Can Two Main Characters Be Together? with Taylor Strecker and Taylor Donohue

We are so thrilled to have our friends Taylor Strecker and Taylor Donohue join us (mere weeks before having a baby) to discuss all the things – their decision to have kids even though one partner was unsure, choosing a sperm donor, how they picture their lives changing, and more. We also discuss opposites attracting and whether two main characters can be together, when your partner posts non-approved pics of you, feeling like your friends' careers are outpacing yours, if magicians are hot or not, and the lore between Taylor Strecker and Kate Bosworth. Before the Taylors join us, Ashley has updates on the egg carton and wedding gift bags, and Rayna shares why Etsy keeps canceling her orders. Enjoy! Find Taylor Strecker (and her links) on Instagram at @taylorstrecker, Taylor Donohue @taylordonohue, and listen to the Taste of Taylor podcast. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Aura Frames: Get $35 off the bestselling Carver Mat frame at https://auraframes.com with code GGE. Square Space: Get a free trial at https://squarespace.com/GGE and use code GGE for 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Skims: Get the perfect gifts for everyone on your list in the Skims holiday shop at http://skims.com. Helix: Get 20% off sitewide at http://helixsleep.com/gge. Saks Fifth Avenue: Get personalized and easy shopping this holiday season at Saks.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Rayna Greenberg?

  You said something to me that fucked me up so bad. It was definitely after you were pregnant, or maybe right before.

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  This podcast is a Dear Media production.

• 0:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Rena! We're getting too heated talking about something.

• 0:31Rayna Greenberg?

  A terrible man.

• 0:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 0:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat.

• 0:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome back.

• 0:36Rayna Greenberg?

  That's how I opened your wedding ceremony. I forgot.

• 0:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are you going to wish me happy one month anniversary?

• 0:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's December 1st.

• 0:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Done talking about you.

• 0:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, I know. No, I'm just kidding.

• 0:48Rayna Greenberg?

  No, happy anniversary.

• 0:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Rena, I'm kidding. But I'm glad it's December.

• 0:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Why?

• 0:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, hear me out. Do you think November is the worst month?

• 0:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, historically, I will say, you know, October is always like my special month because I meet everybody. November is every year I get really depressed. You know, like my depression sets in. It's not seasonal depression. Like, people just start doing stuff to me. November is a hard month for me.

• 1:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  People are saying it's a bad month because it is the time change and the seasonal depression. It gets dark at 4 o'clock, but nothing, just Thanksgiving, that's all we got.

• 1:19Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like at the end of the month.

• 1:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not Christmas. I don't hate it, but I get it.

• 1:23Rayna Greenberg?

  We barely have Thanksgiving this month. It's November 28th. Well, it was November 28th. Like, there is just nothing to be doing.

• 1:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, what do you think the worst month is? March?

• 1:33Rayna Greenberg?

  March and April are tough for me because April, you're like, it's not supposed to be this cold anymore. You know, you're like, I've done this for three months.

• 1:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  In New York. Yes.

• 1:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  We've lived in Noli for three years. Rena's like, you know, when it's April in New York.

• 1:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Where I'm gonna live.

• 1:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think really what is good about March, I mean, my mom's birthday, shout out, but I think there's no holiday, really.

• 1:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Or if you think April's good.

• 1:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  March and April are the two worst months.

• 1:59Rayna Greenberg?

  By far.

• 2:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 2:00Rayna Greenberg?

  They're just lifeless and it's just dark out. Wait, when do the clocks get turned back again? Not until May?

• 2:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't, I forget.

• 2:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't fucking know.

• 2:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. But anyway, let us know your guys' worst month in the comments. It's a battle for March and April. I mean, January, eh.

• 2:14Rayna Greenberg?

  You and I have had really good Marches and Aprils. We've usually been on tour or like started a tour and those have been really great, but March and April.

• 2:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, that's settled.

• 2:24Rayna Greenberg?

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• 2:44Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 2:57Rayna Greenberg?

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• 3:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Suckin' Blow Gel, the Play Pillow, the Glow Below Oil, which is probably my new favorite product that we put out in a while. I'm obsessed with it. Makes sex just so much hotter, slicker, sexier.

• 3:29Rayna Greenberg?

  You saw the couch the other night?

• 3:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, just laugh.

• 3:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Laugh at the couch.

• 3:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Laugh at your couch in it. Yeah.

• 3:35Rayna Greenberg?

  So you can get that at vibesonly.com. Stuff your stockings, stuff yourself. Happy holidays and hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving. Hope you had safe travels. What day is the biggest travel day of the year?

• 3:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Monday? No, Sunday. Oh my gosh. So we're recording this before Thanksgiving, obviously, but I was telling you that flights for Sunday post Thanksgiving, which is usually the bit, one of the biggest travel days of the year, were the most expensive I've ever seen booking flights, maybe ever. They were $900 one way in coach.

• 4:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  It felt crazy and it felt like predatory because comfort or whatever the next tier up is, depending on the airline. And then first, even lay flats, like there wasn't that much of a disparity. I mean, they were maybe 1500, 2000, 3000, but like the $1,000 one-way coach seats. I'm like, what is going on? Also, that was before everything got back to normal.

• 4:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, okay.

• 4:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  But that day, I mean, which was yesterday now, the plan was as of now, I flew on that day. And we flew out of Boston to come back to LA at 6:00 AM in comfort.

• 4:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, also, they just know people have to fly this day.

• 4:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly, exactly. There's, you have no other options. I used to always try to do Saturday, though, because that Sunday after Thanksgiving is so brutal. So, hope you guys didn't have any serious travel nightmares yesterday. I may have, who's to say?

• 4:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Getting back to LA from Pittsburgh is a lot. It's a lot. That's what I'm doing today.

• 5:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  And we are 12 days out from our holiday show in New York. It will be Saturday, December 13th, at BAM, which is the Brooklyn Academy of Music, our first really big, our first holiday show in Brooklyn. We are so excited. Going to have all the extravagant, fun performances and gifts and all the things you've come to expect at a Girls Got to Eat show. And of course, more. They're always different than what you've seen and they're always tailored to whatever city we're in. And we can't wait. It's going to be so fun. One show all year, and this is it.

• 5:34Rayna Greenberg?

  This is it. So, we'll see you guys there. You can get tickets at girlsgottaeat.com. We can't wait to see you.

• 5:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Okay, so I have something funny to share. I have an egg carton update. So, if you're new around here, my husband and I passed back this two-egg carton and it was in our vows and whatever. There's a whole lore behind it. It's been going on since what feels like forever. A long time, six months now plus. And I've had it at the altar with our rings at the wedding. And I'm like, what am I gonna do next? And so

• 6:04Rayna Greenberg?

  What's she gonna do next?

• 6:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  We had these two pairs of Adidas shoes that we had to bring back. Like, he was gonna change into a pair at the wedding and then he didn't. So he never wore them. He was gonna return them. And then he had picked me up another pair of the gold sneakers I wore because I thought I needed a smaller size, but I didn't, whatever. Regardless, that's not important. Two pairs of shoes, Adidas shoes, going back to the store where he bought them in Santa Monica, the Promenade store. So we were supposed to take them last weekend and we didn't get around to it. So they were in my car, just like two shoeboxes in the back. And we just left them in the car. We're like, we'll do them next weekend when we're running errands. So this was yesterday. So we're running errands. I had put the egg carton in one of the shoeboxes. And because you know that the salesperson will always lift up the

• 6:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Every time you've returned shoes, they open the shoebox to they usually take them out to make sure they're both the right shoes. They're the same size.

• 6:59Rayna Greenberg?

  And they're the same butt.

• 7:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're not trying to scam them in some way. Yeah, the salesperson is gonna open the box and they're gonna see the egg carton. So then last week, though, while they're in my car, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, what if he gets them out of the car and returns them on his own? And I'm not with him. So I was so scared about it. And I'm like, I'm just not gonna bring it up. And I'm sure we'll do it together over the weekend. So yesterday, we went to Adidas and I had butterflies.

• 7:23Rayna Greenberg?

  And also, like, what if he opens it before you get to the Adidas store?

• 7:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, so I was like, is Shashank gonna open these? Like, the way that I envisioned it was the sales guy would open it.

• 7:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 7:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  And he would see it. But also, I'm up at the counter, like hovering. Because also, what if the salesperson opened it and Shashank didn't look? Or he was on his phone or something? So they do mine first, whatever. He takes it and it was like, I was on the edge of my seat. He takes the shoebox and the guy opens it and picks it up like it was trash and tossed it at us. Like, it was trash. He thought it was trash.

• 7:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, he just gave it back to you?

• 7:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, the way

• 8:00Rayna Greenberg?

  He didn't even say to you, like, do you want me to throw this out?

• 8:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was moving quick. He was like someone that was really trying to be efficient and get his job done. Popped it open, sees a piece of trash, throws it at Shashank. Raina, I covered my mouth and ran away. I was like, like, I almost bust out. The way he threw it, like, get this trash out of here.

• 8:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Shashank like literally was like so shocked and he wanted to laugh and I just abandoned him at the

• 8:28Rayna Greenberg?

  You have really stepped your game up. This is funny.

• 8:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it went, we went retail.

• 8:33Rayna Greenberg?

  This is insane. You brought a third party into this.

• 8:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  But when I tell you, I really was felt nervous. Like, am I going to be able to execute this?

• 8:43Rayna Greenberg?

  And the way A lot of things could have gone wrong. That guy could have just kind of lifted up the flap and kind of put it back down. You guys want to see it? He could have been on his phone. I mean, a lot of things could have gone wrong.

• 8:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  And how he reacted, he could have been like, what is this? The way he just was like, ugh, these people have trash in their box.

• 9:00Rayna Greenberg?

  He threw it, like, get it out of here. Shashank caught it.

• 9:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I ran away. I was in the back of the store.

• 9:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know how you're gonna top this. I don't know what you're gonna do. I sit up at night sometimes when you just think about it. How are we gonna top this?

• 9:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  This was pretty good.

• 9:18Rayna Greenberg?

  That was really good.

• 9:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know what he's probably gonna try to do? I'm just gonna get ahead of it because I love to be right and I like to have a receipt for being right. He's probably gonna try to wrap it under the Christmas tree. Basic.

• 9:27Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not even creative. That would be so uncreative.

• 9:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 9:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, but like he, let me think of other ways we could be, like, do you think you should turn it into an ornament and it'll just be on the tree?

• 9:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  That'd be good.

• 9:37Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys have a tree at home?

• 9:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're about to put the tree up.

• 9:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Real or fake?

• 9:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've got a fake one.

• 9:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, we're barely here for the next two months.

• 9:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  When we were long distance, we got a tree the last two Christmases in, in Boston and it would be in his apartment. And yeah, we're not gonna be here a lot. So I just have this like fake one.

• 9:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I wanted to get my first Christmas tree ever. I was so excited, but I'm like, all, the whole month of November and December, I'm not here. So what would be the point? But I'm, I think I'm team fake tree. What did you have growing up?

• 10:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Always

• 10:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I don't even know who I'm asking. Your dad, obviously.

• 10:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  My dad this year with his new hip.

• 10:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't wait.

• 10:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's about to go out. They cut him down right from the yard.

• 10:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I don't even know what I'm talking about. I come there every year. It's my ninth Christmas.

• 10:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like we walk around the farm and we're like, how about that one? And he just goes out and cuts it down.

• 10:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Your dad's so manly.

• 10:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like brings it in. So yeah, always, always real.

• 10:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Always real. Okay.

• 10:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  And as it is a month from the wedding, I am ready to break my silence on gift bag gate.

• 10:36Rayna Greenberg?

  This has been an ongoing developing situation.

• 10:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've talked about it a little bit. I don't want to talk about it too much because I get upset and people are like, what happened with the gift bags? I have a few DMs about it. So I'm ready to tell you guys. I did bring yours.

• 10:48Rayna Greenberg?

  You know that you gave it, who'd you give it to the other day? And I just opened up her bag.

• 10:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I brought one to Brittany.

• 10:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Brittany. And I just opened up her bag and started going through it at dinner.

• 10:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so we're gonna do an unboxing on air, but I just want to say, so there was just some miscommunication at the wedding and the gift bags really did not get out. Like, I did a total of 80, which I did the math on couples, one per couple, and then people who weren't couples. And then people who just came on Saturday, you're not going to get a gift bag, especially if you live in LA. Like, they're mostly people who've traveled and are checking into the hotel. And so I did 80, only about 30 of them went out. And I don't want to throw anybody under the bus. I'm going to take a lot of blame for myself. I've been beating myself up nonstop. Like, I put so much time into these, like, picking that perfect little jute bag. Obviously, Jaclyn weighed in on that. The ribbon, I customized that ribbon. It matched the wedding colors. And then we're going to go through what's in them.

• 11:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I spent so much time and money on them. And for them not to get out to people, like, I wanted people to have this experience when they got to our wedding, that, like, Ashley and Shashank, like, did this for us.

• 11:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I did 20, 25 gift bags for my birthday. I worked so hard on them. If somebody, I even drove to the other house in traffic just to leave them on people's beds. I would have been devastated.

