Golf R Review; Bentley's new EV SUV; Spyder vs GT3 S/C

Matt Farah and Zack Klapman review the VW Golf R; what they think about Bentley's new electric SUV, the Torcal; there's an update with the hotrod Porsche Boxster Spyder (and a GT3 order); and Patreon questions include: F/M/K: McLaren P1, La Ferrari, Porsche 918 What Leno's Law means Most embarrassing car (besides the Cybertruck)? Is a cheap $15k race car with blown motor a bad idea? Yay or nay: Used Lucid Air Are G8X BMW M3s a boring weekend car? Will the Highlander EV print money? Am I insane: I like manuals but not sports cars Recorded September 24, 2026 Show Notes: Avants https://avants.com/tst use code TST for 10% off your membership! Fitbod' Get 25% off your Fitbod subscription or try the app FREE for seven days at Fitbod.me/TIRE. Hims Ready to reach your goals? Visit hims.com slash tire to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you DeleteMe Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to www.joindeleteme.com/tire and use promo code TIRE at checkout. Truewerk Go to https//:truewerk.com/tire and use code tire to get 15% off your first order. TRUEWERK, Built Like It Matters. Want your question answered? To listen to the episode the day it's recorded? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast #cars #comedy #podcast Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman Click here for the most honest car reviews out there: https://www.youtube.com/thesmokingtire

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

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• 0:41Matt Farah?

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• 1:21Matt Farah?

  All right, on this episode of the podcast, I go over my ride in the Bentley Torquay, which has just been revealed. Zach and I review the Volkswagen Golf R. The Spyder is back and I'm having some thoughts about it. And our new giveaway car is coming and we are so, so excited to tell you about it. It's the Smoking Tire Podcast. Let's go. Woo. What's happening?

• 1:50Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 1:51Matt Farah?

  What's the word?

• 1:52Speaker 01

  The weather's nice. It's cooling down.

• 1:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but it was humid this morning. No wind, humid. And because of the fucking rains that we had, there's like a swarm of mosquitoes in West LA. It's like some real like West Nile crazy shit. Everybody getting bitten. I did a whole workout this morning. 30 minutes of cardio, an hour of weight training with a fucking citronella candle burning in my face.

• 2:18Speaker 01

  Lovely. It's like working out on a campsite. It's like you're Rambo.

• 2:22Matt Farah?

  When you do high altitude training, I do chemical inhalants training. That's how I get my lungs.

• 2:27Speaker 01

  That's how you restrict your oxygen is to just make, remove the oxygen with fire?

• 2:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, well, it's that or, you know, because the gym is in the garage. And if the manx is in there and it's a really hot day and I have like a third of a tank or less in the manx, like the fuel is on the lower side, lot of vapors, lot of vapors happening.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  Why more when it's low?

• 2:51Matt Farah?

  I don't know. I mean, the seal, the seal isn't great on the fuel tank. I mean, fuel doesn't splash out, but when it gets hot and expands, I think it, I don't know why there's.

• 3:05Speaker 01

  If there's less fluid, it takes less energy to heat it up and expand it and then vents out a bit maybe?

• 3:12Matt Farah?

  That, that, that tracks. My pseudoscience brain, RFK would go, yeah.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  But I mean, it does like, if you're boiling a kettle, the less water, the easier, the quicker it takes.

• 3:23Matt Farah?

  That tracks. That totally tracks. Yeah. So that's, so, so anyway, normally I can, it can be a little fumey sometimes, which is, you know, makes me stronger, makes my lungs good, healthy.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Sure. Yeah, that's how it works. That's still, I go too dark with it. I won't. Well, we might get more rain soon.

• 3:41Matt Farah?

  Do you think if I like rip a bubbler right before starting cardio, that's?

• 3:45Speaker 01

  Well, didn't they ban marijuana in some like endurance sports?

• 3:50Matt Farah?

  Which is, I mean, that's crazy.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Well, I think it really helps people with lactic acid. So they saw it as a performance. Yeah. It's so for you doing cardio.

• 3:58Matt Farah?

  Do you think I'm so good at cardio because I'm smoking ganja all the time?

• 4:02Speaker 01

  That's an A to D. I didn't say that. But I do think if you got stoned before cardio or if you didn't, you could do an A B test and see, do you get more tired, less tired?

• 4:11Matt Farah?

  Cardio without getting high first. Is that how you're trying to tell me? That would stink.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  That might be. Maybe that helps you lock into the zone of your, there's some, there's some funny guys on Instagram that will eat like 100 milligram edibles and do a marathon.

• 4:24Matt Farah?

  That's wild.

• 4:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:27Matt Farah?

  I mean, like I, cardio like on the elliptical does not require locking in. Like when I used to ride my bike on the bike path and I would, you know, go, I would ride a Rise Against Album south after, and like you're in the fucking zone. I mean, I'm essentially qualifying for the Monaco Grand Prix, you know, MotoGP.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  It's also like Tron for me. You're just like, just kind of enjoying moving around.

• 4:49Matt Farah?

  Oh my God. Cycling on the bike path in California. Cause it's like, it's like a canyon road. It's like Angeles Crest. It's curved. It's not straight. So you can like knee down, you're like passing people. You're, it's, it's, it's amazing. I got a lot of aggression about doing that.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  This is probably why so many people train in Colorado. They say it's for the high altitude, but I think it was for the weed. It's for the high altitude. Yeah, the altitude high. And now they have the mushrooms and that does not help, I bet.

• 5:15Matt Farah?

  Oh no. I mean, I've never actually looked into the lactic acid thing. I could tell you that like mentally weed doesn't make me better at sports.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Um, hmm.

• 5:26Matt Farah?

  It doesn't always make me worse, but it doesn't make me better. I'm certain it doesn't make, doesn't make me better golf, doesn't make me better at racket sports. It's, autocross is a tie.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  It probably, surely it depends on the person. Let's see. The World Anti-Doping Agency banned marijuana for competitive endurance sports.

• 5:47Matt Farah?

  Wow. Huh. How about that, Doc?

• 5:50Speaker 01

  I mean, if it works for pain, it works for pain, right? So you're just not paying attention. You're not as distracted by that.

• 5:57Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, for a fat guy, my cardio is good as shit. So maybe that's, maybe that's assistance.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  I've said before, if we ever like get in a crash way in the backcountry or whatever and we have to like hike out quickly, you hike out quickly and I'll stay.

• 6:10Matt Farah?

  No problem. I'm on it. Until my knee explodes. My heart will make it. My lungs will make it. My knees will not. Yeah, everyone's got their thing, man.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  All right. So give you my knees.

• 6:20Matt Farah?

  Um, yeah, we could, by our powers combined, we could be.

• 6:23Speaker 01

  I have so many Leathermans, Leathermen. So many Leathermen.

• 6:27Matt Farah?

  I have like three, one of which you gave me. And one, yeah, two of which you gave me. One was the one without the blade, which I continue to carry unfucking stopped through TSA every time I fly.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm glad that the rule remains the same.

• 6:43Matt Farah?

  No, no, they don't even notice it. That's a problem. They never ask.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  They don't even see it?

• 6:49Matt Farah?

  No, never. They never say anything. No one's, one person has asked since you got it for me, which is crazy. That's how bad TSA is. It look, because it looks exactly like the one that is a weapon and I'm carrying that motherfucker straight onto the plane. Um, yeah, that one. And then the one from your bachelor party that says I'm a tool on it.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  I forgot about that.

• 7:10Matt Farah?

  Was it your bachelor party or the wedding itself? Whatever, groom gift.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, groom gift. Yeah. It says I'm a tool.

• 7:15Matt Farah?

  Says I'm a tool. And that's the one that I use when not in air travel.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  That has a knife on it. That's got a bunch of, yeah, that's got a bunch of things on it.

• 7:26Matt Farah?

  That's a good one. Great bachelor, great groomsmen gift.

• 7:28Speaker 01

  I was very tickled by that idea because it's very me, of course. Yeah.

• 7:32Matt Farah?

  And scientifically accurate. Oh, we're talking about hurricane?

• 7:35Speaker 01

  Well, we might have more rain and mosquitoes coming because like the most powerful or second most powerful hurricane ever detected in the Pacific is happening.

• 7:41Matt Farah?

  That's cool. Yep. Nothing to see here.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Dude, we're hitting new high scores.

• 7:45Matt Farah?

  How far is it? I mean, in that map, it's like halfway between Mexico and Hawaii, right? It's like, where is it? What is that today?

• 7:54Speaker 01

  This is today.

• 7:55Matt Farah?

  So where it is in that photo is today? So it's going out?

• 7:58Speaker 01

  No, this is Saturday. This is Sunday. This is Monday. So right now it's down in the southern part of Mexico.

• 8:05Matt Farah?

  All right. Well, there's a lot of, a lot of ifs from here to there.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  I don't think we're going to get hit by hurricane. We just might see rain. That's all.

• 8:11Matt Farah?

  Well, we're getting humidity from it right now. Sticky icky.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  It's never been this humid for a month.

• 8:15Matt Farah?

  But I still picked up my car this morning from BBI and drove it home at the top down. And let me tell you something, Zach. I fell victim to one of the classic blunders.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 8:31Matt Farah?

  The most famous of which is of course.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  You love a Nigerian prince.

• 8:34Matt Farah?

  To never start a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  Never start a land war in Iran?

• 8:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  Okay. What were you gonna say?

• 8:42Matt Farah?

  The first part is from Princess Bride.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 8:44Matt Farah?

  Which, you know, same, same.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Proven true.

• 8:48Matt Farah?

  Maybe if somebody watched the Princess Bride, I don't know, it wouldn't be this fucking best.

• 8:54Matt Farah?

  There is a 0% chance that Donald Trump has seen the movie The Princess Bride.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  Well, when was it, when was it really famous? 80s?

• 9:05Matt Farah?

  It came out in 89 or 90, I think.

• 9:09Matt Farah?

