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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:45Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:51Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 1:00Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:03Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, oh, you got home, you're, you're calling the FBI.

• 1:08Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. Even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 1:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:25Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:38Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social, like I love everyone, but like.

• 1:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:42Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising and you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing, it's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:03Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:08Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a T-shirt for real.

• 2:13Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 2:23Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:26Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:28Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 2:41Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:42Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you. This episode is sponsored by cars.com. I feel like your car says a lot about you. It's transportation, storage, and honestly, kind of a personality test. Maybe you need something for weekend road trips, something you can actually parallel park in the city, or just enough trunk space for an emergency outfit and backup shoes. Personally, I like options and I'm very specific. So this is where cars.com comes in. Cars.com has the tools that make your car shopping way less overwhelming. With more than 200 advanced search filters, you can narrow things down based on what actually matters to you. Deal badges help show how fairly a vehicle is priced, so you can browse with more confidence and fewer chaotic tabs open, which I think we can all appreciate.

• 3:28Hannah Berner?

  Start your search with cars.com. Where to next?

• 3:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:47Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my Go-Gurt gigglers? This is not sponsored, just something that I enjoy.

• 3:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know if they're even still a company.

• 3:54Hannah Berner?

  I don't know, but they shaped my childhood and how I view the world.

• 3:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Really? Because I hated Go-Gurt.

• 4:00Hannah Berner?

  They're not page-coded.

• 4:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I didn't like yogurt at that young age. I was like, gross, have ice cream like a fucking normal person.

• 4:09Hannah Berner?

  See, I feel like I was like going to a softball game and I was like, Mom, give me my Go-Gurt!

• 4:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it was marketed as like kids who skateboarded.

• 4:17Hannah Berner?

  Kids on the go.

• 4:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and I was like, I'm not on the, I'm not on the go, I'm a child.

• 4:23Hannah Berner?

  No, we were on the go and I love snacks. Um, okay, we have so much to address. Actually, before we get into the devil we're proud of at all. I just have to say I was doing research this morning.

• 4:34Paige DeSorbo?

  On? Is this the worst we've both ever looked?

• 4:39Hannah Berner?

  Okay, well, we were supposed to record at ten, which it is nine fifty-five right now. And Paige texted me at like nine thirty-five, like, hey, can we do it now? And I'd been up researching, so I was like, okay.

• 4:50Paige DeSorbo?

  What have you been researching at this hour?

• 4:52Hannah Berner?

  Well, set my alarm for nine, because I like to be up an hour before. And fun thing about me, I do have to set my alarm for nine, or I will sleep. I will sleep. Not to brag, but they announced the new cast of Mormons in California.

• 5:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:09Hannah Berner?

  Bobby Althoff is on it.

• 5:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Which I didn't know she was Mormon. I had no idea.

• 5:14Hannah Berner?

  They're everywhere. You never know. You never, it's like a guy with a ponytail. You're like, it doesn't look like it, and then he turns and you go.

• 5:24Hannah Berner?

  Didn't see that for you. Didn't see that for you, but she was married quite young, so that makes sense. So, I mean, I think she's gonna be a star on it. But then I'm looking through and all of them have like insane names. And one of them's is, one of them's is McCall.

• 5:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Cool.

• 5:41Hannah Berner?

  That's a very specific name. And something goes off in my head, I said McCall. And I look at her face, because it's been a long time, and I realize that was one of the top tennis players in juniors. She was like a year older than me. But she has a different last name. And I'm like, good with faces, and obviously her name's McCall, so I'm like, so her name was McCall Jones. So I Google it, she played for UCLA. She's like, so good.

• 6:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Phenomenal name, McCall Jones?

• 6:08Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you would have, okay, you have to Google, so this is what I was doing. I Google McCall Jones tennis, and now there's all these old matches coming up from like fifteen, sixteen years ago. Against, with the names of girls that I've like forgotten, because it's like twenty years ago. Their outfits were so sick. When you were one of the top tennis girlies, you walked in, you had your sponsor, you're wearing your outfit, you have your name, you have the way you wear your hair. Like, you actually would love McCall Jones. She was.

• 6:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I love her already.

• 6:36Hannah Berner?

  Bleach blonde hair. Cute little grunt, babble at racket, and I was like, who is this little, like?

• 6:45Hannah Berner?

  And she's beating the hell out of everyone. So then I was just like in a tennis wormhole all morning, and then you texted me and I had to get.

• 6:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I wonder if Nicole is like a family name, like if it's like her mom's like maiden name or something.

• 7:00Hannah Berner?

  Great question, but then the crazy thing is, she's Macy's sister. Cause they all have different last names and they're all blondes, so you don't know.

• 7:08Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I saw the picture of the cast and I was like, oh, that looks like the other girl on Mormon wives.

• 7:16Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, they're gorgeous. And so Macy was younger than me, so I actually didn't know her, but she played for BYU. Um, so anyway, the tennis girls are coming through, shout out.

• 7:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, actually that makes me really depressed that Macy's younger than us.

• 7:32Hannah Berner?

  Babe, most, most people are.

• 7:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know.

• 7:36Hannah Berner?

  But not emotionally.

• 7:41Hannah Berner?

  Actually, I'm quite old.

• 7:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, somebody said, wait, this is actually diabolical. I was with like a couple of my girlfriends yesterday and

• 7:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, they all work for me.

• 7:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I hate them to be my friends.

• 8:01Hannah Berner?

  You're in that sad place where all your friends are your makeup artists.

• 8:07Hannah Berner?

  This is when the documentary happens and you're like in the car, just like, who's there for me? Who's really there for me?

• 8:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And somebody said, we were talking about like a famous singer and someone, and I was like, oh, well, she's like forty. And the girl looked at me and she was like, no, she's not. And I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like, that was so mean of me. Like, I just

• 8:31Hannah Berner?

  Talking about Katy Perry?

• 8:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but I was like, it was, I just felt so bad, but I was shook that this woman was younger than me. It's like really scary when you, when you realize you're, like in my head, I'm twenty six, like twenty six, twenty seven, twenty

• 8:48Hannah Berner?

  I'm twenty seven, yeah.

• 8:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I'm in those three years. So then when someone says like, oh, Paige is thirty three, I'm like, damn. Like, why would you say that?

• 8:58Hannah Berner?

  Wait, did, I think we talked about it, I think we had that meeting where we were like pitching our show. And we were like, two girls in their late twenties. And at one point, someone was like, who are these girls in their late twenties? And we were like, us. And they were like, but you're not in your late twenties. And I said, excuse me?

• 9:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, excuse me. We're gonna be like thirty five filming this show.

• 9:20Hannah Berner?

  Imagine we're both pregnant, being like, we're 22.

• 9:23Paige DeSorbo?

  A lot of actors play high school children.

• 9:27Hannah Berner?

  So yesterday I took a depression nap from three to six.

• 9:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Damn.

• 9:33Hannah Berner?