• 12:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  80, 80. I'm going to put some videos up on the screen. Like, it took us a whole day to stuff them all, but even aside, so we'll go through it together. But every step of the way, like, that bag was a separate purchase on Etsy from the ribbon and the customized tag. From everything that's in it, there's some custom stuff in it. It took me so much time. It was my whole personality. Like, Shashank was like, say gift bags one more time. Like, it became my whole personality. We had to drive them all over to the W a separate day because it wouldn't fit, obviously, on the day of. Like, so much time and energy in for them not to get out to people. It really took me down.

• 12:33Rayna Greenberg?

  No, it would take, 25 cost me a fortune.

• 12:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 12:37Rayna Greenberg?

  So I can't even imagine.

• 12:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so there was just some miscommunication. Again, like, I, I want to take some blame and I've had some apologies since. It's like, everybody's upset that they didn't get out that the way that they should have. And by the time I kind of remembered, it was like too late, whatever. But I wanted to do to open yours. So I wanted to do not like a flat tote. I wanted to have something that sat up, but it wasn't too big because I didn't want to put that much stuff in it. So this is this little jute bag and then the little ribbon on it.

• 13:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I love the little jute tote. And it says, welcome. Thank you for making the trip to be here with us. We are so excited you're here and we can't wait to celebrate with you. Love, Ashley and Shashank. A little ribbon. Who titled the ribbons? You or him?

• 13:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  He did the ribbons.

• 13:14Rayna Greenberg?

  That's really laborious.

• 13:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  He put a lot of work into this. Okay. So first I want you to open the envelope.

• 13:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 13:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  So what we did was, he and I never did real invitations. We did everything electronically. So this is our commemorative invitation. So what we did that I felt was different was that we basically gave people an invitation when they arrived. A commemorative invitation. No one's doing this.

• 13:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. But what's important to me is that the itinerary is in here.

• 13:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  The itinerary is on the back.

• 13:42Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what? Everybody texted me all day, every fucking day, what are you wearing? You know what? No one texted me, what time do we have to be there? Not one person asked me.

• 13:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, good.

• 13:49Rayna Greenberg?

  At that wedding website.

• 13:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 13:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 13:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  So this was just like a welcome and that, doesn't that look that matches the hotel lobby? Like we put so much time into these fucking invitations.

• 13:58Rayna Greenberg?

  It's beautiful.

• 13:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll put them up on the screen.

• 14:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. I don't know what I'm going to do with this now. I'm just going to save it.

• 14:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's, yeah, it's commemorative.

• 14:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Commemorative invitation.

• 14:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 14:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 14:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Next, let's pull out those snacks. Yeah. So just a few snacks. We did a bunch of mini snacks.

• 14:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I love Cheetos. What's your favorite snack? Doritos.

• 14:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Doritos, nacho cheese Doritos. Cheetos close second.

• 14:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Cheetos.

• 14:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  So there was a mix, Doritos, Cheetos, and then sweet, sweet. We even do sweet and savory. So you have your Oreo minis.

• 14:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Also cookies, I think Oreos are the best in terms of small cookies to put in a bag.

• 14:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  The premium ones.

• 14:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Because you know, chocolate chip cookies, they do be getting stale and the stale ones.

• 14:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, next, let's bring out the Liquid IV.

• 14:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 14:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  So everyone got three sticks of Liquid IV.

• 14:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't believe I didn't have this.

• 14:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 14:39Rayna Greenberg?

  What was I supposed to do about my hangers besides walk it off?

• 14:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. So we did lemon lime, guava and grapefruit. Oh, you got two guavas. I'm sorry about that.

• 14:46Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I'm not.

• 14:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  I wanted everyone to get one of each.

• 14:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm not a big pomplamoose fan in general.

• 14:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  The grapefruit is elite, but okay. So there's your Liquid IV. So thank you to them. They provided the, they provided the product. There are only two things left in there, right? Okay, let's do the, the money piece.

• 14:57Rayna Greenberg?

  The money shot. Okay.

• 14:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so.

• 14:59Rayna Greenberg?

  This is the thing I was most sad about. So it's a custom candle. It says for better or for worse. It's a picture of Azul with his old teeth.

• 15:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  We'll put it up on the screen. So I knew what I wanted to do for the label, the picture of Azul and the tagline. And then Anna designed that and the company is called Soul Scent. So do you remember they made candles for us? Mine was like big and pink and had the girl's got a logo. So.

• 15:19Rayna Greenberg?

  With the wicker flame?

• 15:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, with, they have the wooden wick. So Soul Scent, I was like, they know the show. They've made us candles before. And I reached out to them. We're like, would you guys be able to do this? Can you make 80 of these? And so it was so fun to collab with them. They sent me their catalog and then we decided it has the little cork top. It smells amazing.

• 15:35Rayna Greenberg?

  So sometimes you get like gift bags and there's like a full size candle in it. And I'm like, I gotta put this in my suitcase.

• 15:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  That'll get you stopped. It's security.

• 15:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I gotta lug a 20 pound candle back with me. This is an appropriate travel size.

• 15:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 15:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Like I just, I saw how small it was and I was like this, cause you and I like, we go to venues a lot and people give us gifts. And it's always a full size candle, which I appreciate. It's expensive, but a glass jar candle, lugging that back, perfect size.

• 15:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. So the last thing, I threw it in there for you, but this was something that was out at the reception. But we're gonna send them out with the gift bags, which I'll get to. But this was out at the reception. And so these were just custom matches.

• 16:07Rayna Greenberg?

  These are beautiful.

• 16:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Jaclyn was like, let's do some custom stuff.

• 16:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Let's get lit. I think it's beautiful. I like the gold and the green.

• 16:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  So the custom matches.

• 16:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Listen, the W was great and I love them and it could not have been a more amazing wedding. But if someone be fucking with my gift bags, I would be so upset.

• 16:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was like, it, it was miscommunication across a few lines.

• 16:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 16:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you know, not everybody stayed at the hotel. So we knew that they were supposed to get out at a different time. And it just didn't happen. And it was like, I didn't communicate properly. And again, I would, I beat myself up about this for weeks. Because when I realized that most of them weren't out, I was like, it was like a gut punch. Like I, I couldn't believe it. So what I'm doing now is a full fucking PR mail out of these gift bags. Rayna, if, if you're watching this and you came to the wedding and you didn't get one, it will probably be on the way. I'm gonna do my best. What I'm doing now. Is I have made custom thank you cards for people that got gifts for us with a photo from the wedding. They have already arrived. I got them expedited. Custom photo thank you cards with a gift in the same month as the wedding. That is elite bride level unlocked.

• 17:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Basically, I'm just trying to keep the wedding going at this point. I just, I have a spreadsheet. I'm like working with a local shipper to execute.

• 17:14Rayna Greenberg?

  People are like, oh, I thought we were done with the wedding. You're like, no, we're doing it every week.

• 17:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Santa Monica Mailboxes Shipping Center, just make sure you get the right one. It's on Broadway. Raina and I went in there. We're like doing this together and this, we're recording this kind of farther out. It's still November as we're doing this. Everyone will get them so far, the first batch by the end of the month, but.

• 17:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know a bride that isn't like, I'm done. I'm done here. I've done enough.

• 17:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't look at these in my house. Like they upset me too much.

• 17:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I guess, yeah. What would you do with them?

• 17:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I spent money on these and I'm gonna spend more.

• 17:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. You're trying to spend more money on them now.

• 17:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I really want to support this shipper, this local business. Like they are so wonderful to me and they take all my packages back and they're so great. And I'm like, I want to give you the business. So I'm really trying to spin this to make it a positive and make myself feel better because this took me down for a while. I was upset.

• 18:01Rayna Greenberg?

  To spend money and then have to spend more money is rough when you're just like, I, I did the wedding. We made it for the wedding.

• 18:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it has really kind of taken over my life and Shashank is like, I'll do this whole thing if I never have to hear the word gift bag again. Like he's come close to where I was like, he's, I have to shut the fuck up about the gift bag.

• 18:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Hyper fixated.

• 18:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I'm super.

• 18:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, you know, I like to just say the same thing over and over and over again. I mean, how short would my voice notes be if I just didn't say the same thing four times? It's, I get it.

• 18:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  I wasn't able to shake it. So that's what I'm up to, everyone. The tour is over. The wedding is over. This is all I have to live for. And then what Raina is doing in 2026.

• 18:38Rayna Greenberg?

  You'll come with me.

• 18:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Should we bring a few of these to the holiday show?

• 18:43Rayna Greenberg?

  The front row gets your gift bags.

• 18:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hear me out.

• 18:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Shashank and I are so happy you could come here. It's a thank you from you and your husband.

• 18:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Commemorative invitation?

• 18:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I think you should. Thank you.

• 18:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think you should. It won't say from me. We'll cross his name out.

• 18:56Rayna Greenberg?

  We'll make him do that. He'll be like, I'll do it if you just stop talking about this.

• 19:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Well, I'm bringing some of these. Sorry to the guests that should get them. They're going to go to the girls go to eat community now. No, I'll get them out eventually.

• 19:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I have never gotten a gift bag this nice at a wedding. Who has?

• 19:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  That means the world.

• 19:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Or after a wedding.

• 19:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you?

• 19:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Definitely not after.

• 19:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome to LA gift bag.

• 19:20Rayna Greenberg?

  It's really, the juke bag is really nice. The snacks are on point three. Liquid IVs, you must be rich. That is crazy.

• 19:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Liquid IV sent that.

• 19:30Rayna Greenberg?

  The hydration multiplier.

• 19:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  All these people and be like, did you get a gift bag? And everyone's like, no, but it's okay. And I'm like, it's not okay. It's not okay.

• 19:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Shashank's like, please, please say you bought it.

• 19:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like every single.

• 19:41Rayna Greenberg?

  He said and texted other people.

• 19:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Every single person I've texted has said, it's okay. And I said, it's not okay.

• 19:48Rayna Greenberg?

  All right.

• 19:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not over.

• 19:50Rayna Greenberg?

  This is not over. My table versus your table is crazy right now. You have like a nice, clean table with your phone and your iPad and your water. I have dildos. I have the whole content of this bag on here. I have blue, I have a little candle. I look crazy.

• 20:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right.

• 20:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you did a great job with the gift bags.

• 20:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thank you.

• 20:09Rayna Greenberg?

  It was very thoughtful and.

• 20:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not really me. I'm not like a, you're more of a.

• 20:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I did the gift bags for your bachelorette.

• 20:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but you're more of a like hostess. Like I'm not, I was really proud of myself because it doesn't feel like so natural to me to do cutesy stuff. I'm just not like crafty or hosty typically.

• 20:29Rayna Greenberg?

  You are a much more thoughtful gift giver than I am. You know, I just, I'm just, I'm not a thoughtful gift giver.

• 20:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  You always say that and then you do good gifts.

• 20:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't, I don't do good gifts.

• 20:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're fishing for compliments.

• 20:40Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I just, I've always said this every, one year you got me a painting and I was like, I just have to spend $800 on a bag for her. I can't match the niceness of this.

• 20:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I made out in that one.

• 20:50Rayna Greenberg?

  That was.

• 20:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause you spent the money.

• 20:53Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, it was so profoundly thoughtful. You like commissioned a painting that said, girls gotta eat. It was so beautiful. And I was like, I'm going to get you a YSL bag.

• 21:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, totally equal.

• 21:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I like that kind of gifty crafty. So Etsy is just great. You get those like.

• 21:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've really, you, you've always been an Etsy person. I mean, I'll take Etsy, but I feel like I'm really on Etsy a lot now. And I'm obviously trying not to do Amazon as much as I can.

• 21:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad you brought this up.

• 21:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 21:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I've been meaning to tell you this. So the, the bear cup, the Starbucks bear cup. I was like, I will get one. I will get one and I will get it for cheaper. And I kept seeing on Etsy, there were, I sent you this, this photo, like there are, there are stores that are selling it for $40,000. The Starbucks Berryista Cup, it's a 20 ounce glass commemorative, like Starbucks cup. We talked about it the other day. Employees are like stealing these and selling them on the black market. People want them and they're selling for like $2,500, $5,000. And there was like a couple of Etsy stores that I kept finding that were like $40, $50, $60 for the cup. And I was like, you fucking idiots. Look how quick I can get this. I have ordered from three Etsy stores and all three orders have been canceled. Cause Etsy is in there just cancel, cancel, cancel.

• 22:03Rayna Greenberg?

  They're canceling the stores. Cause they're fake.

• 22:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're fake.

• 22:06Rayna Greenberg?

  They're fake.

• 22:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, good for Etsy. You always think you found a loophole. This is like the LaFufu. We're like, oh, I got you this LaBubu. They let me open all the boxes and its feet spin around and it's all scratched up, but I'm sure it's real.

• 22:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought I was like, you idiots, spending like $500 for a cup.

• 22:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Crazy. Etsy is like, your order's been canceled?

• 22:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Three separate stores on Etsy in the last week have canceled my order.

• 22:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my gosh.

• 22:30Rayna Greenberg?

  So I guess you do have to spend $500 to $2,500 on this cup. I want that cup. I love that cup.

