Trump CONFIRMS Alaska Meeting, Cuomo EXPOSES Mamdani & Vance's Epstein STUNNER | PBD Podcast | Ep. 627

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Trump confirming his high-stakes Alaska meeting with Putin, Andrew Cuomo calling out Zohran Mamdani’s hypocrisy, and J. D. Vance’s new Epstein revelations that could reignite calls for a full disclosure. ------ 🤵GET A FREE LEATHER KEYCHAIN W/ ANY ORDER IN THE GENTLEMAN'S COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4loUkMN 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 1:08Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one? My son's right there.

• 1:18Speaker 02

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:25Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Episode 627. First time we're going Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We're going to test this out, folks. I think we're earlier than many of you today, which is great. Fathers, I'm going to read something to you today at the beginning of the podcast before we get into the stories that I think you need to hear specifically to fathers and mothers. You can listen up to, but specific to fathers, we'll get into that. Adam, Vinnie, Tom, great to be with you guys. Hope you had a good weekend. Hello, hello. Let's get into some of the stories that we got. I think there's something going on in Alaska right now. And that is a meeting. Rob, when is that meeting supposed to be, by the way? Friday. Friday that's going to be taking place with Putin, Trump, and possibly a guy that doesn't like suits. And we don't know whether that guy's going to show up or not.

• 2:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I think the meeting doesn't make sense without him, to negotiate without him. But if I'm Putin, I probably don't want him to be there because of the way he handled himself. At the White House, and if he handles himself that way in the White House, what's he capable of doing in front of Putin? And Putin doesn't like things like that. So we'll see if that's gonna happen or not. But, uh, major, major victory for Armenia and Azerbaijan. Trump embraces a role of peacemaker in Azerbaijan and Armenia deal. Andrew Cuomo calls on socialist Zoran Mamdani, they got it, Rob, they, they, there's a correction here. It says calls on socialist, that's a communist. He wants to seize. Did you write that? Was it supposed to be, I just wanna make sure we get it right. Didn't he say seize of?

• 2:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Means of production, sir, the means of production. I would be offended if I mean, why would you ever call me a socialist if I'm a communist? He's probably upset that they titled it that way. So let me, let me read it again. Andrew Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo, calls on communist Zoran Mamdani to move out of his rent stabilized apartment. Donald Trump confirms Putin's flying out. Florida Attorney General proposes legislation to stop sexual predators from pursuing surrogacy, adoption and foster care. Rob, I don't know if you saw that story about a family in LA that had 21 kids in surrogacy, and they kept saying it's gonna be going to a family, but they kept it, and they got caught. If you wanna pull up that story, uh, disturbing story. Trump puts 50 million bounty

• 3:37Patrick Bet-David?

  on Venezuelan president for helping terrorists bring deadly violence to US. Trump spectacularly ousted the head of the IRS and puts in one of his closest lawyers. Uh, Trump confirms the Putin meeting. Putin reportedly willing to end war if he gets eastern Ukraine. And then at the same time, Xi tells Putin, he's kinda glad he's seen an attempt at improving ties with the US. Mexico rejects US forces in the country. Trump approves military actions against cartel terrorist organizations. So Trump's trying to help clean up the streets of Mexico, and the president there says, no, no, no, we like our cartel, leave them alone. I mean, we'll get maybe into the story a little bit more. This is another reason

• 4:20Patrick Bet-David?

  why New York City is just crushing it. You ready for this? New York City is spending $65 million on homeless shelter for who? Specific transgender people. Let me say it one more time. New York City is spending $65 million on homeless shelter, not for homeless people, just specifically for transgenders, okay? Transgender homeless people? Transgender homeless people. Princeton eliminates tuition for families making $250 a year. I think that's Princeton's way of saying, please don't find us. Exactly. Socialist mineral candidate Mamdani claims he will be Trump's worst nightmare. And hires private security after calling to defend the police. Uh, this other stories- Defund the police, sir. What did I say? He's not defending the police.

• 5:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Defund the police. That's my English. It's defund the police. How scrubbing your social media could backfire and even hurt your job prospects. Besen says market expects Fed to cut rates this year substantial probability. Uh, and a couple Epstein stories we may get into. J D Vance wants to get a little bit to the bottom of the Epstein story. I found another video of Michael Cohen talking about Epstein and Trump. Furious Rosie O'Donnell says ABC is preparing to cancel her old show, The View, and she's devastated by it. Uh, WNBA bets on sex toy ta- uh, stunts at the WNBA games fuel poly market critics. So people are now betting saying if it's gonna be thrown in or not? Yes. I mean, that's just some wild stuff. Now I wanna watch. I'm gonna take the over on that one. Are you willing to go to a game?

• 5:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I, yes, and I might bring a backpack. Al Jazeera journalist Anas Al Sharif killed in Israel attack in Gaza city. White House is considering inviting Zelensky. Jennifer Walsh has had it with Trump supporters who eat at Indian restaurants. Take your ass to Cracker Barrel. That's the Hindustan Times. Jimmy Kimmel admits repulsive liberal schools are driving people away from the Democratic Party. Oh, Jimmy, not him. I think it's something else. I think it's something else and I'll talk about it and I'm sure you got a lot of stuff to say about it. As a comedian whistleblower drops bombshell did Bill Barr and Fannie Willis team up to sabotage Trump's comeback? And Texas prison camp where Jalen Maxwell was moved?

• 6:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Steps up security. All right, so we got a lot of stuff to go through Monday morning. If you're tuning in with us. We're gonna see how this is gonna go and if we're gonna keep it this way. We'll test it for a couple of weeks. And then we'll make a decision from there. Gang, the gentleman's series VT merch. Let me tell you. The ties that you ask for black ties. This is 100% silk with the value taming logo. Is on it with the pocket square tie. We have them in black and blue. Absolutely sharp, you know, incredible quality. It's not the thin, you know, shiny quality. It's great quality. Uh, the ties that are here and the other one is this is limited edition 100% leather. Value taming bag that's out here leather short shoulder tote bag.

• 7:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That's here to feel the quality on how the leather leather feels, by the way. Feel like Vance White right here. This feels great. And by the way, the VT logos are there. Adam knows about leather. And then when you open it up, when you open it up inside of it. You will see future looks bright right here. Sick, absolutely sick. And by the way, the other day, Michael Beasley was doing a podcast. We're now seeing people actually. Weren't a weren't a future looks bright hat all over the place. Michael Beasley's doing a podcast. Player number two pick of the draft many years ago by the Miami Heat. I can't wait to see millions on top of millions. I get so many people on X who are posting pictures while they watch this podcast. And they'll tell me how they're watching the podcast, but they'll say, man, look at my future looks bright hat. Look at my future looks bright gear.

• 8:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Love seeing the support. More importantly, we need to convert more people. That are coming here. We were just in LA this last weekend. Uh, for what do you call it? That show that happens? We won't post any of the pictures. You know, the guy that sits in the middle? Jubilee Jubilee. Grill you. I was in the middle with 20 anti capitalists. It was epic. It was fire and it'll be released in the next four to six week. Six weeks. Cannot wait to have you guys see it, but the whole premise is we need more people thinking the future looks bright. Instead of being victims and you know, it's not fair. I'm not happy about what's gonna happen. I'm so scared about the future. So if you support that as well. Go to VT merch.com place your order. So let's get into it. Fathers, I want to read something to you. I want to read something to you.

• 8:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I think sometimes we don't give fathers enough credit in what they deal with. Last night, you know, I had a conversation with a couple of fathers last couple of days. I came back from the event last year at the event that we had and, you know, nearly 8,000 something people in the room. Incredible event. Ray Lewis was there, Coach K was there. Jabobakis put on a performance and all these stories about fathers, right? All these stories about fathers and what's going on. And I wanted to read something to you.

• 9:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And fathers, mothers, listen to it, whatever way you want to listen to it. Statistically, you know, it's easy to always put every blame on men and put it on my fathers. You see stats about Titanic. I don't know if you guys saw the Titanic stats. One of the most interesting stats about Titanic. You know what it is? 75% of men on the Titanic were the ones, uh, uh, uh, 20% of men, uh, uh, survived only, and 75% of women survived. So the Titanic's going down, 75% of women on the Titanic survived. Only about 20% of men survived. We automatically know our role. My job is to protect you. You know your role. Your job is to protect Kim, Brooke and Bailey.

• 10:00Patrick Bet-David?

  We know our role, what role we played. You had an event that happened yesterday. You know the role you got to play with your mom today. And, uh, you know, my condolences goes out to you as well with what's going on there. Yes, sir. It, it, as men, we have this burden, this responsibility. But fathers, I want to read this to you. Put a quote yesterday on Twitter, Rob, if you want to go to it, if you don't mind. Um, I read this, I'm like, you know, what a powerful, what a powerful statement. One of the toughest things about being a father is when you realize you're raising the ones you can't live without to live without you. Let me say that one more time, because sometimes you have to hear this twice.

• 10:41Patrick Bet-David?

  One of the toughest things about being a father is when you realize you're raising the ones you can't live without to live without you. Wow. You're teaching these guys to learn how to live without you, even though your favorite moment in life was when they're around you. There's nothing like it. It's magical for you to do that. So let me read this to you.

• 11:02Patrick Bet-David?

  A dad can lose friends. He can be misunderstood by his own family. He can carry the weight of criticism and still sleep just fine at night. You know why? Because his mission isn't to be liked by the crowd. His mission is to be respected, trusted, and loved by the only audience that matters, his children. One day, those kids will look back and realize why dad said no when everyone else said yes. Why he stood his ground when it would have been easier to bend. Why he took the long road even when the short one looked tempting. A father doesn't measure success by applause. He measures it by the way his children see him when the world is quiet.

• 11:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And by whether they know without a shadow of doubt, that's my dad and I'm proud he's mine. There's nothing like that, folks. If your father listening to this and you're doing everything in your power to raise great kids in the future, those of you guys that go above and beyond, you know who you are. And a lot of our listeners, this is something you take very seriously or else you wouldn't watch this podcast. Because if you're somebody that's not important to you, you'd be very annoyed listening to us. We would actually be very annoying to people that are not trying to be the best fathers to their kids. But for those of you guys that are doing your best, I want to start off the week by telling you, you matter, you're important, keep doing what you're doing. The future of America and the world is safer because of men like you.

• 12:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, society, taxes, economy, prisons, crime, all of it. You're very important and sometimes we just need to hear it. This message goes to two or three men that I spoke to over the weekend. You know who you are. I just wanted to kind of give that shout out to you guys before we get the podcast started. Keep leading the way, no matter how challenging and annoying things may be. And even though nobody knows the whole story, we know the story. Having said that, let's get right into it. First story I want to get into, Rob, I think it's the Russia story, right? With Alaska, which is where, you know, Trump and Putin have a meeting.

• 13:04Patrick Bet-David?

  This Friday that's coming up. So Donald Trump confirms Putin is flying into US soil for showdown meeting. And again, that is this Friday in Alaska. Let me read this to you and then we're gonna go to the video, okay? So, uh, this is page nine, but I don't see it on page nine. Let me see this here. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Donald Trump confirms, Rob, and here it says...

• 13:31Speaker 04

  Try page five, Pat.

• 13:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, no, and here on the notes, it says page nine. Oh, it's not five. Rob, do you know what page that's on?

• 13:40Speaker 05

  Page four. Donald Trump confirms Putin is flying to US soil for showdown meeting.

• 13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, do you see it where it says nine? Look at the notes at the top, it says nine. I don't know if you see that or not, but I'll just read it. Um, President Trump announced on Truth Social that he'll meet Russian President Vladimir Putin on the 15th in Alaska, stating the highly anticipated meeting between myself and President of, uh, myself, uh, as the President of the United States and Vladimir Putin of Russia will take place next Friday, August 15th, in the great state of Alaska. Trump told reporters, "The war between Ukraine and Russia lasting three and a half years is complicated." Rob, if this is the clip, go ahead and play this clip.

• 14:18Speaker 06

  Does Putin have to meet with Zelensky in order and before you and Putin have to meet?

• 14:24Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 14:25Speaker 07

  So you're willing to, that's actually important because the President, President Putin said this morning, he was pretty dismissive of this idea of meeting with President Putin.

• 14:32Speaker 04

  Who was?

• 14:33Speaker 07

  President Putin was.

• 14:34Speaker 04

  I don't know, I didn't hear him.

• 14:35Speaker 07

  If you were to meet with him, he doesn't have the courage to meet with Zelensky, is that what you're saying?

• 14:38Speaker 04

  No, he doesn't. No, no.

• 14:40Speaker 07

  So when do you think that means?

• 14:41Speaker 04

  They would like to meet with me and I'll do whatever I can to stop the killing. So, uh, last month, they lost, uh, 14,000 people killed last month. Every week is four or 5,000 people. Uh, so I don't like, uh, long waits. I think it's a shame. And they're mostly soldiers, they're Ukrainian and Russian soldiers, and some people from the cities where, you know, missiles are lobbed in and you'll lose 35, 40 people a night, which is terrible. But no, mostly it's soldiers, uh, and you're talking about...

• 15:16Speaker 04

  On average, 20,000 a month. 20,000 people are dying a month, young, generally young people, soldiers.

• 15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so this was supposed to be the president of war, so this sounds like the president of peace, but they invited Zelensky, okay, just to kind of give you a little bit more context. They're thinking about inviting Zelensky to the summit, okay? It's being discussed, and another saying it's absolutely possible. Adding, "Everyone is very hopeful that would happen," a senior White House official clarified. "The president remains open to a trilateral summit with both leaders." Right now, the White House is focusing on planning the bilateral meeting requested by Putin without Zelensky being there, and at the same time, Xi says to, is this the clip of him, by the way?

• 16:02Speaker 05

  Yes, the translation's just a little off. We used AI to translate it, but this is Zelensky saying that Ukraine would not surrender territory.

• 16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what's important. So, if you want to play this clip, Rob, because this is the part that matters. Go ahead.

• 16:15Speaker 08

  The Ukrainian territorial issue is already in the constitution of Ukraine. Nobody will be able to deviate from this. Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupant. Ukraine is ready for real decisions that can give peace. Bhuddi Krishni, who are against us. Buddha Krishni, who without Ukraine, they are once against us. Oh, one give nothing, it's dead, Rishneen. They will never work, and we all need a real living peace here, which people will respect.

• 16:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so when you hear that, then you hear the response Putin reportedly willing to end the war if he gets eastern Ukraine, and Zelensky flat out telling you, "I'm not interested." Here's Putin.

• 16:54Speaker 08

  In our conditions, to start such a conversation, simple and come down to the following. Ukrainian troops must be completely withdrawn from Donetsk, Lugansk, Peoples' Republics, Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions. And I draw attention precisely from the entire territory of these regions, the limits of their administrative borders, which existed at the time of their driving in Ukraine. As soon as Imkayev, they declare that she is ready for such.

• 17:20Speaker 09

  The resolution will begin the real conclusions of the troops from these regions, as well as officially notified of the rejection of plans to enter in NATO on our part immediately, literally in the same. A minute will follow the order to cease the fire and begin the negotiation. I repeat, we will do it immediately. Naturally, at the same time, we guarantee an irresistible and safe discharge of Ukrainian units and formations. Of course, we would like to count on what a decision is and about the withdrawal of troops and about outside the bloc status. And he began dialogue with Russia from which to declare from the future existence of Ukraine and Kyiv will be accepted.