  And Dez like had to wake me up because we were going to dinner and I was like, cancel it, cancel it. And he's like, you have, it's middle of the day, you gotta get up.

• 9:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Aggressive.

• 9:42Hannah Berner?

  He wants me to like, live life.

• 9:43Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's so annoying. I hate when people are like, you should do like more living.

• 9:47Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, why are you at my house?

• 9:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Get out of my apartment.

• 9:51Hannah Berner?

  I was like, this is my bedroom, my safe space. So he, um, oh, so at night, obviously he's like ready to go to bed at like nine PM. And I'm like, okay, I'm up.

• 10:05Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, oh, you don't want to live anymore?

• 10:07Hannah Berner?

  You ever go into bed like so aware that you're never gonna fall asleep? So I get into bed and I'm like, what do we want to do for the next four hours? Because we're not going to sleep. I decided to download Mahjong.

• 10:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh no.

• 10:20Hannah Berner?

  Um, I don't know if I'm the greatest Mahjong player ever, or if it was just really easy levels, but, or if it's just a really easy game, but I was, I, I played like 400 games. I was up till 3 AM playing Mahjong. So I'm also an 85 year old Jewish woman on Long Island.

• 10:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you're truly like, you're needle pointing and playing Mahjong, like.

• 10:42Hannah Berner?

  It's all about range, babe.

• 10:44Paige DeSorbo?

  We've lost the plot.

• 10:45Hannah Berner?

  I think, fast forward, we're gonna be playing Mahjong in your apartment soon.

• 10:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I would actually love that. I would like.

• 10:50Hannah Berner?

  Because the pieces are pretty. You'd like the pieces.

• 10:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I was literally just gonna say that. Like, I feel like it's really aesthetic and I would love to have like, a tea set out with like finger sandwiches.

• 11:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 11:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And like a bouquet of flowers.

• 11:04Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. And like, but then like we're too competitive. So someone flips the table and you're like, I didn't get a photo yet.

• 11:11Hannah Berner?

  Before you flip the table, can you make sure I get the photo? Thank you.

• 11:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, I'm actually having like kind of a grandma like couple of days too, because me and Kitty have been like, Kitty's been super obsessed with me lately and there's nothing better than when your cat is like so down for you. Like, and it goes in waves. She's a girl. Like sometimes she's like, I want to be alone, like see you later. And then other times she's like up my ass.

• 11:37Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And recently we've been-

• 11:39Hannah Berner?

  It feels like having a toxic crush.

• 11:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, recently we've been sleeping like head to feet. So like she's-

• 11:48Paige DeSorbo?

  So like her feet are by my head and then like she stares at me while I like rub her until she like falls asleep. And she's so my daughter because she loves the bed. Like when I'm getting in the bed, she gets giddy like to jump up in it. Yeah, she's like- And like if any given moment, if I can't find her, she's in my bed.

• 12:10Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 12:11Paige DeSorbo?

  And she has a million beds around, but like she's like-

• 12:14Hannah Berner?

  You actually can't go anywhere in your apartment without a cat bed in the, within two feet.

• 12:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Because what if she gets tired?

• 12:20Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 12:20Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, and she's been like doing this thing where like we play with my hair and then like when you're like, I like, you know,

• 12:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And she like grabs it. Here's what I love about cats because dogs will play until they actually die. Like they don't know when to stop. It's like eating. Like they'll eat themselves to death. Like cats would be like, I'm full. Like what? When cats are done playing, they just like plop. She's like, that's enough.

• 12:48Hannah Berner?

  That's all.

• 12:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Like they're literally like, and we've, we've had our time. Like let's move on.

• 12:53Hannah Berner?

  But then they act like you should have known that they decided it was over.

• 12:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Why would you touch me? I'm like, sorry, I thought we were playing. She's like, no, we're done playing. Anyway.

• 13:03Hannah Berner?

  Shall we discuss the Devil Wears Prada? Can we start from the beginning?

• 13:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's start from the beginning, but wait, before we start, I just want to say, I can't wait to do this pod into like our eighties, because there's so many things that happen that like legally, we could just never say, or like the nuances would be lost, or like people would be like, you're bitter. And I'm like, no, it's just like, what happened? So I can't.

• 13:26Hannah Berner?

  In your eighties, people would be like, she's still talking about this? You're 84. Get over it.

• 13:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No, best believe I'm still gonna be beating the same horse at 65. Like, and I'll be like, and remember when he did this?

• 13:38Hannah Berner?

  If you have something good to talk about, talk about it.

• 13:40Paige DeSorbo?

  So we couldn't talk about it then, because we literally had NDAs. Like, we couldn't say that we cameoed in Devil Wears Prada now.

• 13:51Hannah Berner?

  So Hannah and Paige coded, this was the toenail day.

• 13:54Paige DeSorbo?

  This was the nail day that they were like, she can't go out there. She doesn't have any nail polish on. This is the Devil Wears Prada. I'm in glam. I had something before. I don't even know what I had before, but I come glam ready.

• 14:10Hannah Berner?

  You were late.

• 14:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, whoa.

• 14:13Hannah Berner?

  You weren't late. You, I came early because I need to get glam done there. And then my glam was a whole mess because they were like, your toes look like a Neanderthal.

• 14:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:22Hannah Berner?

  So you show up fully dressed.

• 14:24Paige DeSorbo?

  So I show up fully ready, walking from one trailer to the other. And one of the like producers is like, oh, there's paparazzi on the street. Like, just be aware. And I'm like, oh, okay, like, whatever, like, I didn't have my shoes, whatever. I looked a mess, but like, and so I'm walking to your trailer. So then when that picture gets posted, nobody knows that you're there, which is like, it was just so funny.

• 14:53Hannah Berner?

  You actually had this moment, it was so funny, because you look up from your phone, I'm dealing with Togate. Which, by the way, I knew that we're gonna have a quick cameo. And I thought I was wearing a closed-toe shoe. Everyone's freaking out. I'm in the trailer, everyone's freaking out. And you just look up and you go, "Did you get papped?" And I was like, "You mean like a pap smear?" "What?" And I'm like, "Sorry, I'm literally getting yelled at by like eight PAs right now. What are you talking about?" I've been in this trailer for like, since, for like two hours right now. And you're like, "Did you get papped?" And I said, "I don't think so. I might have missed it. I don't think so." And then the internet...

• 15:30Paige DeSorbo?

  A blaze.

• 15:32Hannah Berner?

  People are like, "Paige is starring in The Devil Wears Prada."

• 15:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally was, I was like, "Oh my god, I fucked myself. People think I'm actually gonna be speaking in this movie." They're gonna be like, "She acted like she had a role in the movie." I was asked to make a quick cameo and I did my job. Me and Hannah don't speak in the movie. We're at like a part, like a big party.

• 15:54Hannah Berner?

  But it was like a full day of filming.

• 15:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:57Hannah Berner?

