Chelsea Handler Pt 2: How to Be Yourself Unapologetically, Find Your Light & Raise Your Vibration!

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• 0:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  Get ready to laugh, cry, and raise your vibration in more ways than one. If you're ready to release and free yourself of shame, stop taking yourself so seriously and feel more joy right now. I am so excited you're here for this incredible Part Two episode with award-winning super talent Chelsea Handler, who opens up in ways she's never opened up before and shares things she's never shared before, including real, raw, and honest ways to live your best life now. If you're ready to live life on your own terms and feel that freedom of finally being who you truly are,

• 0:45Jamie Kern Lima?

  confidently and unapologetically, then today's episode is truly going to change your life.

• 0:53Speaker 01

  I feel very free.

• 0:55Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 0:55Speaker 01

  I feel free. I don't feel beholden to anyone. It's about feeling free enough to be who you are and know that you're lovable. I have come to a place in my life where there is no shame in my game. You have to believe in yourself. You have to believe in yourself if anyone else is going to believe in you.

• 1:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  Mmm, yeah, yeah.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  And sometimes you have to be that for another person. You have to tell someone, "I believe in you" when you see someone down or you see someone struggling.

• 1:28Jamie Kern Lima?

  Do you believe in God? You said that you believe that Roe v. Wade being overturned was a result of the Me Too movement.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42Jamie Kern Lima?

  You professed your interest in having sex with then-New York City Governor Andrew Cuomo. You guys ended up on a phone call and then sexting.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  I was talking to Joy Behar and Whoopi, I think it was. And I said, "I would like to be penetrated by the governor of New York." Three days went by and then I heard from him. And I was just like, "Oh, my God, I can't believe this is happening. I'm gonna become the first lady of New York." He was just very flirty. He liked it.

• 2:09Jamie Kern Lima?

  Did you ever send pictures or anything back and forth?

• 2:12Speaker 01

  Yes, I sent pictures. And I pulled the top down of my bikini and I was like, "And my brother Roy is taking the picture of me." And I'm sure he probably had to delete that.

• 2:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  He made a poster out of it.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:22Jamie Kern Lima?

  Did he ever send any photos back? Did he like sext back? You were popping edibles to meet former President Bush.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  I was very stoned when I met the former President of the United States, George W. Bush, and I told him so. I let him know that I was indeed very, very stoned, and he was very cute about it.

• 2:43Jamie Kern Lima?

  Do you try to avoid spending time around people who completely don't agree with what you agree with?

• 2:52Speaker 01

  I can't really spend time around conspiracy theorists. That's a level that I'm not willing to expose. I don't need that energy around me.

• 3:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  I find that to be very low vibes.

• 3:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  You know the earth is flat, right?

• 3:05Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. By the way, I thought that for a long time, too.

• 3:09Jamie Kern Lima?

  Did you?

• 3:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I thought the moon and the sun were the same thing for a long time. I'm a late bloomer. Anything involving science?

• 3:17Jamie Kern Lima?

  I knew this. I knew this. You thought the earth and the sun were the same thing?

• 3:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:21Jamie Kern Lima?

  And what age were you?

• 3:22Speaker 01

  Forty, forty.

• 3:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  In your book, you say drugs are for me.

• 3:26Speaker 01

  I love drugs. I love edibles. I love smoking pot. I love LSD microdosing. I love mushroom microdosing. I understand drugs are not for everyone. They are for me.

• 3:38Jamie Kern Lima?

  How often do you do them?

• 3:40Speaker 01

  Oh. When you are working in concert with the universe, and you are happy, and you choose happiness, and you choose optimism, everything in life becomes easier.

• 3:52Jamie Kern Lima?

  And you feel it?

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Yes. What kind of person do you want to be? Do you want to be putting out the good vibes or the negative vibes? And the negativity is very infectious, and it can feel really good, and the payoffs can feel really good in the moment, gossiping and being mean-spirited about someone that you both don't like, and duh, duh, duh. But that's not where I... I will not ever spend my time doing that in this life again. If anyone can hustle, I can hustle. So I welcome it and I'm grateful for the opportunity to come up here and sit down with you. I'm not like, "Oh God, I gotta go drive up to Montecito." No, it's the opposite. It's like, I can't wait to go have an incredible conversation with this amazing woman.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  And then I get to your house and I'm blown away by this whole thing. Like, how happy-making is it?

• 4:42Jamie Kern Lima?

  I have to say, when I first met you, it was like, one thing after another was so positive. Like, you're emitting that high vibration, about whatever the circumstance is.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:51Jamie Kern Lima?

  Which is such a beautiful thing to witness.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Well, I haven't always been this way.

• 4:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  And I'm not in a cult. For anyone who's listening, it's like, this is a little too positive?

• 5:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  No, it's just, I've learned the effects of being positive. And it's just like a ripple effect. And it makes people in your life happy. What I'm really looking for is like, a spiritual connection. Like, I wanna love you up and I wanna be loved up. And there's nothing else I need from you. A lot of men have a really hard time with that. Female empowerment benefits us all. All ships rise with the tide. So when women do well, men actually do better. As women, that's not going to diminish our success. We might feel a little bit less protected by the country. But women are crushing it. And nothing is ever gonna stop that.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Which is why they're so scared in the first place. We have to even get stronger and more connected and help more people. You will not tamp down women. I have more faith in women than I do in men. So, we are not going anywhere.

• 5:59Jamie Kern Lima?

  And I don't know if you're joking or not, but about this idea of men going extinct. Do you think that that is something that will ever happen?

