Ep 249: Ronny Chieng

Ronny Chieng joins the boys this week for bananas, plastic guilt trips, and stories from The Daily Show to Marvel. They get into comedy fashion debates, bombing at award shows, making horror fun with M3GAN, and how AI is making us dumber. Plus, wild Bill Burr stories, bad gig horror tales, and why frugality might just save the planet. Sponsored by: 🩲 Support the show and get 20% off your 1st Sheath order with code DRUNK https://www.sheathunderwear.com 🎧 Subscribe to We Might Be Drunk: https://bit.ly/SubscribeToWMBD 🛒 Merch: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/ 🎬 Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/WMBDClips Sam Morril: https://punchup.live/sammorril/tickets Mark Normand: https://punchup.live/marknormand/tickets ⸻ 🎙️ Check out That Sounds Right — the comedy panel show hosted by the producer of WMBD: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsoundsrightshow Produced by Gotham Production Studios: https://www.gothamproductionstudios.com @GothamProductionStudios | Producer: https://www.instagram.com/mrmatthewpeters #WeMightBeDrunk #RonnyChieng #MarkNormand #SamMorril #ComedyPodcast #StandUpComedy #TheDailyShow #M3GAN #BodegaCatWhiskey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:06Mark Normand?

  We got your 78 bananas over there.

• 0:08Speaker 01

  Oh, thanks.

• 0:09Mark Normand?

  I'll have one if you have one.

• 0:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:11Mark Normand?

  Alright. Alright, boy.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  If we eat bananas on camera, it'll become a weird sex thing.

• 0:16Mark Normand?

  The views will go up.

• 0:18Sam Morril?

  Let's start the insanity.

• 0:19Mark Normand?

  Yeah, boy.

• 0:20Sam Morril?

  Let's just open with this.

• 0:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 0:22Sam Morril?

  So why banana? Is a banana a big part of your ritual?

• 0:26Speaker 01

  It's healthy, it's organic, there's no plastic.

• 0:29Sam Morril?

  Is it organic?

• 0:31Speaker 01

  Dude, it's more organic than freaking-

• 0:33Sam Morril?

  You got this Dwayne Reed fucking bananas?

• 0:36Mark Normand?

  I should throw this on the court of an NBA game.

• 0:39Mark Normand?

  WNBA.

• 0:40Speaker 01

  It's more organic than, you know, most of anything you guys eat. What do you mean, is it organic? You're literally holding a banana in your hand and you're like, is this organic?

• 0:49Sam Morril?

  It's Dwayne Reed.

• 0:50Mark Normand?

  Dwayne Reed, yeah, this is whack.

• 0:52Sam Morril?

  I hear they make great produce too. Make sure to get a kale salad from Walgreens after this.

• 0:56Mark Normand?

  Sponsor us.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  It doesn't stick in your teeth.

• 0:58Sam Morril?

  No, it's nice.

• 0:59Speaker 01

  It's sweet.

• 1:00Mark Normand?

  I eat one every morning.

• 1:01Speaker 01

  No, it's the best.

• 1:01Sam Morril?

  Every morning?

• 1:02Mark Normand?

  Yep.

• 1:03Speaker 01

  This is, my green room is just bananas.

• 1:05Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 1:05Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:06Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 1:06Mark Normand?

  How much lube?

• 1:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm telling you.

• 1:11Mark Normand?

  Alright, well, yeah.

• 1:12Speaker 01

  Does Hassan have an annoying rider? His rider is huge.

• 1:15Mark Normand?

  He has plantain.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  What's he doing? His rider, because it's the first time we're touring together, so I saw his rider. It's like, it's like 50 items. It's not even food, it's like, I need a pillow, I need this, I need-

• 1:32Sam Morril?

  What kind of pillow?

• 1:33Speaker 01

  Dude, I, I didn't read, it was like 50 items, I didn't even look in, it's like, I need a kettle, I need a-

• 1:39Mark Normand?

  What?

• 1:40Speaker 01

  And I was like, you know what my green room rider is? Bananas and no plastic.

• 1:44Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's good.

• 1:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46Mark Normand?

  That's good.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  What do you mean no plastic? I don't have plastic bottles and plastic, there's no plastic bottles.

• 1:51Mark Normand?

  Microplastics.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  You guys don't care, this is, Americans don't care about plastic.

• 1:55Mark Normand?

  No, we're-

• 1:56Speaker 01

  They just throw that shit into the river, you don't think about it.

• 1:58Mark Normand?

  We're made of plastic. I mean, we are at this point, everybody's got fucking plastic surgery.

• 2:02Sam Morril?

  Probably building up an immunity or something, right?

• 2:05Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  But you truly, you drink plastic bottles with no remorse.

• 2:09Mark Normand?

  All day long.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  Both of you will like, there'll be a clean river, right here. Bottles here, you'll just bottle, you don't care, you'll take the bottle, you're throwing it in the river.

• 2:18Mark Normand?

  No.

• 2:19Speaker 01

  No remorse.

• 2:20Mark Normand?

  I don't throw it in the river. But I'll put it in my body.

• 2:22Speaker 01

  I'm just saying that the plastic, the lack of remorse about plastic in America is crazy.

• 2:27Mark Normand?

  You're definitely right, you're on to something, but it's ingrained in it, it's everywhere. Someone hands you a bottle of water, you drink it.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, just don't. How about don't drink it?

• 2:33Sam Morril?

  You don't drink, so when you get a bottle of water?

• 2:35Speaker 01

  I give it back.

• 2:36Sam Morril?

  How about a glass bottle, will you do that?

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Glass bottle, I'll do it. On airplanes, I give the bottle back, I'm not, I don't, I don't want.

• 2:42Mark Normand?

  What if you're thirsty?

• 2:43Speaker 01

  I, I bring my own bottle.

• 2:45Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 2:46Sam Morril?

  You bring like a canteen?

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:51Mark Normand?

  Boy, the banana in the fanny pack, that's enough.

• 2:52Sam Morril?

  Oh my god, look at that, that is.

• 2:54Mark Normand?

  Wow, that's like a Boy Scout.

• 2:56Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 2:58Mark Normand?

  Holy shit.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  I guess I'm a Boy Scout now, I'm the only one who cares about plastics. I'm a goddamn Boy Scout, cuz I, I'm trying not to pollute. Your kid, you have a baby, and you still don't care about microplastics. He has, excuse, he has, he hasn't reproduced, he doesn't care.

• 3:10Sam Morril?

  I'm gonna die alone, bud.

• 3:12Speaker 01

  He's gonna die alone, he doesn't care about next generation. You have a baby.

• 3:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  And you don't care about plastic.

• 3:17Mark Normand?

  I guess I, I guess not. I burn it in the fireplace. I just throw it right in there, all the old bottles, but.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  I give it back. I go on planes, you guys go on planes and they give you the stuff? Do you give it back, or you just use it one time?

• 3:28Sam Morril?

  I use it.

• 3:29Mark Normand?

  I take everything they give me.

• 3:30Sam Morril?

  You take the, what, what do you take?

• 3:32Mark Normand?

  Wait, like the eye mask, I got thirty-eight of those, oh yeah, I got the toothbrush, the toothpaste.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Take it home.

• 3:37Mark Normand?

  Take it on the earbo, uh, plugs, I eat, I got them all.

• 3:39Sam Morril?

  Classy move if you have someone sleeping with you.

• 3:42Mark Normand?

  Hey.

• 3:43Sam Morril?

  Give them a little Delta pack.

• 3:44Mark Normand?

  That's great. Like Jeter.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Oh man, you giving them a gift pack?

• 3:50Mark Normand?

  That's not bad.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you, you, okay, you're, I, I give you credit because you are actually very frugal.

• 3:56Mark Normand?

  Uh huh.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  You're not cheap, you're very frugal.

• 3:58Sam Morril?

  That's a nice way to put it.

• 3:59Mark Normand?

  Thank you.

• 4:00Speaker 01

  You have an appreciation for.

• 4:02Mark Normand?

  That's our African American.

• 4:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, you have an appreciation for how tough life is.

• 4:08Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  And so, when someone gives you a toothbrush, you're like, I'll keep this cuz I could use it in six months.

• 4:13Mark Normand?

  You never know.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  You never know. So I, this.

• 4:15Sam Morril?

  You know, you're gonna be okay. It's like when Leno's like, I don't touch the Tonight Show money. Jay, you're 75 years old.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Touch it.

• 4:21Sam Morril?

  Touch it.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Touch it.

• 4:22Sam Morril?

  Touch it.

• 4:23Speaker 01

  Just touch it.

• 4:23Mark Normand?

  Doing fine.

• 4:23Sam Morril?

  Geez, he was a Boy Scout. Alright.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  Yeah. I was. Yeah. A Boy Scout. Also, you, your parents were lawyers.

• 4:29Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  So you kinda, you, you had, you weren't like destitute growing up.

• 4:34Mark Normand?

  No, no.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Yet you ingrained in you is this spirit of frugality of like a tru-.

• 4:39Mark Normand?

  Yes. They had no food in the house and they were frugal. So we didn't get stuff. We didn't buy things because they were paranoid about.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  You're not wasteful. That's the one.

• 4:46Mark Normand?

  No, no ways.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  You're not a wasteful American.

• 4:48Mark Normand?

  No ways.

• 4:48Sam Morril?

  It's not wasteful, but then also you could have food in the house.

• 4:51Mark Normand?

  I agree.

• 4:52Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:52Mark Normand?

  I agree.

• 4:53Sam Morril?

  Food in the house.

• 4:53Mark Normand?

  Please.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  But you are not a wasteful American, which I think is.

• 4:56Mark Normand?

  No.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  People don't know about you.

• 4:58Mark Normand?

  Thank you. I appreciate that.

• 5:00Sam Morril?

  I don't think I'm wasteful either, but I think.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  Sam, extremely wasteful.

• 5:03Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Typical American. He will eat, you won't finish your food, you'll throw it away. You'll throw it away. Yeah.

• 5:09Mark Normand?

  Oh, he got a full bite up.

• 5:10Sam Morril?

  Damn it.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 5:13Mark Normand?

  Yeah. There we go.

• 5:15Speaker 01

  Mark will not waste, if he will take it home.

• 5:17Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  Take it home.

• 5:18Mark Normand?

  I'll take your food home.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  So.

• 5:20Mark Normand?

  I will.

• 5:21Sam Morril?

  I saw Mark grab a hot dog from a homeless guy the other day. He finished it right in front of him.

• 5:25Speaker 01

  That way, his, the way he respects resources, he's a very much an immigrant mentality.

• 5:31Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  He's got a poverty immigrant mentality.

• 5:34Mark Normand?

  Yeah. It was beaten into me.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 5:37Mark Normand?

  My dad grew up on a farm. My mom's a weirdo.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:40Mark Normand?

  They're like hippie crunchy people. So, yeah.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  So yes, not wasteful American.

• 5:44Mark Normand?

  My parents, they hated going to the movies because it was too expensive. So if we did, she would load up with, uh, fruit snacks from home. Did your mom do that?

• 5:52Sam Morril?

  Yeah, everyone, that was, New York, the prices were insane. So you always bring stuff in.

• 5:56Mark Normand?

  Okay, okay.

• 5:57Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 5:57Mark Normand?

  That was embarrassing. And she gave me a jar of chocolate milk for lunch and I had to bring the jar back. So I had to walk around all day with a jar. Just an empty jar. Glass.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  And this ironically, that's, that's, you're gonna save the world. No, for real. You did that out of weird frugality, but.

• 6:16Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 6:17Speaker 01

  This is the attitude we need now. It's more taking and reusing.

• 6:20Mark Normand?

  Hey, yeah, she was ahead of her time. No lunchbox either. Uh, grocery bag. That was my lunchbox.

• 6:25Sam Morril?

  What candies were you sneaking into the theater? What are we talking?

• 6:27Mark Normand?

  We had the shitty fruit snacks, the off-brand version, and a Kudos bar if you were lucky. You guys remember Kudos? Pull that up. It was like, uh.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  Make chocolate.

• 6:37Mark Normand?

  It was, probably was.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  It sounds like chemicals.

• 6:38Mark Normand?

  It was all chemical, I'm sure it was. There, there they are.

• 6:40Sam Morril?

  You're a healthy man.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  I, I am now, but it took me a while to learn. It took me until I was about thirty.

• 6:46Sam Morril?

  Oh, I remember these. I like those.

• 6:49Mark Normand?

  They were pretty good.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, this looks like chemicals.

• 6:51Mark Normand?

  It's horrible. It was like a Kind bar for the eighties.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  Plastic, it was all plastic.

• 6:56Mark Normand?

  It was all plastic.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  It's all plastic back then.

• 6:58Mark Normand?

  By the way, I can already see the comments. This show's falling off. They used to drink whiskey, now they're eating bananas. It's all over.

• 7:04Sam Morril?

  I'm really hungover in my defense.

• 7:06Mark Normand?

  Oh, alright, alright.

• 7:06Sam Morril?

  Really fu- I got really fucked up.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  I didn't know we were supposed to drink on this.

• 7:09Sam Morril?

  You don't have to.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Someone warned me that.

• 7:11Mark Normand?

  You don't have to.

• 7:12Sam Morril?

  We're, we're, we're missing out on some big guests, because they're like, I'm in recovery. I'm like, we're not gonna force you to drink. Hey, hang this area. If you show up, we're not gonna like, force one down your throat.

• 7:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah, right.

• 7:22Sam Morril?

  We'll hang.

• 7:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's a comedy show.

• 7:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you guys are, um, well respected internationally now as.

• 7:28Mark Normand?

  Ooh.

• 7:30Speaker 01

  Australians love you.

• 7:31Sam Morril?

  Thanks.

• 7:31Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  Australians think you guys are Hall of Fame, first ballot.

• 7:35Mark Normand?

  Just got back, I had a blast.

• 7:37Sam Morril?

  I love Australians.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  Why, why?

• 7:38Mark Normand?

  We're going, uh, we're going, oh, you hate Australians.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  I don't hate Australians.

• 7:41Mark Normand?

  You got a beef.

• 7:42Sam Morril?

  You kinda started there, right?

• 7:43Speaker 01

  I start, I 100% started.

• 7:45Sam Morril?

  Okay.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  So, I got a chip on my shoulder with, uh, industry there, but the comics there, I loved.

• 7:51Mark Normand?

  Cause they wouldn't give you any opportunities, what happened?

• 7:54Speaker 01

  No, it was, it's so hard to explain, it sounds so.

• 7:56Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  It's not that they didn't give opportunities, they would make it look like they gave you a shot, but then really they were pulling the strings in a way that made you look bad.

• 8:05Mark Normand?

  Interesting.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  So in the end, you take the hit.

• 8:06Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  But, the people who made you look like shit, just keep getting, failing upwards, basically. So that's what I really hated about it. It was very, yeah, it was very insidious, but.

• 8:17Sam Morril?

  Not, not a good like, brotherhood of comics there.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  No, comics were great. I'm talking about the TV industry. TV and movie industry in Australia. The comics in Australia are solid, uh.

• 8:27Sam Morril?

  Cool.

• 8:27Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Great guys.

• 8:28Mark Normand?

  Good eggs.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  You know them.

• 8:29Mark Normand?

  Sure, yeah.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  Money. Um, but yeah, you guys are well respected globally. Do you guys know that?

• 8:33Sam Morril?

  No.

• 8:34Mark Normand?

  No.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  No?

• 8:36Mark Normand?

  We'll do the big, we'll do London, we'll do Australia, but...

• 8:39Speaker 01

  You guys are the kings of New York.

• 8:42Mark Normand?

  Wow, hey, I'll take it. Even him, he's dressed like a out of work P.I.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, he always looks like an out of work P.I.

• 8:48Sam Morril?

  Where's my houseboat?

• 8:50Speaker 01

  But this is the mythology of you guys. This is the mythology. You dressing like this, and you, you know?

• 8:58Mark Normand?

  Being frugal?

• 8:59Speaker 01

  Being like this?

• 9:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:01Sam Morril?

  I'm playing along that this shirt sucks, but I put it on the mirror, I was like, perfect. I nailed it.

• 9:06Mark Normand?

  I do the same thing.

• 9:06Sam Morril?

  Yeah, like, ah, it's great, it's great.

• 9:08Speaker 01

  You dress frugally, and then you dress...

• 9:10Mark Normand?

  This is all free.

