SpaceX IPO, Epstein Shocker & Austin Metcalf vs Karmelo Anthony’s Parents | PBD #817

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down new Epstein revelations, the Karmelo Anthony fallout, the SpaceX IPO frenzy, and other major stories shaping America. ------ 👨‍🍼 FATHER'S DAY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/43TmZmD 🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD 😆 CHECK OUT VENTING WITH VINNIE: https://youtube.com/live/XTIx7FCjl_8 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ SUBSCRIBE TO:@VALUETAINMENT https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCIHdDJ0tjn_3j-FS7s_X1kQ https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCBhk5IGscWGP53VhaOs8Apg @ValuetainmentComedy https://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCBhk5IGscWGP53VhaOs8Apg ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:14Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 00

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, folks, I got a call this morning. Vinny, let me tell you why this is a crazy story. We're driving up, Brooklyn's sitting next to me, I get a call from Goldman and says, "Hey, Yon, so SpaceX IPO is gonna happen today and everyone's talking about it, da-da-da-da-da." Okay, great. So I said, "Tell me really what's going on?" I said, "Well, let me tell you craziest story." I said, "What's that?" Yeah. He said, "There is roughly thirty-three employees in SpaceX that when this thing goes public today, they're not executives, they're not C-suites, they're not VPs, they're not directors, they're not even managers. They're just regular employees that have been there for many, many, many, many years when nothing was going on and everything was breaking, that will be getting somewhere between two to four hundred million dollars." No way. What do you mean, collectively?

• 1:11Patrick Bet-David?

  No, individually are each getting two to four hundred million. Stop it. You're talking about regular workers? Regular, they're not C-suites, they're not VPs, they're not directors. Good for them! They're regular. And by the way, this is the part about equity that most people don't realize. We had one of our guys at the beginning stages of an insurance company that got a lot of equity, but they walked, they ran off. Their equity would be worth a lot of money, not SpaceX type of money, but it's the life-changing type of money. So imagine all the people that were employee number eighty-eight of SpaceX, or employee number one ninety-three of SpaceX, that are like, "No, I'm gonna go work at Facebook, no, I'm gonna go work at Google, no, I'm gonna work at somewhere else."

• 1:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And they banked on a different jockey than the one they had. Imagine where they're at today, okay? Imagine how much shit-talking over the years they've given for SpaceX. Let me tell you, what you don't know is the fact that Elon is this, and Elon is that, and Elon is that, and then boom. By the way, it's gonna be the biggest IPO in the history of mankind we've ever had, at one point seven-ish trillion dollars. You guys know Tom's got a bunch of different things to talk about with that, so that'll be one of the top stories.

• 2:19Patrick Bet-David?

  That we'll talk about number two, there's a book that's coming out, which you know, it's called regime change and it has nothing to do with Iran. It's a book about regime change where they're highlighting what happened inside the White House and the two authors that wrote this book, one of them is from New York Times, I think it's Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, these are not lightweight people that wrote this book. And a lot of credibility of how the whole thing happened with Epstein. Everybody is talking about this story. The book is coming out June 23rd, I don't know what day it is, but I can tell you one thing for a fact, if you're gonna promote a book, the way to promote a book is for it to come out on Tom's birthday, like there's no better day to come out with a book than Tom's birthday. I think that's the date.

• 3:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So we have to talk about, because some of the stuff, Bongino's in it, you know, Suzie Wiles has a conversation with Bongino saying, you're leaking information and Bongino's like, hell to the no, I'll give you a hundred thousand dollars right now, go to the reporter, I'm gonna quit, and he leaves, gets in, it's a lot of great stories of what happened here and how the Epstein files was a shit show from the beginning when we talked about the biggest flop and the way Pam Bondi handled it was, was not a good thing. You'll see what some of the conversations are in that book. And then we'll talk about Austin Metcalf and Karmelo Anthony, Austin Metcalf's father came out, he said a lot of different things, so did Jasmine Crockett, and so did a lot of other people, and there's a few different things that are just, people are getting involved

• 3:44Patrick Bet-David?

  in this, it's a lot of discussion video, I know you got a lot of thoughts on this, we going to that as well. And then we have TPUSA, something happened that, you guys were showing me this, this morning, that a summit that is called the Her Summit?

• 3:57Speaker 02

  Yes. Honesty, empowerment, and resilience or something like that?

• 4:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that, at that summit, where she's giving a speech, and they added a video that allegedly says Charlie Kirk says, if I'm not here, I want her to run it.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  The promo for it and before the event, it's Charlie going, if anything happens to me, my wife could take over, which was AI. They put it in there and it's AI.

• 4:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And we know for a fact that's AI.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  It's definitely AI. They admitted it on the Charlie Kirk Show.

• 4:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's they?

• 4:22Speaker 02

  Andrew Colvin and Blake Neff.

• 4:23Patrick Bet-David?

  From TPUSA?

• 4:24Speaker 02

  From TPUSA, were like, we're just trolling the trolls.

• 4:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So we'll, we'll definitely talk about that, we'll definitely talk about that and get into it, and then you got the Iran. Missiles, the president saying we're taking over Calais Island, they hit it left and right. We shot down two drones. There's a bunch of stuff going on and hey, we're gonna do a deal. No, we're not gonna do a deal. Same thing's still going on, but hopefully that gets done here soon. Aside from that, we got two other stories. Karen Bass's brother was not happy with what happened with the fires in LA.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So he decided to sue the city that his sister is running. Is that correct?

• 4:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that really a true story?

• 4:58Speaker 02

  Absolutely true story.

• 4:59Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not a step, this is a real-

• 5:00Speaker 02

  This is her brother.

• 5:01Patrick Bet-David?

  This is her brother.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  This is her brother.

• 5:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we have Plattner, whose story came out about what he did. The reason why he got the Hitler, the Nazi tattoo was white. Tom, you were saying that, he said-

• 5:11Tom Ellsworth?

  He had an extramarital affair and she was saying that, he used to say about the tattoo, "Check out my tattoo." Says, "The US is evil." And so it's like he was proud of it, that he got it and he was displaying this. So, all the covering up of the tattoo, not the cover up, but all the ink that he put on it to make it a black blob. Apparently, he really felt this way in his heart and he was saying this to his mistress.

• 5:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so-

• 5:33Speaker 02

  That's why he put it on his heart.

• 5:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Hunter Biden tweeted about this and he says, "You tell me what's in your computer. I bet you have some stuff that you're not, you know, you're embarrassed of if it became public and all this other stuff. Leave this man alone. He made a mistake many, many years ago when he was in early twenties." And Hunter Biden tweeted, by the way, Hunter Biden's Twitter game is actually pretty good. He's, I don't know if you're seeing some of the stuff, he's talking shit to everybody and he's getting eyeballs.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. What other recourse does he have at this point? Well, he might be the president or the vice president.

• 6:00Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, "I prefer to be a vice president."

• 6:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I've been sober for a while, looking for a job.

• 6:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 6:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay.

• 6:05Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, by the way, yesterday, Mexico played against South Africa. I don't know if you saw this or not.

• 6:11Speaker 02

  I did.

• 6:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It was a feel-good story at the end because Mexico won 2-0. There was three red cards given.

• 6:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see that?

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, but did you see that? The most amazing part is one of the Mexican players made a mistake and they gave him a green card and the game was in Mexico and he ran across the board and he's working at Home Depot right now.

• 6:27Patrick Bet-David?

  And is it true, like, every time you score a goal, they give you a green card?

• 6:30Speaker 02

  They give you a green card to come here and actually work.

• 6:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That is true.

• 6:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny?

• 6:35Tom Ellsworth?

  She can go to Home Depot and hang out.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  Green card and he ran off the field so they were playing with nine people.

• 6:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Viva Mexico.

• 6:40Tom Ellsworth?

  He's now hanging, he's hanging drywall in San Bernardino.

• 6:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're watching, everybody recognizing Mexico. Listen, if US is not playing, you have to root for Mexico. Right? You almost have to root for Mexico.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  You have to.

• 6:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So anyways, we got all those stories to talk about. Aside from that, folks, we announced something on Monday for Father's Day that's around the corner. And let me tell you, it was 500, originally, we were only doing 200 boxes. We did 500 boxes. Pete just sent me a text right now telling me they have sold 403 with 97 left and the hottest shirt out of all of them that's selling. I want you to see which shirt this is. So if you love your father or your grandfather, ladies, gents, take a moment and do this and spend something. They say we spent $230. Every Father's and our Fathers, a lot more for Mothers, but we spent $230. Watch this video. You may be inspired to get something for your father or your grandfather. Go ahead.

• 7:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if you know or not, but every year we spend $10 billion more on Mother's Day than Father's Day. We don't get things for Fathers. We forget about it. It's just the Father. This year, we're doing something special. We got a box for all great Fathers in the world that says, "The Future Looks Bright." And here it says, "Father, Protector, Provider," in the box. When that Father, that special Father opens it up, he will get a mug that says, "Future Looks Bright" with Father, Protector, Provider. He'll get a Future Looks Bright hat. They will also get a Future Looks Bright RFID wallet. On top of that, a pen that says, "Father, Protector, Provider." And you get to pick and choose four shirts for that incredible Father. One of them is the best at ever with Future Looks Bright on the back. The other one will say,

• 8:17Patrick Bet-David?

  "Father, Protector, Provider." The third one is, "Raising Leaders, Building Legacy." I love every single one of them, but the last one's gonna be so special. You ready for this? It says, "Grandpa Knows Everything." So if you got a Grandpa sending it to let him open, he's gonna be excited. Go to the website. If you go to the website, vtmerch.com, I want you to see what these shirts look like. So on the website, refresh the page. Okay, right there. Click on Shop Now. So if you go there, zoom in a little bit. So Raising Leaders, Building Legacies, Father, Protector, Provider. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. You see right there, "Grandpa Knows Everything." And the best part about every one of these shirts, you know what it says on the back of it? Go on the shirt if you can. Go on the shit and go back, there you go. Go one more, boom, future looks bright on all of them.

• 8:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So when you do order the box, just make sure you choose the right size for the shirts, which one you want. And then also be sure to choose one of the two hats between the red and the blue. And the packages will be mailed out next week to get to the folks that you wanted to get to. So having said that, go to VTmerch.com, place your order. And if you don't want to order the box, you want to get 20 Father's Day, you know, hats for somebody, the best hat ever, just order 20. We had a couple of people that ordered 20 shirts just to give away the shirts to fathers in their companies and their organization and their families. With that being said, let's get right into it. First story I want to get into is this story about SpaceX. SpaceX IPO could turn 4,400 employees into millionaires.

• 9:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Crazy, crazy story. Imagine you've been working at a company for all these years and then all of a sudden, oh yeah, I know equity, equity, equity. And like, I don't know if I believe in equity. I don't know if I've seen anything happen with equity. And then all of a sudden, boom, oh, I love equity. This is, I didn't know this is how it works. This is how it works. Well, here's a story. Officially, Elon, as of a few hours ago, is worth $980 billion. Today, in a couple hours, Elon will be the first trillionaire ever in the history of mankind, including some of these oil people, because even these oil families that got a trillion dollars, it's between 42 sons. So it's not like you're worth a trillion dollars. You're sharing it with 42 other sons or eight other sons. So let me read this to you. As Trevor Heiss was getting ready to graduate from college in 2011, his parents wanted

• 10:27Patrick Bet-David?

  him to take what they saw as a stable job at GE. Honey, go work at GE. But Mr. Heiss had landed an internship at a startup he loved. Against his parents' advice, he stayed for a full-time job at a young company. In the next 12 years, the startup was Elon Musk's SpaceX. Today, Mr. Heiss has more than 100,000 shares of SpaceX that he earned from his time working there with the rocket maker, expected to go public at $135 a share. Mr. Heiss's SpaceX stock is officially worth $13.5 million. SpaceX IPO is expected to Make a lot of people rich, even richer. First in the queue is Mr. Musk 54, which is likely to become the world's first trillioner,

• 11:10Patrick Bet-David?

  but the group will gain life-changing wealth for the first time. SpaceX's current and former employees, the company has 22,000 employees via and hundreds more left over the years. Some were hourly, blue collar workers who toiled at launch sites, others sat for days straight in one's windowless office at SpaceX industrial complex in South Texas. For many, their work is about to pay off big time that the stock was part of their compensation. More than 4,400 current and SpaceX employees are likely to become millionaires of the IPO and 400 are expected to earn a minimum Vinnie of a hundred million dollars or more. Thirty-three or so employees that are non-C suites, non-directors, non VP, non-managers are getting paid two to 400 million dollars.

• 11:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, 1.7 trillion, never such a thing has happened before. Why is this such a big deal?

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• 13:46Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a big deal because he's private and he built it. That's what the big deal is. If you're part of the, you know, I'll say this, but everybody knows what I mean when I say this. If you're part of the Lucky Sperm Club and you pop out as son number seven of the Sultan of Brunei or something, that really doesn't count. You're being born into a family where the ATM of Earth just spits out money.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  I like that, Tom. Silver spoon mentality.

• 14:10Tom Ellsworth?

  The ATM of Earth. He's done this himself. And, you know, you remember May 21st, 2025? I was looking up this morning, just for kicks, 5:30 a.m. I was looking up negative stories about Elon Musk when he left the White House. Because I just wanted to, remember that? It was, oh, they said, "The Atlantic ran a story, the decline and fall of Elon Musk." May 21st, 2025. Oh, Lord, what will he do now? He's got to go back to work, figure out his company, now he's going to be a trillionaire. But number one, it's private and he built it. And he built it despite doubt. He built it that many entrepreneurs face, doubt from family, doubt from investors, doubt from business partners. And he did it. That's why this is so big.

• 14:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And actually, I saw today, Brad Gersner of Ultimater said that the magic number, I think, is 141.5. At 141.5 on the stock, he is a trillionaire. Which means just after it goes out, it's there. And so, I think this is great, and this is what the big deal is, is because he's done it there. Oh, you're going to have all the pundits, we can talk about all the other stuff around this, but you have to remember... What's also a big deal today, retail, this is people like you and me, Vinny. The retail demand is $70 billion of retail demand. Which means just the retail demand could fill the whole IPO of 75 million.

• 15:37Tom Ellsworth?

  75 billion is what's being raised in the IPO. And by the way, you know what the previous record for the amount raised in IPO was? It was Saudi Aramco, the national oil company in 2020, and they raised 29.4 billion. So this is raising almost 3X. That's why it's a big deal.

• 15:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, thoughts?

• 15:58Speaker 02

  Well, look, Bernie Sanders is gonna have to have a new lingo. He's gonna say, "The millionaires and the billionaires and the trillionaires."

• 16:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember, he'll leave out the "M."

• 16:05Speaker 02

  He'll leave out the millionaires now, but congratulations to these people who stuck it out. I mean, some of them have been with them how many years? 10-plus years, when SpaceX was just a figment of Elon's imagination. So the question at this point is, because you know, I'm here for the retail guy, for the average investor out there, should you buy SpaceX IPO? Should you, right? I don't know if you should, because typically what, well, I guess what Elon is doing is he's actually trying to prioritize the retail investor. Typically, the retail investor is sort of the odd man out. He usually goes to what more institutional capital or the ultra wealthy who kind of get in at a good price?

• 16:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Retail is usually the exit for the institutions.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  Bingo. So most people do actually, I think the average number is minus 21% if you try to get in on the IPO. So here's my advice to the average investor, if I may, if you're not gonna get in on the IPO, which I don't necessarily recommend. Don't chase the IPO. I would wait six to 12 months to see basically where the market goes. Wait for the hype to kind of die down. What do they say? Don't buy the rumors, don't buy the news. But last but not least, everyone I know that has got wealthy in the stock market has done this one thing, and it's very simple, but it's gonna take a while. What's the one thing? Buy and hold. It's a strategy. We talked about that with crypto the other day, the hodl situation.

• 17:30Tom Ellsworth?