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Parthenogenesis is when females are able to procreate without male sperm. And it's happened to a few different species. It's happened to an anaconda. It happened to a condor. We are evolutionarily 1,000 years behind animals. So, if men don't clean up their act, we're not gonna even need them to make fucking babies at one point, okay? We're already able to do it without a penis. You know what I mean? So I would really recommend everyone getting their acts together before they do become extinct.

• 6:36Jamie Kern Lima?

  Speaking of penises, in your book,

• 6:40Jamie Kern Lima?

  one of my favorite parts, of many favorite parts. Oh, it's so good, Chelsea.

• 6:48Jamie Kern Lima?

  Jamie Kern Lima is her name.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life. Jamie Kern Lima.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  Jamie, you're so inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima.

• 7:02Jamie Kern Lima?

  When you think about the idea of success leaves clues, when you think about why so many people

• 7:11Jamie Kern Lima?

  are not just fans of your work, but are fans of you, I believe, tell me if you agree with this, I believe that in addition to, obviously, your talent, in addition to all that,

• 7:25Jamie Kern Lima?

  you're one of, and I'm going to say the few people, who are willing to just fully be who they are. Like, whether it comes to judgment or anything else. Like, you share who you are. You say, "I sleep with my ski instructor." And you say, "I did LSD today." And you say, like, you're fully who you are. And I think that allows people to connect with you. Do you think that's true?

• 7:56Speaker 01

  I feel very free.

• 7:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 7:58Speaker 01

  I feel free. I don't feel beholden to anyone.

• 8:02Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  I don't feel beholden. The way that I've put my life together, like, if I think about the things that I'm doing, okay, so I have my book is coming out. I have my special that's coming out next month. I have my podcast that I do all the time. And I'm on tour. I have a residency. All of those things, I am only accountable to myself. No one gives me notes on any of that. I don't have a boss. I'm my boss. Right? So, the sense of freedom that I feel is because I have self-generated so much freedom in my career, understanding how important it is to trust your gut, make your own decisions,

• 8:46Speaker 01

  And fly freely, like you're not gonna smack my hand and tell me what I can and cannot do. I'm not going to allow that on behalf of women. It's not even just about me. Like, I feel like it's about so much more than that. And so, when I think about the things and like, you know, people are go, why don't you act more? I would love to act. I would love to do something like that. But it has to be under the understanding that I'm always gonna be the person I am. Like, no one's in charge of me ever, you know what I mean? What I'm gonna bring is gonna be valuable. And when you recognize that, then that's gonna be the right project for me, you know? I don't want... And the reason I'm so forthcoming about my personal life, and I like what you said,

• 9:30Speaker 01

  because it's not a judgment when people aren't that way, or people are private. That's... I used to be like, God, everyone's so uptight and so insecure. It's really not about that. It's about feeling free enough to be who you are and know that you're lovable. And that honesty is a lovable, beautiful thing. And so, just to keep dishing it out, you know? My... The reason why people... I have a fan base and why I have a career is obviously because of my fans. And I'm so grateful for everything that they've given me, because every opportunity I have is because of this fan base that I have cultivated. And they expect the truth from me, and I'm not gonna let them down.

• 10:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. In your book, you say drugs are for me.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  They are.

• 10:18Jamie Kern Lima?

  Can you share?

• 10:19Speaker 01

  I love drugs. I love edibles. I love smoking pot. I can't really smoke pot because my voice has a bad impact on my throat and voice, which I hate because I love smoking pot too. But I do once in a while, but I mostly have edibles. I love LSD microdosing. I love mushroom microdosing. There isn't a drug that I've met that I've had a bad reaction to. And I would like to say, I understand drugs are not for everyone. They are for me.

• 10:45Jamie Kern Lima?

  How often do you do them?

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Oh, all the time. I mean, not every day, but like, you know, I'll go to bed, I'll always take an edible to go to bed, you know, rather than I try not to take too many sleeping pills, you know, if I'm traveling and going to different time zones. So edibles are a better alternative to that. But, you know, if I'm out on the weekend and I, we're having a fun day, I'll have a little microdose of LSD, microdose mushrooms all the time. If I'm going to dinner, I'll have a little mushroom gummy. I love it. And I love the way it enhances my enthusiasm to go out and socialize. Sometimes you're, I'm exhausted and I don't want to. And sometimes I need a little help. But I have come to a place in my life where there is no shame

• 11:30Speaker 01

  in my game because that, my alcohol and drug use has only enhanced my productivity and my success. Being honest about it, not being shameful about it, not ever abusing it to the point where I have to give it up to understand that there are boundaries and you can't just go hog wild. You know, you're going to pay a price for that. So I have a very clear understanding of what my limits are and, you know, and, and I'm also very responsible because I'm a professional. So I, I do have to get up every morning and I go to the gym and I work out and I'm, I take very good care of myself and I eat very healthfully.

• 12:08Jamie Kern Lima?

  Never late.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  And I'm never late. And so when anybody wants to pretend that drugs and alcohol create degenerates, yes, they can, but that's not always the case. So I always like to share that with people because that's a very old way of thinking. And I'm about to publish my seventh book, my seventh New York Times bestseller, right? You can't do that if you're a degenerate. So.

• 12:34Jamie Kern Lima?

  I love, I love the story in your book about the couple in their 70s. I'm not even going to give it away because everyone needs to get the book. It is not only so funny and so just, I know you're obsessed with words and, I mean, it's just so well-written, but you just take so much out of it. I know I, I shared earlier, I felt like I, I closed the book and I had borrowed so much of your courage to fill more bold. There's just so much that you get out of the book. One thing that you shared in it that I wanted to ask you about. You professed your interest in having sex with then-New York City Governor Andrew Cuomo.

• 13:19Jamie Kern Lima?