  Well, I do have to say, shout out to Aileen. She's a writer who I'd met, like, before they started filming. They were like, "She wrote The Devil Wears Prada." And I was like, "I need to meet this girl. She's clearly like, she like defines generations." So we met and we just hit it off. She's so fucking cool and smart. And then fast forward, she was like, "Hey, you and Paige are gonna be in one of the like, party scenes." And I was like, "Are you fucking kidding me?" But it was so Paige and Hannah coded, because literally I was getting stopped, like, to the press, being like, "Are you excited for Paige? Are you excited for her like, first big acting gig?" And I was like, "I can't speak on that right now."

• 16:36Hannah Berner?

  And then I think you did like a full Barbara Walters interview at one point, where they were like, "Yeah."

• 16:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I went to CBS Morning Show to promote like, Daphne Launch. And Gayle King, who I'm like, obsessed with, because her pens always match her outfits, and I just think that's...

• 16:52Hannah Berner?

  And she always is taking meticulous notes.

• 16:54Paige DeSorbo?

  That is real journalism. If your pen matches your outfit, you're prepared.

• 16:59Hannah Berner?

  If your pen matches your belt.

• 17:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's a great journalist. And she, and so my publicist was like, "And don't ask Paige about The Devil Wears Prada, because she signed an NDA." And Gayle looked at him and was like, "I'm gonna do my job, and why don't you do yours?" And so we get on and she's like, "The Devil Wears Prada." Thank god I'm media trained. And it was just so funny that like...

• 17:21Paige DeSorbo?

  You were there.

• 17:21Hannah Berner?

  And I said, this is actually so fucking funny. And this is so me and Paige. And this is why I love our friendship. Because one day we're gonna be able to tell the story to the gigglers. Because also, it's not just that I like, didn't get papped. I was literally, they were literally dealing with my hangnail.

• 17:35Paige DeSorbo?

  They were amputating your toes. They were like, we can't, we can't have her represent us.

• 17:40Hannah Berner?

  You were like, were you outside getting papped? I was like, I'm in a dentist's office right now for my toe. So mind you, the shot is three seconds, like, from my neck up.

• 17:51Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's three seconds.

• 17:52Hannah Berner?

  Wait, to the point that my mom, I didn't tell you this happened. She literally goes, when are they gonna, when's your scene? I go, my scene was 30 minutes ago, mom. She missed it.

• 18:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. And I had such, I didn't actually even tell you this. I had such a full circle moment. First, I remember when The Devil Wears Prada came out. Um, I was in eighth grade and I was in New York City with my parents and we were on Canal Street. And they used to do, like, people used to go into movie theaters and film the movie. And it would be like the bootleg version of the movie.

• 18:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. And it was always moving a little.

• 18:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And it was always like moving a little and you could like hear someone's voice in the background. The picture was like never good. But the bootleg DVD was like on the street. They were selling it. And I looked at my dad and I was like, no, like you gotta get me this movie. And that was when like TVs were in like the headrests in like cars.

• 18:44Hannah Berner?

  Paige, you were aging yourself.

• 18:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever. And I watched it on the way home and I literally got done with the movie. And I was like, this just shaped my whole, it shaped my whole existence.

• 18:56Hannah Berner?

  You are so Emily.

• 18:58Paige DeSorbo?

  So Emily.

• 18:59Hannah Berner?

  Like, during the movie, I kept looking at you being like, you would, but Emily is actually the funniest one in the movie.

• 19:05Paige DeSorbo?

  She's very funny and she's very like, she's cold, but she's not like, like she doesn't want to be, but everyone thinks she is. So she just like goes with that persona. But she like actually doesn't want to be cold. But then, so when the movie was over.

• 19:21Hannah Berner?

  It got too personal.

• 19:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I got, I really hit home. Sorry, I'm trying to express myself. Then when I got in the car to like call my mom to like tell her how it was, I started crying. And she was like, oh my God, are you crying? And I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I'm like, sorry, I just feel like it's such a full circle moment. Because I would watch this movie and watch these girls like get ready for work and ha- and get in their apartments. And I would always be like, oh my God, one day my New York City apartment is gonna be so fucking good. And I just got so overwhelmed in that moment, like talking to my mom, I cried the whole way home.

• 20:01Hannah Berner?

  That was like me when I watched Toy Story three. No, no, it was so nostalgic and we'll speak about the movie, but cuz when we watched it, we were in high school, watching like a girl trying to be successful in New York City. So then watching it now where her job evolves and now we're like, not to say working women, it makes me sound like I'm in the nineteen fifties. Yeah, but like, we are career, now we're working women in the city and watching her. So you feel like you grew with her.

• 20:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:30Hannah Berner?

  One thing, I did like one interview when I got there, one interview, they got me.

• 20:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:36Hannah Berner?

  It's funny, I was watching the video of someone asking me a question and my brows are furrowed.

• 20:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm. Well, it was sunny.

• 20:45Hannah Berner?

  It was sunny. And then also, you know, when you can't hear someone, so you try to

• 20:48Paige DeSorbo?

  See them better.

• 20:49Hannah Berner?

  Squint your eyes so you can like see them better. So I actually, it was a crazy line. I couldn't, my brows were furrowed and then like I heard it and then I answered. And I was looking at some of the comments and they were like, why is her face like that, whatever? And I was like, oh, they haven't seen a girl being able to like move her eyebrows in an interview.

• 21:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, don't come.

• 21:09Hannah Berner?

  Not you, not you. But I was looking at like a lot of interviews, people's face don't move. Your eyebrows are moving.

• 21:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like moving.

• 21:17Hannah Berner?

  Like my eyebrows really move, like I could do The Rock.

• 21:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, let's get close and personal. If you're watching this on YouTube, we're getting close and personal. This is a perfect example of botox. So before I got botox, I never had this line.

• 21:29Hannah Berner?

  No, stop. No, stop it.

• 21:31Paige DeSorbo?

  So I don't know if when it fully goes away, if this will go away. Like I've never had this.

• 21:38Hannah Berner?

  It has, it has to go away.

• 21:40Paige DeSorbo?

  My chin is like finally coming back, like my, I watched like me talking from the side on something and I was like, oh, okay, good. Like my jaw is starting to move.

• 21:49Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway.

• 21:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, real talk. Have you ever had a thought pop into your head that feels so random and upsetting and then your brain will just not let it go? Like you try and move on, distract yourself, talk yourself out of it, maybe even Google it? And somehow it just keeps coming back? A lot of people don't realize that can actually be OCD. And OCD is much more than being neat or organized. It can look like intrusive thoughts, constant doubt, and feeling stuck in a loop trying to get relief. These thoughts can feel very real, which is what makes them so upsetting. It can attach itself to things you care about most: your relationships, your identity, your values, which is what makes it feel so scary and isolating. But it doesn't have to be that way, because OCD is highly treatable with the right kind of specialized therapy.