  But you're not gonna get rich by chasing every single IPO. You're gonna get rich by buying great companies with revenue, with earnings, with profit, and holding on it for decades. I wish there was something easier, but that's my advice.

• 17:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Ah, Vinny.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  I just, I, first of all, I, I

• 17:44Tom Ellsworth?

  What's an IPO?

• 17:45Speaker 02

  I absolutely love the story because if you believe in the man, you believe in the vision, that's the type of stuff that happens, especially those regular employees. One of them was making him tuna fish sandwiches, Pat, with no windows, no nothing, just sitting there. And if you believe in the leader and you believe in the vision, like I said, it's gonna be good. And mind you, hundred, if you watch any of his documentaries, you watch his, uh, if you read his books, the failures, the fa, the hundreds and millions and millions of dollars. Well, I remember the documentary where he's like, well, I gotta find another hundred million dollars. He never stopped, he never quit. And then, you know, you start watching videos of rockets leaving every day and coming back in, coming back in and landing inside a net.

• 18:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Such a great point you're making.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  It's such a, like, you believed in it and you waited and you never gave up on this guy, Pat? Even, even when, and you remember the clip where he's sitting in that, in that interview, Tom, and he's crying, he's crying because the people he looked up to, the astronauts that made him get into what he's doing, were all doubting him in Congress. And they were all on the government side of NASA saying, no, don't, don't do this, don't privatize it, don't do it. And he got hurt, which I think motivated him more. So, good for him, Pat, good for SpaceX, and God bless all of them.

• 18:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, I want to tell you, SpaceX got started in 02.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're talking about 24 years ago.

• 18:52Speaker 02

  Really?

• 18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, 24 years ago.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  Not long ago.

• 18:54Patrick Bet-David?

  For the first six years, every day, they said this was gonna fail. Every day. Aerospace experts said Musk had no business building rockets. The first three Falcon 1 launches failed. By 08, SpaceX was nearly out of money. So 08 is what, 20 years ago, 18 years ago, right? We're talking about. Musk later said both Tesla and SpaceX were on the verge of collapse simultaneously. Had the fourth Falcon 1 launch failed in September of 2008. So imagine, failure, failure, failure, failure. Let me continue. Controversy around SpaceX, the, the workplace culture. SpaceX has repeatedly faced criticism over long work hours, intense performance expectations, employee burnout, lawsuits involving workplace conduct, discrimination allegations.

• 19:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon Musk's public behavior challenges yet when he's going through the pressure that he's dealing with that nobody else knows about. The government contracts, Starlink, all this stuff that he's going, all the hate that he got nonstop while he's going through it. And the people that stuck around are now going to celebrate and their lives change. And by the way, for the rest of their lives, that group is gonna have a connection with each other that nobody understands. Do you remember the guy that we had that won a contest? We should run it again, by the way.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 20:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And he ended up being on the pod.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course.

• 20:08Patrick Bet-David?

  We had, what was his name? Ephraim. Ephraim, it could have been Ephraim. Remember when we had him on?

• 20:12Speaker 02

  Well, he worked for SpaceX, right?

• 20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Eight years.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 20:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And I said, what was it like? He says he was involved all the time. We would see him. I said, he was, he said, oh yeah, he was always there talking to us. Spring, stirring the pot, competition, what department's gonna do better, all this stuff. We love working for the guy. So imagine these people that are in it, experiencing it, loving it. For the right person, who stayed there, what a phenomenal story. I'm happy for SpaceX. I'm happy for every one of the employees whose lives are changing. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get into. Ra, uh, uh, is, is it, uh, no, not TPUSA, not regime change. Let's go into, let's go into Austin Metcalf's story next with Karmelo Anthony. So he is facing, how many years? Is it 35 years with a minimum of 17 years that he can get out?

• 20:57Speaker 02

  Sentenced to 35 years.

• 20:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Sentenced to 35 years. Some wanted to do life. They couldn't because he was 17 years for stabbing Austin Metcalf. The father spoke, a bunch of people spoke, mother spoke, the riots, protesting, everything that's going on there. Rennie, I'll come to you first. So what are your thoughts of what happened here with this 35 year sentence?

• 21:16Speaker 02

  Well, Pat, with all the stuff surrounding it, at the end of the day, a jury of his peers found him guilty of murder, full stop. Anybody out there, which I get it, Pat, that's their job. Their job is to come out and racist this and racist that. It was found guilty and everybody's like, well, there's no black people on the jury. That doesn't mean it was all white racist. There was Asians, there were Middle Easterns, there were white people. He, they have footage of stuff that nobody else saw except in the courtroom. Okay? And then the arguments of all these people, he stabbed him one time. It was only two inches. He brought a knife to a freaking track meet and people like Jasmine Crockett like, you don't know what it's like to be black in America. We, there's, the people are just trying to kill us all the time.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  We ha- he had to carry this thing. No, he went under a tent where, where he wasn't supposed to be. And he got into an altercation and the alternat- altercation raised to murder because of him, Pat. And if you want to see, uh, the Jasmine Crockett, uh, clip, I think you guys have to see just, just the attitude of people in Congress saying, well, I, I, basically being, almost saying like, I would have done it too. If it was me, I would have done it. And then spinning this fantasy story like he was this giant attacker beating him down. None of the reports, said that, Pat, none of it. And all the videos, I don't know if you guys could have any of these queued up. Can you imagine, Pat, imagine if the roles were reversed and a white kid stabbed the black kid in the heart and then,

• 22:44Speaker 02

  Jim Jordan went in front of a camera, a congressman, and was like, yeah, this is just bull, this is all BS. This is all racism. Imagine what the world would be. There would be riots. This is the clip of Ja- Jasmine Crockett. Go ahead.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  I can't hear it.

• 23:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, we can't hear the audio.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  I still can't hear it.

• 23:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, Jake, I can't hear the audio.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  It's all good. While, while, while they're doing that, Pat, um, it's, it's just unbelievable that the lie of all this, it's white, it's white, it's racist. There's, the, the, the family members, and remember, the father of Austin Metcalf, like, I don't know how the grace that he had to sit there and be like, no, listen, God bless him, emotional, but still like, I'm gonna pray for him. I'm gonna pray for his family. The family raised what, what on, um, what's that, uh, GoFundMe or whatever time?

• 23:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And there's a Send Me, also something.

• 23:38Speaker 02

  Go send, give, send, go. Six hundred thousand dollars and allegedly the money is all gone. Now he's dealing with a public, uh, defender.

• 23:47Patrick Bet-David?

  They bought a house.

• 23:47Speaker 02

  They bought, it, all, all allegedly, we don't know, but it's like, I'm, I'm sick and tired of everything that has to go to race. Just call it what it was. He wa- he murdered someone and initially everybody from the other side was like, oh no, this is a race, racial, thing. And no, it's not. It was murder, plain and simple, and he has 35 years in jail.

• 24:06Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'm not surprised and I'm saddened. I'm saddened and unsurprised. I thought that Metcalf's father showed great poise in the statement that he gave, but Vinny, they don't care that it's a murder.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  They don't care.

• 24:19Tom Ellsworth?

  They only care that it's a narrative.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:21Tom Ellsworth?

  And they have to propagate the narrative for power. The way they get power, political power, economic resources to do the things they want to do is Jasmine Crockett has to go to the microphone and basically regardless of how true it is or isn't, regardless of how insane it may sound to rational people and the news media, she has to go with the narrative. And the narrative has nothing to do with Anthony, has nothing to do with Metcalf, has everything to do with you don't know what it's like to be black in America. It's back to the narrative.

• 24:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Because she has, that is her blankie.

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 25:00Tom Ellsworth?

  That is her power, that is her cause. If she is to ever say, remember, most of the criticism of major charities is that once they accomplish their objective, they have to go look for something to do.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 25:14Tom Ellsworth?

  And they don't want to break it up because there's people making money on those charities. And this disgusts me because this is perpetuating racism, not trying to bring healing. And you remember the guy that came in, did the so-called spokesman for this? And Metcalf's father tried to meet with him, they were going to pray, they were going to see together, start healing. He kicked him out of that press conference early on.

• 25:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, here's Jasmine Crockett, watch this, go for it.

• 25:40Speaker 00

  Wait a minute, was it a switch? I don't know what he had. It was like, it seemed like it was a multi-tool, almost like a Swiss Army. Yeah, like with the little scissors and everything and whatever. So it was small.

• 25:54Tom Ellsworth?

  That, oh, okay, but it worked.

• 25:57Speaker 00

  I would argue the size of it alone, you wouldn't even think it's a daily weapon.

• 26:00Tom Ellsworth?

  What the hell is that?

• 26:01Adam Sosnick?

  Forgot to have it in the bag.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  If it was one of the little...

• 26:06Speaker 04

  Like, I, I don't know. Like, I, I do think. Well, that's why he went to his coach and was like, but I don't think I hurt him that bad.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But I don't think I hurt him. You know, you know what Matt Walsh posted yesterday?

• 26:18Tom Ellsworth?

  He's no longer breathing.

• 26:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Matt Walsh said this. He says, this is so devastating. Imagine being a black parent tonight. How do you protect your children? If they go out and stab just one person, they might go to prison. It's like a black man in America can't even murder any, anyone anymore. Unimaginable. Jim Croll over again. I'm furious.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's, and by the way, funny pointing at it, but the fact that the weapon was small.

• 26:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the knife that was used? What is small about that? That's a real knife.

• 26:43Tom Ellsworth?

  That is a real blade.

• 26:45Speaker 02

  That was used.

• 26:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't see a scissors.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  Two inches. It was like that big, Pat. So she's like, it wasn't like he was trying to really murder him. He was just trying to kind of murder him. The fact that he pulled out a freaking weapon in just a scuffle is, there shouldn't not be any argument.

• 26:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The video of the mother and the father, do we have any videos on that?

• 27:02Speaker 02

  The father, there's a very good one, Pat. Remember, father being is as graceful as he can, not, by the way, I had to check this twice to see if it was AI. Cause I was like, this doesn't seem like it's really him. He's had enough of their nonsense and he calls out the father and he calls out the money and he calls the, the, the entire situation out.

• 27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Adam, your thoughts?

• 27:21Adam Sosnick?

  Well, Jasmine Crockett, I, I just want to address that real quick. Uh, she says this quote, black women, especially black women who have black male children, live in fear and agony every single day. Why? Why are you living in fear and agony every single day?

• 27:36Tom Ellsworth?

  That the news media may show up on your porch?

• 27:38Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, you're, you're way more likely to be killed by a fellow black person than a white cop or a white kid.

• 27:46Adam Sosnick?

  The, the, the numbers are ridiculous. By the way, if this was a black kid that killed another black kid, this would just be yesterday's news. But the fact that it was a black kid that killed a white guy and they tried to racialize this and basically tried to politicize this is really why this is. But ultimately this comes down to one thing. I do want to talk about the dad in a second. This just comes down to victim mentality. The first time that I really, honestly, genuinely heard about victim mentality was from PBD. Cause I know that is one of your least attractive things that you find in life. And I was like, oh. What is victim mentality? What is all that about? Being a victim? So I went and I took a second. I said, what does it really actually mean to have victim mentality? Like, what are the prerequisites? Or the signs that you're living as a victim?

• 28:30Adam Sosnick?

  And this is what it kind of came down to. Because ultimately, it comes down to, does life happen to you? Or do you happen to life? And here are the three biggest signs that I came up with that you're living like a victim. Number one, you're playing the blame game constantly. It's always somebody else's fault. It's not me, it's not me, it's not me. Like, you're giving the examples of like, you've lost five jobs and it's always your manager, right, Pat? You've talked about that. Playing the blame game. Number two, you focus way more on excuses than solutions. Rather than walking away like this kid, rather than saying, hey, I shouldn't be here. It's like, what, what'd you say? Okay, cool, now we're gonna have a problem. And number three, and this is the biggest problem with the victim mentality, is that you find yourself being helpless. You have no agency, you have no control of your life in America.

• 29:16Adam Sosnick?

  Are you kidding me? If you're in some third world destitute country, I get it. You might not have options. But in America? In the land of the free, home of the brave? You want to live like a victim? Two things can be true. I can or I can't. Whatever way you think, both are true. Ultimately, I just want to say this. The testimony, not the testimony, the video of the father, basically pouring his heart out after his son died. By the way, I think this guy lost...

• 29:47Adam Sosnick?

  I think we knew this, but I just want to address this. You know that Austin Medkaff, the guy that was killed by Karmelo Anthony with a K? He had a twin brother. He died in his twin brother's arms. The thought of that, where he said, Austin's brother, Hunter, respect to you, Hunter, if you ever see this. Oh, my God, oh, my God, my brother, my twin. Then he died. I can't even imagine being the father of a murdered son, horrible. But your twin brother, that you have to look in the mirror and see his face, your face every single day, dies in your arms, it's so depressing and saddening. And the fact that the other side wants to play the victim, when the kid that got killed is the actual victim, is the most laughable, sad thing I can.

• 30:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this the video of the father?

• 30:33Speaker 02

  This is old, though.

• 30:34Adam Sosnick?

  There was a recent thing that Connor sent.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  I just sent, I sent it to Humberto and Connor, you guys have it in the chat and the text. And there's multiple videos I sent to Connor as well, Pat, where there's a, there's a lady yelling in the camera going, what do I tell my five boys? What do we do now?

• 30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  This video?

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is the father. This is the father.

• 30:53Adam Sosnick?

  Drew Anthony, Kayla, you're cowards. You wouldn't even show up for your son's sentencing or victim statement impact. You abandoned your kid. You left him there. I guess he's no more used to you because you can't get any more GoFundMe money or GoSendGo money. You are grifters. You should be ashamed of yourself. You raised that child, and I swear to God, CPS, just come check on those other three that you still have.

• 31:24Adam Sosnick?

  But, no, he's still going. What are you doing? Admitted or took accountability. You tried to play victim. The real victim is the one who died, not the one who shoved a knife in his chest.

• 31:42Adam Sosnick?

  I come to pray with you and show the world we can close the gap of this unbelievable racial divide. And what'd you do? You widened the gap even further. You hire a convicted baby-shaken felon who's only in it for the money, who gives you bad advice, kicks me out of a press conference. Oh, funny, I was somewhere I wasn't supposed to be, but I left. When I asked, I didn't stab anyone. Yep.

• 32:18Adam Sosnick?

  And then you proceeded to gaslight me with your convicted felon.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  Advocate minister minister of what minister irrelevant minister of bullshit.

• 32:30Patrick Bet-David?

  We got him pissed.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  How about minister fuck you.

• 32:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, he went there.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  Oh, he he like. Y'all think I'm a saint. I'm no saint. I'm as human as you. I have emotions. Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I don't sin because I don't walk on water and I don't turn it to wine.

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• 34:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  And he like, like, and you like the, the anger, it's his son and he tried to keep it composed.

• 34:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see the grandma? Because, because you see, I texted you guys the video of the grandma. I don't know if you have it. I just sent it to you in the group. If you go through with Connor and Humberto, if you look at the way the grandma reacts, okay, grandma reacts. Go up two, one more, one more right there. Okay. So this is Karmelo Anthony's grandmother. Okay. So your, your, your language is going to be a reflection of the people you love the most, right? Okay. Watch this.

• 34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That's all they can say, racist with a Michael Kors purse.

• 34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  This is it?

• 35:02Tom Ellsworth?

  That's the mother?

• 35:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Grandmother.

• 35:04Tom Ellsworth?

  That's the grandmother?

• 35:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it. No, this mindset comes from somebody. They send a message. So you can pause it right there.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  We had, there was, there was a video too of a, of a, of a black guy driving around punching, recording himself punching people in the face, white guy in the face, because he's like, "You were on the jury." And the white guy's like, "I wasn't on the..." Going around punching him, I sent them that video, Humberto, you have that as well. And then there's one video of some guy.

• 35:28Patrick Bet-David?

  This one?

• 35:28Speaker 02

  Jumping and, yeah, this guy, watch this. Play this video? Watch.

