I want to talk about that because I've had so many sugar daddies who were so fucking abusive. I'm talking like they think just because they spend money on you that they own you. And I don't think that's talked about a lot, a lot, you know, because we laugh about it and we're like, yeah, being a sugar baby is awesome, blah, blah, blah. But there's also a very dark side to it too. You know, like you have to understand that you don't get all of these things for free and it's not always fucking unicorns and butterflies. Half the time, a lot of these people have like trauma that they've never dealt with, mental illness and just. Shit that they take out on you because they feel like they're paying you and you have to deal with whatever it is they fucking dish out at you.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  Right. That was one of the big things is when I left, we were spending like a hundred thousand dollars a month on anything.

• 47:58Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 47:58Speaker 02

  Clothes, trips, traveling the world, Bora Bora, Paris, like anything we wanted to do, we were doing it. I was, I got access to a lifestyle I've always dreamed of.

• 48:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  And it wasn't enough. And I literally was like, I'm fucking done with you. Like, get the fuck away from me.

• 48:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  Like before I kill you.

• 48:16Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  Cause there, the night that I found out about the HIV thing.

• 48:20Bunnie XO?

  How did you find out?

• 48:21Speaker 02

  Um.

• 48:25Speaker 02

  Sticky story. I'm a Snoopy fuck. I'm nosy. Don't trust no one. It's tattooed on my hair for a reason. Um, I like snooped and found medication and like knew what it was and I, he slipped up.

• 48:36Bunnie XO?

  I'm convinced if I was a man, I would be Leo. Literally, I'm such a violent human too. You have no idea. People don't realize that.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  Best selling merch is my hoodie and t-shirt that say not above violence.

• 48:46Bunnie XO?

  I need that. I'm gonna order it.

• 48:47Speaker 02

  Oh my, I'll literally send you a whole bunch.

• 48:49Bunnie XO?

  Please do. That's a lot, dude, for somebody to, you guys have been together for 10 months and he's just now saying, yes, I risked your life. Was he remorseful? Or was it more like, yeah, I risked your life?

• 49:00Speaker 02

  No, and one of the worst things was he told me everything he was buying from me is because I was worth it. And I was always like, why are you spending so much money on me? Like, it was at a point where like, I didn't even want shit anymore. Like after like three months, I was like, we can slow down. I'm good. I got enough shit. And he just kept pushing and pushing and more and more and would just surprise me with shit. Buy me shit, forced me to go shopping. And I was like, I didn't get it. I was like, why do you keep buying so much? Like, we're together. You've got me. Like, I'm not going anywhere. Like, I thought it was an overcompensation. And he was like, it's because you're worth it. And I just want you to know that. When I found out about the HIV thing, he was not remorseful at all. He immediately flipped and was like, the real reason I've been buying you everything and spending so much money on you

• 49:45Speaker 02

  is because I knew I had HIV. And when you found out, he said, I knew. How guilty you'd feel to get me arrested cuz he saw my heart and he saw how much I care about people and he was like, you're not worth it.

• 50:01Bunnie XO?

  Oh my.

• 50:01Speaker 02

  And was like, I would like, I was looking out for my ass. And he's like, and now you're not gonna go to the cops about it cuz you don't call cops. And I was like, this motherfucker.

• 50:10Bunnie XO?

  Wow, I just got goosebumps. I'm like shaking like.

• 50:14Speaker 02

  But yeah, that was a mind fuck from hell. Like I felt so valuable cuz he was like doing all this for me and was like, I was like, finally someone sees value in me. And then to have that like flip and was like, I was doing it because I knew you'd feel bad. And you wouldn't take me to court if I spend three hundred thousand dollars on you on shit.

• 50:29Bunnie XO?

  What a fucking piece of shit. God, he doesn't have a name. You wanna drop his name? Like he is a piece of shit. Good lord.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's just what like happened in the relationship after the relationship.

• 50:43Bunnie XO?

  Let's get into that. So dad.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  He.

• 50:46Bunnie XO?

  We haven't gotten into how dad found out yet.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  We haven't. That's where we're getting to.

• 50:50Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 50:50Speaker 02

  Okay. So after the relationship ended, he started suing me for anything he could. Defamation of character, domestic abuse, domestic violence, all this shit.

