Build Unbreakable Mental Health w/ Jay Glazer

This week, we’re going to talk a lot about an important subject that demands much more attention in times like these. That subject is Mental health and depression They are definitely varying degrees of the spectrum of depression. And if you’ve ever suffered from it, or know someone who has, you know just how misunderstood and difficult that MENTAL HEALTH JOURNEY is. My guest, JAY GLAZER, has been a fixture on Fox Network National Football League broadcasts for almost two decades now. He’s also appeared on several TV shows, including HBO’s Ballers, The League on FX and as an announcer for UFC and Bellator broadcasts. He’s also been very public about his overwhelming battles with anxiety and depression, SHARING HIS STRUGGLES OF “LIVING IN THE GRAY” for all the world to see. I wanted to share his story with you because instead of letting painful depression consume him, JAY FOUGHT BACK. He crawled out from underneath those dark shadows and CHANNELED HIS ENERGY into productive and positive projects, including opening the Unbreakable Performance Center in West Hollywood a few years ago. It has become a training home to many ELITE ATHLETES AND PERFORMERS including Sylvester Stallone, Michael Strahan, Chuck Liddell, Wiz Khalifa, Chris Pratt, Demi Lovato, and many others. An offshoot of that, Jay has also trained more than 1,000 NFL players in mixed martial arts during their off-seasons. But his most IMPORTANT LIFE’S WORK was the creation of a non-profit called MVP, MERGING VETS & PLAYERS, which matches former combat veterans and former pro athletes to help each other through the difficult transition into their new lives away from the battlefields and playing fields. While Jay goes into detail about his heavy battles with depression, he also gives you UNBREAKABLE MINDSET STRATEGIES he used to fight that battle that you can apply in your life as well. I know there are many of you out there struggling with depression on your own, afraid or unable to reach out because you’re wallowing in mental quicksand. You’d be surprised at how many stories I hear that are just like that. If you’re one of those people or know somebody fighting that battle right now, listen to Jay’s story and how he’s BEAT THOSE DEMONS. There are people who care about you, and by listening to this week’s podcast, I hope you’ll realize that YOU ARE LOVED and you are WORTHY of getting the help you need. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:40Ed Mylett?

  All right, welcome back to the program, everybody. I feel like today could be one of the more important shows we've ever done, just because of the time and our culture and the courageous nature of my guest. He's an interesting guy. I met Jay a long time ago. I actually met him in a gym in the Bahamas. And we've got a bunch of really good mutual friends. And I wanted to have Jay on the show back then because of who he is. He's the NFL insider on Fox Sports and on Fox NFL Sunday. He's probably got one of the top five or 10 rolodexes on the planet between, you know, athletes, entertainers, you name it. He's one of the most connected people on the planet. He's got foundation work. He does charity work with a thing he founded called MVP, which is merging vets and players. He's got Unbreakable Performance, which is his training facility. He's just a super, really interesting, connected guy.

• 2:26Ed Mylett?

  But then lately, he's been talking more about what we're gonna talk about today mainly, which is mental health and sort of his, um, his battle with mental health and his, uh, his trying to conquer it. So Jay Glazer, thank you for being here today, brother.

• 2:38Speaker 03

  Absolutely, brother. Thank you for having me, man. You're right. You know, I got to work out and, uh, I mean, how funny is that? The universe gets hard to help us. We're in a gym in the Bahamas and there you are. And I know you were trying to get me on the show there. You know, Unbreakable, what I've done. And, uh, it was just, yeah, there was just, I was a, that was a wild one. Actually, I was down there with, with, uh, an ex-girlfriend now, but my son and a little kid named Logan.

• 3:02Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 3:03Speaker 03

  And Logan, I introduced you, right?

• 3:05Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 3:06Speaker 03

  Do you remember, I don't know if I told you the story or not.

• 3:09Ed Mylett?

  You didn't. You just introduced me, but you didn't tell me that.

• 3:11Speaker 03

  So Logan, Nobrigas is his name. Logan got leukemia when he was, I think, three until he was six.

• 3:17Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 3:18Speaker 03

  And then beat it. And then came back when he was six and a half. And

• 3:22Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 3:23Speaker 03

  Then I, I used to have another foundation called Touchdown Dreams. I met him, uh, but he became like my dude. I was like, I'm gonna walk this walk with this kid until it's, you know, forever. However, however long that is. Well, he ends up beating leukemia again for a second time.

• 3:36Ed Mylett?

  Thank God.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  And he became the welcoming, uh, party at UCLA Children's Hospital.

• 3:42Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 3:42Speaker 03

  And what happened was, um, it was funny, the day he got his port taken out, it just goes to show you like people want to do good things.

• 3:50Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 3:50Speaker 03

  He goes up to UCLA with a Rob Gronkowski jersey. And I called Gronk. I'm like, hey, dude, are you in LA? Like, you gotta come over here right now to gym. Unbreakable. Cause I got, and I tell him the story and he's like, I'll be right over. Like, just incredible. And I called Logan. I was like, hey, Logan, where are you? I haven't seen your report card. I kind of started jumping all over. Where are I? And Logan and his mom, Kirsten's like, well, you better get up there. So he gets up to the gym and he walks in and he sees Gronk and he goes, and he goes, wait, so am I in trouble? Like, no, no, no. But that trip to the Bahamas, I think was the first trip he was able to take after getting his port taken out.

• 4:31Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 4:32Speaker 03

  But took some air for that. But also the crazier part, and this is like in the book, I talk a lot about this, but like you just never know what lies were at next Tuesday. And I brought him into an MVP session, which is, you know, we had about 90 combat vets and former pro athletes together, all on the mat, talking mental health. And I said, Logan, now, the way MVP came about was Logan's grandmother, who was a, her name's Suzie, who was a, she was a therapist for a lot of, a lot of these veterans. So it was kind of their idea.

• 5:08Ed Mylett?

  No way.

• 5:08Speaker 03

  And, yeah, to, like, hey, let's put your football player friends who are struggling, you get in with these vets, let's see if it works. And it was their idea. And here we are with 90 combat vets, many of who attempted suicide before meeting us, and now are just doing great and living their best lives. And I said, Logan, I know it sucks that you had leukemia. I totally know, like, I get it. But if you didn't, we wouldn't have started this charity.

• 5:35Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 5:36Speaker 03

  And I said, if we didn't start this charity, show of hands right now, how many people wouldn't be here right now?

• 5:41Ed Mylett?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 5:42Speaker 03

  And a lot of hands go up in the room.

• 5:44Ed Mylett?

  Did they really?