• 35:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, this is crazy. Hey, weren't you on jury selection?

• 35:36Speaker 04

  No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't, seriously. No, he wasn't. He wasn't.

• 35:40Patrick Bet-David?

  He was on jury selection.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  No, he wasn't. He's a vet, dude.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  And he was.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  He's a vet. He's a vet. He ain't been on jury selection.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  He's a veteran. Good job.

• 35:49Speaker 02

  You gonna die? Z, look at this.

• 35:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You on jury, weren't you on jury selection?

• 35:52Speaker 04

  No, he wasn't. He wasn't.

• 35:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You on jury selection?

• 35:55Speaker 02

  Like, that guy's on jury selection?

• 35:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You was on jury selection? Oh. Not for Anthony, for not for, not, not for coming out on Anthony.

• 36:06Speaker 02

  So punching, punching people, and what type of attitude? Then you have that one guy that's dancing in the guy's face, who gets arrested after for having a weapon on him. Like, it's just, this mentality is just so...

• 36:16Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a deeper issue here that goes all the way back to the OJ case. You know, the juice is loose. You saw people standing up and cheering after that murder trial. And then, the civil trial went lightning fast. Everything pointed to OJ, that he did it, and he was found guilty in the civil trial. And, right now, you've got people that believe that...

• 36:40Tom Ellsworth?

  First of all, there is no dispute that a murder was committed. And they want him proclaimed innocent because he was provoked. Oh, he was provoked, or whatever. The insanity of it, sitting back and saying, oh, he should be sprung because there was statements between the two kids. Really? So, the thing that's insane to me is that the great celebration that happened when OJ, who is guilty, was found not guilty in the first trial. And now we find out all the flaws in the first trial. The second trial comes out, and he's found guilty really fast.

• 37:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, but people were like, they think this is restitution. The death of Austin Metcalf, the death of him is restitution. That's what they think this is. And so, they have no problem going out racist, racist, racist, because that used to be the mute button for the rest of us.

• 37:41Patrick Bet-David?

  It doesn't work today. I mean, is the clip of the parents worth watching? Because I know you guys pulled it. Let's pull that up. And that's Carmelo's parents, right? Is that, okay, I do want to watch. Yeah, let's watch this. Go for it.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  My son didn't intend to hurt anyone. My son was defending himself.

• 38:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Take us inside that courtroom. What stuck out to you?

• 38:07Speaker 00

  What stuck out to me, number one, was the all-white jury. But I was trying to be, you know, like...

• 38:14Tom Ellsworth?

  False. He's lying.

• 38:15Adam Sosnick?

  There was an Asian Latino, there was women, there was all sorts of...

• 38:18Tom Ellsworth?

  The defense called only one witness on Anthony's behalf. His mother, Kayla Hayes. What did you tell the jury? I said, "Have mercy on my son." What do you say to his grieving family?

• 38:31Speaker 00

  It's unfortunate to where nobody wins. We've all been hurt by this. Everybody.

• 38:38Tom Ellsworth?

  That poor boy? His fix and experience a lot... That I would not wish upon anyone.

• 38:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Austin Metcalf's father Jeff called Anthony sentencing bitter sweet.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  What it boils down to for me is this. I don't care who you are, obviously my heart hurts. When you see a mother crying like that, it hurts. I feel bad for her, but don't let the father's like all white. There was Middle Easterns, there were Asians, there were what? It was a mixed, like, just because they weren't black doesn't mean they weren't all white.

• 39:07Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this?

• 39:07Speaker 02

  And this is this guy, by the way, Pat, this guy dancing in front of like, tell me like, what, what is the goal? What is your objective? Dancing in front of people that are just there to support and, and, and wait for the verdict? This dude, by the way, Pat, gets arrested after this guy.

• 39:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Which guy?

• 39:20Speaker 02

  The, the, the black guy that's dancing. Go ahead. The judge as well in this case, that it was not a case about race, but you cannot deny that just the facts of the case and what we've seen play out since then and what we're watch happening now is because the defendant is black, the victim, his wife, and that's. You can stop it. And then he gets bothered. That guy arrested. Just FYI because apparently allegedly he had a weapon on him that he wasn't supposed to have. So it's just, it's just a, it's just a, a mess that everything has to go to race. Everything has to automatically go to race and it should just be like, he murdered somebody and he's gonna go to jail. End of story. Period. It's over. Move on.

• 40:04Adam Sosnick?

  I love black people. I'm just gonna start this sentence with that, but wow. There's a, there's a big segment of black Americans that really need to do better. And, and let me unpack that a little bit. Uh, we've talked about the soft bigotry of low expectations. And I would encourage black people, and it's a weird segue, take a page out of what the Jews have done in America. Because what I am disgusted by is when Jews, my fellow Jews, want to play the victim and do, oh, the Holocaust. Bro, the Holocaust was 75 years ago. Is that really what's holding you back in society? Slavery was 200 years ago. Is that really what's still

• 40:48Adam Sosnick?

  going on here? I get that Jim Crow was, was a situation. I get that civil rights was a situation, but most young kids in their twenties and thirties, you've never had discrimination in your life. Ever. And what I've experienced is, is.

• 41:03Adam Sosnick?

  Look, every society, every culture has the good and the bad. You know, what was the famous Chris Rock joke? Where he's like, "There's white people, and then there's like the white trash." You know, "There's nice Jewish people, and then there's like the nebbishy Jewish guy." "There's black people, and then there's, you know, the next thing." Ultimately, is this, as the black community, who I love and encourage to do better, we can all do better. What I've experienced is this, I've seen friends of mine that were athletes, that have done well, that have done well in school, and their black friends are like, "Oh, you're the smart guy." "Oh, you think you're better than us, dog?" "Oh, okay." "Oh, you want to do good in school? You want to get grades?" "Oh, you're soft." It's like, why aren't you encouraging people to do better?

• 41:47Adam Sosnick?

  Why aren't you encouraging people to do smarter? What I will say about Jews is, they encourage you to go to school. They encourage you to do well. They encourage you to stick together. Now, some may say, "Well, they stick together a little too much." I'd rather have that than sort of the ghetto mentality of, "Oh, I don't know that mofo. I'm not trying to do business with that guy." You can work together, you can do well, and you can improve your society and your culture, but it starts with the family. And that's my last point. If there's no father in the home, how is the family going to lead? And then when the father wants to play the victim, it's going to go lower and lower and lower. And I just think that you could do better, and I think you should.

• 42:26Patrick Bet-David?

  In a big way, in a big way. I didn't know you were going to go into a Jewish commercial right now, but, you know...

• 42:31Adam Sosnick?

  It wasn't really a commercial.

• 42:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It was like an advertisement sponsorship brought to you by...

• 42:35Adam Sosnick?

  Well, no, if you want to say "commercial," I'll say one last thing. Do you remember during the Super Bowl? When there was the Jewish commercial about being a victim?

• 42:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 42:43Adam Sosnick?

  Bob Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, I guess funded a commercial about a kid, Jewish kid, getting picked on, being the victim.

• 42:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 42:51Adam Sosnick?

  And there was a lot of Jews that were like, "Yeah, yeah." And there's a bunch of us that are like, "Bro, step up and man up and fight back." Jews in America are soft. Go try, go mess with the IDF. It's a big difference.

• 43:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay. All right, so let's get to the next story. Next story I want to get into, should we get into the Epstein story or TPUSA story?

• 43:10Speaker 02

  TPUSA.

• 43:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go into the TPUSA story. So Vinny, what is going on with this TPUSA story?

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Okay, Pat, so on June 7th, Erica Kirk, the current CEO and Chair of TPUSA, had the HER, her summit, okay, connected to TPUSA, and HER supposedly stands for Honest, Empowered, and Resilient. That was the word. And you know what? After seeing what I saw, Pat, the H for the Honest needs to bounce because they played a montage promoting this event, and in this montage, they play, and they purposely put it in there, a fake AI video of Charlie Kirk saying, "If something happens to me, everything could go to Erica." Can you please play this video? Play this part? Passion, and now his mission is my mission. I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me. Erica would do a great job.

• 43:59Speaker 02

  Okay. Are you guys ready for this? That is AI, and that was fake, and they purposely put that in there. And then, Pat, once it came out and the internet did its thing, and they found out that it was fake, this is Andrew Kolvitt, the, was he, is he the executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show? I don't know his, where he's at in Turning Point USA. This is them getting caught and then having to play defense. Play this video. We decided over the weekend, we were gonna troll the trolls. There's this video that has become a source of controversy. Not even controversy, just obsession from bizarre people. Yeah, just absurd. I don't even talk about it because I think the whole thing is so lame. And if you're online... They demand overwhelming proof for the idea that Charlie loved his wife and would

• 44:44Speaker 02

  want his wife to carry on his mission. Yeah. Well, it's something he told all of us. We all knew. We didn't talk about it because we thought Charlie was gonna be with us for another 50-plus years. But like, we all knew, the board knew, this was the plan, whatever. He said it one time in front of a camera at a private event with donors in Aspen. So, we just thought, we figured we'd troll the trolls. Yeah. And you get a little taste of it here.

• 45:06Speaker 04

  The most important relationship in your life is the one that you have with your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  They're showing you?

• 45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What's AI, Vinny? Tell me, is it the audio?

• 45:16Speaker 02

  Ready, ready, ready? Right there! That's fake. That's AI.

• 45:21Adam Sosnick?

  How do you know that's AI?

• 45:22Speaker 02

  They just admitted it.

• 45:24Adam Sosnick?

  Is that what they admitted?

• 45:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me hear, let me hear.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  Out there. But then, so we knew that it was gonna be like, oh, it's AI, or it's fake, or whatever this, because that's what they do. They always move the goalpost here. And that's why it's a sucker's game to even play this.

• 45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  But he's not saying it's AI.

• 45:37Speaker 02

  But it was really fun to be able to No, he is saying it's AI. Troll the trolls, stuff it in their face, and then watch them predictably melt down when the evidence was shown.

• 45:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, I don't know if he said it's AI. He's not saying it's AI.

• 45:49Speaker 02

  What do you mean? We got caught, Pat, they're saying that they were trolling the trolls.

• 45:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Humberto, is that what he's saying?

• 45:56Speaker 02

  Yes. That, that, that's not

• 45:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So do me a favor, go under the tweet and go and check to see if Grok says, somebody probably would have asked the question and say, is, what was said there, AI? If you can go to it, because I have two positions on this, but I want to come back to it. Okay, so let me, let me come to you.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 46:15Patrick Bet-David?

  While you guys are doing that, what's your problem with it?

• 46:18Speaker 02

  My problem is, Pat, with all the questions and all the controversy and all the lying, why would you do that? Why, what, because you know what that happens now, Pat? If this is real and you put AI and you're lying on your dead friend's name, then you have no right, with all these morons that are muddying all the water, with all these idiots that are acting like this huge conspiracy, why would you do that now? Because now, you open the floodgates, Pat, to everybody to come in now and say, if you lied about this, what else did you lie about? And I, me personally, I do not believe them. I don't believe the whole, guys, we're trolling the trolls and we're like, no, no, no. What are you even doing? Why would you put it in there?

• 46:58Speaker 02

  The HE, the her event, that's a serious, this wasn't just a, ah, gotcha.

• 47:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Humberto, ask the question.

• 47:06Speaker 02

  I don't, I'm not a fan of it. Like, why would you do that?

• 47:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go.

• 47:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, why would you do that, Adam? May I respond?

• 47:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. And you know I love you.

• 47:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 47:14Adam Sosnick?

  What's your goal? With Turning Point USA?

• 47:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Before you go there, before you go there, let's go through it. I first want to qualify if that was a yes, specifically was presented as an AI-generated or manipulated video of the organization. Okay. So, perfect. So then, let's go through it.

• 47:31Adam Sosnick?

  So, it is, was it?

• 47:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It is AI.

• 47:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yes. So, specifically the part where he's talked about?

• 47:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. And by the way, if you watch the video, the lips don't match the words. It's not that hard to do. If you watch the video, the lips don't match the words. But what I want to know is, okay. So, I talked to the estate planner of Charlie and Erica Kirk. This is a man that's a good man, that Tom's known for almost two decades. Good guy. This is not a bad guy. This is a good guy. Your estate planner, you know what your estate planner knows? Vinny, like, my estate planner knows, as well as Tom, if something were to happen to me, who manages the finances? How much money do kids get? What happens with the leadership team? What happens if something happens to both Jen and I? Who raises the kids? The living trust has all of that. So, guess who knows?

• 48:19Patrick Bet-David?

  How many people know what's in the living trust? Can you, like, in my living trust, how many people actually know?

• 48:24Adam Sosnick?

  Less than a handful.

• 48:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm gonna say, outside of your family, there's probably three. Probably a guy, Goldman, the lawyer you had to do it, me, the executor, and that's it. It's a tight group.

• 48:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, now, that's three. So, then, you either choose to believe, Tom, when he says that, or you don't. So, if you say, "I don't believe that it was in the trust," that's your problem. You can dispute that. But if this is a credible guy, that he said this, and Tom, I think his first name is Doug? I don't remember his last name.

• 48:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That's correct.

• 48:50Patrick Bet-David?

  What's his last name?

• 48:54Patrick Bet-David?

  If you don't know, just say it. He'll look it up. It's not a big deal, Tom. He was...

• 48:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I didn't know if you want to say it. It's Doug DeGroot.

• 48:59Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. They know that. Because they publicly announced that they're one of, he's one of the board members. And guess what? That's what Charlie's wishes were. Now, if they have a video of Charlie saying that, and then you go to AI to say he really did say that, that's not something to joke about. That's not something to put out there. You don't do that. There are certain things you can troll to troll. This isn't one of those things you troll to troll. It's just not. It's not, it's not an appropriate place. To use AI with, it's like you're asking for it. You're gonna get the criticism that you're gonna get from the market. What are you thinking about? By the way, just so you know, I want to make sure the market knows.

• 49:41Patrick Bet-David?

  My impression of Andrew, I don't know the other guy, I don't know his name. My impression of Andrew is Andrew's a very good guy. My impression of Andrew, I don't know him, I've never talked to him. We've never interacted, but purely from body language and the way he handles himself. I think he's a good guy. He doesn't give me a vibe of being a bad guy. I don't know all the other guys and I had a call with the board member Doug. We had a good lengthy call. I don't know what it was, maybe a couple of weeks ago, three weeks when we had this conversation together. And I do believe him, that Charlie in his trust put that he would want her to run the organization. I actually believe that. I think you would also believe that. Of course, yeah.

• 50:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, my dispute with this is, is take a break, move away. I said this on a podcast yesterday, I was doing with this fellow that came down here. And here's what my message was to that guy, to that guy.

• 50:36Patrick Bet-David?

  When I sat down with Charlie in 2017, Rob, Humberto, if you can go find my interview with him in 2017. You should be able to find it. When I sat down with Charlie in 2017, you know what's the one criticism I gave him there? I said, Charlie, what percent, he had a thousand people at Fort Worth, Texas, were sitting there doing an interview. I walk away, I told Mario, this guy's gonna be the president of the United States. Mario says, you really believe that? I said, this guy's so special, he's one of a kind, he's gonna be the president of the United States. Find it through Creator Studios like this, you're not gonna find it, because we've done so many of them. So, I said, what percentage of people in here are not white? He said, oh, we got plenty of them. I said, how many? We got 50, I said, so 95% are white? Yeah, I'd like to see you try to see if you can get others.

• 51:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, now somebody may say he's a nationalist, what kind of a message is that? Who cares what their skin color is, as long as, and they have an argument as well, I'm with it. But Charlie went from there, it's on Valuetainment, not on PBD Podcast. So, Charlie went from there.

• 51:35Patrick Bet-David?

  But if you were to ask till the last day that Charlie was leading TPUSA. So let's go to September 9th, not 10th. Let's go September 9th. Tom, what percentage of TPUSA that follow TPUSA, younger generation were men versus women?