  And he had heard about this and you guys ended up on a phone call and then sexting. And then he like disappeared after that, like ghosted.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Ghosted me.

• 13:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  When you were on the phone with him or texting, how did he respond?

• 13:38Speaker 01

  He was very flirtatious. He ate it up. I knew. I went on The View and pronounced my declaration. I declared my attraction for him. You know, I said, I would like to say, I was talking to Joy Behar and Whoopi, I think it was. And I said, I would like to be penetrated by the governor of New York. I want to just throw that out there. And then I got off the Zoom because it was during COVID, so we're on a Zoom. And I got off the Zoom. I was like, now we wait. Like, he will be in touch. Like, I knew it. And three days went by and then I heard from him. And first, he left a message, which I played probably 1,000 times. I went to go look for it a few months ago when I was writing the book and it was gone. And I was like, oh, I wanted to play it for my editor. But anyway, enough people had heard it by then.

• 14:22Speaker 01

  Anyway, and then he called me on the phone and we talked one night. I was at my girlfriend's house in her backyard. We were having a COVID dinner date, a dinner party. And I was on the phone with him, just walking around in the backyard, like, you know, jumping up and down like a schoolgirl. Like, everyone knew I was on the phone with Andrew Cuomo and they're all just like, oh, my God, we're at my friend DJ's house. And they're all like, oh, my God. And I'm like, you know, like, I was 16. I was just like, oh, my God, I can't believe this is happening. I'm going to become the first lady of New York. Like, that's how I was thinking about it. So he was just very flirty. He liked it. I think he was getting a lot of attention at that time, probably from lots of other women as well as me.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  But I, so we texted back and forth and, you know, it was cute. We set up a dinner date. We were going to talk, we were talking about going to, I was going to Maine. So I was like, oh, I'll come and have a dinner date, you know, at the Albany Mansion. We could do it outside to be COVID friendly. And so all of these things I thought were in progress. But then, then, once it became real and I was on the East Coast, I never heard from him again.

• 15:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  Did you ever, did he ever, like, did you ever send pictures or anything back and forth?

• 15:35Speaker 01

  Yes, I sent pictures, of course. Very flirty pictures. Of cour- there was one picture I took, like, I think my brother took this of me, because I, once he ghosted me and I realized, like, okay, it's over, like, it's not happening, you know what I mean? Like, once I accepted that.

• 15:51Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  Then I just kind of didn't care. And I was like, my brother and I said, I'm gonna send, my sister's like, send him one more picture. So I'm like, on my Vespa, I'm on a Vespa in Maine, we're renting this house. I'm in, I have a face mask on and a helmet, like, showing him how safe I am because of COVID, you know? He was yelling at all of us about COVID at this point, so I was wanting to be responsible. And I had a bikini on and I pulled the top down of my bikini and I was like, and my brother Roy is taking the picture of me, and my sister Simone walks out and she's like, what are you doing? What are you doing? That is your brother. But at that point, I just thought, like, the idea, the idea of a topless photo of Chelsea Handler somehow accidentally going through the governor's

• 16:33Speaker 01

  phone and then landing on one of those, like, big screens during, like, his early morning COVID briefings on CNN or Fox or MSNBC just brought so much joy to me, like, the idea that I could possibly disrupt the country in that way and give everybody a little ounce of laughter.

• 16:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  So I didn't care at that point. But no, that didn't happen. That picture wasn't transmitted onto, onto MSNBC.

• 16:55Jamie Kern Lima?

  Did it ever surface anywhere?

• 16:57Speaker 01

  No, I'm sure he probably had to delete that.

• 17:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  Or he made a ghoster out of it.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, actually, that's right. Exactly.

• 17:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  Did he ever send any photos back?

• 17:08Speaker 01

  No, no, he never sent any photos back.

• 17:11Jamie Kern Lima?

  Did he, like, sext back? Like, was it?

• 17:14Speaker 01

  No, it wasn't sexy. It was flirty. But he, he just was really enjoying the attention. And I was filming my special at the time, a special, and I was trying to find a venue in New York. So he was also helping me with that because everything was shut down, right? So we had to do it in an outdoor venue, but I really wanted to shoot it during COVID and, like, you know, be done with it.

• 17:35Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  And I didn't want COVID to stop me. And that was another, you know, example of, like, not letting the circumstances that you find you're in. Yourself in prohibit you from succeeding. You know, there's people who can find success in any environment. And just because COVID, everyone's like, no, no, it's impossible. You can't shoot your special. I was like, yes, I can. I'm going to find someplace and I'm going to do it. And even if it's only 100 people, like this is a, this is a special I need to get out. I'm ready to put it out there. And we did, we found this beautiful old historic train station in New York. We had like 150 people outside and we shot that special and it was on HBO Max. And, and I was able to get that done, you know?

• 18:16Speaker 01

  And, and I think that's a very also important thing that I always want to share with so many women is you have to believe in yourself.

• 18:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  You have to believe in yourself if anyone else is going to believe in you.

• 18:28Jamie Kern Lima?

  Hmm, yeah, yeah.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  And sometimes you have to be that for another person. You have to tell someone, I believe in you. When you see someone down or you see someone struggling so that you can infuse them with the self belief that they're lacking in that moment.

• 18:44Jamie Kern Lima?

  Hmm, you know, that's so good. Do you believe you're also divinely protected? And, and what I mean by that is, you know, in your book, which everyone needs to grab right now. I'll have what she's having because it's so good. And one of the things you talk about is, you know, after the, the Governor Cuomo thing, when then the whole scandal broke about him. And I think it was, um, your sister suggested your mom in heaven intervenes and make sure that, you know, nothing bad happens to you, that you stay on track. Do you believe that you're divinely protected from your, by your mom, by your brother? Do you believe in God?