• 22:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right. Well, we'll start a GoFundMe and we'll get you that cup and you guys follow my Instagram for my Etsy links. I'm gonna link that bag. Have you ever seen anything like that? That was like, you know how, when you, you were like, I need this thing that, I don't know if it exists. Like I was like, I want a stand up, small, compact gift bag that's not paper, not throwaway. Not a canvas tote.

• 23:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Canvas totes are so floppy.

• 23:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Something easy to pick up. And Jaclyn, here, here's the link. Icon.

• 23:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I like it for LA. It's like jute. It's not a giant bag. It's a small bag. Again, I don't like when people give me things that are too big to carry back home. I don't have the space.

• 23:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I barely had the space in my luggage to go back to Venice from Hollywood.

• 23:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  The one thing missing out of it is water bottles.

• 23:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I was gonna ask you.

• 23:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. It just, we, I'm gonna fail you.

• 23:24Rayna Greenberg?

  For 80 people, it's a lot of-

• 23:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  We would have had to do tiny, I don't know. It was crowded in there, but he was like, we're gonna get people Liquid IV without water. I'm like, they can figure out the water.

• 23:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I agree. We were staying at a hotel.

• 23:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, there's water, there's the sink. Figure it out.

• 23:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's not New York City water, it's gross water.

• 23:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but you'll live.

• 23:40Rayna Greenberg?

  You'll be fine.

• 23:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. All right. Well, let's talk about our partners, then we will get into it with Taylor and Taylor.

• 23:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. This podcast is sponsored by Squarespace. Ashlyn and I have used Squarespace as the platform for our website for many, many years, our personal website, the Girls Got to Eat website. It does everything you could ever want. It is the all-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and exceed online. So if you guys are just starting out, or you're managing a growing brand, Squarespace will make it easy to create a beautiful website, enjoy it with your audience, and engage with them, and sell literally anything from content to products to time.

• 24:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tickets.

• 24:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Tickets. I mean, you go to the Girls Got to Eat site, and it has literally everything. So you see every episode we've ever done, all of our partners, our tickets, our merch, everything. They'll help you set all that up. I think a lot of people are like, I don't know how to design a website, and that's what stops them. So Squarespace has great AI tools and so many templates, and they're gonna help you design whatever you want. It'll look as professional as you could ever imagine. It'll allow you to sell content. There's tons of SEO tools. There's Squarespace Payments, so you can manage your payments all in one space. Like I said, tons of visual design tools, and it's user-friendly.

• 24:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God, so easy.

• 24:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that like what people get nervous about is that they won't be able to use it. But my dad is 79, just built a website on Squarespace. He was like, the AI tools.

• 24:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 24:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I was like, beauty.

• 24:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's so, so easy. And it can be as basic or high level as you want. I mean, I set one up for my comedy, my tour and stuff, and it was just like so easy. And I just wanted it to be kind of one long scrolling thing, and have the tickets, and like great images. You would think like this took years to make.

• 25:13Rayna Greenberg?

  No, literally.

• 25:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I did it in like an afternoon.

• 25:14Rayna Greenberg?

  As a designer.

• 25:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 25:15Rayna Greenberg?

  So you can head to Squarespace.com/GGE for a free trial. And when you are ready to launch your business or your website, use GGE to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.

• 25:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and Helix, we are in-

• 25:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Snuggle up in bed season, never leave the bed season. And you just, you need sleep more than ever. I'm leaning into how much sleep I need and it gets dark at four o'clock and I'm in the bed.

• 25:40Rayna Greenberg?

  I never left the bed.

• 25:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, never left the bed. So we both have Helix mattresses. These are the mattresses we cannot recommend enough. We have them in our beds and our guest bedrooms. Our families have them. They make an incredible gift. I gifted Buck and Lindsay one, one year. I've gotten my brother and my sister-in-law, they have one of the plus-size mattresses. I have the Midnight Luxe, I think you do too. And my guest bedroom is the Moonlight Luxe. And so they have the standard Helix mattresses and the Luxe collection and also the Elite collection.

• 26:14Rayna Greenberg?

  And also Taylor and Taylor, who were on our episode today, stayed at my house after the episode. And they were like, the bed was unreal.

• 26:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's truly, I mean, anyone who you, if you haven't slept on a Helix and then you do, it's, you're gonna feel the difference and just realize they're such a game changer. So you will get on their site, take a quick sleep quiz. They will match you with your perfect mattress based on your personal preferences and your sleep needs. We obviously all sleep differently, on our back, on our side, or on our stomach, or we roll around. People sleep hot, they run hot, or you want a firm mattress, a soft mattress, somewhere in the middle. And so they're just incredible. You're gonna find the one that's perfect for you. It is the most awarded mattress brand, tested and reviewed by experts like Forbes and Wired. Free shipping, seamless delivery. Again, we've had multiple shipments from them. The delivery is seamless, just like they say, delivered right to your door. Free shipping in the US and there is a happy with Helix guarantee.

• 27:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  There is a risk-free customer-first experience designed to ensure you're completely satisfied with your new mattress. So we just have had these as long as you guys have been listening to us talk. I mean, I had it in New York, I have them now, like my families have them. I never want to sleep on a mattress that isn't a Helix if I can avoid it. So we have a discount for you. You can go to helixsleep.com/gge for 27% off site-wide. That's helixsleep.com/gge for 27% off site-wide. Make sure you enter our show name into the post-purchase survey so they know we sent you. Helixsleep.com/gge.

• 27:35Rayna Greenberg?

  And holidays are coming up. You guys want a gift idea? The Skims pajama sets, unbelievable, great gift for anybody, the soft lounge. So I just like stayed in the house for like days and days this weekend and I was wearing one of my Soft Lounge PJs and I spilled something on them and I was like, no worries, I'll just change it to another one because I have three pairs. I have black, red, and green.

• 27:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yes. I just got the green.

• 27:54Rayna Greenberg?

  And then I realized that the other two pairs were in the laundry. So all of my pairs were dirty and then I just had to like put on PJs from like another brand and I was like, ew, what is this on my body? Like, they're just so high quality. They're so soft. They look so good. I mean, I'm alone in the house, but I just want them to like look good. They feel so good. I sleep in them. I never slept in pajamas before, but they just look so fantastic. It's the best sleep set and they have tons of stuff from Skims Sleep. So lots of different designs. Listen, some people like old t-shirts to sleep in and that's fine, too. But if you want to just like, you know, be a little stylish with your PJs, I really recommend the Soft Lounge Sleep Set. Again, like I said, great gifts and they have tons of gifts for everybody on Skims. I just love their bras and their underwear, their boxer shorts. You can shop our favorite PJs at skims.com.

• 28:39Rayna Greenberg?

  After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you. Select podcasts in the survey and be sure to select the show in the drop down menu that follows. And if you're looking for the perfect gifts for everyone on your list, the Skims Holiday Shop is now open at skims.com. Okay, you guys, we are very excited to welcome back a guest and we finally got her wife to come back with her this time. They are the host and producer of Taste of Taylor. They were stars of Vanderpump Villa, season two.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Thank you for putting respect in our name.

• 29:06Rayna Greenberg?

  They came out here to film something. We might get it out of them. We might not. Please welcome back to the show Taylor Strecker and her wife for the first time ever, Taylor Donohue.

• 29:15Speaker 03

  Hey, girl, hey.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  Hey, girl, hey. Look at her. Look at her. She is just a dose and she's stealing my moniker.

• 29:21Speaker 03

  Hey, girl, the panic between you two. Are we gonna do it?

• 29:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, Raina recorded with Andrew Call last week. Like, he subbed in for me and she said, hi, guys, and he didn't respond. Like, for eight years, we've done, hi, guys, hi, guys, and Andrew just sat there.

• 29:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't realize that I'm like waiting for it back. It's like, is it Pavlov's dog? Like, you just, you wait for like the bell to ring and then you get like the satisfaction. I said, hi, guys, and I'm just used to like putting out my hand and getting a treat and like nothing happened.

• 29:50Speaker 03

  Hi, guys.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  I know. I get that with the hey, girl, hey. It's like, sometimes people refuse to say it back to me and I get it. It's a little chooks, but it is what it is, you know?

• 29:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's who we are.

• 30:00Speaker 02

  Right.

• 30:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Hi, guys. Hey, girls. Hey.

• 30:03Speaker 03

  Thanks for having us. Congrats to the newlywed.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  I know. I'm so sad we weren't there.

• 30:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  You guys were invited, but you didn't make it.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  We were. The FOMO was beyond. We literally were working, which I know sounds crazy, but trust and believe we were.

• 30:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I want to tell you that I did get not one, but two go birds in my vows.

• 30:23Speaker 03

  No, really? You said them or Shoshan said them?

• 30:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I said them.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  Really?

• 30:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And

• 30:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  the Thursday night, like after party, after the welcome drinks, I was like joking about it at the table and he was like, you're not gonna do that.

• 30:37Speaker 03

  You're not really gonna do it.

• 30:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  I guess I am. What do you mean? Of course I am.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  Why not?

• 30:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I only had one planned and at the end, I just, I kind of panicked and I just did it again. You ended the speech and it was great. Like the last one, I just did like a go birds. Like should I, should I dare I do it again?

• 30:52Speaker 03

  It's like a cheers. It's just like, go birds.

• 30:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  We got rave reviews about your speech or your, your officiating.

• 30:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:59Rayna Greenberg?

  We told you.

• 31:00Speaker 02

  Andrew Cohen.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  He was like, it was a roast slash officiating.

• 31:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  The whole night was a roast.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, your dad.

• 31:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, the thing happened.

• 31:07Speaker 02

  We heard it all.

• 31:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everyone stood up, like ran around the room. It was just like an insane thing.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  Oh, it looked like so much fun and it was all three nights. Everything looked so fun. I am just so happy for you.

• 31:21Rayna Greenberg?

  So you guys are out here. You're filming something maybe, and I don't know if you can tell us.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  We're out here working.

• 31:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Mm hmm.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  We are.

• 31:31Speaker 03

  For a few months.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, we film our podcast, you know, every time we go to Dear Media. So we're doing that.

• 31:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, we're staying busy.

• 31:39Speaker 02

  We're staying very busy.

• 31:41Rayna Greenberg?

  How cool you are.

• 31:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also, you're pregnant.

• 31:44Speaker 03

  As shit.

• 31:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  When are we gonna?

• 31:45Speaker 03

  Pregnant as shit. Yes. You know, I'm eight months pregnant.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  When's your due date?

• 31:50Speaker 03

  January 4th.

• 31:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, my God.

• 31:52Speaker 03

  And no offense to this baby, but I'm ready for her to get the fuck out of my body.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  I'm not. I'm like, stay in there forever.

• 31:59Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  Stay in for another 10 months. I don't care.

• 32:01Speaker 03

  We were at the Magic Castle last night. You guys been there?

• 32:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, so we were supposed to go for my birthday with Taylor. She was gonna bring me and then it was closed for like renovations. Like we like had tickets. I'm devastated.

• 32:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Dying to go.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  It was so much fun, but we were there for six hours.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  It was crazy.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  And I was. I thought I was gonna die. Yeah.

• 32:17Speaker 02

  Are you walking around there?

• 32:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  No.

• 32:19Speaker 03

  And waiting in line to get into little shows before the big show.

• 32:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:23Speaker 03

  Six hours was a little too long.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  That's a long time on your feet.

• 32:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, you have to be there for six hours?

• 32:27Speaker 02

  Well, there are benches like in line.

• 32:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, you could sit a little bit, but you're totally dressed up. People wear like black tie.

• 32:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, a black tie.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 03

  I mean, I love magic, so it was like amazing.

• 32:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you do?

• 32:37Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:38Speaker 02

  Oh, she like wants to become a magician now.

• 32:40Speaker 03

  I take a magic class online when I'm alone. No, yeah, I like, I love.

• 32:45Speaker 02

  I did not know this about her before. I agreed to marry her. And had I known, it might have gone differently.

• 32:49Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I think that's so cool. I want to learn. I don't want to learn, but I want to know how magic is done. Where do you take a magic class?

• 32:55Speaker 03

  Julianmagic.com. I pay $12.99 a month. I haven't done, I haven't done classes in like a year.

• 33:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Subscription?

• 33:01Speaker 03

  I haven't done it in so long, but I keep paying for it because I don't want to quit, you know? If I'm still paying, I'm still in it technically.

• 33:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you learned magic?

• 33:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'll do something later.

• 33:09Rayna Greenberg?

  What's your best magic?

• 33:10Speaker 03

  I'll do it later. I have some tricks.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  She has one on her phone.

• 33:13Speaker 03

  It's a good one.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  It's really good, actually.

• 33:15Rayna Greenberg?

  What is it?

• 33:15Speaker 02

  I feel like you could actually do it right now.

• 33:19Speaker 03

  I'll, I'll think about it.

• 33:20Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 33:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Is it like card game magic? Or like make a ring disappear magic? Like what kind of magic?

• 33:27Speaker 03

  I have like a calculator trick.

• 33:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 33:29Speaker 03

  And then I have, I need like a salt shaker. I have a salt shaker trick.

• 33:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Where do, do you make it disappear?

• 33:34Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. I make it go through a table.

• 33:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, well, let's do it at the bar. Yeah, we're going to a bar.