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• 53:22Speaker 02

  80%?

• 53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  80, 20. Fair? Okay, fair. So imagine you go from the face being predominantly man. Man look up to man. Man follow man.

• 53:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 53:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Overnight, you now want the face to be a woman. You're gonna lose your man to another organization and that's exactly what's happening to TPUSA today. I agree. So you know what happens? Female membership goes up, that's it. That's exactly the one you found. All the way at the bottom you found. So if you want to kind of bring that up. Female membership went down, uh, went up, male membership went, went, uh, went down. Now that means we have more chapters, more this, more that. No. So I, I think to that side, my criticism doesn't change. Would I have as a board member? Uh, been a little bit more aggressive and assertive with Erica privately and said, Erica, can I call you privately for us to have a call? I don't want to do this and I just want to have a one hour call with you. I'm even willing to come and sit down with you 101. Just please hear me out and then afterwards do whatever you want to do. I'll back you up. What's that? Don't do this to yourself.

• 54:20Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna come after you. This is all I'm saying to you. Don't do this to yourself. Step aside, put a front man, let them deal with it. Let them take the arrows. When the dust settles, we'll bring you back up and we have to find two faces, not just one. It's gotta be you and somebody else because men need a face and they're not doing that with Andrew. So. Branding to this brand, it kind of is like, dude, you know, what are you doing? So, but aside from that with the AI stuff, yeah. Uh, um. Double dumb move. Just don't do something like that. This is a sensitive topic that you know you're gonna give those guys. Exactly. More credibility. Adam, your thoughts?

• 54:56Adam Sosnick?

  Well, uh.

• 54:59Adam Sosnick?

  I know Andrew, Andrew Colvin, I know him pretty well. You've spent a lot of time with Charlie. We've spent a lot of time with Charlie. Oftentimes when you would go off and talk to Charlie, I'd be standing there with Andrew, whether we were at, uh, Amfest or whether we were here in the studio. And we've created a relationship. I think he's a capable guy. I think he's a nice guy. We text, we keep in touch. But he's in a really tough situation. Because he's capable, he's a good looking guy, he's a stud. But let's get real here. Charlie's one of one. I often think.

• 55:26Adam Sosnick?

  What would value tainment be without PBD? I think about that often. I'm sorry, Pat. God forbid this happened to Pat. What would happen here?

• 55:34Speaker 02

  We wouldn't have, by the way, we wouldn't be sitting here on the PBD podcast and I wouldn't have.

• 55:38Adam Sosnick?

  Well.

• 55:39Speaker 02

  That's my, that's one of my best friends. I wouldn't be sitting in here, Adam, with all due respect.

• 55:42Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you for letting me know my thoughts, Vinnie. Allow me to finish.

• 55:45Speaker 02

  You're saying, what would we do? I thought you were asking a question. What would we do without PBD?

• 55:50Adam Sosnick?

  What would any organization do? What would, what would happen if they lost Tony Robbins? What would the Tony Robbins organization do? Hopefully they have a backup plan. What would happen with the Joe Rogan podcast if he, if he was no longer there? A lot of these companies, like you said, he had a living trust, not an eyelid, a living trust, which is different from an irrevocable life insurance trust. He was an eyelid, so he can make changes.

• 56:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are two different products. The eyelid is like, hey babe, you're gonna get this insurance, you're gonna get this, I can never change it.

• 56:16Adam Sosnick?

  Got it.

• 56:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So she knows for a fact, even if you leave with another woman, that's an eyelid, cannot change, it's irrevocable.

• 56:22Adam Sosnick?

  Got it. But this was a revocable trust.

• 56:23Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a living trust. This is estate planning, basic stuff.

• 56:26Adam Sosnick?

  So, the reality is this, turning point, there was, they were in a lose-lose situation. Their founder, their CEO, their face, the guy that brought everybody together, the person who basically held off the horde is lost. And now what happens? And they're left holding the bag. Three months later, they had to put together a Super Bowl party. They've had a tough time. And have they, have they done everything right? No. But to turn TPUSA into the bad guy, which a lot of people are trying to do.

• 56:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do this? Let me push back with you a little bit. Focus on this topic. Try to isolate, instead of talking about all the other stuff.

• 57:03Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think? Do you see an issue with using AI voice for Charlie to say in a topic where everybody's asking, hey, did Charlie ever say that? You think that's a wise move to do?

• 57:13Adam Sosnick?

  Do I think trolling the trolls?

• 57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Not trolling the trolls. Let me isolate one more time. I'm gonna go through the question one more time. Just very basic.

• 57:20Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 57:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think the idea of using AI, after you got criticized, when they're saying, Charlie said he would want her to run it, you think it's a good idea to use AI to add one of Charlie's speeches to say Charlie said that?

• 57:35Adam Sosnick?

  Probably not the best move.

• 57:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, great.

• 57:36Adam Sosnick?

  Not the best look.

• 57:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And I think that's, I actually think it's that black and white.

• 57:40Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 57:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think it's that much deeper than that.

• 57:42Adam Sosnick?

  That's the story. That's exactly the story.

• 57:44Patrick Bet-David?

  That's really the story.

• 57:44Adam Sosnick?

  But respectfully, that is this story, but that's not the story.

• 57:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But guess what? Who is making it a bigger story?

• 57:53Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, I could give you a laundry list of people that are basically taking advantage of the turning point situation.

• 57:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoever those people are, they're not going away. There are certain people that are gonna like, right now, okay, so, how much more hate am I getting today versus a year ago? You're around, no, that's public. I mean, how much, how much more you think it is? Do you think it's more than two, what, what is the, what is the?

• 58:16Adam Sosnick?

  The bigger you get, the more hate you get.

• 58:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But how, how much hate did we get five years ago? There was no hate.

• 58:20Adam Sosnick?

  You're five times X. Speak for yourself, sir.

• 58:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, I'm not talking about, I'm just talking about, you know.

• 58:25Adam Sosnick?

  It's way more, I think it's five times X than when I got, oh, when I got, from when I got here, five times.

• 58:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually think it's, it's compounded in a massive way.

• 58:32Adam Sosnick?

  We have a bigger target on our.

• 58:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we do. And by the way, you know, people, people are gonna criticize you for whatever you do. So for me, it's gonna be like, well, you did that insurance thing and you sold it and it's this, I build a real insurance company, we sold it, well, you know, let me tell you, you know, you, you took sponsorship money, yeah, we took sponsorship money, not knowing what it was, even JP Morgan Chase, who has access to everything, had 328 million dollars in the bank with those guys, and they're the ones that know and they still kept it there. So imagine if we are doing a research in a company and all of a sudden those guys know about it, who do you think knows more about it than I do? You think if they knew they're doing some dirty work, why are you still living those accounts? So imagine if JP Morgan Chase is making a mistake like that, you don't think a smaller company is not gonna be able to catch everything? Okay, so fine, but it's fine, it's a fair criticism. You ought to criticize

• 59:17Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 59:17Patrick Bet-David?

  the systems that we have for doing whatever the, the, the testing is for. That is all fair criticism. You're going to get it. You're the biggest reason why Trump won in 2024 outside of Trump himself. Do you understand what just happened right there?

• 59:31Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 59:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So we meet with a lawyer yesterday, one of the most powerful lawyers in the world. We meet with him yesterday. We had a good meeting together with him, don't need to say his name. And we're having a conversation. We've established a relationship the last few years, but it's getting closer and closer. And he's been telling me this for a minute. And he says, let me tell you, the stuff you're talking about, you don't even know who your enemies are. And so they're targeting you right now in a big way. And I'm talking about like, who, who are you talking about? He says, my clients are all the clients that everybody knows around the world. And, and when we go and do our own audits, we have ex CIA, ex FBI, ex this, and we do the full-on investigation and audit forensics to see where the money is tied to be able to get,

• 1:00:16Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, attack certain people, you're on one of the lists. I said, okay. So imagine where we are. Now imagine the organization that helped Arizona 300,000 ballots you're talking about with Charlie, what he did. He said it in the hallway to all of us in Washington DC at the inauguration. You're the guy that's flipping young kids and they took you out? Yeah. Guess how much criticism that organization is gonna get? A ton. Of course, yeah. So that, so don't eat, don't add fire, don't add fuel to the fire. And I think that's all they're doing. Don't do it. Just kind of go about it, give you argument, expect the fact you're gonna get a lot of shit and a lot of heat. Make a couple of adjustments, move forward, trust me. The moment this settles down, they're gonna go after the next guy to criticize. People move on very quickly to the next person to target.

• 1:01:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, but a part of it's gonna be a way we handle criticism and feedback that comes into place. This isn't an easy game. The moment you become public, it's non-stop for the rest of your life. And that's why a lot of people that cannot stand this. Remember guys like Scott Walker, boom, and then they disappear. No, no, no, I'm not, boom, and then they disappear. Guys come in and then they disappear. You wanna deal with this shit every day? So I just think there's a few things they could do. Tom, your thoughts, and then I'll come back to you, Adam, and then we'll move on.

• 1:01:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't have any other special thoughts. I don't think it was a good idea to use AI. In the midst of all the controversy and you still have speculators out there, there are great people inside TPUSA trying to manage it. And I just think the AI thing and, and trying to like, you're, you're creating controversy amidst controversy when you should be backing off.

• 1:01:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny.

• 1:01:45Tom Ellsworth?

  And, and that's why.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  Well, because Adam, you asked me, what's your goal? As if, like, what do you mean? Like, what's my agenda? I'm reacting to a story which makes a great point. You're giving that side that you were talking about all the ammunition because you guys got, you guys lied? Fake AI, fake voice, fake Charlie, and then you, you're acting like, no, no, we were trolling. I don't believe them. I don't believe them because guess what? Everybody's kind of moving on. There's still people doing the soap opera.

• 1:02:13Tom Ellsworth?

  What don't you believe about them?

• 1:02:15Patrick Bet-David?

  But wait a minute. So now here's what you're doing. So now let, let's qualify that as well, Vinny. Are you, okay, so these are two separate things.

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:02:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:24Patrick Bet-David?

  In my career, when I manage anybody I do business with, you're gonna make a lot of mistakes.

• 1:02:29Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 1:02:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You made mistakes. I've made mistakes. Everybody here makes mistakes. And there's levels to mistakes. Now, when you make a mistake, I may sit there, if I have a shot, have an opportunity when you make a mistake, to go and say, "These guys are evil, they're criminal, they're this, they're that." Or it's like, "No, no. They made a mistake. And let's move on." So if there is ten tiers of a mistake to make, and the highest one is you're killing somebody, hypothetically. Lowest one is just, "And it's a mistake." Where do you put this mistake, in your eyes?

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  Ten is, ten is...

• 1:03:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Ten is like horrible mistake, like travesty of a mistake you made.

• 1:03:04Speaker 02

  And one is what?

• 1:03:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You just made a mistake. Where do you put this?

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  Bonehead. Number one's like a bonehitter.

• 1:03:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, that's the point. But, but, but, but the way, when you say that, and it's like, "These guys," and I'm telling you, and this is... Do you think this is a question of character? My baby's Brooklyn. Come here, come just say hi real quick. Come here, baby, just come say hi real quick. So do you think this is like a tier one mistake? Or this is a dumb mistake?

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  It's a very dumb mistake that's going to add fuel to a fire that you guys were trying to act it and exist.

• 1:03:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You wanna stay here? You wanna stay with me?

• 1:03:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Brooklyn, come join the show.

• 1:03:36Speaker 02

  What happened?

• 1:03:37Adam Sosnick?

  Let's go. Oh, Senna's here too.

• 1:03:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright.

• 1:03:40Adam Sosnick?

  You couldn't have walked in in a more lighthearted story.

• 1:03:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Seriously. Can you say hi to everybody?

• 1:03:44Speaker 02

  Hi.

• 1:03:45Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your name?

• 1:03:46Speaker 02

  Brooklyn.

• 1:03:47Patrick Bet-David?

  How are you? How are you gonna be by June 26? Fine? Who loves you?

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Daddy.

• 1:03:53Patrick Bet-David?

  How much? Who loves who more, baby?

• 1:03:56Speaker 02

  Daddy.

• 1:03:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Daddy loves you. Senna?

• 1:03:58Adam Sosnick?

  Brooklyn stole the show.

• 1:03:59Speaker 02

  My name's Senna.

• 1:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  How often are you at the office, baby?

• 1:04:03Speaker 02

  Like every week.

• 1:04:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Like every week? And what do you do when you're here?

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  Roller skate.

• 1:04:07Patrick Bet-David?

  All over the place. And who's your best friend in the building?

• 1:04:11Speaker 02

  Alicia.

• 1:04:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Who loves you, baby?

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  Wow. Brooklyn, who's your best?

• 1:04:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me a kiss. Give me a kiss? Okay. Alright, so...

• 1:04:17Adam Sosnick?

  The audience didn't really get the full breadth of Senna. She's got a character. She's witty. She's, she's got a lot going on.

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  Can I just say one more time? Ten seconds? You, after all we've been through, she... No, you too, you're first though. Okay, alright. That's, that's all.

• 1:04:30Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, Melva.

• 1:04:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You wanna sit here? You should sit here.

• 1:04:35Adam Sosnick?

  You know what, PBD?

• 1:04:36Patrick Bet-David?

  We're about to go to a heavy story.

• 1:04:36Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, do me a favor.

• 1:04:37Patrick Bet-David?

  We're going into Epstein.

• 1:04:38Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, take five. Brooklyn is gonna take it over from here.

• 1:04:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Too crazy stories, babe. I don't want you to... This story is... This is a scary story.

• 1:04:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, this is a very scary story.

• 1:04:46Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a scary story. It's like horror. It's like obsession.

• 1:04:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, no, it's gonna be scary.

• 1:04:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, man in Nebraska puts puppies in woodchipper.

• 1:04:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you go and then come back because it's a scary time.

• 1:04:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'm gonna eat a donut with you.

• 1:04:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, can you... You can sit here. Then we're gonna go to a different story and then we'll go to the last one.

• 1:05:01Adam Sosnick?

  Can I just finish this?

• 1:05:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go for it, yes.

• 1:05:03Adam Sosnick?

  And everything that Vinnie... I'm glad that you did that with Vinnie because basically ultimately he said, "Look, he screwed up on this thing, but it's a 2 out of 10." And that to me is really kinda what I was trying to highlight. What... The problem that I have, and you kinda summed it up as well, is they're trying to turn Turning Point USA into the bad guy. It's the equivalent of trying to turn you into the bad guy because they only wanna highlight your mistakes. "Oh, you did the PHP, it's an MLM." Yeah, it was a network marketing, multi-lever marketing insurance agency that we sold for a quarter billion dollars. They wanna... They wanna turn everything that you do into a negative. And then my whole thing is like, "Do I think that PBD is a net positive to society?

• 1:05:46Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, why do you think I wanna be with him year in and year out? Do I think Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA are a complete net positive to society? Yes, of course." The problem that I have is very specific. There's the people that wanna take the mistakes that they've done and make them the bad guy. That's the problem I have.

• 1:06:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, Pat, I couldn't hear you, Pat.

• 1:06:06Adam Sosnick?

  Audio.

• 1:06:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I can't hear you at all.

• 1:06:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me check.

• 1:06:09Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, there you go. There you go, you're good.

• 1:06:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And I think a part of it is also, you know, the exaggeration of a problem. The exaggeration of a problem that you do. You take a molehill and you turn it into a mountain, right? And in this case, guess what? Score a double dumb? If my new outfit was here and the judge and the hero to zero, is this a zero mistake? Is this a zero category? Yes, don't do this. Don't do this. Find a way to increase, but we'll move on. The market will move on and we'll get to the next story. All right, so Brooklyn left. She just wanted to be here for two minutes and she's...

• 1:06:43Adam Sosnick?

  But that was a nice little party crasher right there.

• 1:06:45Patrick Bet-David?

