A Tiny Plot: "Rocked" EP 4

Mama D, President Matt, and the rest of the group are finally seeing their experiment in co-governance take shape. They built their security sheds and saw their tiny homes for the first time. But when Nino Parker stepped onto the sidewalk in a neck brace, on crutches, it was clear that the group was about to face a whole new level of chaos. This episode contains strong language & graphic imagery. Please take care while listening. Thank you to the entire cast from A Tiny Plot for sharing your story with us. A Tiny Plot https://www.kqed.org/pressroom/12582/a-tiny-plot is a new 5-part series from KQED https://www.kqed.org/’s Snap Studios, hosted and produced by Shaina Shealy. Edited by Anna Sussman, original music by Renzo Gorrio, engineering by Pat Mesiti-Miller. Director of Production: Marisa Dodge. Executive Producers: Glynn Washington and Mark Ristich. Artwork: Teo Ducot. Special thanks: Jen Chien, Catherine Winter, the City of Oakland, Sweetie at the Travel Inn, Ryan Finnegan, Will Craft, JP Dobrin, Thomas Brouns, Sukey Lewis, Alistair Boone, The Street Spirit, KQED legal, and Ott House Audio. Episode 4 of 5. Listen on any podcast platform, right here on Snap Judgment! Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices https://dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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• 2:19Speaker 01

  From KQED's Snap Studios, this is A Tiny Plot.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  This episode contains strong language and graphic imagery. Sensitive listeners, please be advised.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Welcome back to A Tiny Plot, a story told in five parts. I'm your host, Shaina Shealy, and this is Chapter Four. When we left off, Mama Dee and President Matt and the rest of the group were finally seeing their experiment in co-governance take shape. They built their security shed and saw their tiny homes for the first time.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can move in today, man. Wow. Yeah, you could. Let's see. I mean, I don't know.

• 3:08Speaker 03

  No wits of one, sad, black, so sad, so hard. Take down the goddamn fence.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  But when I saw Nino Parker in a neck brace on crutches, it was clear that the group was about to face a whole new level of chaos.

• 3:26Speaker 03

  Thanks to your wonderful Adam Garrett Clark assaulting me.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  From KQED's Snap Studios, I'm Shaina Shealy. This is A Tiny Plot, Chapter Four, Rocked.

• 3:48Speaker 01

  That day I saw Nino on crutches, everyone knew something had happened, but none of us were sure what, until Adam told us about this hectic moment at the site a few days ago.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  I just had three people yelling at me. And Nino cleverly saunters up to right here and says, you know what? I'm gonna tell you blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was thinking about COVID. I was thinking about going to my wife's parents' house, who are 70, later that night. And so I pushed him out of my face. So I've been preaching to you guys, ignore it, hold your cool, and then I fucked up. I lost my cool.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  The city did an investigation into the incident. And then they took Adam off the project. They canceled his contract. That's it. He was out.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  So, in the name of full disclosure, journalism, I guess I'm gonna record some of my initial thoughts on this situation.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  He sent me this voice note after he got the news.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  I feel pretty chewed up, spit out, feel pretty raw. And I feel a lot of shame and guilt around giving the city a chance to pull the plug on this. Yeah, I just feel like a big punch in my gut.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  If I'm honest, this is the point in my reporting I thought this story would end. I couldn't see a way in which this group would move themselves out of the motel and onto their new site, all without Adam.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  So I get ready to head over to the Travelin' for one last meeting, where Adam's been asked to try to facilitate a sort of handoff of leadership. Then I get a call. A manager at the city's homelessness services department, Laura Tenenbaum, is asking me not to record the meeting, or even attend it. Adam said he told her that wouldn't be possible. He'd be recording regardless. It's what the residents want, and that I would be there too, recording.

• 6:17Speaker 04

  We got some name tags today, baby.

• 6:20Speaker 01

  When I show up at the motel, Mama Dee is making name tags for everyone. There are a lot of people here that I don't recognize. Adam pulls his pickup truck into the Travelin' parking lot and walks up to the balcony with a hard smile. Laura begins to unload a bag of fried chicken, and I realize what's about to happen. City staff are here to gently make a handoff from Adam to the new people they've chosen to run the experiment. Mama Dee knows what's up.