• 5:45Speaker 03

  And then somebody else said, let's take a step further. If we didn't have MVP, how many of us wouldn't be where we are right now in life? And 90 of the 90 hands go up. And then they started saying, Logan, my name is Denver Morris, who's worked for me now. But he said, I had, he's lost 51 of his teammates to suicide. He lost a lot in Iraq and Afghanistan. And you can call the 520, he said, I myself have attempted suicide three times. MVP saved my life. So Logan, thank you for saving my life.

• 6:20Ed Mylett?

  Oh, my gosh, brother. That's incredible.

• 6:23Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, I'm coming out of the gates hot with you, man, but.

• 6:25Ed Mylett?

  No, it's so good.

• 6:26Speaker 03

  I mean, so that little kid that you met, that was his first trip after. And then the whole room started going around, Logan, I'm such a tough, man, thank you for saving my life. And he turns and he looks at me, goes, I didn't realize that I did all this. I said, no, like, your fight to come through, the fact that leukemia didn't break you, is now saving thousands and thousands less. And it does suck you out of it. But Logan, thank you for saving all of us.

• 6:48Ed Mylett?

  Bro, that's bananas. And I can't believe that I met that little guy with you. And yeah, what you said about breaking, I got, I guess I share this to everybody. We've done shows on mental health before, but I'm, you know, an expert here or there.

• 7:02Ed Mylett?

  Never had someone on who's a well-known, very well-known person who's dealing with it currently in real time. This is why what you're doing right now, bro, even what you've done with Logan and what you've done with MVP and you just make a difference in the world. But I think maybe one of the, he had not had leukemia, the foundation doesn't start, you don't save those guys. I just feel like maybe your mental health struggle, had you not had that, there may be millions of other people, including today, whose lives, you know, may end or be really negatively impacted by not getting some help. So if you guys don't know this, follow Jay on Instagram or Twitter, wherever, on any socials, but he's sort of right now, like live saying, hey, here's my mental health checkup today. I'm doing good. I'm not doing good. And he wrote this book that if you have mental health issues, or you know, anybody who does, which is every single one of us, by the way.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  Especially today.

• 7:47Ed Mylett?

  Especially today. It's called Unbreakable, How I Turn My Depression Anxiety Into Motivation And You Can Too. And there's the cover he's showing for the YouTube folks right now. It takes a lot of courage to do what you're doing, brother. And so I want to kind of get into it if we could, because, you know, I feel like I have a little of the gray. I think there's extremes of everything in life, right? There's degrees, there's spectrums. But you describe like living in the gray. What is the gray?

• 8:12Speaker 03

  I don't know life outside of it. That is the crappy part for me. Like, listen, people looking at me, oh, my God, your life is so great. And damn right it is. My life is great, but not between my ears. My life sucks between my ears. And I keep saying, like, my, my wallet's not an antidepressant. Can I pay my bills better now? Yeah, absolutely. But it does not, it's not rainbows and unicorns when you have the mental health and mental illnesses that I have. I have, my gray is depression and anxiety, and it's from my earliest childhood memories. I don't know any other way. And what the book is, you know, the book is titled Unbreakable, How I Turn My Depression Anxiety Into Motivation

• 8:53Speaker 03

  And You Can Too. I don't allow it to keep me in bed. It is crippling. My level of gray is crippling every day. Like, it sucks having this. It's painful. It sucks. And

• 9:07Speaker 03

  You know, I was telling Strahan the other day, I said, you know, y'all have known about my, you know, my crazy for a long time, but you just didn't know what pain I was in all this, these years, you know, and that's why I lashed out a lot. And that's why I'm not perfect. I'm flawed. I'm an messed up human being.

• 9:21Ed Mylett?

  So am I.

• 9:23Speaker 03

  And, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm up, but I'm good with my upness.

• 9:29Ed Mylett?

  But you, when it hits you, this is what struck me. And by the way, it's an unbelievable book. What's that?

• 9:34Speaker 03

  I don't know when it's gonna hit. Like, that's the problem. Like, I don't know who I'm gonna get every day when I wake up. And even so, like, I could wake up in the morning and the sky is just falling for no reason. And a lot of it, and, and I talk about the motivation. I don't feel worthy of being loved. And I don't, I don't know what it's like to love myself from the inside out. Like, I don't know what that's like. And I'm working on it, man. I'm, I'm like, I'm working. So as a result, I've had to work so hard to do all these great things to get love from the outside in.

• 10:05Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 10:05Speaker 03

  And that's the motivation part. Like, if I didn't, like, I don't use anything as a crutch. And like, I've been hitting the head a lot, right? So I've trained all these MMA fighters and football players for years. And, and I've had a couple of fights myself. And I'm not a good fighter, but I, you know, I've done it. And when you're a crappy fighter like me, you get hit an awful lot more. And I've had a lot of back injuries, a lot of surgeries because of Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell, because they're full training partners.

• 10:34Speaker 03

  But when I walk in a room, instead of like, oh, man, this sucks, like, I'm missing my L4, L5, because it's ruptured four times. And I don't walk in a room, go, this sucks. Or, man, I'm forgetting these people's names. So this sucks. And I'm gonna use it as a crutch. I walk in a room like, you know what? I got this back pain, or I'm having these memory issues, because I did something 99.99999% of the world are unwilling or unable to do. And it didn't break me. Right? So it makes me feel different. And different is good. Different leads to success. So.

• 11:06Ed Mylett?

  Jay, when it hits you, I read, by the way, I read the whole book in a day and a half. Like, I just, it grabbed me because I think always in my family, there's been a little bit of the gray. They tend to the gray. I think there's extremes of it, right? But I just feel like, almost genetically, in my family, maybe there's a little of that. Maybe most people can relate to that a little bit. But what struck me about when you said, it doesn't just affect you, you know, in your mind or your emotions. You actually can feel it sometimes physically. All right? Elaborate on that.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  So when I have. When I have a full blown attack.

• 11:37Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  And it's a lot more than people realize.

• 11:41Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 11:42Speaker 03

  Like, I just had one, I had one last week.

• 11:45Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 11:46Speaker 03

  I couldn't get out of bed until four o'clock. One of my training partners, Mark Kerr, like literally had to come over and I asked him, so I will reach out for help. I, I used to not, I used to have blowups or incidents where I would just sit in my bed, right? And now I will ask for help. I'll call my boy, I'll say, hey, man, I need you to come over today. I've now shared with a lot of my close, very doodly type friends, like guys in the NFL. Man, it's, it's brought us so much closer together. Like, they want to be on this journey, but you're talking about the physical part. I feel it in my heart. I feel it on the left side of my gut.

• 12:19Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 12:20Speaker 03

  But we hear about gut punches or, man, go with your gut. You have a feeling in your gut.

• 12:24Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  My gut feels just, man, like there's, it's hurting, like there's spider webs in there and chains and, and then I feel like I'm in a 50 round fight. Like, I just had a canceled dinner with Strahan because I was like, dude, I just can't go down. I'm just exhausted. I literally felt like I got through a 50 round fight.

