Martin Riese: Why Your “Healthy” Water Might Be Lying to You

Throwback Thursday (Originally aired: 8/18/25) Bunnie Xo sits down with Martin Riese, America’s first certified water sommelier, to unpack the myths, science, and politics behind what we drink. Bunnie shares her own viral “water debacle” and what she learned from testing different sources, while Martin breaks down the subtleties of water taste profiles, the role of TDS (Total Dissolved Solids), and the environmental toll of bottled water. Together, they clear the air on false claims about Mountain Valley’s arsenic levels and stress the need for transparency and fact-checking in the industry. Martin also calls out the dangers of multi-level marketing schemes, debunks the rumor that sparkling water causes cancer, and highlights how basic chemistry and proper filtration can make all the difference. He taste-tests Saratoga, Mountain Valley, and even a rare 2,000-year-old Australian water with 1,300 TDS, while critiquing Perrier’s lack of transparency. Along the way, he explains why RO systems and shower filters are worth the investment, and why America needs to improve its water infrastructure instead of relying solely on bottled brands. The conversation wraps with Martin previewing his upcoming app, Sourced, which will offer free, reliable water education, and a reminder to approach water debates with compassion, curiosity, and a commitment to the facts. Martin Riese: Website https://www.martin-riese.com/ Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:11Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 0:15Bunnie XO?

  Hello friends, welcome to another podcast. I am so excited today because as you guys know, if you guys follow my social media, you possibly saw my little mountain valley water debacle that went viral. And listen, I'm just a girl. I was sad. I wanted to test my water because somebody had said some things and you can never believe everything that you see online. Long story short, I tested the water, got some results that I didn't quite understand, but there's a man who has dedicated his life to teaching people about water and he's actually America's first water sommelier.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 0:55Bunnie XO?

  Mr. Martin Riese.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 0:57Bunnie XO?

  Did I say it right?

• 0:58Speaker 01

  Perfect.

• 0:59Bunnie XO?

  Okay, good.

• 0:59Speaker 01

  I was saying like because people always say it because I'm German, oh, you pronounce Porsche, not Porsche. So it's the same with my last name. It's not three's, it's Riese.

• 1:08Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 1:08Speaker 01

  It's exactly the same.

• 1:09Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I'm so happy you're here because I found you in my comments and I didn't even know who you were. Like I hadn't, you have never crossed my FYP. Like I've never even seen any of your content. And when it started going viral on TikTok, people were like, you need to ask Martin, talk to Martin, talk to Martin. And I'm like, who's Martin? So I went over there and looked and I was like, oh, he won't come on the podcast. I didn't think he would. And then you commented on my Instagram post and we kind of, we had a little back and forth.

• 1:34Speaker 01

  Yes, correct.

• 1:35Bunnie XO?

  And but at the same time, like I love to be educated. I never want to spread misinformation. And what were you just saying a minute ago? That as content creators?

• 1:44Speaker 01

  And this is like, first of all, thank you so much that I can be here. And I think it showcases even online, you did a video where, because you want the best for your followers, you want the best. I can see the passion you want to spread the best to your, to your followers.

• 2:01Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  And I saw that video because I've been tagged so many times and I almost had a heart attack. And I was like, oh, I think I need to say something. So in my very German, uh, undiplomatic way, I said like, what's up? I'm like, what's going on there in this video? And you said like, you should do some research. I say, I am the researcher.

• 2:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh shit. I was like, did we just become best friends?

• 2:27Speaker 01

  No, but I think what what we're learning both, I think, from this situation, even when you disagree sometimes online, that does not mean you need to don't like the person or something like this. And you you showcased it so beautifully to say, do you know what? I want to learn. Maybe there's something, I don't know, what I saw in my test were like that. And I totally understand because I will tell you why it's so confusing as well. Why these tests are so misleading to the people. So I totally get it. It's not your profession, your content creator, you're creating amazing, cool videos and fun videos. I'm a guy who just drinks water every day.

• 3:01Bunnie XO?

  I love it. And I can't wait to get into your, because I did a lot of research on you last night. And I'm like, just fascinated by your story. But I did want to just add to what you said. I am never, um, always right. I love to be taught stuff. I don't want to, I think when you stop learning, you stop living.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 3:21Bunnie XO?

  And I want to know, like, if I'm saying something wrong, correct me. I want, I want to take accountability for that. And obviously, what I did was not 100% right. And we'll get into that later. But let's talk a little bit more about your background, because I, first of all, I've never heard of a water sommelier. I've heard of wine sommeliers.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  I like wine too.

• 3:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but I've never heard of water. And as I started reading about like, your history and stuff like that, like, you have like, a real passion for water. And how did this come about? Like, even as a child?

• 3:55Speaker 01

  It started as a child. I was four or five years old and on vacation time with my parents. I was just fascinated about the different tap waters in Europe. So we were driving in the car. I was waiting until the car stopped. We had obviously bottled water in the car, but already had the taste. Why should I drink it again? So we were waiting until the car stopping and was running to the restroom. When my parents always thought, man, he really needs to go all the time. But I didn't go to the restroom. I just wanted to drink the tap water. And my mother looked at me like, what is wrong with our son? Like, why, what's going on there? Until I told them, no, I'm doing this because I like the taste of the water. And they looked at me like, the taste? It's not hydration for me. Saying no hydration is boring. I want to taste the water.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  And as a child, obviously, I had no clue why water could have different taste profiles.

• 4:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  I had no clue. And then, many years later, in two thousand and five, I worked in a beautiful Michelin star restaurant. So my background is hospitality. I worked in a Michelin star restaurant in Berlin. And a guest came to me and said, Martin, you have over thousand different wines on your wine menu, but you're just serving one brand of water. And he didn't like the taste of that particular brand. And he asked me, what else do you have? And I looked at him and I remind myself of my childhood. And I thought he's absolutely right. It's the restaurant business. Imagine you would go here in Nashville to a beautiful barbecue spot and they're just serving you one sausage. That's all what they're serving, nothing else.

• 5:26Bunnie XO?

  Or one barbecue sauce.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, they would be like, that's a weird concept for a barbecue joint.

• 5:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:31Speaker 01

  Or you're going to a sports bar and the only beer they have on tap is Coors Light.

• 5:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:35Speaker 01

  You'll be like, nothing wrong about Coors Light. I don't wanna like blame now Coors Light or something, but it would be weird. You just have one beer.

• 5:42Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  So why are we doing this with water? Water has taste due to minerality and water is our most healthy and most important beverage. Without it, we wouldn't be here. Nobody would sit here in this beautiful room right now and we wouldn't have access to clean and safe drinking water.

• 5:57Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  So I thought, wait a minute, I need to create a water menu. And I did this in two thousand and five and then the media started to pay attention of me. And they actually called me water sommelier. I didn't like the title at all in the beginning. But I thought, no, a sommelier is for wine. I'm more like a water expert. But when I told people I'm a water expert, they thought I'm working for the Department of Water and Power.

• 6:18Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  They couldn't make the connection that I create water menus. Talk about that you actually can pair even waters to your dishes.

• 6:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  We will go into this. And there's actually barbecue waters or sushi waters out there who pair in perfectly for your scenario and for your lifestyle.

• 6:34Bunnie XO?

  So it's like wine almost?

• 6:35Speaker 01

  It is like wine. It's exactly the same like wine, actually. And I thought, you know what, I'm running with water sommelier. It just makes it easier. Everybody understands what that means. And I've been actually certified as a water sommelier in 2010 by the German Water Trade Association for Mineral Waters. I wrote a book about water on the German market and then I came over here to the States in 2011 based on an O1 visa, the extraordinary ability visa. So for people who don't know, it's the hardest visa you can apply for.

• 7:03Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  So when you're an actor, you better win an Oscar and Emmy. That's your regulation for an O1.

• 7:09Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 7:09Speaker 01

  When you're a scientist, you better be a Nobel Prize winner. That means when you're a sports person, athletic person, the Olympic Games should be on your resume. That's what means O1. I'm the only person so far who gained an O1 for this country based on water.

• 7:25Bunnie XO?

  That's insane.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  I'm holding this O1 visa and now I became dual citizen last year in November. I'm very proud of that. So I'm even now American as well.

• 7:34Bunnie XO?

  I love that. And America welcomes you with open arms.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  I love this country.

• 7:38Bunnie XO?

  So I'm still hung up on the fact that as a child, you were so obsessed with drinking tap water. Where do you think that came from and what was it that made you so obsessed with it?

• 7:50Speaker 01

  I believe that if you wanna call it God or Buddha or Allah or whatever you wanna call it, but I believe that every person on this planet has a special gift. Some people can paint beautiful pictures. Some people can create beautiful music. Some people have very good taste, like a chef. You can create beautiful flavors that we have incredible good dishes. And somehow I ended up with a good palate as well, especially for water. But I have to say, I can taste a lot of other things as well. My nose is very sensitive. I can smell a lot. Water is sometimes not that fun, actually, that you can smell everything. Let's say it like that. It's tough, but I can taste a lot.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  And it's very interesting when I then concentrate on water, I stopped drinking hard liquor because it was too strong suddenly. When I really like went into the whole passion of water as like in my mid twenties. I cannot handle liquor anymore. I drink beer, I drink wine, but I don't drink any more hard liquor. It's too intense for me.

• 8:51Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 8:52Speaker 01

  So it's a gift what's what lucky me I I received and

• 8:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  And somehow I can actually talk about it. But it's another gift. You know, as well as a content creator, even when you when you have a gift, that doesn't mean you have the gift as well to show it to the world.

• 9:06Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  It's a different gift as well.

• 9:08Bunnie XO?

  No, but I I love the way that you present yourself to the world. And you are very captivating. So I mean, just when you

• 9:15Speaker 01

  My accent helps.

• 9:17Bunnie XO?

  I love that. Well, you sound like a supervillain. Like, I love it. Whenever I did not expect that voice, that accent to come out when I first clicked on one of your videos. And when you started talking, I was like, I love this man. Instantly, it was just like, okay, this is so cool.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  No, I really appreciate that.

• 9:31Bunnie XO?

  So so you grew up, you know, tasting water and just on this mission. And then you somehow got into the restaurant business, though.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, correct, because I liked I liked hospitality. My father was a sommelier as well for wine.

• 9:44Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  So the background is already there.

• 9:46Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 9:47Speaker 01

  He was trained and he was in the restaurant business, but then he left the restaurant business. So I never saw him actually working as a sommelier in a restaurant. I saw him working in a in a wine store as the sommelier to recommend all the different wines. So in my family, it was always about taste and food already. So that runs in the family. My my brother is a very, very good person who who loves to cook for himself. I'm not really a good cook. I'm more like, I like to wash dishes. I don't have any problems with that. My wife is very happy with me that I'm happy to wash the dishes.

• 10:18Bunnie XO?

  That's a good man, though.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  I think so, too.

• 10:20Bunnie XO?

  I'm I'm Happy wife, happy life.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  I totally agree with you.

• 10:24Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  That's the reason I have a long distance relationship with my wife. I barely see her.

• 10:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  She lives in Alaska. I live in Los Angeles.

• 10:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  She runs a beautiful resort hotel over there, the Alaska Resort in Gertwood, and she's a very smart cookie.

• 10:37Bunnie XO?

  I I believe it. I would think that you would need that that stimulation, that mental stimulation, yes.

• 10:43Speaker 01

  And she's very, she's a very strong woman. She used to be a professional swimmer. So she loves water as well in a different angle. And she was actually supposed to go to the Olympic Games in two thousand, but she went to become sick and she couldn't. And go, but she was on that level. So it's it's nice that we both have the connection somehow to water as well. I'm drinking it and she's swimming in it.

• 11:04Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  So this is nice.

• 11:05Bunnie XO?

  I love that. And just like you guys got to bond over water. Like water has been just a theme in your life. I wonder what you were in a past life. Wonder if you were like a dolphin or something.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  We'll see, huh?

• 11:14Bunnie XO?

  Like seriously, like or like a shark or a killer whale. You never know.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  I talked just with my wife when we're talking about like former life. I just talked to my wife because we're all getting old and we all have to make decisions like what you're gonna do at one point when you may be passing from this planet and you you need to set up what you want to do. So obviously when I gonna pass hopefully before my wife because I'm very selfish. I need my wife surrounding me. So I don't I don't want that my wife is going first. I no, no, no. So obviously she will get everything what what I have right now in my life. But then we thought, what are we gonna do when she's passing? Because we don't have children. And we don't want to have children. I'm I'm crazy enough what my wife always says, like, no, there's no like a mini me of Martin Riese that would be not fun. That's too much, too much energy.