• 33:38Speaker 02

  Every time the birds score tonight.

• 33:40Speaker 03

  I'll do a magic trick.

• 33:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, would you date a magician?

• 33:47Speaker 02

  Okay, it's, it's.

• 33:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, magicians are, no, no.

• 33:49Speaker 02

  A man magician. Actually, I have to stop because the reason we got into the magic castle was because of a man magician. Shout out to Phil the Magic Man.

• 33:58Speaker 03

  He's the goat.

• 33:58Speaker 02

  He is the fucking best.

• 34:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I want to answer this question.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 34:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Magicians are like DJs to me. It's embarrassing until it's not embarrassing.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  I don't think DJs are.

• 34:08Rayna Greenberg?

  If you're just, I went out there with that DJ. He was 45, he had a roommate, he wasn't successful.

• 34:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 34:13Rayna Greenberg?

  If you are a successful DJ and you're good at it, hot. I, I think that's cool. Magicians, kind of same thing to me.

• 34:20Speaker 02

  It is.

• 34:21Speaker 03

  No, you know what I think is cool? Mentalism.

• 34:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Who is that?

• 34:24Speaker 03

  The mentalist that can read your mind and stuff.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  That's Phil the Magic Man.

• 34:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 34:28Speaker 02

  He's a mentalist.

• 34:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Isn't it, it's a little creepy, no?

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Yes, but also Phil will like explain to you. He's like, I'm not a magician. This is not magic. I'm just really good.

• 34:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm a mind reader.

• 34:38Speaker 03

  Like you think of something and he literally knows what you're thinking.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no. I know what it is. I think that what they do is they're very good at like. And planting, like they know where they want to end. So they're just really good at like placing it in your head subconsciously.

• 34:52Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't think it's like a psychic?

• 34:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're not making it sound any less crazy.

• 34:54Speaker 03

  I think it's like Jennifer Aniston's boyfriend. I think he's like.

• 34:57Rayna Greenberg?

  They have no therapist?

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, he, I think he plants.

• 35:00Rayna Greenberg?

  That's how he got her.

• 35:01Speaker 02

  That is how he got her.

• 35:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, she was on his vision board. He was like, oh.

• 35:04Rayna Greenberg?

  He wrote that book and he was like, I will get it to her somehow and I'm going to fuck Jennifer Aniston.

• 35:08Speaker 03

  With his potions.

• 35:09Speaker 02

  Kind of like Travis Kelsey a little.

• 35:11Speaker 03

  What?

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. You know, he manifested. Yeah, with friendship bracelets.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:17Speaker 02

  Live your dreams.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  You know what? Live your dreams. Become a magician. For real.

• 35:22Speaker 03

  I am.

• 35:23Speaker 02

  I'm not threatened by that at all.

• 35:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I disagree in that I don't think it's hot at the top level. Like,

• 35:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  like if, I know, I'm not, it's not for me.

• 35:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, okay, I guess top level of like DJ, I would still date a mid-range DJ. That's still cool to me.

• 35:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, that's my point.

• 35:39Rayna Greenberg?

  A magician would need to be like, have a Hulu deal. They would need to be like David Blaine, a Vegas residency.

• 35:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or just, well, what about the foodie magician? Like if you were, if you're an entrepreneur hustler, you're a businessman.

• 35:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so he makes a ton of money.

• 35:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 35:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Getting flown around the country.

• 35:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. I'm into, if you're a, you're a businessman, like you're just happy to do magic. That's how I'm going to tell you to my friends. Like he's a millionaire.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's a millionaire and he does it with magic.

• 36:07Rayna Greenberg?

  But magicians are a little weird usually. Like DJ's not weird usually.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  I will say we've met a lot of magicians. And actually, I think they're getting better and better and better from like a branding perspective, you know? They need better PR is what they need. Yeah, magic is back. You heard it here first. Wait, Criss Angel though? He's a freak.

• 36:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can see that.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  We saw him.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  She waited in line, in line to go on stage.

• 36:31Rayna Greenberg?

  That's her people.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  To try on his straitjacket. It was the loseriest thing I've ever witnessed in my entire life.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  And it was COVID, so I'm like sitting, sitting in this line with a mask on for like 40 minutes. It's like.

• 36:43Speaker 02

  I was not happy.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  I got up on stage, I tried it on and then I saw the picture that like I could buy for like a million dollars and I was like, I don't want this picture. I can't have this proof that I did this.

• 36:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did he ever date like a famous celebrity or anything?

• 36:54Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 36:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is he a thing?

• 36:55Speaker 02

  I mean, you're his number one fan. You tell us.

• 36:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, right. As part of the community, Taylor.

• 36:59Speaker 03

  I mean, he never did anyone famous. There's been scandal with him. He's not.

• 37:04Rayna Greenberg?

  A good guy?

• 37:05Speaker 03

  No.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  I didn't.

• 37:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was telling jokes on the stage.

• 37:07Speaker 03

  He said so many cancelable things on, yeah.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  On that stage. It was, he was giving like creepy vibes. He was giving.

• 37:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Back massages.

• 37:16Speaker 02

  Back massage energy.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  With his words.

• 37:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you know that?

• 37:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or you guessed it?

• 37:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I just guessed it. He has back massage on stage energy.

• 37:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 37:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, I got massaged on stage by him.

• 37:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  We went to the Chippendales, the same stripper, literally, like Rayna basically touched his dick and me, he lightly rubbed my shoulders. I was like, there's two types of girls.

• 37:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was like, you got a knot right there. Like, and meanwhile, I'm the bride. Like, I was like, I don't want to do it. Rayna loves to be humped and. Rayna's small. Like, that's why I don't like to be stripped on either. Like, she's a perfect, like stripper, like doll.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Yes, yes. She can be just flipped around and.

• 37:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, if they picked us up, our legs would like touch the, they wouldn't come off the floor. You know what I'm saying? Like, we would be hanging down their back.

• 37:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, some strippers have tried to pick up Ashley and they can do it.

• 37:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, the way that.

• 38:00Rayna Greenberg?

  But it looks.

• 38:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  When a stripper tries to pick me up, I am like, when I try to pick Azul up, like, I literally ground, like, all.

• 38:07Speaker 03

  Bolt to the floor.

• 38:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, four claws down. I don't want to be picked up. No, one time they came towards me in Toronto when we had a hockey stick for a prop on stage and I had the stick, like, trying to fight him off and he was coming closer.

• 38:20Rayna Greenberg?

  One stripper in Texas, there's a great photo of us doing it. He made me hold Ashley's waist while he's stripped on me and picked me up and I had to use her bodies and anchors.

• 38:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, anyway, so you, you're loving her being pregnant?

• 38:36Speaker 03

  Anyway, I'm pregnant.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  Yes, I'm loving it.

• 38:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  What, like, what do you love about it?

• 38:39Speaker 02

  Well, I'm loving it because the baby's still in there. That's why I love her being pregnant.

• 38:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  You don't want to be a mom yet?

• 38:43Speaker 02

  I'm like, I'm like, this is so fun with her living in there.

• 38:46Speaker 03

  And I can drive her around.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  Oh, Dee Dee, that's so fun. I mean, listen, I am scared as shit to have a baby. Like, I am like. We love sleep so much. I finally started sleeping so well. Once we came out here, I don't know what it is, but I've been like sleeping through the night.

• 39:01Rayna Greenberg?

  That happens.

• 39:01Speaker 02

  And I'm like, oh, my God, it's gonna go away in three seconds flat. So I don't know. I'm just, I'm excited to meet her. I think you're more excited to meet her. I am just, I'm really freaked out. I'm really scared. I'm really scared.

• 39:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad you said that. I think that a lot of people are really scared to be a parent.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  And they don't say it. Not that you are lying. I believe that you are like, like a normal amount of scared. I'm an abnormal amount, but I think more people feel like me. They just don't say anything.

• 39:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, can we talk about the decision?

• 39:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 39:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause you've been super open about not knowing if you wanted to have kids. And then I'm curious, did you always want to have kids? Like, how did you guys come to this decision? Yeah. And then I want to talk about the fear is anchored in. So let's do all of it.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  I've always wanted to have kids.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  And I, I've always wanted to be pregnant.

• 39:41Speaker 02

  Yes. It's been like a dream, like a, like a vision board, right?

• 39:44Speaker 03

  It's just one of those things. Like I look at pregnant women and I, I'm like, I just want to know what that feels like.

• 39:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  And I didn't, I was never ready until earlier this year, I was at the grocery store, I remember, and I saw a pregnant woman and I felt jealous for the first time. And I was like, whoa, I've never felt that way.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  And she came home and told me and I felt guilty. So I always say, I love her more than I love not having kids.

• 40:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 40:05Speaker 02

  So I'm just so selfless. It's like unbelievable, but she really wants kids. So I was like, if she's gonna, if I'm gonna be with her, which I, I mean, she's my life.

• 40:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  I'm gonna have to like make concessions. And I just felt like if we didn't have kids, you would probably resent me forever. And if we do have kids, I'll probably resent you. But I think if one of us has to resent the other, I'd rather be the resent her.

• 40:26Rayna Greenberg?

  You see people talk about that. Like what would you rather regret more, having kids or not having kids? Did you guys talk about this before you got married?

• 40:34Speaker 02

  No.

• 40:34Rayna Greenberg?

  You thought she would just change her mind?

• 40:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, I figured she would just give in.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  That's what a lot of people think. Correct. She was, I mean, we've been together for 10 years, so it took a very long time to get there. But I also like, when you came home from the grocery store and said that, I was like, you know what? She's waited so long. Like, it's fucking time. Like we had, we already had done IVF. Like we had the embryos ready to go.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  Like three and a half years ago, we did that.

• 40:55Speaker 02

  Oh, I was really pushing this shit off as long as I could.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  To be honest, we were, they disappeared. So weird. I don't know.

• 41:00Speaker 02

  So crazy.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  They shut down. I don't know.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  They thawed. Oops. I forgot to pay the bill.

• 41:05Speaker 03

  They rot. No, we were really trying to time it around this project that we have in LA and that's the truth.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:10Speaker 03

  And you know.

• 41:11Rayna Greenberg?

  You wanted to get pregnant for the project.

• 41:12Speaker 03

  No, no, no, like.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  We wanted to wait.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  I wanted to wait.

• 41:15Speaker 02

  So I kept using that as an excuse, like.

• 41:17Speaker 03

  So we kept getting pushed and pushed. And finally we were like, fuck it. I'm just gonna.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  Be pregnant for this project. Yep.

• 41:23Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys are really busy, though. I mean, you've been on tour with Stassi Schroeder for many years, and you produce a daily podcast.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 41:30Rayna Greenberg?

  When do you even know, like, now's the time, we're ready, you know, you're really busy.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  I just really followed your lead, I guess, on it. But, but you said something to me that fucked me up so bad. It was definitely after you were pregnant, or maybe right before. But you said something, like, I was like, well, what would you have done if I, like, said I didn't want to have kids? And like, that was a hundred percent no-go. And she was like, I would have been upset, but like, I would have been okay. And I was like, it would have been okay? What the fuck? I don't remember saying that. You're welcome, little girl. Yeah. Because I really, I think I would have dug my heels in a little bit more. If I knew this was an option. I didn't know it was an option. But I do think that there's a part of me that may have regretted not having a child. Yeah. So I'm like, you know what? You never wanted to be pregnant, though. No.

• 42:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was, seems like an easy decision. On who was gonna carry.

• 42:18Speaker 02

  Oh, my, like, my insides are the upside down. Like, when they went in there with the mom, they were like, good thing you don't want to carry. Because you, like, cannot.

• 42:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, I have a question. Taylor Strecker, so you were married, you were on our show years ago. We talked about this a lot, so I encourage you guys to go back and listen. But you were married to a man prior to you guys being married. Did you think back then, when you were with him, you guys might have kids? Or you've always been, I'm out on it?

• 42:37Speaker 02

  No, I just, so when I married Wasband, I was just, like, going through the motions. So I was just checking the boxes of life. So kids was definitely on that list.

• 42:45Rayna Greenberg?

  It was a box.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  But like, I was, I was taking Plan B, like, it was, I mean, vitamins. Like, I, I, every, we didn't have sex a lot. But on, like, those, that three times a year that it happened, I was running to get Plan B. So I definitely was aware enough that I didn't want kids, but I thought it was, I didn't want kids with him. Because like, just like, there was just, like, so much fighting and chaos, so.

• 43:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which is a smart decision. We, I feel like we've seen that. I feel like we have some friends that were like, I think she wants kids, but just not with him. I think you see that.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I kind of thought that's what it was for me, but then, I don't know, I just kind of, I think I also became the breadwinner, like, in my mind, after we got divorced. And I was always, like, depending on a man to take care of me.

• 43:27Speaker 03

  How's a mind fuck for you?

• 43:29Speaker 02

  It was. I was brought up really traditional. And so then when we got together, I was like, wait, I'm the man now. And like, I just, I saw the world through a different lens. And so then I was like, well, kids, money is my biggest fear and trigger. And so then it's like, well, children equal money. And so I maybe I'm just scared of money. It's not even that I'm scared of the child. I'm just scared of how much the child's gonna cost me.

• 43:50Rayna Greenberg?