• 12:42Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 12:42Speaker 03

  And again, I, I try to make it very, very limited of where it knocks me on my butt. Like, I am relentless in everything I do. Like, I have to be relentless to go after my dreams so I can get that outside love. So, once I make the decision to get out of bed, I go for, like, I am, I will outwork the world. I am relentless, I will train that way and fight that way and live less, live life that way. But getting out of bed, man, when you have these heavy chains pulling you through, down through the darkness. It's a, it's literally, it's hard every, it's hard for me to get out of bed in the morning. But, man, those 15 minutes that I lay my head on my pillow every night.

• 13:23Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  I don't want to get emotional here. Um, because sometimes I do, because I actually kind of look at me and like feel bad for that person and want to give him a hug.

• 13:35Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  But when you lay your head on your pillow at night, you're by yourself, those 15 minutes, and you're with someone that you don't know how to love or like or feel worthy of being liked or loved. Think of that, like, man, that's, that's hard. It's a hard thing. And I'm hoping by this book, like, I know for me, having teammates, again, really, really lifts me up. See, I'm

• 14:04Ed Mylett?

  Brother, I appreciate this very much, man.

• 14:06Speaker 03

  Hey, no one's questioning my man. I'll cry on the drop of [BLEEP] on right here. I'm hoping by this book, I can get a lot more teammates that I could lift up because I could be of service to people, but then they in turn could lift me up because I just, like, I don't deserve to, to lay at night every night and

• 14:25Ed Mylett?

  You don't.

• 14:25Speaker 03

  and look at that person and go, man, such a terrible person, such a horrible person. Like, everybody says, you gotta see all this great stuff you're doing for people. And I'm not able to, to see it because the roommates on my head tell me a much different story about myself. But I've been, I've had a couple of incidents here and there lately now that I started doing these videos, where I've felt it. And I'm 52. And now, just for the first time in my life going, hey, maybe, like, maybe there's a

• 14:53Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, brother. I gotta tell you, I'm emotional listening to you just because I can't get over the courage it takes to be you and share this. And, you know, I just want to acknowledge you for that, bro. Like, I just, it's really interesting. I admired a lot of things about you that were really surface based from a distance because we got a ton of mutual friends. And then, now I'm beginning to admire you for real stuff. And maybe that's where you're going with you.

• 15:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:20Ed Mylett?

  That instead of just being the surface things of who you know, or what you've done, or how hard you can kick or punch, that maybe you're getting there like, hey, man, I'm a good man. I deserve to be happy. Because I think millions of people listen to this are like, I relate to that to some level, that I don't deserve to be loved, or I don't even love myself, or, you know, if they knew all this stuff I've done, or I think, or then they really wouldn't love me. You know, there's all these guilt we carry and shame about stuff. Some of it's nonsense. But the other thing you do Man, it's like, he doesn't just say, hey, man, I'm hurting. He tells you, when it's working, here's some of the things I do that works. And you just said that about your buddy coming over and getting you out of bed. Talk about these three things real quick. You said, I need a team, number one. I need to be in service to others, number two. And I need to laugh, number three.

• 16:05Ed Mylett?

  Right? And so these are like, these are pathways out of getting out of bed. These are pathways to that day, winning the battle, even though you're not going to win it every day. All of us have struggled with any mental health. There are just days we lose. I think, I say this, Jay, about my son. I'm a golfer, I suck. Strahan just played at my club, by the way, Saturday. Maybe that was the night you were going to have dinner with him.

• 16:26Ed Mylett?

  At Madison, he played at the Madison. Yeah. At Melbourne's place, yeah. But my son is a better golfer than me, not because he never hits good shot, bad shots. It's his dispersion. In other words, my bad shot can go 100 yards left or 300 yards right. My sons are 20 yards. It's dispersion. So if you have mental health issues, sometimes it's not, you're never going to have a bad day. It's the dispersion. How bad is the day? Or how many of them are there? And if you can shrink the dispersion of the distance between them, you win. And so you have those three things. Need a team, need to be a service of others, need to laugh. Talk about that.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, you know, that's my, and it's, this is a prescriptive book, right? So I have a couple of different, I have a couple of chapters on, you know, how to have a team, like there's different ways to have a team and how to be of service. Even when I like, this is the first, you'll read it. First 10 years of my career, I was making 9,700 bucks a year, living in New York City. I didn't have enough money to go back and forth from, to take a subway to a bus from New York City to Giant Stadium and then back. So Strahan drove me back in the city every single day for like eight years, which means I own like 26 grand on Lincoln Tunnel Fair. But I worked my. off doing this, but even when I was broke, I knew the things that needed that I needed for

• 17:44Speaker 03

  my own mental health. And we didn't talk about mental health back then, but back then I'm like, I have to be of service. So I figured out ways to be of service, which didn't cost really any money or not much money at all. Where I was able to use my time or just be creative with some people who needed it. So that's in the book. And then the laughter part, oh dude, like I have a whole practical joke chapter because yeah, being, uh, there's a price to be paid for being Jake Glazer's friend because the gray hates laughter. So I'm constantly trying to laugh. And like you said, a lot of the surface stuff, I'm a big personality on TV and out in public, but it's to hide my pain. Like it's, it's part of it is the, um, is that's what I, yeah, I like

• 18:28Speaker 03

  being on TV. I feel safe on TV. I feel safe in a cage. I don't feel safe for the rest of the world. Um, but that's a big person, but a lot of it too, is to just overcompensate for how worthless I always feel. Gosh. Yeah. So for the laughter part, whenever I'm struggling, I struggle a lot on TV and people don't know, you'll, you'll really find out in the book. Yeah. Just how much I have anxiety and panic attacks, um, going into Dan and every show. So if you see me on Fox early, like cracking a joke, I'm actually doing it because it gets me, it gets my, I call it like I wrestle with my abuser. It's those anxiety attacks away. Like it hates laughter. So until I

• 19:09Speaker 03

  could laugh, a lot of times I am like out of my mind. So there's different things with laughter, but, but the team also like, but my team, I have teams in so many different areas and, and like, God is a team for me and my fight team is a team for me and my football family is a team for me. My Fox and above Sunday family is a team for me. My little rescue pit I adopted is a team for me. Like we need teams because what's the biggest thing here? I just said like, Those of us with any sort of mental health stuff, we tend to isolate.

• 19:40Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 19:40Speaker 03

  When you isolate, man, that's scary. That's when the roommates in your head start talking really bad to each other. Right? So you got a team, the roommates in your head will talk a little bit nicer to each other.

• 19:50Ed Mylett?