• 11:59Bunnie XO?

  I think it would be adorable.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I would be a very good father, but I have a lot of energy, like my energy runs very, very high. Maybe because I drink so much water. I don't know what it is. So we decided we want to give then the rest of the money what we own to a good cause where we helping others to gain access to clean, safe drinking water because water is so important in both of our lives. And I think this is something what you should do then. It doesn't make sense to give it to friends or something or like I think like there's other people on this planet who actually needs it. Way worse than we maybe needed in Los Angeles.

• 12:31Bunnie XO?

  That's so beautiful.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  So it's important.

• 12:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, definitely. So take me on to you created water menus. What is a water menu? Because I've never heard of this before and I never even knew this was a profession.

• 12:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. So when you think about wine, let's let's think about wine first. And on a wine menu, you start maybe with sparkling wines. You have champagnes, you have sparkling wines, then you have the light Sauvignon Blancs and Rieslings, lighter white wines, and then you're going to Pinot Noirs, a little bit more stronger red wines, and then you're ending up maybe with a Bordeaux blend or Malo a Cabernet Sauvignon. So by wine, you have a whole spectrum of light wines and heavy wines. The heavies are the red wines, the light wines are the the the light Rieslings or Sauvignon Blancs. So by water. Think about like all waters in the ocean, like ninety-seven percent of the water currently what we have on this planet is in the ocean. We have around three hundred and fifty-six million trillion gallons of water on this planet. And we're not running out of water. A lot of people always think we're losing water. We don't.

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• 14:22Speaker 02

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• 14:25Speaker 03

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• 14:55Speaker 01

  This planet has the same amount of water since billions of years.

• 14:58Bunnie XO?

  Wow, that's

• 14:59Speaker 01

  What's very important to know, I think.

• 15:00Bunnie XO?

  That is very important because they tell you something different.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  Correct. The problem, what the media is saying all the time, we're running out of water. They don't mislead you, but they're not hundred percent correct and not hundred percent wrong. The problem is what we're facing due to the change of of the environment, what's happening right now, because it's getting warmer and warmer on this planet. And yes, it's not just here in America. It's, trust me, I've been from, I've been from Germany, we have the same issues over there. So it's not a political party problem, it is a world problem. It's very important to me. The thing is, in certain areas, it rains too much, and other areas, we barely have rain anymore. So the distribution of water is messed up now on this planet. That is the issue.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  And that's the reason we're saying now, we should save and conserve water in areas where we have not enough water.

• 15:50Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  So for example, Los Angeles, it barely rains. I think the last rain was in May. That's quite a while now.

• 15:56Bunnie XO?

  That's like Vegas, too.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  We don't have any forecast right now about rain, so maybe the next rain will hopefully in November or December. So we in Los Angeles need to understand how can we conserve water? And it starts with little things about you're brushing your teeth in the morning and stop the tap in that moment, and then you're starting the tap again. Or, what a lot of people don't even think about it, do you need AI for everything these days? No, because I don't need to Google everything by AI, because when you're using one question in AI, it takes around half liter of water, like this water here will be wasted by one question of AI. Because these data centers need water badly to chill the data centers down, and they're using fresh water for that.

• 16:41Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  So every question in Google, one water bottle.

• 16:45Bunnie XO?

  That means I gotta stop talking to chat every day.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:48Bunnie XO?

  Holy shit.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  It's really crazy. You can save water by that.

• 16:52Bunnie XO?

  You would never even think that AI and water would even be intertwined.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  In Great Britain right now, they put a warning up because they have a very severe drought now as well, and they said, the government said, can you please delete all your old emails? And people are like, huh? Old emails? To conserve water? Yeah, because, again, all this data, what is stored in the data hubs, where they all need the water, the less they have data, the less they're using water. So please get rid of your old emails, guys, to save water, actually, on this planet.

• 17:21Bunnie XO?

  That is mind blowing.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  You would never think, me, even me, like, I'm, I'm learning every day, what you already said. I'm learning every day something new. And what you said about fact checking as well, in a lot of my videos, I'm saying, please even fact check me. It's very important to me. Don't think because I'm Martin Rees, I'm the authority of water, does not mean I know everything. I'm learning every day and I want to learn, because without learning, there would be a terrible planet, I think. Like, when I'm done and I know everything.

• 17:48Bunnie XO?

  Teach me, I love it.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  That would be, for me, like, the, the most terrible thing ever.

• 17:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, when you stop learning, I feel like you stop living.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:57Bunnie XO?

  So, your passion for water and, and all things water is what led you to making these menus, but also writing books about this, you have one that you co-authored?

• 18:08Speaker 01

  It started, I realized, when I created the water menu, it was first about option, giving options to my guests about the most healthiest beverage on the planet. And by the way, a lot of people will be extremely surprised when I'm saying this now, because bottled water, everybody always says, "Oh, it's so bad for the environment." Bottled water has the smallest impact on the environment from all bottled beverages. Why is it? Because indirect water is the key word here. Because like a Saratoga, a Mountain Valley, a Aquapana, what you have there on the table, for example, or Sococan, incredible good water from Peru, by the way. I'm so proud that you have it there on the table, because it's really amazing. That's a fun water.

• 18:47Bunnie XO?

  I've never had it.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  No, it's really, it's nice. I saw this, like, wow, you have, you have Sococan, that's like, that's, for me, like, very special water. So, this water doesn't need to be produced, because they're literally just bottling Mother Nature's juice. That's all what that is. Whereas an orange juice needs to be produced, because the orange comes from a tree, the tree needs water to grow the orange. Then you need to harvest the orange, then you need to press the orange, then you maybe need to add something to it, what you want to add, or wine, or beer, whatever you want to produce, everything needs to be produced, and they're using water for this. So bottled water has the smallest impact on the environment.

• 19:25Bunnie XO?

  And you would think that because you're bottling the water... Or wouldn't that make it produce more because it has to fill what you guys take? Or it's just there's an endless supply?

• 19:33Speaker 01

  The thing is, it's an automatic water cycle. And here in America, the same in Europe, there are strict regulations. How much water are you actually allowed to pour from your spring sources? Yes, there are bad companies out there. Let's be honest. And I told you earlier, when I walked in here, and you said like, oh, this company likes you, that does not mean that every water company likes me, because I have some water companies who hate me.

• 19:53Bunnie XO?

  I can't wait to get into that.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  Because like, it's just like, I'm just putting facts on my page, and not every water company is happy about it.

• 19:59Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  But I'm sorry, when you, when you mess up in your business, I just call it out.

• 20:05Bunnie XO?

  Well, what's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong.

• 20:06Speaker 01

  Sorry, there's no, there's no gray zone for me.

• 20:09Bunnie XO?

  But the fact that you told me that there's so much drama in the water world, I'm like, I'm sad. I can't wait to hear about it.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  The water business is a messed up industry, in my opinion.

• 20:17Bunnie XO?

  Why do you think that is?

• 20:19Speaker 01

  It's, it starts especially in America, because a person asked me today on my Instagram account. So Martin, I'm in Great Britain, and you always talk about purified water. And you have it there, you have a smart water there, I see a core water over there, you have Dasani. So this is nothing else than tap water. This is filtered tap, or smart water is boiled up tap. That's all what that is. Boiled up tap water, they're collecting the steam, adding back some electrolytes, the fancy word for minerals or salts.

• 20:48Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  That's all the same, guys. So don't be afraid when Dasani says we're adding salt, and Smart Water says we're adding electrolytes, it's exactly the same, what they're doing. It's the same. So this marketing is very messy in America. So the companies came up with once the idea, wait a minute, it's so much cheaper to just open the tap in the factory versus finding a spring source, making sure the spring source is actually okay to use, because not every spring source is healthy, not every spring source is actually okay to drink from. So it's just easier for them to open their tap water, filter everything out, highly processing it, adding back some minerals in very small amounts, and calling it electrolyte infused water.

• 21:32Speaker 01

  With a high pH of eight point five or nine point five, and you as a consumer say, that sounds great, it's pure water, this is healthy, adding electrolytes, and then the pH is so important, or the pH is just a marketing gimmick? It's literally a marketing gimmick to convince Americans to buy tap water in a plastic container for three dollars per pop.

• 21:52Bunnie XO?

  How is that legal?

• 21:54Speaker 01

  It's marketing. It's all marketing. There's nothing wrong about it. I think it's wrong. But hey, like whatever floats your boat, what I'm always saying, but that's the reason I'm saying on my socials, what actually the water is. And not every water company is happy that I'm actually saying what they are. When I'm saying, sorry, but smart water is nothing else than highly processed boiled up tap water. That's what that is.

• 22:17Bunnie XO?

  It tastes like porta potty.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  I'm sorry, that water is, and it barely has any electrolytes dissolved, barely anything.

• 22:23Bunnie XO?

  You can taste the difference in every water that you drink. Like there's, it's, it's amazing and I can't wait to get into that with you also.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  And I will explain this wise, because we came from the wine angle. And you all know that, for example, a Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand tastes totally different than a Sauvignon Blanc from Napa Valley. How is that possible when it's the same grape, but it's, it tastes differently? So it is, has something to do with terra. It's a French term. What we're using in the wine industry for showcasing where the soil, the mother nature is. So that wine pulls minerality from mother nature. So they have different stone layers in the Loire Valley, for example, in Chablis versus here in California. We all know this, different stone layers, different minerality.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  So the grapes are growing on these different minerality, therefore the wine tastes differently. By water, because I said ninety seven percent of the waters in the ocean, clouds are created, they're coming over, let's say to Nashville right now. Uh, rain is coming down very badly today, actually, what is nice to see, but everybody else didn't thought, because it took me an hour to get over here and everybody was freaking out on the freeway because it was raining. It was kind of funny. Um, comes down and the minute this water, this is almost now distilled water by mother nature. Not a hundred percent because there's still minerals in it, but almost distilled water. Now water is universal solvent. There is no other liquid on this planet who has more dissolving power than water. Think about this, fascinating. So the water comes down on the rocks and now it passes through different stone layers

• 23:57Speaker 01

  and it will leak out minerality. And these minerals, you can actually taste later on. So this is like cooking a soup without salt is tasteless. Adding a little salt, suddenly all other flavors will appear. And that is what Mother Nature does for us. So therefore, a Saratoga tastes totally different than a mountain valley springs. Different sources, different spring sources. You can measure it by TDS. You did it.

• 24:23Bunnie XO?

  Yes. Let's explain what TDS is really quick for everybody at home.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  TDS stands for total soft solids. And you were actually right, because you said once to me, but Martin, it's not just about healthy minerals, it could be other thing. And you're absolutely right. TDS doesn't stand for total soft healthy minerals, but it doesn't stand for total soft poison either.

• 24:42Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 24:43Speaker 01

  So the tricky part about TDS is in this country, and this is where the confusion starts again. But I even understand why everybody is so confused, because there's two big agencies who's controlling the water industry in America. The EPA versus the FDA. So the EPA controls tap water in America. And they're actually saying, you should not consume water higher than 500 TDS. Why they're saying this? Because the Department of Water and Power, let's imagine, they're pushing out 200 TDS here in Nashville. I don't know the number 100% correctly, I didn't look it up, I just, as an example, I'm using this right now. Let's say they're pushing 200 TDS into the pipes. Here at your beautiful house, we're ending up with 600.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  Something happened, obviously, between the Department of Water and Power in your house, that means cross-contamination. That could be maybe let now, or stuff we don't want to have in our water. The TDS meter will not tell you what it actually is. It will just tell you that there is something in it, in water. A TDS meter is actually nothing else. When you look at it, there's two little diodes in the bottom, and it looks how fast electricity goes from one point to another. And the more electrolytes are dissolved in the water, or substances with metals, the faster will go this idea from one till two. And therefore, the TDS meter will just tell you the kind of like the conductivity of a water. That's all what that is.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  And the number what even my TDS meter shows you on yours, they're not even, they're not even close what's actually is. That's the issue, what is kind of sad, there isn't a really good water tasting kits what you can use at home.

• 26:18Bunnie XO?

  That was my next question.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  It just doesn't exist.

• 26:20Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 26:20Speaker 01

  It doesn't exist. It's too complex. The topic water, we all think it's so simple, it's not.

• 26:26Bunnie XO?

  So now I feel bad because I'm at home testing these waters thinking like these strips are legit and is that just another scam?