  It's good to think about that. You need money. I mean, people are just like, when people say to me, like, we'll see what happens. I'm always, listen, don't, you guys do whatever you want, but to not plan a bank account and be able to afford it.

• 44:02Speaker 03

  In New York.

• 44:03Rayna Greenberg?

  The people that are like the, we'll just, if it happens, it happens. People, I'm like, you are living free on a level that I cannot imagine.

• 44:10Speaker 03

  In this economy?

• 44:11Rayna Greenberg?

  In this economy.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  That doesn't keep you up at night?

• 44:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 44:13Speaker 03

  Like, that would keep me up.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  And Taylor Donohue, you always wanted kids?

• 44:16Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 44:17Speaker 02

  Okay. No matter what. Even if you were single, I feel like you were, like, I'm gonna have a child. No matter what.

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, I always wanted a big, big family.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  Well, okay. Listen, listen. I, we're having, the baby girl's in there. I might really dig my heels in. I'm just saying.

• 44:34Speaker 03

  One at a time.

• 44:36Rayna Greenberg?

  You got one.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  One at a time.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, one thing at a time. But like, I already, I can't even go there. I'll get angry.

• 44:43Rayna Greenberg?

  We'll do one thing at a time. Well, how did you pick a donor?

• 44:47Speaker 03

  It's Andrew Cullen, isn't it?

• 44:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's Andrew Cullen.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  Do you wanna see him?

• 44:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you have sex with him? Be honest. No.

• 44:52Speaker 03

  It was a lot cheaper that way.

• 44:53Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. I kinda wish she had had sex with him.

• 44:56Speaker 03

  We chose him based off of his looks.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  Complete vanity decision.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  But then he happened to be like, tall and athletic and, and smart.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Thank God, because we were picking him no matter what.

• 45:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you meet him?

• 45:07Speaker 02

  No, but like,

• 45:08Speaker 03

  Do you wanna see him?

• 45:09Speaker 02

  We went through California Cryo Bank. And they have, like, it's very thorough. It's like, education and baby pictures and adult pictures. And God, what else? I mean, it's every, it's, it's everything. They, they interview them. You hear their voice quality, like,

• 45:25Rayna Greenberg?

  You hear their voice?

• 45:26Speaker 02

  I mean, it's, it's really, it's, it's amazing.

• 45:29Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it should be thorough.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  Yeah. They write essays, and if they're musicians, you hear their music. If they're poets, you read their poems.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:37Speaker 03

  Our guy's not a poet, but uh,

• 45:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Do they have to be? I heard this thing the other day. They have to be college educated? Or is that not a thing?

• 45:42Speaker 02

  You know, I think they are.

• 45:44Speaker 03

  There's really high standards for them.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  I think what they said, it's harder to be approved to be in California Cryo Bank than it is to like, get into Harvard.

• 45:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 45:51Speaker 02

  Something like that.

• 45:52Rayna Greenberg?

  That's so funny.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  I might have just made that up.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  Obviously, don't show him on camera, but.

• 45:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's him.

• 45:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, wow.

• 45:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  He is a big unit.

• 45:59Speaker 03

  Look at him. Look at, look at him. Look at him go.

• 46:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Nice. Okay.

• 46:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 46:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  You guys are gonna have an athlete.

• 46:04Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 46:05Speaker 02

  I know.

• 46:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  So tall. So excited.

• 46:08Rayna Greenberg?

  And I, just remind me, when you donate sperm, can that person like check a box essentially that says like, I will, I will allow myself to be-

• 46:16Speaker 02

  Now, it's like after like, I think it was like five years ago, like if you were donating, you have to be open to having the child reach out to you when they turn 18. You have to. There's no more anonymous donating. But like, if you have a donor from like 2010, I don't know when the years, but like an older donor, they might have not-

• 46:33Rayna Greenberg?

  It could be anonymous. When I was-

• 46:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't know what you were asking. So you have to be able to have your children-

• 46:38Speaker 03

  At California Cryo Bank at least.

• 46:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Reach out. So when I was like broke, 22 years old in New York, I went to an office to talk about donating my eggs and I had to say whether or not I would allow them to contact me or not. Whether or not I would allow the parents to contact me or the child.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  Right.

• 46:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Those were different things.

• 46:53Speaker 02

  And you said?

• 46:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't go through with it.

• 46:54Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 46:55Rayna Greenberg?

  So I just, I don't know. I go back and forth. I mean, I would want it to be their choice.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  Right.

• 46:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I guess, but I was 22. I just, I changed my mind.

• 47:02Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 47:30Rayna Greenberg?

  No, of course.

• 47:31Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 47:50Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 48:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Robes, slippers, blankets.

• 48:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 48:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Anything to not leave the house.

• 48:10Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 48:38Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 49:23Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 50:39Speaker 03

  So how many, this is the dumbest question of the interview, I know it, but like, is there a limit on how many kids?

• 50:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, legally, they're supposed to be.

• 50:48Speaker 03

  Well, that's what I'm saying. You can't have a bunch of people reaching out.

• 50:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so it's illegal because people can donate so much sperm that they start having like their kids, but their kids might like sleep with each other.

• 50:58Speaker 03

  Like, yeah.

• 51:00Speaker 02

  Oh, I've seen that documentary about that guy.

• 51:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We never watched it because we got scared. They can only give 20 vials of sperm.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 51:07Speaker 03

  We have nine.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  We have nine of the 20. So 11, and there could be another family that have 11 of them. So there could potentially be just the two of us that have all of his sperm, but when we are done, after her.

• 51:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. You can give her a biological sibling.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  Well, yeah. Oh, absolutely, yeah.

• 51:25Speaker 03

  We can sell back the vials of sperm.

• 51:27Speaker 02

  We could sell the sperm back so that it could go back into rotation so that more people could use his sperm.

• 51:32Speaker 03

  Wait, you guys have nine vials.

• 51:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  But how many did you use for the, for her?

• 51:36Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, one.

• 51:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just one. Oh, so you've.

• 51:38Speaker 02

  There's like billions in each vial. It's like bananas. And I believe they take them out like individually.

• 51:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you guys bought like potentially nine kids from him?

• 51:46Speaker 02

  Oh, more. I mean.

• 51:48Speaker 03

  I don't know how many, I don't know how many vials goes with each vial of IVF.

• 51:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying. That guy could have 20 kids.

• 51:54Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely.

• 51:55Rayna Greenberg?

  So in that documentary, the crazy thing was they said that like siblings in the world, when they meet each other, they feel a familiarity towards each other, but people can misinterpret it as a romantic familiarity.

• 52:03Speaker 02

  I saw that online on RSVU.

• 52:04Rayna Greenberg?

  And they can sleep with each other because they have that.

• 52:07Speaker 03

  I feel like I know you.

• 52:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 52:09Speaker 03

  California Cryo Bank has like an intense sibling registry.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 52:12Speaker 03

  So they track. And so they'll know. But they also say, when your kid hits a certain age, you wouldn't have a conversation with them to say, if you're gonna sleep with somebody, just like mention.

• 52:22Speaker 02

  Ask if they have a donor parent.

• 52:22Speaker 03

  Mention that you have a donor father so that they don't, you know.

• 52:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Put it on your hen, right?

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Honestly, that's such a good way to keep her like scared.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. You have seven million siblings, so you can't have sex with anybody.

• 52:35Speaker 02

  Do you want to have sex with your brother or sister?

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:37Speaker 02

  We're singing here. The lesbians, that we are.

• 52:41Speaker 03

  Guys, if you guys could stop being so straight.

• 52:45Speaker 02

  But I definitely, yeah, I'm gonna scare her so much with that. Like, you really don't wanna fuck somebody you're half-related to. So like, just make sure to like, have the discussion before. Which is good, cuz she'll really have to like, feel comfortable with somebody to have that discussion.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:00Rayna Greenberg?

  And so she can, you're saying the laws changed, so she legally has to be allowed to reach out to the donor?

• 53:05Speaker 02

  Correct. So he is, yeah, he's not anonymous, he is available for reaching out. But like, I also wanna be there for that. Because I also saw on Law and Order SVU, that you like, fall in love with your donor dad.

• 53:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I would do that, but it's the same thing as a sibling, cuz it's family. Cuz you're like, I feel familiarity with this person, they feel like home.

• 53:22Speaker 03

  Did you ever see The Kids Are Alright? Where Annette Bening?

• 53:25Speaker 02

  It's, it's literally.

• 53:27Speaker 03

  Julianne Moore.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  It's a horror film for lesbians.

• 53:30Speaker 03

  Julianne Moore and Annette Bening are married, lesbian moms, they have kids. And one of them meets the father.

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Donor dad.

• 53:37Speaker 03

  His donor dad, Mark Ruffalo, and one of the moms falls in love.

• 53:39Speaker 02

  Julianne Moore falls in love with him.

• 53:40Speaker 03

  So Tay doesn't want me to meet the donor dad, cuz she thinks I'm, cuz I'm so straight.

• 53:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:45Speaker 03

  Cuz I'm gonna fall in love with him.

• 53:46Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 53:47Rayna Greenberg?

  But you have a kid together, I can see.

• 53:49Speaker 02

  I could see it.

• 53:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, she might be like, we're a family, we are a family.

• 53:53Speaker 02

  Exactly. So I'm like, fuck this guy. You know, I don't like, you can't be alone with him either, it's fucking.

• 53:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, it's almost like, man. Maybe it wasn't good he's so hot.

• 54:02Speaker 03

  No, I'm kidding.

• 54:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Take someone uglier.

• 54:05Speaker 03

  Rather have an ugly kid than have me run away with him?

• 54:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, does the kid have to be 18 to reach out, or like, can your kid be 10?

• 54:11Speaker 02

  No.

• 54:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  Oh, it's 18.

• 54:13Rayna Greenberg?

  It was 18. Yeah, I had to check both boxes, cuz they reach out at like, a certain age, it was a whole thing.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, right, your personal experience.

• 54:20Speaker 03

  But now we have an extra, we have an embryo, we have a male embryo.

• 54:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh.

• 54:24Speaker 03

  So if, for whatever reason, we decide not to use him.

• 54:30Speaker 02

  Right.

• 54:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, that's gonna be the Eagles player, so you should.

• 54:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  Oh, well, when you say it like that.

• 54:36Speaker 03

  We could donate that embryo to a couple who can't.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  It could be adopted.

• 54:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Aww, okay.

• 54:43Speaker 03

  Which, if I was like 15 years younger, I would have been like creeped out by that, but now like later in life, I'm like, oh, that's actually a really nice thing.

• 54:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 54:49Speaker 03

  I wouldn't do that.

• 54:50Speaker 02

  Would it drive you nuts, knowing that you're like, your son was out there?

• 54:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 54:54Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 54:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then your daughter's sibling.

• 54:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you talked about like who's, you're gonna be the mom, Taylor Donahue, you're gonna be the dad.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  I wanna be fodder.

• 55:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you wanna be like on tour.

• 55:04Speaker 02

  You know it, 20%, 80%.

• 55:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, absentee father.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  That's psychotic.

• 55:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are you gonna change diapers?

• 55:10Speaker 02

  I will change diapers. I'm not Donald Trump.

• 55:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you gonna get a night nurse?

• 55:15Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Yes.

• 55:16Speaker 03

  We just found one.

• 55:16Speaker 02

  Her name is Summer. We're obsessed.

• 55:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Andrew Collin.

• 55:19Speaker 02

  Can you imagine? Honestly, with all the cats he's been adopting, he probably would be a great night nurse.

• 55:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  It all comes back to Andrew. Yeah, he got another. We were confused.

• 55:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, Texas Sony?

• 55:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Andrew, co-host your podcast every week.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  So I have a daily show. It's called Taste of Taylor. Mondays available for everyone, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on Patreon, patreon.com/tastetaylor. So Andrew is like a regular co-host on the show.

• 55:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Us too now.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  Yes. I just love him. I can't quit him.

• 55:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was such a fun thing to be like, oh, this can, I can just call out.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  No, I don't like it.

• 55:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's just, it's happened once, but he was like the perfect villain.

• 55:50Rayna Greenberg?

  He was absolutely perfect.

• 55:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  He prepped for a man.

• 55:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I mean, yeah.

• 55:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was so impressed.

• 55:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I said, our snack episodes on Thursday, it's all pop culture. I sent him like a list of articles. He read every one of them.

• 56:02Speaker 02

  He also is very pop culture savvy. I was shocked by that when we first started doing it. I was like, there's no way. He knows Housewives. He doesn't really like watch it, but.

• 56:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  He knows enough.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  He knows the players.

• 56:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's unbelievable. Yeah.

• 56:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Mm-hmm. Okay.

• 56:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so what's next? Raina said opposites attract.

• 56:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I wanna talk about your relationship. So, I mean, we've known both of you for a long time. And Taylor Strecker, you're out front, you're doing the live shows, you go on tour with Stassi Schroder, you have the podcast. And Taylor Donohue, you're the producer. Like you, none of this exists without you. Like,

• 56:31Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 56:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I asked Taylor Strecker questions a lot, and she's like, you gotta, you gotta ask Taylor Donohue. She's in charge of it.