• 22:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's not regular talk therapy, which can actually make OCD worse. OCD needs ERP, or Exposure and Response Prevention, which is proven to be the most effective treatment. And that's where NOCD comes in. NOCD is the world's leading provider of OCD treatment, and their licensed therapists are specially trained in ERP therapy. They'll help you learn how to respond differently to intrusive thoughts so they hold less power over you. And they provide support between sessions when you need it the most, so you're never facing OCD alone. NOCD offers live face-to-face virtual therapy, and they're covered by insurance for over 138 million Americans. If this sounds familiar, go to nocd.com and book a free 15-minute call.

• 23:22Paige DeSorbo?

  That's N-O-C-D dot com.

• 23:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, autumn in New York is the season where we can finally start dressing again. Every single thing is an excuse to put on a look. Going to work? Outfit. Leading a meeting? Outfit. Getting drinks with your friends? Obviously outfit. And as we all know, every great outfit starts from the feet up. That is why I'm currently obsessed with alleys from Sam Edelman. They're a ballet flat, but a little something extra for fall. A contrasting velvet cap toe, I have them in this gorgeous azure blue, which is like a dusty muted blue that somehow goes with everything, even Daphne's eyes. They're so cute, and I'm already envisioning my next outfit: straight leg jeans. An oversized blazer and a little shoulder bag. Very, I just threw this on when we all know I absolutely did not.

• 24:08Paige DeSorbo?

  And Hannah is loving hers too. She has the Michaela, which is the Sam Edelman's take on a Mary Jane. And this season it comes in the chicest leopard. So gorge, so easy, and exactly the kind of shoe that makes an otherwise basic outfit look like you actually tried. And there's so much more coming from Sam Edelman this fall beyond these two. Like the new Teigan and Tallulah pumps, plus ready to wear handbags, fragrances, and even a new men's collection. So basically you can make sure both you and your man are looking good for date night because we're not doing all that getting dressed just to let him show up in a t-shirt. Head to samedelman.com and get 15% off with code giggly15. This episode is sponsored by the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel and Afegato.

• 24:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Lately, I've been realizing that luxury doesn't have to mean some huge splurge. Sometimes it's just taking a few minutes to yourself during a busy day. I have one of these moments, oh, I don't know, every day around 2 o'clock. Whether that's making a pick-me-up coffee, or maybe I just need to scroll for a little bit on the couch. That's why I'm actually so excited about the new Hershey's Salted Caramel and Afegato Creme Bars available now. I absolutely love a treat yourself moment in the middle of the day, and this is a classic Hershey's Milk Chocolate layered with a salted caramel or Afegato creme filling. So it feels a little elevated while still being your favorite Hershey's chocolate.

• 25:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Pick up the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel or Afegato wherever you shop for snacks and choose happiness with every bite. Can we talk about the difference between a home that's furnished and a home that's intentional? Because if you're still living with a mattress on the floor at 25, that's crazy. And Cozy is here to help. Bed frames, sofas, rugs, shelves, tables. Cozy has everything and it all comes in boxes directly to your door. Cozy furniture is modular, so the piece you buy for your current place can reconfigure to fit your next one. And you can always add as your space and taste evolves. You can swap covers when you want to change and they go right in the wash whenever you spill. Something if you have no clue where to start, they offer free one on one design consultations.

• 26:17Paige DeSorbo?

  So a real person can help you plan your space, no fees. So transform your living space today with Cozy. That's C O Z E Y dot com. Make yourself at home. If your anxiety, depression, or ADHD are more than just a rough patch, you might need more than just talk therapy or self help tools. Talkiatory connects you with real psychiatric care. So you can actually understand what's going on and get a treatment plan that works. Talkiatory is 100% online psychiatric practice that provides comprehensive evaluations, diagnoses, and ongoing medication management for conditions like ADHD, anxiety, depression, and much more. Unlike therapy only platforms, Talkiatory is psychiatry.

• 26:59Paige DeSorbo?

  You're seeing a medical provider who can diagnose mental health conditions and prescribe medication when it's appropriate. You can meet with a licensed psychiatrist who takes the time to understand what's going on, builds a personalized treatment plan, and supports you over time with consistent, evidence based care. And because you continue with the same provider, you're not starting over each time. Your treatment can evolve with you and you can actually make progress over time. Head to talkiatory.com/giggly to complete the short assessment and get matched with an in-network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. That's T A L K I A T R Y dot com slash giggly to get matched in minutes. Talkiatory.com/giggly.

• 27:39Hannah Berner?

  So we had also a different experience because as I told you, it was the day we recorded our last podcast. My mom had drugged me that morning.

• 27:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 27:49Hannah Berner?

  With a whole milk latte. I don't know what happened that whole day. My stomach was like I had diarrhea.

• 27:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Mind you, we're at Lincoln Center. We're at like the mecca of New York City. It's like the classiest. I actually had never been in there for like a performance.

• 28:07Hannah Berner?

  Gorgeous, gorgeous. I don't know if I've been there.

• 28:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And also I realized when I was sitting in the movie, I haven't been to the movie since 2020.

• 28:15Hannah Berner?

  I know you turned to me, you're like, what is this?

• 28:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I go, wait a minute. I just realized I haven't been to the movies in six years and that's disgusting. And I'm like mad at myself. And sorry to the ballet and opera and to Timothy Chalamet, but I don't go to the movies.

• 28:31Hannah Berner?

  Also, I hate when we go to events, we go separately and it's like chaos. So like, I knew you were coming. I felt like I was at a wedding and I like lost my mom or something. I don't know. I was like in a department store and I'm like, mom. And we see each other from across this like, they, by the way, when it comes to premieres, like this was one of the biggest, oh Kitty's walking.

• 28:54Hannah Berner?

  Kitty was like.

• 28:55Paige DeSorbo?

  You guys aren't funny.

• 28:58Hannah Berner?

  I just got shot by Kitty.

• 29:00Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she's obsessed with me.

• 29:02Hannah Berner?

  Drive by. So we saw each other and then immediately we were okay.

• 29:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Every time we see each other at anything, like I know you're going there. I'm texting you. I'm five minutes away. I'm two minutes away. When we see each other, it's as if we haven't seen each other since high school. It's like the weirdest thing. We go into this weird like, oh my God, I didn't know you were gonna be here. It's so bizarre. We do it every time.

• 29:25Hannah Berner?

  It's because we spend so much time alone. So I think when we spend time with other people, we have like our, we're like, oh, it's us with other people around. Who are we?

• 29:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. So finish what you did in, in Lincoln Center.

• 29:37Hannah Berner?

  My hair, um, I don't do updos, but my hairstylist was like, just let me, let me go for it. And I said, okay, fuck me up fam. And I looked in the mirror. I was like, I'm a Spice Girl. I'm obsessed with this. I'm obsessed.

• 29:52Paige DeSorbo?

  You were baby Spice.

• 29:54Hannah Berner?