  He maybe did have still some brain there, but no, probably not. He wasn't like being a dad.

• 9:14Speaker 01

  A girl he was dating might have been really into it, you know? She was like, can we watch this?

• 9:19Matt Farah?

  I bet. There's no fucking way he's never seen, he's never seen The Princess Bride. No way.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  He's not in it. His least favorite part.

• 9:25Matt Farah?

  That's true. That's true. That's why it sucks. There's gonna be some Grok remake.

• 9:31Speaker 01

  Everybody's saying Lucidino's so strong. He's not, no, it's Andre the Giant, my bad.

• 9:35Matt Farah?

  He could be the Billy Crystal character. Imagine he was doing the Billy Crystal character. You don't wanna laugh, but like it's a funny thing to picture, you know?

• 9:45Speaker 01

  It'd be him and DB.

• 9:46Matt Farah?

  He's a funny dictator. I mean, he is. So.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  He has good comedic timing. He has the wrong job for his skillset.

• 9:54Matt Farah?

  So anyway, I fell victim to one of the classic blunders, which is

• 10:01Matt Farah?

  while my car was off for like several weeks getting fixed, I drove the shiny new car, got very excited about it, got super excited about it, without asking myself and finding out for sure, is this new car really better than the one I have?

• 10:25Speaker 01

  Wait, can you, oh, so which car was in service? Cause you have, you have five in service.

• 10:29Matt Farah?

  The Spyder was in service.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  There we go. I thought, I thought you meant the Taycan. Okay, so Spyder's in service. You went and drove 911 GT3 SC. Loved it.

• 10:37Matt Farah?

  Loved it. Declared my love for it.

• 10:39Speaker 01

  You did.

• 10:41Matt Farah?

  But, but decided that in order to get one, it would be okay to sell the pink car over a period of the next 12 or 18 months. Came back, but I hadn't driven the pink car since driving it, cause it was getting fixed, which it is, it is fixed.

• 11:00Matt Farah?

  Computers are weird sometimes, but it's fixed. Here's the thing, the pink car's so much better. It's so much faster. It is so, so, so, so much faster.

• 11:16Speaker 01

  It's like 100 more horsepower.

• 11:17Matt Farah?

  At least. It's 100 more, it's at least 100 more horsepower. It's, and it's way more than the, this car makes, it's, this, my car makes 370 torque at the wheels. The new GT3 Wi-Soc or SC, whatever, the same motor, is 346 at the crank. And my, my peak torque is at 5,000 and the Wi-Soc is at 6,300. It's a very different thing. And my car's fast as fuck.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  It is. Sounds cool.

• 11:50Matt Farah?

  It also rides really, really good and it's very comfortable and like, it's actually quite a delight. The clutch is heavy, but like I'll, I think I'll live. You're not gonna do better, I don't think you can do better than that.

• 12:04Speaker 01

  Well, I'm gonna provide you with some information that one of our patrons gave us. Demand makes a GT3 engine.

• 12:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, I drove Tom's. I drove Segura's.

• 12:13Speaker 01

  Oh, so you could.

• 12:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, it was, it was, the conclusion was that it is, my conclusion was after driving it, is that it's diminishing returns with the GT3, because the GT3 engine, a Demand GT3 engine makes 25 more horsepower than my engine makes, right? But 25 less torque than my engine makes. But it starts with 100 horsepower more. So like the difference, a Demand GT3 is plus 50, plus 50. To do a Demand package on my engine, it's plus 150, plus 150.

• 12:56Matt Farah?

  So your, your value for money of taking your whole engine apart and doing all this shit with Demand is half with a GT3 as it is with my car.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  But if the Demand engine closes the gap between your car and the stock GT3?

• 13:11Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, but it, yeah, but it wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do it.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  Demand SC?

• 13:17Matt Farah?

  I wouldn't do it. I just wouldn't do it.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  I'm trying to spend, I'm just trying to spend your money.

• 13:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, I drove, I wouldn't, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't do it. And Rick knows I wouldn't do it. It's not, after driving Tom's car,

• 13:29Matt Farah?

  to spend 50% more money for a transformation that's half as big is not a good value to me.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  Yeah? Cool. Well, I'm glad you, I'm glad you like the car you have more.

• 13:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I like the car I have better, actually. For, for driving around here, you know, for being on vacation, not vacation, but for being on a fantasy trip in the fucking hills of Spain, you know, different story. Shiny, plus, my car has analog ga, real gauges, a lit, a small screen. It's not just like, eh, it has no like start-stop, you have to turn off. It's like, it's kind of, you know, it's got, it's got a lot of those things that you don't really need in any of the new cars, but they seem to have anyway. You know, there's a lot to like about my car that is like, a lot of things they're not doing anymore that like, they fixed and weren't broken.

• 14:27Speaker 01

  I think, cause the two advantages then that the SC has is one, the front end, but that like, how much do you really care? Not that much, I know.

• 14:35Matt Farah?

  I, you know, I care if I'm asked, do I care enough to throw the rest of the baby out with the bathwater? No, not really.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  No, the only, so I think the most important one then is the power top.

• 14:46Matt Farah?

  That is, that is kind of important, but like, huh, you know, you can't have everything.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  No, I'm just saying like when you start to look at actually compare them back, back and forth.

• 14:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah. When I got stuck in some traffic on the way home, I was like, this part sucks. But outside of that, cars, my car's smaller and it's got a lot of things I really like, like an analog fucking tack, you know, it's not a screen, a key, you actually turn the key to start it, you know? It's like, it's got enough of tech, all, all the modern stuff is, is great, but like, they haven't over, over screened it. It's not even wireless carplay. That's lovely. You just plug in the phone and then there it is. That's fucking good.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:29Matt Farah?

  Plug in any phone and there it is. You don't have to pair the phone.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  Yes. I like that a lot. I use it in my car all the time.

• 15:35Matt Farah?

  So I might,

• 15:40Matt Farah?

  our pal Ryan's from Sacramento,

• 15:45Matt Farah?

  got this power kit for his GT4 RS's stereo that are like, it's like, it's like better amps, like basically it's better amps that they, that you can make your factory stereo louder, which is actually the, kind of the one thing I need south of a, you know, no one's gonna do a power top on this car, so, and I can't do the clutch, so, but, but like, this thing is the shit.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, cause he has an RS and so, he needs more stereo.

• 16:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:15Speaker 01

  He has more intrusion than you do.

• 16:16Matt Farah?

  I have a convertible and a, and a very loud engine, so I need more stereo too.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  Cool. Yeah, that's true.

• 16:21Matt Farah?

  But, um, but it's, yeah, my car's just so much faster.

• 16:26Speaker 01

  Sounds cool too. It's very hot rod.

• 16:28Matt Farah?

  It's so much different. It's much more, much more like, uh,

• 16:33Matt Farah?

  you know, it's got a punch, which, which is, uh, you know, you don't have to be way at the top of the power band to use it. So anyway, you know.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  All right. So dealerships, stand down. Stop texting Ferraris.

• 16:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, I, you got, it's important, I think that just the takeaway is, you know, if you see the new shiny thing while your thing that you love is away.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:55Matt Farah?

  You know, you best check up on how you feel about the thing when it comes home before deciding, you've been, you know, you've been gone for a couple of weeks, I've forgotten about you.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, you make, make a purchase while the other thing's gone and then go, oh, shoot.

• 17:11Matt Farah?

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• 21:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, it did take that long. It was like two years. So I think for you, it's not like you're waiting a month for a service.

• 21:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it did take two.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  But you did almost, not almost, like you were very tempted to buy a car while your spider was away.

• 21:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 21:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's funny.

• 21:55Matt Farah?

  So silly. That's fun. It's like, we're all fucking dumbass monkeys, honestly. Nobody's safe.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  We are.

• 22:04Matt Farah?

  Nobody's safe.

• 22:05Speaker 01

  My, I talked to my father-in-law today, who, he's owned like 80 cars. He has a spreadsheet and it's like every six months.

• 22:11Matt Farah?

  Of course, he has a spreadsheet.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  Well, he made it, no, Sarah made it for him, actually.

• 22:14Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  She did. She sat down with him once and she was like...

• 22:16Matt Farah?

  I was about to say, I know where she gets it from.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  No, no, no, he's like me, more disorganized. But he's owned a lot of cars, but he's got this, you know, C2 Corvette. And he's like, I want to sell it, but I think the market's kind of like, dropped a little bit. I was like, yeah, buddy, like if you want to sell an old hot rod right now, today's the best day, tomorrow's the second best day. Like, you know, everyone in that market is kind of graduating on.

• 22:38Matt Farah?

  You know, we say that, and I, they're only, I know they only show the highlights, but I'm seeing like, can you go to Barrett Jackson's Instagram? Because they had a post that really, really had my, had me scratching my head. And it was results from a recent auction. Uh, that one with the black Corvette there. So they had this, this post is from five hours ago. So just, just look at some of these. Here's a 62 Corvette convertible. It looks like it's on maybe C6 Z06 wheels.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's black hardtop. Well, it's got the hardtop on it, black on black on black.

• 23:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  $465,000.

• 23:24Matt Farah?

  $465,000. Okay, now, now the next one. Here's a 63 Corvette split window on the ugliest torque-thrust ass wheels I have fucking seen in a long time.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Too big.

• 23:38Matt Farah?

  Real mismatched garbage. $418,000 this thing sold for. Next, a 65 Lincoln Conti that looks, I mean, pretty much like mint, but it says custom, don't know what's done to it, but $363,000 for a Conti.

• 23:59Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 23:59Matt Farah?

  Which, okay. Now we've got a 67 Corvette convertible with slightly better wheels.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  These are, but these are like Cobra wheels. These are what you'd see, yeah, they're Halliburton Cobra wheels.

• 24:10Matt Farah?

  But they're 18s, so they look weird and the stance is too high. But $363,000.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 24:18Matt Farah?