• 17:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there, yeah. Okay, so Tom, what do you think is gonna happen here on Friday? You think Zelensky is gonna show up? You think he's not gonna show up? You think Zelensky is gonna eventually give eastern Ukraine? What do you think is gonna end up happening?

• 18:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Zelensky has to show up and he's playing a little bit of a game now, but the advisors and people that are around Zelensky are like, hey, this is, this is serious. You need to go to this and you need to go to the table. And what Russia is asking for is, you know, is basically the Russian-speaking region of Ukraine that long ago was part of Russia. Now you can make your own conclusion about where you say, well, you're not, you don't bully yourself back into it, but also there was, you know, the, it was triggered because of the threat to enter, you know, NATO after being told they weren't. So I, I think Zelensky, for all the reasons, for the NATO reason, for the territory reason

• 18:52Tom Ellsworth?

  and for the war reason, he can't not show up. I think if he doesn't show up, it's just like a really bad look. So you wanna continue this war? You're not gonna show up? You're trying to have a, a peace? And the peace treaties like this, this is how they happen on neutral soil with a intermediary.

• 19:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do this, Tom? Can I ask you a question? So, so argue with, let's play a game, okay? Argue it from Zelensky's standpoint. This goes to everybody. Argue it from Zelensky's standpoint of, you know, what do you mean, give up eastern Ukraine? I don't have to show up. I, you know, if you, you guys wanna do this without me, you can negotiate. Argue it from his standpoint.

• 19:25Tom Ellsworth?

  If I'm gonna show up and all you're gonna tell me is I gotta get back Dornbas and all that historical part of Ukraine that speaks Russian, I didn't draw the line. The line was drawn by the international community decades ago, and then you bullied your way across the line. You can tell me that you thought we were gonna join NATO and it pissed you off, but you bullied yourself all across the line. And, you know, the US, Biden, basically winked at you and said if it was a small incursion, he wouldn't go after you. So the US kinda winked. President Biden kinda winked and got this thing started. And now you want me to come sit in front of a US president with Putin and Putin saying he wants land

• 20:09Tom Ellsworth?

  given back? You want me to go sit for that?

• 20:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And that was great. Would you add anything to the Ukraine-Zelensky argument?

• 20:14Speaker 11

  No, because he made a great point. That's one of the main ones. I would've said, listen, the previous president said, "It's okay if Russia comes in and does a small attack, a small incursion." So you guys asked it.

• 20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So now flip it, Vinny, to you. Be Putin. Give Putin's argument. Yeah, listen, I'm willing to come and, you know, do you want him there? Do you not want him there? Oh, play Putin.

• 20:34Speaker 11

  I want him there because at the end of the day, I told all of you, "Don't, what was it? One inch of NATO? I don't want any expansion." Biden, the previous president, told us that we could come in and told us that we could attack. You guys gave us the green light, so we're doing it. Time and time again, this guy is showing that he has zero respect. Okay, he comes into the White House, he disrespects all of you. I want peace. I was told you guys not to push. You guys push, I'm just sticking up for my people. That's it.

• 21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, where are you at?

• 21:03Adam Sosnick?

  So, playing Putin and playing Zelensky, every war in the world comes down to two things. Whose land is it? And what is the identity of the people that want the land? So, if you're Russia, the land that you're fighting for, you believe is Russian land and Russian identity. If I'm Putin, there's a couple of things that I'm majorly concerned about. Number one and first and foremost is NATO encroaching east and east and east and east. He wants "nyet" of this. They also want sanctions removed. Don't forget about it. Economic sanctions are a major part of this. Selling their Russian oil, everything that's going on around the world, oligarchs.

• 21:47Tom Ellsworth?

  After they fix the pipelines.

• 21:48Adam Sosnick?

  That's true. The Nord Stream 2. And then obviously territory. As far as Zelensky goes...

• 21:54Adam Sosnick?

  He wants first and foremost a cessation of aggression. Stop bombing our land. Stop trying to take our land. We'll debate whose land that is. He also wants security guarantees. So when this war eventually does stop, Putin stops attacking. You know, you talked about NATO and GDP. It's always been 2%. There's countries like Poland and other countries that are closer to the border who are saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're gonna give four, we're gonna give 5% in many cases. Putin is the bully here, let's be clear. And Zelensky, as weak as he seems, his major messages, leave us alone. We'll see what happens.

• 22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so essentially, if I'm Putin, they're talking about, do you think Trump would want Putin and Zelensky in the same room? Or do you think Trump would want just an isolated bilateral meeting with Putin? And then a isolated bilateral meeting with Zelensky?

• 22:48Adam Sosnick?

  I think at this point, let's take what we can get. I think the world, in the reality TV show that we're all living in, would love to see Trump in the middle.

• 22:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I totally get what you're saying.

• 22:57Adam Sosnick?

  And Putin and Zelensky there.

• 22:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not what I ask. Let's take what we can get, I get. What would Trump prefer? Would he prefer both in the room? Or does he not want Zelensky to disrupt the meeting? So he can just have a meeting with Putin?

• 23:11Adam Sosnick?

  Think about it, if you're doing a negotiation, if you were, if Vinnie and I were fighting, which we always do.

• 23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I love you.

• 23:17Adam Sosnick?

  Would you want to have a conversation with Vinnie first? Would you rather have a conversation with Adam first? Or would you want us both there? I don't know the right or wrong reasons. You've dealt with many of these things.

• 23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  If I, let's just say, let's go a little bit deeper there. Let's just say, the last time I tried to have a meeting with you publicly, you took advantage of the limelight and the camera, and you embarrassed me and my company. That's what you did last time. In front of my entire company, you embarrassed me, right? Let's just say, that was the case. Does Trump still want both people to be there? Does Trump just want Putin to be there? You know what I'm asking?

• 23:51Adam Sosnick?

  More than likely, he wants Putin there for sure.

• 23:54Tom Ellsworth?

  He wants Putin there.

• 23:55Adam Sosnick?

  Meaning if Zelensky's there, a little bonus, but he wants a one-on-one with Putin.

• 24:00Speaker 11

  I think where Trump is, especially after all that, I would want them, obviously, they're gonna have their handlers or whatever, and their people, their security, and just be like, hey, listen, guys, enough is enough. You're doing what you're doing. We know with his attitude especially, and we know where you're at. Let's just end it. Just stop it. And then the negotiator, he has to have him in there. But seeing his attitude, going back to your initial question, Pat, I don't think he's gonna show up. I don't think, did you see Zelensky's interview there?

• 24:25Adam Sosnick?

  You don't think Putin's gonna show up?

• 24:27Speaker 11

  No, Zelensky. I have a feeling Zelensky's not gonna show up.

• 24:29Tom Ellsworth?

  If I'm Trump, I want them both in the room, but there's back-channeling going on. Look at Whitkoff, the White House announced, the White House announced that last Thursday, Friday, I believe, Whitkoff had highly productive meetings with Putin, that they said sealed the deal for him to come over here and to be part of a summit. And so, the back-channel is working, and if we don't think that there's also a back-channel to Zelensky right now, it's gotta be, it's like, hey, man, you're gonna look terrible, and this is gonna be a shraid. But if I'm, if I'm Trump, I want them both in the room, but I wanna make sure I'm back-channeling some rules of engagement.

• 25:03Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think, Pat? If they were negotiating this deal, how would you want this to play out?

• 25:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so let's go through one by one by one. If I'm Trump, I want everybody in the room. If I'm Zelensky, I want to be in the room, because I know I can get under the skin of both of them if I'm Zelensky. Zelensky, that is that guy that is gonna take advantage of this opportunity to make himself look good and try to embarrass both of them, and he knows how to get under Putin's skin. And by getting under Putin's skin and disrupting the meeting, he's indirectly going under Trump's skin, okay? And then Trump, behind closed doors, just did a minerals deal with Zelensky, which means if that got done, he almost has to, in that minerals deal, I'm assuming there was some kind of an exchange, that you can't increase tariffs on us for the next five years or three years.

• 25:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And I don't know the details of it, but whatever the minerals deal was, Ukraine would be dummies to negotiate a, what do you call it, a minerals deal, without a guaranteed you not increasing tariffs on me for at least five years. And the reason why I would negotiate five years is because I would want the tariffs deal to be after Trump is out, because I don't want somebody like Trump to be in president, so he can increase it. So in this place, believe it or not, Zelensky has a little bit of control. Because if he got that insurance, if he didn't, he's an idiot if they didn't. But so then you go to Russia, to Putin. He's the only one that I think just wants it to be him and Trump. I think Zelensky, Trump's the, Putin's the only one that doesn't want Zelensky to be there at all whatsoever. Cause he doesn't trust him.

• 26:36Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't trust him at all. He doesn't trust the fact that he's gonna be behaving. And in a strange, unique way. Zelensky here is the linchpin. Because he's the most unpredictable. You know what Trump's gonna do. You know what Putin's gonna do. You don't know what Zelensky's gonna do. So he's the disruptor in this instance. In my opinion. In my opinion. And who's asking, who has to give? Putin's asking, Zelensky has to give. He doesn't have to give. But in this case. You know. I don't know. I, I, those are the dynamics rising. Now if there's anybody that can broker a deal. Trump has to have some kind of a leverage behind closed doors.

• 27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That it could be as simple as allowing Putin to join NATO. If he allows Putin to join NATO, guess who doesn't want that? Ukraine doesn't want that. Zelensky doesn't want that. NATO doesn't want that. So imagine if he's coming out there playing aggressive saying, no. I know Bill Clinton or Bush, those guys said no to Putin about joining NATO. I'm actually gonna do, have him on NATO. So. I, I think there's an element of knowing Trump's capable of doing anything, but. He's gonna have to poke in the NATO way. I don't think he can poke with the tariff. Absolutely.

• 27:51Adam Sosnick?

  So one thing that we gotta think about, you know, you're always talking about. Who's in your ear? Who's in your ear?

• 27:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 27:56Adam Sosnick?

  Well, in a meeting like this, it's almost who's in your corner? So in Zelensky's corner, you have the EU, you have NATO, you have Poland, you sort of have the. Uh, the Eastern European states, you have the United States to a capacity. Uh, Western allies, Canada, and then who's in Russia's ear? Well, you have China. You have Iran, or what's left of what's going on in Iran. You have North Korea, you have Belarus, which is the only country in that region that is sort of full supporter of Russia. So they're gonna play a role in basically negotiations. Who these people in Putin's ear and in Zelensky's ear? And Zelensky, who's more of a puppet? Zelensky or Putin? Zelensky. You know, everyone's, "Trump is Putin's puppet."

• 28:40Adam Sosnick?

  I think nobody believes that at this point.

• 28:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Zelensky is a puppet to who, though?

• 28:43Adam Sosnick?

  Zelensky is a puppet to the world. And the Western allies of the world.

• 28:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Just so you know, in this instance, he's a puppet to nobody. In this, in this situation, he's not a puppet to anybody.

• 28:57Adam Sosnick?

  Why do you say that?

• 28:58Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not a puppet to Trump, or he's not a puppet to Putin.

• 29:00Adam Sosnick?

  Well, he's a puppet to his financial backers.

• 29:03Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a puppet to the establishment.

• 29:06Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And under Biden, yes, because they kept giving him stuff. In this instance, this is a very different scenario. Very different scenario.

• 29:16Speaker 11

  So, Pat, the warhawks, Pat, the Lindsey Gramps, the Mitch McConnells, the, the, what were the contractors? The, the weapons and all the, the defense contractors? They're all, you were talking about back-channeling. How many people are in his ear, Pat? Behind the scenes going, "Hey, you still want these billions? Don't you freak..." Because the goal is to what? Not have any, don't give in?

• 29:36Patrick Bet-David?

  People don't have control right now.

• 29:37Speaker 11

  No control. What I'm saying is, can they be in his ear?

• 29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna be. No, so here's, here's... What is, what is the likelihood? He's speaking to the establishment in the US government right now?

• 29:48Adam Sosnick?

  Pretty high, I think.

• 29:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 29:49Adam Sosnick?

  A hundred percent. And I think the key there is Starmer. Because remember, Starmer cut the deal that for every UK pound of aid, there was like another pound of debt. Remember, it was actually debt. And that's what the criticism came from. "You're not giving them aid. You're permanently indebted Ukraine to you when you're taking advantage of it because they're upset at the USA." I think there's a lot of people in the back there right now.

• 30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and, and listen, we can move on to the next story. The, the one thing people don't want on the left is the following. Trump sits down with Azerbaijan and Armenia and brokers a deal. Do you realize nobody thought this was possible? Just a couple of years ago on this podcast, we're talking about what's going on between Nagorno-Garabak and Artsakh and Armenia and Azerbaijan and Aliyev, and it's not pretty. And then this is what takes place. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Could you put some audio?

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• 31:47Patrick Bet-David?

  This is impossible.

• 31:48Speaker 14

  President of the Republic of Azerbaijan and the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia will now sign the joint declaration on the outcomes of the Trump Root for International Peace and Prosperity Summit.

• 31:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That's really beautiful.

• 31:58Speaker 14

  They will sign three copies in English. The President of the United States signs as a witness to the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan and the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia, affirming their path to peace, stability, and prosperity.

• 32:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Love that.

• 32:11Speaker 14

  We kindly ask that all guests remain seated for the signing of the documents.

• 32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I love that. I love that. Look, do you know how big of a deal this is while he's doing things like this? My mother's family is from Baku, okay? Baku, Azerbaijan. But they're Armenian, from Armenia, and, you know, they lived in Baku because there are a lot of Armenians living in Baku, Azerbaijan. For this to happen. Now, the question becomes... Is the media gonna give him the credit that he deserves? I don't know how many countries have now nominated him for a Nobel Peace Prize. I think it's eight is what the number is today. Can you verify that, Rob, if I'm correct or not? Eight countries have now nominated this guy for a Nobel Peace Prize. For actually creating peace, not just for being black and being a motivational speaker. I'm talking about actually, actually doing something that's getting him a Nobel Peace Prize.

• 32:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Tom, how much you think this is a big deal? Specifically that it happened a week before the meeting he's having with Russia and Ukraine? And Armenia and Azerbaijan are both directly and indirectly tied, both to Russia and to Ukraine?

• 33:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I think this is a giant deal all by itself. How many decades did we go where, you know, US governments wouldn't even acknowledge that there was a genocide in Armenia? How many decades did we go where US president wouldn't even say that? It was the Armenian-Turkish conflict. And now, sitting at the White House, we've got, you know, Armenia, Azerbaijan, sitting together doing this. This is historic, just by itself. It doesn't, the calendar doesn't matter. First, it's historic. However, it's so historic that coming in to what's happening in Alaska, it causes, I

• 33:56Tom Ellsworth?

  believe, the rest of the world to go, he's getting it done. He's getting people to the table, he's getting it done. And a week ago, he's Southeast Asian and says, you two little guys, knock that crap off, you don't want this. Our navy, our navy is everywhere in the South Pacific, you don't want us to come help. So you guys, knock it off, don't get into this. Just a week ago, he did that.