• 51:05Bunnie XO?

  Abuse of power.

• 51:06Speaker 02

  Trying to get me restraining orders against me because I have guns and I carry. And he wanted to get them taken away cuz he's fucking with me and he wants to take my way of protecting myself. I have no physical threat I'm scared of.

• 51:18Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 51:19Speaker 02

  At all.

• 51:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:20Speaker 02

  Like even if there's a group of hundred people and they're trying to attack me, I'm gonna stand there and fight till I die. I'm Albanian. That's how we are.

• 51:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Like I don't fear anything physically. And he was fucking with me in every way that I couldn't defend myself. So like, trying to sue me for anything he could make up, trying to get restraining orders on me, went to the Florida Board of Nursing and submitted false claims with his punk ass, one-legged fucking mom.

• 51:44Bunnie XO?

  Whoa, mom's got one leg.

• 51:46Speaker 02

  Over this bitch.

• 51:46Bunnie XO?

  Goddamn peg leg.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  They fucking went to the Florida Board of Nursing, submitted false claims over me. Why are you laughing?

• 51:55Speaker 02

  One legged fucking bitch.

• 51:57Bunnie XO?

  Big leg Meg.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  I almost took the second one because I was pissed. They falsified claims against me, went to the Florida Board of Nursing. And they were like, he had so much money to pay attorneys to like sue people and sue shit and like get things turned in his favor.

• 52:13Bunnie XO?

  Isn't that disgusting how people can manipulate the judicial system with money?

• 52:17Speaker 02

  It just starts there.

• 52:18Bunnie XO?

  Fucking disgusting.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  So. He and his little fucking.

• 52:24Bunnie XO?

  I'm so mad. I'm like shaking.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  I'm sweating again.

• 52:26Bunnie XO?

  No, I'm pissed.

• 52:27Speaker 02

  So they went and submitted false claims to the Florida Board of Nursing. They put my license under review and they launched an investigation on me for six months, but when I moved and left him, I went from spending a hundred thousand dollars a month, never worrying about money again, to going back to making three, four K a month as a nurse. And I was like back working and that mind flip and that reality shift. What the fuck? You've experienced it.

• 52:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah.

• 52:53Speaker 02

  Like that's when you're with someone with a lot of money like that, the meaning of money and what it is doesn't matter.

• 52:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  Like I was spending like three hundred bucks on a fucking Louis Vuitton keychain and buying five of them because I like them.

• 53:04Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 53:04Speaker 02

  Going back to working as a nurse and making three hundred bucks a shift for twelve hours.

• 53:08Bunnie XO?

  It made me go harder. It made me figure out like what I had to do, you know, like I was like, I'm, I want to have that feeling again, but happiness.

• 53:16Speaker 02

  On my own.

• 53:16Bunnie XO?

  On my own. Exactly.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  And now I got it.

• 53:19Bunnie XO?

  Yes. And it makes you go harder to figure out, okay, well, what can I do to fucking get there without having to fucking be abused by somebody?

• 53:26Speaker 02

  Yes. So everything going on in court is how my, I had to go to my dad. I was like, I don't know what to do. I didn't have money. Like to spend for attorneys.

• 53:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 53:35Speaker 02

  Cause like. They were big cases and big things. He was like bringing it up against me.

• 53:38Bunnie XO?

  That's huge. Those accusations are crazy.

• 53:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I had to go to my dad. I was like, dad, I have to be honest because I need help. Like. I called him. After I'm like, when I left my ex, I was literally like driving home at like two in the morning or three in the morning because we got in a big fight. He called the cops on me. And I just peeled the fuck out and took off and drove four and a half hours back to Florida. And I called my dad and I was like, dad, can I please move back in? And he was like, of course, like, of course. That's one thing about my dad.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  My sexuality, we don't talk about it. We don't address it. It's don't ask, don't tell. He still asks me if I talk to girls, if I've hooked up with girls. We just avoid that topic, but my safety, he will always care about, like making sure I'm okay. No one's gonna do nothing like to me without him getting involved. So he was like, of course, come home, come home. And like I drove home and he helped me unpack all my shit. He was like getting up for work at like seven AM when I was getting there. And he like helped me and I just like went to bed. He was like, just go to sleep and just wake up, eat good and we'll figure it out tomorrow. I was like, okay, so I moved back in with my dad and then I had to come clean and I was like, it was a guy I was with and now he's suing me. For like all these things. This was a couple of days after being home, because it was like just a shit show.

