Stem Cells vs. Death: The Real Breakthrough No One Is Talking About | Peter Diamandis (Fan Fav)

Fan Favorite: This episode originally aired on June 6, 2017. Named one of Fortune’s “50 greatest leaders of all time,” Peter Diamandis is disrupting education and business through his 19 startups and his role as founder and Executive Chairman of the XPRIZE. Guided by the stories handed down from his father, he used medical school to launch his space exploration program and is now a multiple New York Times bestselling author. Dive in with Peter and Tom as they discuss the importance of cultivating passion, curiosity, and grit in this compelling episode of Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. “Part of this is putting yourself out there and trying. The ratio of zero to one is infinite.” —Peter Diamandis SHOW NOTES Peter recalls leveraging familial pressure to become a doctor as a stepping stone toward his true desire. [2:43] Peter talks about cultivating the drive to move in the direction of his passion. [6:01] Peter recalls how his father’s stories shaped his worldview. [10:44] Tom and Peter discuss why telling stories is the best way to encounter a growth mindset. [16:12] Peter reveals the three most important things to nurture in any child. [19:30] Peter spells out the most important elements of thinking like an entrepreneur. [23:57] Peter digs into his fascination with Star Trek and bridging the gap between science fiction and reality. [25:38] Tom and Peter dive deep into his passion surrounding stem cells and human longevity. [33:20] Peter discusses societal changes involving technological unemployment. [43:28] Peter talks about enhancing human intelligence and plugging into meta intelligence. [47:45] Peter explains why he believes we are living inside of a video game simulation. [52:54] Peter defines the impact that he wants to have on the world. [57:18] ********************************************************************** Do you need my help? STARTING a business: Join me inside ZERO TO FOUNDER here https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=6762613-Scaling%20YT%20%26%20PC%20Ads&utm_source=IT_PC&utm_content=ztf_it_pc_ad SCALING a business: Click here to see if you qualify https://tombilyeu.com/scale?utm_campaign=6762613-Scaling%20YT%20%26%20PC%20Ads&utm_source=mindset_PC&utm_content=bdceo_mindset_pc_ad Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** Join me live on myTwitch stream https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ. I'm live daily from 6:30 to 8:30 am PT atwww.twitch.tv/tombilyeu https://impacttheory.co/4fitmnJ ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS:apple.co/impacttheory http://apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:07Speaker 01

  You're listening to the Impact Theory Podcast, your source of empowering ideas and actionable techniques from the world's highest achievers. Join host Tom Bilyeu, serial entrepreneur and co-founder of the billion-dollar brand Quest Nutrition, on a journey to unlock your potential and realize your vision of success. Welcome to Impact Theory.

• 1:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Everybody, welcome to Impact Theory. You are here, my friends, because you believe that human potential is nearly limitless, but you know that having potential is not the same as actually doing something with it. So our goal with this show and company is to introduce you to the people and ideas that are actually going to help you execute on your dreams. All right. Today's guest is a hyper-intelligent, furiously educated, one-man-army, hell-bent to create a brighter future. While others may look forward and see only a dystopian world where the machines enslave us for our heat energy, he sees only amazing possibilities. And this optimism, coupled with a metric ton of grit and degrees in molecular genetics

• 2:14Tom Bilyeu?

  and aerospace engineering from MIT and an MD from Harvard Medical School, have helped him shape himself into one of the most potent entrepreneurial forces on the planet. He is committed to helping at least 1 million entrepreneurs create companies that matter, and he believes that the best way to predict the future is to create it. As such, he's founded 17 companies himself and invested in countless more that are designed to alter the very fabric of human society. From Human Longevity, Inc. and Cellularity, which together aim to keep us all healthy and add 30 high-performance years to the human lifespan, to Singularity University, which is disrupting education and business, quite frankly, and Planetary Resources, a company

• 2:55Tom Bilyeu?

  that builds the spaceships humankind will need to, you guessed it, mine asteroids. He's literally constructing our future one game-changing enterprise at a time. He's also the founder and executive chairman of XPRIZE, the legendary nonprofit that gave birth to privatized spaceflight and continues to incentivize some of the biggest scientific and technological breakthroughs of the 21st century. It is not hard to see, my friends, why Fortune Magazine is named one of the 50 greatest leaders of our time. So please, help me in welcoming the man who has a stamp with his face on it, the multiple-time New York Times bestselling author of bold and abundance, "The Future Is Brighter Than You Think," Dr. Peter Diamandis.

• 3:46Tom Bilyeu?

  It is so good to have you on the show, man.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  It is so great to be here, pal. I need to get a copy of that introduction so I can send it to my mom.

• 3:55Tom Bilyeu?

  That is, I think, very reasonable. And I love the story about the fact that your family really wanted you to go to medical school, which you did dutifully as a good Greek boy.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  I did.

• 4:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Sent them the diploma and then rapidly pursued your dreams.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was a... My parents both were born in Greece, in the island Lesbos, and came over after World War II. And I grew up in a medical family. And of course, back then, right, you know, you were either a doctor, a lawyer, or maybe an engineer, but you know, doctor and lawyer was the highest profession. And so it was expected that I'd become a physician. And it drove a good part of my life. At the end of the day, I sort of rationalized becoming a doctor was a great...

• 4:45Speaker 02

  Sort of stepping stone towards my desire, my true desire of going into space. Because when I looked at the actual stats, out of every hundred astronauts, the largest chunk were military, and I was not likely going to the military. The next largest chunk were doctors, and then it went down to scientists and engineers. And so I said, "Okay, doctors, I can do that."

• 5:04Tom Bilyeu?

  There's a lot of familial pressure to go into that, especially as a son of immigrants. What was the narrative you were telling yourself when you said, "Okay, actually, I'm not gonna do that."

• 5:12Speaker 02

  Well, I kept it secret.

• 5:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Really?

• 5:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I sort of, I externally was the good Greek head of the altar boy, you know, going to MIT to study biology on my way to medical school. And all of my space interests were extracurricular, you know. Up in my, up in my room, I had a closet packed with explosives. Literally, my best-

• 5:41Tom Bilyeu?

  You guys were just buying them, right?