  It's part of talking about it, Jay, like just your awareness that these roommates are talking. Do they lose a little of their power over you just when you're aware? Like, hey, here I go again. Like, I think for years, some people live in patterns. They don't even know it's happening.

• 20:04Speaker 03

  Oh, I know what happens.

• 20:05Ed Mylett?

  You do. Do you think the awareness, two things. One, does the awareness of it minimize it at all? And two, you're a real physical dude. How important is the physical moving your body? I doubt, maybe I'm wrong. Have you ever been in the midst of like massive physical activity and still felt these things? Or is that also a pathway out for you when you're getting real physical, you're really moving your body?

• 20:26Speaker 03

  Huge pathway. Troy Oakman just posted like, man, if you could, if we could take working out and put it in a pill, it'd be the best antidepressant of all time.

• 20:34Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 20:34Speaker 03

  And it's true. Like you've got it. Like for me, I asked, when I was struggling the last week, I asked Mark Kerr, who's the first ever UFC champion in the world. We need you to come over and we need a spark. Basically, I'm like, give me more CT. I need you to punch me in my head.

• 20:49Speaker 03

  But yeah, like I will force myself to, I will say this, when I'm, when I start some of these workouts, I'm in a really, and I'm in a really bad place.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  Man, it's, it's, it's hard and I can feel it. Again, the physical part, it causes inflammation. So I'm inflamed and my joints are. But as I start getting through that workout, and then as I know I accomplished something. So if you're gonna do the workout, just get through it. Don't cut it short. Get through it because at the end, you just feel better because, okay, I did, I, I was able to fight through my own darkness and get through something today. That's able to push my breaking point a little bit. That's able to fight back against the gray stuff. And you said it before, by the way. It's the gray nowadays, it's not just if I have, if you have depression, anxiety like I do, okay? It's all of us. I just spoke to a room of 75 clinicians.

• 21:40Speaker 03

  And I said, listen, schooling is your expertise. Suffering is my expertise. So the difference is you all went to school before the cell phone came out and before Instagram and Facebook and Twitter. And man, like, it's just such a hard life these days when we're comparing ourselves. I'm look, I'm on the number one TV show, sports show in the history of America, and I still feel freaking left out. Like, I look at somebody else's Instagram, like, damn, my life sucks. How come I'm not doing it? And it's fake. We're comparing ourselves to somebody else's filter. A fraction of a second of one minute of one hour of one day, and we all think our lives suck. And then you look on Twitter and the way people talk to each other.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  And I was just explaining this to John Gordon, your guy John Gordon the other day. I said, think about this, we're kids growing up and, man, you got bullied on the playground. I'm from Jersey Shore, so there's a lot of that going on. It sucked for you for the weekend, right? It was bad. Or if it happened to your friend, it sucked, right? It lasted for a few days. But we now have that same feeling and see that a thousand times a second.

• 22:48Ed Mylett?

  So true.

• 22:49Speaker 03

  You see somebody getting bullied or talked to, and even if it's not about you, it hurts the human condition and it changes us here. So, you know, I asked them all, I said, I need you to kind of almost go back to school and figure out how is the brain morphed? With all this, with all the negative stuff that we see?

• 23:07Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 23:08Speaker 03

  And how left out we're all feeling.

• 23:14Ed Mylett?

  So true. Even I have that, man. I'm checking social media sometimes. I'm like, crap, I thought I had a pretty good gig going here. I'm not doing that. They're having a blast. They're way happier than me. And there's like this fake threshold of happiness that because everyone's taking 80 pictures before they post the one or 100 videos.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  And then filtering it. It ain't real.

• 23:30Ed Mylett?

  It's so funny. I was at dinner the other night and this family was literally arguing, like loud arguing in the restaurant. I'm talking like F bombs back and forth with the husband and the wife in front of the kids.

• 23:40Speaker 03

  Was it my family?

• 23:41Ed Mylett?

  No, that sounds like mine too. And my family I came from, not my current one. But anyway, they're yelling at each other. And then the server comes up and the dad goes, will you take a picture of our family? And it was like hugs and smiles. When you see that post, you're like, this is a loving, wow, what a great dinner. They were literally ready to kill each other 20 seconds before. So you're totally right. Your today's social, man, hit me. And you're hitting me right now. Like, I think vulnerability is one of the most masculine things you can do. Jay's in the most masculine space in football. He's in MMA world. He's with vets. Like, there's a lot of masculinity around this dude. And, and so that's why it takes to me extra courage. But I think oftentimes, our secrets, our vulnerability is our pathway to

• 24:23Ed Mylett?

  serving, which you said earlier, is the pathway to serving other people, to show our weakness is not our strengths. And to say, hey, man, I'm just like you, or maybe there's even things about me that you couldn't even imagine to be true. I almost felt like you found your stride. So you said in the book, I'm gonna quote it, because I wrote it down, "Sometimes our darkest moments become the seed of something beautiful." And you've now gone to social recently going, hey, guys, I'm in the gray today, and posting it. So talk to, just share with them what the heck happened to you yesterday, from you sharing this. This is a public figure on television, you know, getting information from people all the time, and he's still willing to do this. So, go ahead. I know you're gonna cry again, but go ahead.

• 25:01Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. Yeah. And look, again, vulnerability is true strength. Doesn't matter how big our muscles are, it means nothing. It's fake, right? Vulnerability is what, that's what moves mountains, and moves walls, and breaks chains, and breaks bonds off us. And builds bonds, I should say, breaks those chains off us. So, yeah, I started, because when the book came out, obviously, everybody knows we're footballer, fighting the ballers and, and stuff. And we're like, we want people to, you know, really kind of understand, like, this isn't a sports book. This is, you know, there's a lot of sports analogies, because the book's filled with my sports world to get there. But, you know, and the time we had this meeting, we had like another month until the book came

• 25:42Speaker 03

  out. I said, hey, listen, I really want to start helping people now, like, right now. Like, now that I could see, because everybody read it, they're like, oh, my God, you're gonna change the world. And this is great. And I said, well, I'm gonna start helping people now. And I said, you know what? Fuck it. I'm gonna start posting in real time to show people what it's really like, so they know they're not alone. And, yeah, that first one. Man, I got, when I told people this was gonna happen, I'm gonna take a journey with you and show you what it's really like, like, and the goods and the bad. And I want us all like have a team. So I say, you know, post down there. If you're struggling and I want you all to read my comments and lift that person up. And man, that first post did, you know, 700,000 views and hundreds of

• 26:28Speaker 03

  messages where people were sharing and lifting each other. And that's what it's supposed to be. You see me in makeup on TV. You see me dressed up. That's what we all see. We don't ever see like what it's really like. This is what people wake up to. This crap is what we wake up to. Say, I want to be that, that voice. I want to walk this walk for everybody to be there. And, you know, The Rock did my forward. And he's like, you're gonna be the voice for the gray, for all of us in the gray. And that's where, that's why I did it, when it was so powerful. So I've continued to post these, the good times, the bad times, all of it. And it really has been,

• 27:04Speaker 03

  it's been, yeah, it's been just remarkable. And I have not felt as alone because everybody else is now chimed in. Like, when you have these mental health issues, you feel isolated. Again, it's my own roommate saying the wrong things to me in my head. So yesterday,

• 27:21Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  I leave Unbreakable, my gym up in, on Sunset Strip that I have. And I'm going back to my hotel and driving down Sunset Strip on the back of a, of a car service and went back on an Uber. And I pull up to a light right on Sunset and San Vicente. And there's a woman who was in the next truck over and she kind of looks at me and does a double take.