• 54:56Bunnie XO?

  And your ex knew that you hadn't come out to your dad, right? So he just didn't care. He was just out to destroy you.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I came out to my dad about that. I was like, it was a guy, but I, he was like, did you care about him? And I was like, I don't know.

• 55:11Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:11Speaker 02

  So I was still kind of playing that thing with my dad of like, it was just an exchange, like a monetary exchange. And my dad was like trying to help me with attorneys and shit, but literally no one like knew what to do.

• 55:24Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:24Speaker 02

  So I had to represent myself in court. I started studying law and doing my shit, but my nursing license was under review.

• 55:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  And I couldn't work as a nurse. So I started partying a lot. And I tried drugs for the first time. Like the weekend I drove home, that weekend, like it was like a Tuesday, that weekend. I had never smoked a cigarette. I had never done a drug. I had barely been drunk and I did coke, molly and got shitfaced drunk in the first night, all at once. I had so much fucking fun.

• 56:04Bunnie XO?

  You were hurt though.

• 56:05Speaker 02

  No, bitch, I had a blast. I didn't give a fuck. I was in a house full of rich people and I was like, let's do this shit. So I had a blast with it. And then I started like partying very hard to like cope with my life and like everything he was doing to me. Like defaming me online, bought leoskeppy.com and like trashed me on it, made up all this bullshit. This is before I was online.

• 56:26Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 56:26Speaker 02

  And like ripped me, but I was just like partying and I started like.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  Doing more drugs. I loved coke. I had a gold acrylic pinky nail.

• 56:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh, nice.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  For like months.

• 56:37Bunnie XO?

  Loved it. I used to do eight balls by myself. It was crazy. Eight balls and Xanax was my shit.

• 56:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I had I had the Xanax kick.

• 56:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:45Speaker 02

  But you have to weigh it out. It's like you do too much coke. It's like, I need a Xanax.

• 56:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  Now I need a shot. Oh, now I'm too drunk. I need a fucking bump.

• 56:51Bunnie XO?

  Dude, it's a fucking roller coaster, man.

• 56:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:53Bunnie XO?

  Trying to even the shit out.

• 56:54Speaker 02

  Got into like doing drugs and partying. And then I was like picking up for my friends. When I would pick up and I would get enough for them. And then I started realizing like. I would go to a party and everybody knew I could like float the initial like thousand dollars for everything everybody wanted. To like make sure everybody got their shit. Like, nobody else was like able to, out of my closer friends, like no one was able to like front the cost to like buy it. So like I, I've always been smart with money. And I like fronted it and I saw. How much money can be made there?

• 57:33Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 57:34Speaker 02

  And I was like, here's my way out. So I started dealing drugs.

• 57:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  And I was the Molly man. And everybody knew I had the good coke and the good Molly.

• 57:45Speaker 02

  And I just started doing that, but I never did anything reckless with dealing drugs. I had this.

• 57:51Bunnie XO?

  Were you still using while you were dealing?

• 57:53Speaker 02

  Oh, hell, yeah. That whole don't get high on your own supply. My shit was good.

• 57:57Bunnie XO?

  He was like, yes, I was getting high.

• 57:59Speaker 02

  Like, as I'm like packing people, I always like packed it pretty in a little Ziploc bag. I didn't do the fucking foil. I don't like that. But like I have my little nail just while I'm going to keep me going, like packing it up. And.

• 58:09Bunnie XO?

  Do you still use?

• 58:11Speaker 02

  Here and there.

• 58:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 58:12Speaker 02

  But now I'm at a point.

• 58:15Speaker 02

  I'm so scared to die.

• 58:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And now you can't trust. Well, that's one thing you can't come back from. You can get your ass whooped, but you know, you get a batch of bad shit and. You know, you're not coming back from that.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:29Bunnie XO?

  So.

• 58:29Speaker 02

  Like I went from fully like not giving a fuck if I died, wanted to die, to like now, it's so weird. People don't like to talk about this. Like now. I have an insane fear of flying. I'm scared to do certain drugs unless I know they're fucking good.