• 19:29Jamie Kern Lima?

  And what's like, what's your role in faith, of faith in your life right now?

• 19:35Speaker 01

  I believe that there's a lot of stuff that we don't know. I do believe in magic and spirits. And I don't think that energy dies. I, I don't think, I, it doesn't, it transforms. So I think when someone dies with my mother, I believe that she is around me. I feel her around me all the time. I have this symbol between my mom and me. When I see oranges out of place, that's my mom telling me it's okay. When I see two oranges, it's my mom and brother telling me it's okay.

• 20:12Speaker 01

  And, you know, I can't see them in a grocery store or, you know, in your kitchen. But if I see them, I was skiing once on my birthday. I believe it was like my forty-fourth birthday. And I was in Whistler. I'm always there for my birthday, except for this year because of my book release. But, and I was skiing through these trees with a girlfriend of mine. And there was an orange in the middle of the trees. And it was, I skied into it and it popped up.

• 20:42Jamie Kern Lima?

  Oh, wow.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  And it was like a snowy day, so there was a lot of snow. Like, I wouldn't have seen it unless I skied right into it. And there was an orange. And it was my birthday and I knew right away my mom was there. I just knew it. So I do believe in that. Do I believe there's a man in the sky? No. I believe there is a universal intelligence. And there, and the universe is here to guide that. There is some intelligence that we can't see. But when you tap into your best self, you feel it every single day. Even when the circumstances aren't what you imagine. You are working, when you are working in concert with the universe. And you are happy. And you choose happiness. And you choose optimism.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  Everything in life becomes easier. And you feel it.

• 21:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes. I always say like you're in alignment with your assignment.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  Yes, I love that.

• 21:36Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 21:36Speaker 01

  And not to resist the stuff. Like, I think our biggest, and this is a lesson that took me so long to understand. When things don't go your way, let go. Don't fight. Like, it's okay. Let go of your attachment to the outcome of everything. You have to let go of that to enhance your own life.

• 22:01Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. I always believe in my life, like, oh, my gosh. I've had so many years of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of rejections in building. My first business and I know in the entertainment industry, it's, I mean, that's rejection on steroids. But I've always believed that like rejections, God's protection. And I also think that like, and so, and so, yeah, when I get rejected now or, or, or something doesn't go my way. Like in the past, I'd be like, oh, I'm not enough or I'd have all those thoughts. Now I literally, Chelsea, I believe, and I think this is universal, whether someone believes in God or the universe or any of that.

• 22:43Jamie Kern Lima?

  I think I, I believe God will block our value from people who aren't assigned to our destiny. Like I believe it. So if, if there's like a friend and I'm like, oh, why didn't I get invited to the thing? I'm like, oh, I'm not like, I trust it now. I don't feel.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 23:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  I feel like the right people will come into my life.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 23:03Jamie Kern Lima?

  Somebody doesn't see my value and I really believe like, okay, I've got to trust that it's being blocked for some reason. And I have to trust it's like for a higher good.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 23:12Jamie Kern Lima?

  And I have now saved so much time worrying.

• 23:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:15Jamie Kern Lima?

  Or trying to, you know.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  Stress and the worry.

• 23:18Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  And the negative talk, you know, I, I like, even when I send a text to a close friend.

• 23:25Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 23:26Speaker 01

  And like, um, let me think of a good example. Like I, I'm never ever going to put negativity in writing. Do you know what I mean? Like when I'm sending a text, like if they say, oh, hey, do you want to do this, do this? They send, you know, my publicist sent me a list of podcasts. Here are your offers. Which ones would you like to do? I won't even say, I don't want to do one. I'd, I say, I'd like to do this, this, and this. These sound so exciting. I'm just so much more aware of putting positivity out instead of negativity. Instead of saying, I don't want to do something. No, no. Tell me what you do want to do. I, I can't go to dinner. Like, you know, even if it's just the simple, the simplest exchanges.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  You know, I've, I've stopped myself, like when I've realized I might be making fun of someone in a text. I'm like, no, no, no, I don't want to be putting anything like that, writing. Something down has like an energetic impact. About your whole life. So like, I'm very, I've always felt that way about writing. You know what I mean? Be careful what you write. It's going to be there forever. Anyone can hack any of your things. But not just from, from like a paranoid, you know, perspective of, oh, someone might read this one day. From who, what, what kind of person do you want to be? Do you want to be putting out the good vibes? Or the negative vibes? And the negativity is, is very infectious. And it can feel really good and the payoffs can feel really good in the moment.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  Gossiping and being mean spirited about someone that you both don't like and duh duh duh. But that's not where I, I will not ever spend my time doing that in this life again.

• 25:08Jamie Kern Lima?

  I want everyone to hear the detail in what you just said.

• 25:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  Because a lot of people do that and don't even realize they're doing it.

• 25:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 25:16Jamie Kern Lima?

  You could do it and have a big payoff. Most of us don't get, which is you make people laugh. You could make people laugh by doing it on top of it. And you're that tuned in where when someone says, oh, here's a list of podcasts, you won't even say like, oh, I don't want to do those. You're gonna say, oh, here's the ones I want to do. You're tuned into that level of what you're putting out.

• 25:35Speaker 01

  And also like, you know, this was the example I was gonna say. It's like, you know how sometimes you can, somebody will invite you to dinner? And, and or I'll invite someone to dinner and then they respond with, I can't, I have to do this, this, this, this, this, this, this. That's not necessary. Just like, I would love to. Tonight doesn't work. Let's find another night. Like, don't list your grievances to other people. I would never say, I have the, one of the busiest lives. Probably anyone in my, like, I know how busy my life is. I would never sit and list all of the things I have to do to another person and write that in a text. Like, it's, there's so much of.