• 6:53Speaker 04

  Ain't nobody coming and running shit for us.

• 6:55Speaker 01

  I take a seat with the residents next to Mama Dee in the circle of benches and chairs. Mama Dee raises her hand.

• 7:02Speaker 04

  Would anybody in our community like to know why? Adam's contract is being canceled? Yeah.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Laura says she doesn't have to give a reason why they cancel a contract. And for the last time, Adam tries to save this meeting from erupting.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  I'm proud of the work that we've done. I think there was a lot of beautiful visions that we worked on. It's sad that we don't get to fulfill them, but you guys are what makes this a community. It's not me. And there's a possibility that if you guys work together, you can still realize the vision. I'll be here for questions, but yeah, I'll let Laura take it over.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  Adam sits down and turns the meeting back to Laura.

• 7:41Speaker 03

  Oh, hi Laura.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  This is our meeting. It's not sort of like, yeah.

• 7:48Speaker 05

  Sure, it's not, it's actually gonna happen?

• 7:49Speaker 01

  We're very pleased to have you here.

• 7:51Speaker 05

  Thank you, thank you.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  And then Laura makes an announcement that changes all the rules, all the agreements. She says they're replacing Adam with the nonprofit that runs Lakeview Village next door, which is not at all co-governed.

• 8:07Speaker 05

  Which is the agency that Shell and Kevin record is gonna take over in the role.

• 8:12Speaker 01

  The writing is on the wall. I see Matt's face harden as Laura explains.

• 8:17Speaker 03

  Temporarily or what? Because in my understanding with the co-governed model, this is the critical issue is the governing agency.

• 8:34Speaker 06

  I let you ask a question. I just want to know, does anyone know the definition of a co-governed community?

• 8:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, I actually have a definition, which I can't quote from memory, but I can email it to you guys.

• 8:44Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 8:44Speaker 05

  But it's basically, it says when a community comes together and decides kind of how they want to run it together in community. And then it lists a bunch of aspects of that that the residents would come up with.

• 8:57Speaker 06

  Okay, so we're actually treated like... We're just idiots to sit there because we always need somebody to speak up for us. Like, we're not able-bodied people to speak for ourselves, okay? I've got a college just case, he does too, and so does a few other people here. It's not that we're just a bunch of zombies here following instructions from other people that have nothing to do with our community, okay? You guys are officials that have pulled the strings, but still, we are the ones that are supposed to be co-govern. We're the ones that stood up and blockaded the city from coming in there kicking our shit. And they did anyway, but we blocked them, okay?

• 9:39Speaker 06

  But I'm really, really getting sick and tired of this word "co-govern" because co-govern to the city is basically run like a dictatorship. You got to do what they say or you don't get shit. You know what I'm saying? Excuse my language. But I'm fed up. I was two days over there, still two days, busting my ass over there, but yet we still don't have any water, we still don't have no... I don't understand what to say.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  There's still no running water at the site, something they thought they had agreed on. No toilets, no showers. All of these agreements that are foundational to co-governance are falling through, and now, they're about to lose Adam, their one advocate who had the ear of city staff. There's just so much uncertainty. Tim says he's out and walks out of the meeting.

• 10:33Speaker 06

  You know, it's like we're children.

• 10:35Speaker 04

  We're stand-ins. We're just here, and it's not the way it was supposed to be.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  As the meeting ends and people file out, Adam stays behind. He folds up the chairs and brings the whiteboard back to the motel storage room. And then he gets into his truck at the Travelin' parking lot and drives away. And I think, if this project is going anywhere, it's entirely up to the residents alone.

• 11:03Speaker 04

  And now we're weakened because everybody's unsure about everything and unsure about our standing and unsure about what's gonna happen.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  What is going to happen? Stay tuned to find out.

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• 13:39Speaker 01

  Welcome back to A Tiny Plot, Chapter 4. I'm your host, Shaina Shealy. We left off in a moment of uncertainty. With mere weeks left before the city cuts off their motel room funding, I show up at the site and start talking to a woman from the group, Tammy, and I see, again, why it seems like the control over their lives that this experiment might offer the group from Union Point is so precious and precarious.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  Tammy, what are you up to over here?