  They're at the office every day, so we don't mind it. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story, inside the White House, freak out over Epstein files. This story dropped. A book that's coming out, Umberto, can you verify the exact date this book is coming out? I think the book is coming out June 23rd.

• 1:07:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It's called the regime change and this book will be a massive book that everybody will be reading because it called that everybody in the White House with things that are going on with the Epstein files. So let me read some of this story for you guys on what's in here and then Tom, I'm going to come to you because I know you've gone through the first five chapters. Inside the White House freak out over Epstein files. This is by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan. So let me read some of this stuff if you want to go to the article. So let me read some of the stuff to you. So we go through a couple of things here. Number one, they needed to a gesture of transparency to appease an increasingly angry base, but also a way to convey the message that the president was sympathetic to support his concerns. Now, keep in mind, this is not a Trump supporter or this is

• 1:07:46Patrick Bet-David?

  still New York Times. Never forget that. So let me go through it. J D Vance took a seat at the head of the table in the John F Kennedy conference room in the Situation Room complex and said, this is a huge problem. He told the group arrayed around him where the White House Chief of Staff, Suzy Wiles, then you have White House Counsel, David Warrington, Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, then you had a few other people that are there and they're having this conversation and the Deputy Chief of Staff, James Blair, then you have Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Speaker of the House. Now, Tom, who do we do they share with everybody who the whistleblowers is in this article?

• 1:08:20Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they the articles become this giant book and they don't share exactly where they get the data from. But when you look at this, and I'm not the only one, the people that have read what I'm estimating at about five chapters of excerpts because the book doesn't come out to June 23rd, as you pointed out. What you see here is a very well-written and very well-presented synopsis of what went on. They have got multiple sources. That's my feeling here. And the multiple sources appear to be rationally presenting things and they're also showing you backstory on things that there are other events that they connected to. It's like Bongino left the the building on this

• 1:09:04Tom Ellsworth?

  day and went here and here and they're like, wait a minute, we talked to him here, then we talked to him there. Those dots connect.

• 1:09:11Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you score the credibility of the facts of this book?

• 1:09:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Right now on its face, about an eight, and I don't see any counter articles coming out, oh, you're full of crap. Here's the seven ways you're full of crap.

• 1:09:22Patrick Bet-David?

  It's still early, so maybe we get it between now and Monday.

• 1:09:24Tom Ellsworth?

  You don't think there'd be somebody overnight that would get after this?

• 1:09:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I think so, but it's still, it's a little early, you know, sometimes people are reacting, so we'll see what happens today. So let me read through some of this stuff, folks, and then Tom, I'm gonna come to you first, because I know you've gone through the whole thing. So Vance had bought into the darkest theory about Epstein and a cabal of predators hidden within the country's ruling class, while those would tell others that the vice president had proved himself to be a major conspiracy theorist, okay? That's the story. And Vance floated to colleagues an extraordinary PR gambit. The White House should enlist Tucker Carlson to interview Epstein's longtime girlfriend and co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell in prison. Okay, better to rip off the bandage instead of moving on. Let me continue reading on what happens here. Then it goes into, you know, what they were thinking about doing next.

• 1:10:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Maxwell could be given a pardon, he said, or she could have her sentence reduced. This is Warrington, the White House counsel, responded by laying out the available choices without advocating any of them. At that, several around the table spoke up to register their strong disapproval. Pardoning Maxwell, a trafficker of young girls, would create a huge PR problem, Stephen Chunk said. He predicted that in the wake of the pardon, Epstein accusers would be fanning out of a TV telling their stories and ripping the administration to shreds. Blair also adamantly opposed the pardon. We can't offer Ghislaine Maxwell anything. A, I don't know why we would, and B, if we give Ghislaine Maxwell any sort of break whatsoever, and then she turns around and says nice things about us,

• 1:10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  or says nice things about us and give her a break, it will undermine the entire point of her saying good things. That will feed the conspiracy theory, period. If there's nothing for her to say that hurts us, we shouldn't have to offer her anything. It continues. Shortly after this, the president posted again he was going along with the plan, Situation Room, he didn't like having to do it, based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi. So this is what Pam Bondi comes in to produce all of the pertinent grand jury testimony subject to the court approval. This is a scam perpetuated by Democrats and should end right now. You remember this whole picture where everybody came in and they're saying, hey, you know, we got all the notes, we got everything, we're gonna share it with you. Okay, so then we reacted to it. Continuing.

• 1:11:37Patrick Bet-David?

  As this is going on, Patel privately shared many of Bongino's concerns, but in an internal, for weeks Patel and Bongino, the deputy FBI director, had grown more infuriated as they realized the scale of the mess for which they were now being blamed, because the market was blaming them. Now, remember, this is not an article that's a pro cash Patel and pro, what do you call it, Bongino. They don't like Trump. They don't like this administration. So they're not fans of any of these guys, right? Bongino hated the Justice Department. Nothing to see here memo had been drawn for public release. He told Patel, "This would in no way align with the promises of transparency" after taking over FBI, and he objected to putting the FBI seal on his letterhead, but he was overruled. Patel privately shared many of Bongino's concerns, but in an internal

• 1:12:21Patrick Bet-David?

  email on July 2nd, the FBI director gave his support to the memo. "Thanks for the edits. I still believe this is correct." Vehicle forward, Patel rode to the occasional typo to a small group of colleagues, including Blanch. "I'm happy to add any additional sentence to complete to compete the shortfall, but I do think we addressed specifically why more can't be released as it relates to the specific topics, i.e. court, etc., etc." Okay, so then it continues. Then you see the footage that comes out that the one minute was missing. We all reacted to it. I think we reacted to it, God knows how many times on the podcast. This is the jail video. And then all of a sudden shit hits the fan. Watch this. The day the memo was released, Bongino showed up to a Justice Department meeting with the FBI staff and Attorney General.

• 1:13:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He was in a volcanic mood. As soon as he entered the room, he erupted at Bondi, shouting at her, "You effed this thing up from the start," Bongino yelled. "The way you've been talking about this, that dumb effing charade with the Epstein files and their on my desk nonsense, all the promises to the folks out there." Patel and Bongino both subsequently told the White House official that Bondi needed to resign. Two days later, on July 2nd, the two men were summoned to a meeting with Wiles and Bondi in the Situation Room complex. They were the last entered a small wood-paneled room. Seated around the table were Bondi, Wiles, Blanch, Taylor Butterwitch, one of Wiles deputies. The moment Bongino sat down, Wiles told him that she had been informed, watch this, he leaked a sensitive story about Epstein.

• 1:13:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And Trump to ABC News and Bongino replied, I'll tell you what, I'll give you a hundred thousand dollars cash right now, I'm not kidding, walk out to the West Exec, put the reporter on speaker and get him to admit, I admit I leaked it to him, a hundred thousand dollars. Wiles snapped back, well, we all got ourselves into this shit. And Bongino cut her off, no, no, no, no, no, no, we didn't get ourselves into this. I warned you guys about the whole time and you ignored me. And exactly what I said was going to happen, happened. And now you're pretending I was in on this. I was never in on this. Bongino aggressive response to Wiles, startled the others. She was the White House Chief of Staff, essentially in a standing for the President. Wiles put Bongino on the spot, going forward, we're all in, we're all going to agree to move

• 1:14:35Patrick Bet-David?

  forward. Are you in or not? No, I'm not, Bongino said. This is not my plan. I'm not part of this going forward. Forget about it.

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• 1:16:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm out of here. He stormed out of the Situation Room into the West Executive Avenue, where he climbed into the back of Patel's armored SUV and directed the driver to take him to FBI headquarters. Some of Bongino's close friends hoped he would resign right there and act a protest that would give him a MAGA martyr and only increase his following, but the White House advisor intervened, urging him to stay if he quit Epstein. And when public it was severely damaged, the president, Bongino, told associates, "We'll remain for Trump's sake and keep pushing for more Epstein information to be released." I've got a few more things to read here, but a part of it is Charlie Kirk's, which is this next part's very interesting with Charlie Kirk in the story. "In a conversation with confidence, he lamented that with the job costing millions of dollars on podcast revenue, family time, his audience, one time he talked about it,

• 1:16:56Patrick Bet-David?

  "That my wife and I have been separated for nine months, not literally separated, but we're not seeing each other for nine months." You can imagine how he goes from making 20, 30 million a year, however much money he was making, to now...

• 1:17:05Adam Sosnick?

  You're talking about Bongino.

• 1:17:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Bongino's one of the biggest shareholders of Rumble, by the way, and he was the number one show there. And so Blondie F'd this whole thing up. Bongino later told the Confidant, echoing Loomer's derisive nickname for the Attorney General, "She was the one on TV saying over and over again that all this stuff of what they never happened, "We were always clear about it, but now everyone thinks we did something wrong, "And I give up everything," Bongino complained, "That he had given up his high-rated show, "Millions of dollars, and now it's all about to disappear." So this is the part that gets tricky with TPUSA and Charlie Kirk. "Trump told aides he was very unhappy with some of the most influential supporters, "Including Kirk, Carlson, and Megyn Kelly, all of whom were publicly urging the administration to come clean." Kirk had held the Turning Point USA event the previous day that turned into an Epstein grievance fest,

• 1:17:50Patrick Bet-David?

  "With one speaker after another speaker bashing Bondi over her handling the situation, "Trump called Kirk and scolded him." Okay, this is the story. "Nobody in the Trump's orbit had a better feel for the younger part of MAGA base than Kirk, "Who was, who saw that the Epstein cover-up, as it was now viewed, was capturing attention." To an alarming extent, Donald Trump Jr. And JD Vance, both of whom spent considerable time on X, were tapped into the same younger and hyper online portion of the base were also worried. Charlie, apparently, I think the TPUSA crew responded to this and said this call did happen, and they remember when this call happened, and the president was furious. I think TPUSA, Andrew Colbert may have sent, if I'm not mistaken, they responded to it, right?

• 1:18:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Furious wife pet?

• 1:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. What is that?

• 1:18:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, this is the tweet.

• 1:18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, this is a tweet. It was actually very widely supported at the time that President Trump called Charlie in July, what is that, SAS? I don't know what that is. We had gone, can you zoom in, guys? Listen, I can't read shit right now, zoom in, yeah. Pretty hard on the Epstein topic at the conference. Urgent Action Summit. There were actually two calls that happened during the Steven, the Student Action Summit. President Trump was pretty upset in the first call, this is true, he thought too many of his supporters were buying into the Democratic tactic to use Epstein conservatives, that was the first call, was pretty sure, but then there was a second call. I believe around 30 to 60 minutes after the call, I asked Charlie how it went, he said to me, we're all good, meaning the end, the president had talked, Charlie said it was a warm call, that the president told Charlie he was doing a great job, and that the admin

• 1:19:21Patrick Bet-David?

  was working on the solutions, Charlie communicated that the grassroots wasn't going to move on easily, but was glad to hear things were in motion. I remember this well, because he caught a bunch of bad headlines after the following Monday show for saying he was done talking about Epstein for the time being, and he said he was going to trust his friends, and the ball is in their court to fix it. Charlie was upset by the coverage because of that. So, I'll stop here. Tom, your thoughts, what else you got from the five chapters you read so far?

• 1:19:48Tom Ellsworth?

  So, what I read so far, two things came to mind. Number one, there was dysfunction in the White House, and this is not a newsflash, and I'm not trying to criticize people, we know some of these people, we think highly of them, but it was clearly there was like a strategic dysfunction, and there were multiple camps, and there was not one unified point here. And, it also shows that the one person who was leading all of the law enforcement stuff, Pam Bondi, Apparently made three mistakes. Uh, mistake number one, she got recorded at a restaurant. That's not rumor, that's not speculation, that's what happened. Uh, mistake number two, they, they put these binders out.

• 1:20:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And apparently the Justice Department, uh, Cash and, um, others didn't know what was in them. And apparently there was nothing new. And when the media got ahold of one and looked through it, cause I think Benny got one, um, yeah, a few people got them. And there wasn't really anything new in that. And then her saying, they're on my desk. And then saying, there's 10,000 videos, but things didn't come out of it. So Pam appeared to be saying things to the media coming out. And now we have very rational appearing reporting that shows that a lot of people are like, what are we doing? What is the strategy, Pam? Uh, and the last that I got out of this, it really looks like Dan Bongino was a rational partner.

• 1:21:15Tom Ellsworth?

  An outsider legitimately defending the president, trying to come to Washington, trying to make a difference. And immediately being in the middle of something heavy. And I, I followed the timeline and I went back and right in the middle of what you were reading was when Cash Patel and Dan Bongino did a side by side interview. And this wasn't just what we said, everybody said, is this an interview with the Department of Justice between Bongino and Patel? Or is this a hostage video? Yeah. They looked like they were stiff, they looked concerned. It didn't look convincing, which is what you want.

• 1:21:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody remembers that.

• 1:21:54Speaker 02

  And seen kill themselves.

• 1:21:55Tom Ellsworth?

  The more I, the more I read through this, Pat, the more I felt bad because it really seems like a dysfunctional war happened at the White House between these angles. And we see a lot of it here.

• 1:22:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's my question for you. Is there anything specific you want to go to? Like anything specific that stuck your, you know, that you were like, holy shit, this is bad.

• 1:22:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I think this confirms why Bongino left, this confirms why Bondi left. So all the speculation I think goes out the door on.

• 1:22:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:22Speaker 02

  But, but my question, Tom, is the umbrella, why? Why all the lying? Why all the deceit, why all the secrecy, all the way from the top? Because this isn't a Democrat tactic. It's when everybody's talking about the cabal and all the people.

• 1:22:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I gotta stop you. I think you should say confusion, not lying.

• 1:22:40Speaker 02

  Well, Tom.

• 1:22:41Tom Ellsworth?

  All the lying from the top. I think it's, there was a lot of confusion here.

• 1:22:44Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait. Were they putting out false information at all to the public about these people and covering, Tom?

• 1:22:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know. Was it Bongino or Cash say things that they believed at the time were correct?

• 1:22:54Speaker 02

  No, I'm not saying Cash and Bongino. I'm just saying in general, you don't think that we've been lied to about this whole Epstein debacle? The putting up fake stuff and the holding up the binders and all that stuff, Tom? This seems like it's made, the Andrew Kovac talking about the Kirk video is a number one or a number two. Tom, this is way up there for me. This is, we're talking about underage people that they were trafficking and they were hooking up with. And they're talking about giving Ghislaine a pardon that would, at the goal, the top of this whole thing.

• 1:23:22Patrick Bet-David?

  There's, there's two things. By the way, just so you know, every one of these things I just read, I can visualize happening.

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 1:23:29Patrick Bet-David?

  What kind of conversations do you think you have when you're in the room? And what do you think you're trying to protect?

• 1:23:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Like honestly, what do you think you're doing? Like, you, you, you know, you think when you're in that situation, you're gonna come out and tell a hundred percent of the truth on everything? What do you think you're doing like in that position? No, seriously, I'm just telling you, this is a shitty job.

• 1:23:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:47Patrick Bet-David?

  There aren't too many shittier jobs than dealing with the FBI and, you know, dealing with, you know, these types of things that these guys are doing. But there's two things I want to ask you, okay? Maybe this is the wrong question to ask, but I'm thinking about this. So when they walked into the room and it's Wiles, Bongino, and who else was in that room?

• 1:24:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Todd Blanch.

• 1:24:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And who else?

• 1:24:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And Cash.

• 1:24:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And Cash. So this is the only question I got.

• 1:24:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  One of those four talked to New York Times?

• 1:24:20Speaker 02

  Absolutely correct.

• 1:24:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So which one of those four did?

• 1:24:22Speaker 02

  Very good question.

• 1:24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So think about that. It's not Suzy Wiles.

• 1:24:25Speaker 02

  I don't think it's Todd Blanch because that's Trump's lawyer.

• 1:24:27Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not gonna be Suzy.

• 1:24:28Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:24:28Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not gonna be Blanch.

• 1:24:29Speaker 02

  Not Blanch.