• 58:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 58:42Speaker 02

  I'm like so paranoid of everything.

• 58:44Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my biggest fear is death. I used to be the same as you. I thought I was bulletproof. And then like the older I got, I was just like, um, I'm not immortal and I'm not. You know, bulletproof, like, anything can happen at any time, you know?

• 58:57Speaker 02

  That was the thing is like, I didn't care if I died. I wanted to die.

• 58:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 59:00Speaker 02

  So I just lived reckless.

• 59:01Bunnie XO?

  You're happy now, though.

• 59:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:03Bunnie XO?

  In a place of happiness.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  And I'm like-

• 59:04Bunnie XO?

  So now you're scared to lose it.

• 59:05Speaker 02

  Achieving everything I've wanted and I'm like hitting my potential and I'm like, oh, now I'm like un- I'm like shaky as fuck. I'm like, like, I don't, it's hard to function.

• 59:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 59:14Speaker 02

  When you have to flip like that.

• 59:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 59:16Speaker 02

  But with selling drugs and all that, one little part of it is I never did anything reckless. I was never stupid. I would never sell to broke people.

• 59:21Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 59:22Speaker 02

  I would sell to rich people.

• 59:23Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  And being a nurse, I made connections with like a bunch of doctors and engineers.

• 59:28Bunnie XO?

  People don't realize that doctors abuse drugs more than anybody I know. I used to have this, this client who was an emergency room fucking doctor. I've never told this story before. We were getting fucked up doing blow one night and I asked him, I was like, what is the coolest thing to you about being an emergency room doctor? And he said, looked at me, did the biggest fucking line of coke and he said, I get to play God. I was like, oh, fucking K. I still get goosebumps fucking thinking about it. I was like, I just remember I looked at him high as shit and I was like, I'm never going to the emergency room again. I was like, this is fucked up. And I've never forgot that, dude, but you know, motherfuckers in the medical field get fucked up.

• 1:00:07Speaker 02

  They are the biggest druggies and I love them for it. They put me in business. I made so much fucking money. But I had a thing with like all the people that I knew, like, they invite me to the party. They genuinely wanted to hang out with me, but when I started like dealing and getting them shit, they were like, oh, fuck, come to the party, supply the party. I said, okay, minimum a thousand if I'm coming.

• 1:00:25Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:00:26Speaker 02

  But you gotta buy a thousand dollars worth of shit. They'd buy three, five thousand, like they'd just have people and they were just like, oh, I need more for later. And I would just like go show up to the party, hang out, party with everybody, give everybody their shit, make my money and then party.

• 1:00:39Bunnie XO?

  And then, yeah.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  It was so fun.

• 1:00:41Bunnie XO?

  Figured it out. Um, so rewinding real quick, when your dad found out that it was a guy, was he upset like, or was he like, okay, I've got your back. I'm gonna help you.

• 1:00:51Speaker 02

  He had my back and was gonna help me, but he was just like, okay, it is what it is. It happened. Like, you got money out of it. You got your shit. All right, now let's just be done with it. Fuck him.

• 1:00:58Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  Like him was trying to help me detach from it all.

• 1:01:01Bunnie XO?

  Hmm, good.

• 1:01:02Speaker 02

  And get away from it.

• 1:01:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, love that. That's so fucked up that that dude put you through that, dude. Like, that's crazy. So let's keep going. You fucking are dealing drugs now. You're the life of the party. This dude's still fucking doing weird shit. Did you ever represent yourself in court?

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  Three times.

• 1:01:17Bunnie XO?

  Okay, let me hear about that.

• 1:01:18Speaker 02

  I won every time.

• 1:01:19Bunnie XO?

  Fuck, yeah. Fuck, yeah.

• 1:01:22Speaker 02

  I'm a manipulative fuck. I'm a Pisces.

• 1:01:25Bunnie XO?

  But you're also fighting for your life. So is that being manipulative? This person was literally coming against you online and fucking smearing your name.

• 1:01:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:34Bunnie XO?

  All he backed you into a corner and he fucked around and found out.

• 1:01:37Speaker 02

  I never like beat him and that's my biggest regret in this life. Is not absolutely pummeling this punk fucking bitch into the ground.