• 5:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, back then, you could, you could mail order explosives. And my friend Billy and I would have, would buy the very best stuff we could, you know. We start with potassium nitrate, saltpeter, and charcoal and sulfur, which is, makes a reasonably good gunpowder.

• 6:01Tom Bilyeu?

  How'd you figure that out?

• 6:02Speaker 02

  Oh, I had this great book called Poor Man's James Bond, which was, and then there was in The Anarchist Cookbook. Both of those gave me every formulation I wanted. Listen, I'm just saying, the stuff was available back then.

• 6:14Tom Bilyeu?

  That's amazing. You're really in trouble with two boys, by the way.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  Oh, I, listen, and if they ever, if they ever watch this show, I have them ban the show for them. But, you know, we, it was, my friend Billy and I used to build explosives, and we learned that potassium perchlorate versus potassium nitrate generated some oxygen, so it could explode underwater. And, and that was really great, because we made these little bombs that we'd throw in the pool, and it'd blow up. Until one day, I remember at Jonathan Lynn's home, we threw it in, and it, you know, you got this explosion of water going out. And then we heard this crack, and his pool basically cracked across the entire. I learned one of my, one of my rules of physics, that fluids are not compressible.

• 7:03Tom Bilyeu?

  It's a good lesson.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. I had a fun childhood, but all of the non-medical stuff was sort of literally in the closet.

• 7:11Tom Bilyeu?

  And so you've got pretty specific advice of following your passion and doing that. At what point do you tell your parents? How do they react? How do you keep going in that direction?

• 7:21Speaker 02

  Well, so it was an interesting moment in time because, you know, I went to MIT and I was doing molecular genetics during the day. And at night and weekends, I would go and sort of hang out at the MVL, the manned vehicle lab, which is where the astronauts were being trained. And I'd volunteer to do research and I would do that in the side.

• 7:44Tom Bilyeu?

  And were you doing molecular genetics because you thought it would feed into?

• 7:47Speaker 02

  Yes, that was, it was, that was the medical, that was the highest probability path to getting accepted to medical school.

• 7:53Tom Bilyeu?

  Got it.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  Which was sort of like the second to last goal, graduating medical school was the target. And, um, and so I did everything space. I was, while I was an undergrad, I started my first organization ever. It's called Students for the Exploration and Development of Space, SEDS. It still is, God knows, 35, 40 years later, the world's largest college space organization.

• 8:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Wow.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  And Jeff Bezos, I met through SEDS. He was the president of the Princeton chapter. And I found myself running a, a national and international organization of fellow student space cadets. And a lot of the guys I work with now that have co-founded companies came out of SEDS. It was sort of my, SEDS was my magnet for attracting like-minded people around the world, right? It's sort of like this, you put out this call and say, this is what I stand for, this is what I care about. Anyone who wants to join me, you know, come.

• 8:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Did you actually write like a manifesto?

• 8:50Speaker 02

  Uh, yes, I did write a manifesto in, and it was interesting. The year was 19, it was about 1981, 1982. There was a magazine back then called Omni Magazine. Do you remember Omni Magazine? Okay. Well, there was, uh, so it got, this manifesto got published in three magazines and it said, we students, that space is our future and the government is mortgaging our future. And it was this long letter to the editor that said, any students who are passionate about opening up space, you know, it's our legacy, join me in this organization. I got letters from around the world of people who wanted to join and form a chapter of SEDS. Anyway, it was awesome.

• 9:30Speaker 02

  Fast forward, I get into medical school and I'm going through medical school and I'm still doing all my extracurricular space activities. I'm still running, you know, SEDS, I'm, I started a launch company, I had started a university. I mean, I'm running two startups during medical school, which was kind of an insane thing. Because there's so much time. There's so much time. Three times in medical school, yeah. Yeah, we'll get back to that, but so we're at a point where we had to declare our internship and residency, this thing called MATCH. And it scared the living shit out of me. I found myself in a situation where I was able to skate by in medical school in that

• 10:14Speaker 02

  there was always someone else watching and if I made a mistake, it would be caught and and it sort of got known that my heart and soul wasn't in medicine, it was in other stuff I was doing. But when it came time to become an intern and resident, you're at that point, you're going to become a real doctor and if you're not being, paying attention, you're going to kill people. Right. And that scared me. It really scared me. So I remember going and calling the head of the Man Vehicle Lab at MIT and explaining the situation, said, can I come back and enter the doctorate program there? I need, I need a timeout from medical school. Right. To figure out what I want to do with my life.

• 10:54Speaker 02

  And I got accepted back into the aerospace engineering degree and, and followed that and eventually got my aerospace engineering degrees, went back and finished medical school. But by that.

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• 13:17Tom Bilyeu?

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• 13:22Speaker 02

  That time, the two companies I had started were going forward. I, like you said, mailed a diploma to my, my parents and said, okay, listen, I gotta fess up. I'm not going to practice medicine.

• 13:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Wow, you took that really, really far.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  Really far.

• 13:34Tom Bilyeu?

  But that is very impressive that you could do that all at the same time. I mean, just knowing you personally from a time management perspective, your use of time is unbelievable. I mean, it's literally unbelievable. And I'm a guy, dude, I grind, I work hard, I'm not afraid of that. But watching what you've accomplished with 24 hours is pretty startling. So, kudos to you.

• 13:53Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 13:53Tom Bilyeu?

  One thing I want to talk about, you've talked about going back to your dad and your mom and dad both grew up on Lesbos. You once likened your dad moving to New York and becoming a doctor, being akin to you going to Mars.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, talk me through, so this is really similar to Lisa's dad's story. So, he grew up in a tiny village in the middle of the mountains in Cyprus.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Goes to Athens and then ultimately to London. And when you talk to him, that's what it sounds like. Like, the drastic change in worldview and how that impacted him. What was that like for your dad? What did that leave on you?

• 14:24Speaker 02

  So, I grew up with the stories of my dad. Of him, you know, speaking about times where he did not have enough to eat. Where when all his friends, and he was in a small village called Mestignai in island Lesbos. And he talks about, you know, tending to, you know, the sheeps and goats and picking olives. And that was, you know, how he helped keep his family fed, especially during the war. And when he left to go take his entrance exam to medical school, we took the boat to Athens for the first time. You know, his father was there waving him off and saying, "If you don't pass, don't come back."