• 9:11Sam Morril?

  Cheap shirt, this is not an expensive shirt.

• 9:13Mark Normand?

  Alright, he got it at Tom Thumb, that they're in Pensacola, it's like their 7-Eleven in Florida.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  But you guys must be rich now, right? Because of this?

• 9:23Sam Morril?

  No, we're...

• 9:23Mark Normand?

  We're getting there.

• 9:24Sam Morril?

  We're deep in the hole right now.

• 9:27Mark Normand?

  We're taking a chance.

• 9:28Sam Morril?

  It's not going well.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  But it's cool, though, it's culturally a cool play.

• 9:31Sam Morril?

  You were one of the first people to try it, I think. I think I...

• 9:33Mark Normand?

  Hey!

• 9:34Sam Morril?

  Because I know you have like, you're like a cocktail guy. Ronnie, I feel like is a man of taste.

• 9:37Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 9:38Sam Morril?

  No, you, I think you're one of the best...

• 9:39Speaker 01

  I'm here, look, how good.

• 9:42Speaker 01

  I'm on this thing. No, I'm not a cocktail guy, I actually was more of a Scotch guy, I stopped drinking, but...

• 9:47Mark Normand?

  Will we?

• 9:47Sam Morril?

  You're drinking?

• 9:48Speaker 01

  I didn't quit, but I just have no urge to drink.

• 9:50Mark Normand?

  Wow, I'm jealous.

• 9:51Sam Morril?

  You know what the name of this podcast is?

• 9:53Speaker 01

  I know, that's why I came on, like, I don't know what's gonna... But it's cool, you guys have this thing now that's...

• 9:57Sam Morril?

  No, it's good.

• 9:58Mark Normand?

  But you have a finer palate, you got the great suits, you know, all the good restaurants.

• 10:03Sam Morril?

  Pull up some pictures, I think he's maybe the best dressed comic.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  No, I don't know.

• 10:06Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:07Sam Morril?

  It's always perfectly tailored.

• 10:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah, not now, but...

• 10:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I...

• 10:11Mark Normand?

  The suit, the hair.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  For me, it was like, it was easier to dress like this. Look at these awful photos.

• 10:17Sam Morril?

  No, these look good, dude, holy shit.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  It was easier to do this than it was to be fashionable.

• 10:24Mark Normand?

  Oh, interesting.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  You know what I mean?

• 10:26Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  To be fashionable, I end up looking like Sam.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  But if you wear a suit, you just kinda, it's like a cheat code to, you know?

• 10:32Mark Normand?

  That's a good point.

• 10:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:33Sam Morril?

  These are, it's good taste in suits, you got...

• 10:35Mark Normand?

  And they fit, beautiful.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  But also, we're in show business, we're in show business, right? We should put in some effort on stage.

• 10:42Mark Normand?

  I fight with that. I completely agree, you see the Mulaney in the suit, you see the Seinfeld suit.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  I know you fight with it, clearly.

• 10:49Mark Normand?

  Yeah, but, but then you go, but I'm not that guy, but do I have to pretend to be that guy, but I don't want to look like a schlub, but I am a schlub.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 10:56Mark Normand?

  So, you know, what are we doing here?

• 10:57Speaker 01

  I know what you mean, it depends on the act.

• 10:59Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  It also, like, we are supposed to be counter-cultural. Comedy, so why are you dressing like the man?

• 11:07Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 11:08Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  But I, I think there is something.

• 11:10Sam Morril?

  Why dress like a woman on stage?

• 11:14Sam Morril?

  Tube top, the tube top special.

• 11:17Mark Normand?

  The Daisy Duke special, that was my favorite.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  But I think there's something to, right, as Mr. Seinfeld always said, dress better than your audience, so that.

• 11:26Mark Normand?

  Yep, and he always says, there's something funny about a guy, a funny guy in a suit.

• 11:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 11:31Mark Normand?

  A funny guy in a suit, it doesn't.

• 11:32Speaker 01

  The juxtaposition.

• 11:33Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's the word, thank you.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  Yes, that you are, you're being irreverent and funny, but you're dressed formally, there's something to that. I don't know, I think that's a way to do it, maybe you, you in a tie and suit, I agree, maybe not, but you in a.

• 11:47Sam Morril?

  I've done it.

• 11:48Mark Normand?

  I've done it.

• 11:48Sam Morril?

  I thought it looked good.

• 11:49Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's fun for the moment, but I just couldn't.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  Sustain it.

• 11:53Mark Normand?

  Yes, I couldn't sustain it.

• 11:54Sam Morril?

  You look, I think you're sharp as fuck, dude.

• 11:56Mark Normand?

  Thanks, thanks. By the way, that suit, that one on the top left, that is pinned together with about 700 pins, because it was nine sizes too big, and so the lady went to town on me.

• 12:06Speaker 01

  But why didn't you go on The Tonight Show with a suit that fits?

• 12:10Mark Normand?

  I don't think.

• 12:11Sam Morril?

  I've done the same thing.

• 12:12Mark Normand?

  I could afford it, I didn't have it, I don't know.

• 12:14Sam Morril?

  I went on a Colbert set, and it was like, I didn't know you could tailor suits, I don't think.

• 12:19Sam Morril?

  You gotta pull up Thamron Colbert, it's, it's a bad look, and the haircut, the haircut was like $10, too.

• 12:24Mark Normand?

  Yeah, same, same, I always get the haircut there, because it's free.

• 12:27Sam Morril?

  I mean, look at that suit, that's, I may as well be wearing a tarp.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  That's okay.

• 12:30Mark Normand?

  It wasn't that bad, but I get it.

• 12:32Sam Morril?

  That one looks better underneath, but.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  That's okay.

• 12:34Mark Normand?

  That's a sweet.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  There was a time in the 2010s, like, late 2009s, when comics would go on to these late shows and wear shirts which were too big. No, no jacket.

• 12:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  Just a shirt that was way too big, you know, so that, to me, that was bad, this is okay.

• 12:51Sam Morril?

  It's, it.

• 12:52Speaker 01

  This is okay, what do you mean?

• 12:52Mark Normand?

  That's not terrible.

• 12:53Sam Morril?

  No, it, it, it's a good angle, it, it did not fit well.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  Okay, I don't remember.

• 12:57Sam Morril?

  I look like I'm a fucking senator from Kentucky, with that, what the hell am I doing there?

• 13:01Speaker 01

  But you know what, you two, you, you guys could do the suit, no tie. On stage.

• 13:06Mark Normand?

  Yes, that's a good look.

• 13:08Sam Morril?

  That's what I did for my last special.

• 13:09Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that would look good.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  You could do like, not suit, but like, sports coat. So blazer and off-color, so not matching.

• 13:19Mark Normand?

  Right, oh, interesting.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, you could do that.

• 13:22Mark Normand?

  Alright.

• 13:22Speaker 01

  I mean, you could do jeans and blazer, but it looks like you're...

• 13:26Mark Normand?

  A little boomer-y.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a little boomer-y. So you should do, oh yeah, this is great, see?

• 13:31Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's a good suit somebody bought me, so.

• 13:33Speaker 01

  I know you're saying comedy in this.

• 13:35Mark Normand?

  Well, I'm yelling at Jim Gaffigan right here, because this is one of these benefits.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:40Mark Normand?

  And I texted Jim, it was Seinfeld, Jon Stewart, Bruce Springsteen.

• 13:43Speaker 01

  I did this, I did this, yeah.

• 13:44Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I think Wounded Warriors, or one of those military things, heroes, something heroes. Stand up for heroes.

• 13:50Speaker 01

  Way to, way to give them a shout-out, Mark.

• 13:52Mark Normand?

  Thank you, they're doing the Lord's work.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:54Mark Normand?

  And I texted Gaffigan, we go in suit, we go, no suit, what's the move here? And he goes, "Wear a suit, Jesus Christ, wear a suit, don't wear a tie if you don't want to." And I said, "Alright," so I did that, and he showed up in sweats.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 14:04Mark Normand?

  I know, he looked like a Korean dictator, yeah, he was just, there he is, that's him.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  That's not sweats.

• 14:11Mark Normand?

  Well, he had like, kinda crazy slack, there he is.

• 14:13Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 14:14Mark Normand?

  That's the photo, pull that one up. See, he's got a sweater on, he's got the zip up.

• 14:20Sam Morril?

  Yeah, you look good, though, who cares?

• 14:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, he looks like he put some effort in, you know?

• 14:24Mark Normand?

  Jon Stewart's in fucking Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

• 14:26Sam Morril?

  Yeah, holy shit.

• 14:27Speaker 01

  He always wears that jacket.

• 14:28Mark Normand?

  He wears whatever he wants.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's a good man of the people. I think that's something to wear, you guys could pull it off, you know? Yeah, right, it looks, would you wear it on tour?

• 14:37Mark Normand?

  No.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  No?

• 14:38Mark Normand?

  I can't, I just, I feel like a fraud walking out there going, "Hey, everybody," and they're gonna go, the record's gonna scratch, and everybody's gonna boo.

• 14:44Sam Morril?

  I'm such a piece of shit in the road, I love shit that just won't wrinkle, like, do I bring these pants, they just don't wrinkle?

• 14:49Speaker 01

  Pants, yeah.

• 14:50Sam Morril?

  Or like, you get one of those jackets that just won't wrinkle?

• 14:53Mark Normand?

  The best, love that.

• 14:54Speaker 01

  These guys are killing it.

• 14:55Sam Morril?

  No, no, no, I'll bring some nice stuff sometimes.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, how about one show, you do one show, what bet do we have to make?

• 15:01Mark Normand?

  Well, he did a special in it, so you're good.

• 15:03Sam Morril?

  Yeah, I thought it looked cool, though, I liked that.

• 15:05Mark Normand?

  It looked great.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  Oh, you had a great one, you had one that was, um...

• 15:09Sam Morril?

  Not that one, yeah, that was a good suit.

• 15:10Speaker 01

  That was a good one, but you had another way.

• 15:11Sam Morril?

  Shout out Tan France, he was the one who told me to get that suit, so. Tan France from Queer Eye.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 15:16Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  If you guys, if you get a stylist...

• 15:19Mark Normand?

  He also has four bananas on his rider, alright, keep going.

• 15:22Speaker 01

  If you had a stylist, you could probably get something that fits your personality.

• 15:26Mark Normand?

  Oh!

• 15:27Speaker 01

  Right now, it's because you lack the talent to dress yourself.

• 15:30Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  So you're like, "Oh, it looks like shit," because you will dress yourself like shit.

• 15:33Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 15:34Speaker 01

  But if you get a professional... To-

• 15:36Mark Normand?

  That's not bad.

• 15:37Speaker 01

  To even give you an option.

• 15:38Mark Normand?

  That's not bad.

• 15:39Speaker 01

  Just say, "Take a look at this option." So I bet for you, it'll be no shirt, it'll be something like a turtleneck and then-

• 15:43Mark Normand?

  Oh, turtleneck, what?

• 15:45Sam Morril?

  You had the smokers jacket on at the, at your wedding.

• 15:47Mark Normand?

  At my wedding, it was a wedding.

• 15:49Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 15:49Mark Normand?

  I couldn't do that on stage.

• 15:50Speaker 01

  How about polo?

• 15:52Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 15:53Speaker 01

  Polo with jacket.

• 15:54Mark Normand?

  That's better, that's better.

• 15:56Speaker 01

  Can you pull up, uh, Tenet?

• 15:57Mark Normand?

  Oh, the movie?

• 15:59Speaker 01

  In Tenet, yeah.

• 16:01Mark Normand?

  Boy, boy, this is getting deep.

• 16:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, no, uh, Tenet, Tenet as a T E-

• 16:06Mark Normand?

  The Richard Nolan movie.

• 16:07Speaker 01

  No, Christopher Nolan.

• 16:08Mark Normand?

  Sorry.

• 16:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, Tenet, yeah. So, not that, uh, yeah, that, something like that.

• 16:13Mark Normand?

  Wow, that's sharp.

• 16:15Speaker 01

  That's, that's a polo under a jacket. And this is something you do when it's kinda hot outside or-

• 16:21Mark Normand?

  Mm-hmm. I like that.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, polo under, you could do a polo and jacket.

• 16:25Mark Normand?

  Eh, okay, you don't think that's too slick for me? That guy's selling real estate.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  Yes, but that's cuz the color of his, you know, you could pick it, also-

• 16:33Mark Normand?

  Easy.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  You could take off the jacket and just go polo, you know, and this, no, you can't do this pants.

• 16:38Mark Normand?

  These are, yeah, jean, tacky jeans.

• 16:40Sam Morril?

  This is like Gene Brothers shit, I kinda like what he's doing.

• 16:41Mark Normand?

  I know, I'm learning a lot.

• 16:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is, oh, no, no, no.

• 16:45Sam Morril?

  By the way, Barney Greengrass shirt, I fucking love it.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know, I wore this for you.

• 16:47Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 16:48Mark Normand?

  Hey!

• 16:49Sam Morril?

  I love that place.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  And the Knicks.

• 16:51Mark Normand?

  Oh, double whammy!

• 16:52Sam Morril?

  I didn't even notice that.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  This is a limited edition, you can only get this if you-

• 16:56Mark Normand?

  Jesus Christ.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  If it's real New York.

• 16:58Mark Normand?

  Might as well wear a yarmulke at this point.

• 16:59Sam Morril?

  I was at, I went to Jalen Brunson's charity thing last night, Chris DiStefano's there, leaves right before the bidding. Real fucking slick.

• 17:07Mark Normand?

  Classy.

• 17:08Sam Morril?

  Everyone's gotta donate, then he's like, "Oh shit, I gotta pick up my daughter." Sure you do.

• 17:11Mark Normand?

  Rugel!

• 17:12Sam Morril?

  Piece of shit.

• 17:13Mark Normand?

  Rugel move!

• 17:14Sam Morril?

  I also noticed, I donated the same as a, a, a current player, which I'm like, we are not in the same tax bracket. What the fuck are you, come on, you gotta give more.

• 17:21Mark Normand?

  What's the charity for? Why don't you give it a plug?

• 17:23Sam Morril?

  It's a second round charity, uh, and it's for like kids who are overlooked.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  Second round picks?

• 17:29Sam Morril?

  Yeah, basically, that's, well, it's cuz he was a second round pick, right? So it's like, that's his whole thing, it's, yeah.

• 17:34Speaker 01

  It's give to the poor second round picks in the NBA. Who couldn't make it onto the-

• 17:38Sam Morril?

  It's bad to be overlooked, unless you're in the church as a child, but either way.

• 17:44Sam Morril?

  I'll tell you, you're all right, all right.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  No, but I'm, I'm not, I'm not big brother, you guys. You guys were so nice to me when I first came here. I'm not trying to be condescending to you. I'm not trying to tell you what to do.

• 17:54Mark Normand?

  No, I'm curious.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  I'm just pitching, I'm just pitching.

• 17:56Mark Normand?

  Please, pitch away.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  I'm just pitching ideas, that's all.

• 17:59Mark Normand?

  So this is all, all good, good help?

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:01Mark Normand?

  I'll take it.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, you guys were always very welcoming to me when, when I first came to New York.

• 18:05Sam Morril?

  You're, you're a good funny dude, man.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  I'm okay. But, but it was, yeah, I mean, it was cool of you guys to be nice.

• 18:12Mark Normand?

  Yeah, of course. We, we, we watched your act first. Don't get me wrong.

• 18:16Sam Morril?

  I was like, thumbs up.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  You got passed, you got passed, mate.

• 18:21Sam Morril?

  No, we knew you, we knew you were a good dude.

• 18:22Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you.

• 18:23Sam Morril?

  It was interesting.

• 18:24Mark Normand?

  If you were doing my mom sounds like this, I would have been like, all right, we gotta, we gotta get out of here.

• 18:30Mark Normand?

  That's always the go-to.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  My mom sounds like this.

• 18:34Mark Normand?

  My mom has this accent, my mom has that, you know, you guys' mom ever do this? A Filipino mom, don't get me started, you know? I think I'm, I'm giving away who I'm talking about.

• 18:42Sam Morril?

  You, yeah, no, we got it. We all got it. But, uh, yeah, no, you were, you were fucking great, dude, man. And you're like, it's interesting. I feel like you're one of the few dudes who can do the social commentary without pandering.

• 18:53Mark Normand?

  Mmm, yes.

• 18:54Sam Morril?