  I was baby Spice. I was lov- I was loving it because it like kind of covered my ears enough that I didn't feel like I was like just ears all over the carpet. And it's high, like it's, it was high. So we sit down in the theater and Amelia de Moldenberg was like to the right. And I realized like, oh shit, like famous people are like sitting behind us. Um, and my hair is really high.

• 30:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And Hannah kept turning around. Nobody had sat directly behind her yet. And Hannah kept turning around to like that row being like, I'm really sorry that my hair is like this. Like, I, like, I hope you guys can see the movie. Like you were really worried about it.

• 30:29Hannah Berner?

  Well, I don't want to be that dick that everyone's like, I would have.

• 30:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Like who's wearing that hat?

• 30:32Hannah Berner?

  Fucking burner's hair was in front. I didn't consider this. And then I was like, oh, whoever sits behind me, like I feel bad. Um, but I'm like, whatever. I'll apologize whoever it is.

• 30:43Hannah Berner?

  Heidi fucking Klum sits behind me and I'm like, oh my god. And I've and immediately I'm like Heidi and she like doesn't make eye contact with me like she didn't see me. Like and I was so I tried to apologize at first she didn't see me and then I like turned away. I was like, we'll try that again, which is one of the most embarrassing things that could happen. And I like, I was like Heidi was the and then I finally turned. I was like Heidi, I just, it is so weird to just know someone's name and not introduce yourself, but I was just like Heidi, I just want to apologize for the hair. And she was like, oh my god, I don't care. You're good, whatever. So sweet, so nice. But then the whole time I was like trying to inch to the side, making sure that she could see it.

• 31:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I was wondering why you were doing that.

• 31:23Hannah Berner?

  Leaning towards my mom?

• 31:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, because I was like, oh, I have things I want to say to her, but I'm not going all the way over to Africa to say it. You were so far.

• 31:30Hannah Berner?

  We can't be whispering in front of Haley Klum. Haley Klum. Sorry. She's so fucking iconic and gorgeous. I'm obsessed with her. So, okay, this is the tea, which I like didn't even want to say, but I'm gonna say it.

• 31:45Hannah Berner?

  Once you put on your Spanx and they like put your dress a certain way, like you can't be going to the bathroom all the time. And I was having a stomach day. I was just holding in whatever was going on. And then finally we get to the cocktail bar and it was like really loud and there was like no one behind me and I was like, I need to fart. Like I need to let this out.

• 32:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Mind you, we're at the devil wears pro- we're at my relig- we're at my Super Bowl, my Christmas.

• 32:16Hannah Berner?

  If you don't fart, your tummy hurts.

• 32:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:19Hannah Berner?

  And I didn't, I just like, I just thought it was safe. Also, when you look gorgeous, no one thinks you farted and there were men there. So I was like, oh my god, men are gross.

• 32:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like actually I don't, I don't like take advantage of that enough. Like no one would ever think it was me.

• 32:36Hannah Berner?

  You would, no, it's not your brand.

• 32:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna start doing it.

• 32:39Hannah Berner?

  So I let one rip because it's, it was like a back, it was backed up. Like it was beyond backed up. I needed to let it go. And I was mid-conversation with someone.

• 32:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Who?

• 32:51Hannah Berner?

  I actually don't even, there was like a couple of people that I had no idea who they were. They were like Hannah, how you doing? I was like, oh, I was like just talking.

• 32:59Hannah Berner?

  Paige, I don't even want to say it aloud. It was wet.

• 33:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah sharted at the devil at Lincoln Center.

• 33:07Hannah Berner?

  I didn't shit myself. I sharted, which are two very different things. A shart is a mistake. It's when your body betrays you and I was sick that day. I was sick. My mom had drugged me and she was there. She knew what she did. But I, you know, in that moment, you're like, no, I didn't. I'm fine. But then you're walking around and you're like, something's bad going on.

• 33:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't.

• 33:25Hannah Berner?

  So I went to the bathroom. I had to like do damage control because I sharted on my Spanx. And then just walk back in like nothing happened. And then sit next to you and I was like, don't tell Paige. She's, this is like her night.

• 33:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I'm like so.

• 33:42Hannah Berner?

  Acting debut.

• 33:46Hannah Berner?

  It's Paige's night.

• 33:48Paige DeSorbo?

  When you leaned over and told me that, I literally thought you had like, you were playing a prank on me. Like you just want to see my reaction.

• 33:58Hannah Berner?

  Like I know.

• 34:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I was aghast.

• 34:01Hannah Berner?

  You were quite empathetic, actually. You were like, are you okay?

• 34:05Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, no.

• 34:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because there's nothing worse as a UTI girl. There's nothing worse being uncomfortable and having to sit somewhere and pay attention when something in your nether regions is happening. Like regardless of what it is, you're like, something in my undercarriage is not going right and I can't sit here.

• 34:29Hannah Berner?

  Big shart. It was just enough that you were like, that was an error.

• 34:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know that I've only ever done it once in my life? And it was the first time I ever smoked a cigarette.

• 34:45Hannah Berner?

  Did you get like a stomach ache from it?

• 34:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I think my body was just like, we've never had nicotine before.

• 34:52Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a little stomach ache and I was like, oh, I have to fart. And I was like, oh my God, I just shit my pants.

• 34:58Hannah Berner?

  It's actually the most uncomfortable feeling because you're like, did I just pee myself?

• 35:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, then like that, people do. Like drink a cup of coffee, smoke a cigarette to like take a shit in the morning. Like some people do that. So I think my body was just like, we've never experienced this before.

• 35:13Hannah Berner?

  And I have stomach aches all the time. Like I make her do stomach aches. But there's a thing about like before I go on stage, your body sometimes knows like you can't shit yourself. And it you, you, the adrenaline like makes you like not have to go to the bathroom. So that's kind of what I thought was happening when I was at the premiere. I'm like, oh, I'm good now. I'm good. I'm good. The second problem was my hair, which was incredible and I need to do it again. I had maybe four hundred and seventy two bobby pins. In my hair and like on hour three, my head started to like throb. I was like, I need to have a lobotomy.

• 35:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:48Hannah Berner?

  So like my head was hurting, my butthole was hurting. I need to get out of there.

• 35:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:53Hannah Berner?

  Which we did.

• 35:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I got it. It was actually really funny because before the movie was ending, I like, you know, the movie's about to end. And I start thinking like, we're never getting an Uber out of here. Everyone's rushing. The traffic's gonna be insane. Right when the credits start rolling, me and Hannah look at each other and Hannah's like, we gotta get out of here because. And I'm like, oh my God, that's what I was thinking. So we're like running, like we're like truly like. I look at Lucio and I'm like, stay behind.

• 36:24Hannah Berner?

  Lucio was taking photos of the screen and Paige was like, bye bitch.

• 36:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, stay behind. You're gonna get lost in the sauce.

• 36:29Hannah Berner?

  Cause yeah, we could have been stuck there forever.