• 15:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  And, I mean, talk about pressure.

• 15:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Wow. He did pass and he goes to medical school and has to work a job during the day. And he couldn't go to classes to pay for his medical school and to pay for room and board. And so, he ended up studying at night. And I grew up with this, with this sense of, "You do what you need to do to make it happen and you pursue your dreams." And you, and education is like the most important thing you could possibly get. He doesn't speak a word of English. And he just does what it takes. And when I think about the journey he made from this small village on Lesbos to becoming a very successful New York physician, it's like this epic journey of improbabilities.

• 15:53Speaker 02

  And I think about that, for me, the equivalent of going from here To Mars, which is something I do intend eventually to do.

• 16:02Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:04Tom Bilyeu?

  It's, um, did you look at your dad as a hero growing up?

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Oh, he was very much a hero.

• 16:09Tom Bilyeu?

  So you weren't dismissing him?

• 16:10Speaker 02

  Oh, God, no. Oh, no, I was not dismissing him at all. I was in awe. And I listened as much and, you know, I have two six-year-old boys now, fraternal twins. And I think about how do I convey the lessons that I learned from my father, because I'm not growing up in that level of hardship. I am, yes, squeezing every, you know, nanosecond of time out of every hour. But still, I just, uh, you know, just am so appreciative of what he did. Right? I would have had none of these opportunities had he not taken that leap he did.

• 16:50Tom Bilyeu?

  I love what you're saying about your dad, that he did whatever it took and he got the result. Um, you've said, this is one of my favorite quotes of yours, I'm gonna paraphrase it, but, um, "People need to stop focusing on the problem and start focusing on the solution." How do you teach people to do that? Like, what are you gonna do with your kids to get them to be solution-oriented?

• 17:06Speaker 02

  So I have a belief that every problem is solvable. It may not be easy.

• 17:11Tom Bilyeu?

  How'd you come up with that? Because that, for most people, would seem pretty counterintuitive.

• 17:15Speaker 02

  Well, because as I think about the world we're living in today, it's the realization that we have solved so many problems to achieve this extraordinary world we live in today. In terms of global production of food, of energy, of water, of information. We're living in, in the world of Star Trek. You know, I mean, it's, you think about that, that we can diagnose almost anything. I can read your genome for a hundred bucks in a matter of a couple of hours and understand all 3.2 billion letters of your life and have an AI analyze it and tell me about yourself.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Right? I can, I can on one of these devices call up any piece of information, talk to anyone on the planet. These are, this is magic. This is crazy stuff. You know, just 20 years ago, let alone, you know, 100 years ago or 1,000 years ago. So, you know, the realization is any problem is only a problem contextually today. And we're going to be creating the tools and knowledge to be able to solve that problem. And I believe that any problem not forbidden by the laws of physics is solvable. And even then, we're going to sort of learn where the boundaries of physics truly are.

• 18:31Tom Bilyeu?

  So just to give you an idea why this is such an important question for me. So the whole point of impact theory is me going, okay, now that I don't have to worry about money, like, what do I really want to do? What I want to do is overcome the poverty of mindset. So most people, I just think, have a frame of reference that is so counterproductive that they don't end up wringing the potential out of themselves, right? So, God forbid, something happens to you and your wife, and your kids end up growing up with somebody else. They just have a different frame of reference. And that ultimately stunts their development, right? That's like my belief. And somebody grows up in the inner cities or in Tanzania, you know, don't have access to the education system, whatever it is that causes them to have that mindset, they have that mindset. And so I'm trying to answer the question, how do you, at scale, by leveraging behavior, not changing it,

• 19:15Tom Bilyeu?

  how do you make sure that everybody encounters that mindset?

• 19:18Speaker 02

  So, first of all, thank you for that, because that mindset is the virus we need to let loose into the cosmos, right? It's the realization, if people truly believe what you're saying, then everybody becomes a problem solver. And then problems vanish. I mean, ultimately, at scale, eight billion people solving problem after problem after problem means that this world is just dealing with higher-order problems, which is fantastic. I think it's by story. I think it's by what you do here. It's the stories that we tell. It's the examples that we give. You know, you have to ask yourself the question, is somebody who has got that mindset smarter?

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Probably not. They've just had better experiences and perhaps luck along the way. So I'll give you one example. I mentioned SEDS earlier. So SEDS was my first organization ever. I'm at MIT. It's my sophomore year, and I'm passionate about space. I find out there's no student space organization at MIT. Oh, my God. You're crazy. This is MIT, it should be a student space organization. And so I go to the MIT Student Center, and I find out you need to get five signatures to start a group. And I'm the first. I get three of my fraternity brothers,

• 20:37Speaker 02

  Bill, Brad, and Roland as the third, and then one of their girlfriends, Natalie. And that's our first five. And we get it, we submit it, and here I'm running the student space organization. And I go and I poster MIT, this is before the days of the internet, right? Before computers, like rub on letter type of days, like you know, photocopy days. This is 1982, thereabouts. And I posted the entire campus and 30 people show up at this meeting where I pitched this idea of creating a student space organization. And after that meeting, I was so enthralled by this level of energy, like, oh my god, this has a future. And I remember standing outside the student center, looking up at the stars and sort

• 21:18Speaker 02

  of seeing, fast forward, this organization actually becoming what it's become. And I sent out letters along with two of my colleagues and it gets published by Astronomy Analog and Omni Magazine and hundreds of people write letters back in and the organization blossoms into an international student space organization. I find myself running in the living room of my fraternity, right? Now, it was a success and I became addicted to that feeling of success. Now, had that been a failure? Had I done that and next year, no one showed up and it flopped, maybe we'd be having a different story.

• 22:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Right.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  But in the success, I was like, okay, what can I do next? And next for me was something called the Space Generation Foundation and then International Space University, ISU, which is, you know, another major nonprofit success, but has grown into a hundred million dollar university, you know, around the world and it's just been amazing. But I think part of this is putting yourself out there and trying. It's the ratio of zero to one is infinite. And how do you get people to just try to overcome their fears? That's the hard part. And it's the realization that it's okay to fail, but it's even better to succeed.

• 22:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Very well said. So, the key moment in that for me, and you put your finger on it, is writing or getting the signatures to start the organization, to believe that you could pull it off. Is that optimism something that you cultivated in your life, or is it something that you come by naturally?