• 1:24:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So then it's who?

• 1:24:31Tom Ellsworth?

  They certainly all.

• 1:24:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It's Pam Bondi.

• 1:24:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:24:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Or it's Bongino. Now here's the question. Does this article make Bondi look good?

• 1:24:37Speaker 02

  No. Why does it make her look good?

• 1:24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no.

• 1:24:41Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you understand what I'm saying?

• 1:24:43Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if you understand what I'm saying here. What am I saying here? They know what I'm saying here. Did you understand what I'm saying or no?

• 1:24:50Adam Sosnick?

  Are you saying that it could have been Bongino?

• 1:24:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else? I mean, who else is in the room? Unless if there's a drone, small little, like a mosquito-sized camera flying around and recording everything.

• 1:24:59Adam Sosnick?

  Never know.

• 1:24:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So, by the way, why could it be Bongino? Why could it be Bongino?

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  Because he wasn't happy with the way that it's going.

• 1:25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, is there a person that's taking a more heat for this bullshit than Bongino?

• 1:25:10Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there somebody that's taking more shit for this than him?

• 1:25:14Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:25:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody's blamed him.

• 1:25:17Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:25:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody is saying that, you know, what happened here. Now, by the way, this article, let's go through this. Just ask this question, Tom. Who does this article make look bad? Make the list of names. Let's go through it. Let's play a game. Who does this article make look bad?

• 1:25:31Speaker 02

  Bondi.

• 1:25:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So, I want to go bad, horrible, neutral, good. So, let's go horrible. Bondi's there. I think Bondi is horrible.

• 1:25:39Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:25:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you got bad, then you got neutral, then you got, uh, uh, uh, good, okay?

• 1:25:46Adam Sosnick?

  Cash does not look too good.

• 1:25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  So, it makes Bongino look good.

• 1:25:48Speaker 02

  Good, he deserves it.

• 1:25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it make Cash look bad? Or is Cash like neutral?

• 1:25:52Adam Sosnick?

  I think Cash is neutral. Below neutral, but not horrible.

• 1:25:54Patrick Bet-David?

  How about Wiles? Where do you put Susie?

• 1:25:57Speaker 02

  She's doing a little damage control, but I don't know.

• 1:25:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Bad or neutral?

• 1:26:00Adam Sosnick?

  I think it's more neutral. She's trying to do her job.

• 1:26:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm with you. Who else? Tucker, where do you put Tucker? I think it's neutral. He was gonna do the interview.

• 1:26:07Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:26:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, great.

• 1:26:08Speaker 02

  And Megyn Kelly and all them in there too, right?

• 1:26:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Megyn Kelly is neutral. It's not good, it's not bad. It's just neutral, let's mention. Who else is good or bad? Where does Trump end up looking in here?

• 1:26:17Speaker 02

  Where's Trump bad?

• 1:26:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Trump's gonna be in the bad category. Okay, who else? What does JD look in this?

• 1:26:21Speaker 02

  JD Vance, I think, is actually, what was he saying here? He was like, bro, you guys, well, they're calling him the theorist, but he's like, bro, I'm seeing the stuff.

• 1:26:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So, where do you want to put JD here? Just tell me.

• 1:26:31Adam Sosnick?

  I think JD's good.

• 1:26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You think JD looks good or bad?

• 1:26:34Speaker 02

  I think he looks good.

• 1:26:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Where do you put, Tom? You think JD looks good?

• 1:26:36Adam Sosnick?

  I, I don't think he looks good. I think he looks a little, I think halfway between neutral and bad because they're saying, Susie Wiles said, "The Vice President's a conspiracy theorist."

• 1:26:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but if he's right, like, if he's right, that's the point, so that could be a good. How about if I put JD as neutral?

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  Neutral's fine.

• 1:26:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else do we have in the, who else do we have? Jelaine Maxwell, does she look good, bad, or it's irrelevant?

• 1:26:56Speaker 02

  No, she's gonna look worse.

• 1:26:57Adam Sosnick?

  She's a secretary.

• 1:26:57Patrick Bet-David?

  She's horrible. So, we're gonna put Jelaine here because they don't want to have anything. Blanche, how does Blanche look?

• 1:27:04Speaker 02

  Well, Bl- Blanche, like I said, Pat, used to be his lawyer. Now they put him as AJ. I would put him as-

• 1:27:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Neutral?

• 1:27:08Speaker 02

  Neutral.

• 1:27:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, great. But, but always, when, when stories like this come out, always pay attention to two people. Those who look horrible, those who look good. It's that simple.

• 1:27:21Patrick Bet-David?

  It's over. Do you understand what happened right there?

• 1:27:23Speaker 02

  So who was, who's the horrible Pat?

• 1:27:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So guess what?

• 1:27:25Adam Sosnick?

  Bondi looks horrible.

• 1:27:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Bondi is number one on steroids at the highest level.

• 1:27:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:31Patrick Bet-David?

  At the highest level. And who looks, you know, who looks good is Bongino.

• 1:27:37Speaker 02

  Yup, good friend.

• 1:27:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and do you think, do you think a Bongino sat there and says, you know what? The hell with you guys. I had your back. I had this. I had that. I had this. I had that. I'm not messing with this anymore. Do you think Bongino has access to New York Times? Do you think New York Times reached out to Bongino, had a conversation? Do you think those things are gonna be taking place? I mean, so you, so a part, a part of this is, and I'm not spec- I'm not saying anything about Bongino. I can tell you, when you're a man of character, one of the most annoying things where your brand, like if you, if you, if you're not known, like some brands are not known as man of character. So guess what? When your brand isn't character?

• 1:28:14Speaker 02

  The market tells you.

• 1:28:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, you don't give a shit. You're like, I don't give a shit. You know, I've never branded myself as a good guy. I'm the, I'm the, I'm the heel. I'm the bad guy. Yeah, I did that.

• 1:28:22Adam Sosnick?

  When Charles Barkley was like, I'm not a hero, I'm not a role model.

• 1:28:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So, but, but Bongino's brand has always been what?

• 1:28:29Adam Sosnick?

  I'm a Secret Service, I'm a stand-up guy, I'm honest.

• 1:28:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Pro-American.

• 1:28:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:28:33Patrick Bet-David?

  There is nobody that was more annoyed by what happened with Epstein than Bongino.

• 1:28:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody.

• 1:28:40Adam Sosnick?

  Cause he was-

• 1:28:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And this article and this book gives redemption to Bongino.

• 1:28:45Speaker 02

  And he deserves it.

• 1:28:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm feeling so far. And I may be wrong. I may be off, but that's my thoughts. Adam, you?

• 1:28:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, I'm looking forward to the other chapters and the other things, cause regime change wasn't just about Epstein.

• 1:28:58Adam Sosnick?

  I, I have two thoughts on this. I'll isolate each one. Number one, I've always thought that Dan Bongino was a good guy. I mean, I, I don't need to pat myself on the back. But I never got the impression that he was covering things up, or he was a bad guy, lying. I think it was a situation where he, you know, the whole Wizard of Oz thing. He took, looked behind the curtain, he saw what was going on and tried to make the, the best of what the situation is. But I have a different opinion on the Epstein situation, and, and I know it's a little controversial. I happen to find the Epstein situation a massive distraction, being utilized by the Democratic Party.

• 1:29:32Adam Sosnick?

  And what's the distraction, the core distraction? They could have done this at any given point during the Biden administration, the Obama administration. Why now? Well, maybe, maybe it's because during the Biden administration, who was the borders are Kamala Harris? Who was the, uh, what was Alejandro Mayorkas, the Department of Homeland Security?

• 1:29:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:56Adam Sosnick?

  How many millions of kids went missing? I'm sorry. How many millions of people came into the country? How many hundreds of thousands of kids? Here's some numbers for you. During the last X amount of years, 450,000 kids were missing. 450. Do you know how many the Trump administration has found in the last two years almost? 150,000, meaning they found they, there's still 300,000 kids missing. Now, what happens to these kids? According to, uh, Mark Wayne Mullen, who's the new Department of DHS, um, they were raped. They were sexually exploited. They were sold. They were drugged. Uh, and then here's the kicker. Where were the vast majority of these kids found? They were all found in sanctuary cities.

• 1:30:39Adam Sosnick?

  So to me, when I say the Epstein thing is a distraction, it's because, don't look over here at the hundreds of thousands of kids that are missing. They're being raped, being sexually exploited. Don't look over here. Let's all pay attention to the Epstein class. Trump's a racist. Trump's a pedophile. Trump's a Nazi. Look over there. Trump, Trump, Trump. But don't look over here. Don't look at the tens of millions of peoples that came into the country. Don't look at the hundreds of thousands of kids are missing and been drugged and raped. Let's focus on Trump. Did, was Epstein a scumbag? Yes. Do there are things that need to be held accountable? Yes. My whole contention is it's been used as a distraction by the left and a part of the right that fell for this. And it's all Epstein, all Epstein, all Epstein. And all these other people are left off.

• 1:31:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Adam, sometimes you're going to hire people. Look.

• 1:31:27Adam Sosnick?

  Am I, you're saying I'm wrong?

• 1:31:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. Hear me out. So when you, when you hire a, an executive, you know, you're not always going to get them right. You're not. And trust me, I've gotten them wrong many times. And, and the onus always falls on you or the people you asked that vouch for that individual. Okay? Okay. So here, the administration hired 4,400 people, give or take, when you go into the White House. Of the 4,400 people that you hired, you got the top 50 that are the most important job, whatever those jobs are. Bondi got a pretty big job. Now, the connection of Florida Attorney General, the massive job, right? Massive, massive job. And guess what happened? She failed at her job.

• 1:32:10Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:11Patrick Bet-David?

  At the highest level. And, but that doesn't mean this stuff didn't happen. That doesn't mean the Epstein stuff didn't happen. It, it, the Democrats are gonna use, your enemy's gonna use whatever, your enemy's never gonna highlight your victories, never. Like, imagine like the guys that make negative videos about us, go find one video that they highlighted something they do positive. That's just not how it works. The market doesn't work that way, right? And so, it, it, and this isn't like, you know, oh my god, you know, no, this is how the market works. The market is trying to look for change, conflict, controversy to sell. That's what media makes money off of, those three C-letter words, right? But to, to, to undermine this and say, this is not a big deal or not, this is coming back in a front.

• 1:32:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you know what story kinda set this aside for the last two and a half months? What story?

• 1:32:59Adam Sosnick?

  Iran.

• 1:33:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Iran.

• 1:33:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And guess what? Iran's about to be done. And when Iran is done, well, Iran's gonna be done here soon. When it's done, this was, this is gonna come back up. This is gonna make a comeback. This ain't going away. Ju- just so you know that, like, this is not going away anytime soon.

• 1:33:13Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think it's going away, but, but to your credit, yes, you said change, controversy, and, and conflict.

• 1:33:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:20Adam Sosnick?

  But there's a whole narrative, and I don't wanna take more than a second, that they think that Trump started the Iran war to just, as a distraction from Epstein.

• 1:33:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That's something.

• 1:33:29Adam Sosnick?

  People are idiots.

• 1:33:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That's their job. Let them do that. That's their job. We're supposed to do that.

• 1:33:33Adam Sosnick?

  I, I, I'm, I'm learning the isolation thing. Is that Epstein thing a real thing? Is it a real problem? Yes. But is it also being used as a, as a distraction to cover up from all the, this situation at the border?

• 1:33:46Speaker 02

  I say one thing that you said that.

• 1:33:47Adam Sosnick?

  You said Mayorkas was your number one enemy.

• 1:33:49Speaker 02

  Adam, 100%. No, no, I love that, that's a, that is a huge problem in itself, and that happened this past four years. Epstein has been around forever, and it wasn't the Democrats that. Said, hey, we're gonna release this and we're gonna release that. No, no, it was the Republicans, it was Pam Bondi, it was Cash Patel, and it was Dan Bongino. And then they came in and everything stopped because like you said, the curtain was pulled back. But this, don't get me wrong, and he nailed it. Yeah, the Democrats didn't start this, the Democrats went, oh my god, there's a problem, jump on top of it. It was the Republicans, it wasn't a campaign promise, but the moment they won, they're like, hey, guess what? The Epstein files are coming out.

• 1:34:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what could happen here, let me tell you what could happen here with the president. Because the president's sitting here, you can take different angles with Epstein on why this upsets the president, okay? So, the people that, the Democrats and the woke right who hates Trump, guess what they want this to be?

• 1:34:42Speaker 02

  They want this to be every day.

• 1:34:44Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, they want Trump to be on the list because he did something with somebody. They wanna say he is part of that pedophile camp.

• 1:34:51Speaker 02

  The Epstein class.

• 1:34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, not the class, cuz you could be part of the class cuz you have money and you're in the circle, but actual action, having gone to the island, not the fact that Clinton went there, not the fact that Clinton's painting is in the middle of Epstein's property that was given to him by Lex Wexner, that's, you know, whatever, 77 million dollar gift out. No, no, don't focus on that, we gotta, we gotta take Trump out, right? Okay, so, number one is, Trump's the target, okay? Number two is, Mossad's the target, why? Because he used Epstein to give intel to all these powerful people back to the Mossad? Do I think that happened? I'm 80% that's happened. I'm 80% that that, and there's no what Ehud Barak comes to your house, 32, whatever, whatever amount of times,

• 1:35:37Patrick Bet-David?

  oh, we're just hanging out playing backgammon, stop it. Okay, so, there's something going on there, so that's the second thing that they're trying to figure out. What's the third thing? The third thing is, you know, when it comes down to this, is, you know, you're dealing with the kids, we have to address this, we have to go, okay, no problem. To me, as you're going through these different issues, the president, if he comes out all of a sudden, and, you know, he, he says, look, cuz, let's just say the Mossad thing is happening. Let's just say the Mossad-Epstein thing happened. Who do you think's the most worried about that, if that did happen? Actually think if Mossad did use Epstein to gather intel Bibi? On world leaders, Bibi and who else? Israel? Yeah, of course. Okay. I have a different opinion, but.

• 1:36:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But lem, I'm just saying, remember, I'm saying if. Yeah. Everything here is if. Okay. So do you think if this keeps reappearing and annoying the hell out of this and people are saying that Trump is protecting who? He's protecting the wealthy class, right? The friends and people that gave him money, right? Donors. Okay, alright. Epstein class, yeah. Do you think a part of that could have happened? Okay, well, maybe that's the speculation that some, okay. But if this next phase goes through and Trump is sitting here saying, hey, man, I am so sick of this, imagine if Trump comes out and says, look, I don't know if Epstein was selling some intel to Israel, I don't know why Ehud Brock was, uh, at Epstein's house all the time, is Ehud Brock a Democrat or Republican? I think he's a lefty, right? He's a Democrat.

• 1:37:07Patrick Bet-David?

  That and that. Okay, so if Trump goes there and says, hey, I don't know why this Democrat from Israel is coming here, do I think he would use Epstein to spy on everybody? I think that's possible. I think if he goes and re, you know, readjust the messaging and allows the market to say, yeah, maybe there is a, and let Israel defend the argument instead of you having to defend the argument. I don't know if you get what I'm saying? I get it. Put the onus on somebody else to go out and come out there, defend the argument instead of you defending the argument, I don't know. But the reality of it is, this story ain't going away. I agree. It ain't going away and you gotta find a way to protect it and Bongino probably went out there and said, look, I'm not gonna have myself be the frickin' punching bag and

• 1:37:50Patrick Bet-David?

  there was a place Bongino was walking around with his wife and a guy came started saying, you're a pedophile protector, I don't know if you've seen this clip or not. It's at some event. Yeah, if you, if you find this on X, you'll see it, you're a pedophile protector, it's like, how many times can a guy with that kind of pride who does his best to be a good man? How many of those videos can he handle? Not too many of them. Not, not too many of them, not, not too many people can handle those types of things happening over and over again. Anyways, anybody have any final thoughts before we move on? Okay, let's move on. Alright, next story I want to get to. Is, uh, we can go into the Karen Bass story. Vinny, what is the story with Karen Bass's brother? Who is suing the city LA, who her brother is the mayor of?