  And then you got a 56 Bel Air Custom, looks nice. I mean, it's got, you know, decent set of wheels on it, decent stance, looks, looks nice.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:26Matt Farah?

  Even in kind of an interesting color, unusual color, not, but...

• 24:30Speaker 01

  Well, it's a nice, like a deep green with a cream rear.

• 24:33Matt Farah?

  It's pretty cool.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  Top, very cool.

• 24:34Matt Farah?

  $236,000.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  This does look like, this bumper, actually, this whole grill.

• 24:40Matt Farah?

  Billet.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  It looks billet.

• 24:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  So I wonder if this is like a car that was custom-made for 500 or one of those, it could have been one of those things.

• 24:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it could have been, could have been. But look, and look at this, dude, 2013 Corvette. This is, this is like one of those things where they put one of those weird, wonky, mismatched bodies over like a C6 or C7 Corvette.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  You can tell, as soon as I saw the back, I went, this is, this is not right.

• 25:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  This is wrong.

• 25:06Matt Farah?

  225K for this shitbox.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  What?

• 25:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 25:11Speaker 01

  I'll throw in his money.

• 25:12Matt Farah?

  Dude, I just keep going. A 220K for a fucking Defender? I get it, but that's not, but that's awful. Uh, 220 for a 51 Cadillac? I don't know the market for 51, but that's just an original car. Uh, another Lincoln Continental convertible for 200K with giant ass wheels. And then look at this, a Ferrari 355 with an ugly ass wide body that will, I guarantee you drive like garbage. Because look at those deep dish wheels.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:44Matt Farah?

  At a splatter paint, paint job, 200K.

• 25:48Speaker 01

  This is, the rear is gonna rub.

• 25:51Matt Farah?

  That is not a drivable car.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  No, as soon as you hit a bump, that's gonna...

• 25:55Matt Farah?

  So I, I was, I was flipping through this earlier while pooping, and I thought to myself,

• 26:01Speaker 01

  I was there.

• 26:02Matt Farah?

  The boomers are definitely not dead yet.

• 26:04Speaker 01

  That's true, I guess. I would like more detail to know, you know, are these cars, were they, did they cost more to build? Or are they going, they're going up? I don't know.

• 26:12Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, even if they cost more to build, somebody spent $450,000 on that.

• 26:20Speaker 01

  Sure, but if they spent 600 building it and then they sell it for 460, that's not good.

• 26:25Matt Farah?

  No, it's not. But I mean, there's just, there's still a, like, I don't know if you or I or our friends, even given a huge budget, would be buying that.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  No.

• 26:35Matt Farah?

  That's what I'm saying. It's not necessarily just about like, yes, if some, someone probably spent at least that to build that and is taking a loss on it, almost certainly. But the kind of crowd that they are targeting, that's spending what is still enormous money on stuff like this.

• 26:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:50Matt Farah?

  Are gonna be some, some old timers.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 26:53Matt Farah?

  I hope it's got an automatic gearbox. Anyway.

• 26:58Speaker 01

  It's got a C600.

• 26:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like them, some, them is some boomer ass mobiles. Except for maybe that 355, I don't know who was buying that.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  That's, there's someone near my building that has an Altima that's wrapped in grant, like granite wrap. You know, the lightest of all stones, for sure. And but, and I just know that their brain was like, it's fancy, granite's fancy. So I got a granite countertop car.

• 27:22Matt Farah?

  Like marble?

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Oh, sorry, marble. I've said it wrong twice now. It's white with the cracks in it. So it's like a marble countertop Altima. They own a big scary dog. And the woman walking the dog, though, was like a 70-year-old art teacher. Unexpected. So I don't know who drives the Altima. Probably her kid. But this Altima looks so stupid.

• 27:42Matt Farah?

  Dick, can you please take a picture of that?

• 27:43Speaker 01

  Yes, absolutely. It's there all the time.

• 27:45Matt Farah?

  That's amazing. Uh, should we talk about our, our new giveaway car briefly? Should we talk about the Golf R that we both drove?

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Let's talk Golf R.

• 27:54Matt Farah?

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• 32:15Matt Farah?

  The 2027, although it might be a 26, I'm not sure. Did you look at it as a 26?

• 32:20Speaker 01

  I don't know, but they didn't change the car at all between, other than one color. So it's the Golf R.

• 32:27Matt Farah?

  And I like the color. It's the battleship gray. I like it because it's got the blue brakes and the blue accents, and I think that gray with that hit of that blue is nice.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 32:35Matt Farah?

  Especially with the blue interior. Or the blue, um, the blue plaid inserts, which there's a photo over there. But yeah, Golf R. Drove it for Performance Car of the Year last year. And I actually, you know, it's tough company in Performance Car of the Year, Lambos and shit, but, um, but actually, in a lot of ways, dynamically, the thing really punches far above its weight class. When you start driving fast in this, this is a very fast car, particularly on the road. You know what I mean? It's got, uh, you know, the two-liter, 300 horsepower, the dual-clutch gearbox, the all-wheel drive. It gets some fancy, not the rear diff from the RS3, but it gets the one from the S3,

• 33:19Matt Farah?

  which is like halfway to the RS3. And I wouldn't start drifting it. It's not that great.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  No, I tried to do that years ago for a show. It just doesn't work great.

• 33:28Matt Farah?

  Uh, but what I really like the most about this car is that, to me, it's like a very small, but still spacious, like luxury car. Like, it actually feels more like a luxury car than a sports car.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  The front seat room, I mean, I got in this thing after the EX30. One, the seats were much better, which I talked about in the last show. The seats in the Golf R, I think, of the last 10 years I've driven them, have always been great. Like, they're shaped well, the foam is nicely done. It's got like enough give to it. It feels really luxurious.

• 33:55Matt Farah?

  Mechanical lumbar. It's got the leather lumbar.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  Which is fine, because it means it won't break or kind of deflate like the one in my car. Um, I thought the ride in this was really good. For around this town, you know, it just, it soaks things up well enough, but then if you go on a track, they're still a really fun time. And they're, they're fucking quick. I mean, I think 060 is like four seconds.

• 34:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they don't feel that fast on a track, which is fine, um, because on a road, they feel really fast. Um, you know, with 300 horsepower, it dies off at 80, 90 miles an hour on the track. So we're actually, where we do Performance Car of the Year, Thunder Hill West, is a relatively short track without a lot of long straightaways. So it shines pretty bright there. Uh, but if you took one, you know, to Road America, you know, you're gonna be on the floorboard a lot.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:49Matt Farah?

  Having said that, they have, it has a very nice balance. It has good inputs. Um, I thought, the brakes are a little, were a little grabby when they were cold, but actually they got better when they were hot. But, and you can, you can, you know, set up the chassis nicely with the different modes, kind of individual mode you can, uh, you can play with and set it up how you like.

• 35:08Speaker 01

  The other thing, uh, the steering is like a little on the heavy manufactured side. I don't know if that's an alignment thing, but even coming out of like a parking garage, it was like, it felt like I had set a Camaro into sport mode, where it adds the weight.

• 35:21Matt Farah?

  It felt like it did that for me when it was cold.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  Oh, interesting. Maybe the fluid's cold.

• 35:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it felt like it did that, like, in the morning when I first started it up and like, was like back in and out of the driveway. And then after I drove it for a few minutes, it felt like that went away.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 35:41Matt Farah?

  It could have just been in my head. I mean, but you, I did experience that exact same sensation, but it sort of seemed like it went away. There's the seats. These are, that's a fabulous seat.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  It is a really, really nicely shaped seat. Um, and to back to your point, like, inside, when I got in it, like, the shoulder room, tons of it, really spacious in front, kind of like we've experienced with the S3, RS3. They, they make the back, you know, they, they save space in the backseat. Not that it's small, but like the front is really spacious.

• 36:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah, if you're not carrying people in the backseat, you can move the front seats way far back, which is sweet. Um, so I really liked it, you know, for an all-purpose car. I mean, you fold down those backseats, you could throw a bunch of boxes and stuff in there, or luggage. You can carry four people, uh, or maybe five. You've got the pass-through, you could do skis, you've got the all-wheel drive, so it can be your mountain car. Uh, you know, you probably want maybe two sets of wheels if you do that. Um, and, and it can be your sports car. I mean, they've got tunes for these things that, that make them very, very fast.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 36:45Matt Farah?

  And there's a very healthy aftermarket, and as long as you keep the power within reason, you know, they tend to not blow up. Um, all of which is great, and I happen to think it looks very nice.

• 36:56Speaker 01

  I think it's great looking, yeah.

• 36:57Matt Farah?

  Uh, but I could not, I'm still, I still have it until tomorrow. I, I can't figure out, like, the software in a predictable way. It's so confusing and annoying, and there's stuff that's just not there that should be there, and it kind of drives me nuts.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Uh, oops.

• 37:21Matt Farah?

  I don't have a photo of the software.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, so unfortunately, you know, this is still the generation where almost every control is a capacitive button or done through the screen. And like, the car, changing the car modes and those things, like, if you hit the R button on the wheel, it brings you the shortcut, thank God. But like navigating the screen on the inside is just a little bit convoluted. And I, I, even though now I know, like, the shortcuts for double tapping to this, turn the seat heater on and these things, I still hate it because it takes so much more precision to adjust those temperature controls, you know, the capacitive temperature control, the capacitive volume control next to it. It's all really annoying and just takes way more attention than just tapping a button or scrolling a knob or whatever.

• 38:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It, it, for the first few days, all I wanted was to pull up like the, the full list of Sirius stations, just one place, just list all. It, it doesn't exist. You, you go, you have to do radio, go radio, Sirius, and then category, and, and you just get rock, or hip-hop, or whatever. And you can't just scroll continuously through all of them. So Hannah, like, one day, spent like 25 minutes setting up like our, you know, 25 favorites. Favorites are fine, but like, you gotta have, you gotta, you gotta have the list.