• 22:57Speaker 02

  So, interesting, right? So, it came, when you peel that onion of taking that first step, that zero to one, and getting those five signatures, what drove that? Right? So, what drove that was my, my childhood passion and interest in space. I was so interested in space, so enthralled by it, that ultimately, I was sort of like miffed, there was no space group there. And I was like, okay, opportunity, I'll create one. So, the question then becomes, you know, what drove that passion in me?

• 23:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Right.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  And when I think about, going back to my kids, I talk about the three things I want for them. I boil it down to the three most important things that are important for any child, my children in particular, that I'm driven with them, is helping them find their passion. I don't care what it is. I don't care if it's like, you know, Barbie dolls, or, you know, right now it's Minecraft and Legos, but it's find that passion that will drive them self-driven learning and self-driven investigation. The second thing is curiosity. In a world where you can know anything, curiosity is so critically important. And then grit.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  And you know grit. You know grit, and your story just speaks volumes. And so, passion, curiosity, and grit for me was what I happened to have learned. I learned grit from my dad because I saw him not give up. And so in my, in my household, when, for my kids, you know, we, we joke and seriously say, what's the one thing we don't do? And they'll say, we don't give up. Right? So it's like, it's just, it's, and every day when I walk them to school, the last thing I say to them is, ask good questions today. And while we're walking to school, I say, what questions do you have for me? And so it's, I want to get a culture of question asking and a culture of not giving up.

• 24:56Speaker 02

  And passion, it's my job to observe the natural passion and then just fuel it. What do you want to do? Okay, paper airplanes, fantastic. We're going to learn about every paper airplane out there and why they work.

• 25:06Tom Bilyeu?

  I love that. What I love about that is it's systematized, right? Like so few people can get to the point where they can explain how I'm going to inculcate this into my kids. I, I ask people about their kids a lot because kids are the one thing that really forces people to say, what am I trying to teach? Right? What am I trying to pass on? I've got this universe of things that I think about and I'm going to boil it down to something that I can, you know, pass on to the next generation. And when it comes to kids, people take that really seriously.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:33Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, so it, it cuts through all the BS and gets to the point where people are, you know what they really believe in enough that they're going to try to pass it on. But a lot of people fall down into how.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Well, so it's interesting. My kids are going into kindergarten and I think about, uh, honestly, will they ever go to college? And do we actually reinvent what school is like for them? What role do I play? I mean, one of the things that I'm excited about is getting them involved in Dean Kamen's first robotics competition. Right? So first robotics, if you don't know about it, is this incredibly rich after-school experience where kids, first starting with Legos, build robotic Legos to do, do certain things. And then at the high school level, a first robotics team gets a, basically a box of stuff. They have to build a robot that accomplishes a certain task, like, like picks up basketballs

• 26:27Speaker 02

  and, and shoots them into the hoop while knocking out other robots. And it's, you, it's about, uh, learning how to think through a problem and build the system and become engineers. You know, ultimately, our society tends to make heroes out of who? Rock stars, sports stars. Your chance of becoming a rock star or a sports star are probably, you know,

• 26:52Speaker 02

  The only thing less than that is probably becoming an astronaut. But at the end of the day, you know, so we idolize these rock stars, these TV stars, these sports stars, and that's okay, I guess, but we should be idolizing, you know, people like yourself and engineers and scientists and, you know, incredible people on the planet. And so First Robotics is all about recognition and celebration of engineers and scientists.

• 27:21Tom Bilyeu?

  All right, what is the most important elements to thinking like an entrepreneur?

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Being fascinated by how you would solve it and then creating something that you really want and that you authentically believe in, like you do this show, and then being able to express it to people. So, you know, I'm working right now on my 19th startup and it's a...

• 27:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Why I undersold you in the intro at the...

• 27:51Speaker 02

  By two, but that's okay. But it's reinventing the news media, right?

• 27:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  So it's a really exciting one. I'm so excited about it. I can't say much about it, but right now, when you're watching the news on TV, whatever, you're counting on an individual called a news editor to decide what you put into your brain.

• 28:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Right.

• 28:11Speaker 02

  And it's insane that you should allow the crisis news network or the constantly negative news network, whatever you call CNN, I love my little, you know, little tweaks, jabs on CNN.

• 28:22Tom Bilyeu?

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• 29:53Speaker 02

  But we allow them to decide what I should say over and over and over again. And your mindset is everything. So imagine if you could have some other mechanisms for controlling what you see and when you see it. Anyway, I won't go into more than that. But at the end of the day, I'm excited by this in theory and we are building the beta right now. And for me, the tire hits the road as an entrepreneur. If I love it and I use it, and until I love it and use it all the time, it doesn't go into the ethos out there. It needs to be something I'm passionate about.

• 30:28Tom Bilyeu?

  For anybody who doesn't know, what is your fascination with Star Trek? And how deeply have you baked it into?

• 30:35Speaker 02

  It's that green chick. So I was born in the 60s and Apollo occurred, Apollo 11, occurred in 1969, which was an incredibly formative moment in my life, the entire Apollo program. And at the same time, you know, Star Trek debuted in 1966. I didn't see it then. I saw it in the reruns and it had three seasons in total. But when I was seeing it in 1969, 1970, Apollo showed me what was going on right now and Star Trek is, this is where we're going. And that one-two punch just made me enamored with the future in space, that this was, this was the destiny of humanity.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  We are about to launch into the cosmos. And so I became enamored with Star Trek. And the more you look at Star Trek, Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry, the creator, writer, producer of Star Trek, I know his son Rod Roddenberry. Gene Roddenberry was a brilliant man. What Gene Roddenberry created was a set of technologies on that show that are still driving us today. Right, so he had the communicator, right, that you were able to just tap into and talk to anybody on the planet. And of course, you know, we take that for, you know, that was a crazy idea back in the 60s with rotary dial, you know, landline phones.

