They’re Not Wrong (They’re Just Cut Off From Truth) | What Expensive Things Cost

Haven’t you been wrong before? Haven’t you done stuff that in retrospect seems dumb or weird? Of course you have.📚 Books Mentioned: Great Gatsby: 100th Anniversary Deluxe EditionMeditations by Marcus Aurelius (Gregory Hays Translation)The Daily Stoic Journal: 366 Days of Writing and Reflection on The Art of Living by Ryan Holiday🎥 Watch the video episodes on The Daily Stoic YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos🎙️ Follow The Daily Stoic Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us: Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and Facebook 📢 Share | ⚙️ Manage Subscription

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• 0:00Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key Stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.

• 0:14Ryan Holiday?

  They're not wrong, they're just cut off from truth. They don't know, you understand that, right? They're not aware that they've fallen for a scam. They don't know that they've been taken down a rabbit hole. They don't realize that things are more complicated than they think, that there's more information that they haven't seen, that their perspective is being warped. In Meditations, Marcus Aurelius, no doubt exposed to the same ignorant and frustrating or strange people that exist today, tries to remind himself by quoting Plato that "against their will their souls are cut off from truth." This is why people do things that are unkind or stupid or against their self-interest,

• 0:56Ryan Holiday?

  because it doesn't seem that way to them. No, they're in the sway of a demagogue. They're limited by their education. They haven't had, as the famous opening line from The Great Gatsby reminds us, "all the advantages that you've had." By the way, there's a new 100-year anniversary edition I've been reading, and I love it. "This is not without its consequences to you or to society, but it doesn't change the fact that these people are victims, that they are not this way on purpose." And when you keep this in mind, Marcus Aurelius says, "it will make you more patient with other people." Besides, haven't you been wrong before? Haven't you done stuff that in retrospect seems dumb or weird? Of course you have, but you didn't think that at the time. And guess what else?

• 1:40Ryan Holiday?

  People were largely patient with you, and you were afforded a certain amount of grace or you wouldn't have gotten to where you are now. So let's extend that same patience and empathy to others. It is only fair.

• 2:04Ryan Holiday?

  What expensive things cost? From the cynics, the Stoics learned the powerful practice of focusing on the true worth of things, that the cost of an item isn't simply what it's sold for, but what it costs the owner to own. So much of our desire for material goods comes at the great price of both anxiety and the loss of our serenity. And even when gained, these things often leave us more anxious and less serene. So today, spend some time reflecting on what the things you buy actually cost you and see if they are really worth what you have been paying. And that's from today's entry in the Daily Stoic Journal, and we have some quotes from Seneca and Epictetus here.

• 2:48Ryan Holiday?

  "So concerning the things we pursue and for what we vigorously exert ourselves, we owe this consideration: either there is nothing useful in them, or most aren't useful. Some of them are superfluous, while others aren't worth that much. But we don't discern this and see them as free, when they cost us so dearly." That's Seneca's Moral Letters. Then we have Epictetus. "If a person gave your body away to some passerby, you'd be furious, yet you hand over your mind to anyone who comes along, so that they may abuse you, leaving it disturbed and troubled. Have you no shame?" Epictetus asks. And then we have Diogenes Laertus quoting Diogenes of Sinope, that's Diogenes the Cynic.

• 3:32Ryan Holiday?

  He says, "We sell things of great value for things of very little, and vice versa." You know, they say the best things in life are free, and that's not really true, but I would say that a lot of things are much more expensive than they appear, right? So we chase these things, we want these things, we want a fancy car, and then we're worried about making sure nothing happens to that fancy car. I remember a few years ago, I put new floors in my house, and on the one hand, I hated the old floors, and it made the house look better, and they were...

• 4:08Ryan Holiday?

  Easier to walk on and improve my life. But then we had kids and now all of a sudden there's this part of me that worries about the floors all the time. Right? I don't want them to get scratched. I don't want water to sit on them. And so this thing that costs me money, it was not cheap to put new floors in the house. Didn't just cost what it cost. It cost all the anxiety. It costs the arguments between me and my wife about who's to blame for this scratch on the floor from the couch. You know, it costs goodwill between me and my kid. Because I'm like, hey, why did you spill, you know, that that part of you that just blurts out, you know, trying to protect things? And the truth is, it really doesn't matter. And I remember I was talking to a therapist about some version of this.

• 4:53Ryan Holiday?

  And she said, just write it off, like write it off in your head. You spent the money. It's gone. You can't try to keep it all together. Right? You can't try to keep it pristine. It's like the people who buy a toy and then they want it in mint condition. I mean, this is not just a violation of the law of entropy. It's a violation of the law of happiness. You will not be happy if this is how you're spending all your time trying to keep everything in one place. Trying to keep them together. It's an illusion. It will not last. You cannot do it. You have to be able to let go. That's the old Zen saying that, you know, the cup is already broken. The cup is already broken. The Stoics knew that expensive things cost even more than their price tag.

• 5:37Ryan Holiday?

  That's why there's the great story of Epictetus. He has this lamp. It's stolen. And the next day he says, I'm gonna go get a cheaper lamp so I don't have to worry about it getting stolen ever again. And I don't have to be sad that it's missing ever again. So for the Stoics, remember the, it's not just what actually is valuable and isn't. You know, a lot of times we ascribe value to things that are superficial and meaningless and pointless. But also it's realizing that you are spending even more money than you think on things and you're spending. You're spending your happiness is really what you're spending on. So I want to leave you with that thought. It's not that you live in a pigsty. You don't care about anything. You should try to keep your things nice and not unnecessarily wear. Tear them down, but you also cannot resist entropy.

• 6:22Ryan Holiday?

  You cannot resist time. You cannot resist wear and tear. And if you do so, it comes at the expense. The most important thing, which is time, and the other most important thing, which is your happiness. And the other most important thing, which is the relationships, the people in your life. So you only have so much time to think or worry or spend time on things. Are you going to spend it trying to preserve your floors? You're not even going to live there forever. You're probably going to tear them out at some point anyway. No, focus on what matters.

• 6:53Ryan Holiday?

  Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to the Daily Stoic Podcast. I just wanted to say we so appreciate it. We love serving you. It's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple of years we've been doing it. It's an honor. Please spread the word. Tell people about it. And this isn't to sell anything. I just wanted to say thank you.