• 38:46Speaker 01

  We like to scroll, for sure. And now, is this, is this an ownership problem, journalist problem? Or did she, did she ever find the function for just channel scroll?

• 38:54Matt Farah?

  There is, it doesn't exist.

• 38:55Speaker 01

  Doesn't exist.

• 38:55Matt Farah?

  No, it doesn't exist.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  See, that's really annoying.

• 38:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 38:57Speaker 01

  And like Volkswagen announced at the beginning of this year that they're gonna bring buttons back.

• 39:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 39:01Speaker 01

  I don't know when the Golf R will get it, or if, like, it's all speculative, but that, that's the only thing that gives me hesitation. Like, I got in this car, and I was like, this is in the top five list of cars I would replace the M3 with, whether it's this one or two years old or whatever. But it does so many things so damn well.

• 39:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  Except interacting with the technology in the car.

• 39:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And if you don't care about Sirius, and you're only gonna use your, your phone and CarPlay or Android Auto, all right, fine, maybe, maybe that's fine for you. But some of the other functions in the car, to change settings or to, like, like, as I was saying, I said in our, briefly on our last show, as I'm trying to fiddle with this fucking thing to find the, how to get to the right radio stations, because like... Once you find a radio station, it then pulls up the station thing and it says, shows you the album art and the artist and track, right? And I was trying to just like, go back to the list, or even just click to the next one. The only way to do it is to start that thing over.

• 40:07Matt Farah?

  Source, serious. And then you have to start that loop. And so as I'm doing that, I then get a pop-up window that says, you know, like, inattention detected. And it times you out, it blacks out the screen, and you can't touch anything for like 10 seconds. So it's this infuriating system that you can't figure out, that then punishes you further.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  For trying to figure out. Is there any way to control that stuff with the wheel, like the arrows on the wheel?

• 40:36Matt Farah?

  So the arrows on the wheel, you can only scroll through favorites. That's why. They always, I mean, I guess everybody does the favorites, but...

• 40:46Speaker 01

  I mean, I assume OEMs have done studies and shown that the more people just want to hear the channels they like, maybe we are the odd people out, but that's just our, that's our preference.

• 40:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and then the, to get the different, to get different bits of information on the gauge cluster screen was not, not intuitive to me. It was, the dynamics of the car, the build quality of the car, the styling of the car, the comfort of the car, all so good. Like, all so good. It was so frustrating that the software drove me so insane, because I liked so many things about the rest of it. It was like, a real delight to drive around.

• 41:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. I really enjoyed my time with it, except for these technological interactions where I'm like, this is such an asterisk on such a good car. And we know they did it across their product line, we've talked about like the rear window switches on ID.4s, like, they just made a lot of, in a world of unfortunate capacitive buttons, I think Volkswagen used them the worst. You know? Like, everyone did it, and Ferrari has them all over the place, but I think Volkswagen made some choices that made them even worse to use than other companies. But, I mean, but the car's great. And the aftermarket in this, this engine's been out for like, I don't know, 20 years, the E8888, forever. I feel like you can feel the constriction of like, the downpipe in this when you get to 70, 80 miles per hour.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  It stops pulling pretty quickly, almost surprised me, but I'm probably just spoiled. There's so much potential in these cars, you know?

• 42:22Matt Farah?

  We've driven some real fast versions of these things. So, you know, nice job on some of it. The software is, that software is rough.

• 42:31Speaker 01

  But, man, everything else is awesome.

• 42:33Matt Farah?

  I liked a lot of other things about it, though. I did.

• 42:36Speaker 01

  If you can live with it, great car.

• 42:37Matt Farah?

  Did you look up the price? I did not look up the price. Is it like 45? Is it less than a Civic Type R? Does it start with a 5?

• 42:44Speaker 01

  It starts with a 5.

• 42:45Matt Farah?

  It does?

• 42:46Speaker 01

  It's 50.

• 42:47Matt Farah?

  Oh, I was wondering when it was gonna get there.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  It is 50.

• 42:50Matt Farah?

  It is 50, yeah.

• 42:51Speaker 01

  It, it is a lot of a car. I mean, this is, I think I'd prefer this, well, the S3, no, the S3 had a volume knob, didn't it?

• 43:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the S3 actually does have a scrolling knob.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  That's tough. I mean, I like the hatch a lot, and a lot of other bits about it, but what is the S3 starting?

• 43:08Matt Farah?

  What about Integra Type S? Same price, or $1,000 more, $1,500 more, maybe for the...

• 43:12Speaker 01

  That starts at 55, basically, 54. And, let's see what Audi S3 starts at. Audi S3 starts at 52.

• 43:23Matt Farah?

  The RS3 starts at 52?

• 43:24Speaker 01

  S3.

• 43:25Matt Farah?

  Oh, the S3.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  S3's 52. But if you, if you build it out with some stuff, you're at 60 pretty quickly.

• 43:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but for like, 2 grand, if you get like, better Audi software instead of Volkswagen software, like, that's good.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  Let's see what the interior's like. I think, it just depends on the options. Like, this thing I think had heated seats, like, it's got, so I don't know, maybe this is even more expensive. It might be, but that's a question of loaded Golf R versus stripper S3.

• 43:53Matt Farah?

  I mean, listen, if you include stripper in anything, it always wins. You can put it up against, you know, Rolls-Royce versus stripper, I'm just gonna stop you there, Zach.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Right. Usually those two go together.

• 44:04Matt Farah?

  You need one to get the other.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Uh-huh, you usually do. Um, I just want a shot of the S3's interior.

• 44:10Matt Farah?

  I think it's probably better than the RS3, because it doesn't have a squeal. It probably has a round wheel.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  It does, with the flat bottom.

• 44:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, a flat bottom's okay. We, we're used to a flat bottom. Oh, yeah. Well, that's delightful.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, so this...

• 44:28Matt Farah?

  Can you zoom in on the dash there a little bit? How zoom can we get? Okay, so we have real buttons for climate control?

• 44:35Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:36Matt Farah?

  There's some, oh, it's like a scroll-y pad down in front left of the shifter.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  Uh, that might be for track selection.

• 44:45Matt Farah?

  But there's a proper scroll-y wheel on the steering wheel. Oh, that's what Audi does.

• 44:48Speaker 01

  That's much better.

• 44:49Matt Farah?

  Audi allows you to do an infinite scroll of the stations on the steering wheel, using the thing.

• 44:56Speaker 01

  And I love the scroll-y wheel on the, on a steering wheel for volume or track selection, because the Volkswagen is capacitive. Even though like, it's got some indent to it, it still is a capacitive-y thing.

• 45:07Matt Farah?

  I like this interior better.

• 45:08Speaker 01

  And this look, I think, is that a volume knob?

• 45:10Matt Farah?

  Yes, it is.

• 45:11Speaker 01

  Or is that...

• 45:12Matt Farah?

  Oh, or a cigarette lighter?

• 45:13Speaker 01

  It's gotta be a volume knob.

• 45:14Matt Farah?

  I think it's a volume knob.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  No one does cigarette lighters anymore, right?

• 45:17Matt Farah?

  I think it's a volume knob. I think.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  It's like we're looking at art, like, I feel like we're ancient aliens, and we're like, the pyramids might have been built. Yeah.

• 45:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you should, they should retrofit this steering wheel on the RS3, then you'd have a better car.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  I would rather have this interior than the Golf R. So if you are, you know, you gotta look at the options contest and then see what, you know, how much the price difference is, but I think this is worth a couple thousand dollars to have those controls.

• 45:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It drive good, though. So they Bentley launched the Torcal, showed it off finally, their electric SUV that's platformed, shared with the Cayenne. And, and I got to actually see it, see a prototype, and go for a ride in it, when I was up in Monterey for Supersports, which I was not allowed to talk about until, until yesterday, today. I will say, that the finished Torcal, the silhouette looks a lot better than I thought it would based on the prototype. The prototype looked very Cayenne-y.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 46:28Matt Farah?

  And it may have actually been Cayenne skin on the outside with Bentley interior fitted to it. I think it's missing a few things on the outside. It doesn't have the round headlights, those square headlights look almost like they're trying to be Rolls-Royce to me.

• 46:47Speaker 01

  The front looks very Rolls-Royce at a quick glance, except that I think, I haven't seen it in person, and I know that judging a car from pictures is sometimes a flawed exercise, but I just think that the size of the headlight with this vast empty space below it, looks weird.

• 47:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 47:05Speaker 01

  But yeah, the shape of the whole front does remind me a lot of Rolls-Royce. I think Bossom said, he's like, yes, people think that, but when you look back at like, Arnage and other things in Bentley's lineage, yes, they do also have like, a flat face grill. So it's not, this is in their history.

• 47:21Matt Farah?

  No, it's not the flat face grill, I think if it had round lights, like, the Bentley's, a Bentley is a flat face grill with four round headlights, to me. I mean, it doesn't mean, I guess, it always has to be. But like, if you look at the, look at the front of any modern Bentley, you know, it is an upright front face, but you have the round lights.

• 47:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, whereas the Cullinan is like...

• 47:43Matt Farah?

  Has the square lights, squinty square lights. And actually, the Phantom does as well.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 47:48Matt Farah?

  So these look more like Rolls-Royce lights than they do Bentley lights, but I think the side profile is pretty nice. And the rear, I'm gonna wait on until we see it in person. The rear's got, got an interesting, this, this sort of...

• 48:06Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I think it's kinda cool.

• 48:09Matt Farah?

  The box over box that people seem to be doing right now, it's like an aero outer.

• 48:15Speaker 01

  This kinda thing?

• 48:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I don't hate it, but the camo car didn't show, didn't really show it at all, so I don't really, I don't really know what it looks like in three dimensions.

• 48:29Speaker 01

  So for people listening, it's almost like the rear fenders have an exit vent at the back that is on either side of the tailgate. I think that's a very good look in rear end, I think it's, I think it's much cleaner than the front. The front's got like, these crystals, and then the half-light thing and stuff, this back looks really good.