• 32:03Speaker 02

  He had the tricorder, right? And we have just, within the X Prize, as you know, we just had the awarding of the $10 million Qualcomm tricorder X Prize. And the tricorder was a thing that Bones or Spock would use to diagnose someone and go, you know, Jim, he's an alien, you know, or he's got Rygillian fever, or whatever the case might be. And so we challenged teams throughout the world here to create the Star Trek tricorder, a device that could diagnose 15 diseases for you as a mom, 2 o'clock in the morning when your kid is sick. They, you know, he has the replicator device that, you know, you can create anything. And that's, you know, we're just on the, on the,

• 32:48Speaker 02

  on the way towards that with 3D printing. And so Star Trek just created these amazing, this view of the future. And probably one of the most interesting views of the future that no one talks about is the future of Star Trek had no economy. In a world in which you can create anything, money has little to no value. You're living in a world of abundance where you can create anything you want. Disease is cured, education is available through an AI. You can create anything through this replicator. You can go anyplace. And what really had value in the future and will have value for us in the future is

• 33:31Speaker 02

  raw material, like an asteroid worth or a planet worth over here. Energy from the sun or from, in that case, dilithium crystals or information sets to manufacture something. So I see the Star Trek universe as really a target we're heading towards.

• 33:49Tom Bilyeu?

  I love how, so one of my favorite things is when somebody who's very successful, who I take very seriously as an entrepreneur, as a thinker, whatever, is so impacted by something pop culture that it makes its way into everything that they do. And so at the last year's Visioneering Summit, literally all the teams presenting a new potential X Prize had to say how the X Prize was in line with Roddenberry's worldview. So that was amazing. And then the tricorder X Prize. So let's talk about how somebody can go and see Star Trek and see this absurd device which everybody else discounts. It just says, "It's fiction, it could never be."

• 34:31Tom Bilyeu?

  And then the person, namely you, that goes, "No, no, no. There's a way to actually make that." Like, is it just been like first you earn a little credibility with yourself and then a little bit more and a little bit more and it stacks up till you're so brazen that you go for the tricorder? Like, how does that happen?

• 34:48Speaker 02

  First of all, I would posit that science fiction, all science fiction, written, television, movies and so forth, create this believable future. And after you've read it or watched it, if you are all of a sudden back in reality here, there's this dissonance between this should be possible. And we're here. And if you can make that leap to say, "Okay, it's possible. How do we get there?" And X Prizes are all about saying, "I don't care where you went to school, what you've ever done. If you solve this problem, you win." And so it's putting out a bold, objective goal, right?

• 35:32Speaker 02

  Like, here's the 15 diseases you have to be able to detect. And here are the vital symptoms that we'll detect. And if you do this, you win 10 million bucks. And we're not too far from that being possible for all of us. What I mean by that is we're within 10 to 20 years from us being able to be in a world where we can speak our desires to an AI. And that AI is able to drive 3D printing technology, synthetic biology technology, eventually nanotechnology, and your thoughts, verbalized, become matter. Right?

• 36:14Speaker 02

  I mean, it really is, it's going from mind to matter to marketplace. And I talk about this, you know, we're all going to become entrepreneurs in the future. Or if I have an idea for something that I truly desire, like, like I want this mug, and I can say to my AI, listen, I want something that can carry some hot coffee, and I'd like a, you know, I'd like a handle on it, and can you color it white? And can you give it the thermal properties so that something inside it will stay warm for a much longer period, and I'd like it to be less than 10 cents? So, pick a material that's cheap, and I can look at it and say, yeah, can you scale a little bit larger? I haven't written a piece of code. I've just, I'm expressing what I want that's in my mind, in my heart. And this AI is in taking that desire

• 36:58Speaker 02

  and converting it to the right code or the right, whatever it might be, so that it becomes a file that can be then manufactured. And that level of magic is coming very fast. It's coming very fast. It's sort of Iron Man and Jarvis materialized in the next decade.

• 37:18Tom Bilyeu?

  What are you most excited about right now with technology like that getting so near term?

• 37:22Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. Everything. Man, so I'm driven by two moonshots that I'm on right now. I'm on a moonshot for mining asteroids. And the mining of the asteroids is just a part of the opening up the space frontier. Right, that during our lifetimes, in the next 10 to 20 years, that we're going to be moving irreversibly into space, right? Uh, I'm so thrilled that Jeff Bezos is doing what he's doing with Blue Origin. I knew Jeff at the earliest days of Amazon, I remember him telling me, "I'm building Amazon," but which by the way is a half a trillion dollar company, right? "I'm building Amazon in order to make the money to go and open the space frontier." Wow. Right, and so it was about two months ago,

• 38:06Speaker 02

  uh, he sold a billion dollars of Amazon stock to continue fueling Wow. his Blue Origin space company. And then Elon Musk, who I met now back in, uh, 2001, um, has been as passionate about opening up space. And really SpaceX is just light years ahead of most all the other aerospace companies. So you've got two incredible, wealthy, passionate, driven entrepreneurs opening up space. My part of that is with a company called Planetary Resources that's going out to these asteroids that are rich in fuels, in particular hydrogen and oxygen, which is rocket fuel from the shuttle main engine, and then platinum group metals and construction metals and so forth.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  And these are trillion dollar assets. If I can lasso one of those and put it on the public markets, I'd be set for life. Our first target asteroid is something like a 10 to 100 trillion dollar asset, depending upon, you know, how you value it or devalue it. Right. Um, the other thing I'm passionate about is, is human longevity. It's the realization that we are now gaining the tools to begin to understand why we age and ultimately why we die. And the question is, do we have to?

• 39:27Speaker 02

  You know, certain species of life on this planet, sharks, whales, turtles, have known multi-hundred-year lifespans. I remember seeing a show on that while I was in medical school, and I locked in and said, "Okay, if they can, why can't I?" And I said, "Clearly, it's a hardware or software problem." And so, I've dedicated a lot of my energy, and you named in the two companies, Human Longevity and Cellularity. Human Longevity is the genomic side of the equation. Cellularity is the stem cell side of the equation, which are just two of a couple of the different technologies, and there are many others. Why do stem cells excite you? Stem cells excite me because they are our primordial stuff.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  So, um... Let me give you a 101 lesson in stem cells. So, uh, when a woman gets pregnant and a fetus starts developing in the uterus, what is surrounding that fetus and creating sort of the nest for it is the placenta. And the placenta actually is supplying to that fetus all of the stem cells that it needs to grow, every tissue, every organ, every part of its body. So, a stem cell is a primordial cell that can develop into anything: brain, liver, heart, lung, skin, bone, cartilage, whatever it might be. And when that child is born, when, you know, my children were born,

• 40:56Speaker 02

  I actually stored their placentas. There's a company called Life Bank. People store cord blood. My recommendation is, that's great, and a minimum store the placental cord blood, and there's lots of companies that will do that. But I think storing the placenta is much more powerful, right? It's not just the cells that generate the hemopoetic system. It's all of the stem cells that create the child. Anyway, um... In a child that's whose blood and tissues are coursing with stem cells, whenever any damage takes place, any inflammation occurs, those stem cells are, go to that point of inflammation and very rapidly repair what's going on. But as we grow older, two things happen.