• 34:16Speaker 11

  And just to piggyback on what you said, Pat, kinda like under the radar, Barack Obama, do you guys know what he got a Nobel Peace Prize for? The definition? For his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. What the hell does that even mean? No meetings, no sit downs, no peace. Trump, on top of everything else, the tariffs, the border, economy, you name it, he's sitting down with them, he's scheduled to meet with these guys. On Friday, he's trying his hardest to fricking, you know, help with, uh, he's speaking up about fricking Gaza and Israel. Like, what, what more does he need to do? Give me, like, the Bloods and Crips, does he need to stop the Bloods and Crips from fighting to get something, you know what I mean, Adam? What else?

• 34:58Adam Sosnick?

  He may, he may do that, he's gonna send the National Guard to LA.

• 35:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So, by the way, here we go, Cambodia, Pakistan, Israel, Armenia, Azerbaijan nominated him for a Nobel Peace Prize. Adam, your thoughts on this before we move on?

• 35:10Speaker 11

  They got a beautiful picture, look at these guys holding these things up. Those documents are gonna be sitting like in the Smithsonian and in world museums. This is so huge.

• 35:20Adam Sosnick?

  Do you know how many presidents have won the Nobel Peace Prize? United States presidents, take a guess, how many, throw a number out real quick.

• 35:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Two.

• 35:27Adam Sosnick?

  Two? One?

• 35:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Four.

• 35:31Adam Sosnick?

  You're right, PBD, ding ding ding. The number is four. Teddy Roosevelt was the first one to win in 1906 for mediating the Russia-Japanese War. Woodrow Wilson, uh, 1919, he founded the League of Nations. There you go, thank you, Tom, that was after World War I.

• 35:48Speaker 11

  That's college.

• 35:48Adam Sosnick?

  Jimmy Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize 20 something years after he left office for his humanitarian work. But those are all tangible things. Like Vinnie mentioned, Barack Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize one year after his presidency for his efforts to strengthen international diplomacy. Nothing accomplished.

• 36:09Speaker 11

  For making a speech at the Brandenburg Gate of the Berlin Wall.

• 36:14Adam Sosnick?

  So, if we didn't think the Nobel Peace Prize was sort of like a cool kids' club, there's Exhibit A right there.

• 36:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think it's gonna happen?

• 36:21Adam Sosnick?

  You know what, I actually don't think it's gonna happen, and here's my guess. Trump's gonna go around for the next three years solving more international conflicts and ceasefires. We just went down the list, Azerbaijan and Armenia, the latest thing. But wouldn't it be great if Trump just solves the world's issues, world's peace, but that never gets credit for it? And then just says, "Look at the Nobel laureate Peace Prize over here." Sham, I'd rather you get stuff done than get a fake award.

• 36:48Speaker 11

  So this is about, just really fast, the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize committee is in Norwegian. Hate him like what?

• 36:55Adam Sosnick?

  Norwegia.

• 36:56Speaker 11

  What are they doing?

• 36:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, those Norwegians.

• 36:58Speaker 11

  Norwegian. Of Norwegia. Yeah, what are they doing? I that's.

• 37:01Adam Sosnick?

  I never know what they're doing out there.

• 37:03Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 37:04Adam Sosnick?

  I never know what you're doing out there.

• 37:05Patrick Bet-David?

  They got seven billion barrels of oil.

• 37:07Adam Sosnick?

  Ma, more peace deals.

• 37:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Seven billion barrels of oil.

• 37:10Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think, Pat? Do you think he's gonna win the Nobel Peace Prize?

• 37:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Win the Nobel Peace Prize.

• 37:14Adam Sosnick?

  Why do you, why are you so confident?

• 37:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Because, because he's gonna put sometimes in life. One of the most beautiful things about life is where I remember one time. An enemy of mine, old enemy of mine. And this guy played so many games. He would call insurance carriers to drop contracts on me. He would pay people to write negative things about me. And I knew it wasn't because those guys eventually became fans of mine because of entertainment. One day, I told him, I said, I'm gonna turn your kids into vaikiters. One day, his son has a school project that is going up to speak at school. About business and entrepreneurship. And his son goes in front of his class, he's 15 years old.

• 37:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And he says, I want to talk about Patrick B. David and what I've learned from him.

• 38:01Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 38:02Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, how we went from being enemies in his own way. To then you converting my son into becoming a fan of entertainment. And then eventually me saying, I'm gonna turn your kids into vaikiters, right? Sometimes you go up against certain people that the way they beat you. They put so much pressure on you by having so many different victories. That you have no choice but to give it to them. The amount of peer pressure. The Nobel Prize organization's gonna get from so many countries. They're going to be forced to give it to this man. Now, will they give it to him while he's alive or dead? I don't know.

• 38:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Will they give it to him like they gave Hall of Fame to Pete Rose after he died? I don't know. Are they gonna do to him what they did to Pete Rose? What they're gonna do to Barry Bonds? What they're gonna do to a lot of these guys? I don't know. I hope it happens while the man is alive. And because what he's attempting to do right now, such a complete opposite of what everybody said he was going to do. He was gonna start a world war. He was gonna do this. He was gonna do that. And the guy that ended up. Getting the Nobel Prize before him was the guy that empowered ISIS. And ever since Trump took office, when's the last time you heard about ISIS? You haven't heard about ISIS. You haven't heard about any of that stuff with ISIS ever since he took over. So, who knows? Who knows what's gonna happen?

• 39:25Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm more optimistic on it happening because the amount of pressure he puts on them. Alright, let me get to the next story here. Next story I want to get into is about New York City. So finally, Andrew Cuomo goes on the offensive. He writes a tweet, whether he wrote it, team wrote it, whoever it is, gets 30 something million views. Rob, do you mind just going to the tweet? Because I also want to see the commentary and the criticism that comes with it. So if you can go to X, go to Andrew Cuomo, uh, uh, perfect. And if you can go to that tweet. He finally decides to aggressively go after Mamdani. And he exposes him to the point that de Blasio had to respond. A bunch of people had to respond to what he had to say. And I think this is the one. Here we go.

• 40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Somewhere last night in New York City, a single mother and her children slept at a homeless shelter because you, Assemblyman Mamdani, are occupying her rent-controlled apartment. You grew up rich and married even a wealthier woman. You've had weddings on three continents. You own property in LGBTQIA+ murderous Uganda. You make $142,000 a year plus stipends. Your wife works too. Meaning you together likely make over $200,000 a year. No matter which way you cut it, Mamdani is a rich person. You are actually very rich. Yet you and your wife pay $20,300 a month as you have bragged for a nice apartment in Astoria that should be housing for someone who needs it. We are in the middle of a historic affordability crisis.

• 40:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Millions of low-income New Yorkers need this apartment and an apartment like it. Yet your apartment remains rented to rich people who don't need it. Today, I'm calling on you to move out immediately and give your affordable housing back to an unhoused family who needs it. Leaders must show moral clarity. Time to move out. Rob, if you can play the clip of what he says about his rent. I think that's when he's saying that. Uh, uh, uh, go for it.

• 41:15Speaker 15

  $300 for my one-bedroom in Astoria.

• 41:17Speaker 09

  $300 for my one-bedroom in Astoria.

• 41:19Patrick Bet-David?

  $300 for my one-bedroom in Astoria. So you can pause this, Rob. De Blasio responds back, okay? I don't know if you can find that, or if you can't, Rob. Just go back to Andrew Cuomo's video up top. And then we'll go to De Blasio's. Go back up on more. I think it's, uh, keep going, keep going, keep going. That's the one right there. So then in this one here, he announces that he's gonna be doing something. If you can make that bigger, go for it, Rob.

• 41:41Speaker 16

  Rent stabilized units when they're vacant should only be rented to people who need affordable housing. Not people like Zohran Mandami. You don't need to be renting rent stabilized units to wealthy people. Otherwise, what you're doing is you're abusing the system. I'm gonna propose not rent that apartment by law, except to a person who actually needs affordable housing. And I'm gonna call it Zohran's Law, because it's an abuse of the system.

• 42:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you can pause right. So Tom, your thoughts on this story here?

• 42:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, whoever Mandami's advisors are, that was not a talking point to me. Because you're sticking your chin out there against Mike Tyson. And I think Andrew Cuomo reacted the way an opponent's gonna react in New York, saying, "Are you crazy? We have affordability crisis." It was like a fastball, and Andrew Cuomo hit it so hard, the ball hasn't landed. And he's also coming back and saying, "And by the way, we need to make a law, because New York is famous for the rent control laws. And much as I don't like the rent control laws, he's making a point here. If we have rent-controlled housing, and it's supposed to be for people like this, then let's make a threshold, so that the people that it's intended for can get it.

• 42:59Tom Ellsworth?

  It doesn't become a cost benefit to other people that may get into it." And I think he's putting out a proposal for Zohran's Law that suddenly gives him something really to run against this guy. What you, what Andrew Cuomo was missing, I think, for the last week? Was he was kinda out there, you know, what do you go with Pat? I'm the old guy? Hey, I'm the guy you remember. You remember me? I was your governor. Remember me? So he's kinda running on remember me? And then everybody were going, yeah, I remember a little bit about COVID too, dude. And now I think he actually has a plank to run on.

• 43:35Patrick Bet-David?

  To be fair, to be fair, Tom, Rob, if you can go to that tweet of Cuomo, the first one, we'll come back to the de Blasio one. If you can go to the first one that he put up and, and yeah, go down a little bit and let's just read the comments because the comments is what matters the most. Go to this and read the comments, zoom in a little bit. Okay, so that's obviously the campaign. Go a little bit lower. I want to read the criticism. Maldonado is more corrupt than I realized. He's an expert socialist fraud, rich and title hoarding. How's it to take? Okay, good. Disgusting is right. I came to the comments expecting you to be getting cooked in some version of the story. Sounds like you may have actually uncovered something here. Congratulations. Okay, cool. Keep going a little. Run on a platform means test renting. So it was a throw out. Okay, interesting idea. It's good to see you fighting. Good. Fly, okay, preach. Yes, 100% amen.

• 44:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Go a little bit lower, Rob, to see if there's any criticism of what's being said. I guess what's happening here and they figured something out with, what do you call it? Algorithm. If you comment, you automatically bring up the comments that are most favorable of you. Do you understand what just happened right there? I don't know if you understand what I'm saying to you.

• 44:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Every one of them shameful. You all be darned. Look at that. Those are these quick responses from Cuomo.

• 44:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I commented there and him and I exchanged messages yesterday.

• 44:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I like Joey Marinario, but right there, I just think that that just captures it.

• 44:53Patrick Bet-David?

  One of the things I said to him yesterday was the following. I said, if you roll up your sleeves and play offense like this daily, November 4th will be a good day. Your opponent is young, nimble, energetic and shameless. You have to match that and beyond. Running for mayor is very different than running for governor. Keep playing offense, right? What's the point there? Running for governor is different than Congress, than Senate, than mayor, than president. It's a very different game. Like, you know, DeSantis was good for running for what? Governor. And he was Congress, I think, before, right? But president was very different.

• 45:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Daytona district, he was a congressman.

• 45:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. So it's a very different game nationally versus this. But the more central it is, the more smaller it is, the more it's grassroots, the more it's shaking cans, the more it's going there. So Andrew Cuomo has to act like he's 30 years old, drinking his coffee, drinking his energy drink, whatever he goes. Energize, keep the diet down, maybe no breakfast in the morning. Go a little bit with energy where you're hungry throughout the day. Have your first meal at lunch, maybe have dinner early at 5 o'clock and still go back at it and play offense. Because the reality of it is, this guy's not going to be slowing down. Having said that, here's what de Blasio said, and then I'm going to come to you. De Blasio, the former mayor, who is probably, I don't know,

• 46:14Patrick Bet-David?

  some will say the worst mayor New York's had in our lifetime. He said, "I did a rent freeze, and almost 2 million hardworking New Yorkers benefited." Mamdani wants to do a rent freeze. You know who doesn't want to do a rent freeze? Andrew Cuomo. And he thinks he can trick us into forgetting that. Can we see the comments section below what people are saying about de Blasio? Go a little bit lower. Rob, okay, it's, it, it, oh, actually, you didn't go to the comments section. Click on the comments section, yeah, right there. So let's see what people are saying. Go a little bit lower, go a little bit lower. Uh, "The former governor is hypocritical, he is a dirty, how do department owners continue on business if you deny them the rent that they deserve for the property? Thank you, I am John Galt. In fact, Mamdani wants to improve lives. Hardworking, nor do the rest want to pamper the rich and rent freeze." No problem. Push those billionaires out and see what happens.

• 46:59Patrick Bet-David?

  "I heard reports that 123 billionaires may leave New York City if Zirana is elected. I strongly suggest that 90% of their wealth be extracted via..." Oh my God. "An exit tax. Here's the hint. If hard, if working people don't get a break soon, they're going to come take their shares the hard way." Wow.

• 47:15Adam Sosnick?

  Read the next one.

• 47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  "The idea that New Yorkers benefited during the excruciatingly ideological and practical term is laughable. New York City survived you. It didn't thrive under your confused and egocentric leadership." Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 47:27Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you know, this argument about rent freezes... Let's play the pros and cons. So what are the pros? All right, people that are renting, they basically protect vulnerable people from massive rent increases in expensive cities like New York City. Let's play the con. So landlords will then become slum lords. Because if you cannot increase the rent and pay your mortgage or pay your expenses, what are you gonna do with the properties? You're just gonna let them rot and you're not gonna maintain them. You're not gonna fix them and the properties will go to crap. We all know that. But as far as Andrew Cuomo goes-

• 48:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Which is what's happening. Very good point, which is what's happening currently right now.

• 48:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, exactly. But if you're Cuomo, as much as I'm a believer in Chris Cuomo's shift to the middle and being reasonable, it is way too late for Andrew Cuomo to do anything here. Remember the song from OneRepublic that goes, "It's too late, it's too late to apologize." It's too late for you, Andrew Cuomo. It ain't happening. By the way, if you look at the Polymarkets right now, Zohar M'Nani is 80% likely to win. Cuomo and Eric Adams are combined, I think 16, 17%, 8 and 8, 9 and 8, whatever way you cut it. There it is, right there. 80, 90 and 8, and then Curtis Slobodch, 1%. Here's the bad news, guys, or good news for some of you.

• 48:50Adam Sosnick?

  This guy M'Nani is going to win the New York City mayoral race. And let's just be prepared for a communist Islamist to take over. And let's see what happens in New York City. I think a lot of them are gonna be moving to Miami. And don't discount that smile. Look at that smile on M'Nani. Forget about policies.

• 49:07Patrick Bet-David?

  80%, 9% Andrew, 8%.

• 49:09Adam Sosnick?

  This guy's got a smile that is infectious, like cancer.

• 49:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me explain something to you how politics works.

• 49:16Adam Sosnick?

  Explain.

• 49:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna explain something to you and I'm gonna educate you.

• 49:19Adam Sosnick?

  Please, sir, my friends.

• 49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, man, I'm just gonna give you what's going on here. So here's my opinion.

• 49:23Adam Sosnick?

  My friends.

• 49:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't forget what happened with the great legendary apple-eating Canadian named Pierre Poliev. Don't ever forget the greatness of his. How he got cocky and I'm like, I'm gonna... Not only did he think he was gonna be the Prime Minister of Canada, it felt like he believed he was gonna be the leader of the free world. Pierre Poliev. Yeah, he's a true fool, you know what I'm saying?

• 49:50Adam Sosnick?