  That's a very difficult skill.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  Oh, is that true?

• 18:57Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 18:58Sam Morril?

  I think there's a lot of...

• 18:59Speaker 01

  What do you mean? You guys do social commentary without pandering?

• 19:01Sam Morril?

  Very, very little. Like, maybe, uh, three jokes per special.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  I argue everything you do is social commentary, but what, what am I missing? You mean, politics?

• 19:08Sam Morril?

  You're more political.

• 19:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I don't read as much. You, you, you know more about the news than I do.

• 19:13Sam Morril?

  But I mean, you tour the whole country. I mean, you're going every red state, blue state, and you're doing a lot more, I think. I guess in your act, it's not super political, but you're doing it on the Daily Show?

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it's not overtly political. If, if anything, it's like, if anything, it's like, I feel like I get all my politics out on the show. So when I do stand up, I'm like, ah, let's, let's do something else, you know?

• 19:31Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  But, yes, undoubtedly, yeah, I guess it leaks into each other. But, um, I don't know, I found in America, everyone who comes to comedy shows gets with it for most part.

• 19:41Mark Normand?

  I agree.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  Don't you think? Like, people who come to comedy shows are usually like, oh, you know? Even if you disagree politically, you, you're there for like, okay. As long as the comic gives something that isn't wildly off-base.

• 19:52Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  It's when the comic is wildly off-base with their political opinion, that you kind of rebel, your brain rebels against it, because you're like, ah, that's not true.

• 20:01Mark Normand?

  Yes, and you can feel the audience when a comic flips a 180. They're like, whoa, what is this? They feel a little betrayed. And then they, they turn on you.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Right, right, but you also feel when you're saying something political and you know that it it sounds like you're gonna anger certain people in the crowd, but then you feel when that that segment actually gets with you.

• 20:24Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's the best.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  So whether it, yeah, it's the best. It's like whether it's you're talking to extremely liberal people, but and your bit's premise is very, uh, is kind of, uh, wrong like for their crowd, but you get them because it's just so funny.

• 20:39Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  Or vice versa.

• 20:40Sam Morril?

  That's the best part.

• 20:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  You say something that you you're going after super right wing people, and you can tell there's people in the room who are like, "Oh, I don't know, you know, I believe in my guns."

• 20:49Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  But then you manage to flip it around. They're like, "All right, that's funny and that makes sense."

• 20:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 20:53Sam Morril?

  Funny, and we're not trying to change the world. I think once you let go of that, I mean, I I did a couple gigs with Shane over the weekend, and, you know, his crowd definitely skews more right wing.

• 21:02Speaker 01

  Does it? No, I'm joking.

• 21:04Sam Morril?

  Oh, yeah, no, seriously, yeah, it does. But then he'll do, uh, he'll do, he's like, he'll tell me like, "I don't, we're talking about like how we hate when we get claps in a setup."

• 21:12Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 21:12Sam Morril?

  It's fucking boring.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 21:13Sam Morril?

  And it's like, what's the point? We're comics. You're not, you don't want claps. So he'll he'll go like, "Oh, I'm going anti-Trump in this bit."

• 21:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:19Sam Morril?

  Because they want to approach him.

• 21:20Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 21:21Sam Morril?

  And that's more interesting.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:23Sam Morril?

  And my crowd probably skews a little more left. And, uh, I'm kind of like, here's something funny about Trump to me.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:29Sam Morril?

  Because they they know your beliefs. Like, I heard Jimmy Carr once said, "You leak your beliefs."

• 21:34Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 21:34Sam Morril?

  So just fucking be funny.

• 21:35Mark Normand?

  Ooh, leak your beliefs.

• 21:37Sam Morril?

  Yeah, that's why you don't have to tell people where you stand. Everyone's demanding, "Where do you stand on this? Where do you stand on that?" Listen to a little bit, you'll figure it out.

• 21:43Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 21:44Mark Normand?

  What did Quinn say about DePaulo?

• 21:46Sam Morril?

  What?

• 21:47Mark Normand?

  You can tell how he voted through his McDonald's order.

• 21:52Mark Normand?

  So true. "Give me, uh, fucking, uh, all these immigrants here," you know, like he would just go off on something. Yeah.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, it leaks through. And also, also, there's there's a lot of fun and creativity to be had in going against what you're leaking.

• 22:10Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 22:10Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  If you're leaking a certain way, but then you go against it, it there's, that's what's fun about it.

• 22:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah, because then the audience is like, "Whoa, I don't know where he's going. This is exciting."

• 22:18Speaker 01

  Right, versus versus just saying what they want to hear.

• 22:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 22:21Speaker 01

  Because I think maybe that's what you were feeling with Shane. I don't, I don't even want to presume that Shane's crowd is right wing. I mean, that would be...

• 22:27Sam Morril?

  Well, he's he's got such a big crowd that it's everybody, but I think it skews slightly to the right. Okay, yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Don't you think?

• 22:34Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I would say so.

• 22:35Sam Morril?

  Yeah, but I think his crowd is enormous. I think it's like,

• 22:37Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 22:37Sam Morril?

  It's everybody, for sure. Everybody thinks he's funny. Sure. Yeah, yeah, I know. He's killer. Yeah.

• 22:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah, but I think you're right about the, I think predictability gets old. And you gotta go, we got it. Alright, same shit every time. They'll stop seeing you. So if you can really tap dance and make people not know where you're going, that's the best. Like a movie. You go, I don't know where this movie. How are they gonna get out of this? That's, that's great.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  That's the skill, though.

• 22:59Mark Normand?

  But if you go, he's the bad guy in the first five minutes.

• 23:01Sam Morril?

  I love, movies are so fucking formulaic. When you see one like, you ever see the Safdie Brothers movie, Good Time?

• 23:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah, with Pattinson?

• 23:09Sam Morril?

  Yeah, you just, you just don't know where the fuck it's going.

• 23:11Mark Normand?

  Great, great.

• 23:12Sam Morril?

  Starts with a bank robbery and you're like, how the fuck's he gonna get out of this?

• 23:14Mark Normand?

  I would say The Long Goodbye is like that. It's just, that movie's so windy and weird. It goes all over the place.

• 23:19Sam Morril?

  Very windy. You know, a big part of that's because Altman, who did, he adapted that book, didn't finish the book. He's like, I, I got it. But I guess the same, it is. And the ending is not the ending of the book.

• 23:31Mark Normand?

  Oh, interesting.

• 23:32Speaker 01

  Do you think comedies can do that? Comedy movies?

• 23:36Sam Morril?

  Depends on the type of comedy.

• 23:38Mark Normand?

  Not really. I think-

• 23:39Speaker 01

  Let's, let's go back to, uh, don't interrupt you. What were you saying?

• 23:43Mark Normand?

  No, no, I, I, I don't, I think a comedy movie kinda has to be formulaic, cause it's just a vehicle for the jokes, really.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying.

• 23:50Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 23:50Sam Morril?

  Have you seen, I just saw Naked Gun?

• 23:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:53Sam Morril?

  Fuck, it's funny, dude.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:54Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's fun. That's nice to hear.

• 23:56Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 23:56Speaker 01

  So I guess-

• 23:57Sam Morril?

  But that's, but that follows the formula.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Well, that's what I'm saying. So what do you think about comedy movies? Um, you know, the, if we go back to our recent golden age, which we would say comedy movies would be what, 90s?

• 24:08Mark Normand?

  The Farrelly Brothers.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  That would be what we would think is the golden age of comedy movies.

• 24:12Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Like, all those, like, even like Jim Carrey stuff, right?

• 24:15Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  Mask, Ace Ventura, whatever. Uh, those, would you say that those were, is it possible to break the mold in those?

• 24:22Mark Normand?

  That's a great question. And maybe the first guy who does it- Well, it'll blow up.

• 24:27Sam Morril?

  Well, I mean, you can consider being John Malkovich a comedy, and that's super fucking unpredictable. It's a different genre of comedy.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  Sure, I mean.

• 24:34Mark Normand?

  Yeah, way outside the box.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:36Mark Normand?

  But have you heard of this movie Weapons?

• 24:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:38Mark Normand?

  Have you seen it?

• 24:39Speaker 01

  No.

• 24:40Mark Normand?

  Everyone's talking about this movie because everyone says it breaks the mold. I've never seen a movie like it. No horror movie goes this way. And I think comedy and horror are kind of similar. So maybe there's a way to break through with comedy.

• 24:51Speaker 01

  Because, by the way, I mean, I don't want people to misunderstand. I said, I said Jim Carrey movies didn't break the mold, but they were brilliant.

• 24:58Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  They were brilliant because he was so talented and they were in like unique premises.

• 25:03Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  Pet Detective, Magical Mask, Someone Who's Dumb.

• 25:06Mark Normand?

  Dumb and Dumber, yeah.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  And they were, when you watch it, it's brilliant. Even, even Adam Sandler, Happy Gilmore. Brilliant movie, brilliant comedy movie. Every point in that movie, you know what the, what the character wants.

• 25:20Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 25:20Speaker 01

  It's very clear. Did it break the mold? It arguably didn't, because you know highs and lows, mentor, low point.

• 25:28Mark Normand?

  Happy ending.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  Wins.

• 25:29Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 25:29Speaker 01

  Wins the sport. So I guess my question is how to do that with comedy.

• 25:32Sam Morril?

  But I think comedy breaks the mold not with the structure of the story, but like what happens within.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 25:37Sam Morril?

  You know, like, like Jim Carrey is like, oh, I'd never seen a dude do that shit when I was a kid. Unless it was like a cartoon character, but like, he was like not a, he was like elastic and not a fucking person.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was, without CGI, he could change his face like a, you know. He could do the faces without, it looked like it was CGI.

• 25:54Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? Because the way he molds his face. But, sorry, so this goes back to what you were saying before about movies having unpredictable twists. Whereas comedies, I feel like they can't do that. So they just, to be a great comedy, you just gotta be.

• 26:06Mark Normand?

  Just gotta be funny, and the storyline has to be enough.

• 26:09Sam Morril?

  At the end of our movie, we should get a sex change.

• 26:12Sam Morril?

  They're just like, wait, why? And we're like, just fucking stay with us.

• 26:15Mark Normand?

  I guess white chicks change the mold a little.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Okay, but white chicks, structurally predictable.

• 26:24Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  But, yeah, the premise was unpredictable.

• 26:28Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 26:29Sam Morril?

  It'd be really unpredictable if it was me and Norman and black chicks. We'd just go out in blackface and get the shit kicked out of us immediately.

• 26:35Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's not a bad scene.

• 26:37Sam Morril?

  That's the movie.

• 26:38Mark Normand?

  They could put that in. Me and you with the Williams sisters.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, you guys could do that.

• 26:46Mark Normand?

  But I think a naked gun or an airplane, you never saw jokes like that. You know, naked gun, the lady walks up the ladder and he goes, "Nice beaver." And she goes, "Thanks," and hands down a stuffed beaver.

• 26:55Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 26:56Mark Normand?

  Stuff like that where you're like, "Whoa, I've never seen that."

• 26:58Sam Morril?

  Is that the grossest term for vagina?

• 27:00Speaker 01

  Beaver.

• 27:00Sam Morril?

  Beaver's really not complimentary.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  It's not.

• 27:05Sam Morril?

  That was even worse.

• 27:06Mark Normand?

  Yeah, beaver's not great, but coochie, there's some rough ones, clam.

• 27:10Sam Morril?

  Beaver's not an attractive animal, not that I want to fuck any animal, but...

• 27:12Mark Normand?

  Sure, maybe hatchet wound is pretty, pretty good.

• 27:17Sam Morril?

  Box is...

• 27:18Mark Normand?

  Box, yeah.

• 27:19Sam Morril?

  Beaver's rough.

• 27:20Mark Normand?

  Honey pot.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  It has to be the worst.

• 27:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Well, I don't even get how you get to beaver, is it...

• 27:26Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I guess because it's furry, yeah.

• 27:28Sam Morril?

  Pajingo.

• 27:29Mark Normand?

  It's usually wet. Pajingo. That sounds like a slur for Italians. Oh, yeah, pajingo.

• 27:37Sam Morril?

  Maybe the pajingo ate your baby.

• 27:43Sam Morril?

  Cookie, I've never heard cookie.

• 27:45Mark Normand?

  Cookie.

• 27:45Sam Morril?

  Yoni, that's just a Jewish name, what the fuck?

• 27:47Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:48Sam Morril?

  Hey, moish, nice moishia.

• 27:51Mark Normand?

  Guy's a real pussy.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Producer's bringing up, for the podcast listeners.

• 27:55Mark Normand?

  Twat, that's a classic. Cookie, that guy's a pedophile. Anybody who calls it a cookie.

• 27:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah, that was a racial slur against black people.

• 28:02Mark Normand?

  Cookie?

• 28:03Sam Morril?

  Yeah, because, I remember that movie with De Niro and Cuba Gooding Jr. I forgot what it's called, but he keeps calling him that. They were really running out of like, you know, like triumphant black stories.

• 28:13Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:14Sam Morril?

  They made it to like the first black scuba diver and I was like, "All right."

• 28:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's over.

• 28:18Sam Morril?

  I mean, I'll give you Jackie Robinson, that's fucking great.

• 28:21Mark Normand?

  Sure, sure.

• 28:21Sam Morril?

  But like the scuba diver, I was like, yeah, I forgot, Men of Honor, that's what it was.

• 28:26Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes, yes. The black guy swimming, that's where you lost me.

• 28:31Sam Morril?

  There was a cord.

• 28:33Mark Normand?

  Did you see Sinners?

• 28:34Sam Morril?

  Yeah, I enjoyed it.

• 28:35Mark Normand?

  The black guy eating the girl out, I was like, "This is science fiction, what are we doing?"

• 28:42Sam Morril?

  Holy shit.

• 28:43Mark Normand?

  Alright, we're having to-

• 28:45Sam Morril?

  That was a fun one.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  It was, it was, it was vampires.

• 28:49Mark Normand?

  I know, that I believe, that part I believe.

• 28:54Mark Normand?

  Maybe the best version of the two guys playing, or played by one guy, I've ever seen. Tom Hardy did it.

• 29:00Sam Morril?

  How about, how about adaptation, Nick Cage?

• 29:03Mark Normand?

  Oh, that was pretty great, that was pretty great, yeah.

• 29:06Sam Morril?

  So, so different, I love that.

• 29:08Mark Normand?

  On another level.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  What about, uh, what about the two guys playing one guy in, uh, Social Network?

• 29:15Sam Morril?

  Yes, that was good, Arm and Hammer.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, Winklevoss.

• 29:18Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah, wow, I didn't even realize that, shit, that's-

• 29:21Speaker 01

  That's how good it was.

• 29:22Mark Normand?

  That's a good sign, yeah. Damn. Boy, whatever happened to that guy? I'm kidding.

• 29:29Sam Morril?

  It did, so, but he didn't do it, didn't he? Uh, what happened with that?

• 29:32Mark Normand?

  I think they, they pumped it up. He was, he was creepy, but it wasn't actually, he wasn't like eating women with a fork.

• 29:38Speaker 01

  I don't think he actually ate people.

• 29:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 29:40Sam Morril?

  Bring him back for the next Silence of the Lambs or something.

• 29:43Speaker 01

  I think he's back.

• 29:43Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's not bad.

• 29:45Sam Morril?

  That's the move.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  I think he's already back.

• 29:46Sam Morril?

  Is he?

• 29:47Mark Normand?

  He's so handsome.

• 29:48Sam Morril?

  Handsome guy.

• 29:49Mark Normand?

  I mean, he's like a woman's dream, he's got the, the Arm and Hammer, or the Arm and Hammer money, and the-

• 29:54Sam Morril?

  Is that really?

• 29:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 29:55Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's, he's the heir.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 29:57Sam Morril?

  No shit.

• 29:57Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's why he's called Armie.

• 29:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:00Mark Normand?

  Arm and Hammer.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 30:01Sam Morril?

  I, I just assumed it was a coincidence.

• 30:04Speaker 01

  That's crazy. Yeah, he comes from a rich family.

• 30:07Mark Normand?

  You know his gay brother, Navy? Okay, I'll see you all in hell.

• 30:13Mark Normand?

  I can't believe you're still on The Daily Show, what, what is this, 20 years you're doing?

• 30:17Speaker 01

  No, 10 years, 10 years.

• 30:18Mark Normand?

  Geez.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  I've only been in America for 10 years, man.