• 26:10Jamie Kern Lima?

  Like a friend asking you to come over.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, can you come over to, like, if someone said, hey, are you doing anything? Can you come over? I'd love to. Today's not gonna work. This is when I'm in town again. Let's see if we can hook up then.

• 26:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  Make it positive. Don't, don't write down everything that's, nobody, like, that's just not helpful. You know what I mean?

• 26:29Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  And it's not the vibe.

• 26:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, yeah. And then we attract. That we attract whatever energy we're putting out, right? And the people you were saying earlier, you don't have people even in your life anymore. That would that would lower your vibration instantly or anything else.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  Like my cousin, we came home last weekend and I've been hitting it pretty hard because my tours, a few nights a week, like three nights a week, we travel somewhere and it's, you know, that has an effect on your system and you're tired after you do three shows in a row. And we were and we were coming back and I was, we were landing on Monday and I was walking straight into my podcast. I was interviewing Riley Keo at the time and for her book. And my cousin was on the road with me and she has a young daughter. And she's like, I am going home and getting into bed for eight hours straight. I'm not speaking to my husband. I'm not speaking to my daughter. I have to recover from this weekend because of all the travel and all the fun.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  And she said, and you also, we need to give you days that you don't have anything to do. Like you, this is crazy. Your schedule is crazy. I'm like, it's not. I go, I'm doing this all so I can have a month off in December. I'm going to get a whole month of nothing work related because I'm hitting it so hard now. Like, I welcome it. You know what I mean? Don't make it into a negative. It's a positive. If anyone can take it, I can take it. You know what I mean? If anyone can hustle, I can hustle. So I'm, I welcome it and I'm grateful for the opportunity to come up here and sit down with you. I'm not like, oh God, I gotta go drive up to Montecito. No. I'm, it's the opposite. It's like, I can't wait to go have an incredible conversation with this amazing woman.

• 28:06Speaker 01

  And then I get to your house and I'm blown away by this whole thing. Like, how happy making is it?

• 28:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. I have to say, when, when, when I first met you and you're like, I just got to drive in my car alone for hour and a half. I'm like, oh, it was like one thing after another. It was so positive. Like you're, you're emitting that high vibration about whatever the circumstances.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  Which is such a beautiful thing to witness.

• 28:33Speaker 01

  Well, I haven't always been this way.

• 28:34Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  You know, and I haven't, I'm not in a cult area for anyone who's listening who's like, this is a little too positive. No, it's just, I've learned the effects of being positive. And it's just like a ripple effect and it makes people in your life happy. Like I'm able to, you know, you're dropping sunshine into everyone's drinks.

• 28:51Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. Okay. I want to ask you, speaking of sunshine, I want to ask you, you're close friends with the Bush Twins. And I just did a Hoda and Jenna's show and Jenna's so great. So I just met her. She's so lovely.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  So sweet.

• 29:04Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 29:47Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 30:31Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 30:51Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 31:34Jamie Kern Lima?

  It's the place to be and I sure hope you'll join me there. So if you're not on the list yet, you can sign up for free at jamiekernlima.com or click the link in the show notes below. And here's to becoming unstoppable together. And now more of this incredible conversation together. Speaking of sunshine, I want to ask you, you're close friends with the Bush Twins. And I just did a Hoda and Jenna's show and Jenna's so great. So I just met her. She's so lovely. So sweet. I want to ask you about the time when you were popping edibles to meet former President Bush. And we're worried about it because you disagree so much.

• 32:19Speaker 01

  Well, we were renting this house in Maine and then sissy Barbara Bush. I call them both sissy because you know, it's just easier to call women sissies instead of trying to remember everybody's names. We're all sisters. So I, they had heard that I was in this place and I was, it was called Bitterford Pool where I was staying. And Kennedy Bankport was only like, I don't know, 30, 40 minutes away. So Barbara Bush had heard that I was there. She said, she texted me and she's like, we hear you're here in Bitterford Pool. We're here visiting a friend. We're going to come over. And I was like, come on over. And, and I am friends with her and her sister. I love them. And I just love sisters, you know, like I come from sisters. I love sisters. And And then the first lady came over. I didn't know she was coming and I was like,

• 33:04Speaker 01

  whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, this is right after or right before the 2020 election, maybe. I don't know when it was around sometime where Trump was around, you know, lingering. And I was like, I wanted and George Bush hadn't come out and said anything, you know, to denounce him or and I and and obviously I'm a very outspoken Democrat. And I ended up going. She wanted they were having a pickleball. They wanted to have a pickleball tournament with all of our friends that were at my house and my brothers and sisters were all with me.

• 33:36Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 33:37Speaker 01

  They wanted to have a pickleball tournament at at Kenny Bunkport. And I was like, listen, I can't be seen with your father, first of all. Like, our political ideologies are so vastly different. And I don't really trust myself, quite frankly, in someone else's house. I don't want to insult your father on his own property. So like, I it's better that I don't come. And she's like, oh, come on, Sissy, you've been through you've been through all this therapy. Come on, you're a different person now. And I'm like, I don't know that I am. Like, my outbursts are as much of a surprise to me as they are to others. At that point in my life, I was just learning how to harness my reactivity, you know, and learning how to like, be discerning about when I want to drop in my opinions that are unsolicited, most often, oftentimes. And so I did, I took my but my one sister

• 34:21Speaker 01

  was like, don't take this opportunity away from us. Like, you know, take one of your drugs and subdue yourself. So my other

• 34:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  We want to go. We want to go.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  I know. My other sister's like, take two. My brother's like, take four. Take four of your edibles. That's how many you need to just calm down. So yes, I was very stoned when I met the former president of the United States, George W. Bush. And I told him so. I let him know when he was showing me his art paintings, his art paintings, his paintings, his personal paintings, and I would not take my sunglasses off. I let him know that I was indeed very, very stoned. And he was very cute about it. And he was quite charming, frankly, in person, which is exactly why I didn't want to go over there in the first place. You know, because I was like, I'll be a terrible juror. I just I based my opinions vastly based on people's dimples. And if they if they look nice and

• 35:12Speaker 01

  seem cute, I'm like, oh, OK, you know, exactly what a politician's supposed to do.