  Je ne sais quoi.

• 49:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Last minute, two to four weeks before election, he gets destroyed by a freaking World Economic Forum guy named Mark Carney. And it becomes the worst political loss of our lifetime. With a guy that had that big of a flipping lead. Embarrassing, right? What does this mean? If Andrew's your brother, if Andrew's my brother, you have to go on a podcast and address your F-ups. You have to. And I know in that family, neither one of them want to. And that has to be an Italian thing, something their father told them many years ago. Because they believe if you do, the other side's gonna do what?

• 50:33Speaker 17

  Trash you.

• 50:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Double down on you, right? And just gonna trash you. But if, if he wants to go and address that and clear it up and go past it, you have to be straight up. But in the last four weeks of New York City, you don't know who's gonna come out and support. You still don't know. Apparently, Trump and Andrew Cuomo had a conversation together, where Trump is wanting to help Andrew Cuomo win. If you put up a story, Andrew Cuomo, type in Andrew. Yeah, Trump, Andrew, yeah. And Trump, yeah. If you put, and then go to news, there's a story of Trump called them or something happened.

• 51:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Did Trump and Cuomo actually talk on the phone three days ago? Yeah, can you click on that? So zoom in a little, uh, there's no story, it's just a video. Let's see what the video says, Rob.

• 51:18Speaker 17

  Sure.

• 51:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Go on that and click on the video if you could. Uh, uh, yeah, go ahead. Okay, we got a commercial. So apparently, these guys spoke and you think Trump's gonna want Mamdani to win over Andrew Cuomo? Don't forget, the moment Trump saw that Pierre Poliev was being cocky and arrogant, what did Trump do? I kinda like the Carney guy. Who ended up winning? Carney won! Carney won, is, is this it, Rob? Can you play this clip?

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• 52:46Speaker 18

  Cuomo is doubling down on his denials of reports that he spoke with President Trump regarding the election.

• 52:52Speaker 19

  But the Democratic nominees are on Mamdani, does not believe him, and is lashing out at the former governor. Robert Moses joins us now with the very latest on this. Robert?

• 53:02Speaker 20

  Kurt and Rosanna, who says the summer is the quiet time leading up to the election? Far from it. With 88 days to go until the election, the candidates are still sparring over that New York Times report claiming that President Donald Trump and former Governor Andrew Cuomo spoke by phone in recent weeks. Cuomo says the president actually prefers state Assemblyman Zeran Mamdani and Mayor Eric Adams over him for different reasons, and denies the New York Times reporting.

• 53:28Speaker 21

  I can't remember the last time I spoke to President Trump. I've never spoken to him about the mayor's race.

• 53:36Speaker 20

  Mamdani doesn't believe that. He accuses Cuomo of, quote, "conspiring with President Trump to the detriment..."

• 53:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it. Okay.

• 53:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't understand the strategy behind it.

• 53:49Speaker 20

  What?

• 53:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't understand the strategy behind it. So you think it's a good idea for you to rally the troops to get behind you to claim that you're not a Trump guy?

• 54:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You think that's the better strategy? You don't think New Yorkers, who, the Israel community of New York, the logical community of New York, the billionaires of New York, the Christians of New York, the Republicans of New York, the libertarians of New York, the independents of New York, you don't think Trump can help you get that vote and beat Mamdani? I don't know. I don't know. I don't understand the strategy. Do you understand what I'm saying?

• 54:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I understand exactly what you're saying. There is a certain arrogance that went with Pierre Poliev and that goes with Mnemi. Forget their positions, but there is a certain arrogance that goes with people that are up in the polls. And sometimes it doesn't make you much of a fighter. And then to sit there and say you've conspired with Trump. Conspired with Trump? Why don't you just come out and say you're anti everything that the United States stands for? Why don't you just come out and say that?

• 55:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. I don't...

• 55:09Tom Ellsworth?

  That's just not the play.

• 55:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if that's the right play, especially after... Like, you've got so many easy things to go after. That was great, by the way. That got tens of millions of views just on X, let alone how many views it got of people talking about it on podcasts. Here's another story that came up with Mnemi is the fact that he hired private security after calling to defund the police. Adam, not defend the police. He called to defund the police.

• 55:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Totally different opposites.

• 55:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Totally different opposites. I don't know if you got a clip on that, Rob, or not.

• 55:39Speaker 05

  Dude, this is the actual clip from 2020 where he made the claim to defund the police.

• 55:44Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the security he hired?

• 55:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, that's who it is.

• 55:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Seriously, Rob? That's a security?

• 55:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, look at that guy right there.

• 55:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, play the clip. There's no way that's a security.

• 55:52Speaker 22

  Are you for defunding the police? Are you for a serious reform that people can see on the ground?

• 55:59Speaker 15

  I am in favor of defunding the police.

• 56:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 56:01Speaker 22

  Can you elaborate?

• 56:02Speaker 15

  Yes. What that means is that right now in New York City, we have a budget of close to $6 billion for the New York City Police Department. And that is an astronomical figure.

• 56:12Speaker 22

  Wow.

• 56:12Speaker 15

  And I think that what we need to do is not chip away a million dollars or 5 million. I think in this first year, we need to take a billion dollars out of that budget.

• 56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so he said that. Now, he openly... You know, the, the, the Mamdani, uh, spent thirty-three thousand, four ninety-five in June and July on advanced security and investigations, making three payments ranging from eight thousand to thirteen thousand. Despite his twenty-twenty statements like queer liberation means defunding the police. The company advertises itself as a proud employer of cops in New York Police Department, which Mamdani has personally called to defund following a Manhattan shooting where an off-duty NYPD officer was, a police officer was murdered. Mamdani faced backlash for his anti-cop stance on X. I'm heartbroken, and you know, we've read that tweet before. But there's, there's many opportunities to go up against this after he had a massive wedding.

• 57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I just think, I don't know who is Cuomo's campaign manager and who he's talking to about strategy. I don't know. I hope it's somebody that isn't the same as usual because you're not going in a typical, traditional, same-old campaign as you have in the past. This is, this, this is a case study nobody can give you advice on. I don't know if that makes sense. Nobody can give you advice on this case study.

• 57:33Speaker 11

  There's nothing off the shelf.

• 57:34Patrick Bet-David?

  There's never been a time that you can go and look at a campaign like the one today where Trump's at, where Mamdani's at, where America's at, where New York is at. There's never been, and where you are at. So I, I, I don't know. I don't know if I'm taking counsel from the typical guys that are, let me, here's what, Jim Carver, let me tell you something. I, I think this is a very, very diff, it's a mistake to take advice from anybody on politics right now that's above sixty years old on this campaign, my opinion. Vinny?

• 58:01Speaker 11

  I, I mean, well, fir, first off, I want Adams, I think Adams is right. And if I had to bet, if somebody gave me a hundred grand and said, you have to bet this, who are you betting on? Mamdani's gonna win, and good. I want New Yorkers to feel and see what the hell, you want it? Like, it's, by the way, he's not hiding. He's letting you know, defund the police, he's pro-I- Islamic, whatever the hell he's doing. He was talking about, he said something along the lines of, uh, he argued that suicide bombers need to be understood as a political category.

• 58:31Patrick Bet-David?

  His father said that.

• 58:32Speaker 11

  His father?

• 58:32Patrick Bet-David?

  His father said that, not him.

• 58:33Speaker 11

  So, so, yeah, thank you for clarifying.

• 58:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's a professor? Mamdani's father said that.

• 58:37Speaker 11

  Father, my bad. So, that, that's what you're dealing with, and that's what you want? You're gonna get what you want, and you made a great point. I don't want to give away anything, Pat, what you recently said. In four years, when we come back, because the, the elections win, is it April? No, November. November 4th. Watch what's gonna happen to them. But in fairness for the people.

• 58:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I said that to all the guys at Jubilee.

• 58:57Speaker 11

  I don't want to give it away. You said that. And here's, at the end of the day, I think I mentioned this once too. Look at the pool of people. They have Eric Adams, okay? Andrew Cuomo, with all due respect, what he did during COVID, there's no coming back from that. What he did with all the old people and all the deaths, nobody's gonna forget that. So you have Eric Adams, you have him, this is their best choice, is a freaking communist, okay? So, good, good. And the people that are backing him, the people that they're interviewing and the man on the street, they think he's the savior. Oh, he's gonna, you know, no police. You know what that means? With the amount of crime in New York, you know what that means, Adam? That they're not gonna have cops, they're gonna have social workers. When you get stabbed, a social worker's gonna come up to you and be like, to the stabber,

• 59:43Speaker 11

  "Hey, how do you, how do you feel? What's making you stab that guy? Why are you stabbing him? How, you know, what's it like at home? They are doomed. I'm telling you right now, it's the modern day Gotham City, and I don't feel bad for them. You keep voting for these people, good for you. And this is coming from a New Yorker.

• 59:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Amen. There's two angles there. The first angle is the one that Pat asked. And I think that Cuomo needs to be talking to the core independents that are in Portland. Portland, Oregon. Remember, they defunded the police, they had that little zone that was downtown. I don't remember the name of it, they gave it a name. It was the zone that was downtown.

• 1:00:14Speaker 11

  Oh, Chaz?

• 1:00:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah, or whatever it was. Exactly. And guess what? Now they've come back and the people of Portland, Oregon are like, you know, this defund the police thing didn't work. We want, and it's ridiculous, the percentages you see in polls, of people that want them to please fund the police in Portland, Oregon. I think it was a poll that was done that we covered on the podcast about three weeks ago. It was over 65%, over two-thirds of all voters were like, "Yeah, you know, a few cops around here would be helpful, come in handy." So I believe that they need to be talking to Cuomo's campaign. I agree, Pat. Nobody over 60, that's the usual suspect. They gotta go get to some people that are running these successful campaigns back against it in places like Portland, bring it back. And George Will, our friend George Will,

• 1:01:01Tom Ellsworth?

  was on Bill Maher, and he sums it up at the end.

• 1:01:06Patrick Bet-David?

  This is great. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:01:08Speaker 23

  About to get started, one of our leading lights was a socialist named Nourian Bevan. He said, "What could go wrong?" He said, "We have a nation bedded on coal, surrounded by fish. It would take an organizational genius to have a shortage of either." In three years, they had a shortage of both. That's socialism.

• 1:01:27Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, what George Will said here, I think yesterday or on Fri- I don't know when this was. He said, "I hope they win."

• 1:01:34Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:01:34Patrick Bet-David?

  "I want him to win because every 20 years, we need a conspicuous, confined experiment with social media so we can crack it up again." I- I am so on the same page with this one. I can't wait to see that happen. But there's a part of me that doesn't want to. There's the other part of me that wants to keep steady.

• 1:01:48Adam Sosnick?

  Of course. Well, those of you that don't know George Will, I think he was one of the first people that got you kind of into the political game.

• 1:01:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He was the first guy.

• 1:01:55Adam Sosnick?

  He was a very smart guy. Um, and definitely made his way in the world. Regarding New York City and the potential mayor Zorin Mamdani. People think that this is sort of a bug. I can't believe that they're gonna vote for this communist, this socialist. I can't believe it. What people don't understand is this is not a bug. This is a feature. The people of New York City are voting for him because he's a communist, because he's an Islamist, because he's a socialist. That is the reason that they're voting for him. This whole social experiment that we're doing, where the taxpayers will have to pay for all this. Here's a guy who's basically the anti-Zorin Mamdani explaining how it works. You got this, Rob?

• 1:02:34Speaker 24

  Zorin is gonna pay for free childcare, free buses, when he's gonna step into office on the first day and he's gonna realize, actually, the mayor doesn't have any power to raise money on the rich, and that was his plan to pay for all this crap to begin with. I'll tell you how he's gonna pay for it. He's gonna pay for it by raising property taxes, raising other taxes in any way that he can. The thing you have got to understand is I'm from South Richmond Hill. People in the outer boroughs over there, they don't have these big fancy corporate tech jobs. They're not celebrities with fat salaries. The way they make their money is they own maybe a deli across the street, or they own a spice shop, or they work there. And those people are the ones that are gonna absorb these higher taxes that he's gonna use to generate income for his ill-conceived ideas.

• 1:03:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he- he- I understand what he's saying. And by the way, while we're on New York City, let me tell you how many bad ideas New York City keeps coming up with. This is another one for you.

• 1:03:22Adam Sosnick?

  Look at that guy right there, by the way.

• 1:03:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go back to that one, Rob.

• 1:03:25Adam Sosnick?

  See that picture? Look at that guy. Look at that stud. Look at a young George Will and a young PBD.

• 1:03:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That is March of 09, 16 years ago, when I heard him give a speech. And from that moment on, I'm like, man, this makes a lawyers are ruining America. He talks about stories about all this stuff. And I came back, I gave a 90 minute talk the following day, Saturday morning, and it was, uh, this was Clermont Institute event with Larry Arnn. I think, uh, Pat Boone was at my table. I met John Voight, I met a bunch of guys, Fred Lieber, all these guys.

• 1:03:55Adam Sosnick?

  This is right around the time you started PHP, no?

• 1:03:57Patrick Bet-David?

  This is right before I started PHP. A part of this meeting was why I started PHP.

• 1:04:03Adam Sosnick?

  Wow, thank you, George Will.

• 1:04:05Patrick Bet-David?

  This, this is the day it happened. But let me tell you this, folks, pay attention to this. Only in New York City, in California, they'll come up with ideas like this. New York City wants to spend 65 million dollars on homeless shelter for transgender people. Do you hear what I just said? 65 million just for transgender people, as if there's like so many of them. Overnight, apparently, there's like a massive increase of people that are transgender. So, New York City opens Ace's Place Homeless Shelter in Long Island City, the nation's first city-funded shelter exclusively for transgender identifying individuals, costing taxpayers 65 million over five years to provide 150 beds, that's it. You ready for this?

• 1:04:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Equating to $87,000 per bed annually through 2030. Sean Ebony Coleman, CEO of Destination Tomorrow, Bronx-based LGBTQ center running the facility, said the shelter is named after his mother, whose nickname was Ace. Department of Social Services Commissioner Molly Wasaw said Ace's Place will offer transgender New Yorkers a safe place to heal and stabilize in trauma-informed settings with the support of staff who are deeply invested in their growth and well-being, Park told everybody else. And then the shelter operation, Destination Tomorrow, includes a full-time psychiatric nurse, social workers, and holistic mental wellness programs like yoga, meditation, plans for culinary programs, offering hands-on

• 1:05:29Patrick Bet-David?

  kitchen experiences, I would not be eating that food. But, when you, when you read a story like this, okay? With what's going on in New York City? And you wonder why people are leaving New York City? Because they're sitting there saying, my taxpayer money is going to this? Yes. So, all this tax I pay in New York, you're spending it for this? Yes. Now, imagine if Mamdani wins, New York. If Mamdani wins. And the 123 billionaires, say half of them leave. Say 60 of the 123 billionaires leave and they go to where? Palm Beach, Miami, Manalapan, Lantana, someplace Brentwood, Tennessee. They pick a place to go anywhere but New York. They go. This is the most important question you gotta ask yourself. You ready?

• 1:06:13Patrick Bet-David?