• 30:20Mark Normand?

  For a comic to keep a job for 10 years is rare.

• 30:23Speaker 01

  I know, I agree, that's what I tell people, it's like, we were never supposed to have job security.

• 30:28Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 30:30Speaker 01

  So, yeah, I've been here for 10 years now.

• 30:31Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  10 years.

• 30:33Sam Morril?

  And you, and how many, like, how often do you host it?

• 30:36Speaker 01

  Uh, I host it, thanks for watching, by the way, uh, I host it-

• 30:39Sam Morril?

  I see, I did watch the clip.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, thanks for watching the clip. I-

• 30:44Speaker 01

  I host it like uh uh every couple of weeks. I host it for like three days. Yeah, that's so cool. Best job in comedy, I think. Yeah, definitely. I tell you what's good about comedy, about Daily Show that you guys would love, is that when you're at the Daily Show, the only agenda that the writers and the performers have and the producers is to make jokes. And I say that in comparison to, have you guys worked on ads before, like commercials? A little bit. Where they bring you in to write on a commercial? Mm-hmm. And when you work at a Daily Show, because this is my first experience in America, was writing on the Daily Show, being on the Daily Show, and then I had to experience being on ads in America. And the agendas with ads, so different. Oh yeah.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  They got stuff they wanna sell, there's stuff they wanna educate. You pitch a joke and they're like, you know, and fair enough, they'll be like, oh, this, you can't say this, it's too edgy. Of course. Daily Show is like, no, just go for it. Ah, I love that. Just go for it. And okay, sometimes you go for it and it doesn't work, or you go for it and then we cut it before the final uh taping for whatever reason. Yeah. But at least people are going for it.

• 31:48Sam Morril?

  They won't pitch jokes when you're doing an Old Spice ad?

• 31:51Speaker 01

  No, it's not that, it's that you pitch stuff, but then, you know, Old Spice has the right to not use them.

• 31:56Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 31:56Speaker 01

  Because, and their agenda is-

• 31:57Sam Morril?

  They'll clean up your binger.

• 31:59Speaker 01

  That's exactly it. So you, you know, when you're, when you're there, and then, like I said, at Daily Show, you're surrounded by comics who just want to write jokes. Yeah. You know, when you're doing a commercial, you're surrounded by people who, um, they're not professional comics. Some of them are writers, but they're not like comics, so they're not, their agenda isn't to, let's find the thing that makes us laugh. Yeah. Hey, let's find something that we can use to sell the product, which is fair enough, you know? Oh, totally. Yeah, yeah.

• 32:25Sam Morril?

  Dude, you're also, by the way, such a good actor. The movie Megan-

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:30Sam Morril?

  The movie Megan is so fucking fun.

• 32:32Speaker 01

  Oh, that was great.

• 32:34Sam Morril?

  That was like a sci-fi, I just threw it on one day not knowing you were even in it.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  Oh, thanks for-

• 32:38Sam Morril?

  So it was such a cool surprise, but you play this like tech-

• 32:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:42Sam Morril?

  This tech giant asshole. You play a good asshole.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  Thank you, yeah. I like to play, I think, I like to think I can play a good asshole. This was, this was good, uh, um, you would like this movie cuz it's

• 32:55Mark Normand?

  I saw it.

• 32:55Speaker 01

  Written by, um, writer with a great sense of humor. So he made this quirky little New Zealand, um, you know, it's not set in New Zealand, but we filmed it in New Zealand.

• 33:08Mark Normand?

  Oh, wow, really?

• 33:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it has that New Zealand quirky comedy sensibility.

• 33:12Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah. It had a lot of levity, it was definitely lighter.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was self-aware. That was the key about this movie is that we all know what's gonna happen here.

• 33:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  The doll is gonna go nuts. So the fun is in the lead-up to that.

• 33:26Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 33:27Speaker 01

  You know, the fun is in how self-aware can we be without giving away the whole game, right?

• 33:31Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  Being so up our own butts with it.

• 33:33Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:34Speaker 01

  The director hit it perfectly. It's like this very self-aware, self-referential, but still earnest, uh, attempt.

• 33:42Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  At a horror.

• 33:43Sam Morril?

  And you write Megan 2.0, 2.0 is out today, I'm not in it because of this scene right here.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  I actually have died in like five movies now, so.

• 33:56Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 33:57Sam Morril?

  What else did you die of?

• 33:58Mark Normand?

  Asian hate.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  Died of, I died of cancer in one movie, I died in this movie, I died, I got shot, I was Selma, Hayek's ex-boyfriend.

• 34:07Mark Normand?

  What?

• 34:08Speaker 01

  In Bliss.

• 34:09Sam Morril?

  Whoa.

• 34:09Mark Normand?

  Pull that up.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  In that one.

• 34:11Sam Morril?

  Yeah, where's that?

• 34:12Mark Normand?

  Did you get to touch her at all?

• 34:13Speaker 01

  I got to act with her, yeah, she was great.

• 34:16Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  Very cool person.

• 34:17Mark Normand?

  She's one of these ageless women, she just doesn't age.

• 34:20Speaker 01

  Yes, yes, yeah. Bliss, this movie, I was, I was in it. It's a great movie, by the way, this movie is, it's a very meta-physical.

• 34:27Mark Normand?

  Hmm.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:28Mark Normand?

  It almost seems like if a movie isn't self-aware now, it won't work. I feel like we've gotten so far, movies that you kinda have to be winking at the camera a little bit, or else the audience is like, ah.

• 34:39Sam Morril?

  The Ted Bundy movie we need, he's like, I know.

• 34:43Speaker 01

  The worst. What are you not gonna do with this? Yeah, I don't know, that's the other thing, hey, so, uh, I like to ask people with a bit more perspective than me, but like, is it tough to do this stuff now that there's so much shit to watch and everyone's so goddamn educated in entertainment?

• 35:01Mark Normand?

  I know, exactly.

• 35:03Speaker 01

  You can't, you can't. It's harder to surprise people now.

• 35:06Mark Normand?

  That's a good way to put it.

• 35:07Speaker 01

  You know, and it's good because it pushes everyone to be better.

• 35:11Mark Normand?

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  But it is harder to, it used to be, it used to be able to be a lot more mediocre, I think.

• 35:16Mark Normand?

  One thousand percent.

• 35:17Speaker 01

  Get away with it.

• 35:18Mark Normand?

  And the shit that goes viral is shit that you would never expect. You're like, that went viral?

• 35:22Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:22Mark Normand?

  Because you can't pinpoint what the algo or what the people want.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  Right, yeah.

• 35:27Mark Normand?

  Yet. Yet. Don't crack it.

• 35:30Speaker 01

  I mean, we know, we know the, we know the lowest common denominator that will go viral. Like saying the N-word or what, you know.

• 35:38Mark Normand?

  Oh, really?

• 35:38Speaker 01

  If you want to go viral, you could have a hit.

• 35:41Sam Morril?

  Mark calls his manager, he's like, "I'm cooking something up."

• 35:44Mark Normand?

  The kids are gonna love it.

• 35:46Speaker 01

  So we know that, you know what I mean? We know that stuff will.

• 35:49Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 35:49Speaker 01

  But like, quality going viral, it's, I don't know, you know, and, and.

• 35:53Mark Normand?

  It's not easy.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  That's a good point. I don't know, the internet, fuck, man, I, I can't even.

• 35:58Mark Normand?

  Well, this is one of your great Chang insights. Like, you had the Twitter thing before, you had that bit before everybody had it.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  What was it?

• 36:05Mark Normand?

  You know how you said Twitter's like cigarettes?

• 36:07Speaker 01

  Oh, oh.

• 36:07Mark Normand?

  You know, uh.

• 36:08Speaker 01

  Twitter's like cigarettes.

• 36:09Mark Normand?

  It's all right, well, yeah.

• 36:10Speaker 01

  It's such a good, it's such a good object. Thanks for, that's so good, you guys can't even remember.

• 36:12Mark Normand?

  You used the internet when you were pregnant? That was the line.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:15Mark Normand?

  I quote that three times a week.

• 36:17Speaker 01

  Oh, thanks, man, thanks.

• 36:18Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I take credit for it. But yeah, I still quote it.

• 36:20Speaker 01

  I think the bit was, uh, we, we don't know the damage the internet is doing. It could be like drinking alcohol, like in 20 years, we'll be like, I can't believe we let pregnant women use the internet.

• 36:32Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  It's just like drinking.

• 36:34Mark Normand?

  It's so damaging.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  It is, it's dangerous. I switched to this now. I switched to just using, uh.

• 36:40Mark Normand?

  Whoa. Good on ya.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  Just to get off. So you don't have a phone on you anymore? Uh, like, I have a phone somewhere, but I try not to.

• 36:48Mark Normand?

  That's great.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  Turn it off and just use this now. And what, and what's the benefit to that? So you can, you're in the Apple ecosystem, you get all the messages, you get, and you want, you can even take calls on this, but you don't.

• 37:00Mark Normand?

  You can't doom scroll for no reason.

• 37:02Speaker 01

  You can't freaking, yeah.

• 37:03Mark Normand?

  TikTok.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, none of that.

• 37:04Mark Normand?

  That's the move.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  This is the move. This is the move, guys.

• 37:07Sam Morril?

  That's smart.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, back to pagers.

• 37:10Mark Normand?

  DeRosa does the same thing. He's like, "I put my phone at home and I take my watch out. You gotta text me? Great. You gotta call me? Great. But that's it. I'm not gonna just sit there and stare."

• 37:18Speaker 01

  But that's what it is. Like, offline is the new luxury.

• 37:21Mark Normand?

  I know, I know.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  We gotta spend so much money just to get offline now.

• 37:25Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 37:26Speaker 01

  We gotta spend, we gotta hire social media managers to do, we gotta, you know.

• 37:30Sam Morril?

  I bought a typewriter.

• 37:31Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 37:32Sam Morril?

  Digital one, but I put it in the back and I can just, I won't, I can't surf the net.

• 37:35Mark Normand?

  That's good.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, is it the, I know the one.

• 37:40Sam Morril?

  What's it called?

• 37:41Speaker 01

  Um.

• 37:42Sam Morril?

  Like the, it's Smart Write or something?

• 37:45Speaker 01

  It's that, the, the Free Write.

• 37:47Sam Morril?

  Free Write, that's.

• 37:48Speaker 01

  You got that?

• 37:48Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 37:49Speaker 01

  How is it?

• 37:49Sam Morril?

  I like it.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  You like it? Okay.

• 37:51Mark Normand?

  See, you're paying to not have internet. That's, that's crazy.

• 37:54Sam Morril?

  It's crazy, but it, it keeps me off from, like, scrolling.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Does it work?

• 37:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah, I just, I, I do a, they call it the Pomodoro method, I think.

• 38:02Speaker 01

  Yes, it's 20 minutes.

• 38:03Sam Morril?

  Yeah, 20, 30 minutes, whatever. You set a timer, you do it, and then you're like, okay, I'll all in for 20, 30 minutes.

• 38:08Mark Normand?

  Hmm.

• 38:08Sam Morril?

  And then I'll take a break and then I'll go back to it.

• 38:10Mark Normand?

  Whoa. Now, how do you get that shit off of there if there's no internet?

• 38:14Sam Morril?

  It's got wifi, but you can't scroll, so just for, just to email yourself.

• 38:18Mark Normand?

  Wow, how about that?

• 38:20Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 38:20Mark Normand?

  Now, what does that puppy run you?

• 38:22Sam Morril?

  It wasn't cheap.

• 38:22Speaker 01

  It's like 500.

• 38:23Mark Normand?

  How funny is that? That fucking doohickey that looks like a piece of plastic is 500 dollars?

• 38:28Sam Morril?

  It's an.

• 38:29Mark Normand?

  That should be 30 bucks.

• 38:29Speaker 01

  Again, this is the frugal.

• 38:31Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  No, no, I don't think you're cheap. I think you're very frugal, because this is the guy, he, I forgot about this. He works out on scaffolding.

• 38:37Mark Normand?

  That's right.

• 38:38Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 38:38Speaker 01

  He does the New York City workout.

• 38:40Mark Normand?

  I'm not wasting it.

• 38:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:44Sam Morril?

  But you know, uh, Whitney Cummings called me and was like, "You need to get this."

• 38:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 38:49Sam Morril?

  And she was like, "It will change your life."

• 38:50Mark Normand?

  Oh, here we go. Percocet?

• 38:52Sam Morril?

  Yeah. I'm on that too. It's working, dude. Good.

• 38:56Mark Normand?

  Well, what is it? Oh, this.

• 38:57Sam Morril?

  This.

• 38:57Mark Normand?

  This, yeah.

• 38:58Sam Morril?

  Told me on it.

• 38:59Speaker 01

  What, so you're interested in this?

• 39:00Mark Normand?

  I'm interested, yeah, but I also have pretty good, uh, willpower, so I can just, I'll type, but I use a paper. I don't even use my laptop.

• 39:08Sam Morril?

  I like, I use paper too.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:09Sam Morril?

  I like a legal pad.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  Paper's good, legal pad is good.

• 39:12Mark Normand?

  The only problem is you gotta rip it out and take it with you to the show.

• 39:16Speaker 01

  That's not a problem.

• 39:16Mark Normand?

  I know, but it would be nice to have it all in one place.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:20Mark Normand?

  I got 38 pieces of loose leaf in my pocket, you know?

• 39:23Sam Morril?

  Yeah, but you, but then you, you.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  You consolidate.

• 39:25Sam Morril?

  Transfer, yeah, you transfer to a.

• 39:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, you gotta consolidate this.

• 39:28Mark Normand?

  For 50 dollars.

• 39:29Sam Morril?

  Oh.

• 39:29Mark Normand?

  Yeah, like, it's, it's.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  You gotta consolidate this.

• 39:31Mark Normand?

  Okay, there we go. I don't know which one's in order.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  These guys look like...

• 39:37Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's a couple ransom notes here.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  Let me see that.

• 39:40Mark Normand?

  Take it.

• 39:41Speaker 01

  This is great.

• 39:42Mark Normand?

  Just don't lose the order.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 39:44Mark Normand?

  Yeah, this is the new stuff on top.

• 39:46Speaker 01

  I don't want to touch it.

• 39:47Mark Normand?

  Alright, but you get the gist.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Dude, I can't believe you guys had this in your asses the whole time.

• 39:51Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah, all day long.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  You didn't even take it out for the podcast.

• 39:55Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 39:57Mark Normand?

  You gotta keep it in, you don't want to lose it.

• 39:58Speaker 01

  But this adds to the mythology.

• 40:00Mark Normand?

  No, no.

• 40:02Sam Morril?

  I remember better if I just handwrite it.

• 40:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 40:05Sam Morril?

  Yeah, it just kind of seeps in your brain a little better.

• 40:07Mark Normand?

  Agreed. Yeah, this is the future. Okay.

• 40:11Sam Morril?

  It's insane.

• 40:12Mark Normand?

  It is.

• 40:13Sam Morril?

  It is insane.

• 40:14Mark Normand?

  Yeah. Well, everything kind of like podcasts or just radio, it all just kind of comes back, you know?

• 40:18Speaker 01

  I gotta wait for TV to come back, whatever that is.

• 40:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  Now it's radio, back to radio.

• 40:23Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  Back to TV, because...

• 40:25Mark Normand?

  Yeah, we'll get there, but it'll be some new iteration of it.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  It'll be TV straight to your brain.

• 40:29Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 40:30Sam Morril?

  It'll be like smart glasses.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, it'll be straight to your brain TV.

• 40:34Sam Morril?

  If you're tired of your underwear riding up, down, and sideways, it's time for Sheath. Let's see if we're wearing them.

• 40:39Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah. Didn't even a second of doubt.

• 40:43Sam Morril?

  I never doubt. It's all I wear. I love them. Sheath underwear is a total game changer with two pouches, one for your dick and one for your balls. It keeps things cradled right where they're supposed to be. I mean, these are my favorite underwear ever. They look good. Women like them. They always come. They're like, "Where'd you get those? I love those." They never go Swiss cheese on you.

• 41:00Mark Normand?

  No.

• 41:00Sam Morril?

  You never get the Swiss cheese. They stay intact. It's good material. It feels comfortable and it looks great. It's the best.

• 41:07Mark Normand?

  Can't lose.

• 41:07Sam Morril?