• 1:38:29Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:38:30Patrick Bet-David?

  To get my, what the, what's the story about?

• 1:38:32Speaker 02

  There's a massive lawsuit against the city of Los Angeles after her brother's home, malleable home burned down in the Palisades. Uh, thousands, obviously, are suing the city claiming leadership failed to prepare for the response to the disaster. And the irony, it's brutal. She was already getting hammered for leaving to Ghana while the warnings. So I remember the leaked audio, Pat, that that guy, uh, put out that the dangerous winds were coming, the fire conditions were coming in, and then people were asking why the city looks so unprepared. The dry fire hydrants, the lack of resources, the confusion everywhere. And now her brother is suing the city that his sister runs. And I'm, like, this tells you everything. Even her own family, Pat, this is the irony of everything, gets burned by the city's incompetence. Okay, and imagine being the mayor of Los Angeles.

• 1:39:17Speaker 02

  You leave the country while you know that everything bad is gonna come, and then your own brother does this, okay? And honestly, you know what I would say? Like, your sister is the mayor. Skip the lawsuit, go to her office, and tell her this is next level failed leadership. And the crazy part, Pat, she'll probably still gonna be mayor, she's still in first place, and that's California politics in a nutshell. The city can burn down, leadership can fail completely in front of the friggin' entire country, and your own brother can end up suing the, uh, the very city that-

• 1:39:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's crazy. Is this the video? Go for it. We are learning LA Mayor Karen Bass's own brother is part of a massive lawsuit against the city over the Palisades fire. We're diving into the court documents, naming him as one of the plaintiffs. Thanks again for joining us live at ABC 7, Disney Plus, and everywhere you stream. I'm David Ono.

• 1:40:05Speaker 00

  I'm Liz Nagy, in for Giovanna Lara. Thousands of property owners who saw their homes burned to the ground in the-

• 1:40:10Speaker 02

  Like, is it, is it, is it wild, Tom? Like, does it boggle your mind that the brother of the mayor, who some would say is one of the main reasons why she wasn't even here when it happened, and you're trying to get money now from that city? Now taxpayers have to pay for it? Is that ridiculous?

• 1:40:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I have an idea.

• 1:40:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 1:40:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay. Karen Bass.

• 1:40:31Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:40:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Is she gonna win in November?

• 1:40:33Speaker 02

  One, I, very, very highly likely.

• 1:40:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's, it's up above 80% because-

• 1:40:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, because people love that. People love her.

• 1:40:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Unless something weird happens. Nithya Raman-

• 1:40:44Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, if you take the moderate Spencer Pratt voters who have been shut out, disenfranchised, whatever you want to say, and I think there's, and I think there's funny business, but I'll just say that that's what Tom Ellsworth thinks. So, okay, who are they gonna vote for? They're gonna vote for Karen Bass because they're not gonna take Nithya Raman, this, what they would say, crazy socialist Marxists. So therefore Karen Bass can be reelected. Karen Bass will then term limit out. Her 2026, 2030 will be it. She's out of term limits. I happen to think that she's turning a blind eye to this and she's allowing her brother to get a settlement from the, from the city. I don't think she cares. I think she's gonna

• 1:41:29Tom Ellsworth?

  let it happen and it's a way that, that graft is gonna go to her brother. I don't think they got together at the dinner table and says, "Hey, I got an idea, sis. I'll sue you." Or I'll sue the city. But he's not suing her, he's suing the city. And remember, her position is gonna be the same thing it was. She fired that police chief, remember the, the self-identified lesbian, remember her, and I'm describing her the way she described herself, and they tried to, and they tried to, you know, really paint that fire chief as having let the mayor down. So, this is Karen Bass. This is the way it's gonna go.

• 1:42:09Tom Ellsworth?

  "I fired the fire chief after too many things that broke in the public about our discussions, but that fire chief did it wrong. There was a lack of leadership. I'm with Angelino's." Yes. She's gonna allow money to go to her brother. That's what I think's going on. And I think it's dark.

• 1:42:29Adam Sosnick?

  I think it's a story that needs to be talked about. I just want to give a different perspective. Did you see what the New York Times wrote about what's going on in California? Did you see that specific article?

• 1:42:39Tom Ellsworth?

  No, not on this, but about voting, right? About the vote?

• 1:42:41Adam Sosnick?

  "New York Times rips California for indefensible lengthy vote counting process." The New York Times, the most leftist liberal magazine, newspaper.

• 1:42:54Adam Sosnick?

  Is ripping on California. Did you see this? Here's some of the words they said. They said, what happens in California is indefensible. The voting. It's a failure of government. There's no good reason that California takes so long to count votes. Most other large US states and cities, including those in Texas, Florida, Michigan, Virginia, do so very quickly. It's a burdensome process. And what's going on with this ballot harvesting in California? That was my own little two cents allegedly, not part of the article. But what is going on?

• 1:43:24Tom Ellsworth?

  No, the article talks about that.

• 1:43:25Adam Sosnick?

  Do you know how bad it has to get? When the New York Times is starting to rip on what you're doing on the left? That's like Fox News ripping on Trump.

• 1:43:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:34Adam Sosnick?

  It's, you don't see these types of things.

• 1:43:36Speaker 02

  How do you feel about her? How do you feel about her friggin brother suing the city that she's in charge of for failing? And then his house getting burned down?

• 1:43:43Adam Sosnick?

  What's the hypocrisy? And Nithya Raman, did you see what she had to say? She says, I blame voter frustration for supporting, all the support of Spencer Pratt. Yeah, you think? She says, I know many people in the city voted for Spencer Pratt, who gave voice to the fear and anger of so many in this city that people are feeling right now. Voter frustration is the reason that they're sick of what's going on in California. And they, whatever they did to basically flip it overnight from, she gave a concession speech. Did we, we covered?

• 1:44:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, we covered it.

• 1:44:22Adam Sosnick?

  She conceded the race.

• 1:44:23Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:44:24Adam Sosnick?

  I'm so sorry, guys. I let you down. And now she's gonna be in the runoff? I mean this, I mean this like rhetorically, burn California to the ground and start over.

• 1:44:34Speaker 02

  Well, they, guess what? Under her leadership, it almost did.

• 1:44:37Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 1:44:37Speaker 02

  By the way, James O'Keefe, since you went to that story.

• 1:44:39Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:44:40Speaker 02

  On Skid Row, Pat, they were, they caught people that were getting, paying homeless junkie, crackheads on the street.

• 1:44:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:47Speaker 02

  $2 to vote for, in the election.

• 1:44:50Adam Sosnick?

  You saw that?

• 1:44:51Speaker 02

  And there's so many videos of it.

• 1:44:52Adam Sosnick?

  I think I paid $2.

• 1:44:52Speaker 02

  Multiple, multiple videos. I showed yesterday, Pat, of literally homeless people going, yeah, they came, they gave me $2, they gave me $4, they gave me $5. And the lady that was actually on camera on James O'Keefe's thing doing it, Pat, paying these people, she was just arrested.

• 1:45:05Tom Ellsworth?

  And there's a picture of the ballot, empty ballot, and a post-it that said, you remember the name was? And it was funny. It was Karen.

• 1:45:11Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:11Tom Ellsworth?

  You are now Karen Williams, I think it was? Great.

• 1:45:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. Is this it? This is one of the people that was getting paid. Yeah. Can you play this video?

• 1:45:22Speaker 06

  And then, uh, did you, did they come down here and try and pay you to vote? Yes. Uh, on a ballot? Yes. Uh, they, how much they pay you? Five dollars. And they said here, come and vote for this candidate.

• 1:45:31Speaker 02

  That's better than the two bucks they give the other lady.

• 1:45:33Speaker 06

  You told her who to vote for? Yes. So, uh, they told you to vote for Karen Bass?

• 1:45:37Speaker 02

  That's a key to the city.

• 1:45:38Speaker 06

  Nithia Rama? Karen Bass. You voted for Karen Bass? Yeah. For five dollars? Uh, did you vote?

• 1:45:44Speaker 02

  Oh, this lady, two bucks, this lady.

• 1:45:46Speaker 06

  For Karen Bass? Yeah. Karen, they told you to vote for Karen? Yeah, that's the end of the thing.

• 1:45:52Speaker 02

  Poor freaking girl.

• 1:45:53Speaker 06

  And, and how much they pay you? It was like two bucks. Two bucks? Uh, to sign off on a, on a thing to vote for her? Yeah. They say, oh, do you want to vote for Karen or Nithia? Or they just really just tell you to vote for Karen, huh?

• 1:46:03Speaker 02

  They was really voting for her, man. They gave you an optional choice, but they tell you who they want to.

• 1:46:09Speaker 06

  They tell you who you want to vote for? So they go, we'll give you two dollars and, but you gotta vote for one of these two.

• 1:46:14Speaker 02

  Pat, how is, can I ask you, could you guys? Let me hear what he says. I'm a barber, man, so I got four dollars. Four dollars? Oh, he's a businessman. Well, here's, well, here's my thing, how is this not, Pat, the number one, so, they, they are paying people, and James O'Keefe always does a great job, and it's always like his stories never go past, like, like, people were arrested for it and then that's it. That's how all these votes are coming in, and there's all like sixty-two thousand votes that went up towards Nithia Rama or whatever it was? That's, that's about the average of how many people are there, hanging out, Skid Row.

• 1:46:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, James O'Keefe does a great deal. Pat, let me ask you. These are American citizens, so even if they pass the SAVE Act, they can't stop this corruption, can they?

• 1:46:52Speaker 02

  You understand what I'm saying? Like, they're American citizens.

• 1:46:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:54Speaker 02

  So there's corruption embedded in the system, and then externally from the system.

• 1:46:59Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's things that have to hap-

• 1:47:00Speaker 02

  It's a double dose.

• 1:47:00Adam Sosnick?

  There's things that would have to happen.

• 1:47:01Speaker 02

  What I'm saying is-

• 1:47:02Adam Sosnick?

  Ballot tonight.

• 1:47:02Speaker 02

  You're a California guy, I mean, how do they deal with something like this? You live there twenty years.

• 1:47:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't see what he passed five days before the election, what Newsom passed?

• 1:47:11Speaker 02

  What was that?

• 1:47:12Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't, he allows you to watch, but you have no right to question the integrity of the election. You can't question it. It's a crime nowadays, after what he did, May twenty-seventh, if I'm not mistaken, right? On May twenty-seventh, what was that again?

• 1:47:29Adam Sosnick?

  Mail in ballots.

• 1:47:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Mail in ballots, yeah, you can't even, it's like, no, no, no.

• 1:47:32Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean, what happens if you question it?

• 1:47:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You, like, listen, you know some, you know what's the most honest country when it comes on to elections? Like typically like cream of the crop, and I'm not just saying this because someone's in the room? Chile. You know how they do it in Chile? Can you pull up the clip on how they do elections in Chile?

• 1:47:45Adam Sosnick?

  Uh oh.

• 1:47:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, in Chile, when you vote, they allow cameras to come and see every vote that comes in, and they scream out the person's name.

• 1:47:54Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:47:55Patrick Bet-David?

  They'll say, boom, vote for here, boom, vote for here. You're watching every single ballot that comes in that's counted publicly with hundreds of videos in front of them. Like, streamers can go and record what you're doing.

• 1:48:08Adam Sosnick?

  Eliminates corruption.

• 1:48:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you press play?

• 1:48:10Adam Sosnick?

  Watch it. Full transparency.

• 1:48:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, look at this. Look how many mics are in their faces.

• 1:48:15Speaker 04

  Cuatro Johannes Kaiser.

• 1:48:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You have, you have people from the left, people from the right, and they're showing you who it's going to. So in Chile, they trust their election.

• 1:48:24Adam Sosnick?

  How many people live in Chile, by the way?

• 1:48:26Patrick Bet-David?

  In Australia, if you don't vote, it's a $20 fine.

• 1:48:28Adam Sosnick?

  Are you serious?

• 1:48:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, in, in, in, uh, in Chile and multiple other countries, the day before election and the day of, uh, election, you cannot have any liquor open, you cannot have any bars open. Every bar has to shut down the day and day before of election that they do.

• 1:48:42Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 1:48:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Every, yeah.

• 1:48:43Adam Sosnick?

  In Chile?

• 1:48:44Patrick Bet-David?

  In Chile. And, and, and I think in a couple of countries.

• 1:48:47Adam Sosnick?

  So you're sober and then they can't, uh?

• 1:48:48Patrick Bet-David?

  In a couple of other countries, restaurants are closed for 24 hours, like nothing. You can't go anywhere, they just want to make sure.

• 1:48:54Adam Sosnick?

  It's almost like a national holiday.

• 1:48:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, we have so much access to great technology to be able to make it 100% honest and trust. But I'm convinced they don't want this.

• 1:49:04Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:05Patrick Bet-David?

  They know, by the way, you know what's crazy? This is the part that we talked about the other day. Watch this. You know what happened with the game with the Knicks and the, and the, and the, what do you call it, the Spurs, right? Remember that one play? There was this play that Wemby goes to shoot a three. He hits the three and he gets fouled because Johnson was, uh, uh, hit him. Johnson's like, dude, the guy pushed me from the back. So, M, M, Robinson. So they go do the instant replay and they say, no, this is, guess what?

• 1:49:29Adam Sosnick?

  Give the foul.

• 1:49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  They overturn. And then on the other side, when Wemby's gonna go to catch the ball, they show the clip. Wemby's like, dude, these guys are pulling my arm down. The clip was that cam- was pulling his arm down, they flip and the position goes the other way. Can you imagine, Vinny, we have instant replay in in baseball. You can find out what the strike zone is and where the ball was. Yeah. You have instant replay in tennis to see if a strike, to see if it's an ace or not. You have instant replay in football to see if your foot was on the line or not. You have instant replay in basketball to see if, but no instant replay voting. Yeah. Cause guess what? You know, integrity in basketball, baseball, football is a lot more important than elections. Who cares about elections? You're just hiring the next president. This save act thing that went fifty to forty-eight with these four Republicans that sat out with,

• 1:50:15Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, a couple of these names. Mitch McConnell and the other. Yeah, a couple of these guys that sat out. I don't even think Messi was on that list. Was Messi on the list of four that didn't vote? No, you had. Oh, that didn't vote? He voted no. Oh, he voted no. Collins, Whitaker, ski, Thune, and. Collins, Susan's Collins is the one that I'm thinking about. Mitch McConnell. Can you imagine these guys, we were about to have the most powerful thing, tool to protect elections for everybody to have voter ID. By two votes, it didn't go through. That was one of the most important issues by two votes. Nobody wants election integrity. It's just a bunch of bullshit. They don't want no election integrity. It's side of the left. The left doesn't want no election integrity. If you want election integrity, you could do it like this. You don't want no election integrity.

• 1:50:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You, they want to say no cameras allowed. Remember one time we were going in there and we were recording, we wanted to kind of record the fact that we had all our employees recording. What do they say? Take your cameras out. What are you worried about? Yeah, exactly. What are you worried about? You know what they should say? Oh, come on in. Would you like a cup of water? Come on in. Bring the cameras in. We have nothing to be afraid of. Go record as much as you want. No, they don't want an integrity, election integrity. Anyways, okay, let's talk about, uh, two stories and then we'll wrap up. Number one, congratulations to Mexico. They beat South Africa yesterday. Uh, was it South Africa? Yeah, it was South Africa yesterday. Two to zero, three red cards. South Africa was pretty much trying to destroy the players. I think US today is playing Paraguay. Okay.