  This is by far the most important question you gotta ask yourself. Rob, can you play the clip of Elizabeth Warren? This is by far the most important question New Yorkers gotta ask themselves. Just go to my ex account and you'll see it, Rob. All the way, it's like five clips down. There's a clip of Elizabeth Warren with CNBC. They're having a conversation and she gets challenged on the billionaire stuff. And watch what she says about billionaires. And Rob, you can probably fast forward the stuff that he's saying at the beginning. Go until she comes up, okay, right there. Start it from the moment she starts talking. Go back a little bit and start it from right there. Go ahead.

• 1:06:50Speaker 25

  And doing that by raising the most revenue as possible without chasing businesses and the high income taxpayers out of the city. Cause they can go to Austin, they can go to Dallas, they can go to Atlanta, they can go to Nashville. This is your issue. It's a national issue, not a local issue.

• 1:07:07Speaker 26

  The issue is affordability. Do you know how many working families are chased out of New York City every day? Because they can't afford housing, they can't afford groceries, they can't afford childcare. What Zohar is saying is I want people to be able to afford to live in New York City. That's what keeps it a vibrant city. That's what makes people want to live here.

• 1:07:29Speaker 25

  Nobody disagrees with that Senator, but raising taxes in order to do it? Why is that the answer?

• 1:07:34Speaker 26

  Oh dear, are you worried that billionaires are going to go hungry?

• 1:07:37Speaker 25

  No, I'm worried that they're going to leave and spend their money elsewhere.

• 1:07:40Speaker 26

  You know, they've threatened to do that over and over and over.

• 1:07:43Speaker 25

  They've left.

• 1:07:44Speaker 26

  But here's the thing.

• 1:07:45Speaker 25

  And Goldman Sachs, when they create new jobs, they do it in Dallas. And Blackstone won't build a new headquarters. Go on and on.

• 1:07:50Speaker 26

  You want to have a workable city? You want to have a city that's vibrant? You want to have a city where the streets are full? Where there are things for sale 24 hours a day? Then you need people who can live here and work here.

• 1:08:01Speaker 25

  We got that right now, by the way. I would point out, New York is thriving, so right now. It's doing pretty well, actually.

• 1:08:08Speaker 26

  I'm glad you think they're doing well because a lot of people are struggling to pay for housing.

• 1:08:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause that right there, Rob. So check this out, folks. Here's the question you gotta ask yourself. Vinny, I'm gonna ask you this as well. I know you're a math guy, so I'm gonna come to you probably for this. So check this out, check this out. Do you think if the sixty billionaires leave? Rob, can you put a number and ask Grok or ChatGPT? If if half of the hundred and twenty-three billionaires of New York City leave and move to Florida, how much tax revenue will New York City lose?

• 1:08:43Speaker 11

  Good question.

• 1:08:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? How much tax revenue will New York City lose? And I don't even know if that's the number because if the hundred and twenty-three billionaires leave, imagine how many people worth a hundred million will leave and imagine how many decamillionaires will leave. Look at that, the hundred and twenty-three billionaires in New York are estimated net worth seven hundred fifty-nine billion dollars. The top one percent of New York City pays forty-eight percent of cities taxes. Up from forty percent, used to be forty in twenty nineteen, is now forty-eight percent. That's a twenty percent increase in two years, okay? If they leave, from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty-two, they lost thirteen point eight billion dollars in adjusted gross income due to residents moving to Florida. From twenty twenty-one, state lost six billion dollars in SSGI,

• 1:09:29Patrick Bet-David?

  over sixty thousand residents moving. Goldman Sachs estimated that similar out-immigration has led to a three percent drop in tax revenue in the city. But we're not even talking about that time. We're talking about now. Given New York City's extensive budget, even a one to two percent drop off could equal seven hundred over even a few billion dollars. Here's a question I got to everybody in New York City that's excited about Mom Donnie. All the socialists, all the Democrats, all the liberals. You ready? Say the billionaires leave. Say they leave. Say you lose billions of dollars of tax revenue. Do you think the government's gonna adjust

• 1:10:08Patrick Bet-David?

  the expenditure they have in the city because they lost all that tax revenue? Hell, no. They're not lowering any of the expenditure. Guess what they're doing with all that spending? They're still spending, but guess who's paying for it? You.

• 1:10:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Low, middle-income families. You know why? Because now jobs are not there. And now your city's spending $65 million of your money on 150 transgenders. Let me say this one more time. The city's spending $65 million of taxpayers' money in New York City on only 150 transgenders. That's the amount of bets that they're creating. $87,000 per bet is what they're spending. So, the reality of it is, you guys can get excited about this. You guys can get excited about all this stuff. These people, when they leave, which they will, many of them did. It costs $14 billion of adjusted gross income. Meanwhile, taxes went up on the top 1% for 20% from 40% to 48%.

• 1:11:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think there's other places that are you don't think Florida's gonna be knocking on the door saying, "Hey, guys, we'd be more than happy to have you in Palm Beach." You don't think they're talking to Ken Griffin? You don't think they're talking to all the other people? "How do you like Florida? How do you like Florida? How do you like Florida? How do you like Florida?" They're saying, "I freaking love Florida." Really? Yeah, what do you love about? "I love Florida. I love Florida. I love Florida. I love Tennessee. I love Texas." You're losing them. And the Goldman Sachs headquarters at their building in Dallas is gonna be a monstrosity. And they're slowly moving everybody out of New York. Slowly. Adam, thoughts?

• 1:11:37Adam Sosnick?

  Well, people think that whatever has worked in the past, as far as what has made America great, New York City, LA, as examples, are always gonna be the greatest cities in America. What we've seen since COVID and what we'll continue to see as socialism and wokeism take place in certain of these cities is they won't be great forever. You know, Trump says, "Make America great again." Those cities are gonna basically use those catchphrases in the next 5, 10, 20 years because those cities are crumbling. Everyone I talk to in LA, it's like, "LA just ain't it anymore, dude. I'm moving out of New York City." How much tax revenue left during COVID? I think $20 billion. That will continue to happen. Here's what I've learned when, I don't know how much we're allowed to talk about it,

• 1:12:18Adam Sosnick?

  but when you were debating those socialists and communists in LA over the week, over the weekend.

• 1:12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of them were openly saying I'm a communist.

• 1:12:27Adam Sosnick?

  Openly, openly. Here's what I've learned, they're not idiots. They're not stupid. They're actually very smart, but their energy is funneled into the wrong ideas. And when you have very smart people focused on very dumb things, very bad things will happen. Here's what I realized, the socialism stuff, the free stuff, the free stuff, the free stuff, it's just basically a sugar high. It's having dessert for dinner. It's great, I want to eat, but what's going to happen is your stomach's going to feel bad, your teeth are going to decay, and basically you're going to have to live in a dentist's office. Capitalism is the exact opposite.

• 1:12:59Speaker 00

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• 1:13:28Speaker 13

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• 1:13:58Adam Sosnick?

  It's eating healthy, it's being disciplined, it's eating your vegetables. It sucks now, but damn, a couple of months, year down the road, you're going to be looking great, you have a six pack. The reality is the sugar high people are working, are winning, and the capitalists are basically going to move out of town. The, in New York City. The trans people are the good guys and the billionaires are the bad guys. Grapple with that.

• 1:14:22Speaker 11

  And, and question, has it ever worked? In the history of-

• 1:14:25Adam Sosnick?

  No, they just haven't done it right, Vinny.

• 1:14:27Speaker 11

  Oh, that's what it is.

• 1:14:28Adam Sosnick?

  They just haven't killed enough people to get it done.

• 1:14:30Speaker 11

  And just really quick, how, what did, be honest, what did California look like when we were there? Just the area where we shot. Be honest. What did Ca-

• 1:14:39Patrick Bet-David?

  By, by the way, that was, that was not a safe place where we shot the whole thing.

• 1:14:42Speaker 11

  Not at all. Downtown LA, because we were on the bus, Rob, you saw the, the, the, what, what's that? The, the shade opened? I looked outside and I was like, there's no-

• 1:14:51Adam Sosnick?

  Homeless people, crackhead, homeless, tense.

• 1:14:53Speaker 11

  Somebody was somebody, there was a Mexican family selling like, um, you know, they had a food stand. There was just a homeless guy laying there in his underwear and they're acting as if he's not even there like it's, like it's normal. I'm telling you, New York, as bad as it is now, wait. Just wait and it's gonna be all your fault because you're like a guy that smiles and wants to give you free shit.

• 1:15:13Adam Sosnick?

  You're missing one major component.

• 1:15:15Speaker 11

  What?

• 1:15:15Adam Sosnick?

  The weather, bro.

• 1:15:16Speaker 11

  Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. I'm sorry.

• 1:15:18Adam Sosnick?

  You gotta, I mean, come on.

• 1:15:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Next story I want to get to is the following. And while we're talking about California and New York, Florida Attorney General proposes legislation to stop sexual predators and pursuing, from pursuing surrogacy, adoption and foster care. Okay? So let me read this story to you, Rob. Is it a video?

• 1:15:35Speaker 11

  Yes, sir.

• 1:15:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:15:37Speaker 27

  This is Attorney General James Othmeyer. By now you know my goal is to make Florida the safest state to raise a family. As a father of three little ones, my wife Jean and I know that there is no greater blessing from God than to have children. There's also no greater responsibility than to bring up good citizens. I know there are many couples out there that are unable to have kids and many are turning to technology and various resources in the hopes of aiding their quest for parenthood, surrogacy being one of these options. That said, in Florida, we have a responsibility as leaders to protect families. And we've seen situations lately where surrogacy has exposed kids to dangerous harm.

• 1:16:22Speaker 27

  In Pennsylvania, we recently saw a homosexual couple, including a registered sex offender, celebrate bringing home a newborn. In other states, we've seen situations where parents have obtained children through surrogacy or adoption, only to then subject them to repeated sexual abuse.

• 1:16:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause that right. Okay, so do you see the sensible ideas to protect kids and families? Do you see that? Do you see the sensible, complete opposite of trying to protect transgenders in New York with your taxpayer money? That's the difference. If you have a family and you got kids, and this is the story I was talking about, oh, you found it, yes. This is two weeks ago. Bizarre discovery of 21 children in LA home raises questions about lack of regulations for surrogacy. What? Let me read this story, then I'll come to this one, Rob, if you can keep this one up, because they kind of go together. So you heard what story he talked about, right? Highlighting what is going on here.

• 1:17:25Patrick Bet-David?

  The removal of 21 children from the custody of LA-area couple has put a spotlight on the practice of using surrogacy to build a family. Surrogacy has no federal regulation, leaving it up to the states to set the rules if they choose to allow. What?

• 1:17:38Speaker 27

  What?

• 1:17:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What? The kids 15, at the couple's mansion, and six more live in elsewhere, were taken by an LA County Child Welfare Agency in May after the parents were accused of failing to intervene in the abuse of a baby by nanny. Police in Arcadia said the children range in age from 2 months to 13 years old, with most between 1 and 3. Police said the FBI won't comment, but agents are investigating Sylvia Zhang, 38, and Guo Zhong Wan, 65, swan, have not responded to emails seeking comment. Police have Zhang, believe Zhang gave birth to one or two of the children, while the rest were born by surrogate. Some women who were paid surrogate for the couple now say they were unaware that the couple was accumulating a supersized family, raising questions about their intentions.

• 1:18:23Patrick Bet-David?

  What were they going to do with these children? Asked the lawyer in San Francisco. So, Tom, your thoughts? Florida versus LA madness?

• 1:18:33Tom Ellsworth?

  The Florida attorney-

• 1:18:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually, I'm sorry. Let me go to Vinny first. Go ahead, Vinny.

• 1:18:36Speaker 11

  Okay, yeah. Sorry, Tommy, but I think, and I'm pretty sure Tom's gonna agree, this should be a federal law yesterday. Okay, remember last week, we talked about that gay couple that adopted the baby? One of the fathers, Brandon Keith Riley Mitchell, was convicted of child porn, sexual abuse of a minor, pay attention to what he was in trouble for, endangering the welfare of children, and corruption of minors, okay? And I did some research, and guess what, Tom? They still have that baby, who is a boy, remind you, in their home, okay? Which, to me, that's criminal negligence by the system. The child isn't their blood, so that means there's zero natural protection. We're talking about a predator. Think about this, guys. A predator is alone with a baby, he's changing him, he's bathing him, and he's tucking him in at night, all right?

• 1:19:21Speaker 11

  And it's just, one day, the stranger, the stranger baby, because it's a stranger, is going to grow up and become the same age as the people that this guy freaking abused and sexually assaulted, okay? And we shouldn't be waiting for the headline of "What went wrong?" We know what the hell is wrong. The system at this point is just as much to blame as a freaking predator. Why is this even an issue, Pat? This should be not just a Florida thing, the whole freaking nation. You should see how much flack I got online, people messaging me, gay people, like, "How dare you? You're homophobic, you're blah blah blah blah." Bring that shit on. No gay couple should have, especially one that was in trouble for, I'll say it again, let me say it one more time, what was he in trouble for?

• 1:20:06Speaker 11

  Child porn, sexual abuse of a minor, and endangering the welfare of children, and you guys think that guy should have a freaking boy, a baby in his house, we're kissing him and he's changing him? Get the hell out of here with that noise. Keep coming at me. Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:20:19Tom Ellsworth?

  There's laws in the United States. When there is a live birth, there has to be a birth certificate. And that birth certificate is your path to a social security number and path to recognized citizenship. So let's just look at the legal stuff, and I'm just as emotional as you are about the fact that there's uncorrected things going on out there with sexual predators. When a surrogate has a child, the birth certificate first recognizes who is the legal individual that had that baby. This is the mom. She can decline to state the father. Or, "I don't know," or "I don't recall," or, you know, there's another bizarre things that she can say. Then they have to go to court and say, it's called the post-birth order, where you go to court and you basically adopt the child-

• 1:21:03Tom Ellsworth?

  On the birth certificate, and they say, "This is a surrogate adoption we're doing." And they don't call it adoption, it's surrogacy. And then the court order, like Florida's Department of Vital Statistics, has to, under a court order, then change the names on the birth certificate. So now that these are the legal parents. Now, the name of the surrogate is removed and sealed. So that's how these kids that grow up have to go through all this stuff to somehow find out who their birth mom was. If they were so interested. So you have a process to review surrogates. And it's a failure of the system, Vinnie. It's a failure of the system. If you're on parole, you can't buy a gun.

• 1:21:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:21:45Tom Ellsworth?

  And if you go in and you buy a gun because the background check, you know, missed something, that's a failure of the system. Likewise, if you're a sexual predator, what the Florida Attorney General is saying, "Hey, in Florida, we're gonna check and double-check. And if you're a sexual predator, when you go in to get the post-birth order to adopt the child who's been born to the surrogate, where you have the legal birth certificate, because you gotta have that, guess what? We're gonna put the hammer down and say, "No." And I think the Florida Attorney General is doing something very sensible. Meanwhile, in California, you can basically, and who knows what these people were doing? You can accumulate an army of children through surrogacy for who knows what.

• 1:22:30Tom Ellsworth?

  It could just be, "I wanna have a lot of kids." But there also could be other things going on. And apparently, they couldn't watch after them because a nanny was abusing the baby, and the older child turned them in.