  And I'd like some more if possible, if you're listening. If you could send some. I don't like the ones that go this far down. I like the ones that are like here. If you could send me some more.

• 41:15Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 41:16Sam Morril?

  For the winter, maybe.

• 41:17Mark Normand?

  I agree. Too long, you feel like an old man.

• 41:19Sam Morril?

  Yeah, what am I gonna, you know, yeah, old man winters over here coming by you, damn kids.

• 41:24Mark Normand?

  Long johns.

• 41:25Sam Morril?

  Yeah, no, I like it like right here. If you could send me a few more, I'd be very, very grateful. I love them. They're my favorite. I tell everyone to get them. Go to sheathunderwear.com and use promo code DRUNK to get 20% off your first order. Plus, Sheath underwear's 100% money-back guarantee. That's sheathunderwear.com, promo code DRUNK. Get Sheath underwear, support the show, support your balls.

• 41:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 41:46Sam Morril?

  That's the thing, we used to see everyone on the subway now like this. We're gonna see him just in a few years with glasses on like this.

• 41:52Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  I'll push back on this narrative a little bit because I agree we're using our phones too much. But if you look at photos of 1970s New York, everyone's on the newspaper.

• 42:02Mark Normand?

  Everyone's on the paper.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  Okay, so let's calm down with the, we used to be more united as a speaker.

• 42:07Sam Morril?

  But at least the paper you had, at least the paper you had to read.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  Yes, no, I agree.

• 42:11Sam Morril?

  As opposed to now, you're just like ass.

• 42:16Sam Morril?

  Guy eating food and rating it.

• 42:18Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 42:19Speaker 01

  Absolutely, people need to, reading is the antidote to social media.

• 42:23Mark Normand?

  And.

• 42:23Speaker 01

  It forces you to slow down.

• 42:24Mark Normand?

  Sorry, we were all reading the same thing. So we're all knew the news, we all knew the sports score, we all knew what movies were out, whatever, arts and entertainment.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  That was context to society.

• 42:34Mark Normand?

  Now everything's splintered.

• 42:35Sam Morril?

  But then someone goes viral and everyone knows who the Rizler is. We're all on the same page, it's just in a different way. It's just we're on a dumber same page.

• 42:43Mark Normand?

  Way dumber.

• 42:44Speaker 01

  The page is way dumber now.

• 42:45Mark Normand?

  What do you think about autocorrect? I think that made us dumber.

• 42:48Speaker 01

  That made us dumber, but it's got nothing compared to AI now. Because autocorrect made us bad spellers, AI is making us bad thinkers.

• 42:58Mark Normand?

  I agree, I don't use it.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, AI, I've seen it, like I refused to use AI for a few years now and then I was, I saw someone using it this year and I said, okay, I better see what it's about. I'm gonna make fun of this, I better know, at least try it out once. And I used it and it was like wrong.

• 43:17Mark Normand?

  Oh, really?

• 43:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, the stuff I was doing, it wasn't great. It was basically summarizing Google and sometimes it would summarize stuff that I knew was wrong because it was about me. And then, and then I would use it to, what was really cool about it was that it could extract data and I could, I used it to draw a normal distribution curve. And it would, it would extract data and draw this normal distribution curve I was using to prove something racist about a certain race.

• 43:42Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  And my point is that if I didn't know what a normal distribution curve was, I couldn't even use it anyway. So you need to have knowledge of mathematics and, and, and how, and what information you're looking for and humanities and geography, just to use it properly. But I think that there's all people now who, who are just using it as a starting point and not the tool. And I think that's, I think it's gonna make mediocre people dumber.

• 44:08Sam Morril?

  There's gonna be, there's gonna be young people hooking up and the kid's in the bathroom like, how do I make a woman come?

• 44:13Mark Normand?

  I guarantee that's already happened.

• 44:15Sam Morril?

  That's what happened.

• 44:15Mark Normand?

  I've done that.

• 44:16Sam Morril?

  Yeah, I've done it a few times.

• 44:19Sam Morril?

  And it was wrong.

• 44:20Mark Normand?

  Yeah, well, every woman's different. That's why AI is never gonna, never gonna win the Jenga or whatever it's called.

• 44:26Sam Morril?

  You know, it's, it is amazing, because I remember when we-

• 44:28Mark Normand?

  The cookie.

• 44:29Sam Morril?

  Remember when we stopped remembering phone numbers?

• 44:31Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 44:32Sam Morril?

  I thought that was gonna be, I was like, this is crazy. Like, I'm gonna be, it's gonna affect my memory.

• 44:35Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. Everything gets a little, because with the convenience of it all, we all get a little dumber. Like, even back in the day, I know now we sound like old queefs, but you had to pull a map out, you had to find yourself on the map, and then reverse engineer to the, follow the line. It was crazy. Then you'd pull over and go there.

• 44:52Sam Morril?

  Printing directions, too?

• 44:53Mark Normand?

  Printing directions. Remember you got halfway there, you pulled over, you're like, hey, sorry, sir, I'm looking for this. And you go, oh, you gotta go six blocks that way, take a right. Now you're interacting with someone, all that's gone.

• 45:02Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 45:03Mark Normand?

  It's all gone.

• 45:04Speaker 01

  I mean, to bring it back to something even baser, this will appeal to you guys, because you're gross people. But like, my manager in Australia used to tell me, like, he used to be, and then we experienced this too, this is his take, not mine. He said, it used to be like, you had to call, uh, if you wanted to call a girl, you had to call their house phone.

• 45:22Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  And you had to navigate that shit.

• 45:25Mark Normand?

  Deal with their dad.

• 45:26Speaker 01

  Whatever was on the other end of the phone, navigate that, you know? And that, I guess that gave you some kind of skill set to navigate society.

• 45:35Mark Normand?

  A little bit.

• 45:36Speaker 01

  But now it's like, you're just either directly messaging-

• 45:38Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 45:38Speaker 01

  Or you're just going internet boobs.

• 45:40Sam Morril?

  You had to talk to the-

• 45:41Speaker 01

  You had to talk-

• 45:42Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 01

  You had to call, you, you, what do you mean? You, you're the same age.

• 45:46Sam Morril?

  No, I know, I'm remembering, I'm forgetting that, it was like, holy shit.

• 45:49Speaker 01

  You had to call the house, and then who knew who picked up? Someone picked up, you're like, oh, hello, is Stacy in? And then fricking-

• 45:55Sam Morril?

  Stacy's not available, you piece of shit. Put her on the phone, dude.

• 45:58Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  It was like hostage negotiations.

• 46:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  Figure out, navigate that, that's a skill set that-

• 46:03Sam Morril?

  Oh, we would prank call them too, and it was like-

• 46:04Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 46:05Sam Morril?

  Oh, my god. I remember one guy, one guy called my home, like, one dad called my home like a hundred times. And I was like, thank god my parents left town. I was like, if he got them, I was fucked.

• 46:17Mark Normand?

  Oh, shit.

• 46:18Sam Morril?

  There was this girl I, I had a crush on, and my friend, and we like- Kissed at some dance when I was a kid and I was like, it'd be funny. My friend's like, it'd be funny if we call and like, say you wanna bang her to the dead.

• 46:27Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 46:28Sam Morril?

  And, uh, and we did and he's like, I'll fucking kill you. I'll fucking murder you. And I was like, oh shit. He's like, where are your parents? I was like, uh, and I hung up and then, uh.

• 46:38Mark Normand?

  Did he know it was you? He didn't recognize the, the.

• 46:40Sam Morril?

  The star six nine.

• 46:41Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 46:42Sam Morril?

  So we just kept calling back and I was like, oh, fuck.

• 46:46Mark Normand?

  Oh, no, I forgot about six nine.

• 46:48Sam Morril?

  He tried so many times, I was like, fuck, he's gonna, I'm like, delete message, delete message.

• 46:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 46:52Sam Morril?

  Trying to figure out how to.

• 46:53Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  How do you resolve? Can you just unplug the phone?

• 46:57Sam Morril?

  I guess I could have, I think, uh, I, I remember he would leave messages and I would just keep deleting them. I got away with it.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  Right, and so he, eventually he gave up.

• 47:04Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 47:05Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  America was crazy back then, remember you, you, like, your address was just in a phone book.

• 47:11Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

• 47:12Speaker 01

  Someone could look up and come and kill you.

• 47:14Mark Normand?

  That's so true, it was just right there.

• 47:17Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  You could look up, uh, whatever, the Morrells.

• 47:19Sam Morril?

  Unlisted was a power move.

• 47:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  That was like, whoa, this dude must be some kinda hot shot.

• 47:24Mark Normand?

  Well, it's funny, cause now we go, he's been doxxed.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:27Mark Normand?

  Eight years ago, I was like, you're in the book. You know, like, doxx my ass, you're, you're.

• 47:32Sam Morril?

  If you have a shitty name, you're getting prank called.

• 47:34Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that was big.

• 47:36Sam Morril?

  Harry Sack, you're fucked.

• 47:37Mark Normand?

  You're done, you're done.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 47:39Mark Normand?

  In my neighborhood, I lived in a black neighborhood, so people would call me like, and I'd go, hello? And they'd go, oh, man, wrong number. I'd do it immediately. They'd go off my voice. Those were different times.

• 47:51Speaker 01

  But, yeah, that, America is actually very hard to stay, um, uh, private, eh?

• 47:56Mark Normand?

  I know, I know.

• 47:57Speaker 01

  Everything was everywhere.

• 47:58Sam Morril?

  And now, now we're voluntarily sharing so much.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, but what, what was, what was the logic of? I guess people were just more trusting back then.

• 48:05Mark Normand?

  I think so.

• 48:06Speaker 01

  Put your phone number in the phone book, it was fine.

• 48:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 48:09Speaker 01

  In case, you know, a long-lost relative is looking for me.

• 48:11Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  My high school friend is looking for me, at least he's dead and.

• 48:14Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I mean, people would put on their, their doormat, the Johnsons, or whatever, everything was a little more loose.

• 48:19Sam Morril?

  When is it good that someone's looking for you?

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Uh, it's never.

• 48:22Sam Morril?

  It's never good.

• 48:23Mark Normand?

  Not, no, rarely, 99% of the time. That's bad. You know, I was thinking about this. Remember getting your films developed, like your pictures developed? That was weird, because A, a guy was just looking at your shit.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, someone was looking at your shit.

• 48:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 48:37Speaker 01

  Someone was looking at your shit, and also, sometimes you spent money and the photo was...

• 48:42Mark Normand?

  Was all blotted out.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was fucked.

• 48:44Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  You're like, oh, this is a bad one. We took a bad one.

• 48:47Mark Normand?

  Well, my first thought was, hey, what the fu- who's this weirdo looking at my shit? Then I realized, I post half my shit online anyway. It's all the same.

• 48:54Sam Morril?

  More weirdos. With the joke with the disposal camera, where you just open your pants.

• 48:58Mark Normand?

  Oh, that was fun.

• 49:00Sam Morril?

  And the guy's like, oh, fuck.

• 49:02Speaker 01

  His job, his duty sworn to develop those photos, and you had to look at your dick though.

• 49:07Mark Normand?

  But the dick pic spike, when that shit ended, like when that shit ended, the dick pic went way up. Because you could just send it, you know?

• 49:15Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 49:16Mark Normand?

  Back then, to get a dick pic.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  Damn, we sound so old.

• 49:19Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  I'm like, almost 40.

• 49:21Mark Normand?

  But here's my thing, I'm glad, this is the, the phone is the first invention in history. I'm glad I lived before it. Like, you see what I'm saying? Like, if penicillin, no one's like, I'm glad I grew up before penicillin. But the phone, I'm like, oh, great.

• 49:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I'm glad I, my brain wasn't damaged.

• 49:38Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes.

• 49:39Sam Morril?

  I remember when Snake on a Nokia was like, oh my god, Snake, this is incredible.

• 49:43Mark Normand?

  That was big. Even the phone camera, like the old one, the Razor had a little phone camera, that blew my mind.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, take a picture of your dick.

• 49:50Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 49:52Sam Morril?

  It all comes back to the dick.

• 49:54Mark Normand?

  You could send a JPG.

• 49:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:56Sam Morril?

  The Razor was a power move, because you, you get the guy who didn't say goodbye, would just go...

• 50:01Mark Normand?

  Oh, the clamshell. That was good.

• 50:03Sam Morril?

  Thought he was already gold.

• 50:06Speaker 01

  Did you guys have pagers?

• 50:07Mark Normand?

  I had it for a hot minute, I had a pager.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  Minnow 2 in Singapore was pretty big.

• 50:12Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  Pager culture was big, yeah. Motorola pagers.

• 50:16Mark Normand?

  The thing about the pager was, I hated it, because I was like, ah, people can find me.

• 50:20Speaker 01

  Oh, you hated that?

• 50:20Mark Normand?

  I got rid of it, then here we are.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Here you are. We are 2025.

• 50:25Sam Morril?

  That was a big joke at comedy clubs for a while, like, please silence your phones, or if you have a pager, you're living in the wrong year. And they'd be like, alright, alright. They're like, we're luckily, hey, what are you, a drug dealer? It would get a big laugh. And you're like, alright.

• 50:39Mark Normand?

  That was everywhere.

• 50:40Sam Morril?

  That was like, that was like the stock hack host line in like 2008. Yeah.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  Oh, the host, not even a VO?

• 50:46Sam Morril?

  No, no, it was the host. He'd be like, you got a pager? Look at this fucking guy. If there was crowd work instacalls back then, there'd be a lot of dudes being like, this guy's got a pager.

• 50:55Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 50:56Sam Morril?

  Explode.

• 50:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:57Mark Normand?

  And my wife will text me 80 times a day, but just think like, my dad went to work at 8:30, got there at 9, worked till 5, got home at 5:30, never heard from the wife.

• 51:08Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 51:08Mark Normand?

  It's not like she was calling him at his office, maybe for an emergency.

• 51:11Sam Morril?

  Call you, yeah.

• 51:12Mark Normand?

  That's, that's heaven.

• 51:13Sam Morril?

  Sure. That's, Rock is a bit about that, like, why the marriages lasted longer.

• 51:17Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 51:19Sam Morril?

  Just disappear and then you come back.

• 51:21Mark Normand?

  That's big.

• 51:21Sam Morril?

  All day.

• 51:22Mark Normand?

  That's big.

• 51:23Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  That, that's something. Um, yeah, but now, it's, one thing I, I saw someone have this take on, on the internet. I wish I could give them credit, but it was something about how we're, we're using AI to do the creative, when the creative is the fun part.

• 51:43Mark Normand?

  Ooh.

• 51:43Speaker 01

  And we should be using AI to do the marketing.

• 51:45Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Cause the marketing is what we hate.

• 51:48Mark Normand?

  Good point.

• 51:49Speaker 01

  But instead, we're doing the marketing while we use AI to do the creative. And it's like, we're doing the worst job and having them do, having the fucking AI do the best part of the job.

• 51:58Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  So it's like, how come I can't get AI to fucking sell these tickets?

• 52:04Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 52:04Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  Like, we're using it to crea-, yeah.

• 52:07Mark Normand?

  Cause people are using for, for like, copy and emails and like, I need a notary printed, or a whatever, a cover letter. People use it for that, but yeah, the marketing, that's a good point.

• 52:18Speaker 01

  You know the guy go, hey, do you like comedy? Giving out flyers? That should be AI.

• 52:22Mark Normand?

  That should be AI.

• 52:24Sam Morril?

  Yeah, dude, I'll tell you, like, some of the AI is fucking brutal, though. I, I had a cable outage and I'm like, you know, trying to get to a person, they're like, a person's an hour wait, AI can talk to you.

• 52:36Mark Normand?

  Oh, no.

• 52:37Sam Morril?

  Let me try AI. I'm doing the typing back and forth and it's like, It's like, uh, don't understand what this means. Again, again, I'm like, it's one of the two options you gave me and they're like, I don't understand. I'm like, a human will not just malfunction.

• 52:50Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 52:51Sam Morril?

  So there's still work to be done, but like, I mean, that's all those jobs, like in India and stuff. They're going to AI.

• 52:57Mark Normand?

  Yep, yep, sure, that's true.

• 52:59Sam Morril?

  And it's not a, it's not a well-oiled machine, at least yet, it's not.

• 53:02Mark Normand?

  No, no.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  I do think comedy is hard too. The more I see AI, the more I'm like, oh, you guys can't replace this on stage live. You know what I mean?

• 53:12Sam Morril?