• 36:31Paige DeSorbo?

  We get onto the escalator to like go down to leave. And we're like, oh my God, like we really like, we gotta get out of here. Get out of here. And your mom looks at us and she goes, guys, there's an after party. That I would assume the majority of people are going to. She basically was like, not you two losers, but we're gonna be fine. And we looked at each other and we were like. Well, yeah.

• 36:56Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know there was a cool after-party. I, I got home, showered, and then one of our agents, because you know agents loves partying.

• 37:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, mind you, my Uber came in one minute.

• 37:05Hannah Berner?

  One minute. One minute, right in the front, like in front of the premiere, they were waiting for me.

• 37:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Before I even got outside. He was like, I've been waiting.

• 37:12Hannah Berner?

  We're so New Yorkers to be like, we're never gonna get home. This is a mess. Also, because we don't do crowds, like I haven't been in a crowd like that. I was like, we're gonna get, like, stumbled over.

• 37:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:24Hannah Berner?

  But yeah, literally, my agent was like, hey, where are you? And I was like, I sent her a photo of me lying on the couch. And she was like, we're at the after-party with Anna Hathaway and Meryl Streep. Where are you? One thing about me, you'll never find me at after-party, because I come in 150. I'm kissing babies, I'm saying hi to everyone. I can't then run into these people again. I've already had my moment.

• 37:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the thing, because I've lived in New York City for so long, for me, nothing good has ever happened for me at an after-party. Not one time.

• 37:52Hannah Berner?

  Oh, no.

• 37:53Paige DeSorbo?

  A lot of bad things have happened to me, never anything good.

• 37:57Hannah Berner?

  But it's true, like, I like to, like, give people a small dose. And then you, you get your good little interaction, you leave. I can't.

• 38:05Paige DeSorbo?

  You keep them wanting more.

• 38:06Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 38:07Paige DeSorbo?

  You keep them guessing.

• 38:08Hannah Berner?

  Yes, be mysterious.

• 38:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you have anything more to say about this, or can we switch gears a little?

• 38:12Hannah Berner?

  Switch gears? I feel like, I was so happy. We've been wanting to joke about that for so long.

• 38:16Paige DeSorbo?

  For so long, almost like a year.

• 38:18Hannah Berner?

  Because every gig I did, people were like, was this the toenail gig? And I was like, no.

• 38:21Paige DeSorbo?

  People thought it was the birdie shoot. I was like, just wait.

• 38:24Hannah Berner?

  It was a birdie shoot, just wait.

• 38:25Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm like, picking out my stuff for the newsletter this week, and I'm like, oh, like, let me put the Khloe Kardashian perfume in there. Like, the girls are definitely gonna want it. So I Google it, and I'm like, hmm. That's like, not what my bottle looks like. That's like, so interesting, like, let me Google, like, because mine came in like a plastic bottle. I don't know if it's like a travel size. Then I'm like, looking for the bottle. I'm like, let me go like, look and see what the name of it is. Can't find it. I text my assistant, I'm like, any chance you've seen my Khloe Kardashian perfume? Like, I literally can't.

• 39:00Hannah Berner?

  Me and you have such different discussions with the people we work for. Have you seen my Khloe Kardashian perfume?

• 39:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's like, I actually haven't. And it's, I am notorious for throwing things in bags and taking them places and like.

• 39:15Hannah Berner?

  So you were robbed?

• 39:15Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm like, that's so weird. Like, I can't find it, whatever. So I'm like Googling, I'm like, I know it's in a plastic bottle. I'm just gonna Google Khloe Kardashian, plastic bottle perfume. Hannah, I've been spraying hair mist.

• 39:34Paige DeSorbo?

  All over my body.

• 39:37Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I had a thought where I was like, I feel like it actually doesn't last that long. But I'm also gonna say that because like, I'm not trying to be negative about it because I'm like, it does smell really good. But I do feel like I reapply a lot.

• 39:51Hannah Berner?

  So now we know why you get UTIs. We've solved, full circle. You're spraying Khloe Kardashian hairspray on your tuchus.

• 40:03Hannah Berner?

  I love how you were like, the best perfume.

• 40:08Hannah Berner?

  You know, every girl bought it.

• 40:11Paige DeSorbo?

  So a couple of gigglers DM me and they're like, hey babe, um.

• 40:15Hannah Berner?

  Girls are gonna start throwing three arms.

• 40:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You put a hair mist in, is that the perfume? Then they're sending me pictures of the bottle, because there are, she has two bottles. One's like purple and one's like clear. And I'm like, I don't think that's what mine looks like.

• 40:31Hannah Berner?

  I love, because you also were so like, you're like, I'm a connoisseur of scents. You're like, I'm a sommelier of scents in this world.

• 40:43Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god. That, yeah, that's like when you use.

• 40:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's missing. It's also still missing. I can't find it. I don't know if I put it in like, it's in some bag. I know it's in a bag somewhere. I just don't know which one.

• 40:56Hannah Berner?

  Or you could just order another, babe.

• 40:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I know, but I'm like, see, I don't lose things. So when I do lose something, I'm like, no, no.

• 41:03Hannah Berner?

  But that's also so girl of like, this is actually mist for your eyebrows.

• 41:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I'm like, what is the difference between a mist spray and a perfume? Like a hair mist.

• 41:16Hannah Berner?

  That is such a good question.

• 41:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause it's a hair mist scent. It's not like it's-

• 41:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's not doing anything.

• 41:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not doing anything for your hair. It's just like making it smell good, but I'm like, okay.

• 41:24Hannah Berner?

  Can one of the giggler engineers in STEM let us know what the difference between what's in hairspray versus hair scent?

• 41:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Like what's in a hair scent versus like a regular perfume?

• 41:35Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 41:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Like what ca- what makes them different categories?

• 41:38Hannah Berner?

  Maybe there's more chemicals in perfume. I don't fucking know. Cause don't people put perfume on their hair too sometimes?

• 41:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, when I'm doing it, I'm, I'm doing it all over anyway. So I'm like, okay, yeah, it's definitely getting a little bit in my hair.

• 41:51Hannah Berner?

  Maybe hair scent sprays are kind of just literally just perfume, but they like sell it.

• 41:55Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just marketed differently.

• 41:57Hannah Berner?

  Maybe. I don't know, but you definitely shouldn't be putting it in certain places like you've been doing.

• 42:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I'm not like putting it in up my vagina. Like, I'm not like-

• 42:05Hannah Berner?

  Well, you weirdly stopped having UTIs the second you lost it.

• 42:12Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what is funny? One of my girlfriends, like back in the day, used to work for a makeup brand. And so she would like always give me different tips. And one, I'll never forget, one of her tips was don't ever put perfume on your clothes, like to really get the scent, you have to put it on your skin. And she was like, and don't rub it. In, you know how people will like put it on their wrists and then rub it? She was like, no, that like does nothing. It's not like going in more. It's just like rubbing it off. And so every time when I get out of the shower, then I lotion, then I mist, then I like deodorant, and then I'm ready for clothes.