• 48:44Matt Farah?

  It is clean. It's got a Range Rover cleanliness to it, I think.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 48:49Matt Farah?

  Which is nice. So it's, it's, it's about the same size, obviously, as the electric Cayenne, which is lower and wider than a, either a Bentayga or a gas Cayenne. Five-seater. The, go to the interior, because they did show us the interior, and we got to touch it, and I had some thoughts about it, because it's, it's different. Now, I sat in it, and there were covers on the seats, and I was like, these are Porsche seats. They felt like Porsche seats, they didn't feel like Bentley seats.

• 49:32Matt Farah?

  And as you can see, if you can see on the dashboard, you don't have the big chrome round vents, and you don't have the beautiful trumpet pushers, what do you wanna call those?

• 49:44Speaker 01

  Those control the vent flow, right?

• 49:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the things that open and close, there's beautiful plungers, they're amazingly damped, and they're made of metal. And you don't have that. And what you have instead is the digital air vents, where you control them from the screen. And the screen is the same as the Cayenne, it's got this curved screen, which is an OLED. That in itself, isn't so bad, I don't, I don't hate the curved screen.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  No, I think that's a nice piece of design, and I think it marries well with the exterior in terms of like, the softened curves. I like that way better than the separated screens, like that Audi had.

• 50:19Matt Farah?

  Right. But, I really, the...

• 50:27Matt Farah?

  So here's what happens when Genesis copied Bentley and did that sort of crystal-like knobs and crystal-like and diamond knurled-like knobs, but sort of cheapened it a little bit.

• 50:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:46Matt Farah?

  A little bit.

• 50:47Speaker 01

  Well, the texture on this puck is like diamond-shaped.

• 50:51Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 50:51Speaker 01

  But made of plastic or aluminum or something, yeah.

• 50:53Matt Farah?

  So this Bentley in this car has their clicky knobs there. So the climate control ones look like scrolling wheels, but they're actually click knobs, which gave me real Genesis vibes. They look scrolly, but they're not.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  These?

• 51:15Matt Farah?

  Yes. Those look like scrolly wheels.

• 51:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:19Matt Farah?

  But they're click knobs.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 51:21Matt Farah?

  Which feels cheap. And that big central knob is made of some kind of clear lucite or something, which isn't actual crystal, and it feels like a Genesis knob, actually. And it has a full digital cluster, of course, which does this. You see the light coming out of the cluster? See what's happening there?

• 51:47Speaker 01

  This?

• 51:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Wasn't that not just cast from the window?

• 51:49Matt Farah?

  Oh, is that reflection?

• 51:50Speaker 01

  I think that's a reflection.

• 51:50Matt Farah?

  So maybe there's, so it's a coincidental cast, because the cluster has this thing that they were bragging about, where they got real video of light being shined through crystals. And it creates this twinkly effect on the speedometer. As the

• 52:15Speaker 01

  What?

• 52:15Matt Farah?

  As the speed goes up, it like twinkles and makes, it's like a crystal. But it's fully a screen, right? Like, it's not a gauge cluster made of crystals. It's a screen that has a effect that looks like crystals. And so it's like digitized luxury, you know, instead of six and three-quarter V8 or whatever.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  So is it like, you know, the old, the Phantom's roof with the starlight ceiling? It was individual fiber optic that went through the fabric?

• 52:50Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 52:50Speaker 01

  And now this is like you added, the whole roof was a TV, and they would do sparkly digital effects instead?

• 52:57Matt Farah?

  It's the front gauge cluster.

• 52:58Speaker 01

  I know it's the gauges, but like, that's the same thing.

• 53:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's like going from those individual fiber optics to the projector that just projects it at.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  For $12 on Amazon.

• 53:08Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  I have one, yes.

• 53:09Matt Farah?

  Now, so that, that all, and it's not that it feels cheap. It's an interesting effect. But when you're doing a Bentley, and you don't have an engine or a powertrain to really set you apart, in my opinion, you really gotta crank up the tactile shit. So like, more knobs and like, less screens, you know, as much tactile as you can. Now, one thing they did get right, that's really cool, is the sound, like the fake sound. Because

• 53:50Matt Farah?

  it sounds exactly like my Turbo R. What's funny about the old Bentley six and three-quarters is they like, when you drive around in an old Mulsanne with one, or a Turbo R that has one, or a Continental that has one, they just sort of like wafted between like 1,500 and 2,100 horsepower, 2,100 RPM. Just like, ooh, like, it's not like they rip through gears, you know, it's not like they do big downshifts or rev up all that much. It's just this sort of ambient tone that it makes in between this pretty narrow RPM band, that

• 54:35Matt Farah?

  I can only really describe as sounding like somewhere between a train and a steamship. It's a real chugga-chugga. And they, it's perfectly, it's the perfect type of engine to fake and digitize and make into an ambient noise. Because driving it around in your ears sounds exactly like a Turbo R. Which is like, super, super, super cool, actually. It's maybe the best fake exhaust I've ever heard.

• 55:05Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 55:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's really cool. Really cool. They apparently had drummers play the, play it.

• 55:12Speaker 01

  Like, try to recreate the soundscape of the engine?

• 55:15Matt Farah?

  Recreate it using drums.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 55:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  All right.

• 55:18Matt Farah?

  In order to, because if they had a computer do it, they said, when they had a computer do it, it was too perfect. And the six and three-quarters, like, the sound of it, it's slightly imperfect. And they needed to like, humanize it a little bit to make it less perfect.

• 55:34Speaker 01

  Weird.

• 55:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  It's like the guitar on Never Gonna Give You Up.

• 55:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 55:38Speaker 01

  Terrible. Terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible.

• 55:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 55:41Speaker 01

  Uh, okay.

• 55:43Matt Farah?

  So that was really cool. And it does have, you know, I forget what they're calling it, but it's Active Ride, the hydraulic, this hydraulic suspension that Porsche's got. But they did not include the helicopter mode, which to me makes no sense at all. I don't know why.

• 55:59Speaker 01

  Weird, considering you have the Active Ride. Maybe Porsche was like, no, no, we have to keep this.

• 56:02Matt Farah?

  I don't think so.

• 56:03Speaker 01

  Hmm. It's, so, but they're gonna keep making the Bentayga, right?

• 56:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so maybe the Speed will have it or something.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  Well, I was gonna say, I'm wondering if the lack of pushers and whatnot, is they wanted to, if this is the technologically advanced version of the Bentley SUV, electric powertrain, do they go, well, maybe these old, like, old methods of push-pull activation for vents and things, we should have something more, quote, "modern" or "future-looking", just to further separate the cars? Because at this price point, the people don't care about fuel costs, right?

• 56:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 56:36Speaker 01

  It's just about like taxes in London. So if they're gonna

• 56:39Matt Farah?

  Maybe.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  If they're gonna choose the EV, they might also want something that feels totally different from their Bentayga. I don't know.

• 56:44Matt Farah?

  It could be. I have a more cynical view of it, which is, they wanted to come in at cheaper than the Bentayga. Their platform sharing with the Cayenne, the Cayenne uses the digital air vents, it's easier to just tap into that system.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  That is true.

• 57:03Matt Farah?

  And cheaper. And most, most people won't complain about it the way that I will. You know?

• 57:11Speaker 01

  Uh, let's see, it's priced about the same, I think, entry level as, uh, 10 grand less than Bentayga.

• 57:19Matt Farah?

  Oh, well, they, I guess they oversold that it was cheaper than Bentayga, but.

• 57:23Speaker 01

  I mean, it is, yeah, it is. So that's all they need.

• 57:25Matt Farah?

  Also, they may have said that, like, there's multiple trim levels of Bentayga, and there's only one trim level of this.

• 57:31Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 57:32Matt Farah?

  So, you know, maybe once you start adding any, any options of consequence to Bentaygas, they get more expensive rapidly.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  They get up to, over the threes really quickly.

• 57:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 57:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:43Matt Farah?

  So, look, I only went for a ride, I didn't go for a drive, but I drove the Cayenne right afterwards, and it was nuts. It was really, really fast, like, really fast. And I'm sure this will, will drive nicely as well. But it, you know, why would I want, I'm not sure why I would want to go with a Bentley that really shares all its guts with a Porsche in a, in a way that it's not perceptibly different, because you've got the Bentley.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  Well, but

• 58:17Matt Farah?

  And doesn't have as much whimsy to it either.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  But so, I think that's important to us, for so many people at this price point. Like, it's about when people see them pull up, and then people see the Bentley badge, so that's what matters more to them.

• 58:29Matt Farah?

  Sure. Sure. I get it. They'll probably sell them.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, probably.

• 58:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and I want to drive it. I'm sure it's nice to drive, you know, just like the Cayenne was. But I wish it was more, a little more tactile and whimsical.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:44Matt Farah?

  And a little more Bentley, and a little less Porsche. But, uh, yeah. Shall we go to the people?

• 58:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's do that.

• 58:55Matt Farah?

  Oh, and before, while you're pulling that up, dude, the new, our new giveaway car is arriving next week.

• 59:02Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 59:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 59:03Speaker 01

  It's quick.

• 59:03Matt Farah?

  So, and it's actually not the original one that I thought it was going to be. Our new giveaway car is a 2025 Carrera T. That's a, that's a dot two, 992 dot two. So six-speed manual Carrera T with 18-way seats.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 59:25Matt Farah?

  And the aero kit.

• 59:26Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 59:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 59:28Speaker 01

  That's a good one.

• 59:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 59:29Matt Farah?

  And the color, I do not recall the name, but it's the dark battleship gray.

• 59:37Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 59:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So I'm actually extremely stoked. I have already spoken with John from Flat Six Motorsports, who will be providing us his 600 horsepower kit, along with some suspension goodies.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 59:58Matt Farah?

  BBI Autosport is going to throw in a few more goodies. HRE is going to do some wheels. And I insisted this time, we get wheels that are actually lighter than the wheels that came on the car. I said, I would like, I would like creative control over that choice, please.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Good idea. This car will be so fast and fun.