• 1:22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So I'm not, to me, I don't think anything weird is going on here. Okay, I think the chance of that being the case here is 10 or 20%. I'm actually not going to date it something. But the fact that we have no federal laws for surrogacy, and it's by state, and it allows for some person who wanted to abuse a child, they can go to a state that's got lenient surrogacy law. So Rob, can you pull up which states in America have the most lenient surrogacy laws? Which states and which states have the most, which states have the most lenient and the most, what's the opposite of lenient? Strict. Lenient and strict surrogacy laws?

• 1:23:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Laws. Yeah, let's see in America, in the United States. Yeah, perfect. I'm curious because to me, that's more my concern. My concern isn't what they did. They could have been very innocent and it led to something else. Okay, most lenient states. Uh, California, leading surrogacy permits, commercial surrogacy and routinely grants pre-birth parentage. Okay, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, DC, New Hampshire, Maryland, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Rhode Island, Vermont. All considered surrogacy. Michigan recently updated, it's April 25th, you're transitioning from restrictive to progressive by legally recognizing surrogacy arrangements as well as New York. Now, most ambiguous restrictive or ambiguous are what? Louisiana only allows altruistic just around surrogacy or married heterosexual couple using their own.

• 1:24:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Nebraska compensated surrogacy is not considered legal here, making any paid arrangements effectively unbanned. And Arizona, surrogacy contracts are expressly prohibited through at least, you know, where it goes to heterosexual couples. Okay, fine. I get that. Go a little bit lower. Is there anything else? Strict as are Louisiana, Nebraska, Arizona. Yeah. I think the fact that we're bringing this up is to bring awareness for people to be paying attention to it. It's a very open, if you're, if you're somebody that's dirty and you want to abuse the law, you got a few states you can go to to handle that. Okay, if all of a sudden a gay couple wants to go get 10 kids, is there limitations on that in some of these states? I don't know. There's too many opportunities for abuse.

• 1:24:52Speaker 11

  And just really, really fast. And I, I have to say this again, the Brandon Keith Riley Mitchell guy, they still have that baby. He is a convicted freaking child abusing freaking. Yes, yes. He, he was convicted of, Rock, you make, fact check me. Brandon Keith Riley Mitchell was convicted of child porn.

• 1:25:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he till today? So he, he was never let go and he was never innocent. He was convicted.

• 1:25:19Speaker 11

  He was convicted. Am I right, Rod? He's a registered sex offender.

• 1:25:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Registered sex offender in.

• 1:25:23Speaker 11

  And then Pat, how is that kid still in their house?

• 1:25:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, that's Michigan.

• 1:25:27Speaker 11

  Oh my god, like there's a, oh my god, like I don't understand.

• 1:25:31Adam Sosnick?

  Can I weigh in on this?

• 1:25:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, go ahead.

• 1:25:32Speaker 11

  Sure.

• 1:25:33Adam Sosnick?

  Well, we're looking at Exhibit A of why Donald Trump won the presidency. It's just common sense at this point. The reason that you're freaking out here is because there's cities and states around the country who are not practicing common sense. All Trump had to do was expose the crazy. What Trump did was say, "I prioritize citizens over illegal immigrants. I know the difference between a man and a woman. I love America. You hate America. And I have morals and values that align with the average American." You know, on Bill Maher this past weekend, did you see who was on? It was our friend Stephen A. Smith and Dr. Phil. And they argued about whether the Ten Commandments should be in school.

• 1:26:18Adam Sosnick?

  And Stephen A. Smith and Dr. Phil were on the side of, "Yeah, I think there should be a little introduction of morals and values and principles." Whereas Bill Maher, who does not believe in God, was basically saying, "Why do we even need that? The Ten Commandments is all BS." But that is leading to the degradation of society. Now, I believe in the separation of church and state, to what extent, though? Judeo-Christian values, the Ten Commandments, is what this country was founded on, right? But we've seen, I don't know if you have that chart from the Wall Street Journal that I sent you, the decline in all these values that America was basically founded on. The decline of religion, the decline of patriotism, which very much bothers me, the decline of having children, and then, and community involvement.

• 1:27:02Adam Sosnick?

  Americans pull back from the values that wants to find us. That's what's going on here. So, my prediction is this pendulum will swing one direction and to the other, and it'll be 10, 20 years before LA and New York City and some of these psychopathic woke agenda have to reckon with the reality.

• 1:27:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go final to Tom, and then I'm going to the next story.

• 1:27:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the question from Pat was national laws and national precedent. And when, you know, Roe v. Wade, that was a national law. That was governing abortion. And then, Alberg Fell versus Hodges, that was a national case in 2015 that gave that legalized same-sex marriage for all 50 states. And of course, remember, that was Kennedy, Sotomayor, Kagan, Ginsburg, and Breyer. liberal five at the time that won't happen now but to Pat's point if we're gonna have Roe v Wade on a national level and we're gonna have Ogryphal versus Hodges John Roberts dissented although and that gives us same-sex marriage on a national basis why shouldn't we have national laws governing you know surrogacy for continuity's sake because you're talking

• 1:28:04Tom Ellsworth?

  about citizens you're talking about protecting those citizens so I agree with Pat there should be national laws and the precedent is there with the Supreme Court in so many ways

• 1:28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  okay all right let's go to the next story Jimmy Kimmel admits repulsive liberal scolds are driving people away from the Democratic Party he admits and here's what he had to say and he's on the podcast with Sarah Silverman right that's the other girl yeah go ahead Rob

• 1:28:29Speaker 28

  it's the loud voices that that scare people from saying what they believe and make you think twice about a joke or whatever you know these things and you know a lot of their points are valid but a lot of them are also just repulsive and I mean they were in that they repel people from they go like oh you're no fun I don't want to be around you and I think that if you had to boil it down to like one thing that's kind of what it is it's like like oh you're no fun I don't want to be part of your group

• 1:29:01Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah you know it's funny first of all Sarah Silverman needs a better audio person that's working for her

• 1:29:07Tom Ellsworth?

  how horrible was that

• 1:29:08Patrick Bet-David?

  that was pretty pathetic maybe she needs to manect a couple of our guys here but but I would tell you this when I'm when I'm hearing that I responded back to Kimmel and this is what I had to say I have no problem with Kimmel having opinions about any of these things but here's what I said I said some unsolicited advice for you if you wanted to be a pundit go to CNN or MSNBC and share your opinions but your job as a late night host is to entertain Americans who are burned out with divisive politics you failed miserably people don't have a problem with Jimmy Kimmel's opinions people don't have a problem with Stephen Colbert's opinions they have a problem that your job wasn't that and that's why you failed miserably

• 1:29:53Patrick Bet-David?

  You failed. I watch Jay Leno. I found a picture the other day of me going to Jay Leno's show and luckily I was able to get in because they thought I was 16 while I was only 14 years old. And I took a picture with the guy. And you know, they said, who's here? We screamed out, we came here from Vancouver. We have no clue where Vancouver is. We went up on the stage and we took a picture with Jay Leno. We're like, oh my God, we met Jay Leno. It was so funny. I wouldn't, we were one of those guys that would go stand in line to listen to Leno. Maybe I gotta bring the pictures next time to show it to you. What's the point here? Their job is to entertain. Their job is to make us laugh. Their job is to make us sit there and be like, oh my God, that's so funny. Ah, that's hilarious. And

• 1:30:34Patrick Bet-David?

  all of a sudden, if you don't take the vaccine, if you don't do this, if you vote for Trump, if you do that, you know what? Just go work at MSNBC and work with Maddow. Just go to CNN. It's okay. Nothing wrong with that. But your job wasn't that, Jimmy. Neither one of you. Your job wasn't that, Colbert. That wasn't your job. Tom, your thoughts on this whole thing with Jimmy Kimmel?

• 1:30:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Jimmy, you bought into it. You made it your own, but you got used, buddy. You are responsible for who you are and who you became and what you did. But you got used because the whole ABC network was 100% behind Kamala, 100% anti-Trump in 2016. And you bought into it and you guided that. If you had held a little bit of your independence, buddy, you know, you could have been a different guy. But look at all of them that became bitter. Kimmel, so bitter. Colbert became so bitter. And he had the dancing COVID things. My gosh, you were a propaganda machine for the government that's now been widely discredited. You know, I just think it's so ironic, and Rosie O'Donnell too, this past weekend. It's

• 1:31:41Tom Ellsworth?

  so ironic that everybody now is saying, wow, it's not the party, it's the loud voices that scare people. You were one of the loud voices. What are you talking about? You were a loud voice that was on a prime time, sorry, prime time, a prime network in that late night zone where people were watching. Not very many now, but at the time there was initially. And now you're like out there saying these things.

• 1:32:07Adam Sosnick?

  Dude, you did it to yourself. You didn't have enough spine. At a point where you had audience, you could have had a little bit of spine, but you went with it, you made it your own, you became bitter like Colbert, and now you sit and you say, oh, you know, it's allowed voices. You were one dude, it's your fault.

• 1:32:22Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, him and Sarah Silverman apparently used to date.

• 1:32:24Adam Sosnick?

  They dated, yeah.

• 1:32:25Tom Ellsworth?

  For like seven years. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:32:27Adam Sosnick?

  Well, it's almost like people forgot what the hell their job was. A journalist's job was to report the news. They turned into an activist. An actor's job was to do movies and do shows. They turned into activists. Entertainers, make us laugh. Comedians, entertain us, make us laugh. Activists. Musicians, play music, the thing we enjoy, activists. It's almost like all these people forgot what the purpose of their job was, and they became political lecturers. And half the country was like, dude, I'm done with you. Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, Howard Stern. And what happens is, we're gonna see one by one, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Stephen Colbert gets canceled, Howard Stern's gonna

• 1:33:07Adam Sosnick?

  be off the air. Jimmy Kimmel, you're next, buddy. And we'll see who the next man up. This, this, this country is coming back to normalcy.

• 1:33:15Speaker 11

  And, I mean, Adam, great points. And Tom, and I'm gonna piggyback. And I think these guys, especially somebody like him, they sold their soul. Like Jimmy, honestly, Kimmel used to be on the opposite. He was on the man show. Disgusting, perverted, you know, that whole, you know, you wanna talk about MAGA? That, in their sense, you were that guy.

• 1:33:36Adam Sosnick?

  That was the good stuff back in the day.

• 1:33:37Speaker 11

  Perverted. By the way, racial comedy.

• 1:33:39Adam Sosnick?

  Blackface, come on, let's bring that back, Jimmy.

• 1:33:41Speaker 11

  But listen, when you sell your soul, and you're a shill for the other side, you can get away with everything and anything. Notice, if it was anybody else from the other side, all that stuff would have surfaced. He made fun of Oprah. He literally was black body, the hell with just face, when he did, was it Karl Malone? He did Karl Malone, right? Or was it Shaq? It was Karl Malone.

• 1:34:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, no, it's Karl Malone.

• 1:34:01Speaker 11

  And that's the thing, and you made a great.

• 1:34:02Adam Sosnick?

  One of the greatest rebounders of all time.

• 1:34:03Speaker 11

  And then on top of that, I mean, he works for ABC. Who do you think runs ABC? Those are those people that were pushing that, that nonsense. And listen, he has to do it, guys. You sign the contract, you sell your soul, he has to. Remember what he said? Said about people with not taking the vaccine. He's like, if you go to the hospital, it's not next, next, but good, good, like die, Wheezy. He basically said to die.

• 1:34:24Adam Sosnick?

  Let me have a 30 seconds with Vinnie real quick.

• 1:34:26Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 1:34:27Adam Sosnick?

  When they sell their soul.

• 1:34:29Speaker 11

  Yeah.

• 1:34:29Adam Sosnick?

  What do they get in return?

• 1:34:30Speaker 11

  Not a damn thing.

• 1:34:31Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean?

• 1:34:32Speaker 11

  They get fame. He gets fame and money. He gets fame and money.

• 1:34:35Adam Sosnick?

  Money?

• 1:34:35Speaker 11

  Yeah, but he's never gonna get that back. You're done.

• 1:34:37Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna tell you a quick story.

• 1:34:38Speaker 11

  For now.

• 1:34:39Adam Sosnick?

  We were in LA.

• 1:34:40Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 1:34:41Adam Sosnick?

  The last night there, I snuck off like an outdoor cat and went to a little house party. I will not say the name of the, of the influencer was house it was, because he was an awesome guy. And I don't want to put him out there, but the house was incredible. I walk in, hey, how you doing? You know, there's 20, 25 people there. It's not a big thing.

• 1:35:00Speaker 11

  Goats.

• 1:35:00Adam Sosnick?

  And our, our old friend there, the boxer, I won't say his name was there. I walk in and greeted very nicely, hey, how you doing? Blah, blah, blah, blah. I walk in and it's the exact opposite type of conversation that I was expecting. The, the argument was amongst people, black, white, that, that, who should be able to use the N word?

• 1:35:19Speaker 11

  God.

• 1:35:20Adam Sosnick?

  They go, hey, we got a famous podcaster here. Walk in, what do you think? I'm like, I ain't getting involved in this conversation. The owner of the house is sitting there and I said to him almost jokingly like, you might want to leave for this conversation. You don't want to get canceled. He goes, you know what? I'm out. Goes upstairs. He goes, I got way too many brand deals on the table. I got way too much going on to get caught up in this nonsense. What's my point? He just left the room. He didn't have to say anything. But a lot of times people sell their soul for money, for fame, for this, for that. It's a wild world out there and people like Jimmy Kimmel.

• 1:35:56Speaker 11

  No.

• 1:35:57Adam Sosnick?

  Basically, they do not want to lose their money.

• 1:36:00Speaker 11

  Was there no adrenochrome? Does anybody have adrenochrome?

• 1:36:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I just wanted to tell us that he partied in LA and he knows people.

• 1:36:06Speaker 11

  I'm doing shots of adrenochrome.

• 1:36:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me get to the next story here. Let me get to the next story here. I'm gonna get to the next story here. JD Vance wants answers over Epstein files. Rob, if you have that clip. So JD Vance did an interview this past weekend with Maria Bartiromo. And when she was asked about Epstein, this is what he had to say.

• 1:36:28Speaker 29

  said very clearly, because we've had other meetings about that, is that he wants us to be fully transparent and he wants the credible information out there. So we're working to compile the thousands and thousands of documents that are out.

• 1:36:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty seconds before this, she asked, did you guys have a meeting just about Epstein just yesterday at the White House or something? We did have a meeting, but it wasn't about Epstein. And if we did have a meeting, and if we had, well, we had a meeting in the past, so she was trying to push him because there's rumors that there was a meeting about Epstein. This is literally 30 seconds after that. Go ahead.

• 1:36:58Speaker 29

  ... for full transparency. But I have to say, Maria, I laugh at the Democrats, who are now all of a sudden so interested in the Epstein files. For four years, Joe Biden and the Democrats did absolutely nothing about this story. We know that Jeffrey Epstein had a lot of connections with left-wing politicians and left-wing billionaires. And now President Trump has demanded full transparency from this. And yet somehow the Democrats are attacking him and not the Biden administration, which did nothing for four years.

• 1:37:27Speaker 30

  Was it the right move for Comer to send subpoenas to the Clintons?

• 1:37:31Speaker 29

  It absolutely was. And it drives home how, while the Democrats have tried to make this Epstein thing about anything but the fact that Democrat billionaires and Democrat political leaders went to Epstein Island all the time, who knows what they did, but it's totally reasonable to ask these questions. What you saw in the House's subpoena is they are trying to investigate all of the things related to this particular case. I know a lot of Americans want answers. I certainly want answers.