• 35:17Jamie Kern Lima?

  Do you, um, do you try to avoid spending time around people who completely don't agree with what you agree with, who like feel completely different? Um, or do you feel like that's changing in your life?

• 35:34Speaker 01

  It's, it's, it's, there are degrees, you know what I mean? I understand, um, I can't really spend time around conspiracy theorists. That's a level that I'm not willing to expose. I don't need that energy around me.

• 35:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  I find that to be very, uh, low vibes.

• 35:53Jamie Kern Lima?

  You know, the earth is flat, right?

• 35:54Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. By the way, I thought that for a long time too.

• 35:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  Did you?

• 35:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I thought the moon and the sun were the same thing for a long time. I'm a little, I'm a late bloomer. Anything involving science?

• 36:05Jamie Kern Lima?

  I knew this, I knew this. You thought the earth and the sun were the same thing?

• 36:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:10Jamie Kern Lima?

  And how, and what age were you?

• 36:12Speaker 01

  Forty, forty, on safari. I was on safari when my sister looked up and said, "The sun," she goes, "Oh, you look, you can see the sun and the moon at the same time." We were riding elephants in Africa, in Botswana, and, um, or no, we were in South Africa at this time. And she said it, and we were on this elephant together, and I was like, "What? See the sun and the moon at the same time?" I'm like, "What do you mean?" And, and, and I said, "What?" And she goes, "What do you mean?" And I, my sister, you know, like, she's like, "What do you mean?" I'm like, "Well, I just thought, I thought, I just don't understand how you can see them at the same time. I thought one goes down and the other one pops up, like they switched roles." And she's like, "Are, are you?"

• 36:55Speaker 01

  I'm like, "Don't say, don't, forget it, forget it, forget it. Don't say anything, because we're in a caravan of people, you know?"

• 37:01Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 37:01Speaker 01

  And then, you know, of course, she's like, "Ah, Chelsea just asked me a question, and I need to repeat it to the group." So that was, yeah, that was pretty embarrassing. And when Sherri Shepherd got all that shit for saying the earth was flat, I was like, "Oh, it's not?" Like, I was like, I could see, you know, when I thought about it, I realized, but I hadn't really been thinking about it. Kind of like I hadn't really been thinking about the sun and the moon.

• 37:22Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Like, I hadn't given it much thought, because it's not a huge passion of mine.

• 37:26Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  That I know, I saw the moon today on my drive up here, by the way. It was up there, it's like filling up. But now that I know that the moon is its own thing, I'm completely fascinated by it. I can't get enough of it.

• 37:37Jamie Kern Lima?

  Today, you saw the sun and the moon.

• 37:39Speaker 01

  Sun and the moon, yes.

• 37:40Jamie Kern Lima?

  Amazing.

• 37:43Jamie Kern Lima?

  What, well, so speaking of things you're passionate about, you said that you believe that Roe v. Wade being overturned was a result of the Me Too movement.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think that's hard for a lot of people to move on from. You know, losing the power, seeing women who are so self-empowered, seeing women become billionaires. I watched the Martha Stewart documentary. Did you see that? Seeing her become the first billionaire. I didn't know that, the first female billionaire. And then her being taken down by James Comey at the Justice Department.

• 38:18Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yep.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  Or that led to his job at the Justice Department. I was like, oh, there you go. There's a woman being successful, doing something that millions of men do every single day.

• 38:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 38:28Speaker 01

  Public figures that are men and they're not, you know, he used her. And, and, and as a, and they took her down. And I totally believe it was because of a woman. I believe that having a black president, Barack Obama, for eight years, scared so many white men. I think they thought, oh, my God, what's next? You know, what's next? A black woman? Or, God forbid, a woman? And I think that is, really, it's like the opposite of what a democracy is, right? We want a democracy. We think we live in a democracy. And now we're watching that democracy turn into something else that is not a democracy.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  And that's what people voted for because they are voting from fear, misinformation, and conspiracy theories. And they are sexist and racist. And there's really not-

• 39:23Speaker 01

  Any way to deny that. And in the face of that, it is so important for us to unite in solidarity with each other and empower one another to stand up to what we're about to experience in this world and in this country, to stand up, to fight, and to never look away, to always be a person that is going to help protect others. And in the name of democracy, in the name of equality for everybody, every single person deserves a right to be safe, to have clean water, to have food, and to have health insurance.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  When you're dealing with people who are trying to wrest that away, that is no longer a democracy. It's something else.

• 40:14Jamie Kern Lima?

  When you, when you mention, you know, the idea that reversing Roe v. Wade is a result of Me Too, do you think there's been such a, and you know, you, you talk about a few stories in your book about this, where the guy that you didn't pay the parking meter, and the guy's like, "You didn't pay the parking meter." And, and it's a fascinating, it's a fascinating story, because he's clueless that, I think maybe he's not, but that you don't need his assistance or his protection in that moment. And I feel like we're in this interesting spot. I was at an event recently that I spoke at.