• 27:47Speaker 03

  And she said, thank you so much for here, God. I'm about to start crying.

• 27:54Speaker 03

  She goes, thank you so much for what you've been posting on mental health. I said, oh, absolutely. She said, no, I'm in my car driving right now. Because I was having one of those days in the gray and I listened to your post and I got out and I'm taking a drive basically so she doesn't isolate. I was like, I can't believe that you just pulled up next to me.

• 28:14Ed Mylett?

  Crazy.

• 28:15Speaker 03

  Said unbelievable. Oh my God. And.

• 28:21Ed Mylett?

  That's God, man. I think that's God. That's you planting the seeds and that's the harvest from God. That's what I believe.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  I couldn't believe, I said, oh my, she said, thank you. I like, I can't believe you're, but you're the reason that I'm driving around right now to clear, to clear my, get out of the isolation. And I posted it today and she posted and said, that was me. That was me. And she actually, crazy enough, she works in sports too.

• 28:44Ed Mylett?

  No way, man.

• 28:45Speaker 03

  And so it's online. Go, go look. I was just like, oh my God. And now she just like DM'd me. I said, well, now you're stuck with me. So we're good. But.

• 28:52Ed Mylett?

  It's, I don't think, and I think Jay, I want to say something to everybody about this. Not to interrupt you, just because it's so powerful. I don't think you have to be Jay Glazer to do this. What if we started, what if we started to look at social media differently? What if a lot of us started to post, hey, I'm in the gray today. Here's what I'm struggling with today. For some of you, if you really wanted to build a following, if you had an ulterior motive, which is okay, people would rather have you document your journey than just post filtered pictures of yourself. So even if I wanted to do something where you wanted to build a following, I can promise you, you start to share your struggles and your vulnerabilities, no matter who you are. You're, you're, you're, uh, right now raising a couple of babies at home and you're a mother and you start showing the, the, the struggle in the morning to get them off to school and to get things ready and get to your job and how all that affects you. And maybe some days you're not feeling fulfilled or appreciated.

• 29:37Ed Mylett?

  I'm telling you, you would help more people that way than showing this great steak dinner you had with a bottle of wine with everyone that everyone else is posting. Don't you agree?

• 29:47Speaker 03

  I'm, I have a friend named John Mullin, who was one of my mentors when I started becoming a sports reporter for the New York Post, which I totally like scam my way into back then. I have no writing career. It's, it's all in the book for my nine grand a year. But John covered the bearish for years and years. And John right now is fighting a bad cancer battle. And I said to him, hey dude, what you gotta do here, like me, again, how could we be of service? Like I told him, it really helps me to be of service. I said, John. And he's going through like pancreatic and stomach cancer and I said, I said, have you found anywhere online to like, to look to see like what you're about to, you know, embark on? He's like, no, I said, why don't you be that guy? I said, why don't you start journaling?

• 30:29Speaker 03

  And why don't you start doing videos? So other people who are about to battle this kind of cancer, now at least have your videos. They know what they're getting themselves into, and they can walk this walk with you. And he started doing that.

• 30:40Ed Mylett?

  It's awesome.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  And that, that's what, exactly, a million percent. And he started putting it on YouTube. And now if someone has it, they can Google it or look it up and it'll, it'll come up. And he's still, he's still fighting it, still battling.

• 30:52Ed Mylett?

  God bless him.

• 30:53Speaker 03

  And God bless him. He's, he is the best. But he's going to help a lot of people. And that's the same thing. Like, if, you're right, like, how many more pictures could we see people freaking, at the, at the beach with some, what sunset or whatever, you know? Or, or that, or a dinner party where they actually hate each other.

• 31:11Ed Mylett?

  Right. And then, by the way, even if you know, even if your motive was to grow your social, I can just tell you guys all this. No one's going to share a post of you eating a steak with a bottle of wine. But you start saying, this is what I'm struggling with my weight, or my relationship, or my emotions, or my mental health. You might be surprised how much people start to share your stuff. Because every day, people, that's what social media really should be for, is people helping one another on social. So I just, the fact that it's you, it takes, I think, and I think anyone to do it takes an extreme amount of courage. But when you're at the top and people look at you, I think there's another layer of courage that you're embodying right now that I just, I love. And you're doing it again today on the show. So I just want to acknowledge that. Now, there's another side to Jay, by the way, which is not just the mental health side. There's a man who struggled

• 31:55Ed Mylett?

  for decades to build a career. There's not a lot of spots for what Jay does on the planet. There's like, a couple, right? So this is a dude who's worked his way to the top of his profession. He's humble, but it's just a fact. And, you know, not everybody can go, hey, Dwayne Johnson, write the foreword of my book, right? Or, hey, you know, stray in, I got to cancel dinner on you, right? And to be on television every single week. And so, he's worked his way to be an achiever at the highest of all high levels. And you have this thing in the book, and if you can cover some of it, I'd appreciate it. The unbreakable mindset. There's like, five things you share in the book. And I'm reading it. I'm like, yep, that's true. Yep, that's true. Yep, I did that. So would you share a couple of those points, at least? Well, maybe not all of them, so they can go get the book. But what are a few of the unbreakable mindset points?

• 32:39Speaker 03

  Well, there's two. There's unbreakable mindset for how we train guys and the unbreakable mindset in life. But yeah, like for my life, again, I made ninety seven hundred bucks a year for the first ten years. So I just walk in that New York Giant locker room in nineteen ninety three. I'm like, I'll be the last dude standing here. If I will outwork the world, not by a little, but by a lot. So if they're working nine to five, I'm gonna come in at six or seven AM and leave until whenever Strahan drives my [BLEEP] back to the city, which is usually seven at night. So I'm putting in twelve hours, not eight hours, right? And man, how could I be different? Like going there, you know, gotta be authentic. And you gotta be different. Like different is good, different least is success. I tell our vets this all the time, like, hey, don't just be a face in the crowd, be the damn crowd.