• 1:37:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I just sent you another clip. By the way, while this is happening, Texas prison camp where J. L. Maxwell has moved, steps up security. There's a bunch of different stories that are coming up here, right? But there's Michael Cohen. We showed one about three, four weeks ago, if you remember that, when I showed this here. This is a very different way he takes it here. And watch what he has to say. He can totally double down and trash Trump, but he doesn't. Why not? Play the clip.

• 1:38:22Speaker 31

  Don't believe that Donald Trump was on Epstein's island. Why? He said it more than five, six times. And he says it very openly. Now, Donald Trump says many things openly. Yeah, I was gonna say. But this is different. I know. He doesn't always put with the truth. That's true. But I know Trump. And I know that he's saying it for a purpose. Now, is he in the file? Absolutely. Why? He's in the Black Book. He took free flights with Epstein down to Palm Beach. If he turns around and says that he was never on the island, rest assured, he's gonna use that as the basis for why this whole thing again is a witch hunt against him. He'll take the grain of salt and he'll make it into the entire, into the entire, you know.

• 1:39:06Speaker 31

  Right, absolve himself.

• 1:39:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, thoughts?

• 1:39:09Speaker 11

  Listen, unless something really major happens, this is gonna go down for Trump's second term as the biggest scandal. This, this entire situation, I get what J.D. Vance has to do, Pat, and say, you know, the, the, the talking point is blame the Dems, blame the Dems, but the Dems weren't the one promising that all this stuff was gonna get released, okay? He didn't have people like Bongino and Cash Patel and everybody promising out the wazoo that this was gonna get released, and now the complete BS and lies. And just like, just FYI, Ghislaine Maxwell, who's convicted, convicted of child sex trafficking, okay, on, on top of conspiring to recruit and groom underage girls and all that stuff, okay?

• 1:39:50Speaker 11

  She sat down with, for nine hours with Todd Blanch, okay? You guys know who Todd Blanch is?

• 1:39:56Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 1:39:57Speaker 11

  He's the Deputy Attorney General now. Guess who he used to be? Donald Trump's personal lawyer. So, okay, so you sent Donald Trump's old lawyer to go sit down with her, no cameras, no lie detector, no, just a closed-door conversation, and we're supposed to believe that she just said Donald Trump wasn't on there? Okay? Like, that, does that, is anybody even gonna take that as, as truth? It's just, all this keeps, I, I don't even know what to think anymore, okay? For him, guess what? Okay, Trump wasn't at Epstein Island. I don't, I don't think he was on the island, but there was many other instances where you could be hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein and something crazy could have happened. The guy lived in New York. You live in New York, okay?

• 1:40:39Speaker 11

  God forbid, Trump was somewhere and hanging out, all these, what were all the teen model US, what was that, what was the thing that he bought?

• 1:40:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Miss America.

• 1:40:48Speaker 11

  Miss America. Who knows who's around, who's young, and then they record you? I don't, did he ever hang out at Epstein's house? Or was he at a party where Epstein and they're, and maybe they recorded something?

• 1:40:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're fully, you're fully at the place where you're speculating that... Trump might be tied to it. You're not saying, well, Michael Cohen saying that this is another thing that they're using against him as the next witch hunt that they're trying to go after him. You don't believe that. You believe there's some credibility to the story?

• 1:41:15Speaker 11

  Because of the way that Trump and the administration and everybody's acting right now, you're acting guilty. You know what I mean? You're acting guilty. All the footage of the thing that they released that has three minutes missing. It's like the biggest bot, they botched the whole thing up. Okay, Trump should have just came out initially and said, you know what? Ban Bongino and Casta Tell, they're all full of crap. That's what he should have said. Instead of saying, no, it's the Democrats, just like how they did with Russia collusion. It has no correlation to Russia collusion, okay? And the reason the Dems didn't release anything, PBD? Because Bill Clinton is one of the biggest ones. His name is plastered all over it. 26 times on the freaking Lolita Express. And even Kevin Spacey.

• 1:41:58Speaker 11

  Do you remember what Kevin Spacey said, Tom, when they were traveling to Africa or whatever? And he goes, they had young girls on the plane and he didn't want nothing to do with it. Obviously, it's Kevin Spacey. He admitted it. He goes, I didn't know who the Jeffrey Epstein was. But yeah, there was, there was young girls on there and FYI. And this is a fact. Fact check me, Rob. Bill Clinton, when he flew on Lolita Express, he didn't have Secret Service on there with him. What does that mean? You don't have Secret Service? Isn't that a breach of, of, of protocol, presidential protection? Tom, why wouldn't you want to have them on there? So maybe they could be witnesses later on? Could you fact check that, Rob? If, when he was flying, did he have Secret Service not be on the plane? This stinks to high heaven, okay? Uh, I, I just want the truth. We, by the way, we were promised JFK. What do we find out?

• 1:42:43Speaker 11

  CIA was involved, maybe Israel was involved. No clear evidence. What? What? Did you not, did you not read any of the, because JFK wanted to go check if they have nuclear weapons and?

• 1:42:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It was probably the Mossad.

• 1:42:55Speaker 11

  But Adam, I'm just saying, no, what I'm saying is, this is what was all that released. No, no definitive answers. We were promised MLK stuff, nothing. It's all smoke and mirrors and we never get the answer.

• 1:43:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Vincent, can I ask you a question, my emotional angry friend?

• 1:43:09Speaker 11

  I'm not angry, I'm not angry, I'm just spitting facts.

• 1:43:11Patrick Bet-David?

  You are angry, it says it on your shirt.

• 1:43:13Speaker 11

  But I'm not angry right now.

• 1:43:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna give you two options.

• 1:43:15Speaker 11

  I actually feel great.

• 1:43:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Option A, Donald Trump.

• 1:43:18Adam Sosnick?

  Figures out the world, solves all these wars, peace deals, economy tariffs. Everything goes according to plan, shuts down the border, immigration, everything. But you never figure out what happened with Epstein and on Epstein Island. Or the world falls apart, everything goes to shit, the tariffs don't work, there's wars. But you find out every single piece of information about Epstein and that black book. Which one do you pick?

• 1:43:45Speaker 11

  Very interesting.

• 1:43:46Adam Sosnick?

  Which one do you pick?

• 1:43:47Speaker 11

  Hold on, really, hold on really fast.

• 1:43:48Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no.

• 1:43:48Speaker 11

  Hold on really fast. Adam, Trump, tariffs, world, war, Israel, everything. And you find out he was with an underage girl. What do you, what do you, what do you think? What, hold on, hold on.

• 1:44:01Adam Sosnick?

  So, so you're asking, you're answering the question with a question.

• 1:44:04Speaker 11

  Yeah, because your question is if, if, if and what if. No, no. If you found out that there's footage of the President of the United States sleeping with an underage girl, how do you feel?

• 1:44:14Adam Sosnick?

  How does the rest of the world do?

• 1:44:15Speaker 11

  What do you mean how the rest of the world?

• 1:44:16Adam Sosnick?

  Does the rest of the world just be amazing?

• 1:44:17Speaker 11

  I'm saying, does he get accountability? Because it doesn't matter, Adam.

• 1:44:20Adam Sosnick?

  Let me answer the question. I would pick option A a million times out of a million. And let the, the, the theorists conspire of whatever they want. Whatever they want to figure on Epstein.

• 1:44:30Speaker 11

  It's a fact.

• 1:44:31Adam Sosnick?

  I want signal versus noise. You want the noise. And that's cool.

• 1:44:35Speaker 11

  That's, A, Adam, you absolutely just dodged the entire situation.

• 1:44:38Adam Sosnick?

  No, no.

• 1:44:39Speaker 11

  Adam, how many times do I have to say accountability in front of you?

• 1:44:42Adam Sosnick?

  So, I asked you the question, you dodged it and flipped it on me.

• 1:44:46Speaker 11

  You said a maybe.

• 1:44:47Adam Sosnick?

  Answer option A or B.

• 1:44:47Speaker 11

  You said a maybe? I don't want maybes.

• 1:44:49Adam Sosnick?

  Just option A or B.

• 1:44:50Speaker 11

  I don't, I don't.

• 1:44:51Adam Sosnick?

  Do you want the world to do incredible, but you don't find out about Epstein? Or you find out everything about Epstein, but the world falls apart? What do you pick?

• 1:44:58Speaker 11

  If, if finding out.

• 1:44:59Adam Sosnick?

  Just answer the question, dude.

• 1:45:01Speaker 11

  The world falls apart? I want, if B means, if this is where you fail to, to, it completely boggles your mind.

• 1:45:07Adam Sosnick?

  You could just say A or B, but you're keeping the talk.

• 1:45:09Speaker 11

  This will boggles your mind.

• 1:45:10Adam Sosnick?

  Keep talking.

• 1:45:10Speaker 11

  This will boggles your mind.

• 1:45:11Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead, boggle that mind, baby.

• 1:45:12Speaker 11

  Accountability, how many times do I have to say it? If you're, if you've done the, the deed, you have to pay the price. Plain and simple, I don't care. That, that, that's what you fail to understand.

• 1:45:23Adam Sosnick?

  You pick option B and you want to govern a city or in a world of ashes?

• 1:45:27Speaker 11

  Adam. If the city was built, if the city was built on pedophilia, let it burn.

• 1:45:33Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:45:33Speaker 11

  I'm sorry, Adam. That's how you, you don't, you don't think the way that I do. I still love you.

• 1:45:37Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not advocating for pedophilia. I'm advocating for there's a million other things that are more important than Epstein. So, but this is your number one thing. I get it.

• 1:45:46Speaker 11

  I care about kids getting raped and murdered, Adam. That's my thing. Sorry. No, I didn't, because that's what we're talking about.

• 1:45:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Over here if you need me, Pat. Tom.

• 1:45:54Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, by the way, what would you pick? Option A or B? Tom, could you help us out? Option A or B?

• 1:45:58Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm simply showing what Michael Cohen said. And Michael Cohen is the number one guy that would want to go after him.

• 1:46:07Adam Sosnick?

  Number one Trump hater in the world. Says Trump is innocent.

• 1:46:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And why is he not doubling down? And he spent more hours with him than any of the guys that are with him on the administration right now, except for a couple of people. Okay? And he, he knows all his dirt. It's your lawyer for 20 plus years that flipped on you. You don't think he talked to the lawyer about, hey, how do we handle Epstein? How do we do this? How do we do that? Why is he not saying anything? I don't know. Uh, it, it's, it's, it's in the weirdest way, Cohen has a lot of credibility. Uh, but we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen there with this, uh, story. All right. What else do we have before we wrap up? Is there any other story, Rob, that we haven't, uh, covered?

• 1:46:47Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, do you want to discuss the WNBA or no?

• 1:46:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see if I got another story before I go to the WNBA. Tom, is there any other stories you guys got before we go to that?

• 1:46:54Tom Ellsworth?

  About the Israel Al Jazeera?

• 1:46:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let's go to that. Okay, let's go to that.

• 1:46:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's end on a light.

• 1:47:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna, by the way, I'm gonna end on a light video I saw last night that made me laugh that I'm gonna share with you guys. What a funny prank. I think the rest of you guys are gonna enjoy as well. Al Jazeera journalist Anas Al Sharif killed in Israel attack in Gaza City. And so a 28 year old, well-known Arabic, uh, uh, Arabic correspondent, who reported extensively from northern Gaza was killed in what appears to be a targeted Israel attack on a tent for journalists outside the main gate, uh, um, of Al Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, as confirmed by the hospital director, Al Jazeera. Media Network denounced the attack, stating it was yet another blatant and premeditated attack on press freedom amid the catastrophic consequences of the ongoing Israel assault on Gaza, which has seen

• 1:47:45Patrick Bet-David?

  the relentless slaughter of civilians. Forced starvation and the obliteration of entire communities. The Israel military admitted targeting Al Sharif, claiming in a statement he served as the head of a terrorist cell in the Hamas terrorist organization and was responsible for advancing rocket attacks against Israel civilians and IDF troops. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 1:48:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's a lot of sources that came out overnight. IDF made a post about it on X. You would expect people are gonna say, oh, of course the IDF says that he was there. You know, that's their propaganda. But there are other sources that are in here too, that maybe they're just repeating the IDF. But there's information and people appear to be publishing receipts here of, you know, databases and things where he had been identified. And by the way, regardless of how you feel about this and Journalist in War, which is a different topic, on this particular one, they're pointing out that, you know, in the dirty trick department, Hamas has got quite the resume.

• 1:48:50Tom Ellsworth?

  And hiding behind civilians, hiding in hospitals, under hospitals, posing as doctors and posing as media, Hamas does this. And so would it surprise me that this journalist was actually a leader of a minor cell? And when his cover got blown, then people are saying, oh, it's a smear campaign by Israelis. It's a smear campaign. He really was this. Well, maybe his cover got blown and he got outed. And so what I mean, outed as a member of Hamas.

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• 1:50:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, is that the, what's that picture, Rob?

• 1:50:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, here's what I was gonna say.

• 1:50:30Speaker 11

  Maybe, where is he?

• 1:50:32Adam Sosnick?

  He's the guy in the middle.

• 1:50:33Speaker 11

  That doesn't look anything like him. That's the guy? I don't think that, that, that doesn't look like the guy to me. The guy that just, we just saw that Rob showed? That doesn't look like that guy.

• 1:50:43Tom Ellsworth?

  No, actually it does. Couple of years different, that's him, but a couple of pounds different.

• 1:50:46Adam Sosnick?

  Well, regardless, here's what's happening right now. I just went on Amazon and I just bought a nice little journalist press kit for $19.99. What I've realized is this, is I don't emotionally react to stories that come out, good, bad, or ugly, I wait for the facts to come out. Do I want to see actual journalists who are reporting actual, real news die? Hell, no. We report stories here, we know journalists. I do not want anybody dead, innocent journalists whatsoever. But what I've realized is that there's a lot of propaganda, and there's a lot of people who are embedded in society here, who are honoring the Hamas. This guy right here, after cover, honored to stand with our crowns.

• 1:51:31Adam Sosnick?

  So whether it was this journalist, or the journalist you're speaking about, or any other journalist, this is who they are. I remember a story of a journalist was found in Gaza, and they were like, oh my God, we captured this guy. They went and found his house. Three hostages were in his house. This was a journalist. So just because you're a journalist, doesn't mean you're immune from accountability.

• 1:51:54Tom Ellsworth?

  And they weren't, and they weren't being interviewed about the horrors of war.

• 1:51:57Speaker 11

  Rob, can you ask Grok if that's actually him? I'm just curious.

• 1:52:01Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, if it, whether it was him or whether it was his best friend, the reality is this.

• 1:52:05Speaker 11

  Oh, so just kill, kill him if that's his best friend?

• 1:52:07Adam Sosnick?

  Well, here's what I love about Israel at this point. They're not even denying it. They're like, no, we went after this guy. We believed that he was a terrorist, so we took him out.

• 1:52:17Adam Sosnick?

  That's clarity to me. I don't want to see innocent people die at all. Unfortunately, it's killer be killed in the Middle East, and some people just can't understand that. And the woke West and the woke right just don't understand these people are coming to kill you, and it's killer be killed. I'm sorry, that is what it is. Go for it, Vinny.