• 42:51Hannah Berner?

  I literally get out of the shower. I'm like, is that Desis towel or my towel?

• 42:56Hannah Berner?

  Or is that a bathroom rug? Fuck it. I don't know.

• 42:59Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we're so different in our, because I like to give myself a spa experience.

• 43:05Hannah Berner?

  At home.

• 43:06Paige DeSorbo?

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• 44:23Hannah Berner?

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• 47:50Hannah Berner?

  I forgot the one last Devil Wears Prada thing is I just wanted to address the finger guns. I've never thought about what my glam bot would be and I actually was like, okay, as a creative in this industry, like, how does this not cross your desk? Like, I never thought about it. So in that moment, I was like, what is like the corniest thing I can do? And then everyone was laughing because you like literally didn't acknowledge me doing it, which is just perfect.

• 48:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I like freeze during those things because I'm like, when someone's like look really cool and pretty, I'm like, no.

• 48:17Hannah Berner?

  Wait, hot take, you guys? It's not that fast. I thought it was gonna be crazy and then I found myself feeling like I was doing finger guns for an hour.

• 48:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know if that was like the real glam bot.

• 48:28Hannah Berner?

  I don't think that that was a little, yeah, that was like an off brand.

• 48:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't see the Devil Wears Prada having the off brand glam bot, but maybe it was.

• 48:37Hannah Berner?

  I don't know. It just, I thought it was gonna be fast and I was doing finger guns for too long.

• 48:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Can I say actually one more thing about the movie?

• 48:44Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 48:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it's so hard to do a sequel, especially because that first movie was so good and I really think, I really think they did a very good job of it being having nuances of like today's world, but still like calling back to the old movie and having this like nostalgia. And obviously like the clothes are so great and like it is, there's so many good, cute, funny jokes. At one point though, I felt really old because I'm watching the movie and I'm like, it's going so fast. Everything's going so fast.

• 49:21Hannah Berner?

  As someone who hasn't watched reality TV in five years, who's now seen some scenes like all over the internet. The editing is so crazy and fast. In reality TV, no one finishes a sentence. It's just like,

• 49:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 49:34Hannah Berner?

  And that, and it, and then it, and then it. People don't talk like that. These people are going on full rants and it's getting cut to one fuck you.

• 49:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, nothing is a actual complete start to finish conversation.

• 49:47Hannah Berner?

  Even some like Food Network shows, I'm like, why is it being cut so crazy? Like I'm having a migraine from it?

• 49:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I almost feel like it's because of TikTok. Like TikTok has 100% is the main reason that our attention span is going down.

• 50:03Paige DeSorbo?

  And so I really felt like things were like a little edited like TikTok where I was like, okay, that was a quick scene like.

• 50:08Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if it was because of I sharted and my hair was hurting, but I did at some point. I was like, this is a long movie.

• 50:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, Lincoln Center doesn't believe in butter on your popcorn, which is a personal choice that they've made.

• 50:21Hannah Berner?

  I was like, talk to the manager.

• 50:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's, and that's fine.

• 50:26Hannah Berner?

  It was fashion. That's like when you go somewhere in LA and there's, they don't offer bread.

• 50:30Paige DeSorbo?

  There was a moment where I was like, maybe Timothy Chalamet has a point. No one's coming to the ballet because you guys don't believe in salt and butter. Okay. I'm not just raw, like I can't raw dog this popcorn with no liquid.

• 50:43Hannah Berner?

  No, someone could die. If, if you raw dog popcorn without a little moisture from butter, it could get wedged.

• 50:49Paige DeSorbo?

  And there weren't snacks. Like you, I thought it was gonna be like a.

• 50:52Hannah Berner?

  Ordures.

• 50:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I thought like there was gonna, they were gonna have like a pop up like concession stand. One thing about me, and it might not, it might not align with my blade, my brand, but when I hear the words concession stand.

• 51:07Hannah Berner?

  I think of a zeppeli. Do you think of a zeppeli when you hear a concession stand?

• 51:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I think of fry, french fries and um.

• 51:16Hannah Berner?

  Hot dogs?

• 51:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Ketchup. And then I also think of, there used to be these lollipops that were like, that were like powdered. And there was a color on one top and a color on the bottom. And like when my brother played. Baseball, whatever, who knows what we were there for. I was in the concession stand.

• 51:35Hannah Berner?

  And you dip it in the, that was actually, I don't know what kind of sweets and methadone the kids are using these days. But we had, like, remember the ones that would pop in your mouth?

• 51:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Pop Rocks?

• 51:48Hannah Berner?

  Pop Rocks, like you'd literally be having a full, like Chernobyl in your mouth.

• 51:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 51:53Hannah Berner?

  And you were like, perfect, this is what I need right before my math class.

• 51:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, people also don't talk about the women that would run the concession stand. They ran a, a tight program. Yeah, like, they were the moms that, they do it all. They did the schedule on who was on the concession stand. They knew what team was playing where. And I was always just like very in awe of the women working the concession stands. Like, I respected them at a young age, I feel like. And then I was like, can I come in and sit there?

• 52:25Hannah Berner?

  See, we would play in Prospect Park where it literally was just hot dog stands. It was just like a guy. And he would just pull a hot dog out of some, I won't say water, because it probably wasn't water.

• 52:38Hannah Berner?

  Whatever was in it tastes so fucking good. And then I'd be like, Mom, can I have another? And she'd be like, no.

• 52:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, wow.

• 52:43Hannah Berner?

  She's like, honey, you don't need two hot dogs at 5pm. We haven't even had dinner yet. And I was like, Mom, you're such a bitch!

• 52:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I haven't had a hot dog in a minute.

• 52:51Hannah Berner?

  It's so good.

• 52:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so good. I actually might need to like get one today.

• 52:54Hannah Berner?

  I love when people are like, you know, it's really bad for you. And I'm like, so is your phone, so.

• 52:59Paige DeSorbo?

  No, at least, at least, maybe twice, at least once a year, I'm getting a hot dog on the street. Actually, the other day, I was like early for an appointment and I was like, you know what? I'm getting a goddamn pretzel. And I got a street pretzel and it was-

• 53:13Hannah Berner?

  Do you put mustard on it?

• 53:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I typically do, but I didn't in this moment because I was walking and I was like, I can't also, like, what am I?

• 53:22Hannah Berner?

  When you get the right bite with a chunk of salt and a little mustard. Wait, we're so annoyingly New York right now. My final endeavor was part of thought, because you're right, we didn't talk about the movie.

• 53:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 53:34Hannah Berner?

  I think everyone should see it. I think it totally did it justice. I actually was belly laughing. Meryl Streep is spectacular. Um, and I think it did it justice because it's so hard for a sequel to hold up. And I think it really did, so.

• 53:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Stanley Tucci is like amazing.