• 33:21Speaker 03

  Like stand out, be the crowd. That's the, the, the part of success. But, you know, getting there, people see me now. Right? Yes, I'm the, our sports show, our show is the only sports show ever in the TV all event. And what we didn't see is the, is the ten years of me saying, all right, I'm gonna get rejected more than any human being on the planet. And, you know, I talked about a team, like God being one of my team, part of my team. And it's like, look, I'm a big God guy. It's my, my choice to have faith. You, you know, that's on you, but it doesn't really hurt you that I have faith. That's a great point.

• 33:55Speaker 03

  And I would literally say to God every week, listen, I'm gonna go after, I'm gonna do it. I'm, I'm willing to get rejected over and over and over and over. All I'm asking for you, God, is that when I do get knocked out, you pick me up, you brush me off, let's keep walking, let's walk together. And I got it. So man, listen though, ten, eleven years of being rejected.

• 34:17Speaker 03

  That's, you know, and me saying, when I said I'll be the last dude standing there, I meant it. That's horrible. That's swimming upstream for a long time. That is exhausting. And then when I finally got there. I became the first minute by minute breaking news guy in America, me and a guy named Len Pasquarelli, when that internet thing came out, which I think is gonna catch up. And that was like, there was no crawl on the bottom of the screen before, like, everything was newspapers. So we're the first one to use the internet to break news by the second. And then Chris Mortensen jumped in on that, and John Clayton, and then it became a bigger thing. But this is 99, I was breaking news in the internet, and then made it what it

• 35:02Speaker 03

  is now, which is everything is minute by minute breaking news. But that was exhausting, because it's me versus ESPN. And then I'm like, okay, I gotta now show the world that I'm breaking this and this to try and continue to move up the ladder. So, listen, being successful, it's exhausting. There's no get rich quick scheme. There's no overnight success that's completely full of crap. It's you outworking the world, not by a little, by a lot. And being, my other thing is loyalty. And my dad taught me, if you outwork the world and you're loyal, your dreams will come true. So, over time, we talk about these teams, because of my loyalty, I've been able to have a lot of these relationships. You know, I can't

• 35:43Speaker 03

  do it myself, I need the relationships. Loyalty is a lost art.

• 35:48Ed Mylett?

  It's one of the chapters, everybody. I think it's the second chapter.

• 35:52Speaker 03

  Everybody wants something from somebody. Okay, here's the difference. I just look at it and go, man, how can I help out this person, this person, this person? And I'm hoping 10% of them, 15% do the same back for me. And if I do that, then I got a pretty good little mafia.

• 36:08Ed Mylett?

  Yep. That's the true called law of reciprocity, everybody. It's really weird, because you wrote the book, and I'm like, most people wouldn't talk about it. For me, like, one of the most valued traits, I don't know if it's the way I was raised or what, but like, loyalty is a massive thing to me. And when you go through real crap times, you figure out, really, that is a, you called it a lost art form. It is a really lost art form in today's world, right? People run from you. I'll never forget, man, I was playing flag football when I was in the eighth grade. This guy's name was Tom McManus. He got tackled, right? And he separated his elbow and it was horrible looking. And right when it happened, it was gory. He was screaming. And I remember watching, everyone just naturally ran away from him as kids, like ran away.

• 36:51Ed Mylett?

  And I remember me and one other dude, I stood there and I looked at him and I moved towards him.

• 36:55Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 36:55Ed Mylett?

  I remember this is in the eighth grade. Cause he was, it's excruciating pain. Everyone physically ran from him. And I remember like, as I was over there kind of comforting the guy and they called an ambulance. I remember thinking, I kind of want to be this guy. I'm in eighth grade. I want to be that guy all my life. I'm going to run towards the dude who's hurting, not run away from him.

• 37:13Speaker 03

  And that's a decision you made. That's very cool. That's the thing also, it's, it's our choices, right? What do we decide? You decide to be that guy. I'm going to go to it. And you know what? I always say, there's only a few times in life you find out who you really are. And you found out that day who you really were.

• 37:28Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 37:28Speaker 03

  You don't know more than you do. It's pretty cool.

• 37:31Ed Mylett?

  What's this deal with next Tuesday? I just feel like it was so good in the book that you could share this with everybody. Like guys, I think this might be like, I want you to really, if you're driving, really listen right now. Cause I think this is profound.

• 37:42Speaker 03

  That's what I said to the girl when she pulled up next to me.

• 37:46Ed Mylett?

  You did.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  You never know what lies around next Tuesday. As in, like with Logan, like man, Logan, it sucked. You had leukemia. But you fought it and beat it. And now because of that, you have helped start a foundation where thousands of veterans have not committed suicide or have gotten jobs or we have, we have hired a bunch of, a bunch of our hires and MVP were homeless when we met them. Now have jobs and homes and man, so Logan, it sucked. You went through that. But again, like if you didn't, they wouldn't be where they are. And these are kids and husbands and wives and daughters and sons and soon to be fathers and mothers and you know,

• 38:30Speaker 03

  and I said that to this girl yesterday, like, hey, you never know what lies around next Tuesday. As in,

• 38:36Speaker 03

  Man, you never know something that you're working for. All of a sudden it just pops next week, or you meet the love of your life next week, or you learn how to give yourself a break next week. Like, I guess it's my way of saying hope, and it's faith.

• 38:49Ed Mylett?

  Bingo, yes.

• 38:51Speaker 03

  Right? You just never know what lies around next Tuesday. If we're all sitting there just in the present and feeling so crappy about ourselves, it's hard to get ourselves out of it. But if you have hope that, hey, you know what? I don't know what lies around that corner.

• 39:04Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 39:04Speaker 03

  You have no idea, right? So I had those 10 years where I didn't get a job. I kept saying this, "Next week, next week will be that week. Next week will be that week."

• 39:12Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  And finally, when I got the full-time job, and it's funny, my agent, Lori Goss' friend, calls me. I'm on a little driving range in Randall's Island, I was living in the city.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  And my agent called me, again, 10 years in of making $9,700 a year in New York. That sucks. And the book starts with how crappy my apartment was, with Strahan trying to go to the bathroom and he couldn't, right?

• 39:34Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  You couldn't put the bathroom door. You had the refrigerator blocked, true story.

• 39:42Speaker 03

  My agent calls, he's like, "Hey, you can exhale." I said, "What?" He said, "We finally got you a full-time job." I said, "What?" So we find, again, this is 10 freaking years in. And I said, "Oh, my God, who?" And he said, "CBS." And I said, "I'll take it." And he said, "Don't you want to know how much for?" I said, "I don't give a [bleep]."

• 40:03Ed Mylett?

  Right, right.

• 40:06Speaker 03

  It validated me all those years, like, I was gonna work my [bleep] off till something happened that next Tuesday.