• 1:00:18Matt Farah?

  This car will fucking rip.

• 1:00:19Speaker 01

  These are such good cars. Yeah.

• 1:00:21Matt Farah?

  This is gonna be a very, very fast and fun car.

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, very, very cool.

• 1:00:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's, it's not, it's not a zero-mile car. It has like, I think it's got 3,000 miles on it.

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:00:31Matt Farah?

  So.

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  Great, we don't have to break it in before we do the things to it.

• 1:00:34Matt Farah?

  We don't have to break it in. We can go, we can go straight at it.

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  Awesome. That's really rad.

• 1:00:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  911 Ts are so fun.

• 1:00:40Matt Farah?

  This is gonna be a serious piece of hardware, this thing.

• 1:00:43Speaker 01

  Well, yeah. Unlike our last car, which was slow. Should we do a quick announcement about the Miami thing?

• 1:00:48Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 1:00:51Matt Farah?

  It was pointed out to me and Zach by some fans that my messaging about our live podcast at the Time to Drive Festival in Miami in November was not accurate because I was saying your ticket to the show, to the, your ticket to the festival gets you into the podcast. And as it turns out, that is not the case. Apparently, the festival is going to be thousands and thousands of people. Our, our room where our podcast is, in order to prevent it from being, you know, a shit show, is a separate space and it has to be a separate ticketed

• 1:01:32Matt Farah?

  event in order to, for everyone who's there to have a good time and not have people just wandering through like it's a trade show, right? And so, but I didn't know they were charging for them. That, that was actually new to me. And so, while I don't actually have control over them charging the tickets for the, for the extra tickets for the public, what I was able to do was convince them to get us a code for our patrons, so that if you are a patron, you'll be able to enter a code at checkout and get the ticket for free. It'll be 100% discount code.

• 1:02:15Matt Farah?

  And then that way, if, if, at least if you're a TST patron, it doesn't, it's not backdated or anything. It's like at the time of, at the time of purchase, if you're a TST patron, you'll be able to use this code and buy a ticket.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  And we'll do any tier. Doesn't matter. Just patron at any tier. So.

• 1:02:33Matt Farah?

  The intention was not to charge money for the show. That, it came, this came up later and we're doing a workaround and I'm sorry if that somehow inconveniences everybody. It was not my intent to, to give bad information or, and I'm not, whatever money they're collecting, I'm not getting.

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  No, we didn't, we didn't know about this. A fan DM'd me and I was like, you know, so we remedied it literally in a couple of hours.

• 1:02:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So anyway, if you are a patron and you want to come to our live show in Miami, you will be able to get a free ticket using the Patreon page, the code that we give you. So stay tuned for that. I'll have it, I'll have that soon. And thank you for, for checking that one for us because I don't normally get tickets to my own shows. So I wouldn't have known otherwise. So yeah, thanks for letting us know. And of course, we're also going to be doing a live show at Willow Springs Reimagined, the big car festival out at Willow Springs Raceway. And that show, your, is included with the purchase of the ticket for certain. I checked. And come on out. There's going to be vintage racing. There's going to be

• 1:03:43Matt Farah?

  a celebrity race. There's going to be a bunch of heavy hitters hanging out. And it's a really good time out there at Willow Springs. It's a great day. Bring the kids, why don't you? I think we have a, I'm not doing any driving out there. I might have to have a Bloody Mary. Might be one of those Bloody Mary days where I have Hannah drive me out there.

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  That's not a bad idea.

• 1:04:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. Walk around and be a little saucy.

• 1:04:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Could you fucking, I would say helicopter, except I'm done. I don't know, no more helicopters.

• 1:04:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:13Matt Farah?

  Don't need to, that's not even. Don't like it.

• 1:04:18Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't mind the drive.

• 1:04:19Matt Farah?

  No, out there? No, it's easy.

• 1:04:21Speaker 01

  That's easy.

• 1:04:22Matt Farah?

  No problem. Let's go to the people, patreon.com/the-smoking-tire-podcast. It's where you ask questions for the live show and then subsequently watch the live show. It's where you get extra show every month. It's where you can get the show without ads. It's where you can get exclusive early access to collabs and things, merch reviews such as the Tactile Turn Pen. I don't know if there's any left. We put it up for the public, well, it'll be today, right? Thursday. So hopefully, there was limited to 100 units. So if there's any left, go over to the, the link in the show notes and grab one. The bronze patinates over

• 1:05:04Matt Farah?

  time. And it's a bolt action gel writer designed by yours truly. Love it. Cayman Cider, great, great one to start with. Fuck, marry, kill, P1 LaFerrari 918.

• 1:05:20Speaker 01

  Marry the 918, fuck the P1, kill the LaFerrari for me.

• 1:05:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:26Speaker 01

  I've just never been into, into that, into the LaFerrari. I don't know what it is. They look huge. I don't know. Just, they don't captivate me.

• 1:05:34Matt Farah?

  Uh, I'm the same as Zach. Quadrofolia Face, what modern car other than the Cybertruck would you be most embarrassed to be seen driving?

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  Hmm. I had an answer and I forgot it.

• 1:05:49Matt Farah?

  I would almost say like Hummer H1, but there, it's almost back around to ironic cool. Um, one of those, um, one of those like six by six conversions.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Yes. With the long deal, the one with like, anything six by six that's also convertible is just trying super duper hard.

• 1:06:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  That's pretty bad.

• 1:06:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah. But outside, most embarrassed?

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  Hmm. I thought of this ahead of time. I totally forgot.

• 1:06:18Matt Farah?

  Take a lot to, actually embarrass me with a car. That would be difficult.

• 1:06:22Speaker 01

  Hmm. If we put you, well, it depends on the environment too. Like TRX in Tokyo. That's embarrassing. Yeah.

• 1:06:32Matt Farah?

  I was, uh, I took, I had, I took a Tesla Uber today, a Model S, and the guy had the yoke going down to get my car. I'm watching this guy steer and I'm like, it's, it's clearly harder to do this than if it was just a regular. It was a weird guy too. He's also like mumbling to himself a lot. Like, I think he was listening to some kind of self-help thing in like one ear, in his ear I couldn't see. And like doing, doing a course or some shit.

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  A lot of the drivers also talk to friends while driving.

• 1:07:02Matt Farah?

  This guy was talking too quiet to be talking to friends, to a friend. He was.

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  I wonder what the class was then? That he had to, he had to respond. Or maybe he's just like saying it out loud so he remembers it.

• 1:07:14Matt Farah?

  Honestly, I was just glad he wasn't FSDing, frankly.

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  It's like Tony Robbins says.

• 1:07:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Um, Double Shuffle Retirement Club, what is the best time of year and location in Florida to go Iguana hunting? Uh, it's year round, baby. Uh, Marty's Place Iguana Safari Tours is in Delray Beach, which is near West Palm Beach. Uh, it's about 35 minutes north of the Fort Lauderdale Airport out there. South Florida, southeastern Florida. Where the old people live. That's where the Iguanas are at. Murray Long Last Name says, oh, I mentioned Guinness barbecue sauce before. Is that on here? No, it predated not only

• 1:07:57Matt Farah?

  the Patreon, but also the podcast, I think. No, I, I, I mean, honestly, I probably just like Googled Guinness barbecue sauce and, you know, added a couple of different spices or something in there. That's usually what I would have done. It's, if you like, if you just Google Guinness barbecue sauce, like you will get a solid base from which to make your own modifications. If I had a good recipe for you for barbecue sauce, I would put it up. I definitely would. You had me at Halotus. On a scale from financially irresponsible to my wife gets to use this as evidence in

• 1:08:38Matt Farah?

  court, how bad of an idea is it of buying a 997.1 S Carrera, 997.1 Carrera S race car for 15K?

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  That sounds good, but keep reading.

• 1:08:50Matt Farah?

  Built by demand in 2011, meticulous records, 30K in maintenance since 2023, and a blown motor.

• 1:08:59Speaker 01

  There it is.

• 1:09:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah. The problem is the, is the motor.

• 1:09:05Speaker 01

  Yes, it is.

• 1:09:06Matt Farah?

  Obviously. Yeah.

• 1:09:07Speaker 01

  I mean, because then the question is, how much is it to get a replacement engine and put it in? Or can you, can this person put it in? And that's assuming the rest of the car is fine.

• 1:09:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  And I also, I don't know what a, a 997 race car with a working engine costs. Is that 20 grand and the engine is already in it? Or is it way more expensive? And, and you're picking up someone's problem? I don't know.

• 1:09:28Matt Farah?

  I'm not sure if it matters if it was built by demand if the motor's blown.

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  That's a good point. What did, what did demand do? Their, their main thing?

• 1:09:36Matt Farah?

  They can build the chassis, you know, and maybe he fine tuned it, but I'm not sure that matters now.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  That's a good point.

• 1:09:42Matt Farah?

  I mean.

• 1:09:47Matt Farah?

  Here's actually the thing. For 15,000 bucks, if it doesn't need much else, right? Like if it's a set of tires and an engine away from being on the track. Right? You could find from a dismantler. Like right now, like Marco is moving one shop to the other. I guarantee you, he has a 997 S, 997 engine just sitting on his fucking shelf.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  I bet he does too.

• 1:10:23Matt Farah?

  Like that, what you need to find is a shop somewhere, like whether it's your local shop or a performance shop, that would have taken a motor out of another car. And it has it sitting around. Matter of fact, Demand has like 25 takeout engines just sitting on their racks last time I was there. So like, I don't know what it actually costs to get an engine, but like, I'm guessing it's 20 to 30 to put a motor back in that car. And you could probably buy a running, driving, ready to go one for like 50. So it's probably a wash and you lose the time of your like headache.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  So I was on Racing Junk trying to find a comp for it. And yeah, I can't. So it does seem like, based on this very quick research, that that is a good deal if you put an engine back in it.