• 53:53Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, yeah.

• 53:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Emily Blunt's amazing.

• 53:55Hannah Berner?

  And Anne Hathaway's gorgeous.

• 53:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Gorgeous.

• 53:59Hannah Berner?

  You know, the first one, the rumor was that everyone was afraid to lend them clothes because Anna Wint- they were making fun of Anna Wintour and they were like, we're not trying to cross Anna Wintour.

• 54:10Paige DeSorbo?

  The woman that wrote the book, like, wrote the story of the devil wears Prada, like, the true story, was there. And Anna Wintour was also there. Did you hear the guy who was, like, presenting the movie? He was like-

• 54:24Hannah Berner?

  I didn't know what that joke was because you laughed at it.

• 54:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, because it was the girl that wrote it and then her and that, and he was like, they're obviously not sitting with each other.

• 54:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, it goes back to women being bosses, where it's like,

• 54:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 54:38Hannah Berner?

  Burner at the stake. God forbid a woman gets something done. God forbid someone's working not at a glacial pace.

• 54:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I totally agree with that, um.

• 54:48Hannah Berner?

  But the fact that Anna Wintour can laugh at herself is important, and I think the fashion was insane.

• 54:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I also do think there's, like, offices run by some women that are probably nightmarish. Like, honestly, when I interned in fashion PR, I was like, yeah, no fucking way am I doing this every day.

• 55:06Hannah Berner?

  The truth is, the, uh, the boss can make or break your job. We're personally terrified of Grace, and she's been actually creating kind of a toxic environment. Um, so she's editing this right now, so I just wanna let her know. Maybe she could be a little nicer.

• 55:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's funny because the other day me and Hannah were on a Zoom and they were like, and tell us a little bit about you guys.

• 55:29Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, you in the last Zoom? All I was doing was screenshotting her face because she was falling asleep. I was like, we can see, it's a video Zoom, and she has her hand on her cheek, like, as if she's awake. We play good cop, bad cop, because I asked, like, we're, I'm so into it, and they get all excited, and then they look at you, and you look like you'd rather be anywhere but there. And then you ask one question at the end that, like, makes no sense and throws them off.

• 55:56Hannah Berner?

  No, you asked a really good question, the last one. And then I was like, ooh.

• 55:59Paige DeSorbo?

  We do. We literally play good cop, bad cop. I've never realized that. You're like, I'm so excited and we could do this and we could do this. And then I come in and I'm like, but you know what I hate?

• 56:10Hannah Berner?

  We, we end every meeting where I go, thank, we could be talking to anyone and I go, thank you so much. It's such an honor that you guys took the time to speak to us. Um, and we're so excited to see where this goes. And then Paige goes, bye.

• 56:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you realize I've been doing your trick now? I came two minutes late.

• 56:28Hannah Berner?

  It's genius. I don't want to talk.

• 56:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No, Hannah, it's genius.

• 56:32Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because when there's a ton of people on the Zoom, eh, no one's there yet. You want to come in fashionably two minutes late.

• 56:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you want to seem unavailable.

• 56:41Hannah Berner?

  It's a power move. And come on in, in chaos. You don't come in peacefully. You have to look like you're like, you're like, there's so much going on.

• 56:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you're running the country. You're like.

• 56:52Hannah Berner?

  Um, I think it's time for a mental health moment. There's this TikTok by this man. I know it's a man, but he gave really good advice. His name's Justin Owens. And he said, staying after disrespect lowers your price.

• 57:11Hannah Berner?

  And I really like that because you know, you always try to explain to people like, I know you're forgiving and I know you're forgiving, but there's just, it feels wrong. And putting it like that is like, you can stay, but now they know that you're okay with a certain level of treatment.

• 57:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like they are not taking it as like, wow, she's really understanding.

• 57:31Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah, she's, she's so there for me.

• 57:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Such a good person. She's really supportive and she knows people make mistakes. I, yeah, I kind of, I feel like I have a no tolerance policy for that, like.

• 57:43Hannah Berner?

  There's a zero tolerance policy at this company. That's what you say to him.

• 57:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Zero, I run a strict program, honey. Like I.

• 57:50Hannah Berner?

  It's on a winter.

• 57:51Paige DeSorbo?

  This is bootcamp, babe. Like.

• 57:54Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's funny because people in the past, I've definitely had situations where my friends are like, yeah, like he told you he was going to show up and he didn't like, but is that, I feel like you're moving on too fast. And it's like, no, but that's like, his actions speak for everything. So it's like, yeah, I'm not marrying that man. I always in my head was like, is he marriage material or not? Like I treated, that's kind of how like men you would treat women where it's like, when he, they'd be like, yeah, she's not marriage material. That's how I treated men. Like there'd be hot dumb ones and, and ones who are whatever and I'd just be like, oh, you're out of that box.

• 58:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, being reliable is a really big trait. Like I think Dez is like so reliable.

• 58:39Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, that, that man.

• 58:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I feel like you could call him with anything and he'd be like, I actually already did it.

• 58:46Hannah Berner?

  My Scorpio king. Also Dez just got a little knee surgery, so everyone message him. Make sure you tell him, what should you tell him? Be like, I heard Hannah's taking care of you really, really well. I was gone this week at the Devil's Pride premiere, the day of his surgery.

• 59:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I feel like also like getting knee surgery is my dream because it's like, oh, you have to lay in bed. But I feel like that's his nightmare.

• 59:09Hannah Berner?

  No, because you know, he wants to be running around. And he's also one of those people that like likes doing stuff on his own. So he'll be like, do you need help? And he's like, I got it.

• 59:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, he's a little stubborn Scorpio.

• 59:19Hannah Berner?

  A little stubborn Scorpio. Um, lastly, I'm reading Lena Dunham's book.

• 59:26Paige DeSorbo?

  You are? Oh my god, I ordered strangers.

• 59:29Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, perfect. And I realized because I was talking to a group chat and I was like, guys, Lena Dunham's book's really good. And one of the girls, actually Ally, call her out by name, was like, are you reading on your book? And I was like, no, I actually mentioned it because I wanted to brag that I actually am reading the book. I read it on the plane. And then I realized, reading is just like marathons where like when you read a book, you have to tell everyone and like you can't help yourself.

• 59:52Paige DeSorbo?

  We're gonna get like stickers for our cars.

• 59:54Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like when you read a book, you have to, I read that, I read that, I read that. You have to be like, I ran thirty six point two miles.

• 1:00:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, is that what we've turned into?

• 1:00:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, we're marathon people. But I was on a plane and was just like, fuck it, I'm gonna start reading. And I read the entire flight for three hours. I read a hundred fifty pages and I haven't read in years.

• 1:00:13Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it, you want to know who did this to us? The fucking internet.

• 1:00:17Hannah Berner?

  Well, I hope you guys have a spectacular weekend. We love you so much. Thank you for giggling and we'll talk to you later. Bye.

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