  Cut to us all canceling our next tours. Robot Ronnie.

• 53:16Mark Normand?

  Well, type in, make me a Ronnie joke. Do you got, you got chat GPT?

• 53:20Speaker 01

  No, don't do this, you'll teach it, don't do this.

• 53:22Sam Morril?

  Uh, anyone could, anyone could do it.

• 53:24Mark Normand?

  Do, do mine then.

• 53:25Speaker 01

  No, do it, do Mark Norman.

• 53:26Sam Morril?

  Let's do, yeah, let's do all, let's do a joke of all of us.

• 53:28Mark Normand?

  Okay, put in a one hour photo. Make a joke about, uh, photo development in the nineties.

• 53:34Sam Morril?

  And let's get a Norman take, a Ronnie take and a Sam take. Let's see what we get.

• 53:38Mark Normand?

  Okay, okay, this is exciting. Now we're doing something.

• 53:42Sam Morril?

  I hate it too, but we need to know.

• 53:44Mark Normand?

  I know, you gotta know what you're up against.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  Sure, here's one Mark Norman's voice.

• 53:48Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  Remember photo development in the nineties? Yeah, you drop off a roll of film, wait three days and pray half of it wasn't just your thumb. Three days, that's how long it took to find out your ugly November nowadays is instant.

• 53:59Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  That's how long it took for you to find out you're ugly. Nowadays is instant.

• 54:04Mark Normand?

  That's not bad.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  Back then I was like, sorry pal, you're unattractive. But we had to double check in the lab, comedy. Actually said comedy.

• 54:12Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 54:13Sam Morril?

  That's crazy.

• 54:13Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 54:14Speaker 01

  That's how much of your brain is in it.

• 54:16Mark Normand?

  Oh my god.

• 54:17Sam Morril?

  Let's see what we got for me.

• 54:19Speaker 01

  You should do this.

• 54:20Sam Morril?

  I'm sorry, my eyes.

• 54:23Sam Morril?

  Man, photo development in the nineties was wild. You drop off a roll of film, wait a week and then find out, yeah, you wasted thirty six shots on your buddy blinking. And then the guy at CBS all of it first. And he's like, hey, I just wanted pictures of my vacation, not a custody battle for my dignity.

• 54:40Mark Normand?

  Hmm, decent wording at the end, but not funny at all.

• 54:42Sam Morril?

  It's not funny.

• 54:43Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 54:43Sam Morril?

  It's good word choice, but it's not, it's like, sounds like a joke, but it's not a joke.

• 54:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah, so I did nail you.

• 54:49Sam Morril?

  AI Mike Norman got me, dude.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  Oh shit, oh no, oh no.

• 54:55Mark Normand?

  Photo, alright, I'll do yours. Okay, should I do the eyes?

• 54:58Sam Morril?

  Do that.

• 54:58Mark Normand?

  No, okay. Photo development in the 90s was the dumbest thing ever. You take pictures, then you have to wait a week to see them, a week! What is this, the Stone Age? And when you finally get them back, half are blurry and the other half are your mom's finger. Why did I pay $12 to find out my family doesn't know how to use a camera?

• 55:16Sam Morril?

  Ronnie and mine were kinda similar.

• 55:18Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 55:20Sam Morril?

  AI Ronnie's a joke thief.

• 55:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:22Sam Morril?

  Now, now put it in Carlos Mencia's voice.

• 55:27Mark Normand?

  Mine had the ugly thing in it, which, I don't know why they-

• 55:29Sam Morril?

  I like the ugly term.

• 55:30Mark Normand?

  They only, it was the best term, but why'd they have to make, they made me the mean guy?

• 55:33Sam Morril?

  You're the mean guy, dude.

• 55:34Mark Normand?

  I'm mean.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  You are the mean guy.

• 55:35Mark Normand?

  I'm Lisa Lampanelli.

• 55:39Mark Normand?

  Queen of me.

• 55:39Sam Morril?

  Can we get a Mencia take or no?

• 55:41Mark Normand?

  Oh shit. Alright, who's got a Mexican accent? Back in the 90s, you had to take your film to get developed. Yeah, drop it off, wait a week, come back, surprise! Just 24 pictures of your dad's hairy back at the beach and you still have to pay for it. Only in the 90s could you spend money to find out your family's ugly. Di-di-di. Wow, they got his catchphrase.

• 56:01Speaker 01

  Oh, that's his catchphrase?

• 56:01Mark Normand?

  Yeah, he used to do that.

• 56:03Sam Morril?

  It was like the retard voice and he got away, that was like his whole thing.

• 56:07Mark Normand?

  Yeah, alright.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  I didn't even know.

• 56:09Mark Normand?

  Rogan's pissed about this bit.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  He's like, yeah. He's talking about AI Mencia now?

• 56:18Mark Normand?

  Yeah, isn't that funny that Rogan got kicked out of the store for that and his management dropped him?

• 56:22Sam Morril?

  Wow.

• 56:23Mark Normand?

  After that fight.

• 56:23Speaker 01

  Yes, I remember that.

• 56:25Sam Morril?

  Different time.

• 56:25Mark Normand?

  And then now look who's, uh, you know, so it just shows, like, time will really tell.

• 56:30Speaker 01

  I guess, yeah.

• 56:31Mark Normand?

  You know, or-

• 56:32Speaker 01

  This is scary though, I don't dare to.

• 56:33Sam Morril?

  I don't dare.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  I don't dare to type this in, I don't wanna teach you anything.

• 56:36Mark Normand?

  But this is good, we're, we're safe for another couple of years, I hope.

• 56:40Speaker 01

  For six months.

• 56:42Sam Morril?

  We just had one take and it kinda, didn't do much with our voices.

• 56:45Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 56:46Mark Normand?

  No creativity, it's stuck at a wall.

• 56:50Speaker 01

  Yes, I mean, this, if, uh, more honorable people would use this as a hack check.

• 56:58Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:59Speaker 01

  But they won't, but I'm just saying, if it's here, it's hacked.

• 57:02Mark Normand?

  That is a pretty good tool, though, at least.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  But it is good, but no one's gonna use it back.

• 57:07Mark Normand?

  Ah, I think that's a good, I might start doing that.

• 57:09Sam Morril?

  I remember we did.

• 57:10Mark Normand?

  Hack check, like, some of us have this?

• 57:11Sam Morril?

  I remember a friend and I cheated in school once, like, we were really young, and we would do a thing, like, I'd do one paper, he'd do the other, and we were just, we were just copy and copy each other, and we're trying to make sure I made, he made sure that I wouldn't, uh, copy his verbatim, I was, he's like, make sure you make changes to the sentences, like, you got it, and I would look, and he, he put the word kike every other sentence to make sure I read it. And I was like, thank God, I fucking, I, I usually didn't even look.

• 57:34Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 57:35Sam Morril?

  Can you imagine handing that one in?

• 57:37Mark Normand?

  That's hilarious. That could be a bit, that's a funny story.

• 57:40Speaker 01

  That's so funny. That's really funny.

• 57:41Mark Normand?

  That's a funny friend.

• 57:42Speaker 01

  Was that in college or?

• 57:43Sam Morril?

  High school.

• 57:44Speaker 01

  Oh, high school, alright.

• 57:45Mark Normand?

  Was he Jewish?

• 57:46Sam Morril?

  Uh, he was not.

• 57:47Mark Normand?

  Even better.

• 57:48Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 57:49Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's great.

• 57:50Sam Morril?

  Well, that's the types of friendships we had.

• 57:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 57:53Speaker 01

  But he did it just to encourage you.

• 57:55Sam Morril?

  Encouraged me to read.

• 57:58Sam Morril?

  He used racism for me to cheat less.

• 58:00Mark Normand?

  That's great.

• 58:01Speaker 01

  It's great.

• 58:02Mark Normand?

  That's the bit.

• 58:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know you love this. I know you love it.

• 58:04Mark Normand?

  That's great. See, racism can be good.

• 58:07Speaker 01

  Racism can be good.

• 58:09Sam Morril?

  He pushed me.

• 58:09Mark Normand?

  Especially in a school setting.

• 58:10Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 58:11Mark Normand?

  Oh, hooked on phonics.

• 58:15Mark Normand?

  Alright.

• 58:16Sam Morril?

  Yeah, man, you got a lot of dates coming up, you go, you're going out with Hassan Minaj.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  Going out with Hassan, however you pronounce his name, I don't know.

• 58:23Sam Morril?

  I thought it was Hassan.

• 58:23Speaker 01

  Nobody knows, it's in Urdu, you know what, sorry, we can't speak Urdu.

• 58:27Mark Normand?

  Urdu, don't.

• 58:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, um, we're going out, we're doing a two-hander show, we're both on stage at the same time.

• 58:35Sam Morril?

  And no stand-up?

• 58:37Speaker 01

  I mean, I, that's comedy, is it?

• 58:40Sam Morril?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's, but it's you guys, like, kind of, is it?

• 58:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're not, we're not doing, like, I do thirty, he does thirty minutes, and then we come on the end and bullshit, it's, the whole show is us on stage, litigating our grievances against each other, and, um,

• 58:54Mark Normand?

  That's awesome.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  We got some surprises in there, we have, we have production value, it's not just, you know, two guys in t-shirts, holding a bunch of whiskeys and just being like, we can make money, right, this is, you, you'll pay for this, right?

• 59:07Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 59:08Speaker 01

  You put an effort into this.

• 59:10Mark Normand?

  Does he wear a suit, or just, oh, you're both suiting up, boy, okay.

• 59:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think there's something also with, like, uh, if you're Asian in, in America, I think you gotta dress up a bit, otherwise it's easy to become a bit of a... You know.

• 59:24Mark Normand?

  Yeah, like.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  You, you look like the, you don't, you, you don't want to be the, the butt of the joke. You want to be dishing it out.

• 59:30Mark Normand?

  Oh, I never thought.

• 59:31Sam Morril?

  He's a well dressed guy, too.

• 59:32Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, he looks great. Great hair, everything, but even like the five o'clock shadows, perfect.

• 59:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, perfect, everything. He's not oppressed at all.

• 59:39Mark Normand?

  But you're right. Bobby Lee looks like hell. I mean, you see Bobby Lee, he looks like he's been at a music fest for three weeks, got a weird t-shirt, a yellow hat on.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  Bobby rocks the chaotic look.

• 59:50Mark Normand?

  He does, that's true, that's a good point.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  He rocks the chaos, he's the, you know, fifty year old in a beanie.

• 59:56Mark Normand?

  Right, he was a skateboarder.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  Beanie and t-shirt and he's, you know.

• 1:00:00Mark Normand?

  Very LA, California, cool, laid back guy.

• 1:00:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, I don't know about.

• 1:00:04Sam Morril?

  He's not laid.

• 1:00:05Mark Normand?

  Ah, that's true, he's pretty high strung and he's gonna kill himself, but yeah, you know what I mean.

• 1:00:09Sam Morril?

  He does always look like he just got out of rehab.

• 1:00:11Mark Normand?

  He does.

• 1:00:12Sam Morril?

  You don't know if he's going in or going out.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  But he's always very supportive of.

• 1:00:15Sam Morril?

  I love, we love Bobby Lee.

• 1:00:17Speaker 01

  Bobby's great.

• 1:00:17Mark Normand?

  Maybe the, uh, the Jordan of podcasting. I mean, who's a better podcaster than Bobby Lee?

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  Definitely not me.

• 1:00:25Mark Normand?

  No.

• 1:00:27Sam Morril?

  He is, he is unreal.

• 1:00:28Mark Normand?

  He's unreal, he could.

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  He's so good at podcasting that he doesn't need to release any specials.

• 1:00:34Mark Normand?

  That's true, that's true.

• 1:00:35Speaker 01

  Talking shit, he's so good at podcast.

• 1:00:36Sam Morril?

  He's putting one out, though.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  Has he?

• 1:00:38Mark Normand?

  He is, he's going to.

• 1:00:40Speaker 01

  That's, that's, he's said.

• 1:00:42Mark Normand?

  He says.

• 1:00:43Speaker 01

  For like years.

• 1:00:43Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  But, but he's hilarious, you know, killer, he could play anytime he wants, but his podcasting is so strong that once you have a killer fadeaway, I mean, do you even need to go left anymore, like, you know? I don't know what the.

• 1:00:56Sam Morril?

  His, his Jordan thing is, his standup special's gonna be Jordan playing baseball.

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Just to stretch yourself, I guess.

• 1:01:03Sam Morril?

  No, you know what, he, he, uh, he needs like an assistant to just go through all of his amazing stories from podcasts and just hand them to him and then he works them out on stage.

• 1:01:12Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:01:13Sam Morril?

  Because the amount of moments he has that are just pure gold on.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:01:16Mark Normand?

  Gold. I can think of one story he shouldn't use, but mostly all of them, really good.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's killer. He's a killer. He's OG as well. He's one of the original.

• 1:01:25Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:25Sam Morril?

  Who were comics when you first came here who were like really cool to you besides us?

• 1:01:29Mark Normand?

  And you looked up to?

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  Before I came here, before I came here, it was Todd Barry, Bill Burr, it was Louis, it was Colin Quinn.

• 1:01:43Sam Morril?

  Didn't Burr slide in your Facebook?

• 1:01:45Speaker 01

  Hannibal. Bill Burr slid into my Facebook, yes.

• 1:01:48Mark Normand?

  Whoa, really?

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was very nice to, out of nowhere, he just messaged me on Facebook.

• 1:01:53Mark Normand?

  He was just like, Jimmy Oh Yang, I'm a big fan.

• 1:01:55Speaker 01

  He said he saw my JFL set, not even a, you know, not even a headline spot, it was just like a 10-minute set on Just for Laughs. He said he watched it on a plane.

• 1:02:08Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  He said he loved the bit.

• 1:02:09Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:02:10Speaker 01

  He reached out and just said, I just want to let you know I love the bit and hope we can work together.

• 1:02:13Mark Normand?

  That's great.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  And I said, man, you're a legend and I live in Australia, so I don't know if I'll ever meet you, but, you know, thank you for reaching out. And he said, I'm touring in Australia next year. I'd love for you to be on.

• 1:02:24Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:02:26Sam Morril?

  That's pretty cool.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  It's super cool. It's super cool. I didn't even believe it was him until, because his picture was a truck.

• 1:02:32Mark Normand?

  Oh, interesting.

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  This could be anybody, so I didn't even believe it.

• 1:02:35Mark Normand?

  Good comics watch comedy, I've noticed. Like Seinfeld's always watching. He loves you as well. He's a big, he's always bringing you up. But I feel like, like, when I, I used to open for Louis and he was like, you know this Carmichael guy? He's funny. And I was like, really? Oh, yeah, you're what? You know Carmichael? Because he wasn't Carmichael yet. He wasn't on every HBO special. But I remember, he was like, that Hannibal guy, he's all right. I mean, he was bigger, but they knew all their stuff. And so that was always impressive to me.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you got, like, that's comedy, right? Like, we

• 1:03:06Mark Normand?

  I guess so.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  I think that's what separates us from influencers is that I think we appreciate the history of it more.

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure. And history being literally what someone did last week. Like, the history of it, history of, like, everyone's bits, who's done what, like, we, we love it. And where it's going.

• 1:03:25Sam Morril?

  Let me see a funny young comic.

• 1:03:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, it's funny, it's like, damn, and, and, yeah, anyway, I, I, I really think that's what separates the comedy comedians from the other, um, art forms, you know, it's like, man, we always like, wanna hear this great bit from someone else, like, "Oh, you heard that bit? Oh." And also, I think you said it, right, only hacks love their material. I think you told me that.

• 1:03:47Sam Morril?

  It's crazy, I think it's crazy.

• 1:03:49Speaker 01

  Only hacks love their bit.

• 1:03:50Sam Morril?

  If you're doing your bit enough, you gotta hate it, right? So you gotta, you gotta move on to the next one.

• 1:03:55Speaker 01

  Sure, yeah, and even if you have a bit that's good, you're like, oh.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  I fooled these idiots again. Yeah. Nah, this was a good bit.

• 1:04:04Sam Morril?

  I just feel like every good comic I've ever met is just living in fear of their next good bit.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 1:04:10Sam Morril?

  And they can't, I mean, it's not a healthy way to live, but I feel like every good comic, they're like, they don't enjoy the present enough. And they're like, if they have a killer bit, they can't enjoy it, because they're like, how the fuck am I gonna write another one?