• 1:01:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but that didn't happen for a reason.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  I'm gonna get him in hell. I'm gonna get him when I go to hell. I'm that hatred is never gonna come out of me. Like that is my only regret in this life is not swinging on people. Sooner when I used to get bullied. I wish I would have started beating ass a lot sooner. And then not ever beating the fuck out of him.

• 1:02:03Bunnie XO?

  No, I get it.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  So I never like hit him, but he would like slap me and shit. And I'm like, you don't know what you're fucking doing.

• 1:02:08Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:02:09Speaker 02

  Like if you smack me like.

• 1:02:11Bunnie XO?

  You're like, oh, that's cute. Yeah. Oh, that's cute.

• 1:02:13Speaker 02

  So where are we going with that?

• 1:02:15Bunnie XO?

  Um, so you had to represent yourself in court three times.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  So there were things that I did and I would own up to it in court and he was like, he had a black eye one time because we were fucking. And he like reached up and grabbed my nipples and twisted them.

• 1:02:31Bunnie XO?

  Ow.

• 1:02:32Speaker 02

  And like pulled them.

• 1:02:33Bunnie XO?

  Nothing about that feels good.

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  And I fell onto him and like when I put my hand down to catch myself, my thumb like. I'm big as fuck. I'm two hundred. I was like two hundred and forty pounds at the time. Like I'm big and like me coming down on you. I was like, what the fuck? And like I put my hand down to catch myself and I hit him in the eye. And it like, the blood vessels around your eye are very sensitive. So he got a black eye. It looked like I like hit him, but I didn't.

• 1:02:58Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  He tried to come out with a story and take me to court that I hit him and I went in court. I was like, okay, your honor. I hate to be explicit, but we were having sex. And I told her like what happened.

• 1:03:10Bunnie XO?

  I bet the judge loved you.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  The judge like, I'm very honest.

• 1:03:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:14Speaker 02

  Every time I fought in school, fought and had to deal with cops, dealt with this shit in court.

• 1:03:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  I'm very honest about what I'll, what I do.

• 1:03:21Bunnie XO?

  Can tell.

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  I'm like, I did hit him this time. I didn't hit him that time. Now what?

• 1:03:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:28Speaker 02

  And they just like. Dismissed that shit because they knew it was so stupid.

• 1:03:33Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy. So did you ever have to take out anything on him? Like a restraining order, like fucking stop slandering my name online and all that shit?

• 1:03:41Speaker 02

  I tried.

• 1:03:42Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:03:43Speaker 02

  And things were avoided because he had money.

• 1:03:48Bunnie XO?

  Cause he had what?

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  Money.

• 1:03:49Bunnie XO?

  Money.

• 1:03:50Speaker 02

  Right. So.

• 1:03:53Bunnie XO?

  Well, moving on from that, what's Leo doing now? You won your court case.

• 1:03:57Speaker 02

  My best.

• 1:03:57Bunnie XO?

  Yay. Let's talk about it. We love an underdog story. I love this. So you go through all this fucking shit. What happens now? Are you still dealing drugs? Are you?

• 1:04:09Speaker 02

  I wish.

• 1:04:10Bunnie XO?

  Getting on.

• 1:04:11Speaker 02

  I have too much to lose now. I would still be in the game.

• 1:04:13Bunnie XO?

  Well, take me, take me on this journey now of Leo conquering, kicking ass.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  I love it. Okay. So I started my podcast. I started getting online because like I said, he slandered me online.

• 1:04:25Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:04:26Speaker 02

  So like he had this reputation built of me of like just this absolute piece of shit.

• 1:04:30Bunnie XO?

  An online personality?

• 1:04:32Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:04:32Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:04:33Speaker 02

  He like basically defamed me and like made this reputation for me. And I didn't have money to fight it. And once people have a certain perception of you, you can't change it. So I had the realization like the only way to change people's perception is to show them who I truly am. So I started getting online. I was like, I'm gonna be so myself, just genuine, straight up me. And show people my heart, my intentions, my humor, the times I am an asshole. Like I'm just gonna show it all because it will make all those claims become so clearly invalid.

• 1:05:08Bunnie XO?

  Right. Were people believing him? Did he have a, an audience that actually believed him?