• 26:33Speaker 01

  I just, I just looked at the strips as well on Amazon because you said you ordered them on Amazon. I looked it up. Like I Googled a little bit. I made some research as well because I'm always think as a content creator, you do research first and then you're going out. Whereas an influencer is a person who actually kind of like is an actor for a commercial. He doesn't know what, what they're talking about and they just, oh, make, make an announcement for this and this brand and you're just doing it.

• 26:56Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  But actually have no clue what that is. Whereas a content creator tries to understands first the topic and then talks about it. So the TDS meter, the problem is with the stripes as well. They're accurate between twenty nine and sixty five percent. That means nothing. Twenty nine percent accuracy, that's nothing. It's all about just making money. And I think like, again, like a TDS meter is kind of fun to use it sometimes in your water to get like an idea.

• 27:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  What maybe the TDS is, but again, it doesn't mean it's good or bad now.

• 27:26Bunnie XO?

  That's the one that I used right there. So this is.

• 27:28Speaker 01

  And mine looks exactly the same. It looks almost the same, except mine is not fancy what has uh green, yellow and red.

• 27:36Bunnie XO?

  Amazon.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  Now, and that is the problem with this thing now because it says red in, in your, and here it says as well five hundred TDS, so bad. That's for EPA tap water.

• 27:46Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  That has nothing to do of the water safe or not.

• 27:50Bunnie XO?

  So when I did that test and the Kroger water came out to be the best water as compared to mountain valley water, that was completely inaccurate.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  It was not inaccurate. It has super low because it's nothing else than purified tap water.

• 28:01Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  It's filtered tap.

• 28:03Bunnie XO?

  So there's no minerals.

• 28:04Speaker 01

  There's no minerals anymore. Therefore the TDS will be two or three or four and we can do the test. With the Kruger water, we're putting this in with a TDS of two, then I will add literally just sea salt and that thing will go in red.

• 28:16Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  That doesn't mean the water is now unsafe to drink. No, it's just water with electrolytes. We create an energy drink.

• 28:22Bunnie XO?

  How do you know if you're drinking minerals or if you're drinking cross contamination though?

• 28:26Speaker 01

  Here we go. And that's the reason why there's an FDA and an EPA, because this is EPA stuff.

• 28:31Bunnie XO?

  I have a, I kinda have some beef with the FDA though. I feel like they.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  I get it.

• 28:36Bunnie XO?

  Are not.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm.

• 28:38Bunnie XO?

  For the people.

• 28:39Speaker 01

  I'm very, I'm, I'm actually. Yeah, but not everything is bad, what I'm always saying. We always need to look like what makes sense, what doesn't make sense. And that's the reason I'm always saying as well. Especially right now in these times where we are with a, with the rise of AI and you have no clue what is fake and what is not fake anymore. Please do your research. Think about it. What makes sense, what doesn't make sense for your, for yourself first and then think. Maybe they are onto something or maybe this is just lying. So with the FDA, for example, I'm very upset with them because this stupid nutrition label on bottled water doesn't make sense at all. Like there is no fat, there is no sugar in water. Like why you even have a nutrition label on the, on the water? So what we're doing in Europe, uh, we have a similar agency. Obviously it's called not FDA, but it's called differently over there.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  But they are requiring that every bottled water has to put the TDS on the water, on the bottle. And the five key minerals that the consumer can see, oh, TDS of twenty, TDS of five hundred. And understands immediately what's going on. But here it's so confusing because the EPA tells me, don't drink anything five hundred or up. And the FDA doesn't could say anything about TDS. Why they're not saying anything about it? And this is now the very important thing. Because I've been to many, many spring sources in my life now. And I talked to many, many water producers. And they're all running literary tests every day. They wanna make sure their product is hundred percent safe. Imagine, a lot of the comments as well under your, your video was, let's you.

• 30:07Speaker 01

  Imagine these companies would go crazy. They would get sued every day when they actually would give you, uh, unsafe water.

• 30:15Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  So what, what's happening with bottled water? Let's imagine, crazy number, two thousand TDS. They're getting the water. They're looking at the water quality report and they're saying, we have two thousand TDS. Why? So they're running a full quality report in a lab. Obviously, again, you cannot do it at home. Most of the water can actually have their own labs. You see them right next to the spring water, their own building. There's a full lap integrated because they're doing this all the time.

• 30:39Bunnie XO?

  All day long.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  They want to make sure it's everything is safe.

• 30:42Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  So they're running the quarter water quality report and now they're saying suddenly, oh, look at this, five hundred milligrams of magnesium, one hundred milligrams of sodium, two hundred and fifty milligrams of potassium. You're sure my water is super high. Then they're running again the report for arsenic or for other stuff, lead, what you obviously don't want to have in your water. But their regulations by the FDA, how much arsenic, for example, can be in a water? And no, it's not that they're adding arsenic to it to make you poison or something. It's not like what I'm always seeing. It's not like a company who tries to make, let's say, as an example again, guys, I'm not against the milk industry, so don't take me my words. But as an example, milk back in the days in Germany had maybe an expiration of two days. Now suddenly two weeks.

• 31:29Speaker 01

  What happened? So something they're adding something in there, in my opinion, to make it the shelf life longer. The same with bread, the same with other things. And these chemicals, what they're adding in, might be having a problem at one point. By bottled water, for example, with the arsenic topic, what was your topic as well?

• 31:45Bunnie XO?

  Yes, which let's touch base on that really quick before you get into it. Is there the the whole reason why we're here is because there was a company who supposedly tests water too, that had a a reel on Instagram. And it said, you know, had people tagging me in it and they, should we bring up the instant? Should we bring up the reel or no? Can you can you play it for us? Did you ever get to see it, Martin?

• 32:08Speaker 01

  No, I never I never saw what triggered you. I just know that you saw something and you wanted to do it for yourself.

• 32:12Bunnie XO?

  I'm gonna play it for you.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  That would be great because maybe maybe I know already why they're doing it.

• 32:16Bunnie XO?

  Well, what they had said was that Mountain Valley Spring Water has been hiding their stats and like their testing for the past two years since I think it was Primo bought them out. And that they have high arsenic in the water and like over what the FDA allows. And so I was like, I don't believe this. I even left a comment. I was like, I need.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  I still don't believe it because I know the facts, it's not true.

• 32:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I. I was like, I don't know if I believe this or not. So I'm gonna test the water.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  And I get it. I totally get it where you're coming from.

• 32:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:50Speaker 01

  And when you don't think about it, because for you, you're just like, I like the water. Now suddenly an influencer or somebody tells me on the internet, it's not healthy. Maybe I wanna check out.

• 33:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, and I'm far from a water sommelier. I don't know. I listen, I just drink it and pour it all over myself.

• 33:05Speaker 01

  I totally get the confusion there.

• 33:07Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  I totally get it.

• 33:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Let me let you see this video. It's on Instagram. Just type in arsenic in Mountain Valley Water and it'll pop up. Or here, maybe I can send it to you. Give me two seconds.

• 33:22Bunnie XO?

  Cause I would really like for you to comment on what they had to say, because I think that this is where a lot of the rumors are coming from.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  I have a feeling I know which video that is. It's the guy who has this app, the water app.

• 33:33Bunnie XO?

  I'm not positive. Let me see really quick.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  So we'll see.

• 33:37Bunnie XO?

  Here he is. Yeah.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  It's the guy.

• 33:39Bunnie XO?

  Right here. Him?

• 33:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's the guy. Yeah.

• 33:43Bunnie XO?

  It's.

• 33:43Speaker 01

  But let's watch it and I will debunk it.

• 33:45Speaker 04

  Mountain Valley Water hasn't been tested since 2023 and the company's been hiding their lab reports since then. That is until we tested their five gallon glass bottle option last month. Here's what we found inside. There were a total of 10 contaminants along with eight beneficial minerals detected. However, the most alarming part was arsenic at 40 times the recommended health guidelines, which could be carcinogenic, neurotoxic, and cause reproductive issues. However, it was detected below legal limits. There is also two times the health guideline of total trihalomethanes, along with a maximum recommended amount of nitrates. The other seven contaminants, including fluoride, barium, and uranium, were below health guidelines. The highest mineral detected was calcium at 58.2 milligrams per liter, along with a few others which were similar to their 2023 report, which likely suggests that they are using the same source in Arkansas.

• 34:29Speaker 04

  You can view the full report for yourself and other recommended waters on.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  So, so I've been tagged in many, many of his videos as well. And first of all, I think it's great when people are trying to be more transparent. I think it's great. The idea what he has, I think is actually great. The execution I have a problem with. Because what he does is nothing else than fear mongering on the internet.

• 34:51Bunnie XO?

  It sent me in panic.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  This is how he sells his subscriptions.

• 34:54Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 34:55Speaker 01

  So it's a subscription model on his app. You need to pay, I have no clue how much. And he does this on purpose to push these videos out again and again and again.

• 35:04Bunnie XO?

  But isn't that considered?

• 35:05Speaker 01

  To spread fear.

• 35:06Bunnie XO?

  Isn't that considered misinformation then?

• 35:07Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 35:08Bunnie XO?

  So can he be sued for that?

• 35:09Speaker 01

  What he said, I think water companies actually have a very good reason to.

• 35:13Bunnie XO?

  Sue him.

• 35:14Speaker 01

  Good, heavily legal matters with him at one point. And for sure it will happen at one point. Look, I'm not in the water industry, it's not my problem, huh? Like, I'm not touching that. But I have a feeling this guy will have severe issues at one point.

• 35:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:26Speaker 01

  From the water industry, there will be a pushback.

• 35:28Bunnie XO?

  You can't do that to people.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  No, so first of what he said, oh, they're hiding, they're hiding their water quality report since twenty-three, since Prima bought them. They bought Mountain Valley in two thousand twenty. First of all, that's online, you can easily research this. So his first thing what he already said, they are hiding their water quality report is not true. There's a quality report on the homepage, clearly, it is from twenty-three. I actually called Mountain Valley up when I saw the videos. I was like, uh, guys, can I, can I have a water quality report? And they're like, absolutely. They sent me one and the, the, the measurements are totally different than this one.

• 36:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, and let me interject right there before you go on. Mountain Valley actually reached out to my team and called a meeting with my team and they were more than gracious, more than sweet and were like, look, you know, we don't have anything to hide, but what they did give us was an official statement that I'm gonna read on here for you guys. Let me put my bifocals on. Hold on one second. So this is an official statement from Mountain Valley Water. Bunny, I am so glad your team was willing to speak with us. As you can imagine, the safety and quality of our products are at the core of what we do. Our products are thoroughly tested in accordance with both federal and state law and we meet all quality and safety standards, including those set by the U.S.

• 36:46Bunnie XO?

  Food and Drug Administration, the International Bottled Water Association, and the relevant agencies in states where our products are made and distributed. We may. Maintain rigorous protocols grounded in science at every stage of the bottling process so that our purified and spring water brands meet our own high standards, as well as federal, state, and local health and safety requirements. As a proud member of the International Bottled Water Association, IBWA, we also comply with additional quality standards that exceed FDA requirements. As you know, what makes the Mountain Valley, as you know, what makes Mountain Valley the brand as it is known is that it has been bottled right at the source in the,

• 37:30Bunnie XO?

  I don't know how to say this, the Ohashita Mountains.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  Mountains, yeah.

• 37:35Bunnie XO?

  Okay, mountains since 1871. Interesting things to note, in any natural source, there are naturally occurring minerals that appear in the soil and groundwater that at federally regulated levels are safe to consume. We regularly and rigorously test our spring water so that it meets all FDA and IBWA requirements and pride ourselves on exceeding those standards to provide healthy and safe water to all consumers. We continue to prioritize consumer safety and trust delivering products that meet all standards of quality and compliance. As we spoke with your team, about a TDS meter is not designed to and does not measure contaminants. Its purpose is to measure all organic and inorganic substances,

• 38:20Bunnie XO?

  such as minerals, salts, etc., in a liquid and will not determine whether or not a water sample is safe or healthy to drink. TDS, or total dissolved solids, can vary in water sources, leading to lower or higher TDS readings, reflecting the water's natural mineral richness and flavor profile. Fun fact, similar to the difference in taste between a full-bodied Cabaret and a light Pinot Noir, which is exactly what you said. So, thank you, Mountain Valley Spring Water.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  I think so too. It's nice to see that, that the company is reacting.

• 38:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, and we appreciate you. And we appreciate the transparency because, you know, I did not mean to fear monger or send people into a panic, but just by human nature, we all started freaking out.

• 39:01Speaker 01

  I totally get it. I totally get it. And this is like what I think is great because Mountain Valley actually has their water quality report clearly posted on their homepage. Trust me, other water companies trying to hide them. They're actually hiding them.