• 40:12Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 40:13Speaker 03

  Right? And when I walked in that entire locker room, said, "I'm gonna be different than everybody else in here, and I'm gonna outwork them all." And whoever said quitting's not an option, it's the biggest moron on the planet. It's the easiest option in the world. It sits there all day long. That was my moment, it validated me.

• 40:31Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. And if anybody ever asks you whether it was worth it, it's a thousand times better than even you thought it could be. Once you finally get there, I think, don't you?

• 40:39Speaker 03

  That moment is.

• 40:40Ed Mylett?

  That moment.

• 40:41Speaker 03

  And would I have done this for another 20 years until I got it? Yes. Like, suggest is not overnight. It just, it's not. It's the consistency and it's that consistent loyalty and consistent hard work.

• 40:51Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 40:51Speaker 03

  And, you know, there's a reason why people are successful because they're willing, you know, they're willing to put the hours in when no one's watching.

• 40:58Ed Mylett?

  Yep. When there no one's watching. And the other thing too about quitting that's really interesting is people think you have to make a decision to never quit. But actually what you have to do, my dad stopped drinking for like 35 years. And I used to say, hey daddy, when I was little, are you never going to drink again? And my dad would say, I'm not drinking today. He did it one day at a time. So you're thinking about quitting, just don't quit for today. If you can't get out of bed, just get out of bed today. Just get out of bed today because you never know what's coming next Tuesday. I just feel like that's one of the great analogies I've ever heard in my damn life. And it's buying yourself another day. You know, sometimes thinking, I gotta make this massive life thing come in. Listen, you have big lifetime goals and then execute today. Don't quit today. Stay in the hunt today. Take care of yourself today. Serve other people today. Right? Stay engaged today. Stay loyal today. And when you start stacking

• 41:42Ed Mylett?

  up those days, and it may sound corny, but you start stacking up those days over eight or 10 or 12 years, there's gonna be that day where you get that call. There's that moment.

• 41:51Speaker 03

  And then, you know, I, again, I said, I'm a big faith in God, guys. So I read, kind of like my prayer books, where they work for me, guys. And I learned something in there. It said, appreciate the toil of the climb. Appreciate the toil of the climb.

• 42:06Ed Mylett?

  So good.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  And so what I decided way back when was, okay, the pot of gold at the end of Rainbow is not becoming Jay Glazer at the NFL or Fox. It's not becoming Jay Glazer, all our, you know, the, all the other shows that I do. The pot of the end, pot of gold at the end of Rainbow is the journey itself.

• 42:26Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 42:27Speaker 03

  I never knew I was gonna get there. So I literally started saying, man, this is cool. I get to go to a press conference. While not making any money, it's pretty, pretty damn cool. And that, and look, if, if the...

• 42:40Speaker 03

  You know, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow was, was, was the jobs that we got or our big breaks or something like that. You wouldn't have all these celebrities having all these issues. You wouldn't have people killing themselves who were at the top. So it's not that. So I want people to appreciate the journey and not consider yourself a failure. You're comparing yourself to what somebody else has done. The journey is the beautiful part. And you know what?

• 43:04Ed Mylett?

  So true.

• 43:05Speaker 03

  I probably was happier back then in the journey. Cause I didn't have any, I didn't have the pressure of losing what I have now.

• 43:12Ed Mylett?

  That true.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  Or if I was gonna lose it, right? So.

• 43:15Ed Mylett?

  It's one of the realest things ever. When you're climbing, you've got these emotions that you won't get there. And when you get there, it switches. I've had, you know, Sebastian Maniscalco, who I know you know on my show, one of the funniest dudes on the planet, right? But best like going where he goes, now I worry about losing it. And that's part of it. And that's just part of, but I think the journey part, guys, I would just add to what Jay's saying. For me, it's not what's happening to me. It's what's happening in me as I'm going through that journey. It's the moments, it's the memories, it's the, hey, man, eventually I've made a difference here. I've contributed. And you say this with the vets. So he's got this MVP, which is getting the, the athletes with the vets, right? And one of the things that there's this huge suicide rate, depression rate. There's a little thing you said in there. I just want to have you elaborate on it.

• 43:57Ed Mylett?

  So I want to make sure I understood it where their identities were tied to being warriors. Right? And then when that's taken, this happens, as you know, with a lot of athletes. Their identity is I'm a wide receiver for the Eagles. You take away NFL, they don't know who they are. You take away they're not in combat anymore. They don't know who they are. And maybe it's even something that I'm, uh, and I'm a, I'm a mother. And then your children leave because they've grown up and now you no longer are a mother. And you've tied your identity to what you do as opposed to who you are. And this is one of the things you work on with the vets. And I imagine you're doing that work with yourself too.

• 44:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, here's the biggest thing is I'm trying to get them all to understand, especially like our vets, they are ingrained to not have individuality. Well, MVP is to get them through the transition. The only way you're going to get through the transition, the rest of us, everybody else lies on their resume. Veterans done theirs down, like they don't want to brag about their stuff. I'm like, no, I need you like, I will hire someone in two seconds. And so like, I guess our guy Denver, they had a bridge that got blown up and then Iraq by these suicide bombers. He pulled nine people out of this bridge and it took him three years to tell us this. I'm like, dude, dude, kidding me? Like another guy, Ellen Ruiz helped save all these American POWs.

• 45:09Speaker 03

  The first ever African American female POW, him and his crew, when he got injured and he was like the first MVP I ever, ever helped. A lot of these vets, they are ingrained not to have individuality. And like I tell them all, they've done incredible things and they're grace under fire, courage under pressure. And they've been loyal and you know, taking care of their brothers and sisters on the right and left. The uniform comes back and they come here and they're like, oh, I'm different with their head down. And I want to switch that tone to know you're different. Different is good.

• 45:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 45:42Speaker 03

  Different leads to success, as I said before, right? And our football players or athletes, they always, man, their uniform comes off and they're like, oh, I used to play in the NFL. Or I used to fight or I used to be an Olympian. Oh, so you always will be that person. You are the, and that, that's not who you are. Your uniform's not who you are. What's behind your rib cage? That got you to beat out millions and millions and millions.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 46:06Speaker 03

  To play on that level, that's who you are. That's only doesn't let you just leave when the uniform comes off.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Oh, bro.

• 46:11Speaker 03

  Who reminds them of this?

• 46:12Speaker 02

  Bro, that's very good.

• 46:14Speaker 03

  So that's what we're reminding you at. And I want everybody to say like, there's something that makes each one of us different. We got us, we got it in us. We've got to be proud of it and use it and walk a room like I'm not like everybody else here. And every single person listening at home has something, they've got something. They've just got to realize it's and not beat it back down. My vets don't like when I say, I need you to start bragging about your shit.