• 1:04:19Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 1:04:20Sam Morril?

  You don't even really enjoy it.

• 1:04:21Speaker 01

  Never happy.

• 1:04:22Sam Morril?

  And then, uh, how the fuck am I gonna write another? And then the people, I, I, I should be more, look, there's some people I'm sure love their shit who aren't hacks, but, but it does, but it, but it does feel right, right?

• 1:04:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, it feels right. I, I used to think the only way I could have a good set was if I had a killer bit that worked perfectly, I wrote a new bit onstage in the same set, and I had a good crowd interaction. Wow. If those three things didn't happen, I'm like, ah, I'm just a hack. Yeah. And even when those three things happen, it's like what you said, you're like, oh shit, this is not happening again, and then.

• 1:04:57Sam Morril?

  Yeah, when you're killing, you're kinda like, well, it should be killing, I've been torn with this shit for a while. When you don't kill, you're like, I'm not killing with this shit?

• 1:05:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:03Sam Morril?

  I've been torn with this. It's hard to ever feel good, but then, uh, yeah, man, I mean, we always are, I think, just living in fear is part of it.

• 1:05:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, it's part of it, and it's great.

• 1:05:14Sam Morril?

  But we were talking a lot about the Billy Joel doc recently, because he was writing his best shit when his life was just chaos.

• 1:05:21Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:05:22Sam Morril?

  I wish I didn't relate to that, but like, I do feel like, I'm like, my jokes that are working, I'm like, wow, I had a really stupid night. That's a bit. Sometimes, sometimes something bad happens to me that's outside my control, but I do feel like it's easier to create when you're just gifted a ridiculous scenario.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  Situation.

• 1:05:37Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:38Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I'm the opposite. When I'm, my life's in turmoil, I can't get creative, because I'm too worked up and thinking about it. So I think it's different strokes, but, yeah, the Billy Joel thing, he's getting divorced, his money got stolen, he's like, I'm going back to work and I'm writing songs, and he was putting out his best shit.

• 1:05:54Sam Morril?

  Yeah, his hangover song was, "You had to be a big shot."

• 1:05:57Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:05:58Sam Morril?

  He was like, "I'm yelling at myself hungover."

• 1:06:00Mark Normand?

  He wrote "Piano Man" when he was working at a bar as the piano guy, and he's like, "This sucks, I'll write a song about it."

• 1:06:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes the constraints are more creative.

• 1:06:10Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:06:10Speaker 01

  Sometimes the constraints, literally, in filmmaking or sketch or something, it's like, not having unlimited options and resources actually is what makes it funnier. So sometimes comedy is like that, too. It's like, having, you know, this shitty situation, or like, not having enough time to be creative or whatever is what, you know, the constraints is what makes you kind of rise to it.

• 1:06:32Mark Normand?

  Yeah, like, you ever had to turn a dirty joke clean to get it on something? It tends to be a little more well-written, because you had to work around those goalposts a little bit.

• 1:06:42Sam Morril?

  You're unfailing, you're like, "And then I F'ed her in the behind."

• 1:06:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:06:49Mark Normand?

  I put my index in her jarringa.

• 1:06:54Mark Normand?

  Bajinga, sorry.

• 1:06:57Mark Normand?

  It's a weird word.

• 1:06:58Sam Morril?

  Nice beeve.

• 1:07:00Mark Normand?

  Leave it to Beaver.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  I wonder if you can say Beaver on, on...

• 1:07:04Mark Normand?

  Oh, no chance.

• 1:07:05Sam Morril?

  Not in the context of vagina.

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  Well, that's what I'm saying. What if you just go, "No, no, it's the animal, I'm talking about the animal."

• 1:07:11Sam Morril?

  You know, the animal where you just go.

• 1:07:14Sam Morril?

  What about, uh, yeah, I'm trying to think of some others, like you make a clean joke. But then sometimes when you, those constraints will really help you, like a low budget movie, the script has to be fucking. Like even, I don't know what the budget for Megan was, but they, I mean, they had, you know.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:30Sam Morril?

  We had to be a fun script, right?

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  We had constraints on that, yeah, um, just by, yeah, we, and it was, um, uh, I'm trying to think of, um.

• 1:07:42Mark Normand?

  But flying you guys out to New Zealand's not cheap.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  No, at that time, it was, it was a proper movie budget, but they were constrained, because you, you don't have unlimited special effects money. So you had to, you know, figure out how to, uh, be smart with it. So they had a, I guess, this is not for me to say, I mean, the director is probably better suited to talk about, but we had a, a movement genius of a girl be the doll.

• 1:08:07Mark Normand?

  Mm, oh.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  Instead of pure CGI. We, they put a, a, a girl who, girl who had perfect just body control.

• 1:08:15Mark Normand?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:08:15Speaker 01

  And, and I think, I don't know if it was all budgetary reasons, or that was his vision, but she is the one who did that dance, that, that clip, because of that, it went viral.

• 1:08:27Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 1:08:28Speaker 01

  Good. And then it made the, it made the movie pop.

• 1:08:31Mark Normand?

  Whoa, there you go.

• 1:08:32Speaker 01

  Versus, I don't know if they had unlimited budget, or they have just CGI the whole thing, you know, I don't know. I don't know if that's a creative choice or not, but.

• 1:08:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:39Speaker 01

  That's an example of having some constraints, I think.

• 1:08:42Mark Normand?

  Yeah, and also a good example of a human beating the, yeah, beating the robot.

• 1:08:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, human beating AI, yes.

• 1:08:50Mark Normand?

  We gotta start winding down, but I gotta ask you about the Marvel, you're in the Marvel verse.

• 1:08:54Sam Morril?

  That's right.

• 1:08:54Mark Normand?

  That's fun.

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's okay.

• 1:08:56Mark Normand?

  What do you mean? You get the suit, you get the muscles, you get the.

• 1:08:59Speaker 01

  No, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm the.

• 1:09:02Mark Normand?

  Well, you were one of them.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  No, no, I'm not. Oh, you guys are being racist now.

• 1:09:05Mark Normand?

  Oh, wait a minute.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  I was in the Marvel movie, but I'm not the superhero guy.

• 1:09:08Sam Morril?

  You thought he was a fucking star?

• 1:09:10Speaker 01

  You thought it was Shang-Chi?

• 1:09:11Sam Morril?

  Wow. He did this to Kool Mael, too.

• 1:09:14Mark Normand?

  My Apple Watch is going off.

• 1:09:15Speaker 01

  Guy.

• 1:09:16Mark Normand?

  No, not that guy.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  I'm not that guy.

• 1:09:18Mark Normand?

  I'm thinking of a different guy. Oh, I'm thinking of a Squid Game.

• 1:09:21Speaker 01

  You're thinking of Squid? Wow, that's awful.

• 1:09:25Sam Morril?

  This was, didn't this come out during COVID, too?

• 1:09:27Speaker 01

  This was during COVID, we filmed it during COVID, yeah. I'm, I am in.

• 1:09:29Mark Normand?

  You're in this, right?

• 1:09:30Speaker 01

  I am in.

• 1:09:31Mark Normand?

  Okay, okay.

• 1:09:34Mark Normand?

  Right? I can't tell if you're joking.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  No, I mean this, I'm not, I'm not the guy. I'm not the Shang-Chi.

• 1:09:40Mark Normand?

  I never actually saw the box or anything, so I just assumed, oh, he's in it, he must be the guy.

• 1:09:47Mark Normand?

  But I wasn't, I didn't think you and that guy were the same person. I just thought you were the star. But I never knew what the poster looked like.

• 1:09:54Speaker 01

  Dude, I'm not the star of Marvel Shang-Chi.

• 1:09:57Mark Normand?

  Oh, I thought you were.

• 1:09:58Speaker 01

  A very minor character.

• 1:09:59Mark Normand?

  See, like, look, your face is next to the title there, so I just assumed, oh, wait, go to the left.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a, that's a fan made.

• 1:10:07Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:10:09Sam Morril?

  You were in another movie I saw a couple of years ago. Fuck, The Two Girls, right? The Two Girls, you know what I'm talking about?

• 1:10:14Mark Normand?

  Uh oh, one cup?

• 1:10:17Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:10:18Sam Morril?

  You were the guy in the nightclub, weren't you?

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:10:21Sam Morril?

  Am I fucking?

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  Oh, Joyride?

• 1:10:22Sam Morril?

  Boom, I was right.

• 1:10:24Mark Normand?

  Woo! Thank God.

• 1:10:27Sam Morril?

  Welcome to a new episode of Right or Racist?

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  I, I should play this game the whole time about, can you guess what movie is?

• 1:10:36Sam Morril?

  But is that the point now, if a big Asian movie comes out and you're not in it, what are they even doing?

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:10:40Mark Normand?

  You were in Crazy Rich Asians and Call Me Maybe.

• 1:10:43Sam Morril?

  You were hilarious in this.

• 1:10:44Mark Normand?

  I know, I know.

• 1:10:47Speaker 01

  I'm surprised you, you could name the, okay, name, name another movie I was in.

• 1:10:52Sam Morril?

  Ronnie Chang, Love It or Hate It?

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  That's a special.

• 1:10:55Sam Morril?

  That's, who are you in it or not, Ronnie? Well?

• 1:10:58Mark Normand?

  Oh, you were in Vacation Friends 2.

• 1:10:59Speaker 01

  Was I in Vacation Friends 2?

• 1:11:01Mark Normand?

  I thought.

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  Yes, I am.

• 1:11:02Mark Normand?

  Hey!

• 1:11:04Sam Morril?

  You were in the first one there.

• 1:11:05Mark Normand?

  Oh, there it is.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  Look at this impressive IMDb that you know nothing about.

• 1:11:12Mark Normand?

  That is impressive. How can I keep track?

• 1:11:14Speaker 01

  You're in a lot of movies, I mean, a ton of them.

• 1:11:15Mark Normand?

  Vacation Friends 1.

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. I was not in Vacation Friends 1.

• 1:11:19Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:11:20Sam Morril?

  Dude, New Tuesday, that's one of my faves.

• 1:11:23Mark Normand?

  Oh, man.

• 1:11:24Sam Morril?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:11:25Speaker 01

  I wrote the captions to it, I wrote the captions to it.

• 1:11:27Mark Normand?

  Uh huh.

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:11:29Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 1:11:30Speaker 01

  You have friends who care about your stuff.

• 1:11:32Mark Normand?

  Wow, that's a lot of flit, a lot of flit.

• 1:11:34Speaker 01

  I know everything you've been in. You're in Joker.

• 1:11:37Mark Normand?

  There you go, that's the one.

• 1:11:39Speaker 01

  Joker was great. You were at the American Music Awards, warming up.

• 1:11:46Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:11:47Speaker 01

  You warmed up for them at like, Radio City?

• 1:11:50Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:11:51Speaker 01

  And you were bombing.

• 1:11:51Mark Normand?

  A big bomb.

• 1:11:53Speaker 01

  I think the Joker had a better set. The Joker had a better set than you at the thing.

• 1:11:58Mark Normand?

  It was bad.

• 1:11:59Speaker 01

  This is what's so frustrating to me is that...

• 1:12:01Mark Normand?

  That was Joker 2.

• 1:12:05Speaker 01

  That's the start of you. You panic, you just start doing a musical number? That's what's so frustrating, because you're a brilliant comic, one of the greatest.

• 1:12:13Mark Normand?

  Alright, come on, what are you doing there?

• 1:12:14Speaker 01

  And then if you're bombing at that thing, it's like, well, it's not him!

• 1:12:17Mark Normand?

  Ew!

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  The problem isn't him, but everyone thinks you're an asshole. That's a hell gig. Yeah, it was a hell gig, but no one knows. Yeah. But I remember you were there. And you didn't post about it.

• 1:12:28Mark Normand?

  No, no.

• 1:12:29Speaker 01

  And also, you're one of the most bulletproof guys I know.

• 1:12:32Mark Normand?

  They weren't even listening.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  You are, you're almost psychopathic in that you feel nothing. You can bomb for one hour, and feel nothing.

• 1:12:40Mark Normand?

  What are you kidding? I'd like, that would kill me!

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  No, no, you've done it before. No, I disagree with that.

• 1:12:44Mark Normand?

  I've done it a bunch.

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  He, when he bombs, he's a wreck.

• 1:12:46Mark Normand?

  I'm a mess after a bomb.

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:12:48Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  But you will... We all are, come on, it feels horrible. We all are, but he is, he'll walk out of the hour of bombing and be like, alright, well... I would argue that's the only time he does feel.

• 1:12:59Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes, that's better. Oh, I'm a wreck.

• 1:13:02Speaker 01

  But you'll take bad gigs all the time.

• 1:13:04Mark Normand?

  All the time. Because I want to see if I can get them.

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, so how can you say that you're, that you're not...

• 1:13:11Mark Normand?

  I do the pain in the shadows, I just don't let you see.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:13:13Mark Normand?

  It's called stoicism.

• 1:13:16Mark Normand?

  You, you get hurt, you don't let other people see it.

• 1:13:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, you either, it's either stoicism, or you become a serial killer.

• 1:13:22Mark Normand?

  Or that, I'm bombing, or I hit my wife, it's gotta come out somewhere.

• 1:13:25Speaker 01

  So you, so you, um, but you'll do it, you know, so he's...

• 1:13:29Mark Normand?

  I'll do it.

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  In that sense, he's bulletproof. Yeah.

• 1:13:32Mark Normand?

  Ah, I still feel the bullets. But I won't die.

• 1:13:36Speaker 01

  You're like Wolverine.

• 1:13:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 1:13:37Speaker 01

  You heal up. You heal up quickly.

• 1:13:39Mark Normand?

  That's it.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  You heal up quickly.

• 1:13:40Mark Normand?

  Alright, I'll take it.

• 1:13:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Mark Normand?

  But yeah, that was a hell of a gig. It was such a bad gig that our friend Scott Rogowski went up to me. He was in the, he was in the front of the stage and he went, and took a selfie of me bombing with him in it. That's how little the audience gave a shit about my feelings. Yeah, he texts me, he goes, Norman's here. He's bombing so hard.

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  How long did you have to do?

• 1:13:59Mark Normand?

  I was supposed to do 10, I did 8 and they cut it. The guy on the side was like...

• 1:14:03Speaker 01

  But what are you doing? You're just warming up, right?

• 1:14:05Mark Normand?

  Just warming up, just doing some zings, some zangs. I, I saw J Lo and she went, "Ooh." Cause she was like, "Don't talk to me. Don't, don't bring me to ear bullshit." Damn. Yeah, I did a zing on Ariana Grande. I think she flipped me off. I mean, it was bad. It was really bad.

• 1:14:20Mark Normand?

  I talked about it on, uh, Opium Gym years ago. It was like a 10 minute story, but yeah.

• 1:14:24Speaker 01

  Wait, no, this was, but, but this was like, in the last 10 years.

• 1:14:27Mark Normand?

  This is years ago.

• 1:14:28Speaker 01

  Last 10 years, though.

• 1:14:29Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's probably like 2013 or 14.

• 1:14:32Speaker 01

  No, no, it was after 15. It was after 15.

• 1:14:33Mark Normand?

  I don't know, was it?

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  It was after I came to America.

• 1:14:36Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  This bombing was so famous, I heard about it. As soon as I got to America, I heard about this.

• 1:14:41Mark Normand?

  Oh shit, alright. There was 9/11, then you, at the... Yes, yes. 9/11 was better. But yeah.

• 1:14:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, but we've all bombed like that. That's just, you know.

• 1:14:50Mark Normand?

  At least they had help. They had, they had a fucking fireman coming in. I could've used a fireman, just throw me over his shoulder and get me out of there.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  This is the other thing about comedy, not to wax poetic, but, but, uh, the thing is that at these Hollywood things, comics, we don't get awarded, which we shouldn't. We're countercultural figures who make fun of institutions, so we shouldn't. I, I'm fine, what, at the back of the bus, making fun of people?

• 1:15:14Mark Normand?

  Love that.

• 1:15:15Speaker 01

  That's fine. But the fact remains that, all that shit, when you go to award shows, the warm-up comic is a stand-up comic. The writers of the show are comics. The host is a comic.

• 1:15:27Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  The showrunner is probably a former, if not current, comic.

• 1:15:31Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:15:31Speaker 01

  So comedy is making all that shit run.

• 1:15:34Mark Normand?