• 39:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like who? Who hides their stuff?

• 39:13Speaker 01

  Dazani, for example. I even called them. I'm saying, can I have their water quality report? No, this is trade secret. He's saying, are you kidding me? Your water quality report is your trade secret? Come on.

• 39:25Bunnie XO?

  What about Fiji? How's Fiji landing?

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Fiji's very good, very transparent as well.

• 39:29Bunnie XO?

  Really? Love that.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  Very transparent. Great water for red wines.

• 39:33Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  Fiji. Fiji has a lot of silica dissolved and natural occurring mineral, especially in Pacific Rim area, especially in Fiji water. There are not so many brands who have such a high silica content like Fiji. And by tannin-rich red wines, who are like very bitter in the aftertaste, the silica makes that, makes the wine super smooth. Unbelievable. You should try that out. Like a heavy Cabernet and then Fiji right next to it. You will say like, you will be like, what the hell? What's happening to my red wine?

• 40:01Bunnie XO?

  It's so crazy that you can manipulate your palate like that to just see the difference and stuff. Can we talk about, okay, I don't know if I'm gonna, how to pronounce this, but deuterium depleted water?

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Deuterium depleted water, yeah. It's for me all, there's, there's so many different waters out there these days.

• 40:18Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 40:19Speaker 01

  And they all have different, what people are saying, health effects. Look, I'm not a doctor. And I know, I'm not going into the whole health scene. I know basic stuff, what I think is important. And I see what is a little bit more gimmicky and not gimmicky. And for me, this deuterium depleted water, the hydrogen water, what is a huge,

• 40:39Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  What is a huge thing right now as well.

• 40:42Bunnie XO?

  My husband literally walks around because Joe Rogan talks about.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  It's not bad to drink it. Don't get me wrong. It would not harm him. I don't think it will actually give you the benefits. There's a placebo to it. And the thing is with hydrogen water, for example, they have no clue how many, how much hydrogen actually needs to be added to the water. And how long the water is actually stable to have the hydrogen as a gas. It will disappear immediately.

• 41:08Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  That maybe it has an impact on your health. Maybe they're even saying in the studies. And they're saying, there are so many studies been done. Yeah, they're all saying the same at the end. We actually don't know. We need more research. It was the same with alkaline water for several years ago that everybody freaked out about the high alkaline pH.

• 41:25Bunnie XO?

  I was on a turn.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  What is clearly now, it was a marketing gimmick because it doesn't matter what you drink or eat, it will go acidic in your body.

• 41:32Bunnie XO?

  It's like distilled water almost, isn't it? Alkaline water?

• 41:37Speaker 01

  No, alkaline water can actually from nature be alkaline, based on the different mineral compositions. Or you can recreate alkaline water by pushing it through an ionizing machine. That means you're splitting off the water molecules and there's acidic and alkaline ions in water and you're separating the acidic ions and you're just collecting the positive charge alkaline ions together and then you're selling this ionized water. There's for example, what was under your comments and that was where I'm really getting then upset, because under your comment, suddenly started the multi-level marketing people commenting, they're trying to trick you into a multi-level marketing.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  So some people comment, "Oh, this is all crap, every bottled water is bad, my medical water is the best water you can buy." And they're not even allowed to say medical water, getting in serious trouble for this by their mother company, they're just doing it because it's multi-level marketing and nobody's accountable. What's the problem with multi-levels?

• 42:36Bunnie XO?

  I feel like that's the problem, not to cut you off, but I feel like that's the problem is why are these companies and people not being held accountable for what they're feeding to the masses?

• 42:45Speaker 01

  I know. Sometimes I'm like, I'm the only guy maybe online who's actually debunking all the time these people.

• 42:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I feel like if somebody actually stepped in and said, "Hey, you can't say this, hey, America, you need to put the TDS and the minerals and stuff like that on the bottles."

• 43:00Speaker 01

  And some are doing this, for example, Fiji, turn around the Fiji bottle, they're saying it, TDS and the key minerals, look how transparent they are. Look, as a big company, I love this, this is the way it should be, this is the way it should be. Beach, and I'm always saying this to so many watercomers when they ask me for my help, you think the first basic for everything what you're doing, put your water quality report on your homepage and put your key minerals and the TDS on your bottle, be transparent. This is the only thing. What the consumer actually cares for. They wanna be transparent. The problem obviously with the school system, we talked a little bit offline over about this. That not so much has been taught about water. So people came up with this idea of pure, pure, pure, pure purified water.

• 43:45Speaker 01

  That's a marketing gimmick again created by big corporations who just want to sell you tons of tap water because they have a great money making machine there huh?

• 43:52Bunnie XO?

  That is all purified water, tap water?

• 43:54Speaker 01

  All purified water is tap water. So when you see purified on the bottle, and I'm not even fully against purified. For example, when you have like a pure life water, for example, at Costco for like, I don't know the price point, but it's super cheap. I get it. The soccer mom says, I just need bottled water for my kids when they're going to sport. I get it. I get it. For a cheap price. I totally get it.

• 44:16Bunnie XO?

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• 45:18Speaker 01

  But when you are a company who suddenly bases off premium purified water and charges three dollars for the bottle. And and creates all this marketing hype about Alka line and restructured water and all this nonsense what I see all the time. I have a problem with that. But that's misleading. That's all misleading. There's a company by Arrow One. I don't know if you know Arrow One. It's like a this super fancy retail or like grocery store in Los Angeles. And there's one water, they're literally like saying everything, they're saying hyperoxynated, we are not a fish, I cannot gain oxygen from water, sorry. Like, I'm like, what is that? How is that working? So, hyperoxynated, restructured water, alkaline water,

• 45:59Speaker 01

  and nano purified, that can go, that you, the term what they're always using, it will hide with you on the salwar level. Sounds crazy and fancy, yeah, every water will do that because it needs to go to my cell to get nutrition to my cell and close waste out of my cell. Every water will go on the salwar level. Please don't, don't use these marketing terms. So they have all this BS on their front label and on the back label they're saying, everything what we say on the front label is not FDA approved, so please don't use yours, pretty much. It's all marketing. That's why I told you, this whole business is a mess. It's a huge mess and the consumer is super confused. Because sure, I would be confused when I had no clue about water

• 46:44Speaker 01

  and I see a TDS meter on TikTok, because everybody uses it suddenly. Five hundred years poisoning, and then, and then you have suddenly, then you forget, no, but then I get it, I totally get it. And then the FDA tells you, no, it's totally fine. What's up with the FDA now, suddenly you would think? But that there's a two different parts of shoes because it has something to do with cross contamination versus the bottle is closed at the spring source, now they know the TDS of 2000, nothing can happen to this bottle anymore. When it's in glass, plastic is a different game plan sometimes, but glass, best container ever.

• 47:17Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so can we talk about microplastics? Because now they're saying that you can, that there's microplastics in glass bottles also.

• 47:26Speaker 01

  So, let's be honest, microplastics everywhere. Everywhere, in every food you're eating, in every bottle of water, pretty much. Everywhere is microplastic. Most of the microplastic, people don't know this, comes from your car tires. That's the main source of microplastic.

• 47:41Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 47:42Speaker 01

  The runoffs of your tires, that is a huge problem, what we're facing. And then obviously, many, many other parts because we're using just too much plastic. So to to suddenly say, oh, what are we gonna do now? Oh, we need to filter, we need to do this. No, we need to get rid of plastic, guys. We need to find a new idea to to. We need to attack the problem where it occurs. We don't need to just a solution. No, we need the solution needs to be attacking where it starts the problem.

• 48:09Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  That's the solution here, guys. It's the same when my doctor tells me, Martin, you have a high cholesterol. We need to attack it now before you're getting a heart attack. Uh, we don't want a heart attack. My father just had one for five days ago, but he's safe. Everything is great.

• 48:23Bunnie XO?

  Oh, good.

• 48:24Speaker 01

  He's happy. Everything is good. I talked to him, he's safe. My mother saved his life, I think, because she realized something is off with my father. They're both in their mid eighties.

• 48:32Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 48:32Speaker 01

  So it's it's great, but.

• 48:33Bunnie XO?

  Well, I'm happy dad's good, though.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  I'm so happy that my father is is happy because literally on that day where you posted this and I get all this thing, my sister called and I was a mess mentally, obviously. And then I had to deal with all this stuff.

• 48:45Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God, Martin, I'm sorry. Son of a bitch.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  That day was fun.

• 48:50Bunnie XO?

  I'm so sorry.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  No, no, but I'm here. Everything is good. My father is healthy. He's already at home again and he looks great because he gets actually suddenly oxygen through his bladder anymore. Before he didn't have so much because it was ninety percent off cut it already by his heart. Man, I'm so lucky.

• 49:05Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  But then you're realizing suddenly we are all mortal.

• 49:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:10Speaker 01

  Huh? I never, sure, you know, it's happening, but this was really like this first like warning signal for me for several days ago. He's like, oh, my God, it can happen every day. This call that you're sitting in the plane and then flying back to Germany because you need to bury your loved ones. Oh, terrible. I can't even, I don't even want to talk about it.

• 49:28Bunnie XO?

  Dad's gonna rock it out for a long time, so don't stress about that.

• 49:31Speaker 01

  My mother, my grandmother was ninety nine when she passed.

• 49:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh, so you guys are gonna live forever.

• 49:36Speaker 01

  So he has way more, yes, at least thirty more years.

• 49:39Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 49:39Speaker 01

  And he drinks good water. He knows me.

• 49:41Bunnie XO?

  Good.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:42Bunnie XO?

  So is there microplastics in glass bottles?

• 49:45Speaker 01

  So it can happen as well. Yes, absolutely. And I did a video about this and it looks like maybe it comes from the source. Maybe it comes actually from the, uh, from the cap.

• 49:55Bunnie XO?

  Very interesting. Yes, I've heard the cap.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  And I was really think like, because I saw this study saying, how is that possible from the cap?

• 50:01Bunnie XO?

  That's what I was gonna say. If it comes from the cap, is it enough to even like really affect?

• 50:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, it seems like, but then I looked, then I thought like, but how, but it seems like it's just about when they're painting something on the cap. It's not just the metal cap. It's more like the paint on the cap.

• 50:15Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  So this is the paint has microplastic. And then I thought, but how is this ending up now into the water when the outside is thing? But again, I've been to several water companies and sometimes the caps are actually mixed in one big bucket. And they're flirting around there and then a machine is picking them up and puts them in little tubes. So they've been moved around the whole time. And I think that is a problem during bottling. That then microplastic maybe can be introduced. And this is like again, where our water companies have to learn as well and adapt. They never thought about this. And then see suddenly a study. And they're saying it comes from the painting of the cup. So hopefully. Lot of water companies will switch their caps to non-painting anymore because I don't need to have the name of the water on top of it.

• 50:58Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 50:58Speaker 01

  I don't care.

• 50:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:59Speaker 01

  I, I less work, microplastic is better for me.

• 51:01Bunnie XO?

  It's like Snapple, you know, like when you, there, you know, there was like a little thing underneath whenever you open it up.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  Don't do that anymore because obviously it's not good. Or maybe another version, maybe you need to wash your caps before it goes actually on the bottle, something like that. But. That's the reason we're all learning. We're all learning together. Even the big companies are learning as well, guys. So don't be always upset immediately with a company. So for example, Mountain Valley Springs, even when they, because I saw the newest water quality report, yes, there is arsenic in that water. In so low amounts, you barely can measure. It's Andy non-detectable to one parts per billion. Parts per billion. And again, arsenic is a natural element what you can find in many, many foods and many, many waters. For example. Um, brown rice.

• 51:49Bunnie XO?

  Yes, yes.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Hundred and fifty four.

• 51:51Bunnie XO?

  I learned that today.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  Per billion versus one, what is Mountain Valley? So the idea that Mountain Valley is poisoning, obviously is completely nonsense, even when there is maybe what he does. He's fear, he's fear porn.

• 52:04Bunnie XO?

  Fear mongering.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  He's fear mongering to sell his app. That's what he does. What is sad? I feel sad for him actually.

• 52:11Bunnie XO?

  So the only water that doesn't have arsenic in it would be the pure purified water or would even not have arsenic in it too?

• 52:17Speaker 01

  Because like all these waters come from different spring sources and sometimes maybe uh, that element of, of arsenic is not in that grounds. So some waters will have zero, but again, when I drink alcohol, let's be honest, I will, I will have a nice beer tonight. I'm very excited for that. That's my.