• 40:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  There was 19,000 people in the stadium, and the person who was speaking before me was talking about, you know, raise your hand if you have felt unsafe in the past week. And maybe like 10 men raised their hand in the stadium, it was like 50/50, men/women. And he said, "Raise your hand if you're a woman and you felt unsafe in the past week." And 95% of the stadium raised their hand. And it, and what it was, was like, okay, you know, if women are walking down the street at night, they are, they're always looking over their shoulder, making sure they're safe, or they have their keys, or their pepper spray, or it's, you know, and, and... And what I wonder about, Chelsea, I'm so curious about your opinion on this, is that we're in this time where so many men have been raised to go,

• 41:42Jamie Kern Lima?

  "Well, if I'm gonna be a good man, I have to, I have to protect and take care of, you know, in that example, the 95% of women that raise their hand, because they often feel unsafe walking down the street." But then we're also in this time where women are, are stepping into their power and actually processing that oftentimes in boardrooms, they're not even allowed to speak, or their opinion isn't taken seriously. Or, so we're at this sort of like thing where, not dissimilar in a way from me too, where you have, you have men then going, "What do I do? What do I do?" What's my value? What's my value? And also like, am I totally damned if I do and damned if I don't?

• 42:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  Am I, am I, um, am I not a good person if I don't try and protect this woman? In whatever case, whether it's paying a parking meter or whatever it is. Or, am I, am I saying she can't handle things herself if I try to step in and help her? So I feel like it's this interesting spot, and I just wonder your thoughts on if, because we're in that, you know, where so many women are realizing for the first time, they're worthy of being on their own. They don't need a man to do what they want to do in life, whether it's to have a child or anything else, or, or a career, or neither, or any of it.

• 43:12Jamie Kern Lima?

  And I just wonder if there, if, if, if part of that also, and you see someone who is so extreme in the other direction. So I wonder if there's, yeah, what are your thoughts on that? Because you have this story that is so, um... Empowering, right? Where you're like, I don't need you to help, to tell me, I need to pay the parking meter. And...

• 43:36Speaker 01

  I actually don't need you for anything. You know what I mean? With regard to men. Like, in relationships, I've always had this dynamic. You know, like, since I am so independent, since I am self-sufficient, since I am self-made, nobody, you know, I've had help along the way, but nobody's ever, no one's responsible for my success as much as I am.

• 43:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  And, and there are so many women like me that are doing it their way. Without the help of a man, without a husband, without, you know, and realizing that maybe being a mother isn't for you. And what, why, you're learning, you learn at a very young age that your value comes from becoming a mother and a wife. Like, I don't, I didn't like that. No, I don't think so, you know? And so, in relationships with me, I've always found even people who are really successful, men who are very successful, once they realize that I don't need their protection, or their money, or their gifts, or any of that, like, what I'm really looking for is like, a spiritual

• 44:43Speaker 01

  connection. Like, I want to love you up, and I want to be loved up, and there's nothing else I need from you. A lot of men have a really hard time with that. Now, there are a lot of men, mostly under 50, that are understanding what it means to understand that female empowerment benefits us all. All ships rise with the tide. So, when women do well, men actually do better. And that's been proven in societies, in different countries. It's been proven ad nauseam, you know, you can look that up and find data to support that. So... It's like this old guard that is, it's almost like the death cough of white supremacy is what we're up against.

• 45:28Speaker 01

  Where, where, you know, a democracy means equality. And that's not what they want. They don't want equality, they want subordination. So now they have to turn it into something that looks more like an autocracy because of that. And as women, that's not going to diminish our success. We might feel a little bit less protected by the country, but women are crushing it. And nothing is ever going to stop that, which is why they're so scared in the first place. So as long as we continue to help rise each other up, sorry, lift each other up, we are all going to rise together. I believe that, even against the face of what we're dealing with.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  We have to even get stronger and more connected and help more people. And I'm totally happy to do that.

• 46:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  Hmm.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  I want to be a beacon of hopefulness for people that need it. And I want to show up and fight the good fight and be outspoken and not let people try to scare you into submission. Like, that's not going to work for me. I'm not giving up and throwing in the towel. But I have a responsibility to other people. You know, another thing I realized with, I was so vocal, you know, the first time it happened, I was so angry and I think I was on my Netflix show at that time. And I, and I was, I learned over the course of the last few years that my political opinions used more sparingly are more effective.

• 47:05Speaker 01

  So I now have a better understanding of when I can make an impact and how I can make an impact. And that rage and anger isn't the way to do it. You have to turn that into usefulness and, you know, and.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  And be inspiring to others, you know, show them, show other people who don't know what to do, who don't have big platforms, who don't have big megaphones, show them how it's done. So, and, and, and to, you know, to just be a sister to everybody you can be a sister to. We need more love in this world. And that, and I, I'm not, I'm not going to be living in fear. I just won't. I won't let them steal my joy.

• 47:47Jamie Kern Lima?

  Hmm. Yeah. You know, I was thinking about a lot is women like Gloria Steinem.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  And people who have accomplished so much and done so much and spent their entire life advocating. And I was curious what you would say about, because you've spent a lot of your time and energy also, you know, advocating. And so, um, which is one of the most admirable things that you can do. And so to hear you say, uh, you know, we need to come together now more than ever. We need to rise higher together. We need to not back down. We need to not like dim our light and hide, or think that our candle is blown out, or any of this stuff. A lot of people, I think, are looking for hope right now.

• 48:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I just, I would always point to female success. Like, just don't like look at, we are more successful than we have ever been. That is the causation of all of this, you know, trying to tamp us down. We, you will not tamp down women. I have more faith in women than I do in men. So, we are not going anywhere. You're not going to take, you can't, you can't kill us. Like, you can't kill our souls. Sorry. It's not. And we're fighters. And now that we understand that all of this success is possible, and like, we, yes, we didn't get the first female president. We'll get there.