• 46:39Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 46:39Speaker 03

  Cause oh no, we don't, we don't brag. It's not bragging if it's true.

• 46:42Ed Mylett?

  That's right.

• 46:43Speaker 03

  Right? And a Deion Sanders would never say, oh, maybe I'll pick off that pass. Right? Wouldn't say, I might knock that guy out. Like, no, I'm knocking your ass out. I'm picking that pass off. And our vets aren't ingrained to do that. It gets them so uncomfortable. My job is to help them to transition.

• 47:02Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 47:03Speaker 03

  Right? And a lot of times they get really uncomfortable and push back with how I say this stuff because it's they've had all these years of, nope, you don't talk about it. You're just team, team, team, team. Okay. Well, that team's not there for you. So now we need to build a new team for you and a team that could lift you up from the inside out.

• 47:20Ed Mylett?

  Bro, I think that's true of all people. I think it's a microcosm. Most people don't embrace their individuality. They almost suppress their differences. Their different emotions, their different thoughts. Brother, I have to tell, I'm gonna ask you one more question because we're pressed on time, but like I just, first I want to thank you for today because I know we've helped millions of people. Actually, may I amend that. You've helped millions of people today. And, and because of your courage and the example of what he's doing is what I want everybody to take from today. Obviously there's the tools and the resources and the thoughts and the strategies and all the stories you've heard, but it's also what he's embodying, the service, the different things he's done, the vulnerability, the guts it takes to go, hey, I'm struggling with this right now. You know, the 10 years of work to get there finally to break 10 grand in frigging income.

• 48:02Ed Mylett?

  All these things this man's done is just, it's remarkable. So the last question is a simple one. It's just like, I want to make sure we covered everything and we didn't lose, miss something. I'm someone listening to Jay Glazer right now. I'm like, hey, man, thank you. I'm following you now. I'm gonna be doing my own mental health checkups. I'm probably gonna start to share about whatever my thing is. Might even be mental. It might be physical, emotional, whatever. Anywhere I'm struggling, I'm somewhere gray. I'm somewhere anxiety, depression, frustration, fear, right? Lack of self-confidence is a huge one for most people.

• 48:31Speaker 03

  And by the way, we all got fear.

• 48:33Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  We all got fear. There's no shame in that.

• 48:36Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 48:36Speaker 03

  Zero.

• 48:37Ed Mylett?

  So, so what would your message be? Here's just a place to start, man. Like you're there today. You listen to the show. Maybe the show, maybe you feel a little bit better. Here's just one additional thing, sister or brother, that you should think about or do.

• 48:50Speaker 03

  Well, it's two things. One, yes, definitely start talking to your people about this. Get too closer together. I didn't start like. I didn't tell Strahan that I had a breakdown till two months ago. The first time I ever told him.

• 49:03Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 49:04Speaker 03

  He's been my best friend for 30 years and he actually said to me, and I told him how to get out of dinner. He goes, oh, do you uh want me to come over? I'm like nah. Said, you want to talk about it? I said nah. And he goes, why have you never told me about this?

• 49:16Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 49:17Speaker 03

  I said, I don't make the rules of this thing, bro. It, it, man, for some reason with you, I felt ashamed. Maybe because he and I compete so much. I don't know. Then I went to the Super Bowl last year and really struggled. I went down, um, cause one of my other really close friends, Ronde Barber, we have a little crew. Me, Ronde, Scott Brian, Rattigan, Ben Helf, Helfman, and I need to be around football, right? But I want to go and I told them I'm struggling. I need to look up you guys. Like, what do you mean? Cause they just see the laughy jokey glaze all the time.

• 49:46Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  And I sat there with them and I told them and it got us so much closer together. And so open up to, and even people like, if you read the book, you'll see the way I describe my depression and anxiety. By trying to teach Sean McVay, the head coach of the Rams, what living in the gray is like. He doesn't get it. He doesn't understand it to this level. He does now and he allowed me to recreate the entire dinner that we had, me, him and Andrew Whitworth, about what this darkness does. The darkness can fuel us to do great things.

• 50:23Ed Mylett?

  Sure.

• 50:23Speaker 03

  Right? But we gotta keep the monster in the box a lot of times. So there's ways to use it to motivate you, to do great things. So call your people, tell them about it. When you're struggling, don't think it's ever too much, cause it's not. Cause they want to help you. It allows them to be of service to you. And that's my other thing. Figure a way to be of service, whether it's you like dogs, or you want to help the elderly, or children, or whatever. And there's a bunch of ideas in the books of what you could do, what I've done, what you could do. But being of service will then help you immensely. And that, that's real. Not the other stuff. That's real, right? Not the filtered Instagram moments. That's real.

• 51:03Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. You're real, bro. This was a remarkable conversation. I knew we were gonna have a good talk today, but I don't know that we were going all these places, man. Like, I love you, brother. I'm really, you know what I am? We're just getting to know each other pretty well. Like, I'm proud of you. I'm really proud of you and I hope. I hope you're proud of you, man.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm getting there, man. I'm trying.

• 51:21Ed Mylett?

  Good.

• 51:22Speaker 03

  I'm proud of that moment yesterday when I hear

• 51:24Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 51:25Speaker 03

  people like you say, man, you're gonna like, again, being a service for me, it where I gotta get better is that a moment like this, it makes me feel good in the moment.

• 51:35Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  But I'm trying to build those moments where I have, where I'm not stuck in the pit down there.

• 51:41Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 51:41Speaker 03

  Of hopelessness. I now up on a my own platform. So I'm trying to build these building blocks.

• 51:46Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. Shrink your dispersion in between how many times it happens and how deep it happens. And by the way, I, I submit my name to be on your team. So anything you ever need, bro, you got my number. You know that and I'm here for you. So.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  Right back at you, man. Thank you.

• 51:59Ed Mylett?

  And you've been on a lot of millions of people's a team today. So Jay Glazer, thank you, guys. Go get Unbreakable. Follow Jay on social.

• 52:05Speaker 03

  All right. You got it. Tell me how you got it.

• 52:06Ed Mylett?

  Where do you get it? Where do you want us to get it? Amazon? Anywhere they get a book?

• 52:09Speaker 03

  Barnes and Noble, Harper Collins, anywhere you want to buy a book, it is right here.

• 52:14Ed Mylett?

  Go get it, guys. He's holding up for the YouTube watchers and for everybody else, share today's show for anyone you love and care about who's dealing with any of these issues. So that we can spread the word and maybe they'll pick up the book as well. So God bless everybody.

• 52:27Speaker 03

  We need to walk this walk together.

• 52:28Ed Mylett?

  We'll all walk it together. Max out, everyone. God bless you.

• 52:32Speaker 03

  Appreciate it, man.

• 52:32Ed Mylett?

  This is the Ed Mylett Show.