• 41:41Speaker 02

  One, our stem cell populations in our bone, in our fat, in our, in our organs, diminishes hundreds or thousands afold. Far less stem cells going through our body. And the stem cells in our body have undergone genetic changes because of radiation, the stuff you drank and eat. It's just the normal degradation of, of your genome, which changes over your lifespan. So if I go and I extract stem cells in my body right now, if my bone marrow or fat, which are the two largest reserves, and I sequence it, and if I could compare it to the stem cells of my birth, I would see that that's changed. So my stem cells have now reduced in number

• 42:26Speaker 02

  and have become somewhat senile. So their ability to continue to repair me has reduced, which is one of the theories of why we age. And so, one of my business partners, my co-founder of Human Longevity and my partner in founding Cellularity, Bob Pirelli. Bob's an MD PhD and now he's a fighter pilot, one of the rock stars in the stem cell world. He's actually done the work to show if you take, um, in this case, he did the work in, in mice. You take the placentas of that mice, you convert it to dosages of stem cells that you then give to that mouse at the end of its life. Like, in this case, typically a 26-month-old mouse.

• 43:10Speaker 02

  You will extend that mouse's life another 30 to 40%. Whoa. Right? You'll add another year almost on to it. And that's been repeated a number of different ways. There's a whole thing called the young blood experiments being done at Stanford. And right now, the experiments are going on in humans as well. That if, you know, it's sort of like, sort of Dracula and the vampire. But if you take the blood of a young individual and transfuse it with a plasma, not the cellular portion, into an older person, you will get a lot of return to youthful state. And in reality, it turns out that there are a number of stem cell clinics outside the United States.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  And I happen to know a number of 80-something-year-old billionaires who go and don't get young blood infusion, but get stem cell infusions. Why not young blood? Well, it turns out that the stem cells actually generate the the growth factors and all the chemical milieu that is in the plasma. And they live for 100 days. Now, is it stem cells from themselves? No, it's stem cells from newborns. Really? It's the stem cells from the placenta or the cord blood that are typically thrown away. That is utterly fascinating. I could do an entire show just picking your brain about that.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  And these are kinds of conversations that I think were verboten or were crazy before. But there are a lot of scientists today talking about aging as a disease, not an inevitability. Right. How do you feel about augmenting yourself? Like, are you gonna do it? Maybe you won't be an early adopter, but would you? Oh, I would be an early adopter. Yeah? I was onstage speaking at Singularity University. And the guy who spoke after me was talking about implantables. And he says, yes, we have these little RFID things that you can put data onto. We plant them. And he's... And so afterwards, I said, can I? And he said, sure.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  And so he went back onstage and he implanted right here. You can feel it.

• 45:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoa.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. I've got this little RFID. If you take your Near Field ID with your phone, you'd get my business card off of it.

• 45:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Are you serious?

• 45:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Do you have one on your phone?

• 45:32Speaker 02

  I don't have it turned on, but we'll turn it on after this. It'll take a little while to do it.

• 45:35Tom Bilyeu?

  That is crazy.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  But, um, so, listen, I think there's got to be some level of safety, but I'm much more risk-filip than you average.

• 45:42Tom Bilyeu?

  I would say, yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  You know, I think it's interesting because today, if you think about the world of sensors,

• 45:52Speaker 02

  I've got heart rate and steps on here. Very soon, we'll have glucose and blood pressure and other elements. And we're probably within five years, Apple, Samsung, Google, Facebook, everyone's working on sensors for your body.

• 46:09Tom Bilyeu?

  So, man, I could keep going on forever. But, so, limited time. There's two things I want to talk about. Is it true that you have like a board of advisors that are science fiction writers?

• 46:20Speaker 02

  We do. Uh, we have created at the X Prize Foundation a board of 35 science fiction writers that we will, we've just formed it, but we'll call on, because at the end of the day, you know, coming up with X prizes, coming up with, you know, big, bold, crazy ideas that are on the verge of just being doable. You know, why not call on people whose profession is to come up with those things?

• 46:48Tom Bilyeu?

  And what do you think they do to stay at the edge of that? Are they just researching real-world technologies? Or they?

• 46:53Speaker 02

  I've asked. And it's becoming harder to write stuff which is real hardcore science fiction because all the things we used to think of, I mean, once you've got AI and nanotechnology, nothing's impossible.

• 47:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Right.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  We're sort of like game over or game start.

• 47:11Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, that brings me to my next question. So, and very interesting that you switched it from game over to game start. As this happens, AI comes on, um, uh, just we're at a place where robotics, AI, we can create just about anything we want. Humans are essentially wiped out from the current way we think about jobs, or we call it roughly 50%. What happens societally? What happens to the generation that would have to make that transition? What does universal basic income look like? What is all that?

• 47:39Speaker 02

  So, um, when people...

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Sort of ask me, are you fearful of AI? You know, is AI the devil? Is it gonna, you know, destroy? Is it the Terminator gonna destroy humanity? I answer, no, it's not. I think AI is probably one of the, artificial intelligence, when I say AI, is one of the most important tools humanity will ever create that will become our partner in solving any challenge we want. And so I differ with, you know, Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk and Bill Gates. It's kind of hard to go up against those guys. But I disagree. I think that's, that's their, you know, amygdala speaking. And they've seen Terminator too many times. But at the end of the day, I am concerned about AI taking our jobs.