• 49:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 49:14Speaker 01

  It's not, it might not happen in our lifetime, but we'll get there. We have to just keep moving towards that goal.

• 49:19Jamie Kern Lima?

  You once said, I don't know if you're joking or not, but, uh, about this idea of men going extinct. Do you think that that is something that will ever happen?

• 49:30Speaker 01

  No. Well, I, it was this idea about parthenogenesis. You know, parthenogenesis is when women, females are able to procreate without male sperm. And it's happened to a few different species. It's happened to an anaconda. It happened to a condor. And there was one other animal that it happened to that I have to look up. And, um, And they procreated, one was in a zoo and was no, had no exposure. The anaconda was in a zoo and had no exposure to a male. So she basically fertilized her own egg and had a baby, had a bunch of babies, because you know, snakes. Condor, same thing. And then there was a third animal that I can't think of right now. Anyway, we are evolutionarily 1,000 years behind animals.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  So if men don't clean up their act, we're not going to even need them to make fucking babies at one point. Okay, we're going to be able to procreate on our own. We're already able to do it without a penis. You know what I mean? We can already inject sperm and get pregnant. So we're one step closer to actually evolutionarily having our bodies figure out a way to create babies and make them without men. So I would really recommend everyone getting their acts together before they do become extinct.

• 50:43Jamie Kern Lima?

  Speaking of penises, in your book, one of my favorite parts, of many favorite parts, but one of my favorite parts was not only, you know, as I keep sharing that you just, I just closed that, the last page. I read it cover to cover, like I couldn't stop reading it, right? Which is rare for me. Usually I have to kind of power through. Oh, it's so good, Chelsea. And I closed it. And not only, of course, did I feel more courageous, I felt like injected and all kinds of things. But I love living vicariously through some of the stuff you've done. And for anyone out there who's like, you know, has wanted to do stuff, but you haven't,

• 51:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  you almost kind of get to live through things, through some of the stories that you share, which I love. From, you know, going to Whistler and sleeping with your ski instructors to all the different things. But one of the things you talk about was, was about a story about your ex Ted and having threesomes. And so I'm curious, have you had a lot of threesomes in your life? And also, also what about foursomes or fivesomes?

• 51:55Speaker 01

  I, no, I've never had a foursome or a fivesome. I've had a few threesomes. And yeah, I find it very sexy. I find that very sexy. As long as you're in a trusting dynamic with your partner, bringing a third person in, I think can be a lot of fun. But you have to be able to trust each other and do that. And yeah, I think about that. I mean, I'm definitely open to doing it again. So it was always a good. It's kind of like drugs for me. Like, I like adventure, you know?

• 52:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  So I'm always open to more adventure.

• 52:33Jamie Kern Lima?

  Has it, does it matter if the proportion of men and women in it?

• 52:37Speaker 01

  It has to be a woman. I don't want to have sex with two men at the same time. I'm not interested in that.

• 52:42Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  That's not been a fantasy of mine. But I do like seeing a man, you know, be like a man that I'm with, being sexual with another woman when it's in front of me. Like, I find that very sexy.

• 52:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. What about two women? So three women?

• 52:57Speaker 01

  Three women together?

• 52:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  Uh huh.

• 52:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would be into that. Women are always safe, you know? Like, I find women to be more safe than men, obviously.

• 53:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  Do you think you ever would be with a woman in a relationship? This conversation is so good that we have one more part to come. That's right, part three with Chelsea Handler. And we are saving the best for last. If you are ready to truly live more, laugh more, and love more, I am so excited for you to join us in part three coming up, where we dive into building the courage to be more bold, confident, and free in your life, and how to get what you want right now and step into your purpose. So if you are ready to find your freedom by releasing your past, not give a damn what other people think, and truly how to be who you are,

• 53:47Jamie Kern Lima?

  knowing that the people who are for you will find you and will like you too. Get ready to laugh and cry. Live, love, and laugh more in your life today. I am so excited for part three coming up. If you loved today's episode, my only ask is that you please click the follow or subscribe button for the show on your app and give it a five star rating or review. And then share this episode with everyone you believe in. Share it with another person in your life who could benefit from it. Post it and share it with others online or in your community who just might need the words and tools and lessons in this episode today.

• 54:28Jamie Kern Lima?

  You never know whose life you're meant to change today by sharing this episode. And thank you so much for joining me today. Before you go, I want to share some words with you that couldn't be more true. You, right now, exactly as you are, are enough and fully worthy. You're worthy of your greatest hopes, your wildest dreams, and all the unconditional love in the world, and it's an honor to welcome you to each and every episode of The Jamie Kern Lima Show. Here, I hope you'll come as you are, heal where you need, blossom what you choose, journey toward your calling, and stay as long as you'd like, because you belong here.

• 55:10Jamie Kern Lima?

  You are worthy, you are loved, you are love, and I love you. And I cannot wait to join you on the next episode of The Jamie Kern Lima Show. Do you struggle with negative self-talk? Living with a constant mental narrative that you're not good enough is exhausting. I know, because I spent most of my life in that habit. The words you say to yourself about yourself are so powerful, and when you learn to take control over your self-talk, it's life-changing. And I wanted to give you a free resource that I created for you if this is something that could benefit your life.

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• 57:41Speaker 02

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• 58:13Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 58:57Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 59:19Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 59:42Speaker 03

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• 1:00:10Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 1:00:21Jamie Kern Lima?

  It's such an honor to share this podcast together with you. And please note, I'm not a licensed therapist and this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional.