Who Really Runs the World? Simon Dixon Exposes the Power Structures You’re Not Meant to See | Impact Theory w. Tom Bilyeu

Part 1: Who Really Runs the World? Simon Dixon Exposes the Power Structures You’re Not Meant to See Okay, buckle up—today’s episode is not for the faint of heart. I sat down with Simon Dixon, legendary investor, Bitcoin OG, and ex-investment banker, and let’s just say he’s not here to sugarcoat anything about who actually controls our money, our governments, and, yes—our lives. If you’ve ever felt like the system is rigged, but couldn’t put your finger on how, Simon paints the clearest, most disturbing picture of the power structures you never learned about in school. With every word, he pulls back the curtain on the “complexes”—military, financial, technological—that quietly shape global events. We go deep on how fiat currency is manufactured, why every government seems totally bought, and why your political choices may be more of an illusion than you’ve ever realized. (Seriously, if you care about understanding global power, wealth concentration, and what REALLY drives war and society, you need this episode.) SHOWNOTES [00:00] Simon Dixon’s Introduction: From investment banker to Bitcoin investor—why he’s the ultimate insider-outsider. [00:40] What is a “power structure”? Military, Financial, and Technological industrial complexes explained. [03:00] How profit and war are inextricably linked, and why companies truly “need” ongoing conflict. [04:17] Where does government fit? Why politicians are just actors and the real control lies elsewhere. [07:38] Understanding central banking: Why money is debt, and how the entire system is designed as a Ponzi scheme. [15:05] How the monetary system traps everyone with credit, debt, and obligations that literally cannot be repaid. [19:07] How politicians become useful to lobbyists, and how that advances careers (not people’s interests) [27:00] How net worth and CEO “success” are always, always conditional on compliance with the financial industrial complex. [34:51] The origin story of Israel, the British Empire, military profit—and how war and resource acquisition drive everything. [41:49] Why new technologies are tested in war zones, and how surveillance, data, and state control evolve from there. [46:20] How the system manufactures “acceptable” narratives: manipulating humanitarian crises for profit and power. [52:39] Who owns what? How wealth gets concentrated and why 10% control 92% of the global stock market. [54:11] Israel’s alignment with military industrial complex and why endless war is a business model. [57:07] Egypt’s resistance, IMF debt, and the mechanics of ending empires. 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• 1:07Speaker 01

  I think there's a small group of power structures that sit above countries that are running the show. There's no political solution in the West. There's no democracy. It's all a lie. The government is a distraction. The left versus the right is a complete distraction. You need a theatrical moment to define the end of empire and the transition to the new world order. There is a way of breaking the system if we wanted, but they don't want you to know that.

• 1:35Tom Bilyeu?

  What's the way?

• 1:38Tom Bilyeu?

  You have a very atypical way of viewing the power structures that actually make the world go round. And so I actually want to start there. Is it fair to say that there is a small group of people that sit above countries that are actually running the show?

• 1:56Speaker 01

  I think there's a small group of power structures that sit above countries that are running the show.

• 2:01Tom Bilyeu?

  What is a power structure?

• 2:03Speaker 01

  I like to call them complexes. I think the world really understood the military industrial complex as a group of companies and countries that have corporate interests that profit from war and that sell weapons. And so whether that be America, UK, France, Germany, Israel, that had a group of companies from Lockheed Martin, General Dynamic, Raytheon, Boeing, BAE Systems.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  Um. It is a a group of companies that have a well-oiled machine that requires a continual source of revenue that is derived from more profitable is war and less profitable is defence contracts. And their revenue has to continue. And structurally, they have fiduciary duties to shareholders. And they have to report quarterly earnings. And you can see in those quarterly earnings where most of their revenue comes from. And it gives you clues as to where the next war zone will be. And so I use just reading those balance sheets and where the contracts are

• 3:11Speaker 01

  to determine where the next war zones will be, uh, because they prepare. And so you can see narrative ratchets up in politics. But before that, contracts and revenue move. Um. And so the military industrial complex is an important part of it. Um. But there is a greater power than the military industrial complex. Um. And that is the financial industrial complex. And so the financial industrial complex does not have ultimate power uh, to one institution or one um, organisation. Uh, just like the military industrial complex, it is a group of companies uh, that perform very specific functions.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  And through controlling the creation of fiat currencies and the movement of capital globally, uh, they're able to influence um, and subordinate countries in order to get access to capital. And there's all sorts of different layers within there. Uh, the final layer is, um, the reason that I put finance above military is because all of those military companies are public companies. And so they need access to capital. They can either get it from the government through tax, you know, through bonds, um, or they can get it from um, capital markets. And so bondholders, shareholders.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  Um. And uh the government is just another form of bondholder, really, because it's just a piggybank for bondholders. Uh. They're able to influence um those capital flows and therefore governments uh need access to such capital. And they have all sorts of subordination structures, whether it be lobbying, whether it be uh deep state black op operations for blackmail. Um. Or whether it be just straight up access to capital markets. Um. But one of the other complexes that is incredibly important is the technological industrial complex.

• 5:15Speaker 01

  And so that is, you know, the fifty percent of the S and P is, uh, you know, fi- uh, like the magnificent seven companies now almost. Um. And that includes access from data, data centers, algorithm, uh, the ability to engineer via neo media um, and perform operations uh by controlling algorithms. Again, the technical industrial complex is a series of companies. Um. They normally and uh they are subordinate to finance because they need access to capital. So if you're trying to simplify it down, I call it a financial industrial complex.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  And governments serve their agendas and governments are subordinate to uh their control grids and structures.

• 6:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so so far we have three named uh power structures. We have the financial industrial complex, which sits on top of everything. We have the military industrial complex, which seems to be something that has found a very profitable way to benefit from what I'll call human tendencies. Um. And then we have the technological industrial complex, which feels, if I'm interpreting it right, relatively new.

• 6:35Tom Bilyeu?

  So are these complexes something that arise organically that will always exist no matter what structure, no matter how countries are aligned? Or was this something where somebody sat down and said, here are the three ways in which we can manipulate the public? And we just have to get this set up? And it was very intentional? And it was like, okay, you're gonna be the financial industrial complex, you're gonna be the military? Like, how did that come? Is this a top-down or a bottom-up phenomenon?

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, it evolves with time and adjusts with time. But throughout human history, we've had different labels for very similar systems. Whether it's a country having a monarchy, or whether it's a democracy, or whether it's, you know, whatever government structure. It's always a few incredibly wealthy people that rule the masses and co-opt the system and just put a different label on top of it. But in terms of if we were to simplify this down to the modern version of it today, and we could go back thousands of years if we wanted.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  But if we were to simplify it down, I'd say it's central banking at the base layer. And the ability to create currency in a Ponzi-like structure has a series of incentives that lead us to a game of monopoly that ultimately concentrates power in normally historically one region. But now it's increasingly more transnational and global and is less dependent upon any one country or jurisdiction.

• 8:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, let's stop there because I think for anybody hearing that for the first time, there are enough phrases in there that they won't necessarily understand. So the reason that the central bank sits at the bottom of this pyramid is because we are in an economic structure where the money is fictional and so we just have to get everybody to grant this bank has the power to create money. Is that how they exist at the bottom of this structure?

• 9:00Speaker 01

  So it's a, if we were to put this into a triangle, the central bank is the guarantor of the system.

• 9:07Tom Bilyeu?

  What's the system?

• 9:08Speaker 01

  The monetary system.

• 9:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  And so let's start at the, at the base layer, how money is created in very brief terms. Money is created by a private commercial bank. And so a loan has to exist in order for a bank to create a credit, which is the money supply. And so if you want to borrow $1,000, then you go to a bank and that bank has a authority and license to create $1,000 to deposit into your current account.

• 9:42Tom Bilyeu?

  And who gave them that license? The government or the central bank itself?

• 9:46Speaker 01

  The, well, regulated by the central bank, but the license, the, the law, the legislation comes from Congress and from, from the government.

• 9:55Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, I don't want to derail the story too hard, but when you were laying out the initial three structures of power, government wasn't listed as a fourth. It was talked about as being subordinate to finance, but so was the military industrial complex. And one of the things we will have to answer for in all of this is the people. And as I have tried to map your worldview, the people do start to become like these mindless, easy to control things, feels like the base assumption. And so is there a difference between an easy to control population and the government that they elect?

• 10:34Speaker 01

  I think that the people have very little say in who gets elected. Um, I think the lobby is the most significant um, player.

• 10:42Tom Bilyeu?

  The lobby or lobbies?

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Lobbies.

• 10:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  And there are several.

• 10:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Of what, using money to influence politicians, or is there something deeper there?

• 10:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I see um, I see politicians as actors, WWE actors. Their job is to create an acceptable narrative to justify why all of the money is serving a smaller group of private corporate interest.

• 11:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so it's bread, circus, and government.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 11:14Tom Bilyeu?

  So those are the things that if you're well-fed, if you're entertained, and you have a plausible story of like, oh, I can influence this system. You can numb the people out enough that the power structures that are actually, and I'll say, when I say running the system, I think you mean um, controlling resources and money such that they can acquire the highest utility thing in the world, which is access to capital.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  Well, um, money is just a construct to end up with the assets that they actually want, which is the real estate, the gold, the hard assets, the real assets. Um, by being able to create the money, they're able to swap money, you know, as value that is designed, as we were about to go into, to go down in value in exchange for assets that are designed to go up in value. Um, and so what they actually want is resources, strategic choke points, commodities, um, real estate, land, um, gold, um, more recently Bitcoin. Um, and so they are just using a fiat currency system in order to acquire assets.

• 12:26Speaker 01

  And then eventually, in a cyclical nature, the slow destruction of purchasing power of that fiat currency hits the point where it gets to an end of a cycle, and therefore they throw, throw the monopoly board, reset the board and start again. Um, and that's where I think we are right now. Um, that's a typical, you know, can take a decade or two in order to manage such a transition, um, but I think we're there right now.

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• 16:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action.

• 16:29Tom Bilyeu?

  We'll get to that in a second because that's very important for people to understand what these transitions really are. To understand the way that you'll walk us through it, though, we have to put a final sort of word on these power structures, where the government fits in, where the people fit in. Then I think people will be able to track the, what I'll call the swarm of locusts that gobble up resources in one area and then take the control and wealth that they're able to extract from that, move on to the next to gobble everything up there. But for that to make sense in terms of the mechanism, we need to, to put a bow on these different power structures. So when I first encountered your ideas, the one thing that I had a hard time accepting was

• 17:15Tom Bilyeu?

  There's a sense of coordination that I don't believe humans are capable of. And the reason I think that is when you look at a TV show like Succession, I think that it reveals something true about people that play these very intense power games, which is it requires somebody who's, I'm going to round this stuff, but narcissistic, hyper aggressive, low in empathy. And so they'll be fighting within their own family to make sure that like if a father has a very aggressive son, that the son is kept in check. And so they'll do horrible things to their own children to make sure that they're subservient to them.

• 17:58Tom Bilyeu?

  And so if they're willing to do that to their own family, I have a hard time buying that there's this hyper cooperative group of elites that exist above this system. Now, you've been very clear to say these are power structures. And so that's probably the first important piece of this. But are these power structures not in competition internally for control of the Fed, the Pentagon, the whatever, like they're going to be, they'll already be infighting. And then there's going to be a war happening between the financial industrial complex, the technical industrial complex, like they will have their own wars. So how should people understand how this machine

• 18:42Tom Bilyeu?

  will be capable of doing the thing we're going to go to next, which is literally go bleed England dry, then bleed America dry, and now presumably we'll move on to China and bleed China dry. Like, how is it possible for that level of coordination to exist?

• 18:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  So I think what we firstly, it is a ruthless game. And just like in a mafia, there is a hierarchy and preservation of the structure overrides anyone that tries to deviate and play a power play. And so structure and architecture become really important. And so people-

• 19:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Do you have real world examples of where a person challenged the structure and was dealt with?

• 19:29Speaker 01

  Um. I think JFK is the one of the most obvious examples in terms of American. I mean, there's example after example. I mean, we could even go more into questioning what happened with Trump. Uh. What happened with Charlie Kirk?

• 19:43Tom Bilyeu?

  I think. But please.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  Let's um, let's go a, I think, a layer back. So um, the monetary system is a Ponzi scheme by nature. So I talked about that all money is created as credit.

• 19:54Tom Bilyeu?

  Mm hmm.

• 19:55Speaker 01

  And so if you want to create a thousand dollars, it has to be borrowed into existence. That is the nature of money is just a digital entry in a bank's computer. Um. But it also needs to be repaid plus interest. Um. And so the game that was engineered in firstly, the Dutch Empire, then the British Empire, then three times in America with the central banks. Um. And then global central banking um that exists today is that there's not enough money to pay the interest.

• 20:27Tom Bilyeu?

  It just literally doesn't exist.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  It doesn't exist. So there's only two ways of solving that problem. The money either needs to be invested in an asset that appreciates in value that can then cover some of the interest. Um, or um, you keep rolling over the debt. And so that is the game. Um. The game is that if too much of that money is just invested in non-performing assets, then the system breaks. Uh. Because you, when you repay that loan or default on that loan, the money disappears. And so you have the reverse cycle. Um. And so every time that happens, you need a guarantor to the system.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  So the banks get to create the money and they receive the additional interest. And the only way to do it is to roll over. And so they have a, a risk management profile of who they should be lending to in order to meet that goal.

• 21:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Because the system must grow at all times to continue working.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  Absolutely, yes. Um. And uh, and that creates an incentive structures in all sorts of levels at the individual level, the corporate level, the government level. But the central banking system was created to guarantee the system. And so the central banking model effectively does a couple of things. It guarantees that when a bank takes excessive risk, that they're too big to fail, as we saw in two thousand and eight. And therefore, the government is on the hook in order to bail out the system, which creates a moral hazard, which means that you know, bad behavior, you can be over speculative, knowing that you'll be guaranteed.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  And the other thing it does is it creates mechanisms for the government to infinitely borrow.

• 22:22Speaker 01

  And so the bond market, it can be a buyer of last resort for a government that can no longer find people to invest in their in their debt. That's where we're at right now. So in America, the auctions, approximately forty percent of the auctions are now being mopped up by reverse reserve brokers and the Federal Reserve itself.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  And remember, gone a bit far here, but the Federal Reserve is owned by the banks. So the shareholders of the Fed are the banks. And as you put more and more money or government debt on that balance sheet of the Fed, they even receive a six percent dividend per year from that money. So the bigger the balance sheet gets, the more they get. And but the banks are taking the risk. So the government just effectively becomes a piggy bank for rolling over this debt. And then they want to make sure that the debt goes to them. So the government is the other half of that. And the government's job is to take on the debt.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  And then you need a mechanism for getting that debt into private control. Uh, which is the stock market. Um, so the stock market is make sure that that debt goes to prop up these stocks or or contracts. And so they need a lobby in order to uh make sure that uh they can have an auction system. Uh, where all of the politicians become as useful to all these different lobbies. And they auction them off and your career only progresses if you deliver enough value for the lobbies. Um, and and that is the career, the the career of a politician is to make up a narrative to pretend that he's doing stuff for the people.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  While serving the lobby and the more useful they get to the lobby, you ultimately may get to be play president.

• 24:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Very interesting. I think it is um it's important for people to understand that you say the lobby as if it's one thing. But it's really a bunch of competing interests. Is that true or false?

• 24:36Speaker 01

  True.

• 24:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Because in America, right now, in this moment, when people hear the lobby, they think AIPAC. And so it triggers a what Michael Mouse would call a mousetrap of like it's the Jews. And so, and maybe that is the theory, maybe it's not, but when I think of it as uh this is a whole bunch of competing interests. But they're all motivated by the same thing, which is I want access to power and capital. So to your point about structurally, they're not arguing, maybe about the specifics they are. But uh, there's two things I think important. One, people need to understand that lobbies find their candidates very early. So they'll find them at the city level. And they'll say, go do this thing. And if they go do that thing, then they fund them more.

• 25:20Tom Bilyeu?

  And then they say, go do this thing. And then if they do it, they fund them more. So by the time they get to the national stage. Even if it's just that they really believe those same things and they really are fighting with their conscience. But they have the lobby, meaning they, the lobbies, any one of them. When they're looking for candidates, they start with a really broad field. And then only the ones that are useful to them, even if it's useful, again, out of their own true beliefs. They find the ones that will serve their interests the best. That's an important thing to know. And then second, we need to understand the mechanism by which all of this is funneled into the stock market. And you said it happens, but can you walk us through how it happens?

• 26:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. So let's do an example of lobby. So J D Vance, for example. His name's not J D Vance. He was groomed by Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is a keynote in the technical industrial complex. And he was DARPA funded, which is a venture capital arm of intelligence and military. And he created Palantir. And he is given military-grade technology that was created by the government with a Pentagon budget. That is then transferred over to private through private, you know, private-public partnerships.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  And so every piece of technology, almost every single one of them, if you do a similar forensic investigation. It was all of the American innovation was originally invented for killing people. And it was handed over to a company and they groom entrepreneurs. And create a story around that entrepreneur that is often very sensationalist. But they are often chosen to receive that technology.

• 27:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, who's the they in this situation? Are we back to the lobbies or? Like, because I look at Peter Thiel, and I may have, this may just be me with a completely distorted view of what's real. But I look at Peter Thiel and I think, this guy's smart. He has been out there talking about the way that he views the world and how things should be for a very long time. Since the time he was at Stanford, he's been working with David Sacks, they wrote a book together. Like, this isn't somebody who I would say is obviously a product of some other thing. This feels like a guy that really knows his shit. Now, people might, I mean, people call him the Antichrist, but I'm not debating that. I'm just saying he's very effective.

• 28:00Tom Bilyeu?

  I would put forward that he's effective without whatever secret thing is behind the scenes. Now, he may be amplified by getting access to things other people don't get to. But help me understand, do you see him as somebody that was groomed like from nineteen, twenty years old or?

• 28:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's, look, there's a spectrum, right? And everyone's got their, their own different story. But there is a process, just like when you want to climb a mafia. There's a process of becoming more useful to the financial industrial complex and getting access to capital. And J D Vance is a good example. So he was groomed by Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is very much involved in the police and surveillance state. Military-grade artificial intelligence technology that is getting global government contracts right now.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  To commit crimes against humanity in many countries, including Gaza. So it was Palantir's technology that was deciding, I call it genocide as a service. I call what they're doing in West Bank occupation as a service. I call what they're doing with pre-crime arrests and scraping social media data in the UK. As pre-crime Palantir technology. But anyway, so if you're, if you're in a mafia, they first try and bring you in. They put you in a compromised situation where you're desperate. This happens when they build militias all around the world and various other things through war zones. Then you get some financing.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  If you're trying to achieve something, there's different degrees of this model. If you are useful with that financing, you get more financing. And if you're useful with that, you get more financing. And then eventually you hit a level where you have to join a compromise network. And so this is often when I worked in investment banking. There was a level where I got to. Where they want me being a bit more degenerate.

• 30:10Tom Bilyeu?

  This is a good time. Give us a quick rundown of your background, then we'll pick back up with the degenerate offer.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  My background is I used to work in investment banking. I started in stockbroking. I was basically selling shares. I then worked in market making. I learned that that's all about market manipulation for the financial industrial complex.

• 30:31Tom Bilyeu?

  And do you feel you were being groomed at this point?

• 30:33Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 30:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Knowingly like, hi, I'm Bob, I'm here to groom you? Or they were just like seeing if you would rise up the ranks?

• 30:41Speaker 01

  There's a culture which makes you succeed and there's a culture which won't let you succeed.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  And so when I went to corporate finance, whereas helping companies go public and constructing some of these types of plans where you scenario plan and figure out, okay, what contract would you get in this type of warzone? And various other types of constructions in investment banking. They want you compromised. And so, you know, it starts with inviting you to parties. It then involves asking you to, you know, do things at parties. Whether it be drugs, whether it be sleeping with prostitutes, whether it be any of that, because they want you in the compromise network.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  They need you where they've got something on you. Um. And if you choose not to partake, you're not going to progress. Hmm. Um. You know, I left in two thousand and six. Um. And I could see who succeeded and who doesn't succeed. Um. Once you have compromise, and if you're at the higher echelons of compromise, you've got very sophisticated networks, like the Epstein revelations. Um. And, uh, you know, then everything's about leverage. And the more you succeed, so you've got to remember, most people think of Peter Thiel as a wealthy billionaire.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  Um. I think of a billionaire as somebody um that has a billion dollars of gold or could send a billion dollars of Bitcoin. Most people's net worth is dependent upon compliance with the financial industrial complex. Even Elon Musk. Elon Musk was allowed to buy Twitter because he was able to place his Tesla stock as collateral in order to get a loan from the financial industrial complex, whether that be JP Morgan or Citi. Then he is told what investors will be co-investing, which is the Gulf Sovereign Wealth Funds, other transnational capital.

• 32:55Speaker 01

  Um. And then he is constructed with share options where if his share price goes up, um, then his net worth increases, but they lever his net worth to the kill. So that if he ever does not comply, um, then they can knock down the share price and they can knock down his net worth and draw him back into compliance. And we've seen that with Elon Musk a lot. You know, when we've had these tit for tat with Trump, um, when we've had, you know, focus on Tesla, oh, now you get Goldman Sachs is giving you a two trillion dollar SpaceX, um, IPO.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  You have to by your fiduciary duty to shareholders and who are those shareholders? BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, Transnational Capital, Gulf Sovereign Wealth Funds, Chinese shell companies. Once you work for Transnational Capital, once you are trying to at the highest level IPO, your net worth is dependent upon compliance with the financial industrial complex by design, by design. They create subordinate structures through the process of securitization, through debt, through compromise networks, through leverage, through blackmail operations. And the higher you want to go, the more compromised you generally are.

• 34:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Do you have a sense of what Elon was doing that got the tit for tat with Trump to trigger? If that really was, you know, the power structures bumping him back in line, what was it? What was he doing that they didn't like?

• 34:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, power plays. So Elon is a node in the technical industrial complex. Trump works primarily for the financial industrial complex and the technical industrial complex. He's not a neocon. He's not a military industrial complex guy, but he needs to compensate them if he's going to give more power to finance. That's why you have to compensate them with various wars and operations that reset things.

• 35:04Tom Bilyeu?

  So the way to understand the guy that comes to power saying no new wars, the reason that he then started wars is because I've got to balance these guys out. I want to do all my crazy stuff over here for the financial industrial complex, which already love me because I'm aligned with them. This is just how I operate, but I've got to throw a bone to these guys. So I'm just going to go blow up Iran real quick.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, but then there's bigger opera. He doesn't decide to blow up Iran. You know, his job is to give a story of why he's blowing up Iran.

• 35:33Tom Bilyeu?

  So somebody comes in and is like, we are blowing up Iran. So get good at explaining this.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah, you need to come up with a narrative. And that's why I think his, his social media posts are so inconsistent because he doesn't necessarily know what's coming next and he's not deciding. You know, these are the longer term operations. These are like multi-decade operations in order to reset energy flows, ports, access to ports, split the world up. Um. These are long term negotiations based upon power dynamics way above Trump. But even if you look at Trump himself, he's a great example. Um. Let's look, who were his three biggest funders to his latest campaign? Uh. The number one was Elon Musk, two hundred and fifty million dollars. Um. And he's a node in the technical industrial complex.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  Number two was the Mellon banking family, um, the financial industrial complex. Um. And number three was Maryam Edelston, who's your Israel lobby, who Israel is a node in the military industrial complex. Um. And so what you'll notice is there's different factions and you did the the Israel conversation earlier. AIPAC is the fourteenth most important lobby, but they have plausible deniability stories. And right now, they are utilizing the extraction of the Israeli asset. And they are deliberately allowing uh social media influencers to destroy the reputation of Israel.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  This is not to say that Israel isn't involved in crimes against humanity like. I I I spend a lot of time. You, I almost have to take off my analytical hat and put on my humanitarian hat sometimes because people confuse me. If I put on my humanitarian hat for a second, um, I spent years on the Palestinian cause. Um. It is the the sickest crimes against humanity. Um. What is being done? It is a laboratory for the technology that America cannot test. So it does it in a Palestinian laboratory. Everything that is coming home right now was tested in the most extreme circumstances to kill Palestinians.

• 37:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Can you give me some examples? Is this technology we're talking about?

• 37:48Speaker 01

  So the goal of Palestine was to set up a series of events that would lead to the complete destruction of Palestine. Um. There was a bribe that was set up to Egypt, where they were men who accept eighteen billion dollar debt forgiveness by the IMF in order to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians and put them in the Sinai Desert. That was a forever war model. Greater Israel project is a narrative in order to justify the destabilization of the Middle East. That's been going on for a long time.

• 38:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Um. Did Egypt do that?

• 38:27Speaker 01

  Uh. Egypt didn't do that because they aligned with another power structure, which is the Gulf countries. And the Gulf countries, interestingly, became more important as China rose. And so as China's buying so much oil, their sovereign wealth funds goes up. They then became one of the major shareholders in BlackRock. The CEO of Saudi Aramco gets a board seat on BlackRock. Now they have influence over the most important node in the West, which is BlackRock. Um. Now, they didn't ethnically cleanse the Palestinians because the Gulf countries and China had an alternative plan.

• 39:08Tom Bilyeu?

  We're hitting pause for a moment, but there's plenty more ahead, so don't go anywhere.

• 39:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action. So this goes back to what I was saying about these power structures are competing.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 39:21Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it? Okay, so Egypt aligns with a power structure that doesn't agree, so they don't do it. So this amorphous, competing blob goes up. We have another option. I'm guessing you're gonna say that is the Israel option? Like, how do we end up where?

• 39:41Speaker 01

  Okay, so once you get beyond the nation-state level, if you can buy into that thesis, um, you can see that factions of power are aligned within these complexes. So let's take the Middle East, which is one of the most complicated ones, uh, but let's take it. Um. So Israel was a construct of the British Empire. Um. It was created uh between the British government for Walt Rothschild, who was a prolific war financier.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  The Rothschild family's game was funding both sides of wars. And that has been a constant theme throughout. Now, this is a time in which the British Empire needed vast oil resources. We were in an industrial revolution. We were transitioning power from the British Empire to the American Empire. The British East India Company had bankrupted the UK government. The Bank of England distributed all the assets to the financial industrial complex. And then we set about doing the same in America. You know, prior to that, you had the creation of the Federal Reserve, World War One. And Israel was declared via the Balfour Declaration from the British Empire to Rothschild

• 40:53Speaker 01

  in nineteen seventeen, the same year that Wall Street funded the Soviet Union and the Bolshevik Revolution to implement communism in Russia. So that you, so that most of the Russian gold ended up there. That's the, that's, that's the background. And by the way, the same family, the Warburg family that was on the board of the Federal Reserve was also on Reichsbank, the German central bank that transferred much gold to the Hitler regime every time he invaded a country. So you had fascism, you had the Federal Reserve system in America, and you had the communism that was all funded via the same type of structure, this financial industrial complex.

• 41:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, for this, for this all to make sense, I need to follow one line of questioning for a second to see where it terminates. So the British government decides that they're going to go along with the Israel project. The reason they wanted to do that, if I understood you correctly, is they owed something or they wanted to win over the Rothschilds. So they say, cool, this thing matters to you. For reasons we have not yet discussed, but it matters to you. You want it, we'll give it to you. But you're gonna have to keep funding war. Like, what were they hoping to get in that exchange?

• 42:18Speaker 01

  Exactly. And not only we have to keep funding war, you have to keep funding war. Uh, because war is the industry. What is, what is the industry? The industry is finance war. That war then leads to the uh, ability to steal resources that are needed. Um, those resources then lead to massive destruction. That massive destruction leads to rebuild contracts. And those rebuild contracts is what makes up a massive amount of GDP in such an economy. Um, so then you have resource, resource acquisition, profit from war, profit from the rebuild.

• 42:58Speaker 01

  Um, and then also when the rebuild more recently today, you have control grids with Palantir and technology and Oracle and all the different complex um, nodes within that structure. Um, so there is a very well-understood model that was done by the Dutch Empire, the British Empire, and covertly into the American Empire. Uh, and it's always been, it's always been the model. So they needed oil resources and destabilization. So war allowed them to break up the Middle East, install monarchies, call it Seis Bico, which was the French Empire and the British Empire, and make sure that the region is always at war.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  And that was the design. Um, and Israel was a node connected to military industrial complex in order to create a false narrative, the weaponization of religion, to have a story for the people. Um, while they're actually just causing havoc in the region and destabilizing the region. Um, and at the higher levels of power, they're weaponizing both the Muslim faith, the Jewish faith, and the Christian faith, which is how all wars are done, whether it's Christian crusaders, um, whether it's recruiting radicalizing Jews in order to join the IDF, whether it's operations to create the fake war on terror,

• 44:24Speaker 01

  um, whether it's evangelical Christianity believing that they can weaponize the Bible, retranslate it, and say that you need to protect Israel.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  Um. These factions of power are aligned. So the Zionist narrative in Israel answers via the lobby. People think like Netanyahu is in charge. He's like, he's, he's just middle management. He, he answers to the military industrial complex, which is stockholder value, Albert Systems, and all of the different evil technologies that are created and tested in these war zones. Uh, but who is he aligned with? He's aligned with the neocons in America. The neocons also just happen to support evangelical Christianity and the protection of Israel. And so, as I said, they're actors.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  Um, these people are pretending that they, you know, that they care about this, but they don't care about the 10 commandments and the evil that's that's created from it. There is also interesting stuff within the Iran side. Um.

• 45:31Tom Bilyeu?

  I think before we get there, because this started, um, I'm trying to figure out what was being tested in Israel that's making its way back. Um, so that helps paint the picture of the destabilization, uh, which allows for resource acquisition, um,

• 45:52Tom Bilyeu?

  understanding the whole time that there's like these different fighting factions, but uh, we were trying to understand. So Egypt is like given this opportunity. Hey, you can, um, ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. They reject it. I'm still trying to get the answer for, from where I'm sitting. It looks like Israel is going, oh, cool. Yeah, we'll take the ethnically cleanse vibe. We're here for that. But the actual immediate question that we're trying to answer is the US is using this or the military industrial complex is using this as a testing ground uh, for presumably things, uh, weapons and technology that they will later use in larger scale wars to move larger amounts of resources, if I'm understanding what you're saying correctly.

• 46:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. And the main thing they built out was through technologies like lavender, um, which is a Palantir technology that committed the genocide was using facial recognition surveillance software in order to create the optimum amount of chaos without actually looking like it is a genocide. And targeting border control, all of the security stuff that's actually now being utilized in the UK, Ukraine, Europe, Saudi Arabia, and even America right now with border policies. And so all this technology comes home, maybe in a less extreme version, but they do the

• 47:17Speaker 01

  really extreme stuff over there. But then it comes home. And this is the construct of the police and surveillance state that's being built in the name of technological innovation. And that's privatized. The government pays for it, then the technology is transferred over to private partnership. They get more and more government contracts, and then they go public and the financial industrial complex takes over through creating, you know, subordination vehicles that we talked about.

• 47:54Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, let me, let me ask just a calibrating question. Are there good guys and bad guys in any of this? Or is this just all bad guys?

• 48:00Speaker 01

  You could be as good as you want, but you won't progress unless you comply with the structure. So wild cards do exist, of course. And in my experience, it is designed to slowly bring out the worst behavior in you.

• 48:19Tom Bilyeu?

  The climb to power?

• 48:21Speaker 01

  The climb to power.

• 48:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay. And that's because that's the thing that is leverageable.

• 48:26Speaker 01

  Yes. And so if you don't do it yourself, naturally, it will be enforced upon you. Otherwise, you won't make it.

• 48:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay. And I do want to keep coming back to the people at large, because I can tell from my own sanity, I'm not going to want to live at the level of all these power structures.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  Well, you already have, because this is centuries old.

• 48:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes and no. So the one thing I will say that I bump into with your. I'm not even saying I will yet contest it, but there's an element of the power structure that I think you leave out that this is the perfect time to talk about, which is the masses have a very powerful role to play, which is the compromat only works on people because they, because they're all compromised. So they don't give a shit. Like if you're raping kids or whatever to them, that's who cares. What they know is I'm going to show this to the masses and the masses are going to turn on you and they will tear you apart. And so that feels very powerful for me as somebody who views himself as a part of the people

• 49:29Tom Bilyeu?

  and not a part of the power structure. And so just as a point here, hey, everybody, there is like a very powerful role for people because I think we're in the age of waking up. The velocity and volume of information that social media has brought about makes it possible for anybody with the interest, the fortitude and the intellect to parse through all this stuff can can have a more meaningful voice than previously. So, okay, I just say that for my own sanity. Okay, so they're getting the compromat. It brings out the worst in you. It brings out the worst in you so that they can weaponize that against you by showing it to the masses as they have done with the Epstein files so that the masses

• 50:10Tom Bilyeu?

  will turn on those people selectively. Now they obviously want to control who gets dipped into the bat of acid that is the populace. But that feels like the full chain of events. Any disagreement there?

• 50:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 50:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so now to put a bow on Israel before we move on to Iran, why did Israel take the offer to ethnically cleanse that Egypt rejected? Why did Egypt reject it? Was it moral grounds? And why did Israel take it?

• 50:45Speaker 01

  All right. Well, that's what Israel was created for from day one. It was the Greater Israel project was to gain more and more land.

• 50:54Tom Bilyeu?

  So that's why.

• 50:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Um Rothschild wanted that. He just wanted more land for, did he want more land for Jewish people? Or did he have some other thing going?

• 51:07Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, there's conflating interests here, but primarily I default up to what is the financial incentive here. Um. So you may have some ideological sideshow as well. Um. Or that you may have an ideology that's driving, okay. And that, but what, uh, to me, the creation of Israel was the radicalization of the Jewish faith. Based upon the fact that Europeans didn't want Jews in their country at the time. Um. They wanted to put them somewhere. Um. And the business model was population growth. And so they did.

• 51:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Hold on, you said that the British government did Israel for Rothschild because he, they needed him to keep funding wars. He was like, fine, however, you're going to do this thing for me. But now you're saying that it was actually something else. It was the desire to get rid of the Jews from Europe, from England, from the empire.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  Uh, well, I mean, if you, if you go back to those times, those, those were like, I, I hate to use the word antisemitic because it's been weaponized to the point of ridiculousness now.

• 52:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Sure.

• 52:17Speaker 01

  Um. Where, um, anyone talking against Israel is accused to be an antisemitic. Um. But that was an antisemitic era. You know, that was a, the, you know, the Jews were, you know, if you think about it, this goes back into the finance conversation. Uh, Christianity forbade usury. Um. So does Islam.

• 52:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Define usury.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  Uh, usury is the process of using interest in order to subordinate as well. Um, you know, to this debt-based Ponzi scheme is usury.

• 52:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, but debt is awesome. Like, there's, it can be weaponized, but it's also part of what allows us to build and grow and do incredible things. So is there a point at which-

• 53:00Speaker 01

  That's an ideology. Previously, it was strictly forbidden in Christian, any country that had Christian values.

• 53:10Tom Bilyeu?

  But yeah, when I hear the word usury, some people make a distinction between it's just interest. Other people say it's excessive interest.

• 53:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Do you draw the line between interest and excessive interest, or any interest of any kind is a moral hazard? I don't want to put words in-

• 53:25Speaker 01

  No, I mean, look, the entire financial system is built upon interest. It's impossible to, I happen to have exited it. But that was only because Bitcoin came along and I was able to exit it.

• 53:37Speaker 01

  There are, there are different degrees of usury. I think it's a, I think it's a, the, the version of usury that we have that is our fiat currency is 100% incredibly harmful. It is because it is a Ponzi scheme and it leads to all these wars and everything that we're talking about to prop it up, to create that perpetual growth cycle.