• 48:25Speaker 02

  I am concerned about AI and robotics disrupting a lot of our current jobs. I'm not concerned in the long term, because I think we're going to adapt society to that's fine. But in the near term, it's the rate at which we're going to be losing jobs, right? We've all, we've lost jobs over and over and over again. I remember the number, particularly in 1810. We had 84% of Americans were farmers. And today it's under 2%. Wow. 84% to 2% wiped out all those jobs. And of course, we became far more efficient. And now robots, robotic tractors and so forth will do the farming and such. And that's, that kind of magnitude change is fine of going from 50% of our jobs.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  I tell my sister all the time, who's an anesthesiologist, that her job is going to be replaced much better by an AI and robot, right? Than the human doctor. Right. And all surgery will be done by robots. And all diagnostics will be replaced by AIs. But it's the rate at which we do those transitions. Truck drivers, taxi drivers, all those things being replaced. And today, our meaning of our life is wrapped up in what we do. So the two issues with technological unemployment is how you earn your living and then what you do to create significance in your life. And so the first, I think, is going to be solved by universal basic income.

• 49:53Speaker 02

  I think ultimately, we're demonetizing the cost of living. It's becoming cheaper and cheaper to live. Right, so the example I give today is, you know, this device will eventually become your teacher and your healthcare provider for free. The same way that access to the world's information is available across the world for free. A car today, you know, I love my car and I'm not a car guy, but I love it. I love the Tesla, but I'm going to park it or get rid of it when autonomous Teslas and autonomous cars come online because autonomous cars are going to be 10 times cheaper and far more convenient.

• 50:36Speaker 02

  So we're going to give up car ownership for something that's 1/10 the cost. And then a whole bunch of things change. But how we deal with the significance of our jobs and our lives, that's going to be an interesting question. And so I'm concerned about that. I'm concerned about people feeling angry towards technology for disrupting their lives. And that's something I'm spending a lot of time thinking about these days.

• 51:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Did you read Fahrenheit 451?

• 51:03Speaker 02

  God, back in high school, I think.

• 51:05Tom Bilyeu?

  The thing I found really interesting about that, and it planted a seed in my head, was that there exists out in the woods, the people who so were unwilling to give up books, that they were more prepared to give up society. And so they move out into the woods. And that seems an inevitability as we, especially when I think about it, not so much as AI, but I think about it as human-machine interface. So as we begin implanting things into our brains that augment it, or even just as we begin messing with our own gene sequencing and people that, you know, refuse to start doing selection on genetic criteria for their babies and like eventually, they'll lose.

• 51:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, it just doesn't seem like it could go any other way.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  Eventually, those people will lose.

• 51:53Tom Bilyeu?

  The people who are the Luddites.

• 51:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, so it is true. I think we're going to split humanity into those who want to retain their old ways and that's been the case always. And those who choose to, if you would, plug in. And I think it's interesting because I've thought a lot about that and I've written about that. I think that once we are able to connect the brain to the cloud, and Ray Kurzweil puts that date as early to mid 2030s, right? 2033, 2035, time's check, that's, you know, 16 years from now, thereabouts. That's not very far away. I mean, 16 years ago was, you know, 2001, right?

• 52:39Speaker 02

  I mean, not, not, I remember it like it was yesterday. So, and of course, you've got amazing individuals like Brian Johnson with Kernel and Elon Musk with Neuralink and a whole bunch of other players out of Facebook, out of Google, working on this technology as well. It's about how do you enhance human intelligence? And then ultimately, you know, human intelligence is the most important thing we can have. And I think once you're able to enhance your intelligence and sort of plug into what I call the meta-intelligence, where you, if you plug into the cloud and I can know the thoughts of every man, woman, and child on this, on this world and know anything I want at any time,

• 53:20Speaker 02

  it's so powerful, so addicting, that I think to unplug from that would be to feel like you're, you're shut off and you're blind from the world.

• 53:34Tom Bilyeu?

  It's so interesting how much fear and anxiety people have over the change and, and all that. And my whole thing is you get where you focus on. So if you're focusing on that, then it's going to be big and scary. But at the same time, if you focus on the potential beauties of the, you know, billions of new minds coming online and being connected to them and the revelations that will happen. And as we really take control of the next phase of our evolution, like how interesting it gets. Have you read Homu Dias?

• 54:01Speaker 02

  I haven't yet.

• 54:02Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, Peter, you're going to love it. You're gonna love it. So I've become a total evangelist for this book, absolutely obsessed. Got to get the author on here. And he basically walks through sort of how the, the way the human mind works. You know my obsession with narrative and fiction. He does the most eloquent job of explaining that our Fictions, the stories that we tell are like David Foster Wallace's notion of this is water. Like they're so ever-present, these stories that we're telling each other, we don't even realize that they're stories. So one of the examples he gives is money, right? Money is an intersubjective truth. It is only real in as long as we Everybody believes it, right? The second people don't believe in it, like that, like it ceases to have any value whatsoever.

• 54:43Tom Bilyeu?

  And he said, and he lists like, I mean, just five, six, seven different narratives and one of the, that we're all taking for granted. And one of the most beautiful was how during the Crusades, the Christians and the Muslims lined up perfectly. And it's, it is in their symmetry, in that they're telling the same fiction, just from opposite sides, right? One true God, one true God, uh, that wants us to reclaim the Holy Land, that wants us to reclaim the Holy Land. The only part that's different is their true God is different than theirs, and so they collide and kill each other. But, and he talks about how if either of them, like the story had been different, like, oh, uh, pretending, you know, one true God, what he wants is for you to live in peace and harmony and landmass is totally irrelevant.

• 55:28Tom Bilyeu?

  When it meets this force that has to have the landmass, then, then they would acquiesce, right? It is only because they're telling the exact same story from opposite sides that you get the historic collision that we got. And he talks about how to anybody living back in that time, like it would have made sense, right? So if you're this kid growing up in England that's about to go fight the Crusades, the woman whose attention you want, like she's looking at you like, oh my God, you're going to go off to the Crusades and, you know, she's fluttering her eyelashes and their families like, oh my God, you're going to bring glory to the family and to the church. Like this is amazing. You should be doing it. But now, when we look back at it, it seems so absurd. Yeah. And so, and he says, there, you can take any time in history you want. And to those people, the fiction would have been invisible.

• 56:09Tom Bilyeu?