• 1:52:40Speaker 11

  Well, what's the thing that you said right before about the, they said that they did it because they were targeting him?

• 1:52:46Adam Sosnick?

  Or cosplaying as journalists?

• 1:52:47Speaker 11

  What I'm asking is, did they say that they were targeting him after the fact? Like, oh yeah, we were going after for this guy?

• 1:52:52Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know, you're the expert on this.

• 1:52:53Speaker 11

  Or was it an accident? No, I don't actually read the news. I don't sit in the car and watch the news on the way here. I actually stay up till 1 o'clock in the morning and I actually do my research, and I did a bunch of research. And I just found out that they, that they bombed the, the, good talking point, very good talking point.

• 1:53:07Adam Sosnick?

  What'd you find?

• 1:53:07Speaker 11

  I love the fact that when you're just asking questions, I'm either a Hamas supporter, or I'm gonna be anti-Semitic.

• 1:53:14Adam Sosnick?

  No, but go ahead, make your point.

• 1:53:15Speaker 11

  It's the neither. What I'm saying is, you can't even, they banned reporters from even being in Gaza. They banned international reporters. How are you supposed to know? Why are you banning them? If you have nothing to hide, let us see what the hell's going on.

• 1:53:30Adam Sosnick?

  Because these reporters work for a company called Al Jazeera. Where's Al Jazeera based out of?

• 1:53:33Speaker 11

  But Adam, bomb every, you don't just bomb a tent with people next to a hospital and then just go, yeah, he worked for Hamas. And I'm not saying, listen, I don't know the facts, Adam, but what I'm saying is, if you're not letting,

• 1:53:44Adam Sosnick?

  That's where the clip should end, right there.

• 1:53:45Speaker 11

  Who killed, who has killed the most? Who has killed the most reporters, Pat? Did we do the numbers?

• 1:53:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what is that?

• 1:53:51Adam Sosnick?

  Syria did.

• 1:53:52Speaker 11

  Yeah, this is, I'm, do we have that?

• 1:53:53Tom Ellsworth?

  We can just, you can search for it. There, there's a lot of people.

• 1:53:56Speaker 11

  Israel Defense Forces, Tom? That's like what I'm,

• 1:53:59Tom Ellsworth?

  There's others too. There's another, there's another media outlet that was Maya TV or everything, and it may be parroting the IDF thing, but there's people that are out there publishing. Receipts on this, that appear to be receipts. I don't know the validity of it, but you know what? There's a heck of a lot going on here. Look, is this the first? Just do this logically, Vinnie. Is this the first reporter to die in the armed engagement over there? To be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

• 1:54:27Speaker 11

  In the wrong place at the wrong time?

• 1:54:29Tom Ellsworth?

  No. So let's assume they're a reporter, not the first. Then why is there so much static on this one?

• 1:54:38Speaker 11

  What do you mean?

• 1:54:38Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I'm asking. Why is there so much, so much fuzz? Like somebody shook up a root beer and opened it?

• 1:54:45Speaker 11

  It only killed five reporters. It only killed five reporters reporting on what's happening on the ground.

• 1:54:51Tom Ellsworth?

  It kind of bothers me that there's so much buzz on this reporter.

• 1:54:57Speaker 11

  No, Tom, it shouldn't be. I don't think it's just about this reporter. I think it's just for the past two weeks, all I've been hearing and seeing is...

• 1:55:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you saying like this is a George Floyd thing they're capitalizing off of?

• 1:55:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, or something. And why is there so much buzz on this guy to say? It was so many sources. Unless the IDF is just doing the most amazing marketing between Saturday and Sunday, pushing out all these fake receipts and everybody else is pushing them pat? That seems weird to me. Why is it so important to say that this reporter was there?

• 1:55:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, do you, do you trust Muslims more than Israel? Do you trust the report coming out of Gaza, Palestine, more than reports coming from Israel? I don't think you believe anything Israel says.

• 1:55:45Speaker 11

  I'm not saying, I'm not saying I don't believe that. I don't believe, hold on. I don't believe anything unless I'm shown the evidence. Okay? And what I've been seeing...

• 1:55:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know about that. I think, I think there's also, like, I've never heard you make a pro-Israel argument, ever. I've never heard you make a pro-Israel argument. So to me, the reason why I'm going with this is the following. I don't know. So for me, if you came in, notice what I said when we were prepping. I said, is it true that Israel, the last two years, has killed the most journalists? I'm the one that asked that question this morning, pre-getting started. So it's not like I'm coming in on fire like, because this is what I saw. Let's look at it. I had Rob pull it up. Then Syria came up, but Syria was since 2011, but the last two years was Israel. US was on the list as third place. Top three countries were Syria, Israel, and us, right? Okay, great.

• 1:56:38Patrick Bet-David?

  But I think, I think the, the part that,

• 1:56:42Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, you, you lose is when it's, no matter what, it's all one side. We're at dinner, this guy's defending Nick Fuentes.

• 1:56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm like, what is Adam defending Nick Fuentes on? He's like, I got more respect for Nick Fuentes than anybody else that's saying stuff that they're saying about Israel. Right? You have to be very careful. More respect for Nick versus Tucker is, I think, what I said. Right, no, specific that community is, it was what? Fuentes, Candace, and Tucker. And Nick has been saying what he's been saying a lot longer than they have been saying it, right? Okay. And what was his premise on the respect? He says what he believes in. That's Adam's point, right? Yeah. I think the biggest thing here is, you know, it, it's almost become like, if a white man is killed by a black man, CNN won't report on it. But if, God forbid, Jussie Smollett, anything George, oh my God, boom, it goes on, right?

• 1:57:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to find a way to, because,

• 1:57:44Patrick Bet-David?

  if, if I, look what's going on right now in Europe. How bad do you think Europe's about to get? Europe is going to fall apart. And you know what's after Europe? We're after. Canada. No, they're gonna come here surrounding it, and they're gonna try to target here. What is Mamdani doing? What is another guy that, I think, when I was watching this video? This is UK right now. I don't even know if we want to play this clip. A lot of profanity, a lot of. It's just a lot of stuff like this that you can see. But to me, it's, you have to be very careful that you only follow accounts, like when I wake up in the morning, what account do I go and watch to see what they're saying? I go to CNN.

• 1:58:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Because I want to see what counter arguments are being made there. Blind spots. But if you wake up and you just go to a couple of things of guys you follow, because that's what you want to hear, because it validates what you believe in, you'll end up having a lot of blind spots. And I don't want to stop blind spots. And that includes myself. I have my own biases as well. So I'm not sitting here telling you I don't have any biases. But if I have to choose between the two, it's not even close to conversation of what's going to be happening. It's not even close. And even yesterday, Trump said that they're going to take over Gaza. I don't know if you saw that that happened yesterday. Trump just said, "Yeah, how are you going to take over Gaza? We're just going to take over Gaza. How are you going to do it? We're just going to take it over." How can you do that? Under what jurisdiction? Under the US jurisdiction? I don't know if you saw that or not.

• 1:59:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't even know what he's doing behind closed doors. We don't even know what things are taking place. But we have to be very careful that the only thing we ever, ever see... Is this the one rap? Yes, sir. Yeah, can you play this rap?

• 1:59:28Speaker 32

  They don't want to leave their land. Some people say this is ethnic cleansing. You won't be able to force them to leave their land. They stay in there.

• 1:59:35Speaker 04

  We're moving them to a beautiful location where they have new homes, where they can live safely, where they'll have doctors and medical and all of those things. And I think it's going to be great. Yeah, any questions?

• 1:59:48Tom Ellsworth?

  You said before that the US would buy Gaza, and today you just said, "We're not going to buy Gaza."

• 1:59:53Speaker 04

  We're not going to have to buy. We're going to have Gaza. We don't have to buy. There's nothing to buy.

• 2:00:00Speaker 04

  We will have Gaza.

• 2:00:01Tom Ellsworth?

  What is that?

• 2:00:01Speaker 04

  No reason to buy. There is nothing to buy. It's Gaza. It's a war-torn area. We're going to take it. We're going to hold it. We're going to cherish it.

• 2:00:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And Mr. Biden, take it under what? Under what's it?

• 2:00:13Adam Sosnick?

  Under one authority?

• 2:00:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Under the US.

• 2:00:16Adam Sosnick?

  So with so many opinions out there, I mean, if you asked me 10 years ago if I would just trust Trump's instincts, I would say, "How? No. At this point, if there's one person who has all the information, whose instincts that I trust, it's one person and it's Donald Trump." I'm sorry. I didn't feel that way before. I feel that way now. And that's on most issues, if not all. So, including the Gaza one.

• 2:00:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think you just, you know, it's very, very hard. Uh, like on my Instagram stories, I'm tagged. You know how you go to see what stories you're tagged on? Stories, videos, videos, videos, videos, videos, you don't even know what's going on over here, what they're doing. I'm like, yeah, you're gonna only send me one side. None of the videos are easy to watch. And then I get messages from Israel. You don't know what's going on over here and I got it yesterday, I won't give any names, but you, you, you know. These are people that are in Israel saying, you don't even know what they're doing to the Christians and to this and this. I'm also not fully there. But I have the ability to watch both sides and I understand why you're sending me the clips to say what, you know, Palestinians are doing to Christians and Jews, and I understand why you would send me the clips to say what

• 2:01:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Jews are doing to Gaza and Palestinians. You have to find a way to not be emotionally caught up because then you are a victim of propaganda and they got you. Hook, line, sinker, you're done. And all you see is that. And I'm seeing, believe it or not, more and more people now kinda stepping away and saying, oh shit, I got a little bit in too deep here. Let me step back a little bit and see what happened. Neither side is innocent, but this side is definitely not innocent with the history that they have. If they're so great, why isn't nobody else from the other side taking them? You keep coming back more this way. And I get that, uh, uh, uh, you know, the motive of the other side where they're at, what they're up to.

• 2:02:10Patrick Bet-David?

  But you have to be very, very careful that you only see and hear and read what you want to see and read that validates your point. Cause then you have so many blind spots. So many. And you can't be reasonable. Now you're just fighting to be right. Now you're just fighting to be right. One of the best things about this exercise of sitting with the guys last week, this whatever, not last week. Jubilee. Jubilee. You know what was great about it? To sit and talk to a bunch of 20 year olds, one guy was probably 45, 50 years, I don't know why he was there. But to sit and talk to all these other guys that are.

• 2:02:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Students, it's also to see, okay, that's an interesting argument. Let me go look into that. Like, I myself have things to go look into after the conversation with them. To say, why did they say this? What was this? Okay, got it, this one. Well, this guy had a good point here. One of the guys had a good point that I brought him back at the end to debate it. But I can't just go thinking, I'm gonna beat everybody in this. No. Because then you'll never learn. You'll only be one-sided. Can we finish with a laugh?

• 2:03:12Speaker 17

  Yeah.

• 2:03:13Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, Rob, can you play this clip here? So let me tell you guys what this clip is. This is a guy, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, if you got kids, this is not the part for them to hear, because there's some profanity. This guy decides to call his friends and tell them sweet dreams. And his friends are like, what?

• 2:03:29Speaker 17

  So good, dude.

• 2:03:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you seen this?

• 2:03:31Speaker 17

  Not at all.

• 2:03:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, so great. Have you seen this, Tom, or no?

• 2:03:34Speaker 17

  No.

• 2:03:34Patrick Bet-David?

  The fact that you haven't seen this is gonna make it even better. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:03:38Speaker 17

  Yo, what's good, bro? What you got going on?

• 2:03:39Speaker 02

  What was that?

• 2:03:40Speaker 17

  Nothing, I was just calling to tell you goodnight, bro. Sweet dreams.

• 2:03:47Speaker 17

  Hello?

• 2:03:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, what do you mean, goodnight?

• 2:03:52Speaker 17

  I'm about to lay down, bro. I'm about to get in the bed. I just wanted to call and tell you goodnight, bro. Sweet dreams. Nighty night, baby.

• 2:03:58Speaker 02

  Why the hell you calling? Why you telling me goodnight?

• 2:04:00Speaker 17

  I hope you sleep tight, bro.

• 2:04:03Speaker 02

  Nigga, what?

• 2:04:05Speaker 17

  What you mean? You want me to sleep nuts? All right, all right, bro. I'm gonna talk to you tomorrow, man. Sweet dreams.

• 2:04:12Speaker 02

  What are you, what are you having going? What? Sweet dreams, nigga? I'm a bitch. What? What's going on? Are you good?

• 2:04:18Speaker 17

  Are you good? Yeah, bro, I just, I can't, I can't wish that you sleep good tonight, bro?

• 2:04:24Speaker 02

  Nigga, why in the hell have you ever wished?

• 2:04:29Speaker 17

  All right, bro, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna sleep tight, so I'm gonna holler at you. All right, bro. Nighty night, player.

• 2:04:34Speaker 02

  Don't call my phone doing this.

• 2:04:37Speaker 02

  You know what? Where's the red button on this? Hold on.

• 2:04:41Speaker 17

  That is so funny.

• 2:04:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So then he calls another guy.

• 2:04:44Speaker 17

  Look at the dog.

• 2:04:45Patrick Bet-David?

  What a great prank. He calls this other thing.

• 2:04:48Speaker 00

  He said, what a red button on this.

• 2:04:50Speaker 17

  By the way, there's multiple of these that have gone viral like this.

• 2:04:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch it. One more. He said, I want to do one more. He's having so much fun with it.

• 2:04:56Speaker 17

  What's good, bro? What you got going on?

• 2:05:01Speaker 17

  Yeah, bro, I just wanted to call and tell you goodnight, bro. Sweet dreams.

• 2:05:09Speaker 17

  I'm about to lay it down, bro. I just want to call and tell you goodnight, bro. I hope you sleep tight tonight.

• 2:05:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love you too, my guy.

• 2:05:24Speaker 02

  It's been so many nights since I've seen you. You haven't called me to say goodnight, but tonight, the fucking night, you want to call me and say goodnight. What's happened? Are you alright?

• 2:05:32Speaker 17

  Yeah, bro. I just hope, you know, I hope you have sweet dreams tonight. I'm gonna have sweet dreams, so I hope you do too.

• 2:05:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You're gonna hang up, Rob. You're gonna hang up, Rob. It's just hilarious, man. These pranks that they pull, that guy had me going randomly. Anyway, guys, do me a favor, Rob. Can you run a quick poll? On Monday, Wednesday, Friday, or Tuesday, Thursday? Okay, we're going with this for a couple of weeks. See what happens between now and the vault. But which do you prefer? Monday, Wednesday, Friday model, or Tuesday, Thursday model? Because after today, we're not gonna do podcasts tomorrow like we usually do. We're going straight to Wednesday. And if we won't do Thursday, we'll go to Friday. But run the last poll. I'm curious, guys, if you can comment on it. And aside from that, gang, it's been great spending time with you guys. We will do this again on Wednesday.

• 2:06:23Patrick Bet-David?

  9 a.m. Add it to your calendar. We're trying to get started as close to 9 o'clock as possible. Today, we went 9:04, and hopefully we'll get Wednesday right off the bat at 9 o'clock sharp. So what are they saying? They are saying Monday, Wednesday, Friday still? Let's let this play out. I was gonna say in the 80s.

• 2:06:42Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, everybody, sweet dreams out there, guys. Sweet dreams. We love you. Goodnight, goodnight.

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