• 53:57Tom Bilyeu?

  So to understand you, I must understand that your worldview is interest is bad.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  In an ideological world, I wouldn't have interest. Yeah, I would have profit share. I would have equity. And if there is to have interest, it would have to be existing money that already exists. You can't combine the process of creating money and charging interest on the money created because that's a Ponzi scheme. And so if you, or if you have a mechanism for sustainably creating money, and then people would like to charge interest. Personally, I prefer profit share mechanisms. I prefer equity.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  And I prefer things that align incentives, rather than you, you know, you, you end up having to pay me no matter what. And, you know, that's just a, but I get, there's practicality in this, right?

• 54:57Speaker 01

  It's a, it's a, it's an interesting debate. Um, but yeah, the another, another version of usury is predatory loans, uh, as opposed to defining something that may be more equitable.

• 55:12Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so not to bog us down there, that I think gets us close enough. Uh, so, um, we need to finalize, Egypt does not take the option.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  We're talking about Christian power wanting to do banking, but it was prohibited. And so therefore, uh, you know, Jews wanted to do it because they had carve outs in their religion, where they couldn't lend to each other, but they could lend to anyone.

• 55:36Tom Bilyeu?

  This is in the early nineteen hundreds?

• 55:38Speaker 01

  Uh, this goes further back, like this is like.

• 55:40Tom Bilyeu?

  But I'm saying, when is that debate? Cause I'm trying to figure out why Israel takes the ethnic cleansing route and Egypt does not.

• 55:46Speaker 01

  What I was just giving is an example of how real power um, ends up using a group in order to look like they're the ones that are doing just that, which they are, there's, it's a partnership of crime. Um, but who's making most of the money? It's, it's kind of like, people blame Israel right now, which I do. I, I think Israel is fundamentally evil. But where's the money going back to? It's all in the US stock market. It's all US financial industrial complex, US technical industrial complex, US military industrial complex with a plausible deniability story.

• 56:27Speaker 01

  Um, so that when America wants to divorce from that, which is what Britain handed over this project to America. Um, they've got a, it was them, not us, which is the story that we're going through right now. And yet, everyone's saying, cause what is the real story? The real story is that America is constructed off a debt based Ponzi scheme that is governed by transnational capital and the financial industrial complex. And the construct is to transfer wealth upwards to the point where now ninety-two percent of the stock market is controlled by ten percent of the FIC. And everyone's pension is managed by the FIC.

• 57:09Tom Bilyeu?

  The FIC is financial industrial complex.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  Financial industrial complex. Um, and everyone's in debt to the FIC. And all businesses are subordinate to the FIC in generality. Um. And the FIC is in charge. And by the way, sixty nine trillion dollars of assets are foreign owned. So who is the FIC? It's not, it's not American aligned anymore. So I think with the reason we were doing this is because you were saying the M I C, the military industrial complex is more aligned or with nationalism. Because it was what built America, the the manufacturing base, you know, the post World War Two Britain order, the Cold War, all the, all that stuff.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  Um. It was built upon a manufacturing base in America that built out this uh vastly superior technology for killing people. Um. That was then privatized um and built the stock market um and the growth engine that fed the financial industrial complex to the point where now there's massive concentration of wealth. And this K shaped economy where there's only those in debt and those that have the assets. And those that have the assets is concentrating upwards and those in debt are getting significantly deeper into that position.

• 58:29Speaker 01

  Which creates civil unrest. Um. But the, the, I think we were doing the, the creation of Israel is a military story. Which is a business model that the Brits, the Dutch handed over to America. Um. Of create destabilize regions. Get access to resources. Um. And uh make sure that the oil can be used and the resources can be used for us. And our technology and our consumption.

• 58:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, so let me paint a picture that tries to reconcile a couple of things. So uh you said that um Israel is fundamentally evil. So we've got England helping to create the state of Israel.

• 59:14Tom Bilyeu?

  For essentially Rothschild and they do that because they want him to keep funding the military industrial complex because that's their game. And he does that because this is an antisemitic Rothschild does that because this is an antisemitic age. He's trying to find a home for his people essentially. And as that becomes an ongoing concern and actually starts gaining power and becomes its own nation, they have to plug into the game somewhere. So they've got the military industrial complex, financial industrial complex, or the technological industrial complex, or the three that we've talked about, plus the sort of governmental thing that, anyway, I'm not going to bog down on that.

• 59:58Tom Bilyeu?

  So they choose military industrial complex, correct?

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  That's who they're aligned with, yeah.

• 1:00:03Tom Bilyeu?

  All accurate so far. Okay. And so now we come to the question that maybe when I get the answer, I'll be like, that was a waste of time to pursue, but I really want to know why they, I think what you're saying is because they decide to go with the military industrial complex, that leaves the-

• 1:00:21Speaker 01

  They were created for the military industrial complex.

• 1:00:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Rothschild's like, hey, I've got a new business model. That is the creation of Israel to have a node in the military industrial complex.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  In the Middle East, yeah.

• 1:00:33Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it.

• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  And so their job is to destabilize the Middle East, ensure that there's never, that there's always war and making sure that empire and FIC can negotiate with countries to get their oil.

• 1:00:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay. And so that becomes the reason why they take the Faustian bargain of, yeah, we'll do the ethnic cleansing because we got, we gotta kill somebody because that's how this military industrial complex works.

• 1:01:00Speaker 01

  There always has to be war. War never ends. There has to be constant revenue. You're not going to get a situation where the revenue goes down.

• 1:01:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay. So why did Egypt reject it?

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  Because the world order changed in the meantime. And so if you think about it, this model, this model of America post-World War II, Bretton Woods, was predicated, that whole model, the transition from British empire to American empire. Um. Was when you had all these organizations in the to transfer everything to America. International Monetary Fund, World Bank, United Nations. Um. All of these constructs of obfuscating crimes against humanity, war, resource extraction, build back better. All of that that different model that built the stock market and the military base.

• 1:01:49Tom Bilyeu?

  So did Egypt just move too slowly? So they had their opportunity, but they didn't take it?