• 1:51:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Never in the history of a World Cup has there been three red cards in the first game. You know, you get kicked out of the next game when you get a. Yeah. Red card. They're done. Today, US is playing Paraguay, which should. Be great. By the way, I'm walking around the office. Every office I walk into when Mexico was playing, they were all watching the game. So guys, if you're watching this right now from Vitima line, hold on guys, come on guys. Come on guys, at least watching on a bigger screen, not on a smaller phone that you're watching these games with. But today, US is going out against Paraguay. It should be exciting. It should be interesting. Again, folks, for those of you guys that are watching this, you may want to go. For those of you guys that are watching, the guys gave me a list of the hats that sold the most. Okay. From the soccer hats that we had. Okay. Can you go to the hats on vtmerch.com? Check this out. US hat is number one.

• 1:52:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what hat was number two? Mexico was number two. But you know who was three? Iran was number three. Well, of course. Iran was number three. If you go on the hats, I think right there, if you go, you just had it a minute ago. Yeah. If you go there, Iran's hat with Shahan Shahi logo on it was three. Then you have Brazil, then Portugal, then Colombia, then Netherlands, then Argentina. So folks, if you want to represent your country, go get it here. And if you go a little bit lower on the Iran one, Iran was hot. Can you go to the Iran hat that we had? Uh, go to the picture next, Rob, if you could. Okay, there. Look at that. Look at the logo right there with Iran Shahan Shahi. Uh, that we have on there. Anyways, if you are wanting to represent your team, the shirt, go to vtmerch.com, get your gear on there. Let's wrap up with the final story.

• 1:53:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Knicks are playing the Spurs. The Spurs are in New York. Halftime, they're up something like 29 points. They got a lead. Everyone's saying the game is over. Dilly stays with me, says, Dad, please don't say anything because I don't think it's over. Good for Dilly boy. Wow. We sit till to the very end. And then going to fourth quarter, they got a 15 point lead. And then in the fourth quarter, they take the 15 point lead. And they end up winning by one point, the biggest comeback in the history of NBA finals, maybe even playoff history ever, but it's definitely the finals. It was the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen in my life. Charles Barkley, I don't know if you have this clip or not.

• 1:53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Charles Barkley called it, hands down the worst officiating he's ever seen in his life.

• 1:53:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Said this is the dumbest officiating I've ever seen in my life. I'll send it to you. It was so embarrassing. And by the way, if you're watching this, if you were a Knicks fan and you were at that game, guess what? You probably attended the greatest Knicks game ever. So if you paid $50,000 for it, or whatever the ticket price was, you got your money's worth. Halftime, is this it? This is it. Watch this, watch this clip, folks. Go ahead.

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• 1:56:13Speaker 05

  He did not have to shoot that ball. He could, they could have just got fouled. There was no reason him to shoot that ball.

• 1:56:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you see talking about the video I just sent you? The video I just sent you, you had a portion of it. Go to the video I just sent you and watch what he says here. It's a little longer. Watch this. Watch this clip here by Barkley. Makes a very good point. Go ahead.

• 1:56:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Refresh? Refresh? Oh, you can't do it. Okay.

• 1:56:38Speaker 05

  The dumbest basketball team.

• 1:56:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Dumbest basketball team.

• 1:56:40Speaker 05

  In the history of civilization. Wow. We saw they had a 25 point lead.

• 1:56:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You got that music in the back.

• 1:56:47Speaker 05

  Eight, eight straight threes.

• 1:56:48Adam Sosnick?

  Eight.

• 1:56:49Speaker 05

  Like, they thought to get, like, that was some of the most mismanaged, stupid basketball. Hey, when you blow a 29 point lead, the other team has to help you. The San Antonio Spurs.

• 1:57:01Patrick Bet-David?

  The other team has to help you. When you come back from 29 points, the other team has to help you. You can pause it right there. So are they playing tonight? Is the, is the next game tonight?

• 1:57:09Adam Sosnick?

  The next game is Saturday night.

• 1:57:10Speaker 02

  Saturday night, Pam.

• 1:57:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Saturday night, tomorrow night. So what do you think is gonna happen? It's back in the Spurs, I think, right? Back in San Antonio?

• 1:57:16Speaker 02

  There's no.

• 1:57:16Adam Sosnick?

  It's back in San Antonio.

• 1:57:17Speaker 02

  There's no way the Spurs can lose this. Like, this, for the fact, hold on. The fact that they got a 29 point lead means they're obviously ridiculously good. But what, that's a failure. There's no way they're gonna lose at home this game.

• 1:57:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:57:30Speaker 02

  That's my, that's my prediction.

• 1:57:31Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, I don't know who's looking down on the Knicks right now. Some say it's Allah, some say it's Jesus, some say it's Hashem. I don't know. The series should be 2-2 right now.

• 1:57:43Patrick Bet-David?

  It does.

• 1:57:43Adam Sosnick?

  Stephen A. Smith should be, he's feuding with Trump right now. He should be crying and begging for a game six in New York. Ultimately, here's what I think is gonna happen. It's going back to San Antonio. San Antonio is going to win.

• 1:57:57Speaker 02

  Tonight.

• 1:57:57Adam Sosnick?

  Game five, tomorrow night. They're gonna win. It should be a 2-2 series. They should be going back to New York up 3-2. They're gonna be going back to New York down. Two to, uh, down, uh, two to three. New York Knicks, Madison Square Garden, game six. Everyone's been saying Knicks in six, Knicks in six, Knicks in six. I'm sorry to disappoint you. I think the Spurs are the better team. I think the Knicks, by the glory of Allah, shout out to Mamdani, are somehow, uh, ahead in this series. I don't know what's going on here. I think the Spurs, I don't know if they need a, a coaching pep talk. I don't know if Charles Barkley needs to walk in there and slap some people around. I don't know if they gotta bring back David Robinson and Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.

• 1:58:40Adam Sosnick?

  They need to wake up and realize, Wemby, stop chucking threes from half court. Get your tall, skinny ass in the court and start dunking on people. And De'Aaron Fox, you, you're former All-Star. Wake up, buddy. And there's a, there's a, by the way, there's a superstar, Stephen Castle, Stephon Castle, and the other kid that's Ron Harper's son. Ron Harper came to the boardroom. That guy's incredible. But by the way, most underrated best player in the NBA is Jalen Brunson. If they win, it's because of Brunson. I think the Spurs are gonna pull this thing off still. Call me New York hater all you want.

• 1:59:11Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Spurs are gonna win the whole thing, come back from a two to, uh, three to one?

• 1:59:15Adam Sosnick?

  I think Spurs are gonna win game five, and I think this is gonna go seven.

• 1:59:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You think it's done? What are you, what are you saying? Game, is it done? Knicks are winning game what?

• 1:59:22Speaker 02

  I think the Knicks will win.

• 1:59:24Patrick Bet-David?

  If Knicks win tomorrow, it's over.

• 1:59:25Speaker 02

  No, I don't think, I don't think they win tomorrow. They'll win the next game.

• 1:59:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're Knicks in six.

• 1:59:29Adam Sosnick?

  Knicks in six.

• 1:59:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So Knicks in six.

• 1:59:31Adam Sosnick?

  Everybody's saying, shout out to Mano.

• 1:59:32Tom Ellsworth?

  My gut tells me, I'm a believer in emotion and momentum. And this really breaks a team hard. It would not surprise me to see the Knicks win, you know, or.

• 1:59:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Run a poll.

• 1:59:46Tom Ellsworth?

  A rather sedentary game by seven points in San Antonio, Pat. That would not surprise me. It is hard to get yourself emotionally off the mat after something like this happens. I, it will not surprise me there, but if it goes back to Madison Square Garden, I don't think the Knicks lose that game.

• 2:00:04Adam Sosnick?

  You're right. By the way, I want to give a shout out to somebody. The Knicks fans out there that are in the garden, God bless you. The Knicks fans that are outside in the streets. Could you be more disrespectful?

• 2:00:15Speaker 02

  Have you seen?

• 2:00:16Adam Sosnick?

  And more annoying and more disgusting.

• 2:00:18Speaker 02

  What, the Knicks fans in the street?

• 2:00:20Adam Sosnick?

  They threw eggs at Wemby. They're gonna burn down the streets. The pro-Palestine crowd will take over New York and burn that city down.

• 2:00:27Speaker 02

  Oh, Adam, they lit, they were lighting a guy's hair on fire that had a Spurs jersey. They went into five guys and beat the hell out of the kid that was working there. And he was trying to hit them with a basket of fries. No, like, no joke.

• 2:00:41Adam Sosnick?

  Absolute scumbags in New York right now.

• 2:00:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, do you have the clip with Wemby getting thrown the?

• 2:00:47Speaker 02

  Look at this. Pat, look at this. Look at this. This is inside a Five Guys.

• 2:00:50Adam Sosnick?

  This is Mom Downey's New York, ladies and gentlemen.

• 2:00:52Speaker 02

  Put the volume up. Look at this.

• 2:00:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean this is inside?

• 2:00:54Speaker 02

  This is inside of Five Guys in New York. Yeah, and look at this, Pat. This is the employee. They jump behind the counter.

• 2:01:00Adam Sosnick?

  Let's defund the police, though, New York.

• 2:01:02Speaker 02

  Look, look, Pat, he's trying to defend himself. Look. Pat, they really messed him up, too, like, blood.

• 2:01:06Adam Sosnick?

  No, but to be honest, he didn't include the fries in the order.

• 2:01:10Speaker 02

  Well, that's, yeah, but look at this. Look at this, bro. Look, hitting him in the head with a chair, that's attempted murder. Like, his head was cracked.

• 2:01:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 2:01:18Speaker 02

  Yes!

• 2:01:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Head was cracked?

• 2:01:19Speaker 02

  His head was cracked and bleeding. There's like multiple angles.

• 2:01:22Adam Sosnick?

  This is like PG 13 compared to what was going on in the streets.

• 2:01:25Speaker 02

  Oh, no, the streets, forget it.

• 2:01:26Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, do you have other videos?

• 2:01:27Speaker 02

  Look, look, bud, he's on the floor.

• 2:01:28Adam Sosnick?

  What New York is doing is disgusting.

• 2:01:29Speaker 02

  He's on the floor bleeding. By the way, your team won. This is the team winning. Well, Pat, did you see the one video that?

• 2:01:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch the Wemby one. Here's Wemby. I just sent it to you. Wemby getting hit in the.

• 2:01:39Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, this is New York for you, unfortunately. You see, look, boom, they hit him with an egg.

• 2:01:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back a little bit.

• 2:01:49Speaker 02

  Look, miss, boom, hit him in the head.

• 2:01:51Patrick Bet-David?

  First of all, that's the dumbest thing ever. But that kid would do very good at the circus shows when you're trying to hit targets.

• 2:01:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:01:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Not an easy thing to do.

• 2:02:00Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 2:02:01Adam Sosnick?

  He could win a big teddy bear.

• 2:02:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, but with all this negative stuff, with all this negative stuff, there was one positive. Humberto knows, I told you this beforehand. One positive thing came out of this entire Knicks run for the first time. I think New York sports may have solved the race relations about this country, Pat. Especially all the stories you talk about black and white. It might even have cured racism. Can you play this from the beginning?

• 2:02:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 2:02:25Speaker 02

  This is a black dude in the street after the win.

• 2:02:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Audio, audio on the top right.

• 2:02:33Speaker 02

  Got they back. You see it, you see it. The white people can say it. White people can say the N word. You better. You better. Oh, boys, boys, come on. Boys, come on. I'm not gonna hurt him. I'm not gonna hurt him. I'm giving a pass. Giving a pass.

• 2:02:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What's he saying?

• 2:02:44Speaker 02

  Giving the pass to the N word. I love you, niggas.

• 2:02:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I don't wanna watch it. I don't wanna watch this. I don't wanna watch this. I don't wanna watch this. So, yeah, so it's crazy what's happening with the streets. I do know this is a very good thing. By the way, viewership, did you see the viewership on what happened?

• 2:02:58Speaker 02

  It's gotta be the highest.

• 2:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, NBA viewership, the game three, not game four. Game three was one of the most viewed NBA playoff games ever in the history of the NBA. Do you know why?

• 2:03:10Speaker 02

  Why?

• 2:03:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Because LeBron James wasn't playing.

• 2:03:13Speaker 02

  And who was there?

• 2:03:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this number here, look at this. Twenty-six point three, fourth quarter, it peaked. That's game three.

• 2:03:20Speaker 02

  Is that true?

• 2:03:21Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't even have game four numbers yet.

• 2:03:22Speaker 02

  Okay, for my guy.

• 2:03:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Game four numbers, and the peak of all time is Michael, Utah Jazz, thirty-eight million, which was Michael's last game, was thirty-eight million until he came back and later on played for a couple of other guys. But I wouldn't be surprised when the numbers come back from yesterday to be one of the top five, top six most viewed NBA games of all time. Why? They're allowing him to play defense, it's aggressive, it's not flopping, they're playing strong, they're hitting each other. You want to see that. This whole Chris Paul, LeBron James, you know, era of soft, and by the way, including SGA, I'm convinced if SGA was in the finals, it wouldn't be this many eyeballs. I'm telling you right now, it wouldn't be this many eyeballs.

• 2:04:01Speaker 02

  It wouldn't, you're absolutely right.

• 2:04:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Because his game is a foul, you know, his game is, Brunson goes in and fights you. When, these are very, so, good for the two teams.

• 2:04:09Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:04:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That are playing aggressive and bringing back fans. And I hope it continues, and I hope they, if this goes game seven, game seven will be a top-three most-viewed game in the history of the NBA. If it goes game seven.

• 2:04:21Speaker 02

  Where do you think, where do you think it ends?

• 2:04:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Chances of going game seven.

• 2:04:23Speaker 02

  No, where do you think it, who wins and when?

• 2:04:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, I know this is gonna sound crazy, I mean, my opinion, the Spurs should be up three-zero. You know, the other two games they lost, you know, out of the four games they lost.

• 2:04:33Speaker 02

  Three-one.

• 2:04:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Out of the three games they lost, the two that they lost, they lost by one point.

• 2:04:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:38Patrick Bet-David?

  They should be up three to one. This is not even a conversation.

• 2:04:41Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:04:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so they should be up three to one, I'm thinking Spurs should win, I'd like to see the Spurs win, but at the end of the day, sometimes, Pompliano was here on Wednesday, we talked, he says, sometimes there's teams of destiny. And the way the New Orleans won many, many years ago, this could be a year for the Knicks to win.

• 2:04:59Adam Sosnick?

  After Katrina, you're saying.

• 2:05:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I think there's something here that has to do with that. We'll see, but I think to me, I like Wemby as the face of the league because the other team does not have a crazy, crazy superstar. The other team is like the Detroit Pistons that was beating everybody without a superstar. Chauncey Billups was not a superstar. You know.

• 2:05:18Adam Sosnick?

  Rick Hamilton, Ben Wallace.

• 2:05:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No, these guys were not superstars. That's just kind of a team. They were a team. They were a team. They were a very good team.

• 2:05:23Adam Sosnick?

  Well, look, the, the big winner here, to be honest with you, is the NBA. I know we've been harsh on the NBA.

• 2:05:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree.

• 2:05:28Adam Sosnick?

  They, they, they couldn't ask for a better finals.

• 2:05:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I agree. And by the way, that, that one thing on what, uh, what's his name said after the interview where he was sitting there getting emotional because he had visited a kid, Jalen Brunson.

• 2:05:38Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, Jalen Brunson.

• 2:05:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Very emotional video. Good for them. This is very good. They're doing it the right way. Last but not least, before we wrap up, Vinny, you have a, uh, Venting with Vinny on ValueTainment Comedy. If you guys haven't seen it, go check out the latest show. Venting with Vinny on ValueTainment Comedy. Maybe put the comment, uh, put the link of Venting with Vinny in the bottom of the chat for people to go find out. Vinny went off yesterday. Go watch what he had to say. Guys, have a phenomenal weekend. I don't know if we'll do podcasts on Monday. There's an event going on this weekend. I'm going to a wedding and I may be going to a fight. And if we do, we may not do podcasts on Monday, but we'll let you know if we do or if we do not. Having said that, enjoy your wonderful weekend. God bless everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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