• 14:15Speaker 04

  There's hella good rocks right here.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  Tammy's squatting over the rock-covered ground behind Tim's pallet shelter, collecting, something I've seen her do over and over again.

• 14:25Speaker 04

  When I've got things on my mind, I like to pick rocks.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  She's set like over 50 gravel rocks on top of an electric meter next to where she's squatting down.

• 14:35Speaker 04

  These rocks are so badass.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  She shows me a rock that kind of shimmers.

• 14:40Speaker 04

  I'm gonna put them in my little garden area that I make in front of my house.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  Her hands are arthritic and knobby, coated in rock dust. Tammy's 55. She started collecting rocks, hoarding all sorts of things when she became homeless years ago. She was in an abusive relationship and needed to disappear, get off the grid.

• 15:04Speaker 04

  When I came to Oakland, I didn't have nothing. I had a bag of stuff because I just lost everything. So that's when it started.

• 15:14Speaker 01

  She started picking things up off the street.

• 15:16Speaker 04

  I've got a hand mixer, I've got phone chargers, you know, chainsaw, you know, table saw, some big barbecue that we can like smoke with, bags and bags of clothes, bags of clothes, bags of clothes. I have a blanket fetish.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  And how many blankets do you have?

• 15:29Speaker 04

  A million.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  How many blankets do you really have?

• 15:32Speaker 04

  Oh, probably 50, easy. I have, I like comforters, down comforters, so I probably have 12 of those, 15 of those.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  She eventually moved into a shelter. Within months, the shelter caught on fire and burned down. Tammy was back to owning nothing.

• 15:53Speaker 04

  Your shit always gets taken. So when you see something, you want to keep it.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  But here at East 12th, so far, her space looks tidy. She's had to get rid of boxes and boxes of things from her motel room in order to fit into her eight-by-eight tiny home.

• 16:11Speaker 04

  Oh, I threw away hello shit. That's almost-

• 16:13Speaker 01

  Has it been hard?

• 16:14Speaker 04

  Fuck, yeah. It's been hard. It's been a haul, let me tell you.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  And now, with Adam gone, Tammy wonders if all her hard work has been worth it. If this little village she's been building for the past year will be taken over, made into another typical city housing intervention. No say-so for the residents, no community agreements.

• 16:36Speaker 04

  I'm gonna give up everything that I have to come down here, and what if it fails? What if it was made to fail?

• 16:44Speaker 01

  She told me she's getting toothaches from stress eating candy.

• 16:47Speaker 04

  Everything we've worked and planned and scheduled and everything all these months is... We can't even practice it. You know, when you're counting on something to be a certain way for a whole year, and you work towards that, and then all of a sudden, everything's rocked. Some people can't function like that.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Tammy doesn't know if next month she'll be living in a motel, a pallet shelter, or back on the street. She's seen heaps of her curb-found blankets and bins swept away in city trucks. And Tammy knows that this experiment in co-governance can be shut down in minutes.

• 17:25Speaker 04

  Right now, everything's out of my control.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  You really feel that nothing's in your control?

• 17:32Speaker 04

  Not at this moment, no.

• 17:36Speaker 04

  Because we don't really know anything. Nobody's told us anything. We're not even... We don't know anything more than we did before.

• 17:43Speaker 01

  Do you think the co-governance mission has failed?

• 17:46Speaker 04

  Oh, no. We're not gonna let it fail. We're not gonna let it fail.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  Though Tammy seems terrified that this experiment might unravel, she and the others keep showing up at East 12th to fight for their community.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  In the next week, I watch the residents travel between the motel and the site, bringing succulents and posters and potted plants to spruce up their pallet shelters. And then, literal hours before the move-out deadline, I'm in the parking lot of the Travel Inn. And it's happening.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  People are loading bags and boxes of stuff into one of the residents' RVs. The hotel manager, Sweetie, is handing out garbage bags. Oh, God. Mama Dee is cleaning out her fridge. A few residents, they're already gone. Their site at East 12th is incomplete. There are still no showers, no toilets.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  And still, people are handing in their key cards and making their way to East 12th.