• 56:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, and you'll even text. We become friends with you later. We were friends with you first for a couple of years even, but you seem like you are the one that needs to be in charge of her sometimes.

• 56:47Speaker 03

  I'll text you guys.

• 56:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  It has to, yeah.

• 56:49Speaker 03

  I'll text you back from her phone and be like, hey, it's. TD.

• 56:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  You guys just like Ari and Yang. I want to talk about it. Like, are you so opposites?

• 56:57Speaker 02

  So opposite.

• 56:59Speaker 03

  I'm just entertained by her all the time. She's just, I am not like attracted to people who look or act like me.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  Like people who are like mellow or like, I don't know.

• 57:09Speaker 02

  Tall, blonde and hot. Yeah.

• 57:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  Works for me. You're much quieter than I am, but that doesn't mean that you like, don't speak, obviously, as we're seeing. But like, you, you like to be behind the scenes.

• 57:20Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:21Speaker 02

  You like to be mellow, you like to be chill. The thing is that she listens to me talk all day long, but like, once she's done with the work part, like, she needs her quiet time away from me. And I get it, because it's like a lot to listen to me every day. Maybe like two podcasts a day on some days.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:35Speaker 02

  Edit it, pull video clips. Like, I'm like, are you gonna get fucking sick of me? And then like, I want to talk afterwards and she does need breaks. Like, she's like, you have to give me some space.

• 57:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, you are like a main character energy and it sounds like you aren't nor do you want to be. And I feel like that's the only way romantic relationships work, not work relationships. Like, we've seen this and you sometimes see two main characters come together and it doesn't work out. They're just fighting for the spotlight.

• 58:02Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 58:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you still seem, Taylor Donohue, like very much in charge, poised, confident. Like, you don't seem like you're a backseat to her.

• 58:11Speaker 03

  No, but I think, I don't know, there must be like a personality type that's like an observer. Like, my whole life, I've been kind of just like watching the world, like as a kid and even now. And so it's like, I just happen to have married an entertainer who I can work with and like observe her and grow our business together. So it just happens to like work perfectly.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 58:31Speaker 03

  But yeah, I just like, like that role of listening and like reacting versus just like, rah! You know what I mean?

• 58:39Speaker 02

  I think it's your quiet confidence. Like, she walks into a room and everybody's just like, she's somebody, like, you're drawn to her. I feel like she was a healer in a former life.

• 58:47Speaker 03

  You remind me of Shoshone, because you look that way.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Yes, totally. It's not like, just chill. Like, I come in the room, I'm like, blah, blah, like I'm like, look at me, look at me. You know what I mean? So, thank God we're so opposite, because if there was two of me, I would have drowned myself.

• 59:03Speaker 03

  It just doesn't work. I mean,

• 59:04Speaker 02

  It just doesn't work.

• 59:05Speaker 03

  We've been seeing it more and more. I'm fascinated by it.

• 59:08Speaker 02

  Right.

• 59:08Speaker 03

  Because I think sometimes those types of people are drawn to each other because they're like, "We can be a power couple and do this." I don't know. And then you kind of watch them, like Raina said, like, fight for the spotlight.

• 59:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:17Speaker 03

  Right.

• 59:17Speaker 02

  The only thing we fight about that I feel like is probably going to be an issue in the future.

• 59:22Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  So, you know, we're working on projects. We're doing tings. I see you becoming more of like a presence in your own right on social media. She's so fucking crazy about pictures. Like, she'll post carousels before me, and I'm like, "My Instagram makes us money. What, like, would you like to give me some of those pictures? Because I'm so bad, you guys, I'm so bad at social media." And I'm like, "Help me." And she's like, "They're my pictures. It's my carousel." And I'm like, "Bitch."

• 59:50Speaker 03

  I'll post a carousel, and she'll come downstairs from the office and not talk to me. I'm like, "She's bad at me."

• 59:55Speaker 02

  That's not true. I yell at you.

• 59:56Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 59:56Speaker 02

  Wait, why?

• 59:57Speaker 03

  You'll be quiet.

• 59:58Speaker 02

  You had time to do your own carousel.

• 1:00:01Speaker 03

  She wants me to make a carousel for her before mine.

• 1:00:03Rayna Greenberg?

  And you scooped her on the pictures?

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  At least give me a heads up.

• 1:00:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Why don't you collab?

• 1:00:07Speaker 03

  I just know what she's mad about. I take the pictures.

• 1:00:10Speaker 02

  It's happening right now for everybody. This is what happens. Zee, you take them all. Like, I need them.

• 1:00:15Speaker 03

  So take them.

• 1:00:16Speaker 02

  So give them to me.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  I will, but I'm gonna do mine first just because...

• 1:00:19Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, it's a thing.

• 1:00:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Why don't you collab?

• 1:00:22Speaker 03

  I don't want to collab on everything.

• 1:00:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Explain it. No, no, no. Let's break it down.

• 1:00:26Speaker 03

  I'm my own person.

• 1:00:28Rayna Greenberg?

  This is how she exerts her independence. That's what it is.

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  Her power.

• 1:00:31Rayna Greenberg?

  She's just like, "I work on you all day, every day."

• 1:00:34Speaker 03

  And photos are my thing. Like, I'm a photographer.

• 1:00:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:36Speaker 03

  So it's like, curating a carousel is something I like to do. Give me something.

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  Listen, it's fine. Once-

• 1:00:43Speaker 03

  You do your links. Do your-

• 1:00:45Speaker 02

  I will do my links.

• 1:00:46Speaker 03

  Stick to your links.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  That felt so hurtful.

• 1:00:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, Taylor, I will. Taylor Scherzer's links, she is my number one. Like, I click her links and like, "Give You Shop My Money."

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  Thank you. Thank you.

• 1:00:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Every outfit you put on is so cute. I'm like, I must have it. You walk in here, we're like, "Where's your shoes from?"

• 1:01:03Speaker 03

  We're trying.

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  Dolce Vita. Thank you, link.

• 1:01:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let's like, we'll link it in the episode notes. Code G G. There was a couple that fought about this, like a famous couple, and I can't remember.

• 1:01:14Rayna Greenberg?

  He scooped her on the photos?

• 1:01:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was like, he would post photos first, then she was so pissed.

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  Now I'm dying to know.

• 1:01:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, and I feel like.

• 1:01:23Speaker 02

  I do not know.

• 1:01:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll, I'll try to jog my memory.

• 1:01:26Speaker 03

  A man posting first is different.

• 1:01:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 1:01:27Speaker 03

  Doesn't that feel different?

• 1:01:28Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like, how dare you? What right do you have?

• 1:01:32Speaker 03

  Like, if Shashank posted your wedding photos first, would you be like, what?

• 1:01:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  I actually wouldn't care because he's private and not in the.

• 1:01:38Speaker 03

  Oh, that's different.

• 1:01:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, right.

• 1:01:39Rayna Greenberg?

  He can do whatever he wants.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  But he also probably doesn't, he's not running to his phone.

• 1:01:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, he'd never.

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  I gotta beat Ashley. Can you imagine?

• 1:01:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, he'd like to ever really post, but.

• 1:01:48Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:01:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  And if he's posting a carousel, I am over his shit. What photos are you posting?

• 1:01:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I have a thing. You would know. Do you respect the, do you respect that she has to look a certain way in every photo?

• 1:01:58Speaker 02

  Oh, no, not at all.

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Now I do.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  Pull up the fucking picture right now, and you can show this to everybody. I, we were at Stassi Bo's wedding in Italy. I officiated. I was just not feeling the best version of myself. She was just like a golden goddess, like she always is. And I got into a fight with her at their wedding, at the table, sitting across from them. I looked at my phone and she had posted a fucking picture of me.

• 1:02:20Rayna Greenberg?

  You snuck a carousel?

• 1:02:21Speaker 02

  I looked like, not even, she just posted one picture. I look like a potato bug. I'm like, why wouldn't you fucking ask me?

• 1:02:28Speaker 03

  You always look beautiful, but now in retrospect.

• 1:02:32Speaker 03

  I know you weren't feeling really great about yourself at the time.

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  No, you have to be honest. It's bad. You're looking at a blob and.

• 1:02:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is this you too?

• 1:02:40Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, the reason why it's bad is that Taylor Donohue does, you look like a model.

• 1:02:48Speaker 02

  And now, and now I make her leave it up just to prove a point.

• 1:02:51Rayna Greenberg?

  A six foot tall model.

• 1:02:55Speaker 03

  It's not.

• 1:02:55Speaker 02

  It's horrible. I looked at her and I said, do you hate me?

• 1:02:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I hate your weird face, it's the angle. Taylor Donohue, you look 12 out of 10.

• 1:03:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Secondhand mad.

• 1:03:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Years later about this.

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  It was pre GLP-1. She wasn't feeling good about herself, but I didn't notice.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  So the way I'm gonna show her that I understood everything with all of her feelings, I'm going to post.

• 1:03:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's also like, she looks so good. Like, it's really a lot.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Did you only look at yourself?

• 1:03:20Speaker 03

  I went to the bathroom, like, I was like, beep boop boop.

• 1:03:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  When you said blob, I was like, there's no way. And now I'm like, I see.

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  Blob.

• 1:03:25Speaker 03

  I'm so sorry.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  81 comments and caption, "My heart," not the caption.

• 1:03:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, it doesn't have anything to do with like weight. It just, like, you're just a little.

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  It's just a bad angle.

• 1:03:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I said this to somebody this morning. I have a different weight in every photo somebody takes of me. It's just the angle just has 100% to do with it. It's just, that is so funny. It's like, it reminds me of people post carousels for other people's birthdays. And like, you're like, "Happy birthday to my bestie." And it's like, "That girl looks good in all the photos." And the bestie looks like mid.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:52Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what she did.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  You know what she did? I know what it is. She truly thinks I look exactly the same right now as I did the whole time.

• 1:04:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what it is.

• 1:04:01Speaker 02

  Her, like, she's blind with love. And so, and like, I knew the intent. Intent is important, but I'm like, I know she just like loves me and she thinks we look like very in love in this picture. But like, you need to ask photo approval.

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  Now I do.

• 1:04:14Speaker 02

  And my birthday carousels are crazy. I've given up.

• 1:04:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  But this, it's what, it is what you want as opposed to the alternative, because I feel the same way. Like, I can't believe photos that Shashank, because like, you look so beautiful here. I'm like, that's the worst photo I've ever s- how can you even say, what, who is that? And he doesn't see it like that. So that's what you want as opposed to a partner that's like, "You don't look good in this."

• 1:04:37Speaker 02

  Right, right. You know what?

• 1:04:39Speaker 03

  Justice for me.

• 1:04:40Speaker 02

  You're Justin Long and I'm Kate Bosworth, which actually is like the greatest compliment I could ever give myself.

• 1:04:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  What happened with them?

• 1:04:45Speaker 02

  Justin Long posts the most, like, like Kate is so beautiful. She couldn't look bad if she tried, but she, it's always like pictures without makeup on her. She's like smiling like this. But you think she like looks so beautiful? That's like, that's like his Kate, you know? Wait, can I tell you? Yeah, that is true. It's sweet. I don't know that they're a couple. And I know about every couple. I think you do. We used to talk about Justin Long. I know. I remember what he did. Cause I think I saw him on Raya and started a conversation like, is he hot or not? I feel like that's a real debatable thing. I think it is too, actually. So Kate grew up in my town. So I have an unhealthy obsession with her. She's fully aware of it. And I think she was very nice about it, but I think she thinks I'm like, ree, ree. And she's a little right. Okay? Yeah, you're like single white female. Kate Bosworth, like when Blue Crush came out?

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  I can't even imagine her having like a tie to her. She, so she moved to town when she was in The Horse Whisperer. But Tay was like the actress in town. It was me. I was Annie. It was me. And then I left.

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  And I'm not a left. To go to all-girl private Catholic school where I was training to become a lesbian. And she moved into town and I was like, everyone's gonna miss me. And they were like, Taylor Swift or who? We, this girl's hot, blonde, she was in movies, she's legit famous. She had been in The Horse Whisperer, so she's... And like, no one gave a shit about me. She stole my best friend. Oh my gosh. She didn't steal him. He literally was, I mean, he was willing, ready and able. I remember, I would call him, I was like, what are you doing? He was for sale. He was mad at me that I left. So then he was like, okay, it's coming over to watch Johnson's Creek. Wait, I can feel this. This hurts. He weaponized Kate Bosworth against you. He weaponized Kate Bosworth against me. Chris, shout out to Chris. You trust no Chris. Yeah. We've said trust no Chris for years.

• 1:06:28Speaker 02

  And I love him and he's like my favorite person ever, but he tormented me with her. Anyway, it's a long saga and quite frankly, I, I'm, I am, yeah, but it's one-sided. Tay did a monologue entire podcast by alone, like talking about Kate Bosworth? And guess who heard it? Kate Bosworth. Did she reach out? No. Here's what I know. I know she's a ma- she was made aware of it.

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  As was Justin. I don't know in what capacity they were made aware of it. I don't know if it was like secondhand. I don't know if they sat down and listened. I do know it was sent to them. But I will say the takeaway was very like, oh, wow. I always thought Tate was like so cool in high school. And like, I didn't know she felt this way. So basically, like, I think she was creeped out, but like in a very nice way of saying, like basically was like, I always thought Taylor was like cool and pretty, dot, dot, dot.