  It would have all seemed absolutely objectively true, and it was being mirrored back to you at every level of your society, to the point where you can't see it, but that with enough distance, you'll say, well, that was obviously ridiculous. And he said, so what do you believe in right now? That a hundred years from now will seem patently ridiculous. Yeah. Just got the chills. So it's like, that to me is when I look at the stories people tell them. Whether it's the Terminator, whether it's the Borg, whatever story they're telling about this scary future. It's like, okay, well, as long as you're in a group that's sort of self reinforcing that, I get it. I get why it seems like we have to. Like, we're already at war with AI, like emotionally, and it hasn't even been truly created yet. It's just, it's the other, right? It's the difference. So.

• 56:51Tom Bilyeu?

  How we get over that as a species is something that I find utterly fascinating. I don't think at all that I have the answer.

• 56:57Speaker 02

  And we're gonna find out during our lifetimes. I mean, that's the most incredible thing that I keep reminding people, like, wake up. The next 20 years, this game plays out. Right? Which is why I'm so convinced we're in the middle of a video game anyway. You know, it's, it's like, we're living during the most extraordinary times. It's all playing out. We're in the final phase of the gameplay. And we're right here, right now, clearly we're, this is a simulation.

• 57:24Tom Bilyeu?

  It's interesting. There are, I heckled you a little bit at X Prize when you brought that up. I wanna believe that because it fits so well with my like Matrix mythos. But for whatever, I can't get over time. And if somebody can explain to me. How either the people watching, because the only reason to do a simulation is to watch it play out. And if you don't live long enough to watch it play out, then there would be no point. So for us.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you could create a simulation, have it, have it play out at a billion times the clock speed.

• 57:51Tom Bilyeu?

  So that's where I.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  And, and replant it and restart it again. And, you know, this whole notion of parallel universes. I mean, the notion that, that. I mean, if I were a scientist trying to create a, if I could create a virtual computational world, right, using. Whatever, quantum computers and set up an AI inside and set the original conditions and let it play out and tweak the conditions and have it play out. And running Monte Carlo simulation.

• 58:20Tom Bilyeu?

  What's that?

• 58:20Speaker 02

  That it's a, it's a, it's a simulation in which you change. A few small variables and run a million of them in parallel or in, you know, a billion of them in parallel. Imagine a world in which in, in alien civilization, you set the starting conditions and, and, you know, literally let. An infinite number of these play out in parallel and then see what happens.

• 58:44Speaker 02

  I don't know, it's uh, I find these thoughts too compelling to just let go.

• 58:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I'm with you. The one that I think freaked me out was when I realized that um, the DNA first of all, is can be represented as zeros and ones, so already just life is, could essentially be digital code. But um, yeah, I find that stuff utterly, utterly fascinating.

• 59:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, and again, next 20 years dude. Um, anyway, it's just an amazing life. I consider myself so lucky to be alive right now.

• 59:20Tom Bilyeu?

  Exactly. Alright, before I ask my final question, where can these guys find you online?

• 59:25Speaker 02

  Uh, so diamandis.com is my website. I put out a weekly tech blog. I work a lot on this on Friday and Saturday, thank you. Um, and uh, on Twitter, I'm just uh, just my name, Peter Diamandis. You know, Singularity University, come and get involved in SU. Uh, we run programs for executives, for graduates, uh, xprize.org, X P R I Z E dot O R G. You know, we're taking on the world's biggest problems. Anyway, fun stuff.

• 59:57Tom Bilyeu?

  I love it. What's the impact you want to have on the world?

• 1:00:01Speaker 02

  Um, so, my MTP, what I call my massively transformative purpose, is to inspire and guide the transformation of humanity on and off the earth. And just to peel the onion there, um, I believe that we are undergoing a transformation as a species, from what we have today to this notion of a meta-intelligence. And that transformation is happening both on the earth and off the earth. I had to add that non-earth part for the child in me,

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  right? Uh, and I think that's gonna have to be inspired and, and properly uh, guided to, to have the minimal negative impact. I think this is happening. I think we are the lungfish coming out of land. I think we are speciating as a species. Uh, there's way too, the rate of change is way too high. And so I think about that.

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  I want to help make the human race a multi-planetary species. And for me, it's about changing the mindset of people from scarcity-minded to abundance-minded. I think that changes the game. When people go from, "No, it's all mine," to, "There's an infinite amount, let's share."

• 1:01:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Right.

• 1:01:24Speaker 02

  So, really.

• 1:01:25Tom Bilyeu?

  That's awesome.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  So far, so good. Having fun?

• 1:01:28Tom Bilyeu?

  I love it, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  Thank you, pal.

• 1:01:30Tom Bilyeu?

  Absolutely fantastic. All right. Guys, I'm telling you, this is somebody that you're gonna want to get to know at every conceivable level. I really believe that he is leading the world in terms of understanding not only where we are near-term future, where we could be, and how we're gonna get there into the future. And I think there are very, very few people that do it with a level of compassion, brotherly love. Like, one thing about this guy that you learn very quickly behind the scenes, like, he's got that Greek warmth. He is so kind, brings you into a big hug. It is amazing. And he greets the transition from where we are today to where we can be in the future with that same sense of love, compassion, empathy, and it's wonderful.

• 1:02:15Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't think there's anybody on the planet that I have met that would be better suited to do that, to introduce people to the technologies, the ideology, the things that we're gonna need to do. And he knows how to go raise the funds to actually make these companies real, to get them to be profitable. And most importantly, and this is the thing he will never get enough credit for, he has a huge, long-range vision, but he always starts with, "What do we have to do today? How do we do today, and then tomorrow?" One step after another, until the grand dream becomes very blasé, where you've seen him execute so many steps that it becomes an inevitability. I've never met anybody else as good as he is at that. And for that reason, I beg you, go learn from him. Don't even just listen to what he says, watch what he does,

• 1:02:57Tom Bilyeu?

  because that will highly instruct you in what you should be doing. All right, he and I are in the middle of a bet right now. It is the first to 3 million followers. And I'm begging you, help this man beat me. Go follow him. It will improve your life. I'm not kidding. Dive in, get to know him. And guys, if you haven't already, be sure to subscribe. And until next time, my friends, be legendary. Take care.

• 1:03:24Tom Bilyeu?

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