• 19:03Speaker 04

  Good morning. Your hair looks good, pink.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  The next time I come back to the site, Mama Dee opens the gate for me. There's a hand-drawn sign on the outside. It says "Union Point on the Rise" around a gold painting of an anchor. The group made it out of the motel and onto their site.

• 19:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. Completely. It's like family here, you know? It's nice.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  Is this new co-governed site really the paradise Mama Dee and her fellow residents have hoped for? Stay tuned to find out.

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• 21:08Speaker 01

  Welcome back to A Tiny Plot, Chapter Four. I'm your host, Shaina Shealy. We've just arrived at Union Point on the Rise, the new co-governed site at East 12th Street. Mama Dee and another woman, Lucy, show me around. They've been living here in their new homes for about a week. They both put up fences around their palette-shelter tiny homes. You know how all little girls, they want that white house with the white picket fence? She got it.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  Now it's taking a little longer, but she has it now. Do you think this is tall enough for her dogs? Yeah. We walk towards the kitchen. President Matt built it out of an old nine-by-12 tough shed. He painted the walls white. Inside, Papa Eddie's pouring himself a glass of Merlot and then mixing it with white sugar.

• 21:59Speaker 06

  It's a full body, but it's so dry. You pour sugar in it and it softens it out a little bit.

• 22:04Speaker 03

  You've been preaching to me about the wine and chocolate, wine and chocolate solution.

• 22:10Speaker 01

  What's the wine and chocolate solution?

• 22:13Speaker 03

  For...

• 22:15Speaker 06

  It's a brain endorphin thing.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  Getting off drugs.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  Matt's been working on getting clean.

• 22:22Speaker 03

  It's like drug replacement.

• 22:23Speaker 06

  And I like sweet stuff anyway.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  There are shelves stocked with boxes of donated fresh lemons and limes, three bags of popcorn as tall as my legs, stacks and stacks of vegetable broth and grapefruit juice.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  There's even a little couch in there that Matt found on the street.

• 22:43Speaker 06

  And I have a little mini speaker.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Matt tells me he's been spending time at the site next door, Lakeview Village, meeting the neighbors. He shared their site's Wi-Fi password with them.

• 22:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, I was really upset about like those people that came by and were not happy with us being white and like coming here and like from another district and taking up space that should be for black people. The way like they put their arguments, which was much more eloquent than what I just said, it's hard for me to dispute. I've kind of gone back and but like it's ultimately is what we've been given and so we're going to do the best that we can with it. It involves uplifting the community around us. And our plan from the beginning has been to use this as an opportunity to do good, not just for ourselves, but for other people, just because we think there's a better way

• 23:40Speaker 06

  that this lot has.

• 23:43Speaker 01

  President Matt then walks me to the security shed where one resident is watching surveillance footage, wearing a puffy jacket with a patch on the sleeve that says, "Private Security." I'm honestly stunned. They're here decorating their pallet shelters with succulents like they're actually homes, borrowing equipment from neighbors on the other side of the fence, running their own security.

• 24:08Speaker 04

  It's kind of nice, you know? We feel comfortable and we feel safe.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  And over the next month and a half, the residents continue working to prove themselves. Mama Dee keeps the porta-potties clean. There's no real sink, no place to wash dishes or brush teeth, but Mama Dee has a camping shower and she's brought it into the empty shower stalls they built. Other residents put security uniforms on and watch the security monitor. The experiment is working. This is the first city-sponsored homeless encampment in Oakland to be led by homeless folks themselves. And it becomes clear to me that this whole time they've been trenching and painting, despite all the roadblocks, they were never going to let this project fail.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  Their belief in this experiment is in action in itself.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  Still, they wake up most mornings to Nino, calling over his bullhorn for the fence to come down, to put an end to what he sees as a visible sign of racism. But Union Point people keep telling me that taking down the fence would be the end of cogovernance.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  What? Like, help me understand why taking down the fence was such like the ultimate affront to the cogovernance model.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  We fought for to have our area.