• 1:05:13Speaker 02

  Not really.

• 1:05:14Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  It was before I got online. So like every job I would try to apply for, things I would do and like friends, people in my life were finding it. Like you look up Leo Skepi, boom, first thing.

• 1:05:23Bunnie XO?

  Does he still own Leo Skepi?

• 1:05:25Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:05:25Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Do you have it? Good.

• 1:05:28Speaker 02

  Don't ask how I got it.

• 1:05:29Bunnie XO?

  I'm not, I'm not going to.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  I like came out of hiding, basically. Like, I was like, this name that was built for me can, I can just hide from it. Or I can blow it the fuck out of the water by like being bigger than that. So I just got online and started being myself and I made my podcast. And all the things that I was going through, I was like sharing how I dealt with it because like therapists couldn't help me. Literally, no one knew what to do to help me and I couldn't find answers. So I just started sharing all that through my podcast. And I got on TikTok and I started fucking around. People love my personality.

• 1:06:01Bunnie XO?

  When did you get on TikTok, like twenty twenty, twenty twenty one?

• 1:06:04Speaker 02

  Twenty twenty one, when I was going through court. I started making jokes. Like, I literally was in court one time. And I pulled out my phone and I was like, here I am in court because my ex is fucking psychotic and like couldn't handle losing me. And everybody like it blew up and everybody was like, oh, my God, he's funny as hell. So everybody was kind of invested in it. So I just like started like talking shit. Then he was trying to sue me for those videos and I was like, eat my dick. I literally told his attorney and three of them, three attorneys he hired, I told them all to eat my dick at least once.

• 1:06:32Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  Um, pretty sure they would want to.

• 1:06:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:37Speaker 02

  That's one thing I do is I be throwing around the word faggot like it's nothing.

• 1:06:40Bunnie XO?

  I love it because I came from an era where that word wasn't what it means now, you know? So like even like the R word, you know, like we use dude. The R word, the, you know, I, I can't say it because people come for me all the fucking time.

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're me in a female body.

• 1:06:57Bunnie XO?

  But, you know, people fucking they, everybody's so fucking sensitive now and it's just crazy to me. I think it's intention. How you say the word is intention, you know, like that's how you guys should judge when people say certain words, like what is the intention behind it? How are they directing it? Describing yourself and like joking around. You're not like looking at somebody calling them that being rude.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  Oh, I'll do that, too.

• 1:07:19Bunnie XO?

  I know you will.

• 1:07:19Speaker 02

  With me, like I was bullied so bad over the word faggot and it used to hurt me so bad. So it's like now.

• 1:07:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:25Speaker 02

  I don't give a fuck. I'll fling it around. Whether it's derogatory or a joke.

• 1:07:29Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:07:30Speaker 02

  Well, like if someone else, I'm very protective of people. Like if someone else calls someone a faggot.

• 1:07:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:34Speaker 02

  Nah, it's a problem.

• 1:07:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  I could do it, not you.

• 1:07:36Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:07:36Speaker 02

  Because I know I'm not trying to hurt them.

• 1:07:38Bunnie XO?

  Exactly. Intention.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  But. Where were we going with the?

• 1:07:41Bunnie XO?

  We were talking about just how you fucking built, rose from the ashes like a goddamn phoenix, baby.

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like a dragon, I'm spitting fire on these bitches.

• 1:07:50Bunnie XO?

  Just fucking coming up. So you got on TikTok and you started your podcast and then just shit just started going from there?

• 1:07:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I started the app Positive Focus. It's like a app for your phone that will send you positive quotes like throughout the day. Like really, there's a lot of apps that are kind of like that, but it's like bullshit. I made things that would actually flip your perspective. Cause like when I was going through a lot of like of the worst stuff, it's hard to think positive about anything. So I was like, if I could just have an app that would like send me something to think about.

• 1:08:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:19Speaker 02

  I don't want to have to put effort into thinking positive, like just prompt me on my phone and I'm fine. So I made it because I couldn't find it. And.

• 1:08:26Bunnie XO?

  I love your mentality.

• 1:08:27Speaker 02

  I did that and I used the drug money to fund it because it was like thirty K.

• 1:08:31Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I used all my hooker money to build this.

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  Word?

• 1:08:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you got to, baby.