• 1:11:23Matt Farah?

  If you can put the engine in sort of yourself and just have to buy the engine.

• 1:11:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, or if you can score the engine at a good deal and have someone put it in for a few thousand dollars. And that's assuming the engine explodes, did it damage anything else?

• 1:11:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:39Speaker 01

  You know, if a piston flew through the block, did it cut a brake line or did it cut a shock line or whatever? Like you need to look into all that stuff. Depends.

• 1:11:47Matt Farah?

  I would plan for like 30 to 40 to get that car back on the track if it doesn't need anything else. You know?

• 1:11:57Speaker 01

  Maybe, yeah, I don't really know what Porsche engines are costing.

• 1:12:01Matt Farah?

  They're expensive.

• 1:12:01Speaker 01

  Yeah?

• 1:12:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're expensive.

• 1:12:03Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 1:12:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, air cooled ones are even more. Thad told me that they're gonna look into sell. They've got a bunch of like 32 Carrera motors that they've taken out of stuff. And he's like, even a shitter is 25K.

• 1:12:17Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:12:17Matt Farah?

  For one that like, for that's like, you would take it and then rebuild it. Like, you would not take it and put it in a car.

• 1:12:24Speaker 01

  The air cooled cost is crazy.

• 1:12:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Make that ass clap.

• 1:12:29Speaker 01

  This one's great. I love this name.

• 1:12:31Matt Farah?

  Very good fucking.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  Make that ass clap.

• 1:12:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you gotta pronounce it right. I got it, I got it. Is now the best time to buy a Lucid Air used at a steep discount or are we far from the floor? My friend, like that ass, the floor is zero. Like you need to understand something about electric cars. The floor of an electric car is zero. So the closer you get to the floor, the slower the fall happens, right? Cause as long as you have a running, driving car, you know, it'll, it'll level out, you know, but like, if it's 30 now, it will eventually be five. So you know, it's not always gonna be 30.

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  As long as it keeps working. Cause my concern with Lucid is also they're, they hired a bankruptcy expert, I think a few months ago, like.

• 1:13:21Matt Farah?

  It's a good sign.

• 1:13:22Speaker 01

  So will the support be there to?

• 1:13:24Matt Farah?

  I had a record year last year and I was like, just in case.

• 1:13:28Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:13:28Matt Farah?

  You know, it keeps your staff on their toes.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  That's pretty funny. Bring consultants in.

• 1:13:34Matt Farah?

  They think the layoff is imminent, but actually we're.

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  What would you say it is you do here? Efficiency expert. I'm just, I'm shy about buying one of those because I'm worried about the support system. So that would make the, whoever can come and repair your floor as it descends to zero might just disappear. And there's a reason they're super discounted. I would look at something else. Unless you have a shop that's like an independent EV repair shop, like the people that keep the Fisker Oceans going. If you have access to that, then you can gamble. But if you don't, you might be buying a paperweight.

• 1:14:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So you know, prepare for zero.

• 1:14:13Speaker 01

  Prepare for zero or prepare for something that will stop working and then it's worse than zero.

• 1:14:17Matt Farah?

  Right. And you have to get rid of it. But like, but if you prepare for zero,

• 1:14:23Matt Farah?

  if anything above zero happens.

• 1:14:27Matt Farah?

  We're in good shape. No problem.

• 1:14:31Matt Farah?

  Short-fingered maggot.

• 1:14:34Matt Farah?

  Is a G80X BMW too boring to have as a fun car? I've always loved the BMW M23 and it's a spec, it's a dream of mine to spec and order one.

• 1:14:48Matt Farah?

  Well.

• 1:14:51Matt Farah?

  I mean, if you love one, then it would be special. Like it's not, they're not boring cars. They're fast as shit.

• 1:14:58Speaker 01

  They're fast, they're tight, they handle really well. And this person has a Ranger Raptor and a GTI. So you have your, I mean, your collection's pretty cool, but like you have your dailies. So you would only drive this a few days a week. I think that will keep it feeling special. If you've always wanted one, you're gonna like it. It's a really fast, exciting thing.

• 1:15:16Matt Farah?

  If you look at it and think you'll like it, you probably will. I'd rather have the one from 2021 or 2020.

• 1:15:24Speaker 01

  The F80?

• 1:15:26Matt Farah?

  No, the M2CS, the last one.

• 1:15:30Speaker 01

  I forget, it's 87 or something?

• 1:15:32Matt Farah?

  I don't know what the hell it is, but it's the, the old M2 with the dope ass looking wheels.

• 1:15:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like 2021.

• 1:15:40Matt Farah?

  21?

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'd rather have that as well, but the CS, they stayed very expensive. They're still like 100Gs.

• 1:15:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, for a reason.

• 1:15:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:48Matt Farah?

  We have the CS in Performance Car of the Year this year. So actually I'm gonna get to try it again in the context of all the cars.

• 1:15:55Speaker 01

  I'm curious.

• 1:15:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I didn't love it when we had it.

• 1:15:57Speaker 01

  We didn't, but like the Savage Geese guys liked it a lot in their test. And so I just haven't talked to them about it. I saw their video. So I'm curious about their notes.

• 1:16:05Matt Farah?

  I mean, they usually hate everything.

• 1:16:07Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:16:07Matt Farah?

  So.

• 1:16:08Speaker 01

  I know. But I read that, I went, huh. Disagreement.

• 1:16:12Matt Farah?

  You see the clip of the Throttle House guys with the Valhalla doors?

• 1:16:16Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:16:16Matt Farah?

  If you, I think it's on their Instagram, if you, if you, if they have the camera on the nose of the car looking back at the two of them through the windshield, like the shot that we do. And it's like a central, it's like a central shot looking back. And it's, I think it says a reel. Oh, this. Yeah, look, look, look. Look at the doors. When you open the doors, it draws a dick shadow across their face.

• 1:16:43Matt Farah?

  Is that awesome?

• 1:16:46Matt Farah?

  It's just like two porn star cocks.

• 1:16:50Speaker 01

  Absolutely accurate.

• 1:16:55Speaker 01

  Those guys, to notice that and capture, I mean, this is why they are where they are. But that is really an accurate description. Good lord. Go to the Throttle House, it's in their story, it's their second panel. And they give you plenty of opportunity to look at what has happened. Like it turns into, wow, the comments. Shafton Martin, these are great.

• 1:17:14Matt Farah?

  Shafton Martin is very good. I like that.

• 1:17:17Speaker 01

  It, yeah, yeah. The shadow that is cast on the windshield is 100% a dick.

• 1:17:24Matt Farah?

  Speaking of Aston Martin.

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  Incredible.

• 1:17:27Matt Farah?

  I got, I heard back from the guy at Aston Works who said, yes, you did get a new clutch at 8,700 miles. The clutch didn't last very long.

• 1:17:36Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:17:36Matt Farah?

  Thanks dad.

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  Jesus. He's clutch kicking. He's out there, he's at side shows, you don't know. He puts the balaclava on, what do they call it? It's called these days like a shifty or something? There's like a term now for when you put on the face mask and go do illegal stuff.

• 1:17:51Matt Farah?

  Oh shit.

• 1:17:54Matt Farah?

  I saw a tour bus, by the way, parked at, or at the hotel next door here that I swear was Insane Clown Posse's tour bus. It had like their mask kind of logo, like their makeup looking like a mask, like on the, on the back of the bus.

• 1:18:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:18:09Matt Farah?

  Battery Park Watch Dealer says, is Toyota gonna print money with the Highlander EV? Seems like there could be a market for a Japanese three-row EV.

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  I don't know, print money, this is what it looks like. I was curious.

• 1:18:23Matt Farah?

  Well, they made an ID.4.

• 1:18:26Speaker 01

  A bit, yeah, a bit.

• 1:18:28Matt Farah?

  It's kind of ID.4-ish to me.

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  Fine. Looks very smooth.

• 1:18:32Matt Farah?

  It remains to be seen if people are going to... Because Toyota, Toyota's are slow-moving, you know, they're not, they're not a leader in tech. So it'll be interesting to see if people want the not, the techie thing from the company that's like not the techie company.

• 1:18:51Speaker 01

  Well, they held back and they sat, they bet on hybrids for a long time and it seems like it's worked for them in terms of money, but they, I guess they finally realized they're missing out on some market share. I think the question is, you know, right now you don't get the federal rebates for EVs. This is a $55,000 car. Do more people want an EV Highlander than the regular Highlander?

• 1:19:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:13Speaker 01

  I don't know. It depends on where they live and if they, maybe they want to graduate from their Model X or Model Y. Maybe they're trying to capture that market. I don't know.

• 1:19:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah, dude, if you've had, if you've had a Tesla for three years and you're like, I need the most reliable thing.

• 1:19:27Speaker 01

  Or you just want to get away from Tesla.

• 1:19:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:29Speaker 01

  Your options for SUVs are...

• 1:19:31Matt Farah?

  You'd be invisible in one of those, that's for sure.

• 1:19:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Johnny EV Gearroom. Did you see the manual swap? That's a manual swap DZ3. Can be done.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  Sounds cool.

• 1:19:41Matt Farah?

  Sounds cool. Matt's Cats Are My Roman Empire. Who is this? If you haven't seen Michael Corman's unreliable exotic car Arctic Road. Okay. Cashmere, if you, uh, okay. Cashmere If You Can says, Leno's Law Passed and they're saying you have to have collector car insurance to be smog exempt, but what if your car is street parked? Does this mean smog exemption is conditional to home and garage ownership? Can you get collector car insurance in a car that can't be garage parked? All good questions.

• 1:20:14Matt Farah?

  I suspect, well, Leno's Law is good, but has a lot of holes in it, is, is by no means comprehensive. It's a, it's a small, it's a small, tiny gesture that mostly does benefit people that key, that have big, you know, big collections. Not necessarily big collections, but they have, that have actual collector cars that not, that are just driving

• 1:20:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:40Matt Farah?

  street parked, you know, older cars. It doesn't help the landscaper that's driving a 1985, you know, GMC truck.