• 1:07:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's media trained. I'm like thinking about someone doing this for me and like listening to it. It's like, I can't even imagine it like, because obviously people hated all of us in high school for some reason or another.

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:07:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like I, I had a girl come to me one time years later at a party and she was like, I was running for like school president or whatever. She, and my biggest best sign got ripped down and stuffed in the trash can. It like brought me to tears. And I was like, who would do that? Like, that's crazy. And like years later, this girl came up and she was like, I did it. I was, I was jealous of you. And she was like, I ripped down your poster. And like, I'm thinking of like,

• 1:07:52Rayna Greenberg?

  You're so lucky. I don't think that I was the villain in anyone's story. I just like, I don't think I like.

• 1:07:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Probably fucked somebody's boyfriend.

• 1:07:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I probably did. No, I don't think I did that. I just, I don't think I really fucked anybody's boyfriend. Like, I want to be the villain in someone's story. I want somebody to just like sit up at night thinking about me, mad at me, looking at my photos like, fuck this bitch.

• 1:08:11Speaker 02

  But that's me. I'm the person.

• 1:08:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I want that power over somebody. I want to be Kate Bosworth, just blissfully unaware that I am just ruining somebody's life.

• 1:08:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like I'm the Kate Bosworth, like to hear that podcast and, and like, even though I do know like this girl would beef with me, but like to listen to that as Kate is just so funny.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  I mean, I would hope she would take it as like a compliment. I think it was probably also a little scary. Like, I think that that was the whole point of like, I thought that she was cool. Little did I know, she's like literally making hair dolls of me and like making them into, what is it called? Zombie dolls? What are those called?

• 1:08:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Voodoo dolls.

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  Zombie dolls.

• 1:08:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. I did have one person, but it doesn't count as an ex. It's different. But my ex like married somebody and I was talking to him after that relationship and he was like, she hated you. We had fights about you. And I was like, oh. That sounds so good, especially because him and I never spoke again after we broke up. So to find out that I was a problem in their relationship. Oh, for sure.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  I think Kate is just like, why Kate, why, like, I'm friends with famous people, Kate. I am cool. Like, be my friend. Be my friend. Be my friend.

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  I checked to see if she follows you, like.

• 1:09:15Speaker 02

  She doesn't.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  Once a month. Also, she's probably like, can I stop getting Google alerts of my name with Taylor Scheckter talking about me? Because you literally.

• 1:09:22Rayna Greenberg?

  We're gonna put it in the episode description.

• 1:09:23Speaker 03

  But like, I don't, like. She's getting pinged.

• 1:09:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Don't you think she should like be cooler about it?

• 1:09:27Speaker 03

  She should follow you.

• 1:09:27Speaker 02

  I really would love to have her on the podcast, but also I would die. Like, I don't think, like, I'm so.

• 1:09:33Speaker 03

  What if she rejected coming on?

• 1:09:34Speaker 02

  I mean, she probably would for her own safety. I understand that. She's well worthy, which means I want to like kidnap her, put her in my well, make her lo- put lotion on the skin, does what it's told, or else it gets the hose again.

• 1:09:46Rayna Greenberg?

  All right. Well, now I see why she hasn't reached out, but she knows she's in a interview with her. It's serious.

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  I did.

• 1:09:52Speaker 03

  And she said we should get in touch. We should stay in touch. And Kate gave her email.

• 1:09:58Rayna Greenberg?

  She's like, DM me. Was it like hello at Kate Bosworth too? It wasn't really her email address.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  I think that's why I'm so confused because it's been like, it's been, it's, it's really a blue ball situation. Me being the testicles. Okay. Like, it's just like, we, she moved to town. She was friends with my best friend. He cut me out. It wasn't her fault. He cut me out. Then her and I were like together. We were building houses for people in Appalachia. We all smoked one cigarette together. All that. She denies it. It's the truth. But like, she was like, we should hang out. And then we were talking about Chris. And I was like, oh, Chris. I think Chris is like trying to pit us against each other. And she was like, oh, that, Chris could do that. So then we like kind of were like becoming friendly. And then she was like, my ex-boyfriend really likes you. You should date him. So I did.

• 1:10:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, wait.

• 1:10:43Speaker 02

  And I dated, I dated him because I wanted to be friends with her.

• 1:10:46Rayna Greenberg?

  You pretended to like a man.

• 1:10:48Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 1:10:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Just for Kate Bosworth.

• 1:10:49Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 1:10:50Rayna Greenberg?

  You're a lesbian.

• 1:10:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kate Bosworth more is like unmatched.

• 1:10:56Speaker 03

  It's a saga.

• 1:10:57Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 1:10:58Rayna Greenberg?

  This is honestly crazier than Nikki Glaser and Taylor Swift.

• 1:11:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, get out of my brain. I was just gonna say, why hasn't Taylor Swift addressed Nikki yet?

• 1:11:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't get it because like at this point, what was the number? Like Nikki Glaser has spent, what, what was the number? Like not 50,000.

• 1:11:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  But she, Nikki Glaser is the most famous comedian in the world right now. Like she just did SNL. I know, but Taylor Swift would look so cool to acknowledge her. And like, I don't, Nikki told us at the, at Andrew Collins wedding, like they kind of an opportunity to me, but it just things went south, whatever. Nothing shady happened. I don't want to speak on these famous people, but like Taylor should be like, well, cause you know, this would really make, give me cool, like clout.

• 1:11:36Rayna Greenberg?

  But like she's friends with everybody is what I don't understand. Like she, every person is in her like press box at the tour and she has so many friends.

• 1:11:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 1:11:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Like Nikki Glaser, it's a thing. It's more how much Nikki loves her.

• 1:11:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  But she is the most famous comedian right now. Like Nikki is not Taylor Swift, but she is on the level.

• 1:11:53Speaker 02

  She is.

• 1:11:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Put her in the box. That would go crazy.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  She's not in the box. But Taylor's is also a grudge holder. So it's like, and Nikki talked about this, right?

• 1:12:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 1:12:02Speaker 02

  Yes. Where she like, she made fun of Taylor at some point. It was a gajillion years ago.

• 1:12:08Rayna Greenberg?

  But also who hasn't?

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  Totally. And then what? And then it was, was it Miss Americana?

• 1:12:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  Netflix?

• 1:12:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Nikki, Nikki was on it or something, right?

• 1:12:15Speaker 02

  No, she, she was like talking about people talking shit about her. And like in the package, Nikki was one of the people delivering the joke. And Nikki said she wanted to die. She wanted to die when she saw that. She was like, oh my God. And she has profusely apologized, spent countless.

• 1:12:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so she was jealous of the time and stuff.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it would look really cool if Taylor were just like.

• 1:12:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, why would you not want to be tied to like the coolest comedian?

• 1:12:37Speaker 02

  It would be such a boss move of Taylor to do.

• 1:12:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I agree.

• 1:12:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. I'm just, she's friends with people way less famous. She's known for being like the girl. She's out of town. She was in New York all week while Nikki was doing SNL, just going out.

• 1:12:48Speaker 02

  She should have been at SNL. It would have been so cool.

• 1:12:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  That, that now it's blowing my mind even more.

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  It's giving Taylor Swift and like the, you know.

• 1:12:58Speaker 03

  Giving Kate Bosworth and Taylor Strecker.

• 1:12:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just be cooler is my point. No offense, Taylor Swift.

• 1:13:02Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:13:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  She should have been at SNL.

• 1:13:04Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:13:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  The best, that would have been the best cameo. There would be no better cameo for Taylor Swift to be at SMN.

• 1:13:10Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 1:13:10Rayna Greenberg?

  And said she went to the corner store. I mean, listen, it's good, but like, it's been done.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  Like, let's go to the corner store.

• 1:13:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm just tired of the paparazzi photos. It's nothing against her. I'm just tired of them. Like, when she was out with Travis every night, I liked it.

• 1:13:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  And now I'm just over. Besides the one of her with Sabrina Carpenter looking like me and right now.

• 1:13:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, my God. Literally, look at the two of us. Literally. Taylor is also in the forefront, so she looks even taller.

• 1:13:33Speaker 03

  So big. Her shoes are this big.

• 1:13:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Six inch heels, the dumbest outfit for always, but those shoes were great.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  Always the dumbest outfit.

• 1:13:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Sabrina Carpenter is this little thimble wearing near her.

• 1:13:42Speaker 02

  Kitchen heels.

• 1:13:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Kitchen heels.

• 1:13:43Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:13:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Taylor Swift has six inch high heels on.

• 1:13:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 1:13:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kate, if you're listening.

• 1:13:49Rayna Greenberg?

  And we think you could be friends with Taylor.

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  Please, God, Kate, I'm so sorry if you're listening. I prof- I prof- I prof- I apologize.

• 1:13:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's glitched.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  It's just going, it just, there's too many ups and downs. Like, I remember when I was at Sirius, I was like, you guys don't understand the amount of dreams I've had about Kate. And like, like, meeting Kate and hanging out with Kate and being friends with Kate. It's really crazy.

• 1:14:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  The way that this started, and I thought it was gonna be like a quick little, like, we're from the same town.

• 1:14:11Speaker 03

  An anecdote.

• 1:14:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I thought we were gonna move on. This is the best.

• 1:14:14Rayna Greenberg?

  But does she know that your friends, Taylor, your friends like a lot of famous people?

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  I know. I remember she was like hanging out with Lala for a little bit because Randall, she like, was like, he was a movie producer, so they worked, and I was like, "Oh, if she's gonna hang out with Randall, she's hanging with Lala, and then Lala's friends with Stassi, and then Stassi, we've become friends, we'll be friends." Like, I was like, "It's gonna happen."

• 1:14:32Speaker 03

  Kate doesn't follow any of the famous people taste friends with.

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:35Speaker 03

  I check.

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:36Rayna Greenberg?

  But she has to listen to like, I mean, you're-

• 1:14:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also, you checking the Instagram, too.

• 1:14:39Speaker 03

  This is a science. It's part of my job.

• 1:14:41Rayna Greenberg?

  But we like, okay, we came to the relaunch of your podcast. It was Hannah Burnery, it was Tinks, it was the Toast Girls. I mean, it was a who's who of media. And us, obviously, were there.

• 1:14:50Speaker 03

  You guys, Heather McMahon.

• 1:14:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, Heather McMahon, stop bar.

• 1:14:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  But yes, Kate Bosworth, like, she's been around.

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:14:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's got it. She's a name.

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  But yes.

• 1:14:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Those women are like more of it girls at the moment, and those are all who you surround yourself with.

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Like, Kate, I'm cool. Like, who people like me?

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  We literally.

• 1:15:09Speaker 03

  I'm gonna bring this up in therapy. I'm surprised we haven't talked about it yet.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  We literally though, so she finally came to Sirius to promote a movie. She was with her ex-husband, Michael Polla. It was a movie they did together. And I'm like, oh my God. And I'm like, there's no way she's gonna do my show. Cause if she knows how psycho I am, she's gonna avoid me. She does a show. I'm like coming in, I'm like, is she gonna remember me? I came in and it was like, we were best friends. Like it was like, oh my God, and this, that and the other. And we took a picture together and she like, put my head against her shoulder and like held it like my mother.

• 1:15:34Rayna Greenberg?

  This is insane.

• 1:15:35Speaker 02

  And I was like, oh my God, this is it. We're gonna get to be friends again, kind of, who never were. And then gave me her email. Like this is, I get there and then.

• 1:15:45Rayna Greenberg?

  You have to want it a little less. And listen.

• 1:15:48Speaker 02

  We all want to manufacture.

• 1:15:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Out of the tube. No, let me just explain to you how like people work. It's hard to manufacture, but you have to play hard to get. And listen, we're too far down the road. You just said, I want her in my well. But like, I, I don't, I listen, I think that like, I don't know. We, I just, what's a metaphor for it? You've already rung the bell. Okay. You can't unring it.

• 1:16:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, you can't unring it.

• 1:16:07Rayna Greenberg?

  You have to want this less. That's the only road to Kate.

• 1:16:10Speaker 02

  I want it. I want it none.

• 1:16:11Speaker 03

  Right now, just like Tony Robbins, Jew. I don't know what just happened. Her tone changed.

• 1:16:16Rayna Greenberg?

  She's, I would say that's how you get a man. Like you can't like a man and communicate that to a man. That man will never like you.

• 1:16:23Speaker 02

  Also, the fact that I'm an out and proud queer woman now, like, like she's like, so she's been in love with me.

• 1:16:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, okay. There's that.

• 1:16:32Speaker 03

  But also like, I was on Netflix the other day and I was just like clicking through and I just like happened to stop on something random and I wasn't paying attention and I stopped on Blue Crush and all I hear is Tay go, are you fucking serious?

• 1:16:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you can't play it in the house?

• 1:16:44Speaker 03

  Are you trying to hurt me?

• 1:16:46Speaker 02

  I think next year for Halloween, I'm gonna be Kate in Blue Crush.

• 1:16:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Get the contact?

• 1:16:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:16:51Rayna Greenberg?

  One blue contact.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  No, that's her real eyes.