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  If you look at the, again, deep history, but if you look at the. What was the defining moment for the end of the British Empire? Or if you look at it, it was a slow thing. It was over decades, World War One, World War Two, Great Depression. But the ending moment and that led to the decolonization moment was the Suez Canal. Um. It was when the British Empire could no longer use their naval fleet in order to stop the Egyptians from privatizing. The Suez Canal and nationalizing it for their people. Uh. Very similar with straight up on moose today. Uh. You have, you need a theatrical moment. To define. The end of empire and the transition to the new world order. And that was, the Suez Canal was that moment.

• 1:02:39Speaker 01

  Um. That led to all the decolonization, Declaration of Independence from all the different African nations and various other um colonies. Um. And so, um. Egypt over that time was the resistance against Israel originally. So what we call Iran today was originally Egypt. Um. But Egypt got destroyed by, through this process, through International Monetary Fund debt. Um. Through regime change, through color revolutions, through. Decapitation campaigns to take out leaders, replace them with American puppets.

• 1:03:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Because they weren't playing ball?

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  You, uh, in the post-World War Two Bretton Woods order. Uh. Your job was to take on IMF debt, take on dollar debt. Um. And if you don't give your resources for the American empire, then there is a series of covert operations that either lead to you being overthrown, assassinated, uh, regime changed, uh, uprising, color revolution. Um, and the CIA and IMF jackals would turn up at your door and tell you what would happen to you if you don't comply. And if you don't comply, at the, at the worst case, you get assassinated so they can install a dictator that then uses the resources for the empire and not for the people.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  Um, and Egypt was the biggest resistance against that, um, in this, in this moment. Um, and, um.

• 1:04:09Tom Bilyeu?

  And so they've just been permanently sidelined, essentially, like.

• 1:04:12Speaker 01

  Oh, they've been, yeah, so they were, there were, then there was the slow, multi-decade decline of their economy, debt subordination, IMF debt, uh, currency wars, devaluation of their um, currency subordination, um, until eventually it had a military takeover and a military coup. Um, you know, and then we had Arab Spring, various other things to, to, to, you know, you, you could go down lots of rabbit holes just in one of these countries. Um, but, um, what, what happened? Um, I think the multi-decade strategy of realizing the, the FIC is transitioning the world to multipolarity, um, started

• 1:04:57Speaker 01

  uh, leading up to the two thousand and eight financial crisis.

• 1:05:01Tom Bilyeu?

  So they were already doing it.

• 1:05:02Speaker 01

  That's how long this operation to transition to multipolarity is.

• 1:05:06Tom Bilyeu?

  What made them decide to start the transition?

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  Um, a number of factors. Imagine, imagine if you're a fund manager. Uh, let's do BlackRock. We haven't gone through BlackRock and why they're important yet. Um, but let's say they're the, the American version of the British East India Company.

• 1:05:21Tom Bilyeu?

  When did they start?

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  Uh, eighties.

• 1:05:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, and they created the mortgage-backed security.

• 1:05:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  Um, they, uh, were the net beneficiary of the global financial crisis.

• 1:05:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, good.

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  Um. They were, they got the contract to manage uh for the Fed, the bailout money. They also got the contract to manage the big print during COVID for Treasury.

• 1:05:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Meaning who was going to get it?

• 1:05:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, how to allocate the money, how to uh resources, uh the mergers, the acquisitions, the allocation of capital.

• 1:05:56Tom Bilyeu?

  This is something I don't think enough people understand. So um when we were going through all of this, they, they were actually, I didn't know it was BlackRock, but apparently it was BlackRock. Uh, they were deciding to, okay, this money that we printed, the way we're going to get it into the system is we're actually going to buy shares. We're going to buy debt and somebody has to decide which debt to buy, what companies to prop up. And that was them, you're saying?

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, BlackRock was uh the, the contractor that was consulted in both the global financial crisis and during the COVID Treasury.

• 1:06:27Tom Bilyeu?

  So they literally decide who lived and who died?

• 1:06:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, so um again, so what did they end up doing? So they ended up buying uh the ETF department of Barclays. So the Barclays ETF to exchange traded fund are the new mechanism for allocating capital. You know, and BlackRock is the largest manager of those, those funds.

• 1:06:50Tom Bilyeu?

  So they actually spun it out of Barclays and they took it?

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  Spun it out of Barclays, received some capital, bought it, and now they're the biggest ETF provider in the world.

• 1:06:59Tom Bilyeu?

  Damn.

• 1:07:00Speaker 01

  Um, you know, JP Morgan, um, you know, got access to capital. We're told the Bear Stearns and Lehman need to go. Um, and uh these decisions, you know, Goldman Sachs said, oh, by the way, we're not an investment bank. We're a retail bank, so please bail us out and give us some of that capital. Um, and you know, those incredibly corrupt decisions were all based upon the mortgage backed security market, which was an innovation of BlackRock, um and Larry Fink was the inventor of it. Uh, Blythe Masters was the inventor of the credit default swap. And they knew through these liar lo- liar loans that there was,

• 1:07:42Speaker 01

  the central bank would bail out, that they were too big to fail, um that it could be a massive wealth concentration. And so they allowed the real estate bubble to blow up, knowing that those mortgage backed securities would be bought by the Federal Reserve.

• 1:07:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, why didn't Bear Stearns get protected in all this?

• 1:08:00Speaker 01

  I don't have an exact explanation, but it's interesting. Bear Stearns and Lehman were the two most intelligence connected nodes in this network. That's where the Jeffrey Epstein network like originally came from. I don't have a

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  exact thesis for why they were not chosen.

• 1:08:24Tom Bilyeu?

  But presumably they pissed somebody off.

• 1:08:27Speaker 01

  I think it's more about preservation of power. So they act as the FIC acts as a portfolio, you know, BlackRock's a shareholder in all of them. And so, you know, this, this construct that was created in the eighties with, with BlackRock was a rise to utility by the financial industrial complex. And Larry Fink and the others and the board played the game better than, than anyone. And ended up rising to the top of this construct today.

• 1:08:59Tom Bilyeu?

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