• 1:20:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:20:47Matt Farah?

  It helps the guy driving a fucking Lambo, really. It would be really nice if you were able to get a policy that would allow your car to comply with this law if you don't have a garage. As far as I know right now, you do need to have a garage to have collector policy. In fact, it has to be a private garage. It can't be like a communal apartment building garage.

• 1:21:10Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:21:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:11Speaker 01

  Interesting. That sucks.

• 1:21:12Matt Farah?

  Like, yeah. Like I know a lot of people who, clients of ours who had, would live in, live in Play Vista and they can't get it in the communal garage, but they get it here.

• 1:21:21Speaker 01

  Or if you like, if you live in New York City, even if you have a lot of money, like you're in a communal

• 1:21:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:26Speaker 01

  You know, no, very few people own a house there.

• 1:21:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and very few, there's very few private parts of communal garages there. It's real, that's really tough. So, yeah, I mean, collector's insurance being a requirement, if it stays the way it is, that would be prohibitive to anybody who doesn't have an actual garage for their, for their car.

• 1:21:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, it seems like the law helps a lot of people, but not everyone.

• 1:21:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's a lot of holes in it, but it's better than nothing.

• 1:21:56Matt Farah?

  Oh, Matt's Cats, same, same person. I think I'm realizing I like manuals, but I don't actually like sports cars.

• 1:22:05Matt Farah?

  I've tried a few manuals to get over the loss of my manual Subaru Outback, but they're all too small, too harsh, or too numb. Would it be insane to buy another if I just love that particular car? No, buy one.

• 1:22:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:18Matt Farah?

  Buy the nicest one you can find and keep it forever.

• 1:22:21Speaker 01

  You know how much time you save by just going, this is what I like. I'm just gonna get it again.

• 1:22:24Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:22:25Speaker 01

  Great. You'll learn a new language in the time we spend looking at other cars.

• 1:22:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah. My parents' entire eating habits for 40 years are that.

• 1:22:35Matt Farah?

  Cut my, what's the second half of that?

• 1:22:37Speaker 01

  This one's funny.

• 1:22:37Matt Farah?

  Cut my life into pistas. Pistas. Considering your line of work, how many people do you know that have won the lottery? State lottery or genetic lottery?

• 1:22:51Speaker 01

  That's a great, you know more of the latter.

• 1:22:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah. State lottery, I know two.

• 1:22:56Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:22:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Manny and Edwin. And they both won a lot of fucking money.

• 1:23:01Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:23:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:04Matt Farah?

  Both fairly regular folks, actually, other than having more money than God. Zach's Sandwich-Based Humor. Zach's Sandwich-Based Humor. What cars, supercars, hypercars expected to launch in the next year are you most interested in checking out?

• 1:23:23Matt Farah?

  What's coming out in the next year? Hennessy's doing a lower-power manual gearbox.

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 1:23:31Matt Farah?

  On the Venom, like, platform.

• 1:23:33Speaker 01

  So F5, but manual with less power?

• 1:23:36Matt Farah?

  It's like 800 horsepower naturally aspirated manual. That seems pretty cool.

• 1:23:40Speaker 01

  The exterior of that car is very good-looking.

• 1:23:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it looks a little different.

• 1:23:42Speaker 01

  Whatever, but...

• 1:23:43Matt Farah?

  It looks a little different. And it has a, it has a full steering wheel. Not a, not a joke.

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  Does it have a normal gauges or is it all the weird old screen that's like out of a bass fishing radar detector?

• 1:23:54Matt Farah?

  I didn't look at it that carefully.

• 1:23:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:23:58Speaker 01

  Well, we got the, oh yeah, Toyota's GT thing.

• 1:24:01Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:24:01Speaker 01

  That. I really want to see one of those in person, because in photos, it looks like the biggest car on the planet.

• 1:24:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It looks, it looks like you took, you know how, how the, the C8 Corvette sort of looks like if you took a C7 and made it mid-engine?

• 1:24:16Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:24:17Matt Farah?

  This thing looks like if you took a Ford GT and made it front engine.

• 1:24:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:23Matt Farah?

  Right?

• 1:24:23Speaker 01

  Oh, wow, it does. I never thought, like, the little cuts.

• 1:24:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:26Speaker 01

  Buttresses. Very similar.

• 1:24:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, very similar design language. Good call.

• 1:24:30Matt Farah?

  I'd like to try the Ferrari 12C manual.

• 1:24:36Matt Farah?

  I would like to try...

• 1:24:38Speaker 01

  Oh, well, I haven't driven a Rivian R2. Is R3 gonna come out? Probably not.

• 1:24:42Matt Farah?

  I don't know if...

• 1:24:43Speaker 01

  I want to drive the Scout, because I had one as a kid.

• 1:24:44Matt Farah?

  Hmm.

• 1:24:45Speaker 01

  I think the, the pre-pro car is rocking around. That's a great-looking truck.

• 1:24:51Speaker 01

  I don't know how it's gonna operate.

• 1:24:52Matt Farah?

  I guess I'd like to try the GTD, like Nürburgring, but it's probably gonna be the same. Oh, the Audi Nuvolari I would like to try. That seems interesting. I mean, Timurario-ish, but weird-looking.

• 1:25:05Speaker 01

  Yes, I agree. I want to see one in person.

• 1:25:08Matt Farah?

  The I, the I'M3?

• 1:25:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:10Matt Farah?

  The BMW M-Imtrey?

• 1:25:12Speaker 01

  Worth trying for sure. That looks pretty good. This is getting better. This design is growing on me much more quickly than the current BMW designs.

• 1:25:21Matt Farah?

  Uh-huh. And... Let's see, what else is, is there, is that right? The Camaro's coming back?

• 1:25:30Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:25:31Matt Farah?

  I'm driving the Dark Horse SC in a couple of weeks, so that will be exciting. Oh, is, if that Dodge Copperhead is coming out, I'd like to see what they do with that. It's the, it's not the Viper replacement, but it's a Halo car from Dodge.

• 1:25:48Speaker 01

  Well, they have that, they've had the Copperhead IP since, what, 93? Remember the, the concept?

• 1:25:54Matt Farah?

  Isn't Revuelto SV coming out? I, I do want to try Luce, even though it, I think it's silly, I want to try it.

• 1:26:03Speaker 01

  It's good-looking.

• 1:26:03Matt Farah?

  If Genesis does a mid-engine car, let's try, if Toyota does an MR2.

• 1:26:07Speaker 01

  The Genesis prototype that did like a hill climb

• 1:26:10Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:26:10Speaker 01

  looks and sounds perfect.

• 1:26:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it looks dope, right?

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  Whoa, and it sounds angry. Really, really cool.

• 1:26:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:15Speaker 01

  Good on them.

• 1:26:16Matt Farah?

  Genesis Magma, I'd like to try. That's it, Magma GT.

• 1:26:19Speaker 01

  Magma GT, that's the one.

• 1:26:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 1:26:22Matt Farah?

  So there's, there's a bunch of interesting stuff coming out. Oh, the Jag!

• 1:26:25Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:26:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's not the actual thing.

• 1:26:28Speaker 01

  It's a rendering. I think, it's a rendering.

• 1:26:32Matt Farah?

  Kind of interesting, though.

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  It's definitely a term. We used edges. No more smooth things, just edges.

• 1:26:41Matt Farah?

  It's all edge.

• 1:26:42Speaker 01

  Jaguar has spent too long being smooth.

• 1:26:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:48Matt Farah?

  Things.

• 1:26:48Speaker 01

  Those things. And last question.

• 1:26:52Matt Farah?

  Whew, wow, I just got, Y'all just came in. Wow. LL Cartier, I love the idea of having an older BMW as a sometimes daily. Although all the M cars seem to be maintenance disasters, do the non-M cars dodge some of these problems? The E20, E80, E39, E46? Yeah, some.

• 1:27:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, they dodge the engine problems. They don't dodge the BMW problems, like interior stuff. But the 46s, the 39, those are more reliable, and those have more reliable interior construction than like the E36 in that generation does. And if you skip the, like, the double vano system, engines are pretty stout.

• 1:27:30Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:27:31Speaker 01

  The engines are well-made. And some of those things will go for hundreds of thousands of miles. Yeah.

• 1:27:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I like an E46 330 as a daily.

• 1:27:40Speaker 01

  330, 328, I mean, any of those things, like, you bought that high-mileage wagon.

• 1:27:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was great.

• 1:27:45Speaker 01

  Granted, we only drove it for a week, but

• 1:27:46Matt Farah?

  But it was still awesome.

• 1:27:47Speaker 01

  It was really solid. It was, it felt solid, even though it had a ton of miles on it. Like, they're well-built cars.

• 1:27:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, it was great.

• 1:27:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:55Matt Farah?

  Oh, man, thanks, patrons. Y'alls are good. Some good-ass folks out here. Guess what? Tomorrow afternoon, Jethro Bovington will be in the studio at about 1 o'clock Pacific, maybe 1:30 Pacific, something like that. Something in that hood.

• 1:28:13Matt Farah?

  You know what I'm doing tonight? I'm going to this, um, a thing with Hannah. It's a symphony strings

• 1:28:22Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 1:28:22Matt Farah?

  playing an hour of 90s hip-hop beats.

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  Oh, that'll be awesome. That will be very cool.

• 1:28:31Matt Farah?

  Downtown.

• 1:28:31Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 1:28:32Matt Farah?

  Downtown, motherfucker. Uh, yeah, so we got, you know, get those tickets if you, uh, we'll, we'll post the link for the Miami gig. You know, Willow Springs Imagine, if you want to come see us out of the track, October 17th. And, um, yeah, the giveaway car is coming back, the Carrera T manual. It's gonna be the shit! Uh, thanks, everybody. Love you. Patrons, love you more. See you later. Bye.