• 1:16:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 1:16:54Speaker 03

  You would have to wear it to do it.

• 1:16:56Speaker 02

  Sorry. I'm the number one fan of her.

• 1:16:59Rayna Greenberg?

  You have to act like you don't care and you don't know. Okay. You don't know anything about her eyes.

• 1:17:03Speaker 02

  No, and you guys, Chris is still my best friend and he is still her best friend. Like.

• 1:17:08Rayna Greenberg?

  She really doesn't want to be your friend. All right. So we wanted to move on. We, this topic I feel like is perfect. Cause we were talking about you and all your, all your famous friends, not including Kate.

• 1:17:17Speaker 03

  I'll take this one thing.

• 1:17:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina Cantruzi.

• 1:17:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you said this thing, we did this great, we did Lady World, Lady Gang together in Florida. And you came with Stassi and you're, we keep saying this, but you're the godmothers, right? Of her chi- of her children.

• 1:17:30Speaker 02

  Her little boy is our godbaby. Yes.

• 1:17:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And you said this thing to me and you said, I'm the number one, number two. And you say it was like your whole chest with like so much confidence. And I think some people like always kind of feel like I'm the sidekick.

• 1:17:43Speaker 02

  I, I have to claim it. You know what I mean? I also am like a big fan of saying things before other people get to say them, right? So I'm like, I am a professional social climber. That is like what I do. Why, I can't get over Kate because she was my first failed attempt, but whatever, let's keep it moving. Stassi's my best friend. Claudia Oshry's another one of my best friends. Like these women are powerhouses. Hannah Berner, like I.

• 1:18:06Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  You guys.

• 1:18:08Rayna Greenberg?

  You weren't going to mention it, but Taylor Donohue did.

• 1:18:10Speaker 02

  Well, I'm thinking of an individual person because they're two.

• 1:18:13Rayna Greenberg?

  No, they're bigger.

• 1:18:14Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? But like, okay, I know what it is. My best friend from college, Nicole, she works at Sirius still. I got my job because of her and I got the gig and she actually didn't get the gig. She still was like at reception for a while. And then now she's like on the radio, she's still there. She didn't get fired from Sirius. Like, so she started getting a lot of opportunities and as best friends, she wasn't jealous of me when I got the gig and she didn't. So I wanted to always like pay it back to her and like be happy for her. But she got to go and like Chelsea Handler, like big things that I was like, oh, I'm jealous, but like I'm going to be happy.

• 1:18:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:42Speaker 02

  So I trained myself. It's like way better to be happy for somebody than to be jealous of them. But maybe I've taken that a little too far and like made an identity.

• 1:18:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's amazing. I think that you've surround, you both have surrounded yourself, but incredibly talented, amazing women. And I think that you want to support them and uplift them. And they do the same for you also. Like you're right there with them, but you just, you feel like empowered by being in the presence of other amazing women.

• 1:19:08Speaker 02

  Yes, but I don't.

• 1:19:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's an interesting thing you said. That's really like vulnerable to share.

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because I think it's like a human. Thing, like everyone has jealousy. I want what she has or he has.

• 1:19:20Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:19:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  We talk about this all the time and this, you have to kind of curate your social media follows and things like that and just take care of yourself when it comes to that. Cause I think it's like just such a human nature, but you're saying you like, maybe you over corrected a little.

• 1:19:32Speaker 03

  Correct. And I fought against it for a long time because I was like, you should be the star of your own show. You should be the number one. And it took me a while to realize that because she is saying this, it doesn't mean she wants any less.

• 1:19:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:43Speaker 03

  She doesn't not want to do things because you think you're number two. It's just sort of like a narrative you play. It's like a shtick that you have.

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  But I mean it.

• 1:19:53Speaker 03

  I know you mean it.

• 1:19:53Speaker 02

  I'm like proud of myself.

• 1:19:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I know you really are like a hype girl. Like you really.

• 1:19:58Speaker 03

  She's like the best friend you could have.

• 1:19:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:00Speaker 03

  She's like the most loyal, uplifting, self-deprecating friend you can have.

• 1:20:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. But I just like to see other people win, but I think that maybe, yeah, it's maybe there's a little overcorrection. Like I'm too comfortable in the number two spot and like I need to like, see myself as main character energy too. So it's something I'm actively working on.

• 1:20:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like I think some people really want to be the best, like the, the number one.

• 1:20:22Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:20:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't need it. I want to be at the top. I don't need to be that I'm not, I will stop at nothing till I'm the most whatever. Like I would just want to be in the top and be doing well. And then have these, all these other things in my life that are really great that not everybody has, whether it's like friendships or marriage, family, all these things. I want to have a really impressive career and I want to feel like I am accomplished, but I don't need like the number one. And I think some people are really driven by that. I think they will stop at nothing. So I just don't think of you like that, but I think you're also still a really driven, ambitious woman and you want these things. Like we all do.

• 1:20:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally.

• 1:20:57Rayna Greenberg?

  And I think of you as a star.

• 1:20:59Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:20:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Like you are like such a star in your own right. And you are able to like give other people their flowers and be a part of their success and be such a powerhouse in your own right. And you have to like, almost remind yourself, like all of these people wouldn't want to be around me if I wasn't so also impressive and amazing and incredible.

• 1:21:15Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:21:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you're like an OG too.

• 1:21:17Speaker 02

  It is a weird thing, like, cause like Stassi will be like, I got into podcast because of you. Hannah's like, you were the first person that I like learned about podcast.

• 1:21:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Radio show. And I was like, I want to be her.

• 1:21:27Speaker 02

  It's so crazy. It feels like that was like a different life back in serious.

• 1:21:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:31Rayna Greenberg?

  How long ago was that?

• 1:21:32Speaker 02

  My God.

• 1:21:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  2017. I did this thing with Bravo. They like sent me to do it. And Cheech set it up. It all comes back to Cheech.

• 1:21:39Speaker 02

  All roads lead back to Cheech.

• 1:21:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. But it's interesting.

• 1:21:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  When you do see people who are real pioneers in this, in a, in a space, and then it feels like they get surpassed.

• 1:21:52Speaker 02

  That's totally, I always say, I'm like, what am I doing wrong? Everybody is like flying by me. You guys, truthfully, Stassi, no, no, no, no, no, I'm serious though. It's like, I'm proud that I've been in this business for so long. It's, it's gonna be 20 years, March of 2026. I'll have been in this industry for 20 years. And it's like, I'm proud of that, but then I'm also like, God, should I be embarrassed? Should I be like further along? Do you know what I mean? And then I think about Jennifer Coolidge and I'm like, that's my, that's my trajectory. But it definitely.

• 1:22:22Rayna Greenberg?

  We're playing the long game.

• 1:22:23Speaker 02

  I, I guess.

• 1:22:24Rayna Greenberg?

  No, but you also operated in, from, coming from a place of fear for 15 years of your career.

• 1:22:30Speaker 02

  I will.

• 1:22:31Rayna Greenberg?

  And it's only until the last few years that you're like, okay, I'm not scared of doing X, Y, and Z.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  I think being at Sirius gave me a great platform, but it held me back for a long time. I mean, they fired me, so it's not like I chose to leave, but it was the best thing that they could have ever done because it forced me to go out on my own.

• 1:22:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:45Speaker 02

  So I guess if you take the 12 years that I was at Sirius, I've been in this business for eight years as like a solo entity.

• 1:22:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 1:22:51Speaker 02

  So, fine, fine, fine, eight years. I like that better.

• 1:22:56Rayna Greenberg?

  You're new. You're green.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  I'm a baby. I'm just a little baby. I'm an infant.

• 1:23:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, but I guess to my point, like, I think people who are real OGs in any industry like always command respect. And I just think of you like that and you've had longevity.

• 1:23:11Speaker 02

  Thank you. See, it's, it's, it's all perspective, right?

• 1:23:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know the backstories of all these people that you're friends with, but like, you have a 10-year-long relationship. You have all these friendships. I mean, to Ashley's point, like, there are other things that you have done with your life and gotten that other people could never even imagine doing such a thing. I mean, to go to your podcast release party, really, and to see the room of people that showed up for you. I mean, people would die to have those type of genuine love and connections in a room, people showing up for them. None of those people needed to come. Those are all really successful people and everyone wanted to, wanted to show up and show out for you.

• 1:23:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 1:23:46Speaker 02

  Nice guys.

• 1:23:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  But then even seeing the parties you guys host at your house, like, you guys are just real people. Like, we say this all the time, you meet so many. Fake people in this industry and you guys are like real ones. You live a real life. You're friends with real people who aren't famous too.

• 1:24:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 1:24:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, it's even seen like every single time you guys have a party, we are invited and like we didn't, we haven't been able to come. And I'm just like watching like, I just want to be there like doing karaoke or whatever the fuck you guys are doing. Yeah.

• 1:24:13Speaker 02

  Oh my God, until like four o'clock in the morning.

• 1:24:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're so loved.

• 1:24:15Speaker 03

  We are rich in friend, in friendships.

• 1:24:18Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, we are.

• 1:24:20Speaker 03

  Famous, not famous.

• 1:24:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, both. Yeah.

• 1:24:22Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:24:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:23Speaker 02

  But oh my God, this is like so much fun. Kate, I hope you're listening now.

• 1:24:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hold on, who was at the party that we were like, oh my God?

• 1:24:30Speaker 02

  Annadelle.

• 1:24:31Speaker 03

  Annadelle.

• 1:24:34Speaker 02

  Insane. That's through Kelly.

• 1:24:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've had so much FOMO when you guys have these parties.

• 1:24:38Speaker 02

  Oh, you guys, you have to come. Once, once little girl's here, we'll get back on the party train.

• 1:24:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I'm talking, when we talk about moving back, I talk about moving into your neighborhood. I want to talk more about it.

• 1:24:47Speaker 03

  We have quarterly parties.

• 1:24:48Rayna Greenberg?

  No, can you just like sending her listings of stuff?

• 1:24:51Speaker 02

  Yes, literally.

• 1:24:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause I'm gonna be back there. So Ashley's just gotta come.

• 1:24:56Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 1:24:57Speaker 03

  I have like a husband, he has a job.

• 1:24:58Rayna Greenberg?

  He wants to come too. Him and I are moving back.

• 1:25:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, we'll work on him.

• 1:25:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, we love you guys so much. We actually have to wrap because the Eagles game starts in a few minutes.

• 1:25:08Speaker 02

  And we gotta go.

• 1:25:08Rayna Greenberg?

  And then you guys are sleeping over my house. We want to be closer to your hair salon in the morning.

• 1:25:14Speaker 02

  The traffic is no joke.

• 1:25:15Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, what's an hour in the morning?

• 1:25:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I get it.

• 1:25:17Speaker 03

  Right?

• 1:25:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love that you guys are sleeping over. Should we just sleep over?

• 1:25:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, please. Also, if you guys want my king size bed, you can have it also.

• 1:25:23Speaker 02

  Oh my God, you work so sweet. Absolutely not.

• 1:25:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. No way. No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:25:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's fine.

• 1:25:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Taylor's gonna be in that bed.

• 1:25:31Speaker 03

  No, I might, I might sleep in the bed.

• 1:25:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  You guys should take her room. It's really stunning.

• 1:25:35Speaker 02

  No, well, I would be so mad if somebody came to take me.

• 1:25:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just take the room.

• 1:25:39Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:25:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Four of me could fit in my bed. And there's three of you.

• 1:25:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, also it's like a hotel room. Just take it.

• 1:25:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll show you. Listen, you'll stay.

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  Okay. Can we watch Blue Crush together?

• 1:25:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know what's very funny is there's like naked pictures of Reyna in her, all around her house, but in your bedroom.

• 1:25:53Rayna Greenberg?

  That's where they are in my bedroom.

• 1:25:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Shoshank was up there one day and he was like, where can I look?

• 1:25:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Reyna's naked over here. He was literally sitting on the couch.

• 1:26:01Speaker 03

  Just staring at the floor.

• 1:26:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Where am I allowed to look?

• 1:26:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Tasteful nudity.

• 1:26:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tasteful.

• 1:26:08Rayna Greenberg?

  But you know, it's my nipples. All right. Well, we have to go watch the Eagles game.

• 1:26:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Where can everybody find you guys, listen to your show?

• 1:26:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Look at Taylor Donahue's Instagram.

• 1:26:18Speaker 02

  Okay, so.

• 1:26:19Speaker 03

  Check out my carousel.

• 1:26:20Speaker 02

  Most importantly, listen to the podcast Taste of Taylor. Every Monday, you can listen to it wherever you listen to podcasts. And then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday is on patreon.com/tasteoftaylor. And it's commercial free, just saying.

• 1:26:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love that.

• 1:26:33Speaker 02

  And then follow my lovely wife at Taylor Donahue on Instagram. Do you want to see all the best pictures and videos? Because she always.

• 1:26:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  First.

• 1:26:41Speaker 02

  And then you can follow me at Taylor Schrecker.

• 1:26:43Speaker 03

  See all my reposted videos.

• 1:26:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  And your links. And you guys can find us at girlsgottaeat.com. Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I'm Ash Hess, Reina is reina.greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube, share this episode with a friend, and we will see you Thursday.

• 1:26:59Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:27:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.