• 25:35Speaker 01

  I love how you just fed DNS strawberry right in here.

• 25:37Speaker 04

  Because they want, they want us to join with them as one. But you can't do that because it's too way, they're way too big. It is gonna mess with our community.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  Okay, so the thing that I'm having trouble with is, you know, in the beginning of this whole thing, you guys said ultimate success of this model is spreading it to other homeless communities and being able to replicate it with other people. And it sort of seems like taking down the fence is a chance to do just that.

• 26:05Speaker 04

  But we haven't even had the opportunity to live in our cogovernance. We don't want somebody from over there coming over here, getting bit by my dog because they want to pet my dogs, or getting hurt because this place is not, it's not safe. They don't want our shit down, we don't want their shit down. We don't want, we don't want, none of us, neither side wants it.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  I couldn't go into Lakeview Village to talk to people. So I had to try to have conversations with residents there through the fence. I managed at least three. The truth is, they all had so much going on that the fence wasn't really much of a concern, including for this one woman, Harriet. They did, you know, there are people outside protesting and saying that, you know, there's segregation here.

• 26:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, I do. In here?

• 26:55Speaker 01

  Uh huh. Between these two communities.

• 26:58Speaker 04

  That's all over the goddamn place. See, that's what you call a stupid ass. That's everywhere.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  And what do you think about this fence coming down or going out?

• 27:08Speaker 04

  You know what? They have dogs. They have dogs. And because the dogs haven't jumped the fence and bit anybody, which they seem to like to do out here, I've been taking care of my own situation. So I didn't know what the hell was going on with anybody else. All I want to know right now is how can I get the fuck out of here? So until this area is just as complete as that area, it's stupid to try to combine them together. The guy feels that... The guys over there too, they feel the same way.

• 27:39Speaker 01

  Mama Dee and Lucy told me that they just want a chance to really do this experiment in co-governance. And that taking the fence down would interfere with that. While they haven't gotten really any of the amenities they've asked for, like toilets, they have, for the most part, been able to decide on the rules. Who runs security and who comes into their space.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  They invite activists and photographers to their meetings. I've been following them for over a year. At Lakeview Village, if you leave for over 72 hours, you lose your house. Guests have to be approved by security. The Union Point people don't want the fence down because it means they'll be absorbed by the rules next door.

• 28:28Speaker 04

  Once we... Once they take that down, it constitutes failure. Really? With us coing.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  But it seems like they won't have to take it down. Besides Nino, no one is requiring that.

• 28:44Speaker 01

  And then, on a Monday morning in March, I hear helicopters above my apartment, about a mile from the site.

• 28:53Speaker 01

  And that's when I check my phone. There's been a fire.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  You just listened to the fourth chapter of A Tiny Plot. There's more. Five chapters total. Tune in for the grand finale here Thursday on the Snap Judgment feed. You won't want to miss it. Next up on A Tiny Plot.

• 29:31Speaker 04

  None of this shit is safe for none of us.

• 29:33Glynn Washington?

  I just want to leave before another explosion.

• 29:40Speaker 04

  We are co-government. We ain't supposed to have nobody tell us what to do. We're supposed to be running this.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  A Tiny Plot is a production of KQED Snap Studios. Hosted and produced by Shaina Shealy, edited by Anna Sussman. Original music by Renzo Gorrio. Made possible by the entire Snap team and everyone who lived at Union Point Park. Thank you for sharing your stories. Extra special thanks to Jen Chen, Katherine Winter, The City of Oakland, Sweetie at the Travel Inn, Ryan Finnegan, Will Kraft, JP Dobrin, Thomas Browns, Sukey Lewis, Alastair Boone and the Street Spirit, Otthouse Audio, the entire cast from Union Point Park, and KQED Legal. Engineering by Pat Macidi Miller. Director of Production, Marisa Dodge.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Executive producers, Glynn Washington and Mark Ristich. On Team Snap, the union-represented producers, artists, editors, and engineers are members of the National Association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians, Communications Workers of America, AFL-CIO, Local 51. And this is not the news. No way is it the news. Because this is Snap Judgment. Get your ears ready and keep your hearts open. Because this is P-R-X.