  The homeless guy outside the venue.

• 1:15:35Speaker 01

  It was a comic.

• 1:15:36Mark Normand?

  Comic, yeah.

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  Everyone is a comic.

• 1:15:38Mark Normand?

  Everyone's a comic.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, that whole thing, that whole machine, we are the things that lubricate.

• 1:15:45Mark Normand?

  Great point.

• 1:15:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, so.

• 1:15:47Sam Morril?

  We're the KY jelly to their penis.

• 1:15:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:49Mark Normand?

  And we win no awards at that thing either.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  No, and.

• 1:15:52Sam Morril?

  But you know what? We wouldn't be having such a smooth ride without the KY.

• 1:15:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:56Mark Normand?

  You're here. Yeah.

• 1:15:59Speaker 01

  There you go. So, you bombing is a essential, you took the bullet on that thing.

• 1:16:03Sam Morril?

  And that's a better story than you kidding.

• 1:16:05Mark Normand?

  That's true, that's true.

• 1:16:06Sam Morril?

  Meanwhile, he would have been on a rocket ship. Some guys are, this is, this guy should take over Fallon.

• 1:16:12Mark Normand?

  Kid's got it. Yeah, no, no, thank you. They hated.

• 1:16:15Sam Morril?

  No, no, no, it's a better story, dude.

• 1:16:16Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:16:17Sam Morril?

  Right, right.

• 1:16:18Mark Normand?

  But I wish I didn't bring the girl I was dating.

• 1:16:20Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 1:16:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah, she left with Pete Davidson.

• 1:16:25Sam Morril?

  She went to a Diddy party.

• 1:16:27Mark Normand?

  I wanted to go to that party.

• 1:16:28Sam Morril?

  Speaking of KY jelly, alright. I'll tell you, you're alright.

• 1:16:32Speaker 01

  Why, why did you bring the girl?

• 1:16:34Mark Normand?

  I was, I thought it was cool. Was it Radio City? I was in the green room?

• 1:16:37Speaker 01

  That's your fault. You should have known better.

• 1:16:38Mark Normand?

  I got a black limo taking me up there. I was like, come on, baby, I'm the big time. And then.

• 1:16:44Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 1:16:44Mark Normand?

  Yeah, there was 9/11, I was the Pentagon. I got hit too.

• 1:16:49Speaker 01

  What was it? What was the gig? What was it again?

• 1:16:52Mark Normand?

  It was warm up for the MTV Music Awards. So it was all kids. It was like hot, young teens, you know, dressed to the nines. They're all hip.

• 1:17:00Speaker 01

  They pay you?

• 1:17:01Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:17:02Sam Morril?

  I remember Dane Cook did that, did like a segment on that show at the peak of his popularity and he bombed.

• 1:17:07Mark Normand?

  He bombed.

• 1:17:08Sam Morril?

  So it just sho, it's a hell gig.

• 1:17:10Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:17:10Sam Morril?

  You're not, you're not.

• 1:17:11Speaker 01

  Isn't that irritating that people, they put you in these positions where you can't win?

• 1:17:17Mark Normand?

  I know. They don't know though. They don't even know what they're putting us up for.

• 1:17:20Speaker 01

  They don't know, but I think what's worse is they don't care.

• 1:17:23Mark Normand?

  They definitely don't care.

• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? They, if they cared and it messed up, I'm like, at least you guys were trying to win.

• 1:17:30Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  At least win. Most of the time, they don't care. They plug you in like it's music.

• 1:17:34Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:35Speaker 01

  Just go in there and, you know, fluorescent lights and hey, you can just sing right here acoustic, just go.

• 1:17:40Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:17:40Speaker 01

  Dude, we need context.

• 1:17:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah, we need interaction, laughter.

• 1:17:44Speaker 01

  We need to listen. We can't, you know, you can't just throw us on like it's Metallica.

• 1:17:47Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:17:49Mark Normand?

  You're right, you're right, that's true.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  So that's what's irritating to me is when the producers don't care. And we get this all the time, like, local producers, they're not even professional producers. There are people who are like, hey, I wanna do a charity show to raise money. What can I do to raise money? Oh, I know, I'll get comics.

• 1:18:09Mark Normand?

  Yep.

• 1:18:09Speaker 01

  Let me get some comics and get some charity people and then we'll just raise money, everybody will win. And then they put on a horrible gig, the sound isn't right, they'll put on the sick person before you. Everyone's crying, you gotta follow the person with cancer.

• 1:18:23Mark Normand?

  Yep.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  And they're like, this is comedy, right? And then you look like shit.

• 1:18:26Mark Normand?

  Yep.

• 1:18:26Speaker 01

  And they're like, oh, that comic sucked.

• 1:18:29Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  I hate that, I hate, that's my pet peeve.

• 1:18:31Mark Normand?

  And then they're mad at you, like, what happened out there? I'm like, I did my act, you didn't set me up, you put me in the outdoors with a fucking Fisher Price mic.

• 1:18:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you're like, hey, I did this 50 times, it worked every time.

• 1:18:42Mark Normand?

  Yes!

• 1:18:42Speaker 01

  It worked this time, so...

• 1:18:43Mark Normand?

  That's you.

• 1:18:44Speaker 01

  I'm not the variable here, I mean...

• 1:18:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:46Sam Morril?

  You're up there like, what is this, a cancer benefit? They're like, yes!

• 1:18:49Speaker 01

  Yes, it is! It's tough, it's a tough thing, and they don't know... So, anyway, my point is that, unlike you, I've learned to say no to that. But you, you're like, no, I can get these guys.

• 1:19:00Mark Normand?

  I can get these guys.

• 1:19:01Sam Morril?

  I'm like, marketing that way, I pretty much, if I get the offer, I'll pretty much do it.

• 1:19:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:19:05Mark Normand?

  And the money's pretty good, usually.

• 1:19:06Speaker 01

  You guys are true, I mean, I've done that before, you know, with corporates. But you guys take it to the next level of, I will challenge myself. And I'm not scared of bombing, and, uh, I don't know, that's...

• 1:19:20Sam Morril?

  Well, your stand-up's great, man, I mean, you put out killer specials, truly, I mean, uh...

• 1:19:25Mark Normand?

  One of the best.

• 1:19:26Sam Morril?

  Man, remember how much fun we had on that gig, Comics Come Home in Boston?

• 1:19:29Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, it was great, yeah.

• 1:19:30Sam Morril?

  Literally, he had to switch trains.

• 1:19:33Mark Normand?

  Oh, I heard about this.

• 1:19:34Sam Morril?

  Was it your train that ran over the person, or my train?

• 1:19:36Speaker 01

  One of them.

• 1:19:37Sam Morril?

  One of our trains ran over a person, and I'm texting Ronnie, I'm like, are you on that train that ran someone over? And he's like, yeah. And the ticket guy is like, comes over to me and he's like, hey, man, uh, I know you're doing the show tonight. And I said, you know Ronnie Chang? And he's like, yeah, I'm like, he's coming on the train, any chance you can get him on this train?

• 1:19:52Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah!

• 1:19:52Sam Morril?

  Yeah, so we made sure we sat together, it was cool as fuck, we got him the tickets.

• 1:19:55Speaker 01

  And we sat next to each other.

• 1:19:57Sam Morril?

  And the guy's giving me like, heads up, every few minutes, he's like, uh, cause he recognized me, so he's like, hey, man, um... She was a, it was a suicide.

• 1:20:05Mark Normand?

  No.

• 1:20:06Sam Morril?

  I'm like, oh, thanks, thanks. Then he's like, uh, comes back a few minutes later. Said in Indian style. I'm like, I don't need all this. He keeps coming back, but then, but he was cool as fuck and he came to the show.

• 1:20:15Speaker 01

  He was very cool. He came to the show. He kept giving us too much information. Yeah, I was like, God, we don't need to. Can you just tell us when he's moving? That's all.

• 1:20:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's great.

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  Then we did a train to train. I don't know if you've ever seen this in America where it's train to train transfer. They put a ramp.

• 1:20:29Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:20:31Speaker 01

  You, you, like you're docking spaceship.

• 1:20:33Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  Just run across and then so I, man, I had to, yeah.

• 1:20:37Sam Morril?

  And then he emailed me at the end of the night. It was a sick lineup. It was, you know, Burl, these great comics on it. And he emailed me, man, that lady getting run over is the best thing that ever happened to me. Best show of my life. The one that started the convo without.

• 1:20:49Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:50Sam Morril?

  So, you know, sad story. Anyway.

• 1:20:52Speaker 01

  Anyway, it was.

• 1:20:52Mark Normand?

  But show was great.

• 1:20:53Sam Morril?

  Show was good. And then at the end of the night, I remember we just went into that hotel and it was like blasting. It was one of those hip hotel.

• 1:20:58Mark Normand?

  Oh, I hate.

• 1:20:59Sam Morril?

  Blasting music. We just looked at each other. We were exhausted. We went straight to the venue.

• 1:21:02Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:03Sam Morril?

  Just exhausted. We just looked at each other like.

• 1:21:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:05Mark Normand?

  Then you're like, let's go sit in front of a train.

• 1:21:09Mark Normand?

  Hey, so you got this? Any stand up stuff or are you just doing this for now?

• 1:21:12Speaker 01

  Just doing this.

• 1:21:13Mark Normand?

  Okay, great.

• 1:21:14Speaker 01

  I do, you know, I'm always doing spots around the city, but.

• 1:21:16Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:21:17Speaker 01

  This for now.

• 1:21:17Mark Normand?

  Oh, you guys are selling out too. Holy Hobby Center, Jesus. Fox Theater, that's a beauty.

• 1:21:24Sam Morril?

  Yeah. Ooh, these are, these are good, man.

• 1:21:25Speaker 01

  You know these places, right?

• 1:21:26Sam Morril?

  Seattle, Houston, Tampa, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Toronto.

• 1:21:33Mark Normand?

  Ooh, DAR, that's killer.

• 1:21:35Sam Morril?

  A lot of show in Toronto, man. The Asians are coming out, dude.

• 1:21:38Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:21:38Speaker 01

  Asians and Asians on this one, so.

• 1:21:40Sam Morril?

  Minneapolis, uh, Chicago. Oh, this is exciting. These are big, dude. Miami, Orlando, Austin.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  And I don't know, we, I don't get to, uh, you know, we, we often, this is a solo gig, right? I mean, you have openers, but you don't get to kind of hang out with all your friends and this is like a friend, you know? It's, it's cool. It's a cool hang, so.

• 1:21:59Mark Normand?

  Hell, yeah. That's great.

• 1:22:01Sam Morril?

  At the Beacon, that's a bunch of.

• 1:22:03Mark Normand?

  Woo, hey. Beacon, Wilbur.

• 1:22:05Sam Morril?

  Santiago, Chile.

• 1:22:06Mark Normand?

  Oh, what is shit?

• 1:22:07Sam Morril?

  No, San Diego.

• 1:22:08Mark Normand?

  Oh, oh, oh, scared me there.

• 1:22:10Sam Morril?

  Doing something about Mary. San Jose, man, you're everywhere. San Francisco, you're crushing it. Oh, the Masonics, the best.

• 1:22:17Speaker 01

  We're going OK.

• 1:22:17Sam Morril?

  Vancouver, amazing.

• 1:22:19Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:22:20Sam Morril?

  Queen Elizabeth, opened for Bob Saget there back in the day.

• 1:22:23Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:22:23Sam Morril?

  JP Saget, we were in that festival.

• 1:22:26Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:22:27Speaker 01

  I opened for Bob Saget, too, in Australia.

• 1:22:29Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 1:22:30Sam Morril?

  Good man.

• 1:22:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, good man, nicest guy.

• 1:22:31Sam Morril?

  Love this guy.

• 1:22:32Mark Normand?

  Sweet guy.

• 1:22:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, he messaged me a lot during Asian hate.

• 1:22:36Mark Normand?

  Well, there you go.

• 1:22:37Speaker 01

  He was an ally.

• 1:22:38Mark Normand?

  All right.

• 1:22:38Sam Morril?

  I'll be at the Venetian, September 19th, Rochester, New York, the 25th through the 27th, October 4th, the Chicago.

• 1:22:46Mark Normand?

  Oh, you're doing Chicago Theater, wow.

• 1:22:48Sam Morril?

  Love it, yeah.

• 1:22:48Mark Normand?

  Sam Morril.

• 1:22:49Sam Morril?

  Winnipeg, Canada, the next night, October 5th, and we're in Riyadh, Barcelona, Milan, Dublin, Liverpool, London, Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin.

• 1:22:59Mark Normand?

  Hey, I did this run last year. You've done it before, right?

• 1:23:02Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:02Mark Normand?

  This Europe run?

• 1:23:03Sam Morril?

  I love it.

• 1:23:03Mark Normand?

  It's great.

• 1:23:04Sam Morril?

  It's the best.

• 1:23:04Mark Normand?

  This guy's great, yeah.

• 1:23:05Sam Morril?

  It's the best. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna, second time this year at Wise Guys Comedy Club, I love it that much. November 14th through 16th, great club. Reno, Nevada, the 29th of November, and then Carnegie Hall, December 4th.

• 1:23:14Mark Normand?

  Oh, you're doing Carnegie Hall?

• 1:23:15Sam Morril?

  Yeah, baby.

• 1:23:16Mark Normand?

  Very exciting.

• 1:23:17Sam Morril?

  I've never done it, yeah.

• 1:23:19Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:23:19Speaker 01

  OK, a little echoey.

• 1:23:20Mark Normand?

  Little bit.

• 1:23:21Sam Morril?

  Is it?

• 1:23:21Speaker 01

  A little echoey.

• 1:23:22Mark Normand?

  Not the best sound in there, but you'll love it. The laughs are really, boom.

• 1:23:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, it'll be great, but see what they can do.

• 1:23:27Sam Morril?

  But I hear it's a great show, guys, so buy tickets.

• 1:23:29Speaker 01

  Show is great. A little echoey for, see if they can put like something to muffle the sound behind you or some.

• 1:23:34Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 1:23:34Speaker 01

  Something.

• 1:23:35Sam Morril?

  All right, we'll figure it out.

• 1:23:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. But you'll be, you'll be fine. It's not, it's not, it's not, um, it's not horrible.

• 1:23:42Mark Normand?

  No, it's not horrible. I am in Huntsville, Alabama, Hattiesburg, San Jose, Boulder, Colorado, we had a show. Come on by Riyadh, Athens, Oslo, Helsinki, Stockholm, Dublin at the Vicar.

• 1:23:55Speaker 01

  You're doing this Europe tour, too?

• 1:23:57Sam Morril?

  We're cooked.

• 1:23:57Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 1:23:59Speaker 01

  We're not doing it together.

• 1:24:00Sam Morril?

  Yeah, we're not, we're crossing, we're ships in the night.

• 1:24:02Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes. Uh, Valley Center, I believe that's a Harrah's, then I'm doing McGooey's, 'cause I'll have to write a new hour. And then, uh, the DC, Lincoln Theater, Rochester, Niagara, San Diego. Come on out, say hello, get yourself a bottle of Bodega Cat.

• 1:24:20Sam Morril?

  Punchup.live slash Mark Norman, punchup.live slash Sam Morril.

• 1:24:23Speaker 01

  You guys own Punch Up?

• 1:24:24Mark Normand?

  You might believe it.

• 1:24:25Speaker 01

  I love the idea of it.

• 1:24:27Mark Normand?

  You should do it.

• 1:24:28Speaker 01

  I should do it. I'm doing OK with, like, on the main stuff right now, but I should.

• 1:24:32Mark Normand?

  OK.

• 1:24:32Sam Morril?

  Yeah, it's good.

• 1:24:33Mark Normand?

  You never know it.

• 1:24:34Sam Morril?

  Get some emails.

• 1:24:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, no, I love what Punch Up is doing, so.

• 1:24:37Sam Morril?

  I love it. We'll buy some Bodega Cat Whiskey, bodeagercatwhiskey.com. See Ronnie on tour. Watch all of his multiple Netflix specials. Great comic, if you haven't seen it.

• 1:24:46Mark Normand?

  Yes, killer.

• 1:24:47Sam Morril?

  We love you guys.

• 1:24:48Mark Normand?

  Check him on The Daily Show.

• 1:24:49Sam Morril?

  See you next week.

• 1:24:50Mark Normand?

  Queef it up, comedy.

• 1:25:38Speaker 03

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