• 1:08:35Speaker 02

  We are the same.

• 1:08:36Bunnie XO?

  Literally, no, I swear it's scary.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  So I made that, got on social media, got on TikTok, started my podcast. And then in the past, I'd say

• 1:08:48Speaker 02

  three months since like February, everything has like

• 1:08:53Bunnie XO?

  snowballed.

• 1:08:54Speaker 02

  Tripled.

• 1:08:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  Like my, I gained like two million followers. Well, I gained like a million in the past month and a half. I gained like a hundred thousand on YouTube in the past month and a half. My Instagram has grown like a hundred and fifty thousand. Or like a hundred and seventy thousand in the past like month and a half. It's like, finally, the value I'm sharing is being recognized. And I'm like, I've never doubted myself once. I'm like, these motherfuckers are just stupid. And they want to listen to Jay Shetty and Mel Robbins and all these people.

• 1:09:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:24Speaker 02

  Not that I don't like them.

• 1:09:24Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  But they just, there's surface level self-help.

• 1:09:27Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:09:28Speaker 02

  I got the real shit.

• 1:09:29Bunnie XO?

  Right. Like you've been through shit. I feel like a lot of self-help people haven't been through a lot of deep shit. They just like woke up one day and were like, I just want to be a self-help guru, you know, and like they just start.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  Wake up and start your day with a lemon water.

• 1:09:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:09:43Speaker 02

  Journal.

• 1:09:43Bunnie XO?

  Go sit in the sun.

• 1:09:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, for sure.

• 1:09:47Speaker 02

  Like, they're not realistic.

• 1:09:48Bunnie XO?

  Um, so you have this app, you like, what is in store for Leo? Like, tell us, what do we have to look forward to? Like, any cool news that we can talk about?

• 1:09:58Speaker 02

  Actually, I do have some big news. Do you know the agency UTA?

• 1:10:03Bunnie XO?

  I don't.

• 1:10:04Speaker 02

  Okay. They're one of the biggest agencies.

• 1:10:09Bunnie XO?

  I just signed with WME, so I know like WME, CAA.

• 1:10:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:10:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  The past three weeks, everything's been blowing up. I've been charting on the podcast.

• 1:10:20Speaker 02

  All these companies have been reaching out to me. I've been having meetings out the ass. My manager and me are both like overwhelmed. I'm a one man team and that's something people don't realize. Like, everything that I do is by myself. As of two months ago, I started working with my manager. But everything I do, produce, make film is all me. No one edits shit. I do it, I'm picky.

• 1:10:38Bunnie XO?

  Same, it's just me and Mimi. We just hired on WME in January.

• 1:10:43Speaker 02

  I love it. So they saw, like, every company has, like, seen me blowing up. And everybody wants a piece of it now and they want to like, help me and like, help me. They see me as a fucking check. I don't forget that, I'm stupid. So all these companies-

• 1:10:57Bunnie XO?

  They also probably see your worth, too.

• 1:10:59Speaker 02

  That too.

• 1:10:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  So a lot of these companies have been like, fighting for me. And I've had meetings with every agency you could think, like, WME, I had a meeting with them.

• 1:11:08Bunnie XO?

  I need to introduce you to my agent, Sloan. You would fall in love with her and she is a fucking go getter. She is a goddamn tiger. Like, she's crazy, yeah. I'll definitely hook you guys up, so you guys can chat.

• 1:11:19Speaker 02

  Yes, I love making connections like that.

• 1:11:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, she's amazing.

• 1:11:22Speaker 02

  This whole world, like, just flew open for me and I didn't realize this much goes into it. So I just signed with UTA two days ago. So like, they're fully, like, about to take over and like, everything I want to do, I finally have a team of people who can make it happen. I don't have to be the one making all these businesses and doing all this shit. I'm sick of it.

• 1:11:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:46Speaker 02

  I'm sick of it. I did-

• 1:11:48Bunnie XO?

  It's scary giving up control, because I'm in that right now. I have to hire, yeah.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  I'm under so much pressure, I'm just like-

• 1:11:53Bunnie XO?

  Me, I'm kind of like, oh, I don't know, you know? Like, I just, it scares me because we've done for five years, I've, it's just been me and Mimi. So bringing all these other people in, I'm just scared because it's like, nobody sees your vision the way that you do. You know, the first fuck up, I'm like, you're out of here.