• 52:35Bunnie XO?

  You're German, you're supposed to drink beer.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  I have videos on this where people saying, what's your flavored water take? Martin saying, yeah, and then I will grab a beer.

• 52:43Bunnie XO?

  What's your favorite kind of beer?

• 52:44Speaker 01

  I love Hefe Weizen, so wheat.

• 52:46Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love Hefe Weizen with uh, orange slices in it?

• 52:49Speaker 01

  I'm a big fan of that.

• 52:50Bunnie XO?

  So good, me too.

• 52:51Speaker 01

  So, so I like these one, I like these beers, but we all know, let's be honest, that that is actually poisoning. Alcohol, that is really bad for you.

• 52:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 52:59Speaker 01

  It doesn't matter in which amount, it's just bad.

• 53:01Bunnie XO?

  Oh, and beer, beer has gluten in it, like so much.

• 53:04Speaker 01

  So, so the minimalistic idea, and I looked at it like what actually this once parts per billion means, that means when you, when you put one drop of arsenic into an Olympic swimming pool, that's what that water has in the arsenic.

• 53:19Bunnie XO?

  Wow, okay.

• 53:20Speaker 01

  Think about this.

• 53:21Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 53:22Speaker 01

  Uh, so, and lucky me, we all know maybe, we, we all saw the movie, um, War of the Worlds. Hmm? So, there's this movie out, from the fifties, yeah, already, the book and everything, incredible good movie. So, how did the aliens didn't survive on our planet? Because they've been exposed to our nature in the end. That's how we actually fought them. It's not that we fought them with guns, we tried it, but we didn't work out. No, they killed themselves by bacteria, what we have, micro bacteria in our air. So it's the same with arsenic. My body can actually handle several poisonings because I have a liver. Maybe you don't have it, but I have it. I just can't talk for myself right now because I'm not a doctor.

• 54:04Bunnie XO?

  I think my liver is beaten and tattered, but it's still working.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  But I have a liver and my liver can actually get rid of arsenic.

• 54:10Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 54:11Speaker 01

  Through my urine. So it is when people say immediately on the internet, oh, there's poison in it. Yeah, sure, everything is poisoning. Even an orange, a beautiful, amazing orange is super healthy. We all know this. Imagine you would just eat oranges, nothing else anymore. You will have a problem at one point. On this example, because I did a video, but it was so hilarious to me because it fits perfectly in this team. There was a guy once on Twitter who said bottled water is radioactive. You should not drink bottled water. So I looked at this claim and there was one brand, what he said, what like 1,400 Beckerol, I think is the measurement. How you how you measure the how you measure the the the radioactivity.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  So this bottled water at 1,200, it sounds crazy. 1,200, this is radioactive. Oh, my God, like you think it's bad. Then I looked, oh, a banana has 15,000 of that. And then I looked, how many bananas do I have to eat to actually have an impact on my body about radioactivity? 50 million bananas.

• 55:17Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  It's fear mongering, guys.

• 55:20Bunnie XO?

  So it's like anybody could say anything, but it's like, of course, like.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  So he's right, yes. There is maybe arsenic in some waters. That does not mean it's unhealthy or unsafe to consume. That's the problem what I have with him. He's fear mongering to trick you, in my opinion, into a subscription model. And that's not cool. I don't like it.

• 55:40Bunnie XO?

  At all.

• 55:40Speaker 01

  Because I'm in the middle of creating an app as well, but my app will be totally different. It will tell you everything about the water, about the sustainability factor.

• 55:48Bunnie XO?

  I'm gonna be a subscriber.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  And it will be free for everybody.

• 55:51Bunnie XO?

  Yay.

• 55:52Speaker 01

  It's very important to me because I don't believe that knowledge should be paid for.

• 55:56Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:57Speaker 01

  I want to make this app for free for everybody. Let the water companies pay my bills. That they can maybe promote a little bit on my app later on something. So I'm trying to do it in this way. But I want that the consumer have it for free. And I will talk about sustainability, about the water quality report. I'm not gonna fear porn. Because for what? It's totally fine. It's FDA approved. I know I'm not the biggest fan of FDA, but we have to trust sometimes our agencies.

• 56:23Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 56:23Speaker 01

  And especially bottled water, because I've been in this industry since over twenty years now and really making research all the time.

• 56:29Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 56:30Speaker 01

  They're pretty good in that. Like they're safe. We don't have to worry about that.

• 56:34Bunnie XO?

  So what if you could name off the top of your head your five favorite waters and five least favorite waters?

• 56:40Speaker 01

  Doesn't exist. I will tell you. So first of all, the app will be called Sourced. That everybody knows it as well. And and we we we are in better right now. You cannot still download it, but you can go to sourced-water.com and you can be on the waiting list.

• 56:53Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 56:53Speaker 01

  And then we will send you out.

• 56:54Bunnie XO?

  Sign us up memes.

• 56:55Speaker 01

  And we will send you up when it's ready and it's gonna be really fun and cool. And the cool thing is you can actually use the app with your cellphone. You can scan the bottle, the barcode, and then the bottle will show up.

• 57:05Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 57:05Speaker 01

  So you have your personal water, so McGee Martin, with you all the time in the store.

• 57:10Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  That's the idea. Cool. So there is no best for me, and I can tell you why.

• 57:16Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 57:17Speaker 01

  Because I'm getting thirsty. I wanna try some waters this morning. I brought some. Because with wine, when you said, so what is your favorite wine? I would say, no, like when I have sushi, I maybe want a Sauvignon Blanc, but for my steak or for my barbecue tonight, I wouldn't drink a Sauvignon Blanc. I would drink maybe a red wine. So there is good water for your lifestyle. Depends what you wanna do. So for example, Saratoga, what is a great brand here from the East Coast, has a TD, has a four D. So it's light in minerality.

• 57:51Bunnie XO?

  Which, by the way, that's what I've been drinking, guys.

• 57:53Speaker 01

  Here we go. So that's a great water, for example. That's a great water, for example, for sushi or for light appetizers.

• 58:01Bunnie XO?

  I feel like it's a thicker water.

• 58:03Speaker 01

  I like the consistency, yeah.

• 58:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 58:05Speaker 01

  That's a good volume on that water.

• 58:07Bunnie XO?

  Some of my friends have said that they feel like they don't get exactly like quenched when they drink this. Why is it like that with some waters?

• 58:14Speaker 01

  Because it's low in minerality. So they're maybe thinking, and this is obviously a fact, the more salts you're adding, the more flavor has a water, the stronger will be the flavor. And I think one of your friends maybe say, I like the more like maybe sparkling or more like intense waters where the minerality is a little bit higher. Saratoga's have a low mineral water. There's nothing wrong about low mineral waters. It's just a fact from the spring source that this water is has very small minerals dissolved in small amounts. Whereas a mountain valley is two twenty TDS or the Soho Sun is over a thousand TDS.

• 58:47Bunnie XO?

  I've missed you.

• 58:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  It's a great water. I have it at home.

• 58:52Bunnie XO?

  I love mountain valley water.

• 58:53Speaker 01

  It's very good.

• 58:53Bunnie XO?

  Like I literally, I've been drinking it for years.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  And it was so funny when they said about Primo waters and they freaked out about Primo and they're hiding and all this crazy stuff what people suddenly said. And I said, you guys know that Saratoga and Mountain Valley are both owned by Primo. It comes from the same house.

• 59:10Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 59:10Speaker 01

  It's not same source, obviously. It's totally different sources.

• 59:13Bunnie XO?

  Learned that. I didn't know that, but yes.

• 59:15Speaker 01

  Company. It's Primo waters. They're all independent operating pretty much. But Primo is the umbrella company. They own Arrowhead, they own Poland Spring, they own Osaka from Texas.

• 59:25Bunnie XO?

  They're like a water monopoly.

• 59:26Speaker 01

  I don't want to say monopoly because there's so many other brands out there. But they are pretty big in the water industry. And, and, and they actually invited me to some of their spring source because they want to be transparent. How beautiful is that?

• 59:39Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  And they showed me, for example, I've been at Saratoga Springs. And I've been at the White Cedar, uh, spring source where there's, where there's still water and glass comes from in Maine up. They invited me there. They showed me everything. They showed me the beautiful wetlands, what they have. They showed me that they have the water stewards right there to measure everything that the wetlands are in perfect intact. It's so nice to see that big companies actually care.

• 1:00:04Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:00:05Speaker 01

  And I would love to see it in more companies.

• 1:00:07Bunnie XO?

  It's refreshing.

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  That, that feeling. And, and they're actually good people. There are people behind us who don't want to screw people. They're saying, no, we want to actually take care of nature.

• 1:00:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, sure. It's, it's a problematic case because some people say they're stealing water. No, they're not stealing. First of all, they have a business model with the state or with the county or whatever. So like that they're stealing water somewhere. And when there's a problem, it needs to be addressed and they're addressing it.

• 1:00:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  And I will call it out as well. When people would suddenly fu- fuck around, pardon my English, I will call it out.

• 1:00:38Bunnie XO?

  Fuck around and find out.

• 1:00:40Speaker 01

  No, but like, no, no company for me has like a, a free jail card. It doesn't exist for me. I always question everything. I'm very always thinking about it, what they're doing, what they're not doing. But that they reached out to me and said, Martin, we really want to showcase what we're doing was a good sign.

• 1:00:55Bunnie XO?

  Right. What are some waters that you would not recommend that people would drink?

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  It really depends what you wanna do. So when you say, when your doctor told you, again, I'm not a doctor and it drives me nuts as well that on TikTok, everybody's a doctor. Um, and tells you what you drink and what you should not drink. Um, when a doctor tells you, maybe you need more salts in your blood, so more electrolytes. You can go for spring waters or mineral waters. Mineral water means comes from a spring and has to have at least two hundred and fifty TDS. That's mandatory. That's a threshold of mineral waters. They have to have two hundred and fifty TDS. And these are great sources for natural occurring electrolytes because they don't have been artificially added. So I have a problem with the companies who are saying we're adding electrolytes. People running to these waters, thinking they're getting now great, amazing amounts of electrolytes.

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  And they're getting barely anything. Cause the smart waters TDS I think is around twenty eight. It's nothing.

• 1:01:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  It's barely anything in there.

• 1:01:50Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:01:51Speaker 01

  And people buying it for their electrolyte level.

• 1:01:53Bunnie XO?

  Right, thinking that it's nourishing them in some, some way.

• 1:01:55Speaker 01

  And it's not unhealthy. Don't get me wrong, huh? It's not unhealthy to drink these waters. But for example, when I would go to the gym and I'm sweating a lot because I'm exercising, I would not drink that water.

• 1:02:06Bunnie XO?

  Right. You want something to replenish.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  I want something to replenish all my electrolytes. I'm just losing and I will go then to a water where there's more electrolytes dissolved. Yeah. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't bash a water. It's bad or it's, you, you, you will die when you drink that water. There's again, this multi-level lacking people, it's Kenge. I will say it as well because they, they're trying to hide the name and then by DMs, they're trying to tell you to into this Kenge scheme then.

• 1:02:30Bunnie XO?

  I, I actually fell for that and I, I bought one of those machines and I just didn't, I didn't love the way the water tasted. It didn't taste.

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  It's five thousand dollars.

• 1:02:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  Sell it on eBay.

• 1:02:41Bunnie XO?

  Yes, I know.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Sell it on eBay, sell it on eBay.

• 1:02:43Bunnie XO?

  It did, but it didn't ta- and this is not me bashing them, but to me, it didn't taste right. There was something off about it. I didn't love it.

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's processed tap water, let's be honest, huh? And then they're, and then they're saying like, no, and you, you can create all these different pH levels. First of all, we all learned already. I think that pH is a, it's a marketing gimmick. So that's over already, the game plan. The problem with this Kenyan people doing, and this drives me so nuts about accountability. Because again, Mountain Valley got in hot water, ponetied it right now, let's say like this, they reached out to you. It said, let's, let's, let's talk about the fact. Kenyan, that's exactly the other way around. They're doing it all on the back angle, alley. Yeah, no, it's like, you're, our, because I'm sending sometimes them emails. And say like, guys, you're telling me you're not allowed to say any health claims, but I see all your raps on TikTok all the time saying, when you drink this water, you have better blood flow.

• 1:03:34Speaker 01

  You can breathe better. No, I saw a claim, no cancer will come to you. How insane that is to even say that.

• 1:03:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I just say that.

• 1:03:41Speaker 01

  My mother's a cancer survivor. I'm very thankful that she had doctors surrounding her and supported her when she had breast cancer. And she survived it for twenty five years ago. And she listened to a doctor and not a water company. Like this is, and this is then for me where it gets personal. So they are actually harming people. That means they're creating death. Let's be honest. And then these people going on the TikToks and on Instagram and saying, when you drink liquid death, you're gonna die. This is what they're saying.

• 1:04:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  And you're like, what? Yeah, because it's sparkling and sparkling is acidic water and therefore it's bad for you. Cancer can drive in your body and then you're gonna die. I see, are you guys nuts? Because they're, they don't understand basic chemical structures. So for someone, they're saying, oh, cancer cannot drive in an alkaline environment. They're actually right with that claim. Guess what else cannot survive in a fully alkaline environment? Your body, because you're gonna be dead, because your body is different pH level, it's not just one. And that is a problem, how they're like trying to, under the radar mingling around and trying to scare people to tell and making crazy claims about water brands, what is absolutely not

• 1:04:53Speaker 01

  true, to try to into this multi-level marketing scheme. And that is so sad. And I'm getting, I'm getting very upset about it. Like, I don't wanna be upset, but I'm getting really upset.

• 1:05:03Bunnie XO?

  It is infuriating though.

• 1:05:04Speaker 01

  I hate people who are getting scammed. It drives me nuts. I don't want that Americans getting scammed.

• 1:05:08Bunnie XO?

  I was one of them.

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  And I don't want it and I fight my best for it, to protect people.

• 1:05:13Bunnie XO?

  Well, we need more Martins in this world. I'm telling you, because it's, you have blown my mind today with some of the facts that I had no idea about. Do you wanna start trying some of these waters?

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, absolutely. And I think we should, we talked about Saratoga Mountain Valley and I think like, let's actually taste Saratoga and then I brought a water, what is so different. They are two still waters. Uh, Saratoga, let's start with this and then let's go to three bays from Australia, what is really funny.

• 1:05:39Bunnie XO?

  Okay, perfect. I'm excited.

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  A little bit. We just need a little glass and then.

• 1:05:42Bunnie XO?

  No, I'm ready. I wanna, while we're waiting to pour these, I'm gonna ask you a question because my friend, J-Dog from Hollywood Undead, actually is like really, um, you know, obsessed with waters and stuff too. And he wanted me to ask you

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, please.

• 1:05:58Bunnie XO?

  a couple of questions. So hold on, let me pull them up.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Pour a little bit. I just need a little bit for myself.

• 1:06:04Bunnie XO?

  Oh, done.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  We're tasting water and not drinking it. No.

• 1:06:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh, there's a difference.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. By the way, I have them on room temperature, the waters on purpose, because when you drink room temperature water, you can actually taste everything out of the water. When you're putting an ice cube or you're chilling them super down, you barely can taste anything anymore, because you're actually numbing up your taste abilities.

• 1:06:24Bunnie XO?

  That's insane.

• 1:06:25Speaker 01

  Try to get rid of ice cubes, guys. Like, ice cubes is actually the poison for beverages.

• 1:06:29Bunnie XO?

  Wow. And plus, you don't know what water, you don't know what water they were using for the ice either.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  By the way, I don't wanna, I don't wanna bash Nashville, but oh my God, guys, like, I, I had to go to the restaurant right after I came out of the plane. I pressed, I pressed the, the, the, the water in the toilet and this whole wave of chlorine came into my nose.

• 1:06:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  And I was like, oh my God, that is intense. And then I thought, oh, maybe they have a chlorine problem here. So I went over then to the, to wash my hands, obviously. And this is the first thing I'm always doing. So I'm taking both hands and then I'm putting water up to my nose. Oh my God, it was.

• 1:07:09Bunnie XO?

  Chlorine?

• 1:07:10Speaker 01

  Oh, it was so bad.

• 1:07:11Bunnie XO?

  Scary. We have a water softener.

• 1:07:12Speaker 01

  It was scary. You have to.

• 1:07:13Bunnie XO?

  Stalled in our house.

• 1:07:14Speaker 01

  When I saw this over there, you have to have a water softener in the system.

• 1:07:17Bunnie XO?

  Yes. And it's crazy because my husband, the first night he used it, he's like, and I didn't tell him we got it. He's like, baby, my skin feels so slimy. And I'm like, we have a water softener now.

• 1:07:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's way better. A lot of people don't know this. It's very important, not just what you're drinking, even what you're showering with.

• 1:07:31Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:07:31Speaker 01

  A shower filter is mandatory, in my opinion, in this country. They're not expensive, guys. You can buy a, add on shower filter for like sixty, seventy bucks. I have, for example, a Versosmo system at my place from Delta faucet, because they're pretty cool. Because by our, oh, the problem is you're filtering everything out.

• 1:07:49Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:07:50Speaker 01

  And then you don't have the minerals anymore. So a Delta faucet, our system, they have a cartridge. You plug it into your system and they're re mineralizing the water with a TDS of around ninety to a hundred. I love this. And by the way, they reached out for several years ago as well, when they were in development stage and said, Martin, can we do a water tasting with you? So they wanted to learn as well as a company.

• 1:08:12Bunnie XO?

  Ah.

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  And I love these companies.

• 1:08:14Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  And they're saying like, we want to learn.

• 1:08:15Bunnie XO?

  I think it's beautiful. Transparency is beautiful.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  And that's great. So I'm a big fan of them. Okay.

• 1:08:20Bunnie XO?

  This one?

• 1:08:20Speaker 01

  So Saratoga, let's taste it.

• 1:08:22Bunnie XO?

  Saratoga. I don't, I don't like drinking out of glasses. I like to drink straight from the bottle.

• 1:08:27Speaker 01

  You're a bottle girl?

• 1:08:28Bunnie XO?

  I'm a, I'm a bottle girl.

• 1:08:30Speaker 01

  But it's a smooth water. It's not, it's not heavy. It's not salty or something because it does have so many minerals.

• 1:08:36Bunnie XO?

  Thick, right?

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, but think about the next one. When you think this is thick.

• 1:08:40Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 1:08:41Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  So this is the water. I've been on this Zac Efron show, Doubt to Earth with Zac Efron.

• 1:08:46Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:08:46Speaker 01

  And Anna Kendrick was sitting right next to me and we had this tasting, we had this water on the show. And she had this water and she's like, what the hell is going on?

• 1:08:54Bunnie XO?

  Ah.

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  She could not believe, and it's your bottle. So you want it, when you want to drink it from here, that's yours.

• 1:08:59Bunnie XO?

  No, it's okay. I'll have her pour it. This is your bottle.

• 1:09:01Speaker 01

  I'm not taking them back.

• 1:09:02Bunnie XO?

  I don't want to just be swigging on your bottles.

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  So. So this water has a very interesting story. So it's been founded by accident by a retirement couple in Australia, a little bit southern of Melbourne. And it looks like this water is around 2,000 years old. That means the last time it was rainwater, because obviously every water is billions of years old.

• 1:09:22Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  But I mean, like, the last time it was rainwater, it was from 2,000 years ago. It passes for 2,000 years through stone layers and picks up so much minerality. So the TDS here is 1,300. So your TDS meter would blow away, actually. When you put your TDS meter in that water.

• 1:09:38Bunnie XO?

  I would have fainted.

• 1:09:40Speaker 01

  Well, I think evaporize.

• 1:09:41Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:09:43Speaker 01

  By that water.

• 1:09:44Bunnie XO?

  Okay, cheers.

• 1:09:49Bunnie XO?

  This one is thick, but oh my gosh, it's good. You guys try it.

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  It's crazy, huh? That is thick. That is actually a very heavy water.

• 1:09:56Bunnie XO?

  That is thick.

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  It has very interesting minerality after notes, what I really love.

• 1:10:00Bunnie XO?

  But that, so the aftertaste, what is that?

• 1:10:03Speaker 01

  It's the minerality now.

• 1:10:04Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  It's loaded with 27 key minerals.

• 1:10:07Bunnie XO?

  It's almost like sweet though, right?

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, it's very creamy.

• 1:10:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  It's very creamy. You're absolutely right. Sweetie, creamy.

• 1:10:14Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:10:14Speaker 01

  It's a very unique water.

• 1:10:16Bunnie XO?

  I don't know if I love it or not. I would have to definitely try another sip of that.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  Then let's, let's taste the water what everybody was talking about.

• 1:10:25Bunnie XO?

  Oh, the frickin' Mountain Valley. Come here, baby.

• 1:10:27Speaker 01

  The Mountain Valley water.

• 1:10:28Bunnie XO?

  This is my favorite.

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  I have the sparkling here. Let's go with the sparkling, because I have another sparkling water for you. That you have two carbonation levels.

• 1:10:34Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:10:35Speaker 01

  So Mountain Valley, is it still, oh, you have to be careful, not that we're getting wet here with Martin, with the water somewhere here. So, I'm so European of me, huh?

• 1:10:43Bunnie XO?

  So I'm, I'm gonna...

• 1:10:45Speaker 01

  You're all over 18 here, huh?

• 1:10:47Bunnie XO?

  Alright, so I'm gonna ask you this question from my boy J-Dog. He said, what TDS gives you kidney stones? A lot of confusion on that. High TDS does, but at what rate?

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. There is no water range, because we're all humans are different. Some people can drink a high TDS water with 2,500 day in, day out, and will never have kidney stones. Others, they maybe get kidney stones by a TDS of 300. There is no, it's... Talk to your doctor, talk to your doctor, do your checkups all the time, every year you should do a checkup for yourself and when there's a problem, you need to look why. Maybe it doesn't come even from food, eh, from, from food might mean, maybe it doesn't come from the water, maybe it comes from your food, from your high diet because there's tons of minerals dissolved too, what can build up to kidney stones. So it depends on you, there is, I'm so sorry, I would love always the question to have an answer sometimes, but I'm a guy, when there is no real answer, I will say it as well, I'm not faking

• 1:11:39Speaker 01

  answer, because a lot of influencers doing that as well these days, they're thinking, they need to know everything and then bullshitting around what is actually not true. So this is a very, very important question, I think, but you should check it out with your doctor, with your physician and see is there a problem or not. Like my parents drinking high mineral content water since many years and they never had kidney stones. Others have it immediately.

• 1:12:01Bunnie XO?

  His second question was, a lot of people assume if they get a salt softener, it's safe to drink the water after, but you're doing an ion exchange and trading one mineral for another, so you're drinking a shit ton of sodium or magnesium and is that safe? Do you still need an RO filter?

• 1:12:19Speaker 01

  So water softeners bringing down minerality, but he's right, it will interchange with other minerals and it really again depends obviously on you as your body, on your lifestyle, on your diet, even if the water is now totally fine, or maybe you should think about an RO system. When you're adding a RO system, you don't have to have a water softener anymore because you already have a NO now, it's double, that you don't have to do this. So I have a RO, that was for me my choice, my personal choice and again, because I'm using it does not mean everybody else needs to use it. It's very important to me, that's again, the big difference between influencer content creator. I can just say what I like and what I think would be for my lifestyle perfect.

• 1:13:02Speaker 01

  I chose RO because I liked it, this is the most safe way in my opinion, there's no really downsides, except your water bill will slightly go a little bit higher because there is waste water created as well by the RO system, because RO is nothing else than actually a very thin membrane where water needs to pass through and then filters the bad stuff out, what we definitely don't wanna have, we PFAS, microplastics, fiber chemicals, all this terrible stuff what we don't wanna have in our waters. But the problem is it will filter as well, calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, the stuff what I want to have in my water. And again, my RO has the benefit of adding back minerality. But you can do it at home as well when you don't have a fancy RO system, what I have, a little sea salt.

• 1:13:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:44Speaker 01

  Like a carafe of water, a little sea salt on top of it, and you're good to go. You created literally like a little electrolyte drink for yourself.

• 1:13:51Bunnie XO?

  Awesome.

• 1:13:52Speaker 01

  Okay. Mountain Valley Springs sparkling.

• 1:13:54Bunnie XO?

  I don't think I've ever had Mountain Valley Springs sparkling.

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  So this comes from a still water, obviously still water source.

• 1:14:00Bunnie XO?

  I'm smelling it like it's wine.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  Artificially to it.

• 1:14:03Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:14:07Speaker 01

  But I like the bubbles. The bubbles are very tiny.

• 1:14:10Bunnie XO?

  Jaime, you're the sparkling water drinker, right?

• 1:14:12Speaker 01

  They're not aggressive.

• 1:14:13Bunnie XO?

  So listen, he's a sparkling water fiend. This guy loves it.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  It's a beautiful water with a very good, very good, um, soft, soft bubbles.

• 1:14:25Bunnie XO?

  She said it tastes, she said it tastes like TV static.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. This one's gonna be fun.

• 1:14:32Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I can't wait.

• 1:14:33Speaker 01

  You will freak out, guys.

• 1:14:33Bunnie XO?

  Okay, we're gonna share.

• 1:14:35Speaker 01

  So the next one comes from the country of Georgia.

• 1:14:38Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:14:38Speaker 01

  So not the state Georgia.

• 1:14:39Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  We're talking about the country of Georgia.

• 1:14:42Bunnie XO?

  I never knew there was a frigging country named Georgia.

• 1:14:44Speaker 01

  Right next to Russia, on the east, east Europe.

• 1:14:47Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  And this water has more electrolytes than a Gatorade.

• 1:14:51Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:14:51Speaker 01

  The TDS is 5,000.

• 1:14:53Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:14:54Speaker 01

  It was like, it's very intense.

• 1:14:56Bunnie XO?

  This is gonna make my hair stand up.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  Yes, this water is crazy. Crazy is this water.

• 1:15:00Bunnie XO?

  I love learning about water, Martin. You gotta come back every year. This is so fun.

• 1:15:04Speaker 01

  Absolutely, I'm happy. And when you're in LA, come over. I have a beautiful house.

• 1:15:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I feel, yeah, we would love to.

• 1:15:09Speaker 01

  We have a nice, I have a nice backyard with

• 1:15:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  A nice pool and a hot well pool where we can immerse ourselves in water and drink water.

• 1:15:16Bunnie XO?

  This smells like, straight up.

• 1:15:19Speaker 01

  It has an irony to it, a smell.

• 1:15:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:22Speaker 01

  Like a metallic smell.

• 1:15:23Bunnie XO?

  This smells like

• 1:15:24Speaker 01

  5,000 TDS.

• 1:15:25Bunnie XO?

  It smells like monkey's blood.

• 1:15:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, you would think.

• 1:15:28Bunnie XO?

  Iodine? It smells like iodine.

• 1:15:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:15:30Bunnie XO?

  Okay, give it a sip.

• 1:15:38Bunnie XO?

  Oh, Lord. Oh, my goodness.

• 1:15:41Speaker 01

  It's super salty. It's super metallic. It's very intense, the water.

• 1:15:44Bunnie XO?

  So how, okay, how, somebody couldn't drink that every day?

• 1:15:48Speaker 01

  Correct. And that brings me to a very good point. And you're absolutely right. That is not meant for hydration anymore.

• 1:15:53Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  This water is so intense and has so much minerals, that actually definitely, in my opinion, that would definitely be a problem at one point for your body.

• 1:16:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:02Speaker 01

  When you just shove this down as your regular water.

• 1:16:04Bunnie XO?

  You know what it tastes like? Have you ever put Alka-Seltzer, like, in a water?

• 1:16:09Speaker 01

  It has the same impact like an Alka-Seltzer.

• 1:16:10Bunnie XO?

  Yes, okay.

• 1:16:11Speaker 01

  This is a medicine water.

• 1:16:12Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  So we have in Germany, and this is now where the FDA will hate me for it to where I'm saying this, and the farm industry will hate me for it. We have sixty water brands in Germany who falling under the medication law. Their state-approved medication, it's nothing else than bottled water.

• 1:16:30Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:16:30Speaker 01

  And here, the FDA forbids all the water companies to tell anything about health benefits besides water. What is crazy, because their water's out there, even here in America, who have a benefit besides hydration. For example, at Twitter, Joe's, a German brand's called Gerolsteiner. Two thousand five hundred TDS, loaded with calcium. It has the same amount of calcium in a glass of milk.

• 1:16:54Bunnie XO?

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• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  It's crazy for lactose intolerant people, that is just amazing, because they need calcium.

• 1:18:07Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:18:08Speaker 01

  Certain waters have that from nature.

• 1:18:10Bunnie XO?

  So what do you drink this for? Like if you're sick?

• 1:18:13Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 1:18:13Bunnie XO?

  If you are depleted, hungover.

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  Are like the waters in the spa and bath towns where people still going there to this day, then treat themselves on these healing waters. It's good for digesting, for example. So this is actually, when you cannot go to the restroom, that.

• 1:18:30Bunnie XO?

  Oh, it's like a magnesium drink.

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  Yes, so it actually will help to, to, for your digesting system. Most of these very high mineral content waters are very good for digesting. It's very interesting.

• 1:18:41Bunnie XO?

  Amazing.

• 1:18:42Speaker 01

  Because I cannot open because the only bottle I have, but this is, for example, the brand in Germany, Gerolsteiner, and that is medicine. The back label is a medicine back label. Up front here, there's a medication approving number printed on, and even it says in the German language, do not, no, not for children under twelve years. This is bottled water.

• 1:19:04Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:19:04Speaker 01

  You would think like, what? A bottled water needs to put a warning label in? It's not for children under twelve? No, because this is medicine. This is medicine.

• 1:19:12Bunnie XO?

  So would you drink the whole bottle or is there a dosage?

• 1:19:15Speaker 01

  They're putting it down, how much you have to drink for what.

• 1:19:17Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:19:18Speaker 01

  It's literally like, like medicine. They're telling you exactly what to do with this water.

• 1:19:21Bunnie XO?

  Amazing.

• 1:19:22Speaker 01

  So and I think that is like, again, this extreme confusion in America where everybody thinks water needs to be pure.

• 1:19:28Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:19:28Speaker 01

  And then they're coming with their TDS meters.

• 1:19:30Bunnie XO?

  That's me.

• 1:19:31Speaker 01

  No, again, not bashing about you, not at all, because I totally understand where you're coming from.

• 1:19:35Bunnie XO?

  I get it, I get it.

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  I knew where you were coming from.

• 1:19:37Bunnie XO?

  I'm taking accountability.

• 1:19:38Speaker 01

  And, and that was the issue with, with, with Americans. No wonder they're all freaking out when their TDS meter goes red.

• 1:19:45Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:19:45Speaker 01

  I would freak out as well. When I didn't know, I would freak out and say, what is going on here, guys? So no, it can be amazing, actually.

• 1:19:53Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:19:54Speaker 01

  When that thing goes red.

• 1:19:55Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:19:55Speaker 01

  It's like, yeah!

• 1:19:57Bunnie XO?

  So when you came in, you were freaking out about this?

• 1:19:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, we should drink this, Sokosani.

• 1:20:00Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Okay, it's called Sokasani and why do you love this so much?

• 1:20:06Speaker 01

  It has a very cool taste profile. It's like the TDS is around 1,300 TDS. It's still the sparkling version. Can you see it?

• 1:20:15Bunnie XO?

  This is still?

• 1:20:16Speaker 01

  Nice, even better.

• 1:20:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:18Speaker 01

  Because the still version has a slightly effervescent to it.

• 1:20:21Bunnie XO?

  It says four times more electrolytes.

• 1:20:25Speaker 01

  It's loaded with electrolytes, 1,300 TDS. It's more than a Gatorade as well, this one.

• 1:20:30Bunnie XO?

  So this you couldn't drink all the time either?

• 1:20:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, 1,300 is like, it's okay. I think like over 2,000, 3,000, then we're getting like, ooh, now it's getting like intense.

• 1:20:40Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:20:40Speaker 01

  1,300, like a Pellegrino is 900.

• 1:20:43Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:20:44Speaker 01

  It's Pellegrino.

• 1:20:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm not a huge Pellegrino fan.

• 1:20:50Speaker 01

  So Sokasani from Peru. The fun part is that this is naturally occurring bubbly. So it has super tiny bubbles.

• 1:20:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's what I was, I was like, is this sparkling?

• 1:20:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, the same with Bojomi. This was natural bubbles. So that happens when you have old volcanic reactions in the grounds. The water passes through the different stone layers will pick up now the CO2 slightly due to the magma. And now the water becomes acidic from a pH standpoint and acidic water has more dissolving power than still water, what has a higher pH has. So therefore the sparkling, natural sparkling waters always have a higher TDS as well, because they have more dissolving power. So that's the reason, 1,300, 4,000, this one is 2,500, like these naturally occurring sparkling waters are always super high in TDS.

• 1:21:37Bunnie XO?

  Alright, let's give it a whirl.

• 1:21:38Speaker 01

  Created by nature.

• 1:21:39Bunnie XO?

  Cheers.

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  Cheers.

• 1:21:46Bunnie XO?

  That was shocking. I didn't hate it though.

• 1:21:49Speaker 01

  No, I love that water. I am a big fan of Sokasani.

• 1:21:53Bunnie XO?

  It's, yeah, it's got a little tang to it, but then after you swallow, it's, okay, so you drink it, it's sparkling, you swallow it still.

• 1:22:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:22:01Bunnie XO?

  Right?

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  It's very, it's very interesting.

• 1:22:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:03Speaker 01

  And especially after Bojomi, obviously, it feels so much more approachable than Bojomi. But Bojomi, some people love Bojomi, they love. The taste.

• 1:22:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:12Speaker 01

  My wife loves high mineral content waters.

• 1:22:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:15Speaker 01

  She's addicted to it. And I think that has something to do with with her childhood as well, because she always been in water and trained as an Olympic swimmer. So she always needed electrolytes. So for her, water for her is not just hydration. She wants the electrolytes as well. She craves for this. And that's the reason sometimes when you see in tests, oh, look, tap water again, one in a blind test against bottled water. That does not mean that the tap water is actually better. That just means you grown up on that taste profile of the tap. You think that is good water. And you think suddenly that a water what you don't like from a taste perspective is suddenly bad. So it has something to do with your childhood.

• 1:22:53Bunnie XO?

  Would you suggest anybody in America drink tap water out here?

• 1:22:58Speaker 01

  We should all drink tap water because the most sustainable way, but you should filter it first.

• 1:23:01Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:23:02Speaker 01

  That's my.

• 1:23:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  Just, but I think I'm not against tap water at all. I'm a pro tap water person. Very important to me, but I have a feeling because the infrastructure needs to be clearly more money invested there. We have huge problems with the infrastructure in America. I think we all know that. And especially when it comes to oil pipes in this country is so big, I totally understand. It's a huge undertake for the country. So I'm not even saying they're bad. We just have the problem. We need to fix it. We saw what in Flint, Michigan happened.

• 1:23:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  But they tried to make it cheaper. They switched over to a new water source. And didn't realize that the city of Detroit where they used to get the water, adding something into the water to prevent their pipes from corrosion. So they didn't do that. And after two days, all the pipes were starting to get corrosive.

• 1:23:47Bunnie XO?

  And the water was brown and.

• 1:23:49Speaker 01

  Highly lead. So there was poison. It was poison that water. Then they switched it back to their original Detroit water, but the harm was done because all the pipes were now done. So they had to change out all the pipes and they're still doing it since eleven years. They're still fixing the pipes in Flint. Now think you need to fix the whole country.

• 1:24:09Speaker 01

  Obviously it's a huge undertake, so we have to make sure we're putting money aside to do this. The last administration, what we had before, this administration now, they actually started to invest in water infrastructure. And they put a plea on it that in 10 years, no more lead pipes are allowed to be here in America. What I think is a great step in the right direction. We need to put goals to each other, to say even 10 years sounds crazy. When you think about how much work that actually is, it's not crazy. But we need to put goals together to get better water into every single household in America. Because water is a human right.

• 1:24:45Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:24:45Speaker 01

  That's what I'm standing for. I'm not a fancy guy who just drinks fancy waters with beautiful ladies in this beautiful house here in Nashville. No, my passion actually goes for every person who don't have clean and excessive drinking water. We need to bring awareness to water because without water, we wouldn't be here.

• 1:25:04Bunnie XO?

  Martin, you're a blessing and the world is lucky to have somebody like you.

• 1:25:09Speaker 01

  I appreciate that. But I need the content creators like you to spread the words as well. And the more we are, the more power we have, the more we talk about water, the better it is for everybody. Even for our little fur animals, they need water too.

• 1:25:21Bunnie XO?

  Sweet little babies.

• 1:25:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, they need water too.

• 1:25:24Speaker 05

  Haley has a question.

• 1:25:27Speaker 05

  Do you like the Brita water filters that you put the water into the containers and it filters it? Or would you recommend a filter like on actual, I've seen the ones on the sinks? Where they go through that, what do you like better?

• 1:25:40Speaker 01

  It depends what you want to filter. Obviously a $20 Brita filter will not filter the same way than a Vero's osmos system for $2,000. It's, it's, let's, let's be honest, like there's a totally different game plan. It may be filtered something, so the cheapest Brita filter literally just gets rid of chlorine. That's all what that is. It doesn't filter anything else.

• 1:25:58Speaker 05

  Have you seen the ones that have mold? That they like.

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  Nah, the the problem is with filters and you have a point there. The problem is when you have a filter, a filter is nothing other than a sponge. That's what a filter is. So when you don't clean your filter, you have a problem at one point. It's the same, we all know, I think, in our kitchen, we have all the sponges everywhere. You should actually trash them after a week, you need to get rid of them.

• 1:26:21Speaker 05

  Ah.

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  You need to get rid of them. They are like, actually, at one point, they will give more harm than benefits to you.

• 1:26:26Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 1:26:27Speaker 01

  And it's the same with the filter system. So the the huge, the huge problem is that you're thinking, oh, my fridges are built in filter. I have to worry. Okay, when did you change your filter from your fridge? Hmm, never. How old is your fridge? Twenty years. We have a problem. You might be drinking actually now super poisoned water every day. You need to obviously maintain the filters. They're at one point, they're full. So my reverse smoke system, for example, tells me when. It, this this smart system. So sometimes you have to do it by yourself, sometimes you have to read the manuals, they're saying every two or every three months. It really depends what kind of filter. So again, there's no best filter as well, because it depends on your house, what you need to get rid of.

• 1:27:10Speaker 01

  I cannot make a recommendation when I have no clue what's in your house actually for water. But a better filter, a cheap one, is literally just for chlorine. You can even save the money there. Just put your tap water into a carafe, leave it overnight in your fridge, because chlorine is a gas and the green will be gone in twenty four hours.

• 1:27:28Speaker 05

  What do you think of?

• 1:27:28Speaker 01

  For free. Yeah.

• 1:27:30Speaker 05

  Copper water. Have you heard of, uh, like the copper?

• 1:27:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:27:34Speaker 05

  You leave it in.

• 1:27:34Speaker 01

  So copper, copper like silver as well is antibacterial. That means it can actually kill bacteria, what is pretty cool. That's reason in the medieval times, a lot of people use copper silver or copper cups or or silver. Because they knew the benefits that that bacteria will begin killed from that. What is pretty awesome. So to drink, like when you are hiking and you bring your copper, um, glass or something. Obviously, it can kill everything, but the the chance you get sick is lower in that kind of a vessel versus a plastic vessel. What is pretty cool.

• 1:28:13Bunnie XO?

  I love that. Last but not least, I want to ask you about what is going on with the Perrier drama?

• 1:28:19Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. I have several, I have several videos on that. And there you can see as well how a martini can actually turn to, to being a fan of a brand to be, what the fuck?

• 1:28:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:28:30Speaker 01

  And peep that out, please. I don't know if kids are...

• 1:28:32Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no, please, cuss, cuss more.

• 1:28:34Speaker 01

  Okay, you know, but like that is for me, it's so bad what happened there. So the problem was what came out for several years ago already, that they are filtering actually their spring water, what is not allowed under the European law. Of course, when you have spring water, you're not to touch it. There's several regulations what you're allowed to do. For example, you can extract iron, you can add carbonation or extract carbonation and like small little other things like micro bacteria you can kill. You can UV light it or zone it to make sure that micro bacteria will be killed, that nothing will happen in the water. Because let's be honest, when you open a bottle of water and leave it in the sun for like two months, that thing is growing with one billion bacterias. Again, saw a video about some, sorry, idiot guy who had a three month old Fiji bottle,

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  open on his, on his thing and said, "White screen, they're selling us poison." No, dummy, you had a water container open for three months. Yes, there's micro bacteria everywhere where we have, and from water comes life. That's all what that is. That's life, what's created right now. So please don't tell me that Fiji water is telling me crap. No, he had it for three months open. What's happening with your milk in three months? It will grow, it will walk right next to you, the milk container, yeah. Yeah, like really like, come on. No, so what's happening there?

• 1:29:49Bunnie XO?

  Car out, bro.

• 1:29:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. So what's happening with Perrier? So they found out that they're actually filtering their water, what they're not allowed to do under the European law. But they charge premium as a mineral water. And the term mineral water is very regulated on the European law. When it says natural mineral water, you cannot filter. You're not allowed to do certain things, and they did. So they found it out. They found out that they even tried to do a deal with the French government. So this whole drama is actually even in the government, that they try to bullshit around there. And for sure about, I have no clue, obviously internally what happened there, but for sure it's all about money. To try like, come on, I will give you some money and then just...

• 1:30:33Speaker 01

  Hmm, change some laws that we can still do this what we're doing. So now you suddenly see on the Europe, on the American market, Masseur Perrier. And you'll be like, they just rebranded? No, no, it's a different source. But they're not allowed to say anymore, spring water from Perrier. That's, it's forbidden by law. So they had to change it to Masseur Perrier. It's a totally different water, what's in there. And it not even tells you in there. And there, for example, they are untransparent, no water quality report on the homepage. I can't find anything there. I reached out to them once per email and said, can you please tell me where the water's coming from? No response. So that is untransparent what this guy said. They're hiding something. Maybe he should start there.

• 1:31:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:17Speaker 01

  With a water company from America who supports American jobs. Well, like that, again, I'm getting upset.

• 1:31:24Bunnie XO?

  Don't go plaster.

• 1:31:25Speaker 01

  I'm getting dehydrated.

• 1:31:28Bunnie XO?

  Listen, if you drink Perrier, don't drink it, yeah.

• 1:31:31Speaker 01

  It's, it drives me nuts. And I see, every day I see now crazy people talking on the internet about crazy stuff when they have no clue about. And it's so sad because they're scaring others. And, and one more thing about scare tactics. On my channel as well, you will see it. There was a lady doing the fires in Los Angeles, what we had in, in January. She was sitting in her Beverly Hills mansion. You can see her big house. She was completely remodeled. Nothing wrong, nothing wrong with this. I have a lot of friends who are doing this. I don't have any issues with that. Whatever floats your boat, I don't care. But she goes on the internet and says, they're poisoning us. Our tap water is bad because I live in Beverly Hills proper. What she said, proper, nine oh two one oh, proper.

• 1:32:16Speaker 01

  Like, how, how more self like asshole can you be, in my opinion? So she used the TDS meter, she put it into her tap water. And she said, look at this, it's red, look at this poison. Then she used distilled water. And I was like, really? She put now the TDS mean distilled water? Distilled water means obviously zero, because everything is filtered out. Yeah, that's what distilling means. And it was green, obviously. And she's like, there you have it. So I did a deep, first of all, I called her out and I sent her a DM first, I think. You have a little problem there. Like, I'm more than happy to explain what that actually is what you did. And she's like, fuck off.

• 1:32:58Speaker 01

  And I was like, and then I said like, just to give the heads up, I cannot do a debunk video about you on my channel and it will not be pretty. When you're not like, please delete this video because it's a little misinformation. You're spreading fear to others who don't have access to water right now. This is like, it's so wrong on so many levels. And she is again like, I don't care. She's saying, here we go. A day later, that thing went viral, that video what I created, she had to close all her social media accounts. But I feel actually bad, I don't want that. I don't want to call out people and that they have to, that they have to like shut down their socials. I don't want that.

• 1:33:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but you're kind of like the water avenger. And I think that people should be open to being corrected.

• 1:33:42Speaker 01

  You were. You were. You said, hey, maybe there is more. We should actually talk to this guy.

• 1:33:47Bunnie XO?

  I would love to learn and more people who are gonna make videos like that, like you need to be okay with being corrected, especially if we're not professionals.

• 1:33:55Speaker 01

  Because I'm learning as well. When a doctor tells me, Sally Martin, maybe you need to tweak it there because maybe you said something what is from a, from a physician's standpoint, maybe now I'm just like, I wanna learn, I wanna learn that I can be better even. But what I say most, and I'm saying this again as well here on the podcast, please fact check me guys. Please fact check even me. Don't take everything granted what I said. I tried my best to do my research in all abilities, but I don't have a lab at home to run a water quality report for waters. I have to rely on informations.

• 1:34:26Bunnie XO?

  I'm surprised you don't.

• 1:34:27Speaker 01

  Because you just can't do it at home. There's so many factors what could alternate the results that you have to have professional people who are trained for that to do this actually. And that's the reason I have to always relay as well on other informations and I have to trust others. And yes, we need to trust each other because let's be honest, I flew over from Los Angeles over to Nashville today, I had to trust the airline, I had to trust the pilot that he puts me down here safely. My Uber driver was a great person. I loved her so much, she was such a fun girl. She talked to me the whole time and I was sleeping in the back, but she talked the whole time. It was great. She, she like, she had this beautiful voice where I can totally pass off.

• 1:35:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:10Speaker 01

  Because I was a little, I was a little, I was a little tired.

• 1:35:12Bunnie XO?

  Poor thing.

• 1:35:13Speaker 01

  And she was, she was great. And I gave her good tips and everything and I had to rely on her that I can close my eyes and relax a little bit and I know she won't do an accident. So we have to trust certain people. But again, be skeptic.

• 1:35:27Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:35:27Speaker 01

  And when something is too good or too weird, too bad suddenly, maybe there's a background. What I said about the person, what I think is cool that he has an app, but how he's trying to sell his app is not okay, in my opinion.

• 1:35:41Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:35:42Speaker 01

  He's fear mongering.

• 1:35:43Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:35:43Speaker 01

  He pulls out videos about how bad everything is and everybody freaks out. And then, oh my God, I have to pay now. I don't know how much his description is and to to that I know that what water is safe. I've talked to water companies where they said his results are totally different than my results I have at my company. Totally different. So I have no clarity tests. Maybe something is wrong with his tests even. I don't know.

• 1:36:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:05Speaker 01

  I don't know his, I don't know him. He reached out once to me and said to me, I'm sorry, I'm not, I'm not available for you.

• 1:36:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm not, I don't wanna be part of your app.

• 1:36:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:14Speaker 01

  I don't like the business model there.

• 1:36:15Bunnie XO?

  I agree. I wouldn't wanna be a part of it either. Martin, thank you so much for taking the time to sit down with us and go over everything with us and just

• 1:36:22Speaker 01

  Always here for you.

• 1:36:23Bunnie XO?

  Being here and just being such a light to the world and I'm just so excited to get to collab with you more and just watch your journey also.

• 1:36:30Speaker 01

  Definitely. I'm doing a lot of podcasts. It's always funny. I'm doing, I'm a regular on the H3 podcast with Ethan Klein. I don't know if you know him.

• 1:36:37Bunnie XO?

  I, yep.

• 1:36:38Speaker 01

  Uh, with Helen Ethan and it's, it's funny to be there sometimes because they have a huge team, obviously, and they're all talking to each other and and we're always doing some fun videos together and, and I, I love them. I love the family. I love the fans. I love your fans as well because some of them reached out as well and said like, how Martin, this is so cool. I'm such a big fan of you and now you're going to her podcast. My God, two, two worlds collide suddenly. It was so nice to see the, the, the feedback, actually.

• 1:37:06Bunnie XO?

  Awesome.

• 1:37:06Speaker 01

  Of your, of your followers as well.

• 1:37:08Bunnie XO?

  They're sweet.

• 1:37:08Speaker 01

  And that's the reason I said as well, let's go over there. I don't care what it costs. I wanna be here. I wanna talk about you because again, we need to help each other out.

• 1:37:17Bunnie XO?

  I love it.

• 1:37:17Speaker 01

  That's all what it is. And I think that's, as, as, to the end, I would love to say, please, guys, help your neighbor, help your loved ones. Don't scream immediately on the internet when you see something super bad. Let's try to scale back our voices and be a little bit more, feel a bit more com- compare, like, what is the English word for this? It's like, com- com- um, ah, companionship, com-

• 1:37:43Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:37:44Speaker 01

  Compassion. Here we go. That's the word I was looking for. Be a little bit more compassionate to each other because you don't know what happened in their lives, maybe. And you know what happened in my life. So maybe let's understand each other a little bit better.

• 1:37:55Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:37:55Speaker 01

  And then we can talk about our differences, but just screaming doesn't help anybody.

• 1:38:00Bunnie XO?

  Caps lock never gets you anywhere.

• 1:38:03Speaker 01

  Let's be all American and let's help each other out. That's a strong community and that's a strong country.

• 1:38:08Bunnie XO?

  Amen. Thank you so much.

• 1:38:10Speaker 01

  Thank you. Thanks again.

• 1:38:11Bunnie XO?

  Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.