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  Same, I'm very cutthroat.

• 1:12:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, same.

• 1:12:11Speaker 02

  Cause I'm a perfectionist and I don't tolerate nothing less. But when I was growing on social media, a lot of people liked my podcast and asked me to start like, can I work with you one on one? Can you coach me? And I was like, okay, so I got my life coach certification and just started like one on one coaching people. In the past three months, I haven't had time. Like I've literally had to take a break from it to reposition everything.

• 1:12:34Bunnie XO?

  That's your feel good, like you.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love doing that. But I'm at a point now, there's thousands of people trying to sign up for it. I don't have time. And I'm trying to stabilize everything with my career first and then get that bar incorporated. I don't know how the hell I'm gonna do it. But I'm gonna figure it out. But I signed with UTA and like they're the biggest. They only have like two hundred and something people. They signed Paris Hilton, fucking Alexander Cooper, Emma Chamberlain, Bretman Rock. Like they sign all these big ass people.

• 1:13:05Bunnie XO?

  So Leo, you just signed with UTA and you guys are gonna just start working your asses off. Is there anything else that you wanna tell us about that's gonna happen in twenty twenty three?

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  So I'm looking at doing live events, like live podcasts.

• 1:13:19Bunnie XO?

  We should, dude, we are looking into that too. So and thinking about doing a tour and I would love to have you come on a couple.

• 1:13:25Speaker 02

  Oh my god, absolutely.

• 1:13:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that would be awesome.

• 1:13:28Speaker 02

  Did you get the pink bus?

• 1:13:29Bunnie XO?

  I, of course.

• 1:13:31Bunnie XO?

  Dude, you can come, come out on the road. The boys would love you.

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  You have one that'll fit me on six seven.

• 1:13:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh, for sure. Yeah, it's a big ass fucking bus.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 1:13:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but um, so you're thinking about doing live events?

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  Live events. I'm gonna start another segment to my podcast where I start incorporating guests. And like influencers, celebrities and talking about deep things and unpacking shit the way that I do, which I think will be fun.

• 1:14:00Speaker 02

  That, the live events thing, and then I'm in the process of creating a vitamin line.

• 1:14:04Bunnie XO?

  Oh dope.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  And it's not the typical vitamin line. I'm very big on if you do something to damage your body, do something to help it. So I smoke, I drink, I do drugs sometimes. Like if I roll, I have a lot of vitamins that I take to like help with the come down. I have a lot of vitamins I take before and after I drink. I have vitamins I take daily for my lungs. So that's what the vitamin line is gonna be based around is I was gonna name it Damage Control. That was already trademarked, but the name.

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  Is the new name is being trademarked. I'll tell it to you off camera.

• 1:14:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

• 1:14:38Speaker 02

  But like, that's a big thing I'm so excited about.

• 1:14:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's really cool.

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  Because no one has the platform to do it. Like, no one has the balls to release some shit like that.

• 1:14:45Bunnie XO?

  No, I love that.

• 1:14:46Speaker 02

  So I'm doing it.

• 1:14:46Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I'm so proud of you.

• 1:14:49Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:14:49Bunnie XO?

  I really am. Like, and I just love seeing you shed your light on people and just even though you have some really dark situations that have happened in your life, you have chose to spread light. You know, no matter how macho you are and egotistical or whatever, you're still just a loving human.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:15:05Bunnie XO?

  And I think that's really fucking rad. So I'm just so happy to have had you on.

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:15:09Bunnie XO?

  Thank you so much for coming, Leo. Why don't you shout out where everybody can find you?

• 1:15:13Speaker 02

  Okay, TikTok is LeoSkeppy. Instagram is TheLeoSkeppy, because some fucking rat already took my name. And then my podcast is called Aware and Aggravated. It's on YouTube. You can watch the video version. And then it's on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

• 1:15:26Bunnie XO?

  Yay. I love you so much, Leo. You are my new BFF, by the way.

• 1:15:31Speaker 02

  Y'all heard it here first.

• 1:15:32Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  Everybody, get out of her fucking DMs.

• 1:15:34Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. Thank you, guys, for tuning into another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.